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Speaker 1: He brings a lot to the table and entering the

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Speaker 1: Is he requesting a trade because he truly is over

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Speaker 1: But there are certain things that you look at all

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Speaker 5: don't think we're having this discussion. But another aspect of

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Speaker 1: Well, here's the thing. Do you think Washington does that?

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Speaker 3: But Ala Pierce saw sweat a contract here, right, So.

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Speaker 1: But it does feel to me like if you were

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Speaker 5: I was gonna say, I think that Pierce no okate

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Speaker 2: And he's got three more years team control.

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Speaker 5: But they've got to look at areas in which they

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Speaker 5: And I just feel like if Pierce is going to,

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Speaker 5: It's interesting when you talk about Alec Pierce. I think

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and there's no question Jake that the Fever need

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Speaker 1: Speaking of chemistry coming together, I noticed last night the

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Speaker 1: By the way Pat I aired, I completely forgot it

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Speaker 1: See, this is a zero surprise to me, like zero surprise, right,

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Speaker 3: Thank you, great story.

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Speaker 4: I'll give him that.

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Speaker 1: Pat Boyling is our guest talking about the fever all

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Speaker 4: This is an eye on game, so we don't have it.

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Speaker 4: The radio, Dallas is a really interesting scene. You know,

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Speaker 3: So I do think.

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Speaker 1: Buddy Pat Boylan, of course you see him for the

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Speaker 1: the program last night. I thought it was very cool

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Speaker 1: fans to be able to go out and enjoy.

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Speaker 7: I'll start here going from Bob Cavoyan to Kevin Bowen's

437
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Speaker 7: like Peyton Manning to you know, whatever I would look

438
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Speaker 7: like at quarterback. I'll try my best to you know,

439
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Speaker 7: take that torch.

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Speaker 6: But yeah, I thought last night was awesome.

441
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Speaker 7: I thought of you were agran park. I thought you

442
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Speaker 7: got a great bang for your buck. I thought it

443
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Speaker 7: was one of the more entertaining practices. Frankly, I've ever

444
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Speaker 7: seen just a ton of eleven on eleven activity that

445
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Speaker 7: threw the ball around the yard and some big plays

446
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Speaker 7: and then you had a really fun.

447
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Speaker 8: Fireworks show, little light show in the skies of Westfield.

448
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Speaker 8: So I thought it was really well executed. And I

449
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Speaker 8: know I've probably saw this before, but I think the

450
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Speaker 8: Colts just.

451
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Speaker 7: Such an out standing job a training camp. Teams just

452
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Speaker 7: don't do this anymore in the NFL.

453
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Speaker 6: And it's a great facility up there, it's.

454
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Speaker 7: Easy to get to, there's plenty of parking, it's super affordable.

455
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Speaker 6: Teams are don't do that anymore. So yeah, I thought

456
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Speaker 6: it was an awesome night.

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Speaker 7: Up and left field.

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Speaker 1: Okay, I'll give you Kevin the pick here pace or

459
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Speaker 1: I'm looking at a guy in a pacer shit. Maybe

460
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Speaker 1: think Colts currently on the roster or players that people

461
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Speaker 1: are gonna want on the Colts roster.

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Speaker 3: We're gonna discuss both. Which one do you want to

463
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Speaker 3: lead with?

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Speaker 7: Let's go the latter.

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Speaker 1: Okay, players that people would like to see on the roster.

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Speaker 1: I'll begin with not the one you think I'm gonna

467
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Speaker 1: ask about, and that's Michael Parsons, fifty two and a

468
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Speaker 1: half sacks, twenty six years old, two time you know,

469
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Speaker 1: pro bowler, All Pro Player, defensive Rookie of the Year,

470
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Speaker 1: coming out of college. And apparently things are getting icy

471
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Speaker 1: in Dallas. Now, something might have happened this afternoon since

472
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Speaker 1: I got on that. I'm unaware and by no means

473
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Speaker 1: have I heard any connection to Indianapolis and Michael parson

474
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Speaker 1: since at all. But if he is a player that

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Speaker 1: has suddenly made available, is he one that a the

476
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Speaker 1: Colts would take a look at? And b is it

477
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Speaker 1: possible that the Colts internally are starting to see glimpses

478
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Speaker 1: of the fact that he might not be necessary.

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Speaker 3: Well, how may I.

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Speaker 6: Think it's very premature to say the last part just

481
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Speaker 6: because Michael Parks.

482
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Speaker 7: Is done and on Sundays, you know, for several years now.

483
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Speaker 6: Yeah, obviously, play like.

484
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Speaker 7: Michael Parkers could do wonders for your football team. But

485
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Speaker 7: you know, given how the Colts typically operate, I would venture.

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Speaker 6: To guess it would be a no. I don't again

487
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Speaker 6: want to act like Putty.

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Speaker 3: Pay and my House New Law too and J. C.

489
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Speaker 7: Tuli Malau would create a situation where no, you know,

490
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Speaker 7: we we feel like that we're good in this situation.

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Speaker 7: I just you know, when you think about draft that conversation,

492
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Speaker 7: you think about how much money would be, you think

493
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Speaker 7: about the realistic nature.

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Speaker 6: I don't I don't see that.

