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Jim Merritt, 35 00:01:45,040 --> 00:01:47,760 Speaker 2: Hello Robert, and you know him as the owner operator 36 00:01:47,760 --> 00:01:49,960 Speaker 2: of India Politics dot orgon bell keep Shabaz. 37 00:01:50,000 --> 00:01:52,760 Speaker 3: Hello is the PG version is the PG thirteen versions, 38 00:01:52,800 --> 00:01:54,760 Speaker 3: the R versus the NSFW verse. 39 00:01:54,880 --> 00:01:57,360 Speaker 2: You just sit over there and behavior yourself and don't 40 00:01:57,360 --> 00:01:59,680 Speaker 2: do anything that's gonna get us in trouble with the 41 00:01:59,760 --> 00:02:07,000 Speaker 2: very alphabet government, a federal government bodies that oversee this 42 00:02:07,400 --> 00:02:11,200 Speaker 2: fabulous program. Let's let's I mean, look, there's two major 43 00:02:11,200 --> 00:02:13,560 Speaker 2: issues we got to get to today. Let's start with 44 00:02:13,639 --> 00:02:17,680 Speaker 2: the first one, which is that numerous media outlets across 45 00:02:17,720 --> 00:02:22,040 Speaker 2: Central Indiana, State of Indiana our reporting abdul what we've 46 00:02:22,040 --> 00:02:24,280 Speaker 2: been saying for months now, which is that a grand 47 00:02:24,360 --> 00:02:28,000 Speaker 2: jury is looking at sixteenth Is that when we started 48 00:02:28,000 --> 00:02:28,639 Speaker 2: saying that. 49 00:02:28,800 --> 00:02:31,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, because that is when we had our interview with 50 00:02:31,720 --> 00:02:34,240 Speaker 3: Aaron Sheridan, the former special advisor the government to Lietend 51 00:02:34,240 --> 00:02:37,799 Speaker 3: the Governor m could Beck with on our program, and 52 00:02:37,840 --> 00:02:40,560 Speaker 3: we kind of talked about what was going on and 53 00:02:41,080 --> 00:02:44,960 Speaker 3: about possible go some ployments, some other things, and next 54 00:02:45,040 --> 00:02:47,960 Speaker 3: you know, then we were wrong. We're fake news. No 55 00:02:47,960 --> 00:02:50,160 Speaker 3: one listens to WBC aymar and blah blah blah blah. 56 00:02:50,200 --> 00:02:52,680 Speaker 3: The next thing, you know, imagine that our grand jury. 57 00:02:52,720 --> 00:02:55,000 Speaker 3: We were right. And here's a scary thing. We're both 58 00:02:55,080 --> 00:02:56,920 Speaker 3: right about the exact same thing. So know that's not 59 00:02:56,919 --> 00:02:57,959 Speaker 3: going to end well for people. 60 00:02:58,000 --> 00:03:02,320 Speaker 2: Well, yeah, like the okay, so headlines are that a 61 00:03:02,360 --> 00:03:04,800 Speaker 2: grand jury is indeed looking into the office of Lieutenant 62 00:03:04,840 --> 00:03:08,320 Speaker 2: Governor Micah beck With. According to the Indie Star other places, 63 00:03:08,320 --> 00:03:13,040 Speaker 2: it relates to ghost employment and artificial intelligence pornography. 64 00:03:13,160 --> 00:03:13,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, which are. 65 00:03:13,760 --> 00:03:18,079 Speaker 2: Basically the things that we said, because okay, Jim, almost 66 00:03:18,080 --> 00:03:20,440 Speaker 2: start with you and then I'll go over abduel. This 67 00:03:20,560 --> 00:03:23,200 Speaker 2: was always so ridiculous to me because it's not even 68 00:03:23,200 --> 00:03:25,240 Speaker 2: the issue of whether they're looking into it or not. 69 00:03:25,600 --> 00:03:27,640 Speaker 2: It's that everybody knew this is going on. I know 70 00:03:27,800 --> 00:03:30,640 Speaker 2: multiple people who have talked to the Marion County Prosecutor's office, 71 00:03:31,200 --> 00:03:34,160 Speaker 2: and the idea that the Mica beck With the Lieutenant 72 00:03:34,200 --> 00:03:38,200 Speaker 2: governor did the me so stupid routine. And not only that, 73 00:03:38,280 --> 00:03:41,880 Speaker 2: but then they were basically trying to be little anybody 74 00:03:41,920 --> 00:03:43,880 Speaker 2: who was like, this is going on. We're not saying 75 00:03:43,880 --> 00:03:46,880 Speaker 2: anyone's getting indicted. We're not saying anyone's getting convicted. We 76 00:03:46,920 --> 00:03:50,000 Speaker 2: simply said it is patently obvious this is taking place. 77 00:03:50,600 --> 00:03:54,720 Speaker 2: It's another example of him being deceptive and dishonest. 78 00:03:55,160 --> 00:04:01,480 Speaker 4: And this just got serious. I think that there's gotta 79 00:04:01,480 --> 00:04:04,600 Speaker 4: be more eyeballs on this, more chatter about this. 80 00:04:05,120 --> 00:04:05,360 Speaker 3: Now. 81 00:04:05,640 --> 00:04:09,280 Speaker 4: It's been very other than you two, it's been very, 82 00:04:09,480 --> 00:04:13,200 Speaker 4: very quiet, and the governor ought to be concerned, should 83 00:04:13,240 --> 00:04:18,400 Speaker 4: be concerned. Lieutenant governor has to be in that bucket. 84 00:04:18,640 --> 00:04:25,159 Speaker 4: And I think that Republicans around the state, and you know, 85 00:04:25,200 --> 00:04:28,640 Speaker 4: we talk about I talk about the Central Indiana bubble, 86 00:04:28,800 --> 00:04:31,360 Speaker 4: the fifteen to twenty two counties that we hit. 87 00:04:33,720 --> 00:04:35,240 Speaker 3: That bubble just got a whole lot bigger. 88 00:04:35,240 --> 00:04:38,720 Speaker 4: I think that bubble just burst. And I think this 89 00:04:39,040 --> 00:04:43,719 Speaker 4: is very, very serious. And I and I'm not I 90 00:04:43,760 --> 00:04:47,120 Speaker 4: don't know how to predict or or even have a 91 00:04:47,160 --> 00:04:52,800 Speaker 4: crystal ball, but indictments could be coming, who knows. But 92 00:04:53,400 --> 00:04:58,039 Speaker 4: it's just it's just a you know, you know, being 93 00:04:58,080 --> 00:05:02,520 Speaker 4: a being a deep red state. Uh that may just 94 00:05:03,000 --> 00:05:10,000 Speaker 4: uh we are doing we Republicans are. You're we've been 95 00:05:10,040 --> 00:05:10,920 Speaker 4: on easy streets. 