1 00:00:05,160 --> 00:00:09,080 Speaker 1: Line from ball Hartbeiner and the Crossroads of America. 2 00:00:10,520 --> 00:00:11,560 Speaker 2: It's Tony Katz. 3 00:00:11,640 --> 00:00:22,960 Speaker 1: Today, the aircraft carrier Abraham Lincoln is making its way 4 00:00:23,640 --> 00:00:27,159 Speaker 1: to the Middle East right now from out of the 5 00:00:27,240 --> 00:00:28,440 Speaker 1: South China Sea. 6 00:00:31,400 --> 00:00:33,680 Speaker 3: I would hard I would be hard pressed to think 7 00:00:33,720 --> 00:00:40,800 Speaker 3: that there's anyone who would believe that just because the 8 00:00:40,840 --> 00:00:42,960 Speaker 3: Iranian regime has said, you know what, we're not going 9 00:00:43,040 --> 00:00:46,840 Speaker 3: to kill the protesters, that they're not going to kill 10 00:00:46,840 --> 00:00:52,519 Speaker 3: the protesters. You'd have to be insane to believe that. Well, 11 00:00:52,560 --> 00:00:56,080 Speaker 3: President Trump said it. President Trump said they agreed not 12 00:00:56,160 --> 00:00:59,080 Speaker 3: to kill the protesters. And that's that's really important because 13 00:00:59,080 --> 00:01:02,720 Speaker 3: for President Trump said, well it must be true. 14 00:01:02,800 --> 00:01:04,520 Speaker 2: Whoa whoa, whoa, whoa whoa? 15 00:01:04,600 --> 00:01:08,559 Speaker 3: Have we learned nothing? This isn't attack on Donald Trump 16 00:01:08,560 --> 00:01:11,440 Speaker 3: in the slightest. This is the recognition that there's a 17 00:01:11,480 --> 00:01:14,319 Speaker 3: big difference between what the president says and what the 18 00:01:14,360 --> 00:01:15,360 Speaker 3: president does. 19 00:01:16,000 --> 00:01:17,920 Speaker 2: This was from the White House just yesterday. 20 00:01:19,280 --> 00:01:22,880 Speaker 4: Did we have some other little things to talk about? 21 00:01:24,360 --> 00:01:25,480 Speaker 2: Maybe we'll start that first. 22 00:01:25,520 --> 00:01:26,520 Speaker 4: Should I start that first? 23 00:01:26,560 --> 00:01:27,560 Speaker 5: I think they're gonna want me to. 24 00:01:27,640 --> 00:01:30,520 Speaker 4: I have a feeling that they want me to. Have 25 00:01:32,560 --> 00:01:35,880 Speaker 4: been notified and pretty strongly. But we'll find out what 26 00:01:35,920 --> 00:01:36,679 Speaker 4: that aill means. 27 00:01:36,720 --> 00:01:42,480 Speaker 5: But we've been told that the killing interrant is stopping, 28 00:01:42,560 --> 00:01:46,760 Speaker 5: and it's stopped and stopping, and there's no plan for 29 00:01:46,840 --> 00:01:51,600 Speaker 5: executions or an execution or executions. So I've been told 30 00:01:51,600 --> 00:01:54,440 Speaker 5: that a good authority we'll find out about it. I'm 31 00:01:54,480 --> 00:01:59,320 Speaker 5: sure if happens, will all be very upset, including you, 32 00:01:59,400 --> 00:02:03,200 Speaker 5: will be are upset. But that's just gotten to me 33 00:02:03,800 --> 00:02:08,880 Speaker 5: some information at the killing is stuffed, that the executions 34 00:02:08,880 --> 00:02:13,000 Speaker 5: have stopped, not going to have an execution, which we're 35 00:02:13,000 --> 00:02:14,480 Speaker 5: talking about for the last couple of days. 36 00:02:14,520 --> 00:02:15,240 Speaker 4: Today was going to be. 37 00:02:15,360 --> 00:02:18,160 Speaker 3: It was Caitlyn Collins who then asked the question, well 38 00:02:18,639 --> 00:02:19,760 Speaker 3: do you believe them? 39 00:02:20,160 --> 00:02:20,200 Speaker 4: What? 40 00:02:21,040 --> 00:02:23,280 Speaker 2: What do you mean? Do I believe them? Why would 41 00:02:23,320 --> 00:02:27,359 Speaker 2: anybody anywhere believe them? Tony Katz, Tony Katz today, good 42 00:02:27,360 --> 00:02:27,760 Speaker 2: to be with you. 43 00:02:27,840 --> 00:02:33,280 Speaker 3: I forgot to say hello. Sometimes I forget. The President 44 00:02:33,320 --> 00:02:39,280 Speaker 3: will very often in his theories and philosophy is about leverage. 45 00:02:40,120 --> 00:02:46,560 Speaker 6: In his want to talk, will say things and then 46 00:02:46,639 --> 00:02:52,120 Speaker 6: will utilize the following expression good right, they're doing good things. 47 00:02:52,440 --> 00:02:55,359 Speaker 2: You know what. I've got a great relationship with them, 48 00:02:55,560 --> 00:02:55,920 Speaker 2: you know what. 49 00:02:56,000 --> 00:03:00,000 Speaker 3: I really appreciate that he said that of the Vice 50 00:03:00,160 --> 00:03:10,040 Speaker 3: presidents of Venezuela. She sold us the oil here here 51 00:03:10,240 --> 00:03:13,320 Speaker 3: was you know, she she got us the oil of 52 00:03:13,440 --> 00:03:17,000 Speaker 3: fifty a million barrels of oil. You know, she's just 53 00:03:17,200 --> 00:03:18,840 Speaker 3: she's just terrific. 54 00:03:19,120 --> 00:03:20,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, it all works out. 55 00:03:20,480 --> 00:03:21,840 Speaker 4: I think something will work at. 56 00:03:21,800 --> 00:03:26,960 Speaker 5: Yeahel Cabello, the de facto number two in Venezuela right now, 57 00:03:27,040 --> 00:03:31,120 Speaker 5: he seems pretty reluctant to work with the US, and obviously. 58 00:03:30,760 --> 00:03:34,960 Speaker 4: He They just gave us fifty million barrels. 59 00:03:34,639 --> 00:03:37,600 Speaker 2: Of the number two Venezuela security. You know, I know 60 00:03:37,640 --> 00:03:38,320 Speaker 2: the number one. 61 00:03:38,600 --> 00:03:40,560 Speaker 4: We just had a great conversation today. 62 00:03:41,200 --> 00:03:42,640 Speaker 2: And she's a terrific person. 63 00:03:42,720 --> 00:03:45,119 Speaker 4: I mean, she's somebody that we've worked with very well. 64 00:03:45,160 --> 00:03:47,680 Speaker 4: Marco Rubios dealywood, I dealt with her this morning. 65 00:03:48,160 --> 00:03:52,240 Speaker 3: She's not a terrific person, she's awful. She's part of 66 00:03:52,240 --> 00:03:56,680 Speaker 3: the Maduro regime. There's absolutely no difference in her running 67 00:03:56,720 --> 00:03:58,400 Speaker 3: the country or Maduro running the country. 68 00:03:58,480 --> 00:04:03,160 Speaker 2: None. She's a great person. But what do you want 69 00:04:03,160 --> 00:04:07,080 Speaker 2: the man to say? What do you want him to say? 70 00:04:07,920 --> 00:04:12,200 Speaker 3: Oh, oh, that's Eelsey Rodriguez. She's a low life comeback. 71 00:04:12,560 --> 00:04:16,520 Speaker 3: You know her mom's a skank. Oh my gosh, I 72 00:04:16,560 --> 00:04:20,160 Speaker 3: heard she's got three or four different sexually transmitted diseases. 73 00:04:20,800 --> 00:04:23,279 Speaker 3: And she does a really good job or a really 74 00:04:23,360 --> 00:04:26,599 Speaker 3: terrible job playing maaj On Like she's just what in 75 00:04:26,680 --> 00:04:32,359 Speaker 3: the world do you want the man to say? 76 00:04:32,360 --> 00:04:34,400 Speaker 2: This is just part of his affect. 