Speaker 1: Game week, preseason game week. I guess we should probably
Speaker 1: preface by that it's we're back. It is Colt's Corner
Speaker 1: with myself, Kevin bow and Eddie Garrison is with me.
Speaker 1: Off to Baltimore. Actually today we're recording this Monday morning,
Speaker 1: so we've got definitely a few training camp practices to
Speaker 1: recap since our last POD and joint practice coming up
Speaker 1: Tuesday afternoon, preseason opener Thursday nights.
Speaker 2: Eddie, how are you, sir?
Speaker 3: I'm great. Happy Back to school week so some freedom
Speaker 3: for you and missus Bowen during the day.
Speaker 1: Well yeah, yeah, no, that is that is fair. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's been a little bit of a tag team effort
Speaker 1: here last couple of weeks. So yes, looking forward to
Speaker 1: both Max and Rosie back to school. And I believe
Speaker 1: IPS starts this week, so Innneapolis Public schools back and
Speaker 1: we are starting to inch. The crowds are getting a
Speaker 1: little bit smaller at Grand Park. Our weekday practices are
Speaker 1: virtually done. Honestly, we only have four more practices Saturday, Sunday,
Speaker 1: Monday four o'clock I believe start time each of those days,
Speaker 1: and then next Thursday is the joint practice with Green
Speaker 1: Bay and that's it four o'clock. So, yeah, it really
Speaker 1: was a very front loaded.
Speaker 3: That's actually three o'clock. I take that back camp is
Speaker 3: it three o'clock? Yeah, three to five.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a very frontloaded camp.
Speaker 1: And I don't recall the Colts ever having a joint
Speaker 1: practice on the road this early in camp. You know,
Speaker 1: part of that is your preseason schedule. So again in Baltimore,
Speaker 1: I think, you know, they're a great valoulation. They're honestly
Speaker 1: the betting favor right now really win the Super Bowl.
Speaker 1: I think it's slight over the likes of Kansas City
Speaker 1: and Philly and Buffalo, but yeah, they are that so
Speaker 1: well Chuck Bogano action right. The as system with them
Speaker 1: so should be really a good volation point because I
Speaker 1: you know, I will say this, Eddie, August sample sizes
Speaker 1: are small. Yeah, August sample sizes can be dangerous, yes
Speaker 1: they can. August sample sizes in recent years with the
Speaker 1: Colts have largely been pretty accurate.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Last year Anthony Richardson got laughed at by the Cincinnati defense,
Speaker 1: remember that and the Joan practice. Oh really laughing at
Speaker 1: we're running too much or not being able to throw?
Speaker 2: Well, what happened exactly. You know, I think back to
Speaker 2: a couple of years ago.
Speaker 1: I remember the Colts played their starters a little bit
Speaker 1: against Buffalo's backups. I remember that in the preseason game,
Speaker 1: and the Buffalo backups whipped them. Now again, you know,
Speaker 1: we sat here and thought, well, it's just kind of
Speaker 1: one quarter. You know, who cares. And I get that
Speaker 1: the Lions went undefeated of the year, they went oh
Speaker 1: and sixteen in the preseason, and the Colts oftentimes lost
Speaker 1: a ton in the Manning years in the preseason. But
Speaker 1: weirdly with this franchise lately, the August you know, glimpses
Speaker 1: and flashes of it have led to some concrete info.
Speaker 1: So again I think with Baltimore Green Bay, two good
Speaker 1: measuring sticks, and we'll see how this weekend next week unfolds.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that kind of echoes what Jim, Bob Cooter and
Speaker 3: Lou and Arimo said on Saturday, Like they there was
Speaker 3: a ton of questions about, like, hey, how do you
Speaker 3: think you know so and so it's performed in campas
Speaker 3: far what do you like, whatever, you liked this, that
Speaker 3: and the other, and both of them essentially flat out
Speaker 3: said like it's hard to evaluate these when we're going
Speaker 3: up against each other. But and you've really kind of
Speaker 3: figure out what you got and who you got and
Speaker 3: what kind of season some players are going to have
Speaker 3: when these joint practices start rolling around. And they were
Speaker 3: both looking forward to Baltimore tomorrow.
Speaker 1: Let's come back to Thursday night, Eddie. So we'll talk
Speaker 1: about Thursday's practice, Saturday, and Sunday here on this pod.
Speaker 1: Good amount of twital questions and I would say kind
Speaker 1: of a variety, So looking forward to that as always.
Speaker 1: But I'll start here with the night practice Thursday. Tremendous
Speaker 1: idea about Shane Steiken. I mean, if you have that's
Speaker 1: your only experience in an NFL practice, you were like, wait,
Speaker 1: I need to come to more of these. It was entertaining.
Speaker 1: The lights feel, of course, brings just a little bit
Speaker 1: more of I think this is a cool atmosphere. But
Speaker 1: they did a ton of eleven on eleven work. Daniel
Speaker 1: Jones through it twenty seven times in practice. I think
Speaker 1: Richardson threw at nineteen. Those are big, big numbers from
Speaker 1: both of those quarterbacks there, and I would say the
Speaker 1: qbs were really good and Richardson had, you know, some
Speaker 1: big time fireworks. Now, just like yesterday's practice, the Colts
Speaker 1: wore down three of their top five corners in that practice.
Speaker 1: And you know, Eddie, my general thought on Richardson is this,
Speaker 1: and I thought the Shane Styken quote after that Thursday
Speaker 1: practice kind of agreed.
Speaker 2: With my sentiment.
Speaker 1: I largely think if you were to do a one
Speaker 1: week highlight reel of Anthony Richardson's first training camp week
Speaker 1: ever in the NFL, the twenty twenty four first week
Speaker 1: of camp and then this year, you would watch the
Speaker 1: three and if I made you go to the eye
Speaker 1: doctor and say, hey, which one's the clearest, you would
Speaker 1: say twenty twenty five.
Speaker 2: So I just think of it's generally been cleaner, clearer,
Speaker 2: less turnover worthy balls, less ground balls, less air mail
Speaker 2: hitting the rooster, you know, those sorts of egregious throws.
Speaker 2: There's been fewer of those.
Speaker 1: And then again, I thought last Thursday he sprinkled in
Speaker 1: some big time deep balls. Adie Mitchell and Ashton Doolan
Speaker 1: had really good camps. You know, there was a moment
Speaker 1: in that Thursday night practice where Jones went first with
Speaker 1: the starters and he his drive kind of stalled out.
Speaker 1: I think Richardson was maybe incomplete drying a deep ball
Speaker 1: or a deep ish ball on his first play with
Speaker 1: than the second unit, and then he on court one
Speaker 1: to Doolin, and it was just one of those reminders
Speaker 1: of like, are you gonna live with the dink and dunk?
Speaker 1: Are you gonna live with one that is more willing
Speaker 1: to throw it down the field and oftentimes more accurate.
Speaker 3: Mm hmm.
Speaker 1: Now again there's risk, but that's the dilemma that Shane
Speaker 1: Second has to have. Are you going to live with
Speaker 1: the quarterback that's more predictable Daniel Jones or the one
Speaker 1: that again can maybe give you a little bit more
Speaker 1: feast or famine. You know that Thursday night practice because
Speaker 1: Saturday was awful for the two qbs, but that had
Speaker 1: probably been a run of like three or four practices
Speaker 1: where both of them not only I don't think of
Speaker 1: throwing a pick in eleven on eleven, I don't recall
Speaker 1: many interceptible balls even you know, like drops from from
Speaker 1: the defense.
Speaker 2: So that was probably the highlight of the night.
Speaker 1: I did think to Lot too, just like yesterday, I
Speaker 1: thought he led a pretty good pass rush effort there,
Speaker 1: and that was without Buckner. So if you go back
Speaker 1: that Thursday night practice, Adie, they didn't have they probably
Speaker 1: didn't have their best player at every level. Mm hmm Buckner,
Speaker 1: Zire Franklin. And then I guess you can debate on
Speaker 1: the back end who your best player is, but to
Speaker 1: various wards. So again I thought Ady Mitchell was really good.
