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Speaker 2: Forward Slash FPS podcast.

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Speaker 3: The Frames per Second Podcast. It's just us today, people

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Speaker 3: watching Skeleton more than Skeleton Crew.

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Speaker 2: This is the turn shift.

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Speaker 3: Uh yeah, yeah it is. But yeah, man, we here

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Speaker 3: to talk about the new Avatar movie that just dropped,

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Speaker 3: Fire and Ash, which is the third movie. And in

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Speaker 3: this in the collection from James Cameron, What up we

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Speaker 3: them boys? God King? What up? Appreciate everybody joining us.

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Speaker 3: I know you gots. Some of you guys maybe just

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Speaker 3: not be getting out of church all right, so talking

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Speaker 3: about Fire and.

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Speaker 2: Ash this is the wrong conversation for them.

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Speaker 3: Right, But but yeah, man, glad. Everybody's here, man. So

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Speaker 3: you know, it's the holiday season, so we had some folks,

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Speaker 3: we had some scheduling conflicts. So you know, Uh, Spike

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Speaker 3: is out. You see her. You see who's here.

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Speaker 4: So everybody out, but can right.

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Speaker 3: Right? All right? So anyway, here we go. We're gonna

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Speaker 3: get into this movie. It just dropped fire and ash.

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Speaker 4: What up?

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Speaker 3: Everybody? Welcome to a new episode of the Frames per

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Speaker 3: Second Podcast, live live version of James Cameron hit series. Uh,

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Speaker 3: this is Avatar. This is the third movie, which I think.

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Speaker 3: I don't know why. I thought I saw he was

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Speaker 2: I thought it was four. I thought it was four,

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Speaker 4: That's his plan, that is his plan.

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Speaker 3: I think he'll get it. I think he'll he'll he'll

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Speaker 3: But well we'll see if it's worth him doing a

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Speaker 3: fourth one after we finished the discussing this one. So

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Speaker 3: so we appreciate you guys. My name is Kennethy and

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Speaker 3: joined him on the show is Nick and Jalen? What up?

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Speaker 2: What's going on?

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Speaker 4: What's happening y'all? Man? What's good? That's good? That's good.

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Speaker 4: I'm very excited to talk about this film.

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Speaker 3: I don't know why. I don't know why. Well, for

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Speaker 3: those of you that are not familiar with Avatar, which

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Speaker 3: I don't know how that's possible because the first one

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Speaker 3: dropped in two thousand and nine, I think you know.

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Speaker 3: It's a twenty twenty five American epic science fiction film

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Speaker 3: directed by James Cameron, Rick Haffa and Amanda silver corotha screenplay.

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Speaker 3: And you have who's starring in it. I think one

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Speaker 3: of the guys we just talked about Nick in SISU.

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Speaker 3: But you have Sam Worthington as Jake Sully, Zoe Zodana

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Speaker 3: let's let's get into it. Man. Nick thoughts of the

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Speaker 2: I saw this Thursday night, because yeah, we recorded Thursday,

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Speaker 2: Because I'll say this first and foremost, I did not

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Speaker 2: Overall thoughts, this is p probably going to be If

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Speaker 2: I would never return to this movie. This is I

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Speaker 1: I think it's I think it's why I I think

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Speaker 4: It hits the same beats.

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Speaker 1: Isn't two, Like it's not really any true things that

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Speaker 4: I saw it in three D. It looked amazing.

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Speaker 1: It it it it, I mean, it always looks amazing,

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Speaker 1: like you really think this is really It honestly makes

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Speaker 1: It'll be like, bro, like this the kind of cgi

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Speaker 1: this it's a good it's a great experience. It's a

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Speaker 4: But it's it's just super alright, man, It's just it's super.

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Speaker 4: I I take you, I take you your rating, Nick,

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Speaker 4: and I put supid on it.

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Speaker 2: I don't even I could give it that Ken, I

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Speaker 3: You said, Uh, James Cameron did his thing. Man. I

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Speaker 3: Like you, Nick, I watched this movie late eleven thirty.

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Speaker 3: I get there. We were talking about this a little

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Speaker 3: do not want to go see this movie. The runtime

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Speaker 3: second hour, you're seeing a lot of shit that didn't

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Speaker 2: Bruh man, this this is this is the ultimate director's cut.

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Speaker 2: This is this is why this is this movie proves

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Speaker 2: cut this down by an hour, like make this two hours,

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Speaker 2: Like this really is only a two hour movie. That's

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Speaker 1: And then honest, this ship is an hour because a

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Speaker 2: Number two well, I'm just well, I'm saying because there

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Speaker 2: back again. It's just like like I don't care, Like

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Speaker 3: the sky people, but yeah, the ash people, that's what.

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Speaker 1: The that's whats.

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Speaker 2: Hey and ask niggas to kid because they do is

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Speaker 3: So I did see James Cameron try the right Spider

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Speaker 1: He said he wanted to write him out and it

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Speaker 1: But see Nick, see those are the parts, and I'm like, bro,

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Speaker 2: They had me the first third. Nigga ain't the first

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Speaker 1: You know where it kind of took me? Well, I

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Speaker 2: Well, the thing the going back a little bit. The

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Speaker 2: We need to drop. The wife of Jake Southy was like,

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Speaker 2: we didn't leave him with his people, send him back.

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Speaker 2: So he was Jake was like, all right, bet we're

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Speaker 2: that's when the ASKU become. But they was warned about

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Speaker 3: Mm hmm yeah, yeah, what you know was a good

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Speaker 2: Which is my thing is like, bro, we we've seen

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Speaker 2: ain't get Zoey's out Donald versus Ashy Ashy Larry, Like,

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Speaker 2: like we didn't We should have got a final battle

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Speaker 1: Yeah we shouldstead of the two we always get exactly

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: But I mean James Cameron did say that these were

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Speaker 2: It makes sense because j remember what I will tell

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Speaker 2: because they didn't really give us enough space to kind

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Speaker 4: But it felt like they they stopped, they stopped.

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Speaker 1: And it went too many new characters though, Nick, But

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Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly one character that we cared about from that

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it seems like he's using each movie to build

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Speaker 2: You know, if I'm around the this is like Captain

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Speaker 2: fan Like when that little boy was about to take

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Speaker 2: in this world, you're gonna have to take some motherfuckers

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Speaker 2: I felt but.

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Speaker 1: Even but that's that's what had me engaged for this one.

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Speaker 1: I felt like Nick watching this movie. I was like, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: like y'all gave me.

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Speaker 4: It's a part of.

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Speaker 1: It was y'all gave me the son and the second

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Speaker 1: everything to move forward, So let's make this a thing

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Speaker 1: It would have meant something. It would have meant something

435
00:23:29,640 --> 00:23:31,879
Speaker 1: to take him off the board. That's that's that's that's

436
00:23:31,920 --> 00:23:34,200
Speaker 1: when they lost me in the movie. I was like, no,

437
00:23:34,840 --> 00:23:38,199
Speaker 1: like that moment where she was furious and wanted to

438
00:23:38,480 --> 00:23:41,040
Speaker 1: she didn't care about him, And then Jake came around

439
00:23:41,040 --> 00:23:44,560
Speaker 1: and was like bruh, I like, this is the only way,

440
00:23:45,119 --> 00:23:48,080
Speaker 1: like the theme of the movie about grief and fire

441
00:23:48,160 --> 00:23:51,200
Speaker 1: and anger and all that, like that would have made

442
00:23:51,200 --> 00:23:53,280
Speaker 1: this movie like move even further. And I just felt

443
00:23:53,280 --> 00:23:55,840
Speaker 1: like if they would have did it, and however the

444
00:23:56,119 --> 00:23:58,240
Speaker 1: chips fall from there, I would have been into it.

445
00:23:58,280 --> 00:23:59,879
Speaker 1: I would have I would have just probably been into it.

446
00:23:59,880 --> 00:24:01,720
Speaker 1: But not doing that took a lot of win out

447
00:24:01,720 --> 00:24:02,320
Speaker 1: of the movie.

448
00:24:02,560 --> 00:24:05,040
Speaker 2: And I know we have to get to the specific

449
00:24:05,040 --> 00:24:08,640
Speaker 2: stuff about Spider. But that scene, that that biblical scene

450
00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:10,840
Speaker 2: that Jake had with Spider where it was like was

451
00:24:10,840 --> 00:24:14,080
Speaker 2: it Abraham and his son whatever the fuck it is,

452
00:24:14,520 --> 00:24:17,480
Speaker 2: where he was about to slit his throat, I'm thinking, like, bro,

453
00:24:17,680 --> 00:24:19,919
Speaker 2: if so if he actually, if they actually went with that,

454
00:24:20,000 --> 00:24:22,639
Speaker 2: went through with that, that would show that Jake is

455
00:24:22,680 --> 00:24:25,400
Speaker 2: no longer human, you know what I'm saying, Like he's

456
00:24:25,400 --> 00:24:29,480
Speaker 2: literally killing his human side because every because his logic

457
00:24:29,680 --> 00:24:32,760
Speaker 2: was what's going on with Spider? If they find out

458
00:24:32,760 --> 00:24:34,640
Speaker 2: about that, and if they really what they already found

459
00:24:34,640 --> 00:24:36,359
Speaker 2: out about it, but they really capitalize on it, it's

460
00:24:36,359 --> 00:24:39,720
Speaker 2: gonna destroy this whole planet. And I got to kill

461
00:24:39,760 --> 00:24:42,200
Speaker 2: the root, you know, And even though he's an innocent kid,

462
00:24:43,440 --> 00:24:45,720
Speaker 2: he ain't worth this. He ain't worth the planet, you

463
00:24:45,760 --> 00:24:48,680
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying. And that to me was like, bro,

464
00:24:48,760 --> 00:24:51,400
Speaker 2: I won't. I would, And of course, because they elongated

465
00:24:51,400 --> 00:24:54,000
Speaker 2: the fuck out of that scene, we knew he wasn't

466
00:24:54,040 --> 00:24:56,280
Speaker 2: gonna do it. But I'm thinking, if he did that,

467
00:24:56,280 --> 00:24:59,119
Speaker 2: that makes this movie so much more interesting and so

468
00:24:59,200 --> 00:25:01,040
Speaker 2: much more compelling for or the fourth Hie, because I'm like,

469
00:25:01,040 --> 00:25:03,240
Speaker 2: all right, what how does he move forward now that

470
00:25:03,359 --> 00:25:04,680
Speaker 2: he is not a human normal?

471
00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:11,080
Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah, he was essentially used as as as a

472
00:25:11,119 --> 00:25:16,600
Speaker 3: pawn to make the story work for this one. And

473
00:25:16,880 --> 00:25:20,160
Speaker 3: I forgot where I read the article about Spider because

474
00:25:20,160 --> 00:25:22,000
Speaker 3: I was really wondering about him because he was just

475
00:25:22,119 --> 00:25:25,359
Speaker 3: kind of there. He's just kind of like the vice

476
00:25:25,480 --> 00:25:27,600
Speaker 3: of the mcguffin that kind of moves along, you know,

477
00:25:27,960 --> 00:25:32,560
Speaker 3: to a certain degree, but especially when you know they

478
00:25:32,880 --> 00:25:37,000
Speaker 3: crash landed and you know the ash people running around,

479
00:25:37,160 --> 00:25:43,480
Speaker 3: you know, killing everybody like ruthlessly, and he couldn't even

480
00:25:43,520 --> 00:25:46,800
Speaker 3: get his mask. He runs around and I knew it

481
00:25:46,840 --> 00:25:49,480
Speaker 3: wasn't gonna work because the sun ain't worth the damn.

482
00:25:49,920 --> 00:25:54,840
Speaker 3: The kid actor is god awful. They gave her a

483
00:25:54,840 --> 00:25:58,720
Speaker 3: few speaking lines. All they had her do is his

484
00:26:02,400 --> 00:26:06,440
Speaker 3: and then uh, and then you got uh, this this

485
00:26:06,440 --> 00:26:11,040
Speaker 3: this girl that has powers that her mom, the Oshawa

486
00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:12,800
Speaker 3: whatever is. She don't even want to talk to her.

487
00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:16,679
Speaker 3: She kept trying to talk to her. He said, you

488
00:26:16,720 --> 00:26:18,440
Speaker 3: come back here, we're gonna I'm gonna kill you ass

489
00:26:18,600 --> 00:26:21,439
Speaker 3: and you know so. But somehow, some way she managed

490
00:26:21,440 --> 00:26:26,760
Speaker 3: to give Spider the power to breathe without the fucking mask. Bro.

491
00:26:27,240 --> 00:26:31,399
Speaker 3: That's where he should have died. He died there. Hey

492
00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:33,440
Speaker 3: you might got something.

493
00:26:33,840 --> 00:26:35,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, my thing.

494
00:26:35,359 --> 00:26:36,919
Speaker 3: You know, you guys are saying they pretty been more

495
00:26:36,960 --> 00:26:38,800
Speaker 3: impactful if they killed him.

496
00:26:39,080 --> 00:26:43,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it'll be more impactful from that standpoint,

497
00:26:43,880 --> 00:26:47,359
Speaker 2: especially after following that scene, because then it's like, Okay,

498
00:26:47,400 --> 00:26:49,399
Speaker 2: so he's not a liability as much as he was,

499
00:26:50,040 --> 00:26:52,399
Speaker 2: but he's he's not well, he's not a liability as

500
00:26:52,480 --> 00:26:55,160
Speaker 2: much as he was when it comes to traveling with y'all,

501
00:26:55,359 --> 00:26:57,960
Speaker 2: But now he's a moral liability for the planet because

502
00:26:57,960 --> 00:26:59,840
Speaker 2: of who he is now, because of what he transformed

503
00:26:59,880 --> 00:27:03,040
Speaker 2: in He even got his little baby dread. I hated

504
00:27:03,040 --> 00:27:09,360
Speaker 2: this kid. It was then he grew out of nowhere

505
00:27:09,640 --> 00:27:11,800
Speaker 2: to where was all the way on his back and

506
00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:16,320
Speaker 2: he can connect to ship. Ah, I hate I hated him.

507
00:27:16,320 --> 00:27:18,040
Speaker 1: I don't know why they gave him that ship, Like nah,

508
00:27:18,080 --> 00:27:20,000
Speaker 1: he don't need to be he don't need to be there.

509
00:27:20,200 --> 00:27:20,720
Speaker 2: Let them know.

510
00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:22,960
Speaker 1: Just give him the ability to breathe if that, because

511
00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:24,760
Speaker 1: even taking that away was a lot for me, Like

512
00:27:24,840 --> 00:27:26,080
Speaker 1: y'all didn't have to take it away.

513
00:27:26,080 --> 00:27:27,080
Speaker 4: But I'm fine with.

514
00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:29,840
Speaker 1: You're doing it, okay whatever, But now he can interact

515
00:27:29,840 --> 00:27:32,760
Speaker 1: with the ecosystem and all that. Like, nah, nigga, you're

516
00:27:32,760 --> 00:27:35,280
Speaker 1: still outside the nigga, don't be doing all it. It's

517
00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:37,320
Speaker 1: like it's like bringing the white boy around, Like yeah,

518
00:27:37,320 --> 00:27:39,240
Speaker 1: you can rap nigga, but you bet not say nigga.

519
00:27:39,280 --> 00:27:41,600
Speaker 4: It's like nah, like that's our ship.

520
00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:42,520
Speaker 2: That's our ship.

521
00:27:42,560 --> 00:27:43,560
Speaker 4: That's how they should have left it.

522
00:27:43,880 --> 00:27:45,560
Speaker 3: And he was damn sure dressing with him. He was

523
00:27:45,600 --> 00:27:47,440
Speaker 3: painting blue ship on him and everything. He had blue

524
00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:48,600
Speaker 3: tattoos and all kinds.

