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Speaker 1: March Colts Corner with myself, Kevin Bowen, and Eddie Garrison,

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Speaker 1: and this is typically one of the quieter weeks I

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Speaker 1: think on the NFL calendar. You're like two weeks removed

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Speaker 1: from owners meetings, and I think so far, Eddie, it's

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Speaker 1: next week's podcast will certainly be recapping that. Just a

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Speaker 1: Colts start their offseason program. I believe it's April twentieth,

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Speaker 1: and then of course the Draft later that week, So

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Speaker 1: again April could have a little bit more of a

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Speaker 1: the Colts brass next week. Eddie, how you doing, man?

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Speaker 2: How's the bracket? How's it's well? I mean, I guess I've.

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Speaker 1: Got I think I have the whole Elite eight still intact.

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Speaker 1: John's in the final four. Really yeah, so that's kind

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Speaker 1: of my big one. I need what I have, Arizona

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Speaker 2: I had Arizona Houston duke in Michigan.

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Speaker 1: So neither of us got bit by Florida too badly.

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Speaker 3: I just felt like Houston playing at home in Texas

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Speaker 1: I'll never forget being on the way to a Coyotes

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Speaker 1: shows you how big of a loser I am. Today's pod,

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Speaker 1: let's focus on sauce gardener on that trade. At some

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Speaker 1: So I think we'll look at that Eddie, just kind

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we'll probably toss in just a couple of things

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Speaker 3: on the weekend, But the meat of the podcast will

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Speaker 1: have all those like kind of like cryptic, you know,

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Speaker 1: they're like I remember when they traded for Carson Wentz,

434
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Speaker 1: they like knocked on a door, acted like there was

435
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Speaker 1: a kid a gift knocking on his, you know, neighbor's door.

436
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Speaker 1: And it's like at Commanders, it's like, why can't they

437
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Speaker 1: just comment on it. It's kind off and again in

438
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Speaker 1: the NBA much worse, but it's all awkward. So yeah,

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Speaker 1: I got no issue.

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Speaker 2: And then these things.

441
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Speaker 3: Were proposed if I could talk by the Competition Committee.

442
00:23:12,280 --> 00:23:14,880
Speaker 3: Permit the kicking team to declare an on site kick

443
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Speaker 3: on any time during the game. Eliminate the kicking teams

444
00:23:18,240 --> 00:23:20,840
Speaker 3: incentive to intentionally kick the ball out of bounce when

445
00:23:20,920 --> 00:23:24,520
Speaker 3: kicking off from the fifty yard line. Modify the kicking

446
00:23:24,600 --> 00:23:28,600
Speaker 3: alignment requirements for the receiving team in the setup zone.

447
00:23:29,440 --> 00:23:33,920
Speaker 3: Allow league personnel to consult with on field officials when

448
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Speaker 3: considering disqualifications for both flagrant football acts and non football

449
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Speaker 3: acts without being called onto the field, and then for

450
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Speaker 3: twenty twenty six, only allow the NFL Officiating Department to

451
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Speaker 3: correct clear and obvious misses by on field officials that

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Speaker 3: impact the game in the event of a work stoppage

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Speaker 3: involving officials represented by the NFL Refereesia.

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Speaker 1: That's the scary one. Yes, that's the scary one. The

455
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Speaker 1: acknowledgment of what replacement refs could do and what you

456
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Speaker 1: imagine miss call with thirty seconds to go in the

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Speaker 1: game and on Monday League he's like, you know what,

458
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Speaker 1: cold Twin Browns lose. I just it's like wild to

459
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Speaker 1: imagine that plane out. So it's March twenty fifth. I

460
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Speaker 1: can't let my brain go there. But that's scary right now.

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Speaker 1: Mm to think.

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Speaker 3: About that poss I mean, that's got to be the

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Speaker 3: biggest topic of discussion now.

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Speaker 1: I would assume next week, Yeah, out there at owners meetings,

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Speaker 1: I would assume.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you ready for Twitter questions. Let's do it.

