1 00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:05,640 Speaker 1: This really matters, and it may not be the reason 2 00:00:05,960 --> 00:00:08,640 Speaker 1: you think. And that's what's been fascinating about the arc 3 00:00:08,720 --> 00:00:11,360 Speaker 1: of this entire story. It's the Kendall and Casey Show. 4 00:00:11,600 --> 00:00:14,120 Speaker 1: I'm Rob Casey's here. Yesterday was a big day for 5 00:00:14,200 --> 00:00:18,840 Speaker 1: this program because we had Aaron Sheridan, former senior advisor 6 00:00:18,960 --> 00:00:21,400 Speaker 1: to Michael beck With the Lieutenant Governor, come on this 7 00:00:21,480 --> 00:00:22,599 Speaker 1: show and in great. 8 00:00:22,320 --> 00:00:26,920 Speaker 2: Detail spell out how she. 9 00:00:27,440 --> 00:00:32,159 Speaker 1: Viewed and how it was shared the artificial intelligence pornography 10 00:00:32,240 --> 00:00:36,159 Speaker 1: in Lieutenant Governor's office, her allegation, and like I said, 11 00:00:36,200 --> 00:00:39,879 Speaker 1: it was a twenty plus minute interview and you can 12 00:00:39,920 --> 00:00:42,400 Speaker 1: go back and listen to it. I think the major 13 00:00:42,440 --> 00:00:46,640 Speaker 1: takeaways were one, her detailed description of who was viewing 14 00:00:46,640 --> 00:00:50,559 Speaker 1: it and how it was shared with her, that the 15 00:00:50,640 --> 00:00:55,000 Speaker 1: people sharing it alleged the Lieutenant governor knew about it, 16 00:00:55,280 --> 00:00:58,800 Speaker 1: Michael beck With and that airin the day after it 17 00:00:58,920 --> 00:01:03,320 Speaker 1: was shared, reported it to Sherry Ellis, the chief of 18 00:01:03,320 --> 00:01:07,000 Speaker 1: staff for Michael BECKWA, who did nothing about it. I mean, 19 00:01:07,000 --> 00:01:08,520 Speaker 1: I think those are you know, it's a long interview, 20 00:01:08,560 --> 00:01:09,840 Speaker 1: right and you go to a whole bunch of difer things, 21 00:01:09,840 --> 00:01:13,600 Speaker 1: but I think those are the three big things on 22 00:01:13,640 --> 00:01:15,520 Speaker 1: this story that has interested so many people. 23 00:01:16,120 --> 00:01:18,920 Speaker 3: I think I've hearing or seeing a lot of people say, well, 24 00:01:18,920 --> 00:01:23,720 Speaker 3: this is just a disgruntled former employee, and why didn't 25 00:01:23,760 --> 00:01:25,680 Speaker 3: she come forward until now? 26 00:01:26,680 --> 00:01:27,240 Speaker 2: Well she did. 27 00:01:28,280 --> 00:01:32,440 Speaker 3: She went to her boss the very next day and said, Hey, 28 00:01:32,760 --> 00:01:34,000 Speaker 3: this is happening. 29 00:01:34,840 --> 00:01:38,400 Speaker 1: Right and I have no problem saying this. She alerted 30 00:01:38,440 --> 00:01:42,200 Speaker 1: me to it at the time. It is alleged to 31 00:01:42,240 --> 00:01:47,440 Speaker 1: have happened back in April. I have the messages and 32 00:01:48,640 --> 00:01:50,280 Speaker 1: didn't fully understand what she was saying. We're in the 33 00:01:50,280 --> 00:01:52,360 Speaker 1: middle of the property text, I think at the time, 34 00:01:53,200 --> 00:01:55,200 Speaker 1: and I think she told other people about it, like 35 00:01:56,000 --> 00:01:59,240 Speaker 1: it is just ridiculous to think that if you were 36 00:01:59,240 --> 00:02:03,120 Speaker 1: going to try to take someone down, that this is 37 00:02:03,240 --> 00:02:05,360 Speaker 1: the story that you would concoct. 38 00:02:05,800 --> 00:02:08,480 Speaker 2: And you who got screwed in all of this is Aaron. 39 00:02:09,600 --> 00:02:13,240 Speaker 1: She's had great financial sacrifice, having to secure legal counsel 40 00:02:13,760 --> 00:02:18,400 Speaker 1: to cooperate with the authorities, which she has to the 41 00:02:18,440 --> 00:02:24,480 Speaker 1: best of her ability. She has endured tons of harassment 42 00:02:24,520 --> 00:02:27,680 Speaker 1: and hate online from people because I think a lot 43 00:02:27,680 --> 00:02:33,160 Speaker 1: of people thought it was her. And for me, the 44 00:02:33,240 --> 00:02:36,480 Speaker 1: bigger issue here is not this thing. It's bad enough 45 00:02:36,480 --> 00:02:40,800 Speaker 1: that existed, if indeed it existed the way she describes her, 46 00:02:40,840 --> 00:02:41,639 Speaker 1: I have no reason. 47 00:02:41,440 --> 00:02:41,919 Speaker 2: To doubt her. 48 00:02:42,800 --> 00:02:47,120 Speaker 1: But it is the pattern of behavior of dishonesty and 49 00:02:47,240 --> 00:02:49,160 Speaker 1: deception from the Lieutenant Governor. 50 00:02:49,960 --> 00:02:51,080 Speaker 2: And you need to care. 51 00:02:50,960 --> 00:02:53,160 Speaker 1: About this, whether you think this story is whacky or 52 00:02:53,200 --> 00:02:55,560 Speaker 1: you think it's wrong that they have a law saying 53 00:02:55,639 --> 00:02:59,480 Speaker 1: artificial intelligence pornography is a crime in Indiana, because if 54 00:02:59,520 --> 00:03:01,640 Speaker 1: you they will lie to you about the little stuff, 55 00:03:02,520 --> 00:03:04,480 Speaker 1: they will certainly lie about the big. 56 00:03:04,280 --> 00:03:05,400 Speaker 2: Stuff, about the big stuff. 57 00:03:05,720 --> 00:03:09,480 Speaker 1: So Tony Katz and he I believe, read this on 58 00:03:09,880 --> 00:03:11,840 Speaker 1: his show this morning, and he said we could share it. 59 00:03:12,680 --> 00:03:15,320 Speaker 1: Reached out to the Lieutenant Governor and asked if he 60 00:03:15,360 --> 00:03:19,040 Speaker 1: would like to comment, because like the narrative keeps changing. 61 00:03:19,120 --> 00:03:22,120 Speaker 1: Right in the beginning, it was, well, it's an anonymous source. 62 00:03:22,280 --> 00:03:25,200 Speaker 1: Nobody will put their name behind it. Well, now somebody has, 63 00:03:25,320 --> 00:03:27,080 Speaker 1: and that person put their name behind it. From the beginning, 64 00:03:27,200 --> 00:03:31,000 Speaker 1: they were doing their job, cooperating with the authorities, and 65 00:03:31,040 --> 00:03:33,200 Speaker 1: they said from the beginning, told me, from the beginning, 66 00:03:33,320 --> 00:03:35,560 Speaker 1: I will gladly come tell this story as soon as 67 00:03:35,600 --> 00:03:38,400 Speaker 1: I am able to do that. And they did. And 68 00:03:38,480 --> 00:03:41,840 Speaker 1: that story she told yesterday has not changed from what 69 00:03:41,920 --> 00:03:44,360 Speaker 1: she told me from the very beginning. You know whose 70 00:03:44,440 --> 00:03:49,840 Speaker 1: story does keep changing? Lieutenant governors, the lieutenant governors. So 71 00:03:49,920 --> 00:03:54,080 Speaker 1: Tony reached out to Micah and asked for a comment, 72 00:03:54,080 --> 00:03:56,040 Speaker 1: and Micah gave him a comment. I'm going to read 73 00:03:56,120 --> 00:03:59,480 Speaker 1: you verbatim what Tony sent us, and I believe he's 74 00:03:59,480 --> 00:04:00,240 Speaker 1: read this on the. 75 00:04:01,720 --> 00:04:08,200 Speaker 2: I don't like you. What a what a welcome greeting. 76 00:04:09,320 --> 00:04:11,320 Speaker 2: I don't like you. 77 00:04:11,320 --> 00:04:15,960 Speaker 1: You're incredibly arrogant, and I think you just like to 78 00:04:16,040 --> 00:04:18,000 Speaker 1: hear the sound of your own voice. 79 00:04:18,200 --> 00:04:19,760 Speaker 2: Hey, potmeat cattle. 80 00:04:21,040 --> 00:04:24,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, Micah beckwith of all people and all the crap 81 00:04:24,880 --> 00:04:29,240 Speaker 1: he's caused because he loves the sound of his own 82 00:04:29,320 --> 00:04:32,760 Speaker 1: voice and seeing himself on television. He's gonna judge anybody 83 00:04:33,000 --> 00:04:35,640 Speaker 1: for loving the sound of their own voice. But that's 84 00:04:35,680 --> 00:04:38,279 Speaker 1: irrelevant to what we need to get to. I don't 85 00:04:38,400 --> 00:04:40,640 Speaker 1: like you. You're incredibly arrogant, and I think you just 86 00:04:40,760 --> 00:04:43,120 Speaker 1: like to hear the sound of your own voice. But 87 00:04:43,240 --> 00:04:48,880 Speaker 1: all that to say, I appreciate you reaching out and asking. No, 88 00:04:49,160 --> 00:04:53,360 Speaker 1: the video does not exist. I never saw it, nor 89 00:04:53,400 --> 00:04:56,440 Speaker 1: did I ever laugh at it or even the idea 90 00:04:56,520 --> 00:04:59,960 Speaker 1: of it. I would, in all caps, fire anyone immediate 91 00:05:00,760 --> 00:05:03,599 Speaker 1: if that kind of crap was ever happening in my office. 