1 00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:03,800 Speaker 1: So can he stop the Republican cabal in Indiana? Let's 2 00:00:03,840 --> 00:00:05,520 Speaker 1: find out. It's kind of a case. He show him. 3 00:00:05,600 --> 00:00:08,280 Speaker 1: Rob Casey's out today, Ethan's in for case he Bobai 4 00:00:08,440 --> 00:00:11,559 Speaker 1: joins us now in studio. Democrat candidate for Secretary of State? 5 00:00:11,600 --> 00:00:13,520 Speaker 2: Bo Hello, Hey, how are you doing? Rom all right? 6 00:00:13,560 --> 00:00:16,880 Speaker 1: So, first question, why would you want to do this 7 00:00:16,960 --> 00:00:19,560 Speaker 1: to yourself? You've got a pretty good life, You're working 8 00:00:19,600 --> 00:00:22,960 Speaker 1: for a law firm, you know, great family. Why are 9 00:00:22,960 --> 00:00:24,319 Speaker 1: you running for secretary of state? 10 00:00:24,520 --> 00:00:27,520 Speaker 2: Yeah? I was raised in a family of public servants, 11 00:00:27,640 --> 00:00:29,760 Speaker 2: and I was always taught that public servants should serve 12 00:00:29,800 --> 00:00:32,800 Speaker 2: people and not themselves. And I'm looking at our state. 13 00:00:33,080 --> 00:00:35,160 Speaker 2: I'm seeing too often that the folks in the state House, 14 00:00:35,200 --> 00:00:38,159 Speaker 2: and particularly the Secretary of State, are serving themselves. He's 15 00:00:38,240 --> 00:00:41,280 Speaker 2: using his position as an elected official to benefit himself, 16 00:00:41,320 --> 00:00:43,800 Speaker 2: to enrich himself, to help his friends and family. I mean, 17 00:00:43,840 --> 00:00:46,680 Speaker 2: the guy spent ninety thousand dollars of the taxpayer money 18 00:00:46,680 --> 00:00:47,640 Speaker 2: on a luxury suv. 19 00:00:47,720 --> 00:00:48,440 Speaker 1: He's a lot of money. 20 00:00:48,479 --> 00:00:50,240 Speaker 2: That's a lot of money. That's well, that's not just 21 00:00:50,280 --> 00:00:51,839 Speaker 2: a lot of money. That's more than the averageosier makes 22 00:00:51,840 --> 00:00:54,680 Speaker 2: an entire year. He's flown around the world, doesn't tell 23 00:00:54,720 --> 00:00:56,560 Speaker 2: us who's paying for those trips, the purpose of the travel. 24 00:00:56,920 --> 00:00:59,600 Speaker 2: He's increased his own salary, his office, head count, et cetera. 25 00:00:59,600 --> 00:01:03,440 Speaker 2: The list on. I want to live a life of service. 26 00:01:03,840 --> 00:01:05,600 Speaker 2: I look at I was in the Marine Corps. When 27 00:01:05,600 --> 00:01:07,400 Speaker 2: you see a problem in the Marine Corps, you run towarty, 28 00:01:07,400 --> 00:01:09,520 Speaker 2: you try and fix it. The secretary of State's office 29 00:01:09,560 --> 00:01:12,880 Speaker 2: is a big, big problem in our politics. My plan 30 00:01:12,920 --> 00:01:15,200 Speaker 2: is simple. Day one, We're going to clean up the 31 00:01:15,240 --> 00:01:17,959 Speaker 2: wasteful spending and the corruption. I'm gonna conduct an independent 32 00:01:18,040 --> 00:01:19,760 Speaker 2: audit of the offer. Yeah, can you like auction the 33 00:01:19,800 --> 00:01:22,200 Speaker 2: car off the do you do that? We'll wait on 34 00:01:22,200 --> 00:01:25,039 Speaker 2: that one. Gotta we gotta see what the market looks like. 35 00:01:25,080 --> 00:01:27,200 Speaker 2: And I think that thing's got some nice leather interior too. 36 00:01:27,520 --> 00:01:28,440 Speaker 2: Still that new car smell. 37 00:01:28,560 --> 00:01:30,119 Speaker 1: So let's get I want to get to what you're 38 00:01:30,120 --> 00:01:32,399 Speaker 1: gonna do as Secretary of State. But the first thing 39 00:01:32,400 --> 00:01:34,399 Speaker 1: that fascinates me is, obviously, and I'm sure you get 40 00:01:34,400 --> 00:01:36,520 Speaker 1: this all the time, you come from a very famous 41 00:01:36,520 --> 00:01:39,279 Speaker 1: political family. Your dad was the governor, senator, your grandpa 42 00:01:39,480 --> 00:01:43,600 Speaker 1: is senator. Like, is that a do you do? You 43 00:01:43,880 --> 00:01:46,000 Speaker 1: step out of that shadow. Do you say, Look, here's 44 00:01:46,000 --> 00:01:49,240 Speaker 1: who I am. I'm a part of this lineage of politics. 45 00:01:49,640 --> 00:01:51,800 Speaker 1: How are you going to handle that as you run 46 00:01:51,840 --> 00:01:52,480 Speaker 1: this campaign. 47 00:01:52,680 --> 00:01:55,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm very proud of my family's service to our 48 00:01:55,400 --> 00:01:58,160 Speaker 2: state and country. And you know, I'm not naive to 49 00:01:58,640 --> 00:02:01,160 Speaker 2: the circumstances of my birth. It's not something I could control. 50 00:02:01,200 --> 00:02:03,280 Speaker 2: It's just kind of who I am. But I got 51 00:02:03,280 --> 00:02:05,080 Speaker 2: to be my own person. I am my own person, 52 00:02:05,160 --> 00:02:07,480 Speaker 2: and I look forward to the next you know, thirteen 53 00:02:07,520 --> 00:02:10,720 Speaker 2: months or so to the November of twenty twenty six 54 00:02:10,760 --> 00:02:12,200 Speaker 2: showing people who I am. I got to be my 55 00:02:12,240 --> 00:02:15,280 Speaker 2: own person. You might remember in twenty sixteen, my dad 56 00:02:15,320 --> 00:02:17,480 Speaker 2: briefly lost his mind and tried to get I tried 57 00:02:17,520 --> 00:02:18,959 Speaker 2: to get back involved in politics. 