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Speaker 1: Thursday at the NFL Combine, and we are live from

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Speaker 1: Radio Road the Convention Center our location, and I guess

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Speaker 1: James Boyd today we I guess a.

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Speaker 2: Step further in the combine. Players will work out this afternoon.

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Speaker 2: Defensive guys, DB's linebackers, is that right?

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Speaker 3: Totals so DB's and linebackers today or the D line.

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Speaker 2: I think in linebackers today, I think DB's meeting the

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Speaker 2: media today. That would be one d Angelo Pond. So

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Speaker 2: you have a big crowd for sure, definitely, So we'll

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Speaker 2: get into that. Three o'clock today is when I believe

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Speaker 2: workouts begin for those looking for quarterbacks. You'll see that

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Speaker 2: Saturday afternoon on NFL Network. NFL Draft analyst Dane Brugler

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Speaker 2: will join us live here. You want to talk about

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Speaker 2: a big d Angel Ponds fan, join us live here

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Speaker 2: coming up about eight point fifteen. If you missed our

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Speaker 2: chat with Chris Ballard to end yesterday's show, frankly bleeding

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Speaker 2: into the ten o'clock show, we'll rerack that for you

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Speaker 2: here coming up at seven thirty. Good morning, how.

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Speaker 3: Are you man? I'm good.

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Speaker 4: As I was telling you before we got on air,

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Speaker 4: it's a long week here at the combine and when

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Speaker 4: you live here, the endless question you get is where

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Speaker 4: you're staying when you're heading home, Like I'm already home,

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Speaker 4: but then the next question is, okay, we where are

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Speaker 4: you heading out to? So yeah, I've been a lot

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Speaker 4: of late nights, but it's been good, see a lot

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Speaker 4: of people that I usually only see on zoom or

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Speaker 2: I butchered it so bad. Yesterday I saw a dude

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Speaker 2: and I thought he was gonna go with how are you?

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Speaker 2: So I just my first word was good, and he

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Speaker 2: went with high. He said high, and I said good.

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Speaker 4: I mean, in fairness to us, Kevin, we're usually what

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Speaker 4: one of ten people here this early, and we kind

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Speaker 4: of have to be here a little bit on a

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Speaker 4: little more engaged than others have to.

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Speaker 2: Be for the entire day. Not my smoothest moment, to

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Speaker 2: say the least. Here Mark Decton, how you doing back

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Speaker 2: in studio?

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Speaker 3: Brother?

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Speaker 5: Hanging in there, doing just fine. Miss I got the update.

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Speaker 2: The ham and bear shirt will be delivered Saturday.

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Speaker 5: Okay, you're gonna stop by assuming drop it off for

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Speaker 5: me personally.

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Speaker 2: I assume, yeah, you got the kids for the next

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Speaker 2: drop off mark shirt. I don't know if that'll go

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Speaker 5: out their new like golf facilities, so we can do that.

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Speaker 3: Well, now you're talking here, I don't know.

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Speaker 4: I feel like both of you wearing those hamm and

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Speaker 4: shirts would be quite the story on like Fox fifty

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Speaker 5: Local idiots wear bear shirts and break in the high

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Speaker 2: So again we are live here. It'll be myself, James Boyd.

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Speaker 2: They get a cam on site engineer forgetting this hooked

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Speaker 2: up and ready to go each and every morning. Field

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Speaker 2: Yates form Espno joint is coming up on tomorrow's show

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Speaker 2: as we close out the week here. From a combine standpoint,

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Speaker 2: I do want to get into specifically in regards to

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Speaker 2: our combo with Chris Baller today, one item we agreed with,

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Speaker 2: one item we disagreed with from the GM again, it

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Speaker 2: was about a half hour combo yesterday. I would say

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Speaker 2: the bulk of it focused kind of on the twenty

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Speaker 4: I agree with what he said about crawled out on

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Speaker 4: the pacers. Yeah, definitely screwing that was.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he gave Rick a little bit of his own

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Speaker 2: aspect of the interview is how things kind of closed

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Speaker 2: get you set for tonight. It'll be a wide out

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Speaker 2: inside of Mackie Arena. And you think about this gauntlet

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Speaker 3: Up for absolutely.

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Speaker 4: And I still think we've talked about this, Kevin, that

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Speaker 4: they're a good team, it's can you be great? And

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Speaker 4: So big one obviously for them, and we're getting down

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Speaker 4: March Madness.

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Speaker 2: At eight o'clock on the cock tonight. That is purduing

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Speaker 2: Michigan State great point guard matchup in that one between

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Speaker 4: I'll tell you, Jeremy Fears grew up where I grew up.

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Speaker 4: and so it is kind of weird to see those kids.

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Speaker 3: It's balling out.

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Speaker 4: Now, you got one that's you know, are be one

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Speaker 3: Is that where younger brothers went one and done well.

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Speaker 2: I hope Jeremy Fierce behaves tonight because if he doesn't,

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Speaker 2: the paint crew will certainly let him know. Six and

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Speaker 2: I was I was really, I guess shocked, James when

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Speaker 4: Ooh I'm gonna say it's probably something like seven and

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Speaker 2: The Charlotte Hornets are favored by thirteen Joey Lord over

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Speaker 4: I would say the Hornets have been one of the

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Speaker 4: But maybe they're believing that Rick Carlo was going to

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Speaker 2: So well, I don't know, it sounds like Obie Topping

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Speaker 3: I didn't see the questionable. Yeah, that was.

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Speaker 2: of Vitza Zoo Bots is where Carlisle said to us earlier.

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Speaker 3: In the week.

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Speaker 2: In the next couple of weeks, you know, it's not

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Speaker 2: But I guess I bring all that up to say

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Speaker 3: I don't think you want to get hot.

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Speaker 2: Granted, if you look at March James, they could be

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and I do think they've how do I phrase this,

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Speaker 4: interesting to see how they will kind of play down

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Speaker 4: you want to play for Rick Carlisle. You want to

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Speaker 4: your teammates will be in the mix. No, it's not

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Speaker 4: just get your feet wet, get those I guess not

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Speaker 3: Wait, it's not hanging over your head going into next year.

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Speaker 2: Part of what today's about at the combine and again

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Speaker 2: Center again later today, you'll get the d lineman and

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Speaker 2: the linebackers that will work out over at Lucas Sol Stadium,

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Speaker 2: but the defensive backs will meet the media. We mentioned

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Speaker 2: the Angelo Ponds earlier, you know, shout out to Westfield's

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Speaker 2: own Dylan Thineman started his football career at Purdue from

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Speaker 2: a collegiate standpoint transfer to Oregon, and you look at

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Speaker 2: some of these mock drafts and his name is going

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Speaker 2: comfortably in around one. So when we have Dane Brugler

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Speaker 2: Dane seems to be pretty high on a lot of

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Speaker 2: local flavor, whether it's d Angelo Ponds, whether it's Dylan Thieman,

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Speaker 2: whether it's Omar Cooper Junior as well. So you know,

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Speaker 2: when we've had Dane on in the past, James, it's

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Speaker 3: In for Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Over the last year, you're trying to figure out, Okay,

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Speaker 3: Right live here at the Combine.

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Speaker 2: It is the Fan Morning Show.

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Speaker 3: If you missed our.

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Speaker 2: We're still defensively focused. The DBS will chat with the

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the whole Rose Bull. I think it's still fresh

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean like you've got to I think you believe.

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Speaker 2: been so successful?

437
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Speaker 8: I would tell you a lot. It was the one put,

438
00:19:58,840 --> 00:20:02,120
Speaker 8: it was the it was the hardest to learn. Okay,

439
00:20:02,280 --> 00:20:05,399
Speaker 8: it just took years to learn what played in the

440
00:20:05,480 --> 00:20:09,560
Speaker 8: league and then what was successful in the league. Being

441
00:20:09,560 --> 00:20:12,280
Speaker 8: with Jerry Angelo, I thought he thought he did a

442
00:20:12,320 --> 00:20:15,080
Speaker 8: really good job. Bobby DePaul at the time, who was

443
00:20:15,119 --> 00:20:17,320
Speaker 8: our pro director, and then going with coach Reid and

444
00:20:17,400 --> 00:20:21,280
Speaker 8: JOHNS Dorsey really kind of clarified everything. Okay, here's what

445
00:20:21,320 --> 00:20:23,919
Speaker 8: we're looking for and here's what succeeds in the league.

446
00:20:24,840 --> 00:20:26,479
Speaker 8: You got to get a little luck sometimes where it

447
00:20:26,520 --> 00:20:29,719
Speaker 8: falls your way, which we've you know gotten, but on

448
00:20:29,760 --> 00:20:32,360
Speaker 8: the flip side of that, we've been able to identify

449
00:20:32,400 --> 00:20:35,679
Speaker 8: the right traits and a player that can make them successful.

450
00:20:35,720 --> 00:20:37,919
Speaker 8: I he you know Will Fries who went on and

451
00:20:38,480 --> 00:20:40,080
Speaker 8: you know, has had a heck of a career and

452
00:20:40,160 --> 00:20:43,240
Speaker 8: as a seventh round pick and done tremendous. So our

453
00:20:43,280 --> 00:20:46,560
Speaker 8: group does a great job. I mean, we talked consistently

454
00:20:46,600 --> 00:20:50,199
Speaker 8: about it, and it's always going to position that you

455
00:20:50,240 --> 00:20:53,120
Speaker 8: don't ever want to go short because it when when

456
00:20:53,160 --> 00:20:54,280
Speaker 8: the season hits.

457
00:20:54,400 --> 00:20:57,840
Speaker 9: I mean, take quarterback out of the equation. The bigs are.

458
00:20:57,720 --> 00:21:00,920
Speaker 8: The hardest to find on the on the street. They're

459
00:21:01,000 --> 00:21:03,320
Speaker 8: just not there, you know, And that's why you've always

460
00:21:03,359 --> 00:21:06,280
Speaker 8: seen us go heavy on the old line D line.

461
00:21:06,359 --> 00:21:09,959
Speaker 8: That's as the attrition through this season, you know, builds up,

462
00:21:09,960 --> 00:21:12,520
Speaker 8: and it does. I mean every year, the team you

463
00:21:12,560 --> 00:21:16,360
Speaker 8: start with in August is never the same team you're

464
00:21:16,400 --> 00:21:19,080
Speaker 8: getting you're playing with in December. So you've got to

465
00:21:19,119 --> 00:21:21,359
Speaker 8: have enough depth and the bigs are the ones you

466
00:21:21,400 --> 00:21:23,440
Speaker 8: always got to try to find and stay with.

467
00:21:23,880 --> 00:21:27,400
Speaker 2: Conversely, d N has not had anywhere near that sort

468
00:21:27,440 --> 00:21:31,639
Speaker 2: of success. Why and has your evaluation of that position

469
00:21:31,680 --> 00:21:34,280
Speaker 2: group needed to change draft wise over the years.

470
00:21:34,359 --> 00:21:38,360
Speaker 8: Yeah, I don't, you know, and you're right, we've not produced.

471
00:21:38,920 --> 00:21:41,040
Speaker 8: The one real disappointing thing for me is we've not

472
00:21:41,840 --> 00:21:44,800
Speaker 8: found a guy that you know, is an elite rusher.

473
00:21:45,240 --> 00:21:47,200
Speaker 8: I think we've had good rushers. I think a lot

474
00:21:47,200 --> 00:21:51,400
Speaker 8: too still is coming into his own. It takes time

475
00:21:51,480 --> 00:21:55,120
Speaker 8: to learn how to rush in this league, and us

476
00:21:55,160 --> 00:21:58,520
Speaker 8: not being in the playoffs has not been able to

477
00:21:58,600 --> 00:22:02,160
Speaker 8: show kind of the the world you know, how he

478
00:22:02,200 --> 00:22:05,480
Speaker 8: plays and not getting that exposure. So I do think

479
00:22:05,520 --> 00:22:07,320
Speaker 8: he has a lot of upside, And look, I don't

480
00:22:07,320 --> 00:22:08,880
Speaker 8: want to take anything away from some of the guys.

481
00:22:09,000 --> 00:22:10,760
Speaker 9: Quitty pay play good football for us.

482
00:22:11,480 --> 00:22:15,160
Speaker 8: Sometimes the expectations of a first round pick, no matter

483
00:22:15,200 --> 00:22:16,760
Speaker 8: if he's the first pick of the draft or the

484
00:22:16,800 --> 00:22:20,360
Speaker 8: twentieth pick of the draft. Everybody think, Okay, he's automatically

485
00:22:20,440 --> 00:22:23,679
Speaker 8: going to be a ten to fifteen sack guy automatically,

486
00:22:23,760 --> 00:22:25,280
Speaker 8: And that's that's not the case.

487
00:22:26,400 --> 00:22:27,760
Speaker 9: To giggles sometimes because.

488
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Speaker 8: I think we broke the sack record a couple of

489
00:22:29,440 --> 00:22:32,200
Speaker 8: years ago, and we did it without you know, without

490
00:22:32,200 --> 00:22:34,560
Speaker 8: Freennie and Mathis who were you know, in my mind,

491
00:22:35,280 --> 00:22:36,960
Speaker 8: you know two hall of fame, one of them already

492
00:22:36,960 --> 00:22:38,040
Speaker 8: in the Hall of Fame and the other one should

493
00:22:38,040 --> 00:22:39,639
Speaker 8: be Chris.

494
00:22:39,640 --> 00:22:42,560
Speaker 4: When you look back on last season, obviously you all

495
00:22:42,600 --> 00:22:46,399
Speaker 4: had the eight and two star finished eight nine. You

496
00:22:46,400 --> 00:22:48,600
Speaker 4: can look at it through two lenses of we were

497
00:22:48,640 --> 00:22:50,919
Speaker 4: great the first half, not scrid second half. How do

498
00:22:50,960 --> 00:22:53,719
Speaker 4: you evaluate the whole thing when you know it's year

499
00:22:53,760 --> 00:22:56,359
Speaker 4: to your league and your final records eight nine?

500
00:22:56,480 --> 00:22:58,480
Speaker 8: Well, the one Shane and I have talked a lot

501
00:22:58,480 --> 00:23:00,520
Speaker 8: about this, and we've talked about it as a group,

502
00:23:00,600 --> 00:23:05,480
Speaker 8: you know, coaching staff and scouting that like the we

503
00:23:05,600 --> 00:23:09,920
Speaker 8: got to find a way to win, you know, these

504
00:23:10,040 --> 00:23:13,360
Speaker 8: tough ball games. We lost so many down the stretch

505
00:23:14,119 --> 00:23:17,200
Speaker 8: that were you know, a play here, play there, and

506
00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:20,080
Speaker 8: like injuries are not an excuse.

507
00:23:20,119 --> 00:23:22,200
Speaker 9: In this league, they're just they're gonna happen.

508
00:23:22,600 --> 00:23:25,640
Speaker 8: Injuries are gonna happen, and you've got to be able

509
00:23:25,640 --> 00:23:28,000
Speaker 8: to overcome that. And you've got to be able to

510
00:23:28,040 --> 00:23:30,600
Speaker 8: get in a street fight sometimes and win the street fight,

511
00:23:31,280 --> 00:23:35,800
Speaker 8: and like, don't like one day, I've told Shane this

512
00:23:35,840 --> 00:23:37,600
Speaker 8: little fun like don't lose.

513
00:23:37,760 --> 00:23:39,280
Speaker 9: Let's start with don't lose the game.

514
00:23:39,680 --> 00:23:42,800
Speaker 8: Okay, if you look at our record eight and two,

515
00:23:42,800 --> 00:23:44,600
Speaker 8: and we were playing really good football, I think we

516
00:23:44,640 --> 00:23:47,880
Speaker 8: were plus nine and then you look at the last

517
00:23:48,720 --> 00:23:50,880
Speaker 8: the last eight games of the season, I think we're

518
00:23:51,000 --> 00:23:56,440
Speaker 8: minus nine, are minus ten. So just turning the football

519
00:23:56,480 --> 00:23:59,639
Speaker 8: over and not playing taking care of the things that

520
00:23:59,760 --> 00:24:03,080
Speaker 8: you have to do to win. We have got to

521
00:24:03,119 --> 00:24:06,960
Speaker 8: improve on that, without question, and it's and it's hard.

522
00:24:07,160 --> 00:24:08,680
Speaker 8: I don't want to sit here and say I don't

523
00:24:08,680 --> 00:24:10,239
Speaker 8: think eight and two is mirage. I think we had

524
00:24:10,480 --> 00:24:14,040
Speaker 8: a really good football team. But even if we'd have

525
00:24:14,040 --> 00:24:18,920
Speaker 8: remained healthy, Okay, everybody's healthy and we're going you can't

526
00:24:20,400 --> 00:24:23,399
Speaker 8: play and turn the ball over and do things that

527
00:24:23,760 --> 00:24:26,639
Speaker 8: are not winning football. I don't care who you have.

528
00:24:27,200 --> 00:24:30,359
Speaker 8: So we've got to improve and excited about, you know,

529
00:24:30,400 --> 00:24:32,159
Speaker 8: the things we have coming back and the plan we

530
00:24:32,200 --> 00:24:33,080
Speaker 8: have going forward.

531
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Speaker 9: So we'll go from.

532
00:24:35,240 --> 00:24:37,119
Speaker 3: There along those lines.

533
00:24:37,320 --> 00:24:40,760
Speaker 4: Chris, what is the balance of believing in what you

534
00:24:40,760 --> 00:24:42,960
Speaker 4: saw when you were eight and two and then talking

535
00:24:42,960 --> 00:24:45,760
Speaker 4: to saying yesterday, talking to you over the years, knowing

536
00:24:45,840 --> 00:24:48,240
Speaker 4: that you can't get too caught up with what you

537
00:24:48,320 --> 00:24:51,480
Speaker 4: were because this league, especially, it changes on a dime.

538
00:24:51,680 --> 00:24:55,960
Speaker 8: Yeah, and every year is different. Every team's different. It's

539
00:24:56,080 --> 00:24:59,760
Speaker 8: never the same. And I can't sit or say okay,

540
00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:02,520
Speaker 8: look back, snap my finger and say okay, everything's gonna

541
00:25:02,560 --> 00:25:03,120
Speaker 8: be Okay.

542
00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:05,560
Speaker 9: We were eight and two. We're just gonna go off that. Now.

543
00:25:05,960 --> 00:25:09,040
Speaker 8: Now we have improvement we have to make in a

544
00:25:09,080 --> 00:25:11,159
Speaker 8: lot of different areas on the team. We had to

545
00:25:11,160 --> 00:25:14,359
Speaker 8: continue to increase the depth of our team and the

546
00:25:14,400 --> 00:25:17,840
Speaker 8: competition our team and then allow our guys to compete

547
00:25:17,880 --> 00:25:20,560
Speaker 8: and guys that are earning it making sure they're getting

548
00:25:20,560 --> 00:25:24,399
Speaker 8: on the field. But every year is different. This is

549
00:25:24,440 --> 00:25:27,040
Speaker 8: a new year. We're excited about where we're going, but

550
00:25:27,119 --> 00:25:29,760
Speaker 8: we got work to do. We do and it's a

551
00:25:29,800 --> 00:25:32,600
Speaker 8: bunch of work. And you know, between now and started

552
00:25:32,640 --> 00:25:35,440
Speaker 8: the season, you know we're gonna work pretty effort, you know,

553
00:25:35,520 --> 00:25:37,280
Speaker 8: tiresly to get it done.

554
00:25:37,200 --> 00:25:39,520
Speaker 4: One more and I'll pass it to Jeff. But talk

555
00:25:39,560 --> 00:25:41,280
Speaker 4: about work to do. We talk a lot about al

556
00:25:41,440 --> 00:25:44,560
Speaker 4: Pearce and obviously Daniel Jones. Another free agent to be

557
00:25:45,080 --> 00:25:48,760
Speaker 4: is Nick Cross. How would you evaluate his season the

558
00:25:48,840 --> 00:25:51,000
Speaker 4: last couple of years and also what he means to

559
00:25:51,040 --> 00:25:52,880
Speaker 4: this team and possibly trying to bring him back?

560
00:25:52,960 --> 00:25:57,680
Speaker 8: It was Nick Nick was a so we it's never

561
00:25:57,720 --> 00:26:01,160
Speaker 8: a player's fault when you draft them at twenty years old.

562
00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:04,800
Speaker 8: You know, they don't get they we choose them, okay,

563
00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:08,040
Speaker 8: And so to what, Nick's still I think he's still

564
00:26:08,040 --> 00:26:09,720
Speaker 8: twenty four. He might have turned twenty five, but he

565
00:26:09,840 --> 00:26:12,280
Speaker 8: I think he's twenty four still. So we drafted him

566
00:26:12,320 --> 00:26:15,160
Speaker 8: at twenty and then we were we thrust him into

567
00:26:15,160 --> 00:26:18,160
Speaker 8: a trying to get him in there right away, and

568
00:26:18,640 --> 00:26:21,199
Speaker 8: he just wasn't quite ready. And so to watch his

569
00:26:21,440 --> 00:26:25,680
Speaker 8: growth has been really, you know, fun to watch. I've

570
00:26:25,680 --> 00:26:27,760
Speaker 8: said this multiple times, like one of the really neat

571
00:26:27,840 --> 00:26:32,680
Speaker 8: things about the job is watching guys mature and turn

572
00:26:32,720 --> 00:26:35,200
Speaker 8: into men. You know, they're not men when they come

573
00:26:35,240 --> 00:26:37,040
Speaker 8: into this league. They think they are, but they're not.

574
00:26:37,320 --> 00:26:42,520
Speaker 8: But to watch them mature turn in two men into professionals,

575
00:26:43,440 --> 00:26:45,440
Speaker 8: and that's when one of the cool things about Nick,

576
00:26:46,080 --> 00:26:47,480
Speaker 8: he does mean a lot. We have a lot of

577
00:26:47,520 --> 00:26:50,280
Speaker 8: moving parts here, so we'll see it it works out.

578
00:26:50,320 --> 00:26:53,320
Speaker 8: We've had talks with his representative. I've known him well,

579
00:26:54,160 --> 00:26:55,800
Speaker 8: and I'm proud of Nick, and I'm happy for Nick.

580
00:26:55,880 --> 00:26:59,679
Speaker 8: And look sometimes like for players, and I tell him

581
00:26:59,720 --> 00:27:02,240
Speaker 8: this one their rookies, like, they're gonna come a point

582
00:27:02,240 --> 00:27:04,720
Speaker 8: when you and I don't agree, and you don't like

583
00:27:04,840 --> 00:27:09,920
Speaker 8: me because of finances, don't like. There's this big pie

584
00:27:09,960 --> 00:27:14,600
Speaker 8: and I can we can slice it up and give

585
00:27:14,640 --> 00:27:16,760
Speaker 8: that piece of the pie, and somebody might be willing

586
00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:18,120
Speaker 8: to give you a bigger piece of the pine.

587
00:27:18,119 --> 00:27:20,920
Speaker 9: And if that happens, good. We've both done our jobs.

588
00:27:20,960 --> 00:27:23,000
Speaker 8: We've done our job developing you, and you've done an

589
00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:26,800
Speaker 8: unbelievable job taking the coaching and getting better and each

590
00:27:26,840 --> 00:27:29,320
Speaker 8: and every year, and you deserve this opportunity. So we'll

591
00:27:29,359 --> 00:27:31,320
Speaker 8: see what the future holds with Nick. I'm proud of him,

592
00:27:31,560 --> 00:27:34,760
Speaker 8: I'm happy for him. He made it the free agency

593
00:27:34,760 --> 00:27:37,400
Speaker 8: and he's made it on a high note. So we'll

594
00:27:37,400 --> 00:27:38,400
Speaker 8: see how that works out.

595
00:27:39,320 --> 00:27:42,560
Speaker 10: Talk about secondary if money Ward decides to come back,

596
00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:45,280
Speaker 10: and we don't know that answer quite yet, but do

597
00:27:45,320 --> 00:27:48,159
Speaker 10: you still get excited about the possibility of having everybody

598
00:27:48,160 --> 00:27:50,359
Speaker 10: that you put together last year healthy and able to

599
00:27:50,359 --> 00:27:52,000
Speaker 10: play for a significant.

600
00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:53,639
Speaker 3: Chunk of a season. Talk to me about what.

601
00:27:54,040 --> 00:27:57,040
Speaker 10: You think of health right now for that overall group

602
00:27:57,040 --> 00:27:58,240
Speaker 10: and what you think is possible.

603
00:27:59,000 --> 00:28:02,840
Speaker 8: Well, look, it's a it's a very you know, we're humming.

604
00:28:02,920 --> 00:28:06,320
Speaker 8: It's a very talented group. And Mooney, like, Mooney's a

605
00:28:06,359 --> 00:28:10,720
Speaker 8: really special young man and he's been through some hard

606
00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:14,720
Speaker 8: things in life. Okay, I talked to Mooney this morning.

607
00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:18,080
Speaker 8: I called him drivers the best. His voice just sounded

608
00:28:21,080 --> 00:28:24,880
Speaker 8: really positive and good of where he's at all, right,

609
00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:27,159
Speaker 8: and uh, and he went to work. He knew he

610
00:28:27,160 --> 00:28:30,000
Speaker 8: had to do some work, not just you know, on

611
00:28:30,040 --> 00:28:32,600
Speaker 8: the injury stuff, but you know also personally. You know,

612
00:28:32,640 --> 00:28:34,400
Speaker 8: he's had some hard things in his life that he's

613
00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:39,000
Speaker 8: had to overcome and that's not easy. And then being

614
00:28:39,040 --> 00:28:42,360
Speaker 8: able to get you know, if if Mooney's here, which

615
00:28:42,520 --> 00:28:46,000
Speaker 8: you know, anticipating, yes, but if he's here, and then

616
00:28:46,320 --> 00:28:50,280
Speaker 8: you know, you got sauce. When you have two corners

617
00:28:50,320 --> 00:28:53,520
Speaker 8: that can play man to man, it helps.

618
00:28:53,200 --> 00:28:53,959
Speaker 9: The rest of it.

619
00:28:53,960 --> 00:28:56,440
Speaker 8: It's going to allow lou and the defense to do

620
00:28:57,240 --> 00:28:59,920
Speaker 8: a defensive staff to do some things that I think

621
00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:02,360
Speaker 8: really gonna help us. And I think you saw some

622
00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:05,680
Speaker 8: really good stuff when they were in there together, like

623
00:29:05,720 --> 00:29:08,680
Speaker 8: when the Kansas City game, like when they played now

624
00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:11,960
Speaker 8: they ended up having to play ninety five snaps, And look,

625
00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:14,959
Speaker 8: the more snaps you give Andy Reid and Pat Mahomes,

626
00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:18,560
Speaker 8: eventually they're gonna, I don't I don't care who you got,

627
00:29:18,600 --> 00:29:21,520
Speaker 8: they're gonna they're gonna get you. But we played a

628
00:29:21,520 --> 00:29:23,320
Speaker 8: lot of Manda Man in that game, and they held

629
00:29:23,400 --> 00:29:26,520
Speaker 8: up really well for a long time. I'm so excited

630
00:29:26,560 --> 00:29:28,640
Speaker 8: about seeing, you know, trying to get those two on

631
00:29:28,680 --> 00:29:31,120
Speaker 8: the field together and and and seeing what they could do.

632
00:29:31,280 --> 00:29:33,240
Speaker 2: Gett live here at the combine and Chris Ballard Colts

633
00:29:33,320 --> 00:29:37,360
Speaker 2: GM is with us on radio row. Chris, you've largely

634
00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:42,520
Speaker 2: had the same captains throughout this playoff drought. How do

635
00:29:42,560 --> 00:29:47,000
Speaker 2: you evaluate the leadership of your football team when a

636
00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:49,960
Speaker 2: the playoff success hasn't been there be the late season

637
00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:51,920
Speaker 2: collapses have been pretty annual.

638
00:29:52,120 --> 00:29:54,840
Speaker 8: Yeah, no, and that's a fair that's a fair question.

639
00:29:55,520 --> 00:29:58,280
Speaker 8: Shane and I have actually we've had discussions about that

640
00:29:59,360 --> 00:30:00,520
Speaker 8: because we have I mean.

641
00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:01,880
Speaker 9: Look y'all go through a locker room. We have really

642
00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:07,520
Speaker 9: good dudes. They care, they want to win. They do

643
00:30:07,560 --> 00:30:10,840
Speaker 9: everything they can in their power to do the right things.

644
00:30:11,800 --> 00:30:16,440
Speaker 8: We we have to make sure that they're getting I mean,

645
00:30:16,520 --> 00:30:18,920
Speaker 8: you know, leaders, you know, we got to help them

646
00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:21,920
Speaker 8: lead sometimes, if that makes sense. I mean, we all

647
00:30:21,960 --> 00:30:25,080
Speaker 8: have growth to do, even all. I mean I have

648
00:30:25,160 --> 00:30:27,480
Speaker 8: growth to do in that area, and they do, and

649
00:30:27,520 --> 00:30:29,680
Speaker 8: we need to do. We need to help them grow

650
00:30:29,760 --> 00:30:33,480
Speaker 8: along the way too of things that we want done

651
00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:37,040
Speaker 8: to make sure that that is getting spread through the

652
00:30:37,080 --> 00:30:39,280
Speaker 8: locker room. I think Shane does a really good job now,

653
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Speaker 8: but you know, just at this at this time, you know,

654
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Speaker 8: because of the results, it hadn't been what we wanted.

655
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Speaker 8: So we've got to make sure that we're leading them

656
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Speaker 8: in the right direction.

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Speaker 2: To you expect Zia Franklin back.

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Speaker 9: We'll see loves I Eir.

659
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Speaker 8: I think like my relationship with him. He's very honest

660
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Speaker 8: and he's very strong. Will Darius was very similar Leonard

661
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Speaker 8: and usually good players are like that.

662
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Speaker 9: So we'll see how it plays out. I'm a when football.

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Speaker 8: I'll tell you this, when football is over, Zaire Franklin

664
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Speaker 8: is going to be a star, and whatever he decides

665
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Speaker 8: to do in life, he is smart, he is extremely

666
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Speaker 8: mentally tough. He's everything you want in a in a

667
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Speaker 8: in a player in terms of makeup.

668
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Speaker 2: So was you a fan of the podcast?

669
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Speaker 8: Needless to say, Zaire and I've had some some some discussions.

670
00:31:41,800 --> 00:31:44,240
Speaker 9: About the podcast. Look, here's what I do like.

671
00:31:44,320 --> 00:31:47,160
Speaker 8: I love that he's passionate about what could be next

672
00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:49,200
Speaker 8: in life, like every one of our players. I want

673
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Speaker 8: that for But also, you know, sometimes we've got to

674
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Speaker 8: learn to temper some of the words that come out

675
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Speaker 8: of our mouths.

676
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Speaker 9: And that includes me. This is not that's growth, right.

677
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Speaker 4: There, Curs Worres this morning from Chris Valley, and we

678
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Speaker 4: have coach GM Chris Ballor live from the Combine joining

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Speaker 4: us here on the Fan Morning Show. Chris, when you

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Speaker 4: look at Anthony's entire tenure here in Indianapolis, how would

681
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Speaker 4: you evaluate it?

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Speaker 3: Number one?

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Speaker 4: And number two will like, how Crystal is his future here?

684
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Speaker 4: And I and I get that you believe in him.

