WEBVTT - Mac & Bone Hour 3: Panthers Self Scouting 0:00:03.530 --> 0:00:07.070 Oh, oh, oh, it's Mac and Bo on your radio, baby. 0:00:07.110 --> 0:00:10.530 This is my friend Matt. Posh, come on, Posh. 0:00:10.590 --> 0:00:13.670 This is my friend T-Bone. 0:00:13.910 --> 0:00:14.790 Let's have some fun. 0:00:14.910 --> 0:00:18.250 I can't go to work without listening to Mac and Bone. 0:00:18.300 --> 0:00:18.880 Do it live. 0:00:27.160 --> 0:00:30.910 Sports Radio 92.7 WFNZ. We are chomping at the bit 0:00:30.930 --> 0:00:34.050 for the Panthers to get back to action this weekend. 0:00:34.090 --> 0:00:36.269 You know we're going to be talking about this Eagle 0:00:36.310 --> 0:00:39.270 game throughout the week, and you know that there's always 0:00:39.310 --> 0:00:42.630 going to be college football chatter on this radio show, 0:00:42.750 --> 0:00:47.560 including a conversation, Bone, later on about the ACC's chances 0:00:47.600 --> 0:00:50.890 of two playoff teams. Not sure people nationally think they're 0:00:50.930 --> 0:00:55.150 very good chances. But Wake has the second highest odds bone, 0:00:55.190 --> 0:00:57.970 according to FPI and the ACC, to make the playoff 0:00:57.990 --> 0:01:01.370 behind Miami. It's a beautiful world that Deke fans are 0:01:01.410 --> 0:01:03.650 living in right now. And we got to talk some 0:01:03.690 --> 0:01:07.080 Wake football. But let's not forget about Duke just because 0:01:07.140 --> 0:01:09.380 of the loss, Boney. They've got this game against Bill 0:01:09.400 --> 0:01:12.060 Belichick in the heels this week. Let's talk some Wake 0:01:12.120 --> 0:01:14.670 and Duke football with a man that covers both of 0:01:14.690 --> 0:01:18.009 those teams for on three sports. He is Connor O'Neill, 0:01:18.050 --> 0:01:19.950 who joins us here on the Mac and Bone show 0:01:19.990 --> 0:01:20.789 in the Queen City. 0:01:21.170 --> 0:01:22.850 Connor, how you been, man? What's going on? 0:01:24.390 --> 0:01:27.410 I'm good. I've got two good football teams to cover 0:01:27.490 --> 0:01:31.070 and basketball is knocking on the door. So It's a 0:01:31.069 --> 0:01:31.610 busy time. 0:01:31.770 --> 0:01:33.130 Heck yeah, it is, man. Heck yeah, it is. 0:01:33.170 --> 0:01:34.690 Let's, we got to start with the Deacs. This is 0:01:34.709 --> 0:01:38.569 just such a fun team. Do you, like, do you 0:01:38.690 --> 0:01:42.030 feel like there's a, is there a chance of them 0:01:42.090 --> 0:01:44.619 making the playoffs? Is there, is there only chance to 0:01:44.660 --> 0:01:47.740 literally go win the ACC, get a rematch with Miami 0:01:47.760 --> 0:01:49.780 and beat them? Like, what do you think about that 0:01:49.940 --> 0:01:51.680 aspect of this Deacs team? 0:01:52.980 --> 0:01:56.820 Yeah, my brain is split in two ways. And the 0:01:56.920 --> 0:01:59.490 dreamer part of me wants to say, if this is, 0:02:00.700 --> 0:02:04.850 An 11-1 team that goes and loses to Miami and Charlotte, 0:02:05.610 --> 0:02:08.609 plays Miami tight. They played them, gave them all they 0:02:08.630 --> 0:02:11.470 could handle. I think that's Miami's closest game so far 0:02:11.510 --> 0:02:15.960 this year. 11-2 with two losses to Miami, I think, 0:02:16.660 --> 0:02:21.540 would get in. But the realist in me says 11-2 0:02:21.560 --> 0:02:25.760 ACC or a 9-3 SEC team that has a bunch 0:02:25.780 --> 0:02:28.480 of these ranked wins that are boosted by their own 0:02:29.240 --> 0:02:33.800 metrics and the ESPN, the machinery that will boost them 0:02:34.160 --> 0:02:39.140 over the ACC teams that everybody thinks suck. So I 0:02:39.200 --> 0:02:40.020 don't know, guys. 0:02:41.970 --> 0:02:44.769 They're really going to need Louisville to be Louisville for 0:02:44.790 --> 0:02:47.609 the majority of the season so that win looks better 0:02:47.650 --> 0:02:50.130 and better. And SMU at the end for Wake, they're 0:02:50.150 --> 0:02:52.510 going to need them to be ranked and be like SMU, 0:02:52.570 --> 0:02:55.290 beat them to really boost that resume, in my opinion. 