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Speaker 3: Just a couple to get to, starting with Jamie. Why

468
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Speaker 3: is no one talking about J T Twoey Molo Lale

469
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Speaker 3: stepping up to be the number two edge rusher. It

470
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Speaker 3: didn't play much because of lou Annimo's dislike or distrust

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Speaker 3: of young players. Ps. I'm hearing quite a bit of

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Speaker 3: Sam square Pie in Indye. Have you tried it?

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Speaker 1: Oh? Tell me more?

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Speaker 2: I wish I could tell.

475
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Speaker 1: Do you know anything?

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Speaker 2: No?

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Speaker 1: Now Square pizza is that Detroit style? Is that like

478
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Speaker 1: Jets pizza?

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Speaker 2: I think? I think so? Yeah, that sounds about right.

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Speaker 1: I'm a fan of Jets. Sam Square. I used to

481
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Speaker 1: live next to Sam, Silver Circle and Fountain Square. I

482
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Speaker 1: love that place and they actually had some good za.

483
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Speaker 1: I love the ambiance in there, Sam Square. It sounds

484
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Speaker 1: like a local near downtown establishment.

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Speaker 3: Here your thoughts on j T two him allow stepping

486
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Speaker 3: up to be the number two pass rush?

487
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Speaker 1: Uh?

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Speaker 2: Name me one?

489
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Speaker 1: Play j T two him? All while made last year?

490
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Speaker 2: Well, it goes back to what Jamie was pointing out.

491
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Speaker 3: It's just the distrust or disliking that Louis and Rimo

492
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Speaker 3: has of playing young players.

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Speaker 1: I just Jamie, I understand you. But like even when

494
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Speaker 1: he played, you know, he had the he had the

495
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Speaker 1: what like the first month of year is when he

496
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Speaker 1: had those like healthy inactives. Then after that he pretty

497
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Speaker 1: much dressed And it's so I thought he'd be ready

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Speaker 1: to contribute a little bit more than most rookie rushers.

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Speaker 1: So this is one where there are times, inevitably for

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Speaker 1: every NFL team, where you sit there in an offseason

501
00:26:14,720 --> 00:26:17,640
Speaker 1: and you're trying to project young player into expanded role.

502
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Speaker 1: You know, it's a part of roster building. Honestly, the

503
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Speaker 1: Colts are trying to do that right now at right

504
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Speaker 1: tackle with Jalen Travis. But like Jalen Travis showed you

505
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Speaker 1: more than j T. Tumalowow Like I wrote an article

506
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Speaker 1: for our website about Justin Waally this week dot com,

507
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Speaker 1: thank you want by the fan dot com. You could

508
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Speaker 1: make the case. I know this sounds crazy to some

509
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Speaker 1: who was the second best rookie last season for the Colts?

510
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Speaker 2: Oh Man, Tyler, Warren the best? Who was second?

511
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Speaker 3: M M.

512
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Speaker 2: No idea.

513
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Speaker 1: Six quarters of Riley Leonard?

514
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I wish I could give you an answer there.

515
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Speaker 1: Four games of Jalen Travis.

516
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's yeah, I mean not, I don't know, not to.

517
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Speaker 1: Him all awow like and you know and Wally again

518
00:27:08,240 --> 00:27:10,080
Speaker 1: he didn't play an NFL snaps, he can't say him.

519
00:27:11,520 --> 00:27:14,879
Speaker 1: But like Wally and Wooler were talked about second and

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Speaker 1: third on the list throughout the off season. Like if

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Speaker 1: you had to rank them going into the season, you

522
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Speaker 1: would have said, who has been talked about the most? Warren,

523
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Speaker 1: Wally Wohler. Yeah, that's what you Wow, but the three

524
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Speaker 1: ws w W look at this unbelievable. That's what you

525
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Speaker 1: would have said there. So again, Jamie, I like Jalen

526
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Speaker 1: trap is at right tackle. I can sit here and say, okay,

527
00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:40,760
Speaker 1: that makes some sense. I can't say that confidently about J. T.

