WEBVTT - Episode 544 | Training Camp Week 2 Thoughts + Kenny Moore II Joins! 0:00:00.120 --> 0:00:03.240 Game week, preseason game week. I guess we should probably 0:00:03.240 --> 0:00:05.200 preface by that it's we're back. It is Colt's Corner 0:00:05.240 --> 0:00:09.280 with myself, Kevin bow and Eddie Garrison is with me. 0:00:09.760 --> 0:00:13.480 Off to Baltimore. Actually today we're recording this Monday morning, 0:00:13.520 --> 0:00:16.279 so we've got definitely a few training camp practices to 0:00:16.360 --> 0:00:20.639 recap since our last POD and joint practice coming up 0:00:20.680 --> 0:00:24.320 Tuesday afternoon, preseason opener Thursday nights. 0:00:24.560 --> 0:00:26.000 Eddie, how are you, sir? 0:00:26.120 --> 0:00:29.000 I'm great. Happy Back to school week so some freedom 0:00:29.040 --> 0:00:30.800 for you and missus Bowen during the day. 0:00:31.200 --> 0:00:35.120 Well yeah, yeah, no, that is that is fair. Yeah, 0:00:35.120 --> 0:00:36.720 it's been a little bit of a tag team effort 0:00:36.760 --> 0:00:39.000 here last couple of weeks. So yes, looking forward to 0:00:39.760 --> 0:00:42.640 both Max and Rosie back to school. And I believe 0:00:42.920 --> 0:00:46.120 IPS starts this week, so Innneapolis Public schools back and 0:00:47.360 --> 0:00:49.960 we are starting to inch. The crowds are getting a 0:00:49.960 --> 0:00:52.519 little bit smaller at Grand Park. Our weekday practices are 0:00:52.600 --> 0:00:57.680 virtually done. Honestly, we only have four more practices Saturday, Sunday, 0:00:57.720 --> 0:01:00.400 Monday four o'clock I believe start time each of those days, 0:01:01.080 --> 0:01:04.200 and then next Thursday is the joint practice with Green 0:01:04.280 --> 0:01:07.240 Bay and that's it four o'clock. So, yeah, it really 0:01:07.360 --> 0:01:08.920 was a very front loaded. 0:01:08.760 --> 0:01:11.160 That's actually three o'clock. I take that back camp is 0:01:11.200 --> 0:01:12.559 it three o'clock? Yeah, three to five. 0:01:13.280 --> 0:01:14.839 Yeah, it's a very frontloaded camp. 0:01:14.959 --> 0:01:17.679 And I don't recall the Colts ever having a joint 0:01:17.720 --> 0:01:21.160 practice on the road this early in camp. You know, 0:01:21.200 --> 0:01:24.679 part of that is your preseason schedule. So again in Baltimore, 0:01:24.720 --> 0:01:27.759 I think, you know, they're a great valoulation. They're honestly 0:01:27.760 --> 0:01:30.600 the betting favor right now really win the Super Bowl. 0:01:30.600 --> 0:01:33.759 I think it's slight over the likes of Kansas City 0:01:33.760 --> 0:01:36.360 and Philly and Buffalo, but yeah, they are that so 0:01:36.840 --> 0:01:40.480 well Chuck Bogano action right. The as system with them 0:01:40.600 --> 0:01:43.960 so should be really a good volation point because I 0:01:44.000 --> 0:01:47.680 you know, I will say this, Eddie, August sample sizes 0:01:47.840 --> 0:01:52.320 are small. Yeah, August sample sizes can be dangerous, yes 0:01:52.360 --> 0:01:56.520 they can. August sample sizes in recent years with the 0:01:56.560 --> 0:01:59.440 Colts have largely been pretty accurate. 0:01:59.760 --> 0:02:00.200 Yeah. 0:02:00.280 --> 0:02:04.240 Last year Anthony Richardson got laughed at by the Cincinnati defense, 0:02:04.800 --> 0:02:07.320 remember that and the Joan practice. Oh really laughing at 0:02:07.840 --> 0:02:09.720 we're running too much or not being able to throw? 