685
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Speaker 4: You've been championing him since for everything up in ups

686
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Speaker 4: and downs, and I mean I've been guilty of criticizing

687
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Speaker 4: you and and him, but when he doesn't and Daniel exactly, yeah.

688
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Speaker 3: All of them. You know, I don't know.

689
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Speaker 4: But my point is, when you're evaluating him, how do you,

690
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Speaker 4: I guess, figure out what his future is here when

691
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Speaker 4: you're also trying to resign Daniel Jones and Riley has

692
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Speaker 4: shown some things as well.

693
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Speaker 9: Look, you can never have enough good players at one position.

694
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Speaker 8: All right, let's let's that's They might not be always

695
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Speaker 8: happy about it, but you can't have enough good players.

696
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Speaker 8: And look, it is hard to evaluate him right now.

697
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Speaker 8: Anthony's still young. I mean, he is still young.

698
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Speaker 9: I want to say, he's twenty four years old, all right,

699
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Speaker 9: So the future is still in front of Anthony.

700
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Speaker 8: The injuries always make it tough to finish it, to

701
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Speaker 8: get a complete evaluation. And look, if you look at

702
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Speaker 8: the history of some of these quarterbacks that have gotten

703
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Speaker 8: hurt early in their careers and had some real struggles,

704
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Speaker 8: but they come out the other Side's kind of like

705
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Speaker 8: I talked about yesterday about you know, you got to

706
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Speaker 8: stand at the end of the edge of the abyss

707
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Speaker 8: and not jump. He hasn't jumped, which is a is

708
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Speaker 8: a good thing.

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Speaker 9: I'm proud of him. He's had some unfortunate bad luck.

710
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Speaker 9: But we'll see how it goes going forward.

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Speaker 8: I know this, he works, I know this offseason he's worked,

712
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Speaker 8: he's working with his guy down there that I think

713
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Speaker 8: a lot of and so we'll see what the future

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Speaker 8: holds with them.

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Speaker 10: Speaking of that, what did you think of the late

716
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Speaker 10: season performance of Riley Letter?

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Speaker 9: It was fun? I mean, look, it's fun to watch.

718
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Speaker 8: I mean it was The game wasn't too big for him,

719
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Speaker 8: which is always number one thing you look at.

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Speaker 9: You know, is the game too fast and too big

721
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Speaker 9: for him? And it's not.

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Speaker 8: And you're some about a young man that played in

723
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Speaker 8: a lot of big games in college, So that that

724
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Speaker 8: part really didn't surprise us because it wasn't too big

725
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Speaker 8: for him. His ability to like he has worked really

726
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Speaker 8: hard mechanically getting the ball out faster, like he took

727
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Speaker 8: to like our internally, our guys do a We bring

728
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Speaker 8: a guy named Chris has who who does some sequencing

729
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Speaker 8: analysis on our quarterbacks, and you know, he had some

730
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Speaker 8: se I mean all of it's a it's a constant

731
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Speaker 8: involvement when you're talking mechanics of quarterbacks, like they're always

732
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Speaker 8: it's like a pitcher, they're always working it. And he

733
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Speaker 8: took the information and work with our strength staff really

734
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Speaker 8: hard on things he needed to he needed to do

735
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Speaker 8: with his sequencing, and it's getting better and it was

736
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Speaker 8: fun to watch. In that Houston game, it all kind

737
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Speaker 8: of come together. Now, you know, like any young quarterback,

738
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Speaker 8: you're gonna you know, you gotta live with the ups

739
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Speaker 8: and downs.

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Speaker 9: But but he's really smart.

741
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Speaker 8: He's got really good poise, and he can create Those

742
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Speaker 8: are things that I think you saw in the games

743
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Speaker 8: he played in. I thought to throw the against I mean, look,

744
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Speaker 8: when when Daniel got hurt, we all were at the game,

745
00:35:35,040 --> 00:35:39,440
Speaker 8: you could feel kind of a like, h the energy

746
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Speaker 8: just gets sucked.

747
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Speaker 9: He came in the game and played well. If you

748
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Speaker 9: remember he.

749
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Speaker 8: Threw the he threw the ball to Pittman on a

750
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Speaker 8: back shoulder for a touchdown that you know, whether I

751
00:35:50,040 --> 00:35:51,480
Speaker 8: agree with the car or not, it was p I

752
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Speaker 8: but still in the moment of when and he had

753
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Speaker 8: just come in the game that that kind of gave

754
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Speaker 8: us some hope. Okay, look it's not big form. He

755
00:36:01,160 --> 00:36:03,000
Speaker 8: can make some plays. And then going into the Houston

756
00:36:03,040 --> 00:36:05,880
Speaker 8: game against look that first half that was their starting defense,

757
00:36:05,920 --> 00:36:09,520
Speaker 8: and he performed well. But like any young quarterback, we

758
00:36:09,560 --> 00:36:11,719
Speaker 8: got to work on the turnovers. Can't turn the ball over,

759
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Speaker 8: and you know there's sometimes where a play is dead

760
00:36:16,600 --> 00:36:18,520
Speaker 8: and you just got to understand it's dead. That's part

761
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Speaker 8: of his growth. But excited about Riley and where he's going.

762
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Speaker 2: Do you see an extension for Alec as an either

763
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Speaker 2: or if Pitt is back?

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Speaker 8: No? No, I think we got it. We're still we'll

765
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Speaker 8: work through that. I mean, like plans can be a

766
00:36:36,040 --> 00:36:38,440
Speaker 8: little I wish there was a like you could just

767
00:36:38,480 --> 00:36:40,440
Speaker 8: write on pay Okay, here's the plan. This is how

768
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Speaker 8: it's gonna go. This is the amount of money this

769
00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:44,359
Speaker 8: guy's gonna cost. This is and it fits into a

770
00:36:44,640 --> 00:36:49,920
Speaker 8: perfect box. Well, unfortunately that box is it gets determined

771
00:36:49,960 --> 00:36:53,919
Speaker 8: sometimes by the market, all right, which it does, and

772
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Speaker 8: so it's it's fluid.

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Speaker 9: It's very fluid.

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Speaker 2: Would you say that to achieve the off season goals,

775
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Speaker 2: you might have to part ways with guys you've re

776
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Speaker 2: signed and or restructure, which is a little bit foreign

777
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Speaker 2: for you.

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Speaker 9: That could happen, Yeah, that could happen.

779
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Speaker 8: The good look, here's the good news, Like going forward,

780
00:37:13,520 --> 00:37:17,560
Speaker 8: we're in very good cap and financial shape. Mike Bloom

781
00:37:17,560 --> 00:37:20,680
Speaker 8: has done a really good job making sure that not

782
00:37:20,719 --> 00:37:24,360
Speaker 8: only this year, but you know, future years are.

783
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Speaker 9: Set up in a way where you know, we can.

784
00:37:27,960 --> 00:37:29,320
Speaker 9: We're still open to do business.

785
00:37:29,360 --> 00:37:32,960
Speaker 8: We've not ever boxed ourselves in to where we're hamstrung

786
00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:33,759
Speaker 8: on what we can do.

787
00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:38,319
Speaker 4: Chris, you were pretty quick in the NFC and press

788
00:37:38,320 --> 00:37:40,560
Speaker 4: conference to back Daniel Jones to say he can be

789
00:37:40,600 --> 00:37:42,400
Speaker 4: your short and long term.

790
00:37:42,320 --> 00:37:46,000
Speaker 3: Solution at quarterback. Why do you believe in him so much?

791
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Speaker 4: And do you think that commitment to him was already

792
00:37:48,360 --> 00:37:52,160
Speaker 4: made because this is how we evaluated. Hey gave him

793
00:37:52,160 --> 00:37:53,960
Speaker 4: two first round pick of sas Gardner. You don't do

794
00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:56,319
Speaker 4: that if you don't believe in your quarterback. So what

795
00:37:56,360 --> 00:37:57,879
Speaker 4: are your thoughts on that part of it and also

796
00:37:58,000 --> 00:37:59,600
Speaker 4: moving forward trying to.

797
00:37:59,480 --> 00:38:00,000
Speaker 2: Get him here?

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Speaker 8: Yep, No, have a strong belief in Daniel and you

799
00:38:05,880 --> 00:38:08,560
Speaker 8: know he he's a quarterback that did he had to go.

800
00:38:08,680 --> 00:38:11,680
Speaker 8: You know, he went to New York, had some struggles early,

801
00:38:12,040 --> 00:38:14,040
Speaker 8: and I still thought even through the struggles, he played

802
00:38:14,040 --> 00:38:17,680
Speaker 8: pretty good football and you know, take him to the playoffs,

803
00:38:17,680 --> 00:38:20,000
Speaker 8: whins a playoff game. They signed him to extension and

804
00:38:20,040 --> 00:38:22,440
Speaker 8: then kind of the wheels came off. So he is

805
00:38:22,480 --> 00:38:24,759
Speaker 8: a quarterback that's standard, stood on the end of the

806
00:38:24,760 --> 00:38:27,799
Speaker 8: abyss and did not jump and when we got him,

807
00:38:28,280 --> 00:38:33,360
Speaker 8: just his daily professionalism and the way he works and

808
00:38:33,400 --> 00:38:38,920
Speaker 8: then to perform. To go out and perform.

809
00:38:37,480 --> 00:38:38,440
Speaker 9: Gave you some confidence.

810
00:38:38,440 --> 00:38:41,920
Speaker 8: Look, I can't sit here and say, uh, there's always

811
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Speaker 8: going to be some doubt when it comes to injuries,

812
00:38:44,440 --> 00:38:48,000
Speaker 8: because look, he's had he's had some injuries. But there's

813
00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:51,200
Speaker 8: been some other cases that we've studied and looked at

814
00:38:51,320 --> 00:38:54,680
Speaker 8: where they've had some injuries too, quarterbacks have and they've

815
00:38:54,680 --> 00:38:56,879
Speaker 8: come back and they've had long, successful careers. I'm willing

816
00:38:56,920 --> 00:38:58,920
Speaker 8: to bet on that, and I'm willing to bet on,

817
00:38:59,120 --> 00:39:02,200
Speaker 8: you know, Daniel just because of who he is, what

818
00:39:02,280 --> 00:39:08,200
Speaker 8: he stands for, and his his passion to play the

819
00:39:08,320 --> 00:39:10,040
Speaker 8: game and to be great at the game.

820
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Speaker 9: It's a he.

821
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Speaker 8: He is a He's not just a nine to five guy.

822
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Speaker 9: I'll never forget.

823
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Speaker 8: We're dt David Thorton and I were walking out of

824
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Speaker 8: the building for the seat. We had just named him

825
00:39:22,880 --> 00:39:25,399
Speaker 8: the starter about a week before. And we're walking out

826
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Speaker 8: of the building about eight thirty at night and Daniel

827
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Speaker 8: comes walking back in the.

828
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Speaker 9: Building with some food. What are you doing?

829
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Speaker 8: Because I gotta he was I'm getting ready you know

830
00:39:36,480 --> 00:39:38,799
Speaker 8: for the you know, for our first game, and here's

831
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Speaker 8: I got some things I need to finish up. He'd

832
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Speaker 8: gone to eat. Then he's like, I gotta come back

833
00:39:43,719 --> 00:39:46,680
Speaker 8: and finish this stuff up. So no, you I'm willing you.

834
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Speaker 8: You bet on a guy that that like that, that

835
00:39:49,320 --> 00:39:50,840
Speaker 8: he's he's going to come out the other end the

836
00:39:50,840 --> 00:39:52,360
Speaker 8: way we want it to happen.

837
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Speaker 4: And then, Chris, you're going into your tenth season. I

838
00:39:56,080 --> 00:39:58,000
Speaker 4: was going through Google and you look a little younger

839
00:39:58,040 --> 00:39:59,680
Speaker 4: back then. I guess we all did. I I was

840
00:39:59,680 --> 00:40:00,600
Speaker 4: in high school or whatever.

841
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Speaker 8: But in college see this day, Hey, you don't have that.

842
00:40:04,960 --> 00:40:07,040
Speaker 8: You know why, because you don't have any stress.

843
00:40:07,120 --> 00:40:11,040
Speaker 9: All this gray. See the difference. But you got that,

844
00:40:11,560 --> 00:40:14,480
Speaker 9: but you got that sick. I can't. I can't die

845
00:40:14,520 --> 00:40:17,320
Speaker 9: this because it's come out gray. And if I diet,

846
00:40:17,360 --> 00:40:21,160
Speaker 9: everybody will give me cramp for it. They're starting to

847
00:40:21,200 --> 00:40:21,960
Speaker 9: show up on you.

848
00:40:21,760 --> 00:40:24,520
Speaker 8: You got about and look here and let me tell

849
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Speaker 8: you something, James, next time I see you, they better

850
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Speaker 8: not be They better not be black.

851
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Speaker 3: Isn't back your guy? Oh no, he's no doubt.

852
00:40:35,360 --> 00:40:40,920
Speaker 4: But along those lines, and you know jokes aside, you

853
00:40:40,920 --> 00:40:43,400
Speaker 4: say you always feel the pressure to deliver. Going to

854
00:40:43,520 --> 00:40:44,919
Speaker 4: a year where for the first time of your career,

855
00:40:44,920 --> 00:40:48,680
Speaker 4: going to find your of your contract. Does the pressure

856
00:40:48,880 --> 00:40:51,640
Speaker 4: change it all throughout your experience? Does it change you

857
00:40:51,680 --> 00:40:54,840
Speaker 4: at all? When you're going through a job like this

858
00:40:54,960 --> 00:40:57,040
Speaker 4: where every single thing that you do is going to

859
00:40:57,080 --> 00:41:00,520
Speaker 4: be evaluated, judged, critiqued. I'll probably do it myself again

860
00:41:00,560 --> 00:41:03,680
Speaker 4: this week. Like, how do you handle that and deal

861
00:41:03,719 --> 00:41:06,040
Speaker 4: with that knowing that you want to deliver so badly

862
00:41:06,719 --> 00:41:09,120
Speaker 4: and you could be running out of time?

863
00:41:09,280 --> 00:41:09,480
Speaker 9: Yeah?

864
00:41:09,719 --> 00:41:12,640
Speaker 8: I like the time thing.

865
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Speaker 9: I never like.

866
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Speaker 8: I don't get stressed about that. I'm passionate about. Like

867
00:41:19,760 --> 00:41:21,719
Speaker 8: when you look, I've had three I'll tell you this.

868
00:41:21,800 --> 00:41:25,560
Speaker 8: I've had three jobs, four jobs really since college. Okay

869
00:41:27,000 --> 00:41:32,600
Speaker 8: five if you count Hitchcock Junior High but Kingsville whereas

870
00:41:32,640 --> 00:41:35,279
Speaker 8: fortunate to learn a lot, Chicago, Kent City, and here.

871
00:41:35,880 --> 00:41:36,880
Speaker 9: I've been really blessed.

872
00:41:36,880 --> 00:41:42,080
Speaker 8: In every place i've left, it has been hard, Okay,

873
00:41:42,239 --> 00:41:45,799
Speaker 8: And why because I invest in people and I and

874
00:41:45,840 --> 00:41:47,560
Speaker 8: I don't this is I don't.

875
00:41:47,640 --> 00:41:49,520
Speaker 9: I've never seen it as just a job.

876
00:41:49,800 --> 00:41:52,640
Speaker 8: It's about the people in the building, connecting with the

877
00:41:52,640 --> 00:41:56,359
Speaker 8: people in the building and caring. And every place I've

878
00:41:56,400 --> 00:42:01,160
Speaker 8: left I've had tears because of it. And one day

879
00:42:01,280 --> 00:42:03,719
Speaker 8: it'll happen here in Indie, all right, you know, sooner

880
00:42:03,840 --> 00:42:07,040
Speaker 8: or later, nobody I can't tell the future. But there's

881
00:42:07,080 --> 00:42:09,680
Speaker 8: nothing more that I want than to win for the

882
00:42:09,680 --> 00:42:13,240
Speaker 8: fans of this city. They deserve it. We have great fans,

883
00:42:13,280 --> 00:42:16,839
Speaker 8: great people. I love the city, I love the way.

884
00:42:18,040 --> 00:42:20,960
Speaker 8: Look they're respectful. I know on social media they're not

885
00:42:21,000 --> 00:42:23,040
Speaker 8: respectful because they're too chicken.

886
00:42:23,440 --> 00:42:26,920
Speaker 9: Come say it in person. Can you blink? Did you

887
00:42:26,960 --> 00:42:32,600
Speaker 9: blink that mark? But saying that.

888
00:42:34,080 --> 00:42:37,640
Speaker 8: We've got we've got unbelievable fans and nothing more. I

889
00:42:37,680 --> 00:42:41,399
Speaker 8: want to win for them, and we're gonna put every year,

890
00:42:41,400 --> 00:42:43,520
Speaker 8: we put every bit of our effort into doing that.

891
00:42:44,239 --> 00:42:46,680
Speaker 8: It's hard to be in the arena. It's not for everybody,

892
00:42:47,040 --> 00:42:50,440
Speaker 8: Like it's not this when when you work in a

893
00:42:50,480 --> 00:42:54,400
Speaker 8: in a in a profession where everything you do is

894
00:42:54,440 --> 00:42:58,320
Speaker 8: going to be scrutinized right or wrong.

895
00:42:59,680 --> 00:43:01,359
Speaker 9: That's just you know what we do.

896
00:43:01,440 --> 00:43:04,279
Speaker 8: And I'm gonna tell you, Like, for my children, it's

897
00:43:04,320 --> 00:43:06,839
Speaker 8: been like this has been a cool thing for them,

898
00:43:06,920 --> 00:43:11,040
Speaker 8: kind of a cool outcome because they've seen the criticism

899
00:43:11,200 --> 00:43:14,479
Speaker 8: I take, and of course, look at it hurts them,

900
00:43:15,239 --> 00:43:19,640
Speaker 8: but they have figured out that, you know, I tell

901
00:43:19,640 --> 00:43:21,359
Speaker 8: them all the time, don't ever let another don't ever

902
00:43:21,440 --> 00:43:24,800
Speaker 8: let another man walk with her dirty feet in your mind. Okay,

903
00:43:25,480 --> 00:43:28,840
Speaker 8: do the best you can do at anything you're doing,

904
00:43:29,520 --> 00:43:35,200
Speaker 8: and don't for one second look back and regret anything

905
00:43:35,239 --> 00:43:39,720
Speaker 8: that has happened along the way. You can't please everybody

906
00:43:39,760 --> 00:43:44,040
Speaker 8: all the time, nothing more. There's nothing more I want

907
00:43:44,160 --> 00:43:47,880
Speaker 8: than being able to celebrate with our city downtown. And

908
00:43:47,920 --> 00:43:49,880
Speaker 8: that's still the vision and that's still the goal.

909
00:43:50,320 --> 00:43:50,640
Speaker 2: All right.

910
00:43:50,719 --> 00:43:52,319
Speaker 10: Last thing for me, I know that you and Rick

911
00:43:52,600 --> 00:43:55,040
Speaker 10: Carlisle will have each other's backs. He's let them back

912
00:43:55,080 --> 00:43:57,280
Speaker 10: and forth with the NBA with the last twenty four hours.

913
00:43:57,360 --> 00:43:59,560
Speaker 10: Anything you got for Adam Silver of the NBA today

914
00:43:59,600 --> 00:44:00,120
Speaker 10: on the base.

915
00:44:02,719 --> 00:44:05,640
Speaker 8: Look, I don't know enough about it other than I

916
00:44:05,680 --> 00:44:09,120
Speaker 8: love Rick Carlisle and I love the Pacer organization, and

917
00:44:09,200 --> 00:44:11,440
Speaker 8: I think they're freaking really good at their jobs.

918
00:44:12,880 --> 00:44:15,800
Speaker 3: I love it. I love it. You're getting the head.

919
00:44:17,360 --> 00:44:17,600
Speaker 9: Nie.

920
00:44:17,719 --> 00:44:19,719
Speaker 8: I know, Matt, he knew. I was wanting to give

921
00:44:19,719 --> 00:44:24,480
Speaker 8: an answer to they can't find me. I mean, Silver

922
00:44:24,560 --> 00:44:26,480
Speaker 8: can't find me if I tell them they screwed him

923
00:44:26,520 --> 00:44:29,359
Speaker 8: for freaking finding them one hundred grand. I don't work

924
00:44:29,400 --> 00:44:32,040
Speaker 8: for the NBA and I never will. I mean I

925
00:44:32,080 --> 00:44:34,200
Speaker 8: don't know what to tell you. I mean, they screwed him.

926
00:44:34,640 --> 00:44:36,719
Speaker 8: I mean, I know Rick, he's got integrity, I know

927
00:44:36,760 --> 00:44:40,600
Speaker 8: the organization. I shouldn't get match back. They're shaking his head. Anyway,

928
00:44:40,680 --> 00:44:41,200
Speaker 8: We're good.

929
00:44:43,320 --> 00:44:46,200
Speaker 2: That's Chris Ballard from yesterday at the Combine. Full interview

930
00:44:46,280 --> 00:44:49,880
Speaker 2: up on our websites. And on the other side, Dan Brugler,

931
00:44:50,000 --> 00:44:53,319
Speaker 2: NFL draft analysts, gonna join us here live at the Combine.

932
00:44:53,320 --> 00:44:56,160
Speaker 2: And one thing James and I agreed with, one thing

933
00:44:56,200 --> 00:44:59,440
Speaker 2: we disagreed with from Chris Ballard's chat. We'll do all

934
00:44:59,440 --> 00:45:07,640
Speaker 2: that right here on a Thursday at the Convention Center, live.

935
00:45:07,520 --> 00:45:11,080
Speaker 6: From the NFL Combine in downtown Indianapolis.

936
00:45:11,280 --> 00:45:13,400
Speaker 11: You were listening to the Fan Morning show.

937
00:45:14,160 --> 00:45:18,520
Speaker 3: He ain't gonna get me. I love that Adam. Adam

938
00:45:18,520 --> 00:45:19,359
Speaker 3: could get me by that.

939
00:45:19,480 --> 00:45:20,920
Speaker 11: But Goodell can't.

940
00:45:20,600 --> 00:45:23,000
Speaker 6: He can't, he can't get he can't touch me.

941
00:45:23,360 --> 00:45:26,360
Speaker 9: They can't find me, I mean, Silver can't find me.

942
00:45:26,400 --> 00:45:29,120
Speaker 8: If I tell them they screwed him for freaking finding

943
00:45:29,160 --> 00:45:31,160
Speaker 8: them one hundred grand. I don't work for the NBA

944
00:45:31,239 --> 00:45:33,759
Speaker 8: and I never will. I mean, I don't know what

945
00:45:33,800 --> 00:45:36,200
Speaker 8: to tell you. I mean they screwed him. I mean

946
00:45:36,360 --> 00:45:38,719
Speaker 8: I know Rick, he's got integrit, I know the organization.

947
00:45:39,239 --> 00:45:41,120
Speaker 12: What did we just become best friends?

948
00:45:41,200 --> 00:45:43,200
Speaker 3: Yep? Do you want to go do karate in the garage?

949
00:45:43,440 --> 00:45:43,680
Speaker 13: Yup?

950
00:45:43,840 --> 00:45:44,480
Speaker 3: We're screwing.

951
00:45:44,560 --> 00:45:51,960
Speaker 2: That was well Thursday at the NFL Combine. We are

952
00:45:52,000 --> 00:45:56,720
Speaker 2: live here from the Convention Center, Kevin Bowen and James Boyd.

953
00:45:56,800 --> 00:45:59,160
Speaker 2: Mark Dyton. I have a feeling that the audience might

954
00:45:59,200 --> 00:46:02,400
Speaker 2: react slightly different to those two voices that you just

955
00:46:02,640 --> 00:46:06,160
Speaker 2: played right there back on the re entry in regards

956
00:46:06,239 --> 00:46:09,680
Speaker 2: to maybe what the resumes look like. Nonetheless, we'll recap

957
00:46:09,760 --> 00:46:13,080
Speaker 2: what Chris Balla had to say yesterday with us. One

958
00:46:13,080 --> 00:46:15,200
Speaker 2: thing we agreed on, one thing we disagreed on. We'll

959
00:46:15,200 --> 00:46:18,200
Speaker 2: give that to you here for the rest of the show. Reminder,

960
00:46:18,320 --> 00:46:22,000
Speaker 2: Dane Brugler, NFL draft analysts colleague here of James Boyd.

961
00:46:22,239 --> 00:46:24,480
Speaker 2: He will join us coming up in a little over

962
00:46:24,560 --> 00:46:27,680
Speaker 2: ten minutes. Again, if you haven't been locked into Dane's

963
00:46:27,680 --> 00:46:30,000
Speaker 2: thoughts on the twenty twenty six draft class, he is

964
00:46:30,160 --> 00:46:33,160
Speaker 2: definitely high on several local guys. Whether you want to

965
00:46:33,239 --> 00:46:35,080
Speaker 2: label that as the Indiana guys, whether you want to

966
00:46:35,120 --> 00:46:39,640
Speaker 2: label that is Dylan Theeneman, the Westfield products. So always

967
00:46:39,680 --> 00:46:43,160
Speaker 2: look forward to our annual Dane Brugler chats here at

968
00:46:43,200 --> 00:46:47,160
Speaker 2: the Combine and we will do that in about ten minutes. James,

969
00:46:47,239 --> 00:46:48,719
Speaker 2: on the other side of the curtain. Right now, what

970
00:46:48,760 --> 00:46:50,360
Speaker 2: do we got is the DB's talking.

971
00:46:50,200 --> 00:46:51,680
Speaker 3: Is that right? I believe so.

972
00:46:51,680 --> 00:46:53,880
Speaker 2: So that would be D'Angelo Ponds, that would be Dylan

973
00:46:53,920 --> 00:46:57,520
Speaker 2: Theeneman here coming up this morning. Reminder, if you're into

974
00:46:57,800 --> 00:47:00,080
Speaker 2: the consuming of the workouts here at the Combine, and

975
00:47:00,120 --> 00:47:03,120
Speaker 2: you could watch out on the NFL network d line

976
00:47:03,280 --> 00:47:08,040
Speaker 2: and linebackers. I have a feeling the Colts should have

977
00:47:08,400 --> 00:47:11,160
Speaker 2: a lot of interest in that first position group working

978
00:47:11,160 --> 00:47:13,680
Speaker 2: out position groups. It should say clearly working out today,

979
00:47:13,719 --> 00:47:16,880
Speaker 2: So that'd be three o'clock here coming up later today.

980
00:47:17,440 --> 00:47:20,280
Speaker 2: All right, James, we've heard now from Chris Ballard. Obviously

981
00:47:20,360 --> 00:47:22,000
Speaker 2: you were part of it yesterday. You just heard it

982
00:47:22,040 --> 00:47:26,760
Speaker 2: back right there. One thing he said that you agree with.

983
00:47:30,160 --> 00:47:33,040
Speaker 4: That they have to improve the front seven, and I

984
00:47:33,120 --> 00:47:37,160
Speaker 4: think that was obvious coming into this offseason. But he

985
00:47:37,280 --> 00:47:40,600
Speaker 4: told us that at the podium on Tuesday, and obviously

986
00:47:40,680 --> 00:47:43,000
Speaker 4: double down on it yesterday here on the show. And

987
00:47:43,040 --> 00:47:45,879
Speaker 4: I think you pointed out the success that he has

988
00:47:45,960 --> 00:47:49,600
Speaker 4: had in the trenches on the offensive side, because if

989
00:47:49,600 --> 00:47:52,839
Speaker 4: you look at their starting offensive line, it isn't all

990
00:47:52,880 --> 00:47:55,680
Speaker 4: first round picks. They've had some you know, guys coming

991
00:47:55,719 --> 00:47:58,560
Speaker 4: in out, some staples I would say, devote throughout the years,

992
00:47:58,600 --> 00:48:00,719
Speaker 4: guys going to get paid like well rise, and so

993
00:48:01,200 --> 00:48:03,240
Speaker 4: they've had people develop on that side of the ball.

994
00:48:03,840 --> 00:48:07,080
Speaker 4: But that front seven and really the D line in particular,

995
00:48:07,640 --> 00:48:10,680
Speaker 4: that's the area that you failed in and during your tenure.

996
00:48:10,719 --> 00:48:15,120
Speaker 4: Outside of quarterback obviously, but I think defensively, the only

997
00:48:15,239 --> 00:48:17,600
Speaker 4: defensive end we can point you right now today and

998
00:48:17,640 --> 00:48:20,319
Speaker 4: say he is one hundred percent of part of your

999
00:48:20,320 --> 00:48:23,120
Speaker 4: future is Leaoti Latu the rest of him. I mean,

1000
00:48:23,160 --> 00:48:26,960
Speaker 4: I know he mentioned JT twy Moloao and others, you know,

1001
00:48:27,080 --> 00:48:30,839
Speaker 4: taking a step forward, but realistically you got one, dude.

1002
00:48:31,360 --> 00:48:33,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, as I've kind of mapped out, you know, what

1003
00:48:34,040 --> 00:48:36,640
Speaker 2: the next couple of weeks should look like. I viewed

1004
00:48:36,640 --> 00:48:39,600
Speaker 2: defensive end specifically, if we want to get technical D

1005
00:48:39,680 --> 00:48:42,800
Speaker 2: line versus defensive end, I viewed defensive end. It's clearly

1006
00:48:42,840 --> 00:48:46,480
Speaker 2: the number one need. I think linebacker is pretty clearly

1007
00:48:46,520 --> 00:48:49,799
Speaker 2: the number two need. And then I really think you

1008
00:48:49,800 --> 00:48:53,759
Speaker 2: could debate a lot really after that. There so yes,

1009
00:48:53,840 --> 00:48:56,880
Speaker 2: I would agree on that, Mark Tychton, where are you

1010
00:48:56,920 --> 00:48:59,760
Speaker 2: going with one thing you agreed with from chrisp bout

1011
00:49:00,120 --> 00:49:01,920
Speaker 2: on Rick Carlisle find divisions?

1012
00:49:02,120 --> 00:49:04,319
Speaker 5: Well, I definitely agree there, but no, I would say

1013
00:49:04,360 --> 00:49:07,520
Speaker 5: the he did the Zire Franklin stuff. He talked about

1014
00:49:07,560 --> 00:49:09,799
Speaker 5: where you kind of, you know, need a them like, hey,

1015
00:49:09,880 --> 00:49:11,560
Speaker 5: are you okay with him doing the podcast? And I

1016
00:49:11,560 --> 00:49:14,799
Speaker 5: think his honest answer was we've had discussions about it.

