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Speaker 1: three weeks ago.

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Speaker 2: He gifted to the entire catter Central boys basketball team,

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Speaker 2: his halle Wons or whatever they're called.

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Speaker 1: It's very cool. Yep, very cool. H Yeah. I mean

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Speaker 1: the and I don't mean that as much to knock

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Speaker 1: on Victor Oladipo on this. Find somebody in the Bucks

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Speaker 1: organization that used to play for the Pacers and make

435
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Speaker 1: fun of them day. But Oladipo, now, by the way,

436
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Speaker 1: playing in the G League for Milwaukee's G League team

437
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Speaker 1: to work his way back from injury. But I just

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Speaker 1: found it interesting because Halliburton is a guy that is

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Speaker 1: out for the year, and yet he is there and

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Speaker 1: maintaining this positive vibe, which is kind of what the

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Speaker 1: Pacers saw in Tyre's Halliburton when they brought him and

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Speaker 1: plucked him out of Sacramento, joining us now in the

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Speaker 1: But from Locked on Pacers Tony East joining US now

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Speaker 1: Tony last night, I thought a game where Benedict Mathern

451
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Speaker 1: continued to show that, you know, he is obviously a

452
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Speaker 1: special player and a guy that has a unique ability

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Speaker 1: to score the basketball. I still wonder and maintain, is

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Speaker 1: Benedict Mathern a guy that is going to be that

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Speaker 1: kind of a player for the Pacers beyond this season?

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Speaker 3: That's the question, And like they can't even answer it

457
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Speaker 3: right now, right because what they've needed him to be

458
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Speaker 3: right now is not that type of player. Like all

459
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Speaker 3: the questions we talked about when it comes to his

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Speaker 3: fit and how they'll be used for the Pacers next year,

461
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Speaker 3: you know, when they're presumably running and gunning again, they

462
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Speaker 3: can't answer. They can't. They haven't been able to play

463
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Speaker 3: that way and they've needed Ben mather to just be

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Speaker 3: Ben Mathern, Go cook, go be your defender, Go drow

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Speaker 3: falgos course in points honestly, and maybe this is just

466
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Speaker 3: masched by good shot making and like actually winning a game,

467
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Speaker 3: but last night felt more like a blend. Like it

468
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Speaker 3: didn't feel I didn't There was no stretch of the

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Speaker 3: game where Ben Matheren was just like in takeover mode

470
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Speaker 3: and had ten points in forty five seconds or something,

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Speaker 3: and he still finished with twenty four and had the

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Speaker 3: biggest defensive play of the game in a win. So that,

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Speaker 3: like last night's game, is the type of game I

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Speaker 3: think that both parties will hope to see more of

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Speaker 3: where he still leads the team in scoring and has

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Speaker 3: an excellent night, but also does a bunch of other

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Speaker 3: things the team is really proud of. Like after the

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Speaker 3: game where Carlisle obviously talked about the chase down stopped

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Speaker 3: or whatever it was. I don't know if he actually

480
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Speaker 3: blocked it, but also mentioned that during the game he

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Speaker 3: said to Mathern, hey, like, you're not defending well enough.

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Speaker 1: You to do this and that.

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Speaker 4: Better, and he thought he did, right.

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Speaker 3: That's that's the kind of stuff that will matter for him.

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Speaker 3: Beyond scoring twenty four points and will be valuable to

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Speaker 3: the Pacers next season when Haliburt is on the smiling, glistening,

487
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Speaker 3: earring Haliburton is back on the floor again.

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Speaker 1: You know the Tony Watching that game last night, I

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Speaker 1: think for the first time really this year, they got

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Speaker 1: out of Jay Huff what they were hoping for. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I think that's you know, that's if you get that right,

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Speaker 1: you're you're more than thrilled because he's hitting threes. He

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Speaker 1: he at one point had i think two blocks that

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Speaker 1: started to transition. And it's been a while since well

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Speaker 1: it's not been since he's been here, that we've seen

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Speaker 1: that level of play. Is that what they truly believe

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Speaker 1: he can be or was that the anomaly and even

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Speaker 1: above and beyond what they expected.

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Speaker 3: I mean, that's probably above and beyond the expectation. Twenty

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Speaker 3: That was his career highst twenty two and he had

501
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Speaker 3: twenty Like that was one of his best scoring games ever.

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Speaker 3: Like you were there, Jay Huff took heat check threes, right, like,

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Speaker 3: how often is that going to happen? And oh, by

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Speaker 3: the way, Jay Huff took heat check threes And I

505
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Speaker 3: was like, yep, he should take some heat check defeats

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Speaker 3: right now. He was feeling it.

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Speaker 4: To that extent.

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Speaker 3: I think what they hope for more like they thought

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Speaker 3: there'd be more consistency with the shot, certainly, and I

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Speaker 3: I mean, maybe not as much anymore. The season's been

511
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Speaker 3: going for a month, but I still think he's working

512
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Speaker 3: into shape with how the pacers playing, how much a

513
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Speaker 3: movement is required of him, which is atypical for basically

514
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Speaker 3: any system. If you're a big on the pacers, not

515
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Speaker 3: only are you moving defensively, but like on offens or

516
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Speaker 3: at the top of the key, you're getting the ball

517
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Speaker 3: side to side, like you're involved a lot. Your mind

518
00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:22,280
Speaker 3: is racing, your body's racing. It's tiring, it's exhausting. And

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Speaker 3: I know we wrote about it before the season, like

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Speaker 3: that was a thing that they noted about him, was

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Speaker 3: conditioning was a thing that mattered in the negative way

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Speaker 3: for him early. And so I think he's getting that,

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Speaker 3: like more lyft in his legs. You saw it on

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Speaker 3: the dunk obviously what peaklyft jhunk jay huff excuse me

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Speaker 3: could look like, and the threes were falling. But the

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Speaker 3: thing that I think that also got him closer to

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Speaker 3: the impact they maybe hoped was possible when they traded

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Speaker 3: a pick for him, was they stuck him in the

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Speaker 3: around the basket more with that zone defense, and you know,

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Speaker 3: he doesn't have to move around as much then his

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Speaker 3: natural gifts of being very tall and actually you know,

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Speaker 3: having a long wing span of block shots is more

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Speaker 3: useful when he's around the basket more often. If he's moving,

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Speaker 3: if he's pulled away from the rim, that's not as

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Speaker 3: valuable or something the Pacers can rely on. So I

536
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Speaker 3: think that shift was big for him strategically. We'll see

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Speaker 3: how much they can go to that. But they were

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Speaker 3: in Zone A loed in Detroit too, and of course

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Speaker 3: it's going to help and make you look really good

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Speaker 3: when you make shots. But look, I mean, Isaiah Jackson

541
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Speaker 3: was pretty good against Golden State, they almost beat Minnesota

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Speaker 3: and Tony Bradley's best game of the season, Jay Huff's

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Speaker 3: best game. They beat Charlotte like it's it's not a

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Speaker 3: coincidence that the center position when those when they get

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Speaker 3: forty plus good minutes out of those guys, they look

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Speaker 3: good at on lock Kyle of the whole team. So

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Speaker 3: that was I think that the biggest noteworthy part of

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Speaker 3: what Jay Huff did.

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Speaker 1: And by the way, there have been some transactions to

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Speaker 1: report involving the Pacers within the last hour or so. Correct, Tony, Yes.

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Speaker 3: It's been the whole morning.

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Speaker 1: How fun.

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Speaker 3: Yes, So, Eric Neismith mists his third game since his

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Speaker 3: injury last night, which means now they're eligible for a

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Speaker 3: hardship again, so that the plan right now is for

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Speaker 3: them to sign Garrison Matthews. He's a wing who's played

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Speaker 3: for the Hawks most recently, the Wizards and the Rockets.

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Speaker 3: I think.

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Speaker 4: Good shooter, great shooter.

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Speaker 3: He just gets him up. He takes a lot of threes.

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Speaker 3: As percentage for his career is like thirty eight thirty

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Speaker 3: nine ish. They need shot making badly. We'll see how

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Speaker 3: much he actually figures to play. But any depth on

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Speaker 3: the wing with the fur v out ne Smith out

565
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Speaker 3: topping out among others, is valuable for this team right now.

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Speaker 3: Makes good sense there. And then before that in the morning,

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Speaker 3: we learned that you know, they have this hardship deal.

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Speaker 3: That's what Jeremiah Robinson role has been on. But he

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Speaker 3: can't sign another ten day. You can only sign two

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Speaker 3: ten days with a team in a season. So if

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Speaker 3: they wanted to keep him, which they should have, right.

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Speaker 3: I mean, everybody who's watched him understands exactly why the

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Speaker 3: Pacers like him. He guards a little bit, he's got size,

574
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Speaker 3: he moves well, and he's been awesome on the glass.

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Speaker 3: Him and Bed Matheren are their best two rebounding non centers.

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Speaker 3: He he's averaged over six a game. He had fifteen

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Speaker 3: in one game. Like that's been very valuable. Ill yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 3: they keep He's playing sixteen to twenty minutes every game

579
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Speaker 3: right now, and like, even if Nei Smith comes back,

580
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Speaker 3: you can foresee him being their tenth guy and he's

581
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Speaker 3: only twenty five. Like that, that's the kind of age

582
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Speaker 3: player that if they're any good, this year's Tasers should win.

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Speaker 3: Is on right. And so because they couldn't sign him

584
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Speaker 3: to that hardship that they're presumably giving to Garrison Matthews,

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Speaker 3: they had to find another way to keep him. So

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Speaker 3: the play in there is to wave Monte Moris, who

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00:32:24,720 --> 00:32:26,920
Speaker 3: they've had for two weeks. I'm over explaining all this,

588
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Speaker 3: but you know when they signed him, McConnell and themhard

589
00:32:29,560 --> 00:32:32,560
Speaker 3: were injured. They needed a point guard. He played fifteen

590
00:32:32,600 --> 00:32:35,120
Speaker 3: minutes his first game twenty minutes a second game. Then

591
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Speaker 3: McConnell came back and his minutes have gone away that

592
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Speaker 3: he's only playing garbage time. Last night, the game you

593
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Speaker 3: were at for the first time, he didn't play at all,

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Speaker 3: So his role is way less needed than it was

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Speaker 3: where they've signed him. Jeremia Robinson Herlos needed way more

596
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Speaker 3: than when they additionally signed him, So that makes good.

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Speaker 3: This all makes good sense for their current needs and injuries.

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Speaker 3: It's just crazy how many times they've had to make

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Speaker 3: a transaction with instill the first month of their season,

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Speaker 3: given how hurt they been. But this all makes good

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Speaker 3: sense to me. Their team is at least a team.

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Speaker 3: They had a real rotation last night that like made

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Speaker 3: good sense. Forty eight minutes over.

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Speaker 1: Explain is my middle name? You know that? Right?

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Speaker 3: I never know what like what detailed people do want?

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Speaker 3: Do they just want hear the names they're signing? Do

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Speaker 3: they want the why what am I doing? But I

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Speaker 3: if you explain it, I think people least like, oh okay,

609
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Speaker 3: they're not just trying to guess who's good and who's not,

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Speaker 3: like they actually there's always good reasons.

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Speaker 1: Well it's so funny. Rule, it's so funny Tony, because

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Speaker 1: one thing that we'll never know in sport, you know,

613
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Speaker 1: there are guys that, like I look back to the

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Speaker 1: post brawl era or the transitioning from one coach to

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Speaker 1: the next era. You know that the the Pacers are

616
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Speaker 1: a unique franchise because they had this this level of

617
00:33:49,800 --> 00:33:54,840
Speaker 1: consistency in the Reggie Davis brothers Rick Smith's era and

618
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Speaker 1: they pretty seamlessly transitioned that by mixing in young talent

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Speaker 1: with Al Harrington and Bender and then our test and

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Speaker 1: kind of shifting it with Reggie Miller being the transitional

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Speaker 1: piece right from one era of player into the next.

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Speaker 1: And so we were unaccustomed to with the exception of

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Speaker 1: the brawl years, ten day contracts and you know, exemption

624
00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:25,799
Speaker 1: rules and guys that you look at and you go, wow,

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Speaker 1: I really like this piece, and then you look back

626
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Speaker 1: later and you go, yeah, I mean he was only

627
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Speaker 1: there because they had to have a body on the roster.

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Speaker 1: So figuring out which the reason I think it's the

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Speaker 1: explanation is necessary is because at times you do wonder, Okay,

630
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Speaker 1: is this a guy they're signing because they believe in

631
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Speaker 1: what he can do and they're willing to kick the

632
00:34:42,840 --> 00:34:45,120
Speaker 1: tires on it, or is this a guy they're signing

633
00:34:45,160 --> 00:34:47,080
Speaker 1: because they need a guy, you know what I mean?

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Speaker 1: There is a difference, and.

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Speaker 4: We see them specifically.

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Speaker 3: Yes, they've been so hurt this year that it's like

637
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Speaker 3: you have a Polls grat you can come to Dallas tonight. Great,

638
00:34:55,920 --> 00:34:58,360
Speaker 3: You're like, it's not good. That's a level of injury

639
00:34:58,400 --> 00:35:01,279
Speaker 3: that they've needed, a level injury replacement. Excuse me that

640
00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:03,840
Speaker 3: they needed to like field a team that makes sense,

641
00:35:03,880 --> 00:35:09,279
Speaker 3: and like the Minnesota game, they started two centers right, like,

642
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Speaker 3: and it was a two centers who didn't start like

643
00:35:11,680 --> 00:35:13,719
Speaker 3: the game before and Memphis that guy got cut the

644
00:35:13,719 --> 00:35:16,960
Speaker 3: next game, like it's just been chasing a circle of

645
00:35:17,640 --> 00:35:19,920
Speaker 3: who's heard at this spot, who's heard at this spot,

646
00:35:20,040 --> 00:35:22,400
Speaker 3: and all this stuff, And you know, you got to

647
00:35:22,440 --> 00:35:24,120
Speaker 3: feel the team that makes sense. They're doing their best

648
00:35:24,160 --> 00:35:26,960
Speaker 3: because even if it's not necessarily for like a try

649
00:35:26,960 --> 00:35:28,719
Speaker 3: to win reason, and they are trying to win, you

650
00:35:28,760 --> 00:35:30,839
Speaker 3: still need players playing in a role that makes sense

651
00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:34,560
Speaker 3: to like look good. If if you're playing a wing

652
00:35:34,600 --> 00:35:38,319
Speaker 3: at point guard or a huge guy at the four, sure,

653
00:35:38,360 --> 00:35:40,799
Speaker 3: maybe it scraped you by for five minutes successfully, but

654
00:35:41,239 --> 00:35:43,319
Speaker 3: the rest of the players around that guy look worse.

655
00:35:43,400 --> 00:35:46,239
Speaker 3: They're making their mistakes or they just it doesn't you know.

656
00:35:46,320 --> 00:35:48,279
Speaker 3: They just that's why they're trying to make a team

657
00:35:48,280 --> 00:35:50,960
Speaker 3: that makes sense, even with their injuries, even if it's

658
00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:53,520
Speaker 3: guys that might be around beyond this season. So it's

659
00:35:53,520 --> 00:35:55,839
Speaker 3: all made good sense to me. Every time. It's just like,

660
00:35:56,120 --> 00:35:58,080
Speaker 3: I mean, every time I touch my computer this month,

661
00:35:58,120 --> 00:36:00,200
Speaker 3: it's like, okay, right now about an injury or into

662
00:36:00,200 --> 00:36:01,200
Speaker 3: action because of injury.

663
00:36:01,200 --> 00:36:02,560
Speaker 4: But they have to do it. They just have to.

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Speaker 1: Okay. Lastly, Tony, I came back. Today's is today Thursday? Eddie, Yes,

665
00:36:09,040 --> 00:36:12,839
Speaker 1: Today's Thursday. So late on Tuesday night I come back.

666
00:36:12,840 --> 00:36:17,880
Speaker 1: I'm walking through the airport and I look around and

667
00:36:17,880 --> 00:36:19,560
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh wait a minute, and I figured it out,

668
00:36:19,640 --> 00:36:22,600
Speaker 1: and the Noblesville Boom is walking through the airport. Clearly

669
00:36:22,640 --> 00:36:26,080
Speaker 1: they had flown commercially back from I believe Iowa. Now,

670
00:36:26,680 --> 00:36:29,720
Speaker 1: they're not exactly racking up wins, don't get me wrong. However,

671
00:36:30,800 --> 00:36:32,680
Speaker 1: they've got two guys on the roster to me that

672
00:36:32,680 --> 00:36:37,000
Speaker 1: are very intriguing, and one of them is R. J.

673
00:36:37,160 --> 00:36:39,600
Speaker 1: Felton and the other is Kyle Guy. And Kyle Guy

674
00:36:39,640 --> 00:36:41,319
Speaker 1: has played well for them. You and I talked about

675
00:36:41,320 --> 00:36:43,160
Speaker 1: this when I saw you at the Noblesville Boom game.

676
00:36:43,560 --> 00:36:45,719
Speaker 1: But I think he's maintained it to the point where

677
00:36:45,719 --> 00:36:48,680
Speaker 1: he's he's got to bounce about him. The former Laurence

678
00:36:48,680 --> 00:36:50,800
Speaker 1: Central and Virginia star, who of course played the NBA,

679
00:36:50,840 --> 00:36:55,359
Speaker 1: played for Sacramento notably in most is he somebody that

680
00:36:56,320 --> 00:36:59,520
Speaker 1: eventually could get opportunity with the Pacers?

681
00:37:00,960 --> 00:37:01,160
Speaker 5: Man?

682
00:37:01,200 --> 00:37:04,440
Speaker 3: I mean every year they've done almost every year, I guess.

683
00:37:04,480 --> 00:37:07,759
Speaker 3: I think every season since this installment of the two

684
00:37:07,760 --> 00:37:10,719
Speaker 3: way contract, the Pacers have called up somebody. I think

685
00:37:10,760 --> 00:37:12,319
Speaker 3: I don't want to list every single one year because

686
00:37:12,320 --> 00:37:14,680
Speaker 3: I'd be a giant waste to everybody's time. But they

687
00:37:14,760 --> 00:37:19,680
Speaker 3: have either you know, provided that carrot Or used the

688
00:37:19,680 --> 00:37:22,279
Speaker 3: G League as a legitimate resource for team building, like

689
00:37:22,400 --> 00:37:24,960
Speaker 3: every year, whether that is what you said, Like last

690
00:37:25,040 --> 00:37:28,360
Speaker 3: year was Julia Localfor got that ten day and you know,

691
00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:30,920
Speaker 3: right after the All Star break like he was playing

692
00:37:30,920 --> 00:37:33,280
Speaker 3: good center minutes for them. And this kind of season

693
00:37:33,360 --> 00:37:36,000
Speaker 3: where things are really sideways, is a good chance to

694
00:37:36,040 --> 00:37:38,959
Speaker 3: look at someone who's in that situation, and Kyle Guy

695
00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:41,719
Speaker 3: has been I think their second leading scored Jalen's loss

696
00:37:41,719 --> 00:37:43,600
Speaker 3: and scoring like a billion points a game right now

697
00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:45,680
Speaker 3: for the Boom, even though they can't win a game.

698
00:37:45,800 --> 00:37:47,680
Speaker 3: So yeah, certainly if he keeps playing well, I don't

699
00:37:47,680 --> 00:37:51,759
Speaker 3: think he's too way eligible, which hurts these pursuits of

700
00:37:52,040 --> 00:37:54,640
Speaker 3: you know, getting a guy a call up from through

701
00:37:54,719 --> 00:37:57,319
Speaker 3: j league to the NBA. But yeah, he's playing really well,

702
00:37:57,320 --> 00:38:00,439
Speaker 3: over twenty two points a game. And if you saw

703
00:38:00,440 --> 00:38:02,920
Speaker 3: this when you got back, he got invited to the

704
00:38:03,239 --> 00:38:06,759
Speaker 3: Musa's World Cup qualifying roster for so they do like

705
00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:09,239
Speaker 3: a different team every month for like these sessions of

706
00:38:09,280 --> 00:38:12,080
Speaker 3: when the qualifying games are. So that's a huge ass

707
00:38:12,120 --> 00:38:14,239
Speaker 3: for the Boom, right they can't win a game and

708
00:38:14,239 --> 00:38:16,520
Speaker 3: they're one of their best players has gone for now

709
00:38:16,560 --> 00:38:19,080
Speaker 3: I think three games in a week of practices and such.

710
00:38:19,120 --> 00:38:21,759
Speaker 3: But he's playing that well that you got that kind

711
00:38:21,760 --> 00:38:25,000
Speaker 3: of opportunity, So yeah, certainly worth keeping an eye on then, Yeah,

712
00:38:25,080 --> 00:38:27,279
Speaker 3: URJ Felton, I don't. I don't think he's played yet.

713
00:38:27,280 --> 00:38:29,759
Speaker 3: I think he's injured so far like they've been.

714
00:38:29,920 --> 00:38:32,960
Speaker 4: They too have been that game.

715
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Speaker 1: In their opener, their home opener, for certain.

716
00:38:35,080 --> 00:38:36,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't, I don't. I don't think he's played

717
00:38:36,760 --> 00:38:39,520
Speaker 3: in every game for them, they've been they've been like

718
00:38:39,600 --> 00:38:41,919
Speaker 3: signing guys so they can feel the roster level of BT.

719
00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:44,680
Speaker 3: So it's been it's been a challenge for them, and

720
00:38:44,680 --> 00:38:46,640
Speaker 3: they already had to sign somebody because they were losing

721
00:38:46,719 --> 00:38:50,200
Speaker 3: Kyle Guy, but you know, presumably he will be in

722
00:38:50,239 --> 00:38:53,160
Speaker 3: the mix for that could get a call up. Situation

723
00:38:53,239 --> 00:38:55,680
Speaker 3: that the Facers always find themselves in. And that's why

724
00:38:55,719 --> 00:38:57,239
Speaker 3: watching the Boom was fun. You never know which one

725
00:38:57,239 --> 00:38:59,640
Speaker 3: of these guys one day is going to be Pacers

726
00:38:59,680 --> 00:39:02,640
Speaker 3: are helped. They just had a I think the I

727
00:39:02,640 --> 00:39:05,040
Speaker 3: don't know if CBA is the right word, but the

728
00:39:05,080 --> 00:39:07,840
Speaker 3: G League Players Association finally agreed to like a real

729
00:39:08,400 --> 00:39:12,160
Speaker 3: term of you know, labor laws with the G League,

730
00:39:12,200 --> 00:39:14,719
Speaker 3: and so I think the minimum is forty five to

731
00:39:14,760 --> 00:39:16,759
Speaker 3: fifty thousand, and if you're a two A guy, you're

732
00:39:16,800 --> 00:39:20,000
Speaker 3: making like five hundred something, and usually it's somewhere in

733
00:39:20,040 --> 00:39:21,880
Speaker 3: between where it's a little more than forty five. But

734
00:39:21,880 --> 00:39:24,080
Speaker 3: you're also getting like a bonus from your NBA team,

735
00:39:24,160 --> 00:39:26,280
Speaker 3: and there's travel for DMS and all that kind of stuff.

736
00:39:26,320 --> 00:39:28,239
Speaker 3: So yeah, it's getting more and more every year.

737
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Speaker 1: By the way, this weekend, two opportunities to see the

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Speaker 1: Boom up at the arena Innovation Mile. And the fun

739
00:39:35,239 --> 00:39:38,200
Speaker 1: thing about that is the Innovation Mile. You get to

740
00:39:38,239 --> 00:39:39,839
Speaker 1: see all of it. Because it takes twenty five minutes

741
00:39:39,880 --> 00:39:42,640
Speaker 1: to drive that mile to get into the arena, as

742
00:39:42,680 --> 00:39:43,480
Speaker 1: Tony knows.

743
00:39:43,280 --> 00:39:45,960
Speaker 3: Park at the hotel across the highway and walk and

744
00:39:45,960 --> 00:39:47,160
Speaker 3: you'll make it a little faster.

745
00:39:47,520 --> 00:39:50,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's that's the only thing. Because the arena is awesome.

746
00:39:50,120 --> 00:39:52,520
Speaker 1: The seats, it's very affordable. It's a great chance to

747
00:39:52,520 --> 00:39:54,880
Speaker 1: come out and watch Saturday and Sunday. Sunday is a

748
00:39:54,960 --> 00:39:58,319
Speaker 1: three o'clock game. Saturday night seven o'clock, the Boom are

749
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Speaker 1: in action at home. Do you appreciate the time as always.

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Speaker 3: You got it, Thanks for having me.

751
00:40:03,320 --> 00:40:03,839
Speaker 4: Welcome back.

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Speaker 1: Thank you Tony East joining us on the program We

753
00:40:07,000 --> 00:40:09,400
Speaker 1: come back. Something caught my ear where I thought to myself,

754
00:40:09,440 --> 00:40:11,520
Speaker 1: wait a minute, there's a quarterback in the state of

755
00:40:11,520 --> 00:40:14,000
Speaker 1: Indiana that reminds me of a quarterback that played in Indianapolis.

756
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Speaker 1: And I mean that in a good way. I'll explain.

757
00:40:19,040 --> 00:40:22,080
Speaker 1: Sometimes with athletes, you see something and I do it

758
00:40:22,120 --> 00:40:27,400
Speaker 1: a lot. This is maybe what I always found interesting

759
00:40:27,680 --> 00:40:31,080
Speaker 1: is when you see somebody and you say, boy, that

760
00:40:31,120 --> 00:40:34,160
Speaker 1: guy reminds me of so and so, or Hey, anybody

761
00:40:34,160 --> 00:40:36,120
Speaker 1: ever tell you look like such and such? And I

762
00:40:36,160 --> 00:40:38,279
Speaker 1: read some articles somewhere that said that if you have

763
00:40:38,760 --> 00:40:42,840
Speaker 1: the propensity, if that's the right word to do, that

764
00:40:42,960 --> 00:40:44,359
Speaker 1: kind of a thing, it means you need to get

765
00:40:44,360 --> 00:40:46,279
Speaker 1: out more. And I thought, or maybe it means that

766
00:40:46,320 --> 00:40:47,839
Speaker 1: you're out all the time and you see so many

767
00:40:47,880 --> 00:40:50,759
Speaker 1: people that eventually you start seeing people that like look

768
00:40:50,880 --> 00:40:54,840
Speaker 1: like others. Right, but in sport a lot of times,

769
00:40:55,360 --> 00:40:57,400
Speaker 1: and maybe this just means that you've watched a lot

770
00:40:57,440 --> 00:41:00,640
Speaker 1: of sports. You see an athlete and you yourself, that

771
00:41:00,680 --> 00:41:04,759
Speaker 1: reminds me of somebody. It reminds me of somebody, or

772
00:41:04,840 --> 00:41:07,239
Speaker 1: you hear something about them and you think, this reminds

773
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Speaker 1: me of somebody. Fernando Mendoza is having a brilliant season

774
00:41:13,040 --> 00:41:15,279
Speaker 1: for Indiana. I think at this point he should be

775
00:41:15,280 --> 00:41:17,319
Speaker 1: the front runner for the Heisman. I mean that is

776
00:41:17,360 --> 00:41:20,520
Speaker 1: no disrespect for whatever reason, Ohio State fans, who have

777
00:41:20,640 --> 00:41:22,760
Speaker 1: no reason to be the most insecure group of fans

778
00:41:22,840 --> 00:41:26,200
Speaker 1: in college athletics, but they are for whatever reason, they

779
00:41:26,200 --> 00:41:28,520
Speaker 1: take it like that when you say that Mendoza should

780
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Speaker 1: be the Heisman front runner as some sort of attack

781
00:41:30,600 --> 00:41:34,320
Speaker 1: on their quarterback. You know, if you look at Indiana

782
00:41:34,920 --> 00:41:38,960
Speaker 1: in the year that Mendoza's having and the plays that

783
00:41:39,000 --> 00:41:41,560
Speaker 1: he's made, and yes, there are times where he has

784
00:41:41,640 --> 00:41:43,880
Speaker 1: to take two steps forward because he had just previously

785
00:41:43,880 --> 00:41:47,000
Speaker 1: taken a step back. I get it. But he has

786
00:41:47,040 --> 00:41:51,120
Speaker 1: answered the bell seemingly every time. And Indiana is unblemished.