525
00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:49,480
Speaker 2: Of shit, all that ship to.

526
00:27:50,520 --> 00:27:51,920
Speaker 3: Blue face or whatever you want.

527
00:27:51,760 --> 00:27:53,200
Speaker 2: To call it.

528
00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:54,600
Speaker 3: He was he was.

529
00:27:54,560 --> 00:27:58,600
Speaker 2: Trying to be He was like assimilating, like crazy knowing,

530
00:27:58,840 --> 00:28:01,879
Speaker 2: and he knows he's human too, dude, Like he knows

531
00:28:01,920 --> 00:28:04,800
Speaker 2: that he doesn't belong there, but he keeps on saying

532
00:28:04,800 --> 00:28:07,000
Speaker 2: like this the only family. This this feels like Mallible's

533
00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:09,320
Speaker 2: most wanted, but just trying to take it too seriously

534
00:28:09,720 --> 00:28:15,120
Speaker 2: or it's like, Nigga, you not know? And my thing

535
00:28:15,200 --> 00:28:18,120
Speaker 2: is also the whole Sigourney weavership. Bro, It's the weirdest

536
00:28:18,119 --> 00:28:20,280
Speaker 2: thing in the world. Bro. Why do we have this

537
00:28:20,440 --> 00:28:23,400
Speaker 2: sixty plus year old white woman playing a fifteen year

538
00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:27,600
Speaker 2: old alien or whatever the fuck she is and then

539
00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:31,199
Speaker 2: have her be a romantic interest to the outside of

540
00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:35,080
Speaker 2: white boy, and on top of that, she's supposed to

541
00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:38,800
Speaker 2: be Jesus. It's just like it's like, what are we

542
00:28:38,840 --> 00:28:40,400
Speaker 2: trying to like what are we trying to say here?

543
00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:41,760
Speaker 2: Like like I don't.

544
00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:44,600
Speaker 1: But see that's the threat and That's one of the

545
00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:47,000
Speaker 1: threads was like, you didn't give me I want to

546
00:28:47,040 --> 00:28:49,640
Speaker 1: know more, but you also didn't give me enough to

547
00:28:50,040 --> 00:28:53,400
Speaker 1: like feel truly invested in it. It's like it's more

548
00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:56,640
Speaker 1: of a curiosity than an investment of wanting to know.

549
00:28:56,920 --> 00:28:59,520
Speaker 1: Like so like if the movies ended here, I wouldn't

550
00:28:59,560 --> 00:29:01,800
Speaker 1: feel obligated to like.

551
00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:04,160
Speaker 4: Go up in arms, like damn man, they ended it

552
00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:04,840
Speaker 4: on the third one.

553
00:29:04,880 --> 00:29:06,680
Speaker 1: It's like, all right, well it wasn't It wasn't a

554
00:29:06,760 --> 00:29:08,960
Speaker 1: terrible And then there's the questions I got, but I

555
00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:11,440
Speaker 1: can live without those questions answered. And you didn't give

556
00:29:11,480 --> 00:29:14,120
Speaker 1: me enough to be truly invested in that plot line,

557
00:29:14,360 --> 00:29:18,960
Speaker 1: and you took time to basically focus on it, and

558
00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:20,280
Speaker 1: it kind of took away from the movie.

559
00:29:20,440 --> 00:29:21,960
Speaker 4: Like there's certain things that you could have gave us

560
00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:22,840
Speaker 4: more on than that.

561
00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:29,560
Speaker 3: I didn't. I didn't understand quartage relationship with Jake Sully.

562
00:29:29,720 --> 00:29:33,440
Speaker 3: It's almost like he respected him, and especially when they

563
00:29:33,520 --> 00:29:36,760
Speaker 3: landed on the planet, because he had who he needed,

564
00:29:36,800 --> 00:29:39,600
Speaker 3: he captured him. I don't know why he was so

565
00:29:39,720 --> 00:29:42,320
Speaker 3: hell bent on going to save the kid and forming

566
00:29:42,360 --> 00:29:45,120
Speaker 3: a partnership with him. It made no sense because at

567
00:29:45,160 --> 00:29:49,160
Speaker 3: that point he didn't even see the apple of what

568
00:29:49,240 --> 00:29:57,240
Speaker 3: eventually came as I give me all the guns.

569
00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:05,360
Speaker 2: Talk about relation, Like he didn't walked in.

570
00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:08,240
Speaker 4: He walked into the bas like yeah, like my woman.

571
00:30:08,360 --> 00:30:13,400
Speaker 2: He kid Eatie Falco, ain't no what to do. She

572
00:30:13,520 --> 00:30:18,200
Speaker 2: was like, Nigga, you are a disgrace, Like look at

573
00:30:18,240 --> 00:30:25,959
Speaker 2: your boofy ass.

574
00:30:23,040 --> 00:30:27,000
Speaker 3: You and all these savages out of here. Bru I

575
00:30:27,040 --> 00:30:30,360
Speaker 3: was like, yo, did he really just really put on

576
00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:31,400
Speaker 3: black face.

577
00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:34,520
Speaker 2: That he put on all colors? He was with all

578
00:30:34,520 --> 00:30:36,400
Speaker 2: the colors kids, and he.

579
00:30:36,400 --> 00:30:40,920
Speaker 1: Became ashy on purpose, and Nigga turned into Andre after

580
00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:41,560
Speaker 1: meet Erica.

581
00:30:41,680 --> 00:30:41,800
Speaker 3: Bro.

582
00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:47,680
Speaker 2: He was he was, he was, He was electric, circus

583
00:30:47,760 --> 00:30:53,480
Speaker 2: common this Hey, he popped that Hey, he popped that

584
00:30:53,640 --> 00:30:55,920
Speaker 2: bean kid, and he ain't know what to do after

585
00:30:55,960 --> 00:30:58,760
Speaker 2: that he popped the being. He starts seeing babies in

586
00:30:58,880 --> 00:31:02,920
Speaker 2: the water and all this shy.

587
00:31:03,120 --> 00:31:05,960
Speaker 3: She she she gave him that Bill Cosby ship. Bro.

588
00:31:08,160 --> 00:31:11,000
Speaker 3: He was like, this is good. He wasn't right the

589
00:31:11,040 --> 00:31:11,760
Speaker 3: rest of the movie.

590
00:31:14,760 --> 00:31:18,360
Speaker 4: That's boring. That's some good ship. He said something like that, like, man,

591
00:31:18,480 --> 00:31:19,720
Speaker 4: she got you, Nigga.

592
00:31:19,480 --> 00:31:20,160
Speaker 3: But he was.

593
00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:21,960
Speaker 2: He was my favorite character in the whole movie.

594
00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:22,160
Speaker 3: Bro.

595
00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:25,320
Speaker 2: He was the best thing about this whole movie every time,

596
00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:29,520
Speaker 2: because he was the motherfucker that was just like there

597
00:31:29,560 --> 00:31:32,760
Speaker 2: was no questions with him, like he he knew what

598
00:31:32,800 --> 00:31:34,840
Speaker 2: he wanted to do, even though he changed like you

599
00:31:34,840 --> 00:31:36,840
Speaker 2: would tell he changed his mind a little bit, but

600
00:31:36,920 --> 00:31:38,760
Speaker 2: he even played on it and was joking about it.

601
00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:40,920
Speaker 2: He was like, well, what we supposed to do?

602
00:31:41,040 --> 00:31:41,240
Speaker 4: Now?

603
00:31:41,480 --> 00:31:44,520
Speaker 2: Am I supposed to see you? I see you? He

604
00:31:44,680 --> 00:31:47,240
Speaker 2: was taking all these jokes and ship because he knew

605
00:31:47,280 --> 00:31:49,040
Speaker 2: his characters like I'm supposed to be the villain, I'm

606
00:31:49,040 --> 00:31:54,000
Speaker 2: supposed to be the anti hero or whatever, and I'm

607
00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:56,240
Speaker 2: not going I'm not moving off that you know, off

608
00:31:56,240 --> 00:31:59,640
Speaker 2: that street, off that block, and everybody else kind of

609
00:31:59,680 --> 00:32:03,840
Speaker 2: just felt like they were still hesitant on who they

610
00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:05,920
Speaker 2: really wanted to be. And that's why I really liked

611
00:32:05,920 --> 00:32:08,200
Speaker 2: his character, just like being like I'm here to do

612
00:32:08,240 --> 00:32:10,280
Speaker 2: this one thing and this one thing. Granted it's been

613
00:32:10,360 --> 00:32:12,920
Speaker 2: the same mission since the first film, but he was

614
00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:14,400
Speaker 2: just to me, the best character because he was the

615
00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:15,080
Speaker 2: most consistent.

616
00:32:15,720 --> 00:32:18,400
Speaker 1: Hey, Nick, I'm looking in the chat and a lot

617
00:32:18,400 --> 00:32:19,760
Speaker 1: of niggas saying they do the same.

618
00:32:20,360 --> 00:32:23,040
Speaker 4: Boy. All I can think about ain't nothing like crazy?

619
00:32:25,120 --> 00:32:28,480
Speaker 2: Hey, nah, you see you see their first interaction on

620
00:32:28,600 --> 00:32:30,760
Speaker 2: she was like, she was like, teach me how to

621
00:32:30,760 --> 00:32:33,160
Speaker 2: make a thunder that Nigga was like, what you say

622
00:32:33,240 --> 00:32:41,200
Speaker 2: to me? He gave her the good quick that I

623
00:32:41,320 --> 00:32:46,080
Speaker 2: gave you something, Nelse the whole Later he said, I

624
00:32:46,080 --> 00:32:47,720
Speaker 2: got a lot more when that came Bro.

625
00:32:49,640 --> 00:32:51,840
Speaker 3: And he lied the old boy, he was like, he

626
00:32:51,920 --> 00:32:53,840
Speaker 3: was like, yeah, I got I got a plan. It's

627
00:32:53,840 --> 00:32:54,800
Speaker 3: a little radical though.

628
00:32:56,920 --> 00:32:58,680
Speaker 1: He had that plan and me and that he had

629
00:32:58,720 --> 00:33:01,040
Speaker 1: that playing in mind ever since he met her.

630
00:33:01,080 --> 00:33:03,240
Speaker 4: Bro, you trying to make it seem like it wouldn't work,

631
00:33:03,240 --> 00:33:04,960
Speaker 4: and nah, he knew what he was up to. He

632
00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:07,920
Speaker 4: knew exactly what he wanted to do so he met her.

633
00:33:08,440 --> 00:33:11,080
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Speaker 2: Man. My thing was like his relationship with Spider was

644
00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:50,840
Speaker 2: weird too, because every point in time I was wondering, like,

645
00:33:50,840 --> 00:33:52,040
Speaker 2: why do you care about this kid?

646
00:33:52,680 --> 00:33:55,160
Speaker 1: Like said he said his life. I mean that is

647
00:33:55,160 --> 00:33:57,440
Speaker 1: his son. But I mean I get it. You don't

648
00:33:57,440 --> 00:33:59,000
Speaker 1: give a It's not really his.

649
00:33:59,000 --> 00:34:01,040
Speaker 2: Son no moretal you know what I'm saying, Like you're

650
00:34:01,040 --> 00:34:04,360
Speaker 2: a clone of an avatar. You're not even human anymore.

651
00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:05,600
Speaker 2: You just have the memories of it.

652
00:34:06,080 --> 00:34:07,720
Speaker 1: But you gotta remember, Like that's one thing that people

653
00:34:07,720 --> 00:34:10,160
Speaker 1: always use with clones. Clones don't think they're clones. They

654
00:34:10,160 --> 00:34:12,640
Speaker 1: think they're the real thing. So to him, he is

655
00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:15,840
Speaker 1: the real thing, and that is really his son. And

656
00:34:15,880 --> 00:34:18,960
Speaker 1: even though Spider was like not fucking with him a lot,

657
00:34:19,120 --> 00:34:21,080
Speaker 1: you saved my life when you could have let me die.

658
00:34:21,560 --> 00:34:23,439
Speaker 1: And so the party, you care about me, no matter

659
00:34:23,440 --> 00:34:25,400
Speaker 1: what you say, you care about me.

660
00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:28,800
Speaker 2: Like I don't care what he shot that motherfucker. Remember

661
00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:30,960
Speaker 2: when he was holding off thing, He's like he's like

662
00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:33,040
Speaker 2: pull me up, and like, well, nigga, you ain't shoot

663
00:34:33,080 --> 00:34:35,040
Speaker 2: me in the arm. I want to pull your goofy

664
00:34:35,080 --> 00:34:38,760
Speaker 2: ass up, Like it's just a it's the weirdest relationship ever.

665
00:34:41,160 --> 00:34:43,560
Speaker 2: They're trying to co parent at the same time, Ken,

666
00:34:43,600 --> 00:34:45,560
Speaker 2: and I'm like, I don't both of them wanted to

667
00:34:45,640 --> 00:34:47,000
Speaker 2: kid well, one of them wanted to kill them, the

668
00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:47,600
Speaker 2: other one.

669
00:34:47,520 --> 00:34:51,520
Speaker 3: Just wants to Yeah, Like after they got through when

670
00:34:51,560 --> 00:34:53,200
Speaker 3: he pulled the mother, He's like, well, this is awkward.

671
00:34:53,239 --> 00:34:56,120
Speaker 2: He has some good one he had some great ones.

672
00:34:56,200 --> 00:34:58,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, because I was thinking the same thing. I

673
00:34:58,480 --> 00:35:00,120
Speaker 3: was like, here's a spider in the middle, and you

674
00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:04,359
Speaker 3: to baby Daddy's or Daddy's just like and he said

675
00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:06,239
Speaker 3: what I was thinking. So I thought that that was

676
00:35:06,280 --> 00:35:11,640
Speaker 3: that was pretty dope. But yeah, they escape, uh you

677
00:35:11,680 --> 00:35:13,640
Speaker 3: know with the with you know, she using the powers

678
00:35:13,719 --> 00:35:16,040
Speaker 3: kill the floor people, blah blah blah. But they found

679
00:35:16,040 --> 00:35:19,640
Speaker 3: out that Spider got like some organism growing inside.

680
00:35:19,320 --> 00:35:20,480
Speaker 4: Of his body.

681
00:35:21,440 --> 00:35:23,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, and the whole thing is they just want to

682
00:35:23,360 --> 00:35:26,800
Speaker 3: reverse engineering. So that was the whole thing with Spider

683
00:35:26,800 --> 00:35:28,920
Speaker 3: and how he was relevant to those stories. So it

684
00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:32,920
Speaker 3: became all about getting him and Quittrier went back gave

685
00:35:32,960 --> 00:35:36,760
Speaker 3: these motherfucker flame throwers and all kind of fucking guns

686
00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:42,040
Speaker 3: and shit like that, and got turned out and yeah,

687
00:35:42,120 --> 00:35:46,440
Speaker 3: Spider is hype so uh so. Yeah, so Jake surrendered

688
00:35:47,520 --> 00:35:51,360
Speaker 3: because they came back yep, yep and uh and he

689
00:35:51,440 --> 00:35:53,279
Speaker 3: told her said, don't man, she wanted to shoot that

690
00:35:53,360 --> 00:35:56,200
Speaker 3: damn bow and arrow so bad. But they were talking

691
00:35:56,280 --> 00:36:01,960
Speaker 3: cash ship bro, and he said Kurtis said, man, like

692
00:36:02,040 --> 00:36:02,920
Speaker 3: some ship on fire.

693
00:36:04,239 --> 00:36:07,200
Speaker 2: He was like, you think we bullshit burn this motherfucker up?