1017
00:49:14,840 --> 00:49:17,880
Speaker 5: And I think that's important that not just Zire Franklin's standpoint,

1018
00:49:17,960 --> 00:49:20,319
Speaker 5: but everybody needs to be focused on football at West

1019
00:49:20,360 --> 00:49:22,239
Speaker 5: fifty six. We don't need to be doing all these

1020
00:49:22,280 --> 00:49:24,520
Speaker 5: extracurriculars and all that stuff. We don't need to be

1021
00:49:24,760 --> 00:49:27,520
Speaker 5: jumping on podcasts and arguing with Jeff Tiger, getting in

1022
00:49:27,600 --> 00:49:30,759
Speaker 5: beef with Pat McAfee. Let's focus on the football at

1023
00:49:30,760 --> 00:49:32,719
Speaker 5: West fifty six. So I think that's important not only

1024
00:49:32,760 --> 00:49:35,799
Speaker 5: for Zire Franklin, but for everybody. What's more important that

1025
00:49:35,840 --> 00:49:38,960
Speaker 5: Captain c on your chest or jumping on a podcast

1026
00:49:39,000 --> 00:49:40,880
Speaker 5: here and there. So I think the focus needs to

1027
00:49:40,880 --> 00:49:42,799
Speaker 5: be on football. And I think he kind of drove

1028
00:49:42,880 --> 00:49:46,239
Speaker 5: that home that we need to be focused underligned as

1029
00:49:46,280 --> 00:49:48,160
Speaker 5: a unit, that we need to be focused on winning

1030
00:49:48,160 --> 00:49:48,880
Speaker 5: football games.

1031
00:49:49,760 --> 00:49:52,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, I would you know, I'm not in my head

1032
00:49:52,200 --> 00:49:54,959
Speaker 2: at that, James. I can't recall too many times where

1033
00:49:54,960 --> 00:49:58,000
Speaker 2: we've asked Chris Ballad about a player under contract and

1034
00:49:58,080 --> 00:50:02,239
Speaker 2: he has offered the response of we'll see, yeah, and

1035
00:50:02,320 --> 00:50:05,920
Speaker 2: if that players coming back. I sit here February twenty

1036
00:50:05,920 --> 00:50:09,200
Speaker 2: sixth Thursday morning, We're thirteen days away from the official

1037
00:50:09,239 --> 00:50:11,319
Speaker 2: start of the new league year, and I think it's

1038
00:50:12,400 --> 00:50:14,600
Speaker 2: very much up in the air on if Ziya Franklin

1039
00:50:14,600 --> 00:50:15,839
Speaker 2: will be a cult in twenty twenty six.

1040
00:50:16,360 --> 00:50:19,040
Speaker 4: I felt that way as well, And honestly, if you

1041
00:50:19,120 --> 00:50:23,600
Speaker 4: swapped out the names Zaire Franklin Anthony Richardson, we got

1042
00:50:23,800 --> 00:50:26,520
Speaker 4: those responses, we got the will see for both, and

1043
00:50:27,160 --> 00:50:31,040
Speaker 4: I think coming into this week it was and still

1044
00:50:31,080 --> 00:50:34,680
Speaker 4: remains fairly obvious in my opinion that the Colts will

1045
00:50:34,680 --> 00:50:37,280
Speaker 4: have to move on from Anthony Richardson in some capacity.

1046
00:50:37,320 --> 00:50:40,120
Speaker 4: And honestly, I'm kicking myself for not asking point blank

1047
00:50:40,239 --> 00:50:42,480
Speaker 4: yesterday would you consider trading him?

1048
00:50:43,080 --> 00:50:44,640
Speaker 3: Hey, will you pick up a fifth year option?

1049
00:50:44,920 --> 00:50:47,160
Speaker 4: Because those things will tell us everything we need to

1050
00:50:47,200 --> 00:50:52,280
Speaker 4: know about Anthony's future here. But whereas with Zaire it's similar,

1051
00:50:52,280 --> 00:50:54,359
Speaker 4: but it differs because he do he does have two

1052
00:50:54,440 --> 00:50:57,279
Speaker 4: years up on this deal. If you're looking at ways too,

1053
00:50:57,320 --> 00:51:00,560
Speaker 4: got of his contract and move on from him. The

1054
00:51:00,600 --> 00:51:03,759
Speaker 4: next season. Not this offseason will be better financially, but

1055
00:51:03,800 --> 00:51:06,000
Speaker 4: from a cultural standpoint, from a we want to be

1056
00:51:06,040 --> 00:51:09,520
Speaker 4: serious standpoint, and quite frankly, Kevin, we know this is

1057
00:51:09,520 --> 00:51:12,799
Speaker 4: a results league. If you had played better, this will

1058
00:51:12,840 --> 00:51:13,880
Speaker 4: be a different conversation.

1059
00:51:14,120 --> 00:51:16,319
Speaker 2: But I think that there were no splash plays from

1060
00:51:16,360 --> 00:51:17,920
Speaker 2: Sarah Franklin last year exactly.

1061
00:51:17,960 --> 00:51:24,040
Speaker 4: So I think with the podcast, the dipping performance in

1062
00:51:24,120 --> 00:51:27,759
Speaker 4: Luino Remo's system, the juice isn't.

1063
00:51:27,480 --> 00:51:28,520
Speaker 3: Worth the squeeze.

1064
00:51:28,560 --> 00:51:31,000
Speaker 4: And again I go back to Puka Nakua, who I

1065
00:51:31,040 --> 00:51:35,600
Speaker 4: always bring up seemingly on this show. He's a headache,

1066
00:51:35,760 --> 00:51:38,319
Speaker 4: but he also, I think you mentioned it yesterday, Kevin

1067
00:51:38,320 --> 00:51:41,040
Speaker 4: gives migrains to other defenses. So you're willing to put

1068
00:51:41,080 --> 00:51:42,480
Speaker 4: up with you. We know this, like the NFL is

1069
00:51:42,520 --> 00:51:44,520
Speaker 4: we gonna put up with whatever. It's something, even off

1070
00:51:44,560 --> 00:51:46,560
Speaker 4: the field issues I don't always agree with. If you

1071
00:51:46,600 --> 00:51:49,840
Speaker 4: can play ball, if you go out there and you dominate,

1072
00:51:50,360 --> 00:51:53,319
Speaker 4: he has not done that. And I do think at

1073
00:51:53,320 --> 00:51:58,360
Speaker 4: some point you asked about leadership. That has to change

1074
00:51:58,400 --> 00:52:00,520
Speaker 4: a bit if you want to be a different team

1075
00:52:00,560 --> 00:52:01,640
Speaker 4: pointed in a different direction.

1076
00:52:01,960 --> 00:52:04,239
Speaker 2: Uh, the one item that I will go with for

1077
00:52:04,320 --> 00:52:05,960
Speaker 2: what I agree to. Then I guess I'm piggyback a

1078
00:52:06,000 --> 00:52:11,399
Speaker 2: little bit off mark here. But to me, when asked about, hey,

1079
00:52:11,760 --> 00:52:14,759
Speaker 2: to achieve your offseason goals, do you need to restructure

1080
00:52:14,800 --> 00:52:19,239
Speaker 2: some contracts and or potentially cut guys you have resigned, which, again,

1081
00:52:19,320 --> 00:52:22,080
Speaker 2: just to add context, Ballard has not done that in

1082
00:52:22,120 --> 00:52:24,640
Speaker 2: his tenure. That has not been his thing. And there

1083
00:52:24,640 --> 00:52:27,359
Speaker 2: are that is a mode of operation for really, i'd

1084
00:52:27,360 --> 00:52:29,640
Speaker 2: say a decent chunk of NFL teams, you know, when

1085
00:52:29,640 --> 00:52:32,720
Speaker 2: they reach a certain breaking point contractually with guys, particularly age,

1086
00:52:33,040 --> 00:52:35,080
Speaker 2: when the age gets up there they have no issue

1087
00:52:35,120 --> 00:52:38,320
Speaker 2: saying bye bye. That's not really been the Colts m

1088
00:52:38,360 --> 00:52:41,120
Speaker 2: O at all under Ballard. And he did say the

1089
00:52:41,120 --> 00:52:44,760
Speaker 2: phrase that could happen, and again I think at Ballard

1090
00:52:44,840 --> 00:52:48,760
Speaker 2: Lingo James, that means it probably will happen.

1091
00:52:50,040 --> 00:52:51,600
Speaker 3: And you've done a good job of this I think

1092
00:52:51,800 --> 00:52:52,600
Speaker 3: here in recent years.

1093
00:52:52,640 --> 00:52:54,800
Speaker 2: You know, last year you mentioned Samson epicom as a

1094
00:52:54,840 --> 00:52:57,799
Speaker 2: potential cap cast and frankly, after the year played out,

1095
00:52:57,920 --> 00:53:00,160
Speaker 2: there's probably a lot of people that said that maybe

1096
00:53:00,160 --> 00:53:02,239
Speaker 2: you should have happened. But there are a lot of

1097
00:53:02,280 --> 00:53:05,520
Speaker 2: guys in this roster, Michael Pittman, junr Ziar Franklin you

1098
00:53:05,520 --> 00:53:08,720
Speaker 2: mentioned a little bit ago. Even if you just keep guys,

1099
00:53:08,800 --> 00:53:13,080
Speaker 2: but again extend them and a restructure. Quentin Nelson, Jonathan Taylor,

1100
00:53:13,120 --> 00:53:15,160
Speaker 2: you know some of these guys. I'm not saying that

1101
00:53:15,239 --> 00:53:17,560
Speaker 2: you have to outright cut these guys. I think I've

1102
00:53:17,560 --> 00:53:19,560
Speaker 2: been pretty clear on the stands with Pittman. I would

1103
00:53:19,560 --> 00:53:22,240
Speaker 2: like to see him kept, but definitely on a different

1104
00:53:22,280 --> 00:53:25,799
Speaker 2: cap hit. I think that is an absolute must if

1105
00:53:25,840 --> 00:53:28,080
Speaker 2: you're going to achieve the goals. Because I'll add one

1106
00:53:28,080 --> 00:53:32,040
Speaker 2: more thing. You don't have the first round pick. And

1107
00:53:32,080 --> 00:53:34,120
Speaker 2: in years where they haven't had the first round pick,

1108
00:53:34,520 --> 00:53:38,520
Speaker 2: sometimes they've already traded back and they've gotten additional picks.

1109
00:53:38,640 --> 00:53:39,160
Speaker 3: Right now.

1110
00:53:39,360 --> 00:53:42,000
Speaker 2: They you know, you just have your your two, your

1111
00:53:42,040 --> 00:53:44,520
Speaker 2: three or four, and you know you got Day three picks,

1112
00:53:44,760 --> 00:53:47,879
Speaker 2: and you should get a few more from a compensatory standpoint,

1113
00:53:48,200 --> 00:53:50,680
Speaker 2: but the premium picks, I mean what he got two

1114
00:53:50,760 --> 00:53:54,160
Speaker 2: in the first one hundred and fifteen selections and none

1115
00:53:54,160 --> 00:53:57,680
Speaker 2: of them until forty seven overall, So hearing him say that,

1116
00:53:57,840 --> 00:54:00,839
Speaker 2: I think is something that has to happen and really

1117
00:54:00,840 --> 00:54:04,399
Speaker 2: would be a change in his usual mode of operation.

1118
00:54:05,680 --> 00:54:06,120
Speaker 3: For sure.

1119
00:54:06,160 --> 00:54:09,160
Speaker 4: And then to pivot a little bit when it comes

1120
00:54:09,200 --> 00:54:13,800
Speaker 4: to my opinion how serious this team is and trying

1121
00:54:13,800 --> 00:54:16,799
Speaker 4: to be a little bit more creative. Again, I go

1122
00:54:16,880 --> 00:54:21,240
Speaker 4: back to how much pressure are you feeling to actually

1123
00:54:21,239 --> 00:54:24,239
Speaker 4: have to deliver this season. I get that he's going

1124
00:54:24,239 --> 00:54:25,759
Speaker 4: into the final year of his contract. We talk a

1125
00:54:25,800 --> 00:54:29,080
Speaker 4: little bit about that. You all heard that earlier during

1126
00:54:29,080 --> 00:54:34,600
Speaker 4: our interview. But at the same time, my thinking is, Okay,

1127
00:54:34,680 --> 00:54:37,000
Speaker 4: if you think you were a top four team last year,

1128
00:54:37,080 --> 00:54:41,960
Speaker 4: if you think you were very promising, you can build

1129
00:54:42,000 --> 00:54:43,839
Speaker 4: on what you had in the first ten games, then

1130
00:54:44,320 --> 00:54:47,319
Speaker 4: what are you doing to not just get back there,

1131
00:54:47,440 --> 00:54:50,520
Speaker 4: or be relevant or be competitive, but to finish as

1132
00:54:50,560 --> 00:54:53,800
Speaker 4: you talked about, Kevin, and to put yourself in contention

1133
00:54:53,920 --> 00:54:56,520
Speaker 4: to win the division and honestly not even contentent to

1134
00:54:56,560 --> 00:54:59,120
Speaker 4: just win it. And I think that's the frustration that

1135
00:54:59,520 --> 00:55:03,040
Speaker 4: I can empathize with with this fan base is they've

1136
00:55:03,040 --> 00:55:07,440
Speaker 4: supported this team through so many different changes outside of

1137
00:55:07,480 --> 00:55:10,279
Speaker 4: the GM and it's like, whatever version of this team

1138
00:55:10,320 --> 00:55:13,400
Speaker 4: you tried it out here, some of the lingering traits

1139
00:55:13,800 --> 00:55:17,480
Speaker 4: still haven't changed. You can't finish, you don't win into December,

1140
00:55:17,560 --> 00:55:21,640
Speaker 4: in January and November, December and January, and so how

1141
00:55:21,680 --> 00:55:22,359
Speaker 4: do you solve that?

1142
00:55:23,160 --> 00:55:25,960
Speaker 2: Did you mean to do this? Aaron chimes in here

1143
00:55:25,960 --> 00:55:30,480
Speaker 2: and goes nice unintentional joke about sarahcuse alumsay or Franklin

1144
00:55:30,520 --> 00:55:33,759
Speaker 2: when James said the juice being worth the squeeze? Is

1145
00:55:33,800 --> 00:55:34,920
Speaker 2: that a Syracuse Orange.

1146
00:55:34,960 --> 00:55:38,200
Speaker 4: I did not to make that a joke, but hey,

1147
00:55:38,400 --> 00:55:39,760
Speaker 4: I guess I'm a comedian this morning.

1148
00:55:40,200 --> 00:55:43,240
Speaker 2: I believe we've got Dan Bugler with us right now.

1149
00:55:43,480 --> 00:55:45,719
Speaker 2: The legend that is Dan Brigler. He's gonna hop on

1150
00:55:45,760 --> 00:55:48,360
Speaker 2: here the headset mark. We'll we'll do our morning checkdown

1151
00:55:48,680 --> 00:55:51,879
Speaker 2: here in a few We always appreciate his time. He's

1152
00:55:51,920 --> 00:55:55,279
Speaker 2: one of the busiest men at the NFL Combine, I

1153
00:55:55,360 --> 00:55:57,680
Speaker 2: believe over our years in chatting with you, Dane, it's

1154
00:55:57,719 --> 00:55:59,120
Speaker 2: a drive from Northeast Ohio.

1155
00:55:59,200 --> 00:56:00,120
Speaker 3: Is that correct for you?

1156
00:56:00,400 --> 00:56:10,400
Speaker 2: That's so. That's one of the reasons one of my

1157
00:56:11,800 --> 00:56:12,760
Speaker 2: so Warren, Ohio.

1158
00:56:12,760 --> 00:56:16,320
Speaker 12: That's football like heaven right Northeast Ohio.

1159
00:56:16,400 --> 00:56:18,560
Speaker 14: It's no mystery why I kind of grew up in football,

1160
00:56:18,640 --> 00:56:22,000
Speaker 14: right Canton, Ohio's you know, twenty minutes away. I went

1161
00:56:22,080 --> 00:56:25,200
Speaker 14: to school at Mount Union, d three national championships all

1162
00:56:25,200 --> 00:56:25,520
Speaker 14: the time.

1163
00:56:25,640 --> 00:56:27,080
Speaker 3: Is that Brian Polliam Mount Union?

1164
00:56:27,800 --> 00:56:31,920
Speaker 12: That's John Carroll. Carroll the arch nemosism Mount Union.

1165
00:56:32,040 --> 00:56:33,239
Speaker 2: Sorry, ye blast me.

1166
00:56:34,280 --> 00:56:37,040
Speaker 14: Right exactly, but hey, John Carroll. They have their nice

1167
00:56:37,040 --> 00:56:39,760
Speaker 14: little run of They got a prospect in this draft

1168
00:56:39,760 --> 00:56:42,319
Speaker 14: who's a pretty good receiver, and they've had a nice

1169
00:56:42,360 --> 00:56:46,759
Speaker 14: run of front office guys, so credit to them. But yeah,

1170
00:56:46,800 --> 00:56:50,520
Speaker 14: it's loved Northeast Ohio. So after I graduated from college,

1171
00:56:50,880 --> 00:56:53,480
Speaker 14: moved down to Texas for ten years, and my wife

1172
00:56:53,520 --> 00:56:56,040
Speaker 14: and I moved back just to raise the kids. And

1173
00:56:56,080 --> 00:56:58,799
Speaker 14: it's a beautiful place to grow up. So yeah, very

1174
00:56:58,920 --> 00:57:01,720
Speaker 14: very proud North Olk. Uh Northeast Ohioan.

1175
00:57:02,440 --> 00:57:04,480
Speaker 4: So, Dan, when's the last time you saw the sun

1176
00:57:04,560 --> 00:57:07,160
Speaker 4: before you came to the combine?

1177
00:57:08,600 --> 00:57:12,440
Speaker 14: What is this son you speak of? I have two sons.

1178
00:57:12,719 --> 00:57:15,319
Speaker 14: Is that what you mean? Yeah, it's it's at that

1179
00:57:15,360 --> 00:57:19,040
Speaker 14: time of year, right. Part of it's the the choices

1180
00:57:19,080 --> 00:57:21,360
Speaker 14: we made where to live in the country where it's

1181
00:57:21,360 --> 00:57:24,000
Speaker 14: a little cold and dark this type of or this

1182
00:57:24,120 --> 00:57:28,080
Speaker 14: time of year. But uh, yeah, doing doing this draft stuff,

1183
00:57:28,080 --> 00:57:32,240
Speaker 14: doing the scouting. It's it's it's a lot of a

1184
00:57:32,240 --> 00:57:33,680
Speaker 14: lot of work this time of year. It's a lot

1185
00:57:33,680 --> 00:57:37,680
Speaker 14: of uh, climbing my hole, watching tape on the phone,

1186
00:57:37,880 --> 00:57:40,600
Speaker 14: and you know, get all this stuff together. So by

1187
00:57:40,640 --> 00:57:43,680
Speaker 14: the time April comes and you know, we're a couple

1188
00:57:43,680 --> 00:57:45,760
Speaker 14: of weeks out of the draft, all the everything's done

1189
00:57:45,800 --> 00:57:48,120
Speaker 14: and we're ready to go and we can really really

1190
00:57:48,160 --> 00:57:50,280
Speaker 14: hone in on. Okay, how's this, how's the top thirty

1191
00:57:50,280 --> 00:57:51,280
Speaker 14: two picks gonna play out?

1192
00:57:51,440 --> 00:57:53,520
Speaker 2: I've joked here if you stay in a local hotel,

1193
00:57:53,600 --> 00:57:55,760
Speaker 2: you could, you know, pull the drawer open and some might,

1194
00:57:55,800 --> 00:57:57,480
Speaker 2: you know, find a book in there called the Bible.

1195
00:57:57,680 --> 00:58:01,200
Speaker 2: Others might find Dane Brigler's Beast, depending on how they

1196
00:58:01,520 --> 00:58:03,680
Speaker 2: like their you know whatever coffee brood. So, Dan, we

1197
00:58:03,720 --> 00:58:06,360
Speaker 2: always appreciate the time. And you know I've been teasing

1198
00:58:06,400 --> 00:58:07,919
Speaker 2: you coming on the show here for the last hour.

1199
00:58:08,400 --> 00:58:11,280
Speaker 2: I think you have a strong affinity for some local

1200
00:58:11,280 --> 00:58:12,960
Speaker 2: guys that I want to get into. And when we've

1201
00:58:13,000 --> 00:58:14,680
Speaker 2: had you on the past, local has meant like, well

1202
00:58:14,720 --> 00:58:16,600
Speaker 2: we're kind of going up the Notre Dame, right, but

1203
00:58:16,760 --> 00:58:19,040
Speaker 2: like local can be an hour down the road in

1204
00:58:19,040 --> 00:58:22,720
Speaker 2: bloom Meton or you know, Dylan Thieneman being a Westfield native,

1205
00:58:22,800 --> 00:58:25,600
Speaker 2: just north here of Indianapolis. So I guess let's just

1206
00:58:25,600 --> 00:58:28,480
Speaker 2: start with Fernando Mendoza. And I did find it interesting

1207
00:58:28,600 --> 00:58:31,120
Speaker 2: that I was listening to you a few weeks back

1208
00:58:31,720 --> 00:58:35,280
Speaker 2: and you mentioned that you felt like if Arch Manning,

1209
00:58:35,560 --> 00:58:37,680
Speaker 2: or maybe some NFL people feel so feel free to

1210
00:58:37,680 --> 00:58:39,800
Speaker 2: correct me, if Archie Manny was in this draft, there

1211
00:58:39,880 --> 00:58:41,320
Speaker 2: might be a little bit more of a debate at

1212
00:58:41,400 --> 00:58:41,880
Speaker 2: number one.

1213
00:58:42,240 --> 00:58:43,000
Speaker 12: Oh, no question.

1214
00:58:43,960 --> 00:58:45,959
Speaker 14: And how much of that is just the name that's

1215
00:58:46,000 --> 00:58:50,600
Speaker 14: going to, you know, be part of that discussion. But

1216
00:58:50,760 --> 00:58:54,440
Speaker 14: the way Urch finished, I think people, and I say

1217
00:58:54,480 --> 00:58:56,960
Speaker 14: people scouts, people in the NFL, they just see it

1218
00:58:56,960 --> 00:58:59,160
Speaker 14: as a rocket ship. It's headed in the right direction.

1219
00:58:59,400 --> 00:59:04,720
Speaker 14: And he is got a little more in terms of

1220
00:59:04,720 --> 00:59:08,160
Speaker 14: the mobility, in terms of the ability to create those

1221
00:59:08,200 --> 00:59:13,080
Speaker 14: second chance throws. And we saw Fernando Mendoza this year

1222
00:59:13,320 --> 00:59:15,720
Speaker 14: use his leg, especially in the National Championship Game, to

1223
00:59:16,000 --> 00:59:18,000
Speaker 14: make some plays. It's just a little bit different with

1224
00:59:18,120 --> 00:59:23,160
Speaker 14: Arch and so Mendoza is closer to his ceiling and

1225
00:59:23,320 --> 00:59:25,960
Speaker 14: what he is as a quarterback, which isn't a bad thing.

1226
00:59:26,240 --> 00:59:27,880
Speaker 14: Like you know, if you're going to draft a quarterback,

1227
00:59:27,960 --> 00:59:30,160
Speaker 14: especially in the top five, don't you want to kind

1228
00:59:30,160 --> 00:59:31,840
Speaker 14: of know what you're getting, you know, And so I

1229
00:59:31,840 --> 00:59:34,600
Speaker 14: think that's the cell with Mendoza's You already know he's

1230
00:59:34,600 --> 00:59:36,560
Speaker 14: a good quarterback. You know how accurate is you know,

1231
00:59:37,040 --> 00:59:39,760
Speaker 14: pre snap processing, post snap processing, you have a good

1232
00:59:39,800 --> 00:59:42,960
Speaker 14: feel for all of that, wherewith Manning you're betting a

1233
00:59:42,960 --> 00:59:45,320
Speaker 14: little bit on the upside. And so it would it

1234
00:59:45,320 --> 00:59:47,160
Speaker 14: would be a debate, it would be something that we'd

1235
00:59:47,200 --> 00:59:48,960
Speaker 14: be talking about ad nauseum here.

1236
00:59:50,280 --> 00:59:53,000
Speaker 12: But I'm glad. Part of me's glad.

1237
00:59:53,080 --> 00:59:55,080
Speaker 14: Part of me wishes just because this draft could use

1238
00:59:55,080 --> 00:59:58,160
Speaker 14: a little at the top, But part of me is

1239
00:59:58,160 --> 01:00:00,600
Speaker 14: glad that he went back to school. And for most

1240
01:00:00,680 --> 01:00:03,760
Speaker 14: quarterbacks that's the right move to get better. Develop The

1241
01:00:03,840 --> 01:00:06,240
Speaker 14: NFL is just not the developmental league. So the chance

1242
01:00:06,320 --> 01:00:08,600
Speaker 14: to go back get better. We'll be talking about him

1243
01:00:08,600 --> 01:00:09,400
Speaker 14: at this time next year.

1244
01:00:09,840 --> 01:00:11,360
Speaker 4: Well, if you want some off, I think you should

1245
01:00:11,360 --> 01:00:14,200
Speaker 4: just go stop by friend of the Mendoza's Friday press

1246
01:00:14,200 --> 01:00:16,880
Speaker 4: conference and we'll get all the flipping champions and things like.

1247
01:00:16,840 --> 01:00:18,160
Speaker 3: That and phrases that he drops.

1248
01:00:18,440 --> 01:00:21,440
Speaker 4: But I know, looking at your top one hundred that

1249
01:00:21,480 --> 01:00:24,280
Speaker 4: you just recently put out Dane that Omar Cooper Junior

1250
01:00:24,280 --> 01:00:26,040
Speaker 4: as a player you've been high on. YEH got him

1251
01:00:26,080 --> 01:00:28,520
Speaker 4: right number twenty seven. Can you elaborate on why you

1252
01:00:28,600 --> 01:00:30,960
Speaker 4: think his skills will translate to the NFL?

1253
01:00:31,280 --> 01:00:33,440
Speaker 14: Yeah, And I've been talking about him all year as

1254
01:00:33,480 --> 01:00:37,240
Speaker 14: just like what's not to like about this player? He

1255
01:00:37,280 --> 01:00:40,520
Speaker 14: operates mostly out of the slot ball skills are fantastic,

1256
01:00:40,560 --> 01:00:42,600
Speaker 14: and you know both his parents are big basketball players.

1257
01:00:43,280 --> 01:00:45,360
Speaker 14: I believe in this area just north of here, so

1258
01:00:45,720 --> 01:00:50,080
Speaker 14: you know, a local kid, he gravitated more towards football

1259
01:00:50,560 --> 01:00:55,560
Speaker 14: and the toughness and yak ability that's what really sells me.

1260
01:00:56,160 --> 01:00:58,320
Speaker 14: You get the ball in his hands, he can break tackles.

1261
01:00:58,600 --> 01:01:01,600
Speaker 14: He will get those hidden yards where you know it's

1262
01:01:02,280 --> 01:01:05,040
Speaker 14: second and seven and it's a screen and instead of okay,

1263
01:01:05,040 --> 01:01:06,400
Speaker 14: it's gonna be third and two, he already got the

1264
01:01:06,400 --> 01:01:09,040
Speaker 14: first down, so you're already moving the chains. That's where

1265
01:01:09,120 --> 01:01:13,040
Speaker 14: I think he separates himself. And so I think now,

1266
01:01:13,040 --> 01:01:15,919
Speaker 14: if you're looking for more of a vertical receiver, maybe

1267
01:01:15,920 --> 01:01:17,960
Speaker 14: he's not as proven in that area, but you know,

1268
01:01:18,040 --> 01:01:20,760
Speaker 14: I've seen him win out of the slot on you know,

1269
01:01:20,880 --> 01:01:24,440
Speaker 14: vertical patterns versus press. But I think the specialize how

1270
01:01:24,440 --> 01:01:29,160
Speaker 14: you want to really use him, Screens, slants, runway routes,

1271
01:01:29,280 --> 01:01:31,560
Speaker 14: opportunities to get him the ball in space so he

1272
01:01:31,600 --> 01:01:35,240
Speaker 14: can create usette speed, use that toughness. This is a

1273
01:01:35,320 --> 01:01:39,200
Speaker 14: receiver class that's missing maybe true alpha at the top,

1274
01:01:39,600 --> 01:01:42,040
Speaker 14: but it's we're gonna still see five or six going

1275
01:01:42,120 --> 01:01:44,120
Speaker 14: the first round. And I think Omar Cooper's right there

1276
01:01:44,120 --> 01:01:44,600
Speaker 14: in that mix.

1277
01:01:44,640 --> 01:01:46,080
Speaker 2: I've kind of called them baby Debo.

1278
01:01:46,920 --> 01:01:50,800
Speaker 14: Yeah, I could see that, right, you know, Debo it

1279
01:01:50,880 --> 01:01:53,720
Speaker 14: maybe a little more like a running back, where I

1280
01:01:53,720 --> 01:01:58,000
Speaker 14: think Gomark Cooper's more like a receiver, but in terms

1281
01:01:58,000 --> 01:02:01,400
Speaker 14: of the ability to break tackles, get more yards than

1282
01:02:01,920 --> 01:02:03,320
Speaker 14: you think are going to be there.

1283
01:02:03,440 --> 01:02:04,600
Speaker 12: Yeah, I think that makes sense.

1284
01:02:04,600 --> 01:02:07,680
Speaker 2: Okay, let's stick with the IU brigade here, and a

1285
01:02:07,760 --> 01:02:09,320
Speaker 2: man that's gonna talk to the media here in a

1286
01:02:09,320 --> 01:02:12,280
Speaker 2: little bit is d' angelo Pons. And you know, we

1287
01:02:12,360 --> 01:02:15,600
Speaker 2: are in a market with Chris Ballard, a very stringent individual,

1288
01:02:15,600 --> 01:02:18,080
Speaker 2: and it comes to cornerback makeup. Last year they drafted

1289
01:02:18,160 --> 01:02:20,320
Speaker 2: Justin Walley James. We were in the draft room. We

1290
01:02:20,320 --> 01:02:22,920
Speaker 2: thought it was a mistake, almost you know, very foreign

1291
01:02:23,400 --> 01:02:26,320
Speaker 2: draft pick from a height standpoint, Right, you have I

1292
01:02:26,360 --> 01:02:28,560
Speaker 2: think stood on a table a bit for d Angelo Ponds.

1293
01:02:28,640 --> 01:02:32,240
Speaker 2: Despite the height there, how high do you think he

1294
01:02:32,320 --> 01:02:35,120
Speaker 2: could go? And why do you feel like he'll be

1295
01:02:35,200 --> 01:02:38,120
Speaker 2: an outlier based off how many people view the cornerback position?

1296
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Speaker 12: Besides the size? What is not to like?

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Speaker 2: Right?

1298
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Speaker 12: Do you have to get past the size? And I

1299
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Speaker 12: get it.

1300
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Speaker 14: If he's lined up on the outside versus six or

1301
01:02:46,480 --> 01:02:50,000
Speaker 14: four receiver, there's a mismatch there. There there's no way

1302
01:02:50,040 --> 01:02:55,600
Speaker 14: around that. But everything else you love about him. The toughness,

1303
01:02:55,640 --> 01:02:58,720
Speaker 14: the speed. He's one hundred meter track champion in high school,

1304
01:02:58,960 --> 01:03:01,360
Speaker 14: so I think he'll have a nice week here in

1305
01:03:01,400 --> 01:03:04,600
Speaker 14: terms of the workouts on the field, the toughness that

1306
01:03:04,640 --> 01:03:07,000
Speaker 14: he plays with, how smart he is. I've talked to

1307
01:03:07,040 --> 01:03:09,560
Speaker 14: him before and I've really enjoyed our conversations because you

1308
01:03:09,960 --> 01:03:12,280
Speaker 14: really know when a guy gets it, especially a corner.