787
00:41:51,800 --> 00:41:54,279
Speaker 1: So too is Ohio State. I get it. They're in

788
00:41:54,320 --> 00:41:56,319
Speaker 1: the same conference, so there's going to be comparison. I

789
00:41:56,360 --> 00:41:58,279
Speaker 1: get it. They're the two front runners right now for

790
00:41:58,280 --> 00:42:01,759
Speaker 1: the Heisman. I get it. The difference being this, if

791
00:42:01,760 --> 00:42:05,040
Speaker 1: you were to extend the Heisman balloting or race into

792
00:42:05,080 --> 00:42:08,320
Speaker 1: say a top five or top ten, then you start

793
00:42:08,320 --> 00:42:10,680
Speaker 1: getting into the names of the people that Julian's saying

794
00:42:10,840 --> 00:42:14,440
Speaker 1: of Ohio State is throwing the ball to. He's throwing

795
00:42:14,480 --> 00:42:18,040
Speaker 1: the football to two guys, maybe even one of them's hurt.

796
00:42:18,080 --> 00:42:21,280
Speaker 1: But they have multiple receivers and weapons at Ohio State

797
00:42:21,800 --> 00:42:23,719
Speaker 1: that are going to play on Sundays and could play

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00:42:23,719 --> 00:42:26,319
Speaker 1: on Sundays this year if they will, if they had

799
00:42:26,400 --> 00:42:28,120
Speaker 1: chosen to do so, or if it was legal to

800
00:42:28,160 --> 00:42:31,560
Speaker 1: do so. Mendoza had no disrespect in any way, shape

801
00:42:31,640 --> 00:42:35,160
Speaker 1: or form to Elijah surrat who's been fabulous and is

802
00:42:35,200 --> 00:42:38,560
Speaker 1: going to work his waye play his way into the NFL. Obviously,

803
00:42:38,600 --> 00:42:40,920
Speaker 1: Cooper Junior has made the catch of the year, the

804
00:42:40,960 --> 00:42:44,560
Speaker 1: catch of the lifetime for Indiana against Penn State. But

805
00:42:44,640 --> 00:42:48,960
Speaker 1: if you take saying out of Eddie, I want you

806
00:42:49,000 --> 00:42:52,040
Speaker 1: to name for me a Power five football school that

807
00:42:52,160 --> 00:42:56,279
Speaker 1: is just meh, one of them that you don't even

808
00:42:56,280 --> 00:42:58,200
Speaker 1: know what they're doing this year, but you're like, yeah,

809
00:42:58,200 --> 00:43:00,360
Speaker 1: maybe they'll end up in the Little Caesars Bowl. I

810
00:43:00,360 --> 00:43:02,600
Speaker 1: don't know, but like they're fine. But I don't follow

811
00:43:02,680 --> 00:43:05,000
Speaker 1: him much, but they seem to be okay. Kansas State,

812
00:43:05,120 --> 00:43:08,160
Speaker 1: Kansas State, thank you. If you take Kansas State's quarterback,

813
00:43:08,200 --> 00:43:10,719
Speaker 1: pluck him out of Manhattan, Kansas, and you put him

814
00:43:10,719 --> 00:43:15,799
Speaker 1: on the Indiana roster right now, Indiana's probably seven and three,

815
00:43:16,120 --> 00:43:19,680
Speaker 1: eight and three whatever. You take Kansas State's quarterback, pluck

816
00:43:19,719 --> 00:43:20,840
Speaker 1: him out. As a matter of fact, I think they

817
00:43:20,880 --> 00:43:23,120
Speaker 1: did exactly that a year ago. Plug him into Ohio State.

818
00:43:23,160 --> 00:43:27,640
Speaker 1: Ohio State, guess what, still unbeaten. That's the difference. But

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00:43:28,120 --> 00:43:33,560
Speaker 1: Mendoza joined a podcast called The Triple Option. This features

820
00:43:33,840 --> 00:43:36,319
Speaker 1: Urban Meyer is one of them, right, Rob Stone is

821
00:43:36,320 --> 00:43:40,399
Speaker 1: another and Marquee three guys from Big Noon Kickoff yet

822
00:43:40,400 --> 00:43:43,520
Speaker 1: and he was talking about the play he made at

823
00:43:43,520 --> 00:43:45,000
Speaker 1: Penn State and listened to what he said.

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Speaker 6: It played a kind of like their two joker structure

825
00:43:47,560 --> 00:43:50,960
Speaker 6: where it's it's a little similar, and they have this

826
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Speaker 6: middle safety who is really reading off the quarterback size

827
00:43:54,800 --> 00:43:57,440
Speaker 6: and really playing off that speed. And so we had

828
00:43:57,440 --> 00:43:59,080
Speaker 6: speed of the field there. We had number three, Omar

829
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Speaker 6: Cooper Junior, who may fantastic catch. And so when I caught.

830
00:44:02,760 --> 00:44:04,200
Speaker 6: When I caught the ball, I looked over there and

831
00:44:04,200 --> 00:44:06,240
Speaker 6: I saw his hips turn, his hips and eyes turned

832
00:44:06,480 --> 00:44:08,359
Speaker 6: to that point. All I knew I needed to just

833
00:44:08,640 --> 00:44:12,200
Speaker 6: beat that boundary croll defender and beat that boundary safety.

834
00:44:12,239 --> 00:44:13,879
Speaker 6: And once I saw a safety go over the tops

835
00:44:13,920 --> 00:44:16,799
Speaker 6: the outside receiver defending the whole shot, I just knew

836
00:44:16,800 --> 00:44:18,880
Speaker 6: that I needed to put some arc and layer on

837
00:44:18,920 --> 00:44:21,279
Speaker 6: it over the hook defense after that that kind of

838
00:44:21,280 --> 00:44:24,360
Speaker 6: like the hook curl defender in order to make that

839
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Speaker 6: compleation because I knew the other guy, the joker, had

840
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Speaker 6: his hips to the speed.

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Speaker 7: Right now, hold on, look at you, look at I

842
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Speaker 7: heard this is what I'm saying.

843
00:44:35,320 --> 00:44:39,160
Speaker 1: Look at this is as intense and happening been in years.

844
00:44:40,360 --> 00:44:46,640
Speaker 1: That reminds me of basically two guys. The first is

845
00:44:47,040 --> 00:44:53,640
Speaker 1: there was nobody in like postgame situations, press conference, locker

846
00:44:53,719 --> 00:44:58,480
Speaker 1: room availability after games that could break in and Nuance

847
00:44:58,640 --> 00:45:03,439
Speaker 1: more stuff in a language that was totally out there

848
00:45:03,520 --> 00:45:07,960
Speaker 1: than Peyton Manning. Peyton Manning's well, you know, there's they

849
00:45:08,000 --> 00:45:09,839
Speaker 1: had a double corner, you know, with safety on top,

850
00:45:09,920 --> 00:45:12,400
Speaker 1: you know, and you're like, what in the world. And

851
00:45:12,880 --> 00:45:16,319
Speaker 1: but the other one too, that that more reminds me of.

852
00:45:19,360 --> 00:45:21,960
Speaker 1: There's one other quarterback that more reminds me of and

853
00:45:22,040 --> 00:45:27,160
Speaker 1: I'm almost speaking socially more than Nuance of game breakdown,

854
00:45:29,160 --> 00:45:32,279
Speaker 1: and he has a little something that Indiana might need

855
00:45:32,320 --> 00:45:36,399
Speaker 1: against Ohio State. I'll tell you next next and then

856
00:45:36,440 --> 00:45:38,560
Speaker 1: we'll go to Kansas City in an hour Matt Taylor

857
00:45:38,560 --> 00:45:43,160
Speaker 1: at two thirty. Okay, I'm gonna tell you about the quarterback.

858
00:45:43,400 --> 00:45:46,480
Speaker 1: Also that Mendoza reminds me of just a second, but

859
00:45:46,640 --> 00:45:48,920
Speaker 1: I am compelled. I want to do two things here

860
00:45:48,960 --> 00:45:55,440
Speaker 1: real quick. The first is this remind you that Monday, Monday,

861
00:45:55,520 --> 00:45:58,880
Speaker 1: we are on the road. Indian Nite are holding their

862
00:45:58,960 --> 00:46:02,279
Speaker 1: draft party. They're doing it up in Fishers. Yes, Eddie,

863
00:46:02,360 --> 00:46:05,040
Speaker 1: I saw you leaning towards the microphone. Right quite five

864
00:46:05,120 --> 00:46:13,040
Speaker 1: hundred miles correct, Right, that's correct. Yeah. Parks Place Pub

865
00:46:13,040 --> 00:46:15,160
Speaker 1: is where we're gonna be on Monday, and I'm gonna

866
00:46:15,160 --> 00:46:17,080
Speaker 1: be there for the Indian Nite Draft party. You show

867
00:46:17,120 --> 00:46:19,640
Speaker 1: up in Ignite gear, You're gonna get the Ignite picking

868
00:46:19,719 --> 00:46:22,640
Speaker 1: up your lunch, and we're gonna sit there and talk

869
00:46:22,640 --> 00:46:24,479
Speaker 1: about the fact that they've got a couple of draft picks.

870
00:46:24,520 --> 00:46:27,960
Speaker 1: I was so blown away last year with the Indian Night.

871
00:46:28,040 --> 00:46:30,279
Speaker 1: I think I ended up going to They had the

872
00:46:30,280 --> 00:46:32,320
Speaker 1: All Star Game here at the Fishers Event Center, and

873
00:46:32,400 --> 00:46:35,080
Speaker 1: I think we went to maybe four matches and it

874
00:46:35,120 --> 00:46:36,120
Speaker 1: was an awesome environment.

875
00:46:36,160 --> 00:46:38,120
Speaker 2: I mean, now, how many times are they paying to

876
00:46:38,160 --> 00:46:42,200
Speaker 2: you like Jake Querry with the celebrity you know? They

877
00:46:42,200 --> 00:46:45,600
Speaker 2: never did they at one point? You know, except I

878
00:46:45,920 --> 00:46:51,160
Speaker 2: do recall the very first home are those matches? Volleyball

879
00:46:51,200 --> 00:46:53,520
Speaker 2: is a match, right, yes, one of the first matches

880
00:46:53,560 --> 00:46:56,840
Speaker 2: that it was airing on I believe CBS and r.

881
00:46:58,640 --> 00:46:59,200
Speaker 1: RTV six.

882
00:46:59,239 --> 00:47:01,480
Speaker 2: You and Shannon are right there behind you know whom

883
00:47:01,520 --> 00:47:03,200
Speaker 2: I was serving and I think it was Jack Kaiser

884
00:47:03,200 --> 00:47:04,920
Speaker 2: who was on the call. He goes, we got a

885
00:47:04,960 --> 00:47:07,520
Speaker 2: couple of local celebrities. Here, there's Jake Querry from ninety

886
00:47:07,520 --> 00:47:09,320
Speaker 2: three five when one was sealve.

887
00:47:08,960 --> 00:47:11,279
Speaker 1: The fan in the back. Yes, well that's cool. Did

888
00:47:11,280 --> 00:47:14,080
Speaker 1: he did he recognize that Shannon's a local celebrity? I

889
00:47:14,080 --> 00:47:17,040
Speaker 1: don't think he realized who Shannon was. Unfortunate for Shannon,

890
00:47:17,719 --> 00:47:21,960
Speaker 1: noted one of the Shannon Balls sitting out the front row, right. Yeah. Yeah.

891
00:47:22,040 --> 00:47:23,759
Speaker 2: They also put your name in the same sentence as

892
00:47:23,760 --> 00:47:28,000
Speaker 2: like Kenny Moore and Quitty pay Oh yeah really yeah, Blue.

893
00:47:28,120 --> 00:47:32,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, Well that's fun. I'm very I'm very flattered by that.

894
00:47:33,040 --> 00:47:35,799
Speaker 2: You know, it's it's a season of holidays, Jake. And

895
00:47:35,840 --> 00:47:37,839
Speaker 2: as they say with the Grench next month, your head

896
00:47:37,960 --> 00:47:39,600
Speaker 2: just grew three sizes with that compliment.

897
00:47:39,719 --> 00:47:42,359
Speaker 1: Thank you. Okay, season of holidays is correct, which takes

898
00:47:42,360 --> 00:47:44,920
Speaker 1: me to the next thing, and that is Thursday, Drumstick

899
00:47:45,000 --> 00:47:48,160
Speaker 1: Dash week from today, and I will by the end

900
00:47:48,200 --> 00:47:49,799
Speaker 1: of the show today have a link up where you

901
00:47:49,800 --> 00:47:52,080
Speaker 1: can make a donation if you would like to the

902
00:47:52,120 --> 00:47:54,799
Speaker 1: Wheeler Mission, because we are doing all of this as

903
00:47:55,200 --> 00:47:58,400
Speaker 1: a fundraiser for the Wheeler Mission. And then after Thanksgiving

904
00:47:58,440 --> 00:48:00,440
Speaker 1: I will start really heavily hitting about the hope for

905
00:48:00,480 --> 00:48:04,400
Speaker 1: the holidays and helping out with the children at Firefly

906
00:48:04,520 --> 00:48:09,759
Speaker 1: and the families in need during the holidays themselves. But

907
00:48:09,880 --> 00:48:13,040
Speaker 1: that song reminds me of the I Will Walk five

908
00:48:13,120 --> 00:48:15,920
Speaker 1: hundred miles. Reminds me of back when I was when

909
00:48:15,960 --> 00:48:18,440
Speaker 1: that song was out and was so popular, and I

910
00:48:18,440 --> 00:48:20,080
Speaker 1: spent a summer with a bunch of guys that I'd

911
00:48:20,120 --> 00:48:23,600
Speaker 1: met here in Indy that were living here abroad from Ireland,

912
00:48:23,960 --> 00:48:26,759
Speaker 1: and it was it was so much fun, just the

913
00:48:26,800 --> 00:48:29,400
Speaker 1: cultural differences and having fun with them and everything else.

914
00:48:29,880 --> 00:48:35,040
Speaker 1: And I've always enjoyed, like just that, the interaction that

915
00:48:35,120 --> 00:48:37,520
Speaker 1: takes place with people that you know, you just pick

916
00:48:37,560 --> 00:48:41,760
Speaker 1: up little things. And every time I hear that song,

917
00:48:42,160 --> 00:48:44,239
Speaker 1: I think about that summer. And I didn't know this, Eddie,

918
00:48:44,280 --> 00:48:46,799
Speaker 1: But did you know that in Ireland? I've mentioned this

919
00:48:46,840 --> 00:48:49,279
Speaker 1: before and I don't know that this really is a

920
00:48:49,280 --> 00:48:51,319
Speaker 1: customary thing, but they claim it was. Did you know that?

921
00:48:51,560 --> 00:48:53,799
Speaker 1: So we went Peggy Swaringeon's parents were out of town

922
00:48:53,800 --> 00:48:55,200
Speaker 1: and so we went to our house for a party.

923
00:48:55,200 --> 00:48:56,600
Speaker 1: We were all home. It was the summer. It was

924
00:48:56,760 --> 00:49:00,520
Speaker 1: college age, and one of the guys from Ireland that

925
00:49:00,560 --> 00:49:03,799
Speaker 1: I brought over to her house for this party came

926
00:49:03,880 --> 00:49:06,279
Speaker 1: up to me and goes, yeah, we went to the

927
00:49:06,360 --> 00:49:09,279
Speaker 1: to the market, the grocery store and bought a huge

928
00:49:09,320 --> 00:49:11,640
Speaker 1: ham and we just stuffed it down their toilet. And

929
00:49:11,680 --> 00:49:13,560
Speaker 1: I'm like, wait, excuse me. He's like, well, that's what

930
00:49:13,560 --> 00:49:15,640
Speaker 1: you do in Ireland. That's a that's a gesture when

931
00:49:15,640 --> 00:49:17,759
Speaker 1: you go to a party, you play a prank. And

932
00:49:17,840 --> 00:49:21,239
Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, I don't think that translates here, so

933
00:49:21,600 --> 00:49:24,280
Speaker 1: we probably should leave. They teach you your Irish accident.

934
00:49:25,200 --> 00:49:26,759
Speaker 1: You know. They were thrilled by that. That's how we

935
00:49:26,760 --> 00:49:30,720
Speaker 1: became friends. Hat we got the ham of a toilet.

936
00:49:30,760 --> 00:49:33,439
Speaker 1: They probably need to leave now. Yeah. And I later

937
00:49:33,560 --> 00:49:35,520
Speaker 1: told Peggy swarine In about it and she got a

938
00:49:35,600 --> 00:49:37,640
Speaker 1: laugh out of it. So all, all's well, that ends well.

939
00:49:38,000 --> 00:49:41,719
Speaker 1: But I would like to do at this point we

940
00:49:41,760 --> 00:49:44,240
Speaker 1: do every once in while we do this Interactive Thursday.

941
00:49:44,239 --> 00:49:46,160
Speaker 1: We haven't done an Interactive Thursday in a while. Two

942
00:49:46,200 --> 00:49:48,759
Speaker 1: three nine ten seventy is the telephone number if there's

943
00:49:48,800 --> 00:49:52,560
Speaker 1: something that we mentioned on the show that that caught

944
00:49:52,600 --> 00:49:54,600
Speaker 1: your ear, something that you've been chopping at the bit

945
00:49:54,719 --> 00:49:57,440
Speaker 1: to share, something that you have a question about. Two

946
00:49:57,480 --> 00:49:59,640
Speaker 1: three nine ten seventy is the telephone number on this

947
00:49:59,719 --> 00:50:01,919
Speaker 1: inter Active Thursday. I think we did this two weeks

948
00:50:01,960 --> 00:50:06,520
Speaker 1: ago Interactive Thursday show. We're doing it today. So if

949
00:50:06,560 --> 00:50:09,160
Speaker 1: you would like to call in, please feel free to

950
00:50:09,239 --> 00:50:11,440
Speaker 1: do so. We will be happy to include you as

951
00:50:11,520 --> 00:50:13,759
Speaker 1: part of the company here on the program. Now, it

952
00:50:13,840 --> 00:50:15,239
Speaker 1: might even play a little gets to know you're listening.

953
00:50:15,239 --> 00:50:17,920
Speaker 1: I'm looking for female listener thirty one thirty, So we're

954
00:50:17,920 --> 00:50:20,600
Speaker 1: stuck on thirty right, Yeah, okay, stuck on thirty. Now.

955
00:50:20,840 --> 00:50:26,000
Speaker 1: When I hear Mendoza speak, when I hear Mendoza speak

956
00:50:26,080 --> 00:50:29,400
Speaker 1: and talking about IU football, which is becoming and obviously

957
00:50:29,480 --> 00:50:33,240
Speaker 1: IU is getting him out there. This is all by design,

958
00:50:33,320 --> 00:50:35,239
Speaker 1: don't get me wrong. When you start seeing him on

959
00:50:35,360 --> 00:50:38,319
Speaker 1: national programs, and you start seeing him on Fox and

960
00:50:38,400 --> 00:50:41,279
Speaker 1: doing podcasts and all of those things, this is a

961
00:50:41,320 --> 00:50:45,640
Speaker 1: push for the Heisman. Indiana has a situation right now

962
00:50:45,880 --> 00:50:48,440
Speaker 1: where if you look at the history of Indiana football,

963
00:50:49,520 --> 00:50:53,600
Speaker 1: you know Antoine raandelel got Heisman votes. Anthony Thompson is

964
00:50:53,640 --> 00:50:55,839
Speaker 1: the closest one and should have won it. He lost

965
00:50:55,880 --> 00:50:58,080
Speaker 1: to Andre Ware. As a matter of fact, people forget

966
00:50:58,600 --> 00:51:01,839
Speaker 1: Anthony Thompson's year. He'd kind of fallen out of the

967
00:51:01,880 --> 00:51:04,120
Speaker 1: course of the Heisman race. Then he had three hundred

968
00:51:04,160 --> 00:51:07,160
Speaker 1: and seventy seven yards rushing against Wisconsin, put him right

969
00:51:07,200 --> 00:51:11,840
Speaker 1: back into it. And I always felt like, with Anthony Thompson,

970
00:51:12,280 --> 00:51:15,720
Speaker 1: what and I hate to say cost him the Heisman.

971
00:51:15,760 --> 00:51:18,560
Speaker 1: It's unfair to put that on one player. But in

972
00:51:18,680 --> 00:51:22,080
Speaker 1: the Bucket Game of Anthony Thompson's last year in Indiana,

973
00:51:22,800 --> 00:51:25,600
Speaker 1: Perdue had come down and scored. Indiana needed to get

974
00:51:25,640 --> 00:51:29,200
Speaker 1: to win number six to become Bowl eligible. Purdue had scored,

975
00:51:29,280 --> 00:51:32,880
Speaker 1: they kicked off to Indiana. Bill Mallory puts Anthony Thompson

976
00:51:33,000 --> 00:51:37,160
Speaker 1: in as the kick returner, and he returned it down

977
00:51:37,200 --> 00:51:39,680
Speaker 1: to I believe the eight yard line. I could be

978
00:51:39,719 --> 00:51:42,720
Speaker 1: wrong in where he returned it. It might have been further

979
00:51:42,760 --> 00:51:46,239
Speaker 1: back than that, but it was a phenomenal return. And

980
00:51:46,280 --> 00:51:50,279
Speaker 1: so Anthony Thompson puts himself in position for Indiana to

981
00:51:50,320 --> 00:51:51,760
Speaker 1: kick a field goal to win the game, and Scott

982
00:51:51,800 --> 00:51:54,279
Speaker 1: Monell missed the field goal. I have always felt if

983
00:51:54,280 --> 00:51:58,520
Speaker 1: Indiana wins that game and walks it off and goes

984
00:51:58,560 --> 00:52:01,200
Speaker 1: to a bowl game, Anthony Thompson probably secures the Heisman

985
00:52:01,239 --> 00:52:03,360
Speaker 1: because he put them in that position. But I digress

986
00:52:03,600 --> 00:52:06,000
Speaker 1: when I hear Mendoza in the interviews that he's doing.

987
00:52:07,280 --> 00:52:16,160
Speaker 1: He has this almost naive level of childlike and I

988
00:52:16,160 --> 00:52:21,719
Speaker 1: mean that in a positive way, innocent euphoria about his delivery,

989
00:52:22,120 --> 00:52:27,200
Speaker 1: and a complete naivete as to the intellect he is

990
00:52:27,320 --> 00:52:31,319
Speaker 1: displaying as he's talking and is he's answering questions and

991
00:52:31,360 --> 00:52:34,080
Speaker 1: he's talking about things, and he's getting into the x's

992
00:52:34,160 --> 00:52:37,680
Speaker 1: nose and he's completely nerding out. He's completely nerding out

993
00:52:37,680 --> 00:52:39,799
Speaker 1: with football stuff, and he's doing it with a grin

994
00:52:39,880 --> 00:52:43,520
Speaker 1: on his face under the assumption that everybody understands what

995
00:52:43,640 --> 00:52:48,200
Speaker 1: he's saying, and very few do, very few do. One

996
00:52:48,200 --> 00:52:51,319
Speaker 1: of the things as a sports reporter that to me

997
00:52:52,640 --> 00:52:56,080
Speaker 1: that I've most taken away over the years is even

998
00:52:56,280 --> 00:52:58,120
Speaker 1: players that you look at and you think, well, that

999
00:52:58,160 --> 00:52:59,920
Speaker 1: guy's not a Rhodes scholar, and then you hear the

1000
00:53:00,200 --> 00:53:05,200
Speaker 1: breaking down film or game plan or scouting report or

1001
00:53:05,239 --> 00:53:08,239
Speaker 1: offense or defense schematically, and you go the fact that

1002
00:53:08,280 --> 00:53:10,200
Speaker 1: this guy can process all that is. I don't know

1003
00:53:10,239 --> 00:53:12,640
Speaker 1: how he knows all that. There's no way I could

1004
00:53:12,640 --> 00:53:16,520
Speaker 1: do that. It's like algebra on hardwood or algebra on grass.

1005
00:53:17,080 --> 00:53:22,640
Speaker 1: And Mendoza speaks in that fashion with almost and completely

1006
00:53:22,760 --> 00:53:26,000
Speaker 1: unaware of the intellect that is being displayed. And it

1007
00:53:26,040 --> 00:53:29,480
Speaker 1: reminds me of Andrew Luck. It totally reminds me of

1008
00:53:29,560 --> 00:53:33,560
Speaker 1: Andrew Luck. And Andrew Luck as a quarterback, one of

1009
00:53:33,560 --> 00:53:36,200
Speaker 1: the things that made him so unique and so special

1010
00:53:36,400 --> 00:53:39,480
Speaker 1: was there were times where as the pressure was mounting

1011
00:53:39,680 --> 00:53:43,319
Speaker 1: and things were happening where most players would tense up.

1012
00:53:43,520 --> 00:53:46,440
Speaker 1: He was like naive to it and we just go

1013
00:53:46,480 --> 00:53:49,480
Speaker 1: out and play and make a play. And it feels

1014
00:53:49,520 --> 00:53:52,200
Speaker 1: like Mendoza is in that category. And I think that's

1015
00:53:52,239 --> 00:53:58,360
Speaker 1: going to intrigue people. He may be. He may well

1016
00:53:58,400 --> 00:54:01,239
Speaker 1: be the number one pick in the draft. There was

1017
00:54:01,239 --> 00:54:04,279
Speaker 1: that discussion and possibility going into the year, and at

1018
00:54:04,280 --> 00:54:07,440
Speaker 1: this point it feels like he has not done anything

1019
00:54:07,840 --> 00:54:11,440
Speaker 1: to dispel that notion. Now, he's going to have a

1020
00:54:11,480 --> 00:54:12,960
Speaker 1: lot of games coming up here that's going to make

1021
00:54:13,040 --> 00:54:14,719
Speaker 1: or break him in that regard, because you know, the

1022
00:54:14,719 --> 00:54:16,720
Speaker 1: Ohio State game, in the Big Ten title game, assuming

1023
00:54:16,719 --> 00:54:21,000
Speaker 1: they beat Purdue, and then you know the play whoever

1024
00:54:21,040 --> 00:54:23,320
Speaker 1: they face in the playoff games, He's going to face

1025
00:54:23,480 --> 00:54:26,360
Speaker 1: big time talent and big time expectation. There's going to

1026
00:54:26,400 --> 00:54:28,239
Speaker 1: be a big spotlight on him, and we'll see how

1027
00:54:28,239 --> 00:54:30,239
Speaker 1: it works. Did we happen to have Eddie? Do you

1028
00:54:30,239 --> 00:54:36,239
Speaker 1: have the breaking new sounder? Now? Do you believe that

1029
00:54:36,280 --> 00:54:38,600
Speaker 1: we might have female listener number thirty one? Is that right?

1030
00:54:39,080 --> 00:54:43,520
Speaker 1: That is what the listener on hold says? Uh? And

1031
00:54:43,560 --> 00:54:45,400
Speaker 1: do we have a name for a listener female number?

1032
00:54:45,560 --> 00:54:46,879
Speaker 1: Listen female listener thirty one?

1033
00:54:46,880 --> 00:54:47,640
Speaker 2: That would be Kristin?

1034
00:54:47,840 --> 00:54:48,920
Speaker 1: Hi, Kristin, how are you?

1035
00:54:49,800 --> 00:54:52,279
Speaker 8: I am great, Jake, I'm actually adding to Mary and

1036
00:54:52,360 --> 00:54:53,760
Speaker 8: to see our friend Greg Rakeshaw.

1037
00:54:54,040 --> 00:54:57,800
Speaker 1: Oh nice. Okay, Now now let me ask you, Kristin.

1038
00:54:58,520 --> 00:55:00,960
Speaker 1: You are female listener thirty one? You have never called

1039
00:55:00,960 --> 00:55:01,799
Speaker 1: in the show? Is that right?

1040
00:55:02,880 --> 00:55:03,240
Speaker 3: Uh?

1041
00:55:03,440 --> 00:55:04,920
Speaker 4: Not a querying company?

1042
00:55:05,239 --> 00:55:05,319
Speaker 6: No?

1043
00:55:05,880 --> 00:55:09,920
Speaker 1: Okay? So you have called into different shows that I've

1044
00:55:09,920 --> 00:55:12,279
Speaker 1: been on them, but not that which is And here's

1045
00:55:12,320 --> 00:55:14,960
Speaker 1: the thing, my career at best vagabond right, So I

1046
00:55:14,960 --> 00:55:17,080
Speaker 1: mean I understand that it's probably hard to keep track of.

1047
00:55:17,360 --> 00:55:19,480
Speaker 1: But if you don't mind me asking, Kristin, have you

1048
00:55:19,520 --> 00:55:21,239
Speaker 1: ever noticed we do a little thing every once in a

1049
00:55:21,239 --> 00:55:23,920
Speaker 1: while on this show and kids love it. In particular,

1050
00:55:24,000 --> 00:55:26,000
Speaker 1: we get a lot of good feedback on this called

1051
00:55:26,040 --> 00:55:27,520
Speaker 1: get to know your Listener. Can we do a little

1052
00:55:27,560 --> 00:55:28,560
Speaker 1: get to know your listener with you.

