Speaker 1: Ron Hatklinsky, who is the former Anderson coach in The
Speaker 1: Great High School Basketball Coach, was coaching Edgewood when I
Speaker 1: was in high school, and I needed to play for
Speaker 1: somebody like that who would kick my ass because I
Speaker 1: was just such a clownish wooss I was back on there.
Speaker 1: That's a regret. I don't want to have any regrets,
Speaker 1: but that's a regret I have. So maybe your dad
Speaker 1: could have done that right, could have worked it turned
Speaker 1: out differently. Joe could have coming from the same crowd
Speaker 1: who cryings about Notre Dame schedule constantly. Can you imagine
Speaker 1: sending that to me just now? I wonder was he seriously?
Speaker 1: I need it? And I know a lot of you
Speaker 1: probably evaluate things over the course of your life. I
Speaker 1: do this all the time, and that was a defining moment.
Speaker 1: Not that everybody around me at that time was not good.
Speaker 1: They were good people, but I was able to get
Speaker 1: away with stuff, and I wish now that I I wasn't.
Speaker 1: Are the Andy Moore Auto Montiic group Potline. He is
Speaker 1: the author of the biggest play in the history of
Speaker 1: the Indianapolis Colts and a friend of this show. Marlon
Speaker 1: Jackson joins us. How you doing, Pal, I'm good, Dane.
Speaker 2: How you doing?
Speaker 3: Man?
Speaker 1: It feels way too long. Did you look back on
Speaker 1: your playing career on whatever level and think, Man, I'm
Speaker 1: glad I was pushed in the fashion of which I was.
Speaker 3: Oh, man, I was well. I was listening to you know,
Speaker 3: as you're talking about life. You know, I don't have
Speaker 3: to necessarily look back and think I wish I was pushing.
Speaker 3: I mean I was pushed hard from an early age
Speaker 3: just for my life circumstance period, right, Like you know,
Speaker 3: I grew up with a lot of adversity within my household,
Speaker 3: within my community, so that that shaped my attitude, and
Speaker 3: that shaped my mindset.
Speaker 2: As a competitor. So the playing field that was my outlet,
Speaker 2: right to.
Speaker 3: Let out everything that was pent up on the inside
Speaker 3: from having difficulties in everyday life and struggles, and that
Speaker 3: became my outlet on the football field. But you know,
Speaker 3: and listening to everything you guys are talking about, adversity
Speaker 3: is helpful in helping you grow. The only way you
Speaker 3: actually really grow in life is through challenges and through adversities,
Speaker 3: is not through everything being perfect and everybody telling you
Speaker 3: how great you are and.
Speaker 2: Not having any difficulties.
Speaker 3: That's not where growth really occurs in life.
Speaker 1: I so wish, looking back on it, that I was
Speaker 1: challenged even more I do, And you know, you're kind
Speaker 1: of like I talked to my kids about not having regrets,
Speaker 1: and that's one massive regret that I have that I
Speaker 1: have to live with right now too. And maybe it's
Speaker 1: easier to look in the review to see exactly who
Speaker 1: you were, and I enjoy who I am right now,
Speaker 1: but I just wish that there would have been more
Speaker 1: war that could have been squeezed out of me at
Speaker 1: the time. And honestly, I don't I feel bad because
Speaker 1: I kind of wood out on a lot of things
Speaker 1: back then too, And I have a great deal of
Speaker 1: admiration for those guys that were coach hard. They agree
Speaker 1: to be coach hard, and then those that also coach
Speaker 1: them hard.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that's it's always a fine line, but I've
Speaker 2: been That's.
Speaker 3: A challenges in society now, is you know, parents being
Speaker 3: okay with their kids being pushed and being coached hard,
Speaker 3: understanding that the ultimate goal is about growth and it's
Speaker 3: not necessarily about their comfort level and where they are
Speaker 3: right now, but where we would like them to be
Speaker 3: and it's going to take some challenges and challenging moments
Speaker 3: to actually help them get to that possibility that is
Speaker 3: within them.
Speaker 1: So, Marla Jackson, who joins us on the Anymore Automotive group, hootline,
Speaker 1: what is your thought on this coach team, not just
Speaker 1: for what you've seen so far in camp, but for
Speaker 1: the expectation. I mean, there are a lot of question
Speaker 1: marks and really going into the season, there is a
Speaker 1: lot of crossing your fingers and hoping. But what is
Speaker 1: your expectation for this group as we view it right
Speaker 1: now early stages of camp and Westfield.
Speaker 3: Well, I mean, the only thing that comes to my
Speaker 3: mind when you pose that question is there's a lot
Speaker 3: of potential, right And I said, there's a lot of
Speaker 3: potential because of what we saw last year before the
Speaker 3: injuries occurred, and having that perspective and seeing the current roster,
Speaker 3: knowing that if we stay healthy, this could be a really,
Speaker 3: really good team with Daniel Jones at quarterback, a strong
Speaker 3: offensive line, Dalton Taylor at running back, Alec Pearce, Josh
Speaker 3: Downs and others. Right, you know, there's a lot of
Speaker 3: potential offense when you look at the defense and you
Speaker 3: look at this.
Speaker 2: Young talented secondary.
Speaker 3: You look at the young guys along the defensive front
Speaker 3: along with the veterans that are anchors up front, like
Speaker 3: the Forest Butner and Grover, and then you look at
Speaker 3: the young talent at the linebacker.
Speaker 2: Position and safety position.
Speaker 3: You see that there's a lot of potential, but it
Speaker 3: is all predicated on do we stay healthy. That is
Speaker 3: for me, that is the number one factor going into
Speaker 3: this season is can the key players on this team
Speaker 3: stay healthy? Can you keep Daniel Jones healthy? Can you
Speaker 3: keep Jonathan Taylor healthy? Can you keep Alec Pearce healthy?
Speaker 3: Like those are the critical things that you know as
Speaker 3: this season unfolds, it is what I will watch. Can
Speaker 3: you keep Sauce Gardner healthy?
Speaker 2: Right? Can you keep Mooney Ward healthy?
Speaker 3: Which is a big question mark when you speak about
Speaker 3: a guy like.
Speaker 2: Him that has concussion issues.
Speaker 3: You know, football is a very physical sport and we
Speaker 3: saw the potential on the customer being realized last season,
Speaker 3: but then we saw the wheels fall off when the
Speaker 3: injury started to occur.
Speaker 1: Marther Jackson with us, you are a valued member. As
Speaker 1: I mentioned, you're the altar, the biggest player in the
Speaker 1: history of the Indianapolis Colts. Of that cold secondary. How
Speaker 1: do you view up and down this cold secondary. Maybe
Speaker 1: compare that between the one you played with and the
Speaker 1: expectations that you feel. Hopefully, when healthy, this group can
Speaker 1: live up to.
Speaker 3: Well, I mean the disguise the limit when I when
Speaker 3: I look at this secondary on paper, I think, arguably,
Speaker 3: talent wise, one of the best secondaries in the National
Speaker 3: Football League.
Speaker 2: When when you look at.
Speaker 3: The corners and then you look at Cam Binen as safety,
Speaker 3: but then when you look at you know, uh, the
Speaker 3: young guy that we brought in on a l s
Speaker 3: U is a A J. Halsey, And then you know,
Speaker 3: if you look at Wally at nickelback, there's a lot
Speaker 3: to be excited about. Wally is picking up right where
Speaker 3: he left off in training camp last year. Is great
Speaker 3: to see. Is great to see Sauce Gardner healthy because
Speaker 3: we all know he's an all.
Speaker 2: Pro level player.
Speaker 3: But then you know, we know what Mooney Warter can
Speaker 3: do when he's actually healthy, and then we know the
Speaker 3: playmaking ability that Cam buying him has, So then you know,
Speaker 3: you add in AJ Halsey as a young talented safety
Speaker 3: if he plays up to the level of his potential,
Speaker 3: the those starters in terms of the two corners, the nickelback,
Speaker 3: the two safeties, I mean, arguably the best in the league.
Speaker 3: But then it comes into play. We all know that
Speaker 3: at some point in time of the season that they're
Speaker 3: going to uh be some guys that need to step up,
Speaker 3: right the backups.
Speaker 2: So then it's about death. What does the.
Speaker 3: Death look like at secondary? We really won't find out
Speaker 3: until we are tested, but when you look at the
Speaker 3: front line, it is arguably one of the most talented
Speaker 3: secondaries in the National Football League.
Speaker 1: You know, it's interesting too. And Mala Jackson joins us
Speaker 1: On and Andy Moore aut aboutive group podline that we're
Speaker 1: not going to find out a lot of things until
Speaker 1: week number one against Baltimore, and that's why things get
Speaker 1: thick schedule wise with this team quickly in the first
Speaker 1: five weeks. You got to come correct or this is
Speaker 1: going to be problematic for the remainder two. And I
Speaker 1: think that's why you kind of look at this and
Speaker 1: you wonder, you know, hopefully Daniel Jones is ready. We've
Speaker 1: yet to talk about Alec Pierce. It maybe some edge
Speaker 1: rushing potential consistently with Leatu Latu can be involved in this,
Speaker 1: but a lot really has to come together early, and
Speaker 1: this has not been a staple of this Colts team
Speaker 1: recent history. Last year it was with injuries compromising things,
Speaker 1: but prior to that not so much.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, we know we cannot afford to have one
Speaker 3: of the stars that we have historically had over the
Speaker 3: last we want to say, five plus seasons, with last
Speaker 3: year being the exception. With the difficulties that lie ahead
Speaker 3: and this with the scheduling, there's no room for air
Speaker 3: early in the season. And I think that has it
Speaker 3: should have created a sense of urgency in the off season,
Speaker 3: and even more so now that we are in training camp.