77 00:04:33,960 --> 00:04:35,720 Speaker 3: This is just part of his style, and I can 78 00:04:35,760 --> 00:04:41,680 Speaker 3: appreciate that it drives some people batty. No one should 79 00:04:41,720 --> 00:04:45,480 Speaker 3: trust that the Iranians aren't killing people right now. 80 00:04:46,800 --> 00:04:50,480 Speaker 2: People should trust that there is movement afoot. 81 00:04:51,680 --> 00:04:56,800 Speaker 3: You have the USS Abraham Lincoln making its way. You have, 82 00:04:57,080 --> 00:05:02,120 Speaker 3: according to multiple sources, air traffic diverting itself around Iran. 83 00:05:02,520 --> 00:05:05,279 Speaker 2: You had the Chinese landing planes in Tehran. 84 00:05:06,360 --> 00:05:09,920 Speaker 3: Were they there to grab some hardware? Were they there 85 00:05:09,920 --> 00:05:13,880 Speaker 3: to drop some hardware off? Were they there to get 86 00:05:13,920 --> 00:05:20,040 Speaker 3: their people extract them? Is it possible the iotolin went 87 00:05:20,160 --> 00:05:23,320 Speaker 3: with them. I would think it would be a weird 88 00:05:23,480 --> 00:05:29,400 Speaker 3: move for China to take in the iotolin. I would 89 00:05:29,440 --> 00:05:36,440 Speaker 3: think that to be a very provocative, provocative measure. But 90 00:05:36,680 --> 00:05:41,719 Speaker 3: everybody is gearing up, everybody is getting ready for what 91 00:05:42,040 --> 00:05:45,040 Speaker 3: is coming next. And now, in the breaking news of 92 00:05:45,120 --> 00:05:50,960 Speaker 3: the morning, you had the Administration announcing announcing additional sanctions 93 00:05:51,440 --> 00:05:56,600 Speaker 3: against Iranian officials, the Secretary of a Rand Supreme Council 94 00:05:56,680 --> 00:06:03,080 Speaker 3: for National Security naming eighteen people. Entity is accused of 95 00:06:03,320 --> 00:06:11,840 Speaker 3: money laundering of Iranian oil sales to foreign markets. The 96 00:06:11,880 --> 00:06:16,400 Speaker 3: objective is to put more of a squeeze on. More 97 00:06:16,440 --> 00:06:20,640 Speaker 3: of a squeeze does not lead to Okay, we'll treat 98 00:06:20,680 --> 00:06:28,880 Speaker 3: the protesters nicer. One of the things to watch here 99 00:06:28,920 --> 00:06:32,200 Speaker 3: is to ask yourself, is this the end of the 100 00:06:32,240 --> 00:06:40,800 Speaker 3: regime at all? President Trump, when talking about Venezuela, created 101 00:06:40,800 --> 00:06:43,920 Speaker 3: a bothersome moment for people, and we discussed it here 102 00:06:43,960 --> 00:06:48,120 Speaker 3: on the show. Not in the taking of Maduro Fine, 103 00:06:48,320 --> 00:06:52,920 Speaker 3: no issue, no problem. People called that regime change. And 104 00:06:52,960 --> 00:06:56,560 Speaker 3: what we discussed here was if the rest of the 105 00:06:56,600 --> 00:07:00,680 Speaker 3: people remain like the Vice president Delsea Rodriguez, it's not 106 00:07:00,760 --> 00:07:07,760 Speaker 3: regime change, it's a different outfit. It's the same person. 107 00:07:08,880 --> 00:07:14,160 Speaker 3: It's the same attitude, same philosophy. In order for the 108 00:07:14,200 --> 00:07:19,080 Speaker 3: Venezuelan people to really have in a better opportunity, you 109 00:07:19,240 --> 00:07:31,080 Speaker 3: need this group of Kammie authoritarians gone, that's what you need. 110 00:07:32,480 --> 00:07:35,480 Speaker 3: And so we should be asking ourselves should we be 111 00:07:35,600 --> 00:07:40,480 Speaker 3: assisting in that process. Well, if we are to believe 112 00:07:41,600 --> 00:07:44,320 Speaker 3: in the value of the Monroe Doctrine that the Western 113 00:07:44,320 --> 00:07:47,480 Speaker 3: Hemisphere belongs to the United States and we will not allow, 114 00:07:47,480 --> 00:07:51,320 Speaker 3: as the Monroe Doctrine did, European influence into the hemisphere, 115 00:07:51,520 --> 00:07:54,400 Speaker 3: we in today's world will not allow Chinese or Russian 116 00:07:54,920 --> 00:07:59,440 Speaker 3: influence into the hemisphere. Well, then the Maduro regime has 117 00:07:59,520 --> 00:08:03,320 Speaker 3: to go in full for the sake of the US 118 00:08:03,640 --> 00:08:09,080 Speaker 3: and its national So let me say it again, because 119 00:08:09,400 --> 00:08:12,480 Speaker 3: I see the comments and the comments in the chat 120 00:08:12,560 --> 00:08:16,360 Speaker 3: room there is it's not our job. I'm saying, maybe 121 00:08:16,400 --> 00:08:18,840 Speaker 3: it is, And maybe it's President Trump who made it 122 00:08:18,880 --> 00:08:21,400 Speaker 3: our job by saying that we are going to be 123 00:08:21,400 --> 00:08:24,240 Speaker 3: bringing back the Monroe Doctrine and referring to it as 124 00:08:24,240 --> 00:08:28,120 Speaker 3: the Trump doctrine or the Donro doctrine, however you want. 125 00:08:27,960 --> 00:08:28,680 Speaker 2: To describe that. 126 00:08:31,080 --> 00:08:36,760 Speaker 3: But if indeed the Monroe Doctrine, which it does, states 127 00:08:36,880 --> 00:08:41,120 Speaker 3: that we will thwart European influence in the Western hemisphere, 128 00:08:41,920 --> 00:08:44,160 Speaker 3: and we are applying it to today. 129 00:08:45,320 --> 00:08:49,800 Speaker 2: Then we need to be people who ask what that means. 130 00:08:50,520 --> 00:08:52,600 Speaker 2: And what I believe it means. 131 00:08:52,240 --> 00:08:56,560 Speaker 3: If I extrapolate it out, is that the Maduro regime 132 00:08:56,600 --> 00:09:04,000 Speaker 3: can't remain. It can't remain. Why is the President of 133 00:09:04,000 --> 00:09:10,360 Speaker 3: the United States getting involved in discussing how Iran is 134 00:09:10,400 --> 00:09:15,640 Speaker 3: treating protesters. Now, that's a very Tucker Carlson kind of question. 