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Speaker 1: We told you twenty twenty six was going to be

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Speaker 1: up for you. And I can't think of a better

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Speaker 1: Casey Show. So yesterday we talked about on the show

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Speaker 1: this pole that came out from Mike Brown's home county,

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Speaker 1: a staggering sixty two percent of people who live in

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Speaker 1: I said to myself, and we talked about this yesterday

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Speaker 1: do than just people being mad about electric bills or

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Speaker 1: property taxes. There's something going on here, so let's get

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Speaker 1: to the bottom of it. We've got a guy, because

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Speaker 1: I think a lot of this centers around this Mid

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Speaker 2: Jason McCoy joins us.

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Speaker 1: Now, Jason is the president of the Property Rights Alliance

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Speaker 1: down in southwestern Indiana. So tell us about this poll,

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Speaker 1: because you were part of the group that approved this poll.

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Speaker 1: Were you surprised to see sixty two percent of the

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Speaker 1: people in Mike Bron's home county disapproving of the job

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Speaker 1: he's doing.

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Speaker 3: Definitely not no, not at home. No.

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Speaker 4: Why well, because eighty one percent of the people in

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Speaker 4: the polls say that they're vehemently opposed to the construction

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Speaker 4: of this road. It's forty six million dollars a mile

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Speaker 4: in dot has not been able to articulate a need

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Speaker 4: couple of his cronies that are in the trucking business.

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Speaker 4: You know, Braun is in the trucking business, want this road.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So when you say this road and this is

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Speaker 1: what's important we're talking about, and I look, I got admit.

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Speaker 1: I was totally the sleep of the switch on this.

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Speaker 1: I'd heard this mentioned before over the last couple of years.

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Speaker 1: I hadn't paid close attention to it.

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Speaker 2: Then I did.

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Speaker 1: I said, Oh, my gosh, you're talking about the Mid

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Speaker 4: Yes, the Mid State's Corridor, that's what they're calling it now.

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Speaker 4: Back in twenty eleven, one of Mike Bron's friends, Hank Minky,

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Speaker 4: Owns OFS Brands and Styline Logistics, started pushing for what

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Speaker 4: he called the sixty seven Exchange or the sixty seven

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Speaker 4: built for years and years. It would never pass referendum.

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Speaker 4: The public simply wouldn't allow it. And only through the

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Speaker 4: passage of Senate Bill one twenty eight that was penned

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Speaker 1: Okay, So a couple of things. When you're talking about

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Speaker 1: miles of road that would essentially try to connect be

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Speaker 1: a part of connecting sixty four to sixty nine, basically

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Speaker 2: That's correct, okay.

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Speaker 1: And when you talk about Mesmer, you're talking about now

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Speaker 1: Congressman Mark Mesmer, who was a state Senator at the time.

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Speaker 3: That's right.

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Speaker 1: And Mike Braun was a member of the Indiana House

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Speaker 1: of Representatives at one point in all of that.

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Speaker 4: Actually, yeah, so it goes back before that. So when

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Speaker 4: I think maybe around twenty seventeen when they started working

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Speaker 2: Okay, so get if you're just joining us. Jason McCoy

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Speaker 1: He's the president of the Property Rights Alliance in du

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Speaker 1: many other people feel this way, saying it relates to

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Speaker 1: Braun's long time support of this Mid States Corridor project.

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Speaker 1: This road very unpopular in to boys, Kate, du Bois County.

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Speaker 4: Is the heart of this right, I mean absolutely, Although

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Speaker 1: Also, so why is Braun in so in support of

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Speaker 4: So it's not as much Mike Braun, in my opinion,

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Speaker 4: the consensus is that this is Mike Braun's road. Mike

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Speaker 1: Okay, So what you're saying is and so Meyer Transportation

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Speaker 1: And look, they're a mega company. They always try to

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Speaker 1: This is a mega company that would make stand to

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Speaker 3: Absolutely. Yeah.