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Speaker 7: I guess s beeing realistic is probably where I would

496
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Speaker 7: go more than anything. But yeah, if they can get

497
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Speaker 7: one of especially Laws who were paid well, I've had

498
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Speaker 7: really good nights last night, particularly a lot too. If

499
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Speaker 7: they can get either of them even sniffed, you know,

500
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Speaker 7: half of what Michael Parsons has done so far, that'd

501
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Speaker 7: be really the best edge erustion season they've had since

502
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Speaker 7: Robert Mathis hung it up.

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Speaker 3: You know, the latter part of a lot too.

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Speaker 1: I do feel Kevin pretty good about because when I

505
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Speaker 1: look at a year ago, and I know that because

506
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Speaker 1: of where he was drafted, because of the praise at

507
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Speaker 1: which he was drafted, the first defensive player drafted. You know,

508
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Speaker 1: people expect to pop out numbers right away. But even

509
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Speaker 1: if you look at well, for that matter, both Breenie

510
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Speaker 1: and mathis. You know, that's a position that I think

511
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Speaker 1: the timing takes a while of just knowing, like you know,

512
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Speaker 1: jumping arounte or learning a move, that kind of thing.

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Speaker 3: I think sometimes it takes a year or so.

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Speaker 1: Aside from the obvious, which is he was at the quarterback.

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Speaker 1: What looks different about lat two than say a year

516
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Speaker 1: ago in terms of like comfort level or even just

517
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Speaker 1: the way in which he's playing.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I don't think there was like massive like body

519
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Speaker 7: you know, like like a serious focus. You know, hey,

520
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Speaker 7: I'm gonna gain x amount of muscle or lose x

521
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Speaker 7: amount of what like. I don't think there was either

522
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Speaker 7: that from a year one of years too. You know,

523
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Speaker 7: I don't know how much you would admit this, but

524
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Speaker 7: it felt like he hit a rookie wall last year.

525
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Speaker 7: If you look at the last handful of games. It

526
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Speaker 7: just wasn't near the same sort of production that he

527
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Speaker 7: could produced in the first ten or twelve. And you know, obviously,

528
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Speaker 7: going for a college season which is right at twelve

529
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Speaker 7: to the full season which is you know, seventeen, that's

530
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Speaker 7: not the most shocking thing in the world. So you know,

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Speaker 7: is it from whatever conditioning standpoint that maybe he can

532
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Speaker 7: get to that mark. I thought what was impressive, you know,

533
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Speaker 7: from him last night is him he'd Braden Smith several times.

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Speaker 7: And you know at UCLA he showcased the ability to

535
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Speaker 7: rush from both sides. That's not you know, a given

536
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Speaker 7: When you get a lot of these college rushers, you know,

537
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Speaker 7: they might just be, hey, I come up the right

538
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Speaker 7: side or I come off the left side, and I

539
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Speaker 7: don't really have a whole lot of if you flip

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Speaker 7: who seems to have a little bit of that ability,

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Speaker 7: So you know, I think that's got to be a

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Speaker 7: active to Luian Arumo. And again I thought he had

543
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Speaker 7: a really productive play. It's hard he scrimmages for the

544
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Speaker 7: pass rush to really you know, finished plays. But I

545
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Speaker 7: would think he had probably three sacks blown dead and

546
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Speaker 7: you're talking three sacks and probably I don't know twenty

547
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Speaker 7: ish snaps. Maybe a little bit more than that. I mean,

548
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Speaker 7: that's a big, big number when you think about kind of.

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Speaker 3: The normal game.

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Speaker 1: The other player not on the roster whose name is

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Speaker 1: going to be floated about, Kevin Bow and our guests,

552
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Speaker 1: by the way, you hear him every morning from seven

553
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Speaker 1: until ten on the Morning Show, along with James Boyd

554
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Speaker 1: and jeff Rickord. So Kevin, the other name is obviously

555
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Speaker 1: that of your high school. In terms of a product,

556
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Speaker 1: Terry McLaurin, who in Washington is in the final year

557
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Speaker 1: of a deal that would pay him fifteen point five million. Obviously,

558
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Speaker 1: if because he has requested a trade, maybe that is

559
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Speaker 1: simply a contract negotiation move by Terry mclauren. But if

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Speaker 1: he were to be moved to a French one would

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Speaker 1: assume that it would be with the understanding that you

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Speaker 1: also are going to be able to sign him and

563
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Speaker 1: get him beyond just a one year rental unless he

564
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Speaker 1: is a final piece player for somebody. And I don't

565
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Speaker 1: think the Colts are a player away your assessment of

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Speaker 1: that conversation and talking point.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I think the Colts are very very high in

568
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Speaker 7: their wide out group right now. There's certainly been many years.

569
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Speaker 7: I'd argue almost all of them in the Christoud era,

570
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Speaker 7: where I don't think that statement would have had.

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Speaker 8: A whole lot of merit.

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Speaker 7: But you know, last night, you know you could probably

573
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Speaker 7: see a glimpse of that, you know, arguably one of

574
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Speaker 7: the better players in the field last night with Dadi Mitchell.

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Speaker 7: He's your fourth wide out. So you know, I kind

576
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Speaker 7: of look at, you know, Michael Pittman junior in a

577
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Speaker 7: pseudo contract year, Alex Peerson then actual contract year. You

578
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Speaker 7: know what exactly is that going to look like? And

579
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Speaker 7: you know, there's no way, I guess to say this

580
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Speaker 7: without it sounding like a shot of Terry McLaurin, because

581
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Speaker 7: he has had a hell of an NFL career so far.