Speaker 3: So I'm sure the coaches are.
Speaker 2: Preaching urgency, consistency, finishing.
Speaker 3: All of those all of those themes, right, you know,
Speaker 3: trying to drill that into the mindset, and then hopefully
Speaker 3: they're creating a highly competitive atmosphere daily at practice, because
Speaker 3: that is where it all starts, is competition in practice.
Speaker 3: Competition in practice leads to positive habits that transition into results.
Speaker 2: Within the game.
Speaker 3: So, you know, we can only speculate right now, but
Speaker 3: you know, these are my hopes of what I hope
Speaker 3: is occurring when in the meetings and on the practice field,
Speaker 3: the competition daily in meetings on the field, in the
Speaker 3: weight room, sharpening that iron, developing those habits so that
Speaker 3: we are ready to go out there and run through
Speaker 3: this first part of the season and build the confidence
Speaker 3: to sustain us to the rest of the season.
Speaker 1: Is Marla Jackson with us. We've talked about plenty of
Speaker 1: times in the past. Your foundation. You guys have something
Speaker 1: going on. It is a Colt Trivia event August, that's thirteenth,
Speaker 1: I believe, right, Marl, and talk a little bit about that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, August, August thirteenth, we have the second second time
Speaker 3: that we're doing this Coach Coach Trivia at the Skylight
Speaker 3: Skyline Club and Indianapolis. The Coach will be playing the
Speaker 3: New England Patriots in their first preseason game that evening.
Speaker 3: Leading up to that from six to eight pm, you
Speaker 3: can come and hang out with me. I'm gonna be
Speaker 3: the host for the evening on the behalf of the
Speaker 3: Fight for Life Foundation in the Skyline Club of Indianapolis.
Speaker 3: And really it's a relaxed, laid back environment where we're
Speaker 3: gonna have five rounds.
Speaker 2: Of trivia that I will host.
Speaker 3: We're gonna have live music with DJ lock Star and
Speaker 3: when it is trivia.
Speaker 1: Is tough right there? I like lock Star man.
Speaker 3: Yeah, great, great guy does a great job on the
Speaker 3: tables and always we always work with them that Fight
Speaker 3: for Life and silent auctions and then prizes you know
Speaker 3: for the first, second and third place teams and great food,
Speaker 3: networking and community as well in terms of all the opportunities.
Speaker 3: And we'll be making a special announcement as well on
Speaker 3: something that we're releasing at the Fight for Life Foundation.
Speaker 3: Tickets can be purchased on our website. If you go
Speaker 3: to ww dot ff LF.
Speaker 2: Dot org short for Fight for Life Foundation.
Speaker 3: Dot org and then go to the hub, you'll see
Speaker 3: an article that has information about the event and a
Speaker 3: link to purchase tickets.
Speaker 1: That's awesome. I tell you what we're gonna do too.
Speaker 1: Uh again, that is a what is that a week for?
Speaker 4: What is that?
Speaker 1: A week from tomorrow? Yeah, week from tomorrow.
Speaker 2: Week one week from tomorrow.
Speaker 1: Why don't we I'll put you on hold when we
Speaker 1: hang up or or well we disconnect here you talked
Speaker 1: to Kaleble. We'll get you back on this time next
Speaker 1: week and make sure everybody is aware of that within
Speaker 1: that twenty four hour period, Marlin, do you want to
Speaker 1: do that? I got to have you on more man,
Speaker 1: this been my bag. I've missed you a great deal.
Speaker 2: Oh I mean well I missed coming on too. It
Speaker 2: is always great.
Speaker 3: You always got great energy and it's great to connect
Speaker 3: and talk and talk coach football and just you know,
Speaker 3: life in general. As you started off this conversation talking
Speaker 3: about how.
Speaker 1: You grew up, yeah, big big Whoosi too. You're really
Speaker 1: proud to be on the big former Woosie right here,
Speaker 1: aren't you see?
Speaker 5: Bute?
Speaker 3: But the key the key word is there is former
Speaker 3: key the key word right, not not not current You
Speaker 3: you outgrew that that phase of life.
Speaker 1: Do we know how our guy Bullet is doing these days?
Speaker 1: And again, Melvin Bullet, do we know how he's doing
Speaker 1: these days? Because people remember our show together back in
Speaker 1: the day, The.
Speaker 3: Jackson The Jacksonne Bullet yam b. Yeah, Yeah, there's been
Speaker 3: It's been quite quite some time. But I haven't spoken
Speaker 3: to Bullet in quite some time. But I see from
Speaker 3: a far looks like he's doing great things in Texas.
Speaker 3: He has a sports complex that he has down there,
Speaker 3: and from what I can see, well.
Speaker 1: It looks like he's doing well that's awesome. Well, next
Speaker 1: Wednesday we'll do this again to remind folks that's the
Speaker 1: Skyline Club, which is by the way, awesome right there.
Speaker 1: That is going to be a great time to be
Speaker 1: had by all. But Marlon will remind people all this
Speaker 1: with you on the show again next Wednesday. If that's
Speaker 1: okay with.
Speaker 3: You, Yeah, that's all great.
Speaker 1: We'll put you on hold. Marlon, you talked to Caleb.
Speaker 1: Will set that up for next week. But it's good
Speaker 1: to have you back on PAL.
Speaker 2: I appreciate it.
Speaker 1: Marlon Jackson on the Andy Moore Automotive Group Potline awesome, dude,
Speaker 1: Caleb said it up again for next Wednesday. I dig
Speaker 1: you know, I've only been in the Skyline Club one time,
Speaker 1: one damn time. I don't know how I've not been
Speaker 1: there more than once. I want to say that I
Speaker 1: was up and there. The one time I was there
Speaker 1: was thanks to our good friend a Paris. One time
Speaker 1: in the Skyline. This is legit. Actually, I think I
Speaker 1: had to speak at the Skyline because you know that
Speaker 1: there are probably some pre speech cocktails to make sure
Speaker 1: that this guy was ready to rock. Marlin does a
Speaker 1: great jemfes, what a great guy. Thank you Derek for
Speaker 1: sending me that to the Skyline Charity Classic in partnership
Speaker 1: with the Fight for Life Foundation, six o'clock Colts Trivia,
Speaker 1: August the thirteenth. That is a week from tomorrow. I've
Speaker 1: got a little Colts pregame show coming up a week
Speaker 1: from tomorrow, Ronald, I'm excited about it. I will get
Speaker 1: Marlon back on next week on the Andy Moore Auto
Speaker 1: Money Group Hotline. He is the coast of the Fan
Speaker 1: morning show along with Gabe Cups Boyd and his dance routine.
Speaker 1: It's Kevin Bowen with us right now. Did you approve
Speaker 1: this whole dance and video stuff being sent out by
Speaker 1: your co host?
Speaker 5: I was not following you there for for just a second.
Speaker 5: I thought you represented his basketball game.
Speaker 4: Boy.
Speaker 5: I'm probably not wanted to be judging anyone on their
Speaker 5: dance routines after my young jock performance there in Westfield, But.
Speaker 1: My goodness, you got to You got a close up
Speaker 1: right here on YouTube? Is that? What do you do?
Speaker 1: Are you laying in bed?
Speaker 5: What?
Speaker 1: What's going on? No? No, no, there's a bag. We're
Speaker 1: all look. We got planing going on right there. I
Speaker 1: love it.
Speaker 5: We got Nelly Bowen crawling around. I put the two
Speaker 5: others upstairs. I figured she's the one for you the
Speaker 5: most trouble.
Speaker 1: So I thought you had that camera's almost up your
Speaker 1: nostril right there. That's a pretty big close up right there. No, no,
Speaker 1: it's good. I just know it's okay. We need to
Speaker 1: see your chiseled features.
Speaker 5: I thought you wanted to see my nose here. But yeah,
Speaker 5: James Boyd, I mean he's going a little solo, right.
Speaker 5: I mean it looks like he could be a backup
Speaker 5: dancer here for you know, the Jackson five or something.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's a dancing guy. Honestly. I watched him perform
Speaker 1: that last night. He did like two or three different times,
Speaker 1: and he didn't look like he had much rhythm whatsoever.
Speaker 1: It didn't. It looked he.
Speaker 5: Got no jump shot and he's got no rhythm.
Speaker 1: He was begging for rhythm. Yeah, last night last night sucked.
Speaker 1: They do we played. I said this earlier. You can't
Speaker 1: play for an hour and a half pick up basketball
Speaker 1: and play four games. Then you're doing it all wrong.
