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Speaker 1: watched Seinfeld? Okay, there is an episode of Seinfeld where

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Speaker 1: because there's plenty to talk about today on this trade

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Speaker 1: How many trade deadline shows have we now done? I

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Speaker 1: recall Eddie is staring off into space at something here.

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Speaker 1: I'm not sure what's going on.

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Speaker 2: to make you look better. Oh really, well, good luck

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Speaker 2: with that. Well you look like a ghost for a second.

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Speaker 1: Yesterday I was the ghost of my voice pasted right basically,

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Speaker 1: As of right now, there is no news there to

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Speaker 1: And I've thought a lot about this, And yes, I

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Speaker 1: And yes, he has several aspects of his game which

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Speaker 5: I'm doing great, so great to hear your voice.

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Speaker 6: And yeah, I think David Woods was. I don't know

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Speaker 1: always asked this question to people elsewhere and you thought

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Speaker 1: you were in the United States.

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Speaker 3: For those of US who have been in the US

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Speaker 3: and not been to Milan.

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Speaker 1: Would it be what like kind of like San Francisco

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Speaker 1: would be my guests, or you like the Wine country

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Speaker 1: a bay area? Is that right?

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Speaker 5: Well, it's really interesting you say that, because when we landed,

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Speaker 5: you know where, everyone said what it looks like?

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Speaker 6: Just yes, it is not what you.

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Speaker 3: Said Monsey, New Jersey really the Garden State, Eddie.

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Speaker 7: Okay, well when.

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Speaker 5: We landed, you know it just you're out at the airport,

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Speaker 5: so it's about forty minutes.

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Speaker 7: To get to them.

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Speaker 1: So everyone in Milan has a fake tan, is what

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Speaker 1: you're getting at?

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Speaker 7: Is that right?

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Speaker 1: A lot of suntan cities around there, No, did.

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Speaker 6: You a lot of a lot of grideating?

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Speaker 1: Were you tempted at all to bring a Bobby Plump

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Speaker 1: Myland Jersey just to see if anybody knew what it was?

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Speaker 1: Would that have wit in?

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Speaker 5: You know, it's probably not. But they are not even

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Speaker 5: thinking about the super Bowl.

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Speaker 6: You know, we're kind of saying, like, where are you

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Speaker 6: going to watch the super Bowl? Like we want to

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Speaker 6: participate in that here, and there's no awareness of the

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Speaker 6: super Bowl. So if they're not aware of the super Bowl,

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Speaker 6: I don't think they're aware of your assignment.

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Speaker 7: Who's your lower?

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Speaker 1: Your assignment, Amory Tarnan. Aside from bringing the Olympics home

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Speaker 1: to everybody that watches Channel thirteen, beginning with the opening

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Speaker 1: ceremonies tomorrow night, and then doing this for a number

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Speaker 1: of stations within your company corporately speaking, your other assignment

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Speaker 1: is to at some point host a HOO'SI yours viewing

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Speaker 1: party so that everybody can see the Milano Miracle as

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Speaker 1: it's known over there. Okay, there you go.

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Speaker 6: Are you giving me an assignment?

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Speaker 7: Now?

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Speaker 8: Do you think?

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Speaker 6: Do you think I'm adding to my.

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Speaker 7: Lists right now?

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Speaker 1: I'm pleasing. He managed to squeeze in ten minutes on

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Speaker 1: this Dog and Pony show. So yes, Now we'll let

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Speaker 1: you get to the actual real broadcasters that you deal

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Speaker 1: with from the regular But I am going to twist

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Speaker 1: your arm to come on one more time over the

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Speaker 1: course of the games, even though I know you will

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Speaker 1: be very busy. But I do appreciate it.

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Speaker 6: Oh no, I'm happy.

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Speaker 5: I'm happy to do it, and there are it is

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Speaker 5: fun to talk with Hoosiers who are here. There's a

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Speaker 5: contingent from vinc Doublea that's here looking at the connection

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Speaker 5: between collegiate sports.

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Speaker 6: And Olympic sports.

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Speaker 5: There are members of Lily here, the official team USA sponsor.

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Speaker 5: The president of Purdue is going.

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Speaker 6: To be here.

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Speaker 5: And then I've heard from many students that are here

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Speaker 5: having a semester in the lawn. So I'm going to

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Speaker 5: be incorporating all those and more that I've come across

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Speaker 5: as the coverage continues to because it's always fun to

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Speaker 5: see hoosiers here overseas as well.

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Speaker 1: From the New Jersey of the Mediterranean, that's an Marie

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Speaker 1: taarn and joining us on the Joba House Peel and

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Speaker 1: poor guest line Ambry. I appreciate it, certainly. Try to

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Speaker 1: get some rest if you can, but we look forward

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Speaker 1: to following the journey throughout the course of it. All right,

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Speaker 1: all right, Amory Turner joining us from WHR channel thirteen.

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Speaker 1: All right, when we come back back into the NBA

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Speaker 1: trade deadline, Tony East gonna join us next that, right, Eddie,

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Speaker 1: And there are two names, not one, but two that

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Speaker 1: we had an idea about that. It appears as though

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Speaker 1: Indiana is taking a long hard look towards adding to

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Speaker 1: their roster next year. But can they make it happen?

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Speaker 1: We'll get into that with Tony next. All right, here

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Speaker 1: we go. The clock is counting two hours, twenty five minutes,

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Speaker 1: thirty five seconds before the trade deadline for the NBA,

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Speaker 1: and of course the Pacers are I'm not going to

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Speaker 1: say they're on the clock by any stretch, but we

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Speaker 1: have anticipated that this would be the avenue they would

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Speaker 1: go since the departure of Miles Turner to find the

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Speaker 1: big man that would be Turner's replacement. Now, the question

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Speaker 1: is does that come now or does that come perhaps

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Speaker 1: in the off season via a free agency.

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Speaker 3: Or a sign in trade. Been mathering.

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Speaker 1: The name most commonly linked joining us now Jaba House,

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Speaker 1: Peel and Port guest line. A guy that's going nowhere, Well,

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Speaker 1: that came out the wrong way. Tony Easton life is

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Speaker 1: going lots of places, but he's not moving anywhere soon.

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Speaker 1: You get what I'm saying there.

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Speaker 8: Right, Tony, I'm actually driving right now, So I'm literally moving.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So and you're driving where to from where to where?

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Speaker 1: You can just you don't have to be specifically, but

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Speaker 1: what side of town?

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Speaker 8: How specific do you want me to be? Because I

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Speaker 8: am very peculiar on my trade deadline day travels.

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Speaker 3: I need a street name, so that we can get

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Speaker 3: a traffic report.

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Speaker 8: Oh, Meridian Downtown.

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Speaker 1: Oh well you can if you hook a right here

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Speaker 1: on tenth Street and wave, I'll see you. It'd be fun.

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Speaker 8: So I'm always a paranoid that I'll be driving when

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Speaker 8: the trade happens. So I scared sedule. Three different coffee

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Speaker 8: shops ten minute increment drives from my house on this day.

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Speaker 1: Okay, well, hopefully one of them's job house buddy. Okay,

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Speaker 1: Tony East joining us, let's begin with this. Okay, So

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Speaker 1: there is movement for you today. Do you believe that

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Speaker 1: that makes you the same as an Indiana pacer player

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Speaker 1: or is every pacer player going to be stationary?

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Speaker 8: Yeah? I think the most likely thing they do is

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Speaker 8: use their open roster spot to snag something, right, you know,

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Speaker 8: for example, Jose Alvarado and two second round picks just

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Speaker 8: scot Exchange. Like the pacers have a little bit a

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Speaker 8: financial flexibility could allow them to do something of that nature. Right,

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Speaker 8: They've done that in many past seasons with this front office.

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Speaker 8: And they didn't keep Tony Bradley when his ten day

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Speaker 8: finished up last week, so certainly room for them to

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Speaker 8: just snag some assets in that way if they wanted

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Speaker 8: to do that, still a couple teams with financial considerations

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Speaker 8: or barriers to get under, but that wouldn't require them

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Speaker 8: moving and of their own players. So obviously, if they

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Speaker 8: get their center of the future right now, you know,

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Speaker 8: some combination of Matherin, Walker, Isaiah Jackson, probably Ben Shephard

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Speaker 8: would be in that trade, and some of those guys

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Speaker 8: could be on the move independently anyway. But you know,

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Speaker 8: I think the most likely thing they do would actually

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Speaker 8: be a small thing that doesn't move anybody, even though

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Speaker 8: all those players that could be moved for logical reasons

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Speaker 8: would make sense if they especially if they get their

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Speaker 8: guy right now.

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Speaker 1: Okay, sometimes this happens Tony where a guy's name gets

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Speaker 1: mentioned and the fan base or the media, whatever it

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Speaker 1: may be, becomes almost obsessed with the fact that, like,

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Speaker 1: that's the guy. They got to get that guy. It's

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Speaker 1: got to be that guy or no one, you know.

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Speaker 1: And zubots In for the Clippers has been that name

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Speaker 1: for a while now. Visa zubots who's a fabulous player,

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Speaker 1: I believe, you know, basically a ten year veteran. The

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Speaker 1: other name that has come up a lot lately is

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Speaker 1: Daniel Gafford. Now Jake Fisher has reported both of those

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Speaker 1: are Indiana targets. I don't think that that's too out

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Speaker 1: of bounds to say that, but draft capital, that term

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Speaker 1: that Jane v Love's draft capital is room to be

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Speaker 1: also what these.

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Speaker 3: Teams are looking for.

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Speaker 1: Where does Indiana stand in terms of what they could

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Speaker 1: make available or what they would be willing to make

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Speaker 1: available if those are their targets.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, they have that drastically different values both in that

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Speaker 8: Zubox is much better than Gafford and his contract is

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Speaker 8: very good. Gafford's bumps up next year, and Gafford has

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Speaker 8: all season this year. He hurt his ankle in training

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Speaker 8: camp and it has just never gone away. He just

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Speaker 8: rolled it again in their most recent game. And you

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Speaker 8: always wonder with something so nagging like that, what kind

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Speaker 8: of impacts it could have, even just beyond this one season.

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Speaker 8: I'm not suggesting that it's just possible that that's a

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Speaker 8: consideration for a Gafford trade. So at Gafferd's good. He

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Speaker 8: was the starting center for the Mavericks team that made

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Speaker 8: the finals two years ago, right, Like, that's obviously not nothing.

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Speaker 8: He has skills that fit the way the Pacers play.

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Speaker 8: But if you know the Mavericks are pivoting to a

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Speaker 8: new era, are they really desperate for a first rounder?

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Speaker 8: Am I willing to have a first rounder? If I'm

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Speaker 8: the Pacers? I don't know. This contract is fine, but

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Speaker 8: all the injury stuff is certainly part of that as well.

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Speaker 8: Whereas Zubach is very good and his contract is spectacular

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Speaker 8: given his skill ability that I would think that he'd

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Speaker 8: be worth multiple several first round picks. The Pacers have

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Speaker 8: all of their firsts now obviously this year's pick, you'd

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Speaker 8: wonder if that would even be something they'd consider our

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Speaker 8: inbounds at all. Right, I'm unprotected, certainly not for somebody

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Speaker 8: like Zubach, But you know, if they could top six,

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Speaker 8: top a protect it, would they consider it? Would the

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Speaker 8: Clippers even want to do that? You know, those are

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Speaker 8: the kind of conversations they'd have to have about those guys,

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Speaker 8: because a lot of the players that would be involved

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Speaker 8: in the salary matching for either one would be largely

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Speaker 8: pretty similar, but the pick compensation would certainly, or the

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Speaker 8: draft capitalties the right word would certainly be different. And

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Speaker 8: that's probably something they had to debate all day. Is

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Speaker 8: what's more worth it to them is they figure out

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Speaker 8: who their center is going to be or if it's

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Speaker 8: worth doing now if these prices could change in the summer.

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Speaker 1: Do you believe that Ben Matherin would be a subject

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Speaker 1: of trade discussion if he was not on an expiring contract?

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Speaker 1: What percent of the assumption Matherin as a piece they

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Speaker 1: would dangle is because of the contract, and what percent

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Speaker 1: is because his valued skill set may be a skill

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Speaker 1: set that isn't totally what Indiana needs.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, it's it's a bit of both, certainly. But I

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Speaker 8: think the contract is is a massive, massive part of it,

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Speaker 8: both because it's expiring, but also because he's due to

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Speaker 8: make a lot more because he's on a rookie contract,

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Speaker 8: right Whereas you know, for example, when Buddy Yield was

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Speaker 8: contract was expiring, they did move him in the end

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Speaker 8: because of a you know, he kind of wanted to

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Speaker 8: be moved, but he wasn't going to make more money

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Speaker 8: on his next contract. It's not like their financial situation

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Speaker 8: would have been blown up if they paid Buddy Heield

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Speaker 8: that simimouth the next season, Matherin makes you know, a

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Speaker 8: little over nine million now, and you know, most of

639
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Speaker 8: a lot of talk to around the league, suspect that

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Speaker 8: his next deal would be load to mid twenty millions

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Speaker 8: next time. You add that to your books. And don't

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Speaker 8: get me wrong, like if he's worth that much money,

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Speaker 8: that he's worth that much money. It's not that it

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Speaker 8: would be a bad contract, but it does, you know,

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Speaker 8: to the whole system of the contract that you have

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Speaker 8: as a team, change things significantly when you add that

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Speaker 8: much money to one player, especially when you know Memar

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Speaker 8: just got to raise Nie Smith's about to you know,

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Speaker 8: in two years. A lot of other guys have had

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Speaker 8: their contracts go out for change recently. Right, eventually, you

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Speaker 8: can't afford everybody and their draft pick they're going to

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Speaker 8: get if it's in the top name, you're single digit number,

653
00:35:15,880 --> 00:35:19,279
Speaker 8: that is an relatively expensive player, not a lot, but

654
00:35:19,400 --> 00:35:21,759
Speaker 8: you know for a draft pick, they'll be a eight

655
00:35:21,800 --> 00:35:24,640
Speaker 8: to fifteen million dollar player. And then all of a sudden,

656
00:35:24,640 --> 00:35:26,840
Speaker 8: they're way over a lot of thresholds, tax afer in

657
00:35:26,920 --> 00:35:29,799
Speaker 8: whatever without adding anty center to their team. And so

658
00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:33,160
Speaker 8: I just mostly think that yes, they've they've always been

659
00:35:33,200 --> 00:35:35,880
Speaker 8: cognizant of expiring contracts in this sort of era of

660
00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:38,480
Speaker 8: the front office. I think that's smart to do, especially

661
00:35:38,520 --> 00:35:40,520
Speaker 8: in the season like this where they're not playing very

662
00:35:40,560 --> 00:35:42,960
Speaker 8: well and they're thirteen to thirty eight, but especially so

663
00:35:43,160 --> 00:35:46,239
Speaker 8: when they have to really make sure that basically after

664
00:35:46,280 --> 00:35:50,120
Speaker 8: the coming summer, their salary situation is set up, because

665
00:35:50,480 --> 00:35:53,040
Speaker 8: that's basically the team they'll have in the salary structure

666
00:35:53,040 --> 00:35:55,200
Speaker 8: they'll have for the next two or three years of

667
00:35:55,239 --> 00:35:57,359
Speaker 8: the Haliburt and Siakamara. If they have a contract that

668
00:35:57,680 --> 00:36:00,800
Speaker 8: doesn't fit or somebody's overpaid for their role, it hurts everything.

669
00:36:00,840 --> 00:36:04,080
Speaker 8: When as Rick Carli left to say, they're an ecosystem team,

670
00:36:04,160 --> 00:36:07,400
Speaker 8: so it is important that they consider his contract and

671
00:36:07,440 --> 00:36:09,319
Speaker 8: salary just as much as his fit on the court.

672
00:36:09,360 --> 00:36:11,520
Speaker 8: And he's obviously does things no one else can do,

673
00:36:11,640 --> 00:36:13,120
Speaker 8: but he you know, the fit questions have been a

674
00:36:13,120 --> 00:36:13,760
Speaker 8: thing for forever.

675
00:36:13,920 --> 00:36:16,280
Speaker 1: Tony East have locked on Pacers is the guest Java

676
00:36:16,280 --> 00:36:19,240
Speaker 1: House Peeling Port guest line. Tony, I've always been curious

677
00:36:19,360 --> 00:36:22,000
Speaker 1: of this and I wanted you to elaborate on this

678
00:36:22,080 --> 00:36:25,320
Speaker 1: for listeners. If Ben Matheren's contract is up at the

679
00:36:25,400 --> 00:36:26,640
Speaker 1: end of the year, he's at the end of a

680
00:36:26,719 --> 00:36:29,360
Speaker 1: rookie deal. He is going to be more expensive for

681
00:36:29,440 --> 00:36:31,520
Speaker 1: whoever is paying him next year, be the Indiana or

682
00:36:31,560 --> 00:36:35,279
Speaker 1: whoever it may be. Based on that, what would be

683
00:36:35,520 --> 00:36:40,120
Speaker 1: then the motivation for someone else to trade for him

684
00:36:40,600 --> 00:36:42,560
Speaker 1: if they're not certain that they're going to be able

685
00:36:42,600 --> 00:36:45,280
Speaker 1: to retain him beyond this rental.

686
00:36:46,120 --> 00:36:49,280
Speaker 8: Yeah, that is a complicated part of his trade package.

687
00:36:49,320 --> 00:36:51,960
Speaker 8: And you know, I've gone through the exercise several times

688
00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:54,880
Speaker 8: in the last couple of weeks of players who are

689
00:36:54,920 --> 00:36:57,040
Speaker 8: in his situation, So the last year of their rookie

690
00:36:57,080 --> 00:37:00,160
Speaker 8: contract to get traded mid season under the current at

691
00:37:00,239 --> 00:37:02,600
Speaker 8: CBA or the rough equivalent of that time frame, they

692
00:37:02,760 --> 00:37:06,120
Speaker 8: almost never and basically do never fetch a first round

693
00:37:06,160 --> 00:37:08,479
Speaker 8: pick and return because of what you just said, right,

694
00:37:08,560 --> 00:37:10,640
Speaker 8: they're about to get paid more, and there's a chance,

695
00:37:10,680 --> 00:37:13,480
Speaker 8: albeit relatively low because of a restricted free agency, that

696
00:37:13,520 --> 00:37:15,000
Speaker 8: they would not be on your team at all in

697
00:37:15,160 --> 00:37:18,360
Speaker 8: three months after the trade, and so that drastically impacts

698
00:37:18,360 --> 00:37:21,000
Speaker 8: what their value actually is, even if they are a

699
00:37:21,040 --> 00:37:24,560
Speaker 8: talented basketball player. And so, for example, let's Sam Matharin,

700
00:37:24,600 --> 00:37:26,680
Speaker 8: if you trade forms another team, you immediately know you're

701
00:37:26,719 --> 00:37:28,480
Speaker 8: going to have to pay him in the summer, and

702
00:37:28,520 --> 00:37:30,839
Speaker 8: that someone else could try to. Now, the difference with

703
00:37:30,920 --> 00:37:33,759
Speaker 8: this and other expirings is he'd be a restricted free

704
00:37:33,800 --> 00:37:36,160
Speaker 8: agent or almost almost certainly will be, which means the

705
00:37:36,200 --> 00:37:38,399
Speaker 8: team that trades for him would and this is something

706
00:37:38,440 --> 00:37:42,000
Speaker 8: that's the positive for his trade value acquire his restricted rights,

707
00:37:42,200 --> 00:37:44,080
Speaker 8: So if another team signs him, they could still match

708
00:37:44,120 --> 00:37:47,560
Speaker 8: the offer and keep him, so that you're pretty secure

709
00:37:47,600 --> 00:37:48,920
Speaker 8: you're going to be able to keep the player you

710
00:37:48,960 --> 00:37:51,200
Speaker 8: trade for because of that, But it's still a risk

711
00:37:51,280 --> 00:37:53,279
Speaker 8: and that you don't know what his next contract's going

712
00:37:53,360 --> 00:37:55,919
Speaker 8: to be or necessarily where it's going to come from,

713
00:37:55,920 --> 00:37:57,799
Speaker 8: and that always changes things, and that even changes things

714
00:37:57,840 --> 00:37:59,279
Speaker 8: for the Pacers. You know, they might have their own

715
00:37:59,280 --> 00:38:01,759
Speaker 8: internal idea of what they think matter is worth. All

716
00:38:01,800 --> 00:38:03,520
Speaker 8: it takes is one team to blow that up. So

717
00:38:04,440 --> 00:38:07,480
Speaker 8: it's just a complex situation, which is why he's been

718
00:38:07,840 --> 00:38:10,359
Speaker 8: such a prominent subject of all these things. And they

719
00:38:10,440 --> 00:38:12,560
Speaker 8: know his salary now and what that could get them

720
00:38:12,560 --> 00:38:13,920
Speaker 8: in trades, they don't know what it could be in

721
00:38:13,960 --> 00:38:16,400
Speaker 8: the summer, even if people want to shout about signing

722
00:38:16,400 --> 00:38:18,040
Speaker 8: trades all the time. So that's also another part of

723
00:38:18,080 --> 00:38:19,520
Speaker 8: this is it's a known commodity deal.

724
00:38:19,719 --> 00:38:22,640
Speaker 1: Have there been any moves to this point Tony East

725
00:38:22,840 --> 00:38:27,160
Speaker 1: that seemingly would have been one that Indiana could have

726
00:38:27,200 --> 00:38:30,480
Speaker 1: been a contender or a partner for that trade where

727
00:38:30,480 --> 00:38:33,160
Speaker 1: you said, Okay, well that guy's moved on elsewhere, so

728
00:38:33,200 --> 00:38:37,239
Speaker 1: Indiana's out of the running for that possibility of a

729
00:38:37,280 --> 00:38:40,239
Speaker 1: player that we're looking towards. Anything that has any implication

730
00:38:40,320 --> 00:38:42,319
Speaker 1: towards Indiana so far at all.

731
00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:45,160
Speaker 8: Yeah, I could drop a few. I suppose you know

732
00:38:45,200 --> 00:38:47,040
Speaker 8: a lot of the little salary things that have happened.

733
00:38:47,320 --> 00:38:49,239
Speaker 8: I always wondered if the Pacers would jump in on those.

734
00:38:49,239 --> 00:38:51,359
Speaker 8: I don't think anyone is dying for me to run

735
00:38:51,400 --> 00:38:54,280
Speaker 8: through the list of those, but you know, the value

736
00:38:54,320 --> 00:38:56,560
Speaker 8: for about the Pacers space blow the tax has been

737
00:38:56,600 --> 00:38:58,680
Speaker 8: set up like probably one second round pick that could

738
00:38:58,719 --> 00:39:02,520
Speaker 8: acquire to run out that space. Dario Sariz trade, uh oh,

739
00:39:02,640 --> 00:39:05,560
Speaker 8: Child Bogy trade. Nikolavutsevich could in theory be a free

740
00:39:05,560 --> 00:39:08,360
Speaker 8: agency target. He got moved from the Bulls to the Celtics.

741
00:39:08,360 --> 00:39:11,200
Speaker 8: As of now, that trade is not yet official. You know,

742
00:39:11,760 --> 00:39:13,719
Speaker 8: if he's going to stay with Boston. Is that one

743
00:39:13,760 --> 00:39:16,440
Speaker 8: that's now all the tables a free agency center option

744
00:39:17,040 --> 00:39:19,720
Speaker 8: for the Pacers. The one that I immediately went WHOA

745
00:39:19,800 --> 00:39:23,120
Speaker 8: was Jared McCain. He got traded from the seventy six

746
00:39:23,200 --> 00:39:25,640
Speaker 8: ers to the thunder for one first round pick and

747
00:39:25,719 --> 00:39:28,160
Speaker 8: three second rounders. He's young and a good shooter, and

748
00:39:28,200 --> 00:39:30,360
Speaker 8: he's on a cheapot contract. If the Pacers could have

749
00:39:30,440 --> 00:39:33,040
Speaker 8: met that value and you know, gotten him from Philly,

750
00:39:33,080 --> 00:39:35,080
Speaker 8: I would have certainly considered that as them. I don't

751
00:39:35,080 --> 00:39:38,080
Speaker 8: think that that's necessarily like the turs their plans or

752
00:39:38,160 --> 00:39:40,680
Speaker 8: changes things, but it's something that flashed on my radar

753
00:39:40,719 --> 00:39:43,279
Speaker 8: as oh, I wonder if they were considering her in

754
00:39:43,360 --> 00:39:45,759
Speaker 8: on that given you know that McCain was a tax

755
00:39:45,800 --> 00:39:48,960
Speaker 8: stump move among many things by the Sixers. But in

756
00:39:49,040 --> 00:39:52,000
Speaker 8: terms of like direct hit impacts of players they've been

757
00:39:52,000 --> 00:39:55,200
Speaker 8: connected to, I believe the only reported connection to the

758
00:39:55,200 --> 00:39:57,640
Speaker 8: Pacers player that's been traded or actually two now are

759
00:39:57,680 --> 00:40:00,040
Speaker 8: hose Alarado and Kean Ellis. And I don't think I

760
00:40:00,040 --> 00:40:02,279
Speaker 8: think they're like beating themselves up that they didn't get

761
00:40:02,320 --> 00:40:04,279
Speaker 8: a backup point guard right now. They could do that

762
00:40:04,360 --> 00:40:06,279
Speaker 8: at a different time, or a backup guard, whatever you

763
00:40:06,280 --> 00:40:08,239
Speaker 8: want to call those guys. So a lot of the

764
00:40:08,360 --> 00:40:12,080
Speaker 8: reported connections are still anchored to where they were, but

765
00:40:12,120 --> 00:40:13,839
Speaker 8: there have been some things that I've been curious about

766
00:40:13,840 --> 00:40:15,359
Speaker 8: either what it means for the Pacers or if they

767
00:40:15,360 --> 00:40:16,920
Speaker 8: could have done something similar to themselves.

768
00:40:17,040 --> 00:40:20,480
Speaker 2: What's more surprising, Yannis Onto Takupo doesn't seem like he's

769
00:40:20,480 --> 00:40:23,280
Speaker 2: getting traded or Job Morant.