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Speaker 4: If you go back to Dubois County Free Press starting

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Speaker 4: in twenty eleven and you click on mid State's Corridor,

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Speaker 4: you can get the entire rundown of the inception of

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Speaker 4: this project. And twenty eleven was what six years before

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Speaker 1: Some people might be asking, how is this not a

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Speaker 1: conflict of interest because if you're you own a certain

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Speaker 1: seems wrong to people. Have there been people down into

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Speaker 1: that the now governor then state rep was allegedly using

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Speaker 4: That's true, But in speaking with people around Dubois County,

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Speaker 4: even businesses on the square, you know, people have said,

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Speaker 4: it's going to be good for our business. Any bypass

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Speaker 4: around a town oftentimes devastates the local economy. But Mike

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Speaker 4: Bron's used to getting what he wants, and if Mike

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Speaker 4: people think that there's a conflict of interest, not just

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Speaker 1: Right, Okay, let's let's let's stop on that, because then

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Speaker 1: He is the president of the Property Rights Alliance down

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Speaker 1: into Boise County. We're talking about the Mid States Corridor

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Speaker 1: showing sixty two percent of the people in the governor's

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Speaker 1: And there's so many layers there's no way we're gonna

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Speaker 1: would you say OURDA tell us what OURDA means and why.

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Speaker 1: That's a part of this conversation.

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Speaker 4: So Regional Development Authorities came under Pence's administration through Eric Dodin.

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Speaker 4: He set these up.

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Speaker 2: It was a good guy preeomentor by the way he

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Speaker 3: He did head of the IEDC.

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Speaker 4: In fact, in talking with him, he looked over this

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Speaker 4: particular RDA down here in Jasper and one of his

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Speaker 4: comments was, this isn't quite what I had in mind.

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Speaker 4: It seems like something different than what I you know,

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Speaker 4: constructed under Pensi's administration. So the RDA allows for several

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Speaker 4: things imminent domain to have the power. These are not

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Speaker 4: the RDA. They are not They don't answer to anyone.

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Speaker 4: They have imminent domain powers. It's this entire process. One

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Speaker 1: Again, just tuning in our conversation day with Jason McCoy's

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Speaker 1: We're talking about their objection to the Mid States Corridor project.

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Speaker 1: So is it because you guys did polling on more

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Speaker 1: talking about looking at how poor Lebron's doing in his

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Speaker 3: Well, we can one of.

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Speaker 4: The things I'll tell you though, Rob, before I answer,

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Speaker 4: I think people are for this. I encouraged Dean vonder

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Speaker 4: many people are for this, get a poll. And Dean

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Speaker 4: Chuckleton said, oh wow, I'm not interested in doing that.

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Speaker 3: Their own poll.

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Speaker 4: They weren't interested in that, and so we commissioned our

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Speaker 4: of good Boys County residents are vehemently opposed to the

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Speaker 2: And who's not Now you mentioned the mayor of Jasper.

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Speaker 1: That's very interesting because you said he is a big

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Speaker 4: I consider Mayor vander Heide a personal friend. But we

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Speaker 4: know that Braun has told him point blank, you need

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Speaker 4: to get your city council in line. We're losing our

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Speaker 4: You need to get your city council in line. And

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Speaker 4: probably two weeks ago, I think when the poll came out,

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Speaker 2: Okay, let's take a quick break. I just joining us

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Speaker 2: our guest, Jason McCoy.

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Speaker 1: He's the president of the Property Rights Alliance down to

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Speaker 1: southwest Indiana. We're talking about this poll that came out

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Speaker 1: that showed people in du Bois County, Mike Broun's home county,

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Speaker 1: they are angry. Sixty two percent of the peace disapproving

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Speaker 1: of the job he's doing, and a lot of it

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Speaker 1: relates to his support of the Mid States Corridor Project.