96 00:05:11,000 --> 00:05:12,200 Speaker 3: You're you're your own worst enemy. 97 00:05:12,360 --> 00:05:15,000 Speaker 4: Yes, and and this is how this is how you 98 00:05:15,040 --> 00:05:19,440 Speaker 4: topple yourself. And I'm very concerned as a as a Republican, 99 00:05:19,800 --> 00:05:22,200 Speaker 4: and I think many of you out there should be too. 100 00:05:22,640 --> 00:05:25,279 Speaker 2: You know that that's again what's ridiculous to me, if duel, 101 00:05:25,760 --> 00:05:29,240 Speaker 2: But looking into this, it doesn't mean anybody did anything. 102 00:05:29,720 --> 00:05:31,799 Speaker 2: But when you can't even be honest with what everybody 103 00:05:31,920 --> 00:05:35,240 Speaker 2: knows is going on, you just say, what else are 104 00:05:35,240 --> 00:05:36,200 Speaker 2: you lying to me about? 105 00:05:36,560 --> 00:05:40,040 Speaker 3: And instead of uh doing that approach if I Rebecca 106 00:05:40,080 --> 00:05:41,680 Speaker 3: always said, it was like, no, what we don't We 107 00:05:41,720 --> 00:05:43,640 Speaker 3: don't believe we did anything wrong. We never intentionally did 108 00:05:43,640 --> 00:05:46,200 Speaker 3: anything wrong. We welcome this investigation to clear our name. 109 00:05:46,240 --> 00:05:49,000 Speaker 3: We're fully willing to cooperate with whoever law enforcement, legal 110 00:05:49,040 --> 00:05:50,960 Speaker 3: authorities that we need to cooperate with. That's all you 111 00:05:51,000 --> 00:05:54,240 Speaker 3: got to say. And that's it. But that's not Maca. 112 00:05:54,279 --> 00:05:57,320 Speaker 3: Beck was saying. Maca has a combative personality. No, has 113 00:05:57,360 --> 00:05:59,120 Speaker 3: that sort of music man wants to show off and 114 00:05:59,160 --> 00:06:01,240 Speaker 3: all the with the pompa do and slick hair and 115 00:06:01,279 --> 00:06:03,440 Speaker 3: all the other fever fever promaswami look and all that 116 00:06:03,520 --> 00:06:06,839 Speaker 3: other crap. It's okay, fine, but but here's the thing. 117 00:06:07,160 --> 00:06:09,640 Speaker 3: When you, when you spend your days making a living 118 00:06:10,080 --> 00:06:12,560 Speaker 3: point out the moral shortcomings of other people, do not 119 00:06:12,600 --> 00:06:14,840 Speaker 3: be surprised if that stick that you throwu people eventually 120 00:06:14,839 --> 00:06:16,960 Speaker 3: turns into a boomerang. And that's what this has done. 121 00:06:17,080 --> 00:06:21,359 Speaker 4: Well, no knowing that rob the the the idea of 122 00:06:21,480 --> 00:06:26,240 Speaker 4: having of Micah actually having a safety net. Uh, it's 123 00:06:26,480 --> 00:06:30,840 Speaker 4: like quicksand to mix metaphors there because uh, he's got 124 00:06:30,839 --> 00:06:34,599 Speaker 4: friends in the legislature, but they're they're it's not a 125 00:06:34,720 --> 00:06:38,839 Speaker 4: robust army. And and in politics you need your friends 126 00:06:38,839 --> 00:06:41,480 Speaker 4: to catch you, and I'm just not sure that they're there. 127 00:06:41,560 --> 00:06:43,400 Speaker 3: I would say at this point he has his friend 128 00:06:43,600 --> 00:06:45,080 Speaker 3: in the legislature, not friends. 129 00:06:45,279 --> 00:06:46,279 Speaker 4: Well you make my point. 130 00:06:47,000 --> 00:06:52,520 Speaker 2: Oh okay, so ed And it comes back to now 131 00:06:52,560 --> 00:06:55,960 Speaker 2: everything else you start questioning, right because he was just 132 00:06:55,960 --> 00:06:59,240 Speaker 2: just so aggressive, you know, when he would get asked 133 00:06:59,240 --> 00:07:05,039 Speaker 2: about this, and now it goes back to hey, things 134 00:07:05,080 --> 00:07:06,640 Speaker 2: like how did you end up at Game three of 135 00:07:06,680 --> 00:07:09,400 Speaker 2: the NBA Finals with a high profile known felon You 136 00:07:09,440 --> 00:07:12,520 Speaker 2: can't tell, you know, tele acoherent consistent story on that 137 00:07:12,840 --> 00:07:15,840 Speaker 2: the car. We caught him in numerous lives about the 138 00:07:15,880 --> 00:07:19,840 Speaker 2: taxpayer funded car. Like it's just it's it's all of 139 00:07:19,880 --> 00:07:21,800 Speaker 2: this stuff that you say, you know, you just can't 140 00:07:21,800 --> 00:07:24,600 Speaker 2: get a straight answer from this guy. And then it's 141 00:07:24,640 --> 00:07:26,520 Speaker 2: always the pattern to it. I saw this yesterday with 142 00:07:26,560 --> 00:07:30,960 Speaker 2: the grand jury stuff where the Micah Orbit people immediately 143 00:07:31,800 --> 00:07:35,080 Speaker 2: blocked to well, it's because of his faith. Well, they're 144 00:07:35,120 --> 00:07:37,720 Speaker 2: coming after him because he's outspoken. Well I didn't know 145 00:07:38,600 --> 00:07:42,280 Speaker 2: they're looking into this, and and they're looking into this 146 00:07:42,360 --> 00:07:45,720 Speaker 2: because they, being the Marion Kenny Prosecutor's office, at least 147 00:07:45,720 --> 00:07:49,520 Speaker 2: maybe on some level they have seen information related to 148 00:07:49,560 --> 00:07:52,800 Speaker 2: how that office was conducting itself that they want to 149 00:07:52,840 --> 00:07:56,800 Speaker 2: get more information on. That's it like that, You're not 150 00:07:56,880 --> 00:08:00,840 Speaker 2: a victim here. This is big boy, adult blood politics, 151 00:08:01,240 --> 00:08:03,560 Speaker 2: and in this case, it's related to how you're running 152 00:08:03,640 --> 00:08:04,280 Speaker 2: your office. 