WEBVTT - Mac & Bone Show - Lomas Brown Interview  

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<v Speaker 1>Let's talk about the Lions, the offense, the way the

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<v Speaker 1>defense is playing, and how they match up with the Panthers,

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<v Speaker 1>with a man that played in the trenches in the

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<v Speaker 1>NFL for years. He is and has been for a

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<v Speaker 1>while now, the color analyst on the Lions radio network.

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<v Speaker 1>He is Lomas Brown, and he joins us on the

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<v Speaker 1>Mac and Bone show here in Charlotte. Lomas, what's going on, man?

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<v Speaker 2>How you doing? I'm doing great, guys. Feeling good, man.

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<v Speaker 2>I like it. I love the energy, too. I can

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<v Speaker 2>feel it. I can hear it in your voices.

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<v Speaker 1>That's cool, and I know you're going to bring the energy, too.

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<v Speaker 1>We've talked to you in the past. From the outside

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<v Speaker 1>looking in, do you think the Lions are licking their

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<v Speaker 1>chops over the Panthers' injury situation? Horn and Mike Jackson

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<v Speaker 1>both out. I mean, it's going to be three backups

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<v Speaker 1>on the offensive line. Do you feel like the Lions

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<v Speaker 1>are looking at the Panthers as vulnerable? Do you feel

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<v Speaker 1>that way?

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<v Speaker 2>I'll say this, welcome to our world. I mean, we've

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<v Speaker 2>been dealing with this all year long with Kirby Branch,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sorry, Brian Branch, Kirby Joseph, you know, Avante Maddox.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, we're depleted of safeties and we lost one

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<v Speaker 2>in our corner. So we've been dealing with this all

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<v Speaker 2>season long. And, you know, again, on the defensive side

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<v Speaker 2>of the ball, you see we haven't played well and

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<v Speaker 2>it's been because of the injury. So I think, yes,

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<v Speaker 2>the Lions, especially on the offensive side of the ball,

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<v Speaker 2>they have to be looking at this game as a

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<v Speaker 2>game offensively to try to get right. Because even though

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<v Speaker 2>we put 31 points up in each of our first games,

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<v Speaker 2>our offense still hadn't been clicking the way it's been

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<v Speaker 2>clicking in the past. And it is a concern, and

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<v Speaker 2>those guys are trying to remedy that. And we're hoping

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<v Speaker 2>that Sunday that can happen for the Detroit Lions.

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<v Speaker 3>How much of a concern on our end do you

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<v Speaker 3>think it's going to be? No J.C. Horn, Mike Jackson

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<v Speaker 3>in the secondary against those wideouts. We've been worried about Gibbs-Lomas,

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<v Speaker 3>but now those wideouts versus our secondary, how big of

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<v Speaker 3>a problem will that be on the Panther side?

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<v Speaker 2>It could be a major problem. As you say, man,

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<v Speaker 2>we bring out Jameis Williams. We have Amon Ross St. Brown,

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<v Speaker 2>probably one of the best wide receivers in this game

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<v Speaker 2>at catching the ball and running routes. We got the

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<v Speaker 2>young fella in Isaac Tesla, who we're trying to incorporate

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<v Speaker 2>in our game plan. And then we have the reliable

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<v Speaker 2>Sam Laporta. Very, very good tight end. So we have

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<v Speaker 2>weapons to attack you guys, I just think from what

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<v Speaker 2>we've been going through, the best way to attack a

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<v Speaker 2>great passing offense is by getting those front four, front

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<v Speaker 2>five guys to get pressure sacks hits on your quarterback.

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<v Speaker 2>If your quarterback doesn't have a lot of time to

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<v Speaker 2>stand back there and scan the field and let those

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<v Speaker 2>routes develop, then I think that can help your secondary

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<v Speaker 2>so much. And that's the same formula we're looking for

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<v Speaker 2>here in Detroit while our secondary tries to mend itself.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, no, that's a good point. And we definitely want

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<v Speaker 1>to talk more about how Bryce might be able to

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<v Speaker 1>take advantage of your secondary. That's a happier conversation for us.

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<v Speaker 1>But I want to ask you about your O-line, Lomas.

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<v Speaker 1>You are playing a rookie that we know in the

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<v Speaker 1>Carolinas from Clemson and Blake Miller. It seems like he's

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<v Speaker 1>been pretty good. Sewell's on the other side. Like how

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<v Speaker 1>has your past protection been, you know, and can Carolina

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<v Speaker 1>get pressure on golf?

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<v Speaker 2>What do you think? Yeah. First of all, the big,

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<v Speaker 2>the big fella has some glorious hair, as you can

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<v Speaker 2>see from the commercial with Jared. So he has a very,

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<v Speaker 2>very lovely looking lock of hair, but, but he has

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<v Speaker 2>been fantastic, man. I've been watching Blake since training camp.

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<v Speaker 2>because of the nature of the position. And I tell

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<v Speaker 2>you what, man, been impressed since day one with some

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<v Speaker 2>of the little things that he was able to do.

