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Speaker 1: You're listening to the Best of the Fan morning show

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Speaker 1: on ninety three five and one oh seven five the Fan.

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Speaker 1: Good Tuesday morning. Everybody in a good mood if you

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Speaker 1: like Indiana football, whether it's the Hoosiers or the Indianapolis Colts.

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Speaker 1: And you got the Indiana fever and basketball playing playoffs tonight.

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Speaker 1: So a lot of folks around here in good sports moods.

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Speaker 1: John has been very excited lately, I guess is the

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Speaker 1: way to say that, Mark Dyketon. He's enjoyed sports the

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Speaker 1: last couple of days, no question about that. Good for him.

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Speaker 1: We were talking about the Colts just a moment ago

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Speaker 1: and they are three and ozero and they are now

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Speaker 1: headed out on the road to take on the Los

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Speaker 1: Angeles Rams. Kevin Bowen some injury concerns though, coming out

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Speaker 1: of that game, specifically in the secondary right now.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So Alex Pierce in concussion protocol, so we'll see

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Speaker 2: how he progresses through that. I want to say it's

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Speaker 2: his third concussions, is third in four years in his career.

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Speaker 2: I don't believe he's missed multiple weeks ever with him,

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Speaker 2: but still three concussions and just over three years is

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Speaker 2: certainly a number to take note of. And Kenny Moore

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Speaker 2: it sounds like he is going to miss some time.

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Speaker 2: Will await official ward on that. Will wait official ward

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Speaker 2: on Mike Hilton signing, James, I think you reported yesterday.

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Speaker 2: Is the expectation this will be signed to the practice squad.

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Speaker 3: Yes, start off with the practice squad, which is usually

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Speaker 3: pretty standard for deals at this time of the year.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, veteran corner. For those kind of unfamiliar with his

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Speaker 2: background with lou An Aruma the last four years and

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Speaker 2: then Pittsburgh the previous four You know, I can remember

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Speaker 2: back at leu Anroumo. I think it was his introductory

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Speaker 2: press conference he actually made the comparison of Mike Hilton

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Speaker 2: to Kenny Moore the second ironically enough, in terms of

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Speaker 2: their roles as kind of a nickel corner. Hilton is

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Speaker 2: older thirty one years old. He was cut by the

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Speaker 2: Dolphins just before the start of this season. And you know,

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Speaker 2: for those confused by the practice squad addition, you are

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Speaker 2: allowed three practice squad call ups. Each player is allowed

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Speaker 2: three practice squad call ups throughout a seventeen game season.

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Speaker 2: So for example, if Kenny Moore is going to let's

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Speaker 2: say two games, you could simply call up Mike Hilton

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Speaker 2: from the practice squad each of the next two weeks,

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Speaker 2: and then when Kenny returns, then you decide on what

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Speaker 2: you want to do with my kiltonicleeb on the practice squad,

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Speaker 2: cut him or bring him to the fifty three man roster.

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Speaker 2: But nonetheless, I think Kenny Moore is one of the

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Speaker 2: most indispensable cult players. I think at times we don't

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Speaker 2: give him enough credit for what he means to the

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Speaker 2: football team. And for example, I thought the first third

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Speaker 2: down on Sunday was one of those plays where sure

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Speaker 2: Cam Woard makes a horrible decision, but Kenny Moore is

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Speaker 2: right there ready to make the catch. You know, some

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Speaker 2: Nichols might say, hey, it's third and nine, let me

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Speaker 2: back off a little bit, let me just make the

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Speaker 2: sure tackle. Whereas Kenny, and he's done this before the

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Speaker 2: rookie quarterbacks, He's like, no, no, no, I can sense

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Speaker 2: something here, and he makes that basket catch and takes

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Speaker 2: it back for a pick six. So life without Kenny

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Speaker 2: Moore for any amount of time, I think is notable.

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Speaker 2: And we'll see if he or how long he's going

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Speaker 2: to be out here with that calf injury.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I want to go back to Alec Pierce too. You

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Speaker 1: talk about having three concussions now, and even though he's

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Speaker 1: never really missed significant time with those, those starts to

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Speaker 1: worry because those things start to add up, and they

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Speaker 1: get them as well, James Boyd and I think all

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Speaker 1: the the research on all that is still continuing to

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Speaker 1: more concussions you get, that can't be good news.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but I'm also not a doctor, and so we

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Speaker 3: were asking Shane's talking about that. He said, well, leave

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Speaker 3: it up to the medical staff, and obviously we'll take

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Speaker 3: to all of that stuff very seriously. So that's pretty

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Speaker 3: much where I'm at. I do know that every concussion

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Speaker 2: Again, Mooney Ward, Fine for those curious about that. That's

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Speaker 2: what Shane Sykin said yesterday. But you know, one thing

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Speaker 2: to note on Pierce and Kenny. I find both those

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Speaker 2: I think it'd be discrediting either player to act like

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Speaker 2: the same light as Alan Pierce. I think Adie Mitchell's

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Speaker 2: got a skill set that clearly the Colts like. But

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Speaker 2: still what Pierce does down the field, and I know

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Speaker 2: Mitchell drew a big pass interferencepally on Sunday. Pierce is

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Speaker 2: best in the entire league. Added, So you know, if

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Speaker 2: I had a guess, that would be my assumption. The

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Speaker 2: last year and Pierce missed a game, Adie Mitchell played

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Speaker 2: a ton of snaps. So here's your chance to get

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Speaker 2: closer to eighty catches, Jeff.

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Speaker 1: Let's go, I need only up seventy six to go

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Speaker 1: seventy so to get there, yeah, I don't have we

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Speaker 2: I don't have that number in them. And the Masters

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Speaker 1: It checking the text line though. Adam Kaye wants to

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Speaker 1: know what about Mooney Ward? Where's he?

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Speaker 5: A right?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I just said he is, He's good. He came back. James.

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Speaker 2: I want to say he played probably handful of snaps

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Speaker 3: The game too well. I know always is an indicator

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Speaker 3: because he spoke after the first game. We had a concussion,

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Speaker 2: Then they emptied the bench with a lot of those

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Speaker 2: to end that one on Sunday. But again, I think

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Speaker 2: the Kenny Moore injury is a big deal. I was

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Speaker 2: looking at it yesterday. He's missed eight games over the

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Speaker 2: last three years, and the Colts have allowed thirty three

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Speaker 2: points per game when Kenny Moore has not been in

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Speaker 2: So we'll see exactly how long he's going to be

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Speaker 1: I think you guys feeling about the pass rush after

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Speaker 1: three games. I guess if there's one place a lot

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Speaker 1: need to pick it up, it's getting pressure on the quarterback.

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Speaker 1: They did get to Cambwarod a couple of times this

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Speaker 1: how worried should fans be about this ability to put

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Speaker 3: Scale of one to ten, I mean, I put it

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Speaker 2: Is a four or you are evaluating them as a force.

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Speaker 3: Evaluating him as a four out of ten to be clear.

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Speaker 3: So yeah, I I've not been impressed, quite frankly, with

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Speaker 3: And again, you're supposed to be a game wrecker, and

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Speaker 3: I get that he's dealing with something, and he might

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Speaker 3: just haven't really seen that from him. I believe the

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Speaker 3: four sacks last week it was two from Taekwan, one

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Speaker 3: but those aren't the guys that you necessarily. Well, quits

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I would agree. I think that is and I

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Speaker 2: think it's a huge storyline for Sunday. You know, when

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Speaker 2: particularly to Kenny Moore, I think you're going to commit

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Speaker 2: So I think that's a definite storyline. I know we

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Speaker 2: like to see again. To go back to what Loui

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Speaker 2: an Rumo said after Week one, the Colts sometimes opt

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Speaker 2: Sunday was one of those where they went with the

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Speaker 3: Among the start is probably when you think.

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Speaker 2: About it, almost everybody's been in the league for at

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Speaker 2: least four years and their corner group is continuing to

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Speaker 2: be old. You know, even if you substitute Mike Hilton

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Speaker 2: then for Kenny Moore, you're actually getting older at corner.

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Speaker 2: With that. So when you look across the defensive line,

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Speaker 2: the Colts have to have one of the older defenses

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Speaker 2: we're seeing here with Tumlowell.

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Speaker 1: One of the reasons I bring that up. It was

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Speaker 1: Saint Brown and Laporta and everybody else in golf is

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Speaker 1: making it work. But they were getting after Lamar Jackson

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Speaker 1: seven sacks last night, and I know he only had one,

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Speaker 1: but James continuing. Every time I look down at that screen,

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Speaker 1: I saw Aiden Hutchinson just blowing somebody up on his

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Speaker 1: Like that's the kind of disruptor you're talking about right there.

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Speaker 1: And I know not everybody is hut Jinson, but you

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, you might not be getting, you know,

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Speaker 3: probably Sagwon Barkley because they were right there together and

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Speaker 1: And I think that's probably what the thought process was

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Speaker 2: It's gonna be met there. And you know, Michael Pittman

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Speaker 2: No, my hand is fully raised right there with you, Jeff.

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Speaker 1: Might crumble scrambled that he had the seventeen yard scramble.

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Speaker 2: I can't even recall too many of plays like that.

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Speaker 1: Been a lot of fun to watch so far. The

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Speaker 1: Colts are three, and oh they'll get another shot on

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Speaker 1: the road this Sunday against the Los Angeles Rams, and

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Speaker 1: we'll be talking about that throughout the morning. In fact,

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Speaker 1: coming up in a few minutes, we're going to talk

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Speaker 1: to Joel a ericson get his take on the first

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Speaker 1: three weeks and how the cults are just clipping right

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Speaker 1: along now and you're even starting to see all over

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Speaker 1: national people are like, oh, the surprising Coults. Maybe they

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Speaker 1: really are good. Not quite there. I've seen a lot

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Speaker 1: of not quite there yet, but I think they might

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Speaker 1: be for real. So we'll see what Joel A. Rickson

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Speaker 1: has to say about that coming up in a moment.

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Speaker 1: A little bit later on today, we'll be talking fever

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Speaker 1: with Tony East. That'll come your way at nine o'clock.

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Speaker 1: So a lot of football and playoff basketball in the

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Speaker 1: w NBA straight ahead on the Fan Morning Show, and

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Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to talking to all these folks as

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Speaker 1: we continue in ninety three five and one oh seven

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Speaker 1: five previously a Fan Morning show.

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Speaker 3: I was looking at I want to say, Joey Erickson

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Speaker 3: had a nice glass or whatever you call it, jug

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Speaker 3: of beer and I was looking.

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Speaker 1: And jug them beer.

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Speaker 8: I know.

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Speaker 1: I told the story was a little.

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Speaker 2: Off the rails.