Speaker 1: It was bad last night. So that's why I got
Speaker 1: to go back again tonight to Greenwood Christian and for
Speaker 1: the first time since he became the producer of this show.
Speaker 1: Caleb can't make it, so there's a check mark.
Speaker 5: Well, I was talking with somebody with the Colts and
Speaker 5: they were asking me if they could join Who's Your
Speaker 5: Your your pickup game? So remember there pr staff. Do
Speaker 5: you know Hayden Clark at all? He's a good dude.
Speaker 1: Can you play.
Speaker 5: Well?
Speaker 1: I assume, I mean sure, We're always wide open you.
Speaker 5: All right, So send him to Greenwood Christian.
Speaker 1: I'm a little hardcore about it, as Caleb can attest to.
Speaker 1: So once you're in, you you got to be in.
Speaker 1: I don't want I don't take people bowing out or
Speaker 1: not making it, and I sure as hell don't take
Speaker 1: the last minute bails. We cannot do that because you're
Speaker 1: gonna get it from me. If that's the case.
Speaker 5: I'll never forget a few years ago when James Boyd
Speaker 5: bailed on your Sunday morning because I thought he had
Speaker 5: a little strange next to him in bed, and you
Speaker 5: weren't happy with that.
Speaker 1: I don't care. You got plenty of time to work
Speaker 1: that you can get up at seven and come down
Speaker 1: here and play for two hours and get back to it,
Speaker 1: you know, heh.
Speaker 5: Bringer she can, she can, she can rebound during during
Speaker 5: during warmups.
Speaker 1: I I have no mercy in terms of the text
Speaker 1: group of these guys. If you're a no show, you're
Speaker 1: gonna hear about it. And I don't care if that's
Speaker 1: at Southport or at Senegrove or a Greenwood Christian or wherever.
Speaker 1: If you don't make it, you're gonna hear about it.
Speaker 5: So I love your intensity.
Speaker 1: I'm intense, there's no doubt. Hey, I'm going to ask
Speaker 1: you about your intensity. So you're a Notre Dame, honk,
Speaker 1: we know that to be true. Were you upset about
Speaker 1: this whole au Notre Dame thing or did Zach Osterman
Speaker 1: talk you off the ledge this morning?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 5: I you know, honestly, what I want to see from
Speaker 5: college football is whether it's a big time the SEC.
Speaker 5: And that's kind of what Zach was hammering today. You know,
Speaker 5: they get an agreement for a non conference schedule, or
Speaker 5: you get the ACC in the Big Twelfth to join
Speaker 5: as well. And again, we can't agree on anything in
Speaker 5: college sports, so this is probably a pipe dream. But
Speaker 5: for me, I think we need to get all these
Speaker 5: powerful conferences to agree. Yes, your conference games are your
Speaker 5: conference games and then all of you need to play
Speaker 5: one tough well, I mean tough is kind of a
Speaker 5: loose term, but agree to one non conference game because
Speaker 5: for me, when we get to late August early September, John,
Speaker 5: that's that like quiet period for the NFL, right before
Speaker 5: Labor Day. And if you look at Week one of
Speaker 5: the college football slate this year, it's terrible. And to me,
Speaker 5: it's all these teams afraid to you know, risk having
Speaker 5: a loss, and I think we need to get an
Speaker 5: agreement here. Sorry, we got some crying kids there.
Speaker 1: Uh no, Max Salon, life's working behind you right there,
Speaker 1: that's all good. Is this the basement of the bowing
Speaker 1: the state right here? Yeah?
Speaker 4: This is Max?
Speaker 1: Hey? Max, Hey, tell Max to go get his grabbers.
Speaker 5: Max, you want to go get your chompers, get your chompers.
Speaker 1: And I want him to pull out his dad's ears
Speaker 1: while you're doing this interview. Can we do that?
Speaker 4: He's feeling a little bad, buddy.
Speaker 1: I'm Max. Hey, buddy, you guys are watching on YouTube live.
Speaker 1: Well you need to be right now because we got
Speaker 1: Max Bowen on the lap, Dad, Kevin Bowen. We're looking
Speaker 1: for the clampers of the clumper what it called the Clampers.
Speaker 5: Yeah, he calls him as uh, he calls him as,
Speaker 5: calls him as chompers. Here, cool, let me go, let
Speaker 5: me go take him.
Speaker 1: That's okay, you're gonna take him upstairs. Kevin Bowen is
Speaker 1: going to take him upstairs right now. I'm back with you,
Speaker 1: Kevin Bowen, Cartisy, the Andy Moore Automotive Group, Potline. I
Speaker 1: love real life. I think you guys know that. And
Speaker 1: this is real life. There's nothing, not a damn thing
Speaker 1: wrong with real life, Brothers, there's.
Speaker 6: Not except except for what you gotta go get drinks
Speaker 6: with your friends and then you get chast eyes on
Speaker 6: are well, you might.
Speaker 1: As well get used to. You're the one that accepted
Speaker 1: this again, you knew what that was going to entails.
Speaker 1: I don't feel bad about it. I am a I
Speaker 1: am a force of nature when it comes to this
Speaker 1: stuff right here, and I am I feel like I'm
Speaker 1: hardcore and like it's funny. I think I'll make up
Speaker 1: when I was talking to Marlin about my younger existence.
Speaker 1: I think I'm making up for that right now, seriously.
Speaker 1: And I'm glad somebody finally taught me that. So they
Speaker 1: really do. And I was lucky that I grew up
Speaker 1: around people like when I grew up doing this. I
Speaker 1: look back at my time with Mark Patrick, and Mark
Speaker 1: Patrick is hardcore. But Mark Patrick was hardcore for a reason,
Speaker 1: and I appreciate that. Now. Maybe when you're in it
Speaker 1: at the time, you don't get it. But I think
Speaker 1: when you get further down the road, especially when you've
Speaker 1: really enjoyed what you've done, I think it becomes more
Speaker 1: magnified and you've become more appreciative of it. That makes sense.
Speaker 1: Kevin Bowen is back right now? Is Max? Okay?
Speaker 5: Apologies there? John, No man, No.
Speaker 1: Real life is great. I was just telling Caleb that
Speaker 1: I dig real life.
Speaker 5: Yeah, a little little chaos here, but yeah, I think
Speaker 5: to get back, I guess the call tou all thing.
Speaker 5: What I want to see is all forty four conferences
Speaker 5: agree to one non conference game, I think, and maybe
Speaker 5: we're going to need to expand the playoff to sixteen
Speaker 5: or twenty four before teams are willing to do that.
Speaker 5: But I think that is going to be something that
Speaker 5: is just needed. You know, when you when you look
Speaker 5: at where we're at right now from from from a
Speaker 5: from a non conference standpoint, I'll be right there, okay,
Speaker 5: and and that to me, I think it would be
Speaker 5: super beneficial from late August early September because frankly, when
Speaker 5: you look at those two weekends, those are weekends that
Speaker 5: college football world I think needs to be on center stage,
Speaker 5: and right now you just don't really have a lot
Speaker 5: of that.
Speaker 1: And is it okay for me to say I'm going
Speaker 1: to interject on this too, because I've been a hardcore
Speaker 1: on my stance I until somebody figures that out or
Speaker 1: makes a rule that that has to happen, I don't
Speaker 1: understand why why I'm not necessary. I'm not saying you
Speaker 1: at all, but I don't see why people are up
Speaker 1: said about what AU does because I you what they're
Speaker 1: doing is following a formula that clearly works and works
Speaker 1: with this environment and this landscape. And I think people
Speaker 1: are absolutely bat as crazy to believe that they should
Speaker 1: peel away from that until you have to, until somebody
Speaker 1: forces you to do it, You do what best benefits
Speaker 1: your situation and what has I don't know why. I
Speaker 1: do know why because I know the blue bloods are
Speaker 1: upset about all of this stuff. But in terms of
Speaker 1: IU and the success this has work for them, So
Speaker 1: why should they feel compelled because of criticism to move
Speaker 1: away from that. I am staunchly in their category or
Speaker 1: in their corner in this. You do what you do
Speaker 1: as long as it shows the results until somebody changes
Speaker 1: up the rules, which is inevitable. But for the time being,
Speaker 1: I love what they do well.
Speaker 5: I think I guess a counter to that would have
Speaker 5: been the playoff two years ago, you know, when when
Speaker 5: they go ten and two or I forget what their
Speaker 5: exact record was, but you know when they had the
Speaker 5: losses or no they were I guess they just had
Speaker 5: one loss right, and a lot of people question, yeah,
Speaker 5: because Ohio State beat them, you know, pretty handily there
Speaker 5: late in the season, and there was some of the
Speaker 5: question whether they should even get in. I think there
Speaker 5: were a ten seed if I remember correctly, I want
Speaker 5: to say Notre Dame was hosting as the seven. And
Speaker 5: a big reason why I think some of the committee
Speaker 5: members thought that Indiana should have been closer to the
Speaker 5: bubble was because of their schedule and because of the
Speaker 5: you know, I forget if those Louisville or Virginia that year,
Speaker 5: which one that they bought out from, So I think
Speaker 5: that would be the question is when you get to
Speaker 5: be not an undefeated team, which who knows, maybe they'll
Speaker 5: just continue to win every single game. But when all
Speaker 5: of a sudden you get to be on the bubble,
Speaker 5: is that going to be used against you? You know
Speaker 5: Ohio State, you know they have Texas right now in
Speaker 5: the non conference. If you were going to compare like
Speaker 5: resumes at the end of the year and it's Ohiose
Speaker 5: and Indiana with the same record, You're probably gonna side
Speaker 5: more with Ohio State willingness to play equality, not non
Speaker 5: non conference opponent. So that would be the question. When
Speaker 5: you go on to feed and you win the national title,
Speaker 5: you can do anything. You could schedule Eastern Green and
Speaker 5: people aren't going to care. But I think the question
Speaker 5: becomes if and when you're now being compared to a
Speaker 5: nine and three sec team, Now, what's that discussion going
Speaker 5: to be?
