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Speaker 1: Why from ball Hartbiner and the Crossroads of America. It's

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Speaker 1: Tony Katz today. Pam Bondy is out as Attorney General.

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Speaker 1: And if you ask me why, I will tell you

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Speaker 1: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I have no idea what the last straw was for

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Speaker 2: President Trump to make this decision. I can tell you

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Speaker 2: that I, as an observer, have not been happy with

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Speaker 2: the Attorney General the way she's handled Epstein, the binders

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Speaker 2: and the influencers and the garbage. And I think the

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Speaker 2: guys over at South Park got it right with all

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Speaker 2: the brown nosing. Sorry, I think you could be supportive

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Speaker 2: of the president and respectable of the president and not

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Speaker 2: be seen as ridiculous as Pam Bondy was. And I'm disappointed.

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Speaker 2: I had real eye homes for Pambondy. She was the

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Speaker 2: Attorney general in Florida for eight years, competent and capable.

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Speaker 2: She's far better choice, I said, than Matt Gates.

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Speaker 3: Oh.

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Speaker 2: I still hold by that, And there are people saying

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Speaker 2: America demands that Matt Gates be the new Attorney General

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Speaker 2: like he should have been. Nobody nobody wants Matt Gates.

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Speaker 2: One American News doesn't want Matt Gates. Nobody wants Matt Gates. Oh,

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Speaker 2: I know you're gonna be offended for Matt Gates, for him, Okay,

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Speaker 2: all right, not you. You know those people feel free

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Speaker 2: tell him, I said, so he doesn't care, he doesn't

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Speaker 2: know who I am. Fine, you could tell him, though,

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Speaker 2: I would tell him, no one wants him to be

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Speaker 2: a g It was a bad idea to begin with.

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Speaker 2: I did think Pam Bondy would be far better than

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Speaker 2: what she was. What is it about her that I

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Speaker 2: say to you, is is a shame? Well? The lack

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Speaker 2: of force. Certainly there's a conversation about prosecutions. Now. I

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Speaker 2: don't think that Trump is actually a revenge guy, and

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Speaker 2: I do point to the Hillary Clinton thing as proof

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Speaker 2: of that. Lock her up and lock her up, remember

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Speaker 2: the chance? And how dare they? And then he gets

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Speaker 2: it off. He's like, eh, Hillary, we got other things

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Speaker 2: to do. Hillary. Why is anybody? And I think a

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Speaker 2: lot of maga folks said, what the bloody heck? So

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Speaker 2: maybe it was indeed that there were some people who

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Speaker 2: and I would agree, and you might agree, and you

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Speaker 2: might agree on more than I. Where are the prosecutions?

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Speaker 2: And then you take a look at some of the prosecutions,

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Speaker 2: and they didn't really go so great. You're like, what

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Speaker 2: the bloody heck nonsense for COCTA? Crazy?

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Speaker 4: Is this?

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Speaker 2: Can this Justice Department do anything at all? Maybe that

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Speaker 2: weight on the President's mind. I could see. I could

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Speaker 2: see that. I think you could too. Maybe it was Epstein.

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Speaker 2: Now I've already had people pushing back on me on this.

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Speaker 2: All the Epstein files are released. Tony Epstein doesn't matter

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Speaker 2: for clarity, because I don't like it when we fight.

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Speaker 2: Trump handled Epstein wrong from the beginning. He misread the

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Speaker 2: entire base. This doesn't matter. Why are we paying attention

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Speaker 2: to it. It's a hoax, I tell you, a hoax.

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Speaker 2: I say, oh, holy hell, what a mistake. And he

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Speaker 2: didn't even bother correcting it, didn't even try to correct it,

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Speaker 2: where it's so rare to see the president make this

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Speaker 2: kind of mistake and have a total mystery of his

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Speaker 2: base because the base said no, no, it matters quite a bit.

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Speaker 2: There were some true sycophants who will do anything. They're

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Speaker 2: in that Pam BONDI, Hey you got something on your

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Speaker 2: nose kind of world. They're like, yeah, Trump said this

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Speaker 2: doesn't matter. Why you're still paying attention to it? Because

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Speaker 2: children were sex trafficked and I want to know who

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Speaker 2: goes to jail. Can I help you? And if you

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Speaker 2: I don't think I want you in my house. You're

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Speaker 2: not good enough to know me. You're sure as I'm

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Speaker 2: not good enough to listen. Go somewhere else. You don't

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Speaker 2: think we should go after sex traffickers, people who might

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Speaker 2: have been on the island and abusing children with Jeffrey Epstein.

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Speaker 2: I want them in jail. Don't care about their name,

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Speaker 2: don't care about their daddy, don't care about their money,

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Speaker 2: Who gives a crap jail? That's the way the rational

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Speaker 2: It's just a leftist hoax. You gave it to them.

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Speaker 2: You gave it to them time and again. You gave

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Speaker 2: And then here comes Pam Bondy. Well, we're gonna be

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Speaker 2: releasing files on Epstein and we're really going to clean

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Speaker 2: this up, and people said great, And then you grabbed

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Speaker 2: some influencers, influencers, dear God, and you had them parading

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Speaker 2: in front of the White House with binders. What the

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Speaker 2: heck is that? Binders? You know who had binders, Mitt

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Speaker 2: Romney and gring John Pierre. You give them people binders.

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Speaker 2: What the bloody heck are you doing? And you know

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Speaker 2: within the binders I believe, I believe in the French

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Speaker 2: nothing in there that we didn't already know. What the

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Speaker 2: hell is this? You make this big show and they're

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Speaker 2: waiving their binders, look at us, We're somebody, okay, but

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Speaker 2: was embarrassing. Now I am a believer that Trump can

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Speaker 2: handle mistakes. I'm a believer that Trump is okay with

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Speaker 2: mistakes being made, people learning from it and getting better

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Speaker 2: at it. I have never viewed him as a if

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Speaker 2: if you are Jennifer Lopez's personal assistant than if you

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Speaker 2: got a real issue with that. Embarrassment. Preventable embarrassment. Huh.

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Speaker 2: embarrassment happening is assigned to him of weakness, and that

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Speaker 2: is not where he lives. I'm not saying anything rude.

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Speaker 2: That is who he is. Can we all act like

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Speaker 2: move things in different ways. Joe Biden he didn't care

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Speaker 2: if he was embarrassed. Joe Biden also didn't know where

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Speaker 2: Got noted that one of the weird things about Bondie

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Speaker 2: prepared for it not to go Trump's way, and maybe

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Speaker 2: all persons born in the United States. So they're gonna say,

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Speaker 2: And they're going to say if the Second Amendment says

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Speaker 2: engaged in this. Listen, we might lose this, come back

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Speaker 2: do think that it is written wrong. And when you

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Speaker 2: back to Obamacare, the facocta nonsense of Obama Care, Well,

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Speaker 2: oh you do, oh well, then it's a tax. There

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Speaker 2: was always a tax. Of course, it's a tax. It's

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Speaker 2: the John Roberts Court said, if Congress wants to change

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Speaker 2: Alito and Thomas. I did wonder the after the ACLU's case,

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Speaker 2: I don't see it. I'll be surprised. I can't wait

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Speaker 2: Pam really enjoyed the time together. You fight it. There

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Speaker 2: The Daily Mail, which is known to lie, is saying

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Speaker 2: that it's because she leaked information to Congressman Eric Swalwell

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Speaker 2: about possible issues with him and this spy, etc. I

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Speaker 2: But there is an opportunity in all things, and you

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Speaker 7: But the first second track that funds ice and border

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Speaker 8: Hi, I'm Dianasato. We are coming on the air with

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Speaker 8: what do we know so far?

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Speaker 3: And what we do know is this was a two

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Speaker 3: Their radar is one hundred percent annihilated. The President saying,

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Speaker 2: Undoubtedly true, It's a dangerous mission. Tony Katz. Tony Katz today,

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Speaker 2: it's often weird to see the political left, except it's

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Speaker 2: done tremendous damage to them, tremendous tremendous damage. They're not done.

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Speaker 2: They're not done until they're done. These are mobile missile launchers,

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Speaker 2: what happened. A million things could have happened here. You

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Speaker 2: We're gonna keep our eye on this. I'm going to

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Speaker 2: not It's not that I'm going to avoid the story.

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Speaker 2: I want to make sure I shared it, But I

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Speaker 2: don't think we're going to know much. Remember, Iran is

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Speaker 2: And of course, while you have the IRGC desperate to find,

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Speaker 2: do you mean to see? I told you it's a war?

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Speaker 2: What possibly could you have said? That people can get

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Speaker 2: which brings us back to this kind of original argument,

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Speaker 2: There's no moment. There's no moment. Well, it must be

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Speaker 2: you think it matters that Marjorie Taylor Green is screaming

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Speaker 2: they would attack South Korea, Well they would attack this

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Speaker 2: or that one. Well, we don't want that, so we'll

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Speaker 2: just try and keep them at bay. And by keeping

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Speaker 2: them at bay, it's a really interesting post by someone

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Speaker 2: named gummy m I gummy Bear seven thirty seven. That's

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Speaker 2: certain handle on Twitter. I don't know why pretty Hume

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Speaker 2: share days like this is interesting and it's an interesting

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Speaker 2: point of view that because you did not take out

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Speaker 2: the North Koreans, because you did not stop them for

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Speaker 2: fear that they would engage militarily here, send people in there,

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Speaker 2: or engage violence here, you gave them the room to

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Speaker 2: develop a nuclear weapon, and now you have to deal

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Speaker 2: with the nuclear in North Korea because you weren't willing

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Speaker 2: to do the thing, because you were so worried about, Oh,

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Speaker 2: they're going to do this. It's bad or it's worse.

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Speaker 2: Which one do you want? It's bad or it's worse,

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Speaker 2: Which one do you want? That's the question, and that's

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Speaker 2: a really important one. If you take a look at Iran,

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Speaker 2: Iran constantly was engaging the saber rattling, engaging in levels

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Speaker 2: of threat, wanting to threaten neighbors so nobody would move

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Speaker 2: to and no one move against them, So they could

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Speaker 2: then get a nuclear weapon, and once they did, they

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Speaker 2: would hold the entire region hostage. They could do anything

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Speaker 2: anywhere with impunity. What are you gonna do? Which is

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Speaker 2: why we aren't smacking the Russians around visit the Ukraine

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Speaker 2: because of those nuclear weapons. They don't have a military

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Speaker 2: that could do anything. They could throw bodies at a problem,

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Speaker 2: and they could certainly continue to wear down and grind

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Speaker 2: down the Ukrainians. They don't have a military worth a

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Speaker 2: good Holy dang, they've got some missiles that could do

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Speaker 2: some really bad destruction to the globe. So if you

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Speaker 2: don't take out this regime, this threat that is the Iranians,

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Speaker 2: you give them the room to create the nuclear weapons.

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Speaker 2: So for those people bad or worse, well, it doesn't

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Speaker 2: have to be like that. We don't have to care

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Speaker 2: about them. Okay, eight dollars a gallon gas, It is

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Speaker 2: your move, your move. And this is why we talk

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Speaker 2: about adults, and this is why votes matter so much,

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Speaker 2: and this is why the childlike problem of no more

466
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Speaker 2: forever wars and all the rest doesn't actually do anything.

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Speaker 2: I agree, we shouldn't go to war for light and

468
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Speaker 2: transient causes. We shouldn't have entanglements for light and transient causes.

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Speaker 2: But when we do, we should act decisively. We destroy

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Speaker 2: the enemy until they are dead, and then we go home.

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Speaker 2: No nation building reports right now say that one service

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Speaker 2: member has been rescued after this US fighter jet was

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Speaker 2: shot down over southwest Iran. This multiple reports now saying this.

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Speaker 2: This is good. Let us see both of them rescued,

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Speaker 2: returned safely on Tony Katz. This is Tony Katz today.

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Speaker 2: A very happy Easter one and all. Today is good

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Speaker 2: Friday for those who indeed celebrate. And as we have

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Speaker 2: seen and we've discussed, King Charles is going to be

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Speaker 2: the last. Not I'm sorry, it'll be King William who'll

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Speaker 2: be the last King of England. George will never be

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Speaker 2: King of England. Tony Kats, Tony Kats today. Why do

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Speaker 2: I say this? Because it was announced that King Charles

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Speaker 2: will not be giving an Easter greeting. There will be

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Speaker 2: no Easter message from the king. Why not? Why no

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Speaker 2: Easter message from the king. There was a message from

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Speaker 2: King Charles for Ramanon. Why not Easter. Well, there are

487
00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:54,800
Speaker 2: only so many reasons for such a thing, and one

488
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Speaker 2: of the reasons could be you don't want to upset

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Speaker 2: what is now a dominant force in your own name.

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Speaker 2: If England does not do something about Islamists in their nation,

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Speaker 2: William will become king just because of timing, and George

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Speaker 2: the eldest son will never be king and the Church

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Speaker 2: of England will fall. Now I want to say for

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Speaker 2: the record that we have been discussing this for a

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Speaker 2: while now. We have been discussing this before anybody. No

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Speaker 2: Easter message, no Eastern message from the king. You're talking

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Speaker 2: about the fundamental of Christianity, the basis. There's no message.

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Speaker 2: You lead the church. There's no message. You're telling a

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Speaker 2: story there. Now. I have always known King Charles except

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Speaker 2: for being able to say Camilla is my girl and

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Speaker 2: sticking through all the abuse he took post Diana that

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Speaker 2: I respect, but as a leader week outrageously left, outrageously daft.

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Speaker 2: And that's why I've always discussed this. As Prince William,

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Speaker 2: this is his task, whether he likes it or not,

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Speaker 2: to do what his grandmother did not and his father

506
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Speaker 2: absolutely cannot save England from those who you have invited

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Speaker 2: into the country to ruin you. I it has to

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Speaker 2: be him, there's no one else. I do not know

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Speaker 2: if he's up to the task. I do know. If

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Speaker 2: it's not him, it will not happen. Britain will fall.

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Speaker 2: And yes, it is not lost on me that over

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Speaker 2: the there in England they literally held no king's rallies

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Speaker 2: when they have a king. I mean, the jokes right themselves, everybody.

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Speaker 2: It's not like you have to work hard. All you

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Speaker 2: have to do is observe and be like, huh ah,

516
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Speaker 2: that's funny. And there it is. Prince William will be

517
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Speaker 2: King William, and he will be the last king unless

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Speaker 2: he does something about this because his father has submitted

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Speaker 2: and capitulated. There's no respect in that at all. This

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Speaker 2: is Tony Katz today.

