1 00:00:05,200 --> 00:00:10,800 Speaker 1: Live from val Hartbeyer and the Crossroads of America. It's 2 00:00:10,840 --> 00:00:12,000 Speaker 1: Tony Katz today. 3 00:00:13,240 --> 00:00:16,680 Speaker 2: Let me just say, this is an abject disaster. Abject 4 00:00:16,680 --> 00:00:18,560 Speaker 2: disaster for the president of the United States. 5 00:00:18,680 --> 00:00:21,360 Speaker 1: You mentioned it, Jessica. Look voters on trumpet inflation. 6 00:00:21,680 --> 00:00:23,759 Speaker 2: He won the twenty twenty four election because he was 7 00:00:23,760 --> 00:00:27,040 Speaker 2: more entrusted on inflation than Kamala Harris was led by 8 00:00:27,040 --> 00:00:28,360 Speaker 2: a margin of nine points. 9 00:00:28,480 --> 00:00:31,400 Speaker 1: Look at where his net approval stands today. They'll want inflation. 10 00:00:31,840 --> 00:00:35,159 Speaker 1: My goodness, gracious, into the gut. Do we go underwater? 11 00:00:35,200 --> 00:00:35,440 Speaker 1: We go? 12 00:00:35,640 --> 00:00:38,320 Speaker 2: He's twenty five points underwater. 13 00:00:38,440 --> 00:00:39,720 Speaker 1: My goodness, gracious. 14 00:00:40,040 --> 00:00:42,599 Speaker 2: That is where the little mermaid is. And he is 15 00:00:42,680 --> 00:00:43,760 Speaker 2: matching a little mermaid. 16 00:00:43,760 --> 00:00:48,520 Speaker 1: That Now, Harry Inton's numbers, I'm not saying are wrong. 17 00:00:48,640 --> 00:00:52,040 Speaker 1: What I'm saying is they're wrong. That's that's not gonna 18 00:00:52,040 --> 00:00:55,680 Speaker 1: make any sense, Tony Katz, Tony Katz today, what are 19 00:00:55,720 --> 00:00:59,360 Speaker 1: you doing? Eight three three four six eight eight six 20 00:00:59,480 --> 00:01:02,040 Speaker 1: six nine eight three three got Tony, that's how you 21 00:01:02,040 --> 00:01:05,000 Speaker 1: get to be a part of the program. Harry anton 22 00:01:05,120 --> 00:01:08,720 Speaker 1: Is CNN's a numbers guy. I think he's good. I 23 00:01:08,720 --> 00:01:11,199 Speaker 1: think he's good. I think he's honest. I think he's fourthright, 24 00:01:11,440 --> 00:01:16,160 Speaker 1: him and Karnaki. Karnaki's over at NBC. To date, I 25 00:01:16,160 --> 00:01:20,119 Speaker 1: haven't found anything where I'm like, Okay, that's fraudulent. Okay, 26 00:01:20,360 --> 00:01:24,039 Speaker 1: they made that up. Not a thing. I think they're 27 00:01:24,080 --> 00:01:28,440 Speaker 1: sharing the data as they get it. That's where this 28 00:01:28,480 --> 00:01:36,680 Speaker 1: story doesn't work anymore. Harry Anton discussing the polling regarding 29 00:01:36,680 --> 00:01:42,560 Speaker 1: where Trump is with America regarding inflation, was plus nine 30 00:01:43,680 --> 00:01:49,200 Speaker 1: during the election, is now below twenty five, negative twenty five, 31 00:01:49,520 --> 00:01:52,360 Speaker 1: as Harry Anton is saying, he's matching up with the 32 00:01:52,360 --> 00:01:53,000 Speaker 1: little Mermaid. 33 00:01:53,200 --> 00:01:55,760 Speaker 2: That's how far underwater he is on the issue that 34 00:01:55,800 --> 00:01:57,840 Speaker 2: got him elected. He led on by nine points on 35 00:01:57,840 --> 00:02:00,360 Speaker 2: it last year, and now he's twenty five points on order. 36 00:02:00,600 --> 00:02:03,720 Speaker 2: As I said, this is a complete and total disaster 37 00:02:03,800 --> 00:02:05,000 Speaker 2: for the president of the United States. 38 00:02:05,400 --> 00:02:08,960 Speaker 1: Allow me to object just for two moments, on two 39 00:02:09,280 --> 00:02:14,040 Speaker 1: unique points. First, this is not the subject that got 40 00:02:14,120 --> 00:02:20,680 Speaker 1: him elected. The economy as a whole absolutely played into it. 41 00:02:20,960 --> 00:02:24,040 Speaker 1: That is undeniable. Inflation is a part of the other 42 00:02:24,200 --> 00:02:29,320 Speaker 1: conversation about costs, etc. And you're right, with tariffs and 43 00:02:29,360 --> 00:02:32,320 Speaker 1: other things, those costs have not gone down. But the 44 00:02:32,400 --> 00:02:38,720 Speaker 1: economy is doing better than everybody expected. Everybody. I'm one 45 00:02:38,720 --> 00:02:40,720 Speaker 1: of the people saying I don't like what I'm seeing. 46 00:02:41,600 --> 00:02:45,320 Speaker 1: Costs are still high. We don't talk about taxes. Property 47 00:02:45,360 --> 00:02:49,200 Speaker 1: taxes are too high. That does not get enough conversation nationwide. 48 00:02:49,480 --> 00:02:51,840 Speaker 1: No one's talking about, I think, except for us, the 49 00:02:51,880 --> 00:02:54,760 Speaker 1: cost of insurances and other things going up that there's 50 00:02:54,800 --> 00:02:58,160 Speaker 1: nothing we can do about. There's a real issue at 51 00:02:58,240 --> 00:03:02,520 Speaker 1: play here. These businesses that are absorbing tariffs and absorbing tariffs, 52 00:03:02,520 --> 00:03:05,600 Speaker 1: and they're changing their guidance and their outlook. Everything is 53 00:03:05,600 --> 00:03:09,680 Speaker 1: getting revised down. The tariff will eventually get passed to 54 00:03:09,720 --> 00:03:15,400 Speaker 1: the consumer. This is coming. It's not deniable. This is 55 00:03:15,639 --> 00:03:19,200 Speaker 1: going to happen. And that's where my concern is. But 56 00:03:19,360 --> 00:03:22,360 Speaker 1: have has has the economy beat every expectation with the 57 00:03:22,360 --> 00:03:26,600 Speaker 1: tariffs in place ten thousand percent? And what did we 58 00:03:26,639 --> 00:03:30,760 Speaker 1: see yesterday? Inflation at two point seven percent? The Dow 59 00:03:30,880 --> 00:03:34,240 Speaker 1: went up four hundred sumadd points, really because they think 60 00:03:34,280 --> 00:03:37,720 Speaker 1: a rate cut will finally come. Because there's an argument 61 00:03:37,800 --> 00:03:41,840 Speaker 1: to be made by many that inflation is under control. 62 00:03:42,280 --> 00:03:46,640 Speaker 1: Get the interest rates down already. Now you don't want 63 00:03:46,640 --> 00:03:49,480 Speaker 1: to know where I am on this. I'm going to 64 00:03:49,560 --> 00:03:54,160 Speaker 1: lose the arguments with you that we're not there yet, 65 00:03:54,360 --> 00:03:56,920 Speaker 1: that I haven't seen enough trend line to make me 66 00:03:57,000 --> 00:03:59,760 Speaker 1: there yet. I admit that on these subjects I am 67 00:03:59,760 --> 00:04:03,280 Speaker 1: more conservative than others. But I understand at least the 68 00:04:03,400 --> 00:04:07,520 Speaker 1: argument being made we are keeping the price of capital 69 00:04:07,600 --> 00:04:11,760 Speaker 1: too high. We don't actually have a good enough reason 70 00:04:11,880 --> 00:04:15,120 Speaker 1: other than we would like to see more data of 71 00:04:15,160 --> 00:04:20,919 Speaker 1: a downward trandor stabilizing I have point cut isn't even enough, 72 00:04:21,200 --> 00:04:23,880 Speaker 1: but Wall Street will take it as a start. Trump's 73 00:04:24,520 --> 00:04:27,200 Speaker 1: his argument is this should have happened six months ago. 74 00:04:27,520 --> 00:04:29,719 Speaker 1: What are you waiting for? That's why he calls Jerome 75 00:04:29,760 --> 00:04:32,600 Speaker 1: Powell too late? Jerome Powell what He's always got a 76 00:04:32,680 --> 00:04:35,240 Speaker 1: name for everybody. Everybody's got a name and a name 77 00:04:35,279 --> 00:04:39,719 Speaker 1: for everyone. So that's the other argument, that we've already 78 00:04:39,800 --> 00:04:44,080 Speaker 1: hit this new stabilization thought process. This is where everything is. 79 00:04:44,279 --> 00:04:46,880 Speaker 1: These are where the tariffs are. Everybody has now baked 80 00:04:46,880 --> 00:04:49,520 Speaker 1: this into the cake, lower the dam interest rates, and 81 00:04:49,560 --> 00:04:52,279 Speaker 1: so we're clear tariffs are here to stay. Oh I 82 00:04:52,279 --> 00:04:55,680 Speaker 1: don't like it one bit. I don't like it one bit. 83 00:04:55,800 --> 00:04:57,559 Speaker 1: Look my gosh, look at all the money we're bringing 84 00:04:57,560 --> 00:05:01,640 Speaker 1: into the conference. It's our money, it's not China's money. 