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Speaker 1: Tony Katz today.

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Speaker 2: If you want to be angry with President Trump for

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Speaker 2: extending the subsidies of Obamacare.

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Speaker 1: You're more than welcome to. But did you not know

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Speaker 1: what you were voting for?

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Speaker 2: Did you not understand what was happening all around you?

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Speaker 1: This was the only thing that was going to happen.

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Speaker 2: And I know a guy on radio who told you

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Speaker 2: exactly that. It was me, of course, Tony Katz. Tony

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Speaker 2: Katz today, guys, good to be here. Trump was going

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Speaker 2: to extend the subsidies on Obamacare, not that I wanted that.

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Speaker 2: I want Obamacare gone. Democrats couldn't have him steal their thunder,

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Speaker 2: so they decided to engage a shutdown so they can

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Speaker 2: you know, just strong arm Republicans into, you know, giving

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Speaker 1: Okay, okay, we give all that stuff.

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Speaker 2: And it didn't happen, and Democrats are indeed infuriated about it.

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Speaker 1: But of course Trump was going to extend the subsidies.

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Speaker 2: The question is what he's trying to do now? Is

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Speaker 2: this different than extending the subsidies. The answer is no

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Speaker 2: and yes. Talking to Ed Marcy of hotair dot com,

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Speaker 2: hotair dot com through Axios, Trump beats Schumer and Jeffries

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Speaker 2: we have to extend the subsidies, is that Trump was

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Speaker 2: unquote was saved in America. They couldn't lose this thing

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Speaker 2: that is their juggernaut. You see this story, you go

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Speaker 1: What is the political reality of it?

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Speaker 3: Well, I mean the plan itself is a two year extension,

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Speaker 4: And that's what this is.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so this doesn't solve anything that we would want

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Speaker 1: That's the fundamental flaw with all government healthcare. But there

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Speaker 3: This is not even really about costs. It's about politics.

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Speaker 2: And anybody didn't know this was coming. It didn't doesn't

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Speaker 3: Well eight years ago, Donald Trump did try to get

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Speaker 4: With the subsidy extension.

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Speaker 2: Admittedly it's with nicer chairs, right, you're still being a Titanic.

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Speaker 2: The issue is going to be how do you sell this?

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Speaker 1: We forced him into this. Democrats aren't smart enough to

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Speaker 1: Stick? Is this because I forget who was reporting it.

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Speaker 4: So my guess is that it's a it's a risk.

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Speaker 2: As for Marjorie Taylor Green, I do wish her well

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Speaker 2: That's all wait till she finds out the view won't

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Speaker 1: We do not give Elon Musk enough credit.

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Speaker 2: Now, that's different than putting Elon Musk up on a pedestal.

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Speaker 2: Tony Katz, Tony Katz today. Good to be with you,

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Speaker 2: Good to be here. It's that Elon Musk buying x

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Speaker 2: Dorsey tell me what a good guy he is, or

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Speaker 2: They're all liars. They're all frauds, just like a mosque them.

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Speaker 2: People did when quoting them is give them support, give

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Speaker 1: Social media isn't real.

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Speaker 1: And this is huge.

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Speaker 1: This is Tony Katz today.

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Speaker 2: I don't know what I'm supposed to make about this

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Speaker 2: And it's an argument that we've been making here from

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Speaker 2: basics here at marssy. What is this peace deal? Twenty

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Speaker 2: Vladimir Putin. As I said to people on the political right,

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Speaker 2: unhappy with this deal and think that it's capitulation or

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Speaker 2: giving into Russia's demands outside of the full on assassination

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Speaker 2: of Vladimir Putin, what works for you? So the idea

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Speaker 2: of this isn't a great peace deal. Have they determined

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Speaker 2: what would be a great peace deal ed?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, what they want is a full restoration of Ukrainian

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Speaker 3: sovereignty as of pre twenty fourteen, because remember Russian's basically

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Speaker 3: incorporated the dawnbas and Crimea in twenty fourteen, wasn't part

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Speaker 3: of the twenty twenty two invasion.

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Speaker 4: They were already there.

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Speaker 3: So what they want is a restoration of Ukrainian sovereignty

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Speaker 3: as recognized by the West. Well, Russia's not going to

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Speaker 3: stop fighting and hand that territory back. They're just simply

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Speaker 3: not going to do it. Furthermore, the territories that they

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Speaker 3: occupy are primarily ethnic Russian, not ethnic Ukrainian. Which was

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Speaker 3: one of the big political problems in Ukraine was this

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Speaker 3: fight between the ethnic Russians and the ethnic Ukrainians that

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Speaker 3: kept pulling the country uh to the east and the

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Speaker 3: west based on whatever the election results happened to be.

