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Hell come all right. 37 00:01:48,600 --> 00:01:51,080 Speaker 2: So let's start with something very odd that's going on now. 38 00:01:51,400 --> 00:01:54,840 Speaker 2: We're sensing a trend here in the Republican Party, and 39 00:01:54,880 --> 00:01:59,240 Speaker 2: that is they are essentially banning the media from there. 40 00:01:59,720 --> 00:02:04,080 Speaker 2: What the dinners, the Lincoln Days, the big events, they 41 00:02:04,080 --> 00:02:07,680 Speaker 2: don't want the press. They're covering them a duel. You've 42 00:02:07,720 --> 00:02:10,680 Speaker 2: been a member of the media for twenty years now 43 00:02:10,720 --> 00:02:12,960 Speaker 2: in the Central Indiana. Have you ever seen this? We 44 00:02:12,960 --> 00:02:16,799 Speaker 2: saw this with the Fall Dinner. So the Republican State 45 00:02:16,800 --> 00:02:20,000 Speaker 2: Republic Party at their they have two big events a year. 46 00:02:20,560 --> 00:02:21,919 Speaker 3: This one was the Fall. 47 00:02:21,639 --> 00:02:24,240 Speaker 4: Dinner and what they said, no media, right, Yeah, And 48 00:02:24,280 --> 00:02:26,400 Speaker 4: I thought it was kind of odd because in the 49 00:02:26,440 --> 00:02:28,880 Speaker 4: past twenty years since I've been here, but it has 50 00:02:28,919 --> 00:02:31,760 Speaker 4: always been had sort of an unspoken invitation to the 51 00:02:31,800 --> 00:02:34,880 Speaker 4: Fall Dinners because it's an opportunity for political parties to 52 00:02:34,880 --> 00:02:37,280 Speaker 4: show unity, like, look, we've got a great team together. 53 00:02:37,320 --> 00:02:39,119 Speaker 3: We're going to kick butt in the in the cup. 54 00:02:39,120 --> 00:02:40,320 Speaker 3: Come elections, blah blah blah. 55 00:02:40,360 --> 00:02:42,960 Speaker 4: It's and usually the problem in the past I always 56 00:02:42,960 --> 00:02:45,040 Speaker 4: been getting the media, getting the media to show up 57 00:02:45,880 --> 00:02:48,799 Speaker 4: at these things. Yeah, because Marrick, you guys aren't giving 58 00:02:48,840 --> 00:02:50,919 Speaker 4: out like the nuclear codes that these things are. 59 00:02:50,800 --> 00:02:53,919 Speaker 5: You not at all? And you know, it's it's odd, 60 00:02:54,040 --> 00:02:58,440 Speaker 5: it's strange, it's it's actually awkward. When I was county chair. 61 00:02:58,520 --> 00:03:01,280 Speaker 5: When I was township chair, I was, I was the h. 62 00:03:02,120 --> 00:03:08,680 Speaker 5: Lawrence Township Republican Club president. We always if we had 63 00:03:08,720 --> 00:03:12,080 Speaker 5: a if we had a media member attend, it was 64 00:03:12,320 --> 00:03:15,639 Speaker 5: almost like a celebration because it's marketing exactly. 65 00:03:15,639 --> 00:03:15,880 Speaker 3: You know. 66 00:03:16,360 --> 00:03:19,720 Speaker 5: It's just we can show off that we're that we 67 00:03:19,840 --> 00:03:22,760 Speaker 5: have a lot of people there were raising money. Uh, 68 00:03:22,800 --> 00:03:25,960 Speaker 5: we are a threat to the Democrat Party. 69 00:03:26,160 --> 00:03:26,359 Speaker 3: Uh. 70 00:03:26,680 --> 00:03:30,040 Speaker 5: As well as it's an opportunity for our members of 71 00:03:30,080 --> 00:03:34,560 Speaker 5: the Indian Senate or legislature or the council or anybody 72 00:03:35,000 --> 00:03:36,960 Speaker 5: give it, get a chance to talk about what they're 73 00:03:37,000 --> 00:03:40,440 Speaker 5: working on. And it's really kind of different world. 74 00:03:40,520 --> 00:03:42,120 Speaker 4: At the other part of it two is if you 75 00:03:42,200 --> 00:03:44,440 Speaker 4: have like a big keynote speaker, it's a chance to highlight, 76 00:03:44,440 --> 00:03:46,080 Speaker 4: to speak like, hey, look you're You're not in some 77 00:03:46,160 --> 00:03:48,880 Speaker 4: rinky dank little podunk. We got all the know, all 78 00:03:48,880 --> 00:03:51,800 Speaker 4: the television networks here, the radios here, newspapers here, and 79 00:03:52,000 --> 00:03:54,640 Speaker 4: actually we give us a table the it was kind 80 00:03:54,640 --> 00:03:56,400 Speaker 4: of in the back, not necessarily in the front row seat, 81 00:03:56,400 --> 00:03:58,320 Speaker 4: but the table to back. We could app dinner if 82 00:03:58,320 --> 00:04:00,200 Speaker 4: we wanted. Some people took it. I did not. 83 00:04:01,520 --> 00:04:04,160 Speaker 2: Because you're you yes, you take it because you're you, 84 00:04:04,360 --> 00:04:06,680 Speaker 2: and you're the sort of guy who goes to someone's 85 00:04:06,720 --> 00:04:08,520 Speaker 2: funeral and finds a way to get free stuff. 86 00:04:08,560 --> 00:04:10,120 Speaker 3: And you know, that's a nice watch. 87 00:04:11,480 --> 00:04:15,720 Speaker 5: And you know, I remember Nikki Haley coming to Indiana 88 00:04:15,880 --> 00:04:17,120 Speaker 5: and and uh. 89 00:04:16,880 --> 00:04:19,400 Speaker 3: That was awful. I was at that one where I 90 00:04:19,400 --> 00:04:20,000 Speaker 3: got banned. 91 00:04:20,080 --> 00:04:22,000 Speaker 5: Well, I mean she had a beautiful dress on. 92 00:04:21,920 --> 00:04:24,640 Speaker 3: That she was awful. Yeah she was. Uh this was 93 00:04:24,680 --> 00:04:27,240 Speaker 3: like fIF twenty fifteen, I think, wasn't it. 94 00:04:27,400 --> 00:04:30,159 Speaker 5: Yeah, by But my my point was Paul Ryan was 95 00:04:30,200 --> 00:04:33,880 Speaker 5: there as well. And and you when those people enter 96 00:04:33,960 --> 00:04:37,040 Speaker 5: the room or enter the building is rich Charles if 97 00:04:37,040 --> 00:04:41,040 Speaker 5: you remember in Carmel, and they expect television cameras, they 98 00:04:41,080 --> 00:04:44,960 Speaker 5: expect media and and and that's that's just the start 99 00:04:45,000 --> 00:04:45,159 Speaker 5: of it. 100 00:04:45,640 --> 00:04:45,880 Speaker 3: Okay. 101 00:04:45,960 --> 00:04:48,200 Speaker 2: So yeah, my point all this is there's not some 102 00:04:48,320 --> 00:04:51,960 Speaker 2: big secret thing that takes place at these events. 