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Speaker 1: Then it hip hop album review Baby Keen Casino and

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Speaker 1: we got the brothers from on Deck TV podcast Spike

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Speaker 1: in a b in the place to be appreciate y'all

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Speaker 1: popping up.

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Speaker 2: Look, Baby Keen Casino.

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Speaker 1: Shout out to everybody that was live with us with

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Speaker 1: me and can we we did our first reaction to

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Speaker 1: this album.

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Speaker 2: We was on Twitch.

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Speaker 1: I believe I'm fifteen years in a game. We ain't

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Speaker 1: trying to get our channel taken from us. So unfortunately

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Speaker 1: we didn't put the actual live stream on YouTube, but

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Speaker 1: we edited it down so that way you know, the

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Speaker 1: whole track isn't playing. We gave you a little snippets

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Speaker 1: or that way you know what we were playing, and

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Speaker 1: we did it and we put it on YouTube. So

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Speaker 1: appreciate everybody, you know what I'm saying. The comments, Uh,

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Speaker 1: y'all was super positive on that. I know y'all like

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Speaker 1: when we do stuff like that, So we gonna keep

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Speaker 1: doing it. But Baby King Casino, this is in my opinion,

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Speaker 1: what artists development and growth looks like when you listen

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Speaker 1: to Baby King originally and where he's going to on

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Speaker 1: this project. For me, in all aspects of artist street,

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Speaker 1: he's just grown as an artist.

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Speaker 2: Man, I love Baby King's energy.

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Speaker 3: Yo.

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Speaker 4: You know you don't see you don't see abs.

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Speaker 5: He can't see us.

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Speaker 2: Now I can see y'all. But okay, I'm all ears.

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Speaker 2: So obviously you don't like this, honey.

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Speaker 5: I'm all ears. I'm gonna let you cook. Remember he's

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Speaker 5: a joint.

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Speaker 2: Passing you the rock. No, no, I'm passing you to rock.

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Speaker 3: So you don't hear artists development.

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Speaker 5: I hear.

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Speaker 6: I know he's young, still twenty six. He raps like

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Speaker 6: a the subject matter and the the word play and

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Speaker 6: the vocabulary of someone of that age or younger. So

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Speaker 6: I remember his mixtapes you know that for My Bitch

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Speaker 6: and all that, but I don't remember them in super detailed.

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Speaker 6: I remember listening to him and being like, no, I'm good.

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Speaker 6: And then the last one was a little bit more melodic,

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Speaker 6: if I remember correctly, Yeah, it was a little more

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Speaker 6: sing songye. But on here it's very his shit is

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Speaker 6: very elementary. And so if this is where is he

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Speaker 6: developing from, maybe that's the thing. So maybe I need

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Speaker 6: to go back and listen to the old yeah shapes.

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Speaker 1: Where he's developing from, right, Like, I think he's grown

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Speaker 1: a lot from the subject matter, right. I also think

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Speaker 1: the way that he's crafting his music. And also I

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Speaker 1: feel like, even though he definitely had a KT feature

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Speaker 1: on here, it wasn't necessarily pushed by anybody else outside

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Speaker 1: of really King and shooting his live rollout that he

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Speaker 1: did on the release on YouTube. But now I love

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Speaker 1: the energy that he has here. Like on tracks obviously Casino,

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Speaker 1: House Money or is that I'm not a lyricist, I

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Speaker 1: like that one, and also the intro no security, I thought,

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Speaker 1: Baby King, And to your point, Ab, He's not the

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Speaker 1: most complex rapper at all, you know what I'm saying,

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Speaker 1: But I think that he does a really good job

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Speaker 1: of being simple but effective, very effective in getting his

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Speaker 1: message across. And this is part of the artist development

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Speaker 1: that I was talking about. Like for me, I always

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Speaker 1: like introspective artists, people that can peel back layers and

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Speaker 1: let me understand who they are as a person, how

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Speaker 1: they got to where they are. And this is the

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Speaker 1: first time I felt like that out of anything I've

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Speaker 1: listened about King, right, Like the way he started off

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Speaker 1: with no security, he didn't necessarily do it on Casino

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Speaker 1: or the next two tracks, but when he goes to

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Speaker 1: the closing track. I'm not a lyricist Highway ninety five,

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Speaker 1: Part two. You know what I'm saying, It's like, oh damn,

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Speaker 1: you know, you get a glimpse of a kid that

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Speaker 1: was really lost, you know what I'm saying, A kid

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Speaker 1: that had a run away from home, a kid that

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Speaker 1: didn't necessarily experience love in the way that we did. Now,

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Speaker 1: this came from our comments section. Shout out to Sonny.

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Speaker 1: He sent it to me. But I don't know if

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Speaker 1: you guys knew this or not. But like his mom

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Speaker 1: didn't even pull up at the at the release party either,

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Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So yeah, so you know

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Speaker 1: that's kind of it's in line with the story that

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Speaker 1: he's telling. It's a personal story that I honestly enjoyed.

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Speaker 1: I like the project is not that long, eleven songs,

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Speaker 1: thirty seven minutes. I think that he gave you a

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Speaker 1: glimpse of all aspects of King. He gave you the

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Speaker 1: hype King, he gave you introspective King. He gave you

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Speaker 1: a little bit of commercial King with birds and the

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Speaker 1: bees and good flirts. I thought, overall, this was a

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Speaker 1: really good project, a really good way of putting it

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Speaker 1: together and executing it, So I fuck with this baby

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Speaker 1: king project.

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Speaker 2: Casino, y'all.

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Speaker 7: Didn't initially know how I felt about the sequencing of

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Speaker 7: it all because it's like, you know, he brought me

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Speaker 7: in like kind of kind of subtle, and then he

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Speaker 7: and then he went up with Casino and then and

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Speaker 7: then he'll go He'll he'll take you right back out

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Speaker 7: of it.

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Speaker 4: I'm like, man, what is he doing?

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Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 4: Like I didn't, I didn't really understand turbulent.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it was.

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Speaker 7: It was just like it was like this, this this

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Speaker 7: roller coaster ride, and I was just like, why is

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Speaker 7: he doing that? But then when you start digging into

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Speaker 7: the lyrics a little bit, I'm like, Okay, the more

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Speaker 7: I listen to it, the more I feel it, you

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Speaker 7: know what I'm saying, Like, the more I understand he

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Speaker 7: didn't want to go to serious hype route because I

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Speaker 7: think that's his bag. I think his bag, Yeah, casinos

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Speaker 7: and all that. I mean, he does that very well.

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Speaker 7: So it's it's a little bit more challenging for me

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Speaker 7: to to taking them seriously on the on the more

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Speaker 7: subtle tracks, So I kind of got to settle into that.

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Speaker 7: So but like I said, the more I listened to it,

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Speaker 7: the more I understand the like what he was going for,

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Speaker 7: because cause that's been my problem all last year. The

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Speaker 7: way people seek was their albums, Like, but I don't

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Speaker 7: know this one, this one, this one is settling in

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Speaker 7: on me for for whatever reason. Like I like what

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Speaker 7: he's doing here, and I agree with you as far

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Speaker 7: as the He's not the most complex rapper, but he

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Speaker 7: says that the story that he's telling makes a lot

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Speaker 7: of sense once you know what he's talking about with

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Speaker 7: with his what is uh about how the casino basically,

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Speaker 7: like the Las Vegas basically ruined his life, you know

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Speaker 7: what I mean, Like, and he's telling that from you know,

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Speaker 7: the perspective of like his mother, his was it his

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Speaker 7: father or somebody or his grandfather, his uncle or something

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Speaker 7: like that, Well whoever was there with him, Like the

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Speaker 7: casino just messed up all of them because somebody had

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Speaker 7: a gambling with his mom. And so yeah, I'm just

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Speaker 7: I'm just thinking about, like, you know, a kid growing

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Speaker 7: up in Las Vegas and how the casino can affect

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Speaker 7: their life and how he was saying that he had

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Speaker 7: they had to move along beach he hated he hated,

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Speaker 7: hated that they moved along beach to Las Vegas. It's

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Speaker 7: just like, damn, once you realize that you start out

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Speaker 7: with no security, start talking about that, and then he

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Speaker 7: ends it with no blame. It's almost like he's just

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Speaker 7: trying to work through that whole thing. It's like simple

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Speaker 7: but like the story. I don't know man like like

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Speaker 7: I like the story from them from the beginning to

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Speaker 7: the end.