135 00:09:15,720 --> 00:09:20,360 Speaker 3: I ask it as to set up the conversation. It 136 00:09:20,440 --> 00:09:24,160 Speaker 3: is obvious that we are getting involved because there is 137 00:09:24,200 --> 00:09:26,520 Speaker 3: a recognition that. 138 00:09:26,600 --> 00:09:30,080 Speaker 2: A free Iran, an Iran that is not run. 139 00:09:29,880 --> 00:09:32,760 Speaker 3: By the Ayatola, by the Mullahs, by the hardliners, by 140 00:09:32,800 --> 00:09:37,160 Speaker 3: the clerics, is an Iran that no longer is trying 141 00:09:37,200 --> 00:09:41,320 Speaker 3: to engage any level of hegemony. It is an Iran 142 00:09:41,360 --> 00:09:45,200 Speaker 3: that is no longer funding terrorist outfits and organizations that 143 00:09:45,280 --> 00:09:49,280 Speaker 3: are not only a problem to Israel but to all 144 00:09:49,480 --> 00:09:53,839 Speaker 3: other nations because they can no longer engage peacefully. They're 145 00:09:53,960 --> 00:09:58,520 Speaker 3: forced into these fights and forced into these sides for 146 00:09:58,600 --> 00:10:00,880 Speaker 3: fear of what the Iranian regime might do. 147 00:10:04,000 --> 00:10:05,679 Speaker 2: The problem is Iran. 148 00:10:06,760 --> 00:10:10,160 Speaker 3: It is the opposite of what the Obama administration thought, 149 00:10:10,360 --> 00:10:13,080 Speaker 3: whether it be Barack Obama himself or some of his 150 00:10:13,200 --> 00:10:16,120 Speaker 3: top lackeys like Ben Rhoades, who have the audacity to 151 00:10:16,160 --> 00:10:18,040 Speaker 3: talk about the Middle East now like he knows what 152 00:10:18,080 --> 00:10:21,560 Speaker 3: he's talking about. Oh, you can tell me all the 153 00:10:21,559 --> 00:10:24,280 Speaker 3: study he has done. He couldn't take me on in 154 00:10:24,320 --> 00:10:28,760 Speaker 3: the debate. I talk into a microphone and I smoke 155 00:10:28,840 --> 00:10:31,559 Speaker 3: cigars all day. He's got no shot. 156 00:10:32,640 --> 00:10:34,280 Speaker 2: All right, maybe I do a little bit more than that, 157 00:10:34,440 --> 00:10:37,000 Speaker 2: but still being self deprecated. 158 00:10:39,640 --> 00:10:45,080 Speaker 3: We're getting involved because it is clearly in America's interest 159 00:10:45,480 --> 00:10:50,559 Speaker 3: for Iran not to be through the Ayahtola a hegemonic power. 160 00:10:50,720 --> 00:10:52,920 Speaker 2: Now that doesn't mean we're still not gonna have other issues. 161 00:10:53,960 --> 00:10:57,360 Speaker 3: We have clearly made a case for our relationship with 162 00:10:57,360 --> 00:11:00,560 Speaker 3: Saudi Arabia. We can't go back in time and treat 163 00:11:00,600 --> 00:11:03,160 Speaker 3: them the way they need to be treated. For September eleventh, 164 00:11:03,280 --> 00:11:03,959 Speaker 3: we live in the now. 165 00:11:05,480 --> 00:11:07,000 Speaker 2: We have the. 166 00:11:06,920 --> 00:11:12,840 Speaker 3: Ever eastward looking Turks under President Erdowan. This was a 167 00:11:12,920 --> 00:11:16,160 Speaker 3: mussle nation, but western looking, a member of NATO and 168 00:11:16,240 --> 00:11:18,640 Speaker 3: a thriving, thriving society. 169 00:11:19,840 --> 00:11:20,760 Speaker 2: Bring in Air Towan. 170 00:11:21,040 --> 00:11:23,960 Speaker 3: It has become more militant, it has become more Islamic, 171 00:11:24,200 --> 00:11:26,920 Speaker 3: it has become more dangerous. This was a nation that 172 00:11:27,040 --> 00:11:28,760 Speaker 3: was working with US to build the F thirty five 173 00:11:28,800 --> 00:11:31,880 Speaker 3: strike fighter and then purchase the SU four hundred missile 174 00:11:31,920 --> 00:11:35,000 Speaker 3: defense system from Russia, which is meant to be the 175 00:11:35,040 --> 00:11:36,720 Speaker 3: what F thirty five killer? 176 00:11:38,640 --> 00:11:40,679 Speaker 2: Now, I think we've kind of. 177 00:11:40,679 --> 00:11:43,760 Speaker 3: Proven that the SU four hundred isn't actually as good 178 00:11:43,800 --> 00:11:47,680 Speaker 3: a defense system as we were sold on, and the 179 00:11:47,720 --> 00:11:51,320 Speaker 3: Russian military can't actually do everything the Russian military said 180 00:11:51,360 --> 00:11:54,280 Speaker 3: that it could do. It does have capabilities, it has 181 00:11:54,360 --> 00:11:59,599 Speaker 3: nuclear weapons, it has hypersonics. But when you have a 182 00:11:59,679 --> 00:12:05,200 Speaker 3: native nation buying defense systems from the Russians, recognizing that 183 00:12:05,280 --> 00:12:08,199 Speaker 3: NATO is set up to deal with the Russian threat, 184 00:12:10,920 --> 00:12:15,960 Speaker 3: Turkey becomes a problem, and they may want to be 185 00:12:17,120 --> 00:12:21,440 Speaker 3: that power or extending their power through Syria and other places. 186 00:12:24,480 --> 00:12:25,400 Speaker 2: You may then have. 187 00:12:25,320 --> 00:12:28,359 Speaker 3: To deal with the battle between the Turks and the Saudis. 188 00:12:28,600 --> 00:12:31,640 Speaker 3: You may have other players that want to come up 189 00:12:31,840 --> 00:12:33,120 Speaker 3: and prop themselves up. 190 00:12:34,320 --> 00:12:38,120 Speaker 2: But you cannot fix everything. You cannot solve every problem. 191 00:12:38,240 --> 00:12:39,760 Speaker 2: Well you can if you can stay out of it. 192 00:12:40,200 --> 00:12:44,160 Speaker 3: No, you're not gonna stay out of it, because Iran 193 00:12:44,240 --> 00:12:45,160 Speaker 3: doesn't stay out of it. 194 00:12:45,360 --> 00:12:47,000 Speaker 2: If this regime is still in power. 195 00:12:47,280 --> 00:12:50,800 Speaker 3: And by saying if you kill the protesters, we're coming 196 00:12:50,840 --> 00:12:54,200 Speaker 3: for you, if you tell the protesters help is on 197 00:12:54,280 --> 00:12:58,160 Speaker 3: its way, you actually have to bring the help. So 198 00:12:58,320 --> 00:13:00,640 Speaker 3: you may argue that chump is not going to get 199 00:13:00,720 --> 00:13:02,960 Speaker 3: us in another war. I don't actually think it will 200 00:13:03,000 --> 00:13:05,520 Speaker 3: be a war. I think he's gonna utilize what's already 201 00:13:05,559 --> 00:13:08,760 Speaker 3: happening on the grounds and just kind of nudget along. 202 00:13:09,080 --> 00:13:11,839 Speaker 3: Give it a little, give a little give, a little push, 203 00:13:12,240 --> 00:13:15,160 Speaker 3: a little shove, a little Ay, there you go. 204 00:13:15,840 --> 00:13:19,240 Speaker 2: And off the diving board you go. Oh, look at that, 205 00:13:19,280 --> 00:13:20,320 Speaker 2: you could swim, Tommy. 206 00:13:20,480 --> 00:13:26,240 Speaker 3: Good for you, because there's a chance to completely reset 207 00:13:26,280 --> 00:13:31,080 Speaker 3: the Middle East here. There's a large chance. Well I 208 00:13:31,120 --> 00:13:35,719 Speaker 3: discussed some of the issues. There's also opportunity Iran, as 209 00:13:35,720 --> 00:13:44,400 Speaker 3: a signator of the Abraham Accords, changes much, and we should. 210 00:13:44,200 --> 00:13:45,280 Speaker 2: Be in favor of this. 211 00:13:49,400 --> 00:13:54,920 Speaker 3: We there the the the opportunities here are great. There 212 00:13:54,960 --> 00:13:59,000 Speaker 3: is no guarantee to them. And the idea of well 213 00:13:59,040 --> 00:14:02,040 Speaker 3: we shouldn't be involved at all, people can say it, 214 00:14:03,000 --> 00:14:08,199 Speaker 3: But here we are. President Trump made us involved. Help 215 00:14:08,320 --> 00:14:12,439 Speaker 3: is on its way. If you killed protesters, were coming 216 00:14:12,480 --> 00:14:16,840 Speaker 3: after you, more sanctions, the sending of the USS Abraham Lincoln. 