694
00:36:09,080 --> 00:36:10,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, he live all that ship on fire and they

695
00:36:10,760 --> 00:36:15,239
Speaker 3: went back to the base. Yeah. I think at this

696
00:36:15,320 --> 00:36:20,600
Speaker 3: point that's when she she came back to the rescuing bro. Yeah,

697
00:36:20,800 --> 00:36:22,640
Speaker 3: that was that was pretty tight. I like that.

698
00:36:22,920 --> 00:36:25,879
Speaker 2: Again, the action scenes in this movie are really good.

699
00:36:25,880 --> 00:36:27,440
Speaker 2: That's the only thing that kept me awake. Can I

700
00:36:27,480 --> 00:36:32,160
Speaker 2: fell asleep twice? Ain't miss a beating this movie, and

701
00:36:32,320 --> 00:36:34,200
Speaker 2: the action scenes was the one that keep me up.

702
00:36:34,200 --> 00:36:39,880
Speaker 2: But like the the relationship dynamics were interesting from the

703
00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:46,200
Speaker 2: sense of like again, I really loved how Jake was

704
00:36:46,200 --> 00:36:48,839
Speaker 2: trying to not he was trying to deny that what

705
00:36:48,880 --> 00:36:53,160
Speaker 2: do they call him? He's supposed to be the tomahawk.

706
00:36:53,200 --> 00:36:55,359
Speaker 2: What's what's the motherfucker? Because he can ride that big

707
00:36:55,360 --> 00:37:00,400
Speaker 2: ass dragon looking thing. Yeah you know what I'm say. Like,

708
00:37:00,560 --> 00:37:02,000
Speaker 2: he was like trying to not. He was like, I'm

709
00:37:02,040 --> 00:37:03,840
Speaker 2: not trying to be the Yeah, I'm not trying to

710
00:37:03,840 --> 00:37:05,919
Speaker 2: be the nigga missed the nigga no more. I'm done

711
00:37:05,920 --> 00:37:08,279
Speaker 2: being missed the nigga. Every time I missed the nigga,

712
00:37:08,280 --> 00:37:15,040
Speaker 2: I always killed and the uh the see the Water

713
00:37:15,120 --> 00:37:17,719
Speaker 2: People was like, nigga, you always missed the nigga. To us,

714
00:37:17,880 --> 00:37:19,560
Speaker 2: like that, that's not something that you could just kind

715
00:37:19,560 --> 00:37:22,759
Speaker 2: of hide away from. Whenever shit hits the fan, We're

716
00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:24,920
Speaker 2: going to look to you for that. So he finally

717
00:37:24,920 --> 00:37:26,560
Speaker 2: embraced it. So like there was a lot of like

718
00:37:26,640 --> 00:37:29,880
Speaker 2: relationship dynamics with hers from externally or internally that were interesting,

719
00:37:32,080 --> 00:37:36,360
Speaker 2: and I think that within this movie it could have

720
00:37:36,400 --> 00:37:40,080
Speaker 2: been really really well done if they just again like

721
00:37:40,120 --> 00:37:41,880
Speaker 2: I mentioned earlier, like if they just kind of just

722
00:37:42,000 --> 00:37:44,359
Speaker 2: lean into it and like see like the worst case

723
00:37:44,400 --> 00:37:47,960
Speaker 2: scenario of what of Jake denying that versus and also

724
00:37:48,040 --> 00:37:50,759
Speaker 2: seeing him you know, redeem himself at the end. But

725
00:37:50,920 --> 00:37:53,400
Speaker 2: to me, it was just like again, the fight scenes

726
00:37:53,400 --> 00:37:55,680
Speaker 2: were great, but they were just like meaningless because we

727
00:37:55,680 --> 00:37:59,640
Speaker 2: didn't really move forward, like what I don't know, Uh, Jay,

728
00:38:00,239 --> 00:38:01,839
Speaker 2: let me know if I miss anything As far as

729
00:38:01,880 --> 00:38:04,760
Speaker 2: what do we gain from all this outside of Spider

730
00:38:04,800 --> 00:38:06,960
Speaker 2: being able to breathe, well.

731
00:38:07,040 --> 00:38:13,799
Speaker 3: You know, that's it, like, because they didn't really do

732
00:38:13,960 --> 00:38:18,920
Speaker 3: much like Spider and what is inside him can definitely

733
00:38:18,960 --> 00:38:21,279
Speaker 3: help them out a lot because they cannot breathe the air.

734
00:38:21,480 --> 00:38:25,000
Speaker 3: But after this movie was over them all of them

735
00:38:25,000 --> 00:38:28,080
Speaker 3: were wiped out, So I don't know what they're gonna

736
00:38:28,120 --> 00:38:31,439
Speaker 3: do in four. And the one guy that helped them

737
00:38:31,560 --> 00:38:36,200
Speaker 3: helped the Jake the escape. Did we ever see him

738
00:38:36,239 --> 00:38:38,879
Speaker 3: the scientist that had a change of heart that used

739
00:38:38,920 --> 00:38:40,600
Speaker 3: the bulldozer? Did we ever see him the rest of

740
00:38:40,600 --> 00:38:41,480
Speaker 3: the movie. Nah?

741
00:38:41,560 --> 00:38:45,200
Speaker 1: Once he dipped off that that was it. That was

742
00:38:45,239 --> 00:38:47,120
Speaker 1: basically he disappeared.

743
00:38:47,400 --> 00:38:50,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, and we still got the assholes still around

744
00:38:50,239 --> 00:38:51,359
Speaker 3: this mother Gul lost one arm.

745
00:38:51,400 --> 00:38:55,480
Speaker 2: He's still trying to speaking of that, What did y'all

746
00:38:55,480 --> 00:38:57,480
Speaker 2: think about the well Beings?

747
00:38:59,640 --> 00:39:01,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, you had a lot of well, I won't to

748
00:39:01,600 --> 00:39:04,120
Speaker 3: say a lot of I think you mentioned that Jake embraced,

749
00:39:04,640 --> 00:39:08,120
Speaker 3: you know, being the guy. Uh the Tokens were definitely

750
00:39:08,160 --> 00:39:12,799
Speaker 3: not trying to fight at all, but they had to

751
00:39:12,960 --> 00:39:15,200
Speaker 3: change the harbor they were standing on business because uh

752
00:39:15,880 --> 00:39:21,160
Speaker 3: Piacon was the only one that really was about that

753
00:39:21,160 --> 00:39:24,600
Speaker 3: that that ship was taking out. He was still taking

754
00:39:24,600 --> 00:39:25,520
Speaker 3: out motherfuckers. Bro.

755
00:39:26,040 --> 00:39:33,000
Speaker 2: I don't know none of these names. I was on

756
00:39:33,120 --> 00:39:37,840
Speaker 2: calling from Pearl and say like Pearl kicking.

757
00:39:37,640 --> 00:39:40,799
Speaker 4: Chew Bro jaking the blues man.

758
00:39:42,280 --> 00:39:47,080
Speaker 2: My thame is, how did these get those rings?

759
00:39:47,600 --> 00:39:52,680
Speaker 3: I don't know. I assume the water people have to

760
00:39:52,680 --> 00:39:55,640
Speaker 3: put them on. How they lifted, I don't know. But

761
00:39:56,280 --> 00:39:58,480
Speaker 3: the motherfucker was talking a lot of ship though, because

762
00:39:58,520 --> 00:39:59,680
Speaker 3: it was there was.

763
00:39:59,640 --> 00:40:02,200
Speaker 2: Some punk cast niggas. They was the one saying like this,

764
00:40:02,280 --> 00:40:05,040
Speaker 2: we ain't trying to fight. We passed fighting, you know,

765
00:40:05,680 --> 00:40:12,480
Speaker 2: Jaz said, we beyond kneeling kids.

766
00:40:12,760 --> 00:40:15,120
Speaker 3: They were talking ship to pire kind. It was like, nah,

767
00:40:15,160 --> 00:40:17,080
Speaker 3: we told him, don't gonna sucking them people. He's going

768
00:40:17,080 --> 00:40:19,600
Speaker 3: to fucking them people. So we're kicking him out. You

769
00:40:19,800 --> 00:40:23,279
Speaker 3: out the gang, bro, Just get the funk out of here.

770
00:40:23,400 --> 00:40:27,279
Speaker 3: And that's why uh Lord went to go find him

771
00:40:27,320 --> 00:40:28,920
Speaker 3: and the other bad ass kids.

772
00:40:29,400 --> 00:40:31,000
Speaker 2: He was like, I lost one brother, I'm not gonna

773
00:40:31,040 --> 00:40:31,759
Speaker 2: lose another one.

774
00:40:31,840 --> 00:40:33,240
Speaker 3: But they ain't your brother bro.

775
00:40:34,360 --> 00:40:42,279
Speaker 2: To us, brother man ain't nowhere. Hey, we seen some

776
00:40:42,520 --> 00:40:45,040
Speaker 2: speaking of cosmic show. We see cosmy kids and be

777
00:40:45,160 --> 00:40:49,400
Speaker 2: like y'all kind of y'all getting loose with y'all being siblings.

778
00:40:49,680 --> 00:40:52,880
Speaker 2: We'll let it go. This one don't make no damn sense.

779
00:40:53,520 --> 00:40:54,439
Speaker 4: Now that's his brother.

780
00:40:54,520 --> 00:40:56,279
Speaker 1: Man, It made since in the last film Man like

781
00:40:56,280 --> 00:40:58,719
Speaker 1: they both cast like he connected with him, like that

782
00:40:58,840 --> 00:41:01,080
Speaker 1: made sense for him to feel like, yeah, bro, like

783
00:41:01,400 --> 00:41:04,120
Speaker 1: y'all getting rid of him for protecting himself Like that's

784
00:41:04,239 --> 00:41:05,360
Speaker 1: that ain't.

785
00:41:05,600 --> 00:41:08,040
Speaker 2: N that's why. Cause the cause with the fucked up

786
00:41:08,080 --> 00:41:12,080
Speaker 2: walk essentially the one who got half his face miss

787
00:41:12,080 --> 00:41:15,719
Speaker 2: and he came back like niggas, Look what they did

788
00:41:15,800 --> 00:41:23,160
Speaker 2: to me. I can't even straight up like he want

789
00:41:23,200 --> 00:41:25,360
Speaker 2: the niggas. You know he wanted the niggas. Jay, I know,

790
00:41:25,360 --> 00:41:26,880
Speaker 2: you see the biggas who always want to show off

791
00:41:26,920 --> 00:41:29,399
Speaker 2: their scars, and we're like, nigga, go away. We just

792
00:41:29,600 --> 00:41:31,400
Speaker 2: we don't need to see none of that ship. He

793
00:41:31,520 --> 00:41:33,640
Speaker 2: kept putting this nasty ass scar on the screen. I

794
00:41:33,680 --> 00:41:34,720
Speaker 2: ain't want to see that ship.

795
00:41:35,440 --> 00:41:37,719
Speaker 3: And they probably hated it too, because that probably gave

796
00:41:37,760 --> 00:41:39,880
Speaker 3: him a reason to fight. Even still, they were like,

797
00:41:39,920 --> 00:41:43,720
Speaker 3: all right, well, well we'll holler back y'all in a second.

798
00:41:43,719 --> 00:41:46,239
Speaker 3: We're gonna go talk about it, and they never gave

799
00:41:46,280 --> 00:41:48,839
Speaker 3: a firm answer because the kids were like, man, y'all

800
00:41:48,840 --> 00:41:50,799
Speaker 3: never listen to me. Y'all, don't do ship. I'm trying

801
00:41:50,840 --> 00:41:54,120
Speaker 3: to tell y'all what's going on, and finally stood.

802
00:41:53,920 --> 00:41:56,800
Speaker 2: Up bad present. They're trying to say it can I

803
00:41:56,840 --> 00:41:58,800
Speaker 2: don't want none of my kids talking in no in

804
00:41:58,880 --> 00:42:01,520
Speaker 2: no big meeting like that. Bro, Ya ain't saying shit.

805
00:42:04,080 --> 00:42:06,319
Speaker 2: They interrupted the medi and jay all types of shit

806
00:42:06,640 --> 00:42:10,279
Speaker 2: for what for some audience. It ain't gonna change the

807
00:42:10,600 --> 00:42:12,399
Speaker 2: thing we all knew we had to fight. Figga, We're

808
00:42:12,400 --> 00:42:14,920
Speaker 2: just trying to gather up everybody. Y'all. Ain't saying nothing new.

809
00:42:17,160 --> 00:42:20,000
Speaker 1: Jake is still sucked up for his parenting though. That's

810
00:42:20,040 --> 00:42:22,200
Speaker 1: one thing I still hate it. Like from the original

811
00:42:22,480 --> 00:42:23,280
Speaker 1: you would think.

812
00:42:23,640 --> 00:42:25,239
Speaker 4: That so that's a beat. Then I felt like just

813
00:42:25,239 --> 00:42:26,160
Speaker 4: got dropped to the side.

814
00:42:26,280 --> 00:42:29,440
Speaker 1: Like at the end, Jake does the I See You

815
00:42:29,600 --> 00:42:33,000
Speaker 1: to the Sun that still alive after the first time dies,

816
00:42:33,600 --> 00:42:37,160
Speaker 1: and so for him to do that and then in

817
00:42:37,200 --> 00:42:38,799
Speaker 1: the beginning of this and throughout most of the film

818
00:42:38,880 --> 00:42:40,160
Speaker 1: treat that same song like shit.

819
00:42:41,120 --> 00:42:45,440
Speaker 2: It's like it was anger, bro, That's what he He

820
00:42:45,480 --> 00:42:47,520
Speaker 2: said the same thing to his wife. He was like

821
00:42:47,960 --> 00:42:51,560
Speaker 2: this anger is like it's controlling how she felt about

822
00:42:51,560 --> 00:42:54,359
Speaker 2: the white people and his anger for like not being

823
00:42:54,360 --> 00:42:57,480
Speaker 2: able to protect his family. He had to put that somewhere.

824
00:42:57,480 --> 00:42:58,920
Speaker 2: He put it on the Sun because he was like, bro,

825
00:42:59,160 --> 00:43:01,160
Speaker 2: I told y'all not to do this ship. You winded

826
00:43:01,200 --> 00:43:02,919
Speaker 2: up doing the ship. Your brother went to go save

827
00:43:03,000 --> 00:43:05,759
Speaker 2: you and then he died in that process. Ak when

828
00:43:05,800 --> 00:43:07,719
Speaker 2: he told him like that, Nigga would still be here

829
00:43:07,719 --> 00:43:11,480
Speaker 2: if it wasn't that he stopped. He stopped. Even the

830
00:43:11,520 --> 00:43:13,319
Speaker 2: son was like, don't play me for that.

831
00:43:14,520 --> 00:43:19,080
Speaker 4: But Nick, I get your but the you that for.

832
00:43:19,000 --> 00:43:25,600
Speaker 2: A minute, because you remember the Sun tried to do something nice.

833
00:43:25,640 --> 00:43:26,920
Speaker 2: It was like, yeah, I want to go out on

834
00:43:26,920 --> 00:43:28,560
Speaker 2: the hunt with you. I want to. I got my gun.

835
00:43:28,600 --> 00:43:30,920
Speaker 2: He was like, where is your cons that nigga, go

836
00:43:31,000 --> 00:43:33,960
Speaker 2: get your CONSI your goofy ass want to come on

837
00:43:34,000 --> 00:43:37,040
Speaker 2: his um, but you'll can't even communicate with you sit

838
00:43:37,120 --> 00:43:37,800
Speaker 2: your asspect.

