Speaker 1: The Frames per Second podcast, What's.
Speaker 2: Going on as your boy Nick I am here with
Speaker 2: I am Spike Lou caught up though modest media.
Speaker 3: Yeah whatever, man, what's going on?
Speaker 4: And Kenneth by Oh you're now tuned into the France
Speaker 4: Second podcast And in this episode we are concluding our
Speaker 4: I guess Batches recaps of the Ken is still a hit.
Speaker 1: I think so. I think it's I think it's crossing
Speaker 1: over a little bit more.
Speaker 4: Now, okay, with the hit Hulu original series season two
Speaker 4: of it, we're finishing out the second half of Paradise
Speaker 4: starring Sterling K.
Speaker 2: Brown.
Speaker 4: So yeah, these this recap will be dedicated to episodes
Speaker 4: five through eight because we already did one through four.
Speaker 4: Make sure you go check that out. So yeah, let's
Speaker 4: let's get into it. Let's pick up where we let
Speaker 4: off this time. I actually brought up I watched all
Speaker 4: the episodes beforehand. Take a break and cool. I'm pious
Speaker 4: your thoughts on the second half? Did he did he
Speaker 4: match the first half?
Speaker 5: Mm hmm. I was a little concerned when when I
Speaker 5: started saying about the time travel stuff.
Speaker 3: I didn't.
Speaker 1: I didn't.
Speaker 5: I didn't see all the murmurs about it being that
Speaker 5: type of show. But the more you know they got
Speaker 5: into the story, the more I understood it. You know
Speaker 5: how you know, if you if you have infinite amount
Speaker 5: of money like that, you probably would try to figure
Speaker 5: out the craziest shit. You could probably figure out like
Speaker 5: that money you know can buy or whatever. So it
Speaker 5: makes it started to make a lot of sense when
Speaker 5: you start thinking about people that live a certain way.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 5: So once I, once I settled into that part, I
Speaker 5: was like, yeah, this is this is still a really
Speaker 5: solid show for me. So I think, you know, I
Speaker 5: think I think it was fine. I'm not I'm still
Speaker 5: not sure if this one is better than the last season,
Speaker 5: but I think it's still a solid solid show.
Speaker 2: Yeah, what about your lou?
Speaker 6: I differ from that, I'm concerned. I'm concerned that this
Speaker 6: season three is gonna be everywhere. I did not like
Speaker 6: the time travel element. I don't think they fully understood
Speaker 6: and explained it for us as viewers to understand. And
Speaker 6: I know they got one more season they'll probably dive
Speaker 6: into it, but I wish, well, I would have liked
Speaker 6: this season more had they gave us more information on
Speaker 6: what the whole thing was doing and how it was
Speaker 6: affecting them with the nose bleeds. I didn't like that
Speaker 6: that may be her son, because that just didn't make
Speaker 6: sense to me. It was a lot of holes, I
Speaker 6: felt like, and the only reason that those holes were there,
Speaker 6: in my opinion, is they spent too much time elsewhere
Speaker 6: with those backstories. Like I enjoyed them in the more,
Speaker 6: but when we get to the last two episodes, I
Speaker 6: felt like they was Russian, so they could have took
Speaker 6: some of that other stuff out and just gave us
Speaker 6: more context everything that had to do at the end.
Speaker 6: But all in not, I was still entertained. But I'm
Speaker 6: gonna check out season three. But this season, to ask
Speaker 6: your question, was a big fall off of me, big
Speaker 6: fall off.
Speaker 2: Yeah, what about you, Ken?
Speaker 1: I still enjoyed it.
Speaker 7: I enjoyed the last batch of episodes far through a
Speaker 7: You know, they did introduce the time travel, but they
Speaker 7: didn't they didn't really spend a lot of time in it.
Speaker 7: So I think we'll get a lot of that in
Speaker 7: the third season. And they're only doing three seasons, right, yes, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 7: so I think we're good. I think we'll get a
Speaker 7: very very good, solid story, you know, from beginning to end,
Speaker 7: And I think this was thinking about it almost like
Speaker 7: reading it from a novel perspective, you know, towards the middle,
Speaker 7: you start introducing and giving some background of hoole these
Speaker 7: characters are and why they.
Speaker 1: Act the way they do.
Speaker 7: So I was okay with that, and I don't think
Speaker 7: it took too much away from the storyline. And I
Speaker 7: like the fact that they kind of concluded some of
Speaker 7: that shit, so none of that shit is lingering on
Speaker 7: as some shows tend to do.
Speaker 1: So I'm with it now. I'm ready to get into
Speaker 1: the science fiction part of it all.
Speaker 4: That's interesting that you say that, kid, because this show
Speaker 4: technically is a science fiction show, even though it's the
Speaker 4: premise is mostly about a world kind of apocalyptic accident
Speaker 4: or happenstance, but that's still in the sci fi realm.
Speaker 4: And I wasn't expecting them to do the literally take
Speaker 4: a quantum leap for how they want to end this series,
Speaker 4: but the way they did it made it more interesting
Speaker 4: for me as far as like how they work out
Speaker 4: the math of it, because I do think it's interesting
Speaker 4: from that perspective since we're talking about science, like, let's
Speaker 4: go into it kind of like some Project Hill Mary
Speaker 4: type shit. But I think there was a drop off
Speaker 4: this season, but it wasn't significant. I'm not with you
Speaker 4: on that.
Speaker 1: Look.
Speaker 4: It wasn't significant, but it was to the point to
Speaker 4: your that I agree with that we were elsewhere a lot.
Speaker 4: We even got a chain background, a Mailman background, which
Speaker 4: we would get into, like maybe we could have explored
Speaker 4: more about like how this is going on. That way,
Speaker 4: we can just focus on the third season being something
Speaker 4: that's more like finalized, because I feel like if the
Speaker 4: third season doesn't hit unexplained a lot of stuff, people
Speaker 4: will be like, damn well, you could argue there could
Speaker 4: be another there should be another season, you know. So
Speaker 4: I liked it overall, but like first season was great.
Speaker 2: This was just good. So we start off with episode
Speaker 2: five of the second season.
Speaker 4: Which is titled The Mailman, which we get introduced to
Speaker 4: Gary and some kind of sort of towards sterling k
Speaker 4: Brown's wife, like what happened during the whole accident as
Speaker 4: far as them not being able to communicate, and that
Speaker 4: was the last time he actually spoke to his wife
Speaker 4: until recently. What did y'all think about this episode and
Speaker 4: what did you'll think about Gary? Y'all start what you can.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 7: He definitely fit a lot of stereotypes as we moved along.
Speaker 7: Lonely guy mailman tried to be amend man and a
Speaker 7: couple of different ways when he got to stirle his
Speaker 7: wife and loner and creepy gamered us in the house
Speaker 7: all alone by himself and only making friends online and
Speaker 7: not you know, quote unquote outside, and they leaned into
Speaker 7: that sort of gamer stereotype of mentality that they have,
Speaker 7: and you know, these guys bonded and made a friendship
Speaker 7: you know, online, So I think his behavior they sort
Speaker 7: of used his background to kind of explain some things
Speaker 7: that went along, especially as we got the conclusion of
Speaker 7: the story.
Speaker 1: But you know it, it was cool.
Speaker 7: It made a lot of things make sense because those
Speaker 7: they would be the type sometimes to sit there, they're
Speaker 7: playing all these games, they're living in this fantasy world,
Speaker 7: and they would be the ones to kind of figure
Speaker 7: some ship out and find a way to survive. So
Speaker 7: they they played that ship out like they were doing
Speaker 7: some due Dungeons and Dragons type of ship and the
Speaker 7: ship just fucking came true. So so yeah, so now
Speaker 7: I was with he had he had a Yeah, I
Speaker 7: was with it.
Speaker 4: Rob was it just me when like during that whole
Speaker 4: exchange between him and I think us, I was thinking, like,
Speaker 4: it's gonna turn left. Like the guy he probably talking
Speaker 4: to any other thing, it's probably a lot more crazy
Speaker 4: than when he.
Speaker 2: Is coming off. As was that your thoughts going into
Speaker 2: that episode as you was watching it.
Speaker 3: I'm talking about his partner.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't know, I don't I don't know if
Speaker 5: I thought it was gonna turn crazy until he started
Speaker 5: looking like he was getting jealous of the situation or whatever,
Speaker 5: Like when he started, you know, getting closer to uh hisnme,
Speaker 5: what's his what is Randall's name? Sterling K's name in
Speaker 5: the show again? I forgot that, yeah x yeah, yeah,
Speaker 5: Once he started getting closer to his wife and stuff, Yeah,
Speaker 5: he started to feel like a loaner. It seemed like
Speaker 5: he started to feel like a loaner again. So I
Speaker 5: thought at that point, yeah, he might snap.
Speaker 3: But before that, no, I thought.
Speaker 5: They were just you know, just two nerves that you know,
Speaker 5: new apocalypse was coming and they knew how to to to.
Speaker 3: Prepare for it.
Speaker 5: So no, I thought this is I thought this was
Speaker 5: a very interesting setup episode.
Speaker 3: Person.
Speaker 2: Do you feel like it was needed?
Speaker 3: I like what it added.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 5: I like how it bridged just into a into a
Speaker 5: different group of people, you know what I mean, Like,
Speaker 5: like I think it did. I think it did its job.
Speaker 5: It showed what was going on on the outside while
Speaker 5: all this stuff was going on in Colorado.
Speaker 3: You knowee what I'm saying.
Speaker 5: Yeah, So I think it was a good way to
Speaker 5: kind of tie the two worlds.
Speaker 7: Like you, Nick, I did think I thought it was
Speaker 7: some psycho and I thought all that shit he was
Speaker 7: gonna turn on him and ship like that. So yeah,
Speaker 7: I've been watching too much TV, I.
Speaker 4: Like, I mean, how many shows that we all watched
Speaker 4: where it's like you need the well catfish, there's a
Speaker 4: whole favoite show about it, like Motherfucker's Online, just smoke
Speaker 4: speaking online, never seen each other, never meeting each other
Speaker 4: in personally, and then when you finally do it, it
Speaker 4: may not be what you think. But Lou, I'll ask
Speaker 4: you the same question asked right, Do you think this
Speaker 4: episode was necessary or did you like did you enjoy.
Speaker 6: That all in the moment, Yes, I didn't start thinking
Speaker 6: that some of this stuff needed to be cut out
Speaker 6: unto the end, when I feel like they were rushing
Speaker 6: that last episode, but in the moment, it was good
Speaker 6: to get context on dude.
Speaker 2: I liked what Ken said in the censure.
Speaker 6: It was the typical nerd gamer and if anybody would
Speaker 6: figure it out how to live through, it would be
Speaker 6: him and this dude that he made all the line.
Speaker 6: So they did that well. I think it was a
Speaker 6: good job. I'm not sure how much I needed it though, Yeah,
Speaker 6: it was.