85 00:05:02,440 --> 00:05:05,440 Speaker 1: If you want me to celebrate something, tell me we're 86 00:05:05,440 --> 00:05:09,120 Speaker 1: no longer paying back China. They steal our intellectual property. 87 00:05:09,160 --> 00:05:11,440 Speaker 1: They gave us COVID. You know what, Anything that we 88 00:05:11,520 --> 00:05:14,360 Speaker 1: owe them we're keeping because we're gonna use other places. 89 00:05:14,520 --> 00:05:18,000 Speaker 1: They stole their money back. They gave us COVID. We 90 00:05:18,080 --> 00:05:21,520 Speaker 1: think that's worth at least one hundred billion dollars, maybe 91 00:05:21,520 --> 00:05:23,280 Speaker 1: two hundred and fifty billion dollars. I don't actually know 92 00:05:23,320 --> 00:05:25,280 Speaker 1: how much we owe them right now, but whatever that 93 00:05:25,360 --> 00:05:29,920 Speaker 1: number is, there it is. I think that's fine. I'd 94 00:05:29,960 --> 00:05:33,880 Speaker 1: cheer this all day. Tariffs, don't I don't cheer. I 95 00:05:33,880 --> 00:05:36,000 Speaker 1: don't cheer tariffs. Now, if you're gonna get rid of 96 00:05:36,040 --> 00:05:39,039 Speaker 1: the income tax and have everything tariff based and luxury 97 00:05:39,080 --> 00:05:43,360 Speaker 1: tax based, now we can talk now. Boo boo, you 98 00:05:43,520 --> 00:05:46,200 Speaker 1: got my full attention. If we're gonna get rid of 99 00:05:46,200 --> 00:05:49,520 Speaker 1: the income tax, which is vile and a sin and 100 00:05:49,600 --> 00:05:53,960 Speaker 1: has done nothing but divide Americans since its existence, shame 101 00:05:54,040 --> 00:05:56,919 Speaker 1: on us in nineteen thirteen for allowing this to happen 102 00:05:56,960 --> 00:06:02,560 Speaker 1: to us. Pure unadulterated evil is the income tax. Trump's 103 00:06:02,800 --> 00:06:08,520 Speaker 1: number on inflation at negative twenty five is actually I 104 00:06:08,560 --> 00:06:11,880 Speaker 1: would argue, as CNN has it here, not a number 105 00:06:11,920 --> 00:06:16,960 Speaker 1: on inflation, but rather a thought process on the overall economy. 106 00:06:17,080 --> 00:06:21,680 Speaker 1: It's we would have to make the argument that people 107 00:06:21,960 --> 00:06:26,039 Speaker 1: parse that out. And I'm saying to you that between you, 108 00:06:26,120 --> 00:06:28,240 Speaker 1: me and the lamp posts, you and me on a 109 00:06:28,240 --> 00:06:31,240 Speaker 1: barstool having a bourbon, we might not parse that out. 110 00:06:31,839 --> 00:06:35,359 Speaker 1: And we do this every day. I think when people 111 00:06:35,360 --> 00:06:40,239 Speaker 1: hear inflation, they talk economy writ large as a whole, 112 00:06:40,760 --> 00:06:46,960 Speaker 1: and the economy is not great better. Certainly Wall Street 113 00:06:47,000 --> 00:06:51,520 Speaker 1: thinks it's better, but Midwest Main Street does not yet 114 00:06:51,560 --> 00:06:55,320 Speaker 1: think it's great. Part of that being, for example, the 115 00:06:55,360 --> 00:06:57,239 Speaker 1: interest rates. So if you're trying to buy a house, 116 00:06:57,520 --> 00:07:01,880 Speaker 1: you're still paying upwards of seven percent. It might be 117 00:07:01,920 --> 00:07:03,880 Speaker 1: six and three quarter, but we're all playing in the 118 00:07:03,880 --> 00:07:06,919 Speaker 1: same ballpark there of the fact that it's not five 119 00:07:06,960 --> 00:07:10,080 Speaker 1: and an eighth, because at five and eighth people are 120 00:07:10,120 --> 00:07:13,360 Speaker 1: buying houses. I've actually argued anything under five percent, you'd 121 00:07:13,360 --> 00:07:17,120 Speaker 1: be fine. You don't need the two two and a 122 00:07:17,120 --> 00:07:19,640 Speaker 1: half percent interest rates to get people to buy houses. 123 00:07:19,880 --> 00:07:21,800 Speaker 1: If the interest rate was four and three quarters, people 124 00:07:21,800 --> 00:07:24,600 Speaker 1: would buy houses. Once it so Ober five, they've got 125 00:07:24,600 --> 00:07:28,320 Speaker 1: concerns once they've got seven, they stop, they stomp. But 126 00:07:28,400 --> 00:07:30,480 Speaker 1: some people have had to buy houses because they don't 127 00:07:30,480 --> 00:07:33,640 Speaker 1: have a choice. They haven't had an option. So this 128 00:07:33,760 --> 00:07:39,240 Speaker 1: conversation of net approval on Trump and inflation, I think 129 00:07:39,280 --> 00:07:42,240 Speaker 1: it's more of a conversation about the economy as a whole. 130 00:07:42,760 --> 00:07:45,960 Speaker 1: Back to this conversation over there with Harry Enton of CNN. 131 00:07:46,160 --> 00:07:48,280 Speaker 2: So let's look ahead to twenty twenty six when a 132 00:07:48,320 --> 00:07:51,000 Speaker 2: lot of Republican all the House Republicans. 133 00:07:50,360 --> 00:07:53,080 Speaker 1: Some senator is going to be on the ballot. How 134 00:07:53,120 --> 00:07:55,800 Speaker 1: is that shaping first, I don't know who the woman 135 00:07:55,880 --> 00:07:58,800 Speaker 1: is asking him questions. All members of Congress, of the 136 00:07:58,800 --> 00:08:01,520 Speaker 1: House of Representatives are on the what do you mean 137 00:08:01,680 --> 00:08:05,960 Speaker 1: just for just dopey, pure dopey. 138 00:08:06,120 --> 00:08:09,120 Speaker 2: Republicans in Congress think that they can escape the wrath of. 139 00:08:09,080 --> 00:08:10,440 Speaker 1: The voters when it comes to inflation. 140 00:08:10,800 --> 00:08:13,040 Speaker 2: I have a bit of a root awakening for them. 141 00:08:13,200 --> 00:08:15,440 Speaker 1: Trust which party more inflation? You go back to the 142 00:08:15,480 --> 00:08:16,560 Speaker 1: twenty twenty two mid terms. 143 00:08:16,560 --> 00:08:19,160 Speaker 2: Look at this, Republicans led by thirteen points in which 144 00:08:19,200 --> 00:08:21,320 Speaker 2: party was more trust and inflation? Look at where we 145 00:08:21,360 --> 00:08:24,680 Speaker 2: are now, nearly a fifteen point shift in the Democrats direction. 