770
00:40:25,120 --> 00:40:28,120
Speaker 8: Yanni's not getting traded is of zero shock to me.

771
00:40:29,320 --> 00:40:31,200
Speaker 8: I mean just I think if you're the Bucks, it's

772
00:40:31,200 --> 00:40:33,120
Speaker 8: smart to know what's available to you, but it makes

773
00:40:33,160 --> 00:40:34,880
Speaker 8: way more sense for them to do that in the summer,

774
00:40:34,920 --> 00:40:37,040
Speaker 8: if you're gonna do it at all. I think the

775
00:40:37,520 --> 00:40:39,440
Speaker 8: grizly at this point, what does John do for them?

776
00:40:39,480 --> 00:40:39,560
Speaker 1: Right?

777
00:40:39,600 --> 00:40:41,279
Speaker 8: They pull up their whole team. They clearly want to

778
00:40:41,320 --> 00:40:43,560
Speaker 8: be bad. They have a gazillion first round picks, a

779
00:40:43,640 --> 00:40:47,160
Speaker 8: nice young core with Cedric Coward and Zach Edy from Purdue.

780
00:40:47,640 --> 00:40:49,480
Speaker 8: Just get just hand him to someone else. If someone

781
00:40:49,560 --> 00:40:51,919
Speaker 8: gives you anything of note for John Morant, take it done,

782
00:40:51,960 --> 00:40:54,160
Speaker 8: call it a day. So I'm surprised he hasn't been

783
00:40:54,160 --> 00:40:57,080
Speaker 8: moved in much more surprised that he's still with Memphis.

784
00:40:57,160 --> 00:40:58,799
Speaker 8: But also I don't know how many teams that really

785
00:40:58,800 --> 00:41:00,759
Speaker 8: want them, so I'll be very curious for that one shakes.

786
00:41:00,480 --> 00:41:05,120
Speaker 1: Out all right, Tony. Lastly, it is twelve forty six

787
00:41:05,280 --> 00:41:09,799
Speaker 1: on this the NBA trade deadline. Do you believe that

788
00:41:09,880 --> 00:41:13,240
Speaker 1: we are entering the final two hours and fourteen minutes

789
00:41:14,000 --> 00:41:17,920
Speaker 1: of the tenure of Ben Mathern is a pacer, It's I.

790
00:41:17,920 --> 00:41:21,120
Speaker 8: Think it's close to right down the middle in terms

791
00:41:21,120 --> 00:41:24,120
Speaker 8: of the odds there. So for sake of making a prediction,

792
00:41:24,160 --> 00:41:25,120
Speaker 8: I'll say yes, but I.

793
00:41:25,040 --> 00:41:25,799
Speaker 7: Think it could.

794
00:41:25,840 --> 00:41:28,440
Speaker 3: It really could go either way, okay, and we shall see.

795
00:41:29,000 --> 00:41:32,160
Speaker 1: You know, I guess worst case Tony would be if

796
00:41:32,160 --> 00:41:34,720
Speaker 1: they don't move him, then you wait to see once

797
00:41:34,760 --> 00:41:36,760
Speaker 1: you sign him, if you can get a sign in trade,

798
00:41:36,800 --> 00:41:40,239
Speaker 1: et cetera, and go back to the drawing board at

799
00:41:40,280 --> 00:41:42,239
Speaker 1: the end of the season. It does not seem to

800
00:41:42,239 --> 00:41:45,279
Speaker 1: me to be Ben Matherin the kind of guy that

801
00:41:46,719 --> 00:41:48,759
Speaker 1: you know, Miles Turner. I think we know that the

802
00:41:48,840 --> 00:41:52,080
Speaker 1: constant trade stuff eventually took its toll on Miles Turner.

803
00:41:52,719 --> 00:41:54,279
Speaker 1: This is the first go round of this really for

804
00:41:54,320 --> 00:41:56,640
Speaker 1: Ben Matherin, and if it does not come to where

805
00:41:56,640 --> 00:41:59,560
Speaker 1: he has moved, we'll see where that impacts him. But

806
00:42:00,360 --> 00:42:03,839
Speaker 1: I don't think he's going to be a disruptor kind

807
00:42:03,840 --> 00:42:06,040
Speaker 1: of guy. But you know, I could be wrong. That

808
00:42:06,440 --> 00:42:07,319
Speaker 1: remains to be seen.

809
00:42:08,360 --> 00:42:09,920
Speaker 8: The tricky part of all that, this is all these

810
00:42:09,960 --> 00:42:12,320
Speaker 8: discussions about contract and fit and all this stuff is

811
00:42:12,400 --> 00:42:15,200
Speaker 8: just like Ben Matherin's good. Like if you don't find

812
00:42:15,200 --> 00:42:17,160
Speaker 8: the right trade and you have to resign him and

813
00:42:17,200 --> 00:42:20,400
Speaker 8: keep him in the summer, like that's the worst case scenario,

814
00:42:20,440 --> 00:42:22,800
Speaker 8: Like that's not even bad. Right, So there's no reason

815
00:42:22,800 --> 00:42:24,839
Speaker 8: for them to rush or do something stupid unless they

816
00:42:25,160 --> 00:42:27,640
Speaker 8: feel like they need to. So that's why it's close

817
00:42:27,680 --> 00:42:29,920
Speaker 8: to fifty to fifty to me. But they always have

818
00:42:30,000 --> 00:42:31,960
Speaker 8: been ahead of some of this expiring stuff, and their

819
00:42:31,960 --> 00:42:34,520
Speaker 8: financial situation certainly requires it, so we will see it.

820
00:42:34,520 --> 00:42:35,919
Speaker 8: But I agree with you that I don't think he'd

821
00:42:35,920 --> 00:42:37,359
Speaker 8: be a big shake up thing either way.

822
00:42:37,840 --> 00:42:39,600
Speaker 1: By the way, I didn't mean to say that you're

823
00:42:39,600 --> 00:42:42,640
Speaker 1: going nowhere. Your career is on a meteoric rise.

824
00:42:42,840 --> 00:42:45,760
Speaker 8: I am now in park, Jake, So now I am going.

825
00:42:46,480 --> 00:42:48,040
Speaker 1: You got what I was trying to say there, It

826
00:42:48,200 --> 00:42:50,440
Speaker 1: just it just came out the wrong way, All right,

827
00:42:50,480 --> 00:42:51,880
Speaker 1: Tony appreciate it as always.

828
00:42:52,320 --> 00:42:54,320
Speaker 7: Yeah, thanks having guys, I Tony East.

829
00:42:54,160 --> 00:42:56,840
Speaker 1: Joining us on the program. We come back a question

830
00:42:56,960 --> 00:42:59,719
Speaker 1: regarding something happening on Sunday, and it's not the usual one.

831
00:42:59,760 --> 00:43:02,920
Speaker 1: I'm asking about the Super Bowl. I'll put Eddie to

832
00:43:02,960 --> 00:43:05,400
Speaker 1: the test with it and get his thoughts on my

833
00:43:06,280 --> 00:43:09,080
Speaker 1: three forty eight brain dropping from two nights ago that

834
00:43:09,120 --> 00:43:12,479
Speaker 1: I forgot to bring up yesterday. Okay, are you ready

835
00:43:12,480 --> 00:43:17,239
Speaker 1: for this one? Eddie? Now you're you're going to immediately

836
00:43:17,239 --> 00:43:19,080
Speaker 1: give me your aunt and be like, oh no, and

837
00:43:19,080 --> 00:43:21,279
Speaker 1: you're going to be like, but I want you to

838
00:43:21,280 --> 00:43:22,480
Speaker 1: stop and really think about this.

839
00:43:22,560 --> 00:43:24,719
Speaker 2: Okay, alrighty, I will do that.

840
00:43:26,640 --> 00:43:30,760
Speaker 1: Which if you if you were walking down the street, yep,

841
00:43:32,800 --> 00:43:34,799
Speaker 1: and there before you laying on the ground as an

842
00:43:34,800 --> 00:43:38,399
Speaker 1: empty soda and or beer can give me the give

843
00:43:38,440 --> 00:43:42,400
Speaker 1: me the When you're thinking of this scenario, you envision

844
00:43:42,480 --> 00:43:47,080
Speaker 1: it being a can of what beverage surf side? Okay

845
00:43:48,200 --> 00:43:50,279
Speaker 1: A and by the way, that's a that's a great

846
00:43:50,320 --> 00:43:54,759
Speaker 1: call because zero carbonation. You know whoever had it enjoyed it, right,

847
00:43:54,880 --> 00:43:57,120
Speaker 1: that's right, Iced tea with a splash of vodka, leimonade

848
00:43:57,120 --> 00:44:01,359
Speaker 1: with a splash of vodka, or iced TM leman even better, right,

849
00:44:01,640 --> 00:44:04,840
Speaker 1: just one hundred calories. So you're walking along and you

850
00:44:04,920 --> 00:44:06,759
Speaker 1: reach down to pick up this can of serf side

851
00:44:06,760 --> 00:44:08,560
Speaker 1: because you're you know you'd like it as a souvenir

852
00:44:08,680 --> 00:44:11,880
Speaker 1: let alone because the sunset stripes on the can is beautiful.

853
00:44:12,600 --> 00:44:15,320
Speaker 1: So you pick it up and out pops the genie.

854
00:44:15,400 --> 00:44:17,760
Speaker 1: That's not Robin the genie. It's not Robin the Genie.

855
00:44:18,280 --> 00:44:19,280
Speaker 1: It's Rick the genie.

856
00:44:19,320 --> 00:44:22,279
Speaker 2: Robin's I don't think Robin's made the move yet, degenerate

857
00:44:22,360 --> 00:44:23,839
Speaker 2: cousin Rockin made the move?

858
00:44:23,920 --> 00:44:24,359
Speaker 1: What's that?

859
00:44:24,360 --> 00:44:26,560
Speaker 2: Has Robin made the move? Does he know we're out

860
00:44:26,600 --> 00:44:30,640
Speaker 2: of monument Circle? Robin's down there.

861
00:44:31,320 --> 00:44:34,640
Speaker 1: Robin's down there in our old building, skulking around looking

862
00:44:34,680 --> 00:44:39,520
Speaker 1: for anybody the remnants of radio past. But the genie

863
00:44:39,560 --> 00:44:41,000
Speaker 1: offers you this proposition.

864
00:44:41,280 --> 00:44:45,600
Speaker 7: Okay.

865
00:44:45,760 --> 00:44:52,480
Speaker 1: He can either tell you, without hesitation and with one certainty,

866
00:44:53,200 --> 00:44:55,840
Speaker 1: who is going to win the Super Bowl on Sunday.

867
00:44:57,320 --> 00:45:01,520
Speaker 1: He knows lock Stock and barrel for a fact, who's

868
00:45:01,560 --> 00:45:05,200
Speaker 1: going to win the game, okay, And he knows the

869
00:45:05,200 --> 00:45:06,400
Speaker 1: score of the game.

870
00:45:06,680 --> 00:45:08,040
Speaker 2: Okay.

871
00:45:09,000 --> 00:45:11,480
Speaker 1: He will share that information with you and you can

872
00:45:11,520 --> 00:45:17,439
Speaker 1: do with it as you wish, okay. Or you can

873
00:45:17,520 --> 00:45:20,239
Speaker 1: tell him the team that you want to see win

874
00:45:21,239 --> 00:45:24,759
Speaker 1: next year's Super Bowl. You just simply can't profit off

875
00:45:24,800 --> 00:45:29,160
Speaker 1: of it next year. Which would you go with? And

876
00:45:29,200 --> 00:45:31,160
Speaker 1: which do you think most fans would go.

877
00:45:31,200 --> 00:45:34,600
Speaker 2: With probably the first option, because you can profit off

878
00:45:34,600 --> 00:45:38,680
Speaker 2: of set it correct, that's correct, said situation.

879
00:45:39,040 --> 00:45:46,440
Speaker 1: Now you can, that's correct. The one drawback being, of course,

880
00:45:46,560 --> 00:45:49,800
Speaker 1: if you depending on where it is that you wager,

881
00:45:50,000 --> 00:45:55,799
Speaker 1: and I have no idea how it works when you

882
00:45:55,800 --> 00:45:57,560
Speaker 1: you know, on this short of notice. I mean, if

883
00:45:57,560 --> 00:46:00,000
Speaker 1: you were going to put down two million dollars in Vegas,

884
00:46:00,040 --> 00:46:02,200
Speaker 1: i'mware obviously you'd have to have that sort of money

885
00:46:02,280 --> 00:46:04,640
Speaker 1: up front. What are you going to do? Go to

886
00:46:04,640 --> 00:46:06,480
Speaker 1: somebody and go, hey, I need two million dollars? Can

887
00:46:06,520 --> 00:46:09,000
Speaker 1: you loan me two million? Well, I guarantee, yeah, I

888
00:46:09,080 --> 00:46:10,440
Speaker 1: just ran into a genie that came out of a

889
00:46:10,480 --> 00:46:11,080
Speaker 1: surfside camp.

890
00:46:11,239 --> 00:46:11,479
Speaker 7: Yeah.

891
00:46:12,040 --> 00:46:15,239
Speaker 1: So, but I would imagine you could you know, you

892
00:46:15,280 --> 00:46:18,120
Speaker 1: could still muster up a fair amount of money. You

893
00:46:18,160 --> 00:46:21,000
Speaker 1: would really kick yourself and there would be a mental

894
00:46:21,040 --> 00:46:25,200
Speaker 1: anguish over the obsession with finding as much money as

895
00:46:25,239 --> 00:46:27,360
Speaker 1: possible to wager because you know that you're going to

896
00:46:27,400 --> 00:46:31,160
Speaker 1: win it, right, But I truly believe I asked this

897
00:46:31,360 --> 00:46:35,880
Speaker 1: yesterday on the expost Twitter, YEP, and I was surprised

898
00:46:36,000 --> 00:46:39,600
Speaker 1: by the number of people that were, like, you know,

899
00:46:39,640 --> 00:46:42,880
Speaker 1: what I could profit off of year one? That's correct.

900
00:46:43,280 --> 00:46:47,000
Speaker 1: But I'm a fan of the Bills, I'm a fan

901
00:46:47,080 --> 00:46:50,080
Speaker 1: of the Browns, I'm a fan of.

902
00:46:51,840 --> 00:46:54,879
Speaker 3: You know, the Chargers, and I just.

903
00:46:54,840 --> 00:46:57,040
Speaker 1: Don't know that I'll ever see it and it's worth

904
00:46:57,040 --> 00:47:00,200
Speaker 1: it to me as opposed to an immediate pay. That

905
00:47:00,400 --> 00:47:05,440
Speaker 1: surprised me. I thought the the best response I got

906
00:47:05,560 --> 00:47:09,560
Speaker 1: was from somebody that said there were two. One said

907
00:47:10,200 --> 00:47:13,719
Speaker 1: I would go with option one because if I was

908
00:47:13,800 --> 00:47:15,919
Speaker 1: able to tell the genie who I wanted to win

909
00:47:16,040 --> 00:47:19,840
Speaker 1: next year. One guy said I would pick the Colts,

910
00:47:19,840 --> 00:47:23,840
Speaker 1: but they would screw it up anyway. And then somebody

911
00:47:23,840 --> 00:47:25,919
Speaker 1: else that said I would pick the Colts. The only

912
00:47:26,000 --> 00:47:27,960
Speaker 1: problem is then that would mean we'd get ten more

913
00:47:28,000 --> 00:47:29,040
Speaker 1: years of Chris Pallard.

914
00:47:29,440 --> 00:47:32,560
Speaker 2: Let me ask you this, Could you still profit on

915
00:47:32,960 --> 00:47:36,040
Speaker 2: option two, but not directly through yourself?

916
00:47:36,200 --> 00:47:38,879
Speaker 1: No, So like you know, let's say, like.

917
00:47:38,880 --> 00:47:40,799
Speaker 2: The genie asked me, I'm like, understay I.

918
00:47:40,800 --> 00:47:46,560
Speaker 1: Want you can't go to the level of the Generation.

919
00:47:46,360 --> 00:47:48,400
Speaker 2: Finals, and I can't tell you like, hey, Jake, you

920
00:47:48,400 --> 00:47:50,360
Speaker 2: should put no a million bucks.

921
00:47:50,400 --> 00:47:52,799
Speaker 1: You cannot share the information the one Indy car check

922
00:47:52,840 --> 00:47:55,920
Speaker 1: if that you just got if you share the information

923
00:47:56,200 --> 00:47:58,560
Speaker 1: and or the genie because the genie you know, he's

924
00:47:58,600 --> 00:48:00,680
Speaker 1: like he's like Saan, He's always watching.

925
00:48:00,760 --> 00:48:00,920
Speaker 7: Right.

926
00:48:01,760 --> 00:48:04,960
Speaker 1: If you do that, then the team that you picked

927
00:48:05,040 --> 00:48:09,200
Speaker 1: it becomes invalid. They will not win. So basically what

928
00:48:09,239 --> 00:48:11,120
Speaker 1: we know is last year, when the Colts were eight

929
00:48:11,160 --> 00:48:12,960
Speaker 1: and two, somebody made this deal with the Genie and

930
00:48:13,000 --> 00:48:16,880
Speaker 1: then they broke the promise. Now, speaking of the Colts,

931
00:48:16,960 --> 00:48:19,600
Speaker 1: I've got a question that I thought of the other day,

932
00:48:21,680 --> 00:48:25,160
Speaker 1: and I've allowed myself to go further down the hypothetical

933
00:48:25,239 --> 00:48:26,359
Speaker 1: rabbit hole with it.

934
00:48:26,640 --> 00:48:31,200
Speaker 3: Oh goodness, that and more on the NBA trade deadline next.

935
00:48:32,719 --> 00:48:35,560
Speaker 1: I got to thinking about this last night on this

936
00:48:35,880 --> 00:48:39,279
Speaker 1: the day of the NBA trade deadline, as I was

937
00:48:39,320 --> 00:48:41,640
Speaker 1: sitting there thinking about Ben Matheren and whether or not

938
00:48:41,680 --> 00:48:45,520
Speaker 1: he's going to be moved, and whether or not, you know,

939
00:48:45,600 --> 00:48:49,800
Speaker 1: Zubats is coming from the Clippers, or Gafford from Dallas,

940
00:48:49,880 --> 00:48:53,440
Speaker 1: or you know, whatever it may be. And as I'm

941
00:48:53,440 --> 00:48:57,040
Speaker 1: thinking about all of that, I begin thinking about player movement,

942
00:48:59,120 --> 00:49:03,600
Speaker 1: player comfort level, and history of knowing and understanding franchises.

943
00:49:03,719 --> 00:49:06,279
Speaker 1: And an interesting thing popped into my head. As I

944
00:49:06,320 --> 00:49:09,239
Speaker 1: was thinking about Super Bowl sixty as it relates to

945
00:49:09,280 --> 00:49:16,040
Speaker 1: the NBA trade deadline. Well, this guy's an idiot. She's

946
00:49:16,080 --> 00:49:17,920
Speaker 1: talking about the super Bowl in the NBA trade deadline.

947
00:49:17,920 --> 00:49:20,120
Speaker 1: The super Bowl's the NFL trade deadlines, the NBA.

948
00:49:20,280 --> 00:49:21,200
Speaker 3: What is he talking about?

949
00:49:21,800 --> 00:49:29,399
Speaker 1: Allow me to explain, sometimes teams gel together and make

950
00:49:29,440 --> 00:49:34,239
Speaker 1: a push because everything just happens to work perfectly with

951
00:49:34,280 --> 00:49:40,400
Speaker 1: one another. And sometimes teams may be kind of just

952
00:49:40,480 --> 00:49:45,719
Speaker 1: floating along and they're like this this collection of Amoeba's

953
00:49:45,760 --> 00:49:49,040
Speaker 1: floating and then all of a sudden, the right nucleus

954
00:49:49,120 --> 00:49:52,000
Speaker 1: is dropped into the middle and everything magnetizes towards it,

955
00:49:52,040 --> 00:49:56,120
Speaker 1: and boom, you've got a perfect cell. To a great extent,

956
00:49:56,160 --> 00:50:01,360
Speaker 1: that happened with the Pacers, where you had a number

957
00:50:01,400 --> 00:50:03,520
Speaker 1: of different players that they were kind of trying to

958
00:50:03,560 --> 00:50:06,080
Speaker 1: feel out Miles Turner. They'd tried it with Sabonis. They

959
00:50:06,160 --> 00:50:10,120
Speaker 1: knew he was a good player, they liked him. And

960
00:50:10,200 --> 00:50:15,400
Speaker 1: then they get Tyrese Haliburton, and they take kind of

961
00:50:15,400 --> 00:50:19,200
Speaker 1: the flyer that Halliburton, that Siakam is the style of

962
00:50:19,360 --> 00:50:21,239
Speaker 1: player that would benefit from Halliburton.

963
00:50:21,280 --> 00:50:22,360
Speaker 3: But they see nim Harder.

964
00:50:22,360 --> 00:50:24,040
Speaker 1: They like what nim hard can do, and they like

965
00:50:24,320 --> 00:50:26,480
Speaker 1: and they can tell that they have the nucleus that

966
00:50:26,520 --> 00:50:31,239
Speaker 1: allows everything to come together and is there the possibility

967
00:50:31,360 --> 00:50:37,080
Speaker 1: right now that the trade deadline is not giving us

968
00:50:38,200 --> 00:50:43,399
Speaker 1: big oomph factor because NBA teams are starting to more

969
00:50:43,520 --> 00:50:50,120
Speaker 1: explore and examine that they're simply looking for that nucleus

970
00:50:50,160 --> 00:50:53,080
Speaker 1: of the cell that can allow all of their amiebas

971
00:50:53,280 --> 00:50:57,919
Speaker 1: to then come together perfectly, as opposed to going out

972
00:50:57,960 --> 00:51:01,759
Speaker 1: and getting the big blockbuster, three headed monster that we

973
00:51:01,800 --> 00:51:04,120
Speaker 1: had seen in the past and we talked about. I

974
00:51:04,239 --> 00:51:07,040
Speaker 1: mentioned it on the air as the Pacers were making

975
00:51:07,040 --> 00:51:09,640
Speaker 1: their run last year and for that mattered the Knicks

976
00:51:10,840 --> 00:51:14,360
Speaker 1: battling with them in the Eastern Conference Finals and to

977
00:51:14,400 --> 00:51:19,239
Speaker 1: an extent, Oklahoma City. Those are teams that are collections

978
00:51:18,200 --> 00:51:22,440
Speaker 1: about standing players that have a very clear engine running them,

979
00:51:23,120 --> 00:51:29,160
Speaker 1: but it's not super team stuff and the same can

980
00:51:29,280 --> 00:51:32,840
Speaker 1: and so therefore with the trade deadline, are we seeing

981
00:51:33,000 --> 00:51:36,399
Speaker 1: less excitement about We've got to go out and get

982
00:51:36,400 --> 00:51:40,440
Speaker 1: Giannis and pair them with our star, as opposed to

983
00:51:41,360 --> 00:51:44,520
Speaker 1: let's make our star the nucleus and just make sure

984
00:51:44,560 --> 00:51:46,160
Speaker 1: that everything else is running off of it.

985
00:51:49,560 --> 00:51:52,840
Speaker 3: And that is also true in the NFL to an extent.

986
00:51:55,040 --> 00:52:00,399
Speaker 1: And when you look at right now in the Super Bowl, yes,

987
00:52:00,640 --> 00:52:04,080
Speaker 1: New England went out and got a young quarterback, and

988
00:52:04,120 --> 00:52:05,960
Speaker 1: he's a young quarterback that when he was at North

989
00:52:06,000 --> 00:52:10,040
Speaker 1: Carolina had a lot of praise about him of had

990
00:52:10,040 --> 00:52:15,239
Speaker 1: the pedigree, had the moxie, and the accuracy, and I

991
00:52:15,280 --> 00:52:17,480
Speaker 1: think people knew he was going to be a very

992
00:52:17,480 --> 00:52:22,200
Speaker 1: good quarterback, and he went to the right situation, which

993
00:52:22,239 --> 00:52:26,680
Speaker 1: is ninety percent of it. So much of a quarterback

994
00:52:26,800 --> 00:52:32,719
Speaker 1: success is simply being in the right situation and having

995
00:52:32,719 --> 00:52:36,800
Speaker 1: the right players around you and supporting cast et cetera.

996
00:52:38,400 --> 00:52:41,120
Speaker 1: Peyton Manning is arguably the greatest quarterback of all time,

997
00:52:42,960 --> 00:52:47,440
Speaker 1: and Peyton Manning made a lot of players great players.

998
00:52:48,360 --> 00:52:52,040
Speaker 1: He made Brandon Stokely a great player, taking nothing away

999
00:52:52,080 --> 00:52:58,160
Speaker 1: from Stokely's skill set or Joe Dene Davenport's skill set,

1000
00:52:58,480 --> 00:53:00,719
Speaker 1: or you know, you can go on and on with

1001
00:53:00,800 --> 00:53:05,880
Speaker 1: some of the tight ends he had, Ryan Fletcher or

1002
00:53:05,960 --> 00:53:08,200
Speaker 1: Reggie Wayne. You saw the Peter King comments about the

1003
00:53:08,200 --> 00:53:10,400
Speaker 1: fact that Reggie Wayne he felt like maybe could be

1004
00:53:10,440 --> 00:53:17,440
Speaker 1: demerited because he played with Peyton Manning. But Peyton Manning,

1005
00:53:17,480 --> 00:53:21,400
Speaker 1: as great as he was, also benefited from having the

1006
00:53:21,440 --> 00:53:26,440
Speaker 1: same offensive coordinator and what three head coaches in his

1007
00:53:26,480 --> 00:53:33,960
Speaker 1: time here, stability around him was very important, and so

1008
00:53:36,000 --> 00:53:38,120
Speaker 1: take a look at a franchise that has a young

1009
00:53:38,200 --> 00:53:42,960
Speaker 1: quarterback versus a franchise that has a veteran that simply

1010
00:53:43,000 --> 00:53:45,040
Speaker 1: needed to be put in, and they thought, you know what,

1011
00:53:46,320 --> 00:53:48,200
Speaker 1: he could be the nucleus guy because we've got all

1012
00:53:48,200 --> 00:53:51,400
Speaker 1: the ambas around him and he's the last piece. And

1013
00:53:51,440 --> 00:53:55,600
Speaker 1: that might be what Sam Darnold is in Seattle. Seattle

1014
00:53:55,640 --> 00:53:58,160
Speaker 1: has a good roster, they have an elite level receiver,

1015
00:53:58,360 --> 00:54:01,200
Speaker 1: they have two very good shifting back behind the quarterback.

