1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:04,440 Speaker 1: I am not letting this one go. Comparently not, I 2 00:00:04,480 --> 00:00:08,000 Speaker 1: am not letting this one go. In my nearly twenty 3 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:11,960 Speaker 1: five years in this fabulous industry of ours, I have 4 00:00:12,760 --> 00:00:18,520 Speaker 1: developed a highly sensitive what I call the BS meter, casey, 5 00:00:18,760 --> 00:00:20,479 Speaker 1: And on this one, the BS meter. 6 00:00:20,400 --> 00:00:24,640 Speaker 2: Is goings in the red like the things smoking. 7 00:00:25,120 --> 00:00:27,360 Speaker 1: And I think there's so much BS going on here. 8 00:00:27,600 --> 00:00:32,000 Speaker 1: And I am talking about this Jennifer Ruth Green woman 9 00:00:33,520 --> 00:00:37,480 Speaker 1: walking away, get air, walking away. 10 00:00:37,520 --> 00:00:38,920 Speaker 3: Being invited to walk away. 11 00:00:38,920 --> 00:00:41,000 Speaker 1: We ledab believe we the taxpayers, are led to believe 12 00:00:41,040 --> 00:00:45,400 Speaker 1: that this Jennifer Ruth Green woman just walked away from 13 00:00:45,479 --> 00:00:48,200 Speaker 1: some two hundred and seventy five thousand dollars a year 14 00:00:48,360 --> 00:00:50,720 Speaker 1: cush government position plus benefits. 15 00:00:50,760 --> 00:00:52,840 Speaker 2: By the way, and the. 16 00:00:52,720 --> 00:00:56,160 Speaker 1: Governor and her just hey, we'll see you when we 17 00:00:56,160 --> 00:00:59,000 Speaker 1: see you. Thanks for doing such a great job. Bye, 18 00:00:59,080 --> 00:01:04,759 Speaker 1: Audio Semio, Hey him off to my military service. Correct, Yeah, yeah, 19 00:01:04,840 --> 00:01:08,240 Speaker 1: so this is it stinks. Oh and then, by the way, conveniently, 20 00:01:08,720 --> 00:01:12,520 Speaker 1: the state police superintendent who when he became state police 21 00:01:12,520 --> 00:01:16,280 Speaker 1: superintendent all of a sudden, Braun's close political ally, Tom 22 00:01:16,319 --> 00:01:19,520 Speaker 1: klein Helter, the du Boys County sheriff, who is facing 23 00:01:19,520 --> 00:01:22,880 Speaker 1: an eighty page probable cause, AFFI David, those charges just 24 00:01:22,959 --> 00:01:25,520 Speaker 1: went away. Yeah, that guy Anthony Scott, he got promoted 25 00:01:25,560 --> 00:01:28,559 Speaker 1: to Jennifer Ruth Green's two hundred seventy five thousand dollars position. Yeah, 26 00:01:28,680 --> 00:01:30,680 Speaker 1: I don't believe that for a second. And I, boy, 27 00:01:30,720 --> 00:01:33,760 Speaker 1: did I hear from a bunch of people yesterday inside 28 00:01:33,840 --> 00:01:35,320 Speaker 1: the State House who aren't. 29 00:01:35,040 --> 00:01:35,759 Speaker 2: Buying it either. 30 00:01:36,200 --> 00:01:39,800 Speaker 3: So are you questioning whether it was a transformative time 31 00:01:39,840 --> 00:01:41,040 Speaker 3: in Indiana's history? 32 00:01:41,840 --> 00:01:43,880 Speaker 2: That's what the governor said about. So do you have 33 00:01:43,959 --> 00:01:44,680 Speaker 2: the statement? 34 00:01:44,800 --> 00:01:45,080 Speaker 4: I do? 35 00:01:45,160 --> 00:01:50,280 Speaker 1: Okay, So first of all, if okay, nobody just leaves 36 00:01:50,280 --> 00:01:52,240 Speaker 1: a two hundred and seventy five thousand dollars position. And 37 00:01:52,280 --> 00:01:58,120 Speaker 1: what's interesting is the spinner Rooney like, you gotta you 38 00:01:58,240 --> 00:02:01,880 Speaker 1: gotta really have your ten up to see through these people, 39 00:02:01,960 --> 00:02:03,880 Speaker 1: because if you let your guard down for a second, 40 00:02:04,120 --> 00:02:05,000 Speaker 1: they're gonna run. 41 00:02:05,600 --> 00:02:06,960 Speaker 2: They're gonna run all over you. 42 00:02:08,919 --> 00:02:14,680 Speaker 1: The uh these people try, they try to spin right, 43 00:02:14,720 --> 00:02:17,239 Speaker 1: they always it's it's subtle deflections. 44 00:02:17,280 --> 00:02:18,360 Speaker 2: It's subtle. 45 00:02:20,080 --> 00:02:22,800 Speaker 1: Without may you realize they're making you try to think this, 46 00:02:22,840 --> 00:02:25,079 Speaker 1: that they're making you try to think this. And so 47 00:02:25,520 --> 00:02:29,600 Speaker 1: first things first, she ain't leaving for military. Okay, that 48 00:02:29,639 --> 00:02:33,239 Speaker 1: little military pow wow. She's on that was already scheduled 49 00:02:33,480 --> 00:02:34,600 Speaker 1: Capitol chronicle laid out. 50 00:02:34,600 --> 00:02:35,480 Speaker 2: It's a one or two. 51 00:02:35,840 --> 00:02:37,560 Speaker 1: They're asking me to move the camera here for the 52 00:02:37,600 --> 00:02:41,440 Speaker 1: YouTube to get the sign in. Uh in the shot, Kevin, 53 00:02:41,520 --> 00:02:43,080 Speaker 1: you're not ever supposed to not let me have this 54 00:02:43,120 --> 00:02:46,440 Speaker 1: sign that says property tax is theft in the shot 55 00:02:47,360 --> 00:02:51,400 Speaker 1: these people. So this wasn't some military engagement. 56 00:02:51,440 --> 00:02:52,119 Speaker 2: She's not out. 57 00:02:52,200 --> 00:02:54,080 Speaker 1: I mean, she is serving her country, but she didn't 58 00:02:54,200 --> 00:02:59,840 Speaker 1: quit to serve her country. They also don't drop things 59 00:02:59,840 --> 00:03:02,720 Speaker 1: on on a Friday afternoon if they want you to 60 00:03:02,760 --> 00:03:05,880 Speaker 1: know about them. If she was leaving for some other 61 00:03:06,080 --> 00:03:10,359 Speaker 1: great service to humanity, if she was leaving to help 62 00:03:10,720 --> 00:03:14,040 Speaker 1: society in some shape former fashion, they'd be telling you 63 00:03:14,080 --> 00:03:17,480 Speaker 1: about that in the middle of the week on a Monday. 64 00:03:17,240 --> 00:03:19,720 Speaker 3: Absolutely because they'd want to take credit for it, right, And. 65 00:03:20,600 --> 00:03:23,080 Speaker 1: If she was leaving for And the third thing is 66 00:03:23,200 --> 00:03:24,840 Speaker 1: because they've tried to put this out in the ether 67 00:03:24,960 --> 00:03:27,320 Speaker 1: now because they don't want you paying attention now. Weird 68 00:03:27,400 --> 00:03:30,880 Speaker 1: this is that somebody Jennifer Ruth Green, by the way, 69 00:03:31,480 --> 00:03:35,840 Speaker 1: failed former congressional candidate who is was was the public 70 00:03:35,920 --> 00:03:41,600 Speaker 1: safety director for the state of Indiana They don't want 71 00:03:41,640 --> 00:03:43,960 Speaker 1: you paying attention asking the question we're asking, or saying 72 00:03:43,960 --> 00:03:47,400 Speaker 1: the thing we're saying, which is, nobody leaves a two 73 00:03:47,440 --> 00:03:50,160 Speaker 1: hundred and seventy five thousand dollars cush government position after 74 00:03:50,240 --> 00:03:54,960 Speaker 1: being there eight months. She ain't leaving to run for Congress. 75 00:03:55,000 --> 00:03:57,880 Speaker 1: Now she may end up running for Congress again, which 76 00:03:57,880 --> 00:04:01,480 Speaker 1: she's already lost at once. But they haven't even done 77 00:04:01,480 --> 00:04:04,840 Speaker 1: the redistricting. Sume it's going to go through, but they 78 00:04:04,880 --> 00:04:07,400 Speaker 1: haven't even done the redistricting. And then you figure out 79 00:04:07,440 --> 00:04:09,880 Speaker 1: what it looks like. Can I win the district? Oh, 80 00:04:09,960 --> 00:04:12,760 Speaker 1: and can I win the primary? All of those things 81 00:04:12,920 --> 00:04:15,960 Speaker 1: she would have months to make the choice on, and 82 00:04:16,040 --> 00:04:20,120 Speaker 1: she would stay in this position logically as a political person, 83 00:04:20,200 --> 00:04:24,800 Speaker 1: which she is, until she pulls the trigger, because, as 84 00:04:24,839 --> 00:04:29,880 Speaker 1: Diego's proven, you can campaign on taxpay, time and money. 