146 00:08:24,760 --> 00:08:27,160 Speaker 2: It's within the margin of error, but the Democrats up 147 00:08:27,160 --> 00:08:30,440 Speaker 2: by a point. This just looks totally different from where 148 00:08:30,440 --> 00:08:32,520 Speaker 2: we were back in twenty twenty two, when, of course 149 00:08:32,520 --> 00:08:34,880 Speaker 2: Republicans took back the House. That's what Democrats are trying 150 00:08:34,920 --> 00:08:37,280 Speaker 2: to do this time around, looking much better for them. 151 00:08:37,440 --> 00:08:39,680 Speaker 2: The bottom line is the rant that the voters feel 152 00:08:39,720 --> 00:08:42,480 Speaker 2: for Donald Trump and inflation is transferring over a house 153 00:08:42,520 --> 00:08:45,440 Speaker 2: Republicans and now Democrats. Although it's a small lead, a 154 00:08:45,520 --> 00:08:48,000 Speaker 2: big difference from where we were back in October of 155 00:08:48,000 --> 00:08:50,640 Speaker 2: twenty twenty two, with Democrats actually in the positive and 156 00:08:50,720 --> 00:08:53,600 Speaker 2: Republicans in the negative, very much the reverse of where 157 00:08:53,600 --> 00:08:54,280 Speaker 2: we were. 158 00:08:54,240 --> 00:08:57,280 Speaker 1: Just three years ago. Now, again, I tell you this 159 00:08:57,320 --> 00:09:00,240 Speaker 1: is about the economy overall. Would I be concerned learned 160 00:09:00,240 --> 00:09:04,240 Speaker 1: about it? Not necessarily? Why? Because election day is November third, 161 00:09:04,280 --> 00:09:08,000 Speaker 1: twenty twenty sixth, and this is August of twenty twenty five, 162 00:09:08,679 --> 00:09:12,200 Speaker 1: and a lot can change between now and then. This 163 00:09:12,720 --> 00:09:19,080 Speaker 1: argument does not hold if you feel it differently in 164 00:09:19,160 --> 00:09:22,400 Speaker 1: a supermarket. This is why the Democrats argument was so 165 00:09:22,559 --> 00:09:28,000 Speaker 1: bad during Biden's Harris's run. They told you that things 166 00:09:28,000 --> 00:09:32,760 Speaker 1: were great, but you went to the store and you said, 167 00:09:33,040 --> 00:09:39,960 Speaker 1: wait a second, this isn't great. This sucks. So when 168 00:09:40,120 --> 00:09:45,160 Speaker 1: you now hear from Trumpville from Magaville, I should say 169 00:09:45,320 --> 00:09:49,280 Speaker 1: everything's great. You're like, not everything is great. Some things 170 00:09:49,320 --> 00:09:52,560 Speaker 1: are better, some things are doing better than I thought 171 00:09:52,559 --> 00:09:56,559 Speaker 1: they would. It's really impressive. But great. No, no, no, 172 00:09:56,760 --> 00:10:01,640 Speaker 1: everything is not. Everything is great. Not everything is great. 173 00:10:02,000 --> 00:10:07,960 Speaker 1: But that can all change. It can all change. And 174 00:10:08,880 --> 00:10:12,800 Speaker 1: we should be clear that it's not like Democrats have 175 00:10:12,840 --> 00:10:16,040 Speaker 1: a financial message to run on. I mean, the only 176 00:10:16,080 --> 00:10:21,440 Speaker 1: message that would work is no tariffs. No tariffs. Now, 177 00:10:21,600 --> 00:10:25,360 Speaker 1: if you're a union guy, you say, oh, so you're 178 00:10:25,360 --> 00:10:28,800 Speaker 1: going to capitulate the foreign nations that screw us on 179 00:10:28,840 --> 00:10:32,160 Speaker 1: the dollar and screw us on imports and not taking 180 00:10:32,160 --> 00:10:34,600 Speaker 1: our exports, and we're the ones who are going to suffer. 181 00:10:37,720 --> 00:10:43,119 Speaker 1: We should discuss where the nuance is for the political left. 182 00:10:43,600 --> 00:10:47,719 Speaker 1: The numbers here again have a bit of connection when 183 00:10:47,720 --> 00:10:50,840 Speaker 1: we're talking about the economy overall. But if we're saying 184 00:10:50,960 --> 00:10:54,720 Speaker 1: that the voter votes solely on inflation, that is not 185 00:10:54,760 --> 00:10:57,280 Speaker 1: what the voter solely votes on. So this is still 186 00:10:58,400 --> 00:11:02,200 Speaker 1: snapshot in time, not the end of the universe. Yeah, 187 00:11:02,240 --> 00:11:04,640 Speaker 1: and so how do voters feel about inflation in terms 188 00:11:04,640 --> 00:11:06,640 Speaker 1: of where it rank, what kind of priority it is 189 00:11:06,679 --> 00:11:07,320 Speaker 1: for them, right. 190 00:11:07,400 --> 00:11:09,800 Speaker 2: So we started off this segment by saying that inflation 191 00:11:09,960 --> 00:11:11,920 Speaker 2: was the reason that Donald Trump was elected, was the 192 00:11:11,920 --> 00:11:15,520 Speaker 2: most important issue for the voters back last year at 193 00:11:15,520 --> 00:11:17,400 Speaker 2: this point, and look at where we are today. What 194 00:11:17,520 --> 00:11:20,559 Speaker 2: is the top issue for you right now? It's a runaway. 195 00:11:20,760 --> 00:11:24,480 Speaker 2: It's inflation. It's thirty four percent compared to the economy 196 00:11:24,480 --> 00:11:27,320 Speaker 2: which is basically very similar at sixteen percent, Medicare and 197 00:11:27,360 --> 00:11:30,040 Speaker 2: Social Security at fourteen percent. But the bottom line is, 198 00:11:30,160 --> 00:11:33,079 Speaker 2: voters in Paul after Paul after Paul say that Donald 199 00:11:33,120 --> 00:11:35,560 Speaker 2: Trump has taken his eye off the ball, off the 200 00:11:35,600 --> 00:11:38,040 Speaker 2: big issue of the day, which is inflation. And that 201 00:11:38,160 --> 00:11:40,600 Speaker 2: is why Donald Trump is way underwater on this issue, 202 00:11:40,640 --> 00:11:43,040 Speaker 2: and it's why Democrats have caught up to Republicans on 203 00:11:43,080 --> 00:11:44,559 Speaker 2: the all important issue of inflation. 204 00:11:44,760 --> 00:11:46,479 Speaker 1: I can guarantee you this, Jessica. 205 00:11:46,520 --> 00:11:49,559 Speaker 2: If these numbers look right now like they do or 206 00:11:49,720 --> 00:11:52,360 Speaker 2: will look on election Day twenty twenty six, there is 207 00:11:52,440 --> 00:11:55,080 Speaker 2: no way on God's green Earth that Republicans can hold 208 00:11:55,080 --> 00:11:57,280 Speaker 2: onto the House of Representatives. These numbers, as I said, 209 00:11:57,320 --> 00:12:00,760 Speaker 2: an abject disaster for Donald Trump the Republic. 210 00:12:00,800 --> 00:12:05,280 Speaker 1: I mean now that we could agree with. Although it's 211 00:12:05,320 --> 00:12:08,800 Speaker 1: not the only thing people vote on. The pocketbook is 212 00:12:08,880 --> 00:12:12,120 Speaker 1: the top issue. And even though he's got the split 213 00:12:12,160 --> 00:12:14,600 Speaker 1: there between inflation at thirty four percent and the economy 214 00:12:14,600 --> 00:12:18,240 Speaker 1: at sixteen percent, I don't think the average American splits 215 00:12:18,280 --> 00:12:22,440 Speaker 1: that in their head. What he's right about is if 216 00:12:22,440 --> 00:12:25,640 Speaker 1: this is the case come election day November third, twenty 217 00:12:25,679 --> 00:12:30,320 Speaker 1: twenty six, A given, I give Harrenton that all day, 218 00:12:31,360 --> 00:12:32,960 Speaker 1: and I think that this is a good bit of 219 00:12:32,960 --> 00:12:36,160 Speaker 1: information for the political right to be looking at. There 220 00:12:36,360 --> 00:12:40,560 Speaker 1: is this strategy from Trump working. This strategy has been 221 00:12:40,559 --> 00:12:45,920 Speaker 1: in place now for six months. Six months really, it 222 00:12:45,960 --> 00:12:52,040 Speaker 1: was a couple months before this started going full on, 223 00:12:52,559 --> 00:12:57,720 Speaker 1: right full into its implementation. It'll be a question about 224 00:12:57,720 --> 00:13:00,880 Speaker 1: where it is six months from now. It's a question 225 00:13:00,920 --> 00:13:04,120 Speaker 1: where it's going to be six months before election day 226 00:13:04,600 --> 00:13:08,560 Speaker 1: as that messaging takes hold. I can give you messaging 227 00:13:08,600 --> 00:13:11,360 Speaker 1: that counters this. The price of eggs used to be 228 00:13:11,360 --> 00:13:17,439 Speaker 1: eight dollars a dozen. Now it's not. That message counters 229 00:13:18,840 --> 00:13:25,640 Speaker 1: the message of inflation up and my gosh, everything's more expensive. 