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Speaker 3: Yes, I tell you out. It's a big I don't

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Speaker 3: know what you call it. They said a pint or

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Speaker 3: a pillar, and I was like, I never heard of

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Speaker 3: a pillar. I was, you know, somebody, you know I

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Speaker 3: don't drink real talk. This man had to tell me

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Speaker 3: that rose was wine because I didn't know the conversation before. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 3: so that's how naive I am. But yeah, I was

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Speaker 3: thinking about it, Mark for a little bit. I was

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Speaker 3: thinking there was ever a time to just get wasted.

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Speaker 1: Jimmy, I'm not sure if that's just flat out raw

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Speaker 1: respect for Joel Erickson or confusion or what that is

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Speaker 1: right there.

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Speaker 3: So we have joy ericson from Adye Star on the line. Joel,

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Speaker 3: I just want to say, I apologize. I don't know

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Speaker 3: my alcohol lingos, so when I said a jug, it

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Speaker 3: was not meant to be derogatory or judg mental. I

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Speaker 3: just saw you with a large glass of beer. You're

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Speaker 3: having a good time. I'm sorry.

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Speaker 6: Yeah. In James defense, they didn't say pinter pillar Normally,

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Speaker 6: normally they wouldn't say pillar. I mean it was it was.

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Speaker 6: It was the bigger glass. You get that when you

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Speaker 6: go to a sports bar because you know you might

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Speaker 6: not get the waitress back soon, and you might and

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Speaker 6: you might want a second one.

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Speaker 1: Sounds like experience there, Joel.

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Speaker 2: He trained a growler in front of Joel and like, no, no,

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Speaker 2: I'm not taking this home. I'm drinking all this right here.

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Speaker 2: Joel's joining the show.

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Speaker 1: Thing.

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Speaker 8: It's an interview. It's actually an intervention, Joel, right, just

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Speaker 8: sit down for a second last thing on the drinks. No,

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Speaker 8: we did see this, and me and Joel on our

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Speaker 8: tire table were disgusted. I've never seen this before, but

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Speaker 8: they had like this. We saw one tingle with this

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Speaker 8: fish bowl of like alcohol and they all had the

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Speaker 8: four straws going to the same thing. I was like,

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Speaker 8: is this where like you know, diesseases start or something.

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Speaker 3: It was disgusting.

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Speaker 1: So, Joel, you were not that ricohol? Was he was terrifying?

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Speaker 3: No, that was that was disgusting.

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Speaker 2: But Joel, how was James Boyd acting as his a

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Speaker 2: LINEI or getting curb stomped by the Hoosier Sun Saturday nights?

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Speaker 2: Was he caring or was he deciding how he could

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Speaker 2: run his mouth even more?

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Speaker 6: What?

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Speaker 2: What were his emotion.

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Speaker 1: Looking for a straw?

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Speaker 6: Uh? He was, uh, he was. He was going, you

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Speaker 6: know what, this is gonna this is gonna hurt next week.

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Speaker 4: Hurt a little bit. I got there.

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Speaker 6: I got there, the game had already started and there

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Speaker 6: was still a little bit of hope then, but that

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Speaker 6: quickly kind of went away and h you could tell

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Speaker 6: that Jason's like, oh man, I'm gonna to pay some

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Speaker 6: have to pay some bills here.

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Speaker 1: I didn't want to pay these bills.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that was rough.

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Speaker 1: That was rough.

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Speaker 5: Joe.

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Speaker 3: Uh, I'm not gonna lie, you know me. I like

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Speaker 3: talking about trash. But brother. I mean eating someone's crowing

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Speaker 3: humble pie, worst diet ever. All of it sucks.

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Speaker 4: Man.

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Speaker 6: That's the whole thing. If you talk, if you talk trash,

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Speaker 6: you gotta know they're gonna come back. You gotta know

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Speaker 6: they're gonna come back and say something later.

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Speaker 2: That's the problem.

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Speaker 6: Uh.

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Speaker 1: Joy Erickson on the Payless Liquors Hotline covers the Colts

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Speaker 1: for The Indie Star and I guess question on everybody's

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Speaker 1: minds three weeks in three and oh, Daniel Jones playing well,

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Speaker 1: not turning the ball over? How for real is this?

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Speaker 1: Can this sustain? What's going on here? What's your thought?

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Speaker 6: The biggest thing that I think is that sticks out

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Speaker 6: to me about why Daniel Jones is playing this well

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Speaker 6: is just that, you know, you talk about quarterbacks fighting

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Speaker 6: the right coaches for them, coaches fighting the right quarterbacks

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Speaker 6: for them. It feels like what we know about Daniel

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Speaker 6: Jones is that he's the right quarterback for Shane and

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Speaker 6: steike In because he's gonna do all of the stuff

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Speaker 6: that Psikein can do. Stikeen is a guy who he'll

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Speaker 6: he'll find answers for everything in defense is going to

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Speaker 6: do against him, and it might be a lot of answers,

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Speaker 6: because defenses these days in the NFL are pretty complex.

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Speaker 6: But he'll find an answer for all of it. He

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Speaker 6: just needs a quarterback who can go through all that

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Speaker 6: and make those and figure out exactly what Shane would

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Speaker 6: be thinking and go with that, and so far Jones

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Speaker 6: is doing it. I mean, I think the thing. The

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Speaker 6: other thing that sticks out to me about whether or

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Speaker 6: not it's sustainable is that some of these attacks that

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Speaker 6: they've gone up against sort of profile as a sort

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Speaker 6: of thing you would think would expose a quarterback because

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Speaker 6: they're not static. They're they're these constantly shifting systems, and

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Speaker 6: Jones has played really well against him. I mean, He's

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Speaker 6: not gonna play like this in every game this year.

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Speaker 6: Nobody does. But it does feel like like we should

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Speaker 6: raise our expectations for what Daniel Jones can be with

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Speaker 6: the Colts.

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Speaker 2: Joey Erickson from The Star with the Serier Paylost Flickers, Hotline,

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Speaker 2: Colts and Rams Week four Colts right now right around

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Speaker 2: three or four point underdog in this one, speaking specifically

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Speaker 2: to Sunday Joel, would Alec Pierce or Kenny Moore be

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Speaker 2: the bigger loss?

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Speaker 6: I think it's probably Kiddymore and I say that, I

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Speaker 6: say that with the knowledge that Alec Pierce at times

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Speaker 6: on Sunday looked like he was the outlet Daniel Jones

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Speaker 6: was looking for when he had a little bit of

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Speaker 6: pressure and wanted to get the ball down the field.

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Speaker 6: He's done more than be the deep threat. I think

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Speaker 6: Pierce is very very important. I think that's a big

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Speaker 6: role for Ady Mitchell, the phil I just think that

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Speaker 6: going up against the Rams, Poka Nakua, Matt Stafford, they're

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Speaker 6: gonna shift to Koua into the slot a lot. They're

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Speaker 6: gonna work him out of that, and losing more puts

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Speaker 6: you in a spot where you're you're kind of wondering

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Speaker 6: what she got a little bit. We've seen Kyle Blackman play,

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Speaker 6: but we've seen him play mostly on the outside. He'll

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Speaker 6: have to play on the inside some unless they elevate

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Speaker 6: Mike Hilton. Mike Hilton hasn't played this year, so I

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Speaker 6: would expect it to be black men, and then that

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Speaker 6: means that you're gonna put more presser on just kind

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Speaker 6: of everybody. I think again, Stafford, Nakua, that's that's probably

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Speaker 6: the bigger deal.

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Speaker 1: I gotta Joel a Erics and Indy Starr here about

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Speaker 1: the Colts as they are one of the few undefeated

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Speaker 1: teams in the National Football League. When you look at Luannaaruma,

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Speaker 1: what he's been able to bring in and Kevin was

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Speaker 1: talking about all the veteran players that are in that

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Speaker 1: system right now without the threat of a true like

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Speaker 1: game wrecker on the defensive line, how's this defense doing?

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Speaker 1: What is doing right now? Is a quality of opponent?

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Speaker 1: Is it a little bit of everything? What do you see?

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Speaker 6: I think it's a little bit of quality of opponent

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Speaker 6: so far. I want to see this defense kind of

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Speaker 6: go up against you know, this week. It'll be a

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Speaker 6: good indicator. You kind of have to maybe wait till

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Speaker 6: the Chargers to feel like you have another good indicator,

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Speaker 6: because I don't know if I really believe in the

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Speaker 6: Raiders or Cardinals offenses. I still have questions about this

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Speaker 6: defense's pass rush and whether it can be consistent enough

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Speaker 6: against good teams. That was a pretty pretty bad Titans

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Speaker 6: offensive line that they faced on Sunday, and I know

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Speaker 6: they got four sacks, but it just wasn't sort of

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Speaker 6: the dominant performance that you'd hope for against a line

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Speaker 6: like that. I think that this defense is, especially the

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Speaker 6: defensive line the pass rushes. Is really my biggest question

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Speaker 6: about this team at this point in the season.

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Speaker 3: Joel is Jon Taylor the best running back in the

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Speaker 3: league right now?

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Speaker 6: It's tough to say that when Barkley is coming off

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Speaker 6: of a two thousand yard season, but I do think

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Speaker 6: that Taylor has probably been in that Barkley Henry conversation

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Speaker 6: the entire time, and people just kind of forgot because

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Speaker 6: of the Colts, because because the Colts worked good, because

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Speaker 6: he dropped the ball at the goal line in Denver

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Speaker 6: last year. When he's healthy, he's very, very, very productive.

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Speaker 6: I mean, you get to the end of your fifty

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Speaker 6: year in the NFL and you have over six thousand yards.

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Speaker 6: This is what Taylor had. He's always been productive. I

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Speaker 6: think it's just he kind of got pulled down by

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Speaker 6: where his team was. But the stuff we saw the

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Speaker 6: other day, he's been doing that for a long time.

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Speaker 3: And so so biggyback off of that. Why do you

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Speaker 3: think there's been such a big jump in the pass

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Speaker 3: protection from him? Because we know that that has not

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Speaker 3: always been a strong suit in his game. But he

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Speaker 3: feels more complete this year than he has in previous years. Well,

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Speaker 3: I'm not you know, tell me if I'm wrong, But

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Speaker 3: that's what it feels like to me.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I agree. I think he's I think he's playing

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Speaker 6: pretty well in pressed path protection. It has been a weakness.

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Speaker 6: I thought it was interesting when we asked him about

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Speaker 6: this a couple of weeks ago that he said, you know,

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Speaker 6: the communication has really been there. I wonder if he

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Speaker 6: just feels like he's got more certainty in what he's

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Speaker 6: looking for or or where he's going, and that's that's helped.

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Speaker 6: It's it's tough with JT. He doesn't no always let

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Speaker 6: us in on on what he's thinking about his protection stuff.

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Speaker 6: But I did single that out. As you know, they've

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Speaker 6: had they've had kind of revolving doors at quarterback for

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Speaker 6: a couple of seasons in a row now where guys

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Speaker 6: are in and out of the lineup a lot. That

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Speaker 6: position obviously sets the protection, tells him where to go.