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Speaker 1: We've got a lot more to get to stick Around's

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Speaker 1: Kennlly Casey Show ninety three. WIBC turned look strung out

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Speaker 1: We're talking about this pole that the group he's affiliated

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Speaker 3: Now, that's what we all believe here.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and we all do consider that a massive conflict

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Speaker 2: Own, right.

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Speaker 3: No, it's three point four billion dollars is what they estimate. Now.

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Speaker 4: That doesn't even include a land acquisition, right, acquiring land

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Speaker 4: You know, it's funny people talk about Braun being a

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Speaker 1: Now, look, it doesn't mean that's what's happening. You have

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Speaker 1: I do think it's interesting though, that his Lieutenant Governor

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Speaker 1: Micah beck with With puts out a tweet confirming that that said,

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Speaker 2: Before that, steam rolling ahead. Uh.

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Speaker 1: Do you guys have any support inside the General Assembly?

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Speaker 1: Do you have any allies in there? Anybody fighting for

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Speaker 2: Or is it as usual? It's like it's kindling Casey

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Speaker 4: Well, it's very important that you've allowed us to come

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Speaker 4: and you'll be on your show and to help help

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Speaker 4: tell you that the re dististing issue has helped so

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Speaker 4: many people have said, well, we don't quite understand why

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Speaker 4: Braun keeps hopping from seat to seat to us down home,

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Speaker 4: we all completely understand it.

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Speaker 3: It's no mystery to us.

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Speaker 1: And you think, do you is it your belief then that,

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Speaker 4: That is, that is rob That is the general consensus

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Speaker 1: Holy smokes. That is under like the Senate, everything, the

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Speaker 1: run for governor, all of that. People believe that connect

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Speaker 1: Why do you give up a US senateca to become governor?

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Speaker 1: You know Bron's friend I think you belore was appointed

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Speaker 1: this road badly. Again, I will encourage you to go

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Speaker 1: to Dubois County Free Press start in mid State's Corridor

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Speaker 1: but we see this every single day and they can't.

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Speaker 1: It is your belief. You guys have studied this with

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Speaker 4: It's not just paperwork and permitting. Senate Bill one twenty

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Speaker 1: Why is the like? And look, I'm guilty of this.

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Speaker 1: And if you had you guys not put this poll out,

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Speaker 1: Because I felt the same thing about a client elter,

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Speaker 1: This is the sitting governor and whatever the reality of

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Speaker 4: And you know it is a big story to us

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Speaker 4: One hundred and sixty five do Boys County residents who

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Speaker 4: weren't doing it. The Lockmuller Group surveyors said, well, you know,

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Speaker 4: We've got the backing of him. We can show up

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Speaker 2: Well, well, wait a minute.

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Speaker 1: The man of the people, Todd Raketa, he's putting the

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Speaker 4: When these people called Tom Kleinhelter the sheriff and asked

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Speaker 4: up out there again to support these people. We're gonna

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Speaker 3: Rob.

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Speaker 4: This is a state police matter right now, and it

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Speaker 4: just so happens. I don't think coincidentally that Mike Bron's

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Speaker 1: So, how are you guys here the Property Rights Alliance

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Speaker 1: You've partnered up with other people there, you guys are

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Speaker 2: Where are we at now? As it relates to the

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Speaker 4: So one of the things that they need that in

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Speaker 4: DOT needs is in DOT needs Jasper and Huntingberg and

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Speaker 4: reiterate upon information, and believe Braun told Dean vonderheide our mayor,

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Speaker 4: know what, eighty one percent of the people don't want

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Speaker 1: Okay, So what do you need from the people down

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Speaker 4: We need people to start paying attention right this, this

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Speaker 4: this whole specter of you know, Braun's the governor, and

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Speaker 4: I think he's used to doing what he wants.

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Speaker 1: And if people want to learn more about what you're doing,

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Speaker 1: maybe support your or maybe just get more information how

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Speaker 4: Please do so. You know, Property Rights Alliance dot org.

