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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: We mentioned something that he said on the Will Kine

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Speaker 1: We need to get that guy a meter because he

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Speaker 4: Help us because he is well.

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Speaker 1: Uh, first of all, before we get into that, we

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Speaker 3: Yeah when you were always, oh yeah, you were always.

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Speaker 3: I love the Redheaded Stranger.

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Speaker 2: It's a long distance dedication.

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Speaker 5: All right.

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Speaker 1: So here's what I'm here's a background on this because

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Speaker 1: Let me explain how this relationship works. I am the media.

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Speaker 1: by that. But I don't have to tell you about

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Speaker 1: I like you. I don't tell you abouty You're doing

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Speaker 3: So what he said was that, in regards to the

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Speaker 2: He said, if any of those people.

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Speaker 2: Come on, we'll have you welcome.

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Speaker 3: He said, We've got you know, we're great for business

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Speaker 1: because that's all this state has done the past ten

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Speaker 1: Oh so and so's coming here and they're bringing X

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well, the landscape has totally changed.

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Speaker 1: So I said, no, idiot, we don't want people coming

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Speaker 6: Folks leaving New York, is there a fear that one

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Speaker 5: Well, that's not what I said. And you have one

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Speaker 1: We got our addresser because Hammer Nigel asked me about

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Speaker 1: Okay, nobody's saying you said to vote Democrat. But what

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Speaker 1: And then what happens is, yes, these people may not

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Speaker 3: Well, what he was saying is that they're leaving places

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Speaker 1: And yes they may be fleeing insanity, but they're gonna

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Speaker 4: Or what an hour? That was right?

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Speaker 1: Some people are mad I exist because I'm not beholden

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Speaker 4: I know what they are and I ran away from them.

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Speaker 1: And they hate that that exists because they can't control it,

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Speaker 4: You're a colleague.

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Speaker 1: How many times have we invited these guys come in

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Speaker 1: Much time and you can say all the horrible, rotten

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Speaker 3: Well, even if his utility bills do go up here

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Speaker 1: Yes, I am so jealous that a grown ass man

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Speaker 1: He ran for leadership in the House, he was resoundingly

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Speaker 3: So Donald Trump said that it is time to end

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Speaker 3: the filibuster and reopen the government and secure elections.

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Speaker 7: I think it's time for them to end the filibuster

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Speaker 7: and just put everybody back to work. Vote in voter ID,

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Speaker 8: I'd like to see one day voting.

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Speaker 7: I'd like to see, not sixty five days of voting

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Speaker 8: Though. I'd like to clean up the elections. The border.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so obviously there have been several of these biopick movies.

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Speaker 1: there's leather jacket Elvis, you know, Rockabilly Elvis movie, elve

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Speaker 4: And how do you fit that all into one movie

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Speaker 1: Well that it's going to bomb too, because no offense.

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Speaker 4: Go see that.

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Speaker 1: Would you pay twelve dollars to go see some guy

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Speaker 4: Trancey has over people were with him.

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Speaker 1: Let's address the first two because those don't concern me

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Speaker 1: the then there's the rest of it, and the rest

443
00:21:17,720 --> 00:21:20,600
Speaker 1: of it is the is the big anchor, which is

444
00:21:20,640 --> 00:21:23,959
Speaker 1: the student loan debt and the credit card debt, because

445
00:21:23,960 --> 00:21:27,439
Speaker 1: that's not returning you anything. It doesn't do anything for you. Now,

446
00:21:27,440 --> 00:21:29,639
Speaker 1: a student loan can conceivingly you have a degree, I

447
00:21:29,680 --> 00:21:33,040
Speaker 1: get a job, but clearly if you're it's not unless

448
00:21:33,080 --> 00:21:35,080
Speaker 1: you're a doctor, a lawyer, or some high paying position.

449
00:21:35,240 --> 00:21:36,840
Speaker 2: It's got to outpace the loan.