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Speaker 6: I wonder if he feels like he's just got certainty

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Speaker 6: on where he's aiming at when he's blocking, as opposed

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Speaker 6: to before, Joe.

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Speaker 2: It's kind of an unfair big picture one. But last

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Speaker 2: one from me in regards to Carle ers Gordon and

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Speaker 2: kind of now her running the show. Do you think

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Speaker 2: she walks in is whatever the new Boston town and says, Hey,

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Speaker 2: the slate is totally clean Chris ballor Shane Syke and

652
00:30:06,800 --> 00:30:09,920
Speaker 2: I'm only evaluating you on twenty twenty five and moving forward,

653
00:30:10,240 --> 00:30:13,360
Speaker 2: or do you think she still goes back to prior

654
00:30:13,440 --> 00:30:17,560
Speaker 2: history on their resumes when forming the evaluation on them.

655
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Speaker 6: My impression of Carly is that she is she's the

656
00:30:23,120 --> 00:30:25,640
Speaker 6: type of person who wants as much information as she can,

657
00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:29,080
Speaker 6: and she's really kind of, you know, she really goes

658
00:30:29,120 --> 00:30:31,400
Speaker 6: out and gets the information in terms of finding what

659
00:30:31,480 --> 00:30:34,920
Speaker 6: she wants to know. I think, you know, what she

660
00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:37,840
Speaker 6: said in the press conference is my understanding of where

661
00:30:37,880 --> 00:30:40,600
Speaker 6: she is. She wants to see how this plays out,

662
00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:43,640
Speaker 6: because she's also aware of all of the behind the

663
00:30:43,680 --> 00:30:46,560
Speaker 6: scenes stuff and everything that had led them to this point.

664
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Speaker 6: So I think I think that it's it's really for

665
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Speaker 6: her if how does this season play out, what does

666
00:30:53,200 --> 00:30:54,640
Speaker 6: it look like, does it look like we're headed in

667
00:30:54,640 --> 00:30:57,800
Speaker 6: the right direction, and then she'll make her decision from there,

668
00:30:57,880 --> 00:31:00,680
Speaker 6: which obviously that's gives it a little le' skews it

669
00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:04,880
Speaker 6: towards this season, but you know, just in terms of

670
00:31:04,920 --> 00:31:07,360
Speaker 6: quarterback play, if you get good quarterback play versus what

671
00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:12,600
Speaker 6: you've gotten in the past, that's obviously a big factor

672
00:31:13,280 --> 00:31:17,160
Speaker 6: in what it might look like going forward. And I

673
00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:20,400
Speaker 6: think that she'll probably weigh heavily what they've done this year.

674
00:31:20,760 --> 00:31:22,600
Speaker 1: That's that's kind of what it feels like. Right If

675
00:31:22,640 --> 00:31:24,360
Speaker 1: at the end of the year you say we've got

676
00:31:24,440 --> 00:31:27,920
Speaker 1: our quarterback, that's probably the defining answer. Don't you think.

677
00:31:29,560 --> 00:31:31,400
Speaker 6: It felt like that was the reason that it felt

678
00:31:31,400 --> 00:31:32,960
Speaker 6: like that was the last reason that was going to

679
00:31:33,080 --> 00:31:36,360
Speaker 6: lead to change coming into this season, was that they've

680
00:31:36,360 --> 00:31:39,120
Speaker 6: been searching for this quarterback. Chris Balader been searching for

681
00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:42,120
Speaker 6: quarterback stability and hadn't been able to find it, and

682
00:31:42,120 --> 00:31:44,400
Speaker 6: then the draft pick didn't work out. But if if

683
00:31:44,520 --> 00:31:47,400
Speaker 6: Daniel Jones continues to play this way and looks like

684
00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:52,840
Speaker 6: a long term answer or at the very least, it's

685
00:31:52,880 --> 00:31:54,800
Speaker 6: hard to say after three games long term answer, but

686
00:31:55,240 --> 00:31:56,920
Speaker 6: at the very least, if he looks like the Alex

687
00:31:56,920 --> 00:31:59,560
Speaker 6: Smith that Chris Ballard was talking about, I think you

688
00:31:59,600 --> 00:32:01,320
Speaker 6: feel a lot better about this team going forward.

689
00:32:01,600 --> 00:32:04,120
Speaker 3: Joel, should I bring some boxing gloves to this week's

690
00:32:04,120 --> 00:32:08,480
Speaker 3: game in La You know, you got some old teammates

691
00:32:08,520 --> 00:32:10,720
Speaker 3: on the other side. Now, I don't know if I

692
00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:13,240
Speaker 3: should just kind of hide because we poached them from

693
00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:16,240
Speaker 3: any star with the Athletic But Nate Atkins now covers

694
00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:19,200
Speaker 3: the rams for the Athletics. So your beat mad? Do

695
00:32:19,240 --> 00:32:20,800
Speaker 3: you do? You square up in the press box? Should

696
00:32:20,800 --> 00:32:22,440
Speaker 3: get a little you know, bell going, how are we

697
00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:22,800
Speaker 3: doing this?

698
00:32:23,440 --> 00:32:26,800
Speaker 6: I'm curious. I'm curious to see how California has changed Nate.

699
00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:29,160
Speaker 6: That's what I want to see. We we were joking

700
00:32:29,200 --> 00:32:31,120
Speaker 6: that he was gonna, you know, be on Muscle Beach

701
00:32:31,280 --> 00:32:33,880
Speaker 6: and show up in the press box with low and

702
00:32:33,920 --> 00:32:35,760
Speaker 6: he hadn't really been there long enough to grow out

703
00:32:35,760 --> 00:32:38,600
Speaker 6: his hair and stuff like that. But like, you know what,

704
00:32:38,600 --> 00:32:41,640
Speaker 6: what's California Nate look like? That's that's my big question

705
00:32:41,760 --> 00:32:45,520
Speaker 6: going into into Sunday. Maybe you know, I can't put

706
00:32:45,520 --> 00:32:50,400
Speaker 6: it in things to watch, but you know, I just.

707
00:32:50,360 --> 00:32:52,400
Speaker 1: Want to Can you get a growler in La? Do

708
00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:53,160
Speaker 1: they do those there?

709
00:32:54,840 --> 00:32:55,400
Speaker 4: I'm sure they.

710
00:32:55,440 --> 00:32:58,200
Speaker 6: I'm sure they give you the option of small one

711
00:32:58,280 --> 00:33:00,000
Speaker 6: or big one. You gotta always go with the big one.

712
00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:03,960
Speaker 6: In a sports bar, they they like they've got they're busy,

713
00:33:04,040 --> 00:33:06,760
Speaker 6: especially on Saturday they've got, they've got waitresses walking around.

714
00:33:06,800 --> 00:33:09,280
Speaker 6: You might not get your second beer. You have to

715
00:33:09,280 --> 00:33:10,440
Speaker 6: go with the big one right away.

716
00:33:10,560 --> 00:33:14,240
Speaker 1: That's experience talking right there. That's that's why I hope you.

717
00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:16,120
Speaker 3: And your juggle beer have a great rest of your day.

718
00:33:16,200 --> 00:33:23,040
Speaker 1: Joel, Thanks buddy, you bet, you bet. Guys, Happy Tuesday

719
00:33:23,120 --> 00:33:25,760
Speaker 1: this morning, as we roll through another cult's victory and

720
00:33:25,760 --> 00:33:27,880
Speaker 1: get ready to go for Week four in the National

721
00:33:27,960 --> 00:33:31,160
Speaker 1: Football League. Mark Dyk and I believe we have a

722
00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:33,280
Speaker 1: family four pack of tickets to give away to go

723
00:33:33,320 --> 00:33:35,360
Speaker 1: see the Indye eleven today. Is this true?

724
00:33:35,680 --> 00:33:35,920
Speaker 2: Yes?

725
00:33:35,960 --> 00:33:40,240
Speaker 8: It is all week long Saturday, this Saturday at Carroll Stadium.

726
00:33:40,240 --> 00:33:43,480
Speaker 8: We've got the Indye eleven taking on the FC Tulsa.

727
00:33:43,640 --> 00:33:45,200
Speaker 8: So if you want tickets, we got a four pack

728
00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:46,880
Speaker 8: to give away today and we'll have tickets to give

729
00:33:46,880 --> 00:33:49,320
Speaker 8: away the rest of the week. All right, anything else

730
00:33:49,360 --> 00:33:52,560
Speaker 8: we have, Mark, Oh yeah, we've got something, indeed, guess

731
00:33:52,680 --> 00:33:53,480
Speaker 8: something else?

732
00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:57,720
Speaker 1: What do we have? Here? HIPing hot plates?

733
00:33:58,080 --> 00:33:58,320
Speaker 6: Over?

734
00:33:58,440 --> 00:33:58,680
Speaker 1: Here?

735
00:33:59,480 --> 00:34:02,800
Speaker 2: Here we go, here we go YouTube stream, pick up

736
00:34:02,800 --> 00:34:06,120
Speaker 2: a little oven met Oh my gosh, see this thing.

737
00:34:06,160 --> 00:34:07,600
Speaker 2: Look at this. You can't get this.

738
00:34:08,520 --> 00:34:10,719
Speaker 1: Household HIPing hot plate? Uh?

739
00:34:11,080 --> 00:34:13,880
Speaker 2: Mark, a plate of what for James boyd here.

740
00:34:14,600 --> 00:34:16,840
Speaker 3: Considering playing the morning said.

741
00:34:16,640 --> 00:34:19,480
Speaker 8: Considering playing the Counting Crows, I would say, James is

742
00:34:19,520 --> 00:34:20,279
Speaker 8: about to eat something.

743
00:34:22,560 --> 00:34:26,839
Speaker 1: Hold the plug on the YouTube stream day. But we

744
00:34:26,880 --> 00:34:28,160
Speaker 1: did not forget.

745
00:34:28,080 --> 00:34:31,320
Speaker 2: James, you really like a plate of crow on this Tuesday.

746
00:34:31,360 --> 00:34:35,279
Speaker 3: Boy, I guess serving it up here? You know what

747
00:34:35,320 --> 00:34:36,120
Speaker 3: I could punch.

748
00:34:35,920 --> 00:34:37,720
Speaker 1: Your Steven.

749
00:34:41,360 --> 00:34:45,600
Speaker 6: Here is your night in four?

750
00:34:46,680 --> 00:34:49,240
Speaker 8: All right and show that up to the camera, James.

751
00:34:49,640 --> 00:34:52,799
Speaker 2: Nice, I you quarters it? Oh wait, oh boy, And

752
00:34:52,840 --> 00:34:53,920
Speaker 2: that's just the appetizer.