582
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Speaker 7: But it's wild to see how that age thirty franti

583
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Speaker 7: a white out seems to be such a falling off

584
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Speaker 7: a cliff for twenty guys. And so if you're the Colts,

585
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Speaker 7: you're gonna sit here and say, well, we love our

586
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Speaker 7: whiteout group, but we're gonna give up draft picks and

587
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Speaker 7: whatever thirty million to pay a thirty year old plus

588
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Speaker 7: white out. When again Pierce is a free agent, you know,

589
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Speaker 7: we'll see about Michael Pittman Jr. Obviously Mclaurin's been better

590
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Speaker 7: than those two. But I just don't, you know, I

591
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Speaker 7: actually don't think the urgency maybe is this you know,

592
00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:31,879
Speaker 7: wild as it has been before at receiver. I'm curious

593
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Speaker 7: to see how things will play out for Sarry Mclaurin's.

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Speaker 6: Kind of a white It's a really unique situation. I

595
00:28:36,680 --> 00:28:38,120
Speaker 6: don't think you see this too many.

596
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Speaker 7: Times in the month of August, and you know, how

597
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Speaker 7: is it going to go over the next month or

598
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Speaker 7: so with a team that you know many are probably

599
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Speaker 7: thinking can make a run again in the NFC. There, Yeah, shockingly,

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Speaker 7: I just don't view white your other positions in the

601
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Speaker 7: team where maybe you would look at it and say, yeah,

602
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Speaker 7: you know, maybe there is a little bit more of

603
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Speaker 7: a heightened interest there, But I think internally they still

604
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Speaker 7: feel really really good out whether they're at a white out.

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Speaker 3: You know, the the white out position.

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Speaker 1: Alec Pierce obviously the name that comes to mind when

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Speaker 1: you're talking about contractual things. What do you think things

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Speaker 1: stand on that, Kevin, do you think that's one of

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Speaker 1: those that just it's kind of an automatic and he

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Speaker 1: gets re signed before the end of the year or

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Speaker 1: do you think Alec Pierce without necessarily saying it, may

612
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Speaker 1: be looking at a place where he can get more

613
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Speaker 1: quarterback consistency.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I think definitely the latter.

615
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Speaker 7: And just in general, what does the NFL market think

616
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Speaker 7: to them? You know, I mean, he brings a trait

617
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Speaker 7: that is really rare, and that's the ability to just

618
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Speaker 7: take the top off defense, to let the NFL in

619
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Speaker 7: yards for Cats last year with obviously very mediocre quarterback play.

620
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Speaker 7: So I could see him getting a to some maybe

621
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Speaker 7: a surprisingly big deal. And you know, I actually posed

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Speaker 7: this question Rick von Terry earlier in the week when

623
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Speaker 7: we had him on of you know again, Michael Pittman Jr.

624
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Speaker 7: He will be in the Terry McLaurin age range contract

625
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Speaker 7: range next offseason. Now, again he's not the player, but

626
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Speaker 7: end of the second contract, you know, signed a three

627
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Speaker 7: year deal, the thought is get back to free agency

628
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Speaker 7: for a third time and really cash in. And so

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Speaker 7: you know, I kind of pose the question to Rick, just, hey,

630
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Speaker 7: would you rather have Alec? Would rather Michael Pittman Jr.

631
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Speaker 7: Two very different players, And you know, I think he

632
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Speaker 7: pretty much said he would rather have Alec Pierce, you know,

633
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Speaker 7: and he looks at it obviously through a lens of hey,

634
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Speaker 7: what strikes fearing me as a defensive coordinator. Well, you know,

635
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Speaker 7: I can live with Pittman having you know, seven catches

636
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Speaker 7: for seventy two yards in a game, but Pierce pops

637
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Speaker 7: off a couple thirty yarders.

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Speaker 6: Boom, the game's changed.

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Speaker 7: So that is one that I think is a great

640
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Speaker 7: debate and one you could definitely have.

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Speaker 6: And you know, Ady.

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Speaker 7: Mitchell's arrival emergence everyone to describe it, I think will

643
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Speaker 7: certainly factor into things as well. But yeah, Pierce is

644
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Speaker 7: going to do a big, big payday, and I can

645
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Speaker 7: kind of see probably more from his camp not wanting

646
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Speaker 7: to necessarily jump at a contract extension if the Colts

647
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Speaker 7: did present him with one. I know, he again has

648
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Speaker 7: been a you know, small catch guy in terms of

649
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Speaker 7: pure numbers through his first three seasons. But you know,

650
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Speaker 7: league wide, if you don't have that elementar your offense,

651
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Speaker 7: but you feel like you have a quarterback that can

652
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Speaker 7: tap into more of that, that'd probably be pretty attractive

653
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Speaker 7: on the open market.

654
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Speaker 1: The eighty Mitchell emergence that we have seen Kevin has

655
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Speaker 1: that stayed now as the norm or did he have

656
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Speaker 1: kind of a breakout and then go back to being

657
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Speaker 1: eighty Mitchell.