Speaker 1: I thought Duelan was good. I thought, well, Mallory continues
Speaker 1: to kind of stack some days together. Obviously, the highlight
Speaker 1: of that Thursday night was that Tyler Warren catch. And
Speaker 1: you know, I think, and you watch it full speed,
Speaker 1: it really stands out, really stood out to me at least.
Speaker 1: You just don't see tight ends make catches like that. No,
Speaker 1: you don't see tight ends have that type of body
Speaker 1: control in the air falling to the ground. Stab it
Speaker 1: with the left Jalen Carlis had beautiful coverage, beautiful coverage,
Speaker 1: and it's funny you go back and you watch it.
Speaker 1: I thought Camra Groan's reaction in the background was great,
Speaker 1: just the immediate hands of the helmet, like I can't
Speaker 1: believe that just happened. Again, Carlis the right when Daniel
Speaker 1: Jones threw it, I go, that's an that's an overthrow.
Speaker 1: That might even be you know, picked, So that is
Speaker 1: something that stood out. But yeah, you know, the corner
Speaker 1: injuries obviously starting to pile up a little bit. They've
Speaker 1: been down three of their five starters. With that, ooh,
Speaker 1: we got an ore from the depth chart. Daniel Jones
Speaker 1: or Anthony.
Speaker 3: Is not the only or.
Speaker 1: I'm trying to score right now. Tanner Bordolini is your starter.
Speaker 1: I would say that's probably been more we've seen so far.
Speaker 3: No Dandy Pinter missed practice on Saturday. Was he back
Speaker 3: out there on Sunday back yesterday? Okay, I think that
Speaker 3: is your only or as I go through the whole
Speaker 3: depth chart.
Speaker 1: So that was something that I thought kind of stood out,
Speaker 1: and that you know, they we saw them sign the
Speaker 1: two corners as well, you know we hadn't. Yeah, that's
Speaker 1: usually a tell of Jalen Jones is going to miss time,
Speaker 1: Juju Brent's gonna miss time. I think it was a
Speaker 1: little bit more severe on the Jalen Jones front than
Speaker 1: it was on the Juju Brents front. But yeah, I
Speaker 1: thought it was a good night for the pressure guys.
Speaker 1: You know, guys that you would list as having a
Speaker 1: lot of pressure on the roster. I e a lot
Speaker 1: to I E. You know Quiddy pay had a big
Speaker 1: play to end practice. You know Mitchell, you know those
Speaker 1: sorts of guys that you look at, So.
Speaker 2: Starting there, Eddie.
Speaker 1: I thought, Thursday night great night for entertainment practice and
Speaker 1: also probably the most fireworks we've seen so far camp.
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Speaker 2: I did much needed both of those things. Yes, much
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Speaker 1: Let's transition to Saturday. I thought, probably the rockiest day
Speaker 1: of camp so far. It does seem like when they
Speaker 1: get into the red zone stuff.
Speaker 3: I will take blame for that. I was there Saturday.
Speaker 2: Yes, you were there, so you you definitely saw it.
Speaker 1: You see guys struggle with throwing, the anticipation, throwing, vacuracy,
Speaker 1: the windows get tighter. Richardson was about three of ten,
Speaker 1: was picked I think twice, or maybe should have been
Speaker 1: picked twice. I think Walmack might have dropped one. Kennymore
Speaker 1: definitely got him on one. Daniel Jones was picked twice
Speaker 1: and seven on seven. I thought Jones was less worse,
Speaker 1: if that is the right way to put it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he had a two minute drive to end practice. I
Speaker 1: thought there's a good note to end it. Whereas Richardson
Speaker 1: I think stalled out.
Speaker 3: They got a first down on the first play, then
Speaker 3: they went three and out.
Speaker 2: Yes, exactly.
Speaker 1: So you know, this is where you get into a
Speaker 1: little bit of like, all right, you know how much
Speaker 1: or a are you gonna throw it? Red zone goal
Speaker 1: to go? I mean to me, I've said this before.
Speaker 1: I think one of their greatest strengths is the football
Speaker 1: team this year will be running the ball in those
Speaker 1: short yard each moments. So I don't think they're just
Speaker 1: gonna drop back and throw it as much as they
Speaker 1: did and that. Now that might sound like I'm, you know,
Speaker 1: trying to make excuses for the quarterbacks, but I do
Speaker 1: think there is some you know, kind of context around it.
Speaker 3: I think play action becames just a huge part of
Speaker 3: their offense in the red zone two you.
Speaker 2: And I mean again, they're gonna move worn all over
Speaker 2: and they're gonna do funky stuff with you know, tight
Speaker 2: ends and unbalanced lines and you know, quarterback run obviously
Speaker 2: is gonna be a huge, huge part of it.
Speaker 1: So I think that is all necessary context when you
Speaker 1: talk about that. But nonetheless, it was a really poor
Speaker 1: day for those guys. Ward was back. You know, if
Speaker 1: these last three practices, it's like the day Ward has
Speaker 1: been there, the DB's been really good and he had
Speaker 1: a big pass deflection in that practice, whereas when he
Speaker 1: has been out there, they've kind of feasted on them.
Speaker 1: I guess we should say Spencer Schrader is probably the
Speaker 1: overwhelming leader right now in the kicker battle. Brian Jason
Speaker 1: did share those numbers after practice, like eighty seven percent
Speaker 1: to seventy four him and Maddocks.
Speaker 2: True.
Speaker 3: Ho, so is that the right pronunciation? Did we get
Speaker 3: that correct? I don't know, we mean, he asked Matt Taylor.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, I know that's yeah. I was like, oh,
Speaker 2: is it Joe Bachi? Is it Joe Batchie Bochi?
Speaker 3: Like the ball?
Speaker 1: Yes, exactly, like the ball. I thought the quarterbacks bounced
Speaker 1: back yesterday. Now again you're down three or four quarterbacks.
Speaker 1: I had them both Town of fourteen. I thought it
Speaker 1: was Riley Leonard's best day of work. That's probably not
Speaker 1: saying a whole lot. He's been largely inaccurate through this camp,
Speaker 1: but he was slinging that like it was, you know,
Speaker 1: second half of the Ohio State game there for a while,
Speaker 1: and again a lot too in that D line.
Speaker 2: Very disruptive from both sides of the line.
Speaker 1: I will say, Eddie, I didn't think we walk into
Speaker 1: camp with this being a positioned battle, but I would
Speaker 1: say that like it now might be one of my eyes,
Speaker 1: and that is Jalen Carlis Is starting job Mixesia Franklin.
Speaker 1: When you were out there on Saturday, Carlais was doing
Speaker 1: second teamwork and then yesterday he didn't practice.
Speaker 2: So I just think with how a guy like Joe
Speaker 2: Bachi has.
Speaker 3: Played and has been in the mix, and the familiarity
Speaker 3: between Bachi and Arimo Rimo crack.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a great point. I don't know. That's one that.
Speaker 1: If I could use white out? Do they still use
Speaker 1: white out? The kids still do the white out thing?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Okay, white out the old sharpie that you might have
Speaker 1: had there on Carlis so and again he messed all
Speaker 1: the spring with his own shoulder situation and recovering from that.
Speaker 1: So you know, as we start to look ahead to
Speaker 1: doing practice preseason games. Okay, what are we watching for? Linebacker?
Speaker 1: Is one that has heavy watching for me, and it's
Speaker 1: kind of three.
Speaker 2: Levels, Eddie.
Speaker 1: One is that spot, is that starting job up for grabs?
Speaker 1: Two is hire Franklin's overall Look seven on seven yesterday,
Speaker 1: we're still waiting eleven on eleven. You can look at
Speaker 1: the Franklin thing. Half a full or half empty. Half
Speaker 1: full says Oh, he's never been hurt, He'll be fine. Well,
Speaker 1: half empty says He's never missed three months in the NFL.
Speaker 1: He's never had a surgery in the NFL, He's nearing thirty.
