WEBVTT - Paradise, Part 2 (Episodes 5-8) 0:00:01.639 --> 0:00:09.840 The Frames per Second podcast, What's. 0:00:09.640 --> 0:00:12.160 Going on as your boy Nick I am here with 0:00:12.680 --> 0:00:17.720 I am Spike Lou caught up though modest media. 0:00:18.280 --> 0:00:20.040 Yeah whatever, man, what's going on? 0:00:20.320 --> 0:00:24.439 And Kenneth by Oh you're now tuned into the France 0:00:24.600 --> 0:00:29.080 Second podcast And in this episode we are concluding our 0:00:29.160 --> 0:00:32.879 I guess Batches recaps of the Ken is still a hit. 0:00:34.360 --> 0:00:36.680 I think so. I think it's I think it's crossing 0:00:36.680 --> 0:00:37.440 over a little bit more. 0:00:37.520 --> 0:00:43.120 Now, okay, with the hit Hulu original series season two 0:00:43.120 --> 0:00:46.320 of it, we're finishing out the second half of Paradise 0:00:46.320 --> 0:00:47.800 starring Sterling K. 0:00:47.920 --> 0:00:48.200 Brown. 0:00:50.400 --> 0:00:52.680 So yeah, these this recap will be dedicated to episodes 0:00:52.720 --> 0:00:54.920 five through eight because we already did one through four. 0:00:54.960 --> 0:00:58.240 Make sure you go check that out. So yeah, let's 0:00:58.320 --> 0:00:59.920 let's get into it. Let's pick up where we let 0:01:00.200 --> 0:01:02.279 off this time. I actually brought up I watched all 0:01:02.320 --> 0:01:09.080 the episodes beforehand. Take a break and cool. I'm pious 0:01:09.200 --> 0:01:11.880 your thoughts on the second half? Did he did he 0:01:12.000 --> 0:01:12.800 match the first half? 0:01:14.480 --> 0:01:20.039 Mm hmm. I was a little concerned when when I 0:01:20.080 --> 0:01:22.720 started saying about the time travel stuff. 0:01:23.040 --> 0:01:23.360 I didn't. 0:01:23.440 --> 0:01:23.800 I didn't. 0:01:24.440 --> 0:01:26.400 I didn't see all the murmurs about it being that 0:01:26.440 --> 0:01:31.520 type of show. But the more you know they got 0:01:31.560 --> 0:01:35.000 into the story, the more I understood it. You know 0:01:35.240 --> 0:01:39.479 how you know, if you if you have infinite amount 0:01:39.520 --> 0:01:42.240 of money like that, you probably would try to figure 0:01:42.240 --> 0:01:44.240 out the craziest shit. You could probably figure out like 0:01:44.319 --> 0:01:47.560 that money you know can buy or whatever. So it 0:01:47.680 --> 0:01:49.800 makes it started to make a lot of sense when 0:01:49.800 --> 0:01:53.040 you start thinking about people that live a certain way. 0:01:53.520 --> 0:01:53.720 Right. 0:01:55.320 --> 0:01:59.120 So once I, once I settled into that part, I 0:01:59.160 --> 0:02:01.400 was like, yeah, this is this is still a really 0:02:01.760 --> 0:02:04.800 solid show for me. So I think, you know, I 0:02:04.840 --> 0:02:06.520 think I think it was fine. I'm not I'm still 0:02:06.520 --> 0:02:08.640 not sure if this one is better than the last season, 0:02:09.520 --> 0:02:13.120 but I think it's still a solid solid show. 0:02:13.960 --> 0:02:18.120 Yeah, what about your lou? 0:02:18.720 --> 0:02:21.520 I differ from that, I'm concerned. I'm concerned that this 0:02:22.000 --> 0:02:24.920 season three is gonna be everywhere. I did not like 0:02:25.080 --> 0:02:28.440 the time travel element. I don't think they fully understood 0:02:28.960 --> 0:02:31.760 and explained it for us as viewers to understand. And 0:02:31.840 --> 0:02:34.880 I know they got one more season they'll probably dive 0:02:34.960 --> 0:02:37.880 into it, but I wish, well, I would have liked 0:02:37.880 --> 0:02:40.320 this season more had they gave us more information on 0:02:40.360 --> 