103 00:04:52,000 --> 00:04:54,680 Speaker 3: It's you know, people get up and speak. They're giving 104 00:04:54,839 --> 00:04:57,360 Speaker 3: just basic perfunctory it's campaigning. 105 00:04:57,520 --> 00:04:59,200 Speaker 5: Yeah, generic, Yeah, parties do. 106 00:04:59,640 --> 00:05:03,479 Speaker 2: And so the Fall Dinner this year, they said what 107 00:05:04,080 --> 00:05:05,000 Speaker 2: no media allowed? 108 00:05:05,360 --> 00:05:07,839 Speaker 4: Uh basically yeah, because I remember send an email to 109 00:05:07,880 --> 00:05:10,200 Speaker 4: the State Party like, hey, I know you guys got 110 00:05:10,240 --> 00:05:14,520 Speaker 4: your Fall Dinner this week, it's gonna be a media table. 111 00:05:14,520 --> 00:05:15,839 Speaker 4: Don't need to be this place, need to plug in 112 00:05:15,920 --> 00:05:17,400 Speaker 4: like start of doing. But no media is allowed as 113 00:05:17,440 --> 00:05:19,200 Speaker 4: like what what what. 114 00:05:19,160 --> 00:05:20,680 Speaker 3: Do you mean? No media is allowed? 115 00:05:20,760 --> 00:05:24,640 Speaker 4: Like no media is allowed to Like okay, that's kind 116 00:05:24,640 --> 00:05:26,800 Speaker 4: of odd that you guys would do that. So I 117 00:05:26,839 --> 00:05:30,280 Speaker 4: went and check with former say Cheer people, like, hey, uh, 118 00:05:30,360 --> 00:05:33,200 Speaker 4: do you guys ever remember banning the media anytime? I 119 00:05:33,240 --> 00:05:35,520 Speaker 4: think there was one time where there was was there 120 00:05:35,560 --> 00:05:37,920 Speaker 4: was a discussion about leaving the media out, but Mike 121 00:05:37,920 --> 00:05:39,560 Speaker 4: pinc was like, no, we're not gonna do that was 122 00:05:39,600 --> 00:05:42,200 Speaker 4: doing during the Pens administration, Like one fall dinner thing 123 00:05:42,200 --> 00:05:43,920 Speaker 4: I think this was, but that was it. Any twenty 124 00:05:44,000 --> 00:05:46,800 Speaker 4: years I've been here, never has the media not been 125 00:05:47,320 --> 00:05:49,560 Speaker 4: invited to a tend Okay, so. 126 00:05:49,600 --> 00:05:50,680 Speaker 3: That was the fall dinner. 127 00:05:50,720 --> 00:05:52,880 Speaker 2: And like Nikki Kelly, I think back to stuff from 128 00:05:52,880 --> 00:05:55,640 Speaker 2: the Capitol Chronicle. Many of your colleagues went through this. 129 00:05:56,080 --> 00:05:58,279 Speaker 2: Then fast forward to I guess this would have. 130 00:05:58,279 --> 00:05:59,080 Speaker 3: Been Monday night. 131 00:05:59,640 --> 00:06:05,080 Speaker 2: There was an event in Owen County and Braun was there, 132 00:06:05,680 --> 00:06:10,360 Speaker 2: Micah was there, your pal Rod Bray was there, and 133 00:06:10,600 --> 00:06:12,839 Speaker 2: they basically said the same. 134 00:06:12,720 --> 00:06:15,279 Speaker 4: Thing, Yeah, there's no media is not a lot of 135 00:06:15,279 --> 00:06:17,520 Speaker 4: like but like, first of all, this is Owen County 136 00:06:17,880 --> 00:06:20,839 Speaker 4: and most of it like the Owen County Daily Register, right, 137 00:06:20,920 --> 00:06:25,279 Speaker 4: and maybe woe in radio, and you know, like I 138 00:06:25,320 --> 00:06:29,360 Speaker 4: don't understand your logic and rationale, and I thought about 139 00:06:29,360 --> 00:06:30,599 Speaker 4: buying a ticket, like, you know what, I'm not going 140 00:06:30,680 --> 00:06:32,480 Speaker 4: to spend forty bucks in my heart and money or 141 00:06:32,520 --> 00:06:33,520 Speaker 4: drive down for this crap. 142 00:06:33,600 --> 00:06:35,280 Speaker 3: Because that was the other thing is they said. 143 00:06:35,279 --> 00:06:37,800 Speaker 2: At one point their rebuttal was, well, the media's not 144 00:06:37,800 --> 00:06:39,479 Speaker 2: being they can just buy a ticket. So it's like, 145 00:06:39,480 --> 00:06:41,520 Speaker 2: wait a second, the media has to give you money 146 00:06:41,560 --> 00:06:44,400 Speaker 2: to cover you. That doesn't seem very freedom of the 147 00:06:44,480 --> 00:06:46,480 Speaker 2: press type of a type of thing, does it. 148 00:06:46,600 --> 00:06:46,680 Speaker 3: No? 149 00:06:46,800 --> 00:06:48,800 Speaker 4: But but here's the thing though, and I will say this, 150 00:06:50,360 --> 00:06:52,359 Speaker 4: it is a if it's a government of event, the 151 00:06:52,400 --> 00:06:54,760 Speaker 4: media must have access for the most part. If it 152 00:06:54,839 --> 00:06:57,080 Speaker 4: is a private event, and these are political parties a 153 00:06:57,160 --> 00:07:00,320 Speaker 4: Republican party or in count Republican Party, Democratic libertarian, the 154 00:07:00,400 --> 00:07:03,520 Speaker 4: media has no right to to to to attend, so 155 00:07:03,640 --> 00:07:08,680 Speaker 4: that that illegally they are within their rights to do that. However, optically, 156 00:07:09,400 --> 00:07:11,720 Speaker 4: all you it doesn't make any sense. Number two, why 157 00:07:11,760 --> 00:07:14,280 Speaker 4: would you make an enemy? Well, right, And what I mean, mare, 158 00:07:14,400 --> 00:07:15,280 Speaker 4: what are they so worried about? 159 00:07:15,400 --> 00:07:18,480 Speaker 2: Mike is gonna get a question about the grand jury investigation? 160 00:07:18,600 --> 00:07:20,040 Speaker 3: Like what what are they afraid of? 161 00:07:20,600 --> 00:07:24,400 Speaker 5: I'm just sitting here thinking about what where is the 162 00:07:24,440 --> 00:07:29,120 Speaker 5: fear here? And and why what are they going to 163 00:07:29,200 --> 00:07:32,200 Speaker 5: say that that that they haven't said already in the 164 00:07:32,280 --> 00:07:35,560 Speaker 5: last nine or ten months. You know, you know it's 165 00:07:36,680 --> 00:07:41,680 Speaker 5: they it's uh, it's what it probably it comes down 166 00:07:41,720 --> 00:07:45,720 Speaker 5: to is that it is an overwhelming Republican state, a 167 00:07:45,800 --> 00:07:50,280 Speaker 5: supermajority state. We have all the offices, and we can 168 00:07:50,320 --> 00:07:53,040 Speaker 5: do what we want to do, and it's and it's 169 00:07:53,080 --> 00:07:56,160 Speaker 5: our ball and we we took it and uh we're 170 00:07:56,200 --> 00:08:00,160 Speaker 5: actually hiding it abduall and and uh for now uh 171 00:08:00,200 --> 00:08:04,760 Speaker 5: and and you know, it's it's a it's a demonstration 172 00:08:05,080 --> 00:08:10,040 Speaker 5: of a majority that feels as though they can make 173 00:08:10,080 --> 00:08:10,520 Speaker 5: the rules. 