658
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Speaker 7: I guess so far in camp I would describe Mitchell

659
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Speaker 7: as super inconsistent, borderline bad the first three or four days,

660
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Speaker 7: several drops in team sessions, and then I thought this

661
00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:53,200
Speaker 7: week he was much better, particularly last night, Like you know,

662
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Speaker 7: earlier in the week, I think some of the stuff

663
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Speaker 7: he did was a little bit more in kind of

664
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Speaker 7: one on one or seven on sevens. But you know,

665
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Speaker 7: for those that were there last night, a him down

666
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Speaker 7: the field make a couple of big plays. There was

667
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Speaker 7: a throw that Daniel Jones had that I thought Jones

668
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Speaker 7: was simply throwing it out of bounds and Mitchell was

669
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Speaker 7: able to get a toe tap down and boy that

670
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Speaker 7: was close, but I'm pretty sure the officials ruled it

671
00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:16,840
Speaker 7: as a catch there. So again, in a team setting,

672
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Speaker 7: much more from him, which you know that's the issue.

673
00:32:20,840 --> 00:32:23,200
Speaker 7: It's like, you know, he gets open, but then you

674
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Speaker 7: target him and you might as well flip a coin

675
00:32:25,360 --> 00:32:28,240
Speaker 7: and you might have a better success rate than thinking

676
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Speaker 7: he's gonna come down with a with a catch. So yeah,

677
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Speaker 7: I think now you kind of look forward to, Okay,

678
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Speaker 7: what's next week. He's been really bad and really good

679
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Speaker 7: what about against an opposing team, you know, joint practice,

680
00:32:39,040 --> 00:32:42,040
Speaker 7: preseason game, and then if you want to spend it forward,

681
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Speaker 7: if he does start to show more and more promise,

682
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Speaker 7: you know, how do you factor him into playing time?

683
00:32:48,600 --> 00:32:49,880
Speaker 6: You know, how much does he cut into.

684
00:32:49,760 --> 00:32:52,040
Speaker 7: Michael Pittman Junior and Alec Pierson a little bit of

685
00:32:52,120 --> 00:32:55,280
Speaker 7: Josh downs as well. So obviously be a great problem

686
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Speaker 7: to have, but we'll see how the rest of August

687
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Speaker 7: plays though.

688
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Speaker 1: Tyler Warren last night had the catch of camp true

689
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Speaker 1: or false?

690
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Speaker 7: Oh easily? Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean, I'd say one

691
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Speaker 7: of the best catches I've seen in training camp period.

692
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Speaker 6: Yeah.

693
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Speaker 7: I felt bad for jailing Carli as a linebacker and coverage.

694
00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:15,440
Speaker 7: I'm like, dude, you did everything.

695
00:33:14,920 --> 00:33:15,320
Speaker 6: You could have.

696
00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:18,000
Speaker 7: When Joe threw it, I was like, this ball is

697
00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:21,960
Speaker 7: going to go over Kyler Warren ted and you overthrow

698
00:33:22,040 --> 00:33:23,520
Speaker 7: somebody in the middle of the field and you're probably

699
00:33:23,520 --> 00:33:27,840
Speaker 7: getting kicked off like fifty percent of the time. So yeah,

700
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Speaker 7: that was I mean for a tight end to have

701
00:33:29,640 --> 00:33:32,680
Speaker 7: that type of body control and I mean literally tipped

702
00:33:32,680 --> 00:33:34,360
Speaker 7: the ball up with the left it hauled in with

703
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Speaker 7: the right wall fall into the ground and getting Carlis

704
00:33:37,560 --> 00:33:42,320
Speaker 7: was all over him. Yeah, it's definitely easily the best

705
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Speaker 7: catch of Colts Camp this year, and I say one

706
00:33:44,520 --> 00:33:45,280
Speaker 7: of the better ones I've.

707
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Speaker 6: Seen in a while.

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Speaker 3: Kevin Bowen our guest.

709
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Speaker 1: I am lied by the way, at the American Dairy

710
00:33:49,320 --> 00:33:52,600
Speaker 1: Association of Indiana's Dairy Bar Great Indiana State Fair. Today

711
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Speaker 1: is the opening day, nine until nine. They're hours for

712
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Speaker 1: each day except for Mondays of the fair, where you

713
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Speaker 1: can come and get amongst o there's the Key Lime

714
00:34:01,080 --> 00:34:03,800
Speaker 1: milkshake or all of their grilled cheese offerings and the

715
00:34:03,880 --> 00:34:07,280
Speaker 1: other dairy products. Okay, Kevin, you mentioned right there the

716
00:34:07,320 --> 00:34:10,200
Speaker 1: linebacker position. That's one that we haven't talked as much about.

717
00:34:10,239 --> 00:34:12,640
Speaker 1: I mean, it's certainly this show we haven't and I

718
00:34:12,680 --> 00:34:15,560
Speaker 1: think in general, the coverage of the Colts has been

719
00:34:15,640 --> 00:34:19,760
Speaker 1: so hyper focused, understandably so on quarterback and then as well,

720
00:34:19,840 --> 00:34:22,520
Speaker 1: you know, just keeping an eye on those receivers, the

721
00:34:22,640 --> 00:34:25,680
Speaker 1: corner backs, the defensive backfield will get to that. There's

722
00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:27,359
Speaker 1: you know, you got to go now with depth there

723
00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:30,520
Speaker 1: and Chris Ballard dipped into his rolodex in that regard.

724
00:34:30,560 --> 00:34:32,680
Speaker 1: But let's go to linebackers. You have not talked a

725
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Speaker 1: lot about it, your overall assessment of that group so

726
00:34:36,320 --> 00:34:38,920
Speaker 1: far through camp well.

727
00:34:38,760 --> 00:34:39,800
Speaker 6: For Radaransom Flee.