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Speaker 4: We have a meeting every other Thursday in Jasper. We're

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Speaker 4: several hundred in numbers right now. We started off with

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Speaker 4: you know what, we're not really supposed to have to

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Speaker 4: so more and more people have got on board. Stop

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Speaker 4: the Mid States cord Or Coalition on Facebook is another

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Speaker 2: All Right, Jason McCoy property writes the lines, thank you,

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Speaker 2: my friend, Thank you. Rob ninety three WIBC.

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Speaker 1: It's Kennelly Casey Show.

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Speaker 2: Ethan. I have a very important question for you.

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Speaker 3: Go ahead.

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Speaker 1: It's Kennelly Casey Show ninety three WIBC. Rob Ethan's in

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Speaker 1: for Casey today. Before we get to this very important question,

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Speaker 1: for Kevin today, doing a fabulous job manning all the buttons.

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Speaker 1: It's like a space ship in there. I have no

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Speaker 1: idea what any of the stuff does, Kurt.

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Speaker 5: That is how I've described it since we started in

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Speaker 5: this new building. It is a spaceship in front of me,

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Speaker 5: and we are learning it every week as we go.

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Speaker 1: And you're doing flawless thus far. So thank you for

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Speaker 1: that filling in for Kevin. Okay ethan very important question now. Yesterday,

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Speaker 1: as we talked about on the program, I have dubbed

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Speaker 1: this the Year of the Listener, in which this program

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Speaker 1: is dedicated twenty four hours a day, seven days a week,

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Speaker 1: the nine to noon. I guess that's really only three

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Speaker 1: hours a day, five days a week, but the nine

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Speaker 1: to noon Monday through Friday.

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Speaker 2: It is the Year of the Listener.

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Speaker 1: And everything we are doing is about standing up for

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Speaker 1: our listeners. And at the end of the program yesterday,

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Speaker 1: I said, look, I'm willing to do that with this

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Speaker 1: very valuable airtime because I think our audience is worth it,

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Speaker 1: and I believe in our audience, and I will use

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Speaker 1: what power I have or what influence I have to

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Speaker 1: stand up for them. But I said, they can't do

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Speaker 1: We can't do it alone. We can't fight all your

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Speaker 1: battles for you. And this year, unlike any other year,

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Speaker 1: the listener, in the Year of the Listener, has to

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Speaker 1: stand up for themselves. And so my question to you, Ethan,

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Speaker 1: is what do you plan to do to contribute in

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Speaker 1: the Year of the Listener.

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Speaker 5: Well, that's your resolution, Rob, that's not my resolution.

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Speaker 2: I'm not doing anything for the audience. Noo a great comeback, Ethan.

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Speaker 5: My resolution is to repay my home equity loan that

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Speaker 5: I maxed out doing the four bedroom house remodel that

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Speaker 5: I've been working on for the last two years.

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Speaker 1: That's my resolution. Boy, nobody kills a segment like you.

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Speaker 1: And I give some big speech yesterday about we're gonna

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Speaker 1: start in the bass deal.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna do it like never before even hour. Are

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Speaker 2: you gonna help? I'm going to pay off my home

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Speaker 2: equity loan, thanks be.

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Speaker 5: I'm going to stave off bankruptcy so I can continue

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Speaker 5: to come in and be a part of this wonderful

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Speaker 5: station Rob By doing my day job as landlording. It

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Speaker 5: facilitates my ability to come in and entertain all of

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Speaker 5: you find people on the radio, because without that, I

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Speaker 5: would not be here. Because being here does not pay

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Speaker 5: enough to pay the bills. I have to have another job,

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Speaker 5: and in order to do that, I have to pay

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Speaker 5: those bills. Do you see how this system works?

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Speaker 1: Everyone, be sure to check out Saturday night on the

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Speaker 1: Circle seven to nine Saturday nights. If Ethan gets his

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Speaker 1: home equity loan paid off, he might be there standing

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Speaker 1: up for you, but maybe not.

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Speaker 2: We wish him the best. All right, Well, I was.