0:02:55.310 --> 0:03:00.149 Can they beat SMU? SMU beats Notre Dame? That would help. Although, 0:03:00.510 --> 0:03:02.050 now I think we're dreaming, though, Connor. 0:03:02.090 --> 0:03:03.590 You know what I mean? Like, now we're dreaming. 0:03:04.410 --> 0:03:04.810 Yeah. 0:03:06.389 --> 0:03:08.590 This is where I hit you with the stringer bell 0:03:08.630 --> 0:03:11.130 at some point. Like, we don't got to dream no more, man. 0:03:12.470 --> 0:03:17.180 Obviously, Gio Lopez finds himself in a much more comfortable 0:03:17.280 --> 0:03:20.680 offense that he's used to than he had last year 0:03:21.120 --> 0:03:24.859 with the heels. But what is it about this offense, 0:03:24.900 --> 0:03:29.060 this style, what makes Gio Lopez so good in this system? 0:03:30.900 --> 0:03:32.280 I think you hit the nail on the head. First 0:03:32.380 --> 0:03:36.380 and foremost, it's comfort. I mean, he just– he was– 0:03:36.780 --> 0:03:38.839 a shell of the quarterback that he was at South 0:03:38.900 --> 0:03:40.980 Alabama last year. He was a shell of the quarterback 0:03:41.000 --> 0:03:44.400 that he's been this year, last year. Anybody that judges 0:03:44.500 --> 0:03:48.790 Geo based on last year is kind of missing the 0:03:48.830 --> 0:03:51.490 tree for the– what's the phrasing I'm looking for? Missing 0:03:51.510 --> 0:03:52.490 the forest for the tree. 0:03:52.830 --> 0:03:54.950 Yeah, something with the forest and tree. I get all 0:03:54.970 --> 0:03:55.630 those wrong here. 0:03:56.290 --> 0:04:00.000 You got me. But, man, they've got other playmakers. Like 0:04:00.400 --> 0:04:03.360 Carlos Hernandez might be an NFL receiver. He's able to 0:04:03.400 --> 0:04:07.800 get open and avoid contact and his elusiveness. Jack Foley 0:04:07.910 --> 0:04:11.150 is only a sophomore, so I don't know if you 0:04:11.190 --> 0:04:13.030 can project him to the NFL yet, but he's a 0:04:13.150 --> 0:04:16.370 big physical guy who's had 200-yard games already this year, 0:04:16.510 --> 0:04:21.630 and one of them was against Miami. Their offensive line 0:04:21.650 --> 0:04:25.980 has a bunch of kind of FCS and misfit toys, 0:04:26.000 --> 0:04:28.180 and they've got a second-year guy that barely played last 0:04:28.220 --> 0:04:33.720 year starting at right tackle. They've got some pieces that 0:04:33.760 --> 0:04:37.990 just fit together really well, and then You know, we 0:04:38.010 --> 0:04:40.820 get so obsessed with talking about how many resources or 0:04:40.880 --> 0:04:44.420 how few resources schools have. And I get that that's 0:04:44.460 --> 0:04:47.000 become such a big part of college sports these days. 0:04:47.620 --> 0:04:50.660 But it's not the whole picture. It's not the whole pie. 0:04:50.880 --> 0:04:53.430 It's just a piece of the pie. You still have 0:04:53.450 --> 0:04:55.350 to coach guys and you still have to develop them. 0:04:55.630 --> 0:04:59.049 And Wake is doing a great job of those things, 0:04:59.370 --> 0:05:03.869 even coaching. wherever their resources rank them in the ACC. 0:05:04.060 --> 0:05:05.049 Yeah, there's no doubt. 0:05:05.250 --> 0:05:11.409 As state fans, if having more resources matters. It did 0:05:11.450 --> 0:05:14.690 not on Saturday. We're talking to Connor O'Neill on 3 Sports. 0:05:14.740 --> 0:05:16.700 He covers Wake. He covers Duke as well. We're going 0:05:16.720 --> 0:05:19.480 to get to the Blue Devils in a second. Last 0:05:19.540 --> 0:05:22.960 question I'm answering, and this is a total buzzkill question. 