1309
01:03:13,240 --> 01:03:15,880
Speaker 14: Trent McDuffie was that for me when scouting him that

1310
01:03:15,960 --> 01:03:19,919
Speaker 14: year coming out of Washington, How smart he was about Okay,

1311
01:03:19,920 --> 01:03:21,760
Speaker 14: if they're lining up in this split, we're going to

1312
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Speaker 14: change the coverage. This side will be man, this side'll

1313
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Speaker 14: be his own. And he just how quickly he sees

1314
01:03:26,680 --> 01:03:29,000
Speaker 14: it and that processing is so important. We think of

1315
01:03:29,240 --> 01:03:31,520
Speaker 14: corner as a stopwatch position, and it is you have

1316
01:03:31,600 --> 01:03:33,720
Speaker 14: to be fast, you have to be able to carry

1317
01:03:33,760 --> 01:03:37,960
Speaker 14: receivers vertically. But the intelligence factor of understanding route concepts,

1318
01:03:38,040 --> 01:03:40,360
Speaker 14: understanding what the offense is trying to do so you

1319
01:03:40,360 --> 01:03:43,160
Speaker 14: could be a step ahead. Ponds has that and we

1320
01:03:43,240 --> 01:03:47,120
Speaker 14: saw that consistently throughout the season. But it was the

1321
01:03:47,120 --> 01:03:50,320
Speaker 14: same guy at James Madison. He's a freshman All American

1322
01:03:50,400 --> 01:03:52,560
Speaker 14: and he was doing that same stuff. So this is

1323
01:03:52,640 --> 01:03:54,600
Speaker 14: just how he's wired. And so I'm going to bet

1324
01:03:55,120 --> 01:03:58,560
Speaker 14: on a guy where you have to sacrifice the size, yes,

1325
01:03:58,680 --> 01:04:00,920
Speaker 14: but everything else I love, So I'll bet on that.

1326
01:04:01,560 --> 01:04:04,640
Speaker 4: So to pivot a little bit to the Colts obvious

1327
01:04:04,760 --> 01:04:07,720
Speaker 4: need for them is a defensive end. How do you

1328
01:04:07,720 --> 01:04:10,560
Speaker 4: feel about the depth in this year's defensive end class

1329
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Speaker 4: considering that the Colts do not have a first round.

1330
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Speaker 14: Pick, right, and this is music too. I think Colts

1331
01:04:16,160 --> 01:04:18,200
Speaker 14: fans eers is it's a deep edge group. And my

1332
01:04:18,200 --> 01:04:20,360
Speaker 14: top one hundred I had sixteen edg Rushers and they're

1333
01:04:20,400 --> 01:04:22,200
Speaker 14: probably four or five I could have thrown in there

1334
01:04:22,240 --> 01:04:27,800
Speaker 14: as well. And it's like there's not some magical ranking

1335
01:04:27,840 --> 01:04:29,840
Speaker 14: somewhere in a vault where every team is going to

1336
01:04:29,920 --> 01:04:32,880
Speaker 14: be drafting from. And you know, like every draft board

1337
01:04:32,960 --> 01:04:35,240
Speaker 14: is going to look a little bit different because of

1338
01:04:35,320 --> 01:04:37,720
Speaker 14: the types of edge rushers. If you're looking for more

1339
01:04:37,720 --> 01:04:40,240
Speaker 14: of an edgesetter, you're looking for more of a bendy

1340
01:04:40,400 --> 01:04:42,840
Speaker 14: speed guy. And so I think it'll be interesting to

1341
01:04:42,840 --> 01:04:45,080
Speaker 14: see the order these guys come off the board. Who

1342
01:04:45,120 --> 01:04:48,160
Speaker 14: would still be around in you know, the second round

1343
01:04:48,200 --> 01:04:51,560
Speaker 14: for the Colts, But there will be somebody. There'll be

1344
01:04:51,600 --> 01:04:54,240
Speaker 14: somebody you can circle and say, if we circle five

1345
01:04:54,320 --> 01:04:56,640
Speaker 14: names going into Day two, good chance you're gonna get

1346
01:04:56,640 --> 01:04:57,240
Speaker 14: one of those guys.

1347
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Speaker 9: Okay.

1348
01:04:57,600 --> 01:04:58,680
Speaker 2: I want to make sure we get a couple of

1349
01:04:58,720 --> 01:05:01,080
Speaker 2: local questions in here, and always appreciate your time.

1350
01:05:01,120 --> 01:05:02,560
Speaker 14: What a difference a year makes, By the way, with

1351
01:05:02,680 --> 01:05:07,400
Speaker 14: talking Indiana football, Oh my gosh, geez, good for that program.

1352
01:05:07,440 --> 01:05:09,360
Speaker 2: I went there. They won three Big ten games in

1353
01:05:09,400 --> 01:05:12,400
Speaker 2: four years. Ball State beat him twice in my four years,

1354
01:05:12,480 --> 01:05:14,360
Speaker 2: So I think that tells you everything you need to know.

1355
01:05:14,400 --> 01:05:16,680
Speaker 2: The biggest news item when I was there was Kevin Wilson,

1356
01:05:16,720 --> 01:05:20,200
Speaker 2: their former head coach, fighting an r a. I'm literally

1357
01:05:20,240 --> 01:05:24,840
Speaker 2: a resident assistant their former rad w Right here. That's

1358
01:05:24,840 --> 01:05:26,680
Speaker 2: a great sign. I don't don't know. I think the

1359
01:05:26,680 --> 01:05:29,160
Speaker 2: pocket knife the ra had on him maybe got the

1360
01:05:29,400 --> 01:05:31,640
Speaker 2: win there. Okay, the Beast is coming out.

1361
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Speaker 3: Win.

1362
01:05:32,160 --> 01:05:34,720
Speaker 14: We have a date yet, it's always hopefully that first

1363
01:05:34,720 --> 01:05:36,840
Speaker 14: week in April. You know, it a couple of weeks

1364
01:05:36,880 --> 01:05:39,120
Speaker 14: for the draft, and I just give me the month

1365
01:05:39,120 --> 01:05:42,480
Speaker 14: of March to get it done and then we'll.

1366
01:05:41,480 --> 01:05:45,160
Speaker 2: Your version of March madness is getting the Beast done. Okay.

1367
01:05:45,400 --> 01:05:47,720
Speaker 2: Two more local guys wanted to ask about Dylan Theenaman

1368
01:05:47,800 --> 01:05:51,600
Speaker 2: again Westfield, Indiana, just north here in Indianapolis. You've had

1369
01:05:51,600 --> 01:05:53,960
Speaker 2: theenem in I think pretty high. Think several draft analysts

1370
01:05:54,000 --> 01:05:55,840
Speaker 2: have had him high. Probably going to be a very

1371
01:05:55,880 --> 01:05:58,440
Speaker 2: good tester. Yes here coming up? What intrigues you by

1372
01:05:58,440 --> 01:06:00,960
Speaker 2: the former Purdue football player Oregon product?

1373
01:06:01,480 --> 01:06:05,080
Speaker 14: Really intrigued by safeties who can do a couple of

1374
01:06:05,160 --> 01:06:07,240
Speaker 14: different things. You know, you want the versatile guys, and

1375
01:06:07,280 --> 01:06:09,800
Speaker 14: I think that's where with thiene men. And he'll show

1376
01:06:09,800 --> 01:06:11,520
Speaker 14: it here. Like you said, he's gonna test well. I

1377
01:06:11,520 --> 01:06:13,560
Speaker 14: think he'll do all the all the positional stuff wi

1378
01:06:13,560 --> 01:06:17,040
Speaker 14: look good. The athletic testing will look good. And you

1379
01:06:17,080 --> 01:06:19,000
Speaker 14: know you want guys that can play the nickel. You

1380
01:06:19,000 --> 01:06:20,919
Speaker 14: want guys that can play the post, you want guys

1381
01:06:21,200 --> 01:06:23,560
Speaker 14: single high, you know, all these different and that's what

1382
01:06:23,640 --> 01:06:25,240
Speaker 14: I think Caleb Downs is a top ten pick in

1383
01:06:25,240 --> 01:06:27,560
Speaker 14: this draft because all the different hats he can wear.

1384
01:06:27,880 --> 01:06:30,000
Speaker 14: And Dylan Thieneman, I think he has that type of

1385
01:06:30,040 --> 01:06:34,560
Speaker 14: versatility where it's not just h he's not a above

1386
01:06:34,600 --> 01:06:36,360
Speaker 14: average run defender and you have to give up a

1387
01:06:36,400 --> 01:06:39,520
Speaker 14: little bit and coverage. He has everything the total package,

1388
01:06:39,560 --> 01:06:42,400
Speaker 14: and so you know, his his coverage ability, especially in

1389
01:06:42,440 --> 01:06:45,520
Speaker 14: the man is what helps separate him. So if I'm

1390
01:06:45,520 --> 01:06:48,880
Speaker 14: looking for someone that can be a true nickel on

1391
01:06:48,960 --> 01:06:51,440
Speaker 14: one snap, but then you know, I don't have to

1392
01:06:51,520 --> 01:06:54,000
Speaker 14: change my personnel packages. I can just move him to,

1393
01:06:54,400 --> 01:06:56,800
Speaker 14: you know, a different alignment. You feel comfortable that he

1394
01:06:56,800 --> 01:06:58,240
Speaker 14: could do it. And so that's why ultimately I think

1395
01:06:58,240 --> 01:06:59,120
Speaker 14: he goes in the first round.

1396
01:06:59,240 --> 01:07:01,640
Speaker 2: I have an unapolog jetak Notre Dame fan. I think

1397
01:07:01,720 --> 01:07:04,400
Speaker 2: Jeremiah Love was the best player in college football last year.

1398
01:07:04,960 --> 01:07:09,240
Speaker 2: Durable pass catcher, pass protector, home run hitter. Look at

1399
01:07:09,280 --> 01:07:11,680
Speaker 2: the Penn State touchdown run from a few years ago.

1400
01:07:11,720 --> 01:07:13,600
Speaker 2: If you want to see some toughness in there as well.

1401
01:07:14,160 --> 01:07:18,200
Speaker 2: How high it's too high for Jeremiah Love.

1402
01:07:19,840 --> 01:07:22,120
Speaker 14: Okay, so we know the number one pick right for

1403
01:07:22,200 --> 01:07:24,000
Speaker 14: Nana Meidos, I think is already looking at real estate

1404
01:07:24,000 --> 01:07:27,440
Speaker 14: there in Vegas. And then I think we're on Jeremiah

1405
01:07:27,440 --> 01:07:29,920
Speaker 14: Love watch. I mean, I agree with you that high.

1406
01:07:29,960 --> 01:07:31,760
Speaker 14: You can't draft them too high. I really don't think

1407
01:07:31,760 --> 01:07:36,680
Speaker 14: you can. Now we could debate about are the Titans

1408
01:07:36,720 --> 01:07:39,720
Speaker 14: in the right roster construction mode where they should be

1409
01:07:39,760 --> 01:07:41,640
Speaker 14: dropping and running back in there? The same thing about

1410
01:07:41,640 --> 01:07:44,280
Speaker 14: the Jets. I don't think Breestol is going anywhere, but

1411
01:07:44,360 --> 01:07:47,560
Speaker 14: if they did move on from Breesol, so you know,

1412
01:07:47,720 --> 01:07:52,080
Speaker 14: I think that's a debate. But if the cell is easy,

1413
01:07:52,160 --> 01:07:54,040
Speaker 14: if you tell me, if I'm a fan of your

1414
01:07:54,120 --> 01:07:56,760
Speaker 14: of a franchise and you draft Jeremiah Love and I'm thinking, oh,

1415
01:07:56,800 --> 01:07:59,000
Speaker 14: you draft a running back top five, the cell is easy.

1416
01:07:59,240 --> 01:08:01,280
Speaker 14: You just added them exposive player in the draft to

1417
01:08:01,360 --> 01:08:03,840
Speaker 14: your offense. That helps everybody, That helps the quarterback, that

1418
01:08:03,880 --> 01:08:06,600
Speaker 14: helps the receivers, that helps obviously the run game. So

1419
01:08:07,840 --> 01:08:10,360
Speaker 14: I have a hard time believing he gets past Saints

1420
01:08:10,400 --> 01:08:10,720
Speaker 14: at eight.

1421
01:08:11,720 --> 01:08:13,960
Speaker 2: I've seen the mock of Kansas City at nine and yeah, like,

1422
01:08:14,120 --> 01:08:16,360
Speaker 2: oh my gosh, can you imagine him in that offense.

1423
01:08:16,439 --> 01:08:19,320
Speaker 14: Well, and that's another one where it's we really see

1424
01:08:19,360 --> 01:08:21,640
Speaker 14: the Chiefs go with another first round running back. But

1425
01:08:22,479 --> 01:08:25,759
Speaker 14: this is a draft where just draft good football players.

1426
01:08:25,800 --> 01:08:28,760
Speaker 14: Stop talking about positional value, just draft good football player.

1427
01:08:28,840 --> 01:08:31,080
Speaker 14: So Caleb Downs, a safety sunny style is off ball

1428
01:08:31,080 --> 01:08:36,400
Speaker 14: linebacker Love at running back. You'll want to the guard like,

1429
01:08:36,520 --> 01:08:39,519
Speaker 14: these are all really really good football players. I don't

1430
01:08:39,520 --> 01:08:41,120
Speaker 14: want to hear about Jason Upside. I want to hear

1431
01:08:41,120 --> 01:08:43,560
Speaker 14: about the good football players we're adding. And Love, I

1432
01:08:43,600 --> 01:08:45,200
Speaker 14: mean love. I have a higher grade on Love than

1433
01:08:45,240 --> 01:08:49,040
Speaker 14: an Ash Genty from last year. His grade is closer

1434
01:08:49,040 --> 01:08:50,920
Speaker 14: to like a B Jon Robinson what I had on

1435
01:08:51,000 --> 01:08:53,479
Speaker 14: him coming out of out of Texas. So I just

1436
01:08:53,520 --> 01:08:55,639
Speaker 14: think that you can do so much of the weapon

1437
01:08:55,720 --> 01:08:57,559
Speaker 14: like that. Put him in the slot, let him run routes,

1438
01:08:57,560 --> 01:09:00,240
Speaker 14: and he's not just screens. He can run right else.

1439
01:09:01,439 --> 01:09:04,439
Speaker 14: A weapon like that just changes everything about your offense.

1440
01:09:05,040 --> 01:09:06,559
Speaker 3: Last one, I will let you go, Dane.

1441
01:09:06,640 --> 01:09:09,720
Speaker 4: I know you mentioned Caleb Downs not a local kid,

1442
01:09:09,840 --> 01:09:13,120
Speaker 4: but local adjacent with Josh Downs being here. I remember

1443
01:09:13,160 --> 01:09:15,800
Speaker 4: having a conversation with Josh Downs at his camp a

1444
01:09:15,840 --> 01:09:17,880
Speaker 4: couple of years ago. Dane and I asked him. I

1445
01:09:17,880 --> 01:09:20,679
Speaker 4: was like, you know, typical softball question, who's a better brother?

1446
01:09:21,080 --> 01:09:23,479
Speaker 4: And he's like, it's him. He's not the better receiver,

1447
01:09:23,560 --> 01:09:25,960
Speaker 4: but it's him. So what stands out to you about

1448
01:09:26,000 --> 01:09:28,559
Speaker 4: Caleb Downs and what makes him so unique and different

1449
01:09:28,600 --> 01:09:31,000
Speaker 4: as a safety? Because we know that's position that lets

1450
01:09:31,000 --> 01:09:33,120
Speaker 4: talk about personal value isn't always viewed in the same

1451
01:09:33,160 --> 01:09:33,840
Speaker 4: light as others.

1452
01:09:34,280 --> 01:09:35,840
Speaker 14: No, I mean, when's last time we saw our top

1453
01:09:35,840 --> 01:09:39,080
Speaker 14: ten safety Jamal Adams? Right, you know, it's just it's

1454
01:09:39,120 --> 01:09:43,000
Speaker 14: been a minute and most teams have that, I think

1455
01:09:43,040 --> 01:09:45,640
Speaker 14: the line of thinking, but Downs is just different, and

1456
01:09:45,760 --> 01:09:47,519
Speaker 14: especially in this draft where it's a little bit late

1457
01:09:47,560 --> 01:09:50,639
Speaker 14: at the top. Just talking to a couple of teams

1458
01:09:50,640 --> 01:09:54,479
Speaker 14: this week, you know the most impressive interview, Oh Caleb Downs.

1459
01:09:54,600 --> 01:09:56,680
Speaker 12: Oh it's Kleb Downs. I mean that you hear that

1460
01:09:56,800 --> 01:09:57,200
Speaker 12: a lot.

1461
01:09:57,640 --> 01:10:01,000
Speaker 14: Sonny Styles gets some votes too, but Downs has been

1462
01:10:01,320 --> 01:10:04,680
Speaker 14: universally praised for and that's not a surprise when you

1463
01:10:04,840 --> 01:10:07,719
Speaker 14: think about how smart he is. I mean, he showed

1464
01:10:07,760 --> 01:10:09,840
Speaker 14: up as a freshman for Nick Saban and was the

1465
01:10:09,920 --> 01:10:12,679
Speaker 14: leader of that defense. He's played for three different defensive

1466
01:10:12,720 --> 01:10:16,040
Speaker 14: coordinators the last three years. Three different schemes and he's

1467
01:10:16,080 --> 01:10:19,679
Speaker 14: been a star of all three. So everything that Matt

1468
01:10:19,720 --> 01:10:21,960
Speaker 14: Patricia did this past year for Ohio State, all the

1469
01:10:22,680 --> 01:10:26,479
Speaker 14: different disguises, the different traps, the different like it's all

1470
01:10:26,520 --> 01:10:29,479
Speaker 14: because you have a safety like Caleb Downs who can

1471
01:10:29,520 --> 01:10:31,760
Speaker 14: handle it mentally. You know, we talk so much about

1472
01:10:31,760 --> 01:10:35,439
Speaker 14: with DB's the physical ability and that's great, but having

1473
01:10:35,439 --> 01:10:38,559
Speaker 14: the mental capacity to understand what the offense is doing

1474
01:10:38,720 --> 01:10:41,840
Speaker 14: and then communicate that that's everything. And like we talk

1475
01:10:41,920 --> 01:10:44,000
Speaker 14: so much about Nick mun Warrie for the Seahawks and

1476
01:10:44,040 --> 01:10:46,720
Speaker 14: what he meant this year. Right when you watch the

1477
01:10:46,720 --> 01:10:50,400
Speaker 14: Seattle Seahawks tape, it's Devin Witherspoon that's saying, Hey, Nick,

1478
01:10:50,439 --> 01:10:53,519
Speaker 14: you're doing this, or Hey Tyreekuillan, you're doing this. Devin

1479
01:10:53,520 --> 01:10:56,880
Speaker 14: Witherspoon's getting everybody right. When Devin Witherspoon's not on the field,

1480
01:10:57,040 --> 01:10:59,160
Speaker 14: the Seattle Seahawks defense is not even close to the

1481
01:10:59,200 --> 01:11:01,960
Speaker 14: same because of that communication aspect. It's the same thing

1482
01:11:01,960 --> 01:11:06,160
Speaker 14: with Kaitlyn Downs having not only his ability at safety,

1483
01:11:06,479 --> 01:11:10,080
Speaker 14: but his communication and ability to get everybody lined up

1484
01:11:10,120 --> 01:11:12,320
Speaker 14: in the right spots. That is something that doesn't show

1485
01:11:12,400 --> 01:11:14,200
Speaker 14: up in the box. Ord doesn't get talked about enough,

1486
01:11:14,520 --> 01:11:17,519
Speaker 14: but is something that coaches and scouts certainly care about

1487
01:11:17,560 --> 01:11:20,759
Speaker 14: and something that I will separate down starout the process.

1488
01:11:20,840 --> 01:11:24,200
Speaker 2: All right, last last one, your favorite indie establishment. You

1489
01:11:24,240 --> 01:11:28,240
Speaker 2: call indie home for about a week seemingly every late February.

1490
01:11:28,320 --> 01:11:30,800
Speaker 2: Do you have a and you can't say saying Almo

1491
01:11:31,920 --> 01:11:32,200
Speaker 2: it is?

1492
01:11:32,280 --> 01:11:36,240
Speaker 14: I mean, I'm it's predictable, right, but that is maybe

1493
01:11:36,280 --> 01:11:38,360
Speaker 14: I have to talk to you guys after about maybe

1494
01:11:38,360 --> 01:11:40,840
Speaker 14: some more suggestions. But I've never had a bad meal

1495
01:11:40,880 --> 01:11:44,679
Speaker 14: at Elmos. And you know, it's not just the cowboy ravibe,

1496
01:11:44,720 --> 01:11:48,800
Speaker 14: although that's really what has me coming back, but because

1497
01:11:48,800 --> 01:11:52,439
Speaker 14: I'm not a shrimp person. But even like the bread,

1498
01:11:52,479 --> 01:11:57,360
Speaker 14: Like I know that sounds silly, I agree, great flatbread, yes,

1499
01:11:57,400 --> 01:11:57,920
Speaker 14: flat bread.

1500
01:11:58,000 --> 01:11:58,280
Speaker 3: Yes.

1501
01:11:59,080 --> 01:12:01,519
Speaker 14: I feel like when they see me, they know we'll

1502
01:12:01,520 --> 01:12:03,920
Speaker 14: bring on a second one. Yeah, yeah, that second basket.

1503
01:12:03,960 --> 01:12:04,360
Speaker 12: Did they know?

1504
01:12:04,400 --> 01:12:06,000
Speaker 14: Because that that bread is I try not to fill

1505
01:12:06,080 --> 01:12:07,719
Speaker 14: up on it before the meal. But it's it's hard.

1506
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Speaker 2: It's hard. Hey, as long as you're not dabbling and

1507
01:12:09,800 --> 01:12:13,160
Speaker 2: the Mark Sanchez men, you're there, You're you're in good shait. Dan,

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Speaker 2: What that was fine?

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Speaker 13: Right?

1510
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Speaker 2: Dane Burglar, NFL draft analysts the Beast is absolutely incredible

1511
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Speaker 2: day and you're always great with us, so we appreciate

1512
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Speaker 2: you making.

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Speaker 12: Time again anytime. Thanks guys.

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01:12:24,360 --> 01:12:27,080
Speaker 2: That's Dan Briglar again from the Athletic on the other side,

1515
01:12:27,080 --> 01:12:29,280
Speaker 2: we'll check it down. We did one thing we agreed

1516
01:12:29,280 --> 01:12:31,520
Speaker 2: with from Chris baalor what about one thing we disagreed

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Speaker 2: with from our combo with him yesterday. We'll do that.

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Speaker 3: Right live here at the NFL Combine.

1525
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Speaker 2: Thank you to Dane Briglar, NFL Draft analysts, who just

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01:13:00,200 --> 01:13:03,920
Speaker 2: joined us. We'll share our thoughts and certainly a very

1527
01:13:03,960 --> 01:13:08,479
Speaker 2: locally heavy conversation with Dane in regards to this upcoming draft.

1528
01:13:08,479 --> 01:13:11,840
Speaker 2: But let's begin with a morning check down again today

1529
01:13:11,840 --> 01:13:15,200
Speaker 2: at the Combine. It will be defensive linemen and linebackers

1530
01:13:15,240 --> 01:13:17,920
Speaker 2: working out about three o'clock later today. That's when we'll

1531
01:13:17,960 --> 01:13:20,360
Speaker 2: get things started over there at Lucas soil stadium. I

1532
01:13:20,400 --> 01:13:23,559
Speaker 2: would assume a heavy Cults contingent will have eyes on

1533
01:13:23,600 --> 01:13:26,559
Speaker 2: two big positions of Need and James. Later today we'll

1534
01:13:26,600 --> 01:13:29,880
Speaker 2: hear from the defensive backs, and Dan Brugler seemed to

1535
01:13:29,920 --> 01:13:32,200
Speaker 2: be pretty high on one d Angelo Ponds and Dylan

1536
01:13:32,240 --> 01:13:33,639
Speaker 2: Thineman as well.

1537
01:13:33,920 --> 01:13:34,719
Speaker 3: Oh for sure.

1538
01:13:34,800 --> 01:13:38,679
Speaker 4: And the Ponds angle is very interesting because to conclude

1539
01:13:38,760 --> 01:13:40,360
Speaker 4: the interview, and I'm sure we'll have that up on

1540
01:13:40,400 --> 01:13:43,920
Speaker 4: the pot later today. Dane said, this is a draft

1541
01:13:44,000 --> 01:13:47,479
Speaker 4: where you just draft good players. And I wonder how

1542
01:13:47,560 --> 01:13:51,640
Speaker 4: much of a belief the Angelo Pons can instill in

1543
01:13:51,720 --> 01:13:54,160
Speaker 4: teams to actually do that despite not having.

1544
01:13:53,960 --> 01:13:58,880
Speaker 2: The blue chip traits production over potential, right to quote

1545
01:13:58,920 --> 01:14:01,759
Speaker 2: his college coach, I think that would be very wise

1546
01:14:02,120 --> 01:14:05,400
Speaker 2: with d Angelo Ponds at the NFL level. All right, across,

1547
01:14:05,600 --> 01:14:07,880
Speaker 2: I guess Georgia Street here tonight inside a game Bridge

1548
01:14:07,920 --> 01:14:09,800
Speaker 2: Field House, it will be the Pacers. It will be

1549
01:14:09,840 --> 01:14:14,040
Speaker 2: the Charlotte Hornets. Weirdly, they're good at basketball. I mean,

1550
01:14:14,200 --> 01:14:17,320
Speaker 2: is this Brandon Miller, LaMelo Ball and kan k Nipple.

1551
01:14:17,439 --> 01:14:19,240
Speaker 2: Is that what we're looking out here for? The Hornets?

1552
01:14:19,320 --> 01:14:19,559
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1553
01:14:19,560 --> 01:14:22,000
Speaker 4: I believe Kank Nipple And I was out with dinner

1554
01:14:22,080 --> 01:14:24,400
Speaker 4: last night actually with my guy Mike Kay, who covers

1555
01:14:24,800 --> 01:14:27,840
Speaker 4: the Panthers for the Charlotte Observer, and he was saying

1556
01:14:27,920 --> 01:14:31,479
Speaker 4: he's gonna go cover that game tonight for the Pacers

1557
01:14:31,479 --> 01:14:33,800
Speaker 4: and the Hornets because Kanka Nipple, I believe it's six

1558
01:14:33,880 --> 01:14:37,000
Speaker 4: three pointers away from breaking the rookie record and how

1559
01:14:37,040 --> 01:14:39,719
Speaker 4: many games left in the season NBA, Yes, NBA rookie

1560
01:14:39,760 --> 01:14:41,599
Speaker 4: record for most threes made in the season.

1561
01:14:42,040 --> 01:14:43,760
Speaker 3: He is lighting it up. Wow.

1562
01:14:43,840 --> 01:14:45,679
Speaker 2: Yeah, they are a huge favorite to over the Pacers.

1563
01:14:46,280 --> 01:14:49,160
Speaker 2: Twelve and a half points. For Pacers news, though, Obi

1564
01:14:49,200 --> 01:14:52,880
Speaker 2: Toppin is bumped up to questionable, so we could see

1565
01:14:52,960 --> 01:14:55,920
Speaker 2: Obi top and make his return to game action. He

1566
01:14:56,000 --> 01:14:58,519
Speaker 2: got hurt very early in the season. We're talking late

1567
01:14:58,560 --> 01:15:03,240
Speaker 2: October with that foot injury, So potentially the Pacers getting

1568
01:15:03,280 --> 01:15:05,479
Speaker 2: Obi topping back, as Rick Carlisle told us earlier in

1569
01:15:05,520 --> 01:15:07,880
Speaker 2: the week, maybe another week or two with a Viza

1570
01:15:07,960 --> 01:15:12,200
Speaker 2: Zubots so you could look at mid March maybe a

1571
01:15:12,200 --> 01:15:14,720
Speaker 2: little bit of a healthier Pacers group. I know that

1572
01:15:14,840 --> 01:15:18,439
Speaker 2: might worry some from a winning standpoint, They're still in

1573
01:15:18,479 --> 01:15:21,120
Speaker 2: a pretty good position right now. They could sprinkle in

1574
01:15:21,160 --> 01:15:23,559
Speaker 2: a win or two every so often, and still I

1575
01:15:23,560 --> 01:15:25,800
Speaker 2: think be okay. But I just happen to keep an

1576
01:15:25,800 --> 01:15:28,439
Speaker 2: eye on here as we get into the month of March.

1577
01:15:28,640 --> 01:15:31,120
Speaker 2: Tonight up in West Lafayette, James, it is Perdue, It

1578
01:15:31,160 --> 01:15:33,720
Speaker 2: is Michigan State, and it is a great, great point

1579
01:15:33,760 --> 01:15:34,400
Speaker 2: guard matchup.

1580
01:15:34,760 --> 01:15:36,720
Speaker 4: Oh yes, Jeremy Fiers, who I told you I had

1581
01:15:36,760 --> 01:15:39,200
Speaker 4: a chance to see him playing high school along with

1582
01:15:39,240 --> 01:15:41,559
Speaker 4: his younger brother, Jeremiah Fears is in the NBA playing

1583
01:15:41,560 --> 01:15:44,599
Speaker 4: for the Pelicans. And then so you have Jeremy Feers

1584
01:15:44,600 --> 01:15:47,840
Speaker 4: on one side, Bradon Smith on the other, and I

1585
01:15:47,840 --> 01:15:48,960
Speaker 4: don't know, I we're gonna see a little bit of

1586
01:15:49,000 --> 01:15:52,799
Speaker 4: fireworks there as well, Kevin, because we know the Fears

1587
01:15:52,880 --> 01:15:54,799
Speaker 4: guy can be a little interesting.

1588
01:15:55,200 --> 01:15:56,960
Speaker 2: Indeed, the pank crew might have a word or two

1589
01:15:57,000 --> 01:15:58,599
Speaker 2: for him. Six and a half, seven and a half

1590
01:15:58,600 --> 01:16:01,960
Speaker 2: point favorite, Perdue. It is a white out in Mackie.

1591
01:16:02,439 --> 01:16:05,879
Speaker 2: This is eight o'clock on the Cock. Mentioned this earlier.

1592
01:16:06,120 --> 01:16:11,240
Speaker 2: You know Purdue with this five game stretch here at Nebraska,

1593
01:16:13,280 --> 01:16:16,559
Speaker 2: we're disturbing our Cam here, man, it was Cam got

1594
01:16:16,600 --> 01:16:18,160
Speaker 2: off guard by the yeah a little bit.

1595
01:16:18,240 --> 01:16:20,080
Speaker 3: Yeh, eight o'clock on the mark, Am I wrong? There?

1596
01:16:20,080 --> 01:16:25,720
Speaker 3: It's eight o'clock on the cock right making sure Mark,

1597
01:16:26,479 --> 01:16:28,360
Speaker 3: I'm most serous, say Mark to have his pants on

1598
01:16:28,479 --> 01:16:31,120
Speaker 3: back of the studio. What Mark is doing back right now?

1599
01:16:31,720 --> 01:16:32,439
Speaker 2: Good too?

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01:16:33,160 --> 01:16:33,240
Speaker 3: Uh.

