1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:09,080 Speaker 1: Wow, Rocky Patel, he's got a lot of scars. I mean, 2 00:00:09,680 --> 00:00:12,360 Speaker 1: he's got an insane number of cigars. It is a 3 00:00:12,480 --> 00:00:15,480 Speaker 1: ridiculous number of cigars. We haven't done too many of 4 00:00:15,520 --> 00:00:18,040 Speaker 1: them on the show. It's nothing against Rocky. We've interviewed 5 00:00:18,320 --> 00:00:21,159 Speaker 1: Rocky before. He's a nice guy, and this is the 6 00:00:21,160 --> 00:00:23,880 Speaker 1: thirtieth anniversary. It's he drink smoke. I'm Tony Katz and 7 00:00:23,920 --> 00:00:27,640 Speaker 1: that is America's favorite amateur drinker, Fingers maloy. I got 8 00:00:27,640 --> 00:00:30,360 Speaker 1: to admit it's pretty as a picture. The band with 9 00:00:30,560 --> 00:00:33,360 Speaker 1: a traditional RP on it, Rocky Motel in the cursive 10 00:00:33,440 --> 00:00:36,600 Speaker 1: in the back, in the black, and this rapper, which 11 00:00:36,680 --> 00:00:41,000 Speaker 1: is a Mexican San Andreas, is as close to a scurrow, 12 00:00:41,960 --> 00:00:44,720 Speaker 1: you know. This is a deep deep maduro rapper here. 13 00:00:44,720 --> 00:00:47,440 Speaker 1: Although it's a Mexican San Andreas. I'm just talking about 14 00:00:47,800 --> 00:00:50,800 Speaker 1: the look right there, how it looks. It is just 15 00:00:51,040 --> 00:00:55,680 Speaker 1: dark and delicious looking and a beautiful, harder edged box 16 00:00:55,800 --> 00:00:59,560 Speaker 1: press for this toro right here, because that's what we 17 00:00:59,640 --> 00:01:04,320 Speaker 1: are smoking, the Rocky Battel thirtieth Anniversary Toro, which comes 18 00:01:04,319 --> 00:01:06,800 Speaker 1: in six and a half by fifty two, which means 19 00:01:06,800 --> 00:01:10,119 Speaker 1: it's six and one half inches long. Tea always makes 20 00:01:10,160 --> 00:01:11,960 Speaker 1: fingers while I laugh, And the ring gauge is the 21 00:01:12,000 --> 00:01:14,039 Speaker 1: fifty two that's a diameter of the cigar, or how 22 00:01:14,120 --> 00:01:17,800 Speaker 1: thick it is around again with the laughter, So a 23 00:01:17,840 --> 00:01:21,160 Speaker 1: sixty four ring gauge would be a full one inch around. 24 00:01:21,240 --> 00:01:23,560 Speaker 1: I'm just lighting mine fingers. Is always like, why don't 25 00:01:23,600 --> 00:01:26,240 Speaker 1: you like before we start the show, and I'm always 26 00:01:26,280 --> 00:01:28,000 Speaker 1: reminding him, you're not the bossom me. 27 00:01:29,319 --> 00:01:31,399 Speaker 2: You know what I have to say something. 28 00:01:31,440 --> 00:01:33,440 Speaker 1: I'm a strong independent woman. I don't need no man. 29 00:01:33,959 --> 00:01:34,520 Speaker 1: Are you okay? 30 00:01:34,760 --> 00:01:36,399 Speaker 2: You seem a little sassy today. 31 00:01:36,560 --> 00:01:38,720 Speaker 1: I just did I mention the strong independent woman part. 32 00:01:40,120 --> 00:01:42,600 Speaker 1: I'm solid. I am good. It has been a week, 33 00:01:43,080 --> 00:01:45,880 Speaker 1: it has been a thing, but this looks quite all right. 34 00:01:46,160 --> 00:01:49,760 Speaker 1: Admittedly we haven't done too many Rocky Ptels in the 35 00:01:49,800 --> 00:01:53,320 Speaker 1: course of the program. I am still so the Rocky 36 00:01:53,320 --> 00:01:57,560 Speaker 1: Hotel Cameroon. I'm very partial too, and the Rocky Hotel 37 00:01:57,640 --> 00:02:00,400 Speaker 1: going old School, the Rocky Hotel nineteen ninety, which was 38 00:02:00,440 --> 00:02:04,680 Speaker 1: a ninety two rating on Cigar Aficionado. I would still 39 00:02:04,720 --> 00:02:06,960 Speaker 1: smoke that any day of the week. Like that cigar 40 00:02:07,000 --> 00:02:09,840 Speaker 1: has always worked for me. This one, I don't know 41 00:02:09,880 --> 00:02:13,920 Speaker 1: because it's newer, and what I know about it is 42 00:02:13,960 --> 00:02:19,520 Speaker 1: that you've got nicaraguin binder hundurna Nicaraguan filler. But the binder. 43 00:02:19,800 --> 00:02:23,720 Speaker 1: You're talking about seven year tobacco in this, and I 44 00:02:23,800 --> 00:02:26,880 Speaker 1: want to see if I really feel get to taste 45 00:02:26,960 --> 00:02:29,799 Speaker 1: flavor of what that age is. You're on this fingers, 46 00:02:29,840 --> 00:02:31,160 Speaker 1: you're into the first third. What do you got? 47 00:02:31,240 --> 00:02:33,760 Speaker 2: Well, first of all, I have to say that the 48 00:02:34,080 --> 00:02:38,240 Speaker 2: stick itself is beefy for yeah, we've got some. Yeah. 49 00:02:38,360 --> 00:02:40,600 Speaker 2: I was really surprised when you said that the ring 50 00:02:40,639 --> 00:02:42,880 Speaker 2: gage is fifty two. I thought it was actually smaller. 51 00:02:43,840 --> 00:02:46,240 Speaker 2: But maybe it's just my hand I've been working out. 52 00:02:46,360 --> 00:02:49,000 Speaker 1: Is that right? Yeah, so maybe it could be thatand 53 00:02:49,120 --> 00:02:50,800 Speaker 1: model future, Oh. 54 00:02:50,480 --> 00:02:55,320 Speaker 2: That's the dream. Having said that, I'm not getting much 55 00:02:55,480 --> 00:02:57,959 Speaker 2: right away off of the stick, I'm not getting a 56 00:02:57,960 --> 00:03:02,760 Speaker 2: lot of spice, not getting any like you know, coffee 57 00:03:03,040 --> 00:03:07,440 Speaker 2: or chocolate notes at this point. There's a kind of 58 00:03:07,480 --> 00:03:10,760 Speaker 2: like richness to it. But other other than that, not 59 00:03:10,840 --> 00:03:13,560 Speaker 2: a whole heck of a lot. But we, like you said, 60 00:03:13,560 --> 00:03:15,920 Speaker 2: we just lit this. I lit this like two minutes ago, 61 00:03:16,080 --> 00:03:16,720 Speaker 2: so that is. 62 00:03:16,720 --> 00:03:19,680 Speaker 1: A very rich tobacco right off the light. Because I 63 00:03:19,720 --> 00:03:24,239 Speaker 1: just lit mine up very very rich. You're right, there 64 00:03:24,280 --> 00:03:26,560 Speaker 1: isn't much of a spice, but there is a little 65 00:03:26,919 --> 00:03:30,480 Speaker 1: wood tingle going on on the tongue there. I would 66 00:03:30,639 --> 00:03:36,120 Speaker 1: argue that there's the tobacco part could be seen as 67 00:03:36,120 --> 00:03:38,640 Speaker 1: almost a cocoa We're not talking about a milk chocolate, 68 00:03:38,720 --> 00:03:42,040 Speaker 1: dark chocolate bitterness or anything like that. But there's like this, 69 00:03:42,040 --> 00:03:46,839 Speaker 1: this this little bit of of earthen cocoa sweet with 70 00:03:47,120 --> 00:03:51,680 Speaker 1: this little bit of of wood feel, cedar feel there 71 00:03:52,360 --> 00:03:57,880 Speaker 1: throughout the tongue. But it's tobacco. It's a rich tobacco forward. 72 00:03:58,160 --> 00:04:03,040 Speaker 1: That was a very very nice, right off the light flavor. 73 00:04:03,120 --> 00:04:05,880 Speaker 1: Give me that all day and I could do that absolutely. 74 00:04:05,920 --> 00:04:08,880 Speaker 2: I will say this, these notes that you're referring to, 75 00:04:10,000 --> 00:04:13,800 Speaker 2: I have been pounding coffee today, and if these are 76 00:04:13,920 --> 00:04:15,600 Speaker 2: would you say that it's not a euphemism? 77 00:04:15,640 --> 00:04:15,880 Speaker 1: Is it? 78 00:04:16,000 --> 00:04:20,560 Speaker 2: No, it's it's not. I'm actually drinking let's say, four 79 00:04:20,640 --> 00:04:23,159 Speaker 2: or five cups of coffee today. I feel like one 80 00:04:23,200 --> 00:04:27,280 Speaker 2: hundred dollars. Thank you. I appreciate that these notes that 81 00:04:27,320 --> 00:04:29,760 Speaker 2: you're talking about. Are they subtle enough at this point? 82 00:04:29,800 --> 00:04:32,640 Speaker 2: Do you think that maybe I'm not getting any of 83 00:04:32,640 --> 00:04:35,360 Speaker 2: that because my palette has been overpowered by the coffee. 84 00:04:35,440 --> 00:04:38,000 Speaker 1: I think it's possible that you don't even know where 85 00:04:38,040 --> 00:04:40,159 Speaker 1: your palette is yet. You've had a whole day of 86 00:04:40,240 --> 00:04:42,360 Speaker 1: doing things locally knows what you've eaten today? Doe? 87 00:04:42,960 --> 00:04:44,000 Speaker 2: You do not want to know? 88 00:04:44,720 --> 00:04:47,680 Speaker 1: Right? Oh, it's bad today, really bad. Not just my 89 00:04:47,720 --> 00:04:52,640 Speaker 1: wife's peakan bars. No, also not a euphemism, there were 90 00:04:52,680 --> 00:04:55,719 Speaker 1: actual pecan bars. All right, we'll play the game later. Yeah, 91 00:04:55,800 --> 00:04:59,160 Speaker 1: of course everything can be having an effect. Take your 92 00:04:59,200 --> 00:05:01,680 Speaker 1: palette a while to settle down and settle in. 93 00:05:01,880 --> 00:05:04,760 Speaker 2: No, I get what you're saying. I'm just saying that 94 00:05:05,320 --> 00:05:08,279 Speaker 2: the notes that you're experiencing so far are they're subtle. 95 00:05:08,279 --> 00:05:10,040 Speaker 2: They're not something that are, you know. 96 00:05:10,360 --> 00:05:13,080 Speaker 1: Hitting you over all? Right, all right, I'm misunderstanding. 97 00:05:13,080 --> 00:05:14,919 Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying is if they're really really subtle, 98 00:05:15,200 --> 00:05:18,320 Speaker 2: that maybe the coffee at this point is overpowering anything 99 00:05:18,320 --> 00:05:21,080 Speaker 2: that I would beginning from the cigar right off the lene. 100 00:05:21,080 --> 00:05:24,280 Speaker 1: Oh I'm aware of them, kitten, I'm aware that they're 101 00:05:24,279 --> 00:05:28,120 Speaker 1: there for sure. Now are they big power things? No? 102 00:05:28,800 --> 00:05:33,120 Speaker 1: Is it subtle? No? I know that this is happening. 103 00:05:33,200 --> 00:05:36,000 Speaker 1: I know that that this is going on in my life. 104 00:05:36,040 --> 00:05:39,080 Speaker 1: From Rocky bottel the thirtieth anniversary. You want to get 105 00:05:39,080 --> 00:05:41,520 Speaker 1: your notebooks out. You always want to have a notebook, right, 106 00:05:41,600 --> 00:05:43,680 Speaker 1: because you're gonna put your notes in there. First of all, 107 00:05:43,720 --> 00:05:46,640 Speaker 1: what'd you eat today? What did you drink today? Right? 108 00:05:46,680 --> 00:05:51,320 Speaker 1: Those things matter? The weather, right, the overcast here in Indianapolis, 109 00:05:51,360 --> 00:05:56,960 Speaker 1: Indiana where we record. Then break the cigar into thirds, first, third, second, third, 110 00:05:57,040 --> 00:06:00,440 Speaker 1: final third of the cigar, and then what do you like? 111 00:06:00,480 --> 00:06:02,680 Speaker 1: What are the flavors that you get out of that 112 00:06:02,720 --> 00:06:05,320 Speaker 1: you wanna you want to write those down. That's exactly 113 00:06:05,320 --> 00:06:06,560 Speaker 1: what you want to do. You want to write down 114 00:06:07,120 --> 00:06:09,600 Speaker 1: those flavors, as esoteric or as simple as they are. 115 00:06:09,839 --> 00:06:11,520 Speaker 1: And then the next time you try the cigar, right, 116 00:06:11,600 --> 00:06:13,240 Speaker 1: a month from now, six months now, whatever it is, 117 00:06:13,480 --> 00:06:15,240 Speaker 1: you do the same thing. You go back and check 118 00:06:15,240 --> 00:06:16,680 Speaker 1: your notes. You get an idea of your through line, 119 00:06:16,720 --> 00:06:19,000 Speaker 1: what your flavors are, what what you really thought of 120 00:06:19,040 --> 00:06:21,640 Speaker 1: the cigar? And until you're into the second third, you 121 00:06:21,640 --> 00:06:23,800 Speaker 1: don't know where you're at. You know, it just picked 122 00:06:23,839 --> 00:06:28,440 Speaker 1: up for me, spice back of the throat, holy cow, 123 00:06:28,720 --> 00:06:30,599 Speaker 1: just boom right there as I was talking to you. 124 00:06:30,720 --> 00:06:33,719 Speaker 2: Wow, I'm starting to get kind of that that wood 125 00:06:33,800 --> 00:06:36,359 Speaker 2: note that you're talking about as I've put down my 126 00:06:36,480 --> 00:06:37,880 Speaker 2: coffee and. 127 00:06:38,680 --> 00:06:41,599 Speaker 1: You want to do a palid cleanser. Do you want 128 00:06:41,600 --> 00:06:44,280 Speaker 1: a sorbet or a diet coke or. 129 00:06:44,279 --> 00:06:45,560 Speaker 2: A stort bite? Do you do you have a kit 130 00:06:45,680 --> 00:06:46,000 Speaker 2: cat bar? 131 00:06:46,400 --> 00:06:48,200 Speaker 1: I do a kick cat bar? Really? 132 00:06:48,279 --> 00:06:52,640 Speaker 2: Because those those wafers you had last week, two weeks ago. Uh, 133 00:06:52,960 --> 00:06:53,960 Speaker 2: sugar free wafers. 134 00:06:54,080 --> 00:06:58,360 Speaker 1: Yeah? No, you had some right here. Yeah, I'm sure. 135 00:06:58,440 --> 00:07:00,640 Speaker 1: I'm sure you do some right now because I was 136 00:07:00,680 --> 00:07:01,880 Speaker 1: sugar free wafer right now. 137 00:07:01,920 --> 00:07:04,719 Speaker 2: I just expect, you know, when I come to the 138 00:07:04,720 --> 00:07:09,720 Speaker 2: Etrink Smoke Studios and contribute nothing, that the that the 139 00:07:09,720 --> 00:07:13,280 Speaker 2: the wafer game would be a little bit more on 140 00:07:13,320 --> 00:07:13,800 Speaker 2: point than what. 141 00:07:13,800 --> 00:07:16,800 Speaker 1: I Wait till you see our Oreo game. Wait till 142 00:07:16,840 --> 00:07:18,880 Speaker 1: you see I told you guys a couple of weeks ago, 143 00:07:18,960 --> 00:07:22,560 Speaker 1: we came across the story of Thanksgiving flavored Oreos, and 144 00:07:22,600 --> 00:07:26,200 Speaker 1: I'm holding in my hand a giant Oreo ten. 145 00:07:26,400 --> 00:07:27,440 Speaker 2: That's one Oreo. 146 00:07:27,760 --> 00:07:31,800 Speaker 1: No, that's a tin. Inside are the oreos? And I 147 00:07:31,880 --> 00:07:34,480 Speaker 1: am going to I haven't tried them yet, We're gonna 148 00:07:34,520 --> 00:07:37,000 Speaker 1: try them here on the show, but I am going 149 00:07:37,040 --> 00:07:43,400 Speaker 1: to take Oreo to task o. Ho Oreo, you are 150 00:07:43,520 --> 00:07:47,520 Speaker 1: so much better than this, so much better than this. 151 00:07:47,600 --> 00:07:51,280 Speaker 1: You tried them already. No, I'll explain, Okay, I'll explain. 152 00:07:52,160 --> 00:07:54,760 Speaker 1: Coming up right there, y'a. I'll just put that right there. 153 00:07:54,840 --> 00:07:56,960 Speaker 1: Let's I'm putting it in the video shot just to 154 00:07:56,960 --> 00:07:59,680 Speaker 1: see if we get sued. I just want to know. 155 00:08:00,160 --> 00:08:01,880 Speaker 1: I'm gonna put right next to him and put a 156 00:08:01,920 --> 00:08:06,320 Speaker 1: cigar right now on top of the orio ten and 157 00:08:06,600 --> 00:08:09,720 Speaker 1: uh yeah, so okay, maybe not. That's gonna fall just 158 00:08:09,720 --> 00:08:13,600 Speaker 1: like a pen and teller act the Rocky Mattel thirtieth Anniversary? 159 00:08:14,520 --> 00:08:18,360 Speaker 1: Is this in your humidor fingers molloy for eighteen. 160 00:08:18,040 --> 00:08:21,120 Speaker 2: Dollars a stick, I're gonna have to get well into 161 00:08:21,120 --> 00:08:22,440 Speaker 2: the second third before I make that. 162 00:08:22,760 --> 00:08:24,040 Speaker 1: I think you're gonna have to get into the final 163 00:08:24,080 --> 00:08:26,200 Speaker 1: third to figure that one out. I really do. I 164 00:08:26,200 --> 00:08:27,960 Speaker 1: think this is gonna be the kind of cigar that 165 00:08:28,000 --> 00:08:30,000 Speaker 1: you got to give it the time that it needs. 