WEBVTT - Mac & Bone Hour 2: Defensive Expectations Post Bye Week 0:00:24.960 --> 0:00:28.600 Well, so let's start with this. The Eagles have really, 0:00:28.680 --> 0:00:33.280 really struggled to run the football. So if you're the Panthers, 0:00:34.350 --> 0:00:37.750 especially with your corners out, I think you need to 0:00:37.790 --> 0:00:40.690 make them prove they can run it. I mean, I 0:00:40.729 --> 0:00:43.610 don't know if Saquon will play, but there's a pretty 0:00:43.650 --> 0:00:45.940 good chance that they'll be down to their fourth and 0:00:46.000 --> 0:00:49.479 fifth string, both of whom were on practice squad last week. 0:00:50.220 --> 0:00:54.400 and Damian Pierce and Carson Steele. Make them prove that 0:00:54.420 --> 0:00:56.860 they can actually run the ball against you, even if 0:00:56.880 --> 0:00:59.740 you have a light box. That's certainly what I would do. 0:01:01.080 --> 0:01:01.680 There you go. 0:01:01.740 --> 0:01:06.100 That is Ross Tucker, who will be calling Eagles Panthers 0:01:06.819 --> 0:01:11.060 on Sunday on CBS. His partner in crime on that 0:01:11.080 --> 0:01:13.539 broadcast will be Ian Eagle. We will talk to Ian 0:01:13.600 --> 0:01:18.800 Eagle later today at 925. Always fun to talk to him, Bone, 0:01:19.560 --> 0:01:21.890 and I want to see what he thinks. about the 0:01:22.000 --> 0:01:24.810 Eagles and Panthers headed into this game. But that's Ross 0:01:24.830 --> 0:01:29.310 Tucker talking about the Panthers' defense this week. And we 0:01:29.330 --> 0:01:32.089 will get into more of those conversations about what to do, 0:01:32.590 --> 0:01:37.779 what we need to do to win this game. The much-respected, much-anticipated, 0:01:38.370 --> 0:01:40.810 Victory Formula bonus coming up at 8 o'clock on this 0:01:40.870 --> 0:01:42.250 radio show. 0:01:42.470 --> 0:01:44.930 People's entire weeks depend on how to beat the Eagles. 0:01:45.720 --> 0:01:47.740 And we have the answers. They come to us for 0:01:47.760 --> 0:01:50.720 the answers, right? This is certainly where they come, I'm sure. 0:01:50.740 --> 0:01:53.040 We've been in the lab for days with these answers. 0:01:53.080 --> 0:01:56.280 Big time, big time. If Saquon Barkley plays, slow him down. 0:01:57.400 --> 0:01:58.340 It's on my list. 0:01:58.420 --> 0:02:00.360 Is it bad if part of my victory formula is 0:02:00.380 --> 0:02:01.530 Saquon Barkley sits out? 0:02:01.580 --> 0:02:03.130 That was actually near the top of my list. We 0:02:03.150 --> 0:02:04.170 don't want to give it all away yet. 0:02:04.290 --> 0:02:07.870 Splinter's... Splitters and Saquon's booty is right up there on 0:02:07.890 --> 0:02:11.370 my victory formula. Because if it's not him, it's probably 0:02:11.410 --> 0:02:13.030 a fourth string bag. It's probably Pierce. 0:02:13.800 --> 0:02:14.360 All right. 0:02:14.740 --> 0:02:18.160 Let's talk about the Panthers' defense more big picture right now. 0:02:18.580 --> 0:02:21.320 Like yesterday, we did the whole offensive conversation, and I 0:02:21.370 --> 0:02:25.230 really love the fact, Bone, that on a skeptical place, 0:02:25.610 --> 0:02:28.690 the WFNZ text line, it was an overwhelming amount of 0:02:28.830 --> 0:02:31.530 optimism about this offense. I mean, people believe in Idzik. 0:02:31.810 --> 0:02:35.050 The majority believe in Bryce. The majority believe the point 0:02:35.090 --> 0:02:37.390 that you were the first to make during the segment yesterday, 0:02:37.450 --> 0:02:42.190 which is there's room to grow. Moten's coming back. You know, 0:02:42.510 --> 0:02:45.260 Coker looking like he's going to go like there's room 0:02:45.320 --> 0:02:48.020 to grow on this team offensively. 