1 00:00:15,120 --> 00:00:17,000 Speaker 1: Good morning. My name, it's Kasey Daniels. 2 00:00:17,000 --> 00:00:18,680 Speaker 2: That is Jim, and coming up, we're going to talk 3 00:00:18,680 --> 00:00:22,360 Speaker 2: about the latest that is going on with Savannah Guthrie's mother, 4 00:00:22,480 --> 00:00:25,600 Speaker 2: Savannah Guthrie from the Today Show and the abduction of 5 00:00:25,640 --> 00:00:29,120 Speaker 2: her mother, Nancy, and we'll get into that and how 6 00:00:29,120 --> 00:00:31,040 Speaker 2: she said they are ready to talk, but first we 7 00:00:31,080 --> 00:00:31,920 Speaker 2: have to talk about this. 8 00:00:32,000 --> 00:00:33,400 Speaker 1: A lot of Hoosiers. 9 00:00:33,200 --> 00:00:36,120 Speaker 2: Opening their utility bills this morning and they are double 10 00:00:36,280 --> 00:00:39,640 Speaker 2: or even triple what they paid just a few weeks ago. 11 00:00:39,720 --> 00:00:41,840 Speaker 1: And Nipscoe is saying the main reason. 12 00:00:41,920 --> 00:00:45,480 Speaker 2: Is because it's been a very cold January, which has 13 00:00:45,560 --> 00:00:50,280 Speaker 2: led to more furnace use. The spike is part of 14 00:00:50,320 --> 00:00:53,199 Speaker 2: a larger statewide increase in energy costs. 15 00:00:53,280 --> 00:00:55,240 Speaker 1: This is not just about the weather. 16 00:00:55,560 --> 00:00:58,600 Speaker 2: The utility companies across Indiana they're raising rates and they 17 00:00:58,640 --> 00:01:02,040 Speaker 2: say this is to pay for infrastructure upgrades and also 18 00:01:02,400 --> 00:01:07,200 Speaker 2: transitions to new power sources. So does this have anything 19 00:01:07,240 --> 00:01:10,400 Speaker 2: to do with that SMR bill that was passed back 20 00:01:10,560 --> 00:01:11,640 Speaker 2: in twenty twenty five. 21 00:01:11,880 --> 00:01:13,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it's entirely possible. 22 00:01:13,680 --> 00:01:17,680 Speaker 4: That act was passed in the previous legislative session and 23 00:01:17,800 --> 00:01:20,720 Speaker 4: last spring signed into law by Governor brawn. Now that 24 00:01:20,800 --> 00:01:23,760 Speaker 4: was just a pilot program, but there's still still not 25 00:01:23,800 --> 00:01:25,640 Speaker 4: a whole lot of details about this out there as 26 00:01:25,640 --> 00:01:27,319 Speaker 4: to you know, where that's going to be done. 27 00:01:27,360 --> 00:01:27,520 Speaker 5: There. 28 00:01:27,600 --> 00:01:30,400 Speaker 3: By the way, there are also still some further. 29 00:01:30,200 --> 00:01:33,959 Speaker 4: Bills around this legislation that are part of the twenty 30 00:01:34,040 --> 00:01:37,040 Speaker 4: twenty six legislative session as well. So I think it's 31 00:01:37,080 --> 00:01:39,880 Speaker 4: probably too early for the SMR bill from last year 32 00:01:39,880 --> 00:01:43,480 Speaker 4: to be directly affecting utility rates, especially to this degree. 33 00:01:43,480 --> 00:01:44,080 Speaker 3: But you're right. 34 00:01:44,160 --> 00:01:47,080 Speaker 4: The idea that this is because it's winter and so 35 00:01:47,160 --> 00:01:50,560 Speaker 4: all of a sudden electric costs are doubling and tripling 36 00:01:50,640 --> 00:01:52,880 Speaker 4: in some instances is just a ton of bs. 37 00:01:53,000 --> 00:01:54,240 Speaker 3: Look, this winter hasn't been. 38 00:01:54,120 --> 00:01:56,880 Speaker 4: Any worse than any other winter previous winters, and we 39 00:01:56,960 --> 00:01:59,120 Speaker 4: haven't seen the utility costs you know, go up by 40 00:01:59,160 --> 00:02:01,640 Speaker 4: double and triple on some occasions. This is just a 41 00:02:01,720 --> 00:02:04,760 Speaker 4: continuous Look, it seems like this this car wreck that 42 00:02:04,800 --> 00:02:07,960 Speaker 4: we've seen coming, like for a year or two now, 43 00:02:08,000 --> 00:02:09,200 Speaker 4: we've been talking about this. 44 00:02:09,320 --> 00:02:11,320 Speaker 3: The utility rates have to go up. 45 00:02:11,320 --> 00:02:14,880 Speaker 4: They're building these data centers, which are these massive power hogs. 46 00:02:15,200 --> 00:02:19,000 Speaker 4: They're not building more power, so simple supply and demand says, 47 00:02:19,080 --> 00:02:21,240 Speaker 4: oh my gosh, these new data centers are coming in 48 00:02:21,400 --> 00:02:23,880 Speaker 4: sucking up all this power. We're not creating more supply. 49 00:02:24,400 --> 00:02:26,520 Speaker 4: That means the cost for everybody has got to go up. 50 00:02:26,639 --> 00:02:31,560 Speaker 4: And that is finally, unfortunately coming to fruition and happening 51 00:02:31,639 --> 00:02:33,560 Speaker 4: right now. Like we said, been talking about it for 52 00:02:33,600 --> 00:02:37,160 Speaker 4: a year or two, keeping our fingers crossed, and here 53 00:02:37,200 --> 00:02:38,040 Speaker 4: it now, how it's happening. 54 00:02:38,240 --> 00:02:40,959 Speaker 2: Yeah, So state leaders they say they're investigating NIPSCO after 55 00:02:41,000 --> 00:02:46,400 Speaker 2: possible billing errors are linked to the new automated meters. Uh, oh, 56 00:02:46,639 --> 00:02:49,320 Speaker 2: it's just an error. So are you going to get 57 00:02:49,360 --> 00:02:53,760 Speaker 2: a refund? NIPSCO saying they don't profit from gas prices 58 00:02:53,880 --> 00:02:57,680 Speaker 2: and simply pass market costs onto customers, and that they're 59 00:02:57,800 --> 00:02:59,720 Speaker 2: urging all of their customers to sign up for budget 60 00:02:59,760 --> 00:03:03,320 Speaker 2: building to spread out the costs throughout the year. And 61 00:03:03,560 --> 00:03:07,000 Speaker 2: many residents are saying they're getting these delivery fees and 62 00:03:07,040 --> 00:03:12,400 Speaker 2: that's nearly expensive as the gas itself. However, everybody's frustrated 63 00:03:12,480 --> 00:03:16,560 Speaker 2: because they don't understand what exactly where these delivery fees 64 00:03:16,600 --> 00:03:20,639 Speaker 2: are going. And they were even protesters in Maryville yesterday 65 00:03:20,720 --> 00:03:23,320 Speaker 2: and they say this is not about just the cold weather, 66 00:03:23,639 --> 00:03:27,640 Speaker 2: it's about the rising fees and also the lack of transparency, 67 00:03:27,800 --> 00:03:30,880 Speaker 2: and when families are getting crushed by these bills, they 68 00:03:30,919 --> 00:03:33,200 Speaker 2: can't explain it away with trust us. 69 00:03:33,240 --> 00:03:34,640 Speaker 1: I mean, that's just not good enough. 70 00:03:34,720 --> 00:03:39,720 Speaker 2: If utility are the prices, if they're guaranteed higher rates 71 00:03:39,760 --> 00:03:44,000 Speaker 2: while customers have no real choice, no real answers, that's 72 00:03:44,240 --> 00:03:47,600 Speaker 2: not a free market. It's a monopoly with a permission slip. 73 00:03:47,640 --> 00:03:48,560 Speaker 2: That's what's going on. 74 00:03:48,760 --> 00:03:52,440 Speaker 4: Yeah, and the laws and the regulatory rulings have allowed 75 00:03:52,560 --> 00:03:56,520 Speaker 4: utilities to recover projected costs upfront, and this is what 76 00:03:56,680 --> 00:03:59,000 Speaker 4: was talked about a lot with the SMRs, the small 77 00:03:59,040 --> 00:04:01,760 Speaker 4: modular reactors, but it's part of other things too. So essentially, 78 00:04:01,960 --> 00:04:04,400 Speaker 4: utilities can make all these massive investments and before the 79 00:04:04,480 --> 00:04:08,200 Speaker 4: utility spends dollar number one, they can start charging you 80 00:04:08,480 --> 00:04:11,600 Speaker 4: for these projected costs that are coming. So from a 81 00:04:11,600 --> 00:04:16,080 Speaker 4: corporate standpoint, the utilities risk is absolutely minimized. But they're 82 00:04:16,080 --> 00:04:19,320 Speaker 4: doing that on the shoulders of consumers and our electric bills. 83 00:04:19,440 --> 00:04:22,440 Speaker 2: I saw an interview yesterday with Elon Musk, and he 84 00:04:22,600 --> 00:04:24,560 Speaker 2: was saying that he thinks the data centers are going 85 00:04:24,600 --> 00:04:26,320 Speaker 2: to be in space by twenty thirty. 86 00:04:27,640 --> 00:04:30,520 Speaker 1: Okay, I feel like we're putting the cart before the 87 00:04:30,560 --> 00:04:32,679 Speaker 1: horse here with all of this AI stuff. 88 00:04:32,760 --> 00:04:36,599 Speaker 2: They're just plowing ahead with it, gobbling up space throughout 89 00:04:36,600 --> 00:04:42,480 Speaker 2: these communities and passing the cost many times onto hoosiers 90 00:04:42,560 --> 00:04:44,839 Speaker 2: and the residents slow it down. 91 00:04:45,120 --> 00:04:46,880 Speaker 1: Are we putting the cart before the horse here? 92 00:04:47,000 --> 00:04:47,520 Speaker 3: Absolutely? 