Speaker 4: It was a very detailed episode because they had the
Speaker 4: whole his what it was his post office was was
Speaker 4: a cold war bunker and they ended up turning into
Speaker 4: and they had all the supplies.
Speaker 2: He was able to do that shit. I liked that,
Speaker 2: but we're gonna have to get to the Messican.
Speaker 3: I know you like it.
Speaker 4: Like Rod said, Xavier's wife pulls up early after we
Speaker 4: see Gary be like a good Samaritan and save that
Speaker 4: little boy from that them dope fiends that are his parents.
Speaker 4: But he's also, you know, somebody who literally just saved him,
Speaker 4: so he's he could be coming off as a people
Speaker 4: white guy, which is a savor. His wife wanted to intervene,
Speaker 4: but he ends up getting her trust. What did you
Speaker 4: think about their relationship dynamic and.
Speaker 1: What she was.
Speaker 2: She fouled for not he's giving him something.
Speaker 6: No, she wouldn't filed for like she's not gonna.
Speaker 3: Go for dude like.
Speaker 6: He a weirdough loyal and she's loyal. Yeah, I think
Speaker 6: her husband, well, I mean that lady was the weird
Speaker 6: that she was bad.
Speaker 2: I feel sad. That was a funny siege.
Speaker 1: That was.
Speaker 6: If that was Morris Chestnut to somebody, she probably would
Speaker 6: have went.
Speaker 1: Was like.
Speaker 6: You think it was all it was all about the tracks. Yeah,
Speaker 6: if it was Idris l but Morris Chestnut naming in
Speaker 6: one of them, like she would have went.
Speaker 1: All of them?
Speaker 6: You know what's all of them? Green Eyes.
Speaker 3: Tyler Perry movie.
Speaker 6: Yeah, Michael Michael Ely would have took her dame the
Speaker 6: first day. Michael Ely would have done it.
Speaker 1: The blue Eyes were bringing up.
Speaker 2: She would have been working with that radio.
Speaker 3: Who probably probably I ain't never.
Speaker 2: Going to see him again, brob.
Speaker 4: That was my thought, was like what she because at
Speaker 4: first it seemed because it seems like everybody in these
Speaker 4: situations when they with somebody that's showing them.
Speaker 2: Like favor kindness, especially because he really saved her life.
Speaker 4: Because we don't know what she was up doing like
Speaker 4: being out the street usually end up going like an
Speaker 4: emotional attraction and it leads to something physical. But as
Speaker 4: soon as he was trying something, she was like, she did.
Speaker 4: She told him she kept in the bang. Did you
Speaker 4: like what she said? When she was like, She's like,
Speaker 4: I appreciate it, but this would never.
Speaker 1: I can't give you that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Like, God, damn, I can't give you. Yeah. I
Speaker 3: thought I thought they But I did think they.
Speaker 5: Were gonna go there though, because I mean, Zab you
Speaker 5: went there, you know what I'm saying. So I was like,
Speaker 5: I guess you know you're gonna let her get her
Speaker 5: little piece too, But yeah, I didn't go there, So
Speaker 5: I was just like, wow, Wow, I didn't go there.
Speaker 5: So I thought that was interesting that, you know, they
Speaker 5: had him go there with it, but they didn't have
Speaker 5: her go there with it.
Speaker 7: You know, it was it was It was definitely a
Speaker 7: device to explain why he did what he did, which,
Speaker 7: you know, as we moved further along.
Speaker 1: To certain degree, maybe Louis as well. I don't know.
Speaker 7: I think this whole storyline was to get him to
Speaker 7: the train so they can get back to Colorado.
Speaker 2: That's I'm saying.
Speaker 3: It was a bridge to that.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 7: Yeah, so, and I guess they needed his actions in
Speaker 7: order to do that. So this was the way they
Speaker 7: wrote it because I'm like, because I was just thinking,
Speaker 7: I was like, we didn't really need to do all
Speaker 7: that ship, you know, with him and making advances towards
Speaker 7: her and becoming you know, jealous or whatever. But now
Speaker 7: we know why he as soon as he saw her,
Speaker 7: he was like, Okay, yeah, you can come with us,
Speaker 7: and you know, and us was like, no, we don't
Speaker 7: have enough room.
Speaker 1: But he was like, we're gonna make room. And that's what.
Speaker 3: This queen for. This queen.
Speaker 7: He tried to pull that if he tried to put
Speaker 7: the last man on Earth ship and.
Speaker 4: That's the reason why he went crazy out there.
Speaker 6: And you still don't want her, still don't want mine.
Speaker 7: The other girl with the other girl, So yeah, he
Speaker 7: losing out. I think even found somebody.
Speaker 2: M hmm.
Speaker 4: That's the fun around that was. But Ron, did you
Speaker 4: feel like him going crazy at the end? Was you
Speaker 4: shocked by that? Like he killed especially his best friend.
Speaker 1: He was talking too much. Sh he was talking away
Speaker 1: too much ship. He was sucking with him. Bro.
Speaker 7: He was like, yeah, she's about to leave. She about
Speaker 7: to get on this train. She about to get up
Speaker 7: out of here. What you got, She's gonna be long gone, right.
Speaker 6: That is what tipped him over. That's what God calls
Speaker 6: him shooting kid. Any of that can't nobody. You can't
Speaker 6: fun with nobody like that. Man, he got a short used.
Speaker 3: With him.
Speaker 4: I thought he was just being like a good friend
Speaker 4: likes about I did too, he could Finally.
Speaker 3: He was Yeah.
Speaker 6: With King, he was being petty. He was being paid.
Speaker 3: I thought.
Speaker 5: With Nick, I thought he was actually saying, Yo, this
Speaker 5: is your opportunity, you know.
Speaker 3: But yeah, damn you shot that nigga. Man, and I
Speaker 3: shot that nigga.
Speaker 4: My thing is like, how did you not say the
Speaker 4: gun point that you?
Speaker 3: He probably don't he would have shot him. There's no
Speaker 3: way he think he was going to do it.
Speaker 1: M hmm.
Speaker 3: Yeah, why would you think they caught me off guard?
Speaker 5: He called me, when did you keeep it up?
Speaker 7: It's when when in this apologized the story started to
Speaker 7: change and how it was written and it started to
Speaker 7: feel like you and even even Xavier said it. He
Speaker 7: was like, man, it's something not telling me and you
Speaker 7: probably need to go ahead and tell me now before
Speaker 7: it's too late, so you know, so he picked up
Speaker 7: on it too, and he just started seeming like he
Speaker 7: was just as it went on, just was was lying.
Speaker 7: But yeah, right around that apology, you know, it made
Speaker 7: it seem like he was really being sincere.
Speaker 1: That old boy was the one.
Speaker 7: Because when we got to the to the training at
Speaker 7: the people they were really really nice. They didn't seem
Speaker 7: like they were a problem. They were the people that
Speaker 7: were with uh uh uh Dylan's group, so we've seen
Speaker 7: another side of them that they hadn't seen. But when
Speaker 7: we got they were like, oh, yeah, everything's cool. You know,
Speaker 7: we're about to go to Colorado woo woo and uh
Speaker 7: and yeah everything, you know, everything was straight. So I
Speaker 7: was like, I don't think this is this is being
Speaker 7: told away.
Speaker 1: It happened. The way he's telling you, dude.
Speaker 6: Made it seem like they was terrorists something.
Speaker 2: They was they stole this girl.
Speaker 6: You're the only he was the only lonely ass person
Speaker 6: over there by himself. He could have went over there too,
Speaker 6: like he chose that life. It was he thinks it's
Speaker 6: just gonna be him and the black girl and the
Speaker 6: kid and they was gonna play house. Now, nigga were
Speaker 6: trying to get out of here. We ain't trying to
Speaker 6: stay in this post office for the rest of our life.
Speaker 4: Hey, but that was that was his life though, you
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. That was the world to us.
Speaker 1: But everybody was leaving. Uh who saying her boo love? Uh?
Speaker 7: Who els love? I think somebody else loved. So yeah,
Speaker 7: everybody was starting to know he was being left a long.
Speaker 2: Well, how did the kid get left there? Did they
Speaker 2: ever say that?
Speaker 1: I missed that?
Speaker 6: No, it was the kid with not because they had
Speaker 6: to go back and get him.
Speaker 1: They never trying.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, they never said how they were like white.
Speaker 6: I don't think that she would have left the little
Speaker 6: boy if they went back to go get him. So
Speaker 6: I wonder how he got back over They never like
Speaker 6: really elaborated.
Speaker 2: That's a good point.
Speaker 4: I never I didn't realize because I thought he was
Speaker 4: with the little boy was with her.
Speaker 6: No, because remember she went back to to get him,
Speaker 6: and that's when Yeah, he was Finn shoot him and ship.
Speaker 4: I guess that the whole little little boy didn't really
Speaker 4: need to be there.
Speaker 6: Honestly, he's gonna end up being somebody watch. I think
Speaker 6: that they're gonna they don't have no way down you think,
Speaker 6: So who's said.
Speaker 2: More likely gonna be somebody that the Little Boy.
Speaker 6: I think the Little Boy gonna end up being somebody.
Speaker 3: Hm hmmm.
Speaker 1: I don't think.
Speaker 7: I just don't see them that much. I got one
Speaker 7: more they don't. They have one more season, and that
Speaker 7: boy he didn't do a lot. He played on a
Speaker 7: broken ass slide and ran off.
Speaker 5: But yeah, I don't have no time to develop him
Speaker 5: to something else.
Speaker 6: Mm hmmm.
Speaker 2: Moving on.
Speaker 6: I feel like that's what the creator of this show.
Speaker 6: I just feel like that's what the creative show does.
Speaker 6: I know, Roch, you're watching this is Us now, like
Speaker 6: you have somebody just lingering and you wonder why they're
Speaker 6: and then they go into a whole episode about the
Speaker 6: significance of this person. I feel like they may spend
Speaker 6: an episode on the Little Boy next year, you know what.
Speaker 3: I could see that. I can see that, but I
Speaker 3: don't know.
Speaker 5: I do agree with the way that this guy produces
Speaker 5: his shows that he would be able to do that,
Speaker 5: But I just don't understand what that significance would be
Speaker 5: for the Little Boy, because we already got some significant
Speaker 5: people in the story, and the.
Speaker 7: Only way they can do that is with time travel,
Speaker 7: and that's that's that's the hell of a jump they
Speaker 7: would have to do.
Speaker 1: Then you're going back and forth. I don't know.
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Speaker 4: Moving on to the next Crazy White Person, we get
Speaker 4: to episode's fix called Jane.
Speaker 2: And when I was approaching this.