450
00:21:36,720 --> 00:21:39,679
Speaker 1: Right exactly, and in most cases it's it appears to

451
00:21:39,720 --> 00:21:42,639
Speaker 1: not be. And then obviously the credit card debt is

452
00:21:42,680 --> 00:21:45,480
Speaker 1: just actual money spent, and that's a that's totally a

453
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Speaker 1: song call.

454
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Speaker 3: The average credit card debt per borrower is six twenty

455
00:21:50,960 --> 00:21:51,600
Speaker 3: three dollars.

456
00:21:51,640 --> 00:21:52,760
Speaker 4: That's what they own.

457
00:21:53,880 --> 00:21:56,960
Speaker 1: The average person, average person in this country, oh six

458
00:21:57,160 --> 00:21:58,480
Speaker 1: thous how much six.

459
00:21:58,800 --> 00:22:01,640
Speaker 2: Five twenty three dollars on their credit card.

460
00:22:01,760 --> 00:22:06,840
Speaker 1: That is so scary. And how do you get to

461
00:22:06,920 --> 00:22:08,720
Speaker 1: that position?

462
00:22:08,840 --> 00:22:13,360
Speaker 3: So by just paying your utility bills, insurance, medical bills.

463
00:22:13,440 --> 00:22:15,399
Speaker 1: Okay, so this this is then when we get to

464
00:22:15,400 --> 00:22:16,960
Speaker 1: the next part, like this is the problem with this,

465
00:22:17,080 --> 00:22:18,600
Speaker 1: It's such a large problem.

466
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Speaker 4: There's no way we're going to solve it in one segment.

467
00:22:20,560 --> 00:22:25,439
Speaker 1: But if you're paying your utility bills or your mortgage

468
00:22:25,800 --> 00:22:28,240
Speaker 1: or any sort of monthly expense on a credit card,

469
00:22:28,680 --> 00:22:33,680
Speaker 1: you're lifing wrong right like. And then it comes back

470
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Speaker 1: to a failure both of the public education system but

471
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Speaker 1: also parenting in general, of people not having a firm understanding.

472
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Speaker 2: Of finances and financial literacy.

473
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Speaker 4: Here's how yeah, here's how it works.

474
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Speaker 1: And one of the things that my father did for me,

475
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Speaker 1: and in hindsight it proved to be very helpful in

476
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Speaker 1: the long run, was he basically said, at about fifteen

477
00:23:02,720 --> 00:23:07,920
Speaker 1: or sixteen, here's life. College is on you. Here's your options.

478
00:23:07,960 --> 00:23:10,600
Speaker 1: Here's the one I'd take, go forth and figure it

479
00:23:10,600 --> 00:23:12,520
Speaker 1: out right. And I was allowed to live at his

480
00:23:12,600 --> 00:23:15,280
Speaker 1: house and under his rules, and so I didn't have

481
00:23:15,320 --> 00:23:18,280
Speaker 1: a more rent or anything like that. But all of

482
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Speaker 1: the stuff, the expenses of living were my responsibility from

483
00:23:22,040 --> 00:23:24,800
Speaker 1: a very young age, and it taught me the discipline

484
00:23:25,080 --> 00:23:27,280
Speaker 1: of here's how you do these things, here's how you

485
00:23:27,280 --> 00:23:27,960
Speaker 1: pay these things up.

486
00:23:28,000 --> 00:23:29,679
Speaker 4: I will help you with a B and C, but

487
00:23:29,760 --> 00:23:30,720
Speaker 4: everything else is on you.

488
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Speaker 1: And I think a lot of parents bailed their kids

489
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Speaker 1: out too much at a young age. And they don't

490
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Speaker 1: learn the financial discipline.

491
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Speaker 4: Like I remember when I was when I was.