1053
00:55:29,280 --> 00:55:31,600
Speaker 8: Oh sure, I've got about six minutes.

1054
00:55:32,640 --> 00:55:35,040
Speaker 1: Well, that's that's good. You want to you want to

1055
00:55:35,040 --> 00:55:36,160
Speaker 1: stay on for all six.

1056
00:55:37,440 --> 00:55:38,360
Speaker 5: Whatever you need me for.

1057
00:55:38,520 --> 00:55:39,640
Speaker 8: Jake here for the company.

1058
00:55:40,000 --> 00:55:42,080
Speaker 1: Okay, Kristin, what line of work are you in if

1059
00:55:42,080 --> 00:55:42,960
Speaker 1: you don't mind me asking?

1060
00:55:43,800 --> 00:55:47,319
Speaker 8: Well, right now, I'm doing a color analyst for some

1061
00:55:47,440 --> 00:55:52,560
Speaker 8: college soccer and work in some part time gigs, but

1062
00:55:53,000 --> 00:55:55,080
Speaker 8: kind of doing the sports broadcasting thing.

1063
00:55:55,200 --> 00:55:57,880
Speaker 1: Okay, so you know what that's here's the thing. You

1064
00:55:57,920 --> 00:56:01,319
Speaker 1: are the director of freelance broadcasting for Quarrying Company. How's that?

1065
00:56:02,280 --> 00:56:03,080
Speaker 4: Oh beautiful?

1066
00:56:03,080 --> 00:56:04,680
Speaker 8: That's probably the highest title I'll ever have.

1067
00:56:04,840 --> 00:56:07,080
Speaker 1: So, Kristen, were you a college soccer player yourself?

1068
00:56:07,960 --> 00:56:09,800
Speaker 6: I was that? I you?

1069
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Speaker 3: Indy? Well, I U p y when I was there.

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Speaker 1: You know what, both the women's soccer program, men's and

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00:56:17,520 --> 00:56:19,360
Speaker 1: women's soccer program, as a matter of fact, they're just

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00:56:19,360 --> 00:56:21,279
Speaker 1: wrapping up their year. Are they not over at Iu? Indy?

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00:56:22,560 --> 00:56:22,840
Speaker 4: Yep.

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00:56:22,920 --> 00:56:24,240
Speaker 5: The women have been done.

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00:56:24,440 --> 00:56:26,840
Speaker 8: I believe them to be done as well.

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00:56:26,960 --> 00:56:28,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, I want to say in the last week or

1077
00:56:28,760 --> 00:56:30,359
Speaker 1: two is when they finished things up.

1078
00:56:30,400 --> 00:56:34,279
Speaker 8: But kak Reg and I are calling some nai A

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00:56:35,200 --> 00:56:36,640
Speaker 8: national tournament this afternoon.

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00:56:36,800 --> 00:56:38,760
Speaker 1: Okay, And did you play high school soccer.

1081
00:56:39,480 --> 00:56:40,800
Speaker 4: I did. I went to Zionsville.

1082
00:56:41,000 --> 00:56:44,080
Speaker 1: Okay, so this is Kristin of Zionsville. Now, Kristin a

1083
00:56:44,080 --> 00:56:46,520
Speaker 1: few and this is the most important question, and you

1084
00:56:46,560 --> 00:56:48,440
Speaker 1: know it's one that feel free to be candid with us.

1085
00:56:48,800 --> 00:56:50,360
Speaker 1: I'd like to know what you like and don't like

1086
00:56:50,400 --> 00:56:52,400
Speaker 1: about the program.

1087
00:56:52,840 --> 00:56:54,760
Speaker 4: Oh okay, well.

1088
00:56:54,760 --> 00:56:57,359
Speaker 1: I mean as a broadcaster yourself, I need this sort

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00:56:57,400 --> 00:56:58,719
Speaker 1: of critique.

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00:56:59,680 --> 00:57:02,520
Speaker 8: I mean, not his experience as you Drake, but I

1091
00:57:02,560 --> 00:57:05,560
Speaker 8: do love you and Eddie. You got a great combo

1092
00:57:05,680 --> 00:57:06,280
Speaker 8: going there.

1093
00:57:08,520 --> 00:57:10,000
Speaker 4: There's a b think of something.

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00:57:10,040 --> 00:57:12,160
Speaker 1: I don't really hear the butt coming, Eddie. I can

1095
00:57:12,160 --> 00:57:17,200
Speaker 1: hear it, right you. Kristen's hmmm.

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00:57:17,520 --> 00:57:21,160
Speaker 8: You know, I've never been a massive IU fan, so

1097
00:57:21,200 --> 00:57:23,520
Speaker 8: I'm just a little overall the IU football talk.

1098
00:57:23,600 --> 00:57:25,600
Speaker 1: But I understand it, you know, krist And I gotta

1099
00:57:25,640 --> 00:57:27,080
Speaker 1: be honest with you. It's the first two letters of

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00:57:27,120 --> 00:57:28,680
Speaker 1: the school you went to. I mean, even with the

1101
00:57:28,720 --> 00:57:30,720
Speaker 1: name change, it's still the first two right. I mean

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00:57:30,720 --> 00:57:31,680
Speaker 1: you got to get on board.

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00:57:31,720 --> 00:57:32,600
Speaker 8: You technically have it.

1104
00:57:32,680 --> 00:57:35,400
Speaker 1: I you agree, yes, all right, well, Kristen, listen. Uh

1105
00:57:35,720 --> 00:57:37,600
Speaker 1: and the game that you'll be calling is Mary. Are

1106
00:57:37,600 --> 00:57:39,200
Speaker 1: you calling Marion or are you calling a game that

1107
00:57:39,240 --> 00:57:40,240
Speaker 1: happens to be at Marion.

1108
00:57:41,240 --> 00:57:43,000
Speaker 5: No, so this is a first round game.

1109
00:57:43,040 --> 00:57:48,479
Speaker 8: It'll be sat Ambrose versus who is Augustina and then

1110
00:57:49,000 --> 00:57:52,160
Speaker 8: the winner will play Marion on Saturday. Marion's the number

1111
00:57:52,200 --> 00:57:54,560
Speaker 8: one seed overall. So congrats to the women on a

1112
00:57:54,600 --> 00:57:55,120
Speaker 8: great season.

1113
00:57:55,200 --> 00:57:56,320
Speaker 1: You know, I don't know if you know this or not,

1114
00:57:56,360 --> 00:57:58,440
Speaker 1: but one of my unique skills is I can do

1115
00:57:58,520 --> 00:58:01,040
Speaker 1: a goal call as if I'm like a European broadcaster,

1116
00:58:01,120 --> 00:58:03,560
Speaker 1: where I can hold the call for like thirty five

1117
00:58:03,600 --> 00:58:05,840
Speaker 1: consecutive seconds. Did you know that, christ I don't.

1118
00:58:06,240 --> 00:58:07,320
Speaker 8: I mean, I don't doubt it.

1119
00:58:07,600 --> 00:58:09,080
Speaker 5: You've got an array of accents.

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00:58:10,760 --> 00:58:14,200
Speaker 1: How I try to thank you, Chach Kristen. All right, Christin,

1121
00:58:14,280 --> 00:58:16,919
Speaker 1: you are Reggie mail Or female caller number thirty one,

1122
00:58:17,200 --> 00:58:20,320
Speaker 1: and we appreciate you participating in the program. That is

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00:58:20,640 --> 00:58:23,040
Speaker 1: so much shake keep it going, I appreciate it. That's

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00:58:23,040 --> 00:58:25,680
Speaker 1: our director of freelance broadcasting, Christen. I'm telling you Eddie,

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00:58:25,720 --> 00:58:30,040
Speaker 1: you ready, gosh, we have to really do this good.

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00:58:37,760 --> 00:58:39,120
Speaker 1: I mean, I could keep it up, but I'm not

1127
00:58:39,160 --> 00:58:41,440
Speaker 1: going to because people have already started and dogs are

1128
00:58:41,440 --> 00:58:44,240
Speaker 1: going crazy. That was nine seconds. Oh, I could have

1129
00:58:44,280 --> 00:58:47,040
Speaker 1: gone for I mean the full six minutes. Yeah, I'm sure.

1130
00:58:47,480 --> 00:58:49,680
Speaker 1: I'm sure the radio listeners are enjoying that. That's why.

1131
00:58:49,720 --> 00:58:51,880
Speaker 1: I mean, that's why. And do I even sound out

1132
00:58:51,880 --> 00:58:52,360
Speaker 1: of breath to you?

1133
00:58:53,040 --> 00:58:55,320
Speaker 2: I would hope not. It was only like nine seconds.

1134
00:58:55,640 --> 00:58:58,960
Speaker 2: I mean, are you not somewhat impressed? Colts and Chiefs

1135
00:58:59,000 --> 00:59:01,960
Speaker 2: coming up on Sunday? And this is a big one.

1136
00:59:02,000 --> 00:59:04,160
Speaker 2: It's a big one partially because you know. Now here's

1137
00:59:04,400 --> 00:59:09,200
Speaker 2: the other question, Eddie, I got a message.

1138
00:59:09,640 --> 00:59:11,360
Speaker 1: Let me just read you this message. This is how

1139
00:59:11,400 --> 00:59:13,280
Speaker 1: you know it's big. Now we're gonna have We're gonna

1140
00:59:13,280 --> 00:59:14,760
Speaker 1: go to Kansas City coming up here as part of

1141
00:59:15,160 --> 00:59:17,800
Speaker 1: our road trip in an hour. Correct, that is correct.

1142
00:59:17,800 --> 00:59:23,920
Speaker 1: But Jesse knew of the athletic Okay, so it is

1143
00:59:23,960 --> 00:59:26,120
Speaker 1: not uncommon. I think most people know this. It is

1144
00:59:26,120 --> 00:59:29,440
Speaker 1: not uncommon, as you know by listening to this show

1145
00:59:29,720 --> 00:59:31,680
Speaker 1: that when you do what we do for a living.

1146
00:59:33,320 --> 00:59:35,880
Speaker 1: And let me give you a glimpse behind the curtain.

1147
00:59:37,240 --> 00:59:39,920
Speaker 1: The NFL and the NBA both come out with and

1148
00:59:40,000 --> 00:59:41,880
Speaker 1: the NBA it's a blue book. In the NFL, it's

1149
00:59:41,920 --> 00:59:43,560
Speaker 1: a black book. I mean it used to literally be

1150
00:59:43,600 --> 00:59:46,160
Speaker 1: a printed paperback book. Now obviously now this is all

1151
00:59:46,200 --> 00:59:51,280
Speaker 1: website stuff, but for those that don't know, when you

1152
00:59:51,400 --> 00:59:56,160
Speaker 1: are a credentialed media member, and it's a little bit

1153
00:59:56,160 --> 00:59:58,360
Speaker 1: more of a gray area now because you have websites

1154
00:59:58,400 --> 01:00:02,280
Speaker 1: and podcasts and all of this. But in the traditional form,

1155
01:00:02,560 --> 01:00:07,120
Speaker 1: back back in my day, in the traditional form, the

1156
01:00:07,160 --> 01:00:10,600
Speaker 1: old school form, when a local market, give me an

1157
01:00:10,680 --> 01:00:12,880
Speaker 1: NFL team, off top of your headed, Eddie Gerson Goba

1158
01:00:12,920 --> 01:00:17,280
Speaker 1: Arizona Cardinals, the Arizona Cardinals. So in the NFL Black Book,

1159
01:00:18,280 --> 01:00:22,800
Speaker 1: you go to Arizona Cardinals, and it has listed the say,

1160
01:00:22,880 --> 01:00:26,240
Speaker 1: four television stations in the Phoenix area, the ABC affiliate,

1161
01:00:26,240 --> 01:00:29,200
Speaker 1: the NBC affiliate, the CBS affiliate, the Fox affiliate. Then

1162
01:00:29,240 --> 01:00:32,680
Speaker 1: it has the newspapers, the Arizona Republic, the Phoenix Daily

1163
01:00:32,760 --> 01:00:35,240
Speaker 1: News or whatever that one might be, the Scottsdale Times,

1164
01:00:35,280 --> 01:00:37,919
Speaker 1: you know all of those. And it has the name,

1165
01:00:38,280 --> 01:00:41,040
Speaker 1: the email address, the phone number of the representative that

1166
01:00:41,120 --> 01:00:44,640
Speaker 1: is credentialed for those outlets to cover the team. And

1167
01:00:44,720 --> 01:00:48,560
Speaker 1: this is basically a directory for everybody that is in.

1168
01:00:48,960 --> 01:00:51,080
Speaker 1: Anybody who's in that book gets a copy of the

1169
01:00:51,120 --> 01:00:54,840
Speaker 1: book so that when these situations come up, colts are

1170
01:00:54,840 --> 01:00:57,480
Speaker 1: getting ready to play the Chiefs. Hey, look in the

1171
01:00:57,480 --> 01:00:59,880
Speaker 1: black Book. Find somebody that covers the Chiefs. See them

1172
01:01:00,080 --> 01:01:02,920
Speaker 1: come on, or run something past him, or ask him

1173
01:01:02,920 --> 01:01:05,120
Speaker 1: a question, whatever it might be. The NBA does the

1174
01:01:05,160 --> 01:01:08,160
Speaker 1: same with the NBA Blue Book. That's how it comes

1175
01:01:08,160 --> 01:01:12,920
Speaker 1: to be in the traditionally speaking, I mean now with

1176
01:01:13,000 --> 01:01:16,360
Speaker 1: social media things are different, but traditionally speaking, that's how

1177
01:01:16,440 --> 01:01:18,760
Speaker 1: it comes to be that no matter where you are,

1178
01:01:19,640 --> 01:01:21,400
Speaker 1: you could be in give me another city off top

1179
01:01:21,440 --> 01:01:23,800
Speaker 1: of your head, a getters and go New Orleans, New Orleans.

1180
01:01:23,840 --> 01:01:25,520
Speaker 1: You could be in New Orleans and the Saints are

1181
01:01:25,520 --> 01:01:30,600
Speaker 1: getting ready to play the Cardinals, Cardinals, and so you're

1182
01:01:30,680 --> 01:01:34,480
Speaker 1: driving along and it's sports talk radio. I can't do

1183
01:01:34,520 --> 01:01:37,600
Speaker 1: a Cajun accent. If I did a Cajun accent, I would, right,

1184
01:01:38,880 --> 01:01:41,480
Speaker 1: But you get a guy on there. The thing about

1185
01:01:41,520 --> 01:01:44,400
Speaker 1: the science, you know about the cowboys here, substitute the cowboys,

1186
01:01:45,360 --> 01:01:48,959
Speaker 1: Well the cowboys are just those are cowboys, right, Hey, y'ah,

1187
01:01:49,760 --> 01:01:55,200
Speaker 1: hey man down here in Dallas, listen, coming up again,

1188
01:01:55,280 --> 01:01:56,920
Speaker 1: Travis Tritt, take us gave away. We're going to do

1189
01:01:56,960 --> 01:01:58,600
Speaker 1: that here coming up about a half hour. So mac

1190
01:01:58,640 --> 01:02:01,760
Speaker 1: Engel Fort Warstar Telegram, go and join us. But oil

1191
01:02:01,840 --> 01:02:04,080
Speaker 1: prices is going down. Don't let you know, don't go

1192
01:02:04,120 --> 01:02:06,480
Speaker 1: out there too soon and just you know, hitching t

1193
01:02:06,720 --> 01:02:09,880
Speaker 1: wagon out of town. So in Dallas, and you know,

1194
01:02:09,920 --> 01:02:13,480
Speaker 1: they don't really talk that way. Whatever might be. You

1195
01:02:13,520 --> 01:02:16,480
Speaker 1: hear them talking to the reporter for whoever they're getting

1196
01:02:16,560 --> 01:02:18,919
Speaker 1: ready to play that week. It's been a long time,

1197
01:02:18,960 --> 01:02:21,480
Speaker 1: truth be told. As in Indianapolis. Now Kevin is kind

1198
01:02:21,480 --> 01:02:23,960
Speaker 1: of the guy for this radio station that's the ambassador

1199
01:02:24,000 --> 01:02:28,480
Speaker 1: for Colts coverage obviously, Kevin Bowen. You see his post games,

1200
01:02:29,160 --> 01:02:31,800
Speaker 1: you know, breakdowns that are brought to you by the

1201
01:02:31,800 --> 01:02:35,440
Speaker 1: Indiana Donnter Network, and you know clearly he is the

1202
01:02:35,480 --> 01:02:37,360
Speaker 1: guy on our website that is putting out a lot

1203
01:02:37,360 --> 01:02:39,000
Speaker 1: of stuff and he's doing the podcast at one O

1204
01:02:39,080 --> 01:02:41,680
Speaker 1: seven five the fan dot Com with me. Yeah, but

1205
01:02:41,840 --> 01:02:47,240
Speaker 1: the but nonetheless, you start getting requests when when the

1206
01:02:47,280 --> 01:02:49,160
Speaker 1: Colts now are real. It's been a couple of years

1207
01:02:49,200 --> 01:02:53,000
Speaker 1: since this has happened. Back in the Manning era, back

1208
01:02:53,040 --> 01:02:55,360
Speaker 1: in the Luck era, it was non stop. I mean

1209
01:02:55,400 --> 01:02:57,640
Speaker 1: every day you're getting a different request from a different

1210
01:02:57,640 --> 01:02:59,240
Speaker 1: media place, you know, to go on and do a

1211
01:02:59,320 --> 01:03:02,560
Speaker 1: radio hit. Now I got this one, and I'd like

1212
01:03:02,600 --> 01:03:05,760
Speaker 1: to know what you think the odds are on this, Eddie,

1213
01:03:05,840 --> 01:03:11,280
Speaker 1: or how you would respond to this, Hi Jake. And look,

1214
01:03:11,320 --> 01:03:13,520
Speaker 1: you want to be accommodating because I know what this

1215
01:03:13,640 --> 01:03:16,520
Speaker 1: is like when you need guests on a show. Right, yes, yes,

1216
01:03:16,840 --> 01:03:18,640
Speaker 1: Hi Jake, this is I'm going to change all names

1217
01:03:18,640 --> 01:03:21,600
Speaker 1: to protect it in these year. Okay, uh, this is

1218
01:03:21,720 --> 01:03:26,720
Speaker 1: Bill with just give me a random number between a

1219
01:03:26,840 --> 01:03:31,040
Speaker 1: radio station. We'll go with one oh seven to five.

1220
01:03:31,040 --> 01:03:33,880
Speaker 1: All right, Hi Jake, this is Bill with one oh

1221
01:03:33,920 --> 01:03:37,720
Speaker 1: seven five the fan in Kansas City. I produce our

1222
01:03:37,760 --> 01:03:39,800
Speaker 1: morning show and we're wondering if you would make it

1223
01:03:40,040 --> 01:03:43,400
Speaker 1: sometime tomorrow in the six to eight o'clock hour to

1224
01:03:43,440 --> 01:03:48,160
Speaker 1: talk about the chiefs Now Eddie, here's the thing, what

1225
01:03:48,200 --> 01:03:49,800
Speaker 1: do you think the odds are? I'm getting up at

1226
01:03:49,840 --> 01:03:51,600
Speaker 1: six thirty to be able to help out with these

1227
01:03:51,600 --> 01:03:55,720
Speaker 1: folks in Kansas City. Very slim, you're three hours into

1228
01:03:55,760 --> 01:03:59,840
Speaker 1: your sleep. That is correct, that's correct. I want to

1229
01:03:59,840 --> 01:04:01,800
Speaker 1: help these folks out. But that's a tough one, right,

1230
01:04:02,040 --> 01:04:06,280
Speaker 1: that's a tough one. That one's going to be tough.

1231
01:04:07,160 --> 01:04:11,000
Speaker 1: But we'll see, you know, we shall see.

1232
01:04:11,080 --> 01:04:13,480
Speaker 2: We'll take you back to your days of doing the morning.

1233
01:04:13,240 --> 01:04:16,760
Speaker 1: Show when I did the morning show. Seventy four percent

1234
01:04:16,840 --> 01:04:18,880
Speaker 1: of the time that I did the morning show, I

1235
01:04:18,960 --> 01:04:24,280
Speaker 1: actually was had not yet gone to bed. I love

1236
01:04:24,320 --> 01:04:26,360
Speaker 1: to do in the morning show. But it's just not

1237
01:04:26,440 --> 01:04:29,040
Speaker 1: my rhythm, it's not my shirt. What's that called the

1238
01:04:29,200 --> 01:04:31,480
Speaker 1: That's why, that's why the show always went off the

1239
01:04:31,520 --> 01:04:34,080
Speaker 1: rails in the last hour. Your sleep deprivation was kicking

1240
01:04:34,120 --> 01:04:38,320
Speaker 1: in the last hour. What about the first two? First

1241
01:04:38,360 --> 01:04:40,480
Speaker 1: two were tolerable, Then the third hour comes along and

1242
01:04:40,520 --> 01:04:42,520
Speaker 1: the next thing you know, you're talking about who knows what?

1243
01:04:43,720 --> 01:04:43,880
Speaker 3: Well?

1244
01:04:43,880 --> 01:04:46,960
Speaker 1: What happens here? We stayed on track for three hours

1245
01:04:47,000 --> 01:04:50,840
Speaker 1: because you're rested, and I'm rested. Listen, I'm fabulously arrested

1246
01:04:50,880 --> 01:04:53,360
Speaker 1: from last night. I slept for and each time I

1247
01:04:53,480 --> 01:04:55,280
Speaker 1: mentioned this, it's going to be an additional half an hour,

1248
01:04:55,440 --> 01:04:58,680
Speaker 1: thirteen and a half hours last night. Wow, Yes, I mean,

1249
01:04:58,720 --> 01:05:00,800
Speaker 1: I'm talking rest refreshed.

1250
01:05:01,680 --> 01:05:03,680
Speaker 2: That's why you got in here like eleven fifty.

1251
01:05:03,440 --> 01:05:06,360
Speaker 1: Eight, whole new Outlook, you're right, actually I overslept, if

1252
01:05:06,360 --> 01:05:08,479
Speaker 1: you really want to the truth, I overslept. Now what's

1253
01:05:08,520 --> 01:05:15,400
Speaker 1: fascinating to me is that I I overslept, but I

1254
01:05:15,480 --> 01:05:18,360
Speaker 1: woke up like my body woke up one minute after

1255
01:05:18,400 --> 01:05:20,120
Speaker 1: my alarm was supposed to go off. Do you ever

1256
01:05:20,120 --> 01:05:21,960
Speaker 1: You know the alarm toggle that you can push on

1257
01:05:22,120 --> 01:05:24,680
Speaker 1: or off, and I had it set, but I actually

1258
01:05:24,760 --> 01:05:26,640
Speaker 1: I had actually hit it to awe, like I'd never

1259
01:05:26,720 --> 01:05:29,720
Speaker 1: turned it on. Yep, And yet I woke up one

1260
01:05:29,760 --> 01:05:31,480
Speaker 1: minute after it was supposed to go off. Is if

1261
01:05:31,520 --> 01:05:33,959
Speaker 1: my body knew. I've always wondered how in the world

1262
01:05:33,960 --> 01:05:34,480
Speaker 1: that happens.

1263
01:05:34,560 --> 01:05:36,560
Speaker 2: You know, they tell you that it's better for you

1264
01:05:36,640 --> 01:05:39,840
Speaker 2: to not have an alarm and just to wake up organically.

1265
01:05:41,200 --> 01:05:42,560
Speaker 2: I don't know what the science is behind it, but

1266
01:05:42,600 --> 01:05:45,560
Speaker 2: apparently you don't, you know, wake up as grocky, Yeah,

1267
01:05:45,600 --> 01:05:46,560
Speaker 2: because your body would.

1268
01:05:46,800 --> 01:05:48,560
Speaker 1: I get that. But the problem for me is that

1269
01:05:48,600 --> 01:05:51,600
Speaker 1: would be it'd be about five point fifteen really yeah, Well,

1270
01:05:51,600 --> 01:05:54,640
Speaker 1: I'd also go to bed at like noon at that point, right.

1271
01:05:55,200 --> 01:05:58,919
Speaker 1: I have real problems. People ask me if I'm an insomniac.

1272
01:05:59,000 --> 01:06:00,720
Speaker 1: It's not that I'm an insie. We know you have

1273
01:06:00,760 --> 01:06:04,360
Speaker 1: real problems. Jay, It's okay. I have problems. I lay

1274
01:06:04,400 --> 01:06:08,880
Speaker 1: there when I go to bed. It probably takes me

1275
01:06:11,920 --> 01:06:14,680
Speaker 1: ninety minutes to two hours to fall asleep, and I

1276
01:06:14,720 --> 01:06:17,880
Speaker 1: have to do Like last night, for example, what I did.

1277
01:06:17,960 --> 01:06:19,840
Speaker 1: I couldn't sleep, and so I decided that I was

1278
01:06:19,880 --> 01:06:21,919
Speaker 1: going to go a through Z and try to think

1279
01:06:21,920 --> 01:06:25,480
Speaker 1: of a television show that began with every letter. You've

1280
01:06:25,520 --> 01:06:27,560
Speaker 1: done that before. Oh no, you've done that with cars.

1281
01:06:28,320 --> 01:06:32,000
Speaker 1: I've done cars. Last night was TV shows. I got

1282
01:06:32,040 --> 01:06:33,640
Speaker 1: to w and all I could hear was you playing

1283
01:06:33,680 --> 01:06:37,400
Speaker 1: Welcome Back Codder? Really X I had to go with

1284
01:06:37,480 --> 01:06:39,800
Speaker 1: Xanadu movie, not TV. I got the X ray, X

1285
01:06:39,800 --> 01:06:41,760
Speaker 1: files was or X files. I then did on my

1286
01:06:41,800 --> 01:06:44,200
Speaker 1: second round, I'm like, oh, X files, but I went

1287
01:06:44,240 --> 01:06:48,600
Speaker 1: all the way through. I mean, you sit there, you

1288
01:06:48,600 --> 01:06:51,000
Speaker 1: have Welcome Back Conner. By chance you still have that

1289
01:06:51,200 --> 01:06:53,520
Speaker 1: cute up. I do not. It's a fabulous theme song.

1290
01:06:53,640 --> 01:06:57,320
Speaker 1: Fabulous theme song. Last night Pacers did something that has

1291
01:06:57,360 --> 01:07:02,040
Speaker 1: only been done once before this year, and it wasn't

1292
01:07:02,280 --> 01:07:06,280
Speaker 1: get a win. But it is something we're talking about.

1293
01:07:06,360 --> 01:07:14,280
Speaker 1: I'll explain next well, Dougie Fresh, look at Eddie Garrison.

1294
01:07:14,320 --> 01:07:16,560
Speaker 1: Spin it up the what's our music theme for today?

1295
01:07:16,560 --> 01:07:17,120
Speaker 1: Do we have one?

1296
01:07:17,240 --> 01:07:17,320
Speaker 8: No?

1297
01:07:19,960 --> 01:07:21,160
Speaker 1: My dad would be proud.

1298
01:07:20,920 --> 01:07:23,360
Speaker 2: Of me for pulling this one out of the archives.

1299
01:07:23,400 --> 01:07:29,160
Speaker 1: Solid, very solid. I remember when you know there's a

1300
01:07:29,160 --> 01:07:38,080
Speaker 1: a very common belief or thought or theory narrative to

1301
01:07:38,240 --> 01:07:41,000
Speaker 1: use that very used often word.

1302
01:07:41,000 --> 01:07:43,320
Speaker 2: Six minutes, six minutes, Donkey Freshierroyn is that what we're

1303
01:07:43,320 --> 01:07:43,960
Speaker 2: talking about.