0:05:23.000 --> 0:05:25.140 I understand it. but I just feel like I got 0:05:25.160 --> 0:05:28.180 to ask you. Jake Dickert's amazing. I love this dude. 0:05:28.200 --> 0:05:30.810 I love his energy. I love what he's doing for 0:05:30.850 --> 0:05:34.370 this Deke program, but it's hard not to think, man, 0:05:34.430 --> 0:05:38.350 someone's going to want to gobble him up fast. How 0:05:38.390 --> 0:05:41.830 much do you fear from a Wake standpoint that this 0:05:41.850 --> 0:05:43.930 will be his last year in Winston-Salem? 0:05:45.390 --> 0:05:47.710 Yeah, I've got to record myself talking about this because 0:05:47.770 --> 0:05:49.400 of how many times I get asked it. 0:05:49.589 --> 0:05:49.830 Yeah. 0:05:51.670 --> 0:05:55.650 I just, I, again, my brain is split in two ways. I, 0:05:55.930 --> 0:05:59.510 I want wake fans to enjoy this season. I don't 0:05:59.550 --> 0:06:02.070 want them to sit there and think that a win 0:06:02.130 --> 0:06:05.070 is a good thing because it's one step closer to 0:06:05.110 --> 0:06:06.410 their coach being out the door. 0:06:06.510 --> 0:06:06.770 Yeah. 0:06:08.250 --> 0:06:10.990 I also, the, the realist in me is like, you know, 0:06:12.370 --> 0:06:15.529 Jake is a Midwest guy who coached in the Pacific Northwest. 0:06:15.830 --> 0:06:17.770 He had never lived in the South before he came 0:06:17.790 --> 0:06:23.790 to wake forest. It, If he has won nine games 0:06:23.870 --> 0:06:26.870 in his first season at Wake, he might win eight 0:06:26.930 --> 0:06:29.030 or nine, and that feels like a little bit on 0:06:29.070 --> 0:06:33.969 the conservative side for the rest of this season. It's 0:06:34.029 --> 0:06:37.799 not a matter of will he go somewhere that meets 0:06:37.839 --> 0:06:40.720 his eye. It's a matter of will he have the 0:06:40.800 --> 0:06:44.080 right job offer for him. He will have his pick 0:06:44.120 --> 0:06:48.160 of suitors if he is something like 20-8 at the 0:06:48.200 --> 0:06:49.900 end of two seasons at Wake Forest. 0:06:51.170 --> 0:06:53.870 Two of the most sought-after coaches might be the coaches 0:06:53.930 --> 0:06:56.710 that you cover in Jake Dickard of Wake and Manny 0:06:56.750 --> 0:07:01.280 Diaz from Duke. Now, not about Manny's future, but the 0:07:01.339 --> 0:07:04.359 other day, how disappointing was that loss for Duke to 0:07:04.400 --> 0:07:08.240 Georgia Tech? And, Connor, why, despite Duke's program being so 0:07:08.279 --> 0:07:10.180 much better than it used to be the last decade 0:07:10.220 --> 0:07:13.340 or so, why do they struggle so much with Georgia Tech? 0:07:13.380 --> 0:07:17.239 I believe that's six straight losses now to the Yellow Jackets. 0:07:18.280 --> 0:07:23.260 Yeah, it's confounding. especially when you think about the way 0:07:23.280 --> 0:07:26.400 they lose to Georgia Tech. Everything that Manny has built 0:07:26.440 --> 0:07:29.540 his program around is winning the fourth quarter, and they're 0:07:29.620 --> 0:07:31.560 able to win the fourth quarter in most games that 0:07:31.600 --> 0:07:35.040 they play. Illinois, they had a nice comeback win. They 0:07:35.480 --> 0:07:39.620 finished off games against Virginia in the ACC championship. Carolina 0:07:39.640 --> 0:07:46.030 last year, that was a tight game. Manny's 22-10 at Duke, 0:07:46.490 --> 0:07:48.690 and three of the ten losses are to Georgia Tech. 0:07:49.360 --> 0:07:51.340 and all three of them have been decided in the 0:07:51.380 --> 0:07:56.080 fourth quarter. There's some mental blockage. There's something about the 0:07:56.120 --> 0:07:59.610 way Brent Key builds his program is better in that 0:07:59.670 --> 0:08:03.030 situation and that type of matchup than Duke has been. 0:08:05.750 --> 0:08:09.510 It was kind of mystifying to watch Duke the first 0:08:09.890 --> 0:08:11.950 month of the season and see how well they played 0:08:11.970 --> 0:08:15.010 defensively and then look at them on Saturday and look 0:08:15.030 --> 0:08:17.070 at how many times the first guy to the ball 0:08:17.110 --> 0:08:20.560 did not get a tackle. And you're looking at plays 0:08:20.620 --> 0:08:22.640 that should have been like a two-yard game that turned 0:08:22.660 --> 0:08:25.020 into a six-yard game or an eight-yard game. And that's 0:08:25.080 --> 0:08:27.800 really hard to win a game when you do that. 0:08:27.800 --> 0:08:32.720 100%. What do you know about going into this Carolina game? 0:08:33.140 --> 0:08:35.199 What do you know about Nate Shepard and his health? 0:08:35.300 --> 0:08:38.980 I mean, clearly he was out at times. There's clearly, 0:08:39.000 --> 0:08:40.600 I don't know if it's ankle or foot or whatever 0:08:40.620 --> 0:08:42.760 it is. What do you know about his health going 0:08:42.780 --> 0:08:43.800 into this UNC game? 0:08:44.890 --> 0:08:48.270 Yeah, I asked him straight up after the game on Saturday. 0:08:48.350 --> 0:08:50.849 I said, you know, we saw you go in and 0:08:50.890 --> 0:08:53.330 out of the medical tent. It looked like, to me, 0:08:53.450 --> 0:08:58.110 the telltale was he was going out of bounds. And 0:08:58.340 --> 0:09:00.420 for a year and a half, watching Nate Shepard run 0:09:00.440 --> 0:09:02.680 the ball, if he's on the sideline, he's lowering his 0:09:02.720 --> 0:09:05.640 shoulder and delivering some punishment. He's not going out of bounds. 0:09:06.420 --> 0:09:10.200 So that was the first alarm bell in my mind, 0:09:10.580 --> 0:09:12.949 and he told us, He got rolled up on a 0:09:12.990 --> 0:09:15.550 screen in the second quarter. He was dealing with an 0:09:15.610 --> 0:09:19.689 ankle injury. It didn't limit him from having 190 yards, 0:09:21.950 --> 0:09:25.610 but we know how adrenaline works. So I would assume 0:09:25.770 --> 0:09:28.670 when the first availability report comes out tomorrow, he will 0:09:29.130 --> 0:09:33.170 probably be on it. He will either be questionable or probable. 0:09:33.200 --> 0:09:37.550 I think those are the two most likely outcomes. And 0:09:37.570 --> 0:09:39.810 then it's just a matter of has he iced it 0:09:39.850 --> 0:09:41.860 up enough? Does it feel good enough to be 100% 0:09:41.860 --> 0:09:46.179 against North Carolina? I don't think it's anything that would 0:09:46.200 --> 0:09:50.420 keep him out. I wouldn't– I'm not saying he's full 0:09:50.480 --> 0:09:54.449 go 100% for Saturday. It's just a matter of how 0:09:54.510 --> 0:10:00.420 close can they get him to 100%. Man, if he's 0:10:00.540 --> 0:10:07.100 limited in a large capacity, their offense changes. 0:10:08.360 --> 0:10:11.060 I will drive to Durham, saw off my ankle, and 0:10:11.080 --> 0:10:12.230 give it to him to play on Saturday. 0:10:13.170 --> 0:10:15.590 I don't know if my ankle will help him out 0:10:15.630 --> 0:10:18.610 at all, but for the brotherhood, man, I got to 0:10:18.630 --> 0:10:19.330 do what I got to do here. 0:10:20.429 --> 0:10:23.530 I was joking with somebody that were they going to 0:10:23.710 --> 0:10:25.689 saw off their legs so that they could have their 0:10:25.770 --> 0:10:28.190 kicker at Georgia Tech? Because that was a big thing that, like, 0:10:28.230 --> 0:10:32.570 popped up on the injury report. Their kicker was out. Oh, okay. 0:10:33.309 --> 0:10:36.070 They've lost to Georgia Tech in that way under David Cutcliffe, too, 0:10:36.090 --> 0:10:37.610 where they missed a field goal at the end. I 0:10:37.630 --> 0:10:39.829 feel like Georgia Tech– and the end of the Georgia 0:10:39.870 --> 0:10:42.510 Tech game happens to them down there, the same movie 0:10:42.530 --> 0:10:45.450 all the damn time. The kicker misses wide, and it's just. 0:10:45.650 --> 0:10:46.530 Oh, man. 0:10:47.270 --> 0:10:49.980 The best– The best news coming out of Saturday for 0:10:50.020 --> 0:10:52.800 Duke is that Georgia Tech is not on their schedule 0:10:52.880 --> 0:10:53.080 in 2027. 