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<v Speaker 2>Great pass sets, hands in the ready position, keeping his

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<v Speaker 2>shoulders parallel to the offensive line. Just little things like

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<v Speaker 2>that that you're watching rookies do. They normally struggle with that.

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<v Speaker 2>And he came in because of all the college experience

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<v Speaker 2>he had. He's just stepped right in there. So he's

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<v Speaker 2>part of that line. He's a part of what makes

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<v Speaker 2>our offensive line go. He's been very, very valuable for

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<v Speaker 2>us this year so far. So I'm definitely looking forward

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<v Speaker 2>to him coming. playing on Sunday. He's been very good

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<v Speaker 2>for us this year so far.

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<v Speaker 3>I was actually just texting with former NFL defensive lineman

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<v Speaker 3>and coach, Brenton Buckner, about this during the commercial break there.

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<v Speaker 3>The Panthers had a ton of problems week one with

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<v Speaker 3>the Ben Johnson offense, 59 points given up. How much

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<v Speaker 3>of the DNA of Ben Johnson's offense is still paramount

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<v Speaker 3>with the Lions offense?

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<v Speaker 2>That's a great question because it's still something. You can

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<v Speaker 2>see some of the residue, and it's good residue, of

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<v Speaker 2>Ben Johnson left on this offense. Of course, Drew Petzin,

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<v Speaker 2>our new offensive coordinator, is putting his stamp on this team.

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<v Speaker 2>But it's things that you see every now and then,

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<v Speaker 2>or more so than every now and then. It's a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of things that you see that Ben Johnson does.

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<v Speaker 2>instilled in this office that we're still using especially uh

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<v Speaker 2>with jameer gibbs right now who's become pretty much uh

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<v Speaker 2>i would say i hate to say a poor man's

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<v Speaker 2>version of barry because all the money jameer just got

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<v Speaker 2>but another version a very rich version of barry sanders

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<v Speaker 2>how we're using this guy, especially coming out the backfield,

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<v Speaker 2>catching the ball, some of the moves he can make

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<v Speaker 2>in the run game. We're coming back with some of

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<v Speaker 2>our trickeration, some of our trick plays. We're starting to

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<v Speaker 2>incorporate those more into our offense. And, you know, that

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<v Speaker 2>was a big staple of Ben Johnson when he was here.

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<v Speaker 2>So you can see some of it there. But Drew

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<v Speaker 2>Petsine is more and more putting his fingerprint on this

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<v Speaker 2>offense each and every week.

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<v Speaker 1>We're talking with Lomas Brown, former O-lineman in the NFL,

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<v Speaker 1>Detroit Lions. radio analyst. I just want to say something.

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<v Speaker 1>Six time all pro Lomas Brown.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I got to, I'm underselling. I'm underselling baby. All right, Lomas,

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<v Speaker 1>let's go to y'all's defense. Cause I do feel like

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<v Speaker 1>maybe that's where maybe the hope lies for us to

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<v Speaker 1>take advantage of all those secondary injuries. Y'all been giving

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<v Speaker 1>up a ton of pass yards. There's no secret why,

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<v Speaker 1>but to your point earlier in the interview, a pass

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<v Speaker 1>rush can negate that the Panthers are banged up on

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<v Speaker 1>the O-line and How has that dynamic worked? I know

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<v Speaker 1>Aiden Hutchinson's been good. How has it worked? Because even

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<v Speaker 1>though y'all have had some good pass rush, you still

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<v Speaker 1>have been vulnerable at the back end. How has that

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<v Speaker 1>played out this year?

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<v Speaker 2>You're so right about that. And the thing about it is,

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<v Speaker 2>so this is kind of what I expect you guys

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<v Speaker 2>to do. I expect you guys to slide the line.

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<v Speaker 2>I expect you guys to chip in. I expect you

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<v Speaker 2>guys to put the tight end over to Aiden Hutchinson's

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<v Speaker 2>side so you can get maybe one or two guys

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<v Speaker 2>on him. But what that means is the other guys

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<v Speaker 2>on that defensive line, I'm sorry, the other guys on

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<v Speaker 2>that defensive line, they have one-on-one matchups. And that's when

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<v Speaker 2>you have to win your one-on-one matchups. When you got

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<v Speaker 2>a dominant guy that you're going to pay a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of attention to, like Aiden Hutchinson, then those other guys

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<v Speaker 2>that got one-on-one blocks, they have to be able to

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<v Speaker 2>defeat those one-on-one blocks. And it's the same with us.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, on our defensive side, trying to attack you guys,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, that's... I'm sorry, that side has to be. So... Again,

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<v Speaker 2>one-on-one matchups, those guys have to win those one-on-one matchups.

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<v Speaker 2>That's kind of how we did it last game when

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<v Speaker 2>you see DJ Wanham get two sacks. You've seen Aline

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<v Speaker 2>McNeil get a sack. You know, that's what has to

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<v Speaker 2>happen to affect these great offenses because if these quarterbacks...

