1 00:00:05,160 --> 00:00:10,800 Speaker 1: Live from Vaal Hartbeiner and the Crossroads of America. It's 2 00:00:10,880 --> 00:00:17,400 Speaker 1: Tony Katz today. 3 00:00:17,880 --> 00:00:20,320 Speaker 2: Welcome back everybody to Tony Katz Today. 4 00:00:20,440 --> 00:00:21,840 Speaker 3: I'm your guest host Kira Davis. 5 00:00:21,880 --> 00:00:24,919 Speaker 2: Tony's out today, but we're having fun together as usual. 6 00:00:25,000 --> 00:00:28,000 Speaker 2: Thanks for all of your support and kind messages. People 7 00:00:28,000 --> 00:00:30,560 Speaker 2: reach out to me often on X at Real Kira 8 00:00:30,680 --> 00:00:33,280 Speaker 2: Davis if you want to what I'm on the show, 9 00:00:33,400 --> 00:00:35,080 Speaker 2: just to say they love it when I fill in, 10 00:00:35,120 --> 00:00:38,000 Speaker 2: and I appreciate every message, every word. 11 00:00:38,400 --> 00:00:41,280 Speaker 3: It is very encouraging. So thank you, and it's always 12 00:00:41,280 --> 00:00:43,400 Speaker 3: a pleasure to be here. As I've already. 13 00:00:43,040 --> 00:00:45,080 Speaker 2: Said, well, I don't want to move on from Camela 14 00:00:45,120 --> 00:00:48,440 Speaker 2: before we play this other clip from her interview with 15 00:00:48,600 --> 00:00:53,080 Speaker 2: Rachel Maddow last night, and she was asked about her 16 00:00:53,159 --> 00:00:54,160 Speaker 2: choice for running mate. 17 00:00:54,200 --> 00:00:58,440 Speaker 3: This is another controversy. I think we all I. 18 00:00:58,360 --> 00:01:01,560 Speaker 2: Think we all looked at the field, you know, they had, 19 00:01:01,560 --> 00:01:04,080 Speaker 2: they were scrambling to put this campaign together. I think 20 00:01:04,120 --> 00:01:07,080 Speaker 2: we all looked at the Democrat field, saw who she 21 00:01:07,200 --> 00:01:11,560 Speaker 2: ended up choosing, and thought, what on earth, Like, there's 22 00:01:11,680 --> 00:01:15,360 Speaker 2: just all these other people that she passed over that 23 00:01:15,440 --> 00:01:17,520 Speaker 2: would that seems like it would have made a lot 24 00:01:17,600 --> 00:01:22,680 Speaker 2: more sense, again, not necessarily for us as Republicans and conservatives, 25 00:01:22,760 --> 00:01:25,399 Speaker 2: but at least more sense for her as a Democrat. 26 00:01:26,200 --> 00:01:27,920 Speaker 3: And then she got this really weird guy. 27 00:01:29,160 --> 00:01:33,200 Speaker 2: It's just everything is so guys again, just going back 28 00:01:33,240 --> 00:01:34,720 Speaker 2: to the theme, like there's no bottom. 29 00:01:36,200 --> 00:01:39,000 Speaker 3: Everything on that side is fake and weird. Right now. 30 00:01:39,120 --> 00:01:42,360 Speaker 2: They can't be trusted with anything, they don't understand anything. 31 00:01:42,640 --> 00:01:45,920 Speaker 2: I'm starting to wonder if they're even run by humans 32 00:01:45,959 --> 00:01:49,520 Speaker 2: over there, because everything they do is like a carbon copy. 33 00:01:49,600 --> 00:01:51,760 Speaker 2: It's like a copy of a human. It's like, this 34 00:01:51,840 --> 00:01:53,560 Speaker 2: is what I think humans would do. 35 00:01:53,840 --> 00:01:57,720 Speaker 3: This is what I think a personable female would look like. 36 00:01:57,800 --> 00:01:58,920 Speaker 3: This is what I think. 37 00:01:58,720 --> 00:02:01,640 Speaker 2: A jolly, a joy full male would look like. It's 38 00:02:01,680 --> 00:02:06,720 Speaker 2: so bizarre, it's so weird. So the Timwall thing was 39 00:02:06,880 --> 00:02:09,600 Speaker 2: I think I think he was a stone around her 40 00:02:09,639 --> 00:02:11,520 Speaker 2: neck from the beginning. I'll tell you why I think 41 00:02:11,560 --> 00:02:14,520 Speaker 2: she picked him. 42 00:02:13,720 --> 00:02:14,440 Speaker 3: After this clip. 43 00:02:14,440 --> 00:02:16,400 Speaker 2: But I want to play this clip because Rachel Maddow, 44 00:02:17,520 --> 00:02:20,079 Speaker 2: and this is radio, you can't see her. So I'm 45 00:02:20,080 --> 00:02:22,040 Speaker 2: going to tell you what her face is doing before 46 00:02:22,160 --> 00:02:25,519 Speaker 2: so you can picture it as you're listening to this clip. 47 00:02:25,760 --> 00:02:29,160 Speaker 2: Rachel Maddow, who is a lesbian, asks Kamala about who 48 00:02:29,240 --> 00:02:32,480 Speaker 2: she picked for VP, why she didn't Peete, pick Pete, Buddha, 49 00:02:32,560 --> 00:02:37,400 Speaker 2: Judge mayor Pete. And as she's answering, Rachel's face is dropping, 50 00:02:37,800 --> 00:02:40,639 Speaker 2: and if I could add a script to her face, 51 00:02:40,760 --> 00:02:44,600 Speaker 2: the script would be, oh my gosh, this woman is 52 00:02:44,680 --> 00:02:48,160 Speaker 2: stupid and we did really screw this up. That's the 53 00:02:48,160 --> 00:02:50,600 Speaker 2: impression I got. Maybe I'm reading into it because of 54 00:02:50,600 --> 00:02:52,560 Speaker 2: my bias. Let's go ahead and play the clip. 55 00:02:53,000 --> 00:02:55,400 Speaker 4: If his reaction to that, since this part of the 56 00:02:55,400 --> 00:02:58,400 Speaker 4: book has come out, if you've had any reflection on that, 57 00:02:58,680 --> 00:03:03,560 Speaker 4: or I guess, I guess I'd ask you to just 58 00:03:03,639 --> 00:03:05,840 Speaker 4: elaborate on that a little bit. It's hard to hear 59 00:03:07,280 --> 00:03:09,480 Speaker 4: with you running, as you know, you're the first woman 60 00:03:09,520 --> 00:03:12,280 Speaker 4: elected vice president, you're a black woman and a South 61 00:03:12,320 --> 00:03:16,280 Speaker 4: Asian woman elected that high office, very nearly elected president, 62 00:03:16,520 --> 00:03:18,519 Speaker 4: to say that he couldn't be on the ticket effectively 63 00:03:18,560 --> 00:03:20,120 Speaker 4: because he was gay, it's hard to hear. 64 00:03:20,120 --> 00:03:23,400 Speaker 5: No, No, that's not what I said. That's that he 65 00:03:23,440 --> 00:03:26,880 Speaker 5: couldn't be on the ticket because he is gay. My point, 66 00:03:27,639 --> 00:03:31,960 Speaker 5: as I write in the book, is that I was 67 00:03:32,080 --> 00:03:35,760 Speaker 5: clear that in one hundred and seven days, in one 68 00:03:35,800 --> 00:03:41,200 Speaker 5: of the most hotly contested elections for president United States 69 00:03:41,240 --> 00:03:47,440 Speaker 5: against someone like Donald Trump, who knows no floor to 70 00:03:47,560 --> 00:03:51,160 Speaker 5: be a black woman running for president United States and 71 00:03:51,800 --> 00:03:57,560 Speaker 5: as a vice presidential running mate a gay man, with 72 00:03:57,680 --> 00:04:01,800 Speaker 5: the stakes being so high, it made me very sad, 73 00:04:01,880 --> 00:04:05,240 Speaker 5: But I also realized it would be a real risk 74 00:04:07,640 --> 00:04:11,000 Speaker 5: no matter how you know. I've been an advocate and 75 00:04:11,040 --> 00:04:15,280 Speaker 5: an ally of the LGBT community my entire life. So 76 00:04:15,280 --> 00:04:17,359 Speaker 5: it wasn't about it wasn't about it, right, So it 77 00:04:17,400 --> 00:04:21,440 Speaker 5: wasn't about any any prejudice on my part, but that 78 00:04:21,640 --> 00:04:25,560 Speaker 5: we had short we had such a short period of time. 79 00:04:27,480 --> 00:04:29,120 Speaker 3: And the stakes were so high. 80 00:04:29,760 --> 00:04:37,000 Speaker 5: I think Pete is a phenomenal, phenomenal public servant, and 81 00:04:37,400 --> 00:04:41,760 Speaker 5: I think America is and would be ready for that. 82 00:04:44,000 --> 00:04:46,479 Speaker 5: But at when I had to make that decision with 83 00:04:46,600 --> 00:04:51,400 Speaker 5: two weeks to go, you know, and maybe I was 84 00:04:51,440 --> 00:04:54,960 Speaker 5: being too cautious, you know, I'll let our friends, we 85 00:04:54,960 --> 00:04:59,880 Speaker 5: should all talk about that. Maybe I was, but that 86 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:02,159 Speaker 5: that's the decision I made, and I'm and I as 87 00:05:02,279 --> 00:05:04,440 Speaker 5: with everything else in the book, and being very candid 88 00:05:04,480 --> 00:05:09,560 Speaker 5: about that. Yeah, with a great deal of sadness about 89 00:05:09,880 --> 00:05:13,880 Speaker 5: also the fact that it might have been a risk. 90 00:05:16,560 --> 00:05:20,400 Speaker 2: Okay, so I don't know, did you hear what I heard? 