0:02:09.880 --> 0:02:13.480 Well, what happened exactly. You know, I think back to 0:02:13.520 --> 0:02:14.160 a couple of years ago. 0:02:14.200 --> 0:02:16.280 I remember the Colts played their starters a little bit 0:02:16.320 --> 0:02:19.320 against Buffalo's backups. I remember that in the preseason game, 0:02:19.360 --> 0:02:23.240 and the Buffalo backups whipped them. Now again, you know, 0:02:23.280 --> 0:02:25.200 we sat here and thought, well, it's just kind of 0:02:25.200 --> 0:02:31.480 one quarter. You know, who cares. And I get that 0:02:31.600 --> 0:02:33.760 the Lions went undefeated of the year, they went oh 0:02:33.840 --> 0:02:36.880 and sixteen in the preseason, and the Colts oftentimes lost 0:02:36.880 --> 0:02:39.560 a ton in the Manning years in the preseason. But 0:02:39.760 --> 0:02:44.120 weirdly with this franchise lately, the August you know, glimpses 0:02:44.120 --> 0:02:47.720 and flashes of it have led to some concrete info. 0:02:47.840 --> 0:02:52.440 So again I think with Baltimore Green Bay, two good 0:02:52.440 --> 0:02:56.600 measuring sticks, and we'll see how this weekend next week unfolds. 0:02:56.720 --> 0:02:59.440 Yeah, that kind of echoes what Jim, Bob Cooter and 0:02:59.639 --> 0:03:02.840 Lou and Arimo said on Saturday, Like they there was 0:03:02.880 --> 0:03:05.040 a ton of questions about, like, hey, how do you 0:03:05.040 --> 0:03:07.360 think you know so and so it's performed in campas 0:03:07.400 --> 0:03:09.360 far what do you like, whatever, you liked this, that 0:03:09.400 --> 0:03:11.880 and the other, and both of them essentially flat out 0:03:11.919 --> 0:03:14.480 said like it's hard to evaluate these when we're going 0:03:14.520 --> 0:03:16.560 up against each other. But and you've really kind of 0:03:16.600 --> 0:03:18.680 figure out what you got and who you got and 0:03:18.720 --> 0:03:20.720 what kind of season some players are going to have 0:03:21.280 --> 0:03:23.560 when these joint practices start rolling around. And they were 0:03:23.600 --> 0:03:26.600 both looking forward to Baltimore tomorrow. 0:03:26.840 --> 0:03:29.440 Let's come back to Thursday night, Eddie. So we'll talk 0:03:29.480 --> 0:03:32.440 about Thursday's practice, Saturday, and Sunday here on this pod. 0:03:33.360 --> 0:03:35.040 Good amount of twital questions and I would say kind 0:03:35.040 --> 0:03:37.960 of a variety, So looking forward to that as always. 0:03:38.000 --> 0:03:41.000 But I'll start here with the night practice Thursday. Tremendous 0:03:41.040 --> 0:03:45.120 idea about Shane Steiken. I mean, if you have that's 0:03:45.160 --> 0:03:47.760 your only experience in an NFL practice, you were like, wait, 0:03:47.840 --> 0:03:50.680 I need to come to more of these. It was entertaining. 0:03:51.560 --> 0:03:54.120 The lights feel, of course, brings just a little bit 0:03:54.120 --> 0:03:57.960 more of I think this is a cool atmosphere. But 0:03:58.040 --> 0:04:00.440 they did a ton of eleven on eleven work. Daniel 0:04:00.480 --> 0:04:02.760 Jones through it twenty seven times in practice. I think 0:04:02.880 --> 0:04:08.720 Richardson threw at nineteen. Those are big, big numbers from 0:04:09.440 --> 0:04:13.520 both of those quarterbacks there, and I would say the 0:04:13.600 --> 0:04:16.120 qbs were really good and Richardson had, you know, some 0:04:16.160 --> 0:04:19.960 big time fireworks. Now, just like yesterday's practice, the Colts 0:04:19.960 --> 0:04:24.360 wore down three of their top five corners in that practice. 0:04:24.400 --> 0:04:27.479 And you know, Eddie, my general thought on Richardson is this, 0:04:27.800 --> 0:04:32.239 and I thought the Shane Styken quote after that Thursday 0:04:32.279 --> 0:04:33.479 practice kind of agreed. 0:04:33.160 --> 0:04:33.839 With my sentiment. 0:04:35.320 --> 0:04:40.560 I largely think if you were to do a one 0:04:40.600 --> 0:04:44.440 week highlight reel of Anthony Richardson's first training camp week 0:04:44.680 --> 0:04:48.400 ever in the NFL, the twenty twenty four first week 0:04:48.440 --> 0:04:51.479 of camp and then this year, you would watch the 0:04:51.520 --> 0:04:53.800 three and if I made you go to the eye 0:04:53.800 --> 0:04:56.760 doctor and say, hey, which one's the clearest, you would 0:04:56.760 --> 0:04:57.640 say twenty twenty five. 0:04:58.880 --> 0:05:02.760 So I just think of it's generally been cleaner, clearer, 0:05:03.160 --> 0:05:06.920 less turnover worthy balls, less ground balls, less air mail 0:05:07.000 --> 0:05:09.720 hitting the rooster, you know, those sorts of egregious throws. 