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Speaker 3: watching Skeleton more than Skeleton Crew.
Speaker 2: This is the turn shift.
Speaker 3: Uh yeah, yeah it is. But yeah, man, we here
Speaker 3: to talk about the new Avatar movie that just dropped,
Speaker 3: Fire and Ash, which is the third movie. And in
Speaker 3: this in the collection from James Cameron, What up we
Speaker 3: them boys? God King? What up? Appreciate everybody joining us.
Speaker 3: I know you gots. Some of you guys maybe just
Speaker 3: not be getting out of church all right, so talking
Speaker 3: about Fire and.
Speaker 2: Ash this is the wrong conversation for them.
Speaker 3: Right, But but yeah, man, glad. Everybody's here, man. So
Speaker 3: you know, it's the holiday season, so we had some folks,
Speaker 3: we had some scheduling conflicts. So you know, Uh, Spike
Speaker 3: is out. You see her. You see who's here.
Speaker 4: So everybody out, but can right.
Speaker 3: Right? All right? So anyway, here we go. We're gonna
Speaker 3: get into this movie. It just dropped fire and ash.
Speaker 4: What up?
Speaker 3: Everybody? Welcome to a new episode of the Frames per
Speaker 3: Second Podcast, live live version of James Cameron hit series. Uh,
Speaker 3: this is Avatar. This is the third movie, which I think.
Speaker 3: I don't know why. I thought I saw he was
Speaker 3: doing five of these.
Speaker 2: I thought it was four. I thought it was four,
Speaker 2: but I think it is five.
Speaker 4: That's his plan, that is his plan.
Speaker 3: I think he'll get it. I think he'll he'll he'll
Speaker 3: he'll get to five four four if that's the plan.
Speaker 3: But well we'll see if it's worth him doing a
Speaker 3: fourth one after we finished the discussing this one. So
Speaker 3: so we appreciate you guys. My name is Kennethy and
Speaker 3: joined him on the show is Nick and Jalen? What up?
Speaker 2: What's going on?
Speaker 4: What's happening y'all? Man? What's good? That's good? That's good.
Speaker 4: I'm very excited to talk about this film.
Speaker 3: I don't know why. I don't know why. Well, for
Speaker 3: those of you that are not familiar with Avatar, which
Speaker 3: I don't know how that's possible because the first one
Speaker 3: dropped in two thousand and nine, I think you know.
Speaker 3: It's a twenty twenty five American epic science fiction film
Speaker 3: directed by James Cameron, Rick Haffa and Amanda silver corotha screenplay.
Speaker 3: And you have who's starring in it. I think one
Speaker 3: of the guys we just talked about Nick in SISU.
Speaker 3: But you have Sam Worthington as Jake Sully, Zoe Zodana
Speaker 3: as Natieri, Sigourney Weaver makes an appearance, Stephen Lane is
Speaker 3: Cartage and he's back, and some other folks. So, man, yeah,
Speaker 3: let's let's get into it. Man. Nick thoughts of the
Speaker 3: movie then you started with me.
Speaker 2: I saw this Thursday night, because yeah, we recorded Thursday,
Speaker 2: so I went to go see it later on that night.
Speaker 2: Because I'll say this first and foremost, I did not
Speaker 2: see this in three D. I didn't care to see
Speaker 2: it in three D. To me, after the first one,
Speaker 2: you can't recapture that. So I watched the second one
Speaker 2: in three D, and then I was just like, all right, yeah,
Speaker 2: the next whatever, however he finishes this, I'm just fine
Speaker 2: with the scene in the regular Adobe version and whatnot.
Speaker 2: Overall thoughts, this is p probably going to be If
Speaker 2: someone was to say that, like, this is like the
Speaker 2: best action adventure sci fi movie of the year, I
Speaker 2: couldn't necessarily disagree with that. But overall for me, this
Speaker 2: was not good. Like, visually it's a ten out of ten.
Speaker 2: Story wise, it's like four out of ten, so entertainment
Speaker 2: value is there, but this is the one off for me,
Speaker 2: I would never return to this movie. This is I
Speaker 2: can't even say it's super high it's I guess it's
Speaker 2: high end cheeks. I don't know how to describe it
Speaker 2: can but it's just like, if you just focus, if
Speaker 2: you're someone who cares about story, this is a terrible movie.
Speaker 2: If it's someone who cares about visuals, this is a
Speaker 2: great movie.
Speaker 3: Okay, uh yeah, I didn't see it in three D either,
Speaker 3: but uh but yeah, and I think I watched the
Speaker 3: second one in three D. But what about your Jalen,
Speaker 3: what'd you think about it?
Speaker 1: I think it's I think it's why I I think
Speaker 1: one thing that the movie really suffers from is.
Speaker 4: It hits the same beats.
Speaker 1: Isn't two, Like it's not really any true things that
Speaker 1: they built upon from two, which I think two is
Speaker 1: the best one out of all three of them. There
Speaker 1: was a couple of things in here that if they
Speaker 1: would have did what I expected them to do, it
Speaker 1: probably would have probably would have been so much better.
Speaker 4: I saw it in three D. It looked amazing.
Speaker 1: It it it it, I mean, it always looks amazing,
Speaker 1: like you really think this is really It honestly makes
Speaker 1: me disappointed now when I be thinking about Damn Marvel,
Speaker 1: It'll be like, bro, like this the kind of cgi
Speaker 1: that is out there, and y'all be giving us that
Speaker 1: fucking slut like, yeah, but this is a this was
Speaker 1: this it's a good it's a great experience. It's a
Speaker 1: long gas experience. That's that's the issue, and that you're
Speaker 1: in the theater forever.
Speaker 4: But it's it's just super alright, man, It's just it's super.
Speaker 4: I I take you, I take you your rating, Nick,
Speaker 4: and I put supid on it.
Speaker 2: I don't even I could give it that Ken, I
Speaker 2: don't know what.
Speaker 3: You said, Uh, James Cameron did his thing. Man. I
Speaker 3: think that. Uh, And I think that's the visuals of it.
Speaker 3: Like when you watch, especially when you get to the fight,
Speaker 3: you know you're watching this thing, You're like, damn bro,
Speaker 3: Like he he really has this world down in terms
Speaker 3: of like the creatures, how they fought eight et cetera,
Speaker 3: et cetera. Yeah, I think I think he's nailed at
Speaker 3: So I think he's really good at that. I think
Speaker 3: the biggest issue and why it's struggling at the box
Speaker 3: office comparatively to their expectations and what it has done
Speaker 3: historically is the runtime. You know, you got a three
Speaker 3: hour and seventeen minute movie and you constrict the viewing
Speaker 3: times to most of the viewings to three D, and
Speaker 3: you can't. I saw it in DOBE. I may go
Speaker 3: back and watch it in three D, but I don't
Speaker 3: know if I'll stay for the whole movie. Maybe I'll
Speaker 3: just buy my tickets since I got the MC premiere thing,
Speaker 3: and just go for the final act, the last hour,
Speaker 3: so I could watch the fight in three D. But yeah,
Speaker 3: I think it suffers from how long the movie is.
Speaker 3: Like you, Nick, I watched this movie late eleven thirty.
Speaker 3: I get there. We were talking about this a little
Speaker 3: bit on is the Maistillona didn't go into full details,
Speaker 3: but they were fifteen minutes late showing the movie because
Speaker 3: the sound wasn't on at the theater I went to,
Speaker 3: and then they had to restart everything, so I didn't
Speaker 3: get home until three, and so I was like, man,
Speaker 3: and I couldn't find any good times a lot. I
Speaker 3: do not want to go see this movie. The runtime
Speaker 3: was the issue, and when you're watching it first hour,
Speaker 3: second hour, you're seeing a lot of shit that didn't
Speaker 3: need to be in this three hours.
Speaker 2: Bruh man, this this is this is the ultimate director's cut.
Speaker 2: This is this is why this is this movie proves
Speaker 2: by studio execs still matter, because then if somebody, if
Speaker 2: James Cameron sent this to me as the final I'm like, nigga,
Speaker 2: cut this down by an hour, like make this two hours,
Speaker 2: Like this really is only a two hour movie. That's
Speaker 2: bloviated because I think this is the longest running movie
Speaker 2: of the whole series so far. I think even two
Speaker 2: was a little bit less than less than this.
Speaker 1: And then honest, this ship is an hour because a
Speaker 1: lot of shit that happened in this movie happening.
Speaker 2: Number two well, I'm just well, I'm saying because there
Speaker 2: there are certain good elements to the story, it's just
Speaker 2: that they're they're trying to compact like six to seven
Speaker 2: different things that you want to are supposed to care about,
Speaker 2: when really it's only two. Like I only came into
Speaker 2: like watching this first movie. I really love the family
Speaker 2: dynamic of what's his name is, Sully whatever his name
Speaker 2: is same more than his character dealing with the death
Speaker 2: of his son blaming that on his other son, his
Speaker 2: wife basically saying like I don't even know who my
Speaker 2: family is anymore based off all the cloning and and
Speaker 2: then adopting like she didn't ask for this blended family kid.
Speaker 2: She just she the baby mama who doesn't like the
Speaker 2: kid that you had, the side baby that you had
Speaker 2: with the with the chet Hanks white boy running around
Speaker 2: in this movie. So to me, it was a lot
Speaker 2: of shit that I really didn't need. But I can
Speaker 2: I could justify to our movie just because of the epic,
Speaker 2: like the adventure the world. I think people really like
Speaker 2: returning to this world. It's just that where we focus
Speaker 2: on it's just like, bro, we got all this other shit.
Speaker 2: We could probably talk about our deal with why do
Speaker 2: we keep returning to these same the same plot line?
Speaker 2: Like someone mentioned, I think I was listen to another
Speaker 2: podcast so much. It's kind of like Dragon Ball Z
Speaker 2: where it's like we're seeing Goku and Vega fight once again.
Speaker 2: It's like, all right, like how many times is he
Speaker 2: gonna have to fight cuz like or have or or
Speaker 2: I think they even had the same people for the
Speaker 2: most part from the first film. The same villains come
Speaker 2: back again. It's just like like I don't care, Like
Speaker 2: we already did this in in O nine, Like why
Speaker 2: do we need to redo it again?
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's it's it's a continuation from the second film
Speaker 3: with now the sky people. I don't know if they're
Speaker 3: the sky people, but yeah, the ash people, that's what.
Speaker 1: The that's whats.
Speaker 2: Hey and ask niggas to kid because they do is
Speaker 2: still they don't ship and they all smoke two kids.
Speaker 3: Hell yeah. So yeah, I think definitely, Like you know,
Speaker 3: when it opened up, they spent so much time, like
Speaker 3: you know, recapping within the movie because it's been a minute,
Speaker 3: I believe, since the second one. So we open with
Speaker 3: like just uh, the kid flying with his brother who's dead,
Speaker 3: and then you know, just introducing us again to the
Speaker 3: fish people, the one that swim and you know Spider.