166 00:08:30,000 --> 00:08:32,000 Speaker 1: You've got to bring it all the way through to 167 00:08:32,040 --> 00:08:34,800 Speaker 1: see if you're there for eighteen dollars. From the look 168 00:08:34,920 --> 00:08:36,680 Speaker 1: so far, I mean it's pretty and I do like 169 00:08:36,679 --> 00:08:38,959 Speaker 1: a box press. But we will see what we will 170 00:08:38,960 --> 00:08:49,880 Speaker 1: see Thanksgiving around the corner. No, no, fingers figuratively all 171 00:08:50,320 --> 00:08:54,520 Speaker 1: around the corner. It's not like it's just around the corner. 172 00:08:54,760 --> 00:08:56,760 Speaker 1: And a couple of weeks ago we came across the 173 00:08:56,800 --> 00:09:04,000 Speaker 1: story about Thanksgiving flavored oreos, right yes, Tea drink smoke 174 00:09:04,040 --> 00:09:06,480 Speaker 1: im Tony Katz. That's fingers below. I find everything at 175 00:09:06,480 --> 00:09:09,319 Speaker 1: Eat Drinks, Smoke show dot com. And of course get 176 00:09:09,400 --> 00:09:11,760 Speaker 1: Let's Go Bourbon and Let's Go Barbecue, our two books 177 00:09:11,800 --> 00:09:14,960 Speaker 1: perfect for Christmas, available at Amazon dot com. Let's Go Bbq, 178 00:09:15,480 --> 00:09:19,040 Speaker 1: Let's Go Bourbon. Look for those books Amazon dot com. 179 00:09:19,679 --> 00:09:21,040 Speaker 1: I ordered this immediately. 180 00:09:21,360 --> 00:09:23,640 Speaker 2: Now if I remember correctly, was there a green bean 181 00:09:23,760 --> 00:09:27,719 Speaker 2: casserole cookie? No oh, because I'm gonna save that one 182 00:09:27,720 --> 00:09:27,920 Speaker 2: for you. 183 00:09:28,000 --> 00:09:32,520 Speaker 1: There was a series of flavors that they they had 184 00:09:32,559 --> 00:09:35,160 Speaker 1: in there, right, a series of flavors that are available 185 00:09:35,640 --> 00:09:41,559 Speaker 1: in the collector tin, which I have in my little 186 00:09:41,559 --> 00:09:42,320 Speaker 1: hands right here. 187 00:09:43,240 --> 00:09:48,240 Speaker 2: It's a twelve count. That means there are twelve in there. 188 00:09:48,280 --> 00:09:52,679 Speaker 1: Twelve in here in the specialty ten there's turkey and gravy, 189 00:09:53,280 --> 00:09:59,040 Speaker 1: sweet potato cream, corn, apple, caramel pie, pumpkin pie, and 190 00:09:59,120 --> 00:10:01,680 Speaker 1: crackberry sauce. You're regretting this already, aren't you. 191 00:10:02,559 --> 00:10:06,040 Speaker 2: I'm regretting the fact that you had to go ahead 192 00:10:06,080 --> 00:10:08,120 Speaker 2: and spend how much on it for twelve cookies. 193 00:10:08,320 --> 00:10:13,760 Speaker 1: So I bought this this little holiday box thing right here, 194 00:10:13,960 --> 00:10:16,319 Speaker 1: and I spent forty four dollars and ninety nine cents. 195 00:10:16,360 --> 00:10:19,360 Speaker 2: Good lord, now that's all. I'll me do the math 196 00:10:19,400 --> 00:10:24,760 Speaker 2: carry the two. That's a lot of money per cookie. 197 00:10:26,240 --> 00:10:30,000 Speaker 1: It's about four dollars an Oreo. That's what that is. 198 00:10:32,160 --> 00:10:35,040 Speaker 1: Let me start by saying the tin itself is lovely, 199 00:10:35,760 --> 00:10:41,679 Speaker 1: except it's thin. It doesn't feel quality Oreo. It doesn't. 200 00:10:42,080 --> 00:10:43,840 Speaker 1: And then let me say it came in a box, 201 00:10:44,400 --> 00:10:49,800 Speaker 1: a nondescript cardboard box with nothing that says, hey, thanks 202 00:10:49,840 --> 00:10:52,960 Speaker 1: for ordering from Oreo. Hey, here's a discount when you'll 203 00:10:52,960 --> 00:10:54,720 Speaker 1: get when you go to the store. Here's a dollar 204 00:10:54,720 --> 00:10:57,400 Speaker 1: off an Oreo package. Hey, don't forget to buy our merch. 205 00:10:58,200 --> 00:11:02,440 Speaker 1: It's no thought, no more caring was put into the 206 00:11:02,480 --> 00:11:04,960 Speaker 1: packaging to make me a guy who wants to buy 207 00:11:05,000 --> 00:11:05,880 Speaker 1: more from Oreos. 208 00:11:06,000 --> 00:11:08,600 Speaker 2: But it was clearly wrapped in an Oreo T shirt. 209 00:11:08,679 --> 00:11:11,920 Speaker 1: It was not wrapped in an Oreo anything it was. 210 00:11:12,600 --> 00:11:16,880 Speaker 1: It is the most miss of marketing. It's like no 211 00:11:16,920 --> 00:11:19,880 Speaker 1: one ever knew the story of Zappos the most miss 212 00:11:20,200 --> 00:11:27,000 Speaker 1: marketing opportunity ever. It was. It was this inside. I 213 00:11:27,000 --> 00:11:30,360 Speaker 1: think it was some plastic. Wow this tin. Now you 214 00:11:30,400 --> 00:11:36,240 Speaker 1: open up this tin and and you have some of this, 215 00:11:36,480 --> 00:11:41,400 Speaker 1: uh the crinkle cut paper right here. Just just that's 216 00:11:41,440 --> 00:11:44,200 Speaker 1: what You've got, some crinkle cut paper. Maybe they put 217 00:11:44,200 --> 00:11:47,400 Speaker 1: that in there just to keep the oreos safe. And 218 00:11:47,600 --> 00:11:53,400 Speaker 1: inside are the oreos. They are individually wrapped. Some say 219 00:11:53,400 --> 00:11:56,800 Speaker 1: Happy Thanksgiving, some say give thanks, some say a whole 220 00:11:57,440 --> 00:12:02,560 Speaker 1: host of things. And there got these little uh there, 221 00:12:02,559 --> 00:12:04,360 Speaker 1: you take that one right there. What I don't know. 222 00:12:04,400 --> 00:12:06,920 Speaker 1: I don't not know if that's the flavor of it. 223 00:12:06,920 --> 00:12:09,400 Speaker 1: It doesn't also tell me what flavors they are. You 224 00:12:09,440 --> 00:12:13,640 Speaker 1: don't know what the flavors are. There's nothing that tells 225 00:12:13,679 --> 00:12:17,360 Speaker 1: you what it is you just got. So now you're 226 00:12:17,440 --> 00:12:20,760 Speaker 1: guessing Fingers malloy. Everything here is guesswork. 227 00:12:21,520 --> 00:12:23,840 Speaker 2: This is ridiculous, by the way. It looks like a 228 00:12:23,880 --> 00:12:26,040 Speaker 2: really nice hand soap that you can get at Target. 229 00:12:26,200 --> 00:12:30,800 Speaker 1: Absolutely absolutely, you know they used to put these in 230 00:12:30,800 --> 00:12:34,680 Speaker 1: the urinals at camp. I don't know what I'm supposed 231 00:12:34,679 --> 00:12:36,559 Speaker 1: to do with this, but I got I got it 232 00:12:36,600 --> 00:12:38,520 Speaker 1: from the same pile you did. Is there a little 233 00:12:39,280 --> 00:12:44,840 Speaker 1: piece on the bottom. In here, there's nothing's numbered, nothing's lettered. 234 00:12:46,040 --> 00:12:51,400 Speaker 1: It's it's ridiculous. Oreo. I swear to you. We've done 235 00:12:51,440 --> 00:12:53,960 Speaker 1: this show for over six years. I have never set 236 00:12:54,000 --> 00:12:57,760 Speaker 1: anybody on fire. Ever. We've joked about people. We've had 237 00:12:58,000 --> 00:13:01,320 Speaker 1: disagreements usually you know, we're we're lovers and just we 238 00:13:01,360 --> 00:13:05,000 Speaker 1: want to be supportive. The worst marketing in the world, 239 00:13:06,480 --> 00:13:09,640 Speaker 1: the worst marketing I have ever seen. 240 00:13:09,840 --> 00:13:13,760 Speaker 2: You know that I get a third of my food 241 00:13:14,480 --> 00:13:16,000 Speaker 2: from a vending machine. 242 00:13:15,760 --> 00:13:18,360 Speaker 1: Right that could be a lot of oreos. 243 00:13:18,679 --> 00:13:23,600 Speaker 2: Oreo, you broke my heart. You broke my heart. 244 00:13:23,880 --> 00:13:26,640 Speaker 1: That's what happened. That is what happened. But are you 245 00:13:26,679 --> 00:13:28,800 Speaker 1: are We're gonna We're gonna do this. Let's see how 246 00:13:28,800 --> 00:13:34,520 Speaker 1: easy this is to open? Nope, nope, nope. 247 00:13:36,720 --> 00:13:42,240 Speaker 2: What is god? Okay, clearly, clearly what's happening here? 248 00:13:43,440 --> 00:13:45,840 Speaker 1: By the way, I do carry a hinder or knife? 249 00:13:47,280 --> 00:13:48,200 Speaker 1: Do you need this? 250 00:13:48,280 --> 00:13:50,760 Speaker 2: Oh no, I used my raw brutal. 251 00:13:50,480 --> 00:13:56,600 Speaker 1: Wait hold on, it is oh stop, Oh gosh, we're dumb? 252 00:13:56,920 --> 00:13:57,920 Speaker 1: Have you what? No? 253 00:13:59,160 --> 00:14:00,320 Speaker 2: Is Is there a pumpkin pie? 254 00:14:00,520 --> 00:14:03,080 Speaker 1: No? No, no, I'm telling you this is on a 255 00:14:03,080 --> 00:14:05,400 Speaker 1: bunch of them. You don't know what's what? Right? Okay, 256 00:14:05,520 --> 00:14:08,760 Speaker 1: So here's why I'm done. There is a description on 257 00:14:08,760 --> 00:14:10,320 Speaker 1: the back. There's a little bit of information on the 258 00:14:10,320 --> 00:14:13,079 Speaker 1: back of the plastic. It says what it contains. It 259 00:14:13,120 --> 00:14:17,000 Speaker 1: says it's distributed by and then it says contains a 260 00:14:17,120 --> 00:14:27,800 Speaker 1: bioengineered food ingredient. Yeah, so this is getting worse. Oreo worse. Buy. 261 00:14:28,200 --> 00:14:29,920 Speaker 1: Oh you don't care about the bioengineered, do you? 262 00:14:30,000 --> 00:14:33,880 Speaker 2: Okay, you you really care about that. I mean, listen, 263 00:14:34,240 --> 00:14:38,400 Speaker 2: I'm looking at it this way. Mine says it contains 264 00:14:38,520 --> 00:14:43,400 Speaker 2: wheat soy and milk soy. Great, I'm already a beacup. 265 00:14:45,240 --> 00:14:48,080 Speaker 1: It smells like chocolate, smells like an oreo. Yes, you 266 00:14:48,120 --> 00:14:50,240 Speaker 1: want to go first? You want me to go first, 267 00:14:50,360 --> 00:14:53,840 Speaker 1: I'll go first. You go. Is this is this edible? Yes, 268 00:14:53,880 --> 00:14:56,560 Speaker 1: of course it's edible. No, the little oh the thing 269 00:14:56,600 --> 00:14:59,320 Speaker 1: is yeah, the thing this is happy Thanksgiving or others 270 00:14:59,360 --> 00:15:01,800 Speaker 1: say give thanks Yes, accetible. So these are the oreos 271 00:15:01,800 --> 00:15:05,360 Speaker 1: we purchased that are supposed to be Thanksgiving flavored of 272 00:15:05,440 --> 00:15:09,760 Speaker 1: all different kinds of Thanksgiving flavors. Uh, the turkey and 273 00:15:09,840 --> 00:15:12,000 Speaker 1: gravy or the sweet potato or the cream corn, the 274 00:15:12,040 --> 00:15:16,040 Speaker 1: apple caramel, pie, the pumpkin pie and the cranberry sauce. 275 00:15:17,400 --> 00:15:20,840 Speaker 1: What's so? Whoa, what's the matter. Oh it's good. What 276 00:15:20,880 --> 00:15:21,560 Speaker 1: does it taste like? 277 00:15:21,640 --> 00:15:26,760 Speaker 2: I couldn't tell you. I couldn't tell you. Honestly. It's 278 00:15:26,840 --> 00:15:29,960 Speaker 2: white chocolate. There's orange sprinkles on it. Just what it 279 00:15:29,960 --> 00:15:32,040 Speaker 2: tastes like to me. I'm doing it right, Okay, I'm 280 00:15:32,040 --> 00:15:34,560 Speaker 2: gonna do it right over my ash tray. Good for you. 281 00:15:35,040 --> 00:15:39,200 Speaker 2: So he's going in ladies and gentlemen, he's doing the 282 00:15:40,120 --> 00:15:44,920 Speaker 2: I don't know what he's doing. But do you get 283 00:15:45,600 --> 00:15:52,800 Speaker 2: You're like, oh, that's turkey and gravy. No idea, there's nothing. 284 00:15:56,400 --> 00:15:56,840 Speaker 1: Talk to me. 285 00:15:57,080 --> 00:15:59,120 Speaker 2: You what are you getting? Because I'm telling you it 286 00:15:59,160 --> 00:16:01,960 Speaker 2: was like white chocolate covered oreo with sprinkles. That's what 287 00:16:01,960 --> 00:16:02,600 Speaker 2: it tastes like to me. 288 00:16:04,520 --> 00:16:07,600 Speaker 1: I don't know what's happening. I have no idea what's 289 00:16:07,640 --> 00:16:09,920 Speaker 1: going on. I'm towley, I have no idea. What's going on. 290 00:16:11,000 --> 00:16:14,320 Speaker 1: M I'm gonna try a different one. I'm gonna try 291 00:16:14,320 --> 00:16:18,440 Speaker 1: different one. Huh mm hm. You know, just tastes like scam. 292 00:16:18,560 --> 00:16:25,880 Speaker 1: I can't open this one either. Listen, it's good. I 293 00:16:25,880 --> 00:16:28,720 Speaker 1: don't have a problem with it. It's not forty four 294 00:16:28,760 --> 00:16:33,160 Speaker 1: dollars for twelve good of course not. Oh, it's like 295 00:16:33,200 --> 00:16:35,920 Speaker 1: a pepper hit. That's all right, now you're now you're 296 00:16:35,960 --> 00:16:40,280 Speaker 1: just ridiculous. Well, is there a is there an Oreo that. 297 00:16:42,720 --> 00:16:47,120 Speaker 2: One of these these cookie meals that would have a 298 00:16:47,160 --> 00:16:53,280 Speaker 2: pepper dish in it? Are you getting anything? Does that 299 00:16:53,320 --> 00:16:54,360 Speaker 2: one even taste different? 300 00:16:54,960 --> 00:16:59,880 Speaker 1: Nope? If it's If it tastes different, it's my new 301 00:17:00,920 --> 00:17:02,680 Speaker 1: By the way, I'm not sure that's edible, my friend, 302 00:17:02,760 --> 00:17:10,680 Speaker 1: that's totally edible, too light, I already ate it. Wow, Oreo, 303 00:17:11,760 --> 00:17:14,480 Speaker 1: you can't sell people this disappointment? Are you out of 304 00:17:14,520 --> 00:17:17,879 Speaker 1: your minds? We're gonna we're gonna go over more of this. 305 00:17:17,960 --> 00:17:25,959 Speaker 1: We're gonna we're gonna try every single one of them, eat, drink, smoking. 306 00:17:26,080 --> 00:17:28,960 Speaker 1: Is your cigar bourbon foody, It's travaganza. I'm Tony Katz. 307 00:17:29,000 --> 00:17:31,439 Speaker 1: That's Fingers Bloy and I figured out the story with 308 00:17:31,480 --> 00:17:36,920 Speaker 1: the Oreos go on Fingers. It's very possible I'm going 309 00:17:36,960 --> 00:17:39,080 Speaker 1: to say things that I regret, and it's possible we're 310 00:17:39,080 --> 00:17:41,159 Speaker 1: going to get sued. Okay, I want to say for 311 00:17:41,240 --> 00:17:47,119 Speaker 1: the record that Oreo sends what I ordered. I also 312 00:17:47,160 --> 00:17:49,960 Speaker 1: want to say for the record that I cannot be 313 00:17:50,040 --> 00:17:55,720 Speaker 1: the only one who misinterpreted what was happening and says 314 00:17:55,720 --> 00:18:00,359 Speaker 1: to Oreo, never again, we are smoking the Rocky tell 315 00:18:00,720 --> 00:18:05,280 Speaker 1: the thirtieth This with the Mexican San Andreas Rapper. This uh, 316 00:18:05,680 --> 00:18:09,679 Speaker 1: these binders that have been aged for seven years, the 317 00:18:09,720 --> 00:18:13,919 Speaker 1: fillers I believe aged for five years, the fillers on 318 00:18:14,040 --> 00:18:17,600 Speaker 1: Durdam Nicaraguin. It's not It's a double binder from Nicaragua 319 00:18:17,680 --> 00:18:21,440 Speaker 1: and the binder seven years Mexican San Andreas Rapper. I'm 320 00:18:21,440 --> 00:18:23,360 Speaker 1: gonna hold off on that just for a moment. I'm 321 00:18:23,400 --> 00:18:25,199 Speaker 1: gonna get back to that, but I have to address 322 00:18:25,240 --> 00:18:29,200 Speaker 1: this Oreo thing. I'm I feel like I was taken. 