WEBVTT - Episode 4652: Tony Katz Today Hour 1 - 08/06/26

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<v Speaker 1>Live from Vall Heartbyer and the Crossroads of America. It's

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<v Speaker 1>Tony Katz today. The deal is so close you can

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<v Speaker 1>almost taste it. A deal with Iran and Omon and the.

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<v Speaker 2>Strait of Hormuz and blah blah blah blah blah blah blah.

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<v Speaker 2>I hate the fact that I have to start this way,

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<v Speaker 2>but I got to assume more. The lack thereof is

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<v Speaker 2>the top story. I don't know. Maybe it is Abdullah

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<v Speaker 2>al said, being the tough guy. It's so adorable. He

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<v Speaker 2>is precious, he really is. He's like having your very

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<v Speaker 2>own Tamagachi. Don't forget to feed him. Or there's Tucker

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<v Speaker 2>Carlson with his ten point declaration of what a political

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<v Speaker 2>party in America should be, which sounds like a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of things we would say, except of course, without the insanity.

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<v Speaker 2>And Marjorie Taylor Green Tony Katz, Tony Katz today, an

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<v Speaker 2>absolute pleasure to be with you.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm going to get into what he said, because.

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<v Speaker 2>It's the funny thing is that I think Tucker doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>understand how he's coming across. And I am more and

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<v Speaker 2>more convinced that the marketplace for his madness is slight,

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<v Speaker 2>very very slight and certainly who he has picked to

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<v Speaker 2>align himself with it puts in the same position. Certainly

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<v Speaker 2>when it comes to the idea of war, certainly.

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<v Speaker 3>Comes to what's going on with Iran.

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<v Speaker 2>There are people who want to scream America first, with

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<v Speaker 2>all due respect, If taking out a terrorist which that's

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<v Speaker 2>trying to kill you isn't America first, I'm not exactly sure.

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<v Speaker 3>What is Marjorie Taylor Green.

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<v Speaker 2>Again, I repeat myself, no serious political anything is done

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<v Speaker 2>with Marjorie Taylor Green, none.

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<v Speaker 3>Zero.

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<v Speaker 2>Tucker has still has the opportunity to be taken seriously,

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<v Speaker 2>far more seriously than her.

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<v Speaker 3>But you're gonna align with her.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, all right, Sure, we're gonna spend even less time

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<v Speaker 2>thinking about you. I'm gonna get into that. I will

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<v Speaker 2>get into the tough guy commentary of Abdullah al Sayid,

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<v Speaker 2>because if he thinks that the issue is nobody can

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<v Speaker 2>pronounce abdu ra Chlan, well that's not the issue. The

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<v Speaker 2>issue is whether or not you're an Islamo Marxist, whether

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<v Speaker 2>or not you.

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<v Speaker 3>Have connections to care.

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<v Speaker 2>The Council of American Islamic Relations, which is a front

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<v Speaker 2>group for the Muslim Brotherhood, as said by the UAE,

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<v Speaker 2>designated a terrorist group by Florida and Texas, and oh,

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<v Speaker 2>by the way, not a very good group of people

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<v Speaker 2>as Islamist apologists.

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<v Speaker 3>My take on that one.

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<v Speaker 2>They may disagree, but you're gonna complain about APAC, Oh honey,

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<v Speaker 2>kit and boo boo, and then you're gonna get tough

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<v Speaker 2>with Mike Rogers, the Republican running.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, we'll get into that too.

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<v Speaker 2>But can I start not even with what's going on

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<v Speaker 2>with the RAN because there's nothing really to report. It's

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<v Speaker 2>the same as it ever was, and the oil prices

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<v Speaker 2>are showing this.

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<v Speaker 3>We're actually up this morning.

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<v Speaker 2>Like when I was doing my morning show, we were

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<v Speaker 2>at seventy five dollars a barrel. Now we're at seventy

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<v Speaker 2>seven dollars a barrel midday.

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<v Speaker 3>The brend crude was.

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<v Speaker 2>Just at about eighty now is at eighty two thirty eight.

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<v Speaker 2>The Brench crew is what comes out of the ocean,

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<v Speaker 2>so we're seeing a tickup.

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<v Speaker 3>But put that to the side as well.

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<v Speaker 2>Can we agree The one thing in American society can

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<v Speaker 2>we agree on, please, is f the flock cameras can

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<v Speaker 2>say that, right, Parducier landing, Can I get a ruling.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, as long as the last three letters do not

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<v Speaker 3>get spelled.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, as long as the last three letters do not

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<v Speaker 2>get spelled.

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<v Speaker 3>Of the flock camera? Oh that one? Yes? Oh that

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<v Speaker 3>I can say. Okay, so I did it right?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeh that Maybe I got it confused. That could have

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<v Speaker 3>just been terrible.