91 00:05:20,560 --> 00:05:24,599 Speaker 2: I thought she said that she couldn't take mere Peon 92 00:05:24,720 --> 00:05:26,360 Speaker 2: as her running mate because he's gay. 93 00:05:27,120 --> 00:05:29,760 Speaker 3: Pretty sure that's what she said. She was like, no, 94 00:05:29,839 --> 00:05:31,200 Speaker 3: that's not what I said, and then she. 95 00:05:31,200 --> 00:05:33,320 Speaker 2: Went on to say, all I was saying was that 96 00:05:33,360 --> 00:05:37,680 Speaker 2: I couldn't I couldn't bring him on because he was gay. 97 00:05:39,040 --> 00:05:44,719 Speaker 2: Rachel gets she definitely it now. I mean she was 98 00:05:44,760 --> 00:05:49,159 Speaker 2: struggling with it. She was struggling with it because she's 99 00:05:49,200 --> 00:05:52,200 Speaker 2: convinced herself that Kamala Harris was some kind of white knight. 100 00:05:52,800 --> 00:05:57,120 Speaker 3: And now she's face to face with it, and she's. 101 00:05:56,960 --> 00:05:59,240 Speaker 2: Got no reason to cover for Kamala anymore, got no 102 00:05:59,320 --> 00:06:01,960 Speaker 2: reason her mine, doesn't have a reason even to protect 103 00:06:01,960 --> 00:06:05,000 Speaker 2: her from Kambala's stupidity, right to just put a shine 104 00:06:05,040 --> 00:06:07,039 Speaker 2: on it, and maybe, oh, she didn't really say what 105 00:06:07,240 --> 00:06:10,320 Speaker 2: she said. So Rachel's just face to face with it, 106 00:06:11,480 --> 00:06:15,120 Speaker 2: and face to face with her ignorance and the fact that, yeah, no, 107 00:06:15,200 --> 00:06:18,080 Speaker 2: she absolutely did not pick Pete because he was gay, 108 00:06:18,120 --> 00:06:20,360 Speaker 2: and I mean, honestly, it was the right choice. No, 109 00:06:20,560 --> 00:06:24,000 Speaker 2: you can't run a gay man on the ticket. You 110 00:06:24,080 --> 00:06:29,840 Speaker 2: can't not to mention I mean, and Rachel again just 111 00:06:29,960 --> 00:06:33,880 Speaker 2: this is just the degeneracy of left wing media. If 112 00:06:33,920 --> 00:06:36,279 Speaker 2: she had any kind of curiosity, she would have dealt 113 00:06:36,320 --> 00:06:39,160 Speaker 2: further into why she didn't take Pete. Maybe she would 114 00:06:39,160 --> 00:06:42,440 Speaker 2: have thrown Kamela a little bone there, right, she would 115 00:06:42,440 --> 00:06:44,920 Speaker 2: have said, well, you know, Pete does have a pretty 116 00:06:44,960 --> 00:06:49,120 Speaker 2: poor track record as mayor in Fort Wayne. 117 00:06:49,120 --> 00:06:50,799 Speaker 3: And he right, that was Fort Wayne, where. 118 00:06:50,600 --> 00:06:53,400 Speaker 2: He was at in Indiana. A pretty poor track record 119 00:06:53,400 --> 00:06:57,120 Speaker 2: Black what was that? Oh, South Bend, South End, thank you, 120 00:06:57,320 --> 00:07:01,479 Speaker 2: South Bend. Pretty poor track record. Black people don't like them, 121 00:07:01,760 --> 00:07:03,800 Speaker 2: you know, in droves like he pulls it like one 122 00:07:03,880 --> 00:07:06,919 Speaker 2: percent with black people. You know, Rachel could have she 123 00:07:06,960 --> 00:07:09,920 Speaker 2: could have brought that up. She could have thrown Camela 124 00:07:10,000 --> 00:07:12,120 Speaker 2: that bone just to hang on to and be like, 125 00:07:12,200 --> 00:07:15,720 Speaker 2: you're right, none of that, which it's just again they're 126 00:07:15,760 --> 00:07:19,239 Speaker 2: they're they're just they're empty. And that's basically what Kamala 127 00:07:19,240 --> 00:07:20,560 Speaker 2: Harris was saying in that clip. 128 00:07:21,760 --> 00:07:23,080 Speaker 3: It was an empty campaign. 129 00:07:23,640 --> 00:07:29,600 Speaker 2: I made an empty decision based on empty factors. Even 130 00:07:29,600 --> 00:07:31,720 Speaker 2: the way I'm talking about it is empty. The truth 131 00:07:31,840 --> 00:07:35,440 Speaker 2: is that wasn't the truth. The only time she told. 132 00:07:35,280 --> 00:07:37,600 Speaker 3: The truth was I did not pick Pete because he 133 00:07:37,640 --> 00:07:39,040 Speaker 3: was gage. That's true. That's true. 134 00:07:39,120 --> 00:07:41,200 Speaker 2: Kamala doesn't have a problem with gay people. We all 135 00:07:41,280 --> 00:07:43,880 Speaker 2: must know that she didn't peepe pick him because he's 136 00:07:43,880 --> 00:07:48,080 Speaker 2: a loser, and because Americans don't want a gay vice president. 137 00:07:48,840 --> 00:07:51,280 Speaker 2: Maybe we will someday, we don't want It's like we 138 00:07:51,360 --> 00:07:55,560 Speaker 2: don't want unmarried men in the presidency. It's just something 139 00:07:55,720 --> 00:08:00,480 Speaker 2: very visceral that the American psyche, the American spirit holds 140 00:08:00,520 --> 00:08:00,800 Speaker 2: on too. 141 00:08:01,880 --> 00:08:04,800 Speaker 3: So we don't want on. We don't want singletons in 142 00:08:04,840 --> 00:08:08,240 Speaker 3: the White House. And there's a reason for that too. 143 00:08:08,720 --> 00:08:12,720 Speaker 2: It's not just that it's some mysterious thing of our psyche. 144 00:08:13,240 --> 00:08:16,640 Speaker 2: If a man can carry a family, we think that 145 00:08:16,680 --> 00:08:18,840 Speaker 2: says a lot about how he could carry a nation. 146 00:08:20,080 --> 00:08:23,520 Speaker 2: So there's that, But the whole answer was shallow, and 147 00:08:23,560 --> 00:08:25,200 Speaker 2: of course, so she didn't pick Pie because it was 148 00:08:25,200 --> 00:08:28,320 Speaker 2: a bad choice. But then she didn't pick Shapiro because 149 00:08:28,920 --> 00:08:31,880 Speaker 2: the base is completely anti Semitic, and he would have 150 00:08:31,880 --> 00:08:34,800 Speaker 2: been a great choice. That guy is polished, as you 151 00:08:34,880 --> 00:08:38,480 Speaker 2: know what. I made a comment the other day saying, 152 00:08:38,520 --> 00:08:40,160 Speaker 2: this would be the guy that I would go with 153 00:08:40,200 --> 00:08:42,120 Speaker 2: as Democrats, and they're so dumb, they're going to go 154 00:08:42,160 --> 00:08:43,800 Speaker 2: with the communists, and a lot of people are like, 155 00:08:43,880 --> 00:08:45,760 Speaker 2: he's not good either. Don't be fooled by him. I'm 156 00:08:45,800 --> 00:08:49,480 Speaker 2: not fooled by him. He's a Democrat. I'm just saying, 157 00:08:49,480 --> 00:08:51,560 Speaker 2: if I was a Democrat, that's the guy that I 158 00:08:51,559 --> 00:08:54,319 Speaker 2: would go to. He's polished, he seems to understand the 159 00:08:54,360 --> 00:08:56,480 Speaker 2: culture ship, and he seems to know how to least 160 00:08:56,640 --> 00:08:59,920 Speaker 2: lie well enough to make people believe that he's on it. 161 00:09:02,200 --> 00:09:05,839 Speaker 2: But instead you get the Kamelas of the world, and 162 00:09:06,640 --> 00:09:09,880 Speaker 2: they are completely vapid. I told you we're going to 163 00:09:09,920 --> 00:09:12,080 Speaker 2: go to a break here, but before we do, I 164 00:09:12,200 --> 00:09:15,479 Speaker 2: told you why she I knew why she picked him, 165 00:09:15,800 --> 00:09:17,680 Speaker 2: And this is based on just what I've been doing. 