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Speaker 2: Welcome everybody to another episode of this Mike still One podcast.

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Speaker 2: My name is Kennisby's joining on the show. It's Rod

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Speaker 2: and Mike, Spike and b are out this week but

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Speaker 2: filling in for them heavy lifting.

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Speaker 3: We gotta die. What's up? What up y'all? Yeah, he's

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Speaker 3: been on.

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Speaker 4: The show before, so some of you o gs, you know,

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Speaker 4: maybe familiar with the name and the voice.

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Speaker 5: He's been across all platforms, frames and you and you

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Speaker 5: watch movies and TV.

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Speaker 3: I'll be getting off all my takes. Listen and be

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Speaker 3: like all the niggas got this wrong. Was fighting.

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Speaker 4: Alphab but yeah, I definitely but I definitely check y'all

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Speaker 4: out of it all the time for sure on frames too.

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Speaker 3: So yeah, listen, I listened to all of it.

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Speaker 5: We gotta get you in the phrase, man, gotta get

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Speaker 5: you on.

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Speaker 1: I just never thought about it, I guess, so you

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Speaker 1: never like insecured, know anything?

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Speaker 3: I watched insecure and or was heavy watching and.

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Speaker 2: Or But but yeah, man, so we're gonna go ahead

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Speaker 2: and get into the show. If if you are a

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Speaker 2: patron you probably have heard the wild story Mike just told.

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Speaker 2: If not, definitely, Uh sign up. You really don't want

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Speaker 2: to miss miss that uh storytime with with Mike.

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Speaker 3: It's definitely a treat.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, we have a live today, so this episode

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Speaker 2: will probably not run as long, but but you know,

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Speaker 2: definitely check out the live doing the first half of

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Speaker 2: Stranger Things. It should be out on the frames per

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Speaker 2: second YouTube channel, so check that out. But let's go

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Speaker 2: ahead and get into the show man because we don't

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Speaker 2: have a lot of time. We start off with our

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Speaker 2: fund facts.

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Speaker 1: Do you have some rebu Okay, I got some fun

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Speaker 1: facts here. Today is November thirtieth. A couple of birthdays

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Speaker 1: were celebrating today. Ridley Scott, Ridley Scott, the Alien Lade Runner.

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Speaker 1: Y'all know Realley Scott, Gail Garcia, Bernald Morris Perros, which

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Speaker 1: is an incredible film. He also had a movie called

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Speaker 1: The King and he was just in a film, but

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Speaker 1: I haven't I haven't watched it yet, but he's an

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Speaker 6: Charlie Chrisom, first.

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Speaker 3: African American woman.

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Speaker 6: Likeded to you ask Congress. This is in the forties.

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Speaker 1: I should write the date down, but sometime in the forties, Shirley.

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Speaker 3: Chris, Chris, Shirley Chisholm. Jesus, I'm like, she ran, she

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Speaker 3: ran for press. I don't know Chrissy still, he's still.

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Speaker 3: I was like, I can't be talking about I was listening.

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Speaker 3: I don't know. I was like, that's what I'm saying.

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Speaker 3: I'm like, Chisolm Chisholm. Yes, you know this person man

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know her. Literally was like the first

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Speaker 3: Definitely no movie. I don't remember her, don't have no president.

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Speaker 4: It was also kind of annoying because like everything Kamala

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Speaker 4: was doing, they were trying to see she like carrying

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Speaker 4: the legacy of Shirley Chisholm, and you like you not you,

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Speaker 4: He's seen it.

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Speaker 1: You know that looks like my grandmother Leanabe.

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Speaker 3: That's crazy.

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Speaker 1: No, but but but props to her. Happy birthday to her.

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Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, she did some real work

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Speaker 1: Wait, oh my god, Okay, a little lesser, lesser important

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Speaker 4: Yeah, one of them eighties videos you had to see

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Speaker 4: Nick's birthdays and p Dressed the Beatnick slash Happy birthday

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Speaker 1: Twenty eighteen, George w Or I'm sorry. George H. W.

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Speaker 1: The last time I went off on a tangent thinking

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Speaker 1: A couple albums came out today I'm run through these

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Speaker 1: nineteen eighty two. Michael Jackson released Thriller y'all on this

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Speaker 1: Michael Jackson. Nineteen seventy nine, Pink Floyd released The Wall.

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Speaker 1: Two thousand and four, NAS released Street Disciple and two

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Speaker 1: Stuff that happened on this day. Also, Tiny Tim died.

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Speaker 1: But I feel like you're probably don't know who Tiny Tim.

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Speaker 2: They have a remake of the Scrooge on Apple called

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Speaker 2: I started it, but I was like, I was going

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Speaker 1: Just watch Scrooge if you want to watch like a

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I remember that one, but when I saw that

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Speaker 4: Do y'all have like a Christmas movie that y'all like

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Speaker 3: Go to? Yeah, a bunch of them.

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Speaker 1: Favorite time of year, bro, all the feel good ships,

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Speaker 1: God bless us everyone.

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Speaker 4: I think annually it used to be of course, the Ogs,

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Speaker 5: I do like Home Alone, Okay, Home Alone is cool.

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Speaker 5: The music and that, like it's a good vibe.

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Speaker 3: No, I don't think so. I've never been a felish

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Speaker 3: done that on the frames. I feel like we did.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, but yours was Grimlins.

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Speaker 1: No, I'm trying to know what else people have, Yeah, Diehard,

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Speaker 1: I don't remember what mine were.

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Speaker 3: Probably some black Christmas, some ship. There's probably hard movies. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: didn't they remake that?

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Speaker 6: Yes, it was bad Christmas.

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Speaker 3: It was real bad.

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Speaker 1: Just watch the original with Margot Kidder and that's all

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Speaker 3: What are you about to say, Jalen?

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Speaker 1: Just this NOS album is as good as.

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Speaker 3: Who the fuck said that that? Oh you said we?

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Speaker 6: I thought you meant like somebody here said that.

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Speaker 1: Besides Rod, I can't well Ken might say that ship too.

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Speaker 1: You can't listen to Spike, Spike. That's the reason why

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Speaker 1: I don't. I mean for people that like jay Z,

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Speaker 1: I guess that's not a crazy take because they probably

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Speaker 1: both have as many bad albums.

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Speaker 5: I don't know if Jay has as many bad albums

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Speaker 1: Because NOS only has if you consider Street Disciple, which

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Speaker 1: I don't consider that a bad project. It's a little bloated,

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Speaker 1: it has too many songs.

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Speaker 3: Blueprint too is bloated.

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Speaker 6: There's nothing. There's no other bad NOS project.

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Speaker 4: He just has filler joints to that part, Like I am,

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Speaker 4: there's like high points on there and then you're like

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Speaker 4: That has been a thing that people have been saying

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Speaker 3: That's when it started to kind of see.

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Speaker 1: I even went back to what's the one that I

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Speaker 1: didn't like that we reviewed Magic?

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Speaker 3: No, Magic is fine, Life is good? Back to that.

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Speaker 3: It's really good. I don't know why I didn't like

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Speaker 3: but we reviewed it and I was like, this is

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Speaker 4: He did that Life is good, and then there was

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Speaker 4: that was when Kanye EP came out, and then he

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Speaker 3: That's great.

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Speaker 1: So the more I think about it, I don't think

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Speaker 4: I think the thing is that people have always said

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Speaker 4: it's the beat selection, you know, and Jay doesn't normally

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Speaker 4: get knocked for that part of it. They might be like,

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Speaker 4: oh this, you know whatever, But I don't know, I

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Speaker 4: get it.

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Speaker 1: I'm one of the few people that I don't really

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Speaker 1: care about NAS's beats as long as he's rapping. Well,

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Speaker 1: I don't even pay attention to the beats.

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Speaker 4: curious now, right what would what would be your worst

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Speaker 5: That's when he doing that a ship that Yeah, all

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Speaker 4: And I feel like he and this is all like hot,

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Speaker 4: to just Blaze, No Brazy, give one of his best.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, listen, love that song.

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Speaker 4: You look at the other parts of the other songs

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Speaker 4: I just think that, like, you know, he's not always

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Speaker 4: You want that Primo record though, like, because they're talking

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Speaker 3: Know they put a date on it. Call your expectations.

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Speaker 1: I've oh yeah, yeah, the last two years I'm with you, I'm.

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Speaker 2: We will be. He's been pushing for it, but I did.

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Speaker 2: It's it's incredible.

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Speaker 3: Really, no, he told me about it. I haven't listen

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Speaker 3: It's like magical. That's crazy.

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Speaker 4: It's I just didn't I just didn't expect it to

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Speaker 2: It kind of set a bar though, like because you're

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Speaker 4: Like, after you gave us a mob Deep record, a

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Speaker 3: Yeah? Okay, you know ghost Face, ray Que, Big L.

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Speaker 3: I didn't listen to the Big L.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you're not really like you wouldn't miss anything if

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Speaker 1: I don't love Oh. He didn't care for it either.

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Speaker 3: He heard everything on it, so for him versus already released.

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Speaker 2: No, it's just they basically remastered a bunch of previous

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Speaker 1: I thought they went and got some versus day. I

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Speaker 1: I don't really need but Big L remastered. He sounds gritty.

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Speaker 1: I don't need him to sound all clean and pristine.

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Speaker 1: I'm I'm cool with all the other ship.

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Speaker 3: I'm good. Yeah, but the massive pill run has been

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Speaker 3: good though. Yeah, well we'll see.

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Speaker 1: I'm just not I'm not gonna get excited until I

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Speaker 3: So it was bad. Bro, it's bad he has he has.

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Speaker 6: Look, you're right, no, I disagree that was Nas.

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Speaker 3: The rapping was the problem on that out them. It

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Speaker 4: I felt like they said NAS just was what Nas

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Speaker 6: Yeah, but his bars weren't even that good.

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Speaker 4: But I don't know.

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Speaker 1: Interesting that's one will slip though. But I'm hoping the

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Speaker 4: He kills his Daylight Primos on this day Love record,

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Speaker 4: when I get.

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Speaker 2: Home, yeah, uh, best saying what you got right, best

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Speaker 4: I appreciate the last week, nice man, I appreciate your service.

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Speaker 3: Right negative last week I did scene.

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Speaker 4: Okay, okay, hey, man, tell me what I got.

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Speaker 3: I was like, look, it could go. It could be best,

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Speaker 3: it could be worse. It was the Rock Nation.

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Speaker 5: You don't know if you saw that the streaming service,

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Speaker 3: Depending on how you feel, we'll see what happen. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: Jerry still out, that's right. But yeah, this came across

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Speaker 5: I don't know if any of you are familiar with this,

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Speaker 3: It also has bordering, a.

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Speaker 5: Mutual aid section of physical map, and an employment help section.

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Speaker 3: It's called Maria. You heard of that, m I I

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Speaker 1: I was calling it Mariah, but it's so you know it.

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Speaker 1: I always thought it was Mariah.

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Speaker 3: Man. It's really dope, bro.

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Speaker 1: But didn't wasn't the controversy that they took it out

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Speaker 3: Controversy around there?

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Speaker 5: I don't know anyway, go ahead, but anyway, yeah, it's

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Speaker 5: These are things that we do amongst our friends, like

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Speaker 1: So, like you said, has tips for building up your

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Speaker 3: It's fucking man, this is crazy.

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Speaker 5: Like yeah, broadering section, like I said, lets you trade

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Speaker 5: Man, it just lets you tap right into the community, man.

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Speaker 5: So yeah, now this seems really dope. But it has

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Speaker 5: You can follow them on Instagram and then you can

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Speaker 4: Yes, I've not been on it ever, but yeah, and

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Speaker 3: So is this the Black Wall Street they've tried to create?

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Speaker 1: Black Wall Street is dope. That's that's across the street

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Speaker 3: It was actually really really cool. I've never heard of it.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's like often the in the tuck, it's like

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Speaker 3: To Black Wall Street.

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Speaker 5: But you can't see it, like you can't, you can't,

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Speaker 5: This is a sign like on the outside where you

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what I mean.

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Speaker 6: That's what I'm assuming.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I didn't know it was still happening. After I

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Speaker 3: I only know about it.

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Speaker 6: If you're in Atlanta. Neutral Life. Neutral Life.

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Speaker 4: But anyway, Yeah, I worked with a couple of businesses

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Speaker 5: No, it's actually a black Wall Street, like it's that's

440
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Speaker 5: the name of the It's like a marketplace almost.

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Speaker 1: It's like a little mall, but there's just there's just

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Speaker 1: not a lot of business because of what Rod is saying.

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Speaker 6: They horrible promo.

444
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Speaker 5: Its horribly promoted, like you didn't even know about it,

445
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Speaker 5: and that's crazy, like like and it's been going off.

446
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Speaker 4: For years really Yeah, yeah, yeah, because I remember they

447
00:23:11,400 --> 00:23:13,080
Speaker 4: had like an opening and they had brought out a

448
00:23:13,119 --> 00:23:16,040
Speaker 4: lot of rappers and poets to like do like a

449
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Speaker 4: thing to like kick it off and stuff.

450
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Speaker 5: So yeah, it's cool if you ever in that direction, Yeah,

451
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Speaker 5: swing through there and we can all.

452
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Speaker 6: Use the business.

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Speaker 3: M m.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, because, like I said, I know a couple that

455
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Speaker 5: that were doing business in there, and they weren't anymore.

456
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Speaker 6: Because they probably weren't getting any business.

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Speaker 5: Probably yeah, probably, yeah, probably wasn't beneficial for them.

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Speaker 3: Probably looked was it. Don't look for him at first

459
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Speaker 3: until they're like okay, y'all not promoting this?

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Speaker 4: Can I give you all random fun fact just absolutely

461
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Speaker 4: things movement y'all heard of ever heard of this? Who

462
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Speaker 4: was the father of dynamite? You ever hear of this

463
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Speaker 4: phrase father or dynamite. It's got somebody who's known as

464
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Speaker 4: the father dynamon.

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Speaker 3: Like he was like a creator.

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Speaker 6: His name would be James Ken.

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Speaker 3: We all know that pretty good. But no, so it

468
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Speaker 3: was this dude who was a chemist inventor.

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Speaker 4: He was like and he created literally like what became

470
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Speaker 4: known as dynamite stuff like that was like the first

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Speaker 4: opera that type of it was crazy.

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Speaker 3: You look like you know it wasn't didn't do my

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Speaker 3: solo for Open.

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Speaker 1: I fucking forgot about it today.

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Speaker 3: It was Friday. It was last Friday. No, no, next Friday.

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Speaker 3: Mine is mine? Is mine?

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Speaker 4: Okay, no, just real quick, I know we get to

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Speaker 4: the topics.

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Speaker 3: But like apparently.

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Speaker 4: His they had written his obituary prematurely, like they thought

481
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Speaker 4: he was he thought he died and so his obituary

482
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Speaker 4: and similar to like how nowadays, like all these news

483
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Speaker 4: stations have obituaries or like immemoriams done for really famous people.

484
00:25:03,400 --> 00:25:05,760
Speaker 4: Now like you know, even if you know whatever, just

485
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Speaker 4: so they're ready. So anyway, his apparently got to him,

486
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Speaker 4: like his right up and it said like da da

487
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Speaker 4: da da da father of dynamite and blah blah blah blah.

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Speaker 4: And he was just like that's crazy. Like he was like,

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Speaker 4: that's not the legacy.

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Speaker 3: That I want.

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Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, Like I don't want to

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Speaker 4: be known as the father Yeah, basically things that kill

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Speaker 4: people and stuff like that. So he ended up taking

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Speaker 4: a lot of his money, all of like everything that

495
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Speaker 4: he did, he poured it into research around science and

496
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Speaker 4: mathematics and English and stuff like that. And his name,

497
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Speaker 4: the sciencest name is Alfred Nobel and that's where we

498
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Speaker 4: get the Nobel Peace Price. Wow. All he ended up

499
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Speaker 4: changing his legacy just because it was presented with him.

500
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Speaker 4: He was like, I actually hate this. So now I'm

501
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Speaker 4: going to do all of this and now we know

502
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Speaker 4: him more for the prizes, for the you know, his advancements.

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Speaker 3: What's his name? One more time? Alfred Alfred Noble.

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Speaker 1: Shout out to Alfred Noble and Shirley Chisholm.

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Speaker 3: You right right, everybody, get up, shut out, shut up.

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Speaker 3: That's crazy. That's a good one. Damn me. I'm looking

507
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Speaker 3: at him now.

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Speaker 5: No bell can refer to Afro Nobel, the sweetish chemist,

509
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Speaker 5: an inventor and Donovan.

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Speaker 3: That is crazy. Dang, that's what's up. Keep a fun

511
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Speaker 3: fact on me.

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Speaker 5: See, I always thought it came from just the word nobody,

513
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Speaker 5: so so like yeah like the fact that. Yeah, but

514
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Speaker 5: it's spelled funny. Yeah it's French.

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Speaker 3: Dang.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, he was meant to be. His name was just

517
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Speaker 5: written in history. Yeah twice he killed people and all

518
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Speaker 5: about peace.

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Speaker 4: We ain't killing anybody, but he made it easier people. Yeah,

520
00:27:02,840 --> 00:27:07,000
Speaker 4: I need to make this right. You're about to do

521
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Speaker 4: me like this.

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Speaker 2: Not a good segue, yeah, because one of the two

523
00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:33,200
Speaker 2: National Guard members actually died. Sarah Beckstrom died from her

524
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Speaker 2: injuries during the attack that took place last week, and

525
00:27:39,400 --> 00:27:43,640
Speaker 2: Andrew Wolf is still fighting for his life. Both were

526
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Speaker 2: shot at close range near Farragut Square in downtown d

527
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Speaker 2: C just after fourteen hundred.

528
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Speaker 3: Est two o'clock on Wednesday.

529
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Speaker 2: Police have arrested the suspect, Ramanula Black and Wall Black

530
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Speaker 2: and Wall Remanula, twenty nine year old African Afghanistan who

531
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Speaker 2: was here?

532
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Speaker 3: What Afgan after Afghan.

533
00:28:13,119 --> 00:28:18,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, he's an Afghanistan. That's what you said Afghan.

534
00:28:18,800 --> 00:28:28,600
Speaker 3: I said African first time. Sounds like you're saying African Afghan. Yeah.

535
00:28:28,640 --> 00:28:37,520
Speaker 3: But anyway, so, yeah, so a lot has happened now.

536
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Speaker 2: They're you know, talking about suspending the program that asylum

537
00:28:46,120 --> 00:28:50,920
Speaker 2: and how he got in here, which was Trump's program

538
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Speaker 2: I saw, but he was from the first Yeah, I

539
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Speaker 2: think it was. It was saying that it was Trump's plan.

540
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Speaker 2: Biden just followed through on the plan and approved him

541
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Speaker 2: to get here. But this whole thing was.

542
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Speaker 4: The approval came under Trump this year, but but he

543
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Speaker 4: sought it under Biden's Okay, Like twenty twenty one, when

544
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Speaker 4: Biden was was in office, was when this particular person

545
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Speaker 4: was coming through that program that, like you said, probably

546
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Speaker 4: started in the first Trump administration. Yeah, you know what

547
00:29:27,480 --> 00:29:31,520
Speaker 4: I'm saying. But like then he was approved earlier this year,

548
00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:34,080
Speaker 4: like oh, you gotta sign them, and so for Trump

549
00:29:34,080 --> 00:29:36,720
Speaker 4: to then be like this is all Biden's fault.

550
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Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, that's the point.

551
00:29:37,800 --> 00:29:41,920
Speaker 4: It's what like you nobody's pointing out that your your

552
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Speaker 4: administration is the one that signed off on the paper.

553
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Speaker 1: Yeah, they're not pointing out that they fucking worked with

554
00:29:46,600 --> 00:29:50,000
Speaker 1: the CIA it's just crazy.

555
00:29:50,760 --> 00:29:55,959
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, so but yeah, there's definitely a lot

556
00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:57,920
Speaker 4: of political spin that's going on right now.

557
00:29:58,720 --> 00:30:00,920
Speaker 3: Uh, definitely leaving out some key facts.

558
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Speaker 4: It's unfortunate that, you know, the the National Guard were

559
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Speaker 4: shot and one was actually died. Also, unfortunately they were

560
00:30:10,240 --> 00:30:12,480
Speaker 4: there because they did not have to.

561
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Speaker 6: Be there anyone wanted.

562
00:30:15,280 --> 00:30:18,920
Speaker 4: It was literally they were like they were they were complaining,

563
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Speaker 4: like we don't have anything to do, like we're just

564
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Speaker 4: still right right, We're just here for whatever. I think

565
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Speaker 4: because weren't they from Washington State or.

566
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Speaker 2: Something like or the miss Bestroom was sitting here and

567
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Speaker 2: listening to twenty twenty three. It was a signed today

568
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Speaker 2: hundred three military dudy. But she volunteered to work in

569
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Speaker 2: Washington over the US holiday Thanksgiving.

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Speaker 4: I see, that's what Pam BONDI said, Oh, well we

571
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Speaker 4: believe her. Yeah, never mind're right, So I don't know

572
00:30:49,360 --> 00:30:51,760
Speaker 4: if that's true or not. Yeah, you can't.

573
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Speaker 3: Yeah, they said they're trying to get rid of cash.

574
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Speaker 3: But tell y'all see that he needs to Yeah yeah,

575
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Speaker 3: but I didn't see that.