174 00:08:10,800 --> 00:08:12,840 Speaker 4: But even even in the early days of super majority, 175 00:08:13,160 --> 00:08:15,600 Speaker 4: we still had access. Yes, I mean when back in 176 00:08:15,640 --> 00:08:18,440 Speaker 4: twenty ten Republicans took everything and say, hey, we're going to. 177 00:08:18,400 --> 00:08:20,520 Speaker 5: Keep the media out that that. But it's a cast 178 00:08:20,600 --> 00:08:22,280 Speaker 5: different casts of characters of leaders. 179 00:08:22,360 --> 00:08:24,680 Speaker 4: Yeah, and that's what I think is different that the 180 00:08:24,760 --> 00:08:28,000 Speaker 4: leadership at the top has changed and people don't realize 181 00:08:28,040 --> 00:08:30,080 Speaker 4: people these people don't remember the days of fifty two 182 00:08:30,160 --> 00:08:31,400 Speaker 4: forty eight, right. 183 00:08:31,360 --> 00:08:35,000 Speaker 5: Yeah, oh yeah, yeah. It's like kids don't remember recessions 184 00:08:35,040 --> 00:08:37,560 Speaker 5: and things like that. Yeah, they never experience. 185 00:08:37,640 --> 00:08:39,079 Speaker 3: And here's the other part. I still found out what 186 00:08:39,080 --> 00:08:39,880 Speaker 3: we said, what happened? 187 00:08:39,920 --> 00:08:42,240 Speaker 2: Well, right, I mean that's but it's like, what what 188 00:08:42,360 --> 00:08:44,480 Speaker 2: is the what are you guys saying on that stage? 189 00:08:44,520 --> 00:08:46,600 Speaker 3: That is so egregious? 190 00:08:46,640 --> 00:08:49,520 Speaker 4: But for example, I know Mike bron got very polite 191 00:08:49,600 --> 00:08:52,199 Speaker 4: golf applause. I'm being generous with that. Half the people 192 00:08:52,240 --> 00:08:53,640 Speaker 4: just sat there with their arms fold and the other 193 00:08:53,679 --> 00:08:57,240 Speaker 4: people just said, like no, sarcastic clapping. Families said out alive. 194 00:08:57,840 --> 00:09:00,960 Speaker 5: Bit you know, Abdul I, I think if I were you, 195 00:09:01,120 --> 00:09:04,520 Speaker 5: I probably would have spent the forty dollars just to 196 00:09:04,559 --> 00:09:05,480 Speaker 5: stick it in their face. 197 00:09:06,120 --> 00:09:07,680 Speaker 3: Oh we got no, we have plans for that. 198 00:09:07,760 --> 00:09:10,440 Speaker 2: Okay, Well, but is it really all that much different 199 00:09:10,600 --> 00:09:12,800 Speaker 2: than what I went through whatever a month month and 200 00:09:12,840 --> 00:09:16,319 Speaker 2: a half ago, in which the Hendricks County Republican Party 201 00:09:16,320 --> 00:09:17,880 Speaker 2: somebody was gonna let me go as their guests and 202 00:09:17,920 --> 00:09:21,760 Speaker 2: they basically said, eh, not bringing him. And they did 203 00:09:21,760 --> 00:09:26,559 Speaker 2: that because they were worried Diego was Diego Morales, Secretary 204 00:09:26,559 --> 00:09:28,640 Speaker 2: of State, was going to get asked again, just like 205 00:09:28,640 --> 00:09:31,360 Speaker 2: in Clay County, who paid for you trip to India 206 00:09:31,679 --> 00:09:33,319 Speaker 2: and he had a complete meltdown. 207 00:09:33,440 --> 00:09:35,280 Speaker 5: They don't want the disruption now that. 208 00:09:35,280 --> 00:09:38,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, they they they Micah was going to get asked, hey, 209 00:09:39,160 --> 00:09:41,000 Speaker 2: how'd you end up with a known felon at Game 210 00:09:41,040 --> 00:09:44,480 Speaker 2: three of the NBA Finals And instead of addressing the candidates, 211 00:09:44,760 --> 00:09:47,040 Speaker 2: ended up addressing their office holders and going, hey, clean 212 00:09:47,080 --> 00:09:49,920 Speaker 2: your act up. They'd rather just say, well, nobody can 213 00:09:49,920 --> 00:09:51,240 Speaker 2: ask him any questions, then. 214 00:09:51,200 --> 00:09:52,160 Speaker 3: We don't have to worry about it. 215 00:09:52,520 --> 00:09:57,160 Speaker 5: Yeah, it's it's it's ugly. It is an ugly, ugly thing. 216 00:09:57,200 --> 00:09:59,440 Speaker 4: And at the end of the day, what I don't 217 00:09:59,480 --> 00:10:03,120 Speaker 4: think these people understand, whoever is making these decisions, This 218 00:10:03,160 --> 00:10:07,359 Speaker 4: is a short term gain for some major long term consequences, 219 00:10:07,640 --> 00:10:09,880 Speaker 4: and people don't understand because eventually you're gonna eat the 220 00:10:09,920 --> 00:10:11,520 Speaker 4: media because one of your people is gonna do something 221 00:10:11,559 --> 00:10:13,640 Speaker 4: really stupid and get cover their hands in the cookie 222 00:10:13,679 --> 00:10:16,120 Speaker 4: jar or body part in somebody else's body part, and 223 00:10:16,160 --> 00:10:18,000 Speaker 4: there's gonna be a story about it. They're gonna be 224 00:10:18,000 --> 00:10:19,840 Speaker 4: trying to spin everything and it's not gonna work. 225 00:10:20,360 --> 00:10:21,840 Speaker 3: He's speaking of Braun and Micah. 226 00:10:21,880 --> 00:10:24,520 Speaker 2: They looked real chummy up there on stage together for 227 00:10:24,559 --> 00:10:27,640 Speaker 2: a guy like Micah who ran against being the check 228 00:10:27,679 --> 00:10:28,800 Speaker 2: and balance on Braun. 229 00:10:28,840 --> 00:10:30,280 Speaker 3: And I'm gonna hold him accountable. 230 00:10:30,280 --> 00:10:33,000 Speaker 2: And when this happens or that happens, I'm gonna speak 231 00:10:33,080 --> 00:10:35,320 Speaker 2: up and speak out. Boy, he's sure got in line 232 00:10:35,320 --> 00:10:38,800 Speaker 2: real quick. And what is Braun doing given the cloud 233 00:10:39,160 --> 00:10:44,680 Speaker 2: zah plural of scandal around Micah, what what is he doing? 