58 00:02:19,639 --> 00:02:21,680 Speaker 1: That's why that's why I ask you, because it's he says, 59 00:02:21,880 --> 00:02:24,960 Speaker 1: with sports, where it's like very hard to be you're 60 00:02:24,960 --> 00:02:27,000 Speaker 1: calling the arch manning by the way, So what if 61 00:02:27,040 --> 00:02:29,399 Speaker 1: you're not very good, you could very well be very good. 62 00:02:29,440 --> 00:02:32,960 Speaker 1: We hope you're very good. But you know, you see 63 00:02:32,960 --> 00:02:35,919 Speaker 1: that with sports right where it's like, you know, Michael 64 00:02:36,000 --> 00:02:39,120 Speaker 1: Jordan's son or now Lebron James son, it's very hard 65 00:02:39,160 --> 00:02:42,960 Speaker 1: to follow in the footsteps of a famous fathers or grandfathers, 66 00:02:42,960 --> 00:02:45,120 Speaker 1: And I just wonder you know how you'll you'll deal 67 00:02:45,160 --> 00:02:46,960 Speaker 1: with that because sometimes that's not easy for people. 68 00:02:47,000 --> 00:02:50,720 Speaker 2: It's not easy. But you might remember Peyton Manning. Yeah, 69 00:02:51,000 --> 00:02:54,560 Speaker 2: my sports hero, his dad, his dad when nobody Yeah, 70 00:02:55,120 --> 00:02:58,519 Speaker 2: So it does happen both ways. And look, my mom 71 00:02:58,560 --> 00:03:00,960 Speaker 2: always like say to me growing up, never never try 72 00:03:01,040 --> 00:03:02,480 Speaker 2: to be anyone else, because you're never gonna be good 73 00:03:02,480 --> 00:03:04,320 Speaker 2: at it. People could smell a phony from mile away. 74 00:03:04,320 --> 00:03:06,079 Speaker 2: It's same in the marine corpse, same in business, same 75 00:03:06,120 --> 00:03:08,760 Speaker 2: in politics. You just got to be yourself. I'm just 76 00:03:08,760 --> 00:03:11,200 Speaker 2: gonna tell people the truth, particularly when it comes to 77 00:03:11,240 --> 00:03:13,440 Speaker 2: this office. Yeah, tell people what's going on. I mean 78 00:03:13,480 --> 00:03:15,560 Speaker 2: you've discussed this public polling on your show. I think 79 00:03:15,560 --> 00:03:17,720 Speaker 2: it was yesterday or the day before. Yep. The public 80 00:03:17,720 --> 00:03:20,760 Speaker 2: polling shows that nobody knows in our state who Diego 81 00:03:20,800 --> 00:03:23,320 Speaker 2: Morales is, and the people that do know don't like him. 82 00:03:23,440 --> 00:03:24,799 Speaker 1: Is that good for you? By the way Bo buys 83 00:03:24,840 --> 00:03:26,919 Speaker 1: our guests, he's Democrat candidate for Secretary of State. Is 84 00:03:26,960 --> 00:03:30,400 Speaker 1: that good for you? Because on the one hand, he's 85 00:03:30,600 --> 00:03:32,960 Speaker 1: way underwater and people know who he is, the other hand, 86 00:03:33,160 --> 00:03:35,800 Speaker 1: all the Shenanigans he's pulled. People don't really know about 87 00:03:35,800 --> 00:03:37,240 Speaker 1: it yet. Does that work in your favor? 88 00:03:37,400 --> 00:03:39,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, because I'm gonna bust my butt. I'm gonna get 89 00:03:39,280 --> 00:03:40,680 Speaker 2: to all the ninety two counties of our state, and 90 00:03:41,120 --> 00:03:44,040 Speaker 2: I'm gonna tell people about this. How can you blame 91 00:03:44,080 --> 00:03:47,280 Speaker 2: people for their voting patterns when they're not informed about 92 00:03:47,320 --> 00:03:49,680 Speaker 2: the candidates. I'm going to get around our entire state. 93 00:03:49,760 --> 00:03:52,360 Speaker 2: I'm gonna have the resources to do that with some media, 94 00:03:52,560 --> 00:03:54,760 Speaker 2: and I'm gonna do it with my legs getting around 95 00:03:54,760 --> 00:03:56,640 Speaker 2: all ninety two counties. I'm gonna tell people about him. 96 00:03:56,640 --> 00:03:58,960 Speaker 2: I'm gonna tell people about me. I am the right 97 00:03:59,000 --> 00:04:01,640 Speaker 2: person for this office. Not partisan, Rob, it's not. The 98 00:04:01,720 --> 00:04:04,280 Speaker 2: office has nothing to do with your political party. It 99 00:04:04,280 --> 00:04:06,280 Speaker 2: has to do with good government. I mean the guys 100 00:04:06,320 --> 00:04:08,600 Speaker 2: wasting our money. People work really hard for their money. 101 00:04:08,600 --> 00:04:09,840 Speaker 2: I'm gonna save people money. 102 00:04:10,040 --> 00:04:12,520 Speaker 1: Bobi is our guest Democrat kadid for Secretary of State. 103 00:04:12,560 --> 00:04:16,000 Speaker 1: All right, So I think a lot of people are 104 00:04:16,000 --> 00:04:20,480 Speaker 1: gonna be very interested on how you sort of overcome 105 00:04:20,760 --> 00:04:23,159 Speaker 1: the Democrat challenge, which is, hey, it's a sixty to 106 00:04:23,160 --> 00:04:27,080 Speaker 1: forty state. Obviously the Democrats. It's been a long time 107 00:04:27,440 --> 00:04:30,640 Speaker 1: since I guess what, Joe Donnelly and then Glinda Ritz 108 00:04:30,640 --> 00:04:33,040 Speaker 1: So it's been a decade plus. How do you get 109 00:04:33,160 --> 00:04:37,280 Speaker 1: enough Republican leaning voters to vote for you to make 110 00:04:37,400 --> 00:04:41,880 Speaker 1: up that pretty big gap in terms of voter voter tendencies. 111 00:04:41,400 --> 00:04:43,880 Speaker 2: For lack of a good question, the best thing about 112 00:04:43,920 --> 00:04:48,599 Speaker 2: this office in this race and my message, it's not partisan. Republicans. 