0:02:48.160 --> 0:02:52.040 Don't send in your Bryce jokes about what Matt just. 0:02:52.620 --> 0:02:55.430 Said. I can't use the word grow with Bryce. I 0:02:55.470 --> 0:02:56.270 forgot all about that. 0:02:56.710 --> 0:02:59.530 But I want to talk about the defense, and I 0:02:59.590 --> 0:03:02.650 don't think the expectations are going to be near as high. 0:03:02.669 --> 0:03:05.290 I don't think the optimism is going to be near 0:03:05.350 --> 0:03:08.290 as high. But I'm kind of wondering with y'all, I mean, 0:03:08.510 --> 0:03:12.419 I think there's two phases of the season for this defense, 0:03:12.540 --> 0:03:15.220 at least the way it looks right now. The first 0:03:15.280 --> 0:03:18.340 phase is this period bone until they get Mike Jack 0:03:18.480 --> 0:03:19.160 and Horn back. 0:03:19.840 --> 0:03:21.020 And it's probably in the. 0:03:20.980 --> 0:03:25.549 Neighborhood of like five to six, five to seven weeks. 0:03:25.790 --> 0:03:30.010 Mike Jack probably back quicker than Horn. So it's this 0:03:30.050 --> 0:03:32.770 next five or six games or so where they have 0:03:32.810 --> 0:03:38.020 to find ways to to maintain, to be solid. Maybe 0:03:38.040 --> 0:03:41.420 you're not going to be spectacular most weeks. Like for example, 0:03:41.440 --> 0:03:43.980 the Detroit game, you get a bunch of red zone stops. 0:03:44.000 --> 0:03:46.860 You make them kick field goals instead of touchdowns. You 0:03:46.880 --> 0:03:49.100 get a couple of stops on fourth down and lo 0:03:49.120 --> 0:03:50.660 and behold, at the end of the night, you were 0:03:50.700 --> 0:03:53.360 the first team in the NFL and still are the first, 0:03:53.500 --> 0:03:55.870 the only team in the NFL this season to hold 0:03:55.880 --> 0:03:57.190 the lions under 30 points. 0:03:57.430 --> 0:03:57.610 Yeah. 0:03:57.670 --> 0:03:59.650 I feel like bone, like, and then I feel like 0:03:59.670 --> 0:04:03.130 when you get your corners back, Hopefully you haven't had 0:04:03.170 --> 0:04:05.590 a bunch of other injuries on defense, knock on wood, 0:04:06.150 --> 0:04:08.770 and then you're a full unit at that point in time. 0:04:09.530 --> 0:04:10.760 Is that a good way of putting it? 0:04:10.780 --> 0:04:12.960 What do we expect from this defense without the corners, 0:04:13.320 --> 0:04:14.900 but then what do we expect them to be when 0:04:14.920 --> 0:04:15.700 they get them back? 0:04:15.800 --> 0:04:17.520 First of all, they're going to give up points. They're 0:04:17.540 --> 0:04:19.500 going to give up yards in the pass game just 0:04:19.540 --> 0:04:23.130 because those guys are out. Can they hold serve enough 0:04:23.210 --> 0:04:26.240 to give the team a chance? Can they... Can they bend? 0:04:26.279 --> 0:04:28.619 And they will bend at times, but just not break 0:04:28.720 --> 0:04:31.000 and give this team a chance, whether it be a 0:04:31.050 --> 0:04:34.010 close game or whatever, give this team a chance for 0:04:34.050 --> 0:04:36.790 the offense to go win the football game. I equate 0:04:36.850 --> 0:04:40.990 it back to a pitching staff is missing two main 0:04:41.070 --> 0:04:45.210 rotation pieces right now. Can you just get enough out 0:04:45.230 --> 0:04:48.450 of the guys in there to give your team a chance? 0:04:48.750 --> 0:04:51.150 You may not get the pitcher that's going to go 0:04:51.230 --> 0:04:53.850 seven innings, strike out 10, and be dominant. But can 0:04:53.870 --> 0:04:56.540 you get guys that give you enough length in the 0:04:56.600 --> 0:04:58.900 game to give your team a chance? We're just looking 0:04:58.920 --> 0:05:03.039 for guys that can hold serve, keep the defense average, 0:05:03.440 --> 0:05:05.900 and let this emerging offense take over a football game. 0:05:06.020 --> 0:05:06.359 Yeah. 0:05:06.430 --> 0:05:09.030 I'm not expecting some dominant defensive performances here. 0:05:09.170 --> 0:05:09.350 No. 0:05:09.390 --> 0:05:11.650 I just want to see them not get gutted. You 0:05:11.670 --> 0:05:12.030 know what I mean? 0:05:12.089 --> 0:05:14.770 But I think it does need to be mentioned, Bone, 0:05:15.230 --> 0:05:19.600 that Detroit is averaging, I don't know, like 36 points 0:05:19.620 --> 0:05:21.740 a game against their other four opponents and scored 26 0:05:21.740 --> 0:05:26.110 against us. So, yes, is it ideal to see Jared 0:05:26.150 --> 0:05:28.150 Goff throw for 400 plus yards against us? 0:05:28.230 --> 0:05:28.830 No, it's not. 0:05:29.300 --> 0:05:31.320 I also think you've got to figure out something with 0:05:31.339 --> 0:05:34.420 the Caleb Evans situation as well. 0:05:34.980 --> 0:05:36.219 I think you've got to. 0:05:38.250 --> 0:05:41.270 Does Corey Thornton get a chance? Do you play Shaw 0:05:41.310 --> 0:05:44.190 Smith Wade out there some? Robert Rochelle got signed to 0:05:44.210 --> 0:05:46.370 the practice squad, but I know Joe Person was saying 0:05:46.410 --> 0:05:49.450 last night on Panthers Collective, he thinks the move was 0:05:49.710 --> 0:05:52.890 Rochelle to practice squad and Thornton will be elevated. Thornton 0:05:52.930 --> 0:05:55.940 had such a disappointing preseason bone coming off his injury 0:05:55.950 --> 0:05:56.460 from last year. 0:05:56.480 --> 0:05:58.339 What happened to this guy? You tapped him all summer. 0:05:58.380 --> 0:05:59.540 But maybe that's what happened. 0:05:59.720 --> 0:06:03.800 Maybe I'm Matt cursed him, but like, remember his performances 0:06:03.839 --> 0:06:05.880 bone in training camp last year. And remember the fact 0:06:05.920 --> 0:06:09.279 that he stole that job last season from Shaw Smith, Wade. 0:06:09.820 --> 0:06:12.140 So I wonder if Corey Thornton can be the guy, 0:06:12.500 --> 0:06:14.620 but that's what they've got to figure out. Do you 0:06:14.660 --> 0:06:17.380 give a Caleb Evans another shot? But I said it yesterday, 0:06:17.580 --> 0:06:19.750 you gotta be quick. You can't be, you can't give 0:06:19.760 --> 0:06:21.110 him a long leash anymore, man. 0:06:21.450 --> 0:06:22.810 No, no, you can't. 0:06:23.850 --> 0:06:26.890 I think Sunday is going to be a, uh, low 0:06:26.950 --> 0:06:30.549 scoring tough game but i don't think that the panthers 0:06:30.589 --> 0:06:33.450 are going to want to get in too many or 0:06:33.510 --> 0:06:35.950 we'll end up in too many defensive struggles along the 0:06:35.970 --> 0:06:38.130 way it's it's a little bit different than we thought 0:06:38.150 --> 0:06:40.450 i think they're going to want to get in more 0:06:40.560 --> 0:06:42.599 offensive games because i think that's going to be how 0:06:42.620 --> 0:06:44.400 they're going to win football games i think that won't 0:06:44.440 --> 0:06:46.279 always work out that way but it's the way it's 0:06:46.300 --> 0:06:48.460 going to be we've got a texter that says i 0:06:48.500 --> 0:06:50.300 don't mean that in long term when mike jack and 0:06:50.320 --> 0:06:52.320 horn get back it's a different mentality but right now 0:06:52.400 --> 0:06:54.260 it's going to be they're going to score some points 0:06:54.300 --> 0:06:58.130 in these games 704 number says, what you're hearing is 0:06:58.270 --> 0:07:03.370 Mac changing the expectations from his hype in the preseason 0:07:03.410 --> 0:07:05.150 about this defense. Well, I don't know how you can't 0:07:05.190 --> 0:07:07.970 when you're missing two corners that good. You know, and 0:07:07.990 --> 0:07:10.410 when a Caleb Evans was forced to start last game 0:07:10.690 --> 0:07:13.010 and almost gave up 200 yards on 11 completions. 0:07:13.410 --> 0:07:14.690 Like, I'm just trying to be honest. 