753
00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:56,440
Speaker 1: I believe we have one more. We have a shirt

754
00:34:56,520 --> 00:34:58,719
Speaker 1: here the closets.

755
00:34:58,719 --> 00:35:01,640
Speaker 2: Oh my god, Mark relay that to our audience that

756
00:35:01,760 --> 00:35:04,279
Speaker 2: might not be visually with us is trying is a

757
00:35:04,560 --> 00:35:09,359
Speaker 2: Kurt Signetti T shirt that says Indiana I win. Oh

758
00:35:09,400 --> 00:35:11,200
Speaker 2: my goodness, how would you like that for your five

759
00:35:11,320 --> 00:35:14,640
Speaker 2: course mealets this James.

760
00:35:14,280 --> 00:35:17,320
Speaker 3: Boy, feel free to pass that along. You know, let me,

761
00:35:17,400 --> 00:35:18,880
Speaker 3: let me, let me get the late look get it

762
00:35:18,920 --> 00:35:22,120
Speaker 3: this way and yeah, yeah, yeah for those who want

763
00:35:22,120 --> 00:35:22,480
Speaker 3: to see me.

764
00:35:22,520 --> 00:35:23,800
Speaker 1: And you have a whole warrobe.

765
00:35:23,840 --> 00:35:26,120
Speaker 8: Now you only have one shirt. Now you've got the

766
00:35:26,120 --> 00:35:30,759
Speaker 8: Baggers dozen, all right. You see how it is? You

767
00:35:30,760 --> 00:35:33,080
Speaker 8: look good and red, You're looking really good.

768
00:35:33,080 --> 00:35:39,400
Speaker 3: All week, Nettie, I win the shirt.

769
00:35:38,080 --> 00:35:43,800
Speaker 1: Ye this two James is okay? You were only seven

770
00:35:43,840 --> 00:35:45,160
Speaker 1: touchdowns behind.

771
00:35:44,920 --> 00:35:45,200
Speaker 6: You know.

772
00:35:47,120 --> 00:35:49,759
Speaker 2: When you put it like that, and I'm gonna do

773
00:35:49,800 --> 00:35:53,440
Speaker 2: the what is the final sixty three to ten seven plus?

774
00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:56,160
Speaker 1: I think you might might have needed touchdown?

775
00:35:56,520 --> 00:35:58,440
Speaker 3: Oh like none of y'all. That's all right, we go,

776
00:35:58,960 --> 00:35:59,800
Speaker 3: Mark cut the cameras.

777
00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:02,160
Speaker 2: No yesterday for you.

778
00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:03,399
Speaker 3: I got some tussling to do.

779
00:36:05,040 --> 00:36:05,080
Speaker 4: This.

780
00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:08,080
Speaker 3: Actually nice shirt I saw where tomorrow you guys are?

781
00:36:08,640 --> 00:36:10,880
Speaker 3: You guys are insufferable. But the rest of the week,

782
00:36:11,360 --> 00:36:17,480
Speaker 3: I know, I appreciate the kind but also petty gesture.

783
00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:23,840
Speaker 2: Let that slip after yesterday. Stream down yesterday, James Boyd

784
00:36:23,840 --> 00:36:26,600
Speaker 2: For those that are not falling along, he's rocking yesterday yet.

785
00:36:26,680 --> 00:36:29,759
Speaker 2: I you sweatshirt ones. You bought this at the shop.

786
00:36:29,760 --> 00:36:31,200
Speaker 2: Shout out to bro shop.

787
00:36:31,880 --> 00:36:35,120
Speaker 1: And the conspiracy theory goes that the stream was down

788
00:36:35,280 --> 00:36:37,799
Speaker 1: just long enough to miss the morning show yesterday, but

789
00:36:38,080 --> 00:36:40,439
Speaker 1: back online just in time for Jake's show.

790
00:36:40,640 --> 00:36:42,840
Speaker 3: For the record, I have never tried to sabotage a

791
00:36:42,920 --> 00:36:46,640
Speaker 3: YouTube stream. But you know again, I can either confirm

792
00:36:46,800 --> 00:36:50,840
Speaker 3: nor deny why I was down yesterday, And convenient for

793
00:36:50,840 --> 00:36:54,040
Speaker 3: those who might have missed it. I still have my

794
00:36:54,040 --> 00:36:56,440
Speaker 3: my apology. Should I read it again? For the people?

795
00:36:56,960 --> 00:36:58,360
Speaker 1: Which did you read it yesterday?

796
00:36:58,520 --> 00:36:59,759
Speaker 3: I want to say I read it at maybe eight

797
00:36:59,800 --> 00:37:01,640
Speaker 3: o clo yesterday. I don't know if Mark has it

798
00:37:01,719 --> 00:37:04,520
Speaker 3: already pulled her, but I'll read it again. If you

799
00:37:04,560 --> 00:37:05,520
Speaker 3: have some sad music.

800
00:37:05,360 --> 00:37:06,279
Speaker 6: For I can find it.

801
00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:08,680
Speaker 8: I can find it, like I appreciate some set. Just

802
00:37:08,719 --> 00:37:11,680
Speaker 8: put it might feel good to read it again. Yeah here,

803
00:37:11,920 --> 00:37:16,440
Speaker 8: just give me some sad music here.

804
00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:17,279
Speaker 2: James too, and I you bib you know for this

805
00:37:17,320 --> 00:37:21,840
Speaker 2: plate of Yeah, here, we have the fork, we have

806
00:37:21,920 --> 00:37:26,279
Speaker 2: the knife, we have the freshly stitched there it's a

807
00:37:26,320 --> 00:37:27,279
Speaker 2: hot plate of crow.

808
00:37:27,440 --> 00:37:29,640
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, I mean I don't want it any other way.

809
00:37:29,680 --> 00:37:31,120
Speaker 3: I guess you know. I'm the guy who always talks

810
00:37:31,120 --> 00:37:35,040
Speaker 3: about habachi. A bachi crow is trash, though. I want

811
00:37:35,040 --> 00:37:37,280
Speaker 3: to say so, Mark, whenever you're ready.

812
00:37:37,080 --> 00:37:38,640
Speaker 8: To hit you with as soon as these YouTube about

813
00:37:38,640 --> 00:37:41,440
Speaker 8: stop my sad music and being made to where that

814
00:37:41,520 --> 00:37:42,719
Speaker 8: target is selling Halloween night?

815
00:37:44,800 --> 00:37:45,520
Speaker 2: Is that what we're going on?

816
00:37:45,560 --> 00:37:47,600
Speaker 3: Oh you've had I've had a horrible time. You guys

817
00:37:47,600 --> 00:37:50,319
Speaker 3: have just ruined my life. Okay, James Boyd take it

818
00:37:50,360 --> 00:37:54,960
Speaker 3: away all right, here's my apology. Sorry to coach Signetty.

819
00:37:55,440 --> 00:37:58,080
Speaker 3: You once said I win Google me, and I should

820
00:37:58,080 --> 00:38:00,960
Speaker 3: have googled you. You indeed win in historic fashion. I

821
00:38:01,040 --> 00:38:05,000
Speaker 3: might add sorry to Fernando Mendoza. If the Colts weren't

822
00:38:05,000 --> 00:38:07,239
Speaker 3: balling right now, i'd love you for them to draft

823
00:38:07,280 --> 00:38:09,960
Speaker 3: you in the spring. Congrats, Illinois just made you the

824
00:38:10,040 --> 00:38:14,279
Speaker 3: number one pick. Sorry to lead Corso who I Ronlee

825
00:38:14,320 --> 00:38:17,640
Speaker 3: is an Illinois native and IU football legend when I

826
00:38:17,640 --> 00:38:20,719
Speaker 3: picked Illinois, I'm sure you were somewhere else saying not

827
00:38:20,760 --> 00:38:23,800
Speaker 3: so fast, my friend. Sorry to the state of Indiana.

828
00:38:24,200 --> 00:38:27,400
Speaker 3: I've heard the saying and forty nine states is just basketball,

829
00:38:27,440 --> 00:38:30,920
Speaker 3: but apparently that applies to football too. And lastly, I'm

830
00:38:30,960 --> 00:38:32,840
Speaker 3: sorry to the listeners here at one seventy five to

831
00:38:32,840 --> 00:38:35,400
Speaker 3: the fan last week I said I was a prophet

832
00:38:35,440 --> 00:38:37,760
Speaker 3: when I predicted Illinois would beat the Brakes off IU.

833
00:38:38,360 --> 00:38:40,799
Speaker 3: God certainly did not appreciate me. Aarings has blast me

834
00:38:40,840 --> 00:38:43,920
Speaker 3: on these airwaves, and I got the beat down in return.

835
00:38:45,360 --> 00:38:46,360
Speaker 3: You to my apologies.

836
00:38:46,440 --> 00:38:51,640
Speaker 8: Here to my eye, who's your and the YouTube chats

837
00:38:51,680 --> 00:38:53,200
Speaker 8: of those of those shirts extra small?

838
00:38:53,719 --> 00:38:57,880
Speaker 3: Come on, somebody, shaman, But yes, I do not believe

839
00:38:57,920 --> 00:39:01,000
Speaker 3: this is a large This is definitely not a big shirt.

840
00:39:01,160 --> 00:39:04,520
Speaker 2: James pr Firm should ask to have a copy of

841
00:39:04,880 --> 00:39:08,040
Speaker 2: that apology that was beautifully written, got caught at the

842
00:39:08,040 --> 00:39:08,800
Speaker 2: Coldplay concert.

843
00:39:08,920 --> 00:39:09,840
Speaker 3: Needs to take some notice.

844
00:39:10,360 --> 00:39:12,240
Speaker 2: So true, Mark so true?

845
00:39:13,120 --> 00:39:15,239
Speaker 1: Can we rip that and then put that out later

846
00:39:15,280 --> 00:39:18,600
Speaker 1: on today? Sure? Yeah, we got to have that. Uh

847
00:39:19,120 --> 00:39:19,960
Speaker 1: James and his oven.

848
00:39:20,200 --> 00:39:22,160
Speaker 3: Now, I know this is bad. This is bad, but

849
00:39:22,200 --> 00:39:25,440
Speaker 3: also hilarious, So I wouldn't want it any other way. Uh.

850
00:39:25,600 --> 00:39:27,920
Speaker 1: Look, that was just a beat down. There's no other

851
00:39:27,960 --> 00:39:29,440
Speaker 1: way to say it. I don't know that any of

852
00:39:29,520 --> 00:39:32,920
Speaker 1: us saw that coming. Maybe Kurt Signetti did, but they

853
00:39:33,160 --> 00:39:36,080
Speaker 1: just kept rolling. And as I said, and we've said repeatedly,

854
00:39:36,440 --> 00:39:40,000
Speaker 1: if you did miss that game, every time you turn around,

855
00:39:40,040 --> 00:39:42,040
Speaker 1: there was an Indiana football player running to the end

856
00:39:42,120 --> 00:39:45,239
Speaker 1: zone from thirty yards, forty yards, twenty yards. It just

857
00:39:45,280 --> 00:39:48,720
Speaker 1: seemed over and over and over again. Turn the corner.