0:10:53.080 --> 0:10:54.040 Excellent news. There you go. 0:10:54.080 --> 0:10:57.520 That is certainly good news. No doubt about it. All right, Connor, 0:10:57.540 --> 0:11:00.000 you do a great job on three sports, covering the Deacs, 0:11:00.059 --> 0:11:03.079 covering the Devils as well. And join us here on 0:11:03.100 --> 0:11:04.740 the Mac and Bone Show if you're a Deac or 0:11:04.760 --> 0:11:07.800 Devil fan or just a college sports fan, ACC fan, 0:11:07.860 --> 0:11:11.610 follow him at Connor O'Neill underscore D1. 0:11:11.690 --> 0:11:14.030 Thank you, brother. Much appreciated, man. Be good. 0:11:14.990 --> 0:11:15.370 Thanks, Mack. 0:11:15.410 --> 0:11:16.349 I appreciate it. 0:11:16.360 --> 0:11:16.740 There you go. 0:11:16.760 --> 0:11:20.640 That's Connor O'Neill joining us. On the Mac and Bone show. Yeah, 0:11:20.800 --> 0:11:23.420 that's a good point. It's not just the Shepard injury 0:11:23.440 --> 0:11:27.800 you've got to watch. The kicker injury, too. Because the 0:11:27.840 --> 0:11:30.449 freshman kid, Strange, I think is his name, Bone? That's 0:11:30.470 --> 0:11:31.829 a weird thing to say about a guy you don't know. 0:11:32.710 --> 0:11:33.270 That's his name. 0:11:33.309 --> 0:11:36.030 I'm not calling him Strange. But he could end up 0:11:36.050 --> 0:11:38.870 being a real good kicker for y'all. But it makes 0:11:38.890 --> 0:11:41.330 you wonder if the more experienced one, not the freshman, 0:11:41.370 --> 0:11:43.570 was in there, if they would have forced overtime and 0:11:43.590 --> 0:11:44.110 won the game. 0:11:44.130 --> 0:11:45.740 So you've got to watch both those injuries this week. 0:11:45.750 --> 0:11:46.160 Especially in. 0:11:46.780 --> 0:11:49.500 In a series of games, it always seems to come 0:11:49.559 --> 0:11:53.120 down to the very end. They're often very close when 0:11:53.140 --> 0:11:55.680 the heels and devils play, and it may come down 0:11:55.720 --> 0:11:58.520 to late kicks, something of that nature. So you're going 0:11:58.540 --> 0:12:00.250 to want full go for your regular guys. 0:12:00.330 --> 0:12:03.230 Bone, we got a great segment idea this week to 0:12:03.309 --> 0:12:06.930 preview the Victory Bell game. It's going to be the 0:12:06.990 --> 0:12:13.360 Fan Roundtable with you, Fitty Aloysius Marlowe, and Complainer-in-Chief. And 0:12:13.390 --> 0:12:15.599 y'all just going to talk different shades of blue, baby. 0:12:15.620 --> 0:12:20.699 Can I choose another option? Can I give you another option? 0:12:21.179 --> 0:12:21.520 Okay. 0:12:21.580 --> 0:12:23.720 What would you prefer? What if I lit myself on 0:12:23.820 --> 0:12:26.160 fire on my radio? We could do that, actually. That'd 0:12:26.200 --> 0:12:28.260 be good for ratings. Maybe we'll do that instead. 0:12:28.360 --> 0:12:32.079 Just engulfed in flames. Dude, Complainer-in-Chief is setting the tone. 0:12:32.160 --> 0:12:36.330 He is just— he woke up at 6.15 trying to annoy you. 0:12:36.730 --> 0:12:38.990 I know he's trying to break you down during Duke 0:12:39.090 --> 0:12:39.589 UNC week. 0:12:39.610 --> 0:12:41.449 He doesn't want to bet the game, though, because he 0:12:41.490 --> 0:12:43.870 doesn't want to put our friendship on the line. And 0:12:43.910 --> 0:12:46.050 the worst excuse ever given. 0:12:46.070 --> 0:12:48.360 Because I didn't know we were friends. Yeah, that's what 0:12:48.380 --> 0:12:50.579 I thought you were going to tell him. What's this 0:12:50.620 --> 0:12:53.100 friendship you're speaking of? All of a sudden we're friends, 0:12:53.140 --> 0:12:54.200 so we're not betting on the game. 0:12:54.580 --> 0:12:55.160 Oh, man. 0:12:55.240 --> 0:12:59.620 Well, I said it's a retirement match. If Carolina loses, 0:12:59.640 --> 0:13:02.860 he's got to go away. Oh, shoot, that's big stakes. 