Speaker 1: How does he react to having this miss time? And
Speaker 1: then the third layer to it would just be the
Speaker 1: overall depth in that room, which I think is a
Speaker 1: question we've had now for a while.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: The other thing, unfortunately for me practice was just the
Speaker 1: ugly scene that we saw injury wise Savon Ahmed. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and it was probably one of the more probably one
Speaker 1: of the more jarring eerie scenes I've seen. It was
Speaker 1: reminiscent of de Reice Fountain a few years ago. I
Speaker 1: believe that was against the Browns in a joint practice,
Speaker 1: but I guess just to kind of set the scene
Speaker 1: for everybody. Shane Sikin has done this, i'd say a
Speaker 1: handful of times throughout camp, and that he has allowed
Speaker 1: a full tackling period with the third unit. And on
Speaker 1: the play, Akmed breaks one and he's running down the
Speaker 1: sideline and you see Trey Washington, the undrafted free agent
Speaker 1: at all miss jump kind of on his back from behind,
Speaker 1: and I would say Washington kind of was almost writing
Speaker 1: him for probably five to six yards, And it was
Speaker 1: one of those moments, Eddie, where it started to get
Speaker 1: like I like to watch plays like twenty or thirty
Speaker 1: yards ahead just to kind of get a little leg land.
Speaker 1: So by this point the play was right in front
Speaker 1: of me, and I remember as like Washington was kind
Speaker 1: of pulling against him to slow him down. I remember
Speaker 1: thinking to myself, oh my, it's about to be a
Speaker 1: hip drop moment. Like it had gotten to that point
Speaker 1: of the play of like is Washington gonna let up
Speaker 1: HM or is Achmed just naturally going to go down
Speaker 1: like this is? This is not It's one of those
Speaker 1: awkward periods right now of where it could really get ugly,
Speaker 1: and unfortunately it did. Whereas Washington tries to complete the tackle.
Speaker 1: And I say that in quotes, and it looked and
Speaker 1: again I haven't watched the replay nor I don't even
Speaker 1: know if it's out there, but watching it live, it
Speaker 1: certainly looked like the definition of a hip drop. And
Speaker 1: as soon as he went down, you just knew in
Speaker 1: the field got very quiet, very quickly, and the only
Speaker 1: thing you heard was him screaming. And it was again
Speaker 1: one of the more eerie scenes I've seen on a
Speaker 1: on a practice field, and you know, very quickly everybody's
Speaker 1: on a knee on the field, and you know, players are,
Speaker 1: you know, circling around and think cam Binen led them
Speaker 1: in prayer. It did look like Chris Bouard went over
Speaker 1: to Trey Washington pretty quickly right after the play. I
Speaker 1: assumed some sort of consoling to him because he was
Speaker 1: clearly pretty shooken up. And you know, I thought Zion
Speaker 1: Franklin had some pretty profound words after practic just in
Speaker 1: describing that play from both sides of it, you know,
Speaker 1: Akhmed you feel for him big time. He isn't getting
Speaker 1: up there in age as a running back. He's kind
Speaker 1: of been a journeyman. He was on the practice squad
Speaker 1: last year, he probably realizes what any injury means for
Speaker 1: a running back of that age. And then in Washington's case,
Speaker 1: it's a live tackling period. He's an undrafted free agent.
Speaker 1: You're trying to show hustle, You're trying to do anything
Speaker 1: and everything.
Speaker 2: So I can sit.
Speaker 1: You know, when you watch it live, Sure, the reaction
Speaker 1: is I'll cut his ass. You know, that's the natural
Speaker 1: raw reaction. You know, there's some fans in the stands
Speaker 1: that even reacted to him, and like, I, yes, would
Speaker 1: you like to think he knows that better? But you
Speaker 1: know how the college game is. In the college game,
Speaker 1: plays like that are allowed. The NFL game, it's not. Honestly,
Speaker 1: I thought of the Nick Cross play last year in
Speaker 1: camp when he tackled Josh Dowens from behind and it
Speaker 1: cost Josh Downs a month plus. Yeah, And you know
Speaker 1: when you think about that play, Eddie, that was not
Speaker 1: in a live tackling period.
Speaker 2: And their Cross has been in the league.
Speaker 1: For two, you know years, three years, I guess, And
Speaker 1: so you know that one I you could almost make
Speaker 1: argument like you know there should have been I guess,
Speaker 1: you know, more punishment because you aren't supposed to be
Speaker 1: taking anybody to the ground, whereas like Washington, you were
Speaker 1: allowed to take ocman to the ground, obviously not in
Speaker 1: the manner that he did.
Speaker 2: So it just it's just awful.
Speaker 1: It's an awful scene for for both and obviously aucamed
Speaker 1: more because you know it, the leg looked awful and boom,
Speaker 1: it's the air cast and it's stretchered off. The next
Speaker 1: thing you know, you see the ambulance going across one
Speaker 1: hundred and ninety first Street and all of it.
Speaker 2: There, So certainly some thoughts with him.
Speaker 1: I thought it was one of the more subdued chainstike
Speaker 1: in post practice opening statements that he's had there.
Speaker 2: So yeah, I wanted to make sure that we mentioned that's.
Speaker 1: Anything else, Adie from over the weekend in the last
Speaker 1: couple of days of camp you wanted to get to
Speaker 1: before We will play Kenny Moore the second We caught
Speaker 1: up with him on moving day, and I still think
Speaker 1: it's relatively.
Speaker 2: Timeless, So we'll play that here for you up coming.
Speaker 3: Ady Mitchell has had a good second week. Last week
Speaker 3: of practices, it felt like compared to the opening week.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I would agree. You know, the opinion week was
Speaker 1: a struggle and the hands weren't working. I think I'm
Speaker 1: using Ady Mitchell's words with that, And then you know
Speaker 1: he's kind of taken steps this past week. First shows
Speaker 1: the one on one cooking of Taveri's ward, then it
Speaker 1: was some seven on seven stuff. Then Thursday night it
Speaker 1: was the eleven on eleven and you know that's the thing, like,
Speaker 1: I want to watch him Thursday night, this Thursday night
Speaker 1: against Baltimore. Yeah, because it's the team set. He is
Speaker 1: one of the best one on one white outs I've
Speaker 1: ever seen in a camp setting. To me, it's more
Speaker 1: of the when timing becomes premium and there's ten other
Speaker 1: offensive players and ten other defensive players in the field,
Speaker 1: can you prove to be reliable for your quarterback? He
Speaker 1: says something to that effect the other day of like,
Speaker 1: I've got to get right with the QBS. I think
Speaker 1: that's kind of his way of saying I haven't been
Speaker 1: on the same page with him, and you know, how
Speaker 1: do I go about that?
Speaker 3: So I thought he also was a little you know opening.
Speaker 3: He goes, Yeah, I get open different than the other guys,
Speaker 3: Like I don't. I use tempo and I use speed
Speaker 3: to generate you know, separation. I don't use whatever it is.
Speaker 1: And it's in a good way to create separation. I mean,
Speaker 1: he gets open, but I understand while there is some
Speaker 1: timing differences. I'll be obviously very unterested to how much
Speaker 1: playing time the starters get on Thursday.
Speaker 2: It sounds like the plan with the quarterback is both will.
Speaker 1: Play and one guy will take the majority of them
Speaker 1: Thursday and the other guy will take the majority of
Speaker 1: them and gets screen.
Speaker 2: Bay So and that makes sense.
Speaker 1: I think when you have three preseason games and then
Speaker 1: maybe after that you make a decision one way or
Speaker 1: the other. It didn't sound like he was as open
Speaker 1: as playing the starting defense.
Speaker 2: As I would like to see.
Speaker 1: He Shane stagn kind of he didn't have much urgency
Speaker 1: and describing the need to play the starting defense too
Speaker 1: too much so.
Speaker 3: As they have the joint practice tomorrow Tuesday against Baltimore.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but you only have two. You know, in a
Speaker 2: lot of these years you've had three or even four.
Speaker 1: So I don't it's a fair question, Eddie, But I don't,
Speaker 1: you know, you hear coach oftentimes saying, well, they're not
Speaker 1: gonna play their starters, so we're not gonna play ours.
Speaker 1: I'm like, well, they're the Super Bowl favorite. You're not
Speaker 1: m So it's not apples to apples. They've had Lamar
Speaker 1: Jackson for seven years now, Like it's not like that
Speaker 1: to me is not comparable really, So I get the
Speaker 1: guys get heard, and you know, you never know what
Speaker 1: can happen. But I'd like to see the starters play
Speaker 1: a little bit more. But it sounds like on that
Speaker 1: side of the ball, it will not happen there. Unless
Speaker 1: you've got anything else to add, Eddie, let's do a
Speaker 1: little Kenny Moore action. This was from again Moving day
Speaker 1: Colt's training camps. A big picture combo here the man
Speaker 1: on the side of the building.