93 00:04:47,560 --> 00:04:49,240 Speaker 4: And I think that's why a lot of communities, and 94 00:04:49,240 --> 00:04:53,560 Speaker 4: we've seen various communities and their zoning meetings where members 95 00:04:53,560 --> 00:04:56,200 Speaker 4: of the community show up and oppose these data centers, 96 00:04:56,200 --> 00:04:57,760 Speaker 4: and some of those have been stopped, and some of 97 00:04:57,760 --> 00:05:00,000 Speaker 4: those have been delayed, but some of them are also 98 00:05:00,200 --> 00:05:03,400 Speaker 4: being built as well. And look, the AI companies, they 99 00:05:03,480 --> 00:05:05,560 Speaker 4: just want to build these data centers because they're getting 100 00:05:05,600 --> 00:05:08,760 Speaker 4: trillions of dollars of investments pouring into the AI ecosystem, 101 00:05:08,800 --> 00:05:10,400 Speaker 4: so they need to get those data centers up as 102 00:05:10,440 --> 00:05:13,120 Speaker 4: fast as possible. It's up to us, and it's up 103 00:05:13,160 --> 00:05:16,320 Speaker 4: to our lawmakers and up to our local communities to 104 00:05:16,400 --> 00:05:18,719 Speaker 4: do the things to stop those when they don't make sense. 105 00:05:18,760 --> 00:05:20,560 Speaker 4: Because this isn't going to be the last time we 106 00:05:20,560 --> 00:05:23,360 Speaker 4: talk about utility rates going up like crazy. It's mostly 107 00:05:23,400 --> 00:05:26,279 Speaker 4: happening in northern Indiana now, but it's only a matter 108 00:05:26,320 --> 00:05:28,640 Speaker 4: of time before we start seeing utility rates across the 109 00:05:28,640 --> 00:05:31,880 Speaker 4: whole state and all across the whole country rays to 110 00:05:31,960 --> 00:05:35,200 Speaker 4: the level. And these aren't just normal rate increases. These 111 00:05:35,200 --> 00:05:37,760 Speaker 4: are massive rate increases. We had the story a couple 112 00:05:37,800 --> 00:05:40,640 Speaker 4: weeks ago about people in Virginia that are having these 113 00:05:40,680 --> 00:05:44,039 Speaker 4: massive rate increases two and three times what their normal 114 00:05:44,360 --> 00:05:47,920 Speaker 4: electric costs are. Maybe part of the fact that Virginia 115 00:05:48,000 --> 00:05:50,039 Speaker 4: has more data centers than any other state in the 116 00:05:50,160 --> 00:05:50,839 Speaker 4: entire country. 117 00:05:50,960 --> 00:05:51,400 Speaker 5: Mm hmm. 118 00:05:51,680 --> 00:05:52,040 Speaker 1: Okay. 119 00:05:52,080 --> 00:05:54,719 Speaker 2: And we're going to ask Niki Kelly from Indiana Capitol 120 00:05:54,760 --> 00:05:59,719 Speaker 2: Chronicle about the bill, the Accountability Transparency bill that's in 121 00:05:59,720 --> 00:06:02,640 Speaker 2: front of the lawmakers right now, and we'll see if 122 00:06:02,800 --> 00:06:06,680 Speaker 2: that is going to help in any way, shape or form. So, 123 00:06:06,880 --> 00:06:10,040 Speaker 2: Donald Trump, he personally called Savannah Guthrie yesterday. He offered 124 00:06:10,080 --> 00:06:12,920 Speaker 2: support her eighty four year old mother, Nancy Guthrie, has 125 00:06:12,920 --> 00:06:16,600 Speaker 2: been missing since Sunday. She was reported missing after not 126 00:06:16,720 --> 00:06:20,280 Speaker 2: showing up to church near her home outside of Tucson, Arizona. 127 00:06:20,720 --> 00:06:22,240 Speaker 1: Trump told the family that all the. 128 00:06:22,240 --> 00:06:28,040 Speaker 2: Federal resources are available to help. So many different angles 129 00:06:28,279 --> 00:06:31,880 Speaker 2: and things to discuss with this, But where did you 130 00:06:31,920 --> 00:06:37,480 Speaker 2: see it? Here's something interesting YEP. Today's show hosts Savannah 131 00:06:37,520 --> 00:06:44,680 Speaker 2: Guthrie television personality announcing that they're ready to talk to 132 00:06:44,800 --> 00:06:47,080 Speaker 2: the person that is holding their mother for ransom. 133 00:06:47,640 --> 00:06:49,760 Speaker 1: I saw it on X Yeah. 134 00:06:49,600 --> 00:06:50,040 Speaker 3: So did I. 135 00:06:50,800 --> 00:06:51,560 Speaker 1: I'm not on TV. 136 00:06:51,800 --> 00:06:54,479 Speaker 4: No, no, And I think that's just the day we 137 00:06:54,560 --> 00:06:57,719 Speaker 4: live in today, where breaking news and immediate news information 138 00:06:57,839 --> 00:06:59,960 Speaker 4: is distributed on social media before they can get even 139 00:07:00,040 --> 00:07:02,680 Speaker 4: to get the cameras warmed up in these television studios. 140 00:07:02,880 --> 00:07:04,760 Speaker 4: But yeah, I mean, this is this is It's a 141 00:07:04,839 --> 00:07:08,279 Speaker 4: real life, you know, true crime drama playing out right 142 00:07:08,360 --> 00:07:10,600 Speaker 4: in front of us. And I feel terrible in a 143 00:07:10,600 --> 00:07:13,400 Speaker 4: lot of ways, not only obviously for Savannah Guthrie and 144 00:07:13,440 --> 00:07:16,520 Speaker 4: her family, but also because she is such a high 145 00:07:16,560 --> 00:07:20,360 Speaker 4: profile personality. They're having to live through this in the 146 00:07:20,440 --> 00:07:24,280 Speaker 4: public eye. And you know, she released this video. She 147 00:07:24,360 --> 00:07:27,120 Speaker 4: and her family members released this video yesterday, you know, 148 00:07:27,240 --> 00:07:29,400 Speaker 4: some of it speaking directly to the people that took 149 00:07:29,440 --> 00:07:30,360 Speaker 4: her mom hostage. 150 00:07:30,400 --> 00:07:33,520 Speaker 3: But it keeps reminding me. Remember there was a Mel. 151 00:07:33,320 --> 00:07:35,920 Speaker 4: Gibson movie in the nineties called Ransom, and a lot 152 00:07:35,960 --> 00:07:38,320 Speaker 4: of it was Mel Gibson going on television and talking 153 00:07:38,360 --> 00:07:41,600 Speaker 4: directly to the kidnappers. In that case, it was his son, 154 00:07:41,720 --> 00:07:43,760 Speaker 4: so a little bit different but it keeps reminding me 155 00:07:43,840 --> 00:07:46,480 Speaker 4: of that, especially when I saw that video that Savannah 156 00:07:46,520 --> 00:07:47,560 Speaker 4: Guthrie released last night. 157 00:07:47,600 --> 00:07:49,880 Speaker 1: They're trying to humanize her mother. 158 00:07:50,000 --> 00:07:51,160 Speaker 3: There's a lot of aspects of it. 159 00:07:51,200 --> 00:07:53,240 Speaker 4: They're trying to humanize her mother, and look there are 160 00:07:53,680 --> 00:07:55,520 Speaker 4: You know, the FBI is very good at this. I'm 161 00:07:55,520 --> 00:07:58,320 Speaker 4: sure everything that she said in that video, every word 162 00:07:58,560 --> 00:08:01,360 Speaker 4: she said in that video, every tone and inflection in 163 00:08:01,400 --> 00:08:05,280 Speaker 4: her voice was well scripted in advanced by the FBI, 164 00:08:05,440 --> 00:08:08,320 Speaker 4: by the experts that are helping in this process to 165 00:08:08,360 --> 00:08:10,560 Speaker 4: get the type of messages that they want out, not 166 00:08:10,600 --> 00:08:12,200 Speaker 4: only to the kidnappers, but also to. 167 00:08:12,160 --> 00:08:13,120 Speaker 3: The public at large. 168 00:08:13,160 --> 00:08:16,920 Speaker 2: So here is Savannah Guthrie talking to whoever has her 169 00:08:16,960 --> 00:08:18,920 Speaker 2: mother and also talking to her mother. 170 00:08:20,120 --> 00:08:25,040 Speaker 5: Our mom is our heart and our home. She is 171 00:08:25,160 --> 00:08:29,880 Speaker 5: eighty four years old. Her health, her heart is fracial. 172 00:08:31,280 --> 00:08:36,400 Speaker 5: She lives in constant pain. She is without any medicine. 173 00:08:36,880 --> 00:08:40,800 Speaker 5: She needs it to survive, she needs it not to suffer. 174 00:08:44,440 --> 00:08:47,559 Speaker 5: We too have heard the reports about a ransom letter 175 00:08:47,640 --> 00:08:53,440 Speaker 5: in the media. As a family, we are doing everything 176 00:08:53,480 --> 00:09:01,640 Speaker 5: that we can. We are ready to talk. However, we 177 00:09:01,720 --> 00:09:07,200 Speaker 5: live in a world where voices and images are easily manipulated. 178 00:09:09,320 --> 00:09:13,680 Speaker 5: We need to know without a doubt that she is 179 00:09:13,760 --> 00:09:19,040 Speaker 5: alive and that you have her. We want to hear 180 00:09:19,080 --> 00:09:24,680 Speaker 5: from you, and we are ready to listen. Please reach 181 00:09:24,720 --> 00:09:34,040 Speaker 5: out to us. Mommy, if you are hearing this, you 182 00:09:34,120 --> 00:09:40,960 Speaker 5: are a strong woman. You are God's precious daughter. Nancy. 