1 00:00:01,440 --> 00:00:06,279 Speaker 1: Hammer and Nigel Can you believe these characters are weirdos? 2 00:00:07,200 --> 00:00:09,800 Speaker 2: Yesterday's attack was anti Semitism. 3 00:00:10,360 --> 00:00:12,479 Speaker 1: It was hate, plain and simple. 4 00:00:13,200 --> 00:00:15,800 Speaker 2: We will fight this ancient and rampant evil. 5 00:00:16,320 --> 00:00:18,880 Speaker 1: We will stand together as we do it, and we 6 00:00:18,960 --> 00:00:24,200 Speaker 1: will call it out. Yeah, Governor Whitmer, But what else 7 00:00:24,360 --> 00:00:29,159 Speaker 1: was it that was a Michigan Governor Whitmer yesterday on 8 00:00:29,280 --> 00:00:34,800 Speaker 1: the attack at the synagogue in Michigan. Quote again, yesterday's 9 00:00:34,800 --> 00:00:38,919 Speaker 1: attack was anti Semitism. It was hate, plain and simple. 10 00:00:38,800 --> 00:00:39,640 Speaker 2: Which is true. 11 00:00:40,240 --> 00:00:46,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, Now, can you kind of do the Islamic extremism 12 00:00:46,640 --> 00:00:50,000 Speaker 1: that led to the attack, which also happened in Virginia 13 00:00:50,760 --> 00:00:56,800 Speaker 1: and New York City, Several different terrorist attacks happening across 14 00:00:56,840 --> 00:01:00,639 Speaker 1: this country over the past few days, happening in Canada, 15 00:01:01,120 --> 00:01:06,920 Speaker 1: happening at US embassies and foreign countries. Can we just 16 00:01:07,240 --> 00:01:11,200 Speaker 1: you know, speak plainly about the reason behind the attack. 17 00:01:11,840 --> 00:01:14,679 Speaker 2: There's a trend like you know me, I'm a gambler, 18 00:01:14,800 --> 00:01:18,400 Speaker 2: I'm a sports better and we look at trends. Sometimes 19 00:01:18,680 --> 00:01:22,200 Speaker 2: when the Colts go to Jacksonville, there's a trend of 20 00:01:22,240 --> 00:01:25,880 Speaker 2: them playing like crap and not winning. And in this 21 00:01:26,080 --> 00:01:30,679 Speaker 2: case here, there seems to be a certain ideological belief 22 00:01:31,040 --> 00:01:35,319 Speaker 2: behind all of these attacks. Nige. Now, I promise you 23 00:01:35,840 --> 00:01:40,840 Speaker 2: had this been some maga hat wearing whitey, we would 24 00:01:40,880 --> 00:01:45,440 Speaker 2: be hearing all about it. But because it's Islamic extremism, 25 00:01:46,480 --> 00:01:47,760 Speaker 2: everybody's afraid to say it. 26 00:01:48,000 --> 00:01:52,320 Speaker 1: The attacks in New York City outside the Mayor's house 27 00:01:52,720 --> 00:01:56,720 Speaker 1: was blamed on white supremacy. Even CNN went on the air, 28 00:01:56,840 --> 00:02:00,320 Speaker 1: I said, oh, they were attacking the mayor. Those guys 29 00:02:00,320 --> 00:02:03,760 Speaker 1: that threw the bombs with the screws and the nails 30 00:02:03,760 --> 00:02:06,240 Speaker 1: and the chemicals in it. That was, and they wanted 31 00:02:06,240 --> 00:02:09,200 Speaker 1: it to be bigger than the Boston marathon bombings. That was. 32 00:02:09,560 --> 00:02:12,640 Speaker 1: That was because of the mayor. Right now, even though there. 33 00:02:12,560 --> 00:02:16,160 Speaker 2: Was a Muslim pledge, their loyalty to isis according to 34 00:02:16,200 --> 00:02:19,639 Speaker 2: the mayor. According to some news networks, there's no difference 35 00:02:19,680 --> 00:02:22,000 Speaker 2: between them and somebody you would see at a kid 36 00:02:22,080 --> 00:02:27,440 Speaker 2: rock concert. They're the same person. Apparently, Well not really. 