Speaker 2: A great story. Kenny Moore, the second Kenny Moore the
Speaker 2: second year nine.
Speaker 4: Any you have that right wherever you where's the time going?
Speaker 2: We might have to dump that one. Mark. How's the body?
Speaker 5: The body's great? Body's great.
Speaker 1: How much is training different for you? Like June July
Speaker 1: when you hit summer vacation. What did it look like
Speaker 1: in twenty seventeen, twenty eighteen, what does it look like
Speaker 1: now twenty twenty five.
Speaker 4: I think just as a young player in Earligue, you
Speaker 4: were just trying to figure out what is act.
Speaker 5: That my body the need?
Speaker 4: Where do I want to go as far as you know,
Speaker 4: how does my body feel? I think I was feeling
Speaker 4: worse during that time of twenty seventeen. I mean it
Speaker 4: sounds crazy, but you know you're going from straight from
Speaker 4: college to the draft to you know, obviously the compound
Speaker 4: and everything straight to OTAs you know, mini camps and
Speaker 4: all that stuff. So I didn't really get much of
Speaker 4: a break. But obviously you're nine and I've got some
Speaker 4: breaks after the season, spring training, and then you get
Speaker 4: another break after that. So over the years i'd be
Speaker 4: get to learn what exactly I need from my body
Speaker 4: to be ready for day one and training camp.
Speaker 6: Kenny, what's the biggest difference or growth you've kind of
Speaker 6: seeing yourself from you know, being undrafted till year nine
Speaker 6: and you know, earning a couple of contracts, Like, what's
Speaker 6: been the biggest overall lesson that you've kind of taken
Speaker 6: away from this game so far?
Speaker 5: Ooh, that's a great question.
Speaker 4: I think the first thing that popped it in my
Speaker 4: head was management and managing my mental, my physical, and
Speaker 4: my emotional and you know, every year you playing in
Speaker 4: the league or every year that kind of goes by
Speaker 4: you somehow. You beginning to know more people, you begin
Speaker 4: to do more stuff, you gain more interest, you find
Speaker 4: out what I like and dislike. So I think managing
Speaker 4: all those things to make sure you can go back
Speaker 4: out and perform at a high level, and make sure
Speaker 4: you can go out and delegate all this time to
Speaker 4: other people, the family, yourself, the balance the management of
Speaker 4: all the those things is is very important. So I
Speaker 4: think for me personally, the management space of my life
Speaker 4: has been.
Speaker 6: Definitely most important along those lines of having like other responsibilities.
Speaker 6: I know you're, you know, involved with the NFLPA as
Speaker 6: far as the colts and things like that. How much
Speaker 6: do you pay attention to what happened this offseason as
Speaker 6: far as you know the reports that hey, they were
Speaker 6: you know, colluding to not give you all guaranteed contracts
Speaker 6: and things of that nature.
Speaker 4: Well, those are those are things that I'm still learning about.
Speaker 4: I think those are just ongoing things. Like every week
Speaker 4: it's kind of something new coming out, so we'll get
Speaker 4: to the bottom of it with time. But yeah, I'm
Speaker 4: I'm just not learning about those things in the last
Speaker 4: couple of weeks or so. It's not nothing that I
Speaker 4: was already aware of in years prior to this one.
Speaker 4: So I think it's news to everybody. I think it's
Speaker 4: business is crazy, obviously, and there's a lot of more
Speaker 4: that goes into a lot of things around here and so.
Speaker 5: And that's all I have to say about it.
Speaker 1: Seal of a story. Undrafted free agent Kenny more than second.
Speaker 1: It's had a great NFL career and it's year nine
Speaker 1: upcoming here for the cult, he joins us here live.
Speaker 2: At Grand Park.
Speaker 1: Kenny, what what's left on the individual? I don't know
Speaker 1: if you're a big goal guy, but on the individual
Speaker 1: list for you to achieve in your NFL careering.
Speaker 5: Sorry, I keep tearsing.
Speaker 4: I think that I mean left to achieve. I mean, look,
Speaker 4: the game doesn't owe me anything. It doesn't owe me anything.
Speaker 4: I just keep working hard.
Speaker 5: That's it.
Speaker 4: That's what I holder myself is hard work and I
Speaker 4: gotta be that's that's that's all I'm responsible of. That's
Speaker 4: all I can control is is how I approach the game.
Speaker 4: I truly believe if you love a game, it'll love
Speaker 4: you back. And you know I don't. I don't want
Speaker 4: to write myself short or just say I'm I've already
Speaker 4: done what I was supposed to do.
Speaker 5: But look, I'm I'm nine years in.
Speaker 4: I feel great, my family is happy, and I I
Speaker 4: just feel like I'm winning. Uh.
Speaker 5: I wasn't supposed to be here year nine. Uh.
Speaker 4: I was going into two weeks at at New England
Speaker 4: and I thought I was gonna be erased. I thought
Speaker 4: I was gonna be back in Valdosta. I was two
Speaker 4: weeks as a coach and I thought I was gonna
Speaker 4: be back in Valdosta from special teams, penalties and all
Speaker 4: that bs. So, Uh, I'm here now, and I feel like,
Speaker 4: I don't know, I kind of own. I kind of
Speaker 4: own everything that's that has happened in my career. It's
Speaker 4: been a it's been a great movie so far. So
Speaker 4: I'm looking forward to channeling everything that I have in
Speaker 4: me to have a ah, A great a ninth year
Speaker 4: in the league.
Speaker 5: Uh.
Speaker 4: It's kind of crazy to keep saying that, but I'm
Speaker 4: having a lot of fun. I just really wanna win.
Speaker 1: M You just use the word proactive to describe how
Speaker 1: you think this defense will be.
Speaker 2: Can you expand on that.
Speaker 4: Preparation knowing who you're going against, having a plan and
Speaker 4: easily adaptable.
Speaker 6: And then Kenny to kind of piggyback of what you
Speaker 6: were saying over here on the other side of the
Speaker 6: tent when it comes to trying to become a top
Speaker 6: five defense, you know, with the pieces that you all have,
Speaker 6: the talent you all have on this roster. Lou Anroumo
Speaker 6: coming in, you talked about winning, you know, off the field,
Speaker 6: and having so much that's individual in your career. But
Speaker 6: as you go into your nine and kind of knowing, Okay,
Speaker 6: I don't know if I'll play another nine after this,
Speaker 6: what's the desire level to just you know, again, like
Speaker 6: you said, not be a race and have something that
Speaker 6: you can look back on and be like, Okay, well
Speaker 6: this was this.
Speaker 5: Year or two years or whatever.
Speaker 6: How many years we really had something special and we
Speaker 6: went and did something special.
Speaker 4: I don't know, I I I just feel like my
Speaker 4: approach to the game is always different. A lot of
Speaker 4: people way to their careers off of wins and losses,
Speaker 4: you know, if I had a ring or not. But
Speaker 4: I've always approached the game, you know, since my senior
Speaker 4: year of high school was I played this game to
Speaker 4: have fun.
Speaker 5: My high school was really good.
Speaker 4: I saw them winning a lot even though we got
Speaker 4: beat first round the playoffs. We had a lot of
Speaker 4: fun that season and that kind of transitioned into playing
Speaker 4: Division two football. I went to a really good program
Speaker 4: who had just won uh AN a national title, and
Speaker 4: I met a lot of great people, had a lot
Speaker 4: of great teammates over there in Valdosta State, had a
Speaker 4: lot of great coaches every single year, had a new
Speaker 4: defensive system every single year. But somehow we were able to, uh,
Speaker 4: you know, have some fun. And that just kept me
Speaker 4: in it, man, That's that just kept me in it
Speaker 4: if it was too much, you know, raw, raw, and
Speaker 4: like we gotta do this like then out of out
Speaker 4: of all, out of love with football a long time ago.