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Speaker 1: Hoping there would be some big thing where you were

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Speaker 1: gonna be like yes, like never before.

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Speaker 2: I'm going to engage with the audience.

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Speaker 1: I'm going to be going to send me their trials

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Speaker 1: and their tribulations, and I will be the voice of

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Speaker 1: them on the weekends.

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Speaker 5: I'm going to continue advocate for a Hatcher weekday show

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Speaker 5: to take shape in some form or another that will

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Speaker 5: entertain you on a daily basis.

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Speaker 3: Hopefully.

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Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, everything is about you? Well, okay, segment killer.

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Speaker 1: In the meantime, that's.

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Speaker 2: What a New Year's resolution is all about. It's about you,

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Speaker 2: not not.

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Speaker 5: About what you're doing for the public. I mean it

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Speaker 5: can be that's your resolution, it's not my reel resolution.

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Speaker 2: Don't drag me into this.

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Speaker 1: The window in the state of Indiana to run for

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Speaker 1: public office, I believe it opens tomorrow and you have

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Speaker 1: basically I think it is a month of various offices

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Speaker 1: you're going to run for. And we said, look, maybe

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Speaker 1: you're not a person who wants to run for public office.

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Speaker 1: Maybe that's not your thing, but you certainly can dedicate

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Speaker 1: your time to helping people who are running for public office,

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Speaker 1: helping run a campaign, serving as a treasurer, knocking on doors,

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Speaker 1: putting out yard signs, whatever it is you need to

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Speaker 1: do something this year, especially in an election, you're to

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Speaker 1: get involved to try and make a difference.

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Speaker 3: And this is the filing deadline really open tomorrow.

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Speaker 1: I think tomorrow is January seventh, is the day where

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Speaker 1: you can go down and file for whatever public office

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Speaker 1: you desire to hope.

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Speaker 5: I was planning to run for delegate because nothing would

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Speaker 5: to like me more than being able to vote against

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Speaker 5: slimy Diego Morales and meaningless Micah beck with at the convention.

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Speaker 1: Well, you won't get Micah for another two years, no,

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Speaker 1: but I'll be ready to go.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you would get diego.

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Speaker 1: But anyway, one of the things that I hear from

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Speaker 1: people is they say, well, what's when people ponder running

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Speaker 1: for public office or getting involved in the process, they say, well,

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Speaker 1: what's the point. The system's rigged, it's too much to overcome.

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Speaker 2: I can't do it. And I say, it is if

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Speaker 2: you believe it is.

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Speaker 1: And there's so many things that people can do if

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Speaker 1: they just believed in themselves, or believe in their candidates,

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Speaker 1: or believe in the idea of making a difference. Then look,

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Speaker 1: it is hard to beat the system. It is hard

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Speaker 1: to beat the establishment. They have that power for a reason.

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Speaker 1: But you've got two options. You can sit around and

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Speaker 1: keep bitching and paying off your home equity loan like Ethan,

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Speaker 1: or you can say enough is enough, and for one

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Speaker 1: time in my life, I'm going to do something different

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Speaker 1: than I'm always done, and I'm going to try, at

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Speaker 1: the very least to make these people earn it, to

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Speaker 1: shake up the system. And I may be out outmanned,

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Speaker 1: i may be outgunned, i may be outfunded, but darn it,

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Speaker 1: I'm going to finally get involved in this process. And

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Speaker 1: one of the great success stories of this and people

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Speaker 1: longtime listeners of this program know one of the people

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Speaker 1: that I look, I think he's not only one of

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Speaker 1: the most interesting people in the history politics in this country,

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Speaker 1: but in the history of the country period is Jesse Ventura.

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Speaker 1: And of course, like I think, when you factor in

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Speaker 1: the guy was a Navy seiing, he's a frog man.