113 00:04:48,760 --> 00:04:50,560 Speaker 2: You don't like wastefle spending. You don't like when our 114 00:04:50,600 --> 00:04:53,599 Speaker 2: secretary of State goes to hydrobad India doesn't tell us 115 00:04:53,600 --> 00:04:54,200 Speaker 2: who's paying for it. 116 00:04:54,200 --> 00:04:56,000 Speaker 1: Man, we're count on you to find out who paid 117 00:04:56,040 --> 00:04:57,320 Speaker 1: for the thing. That's your job. 118 00:04:57,560 --> 00:04:59,600 Speaker 2: Day one, we're doing an independent audit. We're gonna bring 119 00:05:00,040 --> 00:05:01,760 Speaker 2: you've probably had mice in your house. Your listeners have 120 00:05:01,800 --> 00:05:04,040 Speaker 2: had mice in their house. The exterminator comes over. When 121 00:05:04,040 --> 00:05:05,720 Speaker 2: they see one mouse, it means there's like fifty or 122 00:05:05,760 --> 00:05:07,880 Speaker 2: one hundred. This is just what we know with this guy. 123 00:05:08,000 --> 00:05:11,880 Speaker 2: Are you the exterminator? Are you running to be the exterminator? State? 124 00:05:12,279 --> 00:05:15,559 Speaker 2: Your resistant analogy? But look where there's smoke, there's fire. 125 00:05:15,960 --> 00:05:18,160 Speaker 2: Day one, we're going to conduct an independent audit of 126 00:05:18,200 --> 00:05:22,320 Speaker 2: this office. Republicans and Democrats alike can get behind cutting 127 00:05:22,320 --> 00:05:25,920 Speaker 2: out wasteful spending and blatant corruption in politics. This guy, 128 00:05:26,000 --> 00:05:29,320 Speaker 2: Rob has given out no bid contracts to his campaign 129 00:05:29,400 --> 00:05:32,159 Speaker 2: donors from out of state software companies. I mean, look, 130 00:05:32,200 --> 00:05:34,599 Speaker 2: he's supposed to be in charge of registering the businesses 131 00:05:34,680 --> 00:05:37,040 Speaker 2: in our state. Can you imagine. Can you imagine your 132 00:05:37,040 --> 00:05:40,360 Speaker 2: listeners probably are business owners. Can you imagine registering your 133 00:05:40,400 --> 00:05:42,880 Speaker 2: new business as an entrepreneur with our state and wanting 134 00:05:42,920 --> 00:05:44,919 Speaker 2: a good partner in a Secretary of State's office, and 135 00:05:44,960 --> 00:05:47,440 Speaker 2: this guy's giving out no bid contracts to his donors. 136 00:05:47,800 --> 00:05:49,800 Speaker 2: That is not a good partner. How can you trust 137 00:05:49,800 --> 00:05:52,839 Speaker 2: that person to help you found your business and be successful. 138 00:05:52,880 --> 00:05:53,640 Speaker 2: It's ridiculous. 139 00:05:54,279 --> 00:05:57,159 Speaker 1: So you have, like we said, an uphill climb. And 140 00:05:57,240 --> 00:05:58,839 Speaker 1: by the way, I think that's great that you're going 141 00:05:58,920 --> 00:06:01,120 Speaker 1: to do that, because I think we talked about this 142 00:06:01,120 --> 00:06:03,760 Speaker 1: on our show. Not only you run against Diego Morales, 143 00:06:03,760 --> 00:06:05,479 Speaker 1: there's a lot of people who have been totally complicit 144 00:06:05,720 --> 00:06:08,360 Speaker 1: in what he's doing. I think most people that say 145 00:06:08,400 --> 00:06:11,400 Speaker 1: does know exactly what he is. And the fact that 146 00:06:11,440 --> 00:06:14,240 Speaker 1: the governor won't do anything about it, the attorney general 147 00:06:14,279 --> 00:06:16,480 Speaker 1: won't do anything about it. It's really going to take 148 00:06:16,480 --> 00:06:18,600 Speaker 1: somebody to get in that office because you will get 149 00:06:18,600 --> 00:06:20,240 Speaker 1: access to all the stuff. You're going to be able 150 00:06:20,240 --> 00:06:20,960 Speaker 1: to open those doors. 151 00:06:21,000 --> 00:06:23,960 Speaker 2: You're right, and look, this is this goes to the 152 00:06:23,960 --> 00:06:26,719 Speaker 2: heart of a big problem in Indiana politics that I 153 00:06:26,720 --> 00:06:29,000 Speaker 2: think you and I agree on. Mitch Daniels agrees with 154 00:06:29,040 --> 00:06:32,120 Speaker 2: me on this. He's written extensively on this. Diego Morales 155 00:06:32,320 --> 00:06:35,280 Speaker 2: is the product of twenty five years of no competition 156 00:06:35,360 --> 00:06:38,279 Speaker 2: in politics. Right, this is what happens. It's just like business, 157 00:06:38,360 --> 00:06:41,200 Speaker 2: if you have if there are no competing businesses in 158 00:06:41,240 --> 00:06:43,400 Speaker 2: an area, the one business in town can jack up 159 00:06:43,440 --> 00:06:46,640 Speaker 2: their prices and screw consumers. That's what's happening here. He 160 00:06:46,680 --> 00:06:49,520 Speaker 2: does not feel like he has to take good actions, 161 00:06:49,640 --> 00:06:52,200 Speaker 2: good steps for good government, because he feels like there 162 00:06:52,200 --> 00:06:54,599 Speaker 2: are no repercussions for his bad actions. He's about to 163 00:06:54,600 --> 00:06:57,440 Speaker 2: find out that's not the case. It's not partisan. We 164 00:06:57,520 --> 00:07:00,920 Speaker 2: need competitive politics because it produces better results for voters. 165 00:07:00,920 --> 00:07:04,000 Speaker 2: It's not about Democrats Republicans. It's about people in office 166 00:07:04,080 --> 00:07:06,839 Speaker 2: who actually care about the taxpayer, who are competent at 167 00:07:06,880 --> 00:07:08,320 Speaker 2: their jobs, are not going to lie to you. 168 00:07:09,000 --> 00:07:10,560 Speaker 1: So I try to make this case. A lot on 169 00:07:10,600 --> 00:07:15,800 Speaker 1: this program, and I hear from people, many people they 170 00:07:15,800 --> 00:07:18,480 Speaker 1: will say, you know what, You're right, The Republicans are awful. 