0:02:42.600 what the whole thing was doing and how it was 0:02:42.639 --> 0:02:46.160 affecting them with the nose bleeds. I didn't like that 0:02:46.160 --> 0:02:48.120 that may be her son, because that just didn't make 0:02:48.160 --> 0:02:51.920 sense to me. It was a lot of holes, I 0:02:51.960 --> 0:02:54.960 felt like, and the only reason that those holes were there, 0:02:54.960 --> 0:02:56.960 in my opinion, is they spent too much time elsewhere 0:02:56.960 --> 0:02:59.920 with those backstories. Like I enjoyed them in the more, 0:03:00.360 --> 0:03:02.000 but when we get to the last two episodes, I 0:03:02.000 --> 0:03:04.320 felt like they was Russian, so they could have took 0:03:04.360 --> 0:03:05.960 some of that other stuff out and just gave us 0:03:05.960 --> 0:03:08.320 more context everything that had to do at the end. 0:03:08.720 --> 0:03:10.680 But all in not, I was still entertained. But I'm 0:03:10.680 --> 0:03:13.160 gonna check out season three. But this season, to ask 0:03:13.240 --> 0:03:16.079 your question, was a big fall off of me, big 0:03:16.240 --> 0:03:16.679 fall off. 0:03:17.160 --> 0:03:20.120 Yeah, what about you, Ken? 0:03:22.000 --> 0:03:22.840 I still enjoyed it. 0:03:22.919 --> 0:03:26.679 I enjoyed the last batch of episodes far through a 0:03:29.480 --> 0:03:31.840 You know, they did introduce the time travel, but they 0:03:31.840 --> 0:03:34.680 didn't they didn't really spend a lot of time in it. 0:03:34.720 --> 0:03:35.960 So I think we'll get a lot of that in 0:03:36.680 --> 0:03:42.680 the third season. And they're only doing three seasons, right, yes, yeah, yeah, 0:03:42.720 --> 0:03:44.800 so I think we're good. I think we'll get a 0:03:45.000 --> 0:03:49.600 very very good, solid story, you know, from beginning to end, 0:03:49.960 --> 0:03:53.120 And I think this was thinking about it almost like 0:03:53.600 --> 0:03:57.240 reading it from a novel perspective, you know, towards the middle, 0:03:57.280 --> 0:03:59.840 you start introducing and giving some background of hoole these 0:04:00.040 --> 0:04:01.520 characters are and why they. 0:04:01.440 --> 0:04:02.560 Act the way they do. 0:04:03.640 --> 0:04:06.240 So I was okay with that, and I don't think 0:04:06.560 --> 0:04:09.640 it took too much away from the storyline. And I 0:04:09.760 --> 0:04:11.560 like the fact that they kind of concluded some of 0:04:11.560 --> 0:04:13.360 that shit, so none of that shit is lingering on 0:04:13.520 --> 0:04:15.280 as some shows tend to do. 0:04:15.760 --> 0:04:18.440 So I'm with it now. I'm ready to get into 0:04:18.480 --> 0:04:20.479 the science fiction part of it all. 0:04:22.640 --> 0:04:26.080 That's interesting that you say that, kid, because this show 0:04:26.120 --> 0:04:29.000 technically is a science fiction show, even though it's the 0:04:29.040 --> 0:04:34.120 premise is mostly about a world kind of apocalyptic accident 0:04:34.320 --> 0:04:39.080 or happenstance, but that's still in the sci fi realm. 0:04:39.680 --> 0:04:43.520 And I wasn't expecting them to do the literally take 0:04:43.560 --> 0:04:48.000 a quantum leap for how they want to end this series, 0:04:48.080 --> 0:04:51.360 but the way they did it made it more interesting 0:04:51.400 --> 0:04:53.000 for me as far as like how they work out 0:04:53.040 --> 0:04:55.400 the math of it, because I do think it's interesting 0:04:55.440 --> 0:04:59.560 from that perspective since we're talking about science, like, let's 0:04:59.600 --> 0:05:02.359 go into it kind of like some Project Hill Mary 0:05:02.400 --> 0:05:06.880 type shit. But