Speaker 4: And then over here in Indianapolis, like, of course, we
Speaker 4: definitely want to win. We definitely have a lot too
Speaker 4: old to the city of Indianapolis, and we want to
Speaker 4: get that accomplished. But I've had a lot of fun
Speaker 4: here at Indy, and honestly, we we got to figure
Speaker 4: out how to have even more fun this year. We
Speaker 4: gotta have fun from the jump and me individually, that's
Speaker 4: how I stay in it, you know, That's why you know,
Speaker 4: the dances come out, you know, all the hand shades
Speaker 4: and stuff, cause that's that's a little boy and me
Speaker 4: that that that's what I always loved about ball, was
Speaker 4: the dancing, the camaraderie, the partying on the plane that
Speaker 4: those are the things that I like to talk about.
Speaker 4: I don't talk about, oh, third down, Like at the
Speaker 4: end of this game, I did this like that, like
Speaker 4: that's cool out of appearance or something like that. But
Speaker 4: like if I'm in the backyard with the guys, I'm
Speaker 4: I'm talking about jumping up with DeForest, you know after
Speaker 4: his act. Like those are cool moments for me because
Speaker 4: that's that's that's that's the little boy. That's that's what
Speaker 4: I always saw the game of football ass and so
Speaker 4: like like the way they talked about mister Ersay and
Speaker 4: how he was an owner and and he he led
Speaker 4: the organization as his little boy self, like he putting
Speaker 4: them pads on, taking pictures with the guys, Like that
Speaker 4: meant a lot to me. To me because that's the
Speaker 4: same vision that I have for football. That's that's what
Speaker 4: I see. And I don't want to ramble on, but
Speaker 4: that's that's just my approach. That's why I played the
Speaker 4: game of staff kid's game.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 1: It is Kenny more than the second with us here
Speaker 1: a couple more minutes. We appreciate your time. On this
Speaker 1: report day, we heard some of the members of the
Speaker 1: coaching staff single out rookie Justin Wally in the spring.
Speaker 1: Your early impressions of the third round corner out of Minnesota.
Speaker 4: My early impressions, I mean, I think he has everything.
Speaker 4: He has, what he has, what it takes to to
Speaker 4: play in his game alone time. He he loves football.
Speaker 4: I can I can see that he knows how to
Speaker 4: play football and he has the instincts and awareness to
Speaker 4: be a great player. His ceiling is really high. If
Speaker 4: I was to pit two guys that I'm really high on,
Speaker 4: let's say three that I'm really high on.
Speaker 5: A is a ID.
Speaker 4: I'm not Mitchell Wally, And I really do like Peers. Yeah,
Speaker 4: not just because I go against him, but it was
Speaker 4: too offensive and one that's.
Speaker 5: Fair, that's fair.
Speaker 6: And I guess to that point, what stands out to
Speaker 6: you about eighty Mitchell? And we get it like last
Speaker 6: year and he's admitted like, hey, I had to learn
Speaker 6: how to be a pro. But yeah, when you line
Speaker 6: up against this guy.
Speaker 4: In pro I'm saying, like potential and tool wise like
Speaker 4: he has the tools like I'm excited.
Speaker 5: I'm excited what we have.
Speaker 1: Josh Downs joined us here, and I think when we
Speaker 1: talk good on good out here, there might not be
Speaker 1: a better matchup than when you two go against each
Speaker 1: other one on once.
Speaker 5: If we go best out of seven, yeah, I mean yeah,
Speaker 5: that's opinion.
Speaker 2: It would you a gree that or no?
Speaker 5: If it's the best matchup, I'm not sure.
Speaker 2: Passed out of seven you Josh Downs one on.
Speaker 5: One, We're gonna find out here in training.
Speaker 2: You think Johns will answer it?
Speaker 5: I'm not sure. I'm not sure.
Speaker 2: Well, end of this.
Speaker 1: You look like a very busy man this offseason, and
Speaker 1: feel free to fill in any gaps.
Speaker 2: You're over in Germany for the draft. Did you do
Speaker 2: a little Brewers spring training?
Speaker 5: Did I see that I did?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 4: I got a buddy that I grew up with. He's
Speaker 4: a he's a picture for them. What was the best
Speaker 4: thing you did his name dial Hall this off season?
Speaker 4: Because I was the best thing I did this off season?
Speaker 4: Or with the Brewers spring training?
Speaker 1: Well, I mean, feel free to share about the Brewers
Speaker 1: spring training experience.
Speaker 5: But I mean, look, I just love sports.
Speaker 4: Like it's just a little boy amy and so uh
Speaker 4: I went out there and I tried to get some
Speaker 4: bad impact practicing, you know, in the cages and stuff.
Speaker 4: And I was already a little nervous because you and
Speaker 4: you walk in there and you're here, how fast you
Speaker 4: know those pictures are going. You're just like, all right,
Speaker 4: it's got to be the hardest thing in sports is
Speaker 4: hit between us.
Speaker 5: And so.
Speaker 4: We put They got this machine called the traject and
Speaker 4: on the Trajet you can put up any picture and
Speaker 4: you can put any pitch, any speed, whatever you want.
Speaker 4: So that on a traject, it's just it's this entire
Speaker 4: screen and it's digital. The picture actually shows up on
Speaker 4: his things, so you think you're in the park. And
Speaker 4: so as soon as he's about to release the ball,
Speaker 4: the pitch just comes out of this machine and we
Speaker 4: put up Paul schemes and shout out to Paul Skins.
Speaker 4: I cannot put a put a ball in play. But
Speaker 4: I mean it was like eighty nine, mid nineties, all
Speaker 4: types of pitches, and uh I made contact, but they're
Speaker 4: all foul balls.
Speaker 5: All right.
Speaker 4: I gotta try to at least you made some contact.
Speaker 4: That was our first time. I'm usually better off the
Speaker 4: second time I do stuff.
Speaker 2: But if you could be a pro athlete and any
Speaker 2: other sport.
Speaker 5: To be that's tough. That's tough. I really that's tough.
Speaker 5: I don't know.
Speaker 4: Formula one is pretty cool, but it's something about some
Speaker 4: soccer hm, English Premier League striker that's me.
Speaker 6: Look at that, see spoken like somebody else, naturally good
Speaker 6: at probably every sport growing up.
Speaker 1: I feel like one day I was walking back to
Speaker 1: media sent over here.
Speaker 2: I look over and you weren't you kicking with I
Speaker 2: did that a couple of years.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, what did guy say about NNY summer?
Speaker 4: Really?
Speaker 5: You want to see his social media post? I'm like,
Speaker 5: he just be doing stuff. I just do. Yeah, that's
Speaker 5: thet I'm watching the draft.
Speaker 2: I'm wait, there's Kenny Moore.
Speaker 5: I wasn't even supported.
Speaker 4: I didn't think I was gonna be doing that, to
Speaker 4: be honest, I just went over there to do some
Speaker 4: American football football academies, that's all. That's that's why I
Speaker 4: went over there, is to do football clinics and to
Speaker 4: further their game in American football, you know, as we're
Speaker 4: trying to you know, make this whole thing international and
Speaker 4: stuff like that our market is Germany and we just
Speaker 4: spanned it. We just expanded our markets too to uh
Speaker 4: Switzerland and Austria. But uh yeah, I just wanted to
Speaker 4: go over there to Germany and tap into the market
Speaker 4: and have some fun doing football, and that opportunity came up,
Speaker 4: so we did it all right.
Speaker 1: Last last thing, I lied greatly appreciate your time driving
Speaker 1: by lukasaol Stadium.
Speaker 2: What does that mean to see you on the side.
Speaker 5: Of that building.
Speaker 4: That'll never become normal to me. I'm a I'm a
Speaker 4: graphics guy. I'm a I studied mass media and communication
Speaker 4: arts in college. Whenever I was there, present shout out
Speaker 4: of VSU, so that whole area is like that. That's
Speaker 4: just what I love. I love graphics, I just love
Speaker 4: I don't know, that's a that's an achievement as as
Speaker 4: as it is. You know, driving by that think I
Speaker 4: lived downtown. So my family always took a picture of
Speaker 4: that every time they see it. And that'll never that'll
Speaker 4: never grow over to me.
Speaker 5: So I really appreciate the Colts doing that.
Speaker 1: Thank you to number twenty three, Thank you to Kenny.
Speaker 1: Really one of the great stories in Colt's history period.