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Speaker 3: And this is it's not a it's not an issue, it's.

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Speaker 4: Not an area.

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Speaker 3: That's where you're going to have stable Ukrainian sovereignty for

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Speaker 3: the long run anyway. And you're not going to get

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Speaker 3: it back unless you can actually defeat Russia in the

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Speaker 3: field and drive their forces back. And even if you

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Speaker 3: did that, they'd come again. And Ukraine simply isn't prepared

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Speaker 3: to do that, and the United States and Europe doesn't

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Speaker 3: want to, don't want to start World War three to

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Speaker 3: get it back. That's been very clear. I mean, the

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Speaker 3: idea that we're going to exclude Ukraine from NATO is

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Speaker 3: also status quo. If we were going to have Ukraine

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Speaker 3: and NATO, we'd already have troops in Ukraine fighting the

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Speaker 3: Russians and we'd already be at World War three. We're

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Speaker 3: not going to do that. We're not going to go

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Speaker 3: to World War three to protect Ukraine. It's that part's

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Speaker 3: been made very clear. So you can want justice, because

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Speaker 3: what this this peace plan is not justice, But what

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Speaker 3: this peace plan is is an offer ramp so people

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Speaker 3: stop killing each other over the same few hundred kilometers

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Speaker 3: of ground.

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Speaker 4: And it's we've.

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Speaker 3: Done this now for almost four years. It's not going

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Speaker 3: to be settled by force of arms because neither country

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Speaker 3: can accomplish it.

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Speaker 2: So the argument is going to be talking to Ed

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Speaker 2: Morrissey of hotair dot com, is that you see this

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Speaker 2: is the populace Trump. This is this isn't a conservative

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Speaker 2: way to do things. I'm not a populist. I am

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Speaker 2: a conservative. I don't like this deal at all. I

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Speaker 2: want Russia pushed back all the way. But I deal

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Speaker 2: with the reality that I have in terms of the will,

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Speaker 2: the dollars, the manpower, the mood of the American people,

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Speaker 2: and the electric They haven't wanted to do this, I

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Speaker 2: think because leadership has not shown a willingness to do

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Speaker 2: this in major in major cases, I don't know how

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Speaker 2: to get everything that I want in this battle, in

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Speaker 2: this fight, in this desire to make the killing end.

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Speaker 2: As a matter of historical perspective if you have it,

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Speaker 2: or of a matter of taking a look at people

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Speaker 2: who are claiming they see this is the problem with

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Speaker 2: Trump's populism and There's many problems with Trump's populism. Sometimes

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Speaker 2: good is better than what you already have. Why can't

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Speaker 2: we just take good and see what we can grow

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Speaker 2: from there.

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Speaker 3: Well, there is a concern that this piece deal might

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Speaker 3: just be a way for Russia to re arm because

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Speaker 3: of course be able to write. There is an issue

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Speaker 3: with that, which is the reason why Ukraine wants Western

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Speaker 3: security guarantees, and it's the reason why Western security guarantees

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Speaker 3: have been incorporated into this, which is to say that

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Speaker 3: we will commit troops if Russia invades again in force.

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Speaker 3: And by the way, the Dunbas or at least the

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Speaker 3: Dunets Oblast would be demilitarized, so it'd be a little

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Speaker 3: bit more difficult for Russia to do it the next

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Speaker 3: time out. And again I don't like this deal either.

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Speaker 3: I think Russia should have been defeated. I was hoping

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Speaker 3: that Ukraine could do it. I didn't want to go

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Speaker 3: to World War three to achieve that. So if you're

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Speaker 3: not going to do that, if you don't want to

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Speaker 3: send American troops and German troops and French troops into

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Speaker 3: Ukraine and declare war on Russia, on behalf of the

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Speaker 3: Ukrainians then you're going to have to start looking at

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Speaker 3: the reality of this, and the reality of this is

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Speaker 3: Ukraine can't beat Russia in the long run. Russia probably

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Speaker 3: can't conquer Ukraine in the long run. What you're setting

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Speaker 3: up here, if you don't want to have some sort

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Speaker 3: of an off ramp, some sort of negotiated off ramp,

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Speaker 3: is you're setting up twenty years of absolute human carnage

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Speaker 3: which could very easily spread into other areas. And Russia's

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Speaker 3: already been trying to press that on the frontiers of

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Speaker 3: NATO with drone incursions and that sort of thing, and

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Speaker 3: we've actually sent up airplanes now start challenging that.