576
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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's all a little headline about it. I just

577
00:31:01,080 --> 00:31:03,080
Speaker 4: kind of was like, Okay, I'm gonna make note of it.

578
00:31:03,560 --> 00:31:06,160
Speaker 1: Her face always looks like he just hit the best

579
00:31:06,160 --> 00:31:07,200
Speaker 1: crack you've ever seen.

580
00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:11,240
Speaker 3: Every time I see his face, it's just crazy.

581
00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:17,800
Speaker 2: You got param Bonni Patel, Janine Piiro whatever her name is, Like,

582
00:31:18,400 --> 00:31:21,960
Speaker 2: these are the people that's running the government with certain

583
00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:24,680
Speaker 2: aspects of the government, you know, which is crazy.

584
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Speaker 4: But but I can't remember I couldn't find the exact

585
00:31:28,440 --> 00:31:33,120
Speaker 4: but remember where they asked Trump about about it, and

586
00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:38,680
Speaker 4: he starts talking about all these like African countries that

587
00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:42,000
Speaker 4: he needs to yah yah naming they're.

588
00:31:41,880 --> 00:31:42,640
Speaker 3: Like terrible people.

589
00:31:42,680 --> 00:31:45,120
Speaker 5: He was talking about Minnesota and they're like, hey, like

590
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Speaker 5: this has to do with the.

591
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Speaker 3: Well, I'm just saying like, yeah, it was. It was

592
00:31:53,760 --> 00:31:54,600
Speaker 3: so weird.

593
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Speaker 2: I think that was on Thanksgiving, Yeah, and it just

594
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Speaker 2: you know, he just just started talking about there's some

595
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Speaker 2: hays in Minnesota.

596
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Speaker 3: I think it was Minnesota.

597
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Speaker 6: It was a weird response.

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Speaker 1: Even the reporter during that was like, so are you

599
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Speaker 1: saying that all of these people are like that because

600
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Speaker 1: of this, you know? And he was just like, oh no,

601
00:32:14,080 --> 00:32:15,960
Speaker 1: I know, you're your narrative is that they're all good people.

602
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Speaker 3: I know.

603
00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:19,800
Speaker 1: It's like, bro, You're just like, yeah, just cool being

604
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Speaker 1: racist in public.

605
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Speaker 3: Now you're just cool with it. This is amazing. Yeah.

606
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Speaker 2: Yeah, So you know, it's interesting because now they're saying that,

607
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Speaker 2: you know, the whole Afghan alf what is it then.

608
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Speaker 4: Afghan Afghan I need to.

609
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Speaker 3: Stust the gan out af Afrigans Africans.

610
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Speaker 2: Seen coming saying that I've been really struggling with name.

611
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Speaker 2: It's getting Oh yeah, I.

612
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Speaker 3: Just Afghanistan before.

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Speaker 2: I know, I don't know why I'm saying it that way,

614
00:32:57,920 --> 00:33:05,080
Speaker 2: but uh, but yeah, the vetting process is under renewed,

615
00:33:05,480 --> 00:33:08,680
Speaker 2: uh scrutiny following the National Guard shooting, and I'm thinking,

616
00:33:08,760 --> 00:33:14,680
Speaker 2: like y'all to have this ship down at the first time,

617
00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:17,880
Speaker 2: Like if y'all didn't think that it's possible that you

618
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Speaker 2: maybe bringing in some people that were part of a

619
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Speaker 2: sleep or cell or something like that.

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Speaker 1: Just the thing they had to know because he was

621
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Speaker 1: registered with them and he was part of what do

622
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Speaker 1: they call him a death.

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Speaker 4: Unit or zero zero something like that, and he was

624
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Speaker 4: enlisted when he was a fucking child.

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Speaker 1: So it's like almost like, oh, you bring a child

626
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Speaker 1: into a situation where they're expected to kill people, that's

627
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Speaker 1: going to have a fucked up effect on him later.

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Speaker 6: This should be common sense.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, so y'all not to hop off in like conspiracy

630
00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:57,960
Speaker 4: levels stuff, but like y'all saw, though I love this, nah,

631
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Speaker 4: but like y'all seen, they've pulled like Google trends searches

632
00:34:03,200 --> 00:34:08,480
Speaker 4: of that the the killer's name, like that he was

633
00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:15,840
Speaker 4: searched days prior and earlier, like prior to there's a

634
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Speaker 4: spike in search Google trends searches for his name.

635
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Speaker 3: For the shooting.

636
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Speaker 4: And this is the part that like I'm notably saying,

637
00:34:26,719 --> 00:34:29,160
Speaker 4: like this part is like I don't have it in

638
00:34:29,160 --> 00:34:32,920
Speaker 4: any reliable source, but they said locations. One of the

639
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Speaker 4: locations that he was there was a high spike in

640
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Speaker 4: searching was in Israel.

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Speaker 3: Another one was here.

642
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Speaker 4: So when talking about like these ideas of people being like, oh,

643
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Speaker 4: false flag shootings, all the things that are able to

644
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Speaker 4: be done because they're just because it gave off the

645
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Speaker 4: impression that like we knew this was going to happen,

646
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Speaker 4: we were searching to see if it had been followed

647
00:34:51,160 --> 00:34:55,000
Speaker 4: through with. Yet like that's the like that's the conspiracy

648
00:34:55,080 --> 00:34:57,920
Speaker 4: thought around it or whatever is that like people have

649
00:34:58,040 --> 00:35:01,040
Speaker 4: been searching, people were searching his name. Who knew to

650
00:35:01,120 --> 00:35:04,920
Speaker 4: be searching his name because they knew he was supposed

651
00:35:04,960 --> 00:35:05,560
Speaker 4: to have done this.

652
00:35:05,840 --> 00:35:06,880
Speaker 3: Damn they didn't open up.

653
00:35:08,040 --> 00:35:09,600
Speaker 1: That's what I was just good to say. The only

654
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Speaker 1: thing I ever pushed back on stuff like try Like

655
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Speaker 1: that's kind of crazy that they wouldn't even try to

656
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Speaker 1: use a VPN.

657
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Speaker 3: I've seen enough twenty four, bro, I know how it

658
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Speaker 3: go down.

659
00:35:25,840 --> 00:35:28,719
Speaker 4: As soon as I sound like I watched this episode,

660
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Speaker 4: Chloe knew how to mask these searches.

661
00:35:32,640 --> 00:35:40,440
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, man, so that's crazy. Yeah, but it's just

662
00:35:40,480 --> 00:35:43,160
Speaker 1: it's just funny once again watching the Right have to

663
00:35:43,200 --> 00:35:46,520
Speaker 1: eat ship with this, because you know, originally they were

664
00:35:46,560 --> 00:35:48,680
Speaker 1: saying that he was just an illegal immigrant.

665
00:35:49,160 --> 00:35:50,400
Speaker 3: That's the first thing they said.

666
00:35:50,480 --> 00:35:53,080
Speaker 1: It's an illegal immigrant that just came over here to

667
00:35:53,160 --> 00:35:53,920
Speaker 1: kill Americans.

668
00:35:54,719 --> 00:35:56,319
Speaker 3: Whoops, we worked with him.

669
00:35:57,280 --> 00:36:00,600
Speaker 1: We knew he was killing people over in Afghanistan, and whoops,

670
00:36:00,840 --> 00:36:03,359
Speaker 1: we had him doing this under our control, so we

671
00:36:03,400 --> 00:36:05,240
Speaker 1: can say we had nothing to do with it.

672
00:36:05,360 --> 00:36:08,279
Speaker 3: Whoops. It's like, bro, why don't y'all just stop doing this?

673
00:36:08,320 --> 00:36:11,000
Speaker 1: Why don't y'all just stop jumping the fucking gun every

674
00:36:11,160 --> 00:36:11,880
Speaker 1: single time?

675
00:36:12,120 --> 00:36:13,960
Speaker 4: And I guess that's my thing though, was like, I

676
00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:16,759
Speaker 4: don't know if it changes anything now you know what

677
00:36:16,760 --> 00:36:18,560
Speaker 4: I'm saying because I agree with you. I'm just like

678
00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:23,080
Speaker 4: all of these shooters. White man kills a white man,

679
00:36:23,239 --> 00:36:26,879
Speaker 4: Charlie Kirk, and they start to the next day there's

680
00:36:26,960 --> 00:36:28,440
Speaker 4: death threats to HBCUs.

681
00:36:28,680 --> 00:36:30,120
Speaker 3: So nigga, I ain't got nothing to do with us.

682
00:36:30,160 --> 00:36:32,960
Speaker 4: That was in Utah, Like that's not we don't even

683
00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:35,480
Speaker 4: go here, Like what are we talking about? And then

684
00:36:35,600 --> 00:36:41,160
Speaker 4: you know, white man allegedly shoots Trump's ear whatever that's it.

685
00:36:41,320 --> 00:36:44,080
Speaker 3: Like again, it's like all of these things like.

686
00:36:44,120 --> 00:36:48,759
Speaker 4: It don't even involve us, and it's still is used

687
00:36:48,760 --> 00:36:52,879
Speaker 4: as pretense against us. And so I'm just always like, yeah,

688
00:36:52,920 --> 00:36:56,960
Speaker 4: I don't even know if the hypocrisy matters, but yeah,

689
00:36:57,560 --> 00:36:58,400
Speaker 4: this is no different.

690
00:36:58,520 --> 00:36:59,080
Speaker 3: I agree.

691
00:36:59,520 --> 00:37:04,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, now he's Trump's talking about not giving uh.

692
00:37:05,480 --> 00:37:09,359
Speaker 3: What was he what's he suspending now? Like the uh

693
00:37:09,800 --> 00:37:10,759
Speaker 3: literally asylum?

694
00:37:10,880 --> 00:37:17,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I thought I know what you're talking about.

695
00:37:17,160 --> 00:37:19,000
Speaker 1: I meant to my bad Jos, I should have wrote

696
00:37:19,040 --> 00:37:19,520
Speaker 1: stuff down.

697
00:37:19,719 --> 00:37:20,200
Speaker 3: What was it?

698
00:37:22,719 --> 00:37:26,040
Speaker 1: I didn't know he was gonna revoke status. He was

699
00:37:26,280 --> 00:37:29,560
Speaker 1: trying to smoke legal status.

700
00:37:29,160 --> 00:37:31,240
Speaker 6: For people that come from third world country.

701
00:37:31,280 --> 00:37:35,120
Speaker 3: So that was that's what it was. Yes, yeahea.

702
00:37:35,480 --> 00:37:39,160
Speaker 1: So Trump is like anybody that's in the United States

703
00:37:39,600 --> 00:37:43,720
Speaker 1: that came here from a third world country, I'm thinking

704
00:37:43,760 --> 00:37:45,800
Speaker 1: about revoking their legal status.

705
00:37:45,880 --> 00:37:48,440
Speaker 3: That's what you said. Did you say that? Did you

706
00:37:48,480 --> 00:37:52,080
Speaker 3: put that in the chat? That's why you feel like

707
00:37:52,120 --> 00:37:53,080
Speaker 3: that's what's gonna happen.

708
00:37:53,120 --> 00:37:57,520
Speaker 4: I thought you said something about I'm.

709
00:37:57,760 --> 00:38:00,719
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah he put it. Yeah, that's

710
00:38:00,760 --> 00:38:01,760
Speaker 5: where I got that from.

711
00:38:01,880 --> 00:38:03,279
Speaker 3: I don't think he put that in the chat. He

712
00:38:03,360 --> 00:38:04,080
Speaker 3: put something like that.

713
00:38:04,480 --> 00:38:07,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, he revoking legal status.

714
00:38:07,680 --> 00:38:08,600
Speaker 3: Yeah he didn't do that.

715
00:38:10,320 --> 00:38:17,200
Speaker 1: You must have some my drink, right.

716
00:38:17,480 --> 00:38:19,920
Speaker 3: That's auspicious that that he would be.

717
00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:22,640
Speaker 1: Like the whole National Guarden Washington thing was such a

718
00:38:22,640 --> 00:38:26,239
Speaker 1: discussion point. Then this random dude that is brown shows

719
00:38:26,320 --> 00:38:27,160
Speaker 1: up and shoots somebody.

720
00:38:27,239 --> 00:38:30,640
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, and I think he sent him five hundred

721
00:38:30,640 --> 00:38:31,520
Speaker 4: more troops there.

722
00:38:32,920 --> 00:38:35,880
Speaker 3: You know, as as after after this, I don't fix everything.

723
00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:38,680
Speaker 3: So yeah, I mean ship they got to him with

724
00:38:38,719 --> 00:38:42,000
Speaker 3: the troops that were already there. What the just like,

725
00:38:42,480 --> 00:38:44,520
Speaker 3: so yeah, what the five are gonna do?

726
00:38:44,880 --> 00:38:45,960
Speaker 6: They're calling an ambush.

727
00:38:46,160 --> 00:38:48,279
Speaker 1: It's like, bro, it's one I didn't think you could

728
00:38:48,280 --> 00:38:51,360
Speaker 1: ambush somebody was just one guy.

729
00:38:51,520 --> 00:38:52,920
Speaker 3: I think you can you.

730
00:38:53,960 --> 00:39:00,640
Speaker 1: It's always thought that's like getting jumped by one dude. Yeah,

731
00:39:00,640 --> 00:39:03,279
Speaker 1: I do too, trying to like amp it up to

732
00:39:03,280 --> 00:39:06,120
Speaker 1: make it seem like you know what I mean, Like, yeah,

733
00:39:07,440 --> 00:39:09,839
Speaker 1: but it was one dude that just rolled up on him,

734
00:39:09,840 --> 00:39:12,879
Speaker 1: shot him because they didn't have anything to do. Why

735
00:39:12,880 --> 00:39:22,920
Speaker 1: don't you never mind? Doesn't matter, that doesn't matter. Yeah,

736
00:39:23,480 --> 00:39:24,799
Speaker 1: but how you never mind?

737
00:39:24,840 --> 00:39:25,239
Speaker 6: Never mind?

738
00:39:25,239 --> 00:39:25,640
Speaker 3: Never mind?

739
00:39:26,280 --> 00:39:29,600
Speaker 4: Literally in the names the National Guard, how you catch

740
00:39:29,680 --> 00:39:31,760
Speaker 4: me off guard when I'm guarding ship?

741
00:39:32,560 --> 00:39:36,080
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. I don't get it. Yeah,

742
00:39:36,120 --> 00:39:37,200
Speaker 3: I should probably stop.

743
00:39:37,360 --> 00:39:42,279
Speaker 4: Probably start going there.

744
00:39:42,440 --> 00:39:46,000
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, but uh, they you know, as we move

745
00:39:46,040 --> 00:39:53,399
Speaker 2: on to that thing, bro, they are because everything's being

746
00:39:53,440 --> 00:39:58,279
Speaker 2: written just said ship, but they about to they about

747
00:39:58,280 --> 00:39:59,960
Speaker 2: to get on him about this Venezuelan ship.

748
00:40:00,480 --> 00:40:01,640
Speaker 3: They wrapping up that ship.

749
00:40:01,719 --> 00:40:04,280
Speaker 4: Bro, I've been half paying attention to it, but I should.

750
00:40:04,640 --> 00:40:05,280
Speaker 4: It's crazy.

751
00:40:05,640 --> 00:40:08,799
Speaker 2: It's it's just insane that they're doing it. And now

752
00:40:08,920 --> 00:40:12,160
Speaker 2: I saw this morning that there were two survivors and

753
00:40:12,200 --> 00:40:12,680
Speaker 2: one of the.

754
00:40:12,640 --> 00:40:14,799
Speaker 3: Attacks and they smirking marked them. Yeah.

755
00:40:15,160 --> 00:40:17,520
Speaker 2: He was like, Noah, go ahead and and take care

756
00:40:17,520 --> 00:40:20,440
Speaker 2: of that verbal order and.

757
00:40:20,480 --> 00:40:23,880
Speaker 4: Like all the like, all the militaries are like, actually,

758
00:40:23,880 --> 00:40:26,120
Speaker 4: that's just what you don't do like you're not allowed to,

759
00:40:26,280 --> 00:40:31,239
Speaker 4: like like they are defenseless exactly. You know what I'm saying,

760
00:40:31,239 --> 00:40:37,880
Speaker 4: Like there's it's literally against the.

761
00:40:35,360 --> 00:40:41,839
Speaker 3: War war rules, the war rules there are yeah. Yeah.

762
00:40:42,080 --> 00:40:43,120
Speaker 3: So it's like, yeah, you just.

763
00:40:43,120 --> 00:40:47,799
Speaker 4: Don't Yeah yeah, so that that's going to continue. It's

764
00:40:47,800 --> 00:40:51,600
Speaker 4: crazy because like everybody talks about Pete, he had not

765
00:40:51,760 --> 00:40:53,640
Speaker 4: really served at all at all.

766
00:40:54,080 --> 00:40:56,279
Speaker 3: Like, no, he was over there, but I don't think

767
00:40:56,280 --> 00:40:59,279
Speaker 3: he really did ship. No. He literally they talk about

768
00:40:59,360 --> 00:41:01,800
Speaker 3: he is the most un.

769
00:41:02,200 --> 00:41:05,759
Speaker 4: You know, not just undecorated, but like literally saw no

770
00:41:06,840 --> 00:41:07,920
Speaker 4: action whatsoever.

771
00:41:08,480 --> 00:41:11,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, and he just was on TV and Trump was

772
00:41:11,080 --> 00:41:11,919
Speaker 3: like I like that guy.

773
00:41:12,080 --> 00:41:16,400
Speaker 2: Mm yeah he's yeah, so we'll see how this happened.

774
00:41:16,440 --> 00:41:24,480
Speaker 2: But we're talking about music earlier, okay for real, okay.

775
00:41:24,880 --> 00:41:28,279
Speaker 2: Uh told The New York Times that he hates politics.

776
00:41:29,320 --> 00:41:32,600
Speaker 2: He calls it a magic trick designed to distract people

777
00:41:32,680 --> 00:41:38,040
Speaker 2: from real change. And uh, you know, his comments are

778
00:41:39,480 --> 00:41:43,000
Speaker 2: causing some mixed reactions, people praising them for his honesties,

779
00:41:43,640 --> 00:41:47,040
Speaker 2: other saying he's ignorder the responsibility that comes with his influence.

780
00:41:48,960 --> 00:41:53,040
Speaker 2: Said that you know, you should be great and that

781
00:41:53,120 --> 00:41:55,600
Speaker 2: if you're great, then you get the business.

782
00:41:56,680 --> 00:41:58,600
Speaker 3: Uh. He had some things to say about the I

783
00:41:58,719 --> 00:41:59,200
Speaker 3: as well.

784
00:42:01,600 --> 00:42:05,640
Speaker 1: That what Ken just said, If you want the business,

785
00:42:06,120 --> 00:42:09,120
Speaker 1: wouldn't you rather get the business because you're great versus

786
00:42:09,320 --> 00:42:11,359
Speaker 1: that's not Yes, it is.

787
00:42:11,960 --> 00:42:13,080
Speaker 3: I don't know why you're surprised.

788
00:42:15,320 --> 00:42:18,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, that is what he said. That's what he said.

789
00:42:20,840 --> 00:42:25,160
Speaker 4: Let's see if I can find the quote, right. I

790
00:42:25,200 --> 00:42:27,879
Speaker 4: saw some of the quotes, but I didn't see that one.

791
00:42:28,400 --> 00:42:36,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, uh so, yeah, what y'all think? Man? Oh yeah,

792
00:42:36,680 --> 00:42:39,160
Speaker 3: here it is. Do you think for what.

793
00:42:39,160 --> 00:42:42,920
Speaker 2: It is that you do. Do you think you're the best.

794
00:42:43,239 --> 00:42:45,560
Speaker 2: Do you want the job because you're black or because

795
00:42:45,560 --> 00:42:48,520
Speaker 2: you're the best. Do you want someone to support your

796
00:42:48,520 --> 00:42:52,080
Speaker 2: startup because you're black or because you're the best? I

797
00:42:52,120 --> 00:42:55,480
Speaker 2: think now, for me, it's about us having the best ambition,

798
00:42:56,200 --> 00:42:58,680
Speaker 2: and that's the reason why you should support these businesses.

799
00:42:59,000 --> 00:43:00,319
Speaker 3: Yes, they have happen to.

800
00:43:00,320 --> 00:43:02,759
Speaker 4: Be black and brown, but it should be based on

801
00:43:02,800 --> 00:43:05,759
Speaker 4: the fact that they're the best, not because of a

802
00:43:05,880 --> 00:43:07,600
Speaker 4: shade of skin color.

803
00:43:09,000 --> 00:43:09,480
Speaker 3: That was it.

804
00:43:10,400 --> 00:43:10,759
Speaker 1: Mm hmm.

805
00:43:12,040 --> 00:43:14,040
Speaker 3: So anyway, politics, magic tricks.

806
00:43:16,800 --> 00:43:19,640
Speaker 1: The amazing thing about all this is is he he thought.

807
00:43:19,719 --> 00:43:20,760
Speaker 1: He sounded so deep.

808
00:43:21,239 --> 00:43:22,040
Speaker 3: He always does.

809
00:43:22,600 --> 00:43:24,319
Speaker 6: I don't ever watch interviews with him because I just

810
00:43:24,360 --> 00:43:24,799
Speaker 6: don't care.