171 00:07:18,600 --> 00:07:22,360 Speaker 1: They're mismanaging our money, the crony capitalism. But boy, I 172 00:07:22,440 --> 00:07:24,760 Speaker 1: just there's a lot of extremists in the Democrat Party 173 00:07:24,760 --> 00:07:27,320 Speaker 1: and I just can't deal with that. How do you 174 00:07:27,440 --> 00:07:31,360 Speaker 1: overcome when there are some very loud voices in your 175 00:07:31,480 --> 00:07:35,320 Speaker 1: party who really alienate people who otherwise might be open 176 00:07:35,320 --> 00:07:36,480 Speaker 1: to voting for you. How do you deal with. 177 00:07:36,520 --> 00:07:41,960 Speaker 2: I hear you, I hear them, and can tell us. Look, 178 00:07:42,880 --> 00:07:45,560 Speaker 2: both political parties need to focus on the issues that 179 00:07:45,600 --> 00:07:50,040 Speaker 2: matter to most people. Most people people care about cost 180 00:07:50,080 --> 00:07:52,280 Speaker 2: of living. I mean, utility rates are through the roof 181 00:07:52,280 --> 00:07:54,040 Speaker 2: here in Indiana. You know that. I just passed the 182 00:07:54,080 --> 00:07:56,440 Speaker 2: AES building on the way in here. That's my utility company. 183 00:07:56,520 --> 00:07:59,200 Speaker 2: I pay those rates. Healthcare costs are rate too high. 184 00:07:59,280 --> 00:08:01,560 Speaker 2: Are roads and bridge are crumbling. We've gotta make sure 185 00:08:01,560 --> 00:08:03,760 Speaker 2: to keep our streets safe. These are the issues that 186 00:08:03,840 --> 00:08:06,840 Speaker 2: people care about. The Democratic parties, some factions of it 187 00:08:06,880 --> 00:08:09,240 Speaker 2: have been focused on things for way too long that 188 00:08:09,320 --> 00:08:11,640 Speaker 2: are just not the main issue for most people. So 189 00:08:11,680 --> 00:08:14,960 Speaker 2: you ask me how I'm gonna you know, attract voters 190 00:08:14,960 --> 00:08:17,320 Speaker 2: of the other party focus on the things that matter 191 00:08:17,400 --> 00:08:20,200 Speaker 2: to people, not some of the extremeist politics that we've seen. 192 00:08:20,800 --> 00:08:23,360 Speaker 1: So like with coaches in sports, like if their dad 193 00:08:23,440 --> 00:08:25,600 Speaker 1: was a coach, they call up their father, like, Hey, 194 00:08:25,600 --> 00:08:27,680 Speaker 1: what do you think about this game? Whatever? Do you 195 00:08:27,720 --> 00:08:30,720 Speaker 1: have those conversations with your dad or is it just like, Hey, 196 00:08:30,760 --> 00:08:33,640 Speaker 1: I'm gonna do my thing and I'll call him and 197 00:08:33,679 --> 00:08:35,880 Speaker 1: we'll talk about, you know, the Colts game this week, 198 00:08:35,920 --> 00:08:37,040 Speaker 1: Like what are those conversations? 199 00:08:37,080 --> 00:08:39,079 Speaker 2: Like, yeah, sometimes I'll ask him for advice. Sometimes he 200 00:08:39,120 --> 00:08:41,680 Speaker 2: gives unsolicit advice, like a lot of loving fathers out there, 201 00:08:42,600 --> 00:08:44,720 Speaker 2: and you know that can be good and bad, but 202 00:08:45,400 --> 00:08:47,360 Speaker 2: you know it's this is my own thing. I got 203 00:08:47,360 --> 00:08:49,480 Speaker 2: to make my own way. And you might in twenty 204 00:08:49,520 --> 00:08:52,600 Speaker 2: sixteen people say, oh, well, you know you're benefiting a 205 00:08:52,600 --> 00:08:55,280 Speaker 2: ton from your dad's your dad's legacy. And I get 206 00:08:55,280 --> 00:08:57,440 Speaker 2: that one hundred percent get that. I'm not naive. But 207 00:08:57,520 --> 00:08:59,600 Speaker 2: he did lose his last campaign in twenty sixteen by 208 00:08:59,600 --> 00:09:00,760 Speaker 2: a healthy margin to an. 209 00:09:00,640 --> 00:09:01,680 Speaker 1: Idiot to Todd Young. 210 00:09:01,800 --> 00:09:04,599 Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, well, actually I Todd Young, say what you 211 00:09:04,640 --> 00:09:06,720 Speaker 2: will about him. He's a marine. I'm a marine. He 212 00:09:06,760 --> 00:09:08,920 Speaker 2: actually he I had a problem with my g I 213 00:09:08,960 --> 00:09:10,920 Speaker 2: built benefits. I gave his office a call. They were 214 00:09:10,920 --> 00:09:12,839 Speaker 2: on it right away, So I do appreciate that. 215 00:09:12,920 --> 00:09:14,320 Speaker 1: Now, now you get a lot of credit though you've 216 00:09:14,360 --> 00:09:16,120 Speaker 1: been here for ten minutes and you did not mention 217 00:09:16,200 --> 00:09:17,520 Speaker 1: you were a marine, which is way more than you 218 00:09:17,559 --> 00:09:19,280 Speaker 1: ever get out of Todd Young Congratulations. 219 00:09:19,280 --> 00:09:21,160 Speaker 2: Well, look, I appreciate his service. 220 00:09:21,160 --> 00:09:23,920 Speaker 1: All right. Our guest is bo Baye, Democrat candidate or 221 00:09:24,040 --> 00:09:26,000 Speaker 1: Secretary of State. Let's take a break. When we come back, 222 00:09:26,000 --> 00:09:27,320 Speaker 1: we'll get to some of the issues. How does he 223 00:09:27,360 --> 00:09:29,600 Speaker 1: feel about voter I D How does he feel about 224 00:09:29,600 --> 00:09:31,280 Speaker 1: ballot initiatives? We'll get to that in a lot more. 225 00:09:31,360 --> 00:09:37,880 Speaker 1: Kennel A Casey Show ninety three w IBC first get 226 00:09:37,960 --> 00:09:50,160 Speaker 1: good after in for Casey bo Ba Democrat Kennedy for 227 00:09:50,240 --> 00:09:52,840 Speaker 1: Secretary of State. He is our guest, so let's talk 228 00:09:52,880 --> 00:09:55,120 Speaker 1: about some of the positions you have. You have said, 229 00:09:55,160 --> 00:09:58,240 Speaker 1: I think it is a very smart voter id off table. 