0:13:02.900 --> 0:13:03.750 Big stakes. 0:13:03.760 --> 0:13:06.630 What about you, though? Well, I'll go somewhere. I might 0:13:06.650 --> 0:13:07.170 go away. 0:13:07.510 --> 0:13:11.090 You also have a good track record of retiring people 0:13:11.150 --> 0:13:13.890 in Durham, so... We can retire your ass after we 0:13:13.929 --> 0:13:14.709 retire Coach K. 0:13:14.770 --> 0:13:17.770 You didn't really say that with your full chest. What 0:13:17.870 --> 0:13:18.829 are you stuttering for over there? 0:13:18.990 --> 0:13:22.510 I have a speech problem. You know what it is, Mac? 0:13:22.630 --> 0:13:23.270 You know what it is? 0:13:23.610 --> 0:13:25.830 He's on his ninth peanut butter cookie this morning over 0:13:25.850 --> 0:13:27.410 there right now. Oh, he's hopped up, man. Look at 0:13:27.429 --> 0:13:27.890 these things. 0:13:27.910 --> 0:13:30.170 Shrumpy brought cookies, and this guy is going to town 0:13:30.200 --> 0:13:30.400 right now. 0:13:30.410 --> 0:13:32.360 This dude's got a sugar high over there. I am 0:13:32.380 --> 0:13:36.180 going to be very intrigued to hear how Carolina fans talk. 0:13:36.240 --> 0:13:40.340 Once we get to Thursday, Friday especially, and Fitty and 0:13:40.559 --> 0:13:43.800 Complainer and Cheat, are y'all wanting a piece of Duke? 0:13:43.830 --> 0:13:45.890 Are you wanting to call out Duke in this matchup? 0:13:46.110 --> 0:13:49.609 Can Carolina win two games? big ones in a row 0:13:49.730 --> 0:13:52.870 i'm still skeptical of that you know if they can 0:13:52.910 --> 0:13:55.150 win these two in a row when we. 0:13:55.030 --> 0:13:57.910 Come back we'll talk about that game state struggles with 0:13:57.950 --> 0:14:01.150 wake forest the wake forest surge all that and more 0:14:01.450 --> 0:14:05.310 the hot canes it's all on the table with adam 0:14:05.350 --> 0:14:08.930 gold from 99.9 the fan in raleigh he joins us 0:14:09.010 --> 0:14:11.350 next for his weekly spot on the mac and bone 0:14:11.390 --> 0:14:13.250 show sports radio 92.7 wfnz. 0:14:22.230 --> 0:14:25.070 Sports Radio 92.7 WFNZ. 0:14:25.210 --> 0:14:28.350 Mack and Bone hanging out with you. 0:14:41.690 --> 0:14:44.490 There's some Panther paranoia in the air, but we've got 0:14:44.510 --> 0:14:46.410 to deal with this over the next couple of days. 0:14:46.430 --> 0:14:50.810 A lot of people texting in with bad feelings about 0:14:50.890 --> 0:14:55.200 Panthers going to Philadelphia. About the folks that they're going 0:14:55.220 --> 0:14:56.180 to see there or the team? 0:14:56.880 --> 0:15:02.000 That's twofold. That's twofold. Heads on a swivel, folks. Be careful, please. 0:15:02.040 --> 0:15:03.640 No doubt about it, y'all. No doubt about it. Get 0:15:03.660 --> 0:15:05.370 a cheesesteak to your head. Unbelievable. 0:15:05.970 --> 0:15:07.950 But I will say this, though, Bone, and our next 0:15:07.990 --> 0:15:11.730 guest can attest. Sometimes a team is told going into 0:15:11.770 --> 0:15:14.240 a game in enemy territory that it's going to be 0:15:14.340 --> 0:15:17.140 so hostile they will not be able to perform, that 0:15:17.160 --> 0:15:20.380 they will fold under the pressure. And Adam gold might 0:15:20.400 --> 0:15:23.000 be able to talk about that bone after what Manchester 0:15:23.020 --> 0:15:27.900 city did is Liverpool football club over the weekend. Adam gold, 99, nine, 0:15:27.940 --> 0:15:32.230 the fan in Raleigh. What's up Goldie. I'm sorry that 0:15:32.270 --> 0:15:35.830 man city had to upset the entire soccer world on Sunday. 