Speaker 4: Episode, I kind of took a break from the show
Speaker 4: a little bit because I was like, I was getting
Speaker 4: to lose point. But even before you set it on
Speaker 4: this episode, even then, I was like, bro, why are
Speaker 4: we doing a Jane episode? Like why do I need
Speaker 4: to know that what she's about? Like, let's get back
Speaker 4: to what we know what we need to. But this
Speaker 4: actually surprised me and I was exactly very interesting, probably
Speaker 4: one of the most interesting episodes of the second half
Speaker 4: of this season. What about you, Lue, what did you
Speaker 4: think about Jane and her Orchard story?
Speaker 1: I liked it.
Speaker 6: I liked it, and I liked it. They wrapped it
Speaker 6: up at the end as far I guess they wrapped
Speaker 6: it up. They really didn't show other than I guess
Speaker 6: her body was laying in the shower.
Speaker 2: But that made sense.
Speaker 6: It made sense that a psychotic person like Jane had
Speaker 6: that type of upbringing. Like I could see that, and
Speaker 6: I thought something.
Speaker 2: Did it play into the time travel too?
Speaker 8: It did?
Speaker 4: It did because because she got a text message or
Speaker 4: something in the beginning starts in like nineteen ninety seven
Speaker 4: when she's born, and it's a text message.
Speaker 2: That's like, what is it?
Speaker 4: It was?
Speaker 2: I don't if you.
Speaker 6: Remember a killer or something like that.
Speaker 4: It's gonna be evil. But she can't stop the world
Speaker 4: or something. She can be stopped on some goofy shit.
Speaker 6: Yeah, And that was the machine texting them, right, Yeah.
Speaker 2: That's nutsy.
Speaker 3: I like that texting email.
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, I didn't like that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, So technically right now.
Speaker 5: And another reason why it wasn't to bother is because
Speaker 5: it's not technically time trouble. It's just something. It's just
Speaker 5: like something predicting the future. So it's not time travel
Speaker 5: if you think about it, it's just this.
Speaker 2: But the machine talks back in time to get that
Speaker 2: that's crazy.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but that's not time travel. That's just it was.
Speaker 6: Just after it was built after nineteen ninety six, and
Speaker 6: it said the text back to nineteen ninety six.
Speaker 5: I understand, I understand, but that's what I'm saying like that,
Speaker 5: it's it's uh, but but there's no there's no time
Speaker 5: travel involved.
Speaker 3: At this moment.
Speaker 5: It's just it's just this machine that's able to predict
Speaker 5: what's going to happen in the future and then go.
Speaker 6: Back in the past and tell people about.
Speaker 5: It again, like it it's no one's no one has
Speaker 5: time trouble yet, are you talking about?
Speaker 4: Because it's the machine, you say, and fit like, there's
Speaker 4: no human being that's done time travel.
Speaker 5: There's no homany that's no human being that's done the
Speaker 5: time travel.
Speaker 3: And so that was that was a little bit of
Speaker 3: a saving grace for me. Honestly. Okay, wait a minute,
Speaker 3: it's not necessarily time travel.
Speaker 5: It's just this machine that could predict and then everybody
Speaker 5: can move based on that.
Speaker 6: I just feel like that's a neap manipulation of storytelling,
Speaker 6: Like to be able to say, oh, we built this
Speaker 6: machine in two thousand and whatever, and it can go
Speaker 6: back and text people in ninety five because it knows
Speaker 6: what's gonna happen one hundred years from the like that.
Speaker 6: That that just seems weird to me. It gave me
Speaker 6: Lost vibes, like the TV show Lost. Once they start
Speaker 6: exploring with time travel and stuff like that, it kind
Speaker 6: of jumped the shark.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I think it all depends on what they end
Speaker 7: up doing with Jane that season to have that thing
Speaker 7: go back in time, because you know, what was it?
Speaker 1: Did it?
Speaker 7: Since that message just to kind of prep us for
Speaker 7: the type of upbringing she has that led her to
Speaker 7: who she eventually became. Like we saw that so even
Speaker 7: before she was born, you know, saying oh, here's this
Speaker 7: killer coming, this killer coming, but we already knew that.
Speaker 7: So I don't know if there was necessarily a need
Speaker 7: for that other than explaining her actions and then showing
Speaker 7: that she was crazy. You know, when she locked it
Speaker 7: on Mama and the Damn.
Speaker 1: The Sun or whatever.
Speaker 3: And just watching her like that's crazy.
Speaker 1: Mm hmm, yeah, talking about crimply or whatever. So I
Speaker 1: don't know. I think it depends if she has if
Speaker 1: she has like.
Speaker 7: A bigger role to play moving forward, and why the
Speaker 7: machine was able to kind of predict her algorithmically and
Speaker 7: tried to go back and and accept that. Then it
Speaker 7: would make sense. But if it's just kind of pre
Speaker 7: characterize her for us, then we didn't really need it
Speaker 7: because we already know she fucking crazy. You could have
Speaker 7: just showed her having a rough upbringing and that she
Speaker 7: talked to imaginary people and that she went as far
Speaker 7: as to try to kill her own mom.
Speaker 2: Mm hmmm, we we know how crazy, Like.
Speaker 1: She liked that.
Speaker 7: Go ahead, go ahead, locking her mom and boyfriend in
Speaker 7: asauna wasn't enough crazy for you as a kid.
Speaker 4: What was actually crazy for me about this show, and
Speaker 4: I want to, you know, get rid of lose reaction
Speaker 4: was that black man that said the mamachair, what's the
Speaker 4: you gotta go?
Speaker 3: Like, sir, I was so confused. I was like, what
Speaker 3: is happening?
Speaker 4: Because my thing is like I don't care what it is,
Speaker 4: especially in ninety seven. If you get a bunch of
Speaker 4: emails talking about this thing is like this little person
Speaker 4: name whatever it is, gonna be crazy? Or are you
Speaker 4: really gonna look at the mama as supper as on
Speaker 4: the way out of the living room and say like, hey, bro,
Speaker 4: your baby crazy?
Speaker 2: Let me go kill it?
Speaker 5: Roughly, Yeah, that's crazy, ain't no way.
Speaker 7: And it's not like mom was out there too.
Speaker 4: It's not like the mama was looking for a side
Speaker 4: because she's looked at the baby cracking like shut up,
Speaker 4: like I've already.
Speaker 7: Think you're right, you know, because yeah, because she was
Speaker 7: in there, she was like are you should nobody's coming?
Speaker 1: She was like, get this motherfucker out of this room.
Speaker 7: So she don't know who the daddy is.
Speaker 1: It looks like the mom was out there, like what's
Speaker 1: the lady in the sports right now? Diana?
Speaker 2: No? Look?
Speaker 4: What was your thoughts on how we started off this
Speaker 4: episode going into the.
Speaker 2: The steamy sauna? You you're mute? I think, can't you
Speaker 2: hear me?
Speaker 3: Now?
Speaker 6: I didn't know where they were going with it, but
Speaker 6: once they did get there, it played it paid off
Speaker 6: like I liked it. It painted the picture we knew
Speaker 6: Jane was crazy, like can't say it, but still it
Speaker 6: did add more depth to her craziness. We've seen she's
Speaker 6: been sick since a child essentially, So yeah, I liked it.
Speaker 4: I like I like when she went to when we
Speaker 4: find out, like she grows up, she becomes a part
Speaker 4: of her. It's crazy, like these people are going to
Speaker 4: the military and government and jobs save people. But she
Speaker 4: rises up in the CIA, she got a black woman
Speaker 4: looking out for and right when she's like listen, like
Speaker 4: you you are a great student, but your psyching battles
Speaker 4: kind of fucked up, she's like, yeah, I hear voice,
Speaker 4: and she's like, listen, I don't.
Speaker 2: Want to hear that.
Speaker 6: Don't even tell right, right.
Speaker 2: That's what up.
Speaker 6: It's low key on the black that's a nigga ship
Speaker 6: to like, hey, bro, I don't even want to know, bro, Like,
Speaker 6: don't implicate me and.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 6: You're doing a great job. They praising me for it.
Speaker 6: Hey do whatever you do, bro.
Speaker 4: But that's see where her that relationship between her and
Speaker 4: her boss essentially.
Speaker 2: What what was your thoughts on that ride, especially how.
Speaker 5: Oh yeah that was crazy youre talking about when she
Speaker 5: went in, Okay, now you get you know you said
Speaker 5: when she told her, like, now you can get your promotion,
Speaker 5: I'm like, this motherfucker crazy, Like she.
Speaker 3: Is legit insane. Bro.
Speaker 5: She killed that man, bro, and then went back to
Speaker 5: her and was just like, yo, yeah, now you can
Speaker 5: do it.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. You say he's in a way,
Speaker 3: he ain't in a way no more.
Speaker 1: And the dick may have been in the back.
Speaker 2: She had that little what's that stuffing? Really brap on boat?
Speaker 3: Look?
Speaker 6: Man, it was nuts, bro, Literally that was nuts.
Speaker 1: Literally, we don't have to worry about that no more.
Speaker 2: They said that he was attacked right right exactly.
Speaker 5: Yeah my bad, Yeah, my bad. Yeah that's what man. Yeah,
Speaker 5: yeah that's crazy. She said he won't be a problem anymore.
Speaker 5: So he won't be a problem anymore. Bro.
Speaker 3: She took it literally.
Speaker 5: Yeah, she took it literally, like because yeah, because the
Speaker 5: black ladies like any because he got a penis or
Speaker 5: something like that.
Speaker 3: And she was like, well, she was like.
Speaker 2: He used to.
Speaker 3: It's like his wife right in real life, right is it?
Speaker 6: Yeah, so he do a podcast with his wife.
Speaker 5: Yeah, but but she shows to like yeah yeah that's her, yeah, because.
Speaker 3: She popped up in This is Us too.
Speaker 6: She was working with him about this show. Did y'all
Speaker 6: see that? It was a little clik and he was like,
Speaker 6: she was talking about that moment that Nick was talking
Speaker 6: about and she was like, uh so you're just gonna
Speaker 6: introduce your wife to the lady is your therapist. He
Speaker 6: was like, that's what she was. She was like, all right,
Speaker 6: niggas like it was real black shit. It was funny
Speaker 6: and she was like, yeah.
Speaker 3: Try to show on me.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 5: Basically, it was like trying on me, nigga. And then
Speaker 5: she wasn't being discreet about it either. She was just
Speaker 5: like yeah, you know, like it was just the way
Speaker 5: she was looking. I know we ain't got there yet,
Speaker 5: but yeah, she was.
Speaker 3: The way she was.
Speaker 5: The way she was looking like yo, you're trying to
Speaker 5: you blow it up the spot.
Speaker 3: She was blowing up the spot. That's crazy. Uh.
Speaker 4: Also in this episode, We're gonna get We're gonna close
Speaker 4: out with Jennings a little bit, but.
Speaker 2: We go back to see Gary and you know, save
Speaker 2: its little mission.
Speaker 3: They little.
Speaker 2: They got.
Speaker 4: They got this nigga starting came Brown thinking he the
Speaker 4: ad mission, impossible time.