0:05:10.200 --> 0:05:12.560 There's been fewer of those. 0:05:13.560 --> 0:05:15.560 And then again, I thought last Thursday he sprinkled in 0:05:15.600 --> 0:05:18.479 some big time deep balls. Adie Mitchell and Ashton Doolan 0:05:18.560 --> 0:05:21.800 had really good camps. You know, there was a moment 0:05:21.839 --> 0:05:25.159 in that Thursday night practice where Jones went first with 0:05:25.240 --> 0:05:28.520 the starters and he his drive kind of stalled out. 0:05:29.520 --> 0:05:32.400 I think Richardson was maybe incomplete drying a deep ball 0:05:32.560 --> 0:05:35.960 or a deep ish ball on his first play with 0:05:36.000 --> 0:05:37.920 than the second unit, and then he on court one 0:05:38.000 --> 0:05:39.920 to Doolin, and it was just one of those reminders 0:05:39.920 --> 0:05:43.479 of like, are you gonna live with the dink and dunk? 0:05:44.520 --> 0:05:47.000 Are you gonna live with one that is more willing 0:05:47.040 --> 0:05:49.320 to throw it down the field and oftentimes more accurate. 0:05:49.360 --> 0:05:49.760 Mm hmm. 0:05:50.080 --> 0:05:53.400 Now again there's risk, but that's the dilemma that Shane 0:05:53.400 --> 0:05:55.600 Second has to have. Are you going to live with 0:05:55.640 --> 0:06:00.839 the quarterback that's more predictable Daniel Jones or the one 0:06:00.920 --> 0:06:03.760 that again can maybe give you a little bit more 0:06:04.440 --> 0:06:09.000 feast or famine. You know that Thursday night practice because 0:06:09.040 --> 0:06:11.680 Saturday was awful for the two qbs, but that had 0:06:11.760 --> 0:06:13.920 probably been a run of like three or four practices 0:06:13.960 --> 0:06:15.920 where both of them not only I don't think of 0:06:16.040 --> 0:06:17.960 throwing a pick in eleven on eleven, I don't recall 0:06:18.040 --> 0:06:22.440 many interceptible balls even you know, like drops from from 0:06:22.440 --> 0:06:23.040 the defense. 0:06:23.080 --> 0:06:25.600 So that was probably the highlight of the night. 0:06:25.640 --> 0:06:27.960 I did think to Lot too, just like yesterday, I 0:06:27.960 --> 0:06:30.680 thought he led a pretty good pass rush effort there, 0:06:30.839 --> 0:06:32.720 and that was without Buckner. So if you go back 0:06:32.760 --> 0:06:35.400 that Thursday night practice, Adie, they didn't have they probably 0:06:35.440 --> 0:06:38.240 didn't have their best player at every level. Mm hmm Buckner, 0:06:39.240 --> 0:06:42.279 Zire Franklin. And then I guess you can debate on 0:06:42.320 --> 0:06:44.760 the back end who your best player is, but to 0:06:44.880 --> 0:06:48.520 various wards. So again I thought Ady Mitchell was really good. 0:06:48.560 --> 0:06:50.920 I thought Duelan was good. I thought, well, Mallory continues 0:06:50.960 --> 0:06:53.960 to kind of stack some days together. Obviously, the highlight 0:06:54.000 --> 0:06:56.240 of that Thursday night was that Tyler Warren catch. And 0:06:56.320 --> 0:06:58.080 you know, I think, and you watch it full speed, 0:06:58.120 --> 0:07:01.200 it really stands out, really stood out to me at least. 0:07:01.600 --> 0:07:03.920 You just don't see tight ends make catches like that. No, 0:07:04.160 --> 0:07:06.599 you don't see tight ends have that type of body 0:07:06.640 --> 0:07:09.600 control in the air falling to the ground. Stab it 0:07:09.680 --> 0:07:13.480 with the left Jalen Carlis had beautiful coverage, beautiful coverage, 0:07:14.120 --> 0:07:16.280 and it's funny you go back and you watch it. 0:07:16.320 --> 0:07:19.000 I thought Camra Groan's reaction in the background was great, 0:07:19.720 --> 0:07:22.520 just the immediate hands of the helmet, like I can't 0:07:22.520 --> 0:07:26.440 believe that just happened. Again, Carlis the right when Daniel 0:07:26.520 --> 0:07:30.400 Jones threw it, I go, that's an that's an overthrow. 