183 00:09:42,559 --> 00:09:47,360 Speaker 5: We believe and know that even in this valley, he 184 00:09:47,440 --> 00:09:48,040 Speaker 5: is with you. 185 00:09:50,480 --> 00:09:54,640 Speaker 2: Nancy Guthrie has limited mobility and does take that daily medication. 186 00:09:55,920 --> 00:09:58,920 Speaker 2: That's a burden for someone to take on. When you're 187 00:09:58,920 --> 00:10:03,440 Speaker 2: talking about an person, a senior who has mobility issues, 188 00:10:04,040 --> 00:10:08,120 Speaker 2: that's not an easy person to have with you. 189 00:10:08,320 --> 00:10:09,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, they're going to take a lot of care, more 190 00:10:10,040 --> 00:10:12,240 Speaker 4: so than a normal person. We know she has a pacemaker, 191 00:10:12,280 --> 00:10:15,000 Speaker 4: we know she needs regular medicine and look just such. 192 00:10:15,480 --> 00:10:16,360 Speaker 3: I mean, listening to that. 193 00:10:16,360 --> 00:10:21,440 Speaker 4: Are audio is absolutely heartbreaking. And what fascinating about this 194 00:10:21,600 --> 00:10:25,559 Speaker 4: is there's so many modern aspects to this because we've 195 00:10:25,559 --> 00:10:27,679 Speaker 4: all seen similar things like this in the movies. But 196 00:10:27,760 --> 00:10:29,800 Speaker 4: what she was part of, what she was asking for 197 00:10:29,840 --> 00:10:32,960 Speaker 4: there was proof of life for her mother. And what 198 00:10:32,960 --> 00:10:34,800 Speaker 4: we would see in movies in the past. Did somebody 199 00:10:34,800 --> 00:10:37,800 Speaker 4: holding up a newspaper or shooting a video or making a. 200 00:10:37,800 --> 00:10:38,800 Speaker 3: Phone call saying I'm alive. 201 00:10:38,960 --> 00:10:41,240 Speaker 4: All of that can be generated through AI now, so 202 00:10:41,280 --> 00:10:43,040 Speaker 4: I don't know how you provide some sort of proof 203 00:10:43,120 --> 00:10:44,640 Speaker 4: of life in a situation like this. 204 00:10:44,880 --> 00:10:48,480 Speaker 2: Normally somebody her age being a victim. Usually it's a 205 00:10:48,520 --> 00:10:51,640 Speaker 2: family member or someone close to them that is most 206 00:10:51,760 --> 00:10:55,400 Speaker 2: likely involved. The statistics are eighty to eighty five percent. 207 00:10:55,840 --> 00:10:59,680 Speaker 2: It's somebody who knew her. There's talk about the ring. 208 00:11:00,200 --> 00:11:03,280 Speaker 2: It's not ring, but it's the other brand, the doorbell camera, 209 00:11:03,360 --> 00:11:06,240 Speaker 2: the doorbell camera, but there were two of them. And 210 00:11:06,440 --> 00:11:10,440 Speaker 2: also that the sister's car has been impounded and it's 211 00:11:10,440 --> 00:11:13,360 Speaker 2: not being used as evidence. The FBI has gone back 212 00:11:14,120 --> 00:11:18,520 Speaker 2: and taken items. Ashley Banfield reporting that the brother in 213 00:11:18,600 --> 00:11:22,040 Speaker 2: law her Nancy Guthrie's son in law, is now a 214 00:11:22,080 --> 00:11:26,199 Speaker 2: prime suspect. And you have cash Ptel going there now, 215 00:11:27,040 --> 00:11:30,720 Speaker 2: working directly with a group that's already there. 216 00:11:31,040 --> 00:11:33,120 Speaker 4: It's like watching a movie play out right in front 217 00:11:33,120 --> 00:11:35,200 Speaker 4: of us. Another modern aspect of this, too, is that 218 00:11:35,240 --> 00:11:37,640 Speaker 4: the people that kidnapped her, or if we're to believe 219 00:11:37,640 --> 00:11:40,640 Speaker 4: the ransom letters, they want the ransom in bitcoin, which 220 00:11:40,679 --> 00:11:43,280 Speaker 4: is another you know, totally bizarre modern aspect of it. 221 00:11:43,480 --> 00:11:47,719 Speaker 2: Multiple ransom notes and with them coming out saying that 222 00:11:47,760 --> 00:11:49,839 Speaker 2: they're ready to talk does lead you to believe that 223 00:11:49,880 --> 00:11:51,560 Speaker 2: at least one of them may be legit. 224 00:11:51,880 --> 00:11:55,199 Speaker 4: Yeah, and apparently some of those ransom notes mentioned specific 225 00:11:55,320 --> 00:12:00,719 Speaker 4: things that weren't available in the public before came out, 226 00:12:00,760 --> 00:12:02,800 Speaker 4: things like what she was wearing, what she was doing, 227 00:12:02,880 --> 00:12:06,239 Speaker 4: items in the home, and so it did lend credibility 228 00:12:06,280 --> 00:12:09,520 Speaker 4: to those ransom notes. But the fact that the kidnappers 229 00:12:09,520 --> 00:12:12,520 Speaker 4: are asking for bitcoin, which another aspect of that Bitcoin 230 00:12:12,720 --> 00:12:15,240 Speaker 4: has lost about half its value in the last month 231 00:12:15,320 --> 00:12:17,760 Speaker 4: or so. It's been a major crash in bitcoin two, 232 00:12:17,800 --> 00:12:21,480 Speaker 4: which throws another twist into it, because if you're asking 233 00:12:21,480 --> 00:12:24,120 Speaker 4: for one hundred bitcoin or a thousand bitcoin all of 234 00:12:24,120 --> 00:12:26,000 Speaker 4: a sudden, that's worth half of what it used to be. 235 00:12:26,240 --> 00:12:31,720 Speaker 4: It is just such a bizarre story and just seems 236 00:12:31,720 --> 00:12:33,560 Speaker 4: like we're watching a movie or a television show. But 237 00:12:33,600 --> 00:12:36,160 Speaker 4: that's certainly not the case for Savannah Guthrie and her family. 238 00:12:36,360 --> 00:12:38,520 Speaker 1: You're listening to ninety three WIBC. 239 00:12:44,559 --> 00:12:47,000 Speaker 2: Donald Trump said to make an announcement tonight at seven 240 00:12:47,000 --> 00:12:49,520 Speaker 2: o'clock from the South Court Auditorium. What could it be 241 00:12:49,600 --> 00:12:50,080 Speaker 2: this time? 242 00:12:50,160 --> 00:12:51,240 Speaker 1: Meanwhile, you've got JD. 243 00:12:51,400 --> 00:12:53,920 Speaker 2: Vance on his way to Italy actually I believe he 244 00:12:54,080 --> 00:12:57,680 Speaker 2: just touched down. He's going there for the Olympics. Trump 245 00:12:57,760 --> 00:13:01,000 Speaker 2: says the lesson from Minneapolis is to use a softer 246 00:13:01,240 --> 00:13:05,120 Speaker 2: touch in federal immigration enforcement, and that is not going 247 00:13:05,240 --> 00:13:07,840 Speaker 2: to sit right with a lot of people who have 248 00:13:07,960 --> 00:13:11,240 Speaker 2: been supporting him in his efforts. Forcing the law doesn't 249 00:13:11,320 --> 00:13:17,760 Speaker 2: mean abandoning restraint. It could very well end up with paralysis. 250 00:13:18,440 --> 00:13:22,280 Speaker 2: The answer is at less enforcement, it means smarter enforcement. 251 00:13:22,480 --> 00:13:25,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, Trump is look, Trump is the ultimate showman, He's 252 00:13:25,320 --> 00:13:27,960 Speaker 4: the ultimate marketer. And he knows that it's not a 253 00:13:28,000 --> 00:13:32,040 Speaker 4: good look for you know, within two or three weeks 254 00:13:32,080 --> 00:13:35,480 Speaker 4: to have ICE be involved in incidents where two citizens 255 00:13:35,480 --> 00:13:37,800 Speaker 4: were shot and killed by members of ICE, that is 256 00:13:37,920 --> 00:13:38,880 Speaker 4: not a good look. 257 00:13:39,120 --> 00:13:40,960 Speaker 3: And so he knows that he needs to change this. 258 00:13:41,280 --> 00:13:44,960 Speaker 4: And I think this is this is you know, just 259 00:13:45,040 --> 00:13:47,840 Speaker 4: kind of one notch down from where he was before. 260 00:13:47,880 --> 00:13:52,600 Speaker 4: They're sending seven hundred federal immigration you know, enforcement agents 261 00:13:52,720 --> 00:13:55,880 Speaker 4: home from Minnesota. There's still two thousand there. You know, 262 00:13:55,920 --> 00:13:59,560 Speaker 4: he took out Department of Homeland Security Secretary Christi Nomes, 263 00:13:59,559 --> 00:14:02,080 Speaker 4: sent her packing, brought in Tom Holman. So it's not 264 00:14:02,160 --> 00:14:05,440 Speaker 4: like he's leaving it entirely, but he certainly does want 265 00:14:05,480 --> 00:14:08,800 Speaker 4: to improve the optics of what's going on in Minneapolis, 266 00:14:08,880 --> 00:14:10,360 Speaker 4: and this is part of the process of it. 267 00:14:10,480 --> 00:14:13,560 Speaker 2: He did do an interview yesterday with NBC News and 268 00:14:13,880 --> 00:14:17,040 Speaker 2: they asked him about these seven hundred officers leaving Minneapolis 269 00:14:17,080 --> 00:14:19,840 Speaker 2: and if that came from him, And here's his answer. 