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Speaker 1: On ninety three five and one oh seven five the Fan,

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Speaker 1: They Seized a Fan Morning Show with kbi Hab and Jeff.

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Speaker 2: Seventy nine seventy four.

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Speaker 3: Feaver going zone, Evans drives pass deflected by Powers, Powers

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Speaker 3: ahead of the pack, with Young chasing her down Powers,

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Speaker 3: Lads and head and unbelievably it's a one possession game.

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Speaker 3: Beaver can tire take the lead, far sideline, pull the abounder, scanning, scanning, scanning.

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Speaker 4: Bounce pass gets it into SAMs.

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Speaker 5: Will sit trying to go for the steal.

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Speaker 3: Sim shriving shot gun six.

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Speaker 4: Seconds ago on the game, it's signed at eighty six.

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Speaker 3: Young handling at the pale E'd spins leader off class.

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Speaker 5: No fault into the air.

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Speaker 2: No, but by more minutes on the clock.

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Speaker 3: This game is going to overtime pass right block Howard,

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Speaker 3: She's double ski pass Petty at the logo, A dribble

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Speaker 3: fires a three did fntals for it overtime Vegas one

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Speaker 3: oh seven, Indiana Tiny eight and is Indiana fever Seeds

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Speaker 3: twenty twenty five.

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Speaker 5: Persevering ru so much.

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Speaker 6: They have been an absolute joy to coach.

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Speaker 7: It's an incredible group of women, an incredibly connected group.

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Speaker 7: They're a great example to everybody what it means to

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Speaker 7: just put one foot in front of the other, to persevere,

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Speaker 7: to welcome people into the fold, to not give in

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Speaker 7: to circumstance, to lead with grace and dignity, to sacrifice

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Speaker 7: for a greater good and a common good. I'm just

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Speaker 7: I'm so thankful to coach these women, and I'm just

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Speaker 7: thankful for this experience with them.

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Speaker 4: What doesn't kill your exercid?

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Speaker 2: Well, Good morning.

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Speaker 8: After a very late night from many Indianapolis fans last

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Speaker 8: night watching the Indiana Fever, the Las Vegas Aces, a

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Speaker 8: lot of Major League based well playoff action, all kinds

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Speaker 8: of things going on, we are coming to you live

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Speaker 8: this morning on the Morning Show from deep inside Lucas

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Speaker 8: Oil Stadium, where we'll be talking a little bit later

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Speaker 8: on today about the Horizon League and what they've got

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Speaker 8: coming up for their men's and women's basketball seasons, and

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Speaker 8: of course some big news regarding the NCAA Women's tournament

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Speaker 8: that we'll get to in just a few minutes. But

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Speaker 8: good morning, Kevin Bowen, Good morning, James Boyd back in

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Speaker 8: the studio.

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Speaker 2: Good morning, Mark dyked and it was.

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Speaker 8: A late night last night, James, and I will say this,

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Speaker 8: this Fever team battered, bruised, losing players left and right

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Speaker 8: through the last month of the season.

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Speaker 2: They just never went away.

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Speaker 8: They came up and overtime play short of winning Game

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Speaker 8: five in Las Vegas. It's crazy that team just fought

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Speaker 8: and scratched and clawed and would not go away Vegas, Vegas.

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Speaker 8: Ace has finally got it done in overtime. But man,

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Speaker 8: what a performance.

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Speaker 9: Really Yeah, it's certainly a seam that I will never forget,

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Speaker 9: just the way that they were able to rally together,

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Speaker 9: especially after Kelsey Mitchell exex that game in the third

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Speaker 9: quarter didn't return. She had severe cramping from what Stephanie

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Speaker 9: White told us after the game. But I'm not gonna lie.

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Speaker 9: I was like, oh man, here it is again. You know,

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Speaker 9: Tyre's Halliburton. They don't have the best player. They're gonna

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Speaker 9: start getting waxed, and they just kept scratching. Clawn Obyssey Sims,

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Speaker 9: how about that probably one of the best games. I's

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Speaker 9: not the best game of her career to get them

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Speaker 9: into that overtime, but just round of gas there at

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Speaker 4: I'm sorry, she must be living right.

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Speaker 9: I tweeted that last night because she hit some prayers

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Speaker 9: that only God could answer in that overtime period to

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Speaker 9: finally put out the fever. But hell of a season

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Speaker 9: and really the epitome of a team. I think you

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Speaker 9: can learn a lot from that, whether you are, you know,

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Speaker 9: a little kid watching them or you're an adult like

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Speaker 9: we are enjoying what those women were doing out there.

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Speaker 8: Well, I know we all stayed up, we all watched it,

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Speaker 8: and I don't know about you, Kevin, You've been here

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Speaker 8: for a long time. There was a point where they

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Speaker 2: Of waved that off. They did help her off, and it.

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Speaker 8: Turns out it was just severe cramping so bad you

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Speaker 2: But for a moment, you're like, what's going on with us?

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Speaker 8: You know, all the Andrew Luck injuries that kind of

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Speaker 8: recent history with Tyrese Haliburton and then the driving leader

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Speaker 8: of your run here to what you hoped would be

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Speaker 10: Yeah, there was an audible cuss word for Matty Bowne

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Speaker 10: at about eleven thirty last night when Kelsey Mitchell went

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Speaker 5: That effect of like how why to us again?

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Speaker 10: And yeah, I sat there watching the rest of the game,

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Speaker 10: and I'm like, oh my gosh, they're not going away.

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Speaker 5: I mean, here they are, you know, having opportunities.

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Speaker 10: I mean, if I'm not mistaken, I want to say

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Speaker 10: in regulation. As James pointed out that Ace has hit

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Speaker 10: some just herculean shots. Frankly, I mean, come on, and overtime.

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Speaker 10: I get those guards are gifted, and I know Jackie

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Speaker 10: Young has lit up Indiana scoreboards for her entire life,

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Speaker 10: but oh my gosh, some of those shots, the Aces

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Speaker 10: made it over time. So you know, the the the

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Speaker 10: feeling when I was all said and done was a

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Speaker 10: like you get all the way to the brink and

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Speaker 10: then just all of the hurdles you had to clear

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Speaker 10: looks like Kelsey Mitchell has avoided what you know, my

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Speaker 10: initial thought was James, which was certainly the Halliburton. Especially

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Speaker 10: when you see the striccher come out, you what the

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Speaker 10: bleep is going on right here? So you know, in

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Speaker 10: To get overly, overly dramatic, maybe with the storyline of

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Speaker 10: two professional basketball teams here in town he called sappy,

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Speaker 10: call it whatever you want, but there are two very

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Speaker 10: inspirational stories.

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Speaker 4: What we just witnessed this past season of.

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Speaker 10: Resilience, of hard work, of overcoming anything, of never giving up.

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Speaker 4: And in a day and age.

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Speaker 10: Where people writ professional sports a lot, particularly professional basketball,

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Speaker 5: So I'm sure we'll get there.

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Speaker 10: But damn, just watching that last night, it's like, is

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Speaker 8: It was crazy And as far as the game flow

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Speaker 8: the fever at that point in time.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, I was fine with that foul call. I thought

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Speaker 9: saying to lose both at that moment. Yeah, absolutely, I'll

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Speaker 9: get into that, but yeah, I think that call was fine.

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Speaker 9: And I was I was, hey, you said a moving screen,

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Speaker 9: and ANS thought that Kelsey should have waited a little

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Speaker 9: put your big man in a tough spot there.

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Speaker 4: But the foul call that got.

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Speaker 2: Of the law.

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Speaker 4: It is a foul.

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Speaker 9: But I also think that if you don't call that

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Speaker 9: how physical the WNBA can be and the stuff they

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm like, and you know, no one wants to

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Speaker 4: see that. So that was a huge blow.

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Speaker 9: But again the response after that was even more impressive

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Speaker 4: Enough good things about her.

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Speaker 4: Honestly last night.

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Speaker 9: I mean she took that impressed on quite the trip

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Speaker 9: pun intended, because everything she did down the stretch was

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Speaker 9: if only that were like a two for one situation

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Speaker 9: aces would drain the clock down. In my goodness, Jackie

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Speaker 9: But then going overtime, I did personally think that, like, man,

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Speaker 9: and I'm like, you all haven't.

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Speaker 4: Made these shots all game. So that's what championship teams do.

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Speaker 11: Now.

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Speaker 9: They're going for their third championship in four years. But

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Speaker 9: I certainly will not remember, not forget. I'm sorry, Severtine,

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Speaker 9: because it was a hell of a ride. And also

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Speaker 9: with all the CBA stuff going on going into next year,

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Speaker 9: you don't know when we're gonna see the WNBA again

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Speaker 9: outside of these finals, and so to have that as

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Speaker 12: You bring that up, pretty dramatic day for the WNBA

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Speaker 12: and Jamily lasher Daynfisa Collier in her media exit interview,

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Speaker 12: just started with a statement and she basically said, and

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Speaker 12: I'm paraphrasing here, we have the worst leadership in all

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Speaker 8: She talked about her personal dissatisfaction after a conversation she

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Speaker 8: had with the commissioner of the WNBA, Cavey Angler, earlier

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Speaker 8: this year, where She said she was told by the commissioner,

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Speaker 8: y'all should be grateful for me forgetting this TV deal

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Speaker 8: for you and Caitlin's lucky she has the WNBA, or

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Speaker 8: she wouldn't have a platform to make the sixteen million

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Speaker 8: dollars that she makes with Nike. And she came out

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Speaker 8: scorched earth and talked about conversations they'd had and literally

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Speaker 8: called her Kevin the worst leader in all of professional sports.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, she talked about Kathy Engelbert like I talked about

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Speaker 10: Bally Sports.

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Speaker 2: It was.

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Speaker 10: It was quite quite the statements and she did not

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Speaker 10: if the Fever will have exit meetings, James, I don't

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Speaker 9: Yeah, we all know the needle mover is number twenty

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Speaker 2: Wish we would have ended it differently, but how do

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Speaker 13: I love him. I did not make the end of

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Speaker 13: Once the Kelsey Mitchell injury happened, I'm like, I think

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Speaker 2: That's Kevin and I were talking about that when we

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Speaker 5: But yeah, you can't say you're surprised by all.

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Speaker 13: Right, I've lived that for thirty something years.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely.

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Speaker 10: I quickly went to the Just don't get Roy hallidayed

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Speaker 2: No, man, Kevin, you are how old though?

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Speaker 13: Okay, so you were six years old? The lesson the

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Speaker 5: And now I'm like, you pull me right back? Yeah,

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Speaker 13: Get I'm just happy they made it. There is a

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Speaker 8: The National I'm going to read it how big that

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Speaker 8: You get you get crazy things happening major Baseball. You

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Speaker 8: I will ask this, what is give me the two

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Speaker 13: Well, what happens with the Horizon League is what happens

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Speaker 13: You're like, hey, these are the ones you have to

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Speaker 2: Yore on ESPN Plus.

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Speaker 13: There's your good news after last night's floing.

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Speaker 2: I needed that right to make you feel better. Thank you, brother, dude,

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Speaker 13: Slightly off camera the rest of the day. Since you

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Speaker 8: There is Craig rag Straw, the one, the only coming

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Speaker 8: Oil Stadium. We are deep within the basement of Lucas

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Speaker 2: For the Horizon League meetings.

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Speaker 8: They got all kinds of men's and women's basketball and

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Speaker 2: How you doing.

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Speaker 6: I'm doing great. I mean, we're doing basketball on a

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Speaker 8: That you need this amount of space to do basketball here.

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Speaker 2: That's right, So that works.

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Speaker 6: I think that that'll be whatever we want, right, Yeah,

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Speaker 10: it's almost like, let me get out my map and

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Speaker 10: let me get out my teams and see where everybody

445
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Speaker 10: is how important has that been?

446
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Speaker 4: Like from a footprint.

447
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Speaker 10: If you look on a map, you can kind of

448
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Speaker 10: see everybody's within a bus ride of Cortev Coliseum or

449
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Speaker 10: right whatever here in the city of Mindianapolis.

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Speaker 6: It is intentional, and because we are still dealing with

451
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Speaker 6: student athletes who have class, Like yesterday, one of the coaches,

452
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Speaker 6: we had an event for them last night here at

453
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Speaker 6: the stadium, and one of the coaches said, yeah, as

454
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Speaker 6: soon as our student athletes finished class, we got in

455
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Speaker 6: the car and drove here was Moni from Detroit. I mean,

456
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Speaker 6: so we are trying to balance the pressures of showing

457
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Speaker 6: up to go to class, other things on campus, and

458
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Speaker 6: then obviously plan high level Division one basketball. So the

459
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Speaker 6: geography matters when we talk about membership. Geography matters, basketball matters,

460
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Speaker 6: a profile matters. But yes, it's intentional to try to

461
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Speaker 6: keep this tight footprint.

