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Speaker 4: Lincoln, Lincoln, Lincoln bobingas banana banabing, gun Finn gun Lincoln.

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Speaker 5: They say this cat Lincoln is a bad mother. We're

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Speaker 4: Wake up, Wake up, Cincinnati. It's time to turn up

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Speaker 4: the buzz. From bond Hill to Price Hill, from Avondale

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Speaker 4: tuned into twelve thirty w DBZ. We are the buzz

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Speaker 4: of Cincinnati, your talk station. This is the Lincoln wear

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Speaker 4: A Show, and I'm Kevin Aldridge keeping Lincoln's chair warm

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Speaker 4: on this rainy, cold Friday, but the mic is always hot.

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Speaker 4: Lincoln is enjoying the second of his days off, and boy,

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Speaker 4: what a day, What a time he took to take off.

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Speaker 6: Yesterday Opening Day.

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Speaker 4: Great Weather, Cincinnati's official holiday, Great Parade. Downtown is packed.

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Speaker 4: People are excited, and boy, things started going off the

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Speaker 4: among some juveniles, and even later on into the evening

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Speaker 4: clearing people out, and they made multiple arrests. Said the

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Speaker 4: late Thursday evening, after police said large crowds became disorderly

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Speaker 4: Detective Green, how you doing this morning?

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Speaker 2: Good morning, I'm doing good.

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Speaker 6: Who were looking for today?

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Speaker 8: I was gonna say, I Lincoln down there at the

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Speaker 6: Yeah, Lincoln is in good shape.

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Speaker 8: Lincoln can do it.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, so was he was he doing boots on

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Speaker 9: He was getting it.

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Speaker 8: Okay, give him props.

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Speaker 6: All right, all right? So who are looking for today today?

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Speaker 8: Raquel Israel is wanted by Campbell County, Kentucky for a

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Speaker 4: All right, well, thank you Detective Green for everything that

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Speaker 8: Okay, sir, thank you so much.

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Speaker 4: Okay, take care. All right, all right, there you have it.

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Speaker 6: But we're gonna go to Bill. Bill. What's on your mind? Hello? Bill?

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Speaker 9: We'll put you on speaker because I'm stop speaking because

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Speaker 9: I'm fixing breakfast. What what you got on show yesterday?

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Speaker 9: I'm cooking a turkey club what I'm doing because I

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Speaker 9: good job. And Terrence, like I said, my Sunday Soul

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Speaker 6: All right, Bill appreciate the call. All right.

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Speaker 4: That was Bill making that Turkey club before it gets

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Speaker 6: And I don't think we have that song, but you

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Speaker 6: You doing this morning?

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Speaker 2: Hey?

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Speaker 10: Can you hear me?

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Speaker 10: I'm doing as well as I can be. And thanks

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Speaker 10: you why we sue CPD FP in the city in

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Speaker 10: the year of two thousand, two thousand and one, because

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Speaker 10: it is about other social ills, it ills, It is

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Speaker 10: about racism, It is about the lack of opportunity, the

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Speaker 10: lack of housing, and lack of food. It is about

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Speaker 10: all of these things, and it's critical that we understand

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Speaker 10: how we respond to these things. I think what we

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Speaker 10: have continuously seen over the past twenty and thirty years

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Speaker 10: is the impact that those isms have on communities and

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Speaker 10: the lack thereof. And so when we finally get to

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Speaker 10: a place where we say, oh, enough is enough, but

445
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Speaker 10: what caused the enough? What are our children really and

446
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Speaker 10: truly going through? As I talked about Government Square and

447
00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:28,280
Speaker 10: really not watching our children but seeing them, and you

448
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Speaker 10: can see the impacts of lack of whether it's parenting,

449
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Speaker 10: lack of investment, whether it's lack of good quality education,

450
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Speaker 10: lack of housing, lack of food, lack of healthcare, whether

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Speaker 10: it's all these things that we know that are existing

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Speaker 10: as adults, what are we going to do and how

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Speaker 10: are we going to protect them?

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Speaker 9: Now?

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Speaker 10: Let me get back to last night and yesterday, because

456
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Speaker 10: it really things. Really it was beautiful to see my

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Speaker 10: people out, and y'all know, I'm gonna fight until I

458
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Speaker 10: don't had no break about my people, and I'm gonna

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Speaker 10: fight for them, but I'm going to fight with them

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Speaker 10: also because a lot of this is self control and

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Speaker 10: self responsibility, whether your parent, whether your friend or an

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Speaker 10: uncle or grandparent, whether all of that, some of this

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Speaker 10: is is just self control, because it wasn't just youth,

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Speaker 10: it was adults too, It was adults too. And whether

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Speaker 10: we need to govern ourselves better, if that means not

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Speaker 10: drinking as much, if that even means, you know, not

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Speaker 10: drinking at all. Sometimes because some of these things we

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Speaker 10: see escalated because of additional things that we're trying to

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Speaker 10: drown out, because of all the isms in our lives.

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Speaker 10: And I get it, but I do want the community

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Speaker 10: to know that I think I had about ten conversations

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Speaker 10: last night went cpp about what was happening and how

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Speaker 10: they were trying to utilize problem solving. Throughout the response

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Speaker 10: to order and fights, there were a lot of calls

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Speaker 10: for fights. There was mace being used by citizen or citizens, flights,

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Speaker 10: youth had mace, calls for service, will off the roof

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Speaker 10: for you know, assaults, fights from northern OTR all the

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Speaker 10: way to the banks, and that's a huge landscape, that's

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Speaker 10: very huge CPD response where they were using resources as needed.

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Speaker 10: Yes they did call in the cdr T's media isn't

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Speaker 10: helping us with these stories because this misinformation is only

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Speaker 10: feeding into the frenzy.

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Speaker 4: So Iris addressed some of that. What is what's what's

484
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Speaker 4: some of the misinformation out there? And then what's the

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Speaker 4: correct information? Because this is this is what the platform

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Speaker 4: is for to try to get good information out to

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Speaker 4: the people so that they can really know what's going on.

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Speaker 4: So what's so what's some of the misinformation?

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Speaker 10: So I got several calls last night about police being

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Speaker 10: and right gear. Police use gear as needed when needed, right,

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Speaker 10: So I'm asking, well what is the right gear? And

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Speaker 10: so Lieutenant Colonel Hammers, I was we don't see it

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Speaker 10: as that, we see it as used in gear. There

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Speaker 10: were limited uses of shields on the banks, very limited

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Speaker 10: there were very limited use of helmets all and there

496
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Speaker 10: were none of that on Vine Street. So you had operations,

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Speaker 10: the major operations on Vine Street and on some antler

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Speaker 10: streets around northern OTR. And then you had major operations

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Speaker 10: on the banks. What didn't happen on the banks is

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Speaker 10: took what we saw last year during the summer. It's

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Speaker 10: not the bank ownerships and the restaurants and the bars

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Speaker 10: down there. They created their own special little space where

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Speaker 10: they paid for additional security. And you can only be

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Speaker 10: twenty one and over they come into that particular space.

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Speaker 10: That didn't happen, right, That didn't happen. So when the

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Speaker 10: city had to go in to shut down the banks

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Speaker 10: for everyone's safety, and then everybody had to go, even

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Speaker 10: the people from Boston who were here to celebrate the

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Speaker 10: Reds games.

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Speaker 9: Right.

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Speaker 10: The use that the the terminology that curfew was not

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Speaker 10: in place not true. And although there weren't many curfew violations,

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Speaker 10: because curfew is not a restable offense. And I keep

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Speaker 10: saying to us, be careful what we ask for, because

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Speaker 10: we keep wanting to deploy more consequences on the youth

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Speaker 10: without educating them, without loving them and teaching them. Right,

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Speaker 10: so curfew is just a cidable offense, very limited use

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Speaker 10: of curfew citations. But there were multiple, multiple notices about

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Speaker 10: the curfew from CPD. It was one other thing that

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Speaker 10: I wanted to say, So I wanted to be clear

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Speaker 10: about the banks that security wasn't there for them, but

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Speaker 10: wanted to be clear about what riot gear really is

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Speaker 10: and is not. But I also want to say that

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Speaker 10: our media keep stoking the flames, and they need to

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Speaker 10: get correct information so that we have correct information because

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Speaker 10: everyone is reading some of this stuff, and then who

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Speaker 10: is the media? Every time I turn around, I see

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Speaker 10: a different somebody jumping up and reporting some of the stuff.

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Speaker 10: We had CPD out last night. There was Cincinnati Police

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Speaker 10: Department on the ground share and Ohio State Police. There

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Speaker 10: were no gunshots by any of these against citizens. There

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Speaker 10: was a limited arrest of citizens. I do believe that

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Speaker 10: it was reported to me that one officer was in

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Speaker 10: a situation not injured severely. I did not get a

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Speaker 10: number around citizens or citizens were injured yesterday. They're pulling

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Speaker 10: that data together. I do know that Cincinnati is you know,

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Speaker 10: we lead opening day, and while there can be some

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Speaker 10: conversation and should be conversation should opening day happen the

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Speaker 10: same as spring break at sist Night Public Schools and

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Speaker 10: assistant public Schools. Wasn't just the only.

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Speaker 4: Hey hey, Iris, I want you to hold on, hold on.

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Speaker 4: I gotta take a quick break and when we come

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Speaker 4: back we'll finish We'll finish up the conversation, but I

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Speaker 4: want you to hang on there.

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Speaker 6: So hold on.

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Speaker 4: We'll take a quick break and when we come back,

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Speaker 4: we'll have more from Iris Rowley. This is twelve thirty WDBZ,

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Speaker 4: the lincoln Ware Show, your talk station, lincoln Ware Show,

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Speaker 4: Kevin Aldridge sitting in for lincoln Ware until one o'clock today,

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Speaker 4: And before we went to break, we had Iris Rowley

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Speaker 4: on the line and Iris was telling us about some

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Speaker 4: of her observances. She was downtown last week or last

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Speaker 4: night after the Reds game, called in to kind of

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Speaker 4: help with some of the disturbances, and so she was

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Speaker 4: just kind of telling us a bit. So, Iris, here's

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Speaker 4: a question that some people are having. And you've kind

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Speaker 4: of touched on this, and I've kind of touched on it,

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Speaker 4: but what was if you know this, what were the

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Speaker 4: percentages of adults versus young people who were involved? And

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Speaker 4: do we know anything about the arrests that were going

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Speaker 4: on down there in terms of the proportionality of that.

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Speaker 6: People are curious about that.

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Speaker 10: Sure, sure, Kevin, I think in talking with the Public

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Speaker 10: Defender's office, I've been conversing back with Director Chang of

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Speaker 10: the Youth Division, who will be the chief Public Defender

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Speaker 10: in June. We've only seen one arrest of a youth

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Speaker 10: and that was it was related. I think it happened downtown.

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Speaker 10: I don't know the details, but just one arrest at

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Speaker 10: this particular point, and for me to my community, to

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Speaker 10: the class, that is the crux of the collaborative agreement.

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Speaker 10: If y'all are wondering why I'm talking about this in

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Speaker 10: this particular way to figure out how to have accountability

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Speaker 10: with police without relying on arrests. But then the flip side,

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Speaker 10: the other side of that, or the continuation of that sentence,

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Speaker 10: is what is community going to do? What are we

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Speaker 10: going to do to ensure that when the other voices

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Speaker 10: that are very loud, they don't want to hear me

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Speaker 10: say we can reduce arrest, they didn't want to hear

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Speaker 10: about the reduction of a rest on government square by

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Speaker 10: deploying people who care about them directing our babies to

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Speaker 10: resources and feeding them and just loving on them and

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Speaker 10: consistently being prison and our expectations of how they should

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Speaker 10: behave rise. Then But there are loud voices that don't

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Speaker 10: want to hear this, Kevin, that don't want to understand

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Speaker 10: that policing can be done, but it can be done

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Speaker 10: in an accountable, transparent, and responsible and fair way and

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Speaker 10: so that it is effective. And that is a message

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Speaker 10: you would hear from Assistant Chief Hammer. He said it

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Speaker 10: last night. What is effective and then what is fair?