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Speaker 3: Huh, this man is remedial.

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Speaker 2: No, I ain't say that.

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Speaker 4: I ain't saying what he said. I'm just saying so

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Speaker 4: that's not what I'm saying at all.

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Speaker 7: All I'm saying is that I get how it doesn't

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Speaker 7: sound super complex and it it don't have to. I

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Speaker 7: don't think I want that, honestly, you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 7: Like I said, I think his bag is the is

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Speaker 7: the casinos, the house monies and all of that and

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Speaker 7: all the other stuff. I like the fact that he's

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Speaker 7: it seems like he's challenging himself to make more introspective music,

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Speaker 7: and I can appreciate that. So I feel you when

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Speaker 7: you say artists like development, because I don't remember hearing

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Speaker 7: that before. You know what I'm saying, I don't remember

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Speaker 7: hearing that side of him. So I liked that he's

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Speaker 7: challenging himself to do that on this project.

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Speaker 3: But no, man, I rock with it.

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Speaker 7: I rock with it for real, for real, Like, like,

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Speaker 7: did you watch the performance he did live?

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Speaker 3: Oh?

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Speaker 2: Man?

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Speaker 7: So so when you watch that coincide with this, it

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Speaker 7: gives it a different feeling in my opinion, Like it's

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Speaker 7: just I don't know, like the like him just kind

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Speaker 7: of on the slow of songs and you kind of

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Speaker 7: see him just not necessarily rapping him like that, he

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Speaker 7: just kind of selling in it. You could tell that

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Speaker 7: it's emotional for him in moments. So which song did

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Speaker 7: he before he performed? I think he started off with

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Speaker 7: no security, then he went into a casino and then

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Speaker 7: did he perform Good Flirts? Or he just kind of

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Speaker 7: chilled and rock to Good Flirts? He ain't really raped

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Speaker 7: Good Flirts? And I think he went into House Money

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Speaker 7: and he started rapping again on House Money, and then

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Speaker 7: after that he went into I'm not a lyricist, but

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Speaker 7: that's what I'm saying. Even when he wasn't rapping, you

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Speaker 7: could just kind of tell that some stuff was just

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Speaker 7: he is younger, so I can't I can't expect Baby King.

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Speaker 3: I can't.

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Speaker 7: I can't expect to relate to him on a certain level,

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Speaker 7: you know what I'm saying. So for a young guy

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Speaker 7: to try to tap into something like that, I thought was.

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Speaker 1: Cool one hundred Like you know, for me, I never

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Speaker 1: like I was never like a Baby King guy, you

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Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Because I felt like the message

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Speaker 1: wasn't necessarily for me, but I felt with this particular project,

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Speaker 1: I felt like he could bridge the gap between like

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Speaker 1: and people in our age group because of the messaging

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Speaker 1: and because of the introspectiveness of this two things and

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Speaker 1: then Ab and Spike y'all go Ken and Ken can

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Speaker 1: go too. I love the word turbulent that you use

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Speaker 1: can because that that does describe the sequencing of this

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Speaker 1: and it also describes his story and modest in terms

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Speaker 1: of the the sequencing of it. Because the two joints

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Speaker 1: that are mad hype, they're really hype right like this

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Speaker 1: nigga can perform this ship like he can open up

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Speaker 1: the show or close the show with it like it's

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Speaker 1: those two are like that. I understand why he broke

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Speaker 1: it up because it's just too height because if you

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Speaker 1: don't break it up like that and then it's then

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Speaker 1: it's too mellow, you know what I'm saying, Like you

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Speaker 1: get because you get no security casino.

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Speaker 2: Let's say he.

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Speaker 1: Goes house money like the rest of it is, you

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Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, And.

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Speaker 4: You can't get such respective if you go too hype.

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Speaker 7: Even though I think this ship would have been been

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Speaker 7: crazy with all hype joints, he can't go like that,

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Speaker 7: go as deep as he was trying to go with

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Speaker 7: too much hype stuff.

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Speaker 5: So I get why he did it. Ye I think.

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Speaker 6: I do, like when you said the bridge is a

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Speaker 6: I think what will help Have y'all ever seen him

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Speaker 6: Haven't, And I think that would help somebody like me

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Speaker 3: The same la, right the documentary.

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Speaker 8: Well, well, it was still a lure. I think what

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Speaker 2: Got in an accident.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, but he had the real footage of him in

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Speaker 7: He was paying, he was cann interview with the wires

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Speaker 4: So it's just like he had that stuff.

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Speaker 7: But he was, like I said, I feel like he

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Speaker 2: Shit like that.

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Speaker 4: Then he said, and it's like how hard that hit him.

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Speaker 7: I'm like, okay, so if you start listening to those

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Speaker 5: It's in there. It's in the music. But I agree with.

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Speaker 7: Right right, I lost my grandmother, so I have to like,

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Speaker 7: you know what I'm saying. I know how it felt

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Speaker 7: like he took off. He took off like five five

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Speaker 4: Like I was just like, God, damn.

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Speaker 5: Okay, Yeah.

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Speaker 6: You mean to tell me you would click on the

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Speaker 6: Baby Came interview. It would help, all right, it would help.

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Speaker 6: I feel what you're saying would have.

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Speaker 5: Come across the timeline and you would probably watch.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, like if a clip, yeah there you go, like

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Speaker 5: Ship. I don't plan that day. You can catch the

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Speaker 8: I agree with your points. Actually picking that back and

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Speaker 8: like that. So I'm listening to this album. I'm like, okay, this,

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Speaker 8: this is cool, and some of the stuff is catching

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Speaker 8: me from an introspective standpoint. But I know you from

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Speaker 8: you is to him, And yeah, that's what he is

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Speaker 8: to me, gat in my age group. But he didn't

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Speaker 8: y'all are saying bridge the gap. He didn't bridge the

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Speaker 8: gap enough for me. I do respect him, moys and artists.

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Speaker 8: I like this more than anything that I've heard from him,

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Speaker 8: but it's still just.

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Speaker 5: Not my year, not for me. I can't. I can't

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Speaker 8: It's a solid project, it's fun for people to want

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Speaker 8: to have fun when they listening to it rock out, But.

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Speaker 6: Nah, those hype tracks hit though. On the Beast is crazy.

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Speaker 6: The beat and the flow match. I get the energy,

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Speaker 6: Like I'm not mad at that that's gonna go stupid

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Speaker 5: That's his bag, like you said, that's his bag.

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Speaker 8: He just unfortunately you can't do that all CD, especially

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Speaker 8: if you don't got our project, especially if you don't

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Speaker 8: got interviews and you don't people don't know you. I

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Speaker 8: think why that works with somebody like a Travis Scott.

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Speaker 8: People talk to him. He like they know his story

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Speaker 6: That's what I'm saying. Yeah, Like, like Travis Scott is

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Speaker 6: can go all fiend, he can go fifteen fiend songs. Yeah,

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Speaker 6: and if he wanted to. But then, like you have

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Speaker 6: certain things that happened to him, you know, his influence

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Speaker 6: in other parts of culture. Baby Keim could knock on

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Speaker 6: I'd be like I was, Yeah, I'm just being like okay,

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Speaker 6: Like the story now though, I know, but he's talked

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Speaker 6: about his mom on his features on Donda, he mentions

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Speaker 6: some stuff about his mom and ship King. Yeah, versions

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Speaker 6: like version, that's a class listen, thank you.

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Speaker 5: It's a classic.

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Speaker 3: Dismissiveness I hear from on deck.

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Speaker 5: I mean, baby King though, like what we.

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Speaker 3: I don't think this is a good album. You know,

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Speaker 3: you guys are not saying it's not as bad. You

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Speaker 3: know cool, it's just y'all. You're like, it's fun, it's cool.

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Speaker 3: It was like, I don't even know this, nigga, bro,

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Speaker 3: why do I people about this?