217 00:14:18,640 --> 00:14:21,520 Speaker 3: I am more and more a believer that if there 218 00:14:21,640 --> 00:14:25,320 Speaker 3: is any kinetic strike, it's going to come from the Israelis. 219 00:14:27,440 --> 00:14:28,680 Speaker 2: It could come from the. 220 00:14:28,680 --> 00:14:31,080 Speaker 3: US on from the F thirty five fighters that we 221 00:14:31,120 --> 00:14:32,800 Speaker 3: have sold to Saudi Arabia. 222 00:14:32,800 --> 00:14:34,520 Speaker 2: I don't know if those have been delivered yet or not. 223 00:14:35,760 --> 00:14:39,560 Speaker 3: I think it comes from the Israelis, and I think 224 00:14:39,640 --> 00:14:44,320 Speaker 3: it's this show of force of who really favors of 225 00:14:44,360 --> 00:14:49,119 Speaker 3: free Iran and free people, and it resets them Middle East. 226 00:14:51,200 --> 00:14:54,040 Speaker 3: President Trump believe the Ayahtola that he's not going to 227 00:14:54,120 --> 00:14:57,080 Speaker 3: kill anybody. I don't believe President Trump believes that for 228 00:14:57,080 --> 00:15:01,960 Speaker 3: a second. I believe he says things because. 229 00:15:01,560 --> 00:15:04,600 Speaker 2: That's how he talks. That's how he talks. 230 00:15:05,280 --> 00:15:08,840 Speaker 3: I have seen him engage with people where he is 231 00:15:09,760 --> 00:15:12,640 Speaker 3: brutal and aggressive, and then the deal works out. He's like, oh, yeah, 232 00:15:12,680 --> 00:15:16,920 Speaker 3: they're great. Yeah, we had a disagreement, it's over. That's 233 00:15:17,120 --> 00:15:21,800 Speaker 3: how he operates. But if he operates like that and 234 00:15:21,880 --> 00:15:24,640 Speaker 3: allows the Ayatola to stick around because hey, he problems 235 00:15:24,680 --> 00:15:27,240 Speaker 3: not to kill anybody, Okay, this is over, it's a. 236 00:15:27,160 --> 00:15:28,360 Speaker 2: Disaster for him. 237 00:15:28,760 --> 00:15:31,440 Speaker 3: In some cases it's just his words, and in some cases 238 00:15:31,480 --> 00:15:34,160 Speaker 3: the situation is dictating. 239 00:15:33,720 --> 00:15:36,960 Speaker 2: And in the case of Iran, the situation is dictated. 240 00:15:38,480 --> 00:15:40,920 Speaker 2: I think in Venezuela, the same thing has to happen. 241 00:15:42,320 --> 00:15:44,720 Speaker 3: In order for the United States to be safe and 242 00:15:44,720 --> 00:15:47,880 Speaker 3: in order for him to say we follow the Monroe doctrine, 243 00:15:48,160 --> 00:15:51,160 Speaker 3: you must get rid of the Russian influence. That means 244 00:15:51,200 --> 00:15:54,760 Speaker 3: the Maduro regime must go. And don't get mad at 245 00:15:54,800 --> 00:15:57,680 Speaker 3: me and don't call me a warmonger. This is what 246 00:15:57,720 --> 00:16:01,120 Speaker 3: the president wants. I'm just playing it out to the end. 247 00:16:02,000 --> 00:16:04,640 Speaker 3: I'm Tony Katz and this is Tony Katz today to 248 00:16:04,800 --> 00:16:13,280 Speaker 3: vote on the War Powers Act. It was turned down. 249 00:16:14,200 --> 00:16:19,480 Speaker 3: It was Vice President Jade Vance who came in as 250 00:16:19,600 --> 00:16:26,360 Speaker 3: the tiebreaker blocking the Venezuela War Powers Resolution. Tony Katz, 251 00:16:26,880 --> 00:16:35,240 Speaker 3: Tony Katz Today. President Trump clearly able to get enough 252 00:16:35,280 --> 00:16:38,520 Speaker 3: Republicans on board to say, hey, let me just keep 253 00:16:38,560 --> 00:16:39,160 Speaker 3: doing what. 254 00:16:39,040 --> 00:16:40,040 Speaker 2: It is that I do. 255 00:16:40,200 --> 00:16:44,480 Speaker 3: Here it was five Republicans who had joined Democrats to 256 00:16:44,520 --> 00:16:51,640 Speaker 3: advance this resolution, this trying to stop President Trump from 257 00:16:51,680 --> 00:16:55,280 Speaker 3: being able to engage with Venezuela. Democrats have got it 258 00:16:55,360 --> 00:17:02,000 Speaker 3: into their head that somehow what Trump did was in 259 00:17:02,360 --> 00:17:03,640 Speaker 3: capturing Maduro was wrong. 260 00:17:04,320 --> 00:17:07,479 Speaker 2: It was not precedent is on his side. 261 00:17:07,600 --> 00:17:07,800 Speaker 4: Now. 262 00:17:07,840 --> 00:17:13,480 Speaker 3: I have stated and I do still say that if 263 00:17:13,520 --> 00:17:16,440 Speaker 3: the President wants to engage in a war action, that 264 00:17:16,560 --> 00:17:22,359 Speaker 3: the President wants to put troops on the ground, then 265 00:17:22,960 --> 00:17:24,399 Speaker 3: you'll see Congress. 266 00:17:24,000 --> 00:17:25,760 Speaker 2: Say woll wah wah, whah wha woah. 267 00:17:25,400 --> 00:17:29,760 Speaker 3: That's war, that's us, and they will get I think 268 00:17:29,840 --> 00:17:33,840 Speaker 3: aggressive that is different than whether or not you want 269 00:17:33,880 --> 00:17:36,880 Speaker 3: to thwart the president in the ability to do things 270 00:17:36,920 --> 00:17:41,480 Speaker 3: that were within the president's powers. And it should be 271 00:17:41,600 --> 00:17:47,680 Speaker 3: clear to everybody playing the home game that Democrats would 272 00:17:47,720 --> 00:17:52,479 Speaker 3: never vote to stop a Democratic president from doing this. 273 00:17:55,359 --> 00:17:58,040 Speaker 3: And there were a series of Republicans where like, well, whoa, 274 00:17:58,080 --> 00:17:58,520 Speaker 3: we got. 275 00:17:58,400 --> 00:18:00,280 Speaker 2: To slow this up. We need to keep our pawer. 276 00:18:02,119 --> 00:18:05,800 Speaker 2: And one of the people who flipped right, Josh Hawley flipped. 277 00:18:05,600 --> 00:18:07,639 Speaker 3: He was going to vote for it, and then he didn't. 278 00:18:08,160 --> 00:18:14,600 Speaker 3: Susan Collins, Murkowski uh and Rand Paul Uh. They all 279 00:18:14,680 --> 00:18:17,440 Speaker 3: I think those three stuck with their guns, and that's 280 00:18:17,440 --> 00:18:19,560 Speaker 3: how it got to fifty to fifty. The other person 281 00:18:19,600 --> 00:18:20,879 Speaker 3: who said he was going to vote for it and 282 00:18:20,880 --> 00:18:24,800 Speaker 3: flipped my senator, Senator Todd Young of Indiana, can I. 283 00:18:26,400 --> 00:18:33,240 Speaker 2: Yep. He's one of those senators where man, people. 284 00:18:33,200 --> 00:18:39,080 Speaker 3: Love to hate him, love to hate him. He has 285 00:18:39,160 --> 00:18:45,880 Speaker 3: done things that drive me crazy, drive me nuts. He 286 00:18:46,080 --> 00:18:49,639 Speaker 3: also and if we want to get a little inside baseball, 287 00:18:49,760 --> 00:18:52,080 Speaker 3: allow me. I'll give you my take from being a 288 00:18:52,080 --> 00:18:56,040 Speaker 3: guy who's in Indiana. He was never a Trump guy, 289 00:18:56,800 --> 00:18:57,879 Speaker 3: never a Trump guy. 290 00:18:58,520 --> 00:18:58,639 Speaker 5: Uh. 291 00:18:58,760 --> 00:19:00,720 Speaker 3: He was somebody who was un willing in the twenty 292 00:19:00,800 --> 00:19:03,159 Speaker 3: twenty election to work with a member of the House 293 00:19:03,200 --> 00:19:05,960 Speaker 3: to challenge the vote. He was very clear about that, 294 00:19:06,400 --> 00:19:09,199 Speaker 3: it's not there. I won't do it. It is my 295 00:19:09,440 --> 00:19:12,600 Speaker 3: take that team Trump hates that man with a passion. 