85 00:04:30,040 --> 00:04:33,800 Speaker 1: So I don't believe for a damn second casey that 86 00:04:33,960 --> 00:04:35,760 Speaker 1: she left this position of. 87 00:04:35,640 --> 00:04:36,599 Speaker 2: Her own accord. 88 00:04:36,960 --> 00:04:39,640 Speaker 1: I don't believe she is out to serve humanity somewhere. 89 00:04:40,320 --> 00:04:44,240 Speaker 1: And multiple people in the state House yesterday, very connected 90 00:04:44,279 --> 00:04:48,120 Speaker 1: people called me saying, you are over the target, buddy 91 00:04:48,160 --> 00:04:50,800 Speaker 1: here on the skee you keep digging. 92 00:04:51,080 --> 00:04:54,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, So the Indiana Capitol Chronicle said that her military 93 00:04:54,440 --> 00:04:57,880 Speaker 3: service that she referenced not deployment, but routine National Guard 94 00:04:58,000 --> 00:05:00,880 Speaker 3: duty expected to last own a week or two. But 95 00:05:00,960 --> 00:05:04,280 Speaker 3: here's something that I want to make you think about 96 00:05:04,360 --> 00:05:07,960 Speaker 3: for just a second. Yes, when Governor Braun decides to 97 00:05:08,920 --> 00:05:13,400 Speaker 3: uninvite someone, seems he likes to let them write their 98 00:05:13,440 --> 00:05:15,000 Speaker 3: own resignation. 99 00:05:14,880 --> 00:05:18,160 Speaker 2: Point that it's very interesting to get their. 100 00:05:18,520 --> 00:05:20,000 Speaker 3: Own press release about this. 101 00:05:21,960 --> 00:05:24,920 Speaker 1: So this is what I was told by a by 102 00:05:25,000 --> 00:05:28,800 Speaker 1: multiple it's now been not confirmed, but said to me. 103 00:05:28,839 --> 00:05:34,119 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, it's been said to me by multiple sources 104 00:05:34,160 --> 00:05:35,120 Speaker 1: in and around. 105 00:05:34,920 --> 00:05:36,080 Speaker 2: Indiana State government. 106 00:05:37,240 --> 00:05:44,359 Speaker 1: Is that she was voluntold, she being Jennifer ruth Green, that. 107 00:05:45,720 --> 00:05:48,480 Speaker 2: Friday was going to be it for her. 108 00:05:49,279 --> 00:05:54,279 Speaker 1: The woman was brutally incompetent, was the phrase that one 109 00:05:54,320 --> 00:05:59,360 Speaker 1: of the sources used to me yesterday. Brutally incompetent. And 110 00:05:59,480 --> 00:06:07,400 Speaker 1: there are a allegedly there are allegedly some issues with 111 00:06:07,480 --> 00:06:11,520 Speaker 1: how the office was being handled that are allegedly under 112 00:06:11,560 --> 00:06:16,920 Speaker 1: investigation in some shape, form or fashion. Okay, And so 113 00:06:17,720 --> 00:06:21,400 Speaker 1: you can either believe that there is some potential smoke 114 00:06:21,800 --> 00:06:26,920 Speaker 1: here or you can believe that some person just for 115 00:06:27,000 --> 00:06:30,600 Speaker 1: no apparent reason quits a cushy, powerful, two hundred and 116 00:06:30,640 --> 00:06:33,760 Speaker 1: seventy five thousand dollars a year plus benefits position after 117 00:06:33,760 --> 00:06:34,679 Speaker 1: being there for eight months. 118 00:06:34,720 --> 00:06:35,599 Speaker 2: The choice is yours. 119 00:06:35,640 --> 00:06:39,280 Speaker 3: So we're saving face here because according to Governor Mike 120 00:06:39,320 --> 00:06:43,120 Speaker 3: Brown's release that he put out on Saturday, he said, 121 00:06:43,120 --> 00:06:45,359 Speaker 3: I want to thank Jennifer Ruth Green for her service 122 00:06:45,400 --> 00:06:48,599 Speaker 3: in my cabinet. She was a part of a transformative 123 00:06:48,640 --> 00:06:51,560 Speaker 3: time in Indiana's history, and we wish her the best 124 00:06:51,640 --> 00:06:53,440 Speaker 3: of luck on her next endeavor. 125 00:06:53,560 --> 00:06:56,719 Speaker 2: What she do? No, no, seriously, what'd she do? 126 00:06:56,760 --> 00:06:57,919 Speaker 3: What did transform you know? 127 00:06:57,960 --> 00:07:00,960 Speaker 2: What does she do? What did she do for eight months? 128 00:07:01,560 --> 00:07:02,560 Speaker 2: What did she do? 129 00:07:02,680 --> 00:07:04,640 Speaker 1: She being Jennifer Ruth Green that you would say, oh, 130 00:07:04,680 --> 00:07:07,520 Speaker 1: thank god she was here. The state is so much better. 131 00:07:07,600 --> 00:07:10,240 Speaker 1: You know who's better off? She is because she got 132 00:07:10,240 --> 00:07:12,400 Speaker 1: eight months worth of two hundred and seventy five K 133 00:07:13,400 --> 00:07:17,240 Speaker 1: and she did what for it. She is an example 134 00:07:17,800 --> 00:07:21,400 Speaker 1: of someone who got a position because of the political 135 00:07:21,640 --> 00:07:22,400 Speaker 1: clout that. 136 00:07:22,320 --> 00:07:26,800 Speaker 2: She carries or care read. That's why she was there. 137 00:07:27,240 --> 00:07:30,400 Speaker 1: There's nothing you can point to that you say, oh 138 00:07:30,440 --> 00:07:34,960 Speaker 1: my gosh, what a transformative person. And this is the 139 00:07:35,000 --> 00:07:38,960 Speaker 1: same state that claims they didn't have any money to 140 00:07:39,080 --> 00:07:42,320 Speaker 1: fund the budget without raising taxes by a billion dollars, 141 00:07:44,200 --> 00:07:46,520 Speaker 1: or any money to fund the roads without continue to 142 00:07:46,560 --> 00:07:50,040 Speaker 1: raise taxes on you. Yet they had two hundred and 143 00:07:50,040 --> 00:07:54,280 Speaker 1: seventy five large laying around to help this person, who, 144 00:07:54,280 --> 00:07:58,040 Speaker 1: according to multiple sources, as a Friday, was volunteld You done. 145 00:07:58,800 --> 00:08:00,880 Speaker 3: He went on to say that he would announce additional 146 00:08:00,880 --> 00:08:04,920 Speaker 3: personnel updates and efficiencies in the Office of Public Safety 147 00:08:04,960 --> 00:08:05,920 Speaker 3: at the beginning of the week. 148 00:08:06,280 --> 00:08:12,000 Speaker 2: It's Tuesday, these people. So anyway, she's on the list. 149 00:08:12,560 --> 00:08:15,280 Speaker 1: You know how I get, Casey, You want to tell 150 00:08:15,320 --> 00:08:17,800 Speaker 1: people how I get when I decide somebody's on the list. 151 00:08:18,080 --> 00:08:19,800 Speaker 2: C Diego Morales. 152 00:08:20,200 --> 00:08:23,480 Speaker 1: So Jennifer Ruth Green, you're on the list. People are 153 00:08:23,480 --> 00:08:26,480 Speaker 1: talking in the state House. Oh boy, and we ain't 154 00:08:26,480 --> 00:08:29,560 Speaker 1: gonna stop on this one, because she is, to me 155 00:08:30,520 --> 00:08:35,920 Speaker 1: example a of why this state is in the condition 156 00:08:36,000 --> 00:08:39,839 Speaker 1: it's in why we're run the way that we are, 157 00:08:40,520 --> 00:08:45,400 Speaker 1: in which someone it appears, gets a position not because 158 00:08:45,400 --> 00:08:46,559 Speaker 1: of their ability. 159 00:08:46,160 --> 00:08:49,160 Speaker 2: To do the job, political favors, not because of. 160 00:08:49,120 --> 00:08:52,920 Speaker 1: Their competency, but you're right, because of political favors. And 161 00:08:52,960 --> 00:08:56,400 Speaker 1: then eight months later, on a Friday, Hey, I'll see 162 00:08:56,400 --> 00:08:59,000 Speaker 1: you later. Here's my thumbs up photo in my in 163 00:08:59,000 --> 00:09:02,160 Speaker 1: my military guard to make you think, hey, nothing to 164 00:09:02,200 --> 00:09:04,160 Speaker 1: see here, and oh, I'm doing this because you know 165 00:09:04,240 --> 00:09:05,839 Speaker 1: she didn't say this, but of course the rumor mill 166 00:09:05,840 --> 00:09:07,960 Speaker 1: immediate comes out. Oh, maybe she's doing a run for 167 00:09:08,040 --> 00:09:13,360 Speaker 1: commerce in a nonexistent Jerrymander district. Right, maybe it will 168 00:09:13,400 --> 00:09:17,720 Speaker 1: be in a few weeks, who knows. Utterly ridiculous. So 169 00:09:18,120 --> 00:09:20,840 Speaker 1: you guys can come clean, cut the crap and tell 170 00:09:20,920 --> 00:09:23,520 Speaker 1: us why she actually left or this is fun for me. 171 00:09:24,280 --> 00:09:26,080 Speaker 1: I'll just keep digging and getting called by people in 172 00:09:26,080 --> 00:09:27,800 Speaker 1: the state House and then maybe I'll get lucky and 173 00:09:27,840 --> 00:09:28,680 Speaker 1: I break the story. 