492
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Speaker 1: Sixteen, there was this kid on my baseball team and

493
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Speaker 1: his parents bought him a Mustang And I remember seeing

494
00:23:47,480 --> 00:23:50,919
Speaker 1: him pull up the baseball practice and that Mustang, and

495
00:23:50,960 --> 00:23:53,680
Speaker 1: I was like, that is going to screw that kid

496
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Speaker 1: up forever. First of all, a kit should never drive

497
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Speaker 1: a nicer car than their parents. Never, under no circumstance

498
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Speaker 1: should again an the car their parents. But also, what

499
00:24:03,080 --> 00:24:06,520
Speaker 1: are you teaching that kid that at that age you're

500
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Speaker 1: not responsible enough to have that car.

501
00:24:08,760 --> 00:24:10,040
Speaker 2: He's not going to value it either.

502
00:24:09,920 --> 00:24:11,199
Speaker 1: Right, And I get people love their kids and they

503
00:24:11,200 --> 00:24:12,920
Speaker 1: wouldn't for them, blah blah blah.

504
00:24:13,040 --> 00:24:16,440
Speaker 4: But it's like like that's the thing we don't.

505
00:24:16,160 --> 00:24:18,520
Speaker 1: Teach, and we can put it on the public education system,

506
00:24:18,600 --> 00:24:20,520
Speaker 1: and part of it we should, because they don't teach you.

507
00:24:20,720 --> 00:24:24,040
Speaker 1: They'll teach you nine thousand different languages, but they won't

508
00:24:24,040 --> 00:24:26,199
Speaker 1: teach you how to, you know, balance your checkbook and

509
00:24:26,240 --> 00:24:28,679
Speaker 1: pay the bills and all that stuff. But also the

510
00:24:28,760 --> 00:24:32,520
Speaker 1: parenting of teaching your kids life is hard. You earn

511
00:24:32,600 --> 00:24:36,280
Speaker 1: stuff you aren't giving it, and and and purchases them,

512
00:24:36,320 --> 00:24:38,480
Speaker 1: especially big purchases you've got to put a lot of

513
00:24:38,480 --> 00:24:41,080
Speaker 1: thought into them. You got the ramifications, but clearly that

514
00:24:41,119 --> 00:24:42,480
Speaker 1: is not happening in our society.

515
00:24:42,720 --> 00:24:44,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, and you'll take more pride in it once you

516
00:24:44,680 --> 00:24:47,240
Speaker 3: do work for it. Yeah, entertain or you'll end up.

517
00:24:47,200 --> 00:24:49,200
Speaker 1: At forty years old driving a car without power locks

518
00:24:49,240 --> 00:24:51,720
Speaker 1: and windows. Why because it gets me to and from work.

519
00:24:51,920 --> 00:24:55,639
Speaker 3: Top ten percent of households now account for nearly half

520
00:24:55,880 --> 00:24:57,240
Speaker 3: of all consumer spending.

521
00:24:57,400 --> 00:24:57,840
Speaker 4: What is it?

522
00:24:58,160 --> 00:25:02,080
Speaker 3: Top ten percent of households, top ten percent earners account

523
00:25:02,160 --> 00:25:04,159
Speaker 3: for nearly half of all consumer spending.

524
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Speaker 1: That's also very concerning because it's what we talk about

525
00:25:07,119 --> 00:25:08,120
Speaker 1: all the time in this program.

526
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Speaker 4: A society thrives when they have a.

527
00:25:13,240 --> 00:25:15,639
Speaker 1: Robust middle class, both in the amount of people in

528
00:25:15,680 --> 00:25:19,199
Speaker 1: the middle class and their ability to elevate forward in

529
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Speaker 1: the middle class.

530
00:25:19,960 --> 00:25:21,400
Speaker 4: Like that's because.

531
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Speaker 1: There's always going to be tippy top people, even the

532
00:25:22,920 --> 00:25:26,080
Speaker 1: you know, the North Korean society, right, there's tippy top people.