811
00:43:24,920 --> 00:43:28,560
Speaker 3: I've seen some stuff with him before, but yeah, he.

812
00:43:28,480 --> 00:43:31,480
Speaker 1: A magic trick and I don't I don't believe in it,

813
00:43:31,520 --> 00:43:33,480
Speaker 1: and I don't like it because it deserves to divide.

814
00:43:33,600 --> 00:43:34,799
Speaker 1: And it's like you really thought you.

815
00:43:34,800 --> 00:43:40,400
Speaker 3: Dropped a bar. I don't like politics. Most of us

816
00:43:40,440 --> 00:43:41,759
Speaker 3: don't like politics.

817
00:43:43,000 --> 00:43:44,759
Speaker 1: But that doesn't mean you can just be like, I'm

818
00:43:44,920 --> 00:43:46,040
Speaker 1: just right.

819
00:43:47,160 --> 00:43:49,400
Speaker 3: I don't know, especially when like they said, like I

820
00:43:49,400 --> 00:43:50,640
Speaker 3: mean in a public eye.

821
00:43:51,480 --> 00:43:53,200
Speaker 6: That way, just don't answer the question.

822
00:43:53,440 --> 00:43:53,640
Speaker 3: Yes.

823
00:43:54,560 --> 00:43:56,960
Speaker 4: He also, I mean in this this part of that

824
00:43:57,080 --> 00:44:00,320
Speaker 4: quote was echoed. He said that's last year too, or

825
00:44:00,360 --> 00:44:02,799
Speaker 4: in the election, just this idea of like, so he

826
00:44:02,800 --> 00:44:07,000
Speaker 4: don't vote, he gives off that impression and either either

827
00:44:07,000 --> 00:44:09,920
Speaker 4: he doesn't vote, but he definitely just doesn't support talking

828
00:44:10,000 --> 00:44:13,600
Speaker 4: about it. And in the other quotes that he said,

829
00:44:13,600 --> 00:44:15,439
Speaker 4: like I said in twenty twenty four, it was more

830
00:44:15,480 --> 00:44:19,960
Speaker 4: of it was more of like, you know, either you

831
00:44:20,080 --> 00:44:23,920
Speaker 4: choose one he said it in this you're inadvertently supporting

832
00:44:23,920 --> 00:44:26,640
Speaker 4: division or something supporting division, like you or whatever. And

833
00:44:26,680 --> 00:44:29,280
Speaker 4: so I think it's notable that he looked at everything

834
00:44:29,400 --> 00:44:32,520
Speaker 4: last year and was like, yeah, if you choose one

835
00:44:32,600 --> 00:44:36,320
Speaker 4: of these, you supporting division it's like, Okay, that's you.

836
00:44:37,400 --> 00:44:39,920
Speaker 4: But yeah, I mean that the magic I felt like

837
00:44:40,040 --> 00:44:43,640
Speaker 4: as dumb as the politics magic trick part thing is

838
00:44:44,239 --> 00:44:48,759
Speaker 4: in the sense of like the way he talked about.

839
00:44:48,520 --> 00:44:51,520
Speaker 3: It, the d I stuff was worse. I agree, Yeah,

840
00:44:51,760 --> 00:44:52,560
Speaker 3: oh yeah for sure.

841
00:44:52,600 --> 00:44:56,279
Speaker 4: Like that's the point the words like I never knew

842
00:44:56,320 --> 00:45:00,960
Speaker 4: that it was an either or proposition, that it was

843
00:45:01,080 --> 00:45:04,719
Speaker 4: like you either like him posing it that way, like, look,

844
00:45:04,719 --> 00:45:10,440
Speaker 4: you should actually focus on being the best, not being black,

845
00:45:10,880 --> 00:45:11,439
Speaker 4: both of those.

846
00:45:11,600 --> 00:45:12,319
Speaker 3: That's what I think.

847
00:45:12,360 --> 00:45:18,840
Speaker 4: I'm not trying to be the best, was trying to.

848
00:45:20,400 --> 00:45:24,359
Speaker 4: It sounds like I mean, it's it literally feeds into

849
00:45:24,400 --> 00:45:28,120
Speaker 4: everything that, Like it's how white people view d I.

850
00:45:28,360 --> 00:45:32,000
Speaker 4: They they they literally think you only got it because

851
00:45:32,000 --> 00:45:35,360
Speaker 4: you're black. You don't focus on being good. He sounds

852
00:45:35,960 --> 00:45:39,120
Speaker 4: just like Charlie Kirk. He sounds just like all of

853
00:45:39,160 --> 00:45:42,719
Speaker 4: those white supremacist viewpoints. Like literally, did they called him

854
00:45:43,280 --> 00:45:46,439
Speaker 4: whoever it was interviewing called him out on it interview No,

855
00:45:46,719 --> 00:45:50,719
Speaker 4: But it was more of because he was getting he

856
00:45:50,800 --> 00:45:54,840
Speaker 4: was getting an award at that thing, and this is

857
00:45:54,880 --> 00:45:58,040
Speaker 4: a speech, like he got an award, it was it

858
00:45:58,120 --> 00:45:59,880
Speaker 4: was your people, it was Miami, he got the key

859
00:45:59,920 --> 00:46:03,400
Speaker 4: to Miami, Florida.

860
00:46:04,960 --> 00:46:06,839
Speaker 3: But but yeah, he.

861
00:46:06,840 --> 00:46:09,320
Speaker 4: Got that, and then there was some other recognition piece

862
00:46:09,360 --> 00:46:11,400
Speaker 4: that he was being recognized for. But he was on

863
00:46:11,440 --> 00:46:13,239
Speaker 4: a he was on a couch with other or like

864
00:46:13,280 --> 00:46:16,200
Speaker 4: a panel with others, and that's when he started to

865
00:46:16,239 --> 00:46:18,799
Speaker 4: say this stuff. And I don't think I didn't see

866
00:46:18,800 --> 00:46:20,400
Speaker 4: anyone push back in real time.

867
00:46:20,200 --> 00:46:21,879
Speaker 3: But a lot of people had stuff to say.

868
00:46:22,120 --> 00:46:25,480
Speaker 1: Just the woman's face next to him. I know I

869
00:46:25,480 --> 00:46:27,800
Speaker 1: didn't pay attention to it, but I could see, yeah,

870
00:46:28,080 --> 00:46:29,600
Speaker 1: because it's just like, why are we still having this

871
00:46:29,640 --> 00:46:33,480
Speaker 1: fucking discussion rich? At some point, I think we talked

872
00:46:33,480 --> 00:46:36,239
Speaker 1: about this before, Like, at some point, people are going

873
00:46:36,280 --> 00:46:37,200
Speaker 1: to stop thinking.

874
00:46:36,920 --> 00:46:39,280
Speaker 6: That everybody that's rich is rich because they're smart.

875
00:46:39,440 --> 00:46:39,560
Speaker 4: Right.

876
00:46:40,320 --> 00:46:42,440
Speaker 1: The motherfucker can make incredible music. That does not mean

877
00:46:42,440 --> 00:46:45,440
Speaker 1: he's intelligent, And he could actually be intelligent. He's just

878
00:46:45,560 --> 00:46:47,759
Speaker 1: politically ignorant. It could be a lot of things. Yeah,

879
00:46:48,360 --> 00:46:53,799
Speaker 1: but he, in my opinion, he probably just shouldn't have

880
00:46:53,800 --> 00:46:57,480
Speaker 1: answered the question. If he had that type of stance,

881
00:46:57,600 --> 00:47:00,080
Speaker 1: just don't answer the fucking question, because everything he's that

882
00:47:00,280 --> 00:47:01,720
Speaker 1: was fucking insanely stupid.

883
00:47:02,320 --> 00:47:03,600
Speaker 3: Everything he said was.

884
00:47:03,600 --> 00:47:05,239
Speaker 6: Just like, bro, are you serious?

885
00:47:05,440 --> 00:47:08,000
Speaker 1: Where have you been like the money shields.

886
00:47:08,000 --> 00:47:14,560
Speaker 3: You say, what but even with his DI job, what's this?

887
00:47:14,680 --> 00:47:17,839
Speaker 3: What's this? What's his job? He's Louisa time. He's the head.

888
00:47:18,520 --> 00:47:20,120
Speaker 3: That's why he made those stupid ass boots.

889
00:47:21,800 --> 00:47:23,880
Speaker 1: No one that makes nine dollar boots can tell me

890
00:47:23,960 --> 00:47:26,319
Speaker 1: shit about politics. De I.

891
00:47:27,520 --> 00:47:31,120
Speaker 3: He probably thought he got the job because aren't they thousand?

892
00:47:32,719 --> 00:47:33,719
Speaker 3: But my thing is.

893
00:47:35,160 --> 00:47:39,000
Speaker 4: My my thing is like under the real understanding of

894
00:47:39,080 --> 00:47:39,880
Speaker 4: d I.

895
00:47:39,880 --> 00:47:41,760
Speaker 3: I'm not disputing that he was the best.

896
00:47:42,120 --> 00:47:50,000
Speaker 4: I'm saying that you get historically excluded because of immutable characteristics,

897
00:47:50,160 --> 00:47:54,040
Speaker 4: black woman, whatever. And so it's a DEI job in

898
00:47:54,080 --> 00:47:56,920
Speaker 4: the sense that they saw an outside perspective that has

899
00:47:56,960 --> 00:48:00,480
Speaker 4: been historically denied, which is how you got that position.

900
00:48:01,120 --> 00:48:02,880
Speaker 4: And we know that you're good at this, you know

901
00:48:02,920 --> 00:48:05,400
Speaker 4: what I'm saying, So like that's the thing that I'm like.

902
00:48:05,600 --> 00:48:08,200
Speaker 4: He acts like he's like, oh, here's what these here's

903
00:48:08,239 --> 00:48:11,000
Speaker 4: what y'a don't know. Y'all want to be the best,

904
00:48:11,440 --> 00:48:12,680
Speaker 4: that's what you should focus on.

905
00:48:13,560 --> 00:48:15,520
Speaker 3: Watching the car.

906
00:48:17,280 --> 00:48:19,200
Speaker 2: I mean, if he wasn't for real and it was

907
00:48:19,239 --> 00:48:21,640
Speaker 2: the best when he ever gotten a job, and you're

908
00:48:21,640 --> 00:48:24,560
Speaker 2: fucking for real, bro celebrity, everybody knows you so easy

909
00:48:24,600 --> 00:48:25,919
Speaker 2: to go out and get you and put you in here.

910
00:48:26,280 --> 00:48:27,840
Speaker 3: Do you actually think you're the best?

911
00:48:28,560 --> 00:48:31,160
Speaker 1: He probably does, But it's just like when you when

912
00:48:31,160 --> 00:48:34,720
Speaker 1: you take that stance for regular people like us, ignoring

913
00:48:34,760 --> 00:48:36,719
Speaker 1: the fact that, like d I just gets us in

914
00:48:36,760 --> 00:48:39,759
Speaker 1: the door, Like the fact that we're good at our

915
00:48:39,840 --> 00:48:42,040
Speaker 1: jobs is what keeps us there and likely having to

916
00:48:42,080 --> 00:48:46,160
Speaker 1: be extra exactly like twice is good because we have

917
00:48:46,200 --> 00:48:48,080
Speaker 1: to outshine the white folks that they want to have

918
00:48:48,120 --> 00:48:48,520
Speaker 1: the job.

919
00:48:49,120 --> 00:48:50,000
Speaker 3: I just hate that this.

920
00:48:49,920 --> 00:48:52,600
Speaker 1: Motherfucker got on this national stage and said this dumb ship.

921
00:48:53,239 --> 00:48:56,000
Speaker 3: He said something stupid. I can't find it. So he

922
00:48:56,040 --> 00:48:57,520
Speaker 3: has a pattern in this how he does.

923
00:48:57,680 --> 00:49:01,320
Speaker 4: But it's during It was during like Black Lives Matter

924
00:49:01,480 --> 00:49:05,480
Speaker 4: like period of time, like maybe like twenty fifteen to

925
00:49:05,480 --> 00:49:08,520
Speaker 4: twenty nineteen, and I couldn't find the exact thing. But

926
00:49:08,560 --> 00:49:12,160
Speaker 4: I remember thinking like, oh, yeah, like he's not.

927
00:49:13,800 --> 00:49:16,000
Speaker 3: We shouldn't probably pay attention to him about this stuff,

928
00:49:16,000 --> 00:49:16,480
Speaker 3: you know what I mean.

929
00:49:17,320 --> 00:49:19,840
Speaker 4: But I couldn't remember the exact I couldn't find the

930
00:49:19,840 --> 00:49:21,560
Speaker 4: exact quote, so I didn't even want to like lead

931
00:49:21,640 --> 00:49:25,000
Speaker 4: with it. But I just don't to your point, don't

932
00:49:25,000 --> 00:49:30,279
Speaker 4: trust people's political opinions or viewpoints opinions. He apparently reached

933
00:49:30,320 --> 00:49:35,680
Speaker 4: out to van Lathan to like give, oh I'm being

934
00:49:35,719 --> 00:49:39,440
Speaker 4: misinterpreted or whatever, and like van Lathan spoke to what

935
00:49:39,520 --> 00:49:42,799
Speaker 4: he was saying, and I'll be honest, it was not

936
00:49:43,040 --> 00:49:46,440
Speaker 4: that you know, didn't clear up that much in my opinion.

937
00:49:46,640 --> 00:49:47,600
Speaker 3: Do you remember what he said?

938
00:49:47,840 --> 00:49:49,040
Speaker 6: Actually I can look at that.

939
00:49:49,200 --> 00:49:50,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, I wish I had.

940
00:49:50,160 --> 00:49:51,359
Speaker 4: I was trying to look it up on the way

941
00:49:51,400 --> 00:49:54,120
Speaker 4: in it's I know. The politics part that he was

942
00:49:54,120 --> 00:49:59,400
Speaker 4: trying to say is that is that he just feels

943
00:49:59,560 --> 00:50:05,279
Speaker 4: like politics in general are He was trying to say, oh,

944
00:50:05,320 --> 00:50:09,839
Speaker 4: they're to side, two wings of the same bird type

945
00:50:09,880 --> 00:50:12,520
Speaker 4: they are, which is like, yes, true, but that's not

946
00:50:12,560 --> 00:50:15,520
Speaker 4: what you said, you know what I'm saying. And so

947
00:50:15,600 --> 00:50:17,440
Speaker 4: the way he was framing was like I'm just saying,

948
00:50:17,760 --> 00:50:19,680
Speaker 4: you know, they both da da da, And it's like.

949
00:50:19,920 --> 00:50:21,200
Speaker 3: But that's not what you said.

950
00:50:21,640 --> 00:50:26,080
Speaker 4: You you are saying like in speaking about in speaking

951
00:50:26,160 --> 00:50:30,560
Speaker 4: it up like you are advocating division. It is useless

952
00:50:30,600 --> 00:50:32,960
Speaker 4: to do this, you are you know, like it was

953
00:50:33,080 --> 00:50:37,279
Speaker 4: it was more than just you know, two party system.

954
00:50:37,040 --> 00:50:39,880
Speaker 1: Issues, like he made it sound like being neutral is

955
00:50:39,920 --> 00:50:42,120
Speaker 1: the way to go. Yes, not even outline the fact

956
00:50:42,120 --> 00:50:45,240
Speaker 1: that being neutral, you are inherently taking a political stance.

957
00:50:45,280 --> 00:50:50,319
Speaker 4: By being neutral, you are it was created by people, Yeah,

958
00:50:50,360 --> 00:50:54,279
Speaker 4: and not that maybe the division was already there and they're.

959
00:50:54,080 --> 00:50:57,400
Speaker 3: Just picking aside that they, you know, agree with.

960
00:50:57,600 --> 00:50:59,480
Speaker 1: But look at this way, even if it is creating

961
00:50:59,680 --> 00:51:03,160
Speaker 1: more vision, there's a clear enemy at this point, Like,

962
00:51:03,200 --> 00:51:05,440
Speaker 1: how can you look at what just fucking happened and

963
00:51:05,520 --> 00:51:08,040
Speaker 1: still have this stupid stance. There is a very fucking

964
00:51:08,040 --> 00:51:10,839
Speaker 1: clear enemy, Yeah, to not just black folks, to any

965
00:51:10,840 --> 00:51:12,279
Speaker 1: person of color or any minority group.

966
00:51:12,320 --> 00:51:13,319
Speaker 3: If we're looking at like that.

967
00:51:14,160 --> 00:51:16,400
Speaker 1: So the fact that you are still sitting.

968
00:51:16,120 --> 00:51:18,000
Speaker 3: In your stupid ass on this fuck let me not

969
00:51:18,000 --> 00:51:18,640
Speaker 3: call him stupid.

970
00:51:18,920 --> 00:51:20,480
Speaker 1: The fact that you're still sitting your ass on the

971
00:51:20,480 --> 00:51:24,520
Speaker 1: stage in fucking expensive sunglasses, talking to a crowd that

972
00:51:24,560 --> 00:51:27,560
Speaker 1: probably doesn't have one twentieth of the money you have

973
00:51:28,000 --> 00:51:31,520
Speaker 1: and saying, oh, yeah, it's a magic trick. It's all

974
00:51:31,560 --> 00:51:35,680
Speaker 1: meant to divide. What are you talking about? What are

975
00:51:35,719 --> 00:51:38,880
Speaker 1: you talking about? The system itself has already divided us.

976
00:51:39,280 --> 00:51:41,200
Speaker 1: So you're saying, if we keep talking about the fact

977
00:51:41,200 --> 00:51:44,040
Speaker 1: that the system is dividing us, that we are furthering

978
00:51:44,080 --> 00:51:44,600
Speaker 1: the division.

979
00:51:44,640 --> 00:51:47,000
Speaker 3: Come on, bro, what are you talking about? Just talking?

980
00:51:47,040 --> 00:51:47,400
Speaker 3: You know what?

981
00:51:47,440 --> 00:51:49,000
Speaker 1: This is some of them shut up in dribble moments.

982
00:51:50,040 --> 00:51:52,279
Speaker 1: This is like, Bro, I'm looking at you. I love

983
00:51:52,320 --> 00:51:54,759
Speaker 1: your music and I like what you brought to art,

984
00:51:54,840 --> 00:51:57,360
Speaker 1: but fuck, why do you have to talk?

985
00:51:57,560 --> 00:52:01,360
Speaker 3: He's so far removed from it everything. I didn't expect

986
00:52:01,360 --> 00:52:01,800
Speaker 3: that though.

987
00:52:03,080 --> 00:52:05,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, he looked like he looked like the type of

988
00:52:05,239 --> 00:52:08,200
Speaker 4: person that like he just doesn't pay attention to anything

989
00:52:08,239 --> 00:52:09,200
Speaker 4: that's happened on They.

990
00:52:09,000 --> 00:52:11,320
Speaker 3: Only have them shoes. That's just say human on the

991
00:52:11,320 --> 00:52:14,960
Speaker 3: east side. Oh, I've seen those at Ross. They just

992
00:52:15,000 --> 00:52:16,200
Speaker 3: like they were like a Didas or something.

993
00:52:16,280 --> 00:52:19,239
Speaker 4: Yeah, they're like human like on the like on the

994
00:52:19,280 --> 00:52:21,759
Speaker 4: tongue part. In my opinion, I was just like, yeah,

995
00:52:21,760 --> 00:52:24,640
Speaker 4: that's a that's someone who'd just be trying to like

996
00:52:24,760 --> 00:52:25,919
Speaker 4: all lives matter some shit.

997
00:52:27,800 --> 00:52:30,560
Speaker 3: Because I should not know he was like that.

998
00:52:30,640 --> 00:52:32,799
Speaker 1: I thought he was one of them guys that's just

999
00:52:32,840 --> 00:52:37,360
Speaker 1: like you know what y'all call New Black anyway, But

1000
00:52:37,400 --> 00:52:39,399
Speaker 1: it's like I thought he was one of those guys

1001
00:52:39,400 --> 00:52:41,560
Speaker 1: that was actually like a thinker, and like, you know,

1002
00:52:42,600 --> 00:52:43,799
Speaker 1: I didn't know he was ignorant like this.

1003
00:52:43,920 --> 00:52:45,760
Speaker 3: Here's what he said. To Van Lathan.

1004
00:52:46,280 --> 00:52:51,560
Speaker 4: He said, I talked to This is Van Lathen speaking.

1005
00:52:51,560 --> 00:52:54,840
Speaker 4: I had an interesting conversation talked to Pharrell earlier today.

1006
00:52:55,480 --> 00:52:57,640
Speaker 4: Number One, he feels like the context of where he

1007
00:52:57,719 --> 00:52:59,960
Speaker 4: was and what he was talking about is not being considered.

1008
00:53:00,640 --> 00:53:03,520
Speaker 4: Lathan said that Williams was doing a talk as part

1009
00:53:03,520 --> 00:53:06,440
Speaker 4: of a Black Ambition initiative that he runs, which invests

1010
00:53:06,440 --> 00:53:10,880
Speaker 4: in black and brown entrepreneurship quote over eighty five million

1011
00:53:10,920 --> 00:53:14,440
Speaker 4: to invest in two DEI programs and make sure that

1012
00:53:14,480 --> 00:53:16,959
Speaker 4: the people behind these programs get exactly what they need.