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<v Speaker 2>if they have time to sit back and scan the field,

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<v Speaker 2>or if pre-snap they can see where you're bringing the

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<v Speaker 2>pressure from or bringing the blitz from, they have blitz beaters.

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<v Speaker 2>These quarterbacks are too good in this league to show

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<v Speaker 2>them what you're going to do. So that's part of

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<v Speaker 2>it is disguising it, but yet still winning those one-on-one

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<v Speaker 2>matchups when you have them.

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<v Speaker 3>Lomas, you spent a decade, 85 to 95, as a Lion.

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<v Speaker 3>So that means from 89 to 95, you were blocking

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<v Speaker 3>for Barry Sanders. I sometimes go on YouTube and just watch, like,

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<v Speaker 3>the 45-minute highlight videos of his best moments. Do you

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<v Speaker 3>have a favorite run?

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<v Speaker 2>I love the one.

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<v Speaker 3>Was it against the– there's one against the Patriots, right,

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<v Speaker 3>when he turns the DB sideways and the guy gets confused?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes. Yes, yes. Look, there's so many. It's that one

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<v Speaker 2>against the Patriots. You can think about the one against

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<v Speaker 2>the Chicago Bears where everybody had them pinned in and

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<v Speaker 2>he hurdled the guy and took it to the end zone.

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<v Speaker 2>You could talk about the one versus Buffalo. It was

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<v Speaker 2>only a two-yard touchdown, but that's the one where he

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<v Speaker 2>put his hand on the ground and pirouette all the

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<v Speaker 2>way back around to get in the end zone. Or

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<v Speaker 2>you could talk about the one against the Dallas Cowboys

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<v Speaker 2>when we were in the playoff game when he bounced

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<v Speaker 2>and Tony Casillas was just standing there and Barry was

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<v Speaker 2>behind him running. It's just so many. I'll tell you this.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll say this real fast. For me, every Monday, every

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<v Speaker 2>Monday we went and watched film, myself and Kevin Glover,

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<v Speaker 2>it would be five plays. Every Monday you would say, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>my God, how did he get out of that? It

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<v Speaker 2>may be a one-yard gain. It may be a two-yard loss.

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<v Speaker 2>But it's going to be the best one-yard or two-yard

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<v Speaker 2>loss you've ever seen in your life. Yes, sir.

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<v Speaker 1>I still think he's the greatest, man. I still do.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm with you. To this minute. All right, last question

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<v Speaker 1>about the current Lions, I would ask. And Bone kind

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<v Speaker 1>of went there with his question about remnants of Ben

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<v Speaker 1>Johnson's offense. But I think there is a feeling in

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<v Speaker 1>the football world that, hey, they're just not the same

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<v Speaker 1>team as they were when Ben Johnson was calling the plays.

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<v Speaker 1>And on the other side, Aaron Glenn was a defensive coordinator.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you push back on that, or do you feel like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that has hurt us a fair amount?

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<v Speaker 2>What do you think? No, I mean, I think any

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<v Speaker 2>time you lose coordinators that become head coaches, that tells you, one,

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<v Speaker 2>how great they were because they're head coaches now. So

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<v Speaker 2>anytime you lose coordinators like that, yes, it is going

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<v Speaker 2>to be a setback for this team. And not just coordinators.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't forget, we lost players, too. When you talk about

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<v Speaker 2>Kalief Raymond and some of the other players that we lost.

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<v Speaker 2>All for the offense and the defensive side of the ball,

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<v Speaker 2>either due to free agency or injury. So, yes, it's

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<v Speaker 2>going to hurt. But I think now, I think we're

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<v Speaker 2>starting to get our footing and our identity. We're starting

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<v Speaker 2>to claim that. Look, this is a new NFL. Now

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<v Speaker 2>it takes time. takes you to week three or four

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<v Speaker 2>in the regular season to find out what type of

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<v Speaker 2>team you have because you don't play the preseason. Oh,

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<v Speaker 2>my goodness. These first games of the season are like

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<v Speaker 2>preseason games for teams. So you don't really know what

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<v Speaker 2>you have. I think now you can start saying, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>this is the identity of our team. This is how

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<v Speaker 2>our team is going to look, and this is how

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<v Speaker 2>our team is going to win if we win games.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, let me do this right. Lomas Brown says,

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<v Speaker 1>is a Super Bowl champion, and he is a six-time All-Pro,

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<v Speaker 1>and he's pretty darn good at doing the talking about

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<v Speaker 1>football thing, too. Lomas, thank you for coming on, man.

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<v Speaker 1>Enjoy Charlotte this week. Unfortunately, it'll be raining like crazy,

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<v Speaker 1>it sounds like, but hey, we appreciate you, man.

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<v Speaker 2>Be good. Hey, I appreciate you guys having me.

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, Lomas.

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<v Speaker 1>There you go, Lomas Brown.