Speaker 1: Like, Yeah, I think it's a massive blue broad pity
Speaker 1: party because of the IU situation, And maybe that's part
Speaker 1: of the reason why, because it rubs those folks the
Speaker 1: wrong way that I really enjoy it and nothing against you,
Speaker 1: you know how much I like you, But you can
Speaker 1: factor in Notre Dame in that process. Too. I don't
Speaker 1: give a crap, I guess, and I think it's funny
Speaker 1: that everybody gets all bent out of shape about it.
Speaker 1: Is that fair? Is that fair? From my standpoint?
Speaker 5: What frustrates men? Again, obviously I'm heavily biased here. I
Speaker 5: just want to see these quality games. Like to me,
Speaker 5: you imagine what a Notre Dame Indiana week would have
Speaker 5: been like for our station? You know, the Notre Dame
Speaker 5: USC back on the schedule. Can you imagine if the
Speaker 5: big time in the SEC agreed to a non conference
Speaker 5: home and home and now Alabama was coming to Bloomington,
Speaker 5: Indiana to play.
Speaker 1: About the end result? Though, like Signetti in company, they're
Speaker 1: working for the end result. They don't give a crap
Speaker 1: about what we're going to be entertained by. Do they know?
Speaker 1: I should? I don't.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I know full well what they're doing. But I'm
Speaker 5: just talking. What I would love to see from college
Speaker 5: football is can we all agree on all right? Instead
Speaker 5: of playing Howard Austin p and Ball State in the
Speaker 5: non conference, why don't you have two cupcakes in one quality?
Speaker 5: And again, if everyone is in agreement on the one quality,
Speaker 5: now it's more of a level playing field and now
Speaker 5: you have appointment television late August early September. That to
Speaker 5: me is something that again, college football can't agree on anything. Clearly.
Speaker 5: I'm not holding my breath to say this is going
Speaker 5: to happen, but that's what I would like to see
Speaker 5: from an entertainment standpoint in late August and early September.
Speaker 1: I guess it's kind of magnified for me Kevi a
Speaker 1: little bit here because I love to watch again all
Speaker 1: these high quality, high caliber, historic football programs collegiately have
Speaker 1: to try to all get bent out of shape because
Speaker 1: of the IU infiltration here. I love that, and I
Speaker 1: love the fact that i U is going to go
Speaker 1: about their business and do what they do, I guess,
Speaker 1: until somebody makes a rule and suggest they can't and
Speaker 1: they have to go about it a different way. I
Speaker 1: love that, and I love the fact that you have
Speaker 1: a lot of people complaining about it. So I live
Speaker 1: in this world, you know again, And I think Signetti's
Speaker 1: the type of guy that will adjust. Certainly, if the
Speaker 1: rules would predicate that you have to adjust, he will,
Speaker 1: But I think he would adjust if he felt he
Speaker 1: had to. But at this point, whatever formula they and
Speaker 1: he's using, clearly works, so there's zero way I would
Speaker 1: go about it any differently.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think, yeah, I mean to live in a
Speaker 5: little bit of reality. If this was Alabama or LSU,
Speaker 5: I think we all be bitching and moaning. But because
Speaker 5: it's a team in our own backyard, correct, and it's
Speaker 5: Kurt Signetti right now, then you know.
Speaker 1: We had to live with this phap. We were born
Speaker 1: and I know you've been a Notre Dame fan, so
Speaker 1: that's a little bit different. But look, we were born
Speaker 1: where you in football around here was basically a doormat
Speaker 1: if it wasn't Notre Dame. So this is all new
Speaker 1: and it's awesome. And the fact that whether you're an
Speaker 1: SEC team or a blue blood or whatever, they're all
Speaker 1: been out of shape about this, it's gratifying. I think
Speaker 1: it's gratifying to a level in which most people felt
Speaker 1: they would never see in the form of football around here.
Speaker 1: So it's great.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, obviously it's beyond foreign times, to say
Speaker 5: the least here. So yeah, we'll see if anything changes,
Speaker 5: because you know, the the SEC has the whatever, everybody's
Speaker 5: got to play one in their non conference, and it's
Speaker 5: something that i'd like to see the Big ten explore
Speaker 5: too as a as a conference. But until the Big
Speaker 5: until the playoff expands to your point, we're probably not
Speaker 5: gonna see it.
Speaker 1: Kevin Bowen The Fan Morning Show, He and Gabe Cupps
Speaker 1: Junior Weekday Morning seven until today, not three five and
Speaker 1: one o seven five the Fan. You know how much
Speaker 1: I love James. By the way, Hey, your conversation with
Speaker 1: Daniel Jones, did you like bendover and check out his achilles?
Speaker 1: You feel that thing up to make sure it was okay?
Speaker 5: That's say. I can't say I went, you know, underneath
Speaker 5: the table or felt a round on the old achilles there,
Speaker 5: But yeah, I thought he gave us maybe a little bit,
Speaker 5: you know, more than he does in a in a
Speaker 5: normal press conference setting. So I appreciated him joining us.
Speaker 5: And you know, honestly, just the fact that here we
Speaker 5: are six practices in John and he's taking every single
Speaker 5: starting rep. That to me is the biggest thing. And
Speaker 5: there's been a willingness to let him be mobile and
Speaker 5: let him scramble. And while I don't think he's one
Speaker 5: hundred one hundred percent, the fact that they're willing to
Speaker 5: do all that. In late July and early August. I
Speaker 5: think has got to be viewed as a very very
Speaker 5: positive step in his direction.
Speaker 1: Hey keV, seriously, I'm glad he's taken every rep too.
Speaker 1: But do they really want to give any starting reps
Speaker 1: and start any dialogue between Leonard and Richardson? Seriously? Would
Speaker 1: they rather not do that? So you're saying yeah, because
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, men more thought talking about, well,
Speaker 1: you see a literary god starters reps today? Hey, Richardson
Speaker 1: goes starters reps today?
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean I guess it would be more from
Speaker 5: a medical standpoint, like if the medical team's like, hey,
Speaker 5: in this hour and a half practice, we don't want
Speaker 5: Daniel doing all fourteen periods. You know, you would kind
Speaker 5: have no choice.
Speaker 1: However, who would they use? Who do you think they
Speaker 1: would use if they did, if they gave somebody else
Speaker 1: the starters repped just for a moment of practice participation,
Speaker 1: who would it be?
Speaker 5: I think if they played a game tomorrow, Riley Leonard
Speaker 5: would be the backup.
Speaker 1: Is that because he's better or because.
Speaker 5: That is because he's less likely to burn the house down.
Speaker 1: Because he can feel the snap, right I guess?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Seriously, So I'm a snapping still problematic, by the way,
Speaker 1: do we know? And it's like every day it's weird.
Speaker 5: I mean every day, and even Leonard had one or
Speaker 5: two yesterday that all of a sudden it's like a
Speaker 5: broken play. And I mean some of it, I get
Speaker 5: is on the center. I mean Richardson has dropped several
Speaker 5: So yeah, I mean these preseason games. You know, I
Speaker 5: assume of the twelve quarters, Richardson Leonard will play a ton,
Speaker 5: but right now I would It's clear the first team
Speaker 5: offense has been able to move it a bit, but
Speaker 5: the second third team it's been a struggle, to say
Speaker 5: the least.
Speaker 1: Do you think that Richardson is going to go down
Speaker 1: in history as one of the most athletic guys not
Speaker 1: to be viewed as athletic in history of sport? You
Speaker 1: know what I mean? I mean the whole snap issue.
Speaker 1: But you look at him and you go, man, this
Speaker 1: dude is an absolute Adonis.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean the snap issue. I mean, to be
Speaker 5: fair to him a little bit, like, is it still
Speaker 5: I related?