166 00:09:17,720 --> 00:09:20,199 Speaker 2: I've been, like I said, I've been reading these insider books, 167 00:09:20,800 --> 00:09:23,800 Speaker 2: and I think from all of the information that I've 168 00:09:23,840 --> 00:09:26,480 Speaker 2: put together, I think she chose him well because she 169 00:09:26,600 --> 00:09:26,960 Speaker 2: liked him. 170 00:09:27,440 --> 00:09:28,840 Speaker 3: I think at the end of the day, he was 171 00:09:28,880 --> 00:09:30,559 Speaker 3: a buffoon. She liked him. 172 00:09:30,600 --> 00:09:32,880 Speaker 2: They could get along, and she doesn't get along with 173 00:09:32,920 --> 00:09:35,679 Speaker 2: many people. This we know as well. She doesn't get 174 00:09:35,679 --> 00:09:38,599 Speaker 2: along with many people. And also, he wasn't going to 175 00:09:38,679 --> 00:09:41,360 Speaker 2: outshine her. He wasn't smart enough to outshine her. He 176 00:09:41,520 --> 00:09:44,400 Speaker 2: wasn't attractive enough to outshine her, and he didn't have 177 00:09:44,760 --> 00:09:47,760 Speaker 2: as interesting I don't even want to say interesting a personality, 178 00:09:47,760 --> 00:09:51,480 Speaker 2: but I don't know. He just Pete would have with 179 00:09:51,600 --> 00:09:54,120 Speaker 2: the bass, not with the general American public. 180 00:09:54,120 --> 00:09:55,640 Speaker 3: With the base, Pete would have. 181 00:09:56,080 --> 00:10:01,520 Speaker 2: Outshone Kamela just because he's more engaging. But he definitely 182 00:10:01,559 --> 00:10:05,560 Speaker 2: has a more polish, a better polish to him, and 183 00:10:05,600 --> 00:10:08,240 Speaker 2: the gay thing would have helped with the bass, and 184 00:10:08,360 --> 00:10:12,479 Speaker 2: Shapiro is extremely polished, well spoken, and he's very intelligent. 185 00:10:12,520 --> 00:10:17,440 Speaker 2: He's extremely intelligent. He would have made her look like 186 00:10:17,440 --> 00:10:21,400 Speaker 2: a dummy and he definitely would have outshowne her because 187 00:10:21,559 --> 00:10:23,480 Speaker 2: they would have been going Joe Rogan would have been. 188 00:10:23,400 --> 00:10:27,640 Speaker 3: Going to him right like. So she had no choice. 189 00:10:28,160 --> 00:10:29,160 Speaker 3: The buffoon was it. 190 00:10:29,640 --> 00:10:32,920 Speaker 2: And that's really the story of her campaign. The only 191 00:10:33,040 --> 00:10:36,760 Speaker 2: choice is buffoonery. Let's take a break. I'm Kia Davis 192 00:10:36,800 --> 00:10:39,040 Speaker 2: filling in for Tony Katz and you're listening to Tony 193 00:10:39,080 --> 00:10:42,679 Speaker 2: Katz Today. Welcome back, everybody too, Tony Kats Today. I 194 00:10:42,720 --> 00:10:44,679 Speaker 2: am your guest host, Kira Davis filling in for my 195 00:10:44,679 --> 00:10:47,920 Speaker 2: good friend Tony Katz on this Tuesday, September twenty third. 196 00:10:48,000 --> 00:10:53,400 Speaker 2: Where did September. Go man, We've lived a whole life 197 00:10:53,640 --> 00:10:58,400 Speaker 2: this month. We have lived an entire lifetime, and the 198 00:10:58,440 --> 00:11:03,280 Speaker 2: month is not over. I want to reflect for a second. 199 00:11:03,520 --> 00:11:06,640 Speaker 2: I just on where we're at. Maybe this is a 200 00:11:06,679 --> 00:11:08,920 Speaker 2: good time to tell people that I actually knew Charlie. 201 00:11:09,880 --> 00:11:13,200 Speaker 2: We were friendly. I wouldn't call us, you know, we're 202 00:11:13,240 --> 00:11:16,160 Speaker 2: friends as in colleagues. I guess all of my Charlie 203 00:11:16,160 --> 00:11:19,280 Speaker 2: stories are work stories. I didn't hang out with him personally. 204 00:11:19,720 --> 00:11:23,199 Speaker 2: I didn't know his family. We didn't have deep discussions, 205 00:11:23,240 --> 00:11:25,200 Speaker 2: but we worked together from time to time. 206 00:11:25,440 --> 00:11:26,439 Speaker 3: We did a lot on. 207 00:11:26,480 --> 00:11:30,760 Speaker 2: Fox News back in the early days of TPUSA, back 208 00:11:30,800 --> 00:11:32,080 Speaker 2: when Steve Hilton still had his show. 209 00:11:32,080 --> 00:11:33,480 Speaker 3: I used to be a regular guest on there, and 210 00:11:33,600 --> 00:11:34,559 Speaker 3: Charlie was on there a lot. 211 00:11:34,559 --> 00:11:37,079 Speaker 2: They would pair us a lot because I always had 212 00:11:37,120 --> 00:11:38,840 Speaker 2: sharp criticisms for him. 213 00:11:39,280 --> 00:11:41,599 Speaker 3: I didn't like him when I first met him, and 214 00:11:43,200 --> 00:11:45,160 Speaker 3: so they would pair us. And now over the years, 215 00:11:45,840 --> 00:11:48,240 Speaker 3: I always was a mild critic of Charlie. 216 00:11:48,280 --> 00:11:49,920 Speaker 2: Can go to my podcast and hear some of the 217 00:11:49,920 --> 00:11:53,040 Speaker 2: things that I disagreed with, but we were always on 218 00:11:53,080 --> 00:11:54,560 Speaker 2: the same side. 219 00:11:54,960 --> 00:11:59,160 Speaker 3: No matter. That's that's neither here nor there. The thing 220 00:11:59,280 --> 00:12:00,640 Speaker 3: is though, is that. 221 00:12:02,800 --> 00:12:07,600 Speaker 2: I didn't watch the video. I watched the shooting before 222 00:12:07,640 --> 00:12:09,480 Speaker 2: I knew what I was watching. Somebody sent me the 223 00:12:09,559 --> 00:12:12,520 Speaker 2: video and I thought it was just a regular TPUSA event, 224 00:12:13,200 --> 00:12:15,480 Speaker 2: and so I watched it. But it was from a distance, 225 00:12:15,600 --> 00:12:18,720 Speaker 2: and so I only saw him fall. I didn't have 226 00:12:18,760 --> 00:12:22,959 Speaker 2: to see anything else, and I will not. But it 227 00:12:23,000 --> 00:12:27,040 Speaker 2: is it is disconcerting to see someone that you know 228 00:12:27,400 --> 00:12:30,080 Speaker 2: and have just seen and just spoken to and just 229 00:12:30,240 --> 00:12:35,480 Speaker 2: talked too and just touched, just to be assassinated like that. 230 00:12:35,720 --> 00:12:36,080 Speaker 5: It is. 231 00:12:37,000 --> 00:12:40,640 Speaker 3: It was jarring for everyone. Of course, it's deeply jarring 232 00:12:40,640 --> 00:12:41,199 Speaker 3: for his family. 233 00:12:41,240 --> 00:12:44,200 Speaker 2: I don't mean to minimize at all their experience of this, 234 00:12:45,280 --> 00:12:48,079 Speaker 2: but just as someone on the fringes of it, even 235 00:12:48,480 --> 00:12:49,800 Speaker 2: it is jarring. 236 00:12:50,400 --> 00:12:55,240 Speaker 3: And I, yeah, I have to say I changed. I did. 237 00:12:55,320 --> 00:12:57,560 Speaker 3: I changed that day. 238 00:12:57,600 --> 00:13:00,200 Speaker 2: We really are in trouble, and I don't think we 239 00:13:00,200 --> 00:13:03,760 Speaker 2: have the luxury of debating these ideas anymore, as if 240 00:13:03,800 --> 00:13:07,960 Speaker 2: they're just concepts, or as if we're going to educate 241 00:13:08,000 --> 00:13:11,080 Speaker 2: the other side enough to at least just be friendly. 242 00:13:13,400 --> 00:13:16,400 Speaker 2: The rot is so deep that the other side doesn't 243 00:13:16,400 --> 00:13:20,320 Speaker 2: even know they're sick. So when I talk about things 244 00:13:20,360 --> 00:13:26,160 Speaker 2: like Brendan Carr at the FCC talking about reigniting the 245 00:13:26,200 --> 00:13:30,559 Speaker 2: public interest clause, or when you talk about the US 246 00:13:30,720 --> 00:13:35,440 Speaker 2: letting TikTok stay but controlling the algorithm, when you talk 247 00:13:35,520 --> 00:13:40,320 Speaker 2: about demanding that university's account for their foreign students, when 248 00:13:40,360 --> 00:13:46,319 Speaker 2: you talk about closing the border, or the changes to 249 00:13:46,360 --> 00:13:50,960 Speaker 2: the HB one visa programs, all of changing the Smithsonian, 250 00:13:52,200 --> 00:13:56,120 Speaker 2: all of these things are little things to work together 251 00:13:56,280 --> 00:14:02,040 Speaker 2: to reset the culture. This we didn't get here overnight. 