37 00:02:27,760 --> 00:02:29,080 Speaker 2: Why don't you give me a little tale of the 38 00:02:29,080 --> 00:02:31,720 Speaker 2: tape here, give me a rundown on what we know 39 00:02:32,320 --> 00:02:34,040 Speaker 2: about some of these suspects. 40 00:02:34,080 --> 00:02:38,680 Speaker 1: Well, let's let's go with the synagogue attack suspect in Michigan, 41 00:02:38,800 --> 00:02:46,440 Speaker 1: Mohammed Gazali born in Lebanon. He became a naturalized US 42 00:02:46,440 --> 00:02:52,959 Speaker 1: citizen immigrated in twenty eleven. Some woman US citizen married 43 00:02:53,040 --> 00:02:55,640 Speaker 1: him so he was able to come here. Lives in 44 00:02:55,720 --> 00:03:01,639 Speaker 1: Dearborn Heights, Michigan, which heavily populated Muslim area. Correct, And 45 00:03:01,760 --> 00:03:04,200 Speaker 1: he's the one that drove the truck into the temple 46 00:03:04,680 --> 00:03:08,600 Speaker 1: in the synagogue and West Bloomfield, armed with a rifle, 47 00:03:09,400 --> 00:03:14,880 Speaker 1: exchange gunfire with security, was put down by a security guard, 48 00:03:15,000 --> 00:03:17,560 Speaker 1: thank god, killed him in the confrontation. This was also 49 00:03:17,639 --> 00:03:22,800 Speaker 1: a school and again, thank god, there were no kids 50 00:03:22,919 --> 00:03:24,880 Speaker 1: present at the time, so. 51 00:03:24,880 --> 00:03:27,320 Speaker 2: There was a good guy with a gun that eliminated 52 00:03:27,360 --> 00:03:27,840 Speaker 2: a threat. 53 00:03:28,480 --> 00:03:33,680 Speaker 1: Authorities. Oh yeah, imagine that at a safe space. Authorities 54 00:03:33,720 --> 00:03:37,800 Speaker 1: are investigating and they are calling it a targeted act 55 00:03:37,840 --> 00:03:40,160 Speaker 1: of violence against the Jewish community. 56 00:03:40,240 --> 00:03:44,720 Speaker 2: Well, sure, absolutely it is. So that's the Michigan one. 57 00:03:45,080 --> 00:03:47,480 Speaker 2: Now let's make sure we know which ones we're talking about, 58 00:03:47,480 --> 00:03:50,800 Speaker 2: because it's been a pretty chaotic forty eight to seventy 59 00:03:50,840 --> 00:03:54,280 Speaker 2: two hours in terms of anti Semitic radical Islamic attacks. 60 00:03:54,880 --> 00:03:58,920 Speaker 1: The guy at the Old Dominion University in Virginia, the 61 00:03:58,960 --> 00:04:05,920 Speaker 1: shooting suspect, also named Mohammad Baylor Jala. I'm sorry if 62 00:04:05,960 --> 00:04:08,680 Speaker 1: I'm getting the last name wrong. He's dead, so I 63 00:04:08,800 --> 00:04:14,000 Speaker 1: kiss I could care less. Born in Sierra Leone, naturalized 64 00:04:14,120 --> 00:04:21,360 Speaker 1: US citizen, proudly serve the Army National Guard in two 65 00:04:21,360 --> 00:04:26,279 Speaker 1: thousand and nine twenty sixteen, but convicted in twenty seventeen 66 00:04:26,320 --> 00:04:31,000 Speaker 1: hammer for attempting to provide material support to ISIS. So 67 00:04:31,040 --> 00:04:36,599 Speaker 1: he was supporting ISIS, providing information to ISIS. Sentenced to 68 00:04:36,640 --> 00:04:42,360 Speaker 1: eleven years. But it's interesting that he was released from 69 00:04:42,440 --> 00:04:47,200 Speaker 1: prison in December of twenty twenty four. So wait convicted 70 00:04:47,360 --> 00:04:56,040 Speaker 1: in twenty seventeen supporting and working with ISIS, but released 71 00:04:56,040 --> 00:04:58,840 Speaker 1: from prison in December of twenty twenty four. Does that 72 00:04:58,880 --> 00:05:02,200 Speaker 1: sound like years in federal prisons? Youth? Does that happening? 