153 00:08:04,520 --> 00:08:07,280 Speaker 3: And another part of this too is uh. And I 154 00:08:07,320 --> 00:08:10,520 Speaker 3: have to say we here at the WBC archives, we 155 00:08:10,560 --> 00:08:12,400 Speaker 3: can go back and find the interview that Michael did 156 00:08:12,400 --> 00:08:15,680 Speaker 3: with Hammer and Nigel that day that the week the 157 00:08:15,800 --> 00:08:18,560 Speaker 3: story broke, because I think it was like a Friday, Yeah, 158 00:08:18,640 --> 00:08:20,280 Speaker 3: and he went on and how we were wrong and 159 00:08:20,320 --> 00:08:22,360 Speaker 3: fake news and blah blah, no one reads the cheet 160 00:08:22,360 --> 00:08:24,840 Speaker 3: sheet and as all crap and blah blah, blah blah. 161 00:08:24,840 --> 00:08:27,400 Speaker 3: I would love to go back up, but I'll take 162 00:08:27,440 --> 00:08:29,400 Speaker 3: famous last words for one hundred, mister Trebek. 163 00:08:30,880 --> 00:08:33,520 Speaker 4: Well that you know the defense that you were talking 164 00:08:33,559 --> 00:08:38,120 Speaker 4: about and in resorting to faith, that's so weak and 165 00:08:38,360 --> 00:08:42,160 Speaker 4: and uh and Abdul's right to come across and said 166 00:08:42,400 --> 00:08:46,160 Speaker 4: you will co operate, and you know, uh, the the 167 00:08:46,160 --> 00:08:50,920 Speaker 4: Marion County Prosecutor we know is an incredibly powerful office, 168 00:08:51,440 --> 00:08:55,439 Speaker 4: and but we we and we also know that we 169 00:08:55,600 --> 00:08:57,880 Speaker 4: throw a lot of bricks at that office because of 170 00:08:58,400 --> 00:09:01,959 Speaker 4: crime and Marion County. But they would not be doing 171 00:09:02,000 --> 00:09:04,720 Speaker 4: what they're doing if they if there wasn't fire behind 172 00:09:04,720 --> 00:09:05,200 Speaker 4: that smoke. 173 00:09:05,480 --> 00:09:08,280 Speaker 3: Because when you I had to say, I don't know 174 00:09:08,320 --> 00:09:10,760 Speaker 3: like you, this term go after an elected official. But 175 00:09:10,760 --> 00:09:13,480 Speaker 3: when elected official is the subject of an investigation, a 176 00:09:13,520 --> 00:09:16,760 Speaker 3: whole nother different ball, different work works. Protocols take go 177 00:09:16,800 --> 00:09:18,800 Speaker 3: into effect to make sure and particularly when when he 178 00:09:18,840 --> 00:09:22,320 Speaker 3: got a Democratic prosecutor, but a Republican, a publican elected official, 179 00:09:22,360 --> 00:09:25,559 Speaker 3: and a state wide elected official at that So I 180 00:09:25,600 --> 00:09:28,360 Speaker 3: would I would guarantee you that Ryan Meres right now 181 00:09:28,600 --> 00:09:30,559 Speaker 3: is dying all his eyes and crossing all his tee's 182 00:09:30,600 --> 00:09:31,800 Speaker 3: and if they do come back with some type of 183 00:09:31,800 --> 00:09:33,400 Speaker 3: indictment is going to be air tight. 184 00:09:33,559 --> 00:09:35,760 Speaker 2: But they kept up the bull crap even in this 185 00:09:35,840 --> 00:09:39,920 Speaker 2: Indie Star article. So his spokesperson, I mean, they just 186 00:09:40,040 --> 00:09:45,000 Speaker 2: never like this quote active grand juries are confidential. Therefore 187 00:09:45,080 --> 00:09:47,760 Speaker 2: the office has no knowledge of any of this. Stop 188 00:09:48,480 --> 00:09:52,600 Speaker 2: yes you do. Clearly the Indie Star had knowledge of it. 189 00:09:52,640 --> 00:09:56,960 Speaker 2: There's documents that they got. Here's the documents. Stop acting 190 00:09:57,200 --> 00:10:02,480 Speaker 2: like it's you, it's your office. I know people. Micah 191 00:10:02,480 --> 00:10:05,559 Speaker 2: has mentioned it too. That's the other thing. There's a 192 00:10:05,559 --> 00:10:06,960 Speaker 2: whole bunch of people that are just sick of his 193 00:10:07,040 --> 00:10:08,520 Speaker 2: crap and all they got to earn a living, and 194 00:10:08,520 --> 00:10:10,760 Speaker 2: they got to, you know, exist in the orbit of 195 00:10:11,000 --> 00:10:14,280 Speaker 2: politics down at the state House. They're not. They're sick 196 00:10:14,360 --> 00:10:18,120 Speaker 2: of it. And and yet you know, here's another example 197 00:10:18,120 --> 00:10:20,400 Speaker 2: that was great. I think it was with Hammer and Nigel, 198 00:10:20,480 --> 00:10:22,360 Speaker 2: or maybe it was with Woa. I can't remember. Maybe 199 00:10:22,360 --> 00:10:25,439 Speaker 2: it's both. He tries to deny that he knows who 200 00:10:25,440 --> 00:10:28,240 Speaker 2: Tom Labianco is, the guy who initially broke the AI 201 00:10:28,520 --> 00:10:33,920 Speaker 2: porn story, and Labyanco is like, no, I spent a 202 00:10:33,920 --> 00:10:36,240 Speaker 2: whole day with the guy, going around the state in 203 00:10:36,360 --> 00:10:39,840 Speaker 2: his car with him. And then he tried to claim, oh, 204 00:10:40,280 --> 00:10:42,920 Speaker 2: he being Micah, I found out about the I porn 205 00:10:42,960 --> 00:10:45,960 Speaker 2: story from Lobyancle. Lobianco's no, he told me he found 206 00:10:45,960 --> 00:10:48,000 Speaker 2: out for some guy in the Treasurer's office. It's just 207 00:10:48,000 --> 00:10:50,679 Speaker 2: like he can't keep his he being Micah, can't keep 208 00:10:50,720 --> 00:10:53,079 Speaker 2: his story straight because he told so much bull crap. 209 00:10:53,440 --> 00:10:56,280 Speaker 3: If you are going and when I go so far 210 00:10:56,280 --> 00:10:57,880 Speaker 3: as I said that mister beckwith lied. I will say 211 00:10:57,920 --> 00:11:00,440 Speaker 3: that his statement is inconsistent with the facts. However, if 212 