234 00:10:45,800 --> 00:10:48,080 Speaker 4: I would say he's running our state? I would say 235 00:10:48,120 --> 00:10:50,920 Speaker 4: probably in this situation here, it's a class to keep 236 00:10:50,960 --> 00:10:54,320 Speaker 4: your friends close, but your enemy's closer. And by keeping 237 00:10:54,520 --> 00:10:56,440 Speaker 4: uh like a close and showing up with and they 238 00:10:56,480 --> 00:10:58,600 Speaker 4: kind of I believe their theory is they keep them 239 00:10:58,559 --> 00:11:00,640 Speaker 4: on a leash, or at least keep under some kind 240 00:11:00,679 --> 00:11:02,000 Speaker 4: of control. But you know as well as I do, 241 00:11:02,240 --> 00:11:03,360 Speaker 4: that's not going to work. 242 00:11:03,920 --> 00:11:04,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean. 243 00:11:04,679 --> 00:11:07,719 Speaker 2: He looks like he looks well. First of all, I 244 00:11:07,800 --> 00:11:11,600 Speaker 2: mean Micah was a total fraudster. He had zero intent 245 00:11:11,640 --> 00:11:15,520 Speaker 2: of ever holding anyone accountable for anything, So that that's 246 00:11:15,559 --> 00:11:18,440 Speaker 2: one part of it. But if you're Braun, you know 247 00:11:18,480 --> 00:11:21,240 Speaker 2: what's alleged to be going on with this guy in 248 00:11:21,280 --> 00:11:24,040 Speaker 2: his office and you're sitting up there on a stage 249 00:11:24,040 --> 00:11:26,120 Speaker 2: with him and people are taking photographs and everything else. 250 00:11:26,240 --> 00:11:28,480 Speaker 2: So now you can't do the me so stupid routine. 251 00:11:28,840 --> 00:11:33,040 Speaker 2: Whatever comes out on Micah, you're essentially embracing it by 252 00:11:33,040 --> 00:11:34,439 Speaker 2: being up there on a stage with him. 253 00:11:34,559 --> 00:11:38,840 Speaker 5: But have we ever seen the governor schooled in public? 254 00:11:38,960 --> 00:11:43,080 Speaker 5: So this this is nothing new that they they're they're 255 00:11:43,120 --> 00:11:46,360 Speaker 5: still quote unquote working together and being on the same 256 00:11:46,400 --> 00:11:49,800 Speaker 5: stage together, and they're they're still in lockstep, and and 257 00:11:49,800 --> 00:11:53,200 Speaker 5: and uh and beck With has been relatively quiet for 258 00:11:53,240 --> 00:11:55,760 Speaker 5: a while and uh and not really gotten out on 259 00:11:55,800 --> 00:12:00,920 Speaker 5: a on a limb that would would be nextative about Braun. 260 00:12:01,040 --> 00:12:03,480 Speaker 3: So he's been a good boy since property taxes. 261 00:12:03,520 --> 00:12:06,040 Speaker 2: He was very vocal about property taxes till Braun made 262 00:12:06,080 --> 00:12:08,400 Speaker 2: his choice and then he basically put his head in 263 00:12:08,400 --> 00:12:09,120 Speaker 2: the sand after that. 264 00:12:09,200 --> 00:12:13,719 Speaker 5: And his Braun will continue to embrace him when that behavior, 265 00:12:14,920 --> 00:12:16,840 Speaker 5: you know, when that behavior warrans it. 266 00:12:16,920 --> 00:12:20,480 Speaker 4: I would argue that probably why mister Beckwood has gone 267 00:12:20,840 --> 00:12:23,559 Speaker 4: I would say mostly dark, is because the current scandal 268 00:12:23,600 --> 00:12:25,880 Speaker 4: involving a pastor of the New Black Church and pastor's 269 00:12:25,880 --> 00:12:29,280 Speaker 4: son that I would argue with that that's probably like, hey, Mike, 270 00:12:29,280 --> 00:12:30,480 Speaker 4: he'd be able to need to just shut up for 271 00:12:30,480 --> 00:12:33,400 Speaker 4: a little while and dial back the dial back the 272 00:12:33,480 --> 00:12:36,000 Speaker 4: rhetoric until this whole thing blows over. Because every time 273 00:12:36,000 --> 00:12:38,719 Speaker 4: you talk and kind of say something superd about no 274 00:12:38,800 --> 00:12:40,880 Speaker 4: this or this or this, and groomers like, well what 275 00:12:40,920 --> 00:12:43,560 Speaker 4: about the guy son and your church? So probably from 276 00:12:43,679 --> 00:12:46,400 Speaker 4: from a legal perspective, Michael's like, hey, it's just best 277 00:12:46,440 --> 00:12:47,559 Speaker 4: to just taper off for a while. 278 00:12:47,600 --> 00:12:50,240 Speaker 2: Well, okay, And this is what's fascinating to me about 279 00:12:50,240 --> 00:12:54,040 Speaker 2: Braun just appearing to come off as totally subservient to 280 00:12:54,120 --> 00:12:58,880 Speaker 2: basically everyone, which is, can you imagine like Becky Skill, 281 00:12:58,960 --> 00:13:00,760 Speaker 2: let's just say Becky skilling it and been involved in 282 00:13:00,800 --> 00:13:03,120 Speaker 2: some sort of scandal, Not that Chipper would have been, 283 00:13:03,160 --> 00:13:05,600 Speaker 2: but like if that would have happened, can you imagine 284 00:13:05,600 --> 00:13:08,679 Speaker 2: Mitch Daniels just rolling out to some event and being 285 00:13:09,080 --> 00:13:09,360 Speaker 2: you know. 286 00:13:09,360 --> 00:13:12,000 Speaker 4: Well, actually they did have a bit of a scandal. Uh, 287 00:13:12,120 --> 00:13:13,720 Speaker 4: the old director of the BMV was caught in the 288 00:13:13,760 --> 00:13:17,040 Speaker 4: men's room. Yeah, but that wasn't Becky se no, no, no, no, no, 289 00:13:17,160 --> 00:13:20,080 Speaker 4: but no, but it was it was Abet Cabinet secretary 290 00:13:20,080 --> 00:13:22,480 Speaker 4: head of the B and B you got caught, you know, 291 00:13:22,520 --> 00:13:24,679 Speaker 4: doing something what's supposed to be doing. And Miss Jenner's like, hey, 292 00:13:24,679 --> 00:13:26,800 Speaker 4: we're not We're not going to tolerate this, and he 293 00:13:26,880 --> 00:13:28,199 Speaker 4: was gone, yeah, well. 294 00:13:28,080 --> 00:13:31,120 Speaker 2: Right right, that's my point. And now, look, bron can't 295 00:13:31,120 --> 00:13:34,320 Speaker 2: fire Micah, but he certainly was under no obligation to 296 00:13:34,400 --> 00:13:36,320 Speaker 2: send stand up there on a stage with him. He 297 00:13:36,320 --> 00:13:38,520 Speaker 2: could have said, pick one of us, you canna have him, 298 00:13:38,559 --> 00:13:40,000 Speaker 2: or you gonna have me. We ain't doing both. 299 00:13:40,080 --> 00:13:43,760 Speaker 3: And if you're Rod Bray, this thing just came about 300 00:13:43,760 --> 00:13:46,520 Speaker 3: at the reprimand Bray had to give Micah during the session, 301 00:13:46,720 --> 00:13:49,600 Speaker 3: what's he doing up there with these people? Yeah, that's 302 00:13:49,600 --> 00:13:53,199 Speaker 3: in Rod's district. Yeah, but what's he doing up there 303 00:13:53,240 --> 00:13:54,080 Speaker 3: with these people? 