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Speaker 10: And so when we have these other voices saying that

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Speaker 10: we just want everybody arrested and or we want to

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Speaker 10: make sure the judges are locking people up, who in

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Speaker 10: the world do y'all think they're talking about? And so,

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Speaker 10: for me, under the Collaborative Agreement, it starts with the

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Speaker 10: public Safety APPARATUSUS. It starts with the people who show

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Speaker 10: up first and our level of expectation to what is

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Speaker 10: fair and what is and what is effective. So I

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Speaker 10: can't tell you that right now, and I'm waiting on

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Speaker 10: the data, Kevin, to so I can break it down.

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Speaker 10: They can break it down and tell me. I want

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Speaker 10: to see whoever was arrested that those arrests were fair.

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Speaker 10: I can tell you what our conversations were last night.

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Speaker 10: I can tell you what the need work, because I

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Speaker 10: got calls about who owns. You know, we're trying not

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Speaker 10: to shut down bars and clubs for overcapacity. Can we

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Speaker 10: talk to owners? Can we talk to individuals so that

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Speaker 10: they can put things in place to manage the people

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Speaker 10: that are trying to get in. But again, Kevin's, a

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Speaker 10: lot of this is on our our own self control

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Speaker 10: and responsibility. So I'm reporting to you as I would

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00:37:05,120 --> 00:37:08,480
Speaker 10: report about CPD, and I'm reporting to you that the

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Speaker 10: information was forthcoming all night long. Now what we are

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Speaker 10: waiting on again, Kevin, are the numbers that you just had.

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Speaker 10: So community, give me, give me, give me at least

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Speaker 10: to the end of the day so all these things

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Speaker 10: can be You know, I can have the correct information,

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Speaker 10: and I'm not making assumptions, but I would say equally

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Speaker 10: for me. You know, I'm trying to protect all my peeps.

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Speaker 10: I'm trying to protect the babies and the adults. And

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Speaker 10: so while the babies, most of them were on the banks,

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Speaker 10: in the adults who are industry in Northern OTR and

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Speaker 10: OTR it's difficult, and then to understand why we see

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Speaker 10: each other in such such vein When you look at

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Speaker 10: some of the videos, it's disturbing around the amount of

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Speaker 10: hate and disdain that we have for one another. It's

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Speaker 10: it's disturbing to see how we fight each other. It's

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Speaker 10: just very disturbing. It's disturbing for me as a black woman,

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Speaker 10: and I need to have I want to have a

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Speaker 10: conversation with my family. I want to have a conversation.

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Speaker 10: And when I say family, I'm talking about skin con

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Speaker 10: I'm talking to us. I know that I posted a

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Speaker 10: question of some of the responses, and thanks to everybody

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Speaker 10: that is responding, because my last question, are you willing

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Speaker 10: to help? It would have needed to have been a

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Speaker 10: thousand of us on the street last night to help

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Speaker 10: mitigate the disputes amongst one another. Kevin last night? Any

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Speaker 10: other question that bloke God, because I'm not looking at

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Speaker 10: I'm not looking at the chatter or anything like that.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm sure there's a bunch of questions in there

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Speaker 4: that folks have. I don't know that we will have

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Speaker 4: time to get with get to all of them in

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Speaker 4: the five minutes that we have left, because we got

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Speaker 4: another guest scheduled at eleven. But so, here's what I

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Speaker 4: wanted to ask you, is so sort of what is

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Speaker 4: the what is the answer? Because it sounds like, you know,

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Speaker 4: Cincinnati police had a pretty good plan in place ahead

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Speaker 4: of time. It sounded like when things broke loose, uh,

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Speaker 4: they did a good job of handling the situation in

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Speaker 4: terms of you know, limiting uh, injuries and possible fatalities

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Speaker 4: and so forth and so on. But but you've kind

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Speaker 4: of touched on it. And I think one of the

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Speaker 4: overarching courses that you'll hear from from folk, and maybe

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Speaker 4: maybe it's some of those with the loudest voices, is is, yeah,

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Speaker 4: we understand that their root causes for why things are

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Speaker 4: the way that they are. But but but how do

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Speaker 4: you make particularly when we're talking about our young people,

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Speaker 4: adults are a whole different thing. As an adult, you're

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Speaker 4: responsible for yourself. But as young people, how do you

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Speaker 4: how do you create more personal accountability for those who

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Speaker 4: are responsible for these young people who are out there?

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Speaker 4: Because that's what I hear the reframe all the time, people, Hey,

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Speaker 4: come get your kids. You know, where are the parents at?

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Speaker 4: What are what is the solution or what the remedy

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Speaker 4: for that, and does that need to be a larger

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Speaker 4: part of the conversation, Because I hear what you're saying.

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Speaker 4: But at the end of the day, people are going

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Speaker 4: to say, hey, there are plenty of poor people who

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Speaker 4: live in impoverished situations who don't act this way. So

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Speaker 4: poverty is not necessarily an excuse for poor behavior. How

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Speaker 4: do you respond to that?

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Speaker 10: Well, so let me just say this. For many years,

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Speaker 10: things occurred during Opening Day, the football games in the

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Speaker 10: Rigs that didn't make it this way. Now, I don't

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Speaker 10: know if non black people were in poverty or not,

675
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Speaker 10: but we would see flights all the time. You and

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Speaker 10: I both we all know these things have occurred after

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Speaker 10: the Bengals games and after the rig games, after the

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Speaker 10: first after Opening Day, So these things have occurred. These

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Speaker 10: things have occurred because non black people had the opportunity

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Speaker 10: to have parties during Opening Day. And I was talking

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Speaker 10: to a dear friend of mine about when did black

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Speaker 10: folk really started starting to go and have these parties

683
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Speaker 10: during Opening Day? Now, you know, I, you know you

684
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Speaker 10: still feel the clear. We don't want y'all downtown atmosphere.

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Speaker 10: And when y'all I'm talking about black people, and that's honest.

686
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Speaker 10: These are honest dialogue. So people only behave the way

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Speaker 10: that they feel. And so when we didn't see that

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Speaker 10: in the media, not being reported, when non black people

689
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Speaker 10: would be down there fighting like all get out and

690
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Speaker 10: acting a fool and fighting after all the games. So

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Speaker 10: when it's reported and reported and reported and reported time

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Speaker 10: and time again, when you see a black fight, then

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Speaker 10: it appears that everything and it's always black people, and

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Speaker 10: that's not it. That's just one thing. The second thing

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Speaker 10: I think, Kevin, and the reason that I think we

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Speaker 10: need to have a family conversation without the extras in

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Speaker 10: the room, so we can begin to talk about how

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Speaker 10: do we navigate this very bumpy and nasty and historically

699
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Speaker 10: racist road. How do we then do that at the

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Speaker 10: same time, holding all accountable. All those things that I

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Speaker 10: listed to you play a part in behavior. It prays

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Speaker 10: a part. How the young man tell me on Government Square,

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Speaker 10: and I know this is just diversing a little bit,

704
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Speaker 10: but tell me you're on Government Square, I miss Irish.

705
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Speaker 10: I didn't come down here to get disrespected by you,

706
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Speaker 10: because my expectations are hire my children, that even the

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Speaker 10: ones that I didn't birth it's because I get disrespected

708
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Speaker 10: all day at school. These things are real, and so

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Speaker 10: in the mindset of children who have not had a

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Speaker 10: developed brain, whether it's at home or at school or

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Speaker 10: even after school in between, there somewhere, they're gonna behave

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Speaker 10: some kind of way, wouln't you? And then, Kevin, let's

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Speaker 10: just look at where we live in the world. It's

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Speaker 10: extremely violent. America was built on violence. And I know

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Speaker 10: that the non black folks will say, well, Irish, that

716
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Speaker 10: ain't you know? I didn't do that yet, But you

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Speaker 10: still help to perpetuate those ways because we see the

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Speaker 10: increasing and consequences. We don't see the increasing of equity.

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Speaker 10: We don't see reparations so we can reclaim and rebuild

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Speaker 10: and repair our people. We don't and so as we

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Speaker 10: continue to fight on this level, we still need to

722
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Speaker 10: be able to teach our children how to navigate this

723
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Speaker 10: very very negative road and life that we live in.

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Speaker 10: This is life and it's real, and so I'm saying

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Speaker 10: all of that, but I'm saying we also need to

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Speaker 10: get into a room and we family need to have

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Speaker 10: a conversation as those of us who are trying to

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Speaker 10: hold these spaces and hold people equitable and how they

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Speaker 10: respond based on our tax dollars paying for stuff, and

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Speaker 10: how we get the return on our investment, how the resources,

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Speaker 10: what the resources look like. Let me give you one

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Speaker 10: last example, and I know you said we had very

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Speaker 10: limited amount of time. Someone told me that some of

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Speaker 10: youth jobs from the county was going to be eliminated.

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Speaker 10: So I posted a question, y'all is this true or not?

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Speaker 10: Now while the funding has been reduced. I was reassured

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Speaker 10: through conversations on Facebook, because I want us to all

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Speaker 10: know that there has been a reduction, but the youth

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Speaker 10: jobs will still go on. It's up to us to

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Speaker 10: get them prepared for that. It's up to us to

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Speaker 10: make sure that they know that it's up to us

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Speaker 10: to be present with them in that this is what's

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Speaker 10: up to us. And so I'm hoping that I'm having

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Speaker 10: a conversation with my family today right but I'm reporting

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Speaker 10: to y'all as through the collaborative agreement as we are

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Speaker 10: supposed to it. And I'm pretty grateful that these that

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Speaker 10: now in twenty twenty five, twenty five years ago. Guess what, Kevin,

748
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Speaker 10: we started in spring break? Yep, right, yeah, April, you

749
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Speaker 10: know where our several unrest started right after Timothy Thomas

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Speaker 10: was murdered, even though we had already filed in federal

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Speaker 10: court to hold the police the city in fop accolible

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Speaker 10: in March. So this is where you know, we can

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Speaker 10: only go so far up. This is the old African

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Speaker 10: proverb before you hit so community. What I'm saying to

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Speaker 10: y'all is who's willing to really get in the room

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Speaker 10: and have these very hard conversations. And this is not

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Speaker 10: about individuals. This is about the collective. This is about

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Speaker 10: the huge black collective.

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Speaker 6: So loving.

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Speaker 10: Any questions, please reach out.

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Speaker 4: All right, Iris, thank you, thank you for your time today.

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Speaker 4: All Right, that was Iris Rollie sort of talking about

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Speaker 4: what happened last night, the path forward and what needs

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Speaker 4: to happen. We're going to take a quick break and

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Speaker 4: when we come back, we've got calls from you, and

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Speaker 4: we've got Scottie Johnson, Cincinnati City councilman in the studio

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Speaker 4: with us. So we got all of that coming up,

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Speaker 4: and we're going to take some of your questions and comments.

