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Speaker 1: Live from Vall Hartlier and the Crossroads of America.

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Speaker 2: It's Tony Katz today.

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Speaker 3: No, Barack cussaid Obama is the ringleader. Hillary Clinton was.

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Speaker 4: Right there with him, and so was sleeping Joe Buden,

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Speaker 4: and so were the rest of them, call me Clapper,

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Speaker 4: the whole group. And they tried to rig an election,

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Speaker 4: and they got caught. And then they did rig the

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Speaker 4: election in twenty twenty. And then because I knew I

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Speaker 4: won that election by a lot, I did it a

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Speaker 4: third time and I won in a landslide.

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Speaker 5: Every swing state won the popular vote.

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Speaker 3: But I won that all the same way in twenty twenty.

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Speaker 3: And look at the damn was cost real damage that

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Speaker 3: was indeed caused. And I don't know why people are

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Speaker 3: shocked by President Trump saying this. What are you supposed

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Speaker 3: to say about somebody who orchestrated an attack on the

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Speaker 3: duly elected president of the United States because they didn't

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Speaker 3: like the fact that they won. That's what Barack Obama did.

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Speaker 3: That's what James Comy did. That's what James Clapper did.

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Speaker 3: That's that's what John Brennan did. This isn't a debate.

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Speaker 3: This is what happened. This is who they are Tony Katz,

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Speaker 3: Tony Kats today, good to be with you. People are

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Speaker 3: shocked and stunned. And who does the president think he

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Speaker 3: is going after a former president of the United States? Well,

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Speaker 3: that is just flat out of seeing. And on CNN

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Speaker 3: they go well crazy related the votes right now, they

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Speaker 3: didn't even influence votes. They've had intentions of why do

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Speaker 3: we talk about this? This is not the issue here.

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Speaker 6: The president, President Obama said that Russia did not manipulate it.

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Speaker 3: We should note that because every liberal in America said

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Speaker 3: that was the.

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Speaker 6: K everything not to talk about the fact that the

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Speaker 6: president of the United States, the current president of the

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Speaker 6: United States, just accused a former president of treason and

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Speaker 6: suggested a prosecution of that former president with no evidence.

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Speaker 3: That is the problem. You can call it down. I'm

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Speaker 3: not going to call down. I don't think to talk

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Speaker 3: about that instead of talking about Obama.

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Speaker 6: Because Obama just un here's a Democrat mythology.

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Speaker 3: What plice. Let's not talk about this. I don't want

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Speaker 3: to talk about your distrections.

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Speaker 7: The problem is.

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Speaker 3: It's not a distraction Keith boy kid, it's you not

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Speaker 3: being able to have any control of yourself. He was right.

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Speaker 3: You need to calm down. May I suggest a little

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Speaker 3: bit of you who I find that to be very soothing.

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Speaker 3: Why in the world are we talking about Barack Obama?

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Speaker 3: How dare you accuse as a former president? I'm sorry?

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Speaker 3: Did we all or did we all not live through

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Speaker 3: four years of Donald Trump being accused of everything? You

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Speaker 3: had no issue with it? Keith, you had no problem

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Speaker 3: with it, Keith, you were fine with it. Keith, you

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Speaker 3: supported it. Keith, if I did a five minute search

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Speaker 3: on Google, I would find everything. Hell, I don't even

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Speaker 3: need Google. All I need is bing. You know what?

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Speaker 3: You give me three minutes with ask Jeeves and I'll

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Speaker 3: find everything you ever not said about this subject, You

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Speaker 3: ever not said, you ever did not say. I think

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Speaker 3: you get my point. He didn't do anything, and now

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Speaker 3: you're just angry and upset. Barack Obama's a bad guy.

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Speaker 3: What's so wrong with saying so what? He gets some

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Speaker 3: kind of special protection, he's some special flower. He can't

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Speaker 3: be addressed for the absolutely horrific political human being he is.

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Speaker 3: I don't know how he is his ohusband, I don't

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Speaker 3: know how he is as a father. I don't care.

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Speaker 3: I only hope he's good in both regards, but as

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Speaker 3: a president, as a political figure, as a mind, he's horrific.

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Speaker 3: And yes, this is what they engaged in. And yes

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Speaker 3: he is no better nor no worse. If we're going

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Speaker 3: to say he's somebody we can't talk about, of course

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Speaker 3: we can, just like anybody else, and past presidents of

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Speaker 3: former presidents who have engaged in illicit activities, violating their

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Speaker 3: oath of office and attacking the citizenry by preventing them

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Speaker 3: from having their duly elected president of the United States

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Speaker 3: be able to do the job that a duly elected

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Speaker 3: president of the United States can do. You bet we

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Speaker 3: should look at them as with eyes that are clearly

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Speaker 3: focused on whether or not they're treason iss one thousand percent.

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Speaker 3: And for you to sit there and be like, how

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Speaker 3: dare you and why are you focused on this? Maybe

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Speaker 3: it's time for this whole CNN panel, all these progressives

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Speaker 3: to grow up. Don't you know you're wrong? And don't

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Speaker 3: you know we won't fall for you anymore? This must

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Speaker 3: be the most upsetting part. You can't threaten, you can't cajole,

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Speaker 3: you can't attack, you can't vilify. Honey, we've been through

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Speaker 3: this and we don't give a damn. Barack Obama worked

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Speaker 3: with the FBI, the CIA, the Director of National Intelligence

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Speaker 3: in the Attorney General to manipulate data to put out

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Speaker 3: a story that Trump was working with the Russians, that

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Speaker 3: the Russians were involved, I should say, in trying to

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Speaker 3: manipulate the election. They made it up. Now, do I

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Speaker 3: think that the Russians work aggressively to try and mess

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Speaker 3: with elections. I absolutely believe they do that. One thousand percent.

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Speaker 3: I believe they do that. But the story here is

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Speaker 3: quite clear that there was nothing that showed the Russians

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Speaker 3: were trying to interfere with the election in twenty sixteen

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Speaker 3: that we would not have noticed, We would have seen it,

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Speaker 3: we would enable to do something about it. Wasn't there.

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Speaker 3: If you ask me if Barack Obama is a criminal,

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Speaker 3: I say yes. If you want to say innocent, will

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Speaker 3: proven guilty, you can say that too. But I say

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Speaker 3: charge him and Brennan and Komy and Clapper and these elitists.

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Speaker 3: Oh how pious they think they are. They are the

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Speaker 3: lowest of the low, They are the scummiest of the scum.

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Speaker 3: And my suggestion is charge them. Say the words I

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Speaker 3: think these guys are guilty of treason, charge them, put

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Speaker 3: together the case, and charge them. That is the accurate

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Speaker 3: thing to do. That is the right thing to do.

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Speaker 3: You'll notice how this differs from the political left, because

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Speaker 3: the political left says, hey, I disagree with Donald Trump.

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Speaker 3: Kill him. Do you see the difference. I said, charge him.

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Speaker 3: I didn't say, don't give him a lawyer. He gets

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Speaker 3: a lawyer. I said innocent until proven guilty. I didn't

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Speaker 3: say he's guilty because I decided so, and all of

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Speaker 3: a sudden, I'm Judge Dredd, Go hang the guy. No

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Speaker 3: part of that happened, I said, charge him. The left

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Speaker 3: is outraged that you would even question him. Why Barack

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Speaker 3: Obama special? The guy who threw Joe Biden out of

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Speaker 3: office and then couldn't get Kamala Harris over the finish

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Speaker 3: line and absolutely damaged his reputation to the point that

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Speaker 3: he may not necessarily be welcome in democratic politics anymore.

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Speaker 3: He's on the sideline. Him and that absolute fool Nancy Pelosi,

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Speaker 3: who turned herself into a quasi backbencher with this move

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Speaker 3: to push Biden out. I'll talk about these people all

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Speaker 3: I damn well want well, you think they're special, Sure,

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Speaker 3: you think they're sacred, come now, Come now. But Donald

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Speaker 3: Trump is right to have this conversation and is right

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Speaker 3: in saying what he is saying that these people are

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Speaker 3: a danger to the rest of us. Because they are

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Speaker 3: these people engaged in activities that are a danger to

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Speaker 3: the nation, we should say so, we should be aggressive

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Speaker 3: about it. And there's more and more information out this

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Speaker 3: about the Steele dossier, which of course was all bunk

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Speaker 3: about Trump and Russia and and what was that the

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Speaker 3: hookers and the whole nonsense, The whole Steele dossier was bunk.

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Speaker 3: Asking whether or not the sub sources regarding the Steele dossier,

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Speaker 3: Christopher Steele, whether or not they were credible. I'm not

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Speaker 3: comfortable that we don't know how this got to steal.

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Speaker 3: This was some of the notes regarding John Brennan of

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Speaker 3: the CIA. The Steele dossier failed to meet basic standards,

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Speaker 3: to which John Brennan said, yeah, but doesn't it ring true?

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Speaker 3: What do you mean does it ring true? More we

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Speaker 3: find out, the more we learn, the more we see,

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Speaker 3: the more you realize how dangerous progressives are when they

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Speaker 3: have power. They'll tell you that Trump is a threat

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Speaker 3: to democracy. Look at this, what's the threat that Trump

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Speaker 3: is going to utilize the law already on the books

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Speaker 3: to remove a legal immigrants, or that progressives so desperate

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Speaker 3: for power, will lie about Russians interfering an election to

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Speaker 3: destroy a presidency which one is more authoritarian. Case rested.

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Speaker 3: And Keith Poinking of CNN is wrong, and Habby Philip

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Speaker 3: with CNN is wrong. And Chris Hayes at MSNBC and

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Speaker 3: Rachel Maddow and Nicole Waus they're all wrong. At Sonny

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Speaker 8: They're all wrong.

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Speaker 3: They're all wrong. They'll tell you Trump is the authoritarian

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Speaker 3: while the authoritarians walk free. As we have often discussed,

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Speaker 3: they will accuse you of the thing that they are doing.

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Speaker 3: And sadly, our only recourse is November third, twenty twenty

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Speaker 3: sixth Ah, don't get me wrong. We should charge these

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Speaker 3: people with crimes and there should be a trial, absolutely

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Speaker 3: not a show trial, an actual trial. These people should

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Speaker 3: be put on trial. The only thing we can do

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Speaker 3: is ensure they don't win again. They can't be anywhere

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Speaker 3: near power. The only thing we can do is at

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Speaker 3: anytime these fool's mouth off on cable news is to

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Speaker 3: mock them roundly. It's the only thing we could do

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Speaker 3: was there was a piece that I had from Charlemagne,

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Speaker 3: as if he's somebody who is providing an insight, not

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Speaker 3: saying it's a bad radio host. I have no idea,

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Speaker 3: but the idea that he has insight is laughable. A

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Speaker 3: point of view that is valuable. And he's filling in

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Speaker 3: on one of the on one of the late night

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Speaker 3: and charges, and we all know better than that that

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Speaker 3: the people that they are pointing at is the people,

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Speaker 3: is them really pointing at themselves. You can't let these

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Speaker 3: and that's where I leave it. I'm Tony Katz. This

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Speaker 3: is Tony Katz Today. There is a lot going on.

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Speaker 3: We've also got the White House Press briefing happening. We've

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Speaker 3: got trade deals. I'm gonna get to the to the

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Speaker 3: trade deals. But it got kind of brushed over, I

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Speaker 3: think with everything else happening, that Alina Habba got forced

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Speaker 3: out as the interrum Attorney General in New Jersey and

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Speaker 3: Pam Bondi, the Attorney General's like, whooa, whoa, whoa, whoa

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Speaker 3: hold up, Tony Katz, Tony Kats today, good to be

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Speaker 3: with you. So Alena Habba was Trump's lawyer. Remember all

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Speaker 3: the all the indictments that turned into nothing because they

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Speaker 3: got the rico predicate that it was happening in Georgia

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Speaker 3: until you realize that Fannie Willis the DA couldn't keep

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Speaker 3: it in her pants. She had a lover by the

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Speaker 3: name of it, was it Nathan Wade, And it turns

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Speaker 3: out that he was paying for trips and or she

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Speaker 3: That was very much kickback situation. While she had hired

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Speaker 3: him to get it, to be a prosecutor be a

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Speaker 3: lawyer on the team going after Trump. Anyway, not the story.

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Speaker 3: It turns out that they were lovers and they were

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Speaker 3: working together. The working together lovers, It's a story as

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Speaker 3: old as time. And then, of course the case fell

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Speaker 3: her pants and secondly was really bad at her job.

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Speaker 3: Still waiting for any of those charges to produce any

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Speaker 3: level of fruit. But the so Elena Habo was with

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Speaker 3: Trump and defending him in a bunch of these things,

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Speaker 3: and she got tapped to be the attorney general in

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Speaker 3: New Jersey the interim I shouldn't say the attorney general.

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Speaker 3: I'm sorry, I said, attorney General. My mistake, us attorney

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Speaker 3: I apologized there. And what had happened was that he

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Speaker 3: Trump was not willing to pull her nomination. But an

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Speaker 3: interim term only lasts for one hundred and twenty days,

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Speaker 9: Why haven't Republicans released the Epstein files to the American people?

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Speaker 3: along with a host of others. When you don't have

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Speaker 3: much you can do, when you don't have much going

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Speaker 3: for you, when you don't have a policy that will

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Speaker 3: work for you, you kind of, you know, you kind of

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Speaker 3: do anything. This is all they have. This is all

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Speaker 3: that the left has, hope that they can turn this

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Speaker 3: into more and more of an issue. They don't even

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Speaker 3: understand that the moment has passed. What is the argument

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Speaker 3: we make here? All the time? The political left always

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Speaker 3: overplays their hand, always on every subject. It is one

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Speaker 3: thing to say we want the release of the files.

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Speaker 3: It's another thing to say Republicans are protecting pedophiles when

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Speaker 3: the Democratic Party believes that children can be mutilated and

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Speaker 3: it's okay boys can be girls, and it's fine. Girls

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Speaker 3: should have to compete against boys in sports, change with

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Speaker 3: them in the locker rooms, and just lay back and

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Speaker 3: take it. That's what Akim Jeffries thinks. Hakim Jeffries thinks

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Speaker 3: your fifteen year old daughter should just lay back and

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Speaker 3: take it from a man. That's a pretty rude thing

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Speaker 3: to say, if you ask me. But I'm utilizing the

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Speaker 3: Hikeem Jefferies playbook and this is how it works. My god,

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Speaker 3: this gets very ugly, and it gets very ugly when

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Speaker 3: Trump is Is Trump calling in right here to this

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Speaker 3: thing on? Was he calling in to CNN? Listen?

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Speaker 10: When you get all this and all of this, I

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Speaker 10: just want to emphasize, right, has not been seen before.

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Speaker 8: So you actually called President Trump?

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Speaker 3: You called him.

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Speaker 8: Directly to ask him about this.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, we were not on the phone very long. I

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Speaker 11: think our call is about thirty seconds or so. But

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Speaker 11: when I asked him about the wedding photo, he said

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Speaker 11: he sort of paused for a second and then said,

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Speaker 11: you've got to be kidding me before calling CNN fake

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Speaker 11: news and then hanging up on me.

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Speaker 12: Now in a statement, Okay, that was Andrew Kazinski. I believe, Yeah,

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Speaker 12: he hung up on you. I thought he had hung

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Speaker 12: up on CNN though was playing on CNN. He doesn't

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Speaker 12: have to be a part of that, all this insanity,

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Speaker 12: this lie from the wall sheet journey has to be

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Speaker 12: part of any of it at all. That's all about

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Speaker 12: the destruction stuff. He's been through that We've been through that.

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Speaker 12: That's why we won't get moved by it.