230 00:13:26,120 --> 00:13:28,080 Speaker 1: The problem is, there are very few things you can 231 00:13:28,080 --> 00:13:31,880 Speaker 1: point to. Beef is far more expensive. It just is 232 00:13:32,000 --> 00:13:35,080 Speaker 1: it's crazy. What's going on. A host of things are 233 00:13:35,080 --> 00:13:36,880 Speaker 1: more expensive, and the insurances and the other things I 234 00:13:36,880 --> 00:13:40,960 Speaker 1: talked about. This is all happening. It is very very real, 235 00:13:42,040 --> 00:13:44,720 Speaker 1: and yes, it is for Republicans to contend with. When 236 00:13:44,720 --> 00:13:47,800 Speaker 1: you win, you have to contend with it. Will the 237 00:13:47,840 --> 00:13:50,640 Speaker 1: tariff policy pay off? We're going to find out. We're 238 00:13:50,679 --> 00:13:55,640 Speaker 1: all gonna find out. Is this the only thing voters 239 00:13:55,640 --> 00:14:00,200 Speaker 1: are voting on? Absolutely not. Is this an early snapshot 240 00:14:00,200 --> 00:14:02,440 Speaker 1: and has nothing to do with what might take place 241 00:14:02,440 --> 00:14:07,400 Speaker 1: to the election. Ten thousand percent. Do I believe that 242 00:14:07,480 --> 00:14:11,040 Speaker 1: the voter really separates in place from the economy. I don't. 243 00:14:12,440 --> 00:14:17,640 Speaker 1: Are things cheaper overall? No? Do people still have economic issues? Yes? 244 00:14:18,480 --> 00:14:23,880 Speaker 1: Is the economy perfect? No? Does Trump have to be 245 00:14:24,000 --> 00:14:25,560 Speaker 1: the guy to get it there? Is it all on 246 00:14:25,640 --> 00:14:32,120 Speaker 1: his shoulders? Ten thousand percent. This is the mantle you took. 247 00:14:32,400 --> 00:14:34,560 Speaker 1: This is what you're gonna have to deal with. So 248 00:14:35,000 --> 00:14:39,360 Speaker 1: interesting data, and I disagree with parts of how it 249 00:14:39,400 --> 00:14:44,200 Speaker 1: is how he comes to his summaries. But this should 250 00:14:44,280 --> 00:14:46,480 Speaker 1: let Republicans know that there are things that have to 251 00:14:46,560 --> 00:14:49,280 Speaker 1: be worked on and have to be messaged right now 252 00:14:49,600 --> 00:14:51,760 Speaker 1: in order to achieve victory and keep the House and 253 00:14:51,840 --> 00:14:55,120 Speaker 1: keep the Senate Come November three and you better get 254 00:14:55,120 --> 00:14:58,520 Speaker 1: on that, because the border does matter, and safety and 255 00:14:58,560 --> 00:15:01,440 Speaker 1: security these things do mat matter, and they do move 256 00:15:01,520 --> 00:15:06,040 Speaker 1: people dollars or dollars or dollars or dollars, and having 257 00:15:06,080 --> 00:15:09,680 Speaker 1: more money in your pocketbook is always the top issue. 258 00:15:09,880 --> 00:15:15,440 Speaker 1: This is Tony Katz Today in the pantheon of classic television, 259 00:15:15,560 --> 00:15:18,800 Speaker 1: or at least television that gen X grew up on. 260 00:15:18,960 --> 00:15:22,640 Speaker 1: Tony Katz, Tony Kats Today, Good to be with you. 261 00:15:23,240 --> 00:15:25,960 Speaker 1: I mean, there's a series of shows, right, there's the 262 00:15:26,000 --> 00:15:27,840 Speaker 1: shows that you saw. You know, it was the musty 263 00:15:27,920 --> 00:15:32,520 Speaker 1: TV stuff as Cosby and Cheers, and there was Nightcore 264 00:15:32,640 --> 00:15:35,960 Speaker 1: and then Friends. Right, there's all that kind of stuff. 265 00:15:37,400 --> 00:15:39,800 Speaker 1: But then there was the stuff that you knew you 266 00:15:39,840 --> 00:15:45,160 Speaker 1: watched but necessary didn't necessarily come to part of the conversation. 267 00:15:45,720 --> 00:16:08,000 Speaker 1: One of those shows was What's Happening You're talking about rerun? Hey, Hey, hey, 268 00:16:08,160 --> 00:16:12,360 Speaker 1: you're talking about the whole thing. On that show, there 269 00:16:12,520 --> 00:16:18,080 Speaker 1: was a character, the character of Roger or Roger, and 270 00:16:18,200 --> 00:16:24,120 Speaker 1: her name was D and D was the really almost 271 00:16:24,160 --> 00:16:27,160 Speaker 1: the stereotype or I shouldn't say steriot have the prototype 272 00:16:27,640 --> 00:16:31,880 Speaker 1: for a wise, cracking and smarter than a brother and 273 00:16:31,880 --> 00:16:37,200 Speaker 1: everything else. And her name was Danielle Spencer. Danielle Spencer 274 00:16:37,680 --> 00:16:45,040 Speaker 1: died yesterday cancer. Now I didn't know her story. I 275 00:16:45,080 --> 00:16:50,520 Speaker 1: didn't know anything about D. I didn't to my faults 276 00:16:50,640 --> 00:16:54,920 Speaker 1: or just because I didn't, and it's more than understandable. 277 00:16:55,800 --> 00:16:59,640 Speaker 1: I never looked her up. I never looked up what 278 00:16:59,680 --> 00:17:07,080 Speaker 1: happened been to D from what's happening. She became a veterinarian. 279 00:17:08,720 --> 00:17:12,879 Speaker 1: I didn't know that. I hadn't no idea that this 280 00:17:13,600 --> 00:17:17,000 Speaker 1: was the case. I didn't know she wanted a career 281 00:17:17,040 --> 00:17:20,719 Speaker 1: in Hollywood or didn't want a career in Hollywood. I 282 00:17:20,760 --> 00:17:26,199 Speaker 1: had no idea. What I know is I look at there. 283 00:17:26,359 --> 00:17:28,439 Speaker 1: They now show photos of her, let's say, from a 284 00:17:28,480 --> 00:17:33,960 Speaker 1: party in twenty twelve. She's walking with crutches. So maybe 285 00:17:34,000 --> 00:17:37,399 Speaker 1: there was an issue there that I didn't know about. 286 00:17:37,840 --> 00:17:39,800 Speaker 1: One of the things that is discussed is that she 287 00:17:39,800 --> 00:17:42,840 Speaker 1: got into a car accident, broke her right leg, her 288 00:17:42,960 --> 00:17:45,440 Speaker 1: right arm, she was in coma for three weeks, broke 289 00:17:45,480 --> 00:17:49,920 Speaker 1: her pelvis. Maybe that's what Maybe that's what that is 290 00:17:50,520 --> 00:17:56,080 Speaker 1: all about, but I don't know what it was. She 291 00:17:56,160 --> 00:18:00,800 Speaker 1: went to Tuskegee University, Veterinary School. Veterinary School Tuskegee Alabama 292 00:18:01,080 --> 00:18:05,240 Speaker 1: became a veterinarian after graduating. I don't know why it 293 00:18:05,320 --> 00:18:07,520 Speaker 1: is that that hit me like a ton of bricks. 294 00:18:08,359 --> 00:18:13,520 Speaker 1: It's weird. Other people, uh pass away and and I 295 00:18:13,520 --> 00:18:15,880 Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, that's that's too bad, right, And then 296 00:18:16,000 --> 00:18:19,040 Speaker 1: it's like wow, okay, wow, part of of your of 297 00:18:19,080 --> 00:18:22,720 Speaker 1: your past, of your of your growing up things like that. Certainly, 298 00:18:22,840 --> 00:18:26,119 Speaker 1: Ozzy Osma is like, oh my gosh, are you kidding? 299 00:18:27,480 --> 00:18:31,760 Speaker 1: I have this doesn't even make any sense that she 300 00:18:33,160 --> 00:18:36,000 Speaker 1: dies at the age of what is she sixty sixty? 