1601
01:16:33,360 --> 01:16:34,679
Speaker 2: You know, if you look at this five game stretch

1602
01:16:34,680 --> 01:16:36,879
Speaker 2: for PDU, it was a gauntlet entering it at Nebraska,

1603
01:16:36,960 --> 01:16:39,680
Speaker 2: at Iowa, home to Michigan, home to Indiana, and now

1604
01:16:39,680 --> 01:16:42,240
Speaker 2: tonight in Michigan State. If they win tonight, that's four

1605
01:16:42,240 --> 01:16:45,160
Speaker 2: and one in that stretch. So uh, you know, for

1606
01:16:45,240 --> 01:16:47,200
Speaker 2: all the questions about where Purdue's at right now, you

1607
01:16:47,240 --> 01:16:49,320
Speaker 2: go four and one in that stretch. That is quite

1608
01:16:49,360 --> 01:16:52,960
Speaker 2: something there. So again eight o'clock tonight for the Boilers.

1609
01:16:53,120 --> 01:16:57,120
Speaker 2: Butler loses last night in Philly do a pretty quality

1610
01:16:57,200 --> 01:16:59,719
Speaker 2: Villanova team. They're definitely gonna be in the NCAA tournament.

1611
01:17:00,160 --> 01:17:02,720
Speaker 2: Butler cut it to one or two. I was watching that,

1612
01:17:02,800 --> 01:17:04,840
Speaker 2: I don't know, eight to go something like that, but

1613
01:17:05,640 --> 01:17:08,920
Speaker 2: they cannot make another run from there. Villanova answered pretty emphatically.

1614
01:17:08,920 --> 01:17:11,479
Speaker 2: A rough night shooting from three for Butler. Hard to

1615
01:17:12,400 --> 01:17:15,640
Speaker 2: formulate the recipe needed for a road upset.

1616
01:17:15,720 --> 01:17:16,200
Speaker 3: With that.

1617
01:17:17,439 --> 01:17:21,080
Speaker 2: Other news items again, the Saint Pete IndyCar season opener

1618
01:17:21,200 --> 01:17:23,800
Speaker 2: coming up Sunday at noon. You can hear that on

1619
01:17:23,840 --> 01:17:24,640
Speaker 2: these airwaves.

1620
01:17:25,360 --> 01:17:27,040
Speaker 3: That is Big Fox at noon.

1621
01:17:27,040 --> 01:17:30,839
Speaker 2: Again, it's a very busy month of March for Indye

1622
01:17:30,880 --> 01:17:33,120
Speaker 2: car so we will hit that and James Boyd. We

1623
01:17:33,160 --> 01:17:37,200
Speaker 2: got the girls basketball state finals coming up this weekend. Locally,

1624
01:17:37,200 --> 01:17:40,960
Speaker 2: it's ron Klli and it's Belmont in three A. And

1625
01:17:41,000 --> 01:17:43,879
Speaker 2: then speaking of kind of that area, I guess somewhat northeast,

1626
01:17:43,920 --> 01:17:47,479
Speaker 2: somewhat fort Wayney up there. You've got norwell, not a

1627
01:17:47,479 --> 01:17:49,439
Speaker 2: big enrollment, but they're up in the four A class

1628
01:17:49,760 --> 01:17:52,920
Speaker 2: and they have got the undefeated Trojans of Center Grove.

1629
01:17:53,240 --> 01:17:56,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, it'll be interesting to see if Center Grove can

1630
01:17:56,520 --> 01:17:57,439
Speaker 4: finish it off.

1631
01:17:57,479 --> 01:17:58,839
Speaker 3: They've had a couple.

1632
01:17:58,680 --> 01:18:01,960
Speaker 4: Of close calls here in the state tournament, but at

1633
01:18:01,960 --> 01:18:03,920
Speaker 4: the same time, you're un defeated for a reason. They

1634
01:18:03,960 --> 01:18:06,200
Speaker 4: find a way to win and everyone wants to win

1635
01:18:06,240 --> 01:18:07,200
Speaker 4: that last game of the year.

1636
01:18:07,800 --> 01:18:09,840
Speaker 2: One thing that I thought was really interesting with Dane

1637
01:18:09,800 --> 01:18:12,840
Speaker 2: Bruglers shared with us, and it should be music to

1638
01:18:12,880 --> 01:18:16,760
Speaker 2: the ears of Colts fans. Sixteen edge rushers in his

1639
01:18:16,880 --> 01:18:20,959
Speaker 2: top one hundred. Yep, you know, it's almost a benefit

1640
01:18:21,000 --> 01:18:23,559
Speaker 2: to the Colts that maybe you don't have the elite

1641
01:18:23,960 --> 01:18:25,599
Speaker 2: at the top of the draft. It seems like more

1642
01:18:25,640 --> 01:18:29,240
Speaker 2: of a draft of depth than anything, particularly in the

1643
01:18:29,280 --> 01:18:31,800
Speaker 2: front seven. I don't think we've sat here at the

1644
01:18:31,840 --> 01:18:34,479
Speaker 2: combine in recent years and said that very often, So

1645
01:18:34,880 --> 01:18:38,160
Speaker 2: I think that really fits frankly what the Colts need

1646
01:18:38,400 --> 01:18:40,839
Speaker 2: here coming up in less than two months.

1647
01:18:40,960 --> 01:18:44,759
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm interested to see again in relation to that, Kevin,

1648
01:18:45,240 --> 01:18:49,120
Speaker 4: when Chris Ballard says we are thinking about and we

1649
01:18:49,240 --> 01:18:53,280
Speaker 4: probably will trade back, is that part of the equation.

1650
01:18:53,960 --> 01:18:55,680
Speaker 4: Could we trade back because you know he loves to

1651
01:18:55,680 --> 01:18:56,800
Speaker 4: do that and keep us in the room a little

1652
01:18:56,800 --> 01:18:58,519
Speaker 4: bit longer than we have to be, hopefully at West

1653
01:18:58,520 --> 01:19:02,640
Speaker 4: fifty sixth Street. But joke the side, if you do

1654
01:19:02,800 --> 01:19:05,400
Speaker 4: move back, are you comfortable and confidence you can still

1655
01:19:05,439 --> 01:19:08,400
Speaker 4: get a guy that can be a difference maker on

1656
01:19:08,439 --> 01:19:09,400
Speaker 4: the defensive line.

1657
01:19:09,560 --> 01:19:11,320
Speaker 2: We have And one thing A Ballert did say the

1658
01:19:11,360 --> 01:19:13,439
Speaker 2: other day, he feels like not only the draft but

1659
01:19:13,439 --> 01:19:16,040
Speaker 2: also potentially free agency could have a little bit more

1660
01:19:16,280 --> 01:19:19,080
Speaker 2: edge rush presence, and I think it'd be very wise

1661
01:19:19,120 --> 01:19:21,840
Speaker 2: if they tried to double dip in both. All right,

1662
01:19:21,880 --> 01:19:24,640
Speaker 2: earlier in the show, we did what we agreed on

1663
01:19:25,439 --> 01:19:29,000
Speaker 2: with chrisp Bout in our conversation with him yesterday. Now

1664
01:19:29,040 --> 01:19:32,959
Speaker 2: we'll flip it. What about the disagree aspect to his interview?

1665
01:19:33,439 --> 01:19:35,240
Speaker 2: We will hit on that. On the other side. It

1666
01:19:35,320 --> 01:19:37,639
Speaker 2: is Kevin Bowen and James Boyd live here at the end.

1667
01:19:37,600 --> 01:19:48,800
Speaker 15: Of Change, live from the NFL Combine in downtown Indianapolis.

1668
01:19:49,000 --> 01:19:51,080
Speaker 11: You were listening to the Fan Morning show.

1669
01:19:53,120 --> 01:19:55,840
Speaker 2: Thanks definitely starting to pick up here inside of the

1670
01:19:55,920 --> 01:20:00,120
Speaker 2: convention Center. Defensive backs currently chatting with the media on

1671
01:20:00,160 --> 01:20:03,879
Speaker 2: the other side of the curtain. If you're watching on YouTube, Hey, YouTube,

1672
01:20:03,880 --> 01:20:07,280
Speaker 2: thank you very much to the audience over there. It's myself,

1673
01:20:07,360 --> 01:20:11,479
Speaker 2: Kevin Bowen, James Boyd, on site, engineer Cam back in studio,

1674
01:20:11,640 --> 01:20:13,920
Speaker 2: Mark diked in and we are getting you set here

1675
01:20:14,360 --> 01:20:16,679
Speaker 2: for what is our first day of on field workouts

1676
01:20:16,680 --> 01:20:19,400
Speaker 2: at the Combine. Again, we had Dane Brugler, NFL Draft

1677
01:20:19,439 --> 01:20:23,240
Speaker 2: analyst on earlier. We've gotten some questions, James about the

1678
01:20:23,280 --> 01:20:26,360
Speaker 2: whole trade back thought from Chris Ballard. Maybe something hit

1679
01:20:26,400 --> 01:20:30,160
Speaker 2: on in the nine o'clock hour, but let's go the

1680
01:20:30,240 --> 01:20:33,240
Speaker 2: reverse of what we did earlier. Earlier in the show, again,

1681
01:20:33,280 --> 01:20:36,000
Speaker 2: we had Chris Ballard on yesterday. We replayed that for

1682
01:20:36,080 --> 01:20:39,680
Speaker 2: our seven o'clock audience this morning. We went with one

1683
01:20:39,720 --> 01:20:42,680
Speaker 2: item we agreed on with what Chris Ballard had to

1684
01:20:42,680 --> 01:20:44,759
Speaker 2: say yesterday with us.

1685
01:20:44,960 --> 01:20:46,280
Speaker 3: Let's now flip.

1686
01:20:46,000 --> 01:20:49,519
Speaker 2: It one thing you disagreed with and Mark dykedon why

1687
01:20:49,520 --> 01:20:52,800
Speaker 2: don't you lead us off one thing you disagreed with

1688
01:20:52,840 --> 01:20:55,080
Speaker 2: from what Chris Ballard had to say with us yesterday.

1689
01:20:55,360 --> 01:20:57,960
Speaker 5: Well, I would say the conversation about the eight and

1690
01:20:57,960 --> 01:21:00,600
Speaker 5: two start in the ohen seven finish kind of was

1691
01:21:00,720 --> 01:21:03,280
Speaker 5: leaning towards like, well, you know, if we were only

1692
01:21:03,320 --> 01:21:05,679
Speaker 5: healthy and stuff and we didn't turn the ball over

1693
01:21:05,800 --> 01:21:08,880
Speaker 5: as much. I mean, yes, that's true, but there was

1694
01:21:08,920 --> 01:21:11,639
Speaker 5: also way more to that than just turnovers and health.

1695
01:21:11,720 --> 01:21:14,360
Speaker 5: Like Jonathan Taylor fell off a cliff as far as

1696
01:21:14,360 --> 01:21:17,479
Speaker 5: that was concerned. The offensive line didn't look right, and

1697
01:21:17,520 --> 01:21:20,000
Speaker 5: just a lot of things were not going well. And

1698
01:21:20,040 --> 01:21:23,160
Speaker 5: I think to just blame it on injuries and not

1699
01:21:23,240 --> 01:21:25,120
Speaker 5: protecting the football, yes, that's a part of it, but

1700
01:21:25,160 --> 01:21:27,760
Speaker 5: that's not the whole thing. And to lose seven in

1701
01:21:27,840 --> 01:21:30,160
Speaker 5: a row to end the season when you were eight

1702
01:21:30,160 --> 01:21:32,800
Speaker 5: and two to start, and I think we've discussed it

1703
01:21:32,800 --> 01:21:36,240
Speaker 5: at length, to go be five games clear of missing

1704
01:21:36,320 --> 01:21:40,840
Speaker 5: the playoffs, I mean, that's an insane trajectory to go

1705
01:21:40,920 --> 01:21:43,160
Speaker 5: from one inspectrum to the other and just a complete

1706
01:21:43,200 --> 01:21:45,800
Speaker 5: fall off a cliff moment. So to just blame it

1707
01:21:45,840 --> 01:21:47,439
Speaker 5: on oh, well, it was just because we had no

1708
01:21:47,560 --> 01:21:50,479
Speaker 5: health We had health issues and turnover issues. There was

1709
01:21:50,479 --> 01:21:52,640
Speaker 5: something deeper than that, because that team going zh to

1710
01:21:52,680 --> 01:21:55,000
Speaker 5: seven that should not happen for most teams. And the

1711
01:21:55,040 --> 01:21:57,960
Speaker 5: fact that they couldn't recover after the game against the Falcons,

1712
01:21:58,080 --> 01:22:01,799
Speaker 5: I mean that was shocking. So little more self reflection

1713
01:22:01,840 --> 01:22:03,479
Speaker 5: needs to take place in that regard.

1714
01:22:04,120 --> 01:22:06,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, five games clear of the division, three games clear

1715
01:22:06,720 --> 01:22:10,479
Speaker 2: of the playoffs, just trying to re clarify that. But yeah,

1716
01:22:10,520 --> 01:22:14,800
Speaker 2: I think Mark makes a lot of good points, James.

1717
01:22:14,960 --> 01:22:18,160
Speaker 2: One thing you disagreed with from what Chris Ballard said yesterday.

1718
01:22:18,640 --> 01:22:20,920
Speaker 4: I don't think it was like a definitive statement, but

1719
01:22:21,040 --> 01:22:25,559
Speaker 4: just the whole conversation around Anthony Richardson. On one hand,

1720
01:22:25,640 --> 01:22:27,760
Speaker 4: you still believe in him, and he was telling us, hey,

1721
01:22:27,800 --> 01:22:31,000
Speaker 4: he looked at the edge of the cliff and didn't jump,

1722
01:22:31,080 --> 01:22:34,599
Speaker 4: and we still believe in him. But you're not gonna

1723
01:22:34,600 --> 01:22:40,200
Speaker 4: pick a fifth of your option and a trade is

1724
01:22:40,680 --> 01:22:44,800
Speaker 4: very realistic. So that to me kind of solidifies that

1725
01:22:45,720 --> 01:22:48,479
Speaker 4: although you may believe in him, and I want to

1726
01:22:48,520 --> 01:22:52,000
Speaker 4: say this very clearly, like he has championed Anthony Richardson

1727
01:22:52,080 --> 01:22:56,000
Speaker 4: like none other I would say, Kevin, but the tune

1728
01:22:56,120 --> 01:23:00,599
Speaker 4: has changed a lot since even the beginning of last year.

1729
01:23:00,720 --> 01:23:04,120
Speaker 4: He said definitively we're not trading him, so now we'll

1730
01:23:04,160 --> 01:23:06,599
Speaker 4: see what the future holds, and it's a little bit grayer.

1731
01:23:06,720 --> 01:23:09,439
Speaker 4: So to me, I just think that you trying to

1732
01:23:09,600 --> 01:23:12,559
Speaker 4: sell that Anthony still has a future here is not

1733
01:23:12,600 --> 01:23:15,840
Speaker 4: realistic at all. And perhaps that's just you protecting his

1734
01:23:15,920 --> 01:23:18,920
Speaker 4: potential trade value. But the bottom line is we all

1735
01:23:19,000 --> 01:23:21,640
Speaker 4: can put two and two together. If he wants to

1736
01:23:21,680 --> 01:23:25,760
Speaker 4: start again, his clearest path to doing so is not

1737
01:23:25,800 --> 01:23:26,600
Speaker 4: in Indianapolis.

1738
01:23:26,600 --> 01:23:28,439
Speaker 3: And it's not just because of Daniel Jones.

1739
01:23:28,720 --> 01:23:32,639
Speaker 4: It's also the praise they've heaped on Riley Leonard as

1740
01:23:32,960 --> 01:23:33,519
Speaker 4: QB two.

1741
01:23:33,960 --> 01:23:36,520
Speaker 2: When don't you think we get a Richardson answer.

1742
01:23:37,280 --> 01:23:39,960
Speaker 3: As far as his eye or his.

1743
01:23:39,840 --> 01:23:42,960
Speaker 2: Future his future because like we always use the phrase

1744
01:23:43,080 --> 01:23:45,960
Speaker 2: deadline sperat, yeah, you bring up the fifth year team option,

1745
01:23:46,680 --> 01:23:49,200
Speaker 2: that decision is not due till May. For exact example,

1746
01:23:49,400 --> 01:23:51,760
Speaker 2: he's not a free agent, he's under contract next year.

1747
01:23:52,120 --> 01:23:54,479
Speaker 2: The cap that is significant in ten point eight million

1748
01:23:54,920 --> 01:23:58,280
Speaker 2: for a backup. So I guess if you're trading him

1749
01:23:58,280 --> 01:24:01,640
Speaker 2: for a draft pick, then maybe April. But do we

1750
01:24:01,680 --> 01:24:04,360
Speaker 2: get a decision as early as next week or you know,

1751
01:24:04,439 --> 01:24:06,080
Speaker 2: is it before free agency because you want to use

1752
01:24:06,120 --> 01:24:08,439
Speaker 2: that that cap space a little bit more. What do

1753
01:24:08,520 --> 01:24:09,160
Speaker 2: you think that is?

1754
01:24:09,520 --> 01:24:12,800
Speaker 4: I think it would probably have to happen around the

1755
01:24:12,840 --> 01:24:16,080
Speaker 4: time of free agency, and perhaps it could be sooner.

1756
01:24:16,120 --> 01:24:18,400
Speaker 4: But I think that to me is kind of like

1757
01:24:18,760 --> 01:24:22,800
Speaker 4: the deadline because by then you start to see where

1758
01:24:22,840 --> 01:24:25,400
Speaker 4: a couple of guys, where a couple of quarterbacks in particular,

1759
01:24:25,520 --> 01:24:29,439
Speaker 4: might end up, and that could kind of sway. Okay, if,

1760
01:24:29,960 --> 01:24:34,200
Speaker 4: for example, I don't know, Daniel Jones remains with the

1761
01:24:34,240 --> 01:24:36,559
Speaker 4: Colts or Daniel Jones goes elsewhere, that affects the rest

1762
01:24:36,560 --> 01:24:38,439
Speaker 4: of the quarterback market, is what I'm saying. And then

1763
01:24:38,479 --> 01:24:43,000
Speaker 4: if you're Anthony Richardson, you have a better layout of

1764
01:24:43,040 --> 01:24:45,920
Speaker 4: what teams actually might want your services or might want

1765
01:24:45,920 --> 01:24:48,120
Speaker 4: to take a chance on you. So I would say

1766
01:24:48,320 --> 01:24:50,560
Speaker 4: that for sure. And then to your point about a

1767
01:24:50,640 --> 01:24:52,519
Speaker 4: draft pick, if the cults are like, hey, we're going

1768
01:24:52,560 --> 01:24:54,599
Speaker 4: to just try to get something back for him, then

1769
01:24:54,640 --> 01:24:55,960
Speaker 4: of course it be before the draft.

1770
01:24:56,080 --> 01:24:59,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, my disagreement from something Ballad had to say yesterday

1771
01:24:59,840 --> 01:25:03,920
Speaker 2: was when asked about the misses a defensive end. I

1772
01:25:04,040 --> 01:25:06,880
Speaker 2: was rather stunned to hear him try to spin that.

1773
01:25:07,080 --> 01:25:09,080
Speaker 2: And it's not been as big of a problem as

1774
01:25:09,120 --> 01:25:13,160
Speaker 2: it really is, you know, if you want to look

1775
01:25:13,200 --> 01:25:16,519
Speaker 2: at it, he has spent and let's not go with

1776
01:25:16,640 --> 01:25:20,280
Speaker 2: Latsu and JT. Twumloau into that category yet because they're

1777
01:25:20,280 --> 01:25:23,200
Speaker 2: still in their rookie contracts. But James, he has spent

1778
01:25:24,040 --> 01:25:29,679
Speaker 2: five top three round picks on pass rushers. Yep, none

1779
01:25:29,760 --> 01:25:34,439
Speaker 2: of them have sniffed a second contract. Again, five first,

1780
01:25:34,560 --> 01:25:38,120
Speaker 2: second or third round picks on pass rushers, and none

1781
01:25:38,160 --> 01:25:42,280
Speaker 2: of them have gotten to that second contract. And the

1782
01:25:42,320 --> 01:25:44,479
Speaker 2: assumption there obviously his quidy pay will not be back

1783
01:25:44,720 --> 01:25:49,599
Speaker 2: Ben Bannagu, Kamoko, tre you know, you know, multi year

1784
01:25:49,680 --> 01:25:52,400
Speaker 2: second contracts with these guys. None of you go back

1785
01:25:52,400 --> 01:25:54,479
Speaker 2: to Treel Bashman in the first draft, none of them.

1786
01:25:54,520 --> 01:25:56,960
Speaker 2: And you know he tried to counter yesterday saying, you know, well,

1787
01:25:57,000 --> 01:25:59,040
Speaker 2: we had a pretty good sack number last you know,

1788
01:25:59,080 --> 01:26:01,880
Speaker 2: a couple of years ago. Again that comes from a

1789
01:26:01,880 --> 01:26:05,200
Speaker 2: deforce Buckner trade or Samson Epicom free agent signing when

1790
01:26:05,240 --> 01:26:08,360
Speaker 2: he was healthy. It has not come from the drafting

1791
01:26:08,680 --> 01:26:11,280
Speaker 2: of players, and they have tried. It's not a lack

1792
01:26:11,320 --> 01:26:13,880
Speaker 2: of trying by any means. You know, you can play

1793
01:26:13,920 --> 01:26:15,960
Speaker 2: the quarterback game and say, well, they didn't really try

1794
01:26:16,000 --> 01:26:18,040
Speaker 2: to find the young quarterback for several years there.

1795
01:26:18,160 --> 01:26:19,000
Speaker 3: That is true.

1796
01:26:19,120 --> 01:26:24,599
Speaker 2: They have tried routinely, almost annually to draft edge rusher,

1797
01:26:24,640 --> 01:26:28,880
Speaker 2: specifically defensive ends, and they have routinely swung and missed.

1798
01:26:28,880 --> 01:26:31,840
Speaker 2: So I was a little, I don't know, caught off

1799
01:26:31,880 --> 01:26:34,519
Speaker 2: guard by that there. You know, again, as I said

1800
01:26:34,520 --> 01:26:37,600
Speaker 2: about yesterday, they've drafted extraordinarily well at offensive line, but

1801
01:26:37,720 --> 01:26:40,800
Speaker 2: it's the exact opposite at defensive end. And we'll see

1802
01:26:40,800 --> 01:26:42,040
Speaker 2: you know a lot too. I think it's trending in

1803
01:26:42,040 --> 01:26:44,120
Speaker 2: a nice direction. Jac to him, Alla, I don't want

1804
01:26:44,120 --> 01:26:46,280
Speaker 2: to make too much out of one season, but you know,

1805
01:26:46,320 --> 01:26:49,840
Speaker 2: he hardly did anything in his rookie year. But yeah,

1806
01:26:49,880 --> 01:26:54,760
Speaker 2: I was that one surprised me. He got rather defensive

1807
01:26:55,320 --> 01:26:55,880
Speaker 2: with that one.

1808
01:26:56,680 --> 01:26:59,320
Speaker 4: And again I think that also was part of the

1809
01:26:59,320 --> 01:27:04,680
Speaker 4: reaction receives Kevin from the listeners is you know how

1810
01:27:04,720 --> 01:27:07,320
Speaker 4: ballad is. He's gonna punch back, He's gonna push back.

1811
01:27:07,360 --> 01:27:09,280
Speaker 4: But some of the defensiveness, even when it comes to

1812
01:27:09,760 --> 01:27:12,080
Speaker 4: how he's perceived perhaps on social media.

1813
01:27:13,200 --> 01:27:13,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, and.

1814
01:27:15,280 --> 01:27:18,280
Speaker 4: I think that's a message you can have, and perhaps

1815
01:27:18,320 --> 01:27:22,880
Speaker 4: it's one of those right message, wrong messenger, because social

1816
01:27:22,920 --> 01:27:25,639
Speaker 4: media can be I think a bit ridiculous at times.

1817
01:27:25,640 --> 01:27:29,680
Speaker 4: But I will say most of the fans, or a

1818
01:27:29,720 --> 01:27:32,320
Speaker 4: good portion of them, who have expressed their frustration in

1819
01:27:32,360 --> 01:27:36,639
Speaker 4: a civilized manner, have a right to do so.

1820
01:27:36,720 --> 01:27:38,280
Speaker 3: And he did admit that part of it.

1821
01:27:38,320 --> 01:27:40,920
Speaker 4: But I think him kind of like sitting there like

1822
01:27:41,080 --> 01:27:45,880
Speaker 4: I'm kind of above, you know, perhaps some criticism and

1823
01:27:45,920 --> 01:27:49,200
Speaker 4: how it comes off. Man, you gotta follow on the

1824
01:27:49,200 --> 01:27:52,200
Speaker 4: sword brother that that one is never gonna resonate, especially

1825
01:27:52,240 --> 01:27:53,800
Speaker 4: when you're a mid a five year playoffs drop.

1826
01:27:54,200 --> 01:27:56,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, when you sign up to be an NFL general

1827
01:27:56,880 --> 01:28:02,760
Speaker 2: manager and you have a resume zero division titles, two

1828
01:28:03,040 --> 01:28:08,920
Speaker 2: playoff appearances in one playoff win, criticism is gonna come, period.

1829
01:28:09,320 --> 01:28:13,600
Speaker 2: And if you are not going to accept that criticism,

1830
01:28:13,640 --> 01:28:16,200
Speaker 2: then whatever that I've.

1831
01:28:16,120 --> 01:28:19,120
Speaker 4: Asked a get out of the kitchen juju or shimmer question.

1832
01:28:19,560 --> 01:28:21,240
Speaker 4: I know there's been too much on the note.

1833
01:28:21,400 --> 01:28:23,479
Speaker 2: Honestly, the juju shimmer question I feel likes a little

1834
01:28:23,479 --> 01:28:27,040
Speaker 2: bit more like Carl ORSA Gordon. I know, you know, honestly,

1835
01:28:27,080 --> 01:28:29,000
Speaker 2: when you're an owner's meeting, it's coming up in a month.

1836
01:28:29,080 --> 01:28:31,439
Speaker 2: Oh brother is written now you know that to me

1837
01:28:31,560 --> 01:28:34,960
Speaker 2: is more of the why was that the number one

1838
01:28:35,080 --> 01:28:37,120
Speaker 2: question for him? You know I've said this before and

1839
01:28:37,160 --> 01:28:39,200
Speaker 2: I don't necessarily want to rehash it, but like to me,

1840
01:28:39,280 --> 01:28:41,479
Speaker 2: that's a question that the Seahawks asked Pete Carroll a

1841
01:28:41,520 --> 01:28:43,880
Speaker 2: couple of years ago. The Patriots asked Bill Belichick a

1842
01:28:43,920 --> 01:28:45,960
Speaker 2: couple of years ago. Do you still have something left

1843
01:28:46,000 --> 01:28:46,360
Speaker 2: in the tank?

1844
01:28:46,479 --> 01:28:46,679
Speaker 3: Right?

1845
01:28:46,760 --> 01:28:49,160
Speaker 2: You know these fad mata if you want to go

1846
01:28:49,160 --> 01:28:51,120
Speaker 2: to the college basketball angle, you know, in this new

1847
01:28:51,160 --> 01:28:55,439
Speaker 2: era of college basketball, the Jay Wrights and the you know,

1848
01:28:55,760 --> 01:28:58,960
Speaker 2: those types of coaches of the world, do you still

1849
01:28:59,000 --> 01:29:02,640
Speaker 2: have the desire to do the job as is I

1850
01:29:02,680 --> 01:29:03,439
Speaker 2: we'll talk a little.

1851
01:29:04,720 --> 01:29:09,479
Speaker 8: I have not lost my shimmer, juju or confidence or

1852
01:29:09,479 --> 01:29:10,320
Speaker 8: whatever you want to say.

1853
01:29:10,320 --> 01:29:12,479
Speaker 2: It is sounds like Mark in the bedroom.

1854
01:29:13,439 --> 01:29:18,720
Speaker 16: What excuse me, boy boy, boy boy, because you buy

1855
01:29:18,840 --> 01:29:23,880
Speaker 16: me a hamm and bears sir, No taking some liberties here, Mark.

1856
01:29:23,920 --> 01:29:25,960
Speaker 2: I think I got an update that the shirt might

1857
01:29:26,000 --> 01:29:26,920
Speaker 2: be delivered tonight.

1858
01:29:28,240 --> 01:29:30,280
Speaker 5: Then they'd better be hand delivered after that.

1859
01:29:30,360 --> 01:29:33,000
Speaker 2: Last look at that, look at that. We can be

1860
01:29:33,000 --> 01:29:35,080
Speaker 2: honest something here. I will talk a little pacers. Where

1861
01:29:35,080 --> 01:29:38,000
Speaker 2: are we at with the CBA and the WNBA. We'll

1862
01:29:38,040 --> 01:29:39,679
Speaker 2: do that coming up on the other side it. Scott

1863
01:29:39,680 --> 01:29:43,559
Speaker 2: Agnes joins us next. All right, we had a live

1864
01:29:43,600 --> 01:29:47,240
Speaker 2: here at nine o'clock hour at the NFL Commbine the

1865
01:29:47,320 --> 01:29:51,639
Speaker 2: Conventions Center where we are located. Thank you to day

1866
01:29:51,680 --> 01:29:54,599
Speaker 2: In Brugler, NFL draft analysts who joined us a little

1867
01:29:54,600 --> 01:29:57,080
Speaker 2: bit earlier. We'll get back into that conversation, some thoughts,

1868
01:29:57,120 --> 01:30:01,400
Speaker 2: some takeaways on that. Just reminder. Defensive backs chatting with

1869
01:30:01,439 --> 01:30:03,960
Speaker 2: the media. Lewis Moore, I forgot about him, the safety

1870
01:30:03,960 --> 01:30:08,240
Speaker 2: from Indiana as well with D'Angelo Ponds. They're chatting today.

1871
01:30:08,360 --> 01:30:11,240
Speaker 2: And then we'll get defensive linemen and linebackers including Aidan

1872
01:30:11,280 --> 01:30:14,400
Speaker 2: Fisher working out, Kayden Curry working out as well, the

1873
01:30:14,439 --> 01:30:17,240
Speaker 2: center Grove product as on field workouts begins.

1874
01:30:17,400 --> 01:30:20,120
Speaker 4: He allowed in this stand up, you know, I know

1875
01:30:20,200 --> 01:30:21,360
Speaker 4: he's like a star, he's from here.

1876
01:30:21,439 --> 01:30:22,720
Speaker 3: Was he allowed in this date? After what the hit

1877
01:30:22,760 --> 01:30:23,759
Speaker 3: he put on Mendoza.

1878
01:30:23,960 --> 01:30:25,640
Speaker 2: I was gonna say he sees Fanana Mendoza in the

1879
01:30:25,640 --> 01:30:28,920
Speaker 2: hallway and for Nana Mendoza, calls for Pat Coogan, try

1880
01:30:28,960 --> 01:30:31,400
Speaker 2: to make sure, hey, any little bodyguard after the Big

1881
01:30:31,400 --> 01:30:35,640
Speaker 2: ten Championship, so plenty to talk combine and we'll do that,

1882
01:30:35,800 --> 01:30:37,880
Speaker 2: but right now, let's focus a little bit on the

1883
01:30:37,880 --> 01:30:42,200
Speaker 2: Pacers and the latest on the WNBA and their CBA negotiations.