73 00:05:02,440 --> 00:05:06,080 Speaker 2: I'm no math major Nige, but that seems a little short. 74 00:05:06,800 --> 00:05:07,680 Speaker 2: Seems a little short. 75 00:05:07,880 --> 00:05:13,040 Speaker 1: Like to understand why this guy, this guy shouldn't have 76 00:05:13,080 --> 00:05:15,240 Speaker 1: been out of jail. Somebody's dead because of him. 77 00:05:15,320 --> 00:05:19,839 Speaker 2: Right, If you're giving information to ISIS, that's not the 78 00:05:19,880 --> 00:05:22,560 Speaker 2: same as you are trying to steal a TV from 79 00:05:22,600 --> 00:05:25,039 Speaker 2: best Buy. I think there's a little difference there. 80 00:05:25,200 --> 00:05:29,200 Speaker 1: And he shouted, well, what do you know, alu akbar 81 00:05:29,800 --> 00:05:34,560 Speaker 1: huh before opening fire at the campus of Old Dominion. 82 00:05:34,800 --> 00:05:37,000 Speaker 2: Have we heard from the mayor of New York City 83 00:05:37,160 --> 00:05:40,120 Speaker 2: talking about how this was probably white supremacism. 84 00:05:39,480 --> 00:05:45,520 Speaker 1: Yet, surprisingly no. But the day is still young. 85 00:05:45,720 --> 00:05:49,800 Speaker 2: And I hate the fact that he was targeting these people, 86 00:05:50,240 --> 00:05:54,359 Speaker 2: students on campus that were associated with the armed Forces 87 00:05:54,400 --> 00:05:58,320 Speaker 2: the ROTC, and one of the instructors lost their life. 88 00:05:58,520 --> 00:06:02,680 Speaker 2: I've seen his picture. I absolutely hate this. But on 89 00:06:02,720 --> 00:06:06,200 Speaker 2: the other hand, I love that the students were the 90 00:06:06,200 --> 00:06:09,440 Speaker 2: ones that responded. If you don't know the story the 91 00:06:09,600 --> 00:06:13,680 Speaker 2: ROTC cadets at Old Dominion, they were the ones that 92 00:06:13,839 --> 00:06:16,880 Speaker 2: charged this dude. Now he still had the gun, he 93 00:06:17,000 --> 00:06:20,120 Speaker 2: was still firing, he had still killed people at this point. 94 00:06:20,520 --> 00:06:24,479 Speaker 2: They did not use a gun. They beat the hell 95 00:06:24,520 --> 00:06:28,280 Speaker 2: out of him. They stabbed him to death. They eliminated 96 00:06:28,520 --> 00:06:32,200 Speaker 2: the threat. That's pretty badass by a group of college 97 00:06:32,240 --> 00:06:33,760 Speaker 2: students on a campus. 98 00:06:34,000 --> 00:06:37,279 Speaker 1: Yet he wasn't shot. The attacker or the assailant was 99 00:06:37,320 --> 00:06:43,039 Speaker 1: not shot to death. He was rendered incapacitated. I think 100 00:06:43,080 --> 00:06:46,960 Speaker 1: I heard, uh, maybe I'm paraphrasing there an FBI agent 101 00:06:47,040 --> 00:06:53,840 Speaker 1: rendered incapacitated by rot cadet ROTC cadets. It was I 102 00:06:53,960 --> 00:06:57,000 Speaker 1: love that. I hate that somebody lost. That is awesome, 103 00:06:57,160 --> 00:06:59,920 Speaker 1: and I hate that we're going to see more of that, 104 00:07:00,720 --> 00:07:03,839 Speaker 1: absolutely more. Head on a swivel. 