1013
00:53:17,440 --> 00:53:20,600
Speaker 4: What he meant to say, Pharrell, and what's trying to say,

1014
00:53:20,640 --> 00:53:24,160
Speaker 4: Farrell told me is that politics. He's specifically talking about

1015
00:53:24,200 --> 00:53:27,440
Speaker 4: right verse left politics, not the overall example of what

1016
00:53:27,440 --> 00:53:30,840
Speaker 4: it means to be politically knowledgeable or engaged. He's talking

1017
00:53:30,840 --> 00:53:34,480
Speaker 4: about right versus left politics and how right verse left politics.

1018
00:53:34,000 --> 00:53:36,560
Speaker 3: Typically leave people behind. It is divisive.

1019
00:53:36,680 --> 00:53:39,000
Speaker 4: It's divisive because it doesn't get at the heart of

1020
00:53:39,040 --> 00:53:41,880
Speaker 4: the issue. It is a fight per for political power,

1021
00:53:44,719 --> 00:53:47,720
Speaker 4: and he said he is more interested in empowering people

1022
00:53:47,719 --> 00:53:49,640
Speaker 4: to go out and live their dreams and execute the

1023
00:53:49,680 --> 00:53:50,920
Speaker 4: things that they are talented in.

1024
00:53:52,160 --> 00:53:55,399
Speaker 2: This is his actual I don't know this though he

1025
00:53:55,440 --> 00:53:58,200
Speaker 2: actually is behind this Black Ambition thing.

1026
00:53:59,200 --> 00:54:01,560
Speaker 6: That's not surprise because.

1027
00:54:01,320 --> 00:54:03,200
Speaker 2: I didn't know that was his thing that he was

1028
00:54:03,239 --> 00:54:07,360
Speaker 2: speaking at neither and yeah, I'm saying here, yeah on

1029
00:54:07,920 --> 00:54:12,040
Speaker 2: afrotech doc. Yeah, I'm now I'm really confused by everything

1030
00:54:12,080 --> 00:54:14,960
Speaker 2: that just took place because on afrotech dot com, yeah,

1031
00:54:16,280 --> 00:54:20,360
Speaker 2: he's distributed thirteen million to underrepresented founder since its inception.

1032
00:54:22,880 --> 00:54:25,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, but what is unrepresented mean? That doesn't always mean black?

1033
00:54:26,400 --> 00:54:27,600
Speaker 3: This is very much true.

1034
00:54:28,080 --> 00:54:31,000
Speaker 4: So but I would hope so since it's a Black

1035
00:54:31,040 --> 00:54:32,960
Speaker 4: Ambition conference, but you never know.

1036
00:54:33,560 --> 00:54:36,760
Speaker 1: It's like, okay, but if you're at a black confused,

1037
00:54:36,760 --> 00:54:38,640
Speaker 1: why are you telling us this ship.

1038
00:54:38,520 --> 00:54:40,000
Speaker 3: I'm back to what you said. You should have just

1039
00:54:40,040 --> 00:54:41,399
Speaker 3: not said anything, But.

1040
00:54:41,400 --> 00:54:43,319
Speaker 1: I guess he couldn't because it's his event, So it's

1041
00:54:43,320 --> 00:54:45,120
Speaker 1: like they're probably looking for his opinion.

1042
00:54:45,440 --> 00:54:47,239
Speaker 3: But if I was him, I would just be like,

1043
00:54:47,440 --> 00:54:48,080
Speaker 3: you know what.

1044
00:54:48,320 --> 00:54:51,200
Speaker 1: I'm gonna leave that to motherfuckers that know way more

1045
00:54:51,239 --> 00:54:53,880
Speaker 1: than me, So don't ask me that shit. Ask me

1046
00:54:53,920 --> 00:54:55,480
Speaker 1: how I hit some buttons and made a dope beat

1047
00:54:55,480 --> 00:54:56,000
Speaker 1: and ask me.

1048
00:54:55,960 --> 00:54:57,640
Speaker 5: That, because if I say something is going to get

1049
00:54:57,680 --> 00:54:59,279
Speaker 5: misconstrued all that.

1050
00:55:00,120 --> 00:55:02,960
Speaker 4: Also, I just think this notion of like being taken

1051
00:55:03,000 --> 00:55:06,400
Speaker 4: out it like you said at the time, I know

1052
00:55:06,480 --> 00:55:08,640
Speaker 4: what I'm about to say is not a popular point

1053
00:55:08,680 --> 00:55:11,440
Speaker 4: of view, like he literally says that. So they're like

1054
00:55:11,560 --> 00:55:15,680
Speaker 4: you honestly just thought I'm smart enough, like you know

1055
00:55:15,719 --> 00:55:19,239
Speaker 4: what I'm saying, like it wasn't like I can't believe y'all.

1056
00:55:19,280 --> 00:55:22,480
Speaker 4: Are you know taking this out of context?

1057
00:55:22,520 --> 00:55:23,640
Speaker 6: You knew what you were saying.

1058
00:55:23,760 --> 00:55:27,319
Speaker 1: Yes, a hot take, Yes you knew that, And now

1059
00:55:27,360 --> 00:55:31,520
Speaker 1: you're crying about that. He's trying to backpedal because he realized,

1060
00:55:31,560 --> 00:55:37,520
Speaker 1: like like whenever almost whenever anyone asks me about Palestine,

1061
00:55:38,440 --> 00:55:42,280
Speaker 1: and I'll say a free Palestine. But if you want details,

1062
00:55:42,360 --> 00:55:45,319
Speaker 1: ask somebody waste smartly, because it's not worth it for

1063
00:55:45,360 --> 00:55:48,359
Speaker 1: me to say something, be be well meaning and then

1064
00:55:48,400 --> 00:55:50,759
Speaker 1: say something stupid and have people mad at me. I

1065
00:55:50,760 --> 00:55:53,040
Speaker 1: would rather direct you to motherfuckers that are smarter than

1066
00:55:53,040 --> 00:55:53,960
Speaker 1: me talking about this shit.

1067
00:55:54,400 --> 00:55:55,759
Speaker 3: I can give you the baseline.

1068
00:55:55,800 --> 00:55:58,120
Speaker 1: These motherfucker should be free and should not be you know,

1069
00:55:58,200 --> 00:56:00,160
Speaker 1: children shouldn't be murdered, all that kind of stuff. But

1070
00:56:00,280 --> 00:56:02,239
Speaker 1: if you want details, go to somebody smarter than me.

1071
00:56:02,440 --> 00:56:03,840
Speaker 1: That's what Farrel should have done.

1072
00:56:04,160 --> 00:56:06,399
Speaker 3: Let me read this other part, Oh god, it's work.

1073
00:56:06,880 --> 00:56:09,440
Speaker 4: This is the other thing he says. The other part

1074
00:56:09,880 --> 00:56:12,960
Speaker 4: this is le Van Lathan talking about what Farrell said.

1075
00:56:13,160 --> 00:56:14,680
Speaker 4: The other part of it is in terms of him

1076
00:56:14,680 --> 00:56:17,360
Speaker 4: talking about being the best. Is what he was saying

1077
00:56:17,480 --> 00:56:19,720
Speaker 4: is that the only thing you are going to fall

1078
00:56:19,800 --> 00:56:23,839
Speaker 4: back on if in fact DEI is dismantled, is how

1079
00:56:23,880 --> 00:56:26,520
Speaker 4: great you are, and that greatness is going to be

1080
00:56:26,560 --> 00:56:30,000
Speaker 4: the thing you are going to have invest into in

1081
00:56:30,080 --> 00:56:33,240
Speaker 4: terms of yourself if in fact there is no DII.

1082
00:56:33,440 --> 00:56:35,360
Speaker 4: Which is why he has the organization that he has,

1083
00:56:35,440 --> 00:56:37,440
Speaker 4: which is why he put eighty five million into people.

1084
00:56:37,800 --> 00:56:41,360
Speaker 4: He wants to give everybody the opportunity to be the best.

1085
00:56:42,000 --> 00:56:44,680
Speaker 1: See this makes me look at Van Lathen sideways because

1086
00:56:45,680 --> 00:56:48,280
Speaker 1: when he said that shit to you, yo as should

1087
00:56:48,280 --> 00:56:51,200
Speaker 1: have been like, I'm not parrotying that because that's still stupid.

1088
00:56:52,040 --> 00:56:54,759
Speaker 1: That's no better than what we thought you said. It's

1089
00:56:54,800 --> 00:56:57,920
Speaker 1: all still stupid. No matter if DEI goes away, us

1090
00:56:58,000 --> 00:57:01,319
Speaker 1: falling back on being the best, that does not get

1091
00:57:01,400 --> 00:57:02,080
Speaker 1: us in the door.

1092
00:57:02,320 --> 00:57:05,239
Speaker 5: And we never stopped caring about being the best. Like

1093
00:57:05,320 --> 00:57:06,680
Speaker 5: my thing is like the.

1094
00:57:06,680 --> 00:57:11,040
Speaker 4: False dichotomy of of like listen, do you want to

1095
00:57:11,080 --> 00:57:11,520
Speaker 4: be the best.

1096
00:57:11,560 --> 00:57:13,160
Speaker 3: Do you want to be black? Bitch?

1097
00:57:13,200 --> 00:57:15,719
Speaker 1: I'm both like what we're talking about, like, yes.

1098
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Speaker 3: I'm the best and I'm black. Some Yeah, it's really

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00:57:21,920 --> 00:57:22,600
Speaker 3: really annoying.

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Speaker 2: I think it's dope though I didn't know he was

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00:57:24,480 --> 00:57:29,160
Speaker 2: actually investing in uh, you know, black people.

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00:57:29,400 --> 00:57:30,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, business stuff like that.

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00:57:30,920 --> 00:57:33,760
Speaker 1: But doesn't that make you wonder why because it's probably

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00:57:33,800 --> 00:57:35,120
Speaker 1: profitable for him to do.

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00:57:35,040 --> 00:57:37,600
Speaker 2: That maybe, but he's been doing it for five years.

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00:57:37,640 --> 00:57:41,439
Speaker 2: I think this whole thing. I guess what maybe he's

1107
00:57:41,440 --> 00:57:45,400
Speaker 2: trying to position and based on what Van Layton said,

1108
00:57:45,400 --> 00:57:50,160
Speaker 2: he's doing is provide funding and money and for people

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00:57:50,200 --> 00:57:52,320
Speaker 2: that no longer.

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Speaker 3: Benefit from those programs.

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00:57:53,320 --> 00:57:55,919
Speaker 4: But he's been doing this before that became a thing,

1112
00:57:56,440 --> 00:57:58,680
Speaker 4: and maybe this is now a pivot that he's trying

1113
00:57:58,720 --> 00:57:59,440
Speaker 4: to do well.

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00:57:59,600 --> 00:58:03,040
Speaker 3: And just why is he investing in black people though?

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00:58:03,720 --> 00:58:05,440
Speaker 6: Right, especially if he thinks that way.

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00:58:05,280 --> 00:58:08,600
Speaker 4: About us, like like your money should be agnostic in

1117
00:58:08,640 --> 00:58:12,240
Speaker 4: that way, it's just to be like, oh, honestly, I'm

1118
00:58:12,280 --> 00:58:14,400
Speaker 4: just looking for the best idea. Why are you looking

1119
00:58:14,440 --> 00:58:19,520
Speaker 4: for black people? Because pipelines aren't historically or currently open

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00:58:19,600 --> 00:58:22,440
Speaker 4: to us, and so you are recognizing need that actually

1121
00:58:22,640 --> 00:58:24,880
Speaker 4: there's a lot of genius that goes untapped. There's a

1122
00:58:24,920 --> 00:58:29,160
Speaker 4: lot of incredible business ideas or creators market economy that

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00:58:29,520 --> 00:58:34,120
Speaker 4: does not get utilized because historically, and you know presently,

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00:58:34,880 --> 00:58:37,600
Speaker 4: we're not utilized in that way. So if you are

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00:58:37,640 --> 00:58:40,120
Speaker 4: like I'm going to create eighty five million, I'm gonna

1126
00:58:40,120 --> 00:58:43,000
Speaker 4: pour that into black and brown, you know what I'm saying, creators,

1127
00:58:43,320 --> 00:58:47,880
Speaker 4: then you yourself are acknowledging that these people are the

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00:58:47,920 --> 00:58:50,560
Speaker 4: best and there yeah, that there's exclusions going on.

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00:58:50,680 --> 00:58:53,120
Speaker 3: So that's the part that's like, what are you talking about?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I would I would definitely think that, or I

1131
00:58:57,480 --> 00:59:01,320
Speaker 1: would think that he has realized that within the last

1132
00:59:01,320 --> 00:59:05,280
Speaker 1: few years that it's profitable to look like you're doing that.

1133
00:59:05,680 --> 00:59:08,000
Speaker 1: And now he's switching sides because just like all these

1134
00:59:08,040 --> 00:59:11,120
Speaker 1: other companies that were running DEI programs, once Trump got

1135
00:59:11,160 --> 00:59:13,080
Speaker 1: an office and was like, Nope, this shit is no

1136
00:59:13,120 --> 00:59:16,560
Speaker 1: longer cool, they pulled them. This feels to me almost

1137
00:59:16,560 --> 00:59:19,600
Speaker 1: like Pharrella's doing a Walmart or doing an Amazon. I

1138
00:59:19,640 --> 00:59:21,720
Speaker 1: hope I'm wrong, because when you say he's been doing

1139
00:59:21,760 --> 00:59:23,320
Speaker 1: it for a while before it was cool, Well, one,

1140
00:59:23,400 --> 00:59:26,800
Speaker 1: it was definitely cooler prior than five years ago, and two.

1141
00:59:27,240 --> 00:59:29,560
Speaker 1: It just makes me question why, Just like you said,

1142
00:59:29,600 --> 00:59:31,720
Speaker 1: why are you doing this? If you think this about us,

1143
00:59:31,720 --> 00:59:33,680
Speaker 1: if you think that it's only about being the best,

1144
00:59:33,880 --> 00:59:36,360
Speaker 1: why are you then focusing on black creations.

1145
00:59:36,520 --> 00:59:37,480
Speaker 3: It doesn't make any sense to me.

1146
00:59:37,560 --> 00:59:39,120
Speaker 4: You know what a stretch and this is a stretch

1147
00:59:39,160 --> 00:59:42,000
Speaker 4: and goes to a different place exactly, but kind of

1148
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Speaker 4: connected is I didn't listen to y'all's conversation about Tyler.

1149
00:59:46,760 --> 00:59:48,920
Speaker 3: You don't talked about Tyler, yeah, and.

1150
00:59:48,920 --> 00:59:51,880
Speaker 4: His comments and stuff like that, and so I don't

1151
00:59:51,920 --> 00:59:53,439
Speaker 4: know all the things that you covered, so I don't

1152
00:59:53,440 --> 00:59:58,720
Speaker 4: want to rehashit, but with them, well, the big thing

1153
00:59:58,720 --> 01:00:01,080
Speaker 4: about it though, was like people are pulling up old

1154
01:00:01,080 --> 01:00:02,960
Speaker 4: tweets of his right and being like, oh, you were

1155
01:00:02,960 --> 01:00:05,120
Speaker 4: this type of way and now you're upset at white

1156
01:00:05,160 --> 01:00:06,960
Speaker 4: fans for not whatever.

1157
01:00:07,000 --> 01:00:08,680
Speaker 3: But that was the culture you created.

1158
01:00:09,200 --> 01:00:12,040
Speaker 4: And I just think that, like he while I appreciate

1159
01:00:12,080 --> 01:00:14,280
Speaker 4: who Tyler is now and what he's trying to do now,

1160
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Speaker 4: I think him.

1161
01:00:16,680 --> 01:00:17,280
Speaker 3: I think.

1162
01:00:18,600 --> 01:00:20,800
Speaker 4: As we get more distance, we have to be honest

1163
01:00:20,840 --> 01:00:24,840
Speaker 4: that like a lot of black artists realized they were

1164
01:00:24,920 --> 01:00:30,000
Speaker 4: black in that twenty fifteen, two thousand and eighteen, twenty

1165
01:00:30,080 --> 01:00:34,160
Speaker 4: twenty Like, No, like a lot of people utilize a

1166
01:00:34,200 --> 01:00:36,520
Speaker 4: lot of what it was going on in the call

1167
01:00:36,640 --> 01:00:41,480
Speaker 4: and then made Donald Glover childish Gambino. Like there's a

1168
01:00:41,520 --> 01:00:45,480
Speaker 4: bunch of things where people were like not necessarily like

1169
01:00:45,640 --> 01:00:47,960
Speaker 4: owning their ethnicity in a way. And I'm not saying

1170
01:00:48,040 --> 01:00:50,840
Speaker 4: like they had to for me or whatever. I'm just

1171
01:00:50,920 --> 01:00:55,480
Speaker 4: saying like it was a profitable decision to then lean

1172
01:00:55,600 --> 01:00:58,560
Speaker 4: into this. And that's where I'm connecting it to what

1173
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Speaker 4: you were saying potentially about Pharrell in this push, is

1174
01:01:02,040 --> 01:01:08,600
Speaker 4: that there's you know, to be uh, you know, cynical.

1175
01:01:09,040 --> 01:01:11,480
Speaker 4: You could look at some things that he's doing and

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01:01:11,520 --> 01:01:16,200
Speaker 4: be like, yeah, like you I mean Pharrell started popping

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01:01:16,200 --> 01:01:20,360
Speaker 4: in with oh oh one something like that.

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01:01:20,480 --> 01:01:22,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, Like I don't know, you know what I mean.

1179
01:01:22,320 --> 01:01:22,800
Speaker 3: It's like.

1180
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Speaker 4: Early Jay wasn't talking about black businesses. He was talking

1181
01:01:27,520 --> 01:01:30,760
Speaker 4: about you know what I'm saying, Like all of a

1182
01:01:30,800 --> 01:01:34,400
Speaker 4: sudden it became like his win is about all black

1183
01:01:34,400 --> 01:01:36,960
Speaker 4: people winning. Early on, it was a lot of like

1184
01:01:37,880 --> 01:01:40,600
Speaker 4: you know what he was doing, Yeah, what he was doing,

1185
01:01:40,600 --> 01:01:41,800
Speaker 4: you know what I mean. I mean, he's still a

1186
01:01:41,800 --> 01:01:43,600
Speaker 4: black capitalist at the end of the day. But I

1187
01:01:43,640 --> 01:01:46,560
Speaker 4: just think, like I don't know. I think this falls

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01:01:46,560 --> 01:01:49,680
Speaker 4: in line with a lot of these people who during

1189
01:01:50,120 --> 01:01:56,800
Speaker 4: the subsequent connection of like you know, Trayvon and all

1190
01:01:56,840 --> 01:01:59,920
Speaker 4: these people being you know, Mike Brown and then you

1191
01:02:00,200 --> 01:02:04,880
Speaker 4: connect you know, Black Messi and to Pimple Butterfly, like

1192
01:02:04,960 --> 01:02:07,520
Speaker 4: all of these things that were happening in the zeitgeist.

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01:02:07,880 --> 01:02:09,560
Speaker 4: I think a lot of people were like, oh, yeah,

1194
01:02:09,600 --> 01:02:12,160
Speaker 4: I need to lean into this a little bit more.

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01:02:12,480 --> 01:02:14,120
Speaker 4: I don't know, it's random.

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Speaker 1: It just again, it just it just sucks that someone

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01:02:16,760 --> 01:02:22,320
Speaker 1: as as influential as him is still stuck on this

1198
01:02:22,360 --> 01:02:25,640
Speaker 1: when we have every day black folks that we got

1199
01:02:25,680 --> 01:02:29,439
Speaker 1: to argue with about this stuff. You know, we got

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01:02:29,440 --> 01:02:32,520
Speaker 1: this fucking guy on a stage in sunglasses telling everybody

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01:02:32,520 --> 01:02:34,600
Speaker 1: the same shit. It's like, bro, come on man, what

1202
01:02:34,640 --> 01:02:40,120
Speaker 1: are we doing? Yeah, Like he doesn't get that. Like you,

1203
01:02:40,120 --> 01:02:44,560
Speaker 1: you you can price out of most issues, like we

1204
01:02:44,720 --> 01:02:47,800
Speaker 1: can't do that, Like yeah, that kind of rich. You

1205
01:02:47,960 --> 01:02:51,920
Speaker 1: have the privilege of just being able to step back

1206
01:02:52,560 --> 01:02:56,160
Speaker 1: and be like, Eh, this presidency is gonna happen, but

1207
01:02:56,400 --> 01:03:00,480
Speaker 1: I'm probably gonna be fine. A lot of people don't

1208
01:03:00,480 --> 01:03:04,160
Speaker 1: have that privilege. And then you're talking to us telling

1209
01:03:04,320 --> 01:03:06,840
Speaker 1: us we should be neutral. We don't have the option

1210
01:03:06,960 --> 01:03:07,560
Speaker 1: to be neutral.

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Speaker 5: It seems like he's having trying to have that create

1212
01:03:10,960 --> 01:03:13,320
Speaker 5: your table conversation. It's what it seems like he's trying

1213
01:03:13,360 --> 01:03:16,600
Speaker 5: to say, what does that mean? Like, don't wait for

1214
01:03:16,720 --> 01:03:18,400
Speaker 5: see that the table, create your own table.

1215
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Speaker 3: Okay.