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<v Speaker 2>There is a story out of NewsNation newsnationnow dot com.

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<v Speaker 3>All eight flock.

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<v Speaker 2>Cameras, according to the Wenona Police Department, Wynona, Minnesota, all

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<v Speaker 2>eight of them.

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<v Speaker 3>Which are next to the Wisconsin border.

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<v Speaker 2>We're missing. Somebody stole all eight flock cameras. Now, I

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<v Speaker 2>do not condone the theft, and that is wrong. But

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<v Speaker 2>let us discuss the American discussed of the flock camera.

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<v Speaker 3>So what is a flock camera? Great?

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<v Speaker 2>Great, great, great question. This is the idea of surveillance.

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<v Speaker 2>So flock safety is the website flocksafety dot com Clear evidence, safer, communities,

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<v Speaker 2>privacy first, and it reads their website right there on

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<v Speaker 2>their page. Flock connects communities, businesses and public safety, so

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<v Speaker 2>incidents may be understood clearly and decisions can be made

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<v Speaker 2>on facts. Okay, I should be clear that what I'm

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<v Speaker 2>about to discuss has nothing to do specifically with the

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<v Speaker 2>company Flock. I don't know much about the actual company.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't mind a company being in business. These are

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<v Speaker 2>not the things that I concern myself with, and they

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<v Speaker 2>are not the only company that is in this business.

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<v Speaker 2>There is also a company called is it a lawn

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<v Speaker 2>aln that does this picture the scenario. You want to

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<v Speaker 2>keep your community safe, you want to keep an eye

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<v Speaker 2>on things. You work with a group like Flock, and

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<v Speaker 2>they install cameras all around your city and that allows

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<v Speaker 2>the local police department to keep the better eye on things.

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<v Speaker 2>And so if there's a criminal on the loose, or

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<v Speaker 2>if someone's doing this, that or the other, the police

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<v Speaker 2>can handle it and we can stop the crimes. When

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<v Speaker 2>a private business does this, I have zero issue with

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<v Speaker 2>it whatsoever. So I work with a group, right, I

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<v Speaker 2>work with a group called Who's Your Security? I do

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<v Speaker 2>work with them. I'm very clear about this. They have

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<v Speaker 2>a website Catchthebadguys dot com, which their entire world is

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<v Speaker 2>how to utilize.

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<v Speaker 3>As a matter of fact, Armando, give me a call.

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<v Speaker 2>How do you utilize your camera like your existing security

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<v Speaker 2>camera with their AI tech? And the philosophy is, why

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<v Speaker 2>can't we stop the crime while it's happening, really before

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<v Speaker 2>it gets going, so we can actually arrest somebody instead

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<v Speaker 2>of having a camera saying, oh, look there's the guy

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<v Speaker 2>who robbed me stole all my stuff. You could actually

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<v Speaker 2>do something about it. I have zero issue with that whatsoever.

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<v Speaker 2>On the private level, none, absolutely none. And they've got

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<v Speaker 2>like tools that you can get for this kind of thing,

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<v Speaker 2>and trailers you can rent, like if you have like

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<v Speaker 2>like car lots or construction sites and things like that,

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<v Speaker 2>totally fine, absolutely fine. The prime if you have home

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<v Speaker 2>security and you have cameras, that's fine. I have cameras,

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<v Speaker 2>of course I do. I don't like the idea that

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<v Speaker 2>government comes and knock and saying, hey, can we get

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<v Speaker 2>access to your footage. That's where it starts to get weird.

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<v Speaker 2>I am discussing the idea of government surveilling the citizenry,

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<v Speaker 2>no matter how it is described. In the end, what

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<v Speaker 2>is happening is that local governments are utilizing these cameras

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<v Speaker 2>and putting these cameras up, and oh, the police departments

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<v Speaker 2>love them. They're surveiling the citizen ran where I happen

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<v Speaker 2>to live. The mayor, she's lovely, by the way, I

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<v Speaker 2>like her. On a great number of subjects. She's wrong

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<v Speaker 2>on this. The police department is thrilled with these cameras.

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<v Speaker 2>They were able to catch three people who were wanted

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<v Speaker 2>from a county just below us.

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<v Speaker 3>The only way to know that.

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<v Speaker 2>Is if you are surveiling all the people who are

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<v Speaker 2>walking down Main Street and where I live quite literally

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<v Speaker 2>Main Street, right, That's the only way it can happen.

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<v Speaker 2>The government has absolutely no right to surveil the citizen,

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<v Speaker 2>and no citizen should think a rational society has surveillance.

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<v Speaker 2>China has surveillance, NonStop cameras in all plays, at all times.

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<v Speaker 2>They have what are referred to as social credit scores.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you smile enough? Did you pick up that piece

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<v Speaker 2>of garbage? Well, if your social credit score isn't high enough,

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<v Speaker 2>no travel for you.