323 00:18:30,520 --> 00:18:34,160 Speaker 1: Maybe it's my fault. I'm willing to accept that it's 324 00:18:34,200 --> 00:18:38,800 Speaker 1: my fault. But oh no. We read a story from 325 00:18:38,840 --> 00:18:42,720 Speaker 1: the USA today about how Oreo is putting out Thanksgiving 326 00:18:42,760 --> 00:18:46,879 Speaker 1: inspired cookies. I then clicked on oreo dot com and 327 00:18:46,960 --> 00:18:51,680 Speaker 1: came to see the Oreo Thanksgiving cookie tin twelve count 328 00:18:51,920 --> 00:18:54,800 Speaker 1: forty four dollars and ninety nine cents. I ordered it 329 00:18:54,880 --> 00:19:01,320 Speaker 1: right there and then the Thanksgiving cookie tin is regular 330 00:19:01,440 --> 00:19:04,560 Speaker 1: Oreos that have Thanksgiving themes. 331 00:19:05,040 --> 00:19:06,959 Speaker 2: Okay, that's all that is. 332 00:19:08,440 --> 00:19:11,760 Speaker 1: If I, by the way, they're now selling another one 333 00:19:11,960 --> 00:19:16,159 Speaker 1: that's only nineteen ninety nine. It's right there on the website. 334 00:19:17,520 --> 00:19:21,080 Speaker 1: There's the forty four dollars and ninety nine cent one, 335 00:19:21,320 --> 00:19:23,560 Speaker 1: and then there's the nineteen ninety nine one, and right 336 00:19:23,560 --> 00:19:27,840 Speaker 1: next to it there is the Oreo Thanksgiving Caramel apple 337 00:19:27,920 --> 00:19:31,199 Speaker 1: Pie Oreos for fourteen dollars and ninety nine cents. You 338 00:19:31,280 --> 00:19:35,160 Speaker 1: had to order each one of those individually. It wasn't 339 00:19:35,160 --> 00:19:39,440 Speaker 1: the tin, the Thanksgiving tin in a conversation about Thanksgiving cookies, 340 00:19:39,720 --> 00:19:43,840 Speaker 1: isn't the Thanksgiving flavored Oreos? So did they send me 341 00:19:43,880 --> 00:19:46,000 Speaker 1: the right thing, the thing that I ordered? The answer 342 00:19:46,040 --> 00:19:51,679 Speaker 1: is yes, Oreo did that? Is that duplicitous? You're not 343 00:19:51,720 --> 00:19:54,879 Speaker 1: getting another order from me? Guys. You can argue that 344 00:19:54,920 --> 00:19:58,320 Speaker 1: it's my fault. I accept that I ordered it, but 345 00:19:58,520 --> 00:20:03,280 Speaker 1: oh my gosh, I was expecting this thing forty four 346 00:20:03,320 --> 00:20:05,359 Speaker 1: dollars and nineteen cents when I could have ordered the 347 00:20:05,400 --> 00:20:10,720 Speaker 1: same thing for twenty dollars. I don't understand it. And 348 00:20:10,760 --> 00:20:14,199 Speaker 1: then it's right there. It's the first thing if I 349 00:20:14,320 --> 00:20:18,240 Speaker 1: go to Oreo dot com. If I head over to 350 00:20:18,280 --> 00:20:21,880 Speaker 1: Oreo dot com, it was the first thing on there 351 00:20:22,720 --> 00:20:26,720 Speaker 1: that I had seen, right, I want the By the way, 352 00:20:26,720 --> 00:20:29,440 Speaker 1: if you get if you get the Oreo Holiday cookie tin, 353 00:20:29,480 --> 00:20:31,520 Speaker 1: it's forty four to ninety nine. Then there's another one 354 00:20:31,520 --> 00:20:34,080 Speaker 1: that's thirty one to nineteen thirty one dollars and nineteen cents, 355 00:20:34,200 --> 00:20:35,440 Speaker 1: and you go on down the line. It might be 356 00:20:35,480 --> 00:20:37,879 Speaker 1: a little too late for the Thanksgiving one day, they 357 00:20:37,880 --> 00:20:38,520 Speaker 1: have Christmas. 358 00:20:38,600 --> 00:20:41,520 Speaker 2: Now for the holiday ten it's now they're Christmas cookies. 359 00:20:42,000 --> 00:20:44,119 Speaker 2: I'm still trying to get information as far as a 360 00:20:44,160 --> 00:20:51,359 Speaker 2: description of what the cookie actually is, wrapped the Christmas cookies, 361 00:20:52,160 --> 00:20:55,920 Speaker 2: wrapped chocolate dipped cookies in a metal gifting tin. That's 362 00:20:55,960 --> 00:20:58,919 Speaker 2: white chocolate, is it not? I mean think it is 363 00:20:58,920 --> 00:20:59,440 Speaker 2: white chocolate. 364 00:20:59,480 --> 00:21:05,000 Speaker 1: By the way, Uh, well it says it says individually 365 00:21:05,040 --> 00:21:09,960 Speaker 1: wrapped chocolate tip cookies. I I will accept any responsibility. 366 00:21:10,000 --> 00:21:12,439 Speaker 1: It's one hundred percent on me. I am saying that 367 00:21:12,560 --> 00:21:16,280 Speaker 1: as a consumer, as the person who would be like, oh, 368 00:21:16,359 --> 00:21:21,280 Speaker 1: maybe an Oreo Nah, I could be totally wrong. I 369 00:21:21,520 --> 00:21:23,399 Speaker 1: could have just said, you know what, I screwed up 370 00:21:23,480 --> 00:21:26,960 Speaker 1: on the order. It was the Thanksgiving cookie tin. From 371 00:21:27,000 --> 00:21:31,920 Speaker 1: an article at USA Today that talks about Thanksgiving flavored cookies. 372 00:21:32,359 --> 00:21:34,840 Speaker 1: What exactly is a guy supposed to do except say 373 00:21:34,840 --> 00:21:36,120 Speaker 1: here's my money? Right? 374 00:21:36,440 --> 00:21:40,200 Speaker 2: I will say this too, even if you say, okay, 375 00:21:40,560 --> 00:21:45,560 Speaker 2: my bad, full responsibility. There's no way. How how do 376 00:21:45,600 --> 00:21:49,479 Speaker 2: you sleep at night? Forty five dollars for this insane 377 00:21:49,680 --> 00:21:50,800 Speaker 2: for twelve cookies. 378 00:21:51,000 --> 00:21:52,879 Speaker 1: The only thing they could have done more to insult 379 00:21:52,920 --> 00:21:55,560 Speaker 1: me is ask me for a tip, like that's the 380 00:21:55,720 --> 00:22:00,040 Speaker 1: only way twelve oreos individually wrapped that you need a 381 00:22:00,240 --> 00:22:03,760 Speaker 1: knife to open. Wow. 382 00:22:04,320 --> 00:22:06,080 Speaker 2: And then you get this tin that you can keep 383 00:22:06,480 --> 00:22:11,160 Speaker 2: to put, you know, your your pocket change in, and 384 00:22:11,160 --> 00:22:12,840 Speaker 2: you know, and we're not even making pennies anymore. 385 00:22:12,880 --> 00:22:17,160 Speaker 1: And Oreo, just so we're clear, I would have rather 386 00:22:17,200 --> 00:22:20,280 Speaker 1: had a double stuff. The double stuff would be better. 387 00:22:21,000 --> 00:22:22,560 Speaker 2: That's that's actually eighty dollars. 388 00:22:22,760 --> 00:22:27,760 Speaker 1: Oh wow, because it's double because it's double. Wow? Is 389 00:22:27,840 --> 00:22:32,439 Speaker 1: that that? So? Now? I ask you? Am I frustrated 390 00:22:32,480 --> 00:22:36,960 Speaker 1: at myself? Am I frustrated with Oreo? Or is the answer? Yes? 391 00:22:39,359 --> 00:22:42,520 Speaker 1: I'm willing to go with yes it is. Yes, it's yes. Right. 392 00:22:42,720 --> 00:22:43,000 Speaker 2: Yeah. 393 00:22:43,720 --> 00:22:46,200 Speaker 1: I didn't read it well enough, but it said the 394 00:22:46,240 --> 00:22:49,879 Speaker 1: Oreo Thanksgiving to cookie tin and then it says twelve 395 00:22:49,960 --> 00:22:53,920 Speaker 1: count classic Oreo flavor and I saw Thanksgiving cooking tin, 396 00:22:54,200 --> 00:22:56,240 Speaker 1: and I said take my money, because you had it 397 00:22:56,280 --> 00:22:58,720 Speaker 1: in your head that I was getting the Thanksgiving thing. Yep, 398 00:22:58,840 --> 00:23:02,280 Speaker 1: So that's what happened there. That's totally on me. You see, kids, 399 00:23:02,400 --> 00:23:06,440 Speaker 1: that's called taking responsibility. Then I saw what you sent, 400 00:23:07,920 --> 00:23:10,679 Speaker 1: and you're gonna really charge people forty four dollars and 401 00:23:10,720 --> 00:23:16,639 Speaker 1: ninety nine cents for this. And then on top of it, 402 00:23:16,680 --> 00:23:19,800 Speaker 1: you made Tony eat paper. No, no, no, the paper 403 00:23:19,880 --> 00:23:23,200 Speaker 1: is edible. That that's edible right there. See, that's that's 404 00:23:23,200 --> 00:23:26,440 Speaker 1: made out of sugar and love. By the way, I 405 00:23:26,560 --> 00:23:28,919 Speaker 1: now spent forty four dollars and ninety nine cents to 406 00:23:28,920 --> 00:23:33,800 Speaker 1: get diabetes. That's basically what happened there. Oh am, I frustrated. 407 00:23:33,800 --> 00:23:35,720 Speaker 1: Did you see the asterisk on the bottom? Don't eat 408 00:23:35,800 --> 00:23:38,080 Speaker 1: the paper on there? That doesn't say that. Okay, no 409 00:23:38,119 --> 00:23:39,000 Speaker 1: way is to say that. 410 00:23:40,240 --> 00:23:42,600 Speaker 2: Listen, you have every right to be frustrated. 411 00:23:42,680 --> 00:23:43,879 Speaker 1: You want to take this home to the kids? 412 00:23:45,400 --> 00:23:48,480 Speaker 2: No, you know you spent so much money on this, 413 00:23:49,119 --> 00:23:50,080 Speaker 2: take half of them home. 414 00:23:50,160 --> 00:23:54,040 Speaker 1: I tried one. I tried too, right, So so my 415 00:23:54,119 --> 00:23:55,800 Speaker 1: kids are gonna get like half an oreo. I'm gonna 416 00:23:55,800 --> 00:23:59,560 Speaker 1: be like merry Christmas, Dad, We're Jewish. Here you go. 417 00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:01,720 Speaker 1: There are. 418 00:24:03,240 --> 00:24:07,480 Speaker 2: Deals right now where you can at I think Walmart 419 00:24:07,680 --> 00:24:12,600 Speaker 2: for a family of four, you can order Thanksgiving dinner 420 00:24:13,000 --> 00:24:15,880 Speaker 2: and it would cost less than this Oreo ten rankies 421 00:24:17,240 --> 00:24:18,600 Speaker 2: exactly Happy Thanksgiving. 422 00:24:19,920 --> 00:24:22,800 Speaker 1: I don't even know what to say. Now. Let me 423 00:24:22,960 --> 00:24:26,080 Speaker 1: also say if they want to charge forty four dollars 424 00:24:26,119 --> 00:24:29,760 Speaker 1: and ninety nine cents for this, they can. People decided 425 00:24:29,760 --> 00:24:31,439 Speaker 1: to buy it. I knew it was expensive when I 426 00:24:31,480 --> 00:24:33,440 Speaker 1: did it. I want to try it for the kitch, 427 00:24:33,480 --> 00:24:36,960 Speaker 1: for the show. I feel like I let everybody down. Oh, 428 00:24:37,040 --> 00:24:41,119 Speaker 1: don't do that, but I know, don't do that. But 429 00:24:41,320 --> 00:24:45,679 Speaker 1: I swear to you tell me I'm not. I'm not. 430 00:24:45,760 --> 00:24:49,000 Speaker 1: I don't I get some solace in that. That's screwed up. 431 00:24:49,200 --> 00:24:50,800 Speaker 1: Yes it is. That's screwed up. 432 00:24:51,600 --> 00:24:53,440 Speaker 2: I'm curious, and I'm going. 433 00:24:53,359 --> 00:24:55,679 Speaker 1: To get the caveat efter Buyer Beware, It's on me. 434 00:24:56,040 --> 00:24:58,359 Speaker 2: I'm going to get the folks at the Fingers Muley 435 00:24:58,400 --> 00:25:02,040 Speaker 2: Institute of Institutes for Institut huotes uh to do a survey. 436 00:25:02,640 --> 00:25:09,000 Speaker 2: Does Oreo have the kind of collectibility following the rabbit 437 00:25:09,080 --> 00:25:12,439 Speaker 2: Oreo fans? I'm not as much as Coca cola. But 438 00:25:12,760 --> 00:25:17,639 Speaker 2: are people running around wanting to collect Oreo memorabilia? Is 439 00:25:17,680 --> 00:25:18,200 Speaker 2: this a thing? 440 00:25:18,280 --> 00:25:19,520 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, I gotta get it. 441 00:25:19,600 --> 00:25:21,120 Speaker 2: They've got a cool Oreo tin. 442 00:25:21,560 --> 00:25:22,720 Speaker 1: I need that is. 443 00:25:23,720 --> 00:25:25,480 Speaker 2: Are people into Oreo that much? 444 00:25:25,600 --> 00:25:27,919 Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean they collect Coca cola stuff 445 00:25:27,960 --> 00:25:33,919 Speaker 1: that's still in some places. They people collect everything, And 446 00:25:33,960 --> 00:25:36,720 Speaker 1: I gotta met. The tin's cute. The tin I think 447 00:25:36,720 --> 00:25:39,480 Speaker 1: should be made of a higher quality. But the tin 448 00:25:39,600 --> 00:25:43,840 Speaker 1: is cute. And I'm not anti Oreo. Oreos are delicious. 449 00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:45,400 Speaker 1: I'm not saying no. 450 00:25:45,880 --> 00:25:49,639 Speaker 2: The only thing you're collecting with that is debt, debt 451 00:25:49,840 --> 00:25:52,080 Speaker 2: and a high blood bludge. 452 00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:56,680 Speaker 1: This is wow as a thing, So yeah, it is. 453 00:25:56,760 --> 00:26:01,960 Speaker 1: But I don't think uh uh the I don't think 454 00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:03,879 Speaker 1: this is gonna be a collectible. I don't think this 455 00:26:03,920 --> 00:26:07,200 Speaker 1: is gonna be like an Oreo collectible of this tink. 456 00:26:07,080 --> 00:26:09,040 Speaker 2: The other thing that bothers me and I know we're 457 00:26:09,080 --> 00:26:10,440 Speaker 2: maybe beating a dead horse here. 458 00:26:10,480 --> 00:26:11,399 Speaker 1: It's a bit late for that. 459 00:26:12,560 --> 00:26:15,240 Speaker 2: How that tin is so chintzy. 460 00:26:15,720 --> 00:26:18,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't think we've ever beat up on a 461 00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:21,359 Speaker 1: product this bad before. By the way, if if I 462 00:26:21,400 --> 00:26:23,200 Speaker 1: squeeze it, i'll fold it. 463 00:26:23,359 --> 00:26:27,119 Speaker 2: It'll crush Yeah, it'll look like you're from the planet Krypton. 464 00:26:27,119 --> 00:26:30,639 Speaker 1: Which is not true. It is not true. I'm here legally. 465 00:26:33,119 --> 00:26:39,560 Speaker 1: What Superman came to the country illegally? He didn't stop 466 00:26:39,560 --> 00:26:40,439 Speaker 1: at the space border. 467 00:26:41,600 --> 00:26:42,439 Speaker 2: Do you really know that? 468 00:26:43,600 --> 00:26:46,040 Speaker 1: I've read all the research. 469 00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:50,160 Speaker 2: Let meant chat GPT. 470 00:26:51,320 --> 00:26:56,080 Speaker 1: I tried, guys, I tried for you. I would get 471 00:26:56,160 --> 00:26:58,000 Speaker 1: I would try again in order the right ones, But 472 00:26:58,080 --> 00:27:08,399 Speaker 1: I can't afford that. Yeah, really is so smoking the 473 00:27:08,520 --> 00:27:14,480 Speaker 1: Rocky Patel thirtieth anniversary nice stick? Is it worth the 474 00:27:14,560 --> 00:27:17,560 Speaker 1: seventeen dollars and fifty cents? Well, I mean that's really 475 00:27:17,600 --> 00:27:19,399 Speaker 1: a matter of opinion. Is it in our humid art 476 00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:21,560 Speaker 1: seventeen dollars and fifty cents? Well, we haven't figured that 477 00:27:21,600 --> 00:27:23,879 Speaker 1: out yet. It's eat, drink, smoke. I'm Tony Katz and 478 00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:29,000 Speaker 1: that's a fingers. We're putting the Oreo travesty nightmare behind us. 479 00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:42,720 Speaker 1: Oreo Gate. Oreo Gate, Yes, Oreo Gate is completely behind us. 480 00:27:42,760 --> 00:27:48,959 Speaker 1: Mistakes were made on both parts. Just moving on, Oh, 481 00:27:49,160 --> 00:27:52,040 Speaker 1: mortified and still yet angered. 482 00:27:52,119 --> 00:27:55,800 Speaker 2: You know what, if mistakes are to be made, may 483 00:27:55,880 --> 00:28:00,719 Speaker 2: they always include sprinkles? Are a poet? 484 00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:06,720 Speaker 1: Thank you, you truly, you truly have away with words, sprinkles. 