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Speaker 4: The Lincoln Ware Show twelve thirty WDBZ is the Lincoln

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Speaker 4: Ware Show. Kevin Aldrich sitting in for Lincoln ware today

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Speaker 4: and the phone lines are full, and I promise you

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Speaker 4: we're going to get to all of you here in

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Speaker 4: just a second, so make sure you hang on. We

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Speaker 4: got Cincinnati City Councilman Scottie Johnson here in the studio

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Speaker 4: with us. But before we get to all of that,

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Speaker 4: we are going to have doctor Rufie Corona. She's a

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Speaker 4: pediatrician and obesity medicine specialist at Cincinnati Children's Hospital and

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Speaker 4: where and she serves as the director of the Center

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Speaker 4: for Better Health and Nutrition, dedicated to preventing and treating

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Speaker 4: childhood obesity through family centered clinical care, community and engagement

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Speaker 4: and research. Doctor Corona, how are you doing this afternoon?

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Speaker 11: Hi?

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Speaker 3: I'm doing great. Thank you so much for having me today.

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Speaker 4: No problem, Thank you for being on. So March is

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Speaker 4: National Nutrition Month and this year's theme is discovered the

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Speaker 4: Power of Nutrition. Tell us why nutrition is important for

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Speaker 4: both children and adults.

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Speaker 3: So, yes, National Nutrition Month, and I say every day

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Speaker 3: it should be Nutrition Day, really because nutrition is really

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Speaker 3: the foundation of health for all of us. For a child,

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Speaker 3: it supports their growth, their brain development, how they do

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Speaker 3: in school, how they interact with each other, and then

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Speaker 3: it for everybody, children and adults. It helps with energy

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Speaker 3: and prevents chronic disease. So it is really the foundation

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Speaker 3: of how we live. And while food can and should

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Speaker 3: taste good, it is also the gas that rules us,

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Speaker 3: and so we really have to think about both what

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Speaker 3: our tongue likes from a taste perspective, but also what

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Speaker 3: our body needs from a functioning perspective.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, doctor Frona, that's about it. That's my biggest that's

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Speaker 4: my biggest problem. I think my tongue tids to control

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Speaker 4: me more than my uh, more than my brain. So

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Speaker 4: what are some things that people should look out for

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Speaker 4: in their diet.

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Speaker 3: So one of the biggest problems we're seeing in the

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Speaker 3: United States right now is type two diabetes and pre diabetes.

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Speaker 3: When I started my medical training, I never heard of

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Speaker 3: kids having pre diabetes. Really it was a much more

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Speaker 3: rare thing. But now one and three adolescents is developing

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Speaker 3: pre diabetes around the age of twelve to seventeen. Because

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Speaker 3: there's so much added sugar in everything that we eat.

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Speaker 3: And so even if as a parent or a person,

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Speaker 3: you're trying to do a good job managing and balancing

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Speaker 3: your nutrition, added sugar is hidden in yogurt, it's in cereals,

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Speaker 3: it's in breads, it's everywhere. And that's kind of, I think,

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Speaker 3: the biggest thing that's really affecting our population right now.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, no doubt. And doctor Kerosa, let me apologize. It's Carosa, right, Corosa, Yeah, Corosa.

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Speaker 4: I apologize. There was a typo in my paperwork here.

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Speaker 4: Hey listen, one of the running jokes on this program

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Speaker 4: is people often mispronounced my last name when I'm on here,

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Speaker 4: so I'm sensitive to getting that right. So let me

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Speaker 4: apologize for that. So, so tell us what are some

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Speaker 4: simple ways to cut down on consuming these added sugars, because,

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Speaker 4: like you said, it's you've got natural sugars that are

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Speaker 4: in a lot of things, and then you've got these

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Speaker 4: added sugars. How how are some ways that folks can

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Speaker 4: cut down on that?

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Speaker 3: So a couple things. One is, you know, every time

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Speaker 3: you have a meal, right, just you need to checklist

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Speaker 3: in your head, right, what are the components of that meal?

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Speaker 3: So's not you know, you hear all these carb free

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Speaker 3: diets and fads. We don't need to be carb free.

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Speaker 3: We just need to get the right amount of nutrition.

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Speaker 3: And so every time you sit down to a meal,

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Speaker 3: making sure, you know where is my fruit, where's my vegetable?

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Speaker 3: Where is my protein coming from? Right in addition to

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Speaker 3: your carbohydrate. So I'll tell people say, you know, I

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Speaker 3: had a cheat day and I went out for pizza,

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Speaker 3: and I was like, you didn't cheat anyone. It's okay

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Speaker 3: to balance, right, But when you go out for pizza, right,

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Speaker 3: like did you have a salad on the side or

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Speaker 3: did you only eat pizza? Right? If you've had a

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Speaker 3: couple pizza pizza, but you had a salad and you

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Speaker 3: got a pizza fruit when you got home, that's what

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Speaker 3: the body needs. It needs balance, right. So one thing

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Speaker 3: is whenever you're putting a meal together, think about the

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Speaker 3: different components of that meal and if everything is from

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Speaker 3: the carbohydrate or sugar food group. Right, you have a burger,

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Speaker 3: you have fries, you have a shake that's too much

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Speaker 3: sugar for your pancreas. So I think one of the

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Speaker 3: first things is when you're making a meal thinking about

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Speaker 3: your food groups.

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Speaker 12: The second the.

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Speaker 3: Thing is when you're at the grocery store. Right, you

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Speaker 3: know there's everyday foods and then there's sometimes foods. Right,

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Speaker 3: You're gonna sometimes have a dessert or ice cream. You

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Speaker 3: know when you're doing those things, I don't need you

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Speaker 3: to read the label every single time. If you're you know,

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Speaker 3: at Jenny's ice Cream or if you're at Graters, I

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Speaker 3: have to obviously mentioned, but when you're buying something that's

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Speaker 3: a staple for the home, reading how much added sugar

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Speaker 3: is in it. So women and children are supposed to

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Speaker 3: get no more than twenty five grams of added sugar

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Speaker 3: in a day, men thirty five, and one can of

865
00:50:38,000 --> 00:50:41,040
Speaker 3: soda is going to be thirty to forty grams of

866
00:50:41,160 --> 00:50:44,880
Speaker 3: added sugar, so straight sugar from the sugar bowl. So

867
00:50:44,960 --> 00:50:48,280
Speaker 3: if you have one can of soda, you've already gotten

868
00:50:48,440 --> 00:50:52,080
Speaker 3: all your added sugar for the day without eating any

869
00:50:52,120 --> 00:50:54,960
Speaker 3: other food, which obvious for the other food is what

870
00:50:55,080 --> 00:50:59,080
Speaker 3: fuels us. And so we really have to understand. So

871
00:50:59,440 --> 00:51:02,319
Speaker 3: I say, you know what, some sugar is fine, right,

872
00:51:02,360 --> 00:51:04,480
Speaker 3: If I'm buying a yogurt for my kids and it's

873
00:51:04,480 --> 00:51:07,200
Speaker 3: got five grams of added sugar and you can get

874
00:51:07,200 --> 00:51:09,000
Speaker 3: twenty five in a day, then I'm okay with that.

875
00:51:09,440 --> 00:51:11,680
Speaker 3: But if you're picking up a yogurt or an apple

876
00:51:11,719 --> 00:51:14,319
Speaker 3: sauce that has ten fifteen grams of added sugar for

877
00:51:14,400 --> 00:51:16,440
Speaker 3: your kid, that's already half of what they need in

878
00:51:16,480 --> 00:51:20,080
Speaker 3: the day. So while the calories might not be too much,

879
00:51:20,120 --> 00:51:24,680
Speaker 3: you're really making their pancreous work over time. And for kids,

880
00:51:24,719 --> 00:51:27,200
Speaker 3: I described that as if your teacher gave you two

881
00:51:27,280 --> 00:51:29,400
Speaker 3: pages of homework, could you bring it back tomorrow? And

882
00:51:29,440 --> 00:51:32,120
Speaker 3: they're like, yeah, sure, if she gave you two hundred,

883
00:51:32,239 --> 00:51:34,399
Speaker 3: could you bring it back tomorrow? And they all look

884
00:51:34,440 --> 00:51:37,359
Speaker 3: at me like I'm crazy, right, And so it's not

885
00:51:37,440 --> 00:51:39,520
Speaker 3: that our pancreat doesn't want to do work, it just

886
00:51:39,600 --> 00:51:42,120
Speaker 3: can't do that much work all at one time.

887
00:51:42,680 --> 00:51:46,120
Speaker 4: Right, So that extra refill at dinner when they come

888
00:51:46,120 --> 00:51:47,799
Speaker 4: back and ask you if you want to refill on

889
00:51:47,840 --> 00:51:48,960
Speaker 4: your soda, probably want to.

890
00:51:48,880 --> 00:51:49,680
Speaker 6: Turn that down.

891
00:51:50,400 --> 00:51:51,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, alternate with water?

892
00:51:52,320 --> 00:51:52,759
Speaker 6: All right?

893
00:51:53,120 --> 00:51:55,839
Speaker 4: So what are some other healthy eating habits that kids

894
00:51:55,880 --> 00:51:56,920
Speaker 4: and adults can adopt.

895
00:51:58,840 --> 00:52:01,400
Speaker 3: One of the biggest things I see as kids skipping

896
00:52:01,400 --> 00:52:05,520
Speaker 3: breakfast adults as well. You're tired in the morning, you're

897
00:52:05,520 --> 00:52:09,400
Speaker 3: in a rush. But when we skip breakfast, our body

898
00:52:09,440 --> 00:52:11,920
Speaker 3: feels upset. Right, It's like trying to get your car

899
00:52:11,960 --> 00:52:13,799
Speaker 3: to move with no gas in it, right, It's not

900
00:52:13,800 --> 00:52:16,680
Speaker 3: going to go anywhere. And so what the body does

901
00:52:16,800 --> 00:52:19,479
Speaker 3: is it sends out chemicals or signals to say, hey,

902
00:52:19,600 --> 00:52:23,080
Speaker 3: I need more fuel, and I need it fast because

903
00:52:23,120 --> 00:52:26,480
Speaker 3: I'm already running on empty. So it actually increases your

904
00:52:26,520 --> 00:52:30,680
Speaker 3: sugar cravings and tells you to find fuel fast and urgently.

905
00:52:31,440 --> 00:52:34,280
Speaker 3: So if we were to eat breakfast, especially a breakfast

906
00:52:34,280 --> 00:52:39,440
Speaker 3: with a good amount of protein, eggs or breakfast meats, nuts,

907
00:52:39,640 --> 00:52:44,839
Speaker 3: Greek yogurts, beans, you'll get the energy that you need,

908
00:52:44,880 --> 00:52:49,399
Speaker 3: but you'll also decrease cravings for sugars later in the day.

909
00:52:50,080 --> 00:52:53,120
Speaker 3: It's okay to like sweets. It's that we don't want

910
00:52:53,160 --> 00:52:55,560
Speaker 3: our body to feel like it has to have it

911
00:52:55,680 --> 00:52:56,600
Speaker 3: to function.

912
00:52:57,400 --> 00:53:00,799
Speaker 4: All right, doctor Farosa. Where cans than families find more

913
00:53:00,840 --> 00:53:04,120
Speaker 4: resources about nutrition, So for.

914
00:53:04,480 --> 00:53:08,560
Speaker 3: Child specific nutrition, which I think can be really difficult. Right,

915
00:53:08,600 --> 00:53:09,920
Speaker 3: you have a kid and all of a sudden, you're

916
00:53:09,960 --> 00:53:12,560
Speaker 3: supposed to know what their serving sizes is are I

917
00:53:12,600 --> 00:53:15,960
Speaker 3: always tell parents to go to the American Academy at Pediatrics,

918
00:53:16,000 --> 00:53:19,839
Speaker 3: Healthy Children's dot Org and they have handouts about how

919
00:53:19,840 --> 00:53:24,000
Speaker 3: to make balanced meals, about quick breakfast and lunch. Also

920
00:53:24,200 --> 00:53:27,200
Speaker 3: for age, when half a sandwich is an appropriate serving

921
00:53:27,239 --> 00:53:29,080
Speaker 3: for a three year old versus what age you get

922
00:53:29,080 --> 00:53:32,920
Speaker 3: to a full on serving for adults. American Heart Association

923
00:53:33,160 --> 00:53:37,280
Speaker 3: has great examples on their website that's www dot heart

924
00:53:37,280 --> 00:53:40,920
Speaker 3: dot org, so those can be some excellent places to

925
00:53:41,040 --> 00:53:45,160
Speaker 3: get both nutrition information as well as simple recipes.