I think there was a drop off 0:05:06.880 --> 0:05:09.240 this season, but it wasn't significant. I'm not with you 0:05:09.279 --> 0:05:09.479 on that. 0:05:09.520 --> 0:05:09.719 Look. 0:05:09.800 --> 0:05:12.880 It wasn't significant, but it was to the point to 0:05:12.920 --> 0:05:16.440 your that I agree with that we were elsewhere a lot. 0:05:16.920 --> 0:05:20.440 We even got a chain background, a Mailman background, which 0:05:20.440 --> 0:05:24.159 we would get into, like maybe we could have explored 0:05:24.200 --> 0:05:26.920 more about like how this is going on. That way, 0:05:26.920 --> 0:05:28.839 we can just focus on the third season being something 0:05:28.880 --> 0:05:31.599 that's more like finalized, because I feel like if the 0:05:31.640 --> 0:05:34.119 third season doesn't hit unexplained a lot of stuff, people 0:05:34.120 --> 0:05:36.240 will be like, damn well, you could argue there could 0:05:36.240 --> 0:05:38.080 be another there should be another season, you know. So 0:05:38.839 --> 0:05:41.480 I liked it overall, but like first season was great. 0:05:41.480 --> 0:05:46.760 This was just good. So we start off with episode 0:05:47.120 --> 0:05:48.880 five of the second season. 0:05:48.680 --> 0:05:51.760 Which is titled The Mailman, which we get introduced to 0:05:52.520 --> 0:05:56.680 Gary and some kind of sort of towards sterling k 0:05:56.760 --> 0:06:01.120 Brown's wife, like what happened during the whole accident as 0:06:01.120 --> 0:06:02.920 far as them not being able to communicate, and that 0:06:03.000 --> 0:06:04.799 was the last time he actually spoke to his wife 0:06:05.040 --> 0:06:09.599 until recently. What did y'all think about this episode and 0:06:09.600 --> 0:06:11.560 what did you'll think about Gary? Y'all start what you can. 0:06:13.960 --> 0:06:16.279 Uh. 0:06:16.400 --> 0:06:19.960 He definitely fit a lot of stereotypes as we moved along. 0:06:21.680 --> 0:06:25.680 Lonely guy mailman tried to be amend man and a 0:06:25.720 --> 0:06:29.520 couple of different ways when he got to stirle his 0:06:29.600 --> 0:06:35.000 wife and loner and creepy gamered us in the house 0:06:35.720 --> 0:06:39.919 all alone by himself and only making friends online and 0:06:40.000 --> 0:06:46.040 not you know, quote unquote outside, and they leaned into 0:06:46.720 --> 0:06:52.760 that sort of gamer stereotype of mentality that they have, 0:06:52.920 --> 0:06:56.040 and you know, these guys bonded and made a friendship 0:06:56.320 --> 0:07:01.360 you know, online, So I think his behavior they sort 0:07:01.400 --> 0:07:03.640 of used his background to kind of explain some things 0:07:03.640 --> 0:07:05.720 that went along, especially as we got the conclusion of 0:07:05.760 --> 0:07:06.240 the story. 0:07:06.760 --> 0:07:09.560 But you know it, it was cool. 0:07:09.840 --> 0:07:12.679 It made a lot of things make sense because those 0:07:13.360 --> 0:07:16.080 they would be the type sometimes to sit there, they're 0:07:16.080 --> 0:07:18.480 playing all these games, they're living in this fantasy world, 0:07:19.040 --> 0:07:21.200 and they would be the ones to kind of figure 0:07:21.240 --> 0:07:23.080 some ship out and find a way to survive. So 0:07:24.440 --> 0:07:26.240 they they played that ship out like they were doing 0:07:26.280 --> 0:07:29.040 some due Dungeons and Dragons type of ship and the 0:07:29.080 --> 0:07:32.920 ship just fucking came true. So so yeah, so now 0:07:33.440 --> 0:07:36.040 I was with he had he had a Yeah, I 0:07:36.080 --> 0:07:38.040 was with it. 0:07:39.000 --> 0:07:41.000 Rob was it just me when like during that whole 0:07:41.120 --> 0:07:44.400 exchange between him and I think us, I was thinking, like, 0:07:44.440 --> 0:07:48.440 it's gonna turn left. Like the guy he probably talking 0:07:48.480 --> 0:07:50.040 to any other thing, it's probably a lot more crazy 0:07:50.080 --> 0:07:51.600 than when he. 0:07:51.120 --> 0:07:54.360 Is coming off. As was that your thoughts going into 0:07:54.400 --> 0:07:55.600 that episode as you was watching it. 0:07:56.080 --> 0:07:57.600 I'm talking about his partner. 