270 00:14:19,880 --> 00:14:23,640 Speaker 4: That big change on immigration, seven hundred officers leaving Minneapolis. 271 00:14:23,880 --> 00:14:24,800 Speaker 1: Did that come from you? 272 00:14:25,160 --> 00:14:27,840 Speaker 6: Yes, it did, but it didn't come from me because 273 00:14:27,880 --> 00:14:31,640 Speaker 6: I just wanted to do it. We are waiting for 274 00:14:31,720 --> 00:14:36,120 Speaker 6: them to release prisoners, give us the murderers that they're holding, 275 00:14:36,240 --> 00:14:38,960 Speaker 6: and all of the bad people, drug dealers, all of 276 00:14:39,000 --> 00:14:42,880 Speaker 6: the bad people we allowed in our country I'd say 277 00:14:42,920 --> 00:14:46,200 Speaker 6: twenty five million people with an open border policy for 278 00:14:46,280 --> 00:14:50,240 Speaker 6: four years under Biden, and that group, the autopen group 279 00:14:50,280 --> 00:14:53,080 Speaker 6: I call him, we allowed to come into our country, 280 00:14:53,480 --> 00:14:57,200 Speaker 6: people the likes of which no country would accept. And 281 00:14:57,280 --> 00:14:59,440 Speaker 6: we're getting them out. But we've gotten a lot of 282 00:14:59,480 --> 00:15:03,160 Speaker 6: them out. Crime now in Minnesota, crime now, and Minneapolis 283 00:15:03,200 --> 00:15:06,880 Speaker 6: is down. Crime in all cities is down. Speaking why 284 00:15:06,920 --> 00:15:10,240 Speaker 6: it's down because of us. It's down in Chicago by 285 00:15:10,240 --> 00:15:12,960 Speaker 6: twenty five percent. Despite the fact that we're always dealing 286 00:15:13,000 --> 00:15:17,120 Speaker 6: with these people and they happen to be Democrats speaking 287 00:15:17,160 --> 00:15:19,720 Speaker 6: of we don't know anything about crime prevention. 288 00:15:20,240 --> 00:15:21,600 Speaker 1: So the borders are Tom Holman. 289 00:15:21,640 --> 00:15:24,720 Speaker 2: He announced the seven hundred federal immigration and border agents 290 00:15:24,760 --> 00:15:27,920 Speaker 2: being pulled back, and Holman said the reduction is possible 291 00:15:27,960 --> 00:15:30,440 Speaker 2: because now some of the counties there are now cooperating 292 00:15:30,720 --> 00:15:33,960 Speaker 2: more closely with the federal agents. Some jails in factor 293 00:15:33,960 --> 00:15:38,800 Speaker 2: even allowing ICE to take custody of illegals directly while 294 00:15:38,800 --> 00:15:39,520 Speaker 2: they're in jail. 295 00:15:39,680 --> 00:15:42,200 Speaker 1: During that NBC interview, Trump. 296 00:15:41,960 --> 00:15:45,840 Speaker 2: Was asked if he still believed that Christinome was delivering 297 00:15:45,920 --> 00:15:47,840 Speaker 2: on his vision of immigration. 298 00:15:48,320 --> 00:15:50,560 Speaker 4: Do you still believe in Christinome to deliver on your 299 00:15:50,600 --> 00:15:51,320 Speaker 4: vision of immigration? 300 00:15:51,560 --> 00:15:53,920 Speaker 6: Look, she was in charge of the border. The border's closed. 301 00:15:54,000 --> 00:15:56,480 Speaker 6: I mean, everybody gives me a plus on the border. 302 00:15:56,480 --> 00:15:59,120 Speaker 6: The border was a disaster. People were pouring into our country. 303 00:15:59,240 --> 00:16:00,840 Speaker 6: What about the try and come up? 304 00:16:00,880 --> 00:16:01,040 Speaker 2: Now? 305 00:16:01,080 --> 00:16:03,160 Speaker 6: You know the beautiful thing, the caravans. I think I 306 00:16:03,200 --> 00:16:06,320 Speaker 6: came up with that name. Thousands of people, twenty five 307 00:16:06,400 --> 00:16:07,800 Speaker 6: thirty thousand people. 308 00:16:07,480 --> 00:16:08,040 Speaker 3: In a group. 309 00:16:08,320 --> 00:16:10,880 Speaker 6: You know, who sent them their countries. They sent the 310 00:16:10,920 --> 00:16:13,920 Speaker 6: people that they didn't want, not only criminals, people that 311 00:16:13,960 --> 00:16:15,880 Speaker 6: didn't want to work hard, et cetera. They know what 312 00:16:15,880 --> 00:16:18,760 Speaker 6: it is. They sent them into our country. We have 313 00:16:18,840 --> 00:16:22,560 Speaker 6: nobody coming in anymore. We have very good you just 314 00:16:22,640 --> 00:16:26,080 Speaker 6: asked me, Christie. We have the best crime numbers that 315 00:16:26,120 --> 00:16:29,080 Speaker 6: we've had in one hundred and twenty five years. I 316 00:16:29,080 --> 00:16:33,640 Speaker 6: think she's doing a very good job. Again, public relations. 317 00:16:34,200 --> 00:16:37,360 Speaker 6: She's not getting credit for the job that she does well. 318 00:16:37,400 --> 00:16:39,480 Speaker 1: The numbers say that she is doing a pretty good job. 319 00:16:39,640 --> 00:16:39,840 Speaker 3: Yeah. 320 00:16:39,840 --> 00:16:42,920 Speaker 4: Sure, And he just explained it right there, public relations. 321 00:16:43,240 --> 00:16:45,320 Speaker 4: The public thinks she's not doing a good job when 322 00:16:45,320 --> 00:16:47,800 Speaker 4: the data says something different. But we all know that 323 00:16:48,080 --> 00:16:52,440 Speaker 4: public relations and the narrative and the story are important 324 00:16:52,560 --> 00:16:54,840 Speaker 4: and they can't be ignored, which is why Trump is 325 00:16:54,920 --> 00:16:56,200 Speaker 4: kind of doing this mini drawdown. 326 00:16:56,240 --> 00:16:57,000 Speaker 3: It's similar to what. 327 00:16:56,880 --> 00:16:59,680 Speaker 4: We saw here in Indianapolis. Several months ago. We had 328 00:16:59,720 --> 00:17:02,800 Speaker 4: some high profile violent incidents happened in the city and 329 00:17:03,320 --> 00:17:05,360 Speaker 4: members of the mayor's staff came out and. 330 00:17:05,320 --> 00:17:07,160 Speaker 3: Said, oh, but look at the data. 331 00:17:07,240 --> 00:17:09,439 Speaker 4: The data shows our crime is down, and everybody in 332 00:17:09,440 --> 00:17:11,760 Speaker 4: the community was like, yeah, yeah, who cares. People are still, 333 00:17:11,840 --> 00:17:14,919 Speaker 4: you know, getting violently attacked downtown. So you can't ignore 334 00:17:14,920 --> 00:17:17,800 Speaker 4: the data. You can't ignore the public relations part of this, 335 00:17:17,880 --> 00:17:19,920 Speaker 4: and the storylines that are being told, and that's why 336 00:17:19,960 --> 00:17:22,960 Speaker 4: Donald Trump is making this adjustment. Look, I don't think 337 00:17:22,960 --> 00:17:26,080 Speaker 4: anybody is going to accuse Donald Trump of going soft 338 00:17:26,119 --> 00:17:28,840 Speaker 4: on immigration. That's just not who he is and that's 339 00:17:28,880 --> 00:17:30,520 Speaker 4: just not the truth on this. But it is a 340 00:17:30,560 --> 00:17:31,879 Speaker 4: bit of an adjustment, that's all. 341 00:17:31,880 --> 00:17:34,000 Speaker 2: A lot of people were upset though with the announcement 342 00:17:34,040 --> 00:17:36,680 Speaker 2: that these seven hundred federal officers were being pulled out 343 00:17:36,720 --> 00:17:38,880 Speaker 2: of Minnesota, but as you mentioned, there are still some 344 00:17:38,880 --> 00:17:42,720 Speaker 2: two thousand left there. Plainfield Community School Corporation they sent 345 00:17:42,800 --> 00:17:46,600 Speaker 2: a formal warning home to families and students. That warning 346 00:17:46,680 --> 00:17:50,040 Speaker 2: is about that student organized walkout which is planned for Friday. 347 00:17:50,080 --> 00:17:53,040 Speaker 2: I believe these superintendents said that students have the right 348 00:17:53,080 --> 00:17:57,320 Speaker 2: to express themselves, but school hours are for learning students, 349 00:17:57,320 --> 00:17:59,040 Speaker 2: safety and order come first. 