485 00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:09,480 Speaker 1: It's a nice cigar. We're in the first third of 486 00:28:09,520 --> 00:28:11,639 Speaker 1: this cigar, and really, you know, I talked about it 487 00:28:11,680 --> 00:28:14,479 Speaker 1: being tobacco forward at the first I still think that 488 00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:17,680 Speaker 1: that's accurate. There is a nice richness with that tobacco, 489 00:28:17,760 --> 00:28:21,000 Speaker 1: though that little bit of wood spice is very much 490 00:28:21,080 --> 00:28:24,760 Speaker 1: in the subdued spot right now. And maybe a little 491 00:28:24,800 --> 00:28:27,679 Speaker 1: more coco is coming from this now. That could be 492 00:28:27,680 --> 00:28:29,520 Speaker 1: the oreo talking, but I think it is the cigar 493 00:28:29,600 --> 00:28:31,600 Speaker 1: talking right here. I really want to get into the 494 00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:34,720 Speaker 1: second third and really see where this cigar goes and 495 00:28:34,760 --> 00:28:37,240 Speaker 1: where it builds from the Rocky Hotel thirtieth is what 496 00:28:37,280 --> 00:28:40,600 Speaker 1: we're smoking with that San Andreas rapper and that seven 497 00:28:40,680 --> 00:28:46,080 Speaker 1: year double binder, so's they're pretty proud of that, that 498 00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:49,640 Speaker 1: Nicaraguan binder there. So we'll see where the cigar goes. 499 00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:52,480 Speaker 1: But great hand feel, love the box press, and. 500 00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:55,440 Speaker 2: The draw is fantastic, absolutely, and I agree with you 501 00:28:55,480 --> 00:28:59,400 Speaker 2: about the richness that being tobacco forward. I'm getting some 502 00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:02,800 Speaker 2: there's a nice cedar note there, but I'm not getting 503 00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:06,719 Speaker 2: any kind of sweetness off the stick, either from a 504 00:29:06,760 --> 00:29:10,360 Speaker 2: cocoa or a coffee or a cream or anything like that, 505 00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:13,720 Speaker 2: and I'm not getting any spice out of this so far. 506 00:29:14,360 --> 00:29:16,600 Speaker 2: I'm gonna be interested to see as I move into 507 00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:19,440 Speaker 2: the second third if some spice picks up for me. 508 00:29:19,800 --> 00:29:23,760 Speaker 1: But fingers, we missed it before because oreogate, it's time 509 00:29:23,800 --> 00:29:27,640 Speaker 1: for news of the week Tony retailer. 510 00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:33,160 Speaker 2: The retailer Walmart said it expects full year net sales 511 00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:38,640 Speaker 2: to climb between five percent around five percent, which is 512 00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:43,760 Speaker 2: actually higher than it first expected. Boy, I'm totally slaughtering this. 513 00:29:43,960 --> 00:29:44,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, abusing it. 514 00:29:45,080 --> 00:29:47,800 Speaker 2: I gotta be honest with you. It's the sprinkles I 515 00:29:47,840 --> 00:29:53,680 Speaker 2: get you anyway. People either on Wall Street, you ask them, 516 00:29:53,840 --> 00:29:56,720 Speaker 2: you ask the folks that are running Walmart. They're very, 517 00:29:56,840 --> 00:30:00,360 Speaker 2: very thrilled with the numbers so far from the third quarter, 518 00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:05,240 Speaker 2: and they're anticipating higher than expected sales over the Christmas holidays. 519 00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:08,840 Speaker 1: Now people are gonna say, see, the economy is getting better. 520 00:30:08,880 --> 00:30:10,480 Speaker 1: I want it to get better. Let me tell you, 521 00:30:10,600 --> 00:30:12,600 Speaker 1: let me let me sound the alarm bell right now. 522 00:30:13,160 --> 00:30:15,560 Speaker 1: I don't like what I'm seeing at all. I do 523 00:30:15,640 --> 00:30:20,480 Speaker 1: not like what I am seeing anywhere in the slightest. 524 00:30:20,800 --> 00:30:23,920 Speaker 1: I don't see the interest rate cut coming. I see 525 00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:28,320 Speaker 1: where the market was looking at groups like Nvidia and 526 00:30:28,400 --> 00:30:31,000 Speaker 1: those who make the chips for AI and saying, oh, 527 00:30:31,040 --> 00:30:34,320 Speaker 1: everything's fine, and then no, not so much. You take 528 00:30:34,360 --> 00:30:36,040 Speaker 1: a look at the jobs numbers that just came out. 529 00:30:36,080 --> 00:30:38,760 Speaker 1: They're the September jobs numbers. They only came out now 530 00:30:38,840 --> 00:30:41,760 Speaker 1: because of the government shutdown, and no one seems to 531 00:30:41,800 --> 00:30:43,920 Speaker 1: be moved by them or care about them, even though 532 00:30:43,960 --> 00:30:46,440 Speaker 1: it shows more jobs in September than we thought, by 533 00:30:46,480 --> 00:30:48,760 Speaker 1: more than double one hundred nineteen thousand as opposed to 534 00:30:48,800 --> 00:30:51,600 Speaker 1: the fifty thousand dollars estimate, but unemployment went up to 535 00:30:51,720 --> 00:30:56,720 Speaker 1: four point four percent. I'm looking at the creative destruction 536 00:30:56,840 --> 00:31:00,600 Speaker 1: is the wrong word? Follow me here. Spends and AI 537 00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:03,520 Speaker 1: have been massive to the tunes of trillions of dollars, 538 00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:06,280 Speaker 1: and now companies want to see if they could utilize 539 00:31:06,280 --> 00:31:09,080 Speaker 1: the AI to reduce their costs. So you're going to 540 00:31:09,120 --> 00:31:11,960 Speaker 1: see a lot of people be cutting from their cut 541 00:31:11,960 --> 00:31:15,040 Speaker 1: from their jobs. Verizon just cut what was it, seventeen thousand, 542 00:31:15,080 --> 00:31:20,880 Speaker 1: and Amazon you have ups. I'm hearing some other major 543 00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:23,560 Speaker 1: tech groups are going to be doing some serious cutting 544 00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:28,320 Speaker 1: in the coming days and weeks. Walmart has been a 545 00:31:28,360 --> 00:31:31,720 Speaker 1: defact a default setting for people because that's where things 546 00:31:31,760 --> 00:31:34,520 Speaker 1: are more affordable. So their sales being up. I mean, 547 00:31:34,560 --> 00:31:37,120 Speaker 1: I'm happy to see it, but it isn't necessarily the 548 00:31:37,160 --> 00:31:40,920 Speaker 1: sign of a good sign. I don't like anything I'm 549 00:31:40,920 --> 00:31:43,400 Speaker 1: seeing from this economy. It makes you I hate it. 550 00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:45,680 Speaker 2: It makes you feel like consumers are making a choice, 551 00:31:45,680 --> 00:31:48,000 Speaker 2: and the choice is to try to get you know, 552 00:31:48,080 --> 00:31:51,400 Speaker 2: their their costs down, whether it's either Christmas gifts, holiday 553 00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:54,720 Speaker 2: gifts coming up, or you know, just food and clothing 554 00:31:54,760 --> 00:31:58,440 Speaker 2: in general. They're turning to Walmart because things have gotten 555 00:31:58,440 --> 00:31:59,640 Speaker 2: so expensive. 556 00:31:59,200 --> 00:32:01,720 Speaker 1: And so there's a move from the White House. They're 557 00:32:01,760 --> 00:32:06,040 Speaker 1: eliminating tariffs on beef and coffee and a couple other 558 00:32:06,120 --> 00:32:09,760 Speaker 1: staple things because they recognize the tariffs or taxes. They 559 00:32:09,880 --> 00:32:12,320 Speaker 1: also say in the same breadth that the tariffs are 560 00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:15,000 Speaker 1: the reasons we've been able to engage so many deals 561 00:32:15,360 --> 00:32:19,280 Speaker 1: and investment into the US trillions of dollars. The problem 562 00:32:19,360 --> 00:32:23,240 Speaker 1: is it's not actualized yet. It's all in the ether. 563 00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:26,240 Speaker 1: We haven't seen the money come in to the point 564 00:32:26,280 --> 00:32:29,480 Speaker 1: where a shovel goes into the grounds and something is 565 00:32:29,560 --> 00:32:33,239 Speaker 1: created or made or invested. So until we see that, 566 00:32:33,280 --> 00:32:35,440 Speaker 1: we don't really know what we have is a lot 567 00:32:35,480 --> 00:32:38,440 Speaker 1: of hope that it's going to be the case. So 568 00:32:39,560 --> 00:32:45,479 Speaker 1: you have in its political you have the Republicans saying 569 00:32:45,840 --> 00:32:49,680 Speaker 1: that the greatness of this economy is on its way 570 00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:52,520 Speaker 1: and the inflation never really exploded the way people said 571 00:32:52,520 --> 00:32:55,240 Speaker 1: it would because of tariffs, which is absolutely true. By 572 00:32:55,240 --> 00:32:58,360 Speaker 1: the way, you have the Democrat saying, yeah, but you 573 00:32:58,400 --> 00:32:59,840 Speaker 1: said that you were going to lower prices in the 574 00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:01,840 Speaker 1: prices are still high on this, prices are still high 575 00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:03,880 Speaker 1: on that, and people are having trouble with this, and 576 00:33:03,960 --> 00:33:06,600 Speaker 1: now people more people are buying at Walmart. And then 577 00:33:06,800 --> 00:33:09,239 Speaker 1: the Republicans say, well, egg prices are down and they 578 00:33:09,280 --> 00:33:11,480 Speaker 1: were massively high, and energy prices are down because gas 579 00:33:11,520 --> 00:33:15,080 Speaker 1: prices are down there at the same level they were 580 00:33:15,640 --> 00:33:19,400 Speaker 1: right before covid Uh. And then the Democrats are going 581 00:33:19,440 --> 00:33:22,160 Speaker 1: to say, but you promised lower prices and you didn't 582 00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:24,680 Speaker 1: bring it, and now people have a worse quality of life. 583 00:33:24,920 --> 00:33:30,720 Speaker 1: So that political fight continues. If AI is the reason 584 00:33:31,080 --> 00:33:35,520 Speaker 1: that companies start to shed employees, what am I supposed 585 00:33:35,560 --> 00:33:37,479 Speaker 1: to say to that in terms of who's to blame, 586 00:33:38,040 --> 00:33:41,400 Speaker 1: Because it's very possible no one's to blame. This is 587 00:33:41,560 --> 00:33:45,680 Speaker 1: just one of those cycles that comes when there's innovation 588 00:33:45,840 --> 00:33:51,200 Speaker 1: and the innovation and gase engages replacements and changes in workforces. 589 00:33:51,520 --> 00:33:55,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, because you can't block AI's progress. I don't think 590 00:33:55,480 --> 00:33:58,480 Speaker 2: so it's impossible, because you're gonna have other countries continue 591 00:33:58,520 --> 00:34:03,040 Speaker 2: to invest in AI. Use AI your AI right now exactly, 592 00:34:03,280 --> 00:34:06,400 Speaker 2: and you need to unplug me and plug me back in. 593 00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:10,040 Speaker 2: Having said that, though, it's what's interesting is you mentioned 594 00:34:10,040 --> 00:34:15,319 Speaker 2: these conflicting economic numbers, and now there's talk because of 595 00:34:15,440 --> 00:34:19,560 Speaker 2: the jobs numbers, while they weren't fantastic, they were better 596 00:34:19,600 --> 00:34:23,040 Speaker 2: than expected in September. Now there's talk that the Fed 597 00:34:23,239 --> 00:34:27,440 Speaker 2: may quite possibly not cut rates in December because of 598 00:34:27,480 --> 00:34:30,799 Speaker 2: this information. And like you mentioned earlier, we may not 599 00:34:30,920 --> 00:34:34,279 Speaker 2: get in October jobs report, it may not come out. 600 00:34:34,360 --> 00:34:36,959 Speaker 1: Right, Has there been an explain? Is it all based 601 00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:40,040 Speaker 1: off a shutdown? Everything's based on on the shutdown? Why 602 00:34:40,040 --> 00:34:42,840 Speaker 1: those numbers haven't come out? And also you can argue 603 00:34:42,840 --> 00:34:44,480 Speaker 1: that the markets have kind of already baked it in. 604 00:34:44,680 --> 00:34:46,200 Speaker 1: All right. We didn't get the numbers, but we kind 605 00:34:46,200 --> 00:34:48,840 Speaker 1: of figured it out, all right, we saw what's happening. 606 00:34:49,040 --> 00:34:51,719 Speaker 1: And then there's the argument that's made by economists. I 607 00:34:51,760 --> 00:34:53,400 Speaker 1: do a lot of talking with them on my on 608 00:34:53,440 --> 00:34:56,319 Speaker 1: my other shows that maybe this is good because we 609 00:34:56,360 --> 00:34:58,400 Speaker 1: always are looking at what the government puts out as 610 00:34:58,440 --> 00:35:00,839 Speaker 1: the numbers. We should be looking at howusinesses are doing, 611 00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:03,560 Speaker 1: how they're thriving, how manufacturing is going, and take a 612 00:35:03,560 --> 00:35:06,120 Speaker 1: look at businesses and make a decision on what's happening. 613 00:35:06,200 --> 00:35:08,319 Speaker 1: But if you don't get the rate cut, which means 614 00:35:08,320 --> 00:35:10,640 Speaker 1: you don't have a full one percent cut of the 615 00:35:10,680 --> 00:35:14,799 Speaker 1: interest rate, of that of that lending rate, then then 616 00:35:14,920 --> 00:35:16,759 Speaker 1: the market says, well, wait, you promised this a one 617 00:35:16,760 --> 00:35:19,359 Speaker 1: percent cut, so you might see a reduction in the 618 00:35:19,400 --> 00:35:25,320 Speaker 1: market there. So there's you could have a very different 619 00:35:25,320 --> 00:35:29,759 Speaker 1: scenario next September. Things could be humming and crazy. And 620 00:35:29,800 --> 00:35:32,960 Speaker 1: now the investment has started happening, and therefore jobs started happening, 621 00:35:32,960 --> 00:35:37,360 Speaker 1: and construction jobs and manufacturing jobs and other things. It's possible, 622 00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:40,280 Speaker 1: and people, a lot of faith kids figure a long way, 623 00:35:41,120 --> 00:35:44,839 Speaker 1: but it ain't there now, and right now it ain't great. 