252 00:14:02,120 --> 00:14:05,400 Speaker 2: Even the video games thing. You know, when I was younger, 253 00:14:05,400 --> 00:14:08,480 Speaker 2: I would have said, yeah, it's about parents, the video games, whatever, 254 00:14:08,559 --> 00:14:10,960 Speaker 2: first person shooter, who cares. Just don't let your kids 255 00:14:11,000 --> 00:14:12,920 Speaker 2: play it if you don't like it, which is what 256 00:14:12,960 --> 00:14:15,760 Speaker 2: I did, don't let your kids play it. But now 257 00:14:15,840 --> 00:14:18,959 Speaker 2: I see that after year, decades and decades of that. 258 00:14:19,320 --> 00:14:25,000 Speaker 2: It sits on top of a population that has less education, 259 00:14:26,680 --> 00:14:30,360 Speaker 2: children are more medicated screen addictions, and what that does 260 00:14:30,400 --> 00:14:31,000 Speaker 2: to your brain. 261 00:14:31,400 --> 00:14:34,000 Speaker 3: The destruction of the nuclear family and what that does 262 00:14:34,040 --> 00:14:34,720 Speaker 3: to your brain. 263 00:14:37,120 --> 00:14:40,240 Speaker 2: COVID four years of shut it, being shut in, being 264 00:14:40,280 --> 00:14:43,160 Speaker 2: locked away from your churches, being locked away from family 265 00:14:43,200 --> 00:14:46,680 Speaker 2: and friends. Yeah, when you pile it all up like that, yeah, 266 00:14:46,760 --> 00:14:50,240 Speaker 2: it does add up to something very rotten and bad 267 00:14:50,280 --> 00:14:50,880 Speaker 2: and nasty. 268 00:14:51,480 --> 00:14:52,680 Speaker 3: So our first person. 269 00:14:52,480 --> 00:14:55,160 Speaker 2: Shooter games a problem, No, but they are the problem 270 00:14:55,440 --> 00:15:01,720 Speaker 2: combined with two decades of depression medication and ADHD medication 271 00:15:02,400 --> 00:15:05,680 Speaker 2: and screen you know what I'm saying, get it, And 272 00:15:05,760 --> 00:15:11,000 Speaker 2: so all of this has to work together. You know, 273 00:15:11,160 --> 00:15:14,240 Speaker 2: we're not going to defeat this just at the ballot box. 274 00:15:14,240 --> 00:15:16,560 Speaker 2: That's the start. But really, what we're gonna have to 275 00:15:16,560 --> 00:15:18,040 Speaker 2: do is we're gonna have to do complete one to 276 00:15:18,080 --> 00:15:20,560 Speaker 2: eighty on all of our cultural institutions, and that will 277 00:15:20,600 --> 00:15:21,240 Speaker 2: take years. 278 00:15:21,720 --> 00:15:23,440 Speaker 3: That is gonna take years, and. 279 00:15:23,360 --> 00:15:26,520 Speaker 2: We're gonna have to purge like some of these violent 280 00:15:26,600 --> 00:15:29,280 Speaker 2: actors from the population. And I don't mean us like 281 00:15:29,360 --> 00:15:30,760 Speaker 2: go in and find them and kill them, but what 282 00:15:30,800 --> 00:15:34,040 Speaker 2: I mean is like, unfortunately, we're gonna have to wait 283 00:15:34,280 --> 00:15:39,080 Speaker 2: for them to rear their heads. And it's going to 284 00:15:39,200 --> 00:15:41,480 Speaker 2: happen more and more. It's been happening, it's just not 285 00:15:41,520 --> 00:15:46,320 Speaker 2: being reported. But the left doesn't own the legacy media. 286 00:15:46,360 --> 00:15:48,760 Speaker 2: They don't own the media anymore, they don't own the 287 00:15:48,840 --> 00:15:53,000 Speaker 2: avenues of information anymore. So we get to tell the stories. Now, 288 00:15:53,480 --> 00:15:55,760 Speaker 2: we get to tell the stories. I know you're looking 289 00:15:55,800 --> 00:15:58,920 Speaker 2: at ABC and NBC and you're going, look, Kira, they're 290 00:15:58,960 --> 00:16:01,560 Speaker 2: still out there every day and the airwaves, there's still 291 00:16:01,960 --> 00:16:04,720 Speaker 2: New York Times is still the paper of record. MSNBC 292 00:16:04,920 --> 00:16:07,800 Speaker 2: is still one of the most notable. No, No, that's 293 00:16:07,920 --> 00:16:12,440 Speaker 2: just that's us doing that, that's us giving them that title. 294 00:16:12,720 --> 00:16:15,120 Speaker 3: Again. Well, we're soaked in this. 295 00:16:15,200 --> 00:16:18,760 Speaker 2: We're baked in this, even as conservatives, we're baked in 296 00:16:18,800 --> 00:16:22,840 Speaker 2: this idea that we're not supposed to trigger these policies 297 00:16:22,880 --> 00:16:27,000 Speaker 2: and laws and ideals that we have were baked in 298 00:16:27,040 --> 00:16:28,240 Speaker 2: this idea that. 299 00:16:28,240 --> 00:16:33,280 Speaker 3: MSNBC and CNN are the record. They're not. Their viewership 300 00:16:33,360 --> 00:16:36,680 Speaker 3: is so low. Who are they talking to each other? 301 00:16:37,440 --> 00:16:40,080 Speaker 2: And when we report on what they're saying, we're not 302 00:16:40,280 --> 00:16:42,920 Speaker 2: reporting on what the people are saying. We're reporting on 303 00:16:42,960 --> 00:16:46,920 Speaker 2: what the talking heads at MSNBC are saying. And yes, 304 00:16:47,000 --> 00:16:48,400 Speaker 2: your friends are parenting that. 305 00:16:49,240 --> 00:16:49,840 Speaker 3: But if the. 306 00:16:49,840 --> 00:16:54,240 Speaker 2: FCC starts invoking the public interest clause and places like 307 00:16:54,400 --> 00:16:58,000 Speaker 2: MSNBC start being more careful about the facts that they air, 308 00:16:58,680 --> 00:17:03,200 Speaker 2: are your friends going to be pair that disinformation as 309 00:17:03,320 --> 00:17:10,200 Speaker 2: much it's trickled down, it's trickled down. Your friends will 310 00:17:10,240 --> 00:17:13,800 Speaker 2: stop parroting the same stupid talking points when they stop 311 00:17:13,960 --> 00:17:17,879 Speaker 2: getting the talking points. So it's not you're not going 312 00:17:17,960 --> 00:17:20,600 Speaker 2: to persuade your friends. Your friends that were out there 313 00:17:20,600 --> 00:17:23,760 Speaker 2: clapping for Charlie Kirk, they clap for you too. If 314 00:17:23,840 --> 00:17:27,280 Speaker 2: you got shot, they will clap for it too. So 315 00:17:27,359 --> 00:17:31,320 Speaker 2: they're not gonna You're not gonna persuade them. What's going 316 00:17:31,400 --> 00:17:34,320 Speaker 2: to change their mind because they are not intelligent enough 317 00:17:34,320 --> 00:17:36,640 Speaker 2: to do this for themselves. What's going to change their 318 00:17:36,680 --> 00:17:40,280 Speaker 2: mind is the propaganda. When the propaganda changes, their minds 319 00:17:40,280 --> 00:17:43,840 Speaker 2: will change. And that's just that, that's just where we are. 320 00:17:45,440 --> 00:17:48,640 Speaker 2: Sixty percent of this country is NPCs, just people walking 321 00:17:48,680 --> 00:17:55,320 Speaker 2: around with no inner monologue, no curiosity, no driver motivation, 322 00:17:55,480 --> 00:17:58,560 Speaker 2: and no concept of a larger world outside of themselves. 323 00:17:58,560 --> 00:18:06,040 Speaker 2: They are basically non player characters NPCs. You press a 324 00:18:06,080 --> 00:18:08,879 Speaker 2: button and they go here and they do that, and 325 00:18:08,960 --> 00:18:14,280 Speaker 2: a lot of them are in our government. We have 326 00:18:14,359 --> 00:18:17,320 Speaker 2: to shift the culture. And I get it, and I 327 00:18:17,359 --> 00:18:20,280 Speaker 2: know a lot of you conservative contrarians out there you 328 00:18:20,320 --> 00:18:23,840 Speaker 2: don't get it. And Trump makes you uncomfortable, and Brendan 329 00:18:23,880 --> 00:18:26,120 Speaker 2: Carr makes you uncomfortable. And when Trump goes out there 330 00:18:26,119 --> 00:18:30,159 Speaker 2: and he speaks inartfully about things in the culture, you 331 00:18:30,960 --> 00:18:34,320 Speaker 2: cringe and you oh, he's not saying it right, and 332 00:18:34,359 --> 00:18:36,879 Speaker 2: he's going to get dragged over the colder who cares. 