0:07:57.960 --> 0:08:01.880 Yeah, I don't know, I don't I don't know if 0:08:01.920 --> 0:08:04.120 I thought it was gonna turn crazy until he started 0:08:04.120 --> 0:08:07.000 looking like he was getting jealous of the situation or whatever, 0:08:07.240 --> 0:08:11.800 Like when he started, you know, getting closer to uh hisnme, 0:08:12.120 --> 0:08:15.040 what's his what is Randall's name? Sterling K's name in 0:08:15.080 --> 0:08:19.200 the show again? I forgot that, yeah x yeah, yeah, 0:08:19.280 --> 0:08:22.800 Once he started getting closer to his wife and stuff, Yeah, 0:08:22.920 --> 0:08:24.840 he started to feel like a loaner. It seemed like 0:08:24.840 --> 0:08:26.400 he started to feel like a loaner again. So I 0:08:26.440 --> 0:08:28.080 thought at that point, yeah, he might snap. 0:08:29.040 --> 0:08:30.520 But before that, no, I thought. 0:08:30.280 --> 0:08:34.160 They were just you know, just two nerves that you know, 0:08:34.280 --> 0:08:38.079 new apocalypse was coming and they knew how to to to. 0:08:38.080 --> 0:08:38.760 Prepare for it. 0:08:40.840 --> 0:08:42.960 So no, I thought this is I thought this was 0:08:43.000 --> 0:08:45.280 a very interesting setup episode. 0:08:46.040 --> 0:08:46.360 Person. 0:08:46.760 --> 0:08:47.800 Do you feel like it was needed? 0:08:52.440 --> 0:08:53.560 I like what it added. 0:08:54.240 --> 0:08:54.440 You know. 0:08:54.559 --> 0:08:57.200 I like how it bridged just into a into a 0:08:57.240 --> 0:09:00.200 different group of people, you know what I mean, Like, 0:09:00.200 --> 0:09:02.360 like I think it did. I think it did its job. 0:09:02.880 --> 0:09:05.320 It showed what was going on on the outside while 0:09:05.320 --> 0:09:07.640 all this stuff was going on in Colorado. 0:09:08.800 --> 0:09:09.520 You knowee what I'm saying. 0:09:09.800 --> 0:09:11.840 Yeah, So I think it was a good way to 0:09:11.920 --> 0:09:13.479 kind of tie the two worlds. 0:09:15.920 --> 0:09:19.400 Like you, Nick, I did think I thought it was 0:09:20.480 --> 0:09:23.160 some psycho and I thought all that shit he was 0:09:23.200 --> 0:09:25.880 gonna turn on him and ship like that. So yeah, 0:09:25.880 --> 0:09:27.200 I've been watching too much TV, I. 0:09:30.200 --> 0:09:33.040 Like, I mean, how many shows that we all watched 0:09:33.040 --> 0:09:35.319 where it's like you need the well catfish, there's a 0:09:35.360 --> 0:09:38.400 whole favoite show about it, like Motherfucker's Online, just smoke 0:09:38.520 --> 0:09:40.760 speaking online, never seen each other, never meeting each other 0:09:40.760 --> 0:09:42.840 in personally, and then when you finally do it, it 0:09:42.880 --> 0:09:46.800 may not be what you think. But Lou, I'll ask 0:09:46.840 --> 0:09:48.480 you the same question asked right, Do you think this 0:09:48.559 --> 0:09:51.400 episode was necessary or did you like did you enjoy. 