0:07:30.600 --> 0:07:37.080 That might even be you know, picked, So that is 0:07:37.120 --> 0:07:40.800 something that stood out. But yeah, you know, the corner 0:07:40.840 --> 0:07:44.440 injuries obviously starting to pile up a little bit. They've 0:07:44.440 --> 0:07:48.880 been down three of their five starters. With that, ooh, 0:07:49.040 --> 0:07:51.880 we got an ore from the depth chart. Daniel Jones 0:07:52.040 --> 0:07:52.920 or Anthony. 0:07:55.320 --> 0:07:56.280 Is not the only or. 0:07:57.040 --> 0:07:59.800 I'm trying to score right now. Tanner Bordolini is your starter. 0:08:00.000 --> 0:08:01.960 I would say that's probably been more we've seen so far. 0:08:02.040 --> 0:08:04.240 No Dandy Pinter missed practice on Saturday. Was he back 0:08:04.280 --> 0:08:07.080 out there on Sunday back yesterday? Okay, I think that 0:08:07.240 --> 0:08:08.960 is your only or as I go through the whole 0:08:09.000 --> 0:08:09.440 depth chart. 0:08:11.800 --> 0:08:17.480 So that was something that I thought kind of stood out, 0:08:17.960 --> 0:08:19.720 and that you know, they we saw them sign the 0:08:19.720 --> 0:08:24.080 two corners as well, you know we hadn't. Yeah, that's 0:08:24.160 --> 0:08:26.120 usually a tell of Jalen Jones is going to miss time, 0:08:26.200 --> 0:08:28.480 Juju Brent's gonna miss time. I think it was a 0:08:28.520 --> 0:08:30.600 little bit more severe on the Jalen Jones front than 0:08:30.640 --> 0:08:34.360 it was on the Juju Brents front. But yeah, I 0:08:34.360 --> 0:08:36.040 thought it was a good night for the pressure guys. 0:08:36.120 --> 0:08:38.880 You know, guys that you would list as having a 0:08:38.880 --> 0:08:41.840 lot of pressure on the roster. I e a lot 0:08:41.920 --> 0:08:43.800 to I E. You know Quiddy pay had a big 0:08:43.840 --> 0:08:46.000 play to end practice. You know Mitchell, you know those 0:08:46.040 --> 0:08:48.439 sorts of guys that you look at, So. 0:08:49.600 --> 0:08:50.400 Starting there, Eddie. 0:08:50.440 --> 0:08:54.400 I thought, Thursday night great night for entertainment practice and 0:08:54.440 --> 0:08:57.200 also probably the most fireworks we've seen so far camp. 0:08:57.360 --> 0:09:00.480 Just a reminder all of these notebook recapture of one 0:09:00.480 --> 0:09:02.160 O seven five to fan dot com and of course 0:09:02.600 --> 0:09:04.440 if you go to one seven five the fan on Twitter, 0:09:04.480 --> 0:09:06.200 you can see Kevin's beautiful face because he just got 0:09:06.200 --> 0:09:07.600 a haircut in a fresh clean shave. 0:09:08.280 --> 0:09:11.320 I did much needed both of those things. Yes, much 0:09:11.400 --> 0:09:11.960 much needed. 0:09:12.320 --> 0:09:14.760 Let's transition to Saturday. I thought, probably the rockiest day 0:09:14.760 --> 0:09:17.200 of camp so far. It does seem like when they 0:09:17.240 --> 0:09:18.640 get into the red zone stuff. 0:09:18.760 --> 0:09:20.680 I will take blame for that. I was there Saturday. 0:09:20.760 --> 0:09:22.920 Yes, you were there, so you you definitely saw it. 0:09:25.600 --> 0:09:31.160 You see guys struggle with throwing, the anticipation, throwing, vacuracy, 0:09:31.200 --> 0:09:34.040 the windows get tighter. Richardson was about three of ten, 0:09:34.240 --> 0:09:36.720 was picked I think twice, or maybe should have been 0:09:36.720 --> 0:09:39.160 picked twice. I think Walmack might have dropped one. Kennymore 0:09:39.200 --> 0:09:41.920 definitely got him on one. Daniel Jones was picked twice 0:09:41.920 --> 0:09:44.520 and seven on seven. I thought Jones was less worse, 0:09:44.640 --> 0:09:46.760 if that is the right way to put it. Yeah, 0:09:46.800 --> 0:09:49.280 he had a two minute drive to end practice. I 0:09:49.320 --> 0:09:51.880 thought there's a good note to end it. Whereas Richardson 0:09:51.960 --> 0:09:53.280 I think stalled out. 0:09:54.600 --> 0:09:56.360 They got a first down on the first play, then 0:09:56.400 --> 0:09:57.600 they went three and out. 0:09:57.800 --> 0:09:58.720 Yes, exactly. 