Speaker 3: So I did see James Cameron try the right Spider
Speaker 3: out of the movie. Said it just wouldn't work, but
Speaker 3: it's it's built really around him.
Speaker 4: Hold on.
Speaker 1: He said he wanted to write him out and it
Speaker 1: wouldn't work, sought, so.
Speaker 2: Instead he gave him a long, egated plot line that
Speaker 2: really didn't matter. Spider is the most useful. He pissed
Speaker 2: me off so much, kid for multiple because the actor's bad.
Speaker 2: But you can't replace him with nobody good because either
Speaker 2: that's gonna it's gonna be a fucked up racial kind
Speaker 2: of thing within that. And two he serves he's useless.
Speaker 2: He's utterly useless outside of being Sigourney Weaver signed nigga potentially,
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. And it's just like anytime
Speaker 2: he was on screen, can I hated it. I was
Speaker 2: throwing popcorn at the screen. He was trash, and we
Speaker 2: spent very.
Speaker 3: Much time silly as hell, like you know, especially Yeah,
Speaker 3: it was just really silly. But but yeah, I think
Speaker 3: you're you're right, nigga. Like in the beginning, first thirty
Speaker 3: minutes or so, it felt like, you know, Jake Sulley
Speaker 3: is dealing with death and grief and uh Naterierry you
Speaker 3: know hates white people. Now you know which is the
Speaker 3: sky people.
Speaker 2: Hey, I love her. I love when she was going
Speaker 2: off kid. She was like, she was like, hey, if
Speaker 2: this little boy is between me and my family, I
Speaker 2: kill this nigga down grabbed the knife. Jake was like,
Speaker 2: hold on baby, baby girl. Hey, I was with it.
Speaker 4: I wanted to see it too. Allowed every time this
Speaker 4: niggas about to get you to get got, I was like,
Speaker 4: do it, nigga.
Speaker 2: Remember when his uh sleep pack machine fucked up and
Speaker 2: she was just looking up top. Everybody was like, everybody
Speaker 2: was trying to find his backup. She over there looking like,
Speaker 2: let that nigga die.
Speaker 3: He looked at him and walked off, like I thought
Speaker 3: she hear it.
Speaker 2: Hey, I thought she hit it to him. Bro. I
Speaker 2: was like, she ain't fucking around this movie. She upset.
Speaker 3: Hey. But Jake got the message though. He was like,
Speaker 3: all right, look, we're gonna send this ass out of here.
Speaker 2: It was it was he.
Speaker 4: An't get it too well because his gonna go on
Speaker 4: the trip with him, Like, nah.
Speaker 3: You're trying to help his family. I mean, you're talking
Speaker 3: about Avatar has some weird racial dynamics because he's got
Speaker 3: white guy being put into a blue suit, uh and
Speaker 3: multiple white guys and.
Speaker 2: Then just really get out can talking about now? But
Speaker 2: I know what I did. Like again, I really wish
Speaker 2: it would just focus. Granted, this movie is about family,
Speaker 2: but I wish there was just certain conversations we stuck
Speaker 2: with throughout the movie when and maybe we kind of did,
Speaker 2: but it just felt like they went flat after a
Speaker 2: while because there were other storylines that they were trying
Speaker 2: to get to that even a fun about. But like
Speaker 2: when he when when Jake was talking to his wife,
Speaker 2: Zoe's out on the character is saying like listen. She
Speaker 2: was like, I don't like humans. I don't like I
Speaker 2: don't like these pink motherfucker's kids, just like they don't
Speaker 2: like their pink feet. I don't like the pink hands
Speaker 2: she was going in And he was like, baby girl,
Speaker 2: I was a human, like nigga, you remember how we
Speaker 2: met And he was like so, he was like, do
Speaker 2: you kids? He said, do you hate have kids? And
Speaker 2: she was like I do and I was I'm over
Speaker 2: in the theater shock. I was like they about to
Speaker 2: get divorced.
Speaker 1: But see Nick, see those are the parts, and I'm like, bro,
Speaker 1: y'all had some good like ship, y'all could really be going.
Speaker 4: They had me the first half of the movie.
Speaker 2: They had me the first third. Nigga ain't the first
Speaker 2: half because they went left quick?
Speaker 4: Are you right?
Speaker 1: You know where it kind of took me? Well, I
Speaker 1: guess were gonna talk about it. I tell y'all where
Speaker 1: like it took me out in the film. We are,
Speaker 1: we're gonna be doing it bit by better. We're gonna
Speaker 1: do it the Spike, the Spike New version. How we
Speaker 1: reviewed it.
Speaker 3: This is a long movie, so I think like the
Speaker 3: hot points and the overview up because it's really like
Speaker 3: two or three main things that happened. You know, a
Speaker 3: lot of it's a lot of filler, Like you know,
Speaker 3: this first part was a recap, which Rob said he
Speaker 3: needed because he ain't watched the second movie in a minute,
Speaker 3: which I get, but I ain't need all that. But yeah,
Speaker 3: they get in the ship and then they're they're in
Speaker 3: these hot air balloons and flying off and hit them
Speaker 3: the Ashley folks, they call them the Magwan people. Here
Speaker 3: they come just attacking everything, and this stupid ass kid
Speaker 3: don't listen to ship because he don't have his coms on.
Speaker 3: He don't have ship, but he wanted to walk around
Speaker 3: carrying a gun. So they all get fucked up.
Speaker 2: Well, the thing the going back a little bit. The
Speaker 2: reason why they are going on this little family vacation
Speaker 2: is because after the white boy Chuck Hanks had his
Speaker 2: machine fuck up. There was like, bro, he's a liability
Speaker 2: with us, Like we can't keep dragging him along and
Speaker 2: he barely can keep up. He can't even breathe out here.
Speaker 2: We need to drop. The wife of Jake Southy was like,
Speaker 2: we didn't leave him with his people, send him back.
Speaker 2: So he was Jake was like, all right, bet we're
Speaker 2: gonna send him back. The kids was upset. There was
Speaker 2: like I already lost one brother. I don't want to
Speaker 2: lose another one. And I'm like if I was like
Speaker 2: like Jake said, he was like, nigga, ain't no way.
Speaker 2: He said, this ain't a democracy, this is my family. Nigga,
Speaker 2: y'all gonna get it live. He's like all right, but
Speaker 2: since his daughter was crying, he was like, all right,
Speaker 2: let's let's all go together as a family to drop
Speaker 2: them off. So as they're going on there, like you said, kid,
Speaker 2: that's when the ASKU become. But they was warned about
Speaker 2: the ask you like, anytime we go through this territory,
Speaker 2: they always raid us and they always steal from us
Speaker 2: because they can't grow their own ship because they live
Speaker 2: on a volcano.
Speaker 3: Mm hmm yeah, yeah, what you know was a good
Speaker 3: introduction of the character were they were pretty good at
Speaker 3: what they do. And you see uh materiory find out
Speaker 3: the Queen Queen Ashley uh lost.
Speaker 2: Which is my thing is like, bro, we we've seen
Speaker 2: Jake Sully versus Stephen Lane's character three times now we
Speaker 2: ain't get Zoey's out Donald versus Ashy Ashy Larry, Like,
Speaker 2: come on, bro, Like that was to me, it was
Speaker 2: like we didn't We should have got a final battle
Speaker 2: between them. They fucked around, they played around with a
Speaker 2: little bit, but we didn't get like a legit final.
Speaker 1: Yeah we shouldstead of the two we always get exactly
Speaker 1: we always did every fucking movie.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: But I mean James Cameron did say that these were
Speaker 1: filmed at the same time technically he want, which I
Speaker 1: don't understand. It wouldn't make sense to me he wanted
Speaker 1: this to be one long movie. James, I don't know,
Speaker 1: And it makes sense.
Speaker 2: It makes sense because j remember what I will tell
Speaker 2: you about how what I hate about Pixar movies is
Speaker 2: that when you do a sequel, they pick up right
Speaker 2: in the next day, even though there's been like probably
Speaker 2: five to ten years in between that since we've grown
Speaker 2: with the movie. And to me, it's just like you
Speaker 2: go from way of Water to fire and ash, and
Speaker 2: it does feel like it's only been like literally like
Speaker 2: maybe a month or two. I think they may have
Speaker 2: said it in the movie, but it's not that much time,
Speaker 2: especially when you're talking about these blue people where they
Speaker 2: age differently as well. So I can see how this
Speaker 2: felt like a replay of the second movie. But that's
Speaker 2: because they didn't really give us enough space to kind
Speaker 2: of sit with these characters after they've dealt with their
Speaker 2: shit from the last movie. It was like we just
Speaker 2: pick up were left off, and the kind of fel
Speaker 2: like I'm watching the same movie over again instead of
Speaker 2: progressing with the story.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's true, but I mean, even with that being said,
Speaker 1: they're still beats where they could have progressed the story.
Speaker 4: But it felt like they they stopped, they stopped.
Speaker 1: Giving us more elements of the story just because they
Speaker 1: want us to hang around for the next movie, as
Speaker 1: compared to, let's just progress these these characters.
Speaker 4: Let's just stop with that.
Speaker 1: Like there's multiple times in the film where I was like,
Speaker 1: that's a great point, where how are they going to
Speaker 1: get past that? How are they gonna deal with those
Speaker 1: different things? And they just stopped talking about it and
Speaker 1: trying to move on to the next thing in order
Speaker 1: because to get intracted, you know what I'm saying. And
Speaker 1: it's like they're introducing new characters and they're trying to
Speaker 1: give you new people to care about, which is what
Speaker 1: Kid is talking about with the fire fire and ass people.
Speaker 1: And it went too many new characters though, Nick, But
Speaker 1: I'm saying, like produce a whole new tribe.
Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly one character that we cared about from that
Speaker 4: one drive, Like there's.
Speaker 1: Only one character. One character, and they didn't even give
Speaker 1: us a lot about that character. Gave us enough to
Speaker 1: care when it gave us a backstory.
Speaker 4: But it seems a lot.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it seems like he's using each movie to build
Speaker 3: out this world world and each time each movie we
Speaker 3: get introduced to another sector. So it was it was
Speaker 3: the water people. Now it's the volcano folks, the Navi tribe,
Speaker 3: and what is four going to be? Who are gonna
Speaker 3: meet next?