1884
01:30:42,240 --> 01:30:44,120
Speaker 2: We have him on pretty much every Thursday. He is

1885
01:30:44,160 --> 01:30:47,479
Speaker 2: Scott Agnes from field House File. Scott, good morning, sir,

1886
01:30:48,240 --> 01:30:51,879
Speaker 2: Good morning guys. Let's I guess start with Rick Carlyle

1887
01:30:52,000 --> 01:30:56,240
Speaker 2: and his very candon comments the other morning about the

1888
01:30:56,280 --> 01:30:58,960
Speaker 2: Aaron Nee Smith situation. I guess one hundred thousand dollars

1889
01:30:58,960 --> 01:31:01,439
Speaker 2: fine for the Pacers. I know you received a statement

1890
01:31:01,439 --> 01:31:04,519
Speaker 2: from the NBA on that. What did you make of

1891
01:31:04,560 --> 01:31:06,960
Speaker 2: the back and forth of the he said, she said

1892
01:31:07,360 --> 01:31:09,280
Speaker 2: between the Pacers and the league.

1893
01:31:09,920 --> 01:31:12,439
Speaker 17: Yeah, it's interesting being kind of a neutral observer from

1894
01:31:12,479 --> 01:31:16,559
Speaker 17: the outside and what's going on there, and the fact

1895
01:31:16,560 --> 01:31:18,320
Speaker 17: that clearly before All.

1896
01:31:18,200 --> 01:31:21,040
Speaker 13: Star weekend, the NBA wanted to make a point.

1897
01:31:20,720 --> 01:31:24,280
Speaker 17: With this before Adam Silver made his comments, and then.

1898
01:31:24,360 --> 01:31:26,320
Speaker 13: The Pacers, led by Rick Carlile.

1899
01:31:25,920 --> 01:31:29,759
Speaker 17: Disputing, hey, there wasn't what medical review here, and during

1900
01:31:29,760 --> 01:31:33,559
Speaker 17: the conversation is concerning to me based on what Rick

1901
01:31:33,640 --> 01:31:36,760
Speaker 17: said about, Yeah, you know, can this player play medicated?

1902
01:31:36,840 --> 01:31:38,240
Speaker 17: Like what are we doing here? Why is he not

1903
01:31:38,320 --> 01:31:40,640
Speaker 17: out there? Type of thing? And I think it just

1904
01:31:40,720 --> 01:31:45,760
Speaker 17: gets dangerous kV when somebody outside of the player, the

1905
01:31:45,880 --> 01:31:49,439
Speaker 17: team doctors come in and try to say whether a

1906
01:31:49,479 --> 01:31:52,559
Speaker 17: player shoult or should not play, or when an outside

1907
01:31:52,600 --> 01:31:55,760
Speaker 17: force says a player should or should not play in

1908
01:31:55,800 --> 01:31:59,719
Speaker 17: this quarter or whatever, like what happened with the Utah Jazz.

1909
01:31:59,760 --> 01:32:01,400
Speaker 13: So it's tricky walkers here.

1910
01:32:01,400 --> 01:32:03,559
Speaker 17: I think we all want the same result, and that's

1911
01:32:03,600 --> 01:32:06,320
Speaker 17: for healthy players to be playing and more stars to

1912
01:32:06,439 --> 01:32:11,760
Speaker 17: be playing. But it's been an interesting world to navigate

1913
01:32:11,840 --> 01:32:14,840
Speaker 17: here over these next twenty five games.

1914
01:32:14,920 --> 01:32:16,280
Speaker 13: Is they wrap up this.

1915
01:32:16,280 --> 01:32:20,800
Speaker 4: Season, Scott One more on the whole tanking thing and

1916
01:32:20,840 --> 01:32:25,200
Speaker 4: specifically the player participation policy. I would say for anything

1917
01:32:25,280 --> 01:32:26,840
Speaker 4: like me, but you are your own beasts when it

1918
01:32:26,880 --> 01:32:28,639
Speaker 4: comes to knowing the ins and out's and the weirdness

1919
01:32:28,640 --> 01:32:32,240
Speaker 4: of the NBA. But the clause that is in the

1920
01:32:32,280 --> 01:32:37,160
Speaker 4: player Participation policy that basically says Adam Silver just to

1921
01:32:37,280 --> 01:32:41,120
Speaker 4: choose when he wants to penalize teams for perceived tanking

1922
01:32:41,240 --> 01:32:44,160
Speaker 4: or lack of integrity, for the game. What is your

1923
01:32:44,280 --> 01:32:47,400
Speaker 4: interpretation of that and maybe the unilateral parel that he

1924
01:32:47,479 --> 01:32:51,120
Speaker 4: possesses to pick and choose when he wants to.

1925
01:32:51,360 --> 01:32:52,519
Speaker 3: I guess put the hammer down.

1926
01:32:54,200 --> 01:32:58,040
Speaker 17: Yeah, My understanding is with all of that, it applies

1927
01:32:58,240 --> 01:33:02,080
Speaker 17: obviously to what they do team as All Stars or

1928
01:33:02,160 --> 01:33:04,599
Speaker 17: Stars of the league, right, guys that have been All

1929
01:33:04,720 --> 01:33:07,600
Speaker 17: NBA or All Stars in the last three seasons.

1930
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Speaker 13: And if that's not the and if that.

1931
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Speaker 17: Player does not play, And mostly back then when this

1932
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Speaker 17: was made, James, you may remember, it was mostly to

1933
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Speaker 17: the TV considerations, right, Like a player would play one

1934
01:33:19,280 --> 01:33:21,040
Speaker 17: game and then would sit out the next game and

1935
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Speaker 17: be a featured you know, Lakers Celtics game, and two

1936
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Speaker 17: of the stars would not be playing. And so that

1937
01:33:26,920 --> 01:33:29,880
Speaker 17: was right before the TV deal with all of that.

1938
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Speaker 17: And so the entire goal of it obviously was to

1939
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Speaker 17: keep stars playing in the games that more people are seen.

1940
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Speaker 17: But you're right from there, it's kind of when is

1941
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Speaker 17: this being applied and when does it matter? And because

1942
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Speaker 17: this is what we saw in years past, right with

1943
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Speaker 17: how Oklahoma City and San Antonio built the rosters years

1944
01:33:52,200 --> 01:33:54,760
Speaker 17: and years ago. And so that's why these two or

1945
01:33:54,760 --> 01:33:57,360
Speaker 17: two of the top scenes in the Western Conference. But yeah,

1946
01:33:57,360 --> 01:33:59,559
Speaker 17: in terms of Adam Silver's power and when does he

1947
01:34:00,160 --> 01:34:04,280
Speaker 17: utilize that to make a point of something, it seems

1948
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Speaker 17: like it's mostly when a situation has gotten so bad

1949
01:34:07,240 --> 01:34:10,439
Speaker 17: or it's so glaringly obvious that he is compelled to

1950
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Speaker 17: step in. Here because this is the first time the

1951
01:34:12,840 --> 01:34:15,439
Speaker 17: Pacers have been part of one of these fines, Utah

1952
01:34:15,479 --> 01:34:18,200
Speaker 17: has been part of it before exactly.

1953
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Speaker 4: And Tom again, I'm kind of in my wheelhouse here.

1954
01:34:22,080 --> 01:34:25,880
Speaker 4: But Scott, it is weird how I get what you

1955
01:34:25,920 --> 01:34:27,679
Speaker 4: were saying. I had the same reaction to this player

1956
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Speaker 4: participation policy. I was like, wait, this only applies to stars.

1957
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Speaker 4: But I promise you if you go back and read it,

1958
01:34:32,000 --> 01:34:36,040
Speaker 4: there's a tiny clause in like the penalization section that

1959
01:34:36,160 --> 01:34:39,479
Speaker 4: basically says for non star players, and I can read

1960
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Speaker 4: the quote here. It says, you know, basically, the claw

1961
01:34:42,600 --> 01:34:44,759
Speaker 4: states that the Commissioner still has the power to penalize

1962
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Speaker 4: teams who, aside from their star players, to a player

1963
01:34:47,280 --> 01:34:50,880
Speaker 4: who quote does not participate in the game in circumstances

1964
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Speaker 4: are that are, in the opinion of the Commissioner, prejudicial

1965
01:34:54,080 --> 01:34:56,960
Speaker 4: or detrimental to the NBA. So I was like, so,

1966
01:34:57,080 --> 01:34:59,599
Speaker 4: basically you could just choose when you want to penalize guys.

1967
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Speaker 3: In the last I want to hit on with that.

1968
01:35:01,920 --> 01:35:04,120
Speaker 4: What Scott is is, yeah, I know, I'm laughing with

1969
01:35:04,160 --> 01:35:06,960
Speaker 4: you because I'm like, wait, what, Like everything you wrote

1970
01:35:07,000 --> 01:35:09,200
Speaker 4: this policy, seventy five percent of his says star players,

1971
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Speaker 4: and there's one little line that says, well, actually any

1972
01:35:11,640 --> 01:35:13,600
Speaker 4: player if we feel like it is crazy to me,

1973
01:35:13,920 --> 01:35:16,880
Speaker 4: but you talk about how the NBA didn't have the

1974
01:35:16,880 --> 01:35:20,200
Speaker 4: same level of vitriol in the past for tanking. Do

1975
01:35:20,280 --> 01:35:24,160
Speaker 4: you think they're feeling pressure from the betting markets and

1976
01:35:24,200 --> 01:35:27,120
Speaker 4: all the betting partnerships to get guys out there and

1977
01:35:27,160 --> 01:35:29,640
Speaker 4: the substitution patterns and things of that nature because of

1978
01:35:29,680 --> 01:35:31,559
Speaker 4: how much money's invested in that for the league.

1979
01:35:32,520 --> 01:35:32,720
Speaker 13: Yeah.

1980
01:35:32,760 --> 01:35:35,599
Speaker 17: Well, first of all, my first thought was in reaction

1981
01:35:35,680 --> 01:35:37,920
Speaker 17: to that what you were talking initially is like, could

1982
01:35:37,920 --> 01:35:38,840
Speaker 17: he penalize anyone?

1983
01:35:39,000 --> 01:35:40,680
Speaker 13: I think that is a direct.

1984
01:35:40,320 --> 01:35:44,759
Speaker 17: Reflection of based on the other based on the All Stars,

1985
01:35:44,800 --> 01:35:48,559
Speaker 17: all NBA players that are involved, and so at least

1986
01:35:48,560 --> 01:35:51,080
Speaker 17: in my interpretation, and then so in this oh, yeah,

1987
01:35:51,600 --> 01:35:55,280
Speaker 17: it was his understanding because Pascal Siaka and the Pacers

1988
01:35:55,400 --> 01:35:59,160
Speaker 17: star who the PPP applies got you Okay, therefore we're

1989
01:35:59,200 --> 01:36:01,320
Speaker 17: going to look at the rest to the roster and

1990
01:36:01,520 --> 01:36:05,679
Speaker 17: is their understanding or belief their belief rather that, Okay,

1991
01:36:05,760 --> 01:36:08,320
Speaker 17: you could sit Siaka maybe in this game, but then

1992
01:36:08,360 --> 01:36:11,360
Speaker 17: why wasn't Nemhart out there? Why wasn't Nie Smith out there?

1993
01:36:11,360 --> 01:36:15,200
Speaker 17: Maybe you could have played those guys but rested Siakam.

1994
01:36:15,240 --> 01:36:18,920
Speaker 17: That way, your roster was better fit for fans to

1995
01:36:19,040 --> 01:36:20,439
Speaker 17: watch and things like that.

1996
01:36:20,439 --> 01:36:21,840
Speaker 13: That's at least how I view it.

1997
01:36:22,000 --> 01:36:25,040
Speaker 17: But you're right, I think the CBA is I don't know,

1998
01:36:25,120 --> 01:36:27,519
Speaker 17: six hundred and eighty seven pages last time I love

1999
01:36:28,160 --> 01:36:30,320
Speaker 17: in terms of the betting market, Yeah, I totally agree.

2000
01:36:30,439 --> 01:36:33,000
Speaker 17: I think this is one of those situations where the

2001
01:36:33,120 --> 01:36:39,320
Speaker 17: NBA is in cahoots, not in but they're working with them, right,

2002
01:36:39,400 --> 01:36:41,760
Speaker 17: and so therefore they have to look out for them.

2003
01:36:41,920 --> 01:36:45,400
Speaker 17: It's the same reason, James, we have these thorough detailed

2004
01:36:45,439 --> 01:36:49,120
Speaker 17: injury reports, not once a day, not once an hour anymore,

2005
01:36:49,400 --> 01:36:52,559
Speaker 17: but now every fifteen minutes. And so yes, I think

2006
01:36:52,600 --> 01:36:55,840
Speaker 17: this is a direct result of that. And we've seen some.

2007
01:36:55,880 --> 01:36:57,639
Speaker 13: Of those scandals pop up.

2008
01:36:58,200 --> 01:37:02,320
Speaker 17: The main one has seemingly been kind of John tay

2009
01:37:02,400 --> 01:37:05,559
Speaker 17: Porter right, where you'd play for one two a couple

2010
01:37:05,520 --> 01:37:06,880
Speaker 17: of minutes, and then a lot of.

2011
01:37:06,880 --> 01:37:10,120
Speaker 13: People would hit his under for a situation, and like so.

2012
01:37:10,080 --> 01:37:12,840
Speaker 17: They want the public and the books to be the

2013
01:37:12,880 --> 01:37:15,439
Speaker 17: most informed they possibly can, and so it has the

2014
01:37:15,479 --> 01:37:19,080
Speaker 17: most validity to that. But the moment you take that money,

2015
01:37:19,680 --> 01:37:22,000
Speaker 17: it becomes a difficult situation if you're the league or

2016
01:37:22,000 --> 01:37:22,719
Speaker 17: anybody else.

2017
01:37:23,680 --> 01:37:27,120
Speaker 2: Scott agnes Field aus files where you can find his work.

2018
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Speaker 3: Scott one more on the Pacers.

2019
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Speaker 2: We will see obi top and it sounds like soon

2020
01:37:31,160 --> 01:37:34,240
Speaker 2: he's actually questionable for tonight's game. So maybe as early

2021
01:37:34,280 --> 01:37:36,560
Speaker 2: as tonight. You know, Rick said with us earlier in

2022
01:37:36,600 --> 01:37:38,960
Speaker 2: the week of each Zubots, you know, should play at

2023
01:37:38,960 --> 01:37:41,679
Speaker 2: some point here in the month of March. It seems

2024
01:37:41,720 --> 01:37:45,400
Speaker 2: like from a standing's point of view, they could sprinkle

2025
01:37:45,479 --> 01:37:49,320
Speaker 2: in a win or two. But Scott, if they all

2026
01:37:49,360 --> 01:37:51,040
Speaker 2: of a sudden, you know, get a little bit more

2027
01:37:51,080 --> 01:37:54,280
Speaker 2: full strength, they're not in a comfort zone where all

2028
01:37:54,280 --> 01:37:57,040
Speaker 2: of a sudden they could afford to win three or four,

2029
01:37:57,160 --> 01:38:00,479
Speaker 2: four or five, something along those lines, because that's where

2030
01:38:00,520 --> 01:38:02,800
Speaker 2: the standings could all of a sudden shift odds wise.

2031
01:38:02,880 --> 01:38:06,439
Speaker 13: Right, Yeah, no, that's entirely right. That's why it was.

2032
01:38:06,439 --> 01:38:08,439
Speaker 17: Weird going into All Star Break where they had won

2033
01:38:08,479 --> 01:38:10,519
Speaker 17: a couple games, and more than that, they were on

2034
01:38:10,560 --> 01:38:12,680
Speaker 17: the road where this team had really struggled and I

2035
01:38:12,720 --> 01:38:16,280
Speaker 17: think lost twenty two of its first twenty five games

2036
01:38:16,280 --> 01:38:16,880
Speaker 17: it seemed like.

2037
01:38:16,960 --> 01:38:18,240
Speaker 13: But yeah, for.

2038
01:38:18,240 --> 01:38:22,120
Speaker 17: Them, where they want to be is ultimately being one

2039
01:38:22,160 --> 01:38:26,880
Speaker 17: of those final four spots. And right now you're kind

2040
01:38:26,880 --> 01:38:29,000
Speaker 17: of there's a three man race at the bottom of

2041
01:38:29,000 --> 01:38:33,880
Speaker 17: the Eastern Conference with Washington and with Brooklyn obviously right

2042
01:38:33,920 --> 01:38:35,000
Speaker 17: there on the other side.

2043
01:38:35,040 --> 01:38:38,040
Speaker 13: The Sacramento Kings have been leading the.

2044
01:38:38,000 --> 01:38:40,960
Speaker 17: Way on that other side, and so yeah, I think

2045
01:38:41,080 --> 01:38:43,799
Speaker 17: they'll get some wins now and then, but I think

2046
01:38:44,000 --> 01:38:48,599
Speaker 17: there's also a great incentive here and that's what it

2047
01:38:48,600 --> 01:38:52,799
Speaker 17: comes down to for the Pacers to maximize this window

2048
01:38:52,880 --> 01:38:55,400
Speaker 17: as they go into it next season where they have

2049
01:38:55,520 --> 01:38:57,519
Speaker 17: those championship aspirations once again.

2050
01:38:58,720 --> 01:39:00,320
Speaker 3: Last one, Scott, before we let you go.

2051
01:39:01,080 --> 01:39:04,439
Speaker 4: The Fever season opener is scheduled for May ninth at

2052
01:39:04,479 --> 01:39:07,719
Speaker 4: home against the Dallas Wings. Page backers Kaitlyn Clark must

2053
01:39:07,760 --> 01:39:10,719
Speaker 4: see TV, Yeah, but what we see a game? Where

2054
01:39:10,720 --> 01:39:15,400
Speaker 4: do things stand as far as CBA negotiations To your knowledge.

2055
01:39:15,240 --> 01:39:18,719
Speaker 17: Yeah, it seems like they're making a little progress James.

2056
01:39:18,760 --> 01:39:21,720
Speaker 17: But we're not at significant steps. And what concerns me

2057
01:39:21,840 --> 01:39:25,719
Speaker 17: here is, let's say today, just for hypothetical reasons, today

2058
01:39:25,720 --> 01:39:28,120
Speaker 17: they make big progress. All right, Well, you have lawyers

2059
01:39:28,160 --> 01:39:30,160
Speaker 17: that got to talk things over. You're going to have

2060
01:39:30,200 --> 01:39:32,800
Speaker 17: to fly in and probably meet each other to make

2061
01:39:32,800 --> 01:39:35,240
Speaker 17: sure everything you talked about on the phone was okay.

2062
01:39:36,000 --> 01:39:38,559
Speaker 17: Then you got to go through the checklist. And the

2063
01:39:38,560 --> 01:39:41,320
Speaker 17: first thing is you have to make sure those expansion

2064
01:39:41,360 --> 01:39:43,680
Speaker 17: teams have players right now they have zero. And then

2065
01:39:43,720 --> 01:39:46,599
Speaker 17: it gets down to free agency where more than ninety

2066
01:39:46,600 --> 01:39:48,479
Speaker 17: percent of the league is free agents. Then you got

2067
01:39:48,479 --> 01:39:52,320
Speaker 17: the WNBA Draft, and so to me, it's these next

2068
01:39:52,360 --> 01:39:55,120
Speaker 17: two weeks are absolutely pivotal because if not, I mean,

2069
01:39:55,520 --> 01:39:57,640
Speaker 17: they're going to be too far behind schedule to the

2070
01:39:57,640 --> 01:39:59,720
Speaker 17: point where you can have a season, but it would

2071
01:39:59,720 --> 01:40:02,040
Speaker 17: certain impact the start of training camp.

2072
01:40:02,160 --> 01:40:04,040
Speaker 13: And then, as you mentioned opening.

2073
01:40:03,760 --> 01:40:07,800
Speaker 2: Night scout, remind us again, schedule wise, I mean they

2074
01:40:07,960 --> 01:40:13,080
Speaker 2: bunch draft, free agency, training camp very close together, do

2075
01:40:13,160 --> 01:40:13,400
Speaker 2: they not?

2076
01:40:14,960 --> 01:40:18,800
Speaker 17: No, normally the draft is a few days after the

2077
01:40:18,880 --> 01:40:22,960
Speaker 17: NCAA Final four, right, So that's it's like April fifteenth,

2078
01:40:23,439 --> 01:40:27,719
Speaker 17: April tenth or whatever. For the draft expansion. They normally

2079
01:40:27,840 --> 01:40:30,920
Speaker 17: hold in December. Free agency is usually I want to say,

2080
01:40:31,000 --> 01:40:35,479
Speaker 17: late January, early February, so it's kind of one couple months,

2081
01:40:35,520 --> 01:40:38,360
Speaker 17: one couple months, and so just the draft.

2082
01:40:38,360 --> 01:40:41,120
Speaker 2: That's really close to the start of the new league year, right,

2083
01:40:41,240 --> 01:40:42,719
Speaker 2: that's the exactly start of training camp.

2084
01:40:43,040 --> 01:40:45,960
Speaker 13: It's right after the season for the NCAA.

2085
01:40:46,880 --> 01:40:47,720
Speaker 3: Got it, got it?

2086
01:40:47,760 --> 01:40:50,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, it should be very interesting as it feels like

2087
01:40:50,160 --> 01:40:52,920
Speaker 2: it's kind of reaching a point where bleep or get

2088
01:40:52,960 --> 01:40:55,920
Speaker 2: off the old pot Scott Agnes field House files where

2089
01:40:55,920 --> 01:40:58,960
Speaker 2: you can find his work. Scott as always, Thank you, sir, Yep,

2090
01:40:59,040 --> 01:41:01,920
Speaker 2: you got thanks guys, Scott Agnes right there, pay list

2091
01:41:01,920 --> 01:41:04,880
Speaker 2: sickers hotline reminder for tomorrow. Field Yates from ESPN going

2092
01:41:04,920 --> 01:41:08,360
Speaker 2: to join us live here at eight o'clock mark.

2093
01:41:08,400 --> 01:41:11,559
Speaker 3: We've got Chris call from visit India. Is that correct? Correct?

2094
01:41:11,600 --> 01:41:13,160
Speaker 5: Yep, He's gonna jump on as well.

2095
01:41:13,600 --> 01:41:17,479
Speaker 2: A massive, massive voice in helping the combine stay here,

2096
01:41:17,520 --> 01:41:19,280
Speaker 2: and I believe right now he's got a little bit

2097
01:41:19,280 --> 01:41:22,639
Speaker 2: of an NFL draft focus on his docket as well,

2098
01:41:22,760 --> 01:41:26,120
Speaker 2: trying to potentially get that for the city of Indianapolis.

2099
01:41:26,160 --> 01:41:26,680
Speaker 3: As we've seen the.

2100
01:41:26,720 --> 01:41:29,200
Speaker 2: Rotation, where are we already Pittsburgh this year, Green Bay

2101
01:41:29,240 --> 01:41:29,639
Speaker 2: this year.

2102
01:41:29,720 --> 01:41:31,320
Speaker 3: I believe it's Green Bay.

2103
01:41:31,560 --> 01:41:33,439
Speaker 5: Or did they just happy we're back at Green Bay

2104
01:41:33,479 --> 01:41:34,120
Speaker 5: for the draft?

2105
01:41:34,240 --> 01:41:34,920
Speaker 3: No, it can't be.

2106
01:41:36,520 --> 01:41:41,559
Speaker 2: Or was that just me think Bay?

2107
01:41:44,280 --> 01:41:46,760
Speaker 3: I can hear that vitriol. Those are fighting words. That

2108
01:41:46,920 --> 01:41:48,920
Speaker 3: was he was feisty. If he could reach through his head,

2109
01:41:48,960 --> 01:41:49,200
Speaker 3: said he.

2110
01:41:49,840 --> 01:41:52,240
Speaker 5: That was disgusting by Kevin Bowen. That made me angry.

2111
01:41:52,720 --> 01:41:53,880
Speaker 3: Well, it is, so where have we been?

2112
01:41:53,960 --> 01:42:01,919
Speaker 2: We've been Chicago, Detroit at some point, Detroit, Green Yes, Tennessee.

2113
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Speaker 2: Of course, that's when Jake was all up in arms

2114
01:42:03,680 --> 01:42:06,080
Speaker 2: about the crowd in Nashville.

2115
01:42:06,960 --> 01:42:09,200
Speaker 5: We've done Dallas and m I missing did we know?

2116
01:42:09,280 --> 01:42:09,640
Speaker 2: Maybe not.

2117
01:42:09,920 --> 01:42:10,800
Speaker 5: I'm trying to think it.

2118
01:42:10,800 --> 01:42:13,759
Speaker 2: Seems like we've gone to kind of like the middle market. Yeah, teams,

2119
01:42:14,000 --> 01:42:15,640
Speaker 2: you know, the teams that don't host super Bowls, Like, yes,

2120
01:42:16,000 --> 01:42:18,920
Speaker 2: the Super Bowls. Here's your scraps, you better like it. Yeah,

2121
01:42:18,960 --> 01:42:21,439
Speaker 2: that's probably the best way to put it. James, you

2122
01:42:21,520 --> 01:42:24,120
Speaker 2: asked Chris Balier, saying about Nick Cross not a name

2123
01:42:24,160 --> 01:42:25,960
Speaker 2: we've talked about a ton. I think if you are

2124
01:42:25,960 --> 01:42:29,120
Speaker 2: looking at the accomplished free agents of the Colts, Daniel

2125
01:42:29,160 --> 01:42:32,240
Speaker 2: Jones and Alec Pierce obviously, are near the top list.

2126
01:42:32,240 --> 01:42:35,200
Speaker 2: Brayden Smith a very accomplished free agent as well at

2127
01:42:35,280 --> 01:42:38,080
Speaker 2: right tackle. But Nick Cross, they drafted him at twenty

2128
01:42:38,120 --> 01:42:40,720
Speaker 2: years old. The thought was it's going to take a

2129
01:42:40,800 --> 01:42:42,839
Speaker 2: year or two and then hopefully he'll be an ascending

2130
01:42:42,880 --> 01:42:44,880
Speaker 2: player by the end of his rookie contract.

2131
01:42:45,240 --> 01:42:46,559
Speaker 3: I would say, all that's checked out.

2132
01:42:46,680 --> 01:42:49,439
Speaker 2: Yes, he had a couple growing pains early, actually lost

2133
01:42:49,479 --> 01:42:52,679
Speaker 2: his starting job there whatever, that was his second season,

2134
01:42:53,000 --> 01:42:55,040
Speaker 2: and I thought he had a really nice contract year.

2135
01:42:55,160 --> 01:42:57,800
Speaker 2: Do you see Nick Cross wearing a Colts uniform next year?

2136
01:42:58,600 --> 01:43:02,519
Speaker 4: I do not, But I would say that's because he

2137
01:43:02,600 --> 01:43:05,200
Speaker 4: might have priced himself out of what they can afford,

2138
01:43:05,240 --> 01:43:08,479
Speaker 4: considering the other team needs and they've already invested a

2139
01:43:08,479 --> 01:43:11,840
Speaker 4: ton of money into the secondary as it is. And

2140
01:43:11,880 --> 01:43:15,200
Speaker 4: I look at it like this man, Nick Cross started

2141
01:43:15,439 --> 01:43:18,400
Speaker 4: four games his first two years, made the move full

2142
01:43:18,439 --> 01:43:19,479
Speaker 4: time strong safety.

2143
01:43:19,600 --> 01:43:20,639
Speaker 3: He's thrived there.

2144
01:43:21,320 --> 01:43:24,080
Speaker 4: And when I heard from Chris Ballard and he uses

2145
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Speaker 4: the pie example, and within that he says, well, someone

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01:43:29,280 --> 01:43:30,599
Speaker 4: might be willing to give you.

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Speaker 3: A bigger piece of the pie.

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Speaker 4: My interpretation was the only way he's back here is

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Speaker 4: if he's on a very team friendly contract and to

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Speaker 4: be Frank, Nick Cross and any free agent we're talking about.

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01:43:42,840 --> 01:43:44,639
Speaker 3: You're in a sport that's very finite.

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01:43:45,120 --> 01:43:47,720
Speaker 4: Your fortunes can change tomorrow if you play a game

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01:43:47,760 --> 01:43:49,840
Speaker 4: and break your leg or whatever. So when you have

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01:43:49,880 --> 01:43:52,760
Speaker 4: a chance to get paid, especially at his position, you

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01:43:53,000 --> 01:43:55,080
Speaker 4: in my mind, have to take it. So I think

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01:43:55,120 --> 01:43:58,720
Speaker 4: that he'll be playing elsewhere, and Chris Ballard kind of

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01:43:58,760 --> 01:44:02,000
Speaker 4: conceded that if that is the case, then we've both

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01:44:02,040 --> 01:44:04,599
Speaker 4: done our job. We have developed you, you handle your

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Speaker 4: business on the field, and you've earned.

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Speaker 3: The rights to go get paid somewhere else. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: A couple of things coming to mind for me. One,

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01:44:11,600 --> 01:44:15,960
Speaker 2: the safety market league wide has always been one of

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Speaker 2: I would say the lesser valued positions here in recent years.

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01:44:21,720 --> 01:44:24,200
Speaker 2: I think back to the freegency of Julian Blackman Cult

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Speaker 2: Safety from a few years ago, where he was very

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01:44:27,880 --> 01:44:30,360
Speaker 2: upset with how the safety market looked for him, and

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Speaker 2: he actually came back to Indy in April. I mean

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Speaker 2: he tested the market, testing the market, test the market.

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Speaker 2: Then he's like, wait, is this really what it's going

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Speaker 2: to be out there? So I'm curious that for Nick Cross.

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Speaker 2: But also, you know, when you look league wide, not

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Speaker 2: that Nick Cross is going to command fifteen million a

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01:44:45,360 --> 01:44:48,639
Speaker 2: year or twenty million a year. But you don't find

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Speaker 2: many teams that have two safeties making north of five

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01:44:53,439 --> 01:44:57,320
Speaker 2: million a year. It's just not a position that teams

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Speaker 2: view in that light, and by accounts in a cross

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Speaker 2: would probably garner or contract north of that. And just

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01:45:02,080 --> 01:45:05,599
Speaker 2: to remind everybody, the Colts are already paying cambye them.

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Speaker 2: You know, fifteen million was the deal that they gave

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01:45:08,600 --> 01:45:10,719
Speaker 2: him last year. I think it was what four for sixty?

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01:45:10,840 --> 01:45:12,640
Speaker 2: Was that right for Cam buying them four years and

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01:45:12,680 --> 01:45:16,639
Speaker 2: sixty million for him? So again just remind everybody on dates.

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01:45:16,680 --> 01:45:19,679
Speaker 2: Franchise tag window closes on Tuesday. That means we will

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01:45:19,720 --> 01:45:25,160
Speaker 2: get some answer on Daniel Jones or Alec Pierce by Tuesday,

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01:45:25,640 --> 01:45:29,080
Speaker 2: and then the next date to watch will be two

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01:45:29,160 --> 01:45:33,000
Speaker 2: weeks from yesterday. That's March eleventh, that Wednesday there, that

2187
01:45:33,120 --> 01:45:37,400
Speaker 2: is when the new league year officially begins and the

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01:45:37,400 --> 01:45:40,559
Speaker 2: Colts will obviously have to have contracts done for Jones

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01:45:40,560 --> 01:45:44,400
Speaker 2: and Pierce or else they will officially hit the open market.

