1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,440 Speaker 1: So here's a question for you. What do you do 2 00:00:03,279 --> 00:00:05,680 Speaker 1: with a tire swing when it rains. 3 00:00:06,440 --> 00:00:07,240 Speaker 2: Well, it's been. 4 00:00:07,080 --> 00:00:09,400 Speaker 3: A long time since I've lived anywhere. We lived in 5 00:00:09,400 --> 00:00:11,160 Speaker 3: a house that had a tire swing. But you just 6 00:00:11,240 --> 00:00:13,039 Speaker 3: you wait till the rain stops, and then you go 7 00:00:13,119 --> 00:00:15,440 Speaker 3: to the tire swing and you dump out all the 8 00:00:15,480 --> 00:00:16,360 Speaker 3: water that collects it. 9 00:00:16,400 --> 00:00:19,160 Speaker 2: That's right. You don't want that water sitting there breeding 10 00:00:19,160 --> 00:00:22,000 Speaker 2: ground for mosquitoes. It could get moldy and rancid and 11 00:00:22,040 --> 00:00:23,920 Speaker 2: all nasty. You don't want that. You gotta dump it out, right, 12 00:00:23,920 --> 00:00:24,520 Speaker 2: You dump it out. 13 00:00:24,560 --> 00:00:26,560 Speaker 1: And plus, if you want to swing on the tire swing, 14 00:00:26,840 --> 00:00:27,600 Speaker 1: you'll get all wet. 15 00:00:27,640 --> 00:00:29,159 Speaker 2: If you don't do that, it's a short sweat if 16 00:00:29,160 --> 00:00:30,360 Speaker 2: you don't do That's what we had. 17 00:00:30,200 --> 00:00:32,600 Speaker 1: To do at the farmhouse. So it was a big 18 00:00:32,640 --> 00:00:35,800 Speaker 1: white farmhouse. It was on Social Road road, right there 19 00:00:35,840 --> 00:00:38,560 Speaker 1: where the road bended. This is you growing up, yeah, 20 00:00:38,600 --> 00:00:42,160 Speaker 1: And if you lived in the area, you knew that farmhouse. 21 00:00:42,280 --> 00:00:45,720 Speaker 1: Everybody knew it. It had a little white picket fence 22 00:00:45,760 --> 00:00:49,599 Speaker 1: that we would practice our balance beam skills on. And 23 00:00:49,720 --> 00:00:50,600 Speaker 1: the fence was. 24 00:00:50,640 --> 00:00:51,840 Speaker 2: Right there by the side door. 25 00:00:52,159 --> 00:00:54,400 Speaker 1: And every time you open or close the side door 26 00:00:54,440 --> 00:00:58,000 Speaker 1: the screen door would slam shut, and if somebody knocked 27 00:00:58,000 --> 00:01:00,600 Speaker 1: on the front door, you knew right away that they 28 00:01:00,600 --> 00:01:03,800 Speaker 1: were there soliciting something because friends and family they all 29 00:01:03,880 --> 00:01:05,720 Speaker 1: knew we used the side door. 30 00:01:05,920 --> 00:01:06,200 Speaker 2: Sure. 31 00:01:06,720 --> 00:01:11,080 Speaker 1: So a lot of land. We had crops or soybeans 32 00:01:11,640 --> 00:01:15,679 Speaker 1: and a little bit of corn. There was some cows, 33 00:01:17,200 --> 00:01:19,240 Speaker 1: many cats, barn cats. 34 00:01:19,280 --> 00:01:21,160 Speaker 2: Of course, you got to keep those mice in check. 35 00:01:21,000 --> 00:01:26,280 Speaker 1: That's right, and an Irish Setter dog named Kelly. And 36 00:01:26,520 --> 00:01:30,000 Speaker 1: it was the grandparents farmhouse. I lived there my sophomore 37 00:01:30,120 --> 00:01:33,040 Speaker 1: year of high school when I was learning to drive, 38 00:01:33,200 --> 00:01:35,440 Speaker 1: and Grandpa used to always tease me that I could 39 00:01:35,520 --> 00:01:37,160 Speaker 1: drive the tractor into work. 40 00:01:37,240 --> 00:01:39,240 Speaker 2: Okay, never did that. 41 00:01:39,760 --> 00:01:45,120 Speaker 1: And eventually there was a very nice convertible Jaguarre that 42 00:01:45,319 --> 00:01:48,840 Speaker 1: was parked in one of the fields and it needed 43 00:01:48,840 --> 00:01:49,480 Speaker 1: a new engine. 