1016
00:54:02,239 --> 00:54:04,680
Speaker 1: And then Sam Donald comes in and you're like, look,

1017
00:54:04,680 --> 00:54:08,520
Speaker 1: we don't need you to be Joe Montana. We don't

1018
00:54:08,560 --> 00:54:11,280
Speaker 1: need you to be Joe Namath. Just be Sam Donald.

1019
00:54:11,440 --> 00:54:14,640
Speaker 1: Don't turn the ball over, but rely on the strengths

1020
00:54:14,680 --> 00:54:19,080
Speaker 1: around you and use your expertise as a veteran. All

1021
00:54:19,120 --> 00:54:22,799
Speaker 1: of that. All of that to say this, when you

1022
00:54:22,800 --> 00:54:25,480
Speaker 1: look at the NBA and you look at the state

1023
00:54:25,560 --> 00:54:29,080
Speaker 1: of teams in the NFL, you see that we may

1024
00:54:29,120 --> 00:54:33,600
Speaker 1: be in fact shifting to back to all of it's cyclical,

1025
00:54:35,480 --> 00:54:41,960
Speaker 1: a period where some being better than the individual parts

1026
00:54:42,160 --> 00:54:45,480
Speaker 1: might right now be the trend. Part of the Super

1027
00:54:45,480 --> 00:54:49,279
Speaker 1: Bowl lack of oomph right now, in my opinion, is

1028
00:54:49,280 --> 00:54:51,560
Speaker 1: the fact that there's not a lot of overwhelming star

1029
00:54:51,640 --> 00:54:52,239
Speaker 1: power in it.

1030
00:54:53,880 --> 00:54:57,279
Speaker 3: Who's the biggest star playing in the super Bowl.

1031
00:54:58,239 --> 00:54:59,040
Speaker 2: That's a good question.

1032
00:55:00,480 --> 00:55:04,120
Speaker 1: Jackson Smith and Jigma most of the house days in college.

1033
00:55:06,280 --> 00:55:09,359
Speaker 1: Well that and he had an unreal start to the season. Well,

1034
00:55:09,360 --> 00:55:11,120
Speaker 1: I know, but what I'm saying, but he plays in Seattle.

1035
00:55:11,160 --> 00:55:13,719
Speaker 1: I mean, he plays in a time zone and in

1036
00:55:13,760 --> 00:55:16,720
Speaker 1: an area detachs from so many people. I know the NFL,

1037
00:55:16,760 --> 00:55:20,520
Speaker 1: excuse me, is ubiquitous. I get it. He's rising right

1038
00:55:20,560 --> 00:55:22,400
Speaker 1: now into becoming a major star, but a lot of

1039
00:55:22,400 --> 00:55:27,279
Speaker 1: people haven't seen him play a lot. Right So here

1040
00:55:27,360 --> 00:55:33,560
Speaker 1: is my question. What if I told you that the

1041
00:55:33,560 --> 00:55:37,480
Speaker 1: Colts right now are going into next season with the

1042
00:55:37,520 --> 00:55:43,440
Speaker 1: thought and expectation that their quarterback is Daniel Jones, and

1043
00:55:43,880 --> 00:55:46,400
Speaker 1: very possibly, as we saw for the first ten games

1044
00:55:46,400 --> 00:55:50,560
Speaker 1: of this year, Daniel Jones is in fact that magnetic

1045
00:55:50,640 --> 00:55:54,359
Speaker 1: nucleus that on its own might not be overwhelming, but

1046
00:55:54,400 --> 00:55:56,239
Speaker 1: you put him into the cell and then all of

1047
00:55:56,320 --> 00:56:01,400
Speaker 1: a sudden, everything else, all the mitochondria attaches perfectly with

1048
00:56:01,480 --> 00:56:06,240
Speaker 1: the cell itself, and now you've got a real power

1049
00:56:06,320 --> 00:56:09,719
Speaker 1: sell here. And it seemed as though that was the

1050
00:56:09,719 --> 00:56:15,040
Speaker 1: case this past season until they got hurt and we

1051
00:56:15,280 --> 00:56:19,840
Speaker 1: all anticipate and expect that Daniel Jones will be the

1052
00:56:19,920 --> 00:56:23,440
Speaker 1: quarterback for the Colts this coming season, assuming that the

1053
00:56:23,480 --> 00:56:28,280
Speaker 1: achilles is healthy and there's a risk with that. And yes,

1054
00:56:28,880 --> 00:56:33,440
Speaker 1: they can franchise tag him, that we know, but it

1055
00:56:33,440 --> 00:56:37,160
Speaker 1: would cost them an astronomical amount of money to franchise

1056
00:56:37,200 --> 00:56:41,959
Speaker 1: tag him, some forty million dollars. If you had to guess, Eddie,

1057
00:56:42,840 --> 00:56:45,920
Speaker 1: if Daniel Jones signs with Indianapolis here coming up in

1058
00:56:45,960 --> 00:56:48,640
Speaker 1: a couple of months, what would you guess he's going

1059
00:56:48,680 --> 00:56:49,680
Speaker 1: to be paid annually?

1060
00:56:51,160 --> 00:56:53,040
Speaker 2: That's a great question. Let me pull up the Baker

1061
00:56:53,080 --> 00:56:58,359
Speaker 2: Mayfield contract with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers after his first

1062
00:56:58,480 --> 00:57:00,920
Speaker 2: year there, because I think he was there a one year.

1063
00:57:01,640 --> 00:57:03,239
Speaker 1: And then he signed. That's a good that's a good

1064
00:57:03,239 --> 00:57:06,480
Speaker 1: press for a year, that's a good precedent. Yeah, I'm

1065
00:57:06,520 --> 00:57:09,240
Speaker 1: going to guess that he got thirty a year, twenty

1066
00:57:09,239 --> 00:57:15,920
Speaker 1: five to thirty and that's a really good Well Darnld

1067
00:57:16,040 --> 00:57:19,000
Speaker 1: for that matter, But although Darnold just signed the one year, we.

1068
00:57:19,040 --> 00:57:21,680
Speaker 2: Signed a three year, one hundred million dollar deal.

1069
00:57:21,760 --> 00:57:25,400
Speaker 1: Baker did, yes, so he got just shy of thirty,

1070
00:57:25,480 --> 00:57:27,800
Speaker 1: So thirty three point three per year.

1071
00:57:28,160 --> 00:57:31,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, but the way that it was orchestrated or constructed.

1072
00:57:32,240 --> 00:57:35,200
Speaker 2: So the first year was seven million, just shy of that.

1073
00:57:35,960 --> 00:57:40,840
Speaker 2: You're number two twenty six point four this year, a

1074
00:57:40,840 --> 00:57:43,880
Speaker 2: cap hit of nearly fifty two.

1075
00:57:45,320 --> 00:57:54,800
Speaker 1: Okay, so here is my brain dropping, And I'm not

1076
00:57:54,840 --> 00:57:56,880
Speaker 1: going conspiracy theoristier, but.

1077
00:57:58,640 --> 00:57:59,720
Speaker 3: I got to thinking about this.

1078
00:58:01,360 --> 00:58:05,040
Speaker 1: What if I told you that the Colts automatically assume

1079
00:58:05,120 --> 00:58:08,760
Speaker 1: that Daniel Jones is going to be their guy. And

1080
00:58:08,880 --> 00:58:11,000
Speaker 1: let's say that the Colts have said to Daniel Jones,

1081
00:58:11,160 --> 00:58:15,720
Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield got basically thirty three a year. You're coming

1082
00:58:15,720 --> 00:58:18,480
Speaker 1: off of an Achilles. We don't know what your availability

1083
00:58:18,560 --> 00:58:20,800
Speaker 1: is going to be in the beginning. We're taking a

1084
00:58:20,920 --> 00:58:22,520
Speaker 1: leap of faith here that you're going to be one

1085
00:58:22,600 --> 00:58:26,560
Speaker 1: hundred percent. So we're going to slide that back a

1086
00:58:26,600 --> 00:58:28,600
Speaker 1: little bit and we're going to offer you a two year,

1087
00:58:28,720 --> 00:58:29,800
Speaker 1: sixty million dollar deal.

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00:58:30,920 --> 00:58:34,320
Speaker 3: See what you got fair?

1089
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Speaker 1: And one would assume that nobody else is going to

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Speaker 1: make that kind of an offer because of everything that

1091
00:58:42,400 --> 00:58:49,960
Speaker 1: I just mentioned, the Achilles, everything else. But Daniel Jones.

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00:58:50,120 --> 00:58:53,040
Speaker 1: Eddie has a key card that has worked for two

1093
00:58:53,040 --> 00:58:58,240
Speaker 1: other franchises besides the Indianapolis Colts. One of them, of course,

1094
00:58:58,320 --> 00:59:01,640
Speaker 1: is where he began as a New York Giant. Where

1095
00:59:01,720 --> 00:59:05,400
Speaker 1: is the other place that Daniel Jones walked in each

1096
00:59:05,560 --> 00:59:09,800
Speaker 1: day and sat in film rooms and went through practice.

1097
00:59:10,040 --> 00:59:16,120
Speaker 1: The Minnesota Vikings, the Minnesota Vikings who had Daniel Jones,

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00:59:16,600 --> 00:59:22,240
Speaker 1: Sam Donald and JJ McCarthy, and the Minnesota Vikings who

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00:59:22,320 --> 00:59:26,920
Speaker 1: allowed Sam Donald to make a lot of money because

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00:59:27,000 --> 00:59:30,400
Speaker 1: he played very well for them. JJ McCarthy was hurt.

1101
00:59:31,720 --> 00:59:36,280
Speaker 1: Seattle came along and Minnesota said, cool, we're good because

1102
00:59:36,280 --> 00:59:40,880
Speaker 1: we got JJ McCarthy who did not play well last year.

1103
00:59:41,400 --> 00:59:44,920
Speaker 1: And yes, he's a young player, but he did not

1104
00:59:45,040 --> 00:59:51,280
Speaker 1: play well last year. So what if Minnesota says to themselves,

1105
00:59:51,280 --> 01:00:00,120
Speaker 1: you know what, our GM is now gone. We have

1106
01:00:00,160 --> 01:00:02,160
Speaker 1: to make some decisions as to where to go. And

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01:00:02,200 --> 01:00:04,840
Speaker 1: if there was any sort of discussion within the building

1108
01:00:05,320 --> 01:00:07,760
Speaker 1: that we should have gone with a veteran player to

1109
01:00:07,840 --> 01:00:14,560
Speaker 1: take advantage of our elite level top end, one of

1110
01:00:14,600 --> 01:00:17,400
Speaker 1: the very very best, if not best wide receivers in

1111
01:00:17,440 --> 01:00:20,200
Speaker 1: the game. We got to take advantage of that now

1112
01:00:20,280 --> 01:00:25,440
Speaker 1: and get him the football. Justin Jefferson last year struggled

1113
01:00:25,600 --> 01:00:28,360
Speaker 1: mightily because they didn't get him the football. They didn't

1114
01:00:28,360 --> 01:00:34,160
Speaker 1: have anybody to get him the football. So what if

1115
01:00:34,200 --> 01:00:37,640
Speaker 1: the brass of the Minnesota Vikings said, let's go out

1116
01:00:37,680 --> 01:00:42,640
Speaker 1: and get a two year rental on a veteran quarterback

1117
01:00:42,680 --> 01:00:46,680
Speaker 1: to again allow JJ McCarthy more time to learn and

1118
01:00:46,760 --> 01:00:49,560
Speaker 1: take advantage of the prime of our elite level wide receiver.

1119
01:00:51,280 --> 01:00:54,640
Speaker 1: And what quarterback could we go and overpay for two

1120
01:00:54,720 --> 01:00:59,560
Speaker 1: years because we want somebody that can give stability here

1121
01:00:59,600 --> 01:01:02,120
Speaker 1: to find out out and assess and itemize exactly what

1122
01:01:02,200 --> 01:01:08,400
Speaker 1: roster we have and groom a young quarterback. And let's

1123
01:01:08,400 --> 01:01:12,560
Speaker 1: go back to the well of familiarity. Because everyone assumes

1124
01:01:12,760 --> 01:01:15,800
Speaker 1: that Daniel Jones is going to re sign with Indianapolis.

1125
01:01:16,120 --> 01:01:19,880
Speaker 1: But what, Eddie, if I told you that the person

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01:01:20,000 --> 01:01:27,120
Speaker 1: right now theoretically that would be making that decision or

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01:01:27,160 --> 01:01:30,840
Speaker 1: thinking about that for Minnesota and taking that leap of

1128
01:01:30,880 --> 01:01:33,600
Speaker 1: faith and saying, you know what, let's go and pluck

1129
01:01:33,720 --> 01:01:37,760
Speaker 1: Daniel Jones out of Indianapolis back to Minneapolis. Al Capoco

1130
01:01:37,840 --> 01:01:40,360
Speaker 1: Joe's one of my favorite restaurants ever in Indianapolis no

1131
01:01:40,400 --> 01:01:45,520
Speaker 1: longer around. Al Capolco Joe's was a restaurant because Joe

1132
01:01:45,600 --> 01:01:49,480
Speaker 1: himself when he immigrated from Mexico wanted to go to

1133
01:01:49,640 --> 01:01:52,400
Speaker 1: Minneapolis to open a restaurant because he thought cold weather

1134
01:01:52,440 --> 01:01:55,439
Speaker 1: would make people want hot food. And when he bought

1135
01:01:55,520 --> 01:01:59,959
Speaker 1: his bus ticket, he mispronounced Minneapolis as Indianapolis, and indian

1136
01:02:00,120 --> 01:02:05,240
Speaker 1: up here and open a restaurant. Fact, those two cities

1137
01:02:05,280 --> 01:02:07,360
Speaker 1: are so similar in the way that they are said,

1138
01:02:07,640 --> 01:02:09,840
Speaker 1: what if they're similar in terms of their thought at

1139
01:02:09,840 --> 01:02:14,800
Speaker 1: the quarterback spot in Indianapolis? Assumes that Daniel Jones signs here,

1140
01:02:14,800 --> 01:02:18,000
Speaker 1: but Minnesota decides, you know what, let's go back and

1141
01:02:18,120 --> 01:02:21,480
Speaker 1: get a quarterback, a veteran of familiarity. And you say

1142
01:02:21,480 --> 01:02:24,400
Speaker 1: to yourself, Jake, this is the dumbest, craziest thing I've

1143
01:02:24,440 --> 01:02:26,400
Speaker 1: ever heard. Why in the world would they go get

1144
01:02:26,400 --> 01:02:29,400
Speaker 1: a quarterback that is coming off of injury. That's a risk.

1145
01:02:30,920 --> 01:02:33,400
Speaker 1: Unless all of the reasons that I just mentioned, and

1146
01:02:33,520 --> 01:02:39,760
Speaker 1: this true or false, Eddie, Minnesota's general manager was just

1147
01:02:39,880 --> 01:02:41,680
Speaker 1: jettison of his responsibilities.

1148
01:02:41,760 --> 01:02:43,680
Speaker 2: He was he was fired.

1149
01:02:43,800 --> 01:02:47,160
Speaker 1: Yes, So if the general manager is fired, then one

1150
01:02:47,160 --> 01:02:51,200
Speaker 1: would assume am I correct in saying that the assistant

1151
01:02:51,280 --> 01:02:54,800
Speaker 1: general manager would be the one to take over decision

1152
01:02:54,840 --> 01:02:58,480
Speaker 1: making responsibilities until they can make another higher.

1153
01:02:58,280 --> 01:03:00,800
Speaker 2: Typically I would say yes, but not in this instance,

1154
01:03:00,880 --> 01:03:05,280
Speaker 2: Ryan Grigson is not taking over, okay, and who is

1155
01:03:06,560 --> 01:03:09,320
Speaker 2: I'm trying to figure out. I don't even know how

1156
01:03:09,360 --> 01:03:11,960
Speaker 2: to say the guy's last name. It's like Rob Brazinski.

1157
01:03:12,040 --> 01:03:16,240
Speaker 1: Maybe because if Ryan Grigson, though, is in that room,

1158
01:03:16,280 --> 01:03:18,240
Speaker 1: you would think that he's got to have influence, right,

1159
01:03:18,920 --> 01:03:20,520
Speaker 1: you would think that he's got to have say. And

1160
01:03:20,720 --> 01:03:24,000
Speaker 1: he also is somebody that is looking around, and Ryan

1161
01:03:24,000 --> 01:03:25,960
Speaker 1: Grigson would be the first one to say, you know what,

1162
01:03:28,960 --> 01:03:33,880
Speaker 1: you think Ryan Grigson is wanting to keep things stable

1163
01:03:34,160 --> 01:03:43,200
Speaker 1: for Indianapolis and Chris Ballard. Because if Ryan Grigson wanted

1164
01:03:43,240 --> 01:03:46,120
Speaker 1: to get one over on the Colts and it could

1165
01:03:46,160 --> 01:03:51,520
Speaker 1: benefit Mini Apples, it could benefit Minnesota to place a

1166
01:03:51,520 --> 01:03:54,240
Speaker 1: phone called to Daniel Jones. And I truly believe Daniel

1167
01:03:54,320 --> 01:03:57,360
Speaker 1: Jones wants to be here. I believe that, and I

1168
01:03:57,360 --> 01:04:00,400
Speaker 1: think the only place he would go aside for here

1169
01:04:00,600 --> 01:04:03,680
Speaker 1: and feel comfortable would be Minnesota. He knows their doctors,

1170
01:04:03,840 --> 01:04:06,640
Speaker 1: he knows their staff, he knows their roster, he knows

1171
01:04:06,680 --> 01:04:09,919
Speaker 1: their system. So what if they came and said, we'll

1172
01:04:09,960 --> 01:04:14,720
Speaker 1: give you two years at seventy million, what sort of

1173
01:04:14,760 --> 01:04:17,160
Speaker 1: a bind would it put Chris Ballard and the Colts

1174
01:04:17,160 --> 01:04:19,440
Speaker 1: in if Daniel Jones went elsewhere.

1175
01:04:21,240 --> 01:04:23,680
Speaker 2: It would put them in a major bind. Jake and

1176
01:04:23,800 --> 01:04:26,640
Speaker 2: Jake Fisher, by the way, reporting that another potential tie

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01:04:27,600 --> 01:04:30,000
Speaker 2: to Indiana could be on the move. It appears that

1178
01:04:30,080 --> 01:04:35,440
Speaker 2: the Sixers are discussing trades to move Eric Gordon. So

1179
01:04:35,480 --> 01:04:38,200
Speaker 2: there's another one, another former.

1180
01:04:38,520 --> 01:04:40,440
Speaker 1: I mean, Gordon's got to be in the Mike Conley

1181
01:04:40,560 --> 01:04:43,080
Speaker 1: area of probably buy out at this point, right.

1182
01:04:43,040 --> 01:04:46,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know. I don't think he's played much anyway.

1183
01:04:46,000 --> 01:04:49,000
Speaker 2: But to your point, I mean, if Daniel Jones leaves,

1184
01:04:49,960 --> 01:04:52,160
Speaker 2: they have no other op correct, they have no option.

1185
01:04:52,360 --> 01:04:54,120
Speaker 2: And I will tell you this, and you can say

1186
01:04:54,200 --> 01:05:00,000
Speaker 2: Riley Leonard or whatever. But I'm still not sold on him.

1187
01:05:00,000 --> 01:05:02,440
Speaker 1: I don't want to speak for him. I open disclaimer.

1188
01:05:02,480 --> 01:05:06,720
Speaker 1: I like Ryan Grigson as a person. I do, and

1189
01:05:06,800 --> 01:05:09,280
Speaker 1: I don't know that Ryan Grigson's a guy of strong faith.

1190
01:05:09,320 --> 01:05:11,920
Speaker 1: I don't know that he's the vindictive type. But I

1191
01:05:12,000 --> 01:05:15,439
Speaker 1: also know that I think Ryan Grigson is bewildered by

1192
01:05:15,720 --> 01:05:23,920
Speaker 1: the leash that Chris Ballard has gotten here. And ninety

1193
01:05:24,000 --> 01:05:27,000
Speaker 1: eight percent of the reason why Minnesota. I only say

1194
01:05:27,040 --> 01:05:30,440
Speaker 1: Minnesota because it's the one franchise. I could see Daniel

1195
01:05:30,520 --> 01:05:34,880
Speaker 1: Jones taking a look towards aside from here. It's the

1196
01:05:34,880 --> 01:05:37,920
Speaker 1: one that I can see. And even if Gregson's not

1197
01:05:37,960 --> 01:05:40,480
Speaker 1: the guy making the ultimate say, he's going to have

1198
01:05:40,560 --> 01:05:44,320
Speaker 1: say he's the assistant general manager with no acting general manager.

1199
01:05:45,160 --> 01:05:48,600
Speaker 1: If anything, it's decision by committee, and his voice is

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01:05:48,600 --> 01:05:50,960
Speaker 1: going to be stronger than mine is. Right now, I

1201
01:05:51,000 --> 01:05:55,919
Speaker 1: can tell you that. And I got to thinking about

1202
01:05:55,920 --> 01:06:02,240
Speaker 1: it last night and I thought, there's no way. We've

1203
01:06:02,240 --> 01:06:06,280
Speaker 1: all had jobs. We've all had jobs that we I

1204
01:06:06,280 --> 01:06:08,560
Speaker 1: shouldn't say, we've all had jobs that have moved on

1205
01:06:08,680 --> 01:06:12,080
Speaker 1: from us. But there is a human nature element of

1206
01:06:12,120 --> 01:06:15,680
Speaker 1: it of yeah, we'll see how they do without me.

1207
01:06:17,800 --> 01:06:21,880
Speaker 1: Or when you leave your job and somebody else has

1208
01:06:21,880 --> 01:06:25,160
Speaker 1: brought in, you know, what do people say to you, Oh, man,

1209
01:06:25,560 --> 01:06:28,880
Speaker 1: the new guy, the new guy, he's nothing compared to

1210
01:06:28,880 --> 01:06:32,920
Speaker 1: what you were. No. No, And Gregson has to be

1211
01:06:32,960 --> 01:06:36,600
Speaker 1: looking at it saying I went to the AFC title

1212
01:06:36,640 --> 01:06:46,560
Speaker 1: game like I had success and I won playoff games

1213
01:06:47,360 --> 01:06:51,720
Speaker 1: multiple Yeah. I mean, you can go on and on

1214
01:06:51,760 --> 01:06:54,880
Speaker 1: and on about the way Andrew Luck got his body

1215
01:06:54,880 --> 01:06:56,960
Speaker 1: beat up and maybe that's what led Luck to retire

1216
01:06:56,960 --> 01:06:58,840
Speaker 1: on Chris Ballard, but I mean, give me a break.

1217
01:06:58,840 --> 01:07:00,680
Speaker 1: Balance have more than enough to to make up for that,

1218
01:07:01,320 --> 01:07:03,000
Speaker 1: and it just kind of feels stuck in the sand.

1219
01:07:05,120 --> 01:07:07,800
Speaker 1: I'm not saying they make that move, but A. I

1220
01:07:07,800 --> 01:07:10,880
Speaker 1: thought it was peculiar. B. I thought there was some

1221
01:07:12,120 --> 01:07:15,000
Speaker 1: reasoning why I could see that being the one team

1222
01:07:15,160 --> 01:07:21,240
Speaker 1: to inquire se. I thought that was the one team

1223
01:07:21,320 --> 01:07:24,280
Speaker 1: in which Daniel Jones might actually take the call in d.

1224
01:07:24,640 --> 01:07:30,320
Speaker 1: I thought that would absolutely smolder of the Colts if

1225
01:07:30,320 --> 01:07:33,440
Speaker 1: they were to lose him, because they got I mean,

1226
01:07:33,520 --> 01:07:36,720
Speaker 1: Anthony Richardson. Kevin Bowen's got a great article up right

1227
01:07:36,720 --> 01:07:38,360
Speaker 1: now on the website one O seven to five defan

1228
01:07:38,440 --> 01:07:42,680
Speaker 1: dot com about Richardson and how it just feels fada complete,

1229
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Speaker 1: like that's coming to an end that relationship. And I

1230
01:07:47,120 --> 01:07:51,000
Speaker 1: don't Richardson now may be in the Miles Turner camp

1231
01:07:51,000 --> 01:07:52,320
Speaker 1: of like how do you go back to that now

1232
01:07:52,320 --> 01:07:55,200
Speaker 1: and be like, hey, guess what you're our guy? I mean,

1233
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Speaker 1: come on, speaking of the Colts, did you say Matt

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01:07:58,400 --> 01:08:00,640
Speaker 1: Taylor's going to join us? Yes, we're going to talk

1235
01:08:00,680 --> 01:08:02,400
Speaker 1: super Bowl in seventies music primarily.

1236
01:08:03,800 --> 01:08:05,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know if music's on the on the

1237
01:08:06,160 --> 01:08:08,960
Speaker 2: categories for tonight, but we'll see halfway through.

1238
01:08:09,040 --> 01:08:12,120
Speaker 1: By the way, on this NBA Trade deadline show, Ben

1239
01:08:12,240 --> 01:08:15,160
Speaker 1: Matheren still a pacer, but we got our eye on it.

1240
01:08:16,760 --> 01:08:21,280
Speaker 1: Super Bowl sixty is set. And by the way, Eddie,

1241
01:08:21,280 --> 01:08:22,280
Speaker 1: I don't know if you know this or not, but

1242
01:08:22,800 --> 01:08:27,400
Speaker 1: Levi's Is it still Levis Stadium? Yes? Is every section

1243
01:08:27,479 --> 01:08:28,200
Speaker 1: five oh one?

1244
01:08:28,600 --> 01:08:29,960
Speaker 2: Why would that be okay?

1245
01:08:31,920 --> 01:08:34,799
Speaker 1: That that stadium is like an hour south of San Francisco.