839
00:43:38,400 --> 00:43:40,680
Speaker 1: Yeah you got a point that, yes, anger and like

840
00:43:40,719 --> 00:43:43,719
Speaker 1: his grief. But they dropped that ship. Like you said,

841
00:43:43,719 --> 00:43:45,640
Speaker 1: I need a halfway through the movie, like it went

842
00:43:45,719 --> 00:43:48,040
Speaker 1: back to being in a venture film as compared to

843
00:43:48,160 --> 00:43:51,240
Speaker 1: dealing with this ship. You introduced us to like let's

844
00:43:51,280 --> 00:43:54,040
Speaker 1: stay here and let's let's like build on this ship

845
00:43:54,080 --> 00:43:57,320
Speaker 1: and just went back to the same running around, get caught,

846
00:43:57,480 --> 00:43:59,640
Speaker 1: get get loose, let me fight again. Like it's like, bro,

847
00:44:00,120 --> 00:44:02,880
Speaker 1: done this shit many times in Avatar. Let's stick to

848
00:44:03,239 --> 00:44:05,240
Speaker 1: what you started this these.

849
00:44:05,080 --> 00:44:07,360
Speaker 4: Themes off with in the beginning of the film.

850
00:44:07,400 --> 00:44:09,359
Speaker 2: But maybe that's what they save him for four and five.

851
00:44:10,040 --> 00:44:11,480
Speaker 2: You can't solve all the problems and.

852
00:44:12,520 --> 00:44:14,120
Speaker 4: It just put it in the second one. We need

853
00:44:14,160 --> 00:44:15,600
Speaker 4: a whole second half of this shit.

854
00:44:15,680 --> 00:44:22,080
Speaker 3: Then, were you guys surprised that Queen ash went along

855
00:44:22,120 --> 00:44:24,360
Speaker 3: with Curtas.

856
00:44:26,120 --> 00:44:28,680
Speaker 2: I'm not surprised because because of the backstory of like

857
00:44:29,160 --> 00:44:31,759
Speaker 2: when you find out that like they all worship the

858
00:44:31,800 --> 00:44:33,759
Speaker 2: same god and then they felt like the god betrayed them.

859
00:44:33,800 --> 00:44:35,879
Speaker 2: I thought that was a good angle that they could

860
00:44:35,880 --> 00:44:39,360
Speaker 2: have leaned heavily into, like as far as like we're

861
00:44:39,400 --> 00:44:42,520
Speaker 2: godless now we move like it too, like we like

862
00:44:42,960 --> 00:44:44,960
Speaker 2: and we also at the end of the day, cam'pt

863
00:44:45,000 --> 00:44:48,120
Speaker 2: fend for ourselves, Like we can't survive by ourselves. We

864
00:44:48,160 --> 00:44:50,640
Speaker 2: need to collapse. We need to either steal from somebody

865
00:44:50,760 --> 00:44:54,920
Speaker 2: or have somebody use us. Essentially, that's what Stephen Lane's

866
00:44:54,960 --> 00:44:58,880
Speaker 2: character did, was use us to attack them. But I

867
00:44:58,880 --> 00:45:01,200
Speaker 2: felt like they were not justified, but I understood their

868
00:45:01,280 --> 00:45:05,799
Speaker 2: reasoning for collaborations because it's like we don't we look

869
00:45:05,840 --> 00:45:07,680
Speaker 2: at them as our ultimate enemy too, you know what

870
00:45:07,719 --> 00:45:09,880
Speaker 2: I'm saying. They they're the good guys for what they

871
00:45:09,920 --> 00:45:12,040
Speaker 2: believe in. And I really thought that was Again, this

872
00:45:12,120 --> 00:45:15,839
Speaker 2: movie is very based on faith and religion, and I

873
00:45:15,880 --> 00:45:18,520
Speaker 2: really liked that aspect of like what the ask people from.

874
00:45:19,719 --> 00:45:22,120
Speaker 1: They're not godless person because they create they make her

875
00:45:22,320 --> 00:45:24,640
Speaker 1: a deity at that point, because remember in the beginning

876
00:45:24,880 --> 00:45:28,319
Speaker 1: I called onto that when they did the raid and

877
00:45:28,400 --> 00:45:30,879
Speaker 1: Old Boy sacrificed themselves, Like she's pray all that shit

878
00:45:30,920 --> 00:45:32,359
Speaker 1: and I ain't gonnat that shit was tough.

879
00:45:32,560 --> 00:45:33,560
Speaker 4: She's pray all that shit.

880
00:45:33,400 --> 00:45:36,160
Speaker 1: On him and he basically kama COSI that that that

881
00:45:36,480 --> 00:45:41,160
Speaker 1: ship or whatever, and she knows that. That's why she

882
00:45:41,160 --> 00:45:42,960
Speaker 1: she does it with the drugs and all that, Like

883
00:45:43,040 --> 00:45:45,520
Speaker 1: she's the d T for them now, Like I feel

884
00:45:45,520 --> 00:45:48,279
Speaker 1: like she's just abusing power. It ain't even that they

885
00:45:48,320 --> 00:45:51,399
Speaker 1: don't completely believe. I think there's I think that there's

886
00:45:51,400 --> 00:45:53,120
Speaker 1: a piece of it where they just believe in her,

887
00:45:53,640 --> 00:45:55,040
Speaker 1: like she's the one with the power.

888
00:45:55,120 --> 00:45:57,160
Speaker 4: She has. They probably that's what I'm saying.

889
00:45:57,160 --> 00:45:58,919
Speaker 1: There's so many other things we could have got from

890
00:45:58,960 --> 00:46:01,400
Speaker 1: that that side of the story, and they could have

891
00:46:01,480 --> 00:46:05,279
Speaker 1: dived into and like give us, given us, because when

892
00:46:05,320 --> 00:46:06,920
Speaker 1: she gave him that spice and they was doing the

893
00:46:07,000 --> 00:46:09,680
Speaker 1: rituals and dancing and but but that first time them

894
00:46:09,719 --> 00:46:10,680
Speaker 1: niggas took that ship.

895
00:46:10,520 --> 00:46:12,640
Speaker 4: And she linked up to him and he shook and

896
00:46:12,719 --> 00:46:13,640
Speaker 4: went paralyzed.

897
00:46:14,920 --> 00:46:18,320
Speaker 2: I know what that. I know what that movement feel

898
00:46:18,400 --> 00:46:24,719
Speaker 2: like saying, but it's something, but you feel you got something,

899
00:46:25,040 --> 00:46:27,360
Speaker 2: got something for the first time you ain't never had before.

900
00:46:28,000 --> 00:46:30,359
Speaker 4: But even then, i'd have been at that party before

901
00:46:30,360 --> 00:46:32,160
Speaker 4: when they were dancing around and know somebody in the

902
00:46:32,200 --> 00:46:34,560
Speaker 4: corner just shook, like, oh yeah, that nigga feeling good

903
00:46:34,560 --> 00:46:35,040
Speaker 4: over there.

904
00:46:35,640 --> 00:46:39,239
Speaker 1: But nah, there's a lot of things there. And if

905
00:46:39,280 --> 00:46:40,960
Speaker 1: you do it in four and five, it's cool. But

906
00:46:41,080 --> 00:46:45,280
Speaker 1: you brought me back to three to not give me enough.

907
00:46:45,880 --> 00:46:49,680
Speaker 1: And so her story was compelling because I understand that,

908
00:46:49,800 --> 00:46:51,719
Speaker 1: like you sitting here praying and praying and praying and

909
00:46:51,719 --> 00:46:54,319
Speaker 1: praying and nothing changed, So funk all that like it

910
00:46:54,320 --> 00:46:55,239
Speaker 1: ain't it ain't real.

911
00:46:56,200 --> 00:47:01,120
Speaker 3: But nah, yeah, I feel like like she she she

912
00:47:01,160 --> 00:47:04,280
Speaker 3: could have been a really good villain for the whole movie,

913
00:47:04,520 --> 00:47:08,240
Speaker 3: and but as soon as she got with uh Kercht,

914
00:47:08,360 --> 00:47:12,040
Speaker 3: she got reduced to basically like not a not a

915
00:47:12,080 --> 00:47:15,040
Speaker 3: side piece, but she was just you know, there to

916
00:47:15,080 --> 00:47:19,360
Speaker 3: serve him. And you were like, you ruled all that ship,

917
00:47:19,560 --> 00:47:22,640
Speaker 3: You were the top dog. You could have killed that motherfucker,

918
00:47:22,680 --> 00:47:25,440
Speaker 3: took all of his weapons and ship. But as soon

919
00:47:25,480 --> 00:47:27,600
Speaker 3: as you got with him, and you know, and and

920
00:47:27,680 --> 00:47:30,719
Speaker 3: it was just it and you were just there. So

921
00:47:30,800 --> 00:47:34,719
Speaker 3: I felt like they definitely didn't use her in the

922
00:47:34,800 --> 00:47:36,560
Speaker 3: right way because she could have been a really good

923
00:47:36,600 --> 00:47:39,040
Speaker 3: villain because, like you guys, I was. I was waiting

924
00:47:39,080 --> 00:47:42,839
Speaker 3: for that showdown between her and the Teary because I'm like, oh,

925
00:47:42,880 --> 00:47:46,600
Speaker 3: she gonna get some payback for her, and it didn't happen,

926
00:47:47,239 --> 00:47:49,320
Speaker 3: and I felt I felt cheated from that.

927
00:47:49,840 --> 00:47:53,280
Speaker 2: Especially when they where they had Sigourney Weaver's young old

928
00:47:53,320 --> 00:47:56,399
Speaker 2: ass link up with her and just scare her from

929
00:47:56,440 --> 00:47:58,640
Speaker 2: that and just call her a bitch and just it

930
00:47:58,800 --> 00:48:01,319
Speaker 2: was just like this is week, like you got all

931
00:48:01,400 --> 00:48:03,640
Speaker 2: like you did all again. My main thing is you

932
00:48:03,719 --> 00:48:07,680
Speaker 2: got me here for three plus hours, bro, You like

933
00:48:08,280 --> 00:48:11,279
Speaker 2: justify that first and foremost, you know what I mean.

934
00:48:12,280 --> 00:48:14,439
Speaker 1: And then they made her a centerpiece in the promotion too,

935
00:48:14,640 --> 00:48:17,800
Speaker 1: like she in the big ass middle of the movie

936
00:48:17,800 --> 00:48:20,480
Speaker 1: poster and the trailers they showing the rituals and stuff

937
00:48:20,480 --> 00:48:22,400
Speaker 1: that she's doing, like she was supposed to be a

938
00:48:22,480 --> 00:48:25,960
Speaker 1: key figure, and she was only that for maybe twenty

939
00:48:26,000 --> 00:48:28,960
Speaker 1: five percent of the film and it just disappeared like

940
00:48:29,040 --> 00:48:29,960
Speaker 1: halfway through.

941
00:48:29,760 --> 00:48:39,320
Speaker 3: So disappointing. Kirie, that's Segourney Weaver's character. Mhm, she found

942
00:48:39,320 --> 00:48:40,120
Speaker 3: out she was a clone?

943
00:48:40,960 --> 00:48:44,719
Speaker 2: Why did you know that exactly? You synced up to

944
00:48:44,760 --> 00:48:47,359
Speaker 2: the tree all this time. That motherfucker would the best

945
00:48:47,360 --> 00:48:49,640
Speaker 2: st that nigga, You ain't real, all right.

946
00:48:51,239 --> 00:48:53,080
Speaker 1: But she was born and then you gotta remember that

947
00:48:53,200 --> 00:48:57,000
Speaker 1: she was born from the avatar. So they always just

948
00:48:57,000 --> 00:48:59,880
Speaker 1: told her her parents died or whatever.

949
00:49:00,480 --> 00:49:01,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think she.

950
00:49:01,320 --> 00:49:04,759
Speaker 1: Has no father and so well no, no, she thought

951
00:49:04,800 --> 00:49:07,600
Speaker 1: Jake was her father in it because they didn't hear Yeah, yeah, yeah,

952
00:49:07,640 --> 00:49:09,760
Speaker 1: So she didn't know, like she didn't. She didn't obviously

953
00:49:09,760 --> 00:49:13,880
Speaker 1: didn't know that she wasn't not real, you know what

954
00:49:13,920 --> 00:49:16,240
Speaker 1: I'm saying, Like she just thought maybe she was different

955
00:49:16,280 --> 00:49:20,640
Speaker 1: because Jake's her dad, and Jake's not a full full nobby,

956
00:49:20,840 --> 00:49:23,920
Speaker 1: so I could understand completely why she was confused. Well,

957
00:49:23,960 --> 00:49:25,560
Speaker 1: my she ain't working like everybody else.

958
00:49:25,840 --> 00:49:27,799
Speaker 3: Yeah, because her mom didn't want her. Her mom didn't want

959
00:49:27,840 --> 00:49:31,600
Speaker 3: her at all, you know. So she took it. She

960
00:49:31,640 --> 00:49:35,520
Speaker 3: took well yeah, but still the god mama she but

961
00:49:35,560 --> 00:49:37,279
Speaker 3: she took it a stride though. She was like, oh,

962
00:49:37,320 --> 00:49:39,680
Speaker 3: I'm a clone for real? Okay, cool?

963
00:49:39,960 --> 00:49:42,080
Speaker 2: Now she was angry at fir she was. She was

964
00:49:42,400 --> 00:49:44,239
Speaker 2: she was like, this is why I've been feeling weird

965
00:49:44,280 --> 00:49:46,000
Speaker 2: and feeling like a freak. Y'a could have been told

966
00:49:46,000 --> 00:49:46,439
Speaker 2: me this ship.

967
00:49:48,080 --> 00:49:50,760
Speaker 3: It didn't last long. Shock.

968
00:49:52,360 --> 00:49:54,319
Speaker 2: That's like no kid dealing with kids for too long.

969
00:49:54,560 --> 00:49:58,560
Speaker 2: I know, I know when they pouting and they ain't real,

970
00:50:01,600 --> 00:50:03,640
Speaker 2: But having a gonna read as this child just doesn't

971
00:50:03,640 --> 00:50:04,840
Speaker 2: work for this It's trash.

972
00:50:05,880 --> 00:50:06,560
Speaker 4: Doesn't work. Bro.

973
00:50:06,680 --> 00:50:08,680
Speaker 1: You could have you could have did something else. It

974
00:50:08,719 --> 00:50:12,120
Speaker 1: just doesn't work with her trying to be a kid.

975
00:50:12,480 --> 00:50:13,480
Speaker 1: It doesn't work at all.

976
00:50:13,840 --> 00:50:16,160
Speaker 3: And you know, and I think there and maybe in

977
00:50:16,239 --> 00:50:19,719
Speaker 3: four we'll get more exploration into like her powers and

978
00:50:20,000 --> 00:50:23,320
Speaker 3: her ability to have some sort of weird tantric sets

979
00:50:23,480 --> 00:50:28,360
Speaker 3: with the earth and have that guy just basically enveloped

980
00:50:28,400 --> 00:50:32,759
Speaker 3: by this organism and changed him into basically Earth a

981
00:50:33,160 --> 00:50:36,359
Speaker 3: planet breathing. Now, like how does all that work? She's

982
00:50:37,320 --> 00:50:40,080
Speaker 3: animating flowers and all kinds of shit, like, you know,

983
00:50:40,480 --> 00:50:43,440
Speaker 3: like we I would like to know more about her

984
00:50:43,520 --> 00:50:46,399
Speaker 3: abilities and what she can do, because she she would

985
00:50:46,400 --> 00:50:51,600
Speaker 3: try to use them and ship, but she wasn't really

986
00:50:51,760 --> 00:50:54,040
Speaker 3: good at it, even at the end when we get

987
00:50:54,080 --> 00:50:56,240
Speaker 3: to the big fight, because it was good seeing Turok

988
00:50:56,320 --> 00:50:58,719
Speaker 3: come back on board because he was fucking shit up.