462
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Speaker 9: Julie, the decision to expand your conference tournament, can you

463
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Speaker 9: explain a little bit more of like why that was

464
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Speaker 9: important for you all to do?

465
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Speaker 4: Well?

466
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Speaker 6: Our coaches have been clamoring for that. Now surprise you, James,

467
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Speaker 6: we don't want a chance to give the dance well,

468
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Speaker 6: and you know we do our early rounds on campus,

469
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Speaker 6: which has been great with the quarterfinals because the top

470
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Speaker 6: four seeds are hosting, it's usually packed arenas, and then

471
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Speaker 6: they're punching their ticket to come to Indy. What we

472
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Speaker 6: keep hearing from coaches though, is Indie's made this such

473
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Speaker 6: a great experience for the student athletes. They want to

474
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Speaker 6: bring more teams here. So that's what they've been pushing for.

475
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Speaker 6: So we said, all right, what if we jog before

476
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Speaker 6: we run? So let's expand it into just adding two

477
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Speaker 6: more games on Sunday with if the bracket holds, it'll

478
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Speaker 6: be a four or five game for both men and women.

479
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Speaker 6: And I think we can bring maybe a larger Indie

480
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Speaker 6: crowd with a Sunday afternoon doubleheader. So we're still figuring

481
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Speaker 6: out the details of it, but I think there's some

482
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Speaker 6: real opportunity here and then could we grow beyond that.

483
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Speaker 6: I sure hope. So, I mean, we've got to get

484
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Speaker 6: it's got to make sense financially, but I'm excited about

485
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Speaker 6: what this year could bring.

486
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Speaker 5: Last year I went to the men's championship game. Refresh

487
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Speaker 5: my memory.

488
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Speaker 10: Schedule wise, you guys, do is it the women around

489
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Speaker 10: two thirty for that championship game and the minute night

490
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Speaker 10: is that still going to be?

491
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Speaker 6: The women were at noon on ESPN two last year

492
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Speaker 6: and we scored a big with getting Debbie Antonelli as

493
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Speaker 6: our analyst on that game, and then the men are

494
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Speaker 6: at seven.

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Speaker 4: And that'll be the same format.

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Speaker 8: Yes, okay, Yeah, Julia ro Lash, the commissioner of the

497
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Speaker 8: Rising League, sitting with us here at Lucas Oil Stadium today.

498
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Speaker 8: You guys deal with it just like everybody else, kind.

499
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Speaker 2: Of in your own unique way.

500
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Speaker 8: But with all the student athlete movement these days, and

501
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Speaker 8: the nil and all that kind of stuff. We talked

502
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Speaker 8: a little bit about it last year at the tournament,

503
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Speaker 8: but we were just talking a great rakestraw. And nobody

504
00:21:45,040 --> 00:21:47,400
Speaker 8: knows what to think about the men's field this year

505
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Speaker 8: because there's been so much movement.

506
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Speaker 2: How does that how do you see that from your office?

507
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Speaker 2: Playing out?

508
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Speaker 6: Yeah, you know, it plays out a lot of different ways.

509
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Speaker 6: And one of course, our coaches, you know, we love

510
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Speaker 6: to honor our student athletes with first team, second team,

511
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Speaker 6: third team All League, but now we've just created a

512
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Speaker 6: roster for other programs to coach, and so it's a

513
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Speaker 6: double edged sword. Of course, you're still gonna do the

514
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Speaker 6: right thing and honor your top players. But of those

515
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Speaker 6: top players, a lot have gotten the pretty lucrative NIL

516
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Speaker 6: officers to offers to go play power for which great

517
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Speaker 6: for them. And then hats off to our coaches because

518
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Speaker 6: they go out and they recruit both they bring in

519
00:22:23,359 --> 00:22:25,399
Speaker 6: high school talent, but we've got a lot of talent

520
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Speaker 6: coming in from the transfer a portal too. I mean,

521
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Speaker 6: the portal does. It's a two way street because at

522
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Speaker 6: the end of the day, student athletes want to play

523
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Speaker 6: and if they're in a program where they're not getting

524
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Speaker 6: their playing time and they know they can come here

525
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Speaker 6: and have an experience on ESPN and play in major cities,

526
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Speaker 6: that can be attractive to them. So it's still tough.

527
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Speaker 6: I mean, the uncertainty is become just a fact of life.

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Speaker 2: The NIL aspect of it.

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Speaker 8: Though obviously you don't have the budgets that an SEC

530
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Speaker 8: team has or a Big ten team has, So for

531
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Speaker 8: your programs, what's been the most difficult part of navigating.

532
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Speaker 6: NIL, Well, the first decision is how do we as

533
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Speaker 6: a league come together and make a decision. And because

534
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Speaker 6: what we talked and this was last fall actually literally

535
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Speaker 6: our meetings with our presidents and ads, and I said,

536
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Speaker 6: I think we all have to opt in. Right, That

537
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Speaker 6: was the phrase of are you going to opt in

538
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Speaker 6: to give nil payments or not? And thankfully our ads

539
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Speaker 6: and presidents, obviously with support of our coaches, said yes,

540
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Speaker 6: we're opting in. So what does that mean. It means

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Speaker 6: our schools can give direct NIL payments to student athletes

542
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Speaker 6: and you can still have the third party collectives going.

543
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Speaker 6: And that's what we have. We have both. And to

544
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Speaker 6: your point, where's the money coming from?

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Speaker 14: What we found?

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Speaker 6: Is there a donor base out there who actually preferable Yeah,

547
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Speaker 6: sure we'll take them. I mean, we're open, but there's

548
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Speaker 6: a donor base that likes the idea of nil. You know,

549
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Speaker 6: Robert Morris capitalized on winning our championship and then nearly

550
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Speaker 6: beating Alabama of course in Pittsburgh, so they had an

551
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Speaker 6: incredible fan base there that was like a launching pad

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Speaker 6: for their NIL efforts.

553
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Speaker 10: Wow, Julie, it's probably a question that commissioners around college

554
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Speaker 10: sports in your position think about, and it's probably a

555
00:24:04,720 --> 00:24:07,760
Speaker 10: bit of an unfair question. But if I gave you

556
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Speaker 10: the crystal ball and said five to seven years, where

557
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Speaker 10: are we at in college athletics, and where's the Horizon

558
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Speaker 10: lea gat within that footprint? Do you have any idea,

559
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Speaker 10: like do you have confidence in predicting what that could

560
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Speaker 10: look like because it seems like so much unknown right.

561
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Speaker 6: Yes, I agree with that. I do think we will.

562
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Speaker 6: We're still going to have college sports because that's one

563
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Speaker 6: question of and I think a reason for that is

564
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Speaker 6: the Horizon League. We've been leading a ten conference effort

565
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Speaker 6: in a coalition in Congress. I feel like I've now

566
00:24:38,840 --> 00:24:40,800
Speaker 6: gone back to school and back to law school with

567
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Speaker 6: constitutional law lately. But I do think that Congress is

568
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Speaker 6: going to pass and act by the end of twenty

569
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Speaker 6: twenty six which will bring some stability to college sports.

570
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Speaker 6: And the three big pieces of that are that act

571
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Speaker 6: will say student athletes are in fact not employees. Federal

572
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Speaker 6: law preemp state law. So these state laws that pop

573
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Speaker 6: up that say you can do this, you can do that, Nope,

574
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Speaker 6: we need we need to recalibrate on that point. And

575
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Speaker 6: then we need a little bit of liability protection from

576
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Speaker 6: all these lawsuits to keep coming towards Division one and

577
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Speaker 6: the NCAA. So if those three things happen, which I

578
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Speaker 6: think they will, I am an optimist but I think

579
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Speaker 6: that'll happen. Then the question is, Okay, how does NIL

580
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Speaker 6: continue to unfold in this space? I think student athletes

581
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Speaker 6: will continue to obviously get paid as they should for

582
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Speaker 6: their NIL, but I do think it's going to stabilize

583
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Speaker 6: a bit soon and that no NOT employees just continue

584
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Speaker 6: to get paid for their name, image likeness, by schools,

585
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Speaker 6: by third parties do the deals, which I think is

586
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Speaker 6: a good thing. Will we all stay together as a division?

587
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Speaker 6: I think that's really the big question for those of

588
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Speaker 6: us inside, especially in the strong mid major space. I

589
00:25:42,160 --> 00:25:45,159
Speaker 6: think we will, in particular in basketball. Well football truly

590
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Speaker 6: split into its own thing. That's possible, But I think

591
00:25:48,119 --> 00:25:51,359
Speaker 6: that there's a recognition with all of the leaders across

592
00:25:51,359 --> 00:25:54,199
Speaker 6: Division one, we got to keep March Madness together. That

593
00:25:54,359 --> 00:25:58,440
Speaker 6: is really special, that has now become part of Americana.

594
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Speaker 6: And I'm watching co which can't be walked by right now.

595
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Speaker 6: You know you want the you want the opening moment

596
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Speaker 6: of beating Kentucky. We got to keep that opportunity there

597
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Speaker 6: and our teams show up and compete. So I do

598
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Speaker 6: think that we're still going to have the beauty of

599
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Speaker 6: March Madness.

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Speaker 5: Keep it at sixty eight if I could add one more, or.

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Speaker 6: I like sixty eight, but I think i'm I vote

602
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Speaker 6: for that. I'm losing that battle.

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Speaker 5: You think seventy two, I think.

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Speaker 6: It's going to expand, probably seventy two to seventy six.

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Speaker 4: Oh lord, everything gets bigger. I feel like coarse badness.

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Speaker 6: I think what we're going to see is what happens

607
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Speaker 6: in Dayton happen in a few more places, which isn't

608
00:26:30,160 --> 00:26:33,560
Speaker 6: bad either, because because those are some good parody games.

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Speaker 8: You're gonna have very upset teams that don't make the

610
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Speaker 8: field of seventy two.

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Speaker 4: Now I told you some of.

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Speaker 5: The names in this state that probably need it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, field here.

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Speaker 4: I won't get into any name.

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Speaker 9: I was going to say, you know, part of college athletics,

616
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Speaker 9: I think that we love is arguing about you know,

617
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Speaker 9: what's what's right.

618
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Speaker 4: What's wrong?

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Speaker 6: And I should have gotten it exactly.

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Speaker 9: But one thing I do want to follow up on,

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Speaker 9: Julie is my sister actually wents to Northern Illinois, so

622
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Speaker 9: I know a lot about the cow Us.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 9: So when you have the decision to add school, what

625
00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:03,159
Speaker 9: goes into that decision, because obviously it has to be

626
00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:04,640
Speaker 9: a two way street for both parties.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, it's so you know, it starts first of all,

628
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Speaker 6: it does start with the presidents and our ads just

629
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Speaker 6: looking at are we the right size, what's our stability

630
00:27:14,320 --> 00:27:16,520
Speaker 6: as a league. Do we have risk of schools leaving?

631
00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:18,600
Speaker 6: So there's always that issue. Like to me, it's a

632
00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:22,160
Speaker 6: retention strategy. But then also we thought, you know, we've

633
00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:26,280
Speaker 6: been twelve before, it's that is probably the right number

634
00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:29,800
Speaker 6: when you look at scheduling opportunity and I and I

635
00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:33,440
Speaker 6: you brought back to Chicago market and as we talked about,

636
00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:35,639
Speaker 6: it's just now we're a seven state footprint, but to

637
00:27:35,720 --> 00:27:39,160
Speaker 6: have Chicago market back for exposure point for our schools

638
00:27:39,320 --> 00:27:42,600
Speaker 6: a lot of value add there. They've committed to investing

639
00:27:42,640 --> 00:27:45,879
Speaker 6: in basketball, which they need to do. Obviously football is

640
00:27:45,880 --> 00:27:47,840
Speaker 6: strong for them. They're moving that to the Mountain West.