Speaker 1: Yeah, Oh, I don't. Who knows that? Well, I mean,
Speaker 1: that's problematic, right, I didn't even consider that, but yeah,
Speaker 1: I guess, Hey, I can't see the snap, so that's problematic.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's kind of funny. Somebody in the media room
Speaker 5: there to day was like, you know, will Richardson go down,
Speaker 5: it's one of the biggest busts in NFL history. It'll
Speaker 5: be interesting like like if and when those conversations happen. Yeah,
Speaker 5: if you look at it and I'm not one of
Speaker 5: these people, it's like, you know, quarterback record as gospel,
Speaker 5: but it is kind of wild that, like he could
Speaker 5: be viewed as one of the biggest bust in NFL
Speaker 5: history and yet he's eight and seven as a starting quarterback. Yeah,
Speaker 5: like you know, what was JaMarcus records or JaMarcus Russell's record,
Speaker 5: what was Ryan Leaf's record? I mean, you know, some
Speaker 5: of these quarterbacks just were horrible. And if you want
Speaker 5: to go step further, I mean the Colts fired that
Speaker 5: defensive coordinator that Richardson was starting with and Gus Bradley,
Speaker 5: so uh.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean all right now, Nelly Nelly did
Speaker 1: you name her after Nelly Olsen of Little House on
Speaker 1: the Prairie.
Speaker 5: You say hi to Uncle John right there, Hi, Nelly,
Speaker 5: He's ready giving you a smile.
Speaker 1: I know she is all the chicken that's how all
Speaker 1: the chicks respond to Uncle John. Right there.
Speaker 5: She knows you've got a big hoop game tonight with Kristian.
Speaker 1: That is uh, that is Mattie Bowen all the time
Speaker 1: right there?
Speaker 5: Man, Yeah, certainly certainly not her father here.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's awesome, well done. How's Nelly doing? Right there?
Speaker 1: Is Nellie?
Speaker 5: Uh, she's great, she's she's nine months tomorrow. She's healthy
Speaker 5: and happy and crawling all over the house. And yeah,
Speaker 5: welcome to zoom life with the bow and basement.
Speaker 1: So when you guys shoot videos with Max and he's
Speaker 1: got his clampers out there and grabbing helmets and stuff,
Speaker 1: and you guys do it on the sidewalk, how close?
Speaker 1: Because those cars are zooming by right in front of
Speaker 1: your house. How close are we on that sidewalk to
Speaker 1: the street.
Speaker 5: I mean, look at this, This is Uncle John putting
Speaker 5: on his coore factor hat here. Yeah, we live a
Speaker 5: we live on a streets. It's a little a little
Speaker 5: too busy maybe for my liking.
Speaker 1: So are we are we thinking about getting getting out
Speaker 1: of the place or we stay in there? Do you
Speaker 1: like it? I do?
Speaker 5: I mean from an interest rate, it's just you know,
Speaker 5: not to get too homeownery on you. But the interest
Speaker 5: rate's just too good to pass up.
Speaker 1: You guys want to come down and live with me.
Speaker 5: I would love to try and seriously pitch that idea
Speaker 5: to Maddie and just see if I could go ten
Speaker 5: or fifteen seconds before she's like her, are you a well?
Speaker 1: I got yeah, the basement has lived down there, and you.
Speaker 5: Got a crib for Nelly ready?
Speaker 1: Oh heck yeah, got everything, everything exactly, everything exactly down there. Caleb, Hey,
Speaker 1: Caleb has been to a pool party across the world. Before.
Speaker 6: I was gonna say Kevin, like, this is what's gonna
Speaker 6: happen to me. He keeps dragging me around everywhere.
Speaker 1: It's gonna be. There's no doubt there is gonna be
Speaker 1: living there.
Speaker 5: I mean, you can do a bet you know what's
Speaker 5: gonna happen. First, Caleb living there, John having a grandkid
Speaker 5: crawling around.
Speaker 1: Lord of Mercy blank t keep it in your drawers, buddy,
Speaker 1: Come on now, don't do that to me. So there's
Speaker 1: zero way I'm ready to ready for that. But now, seriously,
Speaker 1: hey fever. Stephanie White was the Coach of the Month
Speaker 1: in July. How much has been made about her being
Speaker 1: the most significant issue that has been absolutely wrong to you.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it is kind of fitting. How well did they
Speaker 5: play this month and now you see all the awards
Speaker 5: coming in. Yeah, you know, to me, if anything in
Speaker 5: the gripe a little bit about the defensive personnel, you know,
Speaker 5: someone that I feel like has played pretty well for
Speaker 5: him and they've really needed has been Mobilliings correct mess. Yeah,
Speaker 5: She's not as frontline as maybe some of the others
Speaker 5: we talk about, but she's been big for him. And
Speaker 5: tomorrow night, I mean, I know a lot of eyes
Speaker 5: will be on Colts practice, but that's a big one,
Speaker 5: you know, because beating the upper echelon. Yeah, I think
Speaker 5: is now kind of the next question for them. And
Speaker 5: home court is really real. I mean, there's an opportunity here.
Speaker 5: When's the last time they've had a home court series,
Speaker 5: you know, So we'll see if they can get that
Speaker 5: here in the final whatever ten or fifteen games.
Speaker 1: You know, And the Pacers guarded a little bit to
Speaker 1: help themselves end up in the NBA Finals, that's what's
Speaker 1: going to be with the fever. They can score and
Speaker 1: score it will, but you're going to have to be
Speaker 1: able to guard a little bit. And they just can't
Speaker 1: guard a little bit right now. That's problematic for him.
Speaker 5: No, I would agree, and you know you saw that
Speaker 5: late in the Minnesota game. Just could not get enough
Speaker 5: stops there. So yeah, tomorrow night should be a good one.
Speaker 1: Do you know Nellie Olsen Little House in the Prairie?
Speaker 1: Did you get that reference? No, did not watch The
Speaker 1: Little House on the Prairie. You're too young for that.
Speaker 1: How old are you?
Speaker 5: Nelly for Tado.
Speaker 2: Month?
Speaker 1: You know what former NBA player Nellie Fortado dated and
Speaker 1: also used in a song of hers.
Speaker 5: Oh I should know this, Caleb.
Speaker 1: You know two time MVP of the NBA, Steve Nash. Yeah,
Speaker 1: because I think they're both Canadian. He was he and
Speaker 1: and she and with Nelly Fortado and she put him
Speaker 1: in that song.
Speaker 5: Yeah. I should have known that a little bit quicker
Speaker 5: than I did.
Speaker 1: Who was the most awkward professional basketball player that's ever
Speaker 1: been used in a song?
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 5: Oh gosh, I'm sure you could get some? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Do you remember? Didn't? Didn't? What song is it where
Speaker 1: Jay Z says handles like Van Exel. Nick Van was
Speaker 1: in the song?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, but Nick van Exell, I mean he could
Speaker 5: score there for he good?
Speaker 1: He was a He was a really good left I
Speaker 1: won't tell you left handed dudes mess up the world
Speaker 1: too in basketball.
Speaker 5: The Cincinnati guy, right, did you play for Huggins?
Speaker 1: He did, Nick Van Exel back in the day. So
Speaker 1: all right, what do you guys got going on tomorrow morning? Buddy?
Speaker 5: Just previewing that that night practice. Yeah, so we're done
Speaker 5: with our colts player coach related interviews there. I think
Speaker 5: we're trying to effort maybe the new Purdue A D.
Speaker 5: But I have a feeling that'll be having to be
Speaker 5: later because I think they're announcing it tomorrow or maybe
Speaker 5: he's doing a press conference tomorrow.
Speaker 1: I'm not going to ask any questions about Dyke didn't
Speaker 1: taking dumps in the yard? All right? Is that okay
Speaker 1: with you? Seriously?
Speaker 5: You can't endorse that.
Speaker 1: Can you?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 1: I mean if I had to, I probably would because
Speaker 1: I'd rather do that in the yard in my pain.
Speaker 1: But at the same time, yeah, how do how did
Speaker 1: that come up? This morning?
Speaker 5: That's a long story. I was describing how it looks
Speaker 5: like when Daniel Jones is running right now, looks like
Speaker 5: you might be trying to hurry to the potty a
Speaker 5: little bit.
Speaker 1: Right it's better than his cubs arousal, though. Do you
Speaker 1: not just get worn out on that angle?
Speaker 5: Good lord, PCA. That's that's literally all all he tweets
Speaker 5: about right now, is w W E pc A.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Hey, by the way, Mike Broun just walked by
Speaker 1: the window here. He told me he's going to give
Speaker 1: me some free gas. Do you want some?
Speaker 5: What's the latest on the old gas text?
Speaker 1: I say, hey, get your ass in here, I want
Speaker 1: some free gas, Braun. Yeah, what do you think exactly?
Speaker 1: I'm talking about Jasper all the time. I got free gas.
Speaker 5: Everybody's going if he wants me, dude to fill up. Yeah,
Speaker 5: there's gotta be some stations off of two thirty one.
Speaker 1: All right, well, I appreciate it. Take gif gape cups
Speaker 1: our best tomorrow.
Speaker 5: Okay that maybe laughs.
Speaker 1: See Buddy by Kevin Bowen and Nelly on the Andy
Speaker 1: Moore Automotive Group Potlight meantime on the Andy Moore Automotive
Speaker 1: Group Potline. We'll double back to that in a second.
Speaker 1: State fair passes we have for you as well. From
Speaker 1: the Athletic The National college Football reporter Scott doctor Bean
Speaker 1: joins us. Now, Hey, Scott, good afternoon, to your pal,
Speaker 1: how are you?