1246
01:08:34,840 --> 01:08:36,000
Speaker 1: Like I see people that are like, I'm going to

1247
01:08:36,000 --> 01:08:38,200
Speaker 1: San Francisco for the Super Bowl. I'm like, well, you're

1248
01:08:38,280 --> 01:08:40,719
Speaker 1: going to pay a out for an uber or rent

1249
01:08:40,760 --> 01:08:43,479
Speaker 1: a car because it's actually down closer like Santa Clara,

1250
01:08:43,520 --> 01:08:46,040
Speaker 1: San Jose area, all of It's an awesome area, no

1251
01:08:46,160 --> 01:08:50,719
Speaker 1: question about it. Seahawks and the New England Patriots joining

1252
01:08:50,760 --> 01:08:52,559
Speaker 1: us now in the Java House. Pielaport guest line. He

1253
01:08:52,600 --> 01:08:56,080
Speaker 1: is the radio voice of the Indianapolis Colts, Matt Taylor,

1254
01:08:56,080 --> 01:08:58,680
Speaker 1: who will be doing a little trivia at Aleb Porium.

1255
01:08:58,680 --> 01:09:01,800
Speaker 1: More on that coming up, but Matt, I'll begin with

1256
01:09:01,840 --> 01:09:05,080
Speaker 1: this your thoughts on the Super Bowl matchup and also

1257
01:09:05,280 --> 01:09:06,599
Speaker 1: basically how you break it down.

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01:09:07,840 --> 01:09:09,919
Speaker 7: Yeah, I think it's really fun I think it's interesting.

1259
01:09:10,040 --> 01:09:11,920
Speaker 9: You know, I don't think it's getting you know, a

1260
01:09:11,920 --> 01:09:15,559
Speaker 9: ton of national hype just because it's you know, two

1261
01:09:15,720 --> 01:09:19,719
Speaker 9: non sexy teams, if you will, on complete opposite sides

1262
01:09:19,760 --> 01:09:22,519
Speaker 9: of the of the country in different coasts.

1263
01:09:22,520 --> 01:09:25,799
Speaker 7: But I think it's like the first Super Bowl since.

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Speaker 9: Nineteen seventy where both teams have offenses and defenses that

1265
01:09:31,080 --> 01:09:34,840
Speaker 9: are ranked in the top four in scoring both on

1266
01:09:34,960 --> 01:09:38,599
Speaker 9: offense and defense, which is pretty incredible. And I also

1267
01:09:38,640 --> 01:09:42,240
Speaker 9: read where New England played. I mean, credit to them, right,

1268
01:09:42,240 --> 01:09:44,439
Speaker 9: they're in the Super Bowl and a huge turnaround. They

1269
01:09:44,479 --> 01:09:46,720
Speaker 9: were four and thirteen last year and this year they

1270
01:09:46,720 --> 01:09:50,160
Speaker 9: were fourteen and three I think in the regular season,

1271
01:09:50,200 --> 01:09:54,559
Speaker 9: but biggest turnaround in win total from one year to

1272
01:09:54,600 --> 01:09:57,800
Speaker 9: the next in the Super Bowl era. And also they

1273
01:09:57,840 --> 01:10:02,840
Speaker 9: played the easiest schedule based on opponents winning percentage in

1274
01:10:02,880 --> 01:10:06,000
Speaker 9: the last fifty years, right, I mean, the AFC East

1275
01:10:06,040 --> 01:10:08,040
Speaker 9: is kind of down this year. And then everybody else

1276
01:10:08,080 --> 01:10:11,040
Speaker 9: they played was you know, certainly not world beaters, and

1277
01:10:11,120 --> 01:10:13,800
Speaker 9: Drake May took advantage of that and new culture with

1278
01:10:14,280 --> 01:10:16,600
Speaker 9: Mike Vrabel. Then on the other you know, end of

1279
01:10:16,640 --> 01:10:22,160
Speaker 9: the spectrum with Seattle, great defense and great quarterback resurgence,

1280
01:10:22,360 --> 01:10:24,840
Speaker 9: you know, continue to stack year after year with.

1281
01:10:26,479 --> 01:10:27,560
Speaker 7: You know, with with.

1282
01:10:27,240 --> 01:10:31,559
Speaker 9: With obviously what you know Seattle's doing at the quarterback position.

1283
01:10:31,880 --> 01:10:34,760
Speaker 9: You know, Sam Darnold's had two back to back good

1284
01:10:34,800 --> 01:10:36,400
Speaker 9: seasons with different.

1285
01:10:36,000 --> 01:10:38,200
Speaker 7: Teams, and you know now he's on.

1286
01:10:38,200 --> 01:10:40,400
Speaker 9: His fifth year and trying to direct them to the

1287
01:10:40,400 --> 01:10:43,360
Speaker 9: super Bowl title. So I think there's plenty of storylines,

1288
01:10:43,400 --> 01:10:46,080
Speaker 9: you know, within the minutia of things, even though nationally

1289
01:10:46,120 --> 01:10:48,080
Speaker 9: it's probably not moving the needle like some of the

1290
01:10:48,120 --> 01:10:50,680
Speaker 9: other matchups in the playoffs in terms of what it

1291
01:10:50,680 --> 01:10:51,320
Speaker 9: could offered.

1292
01:10:51,880 --> 01:10:54,519
Speaker 1: It is interesting, Matt, because and I wondered if it

1293
01:10:54,560 --> 01:10:58,200
Speaker 1: was just me, you know, in years past, and I

1294
01:10:58,280 --> 01:11:00,880
Speaker 1: know the NFL is I mean, you know, you work

1295
01:11:00,920 --> 01:11:04,080
Speaker 1: in it. The NFL in terms of the American sports

1296
01:11:04,120 --> 01:11:06,639
Speaker 1: culture is the top dog. I mean, there's no denying that.

1297
01:11:07,400 --> 01:11:11,800
Speaker 1: But in years past, you know, all the anticipation of

1298
01:11:11,840 --> 01:11:14,640
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl media Day and the wacky hijinks and

1299
01:11:14,680 --> 01:11:17,120
Speaker 1: the videos of teams coming off the plane and they've

1300
01:11:17,200 --> 01:11:20,519
Speaker 1: arrived and they're here and and just you know, all

1301
01:11:20,640 --> 01:11:23,080
Speaker 1: the build up, it just seems like I haven't heard

1302
01:11:23,120 --> 01:11:25,000
Speaker 1: as much of it this year, am I just like,

1303
01:11:25,960 --> 01:11:28,439
Speaker 1: is my head in the sand, or does there seem

1304
01:11:28,520 --> 01:11:30,639
Speaker 1: to be to your point, And I think a big

1305
01:11:30,680 --> 01:11:32,679
Speaker 1: part of it maybe is that if that's the reason,

1306
01:11:32,960 --> 01:11:36,720
Speaker 1: but at my off basin saying that the buzz feels less.

1307
01:11:37,400 --> 01:11:39,120
Speaker 7: Yeah, I don't know. Maybe it's just us.

1308
01:11:39,160 --> 01:11:42,479
Speaker 9: I mean, we've got to fut of snow on the ground,

1309
01:11:42,520 --> 01:11:44,960
Speaker 9: and it's you know, we're the gold rooms of winter.

1310
01:11:45,520 --> 01:11:48,560
Speaker 9: You know, we've been focusing on different things. I don't know,

1311
01:11:48,560 --> 01:11:52,560
Speaker 9: I'm being certainly not this type of guy, But politically,

1312
01:11:52,560 --> 01:11:55,200
Speaker 9: there's a lot going on right now. Maybe that's diverting

1313
01:11:55,640 --> 01:11:59,000
Speaker 9: people's attention. Maybe the fact that the game's on the

1314
01:11:59,000 --> 01:12:03,679
Speaker 9: West Coast and so yeah, you're like three hours behind

1315
01:12:03,800 --> 01:12:05,840
Speaker 9: Radio Row and some of the stuff coming out of

1316
01:12:06,400 --> 01:12:10,320
Speaker 9: you know, the the ground Zero epicenter of the NFL

1317
01:12:10,479 --> 01:12:13,479
Speaker 9: news circuit and things like that. But yeah, I mean,

1318
01:12:14,760 --> 01:12:17,439
Speaker 9: you know, I think it'd be one thing if this

1319
01:12:17,520 --> 01:12:19,000
Speaker 9: were like the Buffalo Bills.

1320
01:12:19,080 --> 01:12:20,719
Speaker 7: You know that. I think the Bills kind of.

1321
01:12:21,479 --> 01:12:23,480
Speaker 9: Move the meter a little bit more than the Patriots

1322
01:12:23,479 --> 01:12:26,840
Speaker 9: because they're kind of like that lovable team that people.

1323
01:12:27,080 --> 01:12:29,479
Speaker 7: You know, it's hard to not like Josh Allen, right, I.

1324
01:12:29,479 --> 01:12:32,200
Speaker 1: Would think the lions of this if this was Bill's Lions,

1325
01:12:32,240 --> 01:12:33,479
Speaker 1: it would be massive, right.

1326
01:12:33,520 --> 01:12:35,680
Speaker 9: Yeah, right, I mean you have more of like the

1327
01:12:35,840 --> 01:12:39,800
Speaker 9: underdog and you know, we're we're finally here and you know,

1328
01:12:40,000 --> 01:12:44,400
Speaker 9: broke through type of storylines, whereas you know, Seattle, Uh,

1329
01:12:44,800 --> 01:12:47,160
Speaker 9: you know what, what's what's coach McDonald out there like

1330
01:12:47,200 --> 01:12:48,439
Speaker 9: in his first or second year.

1331
01:12:50,200 --> 01:12:50,600
Speaker 1: I don't know.

1332
01:12:50,720 --> 01:12:52,680
Speaker 9: Yeah, I think there's just it's just kind of like

1333
01:12:52,720 --> 01:12:54,800
Speaker 9: a you know, we're going to watch the game because

1334
01:12:54,800 --> 01:12:56,840
Speaker 9: that's what we do. We're so conditioned to do that

1335
01:12:56,920 --> 01:13:00,160
Speaker 9: culturally here in the United States. So you know, I

1336
01:13:00,200 --> 01:13:02,320
Speaker 9: don't think ratings are going to suffer, but in terms

1337
01:13:02,400 --> 01:13:06,120
Speaker 9: of like sexiness of the game and the storylines, it's, uh,

1338
01:13:06,920 --> 01:13:08,519
Speaker 9: it's it's kind of down there a little bit.

1339
01:13:08,640 --> 01:13:11,200
Speaker 1: Okay, I want to know, you know, I love trivia, right,

1340
01:13:11,880 --> 01:13:15,879
Speaker 1: so tell me about the trivia the trivia night essentially

1341
01:13:15,920 --> 01:13:17,800
Speaker 1: that you're doing. Yeah.

1342
01:13:17,840 --> 01:13:19,640
Speaker 7: So I basically came up with this.

1343
01:13:19,680 --> 01:13:21,479
Speaker 9: I've been wanting to do this for the last couple

1344
01:13:21,520 --> 01:13:23,280
Speaker 9: of years, and so at the end of the season,

1345
01:13:23,320 --> 01:13:25,120
Speaker 9: I told myself, I'm just going to get down to

1346
01:13:25,200 --> 01:13:27,720
Speaker 9: doing it, and so I spent some free time and

1347
01:13:28,040 --> 01:13:28,960
Speaker 9: same same thing with.

1348
01:13:29,000 --> 01:13:32,040
Speaker 7: You, Right, I love trivia. I love bar trivia, but

1349
01:13:32,080 --> 01:13:33,519
Speaker 7: I don't want to be there all night, you know

1350
01:13:33,520 --> 01:13:33,800
Speaker 7: what I mean.

1351
01:13:33,800 --> 01:13:35,120
Speaker 9: I don't want to be there for like two and

1352
01:13:35,120 --> 01:13:37,800
Speaker 9: a half hours. And sometimes you go to trivia and

1353
01:13:37,800 --> 01:13:41,120
Speaker 9: you can kind of lag and just kind of, you know,

1354
01:13:41,840 --> 01:13:43,559
Speaker 9: loll on a little bit and you kind of get,

1355
01:13:44,000 --> 01:13:45,960
Speaker 9: you know, lulled to sleep with you know, the time

1356
01:13:46,040 --> 01:13:50,000
Speaker 9: period between questions. And I also, I mean, I'm kind

1357
01:13:50,000 --> 01:13:52,920
Speaker 9: of a well rounded person, but I don't know, you know,

1358
01:13:53,080 --> 01:13:56,280
Speaker 9: like how many rings are around Jupiter and Saturn. I

1359
01:13:56,280 --> 01:13:58,719
Speaker 9: don't know how many countries are in the United Nations.

1360
01:13:59,080 --> 01:14:02,960
Speaker 9: I know sports, and specifically I know Indiana sports, right

1361
01:14:03,000 --> 01:14:03,960
Speaker 9: because I'm from here.

1362
01:14:04,840 --> 01:14:06,559
Speaker 7: I have this job.

1363
01:14:06,360 --> 01:14:08,519
Speaker 9: Within the NFL and the Colts, and I consume the

1364
01:14:08,560 --> 01:14:11,439
Speaker 9: Pacers and IndyCar and all that great stuff. So I

1365
01:14:11,479 --> 01:14:13,640
Speaker 9: basically came up with the game that I would like

1366
01:14:13,720 --> 01:14:15,599
Speaker 9: to play and that I think I'd.

1367
01:14:15,400 --> 01:14:16,200
Speaker 7: Be pretty good at.

1368
01:14:16,320 --> 01:14:20,760
Speaker 9: So it's called Indiana Sports and Indiana Sports Trivia, I

1369
01:14:20,760 --> 01:14:23,120
Speaker 9: should say. And I just basically called around town and

1370
01:14:23,439 --> 01:14:25,479
Speaker 9: you tried to see if some folks would want to

1371
01:14:25,479 --> 01:14:28,040
Speaker 9: do it. And we're in our just our second week

1372
01:14:28,040 --> 01:14:31,120
Speaker 9: of doing it, and tonight we're at the ale Emporium

1373
01:14:31,120 --> 01:14:31,880
Speaker 9: in Greenwood.

1374
01:14:32,360 --> 01:14:34,000
Speaker 7: We're going to be there in a couple of weeks.

1375
01:14:34,479 --> 01:14:38,080
Speaker 9: Last week we're at Tiebreakers downtown on MASSV. We're going

1376
01:14:38,160 --> 01:14:41,240
Speaker 9: to be there again next Thursday. Coming up in a

1377
01:14:41,280 --> 01:14:45,639
Speaker 9: couple of fridays from now, the twentieth, February twentieth, it's

1378
01:14:45,680 --> 01:14:49,839
Speaker 9: the night of the IU Purdue basketball game at Purdue.

1379
01:14:50,120 --> 01:14:52,680
Speaker 9: That night we're going to be at O'Reilly's in Speedway.

1380
01:14:53,360 --> 01:14:55,200
Speaker 9: We've added a couple of dates coming up at the

1381
01:14:55,280 --> 01:14:59,719
Speaker 9: Dugout downtown. So basically it's just all it's all questions

1382
01:14:59,760 --> 01:15:02,880
Speaker 9: about the Colts, the Pacers and IU and Purdue and

1383
01:15:03,280 --> 01:15:05,920
Speaker 9: Notre Dame and Butler and Indy cars, some high school

1384
01:15:05,920 --> 01:15:08,920
Speaker 9: stuff rolled in there, and so I've got some categories.

1385
01:15:09,439 --> 01:15:14,120
Speaker 9: There are seven rounds per game, six questions per round, Jake.

1386
01:15:14,200 --> 01:15:16,479
Speaker 9: The questions kind of ramp up as.

1387
01:15:16,280 --> 01:15:17,679
Speaker 7: You go along in the round.

1388
01:15:18,080 --> 01:15:20,559
Speaker 9: And you know, I'm bringing some cult swag, you know,

1389
01:15:20,600 --> 01:15:23,720
Speaker 9: some Coults autographed items. We're giving away gift cards to

1390
01:15:23,720 --> 01:15:25,760
Speaker 9: wherever we're at. So again tonight we're at the ale

1391
01:15:25,800 --> 01:15:28,840
Speaker 9: Emporium in Greenwood on the south Side. We start at

1392
01:15:28,880 --> 01:15:31,720
Speaker 9: seven o'clock. We're gonna have some fun. I promise it's

1393
01:15:31,760 --> 01:15:33,840
Speaker 9: gonna move and I'm not going to keep you there

1394
01:15:33,880 --> 01:15:36,120
Speaker 9: all night, so we're gonna be there. You know, I

1395
01:15:36,120 --> 01:15:40,840
Speaker 9: think this probably takes anywhere between hour fifteen hour twenty five.

1396
01:15:41,320 --> 01:15:43,720
Speaker 9: And you know, if you love sports and you think

1397
01:15:43,720 --> 01:15:45,920
Speaker 9: you're a sports not about this town and you know,

1398
01:15:45,960 --> 01:15:48,320
Speaker 9: the capital city of sports in central Indiana, I think

1399
01:15:48,320 --> 01:15:49,439
Speaker 9: this is the perfect game for you.

1400
01:15:49,760 --> 01:15:52,040
Speaker 3: Okay, can you give me a sample question?

1401
01:15:52,560 --> 01:15:55,559
Speaker 7: Put me on this spobolutely absolutely, here we go.

1402
01:15:55,720 --> 01:15:58,519
Speaker 9: All right, so I'll give you I'll give you questions

1403
01:15:58,520 --> 01:15:59,839
Speaker 9: from a game we did last.

1404
01:15:59,600 --> 01:16:01,360
Speaker 7: Week, so that way, I'm not going to like spoil

1405
01:16:01,360 --> 01:16:02,040
Speaker 7: it for anybody.

1406
01:16:02,080 --> 01:16:06,160
Speaker 9: Okay, So first, the first question or the first category

1407
01:16:06,280 --> 01:16:10,000
Speaker 9: is hall of Famers. Okay, so I'm gonna give you

1408
01:16:10,080 --> 01:16:12,760
Speaker 9: like the just because I know you're good. So I'm

1409
01:16:12,760 --> 01:16:15,160
Speaker 9: going to skip like the easy questions and kind of

1410
01:16:15,160 --> 01:16:16,320
Speaker 9: go to the middle questions.

1411
01:16:16,360 --> 01:16:19,320
Speaker 7: Okay, Okay, so all right, here we go. This.

1412
01:16:19,320 --> 01:16:21,599
Speaker 1: By the way, I'm putting myself at great risk here

1413
01:16:21,640 --> 01:16:23,639
Speaker 1: because people are going to say to themselves, I listened

1414
01:16:23,640 --> 01:16:25,360
Speaker 1: to this guy thinking he knows sports, He's an idiot.

1415
01:16:25,400 --> 01:16:25,920
Speaker 1: He doesn't know this.

1416
01:16:26,360 --> 01:16:27,840
Speaker 9: Trust me, trust me, I'm not going to do that

1417
01:16:27,880 --> 01:16:30,000
Speaker 9: to you. Plus, I have that much confident in you.

1418
01:16:30,400 --> 01:16:30,800
Speaker 7: Here we go.

1419
01:16:31,240 --> 01:16:33,519
Speaker 9: So ring this is Ring of honor or. Hall of

1420
01:16:33,560 --> 01:16:37,840
Speaker 9: Famers is the theme to this category. So this basketball

1421
01:16:37,880 --> 01:16:41,040
Speaker 9: Hall of Famer Jake Basketball Hall of Famers score over

1422
01:16:41,120 --> 01:16:45,120
Speaker 9: eighteen thousand points in the NBA and he helped guide

1423
01:16:45,200 --> 01:16:50,680
Speaker 9: Indiana to Bob Knight's second in c DOAA Basketball Championship.

1424
01:16:51,880 --> 01:16:53,960
Speaker 1: I'm going to go with the only Hall of Famer

1425
01:16:54,000 --> 01:16:56,120
Speaker 1: to play for Bob Knight, which would be Isaiah Thomas.

1426
01:16:56,600 --> 01:16:58,640
Speaker 9: There you go, boy, there you go. Okay, So now

1427
01:16:58,680 --> 01:17:00,559
Speaker 9: I'm going to give you the whopper. It's like this

1428
01:17:00,600 --> 01:17:03,960
Speaker 9: is this is question six. This is worth twelve points,

1429
01:17:04,000 --> 01:17:06,519
Speaker 9: So so you go. Question one is worth two question

1430
01:17:06,560 --> 01:17:07,679
Speaker 9: twos with four So one.

1431
01:17:07,800 --> 01:17:10,160
Speaker 1: Do I get bonus if I know that Indiana's second

1432
01:17:10,200 --> 01:17:12,080
Speaker 1: national title for Bob Knight was a sixty three to

1433
01:17:12,160 --> 01:17:14,160
Speaker 1: fifty win on March thirtieth, nineteen eighty one in the

1434
01:17:14,160 --> 01:17:15,160
Speaker 1: Spectrorm in Philadelphia.

1435
01:17:15,520 --> 01:17:18,160
Speaker 9: That's right, I mean, right now, you should auction yourself

1436
01:17:18,200 --> 01:17:21,519
Speaker 9: off at the highest bidders, come to the come to the.

1437
01:17:21,479 --> 01:17:23,759
Speaker 7: Show, to come to the game tonight, and then you're.

1438
01:17:23,600 --> 01:17:27,400
Speaker 9: The ringer, right people. People are paying for your services here,

1439
01:17:27,760 --> 01:17:30,320
Speaker 9: all right. So this is this is the hardest question

1440
01:17:30,439 --> 01:17:33,839
Speaker 9: within hall of famers here, all right, So listen closely.

1441
01:17:33,960 --> 01:17:35,160
Speaker 7: This Hooper Jake.

1442
01:17:35,640 --> 01:17:38,680
Speaker 9: He's in both the Indiana Basketball Hall of Fame in

1443
01:17:38,760 --> 01:17:43,240
Speaker 9: Newcastle and he's in the IU Hall of Fame. He's

1444
01:17:43,280 --> 01:17:47,640
Speaker 9: also the only player in IU history basketball history to

1445
01:17:47,720 --> 01:17:53,320
Speaker 9: rank top five in career points, rebounds, block shots, and steals.

1446
01:17:54,600 --> 01:18:00,920
Speaker 1: My first guess on this is going to be a

1447
01:18:01,000 --> 01:18:04,080
Speaker 1: guy that is in my graduating class of high school.

1448
01:18:04,160 --> 01:18:04,960
Speaker 3: Is that possible?

1449
01:18:07,080 --> 01:18:08,800
Speaker 7: He's yeah, he's probably in the neighborhood.

1450
01:18:09,439 --> 01:18:10,719
Speaker 3: I'll go with Alan Henderson.

1451
01:18:11,320 --> 01:18:15,120
Speaker 9: Damn, damn, you're good, bro, Damn You're okay.

1452
01:18:15,160 --> 01:18:18,120
Speaker 1: How about this one? Now, this is I asked this

1453
01:18:18,160 --> 01:18:21,240
Speaker 1: one on the air, Matt there is let me, let

1454
01:18:21,240 --> 01:18:22,880
Speaker 1: me and this is unfair of me to ask it

1455
01:18:22,920 --> 01:18:24,439
Speaker 1: to you this way. But you can use this one

1456
01:18:24,479 --> 01:18:26,880
Speaker 1: in a later if you have not used it yet.

1457
01:18:26,920 --> 01:18:30,200
Speaker 1: You're ready, Yeah, yeah, when I was and I mentioned

1458
01:18:30,200 --> 01:18:32,559
Speaker 1: this on the air just the other day when I

1459
01:18:32,640 --> 01:18:35,320
Speaker 1: was at the Hall of Fame in Canton. You know

1460
01:18:35,400 --> 01:18:36,840
Speaker 1: they have Have you been to the Hall of Fame

1461
01:18:36,880 --> 01:18:37,400
Speaker 1: in Canton? Right?

1462
01:18:37,400 --> 01:18:38,439
Speaker 3: The Pro Football Hall of Fame.

1463
01:18:39,439 --> 01:18:41,440
Speaker 7: Yeah, it's been a while because, Yeah.

1464
01:18:41,160 --> 01:18:44,960
Speaker 1: When you walk into that shrine room, it's very impressive, right,

1465
01:18:45,040 --> 01:18:47,479
Speaker 1: I mean you walk in and it's everyone's kind of quiet.

1466
01:18:47,520 --> 01:18:50,240
Speaker 1: It's very impressive. And they have a number of different

1467
01:18:50,240 --> 01:18:51,880
Speaker 1: ways that you can look up Hall of Famers. You

1468
01:18:51,920 --> 01:18:54,000
Speaker 1: can look them up by college, by team of service,

1469
01:18:54,040 --> 01:18:57,639
Speaker 1: et cetera. Yep, in the Pro Football Hall of Fame.

1470
01:18:57,880 --> 01:19:02,559
Speaker 1: Who is the only inductee to have Indianapolis, Indiana listed

1471
01:19:02,640 --> 01:19:07,799
Speaker 1: as their birthplace? There is no I had no idea

1472
01:19:07,880 --> 01:19:11,200
Speaker 1: of this. This would be like the Wopper Wopper Wopper

1473
01:19:11,240 --> 01:19:14,160
Speaker 1: final question. I had no idea of this. I only

1474
01:19:14,160 --> 01:19:15,840
Speaker 1: know it because I looked it up. And when I

1475
01:19:15,880 --> 01:19:19,160
Speaker 1: looked it up, I thought, this is the ultimate question.

1476
01:19:19,240 --> 01:19:22,920
Speaker 1: Because literally, this guy's family and the doctor that delivered

1477
01:19:23,000 --> 01:19:25,200
Speaker 1: him are probably the only people that know he was

1478
01:19:25,240 --> 01:19:27,840
Speaker 1: born in Indianapolis, India. He has no connection to the

1479
01:19:27,840 --> 01:19:28,640
Speaker 1: state whatsoever.

1480
01:19:29,200 --> 01:19:30,800
Speaker 7: So he didn't play for the Colds.

1481
01:19:30,720 --> 01:19:35,760
Speaker 1: No, literally no. And he's kind of a I hate

1482
01:19:35,800 --> 01:19:39,000
Speaker 1: to say, an obscure Hall of Famer. That sounds ridiculous,

1483
01:19:39,040 --> 01:19:40,920
Speaker 1: but in terms of Hall of Famers, he's a little

1484
01:19:40,920 --> 01:19:41,479
Speaker 1: bit obscure.