92 00:05:04,240 --> 00:05:06,600 Speaker 1: Now we get to the important part. And remember, if 93 00:05:06,640 --> 00:05:08,800 Speaker 1: you're telling the truth, you don't have to remember what 94 00:05:08,839 --> 00:05:13,080 Speaker 1: you said before, and the story doesn't change. The very 95 00:05:13,120 --> 00:05:16,440 Speaker 1: first time I even heard of the alleged video was 96 00:05:16,640 --> 00:05:20,200 Speaker 1: late summer when the reporter reached out to me saying 97 00:05:20,360 --> 00:05:23,359 Speaker 1: he talked to Aaron about this video. And I'm going 98 00:05:23,440 --> 00:05:25,320 Speaker 1: to read that to you again because that is very 99 00:05:25,360 --> 00:05:28,719 Speaker 1: important in all of this. The very first time I 100 00:05:28,800 --> 00:05:33,080 Speaker 1: even heard of the alleged video was late summer when 101 00:05:33,160 --> 00:05:35,680 Speaker 1: the reporter reached out to me saying he talked to 102 00:05:35,720 --> 00:05:39,360 Speaker 1: Aaron about this video. Now that reporter is Tom Lobianco 103 00:05:39,560 --> 00:05:42,919 Speaker 1: freelance journalist covers national politics, worked in the state of 104 00:05:42,920 --> 00:05:45,159 Speaker 1: Indiana for for a long time, work for Indie Starr. 105 00:05:46,520 --> 00:05:50,120 Speaker 1: That's who he is referencing. So I reached out to Lobbyanco. 106 00:05:50,200 --> 00:05:52,280 Speaker 1: We've had him on our show, we have, you know, 107 00:05:52,560 --> 00:05:56,599 Speaker 1: pretty decent relationship, and I said Tom, I showed him 108 00:05:56,839 --> 00:05:59,719 Speaker 1: the quote, which Tony said we could share, and I said, 109 00:06:00,680 --> 00:06:03,440 Speaker 1: is this accurate? Did you reveal to him that Aaron 110 00:06:03,480 --> 00:06:07,719 Speaker 1: Sheridan was indeed your source? Here is what Tom sent 111 00:06:07,760 --> 00:06:09,279 Speaker 1: me back and said, you may read this as an 112 00:06:09,320 --> 00:06:10,640 Speaker 1: official statement from me on. 113 00:06:10,560 --> 00:06:12,120 Speaker 2: Your radio program. 114 00:06:13,000 --> 00:06:17,160 Speaker 1: Micah Beckwick told me he learned about the deep fake 115 00:06:17,279 --> 00:06:21,240 Speaker 1: video from a treasure's office employed. Now he names the person. 116 00:06:21,240 --> 00:06:23,560 Speaker 1: We're not gonna name that person here, but he names 117 00:06:23,640 --> 00:06:26,799 Speaker 1: the person. When I spoke to him for the story. 118 00:06:28,400 --> 00:06:30,880 Speaker 1: I never told him how I learned about the deep 119 00:06:30,880 --> 00:06:35,120 Speaker 1: fake porn his staff. His staff watched. I don't know 120 00:06:35,160 --> 00:06:38,320 Speaker 1: why he's making stuff up, but I am used to that. 121 00:06:38,520 --> 00:06:41,640 Speaker 1: At this point, I'm still waiting for the results of 122 00:06:41,680 --> 00:06:45,600 Speaker 1: his internal investigation, which I filed a public records request for. 123 00:06:46,440 --> 00:06:49,720 Speaker 1: So you have Micah claiming he learned about it from 124 00:06:49,760 --> 00:06:54,039 Speaker 1: Lo Bianco, and Lo Bianco said, eh, eh, he he 125 00:06:54,200 --> 00:06:56,840 Speaker 1: being Micah beck With, told me he learned about it 126 00:06:57,040 --> 00:07:00,440 Speaker 1: from somebody in the Treasurer's office, and I never gave. 127 00:07:00,160 --> 00:07:01,359 Speaker 2: Him the name of the source. 128 00:07:02,160 --> 00:07:05,400 Speaker 1: It is another example with this guy, this guy being 129 00:07:05,440 --> 00:07:09,600 Speaker 1: Micah beck With, in which the story he's telling is 130 00:07:09,640 --> 00:07:14,040 Speaker 1: not consistent, it's not verifiable, and it's not coherent. 131 00:07:14,320 --> 00:07:15,400 Speaker 2: How many times. 132 00:07:15,120 --> 00:07:17,640 Speaker 1: Does it have to happen for everybody that says, oh, 133 00:07:17,760 --> 00:07:19,880 Speaker 1: Aaron Sheridan's this disgruntled employee. 134 00:07:19,880 --> 00:07:21,960 Speaker 2: She's doing it because of this or because of that. 135 00:07:22,720 --> 00:07:25,200 Speaker 1: Erin is flushing her career in state government, a thirty 136 00:07:25,240 --> 00:07:27,880 Speaker 1: year career down the toilet, because she's basically going to 137 00:07:27,920 --> 00:07:30,640 Speaker 1: be unhirable because she's what do they call it, breaking 138 00:07:30,680 --> 00:07:34,360 Speaker 1: the whatever, the wall, the fourth wall. She's telling you 139 00:07:34,400 --> 00:07:36,560 Speaker 1: how things are working in the state House, and if 140 00:07:36,600 --> 00:07:38,640 Speaker 1: somebody else is going to be thinking about hiring her, 141 00:07:38,800 --> 00:07:40,679 Speaker 1: in their mind, they're going to say, that's the person 142 00:07:40,760 --> 00:07:42,320 Speaker 1: that talked about Micah. 143 00:07:42,360 --> 00:07:44,520 Speaker 2: Do we want them in this office? That is how 144 00:07:44,600 --> 00:07:46,360 Speaker 2: strongly she feels about this. 145 00:07:48,120 --> 00:07:50,360 Speaker 3: You have to wonder if she'd be considered a whistleblower 146 00:07:51,040 --> 00:07:52,640 Speaker 3: and was she retaliated against. 147 00:07:53,320 --> 00:07:58,640 Speaker 1: So now is Micah saying that Aaron's lying and Labianco's lying? 148 00:07:59,200 --> 00:08:02,120 Speaker 1: Like what point does it become him? Why is it 149 00:08:02,160 --> 00:08:05,120 Speaker 1: always everybody else but him? Are we to believe that 150 00:08:05,360 --> 00:08:08,680 Speaker 1: Aaron and Labianco and then me and Abdul and a 151 00:08:08,760 --> 00:08:10,920 Speaker 1: Capitol chronicle in the indies, like we're all in some 152 00:08:11,320 --> 00:08:17,280 Speaker 1: conspiracy cabal together against this dude? When does it become 153 00:08:17,440 --> 00:08:20,000 Speaker 1: Micah who's not telling the truth to the people who 154 00:08:20,560 --> 00:08:24,120 Speaker 1: refuse to believe it? When does it become Micah beck 155 00:08:24,160 --> 00:08:27,680 Speaker 1: With who's not telling the truth. Why would Labianco lie 156 00:08:27,720 --> 00:08:30,640 Speaker 1: about something like this? Why would Aaron lie about all 157 00:08:30,640 --> 00:08:33,240 Speaker 1: of it? When does it become Micah beck With And 158 00:08:33,280 --> 00:08:35,280 Speaker 1: the reason it matters to you if you're driving down 159 00:08:35,320 --> 00:08:37,520 Speaker 1: the road is this is the number two person in 160 00:08:37,559 --> 00:08:40,520 Speaker 1: the state of Indiana. If Heaven forbid something were to 161 00:08:40,520 --> 00:08:43,720 Speaker 1: happen to Mike Braun, Micah Beckworth would be in charge 162 00:08:43,720 --> 00:08:46,120 Speaker 1: of the state of Indiana. And if this guy will 163 00:08:46,160 --> 00:08:47,360 Speaker 1: lie to you about this. 164 00:08:47,840 --> 00:08:53,800 Speaker 2: Little relatively ridiculous stuff, what else is he lying to 165 00:08:53,840 --> 00:08:54,560 Speaker 2: you about? 166 00:08:54,960 --> 00:08:57,720 Speaker 3: Did you see that there was a call for his 167 00:08:57,800 --> 00:09:00,240 Speaker 3: resignation by Lennon may or Mauntjen. 168 00:09:01,120 --> 00:09:05,920 Speaker 1: I did, well, now he said, if it's true, and look, 169 00:09:05,960 --> 00:09:09,960 Speaker 1: he's absolutely right. This is this is if And look, 170 00:09:10,000 --> 00:09:12,360 Speaker 1: I don't know what law enforcement is actually looking into. 171 00:09:12,520 --> 00:09:15,160 Speaker 1: I have heard certain things. Obviously I'm not involved in it. 172 00:09:15,679 --> 00:09:18,760 Speaker 1: I'm sure it'll all come out eventually. But if they 173 00:09:18,880 --> 00:09:25,640 Speaker 1: can prove Aaron's story to certain extents, it will mean 174 00:09:25,679 --> 00:09:28,360 Speaker 1: that Micah did is indeed directly lying to everybody. 175 00:09:29,240 --> 00:09:32,400 Speaker 3: I think proving that is going to be a heavy lift. 176 00:09:32,480 --> 00:09:34,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, and I don't and we hear all that they're 177 00:09:34,320 --> 00:09:36,920 Speaker 1: looking into other stuff. Don't know the point of this, though, 178 00:09:37,040 --> 00:09:40,360 Speaker 1: is all of these people keep telling a story different 179 00:09:40,400 --> 00:09:43,480 Speaker 1: from him. He's the one in the equation that doesn't 180 00:09:43,480 --> 00:09:46,160 Speaker 1: match the story of everyone else. So either it's a 181 00:09:46,240 --> 00:09:48,079 Speaker 1: giant conspiracy and everybody's out to. 182 00:09:48,000 --> 00:09:49,560 Speaker 2: Get him, or he's lying. 