44 00:01:49,760 --> 00:01:52,720 Speaker 3: I believe usually if you're parking a car in a field, 45 00:01:53,120 --> 00:01:54,880 Speaker 3: it's not in drivable condition. 46 00:01:55,120 --> 00:02:00,360 Speaker 1: And the cows eventually started eating the interior of the car. Shame. 47 00:02:00,840 --> 00:02:02,760 Speaker 1: But I look back now and I think that's kind 48 00:02:02,760 --> 00:02:06,680 Speaker 1: of symbolic for a lot of generational and family farms, 49 00:02:06,840 --> 00:02:10,200 Speaker 1: is that they're very expensive to maintain, like that car, 50 00:02:10,840 --> 00:02:14,520 Speaker 1: and they get gobbled up and that's what happened to 51 00:02:15,560 --> 00:02:19,680 Speaker 1: my family farm. Our family farm. Grandparents owned it for years, 52 00:02:19,720 --> 00:02:22,960 Speaker 1: and Uncle Denny ran it for a while, and then 53 00:02:23,080 --> 00:02:26,760 Speaker 1: Uncle Charlie ran it for a while. But eventually the 54 00:02:27,080 --> 00:02:29,960 Speaker 1: land was taken over and developed. 55 00:02:30,040 --> 00:02:32,080 Speaker 3: And sure your family sold off chunks of the land 56 00:02:32,120 --> 00:02:34,600 Speaker 3: to developers just so that they could keep what they 57 00:02:34,680 --> 00:02:37,280 Speaker 3: had left because you had property taxes and all the 58 00:02:37,280 --> 00:02:38,720 Speaker 3: other expenses of owning a home shore. 59 00:02:38,800 --> 00:02:42,280 Speaker 1: And that's what a lot of farmers are experiencing right now, 60 00:02:42,560 --> 00:02:46,400 Speaker 1: is that they are cash poor and they're struggling with 61 00:02:46,760 --> 00:02:49,440 Speaker 1: weak crop prices for the third year in a row. 62 00:02:49,800 --> 00:02:53,919 Speaker 1: You got high costs for fertilizer, seed equipment, other inputs, 63 00:02:54,360 --> 00:02:59,560 Speaker 1: and definitely uncertainty over trade with China. Our President Donald Trump, 64 00:02:59,600 --> 00:03:04,359 Speaker 1: he held a rally in Iowa and he talked about 65 00:03:04,440 --> 00:03:08,919 Speaker 1: the farmers, and in Iowa they're big producers of corn 66 00:03:08,960 --> 00:03:12,359 Speaker 1: and hogs and ethanol. And one of the things they're 67 00:03:12,400 --> 00:03:16,200 Speaker 1: saying that the Trump administration is doing is they're delaying 68 00:03:16,720 --> 00:03:21,720 Speaker 1: the twenty six biofuel blending quotas, tax guidance on renewable 69 00:03:22,120 --> 00:03:25,520 Speaker 1: fuel credits and also approval for year round sales of 70 00:03:25,639 --> 00:03:30,480 Speaker 1: the ethanol gasoline, and that is also affecting farmers here 71 00:03:30,520 --> 00:03:34,720 Speaker 1: in the great state of Indiana. Sure, but he wasn't 72 00:03:34,760 --> 00:03:36,920 Speaker 1: there to really talk about farming, was he. 73 00:03:37,040 --> 00:03:39,600 Speaker 3: Well, I mean, that was the pretext of while he 74 00:03:39,640 --> 00:03:41,680 Speaker 3: was why he was there. But Donald Trump was trying 75 00:03:41,680 --> 00:03:45,480 Speaker 3: to accomplish several other things, and the actual farm part 76 00:03:45,560 --> 00:03:47,880 Speaker 3: of it was probably at the bottom of everything else 77 00:03:47,920 --> 00:03:49,200 Speaker 3: that he was trying to do while. 