641
00:27:48,160 --> 00:27:50,160
Speaker 6: But you got to make sure there's the alignment there

642
00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:52,040
Speaker 6: on a lot of different pieces. And then we talked

643
00:27:52,040 --> 00:27:54,679
Speaker 6: to early about geography that matters. So it is not

644
00:27:54,920 --> 00:27:58,479
Speaker 6: just a pure checklist. A lot of visits, quiet visits

645
00:27:58,600 --> 00:28:01,760
Speaker 6: by made to their campus with their AD president, then

646
00:28:01,800 --> 00:28:04,800
Speaker 6: connecting their president with our board chair, and then eventually

647
00:28:04,840 --> 00:28:08,160
Speaker 6: it's an a D presidential vote, so a lot of

648
00:28:08,520 --> 00:28:11,920
Speaker 6: behind the scenes going on at that higher level.

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Speaker 8: Hey, last thing for Ever, let you go. I know

650
00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:15,240
Speaker 8: you're a huge fan. We were all talking about it

651
00:28:15,320 --> 00:28:17,400
Speaker 8: during the break. I know you stayed up with late

652
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Speaker 8: last night. As someone who's been in athletics your whole

653
00:28:20,440 --> 00:28:23,480
Speaker 8: life and is from around here, how do you not

654
00:28:23,560 --> 00:28:25,919
Speaker 8: love that any Unfever team. I know they lose last night,

655
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Speaker 8: but man.

656
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Speaker 6: I'm a season ticket holder and got I've got the

657
00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:31,679
Speaker 6: app on my phone, looking at all the stats all

658
00:28:31,680 --> 00:28:34,240
Speaker 6: the time. I'm so proud of them what they've done,

659
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Speaker 6: I think for not just that franchise, but women's basketball

660
00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:40,200
Speaker 6: in the league. I mean, of course we were all

661
00:28:40,280 --> 00:28:43,800
Speaker 6: upset when Caitlin was out for the season, going to games.

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Speaker 6: I was just at the games Friday and Sunday and

663
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Speaker 6: seeing the fans come out and support that team with

664
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Speaker 6: players who weren't on at the beginning of the season, right,

665
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Speaker 6: I mean, and by the way, Shaye Petty played at

666
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Speaker 6: Right State for a year.

667
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Speaker 4: Okay, so we've got.

668
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Speaker 6: Some Raiders big moments last night, I said, remember her

669
00:29:01,800 --> 00:29:04,920
Speaker 6: and Odyssey, I mean how and of course, I mean

670
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Speaker 6: Kelsey's just an Aliah true All Stars. I mean I'm

671
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Speaker 6: I'm just so proud of what they did. Of course

672
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Speaker 6: we wanted them to make it to the finals, but

673
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Speaker 6: you got heads held high right now.

674
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Speaker 8: And you think about the beginning of that fourth quarter.

675
00:29:16,120 --> 00:29:19,640
Speaker 8: Aliah Bostin's on the bench with five fouls. Kelsey Mitchell's

676
00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:22,440
Speaker 8: back in the locker room being tended to with severe cramps,

677
00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:25,680
Speaker 8: sitting next to Leah Boston. You have Caitlin Clark in

678
00:29:25,720 --> 00:29:29,600
Speaker 8: street clothes, you have Sophie in street clothes. Sidney Coulson's

679
00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:31,920
Speaker 8: not there, and you're going, how is this deam in

680
00:29:31,960 --> 00:29:34,960
Speaker 8: game five of the Eastern Conference? Not the Eastern guy

681
00:29:35,040 --> 00:29:37,479
Speaker 8: keeps saying that, but the semi finals, how are they

682
00:29:37,520 --> 00:29:37,800
Speaker 8: doing that.

683
00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:41,560
Speaker 6: Against the Aces in Vegas? I mean, and that team

684
00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:44,040
Speaker 6: is so stacked, like to me that was and that

685
00:29:44,440 --> 00:29:48,280
Speaker 6: against Steph White. I mean, you talk about she's the

686
00:29:48,320 --> 00:29:50,840
Speaker 6: what she's doing in that locker room to bring that

687
00:29:50,880 --> 00:29:54,400
Speaker 6: team together, that's just she's just I think, hats off

688
00:29:54,400 --> 00:29:55,760
Speaker 6: to her from a coaching standpoint.

689
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Speaker 2: Thanks for stuffing, Mike, go ahead.

690
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Speaker 10: I was just gonna ad this on stuff. You know,

691
00:29:58,920 --> 00:30:01,560
Speaker 10: they flashed up the effic last night. You had the

692
00:30:01,680 --> 00:30:03,880
Speaker 10: number one score in Indian high school basketball.

693
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Speaker 2: And Jackie Young.

694
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Speaker 10: Stephanie White's four all time, Dane Evans is five, and

695
00:30:08,520 --> 00:30:09,800
Speaker 10: here they are playing off.

696
00:30:09,680 --> 00:30:11,080
Speaker 4: And that's semi finals.

697
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Speaker 10: And I mentioned this a little bit earlier, Julie, like

698
00:30:13,280 --> 00:30:15,320
Speaker 10: they played that audio of Stephanie White in the huddle

699
00:30:15,360 --> 00:30:18,400
Speaker 10: post Kelsey Mitchell injury, and that was just like, inject

700
00:30:18,440 --> 00:30:21,680
Speaker 10: that into my veins, Like that was, yeah, he's got

701
00:30:21,800 --> 00:30:24,280
Speaker 10: chills front and like hearing that, I'm like, and I

702
00:30:24,320 --> 00:30:25,760
Speaker 10: was watching the game with my wife and she's like,

703
00:30:25,760 --> 00:30:27,240
Speaker 10: oh my gosh, they're gonna do this, Like like.

704
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Speaker 5: Yes, it kind of had yes, yes.

705
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Speaker 10: You know, you kind of felt like they were going

706
00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:33,680
Speaker 10: to And usually I'm not one that immediately goes to

707
00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:36,920
Speaker 10: the movie side of it, but it's hard not to watch.

708
00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:39,840
Speaker 5: That all unfold and think it was truly a movie

709
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Speaker 5: like season.

710
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Speaker 4: So I just thought that was We're.

711
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Speaker 6: Fortunate to have them, I mean, and that's I mean,

712
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Speaker 6: sky's the limit obviously in terms of the future. Thanks

713
00:30:47,440 --> 00:30:49,640
Speaker 6: for stoppage.

714
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Speaker 8: So a lot of people today are gonna be hitting

715
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Speaker 8: rights go. Thank you, thanks for coming by as always,

716
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Speaker 8: Thank you, probably talk to you again around the tournament time.

717
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Speaker 6: It's great, alrighty sounds good, and.

718
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Speaker 8: We are alive at Lucas Soil Studium this morning. The

719
00:31:03,080 --> 00:31:05,400
Speaker 8: Horizon League having all their meetings here, media days and

720
00:31:05,400 --> 00:31:09,120
Speaker 8: all those kinds of things. Wintertime sports men's women's basketball

721
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Speaker 8: of course, getting ready to start, and we'll talk a

722
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Speaker 8: little bit more about that later on today. But I

723
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Speaker 8: do want to turn our attention a little bit now

724
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Speaker 8: to the Colts. They need to turn the Today is

725
00:31:19,240 --> 00:31:21,280
Speaker 8: kind of like turn the page day, right, James Boyd,

726
00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:23,720
Speaker 8: You've done everything you can do with the Rams. Now

727
00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:25,040
Speaker 8: you just got to move on to the Raiders.

728
00:31:25,360 --> 00:31:26,800
Speaker 9: Yeah, you can't harp on it too much, but I'm

729
00:31:26,800 --> 00:31:30,680
Speaker 9: certainly curious to see again, Jeff, just a fallout from

730
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Speaker 9: that game in LA because you have decisions to make

731
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Speaker 9: when it comes to Adie Mitchell and Xavion Howard, and

732
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Speaker 9: I would lean probably more toward Xavon Howard being the

733
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Speaker 9: bigger issue because Adie Mitchell, you look at the snaps.

734
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Speaker 9: I want to say, he played more snaps against the

735
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Speaker 9: Rams than he did in the first three weeks, combined

736
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Speaker 9: with the healthy Alec Pearson. So if you decide to

737
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Speaker 9: binge him for a week or not play him, I

738
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Speaker 9: would understand that, and it really wouldn't in my opinion,

739
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Speaker 9: affect you as much as perhaps you know, deciding to

740
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Speaker 9: move on from Xavion Howard because he is a much

741
00:32:00,560 --> 00:32:03,040
Speaker 9: bigger role for this team, and so far he has

742
00:32:03,080 --> 00:32:05,240
Speaker 9: not played that role that role very well.

743
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Speaker 4: You know, I believe he was when.

744
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Speaker 9: He was getting targeted last week, gave up ninety six

745
00:32:09,280 --> 00:32:12,240
Speaker 9: yards and coverage six of nine passing the passer ratings

746
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Speaker 9: through the roof, and then two weeks to go against

747
00:32:13,920 --> 00:32:16,480
Speaker 9: the Broncos, I was gonna Pro Football Reference they have

748
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Speaker 9: it at seven of seven when targeting him, and so

749
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Speaker 9: that's just not tenable for a guy you relying on

750
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Speaker 9: to be such a big role in your defense.

751
00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:26,160
Speaker 10: Well again, you can question obviously Geno Smith's level of

752
00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:28,560
Speaker 10: quarterback play, but Gino Smith's a veteran in this league.

753
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Speaker 10: Next week, Kyler Murray the week after that, justin Herbert.

754
00:32:31,600 --> 00:32:32,680
Speaker 4: Those dudes ain't idiots.

755
00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:35,920
Speaker 10: If Zach Woar's on the field, they're gonna pepper him

756
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Speaker 10: with those targets.

757
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Speaker 4: So I think that's the storyline.

758
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Speaker 10: I guess we should mention because I know people asked

759
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Speaker 10: us eighty Mitchelding Zaven Howard are both still in the

760
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Speaker 10: football team. As we said, there on this Wednesday, and

761
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Speaker 10: typically James, you make your roster moves by Wednesday, you

762
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Speaker 10: know the Colt Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Practice.

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Speaker 4: To be clear, I didn't personally think that either.

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Speaker 10: I want to be like I'm referring to the questions,

766
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Speaker 10: but yes, that we did get they are both still here.

767
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Speaker 10: I do think the lou Ana Roumo some of that

768
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Speaker 10: audio that he shared with us yesterday is worth getting into.

769
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Speaker 10: Maybe here coming up in the eight o'clock hour. And

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Speaker 10: I guess my bigger picture question and I guess it

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Speaker 10: goes to both Howard and Mitchell, probably more Mitchell James.

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Speaker 4: Is this in Shane Steigen's eyes?

773
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Speaker 10: Was the accountability he had ad Mitchell do on Monday

774
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Speaker 10: speak to the team.

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Speaker 4: Speak in front of the team? Yeah? Is that enough?

776
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Speaker 4: Or is there more?

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Speaker 10: Like we always hear the buzzword accountability and coaches, you know,

778
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Speaker 10: it's one of the core beliefs. We got to be accountable.

779
00:33:34,440 --> 00:33:36,920
Speaker 10: I need to be accountable, players need to So is

780
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Speaker 10: speaking in front of the team enough for what ad

781
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Speaker 10: Mitchell did or has done? Because frankly, I think there's

782
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Speaker 10: more than just one action? Or does Shane Stikeen think

783
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Speaker 10: there needs to be more there? And to your point, yes,

784
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Speaker 10: Adie Mitchell, when everyone's healthy, he's not playing a very

785
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Speaker 10: big role. But do you take it a step further?

786
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Speaker 10: And a step further would be having him an active

787
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Speaker 10: for a game. In my opinion, is that does he

788
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Speaker 10: feel like acountability needs to be acted upon more than

789
00:34:02,760 --> 00:34:05,000
Speaker 10: just hey, two minutes in front of your team on

790
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Speaker 10: a Monday morning.

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Speaker 4: I'm very curious to see the reaction to that.