333 00:18:37,359 --> 00:18:41,919 Speaker 3: We're beyond that. It's not about what if he's saying 334 00:18:41,920 --> 00:18:45,280 Speaker 3: it right or not. Is what he is saying right? 335 00:18:47,800 --> 00:18:50,520 Speaker 2: The answer is yes. It's been yes every time. And 336 00:18:50,560 --> 00:18:52,960 Speaker 2: believe me, I'm the first one. I've been the one 337 00:18:52,960 --> 00:18:55,800 Speaker 2: who's been wanting to be able to say no, yeah, 338 00:18:55,840 --> 00:18:57,840 Speaker 2: I was right. Trump was going to be wrong about this, that, 339 00:18:57,880 --> 00:19:00,359 Speaker 2: and the other because I have said the same things 340 00:19:00,400 --> 00:19:05,919 Speaker 2: over the years, but not this time. The proof is 341 00:19:05,960 --> 00:19:08,520 Speaker 2: all around us, so we don't need to be conservative 342 00:19:08,560 --> 00:19:13,720 Speaker 2: contrarians about him. We can accept that he is telling 343 00:19:13,960 --> 00:19:17,119 Speaker 2: us the truth. The world is rotten and if we 344 00:19:17,280 --> 00:19:21,960 Speaker 2: don't correct course right now, we're done for America's correcting course. 345 00:19:22,080 --> 00:19:26,159 Speaker 3: Will the world have the stones to follow? That is 346 00:19:26,200 --> 00:19:26,639 Speaker 3: the question. 347 00:19:26,840 --> 00:19:29,240 Speaker 2: I'm Kara Davis filling in for Tony Katz, and this 348 00:19:29,400 --> 00:19:41,240 Speaker 2: is Tony Katz Today. Welcome back everybody to Tony Kats Today. Boy, 349 00:19:41,359 --> 00:19:44,040 Speaker 2: time flies when you're having fun. Tony's out today, but 350 00:19:44,080 --> 00:19:48,000 Speaker 2: I've been guest hosting all day. I'm Kia Davis filling 351 00:19:48,000 --> 00:19:50,280 Speaker 2: in for my good friend Tony Katz. You can go 352 00:19:50,320 --> 00:19:53,240 Speaker 2: sign up for my substack. Just Kiaradavis dot substack dot com. 353 00:19:53,240 --> 00:19:57,240 Speaker 2: That's just just Karadavis dot substack dot com. Talking a 354 00:19:57,280 --> 00:19:58,240 Speaker 2: lot about Kimmel this. 355 00:19:58,240 --> 00:20:03,560 Speaker 3: Week, kim O and Kirk basically so on that topic. 356 00:20:03,600 --> 00:20:06,000 Speaker 2: I don't know if you saw yesterday, but Keith Olberman 357 00:20:06,040 --> 00:20:09,520 Speaker 2: remember him. He was fired from MSNBC for being a 358 00:20:09,560 --> 00:20:11,879 Speaker 2: lunatic and now he does something on the internet. I 359 00:20:11,880 --> 00:20:15,080 Speaker 2: don't know, he ramps like a lunatic on x. It's 360 00:20:15,920 --> 00:20:19,240 Speaker 2: really sad. It's really sad to see. But yesterday he 361 00:20:19,280 --> 00:20:22,760 Speaker 2: threatened Scott Jennings not in our national treasure, Scott Jennings, 362 00:20:22,800 --> 00:20:23,639 Speaker 2: how dare you? 363 00:20:23,680 --> 00:20:23,920 Speaker 1: Sir? 364 00:20:25,080 --> 00:20:28,920 Speaker 2: Scott Jennings made a comment about Jimmy Kimmel not being fired, 365 00:20:29,119 --> 00:20:32,640 Speaker 2: and Keith Olberman responded with your next effort and then 366 00:20:32,680 --> 00:20:35,520 Speaker 2: another We're going to get you next, or something like that. 367 00:20:36,480 --> 00:20:41,520 Speaker 2: Given what's going on in this country and the loss 368 00:20:41,560 --> 00:20:47,639 Speaker 2: of Charlie Kirk days ago, Scott Jennings felt that to 369 00:20:47,680 --> 00:20:51,359 Speaker 2: be a bit threatening, and I think so as well, 370 00:20:51,640 --> 00:20:55,960 Speaker 2: and so he tagged the FBI on it, tag Cash Hotel, 371 00:20:56,320 --> 00:21:01,240 Speaker 2: whom he knows personally. And just now, just in the break, 372 00:21:01,760 --> 00:21:08,520 Speaker 2: Keith Oberman has tweeted out, I apologize without reservation to 373 00:21:08,560 --> 00:21:13,520 Speaker 2: Scott Jennings. Yesterday I wrote and immediately deleted two responses 374 00:21:13,560 --> 00:21:16,560 Speaker 2: to him about Kimmel because they could be misinterpreted as 375 00:21:16,560 --> 00:21:20,560 Speaker 2: a threat to anything besides his career. I immediately replaced 376 00:21:20,600 --> 00:21:23,280 Speaker 2: them with the ones specifying what I actually met. 377 00:21:23,480 --> 00:21:24,840 Speaker 3: And then he posted another one. 378 00:21:24,880 --> 00:21:28,200 Speaker 2: I oppose and condemned political violence and the threat of it. 379 00:21:28,400 --> 00:21:32,080 Speaker 2: All times are the wrong time to leave, even an 380 00:21:32,119 --> 00:21:36,600 Speaker 2: inadvertent impression of it, but this time especially is wrong. 381 00:21:36,840 --> 00:21:39,600 Speaker 2: I should have acknowledged the deletion when I did it, 382 00:21:39,680 --> 00:21:41,520 Speaker 2: and I should have apologized yesterday. 383 00:21:41,600 --> 00:21:45,160 Speaker 3: I am sorry I delayed. That is a. 384 00:21:45,600 --> 00:21:50,680 Speaker 2: Very thorough apologies. Methinks he got a call from the FBI. 385 00:21:52,200 --> 00:21:54,360 Speaker 2: But do you see what I'm saying here, Going back 386 00:21:54,400 --> 00:21:57,159 Speaker 2: to my grant before the break, We're going to have 387 00:21:57,160 --> 00:21:59,520 Speaker 2: to course correct. It's going to be we have to correct. 388 00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:01,720 Speaker 2: These people have to get punished, some of them have 389 00:22:01,760 --> 00:22:07,000 Speaker 2: to get slapped down. Right, does cash Hotel want? Does 390 00:22:07,119 --> 00:22:10,880 Speaker 2: he knows Keith Oberman isn't going to go kill Scott Jennings. 391 00:22:10,960 --> 00:22:14,480 Speaker 2: He knows that, but he also knows that people get triggered, right, 392 00:22:14,760 --> 00:22:17,159 Speaker 2: But is it going to go arrest Keith Oberman and 393 00:22:17,160 --> 00:22:19,600 Speaker 2: put him on trial for threatening another man's life. 394 00:22:19,640 --> 00:22:20,840 Speaker 3: No, he doesn't want to do that. 395 00:22:21,400 --> 00:22:23,600 Speaker 2: What he would like to do is for everybody to 396 00:22:23,640 --> 00:22:28,800 Speaker 2: stop losing their freaking minds and come back to some 397 00:22:28,880 --> 00:22:31,120 Speaker 2: kind of normal, saving things about Scott. 