728
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Speaker 7: Just because you know, here we are seven days into

729
00:34:41,719 --> 00:34:44,319
Speaker 7: it was yet to Seesi or Franklin. I don't know

730
00:34:44,360 --> 00:34:46,920
Speaker 7: if the worry meter is super high, but I don't

731
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Speaker 7: think it's ideal that the quarterback of your defense is

732
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Speaker 7: yet to a practice. He's been out for I guess

733
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Speaker 7: about probably three months at this point. I want to

734
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Speaker 7: say he had that surgery is kind of early May,

735
00:34:57,239 --> 00:35:00,520
Speaker 7: and says I can said that he should be back

736
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Speaker 7: this week, So I don't know. It feels like maybe

737
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Speaker 7: that could be happening a little bit later this week.

738
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Speaker 7: So yeah, that's probably worth pointing out. For last night, Yes,

739
00:35:09,040 --> 00:35:11,960
Speaker 7: the offense had plenty of fireworks, but you know, you

740
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Speaker 7: could argue they were missing their best defensive linemen and

741
00:35:15,400 --> 00:35:18,839
Speaker 7: DeForest Buckner, their best linebacker in Franklin, and then their

742
00:35:18,840 --> 00:35:23,320
Speaker 7: best cornerback in Tavarisward. A guy by name of Joe

743
00:35:23,400 --> 00:35:27,879
Speaker 7: Bachi has been I think pretty good number forty eight

744
00:35:27,960 --> 00:35:29,200
Speaker 7: for those that have been out there.

745
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Speaker 6: He came over from Cincinnati.

746
00:35:31,280 --> 00:35:34,080
Speaker 7: Kind of sounds like a World Series of Poker player.

747
00:35:34,080 --> 00:35:36,319
Speaker 7: I feel like they're like Tanda like table six, here's

748
00:35:36,360 --> 00:35:38,799
Speaker 7: Joe Bachi here and you know he's got the sun.

749
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Speaker 1: To me, that sounds like a closer for the Minnesota Twins.

750
00:35:44,640 --> 00:35:46,200
Speaker 3: Sure, I don't know, you know what I mean?

751
00:35:46,320 --> 00:35:48,960
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah I could. I could definitely hear that.

752
00:35:49,680 --> 00:35:52,360
Speaker 7: So yeah, mostly a special steamer in his career, but

753
00:35:52,400 --> 00:35:53,839
Speaker 7: you know he's gotten a little bit of chance here

754
00:35:53,880 --> 00:35:58,600
Speaker 7: defensively and has made some place Camber grown the LC products.

755
00:35:59,560 --> 00:36:02,640
Speaker 7: He is factored in some things. So again, it's a

756
00:36:02,640 --> 00:36:04,759
Speaker 7: group that does not have a lot of resume. The

757
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Speaker 7: deeper you get in the depth chart. Even Jalen Carlis,

758
00:36:06,840 --> 00:36:09,440
Speaker 7: who's a starter, has not played a whole lot. I mean,

759
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Speaker 7: he was a rookie last year and it fits around

760
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Speaker 7: pick out of out of Missouri. So that's a position

761
00:36:14,719 --> 00:36:16,600
Speaker 7: group that I do think you have some more. I

762
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Speaker 7: think a position group the Colts largely don't really care

763
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Speaker 7: about though. I think if you were going to rank

764
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Speaker 7: the positions position groups on the team, they just don't

765
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Speaker 7: view it in the same light as some others, which

766
00:36:27,040 --> 00:36:30,399
Speaker 7: I can get. And in today's NFL you probably don't

767
00:36:30,440 --> 00:36:33,280
Speaker 7: play as many linebackers as you used to. But yeah,

768
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Speaker 7: Franklin Is probably is probably the one. You know, for

769
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Speaker 7: the most part, it's been a rather quiet injury camp,

770
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Speaker 7: but his lingering status continues, and a guy that really

771
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Speaker 7: has not been hurt much at all in his Colt's career.

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Speaker 1: You know, when you just mentioned injuries, you know, obviously

773
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Speaker 1: at corner you got Jalen Jones at corner that has

774
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Speaker 1: the hamstring issue. Juju Brentz also has been dinged up yesterday,

775
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Speaker 1: And I know you don't read a lot into this,

776
00:36:57,600 --> 00:37:00,200
Speaker 1: but they did go out and kick the tires then

777
00:37:00,239 --> 00:37:02,560
Speaker 1: out on a couple of veterans at corner. They looked

778
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Speaker 1: in what way would you assess that position? I'll be

779
00:37:05,680 --> 00:37:09,800
Speaker 1: it an incomplete last night based on those players.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean I actually make a fair take to

781
00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:15,440
Speaker 7: read into something. I mean, anytime a team signs they

782
00:37:15,480 --> 00:37:19,080
Speaker 7: actually just signed another corner a little bit ago. So

783
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Speaker 7: they fined three corners in the last you know whatever

784
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Speaker 7: twenty four hours, and I think they maybe cut one.