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Speaker 1: Why from vall Hartbeiner and the Crossroads of America, it's.

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Speaker 2: Tony Katz today. Can we talk about this TDS stuff

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Speaker 2: for a moment. This trumpets derangement syndrome, which is very,

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Speaker 2: very incredibly an out ageously real Tony Katz. Tony Katz today,

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Speaker 2: Good to be here, good to be with You find

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Speaker 2: everything I do over at Tony Katz dot com. I'm

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Speaker 2: gonna give you two examples. Oh and there was some

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Speaker 2: serious bleeping out that had to be done here. And

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Speaker 2: it starts with Katie Kirk. That's right, formerly America's Sweetheart

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Speaker 2: Katie Kirk of The Today Show when she was hosting

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Speaker 2: with Bryant Gumbels. That's how long ago is She's talking

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Speaker 2: about President Trump and how he's trying to do things

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Speaker 2: with the midterm elections. Well in her own voice, Well.

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Speaker 6: You know, obviously there are a lot of people who

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Speaker 6: are concerned about all these actions that are kind of

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Speaker 6: happening sporadically. But when you put them together as a whole,

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Speaker 6: they seem to indicate a real effort to excuse my friend.

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Speaker 6: But with our lessons, Sean and I can say that

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Speaker 6: on substack, not on network news.

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Speaker 2: Look, what Trump does to people just makes them out

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Speaker 2: of their minds. Well, Tony, it's just some cursing. It's

542
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Speaker 2: the way people talk. You know, it's no big deal.

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Speaker 2: I accept the basic premise. Listen. I am a man

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Speaker 2: who has been known to drop a word or two before,

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Speaker 2: never on air. I am still clear for my entire

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Speaker 2: career for never having done this on air. I have

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Speaker 2: had feeling hosts cursed before. I had a producer once

548
00:37:39,800 --> 00:37:44,520
Speaker 2: cursed before. Richard Dreyfus cursed on my show. All true stories,

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00:37:44,840 --> 00:37:48,520
Speaker 2: not me. I do not know how I have managed

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Speaker 2: this thus far. I will tell you that sometimes, like

551
00:37:54,040 --> 00:37:56,920
Speaker 2: I'm on a roll and I'm moving on something and

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00:37:56,960 --> 00:37:59,000
Speaker 2: something will come into my head and I will just

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Speaker 2: stop because it's like at the back of the skull,

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00:38:02,480 --> 00:38:06,040
Speaker 2: right and I'm like, nope, gotta move that. If I'm

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Speaker 2: scrolling through something like on Twitter and someone's cursing, I

556
00:38:08,520 --> 00:38:11,759
Speaker 2: immediately have to move away from it so I don't

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Speaker 2: see the I don't even see the words, so it

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Speaker 2: doesn't somehow percolate up somewhere else and come out elsewhere.

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Speaker 2: That's how I try to avoid those things, and I do.

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Speaker 2: Even my events, I work ninety nine percent clean. I

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Speaker 2: will tell you my last event, which was February. In

562
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Speaker 2: the February in Indianapolis, I cursed once, very end of

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Speaker 2: the show, very end of the show. Literally I said something.

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Speaker 2: It was part of a sentence, and I said thank you,

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Speaker 2: good night, and that was it. That was the only

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Speaker 2: time try my best to work clean. My point here

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Speaker 2: is that, first, never mind the cursing. Trump's effort is

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Speaker 2: to blank with the midterms. What do you mean blank

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Speaker 2: with the midterms. Let's call it screw, Let's call it

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Speaker 2: screw with the midterms. You mean when his effort is

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Speaker 2: to win the midterms. No one is more trying to

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00:39:03,719 --> 00:39:06,640
Speaker 2: screw with the midterms than the political left. They don't

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Speaker 2: even think you should have an ID to vote. Who's

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Speaker 2: screwing more with the midterms? The guy who wants people

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Speaker 2: to have an ID to prove that they're citizens, to

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Speaker 2: prove that they're voters, or the people who don't want

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Speaker 2: an ID and think anybody who shows up can vote

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Speaker 2: as many times as they want. I guess who is

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Speaker 2: more trying to screw with the midterms. I my argument

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Speaker 2: is pretty sound, wouldn't you say? Because it's your argument too.

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Speaker 2: But this TDS continues with James Carvell. Now I want

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Speaker 2: to say about James Carvill, the rage in Cajun the

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Speaker 2: Democratic strategist that based on his own speaking about President Trump,

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Speaker 2: we should really take a look and see whether or

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Speaker 2: not James Carvill has syphal us. What what I say?

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Speaker 9: What?

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Speaker 2: No, no, no, he said that about Donald Trump. He

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Speaker 2: said that the president is suffering from slurred language, mysterious

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Speaker 2: blotches on his hands, and stupidity, and therefore he has syphilis.

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Speaker 2: That's what he said. He's not a doctor. You don't

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Speaker 2: get to analyze somebody like this. Diagnose somebody. Nothing is

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Speaker 2: more awful. You Well, I saw them for two minutes,

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Speaker 2: and I'm going to diagnose them. Democrats don't care. I

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Speaker 2: for all I talked about Joe Biden. You know what

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Speaker 2: I said. That guy ain't okay. That's not diagnosis. I

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Speaker 2: didn't know what he had. All I knew is that

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Speaker 2: guy was being led by the easter Bunney. That guy

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Speaker 2: forgot where he was. That guy is talking to nobody.

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Speaker 2: That guy has no idea the question being asked of him.

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Speaker 2: That guy can't complete a sentence. There's something wrong with

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Speaker 2: that guy. That guy's not okay. Diagnose How would I know.

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Speaker 2: I'm not a doctor. I saw four episodes of Doogie

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Speaker 2: Howser MD, and admittedly I do own some rubber gloves.

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Speaker 2: Don't ask some of your business, but it doesn't make

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Speaker 2: me a doctor. But there was James Carvil saying that

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Speaker 2: the president had syphilis. So I assume Carvel has syphilis.

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Speaker 2: Because if we're going to talk about people who slur

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Speaker 2: their speech and have the stupidity, if James Carvel isn't

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Speaker 2: at the top of the list, I don't know who

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Speaker 2: is and James, if you have a problem with this,

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Speaker 2: well that's too bad for you. I don't care if

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Speaker 2: you have a problem with it. You think I care

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Speaker 2: if you have a problem with what I say? Do

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Speaker 2: you think I care of? Like I was talking in

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Speaker 2: my morning show about the comic Theovonne. Theovonn is entitled

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Speaker 2: to say anything that he wants to say, But every

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Speaker 2: time he's blaming Israel for the war, and he's like,

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Speaker 2: you know, Trump's the terrorist. You think I care what

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Speaker 2: Theo Vaughn has to say. I'm getting my political cues

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Speaker 2: from him. I wasn't getting my political cues from him

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Speaker 2: before he was a supporter of Trump. His podcast could

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Speaker 2: have helped turn some people to get Trump elected. I

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Speaker 2: won't deny that we're getting my political cues from him. Ah.

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Speaker 2: Hell no, you think I care if he likes me

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Speaker 2: or doesn't like me? Do you think he cares if

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Speaker 2: I like him or don't like him. I don't know him.

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Speaker 2: This isn't a question of like, it's a question of

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Speaker 2: Israel drags America into this war is just so stupid.

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Speaker 2: It's fundamentally flawed on its base as a concept, it

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Speaker 2: doesn't hold any water. But it's what you do when

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Speaker 2: you don't know how else to dig into the information.

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Speaker 2: It's low minded crap. And it's not just him. Hey,

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Speaker 2: Megan Kelly, what do I care? What do you care?

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Speaker 2: I didn't say this Shomdi platformed. I don't believe that.

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Speaker 2: But the fundamental of them pushing some kind of logical

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Speaker 2: notion embarrassing. And there's more and more data to show

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Speaker 2: how embarrassing it all is. The UAE is now in

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Speaker 2: the fight against Iran. How did Israel manipulate the United

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Speaker 2: Arab Emirates to do this? That's why it's all so ridiculous.

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00:43:22,400 --> 00:43:26,600
Speaker 2: It's all so nonsense. This was about Iran and a

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Speaker 2: nuclear weapon and what they would do to the region

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Speaker 2: and how it would affect all things. You think oil

643
00:43:32,160 --> 00:43:37,120
Speaker 2: prices are affected now, oh honey, booboo, you ain't got

644
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Speaker 2: a clue as to how things could be affected. It's

645
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Speaker 2: embarrassing these people embarrassing. But again, Nazi platforms just going

646
00:43:48,760 --> 00:43:52,359
Speaker 2: to recognize when they're wrong. You can't say that they're wrong,

647
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Speaker 2: of course I can't. Well, they've got more followers or

648
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Speaker 2: listeners than you. Who gives a crap? James Carvel's a

649
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Speaker 2: damn fool. James carr is an angry old man. I

650
00:44:02,280 --> 00:44:06,399
Speaker 2: wouldn't invite to the Thanksgiving dinner. And one can wonder if,

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Speaker 2: based on his analysis, doctor Carvill of Donald Trump and

652
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Speaker 2: slurred language and stupidity, whether or not Carvill has syphilis.

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Speaker 2: Those were his words about Trump. I want to know

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Speaker 2: if I can apply them to him. But James Carvill

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Speaker 2: is probably amongst the top five with the Trump derangement syndrome.

656
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Speaker 2: But I want you to understand what his derangement is.

657
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Speaker 2: His derangement is hell bent on revenge. People often talk

658
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Speaker 2: about Trump and wanting to be revenge and I was

659
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Speaker 2: actually on Newsmax earlier today and the question was did

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Speaker 2: Trump get rid of Pambondy as Attorney General because she

661
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Speaker 2: wasn't moving fast enough to get revenge on his political enemies.

662
00:44:47,960 --> 00:44:50,080
Speaker 2: Trump has never shown himself to be a revenge guy.

663
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Speaker 2: Remember it was Hillary Clinton. Lock her up, lock her up,

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Speaker 2: lock her up. He gets an office. Oh, let's forget

665
00:44:54,840 --> 00:44:59,160
Speaker 2: about Hillary. People said, what the hell man? Oh maga,

666
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Speaker 2: He is more interested in that than I think Trump is.

667
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Speaker 2: But James Carville makes himself a little video and in

668
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Speaker 2: the video he loses, not only loses his mind, with

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Speaker 2: the cursing, with the derangement. But he's very clear democrats,

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Speaker 2: and Democrats have made this clear. They're in this for revenge.

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Speaker 2: They win, it's revenge time.

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Speaker 4: You're gonna be very very lonely, very lonely, and you're

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00:45:27,440 --> 00:45:31,320
Speaker 4: gonna be left with sick of fans and you have

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Speaker 4: met And don't even get me started as to what's

675
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Speaker 4: going to happen to Pete Hesmith. I don't think Pete

676
00:45:39,360 --> 00:45:48,080
Speaker 4: Hebsmith realizes how much he's despised in those five rinks. Pete, deaf.

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Speaker 4: People out have notes, that people out have diaries. Everything

678
00:45:51,960 --> 00:45:56,560
Speaker 4: that you've done is going to come forth. Understand that

679
00:45:57,080 --> 00:46:01,160
Speaker 4: trust no one. They hate you can't stand you.

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Speaker 2: He sounds like a Bond villain. That's what he sounds like.

681
00:46:06,680 --> 00:46:10,360
Speaker 2: And also it's heg seth. He can't pronounce hegseeth. Again,

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Speaker 2: my syphilest argument seems to be holding.

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Speaker 4: And of course they long people and they will buy

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Speaker 4: that time. But they also patriotic people, and they will

685
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Speaker 4: respond to legally issued subpoenas induces tecum that means documents, diaries, notes, everything. Yeah,

686
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Speaker 4: they're coming after you, Pete, They're coming after you. It's

687
00:46:33,960 --> 00:46:39,840
Speaker 4: your fake ass macho bull bombing schools and Iran and

688
00:46:40,120 --> 00:46:45,439
Speaker 4: crap like that. But Trump, about a year from now,

689
00:46:46,840 --> 00:46:50,319
Speaker 4: you're gonna look at it and you're gonna see all

690
00:46:50,320 --> 00:46:54,120
Speaker 4: of the exposure that you have, your phone calls and

691
00:46:54,200 --> 00:46:58,400
Speaker 4: not gonna be returned. It's foreignally to about you, because

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Speaker 4: you're gonna be a lame dark You're not going to

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Speaker 4: get any judicial nominees through. Forget about it. Just okay,

694
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Speaker 4: forget about it. And then you're going to have what

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Speaker 4: we referred to as a come to Jesus moment. You're

696
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Speaker 4: going to assess where you are, even through your cloudy, stupid,

697
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Speaker 4: fat addled brain, you're going to figure out, I got

698
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Speaker 4: to get the hell out of here, and you're going

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Speaker 4: to cut a deal and you're going to resign and

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Speaker 4: JD is going to pardon you. You've got to pardon

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Speaker 4: a lot of other people. But he's a creepy, ambitious

702
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Speaker 4: little twerk. He'll do whatever he can to get it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he sounds, he sounds totally totally rational and totally fine.

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Speaker 2: Trump's going to resign over what for what? Well, this

705
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Speaker 2: is where we get into the James Carvill revenge fantasy

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Speaker 2: that he lays out here in.

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Speaker 4: The White House. But they can't pardon you for state crimes.

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Speaker 4: They can't pardon you in the international criminal court. That

709
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Speaker 4: can't pardon you for any of this, and it can't

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Speaker 4: foreign you from civil Just right now, your life as

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00:48:12,719 --> 00:48:15,279
Speaker 4: you knew it is getting ready to end. And how

712
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Speaker 4: about one of these people that want you to get sick?

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Speaker 4: Oh no, I want you to be fully cause I

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Speaker 4: want you to watch that television on election night when

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Speaker 4: the American people tell you how much they can't stand

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Speaker 4: the sight of you. I want you to see it,

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Speaker 4: and I want you to feel the pain. And then

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Speaker 4: I want the congressional people come in and tell you, sir, sir,

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Speaker 4: you don't have any support left on the hill. They're

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Speaker 4: all turning on you, and they're going to turn you

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Speaker 4: in and you're going to have a terrible, terrible existence.

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Speaker 2: They're going to turn him in. Huh again for what?

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Speaker 2: And this is where Carvel just well, he lays out

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Speaker 2: where Democrats are at.