858
00:39:48,800 --> 00:39:49,000
Speaker 6: Gone.

859
00:39:49,840 --> 00:39:52,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean there's no seeming about it. That's exactly

860
00:39:52,120 --> 00:39:54,520
Speaker 2: what reality was. And again a shout out to the

861
00:39:54,560 --> 00:39:57,680
Speaker 2: IU defensive line and their offensive line. I think that's

862
00:39:57,719 --> 00:40:01,360
Speaker 2: the most impressive part. Is there there trenches providing the

863
00:40:01,400 --> 00:40:04,279
Speaker 2: protection for Nana Middosa, which he really didn't have a

864
00:40:04,320 --> 00:40:06,400
Speaker 2: cow and then their D line, I mean Luke Altmeyer,

865
00:40:06,480 --> 00:40:08,080
Speaker 2: I mean he was on his ass all game long.

866
00:40:08,160 --> 00:40:11,080
Speaker 2: I mean they just dominated up front, and I think

867
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Speaker 2: that's what kind of separates you into being one of

868
00:40:13,640 --> 00:40:16,759
Speaker 2: these teams that we start to talk about as this

869
00:40:16,800 --> 00:40:18,920
Speaker 2: is not a team that when Ohio State shows up

870
00:40:18,920 --> 00:40:20,680
Speaker 2: on the schedule, it's going to be like last year,

871
00:40:20,760 --> 00:40:22,279
Speaker 2: or a Notre Dame shows up on the schedule, it's

872
00:40:22,280 --> 00:40:24,480
Speaker 2: going to be like last year. You get trench play

873
00:40:24,560 --> 00:40:27,239
Speaker 2: that looks like that. Now, all of a sudden, this

874
00:40:27,360 --> 00:40:29,719
Speaker 2: is a team that you talk about hosting a home

875
00:40:29,840 --> 00:40:34,359
Speaker 2: playoff game, winning a playoff game, and that I don't

876
00:40:34,400 --> 00:40:36,600
Speaker 2: think was the case last year. Of course, when they

877
00:40:36,600 --> 00:40:40,000
Speaker 2: met those types of teams, it looked like a separation.

878
00:40:40,960 --> 00:40:42,400
Speaker 2: If you get the trench play to look like that,

879
00:40:42,760 --> 00:40:44,040
Speaker 2: there's not gonna be a separation there.

880
00:40:44,080 --> 00:40:46,279
Speaker 1: No, they were so much more physical than Ellin and James.

881
00:40:46,719 --> 00:40:50,040
Speaker 1: Future lines and I need to juggle you get yeah two,

882
00:40:50,600 --> 00:40:52,560
Speaker 1: you get to go back to Champagne for this meeting

883
00:40:52,640 --> 00:40:55,720
Speaker 1: next year and early lines are like Indiana like minus

884
00:40:55,719 --> 00:40:56,160
Speaker 1: forty two.

885
00:40:56,200 --> 00:40:58,960
Speaker 3: Brother believe in Illini football ever again?

886
00:41:00,480 --> 00:41:03,600
Speaker 1: Were all about Brett Beilaman last week exactly until they lost.

887
00:41:03,600 --> 00:41:04,360
Speaker 1: I'm a front runner.

888
00:41:04,360 --> 00:41:06,239
Speaker 3: I told you all this. As soon as we started losing,

889
00:41:06,280 --> 00:41:08,399
Speaker 3: I gotta jump. I got abandoned ship and just lose.

890
00:41:08,440 --> 00:41:09,200
Speaker 1: They got a humiliate.

891
00:41:09,320 --> 00:41:11,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, that was historically bad. That was one that you know,

892
00:41:12,440 --> 00:41:14,440
Speaker 3: Brett Beelam will remember that loss for the rest of

893
00:41:14,480 --> 00:41:16,799
Speaker 3: his life. That ain't that. That ain't just regular game

894
00:41:16,880 --> 00:41:18,600
Speaker 3: right there. That in the regular butt whooping. That was

895
00:41:18,960 --> 00:41:22,880
Speaker 3: grade A. When I say, you know, some some chefs

896
00:41:22,920 --> 00:41:24,319
Speaker 3: kiss crows eating right there.

897
00:41:24,840 --> 00:41:25,880
Speaker 1: Now, you got a new wardrobe.

898
00:41:25,920 --> 00:41:28,000
Speaker 3: Though I don't worked out a lot I do. I'm

899
00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:30,560
Speaker 3: gonna go long week, a new one every week, gues

900
00:41:30,640 --> 00:41:32,520
Speaker 3: So every day this week I'll wear a different IU

901
00:41:32,640 --> 00:41:33,520
Speaker 3: piece of garb for you.

902
00:41:33,600 --> 00:41:33,960
Speaker 6: There you go.

903
00:41:34,040 --> 00:41:35,640
Speaker 1: Kevin knew what he was doing. Nice job out of you.

904
00:41:35,680 --> 00:41:37,839
Speaker 2: People want the candy stripe pants at some point too.

905
00:41:39,920 --> 00:41:43,080
Speaker 3: Stay tuned, all right.

906
00:41:43,000 --> 00:41:45,200
Speaker 1: Coming up with them. We'll take some phone calls.

907
00:41:45,680 --> 00:41:46,200
Speaker 2: Is that what you said?

908
00:41:46,200 --> 00:41:46,399
Speaker 3: Mark?

909
00:41:47,040 --> 00:41:47,359
Speaker 4: All right?

910
00:41:47,440 --> 00:41:53,120
Speaker 1: Relaxed show, We'll talk some more football cults and take

911
00:41:53,120 --> 00:41:55,160
Speaker 1: some of your phone calls. Two three, nine, ten seventy

912
00:41:55,200 --> 00:41:58,799
Speaker 1: It's next and a James Boyd celebrates Indiana Football Day

913
00:41:58,960 --> 00:42:03,959
Speaker 1: ninety three five. Good morning, Welcome into a Tuesday ninety

914
00:42:04,000 --> 00:42:05,719
Speaker 1: three five, one oh seven to five. The fan been

915
00:42:05,760 --> 00:42:08,440
Speaker 1: talking about the Colts all morning long and there rise

916
00:42:08,680 --> 00:42:11,960
Speaker 1: early to the top of the standings in the AFC South,

917
00:42:12,000 --> 00:42:16,680
Speaker 1: but also just the season long grind and continual rise

918
00:42:16,719 --> 00:42:20,640
Speaker 1: of the Indiana Fever, who have overcome injury after injury

919
00:42:20,680 --> 00:42:23,960
Speaker 1: after injury to some of their biggest stars, including Caitlin

920
00:42:24,040 --> 00:42:28,200
Speaker 1: Clark and just everybody, and that now six players down

921
00:42:28,239 --> 00:42:29,799
Speaker 1: and here they are with a one game to none

922
00:42:29,800 --> 00:42:32,920
Speaker 1: advantage in a best of five semi final playoff series

923
00:42:32,960 --> 00:42:35,319
Speaker 1: against the Las Vegas ASA is here to help us

924
00:42:35,320 --> 00:42:37,080
Speaker 1: put it all into context and get us ready to

925
00:42:37,080 --> 00:42:40,279
Speaker 1: go for Game two tonight. Tony East joins us on

926
00:42:40,320 --> 00:42:43,640
Speaker 1: the Payless Lookers Hotline. He's been covering these Fever all

927
00:42:43,920 --> 00:42:47,719
Speaker 1: season long. Tony, Like, we talk about resilient, we talk

928
00:42:47,760 --> 00:42:50,680
Speaker 1: about grinding, But any other adjectives you'd come up with

929
00:42:50,719 --> 00:42:55,279
Speaker 1: to describe this Fever season, this Fever group, Yeah, I like.

930
00:42:55,239 --> 00:42:57,160
Speaker 4: The resilient one a lot. I mean their Game three

931
00:42:57,239 --> 00:42:59,200
Speaker 4: win to get to this series was.

932
00:42:59,200 --> 00:43:02,200
Speaker 5: Like the basketball embodiment of that, with their little roll

933
00:43:02,280 --> 00:43:05,640
Speaker 5: back against well down five late in that game. It's

934
00:43:05,840 --> 00:43:09,000
Speaker 5: just kind of remarkable, right, like that this is even possible.

935
00:43:09,040 --> 00:43:11,000
Speaker 5: I mean I thought, okay, they beat they.

936
00:43:10,960 --> 00:43:11,520
Speaker 6: Beat the dream.

937
00:43:11,600 --> 00:43:14,640
Speaker 5: Naces have won eighteen their last nineteen games like fun run.

938
00:43:14,680 --> 00:43:16,799
Speaker 5: It might end in this round and then no, no,

939
00:43:16,840 --> 00:43:17,400
Speaker 5: never mind.

940
00:43:17,200 --> 00:43:19,239
Speaker 4: They're just gonna completely push the.

941
00:43:19,239 --> 00:43:21,000
Speaker 5: Stuff in the game.

942
00:43:21,000 --> 00:43:23,160
Speaker 4: Won like they dominated that game. They were running all

943
00:43:23,160 --> 00:43:24,839
Speaker 4: over the floor. Their defense was really good.

944
00:43:25,200 --> 00:43:27,279
Speaker 5: I mean that, you know, we heard Becky am and

945
00:43:27,320 --> 00:43:29,239
Speaker 5: say that they hadn't seen the real Laces yet. I mean,

946
00:43:29,280 --> 00:43:32,120
Speaker 5: this is a different we routine than Naces have ever seen. Too,

947
00:43:32,160 --> 00:43:34,239
Speaker 5: and Clara, they've got a chance to win this series

948
00:43:34,280 --> 00:43:34,920
Speaker 5: and make the final.

949
00:43:35,000 --> 00:43:36,440
Speaker 4: That's it's it's very impressive.

950
00:43:37,040 --> 00:43:38,319
Speaker 3: I didn't want to I don't even want to talk

951
00:43:38,320 --> 00:43:40,920
Speaker 3: to you right now, Tony. As an IU guy, You're

952
00:43:40,960 --> 00:43:42,400
Speaker 3: the reason why I'm on freezing.

953
00:43:42,120 --> 00:43:43,520
Speaker 4: Cold, but I missed the day.

954
00:43:43,600 --> 00:43:45,239
Speaker 5: I'm glad I got to see the picture of you

955
00:43:45,320 --> 00:43:47,120
Speaker 5: in the shirt I have an Illinois shirt.

956
00:43:47,160 --> 00:43:47,720
Speaker 6: I was ready.