350 00:17:59,320 --> 00:17:59,520 Speaker 5: Yeah. 351 00:17:59,680 --> 00:18:03,880 Speaker 4: I think this goes back to how are these school 352 00:18:03,920 --> 00:18:09,240 Speaker 4: districts treating absences from kids? And we started this, you know, 353 00:18:09,320 --> 00:18:11,440 Speaker 4: several weeks ago, and we had the story from libs 354 00:18:11,440 --> 00:18:13,920 Speaker 4: of TikTok and social media about this happening in Carmel, 355 00:18:14,000 --> 00:18:16,879 Speaker 4: And what Karmel did was basically say, Hey, if you 356 00:18:16,920 --> 00:18:18,919 Speaker 4: want to leave and go protest, you have to follow 357 00:18:18,960 --> 00:18:22,120 Speaker 4: the normal procedures that take place whenever you're not going 358 00:18:22,160 --> 00:18:24,119 Speaker 4: to be at school. It'll be interesting to see what, 359 00:18:24,160 --> 00:18:26,000 Speaker 4: you know if Plainfield sounds like they're taking a little 360 00:18:26,000 --> 00:18:28,720 Speaker 4: bit of a harder, you know, tack on this. But 361 00:18:28,800 --> 00:18:30,960 Speaker 4: I think what most of the community wants is just 362 00:18:31,080 --> 00:18:33,240 Speaker 4: treat this the way you would treat anything else. And 363 00:18:33,320 --> 00:18:36,520 Speaker 4: because these students want to go protest ice, okay, great, 364 00:18:37,240 --> 00:18:39,520 Speaker 4: are you going to have the same procedures if you 365 00:18:39,520 --> 00:18:42,359 Speaker 4: have a group of students that want to protest something 366 00:18:42,440 --> 00:18:46,159 Speaker 4: based on conservative values and not necessarily liberal values. If 367 00:18:46,160 --> 00:18:48,600 Speaker 4: a group of students wanted to go and form an 368 00:18:48,600 --> 00:18:52,360 Speaker 4: anti abortion protest and leave school to do that, are 369 00:18:52,400 --> 00:18:55,280 Speaker 4: you treating them the same as the students that want 370 00:18:55,320 --> 00:18:57,240 Speaker 4: to leave school for these ice protests. 371 00:18:57,280 --> 00:19:00,000 Speaker 2: The district said any students who leave could receive unexcused 372 00:19:00,040 --> 00:19:02,320 Speaker 2: used absences unless preapproved. 373 00:19:02,840 --> 00:19:04,720 Speaker 1: It is ninety three WIBC. 374 00:19:15,040 --> 00:19:17,880 Speaker 2: What is happening with the Save Act? Well, Republicans officialing 375 00:19:17,920 --> 00:19:19,840 Speaker 2: the Senate to take up the Save Act of Voting 376 00:19:19,880 --> 00:19:23,199 Speaker 2: reform bill. The bill would require proof of US citizenship 377 00:19:23,200 --> 00:19:27,399 Speaker 2: when registering to vote and also require photo ID when voting. 378 00:19:27,560 --> 00:19:29,040 Speaker 1: Save Act has already passed the House. 379 00:19:29,080 --> 00:19:31,640 Speaker 2: Now, GOP leaders say the bill is a common sense 380 00:19:31,680 --> 00:19:36,960 Speaker 2: safeguard necessary to protect election integrity and supported by a 381 00:19:37,200 --> 00:19:38,240 Speaker 2: majority of voters. 382 00:19:38,240 --> 00:19:40,000 Speaker 1: We discussed that a little bit yesterday. 383 00:19:40,080 --> 00:19:43,719 Speaker 2: Yes, a majority of voters, over seventy percent of people 384 00:19:43,760 --> 00:19:49,320 Speaker 2: across all demographics agree that, yeah, we should have the 385 00:19:49,440 --> 00:19:52,320 Speaker 2: Save Act. And you've got the Vice President jd. Vance, 386 00:19:52,680 --> 00:19:55,240 Speaker 2: he has endorsed the Save Act as well. 387 00:19:56,440 --> 00:19:58,280 Speaker 3: There's a bill, right, the Save Act. 388 00:19:58,800 --> 00:19:59,680 Speaker 7: Let's get the Save Act. 389 00:19:59,680 --> 00:20:01,040 Speaker 4: No, what's going to happen with that? 390 00:20:01,320 --> 00:20:03,840 Speaker 7: Well, we're working very hard right now to get the 391 00:20:03,880 --> 00:20:05,960 Speaker 7: Senate to approve it because of the sin to proves 392 00:20:06,000 --> 00:20:08,000 Speaker 7: that we think the House would approve it to now, 393 00:20:08,040 --> 00:20:11,880 Speaker 7: that would require I think some Republican senators who maybe 394 00:20:11,920 --> 00:20:14,320 Speaker 7: they're a little too attached to the filibuster, maybe they're 395 00:20:14,320 --> 00:20:16,960 Speaker 7: a little too attached to Senate procedure. This is about 396 00:20:17,000 --> 00:20:20,840 Speaker 7: the integrity of American democracy, Like, do the people control 397 00:20:21,200 --> 00:20:26,280 Speaker 7: who they elect or do some shady people who actually 398 00:20:26,320 --> 00:20:28,480 Speaker 7: controls the people who cast the ballots or the people 399 00:20:28,480 --> 00:20:31,639 Speaker 7: who count the ballots. We want the sovereignty to be 400 00:20:31,720 --> 00:20:34,640 Speaker 7: with the people who cast the ballots, and that's why 401 00:20:34,680 --> 00:20:36,080 Speaker 7: we have to get the Save actpacity. 402 00:20:36,080 --> 00:20:36,800 Speaker 3: You'll hear people. 403 00:20:36,680 --> 00:20:38,639 Speaker 7: Say all the time, and I love this argument. 404 00:20:38,800 --> 00:20:40,720 Speaker 3: They'll say, well, if you look. 405 00:20:40,520 --> 00:20:43,920 Speaker 7: At this precinct, you know only three illegal aliens voted 406 00:20:43,920 --> 00:20:47,800 Speaker 7: in this election. Number one, that's three legal aliens too many. 407 00:20:48,040 --> 00:20:49,160 Speaker 3: And number two, if. 408 00:20:49,080 --> 00:20:51,560 Speaker 7: It's not a big problem, then why not just allow 409 00:20:51,680 --> 00:20:55,879 Speaker 7: us to check ID and exercise some basic precautions to 410 00:20:55,920 --> 00:20:59,040 Speaker 7: prevent illegal aliens from voting. I never quite understand the 411 00:20:59,040 --> 00:21:02,080 Speaker 7: person who says, on the one hand, this never happens, 412 00:21:02,320 --> 00:21:05,159 Speaker 7: and on the other hand, your effort to prevent it 413 00:21:05,200 --> 00:21:07,720 Speaker 7: from happening is a threat to American democracy, which is 414 00:21:07,720 --> 00:21:10,199 Speaker 7: fundamentally the democrats argument. By the way, it's like an 415 00:21:10,240 --> 00:21:14,560 Speaker 7: eighty five to fifteen issue. Yeah, most Democrats want voter 416 00:21:14,680 --> 00:21:17,000 Speaker 7: ID because they want to protect their own vote. 417 00:21:17,040 --> 00:21:18,919 Speaker 3: See, elected leaders don't like the leaders. 418 00:21:18,680 --> 00:21:21,680 Speaker 7: Don't because they know that the more control they give 419 00:21:21,720 --> 00:21:24,199 Speaker 7: to the people who are counting the ballots as opposed 420 00:21:24,240 --> 00:21:26,760 Speaker 7: to those who are casting the ballots, the more control 421 00:21:26,840 --> 00:21:27,359 Speaker 7: they will have. 422 00:21:28,119 --> 00:21:29,600 Speaker 1: So he was citing some numbers. 423 00:21:29,640 --> 00:21:32,399 Speaker 2: The latest polling says seventy one percent of Democrats support 424 00:21:32,480 --> 00:21:36,960 Speaker 2: voter ID, ninety five percent of Republicans support voter ID. 425 00:21:37,359 --> 00:21:40,719 Speaker 2: The bill's future in the Senate unclear. You've got the 426 00:21:40,760 --> 00:21:43,280 Speaker 2: majority leader John Thune, who said that the vote will 427 00:21:43,320 --> 00:21:48,800 Speaker 2: happen at some point. He also didn't indicate a timeline, 428 00:21:49,119 --> 00:21:53,760 Speaker 2: said Senate rules and Democratic opposition is what's making it difficult. 429 00:21:54,080 --> 00:21:56,840 Speaker 2: But you've got the majority across parties supporting proof of 430 00:21:56,920 --> 00:22:00,360 Speaker 2: citizenship for first time registration. If you need an ID 431 00:22:00,520 --> 00:22:03,720 Speaker 2: to board a plane, or to buy alcohol, or to 432 00:22:03,760 --> 00:22:08,240 Speaker 2: open a bank account, asking someone who wants to vote 433 00:22:08,760 --> 00:22:13,280 Speaker 2: for ID, it's it's not suppression, that's just basic security. 434 00:22:14,119 --> 00:22:17,680 Speaker 4: I think the Republicans they need to ramp up their 435 00:22:17,720 --> 00:22:20,200 Speaker 4: messaging on this if they expect to get this passed. 436 00:22:20,240 --> 00:22:22,520 Speaker 4: The Democrats in the leadership, despite the fact that we 437 00:22:22,520 --> 00:22:23,439 Speaker 4: talked about the polling. 438 00:22:23,640 --> 00:22:24,879 Speaker 3: We talked about the polling yesterday. 