528
00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:44,520
Speaker 1: Tumowow right now. Now, you know, we'll see. And I

529
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Speaker 1: don't think the Colts deep down believe that. Like I

530
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Speaker 1: don't think they're like, oh yeah, we really feel like

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Speaker 1: he'll be a starter in twenty twenty six. I mean

532
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Speaker 1: they want to try Hendrickson.

533
00:27:56,440 --> 00:27:59,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, so like that was not their thought there.

534
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Speaker 1: So again part of the rotation. Sure, you know, if

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Speaker 1: him and arden Key are your third and fourth rushers,

536
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Speaker 1: you know, is that the end of the world. No,

537
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Speaker 1: I don't think that is. But who's two? That's what

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Speaker 1: I question.

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Speaker 3: Same Square Pie is located off of East tenth Street, Kevin.

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Speaker 2: They have Detroit.

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Speaker 3: Style pizza near us near East Side. Yeah, Detroit style pizza,

542
00:28:21,520 --> 00:28:23,320
Speaker 3: Grandma style pizza.

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Speaker 1: Detroit style. Yeah, that's that. That's the Jets Square, right,

544
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Speaker 1: I'm all for it. I need to try it out.

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00:28:28,119 --> 00:28:29,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, they have the high planes.

546
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Speaker 3: Drifter just kissed my baby bitchin Camaro just kiss. Yeah,

547
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Speaker 3: they have some fun names here, drunk chick. Yeah, we

548
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Speaker 3: have to try this out. Thank you for Jamie, for

549
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Speaker 3: the question and for the recommendation. Uh Turp. While defensive

550
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Speaker 3: end is definitely a bigger need. Could you see a

551
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Speaker 3: likely world where Chris Ballard uses the second round pick

552
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Speaker 3: on Elijah Surat to replace Michael Pittman Junr.

553
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Speaker 1: Yes, seems a little too early, right, forty seven.

554
00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:04,400
Speaker 2: Overall fort or a wide receiver.

555
00:29:04,840 --> 00:29:09,160
Speaker 1: Serrat for sure, I can. I could probably say wide receiver.

556
00:29:09,920 --> 00:29:13,440
Speaker 1: Like we'll do our positional mock draft here coming up,

557
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Speaker 1: probably in the next couple of weeks atdie Well.

558
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Speaker 2: They're not gonna have pick forty seven.

559
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Speaker 1: Anyway, you can get a trade back.

560
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Speaker 2: I think Balert told us that pretty much.

561
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Speaker 1: Right, Let's say that they keep their picks. If I

562
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Speaker 1: positional needed the mock draft, which again we do every year,

563
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Speaker 1: right now, I would say this in order the biggest

564
00:29:30,880 --> 00:29:41,360
Speaker 1: needs edge rush, linebacker, wide out safety, That's probably the

565
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Speaker 1: order that I would go in. And and you know, again,

566
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Speaker 1: a lot of this comes down to drafted weighted value

567
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Speaker 1: of Okay, yeah, you've swung in mister routinely at edge rusher,

568
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Speaker 1: it's it's a more important position than a linebacker. Or

569
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Speaker 1: do you view linebacker and say we need the quarterback

570
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Speaker 1: of the defense that's worth forty seven over Jacob Rodriguez

571
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Speaker 1: is worth forty seven overall, Anthony Hill Junior is worth

572
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Speaker 1: forty seven overall. You know, that would be the question

573
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Speaker 1: that I would have. I just I don't think wide out.

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Speaker 1: I get why people have mentioned it. I understand there's

575
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Speaker 1: a void with Michael Pittman Jr. But to me, I

576
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Speaker 1: think the front seven has got a few more pressing issues.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I would agree. Final question is from Ryan KB.

578
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Speaker 3: Can you talk more about the draft process as far

579
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Speaker 3: as all the other people in the room. I know

580
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Speaker 3: Chris Ballard is the final decision, but all of the

581
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Speaker 3: scouts and analysts that help break things down alongside him

582
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Speaker 3: never really get talked about. Are those all Ballard's people?