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Speaker 4: Listen to me, Trump, I'm gonna tell you. If fat

726
00:49:06,880 --> 00:49:09,480
Speaker 4: gonna ask something, you're getting ready to get the living

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00:49:09,719 --> 00:49:13,160
Speaker 4: crap kicked out of you. You don't know, because they

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Speaker 4: haven't really told you.

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Speaker 2: Let me tell you something.

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Speaker 4: They're gonna they're gonna start breaking the news to your

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Speaker 4: kind of gently, and you're gonna sit there in wonder

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Speaker 4: what it feels like to be pushing the mouth by

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Speaker 4: Mike Tyson when you won't know, because it's quite one

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Speaker 4: thing to imagine what it's like to get punched in

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Speaker 4: the mouth by Mike Tyson. It's another thing to ask

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Speaker 4: you get punched in the mouth by Mike Tyson. And

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Speaker 4: that's what's gonna happen to you in November.

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Speaker 2: Well, Republicans might lose the midterms, and certainly the way

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Speaker 2: they're fighting, they don't even act like they want to win.

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Speaker 2: But already with the violence.

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Speaker 4: And now let me tell you about let's talk about

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Speaker 4: your future, your post November fifture. First, people are not

743
00:49:59,600 --> 00:50:02,640
Speaker 4: gonna work earn your phone calls. They're going to correctly

744
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Speaker 4: think yesterday, Yeah, they'll say, well, he's got two years left,

745
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Speaker 4: he can do damage. No one gives about him. The

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Speaker 4: Democrats are going to investigate you to no end. I

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Speaker 4: would like to introduce you to the Center Sheldon White House,

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Speaker 4: deep Rhode Island, because it is a lot of people's

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Speaker 4: view by the way, and constin. Jefferson said to Shuman,

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Speaker 4: they're going to go down to the White House on

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Speaker 4: November tenth, and then you're gonna have some stiff photo

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Speaker 4: of them sitting there talking about collegiality in corporation. Leave

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Speaker 4: that boost. Then they're gonna start going after you. Then

754
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Speaker 4: they're gonna start figuring out where all the money stolen is.

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Speaker 4: Then they're going to go after your stupid jackass kids

756
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Speaker 4: and their spouses and all other boosts that you see,

757
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Speaker 4: and they're gonna investigate you. And then when it comes

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Speaker 4: to this stuff you're doing in the run, I got

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Speaker 4: to tell you, you get really really really close to war

760
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Speaker 4: crimes here. You're probably going to cross the line. And

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Speaker 4: the one thing that Democrats are going to insist on

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Speaker 4: in the twenty twenty eight election is that if you're

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Speaker 4: indicted by the international courts, and I think that's in

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Speaker 4: the harbor, hey go somewhere in the Netherlands. We're gonna

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Speaker 4: protect your ass. I canna protect you. Understand that. Then

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Speaker 4: it's all gonna come and they're all going to turn

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Speaker 4: on you. And you know who's gonna turn on you?

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Speaker 4: What's left of the Republican sentences. It may be forty

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Speaker 4: three to forty five of them left. Now the House

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Speaker 4: is going to vote to impeach you. That's you're going

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Speaker 4: to be impeached in twenty twenty seven. Now you say

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Speaker 4: to vote to convict. You know, don't be surprised if

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Speaker 4: the number sixty seven doesn't get real because these centers

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Speaker 4: can't stand you. The Republican sentances, they can't stand you.

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Speaker 4: They have to be there because of their politics back

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Speaker 4: in the States. But he's going to be apparent in

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Speaker 4: him that you're a loser, are you?

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Speaker 2: And that's James carvill with the cursing, and we're going

779
00:52:15,760 --> 00:52:19,640
Speaker 2: after your kids, and everybody hates you. I've seen enough

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Speaker 2: of politics to know that when people don't have something

781
00:52:21,800 --> 00:52:25,560
Speaker 2: in their political best interest, they do move. That's nothing new,

782
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Speaker 2: there's nothing new in the slightest I couldn't figure out

783
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Speaker 2: when Carvel put this out, was he trying to rile

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Speaker 2: up Republicans to go vote, because I don't think anything

785
00:52:36,320 --> 00:52:39,279
Speaker 2: will move Republicans to more vote than him. Just lay

786
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Speaker 2: and loose. This is who we are. We're revenge fantasy

787
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Speaker 2: freaks with no policies whatsoever that will benefit America. We

788
00:52:47,640 --> 00:52:50,719
Speaker 2: just want revenge. This is our policy. This is how

789
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Speaker 2: foaming at the mouth we are. Yeah, the Trump arrangement

790
00:52:54,680 --> 00:53:00,759
Speaker 2: syndrome's top is real, very very real. And you better

791
00:53:00,800 --> 00:53:04,840
Speaker 2: believe that if Democrats win, they'll take the House on

792
00:53:04,920 --> 00:53:07,360
Speaker 2: January third, and they will impeach on January third. For

793
00:53:07,480 --> 00:53:11,680
Speaker 2: what doesn't matter. They don't care about the what they

794
00:53:11,719 --> 00:53:14,080
Speaker 2: only care about the win. They only care about the

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Speaker 2: destruction at all costs. Also, I don't actually think James

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Speaker 2: Carville has syphilis, and anybody who wants to take that

797
00:53:22,520 --> 00:53:26,040
Speaker 2: seriously would be a fool. There. I've covered what the

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Speaker 2: lawyers told me to cover, or at least what I

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Speaker 2: assume they would tell me to cover. I'm Tony Kats.

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Speaker 2: This is Tony Katz today. So will Todd blanche be

801
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Speaker 2: the new Attorney General? Don't know? Do not know? Names

802
00:53:38,880 --> 00:53:42,360
Speaker 2: been bandied about. I learned today, as I said, I

803
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Speaker 2: was on Newsmax earlier that the former acting Attorney General

804
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Speaker 2: of New Jersey, Alena Habba, who was Trump's personal lawyer,

805
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Speaker 2: she was there in the White House today in the

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Speaker 2: Oval speaking with President Trump. I doubt will be her.

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Speaker 2: I would assume that she has too much baggage. Now,

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Speaker 2: I'm not saying anything bad about her at all. I

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Speaker 2: don't know the woman. I haven't been opposed to anything

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Speaker 2: she's done. Actually, I just have to assume with the

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Speaker 2: way things played out in New Jersey, that's more of

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Speaker 2: a fight than I think the President's going to want

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Speaker 2: in the Senate for confirmation. Tony Katz, Tony Katz today,

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Speaker 2: good to be here. The Lee Zelden conversation comes up.

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Speaker 2: And I think that he is a good conversation, the

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Speaker 2: current administrator of the EPA. But Alex Swoyer, who's with

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Speaker 2: the Washington Times, and she was actually one of the

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Speaker 2: panelists when I was hosting for Sean Spicer this week,

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Speaker 2: brought up Harmitt Dylan and Harmat Dylan. She as the

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Speaker 2: US Attorney General Assistant Attorney Attorney General for the Civil

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Speaker 2: Rights Division. Yeah, she'd be interesting. She would be an

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Speaker 2: interesting choice. I thought that was a nice mention from

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Speaker 2: Alex Swawyer. There, look for her name Lee Elden, and

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Speaker 2: look for her. Could be Todd Blanche It could be

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Speaker 2: a center like Senator Mike Lee out of Utah. So

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Speaker 2: there are some names that you could consider. Which ways

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Speaker 2: is he looking that I don't know at all? What

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Speaker 2: is it that he wants out of an ag. I'm

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Speaker 2: Tony Katz. This is Tony Katz today. So it's a

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Speaker 2: very exciting day. I know we've got three more things

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Speaker 2: to get to. I'm going to get to them. But

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Speaker 2: it's an exciting day because I am in real time

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Speaker 2: watching ups deliver my meat. I'm not going to apologize.

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Speaker 2: I said what I said, Tony Kats Tony Kats today.

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Speaker 2: gotten a quarter cow from them before and it was great,

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Speaker 2: and it's twenty one day aged and the ground beef,

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Speaker 2: it's the best burger in the world. The steaks are amazing,

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Speaker 2: more of this. I ordered a full cow. I ordered

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Speaker 2: a complete cow and there's like upwards of six hundred

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Speaker 2: I I did have to get another chest trauser. I

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Speaker 2: have one. I got another one there. I don't know

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00:57:20,240 --> 00:57:22,280
Speaker 2: if I'm going to need a third because I thought

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Speaker 2: about getting like the super large ones, like the eighteen

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Speaker 2: cubic futters, and I asked myself, if something goes wrong

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Speaker 2: with it, everything now is a problem. Would not be

868
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Speaker 2: better if only some of it had a problem, so

869
00:57:33,360 --> 00:57:39,520
Speaker 2: I am more partial to the smaller ones. So in between,

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Speaker 2: like the seven and nine cubic foot eight point nine

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Speaker 2: is usually what they what they call it, and so

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Speaker 2: that's that's what I've got some getting another one of those,

873
00:57:47,960 --> 00:57:52,720
Speaker 2: and I should between the two, I should be okay,

874
00:57:53,200 --> 00:57:58,680
Speaker 2: probably not of hoping, not because because nothing says love

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00:57:59,360 --> 00:58:03,080
Speaker 2: like freeze full of meat. Put that on a T shirt.

876
00:58:03,680 --> 00:58:09,320
Speaker 2: Happy Valentine's Day from Tony Kats today. Oh yeah, that's it.

877
00:58:09,440 --> 00:58:12,640
Speaker 2: I do have three more things. These are stories that

878
00:58:12,680 --> 00:58:15,120
Speaker 2: should be front page news. Me getting meat is not

879
00:58:15,160 --> 00:58:17,560
Speaker 2: necessarily front page Mian news, although it is very exciting

880
00:58:17,560 --> 00:58:20,960
Speaker 2: for me. These are things that should be front page news,

881
00:58:21,240 --> 00:58:24,200
Speaker 2: but they are not front page news. But I think

882
00:58:24,240 --> 00:58:28,840
Speaker 2: they're important. And we start with why we homeschool. This

883
00:58:28,920 --> 00:58:34,120
Speaker 2: is Idaho. No, Idaho is not this bright red world.

884
00:58:34,720 --> 00:58:38,840
Speaker 2: There are progressives infiltrating all the places now. Very often

885
00:58:38,880 --> 00:58:40,960
Speaker 2: when you talk about Idaho, you talk about a Texas

886
00:58:40,960 --> 00:58:43,160
Speaker 2: thing where people from California say, I can't live in

887
00:58:43,160 --> 00:58:47,120
Speaker 2: California here anymore. We ruin California, So let's move somewhere

888
00:58:47,160 --> 00:58:49,080
Speaker 2: else and try and make it like, you know, more

889
00:58:49,120 --> 00:58:51,600
Speaker 2: like California and what they do, They do it all

890
00:58:51,640 --> 00:58:54,960
Speaker 2: the time, and they ruin everything. There's a story out

891
00:58:55,000 --> 00:58:59,760
Speaker 2: that JJ Abrams star Treks, star Wars, he did the

892
00:58:59,760 --> 00:59:06,520
Speaker 2: show Lost, I believe, and he was a huge, huge contributor,

893
00:59:07,360 --> 00:59:12,200
Speaker 2: huge contributor to Karen Vass, the current mayor of Los Angeles,

894
00:59:12,360 --> 00:59:15,600
Speaker 2: and now he's moving out of LA And it is true,

895
00:59:15,600 --> 00:59:17,160
Speaker 2: and you've heard other people say it. I'm not the

896
00:59:17,160 --> 00:59:22,680
Speaker 2: first one to say it. The intolerance of the progressive

897
00:59:23,360 --> 00:59:26,600
Speaker 2: to demand policies that you live under that they would

898
00:59:26,680 --> 00:59:29,640
Speaker 2: never live under, they wouldn't be caught dead living under.

899
00:59:29,640 --> 00:59:31,880
Speaker 2: And sure enough they leave, but they support it for you,

900
00:59:32,480 --> 00:59:35,920
Speaker 2: they want it for you. These are very unloving people

901
00:59:36,920 --> 00:59:40,840
Speaker 2: for sure. No, I don't know. Maybe JJ Abrams learned,

902
00:59:40,880 --> 00:59:43,440
Speaker 2: Oh I guess this is terrible. I don't want this anymore,

903
00:59:43,440 --> 00:59:45,920
Speaker 2: and maybe he won't bring that somewhere else. But what

904
00:59:46,200 --> 00:59:48,960
Speaker 2: very often happens, invariably happens is they go to places

905
00:59:49,000 --> 00:59:51,040
Speaker 2: like Idaho, which has been a big spot for Californias

906
00:59:51,040 --> 00:59:53,360
Speaker 2: to move to. They go to Texas and they try

907
00:59:53,360 --> 00:59:57,840
Speaker 2: and make it blue. Your policy stink. They learn nothing,

908
00:59:57,880 --> 00:59:59,880
Speaker 2: they don't want to learn, they don't care to learn.

909
01:00:00,160 --> 01:00:02,400
Speaker 2: They don't need to learn. Why in the world should

910
01:00:02,440 --> 01:00:06,000
Speaker 2: I ever learn? Learning is for suckers? Let your mother learned, right,

911
01:00:06,160 --> 01:00:13,960
Speaker 2: that's them, That is ten thousand percent them. Well, this

912
01:00:14,480 --> 01:00:20,680
Speaker 2: was a state senator talking about education. I started this

913
01:00:20,720 --> 01:00:26,200
Speaker 2: by saying, this is why you homeschool. This is indeed why.

914
01:00:27,480 --> 01:00:34,240
Speaker 10: We stand instead of parent. When your children walk into

915
01:00:34,280 --> 01:00:41,280
Speaker 10: our classroom, they become ours, and we listen to their fears,

916
01:00:41,480 --> 01:00:46,600
Speaker 10: we dry their tears, we celebrate their successes, and.

917
01:00:46,560 --> 01:00:50,000
Speaker 2: Yes, we find a new way when they fail.

918
01:00:51,520 --> 01:00:56,920
Speaker 10: And as you know, throughout this country, teachers have stood

919
01:00:56,960 --> 01:01:01,760
Speaker 10: in the line of fire to shield your children, and

920
01:01:01,800 --> 01:01:05,040
Speaker 10: they would do it in a heartbeat, because those kids

921
01:01:05,040 --> 01:01:07,160
Speaker 10: in that classroom they're ours.

922
01:01:07,600 --> 01:01:08,960
Speaker 4: They're hours too.

923
01:01:09,400 --> 01:01:13,680
Speaker 2: No, they're not. They never have been, they never will be.