Speaker 2: You know, if I'm around the this is like Captain
Speaker 2: Planet Can. We got hearth fired air water, We're about
Speaker 2: to get heart at number five. I just don't know
Speaker 2: how you could tell this story. Granted, this is gonna
Speaker 2: make a billion dollars, probably over a billion dollars, just
Speaker 2: off the fact that it's again one of the most
Speaker 2: entertaining movies to watch visually that I probably that I've
Speaker 2: seen all year, regardless if you've seen them three D
Speaker 2: or not. I didn't see them three D, and I
Speaker 2: still was amazed visually by how it looked. Let's go
Speaker 2: make a billion dollars off of that. So I think
Speaker 2: he is going to get five two more movies, which
Speaker 2: is nuts, but that's probably gonna be another six to
Speaker 2: seven hours worth of content. And if you're trying to
Speaker 2: watch this movie from the one to the end, that's
Speaker 2: like a this maybe a fifteen hour was shown, Like
Speaker 2: that's nuts to say that you have to watch fifteen
Speaker 2: hours of content to get this full story. When you
Speaker 2: can when anybody in Ay Mama knows this is just
Speaker 2: a elongated Pocahontas on an alien planet, Like this ain't
Speaker 2: really that deep and the world building is more interesting
Speaker 2: than the stories. That's what I'm trying to say. It's like,
Speaker 2: these characters ain't that inchest, Like I don't give at
Speaker 2: this point in time. By time we get to the
Speaker 2: four film, I could give a fuck about the Scully
Speaker 2: fan Like when that little boy was about to take
Speaker 2: his head off, when he was like contemplating suicide because
Speaker 2: he was still in the guilt of his brother. That
Speaker 2: was like, let's if you want to keep me involved
Speaker 2: in this world, you're gonna have to take some motherfuckers
Speaker 2: off the board or you got to do something. You're
Speaker 2: gonna have to do something that's going to be like
Speaker 2: I felt but.
Speaker 1: Even but that's that's what had me engaged for this one.
Speaker 1: I felt like Nick watching this movie. I was like, Yeah,
Speaker 1: take motherfuckers off the board. We need somebody else off,
Speaker 1: like y'all gave me.
Speaker 4: It's a part of.
Speaker 1: It was y'all gave me the son and the second
Speaker 1: one just to take him off the board, like he
Speaker 1: was a plot device for future for the future for
Speaker 1: everything to move forward, So let's make this a thing
Speaker 1: when we actually are taking niggas off the board, and
Speaker 1: I thought, I thought Spider was coming off the ball.
Speaker 1: It would have meant something. It would have meant something
Speaker 1: to take him off the board. That's that's that's that's
Speaker 1: when they lost me in the movie. I was like, no,
Speaker 1: like that moment where she was furious and wanted to
Speaker 1: she didn't care about him, And then Jake came around
Speaker 1: and was like bruh, I like, this is the only way,
Speaker 1: like the theme of the movie about grief and fire
Speaker 1: and anger and all that, like that would have made
Speaker 1: this movie like move even further. And I just felt
Speaker 1: like if they would have did it, and however the
Speaker 1: chips fall from there, I would have been into it.
Speaker 1: I would have I would have just probably been into it.
Speaker 1: But not doing that took a lot of win out
Speaker 1: of the movie.
Speaker 2: And I know we have to get to the specific
Speaker 2: stuff about Spider. But that scene, that that biblical scene
Speaker 2: that Jake had with Spider where it was like was
Speaker 2: it Abraham and his son whatever the fuck it is,
Speaker 2: where he was about to slit his throat, I'm thinking, like, bro,
Speaker 2: if so if he actually, if they actually went with that,
Speaker 2: went through with that, that would show that Jake is
Speaker 2: no longer human, you know what I'm saying, Like he's
Speaker 2: literally killing his human side because every because his logic
Speaker 2: was what's going on with Spider? If they find out
Speaker 2: about that, and if they really what they already found
Speaker 2: out about it, but they really capitalize on it, it's
Speaker 2: gonna destroy this whole planet. And I got to kill
Speaker 2: the root, you know, And even though he's an innocent kid,
Speaker 2: he ain't worth this. He ain't worth the planet, you
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying. And that to me was like, bro,
Speaker 2: I won't. I would, And of course, because they elongated
Speaker 2: the fuck out of that scene, we knew he wasn't
Speaker 2: gonna do it. But I'm thinking, if he did that,
Speaker 2: that makes this movie so much more interesting and so
Speaker 2: much more compelling for or the fourth Hie, because I'm like,
Speaker 2: all right, what how does he move forward now that
Speaker 2: he is not a human normal?
Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah, he was essentially used as as as a
Speaker 3: pawn to make the story work for this one. And
Speaker 3: I forgot where I read the article about Spider because
Speaker 3: I was really wondering about him because he was just
Speaker 3: kind of there. He's just kind of like the vice
Speaker 3: of the mcguffin that kind of moves along, you know,
Speaker 3: to a certain degree, but especially when you know they
Speaker 3: crash landed and you know the ash people running around,
Speaker 3: you know, killing everybody like ruthlessly, and he couldn't even
Speaker 3: get his mask. He runs around and I knew it
Speaker 3: wasn't gonna work because the sun ain't worth the damn.
Speaker 3: The kid actor is god awful. They gave her a
Speaker 3: few speaking lines. All they had her do is his
Speaker 3: and then uh, and then you got uh, this this
Speaker 3: this girl that has powers that her mom, the Oshawa
Speaker 3: whatever is. She don't even want to talk to her.
Speaker 3: She kept trying to talk to her. He said, you
Speaker 3: come back here, we're gonna I'm gonna kill you ass
Speaker 3: and you know so. But somehow, some way she managed
Speaker 3: to give Spider the power to breathe without the fucking mask. Bro.
Speaker 3: That's where he should have died. He died there. Hey
Speaker 3: you might got something.
Speaker 2: Yeah, my thing.
Speaker 3: You know, you guys are saying they pretty been more
Speaker 3: impactful if they killed him.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it'll be more impactful from that standpoint,
Speaker 2: especially after following that scene, because then it's like, Okay,
Speaker 2: so he's not a liability as much as he was,
Speaker 2: but he's he's not well, he's not a liability as
Speaker 2: much as he was when it comes to traveling with y'all,
Speaker 2: But now he's a moral liability for the planet because
Speaker 2: of who he is now, because of what he transformed
Speaker 2: in He even got his little baby dread. I hated
Speaker 2: this kid. It was then he grew out of nowhere
Speaker 2: to where was all the way on his back and
Speaker 2: he can connect to ship. Ah, I hate I hated him.
Speaker 1: I don't know why they gave him that ship, Like nah,
Speaker 1: he don't need to be he don't need to be there.
Speaker 2: Let them know.
Speaker 1: Just give him the ability to breathe if that, because
Speaker 1: even taking that away was a lot for me, Like
Speaker 1: y'all didn't have to take it away.
Speaker 4: But I'm fine with.
Speaker 1: You're doing it, okay whatever, But now he can interact
Speaker 1: with the ecosystem and all that. Like, nah, nigga, you're
Speaker 1: still outside the nigga, don't be doing all it. It's
Speaker 1: like it's like bringing the white boy around, Like yeah,
Speaker 1: you can rap nigga, but you bet not say nigga.
Speaker 4: It's like nah, like that's our ship.
Speaker 2: That's our ship.
Speaker 4: That's how they should have left it.
Speaker 3: And he was damn sure dressing with him. He was
Speaker 3: painting blue ship on him and everything. He had blue
Speaker 3: tattoos and all kinds.
Speaker 2: Of shit, all that ship to.
Speaker 3: Blue face or whatever you want.
Speaker 2: To call it.
Speaker 3: He was he was.
Speaker 2: Trying to be He was like assimilating, like crazy knowing,
Speaker 2: and he knows he's human too, dude, Like he knows
Speaker 2: that he doesn't belong there, but he keeps on saying
Speaker 2: like this the only family. This this feels like Mallible's
Speaker 2: most wanted, but just trying to take it too seriously
Speaker 2: or it's like, Nigga, you not know? And my thing
Speaker 2: is also the whole Sigourney weavership. Bro, It's the weirdest
Speaker 2: thing in the world. Bro. Why do we have this
Speaker 2: sixty plus year old white woman playing a fifteen year
Speaker 2: old alien or whatever the fuck she is and then
Speaker 2: have her be a romantic interest to the outside of
Speaker 2: white boy, and on top of that, she's supposed to
Speaker 2: be Jesus. It's just like it's like, what are we
Speaker 2: trying to like what are we trying to say here?
Speaker 2: Like like I don't.
Speaker 1: But see that's the threat and That's one of the
Speaker 1: threads was like, you didn't give me I want to
Speaker 1: know more, but you also didn't give me enough to
Speaker 1: like feel truly invested in it. It's like it's more
Speaker 1: of a curiosity than an investment of wanting to know.
Speaker 1: Like so like if the movies ended here, I wouldn't
Speaker 1: feel obligated to like.
Speaker 4: Go up in arms, like damn man, they ended it
Speaker 4: on the third one.
Speaker 1: It's like, all right, well it wasn't It wasn't a
Speaker 1: terrible And then there's the questions I got, but I
Speaker 1: can live without those questions answered. And you didn't give
Speaker 1: me enough to be truly invested in that plot line,
Speaker 1: and you took time to basically focus on it, and
Speaker 1: it kind of took away from the movie.
Speaker 4: Like there's certain things that you could have gave us
Speaker 4: more on than that.
Speaker 3: I didn't. I didn't understand quartage relationship with Jake Sully.
Speaker 3: It's almost like he respected him, and especially when they
Speaker 3: landed on the planet, because he had who he needed,
Speaker 3: he captured him. I don't know why he was so
Speaker 3: hell bent on going to save the kid and forming
Speaker 3: a partnership with him. It made no sense because at
Speaker 3: that point he didn't even see the apple of what
Speaker 3: eventually came as I give me all the guns.
Speaker 2: Talk about relation, Like he didn't walked in.
Speaker 4: He walked into the bas like yeah, like my woman.
Speaker 2: He kid Eatie Falco, ain't no what to do. She
Speaker 2: was like, Nigga, you are a disgrace, Like look at
Speaker 2: your boofy ass.
Speaker 3: You and all these savages out of here. Bru I
Speaker 3: was like, yo, did he really just really put on
Speaker 3: black face.
Speaker 2: That he put on all colors? He was with all
Speaker 2: the colors kids, and he.
Speaker 1: Became ashy on purpose, and Nigga turned into Andre after
Speaker 1: meet Erica.
Speaker 3: Bro.
Speaker 2: He was he was, he was, He was electric, circus
Speaker 2: common this Hey, he popped that Hey, he popped that
Speaker 2: bean kid, and he ain't know what to do after
Speaker 2: that he popped the being. He starts seeing babies in
Speaker 2: the water and all this shy.
Speaker 3: She she she gave him that Bill Cosby ship. Bro.