0:09:51.200 --> 0:09:55.880 That all in the moment, Yes, I didn't start thinking 0:09:55.880 --> 0:09:57.360 that some of this stuff needed to be cut out 0:09:57.400 --> 0:09:59.079 unto the end, when I feel like they were rushing 0:09:59.120 --> 0:10:01.880 that last episode, but in the moment, it was good 0:10:01.920 --> 0:10:03.120 to get context on dude. 0:10:03.559 --> 0:10:05.720 I liked what Ken said in the censure. 0:10:05.880 --> 0:10:09.440 It was the typical nerd gamer and if anybody would 0:10:09.480 --> 0:10:11.920 figure it out how to live through, it would be 0:10:12.000 --> 0:10:13.520 him and this dude that he made all the line. 0:10:13.559 --> 0:10:15.520 So they did that well. I think it was a 0:10:15.559 --> 0:10:19.520 good job. I'm not sure how much I needed it though, Yeah, 0:10:19.760 --> 0:10:19.960 it was. 0:10:20.040 --> 0:10:21.760 It was a very detailed episode because they had the 0:10:21.760 --> 0:10:24.640 whole his what it was his post office was was 0:10:24.640 --> 0:10:27.320 a cold war bunker and they ended up turning into 0:10:27.360 --> 0:10:28.360 and they had all the supplies. 0:10:28.360 --> 0:10:30.040 He was able to do that shit. I liked that, 0:10:30.520 --> 0:10:31.959 but we're gonna have to get to the Messican. 0:10:32.280 --> 0:10:33.319 I know you like it. 0:10:34.960 --> 0:10:40.640 Like Rod said, Xavier's wife pulls up early after we 0:10:40.720 --> 0:10:43.920 see Gary be like a good Samaritan and save that 0:10:43.960 --> 0:10:47.199 little boy from that them dope fiends that are his parents. 0:10:47.920 --> 0:10:51.319 But he's also, you know, somebody who literally just saved him, 0:10:51.320 --> 0:10:53.320 so he's he could be coming off as a people 0:10:53.360 --> 0:10:56.600 white guy, which is a savor. His wife wanted to intervene, 0:10:56.840 --> 0:10:59.400 but he ends up getting her trust. What did you 0:10:59.400 --> 0:11:01.439 think about their relationship dynamic and. 0:11:01.440 --> 0:11:02.719 What she was. 0:11:02.920 --> 0:11:04.960 She fouled for not he's giving him something. 0:11:09.280 --> 0:11:12.000 No, she wouldn't filed for like she's not gonna. 0:11:11.720 --> 0:11:12.559 Go for dude like. 0:11:14.200 --> 0:11:17.959 He a weirdough loyal and she's loyal. Yeah, I think 0:11:18.720 --> 0:11:21.559 her husband, well, I mean that lady was the weird 0:11:21.600 --> 0:11:22.320 that she was bad. 0:11:23.440 --> 0:11:27.960 I feel sad. That was a funny siege. 0:11:29.960 --> 0:11:30.320 That was. 0:11:30.679 --> 0:11:33.160 If that was Morris Chestnut to somebody, she probably would 0:11:33.160 --> 0:11:33.400 have went. 0:11:33.920 --> 0:11:34.199 Was like. 0:11:35.640 --> 0:11:39.120 You think it was all it was all about the tracks. Yeah, 0:11:39.280 --> 0:11:42.839 if it was Idris l but Morris Chestnut naming in 0:11:42.920 --> 0:11:44.240 one of them, like she would have went. 0:11:45.880 --> 0:11:46.440 All of them? 0:11:46.720 --> 0:11:50.560 You know what's all of them? Green Eyes. 0:11:52.120 --> 0:11:52.960 Tyler Perry movie. 0:11:53.000 --> 0:11:56.400 Yeah, Michael Michael Ely would have took her dame the 0:11:56.520 --> 0:11:58.959 first day. Michael Ely would have done it. 0:11:59.040 --> 0:12:00.679 The blue Eyes were bringing up. 0:12:03.320 --> 0:12:05.080 She would have been working with that radio. 0:12:08.960 --> 0:12:16.240 Who probably probably I ain't never. 