398 00:22:31,600 --> 00:22:33,760 Speaker 3: Tell him that you don't like him, Tell him. 399 00:22:33,640 --> 00:22:37,040 Speaker 2: You think he's he's you know, a jerk and a 400 00:22:37,160 --> 00:22:41,280 Speaker 2: racist and a homophobe. That's that's it's not right, it's 401 00:22:41,320 --> 00:22:44,920 Speaker 2: a lie. But tell him that. But this thing we're doing, 402 00:22:44,960 --> 00:22:47,400 Speaker 2: where we're just pointing and threatening each other all day long, 403 00:22:47,440 --> 00:22:50,879 Speaker 2: By the way, the left has no threats left. Do 404 00:22:50,920 --> 00:22:53,000 Speaker 2: you want to know what, Jimmy or excuse me what 405 00:22:54,119 --> 00:22:58,320 Speaker 2: Keith replaced those tweets with. The first one says, the 406 00:22:58,359 --> 00:23:01,120 Speaker 2: first one said your next MF and so he replaced 407 00:23:01,160 --> 00:23:06,000 Speaker 2: it with we want you stupid pieces of last fold 408 00:23:06,119 --> 00:23:08,879 Speaker 2: to fascism was last week. I'm not sure what he 409 00:23:08,960 --> 00:23:11,440 Speaker 2: means by that, but I think now in my mind 410 00:23:11,440 --> 00:23:13,440 Speaker 2: I would think, oh, do you mean Charlie getting shot? 411 00:23:13,480 --> 00:23:16,680 Speaker 3: But no, he means Jimmy Kimmel. He means Jimmy being 412 00:23:16,680 --> 00:23:18,560 Speaker 3: able to get back on the air. 413 00:23:18,720 --> 00:23:21,800 Speaker 2: Was the last fold to fascism and then the second 414 00:23:22,000 --> 00:23:25,800 Speaker 2: correction he says, now we get the fascists off Real TV. 415 00:23:26,040 --> 00:23:28,720 Speaker 2: That didn't mean your career is next. Jennings send a 416 00:23:28,760 --> 00:23:31,840 Speaker 2: tape to Real America's voice, but keep mugging to the 417 00:23:31,880 --> 00:23:36,840 Speaker 2: camera amateur, which is hilarious because Keith Olberman used to 418 00:23:36,880 --> 00:23:40,960 Speaker 2: be on MSNBC and now he does lunatic rants on 419 00:23:41,200 --> 00:23:45,399 Speaker 2: X for a Living, right, talk about amateurs and Scott 420 00:23:45,480 --> 00:23:48,399 Speaker 2: Jennings the loan He's not the loan conservative, but he 421 00:23:48,600 --> 00:23:52,240 Speaker 2: is the leading conservative voice on CNN. I do want 422 00:23:52,280 --> 00:23:54,480 Speaker 2: to take a chance to shout out my friends or 423 00:23:54,520 --> 00:23:58,359 Speaker 2: my goal Singleton, who is also on CNN quite a 424 00:23:58,359 --> 00:24:00,280 Speaker 2: bit and is great. 425 00:24:00,320 --> 00:24:02,560 Speaker 3: He's a lovely man. Love him and he does. 426 00:24:02,960 --> 00:24:06,280 Speaker 2: He has a firearms a to a coalition that he 427 00:24:06,320 --> 00:24:06,960 Speaker 2: works with that. 428 00:24:07,119 --> 00:24:09,760 Speaker 3: Is great as well. So when you see Schermichael, give 429 00:24:09,800 --> 00:24:12,040 Speaker 3: him some love. But anyway, the whole. 430 00:24:11,800 --> 00:24:15,800 Speaker 2: Point with that is that a the Olderman's of the 431 00:24:15,840 --> 00:24:18,600 Speaker 2: world are delusional, right, you know, he thinks he's being 432 00:24:18,640 --> 00:24:26,199 Speaker 2: some warrior, but be playing playing, you know, putting on 433 00:24:26,800 --> 00:24:30,520 Speaker 2: our big boy pants and being the boss works. 434 00:24:30,880 --> 00:24:32,440 Speaker 3: It will shift the culture. 435 00:24:32,800 --> 00:24:37,879 Speaker 2: You see what Olberman didn't do there, He didn't qualify, 436 00:24:38,640 --> 00:24:41,240 Speaker 2: and he was very careful to not qualify, and in fact, 437 00:24:41,240 --> 00:24:44,679 Speaker 2: he repeated himself to make sure that he was not qualifying. 438 00:24:44,960 --> 00:24:46,320 Speaker 3: Do you know what I mean when I say that 439 00:24:47,040 --> 00:24:49,960 Speaker 3: he he doesn't say there's no butts. 440 00:24:50,640 --> 00:24:53,679 Speaker 2: I didn't agree with everything Charlie Kirk said. But you know, 441 00:24:54,040 --> 00:24:56,040 Speaker 2: as I said earlier, I have a lot of critics. 442 00:24:56,160 --> 00:25:00,119 Speaker 2: I had a lot of friendly criticisms for Charlie, and 443 00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:03,000 Speaker 2: I've done entire episodes on some of the things he's 444 00:25:03,080 --> 00:25:06,439 Speaker 2: said that I felt were unhealthful. Never once have you 445 00:25:06,480 --> 00:25:09,640 Speaker 2: heard me say I didn't agree with Charlie, but there 446 00:25:09,680 --> 00:25:10,760 Speaker 2: are no butts. 447 00:25:11,240 --> 00:25:13,399 Speaker 3: You know, there's no butts. So he didn't. 448 00:25:13,200 --> 00:25:16,800 Speaker 2: Qualify anything, and I think that was very careful. This 449 00:25:17,000 --> 00:25:20,439 Speaker 2: reads like the statements of a man who got a 450 00:25:20,520 --> 00:25:25,080 Speaker 2: visit from the FBI and can't afford the fight, because really, 451 00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:28,080 Speaker 2: you know, if he were brave, if he had if 452 00:25:28,119 --> 00:25:31,760 Speaker 2: he had half the courage he pretends to have on X, 453 00:25:33,320 --> 00:25:35,520 Speaker 2: he would have told the fbi' f off. He would 454 00:25:35,520 --> 00:25:37,760 Speaker 2: have dared them to come investigate him and arrest him, 455 00:25:37,760 --> 00:25:39,240 Speaker 2: and then he would use that as content. 456 00:25:40,880 --> 00:25:44,480 Speaker 3: He's not that brave. He's not that brave because. 457 00:25:44,320 --> 00:25:47,480 Speaker 2: Jimmy Kimmel, All Jimmy Kimmel put on the line was 458 00:25:47,520 --> 00:25:49,680 Speaker 2: a few nights of airtime. He gets paid whether the 459 00:25:49,720 --> 00:25:52,080 Speaker 2: show airs or not. All he put on the line 460 00:25:52,440 --> 00:25:55,080 Speaker 2: is a few nights of airtime. What Olberman would be 461 00:25:55,080 --> 00:25:58,320 Speaker 2: putting on the line would be his very freedom. So 462 00:25:58,400 --> 00:26:00,480 Speaker 2: they talk a big gay, but none of them are 463 00:26:00,520 --> 00:26:04,640 Speaker 2: willing to do anything to save anyone, let alone this country. 464 00:26:05,400 --> 00:26:10,080 Speaker 2: So they've been allowed to take the bully pulpit. And 465 00:26:10,400 --> 00:26:12,800 Speaker 2: again this goes back to maybe I need to just 466 00:26:12,800 --> 00:26:15,720 Speaker 2: do a whole podcast on this, because it goes back 467 00:26:15,720 --> 00:26:22,840 Speaker 2: to the Brandon Carr comments, this public interest clause, this phrase, 468 00:26:23,760 --> 00:26:26,920 Speaker 2: and what does it mean if you have if you've 469 00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:34,240 Speaker 2: got broadcasters who are deliberately airing lies that knowingly scare 470 00:26:34,359 --> 00:26:39,760 Speaker 2: Americans and make Americans fearful of each other, and in 471 00:26:39,800 --> 00:26:41,400 Speaker 2: the end it leads. 472 00:26:41,040 --> 00:26:42,280 Speaker 3: To public panic. 473 00:26:42,840 --> 00:26:46,520 Speaker 2: You know, like if you put on every night China 474 00:26:46,680 --> 00:26:49,840 Speaker 2: is invading the West coast of America tomorrow, and you 475 00:26:49,880 --> 00:26:51,200 Speaker 2: put that on every night, you go. 476 00:26:51,160 --> 00:26:54,479 Speaker 3: Well, we're just talking, we're just saying things. 477 00:26:55,200 --> 00:26:59,240 Speaker 2: That's harmful, that's not in the public interest, it's not true. 478 00:26:59,359 --> 00:27:02,000 Speaker 2: You're causing people to be crazy. What you know, all 479 00:27:02,040 --> 00:27:05,280 Speaker 2: the consequences of that have run on stores, no toilet paper, 480 00:27:05,720 --> 00:27:08,479 Speaker 2: you know, maybe neighbors getting violent, like people will panic. 