924
01:01:14,440 --> 01:01:17,480
Speaker 2: They are not your kids. You're trying to make this

925
01:01:17,680 --> 01:01:20,800
Speaker 2: sound like you're magnanimous or you're kind, or you're caring,

926
01:01:20,880 --> 01:01:23,400
Speaker 2: or you're more caring that you deserve more love. Far

927
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Speaker 2: from it. You sounds creepy. Now get away from my kid.

928
01:01:28,640 --> 01:01:33,520
Speaker 2: It's never your kid. We feel a responsibility for them.

929
01:01:33,960 --> 01:01:35,840
Speaker 2: We want to protect them as we want to protect

930
01:01:35,880 --> 01:01:41,640
Speaker 2: all children. Okay, I could see that they're hours, you

931
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Speaker 2: creepy freak. Her name is Janie Ward Angele King E

932
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Speaker 2: n G E l K I n G. It's creepy.

933
01:01:53,080 --> 01:01:56,120
Speaker 2: You're a creepy freak. No, it's not your kid. As

934
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Speaker 2: a matter of fact, it is so not your kid.

935
01:01:59,080 --> 01:02:02,480
Speaker 2: You're my kid, is not our kid like I would

936
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Speaker 2: ever have had a kid with you. It's such a

937
01:02:06,120 --> 01:02:09,360
Speaker 2: creepy thing to say that by saying our kids, I

938
01:02:09,360 --> 01:02:11,640
Speaker 2: think we should fight about it. And I'll fight about

939
01:02:11,640 --> 01:02:17,160
Speaker 2: it anywhere, anywhere, any day, anytime. It's my kid, I say,

940
01:02:17,240 --> 01:02:19,479
Speaker 2: let's fight. And you know who have decided to fight

941
01:02:19,840 --> 01:02:22,240
Speaker 2: parents all across the country when they started showing up

942
01:02:22,240 --> 01:02:25,000
Speaker 2: at school board meetings. So what did her ilk do?

943
01:02:25,600 --> 01:02:30,000
Speaker 2: Label them domestic terrorists? You don't get to fight. And

944
01:02:30,040 --> 01:02:32,040
Speaker 2: this is why you have to homeschool, and this is

945
01:02:32,040 --> 01:02:33,880
Speaker 2: why you have to have charters, and this is why

946
01:02:33,920 --> 01:02:36,360
Speaker 2: you have to break the teachers union into this is

947
01:02:36,360 --> 01:02:40,240
Speaker 2: why Randy Weingarten has to be unemployed. These people aren't

948
01:02:40,280 --> 01:02:44,160
Speaker 2: good enough. They don't deserve to be our to be teachers.

949
01:02:44,360 --> 01:02:48,800
Speaker 2: They shouldn't be allowed near children, and lawmakers like this

950
01:02:49,000 --> 01:02:55,280
Speaker 2: Senator ward Engelking fire her. These people are the enemy

951
01:02:55,480 --> 01:02:57,400
Speaker 2: We're not going to agree to disagree, and I'm not

952
01:02:57,400 --> 01:02:59,280
Speaker 2: going to be told that my language is too harsh.

953
01:02:59,480 --> 01:03:05,720
Speaker 2: Absolute enemy, our kids, no teacher. It's always my kid,

954
01:03:06,360 --> 01:03:12,320
Speaker 2: always till the bitter end. It is always, always, always

955
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Speaker 2: my kid. You have a job that I would view

956
01:03:16,880 --> 01:03:18,640
Speaker 2: is important? Do you have a job that I would

957
01:03:18,720 --> 01:03:22,640
Speaker 2: view is valuable? But knowing the limits of your job

958
01:03:22,720 --> 01:03:26,360
Speaker 2: is part of the value. It's not your kid. It's

959
01:03:26,440 --> 01:03:31,920
Speaker 2: always my kid. That's the story. Your job is education.

960
01:03:33,000 --> 01:03:36,160
Speaker 2: That's your job. That you wipe a tear, well maybe

961
01:03:36,200 --> 01:03:40,720
Speaker 2: in third grade. Yeah, part of the gig. Get everybody

962
01:03:40,760 --> 01:03:44,320
Speaker 2: calm down, back to it, right, managing some of the emotions,

963
01:03:44,960 --> 01:03:47,720
Speaker 2: and then back to it. The kid's never your kid.

964
01:03:48,560 --> 01:03:52,120
Speaker 2: If I am on at a park and kids are

965
01:03:52,160 --> 01:03:54,800
Speaker 2: on the playground at kids skins is knee and I'm

966
01:03:54,840 --> 01:03:57,280
Speaker 2: the one putting the band aid on helping the kid out,

967
01:03:57,960 --> 01:04:02,600
Speaker 2: still not my kid. Although one person should ask, why

968
01:04:02,760 --> 01:04:06,160
Speaker 2: is that man in a park with kids? Yes, you

969
01:04:06,200 --> 01:04:08,840
Speaker 2: cannot be a single man or by yourself in a

970
01:04:08,840 --> 01:04:11,720
Speaker 2: park with children. That's just a non starter. So let's

971
01:04:11,720 --> 01:04:14,720
Speaker 2: assume I'm there with my wife and my children, and

972
01:04:14,800 --> 01:04:16,840
Speaker 2: my wife was the one putting the band on because

973
01:04:16,840 --> 01:04:18,600
Speaker 2: I don't know where the other kid's mother is, but

974
01:04:18,960 --> 01:04:21,160
Speaker 2: she because that's probably the way it would go. Still

975
01:04:21,160 --> 01:04:27,080
Speaker 2: not her kid. These people are broken, and these people

976
01:04:27,400 --> 01:04:32,840
Speaker 2: are dangerous, and they absolutely need to be thwarted. Then

977
01:04:32,920 --> 01:04:41,240
Speaker 2: there's the story of voter Id. Now, some people noting

978
01:04:41,440 --> 01:04:46,560
Speaker 2: this very interesting speech from the late Harry Reid, and

979
01:04:46,600 --> 01:04:50,080
Speaker 2: you're like Harry Reid, the progressive Harry Reid, the radical

980
01:04:50,120 --> 01:04:55,160
Speaker 2: progressive Harry Reid who lied about Mitt Romney not paying

981
01:04:55,200 --> 01:04:58,880
Speaker 2: his taxes to help Barack Obama win an election, That

982
01:04:59,080 --> 01:05:05,040
Speaker 2: lying fraud. Well, this was Harry Reid in nineteen ninety three.

983
01:05:05,520 --> 01:05:08,480
Speaker 7: If making it easy to be an illegal alien isn't enough,

984
01:05:09,000 --> 01:05:12,360
Speaker 7: how about offering a reward for being an illegal immigrant.

985
01:05:13,400 --> 01:05:18,800
Speaker 7: No sane country would do that, right. Guess again, if

986
01:05:18,840 --> 01:05:22,120
Speaker 7: you break our laws by entering this country without permission

987
01:05:22,120 --> 01:05:26,200
Speaker 7: and give birth to a child, we reward that child

988
01:05:26,240 --> 01:05:29,840
Speaker 7: with US citizenship and guarantee a full.

989
01:05:29,640 --> 01:05:30,840
Speaker 2: Access to all public and.

990
01:05:30,800 --> 01:05:33,240
Speaker 7: Social services this society provides.

991
01:05:33,520 --> 01:05:35,200
Speaker 9: And that's a lot of services.

992
01:05:36,360 --> 01:05:38,560
Speaker 7: Is it any wonder that two thirds of the babies

993
01:05:38,600 --> 01:05:43,000
Speaker 7: born at haackspy, expensive country county run hospitals in Los

994
01:05:43,040 --> 01:05:46,920
Speaker 7: Angeles are born to illegal alien mothers.

995
01:05:47,240 --> 01:05:51,120
Speaker 2: Thirty three years ago. That's what he said. Thirty three

996
01:05:51,200 --> 01:05:56,640
Speaker 2: years ago. He was engaged in the Republican position. And

997
01:05:56,680 --> 01:05:59,640
Speaker 2: now look how far the left has moved. Look how

998
01:05:59,720 --> 01:06:04,240
Speaker 2: fare they've gone, Look how like dealing with teachers. How

999
01:06:04,320 --> 01:06:11,120
Speaker 2: broken they are. And that is totally broken. They don't

1000
01:06:11,200 --> 01:06:15,520
Speaker 2: even think you should have to show an ID to vote.

1001
01:06:15,680 --> 01:06:20,040
Speaker 2: They are vehemently opposed to the idea that you would

1002
01:06:20,080 --> 01:06:26,320
Speaker 2: show an ID to vote. This was a member of Congress.

1003
01:06:26,720 --> 01:06:29,720
Speaker 2: He's in a church talking to the crowd assembled, and

1004
01:06:29,760 --> 01:06:33,200
Speaker 2: he's talking about the Save Act and voter ID. And

1005
01:06:33,240 --> 01:06:34,160
Speaker 2: this is how it goes.

1006
01:06:34,800 --> 01:06:39,040
Speaker 9: So it's about how you feel about over my d right.

1007
01:06:39,200 --> 01:06:42,000
Speaker 2: This is not about this is about ease over a registraction,

1008
01:06:43,800 --> 01:06:45,360
Speaker 2: the most common mole idea.

1009
01:06:45,480 --> 01:06:47,320
Speaker 9: Everybody has his drop class.

1010
01:06:47,600 --> 01:06:50,880
Speaker 2: Right for people a different hero, different generation.

1011
01:06:50,960 --> 01:06:53,200
Speaker 9: I probably feel a little bit different than about Washington.

1012
01:06:53,360 --> 01:07:04,120
Speaker 2: How many in here, so he asked the crowd, how

1013
01:07:04,160 --> 01:07:05,920
Speaker 2: many people in here do not have an ID? Like,

1014
01:07:05,960 --> 01:07:07,800
Speaker 2: show your hands. If you don't have an ID, raise

1015
01:07:07,840 --> 01:07:11,760
Speaker 2: your hands. Nobody raised their hands. All we're told is

1016
01:07:11,800 --> 01:07:13,880
Speaker 2: that this group people can't get an ID, that group

1017
01:07:13,920 --> 01:07:16,960
Speaker 2: people can't get an ID. It's racist. If they have

1018
01:07:17,000 --> 01:07:18,560
Speaker 2: to get an ID, it's sexist. And they have to

1019
01:07:18,560 --> 01:07:23,520
Speaker 2: get an ID. Everyone has an ID, everyone has identification.

1020
01:07:24,000 --> 01:07:28,120
Speaker 2: We live in America, of course we have identification. But

1021
01:07:28,200 --> 01:07:33,080
Speaker 2: the political left can't stop calling black people stupid. They

1022
01:07:33,120 --> 01:07:37,200
Speaker 2: can't stop calling women dumb. This is how they're going

1023
01:07:37,240 --> 01:07:40,160
Speaker 2: to win. And there are Black Americans and there are

1024
01:07:40,200 --> 01:07:43,240
Speaker 2: women who are totally like, yeah, call me stupid. As

1025
01:07:43,280 --> 01:07:48,240
Speaker 2: long as we don't have voter ID. Why well, same

1026
01:07:48,280 --> 01:07:51,760
Speaker 2: thing that Harry Reid in nineteen ninety three was discussing

1027
01:07:52,560 --> 01:07:56,640
Speaker 2: rewarding illegal immigrants with the right to vote and then

1028
01:07:56,880 --> 01:08:01,000
Speaker 2: with citizenship. This thing that Harry Reiddied said and I

1029
01:08:01,080 --> 01:08:07,360
Speaker 2: agree with, was wrong. Every push against voter ID, every

1030
01:08:07,400 --> 01:08:10,360
Speaker 2: push against funding the Department of Homeland Security, is to

1031
01:08:10,560 --> 01:08:14,160
Speaker 2: ensure that illegal immigrants can stay in the country and

1032
01:08:14,240 --> 01:08:16,720
Speaker 2: turn them into voters. That's what the left wants to do,

1033
01:08:16,760 --> 01:08:20,360
Speaker 2: and they believe they can do it over time. That's them.

1034
01:08:21,760 --> 01:08:24,600
Speaker 2: Yet it is the same people who don't believe in

1035
01:08:24,640 --> 01:08:28,200
Speaker 2: a voter ID. They do believe in ID for some things.

1036
01:08:28,520 --> 01:08:34,320
Speaker 2: Barack Obama giving there's a contest from the Obama presidential center.

1037
01:08:34,360 --> 01:08:36,240
Speaker 2: It's not a presidential Library because he doesn't want to

1038
01:08:36,240 --> 01:08:38,320
Speaker 2: have to hand over all his old documents. True story.

1039
01:08:38,439 --> 01:08:41,559
Speaker 2: It's a presidential center and they are offering the grand

1040
01:08:41,600 --> 01:08:44,000
Speaker 2: openings in June. Two tickets to the grand opening, and

1041
01:08:44,040 --> 01:08:46,479
Speaker 2: by the way, they're only general admission tickets to the

1042
01:08:46,520 --> 01:08:49,160
Speaker 2: grand opening, And if you live one hundred miles or

1043
01:08:49,200 --> 01:08:52,040
Speaker 2: more away, then you get a fifteen hundred dollars travel stipend.

1044
01:08:52,280 --> 01:08:54,880
Speaker 2: Otherwise you got to come on your own dime. And

1045
01:08:54,920 --> 01:08:58,960
Speaker 2: then it reads promotion open only to US citizens or

1046
01:08:59,040 --> 01:09:02,160
Speaker 2: lawful permanent US US residents who are legal residents of

1047
01:09:02,200 --> 01:09:05,439
Speaker 2: the fifty United States District of Columbia and Puerto Rico

1048
01:09:05,520 --> 01:09:10,800
Speaker 2: and eighteen year older. To win tickets to the Obama

1049
01:09:10,840 --> 01:09:17,400
Speaker 2: Presidential Center, which is this ugly, ugly, ugly gray blob

1050
01:09:17,479 --> 01:09:20,680
Speaker 2: building in the middle of Chicago, you have to have

1051
01:09:20,760 --> 01:09:25,160
Speaker 2: ID to vote. Why should you have to have an ID.