989
00:50:58,960 --> 00:51:01,399
Speaker 3: But I did the for me. The peak of this movie,

990
00:51:01,440 --> 00:51:04,520
Speaker 3: of course, is the final fight scene because they decided

991
00:51:04,520 --> 00:51:07,239
Speaker 3: to row the ass back up after Sully and them

992
00:51:07,600 --> 00:51:11,480
Speaker 3: escaped because they were the Tolkiens were having their their

993
00:51:11,719 --> 00:51:15,520
Speaker 3: ritual and they had that magnetic core thing going around,

994
00:51:15,640 --> 00:51:19,320
Speaker 3: so they were about to go, man, yeah that that

995
00:51:19,480 --> 00:51:21,920
Speaker 3: that be the core thing that that Maneta Tornado. That

996
00:51:21,960 --> 00:51:22,640
Speaker 3: ship was dope.

997
00:51:22,719 --> 00:51:25,000
Speaker 4: And then when it caught shipping, the fire went around

998
00:51:25,080 --> 00:51:26,600
Speaker 4: and oh yeah that.

999
00:51:26,960 --> 00:51:29,520
Speaker 3: Was yeah, yeah, this one. I was like, man, James,

1000
00:51:29,680 --> 00:51:36,080
Speaker 3: James Cameron got yeah, he was naeling it. But but

1001
00:51:36,200 --> 00:51:39,160
Speaker 3: they were definitely well s. They damned there won the fight,

1002
00:51:39,400 --> 00:51:42,520
Speaker 3: and then the Tolkens came through and we're fucking ship up,

1003
00:51:43,040 --> 00:51:45,120
Speaker 3: jumping and landing on the planes and ship like that.

1004
00:51:45,760 --> 00:51:47,799
Speaker 3: The General was like, get us out of here.

1005
00:51:50,320 --> 00:51:53,320
Speaker 2: Falco was like she was in the wrong movie, so

1006
00:51:53,680 --> 00:51:58,040
Speaker 2: she thought this was a besiege of Master Command and

1007
00:51:58,120 --> 00:52:01,120
Speaker 2: some ship. She didn't just felt weird for her to

1008
00:52:01,200 --> 00:52:04,839
Speaker 2: be in this movie about aliens and whatever the fuck

1009
00:52:04,880 --> 00:52:08,040
Speaker 2: because she was just stern the whole movie like she was.

1010
00:52:08,160 --> 00:52:10,960
Speaker 2: She didn't give no expressions, no emotions. She was just

1011
00:52:11,080 --> 00:52:13,359
Speaker 2: like General tight ass.

1012
00:52:13,840 --> 00:52:16,360
Speaker 1: Hey Nick when I scientist gave me there and was like,

1013
00:52:16,440 --> 00:52:18,840
Speaker 1: y man, you're gonna disturb the ecosystem, and she's like,

1014
00:52:19,560 --> 00:52:21,440
Speaker 1: we'll take your protests under consideration.

1015
00:52:22,440 --> 00:52:27,200
Speaker 4: Nigga, say my protestation. She didn't give no funs.

1016
00:52:28,440 --> 00:52:30,839
Speaker 2: We didn't care about none of that ship. The best

1017
00:52:30,880 --> 00:52:32,680
Speaker 2: thing she had was when she cutsed up Steve A

1018
00:52:32,800 --> 00:52:35,959
Speaker 2: Lake for U for wearing the in the ball meeting.

1019
00:52:40,000 --> 00:52:44,880
Speaker 2: He was sawty his head to think nobody noticed, like, nigga,

1020
00:52:44,960 --> 00:52:48,680
Speaker 2: you you eight nine feet long till you know to

1021
00:52:48,719 --> 00:52:49,879
Speaker 2: show big ass in the room.

1022
00:52:50,040 --> 00:52:52,399
Speaker 3: Bro. He swore his fit was tight.

1023
00:52:52,600 --> 00:53:04,200
Speaker 1: Bro, like that y'all, y'all dress y'all, and the niggas

1024
00:53:04,239 --> 00:53:08,359
Speaker 1: gonna clown you're in love. You're like, man, that's my baby,

1025
00:53:08,360 --> 00:53:10,319
Speaker 1: I'm gonna let her. I'm leting adjust me one good time.

1026
00:53:10,600 --> 00:53:11,799
Speaker 1: And she dressed your niggas be.

1027
00:53:11,800 --> 00:53:12,640
Speaker 4: Like, what the fuck you?

1028
00:53:15,480 --> 00:53:18,240
Speaker 2: She had him dressed up like in a two tone

1029
00:53:19,160 --> 00:53:20,160
Speaker 2: Jordan three.

1030
00:53:22,360 --> 00:53:22,840
Speaker 4: Fit. Bro.

1031
00:53:23,040 --> 00:53:23,680
Speaker 3: It was weird.

1032
00:53:24,760 --> 00:53:25,600
Speaker 2: That shit was funny.

1033
00:53:26,160 --> 00:53:29,919
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, well they they got kicked off. He left,

1034
00:53:29,960 --> 00:53:33,520
Speaker 3: but but they needed him because he came through. Bro,

1035
00:53:33,680 --> 00:53:37,640
Speaker 3: he can't run that corner he did just bruh, fucking

1036
00:53:37,719 --> 00:53:38,000
Speaker 3: him up.

1037
00:53:38,239 --> 00:53:40,600
Speaker 2: That was the thing too, is like from the first

1038
00:53:40,680 --> 00:53:43,879
Speaker 2: film going so now it's like, if you really care

1039
00:53:43,880 --> 00:53:46,120
Speaker 2: about these disfranchise, you'd be like, I'm attached to the

1040
00:53:46,360 --> 00:53:50,640
Speaker 2: blue people now or just this planet. And they was,

1041
00:53:50,680 --> 00:53:52,520
Speaker 2: like you mentioned, kid, they was taking a lot of

1042
00:53:52,680 --> 00:53:54,879
Speaker 2: like there was a lot of death in here from

1043
00:53:55,160 --> 00:53:58,800
Speaker 2: not humans, but not only do humans, but from the natives.

1044
00:53:59,040 --> 00:54:03,480
Speaker 2: And I just felt I felt that was interesting because

1045
00:54:03,480 --> 00:54:06,960
Speaker 2: they talked about a lot of death. And then when

1046
00:54:07,000 --> 00:54:09,440
Speaker 2: you see all this carnish happened because of war and

1047
00:54:09,520 --> 00:54:11,560
Speaker 2: all that, you just see them people just taking them

1048
00:54:11,719 --> 00:54:14,879
Speaker 2: their people off, one byma and not really being that remorseful.

1049
00:54:15,120 --> 00:54:17,000
Speaker 2: I remember that first film when the people died, they

1050
00:54:17,200 --> 00:54:19,360
Speaker 2: had whole ceremonies and all this shit and other and

1051
00:54:19,440 --> 00:54:21,960
Speaker 2: it felt like niggas just dying battle. We just move on.

1052
00:54:22,239 --> 00:54:25,040
Speaker 2: Like the only time it really got like some real

1053
00:54:25,120 --> 00:54:28,000
Speaker 2: tree stuff is when Sigourney Weaver was trying to connect

1054
00:54:28,560 --> 00:54:31,120
Speaker 2: and but the Wi Fi signal wasn't working and the

1055
00:54:31,160 --> 00:54:33,880
Speaker 2: white boy getting turned into whatever the hell he is now?

1056
00:54:35,760 --> 00:54:40,360
Speaker 3: Yeah you got Yeah, there really wasn't a connection to

1057
00:54:40,520 --> 00:54:46,440
Speaker 3: some of the the water people that died. Two examples,

1058
00:54:46,640 --> 00:54:49,920
Speaker 3: one of the kids walked off and when the tide turned,

1059
00:54:50,600 --> 00:54:53,680
Speaker 3: they were getting killed under the water like shot. And

1060
00:54:53,760 --> 00:54:59,520
Speaker 3: then we had old girl, oh boy's wife, she died

1061
00:54:59,560 --> 00:55:02,360
Speaker 3: and gave birth, and I didn't think they were going

1062
00:55:02,440 --> 00:55:04,279
Speaker 3: to kill her, but it was just like, okay, well

1063
00:55:04,400 --> 00:55:09,880
Speaker 3: she's I felt I felt that she did. Yeah. I

1064
00:55:09,920 --> 00:55:14,600
Speaker 3: felt that her husband just seemed to character at the end.

1065
00:55:15,400 --> 00:55:18,040
Speaker 4: I mean for her to be pregnant and be out

1066
00:55:18,080 --> 00:55:20,719
Speaker 4: there running and ship. Yeah, he ain't care, he ain't

1067
00:55:20,719 --> 00:55:21,080
Speaker 4: cant oh.

1068
00:55:21,080 --> 00:55:23,640
Speaker 1: I would have told him, man, I'm the chief, Like

1069
00:55:24,160 --> 00:55:26,560
Speaker 1: that's not a racist, Like I'm the one to tribe

1070
00:55:26,640 --> 00:55:27,959
Speaker 1: like as.

1071
00:55:35,880 --> 00:55:38,800
Speaker 2: The and the thing is the pregnant woman y'all talking about.

1072
00:55:40,120 --> 00:55:42,560
Speaker 2: I thought she was interesting too because she was not jealous,

1073
00:55:42,600 --> 00:55:44,320
Speaker 2: but she was just wondering like what the fun was

1074
00:55:44,320 --> 00:55:46,800
Speaker 2: going on with Sigourney Weaver that character, because she was like,

1075
00:55:47,040 --> 00:55:48,520
Speaker 2: I've been doing this ship all my life. I ain't

1076
00:55:48,560 --> 00:55:51,440
Speaker 2: never been able to connect to the tree like this

1077
00:55:51,600 --> 00:55:54,480
Speaker 2: bitch did. And she doing all this ship helping humans out.

1078
00:55:54,800 --> 00:55:55,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, she was.

1079
00:55:56,120 --> 00:55:57,200
Speaker 2: She was was.

1080
00:55:57,680 --> 00:56:01,320
Speaker 3: She was definitely hated. She would definitely hate, but especially

1081
00:56:01,320 --> 00:56:03,000
Speaker 3: while she was trying to patch her up, she was like,

1082
00:56:03,680 --> 00:56:07,120
Speaker 3: keep talking, ship and I ain't gonna heal your at all. Yeah,

1083
00:56:07,239 --> 00:56:09,960
Speaker 3: met met Kyeni and something like that.

1084
00:56:11,160 --> 00:56:13,120
Speaker 4: She told her, and don't make me forgetting that you're

1085
00:56:13,160 --> 00:56:15,920
Speaker 4: with child. They just.

1086
00:56:19,400 --> 00:56:20,960
Speaker 2: I was like, all right, let's get let's get on

1087
00:56:21,080 --> 00:56:21,560
Speaker 2: with this show.

1088
00:56:22,160 --> 00:56:25,000
Speaker 3: But yeah, but yeah, they she said, because she was like, yeah,

1089
00:56:25,000 --> 00:56:26,319
Speaker 3: I'm dying. She was like, no, You're gonna be hones.

1090
00:56:26,400 --> 00:56:30,120
Speaker 3: She was like, no, I'm dying, motherfucker. Like baby ship,

1091
00:56:30,160 --> 00:56:32,279
Speaker 3: I'm your doctor ship.

1092
00:56:32,560 --> 00:56:34,360
Speaker 2: Man. That was that was crazy.

1093
00:56:34,440 --> 00:56:35,640
Speaker 3: Man, I was, I was.

1094
00:56:35,719 --> 00:56:40,320
Speaker 2: I did feel sad for her. But but again, like

1095
00:56:40,400 --> 00:56:42,840
Speaker 2: this the third the third act of this movie is

1096
00:56:43,040 --> 00:56:47,120
Speaker 2: really it's exciting, but it's also disappointing because it's like

1097
00:56:47,360 --> 00:56:51,439
Speaker 2: the action scenes are great, especially that scene where Jake

1098
00:56:51,719 --> 00:56:55,160
Speaker 2: on the hot the air balloon looking thing and what

1099
00:56:55,320 --> 00:56:56,640
Speaker 2: he was doing on that motherfucker like.

1100
00:56:56,640 --> 00:56:57,200
Speaker 3: That was dope.

1101
00:56:58,239 --> 00:57:00,680
Speaker 2: But but Howard transitioned to the end of the film

1102
00:57:00,800 --> 00:57:03,040
Speaker 2: was just kind of like it ended on a really

1103
00:57:03,080 --> 00:57:04,440
Speaker 2: flat note in my opinion.

1104
00:57:04,800 --> 00:57:07,919
Speaker 3: Yeah, I felt dissatisfactory, Like seeing them trying to leave.

1105
00:57:08,400 --> 00:57:11,520
Speaker 3: I wish I would have seen what Edie Falco's I

1106
00:57:11,600 --> 00:57:15,600
Speaker 3: forgot her character's name die because you just saw her

1107
00:57:15,640 --> 00:57:17,480
Speaker 3: still on the ship and kind of running away. But

1108
00:57:17,840 --> 00:57:19,800
Speaker 3: I don't know, I felt I wanted to see more

1109
00:57:19,880 --> 00:57:22,800
Speaker 3: of that. But the way the ship was being destroyed

1110
00:57:22,880 --> 00:57:25,880
Speaker 3: and flying up and it became like another threat while

1111
00:57:25,880 --> 00:57:29,280
Speaker 3: they were fighting on rocks, well was really dope. But

1112
00:57:29,920 --> 00:57:31,919
Speaker 3: this is when they were also still on the ship,

1113
00:57:32,040 --> 00:57:35,080
Speaker 3: and that's when, like you said earlier, like we thought

1114
00:57:35,080 --> 00:57:36,600
Speaker 3: we were going to see that fight and we didn't,

1115
00:57:36,840 --> 00:57:38,880
Speaker 3: Like she just came through and connected with it and

1116
00:57:39,000 --> 00:57:43,920
Speaker 3: she just ran off. Yeah, it just felt like what

1117
00:57:44,080 --> 00:57:47,320
Speaker 3: I wanted to see didn't happen. But I thought Sully

1118
00:57:47,480 --> 00:57:52,000
Speaker 3: and Kurtis's fight was was pretty good. You know. I

1119
00:57:52,040 --> 00:57:54,040
Speaker 3: think they just used Spider to stop it because I

1120
00:57:54,040 --> 00:57:56,800
Speaker 3: don't think they really wanted to pick a winner, so

1121
00:57:56,960 --> 00:57:59,480
Speaker 3: they just used him as a way to make it

1122
00:57:59,680 --> 00:58:04,600
Speaker 3: make it neutral. But but having to say Spider, but

1123
00:58:04,720 --> 00:58:08,080
Speaker 3: my thing is Spider, you you you are a fucking human.

1124
00:58:08,240 --> 00:58:10,560
Speaker 3: Why are you out there? You can't do any of

1125
00:58:10,640 --> 00:58:12,760
Speaker 3: the ship and you're taking him a gun?

1126
00:58:13,320 --> 00:58:13,560
Speaker 4: Huh?

1127
00:58:13,960 --> 00:58:17,600
Speaker 3: How do you end U about the love chasing Sally? Bro,

1128
00:58:17,880 --> 00:58:21,439
Speaker 3: you're like a regular ass human, but you can't.

1129
00:58:22,720 --> 00:58:23,760
Speaker 4: He don't feel that way.

1130
00:58:24,240 --> 00:58:28,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, he feels like he's just like that. He may

1131
00:58:28,120 --> 00:58:30,360
Speaker 2: feel at worse, he may feel like he's a little

1132
00:58:30,400 --> 00:58:33,640
Speaker 2: slower based off stature, but outside of that, he's like, Bro,

1133
00:58:33,680 --> 00:58:35,320
Speaker 2: I'm with them, it's my family. I'll do the same.