785
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Speaker 7: So yeah, I mean last night they had three three

786
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Speaker 7: of their top five out. I'd probably label Travarious Ward

787
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Speaker 7: number one, and then you know Jones and Juju Bred's

788
00:37:34,840 --> 00:37:38,480
Speaker 7: probably four or five something in that range. So yeah,

789
00:37:38,520 --> 00:37:40,799
Speaker 7: I mean, clearly you know, their cornerback depth is going

790
00:37:40,840 --> 00:37:42,520
Speaker 7: to be tested a little bit here right now, and

791
00:37:42,600 --> 00:37:45,439
Speaker 7: hamstrings can be very naggy, and I think one thing

792
00:37:45,440 --> 00:37:47,560
Speaker 7: to kind of nerd out a little bit about corner wise,

793
00:37:47,600 --> 00:37:51,200
Speaker 7: they did sign two corners that are under six foot,

794
00:37:51,239 --> 00:37:54,040
Speaker 7: and both the corners Hurt and Jones and Brents are

795
00:37:54,120 --> 00:37:56,200
Speaker 7: over six foot, so you know, it's one of the

796
00:37:56,280 --> 00:37:59,360
Speaker 7: things where Chris Out again was very stringe at times

797
00:37:59,400 --> 00:38:03,960
Speaker 7: on that hype requirement at corner, but it seems like

798
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Speaker 7: they're a little bit more open minded under lu Ana

799
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Speaker 7: Arumo to not be maybe a stringent there. They brought

800
00:38:10,160 --> 00:38:13,320
Speaker 7: over a defensive backs coach from the Giants, and Jerome Henderson.

801
00:38:13,400 --> 00:38:16,759
Speaker 7: He has history with both of the corners that they

802
00:38:16,800 --> 00:38:20,719
Speaker 7: signed yesterday, so you know, obviously familiarity can kind of

803
00:38:20,760 --> 00:38:24,120
Speaker 7: lead to some things. But yeah, I mean right now,

804
00:38:24,280 --> 00:38:28,120
Speaker 7: I mean a week endo camp and the only real

805
00:38:28,160 --> 00:38:31,080
Speaker 7: injuries unless I'm just missing one, obviously, you have franklin

806
00:38:31,160 --> 00:38:33,279
Speaker 7: Is to your fourth and fifth corner. Like when you're

807
00:38:33,280 --> 00:38:35,680
Speaker 7: talking about the two deep depth chart, I mean, that's

808
00:38:35,719 --> 00:38:37,719
Speaker 7: pretty good, especially when you consider some of the teams

809
00:38:37,719 --> 00:38:40,279
Speaker 7: around the league. So obviously we'll see how the health

810
00:38:40,320 --> 00:38:42,560
Speaker 7: continues to play out, but so far it hasn't been

811
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Speaker 7: too alarming.

812
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Speaker 3: Don't laugh at this next question, Kevin, You ready?

813
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Speaker 1: I mean I've said some pretty dumb things to you,

814
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Speaker 1: mostly mostly on the air for that matter, over the

815
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Speaker 1: course of our time in radio together. And I'm gonna

816
00:38:56,360 --> 00:38:58,319
Speaker 1: make I'm gonna ask you a question, and I want

817
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Speaker 1: you to answer the question by telling me how dumb

818
00:39:00,440 --> 00:39:01,239
Speaker 1: a question it is?

819
00:39:01,440 --> 00:39:03,279
Speaker 3: You ready?

820
00:39:03,360 --> 00:39:04,160
Speaker 6: Yeah?

821
00:39:04,840 --> 00:39:08,719
Speaker 1: Is the quarterback barring injury? Is the quarterback competition over?

822
00:39:12,880 --> 00:39:13,800
Speaker 7: Barring injury?

823
00:39:13,840 --> 00:39:15,279
Speaker 6: Is a quarterback competition?

824
00:39:15,719 --> 00:39:16,040
Speaker 7: Over?

825
00:39:17,200 --> 00:39:17,359
Speaker 3: Now?

826
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Speaker 7: I will say you and I chatted for about ten

827
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Speaker 7: or fifteen minutes pre show. It's one of the few

828
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Speaker 7: times I've ever hung up and been like, wow, Jake

829
00:39:22,760 --> 00:39:24,960
Speaker 7: didn't say anything dumb to me during during.

830
00:39:24,760 --> 00:39:28,520
Speaker 1: That song conversation there, So yeah, Well, but you did

831
00:39:28,640 --> 00:39:30,480
Speaker 1: hear me getting scolded by a cop for going down

832
00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:32,000
Speaker 1: the wrong way of a street that I thought I

833
00:39:32,000 --> 00:39:33,359
Speaker 1: was supposed to be going the other way?

834
00:39:33,560 --> 00:39:34,640
Speaker 3: So yes, I mean there was there.

835
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Speaker 7: We thought I thought we were back at the combine

836
00:39:36,920 --> 00:39:38,440
Speaker 7: When that was happening, I go, oh, no, did he

837
00:39:38,480 --> 00:39:39,520
Speaker 7: forget us credential again?

838
00:39:39,600 --> 00:39:40,880
Speaker 6: Is he going to drop? Do you know who I

839
00:39:40,880 --> 00:39:45,600
Speaker 6: am I know, no cop at the at the State Fair.

840
00:39:46,080 --> 00:39:47,520
Speaker 3: Well, you back me up on this.

841
00:39:47,640 --> 00:39:49,840
Speaker 1: I was, I was pulling into the State Fair and

842
00:39:49,880 --> 00:39:52,560
Speaker 1: he was like, hey man, you're going in the exit.

843
00:39:52,680 --> 00:39:54,040
Speaker 3: And I said, well, wait a minute.