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<v Speaker 3>No opportunities for you.

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<v Speaker 2>As a matter of fact, you get less your rights

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<v Speaker 2>to the extent that you can have a right in

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<v Speaker 2>a communist nation, whether that be in all of China

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<v Speaker 2>or in Manhattan under Bondani, they get taken from you

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<v Speaker 2>because you are not acting appropriately and the camera is watching.

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<v Speaker 3>That is some Philip K. Dick kind of low class.

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<v Speaker 2>Stuff that is gross ugly beyond the pale obscenity. This

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<v Speaker 2>is the last thing a society should want. If you

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<v Speaker 2>want to know the real last thing a society should want.

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<v Speaker 2>What that happens when a society tries to equalize out

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<v Speaker 2>in certain ways. You should read Harrison Bergeron by Kurt Vonnegut.

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<v Speaker 2>You can actually see the movie with Julie Haggerty. I

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<v Speaker 2>think it's George c.

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<v Speaker 3>Scott.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a short film. It'll turn you, it'll turn your stomach.

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<v Speaker 2>But neither here nor there on this subject. We do

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<v Speaker 2>not want a society where we are surveiled.

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<v Speaker 3>And I will have.

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<v Speaker 2>This conversation with anybody in law enforcement anywhere, at any time,

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<v Speaker 2>whether you're a police officer, whether you're a police chief,

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<v Speaker 2>whether you're a sheriff, whether you're FBI retired. I start

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<v Speaker 2>with a baseline. It is not the job of the

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<v Speaker 2>citizen to make easier the job of law enforcement. When

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<v Speaker 2>I say easier, I am saying that my rights do

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<v Speaker 2>not get abused, misused, or taken, so it is easier

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<v Speaker 2>for law enforce. Horseman, not now, not Ever. The answer

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<v Speaker 2>is no, I understand the role of police. I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>a defund the police guy. Was it Bernie Sanders who

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<v Speaker 2>just said that, no serious democrat is talking about defunding

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<v Speaker 2>the police. Oh, I know, I've got this to Oh,

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<v Speaker 2>it's gonna kill me.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna find it.

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<v Speaker 2>I think Bertie just said that no serious democrat is

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<v Speaker 2>talking about defunding the police. Adorable. Of course they are,

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<v Speaker 2>and of course they want to.

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<v Speaker 3>I am not.

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<v Speaker 2>But I'm also not going to have a conversation about

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<v Speaker 2>putting my rights up for grabs.

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<v Speaker 3>Or up for debate.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you have a right to privacy in the public square.

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<v Speaker 2>We've answered that question really in America by saying no.

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<v Speaker 2>If my eyes can see you, you're not private, and

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<v Speaker 2>a recording device can be seen as nothing more than

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<v Speaker 2>your eyes. Now I'm paraphrasing this, but I I have

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<v Speaker 2>the general concept right that is of the private citizen.

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<v Speaker 2>If I am going to name the restaurant and someone

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<v Speaker 2>has decided that they're going to take my picture and

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<v Speaker 2>post it, oh look, Tony Katz went here.

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<v Speaker 3>First of all, that's weird. But secondly, they can do that.

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<v Speaker 3>They can do that.

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<v Speaker 2>That's different than whether your government should be able to

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<v Speaker 2>do that. Your government being restricted is what is so great.

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<v Speaker 2>That is what matters most. When President Obama complained about

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<v Speaker 2>the Constitution. He complained that it was a charter of

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<v Speaker 2>negative rights. It was a negative charter, which is to

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<v Speaker 2>say that the Constitution, if you were to give it

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<v Speaker 2>a read, he talks about what government cannot do to you.

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<v Speaker 2>It does not discuss what government must do for you.

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<v Speaker 2>I always thought that was a very frightening and ugly

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<v Speaker 2>thing for him to say. It is really a great

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<v Speaker 2>example of how diametrically opposed I am to that philosophy.

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<v Speaker 2>I do not want my government to do for me

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<v Speaker 2>outside of Article one, Section eight, provide for the common defense,

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<v Speaker 2>promote the general welfare, right solid.

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<v Speaker 3>Do I want them to have a military? Absolutely?

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<v Speaker 2>Do I want a government as small and as lean

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<v Speaker 2>as possible doing the basics, Yes, I do. Everything else

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<v Speaker 2>should be up to me. What with the tenth Amendment

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<v Speaker 2>ensuring that the rest of the rights are mine that

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<v Speaker 2>are not actually laid out there within the Bill of

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<v Speaker 2>Rights or within the Constitution itself, it belongs to us.

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<v Speaker 2>Restraining the government was the whole point, and Barack Obama,

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<v Speaker 2>the wait for it, constitutional scholar, seems to have missed.

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<v Speaker 3>He missed the points of the thing.