1485
01:19:42,640 --> 01:19:44,240
Speaker 9: Okay, Well, then I don't know, I was going to say,

1486
01:19:44,240 --> 01:19:46,439
Speaker 9: like Bob Greasy, but I don't know where Bob Greasey

1487
01:19:46,479 --> 01:19:46,840
Speaker 9: is from.

1488
01:19:47,400 --> 01:19:49,599
Speaker 1: He was from Evansville, I don't know where he was born, right,

1489
01:19:49,880 --> 01:19:52,439
Speaker 1: Chris Dolman of the Minnesota Vikings.

1490
01:19:52,880 --> 01:19:57,000
Speaker 7: Wow, Yeah, that is that is Wopper City. So I

1491
01:19:57,040 --> 01:19:58,519
Speaker 7: mean that would be a good question.

1492
01:19:58,640 --> 01:20:00,680
Speaker 9: So another thing that I have, as I said, I

1493
01:20:00,720 --> 01:20:04,200
Speaker 9: have seven seven rounds, six questions per round, and then

1494
01:20:04,240 --> 01:20:06,360
Speaker 9: I have at the end of the game, like a

1495
01:20:06,400 --> 01:20:09,519
Speaker 9: final Jeopardy question. And those are kind of fun where

1496
01:20:09,560 --> 01:20:12,439
Speaker 9: I have like put these things in order or like

1497
01:20:12,479 --> 01:20:14,519
Speaker 9: put them from the high school the lowest, you know,

1498
01:20:14,640 --> 01:20:17,360
Speaker 9: like where people get to wager the amount of points

1499
01:20:17,360 --> 01:20:20,240
Speaker 9: that they've accrued to the first seven rounds and then

1500
01:20:20,240 --> 01:20:22,960
Speaker 9: they get the bonus points the final jeopardy style like

1501
01:20:23,000 --> 01:20:25,439
Speaker 9: where you if you win it, if you get a right,

1502
01:20:25,479 --> 01:20:27,320
Speaker 9: you get that many extra points and then you get

1503
01:20:27,640 --> 01:20:30,519
Speaker 9: deduction if you if you lose it. That's that's a

1504
01:20:30,560 --> 01:20:33,479
Speaker 9: really good one as far as like a final jeopardy question.

1505
01:20:33,720 --> 01:20:36,519
Speaker 1: Matt, here's a question for you. You know, you being

1506
01:20:36,560 --> 01:20:39,599
Speaker 1: an outgoing guy, which would you say has been the

1507
01:20:39,640 --> 01:20:42,280
Speaker 1: most fun aspect of putting this together? Matt Taylor the

1508
01:20:42,360 --> 01:20:44,080
Speaker 1: voice of the Colts, my guest Java house Peel and

1509
01:20:44,120 --> 01:20:45,200
Speaker 1: poor guest line, would it be.

1510
01:20:45,200 --> 01:20:47,320
Speaker 3: A coming up with the questions?

1511
01:20:47,760 --> 01:20:53,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, b you know, interacting with and having fun with

1512
01:20:53,840 --> 01:20:56,519
Speaker 1: the people when you're out there with it, or c

1513
01:20:57,479 --> 01:21:00,000
Speaker 1: coming up with the formats of it and the score

1514
01:21:00,320 --> 01:21:00,960
Speaker 1: and everything else.

1515
01:21:02,080 --> 01:21:04,439
Speaker 7: I would probably say coming up with the questions is.

1516
01:21:04,520 --> 01:21:08,120
Speaker 9: It has been very enjoyable, and I think probably like

1517
01:21:08,160 --> 01:21:11,280
Speaker 9: a tie is just like getting out and seeing people

1518
01:21:11,400 --> 01:21:14,760
Speaker 9: have fun and enjoying the game and interacting with them.

1519
01:21:14,880 --> 01:21:18,320
Speaker 9: And I think again, the reason why I've been so

1520
01:21:18,479 --> 01:21:21,720
Speaker 9: motivated to do this is because, like it there is

1521
01:21:21,760 --> 01:21:23,439
Speaker 9: a foot of snow in the ground, and I think,

1522
01:21:23,479 --> 01:21:25,240
Speaker 9: you know, we're gonna eventually get out of this, but

1523
01:21:25,360 --> 01:21:27,920
Speaker 9: like there's not a lot to look forward to right now.

1524
01:21:28,000 --> 01:21:30,760
Speaker 9: Right we're kind of stuck inside and you know, we're

1525
01:21:30,800 --> 01:21:33,559
Speaker 9: just you know, we're gonna watch the Olympics and there's

1526
01:21:33,600 --> 01:21:35,960
Speaker 9: college basketball on every night. But like this is just

1527
01:21:36,000 --> 01:21:37,760
Speaker 9: like a fun thing to do in the winter time

1528
01:21:38,120 --> 01:21:41,760
Speaker 9: to get people out, kind of bring people together, as

1529
01:21:41,840 --> 01:21:46,400
Speaker 9: cheesy as that sounds, and you know, just sharing something

1530
01:21:46,400 --> 01:21:49,759
Speaker 9: that we all consume, which is sports in this town.

1531
01:21:50,360 --> 01:21:52,800
Speaker 9: And you know, it's been fun to kind of like

1532
01:21:52,960 --> 01:21:56,880
Speaker 9: just see people from different age groups playing the game.

1533
01:21:57,040 --> 01:21:59,640
Speaker 9: You know, like last week we had a couple of diehards,

1534
01:22:00,080 --> 01:22:03,679
Speaker 9: some older, older guys just completely dominates, right, So it's

1535
01:22:03,720 --> 01:22:06,320
Speaker 9: just fun to like see them put their knowledge to

1536
01:22:06,400 --> 01:22:08,360
Speaker 9: the tests and have fun with it. So it's been

1537
01:22:08,760 --> 01:22:10,640
Speaker 9: I mean, again, as corny is a sound, it's been

1538
01:22:10,680 --> 01:22:13,080
Speaker 9: pretty rewarding and I've really had a lot of fun

1539
01:22:13,160 --> 01:22:13,479
Speaker 9: doing it.

1540
01:22:13,560 --> 01:22:15,719
Speaker 3: Where do people find out, like when the next one's

1541
01:22:15,760 --> 01:22:16,080
Speaker 3: going to be?

1542
01:22:17,320 --> 01:22:19,720
Speaker 9: So I'm putting it out there on social media, right,

1543
01:22:19,760 --> 01:22:23,000
Speaker 9: so follow me on social media on x at Mayte

1544
01:22:23,120 --> 01:22:26,680
Speaker 9: Holts and just continuing to kind of update, you know,

1545
01:22:26,800 --> 01:22:29,519
Speaker 9: posts on where we're going to be in some of

1546
01:22:29,520 --> 01:22:30,920
Speaker 9: the new dates that we've added.

1547
01:22:31,000 --> 01:22:33,439
Speaker 7: So just for the immediacy of things.

1548
01:22:33,439 --> 01:22:36,160
Speaker 9: So again tonight we're at Greenwood at the ale and

1549
01:22:36,280 --> 01:22:39,800
Speaker 9: Porium Next Thursday, so week from tonight we're at Tiebreakers

1550
01:22:39,880 --> 01:22:43,600
Speaker 9: downtown on Mass Have two weeks from tonight, so I

1551
01:22:43,600 --> 01:22:45,800
Speaker 9: think that's the nineteenth, We're back at the alee on

1552
01:22:45,920 --> 01:22:50,000
Speaker 9: Porium in Greenwood, the twentieth, which is a Friday, O'Reilly's

1553
01:22:50,040 --> 01:22:54,559
Speaker 9: in Speedway, and then the twenty sixth or the twenty seventh.

1554
01:22:54,880 --> 01:22:56,720
Speaker 9: It's a couple thursdays from now. You might want to

1555
01:22:56,760 --> 01:23:00,280
Speaker 9: double check me on this, but like in late February, uh,

1556
01:23:01,040 --> 01:23:04,360
Speaker 9: late late February on a Thursday, we're at the dugout

1557
01:23:04,400 --> 01:23:07,799
Speaker 9: for the first time, uh doing it with Indiana Sports Trivia.

1558
01:23:07,920 --> 01:23:11,960
Speaker 9: So again it's just something fun to do and look

1559
01:23:12,040 --> 01:23:14,519
Speaker 9: forward to and get out and uh, you know, enjoy

1560
01:23:14,600 --> 01:23:17,280
Speaker 9: some beverages and test your knowledge on sports trivia.

1561
01:23:17,040 --> 01:23:19,519
Speaker 2: Matt Taylor in true Jeopardy style, do you keep track

1562
01:23:19,560 --> 01:23:21,479
Speaker 2: of all the people that have won? And then do

1563
01:23:21,560 --> 01:23:23,960
Speaker 2: you do a tournament of champions and the winner of

1564
01:23:24,000 --> 01:23:27,000
Speaker 2: the Tournament of Champions gets to sit in with you

1565
01:23:27,160 --> 01:23:29,920
Speaker 2: right Vterio whomever in the broadcast booth for a game.

1566
01:23:29,840 --> 01:23:32,960
Speaker 9: That that is a wonderful idea at a now the

1567
01:23:33,000 --> 01:23:35,040
Speaker 9: wheels are definitely in motion right now.

1568
01:23:35,200 --> 01:23:36,479
Speaker 7: You're you're killing it.

1569
01:23:36,760 --> 01:23:39,200
Speaker 9: And that's that's been the fun part too, is coming

1570
01:23:39,280 --> 01:23:42,120
Speaker 9: up with because I think we all have like different

1571
01:23:43,080 --> 01:23:45,479
Speaker 9: you know, wheelhouses if you will. So what I've done,

1572
01:23:45,600 --> 01:23:48,360
Speaker 9: Jake is I've come up with the categories or the themes,

1573
01:23:48,760 --> 01:23:51,840
Speaker 9: and then I write answers down to you know, what

1574
01:23:51,920 --> 01:23:54,240
Speaker 9: would fit in within the theme, and then I write

1575
01:23:54,240 --> 01:23:55,960
Speaker 9: the questions, so I kind of like do it in

1576
01:23:56,040 --> 01:23:58,479
Speaker 9: like reverse orders, so to speak. So if you have

1577
01:23:58,520 --> 01:24:01,200
Speaker 9: any like good ideas for like a theme, because what I.

1578
01:24:01,120 --> 01:24:04,080
Speaker 1: Don't want to do so in other words, in other words,

1579
01:24:04,160 --> 01:24:06,360
Speaker 1: like all the answers to this next question are people

1580
01:24:06,439 --> 01:24:09,000
Speaker 1: that would have been on the Indiana All Star Team

1581
01:24:09,120 --> 01:24:10,240
Speaker 1: or whatever that of exactly?

1582
01:24:10,520 --> 01:24:12,439
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, So I mean like I've got I got

1583
01:24:12,439 --> 01:24:12,960
Speaker 7: a fun.

1584
01:24:12,840 --> 01:24:15,600
Speaker 9: Theme called you know the Other Guys, which is like,

1585
01:24:15,720 --> 01:24:19,280
Speaker 9: you know, famous events in Indiana sports history, where like

1586
01:24:19,360 --> 01:24:22,040
Speaker 9: one player is known for something big, but like another

1587
01:24:22,120 --> 01:24:25,000
Speaker 9: person involved in it, they'll be maybe kind of forgot

1588
01:24:25,040 --> 01:24:28,479
Speaker 9: about it, you know. So that's that's been a fun theme. Uh.

1589
01:24:28,640 --> 01:24:31,360
Speaker 9: I got another, you know section where I just slash

1590
01:24:31,439 --> 01:24:33,760
Speaker 9: up a picture on a screen and people have to

1591
01:24:33,800 --> 01:24:37,040
Speaker 9: identify like an old school obscure pacer or cold or

1592
01:24:37,360 --> 01:24:38,320
Speaker 9: IU basketball.

1593
01:24:38,360 --> 01:24:40,320
Speaker 1: That's the Grandville Waiters category.

1594
01:24:40,960 --> 01:24:44,920
Speaker 9: Yeah, Like, if you have any good ideas for for

1595
01:24:45,120 --> 01:24:46,880
Speaker 9: themes because of what I don't want to do is

1596
01:24:46,920 --> 01:24:49,080
Speaker 9: like ask people about I don't want to ask them

1597
01:24:49,120 --> 01:24:51,519
Speaker 9: like six straight questions about Colts running backs.

1598
01:24:51,520 --> 01:24:53,479
Speaker 7: Well if you don't, if you don't know the Colts,

1599
01:24:53,800 --> 01:24:55,519
Speaker 7: you're kind of hoe is for an entire round.

1600
01:24:55,560 --> 01:24:56,760
Speaker 9: So what I want to do is kind of like

1601
01:24:56,800 --> 01:25:00,320
Speaker 9: sprinkle a question about Purdue and I U and the

1602
01:25:00,320 --> 01:25:02,760
Speaker 9: Pacers and Colts in every round to kind of keep

1603
01:25:02,800 --> 01:25:03,519
Speaker 9: it fair and keep.

1604
01:25:03,439 --> 01:25:04,959
Speaker 3: It mixing some Franklin football.

1605
01:25:05,960 --> 01:25:09,560
Speaker 9: Yeah yeah, if nobody, yeah, if you want to stump.

1606
01:25:09,280 --> 01:25:12,519
Speaker 7: Everybody, and everybody leave right away. A great call.

1607
01:25:12,680 --> 01:25:15,600
Speaker 1: Here you go, Matt, right here my favorite place, my

1608
01:25:15,720 --> 01:25:19,360
Speaker 1: heart the Bulldog. I Hey, Jake, stay from the Bulldog.

1609
01:25:19,360 --> 01:25:21,040
Speaker 1: I'd love to get in touch with Matt. See about

1610
01:25:21,120 --> 01:25:22,400
Speaker 1: him doing a show there you.

1611
01:25:22,360 --> 01:25:25,400
Speaker 9: Go, absolutely pass it on, pay it forward with let's

1612
01:25:25,439 --> 01:25:26,559
Speaker 9: talk mix him.

1613
01:25:26,920 --> 01:25:28,759
Speaker 1: I will send you his number. Mix in some Butler

1614
01:25:28,760 --> 01:25:31,040
Speaker 1: trivia with it at the Bulldog, Matt, I appreciate it.

1615
01:25:31,120 --> 01:25:33,080
Speaker 1: As always. Prediction on the Super Bowl.

1616
01:25:34,160 --> 01:25:36,559
Speaker 9: Yeah, I'm gonna go Seattle. I'm gonna go Seattle. I

1617
01:25:36,640 --> 01:25:39,559
Speaker 9: just think their defense and then, uh, you know, you

1618
01:25:39,560 --> 01:25:41,960
Speaker 9: look at New England inability to score inside the red

1619
01:25:42,040 --> 01:25:44,479
Speaker 9: zone consistently for that's kind of think the one big

1620
01:25:44,560 --> 01:25:47,559
Speaker 9: problem is having to settle for threes inside the red zone.

1621
01:25:47,600 --> 01:25:49,080
Speaker 7: So I'm going to go Seattle.

1622
01:25:49,240 --> 01:25:52,160
Speaker 9: Probably a close game, but maybe a two score game

1623
01:25:52,200 --> 01:25:54,439
Speaker 9: by the end of it. You know when Seattle at

1624
01:25:54,439 --> 01:25:55,920
Speaker 9: the end of the fourth quarter kind of separates.

1625
01:25:55,960 --> 01:25:58,600
Speaker 1: Okay, my only prediction for the Super Bowl, Matt, is

1626
01:25:58,640 --> 01:26:02,920
Speaker 1: this you ready? Yeah, a defensive player for Most Valuable Player.

1627
01:26:04,520 --> 01:26:10,040
Speaker 7: I'm here for we have Pat Cougan be the offensive

1628
01:26:10,120 --> 01:26:11,360
Speaker 7: Enbach in the Rose Bowl.

1629
01:26:11,439 --> 01:26:14,559
Speaker 1: That's right. This is the year. Okay, So tonight Alem

1630
01:26:14,600 --> 01:26:15,880
Speaker 1: Boyman Greenwood? Is that right?

1631
01:26:16,439 --> 01:26:17,439
Speaker 7: Yes? Seven o'clock?

1632
01:26:17,479 --> 01:26:19,720
Speaker 1: All right, appreciate it, Matt. We'll talk to you soon.

1633
01:26:20,240 --> 01:26:21,320
Speaker 7: All I appreciate you.

1634
01:26:21,560 --> 01:26:23,400
Speaker 1: Very cool, Matt Taylor, the voice of the Colts in

1635
01:26:23,479 --> 01:26:26,320
Speaker 1: Indiana Trivia for that matter, we come back, we will

1636
01:26:26,360 --> 01:26:30,679
Speaker 1: take a look again. NBA trade deadline clock is ticking.

1637
01:26:31,520 --> 01:26:35,679
Speaker 1: The sands are running through the hour glass, and yet

1638
01:26:35,720 --> 01:26:38,600
Speaker 1: we have yet or do we to have heard the

1639
01:26:38,640 --> 01:26:43,320
Speaker 1: Pacers name. We'll get back into it, Eddie, if you could,

1640
01:26:43,600 --> 01:26:51,960
Speaker 1: Eddie Garrison, Yes, start preparing for about seven minutes from now,

1641
01:26:53,200 --> 01:26:56,040
Speaker 1: a rehash of all of the trades so far that

1642
01:26:56,080 --> 01:26:59,640
Speaker 1: have taken place. Okay, because there are a couple of

1643
01:26:59,640 --> 01:27:02,680
Speaker 1: them that I think have some implication to the Pacers.

1644
01:27:02,840 --> 01:27:03,600
Speaker 2: Do you know who this is?

1645
01:27:03,680 --> 01:27:03,880
Speaker 8: Jake?

1646
01:27:06,320 --> 01:27:07,040
Speaker 7: Who that was?

1647
01:27:07,880 --> 01:27:15,080
Speaker 1: I played? Again? Am I gonna embarrass myself if I don't.

1648
01:27:15,120 --> 01:27:17,080
Speaker 1: I can give a couple of guesses. I would like

1649
01:27:17,160 --> 01:27:18,200
Speaker 1: you to give a couple of guesses.

1650
01:27:18,280 --> 01:27:21,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, it'd be nice.

1651
01:27:22,479 --> 01:27:24,479
Speaker 1: Okay, let me ask you on a one to ten scale.

1652
01:27:24,479 --> 01:27:26,720
Speaker 1: How obvious is it to somebody that is a fan

1653
01:27:26,760 --> 01:27:40,160
Speaker 1: of that genre? Probably a seven or eight. One more time. Now,

1654
01:27:40,240 --> 01:27:42,559
Speaker 1: I've not heard any of Bad Bunny. I know he's

1655
01:27:42,600 --> 01:27:45,240
Speaker 1: playing the halftime show, but I believe most of his

1656
01:27:46,280 --> 01:27:47,479
Speaker 1: he is mostly in Spanish.

1657
01:27:47,640 --> 01:27:50,000
Speaker 3: It is not that correct, That is not that Bunny.

1658
01:27:50,320 --> 01:27:53,320
Speaker 2: He was just announced that he is coming to Indianapolis

1659
01:27:53,760 --> 01:27:57,360
Speaker 2: this summer. He will be performing at Lucas Oil Stadium.

1660
01:27:57,880 --> 01:28:01,120
Speaker 2: That is Post Malone forming. I mean I should have

1661
01:28:01,160 --> 01:28:04,800
Speaker 2: known that Jelly Roll in Carter Faith Friday, June twelve.

1662
01:28:04,920 --> 01:28:08,160
Speaker 2: What's it at Post Malone? That was at like Olive

1663
01:28:08,200 --> 01:28:09,840
Speaker 2: Garden or was that Jelly Roll? It was one of

1664
01:28:09,880 --> 01:28:11,400
Speaker 2: those two, one of those two. But we do have

1665
01:28:11,400 --> 01:28:13,559
Speaker 2: a pair of tickets to give away, and I'm going

1666
01:28:13,600 --> 01:28:17,360
Speaker 2: to do this in trivia form. Okay, in connection to

1667
01:28:17,400 --> 01:28:23,240
Speaker 2: the Super Bowl. There have been five colleges in the

1668
01:28:23,280 --> 01:28:27,479
Speaker 2: history of the United States. This is the trivia question

1669
01:28:27,560 --> 01:28:31,120
Speaker 2: ever and a Super Bowl champion. Correct, just name one?

1670
01:28:32,200 --> 01:28:39,400
Speaker 2: You know one of them can be added this this weekend, perhaps, yeah, do.

1671
01:28:39,360 --> 01:28:40,559
Speaker 1: You only you only need one?

1672
01:28:41,240 --> 01:28:41,479
Speaker 7: Yeah?

1673
01:28:41,560 --> 01:28:42,080
Speaker 2: Just name one?

1674
01:28:43,840 --> 01:28:44,439
Speaker 3: What about this?

1675
01:28:47,320 --> 01:28:50,160
Speaker 1: After that, I'm going to ask you an additional question

1676
01:28:50,280 --> 01:28:52,640
Speaker 1: to that. Okay, so you get the answer, we'll give

1677
01:28:52,680 --> 01:28:54,880
Speaker 1: the answer. You take the calls right now, two nine, ten, seventy.

1678
01:28:54,920 --> 01:28:57,519
Speaker 2: We're doing this on the text line. Text line, yes,

1679
01:28:57,920 --> 01:28:59,840
Speaker 2: can you text seventy?

1680
01:29:00,439 --> 01:29:04,080
Speaker 1: So text your answer one of the five schools to

1681
01:29:04,160 --> 01:29:07,600
Speaker 1: have produced both a Super Bowl winning quarterback and a

1682
01:29:07,720 --> 01:29:11,360
Speaker 1: US president. And then I'm going to double down a

1683
01:29:11,439 --> 01:29:15,280
Speaker 1: question for Eddie based on that, and we will recap

1684
01:29:15,600 --> 01:29:20,479
Speaker 1: the NBA trade deadline next. Okay, do we have a

1685
01:29:20,520 --> 01:29:25,320
Speaker 1: correct answer, Eddie? Yes? Who chimed in?

1686
01:29:26,520 --> 01:29:28,920
Speaker 2: I'm sifting through because we still got some after but

1687
01:29:29,000 --> 01:29:32,320
Speaker 2: we had three different people text, all first time texters.

1688
01:29:32,479 --> 01:29:35,120
Speaker 3: Okay, So yes, okay.

1689
01:29:35,160 --> 01:29:38,479
Speaker 1: So the question of course being the five universities, and

1690
01:29:38,560 --> 01:29:41,360
Speaker 1: there is the potential this year that could happen again

1691
01:29:42,040 --> 01:29:44,559
Speaker 1: that have produced a US president and a Super Bowl

1692
01:29:44,600 --> 01:29:52,040
Speaker 1: winning quarterback. Of those, Eddie, here is my question for you.

1693
01:29:52,040 --> 01:29:55,160
Speaker 1: You ready, yep? What do all of the presidents have

1694
01:29:55,280 --> 01:30:00,240
Speaker 1: in common? In said answer, which includes James Polk who

1695
01:30:00,240 --> 01:30:04,519
Speaker 1: could be added to the list should Drake maywin. What

1696
01:30:04,680 --> 01:30:07,040
Speaker 1: do all of the presidents have in common that are

1697
01:30:07,080 --> 01:30:08,120
Speaker 1: involved in this answer?

1698
01:30:11,320 --> 01:30:14,280
Speaker 2: They're worthal within the last fifteen years, their last fifteen presidents.

1699
01:30:14,320 --> 01:30:15,160
Speaker 2: I have no idea.

1700
01:30:15,280 --> 01:30:17,440
Speaker 3: No, they're all one term presidents.

1701
01:30:17,560 --> 01:30:22,479
Speaker 1: Oh, okay, Now, of the schools, only one of them

1702
01:30:22,520 --> 01:30:26,880
Speaker 1: has produced two Super Bowl winning quarterbacks? Which school I

1703
01:30:26,920 --> 01:30:27,240
Speaker 1: do know?

1704
01:30:27,280 --> 01:30:30,759
Speaker 2: This one? That's Stanford, correct, Jim Plunkett and John Elway.

1705
01:30:30,920 --> 01:30:35,400
Speaker 1: And by the way, Jim Plunkett is the only quarterback

1706
01:30:35,439 --> 01:30:38,759
Speaker 1: in NFL history to have multiple Super Bowl winning starts

1707
01:30:38,840 --> 01:30:41,879
Speaker 1: and not be in the Hall of Fame. Eli Manning,

1708
01:30:42,479 --> 01:30:44,880
Speaker 1: of course is eligible, and it doesn't look like it

1709
01:30:44,960 --> 01:30:47,160
Speaker 1: is going to get in this year. We find out tonight.

1710
01:30:47,200 --> 01:30:48,320
Speaker 1: That answer correct.

1711
01:30:48,400 --> 01:30:51,080
Speaker 2: That is correct. And if you're wondering what those five

1712
01:30:51,120 --> 01:30:55,320
Speaker 2: colleges are Delaware with Joe Biden and Joe Flacco, Michigan,

1713
01:30:55,400 --> 01:30:58,840
Speaker 2: Gerald Ford and Tom Brady, the Naval Academy, Jimmy Carter

1714
01:30:58,920 --> 01:31:02,880
Speaker 2: and Roger Staubach. Stanford has already been mentioned, the President

1715
01:31:03,160 --> 01:31:07,439
Speaker 2: quarter Herbert Hoover guests, and then Miami of Ohio Benjamin

1716
01:31:07,479 --> 01:31:09,720
Speaker 2: Harrison and Ben Roethlisberger.

1717
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Speaker 1: Okay, Eddie, do you have before you the list of

1718
01:31:13,000 --> 01:31:15,799
Speaker 1: trades that have taken place so far at the NBA

1719
01:31:15,880 --> 01:31:19,160
Speaker 1: trade deadline, which is now within its final hour. And

1720
01:31:19,200 --> 01:31:21,639
Speaker 1: if you are just joining us, Ben Matheren is still

1721
01:31:21,640 --> 01:31:24,920
Speaker 1: a member of the Pacers and the Pacers themselves have

1722
01:31:25,120 --> 01:31:27,439
Speaker 1: not yet been involved in any trade.