792
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Speaker 9: And I will say it sounds like Adie Mitchell took

793
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Speaker 9: it upon himself to stand up before the team, not

794
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Speaker 9: you know, Shane saying, hey, you got a you know,

795
00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:16,400
Speaker 9: a nudget. I'm like, all right, get up, man, you

796
00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:19,200
Speaker 9: gotta say something. So he took that initiative himself from

797
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Speaker 9: my understanding. But to your point, Kevin, I have like

798
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Speaker 9: the Kendrick Lamar TV off song in my head, and

799
00:34:25,880 --> 00:34:29,279
Speaker 9: in the song he goes it's not enough over and

800
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Speaker 9: over again. So I'm not sure if that is enough,

801
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Speaker 9: because this isn't the first time that Ady has made

802
00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:38,919
Speaker 9: sort of like the mental mistake that is a big

803
00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:41,480
Speaker 9: one for this team. I mean, that's kind of defined

804
00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:43,680
Speaker 9: his career so far. Unfortunately, I was going back through

805
00:34:43,960 --> 00:34:47,520
Speaker 9: the transfer from Shane Stikeen saying, Hey, this mistake doesn't

806
00:34:47,520 --> 00:34:51,080
Speaker 9: define you as a person, and that much is true,

807
00:34:51,320 --> 00:34:54,640
Speaker 9: but as a player it does. I mean, when he

808
00:34:54,719 --> 00:34:57,560
Speaker 9: made that play, all of us were like, oh, yeah,

809
00:34:57,600 --> 00:34:59,400
Speaker 9: you would be the one to make that play. And

810
00:34:59,400 --> 00:35:01,799
Speaker 9: that's unfortunate circumstance for Adie Mitchell. And so again we

811
00:35:01,880 --> 00:35:04,520
Speaker 9: asked Shane's talking about it. We'll ask him again today,

812
00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:08,160
Speaker 9: but he was noncommittal about him being active in Week

813
00:35:08,160 --> 00:35:08,960
Speaker 9: five against the Raiders.

814
00:35:08,960 --> 00:35:10,880
Speaker 8: How much that has to do with the health of

815
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Speaker 8: Alec Pierce though, at the end of the day, like

816
00:35:12,600 --> 00:35:14,480
Speaker 8: if a is ready to go, it's easier to shut

817
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Speaker 8: him down.

818
00:35:15,239 --> 00:35:17,000
Speaker 10: Right, That is certainly a part of it. And again,

819
00:35:17,120 --> 00:35:18,960
Speaker 10: you know James mentioned the snap counts. I want to

820
00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:21,160
Speaker 10: say he played like James. I want to say it

821
00:35:21,200 --> 00:35:23,520
Speaker 10: was like eight or nine snaps one of those games

822
00:35:23,560 --> 00:35:25,200
Speaker 10: the first couple of weeks of the season.

823
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Speaker 4: I forget which game it was.

824
00:35:26,640 --> 00:35:29,919
Speaker 10: So yes, when everyone is healthy, you know, obviously Michael

825
00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:32,440
Speaker 10: Pittman Junior or Alec Pearson Josh downs are dominating those

826
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Speaker 10: wide receiver snap counts, and often Ashton Doolan is pretty

827
00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:37,600
Speaker 10: similar to ad Mitchell. Anyways, I guess the question would

828
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Speaker 10: be justice Ashton Dulan eat up even more of those

829
00:35:40,680 --> 00:35:42,480
Speaker 10: you know, number four whiteouts.

830
00:35:42,560 --> 00:35:45,799
Speaker 9: And I will say this, Ashton Doolan is way more

831
00:35:45,840 --> 00:35:48,680
Speaker 9: reliable and played special team exactly, so he might not

832
00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:50,920
Speaker 9: be as talented, and I don't think he is like

833
00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:54,319
Speaker 9: physically as gifted as Adie Mitchell. But it comes down

834
00:35:54,360 --> 00:35:57,279
Speaker 9: to similar to what you want at quarterback. Do you

835
00:35:57,320 --> 00:35:59,440
Speaker 9: want the more reliable guy who may not have the

836
00:35:59,520 --> 00:36:02,160
Speaker 9: highest hides compared to the other guy, or do you

837
00:36:02,200 --> 00:36:04,600
Speaker 9: want to still give eighty Mitchell a chance to kind

838
00:36:04,600 --> 00:36:07,319
Speaker 9: of grow while still playing this upcoming week.

839
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Speaker 4: So we'll see for sure.

840
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Speaker 9: But one thing I do want to PIVO two real quick,

841
00:36:11,000 --> 00:36:13,080
Speaker 9: Kevin is the interview with Lou and Romo, so that

842
00:36:13,120 --> 00:36:16,839
Speaker 9: the information we were sort of able to glean from

843
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Speaker 9: Shane about the possibility of eighty Mitchell not being active,

844
00:36:20,640 --> 00:36:23,160
Speaker 9: that was interesting. But Lou, I mean, we're asking about

845
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Speaker 9: Xavion Howard and we heard everything but the fact that

846
00:36:28,200 --> 00:36:32,200
Speaker 9: you could possibly bene him, So it sounds like he's still,

847
00:36:32,239 --> 00:36:34,400
Speaker 9: you know, in that camp. And I get that publicly

848
00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:37,719
Speaker 9: you should probably say these things, but I think that

849
00:36:37,760 --> 00:36:41,759
Speaker 9: it would probably be a really really hard thing to sell.

850
00:36:41,840 --> 00:36:44,360
Speaker 9: Putting Xavin Howard back onto the field as a starter,

851
00:36:44,520 --> 00:36:46,960
Speaker 9: because to me, he just has to produce like one.

852
00:36:47,120 --> 00:36:50,440
Speaker 9: He's been very, very poor in coverage. And it's not

853
00:36:50,560 --> 00:36:52,480
Speaker 9: just the eye test. I mean every statue, look at

854
00:36:52,520 --> 00:36:54,839
Speaker 9: every site you go to back set up. But when

855
00:36:54,840 --> 00:36:57,160
Speaker 9: we were asking my accent point blank, you know, is

856
00:36:57,200 --> 00:36:59,759
Speaker 9: dis tenable, and he was like, well, we evaluate everybody.

857
00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:02,160
Speaker 9: You know, it's a team effort. I gotta be better.

858
00:37:02,200 --> 00:37:02,759
Speaker 9: We got to be better.

859
00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:03,279
Speaker 4: He gave a lot of.

860
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Speaker 9: Credit to the RAMS and I'm like, okay, but you know,

861
00:37:07,120 --> 00:37:09,440
Speaker 9: Geno Smith isn't a scrub. You know, this isn't a

862
00:37:09,480 --> 00:37:12,040
Speaker 9: guy who you could just throw anybody out there against

863
00:37:12,040 --> 00:37:14,399
Speaker 9: and he's just gonna be okay with that. So I'm

864
00:37:14,560 --> 00:37:16,800
Speaker 9: very curious to see what that means for Examon Howard

865
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Speaker 9: and how they hold him accountable, because through the first

866
00:37:20,239 --> 00:37:22,480
Speaker 9: four weeks, I would honestly say he has not earned

867
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Speaker 9: the right to be a starter in the NFL.

868
00:37:24,560 --> 00:37:28,160
Speaker 8: You know, it's crazy. It makes you wonder what they

869
00:37:28,239 --> 00:37:30,600
Speaker 8: see in practice from their younger guys that are not

870
00:37:30,680 --> 00:37:32,680
Speaker 8: getting a lot of play. Right now, we're so far

871
00:37:33,160 --> 00:37:36,040
Speaker 8: leving on Ruma is like, yeah, I'm not comfortable putting

872
00:37:36,040 --> 00:37:39,120
Speaker 8: that guy out there quite yet. Does that speak to

873
00:37:39,160 --> 00:37:40,799
Speaker 8: you a little bit, Kevin, that they just they're not

874
00:37:41,120 --> 00:37:44,279
Speaker 8: comfortable with their younger guys, that they're not utilizing all

875
00:37:44,320 --> 00:37:44,760
Speaker 8: that much.

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00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:47,759
Speaker 10: Yeah, I mean maybe that has something to do with it.

877
00:37:47,880 --> 00:37:50,480
Speaker 10: But you know, to me, I don't.

878
00:37:50,200 --> 00:37:51,640
Speaker 2: Think this is just hard headedness.

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Speaker 5: I don't think he can get any worse.

880
00:37:53,200 --> 00:37:53,640
Speaker 4: Frankly.

881
00:37:53,680 --> 00:37:55,919
Speaker 10: I mean, James has pointed out the Examon Howard numbers.

882
00:37:55,960 --> 00:37:57,920
Speaker 10: I want to say, the passer ratings like one twenty

883
00:37:58,000 --> 00:38:00,279
Speaker 10: something when targeting him this year. For those I don't

884
00:38:00,360 --> 00:38:02,360
Speaker 10: keep in track of passer rating, that is his story.

885
00:38:02,360 --> 00:38:04,080
Speaker 10: I mean that's yeah, that goes up.

886
00:38:04,040 --> 00:38:06,120
Speaker 4: To one fifty. So anything over one hundred.

887
00:38:05,880 --> 00:38:08,120
Speaker 10: Is Mr Jackson's the NFL record just over one hundred,

888
00:38:08,280 --> 00:38:10,840
Speaker 10: and we're talking like one o two versus like one twenty.

889
00:38:10,920 --> 00:38:13,480
Speaker 10: So but as James said, we can get in this

890
00:38:13,520 --> 00:38:15,520
Speaker 10: audio more than the eight o'clock hour last Steven Holder

891
00:38:15,520 --> 00:38:15,759
Speaker 10: about it.

892
00:38:15,800 --> 00:38:17,680
Speaker 5: On the other side, I didn't get that.

893
00:38:17,960 --> 00:38:21,440
Speaker 10: I mean, Loui and Roumo did not practice public accountability

894
00:38:21,600 --> 00:38:24,480
Speaker 10: in regards to xaviing Howard comments yesterday, that was definitely

895
00:38:24,800 --> 00:38:27,120
Speaker 10: not there. I did think his answer on why they

896
00:38:27,160 --> 00:38:32,560
Speaker 10: shadowed more of DeVante Adams versus Pukinakua was at least interesting.

897
00:38:32,760 --> 00:38:34,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, I kind of understand it.

898
00:38:34,560 --> 00:38:37,920
Speaker 10: Coming up around eight thirty, but yeah, there's certainly some

899
00:38:37,960 --> 00:38:39,000
Speaker 10: decisions for the Colts to make.

900
00:38:39,080 --> 00:38:40,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, we're gonna talk more Colts in a minute.

901
00:38:40,560 --> 00:38:42,960
Speaker 8: Stephen Holder is going to stop by and give us

902
00:38:42,960 --> 00:38:45,360
Speaker 8: his thoughts on turning the page the Rams and getting

903
00:38:45,360 --> 00:38:47,480
Speaker 8: ready for the Raiders and who should be playing and

904
00:38:47,480 --> 00:38:49,279
Speaker 8: who won't be playing, and all those kinds of things.

905
00:38:49,280 --> 00:38:52,840
Speaker 8: Will also keep talking about last night's Fever game, losing

906
00:38:52,840 --> 00:38:56,799
Speaker 8: Game five in overtime to the Las Vegas Aces with

907
00:38:57,960 --> 00:38:59,880
Speaker 8: I don't know, James, would you say probably five or

908
00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:03,120
Speaker 8: six of their top seven players watching from the sidelines.

909
00:39:03,239 --> 00:39:05,360
Speaker 9: Yeah, it got to the point where I was thinking, ODYSSEYE.

910
00:39:05,360 --> 00:39:06,479
Speaker 9: SAMs just lead us home.

911
00:39:06,520 --> 00:39:09,600
Speaker 8: At this point, she may become one of their top players.

912
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Speaker 8: Keep trying like that. We'll take a quick time out

913
00:39:12,320 --> 00:39:15,480
Speaker 8: back from the Horizon League meetings at Lucas Soil Stadium

914
00:39:15,480 --> 00:39:16,960
Speaker 8: in a moment on ninety three five and one oh

915
00:39:17,000 --> 00:39:17,880
Speaker 8: seven five to the fan.

916
00:39:20,120 --> 00:39:21,880
Speaker 9: I think you know, one of the things we'll get

917
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Speaker 9: into with Stephen Holder here is just the fact that

918
00:39:24,960 --> 00:39:27,120
Speaker 9: they have made some decisions. I think when it comes

919
00:39:27,120 --> 00:39:28,920
Speaker 9: to Xavion Howard and Adie Mitchell.

920
00:39:29,239 --> 00:39:32,239
Speaker 8: Did you say, Stephen Holder, I believe he's joining us

921
00:39:32,239 --> 00:39:33,640
Speaker 8: now on the Payloss Liquors hotline.

922
00:39:33,680 --> 00:39:34,759
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'll throwing you a love there.

923
00:39:34,880 --> 00:39:37,720
Speaker 2: Good morning, Steven. How are you today?

924
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Speaker 15: I'm doing well. How you guys doing.