183 00:09:50,000 --> 00:09:52,680 Speaker 1: And how many times, Casey, did we catch him lying 184 00:09:53,280 --> 00:09:57,560 Speaker 1: about the car, about the budget, about Diego, about going 185 00:09:57,600 --> 00:10:00,280 Speaker 1: to Game three of the NBA Finals with a high 186 00:10:00,320 --> 00:10:05,720 Speaker 1: profile known felon. What's the threat in this equation, which 187 00:10:05,760 --> 00:10:09,240 Speaker 1: is Micah Beckwith was caught not telling the truth or 188 00:10:09,280 --> 00:10:12,400 Speaker 1: at least statements that were inconsistent with the facts as 189 00:10:12,440 --> 00:10:13,080 Speaker 1: they were known. 190 00:10:13,880 --> 00:10:15,320 Speaker 2: You're listening to Kettle and Casey. 191 00:10:15,360 --> 00:10:17,160 Speaker 3: It is ninety three WYBC. 192 00:10:24,120 --> 00:10:25,959 Speaker 2: All right, So there was a rally at the state 193 00:10:26,000 --> 00:10:28,839 Speaker 2: House yesterday. Yeah, Pete Buddha Jude showed up. 194 00:10:29,760 --> 00:10:32,600 Speaker 3: He accused Republicans of changing rules out of fear of 195 00:10:32,640 --> 00:10:35,439 Speaker 3: losing elections due to unpopular policies. 196 00:10:36,000 --> 00:10:40,640 Speaker 1: So this was related to the redistricting that we can't 197 00:10:40,640 --> 00:10:41,920 Speaker 1: get a coherent story on. 198 00:10:43,040 --> 00:10:43,360 Speaker 2: Now. 199 00:10:43,480 --> 00:10:45,480 Speaker 1: They're all over the map. Depends on who you talk 200 00:10:45,559 --> 00:10:47,920 Speaker 1: to about whether they have the votes to do this 201 00:10:48,040 --> 00:10:51,280 Speaker 1: or not. One would think they don't feel real secure 202 00:10:51,320 --> 00:10:53,800 Speaker 1: about it based on the governor alluding that it would 203 00:10:53,800 --> 00:10:57,240 Speaker 1: happen in November. If it does happen, you'd think if 204 00:10:57,240 --> 00:11:00,960 Speaker 1: they had the fifty plus one in the House slocked down. 205 00:11:00,760 --> 00:11:03,599 Speaker 2: In the what do they need? They need twenty. 206 00:11:03,240 --> 00:11:06,480 Speaker 1: Five plus the lieutenant governor would break a tie in 207 00:11:06,520 --> 00:11:11,240 Speaker 1: the Senate, that they would be sprinting to get that done. 208 00:11:12,200 --> 00:11:14,360 Speaker 1: But I don't think they feel like they're there yet. 209 00:11:14,400 --> 00:11:17,559 Speaker 1: And I think that's an a credit to the people 210 00:11:17,600 --> 00:11:19,760 Speaker 1: the state of Indiana, who are first of all, they 211 00:11:19,800 --> 00:11:24,320 Speaker 1: don't have enthusiasm for it. If they do it, it 212 00:11:24,320 --> 00:11:27,440 Speaker 1: will be solely out of fear of alienating Donald Trump. 213 00:11:28,440 --> 00:11:30,200 Speaker 1: Is that really how you want to be governed? Is 214 00:11:30,200 --> 00:11:32,360 Speaker 1: that how you want your state to govern? Doing something 215 00:11:32,400 --> 00:11:34,760 Speaker 1: they don't even believe in and there's no enthusiasm for it, 216 00:11:34,760 --> 00:11:37,160 Speaker 1: but we're worried Donald Trump's going to be mad at us. 217 00:11:37,280 --> 00:11:40,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, Braun wore that non compliance may hurt Indiana is 218 00:11:40,040 --> 00:11:43,600 Speaker 3: standing with the Trump administration. And to me, that is 219 00:11:43,640 --> 00:11:47,120 Speaker 3: a top down approach and that is the exact opposite 220 00:11:47,240 --> 00:11:48,920 Speaker 3: of how you are supposed to govern. 221 00:11:49,920 --> 00:11:50,199 Speaker 2: Now. 222 00:11:50,240 --> 00:11:53,840 Speaker 1: They had a good crowd yesterday. It looked like and 223 00:11:54,080 --> 00:11:56,040 Speaker 1: it looked like the state you know, it's easy to. 224 00:11:56,000 --> 00:11:58,040 Speaker 3: Get and they said, thousands of people showed up, and 225 00:11:58,160 --> 00:12:00,320 Speaker 3: I just want to you know, the report and when 226 00:12:00,360 --> 00:12:02,880 Speaker 3: we had the property tax rally and we know there 227 00:12:02,920 --> 00:12:05,600 Speaker 3: were a thousand people there, it kept being reported of 228 00:12:06,240 --> 00:12:08,880 Speaker 3: hundreds smattering a couple. 229 00:12:08,640 --> 00:12:11,280 Speaker 2: Of state pleas. Right now there was a thousand people. Yeah, 230 00:12:13,200 --> 00:12:15,280 Speaker 2: which you good on them. I'm glad people went. 231 00:12:16,000 --> 00:12:20,599 Speaker 1: My My question on this is how do you motivate 232 00:12:20,760 --> 00:12:25,440 Speaker 1: those people into action from the lawmakers because it was. 233 00:12:27,760 --> 00:12:30,800 Speaker 2: A hyper partisan event. 234 00:12:31,520 --> 00:12:34,200 Speaker 1: It was the Democrats doing the thing right, it was 235 00:12:34,240 --> 00:12:35,520 Speaker 1: the all Democrat lawmakers. 236 00:12:35,520 --> 00:12:37,000 Speaker 2: I believe it was buddhaj Edge. 237 00:12:37,360 --> 00:12:39,080 Speaker 1: We reached out to them and said, hey, look, we 238 00:12:39,120 --> 00:12:42,400 Speaker 1: agree with you guys on this and we'll promote it 239 00:12:42,440 --> 00:12:45,120 Speaker 1: for you. And the Democrat guy was very nice. He responded, said, hey, 240 00:12:45,160 --> 00:12:47,320 Speaker 1: I've passed this along, told them they should do it. 241 00:12:47,480 --> 00:12:51,600 Speaker 1: Didn't anything back. You can't in an all republican state 242 00:12:52,640 --> 00:12:57,280 Speaker 1: get your desired result unless you motivate and move with people. Now, 243 00:12:57,280 --> 00:12:59,240 Speaker 1: maybe I missed, maybe there were, but the names I 244 00:12:59,240 --> 00:13:01,280 Speaker 1: saw were all demo crats that were listed as being 245 00:13:01,280 --> 00:13:03,800 Speaker 1: a part of that. And I get that they brought 246 00:13:03,800 --> 00:13:06,160 Speaker 1: Buddha Judge down because he's a name, and they wanted 247 00:13:06,200 --> 00:13:08,000 Speaker 1: media attention and they wanted to get people there. 248 00:13:08,920 --> 00:13:12,320 Speaker 2: He is not moving anything in this state. Pete bodhaj Edge. 249 00:13:12,640 --> 00:13:13,560 Speaker 2: He left the state. 250 00:13:13,880 --> 00:13:15,760 Speaker 1: You know, he won a local election in the state. 251 00:13:15,800 --> 00:13:18,720 Speaker 1: When he ran for state wide obviously got smoked. He's 252 00:13:18,800 --> 00:13:25,000 Speaker 1: not this beloved figure now again, national media attention, fine, whatever, 253 00:13:25,880 --> 00:13:29,000 Speaker 1: But when you make these events in which you need 254 00:13:29,040 --> 00:13:35,520 Speaker 1: the other side to win hyperpartisan, you're not really accomplishing 255 00:13:35,559 --> 00:13:38,160 Speaker 1: anything other than media attention that you had a hyperpartisan 256 00:13:38,200 --> 00:13:40,040 Speaker 1: event at the Indiana State House. 257 00:13:40,760 --> 00:13:42,720 Speaker 3: So one of the things that Buddha Judge said was 258 00:13:42,760 --> 00:13:46,640 Speaker 3: that cheaters never win in the end. Here's a snippet 259 00:13:46,640 --> 00:13:48,000 Speaker 3: of him at the state House. 260 00:13:48,240 --> 00:13:50,320 Speaker 2: When you're mayor, you got to go in, get work done, 261 00:13:50,480 --> 00:13:51,479 Speaker 2: and stand. 262 00:13:51,080 --> 00:13:55,480 Speaker 4: Before everybody in an election and be judged on your results. 263 00:13:55,720 --> 00:13:58,280 Speaker 2: And that is how every election is supposed to work 264 00:13:58,320 --> 00:13:59,560 Speaker 2: in the United States of America. 265 00:14:00,080 --> 00:14:04,840 Speaker 5: Here, because the Indiana Republicans are being pressured by Washington 266 00:14:04,920 --> 00:14:07,120 Speaker 5: Republicans to do something. 267 00:14:06,760 --> 00:14:09,320 Speaker 2: That they know in their hearts is wrong. 268 00:14:10,360 --> 00:14:13,439 Speaker 1: Got a promise this guy on the The problem with 269 00:14:13,520 --> 00:14:15,320 Speaker 1: that is he don't live in Indiana anymore. 