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Speaker 3: The fact that we want the data doesn't change where

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Speaker 3: we are in support of the border, the Middle East,

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Speaker 3: the economy, a host of things that a team Jefferies

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Speaker 3: can't offer anything on. So I hope I answered the question, Matt,

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Speaker 3: I really hope I did. It's not bad that Democrats

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Speaker 3: want the files. Their reason for it has nothing to

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Speaker 3: do with justice. It all has to do with how

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Speaker 3: they can tear people down, because that's the only thing

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Speaker 3: they care about. This is Tony Katz today, McLaughlin Pole

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Speaker 3: or is it McLoughlin. I don't know. Seventy seven percent

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Speaker 3: of those Pole deposed amnesty, and fifty six percent say

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Speaker 3: to port every illegal alien out. People are gonna say, Tony.

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Speaker 3: This was a poll that was commissioned by Tea Party

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Speaker 3: Patriots Action, and I think the first thing to ask

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Speaker 3: yourself is there's still a Tea Party Patriots That group

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Speaker 3: is still around. Yeah, Jenny Beth Martin is still around.

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Speaker 3: What do you know about that? What do you know

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Speaker 3: about that? Do I think that the Pole is accurate? Yes?

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Speaker 3: If you told me the number wasn't seventy seven percent,

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Speaker 3: It was seventy three percent. If you told me who

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Speaker 3: opposed am and see if you told me it wasn't

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Speaker 3: fifty six percent who say to port every illegal, but

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Speaker 3: fifty four percent. I would say to you, we're all

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Speaker 3: in the same conversation here that this is not a

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Speaker 3: fifty to fifty subject. This is greater than that that

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Speaker 3: we have in America, people who at very much their

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Speaker 3: core oppose the idea wholeheartedly of cheaters winning and people

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Speaker 3: who break the law to get in the country cheated. Now,

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Speaker 3: maybe you could argue we should have an easier test,

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Speaker 3: which would be a conversation regarding how we bring about

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Speaker 3: legal immigration. That would at least be a discussion. But

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Speaker 3: when you come here illegally and you're allowed to stay

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Speaker 3: for years, you are you're saying you don't even want

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Speaker 3: to take the test, And that's what people oppose. In

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Speaker 3: the end, this is what people oppose. And I and

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Speaker 3: and this is true and accurate across as I think,

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Speaker 3: across the political spectrum. It's one of those things that

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Speaker 3: is ingrained in us. And I would almost go so

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Speaker 3: far as to say this is you know, we talk

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Speaker 3: about nature and Nature's law. This is kind of it, right,

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Speaker 3: We don't believe that you should get something for nothing.

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Speaker 3: We don't believe that cheaters should win. Cheaters never win,

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Speaker 3: and winners never cheat. Doesn't matter where you come from,

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Speaker 3: we still think it true. So yeah, I think that

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Speaker 3: polling is accurate, and I think Trump should stay on

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Speaker 3: this subject and keep winning. Press free thing is coming.

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Speaker 3: Let's hear what Caroline Levitt has to say. This is

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Speaker 3: Tony Cats Today. Find everything at Tony CAATs dot com.

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Speaker 1: Live from Daull Hartbeiner and the Crossroads of America.

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Speaker 2: It's Tony Kats Today.

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Speaker 3: And there they are, all the little children gathered for

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Speaker 3: the White House Press Briefing. Tony Kats, Tony Kats Today.

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Speaker 3: Good to be with you. If you don't get the

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Speaker 3: live stream over there at YouTube Tony Katz, Facebook, Tony

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Speaker 3: Kats Radio, ex Twitter, Tony Katz. It's there for you.

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Speaker 3: It's there for you. You check it out for yourself and

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Speaker 3: come join in and be a part of it all.

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Speaker 3: There's a lot for the press briefing. You've got the

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Speaker 3: meeting with the leader of the Philippines regarding a trade deal.

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Speaker 3: You've got the meeting with Japan regarding a trade deal.

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Speaker 3: You know you're gonna get answer, asked Epstein, Oh questions,

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Speaker 3: you've got Iran saying, you know what, we don't care

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Speaker 3: about these bombings of Natan's and Esfahan and Fordell. We're

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Speaker 3: gonna keep working towards nuclear material. We have to have it,

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Speaker 3: just so you know what these people are all about.

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Speaker 3: And I don't know if there's going to be a

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Speaker 3: conversation here about the drews in Syria and the attacks

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Speaker 3: from the Bedowins and of Syrian military. We have brought

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Speaker 3: this up in pieces. This is the opportunity for Syria

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Speaker 3: has been great. And yes, this group that took over

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Speaker 3: and pushed out Ashar al Assad is an offshoot of

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Speaker 3: al Qaeda. And you're like, why in the world would

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Speaker 3: I ever trust But things were moving in all the

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Speaker 3: right directions, and sanctions getting removed by the United States,

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Speaker 3: geting applause from the left and from the right, Syria

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Speaker 3: opening up the airspace to allow Israeli jets to move through,

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Speaker 3: and then you have the Bedouins going about basically slaughtering

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Speaker 3: the Druze community d r u Ze. If you'll remember

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Speaker 3: when Bashar al Asad fell and I think he escaped

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Speaker 3: to Russia.

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Speaker 7: And.

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Speaker 3: This new group, this Al Nusra group came to me.

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Speaker 3: I believe it was an Al Nusra group. It was

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Speaker 3: the Druze community that was begging, begging the Israelis to

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Speaker 3: absorb them, expand the goal on please we beg of you.

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Speaker 13: Well, it's these same people who have been attacked, who

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Speaker 13: have been slaughtered. The video is horrifying, And it was

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Speaker 13: the Israelis who engaged the bombing of Damascus and of

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Speaker 13: other places to get this to stop. Then the militants,

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Speaker 13: the military stopped bagging the Bedouins and there was a halt.

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Speaker 3: I don't know how well that's going right now. I'm

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Speaker 3: not sure, but it has really thrown a tremendous amount

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Speaker 3: into upheaval regarding Syria because now it's like, well, wait

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Speaker 3: a second, can these people actually control this country? Can

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Speaker 3: they do anything to to keep this from from escalating.

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Speaker 3: The reason that I think that it's going to come

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Speaker 3: up in in today's briefing, as it has come up before,

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Speaker 3: is that this is going to be about the United

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Speaker 3: States trying to keep a tempering of Israel in some

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Speaker 3: of their actions. Right this this this part of it

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Speaker 3: is going to come up. There's also a conversation of

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Speaker 3: Not only is this the Druze community d r u Ze,

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Speaker 3: but this is also Syrian Christians that are under attack

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Speaker 3: and assault. What is the plan here? There's nothing wrong

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Speaker 3: with bringing this up, There's nothing wrong with asking for

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Speaker 3: information about it, nothing wrong with wanting to hear from

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Speaker 3: the president on this subject. But it should be noted

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Speaker 3: that the people who are asking these questions are the

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Speaker 3: ones interested in saving lives. You know who isn't asking

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Speaker 3: these questions, who doesn't care what happens to the Jews

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Speaker 3: or to the Christians. The people on college campuses screaming

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Speaker 3: about a so called genocide. These aren't people on the

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Speaker 3: side of Hamas. Wait I take them back. They're totally

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Speaker 3: on the side of Hamas, but they're not on the

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Speaker 3: side of the Palestinians. They just hate Jews, therefore destroy Israel.

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Speaker 3: This is who they are, This is what they want.

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Speaker 3: This brings us to Lae Muhammad, you know the name.

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Speaker 3: This is the guy who was there on the campus

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Speaker 3: of Colombia, and he was the one organizing the rallies

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Speaker 3: against Jews. And he's not actually a citizen of the

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Speaker 3: United States, and he shows a tremendous amount of support

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Speaker 3: in a lot of different ways for Hamas, which is

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Speaker 3: a terrorist organization, and he was detained by the Trump administration,

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Speaker 3: then was ordered freed. Now he's going to sue. He's

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Speaker 3: on CNN, and let me just say, for the record,

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Speaker 3: an incredible moment from CNN where they engage actual reporting.

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Speaker 3: Check this out.

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Speaker 14: Just to be clear here, though, do you specifically condemn

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Speaker 14: Hamas he designated terrorist organization in the United States, not

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Speaker 14: just for their actions on October.

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Speaker 15: Seventh, I condemned for the killing of old billions full

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Speaker 15: of stop. And but what I don't want to get

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Speaker 15: into is is no, I am very clear with with

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Speaker 15: condemning all civilians.

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Speaker 7: I'm very I'm very straight in my position and that

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Speaker 7: and that part well, it's.

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Speaker 15: It's this ingenuous to ask about condemning Hamas while Palestinians

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Speaker 15: are the ones being starved now by Israel.

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Speaker 3: No one is being starved by Israel. That's a lie.

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Speaker 3: You can see photos and video of the AID that's

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Speaker 3: sitting there waitings go in by the UN and it's

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Speaker 3: not going in. Hamas has starved its people and the

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Speaker 3: people of Gaza for years. Hamas is the issue. I

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Speaker 3: can also show you a tremendous number of videos that

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Speaker 3: show nobody's actually starving except the hostages who have been

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Speaker 3: kept for almost two years. It's disingenuous. Did he say?

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Speaker 3: Is that the terminology?

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Speaker 7: I'm very I'm very straight in my position and that

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Speaker 7: and that part. But it's this ingenuous.

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Speaker 15: To ask about condemning Hamas while Palestinians are the ones

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Speaker 15: being starved now by Israel.

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Speaker 3: Condemning hunt terrorist organization is pretty easy to do. It

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Speaker 3: has nothing to do with Israel. Every single thing you

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Speaker 3: see is the fault of Hamas, every single part of it.

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Speaker 3: I don't give a damn with Khalil Mohammad says the

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Speaker 3: guy said, I'm sorry, I said Mohammad. That was not

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Speaker 3: his name, mak Muckhalil. Sorry, apologies, get the name right

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Speaker 3: for the terrorist supporter. That's what I say, But you

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Speaker 3: got to use the right name, mack Muckhalil. I apologies here.

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Speaker 3: He is not willing to condemn a terrorist organization because

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Speaker 3: he supports the terrorist organization. That's the story. What I

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Speaker 3: was impressed by is is that CNN pushed him. That

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Speaker 3: was Pamela Brown was actually pushing him on this subject.

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Speaker 3: Will you condemn them?

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Speaker 7: No?

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Speaker 3: Will? Zoran Mondani the guy running for mayor of New

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Speaker 3: York condemn them, No, he won't. Will the socialists who

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Speaker 3: just got the nomination of the party there what's called

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Speaker 3: the DFL in Minneapolis to be the next mayor condemn

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Speaker 3: MOUs No, no, they won't. They favor the terrorist. They

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Speaker 3: side with the terrorists, and none of them have a

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Speaker 3: thought about Syrian Christians or the Druze community. They don't care.

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Speaker 3: They don't care that Islamists are slaughtering them. They don't care.

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Speaker 3: It's fine. Just as a reminder when they talk about humanity,

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Speaker 3: No they're not. They're not very consistent people. And when

645
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Speaker 3: we say not very consistent, they are truly full of crap.

646
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Speaker 3: They favor the terrorists, they favor the destruction of Israel,

647
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Speaker 3: they favor the destruction of the West, and that means Christians.

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Speaker 3: It is what it is. And now you know, I'm

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Speaker 3: Tony Katz. This is Tony Katz today. So we're waiting

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Speaker 3: on the White House Press briefing, and as we're waiting,

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Speaker 3: I come across this from the speaker, Mike Johnson regarding

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Speaker 3: the outright lies of the political left regarding the Epstein

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Speaker 3: files and this legislation that Democrats wanted to get through

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Speaker 3: and now basically accusing of people like Mike Johnson of

655
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Speaker 3: protecting pedophiles. Democrats could have released anything from the Epstein

656
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Speaker 3: files in the past four years, and they didn't do it.

657
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Speaker 3: They're only interested now because Trump is like, why do

658
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Speaker 3: we care about this? Remember Trump was wrong on that one.

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Speaker 3: Democrats have nothing else to do. So it's this call

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Speaker 3: people pedal files. While they're the party that's reports men

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Speaker 3: being in women's locker rooms, boys being able to pretend

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Speaker 3: that they're girls, and then allowing children to mutilate their

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Speaker 3: bodies to pretend that there's something else. That's the Team

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Speaker 3: Jeffries Party. That's fun. Tony Katz, Tony Kats today, good

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Speaker 3: to be with you. What did the speaker have to say?

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Speaker 14: False headline in the New York Times, And the headline

667
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Speaker 14: was terribly misleading. It said House Republicans are quote adjourneying

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Speaker 14: until September to avoid a vote on releasing Epstein materials.

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Speaker 14: I just want you to know, and everybody here knows

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Speaker 14: that's an outright lie. It's not true, and they were

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Speaker 14: forced to modify their headline and update it today. The

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Speaker 14: reason is we all know that's the initial lie travels

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Speaker 14: much faster than the truth, and so we're making sure

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Speaker 14: that people know what is actually going on here. I

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Speaker 14: think every single one of your publications have known that

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Speaker 14: the published schedule of Congress was decided in December of

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Speaker 14: twenty twenty four, and it's been published ever since. We

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Speaker 14: are fulfilling the calendar. We're working, we'll be working tomorrow.

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Speaker 14: They've been votes every day this week. We have nine

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Speaker 14: or ten committees working through markups this week, many tomorrow.

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Speaker 14: Congress is doing its work. No one is a journey early.

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Speaker 3: We have an.

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Speaker 14: August district work period that is very important to the

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Speaker 14: function of Congress that has been recognized for all of

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Speaker 14: the memory of this institution, and that is what everyone

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Speaker 14: will be doing. The Times is forced to change the

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Speaker 14: headline because it was completely false. No one in Congress

688
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Speaker 14: is blocking Epstein documents. No one in Congress is doing that.

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Speaker 3: Now, before we continue here, that's a lot that just

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Speaker 3: got stated by the speaker. We're not a journey. The

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Speaker 3: headlines were clear, you're a journeying. News outlets have had

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Speaker 3: to redo their headlines because they've absolutely got it wrong. Well, listen,

693
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Speaker 3: all they did was say, what do you want us

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Speaker 3: to say, Hakeim, and they were like, Hakim, GESSI will

695
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Speaker 3: say this. And they said, yes, sir, right away, sir,

696
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Speaker 3: whatever you want, sir. By the way, you look great, sir,

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Speaker 3: And and that was it. Remember this is what they

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Speaker 3: do trust in New York Times. Aw hell now, but

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Speaker 3: now let's get into this part.

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Speaker 14: What we were doing here. Republicans are preventing Democrats from

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Speaker 14: making a mockery of the Rules Committee process because we

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Speaker 14: refuse to engage in their political charade. That is what

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Speaker 14: is happening, and nothing more. The way Democrats are trying

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Speaker 14: to weaponize this issue is absolutely shameless.

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Speaker 8: And I just want to say this.

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Speaker 14: Democrats said nothing and did nothing, absolutely nothing about bringing

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Speaker 14: transparency for the entire four years of the Biden presidency.

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Speaker 14: But now all of a sudden, they want the American

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Speaker 14: people to believe that they actually care.

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Speaker 3: What did we what do we just say? Booboo? What

711
00:48:40,760 --> 00:48:48,520
Speaker 3: did we just say? It's so obvious, it's so clear,

712
00:48:48,600 --> 00:48:51,799
Speaker 3: it's so transparent, it is so understood by all of us.