Speaker 4: I'm great. How's it going today?
Speaker 1: All right? So we look at the top five right
Speaker 1: in the preseason rankings, they all believe have returning quarterbacks.
Speaker 1: Now number six has a new quarterback that are offending
Speaker 1: national champions. But how do you compare, and this just
Speaker 1: occurred to me. You have returning signal callers compared to
Speaker 1: having returning coordinators, which has been a staple for Kurt Signetti,
Speaker 1: having these coordinators with him over this incredible run. How
Speaker 1: do you compare or balance out the two in this case?
Speaker 4: I think in this case, if Indiana had a different name,
Speaker 4: if it was a blue blood name, it would get
Speaker 4: the benefit of the doubt that it did not get
Speaker 4: here and it should have. And I think what told
Speaker 4: me a lot about the way the coaches are voting
Speaker 4: is that they had the second most first place votes
Speaker 4: yet their sixth overall, which tells me that there's a
Speaker 4: ton of coaches that vote him voted them tenth, eleventh
Speaker 4: somewhere in the teams, and that's really unacceptable. If you
Speaker 4: want to continue to make this pull matter, you've got
Speaker 4: to vote the teams where they really are. In Indiana
Speaker 4: to me, is no less than a top three or
Speaker 4: four program right now, and based on everybody that they
Speaker 4: have coming back to outstanding coordinators, the best head coach
Speaker 4: in the country, and even though they don't have a
Speaker 4: returning quarterback, they have one who was very successful last
Speaker 4: year and Josh Hoover at TCU. And what we've seen
Speaker 4: out of Kurt Signetti in these two years is he's
Speaker 4: made good quarterbacks into either very good quarterbacks in the
Speaker 4: case of Kurt work or elite quarterbacks in the case
Speaker 4: of for Nando Mendoza. And I think Josh Hoover probably
Speaker 4: has a stronger pedigree coming into Indiana. Doesn't mean that
Speaker 4: he's going to be as good as for Nando Mendoza,
Speaker 4: who is one of the best we've seen in Big
Speaker 4: ten country in decades, but it does mean that they
Speaker 4: should receive more of the benefit of the doubt than
Speaker 4: they received. And I think it's kind of it's unacceptable
Speaker 4: again for a lot of coaches to rank them low,
Speaker 4: to force them to be number six overall, you know.
Speaker 1: And again, Scott doctr Mon of the Athletic College Football
Speaker 1: Reporters on the Andy Moore Automotive Group potline with us.
Speaker 1: Right now, when you look at this particular team. Is
Speaker 1: it almost like it's EYEU against everybody right now. A
Speaker 1: year ago there were this incredible story, but now it's
Speaker 1: transitioned into, hey, look how they don't schedule. Hey look
Speaker 1: how much money they have considering the resources, and they
Speaker 1: bought themselves a national title. It seems like, well what
Speaker 1: they did a year ago, it is completely offended the
Speaker 1: blue bloods that are out there to really now hand
Speaker 1: off the most hated to the IU football program. Is
Speaker 1: there any fair in the way you judge i you,
Speaker 1: at least from those around them, as being maybe the
Speaker 1: most hated during the college football landscape going into the season.
Speaker 4: I think outside of Big ten country, that's totally fair.
Speaker 4: I mean, what we're seeing right now is pretty typical,
Speaker 4: which is the college football industrial complex tearing down teams
Speaker 4: that don't quite fit into the blue blood category. And
Speaker 4: it happens every year. We've seen it with teams like
Speaker 4: an IU who is able to accomplish great things. We've
Speaker 4: seen it in the past with Iowa with being the
Speaker 4: fake idea of college football, and several other teams that
Speaker 4: have kind of fit that description. And so you do
Speaker 4: see this tear down, it's like you're not cool enough,
Speaker 4: you're not old money, You're not good enough for this crowd.
Speaker 4: But I don't think that's the case of the Big Ten.
Speaker 4: I think there is immense respect in the Big Ten
Speaker 4: for what Indiana. Did you look at the programs that
Speaker 4: are competing in a sim level. I don't think Oregon
Speaker 4: feels that way. Ohio State understands what it has, and
Speaker 4: the other programs of the Big Ten are really more
Speaker 4: or less I wouldn't say in awe, but very much respectful.
Speaker 4: But I think you look at primarily from SCC country,
Speaker 4: they're threatened by what Indiana represents and how it's accomplished.
Speaker 4: And you look at this team and there are very
Speaker 4: few weaknesses. I think Indiana it can be the bull,
Speaker 4: the villain, you know, but you know what, I think
Speaker 4: Kurt Signetty would applaud being the villain as well.
Speaker 1: So how does it magnify even more defensively the return
Speaker 1: that we found out yesterday and he was in practice
Speaker 1: down in Bloomington today in preparation for the start of
Speaker 1: the season for a fifth year, that of the injured
Speaker 1: and the celebration after the Big Ten title game of
Speaker 1: defensive lineman Stephen Daily.
Speaker 4: I mean this is a massive return. I mean, you
Speaker 4: can't ask for a better player to come back and
Speaker 4: kind of get this fifth year than Stephen Day. I mean,
Speaker 4: he got hurt last year. I remember seeing it happen.
Speaker 4: I was in Indianapolis when it happened. And and to
Speaker 4: actually be able to win the national title without him,
Speaker 4: I thought, oh, man, that you know it was going
Speaker 4: to really hurt Indiana, but instead Indiana was able to
Speaker 4: win it without him. And yet now you have three
Speaker 4: returning starters up front on one of the tougher defensive
Speaker 4: lines in the country. You have you know, some really
Speaker 4: elite level linebackers coming back. A lot of the secondary,
Speaker 4: I mean there's I think Indiana could be just as
Speaker 4: good as it was last year because you know, even
Speaker 4: at the second level, I mean Aidan Fisher was an
Speaker 4: incredible leader and a tremendous tackler. But I think they
Speaker 4: may be a little more athletic now with Roe Hardy
Speaker 4: and Isaiah Jones. And in the secondary, D'Angelo Ponds did
Speaker 4: something that you know, it's hard to replicate. But they've
Speaker 4: still got some really good players. I think Jamari Sharp
Speaker 4: and and Amari Ferrell are as good as it gets
Speaker 4: and then bringing in guys like aj Harris from Penn
Speaker 4: State and Preston'sman from Wisconsin. They mean, these are really
Speaker 4: good Big Ten players. So I think that they are
Speaker 4: really they're right there, top three in the Big Ten
Speaker 4: to me, top three or four in the country, and
Speaker 4: they have every opportunity to go back to back this year.
Speaker 4: It's really going to be about could Josh Hoover make
Speaker 4: the plays in some of these critical games.
Speaker 1: So Scott Doctor Men of the Athletic Talks College Football
Speaker 1: and the Andy More Automotive Group Hotline. So we saw
Speaker 1: what Fernanda Mendoza did, Heisman Trophy winner, first overall selection
Speaker 1: going to the Raiders in the NFL draft. That is
Speaker 1: going to be a lot to live up to and
Speaker 1: hopefully from an AU angle, try to surpass. And you're
Speaker 1: number one for Josh Hoover. How do you view him
Speaker 1: going into this season? Some of the similarities if there
Speaker 1: are any, and really a multitude of differences between these
Speaker 1: two high level quarterbacks in Bloomington.
Speaker 4: I think you've got a guy who's very experienced, you know,
Speaker 4: has thrown the ball a lot at TCU. He's made
Speaker 4: quite a few mistakes, I would say, more so than
Speaker 4: what certainly that Indiana would want or that it will
Speaker 4: probably be coached out of him. The turnovers, but very
Speaker 4: I think he's got the potential to be more efficient,
Speaker 4: maybe if I shouldn't say more efficient, but efficient, maybe
Speaker 4: a little bit better runner at times. And he does
Speaker 4: have a pretty good assortment of wide receivers to choose from.
Speaker 3: Now.
Speaker 4: You know, Elijah Surat and and o Mark Cooper were
Speaker 4: tremendous and it's really it's hard to replace them even
Speaker 4: with good players. Charlie Becker though, had such a phenomenal
Speaker 4: postseason a late season, and you throw on Nick marsh
Speaker 4: who kind of underachieved at Michigan State but wasn't necessarily
Speaker 4: his fault. And I think he gets coached right in
Speaker 4: Indiana that it can really help Josh Hoover go from
Speaker 4: being a very good quarterback to now an elite level
Speaker 4: quarterback on par with the top three or four in
Speaker 4: the Big Ten and maybe you know, at or near
Speaker 4: the top. So I think it's it's hard to say
Speaker 4: he's going to equal what Fernando Mendoza did because he
Speaker 4: was so critical in those big moments last year, whether
Speaker 4: it was Penn State on the road, Iowa on the road.
Speaker 4: You know Layton in Miami. I mean his run for
Speaker 4: the touchdown where he got hit at the five and lunged,
Speaker 4: and I mean that goes down in Big Ten lore
Speaker 4: is one of the greatest touchdowns in Big Ten history.
Speaker 4: So I don't know that Josh Hoover can do that.