270 00:14:15,360 --> 00:14:17,800 Speaker 3: Correct, He lives in Traverse City, I mean. 271 00:14:17,840 --> 00:14:20,400 Speaker 1: And the Republicans were hitting him on that, which is, 272 00:14:20,680 --> 00:14:22,440 Speaker 1: you don't leave in live in our state. You cared 273 00:14:22,480 --> 00:14:25,240 Speaker 1: so a little about Indiana, you left for largely perceived 274 00:14:25,280 --> 00:14:29,280 Speaker 1: political purposes, and so people kind of go, well, the 275 00:14:29,280 --> 00:14:31,040 Speaker 1: best you could do is some guy who when he 276 00:14:31,120 --> 00:14:34,440 Speaker 1: ran for state white office got completely smoked and ran 277 00:14:34,520 --> 00:14:39,080 Speaker 1: South Bend into the ground and fled the state. Probably 278 00:14:39,080 --> 00:14:43,560 Speaker 1: not the best guy to be your spokesperson for policy 279 00:14:43,600 --> 00:14:46,160 Speaker 1: that'll move the Republicans, he said. 280 00:14:46,160 --> 00:14:51,040 Speaker 3: The GOP lawmakers are avoiding accountability, and he was urging 281 00:14:51,040 --> 00:14:56,080 Speaker 3: everybody to mobilize their conservative friends and family to oppose 282 00:14:56,120 --> 00:14:56,560 Speaker 3: the plan. 283 00:14:58,240 --> 00:15:00,520 Speaker 1: I wonder it would be fascinating to be able to 284 00:15:00,560 --> 00:15:03,480 Speaker 1: sit down with the Flanders boys, Rod Bray, the pro 285 00:15:03,560 --> 00:15:05,400 Speaker 1: tim of the Senate, and Todd Houston, the Speaker of 286 00:15:05,400 --> 00:15:06,960 Speaker 1: the House, like if you could hook them up to 287 00:15:07,000 --> 00:15:10,200 Speaker 1: some sort of truth serum and go how miserable has 288 00:15:10,240 --> 00:15:13,720 Speaker 1: this made you? Because they clearly don't want it. There's 289 00:15:13,800 --> 00:15:18,120 Speaker 1: no win for them. They don't give two you know 290 00:15:18,160 --> 00:15:21,560 Speaker 1: what about what happens in Washington, DC, because they run 291 00:15:21,600 --> 00:15:26,960 Speaker 1: the Indiana General Assembly and the only ramification for them 292 00:15:27,200 --> 00:15:29,440 Speaker 1: is negative, which is there are going to be a 293 00:15:29,440 --> 00:15:30,840 Speaker 1: bunch of Republicans. They are going to show up to 294 00:15:30,880 --> 00:15:34,560 Speaker 1: vote because you readistricted. But there could potentially be a 295 00:15:34,560 --> 00:15:36,960 Speaker 1: bunch of people who show up to vote against you 296 00:15:37,240 --> 00:15:41,640 Speaker 1: because you did this. And eventually, you know, I had 297 00:15:41,640 --> 00:15:45,840 Speaker 1: this conversation yesterday with somebody, and we may be able 298 00:15:45,880 --> 00:15:47,360 Speaker 1: to talk more about this next week. 299 00:15:47,400 --> 00:15:49,320 Speaker 2: We'll see how the cookie crumbles on this. 300 00:15:49,720 --> 00:15:54,480 Speaker 1: But this is a young person who's running for public office, 301 00:15:54,640 --> 00:15:58,480 Speaker 1: and they talked with me about alienating people inside the 302 00:15:58,560 --> 00:16:01,840 Speaker 1: establishment of their county. And what I told this person 303 00:16:01,920 --> 00:16:04,880 Speaker 1: because they're friends with me, and they're like, these people 304 00:16:04,920 --> 00:16:05,480 Speaker 1: hate you. 305 00:16:05,480 --> 00:16:09,240 Speaker 2: And like they just pitch all the time. 306 00:16:09,720 --> 00:16:11,200 Speaker 1: And I told him, I said, look, you can do 307 00:16:11,280 --> 00:16:13,960 Speaker 1: whatever you want to do. But I said, those people 308 00:16:14,560 --> 00:16:18,560 Speaker 1: all already have their minds made up about whether they're 309 00:16:18,560 --> 00:16:20,240 Speaker 1: going to support you or not based on whether they 310 00:16:20,360 --> 00:16:22,640 Speaker 1: like the guy you're running against or not. You're not 311 00:16:22,680 --> 00:16:25,280 Speaker 1: going to motivate them one way or another based on 312 00:16:25,360 --> 00:16:27,920 Speaker 1: you being a friend with me or publicly associating with 313 00:16:28,000 --> 00:16:31,320 Speaker 1: me or whatever. Now you and I'll be friends no 314 00:16:31,360 --> 00:16:35,440 Speaker 1: matter what. But the mistake people make, I said, you 315 00:16:35,480 --> 00:16:39,120 Speaker 1: have all of these potential customers that don't normally vote 316 00:16:39,120 --> 00:16:41,800 Speaker 1: that you can go get that because the party structure 317 00:16:41,840 --> 00:16:44,440 Speaker 1: is lazy, they're not going to reach out to those people. 318 00:16:44,600 --> 00:16:48,320 Speaker 1: There's all these potential customers out there that you can reach, 319 00:16:48,360 --> 00:16:50,520 Speaker 1: and you're so focused on this mistake people make who 320 00:16:50,560 --> 00:16:53,800 Speaker 1: are outside people who run. You're so focused on the inside, 321 00:16:53,840 --> 00:16:56,200 Speaker 1: people who already have their mind made up on what 322 00:16:56,200 --> 00:16:59,040 Speaker 1: they're doing based on whether they like that guy or not. 323 00:16:59,280 --> 00:17:05,919 Speaker 1: And I think this is another example of just how 324 00:17:06,960 --> 00:17:12,080 Speaker 1: scummy the system is. Where you have two guys in 325 00:17:12,160 --> 00:17:14,920 Speaker 1: Bray and Houston who don't want any part of this. 326 00:17:15,480 --> 00:17:17,119 Speaker 1: They know it's bad, they know it'll be bad for 327 00:17:17,160 --> 00:17:19,159 Speaker 1: them politically or the long term. They know it'll be 328 00:17:19,160 --> 00:17:22,440 Speaker 1: bad for them from an election standpoint. It can't be good. 329 00:17:22,560 --> 00:17:24,840 Speaker 1: Let's just say that, and they could put a stop 330 00:17:24,880 --> 00:17:26,960 Speaker 1: to this tomorrow. If those two guys would grow a 331 00:17:27,000 --> 00:17:30,640 Speaker 1: pair and just stand up and say we're done here, 332 00:17:30,640 --> 00:17:31,240 Speaker 1: We're not doing this. 333 00:17:31,280 --> 00:17:32,760 Speaker 2: If Donald Trump wants to hold. 334 00:17:32,520 --> 00:17:35,480 Speaker 1: Money from us, if the Republicans in Washington want to 335 00:17:35,480 --> 00:17:37,960 Speaker 1: hold money from us, go for it. See how that 336 00:17:38,000 --> 00:17:41,160 Speaker 1: works out for you. Show how just petty and rotten 337 00:17:41,240 --> 00:17:44,119 Speaker 1: you are. That a super red state that is basically 338 00:17:44,520 --> 00:17:47,320 Speaker 1: for the past eight years, done every bidding and call 339 00:17:47,359 --> 00:17:49,760 Speaker 1: of Donald Trump. Go ahead and say you're gonna hold 340 00:17:49,760 --> 00:17:52,360 Speaker 1: money from us because we did what's right for our constituents. 341 00:17:52,520 --> 00:17:54,960 Speaker 1: But they won't do that. These people continually live in fear, 342 00:17:55,040 --> 00:17:56,600 Speaker 1: just like this guy's living in fear. People don't like 343 00:17:56,680 --> 00:17:58,440 Speaker 1: him anway, they're gonna do what they're gonna do. People 344 00:17:58,480 --> 00:18:01,560 Speaker 1: have got to stand up and grow a pair and 345 00:18:01,720 --> 00:18:05,560 Speaker 1: do what's right versus what's easy. And until that starts happening, 346 00:18:05,640 --> 00:18:08,119 Speaker 1: we're just gonna get horrible public policy like this. 347 00:18:08,520 --> 00:18:11,639 Speaker 3: Voting rights groups have vowed to sue if new maps 348 00:18:11,680 --> 00:18:15,600 Speaker 3: are pasted. Pete Boudha Judge also being featured in other 349 00:18:15,720 --> 00:18:19,600 Speaker 3: news and that is Kamala Harris's new book, her memoir, 350 00:18:19,760 --> 00:18:21,040 Speaker 3: One hundred and seven Days. 351 00:18:21,440 --> 00:18:22,000 Speaker 2: In it, she. 352 00:18:22,359 --> 00:18:25,119 Speaker 3: Said that Pete Boudha Judge was her first choice for 353 00:18:25,240 --> 00:18:28,480 Speaker 3: running mate in twenty four, but she felt it was 354 00:18:28,560 --> 00:18:31,480 Speaker 3: too big of a risk, it was too heavy of 355 00:18:31,520 --> 00:18:32,400 Speaker 3: a lift. 356 00:18:32,680 --> 00:18:34,080 Speaker 2: Okay, let's take a break. 357 00:18:34,440 --> 00:18:37,879 Speaker 1: Somebody surprising said something very nice about me yesterday, and 358 00:18:37,920 --> 00:18:39,199 Speaker 1: you know, I'm very humble. 359 00:18:39,440 --> 00:18:42,200 Speaker 3: And somebody else said, knock nice stuff. 