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Speaker 3: We knew it immediately, We knew the answer immediately. Of course,

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Speaker 3: they don't care. The Kam Jeffaries doesn't get we have

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Speaker 3: a damn about who got abused on Epstein Island. Neither

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Speaker 3: does Amy Klobuchar. Neither does Representative of COSTI quotes or

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Speaker 3: Iona Presley Aana Pressley went on a bender day talking

718
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Speaker 3: about how important DEI is, So you know they're they're

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Speaker 3: focused on the things that move America. But we called

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Speaker 3: this one and let the speaker cook.

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Speaker 14: Their actions, belie their words. We will not be lectured

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Speaker 14: on transparency by the same party that orchestrated one of

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Speaker 14: the most shameless, dangerous political cover ups in the history

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Speaker 14: of the United States, and that was President Biden's obvious

725
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Speaker 14: mental decline. House Republicans stand for maximum transparency and truth.

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Speaker 14: We always have and we always will. We're in lockstep

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Speaker 14: with President Trump and his administration.

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Speaker 3: Can I just say I love that line?

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Speaker 14: Their actions rely their words. We will not be lectured

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Speaker 14: on transparence by the same party that orchestrated one of

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Speaker 14: the most shameless, dangerous political cover ups in the history

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Speaker 14: of the United States, and that.

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Speaker 8: Was President Biden's obvious mental decline.

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Speaker 3: Yes, yes, oh gods, oh so good, so so good.

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Speaker 3: Is that line from Mike Johnson right there. I didn't

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Speaker 3: even got into that part. That is that is true,

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Speaker 3: and they are all guilty. Everybody in the cabinet, including

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Speaker 3: the smarmy Pete Buddha judge, the never gonna be president

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Speaker 3: won't be governor of California either. Kamala Harris, by the way,

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Speaker 3: her new restaurant word salad fantastic. Oh, just terrific. You

741
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Speaker 3: should try the what did she say? Greek? It's so good.

742
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Speaker 3: It is so good you don't even have to get

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Speaker 3: the anchovies. That's how good that one is. Continue, Speaker Johnson.

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Speaker 7: House.

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Speaker 14: Republicans stand for maximum transparency and truth. We always have

746
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Speaker 14: and we always will. We're in lockstep with President Trump

747
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Speaker 14: and his administration on this issue. We are pushing for

748
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Speaker 14: the release of all credible information to be released with

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Speaker 14: regard of the Epstein matter. I would note also that

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Speaker 14: there are real issues legal issues with the Khana resolution.

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Speaker 14: With the massive resolution, Kanas has no protection whatsoever for

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Speaker 14: the victims of these horrible, unspeakable sex crimes, and Massy's

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Speaker 14: doesn't go far enough.

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Speaker 3: So he's talking about resolutions or a legislation know is

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Speaker 3: put up by Rokahanna, Democrat from California and Thomas Massey,

756
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Speaker 3: Republican from Kentucky and I will say this about Rokahanna.

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Speaker 3: We disagree about a great number of politics. He's always

758
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Speaker 3: been a guy who is a who favors free speech

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Speaker 3: and is aggressive about it and protecting of Republicans about it.

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Speaker 3: And I'm willing to believe in Rokahanna that while I

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Speaker 3: think that his political basis is wrong, that at times

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Speaker 3: his motivation is legit. One of the very few people

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Speaker 3: on the left side of the I say that about

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Speaker 3: Thomas Massey. I clearly an anti Israel guy, clearly has

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Speaker 3: got a serious issue there and it's ever growing. But

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Speaker 3: I think it is true when he talks about spending.

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Speaker 3: I think that he's legitimate on this subject. I'm willing

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Speaker 3: to say that he wants the information, not letting any

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Speaker 3: of the other issues he has, whether with Trump or

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Speaker 3: with the Republican Party, even though he's a Republican, you

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Speaker 3: know those notwithstanding there there are absolutely issues with the

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Speaker 3: data that gets released. And that's why I thought it

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Speaker 3: was important when Trump said to Pam BONDI released this

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Speaker 3: with the court's approval. That's what indeed we're waiting on.

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Speaker 3: I still want the information, and you'll note that so

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Speaker 3: does Speaker Johnson. So the argument that this is all

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Speaker 3: coming from the so called influencers or radio hosts and

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Speaker 3: that isn't coming from a lot of different places is bunk.

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Speaker 3: It's coming from a lot of different places on the

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Speaker 3: political right, never mind the political left, which is all political.

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Speaker 3: This is about wanting the data, and it is clear

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Speaker 3: that we are not alone in this want. There are

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Speaker 3: many others who want this, and I'm thankful for that.

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Speaker 3: But there is no doubt what Speaker Johnson said is

785
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Speaker 3: one thousand percent accurate. One thousand percent. There is nothing

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Speaker 3: that the Democratic Party is discussing that should be taken

787
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Speaker 3: as serious because it is not all politics all the time.

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Speaker 3: So I loved that from Mike Johnson, who I have

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Speaker 3: to assume if Republicans hold in twenty twenty six, he'll

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Speaker 3: be the speaker again. I think he learned early to say,

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Speaker 3: you know what, Trump's leading this party, and we're gonna

792
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Speaker 3: go along with this, or we're gonna push this, or

793
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Speaker 3: we're gonna have his backing and go forward. He has

794
00:54:30,360 --> 00:54:34,840
Speaker 3: been able to in some of these places step out

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Speaker 3: and have his own voice. I think that in the

796
00:54:38,640 --> 00:54:45,359
Speaker 3: main he's been this accidental speaker. He's been impressive. What

797
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Speaker 3: will be. The real telltale is what is the money raised?

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Speaker 3: Where does the spend go? And it's one thing to win.

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Speaker 3: Will you pick up seats? Remember the midterm election after

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Speaker 3: a presidential election, so which usually is the case, the

801
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Speaker 3: party usually swings out, meaning that Democrats should historically pick

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Speaker 3: up seats. If Republicans pick up seats, Mike Johnson's a hero.

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Speaker 3: Keep it here is Tony. I promised i'd tell you

804
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Speaker 3: about the eggs. They're fine for you. You're all right.

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Speaker 3: Nobody knows what they're talking about. Eggs are thought to

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Speaker 3: increase heart disease by raising cholesterol levels. If you eat

807
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Speaker 3: two eggs a day, you get a reduction in LDL

808
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Speaker 3: LDL being the bad cholesterol, as long as your diet

809
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Speaker 3: remains low and saturated fat, which one could easily understand.

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Speaker 3: Tony Katz, Tony kats today, good to be with you.

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Speaker 3: I remember when we were told that eggs were bad

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Speaker 3: for you. Coffee was bad for you. Then coffee was

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00:56:06,600 --> 00:56:09,759
Speaker 3: good for you. Now eggs are good for you. Nobody

814
00:56:09,880 --> 00:56:16,880
Speaker 3: knows anything, or we learn more, and as we learn more,

815
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Speaker 3: we are able to well make changes. This is a

816
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Speaker 3: reminder that the idea of the science has settled, Like

817
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Speaker 3: the people who want to scream that about climate change.

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Speaker 3: The science has never settled. And if the science was settled,

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Speaker 3: you never would have called it climate change. You'd keep

820
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Speaker 3: calling it global warming. But since that did not work

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Speaker 3: for your catch all and cover all of how wrong

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Speaker 3: you were, you went to climate change. So no matter

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Speaker 3: what happened, you can go, ah, we see you. Then

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Speaker 3: there's a story out of Kansas City. The story out

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Speaker 3: of Kansas City is that they created a grocery store.

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Speaker 3: It's a neighborhood grocery store, Casey Sunfresh, Kansas City. The

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Speaker 3: grocery store lost eight hundred and eighty five thousand dollars

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Speaker 3: last year, down to four thousand shoppers a week. It

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Speaker 3: used to have fourteen thousand. They cannot keep products on

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Speaker 3: the shelves. It looks it looks like what you would

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Speaker 3: picture a Soviet Russia looking like it looks. The shells

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Speaker 3: look very covidy. You have got states that are trying

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Speaker 3: to play around with this idea publicly supported grocery stores.

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Speaker 3: You have in New York, Mom, Donnie, this socialist and

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Speaker 3: a communist pushing for this idea. This doesn't work. Government

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Speaker 3: does not know how to run grocery stores. Grocery stores

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Speaker 3: run on insanely thin margins one percent in some cases.

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Speaker 3: It's it's it's unbelievable. And there's a story about a

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Speaker 3: group called Homeland Acquisition Corp. So they have a grocery

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Speaker 3: stores at Oklahoma, right, Tulsa, we are I don't know

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Speaker 3: how many are in Tulsa. If they are in Tulsa

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Speaker 3: where we're heard on KRMG, they're in Texas, they're in Georgia.

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Speaker 3: They're confirming that they're closing four locations under this Homeland

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Speaker 3: brand United Supermarkets Discount Foods, and they're gonna close another

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Speaker 3: location in Georgia. Now, these people are in the business.

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Speaker 3: This is what they do. They might not necessarily be

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Speaker 3: the size of Kroger. Right, they are the largest locally

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Speaker 3: owned grocery store chain in Oklahoma, thirty six locations across

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Speaker 3: the state. Now I've never been in one. Actually I

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Speaker 3: have not been to Oklahoma. I gotta get there. I

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Speaker 3: gotta get to Tulsa. That has to happen. We gotta

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Speaker 3: eat some good steak or some barbecue, and we gotta

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Speaker 3: smoke a cigar together, fall in love and make a baby,

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Speaker 3: all the things. And they stated that by closing these stores,

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Speaker 3: we're able to focus on the greatest opportunities that strengthen

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Speaker 3: our communities, grow communities, and to really strengthen our organization

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Speaker 3: by focusing resources in those areas. That's not a great

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Speaker 3: statement there from the director of marketing and public Relations.

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Speaker 3: I just think it could be in a little cleaner.

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Speaker 3: The financial performance of these stores is the driver of

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Speaker 3: the decision. Just like the canceling of Stephen Colbert Show.

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Speaker 3: It had nothing to do with Trump, it had nothing

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Speaker 3: to do with the settlements regarding the lies told around

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Speaker 3: Kamala Harris's video and the editing and everything else. I

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Speaker 3: had nothing to do with that. That's all lie. But

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Speaker 3: these people are in the business, right, I hold no

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Speaker 3: ill will against Home. I don't know anything about them.

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Speaker 3: They might be great operators, they might be really beloved,

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Speaker 3: maybe not. I'm not sure. I'm not disparaging. I'm just

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Speaker 3: stating we don't know other pieces. What we know is

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Speaker 3: that they're in this business. This is what they do,

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Speaker 3: and even with their expertise, they have to close stores

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Speaker 3: because of the challenges inflation, shifting consumer habits, increase competition,

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Speaker 3: new entrance. Some of the reasons why the competitive landscape

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Speaker 3: has changed. This according to a senior equity analyst at

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Speaker 3: CFA Research, Okay, competition changes in patterns. Well, that's stuff

877
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Speaker 3: that you have to deal with, and you gotta be

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Speaker 3: able to flow with and and and and understand those

879
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Speaker 3: patterns quickly and and adapt to them. What makes me

880
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Speaker 3: think that communists running a government could do such a thing.

881
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Speaker 3: They don't even know how to run a government. They don't,

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Speaker 3: so this idea that they can run supermarkets is laughable.

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Speaker 3: And this brings us back to the story out of

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Speaker 3: Kansas City, this story from the Washington Post. They can't

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Speaker 3: make it work. And it's not only Kansas City. They've

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Speaker 3: tried this in places in Florida, failed, Massachusetts failed. Government

887
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Speaker 3: is not efficient, you know, it's it's Milton Freeman. Late

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Speaker 3: Milton Freeman has said, the only place where I haven't

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Speaker 3: been able to figure out how it can be run

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Speaker 3: better by the private sector as the military. I can't

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Speaker 3: figure that one out. And he said, so I resign

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Speaker 3: myself to understanding that everything is going to cost twice

893
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Speaker 3: as much as it should. He doesn't resign himself alone

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Speaker 3: to saying, oh, well, I can't figure it out. I

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Speaker 3: guess it's for government. It is government's going to do this,

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Speaker 3: and it's going to cost twice as much until we

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Speaker 3: figure out how else it could be run. By the way,

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Speaker 3: maybe it can't be run any other way. There's also

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Speaker 3: an argument maybe it shouldn't be run any other way.

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Speaker 3: But if it's going to be run by government, as

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Speaker 3: Milton Friedman states eloquently, it's going to cost twice as

902
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Speaker 3: much as it said. If that's true of the military,

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Speaker 3: how is that not equally true of a grocery store.

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Speaker 3: The problem of when you think that government is the

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Speaker 3: answer to all of life's ills is that they never

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Speaker 3: answer what happens when they fail. Grocery store didn't work

907
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Speaker 3: in Kansas City. Government owns, hmmm, it's got to be

908
01:03:33,800 --> 01:03:37,440
Speaker 3: somebody's fault. They never ask themselves how they can do

909
01:03:37,480 --> 01:03:39,600
Speaker 3: it better. They only say, let's try it to get

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Speaker 3: over here, keep spending the money that isn't ours. They

911
01:03:45,040 --> 01:03:47,720
Speaker 3: have no capacity to learn, because they have no incentive

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Speaker 3: to learn, because they could just do it again without learning.

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Speaker 3: Just an important note that if they do this in

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Speaker 3: New York, it will fail. Because it does fail. There

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Speaker 3: is no way to make it work. Like communism, there

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Speaker 3: is no way to make it work. I'm Tony Katz.

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Speaker 3: This is Tony Katz.

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Speaker 8: Today on the topic of trade.

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Speaker 10: Yesterday, President Trump accomplished something no other president has ever achieved.

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Speaker 10: President secured and announced three major trade deals with the Philippines, Indonesia,

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Speaker 10: and Japan, all in one day. President Trump is finally

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Speaker 10: putting a stop to our country getting ripped off.

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Speaker 3: Tony Katz, Tony Katz today, Good to be with you.

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Speaker 3: Why US press briefing late? Better late than never? Three

925
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Speaker 3: trade deals? Of course, we've been talking about it. Let's

926
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Speaker 3: bring it back to Caroline Levi at the Press Secretary.

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Speaker 10: Heres are being broken down thanks to President Trump. These

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Speaker 10: countries around the world are agreeing to open their markets

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Speaker 10: to American made products and goods for the first time,

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Speaker 10: which will lead to a boom in sales and profits

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Speaker 10: for American businesses right here at home. As President Trump said,

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Speaker 10: he will only lower tariff rates if a country agrees

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Speaker 10: to open their market to American made products. If not,

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Speaker 10: they will continue to face tariffs and pay a steep

935
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Speaker 10: price to do business in the United States of America,

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Speaker 10: which remains the best market on the face of the planet.

937
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Speaker 10: Also this week, the President officially marked six months here

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Speaker 10: at the White House. He made big promises to the

939
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Speaker 10: American people on the campaign trail last year, and he

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Speaker 10: has unquestionably delivered on those promises in record time. The

941
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Speaker 10: President has defeated the Biden inflation crisis to make America

942
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Speaker 10: affordable again. Core inflation is currently at its lowest level

943
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Speaker 10: in four years, and prices for everyday goods are falling.

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Speaker 10: The President's pro growth policies have fueled massive job growth

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Speaker 10: across our country. Since the President has taken office, our

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Speaker 10: economy has added nearly seven hundred thousand new jobs, with

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Speaker 10: native born American workers.

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Speaker 8: Accounting for all job gains.

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Speaker 10: The President has put the economic needs of families and

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Speaker 10: of workers first. He signed the largest tax cuts for

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Speaker 10: the middle class in American history, including no tax on

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Speaker 10: tips over time in social Security.