1304
01:07:43,720 --> 01:07:47,880
Speaker 1: That's six minutes was how long Kristen could be on

1305
01:07:48,000 --> 01:07:54,800
Speaker 1: right and Goo well played thanks with the transcendence of

1306
01:07:54,840 --> 01:07:57,880
Speaker 1: the breakthrough of hip hop. And I truly believe that,

1307
01:07:58,440 --> 01:08:02,720
Speaker 1: in fact, this is an accurate statement and it doesn't

1308
01:08:02,720 --> 01:08:05,000
Speaker 1: come from me, and it's not an original thought, but

1309
01:08:05,160 --> 01:08:08,840
Speaker 1: many hip hop artists would tell you this. If you

1310
01:08:08,880 --> 01:08:11,800
Speaker 1: look at some of the true pioneers of like the

1311
01:08:11,880 --> 01:08:16,800
Speaker 1: hip hop explosion of like from the late seventies New

1312
01:08:16,880 --> 01:08:19,960
Speaker 1: York City stuff into the mid eighties and the late eighties,

1313
01:08:19,960 --> 01:08:22,360
Speaker 1: and then all the stuff that was coming out of

1314
01:08:22,360 --> 01:08:27,639
Speaker 1: the West Coast. When you think about Dougie Fresh would

1315
01:08:27,640 --> 01:08:30,559
Speaker 1: be right in this mix for certain, and I don't

1316
01:08:30,560 --> 01:08:34,400
Speaker 1: mean necessarily even like Run DMC, but Dougie Fresh and

1317
01:08:34,439 --> 01:08:40,920
Speaker 1: then going from that into you know, maybe Houdini and

1318
01:08:41,600 --> 01:08:47,920
Speaker 1: eventually really the breakthrough which would be NWA was the

1319
01:08:48,000 --> 01:08:52,000
Speaker 1: poster child of this two live crew to an extent

1320
01:08:52,439 --> 01:08:58,360
Speaker 1: too short, absolutely slick Rick that era. What really broke

1321
01:08:58,479 --> 01:09:04,439
Speaker 1: through hip hop music was not necessarily the sales for

1322
01:09:04,640 --> 01:09:07,920
Speaker 1: a lot of artists. But once it got to the point,

1323
01:09:08,520 --> 01:09:10,840
Speaker 1: you know, a lot of those artists will tell you

1324
01:09:11,200 --> 01:09:14,759
Speaker 1: that in their earlier years they were able to sell music,

1325
01:09:15,360 --> 01:09:17,760
Speaker 1: but a lot of the people that were buying it

1326
01:09:17,800 --> 01:09:20,120
Speaker 1: were buying it and then immediately making a tape and

1327
01:09:20,200 --> 01:09:24,280
Speaker 1: dubbing it, and they would pass those tapes around. And

1328
01:09:24,360 --> 01:09:28,160
Speaker 1: what really broke through was when those dubbed tapes got

1329
01:09:28,200 --> 01:09:32,920
Speaker 1: into the hands of basically suburban and to a great extent,

1330
01:09:33,000 --> 01:09:36,720
Speaker 1: suburban white America, of which in nineteen eighty eight I

1331
01:09:36,840 --> 01:09:41,599
Speaker 1: was exactly and I will never forget when you know,

1332
01:09:41,720 --> 01:09:44,519
Speaker 1: Todd Geyer and Tony Barbie first got a copy of

1333
01:09:44,960 --> 01:09:48,800
Speaker 1: Dope Man from NWA, and then that went into the

1334
01:09:48,800 --> 01:09:51,120
Speaker 1: Ghetto Boys, and before you knew it, I mean, that

1335
01:09:51,280 --> 01:09:54,760
Speaker 1: was all we were listening to. And so we were

1336
01:09:54,800 --> 01:09:57,439
Speaker 1: going out and buying all of that, And couldn't you

1337
01:09:57,439 --> 01:10:02,360
Speaker 1: know the parental advisory explicitly lyrics and politicians and carmel

1338
01:10:02,400 --> 01:10:04,240
Speaker 1: that were trying to block you from buying it, and

1339
01:10:04,240 --> 01:10:06,800
Speaker 1: that only made you want it that much more. And

1340
01:10:06,840 --> 01:10:10,639
Speaker 1: then all of a sudden you had this breakthrough where

1341
01:10:10,640 --> 01:10:16,880
Speaker 1: now within the landscape of adolescent and young adult America,

1342
01:10:17,320 --> 01:10:20,880
Speaker 1: white or black, that music became ubiquitous, and it was

1343
01:10:21,800 --> 01:10:24,280
Speaker 1: I loved every moment of being a part of that

1344
01:10:24,360 --> 01:10:28,200
Speaker 1: growth and that being one of the tributaries of which

1345
01:10:28,240 --> 01:10:31,120
Speaker 1: that stuff all flowed through. And Dougie Fresh was great,

1346
01:10:31,120 --> 01:10:34,559
Speaker 1: no question about it. Last night at Gambridge Field House

1347
01:10:34,600 --> 01:10:38,559
Speaker 1: Pacers and the Charlotte Hornets, yes, it was the second

1348
01:10:38,560 --> 01:10:42,479
Speaker 1: time this year that the Pacers got to win. Benny

1349
01:10:42,520 --> 01:10:45,280
Speaker 1: Nick Matheren played really well, Jay Huff played really well,

1350
01:10:46,240 --> 01:10:49,439
Speaker 1: and they really kind of controlled the vast majority of

1351
01:10:49,479 --> 01:10:52,720
Speaker 1: that game. I thought Ben Shepherd also played well. He did.

1352
01:10:52,720 --> 01:10:56,160
Speaker 1: He had fifteen right, yep, and that they needed that

1353
01:10:56,200 --> 01:10:57,920
Speaker 1: out of Ben Shephard because he had kind of hit

1354
01:10:58,000 --> 01:11:00,080
Speaker 1: into a rut there. But then again, I think than

1355
01:11:00,120 --> 01:11:03,000
Speaker 1: Shepherd to some extent, Walker hit some nice shots early

1356
01:11:03,000 --> 01:11:06,400
Speaker 1: in the game too. Yeah, and Walker's another one that

1357
01:11:07,080 --> 01:11:11,479
Speaker 1: Jerris Walker to me again, I'm going to go on

1358
01:11:11,520 --> 01:11:16,720
Speaker 1: the way back reference machine here, okay, Jerris Walker to

1359
01:11:16,840 --> 01:11:24,960
Speaker 1: me reminds me of and for you fans of IU basketball,

1360
01:11:25,080 --> 01:11:29,439
Speaker 1: put on your retro cap here. Jerris Walker reminds me

1361
01:11:29,479 --> 01:11:34,560
Speaker 1: of Andre Patterson. Andre Patterson at the time that Indiana

1362
01:11:34,600 --> 01:11:39,479
Speaker 1: got him and signed him out of Abilene Texas. They

1363
01:11:39,479 --> 01:11:42,759
Speaker 1: were coming off of the great era of Calbert Cheney

1364
01:11:42,880 --> 01:11:47,040
Speaker 1: and Greg Graham and Damon Bailey and Alan Henderson and

1365
01:11:47,080 --> 01:11:50,160
Speaker 1: you know, the Great Team's Night's real last great stand.

1366
01:11:51,880 --> 01:11:56,479
Speaker 1: And for the first time really Indiana went recruiting wise

1367
01:11:56,680 --> 01:12:00,040
Speaker 1: into a different stratosphere of going out and trying to

1368
01:12:00,120 --> 01:12:03,479
Speaker 1: just get top ten players nationally, and they ended up

1369
01:12:03,520 --> 01:12:05,839
Speaker 1: with a recruiting class that had Neil Reed and Charlie

1370
01:12:05,840 --> 01:12:09,160
Speaker 1: Miller and Andre Patterson. And Patterson was the big sign.

1371
01:12:09,560 --> 01:12:12,360
Speaker 1: He was a top five recruit. He was a six',

1372
01:12:12,439 --> 01:12:15,840
Speaker 1: eight A donnis type, body you, know just everything that

1373
01:12:15,880 --> 01:12:19,160
Speaker 1: you would, want and he had moments and, flashes and

1374
01:12:19,760 --> 01:12:22,360
Speaker 1: yet he was never able to fully put it together

1375
01:12:22,560 --> 01:12:26,160
Speaker 1: until That duke game of his senior. Year but you

1376
01:12:26,720 --> 01:12:32,120
Speaker 1: you were constantly tantalized by the potential because you knew

1377
01:12:32,160 --> 01:12:35,240
Speaker 1: not only coming into it that there was this expected,

1378
01:12:35,280 --> 01:12:38,920
Speaker 1: pedigree but also this body type that you just hadn't seen.

1379
01:12:39,000 --> 01:12:43,719
Speaker 1: Before And Jarris walker is very similar to that because

1380
01:12:44,600 --> 01:12:48,679
Speaker 1: where he was drafted, was you, know into an area

1381
01:12:48,720 --> 01:12:54,040
Speaker 1: that The pacers had not typically been. In Ben matheren

1382
01:12:54,160 --> 01:12:57,120
Speaker 1: obviously being also a guy that was drafted that, high

1383
01:12:57,160 --> 01:13:00,200
Speaker 1: but we weren't used to seeing the pacers drafting eye,

1384
01:13:00,280 --> 01:13:02,800
Speaker 1: picks lottery, picks putting them in. There and he has

1385
01:13:02,880 --> 01:13:05,960
Speaker 1: this body type that is just different than anything we've seen.

1386
01:13:06,000 --> 01:13:10,400
Speaker 1: Here and when the game slowed down and he started

1387
01:13:10,439 --> 01:13:14,000
Speaker 1: hitting shots that you see just enough. Flashes But, eddie

1388
01:13:14,040 --> 01:13:17,400
Speaker 1: the reality is For Jaris, walker putting it all together

1389
01:13:17,520 --> 01:13:20,439
Speaker 1: on the regular has been the challenge that's been the

1390
01:13:20,479 --> 01:13:22,080
Speaker 1: real intrigue for.

1391
01:13:22,280 --> 01:13:24,160
Speaker 2: HIM i go back to what he said with, THIS

1392
01:13:24,240 --> 01:13:27,240
Speaker 2: i think was last year when you're asking him and

1393
01:13:27,280 --> 01:13:28,840
Speaker 2: he was, like he, said, oh you're a real.

1394
01:13:28,880 --> 01:13:31,960
Speaker 1: Hooper like you know that about the game slowing. Down

1395
01:13:32,160 --> 01:13:33,000
Speaker 1: the game. Doesn't it.

1396
01:13:33,080 --> 01:13:35,680
Speaker 2: Doesn't it's not slow for him right? Now, correct it

1397
01:13:35,720 --> 01:13:38,640
Speaker 2: still looks fast Because jamie talks about this all the,

1398
01:13:38,640 --> 01:13:41,400
Speaker 2: Time like every time he touches the, ball it's always, Like,

1399
01:13:41,400 --> 01:13:43,320
Speaker 2: okay what AM I i? Got he's, like he's trying

1400
01:13:43,320 --> 01:13:46,360
Speaker 2: to process he's moving faster than the. Game the game's

1401
01:13:46,400 --> 01:13:52,600
Speaker 2: moving faster than. Him, well but it's A i would, disagree,

1402
01:13:52,760 --> 01:13:56,559
Speaker 2: Respectfully and What i'm saying is, This, okay he in his,

1403
01:13:56,800 --> 01:14:01,080
Speaker 2: mind he agrees with. You in his, mind he feels

1404
01:14:01,120 --> 01:14:03,400
Speaker 2: the game is moving faster than, him and so then

1405
01:14:03,479 --> 01:14:07,280
Speaker 2: as a, result he is moving too fast because it

1406
01:14:07,320 --> 01:14:10,400
Speaker 2: doesn't feel natural to, him and so when the ball

1407
01:14:10,439 --> 01:14:12,880
Speaker 2: comes to, him for, example he is trying to make

1408
01:14:12,920 --> 01:14:15,360
Speaker 2: his move too quickly and he shuffles his feet and

1409
01:14:15,400 --> 01:14:18,080
Speaker 2: he turns it, over or he is putting the ball

1410
01:14:18,160 --> 01:14:21,960
Speaker 2: up too quickly because he's anticipating that the defense is

1411
01:14:21,960 --> 01:14:24,080
Speaker 2: coming over and he's not taking his time on a,

1412
01:14:24,120 --> 01:14:26,000
Speaker 2: shot et, cetera and he's rushing. It and that's WHAT

1413
01:14:26,040 --> 01:14:27,800
Speaker 2: i was asking him WHEN i had him. ON i,

1414
01:14:27,800 --> 01:14:31,920
Speaker 2: said you, know WHEN i played high school, basketball not

1415
01:14:31,960 --> 01:14:34,360
Speaker 2: even comparable to THE, NBA i, realized except for, THIS

1416
01:14:34,920 --> 01:14:37,040
Speaker 2: i knew WHAT i needed to, do AND i knew

1417
01:14:37,080 --> 01:14:39,880
Speaker 2: WHAT i could, do BUT i was so eager to

1418
01:14:39,960 --> 01:14:43,120
Speaker 2: do it THAT i was running at a one point

1419
01:14:43,120 --> 01:14:45,200
Speaker 2: five speed WHEN i only needed to run to one

1420
01:14:45,200 --> 01:14:47,639
Speaker 2: point zero and let it slow down and naturally take.

1421
01:14:47,640 --> 01:14:49,960
Speaker 2: Place and that's when he, said you know, What you're

1422
01:14:50,000 --> 01:14:52,120
Speaker 2: a hooper if you know. That, yes that's exactly HOW i.

1423
01:14:52,160 --> 01:14:54,120
Speaker 2: Feel there's been too many times this year Where i've

1424
01:14:54,160 --> 01:14:57,439
Speaker 2: watched him, specifically like get the ball and he'll have

1425
01:14:57,479 --> 01:15:00,840
Speaker 2: the chance to put up in open, three but he, hesitates

1426
01:15:01,520 --> 01:15:04,559
Speaker 2: and then he tries to, do try to create space

1427
01:15:04,600 --> 01:15:07,360
Speaker 2: off the dribble ends up taking a contest to. Three

1428
01:15:08,160 --> 01:15:09,960
Speaker 2: that's where the issues have been for me this year

1429
01:15:10,000 --> 01:15:12,280
Speaker 2: With walker AND i feel like the games are moving too.

1430
01:15:12,280 --> 01:15:14,439
Speaker 2: Fast it's, like this is an area WHERE i need

1431
01:15:14,439 --> 01:15:18,400
Speaker 2: to shoot. Instead he's you, know he's all, Thinking that's

1432
01:15:18,439 --> 01:15:18,880
Speaker 2: What i'm getting.

1433
01:15:18,880 --> 01:15:22,080
Speaker 1: At he's, overthinking, right because he. Is he is anticipating,

1434
01:15:22,120 --> 01:15:25,320
Speaker 1: that you, know he's overthinking. It he's not letting it

1435
01:15:25,400 --> 01:15:29,320
Speaker 1: just slow down and naturally. Flow but last night during the,

1436
01:15:29,360 --> 01:15:31,320
Speaker 1: game it was not the second win of the year

1437
01:15:31,320 --> 01:15:32,880
Speaker 1: that jumped out to. Me it was the fact, that

1438
01:15:32,920 --> 01:15:35,840
Speaker 1: for the second time this, YEAR i saw The pacers

1439
01:15:36,400 --> 01:15:39,799
Speaker 1: on the video board taking a swipe At Miles. Turner

1440
01:15:39,840 --> 01:15:43,200
Speaker 1: it happened a lot during the, game obviously When Miles

1441
01:15:43,200 --> 01:15:48,519
Speaker 1: turner was here And milwaukee And indiana were facing one,

1442
01:15:48,560 --> 01:15:50,799
Speaker 1: another and throughout the course of the game When Isaiah

1443
01:15:50,840 --> 01:15:53,559
Speaker 1: jackson had a really big, game they kept flashing up

1444
01:15:53,560 --> 01:15:56,519
Speaker 1: on the video board the comparisons Between jackson and as

1445
01:15:56,560 --> 01:16:01,160
Speaker 1: Well Miles. Turner last, night before the, game they put

1446
01:16:01,240 --> 01:16:03,600
Speaker 1: a message up on the video. Board it said like

1447
01:16:03,640 --> 01:16:06,759
Speaker 1: The Indie. Star Indie star was the sponsor for. It Indie,

1448
01:16:06,760 --> 01:16:11,080
Speaker 1: star you Know PACER's, report and it mentioned That Isaiah

1449
01:16:11,160 --> 01:16:13,759
Speaker 1: jackson in The detroit game had just FINISHED i, believe

1450
01:16:13,760 --> 01:16:17,799
Speaker 1: his sixth double double of the. Year and then underneath

1451
01:16:17,800 --> 01:16:20,960
Speaker 1: it and that's. Fine underneath it Said Miles turner has

1452
01:16:21,040 --> 01:16:24,639
Speaker 1: yet to get a double double this year With. Milwaukee Bob.

1453
01:16:24,720 --> 01:16:30,920
Speaker 1: Kravitz Bob kravitz saw, that somebody posted. It it went.

1454
01:16:31,000 --> 01:16:33,519
Speaker 1: Semiviral somebody posted it and, said, LIKE i love The

1455
01:16:33,520 --> 01:16:37,080
Speaker 1: pacers being petty Against Miles. Turner Bob kravitz our Friend

1456
01:16:37,320 --> 01:16:40,639
Speaker 1: Bob kravitz dot com from substach and formerly With channel

1457
01:16:40,680 --> 01:16:43,599
Speaker 1: thirteen in The Indie. Star Bob kravitz saw that and,

1458
01:16:43,640 --> 01:16:50,000
Speaker 1: said this is. Weak this is. Weak. Now what caught

1459
01:16:50,040 --> 01:16:52,920
Speaker 1: my eye today it's the second time this year that

1460
01:16:52,920 --> 01:16:55,360
Speaker 1: they've used the video board to bring Up Miles. Turner

1461
01:16:55,760 --> 01:17:01,200
Speaker 1: Bob kravitz pointed it out that it's weak and very.

1462
01:17:01,240 --> 01:17:07,000
Speaker 1: Interesting who replied to that tweet and, SAID i, agree

1463
01:17:07,520 --> 01:17:13,840
Speaker 1: very interesting and probably something that somebody is going to

1464
01:17:13,880 --> 01:17:17,400
Speaker 1: look at and, go oh, boy maybe we need to rethink.

1465
01:17:17,439 --> 01:17:21,800
Speaker 1: Things ponder who it, Is, eddie and we'll get your guests.

1466
01:17:21,840 --> 01:17:27,240
Speaker 1: Next you, KNOW i always hesitate to It it's so

1467
01:17:27,400 --> 01:17:35,040
Speaker 1: funny because thirty years, ago the thought of playing this

1468
01:17:35,120 --> 01:17:37,960
Speaker 1: song on the radio in, general even in an edited,

1469
01:17:38,040 --> 01:17:41,840
Speaker 1: version was almost. Unthinkable and, NOW i, mean you, know

1470
01:17:41,920 --> 01:17:45,120
Speaker 1: Ice cube went from that to you, know Doing disney, films,

1471
01:17:45,200 --> 01:17:51,559
Speaker 1: right and, yeah the mainstream level of that, song it

1472
01:17:51,640 --> 01:17:59,200
Speaker 1: is almost impossible to illustrate to somebody just how underground

1473
01:17:59,320 --> 01:18:02,120
Speaker 1: that was when it came, OUT i.

1474
01:18:02,080 --> 01:18:03,519
Speaker 4: Mean all of.

1475
01:18:03,560 --> 01:18:10,840
Speaker 1: It and it gave an. Empowerment what really was WAS i,

1476
01:18:10,960 --> 01:18:14,479
Speaker 1: thought AND i think in the MOMENT i was aware of,

1477
01:18:14,520 --> 01:18:22,000
Speaker 1: it but the sounds of Ice cube gave a false

1478
01:18:22,160 --> 01:18:27,160
Speaker 1: toughness to like myself and my buddies in, again like

1479
01:18:27,320 --> 01:18:30,960
Speaker 1: white Suburban, america IF i might be that, frank you,

1480
01:18:30,960 --> 01:18:34,920
Speaker 1: know we were hardcore because we knew the lyrics OF.

1481
01:18:35,040 --> 01:18:38,240
Speaker 1: Nwa but at the same, time what it also did

1482
01:18:38,479 --> 01:18:44,040
Speaker 1: is for the vast majority of my you, Know African

1483
01:18:44,080 --> 01:18:48,000
Speaker 1: american classmates and teammates and those THAT i went to school,

1484
01:18:48,040 --> 01:18:52,880
Speaker 1: with it then suddenly empowered them because they were a

1485
01:18:52,960 --> 01:18:56,600
Speaker 1: part of something and they were associated with or immediately

1486
01:18:56,640 --> 01:19:00,960
Speaker 1: relatable to something that crossed over and a connection for

1487
01:19:01,040 --> 01:19:03,679
Speaker 1: the rest of the, team the rest of the, school

1488
01:19:03,840 --> 01:19:07,880
Speaker 1: whatever it might. Be and then that parlayed into do

1489
01:19:07,960 --> 01:19:12,160
Speaker 1: The right thing From Spike lee And Public, enemy WHO

1490
01:19:12,240 --> 01:19:16,160
Speaker 1: i absolutely, loved and fight the power and ex, clan

1491
01:19:16,760 --> 01:19:22,040
Speaker 1: and it just gave, voice and it gave a sense

1492
01:19:22,200 --> 01:19:27,680
Speaker 1: of power and feeling of belonging and expression to many

1493
01:19:27,720 --> 01:19:30,160
Speaker 1: of my classmates THAT i think previously had not seen

1494
01:19:30,200 --> 01:19:32,559
Speaker 1: it to that point or not allowed it to be

1495
01:19:32,840 --> 01:19:36,400
Speaker 1: recognized by those that were not in their. Arena and

1496
01:19:36,439 --> 01:19:39,920
Speaker 1: SO i just thought it Was it truly was a

1497
01:19:41,439 --> 01:19:49,680
Speaker 1: cultural sidebar that was at the, time even now WHEN

1498
01:19:49,720 --> 01:19:51,400
Speaker 1: i look back on, it but even in the, MOMENT

1499
01:19:51,439 --> 01:19:52,800
Speaker 1: i was aware of the fact that it was a

1500
01:19:52,840 --> 01:19:55,120
Speaker 1: privilege to be a part of. It it was a

1501
01:19:55,160 --> 01:19:57,080
Speaker 1: fun thing to be a part of all of. That

1502
01:19:57,640 --> 01:20:04,000
Speaker 1: So Bob kravitz commented on The pacers video board message last,

1503
01:20:04,080 --> 01:20:07,679
Speaker 1: night including a subtle swipe At Miles, turner and, said

1504
01:20:07,720 --> 01:20:12,400
Speaker 1: this is. Weak Eddie. Garrison you noticed the same thing

1505
01:20:12,439 --> 01:20:15,360
Speaker 1: THAT i did in terms of the, reply, CORRECT i,

1506
01:20:15,439 --> 01:20:19,000
Speaker 1: Did friend of The. Show friend of The. Show, Indeed

1507
01:20:20,400 --> 01:20:25,480
Speaker 1: Stephen simon replied To Bob kravitz and, SAID i. AGREE

1508
01:20:26,960 --> 01:20:29,799
Speaker 1: i don't, know nor is it my job or desire

1509
01:20:30,000 --> 01:20:32,680
Speaker 1: or intent to throw under the bus whoever it. Is

1510
01:20:32,680 --> 01:20:35,680
Speaker 1: that put that message up on the video, board and

1511
01:20:35,720 --> 01:20:37,720
Speaker 1: it certainly would not be something that you get called

1512
01:20:37,720 --> 01:20:39,920
Speaker 1: to the carpet on, immediately even THOUGH i guess somewhat

1513
01:20:39,960 --> 01:20:42,599
Speaker 1: that's what we're. Doing as much as simply to say

1514
01:20:43,760 --> 01:20:46,160
Speaker 1: it would, appear it would be in the best interest

1515
01:20:46,160 --> 01:20:48,040
Speaker 1: of whoever did that to say to, themselves you know,

1516
01:20:48,080 --> 01:20:51,960
Speaker 1: what maybe think twice next, time because for those that don't,

1517
01:20:52,000 --> 01:20:54,360
Speaker 1: Know Steven simon of course part of the ownership family

1518
01:20:54,479 --> 01:20:59,559
Speaker 1: of The Indiana. Pacers so if the owner is pointing

1519
01:20:59,560 --> 01:21:02,320
Speaker 1: out that it's kind of bush, league then it's probably

1520
01:21:02,400 --> 01:21:05,559
Speaker 1: kind of bush, league. RIGHT i would also, agree, yes

1521
01:21:05,840 --> 01:21:08,880
Speaker 1: college basketball and action tonight you have Both indiana And

1522
01:21:09,000 --> 01:21:13,519
Speaker 1: purdue taking to the, Court indiana taking on Lindon. Wood

1523
01:21:13,520 --> 01:21:13,640
Speaker 1: is that?

1524
01:21:13,720 --> 01:21:15,320
Speaker 2: Right it's one of the best times of the, Year,

1525
01:21:15,439 --> 01:21:19,960
Speaker 2: jake because, yes you're taking On lindenwood tonight six. O'clock

1526
01:21:22,080 --> 01:21:23,599
Speaker 2: it's that time of the year where you get all

1527
01:21:23,680 --> 01:21:26,320
Speaker 2: these different places and people are, playing Like produce playing

1528
01:21:26,360 --> 01:21:30,519
Speaker 2: in The baja mar tonight six o'clock as well Against.

1529
01:21:30,760 --> 01:21:35,600
Speaker 2: Memphis so you're getting all these, tournaments These internet, Invitationals

1530
01:21:35,680 --> 01:21:38,080
Speaker 2: so it'll be a fun couple of days and week

1531
01:21:38,160 --> 01:21:41,160
Speaker 2: here in college. Hoops last, night of, course a big

1532
01:21:41,200 --> 01:21:45,720
Speaker 2: matchup Between yukon And arizona And Wildcats Tommy lloyd and

1533
01:21:47,160 --> 01:21:48,560
Speaker 2: The huskies their first loss of the.

1534
01:21:48,640 --> 01:21:55,000
Speaker 1: Year give me the, School, eddie you, know Obviously Saint

1535
01:21:55,040 --> 01:21:57,360
Speaker 1: mary's friend of the, Show Randy, Bennett, right that goes

1536
01:21:57,400 --> 01:22:01,280
Speaker 1: without saying we're gonna take off the. Board, okay give

1537
01:22:01,360 --> 01:22:07,479
Speaker 1: me the two to three college basketball programs that for whatever,

1538
01:22:07,560 --> 01:22:13,320
Speaker 1: reason for whatever, reason with really no explicable, reason that

1539
01:22:13,360 --> 01:22:15,320
Speaker 1: you find yourself just kind of being a fan of.

1540
01:22:15,360 --> 01:22:16,680
Speaker 1: That you're, like you, KNOW i have a kind of

1541
01:22:16,680 --> 01:22:19,880
Speaker 1: always liked, them always kind of liked them when they're

1542
01:22:19,880 --> 01:22:23,880
Speaker 1: in the. Tournament everybody's got this team In. Indiana we

1543
01:22:23,920 --> 01:22:27,360
Speaker 1: have obviously a huge throng OF iu. Fans we have

1544
01:22:27,439 --> 01:22:29,600
Speaker 1: a huge throng Of purdue. Fans And, purdue by the

1545
01:22:29,640 --> 01:22:33,240
Speaker 1: way their, SCHEDULE i, mean you got to Get purdue

1546
01:22:33,280 --> 01:22:35,519
Speaker 1: a ton of. Credit you already have. That alabama went

1547
01:22:35,560 --> 01:22:38,799
Speaker 1: in the hip. Pocket MEMPHIS i think we would expect

1548
01:22:38,920 --> 01:22:40,120
Speaker 1: is going to be good over the course of the.