624 00:35:45,520 --> 00:35:49,520 Speaker 2: And I'll tell you something else. Right, the interest rates 625 00:35:49,719 --> 00:35:53,120 Speaker 2: need to be cut further because I'm planning on refinancing 626 00:35:53,160 --> 00:35:58,840 Speaker 2: in February. So you do people hear me calls and 627 00:35:58,960 --> 00:36:02,839 Speaker 2: call your local, call your congressman, call your senator, call 628 00:36:02,960 --> 00:36:08,800 Speaker 2: Jerome pal Jerome put pressure on the FED because Fingers 629 00:36:08,880 --> 00:36:13,040 Speaker 2: needs to refinance his mortgage in February. No, I it's 630 00:36:13,640 --> 00:36:19,080 Speaker 2: this whole shutdown, the you know, the the aftermath of this. 631 00:36:19,760 --> 00:36:22,399 Speaker 2: It's really interesting how it's played games not only on 632 00:36:22,640 --> 00:36:24,719 Speaker 2: you know, jobs reports and what the Fed's gonna do, 633 00:36:25,040 --> 00:36:29,919 Speaker 2: but also how long was that the continue this this 634 00:36:30,320 --> 00:36:31,560 Speaker 2: the cr CR how long? 635 00:36:31,719 --> 00:36:38,960 Speaker 1: Oh that's gonna run through January? I swear now you 636 00:36:39,040 --> 00:36:42,280 Speaker 1: understand why I'm so upset about the oreos. Finally something 637 00:36:42,400 --> 00:36:46,200 Speaker 1: serious to worry about. You need a good entree defiancebeef 638 00:36:46,400 --> 00:36:49,279 Speaker 1: dot Com great sponsor of ours, where you can order 639 00:36:49,280 --> 00:36:51,399 Speaker 1: a quarter cow at half or a full. You get 640 00:36:51,400 --> 00:36:53,600 Speaker 1: it butchered exactly the way you want it, and it's 641 00:36:53,640 --> 00:36:56,960 Speaker 1: delivered directly to your door, frozen in the vacuum pack, 642 00:36:57,239 --> 00:36:59,520 Speaker 1: ready to go. They are a farm right here in 643 00:36:59,600 --> 00:37:02,680 Speaker 1: Indiana and they are just serving up some of the 644 00:37:02,719 --> 00:37:07,000 Speaker 1: best rib eyes and tenderloins. It strips the ground. Beef, 645 00:37:07,040 --> 00:37:11,800 Speaker 1: the brisket absolutely incredible, everything aged twenty one days. The flavor, 646 00:37:11,880 --> 00:37:15,239 Speaker 1: the tenderness, it is all there and you decide how 647 00:37:15,280 --> 00:37:17,920 Speaker 1: you want it cut, you decide the thickness. I actually 648 00:37:18,040 --> 00:37:20,160 Speaker 1: got the call from the butcher yesterday. Got a call 649 00:37:20,239 --> 00:37:22,680 Speaker 1: him and say, Okay, here's what I want. I'm ready 650 00:37:22,680 --> 00:37:25,520 Speaker 1: to go. I'm telling you I'm gonna have my beef 651 00:37:25,560 --> 00:37:28,080 Speaker 1: in a week. I have been waiting, I have been patient. 652 00:37:28,320 --> 00:37:30,520 Speaker 1: I've been like, you don't worry about me last. I 653 00:37:30,560 --> 00:37:32,440 Speaker 1: want to see everybody else to be happy. People have 654 00:37:32,480 --> 00:37:35,320 Speaker 1: been ordering you. 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Thanksgiving is almost here, and you 663 00:38:08,360 --> 00:38:10,680 Speaker 1: think I'd be more thankful for being able to have 664 00:38:10,719 --> 00:38:12,240 Speaker 1: the opportunity to spend. 665 00:38:12,080 --> 00:38:15,600 Speaker 2: Forty five dollars on the wrong oreos. I'm glad you're 666 00:38:15,600 --> 00:38:18,280 Speaker 2: not holding on to this and letting it fester. 667 00:38:18,760 --> 00:38:21,440 Speaker 1: T drink smoke on Tony Katz. That right there is 668 00:38:21,480 --> 00:38:25,480 Speaker 1: America's favorite amateur drinker, Fingers molloy. And if you missed 669 00:38:25,640 --> 00:38:27,600 Speaker 1: the first hour of the show, you're gonna want to 670 00:38:27,600 --> 00:38:30,320 Speaker 1: get the podcast wherever it is you get your podcasts, Heat, Drink, Smoke. 671 00:38:31,040 --> 00:38:33,560 Speaker 1: There was a misque and a mishap with the oreos, 672 00:38:33,880 --> 00:38:36,000 Speaker 1: and I blame them as much as me, even though 673 00:38:36,040 --> 00:38:40,640 Speaker 1: it might be my fault. Fingers. Getting ready for Thanksgiving 674 00:38:41,040 --> 00:38:44,400 Speaker 1: means having a fine beverage to be able to give 675 00:38:44,880 --> 00:38:48,280 Speaker 1: those in attendance. Now are you hosting this year for Thanksgiving? 676 00:38:48,320 --> 00:38:50,640 Speaker 1: Are you gonna be having a big family gathering? No, 677 00:38:51,480 --> 00:38:53,600 Speaker 1: You're you're heading up heading up to Michigan. 678 00:38:53,840 --> 00:38:57,040 Speaker 2: Gonna spend some time at home first with Fingers Moy Senior, 679 00:38:57,080 --> 00:38:58,319 Speaker 2: and then head up to Michigan to. 680 00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:00,600 Speaker 1: The end. Lass. 681 00:39:01,320 --> 00:39:04,360 Speaker 2: That's the game plan, as long as the weather cooperates. 682 00:39:04,400 --> 00:39:05,959 Speaker 2: And we can get into that a little bit later, 683 00:39:05,960 --> 00:39:10,000 Speaker 2: because they're already predicting bad weather for the Thanksgiving holiday, 684 00:39:10,080 --> 00:39:11,640 Speaker 2: so I don't leave the house. Good for you? 685 00:39:11,760 --> 00:39:13,439 Speaker 1: That's it, right? Well, what aut you go? You're gonna 686 00:39:13,480 --> 00:39:15,799 Speaker 1: host a big shit? I was supposed to have one 687 00:39:15,880 --> 00:39:19,120 Speaker 1: hundred and forty two people here. Oh now, maybe I'll 688 00:39:19,160 --> 00:39:22,080 Speaker 1: just be eating by myself. I don't know what's going on. 689 00:39:22,160 --> 00:39:24,719 Speaker 1: All I know is I have a fifteen point five 690 00:39:24,760 --> 00:39:28,360 Speaker 1: pound brisket ready to go. I have a smaller brisket 691 00:39:28,600 --> 00:39:30,480 Speaker 1: that I'm going to make a mastrami out of. I've 692 00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:32,640 Speaker 1: got another brisket I'm gonna make burnt ends out of. 693 00:39:32,920 --> 00:39:36,000 Speaker 1: Then we've got a turkey. We have nine sides, and 694 00:39:36,239 --> 00:39:42,000 Speaker 1: of course diabetes and five oreos. Six nice. That's right 695 00:39:42,320 --> 00:39:45,480 Speaker 1: at four dollars each. But that's another story for another day. 696 00:39:45,800 --> 00:39:48,400 Speaker 1: You gotta have a good drink. Fingers Maloy may have 697 00:39:48,440 --> 00:39:54,400 Speaker 1: found one. This is the gym Beam Winter Reserve. I 698 00:39:54,600 --> 00:39:58,560 Speaker 1: have not heard of the gym Beam Winter Reserve. Fingers mLOY, 699 00:39:58,680 --> 00:40:02,800 Speaker 1: you found this in the shop. This is six years age, 700 00:40:03,440 --> 00:40:11,880 Speaker 1: finished in two toasted barrels, vanilla, spice, clove. They say 701 00:40:12,320 --> 00:40:17,399 Speaker 1: notes of vanilla and cinnamon. You I mean you got 702 00:40:17,400 --> 00:40:18,600 Speaker 1: a flavored bourbon here. 703 00:40:19,719 --> 00:40:22,920 Speaker 2: I saw Winter Reserve and it had been a while 704 00:40:22,960 --> 00:40:26,479 Speaker 2: since we've done anything from Jim Bean, So I thought 705 00:40:26,480 --> 00:40:30,839 Speaker 2: to myself, where I found this? I was looking for 706 00:40:32,160 --> 00:40:35,160 Speaker 2: a little gift package. You know, we love the gift 707 00:40:35,160 --> 00:40:36,200 Speaker 2: sets that come around there. 708 00:40:36,520 --> 00:40:38,960 Speaker 1: They say, you mean you you don't like the gift 709 00:40:39,440 --> 00:40:44,040 Speaker 1: You are obsessed with the gift sets. You love yourself 710 00:40:44,040 --> 00:40:44,680 Speaker 1: a good gift set. 711 00:40:44,719 --> 00:40:47,479 Speaker 2: Oh, it's cheaper than the normal bottle, and they'll throw 712 00:40:47,480 --> 00:40:51,239 Speaker 2: in a flask or rocks glass or a flask foot 713 00:40:51,320 --> 00:40:54,600 Speaker 2: rub exactly. So this was actually on its own. It 714 00:40:54,640 --> 00:40:57,480 Speaker 2: wasn't any gift set, but it was by the gift sets. 715 00:40:57,520 --> 00:40:59,800 Speaker 2: And I thought to myself, I have never seen the 716 00:41:00,719 --> 00:41:04,399 Speaker 2: Winter Reserve. I know that it is probably better than 717 00:41:04,400 --> 00:41:07,520 Speaker 2: the Fall Reserve, but not as good as the Spring Reserved. 718 00:41:08,320 --> 00:41:10,880 Speaker 1: The bottle is actually very pretty, and the label is 719 00:41:10,920 --> 00:41:14,440 Speaker 1: black and kind of copper. It's it's nicely done. And 720 00:41:14,480 --> 00:41:18,000 Speaker 1: the coloring here it's not as dark as I would like. 721 00:41:18,280 --> 00:41:23,640 Speaker 1: It's it's a it's a little more golden in that way. 722 00:41:23,719 --> 00:41:27,719 Speaker 1: But it does look good. It's it's certainly attractive enough. 723 00:41:28,800 --> 00:41:30,640 Speaker 2: Ooh, that's vanilla on the nose. 724 00:41:33,120 --> 00:41:36,520 Speaker 1: Not really getting it? No, do I have a cold? 725 00:41:36,840 --> 00:41:41,239 Speaker 1: I'm fine, right? Are you having a stroke? Somebody else? 726 00:41:41,239 --> 00:41:45,960 Speaker 1: Smell OREO? I know, but it's a nice nose. There's 727 00:41:46,000 --> 00:41:48,319 Speaker 1: actually a touch of oak on that nose. Oak on 728 00:41:48,400 --> 00:41:48,800 Speaker 1: the nose. 729 00:41:48,840 --> 00:41:51,040 Speaker 2: And then also I don't know if my mind is 730 00:41:51,040 --> 00:41:53,279 Speaker 2: playing tricks on me after you threw it out there. 731 00:41:53,320 --> 00:41:55,359 Speaker 2: But I am getting a little bit of that clove. 732 00:41:56,560 --> 00:42:01,040 Speaker 1: Maybe. Yeah, this is a six your age coming in 733 00:42:01,080 --> 00:42:03,400 Speaker 1: at eighty six proof. No applause from fingers. Boy, he 734 00:42:03,400 --> 00:42:07,200 Speaker 1: doesn't apply. He doesn't apply for anything that is less 735 00:42:07,200 --> 00:42:09,959 Speaker 1: than one hundred proof. And then mash bill is seventy 736 00:42:10,000 --> 00:42:12,880 Speaker 1: five percent corn, thirteen percent ride, twelve percent barley. So 737 00:42:12,880 --> 00:42:16,200 Speaker 1: seventy five percent corn would denote sweet right right off 738 00:42:16,280 --> 00:42:22,759 Speaker 1: the bat. Oh that's a pretty nice nose right there. Yeah, 739 00:42:22,840 --> 00:42:25,800 Speaker 1: it's a nice mix of sweet and oak. But Fingers, 740 00:42:25,880 --> 00:42:27,360 Speaker 1: enough sniffing. You ready for this? 741 00:42:27,400 --> 00:42:28,040 Speaker 2: I been ready for this. 742 00:42:28,560 --> 00:42:31,080 Speaker 1: Fingers malloy is going into the gym Beam Winter Reserve 743 00:42:31,160 --> 00:42:33,279 Speaker 1: doing what's known as the Kentucky chew, moving the juice 744 00:42:33,280 --> 00:42:36,200 Speaker 1: around the palate, trying to get a feel for the bourbon. 745 00:42:36,280 --> 00:42:39,200 Speaker 1: I'm a believer in the two SIPs methodology, the first 746 00:42:39,200 --> 00:42:41,080 Speaker 1: sip to set the taste buds, the second sip to 747 00:42:41,080 --> 00:42:45,480 Speaker 1: really get an idea of the flavors. Fingers, what you 748 00:42:45,520 --> 00:42:47,080 Speaker 1: just had yourself a little moment there, a little bit 749 00:42:47,120 --> 00:42:50,560 Speaker 1: of reflection, a little bit of Walden's pond, perhaps so 750 00:42:50,560 --> 00:42:52,719 Speaker 1: many feeling more like alan Alda than you ever thought 751 00:42:52,760 --> 00:42:57,840 Speaker 1: you would. Alan Alda, that's right. Wow, four seasons reference 752 00:42:58,680 --> 00:43:03,239 Speaker 1: four seasons? Yeah, that was was that before mash h No, 753 00:43:03,360 --> 00:43:06,280 Speaker 1: I believe that was after Mash was with Carol Burnett 754 00:43:06,440 --> 00:43:11,759 Speaker 1: readA Moreno and a young poly Shore. That's right. So 755 00:43:12,560 --> 00:43:15,919 Speaker 1: stole my line, which is actually his line. He stole 756 00:43:15,960 --> 00:43:18,200 Speaker 1: my line. So uh. 757 00:43:19,040 --> 00:43:21,360 Speaker 2: You know, you read the description and you try not 758 00:43:21,400 --> 00:43:25,680 Speaker 2: to let it influence your your review. But that oak 759 00:43:25,840 --> 00:43:30,960 Speaker 2: is there the there is a hint of vanilla. I 760 00:43:31,000 --> 00:43:33,120 Speaker 2: would I would, I would say, yeah, there is that 761 00:43:33,120 --> 00:43:36,920 Speaker 2: that that clove as well. There is ane, a nice 762 00:43:37,320 --> 00:43:39,880 Speaker 2: little bit of spice, but I wouldn't call it to me. 763 00:43:40,000 --> 00:43:44,240 Speaker 2: It didn't hit me as overly cinnamon. It's it's very nice. 764 00:43:44,360 --> 00:43:49,400 Speaker 2: Not really anything uh in this as far as the 765 00:43:49,440 --> 00:43:51,800 Speaker 2: notes go that are powerful. 766 00:43:51,840 --> 00:43:54,279 Speaker 1: Everything's very subtle. You are, by the way, right, there 767 00:43:54,320 --> 00:43:55,640 Speaker 1: is a little bit of clove in the nose. If 768 00:43:55,680 --> 00:43:57,719 Speaker 1: you really dig in, you really dig in deep. This 769 00:43:58,040 --> 00:44:01,160 Speaker 1: is from Jim Beam the good People, but Sentory, this 770 00:44:01,200 --> 00:44:04,160 Speaker 1: is the winter Reserve. I'm going in fingers Maloy. 771 00:44:04,520 --> 00:44:07,719 Speaker 2: He's going in ladies and gentlemen, and he's he's doing 772 00:44:07,760 --> 00:44:12,720 Speaker 2: what we like to call the sagon a swish Memphis munch, 773 00:44:13,880 --> 00:44:14,760 Speaker 2: chad nuka chomp. 774 00:44:16,200 --> 00:44:18,680 Speaker 1: Oh oh are you? 775 00:44:18,840 --> 00:44:20,080 Speaker 2: Are you okay? 776 00:44:20,120 --> 00:44:23,840 Speaker 1: There? Yeah? But I don't know if I'm happy? Uh oh, 777 00:44:23,880 --> 00:44:27,000 Speaker 1: what's wrong? Well, they sold me twelve oreos for forty 778 00:44:27,000 --> 00:44:30,000 Speaker 1: four Now again catch the podcast. 779 00:44:31,360 --> 00:44:35,640 Speaker 2: He's going back in for seconds. It's like it's Thanksgiving. 780 00:44:37,320 --> 00:44:45,759 Speaker 1: Okay, there's what is what is the word that I'm 781 00:44:45,800 --> 00:44:54,640 Speaker 1: looking for? That's that is sweet but also herbal and 782 00:44:54,800 --> 00:44:57,319 Speaker 1: I know some people are discussing this. We took a 783 00:44:57,320 --> 00:45:01,280 Speaker 1: look around as like a baking spice, and I'm nana, 784 00:45:01,280 --> 00:45:04,919 Speaker 1: that is not it? That is that is not it? 785 00:45:06,440 --> 00:45:11,040 Speaker 1: Even the vanilla, no, no, that is that is sweet. 786 00:45:11,040 --> 00:45:14,759 Speaker 1: But that's like prune sweet. And you're gonna be like, 787 00:45:14,880 --> 00:45:17,200 Speaker 1: that's not a good flavor. Actually for a lot of 788 00:45:17,200 --> 00:45:22,360 Speaker 1: people to an excellent flavor. It really is. The the 789 00:45:22,560 --> 00:45:26,640 Speaker 1: finish does have some spice on it, uh for sure. 790 00:45:27,600 --> 00:45:33,200 Speaker 1: That I get why people would consider that winter. I 791 00:45:33,280 --> 00:45:37,400 Speaker 1: get why people would consider that a tumnal for sure. 792 00:45:38,600 --> 00:45:41,680 Speaker 1: And I think that I got to admit, I think 793 00:45:41,719 --> 00:45:45,320 Speaker 1: that is your hot Toddy for that classic kind of 794 00:45:45,320 --> 00:45:51,640 Speaker 1: of flavoring is a winner. That's just I've been striking 795 00:45:51,680 --> 00:45:54,840 Speaker 1: out of my flavor profile for a few weeks now. 796 00:45:55,200 --> 00:45:58,160 Speaker 1: That is nowhere close to where I want to be. 797 00:45:58,520 --> 00:45:59,880 Speaker 2: It's not what I was expecting. 798 00:46:00,320 --> 00:46:03,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it's more flavorful than I was expected. 