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<v Speaker 2>That's like reading the New Testament, being like so so.

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<v Speaker 3>Like, who is this Jesus guy? Again? You have missed

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<v Speaker 3>the point.

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<v Speaker 2>If you're not, if you can read that not under

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<v Speaker 2>the Constitution is about constraining government. It is about amplifying

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<v Speaker 2>the concepts of liberty now in and of itself. If

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<v Speaker 2>we have a constitution that we are saying that freedom,

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<v Speaker 2>absolute freedom, pure freedom is not the thing we were

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<v Speaker 2>going for. We are going for a rule of law.

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<v Speaker 2>We're looking for the maximum amounts of liberty, which means,

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<v Speaker 2>by definition, a level of guardrails. And we keep those guardrails,

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<v Speaker 2>and we keep them as wide away from each other

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<v Speaker 2>as possible. That's a liberty society. That's the society I favor.

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<v Speaker 2>Governments can't track you. If they could track you on

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<v Speaker 2>the street just because they put up the cameras well,

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<v Speaker 2>then what happened to the idea of search, Whatever happened

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<v Speaker 2>to the idea of the Fourth Amendment, whatever happened to

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<v Speaker 2>the idea of a warrant. They're already keeping tabs on you,

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<v Speaker 2>keeping tabs in your location. And we have seen the

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<v Speaker 2>videos out there, a police officer saying we know when

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<v Speaker 2>you left town, we know when you came back, we

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<v Speaker 2>know what you did.

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<v Speaker 3>Is that right?

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<v Speaker 2>And the worst is the officer acts like a total

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<v Speaker 2>scumbag in the videos, which must be something they train,

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<v Speaker 2>because no real person should ever act like that. So

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<v Speaker 2>there in Wynoda, Minnesota, they tore down the flock cameras

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<v Speaker 2>to stop this surveillance. You can't condone the law breaking

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<v Speaker 2>of the vandalism there.

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<v Speaker 3>But should you.

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<v Speaker 2>Vote out people who want the flock cameras and should

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<v Speaker 2>you vote to remove them?

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<v Speaker 3>Yes?

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<v Speaker 2>And should you vote for any any politico who wants

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<v Speaker 2>to install them? No? No, you should not keep it here.

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<v Speaker 2>This is Tony Katz today. Twelve states now having cyber

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<v Speaker 2>attacks on the water supply. Tony Kats Tony Katz today,

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<v Speaker 2>a pleasure to be with you everybody at Michigan and Minnesota.

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<v Speaker 2>We already in Minnesota, Georgia, New Jersey, and South Dakota

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<v Speaker 2>to the list. What's happening is that they are losing

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<v Speaker 2>critical remote control capabilities, forcing operators to switch to manual modes.

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<v Speaker 2>Hackers are getting access to pumps, valves, and water pressure.

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<v Speaker 3>The water itself.

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<v Speaker 2>Has remained safe, but you've got the fbiv EPA and

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<v Speaker 2>the Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency also known as SISSA

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<v Speaker 2>CISA warning that cyber threat actors had remotely accessed online

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<v Speaker 2>infrastructure for water and waste water systems in at least

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<v Speaker 2>seven states. Now, this is a good time to remind

0:17:08.359 --> 0:17:10.720
<v Speaker 2>people that you don't have to be a prepper. You

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<v Speaker 2>just have to be able to have some water in

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<v Speaker 2>the house to deal with a couple of days of

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<v Speaker 2>things all going apot. You are responsible for you, and

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<v Speaker 2>not everything is going to work all the time. There

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<v Speaker 2>are not only people trying.

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<v Speaker 3>To do us wrong. Sometimes things break.

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<v Speaker 2>If you're not prepared to have a few days of

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<v Speaker 2>water in the house, what are you doing?

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<v Speaker 3>What are you doing? You're just going to depend on

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<v Speaker 3>government to bring you water. You're not going to work

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<v Speaker 3>on it yourself. You should work on it yourself.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know if you've got to be like a

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<v Speaker 2>underground bunker prepper meals for three years, Mrs kind of guy.

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<v Speaker 2>I do think that you have to have some level

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<v Speaker 2>of preparedness. But this was the part.

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<v Speaker 3>That made me lose my mind.

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<v Speaker 2>The water agencies were advised to disconnect their operating programs

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<v Speaker 2>from the Internet and strengthen their password protections and firewalls.

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<v Speaker 2>And I said protections and firewalls passed passwords.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, yes, the tactics.

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<v Speaker 2>While people think this is Iranian backed hackers and not

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<v Speaker 2>one hundred percent sure that's what they think. It resembles

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<v Speaker 2>a twenty twenty three campaign by a group that was

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<v Speaker 2>linked to the Iranian Revolutionary Guard, which tapped into water

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<v Speaker 2>system controllers using default passwords. I'm telling you right now,

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<v Speaker 2>if some water system somewhere has a password of password,

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<v Speaker 2>I want everybody fired today, no pension, nothing, We physically

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<v Speaker 2>throw you out, and if you're on the second floor,

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<v Speaker 2>it's gonna hurt because we're still gonna throw.