1134
00:58:36,680 --> 00:58:39,760
Speaker 3: He was struggling to do the crossbow. He was.

1135
00:58:42,280 --> 00:58:42,920
Speaker 2: He almost hit.

1136
00:58:43,480 --> 00:58:46,520
Speaker 4: Bro, load up and hit.

1137
00:58:46,720 --> 00:58:48,160
Speaker 1: He will mess around and hit you before you even

1138
00:58:48,200 --> 00:58:51,120
Speaker 1: finished loading it up. But I like this, I like

1139
00:58:51,200 --> 00:58:53,600
Speaker 1: I like current. I hope he's dead, bro, Like he's

1140
00:58:53,640 --> 00:58:56,040
Speaker 1: not my boy out my homeboy.

1141
00:58:57,240 --> 00:58:58,080
Speaker 4: I really hope he did.

1142
00:58:58,440 --> 00:59:00,320
Speaker 2: So you see a body, that's a That's what they

1143
00:59:00,360 --> 00:59:01,760
Speaker 2: say in the movies. Until you see a body. He

1144
00:59:01,800 --> 00:59:03,920
Speaker 2: ain't did. And in this world, even if he was

1145
00:59:04,040 --> 00:59:05,800
Speaker 2: to die, he could bring him back to.

1146
00:59:06,480 --> 00:59:08,280
Speaker 3: Because it made no sense for it, because he was

1147
00:59:08,680 --> 00:59:10,240
Speaker 3: it made no sense for him to jump off.

1148
00:59:11,480 --> 00:59:13,480
Speaker 2: It did. It did because he was He was like,

1149
00:59:13,520 --> 00:59:14,280
Speaker 2: I'm not about to deal with.

1150
00:59:14,280 --> 00:59:17,200
Speaker 3: You hell like herself though.

1151
00:59:17,720 --> 00:59:20,800
Speaker 1: No, he know Jake's wife is not about to allow

1152
00:59:20,960 --> 00:59:22,920
Speaker 1: him to and that's why he ran off the first time.

1153
00:59:23,400 --> 00:59:23,760
Speaker 2: He can't.

1154
00:59:24,560 --> 00:59:25,560
Speaker 4: They know what he's done.

1155
00:59:25,680 --> 00:59:28,480
Speaker 1: They not gonna allow him to even be You think

1156
00:59:28,520 --> 00:59:32,000
Speaker 1: she hates Spotter, You think she hates Spotter?

1157
00:59:32,320 --> 00:59:34,240
Speaker 4: That nigga's not going on. He gonna ain't gonna last

1158
00:59:34,280 --> 00:59:38,240
Speaker 4: fifteen seconds trying her, Bro, I didn't even think about that. Yeah,

1159
00:59:38,560 --> 00:59:39,600
Speaker 4: he knew it was up.

1160
00:59:40,280 --> 00:59:43,120
Speaker 3: Well, it seemed like Sully had. Sully was more willing

1161
00:59:43,240 --> 00:59:45,480
Speaker 3: to listen because Sully kept trying to convince It was like, hey, bro,

1162
00:59:45,600 --> 00:59:47,160
Speaker 3: you can look got new eyes now.

1163
00:59:47,200 --> 00:59:51,240
Speaker 4: Can can? It ain't about what Sully would have said,

1164
00:59:51,240 --> 00:59:54,600
Speaker 4: because Sally been saying a lot about the spot. Ain't Sully?

1165
00:59:54,720 --> 00:59:55,040
Speaker 3: No too.

1166
00:59:55,640 --> 00:59:58,920
Speaker 2: Sully don't really ship. They only call him up when

1167
00:59:59,000 --> 01:00:01,320
Speaker 2: like he one of the niggas, Like you call him

1168
01:00:01,360 --> 01:00:03,000
Speaker 2: like if you were in trouble, you need somebody to

1169
01:00:03,040 --> 01:00:05,880
Speaker 2: fight with you. That's what Sully is to that tribe.

1170
01:00:05,960 --> 01:00:08,520
Speaker 2: That's the only value he really breathed. Outside of that,

1171
01:00:08,640 --> 01:00:11,400
Speaker 2: he's outside of that. He's really he's still announceide, he's

1172
01:00:11,400 --> 01:00:12,840
Speaker 2: still be leaning on he learned on the job.

1173
01:00:12,920 --> 01:00:16,680
Speaker 3: Like, uh, Sigourney Weaver, is they really just wanted to

1174
01:00:16,760 --> 01:00:21,040
Speaker 3: fight because the first speak up? Yeah, yeah, yeah, he

1175
01:00:21,080 --> 01:00:23,560
Speaker 3: don't be saying she because I think about like him

1176
01:00:23,640 --> 01:00:27,040
Speaker 3: in this movie. She made him get rid of Spider,

1177
01:00:28,040 --> 01:00:31,280
Speaker 3: his kids made the whole family. It made him take

1178
01:00:31,320 --> 01:00:35,280
Speaker 3: the whole family and they got ambushed. His wife convinced

1179
01:00:35,320 --> 01:00:38,320
Speaker 3: him to kill the kid, and then his wife convince

1180
01:00:38,440 --> 01:00:40,560
Speaker 3: kills Spider, and then his wife convinced him to let

1181
01:00:40,600 --> 01:00:43,320
Speaker 3: Spider live when he came through it.

1182
01:00:43,560 --> 01:00:46,040
Speaker 2: Can I always say women have the right and the

1183
01:00:46,120 --> 01:00:50,680
Speaker 2: audacity to change their mind at any given time. Two

1184
01:00:50,760 --> 01:00:52,919
Speaker 2: hours two hours of this movie, she was like, fuck

1185
01:00:52,960 --> 01:00:55,520
Speaker 2: that nigga. In the last thirty minute forty five minutes,

1186
01:00:55,560 --> 01:00:57,440
Speaker 2: she was like, nah, save him. She's like, he saved

1187
01:00:57,480 --> 01:01:02,080
Speaker 2: your life, Like, who gives a fuck? So he's gonna

1188
01:01:02,080 --> 01:01:03,840
Speaker 2: be the end of all of us. He is going

1189
01:01:03,920 --> 01:01:06,280
Speaker 2: to be a huge That's what I was saying, Like

1190
01:01:06,400 --> 01:01:09,160
Speaker 2: I was, it's crazy that you said that. Cameron didn't

1191
01:01:09,240 --> 01:01:11,960
Speaker 2: want I was trying to write him out. It's like

1192
01:01:12,040 --> 01:01:13,840
Speaker 2: he did the complete opposite it's not even like he

1193
01:01:13,880 --> 01:01:16,440
Speaker 2: put him on the bench or anything, like Old Spider

1194
01:01:16,640 --> 01:01:19,920
Speaker 2: is just somewhere around here or whatever, and he'll come back,

1195
01:01:20,040 --> 01:01:23,000
Speaker 2: you know, later on. He's now going to be a

1196
01:01:23,080 --> 01:01:26,000
Speaker 2: focal point in the last two movies because he's gonna

1197
01:01:26,040 --> 01:01:29,120
Speaker 2: get older, he's gonna get more ingrained with the culture

1198
01:01:30,040 --> 01:01:33,280
Speaker 2: now that he can get tapped in, and the humans

1199
01:01:33,280 --> 01:01:35,120
Speaker 2: are gonna notice, like there's one human out there who

1200
01:01:35,160 --> 01:01:36,920
Speaker 2: can breathe with them, live with him, do all this

1201
01:01:37,040 --> 01:01:37,479
Speaker 2: other shit.

1202
01:01:38,080 --> 01:01:39,760
Speaker 4: And he already noticed it because they was. He was

1203
01:01:39,800 --> 01:01:42,840
Speaker 4: on camera when Jake was escaping, you know what I'm saying.

1204
01:01:42,840 --> 01:01:45,480
Speaker 2: Like it's gonna even be more broadcasted, like to the

1205
01:01:45,680 --> 01:01:48,240
Speaker 2: to the to Earth. They're gonna send more people because

1206
01:01:48,240 --> 01:01:49,440
Speaker 2: they gonn want to be like, all right, if he

1207
01:01:49,520 --> 01:01:51,640
Speaker 2: can breathe on here, then we can come here too,

1208
01:01:52,880 --> 01:01:54,440
Speaker 2: and that'll be a whole new dominion for them to

1209
01:01:54,480 --> 01:01:57,200
Speaker 2: take off. Like that's what it's gonna be, an intergalactic war,

1210
01:01:58,000 --> 01:01:59,760
Speaker 2: that's what they're kind of getting to. I think at

1211
01:01:59,800 --> 01:02:02,760
Speaker 2: this point it's been real domestic as far as like

1212
01:02:03,400 --> 01:02:07,360
Speaker 2: trying to fight off the colonizer colonizers, But I think

1213
01:02:07,640 --> 01:02:10,080
Speaker 2: we're gonna get more of like, oh Earth is coming,

1214
01:02:10,120 --> 01:02:11,840
Speaker 2: the whole planet is gonna come over.

1215
01:02:12,320 --> 01:02:15,560
Speaker 3: That they were definitely on the colonizing talk ship. Yeah.

1216
01:02:15,640 --> 01:02:18,040
Speaker 1: My homeboy he read the Cones as a comic and

1217
01:02:18,160 --> 01:02:20,760
Speaker 1: he read it and it's more fighting. It's like they

1218
01:02:20,800 --> 01:02:22,000
Speaker 1: start fighting in space and ship.

1219
01:02:22,120 --> 01:02:23,280
Speaker 2: So yeah, it's.

1220
01:02:23,120 --> 01:02:27,040
Speaker 3: Gonna have to be well, I guess that's Star Wars.

1221
01:02:28,360 --> 01:02:29,920
Speaker 2: It's basically gonna be Star Wars.

1222
01:02:31,680 --> 01:02:35,600
Speaker 3: Yeah. So our Kirie final was able to connect with

1223
01:02:35,760 --> 01:02:38,600
Speaker 3: our but it took everybody to come down there and

1224
01:02:38,640 --> 01:02:42,040
Speaker 3: help her out because because Iowa did not want to

1225
01:02:42,160 --> 01:02:44,160
Speaker 3: holler at her anymore. I would come through and basically

1226
01:02:44,160 --> 01:02:46,760
Speaker 3: say the day with them damn squid things that came

1227
01:02:46,800 --> 01:02:49,760
Speaker 3: in and fucked everybody up. It was satisfying seeing that

1228
01:02:49,880 --> 01:02:53,320
Speaker 3: guy finally get killed. And it looked like it was

1229
01:02:53,360 --> 01:02:53,960
Speaker 3: brutal too.

1230
01:02:54,640 --> 01:02:58,760
Speaker 2: They made with the army, Yeah, because because I was thinking,

1231
01:02:58,840 --> 01:03:01,480
Speaker 2: like the whales just go keep pulling him down until

1232
01:03:01,520 --> 01:03:04,520
Speaker 2: the pressure that's gonna bust his you know. That's the

1233
01:03:04,560 --> 01:03:07,400
Speaker 2: one thing that that's why I think this, Uh, they've

1234
01:03:07,440 --> 01:03:10,040
Speaker 2: explored more of space than they have of the sea

1235
01:03:10,720 --> 01:03:12,800
Speaker 2: because of how much pressure is the lowder you get

1236
01:03:12,840 --> 01:03:16,520
Speaker 2: into the into the water, so to die like that,

1237
01:03:18,000 --> 01:03:23,440
Speaker 2: it's probably painful as hell, yeah, but but that.

1238
01:03:23,640 --> 01:03:25,040
Speaker 3: That was That's pretty much it.

1239
01:03:25,240 --> 01:03:25,439
Speaker 2: Man.

1240
01:03:26,240 --> 01:03:29,760
Speaker 3: That was the movie in a in a nutshell, you know,

1241
01:03:29,920 --> 01:03:32,840
Speaker 3: it's it's a you know, it's very difficult to go

1242
01:03:32,920 --> 01:03:35,680
Speaker 3: through this thing bit by bit, but you.

1243
01:03:35,720 --> 01:03:37,520
Speaker 2: Don't really need to. It ain't ship going on this

1244
01:03:37,880 --> 01:03:40,760
Speaker 2: this movie, this movie mayn't realize, Bro, he is wasting

1245
01:03:40,800 --> 01:03:44,760
Speaker 2: his time on these films. Bro. No, I'm saying he's

1246
01:03:44,760 --> 01:03:47,360
Speaker 2: wasting He ain't waste the money. I'm saying he wasting

1247
01:03:47,440 --> 01:03:47,880
Speaker 2: his time.

1248
01:03:48,440 --> 01:03:51,360
Speaker 1: He's not, bro, Because even though you say that there's

1249
01:03:51,360 --> 01:03:54,000
Speaker 1: a there's a colt following behind Avatar, there's niggas who

1250
01:03:54,000 --> 01:03:57,560
Speaker 1: are actually there's an Avatar dude who like is doing

1251
01:03:58,040 --> 01:04:00,000
Speaker 1: like tattooing his body to be blue. Is a whole

1252
01:04:00,160 --> 01:04:04,040
Speaker 1: community of people who really really really fuck with Avatar.

1253
01:04:04,120 --> 01:04:04,240
Speaker 4: Bro.

1254
01:04:04,400 --> 01:04:06,800
Speaker 1: So now he was wasting his time like it'll make

1255
01:04:06,840 --> 01:04:09,800
Speaker 1: at least one point five billion, shit was selling.

1256
01:04:10,040 --> 01:04:11,400
Speaker 4: Three That's what I'm saying.

1257
01:04:11,440 --> 01:04:13,480
Speaker 1: It's a cult following by and then the people who

1258
01:04:13,520 --> 01:04:16,040
Speaker 1: aren't even Colt following, like my own boy, he just

1259
01:04:16,120 --> 01:04:17,280
Speaker 1: like I just want to go get I was like

1260
01:04:17,320 --> 01:04:19,400
Speaker 1: with your expectations for the film. He's like, bro, I

1261
01:04:19,480 --> 01:04:21,240
Speaker 1: just want to be lost in Pandora for three hours

1262
01:04:21,240 --> 01:04:21,840
Speaker 1: and then go home.

1263
01:04:21,960 --> 01:04:22,280
Speaker 4: That's all.

1264
01:04:22,680 --> 01:04:24,680
Speaker 1: He not even a big, big fan, but he like

1265
01:04:25,080 --> 01:04:27,000
Speaker 1: Pandora is a dope place to be and when it

1266
01:04:27,040 --> 01:04:28,440
Speaker 1: got doing the movies, like, I was just happy to

1267
01:04:28,440 --> 01:04:30,479
Speaker 1: be in Pandora. Like he didn't care about the plot line.

1268
01:04:30,560 --> 01:04:33,640
Speaker 1: People go just for the experience of Avatar and visually,

1269
01:04:34,120 --> 01:04:36,360
Speaker 1: that's what James Gunn is hanging his hat on, is like,

1270
01:04:37,240 --> 01:04:40,840
Speaker 1: at least people are going to enjoy looking at it, Like, I.

1271
01:04:41,040 --> 01:04:43,720
Speaker 3: Was surprised at the number of people. I had no

1272
01:04:43,840 --> 01:04:45,640
Speaker 3: desire to go watch it as late as I did,

1273
01:04:45,680 --> 01:04:48,320
Speaker 3: but I had no other choice. But there were a

1274
01:04:48,480 --> 01:04:51,840
Speaker 3: lot of people that were willing to go watch this

1275
01:04:52,000 --> 01:04:55,480
Speaker 3: movie at eleven or twelve o'clock. Ab was the one

1276
01:04:55,560 --> 01:04:57,880
Speaker 3: that told me about it because that was the time

1277
01:04:57,880 --> 01:05:00,720
Speaker 3: he was looking at. He said, the the twelve o'clock

1278
01:05:00,720 --> 01:05:03,040
Speaker 3: show he was looking at on opening night sold out.