Speaker 4: I also don't think it's fair to expect him to
Speaker 4: do that. I think what you expect from him is efficiency,
Speaker 4: make the makeable plays, make some important plays when he can,
Speaker 4: and don't lose the game for you. And I think
Speaker 4: he's more than capable of meeting those challenges head.
Speaker 1: On Scott doctor Ben of the Athletic Talks College Football.
Speaker 1: He is kind of enough to join us on the
Speaker 1: Andy morrow Ato Moni Group potlines. We mentioned IU and
Speaker 1: rank six in the preseason Coaches Pull in the top
Speaker 1: twenty five, and the first five Ohio State, Oregon, Georgia,
Speaker 1: Texas and Notre Dame all have returning quarterbacks. So do
Speaker 1: you think ultimately is the best quarterback of those five
Speaker 1: teams I just mentioned in the Coaches Bowl.
Speaker 4: It's it's interesting to see what the upside is on
Speaker 4: arch Manning. I mean, we are all kind of expecting
Speaker 4: him to if he could be like Peyton or Eli,
Speaker 4: then he probably would be number one. I did my
Speaker 4: preseason Big Ten poll, and I did I put Julian
Speaker 4: Say in there because he was off the charts when
Speaker 4: it came to accuracy, and when you have those receivers,
Speaker 4: he's going to look like the best in the country.
Speaker 4: So I think I would probably put him at the top.
Speaker 4: As of now, Dante Moore has incredible talent. Would have
Speaker 4: been the number two pick. And I know there were
Speaker 4: a few people saying that he should have been number
Speaker 4: one over Mindo's. I don't buy that, but I think,
Speaker 4: you know, Dante Moore is is very is very good,
Speaker 4: and now I think CJ. Carr as the potential to be,
Speaker 4: you know, to take that next step and maybe put
Speaker 4: Notre Dame as a as a finalist. Again, I think
Speaker 4: they're in that category. But and then you know, of
Speaker 4: course Georgia, you know, Gunner stocked, and I think they're
Speaker 4: he's kind of a safer guy, but I would probably go.
Speaker 4: I'd probably go saying, as of right.
Speaker 1: Now, you look at the Big ten and you kind
Speaker 1: of you know Ohio State, Iowa, I should say Ohio
Speaker 1: State and and Iu. But what about teams with a
Speaker 1: new coach, like like Michigan White, Penn State. And then
Speaker 1: I want you to factor in a team like Washington,
Speaker 1: which a lot of people believe could be an ultimate
Speaker 1: dark horse that and you know an old standby is
Speaker 1: Kirk Ferrence and what he has done in Iowa City.
Speaker 1: It's a team that's often forgotten, but I know Kurt
Speaker 1: Signetti said that. You know they played them as tough
Speaker 1: as anybody a year ago. If you remember on the road,
Speaker 1: a chance to win an eye, you pulled that one
Speaker 1: out of the fire. You look at the big ten,
Speaker 1: especially with those two teams in mind, within the top
Speaker 1: twenty five.
Speaker 4: I think they're in the and this is where the
Speaker 4: top twenty five got it right, even though I think
Speaker 4: IU was the most underrated team at number six. I
Speaker 4: think that there is a top three, and then there's
Speaker 4: a next tier of about five teams that could be
Speaker 4: playoff caliber teams. And I think Ohio State and Oregon
Speaker 4: and Indiana not only will be playoff teams but at
Speaker 4: minimum hosting playoff games, and two of them might end
Speaker 4: up with buys. I think they're that good. Out of
Speaker 4: the next group, there's just everybody's got a question mark.
Speaker 4: I started Michigan where I think they have the potential
Speaker 4: to maybe be a team that could struggle. They have
Speaker 4: an incredibly difficult schedule that they open up with Oklahoma
Speaker 4: at home, that's a second game, and then their first
Speaker 4: Big Ten game is against Iowa. Later on in the
Speaker 4: season they play Indiana, Oregon and Ohio State, and you
Speaker 4: look at those types of games and if they go
Speaker 4: they could start two and two and lose to two
Speaker 4: pretty good teams in Oklahoma and Iowa, and their season
Speaker 4: is going to feel like it's lost. And Bryce Underwood
Speaker 4: has all the talent in the world, but you got
Speaker 4: to realize that at some point and a new coach,
Speaker 4: and Kyle Whittingham, I thought he was a little tone
Speaker 4: deaf and trying to understand what the Michigan had. State
Speaker 4: rivalry is all about. You can say all you want
Speaker 4: that there shouldn't be hate in sports, but there is
Speaker 4: hate in that rivalry, so I think you kind of
Speaker 4: have to look that way. Penn State is the team
Speaker 4: that I think I would put in that fourth spot
Speaker 4: because they really weren't that bad last year. There were
Speaker 4: seven and six fired their coach mid season, But if
Speaker 4: you look five of their losses brought were by one score.
Speaker 4: As we know, IU went right down to the wire there.
Speaker 4: They lost by a point. At Iowa they had some
Speaker 4: bad losses to Northwestern and UCLA that were by a
Speaker 4: couple of points. And so I think when you bring
Speaker 4: in Matt Campbell, who is an outstanding coach who really
Speaker 4: broke the ceiling at Iowa State and brought twenty four players,
Speaker 4: and a lot of them are really good players, I think,
Speaker 4: and they're coupled with their schedule, I think the nitty
Speaker 4: Lyons have the chance to be in the playoff discussion,
Speaker 4: win double digit games and then out of the rest.
Speaker 4: Washington I'm curious about, you know, the demand Williams flirtation
Speaker 4: with LSU before he got scolded and sent back to
Speaker 4: the corner, and you know how much does that play
Speaker 4: out for them? USC has a really good offense, you know,
Speaker 4: but it's it's an important time for Lincoln Riley, you know,
Speaker 4: if he doesn't get over the top, if they don't
Speaker 4: win nine or ten games and get to the playoff,
Speaker 4: I mean, is it kind of exhausted his time there?
Speaker 4: And Iowa is an intriguing team because they are very physical.
Speaker 4: They have two big question marks to me, which is quarterback.
Speaker 4: They've got a competition there that'll go all the way
Speaker 4: to the beginning of the season, and their defensive line
Speaker 4: needs to be replaced. But other than that, I think
Speaker 4: the Hawkeys will be again a really tough out at
Speaker 4: a minimum, and they only have six guys with the
Speaker 4: max out there eligibility this year, so they've got a
Speaker 4: two or three year push there for Kirk Farrence who
Speaker 4: seemingly it's younger as he gets older, and you know,
Speaker 4: so you know, I think out of that group, I
Speaker 4: like Penn State probably the most to push for the postseason,
Speaker 4: but I are the playoff but I think the rest
Speaker 4: have some key players that can really put them in
Speaker 4: that position.
Speaker 1: Scott is Lane Kiffin is going to supply more in
Speaker 1: the category of normalcy in soap opera or winning this season.
Speaker 4: Well, you want to talk about overrated, you know, starting
Speaker 4: the year thirteenth when he went seven and six last
Speaker 4: year and you have all these new players and a
Speaker 4: lot of players left. That's that's a testament to the
Speaker 4: storyline as it is more than the actuality. I mean,
Speaker 4: they have incredible talent, as they always do with LSU,
Speaker 4: and I think he'll win, but I don't know about
Speaker 4: right away. I mean that Week three game. I don't
Speaker 4: know that we've seen many games that will have that
Speaker 4: kind of a grudge match, you know, in a long
Speaker 4: long time with you know, with Lane going back to
Speaker 4: Old Miss, and there's gonna be a lot of you know,
Speaker 4: just like there was with him at Old Miss, but
Speaker 4: now even doubly so I think there's gonna be a
Speaker 4: lot of teams gunning for him. And I don't know
Speaker 4: if this year would be the year that they kind
Speaker 4: of break through, but you know, strange things happen in
Speaker 4: that part of the country. So I makes just to
Speaker 4: see if Sam Levitt can can be the cred of
Speaker 4: quarterback that he wants and can win against Old Miss
Speaker 4: in Texas A and m early, because if they can,
Speaker 4: then they might start the year eight to zero before
Speaker 4: they get into a really tough part of their schedule.
Speaker 1: If if you have the opportunity to change anything about
Speaker 1: college football right now, and obviously around here, most IU
Speaker 1: fans would not want to change anything about it, considering
Speaker 1: the results that they have received in the past two years.
Speaker 1: But how would you approach it moving forward? What is best?
Speaker 1: Whether it comes down to the College Football Playoff, or
Speaker 1: do they need additional teams or the whole scheduling criticism
Speaker 1: that's out there as well, the conferences, all of this,
Speaker 1: what would you do to, in your belief, improve college
Speaker 1: football moving forward?
Speaker 4: I think if you start with I'm going to set
Speaker 4: aside everything with the bill through Congress and all the
Speaker 4: issues associated with NIL and everything is that, first of all,
Speaker 4: thet'll bore everybody listening to this, and second of all,
Speaker 4: it is just so comprehensive in detailed it would be
Speaker 4: really hard to really go into depth on that. But
Speaker 4: I'll say for the sport itself, I'm one of maybe
Speaker 4: the very few guys in media who is absolutely a
Speaker 4: proponent of the twenty fourteen playoff. And the reason why
Speaker 4: is that as these conferences have grown and there's eighteen
Speaker 4: teams in the Big Ten, there's sixteen and at least
Speaker 4: sixteen and the other three major conferences, that schedules can
Speaker 4: really determine how teams perform and what their record is
Speaker 4: and whether or not they can get to the postseason.