533
00:25:26,800 --> 00:25:31,360
Speaker 1: But if the rank and file aren't moving forward, it's

534
00:25:31,359 --> 00:25:34,719
Speaker 1: always about like this is a weird analogy, but it's

535
00:25:34,760 --> 00:25:37,080
Speaker 1: the best thing I can think of. When I was

536
00:25:37,119 --> 00:25:40,120
Speaker 1: an elected official, because I was an elected official. Our

537
00:25:40,200 --> 00:25:41,960
Speaker 1: senator doesn't seem to know that, but I was an

538
00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:44,199
Speaker 1: elected official. One of the things we had to do,

539
00:25:44,280 --> 00:25:46,280
Speaker 1: and it was a fascinating venture, was to create a

540
00:25:46,280 --> 00:25:48,920
Speaker 1: new sign in zoning ordinance for the for the town.

541
00:25:49,720 --> 00:25:52,199
Speaker 1: And it had been like ten to fifteen years since

542
00:25:52,240 --> 00:25:54,359
Speaker 1: they touched signing zoning ordnances. Obvious, there's all sorts of

543
00:25:54,440 --> 00:25:56,680
Speaker 1: changes and you've got to update all this stuff. And

544
00:25:56,760 --> 00:25:59,320
Speaker 1: one of the things I'll never forget this when dealing

545
00:25:59,400 --> 00:26:04,520
Speaker 1: with signage, whether it's it's street signs or whether it's

546
00:26:04,560 --> 00:26:07,320
Speaker 1: signed businesses that are located near streets, and how you

547
00:26:07,320 --> 00:26:09,320
Speaker 1: do that is and the chief of.

548
00:26:09,280 --> 00:26:09,919
Speaker 4: Police said this.

549
00:26:10,320 --> 00:26:13,679
Speaker 1: He said, the goal of traffic should always be to

550
00:26:13,840 --> 00:26:17,800
Speaker 1: keep it moving, even if it's at five miles an hour.

551
00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:22,400
Speaker 1: People feel optimistic as long as they are going forward.

552
00:26:22,440 --> 00:26:23,959
Speaker 1: I mean you think about like on the highway, if

553
00:26:23,960 --> 00:26:26,439
Speaker 1: you're stuck on seventy or four sixty five or whatever,

554
00:26:27,000 --> 00:26:30,360
Speaker 1: even if you're creeping, as long as you're going you think, well,

555
00:26:30,359 --> 00:26:32,160
Speaker 1: maybe it's right up the road that it is right,

556
00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:34,560
Speaker 1: so you're optimist. It's when you sit there. And the

557
00:26:34,600 --> 00:26:38,640
Speaker 1: same thing is true with our classes in society. If

558
00:26:38,640 --> 00:26:42,159
Speaker 1: people are moving forward, even if it's by one or

559
00:26:42,160 --> 00:26:44,760
Speaker 1: two percent every year, or they feel themselves being elevator,

560
00:26:44,800 --> 00:26:46,359
Speaker 1: or they were able to get a little bit nicer

561
00:26:46,400 --> 00:26:50,000
Speaker 1: car or whatever. They feel hopeful, Hey, this is going

562
00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:51,719
Speaker 1: to keep getting better. I'm going to continue to engage

563
00:26:51,760 --> 00:26:54,840
Speaker 1: in the society. But then when they don't or they

564
00:26:54,840 --> 00:26:58,600
Speaker 1: start shrinking or going down, people lose hope, they lose optimism,

565
00:26:58,720 --> 00:27:01,639
Speaker 1: and that's when you start seeing the real decay of society.

566
00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:03,760
Speaker 2: So something happens on Monday.

567
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Speaker 3: It's the fiftieth anniversary of the sinking of the Edmund Fitzgerald.

568
00:27:08,160 --> 00:27:09,800
Speaker 4: Yes, are you aware of this?

569
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Speaker 2: It's like a song, It's like a requirement.

570
00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:14,359
Speaker 3: You know, I lived in Michigan a few times in

571
00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:16,399
Speaker 3: my life, and when you do that, you have to

572
00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:19,399
Speaker 3: know the history of this. So I thought at this

573
00:27:19,520 --> 00:27:22,320
Speaker 3: point in the program we could test your knowledge of

574
00:27:22,359 --> 00:27:24,560
Speaker 3: the SS Edmund fitz real quick.