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Speaker 7: And he like the artists that come on before you

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Speaker 7: when you go to an open mic, to open.

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Speaker 4: It was all right, yeah, right, that's it.

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Speaker 3: That's I think for his what five year hiatus. I

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Speaker 3: think it was smart for him to come back with

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Speaker 3: something introspective to tell his story, because you got there's

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Speaker 3: some validity in what you're staying saying. So what better

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Speaker 3: way to introduce people than with the album. People are

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Speaker 3: waiting to hear from you, So let me come back,

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Speaker 3: let me switch it up a little bit, let me

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Speaker 3: that I can I cannot I could be more than

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Speaker 3: by him. It was a little taken aback, but I

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Speaker 3: enjoyed the ride on this joint, like you know, no security.

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Speaker 3: Of course Casino is under that first beat. Yeah, yeah, bro,

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Speaker 3: Sometimes I get mad at the beat switch because I

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Speaker 3: and and you got birds and the bees, which you

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Speaker 3: know now he's and good flirts. You know. I don't

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Speaker 7: She she was the one that was did you watch

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Speaker 7: the live joint? Okay, yeah, she's she's a female artist.

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Speaker 7: She's uh, I think she just sings. I think she sings.

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Speaker 7: I think she only sings. But no, she's dope though.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah she was dope. The House Money joint was

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Speaker 3: was dope and the different. Uh, I'm not a lyricist.

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Speaker 5: I think I like that. That's my ship. Yeah to him, You.

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Speaker 3: Know that he was because you y'all listened to the

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Speaker 3: own Deck Listen Wednesdays just they covered it, but y'all

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Speaker 3: already talked about this a little bit. Yeah, I already

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Speaker 3: feeling with it. They didn't diss it, but I was like,

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Speaker 5: Which one, I am not a lyricist. That's a heavy state.

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Speaker 1: The man that's a heavy state channeled, he channeled, Yes, Yes.

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Speaker 5: That was I think so that was an old school

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Speaker 5: channel with the rabbit. Y'all didn't hear that at all.

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Speaker 4: Y'all didn't hear three stacks.

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Speaker 6: And I'm gonna listen back from that lens. Okay, I

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Speaker 7: Now, that's not three stacks, but that's that's like Dungeon family.

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Speaker 3: That part.

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Speaker 5: That's fair.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I can said that. Yeah, yeah, you had the

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Speaker 3: two short jump sets appeal like he went out west.

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Speaker 3: I still don't know what the hell dramatic girl is?

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Speaker 3: You know, Yeah, sound Way did that. But again, I

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Speaker 3: and no blame I think was a was a good closer.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, because especially with no security, no security, no blame,

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Speaker 7: this sounds like it. He said, it's a good album.

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Speaker 7: This is a good album.

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Speaker 5: Love that doesn't okay, okay, the.

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Speaker 1: Hard common section getting now, I just want to be

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Speaker 5: Likes it on deck is on the face.

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Speaker 3: I love the album. I thought he did a really

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Speaker 3: really good job. There was a lot of pressure on him, yeah,

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Speaker 3: Like he always kept you interested as a listener and

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Speaker 3: you never really could take breaks, you know when he's

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Speaker 3: rapping this. It's the thing that that I think it

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Speaker 3: when it comes to certain artists when they do it,

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Speaker 3: it's those tricks, those things that everybody catch on to.

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Speaker 3: He was very catchy on there with a lot of

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Speaker 3: different points, a lot of different aspects of this album.

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Speaker 3: So it's not like y'all just put this listen.

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Speaker 6: How did you feel I was gonna ask, because I

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Speaker 5: Other way around?

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Speaker 6: Which one is because it's one of the other.

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Speaker 7: He's not writing for me, clearly not writing Kendrick.

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Speaker 4: The only thing that that that it.

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Speaker 6: Could possibly be Kendrick is getting the sauce from Okay,

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Speaker 6: So so that's the only thing that that that could.

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Speaker 7: Possibly be happening. Lyrics wise, it's no way that he's lyrically.

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Speaker 7: He's not like a structured song structure, different sounds. He

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Speaker 7: could be doing that, but but let's let's be honest.

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Speaker 7: Kntrick has been doing that type of stuff.

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Speaker 5: He has been animated. Yeah, on a certain level.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, Yeah, there are specific flows that Keem uses that

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Speaker 6: I think he's pulling some sauce from his nephew whatever.

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Speaker 5: The second because that.

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Speaker 3: Hasn't been around, it's because Kendrick Lamar.

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Speaker 6: Wanted to use He got him in the studio lockdown

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00:21:37,640 --> 00:21:38,800
Speaker 6: and just he just going there.

438
00:21:40,960 --> 00:21:43,000
Speaker 3: He give them water or something like that, going there

439
00:21:43,000 --> 00:21:43,840
Speaker 3: with a needle.

440
00:21:45,600 --> 00:21:48,680
Speaker 5: And extracked the sauce. Take the sauce out.

441
00:21:50,160 --> 00:21:51,919
Speaker 6: I'll put your album out when I'm done with you.

442
00:21:52,359 --> 00:21:56,600
Speaker 6: Give me that sauce first. Just what Drake does that clear?

443
00:21:56,640 --> 00:21:57,960
Speaker 6: The influence is clear.

444
00:21:58,119 --> 00:22:00,679
Speaker 3: From a guy whose whole career was built all of that.

445
00:22:01,080 --> 00:22:06,440
Speaker 6: Not to now there's literal I'm talking about. Oh it is,

446
00:22:06,680 --> 00:22:09,480
Speaker 6: but but I'm saying it's okay. I'm not even mad

447
00:22:09,520 --> 00:22:11,439
Speaker 6: at it. I'm saying it's it just needs to be

448
00:22:11,440 --> 00:22:13,639
Speaker 6: acknowledged though everybody here to admit it.

449
00:22:13,680 --> 00:22:16,560
Speaker 1: We can go around there be and be that their cousins.

450
00:22:16,720 --> 00:22:19,280
Speaker 1: So I think some of the vocal inflections, even how

451
00:22:19,320 --> 00:22:23,360
Speaker 1: they sound with certain things that they do, they're just family, bro.

452
00:22:23,800 --> 00:22:25,520
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Like like I like, I can.

453
00:22:25,640 --> 00:22:28,080
Speaker 1: I can cut up a clip of my brother talking

454
00:22:28,160 --> 00:22:30,040
Speaker 1: and you'd be like, damn if you just say that,

455
00:22:30,119 --> 00:22:31,840
Speaker 1: Like you know what I'm saying, it's it's just a

456
00:22:31,880 --> 00:22:32,440
Speaker 1: family thing.

457
00:22:32,520 --> 00:22:33,440
Speaker 2: So I don't.

458
00:22:33,560 --> 00:22:36,720
Speaker 7: I don't subscribe to the Ovo Sweatshop mentality when it

459
00:22:36,800 --> 00:22:39,920
Speaker 7: comes to Baby Keem and Kato, like they.

460
00:22:40,080 --> 00:22:40,919
Speaker 5: Y'all are shooting this.

461
00:22:41,560 --> 00:22:49,240
Speaker 6: You could free ball with this ball, bro, because the cousins,

462
00:22:48,720 --> 00:22:51,000
Speaker 6: all I know, you better be here for Iceman.

463
00:22:51,800 --> 00:22:54,520
Speaker 4: You better would rather be anywhere else in the world.

464
00:22:55,800 --> 00:22:57,680
Speaker 7: I don't know if it's an elephant in the room,

465
00:22:57,840 --> 00:23:01,960
Speaker 7: but with anybody expecting good flirts when you saw it

466
00:23:02,600 --> 00:23:07,200
Speaker 7: right right, but was expected, No, so it was great

467
00:23:07,320 --> 00:23:08,760
Speaker 7: if you wasn't so you thought it was great.

468
00:23:08,840 --> 00:23:11,600
Speaker 8: It was great immediately, like once I got to the well,

469
00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:14,280
Speaker 8: not immediately. I had to get into what it was

470
00:23:14,840 --> 00:23:17,000
Speaker 8: by the time Kendrick get direct like that.