1216
01:03:18,640 --> 01:03:21,920
Speaker 1: See, I hate that dumb shit because it implies that

1217
01:03:22,040 --> 01:03:26,640
Speaker 1: everybody has the option to just chill and wait. Some

1218
01:03:26,680 --> 01:03:28,720
Speaker 1: of us don't have that option, like it's it's it's

1219
01:03:29,840 --> 01:03:34,560
Speaker 1: I don't know, man, I just don't like when motherfucker's basically, yes,

1220
01:03:34,600 --> 01:03:38,320
Speaker 1: you're talented, but let's be real, a lot of success

1221
01:03:38,880 --> 01:03:44,080
Speaker 1: involves luck. You were lucky in that somebody heard you

1222
01:03:44,320 --> 01:03:47,320
Speaker 1: and said, shit, that motherfucker's dope, let me.

1223
01:03:47,240 --> 01:03:48,360
Speaker 3: Put you on stage.

1224
01:03:49,000 --> 01:03:51,840
Speaker 1: But you're acting like that luck shit had nothing to

1225
01:03:51,840 --> 01:03:54,160
Speaker 1: do with it, and it's only because you were such

1226
01:03:54,200 --> 01:03:56,760
Speaker 1: an amazing artist that that's where you're at.

1227
01:03:56,920 --> 01:03:57,840
Speaker 3: That's not the case.

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01:03:58,280 --> 01:03:59,200
Speaker 1: I guarantee you.

1229
01:03:59,280 --> 01:04:00,320
Speaker 3: I could go down on the.

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01:04:00,280 --> 01:04:03,040
Speaker 1: College park and find motherfuckers's dope as forel and that's

1231
01:04:03,080 --> 01:04:04,440
Speaker 1: not that's not some hyperbole.

1232
01:04:04,760 --> 01:04:05,800
Speaker 3: I'm telling you right now.

1233
01:04:05,920 --> 01:04:08,360
Speaker 1: I could if I really had the connections and wanted

1234
01:04:08,400 --> 01:04:11,000
Speaker 1: to spend time doing that. But there are motherfuckers as

1235
01:04:11,000 --> 01:04:13,120
Speaker 1: dope as him. They just didn't have the access he

1236
01:04:13,160 --> 01:04:15,200
Speaker 1: had or the luck to be discovered.

1237
01:04:15,280 --> 01:04:17,600
Speaker 5: I think the difference with him though, and this is

1238
01:04:17,640 --> 01:04:19,440
Speaker 5: not me trying to defend him. It's just based on

1239
01:04:19,560 --> 01:04:22,160
Speaker 5: what Ken has brought up about him. What he's doing

1240
01:04:22,400 --> 01:04:26,320
Speaker 5: is that he's he's putting millions in two and two

1241
01:04:26,440 --> 01:04:30,520
Speaker 5: people trying to create their own table, so to speak.

1242
01:04:30,800 --> 01:04:35,200
Speaker 2: Or their own luck, you know, to be discovered through

1243
01:04:35,320 --> 01:04:38,440
Speaker 2: his program. So he started, if it's this fifth, if

1244
01:04:38,480 --> 01:04:42,680
Speaker 2: it's the fifth year he started in twenty twenty, I

1245
01:04:42,680 --> 01:04:44,600
Speaker 2: don't know his intent at the moment.

1246
01:04:45,480 --> 01:04:49,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, huh no, I'm sure. Yeah. So, and you know,

1247
01:04:49,560 --> 01:04:54,760
Speaker 3: even mm hmm, what happened? What do you? What do you?

1248
01:04:54,840 --> 01:04:58,120
Speaker 3: What do you? What is he saying about that? I

1249
01:04:58,160 --> 01:04:59,360
Speaker 3: thought you your point.

1250
01:04:59,680 --> 01:05:02,120
Speaker 1: I thought I'm agreeing with it, But I'm not going

1251
01:05:02,200 --> 01:05:02,880
Speaker 1: to speak for him.

1252
01:05:02,920 --> 01:05:04,560
Speaker 3: But I know for a fact I agree with you.

1253
01:05:07,120 --> 01:05:11,680
Speaker 4: Probable the summer of George Floyd, racial reconcil you know,

1254
01:05:11,760 --> 01:05:14,320
Speaker 4: racial unrest, all of that was that time, and so

1255
01:05:14,680 --> 01:05:18,600
Speaker 4: to come up with a business plan that year, it's

1256
01:05:18,680 --> 01:05:21,720
Speaker 4: no different than Target or any of these other places

1257
01:05:21,720 --> 01:05:24,120
Speaker 4: who are like listen, y'all want can't take cloth. We're

1258
01:05:24,120 --> 01:05:26,640
Speaker 4: gonna sell that for you like we want, Like it's

1259
01:05:26,640 --> 01:05:29,520
Speaker 4: a it was expedient to do it during this time.

1260
01:05:29,600 --> 01:05:31,960
Speaker 5: Well, I know a lot of people started creating businesses

1261
01:05:31,960 --> 01:05:34,880
Speaker 5: around pandemic time or whatever.

1262
01:05:35,440 --> 01:05:37,520
Speaker 1: Well, it's not just the pandemic, I think. I think

1263
01:05:37,880 --> 01:05:40,560
Speaker 1: the I know it's for him, but I didn't think

1264
01:05:40,600 --> 01:05:42,840
Speaker 1: it really has much to do with that. I do,

1265
01:05:42,960 --> 01:05:45,120
Speaker 1: I do think it does no the for our stuff.

1266
01:05:46,120 --> 01:05:48,920
Speaker 1: I'm sure people create their own businesses because whatever. But

1267
01:05:49,800 --> 01:05:52,720
Speaker 1: in this discussion, the point of twenty twenty is that

1268
01:05:52,760 --> 01:05:57,440
Speaker 1: it was very profitable to be pro poc, just like

1269
01:05:58,040 --> 01:06:01,720
Speaker 1: it was very profitable to be queer. All of these

1270
01:06:01,760 --> 01:06:06,440
Speaker 1: things became very profitable. Target was putting fucking rainbows above

1271
01:06:06,560 --> 01:06:09,959
Speaker 1: T shirt displays. They yanked all of that ship down

1272
01:06:10,000 --> 01:06:12,600
Speaker 1: when it was no longer profitable or when they thought

1273
01:06:12,600 --> 01:06:14,960
Speaker 1: that they could get hit by the government. So then

1274
01:06:15,000 --> 01:06:16,760
Speaker 1: you look at Target and you say, Okay, did you

1275
01:06:16,840 --> 01:06:19,520
Speaker 1: ever care in the first place? That's what I'm saying

1276
01:06:19,520 --> 01:06:21,880
Speaker 1: when it comes to Pharrell. Did you only do this

1277
01:06:21,920 --> 01:06:24,440
Speaker 1: because it was profitable or did you actually give a

1278
01:06:24,480 --> 01:06:27,800
Speaker 1: fuck about the people that are being ignored in these rooms?

1279
01:06:28,040 --> 01:06:31,520
Speaker 3: And creating their own table. It's creating your own table.

1280
01:06:31,560 --> 01:06:32,240
Speaker 3: Shit is bullshit.

1281
01:06:32,240 --> 01:06:34,800
Speaker 5: But it seems like he's aligned with the whole Afrotech thing.

1282
01:06:35,120 --> 01:06:37,720
Speaker 5: What's the afrotech one, So that's like the media technic

1283
01:06:37,920 --> 01:06:42,800
Speaker 5: tech company that is under blavity and that was that

1284
01:06:42,880 --> 01:06:45,680
Speaker 5: was created by.

1285
01:06:45,320 --> 01:06:48,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's this is a whole black movement.

1286
01:06:48,280 --> 01:06:52,440
Speaker 4: It's a it's a it's is it semi is it

1287
01:06:52,480 --> 01:06:53,960
Speaker 4: twice a year or just once a year?

1288
01:06:54,400 --> 01:06:59,880
Speaker 2: The conference that's the Afrotech conference, but it's under like

1289
01:07:00,080 --> 01:07:02,120
Speaker 2: you said, is it a subsidiary of it or whatever?

1290
01:07:02,200 --> 01:07:05,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, so bla Blavity was created by a black.

1291
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Speaker 5: Woman, sure or whatever, and that's just funding black businesses

1292
01:07:10,240 --> 01:07:11,000
Speaker 5: things like that.

1293
01:07:12,680 --> 01:07:14,840
Speaker 1: But when you say he's in line with that, what

1294
01:07:14,920 --> 01:07:15,600
Speaker 1: are we talking about?

1295
01:07:15,600 --> 01:07:18,520
Speaker 2: Because what you said it was reported on afrotech, right,

1296
01:07:18,720 --> 01:07:21,280
Speaker 2: But yeah, I think they were just covering it though.

1297
01:07:21,400 --> 01:07:24,200
Speaker 2: I think they they just cover what he was doing.

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01:07:24,520 --> 01:07:26,919
Speaker 2: Oh so they just yeah, that was where I read

1299
01:07:26,920 --> 01:07:31,200
Speaker 2: the article. That was my sourcetecht point. Even if he

1300
01:07:31,280 --> 01:07:33,200
Speaker 2: was in line with Afrotech, what difference would that mean.

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01:07:33,840 --> 01:07:35,480
Speaker 2: I don't know if it would make much of a difference,

1302
01:07:35,480 --> 01:07:37,320
Speaker 2: But I think going back to what you were saying

1303
01:07:37,320 --> 01:07:39,080
Speaker 2: and what you were saying, and what Jaylon was saying

1304
01:07:39,120 --> 01:07:44,920
Speaker 2: is that it's possible that in twenty twenty, when everything

1305
01:07:45,040 --> 01:07:49,920
Speaker 2: was happening, that he was like he was disconnected from everything,

1306
01:07:50,760 --> 01:07:53,560
Speaker 2: and then that was a realization and awakening that happened.

1307
01:07:53,680 --> 01:07:56,400
Speaker 2: He was like, oh shit, black people in trouble. I

1308
01:07:56,440 --> 01:07:59,120
Speaker 2: need to try to do something to help them. I'm

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01:07:59,160 --> 01:08:02,160
Speaker 2: just I don't know if that's I'm just saying. I'm

1310
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Speaker 2: just trying to connect. I don't know, you know what

1311
01:08:05,040 --> 01:08:05,480
Speaker 2: I'm saying.

1312
01:08:05,560 --> 01:08:08,040
Speaker 4: So that's why I'm like, I'm not definitive that that

1313
01:08:08,200 --> 01:08:10,800
Speaker 4: wasn't the case. Like this is a this is a

1314
01:08:10,840 --> 01:08:13,960
Speaker 4: sphere of influence I have I can put money up

1315
01:08:13,960 --> 01:08:16,200
Speaker 4: to or help you know, create this pipeline.

1316
01:08:16,360 --> 01:08:19,599
Speaker 3: It's just curious that it changed and it changed. Now,

1317
01:08:20,280 --> 01:08:21,000
Speaker 3: well that's the thing.

1318
01:08:21,800 --> 01:08:28,280
Speaker 5: He's technically not changed any function of the program, the

1319
01:08:28,360 --> 01:08:33,439
Speaker 5: bit like that pipeline, but the conversation that he's having

1320
01:08:33,520 --> 01:08:35,720
Speaker 5: about it, like the mentality about it.

1321
01:08:35,840 --> 01:08:38,040
Speaker 3: Yes, it's that's the part that I agree.

1322
01:08:38,080 --> 01:08:41,439
Speaker 4: I'm like, there's a dissonance here, like because what does

1323
01:08:41,479 --> 01:08:43,439
Speaker 4: this mean if you're saying this.

1324
01:08:43,320 --> 01:08:46,680
Speaker 3: And did you have that attitude when you created this program.

1325
01:08:46,800 --> 01:08:48,760
Speaker 3: It's like, why why not?

1326
01:08:48,920 --> 01:08:51,439
Speaker 2: Because I don't But see, I don't know if the

1327
01:08:51,479 --> 01:08:55,320
Speaker 2: whole DEI thing was at the forefront of his mind

1328
01:08:55,640 --> 01:08:59,799
Speaker 2: at that time, because this whole thing really really started

1329
01:08:59,800 --> 01:09:02,000
Speaker 2: with a couple of years ago with Trump and all

1330
01:09:02,040 --> 01:09:05,400
Speaker 2: these other people right in terms of like criticizing it

1331
01:09:05,439 --> 01:09:06,679
Speaker 2: as heavy as they did.

1332
01:09:07,320 --> 01:09:10,200
Speaker 1: Maybe, but that conversation has been going on for as

1333
01:09:10,200 --> 01:09:13,120
Speaker 1: long as I can remember that black people only get

1334
01:09:13,240 --> 01:09:14,880
Speaker 1: jobs because they're black.

1335
01:09:15,120 --> 01:09:16,839
Speaker 2: No, no, no, I know that, But I'm talking about

1336
01:09:16,960 --> 01:09:20,760
Speaker 2: the ramped up attacks on it.

1337
01:09:22,040 --> 01:09:24,640
Speaker 1: I think maybe we just started hearing them more publicly

1338
01:09:24,720 --> 01:09:26,320
Speaker 1: because Trump was saying them.

1339
01:09:26,520 --> 01:09:28,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying.

1340
01:09:28,400 --> 01:09:33,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, Yeah, he brought it to the mainstream, and.

1341
01:09:33,400 --> 01:09:35,360
Speaker 1: I think that I think it was already in the mainstream.

1342
01:09:35,360 --> 01:09:36,360
Speaker 3: That's what I'm That's what I'm saying.

1343
01:09:36,400 --> 01:09:42,040
Speaker 1: I think I think ninety companies believe that statement, which

1344
01:09:42,080 --> 01:09:44,960
Speaker 1: is that black folks are just getting jobs because they're black,

1345
01:09:45,400 --> 01:09:48,120
Speaker 1: and I think the majority of a white people believe that,

1346
01:09:48,200 --> 01:09:50,840
Speaker 1: and unfortunately some black folks believe that.

1347
01:09:51,960 --> 01:09:55,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, Okay, I don't think I'm explaining it.

1348
01:09:55,240 --> 01:09:57,840
Speaker 1: Correctly, So I might just be a misunderstanding.

1349
01:09:58,120 --> 01:10:01,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, so because my wife work has been working in

1350
01:10:01,800 --> 01:10:10,880
Speaker 2: the field for years. The whole anti woke thing, I

1351
01:10:10,920 --> 01:10:13,599
Speaker 2: think is where a lot of this stuff started to

1352
01:10:13,800 --> 01:10:19,720
Speaker 2: kind of fall under the umbrella. And he used the attacks,

1353
01:10:19,800 --> 01:10:22,519
Speaker 2: He used that critical race theory, all that thing, all

1354
01:10:22,560 --> 01:10:26,080
Speaker 2: of those things in order to get himself back into

1355
01:10:26,200 --> 01:10:30,000
Speaker 2: office by making it seem to white people that they

1356
01:10:30,000 --> 01:10:33,200
Speaker 2: were losing out on opportunities to black people.

1357
01:10:33,280 --> 01:10:34,840
Speaker 1: No, I think he just made it to where they

1358
01:10:34,840 --> 01:10:37,639
Speaker 1: felt comfortable saying it out loud in public. They always

1359
01:10:37,760 --> 01:10:40,000
Speaker 1: thought that, and they probably always said it.

1360
01:10:40,120 --> 01:10:42,520
Speaker 4: Right, right, right, But it wasn't covered by the mainstream

1361
01:10:42,600 --> 01:10:45,439
Speaker 4: media as heavily as it was. It probably was just

1362
01:10:45,479 --> 01:10:48,679
Speaker 4: a conversation that was just taking place. But then everywhere

1363
01:10:48,680 --> 01:10:51,559
Speaker 4: we looked there was like a conversation about DII over

1364
01:10:51,640 --> 01:10:52,599
Speaker 4: and over and over again.

1365
01:10:52,720 --> 01:10:57,559
Speaker 3: I mean, it's just been saying people quiet part yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

1366
01:10:57,600 --> 01:10:57,960
Speaker 3: yea yeah.

1367
01:10:58,040 --> 01:11:02,840
Speaker 4: That's starting to kick in, as which Creation Project twenty

1368
01:11:02,840 --> 01:11:06,360
Speaker 4: twenty five, like these are concerted efforts.

1369
01:11:06,439 --> 01:11:08,439
Speaker 3: This is how we will take back these things.

1370
01:11:08,760 --> 01:11:12,960
Speaker 4: Right, I saw all of these schools or businesses all

1371
01:11:13,000 --> 01:11:14,600
Speaker 4: of a sudden, they're getting rid of the Office of

1372
01:11:14,640 --> 01:11:18,160
Speaker 4: d I, which was not a bad thing to like have.

1373
01:11:18,080 --> 01:11:22,559
Speaker 3: It was a thing, yeah Floyd. Yeah blah blah blah blah.

1374
01:11:23,040 --> 01:11:25,479
Speaker 4: Now like they're trying to find new ways to like, oh,

1375
01:11:25,560 --> 01:11:27,400
Speaker 4: this is the office of belonging or something like, they

1376
01:11:27,479 --> 01:11:31,479
Speaker 4: use different words. But yeah, So basically it was like

1377
01:11:31,920 --> 01:11:35,760
Speaker 4: it became popular with George Floyd and then it was like, oh,

1378
01:11:35,800 --> 01:11:38,000
Speaker 4: we got to take it back. So that's when the

1379
01:11:38,000 --> 01:11:43,600
Speaker 4: whole anti you know, BLM all this other movements's.

1380
01:11:42,400 --> 01:11:46,080
Speaker 5: Point it was, it was never not a conversation. It

1381
01:11:46,280 --> 01:11:48,320
Speaker 5: just was not the forefront.

1382
01:11:48,400 --> 01:11:52,519
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was like like you know, publicized in that

1383
01:11:52,560 --> 01:11:55,880
Speaker 4: type of way. But I mean you we had affirmative

1384
01:11:55,920 --> 01:11:59,600
Speaker 4: action taken away before twenty twenty, like you know what

1385
01:11:59,600 --> 01:12:02,519
Speaker 4: I'm saying exactly, and that literally comes out of if

1386
01:12:02,560 --> 01:12:04,720
Speaker 4: you press some white people, they will think, oh, if

1387
01:12:04,760 --> 01:12:06,559
Speaker 4: you're black, you can go to college for free, right,

1388
01:12:06,760 --> 01:12:07,880
Speaker 4: and that's why people they'll give you.

1389
01:12:08,800 --> 01:12:10,799
Speaker 3: Yeah, and that's not how this works.

1390
01:12:10,960 --> 01:12:15,000
Speaker 2: So yeah, which you know, they look at the as

1391
01:12:15,040 --> 01:12:18,439
Speaker 2: a as a form of affirmative action as as well,

1392
01:12:19,080 --> 01:12:21,360
Speaker 2: which is it's not just black folks.

1393
01:12:21,360 --> 01:12:22,800
Speaker 3: It's like there are a lot of people under the

1394
01:12:22,920 --> 01:12:23,600
Speaker 3: umbrella of d I.

1395
01:12:24,000 --> 01:12:27,479
Speaker 2: But the whole thing is that maybe for for real,

1396
01:12:28,840 --> 01:12:32,639
Speaker 2: he was unaware of it in the way that he

1397
01:12:32,760 --> 01:12:33,920
Speaker 2: is now.

1398
01:12:35,240 --> 01:12:36,120
Speaker 3: D I.

1399
01:12:36,120 --> 01:12:39,920
Speaker 1: I don't believe that, you don't think so. No, I

1400
01:12:39,960 --> 01:12:45,720
Speaker 1: don't believe that because it's profitable, right.

1401
01:12:50,400 --> 01:12:50,479
Speaker 3: No.

1402
01:12:50,800 --> 01:12:53,200
Speaker 2: I thought I was thinking that it's possibly created the

1403
01:12:53,280 --> 01:12:56,920
Speaker 2: program because of like his his his.

1404
01:12:57,600 --> 01:13:01,040
Speaker 3: Realization and about everything that was happening.

1405
01:13:01,040 --> 01:13:02,760
Speaker 2: It's kind of like what he was saying about like,

1406
01:13:03,240 --> 01:13:05,880
Speaker 2: oh shit, I'm black and black people are not getting opportunities.

1407
01:13:05,960 --> 01:13:11,880
Speaker 4: Let me invest in my community and then free or whenever.

1408
01:13:11,600 --> 01:13:15,360
Speaker 2: This conversation started taking place in the public, you know,

1409
01:13:15,840 --> 01:13:16,519
Speaker 2: uh is.

1410
01:13:16,520 --> 01:13:18,040
Speaker 3: When and then it was removed.

1411
01:13:18,800 --> 01:13:21,519
Speaker 2: Then that's when he was like, Okay, now there's this

1412
01:13:21,680 --> 01:13:25,639
Speaker 2: other aspect of it that I need to address as

1413
01:13:25,680 --> 01:13:27,200
Speaker 2: well with this program that I have.

1414
01:13:27,400 --> 01:13:31,360
Speaker 1: I think what you're saying is best case scenario. Okay, yeah,

1415
01:13:31,600 --> 01:13:38,599
Speaker 1: best case scenarios definitely, right, right, that's what you're saying.

1416
01:13:40,320 --> 01:13:42,519
Speaker 2: I don't but yeah, I don't think it's to griff though.