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Speaker 1: He was, he was a you know, a decorate member

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Speaker 1: of the military. He then went on to become this

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Speaker 1: superstar in the world of professional wrestling. He then becomes

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Speaker 1: the governor of Minnesota.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I was about say, governor of Minnesota. What did

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Speaker 5: Minnesota do to go from Jesse venture to Timmy Walls?

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Speaker 1: And Jesse Ventura ran on the idea that the government

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Speaker 1: was collecting too much money, they weren't spending it responsibly.

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Speaker 2: It needed to go back to the people.

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Speaker 1: And I look, I just think the Jesse Ventura and

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Speaker 1: I feel the same way about Donald Trump. I think

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Speaker 1: Donald Trump, whether you like his politics or not, one

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Speaker 1: of the most interesting people who has ever lived in

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Speaker 1: the history of this country. I put Jesse event Turn

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Speaker 1: in the same boat. But he he I mentioned all

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Speaker 1: of this because he ran as a guy who was

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Speaker 1: dramatically out out funded by the Democrats.

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Speaker 2: And Republicans. He ran as a third party.

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Speaker 1: He ran as a guy who essentially had everything working

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Speaker 1: against him other than people knew who he was, and

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Speaker 1: with almost no money, he went and won the governorship

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Speaker 1: of the state of Minnesota. And years ago he gave

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Speaker 1: an interview with a guy named Graham Benzinger and they

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Speaker 1: talked about a wide is probably an hour long interview.

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Speaker 2: They talked about, you know, his.

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Speaker 1: Acting career and politics and wrestling and all of this stuff.

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Speaker 1: But one of the things they talked with him about

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Speaker 1: was how did he overcome all the odds? How did

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Speaker 1: he become governor with everything working against him? And I,

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Speaker 1: to this day, I think it's pretty good advice, he said.

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Speaker 1: I just took my argument to the people, and I

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Speaker 1: told the truth. And when people see somebody who's not

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Speaker 1: bull crapping them, maybe they listen.

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Speaker 6: The I triple RB. I didn't know what I says.

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Speaker 6: I don't even know what it is, but I said,

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Speaker 6: if it's important, I'll learn about it. The crowd erupted

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Speaker 6: in applause and cheering because they saw someone who wasn't

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Speaker 6: bullying them. They saw someone who got up. Did you

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Speaker 6: know I never used a prepared speech my entire run

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Speaker 6: for governor. I didn't have speech writers. I didn't have

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Speaker 6: I didn't have what do they call it, spin doctors.

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Speaker 6: We didn't even do polling, We didn't bother, we didn't

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Speaker 6: have the money to do any of that.

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Speaker 5: How many first time voters came out a lot of

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Speaker 5: election a lot, and that was largely the difference, wasn't it.

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Speaker 6: That's why? That's how come if I run for president,

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Speaker 6: if they let me in the debates, I'd win that too,

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Speaker 6: bold talk, isn't it? Here's why hear me out the

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Speaker 6: last national election, sixty four percent, a clear majority of

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Speaker 6: the American people didn't bother to vote. They're all my

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Speaker 6: potential customers and voters.

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Speaker 2: Okay, would you cut through?

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Speaker 1: That's Jesse the body of inter Would you cut through

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Speaker 1: the bravado and the bluster. And he makes a very

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Speaker 1: valid point though, Ethan, which is people crave authenticity in

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Speaker 1: every facet of our society.

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 1: People believe that they're just being presented a prepared product,

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Speaker 1: whether it's what they see on their television, what they

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Speaker 1: see on the internet, what they see from their politicians.

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Speaker 1: They believe everything is scripted and nobody. People are so

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Speaker 1: afraid to be themselves. And if you're thinking about running

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Speaker 1: for public office or getting involved in this process, one

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Speaker 1: you should. Everybody should do it at least at one

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Speaker 1: point in their life. But if you are willing to

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Speaker 1: just be yourself, don't say what you think people want

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Speaker 1: to hear, say what you actually think. Be honest with people.

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Speaker 1: People crave authenticity. Do you know how many times people

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Speaker 1: have written my obituary on this radio station on my

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Speaker 1: political career when I had one before that daily every day?