360 00:18:42,560 --> 00:18:44,800 Speaker 2: You're so excited about that. Casey's got to get the 361 00:18:44,840 --> 00:18:45,879 Speaker 2: bell out for that one. 362 00:18:46,119 --> 00:18:47,600 Speaker 1: But I did want to read this because you know, 363 00:18:47,720 --> 00:18:50,400 Speaker 1: I'm very humble, and you were adamant that we read 364 00:18:50,480 --> 00:18:52,760 Speaker 1: what this person said, and so I said, okay, it 365 00:18:52,760 --> 00:18:53,960 Speaker 1: goes against my better judgment. 366 00:18:54,119 --> 00:18:56,320 Speaker 2: Well, Alost, we got some great audio from Joe Rogan. 367 00:18:56,880 --> 00:19:00,359 Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, that's coming up. It's ninety three WIBC. 368 00:19:05,720 --> 00:19:09,720 Speaker 1: Okay, Casey, Okay, okay, okay, okay, we'll talk about somebody 369 00:19:09,800 --> 00:19:11,000 Speaker 1: saying something very nice about me. 370 00:19:11,520 --> 00:19:13,800 Speaker 2: Yeah. I don't want to do it. It doesn't happen often. Huh. 371 00:19:13,800 --> 00:19:15,600 Speaker 2: I didn't want to do it, but you were adamant. 372 00:19:15,760 --> 00:19:17,439 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, did we do this? 373 00:19:17,600 --> 00:19:18,000 Speaker 4: Uh huh. 374 00:19:18,119 --> 00:19:21,920 Speaker 2: Kennel and Casey show Rob Casey's here. Okay. 375 00:19:21,920 --> 00:19:24,840 Speaker 1: Before we read this, though, I want to play this 376 00:19:24,880 --> 00:19:27,000 Speaker 1: chip from clip from Joe Rogan that you found. 377 00:19:27,119 --> 00:19:29,119 Speaker 2: Yeah. Now, I think it's a little bit older. I 378 00:19:29,200 --> 00:19:29,560 Speaker 2: do too. 379 00:19:29,960 --> 00:19:32,320 Speaker 3: It just came across my feed yesterday and I was like, 380 00:19:32,440 --> 00:19:35,119 Speaker 3: wait what and I went back and listened. 381 00:19:35,160 --> 00:19:38,800 Speaker 2: I thought, well, this is us, Yeah, this is Kennelly Casey. 382 00:19:38,880 --> 00:19:42,040 Speaker 1: It sort of explains a lot of what this person 383 00:19:42,320 --> 00:19:44,639 Speaker 1: put in this this tweet that we'll read here in 384 00:19:44,680 --> 00:19:47,360 Speaker 1: a second. But yeah, This is Rogan talking about both 385 00:19:47,400 --> 00:19:50,840 Speaker 1: of the political parties, and you're right it if it 386 00:19:50,840 --> 00:19:51,520 Speaker 1: really hits home. 387 00:19:52,040 --> 00:19:54,439 Speaker 4: I don't like either one of these parties. Yeah, I 388 00:19:54,480 --> 00:19:58,400 Speaker 4: don't think. I don't think they there's a solution that's correct. 389 00:19:58,560 --> 00:20:01,840 Speaker 4: I think you have overcorrect and after overcorrection, I think 390 00:20:01,880 --> 00:20:03,879 Speaker 4: you have the country goes one way and then it 391 00:20:04,119 --> 00:20:07,600 Speaker 4: swings hard the other way. Yeah, America's back, and then 392 00:20:07,800 --> 00:20:10,720 Speaker 4: it swings the other way. Now we're the new America, 393 00:20:10,840 --> 00:20:13,760 Speaker 4: and America is this way. It's like everyone's so tribal, 394 00:20:13,840 --> 00:20:16,639 Speaker 4: and everyone's so locked into their idea that they're the 395 00:20:16,680 --> 00:20:19,000 Speaker 4: good guys and these are the bad guys. We got 396 00:20:19,000 --> 00:20:20,439 Speaker 4: to get him back, and we're going to get him 397 00:20:20,440 --> 00:20:21,119 Speaker 4: at the midterms. 398 00:20:21,119 --> 00:20:22,879 Speaker 2: We're gonna get him in the next election. It's like 399 00:20:25,960 --> 00:20:27,040 Speaker 2: success perfect. 400 00:20:29,440 --> 00:20:31,679 Speaker 3: But he said he thinks people are like these are 401 00:20:31,680 --> 00:20:33,560 Speaker 3: the good guys, these are the bad guys. I think 402 00:20:33,600 --> 00:20:35,600 Speaker 3: more and more people are way up to the fact 403 00:20:35,600 --> 00:20:37,880 Speaker 3: that it's not a white hat, black hat thing. It's 404 00:20:37,920 --> 00:20:41,480 Speaker 3: not team sport. It's the people want to be governed 405 00:20:42,640 --> 00:20:46,480 Speaker 3: by representation that has the people in mind, not their power. 406 00:20:46,800 --> 00:20:49,400 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, and look, I've been here nine years now 407 00:20:49,920 --> 00:20:55,400 Speaker 1: and the change that I have seen in our listening 408 00:20:55,440 --> 00:20:58,280 Speaker 1: audience since I got here. I mean, they were ready 409 00:20:58,320 --> 00:21:00,679 Speaker 1: to kill me when I first showed up here as 410 00:21:00,680 --> 00:21:03,800 Speaker 1: the fill in guy, like the stuff I was saying, 411 00:21:03,800 --> 00:21:06,119 Speaker 1: which is the same stuff I'm saying now, because I 412 00:21:06,160 --> 00:21:08,720 Speaker 1: saw it all from the inside. And I think that's 413 00:21:08,760 --> 00:21:10,600 Speaker 1: part of it is I've been proven right so long 414 00:21:10,640 --> 00:21:14,040 Speaker 1: that people are like, well, okay, right, but you not 415 00:21:14,160 --> 00:21:16,080 Speaker 1: many people end up here or something like this who 416 00:21:16,119 --> 00:21:17,640 Speaker 1: came from the inside. 417 00:21:17,760 --> 00:21:19,040 Speaker 2: I worked in state government. 418 00:21:19,080 --> 00:21:23,159 Speaker 1: I was an elected person, so I knew with a 419 00:21:23,280 --> 00:21:28,640 Speaker 1: great detail how rotten the whole system itself was, and 420 00:21:28,680 --> 00:21:31,800 Speaker 1: that hey, when Republicans control everything, if you're going to 421 00:21:31,840 --> 00:21:33,480 Speaker 1: talk about rotten the system is, you have to talk 422 00:21:33,480 --> 00:21:35,960 Speaker 1: about rotten the Republicans are. And it's that thing we 423 00:21:36,000 --> 00:21:39,720 Speaker 1: talked about earlier where people get so emotionally invested for 424 00:21:39,800 --> 00:21:43,440 Speaker 1: whatever reason in politics and politicians, which is weird because 425 00:21:43,440 --> 00:21:45,960 Speaker 1: they don't give a damn about you. That's what's always 426 00:21:45,960 --> 00:21:48,960 Speaker 1: blown my mind, Like I would watch these things unfold 427 00:21:49,160 --> 00:21:52,240 Speaker 1: and I'd be like, why are people so invested in 428 00:21:52,280 --> 00:21:53,240 Speaker 1: these politicians? 429 00:21:53,280 --> 00:21:56,680 Speaker 3: They don't care proximity to power at all. 430 00:21:57,560 --> 00:21:59,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess that's is that it or do they 431 00:22:00,000 --> 00:22:03,680 Speaker 1: genuinely believe is it? I wondered this for a long 432 00:22:03,720 --> 00:22:04,920 Speaker 1: time and what I kind of came up with. You 433 00:22:04,960 --> 00:22:07,720 Speaker 1: tell me if I'm way off on this is taking 434 00:22:09,160 --> 00:22:13,480 Speaker 1: accountability and control of your own life is hard because 435 00:22:13,520 --> 00:22:18,080 Speaker 1: that's work, and so it's kind of easier to just 436 00:22:18,119 --> 00:22:21,359 Speaker 1: put your faith in someone else and hope they. 437 00:22:21,320 --> 00:22:23,280 Speaker 2: Solve it for you or blame someone else. 438 00:22:23,440 --> 00:22:27,719 Speaker 1: Well that's my point, right, because the the emotional investment 439 00:22:27,720 --> 00:22:32,600 Speaker 1: of these people who don't care at all, And like, 440 00:22:32,720 --> 00:22:34,679 Speaker 1: I know people say that and they kind of like, like, 441 00:22:35,520 --> 00:22:37,920 Speaker 1: I don't know if they they can't appreciate the magnitude 442 00:22:37,920 --> 00:22:39,440 Speaker 1: which I'm saying this, Like when I was in these 443 00:22:39,520 --> 00:22:43,920 Speaker 1: closed door meetings and these conversations, the disdain that elected 444 00:22:43,960 --> 00:22:47,480 Speaker 1: officials have for the public, Like I would just sit 445 00:22:47,520 --> 00:22:50,399 Speaker 1: there and my jaw would drop and I had to 446 00:22:50,440 --> 00:22:52,240 Speaker 1: close it quickly so nobody saw me. 447 00:22:52,280 --> 00:22:54,480 Speaker 2: And it was like, these are the people running our state. 448 00:22:54,880 --> 00:22:57,359 Speaker 3: Like when the governor calls you a human Petri dish, 449 00:22:57,960 --> 00:22:58,800 Speaker 3: Yeah the case they. 450 00:22:58,720 --> 00:23:01,159 Speaker 1: Screw up and say it, But yeah, what do we do? 451 00:23:01,160 --> 00:23:03,840 Speaker 1: We keep electing Republicans. Nobody stood up to hulkm when 452 00:23:03,880 --> 00:23:07,159 Speaker 1: he said that Nobody fought back against Hulkomb through all 453 00:23:07,160 --> 00:23:08,080 Speaker 1: the COVID stuff. 