1417
01:13:42,600 --> 01:13:45,840
Speaker 2: I think he's he's like, okay, I need to I

1418
01:13:45,840 --> 01:13:46,439
Speaker 2: don't think it's.

1419
01:13:46,360 --> 01:13:49,960
Speaker 1: A Griffine care I think. And then he changed his

1420
01:13:49,960 --> 01:13:51,519
Speaker 1: mind at some point I don't.

1421
01:13:51,360 --> 01:13:53,360
Speaker 2: Think there's a changing of the mind. I think there's

1422
01:13:53,400 --> 01:13:58,400
Speaker 2: a there's a he's stilling a void that has been removed.

1423
01:13:58,600 --> 01:13:59,160
Speaker 6: What void?

1424
01:14:00,080 --> 01:14:01,599
Speaker 3: Well, he said it like these.

1425
01:14:01,479 --> 01:14:05,479
Speaker 2: DI programs are going away, so therefore, how can I

1426
01:14:05,640 --> 01:14:07,120
Speaker 2: help contribute.

1427
01:14:06,720 --> 01:14:07,960
Speaker 3: To But what what?

1428
01:14:08,520 --> 01:14:11,000
Speaker 1: Okay, they get on to us about going too long

1429
01:14:11,080 --> 01:14:13,640
Speaker 1: because we don't understand shit. The only thing I'll say is,

1430
01:14:13,880 --> 01:14:16,360
Speaker 1: none of that makes me fucking sense. I don't want

1431
01:14:16,400 --> 01:14:17,800
Speaker 1: to ark. Not not that you're saying, no.

1432
01:14:17,720 --> 01:14:19,559
Speaker 3: I gotcha, I got you. I'm just trying to yet

1433
01:14:19,640 --> 01:14:22,439
Speaker 3: I get said. Everything that's happening. Yeah, I'm just gonna say.

1434
01:14:22,760 --> 01:14:24,360
Speaker 1: I could probably go on for another thirty minutes, but

1435
01:14:24,479 --> 01:14:26,320
Speaker 1: none of that makes any sense to me.

1436
01:14:27,120 --> 01:14:31,160
Speaker 4: They weren't going away when he created it in twenty twenty.

1437
01:14:31,200 --> 01:14:35,040
Speaker 4: They were actually flourished, like like that was he was

1438
01:14:35,160 --> 01:14:38,800
Speaker 4: in line and in lockstep with every This is the

1439
01:14:38,840 --> 01:14:42,960
Speaker 4: point we were making every other organization, government, business, but

1440
01:14:43,040 --> 01:14:47,320
Speaker 4: like everyone was doing this same thing that he did

1441
01:14:47,600 --> 01:14:50,840
Speaker 4: in twenty twenty. And if we're looking at all of

1442
01:14:50,880 --> 01:14:53,800
Speaker 4: these other businesses as they have slowly started to roll

1443
01:14:53,840 --> 01:14:58,720
Speaker 4: back these things, we're asking the question that while the

1444
01:14:59,280 --> 01:15:02,639
Speaker 4: program he create it is still going and it's still moving.

1445
01:15:03,880 --> 01:15:06,880
Speaker 4: Why is he expressing this view that seems to be

1446
01:15:07,360 --> 01:15:12,000
Speaker 4: antithetical to that program? And that's the part where we're like,

1447
01:15:12,640 --> 01:15:16,320
Speaker 4: I don't know what that means, and I'm saying.

1448
01:15:15,720 --> 01:15:16,519
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know.

1449
01:15:16,600 --> 01:15:19,080
Speaker 4: I don't I literally don't know, because it is at

1450
01:15:19,120 --> 01:15:22,840
Speaker 4: odds with what what you've created the program for, you

1451
01:15:22,880 --> 01:15:25,160
Speaker 4: know what I mean? And if you really feel this way,

1452
01:15:25,720 --> 01:15:27,839
Speaker 4: why did you you know what has changed?

1453
01:15:27,880 --> 01:15:27,920
Speaker 3: What?

1454
01:15:28,000 --> 01:15:31,080
Speaker 4: Blah blah blah. That's all like, we don't know any

1455
01:15:31,080 --> 01:15:33,559
Speaker 4: more than that. And I think everything he was saying

1456
01:15:33,560 --> 01:15:36,080
Speaker 4: to Van though, makes it be just like, yeah, I

1457
01:15:36,080 --> 01:15:37,080
Speaker 4: think you think we're stupid.

1458
01:15:37,479 --> 01:15:39,439
Speaker 3: Exactly we heard you.

1459
01:15:39,760 --> 01:15:42,679
Speaker 4: Now you might feel differently, you might have some other,

1460
01:15:42,960 --> 01:15:44,719
Speaker 4: you know, view you want to get out, but don't

1461
01:15:44,720 --> 01:15:47,519
Speaker 4: tell us that we're wrong for taking the words you said.

1462
01:15:48,400 --> 01:15:51,080
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying and being look, take accountability.

1463
01:15:51,200 --> 01:15:53,000
Speaker 3: Yeah that's really all you know what I mean?

1464
01:15:53,160 --> 01:15:55,080
Speaker 4: And He's just like, yoah, I just think that the

1465
01:15:55,120 --> 01:15:56,680
Speaker 4: context of what I was saying.

1466
01:15:56,680 --> 01:15:59,080
Speaker 3: So we got it. We got exactly what you said

1467
01:15:59,120 --> 01:15:59,880
Speaker 3: and you said something for.

1468
01:16:02,240 --> 01:16:06,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, apologize for saying something stupid or if that's

1469
01:16:06,000 --> 01:16:08,040
Speaker 1: how you feel, and fucking stand on it, and we

1470
01:16:08,080 --> 01:16:10,800
Speaker 1: can put you in that bucket and be good. But

1471
01:16:10,840 --> 01:16:13,400
Speaker 1: don't like we misunderstood you. We didn't misunderstand you.

1472
01:16:13,479 --> 01:16:16,640
Speaker 4: So firm invasion was repealed in twenty twenty three, and

1473
01:16:16,680 --> 01:16:20,360
Speaker 4: then the DEEA stuff started in the middle of last

1474
01:16:20,400 --> 01:16:21,320
Speaker 4: year in terms.

1475
01:16:21,120 --> 01:16:24,719
Speaker 3: Of corporate rollbacks, the rollback part.

1476
01:16:24,560 --> 01:16:27,760
Speaker 2: Of it when they were actively canceling the offices and

1477
01:16:27,800 --> 01:16:30,920
Speaker 2: all the other stuff. So, but he started this in

1478
01:16:31,000 --> 01:16:35,519
Speaker 2: twenty twenty when none of that was being rolled back.

1479
01:16:35,560 --> 01:16:39,200
Speaker 2: It was actually incentivized to create these things.

1480
01:16:38,920 --> 01:16:40,800
Speaker 4: Which is why I'm like, actually, not to say you

1481
01:16:40,800 --> 01:16:43,639
Speaker 4: don't get points. I'm just like, hey, like cool, you're

1482
01:16:43,640 --> 01:16:44,320
Speaker 4: an opportunist.

1483
01:16:44,400 --> 01:16:45,960
Speaker 3: I'm not. I'm not mad at that.

1484
01:16:46,080 --> 01:16:51,400
Speaker 4: Like I'm just wondering if he's reacting to the change

1485
01:16:51,560 --> 01:16:52,919
Speaker 4: that has happened.

1486
01:16:53,000 --> 01:16:55,040
Speaker 3: I think so. I think so.

1487
01:16:55,720 --> 01:16:59,680
Speaker 4: I just don't know, like, if he's reacting to that

1488
01:16:59,800 --> 01:17:03,920
Speaker 4: chain that's you can do that. I just I'm just like,

1489
01:17:04,720 --> 01:17:07,840
Speaker 4: I don't know how principal you are, no, I think

1490
01:17:09,240 --> 01:17:11,720
Speaker 4: because yeah, and that's fine. We have to work with

1491
01:17:11,760 --> 01:17:14,160
Speaker 4: people who have shitty principles all the time. Like it's

1492
01:17:14,160 --> 01:17:16,800
Speaker 4: not like a disqualifying like, hey, don't ever work with

1493
01:17:16,880 --> 01:17:20,720
Speaker 4: Pharrell or Farrell's it's just literally like, oh, okay, I

1494
01:17:20,720 --> 01:17:23,160
Speaker 4: I know you are moving as the wind shift, and

1495
01:17:23,200 --> 01:17:24,240
Speaker 4: that's just what I know.

1496
01:17:24,360 --> 01:17:27,840
Speaker 2: I think I think he just said something stupid because

1497
01:17:27,880 --> 01:17:29,640
Speaker 2: I don't I don't really know, because I don't know

1498
01:17:29,680 --> 01:17:32,600
Speaker 2: the business. I don't know what changes he's done in

1499
01:17:32,720 --> 01:17:37,439
Speaker 2: his company. Yeah, you know, to react to this, I

1500
01:17:37,520 --> 01:17:40,240
Speaker 2: think he was asked a question and maybe he think

1501
01:17:40,400 --> 01:17:44,240
Speaker 2: these things, and which is answer the question and didn't

1502
01:17:44,240 --> 01:17:45,439
Speaker 2: give a very clear answer.

1503
01:17:45,920 --> 01:17:48,559
Speaker 3: His mom said, you said something dumb. Understand. I don't know,

1504
01:17:48,840 --> 01:17:50,120
Speaker 3: so it's crazy.

1505
01:17:52,200 --> 01:17:55,639
Speaker 1: Yeah, y'all, y'all afford rich people a lot of fucking grace.

1506
01:17:56,560 --> 01:18:01,280
Speaker 1: If this was some poor negro on the street, thank

1507
01:18:01,320 --> 01:18:04,040
Speaker 1: you that said this ship, y'all would not be jumping

1508
01:18:04,040 --> 01:18:06,280
Speaker 1: through hoops to try to figure out, oh, maybe he

1509
01:18:06,520 --> 01:18:09,479
Speaker 1: just nah, y'all y'all would y'all would be like, oh,

1510
01:18:09,520 --> 01:18:11,400
Speaker 1: that nigga is stupid, That's what y'all would.

1511
01:18:11,520 --> 01:18:13,120
Speaker 3: I'm just trying to y'all looking.

1512
01:18:12,960 --> 01:18:15,439
Speaker 1: At for real because it's for real, and y'all be like, Na,

1513
01:18:15,520 --> 01:18:18,120
Speaker 1: he can't be stupid because look, he has a bunch

1514
01:18:18,160 --> 01:18:19,000
Speaker 1: of money.

1515
01:18:19,240 --> 01:18:22,960
Speaker 3: He can make ninety thousand dollars boots. I love clips,

1516
01:18:23,360 --> 01:18:26,599
Speaker 3: so he's gotta be smart. No, maybe he's a fucking dumbass.

1517
01:18:26,640 --> 01:18:28,479
Speaker 5: It was only because he came back around and talked

1518
01:18:28,479 --> 01:18:29,960
Speaker 5: to him about it. If he would have never did,

1519
01:18:30,160 --> 01:18:32,840
Speaker 5: but damn help. I felt like that did help.

1520
01:18:33,040 --> 01:18:34,640
Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying. That's what

1521
01:18:34,640 --> 01:18:34,960
Speaker 3: I'm saying.

1522
01:18:35,000 --> 01:18:38,360
Speaker 5: Y'all just talking about did it? I was like, okay,

1523
01:18:38,200 --> 01:18:40,080
Speaker 5: he was. He started with some bullshit.

1524
01:18:40,000 --> 01:18:40,719
Speaker 3: And said that.

1525
01:18:41,600 --> 01:18:47,400
Speaker 1: You though he didn't say anything different than what he's said.

1526
01:18:47,240 --> 01:18:51,240
Speaker 3: On the stage with what he's pulled up, is that what.

1527
01:18:51,200 --> 01:18:53,960
Speaker 1: I'm I don't know what you're we're all mixing stuff

1528
01:18:55,280 --> 01:18:57,160
Speaker 1: because I feel like what he pulled up he was trying.

1529
01:18:57,280 --> 01:18:59,439
Speaker 3: He was trying to say, like the only thing I

1530
01:18:59,560 --> 01:19:00,800
Speaker 3: was pointing outs that he created.

1531
01:19:00,800 --> 01:19:02,680
Speaker 2: This thing has been around for five years and he

1532
01:19:02,760 --> 01:19:04,880
Speaker 2: created in twenty twenty.

1533
01:19:04,920 --> 01:19:08,479
Speaker 3: Sometimes, and that says to me that, you know, it

1534
01:19:08,520 --> 01:19:10,599
Speaker 3: wasn't like, uh, you know.

1535
01:19:12,040 --> 01:19:14,280
Speaker 5: Pull yourself up by your bootstraps type thing. It was

1536
01:19:14,360 --> 01:19:17,360
Speaker 5: just like, well, nah, just you know, don't worry about that.

1537
01:19:17,400 --> 01:19:19,320
Speaker 5: You you you're better than that. You can create your

1538
01:19:19,320 --> 01:19:19,800
Speaker 5: own ship.

1539
01:19:20,200 --> 01:19:20,599
Speaker 4: Everybody.

1540
01:19:22,120 --> 01:19:27,120
Speaker 3: Mm hmm everybody, every rich person has about it. That

1541
01:19:27,160 --> 01:19:30,800
Speaker 3: don't change shit about what they believe. Absolutely not. I mean, yeah,

1542
01:19:30,880 --> 01:19:33,519
Speaker 3: that's you know importantly.

1543
01:19:34,640 --> 01:19:36,160
Speaker 5: That's why y'all got talking about it like it don't

1544
01:19:36,280 --> 01:19:39,960
Speaker 5: really be like, yeah, you're doing that, but that don't

1545
01:19:40,000 --> 01:19:42,360
Speaker 5: change I got.

1546
01:19:42,200 --> 01:19:47,519
Speaker 6: Money, get this, Manny Mike. But I agree, Yeah.

1547
01:19:48,120 --> 01:19:50,040
Speaker 5: The only thing that conflicts with me is this whole

1548
01:19:50,160 --> 01:19:52,160
Speaker 5: Louis Bitime position he has.

1549
01:19:52,600 --> 01:19:55,680
Speaker 3: It's like, you're literally at the table. He like you did.

1550
01:19:56,000 --> 01:19:59,200
Speaker 1: You didn't create your own But that's crazy if he

1551
01:19:59,320 --> 01:20:02,240
Speaker 1: I guarantee he thinks he's at that table because he

1552
01:20:02,560 --> 01:20:05,040
Speaker 1: is the absolute best person to be at that table.

1553
01:20:05,360 --> 01:20:06,600
Speaker 3: I guarantee that.

1554
01:20:06,800 --> 01:20:09,000
Speaker 5: Yeah, but even if that is the case, it goes

1555
01:20:09,040 --> 01:20:13,360
Speaker 5: against what he's pushing because you're working for Louis Vatan

1556
01:20:14,320 --> 01:20:17,560
Speaker 5: or he's gonna look at getting them richer like you're.

1557
01:20:17,320 --> 01:20:20,599
Speaker 3: You're but he's using that to help He's gonna look

1558
01:20:20,680 --> 01:20:21,000
Speaker 3: like he's.

1559
01:20:20,920 --> 01:20:24,760
Speaker 1: Being contracted just like you. Right, you're your own business.

1560
01:20:25,200 --> 01:20:27,400
Speaker 1: Let's say Apple contracts you to come in and do

1561
01:20:27,479 --> 01:20:30,559
Speaker 1: a photo sho you're still your own business. You will

1562
01:20:30,600 --> 01:20:32,800
Speaker 1: still look at it like I created that spot that

1563
01:20:32,840 --> 01:20:35,200
Speaker 1: got me there, and that could be the case. But

1564
01:20:35,240 --> 01:20:37,519
Speaker 1: he's gonna look at it the same way I created

1565
01:20:37,560 --> 01:20:42,040
Speaker 1: this spot, I created this whatever that got me here.

1566
01:20:42,880 --> 01:20:44,639
Speaker 3: He's not gonna look at it like, Oh, I'm only

1567
01:20:44,640 --> 01:20:49,320
Speaker 3: here because my name is Pharrell Williams. But we all

1568
01:20:49,400 --> 01:20:49,680
Speaker 3: know that.

1569
01:20:49,760 --> 01:20:52,040
Speaker 1: But what I'm saying is he he may not even

1570
01:20:52,080 --> 01:20:57,679
Speaker 1: think that way.

1571
01:20:59,680 --> 01:21:01,599
Speaker 6: I know I'm not that lame.

1572
01:21:05,680 --> 01:21:10,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, and Kanye was not a person that's viable.

1573
01:21:11,520 --> 01:21:13,639
Speaker 4: Yeah, Okay, So I found the stupid shit he said

1574
01:21:14,160 --> 01:21:16,640
Speaker 4: years ago, which is why I was like, this is

1575
01:21:16,680 --> 01:21:21,360
Speaker 4: why I have like a general distrust of Pharrell's politics.

1576
01:21:21,600 --> 01:21:25,000
Speaker 4: Is in twenty fourteen, which is of course the time

1577
01:21:25,560 --> 01:21:28,400
Speaker 4: he started popping as a solo artist with Happy and

1578
01:21:28,439 --> 01:21:33,880
Speaker 4: that shit blowing up everywhere, he said he defined something

1579
01:21:34,040 --> 01:21:35,000
Speaker 4: called the New Black.

1580
01:21:35,600 --> 01:21:36,720
Speaker 6: Oh so he started that.

1581
01:21:37,760 --> 01:21:40,320
Speaker 4: This was a conversation he had with Oprah. He said,

1582
01:21:40,360 --> 01:21:44,320
Speaker 4: the new Black doesn't blame other races for our issues,

1583
01:21:44,840 --> 01:21:48,480
Speaker 4: said Pharrell, one of the world's most successful musicians, to Oprah,

1584
01:21:48,800 --> 01:21:52,760
Speaker 4: the new Black dreams and realizes that it's not pigmentation.

1585
01:21:53,439 --> 01:21:56,639
Speaker 4: It's a mentality, and it's either going to work for

1586
01:21:56,720 --> 01:21:59,320
Speaker 4: you or it's going to work against you. And you've

1587
01:21:59,320 --> 01:22:01,920
Speaker 4: got to pick the side you're going to be on.

1588
01:22:02,439 --> 01:22:05,120
Speaker 4: I told you he was on bullshit, which is why

1589
01:22:05,160 --> 01:22:07,160
Speaker 4: them human shoes.

1590
01:22:06,760 --> 01:22:07,360
Speaker 3: That he I was.

1591
01:22:07,400 --> 01:22:10,400
Speaker 4: I'm telling you all of it falls in lines. This

1592
01:22:10,439 --> 01:22:16,840
Speaker 4: is the type of he be on. Yeah, yeah, right

1593
01:22:18,280 --> 01:22:21,760
Speaker 4: right and honestly alright by Kendrick And that was honestly

1594
01:22:21,880 --> 01:22:25,880
Speaker 4: just ubiquitous, like like like soaked up. No, it just

1595
01:22:25,920 --> 01:22:31,320
Speaker 4: got ended up being like absorbed by the black Zeit

1596
01:22:31,320 --> 01:22:33,040
Speaker 4: guy's protest because you listen to the song, it's not

1597
01:22:33,080 --> 01:22:35,360
Speaker 4: a protest song. It just we just like saying the

1598
01:22:35,400 --> 01:22:38,600
Speaker 4: hook part of it because he created it originally, y'all know,

1599
01:22:38,920 --> 01:22:41,080
Speaker 4: you know, fabulous had that beat originally and there's a

1600
01:22:41,080 --> 01:22:43,200
Speaker 4: whole fabulous song to it like that.

1601
01:22:43,280 --> 01:22:45,960
Speaker 3: It's like, actually, no, this didn't work. So but yes,

1602
01:22:46,000 --> 01:22:48,840
Speaker 3: I agree with you. You know what I'm saying. I

1603
01:22:48,880 --> 01:22:50,280
Speaker 3: agree with you. That was the other part of it.

1604
01:22:50,360 --> 01:22:54,000
Speaker 4: So anyway, he been on this, which is why I

1605
01:22:54,000 --> 01:22:56,160
Speaker 4: don't trust him when he talks about this stuff.

1606
01:22:56,360 --> 01:23:01,000
Speaker 3: Contextual so much. That was twenty fourteen, all right, So

1607
01:23:01,439 --> 01:23:03,280
Speaker 3: but I like to give people the benefit of dabt

1608
01:23:03,320 --> 01:23:03,800
Speaker 3: a little bit.

1609
01:23:03,880 --> 01:23:08,680
Speaker 4: Okay, I don't like that.

1610
01:23:08,800 --> 01:23:10,600
Speaker 3: I don't like any of those songs, you know, I

1611
01:23:11,360 --> 01:23:12,360
Speaker 3: let that happened song.

1612
01:23:13,080 --> 01:23:16,000
Speaker 1: No, I'm saying, had he not said this function right now,

1613
01:23:16,680 --> 01:23:21,360
Speaker 1: if this, if something came up about Pharrell in twenty nineteen,

1614
01:23:21,880 --> 01:23:23,560
Speaker 1: I would have probably been like, well, hopefully he just

1615
01:23:23,680 --> 01:23:26,479
Speaker 1: changed his mind. I didn't know he said none of

1616
01:23:26,479 --> 01:23:29,800
Speaker 1: that ship. I did not know. But when people say

1617
01:23:29,840 --> 01:23:33,040
Speaker 1: function and then later on they're for the cause, I

1618
01:23:33,040 --> 01:23:35,719
Speaker 1: would like to be like, well, damn, they just changed

1619
01:23:35,720 --> 01:23:36,599
Speaker 1: their mind over time.