296 00:19:14,000 --> 00:19:17,320 Speaker 3: And then Trump comes back and wins again. And what 297 00:19:17,600 --> 00:19:21,280 Speaker 3: I think Todd Young did is he said, that is 298 00:19:21,320 --> 00:19:23,800 Speaker 3: not my fight. I'm going to agree very loudly where 299 00:19:23,840 --> 00:19:26,120 Speaker 3: I can agree, and I'm going to stay silent elsewhere. 300 00:19:26,680 --> 00:19:27,439 Speaker 2: And that's what he's. 301 00:19:27,320 --> 00:19:31,399 Speaker 3: Done, trying to go under the radar. 302 00:19:32,200 --> 00:19:36,240 Speaker 2: Was this Trump pressure? Maybe presidential pressure happens all the time. 303 00:19:36,520 --> 00:19:37,399 Speaker 2: I'm Tony Katz. 304 00:19:37,560 --> 00:19:44,000 Speaker 3: Another big story out today, markwood Khalil, the anti American, 305 00:19:44,880 --> 00:19:48,280 Speaker 3: pro Palestinian, anti Semitic, bigoted protester. 306 00:19:48,480 --> 00:19:49,359 Speaker 2: Well that's my take. 307 00:19:49,440 --> 00:19:53,719 Speaker 3: You know, hey, everyone's allowed their their position, and that 308 00:19:53,800 --> 00:20:03,400 Speaker 3: one is mine. He was released from an immigration jail, remember, 309 00:20:03,520 --> 00:20:07,159 Speaker 3: and he comes out, I'm not scared of you, Donald Trump, 310 00:20:07,200 --> 00:20:08,400 Speaker 3: and and all. 311 00:20:08,440 --> 00:20:09,840 Speaker 2: The lefties are so happy. 312 00:20:09,920 --> 00:20:13,600 Speaker 3: This guy was organizing to intimidate Jewish students and others 313 00:20:13,600 --> 00:20:14,880 Speaker 3: at Columbian other places. 314 00:20:15,040 --> 00:20:16,760 Speaker 2: Tony Katz, Tony Katz. 315 00:20:16,760 --> 00:20:20,400 Speaker 3: Today guys were live streaming YouTube dot Com go to Tony 316 00:20:20,359 --> 00:20:23,199 Speaker 3: Katz and subscribe and be a part of it. The 317 00:20:23,200 --> 00:20:25,600 Speaker 3: show sheet will be up momentarily at Tony Katz dot 318 00:20:25,640 --> 00:20:26,280 Speaker 3: com as well. 319 00:20:27,920 --> 00:20:30,119 Speaker 2: He's the one who he's let out of jail in 320 00:20:30,160 --> 00:20:31,840 Speaker 2: their's representative of Cassio. 321 00:20:31,560 --> 00:20:35,480 Speaker 3: Cortes, who then has the audacity to talk about the 322 00:20:35,480 --> 00:20:36,840 Speaker 3: problem with anti Semitism. 323 00:20:36,960 --> 00:20:40,600 Speaker 2: She's a she's a delight. 324 00:20:44,480 --> 00:20:48,480 Speaker 3: A federal appeals court today reversing the lower court opinion 325 00:20:48,800 --> 00:20:54,359 Speaker 3: and a decision on his release. He could now be 326 00:20:54,520 --> 00:20:58,359 Speaker 3: detained again and deported three Judge Penne, although they could 327 00:20:58,359 --> 00:21:00,600 Speaker 3: go and bank and bring it to the whole circuit 328 00:21:01,359 --> 00:21:04,040 Speaker 3: three Judge Padl on the Third Circuit Court of Appeals. 329 00:21:04,680 --> 00:21:07,800 Speaker 3: They didn't rule on whether the Trump administration's effort to 330 00:21:07,840 --> 00:21:12,479 Speaker 3: throw him out of the country is unconstitutional. That was 331 00:21:12,560 --> 00:21:15,080 Speaker 3: not what they engaged in. But in a two to 332 00:21:15,160 --> 00:21:18,399 Speaker 3: one decision they said that a federal judge in New 333 00:21:18,480 --> 00:21:21,840 Speaker 3: Jersey didn't have jurisdiction to decide the matter. 334 00:21:21,880 --> 00:21:22,679 Speaker 2: At this time. 335 00:21:24,480 --> 00:21:26,880 Speaker 3: What has to happen is that this has to move 336 00:21:26,920 --> 00:21:32,439 Speaker 3: through the immigration courts first before Khalil can challenge the decision. Now, 337 00:21:33,160 --> 00:21:37,520 Speaker 3: I'm not a lawyer, but for the legal people out there, 338 00:21:39,280 --> 00:21:44,080 Speaker 3: what this immediately reminds me of is the very concept 339 00:21:44,680 --> 00:21:50,720 Speaker 3: of standing when the tru when the Trump administration and 340 00:21:50,760 --> 00:21:54,680 Speaker 3: the Trump reelect in twenty twenty, was saying, wait, there's 341 00:21:54,720 --> 00:21:56,880 Speaker 3: a problem here, there's a problem there, there's a problem there. 342 00:21:57,720 --> 00:21:59,719 Speaker 3: And I think one of the greatest things that happened 343 00:22:00,040 --> 00:22:03,560 Speaker 3: that hurt the country was that there were courts not 344 00:22:03,600 --> 00:22:04,680 Speaker 3: willing to hear the cases. 345 00:22:05,240 --> 00:22:06,880 Speaker 2: No, no, no, we're not going to hear this case. 346 00:22:07,800 --> 00:22:09,320 Speaker 2: The Supreme Court wouldn't hear the case. 347 00:22:09,440 --> 00:22:12,000 Speaker 3: And I think for the Supreme Court it was basically 348 00:22:12,480 --> 00:22:17,760 Speaker 3: Texas saying, of Pennsylvania, you're disenfranchising our voters. 349 00:22:18,760 --> 00:22:20,080 Speaker 2: You changed the rules. 350 00:22:20,240 --> 00:22:24,240 Speaker 3: The judiciary did not the legislature, you're counting votes if 351 00:22:24,280 --> 00:22:29,119 Speaker 3: soo facto, this is disenfranchising our voters. 352 00:22:29,160 --> 00:22:31,560 Speaker 2: We can't have this. And the Supreme Court didn't hear 353 00:22:31,600 --> 00:22:31,880 Speaker 2: the case. 354 00:22:31,920 --> 00:22:34,439 Speaker 3: I think it was that case, and I remember that 355 00:22:34,880 --> 00:22:41,600 Speaker 3: it was Clarence Thomas who said if we if we 356 00:22:41,720 --> 00:22:45,199 Speaker 3: don't hear this, can I ask what it is we 357 00:22:45,280 --> 00:22:48,600 Speaker 3: do here which take your politics out of it. That's 358 00:22:48,640 --> 00:22:52,800 Speaker 3: a really smart question. Here is one state saying that 359 00:22:52,880 --> 00:22:59,320 Speaker 3: another state is usurping its voters, it's disenfranchising its voters, 360 00:22:59,320 --> 00:23:00,640 Speaker 3: and the Supreme Court said we're not going. 361 00:23:00,640 --> 00:23:03,000 Speaker 2: To hear it. If you don't hear that, what is 362 00:23:03,040 --> 00:23:05,920 Speaker 2: it that you listen to? What cases possibly could you 363 00:23:06,040 --> 00:23:09,199 Speaker 2: could matter? I always thought there was that outside of 364 00:23:09,240 --> 00:23:10,640 Speaker 2: the politics. Anybody may have. 365 00:23:10,920 --> 00:23:15,119 Speaker 3: That's a smart argument. But a lot of these courts 366 00:23:15,280 --> 00:23:17,400 Speaker 3: said we're not going to hear this. And a lot 367 00:23:17,400 --> 00:23:22,680 Speaker 3: of the reason came from the idea of that the administration, 368 00:23:22,880 --> 00:23:23,480 Speaker 3: or I should. 