0:09:58.800 --> 0:10:00.800 So you know, this is where you get into a 0:10:00.840 --> 0:10:05.280 little bit of like, all right, you know how much 0:10:05.360 --> 0:10:07.360 or a are you gonna throw it? Red zone goal 0:10:07.400 --> 0:10:09.440 to go? I mean to me, I've said this before. 0:10:09.440 --> 0:10:11.120 I think one of their greatest strengths is the football 0:10:11.120 --> 0:10:13.400 team this year will be running the ball in those 0:10:13.400 --> 0:10:16.800 short yard each moments. So I don't think they're just 0:10:16.840 --> 0:10:18.559 gonna drop back and throw it as much as they 0:10:18.600 --> 0:10:21.120 did and that. Now that might sound like I'm, you know, 0:10:21.160 --> 0:10:23.080 trying to make excuses for the quarterbacks, but I do 0:10:23.160 --> 0:10:26.520 think there is some you know, kind of context around it. 0:10:27.320 --> 0:10:29.240 I think play action becames just a huge part of 0:10:29.280 --> 0:10:30.960 their offense in the red zone two you. 0:10:31.559 --> 0:10:33.960 And I mean again, they're gonna move worn all over 0:10:34.000 --> 0:10:36.760 and they're gonna do funky stuff with you know, tight 0:10:36.960 --> 0:10:41.679 ends and unbalanced lines and you know, quarterback run obviously 0:10:41.760 --> 0:10:43.199 is gonna be a huge, huge part of it. 0:10:43.280 --> 0:10:47.040 So I think that is all necessary context when you 0:10:47.080 --> 0:10:50.199 talk about that. But nonetheless, it was a really poor 0:10:50.280 --> 0:10:54.080 day for those guys. Ward was back. You know, if 0:10:54.440 --> 0:10:56.559 these last three practices, it's like the day Ward has 0:10:56.559 --> 0:10:59.040 been there, the DB's been really good and he had 0:10:59.040 --> 0:11:01.960 a big pass deflection in that practice, whereas when he 0:11:01.960 --> 0:11:04.880 has been out there, they've kind of feasted on them. 0:11:04.960 --> 0:11:07.480 I guess we should say Spencer Schrader is probably the 0:11:07.520 --> 0:11:10.480 overwhelming leader right now in the kicker battle. Brian Jason 0:11:10.520 --> 0:11:13.160 did share those numbers after practice, like eighty seven percent 0:11:13.200 --> 0:11:15.199 to seventy four him and Maddocks. 0:11:16.360 --> 0:11:16.600 True. 0:11:16.800 --> 0:11:19.679 Ho, so is that the right pronunciation? Did we get 0:11:19.679 --> 0:11:22.840 that correct? I don't know, we mean, he asked Matt Taylor. 0:11:22.960 --> 0:11:25.080 Yeah, I know, I know that's yeah. I was like, oh, 0:11:25.240 --> 0:11:28.000 is it Joe Bachi? Is it Joe Batchie Bochi? 0:11:29.000 --> 0:11:29.480 Like the ball? 0:11:29.880 --> 0:11:33.160 Yes, exactly, like the ball. I thought the quarterbacks bounced 0:11:33.160 --> 0:11:36.760 back yesterday. Now again you're down three or four quarterbacks. 0:11:36.800 --> 0:11:38.960 I had them both Town of fourteen. I thought it 0:11:38.960 --> 0:11:41.200 was Riley Leonard's best day of work. That's probably not 0:11:41.280 --> 0:11:44.079 saying a whole lot. He's been largely inaccurate through this camp, 0:11:44.320 --> 0:11:46.319 but he was slinging that like it was, you know, 0:11:46.440 --> 0:11:49.800 second half of the Ohio State game there for a while, 0:11:50.880 --> 0:11:52.440 and again a lot too in that D line. 0:11:53.120 --> 0:11:56.920 Very disruptive from both sides of the line. 0:11:57.040 --> 0:11:59.679 I will say, Eddie, I didn't think we walk into 0:11:59.760 --> 0:12:06.320 camp with this being a positioned battle, but I would 0:12:06.440 --> 0:12:11.120 say that like it now might be one of my eyes, 0:12:11.160 --> 0:12:15.920 and that is Jalen Carlis Is starting job Mixesia Franklin. 