0:07:14.740 --> 0:07:17.400 Now, what Bone said there at the end, I do think, 0:07:17.860 --> 0:07:20.600 you know, guys will get experience, Bone, and will be 0:07:20.640 --> 0:07:23.040 better for it when they get back. If you can 0:07:23.120 --> 0:07:25.880 still be healthy in the front seven and you get 0:07:25.940 --> 0:07:28.239 Horn and Jack back, I think you have a chance 0:07:28.640 --> 0:07:31.600 to have a, you know, defense that is top half 0:07:31.640 --> 0:07:33.500 in the league and an offense that's top 10. 0:07:33.500 --> 0:07:35.230 And if you can get into the playoffs with that 0:07:35.290 --> 0:07:35.890 kind of balance. 0:07:36.670 --> 0:07:38.950 By the end of the season, you could be damn dangerous. 0:07:39.010 --> 0:07:43.280 But like this dude says, sounds like Mac is on 0:07:43.300 --> 0:07:45.010 here making excuses for Avero. 0:07:46.070 --> 0:07:48.510 Aren't we just being honest, though? I don't think it's 0:07:48.630 --> 0:07:50.920 an excuse. Isn't this fair? The two best corners are out. 0:07:51.040 --> 0:07:53.480 One guy is a top five corner in the league 0:07:53.740 --> 0:07:56.660 per ESPN.com's rankings this past summer. 0:07:56.840 --> 0:07:58.420 Like, is that what's going to happen here? 0:07:58.600 --> 0:08:00.760 Is, like, people are going to use what happened to 0:08:00.820 --> 0:08:04.750 the defense without, like, here's the thing, too. If we 0:08:04.770 --> 0:08:07.530 win games and give up 26 points, are y'all going 0:08:07.550 --> 0:08:09.830 to be on this text line whining and nagging and 0:08:09.910 --> 0:08:15.140 harassing Averro? Without his top two corners? Absolutely. The object 0:08:15.200 --> 0:08:16.140 of the game is to win. 0:08:16.160 --> 0:08:17.770 You know what I mean? 0:08:17.870 --> 0:08:21.530 And we're fortunate enough now to, we think... we have 0:08:21.570 --> 0:08:25.240 an offense bone that's really freaking good. Like, I was 0:08:25.300 --> 0:08:26.240 checking all the– The. 0:08:26.100 --> 0:08:28.200 Green Bay game's an example of where the offense has 0:08:28.240 --> 0:08:29.940 got to show up in that game. And they had 0:08:29.960 --> 0:08:31.800 to against Detroit, too. I don't think they're going to 0:08:31.840 --> 0:08:34.500 hold Green Bay to very few points, the way they operate. 0:08:34.520 --> 0:08:37.199 And they had to against Detroit. But, again, like, that 0:08:37.640 --> 0:08:39.160 Green Bay offensive line's pretty. 0:08:39.020 --> 0:08:39.380 Bad, too. 0:08:39.400 --> 0:08:41.320 You know what I mean? Can we hurt them? Can 0:08:41.360 --> 0:08:43.420 we make them pay up front a little bit? So, again, 0:08:43.540 --> 0:08:45.240 the object's to win the game. So I hope we're 0:08:45.280 --> 0:08:47.100 not sitting here, if we find ways to keep winning 0:08:47.120 --> 0:08:49.920 games like we did against Detroit– and the defense is 0:08:49.970 --> 0:08:52.729 bend but not break and stuff like that, I hope 0:08:52.770 --> 0:08:55.250 people aren't complaining about the defense. We're lucky to have 0:08:55.309 --> 0:08:56.370 this offense like this. 0:08:56.410 --> 0:08:56.810 You know what I mean? 0:08:57.070 --> 0:08:59.590 If we had last year's offense and we're missing Mike 0:08:59.610 --> 0:09:02.840 Jack and J.C. Horn, I believe that would be serious 0:09:02.880 --> 0:09:03.620 cause for concern. 0:09:04.360 --> 0:09:05.780 Good news is we don't have a lot of people 0:09:05.820 --> 0:09:07.620 that complain a whole lot, so we don't really run 0:09:07.640 --> 0:09:09.280 into that problem too much. We've got a bunch of 0:09:09.500 --> 0:09:10.840 Danny Hurleys on the text line. I was just going 0:09:10.860 --> 0:09:12.179 to say we've got a bunch of Danny Hurleys on 0:09:12.200 --> 0:09:15.050 the text line. You and I, two guys, one brain. 0:09:15.570 --> 0:09:16.890 Let's see what else we have here. 0:09:17.470 --> 0:09:17.910 Literally. 