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Speaker 3: Now you know in the in the tips conversation, it's

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Speaker 3: tips up to twenty five thousand dollars. A couple other

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Speaker 3: pieces involved there. So they're giving and overarching, not getting

956
01:06:20,680 --> 01:06:23,760
Speaker 3: into the details. But hey, they're they're crowing about the

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Speaker 3: things that they have done. And this is the part

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Speaker 3: of the press conference where it's look at look at us,

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Speaker 3: look at us, look at us. This is this is

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Speaker 3: the standard operating procedure for these things. The questions will come,

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Speaker 3: I'll bring to you as many of them as I can.

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Speaker 3: There's also a conversation about AI. He's giving a keynote

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Speaker 3: speech at an AI summit, pushing America to be the

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Speaker 3: leader in this world, which is to say, being the

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Speaker 3: ones who can stop China from engaging in the disinformation

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Speaker 3: through their AI, because you couldn't trust a single thing

967
01:06:59,160 --> 01:07:02,760
Speaker 3: that the communist Chining He's party put forth. If TikTok

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Speaker 3: is any example there, it is bring it back to the.

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Speaker 10: Presser cutting edge technology to replenish our stockpiles and provide

970
01:07:12,160 --> 01:07:15,840
Speaker 10: American troops with the best equipment in the world. The

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Speaker 10: US Army, Navy, Air Force, and Space Force have all

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Speaker 10: reached their recruitment goals months in advance. The President has

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Speaker 10: restored America's standing on the world stage, brought back peace

974
01:07:26,320 --> 01:07:29,800
Speaker 10: through strength, and broken numerous peace agreements.

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Speaker 8: To end wars again. All of this in just six months.

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Speaker 10: He obliterated Aron's nuclear program to end the war between

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Speaker 10: Israel and Iran, got NATO members to raise their defense

978
01:07:39,440 --> 01:07:42,840
Speaker 10: spending to five percent of GDP, and secured a ceasefire

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Speaker 10: between India and Pakistan, as well as brokering a historic

980
01:07:46,520 --> 01:07:49,360
Speaker 10: agreement between Rwanda and the Democratic Republic.

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Speaker 3: And now it's just going over the winds again. This

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01:07:53,720 --> 01:07:58,400
Speaker 3: is to keep the subject in people's heads. This is

983
01:07:58,480 --> 01:08:02,760
Speaker 3: the counter to the media not talking about things where

984
01:08:02,800 --> 01:08:07,600
Speaker 3: success is happening, but only saying, ooh, Epstein, I'm somebody

985
01:08:07,600 --> 01:08:11,080
Speaker 3: who wants to release I'm somebody who also can notice

986
01:08:11,280 --> 01:08:14,400
Speaker 3: how it is these things are being manipulated and who's

987
01:08:14,400 --> 01:08:18,640
Speaker 3: doing the manipulating. So the you know, for those of

988
01:08:18,720 --> 01:08:20,320
Speaker 3: us who are like, hey, let's just catch to the questions,

989
01:08:20,360 --> 01:08:22,960
Speaker 3: let's get into some of the some of the details here,

990
01:08:23,360 --> 01:08:27,800
Speaker 3: this seems superfluous. It could. To some this seems like

991
01:08:27,920 --> 01:08:32,520
Speaker 3: it's it's just going along bragging. The White House understands

992
01:08:33,400 --> 01:08:37,360
Speaker 3: that there are a tremendous number of these subjects that

993
01:08:37,439 --> 01:08:40,040
Speaker 3: don't ever make it to the light of day. For

994
01:08:40,160 --> 01:08:43,080
Speaker 3: a lot of Americans because they watch CNN and MSNBC,

995
01:08:43,640 --> 01:08:45,800
Speaker 3: they never hear this. If you're only reading the New

996
01:08:45,880 --> 01:08:52,479
Speaker 3: York Times, never, never, never, they don't get it. Back

997
01:08:52,520 --> 01:08:52,760
Speaker 3: to the.

998
01:08:52,720 --> 01:08:56,800
Speaker 10: Presser vacation for baseless smears against President Trump talking about

999
01:08:56,840 --> 01:08:59,840
Speaker 10: a more effort to try to delegitimize his victory before

1000
01:08:59,880 --> 01:09:03,439
Speaker 10: he even took the oath of office. The truth is

1001
01:09:03,520 --> 01:09:06,839
Speaker 10: that President Trump never had anything to do with Russia,

1002
01:09:07,200 --> 01:09:11,520
Speaker 10: and the Russia collusion hoax was a massive fraud perpetuated

1003
01:09:11,560 --> 01:09:13,919
Speaker 10: on the American people from the very beginning.

1004
01:09:14,240 --> 01:09:15,360
Speaker 8: And the worst part of.

1005
01:09:15,320 --> 01:09:18,240
Speaker 10: This is Obama knew that truth, and so did all

1006
01:09:18,280 --> 01:09:21,759
Speaker 10: of the other corruptive officials involved in this scam, including

1007
01:09:21,800 --> 01:09:26,799
Speaker 10: former CIA director John Brennan, former Director of National Intelligence Clapper,

1008
01:09:27,160 --> 01:09:32,000
Speaker 10: FORBI director James Comey, former Deputy Director Andrew McCabe, and

1009
01:09:32,040 --> 01:09:36,600
Speaker 10: many others. Director of National Intelligence Gabbage report further confirms

1010
01:09:36,640 --> 01:09:40,240
Speaker 10: what we already knew. There was no collusion, no corruption

1011
01:09:40,720 --> 01:09:43,800
Speaker 10: except on the part of Barack Obama and the weaponized

1012
01:09:43,840 --> 01:09:45,559
Speaker 10: intelligence agencies at the time.

1013
01:09:46,040 --> 01:09:47,280
Speaker 8: The Russia hoax was a.

1014
01:09:47,200 --> 01:09:50,920
Speaker 10: Blatant lie, all ginned up by Democrat political operatives that

1015
01:09:50,960 --> 01:09:55,120
Speaker 10: were signed off on then President Obama and leaks to

1016
01:09:55,200 --> 01:09:58,000
Speaker 10: the news media to launch a year's long witch hunt

1017
01:09:58,040 --> 01:10:02,120
Speaker 10: against President Trump and his first administration. Acurate allies of

1018
01:10:02,160 --> 01:10:05,720
Speaker 10: the President, including his own son, Donald Trump Junior, were

1019
01:10:05,760 --> 01:10:09,720
Speaker 10: disgustingly smeared as Russian assets, and some even had their

1020
01:10:09,760 --> 01:10:10,720
Speaker 10: lives destroyed.

1021
01:10:11,040 --> 01:10:12,840
Speaker 8: Because of this vicious lie.

1022
01:10:12,880 --> 01:10:15,639
Speaker 10: The President's first two years in office had this fake

1023
01:10:15,720 --> 01:10:20,040
Speaker 10: distraction hanging over it. In endless resources, time and political

1024
01:10:20,080 --> 01:10:23,120
Speaker 10: capital we're spent having to debunk these lies from the

1025
01:10:23,200 --> 01:10:27,719
Speaker 10: highest levels of our government. Now, nearly ten years later,

1026
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Speaker 10: thanks to the declassification of documents by Director Gabbard, the

1027
01:10:31,400 --> 01:10:34,640
Speaker 10: truth has finally come to light, and this truth vindicates

1028
01:10:34,680 --> 01:10:38,400
Speaker 10: President Trump, his family, his many allies and associates who

1029
01:10:38,400 --> 01:10:42,559
Speaker 10: were smeared with defamatory lies. President Trump was right from

1030
01:10:42,600 --> 01:10:45,040
Speaker 10: the beginning about all of this, and we are grateful

1031
01:10:45,120 --> 01:10:48,240
Speaker 10: that justice can be served. Now we have even more

1032
01:10:48,320 --> 01:10:51,400
Speaker 10: damning evidence implicating those who tried to sabotage a duly

1033
01:10:51,439 --> 01:10:55,240
Speaker 10: elected president and did grave material harm to our republic.

1034
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Speaker 3: Charge them.

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Speaker 10: Important work done by CIA Director Ratcliffe, Committee Chairman Crawford.

1036
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Speaker 8: Over the past few months.

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Speaker 10: A newly declassified twenty I love this, paired by the

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Speaker 10: House Permanent Seat.

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Speaker 3: Go over the victories because lots in America don't ever

1040
01:11:11,680 --> 01:11:15,400
Speaker 3: get to hear them and then stay focused on what

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01:11:15,520 --> 01:11:18,680
Speaker 3: it is Obama and as cronies did, because they are indeed,

1042
01:11:19,320 --> 01:11:22,080
Speaker 3: people should be looked at as suspect and if you've

1043
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Speaker 3: got it, charge them Now. I'm Tony Kats.

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Speaker 1: Live from Dall Hartbeiner and the Crossroads of America.

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Speaker 3: It's Tony Katz Today. A trade deal with Japan is

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Speaker 3: good stuff. I'm happy to see it. I want to

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Speaker 3: see more of it. Mostly, I want to see what

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Speaker 3: it is that Japan buys. Tony Katz. Tony Katz Today,

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Speaker 3: good to be with You find everything at Tony Katz

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Speaker 3: dot com. The reason I spring this up is that

1051
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Speaker 3: I'm not interested in pouring cold water over these conversations,

1052
01:12:07,360 --> 01:12:09,719
Speaker 3: these deals to deal with the Philippines, deal with Japan

1053
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Speaker 3: five hundred and fifty billion dollars worth of investment, where

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Speaker 3: somehow the US is going to keep ninety percent of

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Speaker 3: the profits and I don't I don't quite know how

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Speaker 3: that works. You've got fifteen percent reciprocal tariffs now instead

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Speaker 3: of twenty five percent, which hopefully will set a lot

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Speaker 3: of certainty with businesses so they can get back to

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Speaker 3: a level of manufacturing because we've had manufacturing down for

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Speaker 3: four months in a row, maybe levels of buying, et cetera.

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Speaker 3: Whatever they're buying from Japan. And does this then have

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Speaker 3: an effect on a deal with China where you can

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Speaker 3: get some of that under control. In terms of certainty,

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Speaker 3: it's said every time we're told that, oh, they're going

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Speaker 3: to open up markets to the US. Right, they're going

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Speaker 3: to open up markets in Japan for autos and rice,

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Speaker 3: which is pretty impressive. Then the Philippines they're going to

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Speaker 3: open up tariffs. I mean, they're going to open up

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Speaker 3: markets to all US products. No tariffs on American products,

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Speaker 3: but Philippine products will have a is it seventeen percent

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Speaker 3: or nineteen percent tariff on them coming into the US.

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Speaker 3: Those parts of these things, I do not know if

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Speaker 3: they make people feel good or maybe they say themselves, okay,

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Speaker 3: that's done. Now, we could say certitude even if we

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Speaker 3: don't know if they're gonna buy anything to me, I'm

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Speaker 3: interested in the buying part that a market gets open

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Speaker 3: to me is not as that's only step one, and

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Speaker 3: we should really that's the point. I shouldn't pour cold

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Speaker 3: water on it to utilize a terrible cliche. That's a

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Speaker 3: good thing. We should recognize that that's a good thing.

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Speaker 3: I want to know whether or not the American producer

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Speaker 3: of name the product thinks that that matters to them

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Speaker 3: just because the Philippines or Japan opens a market the

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Speaker 3: UK opens a market, will people buy? Doesn't that part matter?

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Speaker 3: Maybe the overarching thing is that the Trump administration can

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Speaker 3: announce trade deals done, putting more pressure on China to

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Speaker 3: do a deal, and getting more certainty amongst American manufacturers,

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Speaker 3: American business. That might very well be enough. Have the

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Speaker 3: Olympics become normal? And is Late Night really dead? That's

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Speaker 3: coming up next. This is Tony Katz today. I have

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Speaker 3: stated that I'm going to write a book. I'm terrible

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Speaker 3: as a writer. I'm off I can write about berban

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01:14:20,080 --> 01:14:23,759
Speaker 3: I can write about barbecue. Yeah, that's easy. It wasn't easy.

1094
01:14:24,240 --> 01:14:27,559
Speaker 3: But to write politically, I just find I start writing

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01:14:27,640 --> 01:14:29,680
Speaker 3: and then I'm like, I don't want to read this.

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Speaker 3: And then I stop and like I think I have

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Speaker 3: three or four books that I've started four chapters on.

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Speaker 3: I'm like, okay, we're done here, Tony Katz, Tony Katz today,

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Speaker 3: good to be with you. But the new book is

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Speaker 3: going to be Why is it so hard to be normal?

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01:14:43,680 --> 01:14:49,840
Speaker 3: Why can't people just be normal? It's constant and consistent

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Speaker 3: in every part of our politics. Ed Marcy joins me,

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01:14:54,200 --> 01:14:57,719
Speaker 3: right now, he's normal kind of From hot air dot

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01:14:57,760 --> 01:15:01,639
Speaker 3: Com is where you find him. I've got three things

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01:15:01,680 --> 01:15:04,840
Speaker 3: to discuss in a conversation of normal. We're going to

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01:15:04,880 --> 01:15:09,479
Speaker 3: start with the Olympics, because the US Olympic Committee, as

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01:15:09,640 --> 01:15:13,720
Speaker 3: you tell the story, has very quietly you know, it's

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01:15:13,800 --> 01:15:17,360
Speaker 3: Elmer Fudd'd be very very quiet with telling the twoof

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01:15:18,680 --> 01:15:21,240
Speaker 3: that was impressive. You got to admit it was nice.

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01:15:21,439 --> 01:15:25,120
Speaker 3: That was good. They are going to stop having male

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01:15:25,200 --> 01:15:30,519
Speaker 3: athletes in female sports. Is this so we can be normal?

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Speaker 3: We have now gone through this entire world of insanity

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01:15:34,840 --> 01:15:36,720
Speaker 3: of somehow men are women and women are men when

1114
01:15:36,720 --> 01:15:39,839
Speaker 3: that is not the case, and enough pushback has occurred

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01:15:40,160 --> 01:15:42,439
Speaker 3: where we're stopping the insanity. Is that what we're seeing?

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01:15:43,800 --> 01:15:46,719
Speaker 5: Well, I think it's what we're seeing now. They didn't

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01:15:46,760 --> 01:15:48,760
Speaker 5: make an announcement of this. They just put it up

1118
01:15:48,760 --> 01:15:51,479
Speaker 5: on the website, and people caught up to it right

1119
01:15:51,479 --> 01:15:53,760
Speaker 5: The New York Times had to actually contact them to

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01:15:53,800 --> 01:15:56,960
Speaker 5: see if it was legit, and they said yes, we'd had,

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01:15:57,640 --> 01:16:01,640
Speaker 5: what was it, respectful and productive conversations with the administration.