78 00:03:48,960 --> 00:03:49,440 Speaker 2: He was there. 79 00:03:50,160 --> 00:03:53,040 Speaker 1: One of the things that he mentioned is that if 80 00:03:53,080 --> 00:03:55,880 Speaker 1: we lose the midterms, we're going to lose everything that 81 00:03:55,920 --> 00:03:57,080 Speaker 1: we've been talking about. 82 00:03:57,800 --> 00:03:59,960 Speaker 2: I hope you remember us for the midterms. 83 00:04:00,120 --> 00:04:03,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, the worst thing about the midterms is 84 00:04:03,040 --> 00:04:06,400 Speaker 4: the fact that no matter what happens, the people that 85 00:04:06,600 --> 00:04:09,520 Speaker 4: win the presidency, you win. Even if you're a good president. 86 00:04:09,720 --> 00:04:11,200 Speaker 4: I think we had the best first year of any 87 00:04:11,200 --> 00:04:15,480 Speaker 4: president ever. Maybe they say, but even if you have 88 00:04:15,560 --> 00:04:19,840 Speaker 4: any writ it's like in the last fifty years they've 89 00:04:19,839 --> 00:04:23,200 Speaker 4: won it twice. Can you believe it? Something happens is 90 00:04:23,200 --> 00:04:26,920 Speaker 4: a screw turns with the voters. So even if it's 91 00:04:27,040 --> 00:04:30,240 Speaker 4: a Democrat or Republican, whoever wins the presidency has a 92 00:04:30,240 --> 00:04:33,719 Speaker 4: hard time with the midterm. If we lose the midterms, 93 00:04:34,320 --> 00:04:36,839 Speaker 4: You'll lose so many of the things that we're talking about, 94 00:04:36,960 --> 00:04:39,080 Speaker 4: so many of the assets that we're talking about, so 95 00:04:39,160 --> 00:04:42,200 Speaker 4: many of the tax cuts that we're talking about, and 96 00:04:42,240 --> 00:04:44,000 Speaker 4: it would lead to very bad things. 97 00:04:44,040 --> 00:04:46,279 Speaker 2: We got to win the midterms, Okay. 98 00:04:46,360 --> 00:04:49,320 Speaker 1: So he wrapped it up in this bow of ag 99 00:04:49,520 --> 00:04:53,680 Speaker 1: and then turned it into a midterm conversation that you know, 100 00:04:53,720 --> 00:04:57,440 Speaker 1: you have to keep the Republicans in office so that 101 00:04:57,560 --> 00:05:01,400 Speaker 1: they can continue with the subsidy that the farmers are getting. 102 00:05:01,440 --> 00:05:03,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, like we said, there's a lot going on here. 103 00:05:03,520 --> 00:05:06,359 Speaker 3: Farm is probably, in Donald Trump's mind, the least important 104 00:05:06,360 --> 00:05:06,800 Speaker 3: of all of it. 105 00:05:06,920 --> 00:05:09,120 Speaker 2: Number one is you know. 106 00:05:09,600 --> 00:05:12,600 Speaker 3: As Don Draper said in mad Men, if you don't 107 00:05:12,640 --> 00:05:15,080 Speaker 3: like what people are saying about, you change the conversation. 108 00:05:15,360 --> 00:05:16,240 Speaker 2: And that's what he's doing. 109 00:05:16,279 --> 00:05:18,039 Speaker 3: And that's exactly what he's doing. He does not like 110 00:05:18,040 --> 00:05:19,920 Speaker 3: what people are saying about him and his Department of 111 00:05:19,960 --> 00:05:22,800 Speaker 3: Homeland Security and Ice and everything that's going in Minneapolis. 112 00:05:22,800 --> 00:05:25,440 Speaker 3: So what does Donald Trump do? He changes the conversation. 