369 00:23:23,280 --> 00:23:26,840 Speaker 2: Say, the campaign, didn't have standing. 370 00:23:29,119 --> 00:23:36,920 Speaker 3: That you didn't have the ability to be part of 371 00:23:37,040 --> 00:23:38,320 Speaker 3: any lawsuit. 372 00:23:37,880 --> 00:23:38,600 Speaker 2: In this kind. 373 00:23:39,880 --> 00:23:43,600 Speaker 3: I think is the Latin locus STANDI. I don't think 374 00:23:43,600 --> 00:23:46,760 Speaker 3: it's standy. I think it's STANDI. A party has to 375 00:23:46,800 --> 00:23:51,320 Speaker 3: demonstrate they have a connection to and harm from the 376 00:23:51,400 --> 00:23:55,120 Speaker 3: law or the action being challenged. So standing in state court, 377 00:23:55,200 --> 00:23:59,840 Speaker 3: standing in federal court, you got to be able to show. 378 00:23:59,640 --> 00:24:01,000 Speaker 2: Your connection to it. 379 00:24:01,640 --> 00:24:04,800 Speaker 3: And very often what the Trump team was told was 380 00:24:04,840 --> 00:24:06,160 Speaker 3: that they didn't have standing. 381 00:24:09,320 --> 00:24:12,679 Speaker 2: You would only have standing after the event happened. But 382 00:24:12,720 --> 00:24:13,679 Speaker 2: after the event. 383 00:24:13,560 --> 00:24:18,639 Speaker 3: Happened, you would have no recourse to the event. That's 384 00:24:18,680 --> 00:24:23,959 Speaker 3: super frustrating. That is the immediate vibe I got from this. 385 00:24:24,080 --> 00:24:28,040 Speaker 3: Now we've got lawyers who listened to the show. Am 386 00:24:28,040 --> 00:24:31,320 Speaker 3: I conceptually right even if I'm wrong with the term. 387 00:24:31,359 --> 00:24:33,399 Speaker 2: Or am I seeing it wrong? 388 00:24:33,560 --> 00:24:37,000 Speaker 3: Because that was immediately what I saw that this has 389 00:24:37,080 --> 00:24:41,639 Speaker 3: to progress through the courts, the immigration courts, and Khalil 390 00:24:41,760 --> 00:24:45,920 Speaker 3: can't challenge a decision, and no judge can intervene until 391 00:24:45,920 --> 00:24:50,680 Speaker 3: a decision comes. Him being held is different than him 392 00:24:50,680 --> 00:24:54,240 Speaker 3: being deported, because that would be a decision. Now, I 393 00:24:54,280 --> 00:24:59,359 Speaker 3: would ask the follow up question, Let's say that the 394 00:24:59,480 --> 00:25:02,600 Speaker 3: courts come to a decision that he can be deported. 395 00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:06,439 Speaker 3: Can the Trump administration put him on a plane in 396 00:25:06,480 --> 00:25:11,480 Speaker 3: the following minutes? And if some judge were to say, well, no, no, no, 397 00:25:11,600 --> 00:25:14,120 Speaker 3: we're gonna We're gonna put a stay on this, We're 398 00:25:14,160 --> 00:25:15,359 Speaker 3: gonna question this. 399 00:25:15,760 --> 00:25:18,080 Speaker 2: Do you have to turn the plane around? Or can 400 00:25:18,119 --> 00:25:19,439 Speaker 2: you send him back first? 401 00:25:19,720 --> 00:25:22,359 Speaker 3: And then if you're told he's allowed to return, do 402 00:25:22,359 --> 00:25:23,240 Speaker 3: you have to go get him? 403 00:25:26,560 --> 00:25:28,119 Speaker 2: This is an Abrego. 404 00:25:27,800 --> 00:25:33,119 Speaker 3: Garcia kind of conversation now, but the fact that it 405 00:25:33,280 --> 00:25:35,040 Speaker 3: was overturned. 406 00:25:37,119 --> 00:25:39,080 Speaker 2: I am happy to. 407 00:25:39,080 --> 00:25:44,440 Speaker 3: See that the process still works. 408 00:25:46,200 --> 00:25:48,080 Speaker 2: The problem is is that the process is. 409 00:25:48,080 --> 00:25:51,560 Speaker 3: Unbelievably painful to deal with, and very often what you've 410 00:25:51,560 --> 00:25:54,399 Speaker 3: had from people is saying, President Trump, why is he 411 00:25:54,480 --> 00:25:57,240 Speaker 3: listening to these courts. These people are all frauds, These 412 00:25:57,240 --> 00:25:59,280 Speaker 3: people are all garbage. None of them should be on 413 00:25:59,320 --> 00:26:01,480 Speaker 3: the bench. He should be looking to remove them from 414 00:26:01,480 --> 00:26:04,600 Speaker 3: the bench. He should say forget you and go about 415 00:26:04,640 --> 00:26:09,840 Speaker 3: doing what's necessary to protect the country. The judges are activists, 416 00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:15,080 Speaker 3: it is true. And I'm there with you, and I've 417 00:26:15,080 --> 00:26:19,280 Speaker 3: come around to the other side of this through its frustration. 418 00:26:19,720 --> 00:26:21,800 Speaker 3: I think on the majority of things. There might still 419 00:26:21,800 --> 00:26:25,679 Speaker 3: be things that I hold out on. It is frustrating. 420 00:26:26,520 --> 00:26:29,560 Speaker 3: But now you've got it, you've got it written, and 421 00:26:29,600 --> 00:26:32,840 Speaker 3: you've got it decided. You have the president. You get 422 00:26:32,880 --> 00:26:36,640 Speaker 3: to have a stronger case going forward. And every time 423 00:26:36,720 --> 00:26:39,240 Speaker 3: one of these things happened where the court's ruled, you 424 00:26:39,240 --> 00:26:41,760 Speaker 3: know the Trump administration was right. No, no, no, that judge 425 00:26:41,760 --> 00:26:44,200 Speaker 3: is an activists. Now that person over did it. No, 426 00:26:44,280 --> 00:26:48,720 Speaker 3: that person exceeded their authority. You create the precedent, You 427 00:26:48,760 --> 00:26:53,359 Speaker 3: create the opportunity to have a better chance at it, 428 00:26:53,600 --> 00:26:56,440 Speaker 3: and to do it with more regularity. 429 00:26:57,200 --> 00:27:01,120 Speaker 2: In the future. You create the opportunity for yourself by 430 00:27:01,119 --> 00:27:01,840 Speaker 2: being patient. 431 00:27:01,920 --> 00:27:05,000 Speaker 3: Now, problem is, it's super hard to be patient now 432 00:27:05,440 --> 00:27:12,040 Speaker 3: considering the level of absolute despicable that comes from leftist judges, and. 433 00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:15,080 Speaker 2: What was this about. 