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01:16:02,400 --> 01:16:06,680
Speaker 5: The US Olympic and Paralympic Committee is federally charted, so

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01:16:06,720 --> 01:16:09,479
Speaker 5: they kind of have to follow federal policies when it

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01:16:09,520 --> 01:16:13,600
Speaker 5: comes to how they operate. So they have been negotiating this,

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01:16:13,720 --> 01:16:15,280
Speaker 5: I guess, for the last few months with the Trump

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01:16:15,360 --> 01:16:17,800
Speaker 5: administration and have decided that they're going to come out

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01:16:18,080 --> 01:16:21,759
Speaker 5: in favor of what athletics had been prior to twenty

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Speaker 5: twenty or twenty nineteen or twenty twenty one, whatever it was,

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01:16:25,320 --> 01:16:30,679
Speaker 5: when they started allowing biological males to compete in female spaces. Literally,

1130
01:16:30,720 --> 01:16:33,360
Speaker 5: what we've done for tens of thousands of years until

1131
01:16:34,120 --> 01:16:37,240
Speaker 5: woke arrived and decided that there's no such thing as truth,

1132
01:16:37,280 --> 01:16:40,240
Speaker 5: there's no such thing as reality. We can be whoever

1133
01:16:40,280 --> 01:16:41,920
Speaker 5: we want to be, and everybody else has to play

1134
01:16:41,920 --> 01:16:44,880
Speaker 5: along with our delusions that finally seems to be coming

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Speaker 5: to an end. Now, remember this comes just one year

1136
01:16:48,640 --> 01:16:52,200
Speaker 5: after watching a male boxer beat the living crap out

1137
01:16:52,240 --> 01:16:55,360
Speaker 5: of a female in the ring in the Summer Olympics

1138
01:16:55,439 --> 01:16:58,840
Speaker 5: last year in France, I mean, and it shocked people

1139
01:16:58,880 --> 01:17:03,960
Speaker 5: that they allowed this to take place, And the boxer

1140
01:17:03,960 --> 01:17:06,800
Speaker 5: in question said, well, you know, my gender is in

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01:17:06,960 --> 01:17:08,200
Speaker 5: my sex is indeterminate.

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01:17:08,240 --> 01:17:08,680
Speaker 2: No, it's not.

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01:17:08,880 --> 01:17:09,439
Speaker 3: He's a male.

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01:17:10,640 --> 01:17:12,760
Speaker 5: He's fighting, he's fighting in female spaces, and it was

1145
01:17:12,800 --> 01:17:16,680
Speaker 5: clear to everybody watching this thing, and he ends up

1146
01:17:16,880 --> 01:17:19,960
Speaker 5: getting a medal because the next female boxer who was

1147
01:17:20,000 --> 01:17:22,120
Speaker 5: going to go up against him had to withdraw. She

1148
01:17:22,240 --> 01:17:27,080
Speaker 5: was she was intimidated out of competing because this could

1149
01:17:27,120 --> 01:17:31,120
Speaker 5: do serious permanent damage, not just in the sense that

1150
01:17:31,160 --> 01:17:33,360
Speaker 5: boxing is there's always a risk of that in boxing.

1151
01:17:33,760 --> 01:17:36,320
Speaker 5: It was a much higher risk when you put men

1152
01:17:36,360 --> 01:17:39,320
Speaker 5: in against women. And the reason why is because men

1153
01:17:39,439 --> 01:17:43,080
Speaker 5: have biological advantages over women in terms of strength, in

1154
01:17:43,160 --> 01:17:45,400
Speaker 5: terms of muscle mass, in terms of bone density, in

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01:17:45,479 --> 01:17:48,920
Speaker 5: terms of punching power in this particular sport. So this

1156
01:17:49,000 --> 01:17:52,519
Speaker 5: is that was just insanity. So I think in part

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01:17:53,080 --> 01:17:56,280
Speaker 5: the USO PC is reacting to what happened last year

1158
01:17:56,320 --> 01:18:00,519
Speaker 5: in the outrage that it that it creates. But I

1159
01:18:00,560 --> 01:18:03,519
Speaker 5: think but also because also because the Trump administration is

1160
01:18:03,560 --> 01:18:06,960
Speaker 5: telling everybody that the policy of this government is that

1161
01:18:07,000 --> 01:18:10,760
Speaker 5: there are two sexes and men should not be in

1162
01:18:10,800 --> 01:18:11,559
Speaker 5: women's spaces.

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Speaker 3: But the follow up to that is, I wonder where

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01:18:15,840 --> 01:18:18,200
Speaker 3: the carryover is. And that's the part where I'm seeing

1165
01:18:18,200 --> 01:18:20,880
Speaker 3: the normalcy. I understand because the Olympics are Los Angeles

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01:18:20,920 --> 01:18:22,720
Speaker 3: twenty twenty eight. Let's see if they can even put

1167
01:18:22,760 --> 01:18:26,920
Speaker 3: on an Olympics. They're in Los Angeles. But the wrinkle

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01:18:27,000 --> 01:18:33,360
Speaker 3: isn't it a massive wrinkle, incredible, incredible wrinkle, the kind

1169
01:18:33,360 --> 01:18:35,280
Speaker 3: of wrinkles Joan Rivers would have had if she hadn't

1170
01:18:35,280 --> 01:18:40,840
Speaker 3: found plastics. The story is what happens in twenty thirty

1171
01:18:41,040 --> 01:18:45,479
Speaker 3: in twenty thirty two with the Olympics, the carryover here.

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Speaker 3: So am I rushing to judgment on the idea of

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01:18:48,800 --> 01:18:52,160
Speaker 3: normal that the IOC, which is you know, never found

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01:18:52,160 --> 01:18:55,640
Speaker 3: a bribe, It didn't love. It could be swayed to

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01:18:56,439 --> 01:18:59,000
Speaker 3: going back to oh, sure men could be women and whatever.

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Speaker 3: We don't care. As this Olympics moves to other nations.

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Speaker 5: It's a possibility. I mean, it may still even be

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01:19:07,880 --> 01:19:11,320
Speaker 5: a possibility in Los Angeles, right, This is the USOPC

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01:19:11,720 --> 01:19:14,519
Speaker 5: may not be the controlling authority when it comes to

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01:19:14,560 --> 01:19:16,640
Speaker 5: the Olympics in Los Angeles, it's still going to be

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01:19:16,680 --> 01:19:20,160
Speaker 5: the IOC. Not to mention the fact that the you know,

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01:19:20,240 --> 01:19:23,439
Speaker 5: the governance in Los Angeles, in California is part of

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01:19:23,479 --> 01:19:29,320
Speaker 5: that whole radically woke, you know, activist stream that created

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01:19:29,320 --> 01:19:31,839
Speaker 5: this situation in the first place. I mean, Gavin Newsom

1185
01:19:32,080 --> 01:19:34,960
Speaker 5: finally admitted in March that it was deeply unfair to

1186
01:19:34,960 --> 01:19:37,759
Speaker 5: have males competing against females in sports and then proceeded

1187
01:19:37,760 --> 01:19:40,639
Speaker 5: to do absolutely nothing about it, and it's still refusing

1188
01:19:40,640 --> 01:19:43,840
Speaker 5: to do anything about it. Karen Bass is well, Karen

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01:19:43,840 --> 01:19:46,200
Speaker 5: Bass is just Karen Bass, and she's going to have

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01:19:46,240 --> 01:19:51,760
Speaker 5: problems anyway staging this Olympics, just simply because of the

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01:19:52,160 --> 01:19:58,400
Speaker 5: the law enforcement environment in Los Angeles, the tax environment

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01:19:58,439 --> 01:20:01,559
Speaker 5: in Los Angeles. There hiking the minimum wage in Los

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01:20:01,600 --> 01:20:03,960
Speaker 5: Angeles to a point where the hotels are now backing

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01:20:04,000 --> 01:20:07,520
Speaker 5: out of the deals that they made to offer discounts

1195
01:20:07,600 --> 01:20:11,960
Speaker 5: for Olympics travelers. So that's going to be a problem

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Speaker 5: when the Olympics arrived in was it three years and

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01:20:16,320 --> 01:20:18,679
Speaker 5: I'm not necessarily sure were that they're going to pull

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01:20:18,680 --> 01:20:22,320
Speaker 5: this off anyway. I'm still on a wait and see.

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Speaker 5: I was around for the eighty four Olympics. I was

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01:20:24,120 --> 01:20:28,080
Speaker 5: living in Los Angeles. I'm a native Angelino and the

1201
01:20:28,120 --> 01:20:31,920
Speaker 5: city did a marvelous job of pulling off of that

1202
01:20:31,960 --> 01:20:35,320
Speaker 5: particular olympiad. I don't think that that's going to be

1203
01:20:35,400 --> 01:20:37,160
Speaker 5: the cases time around. And you got to think the

1204
01:20:37,160 --> 01:20:38,960
Speaker 5: IOC is thinking the same thing. This might be an

1205
01:20:38,960 --> 01:20:40,280
Speaker 5: excuse for them to relocate it.

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01:20:40,960 --> 01:20:42,600
Speaker 3: I just don't know if they're going to relocate it

1207
01:20:42,640 --> 01:20:46,680
Speaker 3: out of the United States, that's the question. Talking to

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01:20:46,760 --> 01:20:49,920
Speaker 3: Ed Marscy of hotair dot com. So we don't know

1209
01:20:49,960 --> 01:20:53,040
Speaker 3: if we have normalcy here. We certainly don't have normalcy.

1210
01:20:53,280 --> 01:20:58,599
Speaker 3: In Late Night where Stephen Colbert after the announcement that

1211
01:20:58,760 --> 01:21:01,080
Speaker 3: the CBS was going to rid of the entire Late

1212
01:21:01,160 --> 01:21:04,320
Speaker 3: Night franchise, there was conversations about did the show lose

1213
01:21:04,360 --> 01:21:09,479
Speaker 3: forty million dollars. Colbert first says, hey, thank you, Tiffany Network,

1214
01:21:09,560 --> 01:21:13,559
Speaker 3: I love you so much, and then the next day says, oh,

1215
01:21:13,600 --> 01:21:17,559
Speaker 3: by the way, you paid Trump sixteen million dollars. You suck.

1216
01:21:18,160 --> 01:21:20,519
Speaker 3: The settlement that took place because of the edited video

1217
01:21:21,160 --> 01:21:25,040
Speaker 3: regarding Kamala Harris to which CBS was completely and totally

1218
01:21:25,479 --> 01:21:28,840
Speaker 3: in the wrong. Your argument, I've been discussing this. I

1219
01:21:28,880 --> 01:21:32,000
Speaker 3: think that CBS should end the show immediately. Don't let

1220
01:21:32,000 --> 01:21:34,320
Speaker 3: it drag on for ten months. The idea of whether

1221
01:21:34,360 --> 01:21:37,200
Speaker 3: or not Colbert is goding you into it is inconsequential.

1222
01:21:37,720 --> 01:21:41,200
Speaker 3: End it and end it now. Your argument is that

1223
01:21:41,240 --> 01:21:43,400
Speaker 3: this is the death of wit, whether it's Colbert or

1224
01:21:43,479 --> 01:21:47,840
Speaker 3: John Stewart and I have discussed things in and around this.

1225
01:21:48,520 --> 01:21:51,320
Speaker 3: You're saying that They're are the ones who are making

1226
01:21:51,320 --> 01:21:53,760
Speaker 3: the case for Paramount that there's no need for this

1227
01:21:53,840 --> 01:21:54,559
Speaker 3: show anymore.

1228
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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean John Stewart's entire response to this on

1229
01:22:01,600 --> 01:22:04,000
Speaker 5: his show. And this is also a Paramount show. It's

1230
01:22:04,040 --> 01:22:07,080
Speaker 5: on Comedy Central, which is owned by Paramount. Used to

1231
01:22:07,120 --> 01:22:08,760
Speaker 5: be by a com Now it's Paramount. Now it's gonna

1232
01:22:08,760 --> 01:22:11,519
Speaker 5: be sky Dance apparently down the road, although we'll probably

1233
01:22:11,600 --> 01:22:16,800
Speaker 5: keep the Paramount brand the same company though. And John

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01:22:16,840 --> 01:22:20,000
Speaker 5: Stewart goes on the show and does a gospel song

1235
01:22:20,160 --> 01:22:23,760
Speaker 5: that is entirely f you. That's the entire those are

1236
01:22:23,800 --> 01:22:24,280
Speaker 5: the lyrics.

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01:22:24,760 --> 01:22:29,960
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, oh no, absolutely right himself go blank yourself,

1238
01:22:30,040 --> 01:22:33,160
Speaker 3: go blank yourself, and the choirs behind them, and everybody

1239
01:22:33,240 --> 01:22:36,440
Speaker 3: is just having a good old time. Yeah.

1240
01:22:36,520 --> 01:22:39,000
Speaker 5: Well, John Stewart's having a good old time. Maybe that

1241
01:22:39,160 --> 01:22:41,360
Speaker 5: small audience in front of him is having a good

1242
01:22:41,360 --> 01:22:44,400
Speaker 5: old time. And that's the problem. The problem is that

1243
01:22:44,479 --> 01:22:47,479
Speaker 5: Late Night has curated its audience down to the radical

1244
01:22:47,560 --> 01:22:52,760
Speaker 5: activists that it's clearly pandering to, and has basically repelled

1245
01:22:52,880 --> 01:22:57,040
Speaker 5: everybody else. That's the reason why the Late Show was

1246
01:22:57,080 --> 01:22:59,479
Speaker 5: losing forty million dollars a year. The New York Times

1247
01:22:59,520 --> 01:23:02,360
Speaker 5: had this left last week. The Ankler had another piece

1248
01:23:02,400 --> 01:23:06,360
Speaker 5: on it late last night, saying that CBS had actually

1249
01:23:06,400 --> 01:23:09,960
Speaker 5: communicated or Paramount had actually communicated that they were going

1250
01:23:10,000 --> 01:23:14,760
Speaker 5: to end the show to Colbert's agent prior to the

1251
01:23:14,840 --> 01:23:19,320
Speaker 5: settlement a few days prior to it becoming known, they'd

1252
01:23:19,320 --> 01:23:21,679
Speaker 5: already made the decision, and it was a business decision.

1253
01:23:21,720 --> 01:23:24,679
Speaker 5: This is the Godfather line. It's not personal, Sonny, it's

1254
01:23:24,720 --> 01:23:27,719
Speaker 5: strictly business. And that's what this is. When you lose

1255
01:23:27,760 --> 01:23:31,320
Speaker 5: forty million dollars a year because you've curated your audience

1256
01:23:31,439 --> 01:23:37,200
Speaker 5: down to Antifa and your and your show million dollars

1257
01:23:37,240 --> 01:23:40,760
Speaker 5: a year, you're not going to You're not going to

1258
01:23:40,800 --> 01:23:44,400
Speaker 5: survive very long. And to your point about you know

1259
01:23:44,680 --> 01:23:47,439
Speaker 5: why they're letting this guy go on. There was a

1260
01:23:47,520 --> 01:23:51,120
Speaker 5: little tradition of this in Late Night, right Johnny Carson

1261
01:23:51,160 --> 01:23:53,920
Speaker 5: got got a year, Jay Leno got a year. I

1262
01:23:53,920 --> 01:23:56,559
Speaker 5: think David Letterman didn't.

1263
01:23:56,320 --> 01:23:58,800
Speaker 3: Get a year. Conan got nothing.

1264
01:24:00,040 --> 01:24:02,000
Speaker 5: Yeah, Conin didn't get a year. But you know, you

1265
01:24:02,080 --> 01:24:04,400
Speaker 5: and I have been in the broad in and around

1266
01:24:04,400 --> 01:24:09,400
Speaker 5: the broadcast industry. People don't realize how unusual that is

1267
01:24:09,720 --> 01:24:13,400
Speaker 5: when you get when you lose your show. They've locked

1268
01:24:13,400 --> 01:24:15,800
Speaker 5: your studio up, They put your stuff out in the

1269
01:24:15,880 --> 01:24:18,040
Speaker 5: box on the sidewalk and said, hope you have a

1270
01:24:18,080 --> 01:24:20,679
Speaker 5: good life. I mean, they don't give you even an

1271
01:24:20,760 --> 01:24:23,960
Speaker 5: hour to go to your audience and say, well, it's

1272
01:24:24,040 --> 01:24:26,720
Speaker 5: been it's been real And on the rare occasions that

1273
01:24:26,840 --> 01:24:29,800
Speaker 5: it has occurred, almost always they live to regret it,

1274
01:24:29,880 --> 01:24:32,360
Speaker 5: because what does a host get up and do. Oh,

1275
01:24:32,439 --> 01:24:35,479
Speaker 5: I can't believe this company's firing me. Call in, call in,

1276
01:24:35,560 --> 01:24:38,479
Speaker 5: tell me why you think that I'm great? The that's

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Speaker 5: what That's what Colbert is doing right now. It's predictable.