926
00:53:46,239 --> 00:53:48,680
Speaker 4: Well, doctor Carosa, thank you so much for your time

927
00:53:48,719 --> 00:53:51,440
Speaker 4: today and this very helpful information which I think we

928
00:53:51,440 --> 00:53:53,960
Speaker 4: can all use in terms of looking at how we

929
00:53:54,000 --> 00:53:55,200
Speaker 4: can make healthier and.

930
00:53:55,120 --> 00:53:58,640
Speaker 6: Better choices and do better with our nutrition levels. Thank

931
00:53:58,680 --> 00:53:59,280
Speaker 6: you so much.

932
00:54:00,000 --> 00:54:01,839
Speaker 3: You were welcome. Thank you for having me in Happy

933
00:54:01,920 --> 00:54:02,959
Speaker 3: nutrition mine, All.

934
00:54:02,920 --> 00:54:05,600
Speaker 4: Right, Sam to you? All right, there you have it.

935
00:54:05,640 --> 00:54:10,200
Speaker 4: That was doctor Kurosa from Cincinnati Children's Hospital talking about nutrition,

936
00:54:10,320 --> 00:54:12,480
Speaker 4: and I think there's a lot of really good information

937
00:54:12,640 --> 00:54:14,879
Speaker 4: there that we can all stand to learn, at least

938
00:54:14,920 --> 00:54:16,879
Speaker 4: I know I can. I can't speak for anybody else,

939
00:54:16,880 --> 00:54:19,600
Speaker 4: but I can speak for myself that I definitely need

940
00:54:19,640 --> 00:54:23,799
Speaker 4: to do something about my sweets control, like a little

941
00:54:24,239 --> 00:54:26,120
Speaker 4: a little bit too much cake and pie.

942
00:54:26,280 --> 00:54:27,879
Speaker 6: So gotta do better there.

943
00:54:28,000 --> 00:54:29,719
Speaker 4: All right, before we take a break, We got a

944
00:54:29,760 --> 00:54:31,279
Speaker 4: couple of minutes before we have to go to break,

945
00:54:31,280 --> 00:54:32,759
Speaker 4: so I'm gonna try to get in a call because

946
00:54:32,800 --> 00:54:35,719
Speaker 4: I know Denise from College Hill you've been hanging on

947
00:54:36,280 --> 00:54:38,440
Speaker 4: for quite some time, so I want to get your

948
00:54:38,480 --> 00:54:39,400
Speaker 4: comments in Denise.

949
00:54:39,400 --> 00:54:40,560
Speaker 6: Thank you for being patient.

950
00:54:41,160 --> 00:54:43,279
Speaker 7: Thank you, mister al Rich. I all like to say

951
00:54:43,360 --> 00:54:45,600
Speaker 7: is that it's been a tradition in my family to

952
00:54:45,640 --> 00:54:49,359
Speaker 7: go to the Ridge parade because I've been a long

953
00:54:49,480 --> 00:54:53,640
Speaker 7: time native, and I was in over n over twenty years.

954
00:54:53,719 --> 00:54:57,239
Speaker 7: I mean College Hill is twenty twelve. But what I

955
00:54:57,360 --> 00:55:04,560
Speaker 7: seen yesterday was a lot of people having a great

956
00:55:04,640 --> 00:55:07,960
Speaker 7: time and a lot of that brown stuff, a little

957
00:55:07,960 --> 00:55:11,480
Speaker 7: beard coming around. I got down on racing vine in

958
00:55:11,520 --> 00:55:15,320
Speaker 7: front of the restrooms in Washington Park at ten am,

959
00:55:15,840 --> 00:55:17,680
Speaker 7: cause I know what it's gonna be like, the parking

960
00:55:17,719 --> 00:55:19,799
Speaker 7: and everything, so I don't mind you sitting. And I

961
00:55:19,840 --> 00:55:22,480
Speaker 7: have a road there, little wheel that I can sit on.

962
00:55:22,560 --> 00:55:25,000
Speaker 7: So I sat there and just said hello to people.

963
00:55:25,040 --> 00:55:28,200
Speaker 7: People didn't wanna see hello my little grandkids, or why

964
00:55:28,280 --> 00:55:30,080
Speaker 7: you talking to the moment. They don't wanna say nothing

965
00:55:30,120 --> 00:55:31,640
Speaker 7: to you. I said, I know, that's why I say

966
00:55:31,840 --> 00:55:34,200
Speaker 7: good morning. They don't expect it. They look, they look

967
00:55:34,320 --> 00:55:37,560
Speaker 7: so surprised, Cavin. It was just ridiculous. One said, well,

968
00:55:37,600 --> 00:55:40,040
Speaker 7: how are you doing today? I said, good morning, good morning?

969
00:55:40,120 --> 00:55:42,360
Speaker 7: Would to smile you? They look and the kids, you know,

970
00:55:42,400 --> 00:55:43,920
Speaker 7: they hit their head can because they didn't want you

971
00:55:44,000 --> 00:55:46,000
Speaker 7: to see that. They didn't want to see you because

972
00:55:46,160 --> 00:55:48,480
Speaker 7: they didn't want so they've been told, look your head down,

973
00:55:48,600 --> 00:55:50,719
Speaker 7: keep your head down, don't see nothing. Nobody. I said,

974
00:55:50,719 --> 00:55:52,960
Speaker 7: good morning, y'all, how y'all doing? And it was just

975
00:55:53,000 --> 00:55:55,400
Speaker 7: so shocking this. I just I just love doing that.

976
00:55:55,640 --> 00:55:58,719
Speaker 7: But I mean, Kevin, I think really there's a lot

977
00:55:58,719 --> 00:56:00,880
Speaker 7: of things going on, and I would like to just

978
00:56:00,880 --> 00:56:04,200
Speaker 7: throw out this example. Remember what happened to the brawl

979
00:56:04,520 --> 00:56:08,000
Speaker 7: after the game, you know, after the festival whatever it is, right,

980
00:56:08,080 --> 00:56:10,680
Speaker 7: and remember how long it took them to take care

981
00:56:10,680 --> 00:56:13,640
Speaker 7: of the Russian, you know, to get him taken care of.

982
00:56:13,760 --> 00:56:16,520
Speaker 7: But guess what, mister Audrey, ain't nobody taking care of

983
00:56:16,840 --> 00:56:18,439
Speaker 7: Judge Tracy Hunter yet?

984
00:56:18,440 --> 00:56:18,920
Speaker 3: Have they?

985
00:56:19,000 --> 00:56:21,680
Speaker 7: Have they handled her yet? Have she had her friend

986
00:56:21,760 --> 00:56:25,799
Speaker 7: seek on our on our media and everything? What about that?

987
00:56:25,920 --> 00:56:26,360
Speaker 11: You remember that?

988
00:56:27,400 --> 00:56:29,880
Speaker 7: Huh? I'm just saying there are a lot of things

989
00:56:29,920 --> 00:56:35,120
Speaker 7: heated up in Cincinnati along. There was no reason for uh,

990
00:56:35,239 --> 00:56:39,680
Speaker 7: miss Rowley before Timothy Thomas was murdered, right, but after

991
00:56:39,719 --> 00:56:42,120
Speaker 7: that we got the collaborator. And that's been over twenty

992
00:56:42,120 --> 00:56:46,160
Speaker 7: five years, mister Kevin, and we still you know, getting

993
00:56:46,360 --> 00:56:49,080
Speaker 7: she's getting blown back from that. I remember her from

994
00:56:49,160 --> 00:56:51,640
Speaker 7: the United Black Friend. Okay, so I've got a little

995
00:56:51,680 --> 00:56:54,120
Speaker 7: history what I'm talking about. But people need to just

996
00:56:54,520 --> 00:56:58,760
Speaker 7: listen sometime to Miss Rowley, to their teenagers, to their children,

997
00:56:59,000 --> 00:57:01,520
Speaker 7: to every It doesn't heard to listen. But things are

998
00:57:01,560 --> 00:57:04,799
Speaker 7: going on now that wasn't going on twenty five years ago.

999
00:57:05,080 --> 00:57:08,080
Speaker 7: I don't know about you, kiss, but I'm almost seventy.

1000
00:57:08,400 --> 00:57:12,560
Speaker 7: We used to have after school program, after school jobs,

1001
00:57:12,640 --> 00:57:15,960
Speaker 7: you know, youth. We used to have the thing I

1002
00:57:16,000 --> 00:57:18,280
Speaker 7: had a jib from twelve years old until I was

1003
00:57:18,320 --> 00:57:23,040
Speaker 7: eighteen and started college. We had jobs. When you have jobs,

1004
00:57:23,040 --> 00:57:24,640
Speaker 7: you ain't kind of you ain't get that time to

1005
00:57:24,680 --> 00:57:27,880
Speaker 7: be on the Devil's time doing that thing. So all

1006
00:57:27,920 --> 00:57:30,600
Speaker 7: I'm saying is a lot of people need to stand

1007
00:57:30,720 --> 00:57:34,840
Speaker 7: still and just just take a breath. There was a

1008
00:57:34,840 --> 00:57:37,720
Speaker 7: lot of alcohol early in the morning. I'm talking beer

1009
00:57:37,840 --> 00:57:41,120
Speaker 7: at the extreme from Washington Park anyway, Okay, and there

1010
00:57:41,160 --> 00:57:45,000
Speaker 7: was a lot of youth that wasn't supervised as there

1011
00:57:45,120 --> 00:57:47,480
Speaker 7: is with the spring break and everything. But just listen

1012
00:57:47,560 --> 00:57:51,680
Speaker 7: and take time to just woo sol, you know, because

1013
00:57:51,760 --> 00:57:54,440
Speaker 7: a lot of things good happened yesterday, and it was

1014
00:57:54,520 --> 00:57:58,200
Speaker 7: towards to end, and it was after the parade, So

1015
00:57:58,320 --> 00:58:00,600
Speaker 7: don't stop the parade or do that. We have to break.

1016
00:58:01,040 --> 00:58:04,600
Speaker 7: Just listen to everybody that comes to the table and

1017
00:58:04,640 --> 00:58:07,680
Speaker 7: give them a share of their time, all respect one

1018
00:58:07,760 --> 00:58:11,000
Speaker 7: another break out, all right, show.

1019
00:58:10,800 --> 00:58:12,360
Speaker 6: You too, Thank you, I appreciate it.