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Speaker 4: So I believe that that's backed off.

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Speaker 3: But those are the types of risks that you run

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Speaker 3: when you have wars going on in your backyard. And again,

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Speaker 3: this is not justice. It's not a good deal for anybody,

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Speaker 3: but at least it might stop the war and might

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Speaker 3: be a path to a more lasting settlement of the

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Speaker 3: conflict in this region, which has really been going on

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Speaker 3: for ever since the Soviet Union collapsed.

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Speaker 2: If you understand Trump at all, the deal has to

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Speaker 2: be made so he could say I stopped the war.

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Speaker 2: I did exactly what I said I was going to

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Speaker 2: do the fact that Russia cannot be trusted is something

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Speaker 2: that everybody knows and is a part that is an

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Speaker 2: afterthought in this.

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Speaker 1: I'm with you. I would have liked to have pushed

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Speaker 1: the Russians all the way back.

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Speaker 2: And anybody who thinks this is entire issue, I've always

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Speaker 2: thoughts a nutty proposition. But it is a difference between

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Speaker 2: me and you, most probably as you're talking and the

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Speaker 2: populace talking to Ed Morrissey off hot air dot com.

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Speaker 2: Let me move the subject just a bit to who

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Speaker 2: has become, uh, the great great comedy relief in America.

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Speaker 2: Her name is it? Is it aften Bain or aten Ben?

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Speaker 3: I don't know how you pronounce it, but uh, it's

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Speaker 3: probably been. But yeah, this is the obscure state legislative

556
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Speaker 3: legislator from Tennessee who wants to run for Congress. There's

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Speaker 3: a special election a week from today, and uh, man,

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Speaker 3: she is the gift that keeps on giving.

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Speaker 2: So she something else. I'm gonna I'm gonna see if

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Speaker 2: I can share this with you. She is on the record,

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Speaker 2: uh saying this.

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Speaker 5: I mean that could be as seemingly naive as like

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Speaker 5: the way I dressed, in the way I present it myself,

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Speaker 5: you know, and just this southern bell kind of are

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Speaker 5: uh that I try to cultivate. And it's a sorority, Like,

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Speaker 5: I mean, it's funny.

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Speaker 3: Now because what are the folks I work with and

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Speaker 3: they're like, you were in a sorority.

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Speaker 4: I live in the sorority house. Yeah, I mean one staple.

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Speaker 1: Of whites sororities.

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Speaker 2: That's probably the tamest piece I have from her. She

572
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Speaker 2: says that men can give birth. She talks about representing

573
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Speaker 2: Nashville and how much she hates Nashville and hates Broadway

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Speaker 2: and hates the bacherette parties and hates country music, everything

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Speaker 2: about her. And then there's this video from twenty nineteen

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Speaker 2: when she stormed the office of then Governor Lee and

577
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Speaker 2: she got thrown out and she's on the floor. A

578
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Speaker 2: friend is sobbing. She's like, you should be ashamed of yourselves.

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Speaker 2: If there was a caricature of feminism, this would be it.

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Speaker 2: There's no cartoon as Michael Ramirez cannot come close to

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Speaker 2: creating this pen to pay.

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Speaker 3: I don't know, Michael's really talented, so he might he

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Speaker 3: might have come up with a better one, but until

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Speaker 3: he does, she is the epitome of the awfl right,

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Speaker 3: the affluent white female liberal and our awfuls as we.

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Speaker 2: Call them, and the decays are really pushing her to

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Speaker 2: be the next member of Congress.

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Speaker 3: Well, I don't know if the Democrats are really pushing

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Speaker 3: her at this point.

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Speaker 4: I mean, the.

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Speaker 3: Whole thing with this is what happens when you when

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Speaker 3: you have somebody who's unprepared for the moment. And we

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Speaker 3: haven't even gotten to the MS Now interview where the

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Speaker 3: hosts of the Weekend we're trying to rescue her by

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Speaker 3: giving her an opportunity to contextualize her support for burning

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Speaker 3: down police stations and for Black Lives Matter in twenty twenty.

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Speaker 3: Now they're bringing this up so that she can say, look,

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Speaker 3: it was the heat of the moment, you know, looking back,

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Speaker 3: that was probably not the wise thing to say or do.

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Speaker 4: I certainly don't believe that.

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Speaker 1: Now.

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Speaker 4: She doesn't do any of that.