Speaker 3: He was like, this is good. He wasn't right the
Speaker 3: rest of the movie.
Speaker 4: That's boring. That's some good ship. He said something like that, like, man,
Speaker 4: she got you, Nigga.
Speaker 3: But he was.
Speaker 2: He was my favorite character in the whole movie.
Speaker 3: Bro.
Speaker 2: He was the best thing about this whole movie every time,
Speaker 2: because he was the motherfucker that was just like there
Speaker 2: was no questions with him, like he he knew what
Speaker 2: he wanted to do, even though he changed like you
Speaker 2: would tell he changed his mind a little bit, but
Speaker 2: he even played on it and was joking about it.
Speaker 2: He was like, well, what we supposed to do?
Speaker 4: Now?
Speaker 2: Am I supposed to see you? I see you? He
Speaker 2: was taking all these jokes and ship because he knew
Speaker 2: his characters like I'm supposed to be the villain, I'm
Speaker 2: supposed to be the anti hero or whatever, and I'm
Speaker 2: not going I'm not moving off that you know, off
Speaker 2: that street, off that block, and everybody else kind of
Speaker 2: just felt like they were still hesitant on who they
Speaker 2: really wanted to be. And that's why I really liked
Speaker 2: his character, just like being like I'm here to do
Speaker 2: this one thing and this one thing. Granted it's been
Speaker 2: the same mission since the first film, but he was
Speaker 2: just to me, the best character because he was the
Speaker 2: most consistent.
Speaker 1: Hey, Nick, I'm looking in the chat and a lot
Speaker 1: of niggas saying they do the same.
Speaker 4: Boy. All I can think about ain't nothing like crazy?
Speaker 2: Hey, nah, you see you see their first interaction on
Speaker 2: she was like, she was like, teach me how to
Speaker 2: make a thunder that Nigga was like, what you say
Speaker 2: to me? He gave her the good quick that I
Speaker 2: gave you something, Nelse the whole Later he said, I
Speaker 2: got a lot more when that came Bro.
Speaker 3: And he lied the old boy, he was like, he
Speaker 3: was like, yeah, I got I got a plan. It's
Speaker 3: a little radical though.
Speaker 1: He had that plan and me and that he had
Speaker 1: that playing in mind ever since he met her.
Speaker 4: Bro, you trying to make it seem like it wouldn't work,
Speaker 4: and nah, he knew what he was up to. He
Speaker 4: knew exactly what he wanted to do so he met her.
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Speaker 2: Man. My thing was like his relationship with Spider was
Speaker 2: weird too, because every point in time I was wondering, like,
Speaker 2: why do you care about this kid?
Speaker 1: Like said he said his life. I mean that is
Speaker 1: his son. But I mean I get it. You don't
Speaker 1: give a It's not really his.
Speaker 2: Son no moretal you know what I'm saying, Like you're
Speaker 2: a clone of an avatar. You're not even human anymore.
Speaker 2: You just have the memories of it.
Speaker 1: But you gotta remember, Like that's one thing that people
Speaker 1: always use with clones. Clones don't think they're clones. They
Speaker 1: think they're the real thing. So to him, he is
Speaker 1: the real thing, and that is really his son. And
Speaker 1: even though Spider was like not fucking with him a lot,
Speaker 1: you saved my life when you could have let me die.
Speaker 1: And so the party, you care about me, no matter
Speaker 1: what you say, you care about me.
Speaker 2: Like I don't care what he shot that motherfucker. Remember
Speaker 2: when he was holding off thing, He's like he's like
Speaker 2: pull me up, and like, well, nigga, you ain't shoot
Speaker 2: me in the arm. I want to pull your goofy
Speaker 2: ass up, Like it's just a it's the weirdest relationship ever.
Speaker 2: They're trying to co parent at the same time, Ken,
Speaker 2: and I'm like, I don't both of them wanted to
Speaker 2: kid well, one of them wanted to kill them, the
Speaker 2: other one.
Speaker 3: Just wants to Yeah, Like after they got through when
Speaker 3: he pulled the mother, He's like, well, this is awkward.
Speaker 2: He has some good one he had some great ones.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, because I was thinking the same thing. I
Speaker 3: was like, here's a spider in the middle, and you
Speaker 3: to baby Daddy's or Daddy's just like and he said
Speaker 3: what I was thinking. So I thought that that was
Speaker 3: that was pretty dope. But yeah, they escape, uh you
Speaker 3: know with the with you know, she using the powers
Speaker 3: kill the floor people, blah blah blah. But they found
Speaker 3: out that Spider got like some organism growing inside.
Speaker 4: Of his body.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and the whole thing is they just want to
Speaker 3: reverse engineering. So that was the whole thing with Spider
Speaker 3: and how he was relevant to those stories. So it
Speaker 3: became all about getting him and Quittrier went back gave
Speaker 3: these motherfucker flame throwers and all kind of fucking guns
Speaker 3: and shit like that, and got turned out and yeah,
Speaker 3: Spider is hype so uh so. Yeah, so Jake surrendered
Speaker 3: because they came back yep, yep and uh and he
Speaker 3: told her said, don't man, she wanted to shoot that
Speaker 3: damn bow and arrow so bad. But they were talking
Speaker 3: cash ship bro, and he said Kurtis said, man, like
Speaker 3: some ship on fire.
Speaker 2: He was like, you think we bullshit burn this motherfucker up?
Speaker 3: Yeah, he live all that ship on fire and they
Speaker 3: went back to the base. Yeah. I think at this
Speaker 3: point that's when she she came back to the rescuing bro. Yeah,
Speaker 3: that was that was pretty tight. I like that.
Speaker 2: Again, the action scenes in this movie are really good.
Speaker 2: That's the only thing that kept me awake. Can I
Speaker 2: fell asleep twice? Ain't miss a beating this movie, and
Speaker 2: the action scenes was the one that keep me up.
Speaker 2: But like the the relationship dynamics were interesting from the
Speaker 2: sense of like again, I really loved how Jake was
Speaker 2: trying to not he was trying to deny that what
Speaker 2: do they call him? He's supposed to be the tomahawk.
Speaker 2: What's what's the motherfucker? Because he can ride that big
Speaker 2: ass dragon looking thing. Yeah you know what I'm say. Like,
Speaker 2: he was like trying to not. He was like, I'm
Speaker 2: not trying to be the Yeah, I'm not trying to
Speaker 2: be the nigga missed the nigga no more. I'm done
Speaker 2: being missed the nigga. Every time I missed the nigga,
Speaker 2: I always killed and the uh the see the Water
Speaker 2: People was like, nigga, you always missed the nigga. To us,
Speaker 2: like that, that's not something that you could just kind
Speaker 2: of hide away from. Whenever shit hits the fan, We're
Speaker 2: going to look to you for that. So he finally
Speaker 2: embraced it. So like there was a lot of like
Speaker 2: relationship dynamics with hers from externally or internally that were interesting,
Speaker 2: and I think that within this movie it could have
Speaker 2: been really really well done if they just again like
Speaker 2: I mentioned earlier, like if they just kind of just
Speaker 2: lean into it and like see like the worst case
Speaker 2: scenario of what of Jake denying that versus and also
Speaker 2: seeing him you know, redeem himself at the end. But
Speaker 2: to me, it was just like again, the fight scenes
Speaker 2: were great, but they were just like meaningless because we
Speaker 2: didn't really move forward, like what I don't know, Uh, Jay,
Speaker 2: let me know if I miss anything As far as
Speaker 2: what do we gain from all this outside of Spider
Speaker 2: being able to breathe, well.
Speaker 3: You know, that's it, like, because they didn't really do
Speaker 3: much like Spider and what is inside him can definitely
Speaker 3: help them out a lot because they cannot breathe the air.
Speaker 3: But after this movie was over them all of them
Speaker 3: were wiped out, So I don't know what they're gonna
Speaker 3: do in four. And the one guy that helped them
Speaker 3: helped the Jake the escape. Did we ever see him
Speaker 3: the scientist that had a change of heart that used
Speaker 3: the bulldozer? Did we ever see him the rest of
Speaker 3: the movie. Nah?
Speaker 1: Once he dipped off that that was it. That was
Speaker 1: basically he disappeared.
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, and we still got the assholes still around
Speaker 3: this mother Gul lost one arm.
Speaker 2: He's still trying to speaking of that, What did y'all
Speaker 2: think about the well Beings?
Speaker 3: Yeah, you had a lot of well, I won't to
Speaker 3: say a lot of I think you mentioned that Jake embraced,
Speaker 3: you know, being the guy. Uh the Tokens were definitely
Speaker 3: not trying to fight at all, but they had to
Speaker 3: change the harbor they were standing on business because uh
Speaker 3: Piacon was the only one that really was about that
Speaker 3: that that ship was taking out. He was still taking
Speaker 3: out motherfuckers. Bro.
Speaker 2: I don't know none of these names. I was on
Speaker 2: calling from Pearl and say like Pearl kicking.
Speaker 4: Chew Bro jaking the blues man.
Speaker 2: My thame is, how did these get those rings?
Speaker 3: I don't know. I assume the water people have to
Speaker 3: put them on. How they lifted, I don't know. But
Speaker 3: the motherfucker was talking a lot of ship though, because
Speaker 3: it was there was.
Speaker 2: Some punk cast niggas. They was the one saying like this,
Speaker 2: we ain't trying to fight. We passed fighting, you know,
Speaker 2: Jaz said, we beyond kneeling kids.
Speaker 3: They were talking ship to pire kind. It was like, nah,
Speaker 3: we told him, don't gonna sucking them people. He's going
Speaker 3: to fucking them people. So we're kicking him out. You
Speaker 3: out the gang, bro, Just get the funk out of here.
Speaker 3: And that's why uh Lord went to go find him
Speaker 3: and the other bad ass kids.
Speaker 2: He was like, I lost one brother, I'm not gonna
Speaker 2: lose another one.
Speaker 3: But they ain't your brother bro.
Speaker 2: To us, brother man ain't nowhere. Hey, we seen some
Speaker 2: speaking of cosmic show. We see cosmy kids and be
Speaker 2: like y'all kind of y'all getting loose with y'all being siblings.
Speaker 2: We'll let it go. This one don't make no damn sense.
Speaker 4: Now that's his brother.
Speaker 1: Man, It made since in the last film Man like
Speaker 1: they both cast like he connected with him, like that
Speaker 1: made sense for him to feel like, yeah, bro, like
Speaker 1: y'all getting rid of him for protecting himself Like that's
Speaker 1: that ain't.