957
00:43:48,120 --> 00:43:50,480
Speaker 3: Oh okay, well you know, well you don't need to

958
00:43:50,560 --> 00:43:53,200
Speaker 3: use that ever again, because I think I feel like

959
00:43:53,200 --> 00:43:55,080
Speaker 3: when you lose like that, Tony, if they ever play

960
00:43:55,120 --> 00:43:57,600
Speaker 3: again in Illinois, winsday. It just doesn't really matter, like

961
00:43:57,640 --> 00:44:02,160
Speaker 3: you lost any epic proportions. So jokes society and reside

962
00:44:02,160 --> 00:44:04,359
Speaker 3: from my pain and the crawl I meeting this morning

963
00:44:04,600 --> 00:44:06,640
Speaker 3: was I you gear sitting in front of me getting

964
00:44:06,640 --> 00:44:10,239
Speaker 3: back to the Fever. Looking at what Kelsey Mitchell has

965
00:44:10,239 --> 00:44:12,560
Speaker 3: done this year. I think she's a shoe in for

966
00:44:12,800 --> 00:44:15,520
Speaker 3: First Team All WNBA. Obviously she got voted that way

967
00:44:15,600 --> 00:44:19,600
Speaker 3: for the Associated Pressed team. What do you think of

968
00:44:20,640 --> 00:44:22,640
Speaker 3: what she's done for this team and how much this

969
00:44:22,719 --> 00:44:25,719
Speaker 3: moment means to her because she's been more vulnerable I

970
00:44:25,760 --> 00:44:28,840
Speaker 3: think than probably ever before the especially after last the

971
00:44:28,920 --> 00:44:29,439
Speaker 3: last game.

972
00:44:30,239 --> 00:44:32,719
Speaker 5: Yeah, it was interesting in that game we just saw

973
00:44:32,840 --> 00:44:35,919
Speaker 5: Sunday where I think the Fever's first ten points were

974
00:44:35,920 --> 00:44:37,880
Speaker 5: all Aliah Boston and Natasha Howard.

975
00:44:37,960 --> 00:44:40,120
Speaker 4: Because of the way that aces.

976
00:44:39,840 --> 00:44:41,799
Speaker 5: Regarding Kelsey Mitchell, They're like, Okay, we don't want her

977
00:44:41,840 --> 00:44:43,759
Speaker 5: to get going. We're gonna kind of try to hold

978
00:44:43,800 --> 00:44:45,719
Speaker 5: her on the perimeter and make sure she doesn't have

979
00:44:45,800 --> 00:44:47,200
Speaker 5: a great game. And if we get beat in the

980
00:44:47,200 --> 00:44:49,640
Speaker 5: front court, you know, I'll figure that out later. And

981
00:44:49,680 --> 00:44:51,720
Speaker 5: then guess what they still got beat by Kelsey Mitchell.

982
00:44:51,800 --> 00:44:53,399
Speaker 4: I hat like they couldn't stop her at all.

983
00:44:53,480 --> 00:44:56,480
Speaker 5: There was so many plays even on made shots for

984
00:44:56,600 --> 00:44:59,560
Speaker 5: Kelsey Mitchell was just yeah, I'm faster than new you know,

985
00:44:59,560 --> 00:45:01,279
Speaker 5: I'm just gonna run down the floor, full feed and

986
00:45:01,320 --> 00:45:04,160
Speaker 5: score an easy basket. A few times she couldn't get

987
00:45:04,160 --> 00:45:06,239
Speaker 5: in the paint, no problem, hit four threes and a

988
00:45:06,280 --> 00:45:09,440
Speaker 5: bunch of long twos. It's just the scoring this season

989
00:45:09,480 --> 00:45:11,640
Speaker 5: has been so impressive. And you know, jameson cover games

990
00:45:11,640 --> 00:45:14,600
Speaker 5: for a while, like she just always adds one more

991
00:45:14,719 --> 00:45:18,839
Speaker 5: thing to like her scoring repertoire every year that makes

992
00:45:18,840 --> 00:45:20,799
Speaker 5: her harder to guard than the year before, whether it's

993
00:45:20,840 --> 00:45:23,480
Speaker 5: a better jumper, whether it's a move to get into

994
00:45:23,560 --> 00:45:26,759
Speaker 5: the paint a little differently. And you know, four years ago,

995
00:45:27,080 --> 00:45:29,960
Speaker 5: four seasons a guy I should say, like she meant

996
00:45:30,080 --> 00:45:32,359
Speaker 5: she was not named an All Star, and like at

997
00:45:32,360 --> 00:45:35,160
Speaker 5: the time, she was the first player ever averaging her

998
00:45:35,239 --> 00:45:37,080
Speaker 5: number of points and assists to not be named in

999
00:45:37,120 --> 00:45:39,359
Speaker 5: All Star and w history. And then since then she's

1000
00:45:39,360 --> 00:45:42,920
Speaker 5: gotten better every single year. And so like contextually for

1001
00:45:43,040 --> 00:45:46,359
Speaker 5: somebody who like lets her basketball do the talking for her,

1002
00:45:46,400 --> 00:45:48,719
Speaker 5: like that's her kind of existence in a way that

1003
00:45:48,800 --> 00:45:50,920
Speaker 5: she kind of tries to view everything in her life

1004
00:45:51,000 --> 00:45:53,719
Speaker 5: is like it's not her identity, but it's certainly who

1005
00:45:53,719 --> 00:45:56,160
Speaker 5: she is to her and you know, don't get right

1006
00:45:56,200 --> 00:45:58,399
Speaker 5: when her dad died before last season, she like even

1007
00:45:58,400 --> 00:46:00,239
Speaker 5: poured more into the game, like it's a big moment

1008
00:46:00,320 --> 00:46:03,000
Speaker 5: for her to be doing this and finally in a

1009
00:46:03,080 --> 00:46:05,840
Speaker 5: big series in winning playoff games and not only winning,

1010
00:46:05,880 --> 00:46:08,719
Speaker 5: like completely dominating the game. So I agree, I think

1011
00:46:08,760 --> 00:46:11,040
Speaker 5: she's probably gonna be first team on w especially given

1012
00:46:11,480 --> 00:46:13,759
Speaker 5: how well she did an MVP voting, getting fifth as

1013
00:46:13,800 --> 00:46:16,600
Speaker 5: an earned achievement, and THEACE has certainly got to figure

1014
00:46:16,600 --> 00:46:19,720
Speaker 5: something out to guard her, because even some terrific Jackie

1015
00:46:19,719 --> 00:46:22,360
Speaker 5: Young defense was not enough to slow it down in Game.

1016
00:46:22,160 --> 00:46:25,840
Speaker 3: One to pivot a bit. I think that she is

1017
00:46:25,840 --> 00:46:28,200
Speaker 3: obviously a pity me of kind of what the Fever

1018
00:46:28,280 --> 00:46:31,080
Speaker 3: have gone through in this mark of resilience, but also

1019
00:46:31,800 --> 00:46:34,400
Speaker 3: the other lefty on their team, Obyssey Simms. How big

1020
00:46:34,600 --> 00:46:36,640
Speaker 3: was she in Game one? How big has she been

1021
00:46:36,680 --> 00:46:39,480
Speaker 3: since joining the team, Because I do know that you

1022
00:46:39,520 --> 00:46:41,520
Speaker 3: can kind of count on Kelsey Mitchell. She's proven that

1023
00:46:41,640 --> 00:46:44,960
Speaker 3: as an all star, All league level player, but it's

1024
00:46:44,960 --> 00:46:47,040
Speaker 3: the role players around her that gives team a chance.

1025
00:46:47,080 --> 00:46:49,720
Speaker 3: And so how much is obsc Sims factor into that equation.

1026
00:46:50,640 --> 00:46:53,680
Speaker 5: Yeah, she's a very interesting player. Some games, Oyssey Simms

1027
00:46:53,760 --> 00:46:55,799
Speaker 5: is gonna go two for ten, and some games she's

1028
00:46:55,880 --> 00:46:58,680
Speaker 5: gonna go, you know, eight for thirteen and give you

1029
00:46:58,719 --> 00:47:00,560
Speaker 5: eight assists and you're like, oh, they win that game.

1030
00:47:00,560 --> 00:47:03,160
Speaker 5: Without Odyssey Sims, game one was certainly dead. And what

1031
00:47:03,320 --> 00:47:06,080
Speaker 5: makes her a good fit and Aaron McDonald is like

1032
00:47:06,120 --> 00:47:08,600
Speaker 5: this too, is somehow they found a point guard in

1033
00:47:08,600 --> 00:47:11,279
Speaker 5: the middle of the season who was available, and both

1034
00:47:11,320 --> 00:47:13,239
Speaker 5: of them were on different teams at some point in

1035
00:47:13,320 --> 00:47:16,040
Speaker 5: this campaign that could play fast, like the way they want,

1036
00:47:16,040 --> 00:47:18,680
Speaker 5: like up tempo, and you know, space it out and

1037
00:47:18,760 --> 00:47:21,239
Speaker 5: understand how to get into the lane. And so that's

1038
00:47:21,239 --> 00:47:23,560
Speaker 5: what's made Odyssey so good and for them to me

1039
00:47:23,760 --> 00:47:26,879
Speaker 5: is that they can kind of not sacrifice too much

1040
00:47:26,920 --> 00:47:29,120
Speaker 5: the identity they hopes to have this year. Obviously it's

1041
00:47:29,160 --> 00:47:31,759
Speaker 5: kind of coming gone, given how many players that they

1042
00:47:32,320 --> 00:47:36,520
Speaker 5: have lost or seem injured this season. But Sims, Yeah,

1043
00:47:36,520 --> 00:47:38,960
Speaker 5: and you know, game one was like this, and a

1044
00:47:39,040 --> 00:47:40,440
Speaker 5: couple of games in the first round were like this,

1045
00:47:40,520 --> 00:47:42,759
Speaker 5: Like when she's just skating into the lane and when

1046
00:47:42,760 --> 00:47:45,279
Speaker 5: her shots come because she's got momentum towards the rim

1047
00:47:45,320 --> 00:47:47,319
Speaker 5: and not away from it or side to side. It

1048
00:47:47,320 --> 00:47:50,279
Speaker 5: seems like her shooting percentage is really good and that

1049
00:47:50,360 --> 00:47:53,360
Speaker 5: this double lefty speedy backcourt is just really tough for

1050
00:47:53,400 --> 00:47:56,480
Speaker 5: opponents to handle. They can just quick zip into actions,

1051
00:47:56,480 --> 00:47:58,600
Speaker 5: get up the floor, and get something going their paces.