0:15:37.430 --> 0:15:39.410 It's all good. It's good to know that you're one 0:15:39.430 --> 0:15:42.510 of those fans that don't care about rules. That's fine. 0:15:42.790 --> 0:15:49.730 I actually love Liverpool's game. until the bogus sending off 0:15:49.830 --> 0:15:52.350 of Ryan Gravenberg, who was the best player on the field, 0:15:52.790 --> 0:15:53.510 until that point. 0:15:53.790 --> 0:15:57.190 But that's okay. Enjoy the points while they count. 0:15:59.970 --> 0:16:03.000 I think we will. I think we will. We may 0:16:03.060 --> 0:16:06.020 lose them, but I think we'll try to enjoy it now. Anyway, 0:16:06.040 --> 0:16:09.740 all right, let's talk about a little more closer-to-home sports 0:16:09.820 --> 0:16:10.280 right now. 0:16:10.660 --> 0:16:12.220 I want to start with the Canes. Thank you, because 0:16:12.240 --> 0:16:13.420 that felt personal. The Canes. 0:16:14.810 --> 0:16:19.290 I knew Goldie had that snark right back. I mean, 0:16:19.450 --> 0:16:22.570 he's got plenty of material to use. All right, Goldie, 0:16:22.730 --> 0:16:25.430 the Canes are on fire right now. Five straight wins. 0:16:25.830 --> 0:16:27.890 They're beating the heck out of Philly and then trolling 0:16:27.910 --> 0:16:30.670 the entire city on social media, on their social account. 0:16:30.710 --> 0:16:31.180 I love it. 0:16:33.050 --> 0:16:36.770 I mean, what do you think about the way they're 0:16:36.790 --> 0:16:40.340 playing right now? Because it seems like they've hit a groove. 0:16:43.970 --> 0:16:48.790 The last five games have been very, very Canes-like. I mean, 0:16:48.810 --> 0:16:52.270 they've dominated play in every phase. I actually think the 0:16:52.290 --> 0:16:56.190 game on Sunday was the worst of the five, and 0:16:56.230 --> 0:16:58.310 they won 4-1. I didn't think they were very good, 0:16:58.330 --> 0:17:02.130 but when they were good, they scored. So it created 0:17:02.250 --> 0:17:09.150 the separation. But combined, those five wins were over teams 0:17:09.369 --> 0:17:14.500 with five total wins. Philly hasn't won yet. Montreal's got two. 0:17:14.640 --> 0:17:18.320 Vancouver's got two. I'm trying to think the other team 0:17:18.340 --> 0:17:24.480 they beat. It doesn't really matter. Chicago has one. So 0:17:24.660 --> 0:17:28.379 it's not like they beat the murderer's row. Tonight will 0:17:28.400 --> 0:17:31.600 be a different test against the Washington Capitals. But I 0:17:31.640 --> 0:17:33.400 love the way the team's playing, and I think they're 0:17:33.420 --> 0:17:36.590 great anyway. And they're probably not that far away from 0:17:36.619 --> 0:17:37.660 getting Seth Jarvis back. 0:17:38.910 --> 0:17:41.310 Adam, there's a lot to talk about from the result 0:17:41.450 --> 0:17:44.270 of Wake Forest and NC State this past Saturday. It's 0:17:44.330 --> 0:17:46.850 the good for Wake Forest, but we'll start with the 0:17:46.930 --> 0:17:51.780 negative for NC State and the blowout loss. How hot 0:17:51.940 --> 0:17:54.820 is the seat for Dave Doran right now, and is 0:17:54.840 --> 0:17:56.580 this the beginning of the end for him, do we think? 0:17:58.740 --> 0:18:01.420 I think Dave Doran calls his own shot. I've always 0:18:01.440 --> 0:18:05.730 thought that. I think Dave will be the coach until 0:18:05.750 --> 0:18:07.669 Dave doesn't want to be the coach. I really do. 0:18:08.310 --> 0:18:11.850 I mean, but I said that before David Cutcliffe as well. 0:18:12.830 --> 0:18:17.480 And at some point, the administration basically has to take 0:18:17.520 --> 0:18:19.440 the keys away. I'm not saying that that's going to 0:18:19.480 --> 0:18:23.220 happen with State because the season isn't over yet. I mean, 0:18:23.240 --> 0:18:26.480 I think it wouldn't be the craziest thing in the 0:18:26.540 --> 0:18:30.000 world if NC State ended the season with eight wins. 0:18:30.900 --> 0:18:36.260 And an 8-4 team with the way they are Supported financially? 