844
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Speaker 1: If that's the exit, like your cars parked in it,

845
00:39:56,320 --> 00:39:58,839
Speaker 1: So I assumed if that's the entry lane, your cars

846
00:39:58,840 --> 00:40:00,880
Speaker 1: parked in it the wrong way. So that was the exit.

847
00:40:01,360 --> 00:40:04,319
Speaker 1: And and give him credit, Kevin, you heard it. He

848
00:40:04,440 --> 00:40:07,480
Speaker 1: actually kind of like he was kind of like, yeah, actually,

849
00:40:07,520 --> 00:40:08,880
Speaker 1: you know what, you're not wrong here. Let me let

850
00:40:08,880 --> 00:40:10,480
Speaker 1: you through, right. I mean that that basically is how

851
00:40:10,480 --> 00:40:11,320
Speaker 1: that went down, right.

852
00:40:11,800 --> 00:40:14,560
Speaker 6: Yeah, that is uh, that is what I uh, he

853
00:40:14,719 --> 00:40:15,680
Speaker 6: was through the phone.

854
00:40:15,680 --> 00:40:20,680
Speaker 7: There is the starting quarterback competition over barring injury.

855
00:40:22,280 --> 00:40:24,279
Speaker 6: I don't know if I'm there with the sharpie just yet.

856
00:40:24,440 --> 00:40:26,680
Speaker 7: I mean, I don't know. Maybe you start writing reaches

857
00:40:26,719 --> 00:40:28,960
Speaker 7: his name in ten a little bit. I didn't change seconds.

858
00:40:28,960 --> 00:40:31,480
Speaker 7: More open minded to Daniel Jones than people want to.

859
00:40:31,400 --> 00:40:32,360
Speaker 3: Really admit, or.

860
00:40:34,160 --> 00:40:36,400
Speaker 6: I also feel you can't.

861
00:40:36,520 --> 00:40:40,120
Speaker 7: And actually was chatting with a colleague last night on

862
00:40:40,160 --> 00:40:42,080
Speaker 7: the sideline too. You know we kind of had this

863
00:40:42,160 --> 00:40:44,000
Speaker 7: similar question of like, hey, what are we doing here?

864
00:40:44,040 --> 00:40:45,800
Speaker 7: Could we just you know, could they just name a starter?

865
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Speaker 6: I'm like, you can't.

866
00:40:47,440 --> 00:40:49,520
Speaker 7: I mean, if you're going to preach competition for nine months,

867
00:40:50,520 --> 00:40:52,080
Speaker 7: are you really going to name a starter before you

868
00:40:52,120 --> 00:40:54,160
Speaker 7: even face another team in the free season. It just

869
00:40:54,600 --> 00:40:56,080
Speaker 7: kind of seems to go against like the.

870
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Speaker 6: Whole competition, competition, all of that.

871
00:40:58,640 --> 00:41:00,520
Speaker 7: It's like, well, you know, I'd probably like to see

872
00:41:01,120 --> 00:41:04,320
Speaker 7: Richardson go against Baltimore and maybe even Green Bay as well,

873
00:41:04,360 --> 00:41:07,560
Speaker 7: and of course throw in the preseason game. So yeah,

874
00:41:07,560 --> 00:41:09,560
Speaker 7: I do think Richardson has done a nice job here

875
00:41:09,560 --> 00:41:11,600
Speaker 7: early on. I don't think Danion Jones has done anything

876
00:41:11,600 --> 00:41:15,480
Speaker 7: to be wildly impressive. So I can hear you out,

877
00:41:15,520 --> 00:41:20,680
Speaker 7: but I tend to think not yet yet. I mean, you,

878
00:41:20,680 --> 00:41:22,560
Speaker 7: you know, whatever you're sending at the mid term, if

879
00:41:22,560 --> 00:41:24,359
Speaker 7: you're Richardson, you feel pretty good. But I think you're

880
00:41:24,360 --> 00:41:25,880
Speaker 7: still a couple of boxes to the techs.

881
00:41:26,680 --> 00:41:32,040
Speaker 1: But Richardson does at this point, Kevin, he has displayed

882
00:41:32,880 --> 00:41:36,560
Speaker 1: the things I think, and you tell me if I'm wrong.

883
00:41:37,160 --> 00:41:41,239
Speaker 1: But it seems as though from both an accuracy standpoint

884
00:41:41,280 --> 00:41:45,640
Speaker 1: and just overall and approach and demeanor standpoint, it looks

885
00:41:45,680 --> 00:41:49,480
Speaker 1: like Anthony Richardson is showing the glimpses of the signs

886
00:41:49,840 --> 00:41:51,960
Speaker 1: that we were hoping he would show fair.

887
00:41:53,080 --> 00:41:55,680
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, I mean I yeah, I don't know.

888
00:41:55,680 --> 00:41:58,080
Speaker 7: I tried to channel probably you earlier this week and

889
00:41:58,120 --> 00:42:01,319
Speaker 7: I tried to make an eye doctor now of you

890
00:42:01,360 --> 00:42:04,759
Speaker 7: know they ask you to put the spoon over one eye,

891
00:42:03,760 --> 00:42:05,399
Speaker 7: and yeah, and read the.

892
00:42:05,480 --> 00:42:08,520
Speaker 3: Chart, which farmhouse is clearer A or B.

893
00:42:08,840 --> 00:42:11,480
Speaker 7: Yes, I swear my hit rate on that's got to

894
00:42:11,480 --> 00:42:13,720
Speaker 7: be Anthony Richardson's completion percentage through.