Speaker 4: I mean, I you caught a lot of flak a
Speaker 4: couple of years ago because of a somewhat easier Big
Speaker 4: Ten schedule really wasn't their fault. I mean, they played
Speaker 4: both championship finalists from the year before, but neither of
Speaker 4: them really were good. But when you play the these
Speaker 4: such strange schedules, and you have Ohio State, whose teams
Speaker 4: were fifty one and thirty last year and in Big
Speaker 4: Ten play just an incredible schedule versus Indiana versus say,
Speaker 4: Penn State, which is thirty three and forty eight in
Speaker 4: the Big Ten. So you know there's such discrepancy. They
Speaker 4: could have the same record but be vastly different. So
Speaker 4: I like the thought of a twenty four team playoff
Speaker 4: because it provides those teams that maybe either lose a
Speaker 4: couple of games or just have an incredibly difficult schedule
Speaker 4: a chance to compete and I think and win in
Speaker 4: the postseason. I look at Iowa being one of those.
Speaker 4: I mean, last year went right to the wire with Indiana,
Speaker 4: right to the wire with Oregon and USC and Iowa
Speaker 4: State I've lost four games by fifteen points. If they
Speaker 4: were going to get in the tournament, they would have
Speaker 4: been a really tough out. And when you start to
Speaker 4: look at kind of how the field shook out last
Speaker 4: year with three weeks left, in the regular season, there
Speaker 4: were thirty five Power Conference teams with three losses or less,
Speaker 4: and essentially you took the top basically ten or nine
Speaker 4: out of the first twelve for the Power conferences and
Speaker 4: put them in the playoff because they really didn't fall
Speaker 4: and everybody else is just playing for a bowl game. Well,
Speaker 4: we're all now looking in a different way and so
Speaker 4: and then likewise, you get to the final weekend, there
Speaker 4: have been ten different games that not only would have
Speaker 4: been able to determine the field, but who was in
Speaker 4: the field if they would have gone in a twenty
Speaker 4: fourteen playoff last year. So you've had excitement, you add suspense,
Speaker 4: you add games that maybe would be in like Big
Speaker 4: ten country determining, Okay, who's going to go to Tampa
Speaker 4: and who's going to go to Charlotte Instead, now you're going, oh,
Speaker 4: these two seven and three teams are playing for the
Speaker 4: chance to go to the playoff, and people are going
Speaker 4: to go and watch and be more excited for it,
Speaker 4: and those programs have something to play for. So that's
Speaker 4: why I'm more of a proponent of it. I understand
Speaker 4: the past, I love it, I love hit the history
Speaker 4: of college football, but we've changed. I mean, it's not
Speaker 4: a bowl based system anymore, playoff based system. And I
Speaker 4: think having it in tears, eight teams get buys, eight
Speaker 4: teams get home games, eight teams get road games to
Speaker 4: start it off, I think that's a fair way to decide.
Speaker 1: It all, right, final things, Scott, Brian Haynes, Mike Shanahan.
Speaker 1: That's defensive coordinator, offensive coordinator, and I you are they
Speaker 1: the two best coordinators on a team in college football?
Speaker 1: And then how much longer would you maintain they could
Speaker 1: stay in Bloomington before they end up getting sided for
Speaker 1: a head coaching jobs somewhere around college football.
Speaker 4: That's a great question. I think right now you have
Speaker 4: to say they're the best combination. You know, you could
Speaker 4: make different arguments over who's the best coordinator and whether
Speaker 4: or not Briant Haynes is better than say Phil Parker
Speaker 4: or somebody else Jim Knowles in the game. Then that
Speaker 4: those are fair discussions. But I think collectively they are
Speaker 4: the best. They proved it. I think the one thing
Speaker 4: everybody says about I you they gloss over the This
Speaker 4: was one of the most fundamentally sound teams on both
Speaker 4: sides of the line of scrimmage that we've ever seen.
Speaker 4: And that's one of the things you don't really see
Speaker 4: with coaches coming in like the way Sig did you
Speaker 4: see it more like what Kevin Wilson did, which was
Speaker 4: really developed the offense, but the defense wasn't there. He
Speaker 4: was able to do both parts because they were so
Speaker 4: fundamentally and developmentally sound. So as far as how long
Speaker 4: can they be there, you know, somebody is going to
Speaker 4: come in with a big offer, and it might be
Speaker 4: this year, maybe it's a year down the road, and
Speaker 4: it's going to be up to them to decide whether
Speaker 4: that's the type of you know, team that they want
Speaker 4: to you know, jump onto. Some people just want to
Speaker 4: be head coaches. Other people want to be head coaches
Speaker 4: with a chance to win because and most of the
Speaker 4: time when coaches leave it's because they weren't successful enough
Speaker 4: and so or should I say, you know, hiring new coach.
Speaker 4: So I think it's going to be up to them
Speaker 4: as to hey, can if I go to this job
Speaker 4: at this school, can I build it quickly through an
Speaker 4: il and all those funds? But I think they can
Speaker 4: be patient because now he has proven to be outstanding
Speaker 4: and uh, you know, and they're willing to pay, which
Speaker 4: I think was really important for them, both their coaching
Speaker 4: staff and through in il and why they're going to
Speaker 4: be successful not only last year this year, but also
Speaker 4: beyond that.
Speaker 1: Is Scott Doctrman of the Athletic National College Football Reporter,
Speaker 1: on the Andy Moore Automotive Group plotline. Scott, that was
Speaker 1: fantastic and we're going to utilize you, if you don't mind,
Speaker 1: as a valued resource over the course of this college
Speaker 1: football season. Man, that's good stuff. Thank you, thank you
Speaker 1: for having me ape. We don't mind, Are you okay
Speaker 1: with being the valued resource that we're looking for here?
Speaker 4: I can help you out you bet.
Speaker 1: I'll appreciate you. Ab out. Thank you, Scott, Appreciate you,
Speaker 1: Scott Doctorman. That's a shout out right there to Caleb
Speaker 1: who found Scott. That is well done.
Speaker 6: Shout out to Scott because I was awful with getting
Speaker 6: him on the zoom and he was very gracious.
Speaker 1: Well and Scott was good, right, he was great. Hey.
Speaker 1: By the way, So Mike Brown has done whatever he
Speaker 1: has done, the governor of Indiana to make sure that
Speaker 1: gas price is maintained and they don't elevate even more.
Speaker 1: I should mention, and he said, hey, you and I
Speaker 1: have to go out and drink sometime. I said, hey,
Speaker 1: you had me a drink. See, I don't give a
Speaker 1: crap about politics, you know me. I'll have cocktails and beers,
Speaker 1: Caleb with anybody. Anybody don't care about politics, but I
Speaker 1: do want free gas at some point. Actually he walked by,
Speaker 1: he was on with Hammer and Nigel, and we are
Speaker 1: right here where everybody enters after they walk right by
Speaker 1: the window. So that's why I brought all that up.
Speaker 1: But yeah, cocktails and beers, and he brought up the Snitzelbank.
Speaker 1: Obviously he's from Dubois County two, so I'm also from
Speaker 1: southern Indiana. He brought up the Snitzelbank and shout out
Speaker 1: to Allen and the NINTA Bank. You know, I love that.
Speaker 1: But I don't know if people in and around Jasper,
Speaker 1: if you're from Jasper, have you ever been to Snaps.
Speaker 1: Snaps is just a little bit north of the Snitzer Bank.
Speaker 1: Great place to go. You can get beer st dines
Speaker 1: on the wall, your own beer styne on the wall
Speaker 1: of Snaps. Plus they have this they have Ahi tuna
Speaker 1: on the menu. Buddy, what about you and ahi tuna.
Speaker 6: I can't say I'm too well versed in there.
Speaker 1: But one of these days you will.
Speaker 4: I would love to try.
Speaker 1: If you hang with me long enough, you will let
Speaker 1: me tell you love it. Ah He tuna, buddy, ah
Speaker 1: he tuna. Okay, Yeah, and Scott was really good now.
Speaker 1: I could not tell if he was enthusiastic about being
Speaker 1: our go to guy or one of our go to
Speaker 1: guys or less than enthusiastic.
Speaker 6: Is better than he has been this week with some
Speaker 6: of those questions you've thrown at people like we talked
Speaker 6: about yesterday, Ben Solac not not going to go out
Speaker 6: and drink with you.
Speaker 1: So I'm looking at Solac right now. Yeah, he's there's
Speaker 1: somebody that looks like that. He would say, Yeah, I
Speaker 1: don't know about going out and drinking week nice here
Speaker 1: he does. He looks like my son. He does get those.
Speaker 5: Jokes a lot.
Speaker 1: I'm sure, I'm sure you don't look like the same
Speaker 1: age