1052
01:09:25,479 --> 01:09:28,120
Speaker 2: It's not racist demand an ID of a winner of

1053
01:09:28,160 --> 01:09:30,559
Speaker 2: two tickets, but it is racist if you demand it

1054
01:09:30,560 --> 01:09:33,760
Speaker 2: when they vote. We've said it before, We've said it again,

1055
01:09:33,840 --> 01:09:36,400
Speaker 2: We'll keep saying it. The Democrats have no morals. These

1056
01:09:36,439 --> 01:09:40,080
Speaker 2: progressives have no mind, and at every turn they are

1057
01:09:40,120 --> 01:09:43,400
Speaker 2: exposed for the fools that they are, and yet people

1058
01:09:43,479 --> 01:09:47,000
Speaker 2: buy into it. We really do have to work overtime

1059
01:09:47,040 --> 01:09:49,240
Speaker 2: to win the election of the midterms, but we really

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Speaker 2: really need to win. This is Tony Katz Today. So

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Speaker 2: here is the Tiger Woods update. And you're like, Tony,

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Speaker 2: we need a Tiger Woods update. Oh, yes you do, Yes,

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Speaker 2: you most certainly do, Tony Katz, Tony Kats Today, Good

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Speaker 2: to be with you. So Tiger Woods flipped his vehicle.

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Speaker 2: It's a dui arrest. But as I know the story,

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Speaker 2: he did not he was not drunk, He did not

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Speaker 2: blow anything. It was a zero point zero when he

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Speaker 2: when he did that. But he wouldn't submit to a

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Speaker 2: urine test, and then there were reports that he had

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Speaker 2: pills on him. Neither here nor there. He's not one

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Speaker 2: hundred percent. Okay, there's an issue. He's I think sending

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Speaker 2: himself to rehab or time to uh to uh rest

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Speaker 2: and reflection and whatever the case may be. I want

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Speaker 2: him to get the help that he needs. But the

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Speaker 2: story from the New York Post is that when he

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Speaker 2: the cop comes upon him after he rolled his vehicle,

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Speaker 2: he's like, yeah, I just called President Trump. You did what? No,

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Speaker 2: you did, you did what? He said that he called Trump.

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Speaker 2: Now his girlfriend is Vanessa Trump, so that happens. And

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Speaker 2: by the way, the pills hydro codon found in his pocket.

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Speaker 2: So I don't know what the story there is. But

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Speaker 2: the first thing you did is call the president is

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Speaker 2: something else. Now, I don't know what the PGA is

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Speaker 2: going to do about these things, like, I don't know

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Speaker 2: if they make a decision here or not.

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Speaker 9: What have you.

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Speaker 2: It's just guy's got an issue, there's no question about it,

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Speaker 2: and it's got to get handled. And it's your league

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Speaker 2: and your reputation on the line. This is Tony Kats today.

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Speaker 1: Why from vall Hartbliner and the Crossroads of America.

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Speaker 2: It's Tony Katz today. I do think there is a

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Speaker 2: lot to take from Trump's speech on Wednesday night, although

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Speaker 2: I don't think it said anything new. But I don't

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Speaker 2: think it said anything new for those of us who've

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Speaker 2: been paying attention, maybe if you only get your news

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Speaker 2: through these guarded filters of CNN and MS NOW in

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Speaker 2: the New York Times, you didn't know that things were

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Speaker 2: going well, that we were taking out so many Iranian assets,

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Speaker 2: that we were incredibly effective in ruining their navy. If

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Speaker 2: you listen to the political left or the woke right.

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Speaker 2: It's a disaster. We're losing. We have to get out.

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Speaker 2: We'll never win. But the President did get into one

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Speaker 2: or two things, an admission of regime change and leaving

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Speaker 2: the open question of well, if you expect other nations

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Speaker 2: to take the straight up Hormuz, what pain are you

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Speaker 2: willing to endure for us as Americans while they get

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Speaker 2: the oil free flowing. Tony Katz, Tony Katz today, guys,

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Speaker 2: good to be here, Good to be with you. STEVEA.

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Speaker 2: It joins me right now, seeing a research fellow for

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Speaker 2: China and National Security Policy at the Heritage Foundation Heritage

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Speaker 2: dot org. Let's walk through this speech now that we've

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Speaker 2: had a couple of days to digest, and I know

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Speaker 2: a lot of people have already talked about it, but

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Speaker 2: I think that there's still there's a moment. I think

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Speaker 2: that was missed, and then I think that people are

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Speaker 2: somewhat missing a moment. So let's start with you the

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Speaker 2: twenty plus minutes the President spoke on Wednesday night. What

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Speaker 2: did you take from it? What did you think America

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Speaker 2: took from it?

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Speaker 11: Well, Tony, I very much agree with your intro in

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Speaker 11: that for those of us that have followed this every

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Speaker 11: single day of the entire operation, there wasn't a lot

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Speaker 11: of new ground broken in the remarks.

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Speaker 9: There were a little bit of the.

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Speaker 11: Crackpot gallery saying what he was going to say, and

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Speaker 11: he didn't say those things. What I'm alluding to is

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Speaker 11: there are all kinds of people who said they had

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Speaker 11: inside scoop and he was going to take sort of

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Speaker 11: a dump on NATO in the course of his remarks.

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Speaker 11: And while there's a part of me that says that's

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Speaker 11: well deserved given how they've performed, but that's not.

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Speaker 9: What he says. So basically it was a cleanse.

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Speaker 11: It was a cleanse in the sense that people were saying,

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Speaker 11: there is no plan, there are no objectives, and we're losing.

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Speaker 9: He was reiterating for the millionth time.

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Speaker 11: Frankly, that there is a plan, always has been a plan,

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Speaker 11: here's what the objectives are, and we're meeting the objectives

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Speaker 11: ahead of schedule. And another important principle that he alluded

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Speaker 11: to was that he had turned to these allies for

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Speaker 11: them to step in.

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Speaker 9: That's their moment of opportunity to prove their value.

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Speaker 11: They chose not to show value and he just noted

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Speaker 11: for the record, he's going to remember that. And then

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Speaker 11: there are some other allies who are leaning in, primarily

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Speaker 11: Arab golf allies who are pretty much at their limit

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Speaker 11: with the attacks from Iran and now say that they're

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Speaker 11: going to form a coalition that will provide their own

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Speaker 11: security to make sure that their product gets freely moved

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Speaker 11: out of that strait to the market.

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Speaker 9: Now.

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Speaker 2: Chief amongst that group is the UAE. Now, don't get

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Speaker 2: me wrong, Saudi Arabia has always hated Iran. This is

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Speaker 2: a Sunni Shia fight in terms of how you view

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Speaker 2: the Islamic faith or political system, depending on how you

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Speaker 2: say these things. They've had the proxy war they've been

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Speaker 2: dealing with in Yemen for years. The Huti rebels are

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Speaker 2: supported by the Iranian regimes and not only going after

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Speaker 2: the people of Yemen, not only going after Saudis, but

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Speaker 2: going after our ships and other ships in the Red

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Speaker 2: Sea and other places. But the UAE, the United Arab Emirates,

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Speaker 2: has been vocal and aggressive. They want to add combatants

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Speaker 2: to help the US and by extension, help Israel. What

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Speaker 2: is their argument, what is their look to the future

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Speaker 2: and how they're trying to position themselves because we should

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Speaker 2: be clear for these Arab nations, they hate Iran, they're

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Speaker 2: tired of the destabilization, but they are all trying to

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Speaker 2: position themselves in a level of safety and security for

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Speaker 2: the next twenty years as the world has now shifted.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, Tony, you're right to focus on the United Arab memorates.

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Speaker 11: They are punching way above their weight in terms of geography,

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Speaker 11: population size. They of course have some wealth because of

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Speaker 11: their energy endowment, but they're also diversifying their economy and

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Speaker 11: investing a lot in the United States.

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Speaker 9: And in recent times.

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Speaker 11: They have, as you alluded, always had some things to

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Speaker 11: say about the.

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Speaker 9: Theogratic regime in Iran.

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Speaker 11: There are a lot of Iranians that go to the UAE,

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Speaker 11: and so it's not really about the Iranians as much

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Speaker 11: as it's about that regime, and they are fed up

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Speaker 11: with that regime destabilizing the region, destabilizing markets, supporting terrorism.

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Speaker 11: UAE is one of the leaders in designating the Muslim

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Speaker 11: Brotherhood as a terrorist organization. And throughout all of this

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Speaker 11: they've been speaking pretty bluntly to Europe as much as

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Speaker 11: they've spoken anywhere else. Is saying, you know, you have

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Speaker 11: this unfettered migration policy that makes no sense, and now

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Speaker 11: you have a huge radicalized population and you won't as

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Speaker 11: we have, recognize these Muslim Brotherhood folks as terrorists, and

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Speaker 11: now you're siding essentially with Iran. So I think what

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Speaker 11: they're doing is very effectively putting a lid to the

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Speaker 11: notion that this is Israel dragging America and President Trump along,

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Speaker 11: or that it's Israeli United States operating alone and for

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Speaker 11: our own selfish interests.

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Speaker 9: There are others, real allies that have.

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Speaker 11: Skin in this game, and they're speaking up, and I

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Speaker 11: think they're going to be acting on their own national

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Speaker 11: interests going forward in a more aggressive way as well.

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Speaker 9: They should.

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Speaker 11: That's another part of trump Ism, letting allies have greater

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Speaker 11: independent capability and they can carry the share of burden

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Speaker 11: that they're able to carry.

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Speaker 2: Talking to Steve Yates, the Heritage Foundation Heritage dot org,

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Speaker 2: let me bring in something that President Trump said right here.

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Speaker 2: Just hold on one second, because what the President said.

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Speaker 2: What the President said specific to oil and the strade

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Speaker 2: of Hormuz is hey, European nations, stop looking to us,

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Speaker 2: you want this stuff, go get it. Here's what the President.

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Speaker 5: Said, the trees of the world that do receive oil

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Speaker 5: through the hormone strait must take care of that passage.

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Speaker 5: They must cherish it. They must grab it and cherish it.

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Speaker 4: They can do it easily.

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Speaker 5: We will be helpful, but they should take the lead

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Speaker 5: in protecting the oil that they so desperately depend on.

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Speaker 5: So to those countries that can't get fuel, many of

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Speaker 5: which refuse to get involved in the decapitation of Iran,

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Speaker 5: we had to do it ourselves.

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Speaker 4: I have a suggestion.

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Speaker 5: Number one, buy oil from the United States of America.

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Speaker 5: We have plenty, We have so much. And number two,

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Speaker 5: build up some delayed courage. Should have done it before,

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Speaker 5: should have done it with us, as we asked. Go

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Speaker 5: to the strait and just take it, protect it, use

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Speaker 5: it for yourselves. Iran has been essentially decimated. The hard

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Speaker 5: part is done, so it should be easy. And in

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Speaker 5: any event, when this conflict is over, the strait will

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Speaker 5: open up naturally.

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Speaker 2: It'll just open up naturally. No, I must tell you, sir,

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Speaker 2: I don't know if the strait opens up naturally. I

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Speaker 2: think that's a little more hope than anything else. The

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Speaker 2: President had said this a couple of days prior, so again,

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Speaker 2: not necessarily anything new for the speech, but maybe new

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Speaker 2: to some people who hadn't heard it a prior. Is

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Speaker 2: this somehow shocking for the Europeans to hear in that

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Speaker 2: go setting, you go set your own agenda and go live,

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Speaker 2: live your own life. Stop depending on the United States?

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Speaker 2: And is that what we want? Well?

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Speaker 11: There is an element of how the President talks that

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Speaker 11: I absolutely love and find very necessary in that we've

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Speaker 11: had very lazy, welfare queen like behavior from some of

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Speaker 11: our allies. They sit back and expect, they don't ask,

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Speaker 11: suspect that we will pay and we will carry a

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Speaker 11: burden and it will be in service of them because

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Speaker 11: somehow they're great. And he's basically telling them, Look, if

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Speaker 11: you're great, then you have to demonstrate that you have power,

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Speaker 11: ability and responsibility, and you're doing none of those things.

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Speaker 11: And he's the kind of president that will just speak

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Speaker 11: openly and bluntly, not because you're a prisoner of talking points.

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Speaker 11: And I think that's necessary and I love it frankly. Now,

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Speaker 11: the organic opening of the of the Strait, there's a

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Speaker 11: part I think I intellectually understand where he's trying to go.

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Speaker 11: He's made very very clear the United States has done

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Speaker 11: the heavy lift, the major military operation, and you lesser

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Speaker 11: powers who took a pass and and sort of gave

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Speaker 11: sort of cat calls.

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Speaker 9: From the peanut gallery through all of this.

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Speaker 11: You want, you want some of this that you're dependent upon,

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Speaker 11: then get in here and get it. He's telling them

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Speaker 11: to come and occupy card Island and all of that

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Speaker 11: sounds like it, but I don't really think that's what

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Speaker 11: he's after.

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Speaker 9: He's just saying, you know, get in the game and

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Speaker 9: protect your own stuff, and that I think is really important.

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Speaker 11: Will they I don't think they will, and when they don't,

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Speaker 11: they're once again failing their people.

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Speaker 2: So part of this is I think that there's a

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Speaker 2: mistake being made as we as observers look at this,

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Speaker 2: that somehow these nations were invited to the initial attack

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Speaker 2: that they were invited to the AY were taking out

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Speaker 2: the Iranian regime. They weren't, as I have not seen

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Speaker 2: anything that shows me that they were, and a lot

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Speaker 2: of them I've made this argument on the show repeatedly.

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Speaker 2: They need to look strong to their constituencies, and looking

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Speaker 2: strong means not following the leader of America, especially and

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Speaker 2: specifically Donald Trump. Because of this character that he is

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Speaker 2: this caricature that other people make of him, so they

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Speaker 2: didn't want to play follow the Leader. But I thought

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Speaker 2: the UK was going to lead with the Royal Navy

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Speaker 2: in trying to open up the strait of horror moves.

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Speaker 2: This hasn't happened, So they don't see an opportunity for

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Speaker 2: strength here and even the support of their own citizens

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Speaker 2: by ensuring the oil flows. Even if they didn't want

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Speaker 2: to be seen as follow the leader and getting involved

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Speaker 2: in this war to begin with.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, well then it sort of makes sense to go

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Speaker 11: by the name United Kingdom rather than Great Britain, because

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Speaker 11: there's nothing great about them at this point in terms

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Speaker 11: of their behavior. And it's one thing if you don't

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Speaker 11: like a particular leader and how he talks. But I

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Speaker 11: think what President Trump is doing, and he's smarter than

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Speaker 11: they want to give him credit for, and he's more

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Speaker 11: responsible than they want to give him credit for. He's

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Speaker 11: engaged in a very calibrated campaign. He's given off ramps

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Speaker 11: multiple times to the Iranians which they have chosen not

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Speaker 11: to take. He's given openings for allies to step in,

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Speaker 11: which sometimes and maybe a lot of the time, they

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Speaker 11: chosen not to take and he's left a lot of

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Speaker 11: the infrastructure for reconstruction and not going to do in

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Speaker 11: a rock two point zero. And so there's a lot

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Speaker 11: of these elements that a lot of their people, if

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Speaker 11: they thought about it, would see it as being calibrated, responsible,

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Speaker 11: what have you.