1020
00:58:12,720 --> 00:58:14,640
Speaker 4: All right, y'all, We're gonna take a quick break, and

1021
00:58:14,680 --> 00:58:16,120
Speaker 4: when we come out of the break, we're gonna have

1022
00:58:16,160 --> 00:58:18,920
Speaker 4: Cincinnati City Councilman Scottie Johnson on with us, and we're

1023
00:58:18,920 --> 00:58:22,000
Speaker 4: going to get his perspective on yesterday and how do

1024
00:58:22,080 --> 00:58:24,720
Speaker 4: we move forward as a city. This is the Lincoln

1025
00:58:24,760 --> 00:58:28,440
Speaker 4: Where Show, Kevin Alder sitting in until one o'clock twelve thirty,

1026
00:58:28,520 --> 00:58:33,600
Speaker 4: your talk station, Buzz of Cincinnati, your talk station, The

1027
00:58:33,680 --> 00:58:36,680
Speaker 4: lincoln Ware Show here with you until one o'clock. And

1028
00:58:36,680 --> 00:58:39,960
Speaker 4: we're about halfway through the show today, almost halfway through,

1029
00:58:40,000 --> 00:58:44,560
Speaker 4: and we've been talking about the disturbances after the Reds

1030
00:58:44,600 --> 00:58:47,560
Speaker 4: game last night on Opening Day and sort of talking

1031
00:58:47,560 --> 00:58:50,800
Speaker 4: about some solutions and how do we move forward. And

1032
00:58:50,840 --> 00:58:53,160
Speaker 4: again the phone lines are full, but right now we've

1033
00:58:53,200 --> 00:58:57,240
Speaker 4: got Cincinnati City Councilman Scottie Johnson in the studio with

1034
00:58:57,320 --> 00:58:59,240
Speaker 4: us today Scotti. First, let me thank you for taking

1035
00:58:59,280 --> 00:59:02,200
Speaker 4: time out of what I know is a busy schedule

1036
00:59:02,360 --> 00:59:05,680
Speaker 4: to come in and talk with us today. So obviously

1037
00:59:05,720 --> 00:59:07,760
Speaker 4: I want to get your perspective, and a lot of

1038
00:59:07,800 --> 00:59:11,680
Speaker 4: the conversation will be after what we saw last night. Hey,

1039
00:59:11,720 --> 00:59:13,920
Speaker 4: what is what is city council going to do? What

1040
00:59:13,960 --> 00:59:15,640
Speaker 4: are the you know, what are going to be the

1041
00:59:15,640 --> 00:59:20,160
Speaker 4: steps forward? The mayor put out his statement today. From

1042
00:59:20,200 --> 00:59:23,240
Speaker 4: your perch on Cincinnati City Council. I mean, you've you've

1043
00:59:23,280 --> 00:59:26,800
Speaker 4: worn many hats. You're resident, you a former law enforcement

1044
00:59:27,840 --> 00:59:30,920
Speaker 4: and now you sit on city council. Sort of give

1045
00:59:31,000 --> 00:59:33,919
Speaker 4: us that putting on those three lenses and those three hats.

1046
00:59:34,040 --> 00:59:36,720
Speaker 4: Just kind of talk to me about how you're processing.

1047
00:59:36,400 --> 00:59:40,040
Speaker 11: This once, Kevin, thanks for having me, sir, you know,

1048
00:59:40,160 --> 00:59:45,720
Speaker 11: you know straightened Just to the point, no chaser, I'm

1049
00:59:45,760 --> 00:59:50,720
Speaker 11: on a personal accountability kick right now. It's not even

1050
00:59:50,760 --> 00:59:57,680
Speaker 11: about opening Day, it's not about downtown, it's not about

1051
00:59:57,920 --> 01:00:03,400
Speaker 11: any of that. For me, It's really back to how

1052
01:00:03,400 --> 01:00:08,000
Speaker 11: do we see each other? How do we really see

1053
01:00:08,040 --> 01:00:17,160
Speaker 11: each other? So yesterday amazing day, I think one of

1054
01:00:17,200 --> 01:00:22,040
Speaker 11: the largest crowds ever, more entries in the parade. I

1055
01:00:22,120 --> 01:00:26,560
Speaker 11: was in the parade. I was downtown, and we cannot

1056
01:00:26,720 --> 01:00:32,120
Speaker 11: get away from accountability when it comes to people that

1057
01:00:32,280 --> 01:00:35,840
Speaker 11: started drinking, probably Kevin at seven o'clock in the morning,

1058
01:00:36,360 --> 01:00:41,800
Speaker 11: just because it is Opening Day. And listen, every prayer

1059
01:00:41,800 --> 01:00:46,360
Speaker 11: for everybody that was consuming alcohol is grown. But you

1060
01:00:46,440 --> 01:00:53,560
Speaker 11: still got to be accountable for your actions from another lens.

1061
01:00:54,000 --> 01:00:56,600
Speaker 11: We got to also be honest about the fact that

1062
01:00:56,680 --> 01:01:02,480
Speaker 11: there are a group of people that are held to

1063
01:01:02,560 --> 01:01:05,280
Speaker 11: a higher standard to keep the law of the land

1064
01:01:05,320 --> 01:01:06,560
Speaker 11: in the city of Cincinnati.

1065
01:01:06,920 --> 01:01:08,440
Speaker 5: Those are our police officers.

1066
01:01:09,440 --> 01:01:14,160
Speaker 11: I salute the way the Cincinnati Police, the Hamilton County

1067
01:01:14,200 --> 01:01:17,600
Speaker 11: Sheriff's Department, and there was some highway patrol. I salute

1068
01:01:17,600 --> 01:01:25,160
Speaker 11: how they maintained control and decorum based on what they

1069
01:01:25,200 --> 01:01:32,360
Speaker 11: were facing. Ladies and gentlemen, you cannot, despite how you feel,

1070
01:01:32,480 --> 01:01:35,919
Speaker 11: despite who you're mad at, despite who you're beefing with,

1071
01:01:36,480 --> 01:01:45,080
Speaker 11: you cannot continuously spray mace around crowds. And then the

1072
01:01:45,160 --> 01:01:49,800
Speaker 11: police are there drawing a line, and now you run

1073
01:01:49,880 --> 01:01:52,880
Speaker 11: toward that line, and now you're going to break and

1074
01:01:52,960 --> 01:01:54,560
Speaker 11: trespass where they say you can.

1075
01:01:54,880 --> 01:01:55,960
Speaker 5: You can no longer go.

1076
01:01:57,880 --> 01:02:00,600
Speaker 4: So that's what you saw happening there. People in the

1077
01:02:00,640 --> 01:02:03,880
Speaker 4: crowd who had chemical irritants. I heard something about some

1078
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Speaker 4: people might have had some tasers, and so that was

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Speaker 4: going on in that crowd, and that was why a

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Speaker 4: lot of people were rushing toward the line that the

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Speaker 4: police had set up down at the banks.

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Speaker 5: There was more they were there now now.

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Speaker 11: Unfortunately, it's been reported that a lot of those fights

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Speaker 11: yesterday involve people spraying mace. And if you got the

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Speaker 11: right chemical irritant, you're going to do whatever you need

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Speaker 11: to do to get out of that area, because it

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Speaker 11: is it will choke you, your eye, you're blinded, you're

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Speaker 11: all of that. But I'm still back to personal accountability, Kevin.

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Speaker 11: I'm still back to how do we see each other?

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Speaker 11: And now as I heard a little bit about I

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01:02:48,120 --> 01:02:51,720
Speaker 11: heard a little of sister Iris, She's absolutely right. There

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Speaker 11: are amazing contributing factors to all of this, but it

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Speaker 11: still comes down to how you see me.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, So, Scotty, what here's one of the things that

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Speaker 4: I get concerned about. And the mayor kind of alluded

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Speaker 4: to this in his statement talking about more crime control

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Speaker 4: measures that go on at events. And we know we've

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Speaker 4: got the Cincinnati Music Festival that's going to be coming

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Speaker 4: up here in a couple of months. And I remember

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01:03:16,360 --> 01:03:19,200
Speaker 4: when I first started working for the Inquirer in Cincinnati.

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Speaker 4: When I first got here, the music festival was almost

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01:03:22,920 --> 01:03:27,200
Speaker 4: treated like a crime state, right, Like police were everywhere.

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Speaker 4: You had police on horseback, they were on every corner.

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Speaker 4: Restaurants shut down, businesses were closed, and black people took

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Speaker 4: like great umbrage to how they were being treated and

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Speaker 4: how the downtown area responded to them. And part of

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Speaker 4: what my fear is is that we might be with

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Speaker 4: some of these things that are happening, that we might

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Speaker 4: be headed back. You know, we're in an era where

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01:03:49,240 --> 01:03:52,360
Speaker 4: we're talking about things being rolled back and us taking

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Speaker 4: steps back. And I worry about when things like this happened,

1113
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Speaker 4: that setting up the table for more of those type

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Speaker 4: of things that we thought we had graduated from and

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Speaker 4: move past. Do you worry about that? And from a

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01:04:06,600 --> 01:04:09,640
Speaker 4: city council policy standpoint, when you hear the mayor talk

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Speaker 4: about more, you know, more restrictive crowd control mechanisms, where

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Speaker 4: does your mind go with that?

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Speaker 5: First of all, I will never.

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Speaker 11: Ever agree to go back to how the festival was policed.

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Speaker 5: We're not going back to that. We're not going back to.

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Speaker 11: Let's just be frank, I was a policeman there. There

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Speaker 11: was a level of disrespect that was unacceptable. I will

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Speaker 11: never go back to where we were being disrespectful before

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Speaker 11: there's anything going on. Never having said that, though, I

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Speaker 11: am concerned about the optics and then really the safety

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Speaker 11: of our citizens and our police police officers, because now,

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Speaker 11: although I'm praising God that we didn't have shots fired

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Speaker 11: last night, I'm praising God there was really ain't nobody

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Speaker 11: seriously injured.

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Speaker 5: But we got to get to a point.

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Speaker 11: To where the people that choose to come and celebrate

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Speaker 11: Opening Day, that choose to come and celebrate the festival,

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Speaker 11: the people that choose to come to have a good

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Speaker 11: time in Cincinnati, they're carrying a certain amount of accountability

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Speaker 11: with them too. We are not going to police our

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Speaker 11: way out of society in twenty twenty six. Society in

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Speaker 11: twenty twenty six is completely off the chain. I don't

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Speaker 11: care what major city you go to. There are issues

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Speaker 11: in every one of those cities. But here in Cincinnati,

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Speaker 11: We've come a long way and we still got work

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01:05:52,240 --> 01:05:55,320
Speaker 11: to do. We're not going to go back to in

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01:05:55,360 --> 01:05:58,920
Speaker 11: the nineties how people were policed that's not going to happen.

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01:05:59,240 --> 01:06:02,960
Speaker 11: The citizens, I don't think would tolerate that. But I

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01:06:03,000 --> 01:06:06,480
Speaker 11: am also asking I think Sister Coiris calls it the class.

1146
01:06:06,480 --> 01:06:09,320
Speaker 11: I'm asking the class to show up with class too.

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01:06:10,520 --> 01:06:15,360
Speaker 11: So from a law enforcement perspective, they have a job,

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01:06:15,480 --> 01:06:18,000
Speaker 11: they have a duty, and it's tough in twenty twenty six,

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01:06:18,920 --> 01:06:24,400
Speaker 11: but their safety is important too. Now, is there a

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Speaker 11: hierarchy where some people need to be treated more. I mean,

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Speaker 11: I don't believe there's a hierarchy when it comes to

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01:06:30,880 --> 01:06:35,280
Speaker 11: everybody being safe, But everybody plays a role in that, Kevin,

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01:06:35,640 --> 01:06:39,680
Speaker 11: including the business owners. We want every business to flourish

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Speaker 11: in Cincinnati. But just as I said in Tuesday and

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01:06:42,720 --> 01:06:46,000
Speaker 11: Safety and Quality of Life Committee, there's a role you

1156
01:06:46,040 --> 01:06:51,400
Speaker 11: play business owner on how your businesses are run. So

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Speaker 11: it's not all wrapped up in the police. It's not

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01:06:56,160 --> 01:06:59,280
Speaker 11: all wrapped up in city council policy. It's wrapped up

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Speaker 11: in police council policy and the citizens of Cincinnati conducting

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Speaker 11: themselves to where there is a respect one for another.