1549
01:22:40,200 --> 01:22:42,479
Speaker 1: Year then they Go Iowa. State still they step. Out

1550
01:22:42,479 --> 01:22:44,519
Speaker 1: they they take On marquette after, that then they go

1551
01:22:44,560 --> 01:22:47,559
Speaker 1: and they take On auburn and The Big, tens and

1552
01:22:47,600 --> 01:22:49,960
Speaker 1: that's intermixed within The Big ten. SCHEDULE i, mean they're

1553
01:22:49,960 --> 01:22:54,000
Speaker 1: not afraid to play. Anybody but and, YES i get

1554
01:22:54,040 --> 01:22:55,599
Speaker 1: the fact that there are a lot of people around

1555
01:22:55,640 --> 01:22:57,880
Speaker 1: here that love to See Ball State New well chirp

1556
01:22:57,880 --> 01:23:01,280
Speaker 1: In Michael lewis's, Group, butler it goes without, SAYING i, You,

1557
01:23:01,360 --> 01:23:04,040
Speaker 1: INDY i am still. Convinced i'm telling You Ben hallett's

1558
01:23:04,080 --> 01:23:10,759
Speaker 1: program is that people are gonna start paying attention because

1559
01:23:10,760 --> 01:23:13,160
Speaker 1: of the pace in which they. Play they play like

1560
01:23:13,160 --> 01:23:15,960
Speaker 1: A Loyola merrymount style of play from the early nineties

1561
01:23:16,720 --> 01:23:19,280
Speaker 1: of just non stop, scoring and they're gonna they're gonna

1562
01:23:19,280 --> 01:23:24,080
Speaker 1: break the century mark more often than they're. Not but

1563
01:23:24,200 --> 01:23:27,519
Speaker 1: having said all, that a Non indiana school give me

1564
01:23:27,560 --> 01:23:30,240
Speaker 1: two to three, Programs eddie that deep, down you find

1565
01:23:30,280 --> 01:23:34,719
Speaker 1: yourself on Selection, sunday or on a Random February sunday

1566
01:23:34,760 --> 01:23:36,680
Speaker 1: when it's five o'clock and it's been dark out for

1567
01:23:36,760 --> 01:23:39,040
Speaker 1: six hours and it's snowing and, spitting and you're flipping

1568
01:23:39,040 --> 01:23:41,320
Speaker 1: the channels and they're. On you're, like they're, cool and

1569
01:23:41,360 --> 01:23:42,880
Speaker 1: you kind of watch. Them give me your.

1570
01:23:42,920 --> 01:23:45,840
Speaker 2: Three, well you're gonna be mad with this, one But i'll, play,

1571
01:23:45,880 --> 01:23:53,920
Speaker 2: Uh i'll play the mascot, okay, okay, okay sounds.

1572
01:23:53,640 --> 01:23:56,519
Speaker 1: Like TERRIERS i couldn't.

1573
01:23:56,560 --> 01:23:59,720
Speaker 2: Find, UH i couldn't find this specific dog park, Here

1574
01:23:59,760 --> 01:24:01,680
Speaker 2: so The, Bulldogs.

1575
01:24:01,960 --> 01:24:05,200
Speaker 1: Well that could. Be, Okay so based on, That i'm

1576
01:24:05,200 --> 01:24:08,439
Speaker 1: gonna say. That you're gonna Say, Gonzaga, yes, okay fair,

1577
01:24:08,600 --> 01:24:13,880
Speaker 1: understood no problem with. THAT i Mean gonzaga without question

1578
01:24:14,280 --> 01:24:16,160
Speaker 1: the best program in the last quarter century to not

1579
01:24:16,200 --> 01:24:20,040
Speaker 1: win a, title, unquestionably, Right, yes, okay give me a second.

1580
01:24:20,040 --> 01:24:27,080
Speaker 2: One for some, REASON i don't know Why Michigan state

1581
01:24:27,560 --> 01:24:29,120
Speaker 2: is always a team That i'm reading. FOR i don't

1582
01:24:29,160 --> 01:24:29,680
Speaker 2: know why it.

1583
01:24:29,720 --> 01:24:35,639
Speaker 1: Is it, Is, Yeah tomzo very, likable, unquestionably and then

1584
01:24:35,880 --> 01:24:42,680
Speaker 1: number Three jake of. Course, okay now that would be

1585
01:24:43,240 --> 01:24:46,400
Speaker 1: that would Be Saint. Peter's but we haven't heard from.

1586
01:24:46,439 --> 01:24:48,000
Speaker 1: Them are they still playing? Basketball do we?

1587
01:24:48,040 --> 01:24:48,120
Speaker 8: Know?

1588
01:24:51,240 --> 01:24:55,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay what about this one for? Me? Okay uh

1589
01:24:56,000 --> 01:24:58,320
Speaker 1: part of my. Computer here's the mascot for one of.

1590
01:24:58,360 --> 01:25:02,720
Speaker 1: Mine you know what this?

1591
01:25:02,880 --> 01:25:07,360
Speaker 2: Is this yere crockling Like i'm out Of let me

1592
01:25:07,360 --> 01:25:10,559
Speaker 2: get more To this is not great.

1593
01:25:10,640 --> 01:25:12,240
Speaker 1: Radio this seems To, YEAH i was gonna, say this

1594
01:25:12,240 --> 01:25:14,519
Speaker 1: seems to be false advertising on what that claim that

1595
01:25:14,560 --> 01:25:18,320
Speaker 1: it was gonna be here's a. BAND i shouldn't play

1596
01:25:18,360 --> 01:25:20,599
Speaker 1: the band by this same name BECAUSE i don't know

1597
01:25:20,640 --> 01:25:24,000
Speaker 1: what kind of what kind of lyrics they might, Have

1598
01:25:24,080 --> 01:25:25,840
Speaker 1: so pop me back down here just to be. SAFE

1599
01:25:26,600 --> 01:25:28,880
Speaker 1: i can't FIND i was gonna. Go i'll just Do

1600
01:25:28,960 --> 01:25:31,160
Speaker 1: how about my impersonation to the sound of the? MASCOT

1601
01:25:31,160 --> 01:25:35,000
Speaker 1: i heard it there just in the. Queue oh did

1602
01:25:35,040 --> 01:25:37,840
Speaker 1: YOU i, Didn't so it is okay to play?

1603
01:25:37,840 --> 01:25:37,920
Speaker 8: This?

1604
01:25:38,040 --> 01:25:46,240
Speaker 1: Yes what means? It that is exactly. Correct The Arkansas.

1605
01:25:46,320 --> 01:25:50,400
Speaker 1: Razorbacks i've always Liked darkansas ever Since Corlis, williamson the

1606
01:25:50,400 --> 01:25:54,000
Speaker 1: Big Nasty Scottie. Thurma but even before That Todd day

1607
01:25:54,520 --> 01:25:56,120
Speaker 1: they had a guy in Todd, day The Cold shoot From.

1608
01:25:56,120 --> 01:25:58,680
Speaker 1: ANYWHERE i always kind of Like. Arkansas AND i know

1609
01:25:58,760 --> 01:26:02,320
Speaker 1: that this has past you. Now not cool to say

1610
01:26:02,360 --> 01:26:05,360
Speaker 1: because they're a big ten, four BUT i always LIKED

1611
01:26:05,400 --> 01:26:10,479
Speaker 1: gcla AND i was also around when they first hit the.

1612
01:26:10,520 --> 01:26:14,240
Speaker 1: Scene arizona was. BACK i can hear you, there The

1613
01:26:14,280 --> 01:26:17,400
Speaker 1: Steve kerr era Of arizona when they had the very

1614
01:26:17,439 --> 01:26:20,559
Speaker 1: cool like cactus mascot on the side or logo on the.

1615
01:26:20,600 --> 01:26:25,160
Speaker 1: Sideline arizona was just cool. Man but those are the

1616
01:26:25,160 --> 01:26:27,519
Speaker 1: three That i've always just kind of rooted. For and

1617
01:26:27,520 --> 01:26:32,360
Speaker 1: then of course my pokes Of, Wyoming. Wisconsin, YEAH i Mean.

1618
01:26:33,320 --> 01:26:36,240
Speaker 1: Wisconsin it's hard to. Argue and they, THEY i Mean

1619
01:26:36,360 --> 01:26:39,320
Speaker 1: wisconsin saved the free world when they kept us from

1620
01:26:39,360 --> 01:26:43,280
Speaker 1: getting an Undefeated kentucky. Team but the problem they just

1621
01:26:43,320 --> 01:26:46,360
Speaker 1: for so long played those systems that just kind of

1622
01:26:46,400 --> 01:26:49,879
Speaker 1: lulled you to? Sleep? Right did you grab some barbecue?

1623
01:26:49,880 --> 01:26:50,840
Speaker 1: SAUCE i do have?

1624
01:26:50,880 --> 01:26:50,960
Speaker 4: Some?

1625
01:26:51,120 --> 01:26:53,120
Speaker 1: Yeah are we doing a road trip? Next Are i'm

1626
01:26:53,160 --> 01:26:56,280
Speaker 1: gonna go To Kansas? City, indeed we'll get the standpoint

1627
01:26:56,360 --> 01:26:58,959
Speaker 1: of what The chiefs are thinking heading into this. Matchuphere

1628
01:26:58,960 --> 01:27:02,920
Speaker 1: The colts will do it. Next all, right let's get

1629
01:27:02,960 --> 01:27:04,760
Speaker 1: right to it here on Our thursday road. Trip one

1630
01:27:04,760 --> 01:27:06,880
Speaker 1: of the great cities that you can. Visit it is

1631
01:27:07,000 --> 01:27:10,479
Speaker 1: very similar To indianapolis in many. Areas The plaza is

1632
01:27:10,520 --> 01:27:14,519
Speaker 1: a fabulous shopping and dining area and it goes without.

1633
01:27:14,560 --> 01:27:17,880
Speaker 1: Saying tons of barbecue to enjoy In Kansas city and

1634
01:27:18,000 --> 01:27:21,400
Speaker 1: tailgating galore if you're going To arrowhead to watch The

1635
01:27:21,439 --> 01:27:23,880
Speaker 1: colts and The. Chiefs Jesse newell joining us from The

1636
01:27:23,920 --> 01:27:26,439
Speaker 1: athletic In Kansas city to discuss exactly that on The

1637
01:27:26,520 --> 01:27:29,559
Speaker 1: Java House peel and poor guest line And, Jesse i'll

1638
01:27:29,560 --> 01:27:31,400
Speaker 1: get right to. It The chiefs have dropped two in a,

1639
01:27:31,520 --> 01:27:35,240
Speaker 1: row but there's not a huge sin in losing To

1640
01:27:35,320 --> 01:27:38,720
Speaker 1: buffalo and To. Denver but what can be learned For

1641
01:27:38,880 --> 01:27:42,320
Speaker 1: indianapolis from those games that maybe is a little bit

1642
01:27:42,360 --> 01:27:44,760
Speaker 1: of a blueprint on what exactly you need to do

1643
01:27:44,800 --> 01:27:45,160
Speaker 1: against The.

1644
01:27:45,240 --> 01:27:50,040
Speaker 9: Chiefs, well, yeah a few THINGS i would, say probably

1645
01:27:50,080 --> 01:27:53,120
Speaker 9: separately from each of those. Matchups but number, ONE i

1646
01:27:53,120 --> 01:27:55,240
Speaker 9: would just say that you're probably getting the chief a

1647
01:27:55,240 --> 01:27:57,240
Speaker 9: little bit of a vulnerable time when it comes to

1648
01:27:57,560 --> 01:27:59,840
Speaker 9: just clutch. Plays you, know we know The chief's history

1649
01:28:00,040 --> 01:28:02,519
Speaker 9: last year twelve to zero one score games and this

1650
01:28:02,600 --> 01:28:05,719
Speaker 9: year their own, five and for whatever reason right, now

1651
01:28:05,880 --> 01:28:07,920
Speaker 9: they have, performed AS i wrote at The athletics this,

1652
01:28:08,000 --> 01:28:10,559
Speaker 9: week as one of the most unclutched teams IN nfl

1653
01:28:10,640 --> 01:28:12,680
Speaker 9: history so. FAR i, mean if you look at these

1654
01:28:12,720 --> 01:28:15,439
Speaker 9: situations like within one, score late drive start in the

1655
01:28:15,479 --> 01:28:18,559
Speaker 9: final five minutes and third downs for the, defense and

1656
01:28:18,600 --> 01:28:21,240
Speaker 9: The chiefs had seven, scenarios they get up six first

1657
01:28:21,280 --> 01:28:24,320
Speaker 9: downs and thirteen yards per. Play so those type of

1658
01:28:24,360 --> 01:28:26,080
Speaker 9: moments if The chiefs get into that this, WEEK i

1659
01:28:26,120 --> 01:28:28,360
Speaker 9: Think i'm gonna be kind of looking, around going are

1660
01:28:28,360 --> 01:28:30,000
Speaker 9: they going to make this play in a touch moment

1661
01:28:30,000 --> 01:28:32,040
Speaker 9: like they have in so many past? Years i'd think

1662
01:28:32,080 --> 01:28:33,880
Speaker 9: going back to The buffalo game, too The chiefs are

1663
01:28:33,960 --> 01:28:36,360
Speaker 9: vulnerable when it comes to running the football if you

1664
01:28:36,360 --> 01:28:38,120
Speaker 9: stay committed to it and you keep the game. Close

1665
01:28:38,400 --> 01:28:40,479
Speaker 9: Javes cook had a big game against, them and the

1666
01:28:40,560 --> 01:28:43,200
Speaker 9: chief defensive line is not great at holding up against the.

1667
01:28:43,240 --> 01:28:46,760
Speaker 9: Run their winemackers flow. Downhill their safeties and corners too

1668
01:28:46,760 --> 01:28:48,320
Speaker 9: a good job of playing physically and flowing.

1669
01:28:48,360 --> 01:28:49,240
Speaker 4: Downhill but that.

1670
01:28:49,320 --> 01:28:51,439
Speaker 9: Sets up the other, part WHICH i Know indianapolis fans

1671
01:28:51,520 --> 01:28:55,000
Speaker 9: are very aware of and very familiar with with The shangsiken,

1672
01:28:55,080 --> 01:28:57,120
Speaker 9: offense which is play action and The chiefs have been

1673
01:28:57,479 --> 01:28:59,920
Speaker 9: worse in THE nfl when it comes to defending play action.

1674
01:29:00,080 --> 01:29:03,040
Speaker 9: Passes so there's definitely a path, there a vision, There

1675
01:29:03,080 --> 01:29:05,040
Speaker 9: i'm sure for the cold offense to say they can

1676
01:29:05,080 --> 01:29:07,479
Speaker 9: have some success against The, chiefs but they're gonna have

1677
01:29:07,479 --> 01:29:09,200
Speaker 9: to avoid that knockout. Blow and obviously The chiefs are

1678
01:29:09,200 --> 01:29:11,400
Speaker 9: gonna be hungry at five and five playing another game

1679
01:29:11,400 --> 01:29:11,960
Speaker 9: here at The Roi.

1680
01:29:12,040 --> 01:29:16,200
Speaker 1: Stadium an area of vulnerability For Indianapolis, jesse truth be

1681
01:29:16,240 --> 01:29:20,280
Speaker 1: told Is Daniel jones and his inability to protect the

1682
01:29:20,280 --> 01:29:23,760
Speaker 1: football if he's getting. Rushed that looks Like pittsburgh kind

1683
01:29:23,760 --> 01:29:26,680
Speaker 1: of exposed that blueprint And atlanta tried to take advantage as.

1684
01:29:26,720 --> 01:29:30,200
Speaker 1: Well how Is Kansas city at getting to the quarterback.

1685
01:29:31,960 --> 01:29:34,160
Speaker 9: For the course of the season not that, Great AND

1686
01:29:34,360 --> 01:29:36,280
Speaker 9: i think they had a pretty good game last week Against,

1687
01:29:36,320 --> 01:29:40,040
Speaker 9: denver Which, denver similarly To, indianapolis is a very good offensive,

1688
01:29:40,080 --> 01:29:42,800
Speaker 9: line and the chief did get some pressure. EARLY i

1689
01:29:42,880 --> 01:29:45,200
Speaker 9: just think you know how these things work at mile

1690
01:29:45,280 --> 01:29:47,599
Speaker 9: high and in power, field which, is if you get

1691
01:29:47,600 --> 01:29:50,040
Speaker 9: a bunch of plays backed together in the second, half

1692
01:29:50,640 --> 01:29:53,120
Speaker 9: they altitude gets to you and you get. Tired and

1693
01:29:53,360 --> 01:29:55,400
Speaker 9: The chiefs offense didn't help with too straight fre announced

1694
01:29:55,400 --> 01:29:58,080
Speaker 9: in the fourth. Quarter and the chief surelook gas there

1695
01:29:58,120 --> 01:29:59,840
Speaker 9: at the end of the. Game and again they didn't

1696
01:29:59,840 --> 01:30:01,679
Speaker 9: come threw on the big plays a third and, fifteen

1697
01:30:01,960 --> 01:30:03,640
Speaker 9: they gave up the, conversion a third and, five they

1698
01:30:03,680 --> 01:30:06,160
Speaker 9: gave up a conversion and did not get there at

1699
01:30:06,160 --> 01:30:08,640
Speaker 9: the right. Moment but you, Know Chris jones has been

1700
01:30:08,680 --> 01:30:10,720
Speaker 9: a very down a year for. Him he showed up

1701
01:30:10,720 --> 01:30:13,120
Speaker 9: and flashes Against denver last, week but it's been inconsistent

1702
01:30:13,200 --> 01:30:15,920
Speaker 9: and the effort hasn't always been there late, games especially

1703
01:30:15,920 --> 01:30:18,320
Speaker 9: when you get double. TEAMS i Think George carlostis is

1704
01:30:18,320 --> 01:30:20,400
Speaker 9: having a better year than people think on the, edge

1705
01:30:20,439 --> 01:30:22,439
Speaker 9: but he's more of a pressure guy than a stack,

1706
01:30:22,479 --> 01:30:24,080
Speaker 9: guy and sometimes it take him a little bit to get.

1707
01:30:24,120 --> 01:30:26,519
Speaker 9: There but STILL i think a little bit underrated. Nationally

1708
01:30:26,600 --> 01:30:28,760
Speaker 9: And charles the man who's one guy to, watch number

1709
01:30:28,800 --> 01:30:30,680
Speaker 9: ninety for The. Chiefs he's been kind of a no

1710
01:30:30,760 --> 01:30:32,519
Speaker 9: show most of the, season but he had a pretty

1711
01:30:32,520 --> 01:30:34,160
Speaker 9: good game Against denver last week when it came to.

1712
01:30:34,200 --> 01:30:36,719
Speaker 9: Pressures but those are the main guys they. Have and

1713
01:30:36,880 --> 01:30:39,240
Speaker 9: we Know Seve sagnolo he loves to, blitz but they

1714
01:30:39,240 --> 01:30:41,320
Speaker 9: haven't blitzed as much. Lately so it'll be something to

1715
01:30:41,320 --> 01:30:42,760
Speaker 9: watch in this game to see if The chiefs can

1716
01:30:42,880 --> 01:30:45,360
Speaker 9: get some heat On Daniel, jones but that might have

1717
01:30:45,400 --> 01:30:48,240
Speaker 9: to be manufactured From Seve. Spagnolo and a week after

1718
01:30:48,400 --> 01:30:50,280
Speaker 9: letting Bo nick pick them apart in the final couple,

1719
01:30:50,400 --> 01:30:52,439
Speaker 9: DRIVES i would think The chiefs might be more aggressive this.

1720
01:30:52,520 --> 01:30:55,320
Speaker 1: Week Jesse newell my. Guest he's with The athletic In

1721
01:30:55,400 --> 01:30:57,439
Speaker 1: Kansas city covering The. Chiefs he's on The java house

1722
01:30:57,479 --> 01:31:00,880
Speaker 1: peeling poor guest Line. Jesse, YESTERDAY i was having the

1723
01:31:00,920 --> 01:31:03,080
Speaker 1: discussion about The chiefs on the offensive side of the,

1724
01:31:03,160 --> 01:31:07,439
Speaker 1: ball and my first thought, was, yeah, Listen Travis kelsey's

1725
01:31:07,479 --> 01:31:09,080
Speaker 1: been a huge part of their, offense but he's an

1726
01:31:09,080 --> 01:31:12,759
Speaker 1: older player now and perhaps his slow down has slowed

1727
01:31:12,800 --> 01:31:14,560
Speaker 1: down their. Offense and then you, KNOW i was kind of.

1728
01:31:14,600 --> 01:31:17,920
Speaker 1: Corrected Of, hey, man he's their leading. Receiver it's the

1729
01:31:18,040 --> 01:31:22,000
Speaker 1: fact perhaps That mahomes is not spreading the ball around

1730
01:31:22,160 --> 01:31:24,400
Speaker 1: in space the way that we are typically used to.

1731
01:31:24,600 --> 01:31:27,960
Speaker 1: Seeing is that latter part a safe or a fair?

1732
01:31:28,040 --> 01:31:32,559
Speaker 1: Assessment SO i think This.

1733
01:31:32,680 --> 01:31:35,040
Speaker 9: Chiefs offense is like one of the weirdest things you'll ever,

1734
01:31:35,120 --> 01:31:39,000
Speaker 9: see just based off of you look at the underlying

1735
01:31:39,040 --> 01:31:42,200
Speaker 9: production compared to the. Records and LIKE i, SAID i

1736
01:31:42,280 --> 01:31:44,360
Speaker 9: wrote a story this week about how unsluched The chiefs have.

1737
01:31:44,439 --> 01:31:47,120
Speaker 9: Been that applied to the offense as. Well we talked

1738
01:31:47,120 --> 01:31:49,080
Speaker 9: about that reing out The chiefs had at the inn

1739
01:31:49,120 --> 01:31:50,519
Speaker 9: a last. GAME i, mean how many times to The

1740
01:31:50,600 --> 01:31:52,559
Speaker 9: chiefs you give the all back in a high game

1741
01:31:52,600 --> 01:31:55,080
Speaker 9: To Patrick mahomes is four minths left you don't expect

1742
01:31:55,080 --> 01:31:56,360
Speaker 9: the three and out and you expect them to march

1743
01:31:56,400 --> 01:31:57,880
Speaker 9: down the, fields get down to the five yard, line

1744
01:31:57,920 --> 01:31:59,479
Speaker 9: kick the field, goal and win the. Game and it

1745
01:31:59,520 --> 01:32:02,160
Speaker 9: didn't happen last. Week but you, Know i'm searching through

1746
01:32:02,240 --> 01:32:04,479
Speaker 9: some true media sports. Numbers you guys will appreciate these

1747
01:32:04,560 --> 01:32:07,719
Speaker 9: numbers because you can look at the percentage of drive

1748
01:32:07,840 --> 01:32:10,240
Speaker 9: that the team scores. On, OKAY i was looking for

1749
01:32:10,240 --> 01:32:14,400
Speaker 9: the last, decade, Right so there's three one hundred and twenty,

1750
01:32:14,560 --> 01:32:17,759
Speaker 9: seasons so thirty two, teams ten. Seasons each of teams

1751
01:32:17,800 --> 01:32:20,280
Speaker 9: you're looking, at how often have they scored on? Possession

1752
01:32:20,680 --> 01:32:22,680
Speaker 9: number one on that list in the last decade is

1753
01:32:22,720 --> 01:32:25,000
Speaker 9: this Year's Indianapolis. Colts they're, RIGHT i think at fifty

1754
01:32:25,040 --> 01:32:25,680
Speaker 9: eight percent this.

1755
01:32:25,840 --> 01:32:26,599
Speaker 4: Year so great.

1756
01:32:26,640 --> 01:32:28,320
Speaker 9: Offense we Know styde can do some great things with.

1757
01:32:28,400 --> 01:32:31,479
Speaker 9: Them This chief's offense has scored on forty nine percent

1758
01:32:31,520 --> 01:32:34,679
Speaker 9: of its. Possession that ranks thirteenth out of three hundred

1759
01:32:34,680 --> 01:32:38,080
Speaker 9: and twenty teams in the last. Decade so there's just

1760
01:32:38,240 --> 01:32:43,120
Speaker 9: this weird disconnect based off of The. Chiefs their touchdown

1761
01:32:43,160 --> 01:32:45,560
Speaker 9: percentage on drives this year is twentieth out of the

1762
01:32:45,600 --> 01:32:46,599
Speaker 9: last three hundred twenty.

1763
01:32:46,439 --> 01:32:47,120
Speaker 3: Teams over the past.

1764
01:32:47,200 --> 01:32:50,400
Speaker 9: Decade THEIR epa per play is the second highest of

1765
01:32:50,439 --> 01:32:53,880
Speaker 9: The Patrick mahomes, era only you, know second place is

1766
01:32:53,920 --> 01:32:55,880
Speaker 9: the rookie year when he came, Out not his rookie,

1767
01:32:55,920 --> 01:32:57,439
Speaker 9: year it's his first, year is a starter when he

1768
01:32:57,520 --> 01:32:59,400
Speaker 9: was seting all sorts of records in the. League so

1769
01:32:59,760 --> 01:33:03,000
Speaker 9: on down by down, basis The chiefs offensive look pretty,

1770
01:33:03,000 --> 01:33:05,120
Speaker 9: good and the dutt Roch rice back and they're getting pretty,

1771
01:33:05,160 --> 01:33:08,120
Speaker 9: healthy and left Tackle Josh simmons is back and started last.

1772
01:33:08,160 --> 01:33:09,759
Speaker 4: Week so it's, weird.

1773
01:33:09,920 --> 01:33:12,320
Speaker 9: GUYS i, mean it's it's weird that this team hasn't

1774
01:33:12,360 --> 01:33:14,800
Speaker 9: produced wins and again just hasn't come through in the

1775
01:33:14,880 --> 01:33:17,760
Speaker 9: clutch because they still are very difficult to deal. With

1776
01:33:17,920 --> 01:33:19,719
Speaker 9: but as far as spreading it, around you, Know mahomes

1777
01:33:19,760 --> 01:33:22,320
Speaker 9: and missed on some deep. Shots they've missed on some crucial,

1778
01:33:22,360 --> 01:33:24,760
Speaker 9: settings and right now the intermedia has kind of gone.

1779
01:33:24,760 --> 01:33:26,640
Speaker 9: Away they either throw short and they throw, deep and

1780
01:33:26,680 --> 01:33:28,840
Speaker 9: they haven't hit on enough of those deep shots down the.

1781
01:33:28,880 --> 01:33:31,519
Speaker 9: Field so it's been kind of. Weird it's been weird to,

1782
01:33:31,600 --> 01:33:34,040
Speaker 9: watch BUT i guess that efficiency, wise there's no way

1783
01:33:34,080 --> 01:33:36,759
Speaker 9: that rivals this Year's colts when it comes to scoring

1784
01:33:36,880 --> 01:33:39,360
Speaker 9: and scoring on each one of their. Possessions but The

1785
01:33:39,439 --> 01:33:41,760
Speaker 9: chiefs aren't up there as, well and kind of unexpectedly

1786
01:33:41,840 --> 01:33:43,519
Speaker 9: up there as. Well so there'll be something to watch this.

1787
01:33:43,600 --> 01:33:45,360
Speaker 9: Game this should be two really good offenses going at,

1788
01:33:45,400 --> 01:33:46,960
Speaker 9: it and if they get rolling the WAY i think

1789
01:33:47,000 --> 01:33:48,880
Speaker 9: they can get, rolling there's rob be a shootout in the.

1790
01:33:49,000 --> 01:33:52,519
Speaker 1: End Jesse Daniel jones And Shane Stich and you touched

1791
01:33:52,560 --> 01:33:56,439
Speaker 1: On Jesse nola the. Athletic you touched on The colts

1792
01:33:56,520 --> 01:33:58,760
Speaker 1: offense and their, efficiency AND i think part of that

1793
01:33:58,880 --> 01:34:02,920
Speaker 1: is Because Daniel jones is And Shane steichen have suddenly

1794
01:34:03,000 --> 01:34:05,839
Speaker 1: become like the married couple that can finish each other's. Sentences,

1795
01:34:05,960 --> 01:34:09,439
Speaker 1: Right Patrick mahomes And Andy reid have had that? Forever

1796
01:34:09,760 --> 01:34:10,519
Speaker 1: do they? Still?

1797
01:34:13,520 --> 01:34:15,160
Speaker 3: YEAH i MEAN i do think they.

1798
01:34:15,240 --> 01:34:16,320
Speaker 4: Do they have.

1799
01:34:16,520 --> 01:34:20,680
Speaker 9: That it's LIKE i, said or that is.

1800
01:34:20,720 --> 01:34:22,920
Speaker 1: That a Dumb is that a dumb? Question or does?

1801
01:34:22,960 --> 01:34:24,880
Speaker 1: It is that something that's come?