439 00:22:24,920 --> 00:22:26,679 Speaker 4: I think it was sixty to sixty five percent of 440 00:22:26,880 --> 00:22:31,760 Speaker 4: Democrats support voter ID laws. Democrats supporting voter idea thas 441 00:22:31,760 --> 00:22:34,919 Speaker 4: obviously it was like ninety five percent of Republicans support it. 442 00:22:35,600 --> 00:22:39,640 Speaker 4: But the Democrat leadership, especially in the Senate, and remember 443 00:22:39,800 --> 00:22:42,160 Speaker 4: they need sixty votes in the Senate to be able 444 00:22:42,160 --> 00:22:45,080 Speaker 4: to avoid a filibuster to get anything passed. Those the 445 00:22:45,119 --> 00:22:48,600 Speaker 4: Democrat senators the Democrat leadership in the Senate are going 446 00:22:48,640 --> 00:22:52,080 Speaker 4: to hold out like grim death to this. They are 447 00:22:52,160 --> 00:22:55,440 Speaker 4: not going to let this leave their hands because they 448 00:22:55,560 --> 00:22:59,120 Speaker 4: know it will directly hurt them in elections. Look line 449 00:22:59,200 --> 00:23:01,880 Speaker 4: up all this circumstantial evidence around this that we've seen 450 00:23:01,920 --> 00:23:05,080 Speaker 4: the last few years. Biden lets in tons of illegal 451 00:23:05,080 --> 00:23:08,119 Speaker 4: immigrants for four years while he's president. Let's say ten million, 452 00:23:08,359 --> 00:23:11,080 Speaker 4: that's probably somewhere in the middle, probably close to it. 453 00:23:11,920 --> 00:23:14,560 Speaker 4: Plenty of them, we know for a factor voting. Plenty 454 00:23:14,600 --> 00:23:17,040 Speaker 4: of them, especially in blue states, do not have any 455 00:23:17,080 --> 00:23:19,760 Speaker 4: voter ID laws, so we have no idea really who 456 00:23:19,800 --> 00:23:23,320 Speaker 4: is actually voting. You've got mass mail in unaccountable voting 457 00:23:23,400 --> 00:23:26,159 Speaker 4: taking place in many states around the country. 458 00:23:26,200 --> 00:23:28,359 Speaker 3: This is something that. 459 00:23:28,240 --> 00:23:32,160 Speaker 4: The Democrats in the Senate know that if this passes, 460 00:23:32,280 --> 00:23:35,600 Speaker 4: it will make it tougher for Democrats to win elections. 461 00:23:35,760 --> 00:23:37,479 Speaker 4: And they are not going to go easily. They are 462 00:23:37,480 --> 00:23:40,880 Speaker 4: not going to go quietly. And if this administration wants 463 00:23:40,920 --> 00:23:43,000 Speaker 4: to get this Save Act passed, they're going to have 464 00:23:43,040 --> 00:23:45,320 Speaker 4: to ramp up their messaging in their outreach and push 465 00:23:45,359 --> 00:23:45,920 Speaker 4: the pressure. 466 00:23:46,119 --> 00:23:46,560 Speaker 3: Pull it up. 467 00:23:46,640 --> 00:23:49,800 Speaker 4: You put even more pressure on Democrat leadership in the Senate. 468 00:23:49,880 --> 00:23:52,680 Speaker 2: Well, they may have to change their strategy. You've got 469 00:23:52,720 --> 00:23:55,000 Speaker 2: the Speaker of the House, Mike Johnson. He's saying that 470 00:23:55,080 --> 00:23:57,960 Speaker 2: it is a top priority for not only the GOP 471 00:23:58,119 --> 00:24:00,240 Speaker 2: but also at the White House. The White House saying 472 00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:04,679 Speaker 2: it's popular and reasonable. So now they're discussing changing or 473 00:24:04,760 --> 00:24:08,439 Speaker 2: bypassing the Senate filibuster rules and move the bill forward. 474 00:24:08,560 --> 00:24:12,080 Speaker 2: So it's a strategy move. They have to discuss and 475 00:24:12,119 --> 00:24:14,760 Speaker 2: decide what they want to do. How far they're going 476 00:24:14,800 --> 00:24:15,320 Speaker 2: to push it. 477 00:24:15,400 --> 00:24:16,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, and I think they're probably going to push this 478 00:24:17,040 --> 00:24:20,040 Speaker 4: really far. But again, you know, and they do have 479 00:24:20,119 --> 00:24:22,960 Speaker 4: that fail safe bailout that they can change for this 480 00:24:23,000 --> 00:24:26,239 Speaker 4: specific building and change the filibuster rules and not have 481 00:24:26,280 --> 00:24:30,040 Speaker 4: to get those sixty Senators to vote to not filibuster it. 482 00:24:30,240 --> 00:24:32,680 Speaker 4: But this is the Democrat senators are not going. 483 00:24:32,600 --> 00:24:33,439 Speaker 3: To go quietly on this. 484 00:24:33,480 --> 00:24:35,639 Speaker 4: They're going to fight this tooth and nail with every 485 00:24:35,680 --> 00:24:38,400 Speaker 4: fiber of their being because they know if it passes, 486 00:24:38,560 --> 00:24:42,280 Speaker 4: it makes it harder for Democrats to win elections. That's 487 00:24:42,320 --> 00:24:44,359 Speaker 4: the bottom line. They're not going to give up that 488 00:24:44,440 --> 00:24:46,680 Speaker 4: power very easily, and they're not going to do it quietly. 489 00:24:47,000 --> 00:24:50,159 Speaker 2: So you have the Treasury Secretary Scott Bessen. He was 490 00:24:50,200 --> 00:24:54,200 Speaker 2: facing some criticism from House Democrats. This happened yesterday during 491 00:24:54,240 --> 00:24:58,880 Speaker 2: a hearing, and this clip got my attention. You've got 492 00:24:58,920 --> 00:25:02,800 Speaker 2: Maxine Waters and it's number six Kevin, and she's going 493 00:25:02,840 --> 00:25:09,360 Speaker 2: off on this unhinged Grant repeatedly talking over the Secretary 494 00:25:09,440 --> 00:25:13,320 Speaker 2: of the Treasury, and then when she gets finished, you've 495 00:25:13,320 --> 00:25:17,600 Speaker 2: got besn't just going back with one of his trademark daggers. 496 00:25:17,640 --> 00:25:22,760 Speaker 5: Listen to this and on housing affordability and putting the 497 00:25:22,760 --> 00:25:23,920 Speaker 5: economy everyway? 498 00:25:24,040 --> 00:25:26,560 Speaker 3: Yes, and no, you don't have to represent what will 499 00:25:26,600 --> 00:25:27,120 Speaker 3: you be the boss? 500 00:25:27,200 --> 00:25:27,520 Speaker 5: You see? 501 00:25:27,560 --> 00:25:30,320 Speaker 3: Will you be the vice? Will you be the boss? 502 00:25:30,320 --> 00:25:32,879 Speaker 1: Will you be the boss? And will you be the boss? 503 00:25:32,920 --> 00:25:38,920 Speaker 3: Study study for reclaiming my time? Reclaiming my time, reclaiming. 504 00:25:38,280 --> 00:25:39,200 Speaker 6: That time. 505 00:25:40,920 --> 00:25:41,400 Speaker 3: Immigrats. 506 00:25:42,680 --> 00:25:47,520 Speaker 2: You know Tom does to house a woman on Califord 507 00:25:48,080 --> 00:25:51,280 Speaker 2: ten and twenty million immigrants. Can you shet a housing 508 00:25:51,800 --> 00:25:54,080 Speaker 2: housing stock of working Americans? 509 00:25:54,320 --> 00:25:55,760 Speaker 1: And can you maintain. 510 00:25:55,480 --> 00:25:58,680 Speaker 3: Some level of life? His time has expired, My time 511 00:25:58,720 --> 00:25:59,600 Speaker 3: has not expected. 512 00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:02,560 Speaker 2: Was she really interested in answers or does she just 513 00:26:02,560 --> 00:26:03,560 Speaker 2: want a spectacle there? 514 00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:05,800 Speaker 4: She just wanted a sound club. But look at what 515 00:26:05,840 --> 00:26:08,399 Speaker 4: she was doing there. She was saying repeatedly, can you 516 00:26:08,440 --> 00:26:11,280 Speaker 4: be reasonable? Can you be reasonable? While she's sounding like 517 00:26:11,320 --> 00:26:14,920 Speaker 4: a crazy person, repeating it over and over again, her 518 00:26:15,119 --> 00:26:18,720 Speaker 4: clearly not being reasonable, asking if he's going to be recent. 519 00:26:19,320 --> 00:26:22,560 Speaker 2: Instead of debating the policies they were, they were there 520 00:26:22,600 --> 00:26:25,640 Speaker 2: to talk about inflation and housing costs and over regulation. 521 00:26:26,080 --> 00:26:30,400 Speaker 2: Instead it just turned into this insults and theatrics. And 522 00:26:30,680 --> 00:26:33,640 Speaker 2: if you want to know why nothing ever gets done 523 00:26:33,680 --> 00:26:38,320 Speaker 2: in Washington, there's exhibit A, and here is exhibit B. 524 00:26:38,880 --> 00:26:42,120 Speaker 3: On behalf. I take that of your don't you want 525 00:26:42,119 --> 00:26:46,119 Speaker 3: to add? I take that as a note for a 526 00:26:46,240 --> 00:26:49,320 Speaker 3: seven billion time asking your. 527 00:26:49,040 --> 00:26:53,080 Speaker 8: Responsibility as Secretary of the treasure in Venezuela. 528 00:26:53,119 --> 00:27:01,520 Speaker 3: You do not make you ask your time, mister Chamman. No, 529 00:27:01,600 --> 00:27:04,399 Speaker 3: And he did not answer my question, or he wouldn't 530 00:27:04,440 --> 00:27:04,600 Speaker 3: want to. 531 00:27:05,600 --> 00:27:07,600 Speaker 2: He had six seconds left to try to. 532 00:27:09,160 --> 00:27:11,160 Speaker 3: It was a yes and no. It was a yes 533 00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:19,360 Speaker 3: and no answer. I asked him. Will called the President? Yeah, well, 534 00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:20,760 Speaker 3: stop being his flunky. 