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Speaker 4: Okay, all right, this is a good spot for us

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01:07:12,000 --> 01:07:13,480
Speaker 4: to take a break. Scotty, I want you to hang

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Speaker 4: in there a little more conversation and maybe we'll take

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Speaker 4: a few calls from some of the folks. So we're

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Speaker 4: gonna take a quick break and when we come back,

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Speaker 4: we got more with Cincinnati City Councilor of Scottie Johnson,

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Speaker 4: and we'll get some of your calls in the Lincoln

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Speaker 4: Where show on twelve thirty WDBZ, The Buzz of Cincinnati

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01:07:31,240 --> 01:07:34,160
Speaker 4: and Where Show. Kevin Alder sitting in for Lincoln today

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Speaker 4: until one thirty. A man, we have had a busy

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01:07:38,480 --> 01:07:42,440
Speaker 4: day today, lot of good conversation and there's nothing that

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Speaker 4: goes along with good conversation like good food. So we're

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Speaker 4: gonna go down to the Dukester and find out what's

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Speaker 4: going on today.

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Speaker 6: What do you got on the menu?

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Speaker 12: Hey, top of the morning to you that Kevin and

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01:07:54,200 --> 01:08:00,160
Speaker 12: what's happening Buzz listens and welcome the Friday, March twenty second.

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Speaker 12: That everybody knows that the Reds lost to the Boston

1179
01:08:02,680 --> 01:08:06,240
Speaker 12: Red Sox yesterday threat and nothing, But did you know

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01:08:06,360 --> 01:08:10,200
Speaker 12: you can get late morning buttermilk pancake breakfast at the

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Speaker 12: duce To today with three pancakes, two scrambled eggs, bacon

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01:08:14,560 --> 01:08:17,639
Speaker 12: or sausage, and a fresh cup of coffee, and I'm

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01:08:17,680 --> 01:08:20,360
Speaker 12: sure if you stop by today you're gonna hit a

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Speaker 12: home run.

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Speaker 13: Now, Kevin, I know you've.

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01:08:23,040 --> 01:08:25,959
Speaker 12: Heard me talking about the Douce is Sold Food Buffet

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Speaker 12: on Sunday.

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Speaker 13: Well, here's what's on this Sunday's menu, starting with our

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Speaker 13: barbecue ribs and rib chips, smothered pork chops, fried chicken,

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Speaker 13: baked chicken, all the fish you can eat, butterm all

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Speaker 13: turkey with corn bread dresses, fried corn, collared greens, candy jams,

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01:08:44,160 --> 01:08:48,759
Speaker 13: smothered cabbage, hot buttered corn bread, green beans, pinto beans,

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01:08:48,800 --> 01:08:52,360
Speaker 13: tossed salad, and more with butter cream, pound cake, coffee,

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Speaker 13: iced tea and lemonade or dessert. That's this Sunday at

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Speaker 13: the Duke Strip for one in the five now, Kevin,

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Speaker 13: if you hungry right now, you can come on buy

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Speaker 13: for our country fried chicken meal with gravy, rice and

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Speaker 13: candy jims, or stop in for our golden salmon croquette

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Speaker 13: with fried potatoes and onions and Smother's cabbage.

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Speaker 12: I'll grab yourself one of those big old Saint Louis

1201
01:09:14,800 --> 01:09:18,760
Speaker 12: Bobby he Riz with baked beans and coldslaw. But my

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Speaker 12: pick for today, Kevin, is our Crispy Cash fish nuggets

1203
01:09:22,360 --> 01:09:25,400
Speaker 12: with macaroni and cheese and cold flaw. If I don't

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01:09:25,400 --> 01:09:28,240
Speaker 12: see you today, I'd love to see you Saturday or

1205
01:09:28,360 --> 01:09:32,720
Speaker 12: for the Sunday Soul Food Buffet. Have a great weekend, everybody.

1206
01:09:32,960 --> 01:09:34,240
Speaker 12: We'll talk Atchilady Cabbage.

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Speaker 6: All right, you have a good one. I tell you what.

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Speaker 4: I wasn't hungry before the duster came home, but I

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01:09:39,640 --> 01:09:42,639
Speaker 4: certainly and you know this comes on the heels. If

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01:09:42,680 --> 01:09:46,559
Speaker 4: we just had doctor Carroza from Cincinnati Children's on talk

1211
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Speaker 4: about nutrition, and man, he just went Man, he just

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01:09:49,680 --> 01:09:53,000
Speaker 4: went on and on and on and so many good selections.

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01:09:53,000 --> 01:09:55,240
Speaker 4: And so if you're hungry, head on down to the

1214
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Speaker 4: Duke stir. If you didn't find something on that menu

1215
01:09:58,320 --> 01:10:00,200
Speaker 4: that sounded advertising to you, I.

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Speaker 5: Don't found this fantastic, man it did. It sounded good?

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Speaker 4: All right, So listen, we're gonna get back into this

1218
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Speaker 4: conversation with Cincinnati City Council and Scottie Johnson here in

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Speaker 4: the studio with me and Scotty. When we were in

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Speaker 4: the break, we were kind of talking about this a

1221
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Speaker 4: little bit, and I want to go to this conversation.

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Speaker 4: A couple of questions. I want you to sort of

1223
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Speaker 4: answer one. I was asking you just to kind of

1224
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Speaker 4: lean on your experience as a as a police officer

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Speaker 4: and this notion of we talked about the alcohol and

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Speaker 4: the influence that that might have had in it, but

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Speaker 4: how much of what we might have saw might be

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Speaker 4: individuals who come to events like that with the intention

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Speaker 4: to be disruptive? Because we know you can have a

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Speaker 4: whole bunch of people who are just down there to

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Speaker 4: have a good time, but we all know that they're

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Speaker 4: no matter what event that you go to, you might

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Speaker 4: run into one or two people who are there for

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Speaker 4: other reasons other than to just have a good time.

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Speaker 4: How much of that do you think is a play?

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Speaker 4: And then I want to give you this second question

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01:11:00,800 --> 01:11:05,160
Speaker 4: so then you can just kind of speak, is this

1238
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Speaker 4: notion of the narrative right that has been painted of

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Speaker 4: Cincinnati sort of nationally since the brawl last summer. Now

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Speaker 4: you've got folks who might be in Cincinnati from Boston

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Speaker 4: to be here for this series, and they're seeing that.

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Speaker 4: How concerned are you as a representative of the city

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Speaker 4: and all of these conversations that we've had about the

1244
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Speaker 4: image of downtown safety, people being afraid to come downtown.

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Speaker 4: Certainly some folks who were probably in there probably say, hey,

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Speaker 4: you won't see me again after this. So talk about

1247
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Speaker 4: that narrative, your concerns about that, how do you offset it?

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Speaker 4: And then that that first part so.

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Speaker 11: Well, you know, unfortunately, when you have crowds of some

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Speaker 11: crowds of that, if you included the people at the

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Speaker 11: game and those downtown, you're talking well over one hundred

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Speaker 11: thousand plus people that were in downtown Cincinnati yesterday. In

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Speaker 11: that one hundred thousand plus people. Absolutely, I do believe

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Speaker 11: there are people there just to look for an opportunity

1255
01:12:07,160 --> 01:12:10,360
Speaker 11: to be an idiot, no doubt about it. Now you

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Speaker 11: take that ad the alcohol, add the fact that I

1257
01:12:13,720 --> 01:12:16,920
Speaker 11: saw somebody over there that I don't like. Now my

1258
01:12:17,040 --> 01:12:20,760
Speaker 11: courage is up, my adrenaline is flowing. Now it's time

1259
01:12:20,800 --> 01:12:23,960
Speaker 11: to act a fool. And I believe that does take

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01:12:24,000 --> 01:12:28,240
Speaker 11: place in a lot of large settings. There are people

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Speaker 11: to go to the football game to root for their team,

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Speaker 11: and when their team loses, they want to fight somebody

1263
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Speaker 11: with has an opposite jersey on. So there are people

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Speaker 11: that do that, and that is so unfortunate. That's a

1265
01:12:39,360 --> 01:12:43,519
Speaker 11: societal issue, not a Cincinnati issue. Having said that though

1266
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Speaker 11: I do have to take a step back with something

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Speaker 11: the FOP president said yesterday when it talks about Cincinnati, Kevin,

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01:12:52,200 --> 01:12:55,960
Speaker 11: there is not one ordnance. There has not been one

1269
01:12:56,160 --> 01:13:01,519
Speaker 11: ask from the Cincinnati Police Department that the city Hall

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Speaker 11: has not responded to. We've changed absolutely, no policy or procedure.

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Speaker 5: Zero.

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Speaker 11: So when you talk about city Hall being soft on crime,

1273
01:13:16,640 --> 01:13:20,080
Speaker 11: anybody out there that can name one thing, and I'm

1274
01:13:20,080 --> 01:13:24,240
Speaker 11: talking about my tenure on council having knowing what it

1275
01:13:24,320 --> 01:13:27,679
Speaker 11: takes to be a Cincinnati police officer, name me one

1276
01:13:27,720 --> 01:13:30,439
Speaker 11: thing council has not done that the police have asked

1277
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Speaker 11: for now Kevin. Is the police department short on manpower? Absolutely,

1278
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Speaker 11: but we talked about that twenty years ago that that

1279
01:13:40,040 --> 01:13:45,400
Speaker 11: was coming. Are we allocating money and resources for recruiting,

1280
01:13:45,720 --> 01:13:50,479
Speaker 11: Absolutely we are. Are we understaff, Absolutely we are. But

1281
01:13:50,600 --> 01:13:55,160
Speaker 11: nobody can name one policy, procedures or ordinance that we

1282
01:13:55,400 --> 01:14:00,360
Speaker 11: have stopped the police from enforcing the law. If you

1283
01:14:00,479 --> 01:14:04,920
Speaker 11: have a problem with one particular entity of the justice system,

1284
01:14:05,439 --> 01:14:07,599
Speaker 11: talk to that. Just talk to that entity of the

1285
01:14:07,720 --> 01:14:15,080
Speaker 11: justice system. The mayor, nobody on council sets bonds. The

1286
01:14:15,120 --> 01:14:18,519
Speaker 11: mayor and noby on Council determines who goes on probation

1287
01:14:18,680 --> 01:14:21,679
Speaker 11: and who doesn't. The mayor and no by on council

1288
01:14:21,760 --> 01:14:27,479
Speaker 11: determines who gets strict probation who doesn't. So I have

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Speaker 11: to just be frank and honest anybody that keeps talking

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Speaker 11: about what we're not doing at city Hall. We've allocated

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Speaker 11: more money for juvenile jobs, juvenile resources than any other

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01:14:41,400 --> 01:14:45,120
Speaker 11: council in the history of Cincinnati. So when you talk

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01:14:45,160 --> 01:14:49,799
Speaker 11: about what we're not doing, I believe we're in our lane,

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01:14:49,920 --> 01:14:54,160
Speaker 11: playing our role. But this thing called life takes other

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01:14:54,280 --> 01:15:02,120
Speaker 11: players and takes other people in their lane playing their role. Cincinnati, unfortunately, Cincinnati,

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01:15:02,200 --> 01:15:05,200
Speaker 11: fortunately Kevin is still one of the safest major cities

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01:15:05,200 --> 01:15:08,559
Speaker 11: in this in the country. Incidents like that, of course,

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01:15:09,160 --> 01:15:12,120
Speaker 11: give us a bad name, but it's gonna take every

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01:15:12,240 --> 01:15:15,920
Speaker 11: last one of us to play our role, stay in

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01:15:15,960 --> 01:15:19,080
Speaker 11: our lane to get Cincinnati where it needs to be.