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Speaker 2: All right, Mark, let's go ahead and check it out.

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Speaker 6: The voying shutdown drought to you by the Barbosol Horizon

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Speaker 7: Chips, March Stars Year.

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Speaker 11: Tickets and more at how Rising League dot Com slashing.

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Speaker 2: Indeed, all right now, on the other side of the

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Speaker 2: curtain where we are speaking, DiAngelo Ponds is meeting the media.

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Speaker 2: That's what today is about. It is about defensive backs,

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Speaker 2: and it is about well, I guess the front too,

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01:46:19,720 --> 01:46:22,400
Speaker 2: defensive line and linebackers. They'll be working out inside of

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Speaker 2: Lucas Oil Stadium three o'clock on NFL Network Quarterbacks SA.

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01:46:27,560 --> 01:46:30,479
Speaker 5: Matt Taylor tweeting out a video of Ponds saying he

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01:46:30,600 --> 01:46:33,680
Speaker 5: models his game after Kenny Moore and JayR Alexander.

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01:46:34,920 --> 01:46:35,400
Speaker 2: Look at that?

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01:46:35,760 --> 01:46:36,320
Speaker 3: Look at that?

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01:46:36,560 --> 01:46:39,400
Speaker 2: So yes, Stangel Pond's over there chatting at the media

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01:46:39,520 --> 01:46:43,160
Speaker 2: right now and again pretty much how the schedule work is,

2208
01:46:43,200 --> 01:46:45,840
Speaker 2: you talk to the media the day before you work out.

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01:46:45,880 --> 01:46:49,080
Speaker 2: To Fernando Mendoza, for example, albeit he's not gonna throw,

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01:46:49,439 --> 01:46:51,160
Speaker 2: he will talk to the media tomorrow morning. I believe

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01:46:51,200 --> 01:46:54,760
Speaker 2: he's eight am. And then quarterbacks will throw coming up

2212
01:46:54,840 --> 01:46:58,280
Speaker 2: on Saturday. I think that's one o'clock inside of Lucas

2213
01:46:58,400 --> 01:47:01,360
Speaker 2: Oil Stadium. All right tonight, just down on the road,

2214
01:47:01,439 --> 01:47:04,960
Speaker 2: it'll be the Pacers, It'll be the Charlotte Hornets, and

2215
01:47:05,000 --> 01:47:07,960
Speaker 2: that will be a seven o'clock tip. Again. The Pacers

2216
01:47:07,960 --> 01:47:10,599
Speaker 2: have lost four straight coming out of the All Star Break,

2217
01:47:10,600 --> 01:47:13,080
Speaker 2: but it looks like James we could see Obi Topping

2218
01:47:13,200 --> 01:47:16,720
Speaker 2: as early as tonight. He has listened as questionable on

2219
01:47:16,760 --> 01:47:20,439
Speaker 2: the injury report. He has missed what is it four

2220
01:47:20,479 --> 01:47:23,760
Speaker 2: months with that foot injury, but you know, February was

2221
01:47:23,800 --> 01:47:25,759
Speaker 2: always a thought where he could make his return.

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01:47:25,920 --> 01:47:27,160
Speaker 3: So you know, we are.

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01:47:27,080 --> 01:47:29,840
Speaker 2: Seeing some teams shut down guys that are dealing with

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01:47:29,920 --> 01:47:33,759
Speaker 2: lengthy injuries. The Pacers are not doing that with Obi Topping,

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01:47:34,000 --> 01:47:37,160
Speaker 2: so uh, you know, tonight could see Topping in a

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01:47:37,200 --> 01:47:40,200
Speaker 2: couple of weeks. You could see if heatsa Zubats You're

2227
01:47:40,240 --> 01:47:42,040
Speaker 2: here to close out the season. You know, we'll see

2228
01:47:42,080 --> 01:47:44,479
Speaker 2: how everything plays out for Pascal Siakam and his wrist,

2229
01:47:44,520 --> 01:47:48,040
Speaker 2: and Andrew Nemhard and Aaron E. Smith. But Pacers might

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01:47:48,120 --> 01:47:50,200
Speaker 2: actually be playing some dudes in the month of March.

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01:47:50,360 --> 01:47:52,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm looking at it right here. Obi Topping has

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01:47:52,760 --> 01:47:55,120
Speaker 4: not played since October twenty sixth. He's only played in

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01:47:55,160 --> 01:47:58,200
Speaker 4: three games all year, so glad he's on the men

2234
01:47:58,400 --> 01:48:00,880
Speaker 4: but like you said, on the means you probably get

2235
01:48:00,920 --> 01:48:03,040
Speaker 4: a little bit better, and better means that you could

2236
01:48:03,040 --> 01:48:05,879
Speaker 4: affect your draft positioning in the lottery.

2237
01:48:06,040 --> 01:48:08,639
Speaker 3: So how much better are you trying to get? We'll see.

2238
01:48:09,439 --> 01:48:12,880
Speaker 2: So again, that will be seven o'clock tonight, West Coast

2239
01:48:12,880 --> 01:48:15,040
Speaker 2: trip coming up next week. I believe it Benedict matherin

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Speaker 2: appearance against the Pacers coming up next week if memory

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01:48:18,000 --> 01:48:21,080
Speaker 2: serves on that schedule, and Benne mcmathers had a really

2242
01:48:21,120 --> 01:48:24,120
Speaker 2: nice start to his clippers ten year. All right, speaking

2243
01:48:24,200 --> 01:48:26,320
Speaker 2: of tonight, it is eight o'clock. It is inside of

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01:48:26,360 --> 01:48:29,600
Speaker 2: Mackie Arena, a white out Purdue in Michigan State. The

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01:48:29,640 --> 01:48:32,040
Speaker 2: Boilers favored right around six and a half, seven and

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01:48:32,080 --> 01:48:34,400
Speaker 2: a half. I have seen for this game, and James,

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01:48:34,800 --> 01:48:37,040
Speaker 2: as we've talked about all morning long, this is a great,

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01:48:37,080 --> 01:48:40,680
Speaker 2: great point guard matchup between Braden Smith and Jeremy Fears.

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01:48:41,120 --> 01:48:41,320
Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Absolutely, Like I said, very familiar with the Fearce family,

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01:48:44,800 --> 01:48:47,840
Speaker 4: them growing up in a neighboring town from where I

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01:48:47,840 --> 01:48:50,720
Speaker 4: grew up. And so Jeremy fear is Braden Smith. That's

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01:48:50,720 --> 01:48:52,960
Speaker 4: going to be the matchup on paper that matters. But

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01:48:53,040 --> 01:48:55,840
Speaker 4: also Kevin, I'm very curious to see how Purdue defend

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Speaker 4: a three point line and rebounds against a Michigan State

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Speaker 4: team that is always very coach on her Timezo.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So again this will be eight o'clock tonight. From

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01:49:04,120 --> 01:49:06,240
Speaker 2: a what are you playing for? It is just really

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01:49:06,280 --> 01:49:08,720
Speaker 2: to improve Big Ten seeding and certainly continue to build

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01:49:08,760 --> 01:49:12,040
Speaker 2: an NCAA tournament resume that's already very strong. You look

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01:49:12,040 --> 01:49:14,200
Speaker 2: at the Big Ten standings right now, you've got Michigan

2262
01:49:14,240 --> 01:49:17,120
Speaker 2: of course at the top, and then right behind Michigan

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01:49:17,160 --> 01:49:21,320
Speaker 2: you have four teams with four losses. That would be

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Speaker 2: Michigan State, that would be Purdue, that would be Illinois,

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01:49:25,000 --> 01:49:27,680
Speaker 2: and that would be Nebraska. So you know, one of

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01:49:27,720 --> 01:49:31,519
Speaker 2: those teams it's not gonna get the whatever it is

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01:49:31,520 --> 01:49:33,920
Speaker 2: probably this point it's a triple buy when you look

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01:49:33,920 --> 01:49:36,600
Speaker 2: at what the Big Ten tournament bracket will be. So

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01:49:36,960 --> 01:49:38,800
Speaker 2: that's what kind of is on the line tonight with

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01:49:38,920 --> 01:49:40,400
Speaker 2: Purdue in Michigan State.

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Speaker 3: At eight o'clock on the cock. All right.

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Speaker 2: Last night in Philly, it was a Butler losing to Villanova.

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01:49:49,080 --> 01:49:50,800
Speaker 2: That is a Villanova team that is bound for the

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01:49:50,880 --> 01:49:53,519
Speaker 2: NCAA Tournament. If Butler made a run there early second

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01:49:53,560 --> 01:49:56,240
Speaker 2: half they got it to I think they got it

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01:49:56,240 --> 01:49:59,240
Speaker 2: to as close as one, and then Villanova answered pretty

2277
01:49:59,280 --> 01:50:02,200
Speaker 2: emphatically after that rough shooting night from behind the arc

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01:50:02,280 --> 01:50:05,360
Speaker 2: for Thad Mada's bunch there, and that is no recipe

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01:50:05,840 --> 01:50:08,240
Speaker 2: to try to execute a Big East road win over

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Speaker 2: a tournament team. By the way, speaking of Big East,

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01:50:10,160 --> 01:50:12,240
Speaker 2: did you see what happened to Saint John's last night?

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01:50:12,680 --> 01:50:13,160
Speaker 3: I did?

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01:50:14,080 --> 01:50:16,479
Speaker 4: Was it seventy two to forty I believe a loss

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01:50:16,520 --> 01:50:21,040
Speaker 4: to Yukon, And after the game, coach Rick Battino gave

2285
01:50:21,160 --> 01:50:23,840
Speaker 4: I believe a one minute post game availability.

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01:50:23,960 --> 01:50:26,439
Speaker 3: He basically just said, we got our you know what kicked.

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01:50:26,560 --> 01:50:28,200
Speaker 3: I mean, it's gonna be one of the worst losses

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01:50:28,200 --> 01:50:30,800
Speaker 3: of his career, right absolutely. I mean this is a

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01:50:30,800 --> 01:50:32,120
Speaker 3: Saint John's team. That is good.

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01:50:32,280 --> 01:50:34,840
Speaker 4: I mean this is not you know, just name brand

2291
01:50:34,880 --> 01:50:38,360
Speaker 4: recognition only They're still Saint John's and so he kind

2292
01:50:38,360 --> 01:50:39,840
Speaker 4: of rebuilt that program a little bit.

2293
01:50:40,120 --> 01:50:41,759
Speaker 3: And to see that score was jarring.

2294
01:50:42,640 --> 01:50:46,479
Speaker 2: They missed twenty four straight shots to end the game.

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01:50:47,600 --> 01:50:49,439
Speaker 3: That is wild. That is wild.

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01:50:50,400 --> 01:50:54,479
Speaker 4: You know whatpendy to, I can finally compare myself to

2297
01:50:54,520 --> 01:50:57,639
Speaker 4: a college athlete, baby.

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01:50:56,560 --> 01:50:59,240
Speaker 3: I can do that. At Southport High School on a Sunday.

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01:51:00,240 --> 01:51:04,000
Speaker 2: Points in the second half for the Johnnies all right

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01:51:04,040 --> 01:51:05,880
Speaker 2: coming out this week and hopefully we won't see that

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01:51:05,880 --> 01:51:09,200
Speaker 2: shooting inside of Gamebridgefield hows we got four girls basketball

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01:51:09,200 --> 01:51:11,680
Speaker 2: state finals games locally got Ron Collye in the three

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01:51:11,760 --> 01:51:14,200
Speaker 2: A Game Center Grove and the four A Game Boys

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01:51:14,240 --> 01:51:18,160
Speaker 2: Sectionals will start coming up next week. And also our

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01:51:18,160 --> 01:51:21,040
Speaker 2: first IndyCar race of the year, Cars in the Track

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01:51:21,240 --> 01:51:24,800
Speaker 2: noon on Sunday on Big Fox. Obviously you can hear

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01:51:24,840 --> 01:51:27,360
Speaker 2: that on our airwaves as well as we get things

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01:51:27,400 --> 01:51:30,519
Speaker 2: started in the twenty twenty six seasons. Certainly storylines. How

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01:51:30,560 --> 01:51:32,599
Speaker 2: does Alex flow back up one of the greatest IndyCar

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01:51:32,640 --> 01:51:35,200
Speaker 2: seasons of all time? Where are we out with Tim

2311
01:51:35,240 --> 01:51:37,880
Speaker 2: Team Penske after a horrific year? I guess on and

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01:51:37,920 --> 01:51:40,760
Speaker 2: off the track for them? And will Power moving over

2313
01:51:40,840 --> 01:51:44,599
Speaker 2: to Andretti and how does that go? And where's the

2314
01:51:44,640 --> 01:51:49,439
Speaker 2: fire at for will Power as he leaves Team Penske. There,

2315
01:51:49,479 --> 01:51:52,040
Speaker 2: so some storylines to watch. It's a busy month of

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01:51:52,080 --> 01:51:55,840
Speaker 2: March for IndyCar. They'll go out to Phoenix for a race.

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01:51:55,880 --> 01:51:57,720
Speaker 2: Speaking of our friends right next to us here in

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01:51:57,760 --> 01:52:00,400
Speaker 2: the Dallas area. I believe though we are around as

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01:52:00,439 --> 01:52:03,680
Speaker 2: world in a race in Arlington as well, I think

2320
01:52:03,760 --> 01:52:06,320
Speaker 2: Barber So it's a busy month of March. Kind of

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01:52:06,360 --> 01:52:09,240
Speaker 2: unusual for the indie car season.

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01:52:09,360 --> 01:52:11,519
Speaker 3: All right. Much more from the NFL Combine.

2323
01:52:11,560 --> 01:52:12,840
Speaker 2: On the other side, where are we at From a

2324
01:52:12,840 --> 01:52:15,080
Speaker 2: cult standpoint, We'll hit a couple of different things.

2325
01:52:15,280 --> 01:52:16,519
Speaker 3: Kevin Bow and James Boyd.

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Speaker 2: Thank you on site engineer Cam Blanken Ship and back

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01:52:19,120 --> 01:52:20,679
Speaker 2: in studio, Mark Dyden.

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Speaker 3: This is the fan morning.

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Speaker 8: Shower, pointed fire rips and tis from the NFL Combine

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01:52:28,760 --> 01:52:31,200
Speaker 8: in downtown Indianapolis.

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01:52:31,080 --> 01:52:33,160
Speaker 11: Listening to the show.

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01:52:34,320 --> 01:52:37,680
Speaker 3: Mike Asia and type the fights at and death the

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01:52:37,760 --> 01:52:38,400
Speaker 3: last one of them.

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01:52:38,560 --> 01:52:41,240
Speaker 2: Thanks really starting to pick up here as we are

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01:52:41,720 --> 01:52:44,559
Speaker 2: live on Radio Row at the Convention Center.

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01:52:44,600 --> 01:52:46,440
Speaker 3: It is the NFL Combine.

2337
01:52:46,880 --> 01:52:49,839
Speaker 2: Thank you to Dan Brugler, NFL draft analysts for joining

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01:52:49,920 --> 01:52:54,320
Speaker 2: us earlier. Uh, James, one question we've got here. I

2339
01:52:54,320 --> 01:52:57,360
Speaker 2: think it was a listener Matt maybe texted in. This

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01:52:57,400 --> 01:53:00,160
Speaker 2: has in regards to you know, Chris Ballard's common it's

2341
01:53:00,200 --> 01:53:00,680
Speaker 2: earlier in the week.

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01:53:00,720 --> 01:53:01,200
Speaker 3: We're balloid.

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01:53:01,200 --> 01:53:03,599
Speaker 2: I thought was rather, I don't know, kind of get

2344
01:53:03,640 --> 01:53:05,840
Speaker 2: straight up and like, yeah, good chance, we're gonna trade back,

2345
01:53:06,720 --> 01:53:10,200
Speaker 2: So just remind everybody the Colts don't draft until forty seven. Overall,

2346
01:53:11,080 --> 01:53:13,639
Speaker 2: it sounds like they feel like they'll get a couple

2347
01:53:13,680 --> 01:53:19,160
Speaker 2: of late compensatory picks, but again nothing of note. You know, right,

2348
01:53:19,320 --> 01:53:20,960
Speaker 2: you know those are gonna be probably what round six,

2349
01:53:21,080 --> 01:53:24,400
Speaker 2: round seven picks here, but good chance the Colts will

2350
01:53:24,439 --> 01:53:28,479
Speaker 2: trade back. Matt definitely not a fan of that chamming

2351
01:53:28,560 --> 01:53:30,680
Speaker 2: in here on the text line your thoughts on the

2352
01:53:30,680 --> 01:53:32,200
Speaker 2: trade back here in twenty twenty six.

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01:53:33,880 --> 01:53:37,840
Speaker 4: I agree with Matt to a degree about how frustrating

2354
01:53:37,880 --> 01:53:42,880
Speaker 4: it is to kind of say that and to say

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01:53:42,920 --> 01:53:45,840
Speaker 4: it so confidently when you haven't delivered it. I mean,

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01:53:45,880 --> 01:53:48,519
Speaker 4: we talked about Kevin, and I get I'm taking it

2357
01:53:48,520 --> 01:53:51,160
Speaker 4: to a broader perspective, but like, how much grace have

2358
01:53:51,280 --> 01:53:55,120
Speaker 4: you earned by trading back? How much grace have you

2359
01:53:55,160 --> 01:53:58,240
Speaker 4: earned throughout your tenure for us to trust your methods?

2360
01:53:58,240 --> 01:54:01,679
Speaker 4: And so I think, and maybe it's because she's fresh

2361
01:54:01,720 --> 01:54:03,479
Speaker 4: in my head from the Dame Bruber interview, but just

2362
01:54:03,520 --> 01:54:07,000
Speaker 4: take the best, dude, Like at forty seven, if you

2363
01:54:07,000 --> 01:54:08,599
Speaker 4: think you can get a guy that's gonna help you,

2364
01:54:08,680 --> 01:54:09,160
Speaker 4: I mean.

2365
01:54:10,800 --> 01:54:13,760
Speaker 3: Get them, I mean, is there is there that much.

2366
01:54:15,360 --> 01:54:18,080
Speaker 4: To gain if you go from forty seven to fifty

2367
01:54:18,120 --> 01:54:19,559
Speaker 4: seven to get an.

2368
01:54:19,439 --> 01:54:20,400
Speaker 3: Extra Day three pick.

2369
01:54:21,040 --> 01:54:23,120
Speaker 4: That Day three dude, dude gonna help you get to

2370
01:54:23,160 --> 01:54:24,479
Speaker 4: the playoffs in twenty twenty six.

2371
01:54:24,840 --> 01:54:26,719
Speaker 3: So I understand that frustration for sure.

2372
01:54:27,040 --> 01:54:30,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think there's a time in a rebuild where

2373
01:54:30,400 --> 01:54:33,640
Speaker 2: trading back makes some sense. Yeah, particularly if you're trading

2374
01:54:33,680 --> 01:54:36,080
Speaker 2: back in round one. You know, if you're trading back,

2375
01:54:36,240 --> 01:54:38,240
Speaker 2: you know, go back to that Jets trade the Colts

2376
01:54:38,280 --> 01:54:40,480
Speaker 2: did in twenty eighteen. Yeah, you know, and again that's

2377
01:54:40,480 --> 01:54:43,200
Speaker 2: in the top ten, so obviously you're gonna get a

2378
01:54:43,200 --> 01:54:45,640
Speaker 2: haul there. But you know, like even the year they

2379
01:54:45,720 --> 01:54:48,720
Speaker 2: drafted Michael Pittman Junior and Jonathan Taylor, you know, those

2380
01:54:48,720 --> 01:54:51,560
Speaker 2: were two second round picks. Those were two top half

2381
01:54:51,840 --> 01:54:54,880
Speaker 2: of the second round. You know, to play out the

2382
01:54:54,960 --> 01:54:57,000
Speaker 2: hypothetical you just kind of laid out there, James, if

2383
01:54:57,000 --> 01:54:59,920
Speaker 2: you're trading back in round two this year, you're moving

2384
01:55:00,040 --> 01:55:02,360
Speaker 2: from forty seven to fifty seven if you want to

2385
01:55:02,400 --> 01:55:06,040
Speaker 2: continue down this path, and that means you obviously have.

2386
01:55:06,120 --> 01:55:07,600
Speaker 3: Zero picks in the top fifty.

2387
01:55:08,120 --> 01:55:10,440
Speaker 2: You know, Pittman was what pick thirty four, They were

2388
01:55:10,440 --> 01:55:12,840
Speaker 2: gonna either draft t Higgins or Michael Pittman junior. Higgins

2389
01:55:12,880 --> 01:55:15,640
Speaker 2: went thirty three and Pittman went thirty four, and then

2390
01:55:15,680 --> 01:55:18,120
Speaker 2: they drafted Jonathan Taylor. I think they actually traded up

2391
01:55:18,280 --> 01:55:20,560
Speaker 2: then to get Taylor just a couple spots. I think

2392
01:55:20,600 --> 01:55:23,400
Speaker 2: Taylor was picked like forty one or forty two. Well,

2393
01:55:23,440 --> 01:55:28,120
Speaker 2: I mean that's whatever, twenty some spots differently than where

2394
01:55:28,120 --> 01:55:31,040
Speaker 2: you would be picking here in twenty twenty six. So

2395
01:55:32,040 --> 01:55:35,400
Speaker 2: to me, you're just not really in a position for

2396
01:55:35,640 --> 01:55:39,920
Speaker 2: that as a franchise for that to make a whole

2397
01:55:39,960 --> 01:55:44,200
Speaker 2: lot of sense to me. But you know, again, Ballad

2398
01:55:44,280 --> 01:55:46,800
Speaker 2: was pretty adam at the other day. It wasn't even

2399
01:55:46,840 --> 01:55:48,920
Speaker 2: like in a joking manner. He's like, yeah, good chance,

2400
01:55:48,960 --> 01:55:52,640
Speaker 2: well we'll trade back, you know. Sometimes he's casual tone

2401
01:55:52,720 --> 01:55:54,440
Speaker 2: was different. I mean, he makes a joke every year.

2402
01:55:54,600 --> 01:55:56,120
Speaker 4: I want to keep you guys waiting in here and

2403
01:55:56,160 --> 01:55:57,720
Speaker 4: all of that, and I know you guys are grown

2404
01:55:57,720 --> 01:55:59,240
Speaker 4: in when we traded back, and we'll see how long

2405
01:55:59,240 --> 01:56:04,120
Speaker 4: we can keep you here. But yeah, that was strikingly serious,

2406
01:56:04,720 --> 01:56:06,320
Speaker 4: So we'll see what the future holds.

2407
01:56:07,280 --> 01:56:10,480
Speaker 3: Strikingly serious. It's a really good way to put it. Well,

2408
01:56:10,520 --> 01:56:13,440
Speaker 3: you know, I'm a writer, I like a little alliteration.

2409
01:56:13,080 --> 01:56:15,120
Speaker 2: Here on the radio over now and then again tonight

2410
01:56:15,160 --> 01:56:18,400
Speaker 2: we got Preduda Michigan State eight o'clock inside of Mackie. Obviously,

2411
01:56:18,440 --> 01:56:21,960
Speaker 2: bubble implications non existent in that matchup. I did see

2412
01:56:22,040 --> 01:56:25,720
Speaker 2: Joe Lnardi from ESPN updated as bracketology. This was before

2413
01:56:25,800 --> 01:56:27,520
Speaker 2: last night's games. I think a good amount of bubble

2414
01:56:27,560 --> 01:56:31,240
Speaker 2: teams actually lost last night. But he had Indiana James

2415
01:56:31,320 --> 01:56:36,960
Speaker 2: at team sixty seven. That would be six seven for

2416
01:56:37,440 --> 01:56:43,000
Speaker 2: Indiana and what team they were, obviously that is the

2417
01:56:43,040 --> 01:56:44,960
Speaker 2: second to last team in the field. They'd be going

2418
01:56:45,000 --> 01:56:48,800
Speaker 2: to Dayton again if that were to play out there.

2419
01:56:49,720 --> 01:56:52,120
Speaker 2: One thing to note, he had Ohio State, who got

2420
01:56:52,320 --> 01:56:54,520
Speaker 2: beat pretty handily by Iowa last night on the road.

2421
01:56:54,760 --> 01:56:58,240
Speaker 2: He has Ohio State as just outside of the bubble.

2422
01:56:58,480 --> 01:57:01,920
Speaker 2: If I'm not mistaken, I believe Eve Indiana Ohio State is.

2423
01:57:02,240 --> 01:57:03,800
Speaker 2: I think it might be the final game of the

2424
01:57:03,880 --> 01:57:09,320
Speaker 2: season for the Hoosiers there upcoming next week at Ohio State.

2425
01:57:09,440 --> 01:57:11,520
Speaker 2: So you know, when you play a thirty game college

2426
01:57:11,560 --> 01:57:14,560
Speaker 2: basketball season, you very rarely get, you know, head to

2427
01:57:14,640 --> 01:57:17,840
Speaker 2: head matchups here as big as Notre Dame Miami and

2428
01:57:18,120 --> 01:57:21,400
Speaker 2: college football for example this year. But that game. Yeah,

2429
01:57:21,400 --> 01:57:23,800
Speaker 2: that's next Saturdays. I'm looking at my schedule right here,

2430
01:57:24,240 --> 01:57:28,240
Speaker 2: Indiana at Ohio State five thirty. That could mean a

2431
01:57:28,440 --> 01:57:33,440
Speaker 2: ton for resume, bubble, all of it.

2432
01:57:34,200 --> 01:57:37,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think with the Big Ten tournament right after that,

2433
01:57:37,960 --> 01:57:40,200
Speaker 4: you can help yourself out some more. But it's kind

2434
01:57:40,200 --> 01:57:42,080
Speaker 4: of like a winning in type of game, Kevin, when

2435
01:57:42,120 --> 01:57:45,840
Speaker 4: I look at it right now, both teams resumes. So

2436
01:57:46,240 --> 01:57:49,840
Speaker 4: also on top of that, are we gonna see more

2437
01:57:50,120 --> 01:57:51,920
Speaker 4: from just the others?

2438
01:57:52,440 --> 01:57:55,520
Speaker 3: I think I trust Lamar Wilkerson, Nick Dorn. Can you

2439
01:57:55,560 --> 01:57:57,000
Speaker 3: find the shooting strung man he's been?

2440
01:57:57,560 --> 01:57:59,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, And honestly, when they were rolling, they kind of

2441
01:57:59,760 --> 01:58:00,640
Speaker 4: found a rhythm.

2442
01:58:00,760 --> 01:58:02,920
Speaker 3: It's because he was a difference maker. So can he

2443
01:58:03,080 --> 01:58:04,560
Speaker 3: just really get.

2444
01:58:04,360 --> 01:58:06,880
Speaker 4: Going because it's not just that he's not where he

2445
01:58:07,000 --> 01:58:08,280
Speaker 4: was in a shoot he would aways going to come

2446
01:58:08,320 --> 01:58:08,920
Speaker 4: back down to earth.

2447
01:58:09,200 --> 01:58:11,360
Speaker 3: But now Kevin, it's like, boy, he is ice ice.

2448
01:58:11,200 --> 01:58:13,120
Speaker 2: Cold, dude. There's some times where he will get the

2449
01:58:13,160 --> 01:58:14,480
Speaker 2: ball in a game and I'm like, oh, I kind

2450
01:58:14,480 --> 01:58:16,800
Speaker 2: of forgot he's on the team. Mike, he's been that

2451
01:58:16,960 --> 01:58:19,160
Speaker 2: Mia here over the last few games. One thing to

2452
01:58:19,240 --> 01:58:23,040
Speaker 2: note about Sunday again, they perdue Michigan State tonight Sunday.

2453
01:58:23,080 --> 01:58:27,160
Speaker 2: From a local standpoint, you'll get back to back Perdue

2454
01:58:27,280 --> 01:58:31,880
Speaker 2: Indiana on CBS uh SO Sunday afternoon, one thirty. It's

2455
01:58:31,960 --> 01:58:35,960
Speaker 2: Perdue at Ohio State. IU fans will want to be

2456
01:58:36,000 --> 01:58:38,000
Speaker 2: cheering for the Boilers in more ways than one, as

2457
01:58:38,040 --> 01:58:40,440
Speaker 2: crazy as that sounds. One it's your best one of

2458
01:58:40,440 --> 01:58:42,600
Speaker 2: the season, and two it's Purdue against a bubble team.

2459
01:58:43,040 --> 01:58:46,360
Speaker 2: And then IU will have just an absolutely massive one

2460
01:58:47,200 --> 01:58:50,400
Speaker 2: for their resume. They'll get Michigan State inside of their

2461
01:58:50,440 --> 01:58:54,440
Speaker 2: own building. That's three forty five on cbs SO, Michigan

2462
01:58:54,440 --> 01:59:00,240
Speaker 2: State getting Mackie and getting assembly haul Here this week again,

2463
01:59:00,320 --> 01:59:02,480
Speaker 2: we are live here at the NFL Combine. Currently defensive

2464
01:59:02,480 --> 01:59:05,920
Speaker 2: backs chatting with the media. We'll have workouts began this

2465
01:59:05,960 --> 01:59:09,840
Speaker 2: afternoon linebackers and defensive line. I do want to go

2466
01:59:09,880 --> 01:59:12,280
Speaker 2: back to the Dane Brugler conversation, James, and feel free

2467
01:59:12,280 --> 01:59:15,200
Speaker 2: to chime into anything that you thought stood out. But

2468
01:59:15,480 --> 01:59:18,960
Speaker 2: you know, when you asked him specifically about the Colts

2469
01:59:19,080 --> 01:59:22,320
Speaker 2: in this draft class, you know when he reiterated just

2470
01:59:22,360 --> 01:59:25,760
Speaker 2: the depth at pass rusher and linebacker. I do think

2471
01:59:25,800 --> 01:59:29,960
Speaker 2: that's a really positive takeaway for Colts fans in regards

2472
01:59:30,040 --> 01:59:34,160
Speaker 2: to this draft class married with the needs that you have.

2473
01:59:34,400 --> 01:59:36,360
Speaker 2: First off, you need to rely on depth. You need

2474
01:59:36,400 --> 01:59:39,080
Speaker 2: the guts of the draft class, if you will, when

2475
01:59:39,120 --> 01:59:41,440
Speaker 2: you're not picking until forty seven and maybe even later

2476
01:59:41,680 --> 01:59:43,560
Speaker 2: if we want to get back into this trade back debate.

2477
01:59:44,000 --> 01:59:45,800
Speaker 3: Don't you put that out here?

2478
01:59:45,840 --> 01:59:48,520
Speaker 2: Hey, I'm not the one that said I'm not the

2479
01:59:48,560 --> 01:59:51,560
Speaker 2: one that said it out loud, So that aspect I

2480
01:59:51,600 --> 01:59:54,320
Speaker 2: think is appealing. And really I can't recall in many

2481
01:59:54,400 --> 01:59:59,520
Speaker 2: recent drafts, James where we have had legit depth at

2482
01:59:59,560 --> 02:00:03,280
Speaker 2: pass usher and linebacker, and it sounds like we've got

2483
02:00:03,480 --> 02:00:05,520
Speaker 2: that this year, which again I think that's need one and.