1802
01:34:25,000 --> 01:34:29,320
Speaker 9: Up IT'S i don't think it's a dumb. Question so

1803
01:34:29,720 --> 01:34:32,719
Speaker 9: three weeks, Ago Patrick mahomes was the leader IN mvp,

1804
01:34:32,840 --> 01:34:35,120
Speaker 9: odds SO i saw the sports and now he's down

1805
01:34:35,160 --> 01:34:37,920
Speaker 9: to like plus two thousands and again there's just some

1806
01:34:38,120 --> 01:34:40,880
Speaker 9: things we're not used to seeing from The, chiefs which

1807
01:34:40,960 --> 01:34:45,000
Speaker 9: is they're on NATIONAL, tv they're on prime, time everybody's,

1808
01:34:45,040 --> 01:34:48,080
Speaker 9: watching and they haven't come through in the situations that

1809
01:34:48,160 --> 01:34:50,040
Speaker 9: matter the. MOST i, mean if you look at The denver,

1810
01:34:50,160 --> 01:34:52,679
Speaker 9: game for the chief first, Possession mahomes has two guys

1811
01:34:53,080 --> 01:34:55,439
Speaker 9: wide open down the field for touchdowns and this is

1812
01:34:55,439 --> 01:34:57,320
Speaker 9: both of. Them and if you hit on that and

1813
01:34:57,360 --> 01:35:00,920
Speaker 9: get upset have nothing On, denver that game could play out. Differently, well,

1814
01:35:01,040 --> 01:35:03,320
Speaker 9: again you go back to the last two. Possessions the

1815
01:35:03,439 --> 01:35:06,200
Speaker 9: defense desperately needs for The chiefs to get off the

1816
01:35:06,240 --> 01:35:08,600
Speaker 9: field and to give them a little bit breather or

1817
01:35:08,640 --> 01:35:09,960
Speaker 9: to stay up the, field give them a little, breather

1818
01:35:10,040 --> 01:35:11,320
Speaker 9: and she just go three and out and three and

1819
01:35:11,360 --> 01:35:14,599
Speaker 9: out and go backwards on their final. Possession so it's

1820
01:35:14,600 --> 01:35:16,720
Speaker 9: about matching up those things in the right moments and

1821
01:35:16,800 --> 01:35:19,360
Speaker 9: being very detail oriented and those sorts of. Things BUT

1822
01:35:20,040 --> 01:35:22,240
Speaker 9: i Think mahomes is having a good. YEAR i think

1823
01:35:22,280 --> 01:35:23,080
Speaker 9: he's been better than a year.

1824
01:35:23,080 --> 01:35:23,280
Speaker 4: AGO i.

1825
01:35:23,360 --> 01:35:25,600
Speaker 9: Know Travis kelsey said on his podcast this week he

1826
01:35:25,720 --> 01:35:28,040
Speaker 9: thinks this year's version of the chief would beat last

1827
01:35:28,080 --> 01:35:29,560
Speaker 9: year's version of The, chiefs who ended up in The

1828
01:35:29,600 --> 01:35:32,280
Speaker 9: Super bowl and ended up fifteen and. Two SO i

1829
01:35:32,360 --> 01:35:34,439
Speaker 9: don't THINK i disagree with. HIM i Think vegas markets

1830
01:35:34,479 --> 01:35:36,160
Speaker 9: would agree with him that this year's scene would be

1831
01:35:36,200 --> 01:35:38,840
Speaker 9: favorite over last year's. Team but LIKE i, said they've

1832
01:35:38,840 --> 01:35:40,160
Speaker 9: got to come through with, it and you hear in

1833
01:35:40,200 --> 01:35:42,559
Speaker 9: this building so often this week is like they've got

1834
01:35:42,640 --> 01:35:44,599
Speaker 9: to go do. IT i, mean you can't just talk

1835
01:35:44,640 --> 01:35:46,320
Speaker 9: about it and talk about how you're efficient and talk

1836
01:35:46,320 --> 01:35:48,640
Speaker 9: about how you feel good about your offense and there's

1837
01:35:48,680 --> 01:35:50,439
Speaker 9: good things. Happening at some, point you got to go

1838
01:35:50,479 --> 01:35:52,599
Speaker 9: out and make a play on a first and ten

1839
01:35:52,800 --> 01:35:54,240
Speaker 9: when the game's on the, line or a third and

1840
01:35:54,320 --> 01:35:56,920
Speaker 9: fifteen defensively when the game's on the. Line and that's

1841
01:35:56,960 --> 01:35:59,880
Speaker 9: where this team has been. Lacking but it seems pretty,

1842
01:36:00,120 --> 01:36:02,800
Speaker 9: luky to be. HONEST i just don't think they forgot

1843
01:36:02,840 --> 01:36:04,320
Speaker 9: how to do this in the span of one. Year

1844
01:36:04,400 --> 01:36:07,120
Speaker 9: so the sample size is not on the. Side right.

1845
01:36:07,160 --> 01:36:08,840
Speaker 9: Now they have seven games to turn it. Around BUT

1846
01:36:09,080 --> 01:36:11,439
Speaker 9: i don't think there's something fatally flawed about The chiefs.

1847
01:36:11,479 --> 01:36:13,840
Speaker 9: Offense if you're asking. THAT i Think mahmes is. GOOD

1848
01:36:13,920 --> 01:36:15,800
Speaker 9: i Think Andy reid is. GOOD i just think they

1849
01:36:16,040 --> 01:36:17,640
Speaker 9: got to put it together in the right, moments and

1850
01:36:17,960 --> 01:36:19,519
Speaker 9: if they do, that THEN i think it'll make the

1851
01:36:19,560 --> 01:36:21,280
Speaker 9: playoffs and they'll be a tough out for any team

1852
01:36:21,320 --> 01:36:22,760
Speaker 9: out there that they potentially face in THE.

1853
01:36:22,800 --> 01:36:25,840
Speaker 1: Afc, okay, lastly and most, importantly For colts fans that

1854
01:36:25,920 --> 01:36:27,840
Speaker 1: are going to head To Kansas city after they get

1855
01:36:27,880 --> 01:36:30,080
Speaker 1: done Reading Jesse newell in The athletic to get ready

1856
01:36:30,120 --> 01:36:31,880
Speaker 1: for the, game they want to make sure that they

1857
01:36:32,000 --> 01:36:35,280
Speaker 1: do what to soak in the atmosphere Of arrowhead or

1858
01:36:35,400 --> 01:36:37,160
Speaker 1: to enjoy the best restaurant in The Kansas city.

1859
01:36:37,240 --> 01:36:39,479
Speaker 4: Area, ah good.

1860
01:36:39,520 --> 01:36:42,000
Speaker 9: One you guys talked about The. PLAZA i actually went

1861
01:36:42,080 --> 01:36:44,320
Speaker 9: through with my wife On, monday so some good spots down.

1862
01:36:44,400 --> 01:36:48,200
Speaker 9: THERE i would, say if you're going, barbecue can't Meet

1863
01:36:48,280 --> 01:36:51,120
Speaker 9: Casey joe's OR q thirty. Nine of the two top ones,

1864
01:36:51,200 --> 01:36:53,880
Speaker 9: THERE I q thirty Nine. VERNANS i can't do much

1865
01:36:53,880 --> 01:36:54,240
Speaker 9: better than.

1866
01:36:54,280 --> 01:36:55,280
Speaker 4: That and then Till.

1867
01:36:55,320 --> 01:36:57,559
Speaker 9: Ganny just get here. Early and one of the best

1868
01:36:57,640 --> 01:36:59,720
Speaker 9: parts and actually the worst parts about my job is

1869
01:36:59,760 --> 01:37:01,479
Speaker 9: that WHEN i pull on the, LOT i have to

1870
01:37:01,600 --> 01:37:03,840
Speaker 9: go straight to the press box and avoid all the

1871
01:37:03,920 --> 01:37:06,840
Speaker 9: great smells and the people around me having accessive. Time

1872
01:37:07,000 --> 01:37:09,479
Speaker 9: so get here early and be sure to enjoy the

1873
01:37:09,760 --> 01:37:12,960
Speaker 9: sites and sounds and smells of the scenery and enjoy

1874
01:37:13,000 --> 01:37:15,599
Speaker 9: the experience The arrow and, somehow some way had become

1875
01:37:15,680 --> 01:37:17,679
Speaker 9: like the third or fourth oldest stadium in THE. Nfl

1876
01:37:17,840 --> 01:37:19,920
Speaker 9: so it's historic because of the people around it and

1877
01:37:19,960 --> 01:37:21,560
Speaker 9: because of the big deal it is around. Here so,

1878
01:37:22,200 --> 01:37:24,400
Speaker 9: yeah take that all in and we'll, SEE i think.

1879
01:37:24,439 --> 01:37:26,760
Speaker 9: It we'll see two offenses On sunday that could happen.

1880
01:37:26,800 --> 01:37:29,200
Speaker 1: Success we have seen games in the past where the

1881
01:37:29,240 --> 01:37:31,320
Speaker 1: punter didn't even have to show up between The colts

1882
01:37:31,360 --> 01:37:33,280
Speaker 1: and The. Chiefs we'll see if that happens On. Sunday

1883
01:37:33,360 --> 01:37:35,160
Speaker 1: Jesse newell and The athletic will have it all. Cover

1884
01:37:35,320 --> 01:37:36,040
Speaker 1: jesse appreciate.

1885
01:37:36,120 --> 01:37:38,679
Speaker 4: It, hey thanks, Guys Jesse.

1886
01:37:38,600 --> 01:37:40,679
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01:38:07,920 --> 01:38:10,639
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1897
01:38:10,680 --> 01:38:15,200
Speaker 1: stadium and he said third or fourth oldest stadium in THE. Nfl,

1898
01:38:15,280 --> 01:38:17,439
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1899
01:38:18,640 --> 01:38:20,800
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1900
01:38:21,120 --> 01:38:23,640
Speaker 1: age of CURRENT nfl stadiums and see if we can

1901
01:38:23,680 --> 01:38:25,720
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1902
01:38:25,880 --> 01:38:27,280
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1903
01:38:27,360 --> 01:38:29,400
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1904
01:38:29,479 --> 01:38:33,080
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1905
01:38:33,200 --> 01:38:37,360
Speaker 1: that would Be lambeau And Soldier field goes without saying

1906
01:38:38,200 --> 01:38:43,439
Speaker 1: outside of, that is? There, Okay Now i'm looking at

1907
01:38:43,479 --> 01:38:46,360
Speaker 1: the list of. Teams tell me, This, Eddie are there

1908
01:38:46,400 --> 01:38:49,200
Speaker 1: any others that are in front Of? Arrowhead or is it? Third?

1909
01:38:49,760 --> 01:38:50,320
Speaker 1: Third is?

1910
01:38:50,400 --> 01:38:50,439
Speaker 7: It?

1911
01:38:50,520 --> 01:38:53,240
Speaker 1: Really? Yeah, now number three.

1912
01:38:54,320 --> 01:38:57,400
Speaker 2: A team that they have played countless times the last three.

1913
01:38:57,479 --> 01:38:59,320
Speaker 1: Years the WAY i thought you said three was a

1914
01:38:59,360 --> 01:39:02,600
Speaker 1: ar ahead r number. Four, sorry, okay number, FOUR i

1915
01:39:02,720 --> 01:39:04,680
Speaker 1: will go. With, now hold on just a. Second i'm

1916
01:39:04,720 --> 01:39:09,000
Speaker 1: looking at the this is the age of stadiums in

1917
01:39:09,160 --> 01:39:13,720
Speaker 1: The National Football, League, okay because so many teams AND

1918
01:39:13,800 --> 01:39:15,639
Speaker 1: i have a theory on this THAT i have thrown

1919
01:39:15,680 --> 01:39:17,160
Speaker 1: out And i'm going to go over it for everybody

1920
01:39:17,200 --> 01:39:20,200
Speaker 1: again on my theory in terms of stadiums and the

1921
01:39:20,320 --> 01:39:23,040
Speaker 1: age of. Stadiums but you are telling me there's a

1922
01:39:23,120 --> 01:39:25,080
Speaker 1: team that they have played multiple. TIMES i will go

1923
01:39:25,200 --> 01:39:29,040
Speaker 1: actually with The Tennessee titans that The chiefs have played

1924
01:39:29,040 --> 01:39:31,479
Speaker 1: in the last. YEAR i thought you said The colts

1925
01:39:31,520 --> 01:39:36,280
Speaker 1: have played The. Chiefs, Oh, buffalo that would be, Correct, yeah, yeah,

1926
01:39:36,320 --> 01:39:39,000
Speaker 1: yeah because they're obviously getting ready to move out of.

1927
01:39:39,000 --> 01:39:42,639
Speaker 2: That nineteen seventy two For Arrowhead, stadium New Ara field

1928
01:39:42,680 --> 01:39:45,439
Speaker 2: now High Mark, stadium nineteen seventy three.

1929
01:39:45,400 --> 01:39:47,280
Speaker 1: For, Buffalo, okay and then who's after?

1930
01:39:47,400 --> 01:39:51,719
Speaker 2: That that would be in nineteen seventy Five Mercedes Benz Super.

1931
01:39:51,760 --> 01:39:53,639
Speaker 1: Dome OH i should have thought of. That, yeah, yeah,

1932
01:39:53,640 --> 01:39:56,880
Speaker 1: okay the. Same so a couple of things. Here if

1933
01:39:56,920 --> 01:40:02,080
Speaker 1: you look at what the year did The chargers And

1934
01:40:02,320 --> 01:40:06,519
Speaker 1: rams both returned To Los? Angeles which of The rams

1935
01:40:06,560 --> 01:40:09,040
Speaker 1: were the? First? Right when did The rams Leave Saint

1936
01:40:09,120 --> 01:40:12,000
Speaker 1: louis and go To Los? Angeles Sofi stadium opened in

1937
01:40:12,120 --> 01:40:15,040
Speaker 1: twenty Twenty, okay the same year As Allegiate stadium for The.

1938
01:40:15,160 --> 01:40:18,000
Speaker 1: Raiders but what is that the year that They what

1939
01:40:18,200 --> 01:40:21,880
Speaker 1: year did The rams move TO la though Not Sofi,

1940
01:40:21,960 --> 01:40:26,360
Speaker 1: stadium but just moved back TO la had to have

1941
01:40:26,479 --> 01:40:30,280
Speaker 1: been when they Left Saint louis would have been what

1942
01:40:30,479 --> 01:40:37,080
Speaker 1: Year i'm guessing mid twenty. Ten it all runs together

1943
01:40:37,120 --> 01:40:41,640
Speaker 1: to me after, that but either, way Here i'll look it.

1944
01:40:41,720 --> 01:40:44,680
Speaker 1: UP i am looking it up right. Now but if

1945
01:40:44,760 --> 01:40:49,599
Speaker 1: you look at here's my theory on stadiums And Los

1946
01:40:49,640 --> 01:40:53,200
Speaker 1: angeles in. Particular, OKAY i mean twenty, nineteen the year. Before,

1947
01:40:53,479 --> 01:40:58,719
Speaker 1: okay there is a. Reason So i'm going to guess

1948
01:40:58,760 --> 01:41:04,439
Speaker 1: that The rams Left Los angeles and The raiders Left Los.

1949
01:41:04,479 --> 01:41:07,880
Speaker 1: Angeles The raiders obviously went back To. OAKLAND la was

1950
01:41:08,040 --> 01:41:11,120
Speaker 1: vacant by like the early two, thousands, Okay.

1951
01:41:13,040 --> 01:41:13,680
Speaker 4: And there was.

1952
01:41:13,840 --> 01:41:19,720
Speaker 1: Discussion i've mentioned this several, TIMES i, realize but there

1953
01:41:19,840 --> 01:41:26,600
Speaker 1: was rumor in the twenty tens there was like this

1954
01:41:27,040 --> 01:41:31,080
Speaker 1: this undercurrent rumor In indianapolis That Los angeles was a

1955
01:41:31,160 --> 01:41:33,479
Speaker 1: place that The colts could end up if they didn't

1956
01:41:33,520 --> 01:41:36,040
Speaker 1: get a new. Stadium and that's When Bill polline had,

1957
01:41:36,120 --> 01:41:40,800
Speaker 1: said we're at a disadvantage in this market because of

1958
01:41:41,080 --> 01:41:44,080
Speaker 1: THE Rca, dome and we're, handcuffed and we, really if

1959
01:41:44,080 --> 01:41:47,560
Speaker 1: we want to be, competitive need a new. Stadium and

1960
01:41:49,160 --> 01:41:53,240
Speaker 1: while admittedly The COLTS i never Heard Pete ward Say Los,

1961
01:41:53,280 --> 01:41:56,720
Speaker 1: ANGELES i never Heard Jim mersey himself outwardly Say Los.

1962
01:41:56,760 --> 01:42:02,960
Speaker 1: Angeles it was other, narrative other conversation and national speculation

1963
01:42:03,479 --> 01:42:06,320
Speaker 1: That Los angeles was a place The colts could end

1964
01:42:06,400 --> 01:42:13,080
Speaker 1: up and the in different time, periods the rumor had

1965
01:42:13,120 --> 01:42:16,440
Speaker 1: always been that The league would be interested in purchasing

1966
01:42:16,560 --> 01:42:19,000
Speaker 1: The colts away From jim mersay if some Of Jim

1967
01:42:19,080 --> 01:42:23,400
Speaker 1: mersey's indiscretions were not, addressed which they, were but that

1968
01:42:23,479 --> 01:42:25,720
Speaker 1: the league would be interested in purchasing The colts and

1969
01:42:25,880 --> 01:42:29,000
Speaker 1: moving them To Los angeles as a league owned. Franchise,

1970
01:42:29,400 --> 01:42:31,559
Speaker 1: okay that was always the rumor that was out. THERE

1971
01:42:32,080 --> 01:42:35,719
Speaker 1: i never bought into. THAT i always thought that was complete,

1972
01:42:35,800 --> 01:42:39,680
Speaker 1: malarkey hogwash. Bs And i'll tell you. Why if you

1973
01:42:39,760 --> 01:42:42,920
Speaker 1: look at the time in which The rams ended The

1974
01:42:43,040 --> 01:42:46,560
Speaker 1: raiders both had Vacated Los, angeles and you had television

1975
01:42:46,640 --> 01:42:50,920
Speaker 1: market number, two massive metropolitan area sixteen and a half

1976
01:42:50,960 --> 01:42:54,680
Speaker 1: million people in The La metro area multiple stadiums that

1977
01:42:54,720 --> 01:42:57,519
Speaker 1: could host, teams The coliseum obviously being one of, them

1978
01:42:57,880 --> 01:43:01,559
Speaker 1: The Rose bowl being one of, them and yet they were,

1979
01:43:01,640 --> 01:43:05,760
Speaker 1: vacant and THE nfl was not In Los, angeles and

1980
01:43:05,880 --> 01:43:09,400
Speaker 1: there was always the rumor that named the team and

1981
01:43:09,520 --> 01:43:10,800
Speaker 1: it was, like you, know they could go TO. La

1982
01:43:12,479 --> 01:43:15,800
Speaker 1: but here's the caveat THAT i think has often. Overlooked

1983
01:43:18,200 --> 01:43:22,560
Speaker 1: when The Baltimore colts moved From baltimore To, indianapolis it

1984
01:43:22,720 --> 01:43:26,560
Speaker 1: was so unpopular amongst the. Owners Bob ursay was not

1985
01:43:26,640 --> 01:43:31,120
Speaker 1: well liked by his fellow, owners just Wasn't And Jim

1986
01:43:31,160 --> 01:43:33,400
Speaker 1: mersay was resented by a lot of owners for a

1987
01:43:33,479 --> 01:43:38,400
Speaker 1: long time because most of THE nfl owners had business

1988
01:43:38,600 --> 01:43:41,920
Speaker 1: enterprise above and beyond Their National Football league, franchise AND

1989
01:43:42,000 --> 01:43:43,599
Speaker 1: i think there were a lot of them that resented

1990
01:43:43,640 --> 01:43:47,439
Speaker 1: the fact That Jim irsay was given a franchise and

1991
01:43:47,640 --> 01:43:51,880
Speaker 1: never had to work for an outside business. Enterprise and

1992
01:43:52,840 --> 01:43:56,679
Speaker 1: Yet jim rsy grew into then becoming a very popular

1993
01:43:56,760 --> 01:43:58,720
Speaker 1: owner because he was the owner that was willing to

1994
01:43:58,760 --> 01:44:02,759
Speaker 1: stand up and be the face of ownership on subject

1995
01:44:02,840 --> 01:44:05,839
Speaker 1: matter that oftentimes the others wanted to hide. From Daniel

1996
01:44:05,880 --> 01:44:08,680
Speaker 1: snyder being a key. Point it Was Jim ursay that

1997
01:44:08,760 --> 01:44:11,559
Speaker 1: spoke up and said this can't be. Tolerated we need

1998
01:44:11,640 --> 01:44:14,320
Speaker 1: to make a change. Here and he he said the

1999
01:44:14,400 --> 01:44:17,160
Speaker 1: quiet part out, loud AND i think owners appreciated. That

2000
01:44:17,680 --> 01:44:21,200
Speaker 1: but When Bob ursay moved in nineteen eighty four From

2001
01:44:21,240 --> 01:44:24,840
Speaker 1: baltimore To, indianapolis it was not a well liked move

2002
01:44:25,000 --> 01:44:28,240
Speaker 1: amongst most owners in The National Football. League and interestingly,

2003
01:44:28,360 --> 01:44:31,719
Speaker 1: Enough Bob ursay originally had bought The Los Angeles rams

2004
01:44:32,200 --> 01:44:34,759
Speaker 1: and then traded them With Carol rosenbloom for The Baltimore.

2005
01:44:34,800 --> 01:44:38,599
Speaker 1: Colts but when he Moved baltimore To, indianapolis the league

2006
01:44:38,800 --> 01:44:41,479
Speaker 1: then the owners of The National Football league and at that,

2007
01:44:41,560 --> 01:44:44,320
Speaker 1: TIME i think it was twenty eight, teams but they

2008
01:44:44,400 --> 01:44:48,559
Speaker 1: got together and, said moving here, forward the Bober say,

2009
01:44:48,720 --> 01:44:52,320
Speaker 1: rule if you want to move your franchise from one

2010
01:44:52,400 --> 01:44:55,880
Speaker 1: city to the, next you need eighty percent approval from

2011
01:44:55,920 --> 01:44:58,920
Speaker 1: the rest of the. League when The rams moved From

2012
01:44:58,960 --> 01:45:01,960
Speaker 1: Los angeles To Saint, louis they needed to get approval

2013
01:45:02,040 --> 01:45:05,160
Speaker 1: from eighty percent of the other owners in order to

2014
01:45:05,200 --> 01:45:08,240
Speaker 1: make that. Move, now other owners were okay With Los

2015
01:45:08,280 --> 01:45:11,439
Speaker 1: angeles being, vacant because, Now, eddie do you still have

2016
01:45:11,520 --> 01:45:15,080
Speaker 1: that list in front of you of stadiums within THE. Nfl,

2017
01:45:15,280 --> 01:45:18,120
Speaker 1: yes how many of them were built after twenty, ten

2018
01:45:18,479 --> 01:45:23,479
Speaker 1: probably half right after twenty. Ten when Was when Was minnesota's? Built?

2019
01:45:24,360 --> 01:45:27,839
Speaker 2: Minus, oh that WAS Us Bank stadium in twenty. Sixteen,

2020
01:45:27,880 --> 01:45:32,800
Speaker 2: okay when Was Ford field? Built the Live field was

2021
01:45:32,920 --> 01:45:36,920
Speaker 2: before twenty, ten but after two thousand and, two.

2022
01:45:36,840 --> 01:45:38,960
Speaker 1: After the two, thousands after the in the two, thousands

2023
01:45:39,000 --> 01:45:43,360
Speaker 1: basically getting when Was tampa? Built tampa was.

2024
01:45:44,920 --> 01:45:47,760
Speaker 2: Nineteen ninety, eight nineteen ninety eight For Raymond James.

2025
01:45:47,800 --> 01:45:51,200
Speaker 1: Stadium, okay when was and obviously that would be right

2026
01:45:51,200 --> 01:45:53,040
Speaker 1: around them would Be, carolina right because that was a

2027
01:45:53,120 --> 01:45:57,599
Speaker 1: new stadium obviously nineteen ninety. Six in, teams but teams

2028
01:45:57,640 --> 01:46:02,040
Speaker 1: that at any, point my point being, this at any

2029
01:46:02,160 --> 01:46:04,360
Speaker 1: point during the time that there was no team in

2030
01:46:04,439 --> 01:46:09,040
Speaker 1: The Los angeles, market you always had at least twenty

2031
01:46:09,120 --> 01:46:13,040
Speaker 1: percent of the owners that were in need of an

2032
01:46:13,120 --> 01:46:18,120
Speaker 1: upgrade to their, stadium a rebuild of luxury box, suites

2033
01:46:18,960 --> 01:46:22,960
Speaker 1: or need for a new stadium. Altogether and so when

2034
01:46:23,240 --> 01:46:28,920
Speaker 1: and with those aspects in, mind at any point there

2035
01:46:28,960 --> 01:46:33,160
Speaker 1: were going to be and all you needed was essentially

2036
01:46:33,640 --> 01:46:35,679
Speaker 1: if you look at, it if you needed twenty. Percent

2037
01:46:35,840 --> 01:46:39,040
Speaker 1: all you needed was basically seven owners to block a.

2038
01:46:39,200 --> 01:46:44,280
Speaker 1: Move at any point that somebody talked about or flirted

2039
01:46:44,320 --> 01:46:46,519
Speaker 1: with the idea of moving To Los, angeles it was

2040
01:46:46,720 --> 01:46:49,559
Speaker 1: never going to happen and never in possibility because there

2041
01:46:49,600 --> 01:46:52,719
Speaker 1: were always at least seven owners that wanted that trump

2042
01:46:52,840 --> 01:46:56,479
Speaker 1: card Of Los angeles as their leverage against their market

2043
01:46:56,600 --> 01:46:59,160
Speaker 1: to get more money for a new, stadium or for

2044
01:46:59,200 --> 01:47:02,280
Speaker 1: an upgrade or for improved to their. Stadium and it

2045
01:47:02,439 --> 01:47:05,799
Speaker 1: was not until if you, look you, said The rams

2046
01:47:05,960 --> 01:47:11,040
Speaker 1: moved in twenty, nineteen, right, yes that was once and

2047
01:47:11,200 --> 01:47:15,120
Speaker 1: wait for it. Here that was. Once The seahawks had

2048
01:47:15,160 --> 01:47:17,840
Speaker 1: gotten a new, Stadium The vikings had gotten a new.

2049
01:47:17,920 --> 01:47:22,000
Speaker 1: Stadium The chiefs had gotten upgrades To, arrowhead The bears

2050
01:47:22,040 --> 01:47:25,439
Speaker 1: had gotten upgrades To Soldier Field, Stadium colts had gotten

2051
01:47:25,439 --> 01:47:28,160
Speaker 1: a new. Stadium The niners had gotten a new. Stadium

2052
01:47:28,560 --> 01:47:32,040
Speaker 1: The falcons had gotten a new. Stadium, cowboys The cowboys

2053
01:47:32,080 --> 01:47:34,599
Speaker 1: had gotten a new. Stadium The jets had gotten a new,

2054
01:47:34,640 --> 01:47:38,120
Speaker 1: Stadium The giants had gotten a new. Stadium The dolphins

2055
01:47:38,160 --> 01:47:42,400
Speaker 1: had gotten a new. Stadium you always had those. Teams

2056
01:47:42,720 --> 01:47:45,400
Speaker 1: once everybody was taken care, of then it was, like,

2057
01:47:45,560 --> 01:47:48,920
Speaker 1: okay let's get a show of. Hands everybody got what

2058
01:47:49,040 --> 01:47:51,320
Speaker 1: you need from your local. Market everybody got what you

2059
01:47:51,400 --> 01:47:54,280
Speaker 1: need from your. Taxpayers everybody got what you need from corporate.

2060
01:47:54,280 --> 01:47:58,639
Speaker 1: Sponsors All, Right we're. Good, COOL la open for. Business

2061
01:48:00,360 --> 01:48:04,280
Speaker 1: right back TO La, chargers up TO La. Done it

2062
01:48:04,439 --> 01:48:06,920
Speaker 1: was never going to. Happen and anybody that tells you

2063
01:48:07,040 --> 01:48:09,160
Speaker 1: that The colts in any, way shape or, form had

2064
01:48:09,240 --> 01:48:13,200
Speaker 1: any chance of moving To Los angeles complete complete. Fiction,

2065
01:48:13,600 --> 01:48:16,360
Speaker 1: now other QUESTION i have is, This and this is

2066
01:48:16,800 --> 01:48:19,240
Speaker 1: a rhetorical Question i've asked, before but it's the kind

2067
01:48:19,280 --> 01:48:21,080
Speaker 1: of thing that keeps me up at night and When

2068
01:48:21,080 --> 01:48:22,840
Speaker 1: i'm staring at the ceiling at three forty eight in

2069
01:48:22,880 --> 01:48:24,760
Speaker 1: the morning during a brain. DROPPING i go over this

2070
01:48:24,960 --> 01:48:27,599
Speaker 1: every single time trying to get myself to fall. Asleep

2071
01:48:27,880 --> 01:48:32,479
Speaker 1: and that is what is the age that a stadium

2072
01:48:32,640 --> 01:48:35,519
Speaker 1: transfers and makes the. Move all of, us when we

2073
01:48:35,600 --> 01:48:39,160
Speaker 1: were teenagers had, acne had, braces had a head, gear

2074
01:48:40,120 --> 01:48:45,320
Speaker 1: gangly awkward, looking hadn't. Developed every stadium goes through that as.