1052
00:47:58,680 --> 00:48:01,080
Speaker 5: Number one in the league in the postseason so far,

1053
00:48:01,200 --> 00:48:03,439
Speaker 5: like Simmons deserves a lot of credit for being able

1054
00:48:03,480 --> 00:48:06,360
Speaker 5: to execute like that and so out of nowhere to

1055
00:48:06,360 --> 00:48:09,000
Speaker 5: be able to find that player mid season after you

1056
00:48:09,080 --> 00:48:11,680
Speaker 5: lose Caitlin Clark canarry McDonald and still be able to

1057
00:48:11,719 --> 00:48:14,279
Speaker 5: have a point guard who can score, play fast and

1058
00:48:14,600 --> 00:48:16,959
Speaker 5: occasionally have a big ASSISC game is exactly what they needed.

1059
00:48:17,000 --> 00:48:19,239
Speaker 2: She's been great, always great to hear the voice of

1060
00:48:19,320 --> 00:48:21,520
Speaker 2: Tony East, who's with the seer on the Payless Slickers

1061
00:48:21,560 --> 00:48:25,000
Speaker 2: hot line. Tony, you would probably be the best person

1062
00:48:25,000 --> 00:48:26,360
Speaker 2: to ask, and I hope it's not just kind of

1063
00:48:26,360 --> 00:48:30,200
Speaker 2: a lazy question, but what is there any NBA comp

1064
00:48:30,320 --> 00:48:31,640
Speaker 2: you would have for Kelsey Mitchell?

1065
00:48:32,480 --> 00:48:33,760
Speaker 4: Oh, that's a good question.

1066
00:48:34,719 --> 00:48:39,000
Speaker 5: I sometimes on offense, say John Wall just like the

1067
00:48:39,120 --> 00:48:42,120
Speaker 5: pure the scoring, just because you're.

1068
00:48:41,960 --> 00:48:43,280
Speaker 4: So fast with the ball.

1069
00:48:43,360 --> 00:48:46,000
Speaker 5: Sometimes you know, like there are certain plays and I

1070
00:48:46,000 --> 00:48:47,879
Speaker 5: would say Kelsey Mitchell is a better shooter than John

1071
00:48:47,880 --> 00:48:49,600
Speaker 5: wall but that didn't used to be the case. She's

1072
00:48:49,920 --> 00:48:51,880
Speaker 5: you know, she's certainly improved as a three point shooter,

1073
00:48:51,960 --> 00:48:56,240
Speaker 5: but just there are some possessions where Kelsey Mitchell scores

1074
00:48:56,520 --> 00:48:59,720
Speaker 5: just because she is so fast, Like no action happened,

1075
00:49:00,800 --> 00:49:03,440
Speaker 5: screen was there, there was a little bit of space,

1076
00:49:03,480 --> 00:49:05,240
Speaker 5: I guess, and she's just like, I'm just gonna dribble

1077
00:49:05,239 --> 00:49:07,840
Speaker 5: twice that way and beat you that spot and score

1078
00:49:07,920 --> 00:49:09,960
Speaker 5: like John waller that all the time, and that he

1079
00:49:10,320 --> 00:49:12,480
Speaker 5: scored twenty points a game in two seasons because of that.

1080
00:49:12,600 --> 00:49:15,040
Speaker 5: And you know, it's been really interesting to see it

1081
00:49:15,040 --> 00:49:16,680
Speaker 5: on a lefty. But as she's kind of added a

1082
00:49:16,760 --> 00:49:18,879
Speaker 5: jumper in a way that John wall never did, there's

1083
00:49:18,920 --> 00:49:23,480
Speaker 5: not as many really clean comparisons just because the speed

1084
00:49:23,600 --> 00:49:26,880
Speaker 5: is so unique across you know, across the sport. And

1085
00:49:28,040 --> 00:49:30,480
Speaker 5: it's been fascinating to see it now work in a

1086
00:49:30,480 --> 00:49:33,640
Speaker 5: playoff setting because last year they got swept and it

1087
00:49:33,680 --> 00:49:36,399
Speaker 5: wasn't like so dominant or anything. But yeah, that's probably

1088
00:49:36,440 --> 00:49:38,680
Speaker 5: the cleanness that I have come up with in the past.

1089
00:49:38,840 --> 00:49:41,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, part of me thinks like, and I'm doing the

1090
00:49:41,040 --> 00:49:43,759
Speaker 2: lefty thing, So I apologize. It's like we had a

1091
00:49:43,840 --> 00:49:47,040
Speaker 2: listener earlier today comparing Alec Pierce to Jordy Nelson and

1092
00:49:47,080 --> 00:49:48,839
Speaker 2: Adam Feeling. I'm like, can you only do the white

1093
00:49:48,920 --> 00:49:51,960
Speaker 2: comparison when it comes to Alec Pierce? So with Kelsey

1094
00:49:52,000 --> 00:49:54,279
Speaker 2: Mitchell and the lefty like a little bit of like

1095
00:49:54,320 --> 00:49:57,040
Speaker 2: when she starts doing the jab step and just frankly

1096
00:49:57,040 --> 00:49:58,600
Speaker 2: just shoots it with somebody in her face, I think

1097
00:49:58,600 --> 00:50:02,560
Speaker 2: a little harden Now Again, to your point, there's a

1098
00:50:02,560 --> 00:50:04,920
Speaker 2: lot more of a speed component to her game.

1099
00:50:05,360 --> 00:50:07,799
Speaker 4: That was like the best passer in the league for

1100
00:50:08,360 --> 00:50:09,240
Speaker 4: right the right.

1101
00:50:09,080 --> 00:50:11,680
Speaker 2: But like some of the jabs stuff of like wait

1102
00:50:11,760 --> 00:50:13,279
Speaker 2: is this a good shot or not? And she I

1103
00:50:13,320 --> 00:50:15,640
Speaker 2: mean she did. She hits so many of those shots.

1104
00:50:15,640 --> 00:50:17,800
Speaker 2: I feel like those are just dagger shots.

1105
00:50:17,800 --> 00:50:19,680
Speaker 3: Don't worry Tony, He's going to give us a Brandon

1106
00:50:19,719 --> 00:50:24,480
Speaker 3: Jennings comp here in the second, Luke, what.

1107
00:50:24,600 --> 00:50:25,400
Speaker 1: The lefty.

1108
00:50:27,440 --> 00:50:32,120
Speaker 5: Michael Michael Radd first player that comes to mind, Michael Redd.

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00:50:34,400 --> 00:50:35,000
Speaker 1: Uh Steve.

1110
00:50:38,120 --> 00:50:39,920
Speaker 5: I picked Michael Red for a lot of the lefty

1111
00:50:40,000 --> 00:50:42,000
Speaker 5: jokes because I don't know how you guys feel, but

1112
00:50:42,280 --> 00:50:44,960
Speaker 5: I think every lefty jumper just looks kind of wrong.

1113
00:50:45,920 --> 00:50:48,360
Speaker 5: There's no reason for that except for Michael Radd. Michael

1114
00:50:48,400 --> 00:50:50,200
Speaker 5: Rhdd had a lefty jumper that looked like a normal

1115
00:50:50,280 --> 00:50:50,759
Speaker 5: jump shot.

1116
00:50:50,760 --> 00:50:52,000
Speaker 3: To me, that's fair.

1117
00:50:52,080 --> 00:50:53,360
Speaker 1: They could score exactly.

1118
00:50:53,400 --> 00:50:57,319
Speaker 3: I think it's just counterintuitive you used to seeing and

1119
00:50:57,360 --> 00:50:59,400
Speaker 3: how they and Okay, so to pivot a little bit

1120
00:50:59,440 --> 00:51:01,000
Speaker 3: back to the d and this last one I have

1121
00:51:01,080 --> 00:51:05,239
Speaker 3: for you. They shut down Asia Wilson and that is

1122
00:51:05,280 --> 00:51:08,799
Speaker 3: about as honest as I can put it. I mean,

1123
00:51:08,840 --> 00:51:10,960
Speaker 3: she saw a double double, but to shoot that poorly

1124
00:51:11,520 --> 00:51:14,560
Speaker 3: knowing how great a player she is, why do you

1125
00:51:14,600 --> 00:51:16,960
Speaker 3: think they've had success that's not two games counting won

1126
00:51:17,040 --> 00:51:19,560
Speaker 3: the regular season, where they've had kind of swarming defense

1127
00:51:19,600 --> 00:51:21,360
Speaker 3: on her, And how do they continue to try to

1128
00:51:21,400 --> 00:51:21,960
Speaker 3: exploit that?

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00:51:22,840 --> 00:51:24,799
Speaker 5: Yeah, they try to show her bodies in the catch, right,

1130
00:51:24,840 --> 00:51:27,160
Speaker 5: So if you know Asia at her best and like

1131
00:51:27,239 --> 00:51:30,160
Speaker 5: the Asia that kind of saved days the season late

1132
00:51:30,200 --> 00:51:31,799
Speaker 5: against the Storm, she did miss two shots in the

1133
00:51:31,800 --> 00:51:34,719
Speaker 5: final minute, but before that was awesome. Like when she

1134
00:51:34,880 --> 00:51:36,560
Speaker 5: just can catch and kind of go in the lane

1135
00:51:36,560 --> 00:51:38,080
Speaker 5: and knows where her defender is, she's going to get

1136
00:51:38,120 --> 00:51:40,440
Speaker 5: a good shot. She's gonna score a lot of the time.

1137
00:51:40,880 --> 00:51:42,240
Speaker 4: And so when she catches.

1138
00:51:42,280 --> 00:51:44,600
Speaker 5: You got to have not only her defender on her,

1139
00:51:44,600 --> 00:51:47,239
Speaker 5: but someone else right nearby to prevent the turn and go.

1140
00:51:47,960 --> 00:51:49,840
Speaker 4: So they showed bodies really well. They had the doubles

1141
00:51:49,880 --> 00:51:50,720
Speaker 4: on the correct side.

1142
00:51:50,800 --> 00:51:52,879
Speaker 5: She wants to turn over that left shoulder user left,

1143
00:51:53,200 --> 00:51:56,280
Speaker 5: you know, and some things they did very well. Granted

1144
00:51:56,400 --> 00:51:59,600
Speaker 5: that was including the regular season, the fourth worst Asia.

1145
00:51:59,400 --> 00:52:00,840
Speaker 4: Wilson shooting percentage of the season.

1146
00:52:00,920 --> 00:52:03,200
Speaker 5: I do think that Becky Hammond is right to say

1147
00:52:03,239 --> 00:52:06,520
Speaker 5: that she did just miss in some ways, but they

1148
00:52:06,640 --> 00:52:07,800
Speaker 5: forced her to miss a lot, you know, want to

1149
00:52:07,840 --> 00:52:09,719
Speaker 5: go six for twenty two just like oops, you know,

1150
00:52:09,760 --> 00:52:12,960
Speaker 5: I missed, Like they did a really good job of that.