Speaker 6: This nigga, what dude, dame, what's the nigga?
Speaker 9: Name.
Speaker 6: I have a very discreet set of skills. Will they
Speaker 6: be kidnapped?
Speaker 2: That's what he's need, Bron.
Speaker 4: He made the I E D out of Machee, Robert
Speaker 4: noodles and the goddamn Scott shape.
Speaker 3: This nigga limb and Tom cruise that nigga be running.
Speaker 4: Yeah, this has been dying, Bro. This niggabelt the bomb.
Speaker 4: He knew Gary was up to something, but he still trusted.
Speaker 2: Him with the trigger.
Speaker 3: Rock, Bro, blow that nigga up, Bro.
Speaker 4: Niggaig said, I gotta give my wife back either.
Speaker 3: He me too, right, he trying to blow that man.
Speaker 4: What'd y'all think about how this episode ended with with
Speaker 4: Gary Bron?
Speaker 1: I don't. I'm like, yeah, you you.
Speaker 7: He put a lot of trust in somebody that he
Speaker 7: just met, even though he expressed earlier a lack of trust.
Speaker 1: But it came with that white baby and his baby.
Speaker 7: And I don't even know, well he had the trigger,
Speaker 7: so I don't know that if that's why he brought
Speaker 7: him along on the mission. But you don't even really
Speaker 7: know this dude, and you're believing the story even though
Speaker 7: you feel like there's there's something off.
Speaker 1: About the story.
Speaker 6: So right to press the button.
Speaker 1: Not not once he to put the to put push
Speaker 1: the button on the on the bomb. Well yeah yeah,
Speaker 1: yeah yeah, that that was that.
Speaker 3: That was it.
Speaker 1: So yeah, I get that, but.
Speaker 7: I still don't know how this motherfucker didn't get spotted,
Speaker 7: Like it didn't seem like he was all that quiet.
Speaker 1: These motherfuckers are terrible.
Speaker 7: I know they said they're not trained soldiers away whatever,
Speaker 7: but he was just moving and broad. They like just
Speaker 7: hiding behind a box and nobody had to be walking around.
Speaker 2: Look, he had the Looney tunes like Roland bombs.
Speaker 1: Nobody lost.
Speaker 6: I was like, where everybody at bro like, nobody see this.
Speaker 2: I thought the same thing.
Speaker 4: We put too much respect on niggas who got the
Speaker 4: military great looking longs.
Speaker 6: You've got that little vest on and some cargo pants.
Speaker 6: You're good.
Speaker 2: But he tried to get. He tried to get.
Speaker 4: They were up early can because at first one they
Speaker 4: saw the dude like obviously like people coming by.
Speaker 2: He was like he had to hide it like between
Speaker 2: the trains. He was like, nigga, I told you to
Speaker 2: watch Yeah, that was your first time. I know that
Speaker 2: he ain't about ship facts.
Speaker 1: Or he's just really bad at the job. You need
Speaker 1: to send him home. Get go, Get go, get the
Speaker 1: black Biker.
Speaker 7: He would have looked out for it, even though he
Speaker 7: cussed about He was like, you're the only person came
Speaker 7: around here asked for goddamn battery.
Speaker 6: Ain't He's like, Nigga, you obviously know something I don't know,
Speaker 6: and I ain't whatever you know, I ain't helping you
Speaker 6: with it.
Speaker 1: I don't care.
Speaker 2: That's the nigga ship right there.
Speaker 1: Like it was, it was it was.
Speaker 2: He gave him the same energy the Black Boss gave James, Like, listen,
Speaker 2: you ain't got any person.
Speaker 1: You want to batter. No hell.
Speaker 2: Better trouble niggah boy.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that was funny.
Speaker 2: That bar was funny. Gary a piece of ship.
Speaker 4: Oh but Zavid finally finds his wife, bro, I was
Speaker 4: was it was a nice little moment.
Speaker 1: Did that?
Speaker 2: Did that mean anything to y'all?
Speaker 1: Like how she? That was cool?
Speaker 3: I like that.
Speaker 6: I like they didn't draw it out.
Speaker 1: I like it was.
Speaker 6: It was cool.
Speaker 2: It was perfect for the show.
Speaker 1: M hmm, yep. That's that's the thing I like the most.
Speaker 7: Spike is that finally we're not spending three eight seasons
Speaker 7: trying to find this damn woman.
Speaker 1: You know, she's on the train and she's there, and
Speaker 1: you know, I don't.
Speaker 7: Think they did a good job of listening to her though,
Speaker 7: But because she was like, because she was like, that's
Speaker 7: my husband, that's that's the one I've been looking for.
Speaker 7: That's the one I'm talking about. That's my husband. They
Speaker 7: don't want to hear any of that. Ship they still
Speaker 7: I would have popped. I would have popped his ass.
Speaker 7: Bro real talk the nigga come out of nowhere, clot.
Speaker 3: Blow up.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's my husband him.
Speaker 1: She called him something, and I forgot what she called him.
Speaker 1: It was something out of a movie. She said. He
Speaker 1: went full Jason boy, went Jason Bourne on us. He
Speaker 1: did up, Yeah, he did. That's one thing I gotta learn.
Speaker 7: I gotta learn how to damn take down my arm,
Speaker 7: motherfuckers when I'm surrounded by like three the motherfuckers just
Speaker 7: some guns.
Speaker 3: I think that time passed just watching Jason.
Speaker 6: I feel the same. What you finna learn that now.
Speaker 1: He was messing some post up in there though he
Speaker 1: will he bad dude man. But I liked that too.
Speaker 6: I also like we have context for that. It wasn't
Speaker 6: just like unbelievable. We know in general he a bad dude.
Speaker 6: We could tell from his previous post with the President.
Speaker 1: So I liked it.
Speaker 6: The skills come out in that don't seem just like man,
Speaker 6: come on, fathomable?
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: The only thing that was really like come on was
Speaker 2: like he'm flying a plane through hell.
Speaker 6: That was come up just because his daddy wants a pilot, Like, bro,
Speaker 6: it don't work there there.
Speaker 2: Crashed and live.
Speaker 4: Yeah, boy, his wife can't say ship. We're gonna get
Speaker 4: to that point. But that's the best case. I crashed
Speaker 4: the plane for your right as a married man. If
Speaker 4: you finally find your wife after amount of years and
Speaker 4: the nigga who tried to kill you, you gotta go
Speaker 4: get this little white boy too.
Speaker 1: Are you doing?
Speaker 4: Are you doing along with this thing with your wife?
Speaker 4: Just because she was like you means something to me?
Speaker 4: Are you saying, baby, let's get the fun up out
Speaker 4: of here. I got we got our kids to get
Speaker 4: back to Colorado.
Speaker 5: Well no, I mean because he was in the same predicament.
Speaker 5: He's just like, yo, we got a lot to catch
Speaker 5: up on. Because he had a little white baby. He
Speaker 5: was so I thought that was funny he had a
Speaker 5: little white baby. To me that he that he had
Speaker 5: to care for and then yeah, a little light, little
Speaker 5: white boy, she had the care for us. I thought
Speaker 5: that was I thought that was a funny moment in
Speaker 5: the in the ship.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I agree with Rod, you can't tell no black
Speaker 6: woman like, nah, we ain't gonna go do that, but
Speaker 6: I do got this little baby. They gotta come with us, Like,
Speaker 6: ain't no way that you're getting that off, Like, yeah,
Speaker 6: you gotta go get the other kid too, because you
Speaker 6: got this.
Speaker 1: Little kid with you, so right off?
Speaker 3: Right?
Speaker 2: Should should? He was just pop Gary and just get
Speaker 2: We could have cut this episode.
Speaker 6: I was shot Gary so many times, like shoot him.
Speaker 6: I kept saying that when I was just shoot him, bro.
Speaker 1: It, this was like.
Speaker 7: When when when this whole scene was always like we
Speaker 7: did all that for what? Like he didn't just kill
Speaker 7: him all all it was was a hug, that's it.
Speaker 7: What do we need all that drama for? Yeah, So
Speaker 7: I didn't really understand the meaning of her going back
Speaker 7: and talking to Gary because this motherfucker kidnapped this boy.
Speaker 7: You ran away from from this whole thing. You know,
Speaker 7: this motherfucker's fucked up, and you're just gonna go have
Speaker 7: a conversation with him.
Speaker 2: He almost killed your husband.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, no, you know he should have just shot
Speaker 1: him just off of that kid. Yeah, because the kid, that.
Speaker 7: Kid looked like, Yeah, he definitely is a product of
Speaker 7: a bad upright, of poor upbringing, because you know, he
Speaker 7: just be oblivious to the world. He'd tell that kid
Speaker 7: to go do something, he just run off and do
Speaker 7: it like everything is as hunky door. But I can
Speaker 7: definitely tell you that sterling K. Brown At saying fuck
Speaker 7: with that kid. That kid wanted to go play on
Speaker 7: that damn swing And as soon as he walked by
Speaker 7: the swing was like bring your ass off from He
Speaker 7: was like, man, this kid he had like there are
Speaker 7: no swings in this place. He just wanted to swing.
Speaker 7: He was like, hey, man, come on, we gotta go.
Speaker 7: But you know I would have killed that motherfucker bro.
Speaker 4: In fact, I didn't care for his monologue. I didn't
Speaker 4: care for his how he ramped up like he was
Speaker 4: a really nonchalant, low talking guy. Oh, soft spoken guy.
Speaker 4: Then all of a sudden, he just getting oisterous and
Speaker 4: about to throw chairs and ship and talking about let
Speaker 4: him kill me, let him kill me.
Speaker 7: I'm like, all right, bro, yeah, and even even saying like,
Speaker 7: well you know, the one thing they taught me when
Speaker 7: I was a lifeguard is to don't trade a drowning man.
Speaker 1: So when he told that story, I was like, oh, ship,
Speaker 1: he got some ship playing like but it was no.
Speaker 7: And then when she hugged him, I was like, damn,
Speaker 7: he just told you don't try to save a drowning man,
Speaker 7: which is him, And these tears and stuff went nowhere,
Speaker 7: and I'm like, that's it.
Speaker 1: We didn't make any of that.
Speaker 3: It made for attension in the moment. You know, it
Speaker 3: was a tense moment because you didn't know, like, Okay,
Speaker 3: we're gonna shoot him, and she's gonna she's gonna try
Speaker 3: to kill her.
Speaker 1: I feel, But the resolution it was just like the payoffs.
Speaker 6: Like I was like smoking and Friday the whole time,
Speaker 6: shoot him, shoot him shooting. I was like, get the
Speaker 6: old time watching.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I get that.
Speaker 4: I thought he was gonna have another bottom mon um
Speaker 4: as soon as she hugged it, like he took him
Speaker 4: both out.
Speaker 2: Certainly, can't looking stupid with the white boy.