481 00:27:09,440 --> 00:27:12,479 Speaker 2: The left wing media in this country has been selling 482 00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:16,359 Speaker 2: panic to half the country, less than half the country, 483 00:27:16,359 --> 00:27:19,040 Speaker 2: because I believe we're the majority, not them, but panic 484 00:27:19,080 --> 00:27:21,560 Speaker 2: to a good portion of this country for decades now. 485 00:27:22,080 --> 00:27:26,480 Speaker 2: Is that very much in the public interest? I know, overman, apologize, 486 00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:28,960 Speaker 2: but it's still not helpful for you to go out 487 00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:31,879 Speaker 2: and call fellow Americans fascists when all they're doing is 488 00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:38,800 Speaker 2: espousing totally normal, mainstream American views. That's harmful, that's insightful, 489 00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:43,080 Speaker 2: that's dangerous, That's not in the interest of the American people. Absolutely, 490 00:27:43,119 --> 00:27:45,439 Speaker 2: I believe the FCC cannon should come in and start 491 00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:51,080 Speaker 2: throwing around the public interest clause, and people are gonna 492 00:27:51,080 --> 00:27:53,720 Speaker 2: cry and scream about free speech, and you know what, 493 00:27:53,760 --> 00:27:56,040 Speaker 2: maybe it is a threat to free speech. I don't know. 494 00:27:56,480 --> 00:27:59,760 Speaker 2: We're not in a position to adjudicate that right now. 495 00:28:00,600 --> 00:28:03,719 Speaker 2: We'll have to see what happens. We've seen what happens 496 00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:06,480 Speaker 2: when we let the left say whatever they want willy nilly, 497 00:28:06,520 --> 00:28:09,640 Speaker 2: and then we let ourselves be pushed out of the 498 00:28:09,800 --> 00:28:15,040 Speaker 2: very public squares where we could come back that idiocy, 499 00:28:15,200 --> 00:28:18,800 Speaker 2: that lunacy. We've seen what happens when we let that happen, 500 00:28:18,840 --> 00:28:20,640 Speaker 2: so let's try it the other way around and see 501 00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:22,520 Speaker 2: what happens. All right, let's take one last break. 502 00:28:22,520 --> 00:28:25,639 Speaker 3: We'll come We'll come back and bring it home. 503 00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:28,240 Speaker 2: I'm Kiara Davis feeling it for Tony Kats, and this 504 00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:35,680 Speaker 2: is Tony Kats Today. Welcome back, everybody, Welcome back to 505 00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:37,960 Speaker 2: Tony Kats Today. I am your host, Kara Davis. I 506 00:28:38,040 --> 00:28:39,719 Speaker 2: was just reading X while I was trying to introduce 507 00:28:39,760 --> 00:28:42,040 Speaker 2: the show. I guess I can't really multitask anymore at 508 00:28:42,080 --> 00:28:44,400 Speaker 2: my age, I should stop. Welcome back to the show. 509 00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:46,440 Speaker 2: I'm Kiara Davis, feeling it for Tony Kats. We are 510 00:28:46,440 --> 00:28:47,440 Speaker 2: bringing it home. 511 00:28:47,880 --> 00:28:48,840 Speaker 3: There's so much time. 512 00:28:48,880 --> 00:28:50,480 Speaker 2: I didn't even get to all of it. Let me 513 00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:52,280 Speaker 2: look at my notes here. I didn't even get we 514 00:28:52,280 --> 00:28:58,960 Speaker 2: didn't talk about the autism thing. And it was a 515 00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:03,200 Speaker 2: strange announcement. I'll say this about it. So Trump announced 516 00:29:03,280 --> 00:29:06,240 Speaker 2: yesterday that the government believes there is a link, a 517 00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:10,600 Speaker 2: very solid link, between excessive use of thailanol or a 518 00:29:10,680 --> 00:29:15,200 Speaker 2: seed of menafin during pregnancy and autism and It was 519 00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:17,440 Speaker 2: a little muddled because he just kept saying, don't take 520 00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:20,320 Speaker 2: the talentol, don't take the tailanol. You have to understand 521 00:29:20,360 --> 00:29:22,920 Speaker 2: how Trump talks to read him. And I know a 522 00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:24,840 Speaker 2: lot of the critics will go, oh, yeah, you need 523 00:29:24,920 --> 00:29:26,800 Speaker 2: to interpret the president. It's not that you need to 524 00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:29,480 Speaker 2: interpret him, it's if you're not from New York, which 525 00:29:29,480 --> 00:29:33,440 Speaker 2: I am not, then you don't really. New Yorkers have 526 00:29:33,520 --> 00:29:36,120 Speaker 2: a way of speaking. Every region has a way of speaking, 527 00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:39,440 Speaker 2: and New York is very specific. So once you get 528 00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:44,640 Speaker 2: acclimated to that, you can kind of sift through the 529 00:29:44,680 --> 00:29:47,040 Speaker 2: way he expresses himself and you can really hear what 530 00:29:47,080 --> 00:29:47,560 Speaker 2: he's saying. 531 00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:52,320 Speaker 3: And so what I heard what he was saying was. 532 00:29:52,320 --> 00:29:58,120 Speaker 2: That thailanol is a problem. It's a problem for pregnant women. 533 00:29:59,160 --> 00:30:02,480 Speaker 2: Our use of a set of menafine for painkilling period 534 00:30:02,680 --> 00:30:06,120 Speaker 2: is a problem. It is definitely causing problems in the body. 535 00:30:06,320 --> 00:30:09,120 Speaker 2: We are seeing links with it. You should stay away 536 00:30:09,120 --> 00:30:11,480 Speaker 2: from it. If you take it in small doses of 537 00:30:11,560 --> 00:30:13,800 Speaker 2: when you need it for this or that, that's one thing. 538 00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:16,440 Speaker 2: If you take it on a regular basis, or especially 539 00:30:16,480 --> 00:30:19,440 Speaker 2: if you take it regularly while pregnant, that's dangerous. 540 00:30:19,440 --> 00:30:20,000 Speaker 3: Don't do it. 541 00:30:20,400 --> 00:30:22,760 Speaker 2: That's what he was saying. Now, it's just a press conference. 542 00:30:22,840 --> 00:30:24,719 Speaker 2: He's not going to run down all the numbers for you. 543 00:30:24,960 --> 00:30:30,000 Speaker 2: But afterwards, RFK and doctor Oz also gave their own portions. 544 00:30:30,040 --> 00:30:32,520 Speaker 2: Now here's what I also heard that is not being 545 00:30:32,560 --> 00:30:37,840 Speaker 2: covered right now. What President Trump also mentioned the vaccines, 546 00:30:38,840 --> 00:30:44,120 Speaker 2: and he said that there were some components of vaccines 547 00:30:44,120 --> 00:30:46,080 Speaker 2: that they're going to order to be taken out, and 548 00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:49,600 Speaker 2: they don't want to group the vaccines anymore. He intimated 549 00:30:49,600 --> 00:30:52,560 Speaker 2: that those were a problem too. Now here's what happened, 550 00:30:53,160 --> 00:30:54,719 Speaker 2: and you should go back and watch the whole thing 551 00:30:54,760 --> 00:30:58,040 Speaker 2: yourself so you can see. RFK came up afterwards, and 552 00:30:58,200 --> 00:31:03,120 Speaker 2: RFK did talk about the vaccines a lot more than 553 00:31:03,160 --> 00:31:07,320 Speaker 2: the tail and all, and he said that forty to 554 00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:12,120 Speaker 2: seventy percent of women who have autistic children are convinced 555 00:31:12,600 --> 00:31:16,840 Speaker 2: that the vaccines cause the autism. 556 00:31:17,280 --> 00:31:18,920 Speaker 3: Now, I don't know what I believe. 557 00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:23,800 Speaker 2: I've written many articles over the years on quote anti 558 00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:28,760 Speaker 2: vaxxers and how and the efficacy of vaccines. I've been 559 00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:34,080 Speaker 2: an advocate for vaccines but also vaccine choice, and over 560 00:31:34,080 --> 00:31:36,760 Speaker 2: the years, I've written many articles and I've quoted all 561 00:31:36,760 --> 00:31:39,960 Speaker 2: the research and you know all of that good stuff. 