895
00:42:13,520 --> 00:42:14,640
Speaker 6: His first couple of seasons.

896
00:42:15,080 --> 00:42:18,840
Speaker 7: But anyways, if you had him do that in twenty

897
00:42:18,880 --> 00:42:21,200
Speaker 7: twenty three, you had him do it in twenty twenty four.

898
00:42:21,000 --> 00:42:22,359
Speaker 6: And now here in twenty twenty five.

899
00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:24,960
Speaker 7: I'd say if you watch film on the first week

900
00:42:25,000 --> 00:42:27,960
Speaker 7: of camp each of those three films, you would say

901
00:42:28,000 --> 00:42:30,480
Speaker 7: that this year is the Fears. This year you feel

902
00:42:30,480 --> 00:42:32,560
Speaker 7: like the vision is is better now by no means

903
00:42:32,560 --> 00:42:36,200
Speaker 7: it's as twenty twenty, but it's been clear it's been

904
00:42:36,320 --> 00:42:39,440
Speaker 7: a little bit better from an underneath route standpoint, And

905
00:42:39,480 --> 00:42:41,040
Speaker 7: the same thing be true for Daniel Jones. I don't

906
00:42:41,040 --> 00:42:42,920
Speaker 7: think either of them have had a ball picked off

907
00:42:42,960 --> 00:42:45,279
Speaker 7: in the last three practices, and I don't remember too

908
00:42:45,280 --> 00:42:48,120
Speaker 7: many like interceptible balls like, hey, you know, dB was

909
00:42:48,160 --> 00:42:48,640
Speaker 7: right there.

910
00:42:48,480 --> 00:42:49,120
Speaker 1: And just dropped it.

911
00:42:49,200 --> 00:42:52,799
Speaker 7: So that is definitely not what has happened to three

912
00:42:52,840 --> 00:42:56,919
Speaker 7: percent in years past. So again, will it translate when

913
00:42:57,400 --> 00:42:58,680
Speaker 7: you know, you know what gets real?

914
00:42:59,200 --> 00:42:59,719
Speaker 3: We'll see.

915
00:42:59,760 --> 00:43:02,359
Speaker 6: But now that is a definite difference from the first

916
00:43:02,360 --> 00:43:04,160
Speaker 6: two years of him.

917
00:43:04,480 --> 00:43:08,000
Speaker 3: You know. The other thing that is so easy to forget.

918
00:43:08,680 --> 00:43:10,880
Speaker 1: And I know you're talking about the vision of twenty twenty,

919
00:43:10,880 --> 00:43:13,279
Speaker 1: but if it's the year twenty twenty, Anthony Richardson was

920
00:43:13,320 --> 00:43:15,800
Speaker 1: only eighteen years old, you know, I think we forget

921
00:43:15,800 --> 00:43:18,160
Speaker 1: that this is a guy that is still what twenty

922
00:43:18,200 --> 00:43:21,719
Speaker 1: three years old, just turned twenty three years old. It

923
00:43:21,800 --> 00:43:24,400
Speaker 1: feels like by now he's twenty six or twenty seven.

924
00:43:24,520 --> 00:43:27,799
Speaker 1: But this is obviously a guy that that's why he

925
00:43:27,840 --> 00:43:29,680
Speaker 1: continues to get the time where people are like, why

926
00:43:29,680 --> 00:43:31,600
Speaker 1: are they giving this guy so much time? It's because

927
00:43:32,080 --> 00:43:35,240
Speaker 1: time was something certainly that he was afforded. All right, Kevin, lastly,

928
00:43:35,280 --> 00:43:37,200
Speaker 1: before we let go, and you guys are gonna be

929
00:43:37,200 --> 00:43:39,200
Speaker 1: on the air at seven o'clock on Monday. You are

930
00:43:39,239 --> 00:43:42,680
Speaker 1: watching for or looking for what between now and then

931
00:43:42,800 --> 00:43:44,560
Speaker 1: over the course of the weekend that will be big

932
00:43:44,600 --> 00:43:46,560
Speaker 1: topis a discussion for you on Monday morning.

933
00:43:47,360 --> 00:43:49,959
Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean, does this quarterback arrow continue to point

934
00:43:50,000 --> 00:43:52,360
Speaker 7: in a better direction? Do we see the fifty fifty

935
00:43:52,400 --> 00:43:54,879
Speaker 7: sweet continue? Flit continue, They'll go back to back day

936
00:43:54,960 --> 00:43:58,440
Speaker 7: Saturday and Sunday here before heading to Baltimore. And then defensively,

937
00:43:58,520 --> 00:44:01,880
Speaker 7: we just talked about it. Franklin's gonna make his camp debut.

938
00:44:02,280 --> 00:44:03,400
Speaker 6: That's probably what I'll be watching for.

939
00:44:03,440 --> 00:44:06,320
Speaker 1: And that's side of the ball, all right, Kevin, appreciate

940
00:44:06,360 --> 00:44:06,880
Speaker 1: it as always.

941
00:44:06,920 --> 00:44:08,000
Speaker 3: Enjoy the weekend, all right.

942
00:44:08,640 --> 00:44:10,719
Speaker 8: Love me to stay fair. Jealous of you right now.

943
00:44:11,280 --> 00:44:11,839
Speaker 3: Love it man.

944
00:44:11,920 --> 00:44:14,120
Speaker 1: It's absolutely the best, no question about it. And it's

945
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Speaker 1: crowded today