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Speaker 4: All Right, we're gonna we're gonna take a call here.

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Speaker 4: We're gonna go to Don on the phone line, and Don,

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01:15:24,280 --> 01:15:27,599
Speaker 4: do you got a comment or a question for Counselman Johnson?

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01:15:28,080 --> 01:15:30,160
Speaker 14: I have a comment I'm got in regards to the

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01:15:30,160 --> 01:15:30,639
Speaker 14: whole matter.

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01:15:30,840 --> 01:15:32,240
Speaker 6: All right, go ahead and you hear.

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01:15:32,120 --> 01:15:34,240
Speaker 14: Me clearly, I was a speaker, but I appreciate you

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01:15:34,280 --> 01:15:35,920
Speaker 14: taking the call. I've been on for an hour and

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01:15:36,000 --> 01:15:38,800
Speaker 14: a half and I understand because it's Powerpac Day and

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01:15:38,880 --> 01:15:41,120
Speaker 14: we needed to get the people in. But the first call,

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01:15:41,200 --> 01:15:44,080
Speaker 14: I have to say this, it was unnecessary. The first

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01:15:44,200 --> 01:15:47,320
Speaker 14: person to call name call, name calling names and things

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01:15:47,360 --> 01:15:50,080
Speaker 14: of that nature. That doesn't get that's not solutions, that's

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01:15:50,240 --> 01:15:53,800
Speaker 14: just I guess, quote unquote entertainment. But nevertheless, I have

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01:15:53,920 --> 01:15:56,719
Speaker 14: some things written down. Tomorrow there is a meeting at

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01:15:56,800 --> 01:16:00,920
Speaker 14: twenty six forty five North End Roads in Airy, and

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Speaker 14: this meeting is sponsored by the People Powered Chained. This

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01:16:05,560 --> 01:16:07,800
Speaker 14: meeting was already set a week ago and it set

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Speaker 14: forward tomorrow at eleven a m. Twenty six to twenty

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Speaker 14: five North Road. I placed it in the chat and

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Speaker 14: this is for a village minded people, people that are

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01:16:16,640 --> 01:16:21,160
Speaker 14: solution minded. We have a lot of people complaining pointing fingers.

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01:16:21,520 --> 01:16:25,600
Speaker 14: We need people to come together to strategize and to

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01:16:25,680 --> 01:16:30,080
Speaker 14: develop solutions. I was downtown the time. I know you've

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01:16:30,080 --> 01:16:32,759
Speaker 14: been going break soon, but I was downtown. I enjoyed

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01:16:32,840 --> 01:16:34,160
Speaker 14: the parade, So what's up?

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Speaker 6: Oh yeah, no, I just said, go ahead, go ahead, okay.

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Speaker 14: And I enjoyed the parade. I was down there failing Market,

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01:16:39,920 --> 01:16:43,240
Speaker 14: so where everything began I started. I was there. After

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01:16:43,320 --> 01:16:47,120
Speaker 14: the parade, I decided, I'm gonna go home because I

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01:16:47,680 --> 01:16:50,400
Speaker 14: stay home for two to three hours. It's nice outside,

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01:16:50,400 --> 01:16:52,760
Speaker 14: so I say, hey, I'm going to go downtown and

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Speaker 14: meet some friends. So I went downtown and traffic was

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01:16:55,800 --> 01:16:58,040
Speaker 14: really packed when I got off of the highway and

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Speaker 14: right near the new the well, the center, the convention Center,

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Speaker 14: newly revised, and it really looks nice, isn't there. So

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Speaker 14: I went to the auto show. Long story short, traffic

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Speaker 14: was packed, so I decided to I walked down, walk

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Speaker 14: down a little bit near the Omni Hotel, and then

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Speaker 14: walked back to my car. Stayed in the park for

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Speaker 14: a while, and never been to the park, so I

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Speaker 14: stayed in that little park area and then I got

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Speaker 14: in the car, turned on where the Netherlands is and

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Speaker 14: made a right. Traffic was packed on that next street,

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Speaker 14: so I went all the way down and hit the

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Speaker 14: highways headed home. And I said all that to say,

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01:17:31,640 --> 01:17:33,479
Speaker 14: when I see a crowd and I see a lot

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Speaker 14: going on, because I was going to go to the square,

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01:17:35,360 --> 01:17:37,320
Speaker 14: but I saw a lot going on in the square.

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Speaker 14: From a distance, I turned back around and went toward

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01:17:40,600 --> 01:17:44,800
Speaker 14: my car. It's sad with the situation what happened, but

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01:17:45,280 --> 01:17:48,639
Speaker 14: I really I saw people also complain about why school,

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01:17:48,920 --> 01:17:51,519
Speaker 14: why it was the school out for some spring break.

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01:17:52,560 --> 01:17:55,519
Speaker 14: People were going to come out regardless people no matter

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01:17:55,640 --> 01:17:58,720
Speaker 14: the ethnicity, kids gets cool. Their parents allowed them to

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01:17:58,760 --> 01:18:02,559
Speaker 14: do that because the opening day is considered an unofficial holiday,

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01:18:02,960 --> 01:18:05,120
Speaker 14: so you're going to have people down there regardless. There

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01:18:05,160 --> 01:18:07,719
Speaker 14: were also on top of the game that was a concert,

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01:18:07,960 --> 01:18:11,719
Speaker 14: new edition concert, so that was more traffic, more people.

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Speaker 14: So we have to be solution minded, and I appreciate

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01:18:16,800 --> 01:18:19,800
Speaker 14: that everything that everyone does that is solution minded and

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01:18:19,840 --> 01:18:23,280
Speaker 14: that is working as a village. So once again i'll

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Speaker 14: mention tomorrow twenty six, forty five North ben Roads in

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01:18:29,400 --> 01:18:33,519
Speaker 14: mount Airy. I encourage village minded people to come and

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01:18:33,640 --> 01:18:35,160
Speaker 14: let's deal with solutions.

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Speaker 4: Thanks all right, Don, thank you for that information. Thank

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01:18:38,760 --> 01:18:41,639
Speaker 4: you for your patience and hanging in there to give that.

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01:18:41,680 --> 01:18:43,240
Speaker 4: We're going to take a quick break and when we

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01:18:43,240 --> 01:18:45,160
Speaker 4: come back, we're going to get in more calls from you.

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01:18:45,240 --> 01:18:47,479
Speaker 4: I know we've had some people who've been patiently waiting,

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01:18:47,680 --> 01:18:49,519
Speaker 4: so we're gonna come back to you first.

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Speaker 6: Scotty, You're gonna stay with this for a little bit.

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01:18:51,960 --> 01:18:53,960
Speaker 4: Okay, Scotty's gonna hang with us for a little bit,

1374
01:18:54,000 --> 01:18:56,160
Speaker 4: So if you got questions for him, We're gonna get

1375
01:18:56,160 --> 01:18:58,640
Speaker 4: to the callers right after this break. Twelve thirty The

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Speaker 4: Buzz of Cincinnati. This is the Lincoln Wear Show, Nattie

1377
01:19:02,800 --> 01:19:05,320
Speaker 4: your talk station. This is the Lincoln Wear Show. And man,

1378
01:19:05,400 --> 01:19:08,720
Speaker 4: we have blown through the first couple of hours of

1379
01:19:08,800 --> 01:19:11,559
Speaker 4: this show, pulling up to the end of our number two.

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01:19:11,600 --> 01:19:13,080
Speaker 4: But we're going to get straight to the phones. And

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Speaker 4: I want to thank all of you who've been waiting

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01:19:14,880 --> 01:19:18,080
Speaker 4: on patiently. Ray, you've been on for a minute. What's

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01:19:18,160 --> 01:19:18,760
Speaker 4: on your mind?

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01:19:18,840 --> 01:19:19,280
Speaker 5: My man?

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Speaker 2: How's going? Kevin good Rick? Before I just let me

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01:19:23,680 --> 01:19:26,160
Speaker 2: say this, you're a last caller. He won a blast

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01:19:26,240 --> 01:19:29,320
Speaker 2: Bill for talking about Twin and Sean. Who is he

1388
01:19:29,479 --> 01:19:32,679
Speaker 2: to dictate what another caller should talk about? That's why

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01:19:32,720 --> 01:19:34,920
Speaker 2: you have an open platform, and thank you for going

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01:19:34,960 --> 01:19:37,879
Speaker 2: to Bill. Now let me say this. You said earlier

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Speaker 2: that it takes a village to raise a child. Didn't

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Speaker 2: you say that?

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Speaker 6: I did say that.

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01:19:43,200 --> 01:19:46,080
Speaker 2: These days is gone now these village just don't want

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01:19:46,080 --> 01:19:49,400
Speaker 2: to raise someone else's kids. You know when the media

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01:19:49,560 --> 01:19:54,160
Speaker 2: talk about I didn't see. I didn't see the chaos

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01:19:54,280 --> 01:19:59,560
Speaker 2: last night. But when the media said to you juveniles

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01:20:00,160 --> 01:20:02,479
Speaker 2: a cold word for black kids. Now, I don't know

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01:20:02,520 --> 01:20:06,720
Speaker 2: if any whites were involved. You mentioned earlier about adults

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01:20:06,840 --> 01:20:09,800
Speaker 2: in kids, where they white adults and white kids. I

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01:20:09,840 --> 01:20:12,400
Speaker 2: don't know because I didn't see it. But let me see.

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01:20:13,160 --> 01:20:17,040
Speaker 2: Some people believe you punished bad behavior, and some people

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01:20:17,120 --> 01:20:21,840
Speaker 2: believe that you excuse bad behavior. My thing is, why

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01:20:21,880 --> 01:20:24,960
Speaker 2: would number one, why would you not enforce the curfew?

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01:20:25,000 --> 01:20:27,479
Speaker 2: If the game starts at four, you know it's going

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01:20:27,560 --> 01:20:30,120
Speaker 2: to go into the evening, and with all that drinking

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01:20:30,160 --> 01:20:33,080
Speaker 2: from eight nine o'clock in the morning all through the night,

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01:20:33,560 --> 01:20:35,040
Speaker 2: something is about to go down.

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Speaker 9: Now.

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Speaker 2: Iris mentioned something about the media. The media hype up

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01:20:41,120 --> 01:20:46,080
Speaker 2: blad behavior, black bad behavior, and they downplay white bad behavior.

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01:20:46,320 --> 01:20:51,719
Speaker 2: Remember January sixth, Now, all those folks who went to jails,

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01:20:51,720 --> 01:20:55,559
Speaker 2: stormed the capitol, pretty much white. Trump partnered all of them.

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01:20:56,080 --> 01:21:00,720
Speaker 2: But the week it didn't blame the parents or or

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01:21:01,680 --> 01:21:04,679
Speaker 2: they blamed the folks that got arrested and went to jail.

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01:21:05,240 --> 01:21:09,639
Speaker 2: Where Charlottesville When they were saying Jews will not replace us.

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01:21:09,720 --> 01:21:13,360
Speaker 2: They were white. The media downplayed that, you know, they

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01:21:13,360 --> 01:21:17,160
Speaker 2: didn't say, well, let's have a forum and get the

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01:21:17,200 --> 01:21:22,040
Speaker 2: cops on and talk about the bad behavior of Charlottesville

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01:21:22,120 --> 01:21:26,000
Speaker 2: in January sixth. But let me ask Scotty a question. Now,

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01:21:26,640 --> 01:21:30,200
Speaker 2: most of the time when it comes to you, they

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01:21:30,320 --> 01:21:34,679
Speaker 2: interact with social media, you know, and I'm wondering when

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01:21:34,720 --> 01:21:38,320
Speaker 2: it comes to the police, are they monitoring social media?