562 00:31:40,040 --> 00:31:43,280 Speaker 2: But you know, COVID taught me and a lot of 563 00:31:43,320 --> 00:31:48,000 Speaker 2: people about quote the research, and that cuts both ways. 564 00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:50,320 Speaker 2: I don't know what to believe there, I really don't. 565 00:31:50,360 --> 00:31:53,000 Speaker 2: I think that cuts both ways. It's like, do I 566 00:31:53,040 --> 00:31:55,800 Speaker 2: trust the old government research anywhere? 567 00:31:55,920 --> 00:31:56,880 Speaker 3: No? No. 568 00:31:58,160 --> 00:32:01,280 Speaker 2: But when you're really desperately looking for a solution and 569 00:32:01,320 --> 00:32:03,360 Speaker 2: you belong to all these groups and they say, oh, 570 00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:05,320 Speaker 2: it's the vaccines, and you start to get that in 571 00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:07,600 Speaker 2: your head and then you believe it too, is that 572 00:32:07,800 --> 00:32:12,240 Speaker 2: convincing as well? So I will say that my mind 573 00:32:12,280 --> 00:32:14,719 Speaker 2: is more open on it than it's ever been because 574 00:32:14,760 --> 00:32:17,120 Speaker 2: of the work that RFK has done. But I did 575 00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:21,400 Speaker 2: note that he spent a long time talking about the 576 00:32:21,520 --> 00:32:25,440 Speaker 2: vaccine problem and I and Trump spent a short. 577 00:32:25,240 --> 00:32:27,400 Speaker 3: Amount of time on it. And it made me think 578 00:32:27,440 --> 00:32:28,480 Speaker 3: that maybe the real. 579 00:32:28,360 --> 00:32:31,480 Speaker 2: Problem is the vaccines, and Trump chose the tail and 580 00:32:31,520 --> 00:32:34,440 Speaker 2: all portion of it to focus on because he is 581 00:32:34,480 --> 00:32:37,560 Speaker 2: not ready to take down Pfizer, or if he ever 582 00:32:37,640 --> 00:32:39,120 Speaker 2: will be. I don't know if you can. I don't 583 00:32:39,120 --> 00:32:41,400 Speaker 2: know if you would want to. They do a lot 584 00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:44,360 Speaker 2: of work, and I was thinking, well, tailand all's toast, right? 585 00:32:44,360 --> 00:32:46,920 Speaker 2: The President just told everybody to stop by and tilan all. 586 00:32:47,360 --> 00:32:50,959 Speaker 2: But to do that for one of our major drug manufacturers, 587 00:32:51,880 --> 00:32:54,280 Speaker 2: you know, maybe he thought twice about it. I'm guessing now, 588 00:32:54,440 --> 00:32:56,920 Speaker 2: I'm guessing I'm just making observations. 589 00:32:57,000 --> 00:33:00,120 Speaker 3: I did notice that, you know, maybe we really do 590 00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:04,520 Speaker 3: have a problem with the vaccines and our kids. 591 00:33:05,320 --> 00:33:07,880 Speaker 2: I've never had any problems in my family. My children 592 00:33:07,880 --> 00:33:11,920 Speaker 2: are vaccinated, but if I'm being honest, are not all 593 00:33:11,920 --> 00:33:15,520 Speaker 2: the way vaccinated. I didn't get every vaccination. I'm the 594 00:33:15,640 --> 00:33:19,360 Speaker 2: lazy mom. I just hate making the doctor's appointment. And 595 00:33:19,400 --> 00:33:21,440 Speaker 2: then by the time I got older and I realized, oh, 596 00:33:21,480 --> 00:33:23,920 Speaker 2: you don't really need these vaccinations, like you're fine, You're 597 00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:29,200 Speaker 2: not gonna get hepatized. B you now, you're I realized, 598 00:33:29,240 --> 00:33:31,040 Speaker 2: And so I never went back and got them. 599 00:33:31,720 --> 00:33:32,320 Speaker 3: Excuse me. 600 00:33:32,400 --> 00:33:36,280 Speaker 2: So my anecdotal research is a little lacking. It's got 601 00:33:36,280 --> 00:33:36,920 Speaker 2: some holes in it. 602 00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:42,120 Speaker 3: I'll admit that. So I don't know. 603 00:33:42,320 --> 00:33:45,880 Speaker 2: I think though, again, going back to the theme of the show, 604 00:33:46,520 --> 00:33:49,160 Speaker 2: as we shift the culture, it's going to take years 605 00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:51,840 Speaker 2: and years and years to see how the work we're doing, 606 00:33:51,880 --> 00:33:56,280 Speaker 2: the very uncomfortable work we're doing right now, how that 607 00:33:56,400 --> 00:33:56,800 Speaker 2: is going to. 608 00:33:56,760 --> 00:33:57,520 Speaker 3: Reset the culture. 609 00:33:57,520 --> 00:34:00,840 Speaker 2: And the thing is, you guys, we're living in the 610 00:34:00,840 --> 00:34:03,840 Speaker 2: best time because we get to see this culture shift 611 00:34:04,120 --> 00:34:05,440 Speaker 2: with our own eyes. 612 00:34:05,680 --> 00:34:09,200 Speaker 3: We're living it, we're witnessing it. We're parts of history. 613 00:34:09,360 --> 00:34:11,880 Speaker 2: And when our grandkids come to us and they're going 614 00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:18,080 Speaker 2: to write a report on the cultural revolution of the 615 00:34:18,120 --> 00:34:21,040 Speaker 2: twenty twenties, they're gonna come to us and ask us, 616 00:34:21,120 --> 00:34:21,799 Speaker 2: what was it like? 617 00:34:22,200 --> 00:34:24,839 Speaker 3: This is my history book, says what was it like? 618 00:34:24,880 --> 00:34:27,520 Speaker 2: And we'll go because we'll have been there, and we'll 619 00:34:27,560 --> 00:34:28,879 Speaker 2: see the way they massage the. 620 00:34:28,880 --> 00:34:30,759 Speaker 3: Stories and tell them from a certain point of view, 621 00:34:30,760 --> 00:34:32,960 Speaker 3: will go, no, it was like this. 622 00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:37,480 Speaker 2: By the time we get there, our grandchildren will have 623 00:34:37,520 --> 00:34:39,760 Speaker 2: been baked in it, and they won't know what life 624 00:34:39,840 --> 00:34:44,239 Speaker 2: was like with the lunatic left. They won't have lived it, 625 00:34:45,360 --> 00:34:49,120 Speaker 2: and they'll be asking for stories about it. So gather 626 00:34:49,239 --> 00:34:55,480 Speaker 2: your stories, make notes, make mental notes, save the newspaper clippings, 627 00:34:56,360 --> 00:34:59,279 Speaker 2: do the things. Write your posts on Facebook that'll pop 628 00:34:59,320 --> 00:35:01,759 Speaker 2: back up in your mem Write a blog post, you know, 629 00:35:02,080 --> 00:35:07,000 Speaker 2: get on record. Moments after Charlie died, I got on 630 00:35:07,080 --> 00:35:13,640 Speaker 2: Instagram not because I wanted clicks or because I wanted attention, 631 00:35:13,920 --> 00:35:17,640 Speaker 2: but because I knew that our culture had just shifted 632 00:35:17,680 --> 00:35:21,920 Speaker 2: and I wanted to be a part of the record. Everybody, 633 00:35:22,120 --> 00:35:24,520 Speaker 2: it's time for you to get on record. We've been 634 00:35:25,239 --> 00:35:28,000 Speaker 2: being polite for too long. Go get on the record. 635 00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:31,799 Speaker 2: America needs you. Thanks for tuning in today. Go find 636 00:35:31,840 --> 00:35:35,680 Speaker 2: me on Exit Real Cara Davis, igad just Kiara Davis, 637 00:35:36,440 --> 00:35:37,920 Speaker 2: Just Carea Davis on Substack. 638 00:35:38,160 --> 00:35:39,399 Speaker 3: This has been Tony Katz today. 639 00:35:39,440 --> 00:35:43,879 Speaker 2: God bless you and God bless America.