1620
01:23:36,960 --> 01:23:37,280
Speaker 3: Change.

1621
01:23:37,560 --> 01:23:40,719
Speaker 1: But if we're in twenty twenty five and you basically

1622
01:23:40,760 --> 01:23:42,920
Speaker 1: still have the same fucking mindset.

1623
01:23:42,520 --> 01:23:46,000
Speaker 4: You saying and again people give you pushback and you're like, oh,

1624
01:23:46,240 --> 01:23:49,479
Speaker 4: I ain't mean that, it was like, no, he changed

1625
01:23:49,840 --> 01:23:54,760
Speaker 4: ten years ago, changed since years later he realized he

1626
01:23:54,840 --> 01:23:57,840
Speaker 4: was wrong. That's why heated and then went back. Yeah,

1627
01:23:58,560 --> 01:24:02,000
Speaker 4: Black Ambition, I was fucked up. Maybe it is about color.

1628
01:24:04,080 --> 01:24:06,400
Speaker 3: You want a black of money, that's all it is. Yeo,

1629
01:24:06,640 --> 01:24:08,080
Speaker 3: that's that's that's funny.

1630
01:24:08,120 --> 01:24:11,280
Speaker 2: W Well their mission statement We'll move on to de state,

1631
01:24:11,360 --> 01:24:16,320
Speaker 2: which is just as crazy. Uh, he says on their website.

1632
01:24:16,840 --> 01:24:20,160
Speaker 2: Assets is not Black Ambition is a nonprofit initiative working

1633
01:24:20,200 --> 01:24:23,240
Speaker 2: and to close the opportunity and wealth gap through entrepreneurship.

1634
01:24:24,240 --> 01:24:26,599
Speaker 2: We invest Capital Resources and High Growth start US found

1635
01:24:26,640 --> 01:24:30,920
Speaker 2: about underrepresented entrepreneurs. We believe entrepreneurs historically left out of

1636
01:24:30,960 --> 01:24:34,240
Speaker 2: traditional investment funnels are building the companies of tomorrow.

1637
01:24:34,680 --> 01:24:36,360
Speaker 6: Oh so, he said, entrepreneurs.

1638
01:24:36,400 --> 01:24:38,960
Speaker 1: So is he more focused on being an entrepreneur not

1639
01:24:39,000 --> 01:24:42,160
Speaker 1: necessarily being a black creator or entrepreneurs.

1640
01:24:42,240 --> 01:24:45,280
Speaker 3: Yes, everything is about entrepreneurship. So anyway, it was the

1641
01:24:45,360 --> 01:24:46,839
Speaker 3: table's supposed to be building.

1642
01:24:47,040 --> 01:25:05,000
Speaker 7: Oh okay, yeah, uh through a couple of these because

1643
01:25:05,000 --> 01:25:05,920
Speaker 7: we're running out of time.

1644
01:25:06,240 --> 01:25:13,960
Speaker 3: Uh that's all good. Yeah uh Trump, they you know,

1645
01:25:14,040 --> 01:25:15,599
Speaker 3: they elon does it everybody.

1646
01:25:15,640 --> 01:25:17,240
Speaker 4: They just don't want to let the R word go,

1647
01:25:18,240 --> 01:25:22,559
Speaker 4: so they keep using it like yeah yeah, Trump called

1648
01:25:22,720 --> 01:25:28,120
Speaker 4: uh Waltz yeah, uh.

1649
01:25:27,200 --> 01:25:29,760
Speaker 2: The R word during a private call. It was lead

1650
01:25:29,840 --> 01:25:33,360
Speaker 2: to the press. And the consequence of that is one

1651
01:25:33,400 --> 01:25:37,719
Speaker 2: of the Republicans have really pulled, we pulled their support

1652
01:25:38,000 --> 01:25:44,960
Speaker 2: for Jerry because they have a.

1653
01:25:43,920 --> 01:25:48,280
Speaker 3: Developmentally challenged is that the word now down centrume. I

1654
01:25:48,280 --> 01:25:52,840
Speaker 3: think it's what it was like, no, this, this, this

1655
01:25:52,920 --> 01:25:53,400
Speaker 3: ain't cool.

1656
01:25:53,479 --> 01:25:58,280
Speaker 1: So but that's what it took. That's the part that

1657
01:25:58,320 --> 01:25:58,840
Speaker 1: makes me mad.

1658
01:25:59,200 --> 01:26:04,080
Speaker 4: Interesting in here quote, he said Trump has continued to

1659
01:26:04,160 --> 01:26:07,000
Speaker 4: do like he acknowledges that he said it before.

1660
01:26:08,160 --> 01:26:17,320
Speaker 3: But he's like, hey, maybe something changed. It took another

1661
01:26:17,560 --> 01:26:20,639
Speaker 3: useage other word. You're like, that's enough, but I even

1662
01:26:20,680 --> 01:26:21,800
Speaker 3: mean just the word.

1663
01:26:21,880 --> 01:26:26,360
Speaker 1: It took you being personally affected for you to draw along.

1664
01:26:26,479 --> 01:26:27,679
Speaker 3: It's like motherfuckers that are.

1665
01:26:27,560 --> 01:26:30,519
Speaker 1: Just like yeah, you know, yeah, bitches are on some

1666
01:26:30,640 --> 01:26:33,680
Speaker 1: bullshit and if that bitch got raped whatever whatever, and

1667
01:26:33,720 --> 01:26:36,480
Speaker 1: then it happens to your daughter, then it's like, oh, well, nah,

1668
01:26:36,640 --> 01:26:39,320
Speaker 1: that's fucked up and this needs to stop. Rape culture

1669
01:26:39,360 --> 01:26:42,240
Speaker 1: is an issue everybody. It's that type of shit. So

1670
01:26:42,320 --> 01:26:44,679
Speaker 1: it's like, wait a minute. All the racism was cool,

1671
01:26:45,120 --> 01:26:48,120
Speaker 1: all the antiqueer stuff was cool, but when he said

1672
01:26:48,160 --> 01:26:51,280
Speaker 1: something about something that personally affects you, then it's like, oh,

1673
01:26:51,280 --> 01:26:52,320
Speaker 1: I'm pulling on my support.

1674
01:26:52,840 --> 01:26:55,840
Speaker 6: So we weren't good enough. You know what I'm saying.

1675
01:26:55,840 --> 01:26:59,680
Speaker 1: Brown fucks weren't good enough. Venezuela's weren't good enough. But

1676
01:26:59,760 --> 01:27:01,880
Speaker 1: you're kid with down syndrome is good enough?

1677
01:27:02,240 --> 01:27:06,560
Speaker 3: Got it? Yeah? Do you think that's wrong? Do I

1678
01:27:06,560 --> 01:27:12,200
Speaker 3: think what's wrong? Which part like what you're fighting for,

1679
01:27:13,120 --> 01:27:15,880
Speaker 3: what you're fighting for. I'm not fighting for anything, but.

1680
01:27:17,560 --> 01:27:23,200
Speaker 2: That it took something to personally impact them for him.

1681
01:27:23,320 --> 01:27:25,280
Speaker 3: Yes, especially if you're a politician.

1682
01:27:25,439 --> 01:27:27,919
Speaker 1: I think that's a huge problem because if you're a politician,

1683
01:27:27,920 --> 01:27:31,240
Speaker 1: you're supposed to be fighting for the people, not your people, right,

1684
01:27:31,680 --> 01:27:33,280
Speaker 1: So yeah, I think that's a huge issue.

1685
01:27:33,320 --> 01:27:33,479
Speaker 3: Now.

1686
01:27:33,520 --> 01:27:36,480
Speaker 1: I think it's an issue even when we're talking about individuals.

1687
01:27:36,479 --> 01:27:37,559
Speaker 1: But I understand it more.

1688
01:27:38,840 --> 01:27:42,280
Speaker 4: I'm understanding psychology and human behavior. You're like, I get

1689
01:27:42,400 --> 01:27:45,240
Speaker 4: that people don't move unless they're personally inconvenience, But in

1690
01:27:45,280 --> 01:27:49,880
Speaker 4: a representative role, you're responsible to a host of people

1691
01:27:49,960 --> 01:27:52,200
Speaker 4: who are unconnected to the family.

1692
01:27:52,280 --> 01:27:56,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I feel that right. Cool.

1693
01:27:58,640 --> 01:28:00,160
Speaker 1: I do think you were in a car and you

1694
01:28:00,200 --> 01:28:01,640
Speaker 1: were on the highway to some bullshit, and.

1695
01:28:01,640 --> 01:28:08,880
Speaker 4: You just know I'm.

1696
01:28:06,320 --> 01:28:10,160
Speaker 3: Today the first text we run along, let me go

1697
01:28:12,360 --> 01:28:15,360
Speaker 3: the question to go apart. Yeah, I'm just curious.

1698
01:28:18,520 --> 01:28:20,760
Speaker 4: He explained it very clearly in a way the basic

1699
01:28:21,680 --> 01:28:27,960
Speaker 4: even you did, even though he articulated in a way

1700
01:28:28,000 --> 01:28:30,320
Speaker 4: that made it very very clear. Even though I fully

1701
01:28:30,400 --> 01:28:33,480
Speaker 4: understood what you said when you said as a politician,

1702
01:28:33,640 --> 01:28:38,679
Speaker 4: it shouldn't matter, but I was I was just asking

1703
01:28:38,680 --> 01:28:41,000
Speaker 4: about the you know, the psychology part of.

1704
01:28:42,560 --> 01:28:45,840
Speaker 3: Man. You know, he got he got the right, he

1705
01:28:45,960 --> 01:28:48,759
Speaker 3: got that right. You know, that's the part that matters.

1706
01:28:49,280 --> 01:28:52,320
Speaker 3: He got there, and see how long you're gonna stay that? Right?

1707
01:28:55,360 --> 01:28:57,880
Speaker 3: This reading thing about you else? First of all, who

1708
01:28:57,920 --> 01:28:58,800
Speaker 3: was listening to him?

1709
01:28:59,160 --> 01:29:01,519
Speaker 1: I really wanted to get you. I think I might

1710
01:29:01,560 --> 01:29:02,760
Speaker 1: have a different one, but I want to hear.

1711
01:29:09,160 --> 01:29:09,760
Speaker 3: Uh.

1712
01:29:09,880 --> 01:29:12,000
Speaker 2: He don't think that kids should learn how to read.

1713
01:29:12,040 --> 01:29:13,679
Speaker 2: He said, by the time to get to ninth grade,

1714
01:29:13,680 --> 01:29:15,680
Speaker 2: they should be learning how to start businesses.

1715
01:29:15,760 --> 01:29:16,960
Speaker 3: Oh back to for real.

1716
01:29:17,040 --> 01:29:19,800
Speaker 2: Huh uh, But they don't really need to learn how

1717
01:29:19,800 --> 01:29:23,479
Speaker 2: to read. When asked to choose between math and reading,

1718
01:29:23,520 --> 01:29:27,559
Speaker 2: he doubled down math. I mean, math is just as important,

1719
01:29:27,560 --> 01:29:30,680
Speaker 2: but you can't do the math if you don't know

1720
01:29:30,680 --> 01:29:33,519
Speaker 2: how to But never mind, But he said, you can

1721
01:29:33,560 --> 01:29:35,559
Speaker 2: listen to a book on YouTube. You can still obtain

1722
01:29:35,600 --> 01:29:38,040
Speaker 2: their information. You don't know, you don't have to know

1723
01:29:38,080 --> 01:29:40,759
Speaker 2: how to read. I believe common sense is better than everything.

1724
01:29:42,560 --> 01:29:45,519
Speaker 2: So yeah, he said, with AI and all this other stuff,

1725
01:29:45,520 --> 01:29:46,840
Speaker 2: you don't need that ship, bro, you don't need to

1726
01:29:46,880 --> 01:29:48,200
Speaker 2: know how to read. But you got to read what

1727
01:29:48,400 --> 01:29:49,360
Speaker 2: I said. But never mind.

1728
01:29:51,000 --> 01:29:55,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, So anyway, why are we telling kids that they

1729
01:29:55,800 --> 01:29:56,519
Speaker 4: don't need to know.

1730
01:29:56,800 --> 01:30:00,679
Speaker 5: They don't need to know how to read. This reminds

1731
01:30:00,680 --> 01:30:06,080
Speaker 5: me of a like how something like the rich people

1732
01:30:06,120 --> 01:30:07,839
Speaker 5: in the world. But yeah, I dropped out of school

1733
01:30:08,439 --> 01:30:12,479
Speaker 5: in fifth grade. Yeah, yeah, that seemed like that whole They.

1734
01:30:12,479 --> 01:30:15,120
Speaker 4: Know how to read though maybe some of the ship

1735
01:30:15,240 --> 01:30:20,280
Speaker 4: you see, Yeah, but trying to get that that book

1736
01:30:20,920 --> 01:30:23,800
Speaker 4: he hit people and clearly hit.

1737
01:30:23,760 --> 01:30:31,000
Speaker 3: Him books, cold hall books.

1738
01:30:32,240 --> 01:30:34,840
Speaker 5: That's yeah, that's the first thing I thought about, like, yeah,

1739
01:30:34,960 --> 01:30:37,200
Speaker 5: dropped out, I started the business.

1740
01:30:38,520 --> 01:30:41,200
Speaker 4: You know what I would say, y'all? Did y'all y'all

1741
01:30:41,200 --> 01:30:42,559
Speaker 4: watch the clip of him saying this.

1742
01:30:43,280 --> 01:30:45,439
Speaker 3: I didn't watch the clip. Yeah, yeah, I seen. I've

1743
01:30:45,439 --> 01:30:47,200
Speaker 3: seen a part, but I didn't see the whole thing.

1744
01:30:47,360 --> 01:30:50,839
Speaker 3: I will say. The thing that made me more upset

1745
01:30:51,080 --> 01:30:57,080
Speaker 3: than jewels it was the nigga sitting next to him, Like,

1746
01:30:57,200 --> 01:30:58,040
Speaker 3: oh my.

1747
01:30:58,000 --> 01:31:03,479
Speaker 4: Gosh, this nigga was co signing everything. People are like yeah,

1748
01:31:03,880 --> 01:31:07,800
Speaker 4: And I was sitting there like, Yo, this cooney ree.

1749
01:31:08,240 --> 01:31:10,200
Speaker 3: Is a boundary.

1750
01:31:10,280 --> 01:31:14,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, Like oh my God, Like jus look like, yo,

1751
01:31:14,080 --> 01:31:17,040
Speaker 4: I know what I'm saying, don't really, you know, I recognize,

1752
01:31:17,080 --> 01:31:19,040
Speaker 4: but this is how I feel. The dude next to

1753
01:31:19,120 --> 01:31:22,840
Speaker 4: him was like this, I've been waiting for somebody to

1754
01:31:23,000 --> 01:31:30,519
Speaker 4: say the real what I'm saying, read, I've been telling

1755
01:31:30,560 --> 01:31:32,360
Speaker 4: you you don't need know that.

1756
01:31:36,320 --> 01:31:38,000
Speaker 3: He didn't really say that, but yeah, he did say

1757
01:31:38,040 --> 01:31:38,880
Speaker 3: I've been telling y'all this.

1758
01:31:39,040 --> 01:31:41,240
Speaker 4: No, it was that's the He's the one who annoyed

1759
01:31:41,240 --> 01:31:42,360
Speaker 4: me the most out of that clip.

1760
01:31:42,560 --> 01:31:45,120
Speaker 3: But what you got here's my thing.

1761
01:31:46,920 --> 01:31:50,519
Speaker 1: Now this I would give Juel's the benefit that y'all

1762
01:31:50,560 --> 01:31:51,200
Speaker 1: were trying to get.

1763
01:31:51,200 --> 01:31:51,559
Speaker 3: For real.

1764
01:31:52,880 --> 01:31:55,360
Speaker 6: I think Juell's just misspoke.

1765
01:31:56,520 --> 01:31:57,559
Speaker 3: I don't think.

1766
01:31:57,600 --> 01:32:00,639
Speaker 1: When I was watching it, I don't think he really

1767
01:32:00,760 --> 01:32:12,519
Speaker 1: was trying to say that. He got caught up in

1768
01:32:12,560 --> 01:32:16,479
Speaker 1: the moment and said something dumb. I get what he

1769
01:32:16,560 --> 01:32:18,240
Speaker 1: was trying to say, like he needs to go speak

1770
01:32:18,240 --> 01:32:22,599
Speaker 1: to Van Lathan. He was, But the whole thing is

1771
01:32:23,280 --> 01:32:26,240
Speaker 1: there doesn't need to be a hierarchy of learning. He

1772
01:32:26,360 --> 01:32:28,879
Speaker 1: was being like, well, math is more important than reading

1773
01:32:29,200 --> 01:32:32,480
Speaker 1: because they got apps that will read you your contract.

1774
01:32:32,720 --> 01:32:35,840
Speaker 1: That is all stupid because you have calculators. We've been

1775
01:32:35,840 --> 01:32:38,839
Speaker 1: at a t I eighty five since fucking seventh grade.

1776
01:32:39,040 --> 01:32:40,479
Speaker 3: We have calculators for math.

1777
01:32:41,600 --> 01:32:44,600
Speaker 1: I think Jewel's got caught up, and I feel like

1778
01:32:45,479 --> 01:32:49,599
Speaker 1: after he was calmed down, maybe today or tomorrow, if

1779
01:32:49,600 --> 01:32:53,000
Speaker 1: you reapproached him with this discussion without a hype man,

1780
01:32:53,080 --> 01:32:55,000
Speaker 1: without a hype man next to him, let's doing all

1781
01:32:55,040 --> 01:32:58,080
Speaker 1: this shit. I think Jewell's might say, you know what,

1782
01:32:58,680 --> 01:33:00,479
Speaker 1: that's not what I mean. I said, some dumb ship,

1783
01:33:00,600 --> 01:33:04,439
Speaker 1: I fucked up. I think he was trying to say

1784
01:33:04,680 --> 01:33:09,200
Speaker 1: that it's that that that financial literacy should be in schools,

1785
01:33:09,439 --> 01:33:11,280
Speaker 1: and it should, it should, but.

1786
01:33:11,240 --> 01:33:14,200
Speaker 3: I think he went overboard by saying it's more important

1787
01:33:14,240 --> 01:33:15,520
Speaker 3: than read it.

1788
01:33:15,600 --> 01:33:18,000
Speaker 1: So I'm not going to put Duel's in the you

1789
01:33:18,080 --> 01:33:20,120
Speaker 1: are dumb mother, And I don't know anything about him.

1790
01:33:20,120 --> 01:33:22,679
Speaker 1: I've never listened to his music, I've never watched an interview,

1791
01:33:23,240 --> 01:33:25,800
Speaker 1: but just by what I saw, I'm not going to

1792
01:33:25,840 --> 01:33:30,720
Speaker 1: put him in that You're a dumb fuck back like

1793
01:33:31,760 --> 01:33:34,160
Speaker 1: back like cook cracked, I mean kind of that's kind

1794
01:33:34,200 --> 01:33:36,320
Speaker 1: of a dope bar whatever that is. But what he

1795
01:33:36,439 --> 01:33:39,960
Speaker 1: used to say, yeah, I mean to give him credit

1796
01:33:40,000 --> 01:33:46,479
Speaker 1: before subtracting it. He later in that interview, he has

1797
01:33:46,560 --> 01:33:52,759
Speaker 1: a really nice point where he talks about how how

1798
01:33:53,640 --> 01:33:59,040
Speaker 1: much regret he has about promoting Lean in his music,

1799
01:33:59,439 --> 01:34:01,200
Speaker 1: and he was talking about how like we didn't really

1800
01:34:01,280 --> 01:34:05,320
Speaker 1: understand what it was he said, first time I took

1801
01:34:05,320 --> 01:34:07,439
Speaker 1: a sip, I didn't even know it was Lean.

1802
01:34:07,520 --> 01:34:08,960
Speaker 3: I just thought, you know, I just didn't know.

1803
01:34:09,600 --> 01:34:13,559
Speaker 4: And I'm not a huge diplomat or Jewison and a fan,

1804
01:34:13,600 --> 01:34:16,240
Speaker 4: but plenty of people talked about like the toll it

1805
01:34:16,280 --> 01:34:18,960
Speaker 4: took on him, like he used to be one of

1806
01:34:18,960 --> 01:34:21,840
Speaker 4: the more promising up and comers out of the crew,

1807
01:34:21,960 --> 01:34:24,960
Speaker 4: like the young cat who was really and just it

1808
01:34:25,000 --> 01:34:28,280
Speaker 4: really damaged a lot of his career. And even like Cameron,

1809
01:34:28,560 --> 01:34:32,080
Speaker 4: like clips and stuff they'll talk about like yeah, they'd

1810
01:34:32,080 --> 01:34:34,360
Speaker 4: be like, yo, he he just he just.

1811
01:34:35,160 --> 01:34:36,120
Speaker 3: He would go to the club.