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<v Speaker 3>Default passwords. What the heck is going on?

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<v Speaker 2>You're telling me that's somewhere the water system of name

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<v Speaker 2>that city has the password of one two three four

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<v Speaker 2>or because it was extra secure.

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<v Speaker 3>One two three four five.

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<v Speaker 5>Default password. I jumped out of my chair when I

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<v Speaker 5>first read that. That's Do you ever wonder whether or

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<v Speaker 5>not everybody's just gotten stupid?

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<v Speaker 3>Well there could be an answer, at least some.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm Tony Katz, so I found the clip the audacity

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<v Speaker 2>of these people. Bernie Sanders being asked a question from

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<v Speaker 2>the people over there pod Save America.

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<v Speaker 3>I think this is.

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<v Speaker 2>Clean producer car producer Land and the finger on the

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<v Speaker 2>dumb button just in case me. I'm Tony Katz the show.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh is Tony Katz today? And this was Bernie Sanders

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<v Speaker 2>being asked about.

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<v Speaker 3>Funding and defunding the police.

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<v Speaker 6>As a politics has always been focused on the material

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<v Speaker 6>needs of working class people, and I would say that

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<v Speaker 6>to the extent that you've broken from Democratic Party policy,

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<v Speaker 6>it's usually around economic issues, healthcare, et cetera. There are

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<v Speaker 6>some DSA candidates today, you know, including some who've won

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<v Speaker 6>their primaries the cycle, who've also talked about abolishing prisons,

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<v Speaker 6>defunding or even abolishing the police, abolishing borders. You've never

0:20:39.359 --> 0:20:42.040
<v Speaker 6>been for any of that. Are you worried that taking

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<v Speaker 6>those positions, which are unpopular with most voters and even

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<v Speaker 6>most Democrats, sort of hurt the movement that you've worked

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<v Speaker 6>really hard to build?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, you know, look, people.

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<v Speaker 4>Have different views and what you know as well as

0:20:57.359 --> 0:21:00.000
<v Speaker 4>I do that the right wing that's their job, right

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<v Speaker 4>they will take what one person said and put eighty

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<v Speaker 4>billion dollars of TV ads on it and make it

0:21:05.880 --> 0:21:09.520
<v Speaker 4>claim every Democrats supports that. I'm no serious person. Then

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<v Speaker 4>I know who is running for office believes in quote

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<v Speaker 4>unquote defunding the police.

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<v Speaker 2>Stop, just stop. Of course they do. Of course the

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<v Speaker 2>DSA does. Of course these communists do. It isn't some

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<v Speaker 2>Republican boogeyman. Eighty billion dollars worth of ads. It's embarrassing

0:21:29.040 --> 0:21:33.879
<v Speaker 2>from Bernie Sanders. Also in this interview, he looks so

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<v Speaker 2>much like the guys, the judges from the Muppet Show.

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<v Speaker 2>He looks he is a if he had a mustache.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know if it's Stadler or Waldorf. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know which one it is. But he's really showing his age, truly,

0:21:51.720 --> 0:21:53.840
<v Speaker 2>that a twenty three year old is listening to this

0:21:53.960 --> 0:21:57.359
<v Speaker 2>old man. Here he is lying to you. You have

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<v Speaker 2>candidate after candidate discussing defund the They've been doing so

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<v Speaker 2>for years.

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<v Speaker 3>This isn't some boogeyman.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know it, and he's twenty three year olds

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<v Speaker 2>know it, and these college students know it. And here

0:22:08.520 --> 0:22:10.600
<v Speaker 2>he is lying to you. Why would you buy into

0:22:10.640 --> 0:22:13.960
<v Speaker 2>that wall? If Trump lies to you, you say Trump's

0:22:14.000 --> 0:22:17.000
<v Speaker 2>lying to me, Bernie's lying to you. Just say it, man,

0:22:18.400 --> 0:22:22.880
<v Speaker 2>just say it. He's lying to you, plain and simple.

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<v Speaker 2>They really do want to defund the police. That's who

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<v Speaker 2>they are. So that was that was Bernie. Then there

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<v Speaker 2>is Abdul al Sayid el Sayed. I think it's really

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<v Speaker 2>pronounced el Sayed. I do want to say it properly.

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<v Speaker 2>So what he has done is he has won the

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<v Speaker 2>Democratic primary and he has now decided he's going to

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<v Speaker 2>be the toughest guy out there. Oh is he going

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<v Speaker 2>to be so tough, so strong, so vigorous. He's going

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<v Speaker 2>to keep telling everybody that he's not a not a socialist.