174 00:09:29,160 --> 00:09:32,080 Speaker 3: It is Kenney Casey. It's ninety three WIBC. 175 00:09:35,000 --> 00:09:35,360 Speaker 4: Okay. 176 00:09:35,480 --> 00:09:43,480 Speaker 1: So the Internet was hosting this old video of Joe 177 00:09:43,559 --> 00:09:47,600 Speaker 1: Hawk said the mayor of Indianapolis yesterday, and I was 178 00:09:47,720 --> 00:09:55,960 Speaker 1: blown away about how much one physically he has changed. 179 00:09:56,480 --> 00:09:59,000 Speaker 2: But to the things that he was saying. 180 00:09:59,559 --> 00:10:01,920 Speaker 1: And you want to to see how far left the 181 00:10:01,960 --> 00:10:05,920 Speaker 1: Democrat Party has gone. This guy would be crucified today 182 00:10:06,640 --> 00:10:08,920 Speaker 1: if he said the things that he said in this clip. 183 00:10:09,040 --> 00:10:12,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, this is going back to nineteen ninety two. He's 184 00:10:12,120 --> 00:10:15,079 Speaker 3: running for US Senate correct Indiana Senate. 185 00:10:16,400 --> 00:10:23,320 Speaker 1: And listen to how Joe hog Set describes dealing with 186 00:10:23,440 --> 00:10:26,240 Speaker 1: people on the welfare roles. 187 00:10:26,920 --> 00:10:30,520 Speaker 5: Anyone who is able bodied ought to be working if 188 00:10:30,559 --> 00:10:35,559 Speaker 5: they are continuing to receive benefits. Any families who are 189 00:10:35,600 --> 00:10:39,880 Speaker 5: not getting job training or education so as to empower themselves, 190 00:10:40,320 --> 00:10:42,400 Speaker 5: they should be required to do that to continue to 191 00:10:42,440 --> 00:10:47,040 Speaker 5: receive benefits. Mothers should not continue to have children in poverty. 192 00:10:47,280 --> 00:10:49,720 Speaker 5: And I believe that I've taken a very controversial and 193 00:10:49,760 --> 00:10:52,800 Speaker 5: tough stand against that, in other words, inject into the 194 00:10:52,880 --> 00:10:57,199 Speaker 5: process the element of personal responsibility. Government has an obligation 195 00:10:57,320 --> 00:11:00,480 Speaker 5: to help its people, but we have no obligation to 196 00:11:00,559 --> 00:11:03,200 Speaker 5: help people who are not willing to help themselves. 197 00:11:03,440 --> 00:11:05,280 Speaker 2: And with that kind of balance, I. 198 00:11:05,280 --> 00:11:07,600 Speaker 5: Believe that not only that kind of empowerment for the 199 00:11:07,600 --> 00:11:10,400 Speaker 5: people can be reached, but we can also see our 200 00:11:10,559 --> 00:11:14,079 Speaker 5: entitlement deficit lowered and we can bring our federal budget 201 00:11:14,080 --> 00:11:14,760 Speaker 5: into balance. 202 00:11:15,040 --> 00:11:17,080 Speaker 1: Now, that was a much nicer way of saying what 203 00:11:17,160 --> 00:11:20,720 Speaker 1: I say on this program, which is, hey, fatty, put 204 00:11:20,760 --> 00:11:23,000 Speaker 1: down the twinkie and if you can walk and you 205 00:11:23,000 --> 00:11:26,440 Speaker 1: can lift, go to work. That's exactly one of the 206 00:11:26,440 --> 00:11:29,120 Speaker 1: things they tried to do in this big bullcrap bill 207 00:11:29,840 --> 00:11:34,480 Speaker 1: was to force able bodied people to get off. 208 00:11:33,679 --> 00:11:36,840 Speaker 2: The taxpayer dime and go to work. 209 00:11:37,160 --> 00:11:41,600 Speaker 1: And the liberals and people like Joe Howgshead lost their 210 00:11:41,720 --> 00:11:46,680 Speaker 1: minds over this, and there he is saying this, this 211 00:11:46,880 --> 00:11:50,520 Speaker 1: exact thing, nicer way of saying the exact thing I 212 00:11:50,559 --> 00:11:52,720 Speaker 1: say here every single day that if you are an 213 00:11:52,760 --> 00:11:56,320 Speaker 1: able bodied person who can walk, who can lift, who 214 00:11:56,320 --> 00:11:59,800 Speaker 1: can function the most basic of things, right, you should 215 00:11:59,840 --> 00:12:02,280 Speaker 1: be going to work and not being dependent on humanity 216 00:12:02,280 --> 00:12:03,080 Speaker 1: to pay your freight. 217 00:12:03,400 --> 00:12:07,040 Speaker 3: Imagine Joe Hawk said has been in office of some 218 00:12:07,080 --> 00:12:08,880 Speaker 3: sort since nineteen ninety two. 219 00:12:09,640 --> 00:12:12,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, he's a career government lifer. But the other thing 220 00:12:12,080 --> 00:12:14,280 Speaker 1: that stood out to me, and look, I get the 221 00:12:14,280 --> 00:12:16,800 Speaker 1: people age, right, Most people don't look the same as 222 00:12:16,800 --> 00:12:19,360 Speaker 1: they did thirty three years ago. Now me, on the 223 00:12:19,400 --> 00:12:21,800 Speaker 1: other hand, I look at pictures from twenty years ago, 224 00:12:21,880 --> 00:12:24,600 Speaker 1: timeless like yeah, yeahs Tayble look at me and go, 225 00:12:24,800 --> 00:12:26,679 Speaker 1: how did you get this radio career at twenty five 226 00:12:26,760 --> 00:12:27,240 Speaker 1: years old? 227 00:12:29,360 --> 00:12:31,000 Speaker 2: Most people do age? 228 00:12:31,040 --> 00:12:33,559 Speaker 1: But my goodness, Casey, did he look like a different 229 00:12:33,600 --> 00:12:34,760 Speaker 1: human totally different? 230 00:12:34,920 --> 00:12:39,280 Speaker 3: Yeah? Hey, blink though throughout this entire clip he. 231 00:12:39,400 --> 00:12:42,960 Speaker 1: Did some blink. He was very He's very okay, blink 232 00:12:43,000 --> 00:12:47,720 Speaker 1: if you're okay. So let's compare that what you just heard, sensible, 233 00:12:48,320 --> 00:12:49,760 Speaker 1: yes together. 234 00:12:50,400 --> 00:12:55,360 Speaker 2: Not in any way on any sauce of any. 235 00:12:55,200 --> 00:13:01,480 Speaker 1: Sort, coherent, straightforward that to. 236 00:13:02,960 --> 00:13:04,040 Speaker 2: What we heard last year. 237 00:13:04,960 --> 00:13:07,720 Speaker 6: I watch you all, look, I ain't on the ballot. 238 00:13:11,120 --> 00:13:15,760 Speaker 6: I run it for nothing. I'm running from things, but 239 00:13:18,200 --> 00:13:20,679 Speaker 6: I run it for nothing. 240 00:13:21,200 --> 00:13:26,600 Speaker 1: That reasonable, coherent, together, common sense of clip thirty three 241 00:13:26,679 --> 00:13:28,400 Speaker 1: years ago. And then you compared it to what he 242 00:13:28,480 --> 00:13:31,240 Speaker 1: became at the end of his political career. 243 00:13:31,280 --> 00:13:35,240 Speaker 3: I mean it is sad, casey, Yeah, that's that's what 244 00:13:35,640 --> 00:13:37,320 Speaker 3: being in office that long will do to you. 245 00:13:37,600 --> 00:13:39,800 Speaker 1: Well, let's talk about that for a second, because that 246 00:13:39,960 --> 00:13:43,240 Speaker 1: look chowhogs. It is a pathetic, sad human and he's 247 00:13:43,280 --> 00:13:45,760 Speaker 1: a personal dumpster fire, and everybody knows all about it. 248 00:13:45,800 --> 00:13:49,319 Speaker 1: But one of the things you see a lot in 249 00:13:49,360 --> 00:13:53,199 Speaker 1: this I call it a business, right, because politics basically 250 00:13:53,280 --> 00:13:58,000 Speaker 1: is a business. Is you have to be on guard 251 00:13:58,960 --> 00:14:02,040 Speaker 1: twenty four hours a day, seven days a week, or 252 00:14:02,080 --> 00:14:02,480 Speaker 1: you will. 253 00:14:02,320 --> 00:14:03,960 Speaker 2: Get swallowed up by this thing. 