Speaker 3: In the.
Speaker 6: White kids and that his wife did what he went on.
Speaker 7: Show options are insane. All these kids being white kids
Speaker 7: being put on It's so crazy. It's like the old days, Nick,
Speaker 7: Black people gotta take care of white.
Speaker 2: I ain't like that, kid. We're just over here trying
Speaker 2: to be the good Samaritan and ship.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I mean it could be the other way around.
Speaker 5: I think the other way around is worse, like white
Speaker 5: saviors for black kids and stuff. So I do like
Speaker 5: that they kind of flipped it, but but no, I
Speaker 5: think ultimately it was just supposed to show just how
Speaker 5: power she was mentally right, Like like she said to
Speaker 5: him like, you know, I didn't get this. I didn't
Speaker 5: get this far for nothing, you know what I mean,
Speaker 5: I know what I'm doing, And I think he had
Speaker 5: to trust her in that moment.
Speaker 9: She ain't no ship.
Speaker 2: We saw her journey wasn't never impressing. She got the
Speaker 2: white man was trying to fix it.
Speaker 1: And Nick Spike rod she wasn't even helping around the bunker. Dad.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I had to ask her. He was like, bro,
Speaker 6: like you're gonna be here, you gotta do something, like
Speaker 6: you can't just be here with the radio all day.
Speaker 6: Back to your husband.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because she was like saying, what's on your mind?
Speaker 1: Say it? Say it. She was talking to the mail man.
Speaker 7: He was like, well, everybody walking around here doing some
Speaker 7: work except you. She wasn't even working early. It was like, bro,
Speaker 7: she was doing.
Speaker 2: Little White Boy how to read this ship? Don't help us?
Speaker 3: That's funny.
Speaker 7: And why did she go get him earlier? She knew
Speaker 7: he was already there. Well, I guess she had protection.
Speaker 7: Now she should have took something like you. I agree
Speaker 7: with you, cause she should have took some of them
Speaker 7: people from the train over there to go get it.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well she didn't want she didn't want him to die.
Speaker 3: She didn't want him to die.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, you're right right.
Speaker 6: That might have been the only way he could have
Speaker 6: got out of there alive.
Speaker 1: So they don't. So no one knows outside of him
Speaker 1: that he killed in us. That's just lit.
Speaker 4: And he told her right before he was doing his
Speaker 4: monologue like I didn't mean what to what happened in
Speaker 4: this like my bad he was prior to that.
Speaker 7: No one knew but outside of the boy. And it
Speaker 7: seemed and this seemed like he told anyone.
Speaker 2: Yeah he did. Anybody can talk about this like that.
Speaker 1: True.
Speaker 4: Moving on to the next episode, the penn ultimate episode,
Speaker 4: we have final Countdown.
Speaker 2: This is where we see.
Speaker 4: Ship really start getting sucked up with at least with
Speaker 4: the with the old bunker. Obviously we see savor red
Speaker 4: night with his wife and get on the train.
Speaker 3: Uh all the way.
Speaker 2: I guess they I don't know where he was that
Speaker 2: kid because they got a trade ride from.
Speaker 4: We got on the Colorado. These niggas at train just
Speaker 4: happened to go by Denver.
Speaker 2: And how did you get the train to work?
Speaker 1: What was? They got mechanics and ship out there? That
Speaker 1: was gotcha? Okay, really was a mechanic. The nurse lied
Speaker 1: about what she knew how to do. Mm hmmm.
Speaker 4: Yeah, we see Snachra talks about. Finally we get more
Speaker 4: about the secrets about Alex. I think in the last recap,
Speaker 4: I thought Alex the person technically it was, but that's
Speaker 4: not what she was talking about. What did you I
Speaker 4: think about the reveal of Alex. I started with you
Speaker 4: Rose that you were talking about it still being a machine,
Speaker 4: like just focusing on that, Well, what made it still
Speaker 4: interesting to you? Based on just focusing on that?
Speaker 5: Like I said when we first started, Like I think,
Speaker 5: as we see man fucking billionaires almost trillionaires to do
Speaker 5: whatever they can as far as technology or for as
Speaker 5: trying to you know, dude, I could totally see Elon
Speaker 5: doing some shit like this, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 5: right right? He know a new he knows something like
Speaker 5: this apocalypse is coming. He about to see what money
Speaker 5: can buy. He's trying to go. He's gonna try to.
Speaker 3: Get the top scientists or whatever to figure out like ship.
Speaker 3: I probably can't.
Speaker 5: I could probably solved time travel like he probably think
Speaker 5: he can, like he probably absolutely think he can. So
Speaker 5: so I think, you know, I like it in a
Speaker 5: sense of, you know, billionaires almost trillionaires or whatever she is,
Speaker 5: you know, would do what they can to survive. Why
Speaker 5: wouldn't you if you didn't have that, if you had
Speaker 5: that amount of money, why wouldn't you try the most
Speaker 5: outlandist thing to do.
Speaker 1: To save your life?
Speaker 3: You know what I mean?
Speaker 5: So I like the reveal of this machine and then
Speaker 5: the backstory that we get on how it came to be.
Speaker 4: I thought it was cool, Yeah, was the backstory, especially
Speaker 4: with I guess now link slash. Dylan did that his
Speaker 4: specific part because we already knew about the scientists earlier on.
Speaker 4: They got took it out by Billy, But like his
Speaker 4: part of him being some random ass kid, genius, like
Speaker 4: did that land for you?
Speaker 1: Not really? I mean I was.
Speaker 7: I remember last time we talked, I was a little
Speaker 7: bit confu I didn't even know I didn't recognize him,
Speaker 7: so I was a bit confused about who he was.
Speaker 7: And then I think after the episode, I was like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 7: that was you guys had told me. But yeah, I
Speaker 7: also saw that he was the same guy that walked in.
Speaker 7: And then of course all this stuff we get later on.
Speaker 7: He wasn't random, and I think you do have random,
Speaker 7: crazy people out there. I like the fact that he
Speaker 7: was like because I do be saying the same shit
Speaker 7: you guys are talking about all this theory theoretical shit,
Speaker 7: like build the fucking shit, like, prove this shit work.
Speaker 7: But the fact that he actually built it was kind
Speaker 7: of crazy. And then the way it just evolved over
Speaker 7: time was also insane. I think that the guy should
Speaker 7: have known that when somebody give you a check that's blank,
Speaker 7: literally blank, then you can't just tell them you're gonna
Speaker 7: stop doing whatever you're doing, right, That just doesn't work.
Speaker 3: Two things.
Speaker 2: One is where mister white man got in full white
Speaker 2: man more quick. When he's seeing the device, he's all right, bro,
Speaker 2: we gonna need a patent. Everything became we.
Speaker 6: That's the tenderness dude, that's the dude from Tenderness with
Speaker 6: the real.
Speaker 2: It's that.
Speaker 4: And then like what Kim was saying was more of
Speaker 4: him going to the white woman literally looking at that
Speaker 4: now he was like, listen, I know you ain't heard.
Speaker 2: No after in your life. You need to shut this
Speaker 2: ship down.
Speaker 6: That's the funny thing about them smart people like him,
Speaker 6: like they don't understand like normal social hierarchy like you
Speaker 6: coming to tell me, like I've given you.
Speaker 2: A blank check.
Speaker 6: You've built the machine, and you're telling me it's working,
Speaker 6: but you're scared of it. Man, get the fuck out
Speaker 6: of the way. Broke care of you right now, like
Speaker 6: you you you have no more say.
Speaker 3: So with this.
Speaker 6: And I think that he thought that his moral compass
Speaker 6: was gonna be able to get him out of it,
Speaker 6: and it ain't. It ain't the world we live in, bro, And.
Speaker 1: You can't tell powerful people.
Speaker 7: You can't tell the government that you got a machine
Speaker 7: that can outthink like real time. There will find a
Speaker 7: way to weaponize that. So yeah, it makes sense. But overall,
Speaker 7: I really liked this episode and us getting a little
Speaker 7: bit more about links, seeing their working relationship, hearing the
Speaker 7: name Alex, because by now, you know, they've been talking
Speaker 7: about Alex over and over again, we ain't seen the
Speaker 7: damn person, you know, at all, So it was pretty much,
Speaker 7: you know, confirmed that Alex wasn't a real person. It's
Speaker 7: just who what the fuck was it? And it was
Speaker 7: this Ai shit and this motherfucker is just basically running
Speaker 7: shit or predicting shit. I don't know if it's running shit.
Speaker 7: So it was a really interesting backstory that's kind of
Speaker 7: taken into we're moving away from a lot of the
Speaker 7: drama sort of parts of the series into like the
Speaker 7: sci fi section of it.
Speaker 3: So yeah, I didn't know that's what this show was.
Speaker 5: So it kind of caught me off guard a little bit,
Speaker 5: but no, it was fine once I stilled it into it.
Speaker 3: Bro.
Speaker 4: I think was about when the signist said, like he
Speaker 4: was like, the the machine gave us an answer to
Speaker 4: a to a question that.
Speaker 2: A hundred million not even that he hadn't asked, but
Speaker 2: it should have took a hundred million years yet super
Speaker 2: computers just for it to answer it. And she's like,
Speaker 2: what's wrong with that? He was like, Nigga, we just
Speaker 2: we just turned it on.
Speaker 3: To me.
Speaker 4: That's like, that's the devil right there. That's I'm trying
Speaker 4: to tell you, hey, Rob, that's literally terminated.
Speaker 2: Ain't that house? Kind Of once it started thinking.
Speaker 7: My wife in there and and best by looking at
Speaker 7: some big ass TV saying ship you know it was no,
Speaker 7: I was like, that's the question.
Speaker 2: On your face.
Speaker 6: With y'all done the same thing, if y'all was a
Speaker 6: creative that machine with y'all been like, nah, this same
Speaker 6: because essentially that's what you created it for. You just
Speaker 6: didn't know it was gonna be.
Speaker 2: That powerful you created for. Everything is always created for.
Speaker 4: If I can control this, even when even when you
Speaker 4: have kids, yeah, this is a this would be all
Speaker 4: right experience.
Speaker 2: What's the kids start acting up and you can't control them?
Speaker 2: But shut this bit. We got to take you out.
Speaker 6: That's a good.
Speaker 4: Her Mama literally put them on forgetting there, Like, yeah, nigga,
Speaker 4: show tim, I'm taking you like when you like when
Speaker 4: you have a machine that's smart to where it's smarter
Speaker 4: than you.
Speaker 2: It depends on what type of person you are.
Speaker 1: How you deal with it.
Speaker 2: But most people are going to be like, I need
Speaker 2: to shut the ship down.
Speaker 6: It's relevant to today, man like Aiyes, a thin relevant
Speaker 6: to today.
Speaker 7: That's what they're working on their a GI ship, bro.
Speaker 7: They're they're trying to build that ship right now, you know.