0:18:36.619 --> 0:18:39.700 I mean, that's not the craziest thing that I've ever heard. 0:18:39.720 --> 0:18:45.660 You know, Dave has two problems. Dave's problem is messaging 0:18:45.900 --> 0:18:48.730 to his fans, which he's not great at. 0:18:48.810 --> 0:18:49.290 No doubt. 0:18:49.790 --> 0:18:53.390 Except when they're winning. Now, when they're winning, man, they 0:18:53.450 --> 0:18:54.690 love salty Dave. 0:18:54.810 --> 0:18:55.930 Oh, yeah. 0:18:56.130 --> 0:19:02.880 But they're not winning enough. And, frankly, Wake Forest just 0:19:03.040 --> 0:19:08.420 kicked their fannies. in the second half. They could not 0:19:08.580 --> 0:19:11.760 stop them at all. Look at the five drives in 0:19:11.800 --> 0:19:13.990 a row from the last drive of the first half 0:19:14.330 --> 0:19:18.570 through the first four drives of the second half. I mean, 0:19:18.630 --> 0:19:23.160 Wake Forest went them... through a goose, man. It was ridiculous. 0:19:24.440 --> 0:19:25.580 Yeah, it was. 0:19:25.640 --> 0:19:28.620 Goldie, I wanted to bring up about Dave's message into 0:19:28.640 --> 0:19:29.020 the fans. 0:19:29.060 --> 0:19:29.620 And you're right. 0:19:30.100 --> 0:19:32.820 When they're beating Carolina or they're winning big games and 0:19:32.840 --> 0:19:35.900 you get solo cup and cigar, Dave, oh my God, 0:19:36.010 --> 0:19:40.350 NC State fans love it. But that answer the other 0:19:40.390 --> 0:19:44.209 day to a truly legitimate question about why the heck 0:19:44.570 --> 0:19:48.369 against opponents not named Richmond, they are getting obliterated in 0:19:48.410 --> 0:19:51.840 the second half of games. and him acting like, oh, 0:19:51.880 --> 0:19:55.480 it's execution, which to me is blaming players. Can't be 0:19:55.540 --> 0:19:58.280 lack of adjustments or other teams adjust. Like that can't 0:19:58.300 --> 0:19:59.919 be what fans want to hear, man. 0:20:01.560 --> 0:20:05.100 No, it's not what anybody wants to hear. Sometimes, and 0:20:05.520 --> 0:20:08.159 I've used this with Roy Williams all the time. Roy Williams, 0:20:08.680 --> 0:20:12.790 who is... I don't know, one of the top six, seven, 0:20:12.830 --> 0:20:16.530 eight coaches in the history of college basketball. When his 0:20:16.570 --> 0:20:19.490 team played poorly, it was never about them. It was 0:20:19.550 --> 0:20:23.139 always about him. Now, he might not have been telling 0:20:23.180 --> 0:20:27.060 the truth, but your fans want to know that you 0:20:27.160 --> 0:20:31.880 are not, you are being accountable. And Dave, whether he's 0:20:31.980 --> 0:20:35.960 right or not, and my assumption is he's probably more 0:20:36.060 --> 0:20:39.300 right than not. is that you still can't do it. 0:20:39.660 --> 0:20:44.220 And you can't couch accountability by saying, well, we have 0:20:44.260 --> 0:20:49.080 to do a better job of helping them execute. Because 0:20:49.119 --> 0:20:53.909 you're essentially saying, yeah, it's them, not me. And fans 0:20:53.950 --> 0:20:57.650 don't want to hear that. And so, again, he might 0:20:57.710 --> 0:21:00.090 be right, but you can't say it. The other thing 0:21:00.109 --> 0:21:03.409 that bothered me was when they asked him, what do 0:21:03.450 --> 0:21:06.570 you make of Wake doing this with their resources instead 0:21:07.160 --> 0:21:12.260 And Dave pretended to not know that Wake is barely 0:21:12.380 --> 0:21:13.720 funding their football program. 0:21:13.760 --> 0:21:16.170 How do you not know that? Oh, yeah, that was shameless. 0:21:16.210 --> 0:21:18.390 Well, he knows it, but he doesn't want to admit 0:21:18.410 --> 0:21:18.990 it to everybody. 0:21:19.050 --> 0:21:20.149 He can't acknowledge it. 0:21:20.230 --> 0:21:24.170 Yeah, because if you acknowledge that you got, I mean, 0:21:24.330 --> 0:21:28.500