0:09:18.550 --> 0:09:20.910 We each have. 5 of a brain. It adds up 0:09:20.950 --> 0:09:23.080 to one. Smitty from the City Panthers. 0:09:23.100 --> 0:09:25.800 D without their corners is like the Mac and Bone 0:09:25.840 --> 0:09:26.559 Show without Mac. 0:09:28.670 --> 0:09:28.950 All right. 0:09:29.050 --> 0:09:31.130 Is that like, does that, I mean, what about without Bone? 0:09:31.770 --> 0:09:33.070 I mean, we need both of us here. What about 0:09:33.090 --> 0:09:34.410 without Finney? We ain't the same without Finney. 0:09:34.429 --> 0:09:36.720 I don't know if I'm offended or not. I know. 0:09:36.800 --> 0:09:39.000 I feel like, hey, you miss one of us, man. 0:09:39.040 --> 0:09:40.780 We ain't the same show. All right. 0:09:40.800 --> 0:09:44.570 We're like Coach Kaysen. You put your fist together, we're one. 0:09:44.830 --> 0:09:45.630 We're one with a fist. 0:09:45.830 --> 0:09:48.570 Travis, thank you, Kay. Travis from Statesville. I don't think 0:09:48.610 --> 0:09:51.760 it's changing expectations. I think it's just acknowledging that the 0:09:51.800 --> 0:09:53.840 ceiling of the defense is lower right now. I think 0:09:53.880 --> 0:09:56.420 that's a good way of putting it. John says mac 0:09:56.500 --> 0:09:59.420 acts like a varro's bend but not break um or 0:09:59.540 --> 0:10:01.860 is it bend but not break when he has his 0:10:01.920 --> 0:10:04.720 corners yeah i mean there's a mindset right of keeping 0:10:04.760 --> 0:10:06.770 everything in front of you and umbrella coverage and stuff 0:10:06.790 --> 0:10:09.130 like that i will say this and i want to 0:10:09.170 --> 0:10:11.410 say right now the coverage they played bone on that 0:10:11.470 --> 0:10:12.929 long pass played by detroit at the end of the 0:10:12.970 --> 0:10:17.270 first half was an abomination An absolute abomination. I just 0:10:17.309 --> 0:10:20.130 don't understand how you have a five-man umbrella and two 0:10:20.150 --> 0:10:22.530 of them stay underneath in that situation. So I will 0:10:22.550 --> 0:10:25.340 never defend that crap. And I'm not saying Avero's perfect. 0:10:25.760 --> 0:10:28.880 I will point out, Bone, that we're sixth in blitz percentage. 0:10:29.440 --> 0:10:33.320 We blitz 45% of the time against Jerry Goff. Agero 0:10:33.340 --> 0:10:35.540 Avero listened to Fitty's advice. 0:10:36.350 --> 0:10:38.810 Last game. Phinney said blitz Jared Goff. 0:10:39.290 --> 0:10:41.450 Brenton Buckner and a bunch of people texted in and said, 0:10:41.470 --> 0:10:43.849 do y'all realize how good Goff is against the blitz? 0:10:44.350 --> 0:10:48.390 We went out there, Bone, and got pressures over 60% 0:10:48.390 --> 0:10:51.630 of the time on our blitzes. And Goff ended up 0:10:51.650 --> 0:10:54.630 with like a 72 rating against the blitz. So they 0:10:54.650 --> 0:10:56.770 did a hell of a job. And Goff's a hard 0:10:56.830 --> 0:11:00.700 quarterback to blitz. So I do think they got to 0:11:00.720 --> 0:11:03.220 pick their spots with the blitzes. But I don't think 0:11:03.260 --> 0:11:07.600 it's going to be all conservative blitzes. You know, umbrella stuff. 0:11:07.760 --> 0:11:11.000 We also have to mention how much of a difference 0:11:11.940 --> 0:11:14.740 Devin Lloyd is for this team and how he alters 0:11:15.320 --> 0:11:17.959 the ceiling of the defense with or without those corners. 0:11:18.440 --> 0:11:22.239 Devin Lloyd's play does put the defense on it. They're 0:11:22.280 --> 0:11:25.080 not going to be Mac, a defense that was the 0:11:25.140 --> 0:11:28.020 worst ever two years ago. when Devin Lloyd is out there. 