Speaker 7: And and these are the stories that has been told
Speaker 7: for ship even before I was born. And now we
Speaker 7: actually had a point where the technology can get you know,
Speaker 7: probably close to it. But imagine when that ship actually
Speaker 7: fucking happens, it's gonna be fucking the same, you know.
Speaker 7: So if anything, he should have actually tried to use
Speaker 7: that to his advantage. But he's a he's a scientist
Speaker 7: that dabbled in theory, and I guess yeah, yeah, and
Speaker 7: then reality fucking hit. But if anything, like at this point,
Speaker 7: this motherfucker's super smart, you probably should have been, you know,
Speaker 7: asking it for cures to help your wife out.
Speaker 1: You know that that's what he's probably to use it for.
Speaker 2: I'm just saying, you're saying the Magi, the mainea genie.
Speaker 3: He should have be.
Speaker 7: Cure cure some ship, Like, give me how the fucking
Speaker 7: we cure this ship? How can we cure everything? Since
Speaker 7: you know so fucking much.
Speaker 3: Since she got your degree, the computer would have just
Speaker 3: said your wife is about to die. I know that.
Speaker 1: Everything. The computer.
Speaker 4: He's just like, you about to die, Like you know
Speaker 4: what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: So yeah, man, like that that's all the computer does.
Speaker 3: It just tells you like, well, this is what's gonna happen.
Speaker 3: I can't change the future. I can do what tell you?
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, this is what's gonna happen.
Speaker 6: Ran all the scenarios. You're about to die.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's crazy.
Speaker 2: That's a crazy male.
Speaker 3: Let it get Tuesday over there.
Speaker 2: This motheruck on top of the world. I think she
Speaker 2: just just saw her son and ship.
Speaker 3: He said, look, you you ain't gonna You're gonna be
Speaker 3: in this room again. But the last time of the room.
Speaker 6: Buddy told her, Hey, this is the plan, but you
Speaker 6: not gonna be here, said you're gonna die.
Speaker 4: So kid, what's the first thing she did? She went
Speaker 4: right home to her Nigga's sad.
Speaker 1: He was happy to bro. He was rapping that ass
Speaker 1: and was like, I missed you. He was knot.
Speaker 2: He was beating for about.
Speaker 3: Six When he was looking, he was just like what.
Speaker 7: He wanted something so bad. He believed the ship about her.
Speaker 7: Seeing the damn kid, he's like crazy cool slide these
Speaker 7: off real quick.
Speaker 3: You're like, Okay, cool, bad, that's what's up.
Speaker 4: That's what hey, Ryan, six years or probably long since
Speaker 4: the little boy died, be he was ready many things.
Speaker 7: Yeah yeah, so yeah, she left over girls and everything
Speaker 7: went back to her husband.
Speaker 1: Bro.
Speaker 3: Mm hmmm.
Speaker 4: Oh man, but Lou, I gotta ask you this, bro,
Speaker 4: because we we we see the therapist is a key
Speaker 4: focal figure in this show because they had her take
Speaker 4: out literally the biggest assassin.
Speaker 2: Of the show through a seeming bathroom.
Speaker 3: I knew she was about to do it too.
Speaker 4: I know she was, like you said, the whole we
Speaker 4: spent the whole episode of Jamie and like King, she
Speaker 4: was on her Yoda ship like once I'm locked in,
Speaker 4: I can peep ship, I can hear ship.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: She even did it outside the bunker when she was
Speaker 4: negotiating with with with Links and them.
Speaker 2: This motherfucker get get bamboozled by a therapist.
Speaker 8: Bro.
Speaker 5: But you think about it, Bro, it makes sense. Man,
Speaker 5: she's psychological, you know what I'm saying. Like she she
Speaker 5: can think, like like she is a sleeper. She's a sleeper, man,
Speaker 5: Like you really think about it, that would be a
Speaker 5: person that can outsyche somebody, somebody that that that that
Speaker 5: knows people know, knows their moves and and how they think.
Speaker 5: And once she realized who who Jane was and how
Speaker 5: she was crazy, she was able to to to think
Speaker 5: like three steps ahead of her.
Speaker 6: See, I'm confused because I thought that that was Sinatra's
Speaker 6: girl from the beginning, and she didn't have to have
Speaker 6: those sessions with the doctor.
Speaker 2: I thought that you meant that.
Speaker 6: I thought like everybody got went through the little session
Speaker 6: things with the doctor to get into the bunker. But
Speaker 6: I thought that they said since a natural was like
Speaker 6: wanted her there, Jane, that she didn't have to talk
Speaker 6: to the psite psychiatry. So it I was confused, Like
Speaker 6: y'all are right, I agree with you. If anybody could
Speaker 6: have did it, it was her because she's gonna outthink her.
Speaker 6: But I didn't know that she had enough information to
Speaker 6: be able to do that because I think that she
Speaker 6: had sessions with her.
Speaker 3: She didn't. She didn't need her.
Speaker 5: Once she realized that okay, she killed this person, she
Speaker 5: killed that person she enticed her to kill. She basically
Speaker 5: egged her on to try to come after her, like,
Speaker 5: so she was playing this game with her the whole
Speaker 5: time she she was she was really like fucking with her.
Speaker 3: She was just like, well, I know you're coming for me,
Speaker 3: so I'm gonna be ready when you come for me.
Speaker 2: The only thing I have to say, because I'm with you.
Speaker 4: But that one scene she was in bed and then
Speaker 4: she woke up the old girl her in the head
Speaker 4: and then she was like, it's like it was just
Speaker 4: a nightmare.
Speaker 2: Like to me, I guess the show was trying to
Speaker 2: fake you out and be like she you know, yeah
Speaker 2: when she was the Hunter.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, it kind affect y'all out because but because
Speaker 5: like and it makes sense because at first I thought
Speaker 5: the same thing, like y'all like, no, hold on, now,
Speaker 5: she she was she was playing. She was playing her
Speaker 5: the whole time. This is what she wanted.
Speaker 1: Now.
Speaker 5: That don't mean that she's not terrified and she not
Speaker 5: scared or whatever. But you know, but I think ultimately
Speaker 5: she knew how she was going to She was gonna
Speaker 5: kill her.
Speaker 7: If she didn't have that nightmare. She probably wasn't even
Speaker 7: thought about that ship. That shit scared to shoot out
Speaker 7: her so bad. She was like, I gotta take her
Speaker 7: off the book. She was shook so I'm I'm with
Speaker 7: Rod one hundred. Everything he said it made sense, Yeah,
Speaker 7: it did, it did. And Jane's the kind of person
Speaker 7: that you know we saw in the backstory. She's she's
Speaker 7: a dog that needs somebody to tell her who to
Speaker 7: go sit and and without that she's sort of lost.
Speaker 7: And that's why she needed the president around. I think
Speaker 7: she even said that herself. He was like, I'm of
Speaker 7: no value if there's nobody uh to tell me who
Speaker 7: I need to go go kill?
Speaker 3: Yeah, right, that was the purpose of the backstory.
Speaker 1: Mm hmm.
Speaker 3: That was the purpose of the backstore.
Speaker 7: Yeap, which is why she needed the black woman around
Speaker 7: because she definitely was gonna work for that guy.
Speaker 5: Mm hmm.
Speaker 4: Well, speaking of that kid, we get into the part
Speaker 4: of this season that I felt was like, all right, bro,
Speaker 4: let's wrap up the Scooby Dooe ship where we see
Speaker 4: the President's son going up like purposely get locked up
Speaker 4: just so he can go into the ice facility prison
Speaker 4: and somehow.
Speaker 3: I'm not.
Speaker 4: I don't even think he knew he was going on
Speaker 4: locked door because he just knew the scientists down there
Speaker 4: build the ship, so he was just trying to see
Speaker 4: how you can just you know, fuck it up. But
Speaker 4: we see him on this mission and he runs into
Speaker 4: the black woman who framed for murder. These are the
Speaker 4: scenes right that threw me off, pissed me off because
Speaker 4: he was.
Speaker 2: Dogging her as.
Speaker 1: She said, he never mentioned you.
Speaker 2: He right, He was like, I don't know if this
Speaker 2: is like some savior step mom ship here?
Speaker 4: Oh b yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he was so cold. He was so cold onto her.
Speaker 3: But nah, she has some get back though, like she
Speaker 3: really did.
Speaker 4: She can't say ship, she said, she said one nice thing,
Speaker 4: and she was just like, your father has hurt me
Speaker 4: in a lot of ways.
Speaker 1: Whenever purpose, you.
Speaker 3: Ain't ship like him right where she where she set
Speaker 3: that up. Man, Yeah, she was funny, but I didn't
Speaker 3: care for these scenes.
Speaker 2: I really didn't care because it didn't even mean to
Speaker 2: mount to ship because they ended up sucking up the
Speaker 2: whole thing. They'd always want the bunker blown up.
Speaker 7: Well, so I'm with you in terms of like what
Speaker 7: are we doing all of this for? So it was
Speaker 7: just like we're just here. But you see in the
Speaker 7: final episode why that was there, and you know it
Speaker 7: was it was really because this was uh yeah it
Speaker 7: was in It was in the seventh episode where they
Speaker 7: were explaining how the whole bunker worked to the studid
Speaker 7: as president and uh and what he said caveman level,
Speaker 7: so which you know, I think that helped for the
Speaker 7: viewing audience as well. So he asked a very very
Speaker 7: important question that nobody took serious because everybody was arrogant.
Speaker 7: Sinatra was arrogant, the scientist was arrogant. But he said,
Speaker 7: as slow as he may be, he said, I've been
Speaker 7: study history, and history repeats itself. And he went through
Speaker 7: the fall of all civilizations, and then he brought it
Speaker 7: to modern day civilizations.
Speaker 1: When he went to sports franchises, which after all that
Speaker 1: was dope. He was like the bulls.
Speaker 7: He said, the Bulls ayn't been to the finals since
Speaker 7: nineteen Yeah, all that shit was fucking dope. And he said,
Speaker 7: these things fall, and he asked the question that they ignore.
Speaker 7: He said, what happens if all of that ship happens
Speaker 7: at the same time. In their arrogance, they didn't think
Speaker 7: it would, but all of that shit was happening at
Speaker 7: the same damn time.
Speaker 1: That was true.
Speaker 7: Yeah, so that's why they were there. But outside of that,
Speaker 7: they were just there to kind of fuck the shit up.
Speaker 7: So we can get to the final episode.
Speaker 2: Again, Lou, did you like how they fucked the shit up?
Speaker 2: Like that didn't make sense?
Speaker 4: Like, imagine these two things happening at the same time,
Speaker 4: and how it would impact the bunker, making a safe
Speaker 4: place now the most dangerous place.
Speaker 2: I liked it.