454 00:23:08,400 --> 00:23:10,560 Speaker 2: Nobody fought back out of HULKM when he when he 455 00:23:10,640 --> 00:23:11,040 Speaker 2: when he. 456 00:23:10,960 --> 00:23:14,080 Speaker 1: Called you a human, Petrie Dish, but called Malik Muhammad 457 00:23:14,160 --> 00:23:17,119 Speaker 1: and and you know who's now in jail in Portland. 458 00:23:17,200 --> 00:23:19,480 Speaker 1: I think he's still in jail for attempting to kill cops. 459 00:23:20,760 --> 00:23:21,960 Speaker 1: You know, I did a meet and greet with him 460 00:23:21,960 --> 00:23:25,439 Speaker 1: and called those people noble. Nobody stood up to HULKM. 461 00:23:25,440 --> 00:23:28,520 Speaker 1: So the Republicans, that's them, that's their official policy position. 462 00:23:28,720 --> 00:23:31,840 Speaker 1: Malik Muhammad is noble. You're a human, Petrie Dish. Nobody 463 00:23:31,880 --> 00:23:34,680 Speaker 1: did anything. We keep investing in and electing the same, 464 00:23:35,200 --> 00:23:39,840 Speaker 1: the same people. And so that, you know, that brings 465 00:23:39,920 --> 00:23:44,120 Speaker 1: us to what James Briggs, calumnist for The Indie Star. 466 00:23:44,119 --> 00:23:49,600 Speaker 1: We've had Briggs on our show before. James Briggs and 467 00:23:49,640 --> 00:23:54,720 Speaker 1: I certainly don't agree on much as it relates to politics. 468 00:23:55,440 --> 00:23:58,360 Speaker 1: But he said this, He said Rob Kendall's career arc 469 00:23:59,000 --> 00:24:03,440 Speaker 1: is the most interesting thing going in Indianapolis media right now. 470 00:24:04,760 --> 00:24:07,920 Speaker 2: And hard to argue with that. He's right. 471 00:24:08,760 --> 00:24:11,720 Speaker 3: Did he mean it as a compliment, I don't. 472 00:24:11,960 --> 00:24:14,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think what he's saying is you look at 473 00:24:14,359 --> 00:24:17,600 Speaker 1: our look at our numbers that we do for a 474 00:24:17,680 --> 00:24:19,320 Speaker 1: midday radio show. 475 00:24:20,520 --> 00:24:25,480 Speaker 2: A spoken word, it's off the charts. And it's a 476 00:24:25,520 --> 00:24:26,040 Speaker 2: couple of things. 477 00:24:26,080 --> 00:24:27,320 Speaker 1: I was thinking about this last night, and you know 478 00:24:27,359 --> 00:24:29,000 Speaker 1: how I hate to think about some people saying nice 479 00:24:29,000 --> 00:24:31,280 Speaker 1: things about me, and it just it pains me. I 480 00:24:31,280 --> 00:24:34,400 Speaker 1: had to really focus and have a few moments to myself. 481 00:24:34,680 --> 00:24:35,639 Speaker 2: But it's a couple of things. 482 00:24:35,960 --> 00:24:38,760 Speaker 1: Number one, it's our audience, number one, and above all else, 483 00:24:38,800 --> 00:24:41,840 Speaker 1: it's the engagement of the audience that's willing to expand 484 00:24:41,880 --> 00:24:49,000 Speaker 1: the boundaries of their preconceived notions. And if you weren't that, 485 00:24:49,119 --> 00:24:51,280 Speaker 1: you being the audience, weren't that, we wouldn't exist because 486 00:24:51,280 --> 00:24:54,520 Speaker 1: we push it every day. We pushed the traditional boundaries 487 00:24:54,520 --> 00:24:57,320 Speaker 1: of talk radio. Good guys, bad guys, of white hat, 488 00:24:57,359 --> 00:24:59,959 Speaker 1: black hat. And we not only push those mattersies make 489 00:25:00,200 --> 00:25:01,680 Speaker 1: think in the process. A lot of people don't want 490 00:25:01,680 --> 00:25:04,240 Speaker 1: to do that. Thinking is hard, right. I just want 491 00:25:04,640 --> 00:25:06,760 Speaker 1: this is what I know or this is what I believe, 492 00:25:06,840 --> 00:25:07,800 Speaker 1: and you got to affirm that. 493 00:25:07,840 --> 00:25:10,840 Speaker 2: And if you don't affirm that, then I'm out. Yep. 494 00:25:11,680 --> 00:25:13,919 Speaker 1: We pushed that every single day because we believe in 495 00:25:13,960 --> 00:25:16,000 Speaker 1: you and you deliver with that, with the with the numbers, 496 00:25:16,040 --> 00:25:17,160 Speaker 1: you listen, you tune in. 497 00:25:19,119 --> 00:25:21,480 Speaker 2: But a part of it is too that. 498 00:25:23,040 --> 00:25:27,320 Speaker 1: I have a life experience that is different than any 499 00:25:27,320 --> 00:25:32,200 Speaker 1: other person in the media in this city. My origin story, 500 00:25:32,240 --> 00:25:35,040 Speaker 1: for lack of a better term, there's nobody else that 501 00:25:35,080 --> 00:25:39,400 Speaker 1: has it. I saw it from the inside and ran 502 00:25:39,560 --> 00:25:40,560 Speaker 1: from it because it. 503 00:25:40,480 --> 00:25:41,600 Speaker 2: Was so egregious. 504 00:25:42,119 --> 00:25:46,879 Speaker 1: Most people that enter politics that the goal becomes elevate, 505 00:25:47,080 --> 00:25:53,320 Speaker 1: elevate and stay. I went in totally naive and realized 506 00:25:53,359 --> 00:25:57,760 Speaker 1: how egregious the behavior was and said, this is unfixable 507 00:25:57,800 --> 00:26:02,080 Speaker 1: by any one individual. If I stay, I will fail 508 00:26:02,160 --> 00:26:04,840 Speaker 1: because one individual cannot fix this, and it will take 509 00:26:04,880 --> 00:26:09,400 Speaker 1: an army of people rejecting Republicans and Republican leadership in 510 00:26:09,440 --> 00:26:12,159 Speaker 1: this state. And somebody's got to awaken the people to 511 00:26:12,280 --> 00:26:16,000 Speaker 1: what's going on. And so as part of that, not 512 00:26:16,040 --> 00:26:19,200 Speaker 1: only do we have the knowledge and the life experience 513 00:26:19,240 --> 00:26:21,040 Speaker 1: to talk about these things that is totally different than 514 00:26:21,040 --> 00:26:25,679 Speaker 1: everybody else, but we're simply not bound by anything, and 515 00:26:25,720 --> 00:26:31,320 Speaker 1: there is no leverage. Politicians depend on leverage over everyone. 516 00:26:32,480 --> 00:26:36,000 Speaker 1: Everything is about leverage. Hey you go against me, I 517 00:26:36,040 --> 00:26:39,240 Speaker 1: don't get your project approved. Hey you go against me. 518 00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:43,920 Speaker 1: I don't appoint you to this board or commission when 519 00:26:43,920 --> 00:26:47,120 Speaker 1: they it's happening right now with Donald Trump. Mike Brown 520 00:26:47,160 --> 00:26:50,879 Speaker 1: admitted it. That's why he's doing redistricting, not because it's good, 521 00:26:50,960 --> 00:26:52,680 Speaker 1: not because it's right, not because it benefits you, because 522 00:26:52,680 --> 00:26:54,359 Speaker 1: he's worried about Donald Trump being mad at him and 523 00:26:54,600 --> 00:26:55,560 Speaker 1: him withholding money. 524 00:26:55,640 --> 00:26:57,120 Speaker 2: Well, we saw it locally. 525 00:26:59,080 --> 00:27:01,880 Speaker 3: It's Soliday yes, with utility Rake. 526 00:27:02,080 --> 00:27:04,359 Speaker 1: Yeah, the head of utilities in the house, threatening that 527 00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:07,560 Speaker 1: mayor up and portage over being critical of utility rates 528 00:27:07,600 --> 00:27:08,240 Speaker 1: in the IURC. 529 00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:10,600 Speaker 2: That's what they do. It's the mop it's the mafia. 530 00:27:11,520 --> 00:27:12,920 Speaker 2: This is how they exist. 531 00:27:13,160 --> 00:27:17,280 Speaker 1: It's always threats, it's always bullying, it's always leverage. And 532 00:27:17,359 --> 00:27:21,200 Speaker 1: so we have the freedom when we say we don't 533 00:27:21,240 --> 00:27:24,200 Speaker 1: want to be friends with you people, we don't want 534 00:27:24,240 --> 00:27:26,760 Speaker 1: to be liked by you people, because I know at your. 535 00:27:26,680 --> 00:27:28,520 Speaker 2: Core what you are, and I know how you operate. 536 00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:30,560 Speaker 1: And my life doesn't depend on if I get to 537 00:27:30,560 --> 00:27:33,760 Speaker 1: be a guest speaker somewhere, or if I get to 538 00:27:33,800 --> 00:27:35,639 Speaker 1: be the feature this or the feature of that, or 539 00:27:35,640 --> 00:27:37,159 Speaker 1: they lie to me and pretend to be my friend. 