1812
01:34:36,160 --> 01:34:39,360
Speaker 4: He just wouldn't work, like which Lean doesn't make you

1813
01:34:39,640 --> 01:34:42,800
Speaker 4: be productive unless you're Wane, right, But like that type

1814
01:34:42,800 --> 01:34:45,840
Speaker 4: of thing. So anyway, that was said in that same interview,

1815
01:34:45,880 --> 01:34:47,760
Speaker 4: So I want to give that credit this thing, though

1816
01:34:50,760 --> 01:34:53,400
Speaker 4: I think what bothers me about it personally as someone

1817
01:34:53,400 --> 01:34:56,759
Speaker 4: who got an English degree, Humanity's.

1818
01:34:56,520 --> 01:34:58,040
Speaker 3: Right for a living, all of that stuff.

1819
01:34:58,160 --> 01:35:00,479
Speaker 4: Yeah, Like I think it bothers me be because I

1820
01:35:00,479 --> 01:35:03,800
Speaker 4: think there's a huge push to get rid of humanities

1821
01:35:04,000 --> 01:35:07,479
Speaker 4: in studies in general. Like you go to all of

1822
01:35:07,520 --> 01:35:10,960
Speaker 4: these schools and they are like like they are like, oh,

1823
01:35:11,040 --> 01:35:13,559
Speaker 4: what is liberal arts degree even mean anymore?

1824
01:35:14,000 --> 01:35:16,040
Speaker 3: They should all be business programs.

1825
01:35:16,040 --> 01:35:18,120
Speaker 4: They should all be da da da, they should all

1826
01:35:18,200 --> 01:35:20,760
Speaker 4: be stem it should be all these things. And my

1827
01:35:20,920 --> 01:35:24,880
Speaker 4: issue with that because people say reading is it's not

1828
01:35:25,120 --> 01:35:27,439
Speaker 4: just the act of reading. It is the act of reading,

1829
01:35:27,760 --> 01:35:31,040
Speaker 4: but it's not just that part of what you get.

1830
01:35:31,080 --> 01:35:33,680
Speaker 4: When you have a culture that is too bent on

1831
01:35:33,800 --> 01:35:38,040
Speaker 4: mathematics or too bent on science, is you lose ethics.

1832
01:35:38,680 --> 01:35:41,439
Speaker 4: Like these are the things that, like humanities makes you

1833
01:35:41,520 --> 01:35:44,519
Speaker 4: wrestle with, like why are we doing this? What's the

1834
01:35:44,640 --> 01:35:48,800
Speaker 4: conscience around this? Like reading other like historical works and

1835
01:35:48,800 --> 01:35:51,040
Speaker 4: all stuff like that. Like I'm not the person who's

1836
01:35:51,080 --> 01:35:54,360
Speaker 4: like everything you have to read in school is great,

1837
01:35:54,520 --> 01:35:56,640
Speaker 4: Like no, like all of that shit should be revisited,

1838
01:35:57,200 --> 01:36:00,400
Speaker 4: like updated. A bunch of that sh stuff is like

1839
01:36:01,560 --> 01:36:04,120
Speaker 4: white supremacist, you know, Like there's all types of things

1840
01:36:04,120 --> 01:36:07,960
Speaker 4: where like education should be improved upon, but the act

1841
01:36:08,000 --> 01:36:11,680
Speaker 4: of reading and the act of like like writing and

1842
01:36:11,800 --> 01:36:15,040
Speaker 4: learning how to express yourself, it's so vitally important, and

1843
01:36:15,080 --> 01:36:18,160
Speaker 4: it's being taught to not be by our culture.

1844
01:36:18,200 --> 01:36:19,400
Speaker 3: And that's what pisses me off about.

1845
01:36:19,439 --> 01:36:22,160
Speaker 2: Jules point with managers is basically the liro in the room,

1846
01:36:22,360 --> 01:36:24,360
Speaker 2: you know, just like would be the liro in the

1847
01:36:24,400 --> 01:36:25,800
Speaker 2: rooms like, yeah, no, that's that.

1848
01:36:25,880 --> 01:36:27,320
Speaker 3: You don't need to do that shit because that shits

1849
01:36:27,320 --> 01:36:27,800
Speaker 3: fucked up.

1850
01:36:27,840 --> 01:36:29,560
Speaker 4: But I have a feel again, I don't know, but

1851
01:36:29,600 --> 01:36:34,920
Speaker 4: you're right, the right are actively engaged in attacking liberal

1852
01:36:35,000 --> 01:36:35,800
Speaker 4: arts programs.

1853
01:36:36,880 --> 01:36:38,599
Speaker 6: I don't think that's what he was meaning to do.

1854
01:36:38,880 --> 01:36:39,479
Speaker 6: That's what I'm saying.

1855
01:36:39,520 --> 01:36:43,599
Speaker 1: I understand what you Yeah, yeah, I'm definitely shooting there

1856
01:36:43,800 --> 01:36:46,200
Speaker 1: because I have a feeling. And just by what I

1857
01:36:46,200 --> 01:36:49,000
Speaker 1: saw of the interview, I bet you if you said

1858
01:36:49,040 --> 01:36:51,200
Speaker 1: that stuff to him, he'd be like, yeah, yeah.

1859
01:36:51,120 --> 01:36:53,080
Speaker 3: I agree. I don't know if you would push you back.

1860
01:36:53,720 --> 01:36:56,360
Speaker 1: It just kind of just gave me the impression that

1861
01:36:56,479 --> 01:36:58,479
Speaker 1: he didn't all the way think through what he was saying.

1862
01:36:59,280 --> 01:37:04,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know if that guy beside him was

1863
01:37:04,960 --> 01:37:07,160
Speaker 3: hyping him up like that. They've had that conversation.

1864
01:37:07,200 --> 01:37:09,000
Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, no, the guy that was beside him

1865
01:37:09,080 --> 01:37:10,320
Speaker 1: was the podcast guy.

1866
01:37:10,400 --> 01:37:15,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, they like the hype man and the host have

1867
01:37:15,240 --> 01:37:18,320
Speaker 4: had the conversation. That's the impression we have, and the

1868
01:37:18,320 --> 01:37:21,400
Speaker 4: host is like, no, I'm saying the host might have

1869
01:37:21,479 --> 01:37:24,599
Speaker 4: been on the other side, like reading is much more

1870
01:37:24,600 --> 01:37:27,639
Speaker 4: important than words, or than mathematics or whatever.

1871
01:37:27,680 --> 01:37:28,200
Speaker 3: I don't know.

1872
01:37:28,520 --> 01:37:31,320
Speaker 4: But they just seemed the hype man was just like,

1873
01:37:31,520 --> 01:37:34,639
Speaker 4: we finally got somebody here who's on my side of this,

1874
01:37:35,479 --> 01:37:37,519
Speaker 4: and so that's that's the impression.

1875
01:37:38,120 --> 01:37:40,080
Speaker 1: That's why I was saying it was in the moment thing,

1876
01:37:40,320 --> 01:37:42,880
Speaker 1: because it felt like the dude hyping him up just

1877
01:37:42,880 --> 01:37:46,680
Speaker 1: made him say more stupid shit possible. I'm hoping that

1878
01:37:46,680 --> 01:37:49,000
Speaker 1: that's what it is. And just by the little bit

1879
01:37:49,040 --> 01:37:51,080
Speaker 1: I saw, that's the impression I got that he's not

1880
01:37:51,479 --> 01:37:53,519
Speaker 1: all the way a dumb fuck. He just said something

1881
01:37:53,560 --> 01:37:55,320
Speaker 1: real stupid.

1882
01:37:55,280 --> 01:37:59,040
Speaker 2: The hierarchy of I do agree with that part, and

1883
01:37:59,720 --> 01:38:04,599
Speaker 2: you know, mauth and reading whatever, But bro, you can't.

1884
01:38:04,400 --> 01:38:06,000
Speaker 3: Be telling these kids you don't know how to read.

1885
01:38:06,120 --> 01:38:09,080
Speaker 2: I'm just sorry, just like it's so like, it's just

1886
01:38:09,160 --> 01:38:11,960
Speaker 2: you just can't let that those words come out of

1887
01:38:12,000 --> 01:38:12,439
Speaker 2: your mouth.

1888
01:38:12,560 --> 01:38:15,519
Speaker 3: It's just insane to even say.

1889
01:38:15,920 --> 01:38:21,600
Speaker 2: But I at the same time, I understand where his

1890
01:38:21,760 --> 01:38:22,920
Speaker 2: logic is coming from.

1891
01:38:23,320 --> 01:38:25,680
Speaker 3: That that's the issue. It's just like, Bro, but you

1892
01:38:25,800 --> 01:38:27,720
Speaker 3: cannot advocate for that.

1893
01:38:27,840 --> 01:38:29,599
Speaker 1: If that's all he said, I'd be on your side.

1894
01:38:29,720 --> 01:38:33,240
Speaker 1: If all he said was man reading ain't important. These

1895
01:38:33,320 --> 01:38:35,519
Speaker 1: kids don't even know how to read. Man reading is lame.

1896
01:38:35,560 --> 01:38:37,120
Speaker 1: I don't give a fuck about reading. If that's all

1897
01:38:37,160 --> 01:38:39,000
Speaker 1: he said, I'd be like, oh yeah, you're fucking stupid.

1898
01:38:39,000 --> 01:38:39,519
Speaker 6: That's crazy.

1899
01:38:39,960 --> 01:38:41,240
Speaker 3: But it was the other ship.

1900
01:38:41,120 --> 01:38:42,840
Speaker 1: That was surrounding it where I was like, oh no,

1901
01:38:42,920 --> 01:38:44,360
Speaker 1: I see what you're trying to say.

1902
01:38:44,720 --> 01:38:45,759
Speaker 6: You need an interpreter.

1903
01:38:47,680 --> 01:38:50,280
Speaker 3: You got AI, you got audio books. You don't need

1904
01:38:50,400 --> 01:38:51,120
Speaker 3: even though.

1905
01:38:51,040 --> 01:38:55,240
Speaker 4: Reading, the act of reading helps you process it differently

1906
01:38:55,280 --> 01:38:56,160
Speaker 4: than listening to it.

1907
01:38:56,320 --> 01:38:58,400
Speaker 1: Don't you remember we had that conversation. I do put

1908
01:38:58,439 --> 01:39:00,920
Speaker 1: them out like, well with somebody else says name Spike. No,

1909
01:39:00,960 --> 01:39:01,519
Speaker 1: it wasn't Spike.

1910
01:39:01,720 --> 01:39:02,040
Speaker 3: We had a.

1911
01:39:02,040 --> 01:39:05,240
Speaker 1: Conversation with somebody and the crew that was I was like,

1912
01:39:05,360 --> 01:39:06,960
Speaker 1: do you read and he was, oh, yeah, I read

1913
01:39:06,960 --> 01:39:10,160
Speaker 1: all the time, and it was audio books. But it

1914
01:39:10,200 --> 01:39:11,760
Speaker 1: turns out that he had not actually read.

1915
01:39:11,920 --> 01:39:19,600
Speaker 3: I know you're talking about. I'm just ship man like,

1916
01:39:19,680 --> 01:39:25,600
Speaker 3: oh yeah, it's not fine. I thought we had the

1917
01:39:25,760 --> 01:39:28,000
Speaker 3: conversation on air. We did, but I didn't want.

1918
01:39:27,840 --> 01:39:29,479
Speaker 1: People to be like, oh, Mike's bringing up old ship

1919
01:39:29,479 --> 01:39:31,160
Speaker 1: and called fee for stupid. I'm not calling fee for stupid.

1920
01:39:31,800 --> 01:39:35,200
Speaker 1: Stupid feels definitely not stupid. My whole point is, don't

1921
01:39:35,240 --> 01:39:39,960
Speaker 1: make that face. Don't make that face. With a straight face,

1922
01:39:40,000 --> 01:39:45,360
Speaker 1: man say not stupid. Why you laughing? Stop stop it man,

1923
01:39:45,920 --> 01:39:46,280
Speaker 1: don't be.

1924
01:39:48,040 --> 01:39:50,960
Speaker 3: Anyway. My whole point was to to what you were.

1925
01:39:50,840 --> 01:39:53,479
Speaker 1: Saying is when he was saying that, that means that

1926
01:39:53,640 --> 01:39:58,160
Speaker 1: the conversation is clearly being had where it's like actual

1927
01:39:58,439 --> 01:40:03,479
Speaker 1: reading and pros assessing the words is not what people

1928
01:40:03,600 --> 01:40:04,679
Speaker 1: are see.

1929
01:40:04,720 --> 01:40:07,120
Speaker 3: Now you made me kind of lose the point.

1930
01:40:07,360 --> 01:40:08,960
Speaker 6: I was not trying to clown on Fifo.

1931
01:40:09,160 --> 01:40:10,639
Speaker 3: No, take it out.

1932
01:40:10,760 --> 01:40:13,080
Speaker 4: It's also like look it out. But it's also like

1933
01:40:13,120 --> 01:40:14,400
Speaker 4: what are you reading though.

1934
01:40:15,800 --> 01:40:17,559
Speaker 3: Like that the Thirty Laws of Power?

1935
01:40:18,200 --> 01:40:21,200
Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, if you if you're hold read sun

1936
01:40:21,320 --> 01:40:24,160
Speaker 5: Zou or the Ward I read. Yeah, but it's not

1937
01:40:24,200 --> 01:40:26,400
Speaker 5: that look like you're sitting there like oh yeah, you know,

1938
01:40:26,640 --> 01:40:29,000
Speaker 5: it is what it is. It's like you could be like, oh,

1939
01:40:29,040 --> 01:40:31,960
Speaker 5: I'm a you know, I watched films. I'm a Cento file.

1940
01:40:32,000 --> 01:40:34,280
Speaker 5: It's like, oh, I just watched Tyler Perry.

1941
01:40:34,320 --> 01:40:40,240
Speaker 1: Like yeah, but but it's like I don't think that

1942
01:40:40,720 --> 01:40:43,040
Speaker 1: listening to an audiobook, I don't think you process the

1943
01:40:43,040 --> 01:40:45,799
Speaker 1: information the same at least, but I can't speak for Fifo.

1944
01:40:46,080 --> 01:40:48,600
Speaker 1: That might be the perfect way for it is a difference.

1945
01:40:48,880 --> 01:40:49,880
Speaker 3: It is a different.

1946
01:40:50,080 --> 01:40:51,400
Speaker 1: I can't do it that way.

1947
01:40:51,320 --> 01:40:51,519
Speaker 3: You know.

1948
01:40:51,800 --> 01:40:53,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I I've listened to a few and

1949
01:40:54,080 --> 01:40:56,000
Speaker 2: but I can. But I listen to a lot of podcasts,

1950
01:40:56,000 --> 01:40:58,519
Speaker 2: so I can listen to process information like that. Sure,

1951
01:40:58,800 --> 01:41:00,840
Speaker 2: But if but if I go back and read it,

1952
01:41:00,880 --> 01:41:04,839
Speaker 2: I'm able to also think about it in another way exactly.

1953
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Speaker 4: Also, it's how you like Honestly, these are all like

1954
01:41:08,720 --> 01:41:13,080
Speaker 4: scientific things, like coming across a word that you are

1955
01:41:13,200 --> 01:41:16,559
Speaker 4: looking at and don't know how to pronounce all the time,

1956
01:41:16,640 --> 01:41:18,760
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying, right, But like there's an

1957
01:41:18,800 --> 01:41:22,000
Speaker 4: act of like learning these words that you don't get audio,

1958
01:41:22,120 --> 01:41:24,160
Speaker 4: like if someone tells you there's things that people.

1959
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Speaker 3: Say that I'm like, oh, I actually don't know how

1960
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Speaker 3: to spell that word. You know what I'm saying.

1961
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Speaker 4: But but like the act of like tactile, like I'm

1962
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Speaker 4: going to read this line, I'm going to I'm gonna

1963
01:41:33,160 --> 01:41:35,679
Speaker 4: figure all this stuff out. All of these other things

1964
01:41:35,680 --> 01:41:37,599
Speaker 4: are happening while you're reading, and I just think that

1965
01:41:37,600 --> 01:41:39,080
Speaker 4: that's that's super important.

1966
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Speaker 3: I agree. Would you call sur like John good anyway?

1967
01:41:56,920 --> 01:41:59,519
Speaker 3: I don't know. Hopefully he realizes what he said was dumb.

1968
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Speaker 3: He hasn't yet.

1969
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Speaker 4: I don't know, yeah, yeah, I don't know, but he's

1970
01:42:07,000 --> 01:42:08,640
Speaker 4: not the type that, from what I could tell, that

1971
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Speaker 4: would go to and be like, hey, come.

1972
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Speaker 3: On, correct, no, that's what I said. We didn't get

1973
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Speaker 3: a chance to get to these.

1974
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Speaker 2: But I didn't think this was really that important outside

1975
01:42:18,560 --> 01:42:21,040
Speaker 2: of the fact that you know, Marjorie Taylor Green retiring

1976
01:42:21,040 --> 01:42:24,639
Speaker 2: and somebody else retiring makes them lose numbers.

1977
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Speaker 1: I meant to text you and to take it out

1978
01:42:26,479 --> 01:42:27,480
Speaker 1: because it happened.

1979
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Speaker 3: Like yeah, I think so.

1980
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Speaker 4: I think they just use Marjorie Taylor Green to get

1981
01:42:32,360 --> 01:42:34,120
Speaker 4: people to click on the link because it was about

1982
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Speaker 4: something else. I see, yeah, it was about something else.

1983
01:42:36,520 --> 01:42:39,439
Speaker 4: For it though gave people a raise. I thought that

1984
01:42:39,479 --> 01:42:44,720
Speaker 4: was dope. Uh the it consultant posed with a gun

1985
01:42:44,760 --> 01:42:51,320
Speaker 4: again fired Okay, he said it was a joke, but he.

1986
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Speaker 6: Put it on LinkedIn, Like come on, yeah, why did

1987
01:42:53,000 --> 01:42:53,759
Speaker 6: you put it on link.

1988
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Speaker 3: That's what I said.

1989
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Speaker 5: But if I'm not mistaken, he's in Britain and he

1990
01:43:00,800 --> 01:43:04,400
Speaker 5: did this in Florida, like he was on vacation right

1991
01:43:05,240 --> 01:43:11,559
Speaker 5: old time, posted it on LinkedIn, and so then in

1992
01:43:11,560 --> 01:43:15,040
Speaker 5: in the UK they came to him like yo, no, no,

1993
01:43:15,479 --> 01:43:18,120
Speaker 5: and he's like, actually, this was done in the stage

1994
01:43:18,160 --> 01:43:20,280
Speaker 5: that they're like, Noah, no, it don't matter.

1995
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Speaker 3: It don't matter.

1996
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and then this rest of tests the story too,

1997
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Speaker 2: which I think is a complete fake ship.

1998
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Speaker 3: I read it. I watched three different videos.

1999
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Speaker 1: I still do not understand what happens, so you don't

2000
01:43:33,200 --> 01:43:34,880
Speaker 1: have to explain it because I don't really care that much.

2001
01:43:35,360 --> 01:43:37,880
Speaker 2: But I asked my wife about it, and it hasn't

2002
01:43:37,880 --> 01:43:40,439
Speaker 2: came across her timeline, so I'm like, Okay, then I

2003
01:43:40,479 --> 01:43:42,280
Speaker 2: don't know if this is a real deal or not.

2004
01:43:43,320 --> 01:43:45,439
Speaker 2: But yeah, man, but yeah, those are some other ones

2005
01:43:45,479 --> 01:43:46,960
Speaker 2: that we didn't get a chance to get to because

2006
01:43:47,000 --> 01:43:49,200
Speaker 2: we have a love to get to doing about a

2007
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Speaker 2: minute or two.

2008
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Speaker 3: Hey, man, appreciate you coming absolutely for having me.

2009
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Speaker 4: Where can they find you real quick? I guess I

2010
01:43:58,600 --> 01:44:01,040
Speaker 4: don't really be on there doing nothing, but uh but

2011
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Speaker 4: I tried to just because a lot of demarcations that

2012
01:44:06,400 --> 01:44:10,880
Speaker 4: it's that Elon ship. But but Instagram A don bean

2013
01:44:11,000 --> 01:44:13,639
Speaker 4: ady A N B A n. If you're in Atlanta,

2014
01:44:13,720 --> 01:44:17,000
Speaker 4: pull up to the good Night, which is a showcase

2015
01:44:17,320 --> 01:44:20,719
Speaker 4: uh spoken word music comedy. It's a free show first

2016
01:44:20,720 --> 01:44:23,800
Speaker 4: Friday of each month at the Techo in Grant Park,

2017
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Speaker 4: So The next one is December fourth, so this is

2018
01:44:27,080 --> 01:44:28,799
Speaker 4: coming up Friday, December fifth.

2019
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Speaker 3: It is coming up Friday. Actually, a couple of our

2020
01:44:31,080 --> 01:44:31,840
Speaker 3: fans come through that.

2021
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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a good time. Mike's come through before. Obviously

2022
01:44:36,200 --> 01:44:40,599
Speaker 4: have Modespedia film. So yeah, all the things cool music

2023
01:44:40,640 --> 01:44:45,599
Speaker 4: coming to so okay, yeah yeah yeah, all right, okay, gang.

2024
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Speaker 2: People coming through Broy. Well, that's gonna do it for us.

2025
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Speaker 2: We'll cut you guys next time we at p

2026
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Speaker 1: Hey