Speaker 6: In this world realistically, no I didn't, but for the
Speaker 6: sake of this story into moving forward, I liked it
Speaker 6: in the sense of it felt like paradise again. It
Speaker 6: wasn't no bad stories, it wasn't no character development. It's like,
Speaker 6: this is the situation, this is what's going on. How
Speaker 6: do we fix this? How do we figure it out?
Speaker 6: Which is what made last season so good, especially the
Speaker 6: episode like when everything with the ship and they had
Speaker 6: to get to the bunker. I think this was in
Speaker 6: the same not as good by any means, but in
Speaker 6: the same vein of Okay, in present day, how are
Speaker 6: we dealing with everything that's going on?
Speaker 1: I liked that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I didn't mind it.
Speaker 4: I was more so thinking like, Okay, who's going to
Speaker 4: be taking off the board now? Because when you have
Speaker 4: like this, Granted we already knew about Sinatra, but it's like,
Speaker 4: all right, who else? Because like now it's like you
Speaker 4: mentioned little, this is like all right basically, especially with
Speaker 4: the first four episodes. Episode four ended, it's like, okay,
Speaker 4: we can do anything with any character, but nothing really
Speaker 4: happened or am I off.
Speaker 1: On that, right?
Speaker 3: I mean, I don't know.
Speaker 5: I don't know if you're completely off, but I mean,
Speaker 5: I mean I think enough happened to get us where
Speaker 5: we were. Like, like I said, the setup was there
Speaker 5: as Kim was explaining that with the President, you know,
Speaker 5: we were just seeing that play out in real time.
Speaker 5: I mean, he said it for a reason, and then
Speaker 5: we saw it play out to get us to because
Speaker 5: because this place had the crumble right in order for
Speaker 5: us to go to the next thing, so this was
Speaker 5: absolutely necessary.
Speaker 3: It had to fall. It absolutely had to fall. We
Speaker 3: we didn't see how it could, but now we I mean,
Speaker 3: it played out, and I thought.
Speaker 5: It was interesting that this like militia group went in
Speaker 5: there to kind of make it fall, but then it
Speaker 5: is actually actually actually ended up saving people, so it
Speaker 5: actually ended up being a rescue mission versus like a
Speaker 5: take takeover, takedown type of situation.
Speaker 2: Kim, what is what was your thoughts on how we
Speaker 2: got out the Bucker?
Speaker 7: Episode eight, Yeah, episode Okay, I agree with you in
Speaker 7: the sense that we didn't really lose anyone significant. We
Speaker 7: thought we lost the black woman, but we saw what
Speaker 7: happened with that. The only verson we lost was what
Speaker 7: they call him, Big Poppy or whatever his name was.
Speaker 1: The white.
Speaker 6: Yeah he was the only one. Yeah, I knew he
Speaker 6: was as soon as you went there.
Speaker 1: But that was it, you know, it was it was very.
Speaker 7: Much happy ever after ending and so outside of Sinatra,
Speaker 7: but that was already predicted. And you know, I'm sitting
Speaker 7: here watching this thing, and I'm like, well, if this
Speaker 7: thing is so smart, why didn't it see all of
Speaker 7: that coming?
Speaker 1: Like it couldn't predict that.
Speaker 7: The only thing in predicted was like, yeah, Sinatra's gonna
Speaker 7: die and it's going to be the one to have
Speaker 7: to come save everything.
Speaker 1: But it couldn't see the future.
Speaker 7: And in the sense that there's gonna be a lot
Speaker 7: of internal discord and fraction that that's happening because of
Speaker 7: Sinatra and the things that she was doing. That was
Speaker 7: one of the things she told the president. She was like,
Speaker 7: not on my watch, And it absolutely happened on her watch,
Speaker 7: Like all this shit was because of everything that she
Speaker 7: was she was doing but we also saw that when
Speaker 7: she was away from the rest of the crew and
Speaker 7: the lack of leadership, that whole ship fucking fell apart.
Speaker 7: Now Cato up and that motherfucker didn't know what the
Speaker 7: fuck he was doing. The other guy didn't know what
Speaker 7: that was his real name, by the way, it.
Speaker 4: Was funny, hell Bigga's just like as soon as there
Speaker 4: was like, all right, I'll take the heat for it
Speaker 4: a bit.
Speaker 2: If things really fun up here.
Speaker 6: Cool.
Speaker 4: That was crazy, But I think especially were gonna get
Speaker 4: it to outside right, Like you're not gonna keep a
Speaker 4: whole series about how first of all, once we found
Speaker 4: out outside it's not that dangerous, then it makes you
Speaker 4: going outside. And then when we go all these backstories
Speaker 4: about people living outside and ship, and then now the
Speaker 4: bunker is in this disarray to where it's now a
Speaker 4: nuclear reaction, it's like, Okay. My thing was more about
Speaker 4: like what you said, I think you and Rod agree with.
Speaker 4: This kid, was like we could have lost.
Speaker 2: One of the kids. I can give a fuck about
Speaker 2: the sun.
Speaker 1: I spare.
Speaker 7: He had like five lines over over two seasons, nicky, because.
Speaker 4: Even even I was almost upset with the daughter earlier
Speaker 4: on in in these last four because she was over
Speaker 4: here talking ship to everybody like she was smart and
Speaker 4: she knew something, like she was gonna be Nancy Drewn
Speaker 4: to solve this whole case in the elevator, and it's like,
Speaker 4: all right, when you're getting rid of this little boy,
Speaker 4: or I thought Lynx was gonna die and sly Conger
Speaker 4: grounds would really have to raise that baby.
Speaker 3: Like.
Speaker 4: It was a lot of things that I was thinking, like,
Speaker 4: we're gonna finally get some ship, and all we lost
Speaker 4: was Sinatra.
Speaker 2: And the and the old White Man.
Speaker 6: That's true. There weren't no stakes. I agree with you, then,
Speaker 6: I don't think that's one of the things about this
Speaker 6: season was like, well, okay, bro Jane and Sinatra, which
Speaker 6: on the surface sound like two major characters, but it's
Speaker 6: also like, yeah, I could see the story going without
Speaker 6: them too.
Speaker 3: Still alive.
Speaker 1: She got out of this show.
Speaker 3: You guys, she wasn't there. She wasn't there.
Speaker 6: I've seen the thing they wanted something laying back there.
Speaker 6: I thought, mm hm, she her.
Speaker 3: That's how they put their inflasis on it.
Speaker 6: I couldn't tell what they was doing. I thought she
Speaker 6: was still laying back there because I.
Speaker 4: Was thinking, like I was like, because I was like,
Speaker 4: who's going to be the feeling in next season because
Speaker 4: obviously Sinatras did the computer or like the supercomputer doesn't
Speaker 4: necessarily seem like it's evil because it's been trying to
Speaker 4: be helpful throughout the time. So it was like, what
Speaker 4: are we facing up against now that he gotta go
Speaker 4: to the Denver Airport and save the world.
Speaker 6: So it's just like, so that means they also gonna
Speaker 6: have to introduce someone else because Jane said it and
Speaker 6: we talked about it earlier in the episode, like she
Speaker 6: needs somebody to tell her what to do, So who's
Speaker 6: gonna be telling her what to do?
Speaker 3: Just her?
Speaker 2: At this point?
Speaker 6: She's right, I don't think I think they've established enough
Speaker 6: character in her to know the like she can't do
Speaker 6: it dolo, Like somebody gotta be telling her what to do,
Speaker 6: so somebody would have to emerge as her handwork.
Speaker 4: But her whole thing about it was like, since she
Speaker 4: needed Sinatra live to be useful, now that she's gone,
Speaker 4: she could just literally, yeah, she's just gonna wild out.
Speaker 4: She's just gonna be the person that they don't know if.
Speaker 6: I don't know if I want that to be a
Speaker 6: part of this show. I think this show is smart
Speaker 6: just to have Jane going on the Renegade Michigan season three.
Speaker 2: I don't know what that's it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't. I don't know either that's gonna be.
Speaker 7: Yeah, she is, she's around because she will be the villain,
Speaker 7: but in what way I don't know. Yeah, she's not
Speaker 7: smart enough to manage the machine, right, how would she
Speaker 7: use it? Did Sinatra have somebody above her? We don't
Speaker 7: know that either. As Link's going to be the villain,
Speaker 7: he got the deal with his baby. Annie the therapist.
Speaker 7: Don't know what the fuck she's doing, So.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 6: That may be that may be the twist the therapist
Speaker 6: and Jane, that may be the direction that they go,
Speaker 6: or I'll look at it.
Speaker 4: Because Sinatra gave Xavier that you car and now he
Speaker 4: has to go and finish the mission. Maybe changed her
Speaker 4: whole missions, Like I just gotta like they took away
Speaker 4: my boss, my the only person who saw something in me.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna destroy this machine and he's just gonna live
Speaker 2: in the world that were in.
Speaker 4: But yeah, the other feeling in the story that I
Speaker 4: think Xavier's wife is gonna find out to be is
Speaker 4: the therapist because last time we seen her in the
Speaker 4: steamy shower, somebody was getting stabbed.
Speaker 3: She remember what she remember what?
Speaker 2: That's that she was like, that's why she popped up
Speaker 2: on her like like she did. She's like, oh damn,
Speaker 2: you came back.
Speaker 3: You alive?
Speaker 2: Okay good? He quickly said that, yeah, this is my wife.
Speaker 2: She was like, okay for now.
Speaker 3: Yeah, bro the way she the way she was looking like,
Speaker 3: you know, gild me more more like uh, discreet about this.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm surprised the wife. And because he looked at
Speaker 4: her like all right, let me go talk to this
Speaker 4: white man real.
Speaker 7: Quick, right, Yeah, he got a bout of there because
Speaker 7: he kind of stood in the back.
Speaker 1: She was out like just.
Speaker 3: Over her, my wife.
Speaker 6: This is my wife right here, like, don't get out
Speaker 6: of pocket.
Speaker 4: He was portray him a little bit last season. So
Speaker 4: don't you got a reason to like, I don't even
Speaker 4: funk with you no more.
Speaker 1: I can't.
Speaker 7: I don't think she believed. Yeah, yeah it was something
Speaker 7: that happened between them, but I can't.
Speaker 2: It's gonna come out.
Speaker 1: It was it got you know, But yeah, I hope they.
Speaker 7: Don't, but I feel you like they did it for
Speaker 7: a reason, so it could it could test their marriage.
Speaker 7: But I mean, at the end of the day, did no,
Speaker 7: you're right, man, Like this man throve a fucking plane.
Speaker 1: He never knew how to.
Speaker 2: Fly, uh.
Speaker 1: Through an ice storm.
Speaker 7: He got shot, stabbed, all kind of ship he damned
Speaker 7: there got blown up right to get back to her,
Speaker 7: so she really can't say ship.
Speaker 2: And and even at the end, I was wondering, I
Speaker 2: was like, why is he running?
Speaker 4: Like then when she hit there, and I didn't realize,
Speaker 4: like the doors were gonna be like it was that
Speaker 4: tight and it was gonna close that quick.