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Speaker 3: She then says when they bring it up, she says, oh,

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Speaker 3: I didn't come here to debate talk you know, cable

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Speaker 3: news talking points. While she's appearing on a cable news

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Speaker 3: show with people who are trying to help her, who

607
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Speaker 3: are trying to rescue her because these tweets have been

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Speaker 3: have re emerged, and they're trying to bake. They're doing

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Speaker 3: a prosecutor's trick or a trial attorney's trick of bringing

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Speaker 3: out the bad stuff on the friendly examinations so that

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Speaker 3: they can put it, they can spend it however they want,

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Speaker 3: and she absolutely is not recognizing that. It refuses to

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Speaker 3: discuss what her positions are on burning down police stations.

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Speaker 3: Eight years later, it's it's easily the worst interview at

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Speaker 3: least since Katie Porter, you know, yelled at her assistant

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Speaker 3: while she was on the air with doing a commercial.

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Speaker 1: Right, So yeah, I mean, it's just you're in the

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Speaker 1: blanking so bad. You're in the blanking shot.

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Speaker 2: And the best is at Katie Porter with former congress

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Speaker 2: women running for governor, in running running for governor now

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Speaker 2: she already lost the Senate race in California. And the

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Speaker 2: best is that assistant who's getting screamed that is like,

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Speaker 2: I just wanted to tell you got.

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Speaker 1: The facts wrong.

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Speaker 2: It's actually that's this and this, it's correcting Katie Porter

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Speaker 2: after getting screamed at for being in the blanking shot.

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Speaker 1: It is so terrific.

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Speaker 2: It is joyous to witness ed Marcyhotair dot com. I

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Speaker 2: appreciate you, really appreciate the time for the in depth

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Speaker 2: on all the subjects. I'm Tony Katz. This is Tony

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Speaker 2: Katz today. Gretitituneberg has been banned from Venice.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, more people need to get on doing this.

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Speaker 2: Right here, Tony Katz, Tony Katz today, Good to be

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Speaker 2: with you.

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Speaker 1: Greta Tunberg is a performance artist.

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Speaker 2: Now you know her as the alleged climate activist and

637
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Speaker 2: shouting how dare you at the UN and you know,

638
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Speaker 2: scowling at Donald Trump like she was doing anything at all.

639
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Speaker 2: What she was doing was being abused by adults on

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Speaker 2: this idea of the climate grift, And it's really awful

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Speaker 2: to have witnessed. Now she's an adult and she floats

642
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Speaker 2: over to Israel to be supportive of terrorists. She's a

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Speaker 2: disgusting person. But also, if I wanted to play it

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Speaker 2: in a more kind way, I would argue she's a

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Speaker 2: broken person who is not mentally stable, and I would

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Speaker 2: say there should be real concern for her, someone close

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Speaker 2: to her ass to protect her, as opposed to using her.

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Speaker 2: That's my take her and some other so called activists.

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Speaker 2: I say performance artists, because what if I'm wrong, and

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Speaker 2: what if she has no mental issue. She just likes

651
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Speaker 2: being the center of attention in silly ways. It's performance art,

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Speaker 2: that's all it is. It's just mime, but with screeching.

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Speaker 2: She went to Italy joining something called extinction rebellion protesters

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Speaker 2: and poured dye into the Grand Canal and made it

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Speaker 2: bright green. She was fined one hundred and seventy two

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Speaker 2: dollars and it's been hit with a forty eight hour

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Speaker 2: band from entering Venice, Italy.

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Speaker 1: I don't even think that's long enough. It's not long enough.

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Speaker 2: They were doing this to quote draw attention to the

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Speaker 2: massive effects of climate collapse aps. No, no, no, not

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Speaker 2: climate change, not global warming, climate collapse. Oh, this is

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Speaker 2: where we're at now. So things have gotten even more

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Speaker 2: fraught that it's climate collapse.

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Speaker 1: Fantastic.

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Speaker 2: These people, by the way, extinction rebellion wherever you can,

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Speaker 2: if they're engaged into facing property or destroying things or

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Speaker 2: doing just arrest and it's a forty eight hour ban, no, no, no,

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Speaker 2: four hundred and eighty day ban. You don't get to

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Speaker 2: come back lifetime. Stuff start getting tougher with these people.

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Speaker 2: But remember what Gretit Tundberg is doing is either a

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Speaker 2: short side of the mental illness or its performance ared.

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Speaker 2: She doesn't believe anything, she has no core, she has feelings,

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Speaker 2: and this is a way for her to act out

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Speaker 2: on those feelings and make a buff. Because remember she

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Speaker 2: doesn't have a job, she doesn't do anything. She has

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Speaker 2: to get some dollars somehow.

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