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<v Speaker 3>And he goes on a tear.

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<v Speaker 2>He is just playing all sorts of tough guy. And

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<v Speaker 2>after he gets the nomination he takes it to the

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<v Speaker 2>microphone and well, I'm gonna share it with you. I

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<v Speaker 2>think again it's clean. They're pretty sure landing, but just

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<v Speaker 2>in case you're ready. Good stuff who will do anything

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<v Speaker 2>Blue Cross, Blue Shield wants him to do, including raise

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<v Speaker 2>your rates.

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<v Speaker 3>Mike Rogers is a guy who introduced legislation to increase

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<v Speaker 3>the flow of opioids. He did that while I was

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<v Speaker 3>in high school.

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<v Speaker 5>Mike Rogers is a guy who's politics and vision and

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<v Speaker 5>perspective are old.

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<v Speaker 3>Mike Rogers is a guy who has never shot away

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<v Speaker 3>from a corporation.

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<v Speaker 1>He could do a favor for.

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<v Speaker 3>Mike Rogers is a guy who believe it or not,

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<v Speaker 3>what back the floor so he.

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<v Speaker 2>Can lick every single boot Donald Trump owns to pay

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<v Speaker 2>for his endorsement.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm soos are.

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<v Speaker 5>If you want a senator's gonna lick some boots, fine,

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<v Speaker 5>go vote for Mike Rodgers.

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<v Speaker 2>But if you want a senator who's gonna stand up

0:24:14.160 --> 0:24:15.560
<v Speaker 2>to Donald Trump, then you've.

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<v Speaker 3>Got your option right here.

0:24:19.440 --> 0:24:25.240
<v Speaker 2>He'll stand with care, he'll stand with communists, and everybody

0:24:25.240 --> 0:24:27.679
<v Speaker 2>he disagrees with is a boot licker.

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<v Speaker 3>So tough and so bold. He also said of Mike

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<v Speaker 3>Rogers that if you want to.

0:24:47.520 --> 0:24:49.960
<v Speaker 2>Get tough, it's gonna work out very bad for you.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, it's an obvious, obvious threat that he is

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<v Speaker 2>putting out here when he says, you're not going to

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<v Speaker 2>have safe quarter from people holding you accountable.

0:25:11.920 --> 0:25:15.600
<v Speaker 3>He said those words about Mike Rogers.

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<v Speaker 2>The Republican You are not going to have safe quarterer

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<v Speaker 2>from people holding you accountable. So we understand that that's

0:25:27.240 --> 0:25:35.640
<v Speaker 2>a threat, right, We understand that it's a threat. It's

0:25:35.800 --> 0:25:40.760
<v Speaker 2>clearly a threat. But it's part of what is obviously

0:25:40.840 --> 0:25:47.840
<v Speaker 2>calculated as the need to be a tough guy for

0:25:47.920 --> 0:25:51.000
<v Speaker 2>the people in Michigan. Because not only is he gonna

0:25:51.280 --> 0:25:56.360
<v Speaker 2>get tough with Mike Rogers. He said of Mike Rogers

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<v Speaker 2>that if you want to come and have a conversation,

0:26:04.720 --> 0:26:07.919
<v Speaker 2>well you won't be able to handle the questioning, and

0:26:08.000 --> 0:26:13.639
<v Speaker 2>you're going to wither under the questioning because of the

0:26:13.760 --> 0:26:15.160
<v Speaker 2>crimes you have committed.

0:26:16.359 --> 0:26:24.719
<v Speaker 3>What crimes did Mike Rogers commit? What crimes did he commit?

0:26:26.080 --> 0:26:28.000
<v Speaker 2>He served in the US Army from eighty five to

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<v Speaker 2>eighty nine. What crimes did he commit? He was a

0:26:31.920 --> 0:26:35.080
<v Speaker 2>special agent with the FBI from eighty nine to ninety four.

0:26:39.680 --> 0:26:42.399
<v Speaker 2>He was interviewed to be the director of the FBI

0:26:42.640 --> 0:26:51.760
<v Speaker 2>after Comy was dismissed. What crimes serving our country twice?

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<v Speaker 2>But Abdul I'll say it also wants to be a

0:26:56.359 --> 0:26:59.760
<v Speaker 2>tough guy on his name, and he decides to pull

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<v Speaker 2>this Sonny hosting card and say, if you can't pronounce

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<v Speaker 2>my name, don't talk about me.

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<v Speaker 3>You know they think that you want to use my

0:27:07.080 --> 0:27:08.040
<v Speaker 3>whole name against me.