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01:24:42,360 --> 01:24:48,919
Speaker 3: Talking to Ed Morrissey of hotair dot com, there's there's

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01:24:48,960 --> 01:24:53,760
Speaker 3: the story about how they have dismantled their audience. One

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01:24:53,800 --> 01:24:56,360
Speaker 3: of the things not discussed is how all these late

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01:24:56,439 --> 01:25:00,320
Speaker 3: night hosts clearly were in concert with one another to

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01:25:00,360 --> 01:25:02,800
Speaker 3: try and out do one another. Never try and be

1283
01:25:02,960 --> 01:25:07,000
Speaker 3: too much. Doesn't matter who's number one, say the same

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01:25:07,120 --> 01:25:11,200
Speaker 3: things and take the money. No interest in competition, only

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01:25:11,200 --> 01:25:16,040
Speaker 3: an interest in the political ideology. Is it you? It

1286
01:25:16,200 --> 01:25:18,720
Speaker 3: is my belief that this is the first of the

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01:25:18,760 --> 01:25:22,880
Speaker 3: dominoes to fall in late night is their room? Is

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01:25:22,920 --> 01:25:26,960
Speaker 3: their room for late night TV? In today's America, not

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01:25:27,000 --> 01:25:28,680
Speaker 3: in the way it's structured right now. And I'll tell

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01:25:28,680 --> 01:25:30,000
Speaker 3: you the only one that's.

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01:25:29,680 --> 01:25:32,840
Speaker 5: Actually working is Gutfield, and it's a different show.

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01:25:32,680 --> 01:25:33,160
Speaker 3: Much different.

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01:25:33,200 --> 01:25:33,320
Speaker 8: You know.

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01:25:33,320 --> 01:25:36,120
Speaker 5: People say, well, Gutfield's doing it and it's because he's conservative. No,

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01:25:36,200 --> 01:25:38,200
Speaker 5: Gutfeld has a different show. He's got a panel show.

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01:25:38,720 --> 01:25:42,840
Speaker 5: Panel shows. Panel shows work. First off, they're very low costs.

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Speaker 5: And I don't know if you got this, but I

1298
01:25:44,439 --> 01:25:48,720
Speaker 5: got a pr email from Fox this week saying, oh,

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01:25:48,800 --> 01:25:51,320
Speaker 5: you know, you know, Colbert has two hundred staffers and

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01:25:51,360 --> 01:25:53,600
Speaker 5: it costs you one hundred million dollars a year to

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01:25:53,600 --> 01:25:57,280
Speaker 5: produce the show. You know, Greg's only got twenty staff

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01:25:57,360 --> 01:26:00,160
Speaker 5: or less than twenty staffers, and it costs you know,

1303
01:26:00,520 --> 01:26:03,120
Speaker 5: somewhere in the eight figure or to me seven figure

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01:26:03,240 --> 01:26:05,479
Speaker 5: range a year to produce that show. Yeah, you can

1305
01:26:05,520 --> 01:26:08,360
Speaker 5: do that. I mean, the ad revenue will support a

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01:26:08,360 --> 01:26:12,280
Speaker 5: show like that. The problem with late night the other

1307
01:26:12,360 --> 01:26:14,479
Speaker 5: parts of the late night genre is that people can

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01:26:14,520 --> 01:26:18,040
Speaker 5: get stand up comedy riffs and celebrity fixes from social

1309
01:26:18,120 --> 01:26:21,439
Speaker 5: media and YouTube. It's real easy. You don't need to go,

1310
01:26:21,520 --> 01:26:24,160
Speaker 5: you don't need to stay up till eleven thirty Eastern

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01:26:24,240 --> 01:26:29,040
Speaker 5: time to watch this on Colbert or Kimmel or fallon.

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01:26:29,680 --> 01:26:30,679
Speaker 3: You just go to YouTube.

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01:26:30,680 --> 01:26:33,320
Speaker 5: You go to the start the celebrities Instagram accounts and

1314
01:26:33,680 --> 01:26:38,240
Speaker 5: watch their reels and then you know, click on YouTube's

1315
01:26:38,320 --> 01:26:42,360
Speaker 5: shorts to see, you know, various different comedians do their thing.

1316
01:26:42,520 --> 01:26:43,760
Speaker 3: You know, I'm kind of addicted to.

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01:26:43,800 --> 01:26:47,719
Speaker 5: Dave Chappelle's you know, comedy bits on YouTube is great,

1318
01:26:48,600 --> 01:26:50,040
Speaker 5: So I don't need to tune in for that. I

1319
01:26:50,240 --> 01:26:51,360
Speaker 5: can do that on my own time.

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01:26:51,439 --> 01:26:54,559
Speaker 3: And certainly we are past the point where late night

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01:26:54,800 --> 01:27:00,640
Speaker 3: makes a career. What made Johnny Carson's show beyond touchstone

1322
01:27:00,640 --> 01:27:03,759
Speaker 3: a cultural touchstone is that careers were made or broken

1323
01:27:04,240 --> 01:27:07,280
Speaker 3: based on the three minute set you did on Johnny Carson.

1324
01:27:07,320 --> 01:27:09,640
Speaker 3: Just being invited on too Johnny Carson meant you were

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01:27:09,640 --> 01:27:11,679
Speaker 3: going to get booked. If you did well on Johnny Carson,

1326
01:27:11,840 --> 01:27:13,599
Speaker 3: you were going to be a headliner for six months.

1327
01:27:13,640 --> 01:27:16,120
Speaker 3: If for some chance you got to sit down on

1328
01:27:16,160 --> 01:27:18,840
Speaker 3: the couch, you had a career. It was done, it

1329
01:27:18,880 --> 01:27:21,439
Speaker 3: was complete, and it was finished. And certainly that has

1330
01:27:21,479 --> 01:27:25,080
Speaker 3: gone away in a world of YouTube. When we talk

1331
01:27:25,120 --> 01:27:28,840
Speaker 3: about being normal, the normal late night host who looks

1332
01:27:28,840 --> 01:27:31,160
Speaker 3: at the millions of dollars they're getting in the audience

1333
01:27:31,680 --> 01:27:34,120
Speaker 3: that they have an opportunity to reach, says, how can

1334
01:27:34,160 --> 01:27:38,120
Speaker 3: I reach then serve that audience best? In every case

1335
01:27:38,160 --> 01:27:41,400
Speaker 3: the late night host said no to that. I am

1336
01:27:41,479 --> 01:27:45,519
Speaker 3: opposed to that. I am not interested in that, and

1337
01:27:45,560 --> 01:27:49,320
Speaker 3: they brought about their own destruction. That's a weird thing

1338
01:27:49,439 --> 01:27:53,679
Speaker 3: to see happen. It's very weird for somebody in show business,

1339
01:27:53,680 --> 01:27:56,320
Speaker 3: where the business parts is more important than the show.

1340
01:27:56,920 --> 01:27:59,599
Speaker 3: It's weird for them to say, how do I self

1341
01:27:59,640 --> 01:28:03,040
Speaker 3: imm al right here in front of everybody? How do

1342
01:28:03,120 --> 01:28:05,800
Speaker 3: I end this? And the only thing I can come

1343
01:28:05,880 --> 01:28:09,599
Speaker 3: to is that they the late night host is in

1344
01:28:09,840 --> 01:28:13,360
Speaker 3: a set of full belief that the people who run

1345
01:28:13,360 --> 01:28:16,720
Speaker 3: the networks are with them. This is what they want

1346
01:28:16,800 --> 01:28:19,639
Speaker 3: and there would never be a moment where they were

1347
01:28:19,680 --> 01:28:23,559
Speaker 3: at risk. Do they now make a change or is

1348
01:28:23,560 --> 01:28:25,160
Speaker 3: it too late? The die is cast?

1349
01:28:26,960 --> 01:28:28,840
Speaker 5: I think the die is cast, but I think it's

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01:28:28,960 --> 01:28:31,440
Speaker 5: I think it's first off, I think that the audience

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01:28:31,800 --> 01:28:35,000
Speaker 5: repellence is permanent. I don't think you're going to have

1352
01:28:35,120 --> 01:28:37,920
Speaker 5: anybody but the activist tuning in Saturday Night Life has

1353
01:28:37,920 --> 01:28:40,280
Speaker 5: the same problem. It's just that I think that the

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01:28:40,760 --> 01:28:43,880
Speaker 5: costs are significantly lower because they only do it once

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01:28:43,920 --> 01:28:46,400
Speaker 5: a week too. I mean, so that's a that's a

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01:28:46,400 --> 01:28:48,600
Speaker 5: part of this. I mean, that's a you know, the

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01:28:48,680 --> 01:28:52,200
Speaker 5: Late Show was, you know, five days a week, forty

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01:28:52,240 --> 01:28:54,719
Speaker 5: eight weeks out of the year. I'm sure that Colbert

1359
01:28:54,800 --> 01:28:57,000
Speaker 5: got four weeks of vacation or so, or maybe they

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01:28:57,080 --> 01:29:00,439
Speaker 5: brought in guest hosts during his vacation. But that's I mean,

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01:29:00,439 --> 01:29:03,080
Speaker 5: it just is It's going to be expensive. That's part

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01:29:03,120 --> 01:29:05,680
Speaker 5: of the that's part of the structural problem here. So

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01:29:05,720 --> 01:29:11,200
Speaker 5: they've lost that audience and frankly, everybody knows that they

1364
01:29:11,200 --> 01:29:14,559
Speaker 5: can get this same type of content much cheaper. You know.

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01:29:14,600 --> 01:29:16,680
Speaker 5: One of the reasons why it might not be so

1366
01:29:16,800 --> 01:29:22,120
Speaker 5: immediate at NBC and ABC is both Fallon and Kimmel

1367
01:29:22,600 --> 01:29:27,880
Speaker 5: have done a pretty good job of integrating YouTube and

1368
01:29:27,920 --> 01:29:30,479
Speaker 5: social media streams too into what they do. And apparently

1369
01:29:30,560 --> 01:29:33,040
Speaker 5: Colbert just was an old dog who wouldn't learn that

1370
01:29:33,120 --> 01:29:38,200
Speaker 5: new trick. But Kimmel and Fallon have been better at it.

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01:29:38,360 --> 01:29:43,559
Speaker 5: They've also cut costs ABC and NBC. ABC and NBC,

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01:29:43,640 --> 01:29:46,880
Speaker 5: excuse me, have cut costs on those shows. I think

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01:29:46,920 --> 01:29:49,040
Speaker 5: both of them only run four nights a week now,

1374
01:29:49,200 --> 01:29:53,519
Speaker 5: Monday through Thursday, and one of them lost the band.

1375
01:29:53,520 --> 01:29:55,120
Speaker 5: I forget which one of them lost the band.

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01:29:56,200 --> 01:29:56,600
Speaker 3: I don't know.

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01:29:56,640 --> 01:29:59,559
Speaker 5: I don't watch either on reducing costs, but they have

1378
01:29:59,640 --> 01:30:03,639
Speaker 5: the same problem advertiser fallof advertisers just simply aren't interested

1379
01:30:03,680 --> 01:30:07,280
Speaker 5: in it because the audience keeps shrinking, and that's going

1380
01:30:07,360 --> 01:30:11,240
Speaker 5: to continue, and I think within maybe even by the

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01:30:11,400 --> 01:30:15,640
Speaker 5: end of the supposed run of Colbert, both Kimmel and

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01:30:15,680 --> 01:30:17,920
Speaker 5: Fallon will be looking for something else to do.

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01:30:18,080 --> 01:30:20,479
Speaker 3: Okay, and I'm on record that this is the first

1384
01:30:20,520 --> 01:30:24,160
Speaker 3: domino to fall talking to Ed Marsci of hotair dot com.

1385
01:30:24,200 --> 01:30:26,360
Speaker 3: But I want to get into where I think there's

1386
01:30:26,400 --> 01:30:30,200
Speaker 3: an error in the argument, which is we are making

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01:30:30,280 --> 01:30:33,960
Speaker 3: a statement through this that this is the end of

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01:30:34,040 --> 01:30:36,440
Speaker 3: late night. Certainly, late night does not have the cultural

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01:30:36,680 --> 01:30:38,960
Speaker 3: connection that it used to have. Late night does not

1390
01:30:39,000 --> 01:30:41,679
Speaker 3: create careers like it used to. There are a tremendous

1391
01:30:41,800 --> 01:30:45,439
Speaker 3: number of options and the bifurcation of all content, and

1392
01:30:45,520 --> 01:30:48,479
Speaker 3: you have what these hosts did to themselves and did

1393
01:30:48,560 --> 01:30:51,599
Speaker 3: to the audience in showing every day how they hate

1394
01:30:51,840 --> 01:30:54,679
Speaker 3: half of America and how they weren't interested in being funny.

1395
01:30:54,880 --> 01:30:58,080
Speaker 3: They were only interested in being on the attack. More

1396
01:30:58,120 --> 01:31:03,479
Speaker 3: of my interview with Ed, including the conversation around whether

1397
01:31:03,680 --> 01:31:07,160
Speaker 3: the Jeffrey Epstein files is jump the shark and who's

1398
01:31:07,200 --> 01:31:09,960
Speaker 3: responsible for that happening. It's all coming up. Keep it here.

1399
01:31:10,160 --> 01:31:14,519
Speaker 3: This is Tony Katz today. So have we reached the

1400
01:31:14,600 --> 01:31:18,960
Speaker 3: silly season regarding Jeffrey Epstein? This was my fear. I

1401
01:31:19,120 --> 01:31:23,240
Speaker 3: wanted the information. Everybody else was playing politics. We wanted

1402
01:31:23,240 --> 01:31:25,599
Speaker 3: to know what was happening. Everybody else want to figure

1403
01:31:25,640 --> 01:31:28,280
Speaker 3: out how they could build some kind of political fiefdom

1404
01:31:28,360 --> 01:31:30,360
Speaker 3: out of it all. And the next thing, you know,

1405
01:31:30,439 --> 01:31:33,839
Speaker 3: you get to a place where every conversation about Jeffrey

1406
01:31:33,840 --> 01:31:37,080
Speaker 3: Epstein is, oh, Trump's didn't do this, or Trump's hiding this,

1407
01:31:37,479 --> 01:31:41,439
Speaker 3: and oh, how do we attack Republicans here? And man,

1408
01:31:41,760 --> 01:31:45,280
Speaker 3: it hasn't affected MAGA in the slightest Tony Katz, Tony

1409
01:31:45,360 --> 01:31:47,679
Speaker 3: Katz today, Good to be with you. I was having

1410
01:31:47,720 --> 01:31:51,720
Speaker 3: this conversation with Ed Morrissey from hotair dot com specifically

1411
01:31:51,800 --> 01:31:56,200
Speaker 3: about how MAGA and Trump's supporters are all around. They

1412
01:31:56,240 --> 01:32:00,000
Speaker 3: may disagree with how Trump handled Epstein, how Pambondi handled Epstein,

1413
01:32:00,080 --> 01:32:04,880
Speaker 3: and how Republicans handled Epstein, but they're not leaving Trump's side.

1414
01:32:05,320 --> 01:32:07,960
Speaker 3: They're not voting for whoever it is, the left to sides.

1415
01:32:08,000 --> 01:32:10,280
Speaker 3: But up there they're not now in favor of Democrats.