535 00:27:20,920 --> 00:27:25,240 Speaker 2: Oh okay, And gentlemen, gentlemen, you're just talking to me. 536 00:27:25,400 --> 00:27:28,200 Speaker 2: So that's Representative Gregory Meeks from New York who's calling 537 00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:31,480 Speaker 2: Besson a flunky for Trump. And they're all just talking 538 00:27:31,520 --> 00:27:34,320 Speaker 2: over one another. He said, you've got six seconds left. 539 00:27:34,520 --> 00:27:36,600 Speaker 2: It's like they're backtiming to the top of the hour 540 00:27:36,640 --> 00:27:37,840 Speaker 2: to reach the network news. 541 00:27:38,040 --> 00:27:41,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, all of these type of hearings have really no 542 00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:45,440 Speaker 4: real substance or meaning or anything that will come out 543 00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:48,040 Speaker 4: of them. They are done so that each party can 544 00:27:48,080 --> 00:27:50,719 Speaker 4: get their sound clip and push it out on social media. 545 00:27:50,880 --> 00:27:53,640 Speaker 4: That's certainly what what happened yesterday with these these sound 546 00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:56,359 Speaker 4: bites everywhere, although I think the Democrats kind of fumbled 547 00:27:56,359 --> 00:27:59,280 Speaker 4: the ball on it because Besson, who is just cool 548 00:27:59,320 --> 00:28:01,679 Speaker 4: as a q com. I mean, it is difficult to 549 00:28:01,720 --> 00:28:04,960 Speaker 4: get him rattled. He sat there. The Democrats are the 550 00:28:04,960 --> 00:28:09,160 Speaker 4: ones that look like idiots, yelling, screaming, repeating questions again 551 00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:09,600 Speaker 4: and again. 552 00:28:09,680 --> 00:28:11,199 Speaker 3: And if you look at the video best it's just 553 00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:12,080 Speaker 3: sitting there smiling. 554 00:28:12,440 --> 00:28:15,240 Speaker 1: Just call me, we talk about tariffs. Do you get 555 00:28:15,280 --> 00:28:17,239 Speaker 1: anything any answers out of any of that? 556 00:28:17,320 --> 00:28:19,480 Speaker 4: I don't think I heard the word tariffs once in 557 00:28:19,560 --> 00:28:22,040 Speaker 4: any of that. But it's designed to be it's designed 558 00:28:22,040 --> 00:28:25,080 Speaker 4: to generate sound bites for social media. And the problem 559 00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:27,800 Speaker 4: with this is is that a lot of members of 560 00:28:27,840 --> 00:28:30,960 Speaker 4: the Trump's cabinet are outstanding at this. I mean Trump 561 00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:34,800 Speaker 4: himself is great, but JD. Vance, Marco Rubio, Scott Bessen, 562 00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:38,440 Speaker 4: these guys are unflappable and kind of in their own 563 00:28:38,560 --> 00:28:42,240 Speaker 4: element in these house meetings. And most of these clips 564 00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:45,320 Speaker 4: turn out to be beneficial for Republicans and not the 565 00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:48,480 Speaker 4: Democrats that sound like lunatics answering these ques or asking 566 00:28:48,520 --> 00:28:49,120 Speaker 4: these questions. 567 00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:52,960 Speaker 2: So McDonald's is offering a chicken McNugget caviar kit, and 568 00:28:53,040 --> 00:28:54,640 Speaker 2: this is ahead of Valentine's Day. 569 00:28:55,760 --> 00:28:56,720 Speaker 1: That sounds disgusting. 570 00:28:57,200 --> 00:29:00,080 Speaker 2: Uh well, if caavy are for McDonald's, hey, well, even know, 571 00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:02,520 Speaker 2: if I want a burger for McDonald and want were when. 572 00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:06,640 Speaker 4: I'm thinking high grade seafood and caviar and fine dining, 573 00:29:06,720 --> 00:29:08,719 Speaker 4: the first thing I'm thinking of is McDonald's. 574 00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:09,880 Speaker 3: Of course, sure, So. 575 00:29:09,880 --> 00:29:11,120 Speaker 1: What's inside these kits? 576 00:29:11,160 --> 00:29:14,040 Speaker 2: It's got a one ounce tin of caviar, a twenty 577 00:29:14,080 --> 00:29:17,920 Speaker 2: five dollars McDonald's arch card so you can buy chicken McNuggets, 578 00:29:19,080 --> 00:29:21,320 Speaker 2: and a mother of pearl caviar spoon. 579 00:29:21,680 --> 00:29:25,200 Speaker 4: I'm not eating caviar from McDonald's from a plastic spoon, 580 00:29:25,520 --> 00:29:28,920 Speaker 4: even a metal spoon. I need a mother of pearl 581 00:29:29,040 --> 00:29:32,240 Speaker 4: caviar spoon to eat my McDonald's. 582 00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:33,160 Speaker 3: keV caviar. 583 00:29:33,880 --> 00:29:35,480 Speaker 1: This is peak America, right. 584 00:29:35,840 --> 00:29:39,600 Speaker 2: You got a fast food joint, you spend five bucks there, 585 00:29:39,920 --> 00:29:42,640 Speaker 2: and now they're trying to turn it into luxury dining. 586 00:29:42,800 --> 00:29:44,160 Speaker 4: Well, this has been going on with a lot of 587 00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:46,640 Speaker 4: fast food places years ago. I think Taco Bell was 588 00:29:46,640 --> 00:29:48,720 Speaker 4: probably the first to do this when they offered this 589 00:29:48,800 --> 00:29:52,280 Speaker 4: special Valentine's Day package at some of their locations where 590 00:29:52,280 --> 00:29:54,720 Speaker 4: you could get sit down service where a waiter or 591 00:29:54,760 --> 00:29:57,880 Speaker 4: waitress would come over to your table and take your order, 592 00:29:57,920 --> 00:30:00,680 Speaker 4: and you've got flowers and a candle at dinner. You 593 00:30:00,760 --> 00:30:04,160 Speaker 4: were still inside of a Taco Bell restaurant the entire time. 594 00:30:04,240 --> 00:30:07,080 Speaker 4: But this is some fun marketing for these fast food places. 595 00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:09,200 Speaker 3: But have you ever had caviar? 596 00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:09,920 Speaker 5: I don't. 597 00:30:10,200 --> 00:30:10,760 Speaker 1: I don't think so. 598 00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:13,120 Speaker 3: I don't think I've ever had it either, But from. 599 00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:15,080 Speaker 2: Ever, I certainly don't want my first taste to be 600 00:30:15,120 --> 00:30:15,920 Speaker 2: for McDonald's. 601 00:30:16,080 --> 00:30:19,080 Speaker 4: Right, And if you've never had caviar, maybe go a 602 00:30:19,120 --> 00:30:23,200 Speaker 4: couple levels up than McDonald's then McDonald's caviar. You know, 603 00:30:23,240 --> 00:30:26,320 Speaker 4: if nobody's ever had a hamburger before, don't take them 604 00:30:26,320 --> 00:30:29,560 Speaker 4: to McDonald's for a hamburger. Take them to a little 605 00:30:29,560 --> 00:30:32,479 Speaker 4: bit more high quality but this is a good marketing 606 00:30:32,480 --> 00:30:33,480 Speaker 4: push for McDonald's. 607 00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:35,960 Speaker 3: But I think I think the cost, the cost is a. 608 00:30:35,960 --> 00:30:37,719 Speaker 1: Good marketing push. I don't think it is. 609 00:30:38,120 --> 00:30:40,760 Speaker 4: The cost on it, I believe is one hundred dollars. 610 00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:44,640 Speaker 4: So caviar is not cheap, never has been. It's never been, 611 00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:46,760 Speaker 4: so I've never tried it. From everything I hear, it 612 00:30:46,880 --> 00:30:50,160 Speaker 4: is a very much an acquired taste, and I don't 613 00:30:50,160 --> 00:30:54,040 Speaker 4: have the kind of money to keep trying caviar again 614 00:30:54,080 --> 00:30:56,000 Speaker 4: and again and again until I like it. 615 00:30:56,080 --> 00:30:58,160 Speaker 3: That sounds like it's a really expensive prospect. 616 00:30:58,240 --> 00:31:03,560 Speaker 2: Apparently you have to pre order this online at Mcnuggetcaviard Doc. 617 00:31:04,400 --> 00:31:06,480 Speaker 3: Wait, I'm going there right now. Don't do anything. 