583
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Speaker 3: Is there yearly turnover? How much blame would you put

584
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Speaker 3: on them for draft misses? The behind the scenes videos

585
00:30:53,480 --> 00:30:55,600
Speaker 3: released by the Colts always make it seem like a

586
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Speaker 3: group effort for these picks.

587
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Speaker 2: Is the whole group bad?

588
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Speaker 1: Yeah? That's a that's a good question, and Eddie I

589
00:31:06,280 --> 00:31:10,080
Speaker 1: would probably say this across all sports. I think this

590
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Speaker 1: might be one of the more like difficult things to answer,

591
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Speaker 1: particularly in the scouting world, like who really is making

592
00:31:16,560 --> 00:31:20,880
Speaker 1: these picks? Who really is vouching for these guys? Yeah,

593
00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:23,360
Speaker 1: you know, how do you put together a draft board?

594
00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:26,920
Speaker 1: You know, do you just blame everyone and upper management

595
00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:27,360
Speaker 1: for everything?

596
00:31:27,680 --> 00:31:28,200
Speaker 2: Is that? Is that?

597
00:31:28,240 --> 00:31:30,440
Speaker 1: What comes with the territory? You know, when you're at

598
00:31:30,440 --> 00:31:35,920
Speaker 1: that that level. You know, we call Kenny Moore a

599
00:31:35,960 --> 00:31:41,160
Speaker 1: great hit, right, a great find, and all accounts, Ballard

600
00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:44,480
Speaker 1: wasn't even really that end to Kenny Moore. And Kevin

601
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Speaker 1: Rodgers is one of the longtime pro scouts that you know, hey,

602
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Speaker 1: look at his wingspan. It makes up for a lack

603
00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:51,920
Speaker 1: of height. Blah blah blah. We're in a time right

604
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Speaker 1: now where we're overturning the roster. Let's take a chance.

605
00:31:55,080 --> 00:31:57,040
Speaker 1: But like nine years later we just kind of label

606
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Speaker 1: it a great find by Ballard. So it is difficult

607
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Speaker 1: obviously projecting these draft picks to the next level. There's fit,

608
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Speaker 1: there's the mental aspect of it. It's a crapshoot. You know,

609
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Speaker 1: you want to go back, like Ballard really wanted Alec Pierce.

610
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Speaker 1: I think Ballard thought highly of a, I forget who

611
00:32:18,800 --> 00:32:20,600
Speaker 1: was in that draft, like Drake Lundon. I think Ballard

612
00:32:20,680 --> 00:32:23,720
Speaker 1: viewed him higher than Drake London in that draft, and

613
00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:27,360
Speaker 1: Drake London went what top ten? Mm hmmm, Like so,

614
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Speaker 1: I mean that's a great hit and great fine and

615
00:32:29,680 --> 00:32:32,840
Speaker 1: great evaluation by Ballard. But again, are all those drafts

616
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Speaker 1: did you have the same conviction all that?

617
00:32:35,360 --> 00:32:37,360
Speaker 2: Got to remember uh, Jonathan Taylor too.

618
00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:40,560
Speaker 3: Back when that was going on in Jim Mercy was like,

619
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Speaker 3: you guys have been talking about this guy all the time, right,

620
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Speaker 3: trade back up and get him.

621
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Speaker 1: So I think it's difficult to like, Okay, how do

622
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Speaker 1: you give individual valuations for all of your scouts? You know,

623
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Speaker 1: they have kept the scouting department largely intact. I mean

624
00:32:57,400 --> 00:33:00,440
Speaker 1: there's been some turnover, but it's a pretty consistent group,

625
00:33:00,520 --> 00:33:03,160
Speaker 1: even some of them dating back late in Napoleon years.

626
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Speaker 1: And honestly, Ryan's question like, I feel this way across

627
00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:11,520
Speaker 1: all sports, Like, think about it from a coaching standpoint, Eddie,

628
00:33:11,600 --> 00:33:14,520
Speaker 1: name a team that just fired their coach. How about

629
00:33:14,600 --> 00:33:19,320
Speaker 1: let's let's live with North Carolina right now. So we're

630
00:33:19,360 --> 00:33:21,280
Speaker 1: all four of those assistants for Hubert Davis.