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Speaker 9: But they're not. And what they're also not doing is

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Speaker 9: giving any theory.

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Speaker 11: For what exactly is their role in the world at

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Speaker 11: this point, what exactly is their position in the world

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Speaker 11: at this point appears to be taking dictation from illegal

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Speaker 11: migrants in their country and basically criticizing the United States.

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Speaker 9: That's not a recipe for any kind of future for

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Speaker 9: their people.

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Speaker 2: Talking to Steveates the Heritage Foundation Heritage dot org, this

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Speaker 2: exposing of Europe, I think is one of the things

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Speaker 2: that is absolutely underplayed in media. And you can understand

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Speaker 2: why they adore Europe, they ascribe themselves or they aspire

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Speaker 2: to be Europe, and to expose European weakness is massive.

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Speaker 2: And one of the ways this is exposed is that

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Speaker 2: the president is like, hey, go secure the straight and

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Speaker 2: now the UK instead of just sending a couple of

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Speaker 2: destroyers and saying, Okay, we're going to do this in

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Speaker 2: for our own interest. They go to the UN and

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Speaker 2: they've assembled the again, we're in the Coalition of the

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Speaker 2: willing World, and they've got a coalition in forty nations

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Speaker 2: and now they're looking for the UN Security Council to

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Speaker 2: pass a resolution. I couldn't make this up, Steve if

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Speaker 2: I wanted to. They want the UN Security Council to

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Speaker 2: pass a resolution to allow them to use force in

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Speaker 2: a defensive posture in order to open up the strait,

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Speaker 2: so they can only make moves if they are attacked.

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Speaker 2: This is their mathematics will show up and we'll wait

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Speaker 2: for Aran to do something, and then maybe we'll do

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Speaker 2: something back, and that'll be real strength. This is an ugly, ugly,

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Speaker 2: childlike scared look from the Europeans.

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Speaker 11: No, it is, and it basically just says complete blindness

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Speaker 11: to the memo that I think everybody should have received

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Speaker 11: ten years ago. And if not that, then when President

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Speaker 11: Trump was reelected that the era of globalism is over.

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Speaker 9: The idea that good and bad powers.

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Speaker 11: Around the world are going to be controlled by and

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Speaker 11: managed by some overlord that's beyond the nation state is

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01:25:10,320 --> 01:25:14,759
Speaker 11: just fantasy, and it's a fantasy that helped China break

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Speaker 11: out as a disruptive power. It's a fantasy that helped

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Speaker 11: Russia be aggressive against Ukraine and grind this war multiple years.

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Speaker 11: And it's a fantasy that allowed Iran for nearly five

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Speaker 11: decades to behave completely irresponsibly. And yet what the devil

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Speaker 11: did the United Nations exactly do, whether counterproliferation, human rights,

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Speaker 11: or any of the other covenants that they have in

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Speaker 11: terms of enforcement, and.

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Speaker 9: It comes back to nothing. So to kind of go.

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Speaker 11: Back and sort of appeal to the absolutely corrupt and

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Speaker 11: worthless United Nations to get a permission slip to defend

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01:25:52,760 --> 01:25:55,880
Speaker 11: your national commercial interests. And it wasn't like asking them

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Speaker 11: to go and storm Tehran, or go install their own

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Speaker 11: preferred leader in Iran, or even to secure the nuclear

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Speaker 11: fissile material that might still be inside Iran, which would

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Speaker 11: be kind of an international peacekeeping like mission.

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Speaker 9: They're asking for none of that. They're asking what we.

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Speaker 11: All have as nation states, which is the right to

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Speaker 11: defend ourselves, our ships and our cargo for international commerce.

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Speaker 11: One of the only reasons we have a navy and

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Speaker 11: a federal government.

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Speaker 2: Really quick though, on this idea of coalitions, and we

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Speaker 2: didn't ask these other nations. Do you think the president

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Speaker 2: should have asked some others if they want to be involved,

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Speaker 2: or was the idea of them leaking just simply too

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Speaker 2: much of a risk or some other issue.

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Speaker 11: I think you hit the bullseye, and basically Trump two

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Speaker 11: point zero has a near perfect record of keeping things

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Speaker 11: close hold, with very very few truly authoritative leaks, and

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Speaker 11: those are probably deliberate, lots of speculatory kinds of things

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Speaker 11: that are attributed as leaks that I'm not convinced actually exists.

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Speaker 11: But basically, the old rule of FuMB in tradecraft is

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Speaker 11: the fewer people you tell, the fewer people who could

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Speaker 11: possibly leak, you keep your operation security. You have your

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Speaker 11: element of surprise, You hit hard and everyone's on react

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Speaker 11: and you have the advantage. And that's what the president did.

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Speaker 11: That's what he did in concert with Israel in an

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Speaker 11: historic way that I don't think has ever been done

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Speaker 11: with any other ally with a joint operation like this.

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Speaker 9: And so in retrospect, I think.

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Speaker 11: Historians are going to look at this and they're going

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Speaker 11: to say, this is really remarkable from an operational point

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Speaker 11: of view. And one of the keys to that operational

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Speaker 11: success was minimizing that circle. And if you'd have gone

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Speaker 11: to Europe, you know, it would have been on the

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Speaker 11: front pages of the New York Times and all over

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Speaker 11: social media.

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Speaker 2: Steve Y before I let you go. The President brought

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Speaker 2: up regime change in the speech, and he's brought up

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Speaker 2: in some other talks prior to that that we didn't

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Speaker 2: go in for regime change. But that's what we've actually done,

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Speaker 2: and we've changed it twice. I believe I said to

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Speaker 2: you last time we spoke, I won't listen to any

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Speaker 2: of that. Of course, it was regime change, There's no

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Speaker 2: question it was regime change. I would say that to

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Speaker 2: the President directly, completely unafraid of being thrown out of

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Speaker 2: the room. It was regime change. But we keep hearing

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Speaker 2: about how this new group they're more reasonable, but they're

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Speaker 2: still radicals, and it's trying to have it both ways.

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Speaker 2: In the end, can any deal be made with the

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Speaker 2: current speaker of the Iranian Parliament with the Iranian President

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Speaker 2: Presa I can never pronounce his name, Poreshvian. I'm still

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01:28:26,160 --> 01:28:30,720
Speaker 2: not getting it right. The next one is that's just it?

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Speaker 2: Or does this have to be completely gone no connection

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Speaker 2: to the Ayatola for us to have an opportunity to

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Speaker 2: create a deal.

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Speaker 11: Well, look, if someone would have come to me and said,

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Speaker 11: here's how do you recommend going through this kind of

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Speaker 11: a strategy, I probably wouldn't have put very much credence

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Speaker 11: into negotiating with the remnants.

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Speaker 9: I wouldn't have done that with Venezuela.

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Speaker 11: But I have to give some deference to the president

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01:28:55,320 --> 01:28:59,360
Speaker 11: and taking his route. He is basically splitting the difference

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Speaker 11: between the maximalist Iraq policy of the Bushey administration in

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Speaker 11: which I served and the sort of new isolationists that

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01:29:10,640 --> 01:29:14,720
Speaker 11: don't want anything anywhere and don't even seem to want

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Speaker 11: any allies anywhere. And so he's not doing regime change

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Speaker 11: for building new democracy, occupying and controlling a country. But

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Speaker 11: he's also not saying I'm going to sit on my

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Speaker 11: hands and only pay off the threat, like Barack Obama

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Speaker 11: tried to do, so I give him some credit for

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Speaker 11: trying it. He also seems to have the patience that

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Speaker 11: if this next round fails, well then he'll go another round,

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Speaker 11: and at some point rationality has to settle it. On

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Speaker 11: the other side of I think I'd rather stay alive,

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Speaker 11: and I think I'm going to at least keep the

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Speaker 11: deal or at least fake keeping the deal long enough

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Speaker 11: and that changes behavior enough for the US to muddle

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Speaker 11: through and our coalition maybe to wake up.

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Speaker 2: Steve Yates from the Heritage Foundation Heritage dot org, I

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Speaker 2: appreciate you being with us more to get to this

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Speaker 2: is Tony Katz today. So did the City of Houston

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Speaker 2: delete this? They're absolutely insane post Tony Katz, Tony Katz today,

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Speaker 2: good to be with you. Houston, Texas is the feed

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Speaker 2: City of Houston, and they put out a post important announcement.

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Speaker 2: That's what said important announcement. Due to the Spring holiday,

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Speaker 2: City of Houston offices will be closed on Friday, April third.

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Speaker 2: That's today. It's good Friday. I'm sorry spring holiday. Did

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Speaker 2: you just call Easter spring holiday? I'm the Jewish guy,

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Speaker 2: It's Easter. What's wrong with everybody? Oh that's right. You

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01:30:47,040 --> 01:30:50,840
Speaker 2: can't actually talk about what Easter is. The fundamental, the

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Speaker 2: basis for Christianity, the very concept of faith is he

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Speaker 2: has risen. Can't say it, can't say that. Oh no,

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Speaker 2: oh no, yeah, they deleted it. I still have it.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna screenshot it right now. I'm going to screenshot this.

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Speaker 2: They deleted it because I would assume the pushback. I

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Speaker 2: think the real question is why they ever write it.

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Speaker 2: Why is it that they simply are willing to so

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01:31:20,320 --> 01:31:25,120
Speaker 2: disparage Christians? And where are Christians taking any of this? Man?

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Speaker 2: I really wish they'd get more vocal. Yeah, I might

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Speaker 2: be talking. Keep it here. This is Tony Katz today,

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01:31:34,920 --> 01:31:38,360
Speaker 2: so you may have the capacity to explain this market

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01:31:38,360 --> 01:31:41,680
Speaker 2: to me. I can't figure out what's happening now. I mean,

1452
01:31:41,720 --> 01:31:45,759
Speaker 2: this is truly, truly weird. We see the producer price

1453
01:31:45,800 --> 01:31:48,960
Speaker 2: index up right, that's what manufacturers are paying. And it's

1454
01:31:49,120 --> 01:31:52,599
Speaker 2: very clear that we're seeing that the tariffs are now

1455
01:31:52,640 --> 01:31:57,280
Speaker 2: moving through to the end consumer, the retailer, and then

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01:31:57,360 --> 01:32:00,880
Speaker 2: of course to us. The days of absorbing arabs are over.

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01:32:01,200 --> 01:32:04,599
Speaker 2: And we saw that inflation indeed went up. And one

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Speaker 2: of the few things that President Trump said in his

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Speaker 2: speech Wednesday night when he said inflation was non existent.

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Speaker 2: Sorry that dog won't hunt Tony Katz, Tony kats today,

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Speaker 2: Good to be here, Good to be with you. There's

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Speaker 2: a lot of great economic opportunity, and I do think

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Speaker 2: that President Trump some kind sometimes steps in his own

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Speaker 2: way here. We have had that conversation very often, and

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Speaker 2: I'm not going to shy away from what is reality.

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Speaker 2: But you take a look at the jobs numbers today,

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Speaker 2: one hundred and seventy eight thousand jobs in March when

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Speaker 2: the expectation was fifty nine thousand. You mean it's costing

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Speaker 2: us more to manufacture everything. We're in the middle of

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Speaker 2: a war, and oh, we have more jobs than ever,

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Speaker 2: and yet government jobs went down. It's hard to make

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Speaker 2: sense of it all it truly is. Doctor Matt Will

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Speaker 2: joins us right now economists at the University of Indianapolis.

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Speaker 2: I'm not going to say that I'm not happy. I'm

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Speaker 2: certainly happy to see more jobs, but sometimes a job's

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Speaker 2: report does not tell a full story. Walk me through

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Speaker 2: what it is that you're seeing here as it just

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Speaker 2: got released this morning. Yeah.

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Speaker 12: Well, first of all, you know, I don't buy it. Okay,

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Speaker 12: let's just talk about this for a moment before we

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Speaker 12: jump into the details. We cover this on your show

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01:33:19,000 --> 01:33:22,240
Speaker 12: many times when Biden was president. These massive revisions. We're

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Speaker 12: talking in the million person range of revisions. They're wrong

1484
01:33:27,120 --> 01:33:28,840
Speaker 12: right out of the gate. The President has said the

1485
01:33:29,040 --> 01:33:31,720
Speaker 12: wrong radit right out of the gate. So I do

1486
01:33:31,880 --> 01:33:35,080
Speaker 12: not accept this number. Okay, we'll get into it, but

1487
01:33:35,120 --> 01:33:36,920
Speaker 12: I don't accept it, and I'll tell you why in

1488
01:33:36,960 --> 01:33:37,519
Speaker 12: a little bit.

1489
01:33:37,840 --> 01:33:40,760
Speaker 2: First of all, the head go ahead, No, no, no, no,

1490
01:33:40,840 --> 01:33:44,280
Speaker 2: I want to hear first before I start unloading.

1491
01:33:44,960 --> 01:33:47,960
Speaker 12: Okay, Well let's see what it says. Okay, before I

1492
01:33:47,960 --> 01:33:49,760
Speaker 12: gave you, like the end of the story, before I

1493
01:33:49,760 --> 01:33:51,640
Speaker 12: told you the story. That's probably the wrong way to

1494
01:33:51,640 --> 01:33:54,679
Speaker 12: approach this. Yeah, the headline plus one hundred and seventy

1495
01:33:54,680 --> 01:33:57,280
Speaker 12: eight thousand, Like you said, this is much more than expected.

1496
01:33:58,160 --> 01:34:02,160
Speaker 12: Private sector amazing, one hundred and forty three thousand up.

1497
01:34:02,439 --> 01:34:05,920
Speaker 12: This is double what the ADP number was two days ago.

1498
01:34:06,040 --> 01:34:09,960
Speaker 12: ADP had sixty two thousand, So they're double the ADP number,

1499
01:34:10,200 --> 01:34:13,280
Speaker 12: which an ADP is overly optimistic. Remember they're a private company.