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Speaker 2: And here we are.

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Speaker 1: We're number one, right because we are authentic. And whether

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Speaker 1: people like us or don't, they agree with us or

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Speaker 1: they don't, they know they're getting the truth from us

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Speaker 1: on this radio show. You don't have to have the

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Speaker 1: most money, you don't have to have the best campaign strategy.

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Speaker 2: You just gotta want it more than the next guy.

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Speaker 1: And he makes a great point about how so many

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Speaker 1: people don't engage, they don't even vote because they don't

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Speaker 1: feel like they have anything to believe in. And there's

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Speaker 1: so many people out there who you could get to

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Speaker 1: vote for you if you just got to them, if

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Speaker 1: you just believed, if I can reach people and I

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Speaker 1: will talk to them, the people will show up to vote.

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Speaker 2: I believed in that, and I one, I.

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Speaker 1: Just I find it so fascinating how people talk about

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Speaker 1: every single, every single thing that's against them and they

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Speaker 1: just ignore the things that could potentially be working for

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Speaker 1: them if they just put the effort in.

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Speaker 5: A sprinkling of theatrical bravado goes a long way and

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Speaker 5: obviously served Jesse Ventura, Well, it served you well, it

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Speaker 5: served Donald Trump. Well, I think there's an element to

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Speaker 5: be spoken for there.

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Speaker 2: All right, let's take a break.

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Speaker 1: When we come back, we got to play this clip

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Speaker 1: of this chick from New York. She is part of

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Speaker 1: the Mom Donnie administration. And if you're a white person,

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Speaker 1: you might be about to lose your house.

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Speaker 2: It's KETTL. Casey Show ninety three WIBC.

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Speaker 1: All Right, if you're a white person and you live

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Speaker 1: in New York City, I would I would be very

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Speaker 1: of the alarmed because this lady, who is a part

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Speaker 1: of Mom Donnie's administration, basically said, they're coming for your house.

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Speaker 5: Well that's okay. There's less than thirty percent of them there,

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Speaker 5: so they're the minority.

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Speaker 1: Now, this is simply unbelievable. So see a weaver is

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Speaker 1: this chick's name and listen to what she says how

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Speaker 1: the Moump Dotty administration is going to handle housing in

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Speaker 1: New York.

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Speaker 7: I think the reality is is that for centuries we've

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Speaker 7: really treated property as an individualized good and not a

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Speaker 7: collective good. And we are going to and transitioning to

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Speaker 7: treating it as a collective good and towards a model

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Speaker 7: of shared equity will require that we think about it differently,

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Speaker 7: and it will mean that families, especially white families, but

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Speaker 7: some POC families who are homeowners as well, are going

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Speaker 7: to have a different relationship to property than the one

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Speaker 7: that we currently have.

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Speaker 1: That should scare the hell I'm looking directly into the

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Speaker 1: YouTube camera. By the way, you can watch us the

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Speaker 1: Kennel and Casey Show on YouTube. Just put Kennel and

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Speaker 1: Casey into your YouTube search browser. You can see us.

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Speaker 1: That should scare the hell out of everyone.

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Speaker 5: This strikes me as a woman who has clearly never

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Speaker 5: heard or learned of the tragedy of the commons, if

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Speaker 5: she is viewing property as a so called collective good,

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Speaker 5: but overlooking how collective property is often used and most

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Speaker 5: often abused.

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Speaker 1: And if you're I mean, I don't mean to make

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Speaker 1: it a race thing. But she did clearly did, so

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Speaker 1: you have to respond to it. It wasn't like they

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Speaker 1: hid this is what they were going to do. If

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Speaker 1: you were a white person, how could you be remotely

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Speaker 1: surprised about what's coming your way?

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Speaker 2: They told you what they were going to do.