799 00:46:03,960 --> 00:46:07,000 Speaker 2: See I for me, you know, there's not a lot 800 00:46:07,000 --> 00:46:09,040 Speaker 2: of vanilla there. There's a little bit of vanilla, there's 801 00:46:09,239 --> 00:46:12,080 Speaker 2: there's oak, there's that clove that they were talking about. 802 00:46:12,080 --> 00:46:15,560 Speaker 2: There's some spice at the end. But you know you're thinking, oh, 803 00:46:15,680 --> 00:46:19,480 Speaker 2: by what you're hearing, okay, cinnamon and vanilla, And it's 804 00:46:19,560 --> 00:46:24,920 Speaker 2: like the notes aren't very strong pronounced. It's all subtle. 805 00:46:25,200 --> 00:46:28,680 Speaker 1: But is this in your liquor cabinet, Fingers malloy, That 806 00:46:28,960 --> 00:46:32,000 Speaker 1: is the question. We're gonna find out what the price is. 807 00:46:32,040 --> 00:46:34,160 Speaker 1: But what Fingers malloy paid for it, Well, that's a 808 00:46:34,200 --> 00:46:43,560 Speaker 1: whole nother story altogether. We got ripped off. Yeah. The 809 00:46:43,600 --> 00:46:49,239 Speaker 1: biggest question for any Thanksgiving meal is, hey, what are 810 00:46:49,239 --> 00:46:52,839 Speaker 1: the sides? Because when it comes to what it is 811 00:46:53,040 --> 00:46:56,800 Speaker 1: you have next to your turkey or for me, the brisket, 812 00:46:56,960 --> 00:47:00,560 Speaker 1: that's the meal. That's the stuff people show up eat, 813 00:47:00,600 --> 00:47:03,680 Speaker 1: drink smoke. I'm Tony Katz and that is America's favorite 814 00:47:03,680 --> 00:47:07,920 Speaker 1: amateur drinker. Fingers malloy right there, that's where you know them, 815 00:47:07,920 --> 00:47:11,720 Speaker 1: that's where you love them. And this is a story 816 00:47:11,840 --> 00:47:15,840 Speaker 1: about sides and where the debates are. There are five 817 00:47:16,000 --> 00:47:18,799 Speaker 1: sides that are being discussed right here, one of them 818 00:47:18,880 --> 00:47:22,440 Speaker 1: which is not actually a side, the others which are sides, 819 00:47:22,520 --> 00:47:26,520 Speaker 1: and they are the standards in this conversation. Now, my 820 00:47:26,640 --> 00:47:29,719 Speaker 1: Thanksgiving table, first of all, a little different maybe than 821 00:47:29,760 --> 00:47:32,719 Speaker 1: your Thanksgiving table, fingers Maloy. When you have the thanksgiving, 822 00:47:33,080 --> 00:47:36,920 Speaker 1: the traditional Maloy Thanksgiving, how does that go? How is 823 00:47:36,960 --> 00:47:41,720 Speaker 1: that meal structured? The main side, well, the main everything, 824 00:47:41,840 --> 00:47:46,000 Speaker 1: like the whole thing booze night. 825 00:47:46,600 --> 00:47:50,600 Speaker 2: First of all, that the turkey is smoked. Ah, yes, 826 00:47:50,680 --> 00:47:53,040 Speaker 2: because you have to. First of all, you have to 827 00:47:53,080 --> 00:47:56,160 Speaker 2: watch the turkey. You have to tend the turkey smoker 828 00:47:56,320 --> 00:47:59,120 Speaker 2: outside and what better way to do so than with 829 00:47:59,200 --> 00:48:02,400 Speaker 2: a cigar in a bourbon right science. Yes, And then 830 00:48:02,440 --> 00:48:05,640 Speaker 2: you free up the range for the sides, and for 831 00:48:05,800 --> 00:48:08,879 Speaker 2: us we do the funeral potatoes. Yes, we've sampled here, 832 00:48:10,440 --> 00:48:14,600 Speaker 2: green bean cast role, the stuffing, the cranberry sauce, the 833 00:48:15,040 --> 00:48:19,080 Speaker 2: yams with the melted marshmouth was on top, and of 834 00:48:19,080 --> 00:48:20,600 Speaker 2: course some sort of rolls you. 835 00:48:21,320 --> 00:48:23,120 Speaker 1: So, first of all, I don't think I've ever done 836 00:48:23,160 --> 00:48:25,880 Speaker 1: Thanksgiving where their roles on the table. Really, I know 837 00:48:26,880 --> 00:48:29,720 Speaker 1: the rolls don't make any sense. That don't make any sense. 838 00:48:30,280 --> 00:48:33,680 Speaker 1: I'm not anti roll, I'm just saying on a Thanksgiving table, 839 00:48:34,040 --> 00:48:37,000 Speaker 1: I don't get it, because that seems like you're filling 840 00:48:37,080 --> 00:48:40,040 Speaker 1: up on something that you're now missing out on all 841 00:48:40,080 --> 00:48:41,560 Speaker 1: the other things there. 842 00:48:42,000 --> 00:48:44,759 Speaker 2: To me, Tony, one of the most enjoyable things on 843 00:48:44,800 --> 00:48:49,600 Speaker 2: Thanksgiving is to have a roll fresh out of the 844 00:48:49,640 --> 00:48:52,359 Speaker 2: oven where you melt the butter right on top and 845 00:48:52,400 --> 00:48:55,440 Speaker 2: you cram it in your face. You don't even chew, 846 00:48:55,800 --> 00:48:59,680 Speaker 2: you shove the whole roll right in your mouth. It's fantastic, 847 00:49:00,120 --> 00:49:00,919 Speaker 2: but not for you. 848 00:49:01,320 --> 00:49:03,319 Speaker 1: It's I also don't know why you need that on Thanksgiving, 849 00:49:03,400 --> 00:49:04,200 Speaker 1: That's all I'm saying. 850 00:49:04,400 --> 00:49:06,080 Speaker 2: And then also you can make a little turkey sandwiches 851 00:49:06,080 --> 00:49:06,399 Speaker 2: with them. 852 00:49:06,440 --> 00:49:09,719 Speaker 1: Well that's what tomorrow's for. So the next day is 853 00:49:09,760 --> 00:49:15,680 Speaker 1: for Yeah, boy, you have your Thanksgiving dinner. It is 854 00:49:15,719 --> 00:49:18,239 Speaker 1: yours and you're allowed to enjoy it. We don't do 855 00:49:18,320 --> 00:49:23,560 Speaker 1: Greenyan cast role on on our Thanksgiving table because we're normal. Uh. 856 00:49:23,719 --> 00:49:28,200 Speaker 1: The the the stuffing, absolutely you do you do the 857 00:49:28,200 --> 00:49:31,279 Speaker 1: the the yams, or do you do the sweet potatoes yams? Okay, 858 00:49:31,320 --> 00:49:34,560 Speaker 1: you do yams? Now, is there a real difference between 859 00:49:34,640 --> 00:49:36,760 Speaker 1: your yam and anybody else's sweet potato? 860 00:49:38,280 --> 00:49:41,480 Speaker 2: Those are their mine, that's what makes them different. 861 00:49:41,640 --> 00:49:44,600 Speaker 1: So we do sweet potatoes. We also do a carrots 862 00:49:44,600 --> 00:49:46,800 Speaker 1: to fla now that came later in our life. 863 00:49:46,840 --> 00:49:47,680 Speaker 2: So explain the carrots. 864 00:49:48,239 --> 00:49:53,040 Speaker 1: Basically, it's carrots and sugar baked into this like light, 865 00:49:53,280 --> 00:49:55,480 Speaker 1: fluffy deliciousness. It's fantastic. 866 00:49:55,800 --> 00:49:59,040 Speaker 2: It's do you a veg of mixed blender and a 867 00:49:59,080 --> 00:50:02,640 Speaker 2: buoy of like, throw whole bunch of carrots in the 868 00:50:02,680 --> 00:50:04,440 Speaker 2: bowl and you just blend them up with the little 869 00:50:04,480 --> 00:50:06,520 Speaker 2: cream and sugar. I was told it's the Midwest thing. 870 00:50:08,600 --> 00:50:10,840 Speaker 2: To be fair, I don't need carrots. 871 00:50:11,080 --> 00:50:14,080 Speaker 1: True. And then there's mashed potatoes, right, we will do 872 00:50:14,160 --> 00:50:16,560 Speaker 1: that just for the sake of doing mashed potatoes, but 873 00:50:17,120 --> 00:50:21,600 Speaker 1: we actually mash them, boil, mash, butter, the whole thing. 874 00:50:21,680 --> 00:50:23,239 Speaker 2: Yeah, do it, like, oh, that's the only way to go. 875 00:50:23,560 --> 00:50:25,520 Speaker 2: So do you make the gravy the turkey gravy too? 876 00:50:25,680 --> 00:50:28,040 Speaker 1: So when I make a turkey, and to the times 877 00:50:28,120 --> 00:50:30,560 Speaker 1: I make a turkey and I'm doing it in the oven, 878 00:50:31,000 --> 00:50:34,479 Speaker 1: the turkey rests in the turkey pan on a bed 879 00:50:34,480 --> 00:50:37,359 Speaker 1: of onions and there's some other you know, you could 880 00:50:37,360 --> 00:50:39,120 Speaker 1: throw some celery in there or whatever. You get some 881 00:50:39,160 --> 00:50:42,440 Speaker 1: aromatics and water, right, and then the turkey is on 882 00:50:42,520 --> 00:50:44,560 Speaker 1: top of that a little bit, so the onions are 883 00:50:44,560 --> 00:50:46,960 Speaker 1: holding it above the water, a little steaming thing going 884 00:50:46,960 --> 00:50:49,560 Speaker 1: on everything else, and then the turkey has the drippings. 885 00:50:50,160 --> 00:50:53,400 Speaker 1: Our gravy is taking that mixture of the onions and 886 00:50:53,440 --> 00:50:56,200 Speaker 1: if there's some celery in there, the drippings, and then 887 00:50:56,239 --> 00:50:58,040 Speaker 1: putting that in the blender. Zoop. 888 00:50:58,239 --> 00:51:01,640 Speaker 2: That's the gravy. Oh wow, done so for me. The 889 00:51:01,719 --> 00:51:04,759 Speaker 2: key to making good gravy is a lot of times 890 00:51:04,920 --> 00:51:07,400 Speaker 2: it's hard to open the jar. So you take a 891 00:51:07,440 --> 00:51:09,600 Speaker 2: faucet and you turn it on hot and you let 892 00:51:09,600 --> 00:51:11,960 Speaker 2: the hot water go over the little lid on the 893 00:51:12,040 --> 00:51:13,480 Speaker 2: jar and then you open it right up. 894 00:51:13,680 --> 00:51:15,920 Speaker 1: Yeah. No, we do. We do our own when I 895 00:51:16,000 --> 00:51:18,560 Speaker 1: do it. When I do a turkey mac and cheese 896 00:51:18,600 --> 00:51:21,960 Speaker 1: has made it to our table because people do like 897 00:51:22,000 --> 00:51:24,480 Speaker 1: mac and cheese. But we do a baked mac and cheese, 898 00:51:24,880 --> 00:51:27,480 Speaker 1: and we do a multiple cheese mac and cheese. 899 00:51:27,760 --> 00:51:30,680 Speaker 2: Oh what so two three four cheese? 900 00:51:30,920 --> 00:51:34,160 Speaker 1: Believe even this one there's only gonna be three gonna 901 00:51:34,160 --> 00:51:36,680 Speaker 1: be three cheeses? Is this going to be? That's called 902 00:51:36,680 --> 00:51:39,640 Speaker 1: the trace chase a nice that's what they say it 903 00:51:39,640 --> 00:51:42,560 Speaker 1: in the Italian. Speaking of we also do egg plant parmesan. 904 00:51:45,960 --> 00:51:49,560 Speaker 1: My wife's family Italian, they always did egg plant parmesan 905 00:51:49,640 --> 00:51:51,960 Speaker 1: and Thanksgiving. And when I first went to the house 906 00:51:51,960 --> 00:51:56,600 Speaker 1: and there was egging plant parmesan Thanksgiving, I said, genius, Wow, 907 00:51:56,680 --> 00:51:57,879 Speaker 1: why didn't we do this? 908 00:51:58,040 --> 00:52:00,680 Speaker 2: Listen, this is not a criticism that you have egg 909 00:52:00,719 --> 00:52:03,319 Speaker 2: eggplant palm, as the kids like to call it. Right, 910 00:52:03,880 --> 00:52:08,360 Speaker 2: but you you said you have turkey, correct, a brisket, 911 00:52:08,560 --> 00:52:11,760 Speaker 2: correct eggplant palm. 912 00:52:11,560 --> 00:52:13,080 Speaker 1: Egg flamp, parm. 913 00:52:14,360 --> 00:52:20,719 Speaker 2: Ribs no ribs, no, no ribs, could chicken. That's a 914 00:52:20,719 --> 00:52:21,240 Speaker 2: lot of food. 915 00:52:21,320 --> 00:52:25,560 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Oh, come to play, bring on leftovers. You're cool. 916 00:52:26,280 --> 00:52:28,000 Speaker 1: If I'm gonna do all the work, I want to 917 00:52:28,040 --> 00:52:29,760 Speaker 1: do it all and then I want to stop thinking 918 00:52:29,960 --> 00:52:32,160 Speaker 1: for like three days straight. I just want to be 919 00:52:32,200 --> 00:52:35,960 Speaker 1: able to walk into the fridge, literally walk into the fridge. 920 00:52:36,360 --> 00:52:38,560 Speaker 1: I just grab something and be like, that'll be good. 921 00:52:38,800 --> 00:52:41,719 Speaker 2: So the other question, I think that is on everyone's 922 00:52:41,760 --> 00:52:45,520 Speaker 2: mind each drunk smoke nation. Now, remember Tony when he 923 00:52:45,600 --> 00:52:50,279 Speaker 2: travels via airplane. He always wears a suit. When you're 924 00:52:50,320 --> 00:52:55,000 Speaker 2: talking about having seventeen on trace for Thanksgiving, you break 925 00:52:55,040 --> 00:52:56,440 Speaker 2: out the sweatpants right away, right. 926 00:52:56,480 --> 00:52:59,960 Speaker 1: And everyone's in tucks and tails, top hats and monocles. 927 00:53:00,320 --> 00:53:03,000 Speaker 1: Everyone looks like a monopoly man at my house. Uh, 928 00:53:03,680 --> 00:53:05,560 Speaker 1: comfortable pants. I'm not in sweatpants. 929 00:53:06,280 --> 00:53:09,640 Speaker 2: Not in sweats God, no, pajama pants are the pajama pants. 930 00:53:09,640 --> 00:53:11,960 Speaker 1: So when I injured the arm and I tore the 931 00:53:12,000 --> 00:53:15,239 Speaker 1: ten and that connects my bicep to to the arm, 932 00:53:15,640 --> 00:53:18,200 Speaker 1: and I had the surgery and his healing, I couldn't 933 00:53:18,239 --> 00:53:21,279 Speaker 1: actually put on the pants. So I wore joggers for 934 00:53:21,320 --> 00:53:23,440 Speaker 1: the first time in my life and fingers from while. 935 00:53:23,440 --> 00:53:25,919 Speaker 1: I saw me multiple times, and every time he saw 936 00:53:25,960 --> 00:53:27,960 Speaker 1: me the joggers, he'd be like, this is the best day. 937 00:53:28,000 --> 00:53:30,640 Speaker 1: But this makes me so happy. 938 00:53:31,000 --> 00:53:35,520 Speaker 2: I have to tell you all, I'm shocked, shocked that 939 00:53:35,640 --> 00:53:39,040 Speaker 2: he's making the jogger information public. 940 00:53:39,239 --> 00:53:41,040 Speaker 1: Oh, that I would let people know that happens. 941 00:53:41,040 --> 00:53:44,280 Speaker 2: Oh, I'm I'm very surprised that this information. 942 00:53:44,360 --> 00:53:45,560 Speaker 1: Am I wearing slacks right now? 943 00:53:45,600 --> 00:53:47,920 Speaker 2: You're wearing sensible slacks? Yeah? 944 00:53:48,000 --> 00:53:50,759 Speaker 1: I do what I do. I have no capacity to 945 00:53:50,800 --> 00:53:54,040 Speaker 1: do those other things. So no, I will. I will 946 00:53:54,080 --> 00:53:57,240 Speaker 1: be wearing pants and a button down shirt. 947 00:53:57,360 --> 00:53:59,880 Speaker 2: Oh but you're you're entertaining more than family. 948 00:54:00,520 --> 00:54:00,719 Speaker 1: Yeah? 949 00:54:00,840 --> 00:54:04,719 Speaker 2: Oh friends, Yeah sure, so it's just family. So it's 950 00:54:04,800 --> 00:54:06,279 Speaker 2: pajama pants all day, is it? 951 00:54:06,400 --> 00:54:07,200 Speaker 1: Oh? Yeah? 952 00:54:07,560 --> 00:54:11,520 Speaker 2: And uh, mucklucks, God, mucklucks. 953 00:54:11,920 --> 00:54:14,640 Speaker 1: You're a heathen, you know what. 954 00:54:15,200 --> 00:54:18,080 Speaker 2: I work one hundred and forty four hours a week. 955 00:54:18,280 --> 00:54:21,640 Speaker 2: Can I take one day to wear pajama pants and 956 00:54:21,719 --> 00:54:23,359 Speaker 2: mucklucks and my tank top? 957 00:54:23,480 --> 00:54:28,479 Speaker 1: Respect yourself, Respect yourself. But we didn't answer the question. 958 00:54:28,520 --> 00:54:29,960 Speaker 1: The green bean castle is something you do. 959 00:54:30,760 --> 00:54:33,319 Speaker 2: I'm not a huge fan, yeah, but I'm fine with it. 960 00:54:33,400 --> 00:54:36,319 Speaker 2: And then you know, some people like the green bean 961 00:54:36,400 --> 00:54:40,839 Speaker 2: castrole without the little the dried up French onions on top. 962 00:54:40,960 --> 00:54:44,600 Speaker 2: You know what I'm talking about, right, Others they love it. 963 00:54:44,640 --> 00:54:47,160 Speaker 2: You got to actually have the ladle it on the top. 964 00:54:47,480 --> 00:54:49,920 Speaker 2: I would ask you how you like it, but you 965 00:54:49,920 --> 00:54:52,640 Speaker 2: don't do green bean castrole, so there's no sense in 966 00:54:52,680 --> 00:54:53,319 Speaker 2: asking you that question. 