00:11:00,440 --> 00:11:02,800 Speaker 3: you are going to lie, it helps if you tell 213 00:11:02,800 --> 00:11:06,240 Speaker 3: the same lie consistently, right and over and over and 214 00:11:06,280 --> 00:11:08,600 Speaker 3: over again, because see, that's that's funny. Truth is kind 215 00:11:08,600 --> 00:11:11,559 Speaker 3: of a funny thing. You have to remember it. That's right, right, right, 216 00:11:11,600 --> 00:11:15,160 Speaker 3: And you know, in the coming days. And I don't 217 00:11:15,200 --> 00:11:17,679 Speaker 3: see much of this right now, but it'll be interesting 218 00:11:17,720 --> 00:11:22,200 Speaker 3: to see you if if the Republican Party comes forward 219 00:11:22,240 --> 00:11:27,000 Speaker 3: and and and and protects Micah or or is is 220 00:11:27,040 --> 00:11:30,920 Speaker 3: he on his own being a being a Republican and 221 00:11:30,960 --> 00:11:34,360 Speaker 3: somebody that was in a chairman of a county organization. 222 00:11:35,120 --> 00:11:38,280 Speaker 3: I'm stunned at my own behavior here that I'm not 223 00:11:38,440 --> 00:11:42,480 Speaker 3: saying that you know, he's innocent, he's innocent, or you know, 224 00:11:42,559 --> 00:11:46,800 Speaker 3: the office is innocent, because you know, you got to 225 00:11:46,840 --> 00:11:49,280 Speaker 3: look at the tea leaves and and that's what I did. 226 00:11:49,559 --> 00:11:54,760 Speaker 3: And and right now it's very difficult to defend him. 227 00:11:54,840 --> 00:11:57,120 Speaker 2: All right, Well, let's move on to the next, uh, 228 00:11:57,920 --> 00:12:01,840 Speaker 2: the next part of the program. F W Yeah, okay, 229 00:12:01,960 --> 00:12:06,480 Speaker 2: So and don't read that proble cause affidavit. Well, look, 230 00:12:06,559 --> 00:12:08,760 Speaker 2: I think we would be remiss if we didn't mention this. 231 00:12:08,840 --> 00:12:10,760 Speaker 2: I don't think the things are in any way connected, 232 00:12:11,160 --> 00:12:12,800 Speaker 2: but obviously I think it's a story of duel. You 233 00:12:12,800 --> 00:12:15,800 Speaker 2: did an interview yesterday with Tom Labianco about this that 234 00:12:16,360 --> 00:12:20,440 Speaker 2: Nathan Peter Now, who is the lead pastor at Life Church. 235 00:12:20,440 --> 00:12:22,360 Speaker 2: In full disclosure, I go to Life Church now that 236 00:12:22,440 --> 00:12:25,400 Speaker 2: it's a big it's a big church. There's campuses all 237 00:12:25,440 --> 00:12:28,360 Speaker 2: over central Indiana. I go to Eagle Creek. They're very 238 00:12:28,400 --> 00:12:32,640 Speaker 2: disconnected in terms of like Micah doesn't exist at the 239 00:12:32,640 --> 00:12:35,040 Speaker 2: Eagle Creek k Like all this stuff doesn't exist where 240 00:12:35,080 --> 00:12:36,920 Speaker 2: I go. So I want to kind of get people 241 00:12:36,960 --> 00:12:38,920 Speaker 2: a background on this, but I just wanted to put 242 00:12:38,960 --> 00:12:41,559 Speaker 2: that out there. But Nathan Peternell, who oversees all the 243 00:12:41,600 --> 00:12:45,800 Speaker 2: campuses at Life Church, his son was arrested. His adult son, 244 00:12:45,960 --> 00:12:53,600 Speaker 2: twenty four years old, was arrested related to pedophilia, child pornography, 245 00:12:55,400 --> 00:13:01,480 Speaker 2: various charges and the problem cause affidavit is horrible. It's 246 00:13:01,520 --> 00:13:04,640 Speaker 2: it's horrific, really bad about what this guy is alleged 247 00:13:04,679 --> 00:13:05,160 Speaker 2: to have done. 248 00:13:05,280 --> 00:13:06,840 Speaker 3: I lived in Europe for four years. I'll see some 249 00:13:06,880 --> 00:13:10,240 Speaker 3: really weird stuff. This is like I can't look at 250 00:13:10,240 --> 00:13:14,280 Speaker 3: this anymore. Yeah, and so now I and this is 251 00:13:14,400 --> 00:13:15,880 Speaker 3: we get into this. I don't know if this is 252 00:13:15,920 --> 00:13:19,480 Speaker 3: fair or not, because look, I want to try. While 253 00:13:19,480 --> 00:13:23,520 Speaker 3: I have very strong feelings about Micah, I don't think 254 00:13:23,520 --> 00:13:27,680 Speaker 3: you get in any way not indict not in a 255 00:13:27,720 --> 00:13:31,199 Speaker 3: literal sense, but but hold a guy accountable for something 256 00:13:31,240 --> 00:13:34,080 Speaker 3: that So Nathan Peternell was a is a very close 257 00:13:34,080 --> 00:13:36,360 Speaker 3: friend of Micah beck With. He hired Mike at Life 258 00:13:36,480 --> 00:13:39,160 Speaker 3: Church where Mica is is a pastor, still a pastor, 259 00:13:39,200 --> 00:13:43,559 Speaker 3: even as he's serving his lieutenant governor and his advisor. 260 00:13:43,920 --> 00:13:46,920 Speaker 3: They're very close. People are trying to link this together. 261 00:13:47,679 --> 00:13:51,240 Speaker 2: I don't think that's necessarily fair because you can't. You 262 00:13:51,240 --> 00:13:53,480 Speaker 2: can't always even hold people accountable for what their kids do, 263 00:13:53,679 --> 00:13:55,920 Speaker 2: much less the kid of a friend. 264 00:13:55,640 --> 00:13:58,920 Speaker 3: Of yours, you see. And I agree with you with 265 00:13:58,920 --> 00:14:01,640 Speaker 3: that to a point. However, here's where I think the 266 00:14:02,400 --> 00:14:04,880 Speaker 3: beck With the Beckworth has a role in this. MICHAEH. 267 00:14:04,880 --> 00:14:07,120 Speaker 3: Beckworth has made a living when he was on the 268 00:14:07,160 --> 00:14:10,360 Speaker 3: Hamilton County Library Board about you know, these are interproperate books. 