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01:21:38,400 --> 01:21:41,559
Speaker 2: Is there like an intelligence to say, hey, something is

1425
01:21:41,560 --> 01:21:44,760
Speaker 2: about to go down because everybody's getting worried that this

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01:21:44,800 --> 01:21:47,519
Speaker 2: is where these meetings are going to take place. Didn't

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01:21:47,560 --> 01:21:50,479
Speaker 2: have to be what happened yesterday at just certain places

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01:21:50,520 --> 01:21:55,000
Speaker 2: where where kids gathering and you know, something's about to

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01:21:55,000 --> 01:21:58,639
Speaker 2: go down. So, Scotty, is there like an intelligence section

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01:21:58,720 --> 01:22:02,880
Speaker 2: where the cops are monitoring, uh you know with these

1431
01:22:02,960 --> 01:22:05,439
Speaker 2: you where the US are going knowing that something may

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01:22:05,439 --> 01:22:05,960
Speaker 2: come down.

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Speaker 5: Uh yeah, yeah, ray you that's a great question.

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Speaker 11: Yes, Uh, there is an intelligence section that does monitor

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01:22:14,520 --> 01:22:21,320
Speaker 11: social media. Unfortunately staffing, but we do have intel in place.

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Speaker 11: We there have been things that I really can't really

1437
01:22:25,200 --> 01:22:28,439
Speaker 11: talk about that have been squashed as a result of monitoring,

1438
01:22:28,680 --> 01:22:34,920
Speaker 11: monitoring social media. So yeah, that's an ongoing thing. It's

1439
01:22:35,000 --> 01:22:41,360
Speaker 11: consistently being monitored. The that that attempted street takeover a

1440
01:22:41,360 --> 01:22:44,000
Speaker 11: couple of weeks ago, that was a direct result of

1441
01:22:44,040 --> 01:22:47,639
Speaker 11: the police being prepared based on what was happening on

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01:22:47,760 --> 01:22:51,519
Speaker 11: social media to squash it before they did hundreds of

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01:22:51,560 --> 01:22:54,280
Speaker 11: thousands of dollars worth of damage to our roads.

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Speaker 5: So absolutely ray that is done on a consistent basis.

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Speaker 9: It did.

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01:22:58,800 --> 01:23:02,960
Speaker 2: Kevin. One last thing, you remember, there was a right

1447
01:23:03,000 --> 01:23:05,839
Speaker 2: after that that I think they blew that out of proportion,

1448
01:23:06,040 --> 01:23:09,799
Speaker 2: the brawl, because right after that there were white folks

1449
01:23:09,800 --> 01:23:12,840
Speaker 2: fighting on the banks and that got downplay. You didn't

1450
01:23:12,840 --> 01:23:14,599
Speaker 2: hear anything about that. You didn't even know what happened

1451
01:23:14,640 --> 01:23:17,320
Speaker 2: to those folks. I remember Glen Information used to say

1452
01:23:17,640 --> 01:23:20,759
Speaker 2: there are fights, white fights all up and down in Mason,

1453
01:23:21,320 --> 01:23:23,519
Speaker 2: but you never hear of it on TV. So when

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01:23:23,520 --> 01:23:26,559
Speaker 2: Iras says the media has a big part to play,

1455
01:23:26,960 --> 01:23:30,640
Speaker 2: they do. They hype black bad behavior and they downplay

1456
01:23:30,800 --> 01:23:34,599
Speaker 2: white white bad behavior. We're only twenty fifteen to twelve

1457
01:23:34,680 --> 01:23:37,400
Speaker 2: to fifteen percent of the population right when it comes

1458
01:23:37,439 --> 01:23:41,840
Speaker 2: to black Now, black crime is looked at differently than

1459
01:23:41,920 --> 01:23:45,679
Speaker 2: white crime, and that's something that has to be talked

1460
01:23:45,720 --> 01:23:48,600
Speaker 2: about too, So that's my opinion. I'm sticking to it.

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Speaker 4: Thanks all right, Ray, thank you, thank you for your

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01:23:50,560 --> 01:23:51,800
Speaker 4: paces appreciated call.

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Speaker 6: Brother.

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01:23:52,479 --> 01:23:54,040
Speaker 4: All right, we're going to try to get in another

1465
01:23:54,080 --> 01:23:56,519
Speaker 4: call here before the break. We got cam who's been

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01:23:56,560 --> 01:23:57,200
Speaker 4: waiting on hold?

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01:23:57,280 --> 01:23:58,639
Speaker 6: Cam? What's going on? Brother?

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01:24:00,240 --> 01:24:03,280
Speaker 15: I am will How are y'all doing?

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01:24:03,400 --> 01:24:04,599
Speaker 6: Thank you for being patient.

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01:24:05,880 --> 01:24:08,920
Speaker 15: Ain't no problem. This is a very very important conversation.

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01:24:09,120 --> 01:24:12,280
Speaker 15: So I understand happened to wait and being patient. I'm

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01:24:12,800 --> 01:24:17,719
Speaker 15: really enjoying hearing all the different perspectives. Thompson member Scottie Johnson.

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01:24:17,760 --> 01:24:18,599
Speaker 9: I stand with you.

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01:24:19,400 --> 01:24:23,000
Speaker 15: I take offense to, you know, some of these talking

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01:24:23,040 --> 01:24:26,360
Speaker 15: points about suggesting that the city is southunk crime. You know,

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01:24:27,479 --> 01:24:30,040
Speaker 15: y'all are doing y'all part in this. This is this is,

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01:24:30,760 --> 01:24:33,840
Speaker 15: there is a This is a big puzzle piece and

1478
01:24:33,880 --> 01:24:36,479
Speaker 15: everybody's got to put their pieces on the puzzle.

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01:24:37,240 --> 01:24:37,320
Speaker 11: Uh.

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01:24:37,520 --> 01:24:40,600
Speaker 15: My little portion of this puzzle piece has to do

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01:24:40,960 --> 01:24:45,960
Speaker 15: with the narrative around the free buses yesterday for opening day.

1482
01:24:46,320 --> 01:24:50,840
Speaker 15: I take great offense to folks suggesting that the free

1483
01:24:50,840 --> 01:24:53,920
Speaker 15: fairs and things like that are the reasons that these

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01:24:53,960 --> 01:24:57,200
Speaker 15: youth got downtown. Some of them probably did take the bus,

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01:24:57,200 --> 01:25:00,240
Speaker 15: not gonna lie, some of them did. But fair have

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01:25:00,280 --> 01:25:02,400
Speaker 15: been free on opening day for ten years that I

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01:25:02,439 --> 01:25:05,920
Speaker 15: could find at least, and so we have not had

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01:25:05,960 --> 01:25:08,679
Speaker 15: these sort of issues every single time that the fairs

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01:25:08,720 --> 01:25:11,920
Speaker 15: are free. So I take a fence when bus riders

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01:25:11,920 --> 01:25:14,120
Speaker 15: get put in the cross heirs of this. I rode

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Speaker 15: the bus a lot yesterday. Most of the people that

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01:25:16,160 --> 01:25:17,719
Speaker 15: was riding the bus were going.

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Speaker 14: To them from work.

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01:25:18,240 --> 01:25:19,840
Speaker 15: They did not have a luxury of most of.

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01:25:19,840 --> 01:25:20,760
Speaker 2: Us that had the day off.

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Speaker 15: They were going to them from work. And so I'm

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01:25:23,360 --> 01:25:25,599
Speaker 15: concerned that when you put people in the cross heres

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01:25:25,640 --> 01:25:29,040
Speaker 15: who really have nothing to do with this, you disenfranchise them,

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01:25:29,240 --> 01:25:33,519
Speaker 15: you hurt them. We are, you know, on fire in

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Speaker 15: terms of advancing and expanding our public transportation system, and

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Speaker 15: I think that these typles sort of talking points hurt that,

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Speaker 15: you know what I mean. And so that is what

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Speaker 15: I was waiting to say. I just really take a

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Speaker 15: fence to, you know, the free of the buses. I'm

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01:25:49,600 --> 01:25:52,080
Speaker 15: just continuing to hear that, oh, busses for free, and

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Speaker 15: that contributed to this, and I disagree with that strongly,

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Speaker 15: and I'll go I'll let you guys talk about that.

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Speaker 4: All right, great point, thank you, Yes, Scotty, that's a

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Speaker 4: that's a good point, because you know, one of my criticisms,

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Speaker 4: and I've written about this a few times in columns

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Speaker 4: of City Council since the brawl, is this tendency to

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01:26:11,960 --> 01:26:17,040
Speaker 4: sort of overreact and just sort of throw spaghetti against

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Speaker 4: the wall and se see what sticks to try to

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Speaker 4: fix problems. And I think what Cam is highlighting is

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Speaker 4: a concern that when people bring up things like that,

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Speaker 4: like free fare on the bus, is like that becomes

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Speaker 4: a target that politicians and whatnot try to use to

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Speaker 4: to either stigmatize certain groups or or or affect certain

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Speaker 4: entities in this city. And so as a as a

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Speaker 4: city council person, how do you how do you see that?

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Speaker 4: How do you guard against it? And you know, do

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01:26:49,760 --> 01:26:52,000
Speaker 4: you worry about you know that sort of knee jerk

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Speaker 4: reaction to.

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Speaker 11: See and and you've said it right there, Kevin, the

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01:26:55,760 --> 01:26:59,040
Speaker 11: knee jerk reaction gets us in more trouble. Think about

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01:26:59,080 --> 01:27:03,920
Speaker 11: this when after the brawl, counsel not myself, agreed to

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Speaker 11: give five point four million dollars to the Cincinnati Police

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01:27:07,600 --> 01:27:12,320
Speaker 11: Department and the chief only asked for half a million. Now,

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Speaker 11: when you talk about just throwing money away once again

1530
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Speaker 11: the symphony, that fiasco that five of my colleagues jumped

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Speaker 11: on and gave eight million dollars. So the knee jerk,

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Speaker 11: I'm going where you need me to go. The knee

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Speaker 11: jerk reaction a lot of times is overkilled, and unfortunately

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01:27:32,600 --> 01:27:35,839
Speaker 11: politicians want to make it look like they're doing something,

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01:27:37,240 --> 01:27:39,640
Speaker 11: so we take money that we don't have when we

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01:27:39,680 --> 01:27:43,000
Speaker 11: throw money at it. But Kevin, everybody that sits on

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Speaker 11: that day I talks about two things over and over again,

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Speaker 11: don't they Safety in housing, Safety in housing. So the ridiculous,

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Speaker 11: irresponsible thing that was done two weeks ago, was it

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Speaker 11: last week or two weeks ago? With the housing with

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01:27:59,360 --> 01:28:03,040
Speaker 11: the eight going to the symphony, that's messing with three

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Speaker 11: hundred units possibly in Avondale housing?

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Speaker 6: Right? Hold, that's all Scott it. We don't take a

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Speaker 6: quick break. You still got time, I got, I got

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Speaker 6: I'll go you the next year.

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Speaker 4: Let me know when you got to go, because there

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Speaker 4: are a couple of other things I want to touch

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Speaker 4: on here with you.

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Speaker 6: So we're gonna take a quick break.

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Speaker 4: When we come back, we'll spend five or ten more

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01:28:21,720 --> 01:28:24,120
Speaker 4: minutes with counselor of John's, and get a few more

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01:28:24,160 --> 01:28:26,080
Speaker 4: calls in, and then we're going to give you an

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Speaker 4: opportunity to take us home. Here in the final hour

1554
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Speaker 4: of The Lincoln Ware Show, twelve thirty WDBZ