540 00:27:37,400 --> 00:27:41,800 Speaker 1: I have enough friends as long as Casey and my 541 00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:45,439 Speaker 1: wife and my parents like me. That's about all that 542 00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:48,119 Speaker 1: matters to me. So I appreciate him saying that, But 543 00:27:48,440 --> 00:27:52,119 Speaker 1: it comes out of not anything we're doing. That's nobody 544 00:27:52,119 --> 00:27:56,520 Speaker 1: else has the ability to do. It's because we just 545 00:27:56,520 --> 00:27:59,760 Speaker 1: don't want anything, and we don't want or need anything. 546 00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:02,720 Speaker 1: Then you have the ability to say things that are 547 00:28:02,720 --> 00:28:06,000 Speaker 1: interesting to people and they'll tune in because they're not 548 00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:08,880 Speaker 1: hearing it anywhere else. We could all be doing this, 549 00:28:09,119 --> 00:28:11,719 Speaker 1: every single person hearing our voice right now. Now they 550 00:28:11,720 --> 00:28:14,120 Speaker 1: don't have this platform in the sense of WIBC. There's 551 00:28:14,119 --> 00:28:18,320 Speaker 1: only so many shows. But we're not reinventing the wheel. 552 00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:22,960 Speaker 1: You can do this. You just have to not care 553 00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:24,840 Speaker 1: about the leverage people are going to try to exert 554 00:28:24,840 --> 00:28:27,080 Speaker 1: over you. And if you don't care about a project, 555 00:28:27,320 --> 00:28:29,480 Speaker 1: or you don't care about a payoff, or you don't 556 00:28:29,480 --> 00:28:32,520 Speaker 1: care about a border commission, we would get a lot 557 00:28:32,560 --> 00:28:34,320 Speaker 1: of stuff done a lot quicker. 558 00:28:35,640 --> 00:28:39,560 Speaker 3: You got something that was so nice On the other side, 559 00:28:39,760 --> 00:28:43,800 Speaker 3: speaking of not caring, Yeah, Casey, I go to a 560 00:28:43,840 --> 00:28:46,320 Speaker 3: little dinner theater here and I'm going to read this 561 00:28:46,440 --> 00:28:50,000 Speaker 3: email I got and Casey is gonna hit the bell 562 00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:51,479 Speaker 3: when it's words. 563 00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:54,400 Speaker 2: I can't say, it always comes from an anonymous name. 564 00:28:55,160 --> 00:28:58,640 Speaker 3: So you got that nice sentiment from James Bridges. Well, 565 00:28:58,840 --> 00:29:00,200 Speaker 3: here's the other side of it. 566 00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:06,840 Speaker 2: Yeah you ready? Oh yeah, here we go? Ready? 567 00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:07,960 Speaker 3: Yeah? 568 00:29:08,040 --> 00:29:08,560 Speaker 2: Are you sure? 569 00:29:08,760 --> 00:29:09,320 Speaker 3: Yeah? 570 00:29:09,640 --> 00:29:10,960 Speaker 2: This could be the end of our career if you 571 00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:12,840 Speaker 2: don't pull this off? Right? We got it? Okay? 572 00:29:13,280 --> 00:29:17,640 Speaker 1: Hey you sure you don't have a Your old man 573 00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:20,760 Speaker 1: needs to beat your pathetic. I guess this is what 574 00:29:20,840 --> 00:29:24,000 Speaker 1: happens when you grow up with no friends tool bag. 575 00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:26,680 Speaker 2: Fill in the blank. 576 00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:31,280 Speaker 3: Hammer's up next on ninety three WIBC. 577 00:29:37,800 --> 00:29:40,840 Speaker 2: You want a bed last night? And so did I. Boy. 578 00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:43,600 Speaker 2: Came down to the nitty gritty, didn't it. Man? 579 00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:47,200 Speaker 5: We had the over thirty point five on the Buffalo 580 00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:52,400 Speaker 5: Bill's team total and we needed every minute of that 581 00:29:52,520 --> 00:29:56,000 Speaker 5: clock last night to cash. But with about seven eight 582 00:29:56,080 --> 00:29:58,040 Speaker 5: seconds left, a big bought a boom. 583 00:29:58,120 --> 00:30:00,200 Speaker 1: Half of my trip to Arby's today brought to you 584 00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:03,360 Speaker 1: buy Jason Hammer's Thursday night football bet, as heard on 585 00:30:03,400 --> 00:30:05,280 Speaker 1: the Degenerates next Door Sports Betting podcast. 586 00:30:05,280 --> 00:30:08,080 Speaker 5: Congratulations and the kicker owed me that for shanking a 587 00:30:08,120 --> 00:30:09,680 Speaker 5: thirty nine yard or earlier. 588 00:30:09,760 --> 00:30:10,800 Speaker 2: That was about in the game. 589 00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:12,760 Speaker 5: And I believe I may have sent you some text 590 00:30:12,840 --> 00:30:17,320 Speaker 5: messages and heat of the moment, which maybe contained more 591 00:30:17,320 --> 00:30:19,560 Speaker 5: harsh language than the one you read earlier today. 592 00:30:19,760 --> 00:30:20,040 Speaker 2: Yeah. 593 00:30:20,120 --> 00:30:23,400 Speaker 1: They I would just be over there laughing, and my 594 00:30:23,440 --> 00:30:26,360 Speaker 1: wife's like, what's so funny, Hammer, what's he doing? 595 00:30:26,520 --> 00:30:29,400 Speaker 2: You don't want to know Channer and stuff. 596 00:30:30,680 --> 00:30:32,680 Speaker 1: Then she looks up at the TV. She was working, 597 00:30:32,720 --> 00:30:34,320 Speaker 1: so she had no idea. She sees there's a game 598 00:30:34,320 --> 00:30:36,360 Speaker 1: on it. She goes, are they footballing? 599 00:30:38,560 --> 00:30:40,680 Speaker 2: Yes, honey, they're footballing. They're footballing. 600 00:30:41,960 --> 00:30:44,680 Speaker 5: You and I are going to a wedding tomorrow, that's right, Yeah, Yeah, 601 00:30:44,680 --> 00:30:47,680 Speaker 5: that's right. And we've got a gift and we're going 602 00:30:47,720 --> 00:30:50,840 Speaker 5: to show up and have dinner and do all the 603 00:30:50,960 --> 00:30:51,960 Speaker 5: drinks and. 604 00:30:51,920 --> 00:30:54,200 Speaker 2: Hang out and meet people and just be. 605 00:30:54,320 --> 00:30:56,640 Speaker 1: Vince Vaughan and Owen Wilson. Yeah, we do this once 606 00:30:56,680 --> 00:30:59,440 Speaker 1: a year. We choose some lucky listener. 607 00:30:59,040 --> 00:31:00,640 Speaker 2: And we go to there, go to there. 608 00:31:00,920 --> 00:31:03,720 Speaker 1: I'm sure the wife is just just beside herself. I 609 00:31:03,720 --> 00:31:05,480 Speaker 1: think the husband alluded to that we're. 610 00:31:05,320 --> 00:31:07,720 Speaker 5: Gonna be in their wedding pictures and like, twenty years 611 00:31:07,760 --> 00:31:08,520 Speaker 5: from now, they're gonna be. 612 00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:11,520 Speaker 2: Like, who are these guys? The little guy in the 613 00:31:11,560 --> 00:31:13,880 Speaker 2: fat one? Who are these people? You remember? Rob? He 614 00:31:13,960 --> 00:31:19,360 Speaker 2: joined the circus. Oh, that's gonna be beautiful. Now. 615 00:31:19,360 --> 00:31:22,640 Speaker 1: We chose these people because they're beautiful people, and that's 616 00:31:22,680 --> 00:31:23,920 Speaker 1: why we did do that's why. 617 00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:28,280 Speaker 5: Well, we chose these people because they invited us, they 618 00:31:28,360 --> 00:31:30,320 Speaker 5: would have us, which is pretty. 619 00:31:30,120 --> 00:31:32,320 Speaker 2: Much a big part of the process here. So far, 620 00:31:32,400 --> 00:31:35,560 Speaker 2: we're getting a meal out of this. We're getting some 621 00:31:35,600 --> 00:31:36,600 Speaker 2: beverages out of this. 622 00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:41,120 Speaker 5: Yes' gonna have some conversation and uh, we'll do the stuff. Man, 623 00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:43,280 Speaker 5: Like I'm there to have a good time. I don't 624 00:31:43,320 --> 00:31:46,560 Speaker 5: know a single person there, but they'll know you. Damn 625 00:31:46,560 --> 00:31:48,160 Speaker 5: the torpedoes we're gonna get after it. 626 00:31:48,360 --> 00:31:49,160 Speaker 2: I thought that was awesome. 627 00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:51,200 Speaker 1: You and PROMPTU went down and spoke at the Charlie 628 00:31:51,240 --> 00:31:52,760 Speaker 1: Kirkman last night on the Circle. 