925
00:39:40,200 --> 00:39:42,320
Speaker 8: Hey, we're just hanging out at Lucas Soil Stadium, getting

926
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Speaker 8: an early jump on the game with the Raiders coming

927
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Speaker 8: up in a few days. But your thoughts on you know,

928
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Speaker 8: the only waiver wire action for the Colt yesterday is

929
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Speaker 8: to pick up a linebacker.

930
00:39:52,520 --> 00:39:55,400
Speaker 2: Nothing happening in the secondary. Were you surprised by that

931
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Speaker 2: at all?

932
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Speaker 15: No?

933
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Speaker 2: Not.

934
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Speaker 15: After talking to lou Anarumo, their defensive coordinator, I wasn't surprised.

935
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Speaker 15: I mean I thought that he didn't. I don't think

936
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Speaker 15: he said quite plainly that we're not making any moves,

937
00:40:10,040 --> 00:40:16,320
Speaker 15: but he certainly didn't indicate that anything was going to change. Look, ultimately,

938
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Speaker 15: Xavien Howard is in Indianapolis because of lou An Arumo,

939
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Speaker 15: And I mean certainly when Chris Ballard has told me

940
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Speaker 15: he had the history with him too, what he was

941
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Speaker 15: when he was a scout, he he scouted Avian Howard

942
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Speaker 15: and was definitely a big proponent of having him on

943
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Speaker 15: his team back then. But that was a long time ago,

944
00:40:40,120 --> 00:40:43,120
Speaker 15: and I don't think there's any relationship between then and now.

945
00:40:43,160 --> 00:40:47,520
Speaker 15: It doesn't matter. He was a great player. But if

946
00:40:47,520 --> 00:40:51,640
Speaker 15: you watched Sunday's game and didn't walk away thinking to yourself,

947
00:40:51,640 --> 00:40:54,600
Speaker 15: what are they doing, then I don't think you were watching.

948
00:40:55,719 --> 00:40:56,120
Speaker 4: I don't know.

949
00:40:56,360 --> 00:40:58,360
Speaker 15: I think it's absolutely insane.

950
00:40:59,320 --> 00:41:01,920
Speaker 10: Stevens said here on this Wednesday morning. I guess we

951
00:41:01,960 --> 00:41:04,439
Speaker 10: should know both guys are still on the football team.

952
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Speaker 5: I don't.

953
00:41:05,040 --> 00:41:07,319
Speaker 10: I didn't really have much debate about would they be,

954
00:41:07,440 --> 00:41:09,440
Speaker 10: but I know some people were asking those questions. So

955
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Speaker 10: now I'll go to the next step. Uh A B

956
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Speaker 10: or c xaving Howard ad Mitchell. A they're both benched

957
00:41:19,680 --> 00:41:28,800
Speaker 10: for Sunday. B neither are benched, or C one is benched. M.

958
00:41:29,040 --> 00:41:34,880
Speaker 15: I think Alex Pearce comes back and Ady Mitchell plays

959
00:41:35,400 --> 00:41:38,960
Speaker 15: very little, if at all, And I think Howard dress

960
00:41:39,040 --> 00:41:46,400
Speaker 15: and he does play, uh maybe plays but but sparingly. Yeah,

961
00:41:46,480 --> 00:41:48,239
Speaker 15: but of course that should be his role anyway, or

962
00:41:48,360 --> 00:41:50,040
Speaker 15: I was I guess supposed to be his role.

963
00:41:50,160 --> 00:41:53,279
Speaker 4: Yeah, we have assist and answers here. For Stephen Hall, well,

964
00:41:55,400 --> 00:41:57,680
Speaker 4: it already knew he barely plays.

965
00:41:58,120 --> 00:41:58,719
Speaker 2: Going to do it.

966
00:41:59,840 --> 00:42:01,959
Speaker 15: I I just don't think they're gonna do it with Howard.

967
00:42:02,000 --> 00:42:03,000
Speaker 15: I don't think they're gonna do it.

968
00:42:03,200 --> 00:42:03,680
Speaker 2: I just don't.

969
00:42:03,719 --> 00:42:06,840
Speaker 15: I mean, shouldn't they have done it after the after

970
00:42:06,840 --> 00:42:09,160
Speaker 15: the Dolphins game. Shouldn't they have done it after the

971
00:42:09,160 --> 00:42:10,000
Speaker 15: the Broncos game?

972
00:42:10,120 --> 00:42:10,319
Speaker 7: Right?

973
00:42:10,360 --> 00:42:11,040
Speaker 15: I mean they didn't, do?

974
00:42:11,040 --> 00:42:11,720
Speaker 5: You think with Howard?

975
00:42:12,200 --> 00:42:15,759
Speaker 10: Just like is the Howard stuff just like hesitancy with

976
00:42:15,840 --> 00:42:18,319
Speaker 10: Jonathan Edward. I mean you could even avoid Edwards if

977
00:42:18,320 --> 00:42:20,200
Speaker 10: you really wanted to, if you're nervous about an undrafted

978
00:42:20,200 --> 00:42:22,480
Speaker 10: free agent, which, to be faird Edwards the man played

979
00:42:22,520 --> 00:42:24,480
Speaker 10: what three snaps five snaps on Sunday, and he made

980
00:42:24,480 --> 00:42:26,160
Speaker 10: a play when he was out there more than David

981
00:42:26,200 --> 00:42:29,839
Speaker 10: Howard's done. You could and this is with Kenny Moore

982
00:42:29,840 --> 00:42:33,600
Speaker 10: out You could roll with Tchaveris Ward, Makai Blackman, and

983
00:42:33,640 --> 00:42:36,279
Speaker 10: Mike Hilton. Those could be your three corners. So you

984
00:42:36,280 --> 00:42:39,360
Speaker 10: think it's more of just like depth chart hesitancy, like

985
00:42:39,600 --> 00:42:40,600
Speaker 10: that's the issue there.

986
00:42:41,520 --> 00:42:44,440
Speaker 15: Well, so what I've been told and this is always

987
00:42:44,520 --> 00:42:47,120
Speaker 15: going to be true with lu An Remo he will

988
00:42:47,160 --> 00:42:50,719
Speaker 15: take veteran over young player pretty much nine times out

989
00:42:50,719 --> 00:42:54,080
Speaker 15: of ten. Now, the argument could be maybe this is

990
00:42:54,080 --> 00:42:58,560
Speaker 15: that one time because it's so bad, But I don't

991
00:42:58,600 --> 00:43:02,680
Speaker 15: know the history there tells us otherwise. Now zaa net words,

992
00:43:03,080 --> 00:43:06,200
Speaker 15: I would tell you he's someone that I have repeatedly

993
00:43:06,280 --> 00:43:09,080
Speaker 15: and I'm sure you have as well. I've repeatedly heard

994
00:43:09,280 --> 00:43:11,239
Speaker 15: good things about him and that they like him and

995
00:43:11,280 --> 00:43:14,759
Speaker 15: they think he has a bright future, to which I say, well,

996
00:43:14,840 --> 00:43:18,720
Speaker 15: let's see it. I get it, he's probably not completely ready,

997
00:43:19,480 --> 00:43:23,319
Speaker 15: but I mean, ultimately, I mean, did they think that

998
00:43:23,440 --> 00:43:25,319
Speaker 15: Jalen Jones was ready when they put him out there

999
00:43:25,320 --> 00:43:27,760
Speaker 15: as a seventh round pick and he ended up becoming

1000
00:43:27,800 --> 00:43:30,680
Speaker 15: a starter for two years? And I know he's hurt

1001
00:43:30,719 --> 00:43:34,560
Speaker 15: and he him coming back, which could happen I guess

1002
00:43:34,560 --> 00:43:36,600
Speaker 15: as soon as this week. But him coming back would

1003
00:43:36,600 --> 00:43:39,120
Speaker 15: certainly helped him. But he's not back yet, and it

1004
00:43:39,200 --> 00:43:42,160
Speaker 15: is what it is. But my point is it's not

1005
00:43:42,360 --> 00:43:45,799
Speaker 15: that different than putting Jalen Jones in. They're giving him

1006
00:43:45,840 --> 00:43:50,040
Speaker 15: an opportunity and living with the ups and downs initially

1007
00:43:50,360 --> 00:43:53,880
Speaker 15: until he became, you know, actually a pretty decent starter.

1008
00:43:54,880 --> 00:43:56,799
Speaker 15: I think you could maybe you know, look at that

1009
00:43:56,840 --> 00:44:00,080
Speaker 15: as an example here and go with the young guy.

1010
00:44:00,360 --> 00:44:03,279
Speaker 9: Absolutely, Steven, Oh, I think that is certainly something to

1011
00:44:03,280 --> 00:44:05,600
Speaker 9: think about. And really, I just go back to what

1012
00:44:05,880 --> 00:44:08,239
Speaker 9: everyone said about Lou coming into this. I get the

1013
00:44:08,280 --> 00:44:11,319
Speaker 9: whole he likes veterans over young guys. Wasn't it the

1014
00:44:11,320 --> 00:44:13,600
Speaker 9: same guy his first day saying I don't care about resumes,

1015
00:44:13,600 --> 00:44:15,320
Speaker 9: I don't care what you've done in the past, I don't.

1016
00:44:15,120 --> 00:44:17,560
Speaker 4: Care about your accolades. I care about what I see.

1017
00:44:17,640 --> 00:44:20,759
Speaker 9: And so what we're seeing right now is some really

1018
00:44:20,840 --> 00:44:24,040
Speaker 9: poor play from this team. And so to be able

1019
00:44:24,080 --> 00:44:27,160
Speaker 9: away from Ady Mitchell and he's even howell for a second,

1020
00:44:28,080 --> 00:44:32,800
Speaker 9: when you heard from Shane a couple of days ago, Stephen,

1021
00:44:33,000 --> 00:44:35,000
Speaker 9: when it comes to having tim men on the field.

1022
00:44:35,320 --> 00:44:37,280
Speaker 9: Now you were all over this, like how does this happen?

1023
00:44:37,280 --> 00:44:39,960
Speaker 9: You followed up with Lou Anroumo. They both took accountability.

1024
00:44:40,160 --> 00:44:42,799
Speaker 9: But looking back on that mistake, you know how much

1025
00:44:42,800 --> 00:44:44,439
Speaker 9: weight do you put on that in a game where

1026
00:44:44,440 --> 00:44:46,400
Speaker 9: again you give up a touchdown on that play and

1027
00:44:46,440 --> 00:44:47,480
Speaker 9: he lost with seven points.

1028
00:44:49,560 --> 00:44:54,279
Speaker 15: Look, I understand Lou's explanation, and he's possibly right that

1029
00:44:54,560 --> 00:44:56,959
Speaker 15: it might not have mattered because they were in man

1030
00:44:56,960 --> 00:45:01,120
Speaker 15: coverage and the eleventh defender wasn't going to be to

1031
00:45:01,120 --> 00:45:04,520
Speaker 15: to Atwell who scored that touchdown. That's that's plausible. It

1032
00:45:04,640 --> 00:45:08,480
Speaker 15: all makes a lot of sense. But you can imagine

1033
00:45:08,520 --> 00:45:12,759
Speaker 15: the confusion that the missing defender created out there and

1034
00:45:13,480 --> 00:45:17,520
Speaker 15: the apprehension before the snap. None of that helped you, okay.

1035
00:45:17,520 --> 00:45:22,000
Speaker 15: And he also made an important admission that cam Binam

1036
00:45:22,280 --> 00:45:24,920
Speaker 15: might have been leaning more toward the other side of

1037
00:45:24,960 --> 00:45:27,360
Speaker 15: the field as opposed to the middle of the field

1038
00:45:27,680 --> 00:45:30,920
Speaker 15: if that eleven defender was out there. Because they were

1039
00:45:30,920 --> 00:45:32,879
Speaker 15: missing a guy, he had to kind of stay right

1040
00:45:32,920 --> 00:45:34,960
Speaker 15: in the middle of the field. He's the only safety

1041
00:45:35,000 --> 00:45:39,400
Speaker 15: you remember, okay. So if you're worried about Puku ni

1042
00:45:39,480 --> 00:45:43,360
Speaker 15: Kua killing you, you can't go and cheat toward the

1043
00:45:43,400 --> 00:45:45,719
Speaker 15: other side of the field, which he might have otherwise

1044
00:45:45,880 --> 00:45:49,520
Speaker 15: done if Puka Nikua was double covered, which he was

1045
00:45:49,560 --> 00:45:53,080
Speaker 15: not because they were missing their eleven defender. Because how

1046
00:45:53,200 --> 00:45:55,680
Speaker 15: that happens in the NFL, I have no idea in

1047
00:45:55,760 --> 00:45:59,000
Speaker 15: that scenario off the tight end seeing off of a timeout.