471
00:23:17,119 --> 00:23:19,520
Speaker 7: Yeah, I was not expecting it because of what they

472
00:23:19,520 --> 00:23:24,520
Speaker 7: did what's called blue Blue, So at first I was

473
00:23:24,560 --> 00:23:26,640
Speaker 7: taking a little taken aback. I was like, oh, ship,

474
00:23:26,680 --> 00:23:29,320
Speaker 7: that's not what I wanted. But again, once you settled

475
00:23:29,320 --> 00:23:31,080
Speaker 7: in and I'm like, okay, cool, Like I like what.

476
00:23:31,320 --> 00:23:33,399
Speaker 7: I like what they both did on this track. I

477
00:23:33,440 --> 00:23:36,120
Speaker 7: think I like that that Kendrick looked like the playful

478
00:23:36,200 --> 00:23:38,520
Speaker 7: route and he went more the serious route on it,

479
00:23:38,600 --> 00:23:41,720
Speaker 7: and so I liked that marriage there, and.

480
00:23:41,680 --> 00:23:43,040
Speaker 4: It was like cool. It was cool to kind of

481
00:23:43,080 --> 00:23:45,120
Speaker 4: hear Kendrick just be on some silly ship.

482
00:23:45,240 --> 00:23:48,640
Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, let's hearing him at war for two years.

483
00:23:48,640 --> 00:23:50,000
Speaker 5: It was Yeah, it was cool.

484
00:23:50,440 --> 00:23:52,720
Speaker 6: Supposed to be working on a joint project. Cool, weren't

485
00:23:52,720 --> 00:23:54,520
Speaker 6: they supposed to be working on like a joint project.

486
00:23:54,960 --> 00:23:57,160
Speaker 1: I don't say none of the ka that joints projects

487
00:23:57,200 --> 00:23:59,080
Speaker 1: are ever going to come, none of that right exactly,

488
00:23:59,680 --> 00:24:02,159
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't think so. But but Rob, I

489
00:24:02,200 --> 00:24:04,720
Speaker 1: do agree with Good Flirts with me. When me and

490
00:24:04,800 --> 00:24:07,400
Speaker 1: KM reacted to it, it was like, okay, we got

491
00:24:07,400 --> 00:24:10,040
Speaker 1: to settle into it because obviously there's a high casino

492
00:24:10,400 --> 00:24:12,879
Speaker 1: and then you know, Birds and the Bees is like okay,

493
00:24:12,920 --> 00:24:16,320
Speaker 1: I don't know because that beat is very simplistic, and

494
00:24:16,320 --> 00:24:18,520
Speaker 1: then it goes into Good Flirts and you see Kada.

495
00:24:18,720 --> 00:24:20,399
Speaker 1: You know, originally a thought, oh this shit about to

496
00:24:20,440 --> 00:24:23,120
Speaker 1: be hype and then it wasn't. But then you hear

497
00:24:23,160 --> 00:24:26,680
Speaker 1: it and it's like, oh, this is this is the single, this,

498
00:24:26,680 --> 00:24:28,119
Speaker 1: this is what's made for radio.

499
00:24:28,640 --> 00:24:30,439
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. You got the Kato feature

500
00:24:30,480 --> 00:24:34,359
Speaker 2: on there. You know what I'm saying, it's very safe.

501
00:24:34,960 --> 00:24:36,359
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, to go put that on

502
00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:39,960
Speaker 1: the radio. So to me, you know, like this album

503
00:24:40,080 --> 00:24:44,280
Speaker 1: just showed keems versatility and I think you said it best, Rod,

504
00:24:44,359 --> 00:24:46,639
Speaker 1: where like, you know, this shows him that he's not

505
00:24:46,880 --> 00:24:49,160
Speaker 1: just the hype man, you know, like he can make

506
00:24:49,320 --> 00:24:50,639
Speaker 1: other styles of music.

507
00:24:50,880 --> 00:24:52,840
Speaker 7: I like that line where he he was just like

508
00:24:52,920 --> 00:24:54,520
Speaker 7: I love I love love too.

509
00:24:55,200 --> 00:24:59,280
Speaker 5: I got some of my bitch like ya too was

510
00:24:59,320 --> 00:25:01,240
Speaker 5: really m that was funny, like na.

511
00:25:01,320 --> 00:25:02,200
Speaker 3: That that was good?

512
00:25:02,280 --> 00:25:02,840
Speaker 5: That was good.

513
00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:03,879
Speaker 3: Yeah, I get it.

514
00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:07,480
Speaker 1: But look, man, get into these damn grades. Man, this

515
00:25:07,560 --> 00:25:09,760
Speaker 1: is your first time here. This is what we're granding

516
00:25:09,760 --> 00:25:12,080
Speaker 1: to flow, the lyrics, the production of features, the execution

517
00:25:12,160 --> 00:25:14,680
Speaker 1: and replay value, and the overall I'll start it off

518
00:25:14,760 --> 00:25:16,119
Speaker 1: and then I'll pass it to Roden.

519
00:25:16,160 --> 00:25:18,399
Speaker 2: We'll just go around the room flow.

520
00:25:19,600 --> 00:25:22,920
Speaker 1: I wanted to give him an A minus based off

521
00:25:22,960 --> 00:25:25,080
Speaker 1: of all of the hype joints that I fucked with,

522
00:25:25,680 --> 00:25:27,600
Speaker 1: but I had to downgrade him to a B plus

523
00:25:27,880 --> 00:25:30,639
Speaker 1: because some of it is very simple.

524
00:25:30,840 --> 00:25:32,920
Speaker 2: But I think he did an excellent job. So I'm flow.

525
00:25:32,920 --> 00:25:36,320
Speaker 2: I'm at a B plus, same same B plus I could.

526
00:25:36,680 --> 00:25:37,840
Speaker 4: I couldn't justify a.

527
00:25:38,160 --> 00:25:40,639
Speaker 7: I like that he's trying different things with his flow,

528
00:25:41,280 --> 00:25:43,240
Speaker 7: but I still think he has room to grow with that.

529
00:25:43,440 --> 00:25:45,480
Speaker 7: You know what I'm saying. So that's why I gave

530
00:25:45,600 --> 00:25:48,320
Speaker 7: him a bleep B plus because I can see it.

531
00:25:48,680 --> 00:25:51,120
Speaker 7: I could see him really refining that and A get

532
00:25:51,119 --> 00:25:53,560
Speaker 7: me better, So you got room to grow on the

533
00:25:53,560 --> 00:25:57,760
Speaker 7: flow on flow, that's fair be.

534
00:25:57,840 --> 00:25:59,920
Speaker 5: For me as well. Yeah, I'm going to be. I

535
00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:00,440
Speaker 5: think that's just.

536
00:26:00,600 --> 00:26:03,520
Speaker 6: I think that's a strong suit of his, is the

537
00:26:03,520 --> 00:26:06,920
Speaker 6: flow in the way he says though yeap lyrics.

538
00:26:06,960 --> 00:26:11,719
Speaker 1: I'm at a A minus and for me, I feel,

539
00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:12,919
Speaker 1: I feel I feel this.

540
00:26:13,040 --> 00:26:17,240
Speaker 4: Look heart attext over there, bro, that's cool.

541
00:26:17,160 --> 00:26:20,280
Speaker 2: That's cool. I'm big on introspection.

542
00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:23,520
Speaker 1: I'm big on peeling back the layers, and I feel

543
00:26:23,560 --> 00:26:26,040
Speaker 1: he did that with this. And even though he does

544
00:26:26,119 --> 00:26:29,080
Speaker 1: have some Simpleton type joints on your A B, I

545
00:26:29,160 --> 00:26:33,960
Speaker 1: don't disagree with that one. The lyrics that are meant

546
00:26:34,040 --> 00:26:36,520
Speaker 1: to hit you, they hit you. You know what I'm saying,

547
00:26:36,840 --> 00:26:40,640
Speaker 1: No security, no blame. Highway ninety five Part two. I'm

548
00:26:40,640 --> 00:26:42,840
Speaker 1: not a lyricist. They really hit you. And I think

549
00:26:42,840 --> 00:26:46,080
Speaker 1: it shows the growth of him as a lyricist. And

550
00:26:46,160 --> 00:26:48,760
Speaker 1: I think this is his best lyrical work today. I'm

551
00:26:48,760 --> 00:26:50,440
Speaker 1: at a A minus for a Baby King.