Speaker 2: N that's why. Cause the cause with the fucked up
Speaker 2: walk essentially the one who got half his face miss
Speaker 2: and he came back like niggas, Look what they did
Speaker 2: to me. I can't even straight up like he want
Speaker 2: the niggas. You know he wanted the niggas. Jay, I know,
Speaker 2: you see the biggas who always want to show off
Speaker 2: their scars, and we're like, nigga, go away. We just
Speaker 2: we don't need to see none of that ship. He
Speaker 2: kept putting this nasty ass scar on the screen. I
Speaker 2: ain't want to see that ship.
Speaker 3: And they probably hated it too, because that probably gave
Speaker 3: him a reason to fight. Even still, they were like,
Speaker 3: all right, well, well we'll holler back y'all in a second.
Speaker 3: We're gonna go talk about it, and they never gave
Speaker 3: a firm answer because the kids were like, man, y'all
Speaker 3: never listen to me. Y'all, don't do ship. I'm trying
Speaker 3: to tell y'all what's going on, and finally stood.
Speaker 2: Up bad present. They're trying to say it can I
Speaker 2: don't want none of my kids talking in no in
Speaker 2: no big meeting like that. Bro, Ya ain't saying shit.
Speaker 2: They interrupted the medi and jay all types of shit
Speaker 2: for what for some audience. It ain't gonna change the
Speaker 2: thing we all knew we had to fight. Figga, We're
Speaker 2: just trying to gather up everybody. Y'all. Ain't saying nothing new.
Speaker 1: Jake is still sucked up for his parenting though. That's
Speaker 1: one thing I still hate it. Like from the original
Speaker 1: you would think.
Speaker 4: That so that's a beat. Then I felt like just
Speaker 4: got dropped to the side.
Speaker 1: Like at the end, Jake does the I See You
Speaker 1: to the Sun that still alive after the first time dies,
Speaker 1: and so for him to do that and then in
Speaker 1: the beginning of this and throughout most of the film
Speaker 1: treat that same song like shit.
Speaker 2: It's like it was anger, bro, That's what he He
Speaker 2: said the same thing to his wife. He was like
Speaker 2: this anger is like it's controlling how she felt about
Speaker 2: the white people and his anger for like not being
Speaker 2: able to protect his family. He had to put that somewhere.
Speaker 2: He put it on the Sun because he was like, bro,
Speaker 2: I told y'all not to do this ship. You winded
Speaker 2: up doing the ship. Your brother went to go save
Speaker 2: you and then he died in that process. Ak when
Speaker 2: he told him like that, Nigga would still be here
Speaker 2: if it wasn't that he stopped. He stopped. Even the
Speaker 2: son was like, don't play me for that.
Speaker 4: But Nick, I get your but the you that for.
Speaker 2: A minute, because you remember the Sun tried to do something nice.
Speaker 2: It was like, yeah, I want to go out on
Speaker 2: the hunt with you. I want to. I got my gun.
Speaker 2: He was like, where is your cons that nigga, go
Speaker 2: get your CONSI your goofy ass want to come on
Speaker 2: his um, but you'll can't even communicate with you sit
Speaker 2: your asspect.
Speaker 1: Yeah you got a point that, yes, anger and like
Speaker 1: his grief. But they dropped that ship. Like you said,
Speaker 1: I need a halfway through the movie, like it went
Speaker 1: back to being in a venture film as compared to
Speaker 1: dealing with this ship. You introduced us to like let's
Speaker 1: stay here and let's let's like build on this ship
Speaker 1: and just went back to the same running around, get caught,
Speaker 1: get get loose, let me fight again. Like it's like, bro,
Speaker 1: done this shit many times in Avatar. Let's stick to
Speaker 1: what you started this these.
Speaker 4: Themes off with in the beginning of the film.
Speaker 2: But maybe that's what they save him for four and five.
Speaker 2: You can't solve all the problems and.
Speaker 4: It just put it in the second one. We need
Speaker 4: a whole second half of this shit.
Speaker 3: Then, were you guys surprised that Queen ash went along
Speaker 3: with Curtas.
Speaker 2: I'm not surprised because because of the backstory of like
Speaker 2: when you find out that like they all worship the
Speaker 2: same god and then they felt like the god betrayed them.
Speaker 2: I thought that was a good angle that they could
Speaker 2: have leaned heavily into, like as far as like we're
Speaker 2: godless now we move like it too, like we like
Speaker 2: and we also at the end of the day, cam'pt
Speaker 2: fend for ourselves, Like we can't survive by ourselves. We
Speaker 2: need to collapse. We need to either steal from somebody
Speaker 2: or have somebody use us. Essentially, that's what Stephen Lane's
Speaker 2: character did, was use us to attack them. But I
Speaker 2: felt like they were not justified, but I understood their
Speaker 2: reasoning for collaborations because it's like we don't we look
Speaker 2: at them as our ultimate enemy too, you know what
Speaker 2: I'm saying. They they're the good guys for what they
Speaker 2: believe in. And I really thought that was Again, this
Speaker 2: movie is very based on faith and religion, and I
Speaker 2: really liked that aspect of like what the ask people from.
Speaker 1: They're not godless person because they create they make her
Speaker 1: a deity at that point, because remember in the beginning
Speaker 1: I called onto that when they did the raid and
Speaker 1: Old Boy sacrificed themselves, Like she's pray all that shit
Speaker 1: and I ain't gonnat that shit was tough.
Speaker 4: She's pray all that shit.
Speaker 1: On him and he basically kama COSI that that that
Speaker 1: ship or whatever, and she knows that. That's why she
Speaker 1: she does it with the drugs and all that, Like
Speaker 1: she's the d T for them now, Like I feel
Speaker 1: like she's just abusing power. It ain't even that they
Speaker 1: don't completely believe. I think there's I think that there's
Speaker 1: a piece of it where they just believe in her,
Speaker 1: like she's the one with the power.
Speaker 4: She has. They probably that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: There's so many other things we could have got from
Speaker 1: that that side of the story, and they could have
Speaker 1: dived into and like give us, given us, because when
Speaker 1: she gave him that spice and they was doing the
Speaker 1: rituals and dancing and but but that first time them
Speaker 1: niggas took that ship.
Speaker 4: And she linked up to him and he shook and
Speaker 4: went paralyzed.
Speaker 2: I know what that. I know what that movement feel
Speaker 2: like saying, but it's something, but you feel you got something,
Speaker 2: got something for the first time you ain't never had before.
Speaker 4: But even then, i'd have been at that party before
Speaker 4: when they were dancing around and know somebody in the
Speaker 4: corner just shook, like, oh yeah, that nigga feeling good
Speaker 4: over there.
Speaker 1: But nah, there's a lot of things there. And if
Speaker 1: you do it in four and five, it's cool. But
Speaker 1: you brought me back to three to not give me enough.
Speaker 1: And so her story was compelling because I understand that,
Speaker 1: like you sitting here praying and praying and praying and
Speaker 1: praying and nothing changed, So funk all that like it
Speaker 1: ain't it ain't real.
Speaker 3: But nah, yeah, I feel like like she she she
Speaker 3: could have been a really good villain for the whole movie,
Speaker 3: and but as soon as she got with uh Kercht,
Speaker 3: she got reduced to basically like not a not a
Speaker 3: side piece, but she was just you know, there to
Speaker 3: serve him. And you were like, you ruled all that ship,
Speaker 3: You were the top dog. You could have killed that motherfucker,
Speaker 3: took all of his weapons and ship. But as soon
Speaker 3: as you got with him, and you know, and and
Speaker 3: it was just it and you were just there. So
Speaker 3: I felt like they definitely didn't use her in the
Speaker 3: right way because she could have been a really good
Speaker 3: villain because, like you guys, I was. I was waiting
Speaker 3: for that showdown between her and the Teary because I'm like, oh,
Speaker 3: she gonna get some payback for her, and it didn't happen,
Speaker 3: and I felt I felt cheated from that.
Speaker 2: Especially when they where they had Sigourney Weaver's young old
Speaker 2: ass link up with her and just scare her from
Speaker 2: that and just call her a bitch and just it
Speaker 2: was just like this is week, like you got all
Speaker 2: like you did all again. My main thing is you
Speaker 2: got me here for three plus hours, bro, You like
Speaker 2: justify that first and foremost, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: And then they made her a centerpiece in the promotion too,
Speaker 1: like she in the big ass middle of the movie
Speaker 1: poster and the trailers they showing the rituals and stuff
Speaker 1: that she's doing, like she was supposed to be a
Speaker 1: key figure, and she was only that for maybe twenty
Speaker 1: five percent of the film and it just disappeared like
Speaker 1: halfway through.
Speaker 3: So disappointing. Kirie, that's Segourney Weaver's character. Mhm, she found
Speaker 3: out she was a clone?
Speaker 2: Why did you know that exactly? You synced up to
Speaker 2: the tree all this time. That motherfucker would the best
Speaker 2: st that nigga, You ain't real, all right.
Speaker 1: But she was born and then you gotta remember that
Speaker 1: she was born from the avatar. So they always just
Speaker 1: told her her parents died or whatever.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think she.
Speaker 1: Has no father and so well no, no, she thought
Speaker 1: Jake was her father in it because they didn't hear Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: So she didn't know, like she didn't. She didn't obviously
Speaker 1: didn't know that she wasn't not real, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, Like she just thought maybe she was different
Speaker 1: because Jake's her dad, and Jake's not a full full nobby,
Speaker 1: so I could understand completely why she was confused. Well,
Speaker 1: my she ain't working like everybody else.
Speaker 3: Yeah, because her mom didn't want her. Her mom didn't want
Speaker 3: her at all, you know. So she took it. She
Speaker 3: took well yeah, but still the god mama she but
Speaker 3: she took it a stride though. She was like, oh,
Speaker 3: I'm a clone for real? Okay, cool?
Speaker 2: Now she was angry at fir she was. She was
Speaker 2: she was like, this is why I've been feeling weird
Speaker 2: and feeling like a freak. Y'a could have been told
Speaker 2: me this ship.
Speaker 3: It didn't last long. Shock.
Speaker 2: That's like no kid dealing with kids for too long.
Speaker 2: I know, I know when they pouting and they ain't real,
Speaker 2: But having a gonna read as this child just doesn't
Speaker 2: work for this It's trash.
Speaker 4: Doesn't work. Bro.
Speaker 1: You could have you could have did something else. It
Speaker 1: just doesn't work with her trying to be a kid.
Speaker 1: It doesn't work at all.
Speaker 3: And you know, and I think there and maybe in
Speaker 3: four we'll get more exploration into like her powers and
Speaker 3: her ability to have some sort of weird tantric sets
Speaker 3: with the earth and have that guy just basically enveloped
Speaker 3: by this organism and changed him into basically Earth a
Speaker 3: planet breathing. Now, like how does all that work? She's
Speaker 3: animating flowers and all kinds of shit, like, you know,
Speaker 3: like we I would like to know more about her
Speaker 3: abilities and what she can do, because she she would
Speaker 3: try to use them and ship, but she wasn't really
Speaker 3: good at it, even at the end when we get
Speaker 3: to the big fight, because it was good seeing Turok
Speaker 3: come back on board because he was fucking shit up.