0:12:16.040 --> 0:12:19.280 Going to see him again, brob. 0:12:19.640 --> 0:12:22.560 That was my thought, was like what she because at 0:12:22.559 --> 0:12:24.480 first it seemed because it seems like everybody in these 0:12:24.480 --> 0:12:26.760 situations when they with somebody that's showing them. 0:12:26.600 --> 0:12:30.040 Like favor kindness, especially because he really saved her life. 0:12:30.040 --> 0:12:31.880 Because we don't know what she was up doing like 0:12:32.320 --> 0:12:35.000 being out the street usually end up going like an 0:12:35.000 --> 0:12:38.959 emotional attraction and it leads to something physical. But as 0:12:38.960 --> 0:12:41.400 soon as he was trying something, she was like, she did. 0:12:44.679 --> 0:12:46.920 She told him she kept in the bang. Did you 0:12:46.960 --> 0:12:50.640 like what she said? When she was like, She's like, 0:12:50.679 --> 0:12:52.280 I appreciate it, but this would never. 0:12:53.600 --> 0:12:54.360 I can't give you that. 0:12:56.080 --> 0:13:02.120 Yeah, Like, God, damn, I can't give you. Yeah. I 0:13:02.160 --> 0:13:03.960 thought I thought they But I did think they. 0:13:03.800 --> 0:13:06.839 Were gonna go there though, because I mean, Zab you 0:13:06.880 --> 0:13:12.120 went there, you know what I'm saying. So I was like, 0:13:12.240 --> 0:13:13.560 I guess you know you're gonna let her get her 0:13:13.600 --> 0:13:16.560 little piece too, But yeah, I didn't go there, So 0:13:16.600 --> 0:13:19.040 I was just like, wow, Wow, I didn't go there. 0:13:19.080 --> 0:13:21.679 So I thought that was interesting that, you know, they 0:13:21.760 --> 0:13:23.640 had him go there with it, but they didn't have 0:13:23.679 --> 0:13:24.600 her go there with it. 0:13:26.400 --> 0:13:28.600 You know, it was it was It was definitely a 0:13:28.640 --> 0:13:33.480 device to explain why he did what he did, which, 0:13:34.600 --> 0:13:36.760 you know, as we moved further along. 0:13:38.440 --> 0:13:41.040 To certain degree, maybe Louis as well. I don't know. 0:13:41.080 --> 0:13:43.000 I think this whole storyline was to get him to 0:13:43.080 --> 0:13:45.000 the train so they can get back to Colorado. 0:13:45.200 --> 0:13:47.079 That's I'm saying. 0:13:47.120 --> 0:13:47.839 It was a bridge to that. 0:13:48.520 --> 0:13:48.920 Yeah. 0:13:49.120 --> 0:13:52.560 Yeah, so, and I guess they needed his actions in 0:13:52.679 --> 0:13:55.319 order to do that. So this was the way they 0:13:55.320 --> 0:13:57.800 wrote it because I'm like, because I was just thinking, 0:13:57.800 --> 0:13:59.439 I was like, we didn't really need to do all 0:13:59.480 --> 0:14:02.160 that ship, you know, with him and making advances towards 0:14:02.200 --> 0:14:05.839 her and becoming you know, jealous or whatever. But now 0:14:05.880 --> 0:14:07.760 we know why he as soon as he saw her, 0:14:07.800 --> 0:14:09.480 he was like, Okay, yeah, you can come with us, 0:14:09.480 --> 0:14:11.880 and you know, and us was like, no, we don't 0:14:11.920 --> 0:14:12.480 have enough room. 0:14:12.520 --> 0:14:17.120 But he was like, we're gonna make room. And that's what. 0:14:17.679 --> 0:14:19.240 This queen for. This queen. 0:14:21.360 --> 0:14:23.480 He tried to pull that if he tried to put 0:14:23.480 --> 0:14:24.680 the last man on Earth ship and. 0:14:28.400 --> 0:14:35.240 That's the reason why he went crazy out there. 0:14:36.040 --> 0:14:39.040 And you still don't want her, still don't want mine. 0:14:40.560 --> 0:14:42.520 The other girl with the other girl, So yeah, he 0:14:42.680 --> 0:14:45.200 losing out. I think even found somebody. 0:14:46.080 --> 0:14:46.480 M hmm. 0:14:48.240 --> 0:14:51.400 That's the fun around that was. But Ron, did you 0:14:51.440 --> 0:14:54.560 feel like him going crazy at the end? Was you 0:14:54.640 --> 0:14:57.760 shocked by that? Like he killed especially his best friend. 