2075
01:48:45,360 --> 01:48:48,200
Speaker 1: Well what is the transfer of year between when a

2076
01:48:48,280 --> 01:48:51,320
Speaker 1: stadium goes from being a complete teet DOWN i can't

2077
01:48:51,360 --> 01:48:56,320
Speaker 1: stand this place dump to holy cow bucket, list gotta go, nostalgic,

2078
01:48:56,680 --> 01:49:00,479
Speaker 1: awesome historic, venue great, QUESTION i. AM i sure Because Fenway,

2079
01:49:00,560 --> 01:49:03,840
Speaker 1: Park Wrigley. Field everybody now wants to go because they're,

2080
01:49:03,880 --> 01:49:06,080
Speaker 1: like oh my, gosh it's so. Awesome they're like these

2081
01:49:06,240 --> 01:49:09,519
Speaker 1: old chen, sea broken down wooden seats that are literally

2082
01:49:09,680 --> 01:49:13,040
Speaker 1: like my left cheek barely sits in. It and Yet

2083
01:49:13,040 --> 01:49:14,639
Speaker 1: i'm supposed to sit in the whole, thing and it's

2084
01:49:14,720 --> 01:49:18,400
Speaker 1: like sitting in the back worst part of A Spirit

2085
01:49:18,520 --> 01:49:20,920
Speaker 1: airlines coach. Seat But i'm willing to sit in it

2086
01:49:20,960 --> 01:49:22,759
Speaker 1: because it's wouldn't and even Though i've got a splinter

2087
01:49:22,840 --> 01:49:25,280
Speaker 1: now in my. Hamstring it's cool because it's an age

2088
01:49:25,320 --> 01:49:27,320
Speaker 1: old stadium and there's a chance that like some kids

2089
01:49:27,320 --> 01:49:30,479
Speaker 1: sat here and Watched Babe ruth or Watch Dirnie. Banks

2090
01:49:31,040 --> 01:49:33,120
Speaker 1: AND i love everything about it because it's historic and

2091
01:49:33,200 --> 01:49:37,120
Speaker 1: it's The Indianapolis Motor speedway Of baseball Or Lambeau i've

2092
01:49:37,160 --> 01:49:39,080
Speaker 1: got to go because it's awesome And Bart starr and

2093
01:49:39,080 --> 01:49:41,040
Speaker 1: The Ice bowl took place there and it's. Awesome it's

2094
01:49:41,080 --> 01:49:44,639
Speaker 1: cool and, whatever the frozen tundra exactly Of Lambeau, field,

2095
01:49:44,680 --> 01:49:46,560
Speaker 1: RIGHT i gotta go. There Soldier field looks like a

2096
01:49:46,600 --> 01:49:48,960
Speaker 1: spaceship landed on. It, whatever but it's got the columns up.

2097
01:49:48,960 --> 01:49:52,200
Speaker 1: Front gotta see it cool Be Walter payton broke the record,

2098
01:49:52,240 --> 01:49:55,519
Speaker 1: there historic. Venue Dick buckets played. There but at some

2099
01:49:55,720 --> 01:49:57,880
Speaker 1: point all of those stadiums people had to, say well

2100
01:49:57,920 --> 01:50:00,920
Speaker 1: this place a. Dump Isn't chicago getting a new. Stadium

2101
01:50:01,439 --> 01:50:05,000
Speaker 1: they've been rumored that for like ten, years going To,

2102
01:50:05,080 --> 01:50:07,479
Speaker 1: schomberg going to the you know they're gonna go with

2103
01:50:07,560 --> 01:50:10,960
Speaker 1: The White sox To. NASHVILLE i, Mean i'm being facetious

2104
01:50:10,960 --> 01:50:12,479
Speaker 1: there At nashville as a, team but you get What i'm.

2105
01:50:12,479 --> 01:50:15,720
Speaker 1: Saying i've already wanted that, Though like what is the

2106
01:50:15,840 --> 01:50:19,400
Speaker 1: age you know in this? Town AND i could do

2107
01:50:19,479 --> 01:50:22,400
Speaker 1: it an Entire MAYBE i should just do some podcasts

2108
01:50:22,439 --> 01:50:25,040
Speaker 1: some day on the evolution Of Market squaring Into Gambridge

2109
01:50:25,080 --> 01:50:28,799
Speaker 1: fieldhouse and the brilliance that The pacers had in getting

2110
01:50:28,880 --> 01:50:31,400
Speaker 1: that pulled. Off but once you went To Gambridge Field,

2111
01:50:31,439 --> 01:50:34,120
Speaker 1: house which is a fabulous facility and it looks the

2112
01:50:34,160 --> 01:50:35,640
Speaker 1: same as it did the day it, opened and it

2113
01:50:35,760 --> 01:50:37,840
Speaker 1: is still the gold standard in THE. Nba but there

2114
01:50:37,920 --> 01:50:39,560
Speaker 1: are still people that go to it and they're, like you,

2115
01:50:39,600 --> 01:50:41,840
Speaker 1: know deep, DOWN i do kind of MISS. Msa but

2116
01:50:41,920 --> 01:50:43,960
Speaker 1: IF msa was still there right, now people would say

2117
01:50:44,000 --> 01:50:46,559
Speaker 1: this place is a dump and we need there are

2118
01:50:46,600 --> 01:50:48,639
Speaker 1: not enough, suits and there's not a restaurant and everything.

2119
01:50:48,680 --> 01:50:52,560
Speaker 1: Else it's A it's literally like a circular thing that

2120
01:50:52,680 --> 01:50:55,680
Speaker 1: goes through my mind of contemplation that keeps me awake at.

2121
01:50:55,760 --> 01:50:57,920
Speaker 1: Night this is why YESTERDAY i was able to sleep

2122
01:50:57,960 --> 01:50:59,800
Speaker 1: for thirteen hours BECAUSE i hadn't slept in three days.

2123
01:50:59,800 --> 01:51:03,040
Speaker 1: Before Matt taylor joins. Us voice of The. Colts, Next

2124
01:51:05,520 --> 01:51:07,600
Speaker 1: Matt taylor is The voice of The colts joins. Us

2125
01:51:07,640 --> 01:51:09,519
Speaker 1: now in The Java, House peel and Poor Guest Line

2126
01:51:09,600 --> 01:51:13,280
Speaker 1: colts And chiefs coming up On sunday At arrowhead And,

2127
01:51:13,320 --> 01:51:15,880
Speaker 1: MATT i realized that you talked to the guys WHEN

2128
01:51:15,920 --> 01:51:19,960
Speaker 1: i was. Gone But i'm curious of, this strictly curious

2129
01:51:20,000 --> 01:51:23,200
Speaker 1: BECAUSE i went through it. Yesterday when you came back From,

2130
01:51:23,280 --> 01:51:25,720
Speaker 1: germany you were jet lagged for how?

2131
01:51:25,800 --> 01:51:29,240
Speaker 4: Long not too, bad to be honest with.

2132
01:51:29,360 --> 01:51:33,120
Speaker 5: You to, me the experience is way tougher going there

2133
01:51:33,240 --> 01:51:34,479
Speaker 5: than it is coming, back.

2134
01:51:34,479 --> 01:51:36,120
Speaker 1: For, sure there's no question about.

2135
01:51:36,160 --> 01:51:38,560
Speaker 5: That, yeah you, know so like when we, landed it was,

2136
01:51:38,680 --> 01:51:41,960
Speaker 5: Hard so you, know from an itinerary. Standpoint we got

2137
01:51:42,000 --> 01:51:45,360
Speaker 5: there AT i think we Landed Friday german time at

2138
01:51:45,400 --> 01:51:50,080
Speaker 5: ten thirty and then got to the, hotel settled in about,

2139
01:51:50,200 --> 01:51:52,880
Speaker 5: one and then had to be on a bus by

2140
01:51:53,040 --> 01:51:56,040
Speaker 5: three and go to practice and then you, know do

2141
01:51:56,160 --> 01:51:59,960
Speaker 5: media availability and some stuff after. That so Like thursday

2142
01:52:00,040 --> 01:52:02,280
Speaker 5: day back in The states and Then friday In germany

2143
01:52:02,479 --> 01:52:05,240
Speaker 5: was like one big, day like one big time. WORK

2144
01:52:05,479 --> 01:52:07,960
Speaker 5: i THINK i was awake, LIKE i don't, know like

2145
01:52:08,960 --> 01:52:12,160
Speaker 5: forty four out of the forty eight hours in that time.

2146
01:52:12,240 --> 01:52:14,680
Speaker 5: Span it felt like so to, me you just had

2147
01:52:14,720 --> 01:52:21,240
Speaker 5: to grind, through you, Know friday In germany to then

2148
01:52:21,400 --> 01:52:24,080
Speaker 5: go to bed at a normal, Time german. Time that's

2149
01:52:24,120 --> 01:52:26,760
Speaker 5: always the key to. Success so it was painful On.

2150
01:52:26,920 --> 01:52:30,200
Speaker 5: Friday but ONCE i woke Up Saturday german, TIME i

2151
01:52:30,360 --> 01:52:31,800
Speaker 5: was pretty much, OKAY i felt.

2152
01:52:31,880 --> 01:52:35,920
Speaker 1: Normal, OKAY i would agree with. That the. Thing here's

2153
01:52:35,960 --> 01:52:37,560
Speaker 1: what happened to me, Though AND i don't know what

2154
01:52:37,640 --> 01:52:41,720
Speaker 1: time you guys flew, back BUT i flew. Back AND

2155
01:52:41,800 --> 01:52:43,760
Speaker 1: i Guess i'm saying this just if anybody's, gonna you,

2156
01:52:43,800 --> 01:52:46,760
Speaker 1: know is planning a, trip the strategy of. It when

2157
01:52:46,800 --> 01:52:49,679
Speaker 1: we came, back we flew back in daylight, hours which

2158
01:52:49,760 --> 01:52:51,720
Speaker 1: is pretty cool because you get back and it's like

2159
01:52:51,840 --> 01:52:54,960
Speaker 1: seven o'clock in the evening here In, indie and so you're, like,

2160
01:52:55,000 --> 01:52:56,400
Speaker 1: okay you, Know i'll stay up for two hours and

2161
01:52:56,400 --> 01:52:58,800
Speaker 1: then go to. Bed the problem IS i went to

2162
01:52:58,880 --> 01:53:01,639
Speaker 1: bed and was dog. Tie but then my body woke

2163
01:53:01,760 --> 01:53:03,280
Speaker 1: up at like four o'clock in the morning BECAUSE i

2164
01:53:03,320 --> 01:53:04,760
Speaker 1: thought it was ten in the morning over, there and

2165
01:53:04,880 --> 01:53:09,240
Speaker 1: it took me yesterday, then so it took me a day, basically,

2166
01:53:10,200 --> 01:53:10,519
Speaker 1: Yeah AND.

2167
01:53:10,680 --> 01:53:12,599
Speaker 5: I think what HAD i think what went in our

2168
01:53:12,680 --> 01:53:15,840
Speaker 5: favor was we left after the, game and so about

2169
01:53:15,920 --> 01:53:19,200
Speaker 5: midway through the flight coming home From, germany like in

2170
01:53:19,240 --> 01:53:21,920
Speaker 5: the middle of the Night german, TIME i was pretty.

2171
01:53:22,000 --> 01:53:24,080
Speaker 5: WIPE i was pretty. POOKED i started to get real,

2172
01:53:24,200 --> 01:53:27,640
Speaker 5: tired AND i don't sleep very well on, planes so

2173
01:53:27,760 --> 01:53:29,280
Speaker 5: IF i was in and out of, sleep.

2174
01:53:29,560 --> 01:53:31,360
Speaker 4: You, know it wasn't good, sleep you know WHAT i, Mean,

2175
01:53:31,439 --> 01:53:31,960
Speaker 4: like it wasn't.

2176
01:53:32,880 --> 01:53:36,760
Speaker 5: Solid and so by the TIME i got, home which

2177
01:53:36,800 --> 01:53:39,640
Speaker 5: we LANDED i think like a twelve thirty and then

2178
01:53:39,720 --> 01:53:42,040
Speaker 5: had to you, know bust to the back of the

2179
01:53:42,120 --> 01:53:44,519
Speaker 5: complex and get back in the. Car SO i THINK

2180
01:53:44,560 --> 01:53:47,000
Speaker 5: i got back to the driveway my house at two,

2181
01:53:47,160 --> 01:53:50,240
Speaker 5: am and so by that, time LIKE i was ready

2182
01:53:50,280 --> 01:53:51,960
Speaker 5: to go to, bed AND i was tired, Anyway so

2183
01:53:52,080 --> 01:53:55,920
Speaker 5: LIKE i felt LIKE i was pretty pretty close to

2184
01:53:56,080 --> 01:53:59,000
Speaker 5: like getting back on the Normal eastern time body clock

2185
01:53:59,120 --> 01:54:00,960
Speaker 5: by like a half a day or a full day after.

2186
01:54:01,080 --> 01:54:03,760
Speaker 1: That, yeah it. Is it's it, is wild. Man the

2187
01:54:03,840 --> 01:54:06,240
Speaker 1: time change is a thing right, now and obviously for The,

2188
01:54:06,280 --> 01:54:08,800
Speaker 1: colts they're back at it now for the first time

2189
01:54:08,880 --> 01:54:13,840
Speaker 1: since taking On Kansas. City we just talked With Jesse

2190
01:54:13,960 --> 01:54:16,120
Speaker 1: newell from The athletic In Kansas. City from The chiefs

2191
01:54:16,240 --> 01:54:18,479
Speaker 1: side of, Things let's begin from The coult side of

2192
01:54:18,560 --> 01:54:21,960
Speaker 1: things with This matt from a health, standpoint they had

2193
01:54:22,080 --> 01:54:25,120
Speaker 1: the time away to try to get. Healthy. Here where

2194
01:54:25,160 --> 01:54:27,519
Speaker 1: do things stand in terms of who may be in

2195
01:54:28,240 --> 01:54:29,280
Speaker 1: who has recently been.

2196
01:54:29,360 --> 01:54:32,680
Speaker 5: Out, yeah the biggest one Is Charvarius sward and another

2197
01:54:32,760 --> 01:54:35,000
Speaker 5: good sign today he was out there at least in

2198
01:54:35,080 --> 01:54:37,880
Speaker 5: the media portion of practice, today you know the portion

2199
01:54:38,000 --> 01:54:40,720
Speaker 5: where you know reporters can see he was out there

2200
01:54:40,800 --> 01:54:43,720
Speaker 5: and yesterday was full go and then was out there.

2201
01:54:43,760 --> 01:54:46,360
Speaker 5: Today we'll see what the designation is later on. Today

2202
01:54:46,800 --> 01:54:49,840
Speaker 5: hopefully it's another full ghost status and trending in the

2203
01:54:49,920 --> 01:54:53,520
Speaker 5: right direction to maybe tomorrow or at the very Latest,

2204
01:54:53,560 --> 01:54:56,960
Speaker 5: saturday being cleared to come off of injured reserve with that.

2205
01:54:57,080 --> 01:54:59,720
Speaker 5: Concussion but he's got to you, know clear all the

2206
01:54:59,800 --> 01:55:02,520
Speaker 5: net necessary steps and things like, that so you know

2207
01:55:02,640 --> 01:55:05,160
Speaker 5: that's always kind of. Finicky but but he's the big, One.

2208
01:55:05,280 --> 01:55:09,200
Speaker 5: Jake you, Know Taekwon lewis is still dealing with an,

2209
01:55:09,240 --> 01:55:13,080
Speaker 5: injury and he's been kind of a guy that would

2210
01:55:13,160 --> 01:55:15,360
Speaker 5: kind of you, know based on the injury reports and the,

2211
01:55:15,480 --> 01:55:19,520
Speaker 5: designations and he's had like a little bit of a start,

2212
01:55:19,640 --> 01:55:21,840
Speaker 5: stop you, know where he'd practice in full the next,

2213
01:55:21,920 --> 01:55:25,160
Speaker 5: day would not practice or be limited in. Practice it's

2214
01:55:25,240 --> 01:55:28,800
Speaker 5: kind of been fluid on his. Return Samson abacom has

2215
01:55:28,800 --> 01:55:30,920
Speaker 5: a decent chance of coming back this. Week he's missed

2216
01:55:30,920 --> 01:55:33,440
Speaker 5: the last three games with the knee. Injury so those

2217
01:55:33,480 --> 01:55:35,600
Speaker 5: are the big, ones BUT i think the biggest one

2218
01:55:35,800 --> 01:55:40,040
Speaker 5: Is ward just because of the potential and the excitement

2219
01:55:40,120 --> 01:55:43,920
Speaker 5: on what that secondary could be With gardner And Traverius

2220
01:55:44,040 --> 01:55:47,600
Speaker 5: ward And Kenny moore playing the, slot especially in the

2221
01:55:47,680 --> 01:55:50,560
Speaker 5: last seven, games and then you started This sunday against

2222
01:55:50,600 --> 01:55:53,920
Speaker 5: the premier quarterback And Patrick mahomes and what you would

2223
01:55:54,000 --> 01:55:56,240
Speaker 5: need to be able to slow down a guy like

2224
01:55:56,360 --> 01:55:56,840
Speaker 5: that and that.

2225
01:55:57,040 --> 01:55:58,480
Speaker 4: Offense it's.

2226
01:55:58,520 --> 01:56:02,800
Speaker 5: EXCITING i think we're starting arding TO i think we're

2227
01:56:02,840 --> 01:56:04,200
Speaker 5: getting the, previews.

2228
01:56:03,720 --> 01:56:03,960
Speaker 4: You know WHAT i.

2229
01:56:04,040 --> 01:56:06,880
Speaker 5: Mean like if this was a movie, trailer this would

2230
01:56:06,920 --> 01:56:09,320
Speaker 5: be the trailer of the of the feature film here

2231
01:56:09,680 --> 01:56:11,960
Speaker 5: on what the secondary could be after The colts have

2232
01:56:12,040 --> 01:56:14,400
Speaker 5: wanted it to be like this the entire, season.

2233
01:56:14,440 --> 01:56:17,880
Speaker 1: Which to, You, matt do you believe is a bigger

2234
01:56:18,000 --> 01:56:20,560
Speaker 1: area Of i'm going to use the word concern kind

2235
01:56:20,560 --> 01:56:23,720
Speaker 1: of an air quotes, Here, okay intrigue maybe is a better.

2236
01:56:23,800 --> 01:56:28,480
Speaker 1: Word The colts ability to Protect Daniel jones or The

2237
01:56:28,560 --> 01:56:30,560
Speaker 1: colt's ability to try to get To Patrick.

2238
01:56:30,640 --> 01:56:34,400
Speaker 4: MAHOMES i, think, wow that's a great.

2239
01:56:34,480 --> 01:56:38,640
Speaker 5: QUESTION i think as it relates to this, game it's

2240
01:56:38,840 --> 01:56:43,160
Speaker 5: getting After Patrick mahomes and they have done, that you.

2241
01:56:43,240 --> 01:56:46,400
Speaker 5: KNOW i know this is a different regime and a

2242
01:56:46,480 --> 01:56:49,480
Speaker 5: different defensive coordinator in Lou An, rumo, who by the,

2243
01:56:49,480 --> 01:56:52,840
Speaker 5: way has had great individual success in his own right

2244
01:56:52,880 --> 01:56:56,160
Speaker 5: Against Patrick. Mahomes he's faced them six, Times he's three and,

2245
01:56:56,320 --> 01:57:00,760
Speaker 5: three including AN Afc championship victory in that in that sample,

2246
01:57:00,880 --> 01:57:04,560
Speaker 5: size but The colts have done a really good job

2247
01:57:05,440 --> 01:57:08,960
Speaker 5: when they play a quarterback like. This they have really

2248
01:57:09,840 --> 01:57:13,960
Speaker 5: good lane rush lane. Integrity and the key when you

2249
01:57:14,160 --> 01:57:16,520
Speaker 5: when you Face Patrick mahomes is don't.

2250
01:57:16,360 --> 01:57:17,080
Speaker 4: Let him out of the.

2251
01:57:17,160 --> 01:57:20,320
Speaker 5: Pocket right he's The he's got the fifth most scrambles

2252
01:57:20,360 --> 01:57:23,320
Speaker 5: in THE nfl this, year and he we we watch

2253
01:57:23,400 --> 01:57:25,760
Speaker 5: him Every sunday because they're always in prime. Time they

2254
01:57:25,760 --> 01:57:28,760
Speaker 5: always have the marquee, game whether It's sunday Or. Monday

2255
01:57:28,840 --> 01:57:30,920
Speaker 5: he's always out of the pocket and he turns everything

2256
01:57:31,000 --> 01:57:34,360
Speaker 5: in the backyard football and he's slinging you, know uh

2257
01:57:34,680 --> 01:57:38,120
Speaker 5: passes underhand and side arm and from different you, know

2258
01:57:38,280 --> 01:57:41,080
Speaker 5: arm locations and things like. That he's just a really, good,

2259
01:57:41,800 --> 01:57:45,080
Speaker 5: savvy off schedule type of a. Quarterback so don't give

2260
01:57:45,160 --> 01:57:48,160
Speaker 5: him those. Opportunities get after. Him and it's not you

2261
01:57:48,200 --> 01:57:49,400
Speaker 5: don't have to sack them five.

2262
01:57:49,480 --> 01:57:50,040
Speaker 4: Times you just.

2263
01:57:50,160 --> 01:57:52,000
Speaker 5: Can't you can't let him outside the.

2264
01:57:52,080 --> 01:57:53,040
Speaker 4: Pocket that's the biggest.

2265
01:57:53,080 --> 01:57:55,240
Speaker 5: Thing BUT i think to answer your, question for the

2266
01:57:55,440 --> 01:57:59,600
Speaker 5: entirety of the, season it's Protecting Daniel. Jones AND i

2267
01:57:59,680 --> 01:58:03,040
Speaker 5: looked up today BECAUSE i was really curious about that

2268
01:58:03,240 --> 01:58:04,640
Speaker 5: same line of thinking.

2269
01:58:04,440 --> 01:58:05,040
Speaker 4: You're on right.

2270
01:58:05,080 --> 01:58:08,880
Speaker 5: Now The colts have faced so far this, year they

2271
01:58:08,960 --> 01:58:13,320
Speaker 5: face the fifth most blitzes against them AND i think

2272
01:58:13,400 --> 01:58:16,360
Speaker 5: that's what teams have figured, out, right if we're gonna

2273
01:58:16,360 --> 01:58:18,600
Speaker 5: play The, colts we can't just sit back and play

2274
01:58:18,680 --> 01:58:23,160
Speaker 5: coverage and only rush for Because Jonathan taylor's gonna do

2275
01:58:23,280 --> 01:58:25,520
Speaker 5: what he's gonna, do And Daniel jones has shown that

2276
01:58:25,600 --> 01:58:27,960
Speaker 5: he's really accurate this, year and The colts have a

2277
01:58:28,040 --> 01:58:30,720
Speaker 5: diverse set of skilled players and wide receivers and tight.

2278
01:58:30,840 --> 01:58:33,480
Speaker 5: Ends they're just gonna kill us if we don't just

2279
01:58:33,600 --> 01:58:36,440
Speaker 5: bring pressure and try to dictate dictate terms to The.

2280
01:58:36,520 --> 01:58:39,000
Speaker 5: Colts SO i think that's what life is going to

2281
01:58:39,040 --> 01:58:42,280
Speaker 5: be like now going, forward especially after the last two

2282
01:58:42,360 --> 01:58:45,760
Speaker 5: games Against pittsburgh And atlanta where both of those, teams

2283
01:58:46,280 --> 01:58:50,360
Speaker 5: primarily The steelers had good success getting after The, colts

2284
01:58:50,720 --> 01:58:54,720
Speaker 5: creating some, turnovers getting, sacks and making it tough for

2285
01:58:54,760 --> 01:58:57,240
Speaker 5: The colts to be efficient on their drives and finishing

2286
01:58:57,360 --> 01:58:58,480
Speaker 5: drives into plus.

2287
01:58:58,600 --> 01:59:02,160
Speaker 1: Territory who's access season has been more reliant on the,

2288
01:59:02,280 --> 01:59:05,560
Speaker 1: Other Shane stike in having to rely On Daniel, jones

2289
01:59:05,920 --> 01:59:07,760
Speaker 1: Or Daniel jones having to rely On Shane.

2290
01:59:07,800 --> 01:59:14,120
Speaker 5: Steiken, MAN i give you, know it's it's obviously splitting.

2291
01:59:13,760 --> 01:59:17,160
Speaker 4: Hairs right, There, Jake BUT i give so much of this.

2292
01:59:17,360 --> 01:59:20,520
Speaker 5: Season in terms of, CREDIT i give it To Daniel

2293
01:59:20,640 --> 01:59:24,600
Speaker 5: jones because we've talked about this. Before you, know this

2294
01:59:24,800 --> 01:59:28,720
Speaker 5: offense last, year outside Of Tyler warren pretty much the same,

2295
01:59:28,840 --> 01:59:31,560
Speaker 5: guys you know WHAT i. MEAN i just think quarterback

2296
01:59:31,680 --> 01:59:37,720
Speaker 5: consistency instability means so. Much AND i Think Johnathan taylor's

2297
01:59:37,760 --> 01:59:40,160
Speaker 5: success or a large part of it is because The

2298
01:59:40,240 --> 01:59:43,560
Speaker 5: colts now have the threat of the passing game and

2299
01:59:43,720 --> 01:59:46,360
Speaker 5: teams can't load up the box and they have to

2300
01:59:46,440 --> 01:59:50,000
Speaker 5: spread out the defense sideline the, Sidelines so The colts

2301
01:59:50,000 --> 01:59:51,560
Speaker 5: are seeing more, wits you.

2302
01:59:51,560 --> 01:59:52,520
Speaker 4: Know from the front.

2303
01:59:52,600 --> 01:59:56,200
Speaker 5: Seven SO i just give so much credit To Daniel

2304
01:59:56,280 --> 01:59:59,640
Speaker 5: jones with his production on the, field but maybe even

2305
01:59:59,720 --> 02:00:04,000
Speaker 5: more and that he just his his tangible, intangibles his,

2306
02:00:04,240 --> 02:00:07,640
Speaker 5: character his work, ethic the way that he's been able

2307
02:00:07,720 --> 02:00:11,360
Speaker 5: to provide leadership for the locker room and and has

2308
02:00:11,440 --> 02:00:13,360
Speaker 5: done it in a short amount of. Time and we've

2309
02:00:13,440 --> 02:00:15,480
Speaker 5: we've talked about this. BEFORE i, mean he's the new

2310
02:00:15,560 --> 02:00:19,120
Speaker 5: guy in a locker room that's seen a ton of new,

2311
02:00:19,200 --> 02:00:23,480
Speaker 5: guys right since twenty nineteen When Andrew luck. Retired, uh you,

2312
02:00:23,560 --> 02:00:25,440
Speaker 5: Know he's he's come in and built up a lot

2313
02:00:25,520 --> 02:00:28,360
Speaker 5: of trust and respect and, UH i mean the guy

2314
02:00:28,520 --> 02:00:31,520
Speaker 5: just freaking lives. Here he lives at the, complex and

2315
02:00:31,920 --> 02:00:33,800
Speaker 5: he And Shane stike and are sort of cut from

2316
02:00:33,840 --> 02:00:37,040
Speaker 5: the same cloth when it comes to loving football and

2317
02:00:37,320 --> 02:00:40,080
Speaker 5: scheming things up and trying to gain that those those

2318
02:00:40,080 --> 02:00:42,320
Speaker 5: small little edges that you have to have throughout the

2319
02:00:42,400 --> 02:00:44,720
Speaker 5: course of the. Season you, know to, that to that

2320
02:00:44,880 --> 02:00:46,800
Speaker 5: leads to an eight and two record so far to

2321
02:00:46,880 --> 02:00:50,160
Speaker 5: the first ten. Games So i'm gonna go With Daniel

2322
02:00:50,240 --> 02:00:52,640
Speaker 5: jones right. THERE i just, think all of a, sudden

2323
02:00:52,840 --> 02:00:55,200
Speaker 5: everybody Thinks Shane stike is a great play caller and

2324
02:00:55,240 --> 02:00:57,520
Speaker 5: a great offense of. MIND i think he always has.