Speaker 3: But I did the for me. The peak of this movie,
Speaker 3: of course, is the final fight scene because they decided
Speaker 3: to row the ass back up after Sully and them
Speaker 3: escaped because they were the Tolkiens were having their their
Speaker 3: ritual and they had that magnetic core thing going around,
Speaker 3: so they were about to go, man, yeah that that
Speaker 3: that be the core thing that that Maneta Tornado. That
Speaker 3: ship was dope.
Speaker 4: And then when it caught shipping, the fire went around
Speaker 4: and oh yeah that.
Speaker 3: Was yeah, yeah, this one. I was like, man, James,
Speaker 3: James Cameron got yeah, he was naeling it. But but
Speaker 3: they were definitely well s. They damned there won the fight,
Speaker 3: and then the Tolkens came through and we're fucking ship up,
Speaker 3: jumping and landing on the planes and ship like that.
Speaker 3: The General was like, get us out of here.
Speaker 2: Falco was like she was in the wrong movie, so
Speaker 2: she thought this was a besiege of Master Command and
Speaker 2: some ship. She didn't just felt weird for her to
Speaker 2: be in this movie about aliens and whatever the fuck
Speaker 2: because she was just stern the whole movie like she was.
Speaker 2: She didn't give no expressions, no emotions. She was just
Speaker 2: like General tight ass.
Speaker 1: Hey Nick when I scientist gave me there and was like,
Speaker 1: y man, you're gonna disturb the ecosystem, and she's like,
Speaker 1: we'll take your protests under consideration.
Speaker 4: Nigga, say my protestation. She didn't give no funs.
Speaker 2: We didn't care about none of that ship. The best
Speaker 2: thing she had was when she cutsed up Steve A
Speaker 2: Lake for U for wearing the in the ball meeting.
Speaker 2: He was sawty his head to think nobody noticed, like, nigga,
Speaker 2: you you eight nine feet long till you know to
Speaker 2: show big ass in the room.
Speaker 3: Bro. He swore his fit was tight.
Speaker 1: Bro, like that y'all, y'all dress y'all, and the niggas
Speaker 1: gonna clown you're in love. You're like, man, that's my baby,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna let her. I'm leting adjust me one good time.
Speaker 1: And she dressed your niggas be.
Speaker 4: Like, what the fuck you?
Speaker 2: She had him dressed up like in a two tone
Speaker 2: Jordan three.
Speaker 4: Fit. Bro.
Speaker 3: It was weird.
Speaker 2: That shit was funny.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, well they they got kicked off. He left,
Speaker 3: but but they needed him because he came through. Bro,
Speaker 3: he can't run that corner he did just bruh, fucking
Speaker 3: him up.
Speaker 2: That was the thing too, is like from the first
Speaker 2: film going so now it's like, if you really care
Speaker 2: about these disfranchise, you'd be like, I'm attached to the
Speaker 2: blue people now or just this planet. And they was,
Speaker 2: like you mentioned, kid, they was taking a lot of
Speaker 2: like there was a lot of death in here from
Speaker 2: not humans, but not only do humans, but from the natives.
Speaker 2: And I just felt I felt that was interesting because
Speaker 2: they talked about a lot of death. And then when
Speaker 2: you see all this carnish happened because of war and
Speaker 2: all that, you just see them people just taking them
Speaker 2: their people off, one byma and not really being that remorseful.
Speaker 2: I remember that first film when the people died, they
Speaker 2: had whole ceremonies and all this shit and other and
Speaker 2: it felt like niggas just dying battle. We just move on.
Speaker 2: Like the only time it really got like some real
Speaker 2: tree stuff is when Sigourney Weaver was trying to connect
Speaker 2: and but the Wi Fi signal wasn't working and the
Speaker 2: white boy getting turned into whatever the hell he is now?
Speaker 3: Yeah you got Yeah, there really wasn't a connection to
Speaker 3: some of the the water people that died. Two examples,
Speaker 3: one of the kids walked off and when the tide turned,
Speaker 3: they were getting killed under the water like shot. And
Speaker 3: then we had old girl, oh boy's wife, she died
Speaker 3: and gave birth, and I didn't think they were going
Speaker 3: to kill her, but it was just like, okay, well
Speaker 3: she's I felt I felt that she did. Yeah. I
Speaker 3: felt that her husband just seemed to character at the end.
Speaker 4: I mean for her to be pregnant and be out
Speaker 4: there running and ship. Yeah, he ain't care, he ain't
Speaker 4: cant oh.
Speaker 1: I would have told him, man, I'm the chief, Like
Speaker 1: that's not a racist, Like I'm the one to tribe
Speaker 1: like as.
Speaker 2: The and the thing is the pregnant woman y'all talking about.
Speaker 2: I thought she was interesting too because she was not jealous,
Speaker 2: but she was just wondering like what the fun was
Speaker 2: going on with Sigourney Weaver that character, because she was like,
Speaker 2: I've been doing this ship all my life. I ain't
Speaker 2: never been able to connect to the tree like this
Speaker 2: bitch did. And she doing all this ship helping humans out.
Speaker 3: Yeah, she was.
Speaker 2: She was was.
Speaker 3: She was definitely hated. She would definitely hate, but especially
Speaker 3: while she was trying to patch her up, she was like,
Speaker 3: keep talking, ship and I ain't gonna heal your at all. Yeah,
Speaker 3: met met Kyeni and something like that.
Speaker 4: She told her, and don't make me forgetting that you're
Speaker 4: with child. They just.
Speaker 2: I was like, all right, let's get let's get on
Speaker 2: with this show.
Speaker 3: But yeah, but yeah, they she said, because she was like, yeah,
Speaker 3: I'm dying. She was like, no, You're gonna be hones.
Speaker 3: She was like, no, I'm dying, motherfucker. Like baby ship,
Speaker 3: I'm your doctor ship.
Speaker 2: Man. That was that was crazy.
Speaker 3: Man, I was, I was.
Speaker 2: I did feel sad for her. But but again, like
Speaker 2: this the third the third act of this movie is
Speaker 2: really it's exciting, but it's also disappointing because it's like
Speaker 2: the action scenes are great, especially that scene where Jake
Speaker 2: on the hot the air balloon looking thing and what
Speaker 2: he was doing on that motherfucker like.
Speaker 3: That was dope.
Speaker 2: But but Howard transitioned to the end of the film
Speaker 2: was just kind of like it ended on a really
Speaker 2: flat note in my opinion.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I felt dissatisfactory, Like seeing them trying to leave.
Speaker 3: I wish I would have seen what Edie Falco's I
Speaker 3: forgot her character's name die because you just saw her
Speaker 3: still on the ship and kind of running away. But
Speaker 3: I don't know, I felt I wanted to see more
Speaker 3: of that. But the way the ship was being destroyed
Speaker 3: and flying up and it became like another threat while
Speaker 3: they were fighting on rocks, well was really dope. But
Speaker 3: this is when they were also still on the ship,
Speaker 3: and that's when, like you said earlier, like we thought
Speaker 3: we were going to see that fight and we didn't,
Speaker 3: Like she just came through and connected with it and
Speaker 3: she just ran off. Yeah, it just felt like what
Speaker 3: I wanted to see didn't happen. But I thought Sully
Speaker 3: and Kurtis's fight was was pretty good. You know. I
Speaker 3: think they just used Spider to stop it because I
Speaker 3: don't think they really wanted to pick a winner, so
Speaker 3: they just used him as a way to make it
Speaker 3: make it neutral. But but having to say Spider, but
Speaker 3: my thing is Spider, you you you are a fucking human.
Speaker 3: Why are you out there? You can't do any of
Speaker 3: the ship and you're taking him a gun?
Speaker 4: Huh?
Speaker 3: How do you end U about the love chasing Sally? Bro,
Speaker 3: you're like a regular ass human, but you can't.
Speaker 4: He don't feel that way.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he feels like he's just like that. He may
Speaker 2: feel at worse, he may feel like he's a little
Speaker 2: slower based off stature, but outside of that, he's like, Bro,
Speaker 2: I'm with them, it's my family. I'll do the same.
Speaker 3: He was struggling to do the crossbow. He was.
Speaker 2: He almost hit.
Speaker 4: Bro, load up and hit.
Speaker 1: He will mess around and hit you before you even
Speaker 1: finished loading it up. But I like this, I like
Speaker 1: I like current. I hope he's dead, bro, Like he's
Speaker 1: not my boy out my homeboy.
Speaker 4: I really hope he did.
Speaker 2: So you see a body, that's a That's what they
Speaker 2: say in the movies. Until you see a body. He
Speaker 2: ain't did. And in this world, even if he was
Speaker 2: to die, he could bring him back to.
Speaker 3: Because it made no sense for it, because he was
Speaker 3: it made no sense for him to jump off.
Speaker 2: It did. It did because he was He was like,
Speaker 2: I'm not about to deal with.
Speaker 3: You hell like herself though.
Speaker 1: No, he know Jake's wife is not about to allow
Speaker 1: him to and that's why he ran off the first time.
Speaker 2: He can't.
Speaker 4: They know what he's done.
Speaker 1: They not gonna allow him to even be You think
Speaker 1: she hates Spotter, You think she hates Spotter?
Speaker 4: That nigga's not going on. He gonna ain't gonna last
Speaker 4: fifteen seconds trying her, Bro, I didn't even think about that. Yeah,
Speaker 4: he knew it was up.
Speaker 3: Well, it seemed like Sully had. Sully was more willing
Speaker 3: to listen because Sully kept trying to convince It was like, hey, bro,
Speaker 3: you can look got new eyes now.
Speaker 4: Can can? It ain't about what Sully would have said,
Speaker 4: because Sally been saying a lot about the spot. Ain't Sully?
Speaker 3: No too.
Speaker 2: Sully don't really ship. They only call him up when
Speaker 2: like he one of the niggas, Like you call him
Speaker 2: like if you were in trouble, you need somebody to
Speaker 2: fight with you. That's what Sully is to that tribe.
Speaker 2: That's the only value he really breathed. Outside of that,
Speaker 2: he's outside of that. He's really he's still announceide, he's
Speaker 2: still be leaning on he learned on the job.
Speaker 3: Like, uh, Sigourney Weaver, is they really just wanted to
Speaker 3: fight because the first speak up? Yeah, yeah, yeah, he
Speaker 3: don't be saying she because I think about like him
Speaker 3: in this movie. She made him get rid of Spider,
Speaker 3: his kids made the whole family. It made him take
Speaker 3: the whole family and they got ambushed. His wife convinced
Speaker 3: him to kill the kid, and then his wife convince
Speaker 3: kills Spider, and then his wife convinced him to let
Speaker 3: Spider live when he came through it.