1416
01:32:10,680 --> 01:32:14,720
Speaker 3: That's just not happening at all. We get to that conversation.

1417
01:32:14,840 --> 01:32:17,840
Speaker 3: But I started by continuing this conversation about Late Night

1418
01:32:18,400 --> 01:32:20,760
Speaker 3: and of course the end of Stephen Colbert, and rightfully so,

1419
01:32:20,800 --> 01:32:25,559
Speaker 3: and they should fire him right now. But is it

1420
01:32:25,680 --> 01:32:29,280
Speaker 3: that late night makes no money or is that these people,

1421
01:32:29,800 --> 01:32:33,640
Speaker 3: these hosts, make no money? And what are these networks

1422
01:32:33,680 --> 01:32:37,439
Speaker 3: cable are otherwise now going to do with this time?

1423
01:32:38,120 --> 01:32:43,120
Speaker 3: That is different than whether or not the networks, even

1424
01:32:43,200 --> 01:32:47,000
Speaker 3: cable networks see a value in late night property. If

1425
01:32:47,040 --> 01:32:51,760
Speaker 3: you're not engaged in some kind of conversational mill, U,

1426
01:32:52,800 --> 01:32:55,200
Speaker 3: what are you doing with the time? It's reruns of

1427
01:32:55,200 --> 01:32:59,680
Speaker 3: gun Smoke, by the Way, Gun Smoke, Bravo and the

1428
01:32:59,760 --> 01:33:01,960
Speaker 3: Rough and it's a little something. No, yeah, all right,

1429
01:33:02,000 --> 01:33:06,000
Speaker 3: forget it. The the the real the question comes to

1430
01:33:06,200 --> 01:33:10,040
Speaker 3: a business one. Not of this costs us way too

1431
01:33:10,120 --> 01:33:12,160
Speaker 3: much for what we get back out of it. Let's

1432
01:33:12,160 --> 01:33:14,080
Speaker 3: put an end to that. And I don't believe this

1433
01:33:14,120 --> 01:33:16,120
Speaker 3: has anything to do with Trump and the settlements at all.

1434
01:33:16,960 --> 01:33:20,040
Speaker 3: But does the network now say and the cable news

1435
01:33:20,040 --> 01:33:24,040
Speaker 3: operator now say there's no value to having a unique

1436
01:33:24,080 --> 01:33:28,479
Speaker 3: bit of programming here, just play more news because three

1437
01:33:28,560 --> 01:33:33,599
Speaker 3: people yelling at Scott Jennings is good enough. It might

1438
01:33:33,760 --> 01:33:34,479
Speaker 3: be good enough.

1439
01:33:34,479 --> 01:33:37,440
Speaker 5: It's certainly in terms of, you know, return on an investment,

1440
01:33:38,400 --> 01:33:41,400
Speaker 5: because it's a lot less of an investment. Sure, look,

1441
01:33:41,640 --> 01:33:43,479
Speaker 5: I think that they're gonna fill the airtime with something,

1442
01:33:43,479 --> 01:33:45,080
Speaker 5: but you could do the same thing by just having

1443
01:33:45,160 --> 01:33:49,040
Speaker 5: like a stand up comedy hour and with somebody heavy

1444
01:33:49,080 --> 01:33:52,720
Speaker 5: on the bleeping right, you know, or just say, hey,

1445
01:33:52,760 --> 01:33:56,200
Speaker 5: this is after this, after ten pm, and we're just

1446
01:33:56,240 --> 01:33:58,639
Speaker 5: gonna we're just gonna, you know, Rod dog it out

1447
01:33:58,680 --> 01:34:01,240
Speaker 5: here for an hour with stand up comedians Kasha heck

1448
01:34:01,280 --> 01:34:03,240
Speaker 5: of a lot less to do that. Production costs would

1449
01:34:03,240 --> 01:34:06,679
Speaker 5: be minimal, and you'd probably get more interest from people

1450
01:34:06,720 --> 01:34:11,960
Speaker 5: because at least if you're inviting a fairly decent mix

1451
01:34:12,040 --> 01:34:15,240
Speaker 5: of comedians, right, variety of approaches might be it might

1452
01:34:15,280 --> 01:34:18,800
Speaker 5: be worth doing. But you know, it's sort of like

1453
01:34:18,840 --> 01:34:23,560
Speaker 5: the it was a Don Kirshner's uh rock thing that

1454
01:34:23,600 --> 01:34:25,559
Speaker 5: they were used to do on Friday nights back in

1455
01:34:25,560 --> 01:34:28,640
Speaker 5: the seventies, sixties and seventies. You know, featuring new, up

1456
01:34:28,640 --> 01:34:30,280
Speaker 5: and coming new bands. You could do something like that,

1457
01:34:30,320 --> 01:34:32,280
Speaker 5: and you do up and coming new bands if there's

1458
01:34:32,400 --> 01:34:37,600
Speaker 5: any such thing anymore that don't use auto tune. But

1459
01:34:37,640 --> 01:34:39,400
Speaker 5: the point is is whatever is going to go up

1460
01:34:39,439 --> 01:34:42,120
Speaker 5: there is going to be a much lower cost, probably

1461
01:34:42,120 --> 01:34:46,200
Speaker 5: won't be host centered, probably won't have a whole lot

1462
01:34:46,280 --> 01:34:50,360
Speaker 5: of explicit politics in terms of a monologue that you

1463
01:34:50,400 --> 01:34:53,160
Speaker 5: know leads in every single night. You won't see dex

1464
01:34:53,400 --> 01:34:59,240
Speaker 5: you know, dancing vaccines on the stage. I mean, I

1465
01:34:59,240 --> 01:35:01,439
Speaker 5: mean that that was the jump the shark, you know,

1466
01:35:01,560 --> 01:35:05,400
Speaker 5: nuke the fridge moment for Stephen Colbert. Anyway, But you know,

1467
01:35:05,439 --> 01:35:08,519
Speaker 5: the point about not being about Trump is is worth

1468
01:35:08,720 --> 01:35:11,240
Speaker 5: hitting one more time. If this was about Trump, they

1469
01:35:11,240 --> 01:35:13,680
Speaker 5: would have shut down the show. At the time of

1470
01:35:13,680 --> 01:35:16,360
Speaker 5: the settlement, it's not about Trump. They were going to

1471
01:35:16,400 --> 01:35:19,160
Speaker 5: give this guy a ten month off for him to

1472
01:35:19,400 --> 01:35:23,000
Speaker 5: have a classy exit so that he could be dignified.

1473
01:35:23,000 --> 01:35:25,880
Speaker 5: He could fill out his contract, he could he could complete,

1474
01:35:26,240 --> 01:35:29,240
Speaker 5: you know, stick the landing sort of thing. I'm not

1475
01:35:29,280 --> 01:35:31,599
Speaker 5: sure that this thing survives past this week or next

1476
01:35:31,600 --> 01:35:34,400
Speaker 5: week because he keeps inviting guests on now that are

1477
01:35:34,439 --> 01:35:37,120
Speaker 5: going on and on about what a martyr. Stephen Colbert

1478
01:35:37,240 --> 01:35:41,040
Speaker 5: is for free speech right, and you know how paramount stinks.

1479
01:35:41,080 --> 01:35:42,920
Speaker 5: I don't think you're going to spend one hundred million

1480
01:35:42,960 --> 01:35:46,919
Speaker 5: dollars or whatever the ten month pro rate cost structure

1481
01:35:47,080 --> 01:35:49,720
Speaker 5: is for that. Maybe you know, eighty million dollars to

1482
01:35:49,800 --> 01:35:52,040
Speaker 5: do brand derogation five nights a week.

1483
01:35:52,360 --> 01:35:54,600
Speaker 3: I got to assume there's a little bit of this

1484
01:35:54,840 --> 01:35:56,960
Speaker 3: having to deal with the unions that work on that show,

1485
01:35:57,000 --> 01:36:00,120
Speaker 3: and how you give those guys a soft landing as well.

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Speaker 3: Talking to Edmarscy of hotair dot com, and I'll tell

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Speaker 3: you if they want some late night programming, I have

1488
01:36:05,280 --> 01:36:09,679
Speaker 3: a fantastic variety program. They're singing, there's dancing, there's juggling,

1489
01:36:10,160 --> 01:36:13,479
Speaker 3: there's acts with water. You know what I call the show?

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01:36:14,840 --> 01:36:17,599
Speaker 5: No no, no clue, no notes. What do you call

1491
01:36:17,640 --> 01:36:18,000
Speaker 5: the show?

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01:36:18,240 --> 01:36:23,840
Speaker 3: The Aristocrats? God? That felt good.

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01:36:23,880 --> 01:36:24,360
Speaker 5: I'm not sure.

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01:36:24,479 --> 01:36:25,080
Speaker 3: I'm not sure.

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01:36:25,120 --> 01:36:26,760
Speaker 5: I'm not sure your audience is going to get that.

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01:36:26,960 --> 01:36:29,680
Speaker 3: Oh yes they will for the greatest audience in all

1497
01:36:29,720 --> 01:36:33,280
Speaker 3: of radio and video and TV right here. Oh they

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01:36:33,360 --> 01:36:36,040
Speaker 3: got it. Oh oh that felt good.

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Speaker 5: Acts.

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Speaker 3: I do want to hit one more subject with you,

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Speaker 3: Edmarcy of hotair dot com and that is that of

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01:36:45,800 --> 01:36:49,599
Speaker 3: Jeffrey Epstein. By the way, only I Tony Katz could

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01:36:49,600 --> 01:36:53,200
Speaker 3: go from the aristocrats to Jeffrey Epstein in the same sentence.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's a pretty it's a pretty good segue, actually, though,

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01:36:56,960 --> 01:36:59,479
Speaker 5: I give you high marks for the sege as well.

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01:36:59,479 --> 01:37:05,000
Speaker 3: Try that in the I am one of the people

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01:37:05,040 --> 01:37:08,040
Speaker 3: who argued that it's important and imperative that the information

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01:37:08,080 --> 01:37:10,560
Speaker 3: about Epstein be released. I think Pambondi has done a

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01:37:10,640 --> 01:37:12,760
Speaker 3: terrible job with the release. I think the giving the

1510
01:37:12,800 --> 01:37:16,400
Speaker 3: binders a so called influencers was embarrassing. I think President

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01:37:16,439 --> 01:37:18,599
Speaker 3: Trump had a rare missed up when he's saying why

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01:37:18,600 --> 01:37:21,160
Speaker 3: are we talking about Epstein and going after his own supporters.

1513
01:37:21,400 --> 01:37:24,960
Speaker 3: It was a mistake. Promises made, Promises must be kept.

1514
01:37:25,200 --> 01:37:28,599
Speaker 3: This information about this child predator, who was involved with him,

1515
01:37:28,760 --> 01:37:31,040
Speaker 3: this is stuff we want to know. We cannot have

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01:37:31,160 --> 01:37:33,720
Speaker 3: two Americas where some people can get away with the

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01:37:33,760 --> 01:37:37,200
Speaker 3: most awful things in the world and some people can't

1518
01:37:37,200 --> 01:37:39,720
Speaker 3: get away with not paying their parking ticket. I'm not

1519
01:37:39,920 --> 01:37:43,479
Speaker 3: interested in that American I do believe that a lot

1520
01:37:43,479 --> 01:37:47,160
Speaker 3: of this got misplayed by the Trump administration. All of

1521
01:37:47,200 --> 01:37:50,719
Speaker 3: that said, the House has to now go into recess

1522
01:37:50,720 --> 01:37:55,800
Speaker 3: a day early because the Democrats want to play politics

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01:37:56,000 --> 01:37:59,160
Speaker 3: with the Epstein files. Even though President Trump already told

1524
01:37:59,200 --> 01:38:02,400
Speaker 3: Pambondi to get court permission and release what you can,

1525
01:38:02,760 --> 01:38:05,719
Speaker 3: Democrats want to say release everything and want to push

1526
01:38:05,760 --> 01:38:08,479
Speaker 3: this to a vote so Republicans could vote no on it,

1527
01:38:08,520 --> 01:38:10,920
Speaker 3: so they could say, oh, look, Republicans are trying to

1528
01:38:10,960 --> 01:38:13,280
Speaker 3: hide the Epstein files. Well, they didn't care about the

1529
01:38:13,280 --> 01:38:17,439
Speaker 3: Epstein files for four years. It is, have we now

1530
01:38:17,520 --> 01:38:21,440
Speaker 3: hit the moment ed of Epstein's silliness. I want the information,

1531
01:38:22,160 --> 01:38:24,559
Speaker 3: and these people who are supposed to be our leaders

1532
01:38:24,600 --> 01:38:27,400
Speaker 3: don't seem to give a damn about anything except how

1533
01:38:27,439 --> 01:38:30,080
Speaker 3: they can get some weird political victory that lasts all

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01:38:30,080 --> 01:38:32,920
Speaker 3: of five minutes. Yeah, it was.

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Speaker 5: It's the one really big fumble so far in the

1536
01:38:36,160 --> 01:38:39,479
Speaker 5: Trump administration, is the whole Epstein thing. They're the ones

1537
01:38:39,520 --> 01:38:41,720
Speaker 5: that stirred the pot, right, They're the ones that came

1538
01:38:41,720 --> 01:38:43,760
Speaker 5: out and said, we're going to blow the lid off

1539
01:38:43,760 --> 01:38:45,400
Speaker 5: of this. We're going to name the names, we're going

1540
01:38:45,439 --> 01:38:47,320
Speaker 5: to release the client list. Well, there's no such thing

1541
01:38:47,360 --> 01:38:50,120
Speaker 5: as a client list. As it turns out, the binders

1542
01:38:50,120 --> 01:38:52,559
Speaker 5: were full of stuff that we had already been released,

1543
01:38:53,320 --> 01:38:54,960
Speaker 5: and they knew it at the time. They asked the

1544
01:38:55,000 --> 01:38:58,040
Speaker 5: influencers involved to just, you know, just just keep me

1545
01:38:58,160 --> 01:38:59,920
Speaker 5: kind of quiet right now. But the stuff has come.

1546
01:39:00,160 --> 01:39:05,920
Speaker 5: The stuff is coming. It's not ready yet. The stuff

1547
01:39:05,960 --> 01:39:08,880
Speaker 5: that they're talking about is actually grand jury testimony. For

1548
01:39:08,920 --> 01:39:12,960
Speaker 5: the most part, it's grand jury testimony, and it's under

1549
01:39:13,040 --> 01:39:15,840
Speaker 5: sealed because one of the cases is still active, the

1550
01:39:15,880 --> 01:39:18,640
Speaker 5: case against Delane Maxwell, is that the Supreme Court right

1551
01:39:18,680 --> 01:39:21,519
Speaker 5: now there is a potential that the Supreme Court could

1552
01:39:21,600 --> 01:39:23,360
Speaker 5: order a new trial, which means that you have to

1553
01:39:23,840 --> 01:39:27,040
Speaker 5: go back through the whole process. So federal judges are

1554
01:39:27,080 --> 01:39:31,160
Speaker 5: not usually interested in releasing grand jury testimony anyway, especially

1555
01:39:31,200 --> 01:39:35,000
Speaker 5: when it contains so much information about underage victims of

1556
01:39:35,040 --> 01:39:39,680
Speaker 5: sex trafficking. That's another wrinkle that's in this. The judges

1557
01:39:39,840 --> 01:39:44,000
Speaker 5: yesterday are late last night, i believe, told the Department

1558
01:39:44,040 --> 01:39:47,799
Speaker 5: of Justice, both judges who are who have this testimony

1559
01:39:47,840 --> 01:39:50,439
Speaker 5: under seal that they want more information about what it

1560
01:39:50,479 --> 01:39:53,240
Speaker 5: is that they want released because there is some really

1561
01:39:55,080 --> 01:39:57,679
Speaker 5: humiliating information in here when it comes to the victims,

1562
01:39:57,720 --> 01:39:59,680
Speaker 5: and they don't think that it's a great idea to

1563
01:39:59,680 --> 01:40:03,080
Speaker 5: put the out in the public, not only that, but

1564
01:40:03,120 --> 01:40:05,360
Speaker 5: grand jury testimony is really one sided. It's just a

1565
01:40:05,400 --> 01:40:08,560
Speaker 5: prosecutor putting on it's hearsay ends up in THEIRS. A

1566
01:40:08,600 --> 01:40:12,680
Speaker 5: lot of this stuff hasn't been necessarily confirmed or corroborated.