575
00:27:24,600 --> 00:27:25,800
Speaker 1: I love that you think I'm suposed to have some

576
00:27:25,840 --> 00:27:28,520
Speaker 1: sort of knowledge outside of the song, Like what, I've

577
00:27:28,560 --> 00:27:31,720
Speaker 1: never lived in Michigan. I've never been a boater, I've

578
00:27:31,720 --> 00:27:33,119
Speaker 1: never been a fisherman.

579
00:27:33,680 --> 00:27:35,120
Speaker 2: But you're aware of the song.

580
00:27:35,160 --> 00:27:37,400
Speaker 4: I know the song, Yeah, the Gordon Lifefitz song. Right,

581
00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:40,480
Speaker 4: is the legend lives on from the.

582
00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:43,280
Speaker 8: Big day.

583
00:27:43,720 --> 00:27:44,720
Speaker 4: Get the shaguns.

584
00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:48,600
Speaker 2: Okay, you ready, here's some questions? Ready, Yes, this first

585
00:27:48,600 --> 00:27:49,440
Speaker 2: one's a gimme.

586
00:27:49,280 --> 00:27:51,280
Speaker 3: If you can do math, rob. When did the Edmund

587
00:27:51,280 --> 00:27:52,240
Speaker 3: Fitzgerald sink?

588
00:27:52,359 --> 00:27:54,760
Speaker 1: Well, it would have been nineteen seventy five, correct, Was

589
00:27:54,760 --> 00:27:58,359
Speaker 1: the song seventy eight or seventy seven? I can't remember

590
00:27:58,400 --> 00:28:00,560
Speaker 1: seventy eight or seventy seven, but I think it was

591
00:28:00,600 --> 00:28:02,119
Speaker 1: two or three years later he did the song anyway,

592
00:28:02,119 --> 00:28:02,400
Speaker 1: go ahead?

593
00:28:02,440 --> 00:28:05,440
Speaker 3: How many tons of iron ore was the Edmund Fitzgerald

594
00:28:05,480 --> 00:28:06,520
Speaker 3: hauling when it sank?

595
00:28:06,760 --> 00:28:11,479
Speaker 4: A load of iron ore? Was it? It's tons?

596
00:28:11,560 --> 00:28:11,760
Speaker 8: Is it?

597
00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:15,280
Speaker 4: Twenty twenty twenty six tons?

598
00:28:15,840 --> 00:28:16,000
Speaker 8: Is it?

599
00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:17,679
Speaker 4: Twenty is twenty six tons.

600
00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:21,520
Speaker 3: Twenty six twenty six yeah, twenty six thousand, sixteen?

601
00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:25,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, tons like pounds. It's no wonder it's sank. Who

602
00:28:25,880 --> 00:28:27,520
Speaker 1: thought putting twenty twenty.

603
00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:31,080
Speaker 3: Six thousand, Yeah, twenty six, one hundred and sixteen tons.

604
00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:34,520
Speaker 3: Where was the Fitzgerald coming from after picking up her load?

605
00:28:34,720 --> 00:28:36,560
Speaker 4: It was coming from Wisconsin?

606
00:28:36,720 --> 00:28:40,040
Speaker 3: Correct, very good? Where was it headed before it sank?

607
00:28:40,120 --> 00:28:41,560
Speaker 1: Now you and I are going to get into this

608
00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:43,840
Speaker 1: because the song says Cleveland.

609
00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:46,440
Speaker 4: Correct, But you said he got that wrong.

610
00:28:46,600 --> 00:28:47,520
Speaker 2: He did get that wrong.

611
00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:51,880
Speaker 1: It's you said it's Michigan. How did he miss that?

612
00:28:51,920 --> 00:28:54,160
Speaker 1: Seems like a pretty big omission.

613
00:28:53,840 --> 00:28:56,800
Speaker 2: Right or mistake? Yeah? I agree?

614
00:28:57,040 --> 00:28:59,000
Speaker 1: Now the whole rest of it, it's like the Elvis movie.