967 00:54:53,520 --> 00:54:55,680 Speaker 1: My youngest asked for green bean castrole, and I said, 968 00:54:55,680 --> 00:54:57,839 Speaker 1: if you want to make it, go ahead, And that 969 00:54:57,960 --> 00:55:01,480 Speaker 1: ended the conversation about the green bean cast role. Now 970 00:55:02,640 --> 00:55:05,040 Speaker 1: you've had it though, I would rather have broccoli, rob. 971 00:55:06,400 --> 00:55:07,200 Speaker 2: Broccoli Rob? 972 00:55:07,239 --> 00:55:11,000 Speaker 1: What goes with the eggplant? It's like a bitter broccoli 973 00:55:11,040 --> 00:55:12,040 Speaker 1: and garlic and oil? 974 00:55:12,280 --> 00:55:13,160 Speaker 2: Just making stuff up? 975 00:55:13,200 --> 00:55:13,439 Speaker 1: Now? 976 00:55:13,760 --> 00:55:17,000 Speaker 2: What what about a broccoli gym you? 977 00:55:17,800 --> 00:55:20,120 Speaker 1: Oh? I see what he did there? See what he did? 978 00:55:25,160 --> 00:55:28,280 Speaker 1: Eat drink smoke. It is your cigar bourbon footy extravaganza. 979 00:55:28,320 --> 00:55:31,759 Speaker 1: I'm Tony Katz. That is fingers molloy. I forgot to 980 00:55:31,800 --> 00:55:34,919 Speaker 1: give myself a cube for the for the gym Beam 981 00:55:34,960 --> 00:55:37,880 Speaker 1: Winter Reserve. I gotta get myself a cube. What do 982 00:55:37,920 --> 00:55:39,480 Speaker 1: I just want to add some water where you where's 983 00:55:39,480 --> 00:55:41,200 Speaker 1: your water? By the way, I took a sip out 984 00:55:41,239 --> 00:55:42,920 Speaker 1: of the bottle? You gonna I know, I'm not gonna 985 00:55:42,960 --> 00:55:47,320 Speaker 1: touch it now. My gosh. We are drinking the gym 986 00:55:47,320 --> 00:55:51,400 Speaker 1: Beam Winter Reserve eighty six proof with the notes of 987 00:55:51,480 --> 00:55:58,080 Speaker 1: vanilla and cinnamon. A nice, nice possibility for your Thanksgiving table. 988 00:55:58,520 --> 00:56:03,359 Speaker 1: But there's this isn't my flavor profile. There's a bunch 989 00:56:03,480 --> 00:56:07,160 Speaker 1: going on here. There's definitely a sweetness that's happening with 990 00:56:07,160 --> 00:56:10,960 Speaker 1: with with the Jimmy Beam, Uh for sure. Uh. But 991 00:56:11,120 --> 00:56:15,640 Speaker 1: it's it's what's the word I'm looking for? It's kind 992 00:56:15,680 --> 00:56:19,880 Speaker 1: of overwhelming in the herbal and so the the idea 993 00:56:19,880 --> 00:56:23,279 Speaker 1: of vanilla and cinnamon in these warm kind of winter flavors, 994 00:56:23,960 --> 00:56:27,680 Speaker 1: for me, it's there, there's a there's a turnoff taking place, 995 00:56:27,719 --> 00:56:29,560 Speaker 1: and maybe I'll feel differently when it's on a cube. 996 00:56:29,760 --> 00:56:33,800 Speaker 2: So I'm going back in the memory bank. And didn't 997 00:56:33,840 --> 00:56:37,400 Speaker 2: we do a clovish kind of whiskey? Was it rattle 998 00:56:37,480 --> 00:56:39,040 Speaker 2: and snap that? 999 00:56:39,080 --> 00:56:40,359 Speaker 1: Well? We did rattle snap. 1000 00:56:40,520 --> 00:56:44,240 Speaker 2: Sure there was something that was that had a strong 1001 00:56:44,840 --> 00:56:50,880 Speaker 2: clove profile to it. Uh, that is something that you're 1002 00:56:50,920 --> 00:56:52,640 Speaker 2: telling me in college you didn't smoke clothes. 1003 00:56:52,800 --> 00:56:57,680 Speaker 1: God, no, it's a grown man a kind of crazy thing. 1004 00:56:57,800 --> 00:56:58,240 Speaker 1: Is that? 1005 00:56:58,680 --> 00:57:02,000 Speaker 2: So the flavor profile is not as what the kids 1006 00:57:02,040 --> 00:57:03,120 Speaker 2: would say your jam. 1007 00:57:03,640 --> 00:57:07,600 Speaker 1: Well, first of all, no kid would say that anymore. No, no, no, kid, 1008 00:57:07,800 --> 00:57:10,480 Speaker 1: No it's not. It's so it's here. If I go 1009 00:57:10,520 --> 00:57:12,200 Speaker 1: back in and I'm doing it neat right. 1010 00:57:12,120 --> 00:57:16,080 Speaker 2: Now, Yeah, he's going back in ladies and gentlemen, and uh, 1011 00:57:16,160 --> 00:57:17,440 Speaker 2: he's never smoked clothes. 1012 00:57:19,120 --> 00:57:26,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's this. It's the it's to the extent that 1013 00:57:26,640 --> 00:57:30,440 Speaker 1: it's medicinal. I mean, that's that's wrong. That's the wrong 1014 00:57:30,480 --> 00:57:36,520 Speaker 1: way to put it. It's do you feel like you're 1015 00:57:36,520 --> 00:57:41,120 Speaker 1: having an herbal te. No, not that there's a touch 1016 00:57:41,160 --> 00:57:45,240 Speaker 1: of char. There is this this. If you want to 1017 00:57:45,320 --> 00:57:49,920 Speaker 1: argue that that's baking spice, it's not. It's not really 1018 00:57:50,000 --> 00:57:52,800 Speaker 1: doing it on on the more luscious side. It's doing 1019 00:57:52,800 --> 00:57:56,080 Speaker 1: it more on the pungent side. And so what that's 1020 00:57:56,080 --> 00:57:58,760 Speaker 1: doing on the tongue and the flavors that I'm getting 1021 00:57:59,440 --> 00:58:02,520 Speaker 1: gives me an an overall bitter. Now, I'm here to 1022 00:58:02,560 --> 00:58:05,160 Speaker 1: say that some people really dig this kind of flavor, 1023 00:58:05,760 --> 00:58:07,720 Speaker 1: really dig it. Fingers seems to enjoy this more. But 1024 00:58:07,760 --> 00:58:09,720 Speaker 1: he's getting more of vanilla out of it. Now I'm 1025 00:58:09,720 --> 00:58:10,880 Speaker 1: getting no vanilla out of it. 1026 00:58:10,880 --> 00:58:13,640 Speaker 2: What's so I'm gonna go back in because it's been 1027 00:58:13,760 --> 00:58:14,840 Speaker 2: several minutes. 1028 00:58:14,640 --> 00:58:16,480 Speaker 1: And you put did you put water in there? You 1029 00:58:16,480 --> 00:58:18,600 Speaker 1: did put a little water in there, so water will 1030 00:58:18,600 --> 00:58:20,919 Speaker 1: bring down proof. This is eighty six proof, so it's 1031 00:58:20,960 --> 00:58:24,800 Speaker 1: not necessarily high. And then water will open it up. Right. 1032 00:58:24,840 --> 00:58:27,120 Speaker 1: Some flavors more pronounced, some more muted. You want to 1033 00:58:27,120 --> 00:58:28,439 Speaker 1: try it that way with a little bit of water, 1034 00:58:28,480 --> 00:58:30,760 Speaker 1: get a dropper, just pour a little bit in, Try 1035 00:58:30,800 --> 00:58:33,120 Speaker 1: it on a cube. You gotta find which way is 1036 00:58:33,160 --> 00:58:35,640 Speaker 1: the right expression for you. There's no wrong way to 1037 00:58:35,680 --> 00:58:37,720 Speaker 1: do this. Oh, you can put it on the rocks. 1038 00:58:37,720 --> 00:58:39,720 Speaker 1: You gotta have it. Neat, that's a load of crap. 1039 00:58:39,880 --> 00:58:41,560 Speaker 1: You have it anyway you want. You bought the. 1040 00:58:41,480 --> 00:58:44,760 Speaker 2: Bottle, so it brought out a little bit more of 1041 00:58:44,800 --> 00:58:48,640 Speaker 2: that spice. And what's odd is, like you said, it's 1042 00:58:48,640 --> 00:58:51,000 Speaker 2: not a baking spice. You know, you know, some people 1043 00:58:51,040 --> 00:58:53,040 Speaker 2: referred to it as a cinnamon spice. It's like a 1044 00:58:53,040 --> 00:58:58,440 Speaker 2: clove spice. It's it's very it's very strange. It's not 1045 00:58:58,760 --> 00:58:59,960 Speaker 2: for me. It's not off putting. 1046 00:59:01,760 --> 00:59:01,800 Speaker 1: It. 1047 00:59:03,280 --> 00:59:06,360 Speaker 2: There's that hint of vanilla. There's a hint of oak. 1048 00:59:07,920 --> 00:59:08,280 Speaker 1: To me. 1049 00:59:10,000 --> 00:59:13,440 Speaker 2: The only thing, if you're gonna say, there's a note 1050 00:59:13,480 --> 00:59:17,720 Speaker 2: that really stands out, it's that spice. Other than that, 1051 00:59:17,840 --> 00:59:21,320 Speaker 2: everything else is kind of muted. It's like, okay, here's 1052 00:59:21,320 --> 00:59:26,040 Speaker 2: a hint of vanilla, here's a hint of oak. I 1053 00:59:27,720 --> 00:59:30,600 Speaker 2: it's not my flavor profile either. I don't hate it. 1054 00:59:30,680 --> 00:59:34,240 Speaker 2: Someone brings it up to the Thanksgiving Day table, I would. 1055 00:59:34,360 --> 00:59:37,360 Speaker 2: I would enjoy it neat. But I don't know. If 1056 00:59:37,400 --> 00:59:39,840 Speaker 2: I were going to the liquor store and saw this 1057 00:59:39,880 --> 00:59:41,160 Speaker 2: bottle again, I'd reach for it. 1058 00:59:41,240 --> 00:59:45,640 Speaker 1: Now this is where it gets very interesting. When Fingers 1059 00:59:45,680 --> 00:59:52,360 Speaker 1: Maloy got this bottle the Gimbeam Winter Reserve, he paid 1060 00:59:52,400 --> 00:59:59,000 Speaker 1: a price. Fingers malloy, how much was this bottle of 1061 00:59:59,200 --> 00:59:59,920 Speaker 1: jim Beam went to? 1062 01:00:00,480 --> 01:00:02,959 Speaker 2: I just grabbed it, thinking, oh it's jim Beam. Won't 1063 01:00:02,960 --> 01:00:07,280 Speaker 2: be all that expensive. Fifty eight dollars and ninety nine cents. 1064 01:00:07,160 --> 01:00:09,880 Speaker 1: Fingers will I When you looked up the price later 1065 01:00:10,520 --> 01:00:13,040 Speaker 1: of the gym Beam Winter Reserve, what did you find 1066 01:00:13,080 --> 01:00:13,240 Speaker 1: was the. 1067 01:00:13,320 --> 01:00:18,280 Speaker 2: MSRP anywhere from twenty seven ninety nine to twenty nine 1068 01:00:18,400 --> 01:00:19,360 Speaker 2: ninety nine a bottle? 1069 01:00:19,720 --> 01:00:23,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, something got mispriced for you. Yeah, you do have 1070 01:00:23,160 --> 01:00:25,520 Speaker 1: to take that back and be like, what is this? Yeah? 1071 01:00:25,560 --> 01:00:29,800 Speaker 1: You paid double? You paid double for it. You didn't 1072 01:00:29,840 --> 01:00:32,000 Speaker 1: have two bottles? Did they charge you for two bottles? 1073 01:00:32,280 --> 01:00:32,440 Speaker 2: No? 1074 01:00:32,960 --> 01:00:38,320 Speaker 1: Okay, then you you gotta you gotta, you gotta say so. 1075 01:00:38,440 --> 01:00:41,200 Speaker 2: I would feel better about it if it were a 1076 01:00:41,240 --> 01:00:44,880 Speaker 2: bottle that I really liked, But I don't even know 1077 01:00:46,000 --> 01:00:48,800 Speaker 2: at twenty seven ninety nine if I would buy a 1078 01:00:48,840 --> 01:00:49,360 Speaker 2: bottle of them. 1079 01:00:49,480 --> 01:00:52,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm not one hundred percent sure this is in 1080 01:00:52,760 --> 01:00:56,320 Speaker 1: my liquor cabin. I think this is a very very 1081 01:00:56,360 --> 01:01:02,840 Speaker 1: specific and specialized kind of kind of flavor. Now, all 1082 01:01:02,920 --> 01:01:06,120 Speaker 1: that said, what the hell do we know? You gotta 1083 01:01:06,120 --> 01:01:09,640 Speaker 1: be the ones who decide for you. There's just there, 1084 01:01:09,680 --> 01:01:14,840 Speaker 1: there's not enough of the classic flavors that I'm going for. 1085 01:01:15,000 --> 01:01:16,959 Speaker 1: But it's very obvious that they weren't trying to create 1086 01:01:17,000 --> 01:01:19,800 Speaker 1: something with classic flavors. This is also six year aged. 1087 01:01:20,000 --> 01:01:22,120 Speaker 1: There's some there's a little bit of effort that went 1088 01:01:22,240 --> 01:01:25,840 Speaker 1: going on into this. It just it doesn't match up 1089 01:01:25,880 --> 01:01:28,920 Speaker 1: and certainly doesn't match up for me for the holidays. 1090 01:01:29,000 --> 01:01:32,120 Speaker 1: As for this cigar, this is the Rocky Pattel thirtieth, 1091 01:01:32,480 --> 01:01:37,840 Speaker 1: the San Andreas Rapper, the double binder, Nicaraguan seven years age, 1092 01:01:38,200 --> 01:01:42,280 Speaker 1: the fillers from Honduras and Nicaragua five year age into 1093 01:01:42,320 --> 01:01:45,360 Speaker 1: the second third of this box press, which I got 1094 01:01:45,400 --> 01:01:50,160 Speaker 1: to admit, it's a it's beautiful. The deep deep brown 1095 01:01:50,640 --> 01:01:53,080 Speaker 1: in this. You know, I may have played as much, 1096 01:01:53,280 --> 01:01:55,520 Speaker 1: much darker earlier, but it is. It is a very 1097 01:01:55,600 --> 01:01:59,320 Speaker 1: dark wrapper, but it really dark brown with little streakings 1098 01:01:59,560 --> 01:02:04,600 Speaker 1: of black. The box press is great. The draw is excellent, Rocky. 1099 01:02:04,960 --> 01:02:09,400 Speaker 1: The draw is excellent on this cigar. And at seventeen 1100 01:02:09,520 --> 01:02:16,560 Speaker 1: dollars and fifty cents, I'm a maybe and I'm enjoying 1101 01:02:16,560 --> 01:02:21,640 Speaker 1: what's happening here, tobacco forward, a touch of wood to 1102 01:02:21,680 --> 01:02:26,080 Speaker 1: give it that spice, a touch for me of cocoa. Yeah, sure, 1103 01:02:26,520 --> 01:02:27,720 Speaker 1: I like those things. 1104 01:02:28,240 --> 01:02:31,960 Speaker 2: Yet if it was fourteen dollars, that's what I was 1105 01:02:32,000 --> 01:02:35,919 Speaker 2: just about to say, fourteen fifteen dollars. And once again 1106 01:02:36,080 --> 01:02:39,960 Speaker 2: is it We're just so we've got twenty nineteen thinking 1107 01:02:40,080 --> 01:02:44,080 Speaker 2: going on, and you know, things have changed and prices 1108 01:02:44,120 --> 01:02:47,840 Speaker 2: have gone up. Everywhere is fourteen fifteen dollars, you know, 1109 01:02:49,040 --> 01:02:51,600 Speaker 2: is seventeen fifty the new fifteen dollars And we got 1110 01:02:51,600 --> 01:02:52,840 Speaker 2: to start rethinking this stuff. 1111 01:02:53,080 --> 01:02:54,760 Speaker 1: Well we've been through this and the answer is yeah, 1112 01:02:54,840 --> 01:02:58,280 Speaker 1: so understand that it's us saying, man, we wish it 1113 01:02:58,440 --> 01:03:02,200 Speaker 1: was what it could have been in the new world. 1114 01:03:02,320 --> 01:03:05,040 Speaker 1: You have to rethink it. So this is a value 1115 01:03:05,080 --> 01:03:10,240 Speaker 1: conversation and it's not a bad stick. I think this 1116 01:03:10,320 --> 01:03:13,720 Speaker 1: is a good presentation. You know, they, as I said, 1117 01:03:14,840 --> 01:03:18,600 Speaker 1: as I started, Man, Rocky Bottel does a lot of stuff. 1118 01:03:19,360 --> 01:03:22,360 Speaker 1: They have a lot of sticks on the shelf, a 1119 01:03:22,400 --> 01:03:27,720 Speaker 1: whole different, a whole a panoply of styles and and 1120 01:03:27,720 --> 01:03:34,479 Speaker 1: and brands. To me, not everything's a banger. I think 1121 01:03:34,600 --> 01:03:38,520 Speaker 1: this plays well. You know the sixty that they did 1122 01:03:38,640 --> 01:03:41,320 Speaker 1: ranked very very highly. I think with Sagarffieshinanos some others. 