0:11:28.059 --> 0:11:31.320 He will not let that happen. He's an absolute difference 0:11:31.360 --> 0:11:33.320 maker for this team. We've seen it already in the 0:11:33.360 --> 0:11:35.760 first quarter of the season. Well, that's another thing, too. Like, OK, 0:11:35.780 --> 0:11:38.100 we're missing our two corners, and they are freaking good. 0:11:38.260 --> 0:11:40.260 I mean, Mike Jack is one of the most underrated 0:11:40.280 --> 0:11:42.330 corners in football. There's no way around it. 0:11:43.000 --> 0:11:43.450 And J.C. 0:11:43.470 --> 0:11:45.750 Horn, the last two years, has started to get his recognition. 0:11:46.290 --> 0:11:48.530 You lose those two guys, but we do have to 0:11:48.570 --> 0:11:51.609 talk about what we have, Bone. We have Devin Lloyd, who, 0:11:51.890 --> 0:11:53.530 to your point, is a game changer, the leader of 0:11:53.550 --> 0:11:56.130 this defense. And he helps you in every aspect of defense. 0:11:56.210 --> 0:11:59.959 Run defense, coverage, pass rush as a blitzer. And then 0:12:00.000 --> 0:12:05.119 you throw in Okereke next to him. Hell, if you 0:12:05.140 --> 0:12:07.660 want to throw in Dodson. Our linebacker situation is so 0:12:07.700 --> 0:12:10.559 much better than last year. The pass rush, Bone, I 0:12:10.580 --> 0:12:13.070 know it doesn't seem like much. We're up to 17th 0:12:13.110 --> 0:12:17.110 in pressure percentage overall. It is still 25th in sack percentage, 0:12:17.150 --> 0:12:20.210 which isn't great. But I do think Bone Prinsley is 0:12:20.270 --> 0:12:22.010 right up there in the top three in pass rush 0:12:22.050 --> 0:12:26.040 win rate. I think Jalen Phillips is 11th in pressures 0:12:26.080 --> 0:12:31.920 among edges. There is more pass rush this year. And 0:12:31.940 --> 0:12:33.740 we get Wharton back. I think that could be a 0:12:33.800 --> 0:12:37.270 big pass rush boon as well, giving us some interior rush. 0:12:37.350 --> 0:12:40.990 You mentioned a comment that I liked earlier about the 0:12:41.030 --> 0:12:43.950 guys that are getting to play now. Does that benefit 0:12:43.990 --> 0:12:47.330 them long term for the negative of having to play now? 0:12:47.880 --> 0:12:50.360 Does that benefit them long term? That's a theme I 0:12:50.380 --> 0:12:53.260 think on this roster. Freeling got in there quicker than 0:12:53.300 --> 0:12:55.959 we thought. Does he benefit from that long term? Of course, 0:12:55.980 --> 0:12:59.240 I think he will. Um, Prince Lee is playing a 0:12:59.280 --> 0:13:01.359 lot more than we thought because Gordon is out. There's 0:13:01.380 --> 0:13:03.440 a lot of guys on this roster who are getting 0:13:03.500 --> 0:13:07.979 opportunities and that depth is being built here for it hurting. 0:13:08.059 --> 0:13:09.980 Now going forward. 0:13:09.660 --> 0:13:12.240 In the next couple of years, these guys playing now 0:13:12.320 --> 0:13:13.969 does benefit the overall depth of this football. 0:13:14.070 --> 0:13:14.520 It does. 0:13:14.610 --> 0:13:16.670 It does. And even later this year, you know, when, 0:13:16.710 --> 0:13:19.430 when we get Hornet and Mike Jack back, Patrick is 0:13:19.610 --> 0:13:22.850 already taking us bone to the eight o'clock segment and 0:13:22.910 --> 0:13:24.890 to the victory formula against the Eagles. 0:13:25.309 --> 0:13:27.590 He says he's worried in a different time zone. He's worried. 0:13:27.650 --> 0:13:30.710 Princely still doesn't. Where's he at here? He's worried. 0:13:30.770 --> 0:13:34.110 Princely still doesn't understand what a pocket is and hurts. 0:13:34.130 --> 0:13:37.070 We'll get out and burn us on some scrambles. That 0:13:37.230 --> 0:13:40.570 is going to be boned very high on my list 0:13:41.190 --> 0:13:46.580 of victory formula items. Now, the good news is he 0:13:46.640 --> 0:13:48.700 does sound like he's got a bit of a calf injury. 