269 00:14:10,360 --> 00:14:12,760 Speaker 3: They're grooming people and lgbt P and all this, and 270 00:14:12,960 --> 00:14:14,480 Speaker 3: they're doing all this grooming and they want them lester 271 00:14:14,559 --> 00:14:16,439 Speaker 3: children and blah, blah bah blah, and do all this stuff. Okay, 272 00:14:17,160 --> 00:14:19,520 Speaker 3: that's fine, you can say that because you have a 273 00:14:19,600 --> 00:14:22,960 Speaker 3: right to your opinion. However, be careful what you throw 274 00:14:22,960 --> 00:14:24,720 Speaker 3: out there, because then when it comes back and it's 275 00:14:24,720 --> 00:14:27,520 Speaker 3: somebody who's tied to Michaeh Beckworth, although it's like two 276 00:14:27,520 --> 00:14:30,360 Speaker 3: degrees of separation has supposed to six degrees, I think 277 00:14:30,400 --> 00:14:32,280 Speaker 3: that's where you know Beckwith comes in. 278 00:14:33,000 --> 00:14:37,160 Speaker 4: Well, it's you know, it's sick and I haven't read 279 00:14:37,160 --> 00:14:41,240 Speaker 4: what you've read and don't Yeah, I don't plan on. 280 00:14:41,280 --> 00:14:42,600 Speaker 3: It, Jim, but turn your hair white. 281 00:14:42,800 --> 00:14:48,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's on its way. But the the whole idea 282 00:14:48,720 --> 00:14:52,960 Speaker 4: and the guilt by association, uh, I think that's pretty 283 00:14:53,120 --> 00:14:56,840 Speaker 4: I think it's weak. I understand what Abdul's saying about 284 00:14:57,200 --> 00:15:02,160 Speaker 4: about Micah raising the bar on on behavior and whatnot, 285 00:15:02,240 --> 00:15:06,040 Speaker 4: but this is so difficult to talk about because it's 286 00:15:06,120 --> 00:15:09,720 Speaker 4: just it offends me that people actually do this. I 287 00:15:09,760 --> 00:15:14,200 Speaker 4: know it is done, but it's just it's just hard 288 00:15:14,240 --> 00:15:15,160 Speaker 4: to talk about for me. 289 00:15:15,440 --> 00:15:16,360 Speaker 3: Okay, difficult. 290 00:15:16,520 --> 00:15:21,120 Speaker 2: So one of the things that I do think Micah 291 00:15:21,200 --> 00:15:24,520 Speaker 2: has to do that he has not done, and he's 292 00:15:24,560 --> 00:15:27,040 Speaker 2: done this before, not to equate these two issues, but 293 00:15:27,120 --> 00:15:29,120 Speaker 2: He did this thing with the property tax issue too, 294 00:15:29,400 --> 00:15:33,960 Speaker 2: where he was all gun ho until Braun made his choice, 295 00:15:34,000 --> 00:15:36,360 Speaker 2: and then he just disappeared for days, right, and then 296 00:15:36,400 --> 00:15:38,040 Speaker 2: by the time he finally came out and made a statement, 297 00:15:38,200 --> 00:15:40,840 Speaker 2: then it was this mealy mouthed thing on Hammer and 298 00:15:40,920 --> 00:15:43,240 Speaker 2: Nigel that people were outraged over because it sounded like 299 00:15:43,280 --> 00:15:45,080 Speaker 2: he was supporting the bill. And then like two days 300 00:15:45,160 --> 00:15:46,800 Speaker 2: later he's like, no, no, no, you should be to the bill. 301 00:15:46,840 --> 00:15:49,160 Speaker 2: It's like it's been five or six days, dude, that 302 00:15:49,200 --> 00:15:52,960 Speaker 2: ship is sailed. That you missed your opportunity. I think 303 00:15:53,080 --> 00:15:57,240 Speaker 2: Micah has to come out and say something soon publicly 304 00:15:58,000 --> 00:16:02,000 Speaker 2: about all of this, because you look bad when you're 305 00:16:02,120 --> 00:16:04,880 Speaker 2: mister vocal on everything except the things that might make 306 00:16:04,920 --> 00:16:08,480 Speaker 2: you look bad. And unfortunately he's connected. That's not the 307 00:16:08,520 --> 00:16:10,520 Speaker 2: sense of I think he did anything wrong, was involved 308 00:16:10,520 --> 00:16:14,960 Speaker 2: in it, but he is connected because Nathan Peternell and 309 00:16:15,040 --> 00:16:18,080 Speaker 2: Micah are so close together, and you're right of duel. 310 00:16:18,280 --> 00:16:22,600 Speaker 2: They have made the the the lefts whether it's grooming 311 00:16:22,600 --> 00:16:26,240 Speaker 2: of children or whatever, they've made it a very vocal 312 00:16:26,280 --> 00:16:30,960 Speaker 2: part of the conversation. And you look bad when suddenly 313 00:16:31,000 --> 00:16:33,400 Speaker 2: you go silent when the times get. 314 00:16:33,280 --> 00:16:36,120 Speaker 3: Tough and also and also too are my people is 315 00:16:36,160 --> 00:16:37,800 Speaker 3: like I said, and no one and just to make 316 00:16:37,800 --> 00:16:39,840 Speaker 3: it perfect clear, no one is accusing Micah beck with 317 00:16:39,880 --> 00:16:43,960 Speaker 3: of anything of any legal wrongdoing whatsoever, nor Peter Burnell. 318 00:16:44,040 --> 00:16:48,320 Speaker 3: This is all on his son Jonathan for first and foremost. However, Uh, 319 00:16:48,840 --> 00:16:51,320 Speaker 3: it is in that micamp Beck with orbit because you 320 00:16:51,400 --> 00:16:54,800 Speaker 3: got you got the the the the grand jury self 321 00:16:54,800 --> 00:16:58,200 Speaker 3: over here. You've got you this over here, and it 322 00:16:58,240 --> 00:17:00,960 Speaker 3: doesn't it doesn't look good, and and and if and 323 00:17:01,000 --> 00:17:02,680 Speaker 3: if and by the way, if you're if you're regular 324 00:17:02,680 --> 00:17:05,439 Speaker 3: people who are reading this like hey, who's that kid? 325 00:17:05,680 --> 00:17:07,119 Speaker 3: The thing? Like, yeah, but they have someone connected with 326 00:17:07,119 --> 00:17:10,080 Speaker 3: the lieutenant governor because not because for most people outside 327 00:17:10,080 --> 00:17:12,560 Speaker 3: of our our bubble, that's what that's what the story 328 00:17:12,640 --> 00:17:13,040 Speaker 3: is going to be. 329 00:17:13,840 --> 00:17:17,960 Speaker 4: Well, I I think I think Micah will write it out. 330 00:17:18,320 --> 00:17:22,160 Speaker 4: I don't think you're gonna hear a comment. Uh, he'll 331 00:17:22,320 --> 00:17:24,959 Speaker 4: He'll think that this is kind of the sixth minute 332 00:17:25,960 --> 00:17:28,960 Speaker 4: media cycle and it just all depends if there are 333 00:17:29,000 --> 00:17:31,840 Speaker 4: more coming out. 334 00:17:31,040 --> 00:17:33,720 Speaker 3: Watch I would say, here's here's the thing. I would say. 335 00:17:33,720 --> 00:17:37,480 Speaker 3: Friday at five o'clock, Michael Bevil goes on the Hammerhondizal show. 336 00:17:39,000 --> 00:17:43,919 Speaker 3: If passes prologue, it'll be Friday, It'll be five o'clock Hammerhdizer. 