0:12:16.559 --> 0:12:18.800 When you were out there on Saturday, Carlais was doing 0:12:18.840 --> 0:12:22.360 second teamwork and then yesterday he didn't practice. 0:12:23.040 --> 0:12:27.920 So I just think with how a guy like Joe 0:12:28.000 --> 0:12:28.640 Bachi has. 0:12:28.559 --> 0:12:31.400 Played and has been in the mix, and the familiarity 0:12:31.440 --> 0:12:33.640 between Bachi and Arimo Rimo crack. 0:12:33.720 --> 0:12:36.719 Yeah, it's a great point. I don't know. That's one that. 0:12:38.480 --> 0:12:40.160 If I could use white out? Do they still use 0:12:40.160 --> 0:12:42.079 white out? The kids still do the white out thing? 0:12:42.200 --> 0:12:42.560 Yeah? 0:12:42.640 --> 0:12:45.599 Okay, white out the old sharpie that you might have 0:12:45.640 --> 0:12:48.160 had there on Carlis so and again he messed all 0:12:48.160 --> 0:12:51.880 the spring with his own shoulder situation and recovering from that. 0:12:52.040 --> 0:12:54.000 So you know, as we start to look ahead to 0:12:54.520 --> 0:12:58.600 doing practice preseason games. Okay, what are we watching for? Linebacker? 0:12:58.640 --> 0:13:01.640 Is one that has heavy watching for me, and it's 0:13:01.760 --> 0:13:02.400 kind of three. 0:13:02.240 --> 0:13:03.160 Levels, Eddie. 0:13:03.640 --> 0:13:06.560 One is that spot, is that starting job up for grabs? 0:13:07.080 --> 0:13:11.160 Two is hire Franklin's overall Look seven on seven yesterday, 0:13:11.320 --> 0:13:14.160 we're still waiting eleven on eleven. You can look at 0:13:14.200 --> 0:13:17.080 the Franklin thing. Half a full or half empty. Half 0:13:17.120 --> 0:13:19.679 full says Oh, he's never been hurt, He'll be fine. Well, 0:13:19.679 --> 0:13:23.160 half empty says He's never missed three months in the NFL. 0:13:23.559 --> 0:13:26.360 He's never had a surgery in the NFL, He's nearing thirty. 0:13:26.840 --> 0:13:30.440 How does he react to having this miss time? And 0:13:30.480 --> 0:13:32.000 then the third layer to it would just be the 0:13:32.000 --> 0:13:34.959 overall depth in that room, which I think is a 0:13:35.040 --> 0:13:36.840 question we've had now for a while. 0:13:40.160 --> 0:13:40.400 You know. 0:13:40.679 --> 0:13:43.080 The other thing, unfortunately for me practice was just the 0:13:43.160 --> 0:13:47.720 ugly scene that we saw injury wise Savon Ahmed. Yeah, 0:13:48.600 --> 0:13:50.920 and it was probably one of the more probably one 0:13:50.920 --> 0:13:54.320 of the more jarring eerie scenes I've seen. It was 0:13:54.400 --> 0:13:57.760 reminiscent of de Reice Fountain a few years ago. I 0:13:57.800 --> 0:13:59.800 believe that was against the Browns in a joint practice, 0:13:59.800 --> 0:14:01.640 but I guess just to kind of set the scene 0:14:01.679 --> 0:14:04.679 for everybody. Shane Sikin has done this, i'd say a 0:14:04.679 --> 0:14:08.640 handful of times throughout camp, and that he has allowed 0:14:09.920 --> 0:14:14.920 a full tackling period with the third unit. And on 0:14:15.000 --> 0:14:18.480 the play, Akmed breaks one and he's running down the 0:14:18.520 --> 0:14:26.640 sideline and you see Trey Washington, the undrafted free agent 0:14:26.640 --> 0:14:30.840 at all miss jump kind of on his back from behind, 0:14:31.640 --> 0:14:36.480 and I would say Washington kind of was almost writing 0:14:36.600 --> 0:14:38.800 him for probably five to six yards, And it was 0:14:38.840 --> 0:14:41.240 one of those moments, Eddie, where it started to get 0:14:41.280 --> 0:14:43.200 like I like to watch plays like twenty or thirty 0:14:43.240 --> 0:14:45.640 yards ahead just to kind of get a little leg land. 0:14:45.640 --> 0:14:47.200 So by this point the play was right in front 0:14:47.200 --> 0:14:51.720 of me, and I remember as like Washington was kind 0:14:51.720 --> 0:14:54.120 of pulling against him to slow him down. I remember 0:14:54.160 --> 0:14:58.480 thinking to myself, oh my, it's about to be a 0:14:58.520 --> 0:15:01.040 hip drop moment. Like it had gotten to that point 0:15:01.040 --> 0:15:02.720 of the play of like is Washington gonna let up 0:15:03.200 --> 0:15:05.560 HM or is Achmed just naturally going to go down 0:15:06.000 --> 0:15:07.840 like this is? This is not It's one of those 0:15:07.840 --> 0:15:10.480 awkward periods right now of where it could really get ugly, 0:15:10.960 --> 0:15:15.640 and unfortunately it did. Whereas Washington tries to complete the tackle. 