552
00:26:50,920 --> 00:26:54,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, I can't. I can't go a minus. I'm going

553
00:26:54,440 --> 00:26:54,679
Speaker 4: to be.

554
00:26:57,040 --> 00:26:57,320
Speaker 3: Again.

555
00:26:57,359 --> 00:26:59,280
Speaker 7: I think he I think he has room to grow

556
00:26:59,320 --> 00:27:02,760
Speaker 7: there too as well, if I'm being honest, like, it's

557
00:27:02,840 --> 00:27:06,520
Speaker 7: just it's the lit the list. I can't put them

558
00:27:06,560 --> 00:27:10,520
Speaker 7: up there with the A lyricists. There's no way.

559
00:27:11,119 --> 00:27:14,520
Speaker 1: But I'm not I'm not comparing the other lyrics.

560
00:27:14,520 --> 00:27:17,600
Speaker 2: This is just Baby King, like this is Baby King's box.

561
00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:20,119
Speaker 2: Like I'm rating Baby King against Baby King. I'm not

562
00:27:20,200 --> 00:27:22,760
Speaker 2: rating Baby King against anybody else. We reviewed.

563
00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:24,440
Speaker 4: I got you, so I rate I rate a little

564
00:27:24,440 --> 00:27:25,080
Speaker 4: differently then.

565
00:27:25,160 --> 00:27:28,199
Speaker 7: Yeah, if you still be going lyrics, I'm going like,

566
00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:31,360
Speaker 7: I'm just kind of comparing to know you're in hip hop. Yeah,

567
00:27:31,359 --> 00:27:34,560
Speaker 7: I'm in versus hip hop. I grade versus the artist.

568
00:27:34,760 --> 00:27:36,280
Speaker 7: I got you, I got you, so yeah, I'm going

569
00:27:36,320 --> 00:27:38,080
Speaker 7: to definitely be on lyrics.

570
00:27:38,880 --> 00:27:40,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, I gotter Be. I think it was some good

571
00:27:40,320 --> 00:27:43,399
Speaker 3: storytelling here. I think in terms of him growing in

572
00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:45,119
Speaker 3: the area, I think you already told the I'm not

573
00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:45,680
Speaker 3: a lyricist.

574
00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:46,840
Speaker 5: Are you thinking?

575
00:27:47,240 --> 00:27:48,240
Speaker 2: Weren't just saying that?

576
00:27:48,760 --> 00:27:53,560
Speaker 6: I think, nah that Yeah, there's a lot of truth

577
00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:53,920
Speaker 6: to that.

578
00:27:54,320 --> 00:27:58,240
Speaker 5: Yeah that's it's some truth to it, but it ain't.

579
00:27:58,600 --> 00:28:01,879
Speaker 8: It's like because you can't be around Kendrick is a

580
00:28:01,920 --> 00:28:05,080
Speaker 8: political prize winning like artists, like what we tell you

581
00:28:05,720 --> 00:28:06,320
Speaker 8: can learn to.

582
00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:08,800
Speaker 5: Be a lyricists if you need to be. Yeah, I

583
00:28:08,840 --> 00:28:09,639
Speaker 5: think it'd be better.

584
00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:14,479
Speaker 8: Yeah, Yeah, I'm gonna c the average their average lyrics.

585
00:28:15,240 --> 00:28:18,400
Speaker 8: Nothing floored me ever, Like through the thirty four minutes

586
00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:20,560
Speaker 8: of listening to this projects, I was like, damn he

587
00:28:20,680 --> 00:28:23,280
Speaker 8: ripping there, Like it was never that it was creative.

588
00:28:23,359 --> 00:28:25,120
Speaker 8: It was good pockets that he got in he used

589
00:28:25,119 --> 00:28:27,880
Speaker 8: his voice inflection. Well we were everything I'll say there.

590
00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:31,200
Speaker 8: But as far as actually talking about something, no, no.

591
00:28:31,720 --> 00:28:32,840
Speaker 4: He was talking about stuff.

592
00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:34,560
Speaker 2: It's just you.

593
00:28:34,160 --> 00:28:35,879
Speaker 5: Lyric It wasn't lyrical stuff. You're right.

594
00:28:35,960 --> 00:28:37,960
Speaker 7: There was stuff like yeah, yeah, yeah, he was talking

595
00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:40,560
Speaker 7: about stuff, but it whether it complax. It wasn't any

596
00:28:40,560 --> 00:28:43,680
Speaker 7: impressive rhyme schemes or patterns or anything like that, Like.

597
00:28:44,320 --> 00:28:47,040
Speaker 1: But wait, hold on, but but does does lyrics really

598
00:28:47,080 --> 00:28:51,440
Speaker 1: define the complexity of the rhyme pattern? Because to me,

599
00:28:51,640 --> 00:28:54,840
Speaker 1: I'm putting more stock into the weight of the words

600
00:28:54,880 --> 00:28:57,960
Speaker 1: that he's saying, like not the way he's saying it

601
00:28:58,000 --> 00:29:01,600
Speaker 1: is more flow in my opinion, And but the weights

602
00:29:01,640 --> 00:29:04,479
Speaker 1: of what he's saying is very heavy, bro like, like

603
00:29:04,560 --> 00:29:08,720
Speaker 1: he's not talking about light topics here real quick, that's fair.

604
00:29:08,880 --> 00:29:14,600
Speaker 1: Where would you put Jesu's lyrics g Z? Yeah, at

605
00:29:14,840 --> 00:29:17,719
Speaker 1: g Z's best. I give him like a B plus.

606
00:29:17,560 --> 00:29:21,000
Speaker 7: GZ if you see if on your scale, I feel like,

607
00:29:21,320 --> 00:29:22,520
Speaker 7: based on what you said.

608
00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:25,000
Speaker 4: Jesus should be an a minus too, based on what you're saying.

609
00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:29,880
Speaker 1: But g Z rarely gets into like like j Z's

610
00:29:29,960 --> 00:29:33,960
Speaker 1: whole rap persona, like ninety eight percent of it is trapping.

611
00:29:35,560 --> 00:29:36,960
Speaker 5: Yeah, but it's the vivid trappings.

612
00:29:37,040 --> 00:29:39,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, but it's the lyrics. But you're saying, like the words,

613
00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:45,320
Speaker 4: like the words he's he's saying, it hits, it hits.

614
00:29:45,080 --> 00:29:48,120
Speaker 7: Look, look, b plus ain't that far away from a minus.

615
00:29:48,160 --> 00:29:49,840
Speaker 7: I get you, You're right, you know what I'm saying.

616
00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:53,480
Speaker 1: So so it may be how I feel that day

617
00:29:53,520 --> 00:29:55,560
Speaker 1: that it might be an a minus, but you know,

618
00:29:55,600 --> 00:29:57,960
Speaker 1: it's definitely a plus at minimum.

619
00:29:58,200 --> 00:30:11,120
Speaker 7: Last time I checked, I was the man that ship.

620
00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:08,400
Speaker 3: Landed.

621
00:30:08,680 --> 00:30:12,600
Speaker 7: It's effective based on what your you know, your carteron.

622
00:30:12,600 --> 00:30:14,000
Speaker 7: That's why I was saying, That's why I asked to.

623
00:30:25,040 --> 00:30:28,920
Speaker 5: Jesus is definitely not a definitely a minus right there.

624
00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:32,560
Speaker 6: Yeah, So king lyrically, I'm going to see minus is

625
00:30:32,680 --> 00:30:37,720
Speaker 6: below average, slightly below average. He just I'm not necessarily

626
00:30:37,720 --> 00:30:40,040
Speaker 6: looking for below spiritual miracle.

627
00:30:40,880 --> 00:30:44,600
Speaker 5: His average well minus though still average.

628
00:30:44,280 --> 00:30:47,280
Speaker 1: He'sa ad below average though minus is a little below average. Yeah,

629
00:30:47,280 --> 00:30:50,320
Speaker 1: this is slightly average and it took a punch.