254 00:14:05,080 --> 00:14:08,080 Speaker 1: And it will swallow you up, not just professionally, but 255 00:14:08,120 --> 00:14:11,360 Speaker 1: it will swallow you up personally. And I think for 256 00:14:11,400 --> 00:14:14,240 Speaker 1: a lot of people, politics is a way to fill 257 00:14:14,360 --> 00:14:18,120 Speaker 1: some sort of void in their life. I found this 258 00:14:18,200 --> 00:14:19,720 Speaker 1: when you know, when I was in it, I looked 259 00:14:19,720 --> 00:14:22,600 Speaker 1: around and I saw people who needed these things, needed 260 00:14:22,640 --> 00:14:28,280 Speaker 1: these positions, and it became the most important thing in 261 00:14:28,400 --> 00:14:34,480 Speaker 1: their life. It became everything to them. And that takes 262 00:14:34,560 --> 00:14:40,160 Speaker 1: a toll on you physically and emotionally when some position 263 00:14:41,360 --> 00:14:44,600 Speaker 1: becomes your your bright, your crown. 264 00:14:44,360 --> 00:14:46,960 Speaker 2: Jewel, Yeah, the most important thing in your life, because 265 00:14:47,000 --> 00:14:48,000 Speaker 2: you're not yourself anymore. 266 00:14:48,040 --> 00:14:53,680 Speaker 1: You become whatever character or charriacture of yourself that you 267 00:14:53,760 --> 00:14:56,240 Speaker 1: have to be to keep making people vote for you, 268 00:14:56,560 --> 00:14:58,080 Speaker 1: or get the most amount of people vote for you, 269 00:14:58,160 --> 00:15:02,000 Speaker 1: or the powerful people to support you, or whatever. I've 270 00:15:02,040 --> 00:15:05,560 Speaker 1: told this story before, but it is the best best 271 00:15:05,560 --> 00:15:08,800 Speaker 1: way I can articulate why I got out of it. 272 00:15:09,160 --> 00:15:09,280 Speaker 3: Now. 273 00:15:09,320 --> 00:15:11,040 Speaker 1: I was going to run for state Senate. We had 274 00:15:11,320 --> 00:15:13,440 Speaker 1: hundreds of people that were already ready to support us. 275 00:15:13,480 --> 00:15:14,720 Speaker 1: It was going to be a slam dug. It's going 276 00:15:14,800 --> 00:15:16,960 Speaker 1: to be great. And I met with a very high 277 00:15:17,000 --> 00:15:21,520 Speaker 1: profile lobbyist, very powerful person, and met with them for 278 00:15:21,560 --> 00:15:25,120 Speaker 1: probably two hours, and it was a great meeting. And 279 00:15:25,160 --> 00:15:28,040 Speaker 1: this person said, we love what you've done in Brownsburg, 280 00:15:28,200 --> 00:15:30,000 Speaker 1: and we think you would bring all these great things 281 00:15:30,000 --> 00:15:32,320 Speaker 1: to the state House and we can't wait to support you, 282 00:15:32,360 --> 00:15:33,280 Speaker 1: and blah blah, and I'm. 283 00:15:33,160 --> 00:15:34,880 Speaker 2: Thinking, all right, hey, this is this is great. 284 00:15:35,400 --> 00:15:39,240 Speaker 1: And then they asked me about a very specific issue, 285 00:15:39,520 --> 00:15:43,000 Speaker 1: and they said, well, what is your view on this issue? 286 00:15:43,160 --> 00:15:44,280 Speaker 2: And I said, well, I don't. 287 00:15:44,320 --> 00:15:47,320 Speaker 1: I haven't really formed one yet because it hasn't been 288 00:15:47,360 --> 00:15:49,600 Speaker 1: a hot button topic that's come up. I'll study it 289 00:15:49,680 --> 00:15:52,560 Speaker 1: and I'll form an opinion, Like why does it matter? 290 00:15:53,000 --> 00:15:54,600 Speaker 1: And I said, well that, you know, that's one of 291 00:15:54,640 --> 00:15:57,720 Speaker 1: the things i'm a lobbyist for. Is this particular thing. 292 00:15:57,760 --> 00:15:59,600 Speaker 1: I said, you know, I know that. And I said, 293 00:15:59,600 --> 00:16:02,120 Speaker 1: but what as that matter? They said, well, I can't 294 00:16:02,160 --> 00:16:06,520 Speaker 1: support you if your opinion is against it's going to 295 00:16:06,560 --> 00:16:08,440 Speaker 1: take money out of my pocket. I said, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, 296 00:16:08,440 --> 00:16:10,160 Speaker 1: wait a second. You've said all these other things that 297 00:16:10,200 --> 00:16:13,160 Speaker 1: I do well that are going to benefit the state, 298 00:16:13,200 --> 00:16:15,840 Speaker 1: which you're a part of, make it easier for you 299 00:16:15,920 --> 00:16:18,400 Speaker 1: to make money or everybody to make money if we 300 00:16:18,440 --> 00:16:20,360 Speaker 1: do these things in the fight and everything else. 301 00:16:20,560 --> 00:16:21,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, no, that's true. 302 00:16:22,080 --> 00:16:25,200 Speaker 1: But you're saying if this one thing, if I don't 303 00:16:25,200 --> 00:16:26,440 Speaker 1: agree with you on it, which I don't know. I 304 00:16:26,480 --> 00:16:27,920 Speaker 1: don't have an opinion on it yet, but if my 305 00:16:28,080 --> 00:16:31,960 Speaker 1: opinion is not what you want, you will not only 306 00:16:32,000 --> 00:16:34,720 Speaker 1: not support me, you will put the freight and power 307 00:16:35,840 --> 00:16:39,880 Speaker 1: of all your fellow lobby people around the other person 308 00:16:39,960 --> 00:16:42,560 Speaker 1: because this one issue. 309 00:16:42,680 --> 00:16:43,480 Speaker 2: Yes, that's correct. 310 00:16:44,160 --> 00:16:45,440 Speaker 1: And I walked out of there and I was like, 311 00:16:45,480 --> 00:16:48,960 Speaker 1: I'm done with this because you will never be able 312 00:16:49,000 --> 00:16:51,000 Speaker 1: to get ahead, even if you find a way to win, 313 00:16:51,800 --> 00:16:55,200 Speaker 1: because most people, the overwhelming majority of the people, don't 314 00:16:55,240 --> 00:16:58,680 Speaker 1: have the intestinal fortitude to stand up to this and 315 00:16:58,760 --> 00:17:00,600 Speaker 1: fight back. And one person I think going to be 316 00:17:00,600 --> 00:17:02,880 Speaker 1: able to make any difference if that's how this game 317 00:17:02,960 --> 00:17:04,720 Speaker 1: is played. And I think that's what you see with 318 00:17:04,800 --> 00:17:07,600 Speaker 1: these people, like a Joe Hawk said, they completely lose 319 00:17:07,640 --> 00:17:11,240 Speaker 1: their humanity in a sense because the position becomes the 320 00:17:11,280 --> 00:17:14,800 Speaker 1: most important thing, and they it's it is an emotional 321 00:17:14,800 --> 00:17:18,119 Speaker 1: and physical train wreck on yourself to constantly be living 322 00:17:18,119 --> 00:17:19,360 Speaker 1: in that in that environment. 323 00:17:19,480 --> 00:17:24,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, because if you're it gets swallowed up or swallow 324 00:17:24,160 --> 00:17:24,639 Speaker 3: up others. 325 00:17:25,440 --> 00:17:28,160 Speaker 1: And thus I came here and look at how happy 326 00:17:28,280 --> 00:17:30,919 Speaker 1: humanity is, and look at how better humanity is. You 327 00:17:30,920 --> 00:17:32,879 Speaker 1: know who's also better for getting to work with me? 328 00:17:33,040 --> 00:17:33,320 Speaker 4: Yeah? 329 00:17:33,400 --> 00:17:35,600 Speaker 1: Jarrett Lewis in the news, which we'll get you in 330 00:17:35,640 --> 00:17:36,879 Speaker 1: a second when we come back. 331 00:17:36,800 --> 00:17:40,280 Speaker 2: Cansy, We've got Mitchell. Mitchell Osmon is going to be 332 00:17:40,320 --> 00:17:40,720 Speaker 2: with us. 333 00:17:41,080 --> 00:17:43,399 Speaker 1: He is going to report a very serious case of 334 00:17:43,480 --> 00:17:48,040 Speaker 1: too high profile Indiana politicians who are missing in action. 