0:13:49.020 --> 0:13:51.760 He has not run enough for Philly fans liking. But 0:13:51.800 --> 0:13:54.000 that would be some Panther stuff, Bone, where the quarterback's 0:13:54.059 --> 0:13:56.080 not running a ton and all of a sudden runs 0:13:56.140 --> 0:13:59.120 it 10 times for 56 yards against the Panthers. But 0:13:59.220 --> 0:14:03.560 that is absolutely something that I hope we learn from. 0:14:04.200 --> 0:14:08.130 the William's experience and the Watson experience because this is 0:14:08.190 --> 0:14:11.250 back to a controlled rush game against Jalen Hurts. 0:14:11.270 --> 0:14:13.570 All right, we're going to let Mac answer his text messages. 0:14:13.650 --> 0:14:16.959 Important text coming. Oh, Coach Canale said, what time is 0:14:16.980 --> 0:14:19.120 that victory formula on? We're going to stop what we're doing. 0:14:19.780 --> 0:14:20.140 All right. 0:14:20.760 --> 0:14:21.540 We come back. 0:14:21.620 --> 0:14:25.900 Reports indicate we are getting closer to a 2014 playoff 0:14:25.950 --> 0:14:30.190 at college football, and a listener brought up an interesting question. 0:14:30.630 --> 0:14:34.450 Shouldn't the increased playoff access make local fans want to 0:14:34.510 --> 0:14:36.330 double the playoff field? 0:14:36.870 --> 0:14:38.690 We'll talk about that on the Mac and Bone Show, 0:14:38.710 --> 0:14:39.410 Sports Radio. 0:14:39.410 --> 0:14:40.010 92.7 WFNZ. 0:15:02.730 --> 0:15:04.790 I think if you're a middle of the road team, 0:15:05.310 --> 0:15:09.150 Bill Belichick has certainly ample opportunity to beat you. And 0:15:09.170 --> 0:15:11.250 that's just us maybe being a little biased towards that 0:15:11.270 --> 0:15:13.270 because he's the greatest NFL coach of all time. So 0:15:13.310 --> 0:15:15.150 we assume he's going to be a good college football coach. 0:15:15.620 --> 0:15:17.290 It didn't look like that last year. They didn't even 0:15:17.320 --> 0:15:18.780 have a recruiting class last year. I think if you 0:15:18.800 --> 0:15:21.240 listen to them talk about it all while under fire 0:15:21.480 --> 0:15:23.100 a lot, they're under siege a lot with a lot 0:15:23.120 --> 0:15:25.360 of distractions. And then did you see after the game? 0:15:26.370 --> 0:15:27.790 players said, hey, you take a lot of s * * * 0:15:27.820 --> 0:15:30.000 for us. We appreciate you. First ranked win, they gave 0:15:30.020 --> 0:15:31.660 him a ball, and then they celebrated with him, and 0:15:31.680 --> 0:15:33.840 Bill was smiling. It felt like he actually has a 0:15:34.520 --> 0:15:36.080 little bit of a culture set in there somehow. I 0:15:36.100 --> 0:15:37.520 don't know how he's been able to do it, but 0:15:37.540 --> 0:15:39.120 I think North Carolina would be a problem for teams. 0:15:40.380 --> 0:15:43.060 There's a little bit of a culture set there somehow. 0:15:43.080 --> 0:15:43.890 I don't know how he's done it. 0:15:44.300 --> 0:15:47.630 Yeah, that's Pat McAfee talking about UNC, and they got 0:15:47.670 --> 0:15:50.170 Duke this weekend, and that is a juicy one. 0:15:50.330 --> 0:15:52.790 I think it'll be a hell of a game. And 0:15:52.830 --> 0:15:54.090 I do want to say this, Bone. 0:15:54.510 --> 0:15:57.150 I do think, like, when I saw that it was 0:15:57.190 --> 0:15:59.100 Jordan Shipp giving them the game ball and how happy 0:15:59.140 --> 0:16:01.820 the guys were for Bill, and he did say that, like, 0:16:01.860 --> 0:16:04.520 you take all this crap for us, man, and we 0:16:04.560 --> 0:16:09.180 love you for it. Like, they're starting to establish something. 0:16:09.780 --> 0:16:14.570 I honestly think the vibes at the program probably improved 0:16:15.050 --> 0:16:16.230 when Michael Lombardi was. 0:16:16.210 --> 0:16:16.550 Out of there. 