301 00:18:36,160 --> 00:18:47,400 Speaker 1: Sixty sixty, which is crazy incredible. I I don't know 302 00:18:47,520 --> 00:18:52,280 Speaker 1: if that says something about me or says something about 303 00:18:52,320 --> 00:18:55,280 Speaker 1: the impact of these stories. Because if you're if you're 304 00:18:55,359 --> 00:19:00,520 Speaker 1: gen X, you understand that every day the it's going 305 00:19:00,560 --> 00:19:02,680 Speaker 1: to be Okay, what part of my childhood has gone? 306 00:19:02,760 --> 00:19:05,960 Speaker 1: Now you are now of the age. The boomers have 307 00:19:06,040 --> 00:19:10,080 Speaker 1: already lived through this. This is now gen X, and 308 00:19:10,160 --> 00:19:12,440 Speaker 1: I'm here to tell you this is gen X's time 309 00:19:12,520 --> 00:19:16,879 Speaker 1: to be dealing with this. It is It's weird. It 310 00:19:16,960 --> 00:19:22,800 Speaker 1: is just super super super weird to watch it happen. 311 00:19:23,800 --> 00:19:26,639 Speaker 1: I don't think there's any other word for it. Yeah, 312 00:19:26,960 --> 00:19:32,280 Speaker 1: hit me like my gosh, that's just nuddy. Danielle Spencer 313 00:19:32,440 --> 00:19:36,080 Speaker 1: d from What's Happening dead at the age of sixty, 314 00:19:36,240 --> 00:19:39,360 Speaker 1: every good thought to her family from keep it here. 315 00:19:39,880 --> 00:19:46,520 Speaker 1: This is Tony kats today. We all know that social 316 00:19:46,600 --> 00:19:49,600 Speaker 1: media isn't real. That the people who post on social 317 00:19:49,640 --> 00:19:54,840 Speaker 1: media angry and bitter and hateful and argumentative and not 318 00:19:55,040 --> 00:19:58,399 Speaker 1: there to engage, but rather to push the narrative, not facts. 319 00:19:58,400 --> 00:20:01,600 Speaker 1: They're there to try and pretend the story is real, 320 00:20:01,960 --> 00:20:04,920 Speaker 1: not actually get what the real story is. I think 321 00:20:04,960 --> 00:20:08,000 Speaker 1: at this stage of the game, I certainly hope at 322 00:20:08,000 --> 00:20:09,719 Speaker 1: this stage of the game, we're all aware of that. 323 00:20:09,800 --> 00:20:13,080 Speaker 1: Tony Katz, Tony Katz today, good to be with you. 324 00:20:13,119 --> 00:20:16,560 Speaker 1: Find everything going on at Tony katz dot com. But 325 00:20:16,760 --> 00:20:20,800 Speaker 1: this was a new one, and this is a post 326 00:20:20,840 --> 00:20:25,040 Speaker 1: that was sent my way. Tony Katz's hero Senator Banks 327 00:20:25,040 --> 00:20:30,120 Speaker 1: and Senator Young. You two are gutless cowards. It's talking 328 00:20:30,160 --> 00:20:32,400 Speaker 1: about Senator Jim Banks of Indiana Center and Todd Young 329 00:20:32,440 --> 00:20:36,840 Speaker 1: of Indiana, both Republicans. I have no idea what he's 330 00:20:36,880 --> 00:20:41,000 Speaker 1: talking about. He's got a link now. Jim Banks has 331 00:20:41,160 --> 00:20:46,280 Speaker 1: long been a supporter of Donald Trump, a deep, deep, 332 00:20:46,480 --> 00:20:52,400 Speaker 1: deep supporter, really aggressive on not creating daylight between the two. 333 00:20:52,680 --> 00:20:57,600 Speaker 1: I haven't really seen anything that shows a difference now 334 00:20:57,640 --> 00:21:01,320 Speaker 1: Todd Young. Todd Young is a little bit different. He 335 00:21:01,359 --> 00:21:05,360 Speaker 1: has come around to a bunch of Trump activities as 336 00:21:05,400 --> 00:21:09,200 Speaker 1: of this year. But Todd Young was a guy saying 337 00:21:09,240 --> 00:21:13,679 Speaker 1: I'm not going to challenge the election results of twenty twenty. 338 00:21:13,760 --> 00:21:16,560 Speaker 1: I don't think it's there. That's all there is to it. 339 00:21:17,119 --> 00:21:20,199 Speaker 1: And he got definitely a fair amount of ire for that. 340 00:21:20,720 --> 00:21:24,440 Speaker 1: He definitely sees has a different worldview than Trump, but 341 00:21:24,480 --> 00:21:28,840 Speaker 1: has been supportive of the military moves of Trump et cetera. 342 00:21:29,600 --> 00:21:31,760 Speaker 1: So I wasn't sure what this was all about. He 343 00:21:31,840 --> 00:21:34,840 Speaker 1: adds a link. The link goes to NPR. Now at 344 00:21:34,840 --> 00:21:38,960 Speaker 1: that moment, you know, Tony, don't ever read the comments, 345 00:21:39,280 --> 00:21:45,720 Speaker 1: don't open the links NPR, NPR. I mean, you're talking 346 00:21:45,760 --> 00:21:48,320 Speaker 1: about the worst kind of porn addict here. If you're 347 00:21:48,359 --> 00:21:52,480 Speaker 1: sending me a link from NPR, it's the here's the headline. 348 00:21:53,000 --> 00:21:57,840 Speaker 1: Video shows Department of Justice official urging January sixth rioters 349 00:21:57,880 --> 00:22:03,800 Speaker 1: to kill cops. What in the world does this have 350 00:22:03,920 --> 00:22:11,959 Speaker 1: to do with me? Banks or Young? What in the 351 00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:16,560 Speaker 1: world does this have to do with me or either 352 00:22:16,680 --> 00:22:22,760 Speaker 1: Senator I just told you that Senator Young was a 353 00:22:22,800 --> 00:22:25,560 Speaker 1: guy who said he wasn't going to make the move 354 00:22:26,240 --> 00:22:30,320 Speaker 1: regarding any level of holding up, you know, confirming the 355 00:22:30,400 --> 00:22:34,159 Speaker 1: votes on January sixth, we didn't. Sorry, the data is 356 00:22:34,200 --> 00:22:36,560 Speaker 1: not there to prove it. That's what he said at 357 00:22:36,600 --> 00:22:38,080 Speaker 1: the time. I don't know where he is right now 358 00:22:38,080 --> 00:22:39,960 Speaker 1: on the subject, but that's what he said at the time. 359 00:22:40,480 --> 00:22:44,280 Speaker 1: So how in the world does he some my wait, wait, 360 00:22:44,320 --> 00:22:49,840 Speaker 1: what was it? A cutlass coward? Now center Now, then, 361 00:22:49,960 --> 00:22:55,640 Speaker 1: Congressman Banks was indeed in favor of challenging the election results, 362 00:22:56,280 --> 00:23:00,000 Speaker 1: which I did not mind because when it comes specifically 363 00:23:00,280 --> 00:23:04,360 Speaker 1: example Pennsylvania, the results should have been challenged. I will 364 00:23:04,359 --> 00:23:07,040 Speaker 1: say this from now until the end of time. If 365 00:23:07,200 --> 00:23:12,160 Speaker 1: legislatures determine the rules for elections in their state and 366 00:23:12,200 --> 00:23:15,080 Speaker 1: the judiciary comes in and changes those rules, oh you 367 00:23:15,080 --> 00:23:17,800 Speaker 1: could wait until this date. You have to allow these signatures. 368 00:23:18,560 --> 00:23:23,720 Speaker 1: That's a usurpation. I would not have certified any electoral 369 00:23:23,800 --> 00:23:26,399 Speaker 1: votes from Pennsylvania, not a one. And I think that 370 00:23:26,440 --> 00:23:28,400 Speaker 1: the lawsuits that should have been heard by the Supreme 371 00:23:28,440 --> 00:23:31,560 Speaker 1: Court were those lawsuits from other states saying that they 372 00:23:31,560 --> 00:23:35,760 Speaker 1: were having their voters their citizens disenfranchised by the rules 373 00:23:35,800 --> 00:23:38,520 Speaker 1: of other states. That should have been heard from the court. 374 00:23:38,640 --> 00:23:41,800 Speaker 1: I think that Justices Alito and Thomas were absolutely right. 375 00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:45,000 Speaker 1: If we're not hearing this, what exactly are we hearing? 