Speaker 1: And you know, obviously it was with New England first
Speaker 1: and then came here in that roster cut down period
Speaker 1: in twenty seventeen and the rest is history.
Speaker 2: And his playmaking has been definitely seen in camp. You know.
Speaker 2: He just kind of reminds her reminds herself every.
Speaker 1: Few days of like, oh, yeah, there he is still
Speaker 1: playing really good football. So thank you to Kenny Moore
Speaker 1: the second for.
Speaker 3: I didn't realize he had such a potty mouth Kevin.
Speaker 2: He did have a couple of cuss times.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I think three of.
Speaker 1: Them, I know, which I appreciate, Like it's you know,
Speaker 1: he kind of felt casual. Thing with Kenny is like
Speaker 1: he doesn't have a very consistent speaking cadence like some
Speaker 1: people you like know when they're done talking.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 2: With with with Kenny, I was like, wait, has he
Speaker 2: done or not? And then he just kept just keeps going.
Speaker 3: But you're very well thought out when he speaks.
Speaker 1: But I think he's turned into an important voice for
Speaker 1: the players, certainly for the franchise.
Speaker 2: So thank you to Kenny Moore.
Speaker 3: The second Kevin, with the start of the season aaring
Speaker 3: that means it's almost time for us to start planning
Speaker 3: for the fantasy football league. Right.
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, I didn't even think about this. Yes, yes, okay,
Speaker 1: should we talk about this.
Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, we'll talk about this off the air. But
Speaker 3: just wanted to tease that so our listeners know what's coming.
Speaker 1: I know, and we've rewarded like fast fingers oftentimes with spots.
Speaker 1: I'm open to any any suggestions, and you know, obviously
Speaker 1: we want to reward our listeners, and we love the
Speaker 1: fantasy league and we enjoy doing the draft. But maybe
Speaker 1: I don't know a little twist on that. We could
Speaker 1: think about that, and you know me, I mean, I
Speaker 1: think you and I speak on the same page of this.
Speaker 1: That first week of September is when we'll do the
Speaker 1: draft earlier. Way too much dram on the NFL can
Speaker 1: happen in a month. So yes, that is a good
Speaker 1: thing to put on the radar.
Speaker 3: And I can't wait, Kevin. I know we're already getting
Speaker 3: the two weeks of as you mentioned, the or on
Speaker 3: the starting quarterback. I can't wait for the national media all. Look,
Speaker 3: it's Daniel Jones with the ones. Do you say start
Speaker 3: against Baltimore? Do you think that matters like Thursday?
Speaker 2: Starter?
Speaker 5: No?
Speaker 3: I don't.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I am kind of with you, James Boyd, did
Speaker 1: I think he was on the opposite when him and
Speaker 1: I chatted about that this morning.
Speaker 3: Let me ask you, this, is it more telling on
Speaker 3: who gets the start in the joint practice tomorrow than
Speaker 3: it is the preseason game, because that'll be ones.
Speaker 1: The weird thing they've done with the starting reps so
Speaker 1: far in camp, whoever is the starter usually gets the
Speaker 1: least amount of reps that day with the starting unit,
Speaker 1: which is kind of you know, you'll typically think of
Speaker 1: it like that, but that's kind of how I want
Speaker 1: to say. I want to say yesterday Jones started, for example,
Speaker 1: and then Richardson got one more starting period than Jones did,
Speaker 1: or maybe that was Saturday. They all run to go
Speaker 1: to this point, but try to keep tracking the notebook settings.
Speaker 1: So now, I mean, I think at this point, like
Speaker 1: Kicker is a lead, like center Tanner borderline seems to
Speaker 1: have taken a little bit of a lead here last
Speaker 1: few days. Mm hmm, quarterback, I mean it has been
Speaker 1: a fifty to fifty split. I would think Richardson has
Speaker 1: a slight lead.
Speaker 3: But and obviously you've got Justin Wally opposite at you
Speaker 3: various word because of the injuries to Juju Brentson, Jalen Jay.
Speaker 1: Even before that, he was the guy and he certainly
Speaker 1: has been that so far.
Speaker 3: Are you ready for Twitter questions? Let's do it? Five
Speaker 3: questions to get too on today's edition of Colt Corner,
Speaker 3: starting with Josh the Colt should go after Terry McLaurin,
Speaker 3: right or do you think the price will be too
Speaker 3: much to pay? And this this is me asking this
Speaker 3: question keV in connection to this question from Josh. Would
Speaker 3: we be talking about Terry McLaurin if he wasn't a
Speaker 3: Cathedral High School graduate?
Speaker 1: I would like to think we wouldn't have our endi
Speaker 1: bias that high. I mean, he's been a very good
Speaker 1: player here in the NFL. You know a lot of McLaurin,
Speaker 1: a lot of Michael Parsons, and and I totally understand
Speaker 1: all all of those questions. But I would say this
Speaker 1: where I'm kind of at right now with those sorts
Speaker 1: of moves is when you don't have the long term
Speaker 1: answer a quarterback. As much as people want to play
Speaker 1: the video game, I think all of these sorts of
Speaker 1: ideas are frozen.
Speaker 3: Especially for Micah Parsons, because I mean, you saw what
Speaker 3: correct that after highlight compensation would be through the roof
Speaker 3: what Chicago got for Khalil Mack.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so the compensation for the two is different now,
Speaker 1: you know, for Terry McLaurin, I still think it would
Speaker 1: involve a notable draft pick.
Speaker 2: And that's what you have to play out in your head. Hey,
Speaker 2: we're going to trade whatever. Let's say a second.
Speaker 1: For yeah, Terry McLaurin, and let's say you go nine
Speaker 1: in eight is the football team.
Speaker 2: So now you're drafting eighteenth overall.
Speaker 1: If you're going nine and eight, you probably don't have
Speaker 1: a clear answer quarterback out and you don't have your
Speaker 1: second round pick.
Speaker 2: So what are you doing. You're just sitting there and.
Speaker 3: You got to pay him thirty million dollars a year
Speaker 3: because that's what he wants.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it just yeah, and so that means you're not
Speaker 1: drafted on in twenty twenty six and yeah, and you're
Speaker 1: also you know, obviously, like you said, paying him Terry
Speaker 1: McLaurin that that type of money at age. I just
Speaker 1: don't think you can entertain this stuff on the McLaurin front.
Speaker 1: I'm fascinated to see how the thirty year old wide
Speaker 1: out plays out because Michael Pittman Junior is going to
Speaker 1: be in a kind of a similar boat next year,
Speaker 1: with not as impressive as an individual resume as Terry McLaurin.
Speaker 2: This gets into the debate of, like I think a
Speaker 2: real debate.
Speaker 1: Fans need to start to pay attention to, is would
Speaker 1: you rather have Alec Pierce long term or Michael Pittman Jr.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Like, I think that is a very real conversation that
Speaker 1: you have to have. So Josh, I understand the question.
Speaker 1: He's a really good player. I also think the Colts
Speaker 1: this is the best they felt about their wide out
Speaker 1: group in years, and I get why they feel as
Speaker 1: good about it. Like I I kind of agree with him.
Speaker 1: Now do I think he would upgrade that position even more? Yeah,
Speaker 1: But I just think these sorts of moves, given the
Speaker 1: state of your franchise, you're largely frozen, you know. And
Speaker 1: it's like, I know the NBA in the NFL is
Speaker 1: the perfect analogy atdie, but it's like once the Pacers
Speaker 1: got Halliburton, then when the ideal of Siakam becomes available, you.
Speaker 2: Can do that.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, but until you get Halliburton, I don't think
Speaker 1: you can give up three first for Pascal Siaka. No,
Speaker 1: but what you know, so it's like, once you get
Speaker 1: that in place, then I think you can go ahead
Speaker 1: and entertain some of this thought and move more of
Speaker 1: the chips into the middle. But until you have quarterback,
Speaker 1: you just and I know next year's a great draft
Speaker 1: class for quarterback and all of.
Speaker 3: That, but.
Speaker 1: You know, again, just look at Buffalo with the Allen draft.
Speaker 1: They went from twenty one to twelve. Then they went
Speaker 1: from twelve to seven. Like, you have to be in
Speaker 1: a position to do that if you need to, and
Speaker 1: they felt the need to do that, and obviously they're
Speaker 1: reaping the benefits of it.