1279
01:05:03,960 --> 01:05:05,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I get I get it. For the

1280
01:05:05,720 --> 01:05:09,600
Speaker 2: first weekend, this is the biggest movie of the season

1281
01:05:09,800 --> 01:05:13,960
Speaker 2: of probably of the fourth quarter, definitely for the fourth quarter.

1282
01:05:14,840 --> 01:05:18,680
Speaker 2: But it's to me, I say, wasting his time, because

1283
01:05:18,680 --> 01:05:20,760
Speaker 2: I'm like, bro, a guy who could do this visually,

1284
01:05:21,840 --> 01:05:24,400
Speaker 2: can get with some kind of can get a good

1285
01:05:24,440 --> 01:05:27,520
Speaker 2: script and turn that into another franchise or something like that.

1286
01:05:27,520 --> 01:05:30,680
Speaker 2: I'nderstanding like brou like, this story isn't even that great

1287
01:05:30,920 --> 01:05:33,600
Speaker 2: to keep doing it. Like if this is just again,

1288
01:05:33,640 --> 01:05:35,760
Speaker 2: if it's a money grab and all that shit, that's fine.

1289
01:05:35,800 --> 01:05:38,919
Speaker 2: I'm sure he gets a percentage of the film since

1290
01:05:38,960 --> 01:05:41,360
Speaker 2: he's been working on this for the last it's about

1291
01:05:41,360 --> 01:05:42,880
Speaker 2: to be twenty years that he's been working on just

1292
01:05:42,960 --> 01:05:44,640
Speaker 2: one movie essentially.

1293
01:05:45,640 --> 01:05:48,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, yeah, I think Jaylen just mentioned it. Yeah,

1294
01:05:49,160 --> 01:05:51,880
Speaker 3: it's it's globally, it's where they're gonna make the money.

1295
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Speaker 1: Yeah, they don't make money off of us. We don't

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01:05:55,400 --> 01:05:56,960
Speaker 1: care about it everywhere else.

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Speaker 4: They really the.

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01:05:58,600 --> 01:06:02,240
Speaker 2: Movie was like budget wise is like half a billion itself,

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01:06:02,360 --> 01:06:04,040
Speaker 2: so it got to make at least one point five

1300
01:06:04,160 --> 01:06:08,720
Speaker 2: to kind of clear the books. Unless he yeah, unless

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01:06:08,720 --> 01:06:11,120
Speaker 2: he because I heard I heard he shot most of

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01:06:11,160 --> 01:06:13,840
Speaker 2: this stuff back to back, so unless he was just

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01:06:13,920 --> 01:06:15,800
Speaker 2: kind of using you know, the same ship, so he

1304
01:06:15,840 --> 01:06:18,720
Speaker 2: can probably save money like that. But still this is

1305
01:06:18,840 --> 01:06:20,600
Speaker 2: you could tell this is an expensive as move. And

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01:06:20,680 --> 01:06:23,800
Speaker 2: j was talking about why doesn't Marvels. Marvel doesn't concentrate

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01:06:23,880 --> 01:06:25,520
Speaker 2: on movies like for this long.

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01:06:26,160 --> 01:06:28,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly why I'm just saying I would. I would.

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01:06:29,280 --> 01:06:32,240
Speaker 4: I would prefer that they did. But yeah, I know

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01:06:32,360 --> 01:06:33,919
Speaker 4: why they don't do it, because I mean.

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01:06:33,840 --> 01:06:37,680
Speaker 1: It's also it's popcorn, it's real fast. But I mean,

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01:06:38,000 --> 01:06:41,600
Speaker 1: i mean, shiit three three forty five worldwide in the

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01:06:41,680 --> 01:06:42,280
Speaker 1: first weekend.

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01:06:42,920 --> 01:06:45,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, but this is I'm like, the next movie is

1315
01:06:45,680 --> 01:06:48,240
Speaker 2: probably gonna be three hours and thirty minutes or or

1316
01:06:48,360 --> 01:06:50,720
Speaker 2: something like that, And I'm like, bro at that point,

1317
01:06:51,720 --> 01:06:56,200
Speaker 2: speaking as a moviegoer, got cycling me out? Who has

1318
01:06:56,360 --> 01:06:58,840
Speaker 2: enough time to because I saw Minds at ten forty five,

1319
01:06:58,920 --> 01:07:00,320
Speaker 2: kis I didn't get home to like a on three

1320
01:07:00,360 --> 01:07:03,040
Speaker 2: in the morning too, because you got you got thirty

1321
01:07:03,080 --> 01:07:05,160
Speaker 2: minute previews. You know, they're trying to show every preview

1322
01:07:05,160 --> 01:07:06,640
Speaker 2: in the world for this one because they know everybody

1323
01:07:06,680 --> 01:07:10,280
Speaker 2: trying to see it. I'm not, I'm not. I don't

1324
01:07:10,360 --> 01:07:14,240
Speaker 2: know if I never have thought maybe the Avengers movies

1325
01:07:14,280 --> 01:07:15,880
Speaker 2: are the only movies where I'm like, I'll even go

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01:07:16,040 --> 01:07:18,760
Speaker 2: and I'll sit for three hours and watch this because

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01:07:18,760 --> 01:07:21,200
Speaker 2: these are characters that I mean, not developing for Hammler

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01:07:22,160 --> 01:07:24,320
Speaker 2: that was a one off, Nigga, I'm not open ham

1329
01:07:24,720 --> 01:07:28,680
Speaker 2: He'd got three sequels coming out what we see in

1330
01:07:28,760 --> 01:07:32,160
Speaker 2: Opie arguing with a sad chick like, I'm not doing

1331
01:07:32,320 --> 01:07:35,280
Speaker 2: like he it's a one If you're doing a one off,

1332
01:07:35,360 --> 01:07:38,680
Speaker 2: that's fine. But to tell me that this is a

1333
01:07:38,800 --> 01:07:41,360
Speaker 2: one long movie and they're just cut up in like

1334
01:07:41,560 --> 01:07:43,680
Speaker 2: increments and saying the next one's gonna still be three

1335
01:07:43,680 --> 01:07:45,720
Speaker 2: and nine hours, I'm not doing that. I'm not doing that.

1336
01:07:46,120 --> 01:07:47,560
Speaker 2: I'll wait till it come out. I wait till the stream.

1337
01:07:47,640 --> 01:07:49,200
Speaker 2: This is where the streaming wars come into or I'm

1338
01:07:49,200 --> 01:07:50,000
Speaker 2: gonna wait till the stream.

1339
01:07:51,280 --> 01:07:55,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I'll probably watch it, but I won't

1340
01:07:55,400 --> 01:07:56,080
Speaker 3: be happy about it.

1341
01:07:56,600 --> 01:08:02,520
Speaker 4: But I'm I'm I'm not this movie.

1342
01:08:02,600 --> 01:08:04,320
Speaker 1: I was kind of enthused to see where they were

1343
01:08:04,360 --> 01:08:06,080
Speaker 1: gonna go after the last one, especially with the death

1344
01:08:06,160 --> 01:08:08,400
Speaker 1: or whatever, even though I haven't seen it since it

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01:08:08,520 --> 01:08:08,960
Speaker 1: came out.

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01:08:09,360 --> 01:08:10,920
Speaker 4: Like when I did a recap, I was like, oh,

1347
01:08:10,960 --> 01:08:13,160
Speaker 4: I did remember all those beats and enjoyed the movie.

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01:08:13,640 --> 01:08:15,800
Speaker 1: Then after seeing this one, I'm like, ah, man, like

1349
01:08:15,920 --> 01:08:19,000
Speaker 1: this wasn't as what I wanted to be, but I

1350
01:08:19,080 --> 01:08:20,880
Speaker 1: would prefer to watch it on a big ass s

1351
01:08:20,880 --> 01:08:23,479
Speaker 1: cream and streaming, just because that's visually how it looks.

1352
01:08:23,520 --> 01:08:25,479
Speaker 1: But I understand exactly what Nick is at. I'm not

1353
01:08:25,560 --> 01:08:27,800
Speaker 1: saying you wrong, Nick, because I understand exactly where you at.

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01:08:29,920 --> 01:08:33,360
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, And you know I was thinking about now

1355
01:08:33,560 --> 01:08:35,920
Speaker 3: versus next week. I think it kind of works. I

1356
01:08:36,000 --> 01:08:38,200
Speaker 3: think once because next week a lot of people are

1357
01:08:38,200 --> 01:08:40,840
Speaker 3: going to be off for the holidays, so it may

1358
01:08:41,080 --> 01:08:42,760
Speaker 3: and I'll be interested to see the numbers as we

1359
01:08:42,840 --> 01:08:45,720
Speaker 3: get ready to close out. I read Superchats next is

1360
01:08:46,280 --> 01:08:48,280
Speaker 3: the numbers may take off because people are looking at

1361
01:08:48,360 --> 01:08:50,519
Speaker 3: us a three hours bro. Nah, I'm off next week.

1362
01:08:50,720 --> 01:08:52,960
Speaker 3: We'll just go make a family of been out of

1363
01:08:53,040 --> 01:08:55,400
Speaker 3: it and that'll be that. So I'll see if it

1364
01:08:55,760 --> 01:08:59,240
Speaker 3: if it picks up. But and I but yeah, but

1365
01:09:00,040 --> 01:09:03,719
Speaker 3: either way, I go. That's it, man. That's our review

1366
01:09:03,920 --> 01:09:07,320
Speaker 3: of Avatar. I do. I did like the villain of Iran.

1367
01:09:07,439 --> 01:09:10,479
Speaker 3: I think it's her name. Did she die? She just

1368
01:09:10,600 --> 01:09:11,200
Speaker 3: ran off? Right?

1369
01:09:11,520 --> 01:09:12,880
Speaker 2: I just saw her run off. I didn't see it.

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01:09:12,880 --> 01:09:15,000
Speaker 2: I didn't see her die. Like getting a lot of

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01:09:15,040 --> 01:09:16,599
Speaker 2: a lot of A lot of the main characters are

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01:09:16,600 --> 01:09:18,160
Speaker 2: still on the board. The only one I got took

1373
01:09:18,200 --> 01:09:23,800
Speaker 2: off was the sun and the one the one arm will, Dude,

1374
01:09:23,840 --> 01:09:25,800
Speaker 2: I don't like that. Everybody was waiting to die.

1375
01:09:26,520 --> 01:09:30,080
Speaker 3: Mm hmm, okay, good because I liked her. I liked her,

1376
01:09:30,240 --> 01:09:32,120
Speaker 3: so I definitely want to get that fight. And I

1377
01:09:32,200 --> 01:09:35,439
Speaker 3: think she she really could have made for for an

1378
01:09:35,520 --> 01:09:39,479
Speaker 3: interesting villain, her fighting fire versus the water, Like we

1379
01:09:39,720 --> 01:09:44,760
Speaker 3: really got the that clash man that that could have

1380
01:09:44,800 --> 01:09:47,200
Speaker 3: been dope. But hopefully they'll well, I don't know, we're

1381
01:09:47,200 --> 01:09:50,559
Speaker 3: going to space. We'll see how that playoff.

1382
01:09:51,080 --> 01:09:56,960
Speaker 1: Second highest, second highest global opening behind Nick's Corny.

1383
01:09:56,680 --> 01:10:01,920
Speaker 3: As Listen, I saw Atopia was killing.

1384
01:10:02,040 --> 01:10:02,120
Speaker 4: Bro.

1385
01:10:02,320 --> 01:10:04,240
Speaker 2: Hey, I'm trying to tell you I'd rather watch Utopia

1386
01:10:04,320 --> 01:10:06,280
Speaker 2: twice than watch this movie ever again.

1387
01:10:06,439 --> 01:10:09,920
Speaker 3: Bro, this movie I gotta go see too.

1388
01:10:10,320 --> 01:10:13,040
Speaker 2: Hey, Ken, I'm trying to tell you it's shipping on

1389
01:10:13,160 --> 01:10:15,360
Speaker 2: inside out. I don't go fuck with these biggest.

1390
01:10:16,640 --> 01:10:19,960
Speaker 4: I'm telling you that he took all by enjoyment out

1391
01:10:20,000 --> 01:10:21,400
Speaker 4: of Dutopia just from that tape.

1392
01:10:21,760 --> 01:10:23,840
Speaker 2: Just because of that tape, they.

1393
01:10:23,800 --> 01:10:24,519
Speaker 4: Took me out of it.

1394
01:10:24,760 --> 01:10:28,080
Speaker 2: I'm trying they made animals fun again, That's what I'm

1395
01:10:28,080 --> 01:10:32,759
Speaker 2: trying to say. They read after the Wheel, all.

1396
01:10:32,680 --> 01:10:35,920
Speaker 3: Right, man, real quick. A couple of super chats with

1397
01:10:36,120 --> 01:10:38,960
Speaker 3: them boys said, that's a cool movie. A member chat

1398
01:10:39,040 --> 01:10:41,880
Speaker 3: remember for forty seven months. Appreciate it cool movie. Seven

1399
01:10:41,920 --> 01:10:44,719
Speaker 3: point five out of ten enjoyed the story and images,

1400
01:10:44,880 --> 01:10:48,040
Speaker 3: which is well visually is what Avatar is all about?

1401
01:10:50,080 --> 01:10:53,439
Speaker 3: Black Ross. What was the most disappointing movie this year?

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01:10:56,880 --> 01:10:57,920
Speaker 2: Damn, that's a good question.

1403
01:11:00,680 --> 01:11:04,720
Speaker 4: I have to log into my left probably j JK execution.

1404
01:11:06,680 --> 01:11:06,920
Speaker 3: For me.

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01:11:08,000 --> 01:11:12,720
Speaker 4: Did you some guys in the movie was the most disappointing?

1406
01:11:12,760 --> 01:11:14,280
Speaker 2: I got I gotta think. I'm I'm gonna answer that.

1407
01:11:14,320 --> 01:11:15,880
Speaker 2: I'm gonna I gotta look at the movies that came

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01:11:15,920 --> 01:11:16,439
Speaker 2: out this year.

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01:11:17,720 --> 01:11:20,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, can you keep going?

1410
01:11:20,240 --> 01:11:21,240
Speaker 2: I'm gonna come back to a kid.

1411
01:11:21,280 --> 01:11:23,519
Speaker 3: Okay, Yeah, I gotta pull up my letter box, get

1412
01:11:23,640 --> 01:11:27,360
Speaker 3: up open the time. Did y'all watch the doomsday trailer

1413
01:11:27,439 --> 01:11:28,120
Speaker 3: in theaters?

1414
01:11:29,360 --> 01:11:33,040
Speaker 2: Yes, that's the main reason why I went to answer

1415
01:11:33,080 --> 01:11:36,960
Speaker 2: the previous question. Captain America, Brave New World. That was

1416
01:11:37,000 --> 01:11:41,559
Speaker 2: the most disappointing that movie could have been. The trailer

1417
01:11:41,720 --> 01:11:43,080
Speaker 2: made it seem like it was gonna be a lot

1418
01:11:43,160 --> 01:11:44,000
Speaker 2: better than what it was.

1419
01:11:45,240 --> 01:11:48,719
Speaker 4: The trailer gave you the movie did do all the movies?

1420
01:11:51,120 --> 01:11:51,280
Speaker 2: Kid?

1421
01:11:51,400 --> 01:11:53,240
Speaker 4: I had to he told the truth.