0:15:15.720 --> 0:15:17.800 And I say that in quotes, and it looked and 0:15:17.800 --> 0:15:19.960 again I haven't watched the replay nor I don't even 0:15:20.000 --> 0:15:21.880 know if it's out there, but watching it live, it 0:15:22.000 --> 0:15:25.480 certainly looked like the definition of a hip drop. And 0:15:25.520 --> 0:15:29.760 as soon as he went down, you just knew in 0:15:29.840 --> 0:15:33.560 the field got very quiet, very quickly, and the only 0:15:33.560 --> 0:15:35.880 thing you heard was him screaming. And it was again 0:15:35.920 --> 0:15:39.040 one of the more eerie scenes I've seen on a 0:15:39.440 --> 0:15:42.200 on a practice field, and you know, very quickly everybody's 0:15:42.240 --> 0:15:44.480 on a knee on the field, and you know, players are, 0:15:44.960 --> 0:15:47.200 you know, circling around and think cam Binen led them 0:15:47.200 --> 0:15:48.840 in prayer. It did look like Chris Bouard went over 0:15:48.880 --> 0:15:52.320 to Trey Washington pretty quickly right after the play. I 0:15:52.360 --> 0:15:55.160 assumed some sort of consoling to him because he was 0:15:55.200 --> 0:15:57.320 clearly pretty shooken up. And you know, I thought Zion 0:15:57.320 --> 0:16:00.240 Franklin had some pretty profound words after practic just in 0:16:00.320 --> 0:16:03.160 describing that play from both sides of it, you know, 0:16:03.160 --> 0:16:07.080 Akhmed you feel for him big time. He isn't getting 0:16:07.120 --> 0:16:08.960 up there in age as a running back. He's kind 0:16:08.960 --> 0:16:11.160 of been a journeyman. He was on the practice squad 0:16:11.240 --> 0:16:14.880 last year, he probably realizes what any injury means for 0:16:14.880 --> 0:16:19.080 a running back of that age. And then in Washington's case, 0:16:19.640 --> 0:16:22.480 it's a live tackling period. He's an undrafted free agent. 0:16:23.240 --> 0:16:25.280 You're trying to show hustle, You're trying to do anything 0:16:25.280 --> 0:16:26.160 and everything. 0:16:27.440 --> 0:16:28.160 So I can sit. 0:16:28.280 --> 0:16:31.120 You know, when you watch it live, Sure, the reaction 0:16:31.240 --> 0:16:34.000 is I'll cut his ass. You know, that's the natural 0:16:34.120 --> 0:16:36.000 raw reaction. You know, there's some fans in the stands 0:16:36.000 --> 0:16:39.880 that even reacted to him, and like, I, yes, would 0:16:39.880 --> 0:16:41.680 you like to think he knows that better? But you 0:16:41.680 --> 0:16:43.400 know how the college game is. In the college game, 0:16:43.480 --> 0:16:47.200 plays like that are allowed. The NFL game, it's not. Honestly, 0:16:47.200 --> 0:16:49.360 I thought of the Nick Cross play last year in 0:16:49.400 --> 0:16:53.360 camp when he tackled Josh Dowens from behind and it 0:16:53.440 --> 0:16:56.040 cost Josh Downs a month plus. Yeah, And you know 0:16:56.040 --> 0:16:58.640 when you think about that play, Eddie, that was not 0:16:58.840 --> 0:17:00.000 in a live tackling period. 0:17:00.680 --> 0:17:02.239 And their Cross has been in the league. 0:17:01.960 --> 0:17:04.560 For two, you know years, three years, I guess, And 0:17:04.640 --> 0:17:08.359 so you know that one I you could almost make 0:17:08.480 --> 0:17:10.840 argument like you know there should have been I guess, 0:17:10.880 --> 0:17:12.520 you know, more punishment because you aren't supposed to be 0:17:12.520 --> 0:17:14.800 taking anybody to the ground, whereas like Washington, you were 0:17:14.840 --> 0:17:17.119 allowed to take ocman to the ground, obviously not in 0:17:17.119 --> 0:17:18.040 the manner that he did. 0:17:19.119 --> 0:17:22.159 So it just it's just awful. 