1048
00:45:59,800 --> 00:46:04,080
Speaker 15: I think it was an unforgivable situation, absolutely embarrassing, humiliating,

1049
00:46:04,239 --> 00:46:09,040
Speaker 15: and they should be shamed. I'm sorry I'm being harsh,

1050
00:46:09,360 --> 00:46:13,640
Speaker 15: but it needs to be dealt with harshly. And lou

1051
00:46:13,800 --> 00:46:15,920
Speaker 15: was embarrassed. He says, you know it should not happen

1052
00:46:15,920 --> 00:46:18,799
Speaker 15: in high school, let alone the NFL, and it will

1053
00:46:18,800 --> 00:46:21,960
Speaker 15: never happen again. He was embarrassed, And frankly, I respect

1054
00:46:22,040 --> 00:46:24,760
Speaker 15: lou Annrumo. He's been a great coach in this league,

1055
00:46:25,080 --> 00:46:26,840
Speaker 15: but he's rightly embarrassed.

1056
00:46:26,840 --> 00:46:31,000
Speaker 8: Here Stephen Holder joining us on the Payloss Lickers Hotline,

1057
00:46:31,040 --> 00:46:33,640
Speaker 8: and we are live from Lucas Oil Stadium for Horizon

1058
00:46:33,760 --> 00:46:35,560
Speaker 8: League meetings. But of course this building will host the

1059
00:46:35,640 --> 00:46:39,680
Speaker 8: Raiders and the Colts on Sunday four games. Sample size

1060
00:46:39,719 --> 00:46:42,560
Speaker 8: now wasn't as great in Game four as the first

1061
00:46:42,600 --> 00:46:44,840
Speaker 8: three games. But what are our thoughts right now in

1062
00:46:44,960 --> 00:46:47,560
Speaker 8: Daniel Jones in a realistic setting.

1063
00:46:47,280 --> 00:46:52,560
Speaker 15: Here, I actually feel exactly the same about Daniel Jones

1064
00:46:52,600 --> 00:46:56,239
Speaker 15: as I did going into that game. I always take

1065
00:46:56,320 --> 00:46:58,839
Speaker 15: the approach, and coaches will tell you this because they

1066
00:46:58,840 --> 00:47:02,960
Speaker 15: know it takes the approach. It's never as good as

1067
00:47:02,960 --> 00:47:05,400
Speaker 15: it looks, and it's never as bad as it looks.

1068
00:47:05,440 --> 00:47:09,960
Speaker 15: So when Daniel Jones was the supposed best quarterback in

1069
00:47:10,000 --> 00:47:12,919
Speaker 15: the NFL, of course part of me was like all right,

1070
00:47:13,120 --> 00:47:17,439
Speaker 15: they hold your horses, you know, relax. But I think

1071
00:47:17,520 --> 00:47:20,680
Speaker 15: we saw a more realistic example on Sunday. But frankly,

1072
00:47:20,719 --> 00:47:23,480
Speaker 15: I thought he was fine. He had an overthrow on

1073
00:47:23,520 --> 00:47:28,719
Speaker 15: that first interception that was on him. That's a quarterback interception.

1074
00:47:29,000 --> 00:47:31,520
Speaker 15: There are different kinds, right, That one was on him.

1075
00:47:31,600 --> 00:47:35,040
Speaker 15: It's a miss. The second one, I can live with it. Whatever,

1076
00:47:35,160 --> 00:47:38,480
Speaker 15: They're just trying to make a play. It's a you know,

1077
00:47:38,719 --> 00:47:41,840
Speaker 15: last minute situation. Those things happen. I'm not going to

1078
00:47:42,040 --> 00:47:44,719
Speaker 15: beat the guy up over that. I thought outside of

1079
00:47:44,719 --> 00:47:47,279
Speaker 15: that he was fine. You're not going to light the

1080
00:47:47,280 --> 00:47:50,760
Speaker 15: world on fire every Sunday. That was the best defense

1081
00:47:50,760 --> 00:47:54,399
Speaker 15: they have played by far. So, you know, to come

1082
00:47:54,400 --> 00:47:56,440
Speaker 15: out of that game feeling like, all right, that was

1083
00:47:56,480 --> 00:47:59,359
Speaker 15: an acceptable performance. I don't have a problem with that.

1084
00:47:59,560 --> 00:47:59,759
Speaker 13: You know.

1085
00:47:59,840 --> 00:48:05,440
Speaker 15: So I think offensively they are They're fine. They are fine.

1086
00:48:05,480 --> 00:48:10,480
Speaker 15: I thought that their offensive line had certainly more struggles

1087
00:48:10,520 --> 00:48:13,120
Speaker 15: than they have had, but I also think that's to

1088
00:48:13,200 --> 00:48:15,799
Speaker 15: be expected. That defensive line is really good the one

1089
00:48:15,840 --> 00:48:19,080
Speaker 15: they just faced. So no, that was fine. I don't

1090
00:48:19,080 --> 00:48:22,920
Speaker 15: have any big flags or red flags offensively. I can

1091
00:48:22,960 --> 00:48:24,560
Speaker 15: live with it.

1092
00:48:24,640 --> 00:48:24,920
Speaker 2: Of course.

1093
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Speaker 10: The voice of Stephen Holder ESPN with this year on

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Speaker 10: the Payless Lickors hot Line, Steven, I think maybe the

1095
00:48:31,160 --> 00:48:36,680
Speaker 10: most encouraging sign from Sunday was what laut Latu showed.

1096
00:48:36,800 --> 00:48:41,280
Speaker 10: And I feel like his emergence, it probably speaks for itself.

1097
00:48:41,280 --> 00:48:43,600
Speaker 10: But right now, with what you are getting and probably

1098
00:48:43,600 --> 00:48:47,239
Speaker 10: not getting from the other defensive ends quit he pay

1099
00:48:47,320 --> 00:48:49,960
Speaker 10: maybe a top that list, I think it's vital lat

1100
00:48:50,040 --> 00:48:53,560
Speaker 10: To becomes the guy. And I thought on Sunday, I

1101
00:48:53,560 --> 00:48:55,720
Speaker 10: thought he really really showed a ton of promise.

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00:48:57,080 --> 00:48:59,600
Speaker 15: I think that was the guy they have been promising us.

1103
00:49:00,200 --> 00:49:03,920
Speaker 15: That was what we saw on Sunday. And I know

1104
00:49:04,360 --> 00:49:06,680
Speaker 15: there might be people that say, oh, well, I mean

1105
00:49:06,680 --> 00:49:09,680
Speaker 15: they still through for a ton of yards and you know,

1106
00:49:09,719 --> 00:49:12,759
Speaker 15: they scored twenty seven points and all that's true. But

1107
00:49:12,840 --> 00:49:16,600
Speaker 15: I would say against a lesser quarterback than Matthew Stafford,

1108
00:49:16,640 --> 00:49:21,279
Speaker 15: that would have looked very differently, okay. And the part

1109
00:49:21,280 --> 00:49:24,040
Speaker 15: of the reality is that Matthew Stafford is one of

1110
00:49:24,040 --> 00:49:26,440
Speaker 15: the toughest quarterbacks you've ever seen in your life, and

1111
00:49:26,560 --> 00:49:29,800
Speaker 15: you can't fase him. If you're playing a different quarterback,

1112
00:49:30,000 --> 00:49:33,240
Speaker 15: they don't handle it. They don't handle that consistent pressure

1113
00:49:33,560 --> 00:49:37,279
Speaker 15: from La tou nearly as well as Stafford did, So

1114
00:49:37,600 --> 00:49:41,680
Speaker 15: I think that's a factor here to take that into account,

1115
00:49:41,000 --> 00:49:45,400
Speaker 15: and just honestly, I think putting it on tape it

1116
00:49:45,520 --> 00:49:50,200
Speaker 15: says something to your subsequent opponents. Now they have to

1117
00:49:50,239 --> 00:49:52,239
Speaker 15: start to make some choices, like if this is who

1118
00:49:52,239 --> 00:49:55,920
Speaker 15: he's going to be lat too, then okay, it's easy

1119
00:49:55,960 --> 00:49:58,319
Speaker 15: for us to double the forest fucker who had been

1120
00:49:58,320 --> 00:50:01,560
Speaker 15: getting doubled at ridiculous rate coming into that game. But

1121
00:50:02,360 --> 00:50:04,600
Speaker 15: it's easy to say, okay, we'll slide the protection to

1122
00:50:04,719 --> 00:50:08,719
Speaker 15: ninety nine. But if that comes at a cost of

1123
00:50:09,560 --> 00:50:12,080
Speaker 15: lots of beating you and taking over the game, well

1124
00:50:12,080 --> 00:50:13,920
Speaker 15: that's a tough decision now you have to make. So

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00:50:14,440 --> 00:50:17,360
Speaker 15: that's the kind of thing you want from your defense.

1126
00:50:17,400 --> 00:50:19,520
Speaker 15: You want to keep those other coaches up at night,

1127
00:50:19,800 --> 00:50:20,520
Speaker 15: and he can do that.

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Speaker 2: Steven, thanks as always for stopping by. Man.

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00:50:25,960 --> 00:50:28,640
Speaker 8: We appreciate it, as you know, and we'll see you.

1130
00:50:28,719 --> 00:50:31,000
Speaker 8: I will see you on Sunday. I suppose the guys

1131
00:50:31,000 --> 00:50:32,560
Speaker 8: here will see you later on today.

1132
00:50:33,719 --> 00:50:34,600
Speaker 15: All right, you got it.

1133
00:50:36,320 --> 00:50:37,160
Speaker 2: Along with the.

1134
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Speaker 8: Stars of the show, Kevin Bowen, James Boyd, Mark Dyke,

1135
00:50:40,320 --> 00:50:41,200
Speaker 8: and I'm Jeff Rickard.

1136
00:50:41,239 --> 00:50:42,080
Speaker 2: Happy to be with you.

1137
00:50:42,000 --> 00:50:45,239
Speaker 8: This morning from Lucas Oil Stadium where we are having

1138
00:50:45,320 --> 00:50:47,960
Speaker 8: the media days for the Horizon League basketball men and

1139
00:50:48,000 --> 00:50:51,080
Speaker 8: women's seasons. Getting ready to tip off pretty quickly here

1140
00:50:51,160 --> 00:50:55,360
Speaker 8: and very busy down here at the floor level of

1141
00:50:55,480 --> 00:50:57,680
Speaker 8: the stadium at this point in time. And we're also

1142
00:50:57,719 --> 00:50:59,960
Speaker 8: pleased to be joined now by Ben Howlett, who's with us,

1143
00:51:00,280 --> 00:51:03,279
Speaker 8: the new coach at IU Indy or I should say

1144
00:51:03,320 --> 00:51:06,600
Speaker 8: you Indy at this point in time, hiragula you, thank you.

1145
00:51:07,200 --> 00:51:08,160
Speaker 8: I'll get myself.

1146
00:51:07,920 --> 00:51:09,799
Speaker 2: Twisted in the pretzels before it's all a sudden done.

1147
00:51:09,800 --> 00:51:12,400
Speaker 2: But congratulations, man, welcome, welcome to Andy.

1148
00:51:12,560 --> 00:51:15,400
Speaker 11: Thank you, pleasure to be here and been here for

1149
00:51:15,400 --> 00:51:17,640
Speaker 11: a couple of months now, and it's been a busy

1150
00:51:17,680 --> 00:51:19,480
Speaker 11: couple months, but a really good couple months.

1151
00:51:19,560 --> 00:51:22,680
Speaker 8: Well, you're getting ready to play basketball really quickly here.

1152
00:51:22,880 --> 00:51:25,239
Speaker 8: I can only imagine this has been a whirlwind because

1153
00:51:25,239 --> 00:51:27,520
Speaker 8: you haven't been on the job all that long. What's

1154
00:51:27,560 --> 00:51:29,520
Speaker 8: it been like these first few months to try and

1155
00:51:29,800 --> 00:51:31,480
Speaker 8: hurry up and get ready and make it happen.

1156
00:51:31,640 --> 00:51:34,239
Speaker 14: Yeah, it's been a little overwhelming.