Speaker 3: Tyler and Terry loop together, what is the likelihood that
Speaker 3: Alec Peerce is in a Colts uniform next year? I
Speaker 3: get the vibe he will command a pretty significant contract
Speaker 3: on the open market, and just don't know if the
Speaker 3: Colts can afford to keep him, especially with Josh Downs's
Speaker 3: contract coming up in a few years as well. Perhaps
Speaker 3: they're waiting to see if ad Mitchell can show more
Speaker 3: consistency before making any decisions. Also for US golf fans
Speaker 3: out there, and I hope this is tongue in cheek
Speaker 3: for whomever included this which one of you, it's Tyler Terry,
Speaker 3: especially Eddie. What's in Kevin's golf bag for the twenty
Speaker 3: twenty five season. Thanks as always for the top tier content.
Speaker 2: Let's go. This is great. This is the seven of
Speaker 2: my burner.
Speaker 1: Actually, we love love to have the Mizuno clubs in
Speaker 1: the golf bag.
Speaker 5: Here.
Speaker 1: We got a golf outing coming up on Thursday, Eddie.
Speaker 1: That's right down at the Legends. See some listeners out
Speaker 1: there for that. Now those are new clubs, right, the Massunos. Yes,
Speaker 1: second year with them, he says, yes, love them, love them,
Speaker 1: so thank you. I believe Maszuna is going to be
Speaker 1: at the golf outing coming up. Wow, look at that
Speaker 1: on Thursday as well. So looking forward to that down
Speaker 1: there at the Legends in Franklin. Bob Knight old stomping grounds.
Speaker 2: With his course.
Speaker 1: You know, likelihood of pierced in a colt's uniform, boy,
Speaker 1: I think it's a great debate. And again this is
Speaker 1: a question I actually threw Rick Van Turrey's way. We
Speaker 1: had Rick Van Turrey culture radio analysts on our show
Speaker 1: last week and he spoke from a defensive coordinator standpoint,
Speaker 1: and he goes, when I think about the future of Pierce.
Speaker 1: When I think about the future of Pittman, I met
Speaker 1: with who do I fear more? And the answer to
Speaker 1: that's peers. What's easier to find Eddie? Is it easier
Speaker 1: to find elite deep ball play making receivers or is
Speaker 1: it easier to find guys that hit a lot of singles?
Speaker 3: Guys that hit a lot of singles.
Speaker 1: Unfortunately, there's no way to say that without it sounded
Speaker 1: like a shot at Pittman. And I've probably always been
Speaker 1: a little bit more of a Pittman guy than most.
Speaker 1: And I thought last year he had a fine season
Speaker 1: with the back, you know, I mean he played through
Speaker 1: a ton and still was a little healthier. He probably
Speaker 1: would have been over a thousand yards.
Speaker 2: So you know, the thing about Adie Mitchell is he's
Speaker 2: not really either of them.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 1: It would be one thing of like, you know, Anthony
Speaker 1: Gould's had a great Chandy Crane camp so far, be
Speaker 1: one thing of like you're like, oh, yeah, Anthony Gould,
Speaker 1: he's the actual slot, just like Josh Towns. But like,
Speaker 1: Mitchell's not really Piercing, He's not really Pittman. No, it's
Speaker 1: just kind of hard to look at the wide receiver
Speaker 1: position and say, well, yeah, I guess theoretically one of
Speaker 1: those two will go, and then you know Mitchell will
Speaker 1: slide in that role. But again it's not exactly the
Speaker 1: like minded player. But still, having said that, I think
Speaker 1: there's part of me that definitely leans towards Peers, and
Speaker 1: Pittman stands for so much of what you what you
Speaker 1: want to be about, with this toughness and all of that.
Speaker 1: But if Pierce can take another step, you know, the
Speaker 1: underneath stuff, He's also going to command a whole lot
Speaker 1: on the open market. I think interest wise, franchise tag
Speaker 1: could be used.
Speaker 3: Do you think so?
Speaker 1: Franchise tag it up? You tell Pittman to play in
Speaker 1: a contract year and see what happens. Again, that's how
Speaker 1: you know, Pittman's kind of viewed this year as a
Speaker 1: contract year for him. He said that when he signed
Speaker 1: the extension. You know, the reason why he signed three
Speaker 1: year extension was to get to that open market one
Speaker 1: more time, like Terry McLaurin is. And we're seeing how
Speaker 1: it's all playing out there. So it's a great question.
Speaker 1: Obviously this year we'll have some impact on it, certainly,
Speaker 1: but you know, Pierce's ability to hit those home runs.
Speaker 1: It's just a rare gift. You watch Pierce, and I
Speaker 1: mean anytime they chuck a deep ball to him in camp,
Speaker 1: like boy, he is just his ability to locate.
Speaker 2: The ball thirty yards down the field is such a
Speaker 2: unique trade.
Speaker 3: So this season, the non exclusive franchise tag was twenty
Speaker 3: five million, six and ninety three thousand dollars.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean he's getting north of twenty.
Speaker 3: Well, and it's gonna go up because because you've got
Speaker 3: Jamar Chase getting paid.
Speaker 1: I know it sounds like a ludicrous thought too, but
Speaker 1: just try to push that down a little bit further
Speaker 1: down the line and then maybe you say, well, that's
Speaker 1: dupi because you know then you're gonna have to pay
Speaker 1: him even more when or if and when you do,
Speaker 1: you know, cross that bridge. So it's a very interesting
Speaker 1: state of the wide receiver position, but I think it's
Speaker 1: also a good position in the Colts haven't been that
Speaker 1: in a while.
Speaker 3: Three questions left, Josh is up next. Any chance mo
Speaker 3: Ali Cox doesn't make the fifty three man roster, doesn't
Speaker 3: seem like his contract would be a massive hit if
Speaker 3: the Colts cut him, and Josh would rather hang on
Speaker 3: to more corner depth. With Will Mallory starting to flash,
Speaker 3: I feel like this.
Speaker 1: Is an annual question, Eddie, Like we've had this for
Speaker 1: like five straight off seasons. Will mo Aley Cox make
Speaker 1: the team? To me, tight end looks pretty easy right now?
Speaker 1: Don't you just keep four?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 3: It seems like pretty easy compared to some of the
Speaker 3: other position groups.
Speaker 2: Tyler Warren, Moliley Cox, dru Ogle Tree, Will Mallory. I mean,
Speaker 2: Mallory would also tell you this. I don't know he'll
Speaker 2: be as blunt as I am, but blocking's an issue.
Speaker 2: Melalle Cox is not a bad blocker.
Speaker 1: No, So every team has a Moliley Cox, I guess
Speaker 1: is what I'm trying to get out too, Like every
Speaker 1: team has a due that just doesn't catch the blocks.
Speaker 1: And if all the injuries happened, he'd go play left tackle,
Speaker 1: like he would be the third.
Speaker 2: Tackle on a game or like the fifth tackle, I.
Speaker 1: Should say on a game day. So you know, I
Speaker 1: understand we get into this debate a lot. I guess
Speaker 1: the thought is to keep three or four tight ends.
Speaker 1: I mean, they've always kind of been a four tight
Speaker 1: end team, so I assume they will. And that's why
Speaker 1: it gets back to Jelanny Woods, saying, I just I'm
Speaker 1: hard pressed to find where Jelani Woods fits into the puzzle.
Speaker 3: Trevor is next, how would you feel, Kevin if the
Speaker 3: Colts opted to not play any of it of their
Speaker 3: starters at all during preseason to prevent injuries. Trevor says,
Speaker 3: I know Sean McVeigh is known to not play his
Speaker 3: starters at all.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Trevor, I mean, obviously, injuries are injuries. And you
Speaker 1: know I've watched Sampson, ebcom Rip and Achilles during practice.
Speaker 1: You know, I mean, I get the contact. You probably
Speaker 1: lead to more injuries.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: Eddie would be hard pressed to remember the last time
Speaker 1: that Colts had a starter get hurt in a preseason game.
Speaker 1: I mean, I can't think of many. And you bring
Speaker 1: up Sean McVay. I brought up Baltimore earlier. Every team
Speaker 1: is different. Matthew Stafford's been slinging that a whole long time.