Speaker 2: Can I always say women have the right and the
Speaker 2: audacity to change their mind at any given time. Two
Speaker 2: hours two hours of this movie, she was like, fuck
Speaker 2: that nigga. In the last thirty minute forty five minutes,
Speaker 2: she was like, nah, save him. She's like, he saved
Speaker 2: your life, Like, who gives a fuck? So he's gonna
Speaker 2: be the end of all of us. He is going
Speaker 2: to be a huge That's what I was saying, Like
Speaker 2: I was, it's crazy that you said that. Cameron didn't
Speaker 2: want I was trying to write him out. It's like
Speaker 2: he did the complete opposite it's not even like he
Speaker 2: put him on the bench or anything, like Old Spider
Speaker 2: is just somewhere around here or whatever, and he'll come back,
Speaker 2: you know, later on. He's now going to be a
Speaker 2: focal point in the last two movies because he's gonna
Speaker 2: get older, he's gonna get more ingrained with the culture
Speaker 2: now that he can get tapped in, and the humans
Speaker 2: are gonna notice, like there's one human out there who
Speaker 2: can breathe with them, live with him, do all this
Speaker 2: other shit.
Speaker 4: And he already noticed it because they was. He was
Speaker 4: on camera when Jake was escaping, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: Like it's gonna even be more broadcasted, like to the
Speaker 2: to the to Earth. They're gonna send more people because
Speaker 2: they gonn want to be like, all right, if he
Speaker 2: can breathe on here, then we can come here too,
Speaker 2: and that'll be a whole new dominion for them to
Speaker 2: take off. Like that's what it's gonna be, an intergalactic war,
Speaker 2: that's what they're kind of getting to. I think at
Speaker 2: this point it's been real domestic as far as like
Speaker 2: trying to fight off the colonizer colonizers, But I think
Speaker 2: we're gonna get more of like, oh Earth is coming,
Speaker 2: the whole planet is gonna come over.
Speaker 3: That they were definitely on the colonizing talk ship. Yeah.
Speaker 1: My homeboy he read the Cones as a comic and
Speaker 1: he read it and it's more fighting. It's like they
Speaker 1: start fighting in space and ship.
Speaker 2: So yeah, it's.
Speaker 3: Gonna have to be well, I guess that's Star Wars.
Speaker 2: It's basically gonna be Star Wars.
Speaker 3: Yeah. So our Kirie final was able to connect with
Speaker 3: our but it took everybody to come down there and
Speaker 3: help her out because because Iowa did not want to
Speaker 3: holler at her anymore. I would come through and basically
Speaker 3: say the day with them damn squid things that came
Speaker 3: in and fucked everybody up. It was satisfying seeing that
Speaker 3: guy finally get killed. And it looked like it was
Speaker 3: brutal too.
Speaker 2: They made with the army, Yeah, because because I was thinking,
Speaker 2: like the whales just go keep pulling him down until
Speaker 2: the pressure that's gonna bust his you know. That's the
Speaker 2: one thing that that's why I think this, Uh, they've
Speaker 2: explored more of space than they have of the sea
Speaker 2: because of how much pressure is the lowder you get
Speaker 2: into the into the water, so to die like that,
Speaker 2: it's probably painful as hell, yeah, but but that.
Speaker 3: That was That's pretty much it.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 3: That was the movie in a in a nutshell, you know,
Speaker 3: it's it's a you know, it's very difficult to go
Speaker 3: through this thing bit by bit, but you.
Speaker 2: Don't really need to. It ain't ship going on this
Speaker 2: this movie, this movie mayn't realize, Bro, he is wasting
Speaker 2: his time on these films. Bro. No, I'm saying he's
Speaker 2: wasting He ain't waste the money. I'm saying he wasting
Speaker 2: his time.
Speaker 1: He's not, bro, Because even though you say that there's
Speaker 1: a there's a colt following behind Avatar, there's niggas who
Speaker 1: are actually there's an Avatar dude who like is doing
Speaker 1: like tattooing his body to be blue. Is a whole
Speaker 1: community of people who really really really fuck with Avatar.
Speaker 4: Bro.
Speaker 1: So now he was wasting his time like it'll make
Speaker 1: at least one point five billion, shit was selling.
Speaker 4: Three That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: It's a cult following by and then the people who
Speaker 1: aren't even Colt following, like my own boy, he just
Speaker 1: like I just want to go get I was like
Speaker 1: with your expectations for the film. He's like, bro, I
Speaker 1: just want to be lost in Pandora for three hours
Speaker 1: and then go home.
Speaker 4: That's all.
Speaker 1: He not even a big, big fan, but he like
Speaker 1: Pandora is a dope place to be and when it
Speaker 1: got doing the movies, like, I was just happy to
Speaker 1: be in Pandora. Like he didn't care about the plot line.
Speaker 1: People go just for the experience of Avatar and visually,
Speaker 1: that's what James Gunn is hanging his hat on, is like,
Speaker 1: at least people are going to enjoy looking at it, Like, I.
Speaker 3: Was surprised at the number of people. I had no
Speaker 3: desire to go watch it as late as I did,
Speaker 3: but I had no other choice. But there were a
Speaker 3: lot of people that were willing to go watch this
Speaker 3: movie at eleven or twelve o'clock. Ab was the one
Speaker 3: that told me about it because that was the time
Speaker 3: he was looking at. He said, the the twelve o'clock
Speaker 3: show he was looking at on opening night sold out.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I get I get it. For the
Speaker 2: first weekend, this is the biggest movie of the season
Speaker 2: of probably of the fourth quarter, definitely for the fourth quarter.
Speaker 2: But it's to me, I say, wasting his time, because
Speaker 2: I'm like, bro, a guy who could do this visually,
Speaker 2: can get with some kind of can get a good
Speaker 2: script and turn that into another franchise or something like that.
Speaker 2: I'nderstanding like brou like, this story isn't even that great
Speaker 2: to keep doing it. Like if this is just again,
Speaker 2: if it's a money grab and all that shit, that's fine.
Speaker 2: I'm sure he gets a percentage of the film since
Speaker 2: he's been working on this for the last it's about
Speaker 2: to be twenty years that he's been working on just
Speaker 2: one movie essentially.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, yeah, I think Jaylen just mentioned it. Yeah,
Speaker 3: it's it's globally, it's where they're gonna make the money.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they don't make money off of us. We don't
Speaker 1: care about it everywhere else.
Speaker 4: They really the.
Speaker 2: Movie was like budget wise is like half a billion itself,
Speaker 2: so it got to make at least one point five
Speaker 2: to kind of clear the books. Unless he yeah, unless
Speaker 2: he because I heard I heard he shot most of
Speaker 2: this stuff back to back, so unless he was just
Speaker 2: kind of using you know, the same ship, so he
Speaker 2: can probably save money like that. But still this is
Speaker 2: you could tell this is an expensive as move. And
Speaker 2: j was talking about why doesn't Marvels. Marvel doesn't concentrate
Speaker 2: on movies like for this long.
Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly why I'm just saying I would. I would.
Speaker 4: I would prefer that they did. But yeah, I know
Speaker 4: why they don't do it, because I mean.
Speaker 1: It's also it's popcorn, it's real fast. But I mean,
Speaker 1: i mean, shiit three three forty five worldwide in the
Speaker 1: first weekend.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but this is I'm like, the next movie is
Speaker 2: probably gonna be three hours and thirty minutes or or
Speaker 2: something like that, And I'm like, bro at that point,
Speaker 2: speaking as a moviegoer, got cycling me out? Who has
Speaker 2: enough time to because I saw Minds at ten forty five,
Speaker 2: kis I didn't get home to like a on three
Speaker 2: in the morning too, because you got you got thirty
Speaker 2: minute previews. You know, they're trying to show every preview
Speaker 2: in the world for this one because they know everybody
Speaker 2: trying to see it. I'm not, I'm not. I don't
Speaker 2: know if I never have thought maybe the Avengers movies
Speaker 2: are the only movies where I'm like, I'll even go
Speaker 2: and I'll sit for three hours and watch this because
Speaker 2: these are characters that I mean, not developing for Hammler
Speaker 2: that was a one off, Nigga, I'm not open ham
Speaker 2: He'd got three sequels coming out what we see in
Speaker 2: Opie arguing with a sad chick like, I'm not doing
Speaker 2: like he it's a one If you're doing a one off,
Speaker 2: that's fine. But to tell me that this is a
Speaker 2: one long movie and they're just cut up in like
Speaker 2: increments and saying the next one's gonna still be three
Speaker 2: and nine hours, I'm not doing that. I'm not doing that.
Speaker 2: I'll wait till it come out. I wait till the stream.
Speaker 2: This is where the streaming wars come into or I'm
Speaker 2: gonna wait till the stream.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I'll probably watch it, but I won't
Speaker 3: be happy about it.
Speaker 4: But I'm I'm I'm not this movie.
Speaker 1: I was kind of enthused to see where they were
Speaker 1: gonna go after the last one, especially with the death
Speaker 1: or whatever, even though I haven't seen it since it
Speaker 1: came out.
Speaker 4: Like when I did a recap, I was like, oh,
Speaker 4: I did remember all those beats and enjoyed the movie.
Speaker 1: Then after seeing this one, I'm like, ah, man, like
Speaker 1: this wasn't as what I wanted to be, but I
Speaker 1: would prefer to watch it on a big ass s
Speaker 1: cream and streaming, just because that's visually how it looks.
Speaker 1: But I understand exactly what Nick is at. I'm not
Speaker 1: saying you wrong, Nick, because I understand exactly where you at.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, And you know I was thinking about now
Speaker 3: versus next week. I think it kind of works. I
Speaker 3: think once because next week a lot of people are
Speaker 3: going to be off for the holidays, so it may
Speaker 3: and I'll be interested to see the numbers as we
Speaker 3: get ready to close out. I read Superchats next is
Speaker 3: the numbers may take off because people are looking at
Speaker 3: us a three hours bro. Nah, I'm off next week.
Speaker 3: We'll just go make a family of been out of
Speaker 3: it and that'll be that. So I'll see if it
Speaker 3: if it picks up. But and I but yeah, but
Speaker 3: either way, I go. That's it, man. That's our review
Speaker 3: of Avatar. I do. I did like the villain of Iran.
Speaker 3: I think it's her name. Did she die? She just
Speaker 3: ran off? Right?
Speaker 2: I just saw her run off. I didn't see it.
Speaker 2: I didn't see her die. Like getting a lot of
Speaker 2: a lot of A lot of the main characters are
Speaker 2: still on the board. The only one I got took
Speaker 2: off was the sun and the one the one arm will, Dude,
Speaker 2: I don't like that. Everybody was waiting to die.