1157
00:51:34,680 --> 00:51:37,200
Speaker 11: Got the job late May early June and had one

1158
00:51:37,239 --> 00:51:40,160
Speaker 11: returner on my team, had a couple guys signed, so

1159
00:51:40,760 --> 00:51:44,080
Speaker 11: basically had to put together a whole roster within a month,

1160
00:51:44,120 --> 00:51:47,040
Speaker 11: and then we get seven weeks in the summer with

1161
00:51:47,120 --> 00:51:48,880
Speaker 11: our guys, so we had to practice in the summer,

1162
00:51:48,920 --> 00:51:49,320
Speaker 11: and then.

1163
00:51:49,760 --> 00:51:51,160
Speaker 14: Had to put together a staff too.

1164
00:51:51,280 --> 00:51:52,959
Speaker 11: So I had to put together a staff of five

1165
00:51:53,000 --> 00:51:55,719
Speaker 11: and got five really good assistant coaches. And on top

1166
00:51:55,760 --> 00:51:57,160
Speaker 11: of that, kind of like what we were talking about,

1167
00:51:57,280 --> 00:51:59,719
Speaker 11: I had a little girl about a month ago, so

1168
00:52:00,239 --> 00:52:02,560
Speaker 11: it's been pretty busy, but a good kind of busy.

1169
00:52:02,760 --> 00:52:03,320
Speaker 2: That's awesome.

1170
00:52:03,320 --> 00:52:06,399
Speaker 10: Congratulations certainly, Congrats to you, Congrats to the misses. Hoping

1171
00:52:06,400 --> 00:52:09,759
Speaker 10: everyone is healthy and doing well. Stylistically, I think one

1172
00:52:09,760 --> 00:52:11,640
Speaker 10: of the things I was struck by when you were hired,

1173
00:52:11,640 --> 00:52:13,520
Speaker 10: and I remember your name popping up the year prior

1174
00:52:13,920 --> 00:52:14,920
Speaker 10: in a coaching search.

1175
00:52:15,560 --> 00:52:19,880
Speaker 5: You play fast and you play the full core. Describe

1176
00:52:19,880 --> 00:52:20,759
Speaker 5: the style.

1177
00:52:20,560 --> 00:52:23,080
Speaker 10: For fans and maybe weren't plugged into West Liberty here

1178
00:52:23,120 --> 00:52:23,719
Speaker 10: in recent years.

1179
00:52:23,760 --> 00:52:24,399
Speaker 2: Yeah, and.

1180
00:52:26,560 --> 00:52:27,680
Speaker 14: It's called the system now.

1181
00:52:27,680 --> 00:52:29,239
Speaker 11: I think that's what it's going to as it's called

1182
00:52:29,239 --> 00:52:33,120
Speaker 11: the system and been ultra successful at the Division two level.

1183
00:52:33,120 --> 00:52:35,200
Speaker 11: I think there's a handful of teams that are running

1184
00:52:35,200 --> 00:52:37,160
Speaker 11: the system at the Division two level and they're all

1185
00:52:37,280 --> 00:52:41,279
Speaker 11: ultra successful. And basically what it is is from an

1186
00:52:41,280 --> 00:52:44,560
Speaker 11: offensive standpoint, you your five out, you know, open, open,

1187
00:52:44,600 --> 00:52:47,600
Speaker 11: post motion team, not pitching, hooling guys in the positions

1188
00:52:47,640 --> 00:52:50,399
Speaker 11: and kind of giving guys freedom to.

1189
00:52:50,400 --> 00:52:52,360
Speaker 14: Go out there and play rather than script the offense.

1190
00:52:52,400 --> 00:52:56,400
Speaker 11: And from a defensive perspective, we're pressing for forty minutes.

1191
00:52:56,960 --> 00:52:58,360
Speaker 14: It's a ninety four.

1192
00:52:58,200 --> 00:52:59,839
Speaker 11: Feet you know, we're not trying to let you catch

1193
00:52:59,880 --> 00:53:01,799
Speaker 11: the ball, and if you catch the ball, we're going

1194
00:53:01,880 --> 00:53:03,279
Speaker 11: to run a double team atch it, and if you

1195
00:53:03,280 --> 00:53:04,719
Speaker 11: get out of the double team, we're going to chase

1196
00:53:04,719 --> 00:53:08,000
Speaker 11: from behind. So from a stylistic standpoint, it's a very

1197
00:53:08,000 --> 00:53:11,880
Speaker 11: attractive style play for recruits. And obviously we've led the

1198
00:53:11,880 --> 00:53:14,920
Speaker 11: country and scoring at the Division two level for a

1199
00:53:14,960 --> 00:53:18,200
Speaker 11: long time, so it's an it's atractive style for fans

1200
00:53:18,200 --> 00:53:20,120
Speaker 11: as well. We score a lot of points and it's

1201
00:53:20,120 --> 00:53:22,120
Speaker 11: been successful for us at West Liberty and we're hoping

1202
00:53:22,120 --> 00:53:23,560
Speaker 11: to do the same thing here at au Indy.

1203
00:53:23,840 --> 00:53:25,759
Speaker 9: So Ben, when you say that, I think of how

1204
00:53:25,760 --> 00:53:28,879
Speaker 9: the Pacers got in the finals and and they didn't

1205
00:53:28,920 --> 00:53:30,520
Speaker 9: do it obviously for a full game, a little differentt

1206
00:53:30,520 --> 00:53:33,080
Speaker 9: the pro level, but in essence they want to get

1207
00:53:33,160 --> 00:53:35,440
Speaker 9: up in you. They want to, you know, disrupt you.

1208
00:53:35,640 --> 00:53:38,080
Speaker 9: And from a conditioning standpoint, what does that require from

1209
00:53:38,120 --> 00:53:41,800
Speaker 9: your team? And how much of that is the competitiveness

1210
00:53:42,160 --> 00:53:44,359
Speaker 9: and how you're training them, because I'd imagine they want

1211
00:53:44,360 --> 00:53:46,319
Speaker 9: to compete in that aspect too, whether you're running win

1212
00:53:46,400 --> 00:53:48,120
Speaker 9: sprints or you're touching lines.

1213
00:53:47,880 --> 00:53:48,960
Speaker 4: Whatever the case may be.

1214
00:53:48,960 --> 00:53:51,200
Speaker 9: Because the play at the rate you want them to play,

1215
00:53:51,320 --> 00:53:52,680
Speaker 9: you can't just go out there and do it when

1216
00:53:52,719 --> 00:53:53,719
Speaker 9: you have, you know, prepare for it.

1217
00:53:53,920 --> 00:53:55,879
Speaker 14: Yeah, I think I think you're you're on the something here.

1218
00:53:56,400 --> 00:53:59,960
Speaker 11: So our our conditioning is probably different than anyone else

1219
00:54:00,080 --> 00:54:02,560
Speaker 11: in the country, where we played at one hundred every

1220
00:54:02,640 --> 00:54:05,279
Speaker 11: day and we press and we don't condition out of that.

1221
00:54:05,360 --> 00:54:07,640
Speaker 11: So we actually get in shape by playing basketball. And

1222
00:54:07,680 --> 00:54:09,520
Speaker 11: I think you can kill two birds with one stone

1223
00:54:09,560 --> 00:54:11,720
Speaker 11: where you can get in shape, but you can also

1224
00:54:11,840 --> 00:54:14,360
Speaker 11: play and put yourself in live actions. And what we

1225
00:54:14,480 --> 00:54:16,840
Speaker 11: do is we keep track of winning and losing with

1226
00:54:16,960 --> 00:54:19,800
Speaker 11: everything they do. So at those open gyms, they're different

1227
00:54:19,840 --> 00:54:22,920
Speaker 11: teams every day, but we're keeping track as coaches who

1228
00:54:22,920 --> 00:54:24,520
Speaker 11: wins and loses, and we're posting.

1229
00:54:24,200 --> 00:54:24,960
Speaker 14: It in the locker room.

1230
00:54:25,040 --> 00:54:29,160
Speaker 11: So guys are are held accountable to well, if at

1231
00:54:29,160 --> 00:54:32,279
Speaker 11: the end of the summer I'm four and twelve, I'm

1232
00:54:32,320 --> 00:54:34,680
Speaker 11: a loser, or vice versa, I'm twelve and four. No

1233
00:54:34,719 --> 00:54:36,560
Speaker 11: matter what team I'm put on, I seem to win,

1234
00:54:36,600 --> 00:54:38,960
Speaker 11: and as coaches, we're playing the guys that win, not

1235
00:54:39,040 --> 00:54:39,800
Speaker 11: the guys that lose.

1236
00:54:40,400 --> 00:54:43,799
Speaker 10: Ben, when you you were I believe one of the

1237
00:54:43,800 --> 00:54:48,200
Speaker 10: finalists the previous cycle, and then when the job opens

1238
00:54:48,280 --> 00:54:51,520
Speaker 10: up a year later, you obviously get the job.

1239
00:54:51,640 --> 00:54:52,520
Speaker 14: I don't know.

1240
00:54:52,640 --> 00:54:54,399
Speaker 5: There might subscribe my.

1241
00:54:54,400 --> 00:54:56,680
Speaker 10: Ego, but I'd be pretty pissed off if I didn't

1242
00:54:56,680 --> 00:54:58,680
Speaker 10: get the job, and then it opens up the next year,

1243
00:54:58,719 --> 00:55:00,359
Speaker 10: and I'm thinking of myself, do I really I want

1244
00:55:00,360 --> 00:55:02,440
Speaker 10: to put all my eggs in that basket again? Was

1245
00:55:02,520 --> 00:55:05,480
Speaker 10: any of that in there for you? Of thinking like, no,

1246
00:55:05,560 --> 00:55:06,879
Speaker 10: you should have hired me last year?

1247
00:55:07,160 --> 00:55:09,759
Speaker 11: No, I think you're supposed to be where you're at.

1248
00:55:09,800 --> 00:55:11,600
Speaker 11: And it didn't work out for me a year one,

1249
00:55:11,640 --> 00:55:13,760
Speaker 11: and I don't care. I had a really good season

1250
00:55:13,800 --> 00:55:15,560
Speaker 11: last year. I was We were thirty and five as

1251
00:55:15,600 --> 00:55:16,960
Speaker 11: a team and went to the lead eight. So I

1252
00:55:16,960 --> 00:55:19,879
Speaker 11: had a great team and created great memories. And when

1253
00:55:19,920 --> 00:55:21,640
Speaker 11: the job opened up this year, I had the same

1254
00:55:21,840 --> 00:55:23,759
Speaker 11: You know, passionate. I wanted the job. I want to

1255
00:55:23,760 --> 00:55:26,360
Speaker 11: be here in Indianapolis. We've got our new arena coming

1256
00:55:26,440 --> 00:55:30,600
Speaker 11: next season. And during the hiring process, I was at

1257
00:55:30,640 --> 00:55:32,680
Speaker 11: the Hampton End downtown. That was when the Pacers were

1258
00:55:32,719 --> 00:55:34,719
Speaker 11: making their run, and it was it was wild down there.

1259
00:55:34,760 --> 00:55:36,239
Speaker 11: There was like watch parties and it was like the

1260
00:55:36,280 --> 00:55:38,080
Speaker 11: Super Bowl was going on down there. It was a

1261
00:55:38,080 --> 00:55:40,720
Speaker 11: lot of fun. And you know, I'm in a basketball city,

1262
00:55:40,719 --> 00:55:43,440
Speaker 11: in a basketball state, and this is exactly where I

1263
00:55:43,440 --> 00:55:44,960
Speaker 11: want to be, and we're going to flip this thing

1264
00:55:45,000 --> 00:55:45,600
Speaker 11: really quick here.

1265
00:55:45,840 --> 00:55:48,520
Speaker 10: I've always thought that, you know, I had a buddy

1266
00:55:48,560 --> 00:55:51,480
Speaker 10: that played at IPUI back in the day, and obviously,

1267
00:55:51,600 --> 00:55:54,600
Speaker 10: you know, coach Hunter's success is, you know, pretty well

1268
00:55:54,640 --> 00:55:55,480
Speaker 10: known in our city.

1269
00:55:55,760 --> 00:55:57,800
Speaker 5: It's always surprised me that IU Indy.

1270
00:55:57,680 --> 00:56:00,439
Speaker 10: Hasn't been more of a consistent presence in the mid

1271
00:56:00,480 --> 00:56:03,640
Speaker 10: major world because you watch the tournament. They're kids from

1272
00:56:03,640 --> 00:56:06,840
Speaker 10: the city of Indianapolis, surrounding counties playing for other teams.

1273
00:56:06,880 --> 00:56:09,200
Speaker 10: You know, every year that we see how much of it?