335 00:17:48,720 --> 00:17:52,000 Speaker 1: Alert the milk cartons, alert the post office. We'll tell 336 00:17:52,000 --> 00:17:53,320 Speaker 1: you about it next after Jarret Lewis. 337 00:17:53,359 --> 00:17:55,960 Speaker 3: It's kindly Casey on ninety three WIBC. 338 00:18:06,160 --> 00:18:09,120 Speaker 2: Casey, we have some big news. We do well. 339 00:18:09,160 --> 00:18:10,760 Speaker 1: I think we're going to need the eyes and ears 340 00:18:10,760 --> 00:18:15,679 Speaker 1: of our audience because the governor and lieutenant governor are missing. 341 00:18:16,480 --> 00:18:19,280 Speaker 2: Seriously, what do you mean missing, Well, they're missing in action. 342 00:18:19,480 --> 00:18:22,760 Speaker 3: Oh okay, have they not been seen? Or well here's 343 00:18:22,800 --> 00:18:24,760 Speaker 3: the problem. 344 00:18:25,040 --> 00:18:26,160 Speaker 2: There's a problem. 345 00:18:26,600 --> 00:18:29,960 Speaker 1: So remember when I had that famed final meeting, it 346 00:18:30,040 --> 00:18:33,600 Speaker 1: was like the last supper with Governor Braun, and he 347 00:18:33,640 --> 00:18:36,760 Speaker 1: famously told me I told him when they he says, 348 00:18:36,760 --> 00:18:39,359 Speaker 1: gonna sign up on this horrible property tax bill. And 349 00:18:39,400 --> 00:18:42,199 Speaker 1: I said, you are going to open a floodgate of 350 00:18:42,359 --> 00:18:45,800 Speaker 1: schools to go to the referendum turnstyle. It's going to 351 00:18:45,840 --> 00:18:48,199 Speaker 1: be like like a sprint, right, And I said, a 352 00:18:48,200 --> 00:18:50,159 Speaker 1: bunch of them probably aren't even gonna wait for your 353 00:18:50,200 --> 00:18:52,000 Speaker 1: stupid little new law to take effect. 354 00:18:52,040 --> 00:18:53,280 Speaker 2: They're going to do it this fall. 355 00:18:53,600 --> 00:18:56,480 Speaker 1: And he said, oh, I'll because I asked me, said, 356 00:18:56,480 --> 00:18:57,760 Speaker 1: well you go to go knock on doors to help 357 00:18:57,800 --> 00:18:58,200 Speaker 1: these people? 358 00:18:58,320 --> 00:18:59,960 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, absolutely? 359 00:19:00,000 --> 00:19:00,360 Speaker 4: Oh year. 360 00:19:00,720 --> 00:19:04,480 Speaker 1: I said, everybody in this room, are they taken taken notes? 361 00:19:04,520 --> 00:19:06,400 Speaker 1: Because I want to remember that because I don't think 362 00:19:06,400 --> 00:19:09,080 Speaker 1: you'll do that, And he told me, oh no, no, no. 363 00:19:09,280 --> 00:19:11,400 Speaker 3: He battered you on the head and then tapped your 364 00:19:11,400 --> 00:19:12,800 Speaker 3: bum and out the door you went. 365 00:19:12,960 --> 00:19:16,640 Speaker 1: Well, it turns out I was absolutely right that there 366 00:19:16,640 --> 00:19:17,400 Speaker 1: are here. 367 00:19:17,200 --> 00:19:18,840 Speaker 2: Doing the head padding motion. 368 00:19:18,960 --> 00:19:19,160 Speaker 4: There. 369 00:19:19,600 --> 00:19:22,160 Speaker 1: Turns out I was proving it right that there are 370 00:19:22,240 --> 00:19:25,320 Speaker 1: multiple school districts who said, screw your stupid little law. 371 00:19:25,359 --> 00:19:28,000 Speaker 1: We're going to sprint to get the referendum done this 372 00:19:28,200 --> 00:19:31,480 Speaker 1: fall because we hate our taxpayers, We hate the people. 373 00:19:31,200 --> 00:19:32,240 Speaker 2: That live in our community. 374 00:19:32,240 --> 00:19:35,200 Speaker 1: We view them as nothing more than just slave labor 375 00:19:35,280 --> 00:19:36,400 Speaker 1: to pay for whatever we want. 376 00:19:36,520 --> 00:19:37,480 Speaker 2: Wenji and Piggybank. 377 00:19:37,600 --> 00:19:40,520 Speaker 1: And one of those school districts is directly to the 378 00:19:40,560 --> 00:19:45,359 Speaker 1: south of me. Yes, they're they're encroaching on my border. Casey, Yeah, 379 00:19:45,080 --> 00:19:46,639 Speaker 1: the Avon school system. 380 00:19:46,720 --> 00:19:48,080 Speaker 2: That's where I do my grocery shop. 381 00:19:48,160 --> 00:19:52,000 Speaker 1: Well, you should by boycott, you should boycott all commerce 382 00:19:52,359 --> 00:19:55,200 Speaker 1: in Avon because those are some rotten, nasty people running 383 00:19:55,200 --> 00:19:59,240 Speaker 1: that school system anyway. So since our governor said, hey, 384 00:19:59,240 --> 00:20:03,040 Speaker 1: I'll help you, some fine folks out of Avon said, doo. 385 00:20:02,880 --> 00:20:04,040 Speaker 2: Will take you up on the offer. 386 00:20:04,160 --> 00:20:04,280 Speaker 4: Right. 387 00:20:04,840 --> 00:20:07,760 Speaker 2: They've called repeatedly, they've gotten no response. 388 00:20:07,840 --> 00:20:11,720 Speaker 1: Oh, here to tell us the sad tale of the 389 00:20:11,720 --> 00:20:15,159 Speaker 1: milk cart missing governor, our old friend who's actually had 390 00:20:15,160 --> 00:20:17,320 Speaker 1: our property tax rally at the state house not that 391 00:20:17,400 --> 00:20:17,720 Speaker 1: long ago. 392 00:20:17,760 --> 00:20:21,040 Speaker 2: You remember that, right, Mitchell Osmond is his name? Mitchell? Hello? 393 00:20:22,160 --> 00:20:25,040 Speaker 1: Hello, So you have tried desperately to get a hold 394 00:20:25,160 --> 00:20:27,760 Speaker 1: of the governor and thus far not heard back. 395 00:20:27,800 --> 00:20:28,399 Speaker 2: Is that correct? 396 00:20:29,280 --> 00:20:29,639 Speaker 3: Correct? 397 00:20:29,640 --> 00:20:31,320 Speaker 4: The governor and lieutenant governor. 398 00:20:31,520 --> 00:20:33,600 Speaker 1: Oh, okay, we'll get to the We'll get one at 399 00:20:33,640 --> 00:20:35,760 Speaker 1: a time because we'll talk about him in a second. 400 00:20:36,320 --> 00:20:40,400 Speaker 2: Like, what is your attempted connection with the governor's office? Ben? 401 00:20:40,720 --> 00:20:43,359 Speaker 1: And and have they just acted like you don't exist? 402 00:20:43,359 --> 00:20:45,200 Speaker 1: Have they not answered your phone calls? Tell us what's 403 00:20:45,240 --> 00:20:45,600 Speaker 1: going on? 404 00:20:47,080 --> 00:20:52,000 Speaker 4: Two phone calls, voicemail, I left all my contact information, 405 00:20:52,119 --> 00:20:55,680 Speaker 4: haven't heard anything back. Went on their website. Send him 406 00:20:55,720 --> 00:21:00,359 Speaker 4: an email with all of my contact information plus what 407 00:21:00,480 --> 00:21:04,159 Speaker 4: I wanted to talk about. And have heard tickets ever since. 408 00:21:04,560 --> 00:21:06,960 Speaker 2: What have you wanted to talk about? 409 00:21:08,160 --> 00:21:11,520 Speaker 4: The school referendum that Avon's trying to push through. That 410 00:21:11,960 --> 00:21:17,040 Speaker 4: the superintendent put out a video, But when he put 411 00:21:17,040 --> 00:21:20,080 Speaker 4: the video out, he put the video out on Parents Square, 412 00:21:20,320 --> 00:21:23,399 Speaker 4: which is an app that parents have on their phones 413 00:21:23,440 --> 00:21:27,800 Speaker 4: for their children while they're in school. So not everybody 414 00:21:27,840 --> 00:21:30,360 Speaker 4: in Avon received that video, that's right. 415 00:21:30,400 --> 00:21:31,320 Speaker 2: Remember we got that. 416 00:21:31,440 --> 00:21:33,680 Speaker 1: Somebody sent us the back door link to that, and 417 00:21:33,720 --> 00:21:36,480 Speaker 1: we played part of that on the air, and we said, 418 00:21:36,480 --> 00:21:38,520 Speaker 1: we're playing this for you because there are a bunch 419 00:21:38,520 --> 00:21:41,040 Speaker 1: of sneaky little bastards out there in Avon who don't 420 00:21:41,080 --> 00:21:43,280 Speaker 1: have the guts to face the taxpayers man a man, 421 00:21:43,560 --> 00:21:44,400 Speaker 1: So we'll let you know. 422 00:21:44,359 --> 00:21:46,159 Speaker 2: This is going on since they don't want you. Do 423 00:21:46,160 --> 00:21:46,639 Speaker 2: you remember that? 424 00:21:46,880 --> 00:21:49,520 Speaker 3: I do remember that. It's interesting. So the superintendent sent 425 00:21:49,640 --> 00:21:52,359 Speaker 3: that out to parents of students, But what about the 426 00:21:52,359 --> 00:21:55,080 Speaker 3: people who live in Avon who don't have children in 427 00:21:55,080 --> 00:21:56,320 Speaker 3: the school district anymore? 