615
00:28:59,040 --> 00:29:00,560
Speaker 1: Did he just make it all up the ship? Not

616
00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:01,280
Speaker 1: even really sink?

617
00:29:01,360 --> 00:29:04,360
Speaker 3: I believe that's the only error that's truly the big one. Yeah,

618
00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:06,720
Speaker 3: but what do he miss that? Where was the Fitzgerald headed?

619
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Speaker 1: Well, we just we just discussed, right, it was Cleveland

620
00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:11,280
Speaker 1: and the song Michigan.

621
00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:13,640
Speaker 3: In reality, Detroit is where it was going. Do you

622
00:29:13,720 --> 00:29:15,080
Speaker 3: know the name of the captain.

623
00:29:16,320 --> 00:29:18,360
Speaker 4: He just calls him the captain and the song, doesn't

624
00:29:18,400 --> 00:29:19,320
Speaker 4: he he just did.

625
00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:21,760
Speaker 2: You're never going to get this. His name is Ernest

626
00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:22,600
Speaker 2: Mick Sorely.

627
00:29:23,440 --> 00:29:24,920
Speaker 4: But does he say the name in the song?

628
00:29:25,040 --> 00:29:25,520
Speaker 2: I don't believe.

629
00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:27,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, he calls him the captain. Right.

630
00:29:27,480 --> 00:29:30,840
Speaker 3: At seven ten pm, one last communication was heard from

631
00:29:30,880 --> 00:29:32,360
Speaker 3: the captain of the Fitzgerald.

632
00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:32,920
Speaker 2: What did he.

633
00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:36,440
Speaker 4: Say, Uh, well, I know they've got.

634
00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:38,000
Speaker 2: Some options if you want multiple choice.

635
00:29:38,040 --> 00:29:40,480
Speaker 1: Well, it's not a it's not we'd have made Whitefish

636
00:29:40,480 --> 00:29:42,680
Speaker 1: Bay if we had to put fifteen more miles behind us.

637
00:29:42,960 --> 00:29:44,640
Speaker 1: And now when he says that in the song that

638
00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:46,880
Speaker 1: they no What are the options?

639
00:29:47,360 --> 00:29:49,560
Speaker 3: Tell my wife, I love her, I don't think we're

640
00:29:49,600 --> 00:29:51,960
Speaker 3: going to make it. We're holding our own, or the

641
00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:53,240
Speaker 3: bow is underwater.

642
00:29:53,920 --> 00:29:56,760
Speaker 4: This is not in the song either, right, I don't

643
00:29:56,760 --> 00:29:57,080
Speaker 4: think so.

644
00:29:57,400 --> 00:29:57,600
Speaker 3: Yeah?

645
00:29:57,600 --> 00:29:59,360
Speaker 1: I love You're asking me these questions as though I've

646
00:29:59,360 --> 00:30:02,280
Speaker 1: clearly told you I know the song. Anything it's in

647
00:30:02,320 --> 00:30:04,320
Speaker 1: the song, I might be able to have a puncher's

648
00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:06,640
Speaker 1: chance at uh. What were my options?

649
00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:06,800
Speaker 3: Cav?

650
00:30:06,840 --> 00:30:08,600
Speaker 4: I'm going to do a phone a friend with keV here.

651
00:30:08,960 --> 00:30:11,080
Speaker 3: Tell my wife, I love her, I don't think we're

652
00:30:11,120 --> 00:30:14,840
Speaker 3: gonna make it, We're holding our own, the bow is underwater.

653
00:30:15,320 --> 00:30:17,880
Speaker 4: And that was the last communications communication, keV. What do

654
00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:18,320
Speaker 4: you think?

655
00:30:18,840 --> 00:30:19,560
Speaker 5: I have no idea.

656
00:30:19,720 --> 00:30:22,000
Speaker 4: Oh that was a huge help, thank you. What was

657
00:30:22,040 --> 00:30:22,520
Speaker 4: the answer?

658
00:30:22,800 --> 00:30:23,760
Speaker 2: We're holding our own?