113 00:05:25,520 --> 00:05:28,480 Speaker 3: What is Donald Trump really really good at. He's really 114 00:05:28,480 --> 00:05:30,599 Speaker 3: good in front of a crowd. So let's go on 115 00:05:30,640 --> 00:05:33,479 Speaker 3: the campaign trail and let's go to Iowa and let's 116 00:05:33,640 --> 00:05:36,200 Speaker 3: talk about things and distract people from everything that's going 117 00:05:36,200 --> 00:05:38,520 Speaker 3: on in Minneapolis. That's number one. The other part two 118 00:05:38,640 --> 00:05:42,200 Speaker 3: is is obviously this is him campaigning. 119 00:05:41,600 --> 00:05:44,560 Speaker 2: And it is it is it's more than. 120 00:05:44,480 --> 00:05:46,719 Speaker 3: Just campaigning that he has to do in rural America 121 00:05:46,720 --> 00:05:49,400 Speaker 3: and with farmers, a lot of it is consoling them. 122 00:05:49,480 --> 00:05:51,520 Speaker 3: Because think about if you're a thinking put yourself in 123 00:05:51,520 --> 00:05:54,880 Speaker 3: the shoes of a farmer as it relates to politics 124 00:05:54,960 --> 00:05:57,719 Speaker 3: in Donald Trump. Because in twenty twenty four during the election, 125 00:05:58,080 --> 00:06:00,280 Speaker 3: you were probably a big Donald Trump fan, and Donald 126 00:06:00,279 --> 00:06:02,880 Speaker 3: Trump's criss crossing the country, we got a big presidential election. 127 00:06:02,960 --> 00:06:06,080 Speaker 3: You're a farmer, You're like, yeah, no Trump. Trump gets 128 00:06:06,080 --> 00:06:09,599 Speaker 3: into office and he starts throwing up all these crazy tariffs, 129 00:06:09,760 --> 00:06:11,479 Speaker 3: and a lot of those hurt the farmers, and the 130 00:06:11,520 --> 00:06:12,200 Speaker 3: farmers are. 131 00:06:12,080 --> 00:06:13,960 Speaker 1: Like, second, what's going on? 132 00:06:14,000 --> 00:06:16,240 Speaker 3: And many brings in Elon Musk, and Elon Musk comes 133 00:06:16,279 --> 00:06:18,880 Speaker 3: in is slashing government subs that he's all over the place, 134 00:06:18,880 --> 00:06:20,440 Speaker 3: and a lot of those subs that he's go to farmers, 135 00:06:20,480 --> 00:06:21,360 Speaker 3: and the farmers. 136 00:06:21,000 --> 00:06:22,080 Speaker 2: Are like hew. 137 00:06:22,400 --> 00:06:24,440 Speaker 3: And then the year goes along and their farmers are 138 00:06:24,440 --> 00:06:27,159 Speaker 3: really stressed. And then Donald Trump does something you know 139 00:06:27,240 --> 00:06:29,160 Speaker 3: about a month or six weeks ago and comes out 140 00:06:29,160 --> 00:06:32,679 Speaker 3: with this twelve billion dollar farm bill, which is essentially 141 00:06:32,760 --> 00:06:34,240 Speaker 3: help and subsidies for farmers. 142 00:06:34,240 --> 00:06:36,479 Speaker 2: And so farmers just in the last month they're lack 143 00:06:36,520 --> 00:06:38,440 Speaker 2: in the fall. Yeah, go Donald Trump. 144 00:06:38,480 --> 00:06:40,400 Speaker 3: And so he comes to Iowa and they're all happy 145 00:06:40,400 --> 00:06:43,080 Speaker 3: because they got their big fats twelve billion dollar subsidy bill. 146 00:06:43,240 --> 00:06:44,919 Speaker 3: It's a perfect time for Donald Trump to go to 147 00:06:45,000 --> 00:06:48,599 Speaker 3: Iowa and turn it into a campaign event under the 148 00:06:48,640 --> 00:06:51,720 Speaker 3: guys of being interested in agriculture and farming. And that's 149 00:06:51,760 --> 00:06:54,359 Speaker 3: exactly what he did yesterday. And then after all of that, 150 00:06:54,400 --> 00:06:57,040 Speaker 3: after're changing the conversation and making this a political event. 151 00:06:57,160 --> 00:06:58,320 Speaker 2: I'm sure that there is some. 152 00:06:58,200 --> 00:07:01,560 Speaker 3: Small, tiny interest that Donald Trump has actual agriculture and farming. 