434 00:27:16,240 --> 00:27:19,840 Speaker 3: Not funding Judge Boseburg and Republicans voting against that. 435 00:27:21,680 --> 00:27:22,280 Speaker 2: Here we go. 436 00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:27,040 Speaker 3: The Federalists have the story Sean Fleetwood doing the reporting 437 00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:33,159 Speaker 3: here that forty six House Republicans join Democrats to defeat 438 00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:36,120 Speaker 3: a bill amendment that would have stripped funding from two 439 00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:41,920 Speaker 3: activist judges. So this was proposed by Chip Roy. Do 440 00:27:42,080 --> 00:27:46,600 Speaker 3: me a favor, producer landon look up chip Roy, last 441 00:27:46,640 --> 00:27:48,680 Speaker 3: name ROI, congressman from Texas. 442 00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:50,959 Speaker 2: Find his team and let's see if we can get 443 00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:54,879 Speaker 2: him on the show next week. I want to I 444 00:27:54,960 --> 00:27:55,639 Speaker 2: want to dig in. 445 00:27:57,560 --> 00:28:00,640 Speaker 3: So it was an amendment to an appropriations package considered 446 00:28:00,680 --> 00:28:04,000 Speaker 3: by the House fiscal year twenty twenty six. So the 447 00:28:04,080 --> 00:28:09,320 Speaker 3: measure was looking to cut the budgets of two judges 448 00:28:09,320 --> 00:28:12,240 Speaker 3: in the DC District Court and the Court of Appeals 449 00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:13,040 Speaker 3: by twenty percent. 450 00:28:14,240 --> 00:28:15,080 Speaker 2: So what Roy. 451 00:28:15,119 --> 00:28:22,439 Speaker 3: Said, Chip Roy, is that the activism is purposeful to 452 00:28:22,560 --> 00:28:25,320 Speaker 3: try and thwart the duly elected presidents of the United States. 453 00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:31,960 Speaker 3: And we Congress control the checkbook. Now it should also 454 00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:36,400 Speaker 3: be remembered that Congress also controls the courts. 455 00:28:36,560 --> 00:28:41,000 Speaker 2: And you say to me, well, WHOA what happened to separate? 456 00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:41,520 Speaker 2: But equal. 457 00:28:42,040 --> 00:28:46,640 Speaker 3: What happened to not separate but equal, coequal branches of government? 458 00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:47,760 Speaker 3: I apologize there. 459 00:28:48,120 --> 00:28:49,040 Speaker 2: What happened to that? 460 00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:56,400 Speaker 3: Yes, they are coequal branches of government if you want 461 00:28:56,440 --> 00:29:01,040 Speaker 3: to believe that. Oh I do not believe eve that 462 00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:04,560 Speaker 3: the judiciary was ever meant to have the power that 463 00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:06,760 Speaker 3: it has. And I think there should be a real 464 00:29:06,760 --> 00:29:09,040 Speaker 3: look at Marbury v. Madison, But we will get to 465 00:29:09,080 --> 00:29:17,840 Speaker 3: that another time. The courts exist because of Congress. The 466 00:29:17,880 --> 00:29:24,000 Speaker 3: Constitution only prescribes or makes a consideration for a Supreme Court, 467 00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:27,920 Speaker 3: and it doesn't even give you a number of judges 468 00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:29,240 Speaker 3: that the Supreme Court has to have. 469 00:29:31,320 --> 00:29:32,920 Speaker 2: There is no number. 470 00:29:32,640 --> 00:29:36,720 Speaker 3: Listed in the Constitution. We settled on nine. You could 471 00:29:36,760 --> 00:29:42,000 Speaker 3: have four, you could have sixty three. You can have 472 00:29:42,040 --> 00:29:45,400 Speaker 3: as many Supreme Court justices as you wish, which is 473 00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:48,160 Speaker 3: why the Democrats are always talking about packing the court. 474 00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:55,680 Speaker 2: For the record, I hate the idea. I hate all 475 00:29:55,720 --> 00:29:57,840 Speaker 2: of this nonsense, and I think. 476 00:29:57,720 --> 00:30:01,600 Speaker 3: The Republicans should add twenty members right now. 477 00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:08,880 Speaker 2: Democrats are going to do it. Do it well, Tony. 478 00:30:08,920 --> 00:30:10,680 Speaker 3: If that's the case, why not just get rid of 479 00:30:10,720 --> 00:30:13,400 Speaker 3: the philibuster. Nuke the philibuster. You know Democrats are going 480 00:30:13,480 --> 00:30:17,520 Speaker 3: to do it. Oh, if I thought Republicans already had 481 00:30:17,560 --> 00:30:20,000 Speaker 3: all the votes lined up and the ten pieces of 482 00:30:20,080 --> 00:30:23,040 Speaker 3: legislation ready to go and the whip count all done. 483 00:30:23,120 --> 00:30:25,640 Speaker 3: If I thought they were organized enough in any way, 484 00:30:25,720 --> 00:30:28,680 Speaker 3: shape or form to drop the filibuster and get serious 485 00:30:28,800 --> 00:30:32,120 Speaker 3: legislation through with fifty one votes or fifty votes on 486 00:30:32,160 --> 00:30:35,960 Speaker 3: the Jdvans tiebreak, absolutely, you know what my faith is 487 00:30:35,960 --> 00:30:38,240 Speaker 3: in the Republican Party to have that process set up 488 00:30:38,520 --> 00:30:39,560 Speaker 3: correct zero. 489 00:30:40,600 --> 00:30:42,800 Speaker 2: That's the problem. 490 00:30:42,960 --> 00:30:45,400 Speaker 3: As a matter of pure strategy, if you want to 491 00:30:45,440 --> 00:30:47,800 Speaker 3: get rid of the philibuster, you have to have everything 492 00:30:47,840 --> 00:30:49,080 Speaker 3: lined up and ready to go. 493 00:30:49,360 --> 00:30:49,800 Speaker 2: They don't. 494 00:30:52,080 --> 00:30:56,080 Speaker 3: Democrats would. They don't, so you don't drop the filibuster. 495 00:30:58,400 --> 00:31:02,560 Speaker 3: The Court exists at the creation of Congress or by 496 00:31:02,560 --> 00:31:04,920 Speaker 3: the creation of Congress, and if the Court could create it, 497 00:31:05,120 --> 00:31:07,960 Speaker 3: or the Congress can create it, Congress can take it away. 498 00:31:08,280 --> 00:31:11,840 Speaker 3: And I believe this is something we should be looking at. 499 00:31:15,080 --> 00:31:18,840 Speaker 3: This is something we should be asking ourselves now. People 500 00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:21,960 Speaker 3: like Glenn Reynolds, known as the Instapundent. If you've ever 501 00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:27,000 Speaker 3: been to instapundit dot com a great, great site aggregator 502 00:31:27,160 --> 00:31:29,520 Speaker 3: of news, and Glenn Reynolds is excellent. In a law professor, 503 00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:32,480 Speaker 3: University of Tennessee good Man, good. 504 00:31:32,280 --> 00:31:32,840 Speaker 2: Good men. 505 00:31:33,600 --> 00:31:38,600 Speaker 3: He argues that the answer is not less courts. The 506 00:31:38,680 --> 00:31:43,520 Speaker 3: answer is more, add more courts and put your people 507 00:31:43,560 --> 00:31:48,080 Speaker 3: on those courts and therefore have more options and opportunities. 