Speaker 2: He was gone, that nigga was gone.
Speaker 4: It was like I can't even breathe. I just kind
Speaker 4: of run and he made it through. Oh but you know,
Speaker 4: we all have dealt with black women. Some of us
Speaker 4: are married to black women on this panel. We know
Speaker 4: she gonna bring that up no matter what he did,
Speaker 4: unless he left her. For Jesus, she gonna be like, nigga,
Speaker 4: you like, I didn't even funck nobody. And he gonna
Speaker 4: be like, you mean, get.
Speaker 6: Hey, look I thought you was dead. Not even gonna
Speaker 6: be enough.
Speaker 1: Gonna right, I'm.
Speaker 2: Glad drill around, my kids.
Speaker 6: Gonna get out there here playing house and ship.
Speaker 2: You see how she looked at the crib when she
Speaker 2: walked in.
Speaker 1: She's like, okay, it's nice.
Speaker 3: Yeah, she peeped all that.
Speaker 7: He just gotta he gotta stay away from it. That's
Speaker 7: all I gotta do. Just that, don't go back.
Speaker 6: You gotta tell her to talk to God. The therapist
Speaker 6: is gonna tell her, So you gotta tell her.
Speaker 1: Folks, you know.
Speaker 3: That was that was part of my treatment.
Speaker 2: That was part of my treatment.
Speaker 6: And Spike, that's when the nigga tried to get off
Speaker 6: to I was just doing therapy, man, I ain't she did, but.
Speaker 3: You know he told me that was.
Speaker 7: Oh that's what it sounded like. It sounded like cold
Speaker 7: to me. But you know I told you all, like
Speaker 7: the first thing I saw was like, I gotta learn
Speaker 7: how to disarm armed people. The second thing I learned
Speaker 7: from this show is that I need to run along this.
Speaker 1: That's not you tired me.
Speaker 4: Thinking the same thing my life shape, because you never
Speaker 4: know when you're just gonna have to run.
Speaker 2: You don't find out that you can't.
Speaker 9: You ain't got the wind for it in the wrong
Speaker 9: right right, You're just kidding me. Ship fucking man, a
Speaker 9: man way out even blue.
Speaker 1: I would made a quarter of a mile, bro.
Speaker 10: I would have got to the to the little garage
Speaker 10: park close stud the same thing, holding the.
Speaker 2: Same sat ship, go look at the windows, cares.
Speaker 1: And hold the kids. Aren't even really that.
Speaker 7: Damn.
Speaker 1: He would have been held up with his whole family.
Speaker 2: And I'm back in the gym lottle by the time
Speaker 2: to see y'all.
Speaker 3: But he was.
Speaker 2: I haven't seen the nigga run that. What's the last
Speaker 2: thing you see on the TV show? Exactly? Like just
Speaker 2: off the strength without chase for them to live.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he was moving. He runs and all the shows
Speaker 1: that feels like, because that's all he does.
Speaker 3: He runs a lot of this is us I started it.
Speaker 2: Nick ain't gonna like this. I see the clips online
Speaker 2: like his side, I just don't care.
Speaker 3: For the rest.
Speaker 6: Yes, you will not until not until you watch it.
Speaker 6: You're gonna care about.
Speaker 2: All the mother fuckers.
Speaker 1: You're like, you be like, man.
Speaker 3: Is good?
Speaker 4: Oh, I'm trying to think what else is there to
Speaker 4: talk about? But yeah, I think I think that's it.
Speaker 4: We just got the last mission. Uh, Xavier should be
Speaker 4: the final season has to go save the world by
Speaker 4: time trap somehow, some way. I'm happy that it's ending
Speaker 4: on this third season because this premise as far as
Speaker 4: going into the season is like, Okay, this is this
Speaker 4: is end the ship now see you it's estimation point.
Speaker 2: Everybody understanding this is the end of ship. Fact.
Speaker 1: I like how they.
Speaker 3: Go ahead.
Speaker 6: I just and I like how they ended it with
Speaker 6: the airport and kind of tying the conspiracy because it's
Speaker 6: a real life conspiracy theory about that statue, that blue
Speaker 6: statue that at the Diver airport. So I like how
Speaker 6: I kind of tied it into real life. Yeah, they
Speaker 6: claim it's an underground whole thing there, Like what she
Speaker 6: was explaining, Yeah, people be saying it in real life
Speaker 6: because the statue. Have you ever been to Denver, Like
Speaker 6: the statue is so random when you can fly into
Speaker 6: Denver Airport and you see that that blue statue right there,
Speaker 6: it's just so random, and people like it's it's a
Speaker 6: whole big conspiracy theory about it.
Speaker 1: Mm hmm.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 6: Look up a little Blue Boys thing.
Speaker 1: It's it's it's that's interesting. The only thing the only
Speaker 1: thing I got is you don't think that's really her kid?
Speaker 4: How because because there is that's because the manipulated with time.
Speaker 4: We saw it already with the message in ninety seven. Somehow,
Speaker 4: some way, I think to me, it created I don't
Speaker 4: know what it did, it mess it made it. I'm
Speaker 4: thinking it's more so it's like a very variant is
Speaker 4: called what Marvel does.
Speaker 2: It's a different time. Yeah, it's a different time out
Speaker 2: of that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and he somehow got into this time or it
Speaker 4: has to be like when they buried he ended up
Speaker 4: coming back to life. Because because we don't know the
Speaker 4: history of Alex. Like again, this could explain why he's
Speaker 4: so smart. Can it's like yeah or dylain, Yeah, we
Speaker 4: don't know why he's smart. It could be time to shit.
Speaker 4: Maybe the machine created him and that's how he created
Speaker 4: the machine, you know what I'm saying. Like it's kind
Speaker 4: of like a Chicken of the Egg type ship. I
Speaker 4: don't know they're gonna do something goofy with that time,
Speaker 4: That's all I know.
Speaker 2: Mm hmm.
Speaker 1: I hope not.
Speaker 7: But he is smart and just in him even as
Speaker 7: we close out asking for the pie, because the pie
Speaker 7: was able to give him intel on the different sort
Speaker 7: of things that they had down there in the building.
Speaker 7: I thought they poisoned that pie but he was like yeah,
Speaker 7: but he was tasting up. He just ran down the
Speaker 7: list of just based on that one thing what they
Speaker 7: were able to do, which I thought.
Speaker 4: I did think they poisoned it because they kept looking
Speaker 4: at the pie and I was like, all the pie
Speaker 4: you're gonna get, you gonna get a pie you white, But.
Speaker 1: And the mother motherfucker was looking at it too. He
Speaker 1: didn't even give them the motherfuckers protected. He was looking
Speaker 1: at the mother. He wanted the piece of that pie,
Speaker 1: and he died and to get a piece of that pie.
Speaker 4: I'm I'm looking forward to season three. I think stern
Speaker 4: Kate Brown is on a random run right now, like
Speaker 4: if you're going back from This is Us. He had
Speaker 4: a scene stealing. He had a really good scene in
Speaker 4: Black Panther and he kind of like helped, you know,
Speaker 4: take that movie over the top with his performance. He's
Speaker 4: been in a few movies like he and now he
Speaker 4: got a hit series under his belt where he's the lead.
Speaker 2: Have we just counted him on the list? Have we
Speaker 2: been overlooking sly k Brown?
Speaker 1: He's on a roll.
Speaker 7: I don't think we've been overlooking him up to this point,
Speaker 7: but right now he's on a roll and I think
Speaker 7: we'll start seeing more of of him. The question I've
Speaker 7: been asking myself is I wonder if he has really
Speaker 7: him and all his movies.
Speaker 2: We never see. Oh yeah, we did Season Day with
Speaker 2: a Black Husband once, but that's her worst movie.
Speaker 6: You know what's crazy is he is on a great run.
Speaker 6: I agree with you, Nick, but he played like this
Speaker 6: is Randall, Like it's the same character. He playing the
Speaker 6: same character over and over. I feel like not in.
Speaker 2: Black Panther he was he was a different character than that.
Speaker 1: And remember.
Speaker 2: American Face watched that. I ain't watched that. I have
Speaker 2: to go see that.
Speaker 4: Well, then I say, have you seen Hotel Ornaments? Like
Speaker 4: he's been in some movies that like challenged him a
Speaker 4: little bit because.
Speaker 6: I want to see that when you see this as us,
Speaker 6: that's I think that's the foundation of his actor, Like
Speaker 6: most of the roles kind of play a part in that.
Speaker 6: But I do want to see him playing the villain
Speaker 6: in this new movie that he got coming out that
Speaker 6: we watched the pre the trailer for.
Speaker 2: He played the villain in uh that movie The Fox.
Speaker 3: Bark Face.
Speaker 6: Yeah, he playing a villain in that, So I want
Speaker 6: to see how that go.
Speaker 2: Okay, and y'all.
Speaker 5: Feel about Yeah, the last thing I had was like,
Speaker 5: how did y'all feel about like basically Sinatra's redemption story, It's.
Speaker 6: Not enough to Kendrick voice. It wasn't enough.
Speaker 2: She deserved it.
Speaker 6: Thanks she got man. She was she was an evil
Speaker 6: person in my opinion, So yeah, he deserved that ship.
Speaker 2: It was it was weird how they did her, like
Speaker 2: she was just very accepting of things towards the end,
Speaker 2: like she ain't fight back, she ain't argued when when
Speaker 2: the doctor the therapist city I killed you know, your
Speaker 2: number one person. She just looked at her and said, okay,
Speaker 2: well you you go out there and be with the people.
Speaker 2: You're really good at that. And it was just kind
Speaker 2: of like yeah, okay, like where are we.
Speaker 5: Going with this?
Speaker 2: Like do you know something that clearly she was something
Speaker 2: we didn't know, but still it was just like why
Speaker 2: are you so calm and peaceful and literally this chaos bron.
Speaker 4: But I didn't find it because I knew that she
Speaker 4: was going to killing her once the machine said she
Speaker 4: was going to die, they won't have her die either,
Speaker 4: like not trying to leave the bunker or trying to
Speaker 4: save the bunker you know, like.
Speaker 2: I'm time with it star.
Speaker 11: King Brown, and he ain't say to her for really,
Speaker 11: He was like, what you doing. She was like, ill
Speaker 11: see you ladies, all right, yeah we.
Speaker 1: Saw you.
Speaker 3: Right, yeah, yeah, rais no time time but yeah, that
Speaker 3: was the only other thing I had.
Speaker 4: Yeah, all right, well those are our thoughts on season
Speaker 4: two of Paradise. Please let us know what you guys think.
Speaker 4: FPS podcast is the Reddy Thread. It's also my handle
Speaker 4: for IG and Twitter and I guess we'll catch you
Speaker 4: in the third season, the final season of Paradise, when
Speaker 4: that drops, But until then we out peace.
Speaker 3: Peace,