230 00:09:58,240 --> 00:09:59,840 Speaker 1: We're not touching voter id long. 231 00:10:00,240 --> 00:10:04,160 Speaker 2: And we rob by the way. We in our state 232 00:10:04,320 --> 00:10:07,240 Speaker 2: must have secure elections. There is no room, no room 233 00:10:07,280 --> 00:10:09,560 Speaker 2: in our state for illegal voting. But at the same token, 234 00:10:10,000 --> 00:10:12,840 Speaker 2: I think it's a shame that Indiana ranks fiftieth bottom 235 00:10:12,880 --> 00:10:14,440 Speaker 2: of the country in voter participation. 236 00:10:14,520 --> 00:10:16,360 Speaker 1: Why is that is because. 237 00:10:16,040 --> 00:10:18,640 Speaker 2: The number one reason I've read studies about this, I 238 00:10:18,679 --> 00:10:21,920 Speaker 2: doubt Diego Moralysis studied this issue because, to be honest 239 00:10:21,920 --> 00:10:25,280 Speaker 2: with you, I don't think he cares. Voter apathy. People 240 00:10:25,320 --> 00:10:27,040 Speaker 2: don't go to the polls because they feel like their 241 00:10:27,120 --> 00:10:29,400 Speaker 2: voice doesn't matter, like they're just casting their ballot into 242 00:10:29,400 --> 00:10:34,800 Speaker 2: the abyss. Your listeners know about this partisan redistricting effort 243 00:10:34,800 --> 00:10:36,680 Speaker 2: that's going on. Yeah, what do you think that's going 244 00:10:36,760 --> 00:10:39,360 Speaker 2: to do to voter apathy? If we further gerrymander our 245 00:10:39,360 --> 00:10:43,679 Speaker 2: congressional maps where where we have very non competitive elections, 246 00:10:43,679 --> 00:10:45,080 Speaker 2: people are not going to go to the polls because they're 247 00:10:45,080 --> 00:10:47,760 Speaker 2: going to say, why am I voting? This outcome is predetermined. 248 00:10:47,880 --> 00:10:49,640 Speaker 1: So I think the big thing for you, though, is 249 00:10:49,920 --> 00:10:52,160 Speaker 1: you're fine with voter id in the state of media. 250 00:10:52,160 --> 00:10:54,040 Speaker 1: You're not going to push to change that. No, Okay, 251 00:10:54,320 --> 00:10:57,600 Speaker 1: let's talk about the ballot referendums, because that'd be an 252 00:10:57,600 --> 00:11:00,200 Speaker 1: act of the legislature. But you, as the elections chief, 253 00:11:00,200 --> 00:11:04,079 Speaker 1: would have some sway over that in terms of public influence. 254 00:11:04,280 --> 00:11:05,800 Speaker 1: Where are you out on ballot referendums. 255 00:11:05,840 --> 00:11:10,040 Speaker 2: I think it is time in Indiana, just like Florida, Missouri, 256 00:11:10,120 --> 00:11:13,440 Speaker 2: and Ohio, that we had a citizen led ballot referendum process. 257 00:11:13,800 --> 00:11:16,199 Speaker 2: I just mentioned Indiana ranks fiftieth bottom of the country 258 00:11:16,200 --> 00:11:20,679 Speaker 2: and voter participation that is in part droup drawn pushed 259 00:11:20,720 --> 00:11:24,000 Speaker 2: by voter apathy. Another part is people think that folks 260 00:11:24,000 --> 00:11:26,600 Speaker 2: in the state US just don't represent their interests. They're 261 00:11:26,640 --> 00:11:28,880 Speaker 2: just turned off from politics. Like my brother is one 262 00:11:28,880 --> 00:11:29,440 Speaker 2: of these people. 263 00:11:30,240 --> 00:11:33,360 Speaker 1: Can you He's nowhere to be found exactly, very happy. 264 00:11:33,400 --> 00:11:35,360 Speaker 2: He's living a great life in Carmel and with his 265 00:11:35,760 --> 00:11:39,480 Speaker 2: new wife and new job. So he's doing fine. But look, 266 00:11:39,679 --> 00:11:43,000 Speaker 2: can you imagine the energy that we can build in 267 00:11:43,000 --> 00:11:45,840 Speaker 2: our state, the voter turnout that could happen if we 268 00:11:45,960 --> 00:11:48,800 Speaker 2: let the people decide to have a voice in the 269 00:11:48,840 --> 00:11:51,720 Speaker 2: big issues of the day. That is going to drive turnout, 270 00:11:51,760 --> 00:11:53,600 Speaker 2: that's going to get people out to the polls. I 271 00:11:53,640 --> 00:11:55,560 Speaker 2: have a lot of faith robbed like you do in 272 00:11:55,679 --> 00:11:58,360 Speaker 2: Hoosiers deciding these issues and not the folks, the one 273 00:11:58,400 --> 00:12:01,160 Speaker 2: hundred and fifty people who are off by special interests 274 00:12:01,160 --> 00:12:03,320 Speaker 2: in the state House. I have faith in the in 275 00:12:03,360 --> 00:12:04,320 Speaker 2: Hoosiers deciding this. 276 00:12:04,600 --> 00:12:06,440 Speaker 1: Do you feel pressure that? 277 00:12:06,720 --> 00:12:06,920 Speaker 2: Look? 278 00:12:06,960 --> 00:12:08,480 Speaker 1: I mean, I think it's pretty obvious you're sort of 279 00:12:08,520 --> 00:12:10,960 Speaker 1: like the last hope for the Democrat Party in Indiana. 