659
00:30:23,840 --> 00:30:24,240
Speaker 8: Okay?

660
00:30:24,600 --> 00:30:25,000
Speaker 2: Okay.

661
00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:27,880
Speaker 3: When the storm started getting bad, the captain headed for

662
00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:32,360
Speaker 3: safety of Whitefish Bay. How far was the Fitzgerald from

663
00:30:32,400 --> 00:30:34,200
Speaker 3: safety when it sank well?

664
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Speaker 1: In the song, he says, we'd have made Whitefish Bay

665
00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:39,440
Speaker 1: if we'd have put fifteen more miles behind us.

666
00:30:40,560 --> 00:30:42,240
Speaker 2: It's not fifteen miles, okay?

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Speaker 4: How far is it? Seventeen miles? Okay?

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Speaker 3: How many lives were lost aboard the Fitzgerald ring twenty

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Speaker 3: nine times, right, yea, it would be twenty nine people tour.

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Speaker 2: False.

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Speaker 3: There is a memorial service held every year in honor

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Speaker 3: of the men who died on the Edmund Fitzgerald.

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Speaker 1: Well, in the song, they're in a hall, So I

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Speaker 1: don't know if that's every year or not, though I'll

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Speaker 1: say true, true.

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Speaker 4: Okay, last question.

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Speaker 3: One piece of the Edmund Fitzgerald was brought up from

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Speaker 3: the wreckage as a memorial to the families of the

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Speaker 3: men who were lost.

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Speaker 4: What was it, h I'll go with the anchor.

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Speaker 2: Nope, it was the bell.

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Speaker 4: Oh the bell?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well it rang twenty nine times.

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Speaker 4: Very good.

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Speaker 3: So the anniversary fiftieth anniversary on Monday, very good. Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Are you gonna like have some sort of like event

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Speaker 4: at your house.

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Speaker 2: Or I'll listen to the song.

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Speaker 4: The song that's wrong.

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Speaker 2: Right, Hammer's gonna join us next. It's ninety three WYBC.

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Speaker 4: Jason Hammer wont to have the Hammer and Nigel Show

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Speaker 4: joined us? Now, Hello, Hello.

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Speaker 6: Hearing this Michael Jackson song remind me of a segment

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Speaker 6: we had yesterday on the show. So I guess they're

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Speaker 6: making a biopic. That's called is it iopic or biopick

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Speaker 6: pick biopick on Michael Jackson, and I think it's like

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Speaker 6: his nephew or some relevtive.

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Speaker 4: This playing in the role sounds just like him.

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Speaker 2: Jafar Jackson is his name, right.

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Speaker 6: So I'm curious to see how that would do at

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Speaker 6: the box office. Compared to say, the recently flopped Bruce

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Speaker 6: Springsteen movie.

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Speaker 1: Well, we talked about it's the Springsteen didn't flop because

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Speaker 1: of him. It flopped because it's a stupid if a

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Speaker 1: guy's life, the stupid thing to pick, and it's a

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Speaker 1: it's ridiculous. Nobody was gonna go see that other than

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Speaker 1: the fans. I think Michael Jackson thing with Casey, I

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Speaker 1: think it'll do well. Although I because he has he

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Speaker 1: has a broader fan base, right and he he's more

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Speaker 1: internationally known, I feel more influential.

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Speaker 2: I could say yeah.

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Speaker 1: I mean, look, Springsteen's National Acclaim was really one album.

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Speaker 1: It's one of the biggest albums of all time. The

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Speaker 1: tour was arguably the biggest pre Taylor Swift tour of

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Speaker 1: all time. But that's what most people the eighties know

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Speaker 1: him for. Is born in the USA. Michael Jackson, he

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Speaker 1: was you know, famous when he was nine years old,

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Speaker 1: and it was all.

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Speaker 4: The way, you know, even till the.

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Speaker 6: End, and you will get some of these successful biopics.