2325
02:00:57,640 --> 02:01:00,480
Speaker 5: Been but he's got the quarterback that sees game the

2326
02:01:00,560 --> 02:01:02,680
Speaker 5: same way as he does In Daniel.

2327
02:01:02,760 --> 02:01:05,240
Speaker 1: Jones you, know it's, Interesting, matt when you look At

2328
02:01:05,400 --> 02:01:09,080
Speaker 1: pittsburgh and you look At, atlanta you, know you're up,

2329
02:01:09,120 --> 02:01:11,320
Speaker 1: there As Matt, taylor the voice of The, colts who's

2330
02:01:11,360 --> 02:01:13,200
Speaker 1: on The Joba House Peeling port guest. Line, Here you're

2331
02:01:13,280 --> 02:01:17,760
Speaker 1: up there calling the, game and you're calling a lack

2332
02:01:18,000 --> 02:01:20,840
Speaker 1: of holding onto the football for the first time in

2333
02:01:20,920 --> 02:01:22,720
Speaker 1: those last two, games, RIGHT i, mean all of a,

2334
02:01:22,720 --> 02:01:26,720
Speaker 1: sudden some of those turnover issues or challenges are creeping,

2335
02:01:26,840 --> 02:01:31,040
Speaker 1: up but they're getting To Daniel jones more than what

2336
02:01:31,200 --> 02:01:35,280
Speaker 1: we saw. Previously is that Because pittsburgh came up with

2337
02:01:35,440 --> 02:01:37,120
Speaker 1: and they've got some talent up. Front don't get me,

2338
02:01:37,160 --> 02:01:40,360
Speaker 1: wrong but Did pittsburgh come up with some sort of

2339
02:01:40,440 --> 02:01:44,680
Speaker 1: a blueprint that previously was unseen That atlanta then replicated

2340
02:01:44,760 --> 02:01:47,680
Speaker 1: that The colts need to be aware, of or did

2341
02:01:47,760 --> 02:01:50,800
Speaker 1: the offensive line go into a two game step.

2342
02:01:50,920 --> 02:01:53,920
Speaker 5: BACK i think it's. More you got to give credit

2343
02:01:54,000 --> 02:01:57,160
Speaker 5: to those two teams on. DEFENSE i, mean specifically The Pittsburgh.

2344
02:01:57,160 --> 02:02:00,480
Speaker 5: Steelers they've got just two studs coming on the edge

2345
02:02:00,480 --> 02:02:02,720
Speaker 5: where most of the pressure not, all but most of

2346
02:02:02,800 --> 02:02:05,400
Speaker 5: the pressure in that game came off the edges with

2347
02:02:05,720 --> 02:02:09,200
Speaker 5: With watt and High. Smith and THEN i Think atlanta

2348
02:02:09,360 --> 02:02:12,760
Speaker 5: just blitzed their brains. Out AND i think again that's

2349
02:02:12,800 --> 02:02:15,720
Speaker 5: what most teams have done and will continue to do

2350
02:02:15,960 --> 02:02:19,240
Speaker 5: for The, colts because, AGAIN i just think most defensive

2351
02:02:19,240 --> 02:02:22,520
Speaker 5: coordinators say if we AND i hate to you, know

2352
02:02:22,640 --> 02:02:27,000
Speaker 5: single any sort of of you, know mindset or ideology,

2353
02:02:27,040 --> 02:02:29,280
Speaker 5: out BUT i mean just because it's top of, mind

2354
02:02:29,320 --> 02:02:31,240
Speaker 5: because those these two guys have been here in recent

2355
02:02:31,320 --> 02:02:33,800
Speaker 5: PASS i, mean if it's if it's The Matt eberflus

2356
02:02:33,840 --> 02:02:36,800
Speaker 5: Or Gus bradley approach where you just sit back and

2357
02:02:36,880 --> 02:02:39,240
Speaker 5: play your scheme and you don't try to be games.

2358
02:02:39,240 --> 02:02:42,040
Speaker 5: Specific The cults are just gonna torch.

2359
02:02:42,080 --> 02:02:42,520
Speaker 4: You they.

2360
02:02:42,600 --> 02:02:44,960
Speaker 5: Will they're just, GONNA i, mean they're gonna, score you,

2361
02:02:45,040 --> 02:02:46,800
Speaker 5: know thirty points in the first three and a half

2362
02:02:46,920 --> 02:02:49,640
Speaker 5: quarters and put it on cruise control and you're gonna

2363
02:02:49,640 --> 02:02:52,640
Speaker 5: lose the, game you, know thirty eight to. Whatever H

2364
02:02:52,760 --> 02:02:56,320
Speaker 5: so teams know they've got to dictate the terms to

2365
02:02:56,360 --> 02:02:58,960
Speaker 5: The colts and at least give themselves a chance to

2366
02:02:59,120 --> 02:03:02,240
Speaker 5: generate some take aways and you, know kick The colts

2367
02:03:02,280 --> 02:03:04,720
Speaker 5: out a field goal, range on a crucial sack on third,

2368
02:03:04,800 --> 02:03:08,440
Speaker 5: down or whatever the case, is by. Blitzing and The

2369
02:03:08,520 --> 02:03:10,720
Speaker 5: colts have to do a better job up front of

2370
02:03:11,040 --> 02:03:14,520
Speaker 5: being aware of those things and picking up stunts and

2371
02:03:14,680 --> 02:03:16,800
Speaker 5: twist at the line of. Scrimmage there's no doubt about.

2372
02:03:16,880 --> 02:03:19,440
Speaker 5: That AND i Think Daniel jones himself has to do

2373
02:03:20,240 --> 02:03:22,680
Speaker 5: a better job BECAUSE i think it's kind of you,

2374
02:03:22,800 --> 02:03:25,520
Speaker 5: know peaked up the last two games to your point

2375
02:03:26,080 --> 02:03:28,320
Speaker 5: of stepping up in the pocket a little bit, quicker

2376
02:03:28,720 --> 02:03:31,400
Speaker 5: getting the ball out just a little bit faster things like.

2377
02:03:31,520 --> 02:03:33,800
Speaker 5: THAT i, MEAN i think all of this goes hand

2378
02:03:33,880 --> 02:03:37,280
Speaker 5: in hand with the skill players getting, open winning their

2379
02:03:37,320 --> 02:03:39,839
Speaker 5: one on one matchups on the. Outside, obviously the offensive

2380
02:03:39,880 --> 02:03:41,920
Speaker 5: line has to Protect, jones got to get the ball out.

2381
02:03:42,000 --> 02:03:44,600
Speaker 5: FAST i THINK i think The colts spent the last

2382
02:03:44,680 --> 02:03:48,040
Speaker 5: week with the buy recognizing that those all of those

2383
02:03:48,120 --> 02:03:50,360
Speaker 5: things have been a problem in the last two, games

2384
02:03:50,680 --> 02:03:53,080
Speaker 5: even though they've split those two games one win and one.

2385
02:03:53,160 --> 02:03:55,640
Speaker 1: Loss Matt, lastly WHEN i was on my way in

2386
02:03:55,720 --> 02:03:58,720
Speaker 1: today And i've seen a fellow that does this in

2387
02:03:58,840 --> 02:04:00,880
Speaker 1: broad a ball a. Lot but he's a guy that

2388
02:04:01,240 --> 02:04:03,680
Speaker 1: doesn't have he never wears a. Shirt this wasn't that.

2389
02:04:03,840 --> 02:04:06,839
Speaker 1: GUY i was driving in AND i saw a business,

2390
02:04:06,880 --> 02:04:09,680
Speaker 1: guy like literally a business guy riding a, unicycle just

2391
02:04:09,840 --> 02:04:12,000
Speaker 1: just cruising Down capitol riding a, unicycle you, know like,

2392
02:04:12,040 --> 02:04:13,880
Speaker 1: NOBODY i, mean like had a briefcase in one hand

2393
02:04:14,440 --> 02:04:16,640
Speaker 1: suit riding a. Unicycle AND i, thought now that's a.

2394
02:04:16,720 --> 02:04:19,360
Speaker 1: Talent that's a, skill, RIGHT i, mean not just riding the,

2395
02:04:19,440 --> 02:04:21,800
Speaker 1: unicycle but doing it with a suit. On pretty. Impressive

2396
02:04:22,280 --> 02:04:23,920
Speaker 1: do you have a hidden talent like that that we're

2397
02:04:23,920 --> 02:04:24,320
Speaker 1: not aware.

2398
02:04:24,320 --> 02:04:28,200
Speaker 5: OF i don't have anything like that that. Extreme BUT

2399
02:04:28,800 --> 02:04:31,240
Speaker 5: i can play the, drums, really you KNOW i?

2400
02:04:31,320 --> 02:04:34,680
Speaker 4: Can, YEAH i. CAN i can play drums like like

2401
02:04:34,840 --> 02:04:35,320
Speaker 4: rock and roll.

2402
02:04:35,440 --> 02:04:36,840
Speaker 1: Drums like did you have drums as a?

2403
02:04:36,920 --> 02:04:38,280
Speaker 4: KID i.

2404
02:04:38,440 --> 02:04:41,400
Speaker 5: Did my dad came home like it was really, bizarre

2405
02:04:42,000 --> 02:04:43,840
Speaker 5: like in a great. Way my dad came home like

2406
02:04:43,880 --> 02:04:46,840
Speaker 5: WHEN i was in second grade one day and he.

2407
02:04:46,960 --> 02:04:47,920
Speaker 4: Just bought a drum.

2408
02:04:48,000 --> 02:04:50,560
Speaker 5: Set LIKE i got a brother growing, up neither of

2409
02:04:50,680 --> 02:04:53,200
Speaker 5: us asked for a drum, set neither of us wanted

2410
02:04:53,240 --> 02:04:55,280
Speaker 5: to like learn how to play. Drums he just came

2411
02:04:55,360 --> 02:04:57,720
Speaker 5: home with a drum set and then it was just

2412
02:04:57,840 --> 02:04:59,640
Speaker 5: there and so my brother AND i kind of picked

2413
02:04:59,640 --> 02:05:01,920
Speaker 5: it up going up and he's much better THAN i

2414
02:05:02,040 --> 02:05:03,680
Speaker 5: am my. Brother BUT i, MEAN i.

2415
02:05:03,760 --> 02:05:04,800
Speaker 4: CAN i can hold my.

2416
02:05:04,880 --> 02:05:05,160
Speaker 5: OWN i.

2417
02:05:05,240 --> 02:05:05,600
Speaker 4: CAN i.

2418
02:05:05,680 --> 02:05:08,480
Speaker 5: Can you, know If, jake if you have a band and,

2419
02:05:08,880 --> 02:05:11,080
Speaker 5: uh you know you need a guy to fill in

2420
02:05:11,200 --> 02:05:11,920
Speaker 5: and a, PINCH i.

2421
02:05:11,960 --> 02:05:13,960
Speaker 4: Can keep up with, you you, KNOW i. CAN i

2422
02:05:14,040 --> 02:05:16,360
Speaker 4: can hold my own keeping a. Beat and that's. Impressive

2423
02:05:16,800 --> 02:05:18,880
Speaker 4: maybe not a, solo BUT i. CAN i. CAN i

2424
02:05:18,960 --> 02:05:19,520
Speaker 4: can be up on.

2425
02:05:19,600 --> 02:05:21,520
Speaker 1: Stage feel Like Bobby, brady you just sat out? There

2426
02:05:21,600 --> 02:05:23,000
Speaker 1: did you like sit out in the garage or like

2427
02:05:23,040 --> 02:05:25,840
Speaker 1: where where exactly did you do this and how long

2428
02:05:26,440 --> 02:05:27,520
Speaker 1: were your parents? Neurotic?

2429
02:05:28,240 --> 02:05:30,280
Speaker 5: Uh, well, YEAH i don't know what my dad was.

2430
02:05:30,320 --> 02:05:34,120
Speaker 5: Thinking he probably didn't ask my mom for. PERMISSION i

2431
02:05:34,240 --> 02:05:37,080
Speaker 5: think he just did. It but, yeah we definitely drove

2432
02:05:37,160 --> 02:05:39,880
Speaker 5: her crazy with uh because when we was in the

2433
02:05:39,960 --> 02:05:43,960
Speaker 5: basement and, so you, know my house growing up was

2434
02:05:44,040 --> 02:05:46,440
Speaker 5: kind of like the social. House like everybody just came

2435
02:05:46,480 --> 02:05:49,280
Speaker 5: over to my, house you, know before or after. Stuff

2436
02:05:49,360 --> 02:05:52,720
Speaker 5: so you, know whenever friends would come, over they would

2437
02:05:52,800 --> 02:05:55,120
Speaker 5: just bang away and wail in the drums And i'm

2438
02:05:55,120 --> 02:05:56,800
Speaker 5: sure it would piss my mom off the high.

2439
02:05:56,680 --> 02:05:58,320
Speaker 4: Heavens But i'm sure that.

2440
02:05:58,600 --> 02:06:02,560
Speaker 1: WENT i always felt like the true sign of the

2441
02:06:02,640 --> 02:06:06,440
Speaker 1: social house. Supremacy and like late middle school and early

2442
02:06:06,520 --> 02:06:09,240
Speaker 1: high school was largely based upon how much junk food

2443
02:06:09,280 --> 02:06:10,360
Speaker 1: your mom was willing to put in the.

2444
02:06:10,400 --> 02:06:14,920
Speaker 5: Pantry junk food and you know mountain dew like terrible

2445
02:06:15,000 --> 02:06:16,040
Speaker 5: things for you to know WHAT i.

2446
02:06:16,120 --> 02:06:17,840
Speaker 4: Mean. Yeah the only thing that.

2447
02:06:18,000 --> 02:06:22,160
Speaker 5: My house didn't have that most like epically good social

2448
02:06:22,280 --> 02:06:26,080
Speaker 5: houses had growing up were like a really GOOD vhs,

2449
02:06:26,200 --> 02:06:28,000
Speaker 5: collection like tape collection of.

2450
02:06:28,080 --> 02:06:30,000
Speaker 4: Movies yeah we, didn't we didn't do.

2451
02:06:30,160 --> 02:06:32,880
Speaker 5: That my parents didn't buy. Movies we HAD hbo and

2452
02:06:32,920 --> 02:06:34,120
Speaker 5: then we would tape them off OF.

2453
02:06:34,280 --> 02:06:37,440
Speaker 1: Hbo, yeah, well, LISTEN i WAS i was in early

2454
02:06:37,520 --> 02:06:40,240
Speaker 1: high school when my, DAD i mean fortunately made it,

2455
02:06:40,320 --> 02:06:43,960
Speaker 1: through but first had a heart, episode and so you

2456
02:06:44,080 --> 02:06:45,440
Speaker 1: came over to my house and it was, like, oh

2457
02:06:45,560 --> 02:06:49,720
Speaker 1: CAN i get you some wheat bread or? Yogurt did you?

2458
02:06:49,800 --> 02:06:53,040
Speaker 1: Know All, Right, Matt colts And chiefs coming up On.

2459
02:06:53,200 --> 02:06:55,280
Speaker 1: Sunday we'll be listening to the call. Man appreciate the

2460
02:06:55,320 --> 02:06:58,400
Speaker 1: time as. Always all, right, guys be, Well Matt taylor joining,

2461
02:06:58,480 --> 02:07:00,600
Speaker 1: Us Java, House peel And Poor guests come. Back we'll

2462
02:07:00,640 --> 02:07:02,240
Speaker 1: check in WITH J andb as part of The crossover

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02:07:02,320 --> 02:07:03,680
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2466
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Speaker 1: Castleton we'll preview it With john. Next this has to

2467
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2468
02:07:18,200 --> 02:07:23,120
Speaker 1: Of compton Into Starship built This, city, right THAT'S i

2469
02:07:23,200 --> 02:07:25,240
Speaker 1: mean one of, One jacob and any song that can

2470
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Speaker 1: put itself into a traffic report mid song You Gotta.

2471
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2472
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2473
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Speaker 1: listener thirty one, today so we have thank you christin

2474
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2475
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Speaker 1: spirit which is a super cool place up In. Castleton

2476
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Speaker 1: it is just south of eighty Sixth street if you're,

2477
02:07:46,280 --> 02:07:50,160
Speaker 1: curious eighty Second street becomes or eighty Sixth street becomes

2478
02:07:50,200 --> 02:07:52,800
Speaker 1: eighty Second street when you cross The David Wolf bridge in,

2479
02:07:53,720 --> 02:07:57,520
Speaker 1: uh just there By Dean, road and then you go

2480
02:07:58,360 --> 02:08:00,640
Speaker 1: right Up allisonville to eighty Six. Street backside of them.

2481
02:08:00,680 --> 02:08:03,080
Speaker 1: All Free spirit is right. There And jamb joins us

2482
02:08:03,160 --> 02:08:05,960
Speaker 1: to preview as part of the crossover From Love Heating

2483
02:08:06,000 --> 02:08:08,800
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2484
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Speaker 1: five three twenty one forty one the telephone. Number. John

2485
02:08:12,960 --> 02:08:14,400
Speaker 1: you guys are locked and loaded for a big.

2486
02:08:14,480 --> 02:08:18,560
Speaker 7: Show right looking at all that golden Gate bridge on

2487
02:08:18,640 --> 02:08:22,720
Speaker 7: another gorgeous Sunny saturday and seeing that bumpered up bumper,

2488
02:08:22,880 --> 02:08:26,240
Speaker 7: traffic it's right genius to put in that. Song sarah's

2489
02:08:26,320 --> 02:08:29,040
Speaker 7: genius right. There The city of The rocks and the

2490
02:08:29,160 --> 02:08:29,720
Speaker 7: sitting in the never.

2491
02:08:29,800 --> 02:08:33,240
Speaker 1: Stops now they say that That's Rolling stone called that

2492
02:08:33,320 --> 02:08:35,839
Speaker 1: the worst song of the. EIGHTIES i, yeah.

2493
02:08:36,080 --> 02:08:38,440
Speaker 4: It's it's really, Popular SO i, mean, yeah it made

2494
02:08:38,480 --> 02:08:38,760
Speaker 4: a lot of.

2495
02:08:38,800 --> 02:08:41,480
Speaker 7: Money So i'm sure that, uh whomever was a part

2496
02:08:41,520 --> 02:08:44,560
Speaker 7: Of starship, There Mickey thomas or, whomever probably doesn't really

2497
02:08:44,600 --> 02:08:45,400
Speaker 7: care at this, point.

2498
02:08:45,480 --> 02:08:46,920
Speaker 4: Right they probably made it For runney off of.

2499
02:08:47,000 --> 02:08:48,800
Speaker 1: It it's it's one of the it's the save by

2500
02:08:48,840 --> 02:08:50,600
Speaker 1: The bell of, music like it's so, bad it's.

2501
02:08:50,640 --> 02:08:55,000
Speaker 4: Great, YEAH i would agree with. That, yeah, yeah, exactly

2502
02:08:55,120 --> 02:08:57,240
Speaker 4: SO i. WOULD i like. IT i like it a great.

2503
02:08:57,280 --> 02:08:58,360
Speaker 4: Deal so, YEAH i, know.

2504
02:08:59,080 --> 02:09:01,440
Speaker 1: Uh, what, Yes so what's locked and loaded Shore? Today

2505
02:09:01,440 --> 02:09:04,600
Speaker 1: at three, o'clock Cam binham.

2506
02:09:04,240 --> 02:09:05,720
Speaker 7: Is going to join us at The cole to the

2507
02:09:05,800 --> 02:09:08,080
Speaker 7: top of the. Hour so right after we get past

2508
02:09:08,840 --> 02:09:11,160
Speaker 7: us here at, three he's gonna call. In we're going

2509
02:09:11,200 --> 02:09:12,560
Speaker 7: to talk with, him and then we got our picks

2510
02:09:12,600 --> 02:09:15,360
Speaker 7: coming up at four my. Chapel so did you see

2511
02:09:15,400 --> 02:09:18,400
Speaker 7: that immediately Regarding miles last, night because the tip For,

2512
02:09:18,520 --> 02:09:20,920
Speaker 7: Tad i'm here for tip for tat always.

2513
02:09:20,800 --> 02:09:23,040
Speaker 1: WHAT i saw for. IT i didn't see it in the,

2514
02:09:23,160 --> 02:09:25,360
Speaker 1: moment and THEN i, saw as we talked about, earlier

2515
02:09:25,400 --> 02:09:27,960
Speaker 1: that the you, know the. Post and then WHAT i

2516
02:09:28,040 --> 02:09:31,440
Speaker 1: found Interesting john is That krabitz had said that he

2517
02:09:31,480 --> 02:09:34,160
Speaker 1: thought it was weak and Then Steven simon chimed in and,

2518
02:09:34,280 --> 02:09:36,520
Speaker 1: SAID i, agree and that's WHERE i was, Like, man

2519
02:09:37,640 --> 02:09:38,560
Speaker 1: somebody's getting yelled.

2520
02:09:38,600 --> 02:09:38,680
Speaker 6: At.

2521
02:09:38,840 --> 02:09:39,240
Speaker 1: Correct.

2522
02:09:39,480 --> 02:09:42,920
Speaker 7: Correct there is zero way That Kevin pritchard And Chad

2523
02:09:43,000 --> 02:09:47,880
Speaker 7: buchanan would dig. That Tyry saliburton may dig, that but

2524
02:09:48,520 --> 02:09:50,440
Speaker 7: those that run the Organization i'm sure.

2525
02:09:50,720 --> 02:09:53,160
Speaker 4: Didn't fans may dig it a little, bit.

2526
02:09:53,160 --> 02:09:55,760
Speaker 1: BUT i it looks pretty petty for certain right it

2527
02:09:55,880 --> 02:09:58,280
Speaker 1: is kind of. Fun it is Kind it's one thing

2528
02:09:58,360 --> 02:09:59,920
Speaker 1: for us to do. It it's another for to be

2529
02:10:00,120 --> 02:10:01,200
Speaker 1: up on the video board of the game.

2530
02:10:01,280 --> 02:10:05,160
Speaker 7: Itself you, KNOW i would say, This The pacers are

2531
02:10:05,280 --> 02:10:08,000
Speaker 7: paying for it in a way right, now, defensively and

2532
02:10:08,160 --> 02:10:11,480
Speaker 7: you could see when The bigs play well decently as

2533
02:10:11,560 --> 02:10:13,880
Speaker 7: what we witness last, night you, know they have the

2534
02:10:13,920 --> 02:10:16,600
Speaker 7: opportunity to win, games but for the most part they.

2535
02:10:16,680 --> 02:10:19,120
Speaker 4: Haven't so The pacers are wallowing in that right.

2536
02:10:19,200 --> 02:10:22,760
Speaker 7: Now but at some Point Jake giannis has got like

2537
02:10:22,960 --> 02:10:24,680
Speaker 7: this last year and then he's going to.

2538
02:10:24,720 --> 02:10:25,680
Speaker 4: BAIL i guarantee you.

2539
02:10:25,720 --> 02:10:27,640
Speaker 7: This he's not going to be In milwaukee next, year

2540
02:10:28,200 --> 02:10:30,680
Speaker 7: And miles is going to be playing With Karl Anthony

2541
02:10:30,720 --> 02:10:33,440
Speaker 7: towns And miles McBride and the group that's up there right,

2542
02:10:33,520 --> 02:10:36,640
Speaker 7: now and it's going to be a basketball hell and

2543
02:10:36,720 --> 02:10:37,520
Speaker 7: a waste land for.

2544
02:10:37,640 --> 02:10:39,200
Speaker 4: Him so he's he's going to.

2545
02:10:39,240 --> 02:10:41,600
Speaker 7: Pay either make it happen this year or it's not

2546
02:10:41,760 --> 02:10:44,280
Speaker 7: going to, happen BECAUSE i see there's zero way That

2547
02:10:44,440 --> 02:10:47,560
Speaker 7: yannis stays up there after this, year and that's the

2548
02:10:47,680 --> 02:10:49,640
Speaker 7: price that he's going to ultimately. Pay SO i guess

2549
02:10:49,680 --> 02:10:51,840
Speaker 7: everybody right in this tit for, tet everybody's going to

2550
02:10:51,880 --> 02:10:54,440
Speaker 7: get what they want to point their finger and, laugh.

2551
02:10:54,640 --> 02:10:58,680
Speaker 1: RIGHT i would agree with. That, yeah, listen the AS

2552
02:10:58,760 --> 02:11:01,120
Speaker 1: i talked, ABOUT i really do, think you, Know matherin

2553
02:11:01,160 --> 02:11:05,440
Speaker 1: last night was really. Good BUT i still maintain The

2554
02:11:05,520 --> 02:11:07,640
Speaker 1: pacers are going to find themselves with a top five.

2555
02:11:07,720 --> 02:11:10,320
Speaker 1: Pick you can get your sixth or seventh man with

2556
02:11:10,560 --> 02:11:13,440
Speaker 1: that and then Flip matherin and try to find eventually the.

2557
02:11:13,560 --> 02:11:15,880
Speaker 1: Return you know that whoever it's going to, be that's

2558
02:11:15,880 --> 02:11:16,640
Speaker 1: going to start for you at the.

2559
02:11:16,680 --> 02:11:20,800
Speaker 7: Fives that's My so you're you're wanting to get rid Of.

2560
02:11:20,880 --> 02:11:22,560
Speaker 4: Matherin YOU i.

2561
02:11:22,560 --> 02:11:25,040
Speaker 1: Don't Dislike matherin at. ALL i think he's a wonderful.

2562
02:11:25,080 --> 02:11:28,760
Speaker 1: PLAYER i just think that the strength That matherin brings

2563
02:11:28,840 --> 02:11:32,120
Speaker 1: to a team is not necessarily what is needed within

2564
02:11:32,240 --> 02:11:34,680
Speaker 1: the style that's that you're going to. Play Once haliburton

2565
02:11:34,720 --> 02:11:36,240
Speaker 1: gets back and is back into the, SWING.

2566
02:11:37,240 --> 02:11:40,600
Speaker 7: I i, like right, now you're not going to know.

2567
02:11:40,760 --> 02:11:46,000
Speaker 7: That SO i think that this group needs an ultimate

2568
02:11:46,680 --> 02:11:49,040
Speaker 7: what we like to call a dog. Day well he has,

2569
02:11:50,480 --> 02:11:53,800
Speaker 7: that and like he had me last night for, example

2570
02:11:53,840 --> 02:11:56,000
Speaker 7: when he, SAID i love basketball and you can't tell

2571
02:11:56,080 --> 02:11:58,440
Speaker 7: whether or not they've won by fifteen or lost by.

2572
02:11:58,560 --> 02:12:02,760
Speaker 7: Fifteen AND i think that is a mentality that this

2573
02:12:02,920 --> 02:12:04,360
Speaker 7: team absolutely.

2574
02:12:04,520 --> 02:12:04,760
Speaker 4: Needs.

2575
02:12:04,840 --> 02:12:06,640
Speaker 7: NOW i don't, know maybe you're thinking about the price

2576
02:12:06,760 --> 02:12:09,680
Speaker 7: tag that ultimately is going to be and what it may,

2577
02:12:09,840 --> 02:12:13,720
Speaker 7: cost BUT i think by really all means. Necessary that

2578
02:12:13,840 --> 02:12:15,040
Speaker 7: is a guy that you want a part of this

2579
02:12:15,240 --> 02:12:18,640
Speaker 7: organization long term because he a is going to produce

2580
02:12:18,720 --> 02:12:22,120
Speaker 7: no matter the. Circumstances but be he's just the type

2581
02:12:22,120 --> 02:12:24,600
Speaker 7: of personality that you don't. Have And i'm not suggesting

2582
02:12:24,640 --> 02:12:27,040
Speaker 7: they have bad, personalities but they don't have one.

2583
02:12:27,080 --> 02:12:28,440
Speaker 4: Like, that and that is.

2584
02:12:28,840 --> 02:12:31,680
Speaker 1: Necessary it's definitely a get out of the way, guy

2585
02:12:31,760 --> 02:12:32,800
Speaker 1: you know WHAT i, Mean, like give me the ball

2586
02:12:32,800 --> 02:12:34,320
Speaker 1: and get out of the. Way there's no doubt they,

2587
02:12:34,600 --> 02:12:36,400
Speaker 1: that all, Right john's up next to be with you

2588
02:12:36,520 --> 02:12:39,480
Speaker 1: free spirit from three until. Six we will be back

2589
02:12:39,560 --> 02:12:41,760
Speaker 1: with you at noon, tomorrow AND i thank you for

2590
02:12:41,840 --> 02:12:42,840
Speaker 1: listening To Quarrying company