376 00:23:45,119 --> 00:23:47,800 Speaker 1: If we're not going to listen to this case, quite literally, 377 00:23:48,359 --> 00:23:52,320 Speaker 1: to the fundamentals of how we govern, what do we 378 00:23:52,359 --> 00:23:55,280 Speaker 1: actually listen to? I always thought that was the right argument. 379 00:23:56,560 --> 00:24:03,560 Speaker 1: But this story here is is about what a guy 380 00:24:03,680 --> 00:24:06,240 Speaker 1: who served at the FBI from two thousand and four 381 00:24:06,280 --> 00:24:11,520 Speaker 1: to twenty seventeen, he was working as a consultant, traveled 382 00:24:11,520 --> 00:24:14,760 Speaker 1: to DC to support Trump. He stood in front of 383 00:24:14,760 --> 00:24:19,280 Speaker 1: the police line and screaming shame on you at police 384 00:24:19,640 --> 00:24:25,399 Speaker 1: and screamed kill him, get them, get them. Okay, couple 385 00:24:25,440 --> 00:24:28,240 Speaker 1: things here. I don't know who this dude is, who 386 00:24:28,560 --> 00:24:30,480 Speaker 1: served at the FBI from two thousand and four to 387 00:24:30,520 --> 00:24:35,560 Speaker 1: twenty seventeen, telling law enforcement, you guys are disgusting. I'm 388 00:24:35,600 --> 00:24:38,520 Speaker 1: former law enforcement. You're disgusting. You are the Nazi, you 389 00:24:38,560 --> 00:24:42,080 Speaker 1: are the Gestapo. If you want to charge this guy 390 00:24:42,080 --> 00:24:45,840 Speaker 1: with a crime, go out a head. If you want 391 00:24:45,880 --> 00:24:48,359 Speaker 1: to say he was engaged in any level of violence, attack, 392 00:24:48,920 --> 00:24:52,080 Speaker 1: go right ahead. What in the world does any of 393 00:24:52,080 --> 00:24:55,199 Speaker 1: this have to do with Jim Banks, Todd Young or me. 394 00:24:56,840 --> 00:25:01,240 Speaker 1: This is the story that's so much of what you 395 00:25:01,280 --> 00:25:07,000 Speaker 1: see on social media has no connection to anything else, 396 00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:11,240 Speaker 1: nothing else, no connection to reality, is certainly no connection 397 00:25:11,359 --> 00:25:16,840 Speaker 1: to you. I have argued, you know, I shouldn't say argue, 398 00:25:16,880 --> 00:25:21,159 Speaker 1: because it's fact. I have stated that the leftist, the 399 00:25:21,200 --> 00:25:24,600 Speaker 1: hardcore leftist progressive, That's how I usually described it, right 400 00:25:24,680 --> 00:25:27,760 Speaker 1: to cover all the bases. The leftist hates you for 401 00:25:27,840 --> 00:25:30,920 Speaker 1: who you are and what you believe. But most importantly, 402 00:25:31,560 --> 00:25:35,320 Speaker 1: they hate you for not thinking like they do. That 403 00:25:35,480 --> 00:25:40,199 Speaker 1: those are the facts, that's what they hate most. But 404 00:25:40,240 --> 00:25:44,560 Speaker 1: what I guess I mean, I started discussing that more 405 00:25:44,600 --> 00:25:48,239 Speaker 1: than a decade ago, right fifteen years ago. What I 406 00:25:48,280 --> 00:25:50,800 Speaker 1: didn't add on to that, because I would not have 407 00:25:50,880 --> 00:25:53,760 Speaker 1: known it at the time, was that they get so 408 00:25:53,960 --> 00:25:57,840 Speaker 1: blinded by the hate they cannot see, nor can they think. 409 00:25:59,040 --> 00:26:04,000 Speaker 1: Everything to them is a nail because they see themselves 410 00:26:04,040 --> 00:26:07,159 Speaker 1: as the hammer, and all they're doing is just blindly 411 00:26:07,359 --> 00:26:09,800 Speaker 1: like a game of whack a mole, hitting what they 412 00:26:09,880 --> 00:26:14,119 Speaker 1: can bang, bang, It's all the same. It doesn't matter 413 00:26:14,440 --> 00:26:17,560 Speaker 1: that the story, that the context, that the conversation, that 414 00:26:17,640 --> 00:26:22,800 Speaker 1: the discussion doesn't actually connect if you are not one 415 00:26:22,840 --> 00:26:25,320 Speaker 1: thousand percent in favor of what they are in favor 416 00:26:25,359 --> 00:26:27,479 Speaker 1: of at the moment they are in favor of it, 417 00:26:28,600 --> 00:26:30,840 Speaker 1: because what they favor changes from day to day based 418 00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:33,879 Speaker 1: on their emotions. If you don't favor that thing that 419 00:26:33,920 --> 00:26:36,560 Speaker 1: they are in favor of in the moment, at the 420 00:26:36,600 --> 00:26:39,639 Speaker 1: moment they favor it, you're a Nazi. Because look how 421 00:26:39,640 --> 00:26:41,960 Speaker 1: they utilize the term. They don't care about the Holocaust. 422 00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:45,000 Speaker 1: They don't want to engage the Holocaust. The NEA has 423 00:26:45,040 --> 00:26:48,320 Speaker 1: admitted they want to teach the Holocaust without talking about Jews, 424 00:26:48,640 --> 00:26:52,399 Speaker 1: as if somehow it happened just in a vacuum and 425 00:26:52,480 --> 00:26:55,760 Speaker 1: Hitler was going after everybody. No, he was going after Jews. 426 00:26:56,080 --> 00:26:59,479 Speaker 1: Other people got killed, but he was going after Jews. 427 00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:02,679 Speaker 1: In the ANA of the National Education Association under Rebeccah 428 00:27:02,680 --> 00:27:07,240 Speaker 1: Pringle doesn't want to teach that, so they'll call everybody 429 00:27:07,320 --> 00:27:10,600 Speaker 1: a Nazi to denigrate what took place in the Holocaust 430 00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:12,639 Speaker 1: and to get you to think that Nazi is just 431 00:27:12,680 --> 00:27:15,919 Speaker 1: a bad person as opposed to these specific group of filthy, 432 00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:20,719 Speaker 1: low life animals who had an objective following Hitler. They 433 00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:23,359 Speaker 1: don't want to teach the Holocaust. They want to denigrate 434 00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:26,480 Speaker 1: the Holocaust, and then the Nazi is just the all 435 00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:29,520 Speaker 1: purpose term for bad guy. And all these leftists can 436 00:27:29,640 --> 00:27:32,439 Speaker 1: utilize whatever terminology they want, or explanation they want, or 437 00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:36,280 Speaker 1: definition they want based on their emotions to describe what 438 00:27:36,280 --> 00:27:38,920 Speaker 1: it is they're feeling, and then Nazi just fits that thing. 439 00:27:39,400 --> 00:27:41,840 Speaker 1: That's why they called it went from global warming to 440 00:27:41,880 --> 00:27:44,720 Speaker 1: climate change. Why should it just be about warming. It 441 00:27:44,720 --> 00:27:46,480 Speaker 1: could be about cooling. It could be about rain, It 442 00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:48,240 Speaker 1: could be about sunshine. It can be about lightning. It 443 00:27:48,240 --> 00:27:50,240 Speaker 1: could be about wind, it can be about whatever we 444 00:27:50,359 --> 00:27:53,320 Speaker 1: call it climate change. We cover all our bases now 445 00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:56,359 Speaker 1: we don't have to engage any question of our emotional state. 