630
00:30:52,240 --> 00:30:52,800
Speaker 4: Not I'm not.

631
00:30:52,760 --> 00:30:57,120
Speaker 6: Looking for lyrical, spiritual miracle ship. But I just sometimes

632
00:30:57,160 --> 00:30:59,200
Speaker 6: when he mails it in, especially with the some some

633
00:30:59,280 --> 00:31:03,400
Speaker 6: bars are just sound to fix, uh the circus joint.

634
00:31:03,400 --> 00:31:05,400
Speaker 6: He just he did the cave man booga woogle woggle

635
00:31:05,440 --> 00:31:06,760
Speaker 6: for a couple of bars.

636
00:31:06,960 --> 00:31:10,960
Speaker 3: Larrics, and I was like, that ship wasn't funny.

637
00:31:11,360 --> 00:31:11,720
Speaker 5: The song.

638
00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:13,800
Speaker 6: I actually don't mind that song on some energy. I'm

639
00:31:13,840 --> 00:31:17,160
Speaker 6: in the car and I actually don't mind it. Yeah,

640
00:31:17,320 --> 00:31:19,440
Speaker 6: it took me. It took me out of it. It

641
00:31:19,520 --> 00:31:22,800
Speaker 6: took me out of it. You to Spike, absolutely, yeah,

642
00:31:23,040 --> 00:31:26,920
Speaker 6: it took me out. That's but but yeah, lyrically, he

643
00:31:27,040 --> 00:31:28,240
Speaker 6: has plenty of rule to grow.

644
00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:31,200
Speaker 4: So I don't like that boom bo boom boom.

645
00:31:31,600 --> 00:31:33,800
Speaker 5: See, I don't like that ship person. That's just not

646
00:31:33,880 --> 00:31:34,479
Speaker 5: my taste.

647
00:31:34,600 --> 00:31:36,720
Speaker 4: What about future when he do that ship, I don't

648
00:31:36,760 --> 00:31:37,280
Speaker 4: like that either.

649
00:31:39,600 --> 00:31:43,600
Speaker 6: Kanye's I did like when he did that.

650
00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:46,560
Speaker 5: That was okay, all that ship? You like that, right?

651
00:31:46,600 --> 00:31:47,240
Speaker 5: That's what was fire?

652
00:31:50,880 --> 00:31:53,640
Speaker 2: Okay, Look, I know that.

653
00:31:53,640 --> 00:31:55,200
Speaker 5: In the Smithsonian.

654
00:31:56,400 --> 00:31:59,400
Speaker 2: Minus for lyrics, the next category is production.

655
00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:04,200
Speaker 1: I'm a I'm at a I'm at A B plus,

656
00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:08,240
Speaker 1: I can maybe downgrade to A BEE obviously, I'm really

657
00:32:08,280 --> 00:32:12,040
Speaker 1: here for the hype joints. Actually, I'm a downgrade to

658
00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:14,920
Speaker 1: I'm gonna stay out of B plus some of the

659
00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:17,840
Speaker 1: simple ship like Birds and the Bees, and that's very

660
00:32:17,960 --> 00:32:20,120
Speaker 1: that's a very simple beat. I feel like, you know,

661
00:32:20,120 --> 00:32:22,800
Speaker 1: I could give my son a fucking drum machine and

662
00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:23,480
Speaker 1: he could come up with.

663
00:32:23,440 --> 00:32:24,080
Speaker 2: Something like that.

664
00:32:25,280 --> 00:32:28,920
Speaker 1: But the other joints is what elevates the overall grade.

665
00:32:29,360 --> 00:32:31,720
Speaker 1: Like even though no security wasn't crazy like that. I

666
00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:35,000
Speaker 1: think the beat was good there Casino Obviously it's crazy.

667
00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:37,240
Speaker 2: To be switch all of that house money. I'm not

668
00:32:37,280 --> 00:32:37,960
Speaker 2: a lyricist.

669
00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:40,480
Speaker 1: Even sex appeal with too short, I feel like that

670
00:32:40,480 --> 00:32:43,240
Speaker 1: that that that's another joint that could be commercial, you know.

671
00:32:43,320 --> 00:32:45,800
Speaker 2: So like I like the overall production, but there was

672
00:32:47,680 --> 00:32:49,600
Speaker 2: very simple ship here, so that's why I had to

673
00:32:49,800 --> 00:32:50,400
Speaker 2: downgrade it.

674
00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:52,400
Speaker 5: I mean I was confusing.

675
00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:55,440
Speaker 4: That grade is confusing B plus.

676
00:32:55,800 --> 00:32:58,440
Speaker 7: I mean his production is in the A area for me,

677
00:32:59,040 --> 00:33:02,320
Speaker 7: I feel like that's what this album really shine for sure?

678
00:33:02,520 --> 00:33:07,000
Speaker 7: For sure, for sure is this is what give production

679
00:33:07,080 --> 00:33:10,959
Speaker 7: to A Yes, absolutely, I think the production is what

680
00:33:11,120 --> 00:33:14,640
Speaker 7: kept it kept it going, kept it like it kind

681
00:33:14,680 --> 00:33:18,480
Speaker 7: of just it was the glue to me on this album.

682
00:33:18,760 --> 00:33:20,800
Speaker 7: The production was the glue on this album. It sounds

683
00:33:20,840 --> 00:33:27,320
Speaker 7: really good in the car too. Yeah, so yeah, yeah,

684
00:33:27,320 --> 00:33:30,080
Speaker 7: I think the production is what this album really shines.

685
00:33:30,120 --> 00:33:33,840
Speaker 3: Honestly, I'm at A minus. Yeah. Yeah, I mean I

686
00:33:34,240 --> 00:33:38,120
Speaker 3: Cansino House money. I'm not a lyricist. Sets appeal at

687
00:33:38,160 --> 00:33:42,760
Speaker 3: West Coast Joint nine five Circuit Circus. I'm not a

688
00:33:42,760 --> 00:33:44,600
Speaker 3: fan of dramatic girl, but I think the beat is

689
00:33:44,600 --> 00:33:46,760
Speaker 3: produced really really well. I don't like the song, but yeah,

690
00:33:46,800 --> 00:33:49,120
Speaker 3: I think I think the production is very very strong.

691
00:33:49,160 --> 00:33:53,440
Speaker 3: So shout out to Cardo and some production credits on here, don.

692
00:33:53,400 --> 00:33:54,520
Speaker 5: Ja Keem too.

693
00:33:54,800 --> 00:33:59,280
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah so you said Circuit Circus restyle.

694
00:33:59,760 --> 00:34:03,480
Speaker 6: Yeah it hard hard man.

695
00:34:03,760 --> 00:34:05,760
Speaker 3: It's a lot of different producers on here. I can't

696
00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:07,840
Speaker 3: shout them all out, but yeah, they did. They did

697
00:34:07,840 --> 00:34:08,760
Speaker 3: their thing on the production.

698
00:34:08,960 --> 00:34:10,520
Speaker 5: I'm at an A on production too. I think that's

699
00:34:10,520 --> 00:34:12,680
Speaker 5: a strong point of this album. It is. This is

700
00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:15,600
Speaker 5: what kept me interested in it. Like this Niggat beats

701
00:34:15,600 --> 00:34:16,720
Speaker 5: on here, so I'm.

702
00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:20,359
Speaker 6: Not just having a hard beat, but the way some

703
00:34:20,400 --> 00:34:24,400
Speaker 6: of the transitions here, Yeah, that the production is strong.

704
00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:26,800
Speaker 4: It's like the glue man, I matter be plus.

705
00:34:27,480 --> 00:34:28,640
Speaker 5: I'm not saying that far off.

706
00:34:28,719 --> 00:34:31,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I'm not that far off. Niggas got as

707
00:34:31,480 --> 00:34:37,480
Speaker 1: and a minus be plused right there. Features so we

708
00:34:37,560 --> 00:34:43,000
Speaker 1: got k Dot, Mama Boyd and Shay Crew. We don't

709
00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:45,280
Speaker 1: know how to say that name. We apologize if you

710
00:34:45,360 --> 00:34:47,760
Speaker 1: butchering that. I'm got to be plus on the features.