1274
00:56:09,239 --> 00:56:11,760
Speaker 10: Do you look at it as a recruiting fertile ground

1275
00:56:11,760 --> 00:56:14,280
Speaker 10: from a high school standpoint, But then b with the portal,

1276
00:56:14,680 --> 00:56:16,160
Speaker 10: you can now get kids that want to come back

1277
00:56:16,160 --> 00:56:17,439
Speaker 10: home potentially after a years.

1278
00:56:17,680 --> 00:56:20,760
Speaker 11: Yeah, And I think my staff and I made a commitment.

1279
00:56:21,280 --> 00:56:23,920
Speaker 11: We want to put a fence around Indianapolis and recruit

1280
00:56:23,960 --> 00:56:27,040
Speaker 11: Indianapolis kids first, and we want to build our roster

1281
00:56:27,120 --> 00:56:30,319
Speaker 11: through high school kids. And even if we don't get

1282
00:56:30,320 --> 00:56:32,520
Speaker 11: the high school kids initially, kind of like you said,

1283
00:56:32,560 --> 00:56:35,520
Speaker 11: they might go elsewhere. And the one thing I've kind

1284
00:56:35,520 --> 00:56:37,200
Speaker 11: of learned just in this short amount of time I've

1285
00:56:37,200 --> 00:56:38,919
Speaker 11: lived here is kids want to come back to Indy.

1286
00:56:39,040 --> 00:56:40,839
Speaker 11: The kids are from any want to come back to Indy.

1287
00:56:40,920 --> 00:56:43,040
Speaker 11: So you know, we're not going to burn any bridges

1288
00:56:43,040 --> 00:56:44,880
Speaker 11: and we're going to wish them luck if they go elsewhere.

1289
00:56:44,920 --> 00:56:47,680
Speaker 11: But you know, it's really vital for us to recruit

1290
00:56:47,680 --> 00:56:50,719
Speaker 11: this area, recruit this state, but also mix in sometal

1291
00:56:50,880 --> 00:56:52,840
Speaker 11: some portal players as well. And the way we approach

1292
00:56:52,920 --> 00:56:55,279
Speaker 11: the portal is there has to be some type of

1293
00:56:55,440 --> 00:56:58,680
Speaker 11: relationship prior to We just don't want to recruit somebody

1294
00:56:58,719 --> 00:57:01,239
Speaker 11: from California if we don't know who they are. These

1295
00:57:01,239 --> 00:57:03,160
Speaker 11: are guys that we've once recruited, or guys that we

1296
00:57:03,239 --> 00:57:05,719
Speaker 11: know or we have contacts through that would fit our

1297
00:57:05,880 --> 00:57:07,160
Speaker 11: team both on and off the court.

1298
00:57:07,400 --> 00:57:09,120
Speaker 2: I want to talk more about the system. I was

1299
00:57:09,120 --> 00:57:09,799
Speaker 2: fascinated by this.

1300
00:57:09,840 --> 00:57:11,560
Speaker 8: I read a couple of articles, probably a year year

1301
00:57:11,600 --> 00:57:13,759
Speaker 8: and a half ago about it, and I like the

1302
00:57:13,800 --> 00:57:15,920
Speaker 8: way you describe it. The defense we're on here for

1303
00:57:15,920 --> 00:57:19,080
Speaker 8: forty minutes. It's five guys out and open, no real positions.

1304
00:57:19,120 --> 00:57:22,640
Speaker 8: But after looking at a little bit of it, I

1305
00:57:22,640 --> 00:57:25,280
Speaker 8: went down a YouTube rabbit hole. When I've read these

1306
00:57:26,920 --> 00:57:29,080
Speaker 8: articles about one of the coaches. You had mentioned though, too,

1307
00:57:29,520 --> 00:57:31,400
Speaker 8: it's like your kids play with their hair on fire,

1308
00:57:31,480 --> 00:57:34,360
Speaker 8: but under control. Is that a good way to describe it.

1309
00:57:34,480 --> 00:57:34,720
Speaker 14: Yeah?

1310
00:57:35,040 --> 00:57:37,600
Speaker 11: I think essentially what we're trying to do is we're

1311
00:57:37,600 --> 00:57:39,880
Speaker 11: not only trying to physically wear a team out, we're

1312
00:57:39,920 --> 00:57:42,800
Speaker 11: mentally trying to wear a team out. And think about it.

1313
00:57:42,800 --> 00:57:44,520
Speaker 11: You guys have all played BA face letting you catch

1314
00:57:44,520 --> 00:57:46,160
Speaker 11: the ball. It's kind of like a fly and go.

1315
00:57:46,280 --> 00:57:48,640
Speaker 11: Like we're trying to play a game like we're down

1316
00:57:48,720 --> 00:57:51,280
Speaker 11: eight points with two minutes left. For forty minutes. That's

1317
00:57:51,280 --> 00:57:54,360
Speaker 11: what we're trying to do. And easier said than done.

1318
00:57:54,360 --> 00:57:56,360
Speaker 11: And everyone thinks they're playing hard, but they're not really

1319
00:57:56,400 --> 00:57:58,560
Speaker 11: playing hard. And every recruit comes in and they said

1320
00:57:58,560 --> 00:58:00,959
Speaker 11: they want to do it. It's time to do it.

1321
00:58:00,960 --> 00:58:02,920
Speaker 11: It's really hard to do this. It's dangerous too.

1322
00:58:03,080 --> 00:58:05,680
Speaker 8: Can you spot that kid when you're recruiting and say

1323
00:58:05,840 --> 00:58:06,800
Speaker 8: that's what I'm looking for.

1324
00:58:06,880 --> 00:58:10,000
Speaker 14: Yeah, how fast they walk on I have a pet peeve.

1325
00:58:10,040 --> 00:58:12,000
Speaker 11: It's guys that walk really slow and guys are on

1326
00:58:12,040 --> 00:58:14,320
Speaker 11: their cell phone all the time. The guys that have

1327
00:58:14,480 --> 00:58:16,400
Speaker 11: energy and walk really fast on their visit and don't

1328
00:58:16,400 --> 00:58:18,200
Speaker 11: have their phone out, those are the guys that I want.

1329
00:58:18,280 --> 00:58:19,960
Speaker 14: And it's like you kind of got to be a

1330
00:58:20,000 --> 00:58:20,360
Speaker 14: little bit of.

1331
00:58:20,400 --> 00:58:22,200
Speaker 11: Hyperactive to play here, and you kind of kind of

1332
00:58:22,200 --> 00:58:25,040
Speaker 11: be a little bit giddy and want to get into somebody.

1333
00:58:25,520 --> 00:58:27,040
Speaker 14: Those are the type of guys that we look for.

1334
00:58:27,880 --> 00:58:28,640
Speaker 2: Ten twelve.

1335
00:58:29,400 --> 00:58:30,680
Speaker 14: Yeah, we're gonna platune a little bit.

1336
00:58:30,680 --> 00:58:32,439
Speaker 11: We're gonna go five and five out just to wear

1337
00:58:32,440 --> 00:58:34,440
Speaker 11: the other team out and essentially try to wear the

1338
00:58:34,480 --> 00:58:36,680
Speaker 11: other team out. But in a perfect world, I would

1339
00:58:36,720 --> 00:58:38,600
Speaker 11: like to play ten. I think we've got ten quality

1340
00:58:38,600 --> 00:58:41,200
Speaker 11: players that play this year burring no injuries. But there's

1341
00:58:41,240 --> 00:58:43,080
Speaker 11: been years in the past. There's been you know, years

1342
00:58:43,120 --> 00:58:46,600
Speaker 11: in the past where we've played twelve guys, and that's

1343
00:58:46,600 --> 00:58:49,160
Speaker 11: the beauty of it is. I think on this year's roster.

1344
00:58:49,720 --> 00:58:51,680
Speaker 11: We don't have that one stud that you got to

1345
00:58:51,680 --> 00:58:53,160
Speaker 11: play thirty. We have a bunch of guys that are

1346
00:58:53,160 --> 00:58:55,560
Speaker 11: all about the same. So let's just play them all.

1347
00:58:55,640 --> 00:58:57,560
Speaker 11: Let's play them all about twenty to twenty five minutes,

1348
00:58:57,560 --> 00:58:58,760
Speaker 11: and let's wear these other teams out.

1349
00:58:58,800 --> 00:58:59,960
Speaker 14: Let's win a bunch of basketball games.

1350
00:59:00,320 --> 00:59:02,640
Speaker 9: So when you talk about the transfer portal, I see

1351
00:59:02,640 --> 00:59:04,520
Speaker 9: again you have to do a lot of retooling. But

1352
00:59:04,600 --> 00:59:07,680
Speaker 9: Corey Boston and Kyler di Augustine I hope saying his

1353
00:59:07,760 --> 00:59:10,240
Speaker 9: last name right, those two stood out to me. What

1354
00:59:10,560 --> 00:59:12,560
Speaker 9: attracted you about those guys and what they could bring

1355
00:59:12,600 --> 00:59:14,040
Speaker 9: here to IU Indy.

1356
00:59:14,200 --> 00:59:16,280
Speaker 11: Yeah, Well, Kyler was with me at West Liberty last year.

1357
00:59:16,560 --> 00:59:19,120
Speaker 11: He was he was, you know, an All conference player

1358
00:59:19,120 --> 00:59:21,520
Speaker 11: for me at West Liberty. And he's a kid from

1359
00:59:21,560 --> 00:59:24,400
Speaker 11: Southeastern Ohio. Tough, put a roof on, that's what he

1360
00:59:24,440 --> 00:59:27,280
Speaker 11: does for a literally naturally big, never lifted waste before,

1361
00:59:27,440 --> 00:59:28,440
Speaker 11: and I.

1362
00:59:28,440 --> 00:59:29,320
Speaker 4: Never had that problem.

1363
00:59:32,400 --> 00:59:35,400
Speaker 11: Was covering that right, And and and Corey you mentioned Corey.

1364
00:59:35,400 --> 00:59:37,760
Speaker 11: Corey's a guy that we played against at a Division two.

1365
00:59:37,840 --> 00:59:40,000
Speaker 11: So you know that that's an area that we're going

1366
00:59:40,080 --> 00:59:42,840
Speaker 11: to look at. Is we're going to recruit Division two guys.

1367
00:59:42,840 --> 00:59:44,720
Speaker 11: We're going to recruit Division three, Division one in and

1368
00:59:44,760 --> 00:59:46,640
Speaker 11: we're going to recruit everybody. And if we think they're

1369
00:59:46,640 --> 00:59:48,680
Speaker 11: a good fit, you know, both on and off the court,

1370
00:59:48,720 --> 00:59:50,280
Speaker 11: then we're gonna we're gonna do everything we can to

1371
00:59:50,320 --> 00:59:50,840
Speaker 11: get those guys.

1372
00:59:50,880 --> 00:59:52,919
Speaker 10: All right, Ben Halla with us IU Indye head coach.

1373
00:59:53,080 --> 00:59:56,000
Speaker 10: Last question, you are calling Fisher's home.

1374
00:59:56,160 --> 00:59:57,200
Speaker 2: You obviously are.

1375
00:59:57,480 --> 01:00:00,160
Speaker 10: An extremely young parent with a two year o old

1376
01:00:00,160 --> 01:00:03,640
Speaker 10: than a five week old. Any spot that you and

1377
01:00:03,680 --> 01:00:05,920
Speaker 10: the family enjoy going to, whether it's in the Fishers

1378
01:00:05,960 --> 01:00:08,000
Speaker 10: area or downtown near.

1379
01:00:07,960 --> 01:00:12,200
Speaker 14: Campus handles ice cream. I think we all know where

1380
01:00:12,200 --> 01:00:12,680
Speaker 14: that one is.

1381
01:00:14,880 --> 01:00:17,120
Speaker 11: There's always a line, no matter what time you go,

1382
01:00:17,160 --> 01:00:20,600
Speaker 11: there's always a line that we'll wait in that line

1383
01:00:20,480 --> 01:00:21,240
Speaker 11: for that ice cream.

1384
01:00:21,280 --> 01:00:23,360
Speaker 14: That's no problem. So that that's our spot at night.

1385
01:00:23,440 --> 01:00:26,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's no bad ice cream, now there's not. There's

1386
01:00:26,400 --> 01:00:28,560
Speaker 2: just not. Thanks for stopping bye. We look forward to

1387
01:00:28,560 --> 01:00:28,960
Speaker 2: talking to you.

1388
01:00:29,040 --> 01:00:30,000
Speaker 14: Yeah, thanks for having on here.