280 00:12:11,120 --> 00:12:13,920 Speaker 1: I mean, if you can't pull it off with your name, 281 00:12:14,480 --> 00:12:16,839 Speaker 1: with your your resources, I mean, you're going to be 282 00:12:16,880 --> 00:12:18,640 Speaker 1: a much better candidate than what they put forward in 283 00:12:18,720 --> 00:12:21,840 Speaker 1: the past. Is there pressure like, Hey, if this guy 284 00:12:21,960 --> 00:12:24,600 Speaker 1: can't do it, we're folding the tent and we're going home. 285 00:12:24,720 --> 00:12:26,520 Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't think about things that way. 286 00:12:26,559 --> 00:12:28,520 Speaker 2: All I can do is focus. You know, you're are 287 00:12:28,600 --> 00:12:30,120 Speaker 2: you football fan? Yeah? 288 00:12:30,120 --> 00:12:31,600 Speaker 1: I mean I've got an EU diploma on my while 289 00:12:31,640 --> 00:12:32,679 Speaker 1: I paid for it. 290 00:12:33,120 --> 00:12:35,640 Speaker 2: Well, Kazignetty likes to say, we have you know, we 291 00:12:35,679 --> 00:12:38,480 Speaker 2: focus on the next hour, best meeting, best walk through, 292 00:12:38,559 --> 00:12:40,960 Speaker 2: best practice, and then we go through quarter by quarter 293 00:12:41,000 --> 00:12:43,600 Speaker 2: in the game. You can't think about all these you know, 294 00:12:43,760 --> 00:12:46,720 Speaker 2: big kind of looming pressures on you. You just got 295 00:12:46,720 --> 00:12:48,960 Speaker 2: to focus on what is in front of me immediately today. 296 00:12:49,000 --> 00:12:51,320 Speaker 2: How can I win this moment? That's what I'm focused on, 297 00:12:51,360 --> 00:12:52,319 Speaker 2: not all those narratives. 298 00:12:52,320 --> 00:12:54,880 Speaker 1: A couple of minutes left with Bobi's Democrat candidate for 299 00:12:55,240 --> 00:12:59,839 Speaker 1: Secretary of State. So what's the next several months look 300 00:12:59,920 --> 00:13:02,240 Speaker 1: like like for you because one of the things that 301 00:13:02,400 --> 00:13:04,880 Speaker 1: you've done very well so far, and I think it's 302 00:13:04,880 --> 00:13:07,040 Speaker 1: even surprise surprising people. I think a lot of people 303 00:13:07,040 --> 00:13:08,600 Speaker 1: are like, well, it's Dad's go give him all this money. 304 00:13:08,679 --> 00:13:12,200 Speaker 1: He'll be fine. You're raising a lot of money, you know, say, 305 00:13:12,280 --> 00:13:15,640 Speaker 1: on your own. So what did the next couple of 306 00:13:15,640 --> 00:13:18,120 Speaker 1: months look like for you? And and address this amount 307 00:13:18,120 --> 00:13:19,800 Speaker 1: of money you think it's going to take to win 308 00:13:19,880 --> 00:13:20,400 Speaker 1: this race. 309 00:13:20,920 --> 00:13:22,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, so the next couple of months, I'm working at 310 00:13:22,840 --> 00:13:24,200 Speaker 2: a law from here in town, and you know, I 311 00:13:24,200 --> 00:13:26,600 Speaker 2: got bills to pay. Someone was saying the other day, well, 312 00:13:26,600 --> 00:13:29,360 Speaker 2: most people run for public office don't have jobs on 313 00:13:29,360 --> 00:13:30,920 Speaker 2: the side. I'm like, well, I mean well. 314 00:13:31,280 --> 00:13:32,680 Speaker 1: And I will say this for you. You showed up 315 00:13:32,720 --> 00:13:35,400 Speaker 1: on your own. There's no entourage here. Yeah, well I 316 00:13:35,400 --> 00:13:37,120 Speaker 1: can't afford it. I was like, shouldn't there be a 317 00:13:37,160 --> 00:13:39,400 Speaker 1: line of people behind you? You are by yourself? 318 00:13:39,440 --> 00:13:41,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, and does Diego Morales come on the show? 319 00:13:43,000 --> 00:13:43,240 Speaker 1: Yeah? 320 00:13:43,760 --> 00:13:46,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, you could probably show up with a bodyguard if Diego. 321 00:13:47,280 --> 00:13:49,679 Speaker 1: Diego and I had a little back and forth a 322 00:13:49,720 --> 00:13:50,720 Speaker 1: few months ago. 323 00:13:51,320 --> 00:13:52,319 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah. 324 00:13:52,520 --> 00:13:54,719 Speaker 1: He paid for India and everybody was eating their rubber chicken, Like, 325 00:13:54,760 --> 00:13:56,600 Speaker 1: what is this guy talking about? No, no, no, I 326 00:13:56,600 --> 00:13:58,719 Speaker 1: think I think that's really says a lot about you 327 00:13:58,760 --> 00:14:00,680 Speaker 1: that you can't you go play on your own, you 328 00:14:00,679 --> 00:14:01,040 Speaker 1: show up. 329 00:14:00,960 --> 00:14:03,720 Speaker 2: Well, I'm comfortable with our message. I'm comfortable talking to you, 330 00:14:03,800 --> 00:14:05,600 Speaker 2: I think, and I go places on my own, talk 331 00:14:05,600 --> 00:14:07,280 Speaker 2: to Hoosiers around the state. You asked me what I'm 332 00:14:07,280 --> 00:14:08,480 Speaker 2: going to do the next three months, I'm going to 333 00:14:08,520 --> 00:14:11,440 Speaker 2: get around to Chris cross our state to talk with people, 334 00:14:11,640 --> 00:14:14,800 Speaker 2: not just Democrats, Republicans, Independence alike. I'm going to talk 335 00:14:14,840 --> 00:14:16,400 Speaker 2: to them about our message. I'm going to hear their 336 00:14:16,840 --> 00:14:18,920 Speaker 2: where they're struggling in their in their life and how 337 00:14:18,960 --> 00:14:22,680 Speaker 2: I can address those concerns. And I look forward to 338 00:14:22,720 --> 00:14:24,880 Speaker 2: doing that. This is not a partisan office. I'm not 339 00:14:24,880 --> 00:14:26,280 Speaker 2: going to run it in a partisan Why it's time 340 00:14:26,320 --> 00:14:28,480 Speaker 2: we clean up the watfle spending, the corruption and the grift. 341 00:14:29,480 --> 00:14:31,400 Speaker 1: Let's talk about the fundraising. You're getting a lot of 342 00:14:31,440 --> 00:14:34,480 Speaker 1: big checks. What do you say to people who go, well, see, 343 00:14:34,520 --> 00:14:37,160 Speaker 1: he's just reaching into his dad's connections and he's just 344 00:14:37,680 --> 00:14:40,840 Speaker 1: you know, you know, just in the lineage, and he's 345 00:14:40,880 --> 00:14:42,720 Speaker 1: just as a family business. What do you say to 346 00:14:42,760 --> 00:14:43,280 Speaker 1: those people. 