0:14:58.880 --> 0:15:02.080 He was talking too much. Sh he was talking away 0:15:02.080 --> 0:15:07.640 too much ship. He was sucking with him. Bro. 0:15:09.680 --> 0:15:11.400 He was like, yeah, she's about to leave. She about 0:15:11.400 --> 0:15:12.880 to get on this train. She about to get up 0:15:12.880 --> 0:15:17.320 out of here. What you got, She's gonna be long gone, right. 0:15:21.160 --> 0:15:23.560 That is what tipped him over. That's what God calls 0:15:23.600 --> 0:15:27.680 him shooting kid. Any of that can't nobody. You can't 0:15:27.680 --> 0:15:30.560 fun with nobody like that. Man, he got a short used. 0:15:33.240 --> 0:15:33.480 With him. 0:15:33.520 --> 0:15:35.360 I thought he was just being like a good friend 0:15:35.360 --> 0:15:38.960 likes about I did too, he could Finally. 0:15:38.600 --> 0:15:39.840 He was Yeah. 0:15:40.520 --> 0:15:43.120 With King, he was being petty. He was being paid. 0:15:46.640 --> 0:15:47.000 I thought. 0:15:47.000 --> 0:15:49.720 With Nick, I thought he was actually saying, Yo, this 0:15:49.760 --> 0:15:50.920 is your opportunity, you know. 0:15:52.320 --> 0:15:55.760 But yeah, damn you shot that nigga. Man, and I 0:15:55.880 --> 0:15:56.800 shot that nigga. 0:15:58.760 --> 0:16:00.200 My thing is like, how did you not say the 0:16:00.240 --> 0:16:02.720 gun point that you? 0:16:03.160 --> 0:16:05.760 He probably don't he would have shot him. There's no 0:16:05.840 --> 0:16:07.280 way he think he was going to do it. 0:16:07.720 --> 0:16:08.160 M hmm. 0:16:08.840 --> 0:16:11.400 Yeah, why would you think they caught me off guard? 0:16:13.040 --> 0:16:18.200 He called me, when did you keeep it up? 0:16:21.280 --> 0:16:26.800 It's when when in this apologized the story started to 0:16:26.920 --> 0:16:29.440 change and how it was written and it started to 0:16:29.440 --> 0:16:32.520 feel like you and even even Xavier said it. He 0:16:32.600 --> 0:16:35.120 was like, man, it's something not telling me and you 0:16:35.240 --> 0:16:37.160 probably need to go ahead and tell me now before 0:16:37.160 --> 0:16:40.120 it's too late, so you know, so he picked up 0:16:40.160 --> 0:16:42.720 on it too, and he just started seeming like he 0:16:42.880 --> 0:16:45.440 was just as it went on, just was was lying. 0:16:46.000 --> 0:16:50.080 But yeah, right around that apology, you know, it made 0:16:50.120 --> 0:16:52.080 it seem like he was really being sincere. 0:16:52.240 --> 0:16:54.120 That old boy was the one. 0:16:53.960 --> 0:16:56.000 Because when we got to the to the training at 0:16:56.040 --> 0:16:59.200 the people they were really really nice. They didn't seem 0:16:59.240 --> 0:17:01.400 like they were a problem. They were the people that 0:17:01.480 --> 0:17:06.280 were with uh uh uh Dylan's group, so we've seen 0:17:06.359 --> 0:17:09.040 another side of them that they hadn't seen. But when 0:17:09.080 --> 0:17:10.879 we got they were like, oh, yeah, everything's cool. You know, 0:17:10.920 --> 0:17:14.639 we're about to go to Colorado woo woo and uh 0:17:14.920 --> 0:17:16.960 and yeah everything, you know, everything was straight. So I 0:17:17.000 --> 0:17:19.040 was like, I don't think this is this is being 0:17:19.080 --> 0:17:19.600 told away. 0:17:21.280 --> 0:17:23.680 It happened. The way he's telling you, dude. 0:17:23.520 --> 0:17:25.280 Made it seem like they was terrorists something. 