304 00:13:54,400 --> 00:13:58,480 Speaker 2: Again that Braun and Bray are way more powerful than Micah, 305 00:13:58,520 --> 00:14:01,040 Speaker 2: Like they have the ability to go pick you know, 306 00:14:01,679 --> 00:14:04,000 Speaker 2: choo choose wisely, right, you can't have. 307 00:14:04,040 --> 00:14:05,280 Speaker 3: Us both it. 308 00:14:05,640 --> 00:14:09,080 Speaker 5: Uh. I was really surprised seeing Center Bray up there 309 00:14:09,200 --> 00:14:12,319 Speaker 5: on on the dais because he doesn't travel much. Uh, 310 00:14:12,559 --> 00:14:16,240 Speaker 5: You're seeing him more and more with with stops on 311 00:14:16,280 --> 00:14:20,480 Speaker 5: a on a campaign trail. Uh. He just won re election. Uh. 312 00:14:20,560 --> 00:14:23,560 Speaker 5: And and and so he has to be out there 313 00:14:23,600 --> 00:14:27,560 Speaker 5: because of this crisis with the redistricting and his caucus 314 00:14:27,600 --> 00:14:31,800 Speaker 5: going uh every which way away from what the decision 315 00:14:31,800 --> 00:14:35,480 Speaker 5: of the caucus actually was. And uh uh he's he's 316 00:14:35,560 --> 00:14:39,280 Speaker 5: being a lot more accessible and uh but I was 317 00:14:39,320 --> 00:14:42,880 Speaker 5: surprised to see uh Braun and back with and Bray 318 00:14:43,760 --> 00:14:48,880 Speaker 5: up on the dais altogether and uh it it kind 319 00:14:48,880 --> 00:14:52,640 Speaker 5: of reminds me back with the Holcombe let Holcomb government 320 00:14:52,680 --> 00:14:58,960 Speaker 5: hokem and legislature collision and and how they you know, 321 00:14:59,000 --> 00:15:02,760 Speaker 5: they were lucky that they had to be in COVID, 322 00:15:02,800 --> 00:15:04,720 Speaker 5: they had to be at home and they didn't have 323 00:15:04,760 --> 00:15:10,840 Speaker 5: to appear together. 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It's an early start to the regular session. 360 00:17:09,280 --> 00:17:11,600 Speaker 4: It's not it's not even really an early start because 361 00:17:11,600 --> 00:17:13,040 Speaker 4: session officially begins on organization. 362 00:17:13,160 --> 00:17:15,359 Speaker 2: Yeah, but they're normally not here in December doing stuff. 363 00:17:15,560 --> 00:17:17,879 Speaker 2: We're spending all the money the taxpayers gave them throughout 364 00:17:17,880 --> 00:17:18,560 Speaker 2: the course of the year. 365 00:17:18,720 --> 00:17:20,959 Speaker 4: No, but no, But actually are they are, actually are 366 00:17:21,000 --> 00:17:23,480 Speaker 4: working because they're putting bills together in the whole nine yards. 367 00:17:23,680 --> 00:17:26,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, but they're not normally here debating. 368 00:17:26,400 --> 00:17:29,200 Speaker 5: You know, there was only one time in thirty years 369 00:17:29,240 --> 00:17:34,360 Speaker 5: I remember our having committee hearings in September or excuse me, December, 370 00:17:34,960 --> 00:17:39,080 Speaker 5: and uh, but we are they they are in session, 371 00:17:39,280 --> 00:17:43,359 Speaker 5: you're out. Yeah, they are in session. You chose to 372 00:17:43,359 --> 00:17:46,639 Speaker 5: hang out with us. Horrible move on your part. I 373 00:17:46,960 --> 00:17:48,600 Speaker 5: when I look at it, sometimes not. 374 00:17:51,160 --> 00:17:54,680 Speaker 4: I gotta give you that don't get very often. 375 00:17:56,600 --> 00:18:00,200 Speaker 5: But when when when you look at it, they are 376 00:18:00,240 --> 00:18:05,440 Speaker 5: in organization day starts this session of the legislature and 377 00:18:05,680 --> 00:18:10,440 Speaker 5: in December it's it's never in my time and anybody 378 00:18:10,480 --> 00:18:14,560 Speaker 5: else's time have they had a session day in December? 379 00:18:14,600 --> 00:18:18,360 Speaker 5: And they will have those in this coming December. And 380 00:18:19,119 --> 00:18:22,840 Speaker 5: it's quite odd. I think I made a joke on 381 00:18:23,000 --> 00:18:26,840 Speaker 5: air last week that maybe they could just elongate that 382 00:18:26,880 --> 00:18:29,080 Speaker 5: for a couple of days and take care of all 383 00:18:29,119 --> 00:18:31,800 Speaker 5: the business and not be in Session twenty six. 384 00:18:31,960 --> 00:18:34,520 Speaker 3: Or just come in. No, we're gaveling. 385 00:18:34,640 --> 00:18:39,160 Speaker 4: Okay, we're here, Okay, here, We'll reconvene at the fall 386 00:18:39,200 --> 00:18:40,960 Speaker 4: of the gavel on January third. 387 00:18:41,280 --> 00:18:42,520 Speaker 3: Have a nice day, goodbye. 388 00:18:42,600 --> 00:18:42,800 Speaker 5: Yep. 389 00:18:43,000 --> 00:18:45,600 Speaker 4: Which way I could perfectly see that happen. Because one 390 00:18:45,600 --> 00:18:48,400 Speaker 4: thing that the team Broun has done, I would say 391 00:18:48,400 --> 00:18:49,880 Speaker 4: half a team Braun is time, because I know Team 392 00:18:49,880 --> 00:18:52,159 Speaker 4: bron is totally split on this whole redistric thing to 393 00:18:52,160 --> 00:18:54,200 Speaker 4: begin with, like, hey, you need to call a special 394 00:18:54,240 --> 00:18:57,080 Speaker 4: session now because it's not like Governor the votes aren't there. 395 00:18:57,520 --> 00:19:00,200 Speaker 4: Don't do it. Don't do it, don't do it. I'm 396 00:19:00,200 --> 00:19:02,560 Speaker 4: doing it anyway. Okay, be careful what you wish for. 397 00:19:02,720 --> 00:19:04,600 Speaker 4: It just might get it. And this is the way 398 00:19:04,640 --> 00:19:06,760 Speaker 4: the legislature kind of sticking their middle finger, both middle 399 00:19:06,800 --> 00:19:09,119 Speaker 4: fingers in stereo to the governor's office. 