1500
01:34:13,320 --> 01:34:15,720
Speaker 12: They want to say good news, so the fact that

1501
01:34:15,720 --> 01:34:19,639
Speaker 12: their double ADP tells you something that's fishy. Government minus

1502
01:34:19,640 --> 01:34:22,000
Speaker 12: eight that's the good news. The good news is government's

1503
01:34:22,040 --> 01:34:26,040
Speaker 12: down three months in a row. Government's drinking. Thank goodness,

1504
01:34:26,320 --> 01:34:27,559
Speaker 12: we got smaller government.

1505
01:34:27,720 --> 01:34:28,040
Speaker 2: Trump.

1506
01:34:28,040 --> 01:34:31,280
Speaker 12: Everyone sent them a thank you card. Healthcare this was

1507
01:34:31,320 --> 01:34:34,120
Speaker 12: the big driving one of the number, up ninety thousand.

1508
01:34:34,520 --> 01:34:35,839
Speaker 2: Healthcare. Leisure.

1509
01:34:36,439 --> 01:34:38,599
Speaker 12: You'd think, even with all the stuff going on, leisures

1510
01:34:38,680 --> 01:34:43,120
Speaker 12: up forty four thousand, transportations up twenty one thousand, goods

1511
01:34:43,400 --> 01:34:49,960
Speaker 12: manufacturing up forty three thousand. Again, this is this is

1512
01:34:50,000 --> 01:34:52,960
Speaker 12: something that doesn't pass the stinct test. And the reason

1513
01:34:53,000 --> 01:34:55,519
Speaker 12: it doesn't is because if you look at the ISM

1514
01:34:55,600 --> 01:35:00,400
Speaker 12: report which was released yesterday, it's a huge decrease in

1515
01:35:00,520 --> 01:35:03,360
Speaker 12: manufacturing employment. So there's a lot of things in this

1516
01:35:03,400 --> 01:35:06,240
Speaker 12: report that I just don't buy. And I guarantee you

1517
01:35:06,240 --> 01:35:09,040
Speaker 12: in the next two months we will see massive revisions.

1518
01:35:09,120 --> 01:35:12,320
Speaker 2: We now, we did see some revisions from some prior months,

1519
01:35:12,800 --> 01:35:19,800
Speaker 2: right we saw revisions up for February, for example, But

1520
01:35:19,840 --> 01:35:22,000
Speaker 2: we have talked about the revisions. We did talk to

1521
01:35:22,040 --> 01:35:27,000
Speaker 2: them about Biden, but the revisions were always down every

1522
01:35:27,120 --> 01:35:29,800
Speaker 2: time we talked about Biden. What happened was they put

1523
01:35:29,800 --> 01:35:31,879
Speaker 2: out a big number and then it got revised downward.

1524
01:35:31,920 --> 01:35:35,439
Speaker 2: A big number revised downward. This is a revision in

1525
01:35:35,520 --> 01:35:39,040
Speaker 2: the opposite direction. So how can we I don't think

1526
01:35:39,040 --> 01:35:41,440
Speaker 2: we can make a comparison here to the Biden administration.

1527
01:35:41,720 --> 01:35:44,200
Speaker 2: Now I'm going to make a comparison because it's fifty

1528
01:35:44,240 --> 01:35:48,120
Speaker 2: to fifty. The January revision was up thirty four thousand.

1529
01:35:48,280 --> 01:35:52,760
Speaker 2: The February revision was down forty one thousand, So we

1530
01:35:52,840 --> 01:35:55,320
Speaker 2: had one good revision from two months ago. We had

1531
01:35:55,400 --> 01:35:59,479
Speaker 2: a bad revision from the previous month. So and they

1532
01:35:59,479 --> 01:36:02,400
Speaker 2: were huge. I mean, we're talking on a February it

1533
01:36:02,439 --> 01:36:06,280
Speaker 2: was down one hundred and thirty three thousand jobs, which

1534
01:36:06,360 --> 01:36:08,280
Speaker 2: was a downward revision of forty one thousand.

1535
01:36:08,320 --> 01:36:11,640
Speaker 12: That's pretty big. So they're just missing the mark. These

1536
01:36:11,720 --> 01:36:14,000
Speaker 12: people in the BLS. It's the same people, by the way,

1537
01:36:14,280 --> 01:36:17,280
Speaker 12: using the same techniques that they used back when Biden

1538
01:36:17,360 --> 01:36:20,040
Speaker 12: was present. They were wrong then and they're wrong now.

1539
01:36:21,040 --> 01:36:23,599
Speaker 12: What more can I tell you? They're wrong, and they're

1540
01:36:23,600 --> 01:36:26,880
Speaker 12: not consistent with the ISM Report, which I think has

1541
01:36:27,160 --> 01:36:29,280
Speaker 12: consistently been an accurate report.

1542
01:36:29,800 --> 01:36:33,800
Speaker 2: Talking to doctor Matt Well, economist at the University of Indianapolis,

1543
01:36:34,400 --> 01:36:38,400
Speaker 2: we're talking about manufacturing when you talk about the ISM Report,

1544
01:36:39,040 --> 01:36:42,559
Speaker 2: and I stated earlier that the tariffs are now being

1545
01:36:42,640 --> 01:36:47,599
Speaker 2: passed through, and we then saw that it showed inflation up,

1546
01:36:47,640 --> 01:36:51,519
Speaker 2: and now you see job growth with inflation up. I

1547
01:36:51,560 --> 01:36:56,439
Speaker 2: agree it sounds odd. But the argument that's going to

1548
01:36:56,439 --> 01:36:59,920
Speaker 2: be made is is that if we can't trust these

1549
01:37:00,160 --> 01:37:02,559
Speaker 2: numbers that the BLS puts together, why is there still

1550
01:37:02,560 --> 01:37:05,360
Speaker 2: a BLS like, why why is this still the way

1551
01:37:05,400 --> 01:37:08,000
Speaker 2: we go about doing things? And if the market had

1552
01:37:08,000 --> 01:37:10,600
Speaker 2: been open today, I forgot it's Good Friday, and so

1553
01:37:10,640 --> 01:37:13,160
Speaker 2: therefore the market isn't open. It closes on Good Friday.

1554
01:37:13,400 --> 01:37:15,799
Speaker 2: What do you think their reaction would be to this report?

1555
01:37:16,840 --> 01:37:19,400
Speaker 12: I think it would be a nothing burger and I

1556
01:37:19,439 --> 01:37:22,880
Speaker 12: sincerely believe that. And you know, you say all the

1557
01:37:22,920 --> 01:37:25,640
Speaker 12: time about you know, the TSA should be privatized, and

1558
01:37:25,680 --> 01:37:28,519
Speaker 12: I agree with you. I'm going to take your same

1559
01:37:28,640 --> 01:37:31,479
Speaker 12: logic and apply it to the BLS. The BLS should

1560
01:37:31,479 --> 01:37:34,200
Speaker 12: be shut down and we should privatize it because we

1561
01:37:34,320 --> 01:37:38,080
Speaker 12: have data. You know, I'm doctor Doom. Not now let

1562
01:37:38,080 --> 01:37:40,719
Speaker 12: me give you the fantastic news that came out yesterday.

1563
01:37:40,760 --> 01:37:42,920
Speaker 2: You're not going to give us fantastic news. Everybody knows

1564
01:37:42,960 --> 01:37:46,040
Speaker 2: that's a setup. By the way, half the audience does

1565
01:37:46,080 --> 01:37:48,920
Speaker 2: call you doctor Doom, and half the audience wants to

1566
01:37:48,920 --> 01:37:52,280
Speaker 2: know if you're single. That's that's been my my a

1567
01:37:52,360 --> 01:37:54,679
Speaker 2: take from everybody on your reporting.

1568
01:37:55,240 --> 01:37:57,080
Speaker 12: Well, then that means I'm doing my job if half

1569
01:37:57,080 --> 01:37:59,840
Speaker 12: are offended and half are happy. But this is not

1570
01:38:00,200 --> 01:38:03,920
Speaker 12: This is not a setup. The PMI, the Manufacturing Index,

1571
01:38:03,920 --> 01:38:07,400
Speaker 12: which is reliable. It's a private industry real time report.

1572
01:38:07,960 --> 01:38:11,040
Speaker 12: The third month in a row of growing manufacturing, and

1573
01:38:11,080 --> 01:38:15,040
Speaker 12: not in a small way. It's massive. Manufacturing was up,

1574
01:38:15,479 --> 01:38:20,200
Speaker 12: new orders increased significantly. Production in production was up ten

1575
01:38:20,360 --> 01:38:24,559
Speaker 12: percent annualized for the month of March. For everything is

1576
01:38:24,600 --> 01:38:29,360
Speaker 12: going great. Deliveries deliveries are up twenty percent in the month.

1577
01:38:29,479 --> 01:38:32,640
Speaker 2: Hold on, hold on. Just as a matter of definition,

1578
01:38:33,040 --> 01:38:36,840
Speaker 2: deliveries are the you mean the deliverables of the manufactured good.

1579
01:38:36,840 --> 01:38:39,120
Speaker 2: It's one thing to make it, but we're talking about

1580
01:38:39,439 --> 01:38:43,120
Speaker 2: landed at the at the retailer or the consumer.

1581
01:38:43,520 --> 01:38:48,000
Speaker 12: Yes, yes, okay, yes, and now let me correct myself.

1582
01:38:48,200 --> 01:38:51,680
Speaker 12: Deliveries could mean wholesale deliveries or retailer, but it's on

1583
01:38:51,680 --> 01:38:52,400
Speaker 12: its way to the rear.

1584
01:38:52,479 --> 01:38:55,519
Speaker 2: But we understand. We mean that we're talking about that

1585
01:38:55,560 --> 01:38:57,479
Speaker 2: good reaching the retailer. Now is a question of whether

1586
01:38:57,520 --> 01:39:01,560
Speaker 2: or it's being sold from the retailer. That's a conversation altogether.

1587
01:39:02,160 --> 01:39:03,640
Speaker 2: You got it, you got it.

1588
01:39:04,160 --> 01:39:06,080
Speaker 12: And by the way, the reason their deliveries are up

1589
01:39:06,160 --> 01:39:08,639
Speaker 12: is because inventories have been shrinking at the retail level,

1590
01:39:08,720 --> 01:39:11,599
Speaker 12: so they have to restock. So this is all good news,

1591
01:39:11,600 --> 01:39:14,599
Speaker 12: but there's two pieces of bad news. One is that

1592
01:39:14,720 --> 01:39:18,920
Speaker 12: prices are significantly higher. They are the highest last month

1593
01:39:19,240 --> 01:39:23,320
Speaker 12: for producers than they've been in the entire Trump administration.

1594
01:39:23,880 --> 01:39:27,160
Speaker 12: So this inflation being gone is a false narrative.

1595
01:39:27,240 --> 01:39:28,320
Speaker 2: It's not gone.

1596
01:39:28,680 --> 01:39:32,759
Speaker 12: And exports contracted, well, of course they contracted. The tariffs

1597
01:39:32,760 --> 01:39:37,480
Speaker 12: are reducing import and export activity, and this is what contradicts.

1598
01:39:37,520 --> 01:39:40,760
Speaker 12: This is a stinct test the unemployment report. Reason I

1599
01:39:40,800 --> 01:39:44,720
Speaker 12: don't believe it is because this report showed manufacturing contracting

1600
01:39:45,400 --> 01:39:51,240
Speaker 12: as did which is contradicts the unemployment reports. It doesn't

1601
01:39:51,240 --> 01:39:54,120
Speaker 12: make any sense. The real people say, we're not hiring

1602
01:39:54,120 --> 01:39:56,320
Speaker 12: more manufacturers. The government says, we are.

1603
01:39:57,120 --> 01:40:00,640
Speaker 2: Talking to doctor Matt Well, economist at the University of Indianapolis,

1604
01:40:00,640 --> 01:40:05,439
Speaker 2: I said this report is befuddling that we could see

1605
01:40:05,479 --> 01:40:08,439
Speaker 2: the increase inflation which was in the last PMI report

1606
01:40:09,000 --> 01:40:14,439
Speaker 2: PPI report, we could see that these costs are being

1607
01:40:14,439 --> 01:40:17,839
Speaker 2: passed on, yet somehow manufacturing is up. That's a unique,

1608
01:40:18,040 --> 01:40:21,280
Speaker 2: unique turn of events there. You talk about the retailers

1609
01:40:21,320 --> 01:40:25,479
Speaker 2: have shrinking inventories, which means they were holding off on

1610
01:40:25,520 --> 01:40:29,320
Speaker 2: having to buy anything new. Right, It wasn't that there

1611
01:40:29,320 --> 01:40:31,960
Speaker 2: weren't things coming, It's that they decided for their own

1612
01:40:32,000 --> 01:40:35,360
Speaker 2: business practices. It was best to hold off, and now's

1613
01:40:35,400 --> 01:40:37,840
Speaker 2: the time that they have to make up for it.

1614
01:40:37,880 --> 01:40:40,400
Speaker 2: There are seasonal things happening and all sorts of things.

1615
01:40:40,680 --> 01:40:42,559
Speaker 2: Let me go back to the jobs report really quick,

1616
01:40:43,240 --> 01:40:45,799
Speaker 2: because we see the decrease in government jobs by eighteen

1617
01:40:45,840 --> 01:40:48,839
Speaker 2: thousand and I do cheer that. And the biggest increase

1618
01:40:49,000 --> 01:40:53,000
Speaker 2: was in healthcare. Are you now, yes, all this could

1619
01:40:53,040 --> 01:40:56,120
Speaker 2: be revised. I get your point. But when you see

1620
01:40:56,160 --> 01:40:59,200
Speaker 2: the top grower being healthcare, you like that or do

1621
01:40:59,200 --> 01:41:00,680
Speaker 2: you think that's a sign of issue.

1622
01:41:01,520 --> 01:41:04,240
Speaker 12: It doesn't concern me because health care is a big

1623
01:41:04,439 --> 01:41:07,519
Speaker 12: it's very broad net. I've said this before. One of

1624
01:41:07,560 --> 01:41:10,040
Speaker 12: the things in the United States that we don't understand,

1625
01:41:10,040 --> 01:41:11,920
Speaker 12: and I wish I could educate the public on this.

1626
01:41:12,400 --> 01:41:15,160
Speaker 12: Our health care costs are not higher than the rest

1627
01:41:15,160 --> 01:41:18,080
Speaker 12: of the world. People think that, oh, it's cheaper in Finland,

1628
01:41:18,120 --> 01:41:21,760
Speaker 12: it's cheaper in Germany. No, it's not per unit, it's

1629
01:41:21,880 --> 01:41:25,720
Speaker 12: cheaper in the United States. We consume more volume of

1630
01:41:25,760 --> 01:41:28,760
Speaker 12: health care. We have such access to health care that

1631
01:41:28,840 --> 01:41:31,160
Speaker 12: no one in the world has. We run in for

1632
01:41:31,240 --> 01:41:33,479
Speaker 12: a sniffle, We run in for a I got a

1633
01:41:33,560 --> 01:41:37,040
Speaker 12: strained risk, I run in and I go to the doctor.