1151
00:52:13,200 --> 00:52:14,800
Speaker 5: And then I thought in the second half the Aces

1152
00:52:14,840 --> 00:52:17,839
Speaker 5: tried to make it so Asia with catching farther from

1153
00:52:17,920 --> 00:52:19,680
Speaker 5: the rim so she had more space to kind of

1154
00:52:19,719 --> 00:52:22,279
Speaker 5: turn and face up and do her thing, and they

1155
00:52:22,280 --> 00:52:23,880
Speaker 5: were ready for that too, Like they cut off the

1156
00:52:23,960 --> 00:52:25,839
Speaker 5: driving lanes. They didn't let her just get into some

1157
00:52:25,840 --> 00:52:29,200
Speaker 5: flowing actions with Chelsea grand Jack Young. It was really

1158
00:52:29,200 --> 00:52:31,920
Speaker 5: really good defense, and Eliah Boston stat line was not

1159
00:52:32,040 --> 00:52:35,600
Speaker 5: fantastic postgame because I thought her defense was so good

1160
00:52:36,280 --> 00:52:38,680
Speaker 5: and that was a huge part of the game because

1161
00:52:38,760 --> 00:52:41,399
Speaker 5: Age was a great defender too, and so they kind

1162
00:52:41,400 --> 00:52:43,680
Speaker 5: of went at her offensively in a way that maybe

1163
00:52:43,719 --> 00:52:46,400
Speaker 5: you can't do over and over again. But her fourth

1164
00:52:46,440 --> 00:52:49,319
Speaker 5: foul came in a five point game in the third quarter,

1165
00:52:49,360 --> 00:52:51,320
Speaker 5: and the Fever immediately went on like a fourteen to

1166
00:52:51,360 --> 00:52:52,680
Speaker 5: three run and put the game away.

1167
00:52:53,000 --> 00:52:54,759
Speaker 4: You know, they did a really good job of.

1168
00:52:55,000 --> 00:52:57,080
Speaker 5: Really neutralizing her on both ends of the floor in

1169
00:52:57,120 --> 00:52:59,640
Speaker 5: a way that may not honestly be repeatable. You know,

1170
00:52:59,719 --> 00:53:02,120
Speaker 5: she again always feels like the most dominant player in

1171
00:53:02,160 --> 00:53:03,000
Speaker 5: the league to me when.

1172
00:53:02,840 --> 00:53:03,359
Speaker 4: I watch her.

1173
00:53:03,520 --> 00:53:04,960
Speaker 5: She did not in Game one, and that is a

1174
00:53:05,040 --> 00:53:07,600
Speaker 5: credit to the Fevers defense that has been pretty good

1175
00:53:07,640 --> 00:53:11,360
Speaker 5: against some star players in this postseason BG Free Jones,

1176
00:53:11,640 --> 00:53:15,200
Speaker 5: Ryan Howard and now now Asia two and an offense.

1177
00:53:15,239 --> 00:53:16,799
Speaker 4: In some ways, they did a great job with her.

1178
00:53:17,280 --> 00:53:19,239
Speaker 1: Tony East he covers the fever. But of course the

1179
00:53:19,280 --> 00:53:21,520
Speaker 1: Pacers as well. Locked on Pacers, joining us on the

1180
00:53:21,520 --> 00:53:24,799
Speaker 1: Paylost Lickers hotline on that topic of Pacers. You wrote

1181
00:53:24,800 --> 00:53:27,480
Speaker 1: a piece in Forbes recently this week as a matter

1182
00:53:27,480 --> 00:53:30,399
Speaker 1: of fact, on Obi toppin believing in the new look

1183
00:53:30,400 --> 00:53:33,160
Speaker 1: Pacers front court. What did you learn there? What does

1184
00:53:33,200 --> 00:53:33,600
Speaker 1: it mean?

1185
00:53:34,440 --> 00:53:34,680
Speaker 6: Yeah?

1186
00:53:34,760 --> 00:53:37,439
Speaker 5: He you Know talked he has camp in Indy last week,

1187
00:53:37,480 --> 00:53:40,920
Speaker 5: and he's dashed about their front court dynamics because it's

1188
00:53:40,920 --> 00:53:44,360
Speaker 5: a lot different. There's no Miles Turner anymore, obviously, no

1189
00:53:44,480 --> 00:53:47,680
Speaker 5: Thomas Bryant and Lakobe Toppen would believe in himself if

1190
00:53:47,719 --> 00:53:48,400
Speaker 5: his team.

1191
00:53:48,239 --> 00:53:51,120
Speaker 4: Was me, you three, my mom, you know, he'd be like, yeah,

1192
00:53:51,120 --> 00:53:52,839
Speaker 4: we got this in our style, it's gonna be pretty good.

1193
00:53:53,000 --> 00:53:56,080
Speaker 5: But I think with him, what makes him so interesting

1194
00:53:56,080 --> 00:53:57,960
Speaker 5: to me in the context of the Pacers front court

1195
00:53:58,040 --> 00:54:00,319
Speaker 5: is no matter what way they want to play, he's

1196
00:54:00,400 --> 00:54:02,200
Speaker 5: kind of a big part of it, right because what

1197
00:54:02,320 --> 00:54:04,040
Speaker 5: made him so good for the Pacers is they can

1198
00:54:04,120 --> 00:54:06,719
Speaker 5: move him to the bench and not play with Haliburton,

1199
00:54:06,800 --> 00:54:08,960
Speaker 5: and it was fine because he could fit with McConnell.

1200
00:54:08,960 --> 00:54:10,520
Speaker 5: He could shoot threes in a way he never did

1201
00:54:10,560 --> 00:54:13,239
Speaker 5: with the Knicks, and that became immediately very important for him.

1202
00:54:13,280 --> 00:54:14,879
Speaker 5: And then they played the Bucks in the first round

1203
00:54:14,880 --> 00:54:16,719
Speaker 5: the playoffs in his first season with the team, and

1204
00:54:16,960 --> 00:54:19,600
Speaker 5: Carla's like, Heyobi, you're playing backup five and he was like, great,

1205
00:54:19,719 --> 00:54:22,239
Speaker 5: got it. So I think kind of whatever form an

1206
00:54:22,320 --> 00:54:25,400
Speaker 5: identity the Pacers want to take this season, if they

1207
00:54:25,400 --> 00:54:27,839
Speaker 5: want to keep playing the way that they have with

1208
00:54:27,920 --> 00:54:31,279
Speaker 5: Haliburton without him this year, So play fast, pass it

1209
00:54:31,320 --> 00:54:33,239
Speaker 5: a bunch great. Owie Topin is going to be good

1210
00:54:33,600 --> 00:54:35,759
Speaker 5: doing that. He can pair with whoever the back of

1211
00:54:35,800 --> 00:54:37,600
Speaker 5: five is. He con pair with Siaka, It doesn't matter

1212
00:54:37,600 --> 00:54:38,600
Speaker 5: if they want to slow it down.

1213
00:54:38,960 --> 00:54:40,879
Speaker 4: Great, he's a better shooter. He can play the four

1214
00:54:41,040 --> 00:54:41,439
Speaker 4: or the five.

1215
00:54:41,480 --> 00:54:44,480
Speaker 5: He'll fit right into what they're doing and their best lineup.

1216
00:54:44,520 --> 00:54:46,080
Speaker 5: I don't know how you guys feel about this, but

1217
00:54:46,480 --> 00:54:48,719
Speaker 5: probably has Shiakim at the four and top and at

1218
00:54:48,760 --> 00:54:51,600
Speaker 5: the five something that he's proven he can do over

1219
00:54:51,640 --> 00:54:53,279
Speaker 5: the last couple of seasons in a way that I

1220
00:54:53,400 --> 00:54:55,160
Speaker 5: you know, when they traded for him, did not expect

1221
00:54:55,200 --> 00:54:57,920
Speaker 5: that Obie Topping at the five would be this valuable

1222
00:54:57,920 --> 00:54:59,560
Speaker 5: of a weapon. I don't think they'll go to that

1223
00:54:59,600 --> 00:55:02,080
Speaker 5: a lot, but certainly at times. So kind of no

1224
00:55:02,080 --> 00:55:05,480
Speaker 5: matter what way the Pacers want to play, because of

1225
00:55:05,480 --> 00:55:07,920
Speaker 5: the way their front court is structured, Obi Topa is

1226
00:55:07,960 --> 00:55:09,760
Speaker 5: going to be like a big part of what they're doing.

1227
00:55:09,800 --> 00:55:12,200
Speaker 5: And I think that he kind of realizes what their

1228
00:55:12,239 --> 00:55:14,319
Speaker 5: system is and what their team dynamic is, and I

1229
00:55:14,320 --> 00:55:16,160
Speaker 5: think he'll be He'll be really important to kind of

1230
00:55:16,160 --> 00:55:18,960
Speaker 5: whatever way they want to handle things this year, which

1231
00:55:19,200 --> 00:55:20,759
Speaker 5: will be certainly different than last year.

1232
00:55:21,080 --> 00:55:23,640
Speaker 2: Tony, can I get you behind one more lefty right here?

1233
00:55:24,000 --> 00:55:29,200
Speaker 2: How about neck the quick van x Soul Cincinnati's own

1234
00:55:29,520 --> 00:55:34,719
Speaker 2: Luke shout out to that one. Luke tweeted me that one. Excellent, Luke, I.

1235
00:55:34,760 --> 00:55:37,400
Speaker 4: Love that one. That's the best one we've come up with.

1236
00:55:37,440 --> 00:55:42,000
Speaker 1: You agreed, Agreed, Tony. You're ready for basketball season cause

1237
00:55:42,040 --> 00:55:45,239
Speaker 1: the Pacers, I'm talking NBA Pacers start like in a

1238
00:55:45,280 --> 00:55:45,879
Speaker 1: moment here.

1239
00:55:49,040 --> 00:55:51,200
Speaker 4: I'm not used to the fever playing into pacerland. I'm

1240
00:55:51,239 --> 00:55:53,879
Speaker 4: used to the opposite. This is quite the year. But yes,

1241
00:55:53,920 --> 00:55:54,560
Speaker 4: I'm very ready.

1242
00:55:54,640 --> 00:55:57,319
Speaker 5: I think some teams have media day today because they

1243
00:55:57,360 --> 00:56:00,200
Speaker 5: have like an overseas trip. So it's the unofficial art

1244
00:56:00,200 --> 00:56:01,360
Speaker 5: of NBA for me today.

1245
00:56:01,800 --> 00:56:04,160
Speaker 1: Crazy all right, buddy, thank you so much for stopping by.

1246
00:56:04,200 --> 00:56:05,680
Speaker 1: We appreciate it and we will see you and talk

1247
00:56:05,719 --> 00:56:08,160
Speaker 1: to you soon. Kick Tony oh Man.

1248
00:56:10,440 --> 00:56:11,040
Speaker 4: Thanks, guys.

1249
00:56:11,160 --> 00:56:11,600
Speaker 1: There you go.