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<v Speaker 2>Mike, listen, man, if you can't say the name is

0:27:10.800 --> 0:27:15.640
<v Speaker 2>keep the name out your damn mouth. If you haven't

0:27:15.680 --> 0:27:20.560
<v Speaker 2>give me lessons, you'll give me lessons in what keeping

0:27:20.600 --> 0:27:21.240
<v Speaker 2>your name.

0:27:23.240 --> 0:27:24.439
<v Speaker 3>Out of my mouth?

0:27:27.520 --> 0:27:31.840
<v Speaker 2>Your website reads Abdul for Senate dot Com.

0:27:31.880 --> 0:27:34.840
<v Speaker 3>Look at it, it's right there. It's right there.

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<v Speaker 2>If you're part of the live stream on YouTube and rumble,

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<v Speaker 2>it's right there, it says Abdul for Senate dot Com.

0:27:43.440 --> 0:27:47.160
<v Speaker 2>You call yourself Abdul because you didn't think the voters

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<v Speaker 2>were capable of pronouncing adul Rahman. Oh, I can say it,

0:27:52.560 --> 0:27:57.440
<v Speaker 2>I guess I can say things about you now, tough guy. Look,

0:27:57.840 --> 0:28:02.760
<v Speaker 2>I'm not the strongest, I'm not the biggest, not the fastest.

0:28:03.640 --> 0:28:04.840
<v Speaker 3>I accept this about me.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll say anything I want about you anytime I want

0:28:09.160 --> 0:28:12.679
<v Speaker 2>to say it about you. And there is no fear

0:28:12.760 --> 0:28:15.199
<v Speaker 2>that I have that you're going to get angry with me.

0:28:15.880 --> 0:28:19.280
<v Speaker 2>Get angry. Can't help that. I don't think you should

0:28:19.560 --> 0:28:21.720
<v Speaker 2>people say things about me all the time.

0:28:23.080 --> 0:28:24.160
<v Speaker 3>Move on with your day.

0:28:24.520 --> 0:28:26.800
<v Speaker 2>I know what it's like to get angry, and I

0:28:26.880 --> 0:28:28.760
<v Speaker 2>know what it's like to act inappropriately.

0:28:29.119 --> 0:28:30.840
<v Speaker 3>And I didn't mine on CA.

0:28:31.440 --> 0:28:35.160
<v Speaker 2>It wasn't even cable news, it was public access nonsense.

0:28:36.080 --> 0:28:39.360
<v Speaker 2>Learned a lot from those days. I would not have

0:28:39.400 --> 0:28:41.760
<v Speaker 2>been a good candidate in those days, nor would I

0:28:41.760 --> 0:28:44.680
<v Speaker 2>have been a good radio host in those days. You learn,

0:28:45.640 --> 0:28:51.600
<v Speaker 2>you grow, you get smarter, you stop being dumb. But

0:28:51.680 --> 0:28:54.720
<v Speaker 2>you don't play the tough guy. There's one thing that

0:28:54.800 --> 0:28:58.880
<v Speaker 2>I have learned is that you don't play the tough guy.

0:28:59.360 --> 0:29:10.280
<v Speaker 2>The tough thing it's never tough. It's never, ever ever

0:29:11.760 --> 0:29:20.600
<v Speaker 2>tough comes across as weird and it's performative. Honestly, you

0:29:20.600 --> 0:29:23.080
<v Speaker 2>could might not just be a finance bro and put

0:29:23.080 --> 0:29:30.400
<v Speaker 2>on a vest. What are you doing. I know what

0:29:30.480 --> 0:29:34.840
<v Speaker 2>it is like to do the wrong thing. You shouldn't

0:29:34.840 --> 0:29:38.160
<v Speaker 2>do the wrong thing. But if you think we can't

0:29:38.240 --> 0:29:42.800
<v Speaker 2>talk about you and your nonsense policies, and you're lying,

0:29:43.120 --> 0:29:47.360
<v Speaker 2>as I see it, to the people all around you.

0:29:49.680 --> 0:29:51.520
<v Speaker 2>If you can't say my name, keep it out of

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<v Speaker 2>your mouth.

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<v Speaker 3>Stop. We're gonna discuss you and your policies.

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<v Speaker 2>And oh the one hundred and fifteen thousand dollars you

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<v Speaker 2>took from CARE, the counsel from American Islamic Relations, a

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<v Speaker 2>front group as described for the Muslim Brotherhood, a terrorist

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<v Speaker 2>organization deemed the terrorist organization is CARE by the UAE.

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<v Speaker 2>Buy Florida, buy Texas, and let's start there, a do Rahan.

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<v Speaker 2>Taking money from CARE is worse than taking money from APAK.

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<v Speaker 2>What I just needed that to soak right, just needed

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<v Speaker 2>that to hang out there in the ether for a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit.

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<v Speaker 3>Let me say it again, for the people in the

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<v Speaker 3>cheap seats.