629 00:31:53,160 --> 00:31:55,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, I didn't know what to expect from it. 630 00:31:56,320 --> 00:31:57,880 Speaker 2: We talked about it on the show yesterday. 631 00:31:57,920 --> 00:32:00,200 Speaker 5: I had no idea if it was gonna be two 632 00:32:00,280 --> 00:32:03,120 Speaker 5: hundred people or like five people with their cell phones, right, 633 00:32:03,120 --> 00:32:03,800 Speaker 5: I had no idea. 634 00:32:03,880 --> 00:32:04,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, So I. 635 00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:08,080 Speaker 5: Walked down there and it was probably anywhere from seventy 636 00:32:08,120 --> 00:32:11,880 Speaker 5: to one hundred people, and it was a nineteen year 637 00:32:11,920 --> 00:32:15,080 Speaker 5: old kid that kind of put this together. So it 638 00:32:15,120 --> 00:32:17,720 Speaker 5: was just social media, you know, word of mouth, because 639 00:32:17,720 --> 00:32:19,719 Speaker 5: people when I posted about it on social media, there 640 00:32:19,720 --> 00:32:21,800 Speaker 5: were so many folks that were like, I've never heard 641 00:32:21,800 --> 00:32:24,560 Speaker 5: about this. They did a crappy job marketing, and the 642 00:32:24,640 --> 00:32:27,160 Speaker 5: kid's heart was really in the right place. He wanted 643 00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:31,080 Speaker 5: to do something, so social media is what he chose to. 644 00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:32,400 Speaker 2: Put it out there on. 645 00:32:32,880 --> 00:32:38,560 Speaker 5: And honestly, it was very spiritual. It wasn't about politics 646 00:32:38,640 --> 00:32:42,320 Speaker 5: at all. There was no talk of politics. Really, it 647 00:32:42,480 --> 00:32:46,200 Speaker 5: was love people, love your family. This is what Charlie 648 00:32:46,200 --> 00:32:50,000 Speaker 5: would have wanted, you know, like have conversations, it's okay 649 00:32:50,040 --> 00:32:53,560 Speaker 5: to disagree with people, be a good husband, have kids, 650 00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:57,840 Speaker 5: you know, worship God. Those were the messages last night. 651 00:32:58,440 --> 00:33:03,520 Speaker 5: And unlike previous get togethers on Monument Circle, no bricks 652 00:33:03,560 --> 00:33:06,800 Speaker 5: were thrown, nobody started a riot, nobody got hurt. 653 00:33:06,960 --> 00:33:09,040 Speaker 1: It's just so weird seeing a photo of you without 654 00:33:09,040 --> 00:33:10,400 Speaker 1: a giant sandwich or. 655 00:33:10,360 --> 00:33:11,480 Speaker 2: A beer in your hand. 656 00:33:11,800 --> 00:33:14,280 Speaker 5: Well, I did have the shirt on that I wore yesterday, 657 00:33:14,280 --> 00:33:16,040 Speaker 5: which I believe was the shirt I wore your property 658 00:33:16,120 --> 00:33:20,360 Speaker 5: tax rally. It's the Green Hammer and Nigel show shirt 659 00:33:20,440 --> 00:33:22,560 Speaker 5: that says caution may contain alcohol. 660 00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:26,160 Speaker 1: And like, I had to do a bunch of people 661 00:33:26,200 --> 00:33:30,440 Speaker 1: to spiritual events, right right, And so I walk. 662 00:33:30,320 --> 00:33:32,560 Speaker 5: Up because they're just having anybody that wants to speak, 663 00:33:32,560 --> 00:33:33,680 Speaker 5: and like the nineteen year. 664 00:33:33,520 --> 00:33:35,080 Speaker 2: Old kid like Hoosiers. 665 00:33:35,240 --> 00:33:37,320 Speaker 5: Yeah, they were like, would you want to say something? 666 00:33:37,400 --> 00:33:39,080 Speaker 2: I was like, you know what kid, I got you? 667 00:33:39,080 --> 00:33:44,280 Speaker 2: You were a Jimmy chitwould I play coach days? But no? 668 00:33:44,360 --> 00:33:44,880 Speaker 2: What up there? 669 00:33:44,920 --> 00:33:47,640 Speaker 5: Ethan Hatcher was there as well from Saturday night on 670 00:33:47,680 --> 00:33:50,600 Speaker 5: the Circle. He walked up and it was just cool 671 00:33:50,600 --> 00:33:54,400 Speaker 5: to see so many young people. O'scare like doing the 672 00:33:54,480 --> 00:33:57,880 Speaker 5: right thing. Being involved kind of gives you hole for 673 00:33:57,960 --> 00:33:59,520 Speaker 5: the future, right it does. 674 00:34:00,280 --> 00:34:03,040 Speaker 1: Now, you got a big show coming up this afternoon, 675 00:34:03,080 --> 00:34:04,720 Speaker 1: because not only are you on the road, which I 676 00:34:04,720 --> 00:34:06,040 Speaker 1: want to give you a second to talk about, but 677 00:34:06,040 --> 00:34:08,000 Speaker 1: you're gonna have a big guest Liars r Us is. 678 00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:09,560 Speaker 2: Gonna be with you guys this afternoon. 679 00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:13,560 Speaker 5: That would be the Legitate Governor Micah Beckwith scheduled to join. 680 00:34:13,400 --> 00:34:14,920 Speaker 2: Us right after five o'clock. 681 00:34:15,200 --> 00:34:17,799 Speaker 5: So we'll crack the mic about five oh six and 682 00:34:18,200 --> 00:34:21,960 Speaker 5: we'll get his reaction to your big interview with Aaron 683 00:34:22,080 --> 00:34:25,640 Speaker 5: Sheridan and then the interview Abdul did like thirty seconds 684 00:34:25,680 --> 00:34:27,480 Speaker 5: after your interview with Aaron Sheridan. 685 00:34:27,600 --> 00:34:30,600 Speaker 2: They called coaching, try to steal your guests. Yeah, she's 686 00:34:30,680 --> 00:34:32,640 Speaker 2: walking down the hall. And then he puts it on 687 00:34:32,680 --> 00:34:35,319 Speaker 2: Indie Politics. It's not even on WIBC dot com. What 688 00:34:35,360 --> 00:34:37,600 Speaker 2: the hell? Which he did to record it here at WIBC, 689 00:34:37,800 --> 00:34:38,480 Speaker 2: of course he did. 690 00:34:38,640 --> 00:34:42,960 Speaker 5: Yeah, like literally thirty minutes after your thing airs, Abduell 691 00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:45,400 Speaker 5: puts one out too, My interview with Aaron Sheridan. 692 00:34:45,640 --> 00:34:47,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, right, I only have so many hours in the 693 00:34:47,640 --> 00:34:49,080 Speaker 1: day to be angry, and that just didn't make it 694 00:34:49,120 --> 00:34:49,720 Speaker 1: into the list. 695 00:34:52,160 --> 00:34:53,040 Speaker 2: But you're on the road. 696 00:34:53,239 --> 00:34:56,600 Speaker 5: Yeah, Grand Park this afternoon, the Big Events Center. It's 697 00:34:56,640 --> 00:35:00,440 Speaker 5: the suburban Indy Fall Home Show. Nice judge and I 698 00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:02,360 Speaker 5: have said, if they have a hot tub there with 699 00:35:02,480 --> 00:35:03,879 Speaker 5: water in it, I'm getting in. 700 00:35:03,960 --> 00:35:05,440 Speaker 2: You totally have everyone getting in. 701 00:35:05,640 --> 00:35:07,480 Speaker 1: When Nigel took his shirt off at that event we 702 00:35:07,520 --> 00:35:11,880 Speaker 1: did last year, debate party was right, Yes, yes it 703 00:35:11,960 --> 00:35:12,600 Speaker 1: was narrator. 704 00:35:13,239 --> 00:35:18,920 Speaker 2: Nigel was overserved. But it's beer sample. 705 00:35:18,719 --> 00:35:21,760 Speaker 5: Friday, and they've got multiple bars at the home show. 706 00:35:22,120 --> 00:35:23,959 Speaker 5: And we know this because we were there last year, 707 00:35:24,320 --> 00:35:27,239 Speaker 5: and boy, some of the best drinking we did last 708 00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:28,319 Speaker 5: year was at the Home Show. 709 00:35:28,760 --> 00:35:32,799 Speaker 1: Great moments in Nigel being overserved history that one, and 710 00:35:32,840 --> 00:35:36,560 Speaker 1: then me driving him home from the uh the Bowl event. 711 00:35:37,360 --> 00:35:42,080 Speaker 2: I like to go anywhere. Hey, take a left, Nigel, 712 00:35:42,160 --> 00:35:45,360 Speaker 2: Let's into a batch of trees. I mean right, the 713 00:35:45,480 --> 00:35:48,600 Speaker 2: thing he wasn't driving. All right, we'll have fun this afternoon. 714 00:35:48,600 --> 00:35:51,040 Speaker 2: Everybody come up hang out with us a grand park. 715 00:35:51,160 --> 00:35:51,960 Speaker 2: Let's do the thing. 716 00:35:52,120 --> 00:35:55,040 Speaker 3: Thanks sammer. It is Kendallly Casey on ninety three w 717 00:35:55,200 --> 00:35:55,640 Speaker 3: ib C