1723
01:31:27,520 --> 01:31:30,040
Speaker 2: I do yeah, Pacers are like one of four teams

1724
01:31:30,040 --> 01:31:32,040
Speaker 2: that have yet to make a trade. It's the Pacers

1725
01:31:32,800 --> 01:31:34,800
Speaker 2: Nuggets in the heat. I'm trying to forget who the

1726
01:31:34,800 --> 01:31:37,519
Speaker 2: other team is, but that is where we stand right

1727
01:31:37,520 --> 01:31:40,000
Speaker 2: now in terms of deals that have been made today.

1728
01:31:40,200 --> 01:31:45,280
Speaker 2: On Thursday, the fifth of February, Luke Canard was traded

1729
01:31:45,280 --> 01:31:48,439
Speaker 2: from the Los Angeles Lakers to the Atlanta Hawks, and

1730
01:31:48,600 --> 01:31:52,600
Speaker 2: the Lakers also sent Atlanta a second round pick. In

1731
01:31:52,640 --> 01:31:55,640
Speaker 2: the year of twenty thirty two, the Bucks made a

1732
01:31:55,640 --> 01:31:59,280
Speaker 2: trade and it did not involve Gianni's Antetokumpo seems very

1733
01:31:59,400 --> 01:32:02,320
Speaker 2: very likely at this point, as the Bucks have started

1734
01:32:03,000 --> 01:32:06,599
Speaker 2: to operate other trades, that Giannis will not be moved now,

1735
01:32:06,640 --> 01:32:09,439
Speaker 2: and it appears that they're going to try to rebuild

1736
01:32:09,439 --> 01:32:12,360
Speaker 2: the team around Giannis once again this offseason. Is pro

1737
01:32:12,439 --> 01:32:17,120
Speaker 2: Sham Sharania of of ESPN. The Bucks trade that happened

1738
01:32:17,160 --> 01:32:21,280
Speaker 2: earlier today. They acquired center Nick Richards and Ford Nigel

1739
01:32:21,439 --> 01:32:26,200
Speaker 2: Hayes Davis from Phoenix, and the Suns acquired Cole Anthony

1740
01:32:26,240 --> 01:32:29,160
Speaker 2: and Amir Coffee. And the latest trade, this one happened

1741
01:32:29,400 --> 01:32:31,759
Speaker 2: when we had Tony East on the program during twelve thirty.

1742
01:32:32,439 --> 01:32:35,400
Speaker 2: The New York Knicks acquired Jose Alvarado from the New

1743
01:32:35,520 --> 01:32:38,600
Speaker 2: Orleans Pelicans. Dale and Terry Who's down been traded I

1744
01:32:38,600 --> 01:32:41,000
Speaker 2: think three times in the last forty eight hours and

1745
01:32:41,120 --> 01:32:44,000
Speaker 2: two second round picks and cash considerations.

1746
01:32:44,640 --> 01:32:47,200
Speaker 1: Now, Chicago made a move yesterday, right.

1747
01:32:47,000 --> 01:32:50,040
Speaker 2: Oh, forgot the other one from Chicago today, Io do

1748
01:32:50,200 --> 01:32:53,000
Speaker 2: soon move? This morning was traded from the Chicago Bulls

1749
01:32:53,360 --> 01:32:58,479
Speaker 2: to the Minnesota Timberwolves. The Timberwolve sent Rob Dillingham, who

1750
01:32:58,560 --> 01:33:01,920
Speaker 2: was a former I think lottery pick last year with

1751
01:33:02,120 --> 01:33:05,920
Speaker 2: Minnesota Leonard Miller a twenty twenty six second round pick,

1752
01:33:05,960 --> 01:33:08,920
Speaker 2: twenty seven second round pick, thirty one second round pick,

1753
01:33:09,280 --> 01:33:11,000
Speaker 2: and thirty two second round pick.

1754
01:33:11,760 --> 01:33:14,920
Speaker 1: The reason I brought that up is because that was

1755
01:33:15,000 --> 01:33:19,240
Speaker 1: one player that was rumored to Sumo to be possibly

1756
01:33:19,280 --> 01:33:20,480
Speaker 1: linked to Indiana.

1757
01:33:20,600 --> 01:33:22,759
Speaker 2: Right, that was yesterday with Jake Fisher, but we didn't

1758
01:33:23,320 --> 01:33:26,200
Speaker 2: fully know Jake of how recent that said rumor was,

1759
01:33:26,280 --> 01:33:30,720
Speaker 2: and today it's been a monitoring of Daniel Gafford with

1760
01:33:31,160 --> 01:33:36,799
Speaker 2: the Dallas Mavericks and Visa subots with the Los Angeles Clippers,

1761
01:33:36,800 --> 01:33:39,880
Speaker 2: and Brian Winhorse of ESPN saying that the return for

1762
01:33:40,120 --> 01:33:42,720
Speaker 2: Zubots is probably going to be more than what the

1763
01:33:43,000 --> 01:33:46,840
Speaker 2: Washington Wizards gave up to acquire Anthony Davis. So take

1764
01:33:46,880 --> 01:33:50,920
Speaker 2: that as you will. Although Anthony davison't really not Dallas

1765
01:33:51,000 --> 01:33:53,720
Speaker 2: much other than a couple first rounders. But that's about it,

1766
01:33:54,280 --> 01:33:54,760
Speaker 2: by the way.

1767
01:33:55,360 --> 01:34:00,280
Speaker 1: On one side note, speaking of movement, I'm not going

1768
01:34:00,320 --> 01:34:03,800
Speaker 1: to name the name of the company, but let me

1769
01:34:03,840 --> 01:34:06,960
Speaker 1: ask you this question real quick. I've mentioned this before.

1770
01:34:07,960 --> 01:34:14,760
Speaker 1: There's a very popular online shopping business that it used

1771
01:34:14,800 --> 01:34:18,559
Speaker 1: to be that you could pay for like membership within

1772
01:34:18,800 --> 01:34:21,920
Speaker 1: said business, and when you did so, it came with

1773
01:34:22,560 --> 01:34:26,920
Speaker 1: an immediate accelerated shipping feature.

1774
01:34:28,360 --> 01:34:30,679
Speaker 3: That seems to have gone by the wayside. That's completely

1775
01:34:30,680 --> 01:34:31,360
Speaker 3: food bar now.

1776
01:34:31,680 --> 01:34:35,799
Speaker 1: So now even with that, when you buy an item

1777
01:34:35,880 --> 01:34:43,720
Speaker 1: you can pay additional for expediated shipment. I can't tell

1778
01:34:43,760 --> 01:34:46,280
Speaker 1: you the last time that an item arrived, and I

1779
01:34:46,280 --> 01:34:50,639
Speaker 1: don't shop online a lot, but am I the only one.

1780
01:34:50,760 --> 01:34:55,080
Speaker 1: I'm beginning to think I'm cursed every single time I

1781
01:34:55,200 --> 01:34:58,240
Speaker 1: order something, I then get a thing where it's like

1782
01:34:58,560 --> 01:35:01,200
Speaker 1: now arriving on in July.

1783
01:35:01,960 --> 01:35:04,439
Speaker 3: What in the world if I.

1784
01:35:04,560 --> 01:35:10,000
Speaker 1: Paid additional even though I'm a subscriber to said service.

1785
01:35:11,320 --> 01:35:16,599
Speaker 1: If I paid additional to get something because I needed

1786
01:35:16,600 --> 01:35:19,880
Speaker 1: it in a short timeframe, which is not common, but

1787
01:35:20,520 --> 01:35:23,720
Speaker 1: that happens from time to time. If they are presenting

1788
01:35:23,800 --> 01:35:26,439
Speaker 1: me the option, Hey, for just a few dollars extra,

1789
01:35:26,880 --> 01:35:30,599
Speaker 1: we can have this to you by noon tomorrow and

1790
01:35:30,680 --> 01:35:34,280
Speaker 1: I pay that. Okay, that sounds good. If you're offering that,

1791
01:35:34,360 --> 01:35:36,320
Speaker 1: then yes, I will take that option. I'll pay you

1792
01:35:36,360 --> 01:35:39,880
Speaker 1: the additional money in addition to the subscription costs that

1793
01:35:39,920 --> 01:35:42,519
Speaker 1: I pay that used to do this automatically, but now

1794
01:35:42,560 --> 01:35:45,160
Speaker 1: I'll pay on top of what I pay. If I

1795
01:35:45,240 --> 01:35:47,040
Speaker 1: do that, and then I just get a thing that says,

1796
01:35:47,080 --> 01:35:49,600
Speaker 1: by the way, this now will be to you tomorrow

1797
01:35:49,640 --> 01:35:53,360
Speaker 1: by six pm, should I not be refunded the money

1798
01:35:53,360 --> 01:35:54,320
Speaker 1: that I paid for the overnight.

1799
01:35:54,360 --> 01:35:57,640
Speaker 2: I agree with you. It's a greape that I have

1800
01:35:57,720 --> 01:35:59,880
Speaker 2: to with some businesses.

1801
01:36:00,360 --> 01:36:04,640
Speaker 1: Am I the only one that now the benefit and

1802
01:36:04,680 --> 01:36:07,439
Speaker 1: the convenience of it is no longer because every single

1803
01:36:07,479 --> 01:36:09,960
Speaker 1: time that I order it, just well, when we can

1804
01:36:10,040 --> 01:36:10,760
Speaker 1: get it, we will.

1805
01:36:13,160 --> 01:36:15,840
Speaker 3: I mean, are you offering this or not? Am I

1806
01:36:15,920 --> 01:36:16,519
Speaker 3: off base here?

1807
01:36:16,520 --> 01:36:16,800
Speaker 1: Ready?

1808
01:36:16,880 --> 01:36:18,519
Speaker 2: No, you're not. You're not off base at all. I

1809
01:36:18,560 --> 01:36:20,160
Speaker 2: agree with you wholehardily.

1810
01:36:20,800 --> 01:36:22,080
Speaker 3: Every single time.

1811
01:36:22,240 --> 01:36:24,400
Speaker 2: I mean, you're paying for the you know, the product

1812
01:36:24,400 --> 01:36:31,799
Speaker 2: to be there, you know, tomorrow, and it's not there. Okay.

1813
01:36:32,200 --> 01:36:37,760
Speaker 1: So here's my thought on the trade deadline, and I

1814
01:36:37,840 --> 01:36:42,639
Speaker 1: mentioned it earlier. I think something interesting happened last year

1815
01:36:45,400 --> 01:36:48,439
Speaker 1: and maybe this has slowly been taking place, but I

1816
01:36:48,479 --> 01:36:55,120
Speaker 1: think we're starting to see it now. Everything in the NBA.

1817
01:36:55,280 --> 01:36:57,840
Speaker 1: The NBA is a league of cycles, so too is

1818
01:36:57,880 --> 01:37:00,120
Speaker 1: the NFL. So to is major league all of it.

1819
01:37:00,120 --> 01:37:05,559
Speaker 1: It's all copycat league stuff. I get it, and I

1820
01:37:05,760 --> 01:37:09,840
Speaker 1: do push back a little bit on the narrative or

1821
01:37:09,880 --> 01:37:17,080
Speaker 1: the popular sentiment when Lebron and Wade and Bosh all

1822
01:37:17,120 --> 01:37:20,200
Speaker 1: went to Miami and yeah, it was pretty tired, and

1823
01:37:20,240 --> 01:37:22,559
Speaker 1: the whole how much are we going to win? Not five,

1824
01:37:22,640 --> 01:37:27,880
Speaker 1: not six, not seven? I get it, And that began

1825
01:37:27,920 --> 01:37:32,040
Speaker 1: to rub people the wrong way, and that changed a

1826
01:37:32,080 --> 01:37:36,559
Speaker 1: lot of the way the NBA was perceived, And at

1827
01:37:36,560 --> 01:37:40,120
Speaker 1: that time, I really felt like we had entered into

1828
01:37:40,400 --> 01:37:43,360
Speaker 1: a new era that we could never go back from.

1829
01:37:44,160 --> 01:37:47,000
Speaker 1: And it's the AAU influence. And allow me to explain

1830
01:37:47,000 --> 01:37:51,759
Speaker 1: what I mean in AAU basketball. You know, I remember

1831
01:37:51,800 --> 01:37:55,759
Speaker 1: when I was a basketball player and played in high school,

1832
01:37:55,800 --> 01:37:58,719
Speaker 1: and I was a fringe player, but I had friends

1833
01:37:58,720 --> 01:38:04,559
Speaker 1: that were very good players. And I remember Indie North

1834
01:38:04,640 --> 01:38:07,799
Speaker 1: Side in nineteen eighty seven, they were the national champions.

1835
01:38:07,840 --> 01:38:10,160
Speaker 1: They went to Seattle and they won the AAU National

1836
01:38:10,240 --> 01:38:18,320
Speaker 1: Championship and they were as they won, moving along the way.

1837
01:38:18,360 --> 01:38:21,120
Speaker 1: By the time they got to the Nationals. It was

1838
01:38:21,160 --> 01:38:25,240
Speaker 1: a team that was basically an all star makeup of

1839
01:38:25,560 --> 01:38:29,080
Speaker 1: the different teams with n an AAU league in Indianapolis.

1840
01:38:29,479 --> 01:38:37,040
Speaker 1: So if the Riverside team knocked out Wheeler, they picked

1841
01:38:37,080 --> 01:38:38,680
Speaker 1: up Wheeler's best player, and they're like, hey, do you

1842
01:38:38,680 --> 01:38:40,519
Speaker 1: want to come with us now? When we go onto

1843
01:38:40,680 --> 01:38:44,799
Speaker 1: the and play Michigan City And then they beat Michigan

1844
01:38:44,800 --> 01:38:46,840
Speaker 1: City and Michigan City has one player, like we're going

1845
01:38:46,880 --> 01:38:48,800
Speaker 1: to State or you know, we're going do you want

1846
01:38:48,800 --> 01:38:51,759
Speaker 1: to come with us? So you pick up players along

1847
01:38:51,760 --> 01:38:56,559
Speaker 1: the way. And I always go back to the movie

1848
01:38:56,560 --> 01:38:59,599
Speaker 1: Hoop Dreams as well, which was my high school graduating class.

1849
01:39:00,120 --> 01:39:02,840
Speaker 1: And in that movie Hoop Dreams was the documentary about

1850
01:39:02,960 --> 01:39:08,439
Speaker 1: basketball recruiting. They show a bunch of kids eating pizza

1851
01:39:08,600 --> 01:39:11,280
Speaker 1: in the dormitories of the Nike Yell American Camp. Actually

1852
01:39:11,280 --> 01:39:13,240
Speaker 1: it might have been five Star. Back then it was

1853
01:39:13,640 --> 01:39:16,479
Speaker 1: ABC five Star and Nike Yell American Camp. Those are

1854
01:39:16,479 --> 01:39:23,400
Speaker 1: the big camps, and it was Juwan Howard and Jalen

1855
01:39:23,479 --> 01:39:26,680
Speaker 1: Rose and like they're all eating pizza. Alan Henderson might

1856
01:39:26,680 --> 01:39:30,439
Speaker 1: have been there. Chris Webber my high school graduating class.

1857
01:39:30,840 --> 01:39:35,280
Speaker 1: But that was the beginning of Then you saw the

1858
01:39:35,360 --> 01:39:43,960
Speaker 1: Fab five, Ray Jackson, Jimmy King from Texas, Juwan Howard

1859
01:39:44,280 --> 01:39:47,559
Speaker 1: from the Chicagoland area, Chris Webber, Jalen Rose from Detroit,

1860
01:39:47,960 --> 01:39:50,320
Speaker 1: all going together to Michigan. And I remember at that

1861
01:39:50,400 --> 01:39:55,559
Speaker 1: time thinking to myself, this Michigan roster was accumulated over

1862
01:39:55,600 --> 01:39:59,040
Speaker 1: the course of the summer camps where these guys all

1863
01:39:59,040 --> 01:40:02,160
Speaker 1: got to know each other understandably, and it's cool. It's

1864
01:40:02,200 --> 01:40:04,240
Speaker 1: not a bad thing. But you get to know guys

1865
01:40:04,280 --> 01:40:06,760
Speaker 1: from different parts of the country or different cities, and

1866
01:40:06,800 --> 01:40:11,280
Speaker 1: then you get the aau mentality of yes, I know

1867
01:40:11,320 --> 01:40:16,799
Speaker 1: these guys because I play against them, but also because

1868
01:40:16,800 --> 01:40:19,280
Speaker 1: we knocked them out or they knocked me out, and

1869
01:40:19,320 --> 01:40:23,960
Speaker 1: then I joined forces with them. So the mentality of

1870
01:40:26,840 --> 01:40:30,320
Speaker 1: combining forces as opposed to going back into the lab

1871
01:40:30,360 --> 01:40:34,240
Speaker 1: and coming back in next year to improve that much

1872
01:40:34,280 --> 01:40:38,960
Speaker 1: more was embedded. And all of that was during the

1873
01:40:38,960 --> 01:40:41,720
Speaker 1: time that Michael Jordan was building a dynasty with the

1874
01:40:41,720 --> 01:40:45,280
Speaker 1: Bulls and coming off of the dynasty of the Larry

1875
01:40:45,320 --> 01:40:49,840
Speaker 1: Bird Celtics and the Magic Johnson Lakers. And it's very

1876
01:40:49,880 --> 01:40:52,519
Speaker 1: easy for us to go back and look at that

1877
01:40:52,680 --> 01:40:56,559
Speaker 1: era and say, see, guys don't have the toughness of Jordan,

1878
01:40:58,479 --> 01:41:03,920
Speaker 1: Guys don't have the toughness of Bird and Magic. Well,

1879
01:41:04,320 --> 01:41:08,160
Speaker 1: there's some truth to that, but let's also not forget

1880
01:41:09,439 --> 01:41:13,599
Speaker 1: that Magic walked into a situation where arguably the greatest

1881
01:41:13,640 --> 01:41:16,000
Speaker 1: player in the history of the game was already on the.

1882
01:41:15,960 --> 01:41:17,879
Speaker 3: Floor in Kareem as a teammate.

1883
01:41:19,680 --> 01:41:24,840
Speaker 1: They they two years later drafted James Worthy number one

1884
01:41:24,880 --> 01:41:28,360
Speaker 1: overall out of Carolina, who's a Hall of Fame player.

1885
01:41:29,560 --> 01:41:31,840
Speaker 1: They already had, you know, Jamal Wilkes, who had been

1886
01:41:31,840 --> 01:41:37,800
Speaker 1: a dynamic college player, and you know, Bob McAdoo was there,

1887
01:41:37,840 --> 01:41:42,400
Speaker 1: who was an unbelievable NBA veteran and in Larry Bird's case,

1888
01:41:42,520 --> 01:41:45,120
Speaker 1: you know he goes into Boston. Sure, but they'd made

1889
01:41:45,200 --> 01:41:48,120
Speaker 1: the trade also to acquire Kevin McHale, and they had

1890
01:41:48,200 --> 01:41:53,439
Speaker 1: Robert Parrish. And you know, Dennis Johnson was an unbelievable player,

1891
01:41:53,520 --> 01:41:55,439
Speaker 1: Larry Bird says, one of the best he ever played with.

1892
01:41:55,680 --> 01:41:58,000
Speaker 1: Bill Walton, who was a legendary player, was in the

1893
01:41:58,040 --> 01:42:00,800
Speaker 1: twilight of his career, but they acquired him. They had

1894
01:42:00,920 --> 01:42:05,040
Speaker 1: mL Carr and Cornbread Maxwell. They had really solid pieces already.

1895
01:42:06,760 --> 01:42:10,360
Speaker 1: And in Jordan's case when he was a younger player

1896
01:42:10,360 --> 01:42:14,639
Speaker 1: for Doug Collins. Yes, you can sit there and say

1897
01:42:14,800 --> 01:42:21,519
Speaker 1: Jordan didn't didn't go out and ring Chase, correct, but

1898
01:42:21,680 --> 01:42:26,439
Speaker 1: he did, Yes, Eddie.

1899
01:42:26,600 --> 01:42:30,000
Speaker 2: The Indiana Pacers have their center. According to Chris Haynes

1900
01:42:30,040 --> 01:42:33,680
Speaker 2: that Los Angeles Clippers are treating Ivisa subots to the

1901
01:42:33,760 --> 01:42:35,000
Speaker 2: Indiana Pacers.

1902
01:42:35,320 --> 01:42:37,720
Speaker 3: Does it say who Indiana is sending not yet.

1903
01:42:37,760 --> 01:42:40,679
Speaker 2: Sean Schernia just tweeted it out with the graphic two

1904
01:42:40,680 --> 01:42:44,640
Speaker 2: of zubots in a Pacers uniform. The return has not

1905
01:42:44,640 --> 01:42:45,160
Speaker 2: been announced.

1906
01:42:45,160 --> 01:42:47,200
Speaker 1: Okay, that is a massive get and I'm gonna get

1907
01:42:47,200 --> 01:42:48,160
Speaker 1: to that in a second. But what I was going

1908
01:42:48,200 --> 01:42:50,599
Speaker 1: to say is is Jordan did go out and request

1909
01:42:50,640 --> 01:42:53,519
Speaker 1: for other players to come there to join forces with him.

1910
01:42:54,000 --> 01:42:58,000
Speaker 1: And now what we are seeing. So in other words,

1911
01:42:58,479 --> 01:43:01,680
Speaker 1: Jordan was Don't get me wrong, but the narrative that

1912
01:43:01,760 --> 01:43:04,040
Speaker 1: Jordan just sat and dealt with who was there for

1913
01:43:04,120 --> 01:43:07,240
Speaker 1: him not totally accurate. In his second run, he had

1914
01:43:07,280 --> 01:43:09,479
Speaker 1: the greatest rebounder, the best European player. I mean, he

1915
01:43:09,520 --> 01:43:12,200
Speaker 1: had other great players around him, much of which he

1916
01:43:12,320 --> 01:43:15,479
Speaker 1: used his influence to get. But then we got into

1917
01:43:16,040 --> 01:43:19,760
Speaker 1: the now, the aau era of NBA that began with

1918
01:43:19,880 --> 01:43:25,600
Speaker 1: Lebron and the building of the super teams. And I

1919
01:43:25,760 --> 01:43:29,040
Speaker 1: wondered as I was watching last year with Indiana, after

1920
01:43:29,080 --> 01:43:33,840
Speaker 1: we'd seen the era of the super teams being built

1921
01:43:34,120 --> 01:43:38,040
Speaker 1: and the combining forces of all star players and the

1922
01:43:38,080 --> 01:43:41,639
Speaker 1: two headed monsters and three head of monsters. And if

1923
01:43:41,640 --> 01:43:45,559
Speaker 1: you look at last year's conference finals, I mean, you

1924
01:43:45,600 --> 01:43:49,920
Speaker 1: have New York Karl Anthony Towns is a star, but

1925
01:43:50,040 --> 01:43:53,200
Speaker 1: Jalen Brunson is you know, they Josh Hart, I mean,

1926
01:43:53,360 --> 01:43:56,960
Speaker 1: they used the Villanova pieces, but they were a true team,

1927
01:43:57,320 --> 01:44:00,840
Speaker 1: some better than the individualized parts. The same was true

1928
01:44:00,880 --> 01:44:04,240
Speaker 1: of what Indiana built. And you wonder if some of

1929
01:44:04,280 --> 01:44:07,800
Speaker 1: the trade deadline movement and the lack of seeing the

1930
01:44:07,800 --> 01:44:13,160
Speaker 1: combination of big time forces. If that was not the

1931
01:44:13,760 --> 01:44:18,519
Speaker 1: result of a copycat league in teams, seeing what happens

1932
01:44:18,520 --> 01:44:23,759
Speaker 1: when you have true solidarity of a team. Now, as

1933
01:44:23,880 --> 01:44:31,960
Speaker 1: for what Indiana appears to have just landed, this is

1934
01:44:32,240 --> 01:44:37,040
Speaker 1: a big time get. This is a very very very

1935
01:44:37,040 --> 01:44:42,439
Speaker 1: good player who's twenty eight years old, and as a

1936
01:44:42,479 --> 01:44:45,439
Speaker 1: seven two and forty pound guy, he does not have

1937
01:44:46,560 --> 01:44:50,120
Speaker 1: I don't think the fluidity and the range of motion

1938
01:44:50,240 --> 01:44:52,559
Speaker 1: that you had with Miles Turner. And I don't mean

1939
01:44:53,040 --> 01:44:55,240
Speaker 1: to compare everything to Miles Turner, but if you look

1940
01:44:55,280 --> 01:44:58,720
Speaker 1: at Indiana a year ago, and you look at that

1941
01:44:58,920 --> 01:45:01,360
Speaker 1: team that was a half away from winning the NBA title,

1942
01:45:02,920 --> 01:45:05,479
Speaker 1: so much of that, as we've talked about a lot

1943
01:45:05,600 --> 01:45:09,280
Speaker 1: on this program, was based on, and a big part

1944
01:45:09,320 --> 01:45:12,960
Speaker 1: of that was in fact Miles Turner and his ability

1945
01:45:13,000 --> 01:45:16,960
Speaker 1: to rim protect and then of course, going the other way,

1946
01:45:17,080 --> 01:45:23,000
Speaker 1: his outside shooting ability. Zubach as increased with each and

1947
01:45:23,040 --> 01:45:25,439
Speaker 1: every year. He is coming off his best year as

1948
01:45:25,439 --> 01:45:28,600
Speaker 1: a pro, where he averaged seventeen a game, but most importantly,

1949
01:45:28,880 --> 01:45:30,040
Speaker 1: thirteen boards a game.

1950
01:45:30,720 --> 01:45:33,160
Speaker 2: The game I will always remember with if Visa Zubats.

1951
01:45:33,240 --> 01:45:36,920
Speaker 2: Jake is he almost had a thirty and thirty against

1952
01:45:36,920 --> 01:45:40,680
Speaker 2: the Pacers, thirty points and thirty rebounds, like it was

1953
01:45:40,720 --> 01:45:44,960
Speaker 2: some crazy game where he had He finished with twenty nine.