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Speaker 5: I think these people have been blinded by propaganda. They

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Speaker 5: have certainly bought into what has been fed. I just

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Speaker 5: watched a clip of a bunch of Hasidic Jews in

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Speaker 5: New York celebrating the election of Mayor Mom Donnie, and

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Speaker 5: to me, it looked like a bunch of chickens celebrating

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Speaker 5: the election of Colonel Sanders.

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Speaker 1: From here, it's Kittle Casey Show. I'm Rob Casey's Today.

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Speaker 1: Ethan's in for Casey.

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Speaker 3: Ethan.

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Speaker 2: If you tried to buy a car lately, No, I

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Speaker 2: couldn't afford a car.

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Speaker 3: You not, you and your drugs.

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Speaker 2: Rob it, when's the last time you bought a car?

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Speaker 5: Two thousand twenty two, I bought a used Chevrolet two

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Speaker 5: thousand and six Chevrolet Silverado one point five.

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Speaker 2: Lee, Okay, I don't need the whole story. I just

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Speaker 2: needed to know one the last time you bought a car?

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Speaker 2: And two.

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Speaker 1: Well, I asked this because MSN has an article that

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Speaker 1: came out and in this article originally ran in Bloomberg,

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Speaker 1: they're talking about how vehicles sales are slowing in the

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Speaker 1: United States, but it's because of the price of the

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Speaker 1: automobile skyrocketing and making the automobile unaffordable for the average person.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: Absolutely, the cost of a new automobile is prohibitive and ridiculous.

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Speaker 5: You shouldn't be spending upwards of thirty thousand for automobile,

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Speaker 5: or most of the trucks I see on the lot

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Speaker 5: are sixty thousand, eighty thousand, or I've seen some much

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Speaker 5: for a car for a truck. Oh yeah, but still

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Speaker 5: eighty thousand dollars for a truck is damn ridiculous. And

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Speaker 5: I've seen some dealers say, well, look at this hundred

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Speaker 5: thousand dollars. Nobody, nobody should be paying one hundred thousand

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Speaker 5: dollars for a truck.

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Speaker 2: I don't care what truck it is.

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Speaker 1: Kurt Gerald's producer, Kurt Gerald's extraordinary. You're handsomely wealthy. When's

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Speaker 1: the last time you bought an automobile?

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Speaker 3: About a year ago, I bought my Christler three hundred.

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Speaker 2: Was it eighty thousand dollars?

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Speaker 5: No, it was about I think it was about with

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Speaker 5: thirty six thirty.

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Speaker 2: How are you.

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Speaker 1: Paying thirty six thousand dollars for an automobile? You make

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Speaker 1: three dollars an hour here?

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Speaker 5: You know you gotta do what you gotta do to

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Speaker 5: drive out there in the streets.

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Speaker 3: Try sales.

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Speaker 5: I'm sorry, drug sales, I do driving blackout Christler three hundred.

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Speaker 3: You read that information, But.

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Speaker 2: You know they go through this article and.

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Speaker 1: They talk about how the price of an automobile has

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Speaker 1: risen to the point where the average person simply can't

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Speaker 1: afford to participate, and so you do wonder what the

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Speaker 1: future of the automobile industry is. According to this article,

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Speaker 1: new car sales among households with annual incomes of seventy

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Speaker 1: five to one hundred and fifty thousand dollars, which certainly

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Speaker 1: doesn't make you rich as a household income have fallen

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Speaker 1: seven percent since two thousand and nineteen. So we'll see

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Speaker 1: what happens. All right, let's take a break. Ethan's in

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Speaker 1: for Casey. When we come back, we're going to get

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Speaker 1: back into all of this venezuela stuff.

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Speaker 2: So much great audio.

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Speaker 1: The Democrats continue to freak out an act act absolutely ridiculous. Fetterman,

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Speaker 1: of all people, is the one guy making sense. Jim

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Speaker 1: Jordan's bringing the heat. We'll get to that and so

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Speaker 1: much more coming up next. Kettle and Casey Show ninety three,

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Speaker 1: WIBC