2484
02:00:05,560 --> 02:00:07,320
Speaker 3: Need two for the Colts absolutely.

2485
02:00:07,400 --> 02:00:10,120
Speaker 4: I mean, after that conversation we had with Ballard yesterday

2486
02:00:10,120 --> 02:00:13,520
Speaker 4: about the future of Zaire Franklin, it seems like that

2487
02:00:13,640 --> 02:00:16,400
Speaker 4: door is perhaps more open to him leaving than it

2488
02:00:16,520 --> 02:00:19,120
Speaker 4: was ever before. So if that is the case, and

2489
02:00:19,160 --> 02:00:21,600
Speaker 4: with Jermaine and Pratt also being a number such a

2490
02:00:21,640 --> 02:00:25,040
Speaker 4: free agent coming up, you need a linebacker and I

2491
02:00:25,040 --> 02:00:27,080
Speaker 4: would imagine that you could be looking at one or

2492
02:00:27,200 --> 02:00:30,760
Speaker 4: two new ones starting in Leuinermo's defense for twenty twenty six.

2493
02:00:31,000 --> 02:00:32,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll see about Aiden Fisher. I know some people

2494
02:00:32,880 --> 02:00:35,960
Speaker 2: have asked about him. You know, probably day three for

2495
02:00:36,040 --> 02:00:39,760
Speaker 2: the IU linebacker again. Linebacker's D line will be working

2496
02:00:39,800 --> 02:00:44,120
Speaker 2: out coming up later today. Mark, are you coming over

2497
02:00:44,120 --> 02:00:45,880
Speaker 2: here for the combine at all? I know you usually

2498
02:00:45,920 --> 02:00:46,920
Speaker 2: try to venture over here.

2499
02:00:47,120 --> 02:00:48,640
Speaker 5: I think I'm heading over after the show.

2500
02:00:49,400 --> 02:00:52,080
Speaker 3: Look at that's you got your eyes peeled on? Anything

2501
02:00:52,080 --> 02:00:52,760
Speaker 3: in particular?

2502
02:00:53,680 --> 02:00:56,560
Speaker 5: How many Ham and Bear shirts I can find? And

2503
02:00:56,600 --> 02:00:59,440
Speaker 5: apparently there's some packers like urinary cakes.

2504
02:00:59,440 --> 02:01:02,800
Speaker 3: Have you seen the I have seen the wait wait.

2505
02:01:04,480 --> 02:01:07,880
Speaker 5: Start over, okay, because people are obviously people know my

2506
02:01:08,000 --> 02:01:11,200
Speaker 5: hatred for the Green Bay Packers. They suck, but they're saying,

2507
02:01:11,240 --> 02:01:14,080
Speaker 5: have you noticed around the combine and restaurants and stuff

2508
02:01:14,520 --> 02:01:18,760
Speaker 5: there are Green Bay Packers themed like urinal like whatever

2509
02:01:18,760 --> 02:01:20,920
Speaker 5: you want to call them, like the plastic things going

2510
02:01:20,920 --> 02:01:23,839
Speaker 5: to bomb the ERL the packers logo yellow and everything

2511
02:01:23,880 --> 02:01:24,160
Speaker 5: like that.

2512
02:01:24,240 --> 02:01:26,480
Speaker 13: Yeah, so I'm confused.

2513
02:01:26,520 --> 02:01:29,680
Speaker 5: I don't understand what they're doing here, but uh yeah,

2514
02:01:29,800 --> 02:01:32,120
Speaker 5: I need to seek one of these outs.

2515
02:01:32,400 --> 02:01:37,360
Speaker 2: Well I'm no FBI investigator, but I think we take

2516
02:01:37,360 --> 02:01:40,040
Speaker 2: the ski mask off of some of these uh hidden

2517
02:01:40,080 --> 02:01:42,400
Speaker 2: cameras in the convention center. I think you might see one,

2518
02:01:42,440 --> 02:01:44,520
Speaker 2: Mark Dychdon how about him playing the card of I'm

2519
02:01:44,560 --> 02:01:45,880
Speaker 2: not familiar with this.

2520
02:01:46,120 --> 02:01:48,000
Speaker 5: Not familiar with it. I don't know how they got there.

2521
02:01:48,000 --> 02:01:49,760
Speaker 5: I don't know who put him there, but I would

2522
02:01:49,760 --> 02:01:50,880
Speaker 5: like to find one.

2523
02:01:51,040 --> 02:01:53,160
Speaker 3: Actually, I'll be home late tonight. I have to say.

2524
02:01:53,200 --> 02:01:55,320
Speaker 3: We're about to see some some really grainy footage.

2525
02:01:55,440 --> 02:01:58,720
Speaker 2: You have a little extra curricular that needs to be done.

2526
02:01:59,040 --> 02:02:00,880
Speaker 2: The deed needs to be done, and I'm the man

2527
02:02:01,000 --> 02:02:01,520
Speaker 2: tasked for.

2528
02:02:01,520 --> 02:02:03,680
Speaker 5: It, Ashley. That morning coffee, I got to make a

2529
02:02:03,720 --> 02:02:04,440
Speaker 5: stop real quick.

2530
02:02:06,080 --> 02:02:09,280
Speaker 2: Now you've specifically trying to find these urinals to make

2531
02:02:09,320 --> 02:02:11,120
Speaker 2: sure your urine is hitting them.

2532
02:02:11,040 --> 02:02:12,480
Speaker 5: Just trying to figure out where they came from. I

2533
02:02:12,560 --> 02:02:14,720
Speaker 5: might have to put like staff to stand outside the door,

2534
02:02:14,800 --> 02:02:16,120
Speaker 5: like do you know who did this? Where were you

2535
02:02:16,160 --> 02:02:17,680
Speaker 5: on the night of, you know, Monday night?

2536
02:02:17,760 --> 02:02:20,440
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, could you imagine these will be on

2537
02:02:20,480 --> 02:02:23,840
Speaker 2: the dyked in household bathrooms?

2538
02:02:23,840 --> 02:02:24,000
Speaker 3: Here?

2539
02:02:24,640 --> 02:02:29,040
Speaker 2: Mark, I it sounds like I'm gonna be getting this delivery.

2540
02:02:29,840 --> 02:02:32,360
Speaker 2: I just got the email between ninety five am and

2541
02:02:32,400 --> 02:02:35,400
Speaker 2: one forty five pm. The Ham and Bears shirts and

2542
02:02:35,440 --> 02:02:39,080
Speaker 2: we're talking Dicka sweaters here, Excel for me large for

2543
02:02:39,160 --> 02:02:41,160
Speaker 2: you will be delivered to the bow and household, and

2544
02:02:41,240 --> 02:02:45,400
Speaker 2: this is today, Thursday, February twenty sixth.

2545
02:02:45,360 --> 02:02:48,120
Speaker 5: Okay, I will stop by with the seven layered dip

2546
02:02:48,160 --> 02:02:49,120
Speaker 5: and pick up the shirt.

2547
02:02:49,880 --> 02:02:51,840
Speaker 2: Well if you need the Daisy brand, the French onion,

2548
02:02:51,880 --> 02:02:55,000
Speaker 2: the ranch dip. Excellent. I've got to rock this tomorrow,

2549
02:02:55,080 --> 02:02:57,360
Speaker 2: right is that? Can I rock that tomorrow? Are the

2550
02:02:57,400 --> 02:02:58,240
Speaker 2: Bears here, James?

2551
02:02:58,320 --> 02:02:58,840
Speaker 5: Oh, they're here.

2552
02:02:58,880 --> 02:03:01,960
Speaker 3: Of course they're here. We are next to Fox Bus.

2553
02:03:01,960 --> 02:03:02,480
Speaker 3: Are you kidding?

2554
02:03:02,520 --> 02:03:05,440
Speaker 5: There's like four Chicago things out there.

2555
02:03:05,480 --> 02:03:08,200
Speaker 4: Go ahead and say the Athletic has like three people

2556
02:03:08,320 --> 02:03:11,280
Speaker 4: right about the Bears and our own establishment, and they're continue.

2557
02:03:11,320 --> 02:03:12,480
Speaker 2: But as we get later in the week, it does

2558
02:03:12,480 --> 02:03:14,520
Speaker 2: start to clear out a little bit, like that is

2559
02:03:14,560 --> 02:03:18,880
Speaker 2: a three hour drive some of these teams. Mark, do

2560
02:03:18,880 --> 02:03:19,960
Speaker 2: you guys have a first round pick?

2561
02:03:20,360 --> 02:03:22,440
Speaker 5: Yes, I believe twenty fifth.

2562
02:03:25,360 --> 02:03:27,080
Speaker 2: Gosh, I forgot the Bears had a good season.

2563
02:03:28,560 --> 02:03:30,040
Speaker 3: Those are fighting words, mark.

2564
02:03:31,480 --> 02:03:31,520
Speaker 17: It.

2565
02:03:32,440 --> 02:03:34,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, drops off that sweater you can black his eye.

2566
02:03:35,640 --> 02:03:37,800
Speaker 5: Yeah, I believe the twenty fifth overall pick. And we'll

2567
02:03:37,800 --> 02:03:39,000
Speaker 5: see if they hang on to it, because I know

2568
02:03:39,000 --> 02:03:41,680
Speaker 5: there's some rumors are shaken that they could move that pick.

2569
02:03:42,800 --> 02:03:44,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, now that you say that, I think I saw

2570
02:03:44,280 --> 02:03:46,600
Speaker 2: a mock draft that had them taking Dylan thetam in

2571
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Speaker 2: the Westfield safety.

2572
02:03:48,320 --> 02:03:50,440
Speaker 3: I saw that as well, Yeah, seeing him go a

2573
02:03:50,480 --> 02:03:51,080
Speaker 3: little bit higher.

2574
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Speaker 2: So those are some of the local combos that we

2575
02:03:53,240 --> 02:03:56,640
Speaker 2: chatted with Dane Brugler earlier in the show.

2576
02:03:56,680 --> 02:03:57,640
Speaker 3: We'll recap that.

2577
02:03:57,720 --> 02:03:59,720
Speaker 2: We'll get you set for a busy day here at

2578
02:03:59,720 --> 02:04:01,640
Speaker 2: the bench and centered over at Loukas Whole Stadium in

2579
02:04:01,640 --> 02:04:04,080
Speaker 2: a busy night hoops as well. It's the Fan Morning

2580
02:04:04,120 --> 02:04:07,200
Speaker 2: Show one final time here live from the convention.

2581
02:04:14,920 --> 02:04:19,600
Speaker 6: Live from the NFL combine named downtown Indianapolis. You're listening

2582
02:04:19,680 --> 02:04:21,160
Speaker 6: to the Fan Morning Show.

2583
02:04:27,320 --> 02:04:28,720
Speaker 11: So I go to body.

2584
02:04:29,960 --> 02:04:32,440
Speaker 4: This is what Mark is playing when he's rolling around

2585
02:04:32,480 --> 02:04:34,400
Speaker 4: looking for the next year, and we'll throw one of

2586
02:04:34,400 --> 02:04:36,280
Speaker 4: those Green Bay things in.

2587
02:04:36,480 --> 02:04:37,160
Speaker 3: I'll tell you what.

2588
02:04:37,320 --> 02:04:42,320
Speaker 2: I just had a little urine exit the body of

2589
02:04:42,440 --> 02:04:44,880
Speaker 2: myself and Mark. I didn't see anything in there. Are

2590
02:04:44,960 --> 02:04:46,120
Speaker 2: you Are you slacking?

2591
02:04:46,360 --> 02:04:48,040
Speaker 5: They sent pictures and they said that in the Saint

2592
02:04:48,080 --> 02:04:52,880
Speaker 5: Elmo's Saint Elmo's urinals says hundreds of NFL personnel will

2593
02:04:52,880 --> 02:04:55,080
Speaker 5: be using these bathrooms at Saint Elmo's over the next

2594
02:04:55,120 --> 02:04:57,760
Speaker 5: couple of days. And somebody really hates the packers.

2595
02:04:59,480 --> 02:05:02,080
Speaker 2: That does someth like Mark is back in town.

2596
02:05:02,280 --> 02:05:05,360
Speaker 5: Johnson, Ben Johnson, could I mean, we've heard what Ben

2597
02:05:05,440 --> 02:05:07,760
Speaker 5: Johnson thinks getting easily that is aod point.

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02:05:08,320 --> 02:05:09,960
Speaker 2: That was a good point. I I don't know if

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02:05:09,960 --> 02:05:12,000
Speaker 2: I've ever sent a picture of a urinal to anybody

2600
02:05:12,040 --> 02:05:13,720
Speaker 2: in my life, but I just sent one to Mark Dyton.

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02:05:13,760 --> 02:05:17,400
Speaker 2: Check your Twitter, Mark, it's a uh, it's a blank picture.

2602
02:05:17,760 --> 02:05:21,760
Speaker 2: No packer urinals or packer whatever cleaning discs you call them?

2603
02:05:22,040 --> 02:05:24,840
Speaker 5: There on the hour going forward?

2604
02:05:26,080 --> 02:05:28,520
Speaker 2: How about I just walked by the Dallas Cowboys table

2605
02:05:28,560 --> 02:05:34,320
Speaker 2: here their radio show. They're like us. They are up

2606
02:05:34,400 --> 02:05:36,440
Speaker 2: early in the morning doing their show. It's pretty much

2607
02:05:36,520 --> 02:05:39,360
Speaker 2: us in them as the only two shows starting early

2608
02:05:39,400 --> 02:05:41,960
Speaker 2: in the morning, and which is very impressive because they're

2609
02:05:41,960 --> 02:05:42,800
Speaker 2: on Central time zone.

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Speaker 3: James.

2611
02:05:43,280 --> 02:05:46,320
Speaker 2: They're currently debating if you would pay ten million dollars

2612
02:05:46,360 --> 02:05:51,880
Speaker 2: to Brandon Aubrey the Kicker. Oh can you imagine that debate?

2613
02:05:52,080 --> 02:05:54,320
Speaker 2: Ten million for a kicker? Aren't the Colts in a

2614
02:05:54,320 --> 02:05:55,320
Speaker 2: great kicker situation?

2615
02:05:55,680 --> 02:05:58,200
Speaker 3: Yeah? Actually I got a question about that the other day.

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02:05:58,200 --> 02:06:01,320
Speaker 4: I like, wait a second, They've got two dudes that

2617
02:06:01,640 --> 02:06:03,240
Speaker 4: you know, are pretty promising.

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02:06:03,320 --> 02:06:03,760
Speaker 3: I guess.

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02:06:03,960 --> 02:06:09,000
Speaker 4: So yeah, that was a surprising question because I'm thinking

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02:06:09,000 --> 02:06:11,000
Speaker 4: to myself, kicker was not on my list of things

2621
02:06:11,000 --> 02:06:15,959
Speaker 4: to talk about at all. But I assume it's Spencer Strader.

2622
02:06:16,840 --> 02:06:21,600
Speaker 2: But Blake Group till Spencer Trader is healthy as I think.

2623
02:06:21,520 --> 02:06:22,200
Speaker 3: That I would think so.

2624
02:06:22,360 --> 02:06:25,760
Speaker 4: But I mean, hey, the last guy is I guess

2625
02:06:25,800 --> 02:06:27,680
Speaker 4: gets the the best impression.

2626
02:06:27,880 --> 02:06:30,280
Speaker 3: So yeah, that again, it's a good problem to have.

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02:06:30,440 --> 02:06:31,160
Speaker 12: Well, we'll see.

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02:06:33,320 --> 02:06:36,520
Speaker 2: Serious leggage. I mean, Brandon Aubrey is worth ten million, right,

2629
02:06:36,600 --> 02:06:38,960
Speaker 2: is he not? I mean, he's the greatest kicker in

2630
02:06:38,960 --> 02:06:39,720
Speaker 2: the NFL history.

2631
02:06:39,760 --> 02:06:43,960
Speaker 3: I'm gonna say he might not be. Really, that dude

2632
02:06:43,960 --> 02:06:47,560
Speaker 3: doesn't win you two to three games a year, that's true.

2633
02:06:47,280 --> 02:06:49,120
Speaker 4: But okay, how much do you trust him to state

2634
02:06:49,320 --> 02:06:54,160
Speaker 4: who he is? I kickers are finishy man thoughts coming

2635
02:06:54,280 --> 02:06:58,000
Speaker 4: they they fluctuate. This dude's a robot. This dude is unbelievable.

2636
02:06:58,040 --> 02:07:00,520
Speaker 4: He is unbelievable. And the fact that that's he conversation

2637
02:07:00,600 --> 02:07:02,080
Speaker 4: that speaks to how talented he is.

2638
02:07:02,240 --> 02:07:04,560
Speaker 2: Notre dame soccer player, Brandon Aubrey.

2639
02:07:04,840 --> 02:07:07,240
Speaker 3: Look at you gotta throw that irish in there.

2640
02:07:07,280 --> 02:07:09,880
Speaker 4: Mark would ever not been so you had what you

2641
02:07:09,880 --> 02:07:12,520
Speaker 4: had you were Cathedral Irish, right, Yes.

2642
02:07:12,360 --> 02:07:15,839
Speaker 3: Well, I was a Cherry Tree Patriot, a Clay Trojan,

2643
02:07:16,520 --> 02:07:21,240
Speaker 3: and then a you remember your elementary school mascot Patriots, baby.

2644
02:07:21,040 --> 02:07:23,440
Speaker 2: Cherry Tree walketh on Friday after lunch. Oh that's where

2645
02:07:23,440 --> 02:07:24,480
Speaker 2: I was a hermits and Husky.

2646
02:07:24,560 --> 02:07:25,040
Speaker 3: There we go.

2647
02:07:25,360 --> 02:07:27,880
Speaker 2: I have to remember I'm Brandon Aubrey stats. I mean,

2648
02:07:28,040 --> 02:07:29,320
Speaker 2: he isn't well.

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02:07:29,640 --> 02:07:31,600
Speaker 4: I believe a few months ago, Kevin, one of the

2650
02:07:31,680 --> 02:07:34,960
Speaker 4: questions you asked was is he better at kicking than

2651
02:07:35,080 --> 02:07:36,920
Speaker 4: anybody else is in their position?

2652
02:07:36,960 --> 02:07:37,000
Speaker 17: Like?

2653
02:07:37,080 --> 02:07:39,120
Speaker 4: Is the gap between him is the best kicker bigger

2654
02:07:39,160 --> 02:07:40,720
Speaker 4: than anybody else in any position? And the only other

2655
02:07:40,760 --> 02:07:41,879
Speaker 4: player can think of was Miles.

2656
02:07:41,680 --> 02:07:44,160
Speaker 3: Garrett, right, right, So.

2657
02:07:45,840 --> 02:07:49,040
Speaker 4: That's the debate. That's the problem. We're talking about the

2658
02:07:49,040 --> 02:07:50,680
Speaker 4: problem the Colts have with their kicking situation.

2659
02:07:50,840 --> 02:07:53,000
Speaker 3: That is like luxury. One thing I want to get

2660
02:07:53,000 --> 02:07:53,800
Speaker 3: into tomorrow.

2661
02:07:53,960 --> 02:07:56,600
Speaker 2: You know, today we did, okay, one thing you agreed

2662
02:07:56,640 --> 02:07:59,280
Speaker 2: with from Chris Ballard, one thing you disagreed with. Again,

2663
02:07:59,280 --> 02:08:03,600
Speaker 2: if you missed the conversation that's up on our podcast page,

2664
02:08:04,480 --> 02:08:06,880
Speaker 2: I'm gonna give you five names. And Mark joined in

2665
02:08:06,920 --> 02:08:09,720
Speaker 2: on this as well, and I'll try to do it alphabetically. Okay,

2666
02:08:10,640 --> 02:08:15,320
Speaker 2: five colts, and let's rank them most likely to be

2667
02:08:15,480 --> 02:08:18,360
Speaker 2: back to least likely to be back. I'll give them

2668
02:08:18,400 --> 02:08:21,560
Speaker 2: an alphabetical order, just to be fair here, But the

2669
02:08:21,600 --> 02:08:24,800
Speaker 2: five colts that we'll give our thoughts on tomorrow. Let's

2670
02:08:24,800 --> 02:08:29,879
Speaker 2: go Nit Cross, let's go Ziyon Franklin, let's go Daniel Jones,

2671
02:08:31,640 --> 02:08:40,040
Speaker 2: let's go Alex Alec Pierce, and let's go Michael Pittman Jr. Cross, Franklin, Jones, Pierce, Pittman.

2672
02:08:40,840 --> 02:08:44,480
Speaker 2: Rank those five. We'll do it tomorrow, most likely to

2673
02:08:44,600 --> 02:08:45,720
Speaker 2: least likely to be back.

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02:08:48,480 --> 02:08:50,960
Speaker 4: I'm winning this debate, by the way, even though there

2675
02:08:50,960 --> 02:08:52,920
Speaker 4: isn't really a way to win it. But letting y'all

2676
02:08:52,960 --> 02:08:55,640
Speaker 4: know right now, I'll have the best arguments, best order.

2677
02:08:55,800 --> 02:08:57,440
Speaker 3: Did I see Stephen Holders finally here?

2678
02:08:58,080 --> 02:09:00,920
Speaker 5: Yeah?

2679
02:09:01,280 --> 02:09:04,200
Speaker 3: Not yet. It was like last night or maybe Tuesday nights.

2680
02:09:05,040 --> 02:09:07,520
Speaker 4: So after Ballard and Stichen had already spoken, and I

2681
02:09:07,520 --> 02:09:09,400
Speaker 4: told him you don't have to cause broke with your picture,

2682
02:09:09,960 --> 02:09:11,560
Speaker 4: you know, basically said I'm stuck in Portugal.

2683
02:09:11,680 --> 02:09:12,360
Speaker 3: I think he's you.

2684
02:09:12,280 --> 02:09:15,560
Speaker 4: Know, a little fraudulent there, supposed to be a man of integrity.

2685
02:09:15,560 --> 02:09:16,440
Speaker 4: I don't trust him.

2686
02:09:16,640 --> 02:09:18,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, he just chimed in here on Twitter. I thought

2687
02:09:18,440 --> 02:09:20,200
Speaker 2: I saw him from across the room earlier, but he

2688
02:09:20,240 --> 02:09:22,080
Speaker 2: said free agent market. I don't think this made the

2689
02:09:22,080 --> 02:09:25,480
Speaker 2: most stunning news. But the last note I find interesting

2690
02:09:25,520 --> 02:09:27,600
Speaker 2: he goes free agent market for Pierce is bigger than

2691
02:09:27,640 --> 02:09:30,920
Speaker 2: that of quarterback Daniel Jones. Jones will earn more i e.

2692
02:09:31,040 --> 02:09:33,720
Speaker 2: Quarterback versus wide out, but there are more outside teams

2693
02:09:33,760 --> 02:09:37,120
Speaker 2: interested in Pierce. This needs to be consideration how they

2694
02:09:37,200 --> 02:09:38,640
Speaker 2: navigate the franchise.

2695
02:09:39,080 --> 02:09:44,920
Speaker 4: Tag Absolutely, I think that is honestly a pretty simplistic

2696
02:09:44,920 --> 02:09:46,480
Speaker 4: way to look at it. I would say even the

2697
02:09:46,480 --> 02:09:49,200
Speaker 4: listeners here on the show probably knew that. But at

2698
02:09:49,240 --> 02:09:52,920
Speaker 4: the same time, it comes down to how confident are

2699
02:09:52,960 --> 02:09:57,879
Speaker 4: you in your ability to retain Daniel Jones. And contrary

2700
02:09:57,880 --> 02:09:59,760
Speaker 4: to what someone might believe, I don't think he has

2701
02:10:00,000 --> 02:10:02,840
Speaker 4: any reasons to take any team discount last chance to

2702
02:10:02,840 --> 02:10:04,720
Speaker 4: get paid in the various about violence, sport, coming off

2703
02:10:04,760 --> 02:10:08,320
Speaker 4: major injury, get the bag young man. So again I

2704
02:10:08,360 --> 02:10:11,360
Speaker 4: would lean towards tagging Alex Pearce trying to work out

2705
02:10:11,400 --> 02:10:14,560
Speaker 4: a long term deal for Daniel Jones, and don't be

2706
02:10:14,640 --> 02:10:17,440
Speaker 4: surprised if and when that happens that we see one

2707
02:10:17,480 --> 02:10:22,120
Speaker 4: hundred million dollars next to that man's name. Can I

2708
02:10:22,160 --> 02:10:23,440
Speaker 4: give a shout out, by the way, Yeah, yeah, go

2709
02:10:24,360 --> 02:10:29,560
Speaker 4: shout out to my grandmother, Dorothy boy turn eighty eight today,

2710
02:10:31,320 --> 02:10:33,640
Speaker 4: still doing her things, and.

2711
02:10:33,680 --> 02:10:35,760
Speaker 3: Go Dorothy happy eighty eight.

2712
02:10:36,040 --> 02:10:39,760
Speaker 4: You know, I know I used to have to call

2713
02:10:39,800 --> 02:10:41,800
Speaker 4: her miss Boyd because she took us to school with her,

2714
02:10:41,800 --> 02:10:44,320
Speaker 4: and she would tell us, you get no preferential treatment.

2715
02:10:44,360 --> 02:10:46,080
Speaker 4: You gotta act like all the other kids, and don't

2716
02:10:46,080 --> 02:10:47,600
Speaker 4: call me by my first name. Don't call me grandma.

2717
02:10:47,600 --> 02:10:49,280
Speaker 4: They're gonna think you your you're getting favoritism.

2718
02:10:49,440 --> 02:10:52,280
Speaker 2: Is there a more popular grandma name than Dorothy?

2719
02:10:53,120 --> 02:10:55,960
Speaker 3: I don't think, man, I don't think so. I don't

2720
02:10:55,960 --> 02:10:59,520
Speaker 3: think so. Gotta be top the era, top five, gotta

2721
02:10:59,560 --> 02:11:01,240
Speaker 3: be top five at top three.

2722
02:11:01,480 --> 02:11:03,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, but Dorothy Boyd is still going to the church

2723
02:11:03,640 --> 02:11:06,919
Speaker 4: every Tuesday and Wednesday, volunteering with our food pantry.

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02:11:07,000 --> 02:11:08,520
Speaker 3: That's the most grandma thing I've ever heard.

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02:11:08,600 --> 02:11:10,840
Speaker 4: I know, man, she's good people. So I just wanted

2726
02:11:10,840 --> 02:11:12,320
Speaker 4: to give out a shout out to.

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02:11:12,320 --> 02:11:14,840
Speaker 3: Her some love. I love that. I absolutely love that

2728
02:11:15,000 --> 02:11:15,600
Speaker 3: shout out to.

2729
02:11:16,320 --> 02:11:18,680
Speaker 2: Unfortunately only met one of my two grandmas, but shout

2730
02:11:18,720 --> 02:11:21,800
Speaker 2: out to Anne Dona who missed her dear lye and boy,

2731
02:11:21,800 --> 02:11:22,640
Speaker 2: there's talking about grandma.

2732
02:11:22,640 --> 02:11:26,080
Speaker 3: I can still smell my grandma's house, can you I

2733
02:11:26,120 --> 02:11:27,160
Speaker 3: still go to my grandma souse?

2734
02:11:27,160 --> 02:11:27,680
Speaker 2: Oh yeah you do?

2735
02:11:28,280 --> 02:11:28,400
Speaker 15: So?

2736
02:11:28,680 --> 02:11:31,400
Speaker 3: Yeah. She has pictures taped to the wall of our house.

2737
02:11:31,440 --> 02:11:32,160
Speaker 3: She loves pictures.

2738
02:11:32,200 --> 02:11:34,840
Speaker 2: My grandma's a huge Cubs fan, Mark Dycton, Oh, hell

2739
02:11:34,960 --> 02:11:35,320
Speaker 2: love that.

2740
02:11:35,640 --> 02:11:36,600
Speaker 3: So I love this.

2741
02:11:36,720 --> 02:11:38,480
Speaker 2: I remember just being sick and going over there and

2742
02:11:38,480 --> 02:11:40,360
Speaker 2: watching WGN back in the day, and you.

2743
02:11:40,400 --> 02:11:42,280
Speaker 5: Still betrayed her trust and became a Reds fan.

2744
02:11:44,160 --> 02:11:45,440
Speaker 3: I'm trying to think about Dorothy. Boy.

2745
02:11:45,760 --> 02:11:47,600
Speaker 4: She loves to ask me when we're watching a game,

2746
02:11:47,680 --> 02:11:49,960
Speaker 4: and we don't watch a lot of baseball in my family,

2747
02:11:50,480 --> 02:11:53,000
Speaker 4: so we're watching basketball and she'll be like, what ending

2748
02:11:53,120 --> 02:11:55,160
Speaker 4: is it? And I'm like, Grandma, when have I ever

2749
02:11:55,320 --> 02:11:57,280
Speaker 4: referenced an ending? And she'll just giggle and then her

2750
02:11:57,320 --> 02:12:00,280
Speaker 4: favorite thing to say, you maybe it's twenty eight three

2751
02:12:00,320 --> 02:12:02,840
Speaker 4: game in Super Bowl years ago. You could be down

2752
02:12:02,880 --> 02:12:05,560
Speaker 4: by one hundred with a minute ago, and she's gonna say,

2753
02:12:05,760 --> 02:12:06,640
Speaker 4: is anybody's game?

2754
02:12:07,000 --> 02:12:07,040
Speaker 5: No?

2755
02:12:07,160 --> 02:12:10,760
Speaker 3: I love that classic line form, miss boys. I love that. Yeah,

2756
02:12:11,360 --> 02:12:13,320
Speaker 3: I need to be using some of that Dorothy Lingo here.

2757
02:12:13,720 --> 02:12:16,600
Speaker 2: Thank you today in Brugler NFL draft analysts for joining us.

2758
02:12:16,600 --> 02:12:19,360
Speaker 2: If you missed it, that will be up on the podcast.

2759
02:12:19,680 --> 02:12:22,960
Speaker 2: A reminder tomorrow Field Yates from ESPN. He'll be live

2760
02:12:22,960 --> 02:12:25,520
Speaker 2: here on Radio Row with us at eight o'clock. Chris

2761
02:12:25,520 --> 02:12:28,200
Speaker 2: Call from visit Indy. They're always up to something from

2762
02:12:28,200 --> 02:12:31,160
Speaker 2: a booking standpoint, and he's gonna join us here live

2763
02:12:31,240 --> 02:12:35,560
Speaker 2: coming up tomorrow on the show. Thank you to Mark

2764
02:12:35,640 --> 02:12:38,760
Speaker 2: Dykedon back in studio. Thank you to Cam Blank and

2765
02:12:38,840 --> 02:12:42,280
Speaker 2: Ship on site engineer. It'll be the same duo coming

2766
02:12:42,360 --> 02:12:45,560
Speaker 2: up tomorrow. It'll be James Boyd and myself. Kevin Bowen

2767
02:12:45,600 --> 02:12:49,280
Speaker 2: remind her pacers hornets tonight seven o'clock inside of Gambridge

2768
02:12:49,280 --> 02:12:52,200
Speaker 2: Field House, Perdue, Michigan State, eight o'clock. I have a

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02:12:52,200 --> 02:12:53,680
Speaker 2: great Thursday. We'll talk to you tomorrow