618 00:31:06,920 --> 00:31:10,280 Speaker 2: It launches February tenth. By the way, you're listening to. 619 00:31:10,320 --> 00:31:17,640 Speaker 1: Ninety three WIBC. Coming up at ten o'clock. 620 00:31:17,720 --> 00:31:20,840 Speaker 2: Nicky Kelly from Indiana Capitol Chronicle is going to join us. 621 00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:25,040 Speaker 1: And guess who's in the news again, Jeffrey Epstein. 622 00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:27,600 Speaker 2: Well, yes, because it seems like I was talking about 623 00:31:27,800 --> 00:31:29,600 Speaker 2: Secretary of State Diego Morales. 624 00:31:29,600 --> 00:31:31,280 Speaker 3: Oh you're talking about I'm sorry you were talking about 625 00:31:31,360 --> 00:31:31,840 Speaker 3: Nicki Kelly. 626 00:31:31,880 --> 00:31:34,120 Speaker 4: Yes, Well, we'll talk a little bit about the Secretary 627 00:31:34,120 --> 00:31:36,240 Speaker 4: of State Diego Morales, what's. 628 00:31:36,120 --> 00:31:36,880 Speaker 1: Going on with him? 629 00:31:36,920 --> 00:31:39,760 Speaker 2: But you're right, you also have Epstein in the news, 630 00:31:39,800 --> 00:31:42,040 Speaker 2: of course, that new batch of Epstein related documents. 631 00:31:42,080 --> 00:31:43,640 Speaker 1: They were released almost a week ago. 632 00:31:44,080 --> 00:31:48,800 Speaker 2: Documents include emails that allegedly Epstein sent to himself in 633 00:31:48,920 --> 00:31:54,040 Speaker 2: July of twenty thirteen, mentioning Bill Gates. One of the 634 00:31:54,120 --> 00:31:57,400 Speaker 2: emails appeared to be drafted as if it were sent 635 00:31:57,480 --> 00:32:01,880 Speaker 2: to Gates, claiming that Gates was asking Epstein to delete 636 00:32:01,920 --> 00:32:07,120 Speaker 2: any emails about sexually transmitted diseases and that Epstein was 637 00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:14,240 Speaker 2: asked to help obtain antibiotics discreetly, okay, Bill Gate. 638 00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:18,120 Speaker 1: Now Bill Gates's ex wife, Melinda Frenchgates. 639 00:32:18,360 --> 00:32:21,200 Speaker 2: She said that Bill Gates her ex husband, he needs 640 00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:25,520 Speaker 2: to answer these questions about these new allegations tied to Epstein, 641 00:32:25,800 --> 00:32:29,520 Speaker 2: and she divorced him back in twenty one. She said 642 00:32:29,560 --> 00:32:33,440 Speaker 2: the situation brings back painful memories from their marriage. But 643 00:32:33,560 --> 00:32:37,280 Speaker 2: then here's Bill Gates and he's saying that he regrets 644 00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:42,200 Speaker 2: every minute he ever spent with Jeffrey Epstein and denies 645 00:32:42,440 --> 00:32:45,480 Speaker 2: that there's some std cover up allegation. 646 00:32:45,840 --> 00:32:47,680 Speaker 9: Do a lot of very rich people, and he was 647 00:32:47,720 --> 00:32:51,800 Speaker 9: saying he could get them to give money to Global Health. 648 00:32:52,280 --> 00:32:55,560 Speaker 9: You know, in retrospect that was a dead end, and 649 00:32:55,680 --> 00:32:57,760 Speaker 9: I was foolish to spend time with him. I was 650 00:32:57,800 --> 00:33:00,320 Speaker 9: one of many people who regret ever knowing him. 651 00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:03,400 Speaker 8: You've not at seeing the allegations, including some of them 652 00:33:03,400 --> 00:33:05,600 Speaker 8: from the last twenty four to forty eight hours. 653 00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:06,520 Speaker 3: Is that true? 654 00:33:07,720 --> 00:33:13,560 Speaker 9: No, Apparently Jeffrey wrote an email to himself that email 655 00:33:13,640 --> 00:33:17,880 Speaker 9: was never sent. The email is, you know, false. So 656 00:33:17,960 --> 00:33:20,160 Speaker 9: I don't know what his thinking was there. It just 657 00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:22,640 Speaker 9: reminds me, you know, every minute I spent with him, 658 00:33:22,680 --> 00:33:25,600 Speaker 9: I regret and I apologize that I did that. 659 00:33:26,240 --> 00:33:28,760 Speaker 8: The problem is some of the things that he has sent, 660 00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:31,480 Speaker 8: some of the information about other people that has come 661 00:33:31,560 --> 00:33:35,120 Speaker 8: up in those falls has been true. Why would he 662 00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:36,920 Speaker 8: do this and say this about you? 663 00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:39,640 Speaker 9: Do you think you know it's actually true that I 664 00:33:39,720 --> 00:33:42,400 Speaker 9: was only at dinners. You know, I never went to 665 00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:45,160 Speaker 9: the island, I never met any women. And so, you know, 666 00:33:45,160 --> 00:33:46,960 Speaker 9: the more that comes out, the more clear it'll be 667 00:33:48,400 --> 00:33:51,719 Speaker 9: that although the time was a mistake, it had nothing 668 00:33:51,800 --> 00:33:53,560 Speaker 9: to do with that kind of behavior. 669 00:33:54,040 --> 00:33:56,560 Speaker 2: So this Gate spokesperson said that all of these claims 670 00:33:56,600 --> 00:34:01,720 Speaker 2: were absolutely absurd, completely false, false. The emails should the 671 00:34:01,760 --> 00:34:05,080 Speaker 2: epscene is just trying to defame or in trap Gates 672 00:34:05,160 --> 00:34:09,680 Speaker 2: and that he has previously said that the relationship was 673 00:34:09,719 --> 00:34:13,520 Speaker 2: a huge mistake, and that's what he's continuing to say now. 674 00:34:13,560 --> 00:34:15,719 Speaker 2: But at the end of these day, end of the 675 00:34:15,800 --> 00:34:18,840 Speaker 2: day here, these powerful people, they don't get a pass 676 00:34:19,680 --> 00:34:23,680 Speaker 2: just because the accusations are messy or uncomfortable. There's a 677 00:34:23,719 --> 00:34:27,360 Speaker 2: lot of names that are showing up, and transparency matters. 678 00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:28,080 Speaker 1: No matter how. 679 00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:33,279 Speaker 2: Famous, wealthy, or politically connected you are, they have to 680 00:34:33,360 --> 00:34:35,440 Speaker 2: answer for wrongdoings. 681 00:34:35,560 --> 00:34:41,080 Speaker 4: I think what is the most grating, infuriating aspect of 682 00:34:41,080 --> 00:34:44,120 Speaker 4: this is that Bill Gates has spent the last ten, fifteen, 683 00:34:44,200 --> 00:34:47,360 Speaker 4: twenty years of his life as this one of the 684 00:34:47,480 --> 00:34:51,000 Speaker 4: richest men in the world, an absolute powerful elite, and 685 00:34:51,080 --> 00:34:54,680 Speaker 4: he has been constantly finger wagging at the rest of us, 686 00:34:54,680 --> 00:34:58,000 Speaker 4: whether it was on environmental issues and finger wagging at 687 00:34:58,040 --> 00:35:02,840 Speaker 4: us to reduce our carbon footprint and look for alternative fuels. Meanwhile, 688 00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:06,760 Speaker 4: this guy owns many massive mansions. I'm talking like sixty 689 00:35:06,840 --> 00:35:10,200 Speaker 4: thousand square foot mansions across the world. He flies on 690 00:35:10,239 --> 00:35:13,160 Speaker 4: a private jet everywhere. He sat there and wagged his 691 00:35:13,160 --> 00:35:14,880 Speaker 4: finger at us to you know, wear a mask in 692 00:35:14,920 --> 00:35:17,799 Speaker 4: public during COVID to go get our vaccine, and now 693 00:35:17,840 --> 00:35:20,279 Speaker 4: it turns out that on the surface looks like he 694 00:35:20,360 --> 00:35:21,240 Speaker 4: was a dirt bag. 695 00:35:21,080 --> 00:35:21,839 Speaker 3: The entire time. 696 00:35:21,880 --> 00:35:24,360 Speaker 4: And one of the allegations is is that he wanted 697 00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:27,440 Speaker 4: to get prescription medication for this STD so that he 698 00:35:27,440 --> 00:35:31,160 Speaker 4: could secretly put it in his wife's food so that 699 00:35:31,239 --> 00:35:33,600 Speaker 4: she wouldn't find out in case he ended up giving. 700 00:35:33,320 --> 00:35:37,920 Speaker 3: It to her. Just infuriating. This is why people hate 701 00:35:37,960 --> 00:35:40,000 Speaker 3: the elites in this country. At this point in time 702 00:35:40,920 --> 00:35:43,120 Speaker 1: You're listening to ninety three WIBC