337 00:17:43,920 --> 00:17:46,240 Speaker 3: That's about this. Will they ask him the question, Yes, 338 00:17:46,240 --> 00:17:47,639 Speaker 3: they'll ask me a question. It will be about a 339 00:17:48,280 --> 00:17:50,879 Speaker 3: a the least hostile audience. He could possibly get this 340 00:17:50,960 --> 00:17:53,359 Speaker 3: outside of his own Jesus Sex and Politics podcast. 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Yes, go ahead. 378 00:19:47,440 --> 00:19:50,800 Speaker 3: Actually it was a year ago, showed ubout Facebook memories 379 00:19:51,560 --> 00:19:54,080 Speaker 3: because you and I had had our little our lovers 380 00:19:54,119 --> 00:19:57,640 Speaker 3: lovers lovers fight over the whole thing about Micah and 381 00:19:57,680 --> 00:19:59,879 Speaker 3: the pros up and the dead stuff, Oh yeah going on, 382 00:20:00,280 --> 00:20:01,639 Speaker 3: and I was like, I was like, Rob, this is 383 00:20:01,640 --> 00:20:03,440 Speaker 3: the first Iceberg and you're like, no, it's not. Then 384 00:20:03,920 --> 00:20:06,960 Speaker 3: well hold a year later here we are, well it it. 385 00:20:07,640 --> 00:20:10,280 Speaker 3: I know I was right, No, yeah, we. 386 00:20:12,320 --> 00:20:14,040 Speaker 2: Call everything into question. I do want to get a 387 00:20:14,080 --> 00:20:20,080 Speaker 2: redistricting real quick though, because obviously now Braun has said 388 00:20:20,160 --> 00:20:24,440 Speaker 2: we're gonna have this special session. It's slated to begin Monday, Abdul, 389 00:20:25,800 --> 00:20:27,760 Speaker 2: the Senate is not moving off the fact that they 390 00:20:27,760 --> 00:20:28,560 Speaker 2: don't have the votes. 391 00:20:28,680 --> 00:20:29,920 Speaker 3: The votes are not there. 392 00:20:30,000 --> 00:20:31,840 Speaker 2: What is Braun doing. 393 00:20:32,440 --> 00:20:34,320 Speaker 3: He's trying to pressure them like, Okay, they say they 394 00:20:34,320 --> 00:20:35,800 Speaker 3: don't have the votes, but if I call him in 395 00:20:35,840 --> 00:20:38,320 Speaker 3: here and they're sitting in the chair. Then they'll vote 396 00:20:38,320 --> 00:20:38,600 Speaker 3: for it. 397 00:20:38,640 --> 00:20:40,240 Speaker 2: Oh, it's like, okay, once we put your name on 398 00:20:40,280 --> 00:20:42,720 Speaker 2: the board and you gotta hit red or green, they're 399 00:20:42,720 --> 00:20:43,440 Speaker 2: gonna wimp out. 400 00:20:43,560 --> 00:20:46,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, but the vote, the votes are not there. The 401 00:20:46,600 --> 00:20:49,040 Speaker 3: votes are barely there in the House Representatives. And I 402 00:20:49,080 --> 00:20:51,879 Speaker 3: want to say, by my last count it was a 403 00:20:51,960 --> 00:20:55,000 Speaker 3: double digit and like they are like five votes in 404 00:20:55,040 --> 00:21:01,359 Speaker 3: favor of redistrictain about ten or so, not crazy by 405 00:21:01,440 --> 00:21:03,960 Speaker 3: re districting. And the undecideds are you need? You need 406 00:21:03,960 --> 00:21:06,399 Speaker 3: like at least fifteen of the undecideds of the Republicans 407 00:21:06,400 --> 00:21:08,600 Speaker 3: to get it. And you in the Senate, in the Senate, 408 00:21:08,680 --> 00:21:11,679 Speaker 3: and you're you're a bet man, you're a poker player 409 00:21:11,880 --> 00:21:14,720 Speaker 3: or gambler. Yes, you gotta basically sports. Yeah, you got 410 00:21:14,720 --> 00:21:16,639 Speaker 3: to run the table. It's like, okay, I got this. 411 00:21:16,840 --> 00:21:19,760 Speaker 2: Yeah it's Jim. It's like the Ryder Cup when you 412 00:21:19,800 --> 00:21:21,960 Speaker 2: got to get to fourteen and a half points and 413 00:21:22,000 --> 00:21:24,880 Speaker 2: then their sides up, you know, thirteen and a half 414 00:21:24,920 --> 00:21:26,560 Speaker 2: that it was like the Americans this year at the 415 00:21:26,600 --> 00:21:28,760 Speaker 2: Ryder Cup. We're gonna started winning all those matches, but 416 00:21:28,800 --> 00:21:30,960 Speaker 2: you're like, you lose one of them because you're so 417 00:21:31,160 --> 00:21:34,359 Speaker 2: far behind it's over. Okay, you're the perfect guy asked this, 418 00:21:34,640 --> 00:21:40,000 Speaker 2: Did you ever get bullied into a vote? Did anybody 419 00:21:40,000 --> 00:21:42,000 Speaker 2: ever say all right, merit, put up or shut up? 420 00:21:42,359 --> 00:21:48,840 Speaker 4: Well, it wasn't bully, but it was anxiety and stressful. 