153 00:07:01,760 --> 00:07:05,080 Speaker 1: Well, he knows. You can frame it in the speech 154 00:07:05,160 --> 00:07:08,960 Speaker 1: that it is part of national security, our food line 155 00:07:09,000 --> 00:07:09,760 Speaker 1: and distribution. 156 00:07:10,000 --> 00:07:11,800 Speaker 3: Right, because while all the farmers are like, yeah, we 157 00:07:11,840 --> 00:07:13,920 Speaker 3: got twelve billion dollars in subsidies, all the rest of 158 00:07:14,000 --> 00:07:15,680 Speaker 3: us that are aren't farmers are like, what the heck 159 00:07:15,680 --> 00:07:18,200 Speaker 3: are we giving twelve billion dollars in subsidies to farmers 160 00:07:18,200 --> 00:07:21,240 Speaker 3: for where's my twelve billion dollars in subsidies? 161 00:07:21,280 --> 00:07:22,040 Speaker 2: For my industry. 162 00:07:22,120 --> 00:07:24,400 Speaker 1: Yes, and so that if you're a farmer, you're very 163 00:07:24,400 --> 00:07:27,440 Speaker 1: happy about those subsidies. If you're not, you're thinking, wait 164 00:07:27,440 --> 00:07:30,120 Speaker 1: a second, this is the government once again picking winners 165 00:07:30,160 --> 00:07:30,680 Speaker 1: and losers. 166 00:07:30,760 --> 00:07:34,040 Speaker 3: Absolutely, and if Trump will frame this as as it 167 00:07:34,040 --> 00:07:36,440 Speaker 3: relates specifically to the subsidies. As you know, our food 168 00:07:36,480 --> 00:07:41,040 Speaker 3: supply is vital to national security and in our national interest, 169 00:07:41,080 --> 00:07:44,480 Speaker 3: and that's why they deserve subsidies. Okay, fair argument about that. 170 00:07:44,600 --> 00:07:46,720 Speaker 3: But once you go down that road, you can start 171 00:07:46,720 --> 00:07:48,880 Speaker 3: going down all sorts of other roads and claim that 172 00:07:48,880 --> 00:07:53,800 Speaker 3: that industry is also critical to national security. What about broadcasters, radio, 173 00:07:53,840 --> 00:07:57,920 Speaker 3: and television stations obviously serving the communities and critical during 174 00:07:57,960 --> 00:08:00,640 Speaker 3: times of crisis, they can come to the presidents say hey, look, 175 00:08:01,000 --> 00:08:03,840 Speaker 3: our industries are struggling. Where's our twelve billion dollars? You 176 00:08:03,840 --> 00:08:06,680 Speaker 3: could say that the logistical network, when it comes to 177 00:08:06,720 --> 00:08:09,640 Speaker 3: shipping and trains and how we move goods across the country, 178 00:08:09,920 --> 00:08:13,000 Speaker 3: that's vital to national security. That industry can come to 179 00:08:13,040 --> 00:08:15,080 Speaker 3: the government and ask for there at where's my twelve 180 00:08:15,080 --> 00:08:17,920 Speaker 3: billion dollars? So it is always a tricky road that 181 00:08:17,960 --> 00:08:20,600 Speaker 3: you go down. But in this specific issue, in this 182 00:08:20,640 --> 00:08:23,960 Speaker 3: specific location, Iowa. Trump is coming in as a hero 183 00:08:24,120 --> 00:08:25,760 Speaker 3: because the farmers got their twelve billion. 184 00:08:25,920 --> 00:08:29,600 Speaker 1: What is the economic impact of agriculture here in Indiana 185 00:08:30,000 --> 00:08:32,360 Speaker 1: thirty five point one million dollars. That's how much it 186 00:08:32,400 --> 00:08:35,720 Speaker 1: adds to our economy. Indiana is the ninth largest farming 187 00:08:35,760 --> 00:08:37,360 Speaker 1: state in the country.