446 00:27:56,560 --> 00:28:00,359 Speaker 1: It covers every part of our emotional state. I mean, 447 00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:03,479 Speaker 1: that's what happened. Now, maybe you never thought of it 448 00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:06,640 Speaker 1: that way, but the minute you hear it, you're like, yes, 449 00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:08,880 Speaker 1: it's exactly what happened. That's exactly it. That's exactly why 450 00:28:08,920 --> 00:28:12,760 Speaker 1: they did it. Now, for some of you, you already 451 00:28:12,800 --> 00:28:15,399 Speaker 1: knew that. You you saw that happen. For some people, 452 00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:17,920 Speaker 1: you're working, you have lives and it just not may 453 00:28:17,960 --> 00:28:21,520 Speaker 1: have connected. Remember I do this, I do this every day. 454 00:28:22,359 --> 00:28:24,160 Speaker 1: You get to turn off the radio. If I turn 455 00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:27,439 Speaker 1: off the radio, don't they don't pay me. That's I 456 00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:31,239 Speaker 1: think that's the difference between the two things. But it is. 457 00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:35,320 Speaker 1: I mean, that's what they do. They change the terminology 458 00:28:35,560 --> 00:28:40,240 Speaker 1: to be able to fit anything that they want to say. 459 00:28:41,160 --> 00:28:46,040 Speaker 1: A guy screaming at cops kill him? What does that 460 00:28:46,120 --> 00:28:50,360 Speaker 1: have to do with Senator Banks? Cenator Younger myself? Now, 461 00:28:50,520 --> 00:28:53,120 Speaker 1: you love how they caught he called this guy called 462 00:28:53,160 --> 00:28:57,080 Speaker 1: these two senators my heroes. What did I ever say 463 00:28:57,080 --> 00:29:00,760 Speaker 1: they were my heroes? Did ever said that day in 464 00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:03,800 Speaker 1: my life? I haven't liked them. I've agreed with them, 465 00:29:03,800 --> 00:29:05,880 Speaker 1: I've disagreed with them, I've pushed back on them. We 466 00:29:05,920 --> 00:29:08,760 Speaker 1: have had all sorts of conversations. You guys know, I'm 467 00:29:08,760 --> 00:29:11,000 Speaker 1: based in Indiana. I do a morning show in Indiana. 468 00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:15,320 Speaker 1: I've had these guys on numerous times. I just reached 469 00:29:15,360 --> 00:29:18,400 Speaker 1: out to Center her young staff today because he's in 470 00:29:18,440 --> 00:29:22,680 Speaker 1: the Philippines and there's some real shenanigans with the Chinese 471 00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:28,600 Speaker 1: Navy and the Philippines government, a collision that took place. 472 00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:33,200 Speaker 1: There's oh, there's a lot. There is a lot about 473 00:29:33,240 --> 00:29:36,400 Speaker 1: what China is trying to do that came full power 474 00:29:36,440 --> 00:29:40,400 Speaker 1: and engage total intimidation in the South China Sea Straights 475 00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:45,680 Speaker 1: of Taiwan. We're talking about beyond the hegemonic power. We're 476 00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:50,640 Speaker 1: into outrageous intimidation here. The Chinese needs to be dealt with. 477 00:29:51,120 --> 00:29:53,240 Speaker 1: But we'll get to that. So I'd reached out, like, hey, 478 00:29:53,560 --> 00:29:55,480 Speaker 1: can you talk and the answer was, well, he's still there. 479 00:29:55,480 --> 00:29:57,880 Speaker 1: He can't now maybe next week. I'm like, well next week. 480 00:29:58,200 --> 00:29:59,880 Speaker 1: Next week is next week. I want to talk. Now, 481 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:02,640 Speaker 1: come on, let's go, and we have phones and computers. 482 00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:07,680 Speaker 1: We can do this. But the whole hero thing, right, 483 00:30:08,080 --> 00:30:11,680 Speaker 1: no connection to reality. It doesn't have to. It just 484 00:30:11,880 --> 00:30:16,040 Speaker 1: made him feel good because he's so emotional. I assume 485 00:30:16,080 --> 00:30:20,400 Speaker 1: it's a heat Hey, that could be a Karen, that 486 00:30:20,400 --> 00:30:22,320 Speaker 1: could be a liberal white woman. You know it as 487 00:30:22,320 --> 00:30:26,680 Speaker 1: well as I do. It makes them feel good. They 488 00:30:26,720 --> 00:30:29,480 Speaker 1: have to get these emotions out because they have no 489 00:30:29,560 --> 00:30:33,520 Speaker 1: capacity to control their emotions. And why should they have 490 00:30:33,640 --> 00:30:37,160 Speaker 1: to measure their words based on the subject at hand? 491 00:30:37,600 --> 00:30:40,840 Speaker 1: Why should it be difficult for them to express themselves? 492 00:30:41,400 --> 00:30:43,920 Speaker 1: So you shrink up the dictionary. I mean, we're getting 493 00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:47,160 Speaker 1: very Orwellian, right. You shrink these things up or you 494 00:30:47,240 --> 00:30:50,680 Speaker 1: increase the capacity for a word to cover all things, 495 00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:56,440 Speaker 1: and there you go. It also plays into the dehumanization game. 496 00:30:57,160 --> 00:31:04,360 Speaker 1: Republicans are fascists, Republicans are aren't human, Republicans are vermin 497 00:31:05,080 --> 00:31:07,360 Speaker 1: these kinds of things, which is exactly what the Nazis 498 00:31:07,360 --> 00:31:10,920 Speaker 1: did to the Jews. It's funny how they complain about 499 00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:13,320 Speaker 1: the fascists yet look at them, which is the second 500 00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:17,520 Speaker 1: part of this. Everything the left does, every single thing 501 00:31:17,560 --> 00:31:23,680 Speaker 1: the left does, is projection. Everything what we say you're 502 00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:26,440 Speaker 1: doing is what we're actually doing. Go back to this story, 503 00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:31,040 Speaker 1: which I do not defend. You're there yelling at cops 504 00:31:31,120 --> 00:31:37,360 Speaker 1: kill them. My gosh, that's obscene. You should be charged. 505 00:31:38,760 --> 00:31:42,520 Speaker 1: There should at least be investigation, and we would agree 506 00:31:42,560 --> 00:31:44,360 Speaker 1: with that, maybe people on the right and people on 507 00:31:44,400 --> 00:31:47,760 Speaker 1: the left would agree with that. But we had entire 508 00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:51,600 Speaker 1: cities burned during the George Floyd riots, and the left 509 00:31:51,680 --> 00:31:54,760 Speaker 1: told us, well, a riot is just the voice of 510 00:31:54,800 --> 00:31:58,720 Speaker 1: the unheard. In a total manipulation of the words of 511 00:31:58,720 --> 00:32:02,240 Speaker 1: Martin Luther King Jr. We were told that setting buildings 512 00:32:02,280 --> 00:32:07,120 Speaker 1: on fire, the events were mostly peaceful. We were told 513 00:32:07,320 --> 00:32:10,200 Speaker 1: that it was wrong for you to say goodbye to 514 00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:14,400 Speaker 1: your dying grandmother because of COVID, But five thousand people 515 00:32:14,440 --> 00:32:18,800 Speaker 1: could gather without masks because you know, it wasn't really 516 00:32:18,840 --> 00:32:21,080 Speaker 1: a health risk. It it was fine, It was healthy, 517 00:32:21,080 --> 00:32:25,080 Speaker 1: and it was good for them. The manipulations were everywhere. 