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<v Speaker 2>If you take money from Care, that is far more

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<v Speaker 2>problematic than if you take money from APAK. People who

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<v Speaker 2>take Care money can't be elected to office. People who

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<v Speaker 2>take Care money are connected to some of the worst

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<v Speaker 2>bigotries and atrocities. Ever, how about just the subjugation of

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<v Speaker 2>women within their own culture. Because I'm watching right now.

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<v Speaker 3>There is Abdu Rachmann. He has guy, he's.

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<v Speaker 2>Got his collar open, he's got a button unbuttoned, and

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<v Speaker 2>it's wide open, and there's his face for everybody to see.

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<v Speaker 3>And then to the left is.

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<v Speaker 2>A Muslim woman who has to wear a full head

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<v Speaker 2>covering and long sleeves and everything else.

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<v Speaker 3>He he's find and open. She's not.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, Tony, you can't talk about culture, you bet?

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<v Speaker 3>I can. You know why I can pronounce his name?

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<v Speaker 2>If we want to do this, We're gonna do all

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<v Speaker 2>of this, guys, and I think we should.

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<v Speaker 3>So I start where I start. Taking money from Care.

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<v Speaker 2>A front group, as described as reported, taking money from

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<v Speaker 2>Care is far more disqualifying. Nope, say it differently, Tony

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<v Speaker 2>taking money from care is disqualifying. Taking money from APAC

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<v Speaker 2>you cannot like, but it's certainly not disqualifying. Care is worse.

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<v Speaker 2>If a pack is bad, care is worse. This is

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<v Speaker 2>my take. A pack is Americans care. I'm not so

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<v Speaker 2>sure neither are you, not that you cared at all?

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<v Speaker 2>And Care is going to front a group, a terrorist

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<v Speaker 2>group as described that thinks that that woman should live undercover,

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<v Speaker 2>quite literally.

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<v Speaker 3>But this will get us.

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<v Speaker 2>Into the common of Islam as a political system, not

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<v Speaker 2>a religion, and that's going to be a whole nother subject.

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<v Speaker 2>Although it is a political system and not a religion.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not going to apologize for saying. So see what

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<v Speaker 2>happens when you do the tough guy thing. See now,

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<v Speaker 2>you're not talking about policy, We're talking about the kind

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<v Speaker 2>of person you are. And the kind of person you

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<v Speaker 2>are is not the kind of person who has the

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<v Speaker 2>temperament who can be an elected office.

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<v Speaker 3>Just not.

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<v Speaker 2>This is the start of a very long conversation that

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<v Speaker 2>we're going to be having through November.

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<v Speaker 3>Keep it here. This is Tony Katz. Today.

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<v Speaker 2>I was looking at the markets which are down right now,

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<v Speaker 2>and then I read that Ford has Ford not learned

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<v Speaker 2>a lesson or does for see an opportunity. I'm talking

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<v Speaker 2>about Ford Motor Company, Tony Katz, Tony Katz today guys.

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<v Speaker 2>Great to be with you, live streaming on YouTube and

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<v Speaker 2>rumble Tony Katz, go to a Twitter or are also

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<v Speaker 2>known as ex Tony Katz, Facebook, Tony Katz Radio. Ford

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<v Speaker 2>did the F one fifty Lightning. Now, I have driven

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<v Speaker 2>the lightning many times over. I used to work with

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<v Speaker 2>a local car dealership and they would provide a vehicle

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<v Speaker 2>and it was the Lightning, which is the electric F

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<v Speaker 2>one fifty.

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<v Speaker 3>And I'm telling you it's outstanding.

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<v Speaker 2>The speed is nuts, the comfort is great, It's outstanding.

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<v Speaker 2>I loved it, loved it. Tried to buy one. Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>I tried to buy an electric because I work from

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<v Speaker 2>home and stuff and so you know, I have studio

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<v Speaker 2>things and everything else. So it seemed to work. The

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<v Speaker 2>price they wanted was insane. No one's buying them. The

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<v Speaker 2>price they wanted was surreal. Then you read that Ford

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<v Speaker 2>is taking a look at another EV platform, which they

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<v Speaker 2>call you EV Universal Electric Vehicle. It's a new platform

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<v Speaker 2>and they are coming out with the Ford Fathom and

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<v Speaker 2>the Ford Fathom is going to have a starting price

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<v Speaker 2>of twenty nine nine and forty five dollars. It's going

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<v Speaker 2>to be a pickup thirty thousand dollars electric pickups. They're

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<v Speaker 2>a market for this.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>Pre Orders for a five passenger truck will begin in

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<v Speaker 2>early twenty twenty seven. It'll deliver summer or fall in

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<v Speaker 2>twenty twenty seven, and there's no images of what the

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<v Speaker 2>truck looks like yet. They're doubling down on EVS. I

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<v Speaker 2>have questions. This is Tony Katta today