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Speaker 6: There are layers to the story, right, There's a lot

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Speaker 6: of layers to what's going on with Michael from Jackson five,

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Speaker 6: relationship with his family turning white, the allegations, you know,

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Speaker 6: all that kind of stuff, the death doctor Murray. I

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Speaker 6: don't know if they get into that. Look at the

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Speaker 6: n W eight movie. That was really good, all those

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Speaker 6: big personalities, big egos like Bruce.

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Speaker 4: Okay, you're right.

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Speaker 6: There was an amazing you know album two album run there,

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Speaker 6: but other than that, wasn't really interesting.

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Speaker 1: And he's personally boring, like to most people, he's like

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Speaker 1: That's part of why I loved him is it was

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Speaker 1: a great role model scandal free. Never did drugs, but

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Speaker 1: like people want to, they want the smoke when they

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Speaker 1: go to the movies.

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Speaker 3: Man, Well, with Michael Jackson, you also have all these

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Speaker 3: ancillary characters Seuil McCaulay, Culkin, Brooks, Shields, Lisa, Marie Presley,

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Speaker 3: Quincy Jones, less Right, Diana Ross like all these other

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Speaker 3: people that you could bring in.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean Bruce's life. He just wandered around his hometown.

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Speaker 4: That's too bad. I should read a song about that.

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Speaker 4: So he lost your job?

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Speaker 6: Man, low Key Rob's Bruce impression is pretty good.

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Speaker 4: You don't do it enough. I make you do it every.

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Speaker 6: Christmas when I want you to be Bruce, you know,

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Speaker 6: talking to the crowds.

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Speaker 4: So good.

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Speaker 6: Big news happened earlier today was announced that Trivial Pursuit

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Speaker 6: and Battleship have been elected to the National Toy Hall.

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Speaker 6: So pound for pound though, would you rather play any

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Speaker 6: one of those board games or the Hammer and Nigel

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Speaker 4: Move over Monopoly this Christmas?

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Speaker 6: the dice, and follow the instructions on the corresponding cards

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Speaker 6: like this.

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Speaker 4: Look, Dad, you landed on lud nude due to the news.

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Speaker 4: I sure did. Jimmy now here, help me get these

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Speaker 4: underwear off.

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Speaker 6: family game night.

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Speaker 4: Okay, Mom, you landed on booze news. I love you

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Speaker 4: now past mom of that case of old Milwaukee.

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Speaker 6: And if you order in the next ten minutes, we'll

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Speaker 6: even throw in another game for free.

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Speaker 6: Left Food, Rest, Left Food.

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Speaker 2: Red.

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Speaker 6: Operators are standing by Ron now trying to I heard

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Speaker 6: I don't remember participating in that, but I'm pretty sure

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Speaker 6: that's me.

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Speaker 4: I'm talking to John Herrick, isn't it?

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Speaker 1: No, that was Rob Conna's Oh, that's Rob conn And

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Speaker 1: I was like, is that me? I was trying to

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Speaker 1: think of who was still here? Different because I heard Daisy,

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Speaker 1: I heard John Herrick, I heard Madison McGill.

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Speaker 4: Madison Kill. That's where I was trying to think of who.

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Speaker 4: I was like, is that me? I don't know it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like I don't remember participating in that.

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Speaker 4: That's one of the that's an oldie. That's an old

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Speaker 4: old classic.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: That's uh, that's what you do. What are you doing

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Speaker 4: this afternoon? What's coming on?

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Speaker 6: So it's beer sample Friday, So we're gonna have a

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Speaker 6: good time. Uh merr from a practical Jolly murrz in

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Speaker 6: studio with us at four thirty is he is he

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Speaker 6: in town doing a comedy show tonight?

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Speaker 4: And tomorrow at Helium. That's great and uh.

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Speaker 6: We'll have some bargaments and uh man, we're gonna get

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Speaker 6: after it.

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Speaker 4: Let's have some fun.

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Speaker 2: Thanks Sammer, you're listening to Kendall and Casey. It is

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Speaker 2: ninety three w IBC.

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Speaker 8: It's a