1634
01:41:37,439 --> 01:41:39,519
Speaker 12: You go to Canada for a strain rich you got

1635
01:41:39,520 --> 01:41:43,000
Speaker 12: an eighteen month wait. So I don't mind the fact

1636
01:41:43,040 --> 01:41:45,400
Speaker 12: that we are consumers and we buy more healthcare. Do

1637
01:41:45,479 --> 01:41:46,680
Speaker 12: I wish we were healthier?

1638
01:41:46,840 --> 01:41:47,479
Speaker 2: Do I wish.

1639
01:41:47,360 --> 01:41:50,479
Speaker 12: Maha was more successful? Of course I do, But I

1640
01:41:50,600 --> 01:41:53,280
Speaker 12: think it's not bad that we're consuming more health care

1641
01:41:53,320 --> 01:41:55,840
Speaker 12: as a private capitalist economy.

1642
01:41:56,080 --> 01:41:56,760
Speaker 2: Good for us.

1643
01:41:56,920 --> 01:41:59,320
Speaker 12: We're choosing where to spend our dollars, and apparently it's

1644
01:41:59,360 --> 01:41:59,960
Speaker 12: on good health.

1645
01:42:00,320 --> 01:42:04,320
Speaker 2: That's an interesting take regarding volume. Let's move it over

1646
01:42:04,400 --> 01:42:07,519
Speaker 2: to Iran and these oil prices, which this week has

1647
01:42:07,560 --> 01:42:10,479
Speaker 2: not only seen below one hundred dollars, it is now

1648
01:42:10,520 --> 01:42:12,599
Speaker 2: seen above one hundred dollars. We've seen the West Texas

1649
01:42:12,680 --> 01:42:14,840
Speaker 2: crewed higher than the Brent crud, the West Texas coming

1650
01:42:14,880 --> 01:42:16,800
Speaker 2: out of the ground, the Brent crud coming out of

1651
01:42:17,000 --> 01:42:18,680
Speaker 2: out of the oceans. That is the way I give

1652
01:42:18,720 --> 01:42:22,479
Speaker 2: the basic general idea of what these two different oils are,

1653
01:42:22,520 --> 01:42:25,400
Speaker 2: and these are the two that I look at. Then

1654
01:42:25,439 --> 01:42:27,840
Speaker 2: we have the conversation of President Trump's addressed to the

1655
01:42:27,920 --> 01:42:30,640
Speaker 2: nation where he says to Europe, go over to the

1656
01:42:30,640 --> 01:42:33,200
Speaker 2: straight of horror moves and go take care of your

1657
01:42:33,240 --> 01:42:35,160
Speaker 2: things and go get your oil or buy it from us.

1658
01:42:35,280 --> 01:42:37,400
Speaker 2: But the straight of horn Moves is going to open naturally.

1659
01:42:37,400 --> 01:42:39,680
Speaker 2: Don't worry about it, which is his way of saying, hey,

1660
01:42:39,760 --> 01:42:41,640
Speaker 2: oil markets, you're being ridiculous. It is all going to

1661
01:42:41,680 --> 01:42:43,720
Speaker 2: be fine. I don't know if that works or not.

1662
01:42:44,240 --> 01:42:46,840
Speaker 2: But let's talk about what this war is doing to

1663
01:42:47,280 --> 01:42:49,799
Speaker 2: a worldwide economy. What do you see?

1664
01:42:50,520 --> 01:42:52,479
Speaker 12: Well, what I think the president is doing is in

1665
01:42:52,600 --> 01:42:55,320
Speaker 12: concept correct. Europe needs to get their butt in gear

1666
01:42:55,360 --> 01:42:57,639
Speaker 12: and get over and open up the straight of hor Moves.

1667
01:42:57,960 --> 01:43:00,679
Speaker 12: But he's wrong, and that we're going to be fine.

1668
01:43:01,320 --> 01:43:04,160
Speaker 12: Oil is a fungible asset. It's like when you pour

1669
01:43:04,240 --> 01:43:06,880
Speaker 12: a glass of water into a bucket of water. It's

1670
01:43:06,880 --> 01:43:10,880
Speaker 12: indistinguishable from the rest. Can we have laws and rules

1671
01:43:10,880 --> 01:43:13,800
Speaker 12: that prevent other countries from using our oil? Can we

1672
01:43:13,840 --> 01:43:17,240
Speaker 12: be independent, self sustaining. Of course we can, but that

1673
01:43:17,320 --> 01:43:19,960
Speaker 12: doesn't matter because the rest of the world still needs

1674
01:43:20,000 --> 01:43:23,320
Speaker 12: oil and we are not an independent economy. We are

1675
01:43:23,720 --> 01:43:26,479
Speaker 12: touched by others. As much as as Trump doesn't like that,

1676
01:43:27,000 --> 01:43:29,280
Speaker 12: we can lead the world, I mean, the world can

1677
01:43:29,360 --> 01:43:32,040
Speaker 12: lead us into a recession. Number two thousand and eight.

1678
01:43:32,520 --> 01:43:35,519
Speaker 12: We led the world into a recession. Guess what can

1679
01:43:35,560 --> 01:43:37,839
Speaker 12: happen now? The world can lead us into a recession.

1680
01:43:38,080 --> 01:43:41,160
Speaker 12: The fact that we just saw today Turkey, which regulates

1681
01:43:41,160 --> 01:43:44,240
Speaker 12: the price of energy, is going to increase the price

1682
01:43:44,280 --> 01:43:46,640
Speaker 12: of energy for the first time in ten years. It

1683
01:43:46,680 --> 01:43:48,560
Speaker 12: was either Italy or France. I forgot to see the

1684
01:43:48,600 --> 01:43:52,400
Speaker 12: byline on that have decided they're going to continue subsidizing

1685
01:43:52,840 --> 01:43:56,440
Speaker 12: fuel for their citizens. Let me tell you the insanity

1686
01:43:56,439 --> 01:43:59,200
Speaker 12: of this. Stop subsidizing your citizens and go open up

1687
01:43:59,200 --> 01:44:02,280
Speaker 12: the straits. Then you don't have to subsidize your citizens.

1688
01:44:02,560 --> 01:44:05,960
Speaker 12: So these countries are making bad decisions because they're afraid

1689
01:44:06,280 --> 01:44:08,680
Speaker 12: to deal with the problem. Trump was brave enough to

1690
01:44:08,720 --> 01:44:10,920
Speaker 12: deal with the problem. They need to go out and

1691
01:44:10,960 --> 01:44:13,960
Speaker 12: deal with it. And I don't know that the president

1692
01:44:14,000 --> 01:44:16,799
Speaker 12: is going to walk away and let others open the straits.

1693
01:44:17,040 --> 01:44:18,679
Speaker 12: I don't think he can do that. I think they've

1694
01:44:18,680 --> 01:44:21,320
Speaker 12: got to be open and everyone else's chicken. So he's

1695
01:44:21,320 --> 01:44:22,960
Speaker 12: probably going to be the one that has to do it.

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01:44:23,439 --> 01:44:25,880
Speaker 2: I don't disagree with that. By the way, I don't

1697
01:44:25,880 --> 01:44:28,840
Speaker 2: disagree with that. The idea that President Trump's going to

1698
01:44:28,880 --> 01:44:32,240
Speaker 2: say it is and it's going to keep oil to

1699
01:44:32,280 --> 01:44:35,720
Speaker 2: an argument artificially high or high. That's not something that

1700
01:44:35,800 --> 01:44:40,160
Speaker 2: is going to work going into midterms. It's not going

1701
01:44:40,200 --> 01:44:43,400
Speaker 2: to work for an economy large. But he does talk

1702
01:44:43,439 --> 01:44:46,600
Speaker 2: a lot about our oil production, our energy production. So

1703
01:44:47,479 --> 01:44:49,760
Speaker 2: he talks about us having more than everybody else, and

1704
01:44:49,800 --> 01:44:51,840
Speaker 2: we do have a lot of energy that we can

1705
01:44:52,000 --> 01:44:56,360
Speaker 2: afford to sell. The question is who's the buyer.

1706
01:45:00,080 --> 01:45:02,599
Speaker 12: Well, that's a great question, but let me fix one

1707
01:45:02,600 --> 01:45:04,479
Speaker 12: of the things that president said. I was a fan

1708
01:45:04,520 --> 01:45:06,080
Speaker 12: of his speech. I just wish he would have given

1709
01:45:06,120 --> 01:45:11,880
Speaker 12: it four weeks ago. Exactly. It's just okay, thank you

1710
01:45:11,920 --> 01:45:14,040
Speaker 12: for the information. We could have heard this four weeks ago.

1711
01:45:14,880 --> 01:45:17,360
Speaker 12: But he said some things that we're just technically not correct,

1712
01:45:17,360 --> 01:45:20,759
Speaker 12: which is typical Trump. You know, the most proven oil

1713
01:45:20,800 --> 01:45:23,520
Speaker 12: reserves are not the United States, as he said, it's Venezuela,

1714
01:45:23,520 --> 01:45:26,640
Speaker 12: it's Saudi Arabia, it's Russia. We are the biggest producer,

1715
01:45:27,040 --> 01:45:29,880
Speaker 12: we are extracting the most, and that is true, we're

1716
01:45:29,880 --> 01:45:34,479
Speaker 12: producing the most, but that's not the whole story. Give

1717
01:45:34,520 --> 01:45:37,639
Speaker 12: me your question again, because I got myself distracted the question.

1718
01:45:37,680 --> 01:45:40,679
Speaker 2: Mind a professor the question and we can answer thirty

1719
01:45:40,680 --> 01:45:45,200
Speaker 2: seconds or last, who's the buyer? The buyer is everybody.

1720
01:45:45,600 --> 01:45:47,000
Speaker 2: It's a fungible market.

1721
01:45:47,160 --> 01:45:50,360
Speaker 12: You cannot distinguish unless we have laws banning the sale

1722
01:45:50,439 --> 01:45:53,679
Speaker 12: of our energy to other countries. Everyone is the buyer

1723
01:45:53,720 --> 01:45:56,920
Speaker 12: of everyone's oil. That's why restrictions on Russia didn't work.

1724
01:45:57,080 --> 01:45:59,720
Speaker 12: That's why restrictions on Iran have never worked. It is

1725
01:45:59,760 --> 01:46:02,360
Speaker 12: a ungible ascid and everyone is a buyer for everyone

1726
01:46:02,360 --> 01:46:03,000
Speaker 12: else's oil.

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01:46:04,000 --> 01:46:06,519
Speaker 2: We'll dig more into this, doctor Matt Will, economist at

1728
01:46:06,560 --> 01:46:09,320
Speaker 2: the University of Indianapolis. I appreciate you being with us.

1729
01:46:09,479 --> 01:46:12,559
Speaker 2: More coming up, I'm Tony Katz. Bring on the final

1730
01:46:12,640 --> 01:46:16,280
Speaker 2: four Yukon in Illinois, Michigan and Arizona. And it's all

1731
01:46:16,280 --> 01:46:19,639
Speaker 2: happening quite literally right down the road from me, Tony Katz.

1732
01:46:20,040 --> 01:46:22,600
Speaker 2: Tony Katz today the final four in the National Championship

1733
01:46:22,720 --> 01:46:27,120
Speaker 2: for the NCAA Men's basketball that is taking place in Indianapolis, Indiana.

1734
01:46:27,200 --> 01:46:31,599
Speaker 2: Which if I throw a rock, I will probably get

1735
01:46:31,640 --> 01:46:33,479
Speaker 2: in trouble for throwing a rock. But I can hit it.

1736
01:46:34,320 --> 01:46:36,559
Speaker 2: I can throw very very far. It's gonna be a

1737
01:46:36,560 --> 01:46:42,440
Speaker 2: good time. I hope everybody enjoyed. Listen, my brackets destroyed,

1738
01:46:43,400 --> 01:46:46,919
Speaker 2: like your brackets destroyed, just gone. I Purdue in Houston

1739
01:46:47,200 --> 01:46:50,040
Speaker 2: in the finals. So yeah, things did not work out

1740
01:46:50,120 --> 01:46:52,320
Speaker 2: too well for Tony. But it's gonna be a good time.

1741
01:46:53,040 --> 01:46:56,719
Speaker 2: It's gonna be a good weekend, and the bets, the

1742
01:46:56,760 --> 01:47:01,680
Speaker 2: betting that is gonna flow. I only want if there

1743
01:47:01,800 --> 01:47:04,599
Speaker 2: is going to be soon, if it hasn't already started,

1744
01:47:05,479 --> 01:47:12,720
Speaker 2: a pushback to the betting, a pushback to the proliferation,

1745
01:47:12,920 --> 01:47:17,160
Speaker 2: the ease to which Americans can just press a couple

1746
01:47:17,240 --> 01:47:21,920
Speaker 2: buttons on their phone and then risk it all. I

1747
01:47:22,000 --> 01:47:25,960
Speaker 2: don't have a desire to make anything illegal. I just

1748
01:47:26,120 --> 01:47:28,960
Speaker 2: wonder if people are going to are already in the

1749
01:47:29,000 --> 01:47:30,960
Speaker 2: place of self regulating and saying, oh, this can't be

1750
01:47:31,000 --> 01:47:33,439
Speaker 2: good for me, this can't be good. By the way,

1751
01:47:33,479 --> 01:47:35,200
Speaker 2: I don't mind those apps. I don't have any of

1752
01:47:35,200 --> 01:47:37,960
Speaker 2: those apps on my phone. I do not do that stuff.

1753
01:47:38,320 --> 01:47:39,880
Speaker 2: I don't mind it. I might other people doing. I

1754
01:47:39,920 --> 01:47:43,559
Speaker 2: think it's totally legal. I just don't. I think for

1755
01:47:43,640 --> 01:47:46,960
Speaker 2: that reason, I wonder if others feel that way as well.

1756
01:47:47,360 --> 01:47:50,400
Speaker 2: Find everything at tonykats dot com. Happy Easter, I'll catch

1757
01:47:50,400 --> 01:47:51,360
Speaker 2: you Monday. Take care.

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Speaker 11: Yeah,