421 00:21:48,960 --> 00:21:51,919 Speaker 4: When the riffer issue came along and we had to 422 00:21:51,960 --> 00:21:55,920 Speaker 4: have the trailer that really wasn't the trailer. And because 423 00:21:55,920 --> 00:21:58,680 Speaker 4: the initial riffer was not controversial, No, no, but when 424 00:21:58,840 --> 00:22:02,960 Speaker 4: when when when everybody was coming in saying, you know, 425 00:22:03,160 --> 00:22:07,400 Speaker 4: Charlotte lost their their All Star game, Atlanta at one 426 00:22:07,440 --> 00:22:12,240 Speaker 4: point lost their All Star game in baseball, and so 427 00:22:12,440 --> 00:22:17,080 Speaker 4: Indianapolis that was built on convention that was hospitable and 428 00:22:17,440 --> 00:22:20,120 Speaker 4: then we had to had to change it and make 429 00:22:20,160 --> 00:22:22,760 Speaker 4: a move to change it. That was the time that 430 00:22:23,160 --> 00:22:25,679 Speaker 4: if you want to call it bullied, fine, But when 431 00:22:25,720 --> 00:22:32,879 Speaker 4: you're talking about now and my former brethren right now, 432 00:22:33,520 --> 00:22:35,959 Speaker 4: if they don't have the votes now, they won't have 433 00:22:36,000 --> 00:22:38,480 Speaker 4: the votes when it comes into session. Just because you're 434 00:22:38,520 --> 00:22:41,480 Speaker 4: in session. Somebody is not going to change their vote. 435 00:22:41,480 --> 00:22:44,800 Speaker 4: They've been through the ringer for the last ninety days 436 00:22:44,920 --> 00:22:48,359 Speaker 4: or so, and everybody asking about it. Center Good from 437 00:22:48,440 --> 00:22:52,200 Speaker 4: Good from Tera Hate area is having a town hall 438 00:22:52,240 --> 00:22:57,600 Speaker 4: meeting about this. They're going about their process makes it 439 00:22:57,720 --> 00:22:59,919 Speaker 4: makes me think that if you were going to do this, 440 00:23:00,240 --> 00:23:02,879 Speaker 4: Braun should have called them in in August when no 441 00:23:02,920 --> 00:23:06,400 Speaker 4: one was paying attention and rip the band aid off. 442 00:23:06,520 --> 00:23:08,119 Speaker 2: Okay, so this is my this is my question about you, 443 00:23:08,160 --> 00:23:10,720 Speaker 2: and I'm due. I'll start with you because they don't 444 00:23:10,840 --> 00:23:13,840 Speaker 2: like Braun particularly, I mean the friendships. Yeah, it's it's 445 00:23:13,880 --> 00:23:16,640 Speaker 2: obvious this is and him didn't. 446 00:23:16,640 --> 00:23:18,040 Speaker 4: They didn't like Ulm either. 447 00:23:17,960 --> 00:23:20,159 Speaker 2: Well, but they were afraid of Holcom. They're not afraid 448 00:23:20,160 --> 00:23:24,639 Speaker 2: of Braun. And it seems like if you're going to 449 00:23:24,680 --> 00:23:26,919 Speaker 2: if Rod Bray is telling you, it was basically his 450 00:23:26,920 --> 00:23:30,159 Speaker 2: way of saying, don't do this, and Holcomb says no, 451 00:23:30,200 --> 00:23:32,160 Speaker 2: we're gonna or hold them. If Braun says we're gonna 452 00:23:32,200 --> 00:23:34,920 Speaker 2: do it, now it becomes sort of a standoff between 453 00:23:35,960 --> 00:23:41,720 Speaker 2: Bray and Braun. And Bray's not just going to give 454 00:23:41,800 --> 00:23:43,560 Speaker 2: up his caucus to like Braun. 455 00:23:43,840 --> 00:23:45,639 Speaker 3: The best way to get somebody to do something to 456 00:23:45,640 --> 00:23:48,040 Speaker 3: tell them not to do it. And this is just 457 00:23:48,080 --> 00:23:52,000 Speaker 3: the reverse. Because you've got Claire Sigmas from the Senate governor. 458 00:23:52,320 --> 00:23:55,040 Speaker 3: Don't do this. The vote start there. The votes aren't 459 00:23:55,040 --> 00:23:56,280 Speaker 3: going to be there. They goes like, no, I want 460 00:23:56,280 --> 00:23:57,640 Speaker 3: to do this, Like Governor, don't do it, Like I'm 461 00:23:57,680 --> 00:24:00,680 Speaker 3: gonna make you guys come here. Okay, When then when 462 00:24:00,920 --> 00:24:02,960 Speaker 3: it falls on your face, not only is it not 463 00:24:03,040 --> 00:24:05,560 Speaker 3: going to lose a red districting fight, but also you're 464 00:24:05,600 --> 00:24:07,879 Speaker 3: you're already nice to begin with coming in, you know, 465 00:24:07,920 --> 00:24:11,919 Speaker 3: with property taxes, the whole thing, healthcare, you always you 466 00:24:11,920 --> 00:24:13,680 Speaker 3: didn't have the necessarily the best relationship with us to 467 00:24:13,720 --> 00:24:16,520 Speaker 3: begin with. You Now you're just basically putting the nail, 468 00:24:16,640 --> 00:24:18,680 Speaker 3: putting the final nail on the coffin. He calls them back. 469 00:24:19,280 --> 00:24:21,119 Speaker 3: It's gonna be a very very long three year. 470 00:24:21,240 --> 00:24:23,840 Speaker 4: You know, let's start from the beginning when when Braun 471 00:24:24,720 --> 00:24:27,800 Speaker 4: ran for governor. Initially he was the only candidate that 472 00:24:27,960 --> 00:24:34,280 Speaker 4: had Trump's endorsement. That was along with money, but that 473 00:24:34,480 --> 00:24:39,280 Speaker 4: was really the epicenter of what grew his campaign. And 474 00:24:39,280 --> 00:24:44,680 Speaker 4: and and I've always maintained I think, I think, I 475 00:24:44,960 --> 00:24:47,480 Speaker 4: know that I've always thought that they're going to go 476 00:24:47,480 --> 00:24:50,320 Speaker 4: into special session, not because they had the votes, but 477 00:24:50,359 --> 00:24:54,880 Speaker 4: because Braun could call it. And and that there when 478 00:24:55,000 --> 00:24:58,560 Speaker 4: when uh Braun's on the phone with the president, Governor 479 00:24:58,600 --> 00:25:01,560 Speaker 4: Brown's on the phone with President rump UH and it's 480 00:25:01,640 --> 00:25:05,400 Speaker 4: it's constant. I didn't think there was any any any 481 00:25:05,480 --> 00:25:09,359 Speaker 4: thought that they weren't going to go into session UH 482 00:25:09,600 --> 00:25:14,280 Speaker 4: to to redistrict the state. Now what happens, you know, 483 00:25:14,400 --> 00:25:16,800 Speaker 4: Frank Murvan is not not going to be an easy 484 00:25:17,520 --> 00:25:20,320 Speaker 4: win for Jennifer Ruth Green. I told you both