Speaker 3: Uh huh.
Speaker 2: That's different than nanthy Richardson or Daniel Jones.
Speaker 3: By the way, he hasn't practiced yet.
Speaker 1: Correct, Yeah, that back injury. They I think Cole's playing
Speaker 1: like Week four maybe something like that.
Speaker 2: I think they have Houston Week one too.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 1: By the way, Miami looks so banged up already for
Speaker 1: Week one. I saw Austin Jackson, the right tackle is
Speaker 1: gonna miss a lot of times.
Speaker 3: They've already had two corners go down.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the dB room definitely. Jalen Phillips got banged up.
Speaker 2: So we're all afraid of injuries. I get it.
Speaker 3: He's coming off an ACL or against the.
Speaker 2: Cold last year, so I understand it.
Speaker 1: But man, when you've had the Week one struggles, when
Speaker 1: you're incorporating a new defense, when you've had the quarterback
Speaker 1: play that you've had, I just think you need to
Speaker 1: be out there. And I don't care if they're playing
Speaker 1: their starters or not. Like That's that's how I view it.
Speaker 1: And I think if I were to rank the schedule
Speaker 1: right now, outside of the Houston games, I think the
Speaker 1: two most important games are right there in Miami and Denver.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I put those three and four in the list.
Speaker 1: So I am a proponent of playing your starters more
Speaker 1: in the preseason generally than most, especially for this state
Speaker 1: of the Colts. You're not a team, I mean, you're
Speaker 1: involving a new defensive coordinator, You're involving a new quarterback
Speaker 1: if you want to call them, Daniel Jones, whatever you
Speaker 1: want to call Richardson, that's new. I think you could
Speaker 1: make a strong case that the Colts should play their
Speaker 1: starters more than any team in the league in the
Speaker 1: preseason based off all that newness. Do you run the
Speaker 1: risk for some injury?
Speaker 2: Sure?
Speaker 1: I guess you do. Now you play Thursday night, that's
Speaker 1: an out from the regular season opener. Yeah, so a
Speaker 1: guy getting hurt, you know, if it's ankle, whatever, you know,
Speaker 1: two weeks boom, he can be back. Even that final
Speaker 1: preseason you're still I think two weeks in a day
Speaker 1: out Cincinnati game from the opener. But this might be
Speaker 1: week one PTSD, but yeah, I'd be uh, I'd be playing.
Speaker 3: We conclude Twitter questions with Will Kevin. You have to
Speaker 3: pick one. Who do you want to start for the
Speaker 3: Colts under center? Not who you think will start as
Speaker 3: a fan, who do you want? Will is sitting here
Speaker 3: after watching all the inconsistencies, all the bs that has
Speaker 3: come with Anthony Richardson, and yet Will is so fired
Speaker 3: up to see him take snaps in a game setting
Speaker 3: versus Daniel Jones. Screw the floor being higher than Daniel Jones.
Speaker 3: Will wants the chance at the higher ceiling.
Speaker 1: Will thank you for the question. Then, I think I
Speaker 1: shared this before Eddie. A few weeks ago on our
Speaker 1: morning show, we did a Twitter poll who do you want?
Speaker 1: Because we had someone in our YouTube chat say they
Speaker 1: want Daniel Jones to start. I was like, hm, that's interesting.
Speaker 1: I wonder what that pool of fans looks like. And
Speaker 1: I want to say the poll ended at like eighty
Speaker 1: five percent one of Jones fifteen or excuse me, eighty
Speaker 1: five percent one of Richardson fifteen percent one to Jones.
Speaker 2: You were out there Saturday. I can't recall Saturday. It
Speaker 2: was one of those days.
Speaker 1: But in many days of practice, when Richardson has taken
Speaker 1: the starting reps, the crowd is just much much louder
Speaker 1: yes than they are when it's time for Jones to
Speaker 1: take those starting reps.
Speaker 2: So, you know, Will points to.
Speaker 1: The high ceiling, and that is a huge part of
Speaker 1: I think why I would agree with Will on that.
Speaker 1: But even if you aren't there, I say, it gets
Speaker 1: you one step closer to the final answer on him.
Speaker 1: So either you finally break up with them or you don't.
Speaker 1: You know, finally move on or commit. And I also
Speaker 1: am curious what did the healthy offseason do again? Nine
Speaker 1: days into camp? To go back to the eye doctor analogy,
Speaker 1: I guarantee you if you splice together clips from his
Speaker 1: first nine practices in twenty twenty three, twenty twenty four,
Speaker 1: and now twenty twenty five, if doctor Deborah Man said
Speaker 1: to me, Kevin read that for me with one spoon
Speaker 1: over the left eye, apso would read the clearest in
Speaker 1: twenty twenty five.
Speaker 3: That's actually one of your ritter one, thanks job, thank you.
Speaker 1: Hey, I really haven't had a lot of good ones,
Speaker 1: so that felt good.
Speaker 2: Yeah, did the healthy offseason do anything?
Speaker 1: So all three of those boxes, yes, the high ceiling
Speaker 1: sure boom, get closer to the final answer, and then lastly,
Speaker 1: did the health healthy offseason do anything? Now, having said
Speaker 1: all that, I will continue to beat this drum. I
Speaker 1: think Shane Stikeen is much more willing to play Daniel
Speaker 1: Jones than most people think or want to admit.
Speaker 3: That's time to win, gott to see some results.
Speaker 1: And I'm over here shrug my shoulders like I hear
Speaker 1: you say that, and I'm like, wow, it's hard to
Speaker 1: totally argue against that.
Speaker 2: I mean tier three for him. New ownership now again,
Speaker 2: is the best way to win? When you say win,
Speaker 2: you know I'm saying it in.
Speaker 1: All Caps, win a division title, win a playoff game,
Speaker 1: and to me, you need the higher potential quarterback. To me, like,
Speaker 1: I know, yards per temp is in everything, but the
Speaker 1: yards pertempt numbers, you know it can oftentimes be a
Speaker 1: key metric.
Speaker 2: I mean it's pretty drastic. How much better Richardson is
Speaker 2: yards per attempt than Jones?
Speaker 3: Yep?
Speaker 1: So can you win with thinking dump? Can you win
Speaker 1: with conservative? I find it ironic, Eddie. We sit here
Speaker 1: nine days into camp. Those one true deep ball Daniel
Speaker 1: Jones's throne came out on off side penalty Thursday night
Speaker 1: when everyone's yelling free play and he chucks it down
Speaker 1: the field and there's ad Mitchell and it's not like
Speaker 1: his arm shot. It's like you can't throw it down
Speaker 1: the field. So yes, well I am in the camp
Speaker 1: of Richardson should be the start. But again that's my opinion.
Speaker 1: I all, you know, I have to look at things
Speaker 1: through two different lens, my thoughts, but also how I
Speaker 1: think the Colts are viewing it, and I just think
Speaker 1: it's a lot realer.
Speaker 2: By the way, questions tenses.
Speaker 3: So Will says under center, like are we gonna I mean,
Speaker 3: hardly anyone goes under center anymore. It feels like they're
Speaker 3: always out of the gun, Like, are we ever gonna
Speaker 3: get a changing of the terminology there?
Speaker 2: Yeah, that is a good question. Yeah. I don't know
Speaker 2: how it's gonna.
Speaker 1: Operate, but yeah, I guess now it's all right, you know,
Speaker 1: three step, five step drop here, and sooner or later
Speaker 1: it's probably gonna.
Speaker 2: Look a whole lot more like seven on seven. All right,
Speaker 2: he's at a garrison. I'm Kevin Bowen.
Speaker 1: Thank you for listening to Colt's Corner with myself and Eddie,
Speaker 1: and we will be back, oh maybe Friday morning.
Speaker 3: So we got yeah, Colts, I have joint practice with
Speaker 3: Baltimore on Tuesday, and then they play Thursday night, and
Speaker 3: then practice Saturday and Sunday.
Speaker 2: Should we do a little ten am on Friday morning?
Speaker 3: Probably? Should.
Speaker 2: He's at a garrison on Kevin Bowen, everybody have a
Speaker 2: eight great week. We'll talk to you later.