428 00:21:57,200 --> 00:21:59,480 Speaker 4: Well, that's what I was kind of wondering. I think 429 00:21:59,520 --> 00:22:01,600 Speaker 4: there should be and a letter sent out to everybody 430 00:22:01,600 --> 00:22:05,159 Speaker 4: that lives in the district, not just I had kids 431 00:22:05,160 --> 00:22:08,359 Speaker 4: in Avon schools and I never had parents square on 432 00:22:08,440 --> 00:22:13,280 Speaker 4: my phone. So even parents that have kids in Avon, 433 00:22:13,960 --> 00:22:16,480 Speaker 4: some of them probably didn't even receive that video because 434 00:22:16,520 --> 00:22:17,520 Speaker 4: they don't have the app. 435 00:22:17,920 --> 00:22:20,119 Speaker 2: Mitchell Osmond is our guest. He's an Avon resident. 436 00:22:20,200 --> 00:22:22,320 Speaker 1: He's desperately trying to get in touch with the governor 437 00:22:22,359 --> 00:22:24,359 Speaker 1: so that the governor can fulfill the promise that he 438 00:22:24,440 --> 00:22:27,040 Speaker 1: made to me in front of a room full of 439 00:22:27,080 --> 00:22:31,200 Speaker 1: people that he would go knock on doors any school 440 00:22:31,280 --> 00:22:34,640 Speaker 1: system that has a referendum to defy his property tax law. 441 00:22:34,960 --> 00:22:37,439 Speaker 1: And so, Mitchell, it's really bad customer service. Even if 442 00:22:37,480 --> 00:22:39,600 Speaker 1: they're going to tell you to smooch both their butt cheeks, 443 00:22:39,640 --> 00:22:42,399 Speaker 1: shouldn't they at least return the phone call or the 444 00:22:42,600 --> 00:22:45,879 Speaker 1: online correspondence, I would think. 445 00:22:45,920 --> 00:22:49,040 Speaker 2: So, Mitchell, it seems like you've been ghosted. 446 00:22:50,880 --> 00:22:54,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, And since I've been ghosted, I've done my own 447 00:22:54,680 --> 00:22:57,600 Speaker 4: research and all the numbers that I have came up with, 448 00:22:58,440 --> 00:23:01,720 Speaker 4: it's all public information and some of it's from the 449 00:23:01,760 --> 00:23:05,639 Speaker 4: Census Bureau, some of it straight from the Avon community's website, 450 00:23:05,960 --> 00:23:09,960 Speaker 4: school's website. I've got numbers here and they are just 451 00:23:11,280 --> 00:23:14,560 Speaker 4: they're staggering when you start figuring out the numbers. 452 00:23:14,640 --> 00:23:17,399 Speaker 1: How like how much, like would your taxes go like 453 00:23:17,440 --> 00:23:19,560 Speaker 1: how much are the taxes going to go up? Because 454 00:23:19,560 --> 00:23:20,879 Speaker 1: I mean they already have one of these. This is 455 00:23:20,920 --> 00:23:23,480 Speaker 1: little trick they do, Casey. Yeah, they'll tell you, well, 456 00:23:23,480 --> 00:23:26,040 Speaker 1: your taxes aren't going up because we already have a 457 00:23:26,040 --> 00:23:29,560 Speaker 1: school referendum, So just continuing the school referendum isn't really 458 00:23:29,600 --> 00:23:31,240 Speaker 1: going to raise your taxes, when, of course, the reality 459 00:23:31,320 --> 00:23:32,879 Speaker 1: is your taxes go way down if they didn't have 460 00:23:32,920 --> 00:23:35,520 Speaker 1: the school referendum. Like, how much additional are you paying? 461 00:23:35,640 --> 00:23:38,200 Speaker 1: Have you done like math on your house, Mitchell, because 462 00:23:38,200 --> 00:23:41,639 Speaker 1: of this school referendum, math on my house. 463 00:23:41,840 --> 00:23:45,280 Speaker 4: My taxes went up almost four hundred dollars a year 464 00:23:45,440 --> 00:23:48,480 Speaker 4: a year because of this referendum. 465 00:23:48,600 --> 00:23:49,960 Speaker 2: Okay, wait wait wait, wait real quick. 466 00:23:50,160 --> 00:23:55,639 Speaker 1: So the property tax cut max was three hundred, the 467 00:23:55,640 --> 00:23:58,680 Speaker 1: school referendum's four hundred. Then you got the possibility of 468 00:23:58,680 --> 00:24:00,960 Speaker 1: your local income taxes going up. Your private tax would 469 00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:02,879 Speaker 1: keep going up every year because they're not dealing with 470 00:24:02,920 --> 00:24:06,399 Speaker 1: the assessments. So Mitchell, you're telling me that the school referendum, 471 00:24:06,800 --> 00:24:11,000 Speaker 1: which I told the governor was gonna happen, is more 472 00:24:11,520 --> 00:24:12,960 Speaker 1: than what you're going to get in this in this 473 00:24:13,040 --> 00:24:13,880 Speaker 1: property tax cut. 474 00:24:13,920 --> 00:24:17,080 Speaker 4: Is that what you're telling us considerably because I'm not 475 00:24:17,200 --> 00:24:20,800 Speaker 4: getting the full three hundred dollars because that is a tap. 476 00:24:21,080 --> 00:24:21,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right. 477 00:24:21,720 --> 00:24:24,800 Speaker 4: My house is not worth three hundred thousand, so I'm 478 00:24:24,840 --> 00:24:27,119 Speaker 4: not even getting the full three hundred dollars back. 479 00:24:27,440 --> 00:24:29,800 Speaker 2: All right, real quick, we got to get to this. 480 00:24:29,840 --> 00:24:31,760 Speaker 1: You have also desperately tried to get a hold of 481 00:24:31,760 --> 00:24:33,840 Speaker 1: the Lieutenant governor, and. 482 00:24:33,720 --> 00:24:35,399 Speaker 2: He's busy, he is. 483 00:24:35,640 --> 00:24:39,120 Speaker 1: He has not directly returned your phone calls either, even 484 00:24:39,119 --> 00:24:42,120 Speaker 1: though he promised on our show that he would help 485 00:24:42,200 --> 00:24:44,679 Speaker 1: knock on the doors as well. Did I imagine that, Casey? 486 00:24:44,800 --> 00:24:47,160 Speaker 1: He did say that, didn't he did? Yeah, Okay, you've 487 00:24:47,200 --> 00:24:48,520 Speaker 1: not been able to get a hold of him either. 488 00:24:49,720 --> 00:24:54,440 Speaker 4: No. I have heard mac from from his office through 489 00:24:54,480 --> 00:24:58,920 Speaker 4: email and received one phone call, and that was about 490 00:24:58,920 --> 00:25:02,840 Speaker 4: three weeks ago when I first done that, and I 491 00:25:02,920 --> 00:25:05,639 Speaker 4: pretty much got lip service that we'll send it to 492 00:25:05,720 --> 00:25:08,479 Speaker 4: our team and we'll look at it. Haven't heard anything 493 00:25:08,560 --> 00:25:09,440 Speaker 4: back from them either. 494 00:25:09,640 --> 00:25:10,800 Speaker 2: Now I know, Casey. 495 00:25:12,240 --> 00:25:15,280 Speaker 1: I know that he got the info because I gave 496 00:25:15,480 --> 00:25:18,480 Speaker 1: Mitchell's name and phone number this weekend directly to someone 497 00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:21,439 Speaker 1: who gave it to who is supposed to give it 498 00:25:21,480 --> 00:25:23,359 Speaker 1: to Micah, so he can't even say, like, blame it 499 00:25:23,400 --> 00:25:25,280 Speaker 1: on the team. I gave it directly to someone who 500 00:25:25,359 --> 00:25:28,160 Speaker 1: is going to give it to Micah. Now, someone finally 501 00:25:28,200 --> 00:25:30,199 Speaker 1: what got a hold of you here and wants to 502 00:25:30,240 --> 00:25:32,760 Speaker 1: talk to you. Is that what you're saying, finally after 503 00:25:32,800 --> 00:25:34,360 Speaker 1: we did all this, But it was not the Lieutenant 504 00:25:34,359 --> 00:25:36,760 Speaker 1: governor directly who promised to go knock on the doors. 