that 485 00:25:20,560 --> 00:25:22,879 Speaker 4: she was going to run for this because nobody pays 486 00:25:22,880 --> 00:25:25,919 Speaker 4: it in Northwest Indiana. Nobody pays attention what's going on 487 00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:30,119 Speaker 4: in Indnapolis, and and that her troubles at the state House, 488 00:25:30,200 --> 00:25:33,399 Speaker 4: being being in the Bronze cabinet is not going to 489 00:25:33,480 --> 00:25:37,120 Speaker 4: trouble her and her her attempt to beat Frank Murvan next. 490 00:25:37,840 --> 00:25:41,000 Speaker 3: I just I disagree though, because while while you're a 491 00:25:41,119 --> 00:25:43,439 Speaker 3: you're right, the Northwest Indian of the Northwest region is 492 00:25:43,440 --> 00:25:46,359 Speaker 3: more Chicago media, Chicago's and were looking for an interesting 493 00:25:46,400 --> 00:25:49,000 Speaker 3: story to write about. And I know the political there's 494 00:25:49,040 --> 00:25:50,520 Speaker 3: been a whiles has been up there. I know the 495 00:25:50,520 --> 00:25:52,280 Speaker 3: political reports that there are just chopping off the bed 496 00:25:52,440 --> 00:25:55,719 Speaker 3: for some type of scandal, and Jeff Ruth Green is 497 00:25:56,840 --> 00:25:58,199 Speaker 3: here here you go here. 498 00:25:58,440 --> 00:26:03,080 Speaker 2: Well, part of this part of this too is I 499 00:26:03,080 --> 00:26:05,600 Speaker 2: don't think Bray and Houston are certain they can draw 500 00:26:05,600 --> 00:26:08,240 Speaker 2: a map that Mervan loses. I mean, you can make 501 00:26:08,280 --> 00:26:11,320 Speaker 2: the district a little more Republican, but can you make 502 00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:12,879 Speaker 2: up five or six points? Well? 503 00:26:12,880 --> 00:26:16,440 Speaker 4: Also, you know, I'm sure, I'm sure Senator Bray is thinking, 504 00:26:16,520 --> 00:26:18,840 Speaker 4: am I going to lose three seats on this right? 505 00:26:19,119 --> 00:26:22,320 Speaker 4: And uh and and you know at these maps that 506 00:26:22,359 --> 00:26:25,320 Speaker 4: you're looking at, and and anybody that thinks you can 507 00:26:25,359 --> 00:26:29,160 Speaker 4: slice and dice Carson and and not have him pop 508 00:26:29,280 --> 00:26:31,760 Speaker 4: up as the mayor of Indianapolis and in a very 509 00:26:31,800 --> 00:26:35,280 Speaker 4: powerful position for the Democrat Party with bo By coming along. 510 00:26:35,920 --> 00:26:36,720 Speaker 3: Uh you know. 511 00:26:37,040 --> 00:26:40,080 Speaker 4: You're you're silly and and you're right, and you look 512 00:26:40,080 --> 00:26:44,359 Speaker 4: at Northwest Indiana and uh and and you're squeezing Rudy 513 00:26:44,440 --> 00:26:47,199 Speaker 4: Akim a little bit as well next door. Uh and 514 00:26:47,359 --> 00:26:51,159 Speaker 4: bear it a little bit too. And it's it's a 515 00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:52,760 Speaker 4: very difficult redraw. 516 00:26:52,960 --> 00:26:55,640 Speaker 3: It's like playing Tetris. Yeah, when you move a little 517 00:26:55,640 --> 00:26:56,640 Speaker 3: bit with scars wrong. 518 00:26:57,440 --> 00:26:59,440 Speaker 2: Those proposed those maps their foot out of there. So 519 00:26:59,440 --> 00:27:02,080 Speaker 2: that looks like a game of Tetris or Doctor Mario. 520 00:27:02,560 --> 00:27:04,960 Speaker 4: And it's mercury as well. We've talked about it too. 521 00:27:05,520 --> 00:27:08,440 Speaker 2: All right. Uh So let's get everybody on the table. 522 00:27:08,440 --> 00:27:09,840 Speaker 2: Here because I don't know how long the session is 523 00:27:09,840 --> 00:27:11,600 Speaker 2: gonna take. They may still be doing it by the 524 00:27:11,600 --> 00:27:14,560 Speaker 2: time we do the show next week. Will there be 525 00:27:14,640 --> 00:27:18,560 Speaker 2: a vote on redistricting and will it pass? 526 00:27:20,040 --> 00:27:20,680 Speaker 3: Absolutely? 527 00:27:21,480 --> 00:27:22,120 Speaker 2: Which which one? 528 00:27:22,280 --> 00:27:27,760 Speaker 4: I think there? Well, there is two part question. Absolutely, 529 00:27:27,800 --> 00:27:29,200 Speaker 4: there will be a vote. 530 00:27:28,920 --> 00:27:31,480 Speaker 2: So Bray will let it come up to a vote. Yes, Okay, 531 00:27:31,600 --> 00:27:33,240 Speaker 2: you will not stick it in rules because Adam ran 532 00:27:33,359 --> 00:27:35,080 Speaker 2: thinks like he might put it in rules or something 533 00:27:35,119 --> 00:27:35,400 Speaker 2: like that. 534 00:27:35,720 --> 00:27:38,840 Speaker 3: I think at this point in time annoying Rod Bray 535 00:27:38,920 --> 00:27:40,879 Speaker 3: and Rod Bray is slow to anger and slow to 536 00:27:40,920 --> 00:27:43,040 Speaker 3: get ticked off. Like, Okay, governor, if this is what 537 00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:45,399 Speaker 3: you want, okay, be careful what you wish for. I 538 00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:47,199 Speaker 3: think they'll get a vote, and I think it'll I 539 00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:49,520 Speaker 3: think it'll fail. It'll fail, all right, I agree the 540 00:27:49,520 --> 00:27:51,280 Speaker 3: same thing. You guys are in agreement. 541 00:27:51,280 --> 00:27:54,280 Speaker 4: I think I think it gets a vote, and it's 542 00:27:54,280 --> 00:27:59,200 Speaker 4: just the process. Because small special sessions should go twelve 543 00:27:59,280 --> 00:28:02,760 Speaker 4: days business, this will go three and there will be 544 00:28:02,800 --> 00:28:04,560 Speaker 4: a vote. 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