518 00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:28,680 Speaker 1: What they do is fine, and what you do is 519 00:32:28,720 --> 00:32:31,880 Speaker 1: a crime. What you do is evil. And if you 520 00:32:31,920 --> 00:32:33,960 Speaker 1: notice what they do, why are you always staring at us? 521 00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:36,200 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, you're so obsessed with us, dear lord, 522 00:32:36,240 --> 00:32:39,400 Speaker 1: you and your culture wars. You see how this works, 523 00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:43,280 Speaker 1: you see how it plays out. So yeah, this was 524 00:32:43,360 --> 00:32:47,880 Speaker 1: the weirdness that I received today. I mean, I guess 525 00:32:47,880 --> 00:32:50,680 Speaker 1: I should be thankful that it's just this and it's 526 00:32:50,720 --> 00:32:55,520 Speaker 1: not the standard anti Smitic you hate that I often get. Oh, 527 00:32:55,560 --> 00:33:02,560 Speaker 1: I get a I get a fair amount more than some, 528 00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:04,880 Speaker 1: not as much as others. I would argue, in the main, 529 00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:08,440 Speaker 1: not as much as others. Right, Maybe because I don't 530 00:33:08,480 --> 00:33:11,320 Speaker 1: have the stature that they have, Maybe because my arguments 531 00:33:11,360 --> 00:33:16,120 Speaker 1: are different. I don't know. I get some, so I 532 00:33:16,120 --> 00:33:19,600 Speaker 1: would argue more than some, But I would also clearly 533 00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:22,720 Speaker 1: say not as much as as others. So this doesn't 534 00:33:22,720 --> 00:33:26,760 Speaker 1: fit into that realm. I'm assuming that'll come next. This 535 00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:32,440 Speaker 1: is just just the madness, and this madness will not 536 00:33:32,560 --> 00:33:34,360 Speaker 1: just come for me because I'm on radio. It will 537 00:33:34,360 --> 00:33:39,520 Speaker 1: come for you because the left, unable to express themselves, 538 00:33:39,600 --> 00:33:43,720 Speaker 1: unable to control their emotions, must lash out. And whoever 539 00:33:43,760 --> 00:33:46,520 Speaker 1: they lash out at it doesn't matter because the lashing 540 00:33:46,560 --> 00:33:49,000 Speaker 1: out is also how they view how good and decent 541 00:33:49,080 --> 00:33:51,160 Speaker 1: they are. Look what a good person I am. I 542 00:33:51,240 --> 00:33:53,920 Speaker 1: lashed out at that person. They now know how terrible 543 00:33:53,960 --> 00:33:57,400 Speaker 1: they are. Look at me. I'm a hero speaking of 544 00:33:57,400 --> 00:34:01,760 Speaker 1: people who think they're heroes. So that's just the latest 545 00:34:01,800 --> 00:34:04,640 Speaker 1: crazy Keep it here. This is Tony Katz today. 546 00:34:05,080 --> 00:34:09,200 Speaker 3: Something you just mentioned the cities that he's calling out 547 00:34:09,239 --> 00:34:11,040 Speaker 3: and the cities that he's focused on, as you mentioned, 548 00:34:11,040 --> 00:34:12,040 Speaker 3: many of them black mayors. 549 00:34:12,080 --> 00:34:15,440 Speaker 1: Do you think there's race driving this? You know, I 550 00:34:15,440 --> 00:34:16,759 Speaker 1: think there is. 551 00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:20,080 Speaker 3: I won't say that's like the totality of it, but 552 00:34:20,160 --> 00:34:22,440 Speaker 3: I absolutely think it is. You're trying to create a 553 00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:26,200 Speaker 3: counterpoint often in politics, and what is a better counterpoint 554 00:34:26,239 --> 00:34:29,600 Speaker 3: than Donald Trump in whatever way you see him and 555 00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:32,520 Speaker 3: a mayor. Black women mayors have been the subject of 556 00:34:32,600 --> 00:34:35,359 Speaker 3: lots of attacks. I think Karen Bass from really the 557 00:34:35,360 --> 00:34:38,240 Speaker 3: moment President Trump came to office in LA as someone. 558 00:34:38,120 --> 00:34:40,440 Speaker 1: Who's had to deal with that back and forth. He 559 00:34:40,600 --> 00:34:41,480 Speaker 1: likes to pick fights. 560 00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:44,320 Speaker 3: I think he sees the situation where there's that distinction. 561 00:34:44,600 --> 00:34:46,320 Speaker 3: And by the way, this is one of the best 562 00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:48,200 Speaker 3: fights to pick because what I have to sit in 563 00:34:48,280 --> 00:34:50,360 Speaker 3: front of you and say is, yes. 564 00:34:50,160 --> 00:34:51,560 Speaker 1: There are homicides in my city. 565 00:34:51,640 --> 00:34:54,040 Speaker 3: Yes there is crime, but we don't think the same 566 00:34:54,080 --> 00:34:55,839 Speaker 3: prescription of health is necessary. 567 00:34:56,400 --> 00:34:59,480 Speaker 1: The idea that you can tell us, Mayor Lucas of 568 00:34:59,560 --> 00:35:03,359 Speaker 1: Kansas that there's crime and the answer is not more 569 00:35:03,440 --> 00:35:08,000 Speaker 1: law enforcement, not a more aggressive push. Well, what exactly 570 00:35:08,080 --> 00:35:10,400 Speaker 1: is it? Because we've tried your way and your way sucks. 571 00:35:10,960 --> 00:35:13,640 Speaker 1: Tony Katz, Tony Kats today, good to be with you. 572 00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:19,200 Speaker 1: And Trump is picking on black mayors. Karen Bass is terrible. 573 00:35:19,520 --> 00:35:23,720 Speaker 1: Karen Bass trained herself under the thoughts of Fidel Castro. 574 00:35:24,280 --> 00:35:27,160 Speaker 1: Karen Bass let the city burn of Los Angeles. She 575 00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:29,760 Speaker 1: let it burn. She problems, she wouldn't leave the country, 576 00:35:29,800 --> 00:35:34,000 Speaker 1: and she did. Nothing has been rebuilt in eight months 577 00:35:34,560 --> 00:35:38,240 Speaker 1: in Los Angeles. And Karen Bass can't keep the peace. 578 00:35:38,600 --> 00:35:40,640 Speaker 1: The fact that she's black, that should keep her from 579 00:35:40,640 --> 00:35:44,000 Speaker 1: any type of what conversation about how bad she is? 580 00:35:44,920 --> 00:35:47,840 Speaker 1: There are bad white mayors. I live in Indianapolis. Trust me, 581 00:35:47,880 --> 00:35:51,279 Speaker 1: I know. And there are bad black mayors, there are 582 00:35:51,320 --> 00:35:54,720 Speaker 1: good Black mayors and good white mayors. This is about race. 583 00:35:55,320 --> 00:35:59,160 Speaker 1: These people won't stop and Trump should not stop cleaning 584 00:35:59,239 --> 00:36:02,440 Speaker 1: up DC and we should not stop voting these progressives 585 00:36:02,440 --> 00:36:06,200 Speaker 1: out of our cities. Find everything at Tony kats dot com. Tomorrow, everyone, 586 00:36:06,320 --> 00:36:06,680 Speaker 1: take care