Speaker 3: Mm hmm, okay, good because I liked her. I liked her,
Speaker 3: so I definitely want to get that fight. And I
Speaker 3: think she she really could have made for for an
Speaker 3: interesting villain, her fighting fire versus the water, Like we
Speaker 3: really got the that clash man that that could have
Speaker 3: been dope. But hopefully they'll well, I don't know, we're
Speaker 3: going to space. We'll see how that playoff.
Speaker 1: Second highest, second highest global opening behind Nick's Corny.
Speaker 3: As Listen, I saw Atopia was killing.
Speaker 4: Bro.
Speaker 2: Hey, I'm trying to tell you I'd rather watch Utopia
Speaker 2: twice than watch this movie ever again.
Speaker 3: Bro, this movie I gotta go see too.
Speaker 2: Hey, Ken, I'm trying to tell you it's shipping on
Speaker 2: inside out. I don't go fuck with these biggest.
Speaker 4: I'm telling you that he took all by enjoyment out
Speaker 4: of Dutopia just from that tape.
Speaker 2: Just because of that tape, they.
Speaker 4: Took me out of it.
Speaker 2: I'm trying they made animals fun again, That's what I'm
Speaker 2: trying to say. They read after the Wheel, all.
Speaker 3: Right, man, real quick. A couple of super chats with
Speaker 3: them boys said, that's a cool movie. A member chat
Speaker 3: remember for forty seven months. Appreciate it cool movie. Seven
Speaker 3: point five out of ten enjoyed the story and images,
Speaker 3: which is well visually is what Avatar is all about?
Speaker 3: Black Ross. What was the most disappointing movie this year?
Speaker 2: Damn, that's a good question.
Speaker 4: I have to log into my left probably j JK execution.
Speaker 3: For me.
Speaker 4: Did you some guys in the movie was the most disappointing?
Speaker 2: I got I gotta think. I'm I'm gonna answer that.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna I gotta look at the movies that came
Speaker 2: out this year.
Speaker 4: Yeah, can you keep going?
Speaker 2: I'm gonna come back to a kid.
Speaker 3: Okay, Yeah, I gotta pull up my letter box, get
Speaker 3: up open the time. Did y'all watch the doomsday trailer
Speaker 3: in theaters?
Speaker 2: Yes, that's the main reason why I went to answer
Speaker 2: the previous question. Captain America, Brave New World. That was
Speaker 2: the most disappointing that movie could have been. The trailer
Speaker 2: made it seem like it was gonna be a lot
Speaker 2: better than what it was.
Speaker 4: The trailer gave you the movie did do all the movies?
Speaker 2: Kid?
Speaker 4: I had to he told the truth.
Speaker 2: That's the first black cap in in cinema history, kid,
Speaker 2: and they did that nigga that way.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 2: Yes, I went to the movies mostly to see this
Speaker 2: doomsday trailer, teaser trailer, just to tell them, just for
Speaker 2: them to tell us something that we already knew.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 1: It wasn't us, man, I mean, it's bullshit, but it
Speaker 1: wasn't for us. It's by the people who gave up
Speaker 1: at the end game.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah. And I think they said they're gonna do
Speaker 2: like three more, three four more of like like that
Speaker 2: before they dropped the trailer, like Thor was supposed to
Speaker 2: get one Doomsday supposed to I mean doctor Dum maybe
Speaker 2: is gonna get one, and I forgot somebody else was
Speaker 2: gonna get one. Oh, but I think this is Thor
Speaker 2: in them's like last one essentially.
Speaker 1: That's see what they say we're gonna see until they
Speaker 1: put enough money in front of them and we're gonna see.
Speaker 3: M hmm. I wish I could have I saw it.
Speaker 3: I just didn't hear it, but I don't be trying
Speaker 3: to watch the trailers. But they they didn't have any
Speaker 3: sound on it when they were running trailers. Uh.
Speaker 2: Oh, we saw the trailer, but you didn't hear what
Speaker 2: it was. Nothing was said. It was just it was
Speaker 2: just like they just started the clock on this time.
Speaker 2: Next year, they're gonna drop Doomsday.
Speaker 3: Okay, it's fine, I'm cool. Not haven't watched it. Let's see,
Speaker 3: y'all plan on reviewing plural bus or Dairy Yep, yep, yeah,
Speaker 3: we already reviewed Dairy. Oh yeah, we'll definitely talk about
Speaker 3: plural Busts as well, because I think that's done. Well.
Speaker 3: We have one more.
Speaker 2: I haven't watched. I haven't checked it out, y'all. I
Speaker 2: was gonna binge watch it. Is it worth it?
Speaker 3: It's worth being watching. I stopped watching it because it
Speaker 3: was it was dragging for me.
Speaker 1: I understand not watching the Week the week because it's
Speaker 1: from the people that may breaking bad, right, Yeah exactly,
Speaker 1: So that's why. Yeah, they Yeah, they always drag shit
Speaker 1: out yea mm.
Speaker 3: Hmmm yeah, it's like, bro, come on, uh, disappointing, not
Speaker 3: worse more movie. I would go with Predator bad Lands.
Speaker 2: That wasn't that bad. That's that's not that bad kid, Predator, Bro.
Speaker 4: But that's also not what he saw.
Speaker 1: He said, not bad, he said, disappointing, not bad movie disappointing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because he was because he was emotional.
Speaker 4: His predator, his predator.
Speaker 3: Feelix.
Speaker 2: They all can't be thus bro.
Speaker 3: But yeah, yeah, r k F master, what's the movie
Speaker 3: so bad that it made you upset? Hurry up tomorrow.
Speaker 4: I can't understand that.
Speaker 2: I was gonna say, it's arguably him or or The
Speaker 2: Running Man.
Speaker 3: Damn the Running Man.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because it was like it was hyped up to
Speaker 2: be a good ass movie, kid, and it was like
Speaker 2: you could have kept that.
Speaker 3: I ain't know they were hyping it up.
Speaker 2: They was hyping up Running Running Man was supposed to
Speaker 2: be like one of like the big surprises of the year,
Speaker 2: and they came and went like a fart in the wind.
Speaker 3: It did. It's on streaming now.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they put that it was running to the streamers.
Speaker 2: That's always exactly in two weeks, Yo, by the top
Speaker 2: of your necks, check comes that motherfucker's nineteen ninety nine. Yeah,
Speaker 2: that movie was cheeks.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I took my nieces to see Smurfs.
Speaker 2: Don't do that. Don't blame it on them. Just said
Speaker 2: you want to see smurs.
Speaker 4: I'm not a Smurfs fan, but this ship is terrible.
Speaker 3: That shit was terrible.
Speaker 1: Bro, I was trying to be a cool uncle and
Speaker 1: I was in there. They was looking at me like
Speaker 1: I was ruining the movie for them, Bro, I was
Speaker 1: trying my best not to. But yeah, Smurca was definitely terrible.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, that made me upset.
Speaker 3: I gotta watch it. You have to know. I didn't
Speaker 3: miss anything. Last one black Rock's Too Hot takes. I
Speaker 3: would live in Gotham before I would spend an hour
Speaker 3: in Kingstown. Second, Darry was the best HBO show this year.
Speaker 3: The Pit was number two.
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna give out my dairy taste, but The
Speaker 2: Pit may be the best HBO show this year. Well,
Speaker 2: didn't the Penguin come out this year? Was that last year?
Speaker 3: Last year?
Speaker 2: Last year? Hold on, let me see what h show
Speaker 2: TV shirt shows came out this year? Derry was good,
Speaker 2: but it was also kind of I ain't gonna say
Speaker 2: much afterday your.
Speaker 4: View tomorrow, I'm say nigga review. I didn't think he's right, Bro.
Speaker 2: I think the I would put the Pit over Darry though. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I think it's just splitting here, spliping here, but I
Speaker 2: would rather be in Kingstown than Gotham. Bro, got from
Speaker 2: your ass, can get taped out by the Joker. But
Speaker 2: he's spreading acid in your face or he's making you cry.
Speaker 2: And ship Kingstoyle, you're just dealing with niggas, you know.
Speaker 4: I take that back.
Speaker 1: Common side effects. Common up there, bro, common side effect.
Speaker 3: Love that ship.
Speaker 2: I haven't finished it. I haven't finished it. I haven't
Speaker 2: finished it.
Speaker 3: I heard it was good though. Yeah, yeah, this year
Speaker 3: I'm glad. Yeah, I got to start working on my list.
Speaker 1: I definitely damn right, you better start working on your
Speaker 1: y'all hear your hand and Hill live, can you better.
Speaker 4: Damn sure work on his list?
Speaker 3: When is the deadline? Man?
Speaker 2: I put it in yesterday.
Speaker 4: It was yesterday.
Speaker 2: Were gonna break You already see that. We're the last
Speaker 2: niggas at the office and you're asking the turn that's
Speaker 2: not gonna get pushed through. The twenty twenty six New
Speaker 2: Year's Eve is the last day?
Speaker 4: Is the day, all right? And the live for y'all listening.
Speaker 4: The live will be January eleven for.
Speaker 1: The top top twenty, top ten films and TV shows
Speaker 1: of twenty twenty five.
Speaker 3: Uh So that was it for the super chant. Quadaloupe
Speaker 3: Jayla wants to know what's going on with the podcast.
Speaker 4: Bro, Man, can't I mean, Nick got on my ass
Speaker 4: this week about it.
Speaker 1: It's coming, man, Nick, me and Nick, niggas gonna help
Speaker 1: me out, make sure I stay accountable to getting it done.
Speaker 4: I'm just, I'm just.
Speaker 1: Life has just been beating my ass and I've been
Speaker 1: falling behind and making sure a frame stuff getting done too.
Speaker 4: So yeah, niggas, niggas holding my feet to the fire.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we gotta. You can't say shit on air, and
Speaker 2: then I follow through the biggest, biggest niggas.
Speaker 1: I tell your niggas, I tell the these nigga about
Speaker 1: that ship all the time, and then I did it myself,
Speaker 1: so exactly, it's coming.
Speaker 3: It's coming, all right, Well, there you go, and that's it, man.
Speaker 3: That's our Those are our thoughts. Review of Avatar. Appreciate
Speaker 3: mister Towns. That's in my Netflix list. I'm gonna watch it.
Speaker 3: But yeah, so we'll catch you guys in the new year. Nick,
Speaker 3: Nick and Jalen, I guess appreciate you guys. Hoppy on
Speaker 3: here to discuss this movie. Was It was fun, No problem, problem.
Speaker 2: Happy holidays, everybody be safe and yeah, enjoy your time
Speaker 2: with your family and friends, all right, appy'all later