508 00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:54,720 Speaker 2: It's really interesting. It's a really interesting take. But what 509 00:31:54,880 --> 00:31:58,000 Speaker 2: happened was was that they go to this. 510 00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:03,240 Speaker 3: And it gets voted against the Republicans voted down one 511 00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:13,800 Speaker 3: sixty three to two fifty seven. It's annoying. Now, maybe 512 00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:18,000 Speaker 3: the argument is, well, it was part of this appropriations package. 513 00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:22,440 Speaker 3: You should be a part of something else. Now, if 514 00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:26,680 Speaker 3: we're gonna fight, let's fight. If we're going to see 515 00:32:26,680 --> 00:32:31,400 Speaker 3: these justices engaged in a process of pure politics, one 516 00:32:31,440 --> 00:32:32,680 Speaker 3: can use pure politics. 517 00:32:32,840 --> 00:32:37,160 Speaker 2: The court still exists. You just have less money. That's wrong. 518 00:32:39,360 --> 00:32:41,360 Speaker 3: I guarantee you. If Democrats have power, they're going to 519 00:32:41,400 --> 00:32:42,080 Speaker 3: do exactly this. 520 00:32:43,360 --> 00:32:47,800 Speaker 2: Mark this down. It's coming. I'm Tony Katz, and this 521 00:32:48,280 --> 00:32:49,600 Speaker 2: is Tony Katz Today. 522 00:32:49,640 --> 00:33:00,000 Speaker 7: Every day we learned that zorn Mom Donnie wasn't lying. 523 00:33:02,440 --> 00:33:04,840 Speaker 3: When he told us he was a communist. Tony Katz, 524 00:33:06,160 --> 00:33:09,080 Speaker 3: Tony kats today, good to be with you and this 525 00:33:09,200 --> 00:33:14,120 Speaker 3: woman see a weaver who is frightening to look at. 526 00:33:14,120 --> 00:33:17,800 Speaker 2: Sometimes this mousey woman. 527 00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:22,520 Speaker 3: Who is going to be in charge of tenants rights 528 00:33:23,440 --> 00:33:27,600 Speaker 3: doesn't believe in property rights, thinks that private property is 529 00:33:27,600 --> 00:33:29,680 Speaker 3: white supremacy. Even though her mom owns a one point 530 00:33:29,720 --> 00:33:33,600 Speaker 3: six million dollar house. She has never done anything with 531 00:33:33,640 --> 00:33:36,720 Speaker 3: her life. She's never created anything, she's never built anything. 532 00:33:36,760 --> 00:33:39,480 Speaker 3: She only knows how to take. And she was on 533 00:33:39,560 --> 00:33:45,400 Speaker 3: a podcast where she is explaining how rent control is 534 00:33:45,680 --> 00:33:49,080 Speaker 3: the gateway to socialized houses. 535 00:33:49,240 --> 00:33:52,280 Speaker 8: Fighting for rent control was a strategic and critical first 536 00:33:52,360 --> 00:33:54,880 Speaker 8: step in the fight for full social housing. So a 537 00:33:54,880 --> 00:33:57,200 Speaker 8: lot of times people ask why are we fighting for 538 00:33:57,240 --> 00:33:59,320 Speaker 8: rent control when we have night show we should be 539 00:33:59,320 --> 00:34:04,000 Speaker 8: fighting to save our public housing. We decided that. 540 00:34:05,400 --> 00:34:06,680 Speaker 2: Through a program like. 541 00:34:06,600 --> 00:34:09,360 Speaker 8: Rent control, we are able to sort of directly challenge 542 00:34:09,360 --> 00:34:14,239 Speaker 8: the logic of unfettered profit in the real estate, and 543 00:34:14,320 --> 00:34:16,319 Speaker 8: we are able to directly challenge housing as a wealth 544 00:34:16,320 --> 00:34:19,200 Speaker 8: building tool and through regulations, take a blow to the 545 00:34:19,360 --> 00:34:22,520 Speaker 8: entire real estate industry at once. And so the beauty 546 00:34:22,520 --> 00:34:26,319 Speaker 8: of rent stabilization and rent control is that we can 547 00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:29,440 Speaker 8: the speculative value of the real estate asset. The value 548 00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:31,200 Speaker 8: is no longer based on what the landlord is able 549 00:34:31,239 --> 00:34:35,960 Speaker 8: to get but rather it's based on a state public 550 00:34:36,200 --> 00:34:38,560 Speaker 8: board who's deciding how much rent is going up. And yes, 551 00:34:38,600 --> 00:34:41,200 Speaker 8: that board is controlled by the real estate industry, and 552 00:34:41,320 --> 00:34:43,120 Speaker 8: yes there could be a better way to regulate it. 553 00:34:43,440 --> 00:34:45,480 Speaker 8: But the idea is that we could weaken the entire 554 00:34:45,560 --> 00:34:49,399 Speaker 8: industry at once through a strong rent control campaign, and 555 00:34:49,440 --> 00:34:53,000 Speaker 8: that that would strengthen our ability to do things like 556 00:34:53,080 --> 00:34:54,320 Speaker 8: fight for social housing. 557 00:34:56,520 --> 00:34:58,319 Speaker 3: If you want to know what a communist sounds like, 558 00:34:58,400 --> 00:35:03,200 Speaker 3: there it is, Mom. Donnie is a communist. Bernie Sanders 559 00:35:03,239 --> 00:35:06,560 Speaker 3: is a communist. Acossi Cortez is a communist. See a 560 00:35:06,600 --> 00:35:08,920 Speaker 3: weaver here is a communist. And this is what they favor, 561 00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:13,160 Speaker 3: you not having property rights. Property rights are the rights 562 00:35:13,160 --> 00:35:16,960 Speaker 3: of free people. Without property rights, you're not free. And 563 00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:23,640 Speaker 3: they're saying, yeah, that's what we want. Every day they're 564 00:35:23,719 --> 00:35:29,640 Speaker 3: telling you. Every day they're saying, you shouldn't own what 565 00:35:29,680 --> 00:35:32,440 Speaker 3: you own and we should use government to take it. 566 00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:40,080 Speaker 3: Vote accordingly. These people are dangerous and when they can't 567 00:35:40,160 --> 00:35:42,359 Speaker 3: get what they want through regulation, they'll do it via 568 00:35:42,440 --> 00:35:43,240 Speaker 3: the barrel of a gun. 569 00:35:43,560 --> 00:35:47,680 Speaker 2: Because history has already been written. This is Tony Katz today.