631
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Speaker 2: Bad coaches, not necessarily, how.

632
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Speaker 1: Do you evaluate them? I mean, you know, how do

633
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Speaker 1: you like if you are You're the ad at Kennessall State,

634
00:33:36,800 --> 00:33:39,760
Speaker 1: and all of a sudden these assistants are popping up like, Okay,

635
00:33:40,200 --> 00:33:42,760
Speaker 1: how do I know if you were successful or like

636
00:33:43,200 --> 00:33:46,520
Speaker 1: good at your job? And honestly, in a college athletics standpoint,

637
00:33:46,720 --> 00:33:48,720
Speaker 1: we're in an error right now where you can just

638
00:33:48,760 --> 00:33:51,920
Speaker 1: offer the easy excuse in the world, we don't have

639
00:33:52,040 --> 00:33:55,440
Speaker 1: enough money. M h You know it's gonna be very

640
00:33:55,680 --> 00:33:58,520
Speaker 1: how many head coaches are you going to see get

641
00:33:58,560 --> 00:34:00,240
Speaker 1: fired and be like, yeah, we had a lot of money,

642
00:34:00,280 --> 00:34:03,120
Speaker 1: we just didn't use it. Right, No one's gonna say that.

643
00:34:03,200 --> 00:34:06,000
Speaker 1: No McK cronin is asking for five million more after

644
00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:09,440
Speaker 1: their NCAA tournament loss. Yeah, So, like, I think it's

645
00:34:09,480 --> 00:34:11,960
Speaker 1: a I think one of the harder things in sports

646
00:34:12,760 --> 00:34:15,880
Speaker 1: comes from the aspect of what are you doing behind

647
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Speaker 1: the scenes, and how do we then project that if

648
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Speaker 1: we're hiring you mm hm oh, let's go get the

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Speaker 1: Kansas City GMS, let's go get the Belichick coaching tree. Well,

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Speaker 1: is that gonna be good or is it not gonna

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Speaker 1: be good?

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Speaker 2: Right?

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Speaker 1: Did Matt Painter need to leave Purdue and go be

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Speaker 1: the head coach Southern Illinois for a very brief period

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Speaker 1: of time in order for him to be as successful

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Speaker 1: as he's been at Purdue. Probably, like coaching waiting from

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Speaker 1: an assistant standpoint, there aren't a lot of great success stories.

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Speaker 1: Hubert Davis's honestly one of them that would would not

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Speaker 1: be that. So yeah, I just think Ryan's overall question

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Speaker 1: comes with a very difficult answer, like are these all

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Speaker 1: ballard people? I mean technically not, I mean some of

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Speaker 1: them are, but there definitely are scouts that were with

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Speaker 1: Grickson and again even dating back too Pollyan. But you know,

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Speaker 1: I you know, group effort with some of these picks.

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Speaker 1: Sure there is a general consensus I think on a

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Speaker 1: majority of how they set their draft board. Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: don't think ballads like Rogue and a lot of this.

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Speaker 1: But then also, you know, there's a coach fit aspect

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Speaker 1: to it, and you know when you change coaching staffs.

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Speaker 1: That's why I think it's so critical that your GM

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Speaker 1: and your head coach should be aligned because you know,

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Speaker 1: in terms of hey, how should we scout, what's our scheme?

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Speaker 1: Things like that, I think it's really important to make

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Speaker 1: sure everyone's on the same page.

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Speaker 2: There anything else to add from the pot today, keV.

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Speaker 1: I think that's good. We'll come back probably Wednesday next

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Speaker 1: week recap a little bit of owners meetings, and we'll

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Speaker 1: do that here. One on seventy five, the Fan has

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Speaker 1: got your latest. Thank you for listening to Colt's Corner

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Speaker 1: with Kevin Bone