505 00:25:37,320 --> 00:25:43,680 Speaker 4: No, it wasn't. And my issue with this referendum continuance 506 00:25:44,119 --> 00:25:48,200 Speaker 4: is everything that Avon's been telling the people on their 507 00:25:48,920 --> 00:25:53,840 Speaker 4: vote yes for the school facebook page. When you give 508 00:25:53,880 --> 00:25:57,199 Speaker 4: them numbers and asked him about it, they blocked you. 509 00:25:57,760 --> 00:26:00,960 Speaker 1: Of course, I've been through this by they Welcome to 510 00:26:01,040 --> 00:26:03,480 Speaker 1: the party, Palell. We did this in Brownsburg. You got 511 00:26:03,480 --> 00:26:06,040 Speaker 1: to be as mean as humanly possible to these school people. 512 00:26:06,200 --> 00:26:08,119 Speaker 1: You got to be as mean and as nasty as 513 00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:11,280 Speaker 1: humanly possible to these within the confines of the law 514 00:26:11,280 --> 00:26:14,960 Speaker 1: and decent society, of course. But because they're rotten, Mitchell, 515 00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:16,600 Speaker 1: they're rotten, and they don't care about you at all. 516 00:26:16,640 --> 00:26:18,520 Speaker 2: They just want stuff for themselves. 517 00:26:19,560 --> 00:26:23,840 Speaker 4: If people would actually do research on numbers, it's all 518 00:26:23,880 --> 00:26:29,480 Speaker 4: public information. The school has a budget, they would take 519 00:26:29,480 --> 00:26:32,639 Speaker 4: a family that makes two hundred thousand dollars a year 520 00:26:33,440 --> 00:26:40,360 Speaker 4: over six hundred years to match what the school's budget 521 00:26:40,480 --> 00:26:46,000 Speaker 4: is for one year. It's outstand. When I've done the math, 522 00:26:46,040 --> 00:26:46,879 Speaker 4: I couldn't believe it. 523 00:26:47,480 --> 00:26:49,840 Speaker 1: All right, hey, before we let you go, because obviously 524 00:26:49,880 --> 00:26:53,080 Speaker 1: we want to draw attention to these school referendums. They're ridiculous. 525 00:26:53,440 --> 00:26:57,000 Speaker 1: They should not exist. Everybody should vote. Know, if you're 526 00:26:57,000 --> 00:27:00,800 Speaker 1: an avon, stop giving these people whatever they want. But 527 00:27:00,840 --> 00:27:02,520 Speaker 1: the other part of this, Mitchell, too, is you went 528 00:27:02,560 --> 00:27:05,199 Speaker 1: to the property tax rally, you took your time, you 529 00:27:05,280 --> 00:27:07,520 Speaker 1: paid your money, you paid to park all those things 530 00:27:07,600 --> 00:27:10,560 Speaker 1: to go. You heard Braun say fight, fight fight. I 531 00:27:10,600 --> 00:27:12,840 Speaker 1: of course heard Braun say knock on the doors. You 532 00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:14,800 Speaker 1: heard Mike on this radio show say they knock on 533 00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:18,560 Speaker 1: the doors. It's just address the hippocrisy these people, Mitchell, 534 00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:20,400 Speaker 1: because you've been trying for weeks to get hold of them, 535 00:27:20,640 --> 00:27:23,119 Speaker 1: and no one will do what they promised they would do. 536 00:27:23,800 --> 00:27:27,800 Speaker 4: No, they haven't. All right, it's frustrating. 537 00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:31,760 Speaker 1: And if I stand by Casey, if maybe the governor 538 00:27:31,920 --> 00:27:34,000 Speaker 1: and Micah are a little insecure that they don't know 539 00:27:34,080 --> 00:27:34,879 Speaker 1: how to do doors. 540 00:27:35,359 --> 00:27:36,760 Speaker 2: They don't know how to knock on doors. 541 00:27:36,920 --> 00:27:39,080 Speaker 1: No one is better at beating school referendums than me. 542 00:27:39,280 --> 00:27:42,040 Speaker 1: If the governor and Micah just holded their words say 543 00:27:42,080 --> 00:27:44,720 Speaker 1: they'll go knock on doors, I will go with them. Yeah, 544 00:27:44,760 --> 00:27:46,320 Speaker 1: and I will show them how to do this. I 545 00:27:46,320 --> 00:27:48,600 Speaker 1: will hold their hands. Okay, and we will we will, 546 00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:51,480 Speaker 1: we will do this together. Mitchell, good luck on defeating 547 00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:53,480 Speaker 1: the school referendum. I hope I get the opportunity with 548 00:27:53,520 --> 00:27:55,680 Speaker 1: the governor and Lieutenant governor do these doors with you, 549 00:27:56,080 --> 00:27:58,840 Speaker 1: and thank you for your time telling us how they 550 00:27:58,960 --> 00:27:59,879 Speaker 1: aren't following. 551 00:28:00,800 --> 00:28:03,200 Speaker 4: Thank you, guys. I love you guys. A show never 552 00:28:03,240 --> 00:28:03,840 Speaker 4: miss a day. 553 00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:07,080 Speaker 3: It's Kennily Casey on ninety three WIBC. 554 00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:14,639 Speaker 1: Okay, if you've got to ask a question, rig the 555 00:28:14,760 --> 00:28:21,040 Speaker 1: questions wording this much to get the answer you want. 556 00:28:20,720 --> 00:28:22,480 Speaker 1: I don't think that's the actual answer. 557 00:28:22,560 --> 00:28:26,280 Speaker 3: The answer is no. There's an independent poll out Indiana 558 00:28:26,359 --> 00:28:29,560 Speaker 3: Opinion Survey, and they're asking questions about redistricting. 559 00:28:29,800 --> 00:28:32,080 Speaker 1: Several people had posted this online that I guess got 560 00:28:32,119 --> 00:28:35,760 Speaker 1: the poll. Would you like to read how they're asking 561 00:28:35,800 --> 00:28:38,640 Speaker 1: this question? It's not like are you do you support 562 00:28:38,720 --> 00:28:39,800 Speaker 1: or oppose redistricting? 563 00:28:39,960 --> 00:28:40,120 Speaker 4: Right? 564 00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:41,720 Speaker 1: Like that's how you would get a fair answer on 565 00:28:41,760 --> 00:28:46,160 Speaker 1: how people feel about redistricting. Listen to how whoever's paying 566 00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:48,040 Speaker 1: for this poll is wording the poll. 567 00:28:48,840 --> 00:28:50,440 Speaker 2: Would you be more. 568 00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:53,160 Speaker 3: Likely or less likely to vote for a candidate for 569 00:28:53,280 --> 00:28:57,880 Speaker 3: Indiana State Legislature who voted to change Indiana's congressional district 570 00:28:57,960 --> 00:29:01,800 Speaker 3: map mid decade out of the twenty five elections in 571 00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:05,800 Speaker 3: order to correct the imbalance of other states counting illegal 572 00:29:05,840 --> 00:29:10,320 Speaker 3: immigrants and possibly turn two Indiana congressional districts currently held 573 00:29:10,360 --> 00:29:15,960 Speaker 3: by the Democrats into Republican seats, increasing the Republican advantage 574 00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:16,719 Speaker 3: in Congress. 