711
00:34:47,760 --> 00:34:51,080
Speaker 1: I feel like everybody that came to play played well.

712
00:34:51,480 --> 00:34:53,520
Speaker 1: You know, they didn't hurt nobody else, you know what

713
00:34:53,560 --> 00:34:55,600
Speaker 1: I'm saying. I think I think they added to what

714
00:34:56,840 --> 00:34:59,640
Speaker 1: the intent was of the music. So I'm matter be

715
00:34:59,680 --> 00:35:01,279
Speaker 1: plus on the features.

716
00:35:01,760 --> 00:35:04,000
Speaker 7: Yeah, I'm with you and be plus and you forgot

717
00:35:04,080 --> 00:35:12,080
Speaker 7: too short. That's that's too short. But yeah, yeah, I'm

718
00:35:12,120 --> 00:35:15,279
Speaker 7: be plus on the features. I feel they didn't take

719
00:35:15,320 --> 00:35:18,759
Speaker 7: anything away. I don't feel like they super added anything either,

720
00:35:19,320 --> 00:35:21,680
Speaker 7: but they but they just fit on the track, kind

721
00:35:21,680 --> 00:35:24,040
Speaker 7: of like how Tyler uses people sometimes. I feel like

722
00:35:24,080 --> 00:35:26,600
Speaker 7: that's what he did with the features on Here be

723
00:35:26,680 --> 00:35:30,239
Speaker 7: plus for me, I'm gonna be anytime you can have

724
00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:32,920
Speaker 7: too Kendrick features and it not overshadow what you're doing

725
00:35:32,960 --> 00:35:33,600
Speaker 7: on your album.

726
00:35:34,040 --> 00:35:34,879
Speaker 5: I think that's a win.

727
00:35:35,040 --> 00:35:37,879
Speaker 8: But but Kendrick still came to play, but it wasn't

728
00:35:38,400 --> 00:35:40,560
Speaker 8: what everybody was talking about after his album. So I

729
00:35:40,600 --> 00:35:42,560
Speaker 8: think Kendrick came, did his job, got out of there.

730
00:35:43,000 --> 00:35:44,680
Speaker 5: He used it where he needed to. And the other

731
00:35:44,719 --> 00:35:46,360
Speaker 5: two features I was fine with as will.

732
00:35:48,160 --> 00:35:50,880
Speaker 4: Man and I like Kendrick on here too, like on

733
00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:51,680
Speaker 4: that one but he.

734
00:35:54,760 --> 00:35:59,600
Speaker 3: Ain't be telling the aliens.

735
00:36:00,719 --> 00:36:02,640
Speaker 4: I really like the one that he's not listed as

736
00:36:02,680 --> 00:36:03,120
Speaker 4: a feature.

737
00:36:03,480 --> 00:36:05,360
Speaker 5: How like walking in the party.

738
00:36:05,680 --> 00:36:08,719
Speaker 7: I don't feel nobody man, Yeah that I like how

739
00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:11,120
Speaker 7: he can't Yeah that ship was hard.

740
00:36:11,239 --> 00:36:12,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, that'sh it hard bro.

741
00:36:12,719 --> 00:36:16,440
Speaker 6: Yeah, that's my favorite feature on there, the hook. And

742
00:36:16,520 --> 00:36:18,279
Speaker 6: I like when artists get utilized like that, Like I

743
00:36:18,320 --> 00:36:21,560
Speaker 6: don't always need a sixteen Sometimes you just get creative

744
00:36:21,600 --> 00:36:22,479
Speaker 6: do a dope ass hook.

745
00:36:23,040 --> 00:36:24,080
Speaker 5: So I give it a B.

746
00:36:24,880 --> 00:36:26,680
Speaker 6: Obviously it's not a ton to choose from. It's a

747
00:36:26,680 --> 00:36:28,920
Speaker 6: short project, but I'm not a too short fan. But

748
00:36:28,960 --> 00:36:31,480
Speaker 6: I didn't mind the first though he didn't sound. No,

749
00:36:31,640 --> 00:36:34,600
Speaker 6: I never really grew up big on too shorts. Mine

750
00:36:34,680 --> 00:36:35,120
Speaker 6: is getting it.

751
00:36:35,239 --> 00:36:38,840
Speaker 5: That's my ship that was ten years after. That's that

752
00:36:38,960 --> 00:36:42,640
Speaker 5: ship is ship it is. But be for the features.

753
00:36:42,920 --> 00:36:45,640
Speaker 5: You know, I'm a player. It's crazy not being a

754
00:36:45,680 --> 00:36:46,880
Speaker 5: too short fan of a hot.

755
00:36:47,680 --> 00:36:55,320
Speaker 3: Yes, it's not for its not that was that was

756
00:36:55,400 --> 00:36:56,120
Speaker 3: my first favorite.

757
00:36:56,920 --> 00:36:59,000
Speaker 4: Yeah that's five.

758
00:37:00,480 --> 00:37:01,120
Speaker 5: Well, yeah, I'm just.

759
00:37:04,920 --> 00:37:06,120
Speaker 4: Bro why he wearing.

760
00:37:12,600 --> 00:37:18,080
Speaker 7: Next category. The next category is execution. I'm at an

761
00:37:18,080 --> 00:37:19,360
Speaker 7: A minus on execution.

762
00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:21,120
Speaker 3: Same same.

763
00:37:21,320 --> 00:37:23,600
Speaker 7: If I would listen to this one two times, I

764
00:37:23,920 --> 00:37:25,680
Speaker 7: just disgree would have been a lot lower because, like

765
00:37:25,719 --> 00:37:29,800
Speaker 7: I said, it was turbulence or whatever. But as I

766
00:37:29,880 --> 00:37:32,239
Speaker 7: settle into the album, I'm glad I listened to it

767
00:37:32,480 --> 00:37:36,080
Speaker 7: a few more times and the sequencing is actually really

768
00:37:36,200 --> 00:37:36,719
Speaker 7: nice on here.

769
00:37:36,800 --> 00:37:38,279
Speaker 4: So I'm at an A minus as well.

770
00:37:39,640 --> 00:37:40,399
Speaker 3: I'm at a B plus.

771
00:37:41,640 --> 00:37:43,520
Speaker 5: I am going to B plus as well. I think

772
00:37:43,520 --> 00:37:46,440
Speaker 5: it was put together very well. Yeah I'll give it.

773
00:37:46,560 --> 00:37:47,400
Speaker 5: I'll give it a solid B.

774
00:37:49,719 --> 00:37:49,919
Speaker 3: Yeah.

775
00:37:50,440 --> 00:37:51,840
Speaker 5: I didn't take anything wrong with the way it was

776
00:37:51,880 --> 00:37:52,279
Speaker 5: put together.

777
00:37:53,840 --> 00:37:57,520
Speaker 2: But next category is replay value. I'm at an A.

778
00:37:58,480 --> 00:38:00,359
Speaker 2: Like I said before, I'm bumping this in the whip,

779
00:38:00,480 --> 00:38:02,439
Speaker 2: so replay value high.

780
00:38:03,400 --> 00:38:05,080
Speaker 7: I got you, I am bumping it. I don't know

781
00:38:05,120 --> 00:38:07,239
Speaker 7: if I'm at an A bumping it. I'm at more

782
00:38:07,280 --> 00:38:11,040
Speaker 7: of a B plus bumping it replay value. So yeah,

783
00:38:11,160 --> 00:38:13,720
Speaker 7: but that's that's hot for me though, because I listened

784
00:38:13,760 --> 00:38:17,080
Speaker 7: to different ship and and I like the ship that

785
00:38:17,200 --> 00:38:20,560
Speaker 7: I like, so, you know, it's hard to get playing

786
00:38:20,640 --> 00:38:21,080
Speaker 7: my ride.

787
00:38:21,120 --> 00:38:22,719
Speaker 5: And I like when I got so much other ship

788
00:38:22,760 --> 00:38:24,960
Speaker 5: that I like. So I got it at a B

789
00:38:25,080 --> 00:38:28,759
Speaker 5: plus replay value B plus for me, I got it.