1954
01:45:45,120 --> 01:45:47,120
Speaker 2: And he's a really good screener.

1955
01:45:47,840 --> 01:45:49,280
Speaker 1: He can I think he'll.

1956
01:45:49,920 --> 01:45:52,400
Speaker 2: Kaitlin Cooper highlighted this in one of her pieces that

1957
01:45:52,439 --> 01:45:55,360
Speaker 2: she's put out on basketball. She wrote that there are

1958
01:45:55,400 --> 01:45:57,479
Speaker 2: different ways that zubats can help space the floor. It

1959
01:45:57,520 --> 01:45:59,760
Speaker 2: doesn't Also, it doesn't necessarily mean you have to be

1960
01:45:59,760 --> 01:46:02,599
Speaker 2: a point shooter. But we're still kind of waiting on

1961
01:46:02,800 --> 01:46:06,240
Speaker 2: what the return that the Clippers got. But you'd have

1962
01:46:06,320 --> 01:46:08,920
Speaker 2: to factor or assume that Matherin is involved in some way,

1963
01:46:08,960 --> 01:46:09,880
Speaker 2: shape or form, right.

1964
01:46:10,560 --> 01:46:13,280
Speaker 1: It wouldn't surprise me ify Isaiah Jackson's also involved.

1965
01:46:13,360 --> 01:46:16,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, because obviously you have to salary match, and I

1966
01:46:16,120 --> 01:46:20,639
Speaker 2: don't think Matherin's contract is enough to get you Visa

1967
01:46:20,720 --> 01:46:23,080
Speaker 2: Zobots and the other You're going to have to give

1968
01:46:23,120 --> 01:46:24,559
Speaker 2: up some sort of first round picks.

1969
01:46:24,600 --> 01:46:25,320
Speaker 1: Is it one?

1970
01:46:25,439 --> 01:46:25,840
Speaker 3: Is it two?

1971
01:46:25,920 --> 01:46:26,320
Speaker 2: Is the three?

1972
01:46:26,400 --> 01:46:28,800
Speaker 1: What are the numbers? Did they protect us?

1973
01:46:28,800 --> 01:46:32,160
Speaker 2: Tony East earlier mentioned he goes would the Pacers consider

1974
01:46:32,560 --> 01:46:35,000
Speaker 2: offering up that twenty six first round pick. But you

1975
01:46:35,040 --> 01:46:38,040
Speaker 2: know it's top six protected. That's all to be determined

1976
01:46:38,040 --> 01:46:38,880
Speaker 2: here as we wait.

1977
01:46:40,040 --> 01:46:44,360
Speaker 1: I would imagine, here, here's the thing, And I'm it's

1978
01:46:44,479 --> 01:46:47,320
Speaker 1: dangerous to say this when we made two minutes from

1979
01:46:47,320 --> 01:46:54,439
Speaker 1: now find out otherwise, right, But I will tell you this.

1980
01:46:54,600 --> 01:47:01,240
Speaker 1: I had a conversation with somebody several months ago and

1981
01:47:01,280 --> 01:47:09,240
Speaker 1: said it would be my prediction or understanding that Ben

1982
01:47:09,320 --> 01:47:14,439
Speaker 1: Mathern would be used as a piece to acquire your

1983
01:47:14,560 --> 01:47:19,360
Speaker 1: starting center of the future, and the draft would then

1984
01:47:19,439 --> 01:47:24,519
Speaker 1: be used to acquire the replacement for Ben Matheren. And

1985
01:47:24,560 --> 01:47:28,000
Speaker 1: the reason I said that, as I've said before, is

1986
01:47:28,040 --> 01:47:31,760
Speaker 1: because I believe, and I think people with influence of

1987
01:47:31,800 --> 01:47:35,840
Speaker 1: the Pacers believe, that the center position is one that

1988
01:47:35,960 --> 01:47:41,200
Speaker 1: requires the most growth and is the position that at

1989
01:47:41,200 --> 01:47:48,720
Speaker 1: the NBA level needs the most time to develop. So

1990
01:47:48,760 --> 01:47:50,680
Speaker 1: you can't just go out and draft a guy at

1991
01:47:50,720 --> 01:47:54,479
Speaker 1: center and have him ready to go. But the wing

1992
01:47:55,160 --> 01:48:03,559
Speaker 1: requires less growing time. You know, the wing position, there's

1993
01:48:03,640 --> 01:48:09,240
Speaker 1: less acclimation period necessary, and so you can replace Matherin

1994
01:48:09,400 --> 01:48:11,280
Speaker 1: more easily through the draft than you.

1995
01:48:11,280 --> 01:48:11,920
Speaker 3: Can a center.

1996
01:48:12,280 --> 01:48:18,040
Speaker 1: And when I made that observation to someone of influence

1997
01:48:18,240 --> 01:48:22,760
Speaker 1: with the Pacers, they simply said, yeah, I think that's

1998
01:48:22,800 --> 01:48:26,479
Speaker 1: probably a very accurate and astute, you know statement. It

1999
01:48:26,520 --> 01:48:29,880
Speaker 1: wasn't an original one, but you know, it led me

2000
01:48:30,000 --> 01:48:35,360
Speaker 1: to believe that the Pacers are looking at this year's draft,

2001
01:48:35,960 --> 01:48:40,600
Speaker 1: which up front of it is a very wing loaded draft,

2002
01:48:42,479 --> 01:48:45,880
Speaker 1: and therefore, Eddie, it would stun me if they move

2003
01:48:45,960 --> 01:48:48,799
Speaker 1: away from what they think I think is a major

2004
01:48:48,920 --> 01:48:51,240
Speaker 1: coup that they have sitting in their hands, and that's

2005
01:48:51,280 --> 01:48:54,720
Speaker 1: that draft pick. I think the Pacers and I may

2006
01:48:54,760 --> 01:48:58,800
Speaker 1: be totally proven wrong here, but I would be stunned

2007
01:48:58,880 --> 01:49:03,880
Speaker 1: if this deal in a pick as well as an

2008
01:49:03,920 --> 01:49:05,120
Speaker 1: active member of the roster.

2009
01:49:05,439 --> 01:49:09,880
Speaker 2: Jake Fisher with the Steinline reporting that Benedict Matheren is

2010
01:49:09,960 --> 01:49:14,639
Speaker 2: going to the Clippers a part of this deal for visa.

2011
01:49:14,720 --> 01:49:18,920
Speaker 2: Zubots still haven't heard anything else outside of what the

2012
01:49:18,960 --> 01:49:19,960
Speaker 2: Pacers are giving up.

2013
01:49:21,080 --> 01:49:21,240
Speaker 7: Now.

2014
01:49:21,240 --> 01:49:23,720
Speaker 2: It's interesting, Jake, because the Pacers are having practiced right

2015
01:49:23,720 --> 01:49:25,639
Speaker 2: now over at the Ascension Saint Vincent Center.

2016
01:49:29,280 --> 01:49:33,800
Speaker 1: Okay, eighteen million a year is what Zubots right now

2017
01:49:33,920 --> 01:49:37,840
Speaker 1: Zubots is making. He is contractually bound. We'll see how

2018
01:49:37,920 --> 01:49:40,599
Speaker 1: much longer he has on his deal. He is signed

2019
01:49:41,200 --> 01:49:44,080
Speaker 1: and already, by the way, he is already listed on

2020
01:49:44,280 --> 01:49:51,439
Speaker 1: sport rack as an Indiana pacer, and he will have

2021
01:49:53,600 --> 01:49:56,160
Speaker 1: three years left on his deal. He will be an

2022
01:49:56,240 --> 01:49:59,599
Speaker 1: unrestricted free agent at the end of the twenty eight season,

2023
01:50:00,040 --> 01:50:02,080
Speaker 1: so they will have him for the remainder of this

2024
01:50:02,200 --> 01:50:06,200
Speaker 1: year and then two years after that. That obviously aligns

2025
01:50:06,200 --> 01:50:11,120
Speaker 1: with the window because you have Siakam and then you

2026
01:50:11,200 --> 01:50:13,840
Speaker 1: know obviously the rest of the contracts that are there.

2027
01:50:15,000 --> 01:50:19,080
Speaker 1: I would be surprised. So if you're looking at eighteen million,

2028
01:50:20,840 --> 01:50:23,320
Speaker 1: can you look up the Pacers payroll by chance, Eddie

2029
01:50:23,400 --> 01:50:25,120
Speaker 1: or I can do it right here. If you look

2030
01:50:25,120 --> 01:50:27,080
Speaker 1: it up eighteen million, you've got a match within what

2031
01:50:27,200 --> 01:50:29,160
Speaker 1: is it eighty percent of the two contracts?

2032
01:50:30,040 --> 01:50:32,200
Speaker 3: Is it or is it sixty something like that.

2033
01:50:32,520 --> 01:50:35,519
Speaker 2: I thought it was ninety. I don't know anywhere around that, but.

2034
01:50:35,520 --> 01:50:37,360
Speaker 1: Either so let's say fifteen. They got to come up

2035
01:50:37,360 --> 01:50:41,400
Speaker 1: with fifteen million, right essentially, So if you were to

2036
01:50:41,479 --> 01:50:47,200
Speaker 1: look at that the Pacers in terms of their salaries

2037
01:50:47,360 --> 01:50:52,679
Speaker 1: for this year, Okay, Isaiah Jackson's at seven and a half.

2038
01:50:56,120 --> 01:51:01,440
Speaker 1: Then after Isaiah Jackson, you've got what is the contract

2039
01:51:01,520 --> 01:51:05,040
Speaker 1: for and Matherin is it? Well, Matherin's at nine. So

2040
01:51:05,160 --> 01:51:08,200
Speaker 1: if you throw Jackson in there. You're close, real close.

2041
01:51:08,240 --> 01:51:11,679
Speaker 2: So Sham Schrian are currently on ESPN saying that Pacers

2042
01:51:11,720 --> 01:51:15,640
Speaker 2: are giving up Isaiah Jackson Vindict Matherin in significant draft compensation.

2043
01:51:15,920 --> 01:51:20,080
Speaker 1: Okay, I would be stunned if that draft compensation is

2044
01:51:20,120 --> 01:51:25,679
Speaker 1: this year. I'm telling you. And Isaiah Jackson, I've watched

2045
01:51:25,720 --> 01:51:28,080
Speaker 1: him a lot lately. And the reason I've watched him

2046
01:51:28,080 --> 01:51:30,880
Speaker 1: a lot lately is because I've been very intrigued by

2047
01:51:30,960 --> 01:51:36,360
Speaker 1: how he plays after coming off the surgery that Tyrese

2048
01:51:36,400 --> 01:51:39,720
Speaker 1: Haliburton had. And it's a little bit different because Jackson's

2049
01:51:40,880 --> 01:51:44,880
Speaker 1: movement is a different necessity than the movement of the

2050
01:51:44,880 --> 01:51:49,439
Speaker 1: way you want Haliburton to move. But I do think

2051
01:51:49,439 --> 01:51:52,599
Speaker 1: that Jackson, who I like, and my understanding is Isaiah

2052
01:51:52,680 --> 01:51:56,280
Speaker 1: Jackson is just a wonderful young guy and good teammate,

2053
01:51:56,360 --> 01:51:56,800
Speaker 1: all of that.

2054
01:51:57,040 --> 01:51:59,000
Speaker 3: But and I really liked him.

2055
01:51:59,000 --> 01:52:01,360
Speaker 1: It was intrigued by him the injury, but I do

2056
01:52:01,400 --> 01:52:03,400
Speaker 1: feel like now he's kind of just a guy, and

2057
01:52:03,439 --> 01:52:04,760
Speaker 1: I hate to say that about him.

2058
01:52:05,040 --> 01:52:08,200
Speaker 2: So Sean's just got more word on this. The Pacers

2059
01:52:08,200 --> 01:52:11,000
Speaker 2: are also getting Kobe Brown in this deal. They're giving

2060
01:52:11,080 --> 01:52:13,040
Speaker 2: up two first round picks and a second round pick,

2061
01:52:13,160 --> 01:52:15,080
Speaker 2: the twenty twenty nine first from the Pacers to the

2062
01:52:15,080 --> 01:52:18,400
Speaker 2: Clippers is unprotected. And I believe he just said that

2063
01:52:18,479 --> 01:52:21,760
Speaker 2: the Pacers were willing to part with the twenty six

2064
01:52:21,960 --> 01:52:24,200
Speaker 2: first round pick, but it's heavily protected.

2065
01:52:25,320 --> 01:52:28,080
Speaker 1: Okay, heavily protected would mean if they end up in that,

2066
01:52:28,320 --> 01:52:31,719
Speaker 1: I'm telling you they're not getting you. Mark my words.

2067
01:52:31,760 --> 01:52:34,280
Speaker 1: I will stand up on top of this building and

2068
01:52:34,320 --> 01:52:38,759
Speaker 1: shout this. If the Pacers have a chance to draft

2069
01:52:38,760 --> 01:52:41,320
Speaker 1: a player in the top five of this draft, there

2070
01:52:41,439 --> 01:52:44,960
Speaker 1: is zero chance you can pry that from anything other

2071
01:52:45,000 --> 01:52:47,720
Speaker 1: than their cold, dead hands. No way they're giving that up.

2072
01:52:48,680 --> 01:52:58,760
Speaker 1: No way, Boozer, Willson, Peterson, Houston BYU. There's no way

2073
01:52:58,760 --> 01:53:01,519
Speaker 1: they're parting with that if they have a chance, because

2074
01:53:01,560 --> 01:53:04,519
Speaker 1: that right there, if you get one of those five,

2075
01:53:05,840 --> 01:53:12,480
Speaker 1: you put them on this roster with Zubots and then Siakam.

2076
01:53:12,520 --> 01:53:16,160
Speaker 1: You notice Jeris Walker wasn't included because I think they

2077
01:53:16,280 --> 01:53:19,040
Speaker 1: really like of late where he has come along nim

2078
01:53:19,040 --> 01:53:24,400
Speaker 1: Hard Halliburton. I think they like what Furfy's doing. If

2079
01:53:24,400 --> 01:53:28,439
Speaker 1: these guys all are healthy and Halliburton is back to

2080
01:53:28,560 --> 01:53:31,080
Speaker 1: ninety percent of what he was, I'm telling you right now,

2081
01:53:32,040 --> 01:53:36,800
Speaker 1: I'm telling you right now, this time a year from now,

2082
01:53:36,840 --> 01:53:38,200
Speaker 1: they're going to be rolling, all right.

2083
01:53:38,240 --> 01:53:40,439
Speaker 2: So this is from Sean's on Twitter. Now, Clippers are

2084
01:53:40,479 --> 01:53:43,360
Speaker 2: receiving the twenty twenty six first round pick from the Pacers.

2085
01:53:43,720 --> 01:53:47,559
Speaker 2: It is protected one through four and ten through thirty,

2086
01:53:48,240 --> 01:53:52,040
Speaker 2: plus a twenty twenty nine unprotected first round pick. So

2087
01:53:52,120 --> 01:53:55,840
Speaker 2: if the Pacers pick falls between five and nine, it

2088
01:53:55,840 --> 01:53:57,639
Speaker 2: will go to the Los Angeles Clippers.

2089
01:53:57,880 --> 01:53:58,960
Speaker 3: Five surprises me.

2090
01:53:59,200 --> 01:54:01,759
Speaker 2: If it is one through four or ten through thirty,

2091
01:54:01,800 --> 01:54:05,360
Speaker 2: the Pacers will retain that twenty twenty six first round pick.

2092
01:54:05,360 --> 01:54:07,519
Speaker 1: I forget this, Eddie. If they're in the bottom four,

2093
01:54:07,560 --> 01:54:08,920
Speaker 1: are they guaranteed one through four?

2094
01:54:11,720 --> 01:54:16,960
Speaker 2: So it's with the draft lottery, jac it's pretty Let

2095
01:54:16,960 --> 01:54:18,599
Speaker 2: me pull up the percentage of So if you have

2096
01:54:18,640 --> 01:54:21,720
Speaker 2: the first, second, or third worst record in the w

2097
01:54:21,960 --> 01:54:23,640
Speaker 2: or not in the WNBA, in the NBA, you have

2098
01:54:23,640 --> 01:54:25,720
Speaker 2: a fourteen percent chance at the first round pick, and

2099
01:54:25,760 --> 01:54:27,679
Speaker 2: you have a fifty two percent chance at a top

2100
01:54:27,720 --> 01:54:30,320
Speaker 2: four pick. If you have the fourth worst record, it's

2101
01:54:30,360 --> 01:54:32,520
Speaker 2: a twelve point five percent chance at the first round

2102
01:54:32,840 --> 01:54:35,760
Speaker 2: first overall pick and a forty eight percent chance at

2103
01:54:35,760 --> 01:54:38,080
Speaker 2: a top four pick. Now, if you have the fifth

2104
01:54:38,080 --> 01:54:40,760
Speaker 2: worst record in the NBA. It's ten point five percent

2105
01:54:40,800 --> 01:54:44,320
Speaker 2: for that first overall pick, forty two percent for a

2106
01:54:44,400 --> 01:54:45,320
Speaker 2: top four pick.

2107
01:54:48,200 --> 01:54:52,720
Speaker 1: I'm a little surprised they would part on anything that even.

2108
01:54:52,520 --> 01:54:55,040
Speaker 3: Gives them risk of losing that top four you know what,

2109
01:54:55,080 --> 01:54:59,919
Speaker 3: I mean? Five or six, right, that's big for the Clippers.

2110
01:55:00,760 --> 01:55:05,120
Speaker 1: I mean, honestly, that's a big deal for the Clippers. Now,

2111
01:55:05,160 --> 01:55:06,600
Speaker 1: who is the other player that's coming over?

2112
01:55:06,680 --> 01:55:08,000
Speaker 2: You said Kobe Brown?

2113
01:55:12,000 --> 01:55:16,320
Speaker 1: So, Kobe Brown and Zubots are now Indiana Pacers, right,

2114
01:55:17,840 --> 01:55:24,520
Speaker 1: and then Ben Matherin, Isaiah Jackson and potentially two picks

2115
01:55:24,920 --> 01:55:28,040
Speaker 1: on their way to Los Angeles. Two three nine, ten

2116
01:55:28,120 --> 01:55:31,280
Speaker 1: seventy's a telephone number. I am curious your reaction to it.

2117
01:55:32,000 --> 01:55:35,960
Speaker 1: You like it, you don't like it? Immediate reaction and

2118
01:55:36,080 --> 01:55:39,720
Speaker 1: what you think of this move for the Pacers. But again,

2119
01:55:39,880 --> 01:55:43,640
Speaker 1: Ben Matherin, the big one, Isaiah Jackson, both on their

2120
01:55:43,640 --> 01:55:47,960
Speaker 1: way now to Los Angeles. Will continue to discuss next.

2121
01:55:49,760 --> 01:55:52,560
Speaker 1: So if you're just joining us on the program on

2122
01:55:52,600 --> 01:55:59,040
Speaker 1: this NBA trade deadline addition, with just about forty five

2123
01:55:59,080 --> 01:56:03,400
Speaker 1: minutes left and the NBA trade deadline Thursday, the Pacers

2124
01:56:03,400 --> 01:56:07,880
Speaker 1: have made the move that was anticipated, not necessarily anticipated,

2125
01:56:07,920 --> 01:56:11,560
Speaker 1: although we have known that this would be a player

2126
01:56:11,640 --> 01:56:14,080
Speaker 1: of interest to them for some time, and we've mentioned

2127
01:56:14,160 --> 01:56:18,040
Speaker 1: him several times. I've eat the zubots from the Los

2128
01:56:18,080 --> 01:56:20,640
Speaker 1: Angeles Clippers. Twenty eight year old seven foot two hundred

2129
01:56:20,640 --> 01:56:24,760
Speaker 1: and forty pounds center and a big time rebounder and

2130
01:56:24,920 --> 01:56:29,240
Speaker 1: score but not a stretch center is on his way

2131
01:56:29,280 --> 01:56:34,080
Speaker 1: to Indiana. Isaiah Jackson, Benedict Mathern on their way to

2132
01:56:34,120 --> 01:56:36,680
Speaker 1: the Los Angeles Clippers, as well as a twenty twenty

2133
01:56:36,760 --> 01:56:40,640
Speaker 1: nine first round pick and a twenty twenty six first

2134
01:56:40,760 --> 01:56:44,640
Speaker 1: round pick of Indiana's in this year's upcoming draft, unless

2135
01:56:45,880 --> 01:56:49,280
Speaker 1: the Pacers have a top four pick or a pick

2136
01:56:49,440 --> 01:56:54,680
Speaker 1: outside of the top ten, and that event, Indiana would

2137
01:56:54,760 --> 01:56:58,240
Speaker 1: So if it is one through four, Indiana holds on

2138
01:56:58,320 --> 01:56:58,560
Speaker 1: to it.

2139
01:56:58,640 --> 01:57:01,280
Speaker 3: If it's ten through third, Indiana holds onto it.

2140
01:57:01,360 --> 01:57:03,960
Speaker 2: Right, that is correct, And if the Pacers do hold

2141
01:57:03,960 --> 01:57:07,240
Speaker 2: onto the twenty six pick, the Clippers would receive a

2142
01:57:07,320 --> 01:57:10,680
Speaker 2: twenty thirty one unprotected first round pick. And for those

2143
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Speaker 2: the people that are saying that this is too much

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Speaker 2: like you have to think about this from the grand picture, Jake,

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Speaker 2: We've kind of been talking about it. Tony East Dustin

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Speaker 2: de Pierrex, Scott Agnes, all the people that we've had

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Speaker 2: on that covered the Pacers have hinted at this that

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Speaker 2: Benedict Mathern was not going to be a player that

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01:57:25,400 --> 01:57:28,760
Speaker 2: they really wanted to resign this offseason because just didn't

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01:57:28,760 --> 01:57:31,480
Speaker 2: feel like he fit in with what they want to

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01:57:31,480 --> 01:57:33,960
Speaker 2: do offensively and how they want to play. And so

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01:57:34,040 --> 01:57:36,840
Speaker 2: to get a player like Visa Zubots to peer up

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Speaker 2: with Tyree's Halliburton essentially for Isaiah Jackson and two first

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Speaker 2: round picks. I think it's another excellent job by Kevin Pritchard,

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01:57:44,880 --> 01:57:47,880
Speaker 2: Chad Bukeen, and Ted Wu everybody inside the front office

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01:57:47,880 --> 01:57:48,760
Speaker 2: for the Indiana Pacers.

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Speaker 1: Eddie the risk here, I do believe the risk is

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01:57:55,720 --> 01:57:57,440
Speaker 1: again what's happened?

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Speaker 2: I said, I know there's a song that the heat

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Speaker 2: is on, but I wish we could replace that. I

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01:58:01,720 --> 01:58:03,720
Speaker 2: don't know if AI can do this or not in Jake,

2162
01:58:03,800 --> 01:58:05,240
Speaker 2: but the tank is on.

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Speaker 1: I mean you would have to think, right, yeah, because

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01:58:10,160 --> 01:58:16,720
Speaker 1: and I get it, you want realistically, there are in

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Speaker 1: my opinion, there are five players in this draft that

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01:58:22,040 --> 01:58:26,280
Speaker 1: you really are interested in. But for Indiana they probably

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01:58:26,280 --> 01:58:29,480
Speaker 1: are saying, no, it's four if we're inside those top four,

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Speaker 1: we want this pick. If it's inside those top four,

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01:58:34,080 --> 01:58:37,120
Speaker 1: and you're talking about de Bants from Byu, Peterson from Kansas,

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Speaker 1: I'll be Wilson from North Carolina, Caler Wilson of North Carolina,

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01:58:41,720 --> 01:58:46,520
Speaker 1: and Boozer and Boozer from Duke Now the Guard out

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01:58:46,560 --> 01:58:48,720
Speaker 1: of Houston. You know, they may say, look, we're good

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01:58:48,720 --> 01:58:51,600
Speaker 1: at that position, so that's not of interest to us.

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Speaker 1: So maybe their thought process is it's great that we

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Speaker 1: have this first round pick, but if it's the sixth

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Speaker 1: or seventh or fifth round or fifth pick overall, that's

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Speaker 1: not as as interest to us as the others. Presuming

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Speaker 1: those go top four. I can only imagine, can you

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Speaker 1: imagine if they and this is where the risk falls.

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01:59:15,840 --> 01:59:19,280
Speaker 1: If one of those four falls to say six or

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01:59:19,400 --> 01:59:24,400
Speaker 1: five and you don't have that pick, now that's where

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01:59:24,440 --> 01:59:27,040
Speaker 1: the risk runs. So I do think there's risk here. Listen.

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Speaker 1: I get it. You have a window with Siakam, with

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Speaker 1: Halliburton back, and you've got to give Halliburton probably a

2185
01:59:35,800 --> 01:59:38,120
Speaker 1: half a year to get into flow. But you have

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01:59:38,160 --> 01:59:41,680
Speaker 1: a window here of your core, which is Nimard. You

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01:59:41,720 --> 01:59:49,600
Speaker 1: forget about topping and then obviously Siakam Halliburton, and I

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01:59:49,640 --> 01:59:51,920
Speaker 1: do think Jars Walker's coming along and Ni Smiths. You

2189
01:59:52,240 --> 01:59:54,520
Speaker 1: have really good pieces here. You've got to cash in

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Speaker 1: while you have that group ready. Andrew joins us at

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01:59:58,200 --> 02:00:01,040
Speaker 1: two three nine, ten seventy. Andrew, what's up?

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I just heard you talking about the trade.

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Speaker 10: I am not a fan of A. I think Matha

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02:00:07,800 --> 02:00:10,800
Speaker 10: and but of really helped us out in the future.

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Speaker 10: I mean, we made the NBA Finals last year and

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Speaker 10: he was a big part of that. And I think

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Speaker 10: if you were going to run it back then, that

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02:00:17,840 --> 02:00:20,920
Speaker 10: would have been a good idea rather than trading away

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Speaker 10: that piece and now giving up the potential top you

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Speaker 10: know pick that you were going to get next year.

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Speaker 10: You know there's there's a big risk. Yeah, we're in

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Speaker 10: the bottom portion of the league right now, but you know,

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02:00:33,760 --> 02:00:36,280
Speaker 10: with the NBA lottery, you just never know how that's

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02:00:36,320 --> 02:00:37,960
Speaker 10: going to go. Even if we have the worst record.