0:17:22.200 --> 0:17:25.360 It's an awful scene for for both and obviously aucamed 0:17:26.080 --> 0:17:31.040 more because you know it, the leg looked awful and boom, 0:17:31.040 --> 0:17:33.120 it's the air cast and it's stretchered off. The next 0:17:33.119 --> 0:17:34.800 thing you know, you see the ambulance going across one 0:17:34.840 --> 0:17:37.239 hundred and ninety first Street and all of it. 0:17:37.280 --> 0:17:39.520 There, So certainly some thoughts with him. 0:17:39.520 --> 0:17:41.320 I thought it was one of the more subdued chainstike 0:17:41.400 --> 0:17:44.720 in post practice opening statements that he's had there. 0:17:44.800 --> 0:17:49.800 So yeah, I wanted to make sure that we mentioned that's. 0:17:50.000 --> 0:17:52.480 Anything else, Adie from over the weekend in the last 0:17:52.520 --> 0:17:53.919 couple of days of camp you wanted to get to 0:17:54.040 --> 0:17:57.320 before We will play Kenny Moore the second We caught 0:17:57.359 --> 0:18:00.399 up with him on moving day, and I still think 0:18:00.400 --> 0:18:01.840 it's relatively. 0:18:03.119 --> 0:18:05.560 Timeless, So we'll play that here for you up coming. 0:18:05.960 --> 0:18:08.640 Ady Mitchell has had a good second week. Last week 0:18:08.640 --> 0:18:11.359 of practices, it felt like compared to the opening week. 0:18:11.640 --> 0:18:13.639 Yeah, I would agree. You know, the opinion week was 0:18:13.640 --> 0:18:16.040 a struggle and the hands weren't working. I think I'm 0:18:16.119 --> 0:18:19.359 using Ady Mitchell's words with that, And then you know 0:18:19.480 --> 0:18:22.080 he's kind of taken steps this past week. First shows 0:18:22.080 --> 0:18:24.479 the one on one cooking of Taveri's ward, then it 0:18:24.520 --> 0:18:27.439 was some seven on seven stuff. Then Thursday night it 0:18:27.520 --> 0:18:29.840 was the eleven on eleven and you know that's the thing, like, 0:18:29.920 --> 0:18:32.040 I want to watch him Thursday night, this Thursday night 0:18:32.119 --> 0:18:34.959 against Baltimore. Yeah, because it's the team set. He is 0:18:35.040 --> 0:18:36.560 one of the best one on one white outs I've 0:18:36.560 --> 0:18:40.320 ever seen in a camp setting. To me, it's more 0:18:40.320 --> 0:18:44.880 of the when timing becomes premium and there's ten other 0:18:45.080 --> 0:18:47.399 offensive players and ten other defensive players in the field, 0:18:48.440 --> 0:18:51.280 can you prove to be reliable for your quarterback? He 0:18:51.400 --> 0:18:53.840 says something to that effect the other day of like, 0:18:54.440 --> 0:18:56.440 I've got to get right with the QBS. I think 0:18:56.440 --> 0:18:58.960 that's kind of his way of saying I haven't been 0:18:58.960 --> 0:19:01.240 on the same page with him, and you know, how 0:19:01.280 --> 0:19:02.119 do I go about that? 0:19:02.320 --> 0:19:04.639 So I thought he also was a little you know opening. 0:19:04.640 --> 0:19:07.720 He goes, Yeah, I get open different than the other guys, 0:19:07.760 --> 0:19:10.720 Like I don't. I use tempo and I use speed 0:19:10.720 --> 0:19:15.040 to generate you know, separation. I don't use whatever it is. 0:19:15.480 --> 0:19:17.840 And it's in a good way to create separation. I mean, 0:19:17.880 --> 0:19:21.800 he gets open, but I understand while there is some 0:19:21.880 --> 0:19:25.240 timing differences. I'll be obviously very unterested to how much 0:19:25.920 --> 0:19:27.560 playing time the starters get on Thursday. 0:19:27.600 --> 0:19:31.520 It sounds like the plan with the quarterback is both will. 0:19:31.359 --> 0:19:35.560 Play and one guy will take the majority of them 0:19:35.760 --> 0:19:37.320 Thursday and the other guy will take the majority of 0:19:37.359 --> 0:19:38.200