0:16:17.290 --> 0:16:20.140 And I don't know. And he took his typewriter with him. 0:16:20.190 --> 0:16:22.380 And took that typewriter out, just had it on out. Like, 0:16:22.550 --> 0:16:25.600 I feel like, and maybe that's more with like. The 0:16:25.740 --> 0:16:28.900 people in the administration and the staff, like the people 0:16:28.920 --> 0:16:30.460 that had to deal with him more, maybe it's not 0:16:30.500 --> 0:16:33.740 the players, but I just think that dude was bad 0:16:33.780 --> 0:16:36.590 at his job and a complete pain in the rear 0:16:36.710 --> 0:16:38.470 to deal with the way it seems. So I almost 0:16:38.490 --> 0:16:40.450 feel like they lifted a black cloud when they got 0:16:40.510 --> 0:16:43.070 rid of him. And I don't know if Steve, I 0:16:43.090 --> 0:16:44.770 don't want to talk too much about the Steve Belichick thing. 0:16:44.790 --> 0:16:47.150 We don't know all the details, but that one too 0:16:47.230 --> 0:16:49.550 might have met, that one might've made, you. 0:16:49.370 --> 0:16:50.890 Know, lifted a black cloud as well. 0:16:51.050 --> 0:16:53.980 And, Jordan's been quieter this year than last year, and 0:16:54.020 --> 0:16:56.800 it's not all about her and the drama. So it 0:16:56.860 --> 0:17:00.520 feels like this year has been much more about football 0:17:01.120 --> 0:17:03.860 than everything else. I know that stuff happened with Belichick 0:17:03.900 --> 0:17:06.780 and Lombardi, but I feel like they resemble more of 0:17:06.859 --> 0:17:11.540 a football program than some television program we're watching develop 0:17:11.580 --> 0:17:13.080 before our eyes. 0:17:13.080 --> 0:17:13.119 100%. 0:17:13.119 --> 0:17:15.010 So I give Bill a little credit here. Obviously, we've 0:17:15.030 --> 0:17:17.489 been critical. The whole free world's been critical. Although she 0:17:17.530 --> 0:17:21.190 could have Belichick in a Halloween costume pretty soon. Jordan 0:17:21.210 --> 0:17:23.750 Hudson is a black cloud in a cheerleading outfit, by 0:17:23.790 --> 0:17:25.689 the way, speaking of removing black clouds. 0:17:25.910 --> 0:17:26.490 But you're right. 0:17:26.510 --> 0:17:28.919 Somebody texted about the other day, said, I don't know 0:17:28.940 --> 0:17:31.520 if it's coincidence, but Jordan hasn't really seemed to be 0:17:31.560 --> 0:17:34.200 around and things have been going better. She's there at 0:17:34.240 --> 0:17:37.910 every game, though, supporting her boo. Supporting Billy the Boo. 0:17:37.930 --> 0:17:41.750 Billy the Boo. That probably isn't the coolest thing I've 0:17:41.790 --> 0:17:42.290 ever said. 0:17:42.310 --> 0:17:45.020 You just called yourself on the break Captain Corny about 0:17:45.040 --> 0:17:45.590 a minute ago. 0:17:45.600 --> 0:17:47.940 I know, and I proved it. Captain Corny! 0:17:48.040 --> 0:17:51.780 All right, let's talk about something a texter sent in. 0:17:52.280 --> 0:17:55.629 And this could be addressed by all local college football fans. 0:17:55.770 --> 0:17:59.830 I do think it's an interesting point. So, we got 0:17:59.850 --> 0:18:02.990 a text, I think it was yesterday, Bone, where he texted, 0:18:03.650 --> 0:18:06.630 maybe it was two days ago, but we were saying 0:18:06.710 --> 0:18:09.810 something about not liking the 2014 playoff idea. 0:18:10.369 --> 0:18:12.270 Which, by the way, if you read. 0:18:12.350 --> 0:18:15.330 The latest stuff, it does seem like, there was a 0:18:15.350 --> 0:18:18.040 report yesterday, Bone, that it just feels like it is... 0:18:19.260 --> 0:18:21.720 It's getting really close to that being done. The deadline 0:18:21.780 --> 0:18:24.340 is December 1st, and it just feels like this is 0:18:24.780 --> 0:18:28.270 probably the last season of the 12-team playoff. And the 0:18:28.310 --> 0:18:30.949 texter said something, I'll just paraphrase it. 0:18:31.190 --> 0:18:33.450 Can't believe it's already ending. It seems like it just began. 0:18:33.510 --> 0:18:36.230 It's unbelievable. And they wanted to do it after one year. 0:18:36.950 --> 0:18:39.740