0:17:26.840 --> 0:17:28.440 They was they stole this girl. 0:17:30.359 --> 0:17:34.320 You're the only he was the only lonely ass person 0:17:34.359 --> 0:17:36.440 over there by himself. He could have went over there too, 0:17:36.600 --> 0:17:39.400 like he chose that life. It was he thinks it's 0:17:39.440 --> 0:17:41.639 just gonna be him and the black girl and the 0:17:41.760 --> 0:17:43.639 kid and they was gonna play house. Now, nigga were 0:17:43.640 --> 0:17:45.080 trying to get out of here. We ain't trying to 0:17:45.080 --> 0:17:47.439 stay in this post office for the rest of our life. 0:17:48.640 --> 0:17:50.720 Hey, but that was that was his life though, you 0:17:50.720 --> 0:17:52.360 know what I'm saying. That was the world to us. 0:17:54.280 --> 0:17:59.440 But everybody was leaving. Uh who saying her boo love? Uh? 0:17:59.760 --> 0:18:02.359 Who els love? I think somebody else loved. So yeah, 0:18:02.440 --> 0:18:06.040 everybody was starting to know he was being left a long. 0:18:08.920 --> 0:18:12.040 Well, how did the kid get left there? Did they 0:18:12.080 --> 0:18:12.800 ever say that? 0:18:12.920 --> 0:18:13.479 I missed that? 0:18:14.160 --> 0:18:17.359 No, it was the kid with not because they had 0:18:17.400 --> 0:18:19.320 to go back and get him. 0:18:19.600 --> 0:18:21.000 They never trying. 0:18:21.160 --> 0:18:23.560 Oh yeah, they never said how they were like white. 0:18:23.960 --> 0:18:25.440 I don't think that she would have left the little 0:18:25.440 --> 0:18:27.560 boy if they went back to go get him. So 0:18:27.600 --> 0:18:29.919 I wonder how he got back over They never like 0:18:29.960 --> 0:18:30.680 really elaborated. 0:18:30.840 --> 0:18:31.480 That's a good point. 0:18:31.480 --> 0:18:33.199 I never I didn't realize because I thought he was 0:18:33.240 --> 0:18:34.640 with the little boy was with her. 0:18:35.280 --> 0:18:37.199 No, because remember she went back to to get him, 0:18:37.240 --> 0:18:39.680 and that's when Yeah, he was Finn shoot him and ship. 0:18:40.200 --> 0:18:43.119 I guess that the whole little little boy didn't really 0:18:43.200 --> 0:18:43.720 need to be there. 0:18:43.840 --> 0:18:47.040 Honestly, he's gonna end up being somebody watch. I think 0:18:47.040 --> 0:18:50.880 that they're gonna they don't have no way down you think, 0:18:50.920 --> 0:18:51.840 So who's said. 0:18:51.680 --> 0:18:56.240 More likely gonna be somebody that the Little Boy. 0:18:57.040 --> 0:18:59.080 I think the Little Boy gonna end up being somebody. 0:18:59.359 --> 0:18:59.840 Hm hmmm. 0:19:01.000 --> 0:19:01.440 I don't think. 0:19:01.520 --> 0:19:03.400 I just don't see them that much. I got one 0:19:03.400 --> 0:19:05.840 more they don't. They have one more season, and that 0:19:05.880 --> 0:19:09.040 boy he didn't do a lot. He played on a 0:19:09.080 --> 0:19:10.800 broken ass slide and ran off. 0:19:13.080 --> 0:19:17.159 But yeah, I don't have no time to develop him 0:19:17.359 --> 0:19:18.200 to something else. 0:19:19.600 --> 0:19:20.080 Mm hmmm. 0:19:20.760 --> 0:19:21.119 Moving on. 0:19:21.119 --> 0:19:23.080 I feel like that's what the creator of this show. 0:19:24.359 --> 0:19:26.160 I just feel like that's what the creative show does. 0:19:26.440 --> 0:19:28.159 I know, Roch, you're watching this is Us now, like 0:19:28.480 --> 0:19:31.200 you have somebody just lingering and you wonder why they're 0:19:31.240 --> 0:19:33.280 and then they go into a whole episode about the 0:19:33.359 --> 0:19:35.760 significance of this person. I feel like they may spend 0:19:35.800 --> 0:19:38.560 an episode on the Little Boy next year, you know what. 0:19:38.760 --> 0:19:40.920 I could see that. I can see that, but I 0:19:40.960 --> 0:19:41.320 don't know. 0:19:41.520 --> 0:19:44.719 I do agree with the way that this guy produces 0:19:45.520 --> 0:19:48.440