575 00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:19,040 Speaker 1: If someone has to ask you a question that is 576 00:29:19,080 --> 00:29:20,880 Speaker 1: that long to get out of their mouth, the answer 577 00:29:20,920 --> 00:29:21,520 Speaker 1: is always no. 578 00:29:22,280 --> 00:29:26,040 Speaker 3: If it makes no difference, just indicate so you can 579 00:29:26,080 --> 00:29:30,040 Speaker 3: answer much more likely, somewhat more likely, somewhat less likely, 580 00:29:30,360 --> 00:29:32,920 Speaker 3: much less likely, no difference. Don't know. 581 00:29:33,280 --> 00:29:35,480 Speaker 2: Look, they they're gonna do. 582 00:29:35,560 --> 00:29:37,920 Speaker 1: They're gonna do it, right, I mean, it seems pretty 583 00:29:37,920 --> 00:29:40,360 Speaker 1: obvious at this point, and they're just grasping at straws 584 00:29:40,360 --> 00:29:42,680 Speaker 1: to get anything to back them up to support doing 585 00:29:42,760 --> 00:29:45,240 Speaker 1: this other than we're afraid of Charlie Kirk and Donald Trump. 586 00:29:45,360 --> 00:29:47,640 Speaker 1: I mean, they're trying to find something to hang their 587 00:29:47,640 --> 00:29:50,400 Speaker 1: hat on and they simply can't do it, so they 588 00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:52,560 Speaker 1: got to try to rig I mean, they should tell 589 00:29:52,560 --> 00:29:55,360 Speaker 1: you what bad public policy is. And again, for these 590 00:29:55,360 --> 00:29:58,000 Speaker 1: people who are excited about this, why are you excited 591 00:29:58,040 --> 00:30:00,840 Speaker 1: about two more Jefferson Shreeves in the Congress? Is that 592 00:30:00,920 --> 00:30:06,400 Speaker 1: really worth killing your honesty and integrity? Two more Jefferson Shreeves, 593 00:30:07,160 --> 00:30:12,000 Speaker 1: two more establishment squished Republicans that'll just do whatever they're 594 00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:14,720 Speaker 1: told by the party bosses. What if the Republican party 595 00:30:14,720 --> 00:30:18,280 Speaker 1: bosses ever done for you? And yet people are just 596 00:30:18,400 --> 00:30:22,920 Speaker 1: suspending all logic and reason and I mean previously rational, 597 00:30:23,480 --> 00:30:24,960 Speaker 1: level headed, independent people. 598 00:30:25,960 --> 00:30:29,280 Speaker 2: We gotta do it because Massachusetts. 599 00:30:28,320 --> 00:30:30,840 Speaker 1: Doesn't have any Republican representative's case. 600 00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:34,520 Speaker 3: Well, speaking of other states, here's another question. Knowing that 601 00:30:34,560 --> 00:30:38,760 Speaker 3: the Biden administration allowed states controlled by liberal democratic governments 602 00:30:38,800 --> 00:30:42,040 Speaker 3: like California, New York, and Illinois to count illegal immigrants 603 00:30:42,040 --> 00:30:43,360 Speaker 3: in the twenty twenty census. 604 00:30:44,280 --> 00:30:48,360 Speaker 1: Papa bas who was in charge of the country in 605 00:30:48,400 --> 00:30:50,800 Speaker 1: twenty nineteen to twenty twenty when the census was done. 606 00:30:50,600 --> 00:30:54,560 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, Republicans, that's right, Yeah, Yeah, that's right, that's correct. 607 00:30:54,560 --> 00:30:57,200 Speaker 1: The republic anyway, that's sorry because that woul appear someone 608 00:30:57,200 --> 00:30:59,640 Speaker 1: doesn't know the facts, that's wording that question. But I 609 00:30:59,760 --> 00:31:03,360 Speaker 1: never somebody would deliberately manipulate a question to get a result. 610 00:31:03,400 --> 00:31:04,840 Speaker 1: Gara ahead, I'm sorry I cut you off there. 611 00:31:05,080 --> 00:31:06,600 Speaker 2: Well, I was in mid run on cent. 612 00:31:06,960 --> 00:31:08,800 Speaker 1: Well, that's why I just want to point out the 613 00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:12,320 Speaker 1: Republicans we're in charge of the country when the census 614 00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:12,720 Speaker 1: was done. 615 00:31:12,800 --> 00:31:16,280 Speaker 3: Here's the actual question, would you support or oppose Governor 616 00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:20,560 Speaker 3: Mike Brown in state legislature redrawing the current congressional districts 617 00:31:20,600 --> 00:31:24,600 Speaker 3: mid decade ahead of the twenty six elections. Strongly support, 618 00:31:24,680 --> 00:31:28,080 Speaker 3: somewhat support, somewhat oppose, strongly oppose, don't know. 619 00:31:30,120 --> 00:31:31,680 Speaker 2: This is where we're at in our society. 620 00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:35,960 Speaker 1: They're so desperate to get to an answer which they 621 00:31:36,040 --> 00:31:38,760 Speaker 1: know is wrong. That's why we talk a lot about redistricting. 622 00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:41,080 Speaker 1: It's everything that we tell you about our government that 623 00:31:41,160 --> 00:31:43,040 Speaker 1: is wrong and why we're in the position we're in 624 00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:48,000 Speaker 1: and how are elected to people behave And it's on 625 00:31:48,080 --> 00:31:50,280 Speaker 1: display right here. It's not even the issue of redistricting, 626 00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:53,600 Speaker 1: it's it's the behavior around it. And then when you 627 00:31:53,640 --> 00:31:57,000 Speaker 1: extrapolate this behavior that goes out to almost every issue, 628 00:31:57,440 --> 00:32:01,120 Speaker 1: you get the bad public policy. They know people aren't 629 00:32:01,120 --> 00:32:04,600 Speaker 1: supportive of it. At best, most people are indifferent to it. 630 00:32:04,840 --> 00:32:08,440 Speaker 1: There's not this None of these reps can point to, 631 00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:11,720 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, I'm getting thousands of phone calls and 632 00:32:11,800 --> 00:32:14,200 Speaker 1: emails demanding. 633 00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:16,080 Speaker 2: That I do this. It's an angry mob of people. 634 00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:20,200 Speaker 1: No, there's a handful of hardcore Trump people that are 635 00:32:20,240 --> 00:32:22,719 Speaker 1: for this, and I'm not going to dispute that they exist, 636 00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:26,600 Speaker 1: that they're breathing oxygen, that they're out there, but by 637 00:32:26,680 --> 00:32:29,360 Speaker 1: and large, people are at best indifferent, and if they 638 00:32:29,400 --> 00:32:33,320 Speaker 1: actually think it through and remove whatever fear mongering the 639 00:32:33,360 --> 00:32:37,120 Speaker 1: Republicans are doing a ridiculous wording like those questions. They're 640 00:32:37,120 --> 00:32:41,920 Speaker 1: against this because it is totally playing politics with our elections. 641 00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:44,440 Speaker 1: It's not about you, it's about rigging the system to 642 00:32:44,440 --> 00:32:47,520 Speaker 1: get themselves. Two more Jefferson shrieves in the Congress. 643 00:32:47,280 --> 00:32:50,160 Speaker 3: September ninth, they're going to have that special session. 644 00:32:51,400 --> 00:32:53,800 Speaker 1: Well, I was told I was told this week would 645 00:32:53,840 --> 00:32:56,240 Speaker 1: be the week, and it was a Tom Davies who 646 00:32:56,240 --> 00:32:58,560 Speaker 1: had reported that they were supposed to have some big 647 00:32:58,600 --> 00:33:00,800 Speaker 1: caucus this week to decide what they're going to do. 648 00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:03,840 Speaker 1: So it looks like that that may be the thing, 649 00:33:03,880 --> 00:33:05,880 Speaker 1: but with these people who knows. 650 00:33:05,720 --> 00:33:09,400 Speaker 3: Yes, it's Kennelly Casey, It's ninety three w ib C. 651 00:33:09,600 --> 00:33:10,120 Speaker 2: Good morning,