347 00:14:43,400 --> 00:14:47,120 Speaker 2: I would say we're building momentum here because people believe 348 00:14:47,240 --> 00:14:50,520 Speaker 2: in our message. You talked about the fundraising numbers. The 349 00:14:50,560 --> 00:14:52,640 Speaker 2: majority of the money that has come in in our 350 00:14:52,640 --> 00:14:56,479 Speaker 2: fundraising effort thus far has been from Republicans rob Republicans. 351 00:14:57,000 --> 00:15:00,280 Speaker 2: That goes to show how dissatisfied people are with our 352 00:15:00,280 --> 00:15:03,760 Speaker 2: current state of politics. It's not partisan. People want leaders, 353 00:15:04,000 --> 00:15:05,400 Speaker 2: and I hope to be one of these, one of 354 00:15:05,400 --> 00:15:08,080 Speaker 2: these leaders who bring people together, work with folks they 355 00:15:08,080 --> 00:15:11,560 Speaker 2: don't always agree with, unify people. That is our message 356 00:15:11,600 --> 00:15:13,760 Speaker 2: and that's why we've had early success in the fundraising department. 357 00:15:13,800 --> 00:15:15,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, you got some famous names on there, and I 358 00:15:15,400 --> 00:15:17,800 Speaker 1: decided I need more rich friends. My grandpa used give 359 00:15:17,840 --> 00:15:19,560 Speaker 1: me like twenty bucks each month, so I decided I 360 00:15:19,640 --> 00:15:21,920 Speaker 1: need I need more rich friends real quick. I want 361 00:15:21,920 --> 00:15:23,480 Speaker 1: to get to know you a little bit because I 362 00:15:23,520 --> 00:15:26,040 Speaker 1: think it's easy to say, oh, he's just coming back here, 363 00:15:26,080 --> 00:15:28,400 Speaker 1: he's doing this to use hoosiers. Talk a little bit 364 00:15:28,440 --> 00:15:31,160 Speaker 1: about your military service, because I think that says a 365 00:15:31,200 --> 00:15:34,360 Speaker 1: lot about somebody about that you could go any path 366 00:15:34,400 --> 00:15:36,720 Speaker 1: you wanted to go, and you decided to be willing 367 00:15:36,720 --> 00:15:38,040 Speaker 1: to wear the uniform for your country. 368 00:15:38,080 --> 00:15:42,080 Speaker 2: Well, thanks and you know. I people always ask me, well, 369 00:15:42,120 --> 00:15:43,840 Speaker 2: did your parents put pressure in your growing up? Your 370 00:15:43,880 --> 00:15:47,160 Speaker 2: dad was a senator, whatever. The only pressure my parents 371 00:15:47,240 --> 00:15:48,840 Speaker 2: put on me was to just give back and to 372 00:15:48,880 --> 00:15:50,600 Speaker 2: try and serve. And you can do that in a 373 00:15:50,600 --> 00:15:52,880 Speaker 2: ton of different ways. Besides being in the military. You 374 00:15:52,880 --> 00:15:54,680 Speaker 2: can be you know, you can be a journalist, like 375 00:15:54,800 --> 00:15:56,680 Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know if you'd like a journalist. 376 00:15:56,720 --> 00:15:59,120 Speaker 2: That might be a dirty word these days, but there's 377 00:15:59,160 --> 00:16:00,600 Speaker 2: just a ton of different ways to do that. And 378 00:16:00,680 --> 00:16:02,680 Speaker 2: so I decided to join the Marine Corps because I've 379 00:16:02,720 --> 00:16:04,760 Speaker 2: been very lucky in my life, Rob I've had a 380 00:16:04,760 --> 00:16:07,200 Speaker 2: lot of opportunities open to me that you know, I'm 381 00:16:07,320 --> 00:16:09,200 Speaker 2: very grateful for, and I feel an obligation to give 382 00:16:09,280 --> 00:16:12,520 Speaker 2: back and just do my part to defend our country. 383 00:16:12,680 --> 00:16:14,920 Speaker 2: The best thing about the Marine Corps, the best thing 384 00:16:14,920 --> 00:16:18,040 Speaker 2: about the military, is that people come from all different 385 00:16:18,680 --> 00:16:21,320 Speaker 2: walks of life, from big cities, little towns, from all 386 00:16:21,360 --> 00:16:24,600 Speaker 2: over and they vote for incredibly different people. We have 387 00:16:24,680 --> 00:16:27,000 Speaker 2: different politics, but at the end of the day, in 388 00:16:27,040 --> 00:16:29,280 Speaker 2: the Marine Corps, I was an infantry officer in the 389 00:16:29,320 --> 00:16:32,840 Speaker 2: Marine Corps, right, it is my job as the leader 390 00:16:33,000 --> 00:16:35,280 Speaker 2: to take all of these different people and orient them 391 00:16:35,280 --> 00:16:37,480 Speaker 2: toward a common goal. We didn't ask each other who 392 00:16:37,520 --> 00:16:39,120 Speaker 2: we voted for because it didn't matter. We had a 393 00:16:39,200 --> 00:16:42,240 Speaker 2: mission to accomplish. We need more of that spirit, that 394 00:16:42,320 --> 00:16:43,800 Speaker 2: type of leadership in our politics. 395 00:16:43,800 --> 00:16:45,880 Speaker 1: And thing I like about your military service is there's 396 00:16:45,920 --> 00:16:48,280 Speaker 1: more than just one file photo of you. This was 397 00:16:48,320 --> 00:16:50,600 Speaker 1: one studio portrait. 398 00:16:51,040 --> 00:16:52,200 Speaker 2: Is that diego? 