790
00:38:31,160 --> 00:38:31,399
Speaker 5: I don't.

791
00:38:33,000 --> 00:38:35,279
Speaker 8: I don't even that's because I saved a couple of

792
00:38:35,320 --> 00:38:37,840
Speaker 8: songs in the atom to playlist, something like that I

793
00:38:37,960 --> 00:38:40,879
Speaker 8: got you. Yeah, I'm going to be minus because there

794
00:38:40,960 --> 00:38:42,480
Speaker 8: are a couple on here I would save for, like

795
00:38:42,560 --> 00:38:44,719
Speaker 8: the gym, all the turned up joints.

796
00:38:44,760 --> 00:38:46,719
Speaker 5: I'm saving for the gym, or a good run for

797
00:38:46,840 --> 00:38:52,879
Speaker 5: show was a good spun that was good they are show.

798
00:38:53,080 --> 00:38:58,200
Speaker 2: Overall overall, I'm at an A minus on this project.

799
00:38:58,360 --> 00:39:01,200
Speaker 1: I felt like baby King, you know, the biggest thing

800
00:39:01,280 --> 00:39:04,640
Speaker 1: for me, like I said at the beginning, was the introspection.

801
00:39:05,440 --> 00:39:05,919
Speaker 2: That's cool.

802
00:39:06,080 --> 00:39:11,680
Speaker 1: That's the introspection and the growth as an artist was

803
00:39:11,760 --> 00:39:14,480
Speaker 1: one hundred percent there for me. I thought, obviously he

804
00:39:14,680 --> 00:39:19,440
Speaker 1: executed this well, and the replay values there man for me.

805
00:39:19,840 --> 00:39:21,760
Speaker 1: So overall A minus.

806
00:39:21,800 --> 00:39:23,400
Speaker 7: I think this is one of the better projects that

807
00:39:23,480 --> 00:39:26,600
Speaker 7: we've heard so far and in short twenty twenty six. Now,

808
00:39:26,719 --> 00:39:28,880
Speaker 7: I do think this is gonna age very real as

809
00:39:28,960 --> 00:39:31,360
Speaker 7: the year continues, Like, I think people gonna catch on

810
00:39:31,480 --> 00:39:33,800
Speaker 7: to it, They're gonna get said, they're gonna have favorites

811
00:39:33,840 --> 00:39:34,480
Speaker 7: on it, all that.

812
00:39:34,640 --> 00:39:36,360
Speaker 4: I think all that's gonna happen with this album.

813
00:39:36,960 --> 00:39:38,800
Speaker 5: But for me, overall is a B plus.

814
00:39:40,080 --> 00:39:43,880
Speaker 7: And I still think he got more in him, you

815
00:39:43,920 --> 00:39:46,040
Speaker 7: know what I'm saying, Like, even though this is good,

816
00:39:46,239 --> 00:39:48,400
Speaker 7: I still think he has more in them. So for me,

817
00:39:48,960 --> 00:39:50,759
Speaker 7: it's it's at a B plus. But that's that's not

818
00:39:50,880 --> 00:39:56,239
Speaker 7: saying that it's not good. B plus is very solisty. Yeah,

819
00:39:56,239 --> 00:39:57,200
Speaker 7: I'm gonna be plus too.

820
00:39:58,360 --> 00:40:03,440
Speaker 8: Overall be be minus, be minus. It was fun he

821
00:40:03,560 --> 00:40:06,560
Speaker 8: did with he. I didn't have high expectations. I walked aways.

822
00:40:07,520 --> 00:40:10,080
Speaker 8: It's impressed. So yeah, be minus.

823
00:40:10,760 --> 00:40:11,960
Speaker 5: I give it a C plus.

824
00:40:12,360 --> 00:40:16,520
Speaker 6: But there's a world where he can make something that

825
00:40:16,520 --> 00:40:18,480
Speaker 6: would cause me to call it a beat though that

826
00:40:18,520 --> 00:40:20,560
Speaker 6: would call He can make a project that I would

827
00:40:20,600 --> 00:40:23,480
Speaker 6: call a B but this is not this one though,

828
00:40:23,760 --> 00:40:26,000
Speaker 6: I got you. I think there's a world where that exists. Though,

829
00:40:26,560 --> 00:40:28,600
Speaker 6: is this gonna end up on y'all Top teen? You

830
00:40:28,680 --> 00:40:29,879
Speaker 6: think I know it's dumb early?

831
00:40:30,520 --> 00:40:31,400
Speaker 3: It's dumb early.

832
00:40:32,000 --> 00:40:32,719
Speaker 5: That's why I don't.

833
00:40:33,120 --> 00:40:35,840
Speaker 1: I don't know personally, I don't know. I don't know

834
00:40:36,920 --> 00:40:40,840
Speaker 1: because there's so many other artists that are gonna be dropping. Yeah, okay,

835
00:40:41,400 --> 00:40:44,640
Speaker 1: Like I would say, from from the projects so far

836
00:40:44,680 --> 00:40:47,400
Speaker 1: I've listened to this year, it would be in my

837
00:40:47,520 --> 00:40:49,960
Speaker 1: top three as of now, like February.

838
00:40:50,040 --> 00:40:50,920
Speaker 2: What day is it today?

839
00:40:51,280 --> 00:40:54,200
Speaker 1: The twenty fifth, February twenty fifth, Wednesday, February twenty fifth,

840
00:40:54,360 --> 00:40:56,680
Speaker 1: twenty twenty six, it being my top three that I

841
00:40:56,840 --> 00:40:59,239
Speaker 1: listened to so far that drop this year, and.

842
00:40:59,239 --> 00:41:01,680
Speaker 7: I'm glad you brought. That's a good point. Like P

843
00:41:01,880 --> 00:41:05,400
Speaker 7: plus albums usually don't make my top tens. Usually all

844
00:41:05,440 --> 00:41:07,239
Speaker 7: the ones that I've had a throughout the year, those

845
00:41:07,400 --> 00:41:09,640
Speaker 7: be the ones that usually make my top tens. And

846
00:41:09,719 --> 00:41:12,600
Speaker 7: I'm not quite sure this would got Maybe maybe by

847
00:41:12,640 --> 00:41:14,440
Speaker 7: the mid year, because it's a B plus, it might

848
00:41:14,520 --> 00:41:17,520
Speaker 7: make my top five, but but yeah, top ten, I don't.

849
00:41:17,560 --> 00:41:20,160
Speaker 4: I don't see it, you know, because I know who

850
00:41:20,360 --> 00:41:23,440
Speaker 4: I know. Some other stuff is gonna come out more.

851
00:41:23,640 --> 00:41:26,600
Speaker 7: But I respect y'all text though, even though y'all wasn't

852
00:41:26,680 --> 00:41:31,279
Speaker 7: high on the album. I like the chances that you're

853
00:41:31,320 --> 00:41:34,040
Speaker 7: giving him because I do think he's a talented. I

854
00:41:34,080 --> 00:41:36,920
Speaker 7: think he's talented and I think he has a He

855
00:41:37,040 --> 00:41:40,640
Speaker 7: moves to move and man, I see something in him.

856
00:41:40,680 --> 00:41:42,719
Speaker 5: Many rights for Kendrick. It's good.

857
00:41:46,280 --> 00:41:49,000
Speaker 2: So that's that and hip Hop appreciate y'all.

858
00:41:49,560 --> 00:41:54,520
Speaker 1: Uh shout out on Deck TV podcast had to stop

859
00:41:54,600 --> 00:41:55,879
Speaker 1: him before you know what I'm saying, y'all.

860
00:41:55,920 --> 00:41:59,000
Speaker 2: Y'all roasted them in the common section. Y'all coming through.

861
00:41:59,560 --> 00:42:01,600
Speaker 2: Uh be keen man, Look what's your grades?

862
00:42:01,640 --> 00:42:04,320
Speaker 1: You already know the conversation after the conversation is in

863
00:42:04,400 --> 00:42:07,120
Speaker 1: the comments section. Put your grades in there. Let us

864
00:42:07,160 --> 00:42:09,560
Speaker 1: know your thoughts and we'll catch you on the next one.

865
00:42:09,680 --> 00:42:11,520
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