1422
01:11:54,800 --> 01:11:58,320
Speaker 2: That's the first black cap in in cinema history, kid,

1423
01:11:58,920 --> 01:12:00,320
Speaker 2: and they did that nigga that way.

1424
01:12:00,800 --> 01:12:00,920
Speaker 3: Uh.

1425
01:12:01,479 --> 01:12:04,080
Speaker 2: Yes, I went to the movies mostly to see this

1426
01:12:04,240 --> 01:12:07,600
Speaker 2: doomsday trailer, teaser trailer, just to tell them, just for

1427
01:12:07,680 --> 01:12:09,320
Speaker 2: them to tell us something that we already knew.

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01:12:10,800 --> 01:12:10,920
Speaker 3: Uh.

1429
01:12:11,320 --> 01:12:14,519
Speaker 1: It wasn't us, man, I mean, it's bullshit, but it

1430
01:12:14,640 --> 01:12:16,600
Speaker 1: wasn't for us. It's by the people who gave up

1431
01:12:16,600 --> 01:12:17,200
Speaker 1: at the end game.

1432
01:12:18,720 --> 01:12:20,479
Speaker 2: Oh yeah. And I think they said they're gonna do

1433
01:12:20,640 --> 01:12:23,560
Speaker 2: like three more, three four more of like like that

1434
01:12:23,760 --> 01:12:26,479
Speaker 2: before they dropped the trailer, like Thor was supposed to

1435
01:12:26,520 --> 01:12:29,679
Speaker 2: get one Doomsday supposed to I mean doctor Dum maybe

1436
01:12:29,880 --> 01:12:32,680
Speaker 2: is gonna get one, and I forgot somebody else was

1437
01:12:32,680 --> 01:12:37,479
Speaker 2: gonna get one. Oh, but I think this is Thor

1438
01:12:37,560 --> 01:12:40,240
Speaker 2: in them's like last one essentially.

1439
01:12:41,240 --> 01:12:43,960
Speaker 1: That's see what they say we're gonna see until they

1440
01:12:44,000 --> 01:12:46,040
Speaker 1: put enough money in front of them and we're gonna see.

1441
01:12:48,120 --> 01:12:52,120
Speaker 3: M hmm. I wish I could have I saw it.

1442
01:12:52,200 --> 01:12:54,080
Speaker 3: I just didn't hear it, but I don't be trying

1443
01:12:54,080 --> 01:12:56,439
Speaker 3: to watch the trailers. But they they didn't have any

1444
01:12:56,520 --> 01:12:59,320
Speaker 3: sound on it when they were running trailers. Uh.

1445
01:12:59,760 --> 01:13:01,280
Speaker 2: Oh, we saw the trailer, but you didn't hear what

1446
01:13:01,360 --> 01:13:04,680
Speaker 2: it was. Nothing was said. It was just it was

1447
01:13:04,760 --> 01:13:06,599
Speaker 2: just like they just started the clock on this time.

1448
01:13:06,680 --> 01:13:09,040
Speaker 2: Next year, they're gonna drop Doomsday.

1449
01:13:09,920 --> 01:13:17,200
Speaker 3: Okay, it's fine, I'm cool. Not haven't watched it. Let's see,

1450
01:13:17,479 --> 01:13:23,080
Speaker 3: y'all plan on reviewing plural bus or Dairy Yep, yep, yeah,

1451
01:13:23,160 --> 01:13:29,040
Speaker 3: we already reviewed Dairy. Oh yeah, we'll definitely talk about

1452
01:13:29,080 --> 01:13:34,000
Speaker 3: plural Busts as well, because I think that's done. Well.

1453
01:13:34,040 --> 01:13:34,639
Speaker 3: We have one more.

1454
01:13:35,280 --> 01:13:36,800
Speaker 2: I haven't watched. I haven't checked it out, y'all. I

1455
01:13:36,800 --> 01:13:38,040
Speaker 2: was gonna binge watch it. Is it worth it?

1456
01:13:38,960 --> 01:13:40,920
Speaker 3: It's worth being watching. I stopped watching it because it

1457
01:13:41,000 --> 01:13:42,040
Speaker 3: was it was dragging for me.

1458
01:13:42,400 --> 01:13:45,280
Speaker 1: I understand not watching the Week the week because it's

1459
01:13:45,320 --> 01:13:47,639
Speaker 1: from the people that may breaking bad, right, Yeah exactly,

1460
01:13:47,960 --> 01:13:50,880
Speaker 1: So that's why. Yeah, they Yeah, they always drag shit

1461
01:13:51,000 --> 01:13:52,719
Speaker 1: out yea mm.

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01:13:52,640 --> 01:13:59,400
Speaker 3: Hmmm yeah, it's like, bro, come on, uh, disappointing, not

1463
01:13:59,560 --> 01:14:01,800
Speaker 3: worse more movie. I would go with Predator bad Lands.

1464
01:14:03,640 --> 01:14:07,960
Speaker 2: That wasn't that bad. That's that's not that bad kid, Predator, Bro.

1465
01:14:08,439 --> 01:14:09,760
Speaker 4: But that's also not what he saw.

1466
01:14:09,960 --> 01:14:13,400
Speaker 1: He said, not bad, he said, disappointing, not bad movie disappointing.

1467
01:14:13,439 --> 01:14:14,959
Speaker 2: Yeah, because he was because he was emotional.

1468
01:14:19,000 --> 01:14:21,400
Speaker 4: His predator, his predator.

1469
01:14:23,240 --> 01:14:23,679
Speaker 3: Feelix.

1470
01:14:24,479 --> 01:14:25,920
Speaker 2: They all can't be thus bro.

1471
01:14:29,320 --> 01:14:34,519
Speaker 3: But yeah, yeah, r k F master, what's the movie

1472
01:14:34,640 --> 01:14:41,280
Speaker 3: so bad that it made you upset? Hurry up tomorrow.

1473
01:14:50,560 --> 01:14:51,479
Speaker 4: I can't understand that.

1474
01:14:52,439 --> 01:15:01,000
Speaker 2: I was gonna say, it's arguably him or or The

1475
01:15:01,080 --> 01:15:01,599
Speaker 2: Running Man.

1476
01:15:04,320 --> 01:15:05,439
Speaker 3: Damn the Running Man.

1477
01:15:06,560 --> 01:15:08,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, because it was like it was hyped up to

1478
01:15:08,479 --> 01:15:11,840
Speaker 2: be a good ass movie, kid, and it was like

1479
01:15:12,680 --> 01:15:13,519
Speaker 2: you could have kept that.

1480
01:15:14,320 --> 01:15:15,640
Speaker 3: I ain't know they were hyping it up.

1481
01:15:16,000 --> 01:15:17,800
Speaker 2: They was hyping up Running Running Man was supposed to

1482
01:15:17,800 --> 01:15:19,400
Speaker 2: be like one of like the big surprises of the year,

1483
01:15:19,960 --> 01:15:21,880
Speaker 2: and they came and went like a fart in the wind.

1484
01:15:22,240 --> 01:15:23,960
Speaker 3: It did. It's on streaming now.

1485
01:15:24,400 --> 01:15:27,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, they put that it was running to the streamers.

1486
01:15:29,840 --> 01:15:40,000
Speaker 2: That's always exactly in two weeks, Yo, by the top

1487
01:15:40,000 --> 01:15:42,920
Speaker 2: of your necks, check comes that motherfucker's nineteen ninety nine. Yeah,

1488
01:15:42,920 --> 01:15:43,840
Speaker 2: that movie was cheeks.

1489
01:15:44,520 --> 01:15:44,720
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1490
01:15:45,479 --> 01:15:47,879
Speaker 4: I took my nieces to see Smurfs.

1491
01:15:49,439 --> 01:15:51,479
Speaker 2: Don't do that. Don't blame it on them. Just said

1492
01:15:51,479 --> 01:15:52,360
Speaker 2: you want to see smurs.

1493
01:15:53,960 --> 01:15:56,639
Speaker 4: I'm not a Smurfs fan, but this ship is terrible.

1494
01:15:56,680 --> 01:15:57,559
Speaker 3: That shit was terrible.

1495
01:15:57,640 --> 01:16:00,680
Speaker 1: Bro, I was trying to be a cool uncle and

1496
01:16:00,720 --> 01:16:02,200
Speaker 1: I was in there. They was looking at me like

1497
01:16:02,280 --> 01:16:04,120
Speaker 1: I was ruining the movie for them, Bro, I was

1498
01:16:04,160 --> 01:16:08,679
Speaker 1: trying my best not to. But yeah, Smurca was definitely terrible.

1499
01:16:10,040 --> 01:16:12,559
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, that made me upset.

1500
01:16:13,840 --> 01:16:16,320
Speaker 3: I gotta watch it. You have to know. I didn't

1501
01:16:16,320 --> 01:16:20,840
Speaker 3: miss anything. Last one black Rock's Too Hot takes. I

1502
01:16:20,880 --> 01:16:23,639
Speaker 3: would live in Gotham before I would spend an hour

1503
01:16:23,800 --> 01:16:28,200
Speaker 3: in Kingstown. Second, Darry was the best HBO show this year.

1504
01:16:28,360 --> 01:16:29,400
Speaker 3: The Pit was number two.

1505
01:16:32,960 --> 01:16:36,280
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna give out my dairy taste, but The

1506
01:16:36,400 --> 01:16:39,240
Speaker 2: Pit may be the best HBO show this year. Well,

1507
01:16:39,560 --> 01:16:43,559
Speaker 2: didn't the Penguin come out this year? Was that last year?

1508
01:16:44,080 --> 01:16:44,519
Speaker 3: Last year?

1509
01:16:44,960 --> 01:16:47,720
Speaker 2: Last year? Hold on, let me see what h show

1510
01:16:47,800 --> 01:16:51,840
Speaker 2: TV shirt shows came out this year? Derry was good,

1511
01:16:51,920 --> 01:16:55,720
Speaker 2: but it was also kind of I ain't gonna say

1512
01:16:55,800 --> 01:16:56,840
Speaker 2: much afterday your.

1513
01:16:57,080 --> 01:17:07,360
Speaker 4: View tomorrow, I'm say nigga review. I didn't think he's right, Bro.

1514
01:17:08,280 --> 01:17:11,479
Speaker 2: I think the I would put the Pit over Darry though. Yeah,

1515
01:17:12,320 --> 01:17:15,120
Speaker 2: I think it's just splitting here, spliping here, but I

1516
01:17:15,160 --> 01:17:18,000
Speaker 2: would rather be in Kingstown than Gotham. Bro, got from

1517
01:17:18,040 --> 01:17:19,600
Speaker 2: your ass, can get taped out by the Joker. But

1518
01:17:19,720 --> 01:17:21,760
Speaker 2: he's spreading acid in your face or he's making you cry.

1519
01:17:21,760 --> 01:17:25,200
Speaker 2: And ship Kingstoyle, you're just dealing with niggas, you know.

1520
01:17:25,760 --> 01:17:26,519
Speaker 4: I take that back.

1521
01:17:27,200 --> 01:17:31,120
Speaker 1: Common side effects. Common up there, bro, common side effect.

1522
01:17:31,240 --> 01:17:31,760
Speaker 3: Love that ship.

1523
01:17:33,000 --> 01:17:36,000
Speaker 2: I haven't finished it. I haven't finished it. I haven't

1524
01:17:36,000 --> 01:17:36,360
Speaker 2: finished it.

1525
01:17:36,400 --> 01:17:41,040
Speaker 3: I heard it was good though. Yeah, yeah, this year

1526
01:17:41,840 --> 01:17:43,719
Speaker 3: I'm glad. Yeah, I got to start working on my list.

1527
01:17:44,120 --> 01:17:46,320
Speaker 1: I definitely damn right, you better start working on your

1528
01:17:46,600 --> 01:17:50,559
Speaker 1: y'all hear your hand and Hill live, can you better.

1529
01:17:50,400 --> 01:17:51,599
Speaker 4: Damn sure work on his list?

1530
01:17:52,360 --> 01:17:55,000
Speaker 3: When is the deadline? Man?

1531
01:17:55,080 --> 01:17:56,679
Speaker 2: I put it in yesterday.

1532
01:17:57,120 --> 01:17:57,839
Speaker 4: It was yesterday.

1533
01:17:58,479 --> 01:18:04,920
Speaker 2: Were gonna break You already see that. We're the last

1534
01:18:05,000 --> 01:18:11,760
Speaker 2: niggas at the office and you're asking the turn that's

1535
01:18:11,760 --> 01:18:14,960
Speaker 2: not gonna get pushed through. The twenty twenty six New

1536
01:18:15,080 --> 01:18:16,559
Speaker 2: Year's Eve is the last day?

1537
01:18:16,840 --> 01:18:20,759
Speaker 4: Is the day, all right? And the live for y'all listening.

1538
01:18:20,840 --> 01:18:24,320
Speaker 4: The live will be January eleven for.

1539
01:18:24,439 --> 01:18:27,400
Speaker 1: The top top twenty, top ten films and TV shows

1540
01:18:27,439 --> 01:18:28,360
Speaker 1: of twenty twenty five.

1541
01:18:30,240 --> 01:18:33,120
Speaker 3: Uh So that was it for the super chant. Quadaloupe

1542
01:18:33,840 --> 01:18:35,559
Speaker 3: Jayla wants to know what's going on with the podcast.

1543
01:18:35,600 --> 01:18:38,760
Speaker 4: Bro, Man, can't I mean, Nick got on my ass

1544
01:18:38,840 --> 01:18:39,439
Speaker 4: this week about it.

1545
01:18:39,520 --> 01:18:41,720
Speaker 1: It's coming, man, Nick, me and Nick, niggas gonna help

1546
01:18:41,760 --> 01:18:43,920
Speaker 1: me out, make sure I stay accountable to getting it done.

1547
01:18:44,560 --> 01:18:45,600
Speaker 4: I'm just, I'm just.

1548
01:18:45,760 --> 01:18:47,439
Speaker 1: Life has just been beating my ass and I've been

1549
01:18:47,479 --> 01:18:49,800
Speaker 1: falling behind and making sure a frame stuff getting done too.

1550
01:18:49,880 --> 01:18:53,360
Speaker 4: So yeah, niggas, niggas holding my feet to the fire.

1551
01:18:54,360 --> 01:18:56,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, we gotta. You can't say shit on air, and

1552
01:18:57,040 --> 01:18:59,920
Speaker 2: then I follow through the biggest, biggest niggas.

1553
01:19:00,880 --> 01:19:02,679
Speaker 1: I tell your niggas, I tell the these nigga about

1554
01:19:02,680 --> 01:19:04,240
Speaker 1: that ship all the time, and then I did it myself,

1555
01:19:04,320 --> 01:19:06,200
Speaker 1: so exactly, it's coming.

1556
01:19:06,520 --> 01:19:10,840
Speaker 3: It's coming, all right, Well, there you go, and that's it, man.

1557
01:19:10,880 --> 01:19:15,479
Speaker 3: That's our Those are our thoughts. Review of Avatar. Appreciate

1558
01:19:15,640 --> 01:19:18,080
Speaker 3: mister Towns. That's in my Netflix list. I'm gonna watch it.

1559
01:19:19,640 --> 01:19:23,240
Speaker 3: But yeah, so we'll catch you guys in the new year. Nick,

1560
01:19:23,600 --> 01:19:26,400
Speaker 3: Nick and Jalen, I guess appreciate you guys. Hoppy on

1561
01:19:26,560 --> 01:19:30,719
Speaker 3: here to discuss this movie. Was It was fun, No problem, problem.

1562
01:19:30,760 --> 01:19:35,280
Speaker 2: Happy holidays, everybody be safe and yeah, enjoy your time

1563
01:19:35,320 --> 01:19:38,559
Speaker 2: with your family and friends, all right, appy'all later