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Speaker 3: It happened, you know, it feel like, Andrew, here's the

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Speaker 3: one thing.

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Speaker 1: Doesn't it feel like the NBA and basketball gods finally

2208
02:00:47,600 --> 02:00:49,760
Speaker 1: owe it to the Indiana Pacers to have the lottery

2209
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Speaker 1: ping punk balls go their way?

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Speaker 3: Doesn't it feel that way?

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02:00:52,920 --> 02:00:55,440
Speaker 1: They lost a coin flip for Ralph Samson, they had

2212
02:00:55,480 --> 02:00:59,080
Speaker 1: the frozen envelope for Patrick Ewing, on and on and on.

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Speaker 1: This has to be the year, does it not, Andrew?

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Speaker 10: I mean it could be, But they could be doing

2215
02:01:04,280 --> 02:01:05,920
Speaker 10: the same thing for La and this could be their

2216
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Speaker 10: year where.

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Speaker 7: They get the uh top pick and it falls for them.

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Speaker 1: Well, no, but the top four is protected. So if Indiana,

2219
02:01:12,520 --> 02:01:14,839
Speaker 1: if the ping pong balls fall the way for Indiana

2220
02:01:14,920 --> 02:01:16,400
Speaker 1: to go one, two, three, or four, they hold on

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Speaker 1: to it. Yeah, that could get bumped out of that.

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Speaker 7: I'll still take a guy, you know, after that.

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Speaker 10: I think anyone in that top pick, a top ten pick,

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02:01:24,040 --> 02:01:25,000
Speaker 10: will help out this team.

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Speaker 1: I would agree with that, Andrew. I would agree with that.

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Speaker 1: One thing. I will say though, keep in mind, you

2227
02:01:30,080 --> 02:01:33,520
Speaker 1: know Mathern's a top ten pick that you're sitting out there, right.

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02:01:33,960 --> 02:01:36,960
Speaker 1: The Pacers have been really good at trades, and they've

2229
02:01:36,960 --> 02:01:40,760
Speaker 1: been probably average at drafting, at least in terms of

2230
02:01:40,800 --> 02:01:42,480
Speaker 1: high Now, ned mart was a hell of a pick,

2231
02:01:42,560 --> 02:01:45,120
Speaker 1: no question about it, right, and that was a later pick,

2232
02:01:45,160 --> 02:01:48,400
Speaker 1: and Jackson was before the injury, a good later first

2233
02:01:48,440 --> 02:01:52,320
Speaker 1: round pick. Scott's up next, It's up Scott Hey.

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Speaker 11: Jake, I've been listening, and uh yeah, you hate to

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02:01:55,520 --> 02:01:58,680
Speaker 11: give up a guy like Matherin, but I'm agree. I'm

2236
02:01:58,680 --> 02:02:01,640
Speaker 11: beginning to side with you. I'm beginning to lean your

2237
02:02:01,680 --> 02:02:05,040
Speaker 11: way because the Pacers are what the second or third

2238
02:02:05,120 --> 02:02:06,360
Speaker 11: worst record right now?

2239
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Speaker 2: How closer they do that for?

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Speaker 1: Uh well, that's good question, Eddie. Where do things lie

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Speaker 1: right now?

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Speaker 2: So right now the Pacers are third, they have I

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02:02:19,000 --> 02:02:21,800
Speaker 2: guess they're tied for third right now with the Brooklyn Nets. Now,

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02:02:21,920 --> 02:02:24,880
Speaker 2: one thing to note is that a game behind them

2245
02:02:24,880 --> 02:02:29,960
Speaker 2: technically is the I guess in front of THEMS. Right now,

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02:02:29,960 --> 02:02:31,680
Speaker 2: they're tied for third. They have a one game advantage

2247
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Speaker 2: over Washington who is fifth.

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Speaker 11: And they've lost. They've lost tie breakers with those teams too.

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Speaker 2: I believe they still have.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, I think this would be potentially the biggest trade

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Speaker 11: the Pacers have ever made. And I don't mean as

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02:02:49,000 --> 02:02:53,000
Speaker 11: far as size, but if they're one player away from

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Speaker 11: a championship, I mean, you need that rim protector, you

2254
02:02:56,640 --> 02:02:57,560
Speaker 11: need that rebounder.

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Speaker 7: This might be the.

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Speaker 11: Piece all pieces that put some over the top. By

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Speaker 11: the way, Scott on board, I totally trust what the

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Speaker 11: Pacers are doing. I believe in Carlisle. I believe they

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02:03:09,840 --> 02:03:12,840
Speaker 11: realize what fits and what does it? And you said

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Speaker 11: top them would still be.

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Speaker 1: Here, right Yeah, oh yeah, yeah, I'm saying you almost

2262
02:03:16,280 --> 02:03:17,800
Speaker 1: forget about him because he's been hurt, right.

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Speaker 11: I think I think we're onto something here, Jake.

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Speaker 1: I mean, let me ask you, Scott, this could be Scott,

2265
02:03:25,560 --> 02:03:27,480
Speaker 1: what are you doing? What are you doing on the

2266
02:03:27,560 --> 02:03:30,320
Speaker 1: nineteenth or the twentieth of this month coming up in

2267
02:03:30,320 --> 02:03:32,080
Speaker 1: a couple of weeks? You got big plans?

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Speaker 11: Uh?

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Speaker 8: Is that the day?

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Speaker 11: Is that the day of the previewer game?

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Speaker 1: Well, I don't know. That's when the Pacers play the Wizards.

2272
02:03:38,600 --> 02:03:40,760
Speaker 1: And if you're interested, they might put you out on

2273
02:03:40,800 --> 02:03:42,880
Speaker 1: the floor, right because because we got to stay in

2274
02:03:42,920 --> 02:03:46,440
Speaker 1: this bottom four, right right, So so we you know,

2275
02:03:47,440 --> 02:03:49,440
Speaker 1: if you're interested, Scott, they might put you out there.

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Speaker 1: I'm telling you, I appreciate the call, and I appreciate

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02:03:52,640 --> 02:03:54,720
Speaker 1: your vote of confidence and my thought on it.

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Speaker 2: Chris Hayne's Jake reporting that the Pacers offered a similar

2279
02:03:58,080 --> 02:04:01,839
Speaker 2: package to Utah for walk Or Kessler, and the Jazz

2280
02:04:01,880 --> 02:04:03,800
Speaker 2: turned it down, and once they did, the Pacers then

2281
02:04:03,840 --> 02:04:05,720
Speaker 2: pivoted to Ivisa Zubats.

2282
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Speaker 1: Yeah, well that's Kessler was one for I mean, and

2283
02:04:09,000 --> 02:04:13,000
Speaker 1: he's younger, really good player. Zubots is a good player,

2284
02:04:13,000 --> 02:04:14,640
Speaker 1: There's no doubt about it. Now, how does he fit

2285
02:04:14,680 --> 02:04:17,160
Speaker 1: in the style that they play? We'll see. I mean,

2286
02:04:17,200 --> 02:04:21,240
Speaker 1: that's they're gonna have time to listen. If I'm the Pacers,

2287
02:04:21,320 --> 02:04:26,120
Speaker 1: I'm doing nothing for the next three months here, but

2288
02:04:26,240 --> 02:04:30,720
Speaker 1: having Zubats just play with Ethan Thompson and I've got

2289
02:04:30,720 --> 02:04:33,280
Speaker 1: something from Jackson and just learn the system.

2290
02:04:33,360 --> 02:04:37,280
Speaker 2: Him and his wife just welcomed, I believe, their first child.

2291
02:04:37,480 --> 02:04:40,200
Speaker 2: So he missed their game, the Clippers game last night

2292
02:04:40,960 --> 02:04:43,720
Speaker 2: against the Cleveland Cavaliers. Just could be a dad, Just

2293
02:04:43,720 --> 02:04:45,600
Speaker 2: could be a dad for a little bit. Okay, that's

2294
02:04:45,600 --> 02:04:46,160
Speaker 2: all we asked for.

2295
02:04:46,320 --> 02:04:48,400
Speaker 1: So not bad, But Eddie, you want him to run.

2296
02:04:50,920 --> 02:04:57,200
Speaker 1: In a best case scenario, you have him learning that

2297
02:04:57,800 --> 02:05:01,240
Speaker 1: past facilitating offense and getting that going up on the

2298
02:05:01,280 --> 02:05:03,120
Speaker 1: high post like you saw tr Or do for you

2299
02:05:03,120 --> 02:05:09,800
Speaker 1: know so often, right, I mean, that's the Indiana a

2300
02:05:09,880 --> 02:05:14,720
Speaker 1: year ago in the finals. The key to what they

2301
02:05:14,760 --> 02:05:19,640
Speaker 1: did was their incredible chemistry and familiarity with one another

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Speaker 1: on the floor of where everyone was. So the sooner

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02:05:23,800 --> 02:05:26,560
Speaker 1: that he can get acclimated to that particular offense, and

2304
02:05:26,600 --> 02:05:29,120
Speaker 1: the way they run it, the more dangerous they're going

2305
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Speaker 1: to be.

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Speaker 3: Martin, Martin, what's up?

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Speaker 1: Martin?

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Speaker 7: What's up?

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Speaker 1: Jake?

2310
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Speaker 12: How are you?

2311
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Speaker 3: I'm well, my voices go, I'm another that I'm good.

2312
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Speaker 12: Yeah, great, great, Hey, Amy, I am all in on

2313
02:05:41,680 --> 02:05:43,800
Speaker 12: this trade. So even take a holder. I know I

2314
02:05:43,840 --> 02:05:46,040
Speaker 12: called it a bunch last year during the stress run.

2315
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Speaker 12: If you start to build out, you know, one of

2316
02:05:49,960 --> 02:05:53,040
Speaker 12: the keys the last year's team was the depth. And

2317
02:05:53,120 --> 02:05:55,880
Speaker 12: if you start to put together a too deep roster,

2318
02:05:56,480 --> 02:06:00,320
Speaker 12: even without a first round pick for next year, it

2319
02:06:00,360 --> 02:06:04,800
Speaker 12: looks really good. You've got a starting five now of Haliburton,

2320
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Speaker 12: nim Hart and Eis Smith, Diakham and Zoo. That is

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Speaker 12: a heck of a starting five. And your backups. See

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Speaker 12: a lot of the reason things have gone sideways this year,

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02:06:14,400 --> 02:06:17,080
Speaker 12: they've got backups playing starter minute. Ben Shepherd is a

2324
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Speaker 12: heck of a backup.

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Speaker 7: Not a good starter.

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Speaker 3: I would agree with that, yeah for sure.

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Speaker 12: Walker Waight backup, not a starter, Jay Huff. Well, now

2328
02:06:25,320 --> 02:06:27,680
Speaker 12: they can all be backups. You've got a second unit

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Speaker 12: of McConnell, of Shepherd, of Obie Toppin, of Jerris Walker,

2330
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Speaker 12: of Jay huff, you'd be hard to find a team

2331
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Speaker 12: that can go ten deep.

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Speaker 1: Agreed. That's a great point, Martin. And you know what, Martin,

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Speaker 1: And the key to all of that, yeah, Well, the

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Speaker 1: key to all of that, I think, sorry I caught third.

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Speaker 1: The key to all of that is the emergence of

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Speaker 1: jaris Walker. Because what you have now is a guy

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02:06:53,960 --> 02:06:55,800
Speaker 1: that I'm not saying he has the scoring punch of

2338
02:06:55,840 --> 02:06:59,320
Speaker 1: Mather and that would be irresponsible to me. But and

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Speaker 1: Furfey is well, furfew you could put in there. Those

2340
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Speaker 1: two guys give you a little bit more freedom now

2341
02:07:05,920 --> 02:07:09,240
Speaker 1: of being able to trust that depth with your second unit,

2342
02:07:09,840 --> 02:07:12,640
Speaker 1: and then Topping becomes maybe your primary scorer in unit two.

2343
02:07:13,080 --> 02:07:17,440
Speaker 1: But I think Walker's ability to guard different spots and

2344
02:07:17,520 --> 02:07:20,320
Speaker 1: now his more comfort level within the pace of that

2345
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Speaker 1: offense have facilitated and made it expendable to make this move, Martin,

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Speaker 1: great call. I appreciate it. JMB is in the building.

2347
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Speaker 1: We'll get his reaction as well. Part of the crossover

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2351
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Speaker 1: a lot of text messages, which I appreciate. Jake. I'd

2352
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Speaker 1: hope that we'd draft a dude that would push Nie

2353
02:07:46,480 --> 02:07:49,680
Speaker 1: Smith or Nimhard to the bench. That would be great depth.

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02:07:49,920 --> 02:07:52,160
Speaker 1: There's a question whether TJ will be back next year.

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02:07:52,200 --> 02:07:55,920
Speaker 1: Absolutely fine with Ben and Jackson, Ben Matherin and Jackson

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02:07:55,920 --> 02:07:59,040
Speaker 1: being part of the trade. The thing that you forget

2357
02:07:59,160 --> 02:08:02,360
Speaker 1: when you're talking about that depth pieces Martin was talking about.

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02:08:02,240 --> 02:08:03,240
Speaker 3: And the second unit.

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02:08:04,560 --> 02:08:07,800
Speaker 1: If they are able to stay inside that top four,

2360
02:08:08,880 --> 02:08:13,320
Speaker 1: then they are going to also get a player that

2361
02:08:13,520 --> 02:08:17,800
Speaker 1: immediately and I'm telling you there are four players in there.

2362
02:08:18,480 --> 02:08:20,880
Speaker 1: That you get one of those four and you're going

2363
02:08:20,920 --> 02:08:22,640
Speaker 1: to be good to go with somebody that's ready to

2364
02:08:22,640 --> 02:08:25,040
Speaker 1: plug and play and give you points off the bench.

2365
02:08:27,600 --> 02:08:30,160
Speaker 1: It would be a huge gut punch if they end

2366
02:08:30,240 --> 02:08:34,000
Speaker 1: up with the fifth pick and that goes to the Clippers.

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02:08:34,760 --> 02:08:39,000
Speaker 1: That is I believe the reason they protected top four

2368
02:08:39,080 --> 02:08:42,280
Speaker 1: is because the Pacers believe there are four players and

2369
02:08:42,360 --> 02:08:46,360
Speaker 1: presumably the top four picks in this draft are obvious.

2370
02:08:46,680 --> 02:08:49,040
Speaker 1: I think there's a huge drop off after the top four.

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02:08:49,120 --> 02:08:51,840
Speaker 1: The top four are that good, and Indiana wants to

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02:08:51,880 --> 02:08:58,760
Speaker 1: make sure that they are within that top four to

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02:08:58,840 --> 02:09:05,000
Speaker 1: get one of those four guys, but the idea of zubots,

2374
02:09:06,680 --> 02:09:10,160
Speaker 1: and then you combine that with if everyone is healthy,

2375
02:09:10,200 --> 02:09:14,880
Speaker 1: what we're talking about here. I like it for this reason.

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02:09:16,200 --> 02:09:23,120
Speaker 1: I'm going to grade it a temporarily victorious trade. We

2377
02:09:23,280 --> 02:09:26,080
Speaker 1: never know, you know, I'm old enough to remember when

2378
02:09:26,120 --> 02:09:28,240
Speaker 1: Andrew Biden was going to be the final piece that

2379
02:09:28,320 --> 02:09:32,520
Speaker 1: was going to put Indiana over the top. You never

2380
02:09:32,640 --> 02:09:34,760
Speaker 1: know when a player is acquired how.

2381
02:09:34,640 --> 02:09:36,040
Speaker 3: It's going to mess. You just don't.

2382
02:09:37,680 --> 02:09:41,080
Speaker 1: But as of right now, I can appreciate the fact

2383
02:09:41,080 --> 02:09:44,920
Speaker 1: that they said, once Turner was gone, we have a void.

2384
02:09:44,960 --> 02:09:46,520
Speaker 1: We've got to fill it, and we're going to go

2385
02:09:46,560 --> 02:09:50,200
Speaker 1: out and do it now. In the case of Matherin,

2386
02:09:50,280 --> 02:09:53,680
Speaker 1: I like Matheren, good player, I like him, But for

2387
02:09:53,800 --> 02:09:57,040
Speaker 1: what their needs are and when they're mapping it out,

2388
02:09:57,560 --> 02:10:01,040
Speaker 1: the need to fill the center became to me, for

2389
02:10:01,200 --> 02:10:06,920
Speaker 1: Indiana from their viewpoint, a bigger need than the payback

2390
02:10:07,440 --> 02:10:11,280
Speaker 1: of maintaining mather in long term. JMB has just arrived.

2391
02:10:11,320 --> 02:10:12,400
Speaker 1: He looks like he's on a mission.

2392
02:10:12,680 --> 02:10:15,320
Speaker 13: I'm on a mission, you know. I'm very excited about this,

2393
02:10:15,680 --> 02:10:18,440
Speaker 13: not about losing Mathering because I wanted him to stay.

2394
02:10:18,520 --> 02:10:19,680
Speaker 2: You want to know why I'm excited.

2395
02:10:21,000 --> 02:10:23,320
Speaker 13: Go ahead, because there's zero way I'm not going to

2396
02:10:23,400 --> 02:10:26,400
Speaker 13: get run now with his team because they aren't going

2397
02:10:26,440 --> 02:10:29,280
Speaker 13: to try to win a damn thing the right, So

2398
02:10:29,320 --> 02:10:31,320
Speaker 13: I think now I can be a part of this

2399
02:10:32,280 --> 02:10:32,760
Speaker 13: like I've.

2400
02:10:32,600 --> 02:10:34,880
Speaker 1: Been placed as with God. They give me a chance, right,

2401
02:10:34,920 --> 02:10:37,400
Speaker 1: they got two of them against Washington upcoming, right.

2402
02:10:37,920 --> 02:10:40,080
Speaker 2: Yes, I think now's my time.

2403
02:10:41,040 --> 02:10:43,640
Speaker 13: Now is my time to get my first NBA run

2404
02:10:43,680 --> 02:10:45,000
Speaker 13: of all time right here?

2405
02:10:45,280 --> 02:10:46,760
Speaker 1: That's it now.

2406
02:10:46,840 --> 02:10:53,120
Speaker 13: I honestly I'm bumm because of Matherin and uh Zobots

2407
02:10:53,600 --> 02:10:58,320
Speaker 13: is a big burly dude. He's that's great. I wish

2408
02:10:58,360 --> 02:11:00,600
Speaker 13: he had more of a face up threat. Well, that's

2409
02:11:00,760 --> 02:11:04,800
Speaker 13: that's which he doesn't have. His lack of transitional play

2410
02:11:04,800 --> 02:11:08,040
Speaker 13: as to one we're missing here, right he. I kind

2411
02:11:08,080 --> 02:11:10,280
Speaker 13: of wonder what he's going to be like when he

2412
02:11:10,360 --> 02:11:12,920
Speaker 13: actually sees the ball with having without having to go

2413
02:11:12,960 --> 02:11:15,920
Speaker 13: get it himself, because if he watched the Clippers play

2414
02:11:16,160 --> 02:11:18,000
Speaker 13: and nobody throwing him the ball, right, of course, he

2415
02:11:18,040 --> 02:11:20,240
Speaker 13: has to always go get it himself. So and it

2416
02:11:20,400 --> 02:11:22,280
Speaker 13: is why he's White played with hard and Harden was

2417
02:11:22,520 --> 02:11:25,280
Speaker 13: a dime dropper, wasn't to him?

2418
02:11:25,360 --> 02:11:26,920
Speaker 3: So very good rebound.

2419
02:11:26,560 --> 02:11:28,400
Speaker 1: It, very good rebounder as well. Yeah.

2420
02:11:28,680 --> 02:11:32,440
Speaker 13: Yeah, that's that's something that notoriously this team has been without.

2421
02:11:32,800 --> 02:11:35,600
Speaker 13: But now they're going to be without something. I think

2422
02:11:35,640 --> 02:11:39,600
Speaker 13: it's important, and that is the dog mentality of Bennick Matherin.

2423
02:11:39,880 --> 02:11:42,840
Speaker 13: And hopefully he doesn't go to LA and blossom into

2424
02:11:42,880 --> 02:11:44,240
Speaker 13: what people thought he was going to be.

2425
02:11:44,520 --> 02:11:46,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think he made John. I just I

2426
02:11:47,000 --> 02:11:49,880
Speaker 1: go back to this. I like mathering a great deal,

2427
02:11:49,960 --> 02:11:52,320
Speaker 1: and I have no reason. I don't think anybody has

2428
02:11:52,360 --> 02:11:54,080
Speaker 1: any reason to say anything other than you know, hey,

2429
02:11:54,120 --> 02:11:57,080
Speaker 1: you know what good player enjoyed it. I just think

2430
02:11:57,120 --> 02:12:00,040
Speaker 1: that if he does blossom in l A. And I

2431
02:12:00,040 --> 02:12:02,839
Speaker 1: feel free to disagree with me here, but if Matherin

2432
02:12:02,920 --> 02:12:06,400
Speaker 1: blossoms in Los Angeles, it's going to be because he

2433
02:12:06,520 --> 02:12:08,960
Speaker 1: comes out of his shell in a style of play

2434
02:12:09,000 --> 02:12:11,520
Speaker 1: that is not necessarily exactly what Indiana plays.

2435
02:12:12,240 --> 02:12:16,000
Speaker 13: So he and what do you think he Garland Leonard

2436
02:12:16,360 --> 02:12:18,480
Speaker 13: occasionally what's that Clipper lineup?

2437
02:12:18,640 --> 02:12:18,840
Speaker 7: Look?

2438
02:12:19,160 --> 02:12:21,520
Speaker 1: They I would think that that lineup's got to be

2439
02:12:21,560 --> 02:12:24,920
Speaker 1: in constant flux, right, Yeah, you know what I mean?

2440
02:12:25,040 --> 02:12:27,560
Speaker 1: I mean they the Clippers to me seem to be

2441
02:12:27,640 --> 02:12:28,640
Speaker 1: kind of redirecting here.

2442
02:12:29,680 --> 02:12:29,920
Speaker 7: Yeah.

2443
02:12:29,920 --> 02:12:34,560
Speaker 1: I mean, obviously leonard is Is is really really good

2444
02:12:35,160 --> 02:12:38,240
Speaker 1: and can and you know he's having quietly a fabulous year.

2445
02:12:39,200 --> 02:12:42,400
Speaker 1: But I just it seems to me like LA pushed

2446
02:12:42,400 --> 02:12:44,000
Speaker 1: all in a few years ago and now they're kind

2447
02:12:44,000 --> 02:12:44,800
Speaker 1: of rebuilding from there.

2448
02:12:44,840 --> 02:12:46,880
Speaker 13: I said this yesterday to Avid Sindery when he was on.

2449
02:12:47,000 --> 02:12:49,000
Speaker 13: I said, in a big one I would like to

2450
02:12:49,000 --> 02:12:51,360
Speaker 13: have is somebody that has the overall game. I don't

2451
02:12:51,400 --> 02:12:54,200
Speaker 13: want to have to like fuse one dude and what

2452
02:12:54,280 --> 02:12:56,400
Speaker 13: he can do with another dude. Let's say Jay Huff

2453
02:12:56,400 --> 02:12:59,120
Speaker 13: can knock down the open three buddy can't do this,

2454
02:12:59,320 --> 02:13:02,920
Speaker 13: but you know Zubobs can do this. That's my only

2455
02:13:03,000 --> 02:13:06,200
Speaker 13: issue with it, because when you do high ball screen

2456
02:13:06,240 --> 02:13:09,080
Speaker 13: action and you want to Remron, they have guys that

2457
02:13:09,160 --> 02:13:11,360
Speaker 13: can do it. But the whole pick and pop thing,

2458
02:13:11,760 --> 02:13:14,400
Speaker 13: unless Zuboch shows me something I never seen and maybe

2459
02:13:14,400 --> 02:13:17,280
Speaker 13: he can't, maybe never had the opportunity in LA. He's

2460
02:13:17,480 --> 02:13:19,600
Speaker 13: just not been that type of guy, and I think

2461
02:13:19,640 --> 02:13:23,160
Speaker 13: that's a hamstringer for this offense in terms of opening

2462
02:13:23,240 --> 02:13:24,440
Speaker 13: up things the way that.

2463
02:13:24,400 --> 02:13:25,880
Speaker 3: We're used to seeing it opened up.

2464
02:13:27,280 --> 02:13:29,400
Speaker 13: Even if you don't hit it, even if you're miles

2465
02:13:29,520 --> 02:13:32,760
Speaker 13: and you look like Scrubs Central in the NBA Finals.

2466
02:13:32,800 --> 02:13:34,920
Speaker 1: As he did, he was still a threat.

2467
02:13:35,120 --> 02:13:38,040
Speaker 13: You still had to recognize that, you know, this dude

2468
02:13:38,080 --> 02:13:41,040
Speaker 13: picking and popping can stick this thing in my face.

2469
02:13:41,400 --> 02:13:44,920
Speaker 13: You had to recognize that and respect it. That's a

2470
02:13:44,960 --> 02:13:46,640
Speaker 13: part of the game and part of this offense. I

2471
02:13:46,680 --> 02:13:47,760
Speaker 13: don't want to see go away.

2472
02:13:48,200 --> 02:13:49,960
Speaker 1: All right, John, what's lined up with a big program?

2473
02:13:50,000 --> 02:13:51,680
Speaker 1: I have no idea.

2474
02:13:51,760 --> 02:13:54,000
Speaker 13: We're gonna find out, right, we'll talk about this and

2475
02:13:54,160 --> 02:13:57,680
Speaker 13: see what pop right, pick pick and pop stuff I

2476
02:13:57,680 --> 02:13:59,000
Speaker 13: mean like.

2477
02:13:59,560 --> 02:14:04,360
Speaker 1: I like passing, dribbling stuff like you. All Right, johns

2478
02:14:04,400 --> 02:14:06,200
Speaker 1: up next with all of that, and we will be

2479
02:14:06,280 --> 02:14:07,400
Speaker 1: back with you at noon tomorrow.

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Speaker 3: I thank you for listening to Quey Company.