400 00:19:09,200 --> 00:19:13,680 Speaker 2: Yeah okay, So Eric, Eric Coke, he is a senator 401 00:19:13,720 --> 00:19:14,879 Speaker 2: from Bedford. 402 00:19:15,440 --> 00:19:19,080 Speaker 5: All right, yeah Bedford? Yeah you're are you making phone? 403 00:19:19,119 --> 00:19:21,880 Speaker 5: His last name is Cook? Oh it is Cook, Yes, 404 00:19:21,960 --> 00:19:25,359 Speaker 5: it's Cook. Yeah all right, like the brothers. Yeah, no, 405 00:19:25,600 --> 00:19:27,720 Speaker 5: Coke are the brothers. That's why I thought it was 406 00:19:28,160 --> 00:19:29,000 Speaker 5: that that was Eric. 407 00:19:29,119 --> 00:19:33,720 Speaker 4: That's a drink what No, No, Cook, Coke. He'll be 408 00:19:33,800 --> 00:19:36,840 Speaker 4: there with good good Yeah, Cook Coke, good good. 409 00:19:36,880 --> 00:19:40,359 Speaker 2: Whatever this guy's name is, however, he's Coke, Yeah whatever, 410 00:19:40,440 --> 00:19:42,720 Speaker 2: Cook doesn't matter. This is the same guy that drew 411 00:19:42,760 --> 00:19:47,160 Speaker 2: the maps Yes into in twenty twenty one and said 412 00:19:47,160 --> 00:19:48,240 Speaker 2: how great the maps were. 413 00:19:48,640 --> 00:19:49,399 Speaker 3: And now he's coming out. 414 00:19:49,440 --> 00:19:51,240 Speaker 2: I was like, we got a redistrict, and I mean, 415 00:19:51,280 --> 00:19:53,400 Speaker 2: the Capitol Chronicle a big article about this. This guy 416 00:19:53,400 --> 00:19:55,600 Speaker 2: looks like a complete idiot, and it just shows how 417 00:19:55,720 --> 00:20:00,639 Speaker 2: unprincipled all these people are. Coke, Cook, any any of 418 00:20:00,720 --> 00:20:03,680 Speaker 2: them right, that that clearly people don't want this. Oh 419 00:20:03,720 --> 00:20:05,760 Speaker 2: I heard from my constituents, you know, as none of 420 00:20:05,760 --> 00:20:08,840 Speaker 2: these people they claim they've heard of all the constituents 421 00:20:08,840 --> 00:20:11,040 Speaker 2: are producing any of it. Get the people who are 422 00:20:11,080 --> 00:20:14,760 Speaker 2: hearing negatively. Hey, we're having town halls. Everybody can see it. 423 00:20:15,600 --> 00:20:18,040 Speaker 2: This guy looks like a complete idiot after being so 424 00:20:18,119 --> 00:20:20,280 Speaker 2: emphatic in twenty one about how great the maps were 425 00:20:20,280 --> 00:20:23,360 Speaker 2: that he helped put together, and now we got to redistrict. 426 00:20:23,640 --> 00:20:25,840 Speaker 4: Well, my thing is now, I've known Eric for years. 427 00:20:25,880 --> 00:20:28,399 Speaker 4: He's also an attorney. We appeared together in court a 428 00:20:28,440 --> 00:20:31,520 Speaker 4: couple of times. That's the same hearing on different things. 429 00:20:32,119 --> 00:20:33,639 Speaker 4: I'm gonna gi him a call like, hey, Eric, this 430 00:20:33,720 --> 00:20:38,399 Speaker 4: is abduel. What's going on here? And was it calls? 431 00:20:38,560 --> 00:20:38,600 Speaker 5: Was? 432 00:20:38,760 --> 00:20:42,199 Speaker 4: Are you worried about a primary challenge? Somebody gonna put 433 00:20:42,240 --> 00:20:44,840 Speaker 4: the sticks to you. I'll find out what's what's going 434 00:20:44,880 --> 00:20:45,920 Speaker 4: on here, one one way. 435 00:20:45,880 --> 00:20:47,159 Speaker 3: Or the other. You know. 436 00:20:47,280 --> 00:20:51,920 Speaker 5: Senator Cook is a principal person. He is longtime state 437 00:20:51,960 --> 00:20:56,080 Speaker 5: representative for attorney general. One time, uh took my place 438 00:20:56,119 --> 00:20:59,280 Speaker 5: as chairman of the Energy Committee in the Senate. 439 00:20:59,000 --> 00:21:00,720 Speaker 3: When I'm doing a horrible job. 440 00:21:01,400 --> 00:21:03,160 Speaker 2: Well, he's the guy that there was the big article 441 00:21:03,160 --> 00:21:06,480 Speaker 2: in the Indie Star about how much money him and 442 00:21:06,520 --> 00:21:09,720 Speaker 2: his counterpart on the other side, Soliday, had gotten from 443 00:21:09,720 --> 00:21:10,920 Speaker 2: these utility companies. 444 00:21:11,040 --> 00:21:14,199 Speaker 5: Well, Senator Cook, I was really surprised that he that 445 00:21:14,240 --> 00:21:19,120 Speaker 5: he's changed his mind, because to a person, the legislature 446 00:21:19,240 --> 00:21:23,080 Speaker 5: is very proud of those twenty twenty one maps that 447 00:21:23,160 --> 00:21:28,440 Speaker 5: they drew years ago, and and so I registered surprise 448 00:21:29,000 --> 00:21:32,680 Speaker 5: when when Eric changed his mind. I don't know if 449 00:21:32,680 --> 00:21:35,639 Speaker 5: it's changed his mind because I never heard anything in 450 00:21:35,680 --> 00:21:41,600 Speaker 5: the beginning, but established his position this last week on 451 00:21:41,600 --> 00:21:46,359 Speaker 5: on voting for the maps or redistricting. And maybe they've 452 00:21:46,400 --> 00:21:49,040 Speaker 5: seen Abdul, maybe they've seen maps that I have not 453 00:21:49,160 --> 00:21:51,639 Speaker 5: seen because they're not in public. 