399 00:16:54,360 --> 00:16:56,000 Speaker 1: I mean, there's not more, just means that's the one 400 00:16:56,040 --> 00:16:59,360 Speaker 1: we keep saying. Hey, before I let you go. It's 401 00:16:59,440 --> 00:17:02,720 Speaker 1: interesting because everybody talks about your dad, your grandpa, but 402 00:17:02,760 --> 00:17:04,240 Speaker 1: I want I want you to talk about your mom 403 00:17:04,320 --> 00:17:06,359 Speaker 1: for a minute, because I was talking to my mom 404 00:17:06,440 --> 00:17:07,800 Speaker 1: the other day about you know, you're coming on the 405 00:17:07,840 --> 00:17:10,399 Speaker 1: show and she listens as to program, and when she 406 00:17:10,600 --> 00:17:13,800 Speaker 1: was talking about your family and were lifelong Hoosier so 407 00:17:13,800 --> 00:17:16,520 Speaker 1: we obviously remember when your your dad was governor and 408 00:17:16,800 --> 00:17:19,600 Speaker 1: then you know your grandpa was a senator. She wasn't 409 00:17:19,600 --> 00:17:22,480 Speaker 1: talking about any of that. She just said his mom 410 00:17:22,640 --> 00:17:26,440 Speaker 1: was such an outstanding, beautiful person. And I just want 411 00:17:26,480 --> 00:17:28,120 Speaker 1: to give you a moment to talk about that, because 412 00:17:28,160 --> 00:17:29,760 Speaker 1: it probably gets old just talking about your dad and 413 00:17:29,760 --> 00:17:31,040 Speaker 1: your grandpa. And I know your mom was a big 414 00:17:31,040 --> 00:17:31,520 Speaker 1: part of your life. 415 00:17:31,800 --> 00:17:33,760 Speaker 2: She was just an amazing woman in so many ways, 416 00:17:33,760 --> 00:17:35,040 Speaker 2: and I was just very lucky to have her as 417 00:17:35,040 --> 00:17:37,399 Speaker 2: a mom. She busted my butt growing up trying to 418 00:17:37,400 --> 00:17:40,040 Speaker 2: get me a study and do I'm looking At the time, 419 00:17:40,080 --> 00:17:41,640 Speaker 2: I was not always a fan of it, but looking back, 420 00:17:41,680 --> 00:17:43,399 Speaker 2: I mean, everything I've done in my life or I've 421 00:17:43,400 --> 00:17:46,760 Speaker 2: been able to accomplish, has been ninety five percent my 422 00:17:46,840 --> 00:17:49,000 Speaker 2: mom's energy to me and my brother's lives. And I'm 423 00:17:49,040 --> 00:17:50,919 Speaker 2: very because that's not always a case with people and 424 00:17:50,960 --> 00:17:52,680 Speaker 2: their kids. And I'm very lucky to have her. I mean, 425 00:17:52,720 --> 00:17:55,480 Speaker 2: she was just a wonderful lady. She was an attorney, 426 00:17:55,560 --> 00:17:57,959 Speaker 2: very accomplished in her own right. She put herself through 427 00:17:58,000 --> 00:18:00,159 Speaker 2: law school. Rob she was from southern California, so she 428 00:18:00,200 --> 00:18:02,399 Speaker 2: always liked to have as a Hoosier by choice. Yeah, 429 00:18:02,520 --> 00:18:04,600 Speaker 2: she put herself through law school waiting tables and doing 430 00:18:04,640 --> 00:18:07,720 Speaker 2: beauty pageants. And she always said she was Miss Southern California. 431 00:18:07,760 --> 00:18:10,280 Speaker 2: She always said, you know, there was probably prettier girls 432 00:18:10,280 --> 00:18:11,760 Speaker 2: on the stage, but they asked you kind of like 433 00:18:11,800 --> 00:18:14,040 Speaker 2: geopolitical questions and things like that. She knocked those out 434 00:18:14,080 --> 00:18:15,960 Speaker 2: of the park. So she was just a wonderful lady. 435 00:18:15,960 --> 00:18:20,119 Speaker 2: We lost her gosh, four years ago now she passed 436 00:18:20,119 --> 00:18:23,400 Speaker 2: away from gioblastomo, which is an aggressive form of brain cancer. 437 00:18:23,480 --> 00:18:25,720 Speaker 2: But I was just so lucky to have her for 438 00:18:25,920 --> 00:18:27,040 Speaker 2: all those years in my life. 439 00:18:27,240 --> 00:18:28,879 Speaker 1: All Right, we'll have you back plenty of times for 440 00:18:29,040 --> 00:18:31,520 Speaker 1: the election. I just wanted to take a few moments 441 00:18:31,560 --> 00:18:34,119 Speaker 1: to you know, people are talking about you, what you're doing, 442 00:18:35,320 --> 00:18:38,680 Speaker 1: and look, I'm cheering for you because I think you're 443 00:18:38,720 --> 00:18:41,240 Speaker 1: sort of the only only chance we've got to find 444 00:18:41,240 --> 00:18:45,560 Speaker 1: out how corrupt these Republicans actually are. And you know, 445 00:18:45,800 --> 00:18:47,679 Speaker 1: I want to I want to thank you for running. 446 00:18:47,680 --> 00:18:50,000 Speaker 1: I think you give the Democrats an actual chance in 447 00:18:50,000 --> 00:18:53,280 Speaker 1: this race, and we'll see how it goes. But yeah, 448 00:18:53,280 --> 00:18:54,520 Speaker 1: we'll look forward to having you back a we get 449 00:18:54,520 --> 00:18:55,680 Speaker 1: closer to the election. 450 00:18:55,760 --> 00:18:57,480 Speaker 2: I look forward to it. Thank you to your listeners, 451 00:18:57,480 --> 00:19:00,240 Speaker 2: and Rob, thank you to you. You're a rare thing today, Oh, 452 00:19:00,600 --> 00:19:03,520 Speaker 2: an independent voice who's willing to call out both sides 453 00:19:03,560 --> 00:19:06,280 Speaker 2: and politics, the corruption that we've seen in the Statehouse, 454 00:19:06,400 --> 00:19:09,199 Speaker 2: the wasteful spending it can exist in both parties. Just 455 00:19:09,240 --> 00:19:11,520 Speaker 2: happens to be Diego Morales as a Republican, but we 456 00:19:11,600 --> 00:19:15,239 Speaker 2: got to just as common sense taxpayers and just you know, 457 00:19:15,480 --> 00:19:17,040 Speaker 2: normal people. We gott to call this stuff out. You're 458 00:19:17,040 --> 00:19:17,639 Speaker 2: doing a good job at that. 459 00:19:17,800 --> 00:19:19,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, thanks, Bo, appreciate you. Man, all right. Kennel Case 460 00:19:19,960 --> 00:19:21,200 Speaker 1: Show ninety three, WIBC