105 00:07:03,880 --> 00:07:07,560 Speaker 2: And remember, if you see something, say something, it doesn't 106 00:07:07,600 --> 00:07:11,440 Speaker 2: make you some sort of ist for wondering if something 107 00:07:11,480 --> 00:07:14,440 Speaker 2: doesn't look right. If somebody wants to say, well, you're 108 00:07:14,440 --> 00:07:17,960 Speaker 2: being homophobic, or you're being islamophobic, or you're being some 109 00:07:18,000 --> 00:07:22,400 Speaker 2: sort of ist, bite me. Nobody cares anymore. Do you 110 00:07:22,600 --> 00:07:26,040 Speaker 2: care what the perpetually offended crowd thinks of you? I know, 111 00:07:26,120 --> 00:07:29,760 Speaker 2: I sure as hell don't, so do you, because right 112 00:07:29,800 --> 00:07:33,600 Speaker 2: now it's got to be head on a swivel time. Man. Now, look, 113 00:07:33,800 --> 00:07:38,160 Speaker 2: I'm not saying be overly aggressive and be a lunatic, 114 00:07:38,560 --> 00:07:41,600 Speaker 2: but just be aware of your surroundings. If you're going 115 00:07:41,600 --> 00:07:44,680 Speaker 2: out somewhere, take a look around, see where your exits are. 116 00:07:44,880 --> 00:07:47,160 Speaker 2: Have a game plan just in case things get a 117 00:07:47,160 --> 00:07:47,760 Speaker 2: little sideway. 118 00:07:47,880 --> 00:07:51,680 Speaker 1: Always do. And it's kind of depressing that I have 119 00:07:51,760 --> 00:07:55,000 Speaker 1: to do that, especially when I'm walking around with my 120 00:07:55,120 --> 00:07:59,120 Speaker 1: kids downtown or someplace like that. But it's also smart, 121 00:07:59,680 --> 00:08:04,680 Speaker 1: right I say depressing, it's it's just, uh, it's disappointing 122 00:08:05,880 --> 00:08:07,640 Speaker 1: that you have to think that way. I have to 123 00:08:07,680 --> 00:08:08,320 Speaker 1: think that way. 124 00:08:08,960 --> 00:08:13,360 Speaker 2: But man, these ROTC kids from Old Dominion. What a 125 00:08:13,360 --> 00:08:15,560 Speaker 2: group of American heroes. They saved lives. 126 00:08:15,640 --> 00:08:20,080 Speaker 1: Put that guy down with their fists and do you 127 00:08:20,120 --> 00:08:21,000 Speaker 1: say stab. 128 00:08:20,840 --> 00:08:22,800 Speaker 2: There was a knife? Yeah, okay, one of them had 129 00:08:22,800 --> 00:08:26,640 Speaker 2: a blade of some kind and they eliminated the threat. 130 00:08:26,760 --> 00:08:32,480 Speaker 2: Well bye, absolutely, Like this is the stuff that gives 131 00:08:32,520 --> 00:08:35,760 Speaker 2: you faith in America, right, yeah, like without sounding like 132 00:08:36,120 --> 00:08:38,920 Speaker 2: grumpy old man. You know, I'm forty eight years old, 133 00:08:38,920 --> 00:08:42,920 Speaker 2: you're forty nine, right, without sounding like the grumpy old men. 134 00:08:43,320 --> 00:08:45,280 Speaker 2: You know, we kind of look at the younger generation 135 00:08:45,400 --> 00:08:48,679 Speaker 2: of you have to be reminded not to eat tide pods. 136 00:08:48,720 --> 00:08:50,680 Speaker 2: You don't get to tell us what to do. But 137 00:08:50,760 --> 00:08:53,120 Speaker 2: every once in a while you get a reminder. Like 138 00:08:53,160 --> 00:08:56,080 Speaker 2: an Operation Midnight Hammer. There was a twenty year old 139 00:08:56,320 --> 00:08:58,600 Speaker 2: that was taking part in like some of the most 140 00:08:58,600 --> 00:09:02,760 Speaker 2: extreme parts of that operation. Twenty years old hanging out 141 00:09:02,760 --> 00:09:05,520 Speaker 2: with some of the best and most elite military badasses 142 00:09:05,559 --> 00:09:10,040 Speaker 2: in the world. And here these ROTC cadets, who did 143 00:09:10,080 --> 00:09:14,240 Speaker 2: not use a firearm, brought down an armed suspect and 144 00:09:14,480 --> 00:09:17,240 Speaker 2: killed him. That's the kind of stuff that gives you 145 00:09:17,280 --> 00:09:18,160 Speaker 2: faith in America.