454 00:21:51,880 --> 00:21:52,080 Speaker 3: Jim. 455 00:21:52,119 --> 00:21:53,920 Speaker 2: I mean, if you if you spend all that time 456 00:21:54,040 --> 00:21:57,200 Speaker 2: drawing those maps of the public hearings and we're checking 457 00:21:57,200 --> 00:21:59,680 Speaker 2: all these bodis data data data, and you come out 458 00:21:59,680 --> 00:22:01,720 Speaker 2: and go there great, which I think most people, which 459 00:22:01,760 --> 00:22:05,119 Speaker 2: is why there was no lawsuit, uniformly agreed. Even a 460 00:22:05,160 --> 00:22:06,800 Speaker 2: lot of Democrats are like, well, we'd like for it 461 00:22:06,840 --> 00:22:08,800 Speaker 2: to be six to three, but this is probably the 462 00:22:08,800 --> 00:22:10,760 Speaker 2: best we're gonna do. Yeah, there was like a uniform 463 00:22:10,800 --> 00:22:12,000 Speaker 2: agreement these maps are pretty good. 464 00:22:12,119 --> 00:22:14,560 Speaker 5: Yeah, the maps were perfect in a lot of eyes 465 00:22:14,680 --> 00:22:17,160 Speaker 5: over there. And that's what that's why I was so 466 00:22:17,200 --> 00:22:24,000 Speaker 5: surprised by because they they really worked those maps last time, 467 00:22:24,080 --> 00:22:28,720 Speaker 5: so no lawsuits. They did a really good job on 468 00:22:28,800 --> 00:22:31,679 Speaker 5: those maps, utilizing all the situations and data. 469 00:22:31,720 --> 00:22:33,120 Speaker 2: And the other part of this is so they're at 470 00:22:33,160 --> 00:22:35,800 Speaker 2: thirteen now, they got to get twenty five. Mike, I'm 471 00:22:35,800 --> 00:22:37,760 Speaker 2: sure we'll bend the need of braun and cast the 472 00:22:37,800 --> 00:22:42,159 Speaker 2: tye breakers vote. Certainly, they're at thirteen, which means they 473 00:22:42,160 --> 00:22:46,040 Speaker 2: got a flip twelve. He was number thirteen. Cook Coke 474 00:22:46,400 --> 00:22:51,560 Speaker 2: was number was number thirteen. And you look at it though, 475 00:22:51,600 --> 00:22:54,520 Speaker 2: and go, we've been at this for about five months. 476 00:22:54,760 --> 00:22:56,880 Speaker 2: What'd you hear in the last week that you didn't 477 00:22:56,880 --> 00:22:59,520 Speaker 2: hear in the previous you know, four and a half 478 00:22:59,560 --> 00:23:02,439 Speaker 2: five months? Like what now you just look bad at 479 00:23:02,480 --> 00:23:05,280 Speaker 2: this way, going okay, sure, yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm with 480 00:23:05,320 --> 00:23:05,760 Speaker 2: you guys. 481 00:23:05,840 --> 00:23:06,840 Speaker 5: Well you know there. 482 00:23:07,400 --> 00:23:09,760 Speaker 3: He's up for election in twenty twenty six. Well there 483 00:23:09,840 --> 00:23:13,280 Speaker 3: you go, boy out. Well we answer that one quick, 484 00:23:13,320 --> 00:23:13,879 Speaker 3: didn't you know? 485 00:23:13,960 --> 00:23:16,360 Speaker 5: There's a lot too the idea of ripping the band 486 00:23:16,400 --> 00:23:18,920 Speaker 5: aid off in August when nobody's watching it. Sure, and 487 00:23:19,960 --> 00:23:24,040 Speaker 5: that's when the Life Special Session was if you remember correctly. 488 00:23:24,440 --> 00:23:29,640 Speaker 5: And also the idea of you know, there's no new 489 00:23:29,800 --> 00:23:34,680 Speaker 5: data coming on here, but uh, you know Sarah Cook 490 00:23:34,800 --> 00:23:38,360 Speaker 5: is a leader in that caucus and they have thirteen 491 00:23:38,440 --> 00:23:40,560 Speaker 5: and last week you and I talked on the air 492 00:23:42,280 --> 00:23:46,280 Speaker 5: rob about the idea that why why is the House? 493 00:23:46,320 --> 00:23:49,200 Speaker 5: And I saw this countless times in Abdullah. You have too, 494 00:23:49,800 --> 00:23:53,080 Speaker 5: when when someone would say in the House of Representatives, 495 00:23:53,200 --> 00:23:56,000 Speaker 5: you know, the votes are not there in the Senate, 496 00:23:56,720 --> 00:23:59,560 Speaker 5: why are we passing this and getting out on a limb? 497 00:24:00,160 --> 00:24:03,359 Speaker 5: Obviously they are all up for reelection in twenty twenty 498 00:24:03,400 --> 00:24:07,520 Speaker 5: six and uh and they and they're hearing the hoof beats. Uh, 499 00:24:07,560 --> 00:24:09,440 Speaker 5: and so you can see why. 500 00:24:10,119 --> 00:24:10,239 Speaker 3: Uh. 501 00:24:10,600 --> 00:24:13,760 Speaker 5: You know there there are aggressive people out there that 502 00:24:13,800 --> 00:24:17,879 Speaker 5: are that that want change in these maps and and 503 00:24:17,920 --> 00:24:21,280 Speaker 5: they're listening to the screaming out there in districts. 504 00:24:21,359 --> 00:24:23,400 Speaker 4: And by the way, and what I don't think people 505 00:24:23,400 --> 00:24:26,600 Speaker 4: fully understand or appreciate it is drawing the maps doesn't 506 00:24:26,600 --> 00:24:31,199 Speaker 4: necessarily guarantee you a nine zero republic no republican universe, 507 00:24:31,200 --> 00:24:33,840 Speaker 4: because remember to make this make the seventh of the 508 00:24:33,840 --> 00:24:36,359 Speaker 4: first district less democrat or more Republican. You have to 509 00:24:36,359 --> 00:24:37,680 Speaker 4: make the other ones less democratic. 510 00:24:37,800 --> 00:24:41,040 Speaker 5: Yeah, Rudy Yakam represents the South Bend area and you've 511 00:24:41,040 --> 00:24:44,359 Speaker 5: got and it's a Republican district now for many years 512 00:24:44,359 --> 00:24:47,359 Speaker 5: when I was growing up as a Democrat district John 513 00:24:47,359 --> 00:24:52,320 Speaker 5: Bradamus rose to number three in the House of Representatives leadership. 514 00:24:52,440 --> 00:24:56,439 Speaker 5: He's from South Bend and he lost uh because you know, 515 00:24:56,560 --> 00:25:01,200 Speaker 5: district change. But but UH as well as Frank Mrvan Junior, 516 00:25:01,720 --> 00:25:04,880 Speaker 5: the Member of Congress from the region. UH is a 517 00:25:05,160 --> 00:25:08,360 Speaker 5: junk yard dog when it comes to campaigning, and he's 518 00:25:08,400 --> 00:25:12,520 Speaker 5: beloved in that district by Republicans and Democrats. And and 519 00:25:12,640 --> 00:25:15,320 Speaker 5: Jennifer Ruth Green is a is a wounded kid that 520 00:25:15,480 --> 00:25:19,040 Speaker 5: running against him, and so so the idea and as 521 00:25:19,119 --> 00:25:22,199 Speaker 5: well as we've talked on these airways before that you know, 522 00:25:22,600 --> 00:25:24,920 Speaker 5: if you if you try to split up Marion County 523 00:25:25,000 --> 00:25:29,639 Speaker 5: and take Congressman Carson out, he's automatic, not automatically, but 524 00:25:29,880 --> 00:25:33,119 Speaker 5: he pretty good possibility. He's the next mayor of India. 525 00:25:33,240 --> 00:25:35,440 Speaker 3: Yeah. If you're Ryan Meuirs, you're like, what the heck 526 00:25:36,080 --> 00:25:37,400 Speaker 3: my time, what are you doing? 