1567
01:40:12,960 --> 01:40:16,240
Speaker 5: You run the risk of smearing people who haven't actually

1568
01:40:16,360 --> 01:40:18,840
Speaker 5: done anything wrong. And Alan Dershowitz should know that better

1569
01:40:18,880 --> 01:40:21,679
Speaker 5: than anybody. He wants it all released because he says,

1570
01:40:21,880 --> 01:40:23,720
Speaker 5: just get it all out there so everybody can have

1571
01:40:23,760 --> 01:40:27,160
Speaker 5: this discussion. But this is what judges are looking at,

1572
01:40:27,160 --> 01:40:29,280
Speaker 5: so there's not much to release. To the point now

1573
01:40:29,280 --> 01:40:31,439
Speaker 5: where you've got the Deputy Attorney General of the United

1574
01:40:31,479 --> 01:40:33,880
Speaker 5: States who wants to have a meeting with Glainne Maxwell

1575
01:40:34,040 --> 01:40:36,280
Speaker 5: to see if if she's willing to testify to what

1576
01:40:36,360 --> 01:40:41,040
Speaker 5: she knows. This is the sex trafficker. She's the one

1577
01:40:41,160 --> 01:40:44,080
Speaker 5: who was doing most of the dirty work for Jeffrey Epstein.

1578
01:40:44,200 --> 01:40:46,439
Speaker 5: She was finding the girls, she was bringing the girls

1579
01:40:46,439 --> 01:40:49,240
Speaker 5: to him. And it's worth noting that that's the only

1580
01:40:49,280 --> 01:40:51,559
Speaker 5: thing that she was convicted of, was trafficking girls to

1581
01:40:51,680 --> 01:40:55,360
Speaker 5: Jeffrey Epstein, not to anybody else, but just to Jeffrey Epstein.

1582
01:40:55,680 --> 01:40:57,720
Speaker 5: And that was enough. That's all it took to get

1583
01:40:57,760 --> 01:41:01,080
Speaker 5: her twenty years in prison. So all of this I

1584
01:41:01,120 --> 01:41:04,640
Speaker 5: think is a distraction. But it's a distraction that the

1585
01:41:04,640 --> 01:41:08,880
Speaker 5: Trump administration created, Pam Bondi especially, and it is a

1586
01:41:08,960 --> 01:41:11,679
Speaker 5: huge mistake. You never promised something that you can't deliver.

1587
01:41:12,600 --> 01:41:15,240
Speaker 5: She clearly can't deliver on this, and now they're looking

1588
01:41:15,320 --> 01:41:18,599
Speaker 5: to sort of back you know, retro you know, retro

1589
01:41:18,640 --> 01:41:21,880
Speaker 5: fit or retro engineer to where they can they can

1590
01:41:21,920 --> 01:41:24,760
Speaker 5: do this, and Democrats are doing what I think Republicans

1591
01:41:24,800 --> 01:41:27,519
Speaker 5: would do under the same circumstances, which is taking advantage

1592
01:41:27,520 --> 01:41:30,439
Speaker 5: of it and making sure that everybody knows that these

1593
01:41:30,479 --> 01:41:34,040
Speaker 5: guys are flailing. And they are.

1594
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Speaker 3: But the I think the problem that the Democrats have

1595
01:41:37,479 --> 01:41:41,240
Speaker 3: is that you didn't care about this for four years.

1596
01:41:41,680 --> 01:41:45,320
Speaker 3: It's clearly obvious that it's political to you. And if

1597
01:41:45,360 --> 01:41:48,400
Speaker 3: this is all you have, Trump still wins on the economy,

1598
01:41:48,400 --> 01:41:50,080
Speaker 3: Trump still wins on the border. Trump still wins in

1599
01:41:50,120 --> 01:41:51,960
Speaker 3: the Middle East. Trump still wins on men or not

1600
01:41:52,000 --> 01:41:54,240
Speaker 3: women and women are not men. Trump still wins. Trump

1601
01:41:54,280 --> 01:41:57,360
Speaker 3: still wins. Trump still wins. So the other part of

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01:41:57,360 --> 01:42:00,400
Speaker 3: this is that somehow the Epstein conversation is created a

1603
01:42:00,479 --> 01:42:03,320
Speaker 3: rift in Maga. I think it created some people trying

1604
01:42:03,320 --> 01:42:06,400
Speaker 3: to protect their fiefdoms, and some people who really showed

1605
01:42:06,439 --> 01:42:09,120
Speaker 3: themselves to be very Bill Crystal, we're not going to

1606
01:42:09,160 --> 01:42:11,439
Speaker 3: talk about this. We'll tell you what to talk about.

1607
01:42:11,560 --> 01:42:14,479
Speaker 3: That's not a way to do things, guys. Bill Crystal,

1608
01:42:14,520 --> 01:42:18,320
Speaker 3: twenty sixteen, on conservatism, I'll tell you who a real

1609
01:42:18,400 --> 01:42:21,719
Speaker 3: conservative is. Is not a way to go about winning

1610
01:42:21,720 --> 01:42:26,000
Speaker 3: friends and influencing people. But if the Democrats are going

1611
01:42:26,040 --> 01:42:28,679
Speaker 3: to rely on this to gain some kind of victory,

1612
01:42:29,200 --> 01:42:31,439
Speaker 3: who in the world are they pulling over from Magaville

1613
01:42:31,520 --> 01:42:35,599
Speaker 3: or from independence, or from moderates or from low propensity voters.

1614
01:42:35,600 --> 01:42:40,200
Speaker 5: I argue that number is zero. Oh yeah, almost certainly.

1615
01:42:40,320 --> 01:42:43,599
Speaker 5: But again, they don't have too many cards to play,

1616
01:42:44,160 --> 01:42:48,599
Speaker 5: and that's a solid point. And BONDI just gave them

1617
01:42:48,600 --> 01:42:51,559
Speaker 5: half a deck, right, So they're going to play those

1618
01:42:51,600 --> 01:42:53,320
Speaker 5: cards as long as they can play those cards, and

1619
01:42:53,320 --> 01:42:57,200
Speaker 5: hopefully it erodes some confidence and it's etcetera, etcetera. Maybe

1620
01:42:57,200 --> 01:42:58,960
Speaker 5: at least to some other scandal. You know, I think

1621
01:42:58,960 --> 01:43:00,880
Speaker 5: that they're still sort of semi hoping that there's something

1622
01:43:00,880 --> 01:43:03,800
Speaker 5: about Trump in these files. If there was something about Trump,

1623
01:43:03,800 --> 01:43:06,880
Speaker 5: it would have leaked out during the Biden administration. There's

1624
01:43:06,880 --> 01:43:09,200
Speaker 5: nothing about Trump, and the Dershowitz says, I've seen all

1625
01:43:09,240 --> 01:43:12,800
Speaker 5: of this. There's nothing about Trump in it. There's nothing

1626
01:43:12,840 --> 01:43:14,920
Speaker 5: about and he said, there's nothing about any current office

1627
01:43:14,920 --> 01:43:17,000
Speaker 5: holders that are in this either. This is mostly like

1628
01:43:17,040 --> 01:43:20,160
Speaker 5: business leaders and people around politics, but there's no current

1629
01:43:20,160 --> 01:43:24,360
Speaker 5: office holders in this mix. So again, there's really not

1630
01:43:24,960 --> 01:43:29,440
Speaker 5: This is going to be a huge exercise in disappointment

1631
01:43:29,520 --> 01:43:34,400
Speaker 5: and dissolution and failed expectations. And this is why politics

1632
01:43:34,479 --> 01:43:38,400
Speaker 5: is about setting expectations in a manner that you can

1633
01:43:38,439 --> 01:43:40,920
Speaker 5: meet them and be credible in doing so.

1634
01:43:41,000 --> 01:43:42,160
Speaker 3: This is this is.

1635
01:43:42,360 --> 01:43:45,920
Speaker 5: Practically a Harvard Business School case of how not to

1636
01:43:45,920 --> 01:43:46,640
Speaker 5: do politics.

1637
01:43:47,280 --> 01:43:51,559
Speaker 3: Ed Marscy hotair dot Com. Always appreciate you, man. More

1638
01:43:51,600 --> 01:43:54,240
Speaker 3: coming up. I'm Tony Katz. This is Tony Katz today.

1639
01:43:54,600 --> 01:43:58,599
Speaker 3: So the I see the intelligence community didn't have any

1640
01:43:58,760 --> 01:44:04,840
Speaker 3: direct information that Putin wanted to help Donald Trump during

1641
01:44:04,840 --> 01:44:10,200
Speaker 3: the twenty sixteen presidential election. Huh. Well, the more we

1642
01:44:10,240 --> 01:44:13,360
Speaker 3: go through this, the more we see. Tony Katz, Tony

1643
01:44:13,439 --> 01:44:18,000
Speaker 3: Katz today, Good to be with you. Tulsey Gabbard telling

1644
01:44:18,200 --> 01:44:24,960
Speaker 3: Newsmax that there are more documents that refute the statement

1645
01:44:27,000 --> 01:44:30,880
Speaker 3: regarding President of Barack Obama and his team denying his

1646
01:44:31,040 --> 01:44:34,280
Speaker 3: role in the coup attempt against Donald Trump. Well, I

1647
01:44:34,320 --> 01:44:37,120
Speaker 3: don't know what else you would call it. You directed

1648
01:44:37,400 --> 01:44:41,320
Speaker 3: the director of National Intelligence, you directed the FBI director,

1649
01:44:41,360 --> 01:44:44,839
Speaker 3: you directed the CIA director, You directed the attorney general

1650
01:44:45,439 --> 01:44:48,840
Speaker 3: to get together and take a look at how you

1651
01:44:48,880 --> 01:44:52,000
Speaker 3: can hurt Donald Trump. You had James Comey say, oh,

1652
01:44:52,040 --> 01:44:55,360
Speaker 3: the Presidential Daily briefing that shows these eighteen different intelligence

1653
01:44:55,360 --> 01:44:59,280
Speaker 3: groups saying that Russia was not in any discernible way

1654
01:45:00,080 --> 01:45:02,400
Speaker 3: able to interfere in the election without us knowing, this

1655
01:45:02,520 --> 01:45:06,600
Speaker 3: wasn't happening. And you then decided, we'll spike the Presidential

1656
01:45:06,680 --> 01:45:09,439
Speaker 3: Daily brief We'll come back to it, and we'll say, oh, yes,

1657
01:45:09,479 --> 01:45:12,639
Speaker 3: the Russians were really involved in the twenty sixteen election.

1658
01:45:12,760 --> 01:45:15,799
Speaker 3: This is what happened. And this is why President Trump

1659
01:45:15,920 --> 01:45:21,840
Speaker 3: saying of Barack Obama the treason and he should be prosecuted. Yes,

1660
01:45:23,080 --> 01:45:26,720
Speaker 3: ten thousand percent. Why is this? Why is this in

1661
01:45:26,800 --> 01:45:30,600
Speaker 3: any way odd or awkward? But going back to this

1662
01:45:30,760 --> 01:45:34,920
Speaker 3: story that there was no direct information that Putin wanted

1663
01:45:34,960 --> 01:45:38,040
Speaker 3: to help Trump win the twenty sixteen election, But as

1664
01:45:38,160 --> 01:45:41,400
Speaker 3: Fox News reports, it at the unusual direction of then

1665
01:45:41,479 --> 01:45:45,839
Speaker 3: president Barack Obama. They published potentially biased or implausible intelligence

1666
01:45:45,880 --> 01:45:50,880
Speaker 3: suggesting otherwise. This according to the House Intelligence Committee. So

1667
01:45:50,960 --> 01:45:55,280
Speaker 3: we now have more and more and more all of

1668
01:45:55,280 --> 01:45:57,559
Speaker 3: these things that Devin Nunez did when he was in

1669
01:45:57,640 --> 01:46:01,280
Speaker 3: the House, before he went on to head up is

1670
01:46:01,280 --> 01:46:03,200
Speaker 3: a Trump media group? Is that what they call it?

1671
01:46:03,960 --> 01:46:06,799
Speaker 3: He runs truth Social and all of these other things.

1672
01:46:08,080 --> 01:46:12,360
Speaker 3: It is obvious and clear what it is these people did.

1673
01:46:13,360 --> 01:46:17,320
Speaker 3: And we are shocked, but we are not surprised. We're

1674
01:46:17,360 --> 01:46:20,160
Speaker 3: only shocked, and we're able to really put it all together,

1675
01:46:20,240 --> 01:46:22,000
Speaker 3: and that so many people have been able to put

1676
01:46:22,040 --> 01:46:26,599
Speaker 3: these pieces together of the duplicitousness of the political left,

1677
01:46:26,920 --> 01:46:29,479
Speaker 3: and how much they denied, denied, denied, and there are

1678
01:46:29,479 --> 01:46:32,360
Speaker 3: the fellow travelers and the press denied, denied, denied, and

1679
01:46:32,439 --> 01:46:35,280
Speaker 3: called it all conspiracy theories and nonsense and laughed it

1680
01:46:35,320 --> 01:46:39,559
Speaker 3: off and brushed it off. It's imperative that we remember

1681
01:46:39,560 --> 01:46:43,840
Speaker 3: that these are bad people. They're bad actors, they're bad Americans.

1682
01:46:44,200 --> 01:46:47,840
Speaker 3: They're not Americans. Oh no, no, no, there are Americans in

1683
01:46:47,880 --> 01:46:50,559
Speaker 3: that they were born in the United States. But you

1684
01:46:50,560 --> 01:46:52,559
Speaker 3: think they act like somebody who believes in the rule

1685
01:46:52,560 --> 01:46:55,439
Speaker 3: of law. You think they act like somebody who believes that, Okay,

1686
01:46:55,479 --> 01:46:57,559
Speaker 3: we lost an election, let's go win the next one. No,

1687
01:46:57,760 --> 01:47:00,519
Speaker 3: these people don't act like that. You think John Brennan's decent,

1688
01:47:00,920 --> 01:47:05,040
Speaker 3: James Clapper, Barack Obama, you think any of these people

1689
01:47:05,080 --> 01:47:10,680
Speaker 3: are decent people. No, they're they're low people. And it

1690
01:47:10,720 --> 01:47:15,200
Speaker 3: is once again a reminder. Election day is November third,

1691
01:47:15,280 --> 01:47:20,080
Speaker 3: twenty twenty six, and not only can Democrats not have power,

1692
01:47:21,160 --> 01:47:23,640
Speaker 3: but Republicans need to use the power they have in

1693
01:47:23,720 --> 01:47:26,680
Speaker 3: the time they have to ensure they've got all the

1694
01:47:26,800 --> 01:47:31,000
Speaker 3: data and then prosecute where necessary, no doubt, find everything

1695
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Speaker 3: at Tony Katz dot com. Tomorrow, Everyone to take care