527 00:25:37,440 --> 00:25:40,359 Speaker 4: If you're Ryan Meers, if you're opposly Megan Lewis, some 528 00:25:40,359 --> 00:25:42,760 Speaker 4: of the names have been talking about thrown out there, 529 00:25:42,800 --> 00:25:47,200 Speaker 4: Andrew Huntley running from mayor. Uh if I now decide 530 00:25:47,200 --> 00:25:49,359 Speaker 4: to run from mayor, that changes the entire yea in 531 00:25:49,400 --> 00:25:51,199 Speaker 4: the entire equation. I think you can bet on it. 532 00:25:51,400 --> 00:25:53,520 Speaker 4: And and here's the other thing too, what what I 533 00:25:53,600 --> 00:25:55,880 Speaker 4: keep one of my Republican fans, like, gentlemen, I've seen 534 00:25:55,880 --> 00:25:59,199 Speaker 4: this play before. You'll overreach your bounds. You'll piss off 535 00:25:59,240 --> 00:26:01,400 Speaker 4: a whole bunch of gonna marrk a little black, little 536 00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:03,920 Speaker 4: black blackly lives at thirtieth in Central or sixteenth in 537 00:26:03,960 --> 00:26:06,199 Speaker 4: Tips because here's there, here's a mailing. They're trying to 538 00:26:06,200 --> 00:26:08,000 Speaker 4: take away your right to vote. This is Jim Crow 539 00:26:08,080 --> 00:26:10,199 Speaker 4: all over again. Right, all they got to hear and 540 00:26:10,240 --> 00:26:13,040 Speaker 4: then all hell will break loose and right wouldn't vote? 541 00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:17,160 Speaker 5: Yeah, And also, Robert you lose. You probably lose three 542 00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:21,000 Speaker 5: Republican seats in the Indiana Senate if this all goes 543 00:26:21,040 --> 00:26:24,040 Speaker 5: down because of the I don't want to say violence, 544 00:26:24,080 --> 00:26:28,160 Speaker 5: but the motivation, the the drive, the anger, and the 545 00:26:28,200 --> 00:26:33,000 Speaker 5: money that's gonna go to like, for instance, Senator Denk 546 00:26:33,800 --> 00:26:38,400 Speaker 5: who represents a portion of the region in the state Senate. Uh, 547 00:26:38,440 --> 00:26:40,400 Speaker 5: that's probably that's probably gone. 548 00:26:40,840 --> 00:26:41,119 Speaker 3: Uh. 549 00:26:41,240 --> 00:26:45,359 Speaker 5: The idea of Center Good who who you know? Center 550 00:26:45,400 --> 00:26:48,600 Speaker 5: Ford uh was the state center from that area and 551 00:26:48,720 --> 00:26:52,840 Speaker 5: great Good. Uh, that's kind of a marginal district. And 552 00:26:53,240 --> 00:26:55,840 Speaker 5: he's a friend of mine and and uh he's gonna 553 00:26:55,840 --> 00:26:57,919 Speaker 5: work really hard to save that district. 554 00:26:58,200 --> 00:26:58,360 Speaker 3: Uh. 555 00:26:58,400 --> 00:27:00,480 Speaker 5: And and and there are other districts that you could 556 00:27:00,560 --> 00:27:04,359 Speaker 5: lose because of the rousing of the base out there, 557 00:27:04,640 --> 00:27:09,840 Speaker 5: as well as the fact that that Congressman Ravan Junior 558 00:27:10,040 --> 00:27:12,119 Speaker 5: is going to have a lot of money thrown his 559 00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:15,480 Speaker 5: way uh to make to make sure that he's got 560 00:27:15,520 --> 00:27:17,400 Speaker 5: all the tools to win reelection. 561 00:27:17,520 --> 00:27:19,320 Speaker 4: And also throw in two and it's not just the 562 00:27:19,400 --> 00:27:22,600 Speaker 4: quote unquote urban environment, it's also your suburban environments. Like 563 00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:26,840 Speaker 4: I said, two sixty seven, Route nine, uh, Route thirty two, 564 00:27:27,280 --> 00:27:30,399 Speaker 4: uh and one thirty five. There's more purple than it 565 00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:31,240 Speaker 4: is than it used to be. 566 00:27:31,280 --> 00:27:31,440 Speaker 3: Read. 567 00:27:31,520 --> 00:27:33,440 Speaker 4: You're gonna piss off all those suburban women who don't 568 00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:36,160 Speaker 4: because people who's just fundamentally like Faridas, like, hey, these 569 00:27:36,160 --> 00:27:37,640 Speaker 4: are the rules I played about the rules. They don't 570 00:27:37,640 --> 00:27:40,000 Speaker 4: like the rules changing mid game. And that's gonna take 571 00:27:40,040 --> 00:27:41,880 Speaker 4: off a whole bunch of people. And like I said, 572 00:27:41,880 --> 00:27:44,400 Speaker 4: this is why I could see uh Secretary of Saint 573 00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:45,960 Speaker 4: Bow bye and the whole nine are. 574 00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:47,800 Speaker 2: Twenty twenty seconds left. I want to get you guys 575 00:27:47,840 --> 00:27:50,080 Speaker 2: opinion this. Are you still both now? You're both there? 576 00:27:50,119 --> 00:27:51,320 Speaker 3: No, we're no. Last time? 577 00:27:51,359 --> 00:27:51,439 Speaker 1: Right? 578 00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:54,040 Speaker 2: You think they will not vote to redistrict right, that's 579 00:27:54,040 --> 00:27:55,240 Speaker 2: where we both were last time. 580 00:27:56,240 --> 00:27:59,639 Speaker 3: Well, I I was, I was a yes. Do you 581 00:27:59,680 --> 00:28:01,480 Speaker 3: think noy? You think they will approve it? 582 00:28:03,400 --> 00:28:06,640 Speaker 5: I think yes. I now they're going to special session. 583 00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:12,040 Speaker 5: I always thought they're going to special session. And yes, 584 00:28:12,160 --> 00:28:14,280 Speaker 5: I think they will have new districts. 585 00:28:14,320 --> 00:28:16,600 Speaker 3: All right, you a vote yes won't get approved. All right? 586 00:28:16,680 --> 00:28:18,720 Speaker 3: Very good, bill gives Rossjimaret, thank you. 587 00:28:18,840 --> 00:28:22,040 Speaker 1: I'm doctor Jim Dalton, President and CEO of Daymar. 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