1123 01:03:41,560 --> 01:03:44,720 Speaker 1: I would rather smoke this. I would rather smoke this 1124 01:03:44,840 --> 01:03:50,240 Speaker 1: than the sixty. But it's I think that this is 1125 01:03:50,320 --> 01:03:54,720 Speaker 1: to write off the memory. This is a more enjoyable 1126 01:03:54,720 --> 01:04:00,480 Speaker 1: stick than the quarter century. It's just seventeen dollars. I'm 1127 01:04:00,560 --> 01:04:03,280 Speaker 1: push right, I'm a made. 1128 01:04:03,280 --> 01:04:07,240 Speaker 2: But I also feel like if you are going, you know, 1129 01:04:07,800 --> 01:04:10,720 Speaker 2: to the golf course, and you know you want something 1130 01:04:10,760 --> 01:04:13,000 Speaker 2: after the golf course, and you're bringing some sticks for 1131 01:04:13,080 --> 01:04:16,360 Speaker 2: your friends, they see you're bringing them a rocky, the 1132 01:04:16,440 --> 01:04:21,800 Speaker 2: presentation and everything, this flavor profile, I think everyone would 1133 01:04:21,920 --> 01:04:23,840 Speaker 2: leave smoking pretty happy with it. 1134 01:04:24,240 --> 01:04:27,280 Speaker 1: Oh oh, I agree, oh that much. I agree. You 1135 01:04:27,280 --> 01:04:29,480 Speaker 1: wouldn't smoke this and be like, well that was a waste. 1136 01:04:29,680 --> 01:04:35,160 Speaker 1: You would smoke this and say seventeen hmm like that. 1137 01:04:35,160 --> 01:04:37,120 Speaker 1: That's I think that's a better way to put it. 1138 01:04:37,480 --> 01:04:40,400 Speaker 1: I think you're accurate. There, No, No, I wouldn't. I 1139 01:04:40,400 --> 01:04:42,960 Speaker 1: wouldn't be disappointed. Someone hands it to me, I'll say 1140 01:04:43,000 --> 01:04:45,440 Speaker 1: thank you, and I would. I would take this over 1141 01:04:45,440 --> 01:04:48,280 Speaker 1: the quarter century, and I would take this over a 1142 01:04:48,320 --> 01:04:52,080 Speaker 1: bunch of things that they do. There's a nice presentation here, 1143 01:04:52,680 --> 01:04:57,400 Speaker 1: just man, I wish it was I wish it was fourteen. 1144 01:04:58,440 --> 01:05:07,400 Speaker 1: That's as much as I could get fingers Maloy. 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I actually got a direct message on 1172 01:06:46,600 --> 01:06:52,840 Speaker 2: my x handle at Fingers Moloy from Andrew B. And 1173 01:06:52,840 --> 01:06:55,880 Speaker 2: Andrew says, fingers huge fan of Eat Drink Smoke. Have 1174 01:06:55,960 --> 01:06:59,440 Speaker 2: been following you guys since you started Always Enjoy It. 1175 01:06:59,600 --> 01:07:02,720 Speaker 2: Couple questions a coup of questions. Have you done a 1176 01:07:02,760 --> 01:07:10,360 Speaker 2: review of The Late Hour by David Offmmm? So the 1177 01:07:10,400 --> 01:07:13,600 Speaker 2: answer is yes, Episode one and five. 1178 01:07:13,840 --> 01:07:15,880 Speaker 1: Oh, you went back and checked, went back. 1179 01:07:15,640 --> 01:07:19,200 Speaker 2: And checked, going way back to twenty twenty, and it 1180 01:07:19,200 --> 01:07:21,560 Speaker 2: it crossed my mind. I believe it was late twenty twenty. 1181 01:07:22,840 --> 01:07:25,800 Speaker 2: Were we nationally syndicated back then? In late twenty twenty? 1182 01:07:25,840 --> 01:07:31,280 Speaker 2: When did we become syndicated? We came last week, last week. Yeah, 1183 01:07:31,320 --> 01:07:36,760 Speaker 2: so that's that's that. It's it's it. 1184 01:07:36,760 --> 01:07:38,480 Speaker 1: Was not at the time we were syndicated. It was 1185 01:07:38,480 --> 01:07:40,400 Speaker 1: when it was first just the podcast, which is how 1186 01:07:40,400 --> 01:07:44,520 Speaker 1: the show originally started as just a podcast. The Late 1187 01:07:44,560 --> 01:07:46,960 Speaker 1: Hour is one of my all time favorites. The Late 1188 01:07:47,000 --> 01:07:54,240 Speaker 1: Hour is fantastic, fantastic cigar leathery, coocoey, really a delicious, 1189 01:07:54,280 --> 01:07:58,720 Speaker 1: delicious smoke, named after, of course, Winston Churchill. The Late 1190 01:07:58,760 --> 01:08:03,680 Speaker 1: Hour the idea of the impending war and the attack 1191 01:08:04,320 --> 01:08:09,040 Speaker 1: from the Nazis. It's it's still to this day, a 1192 01:08:09,080 --> 01:08:15,320 Speaker 1: stupendous smoke, and one one one worthy of the price tag. 1193 01:08:15,400 --> 01:08:16,880 Speaker 2: I was gonna say, if I remember it, that was 1194 01:08:16,880 --> 01:08:18,000 Speaker 2: over one hundred dollars a stake. 1195 01:08:18,080 --> 01:08:20,439 Speaker 1: No no, no, no, not that one. Not not not that one. 1196 01:08:20,680 --> 01:08:24,800 Speaker 1: You're you're getting into some of the salomons there over 1197 01:08:24,760 --> 01:08:27,800 Speaker 1: one hundred dollars. The Royal releases right now would be 1198 01:08:27,800 --> 01:08:31,840 Speaker 1: over one hundred dollars. Uh. The Oral Blanco is five hundred, 1199 01:08:31,920 --> 01:08:34,599 Speaker 1: five hundred and fifty dollars for that cigar. It's an 1200 01:08:34,600 --> 01:08:37,040 Speaker 1: insane smoke. Do not eat that. Do not smoke that 1201 01:08:37,080 --> 01:08:39,640 Speaker 1: on an empty stomach. You'll regret every part of your 1202 01:08:39,680 --> 01:08:43,080 Speaker 1: life if you do that. I'd say, right now, between 1203 01:08:43,120 --> 01:08:46,719 Speaker 1: twenty five and thirty five bucks, depending on size, betweening 1204 01:08:46,720 --> 01:08:49,360 Speaker 1: on depending on the vetola. The I t o l A. 1205 01:08:50,160 --> 01:08:52,080 Speaker 1: But I can't. I can't say enough good things about it. 1206 01:08:52,120 --> 01:08:55,160 Speaker 1: I can't say enough good things about that cigar. Still 1207 01:08:55,920 --> 01:08:57,200 Speaker 1: very very enjoyable smoke. 1208 01:08:57,360 --> 01:08:59,720 Speaker 2: So episode one oh five back in twenty twenty, if 1209 01:08:59,760 --> 01:09:03,519 Speaker 2: you want to visit that episode, it's maybe fun to 1210 01:09:03,520 --> 01:09:05,600 Speaker 2: go back and listen and see how much different the 1211 01:09:05,600 --> 01:09:07,519 Speaker 2: show was back then than it is today now that 1212 01:09:07,560 --> 01:09:10,240 Speaker 2: we're doing kind of more of a radio formatted show. 1213 01:09:10,320 --> 01:09:12,320 Speaker 2: Back then it's a stream of consciousness. 1214 01:09:12,560 --> 01:09:13,880 Speaker 1: There's a whole question whether we should be doing a 1215 01:09:13,960 --> 01:09:16,960 Speaker 1: radio formatted show. Everybody's a podcaster now, so just go 1216 01:09:17,080 --> 01:09:19,599 Speaker 1: do that even though we're on radio. Right that's there's 1217 01:09:19,640 --> 01:09:23,080 Speaker 1: that Eat Drink Smoke show, not eatrink Show, EA Drink Smoke. 1218 01:09:23,080 --> 01:09:24,680 Speaker 1: Wherever it is you get your podcasts, just look for 1219 01:09:24,720 --> 01:09:25,920 Speaker 1: Eatrink Smoke and get it there. 1220 01:09:26,000 --> 01:09:30,000 Speaker 2: So the second question, and we've talked about this website before, 1221 01:09:30,080 --> 01:09:33,120 Speaker 2: but it's been a long time, he said. Andrew also asked, 1222 01:09:33,400 --> 01:09:36,840 Speaker 2: do you guys ever use cigar bid. My closest cigar 1223 01:09:36,960 --> 01:09:41,120 Speaker 2: shop with a true humidor is probably over an hour away. 1224 01:09:41,240 --> 01:09:43,960 Speaker 2: I've had great luck with it. Have you guys used 1225 01:09:43,960 --> 01:09:44,479 Speaker 2: it as well? 1226 01:09:45,439 --> 01:09:52,000 Speaker 1: I'm gonna give you a very very legal esque answer, 1227 01:09:53,080 --> 01:09:59,040 Speaker 1: and the answer is, if we utilize any online service, 1228 01:09:59,800 --> 01:10:04,240 Speaker 1: we I would never I would never want to disparage 1229 01:10:04,280 --> 01:10:07,519 Speaker 1: what anybody does. I'm not about to disparage what cigar 1230 01:10:07,560 --> 01:10:10,719 Speaker 1: bid does. I've seen people have success, I've seen people 1231 01:10:10,840 --> 01:10:14,719 Speaker 1: not have success. Does it work? Does it not work? 1232 01:10:14,880 --> 01:10:18,280 Speaker 1: I don't know. I can't answer the question. What I 1233 01:10:18,320 --> 01:10:20,120 Speaker 1: know is I know enough people who've done it. Hey, 1234 01:10:20,160 --> 01:10:24,040 Speaker 1: I got this thing. I okay, fine, good, But we 1235 01:10:24,080 --> 01:10:27,120 Speaker 1: don't work with them. It's not that we work with 1236 01:10:27,200 --> 01:10:31,000 Speaker 1: any other online a cigar group. There are some that 1237 01:10:31,000 --> 01:10:32,479 Speaker 1: I like because I just think they do a nice 1238 01:10:32,560 --> 01:10:36,120 Speaker 1: job with the website. I would never tell you not 1239 01:10:36,200 --> 01:10:38,320 Speaker 1: to use them. I would never say no, no, no, 1240 01:10:38,360 --> 01:10:41,200 Speaker 1: you can't use cigar bid, because here's what they're really doing. No, 1241 01:10:42,040 --> 01:10:44,000 Speaker 1: I've had I have friends who have used them and 1242 01:10:44,040 --> 01:10:47,400 Speaker 1: have had great result, and that's where I leave it. 1243 01:10:47,720 --> 01:10:50,680 Speaker 1: So I don't want to avoid the question. It's that 1244 01:10:51,000 --> 01:10:54,320 Speaker 1: you know partially it's I haven't dug deep into it, 1245 01:10:54,360 --> 01:10:56,200 Speaker 1: I haven't played with it. I don't think I've ever 1246 01:10:56,240 --> 01:10:59,880 Speaker 1: actually ordered from it or gone through that whole bidding process. 1247 01:11:00,240 --> 01:11:02,519 Speaker 1: There's a question all those kinds of sites, whether or 1248 01:11:02,560 --> 01:11:05,720 Speaker 1: not that process actually works, and how you feel it's 1249 01:11:05,760 --> 01:11:08,240 Speaker 1: set up, and do you feel it's it's all you know, 1250 01:11:08,479 --> 01:11:12,360 Speaker 1: properly done. I'm just not the guy I think I 1251 01:11:12,400 --> 01:11:14,000 Speaker 1: think to answer that well, but I don't want to 1252 01:11:14,000 --> 01:11:15,519 Speaker 1: also ignore the question because I. 1253 01:11:15,439 --> 01:11:18,400 Speaker 2: Thought that was just rude. I will say, if you 1254 01:11:18,439 --> 01:11:21,320 Speaker 2: go to the site, it's a fun set up. They 1255 01:11:21,320 --> 01:11:24,000 Speaker 2: have different ways for you to purchase cigars bit on Cigars, 1256 01:11:24,320 --> 01:11:27,400 Speaker 2: But like Tony said, I've never actually used it. 1257 01:11:27,439 --> 01:11:30,040 Speaker 1: So if you have, would you let us know email 1258 01:11:30,080 --> 01:11:32,519 Speaker 1: fingers at eatringsmokeshow dot com or or put it on 1259 01:11:32,520 --> 01:11:34,840 Speaker 1: the etrink smoke show dot com site. Let us know 1260 01:11:35,160 --> 01:11:37,599 Speaker 1: have you used cigar bit What is it that that 1261 01:11:37,640 --> 01:11:40,880 Speaker 1: you get from them? Uh? Part of it is if 1262 01:11:40,880 --> 01:11:42,479 Speaker 1: I want something, I want something, and I don't know 1263 01:11:42,520 --> 01:11:44,720 Speaker 1: if I want to gamify it. I want what I 1264 01:11:44,760 --> 01:11:47,800 Speaker 1: want just just that easy, you know. But I have 1265 01:11:48,000 --> 01:11:50,479 Speaker 1: ordered on from online people before, and some things I 1266 01:11:50,479 --> 01:11:53,400 Speaker 1: think have been solid. In some things, uh not as much. 1267 01:11:53,439 --> 01:11:56,120 Speaker 1: But I mean that's just that's just life right there. 1268 01:11:56,520 --> 01:12:00,840 Speaker 1: Next next, you said, we're gonna go to News of 1269 01:12:00,880 --> 01:12:03,320 Speaker 1: the week, so let's go ahead. Oh so we're done 1270 01:12:03,320 --> 01:12:05,720 Speaker 1: with questions. Yes, we have no more questions. 1271 01:12:05,680 --> 01:12:06,240 Speaker 2: Not right now. 1272 01:12:06,320 --> 01:12:10,519 Speaker 1: No, Okay, that was it. That was it, Listener of Questions. 1273 01:12:10,560 --> 01:12:13,519 Speaker 1: Brought to you by defiancebeef dot Com. Use promo code, 1274 01:12:13,560 --> 01:12:15,680 Speaker 1: eat drink smoke, get one hundred and fifty dollars off 1275 01:12:15,720 --> 01:12:19,080 Speaker 1: your order. Defiancebef dot com News are the weak fingers boy. 1276 01:12:19,280 --> 01:12:22,000 Speaker 1: So this is fantastic. It's just now available. This is 1277 01:12:22,000 --> 01:12:22,840 Speaker 1: fantastic news. 1278 01:12:22,840 --> 01:12:28,320 Speaker 2: Tony McDonald's has brought back a fan favorite, according to 1279 01:12:28,600 --> 01:12:32,879 Speaker 2: People magazine, the Holiday Pie. It's a custard bill pie 1280 01:12:32,960 --> 01:12:36,000 Speaker 2: Tony with a flaky crust. It is now back for 1281 01:12:36,040 --> 01:12:41,760 Speaker 2: the holiday season. It too like our Oreo cookies has sprinkles. 1282 01:12:43,640 --> 01:12:47,280 Speaker 1: First things first, we're bring anything, We're gonna bring back anything. 1283 01:12:47,439 --> 01:12:49,519 Speaker 1: It should always be the McRib and I know what 1284 01:12:49,560 --> 01:12:50,439 Speaker 1: you're saying it. 1285 01:12:52,000 --> 01:12:57,920 Speaker 2: What listen, the McDonald's said, I I've only been to 1286 01:12:58,120 --> 01:13:02,200 Speaker 2: once Winky Winky. They had it on their menu the 1287 01:13:02,200 --> 01:13:04,240 Speaker 2: other day, so I didn't order it. 1288 01:13:04,320 --> 01:13:07,400 Speaker 1: I didn't play the game. What did fingers eat today? 1289 01:13:07,479 --> 01:13:08,040 Speaker 2: It's bad? 1290 01:13:08,360 --> 01:13:11,200 Speaker 1: Why is it what? I went? 1291 01:13:11,320 --> 01:13:12,320 Speaker 2: Bending machine? Crazy? 1292 01:13:13,160 --> 01:13:14,559 Speaker 1: God? Are you okay? 1293 01:13:14,680 --> 01:13:16,360 Speaker 2: I'm fine? I feel like one hundred dollars? 1294 01:13:16,439 --> 01:13:18,000 Speaker 1: Is this the last time I'm ever going to see you? 1295 01:13:18,040 --> 01:13:20,160 Speaker 2: No? I don't know. 1296 01:13:20,960 --> 01:13:24,840 Speaker 1: Maybe it could be the McRib is back. 1297 01:13:25,800 --> 01:13:29,240 Speaker 2: Listen. I don't want everybody rush into their McDonald's looking 1298 01:13:29,240 --> 01:13:31,000 Speaker 2: for McRib. All I know is I open up the 1299 01:13:31,040 --> 01:13:34,200 Speaker 2: app the other day and McRib sandwich was right on 1300 01:13:34,280 --> 01:13:34,960 Speaker 2: the menu. 1301 01:13:35,439 --> 01:13:38,280 Speaker 1: Really, yes, And I'm fully aware we don't know what 1302 01:13:38,360 --> 01:13:39,920 Speaker 1: kind of meat it is. I don't care. 1303 01:13:40,520 --> 01:13:47,040 Speaker 2: What are you talking about? It's a McRib. Let me 1304 01:13:47,080 --> 01:13:49,400 Speaker 2: open the app right now because I know I've got 1305 01:13:49,439 --> 01:13:51,160 Speaker 2: You know, there are fanatics? 1306 01:13:51,920 --> 01:13:52,519 Speaker 1: Are you kidding? 1307 01:13:52,680 --> 01:13:54,080 Speaker 2: When it comes to the McRib And. 1308 01:13:54,040 --> 01:13:56,080 Speaker 1: Now I don't have to make anything for Thanksgiving? I 1309 01:13:56,120 --> 01:14:04,600 Speaker 1: know what I'm serving. I'm all ribs for everybody. That's fantastic. 1310 01:14:05,040 --> 01:14:06,839 Speaker 2: Let me make By the way, is it weird. 1311 01:14:06,680 --> 01:14:09,799 Speaker 1: That they bring it background Thanksgiving? Odd? Yes? 1312 01:14:09,840 --> 01:14:13,120 Speaker 2: It is weird. It odd, and I don't understand why. 1313 01:14:13,479 --> 01:14:16,280 Speaker 1: Well, he's looking for the McRib. The gym Beam Winter 1314 01:14:16,520 --> 01:14:21,080 Speaker 1: Reserve is there. Honestly, that's an acquired taste right there 1315 01:14:21,120 --> 01:14:23,400 Speaker 1: at twenty nine ninety nine a bottle. You might want 1316 01:14:23,400 --> 01:14:26,280 Speaker 1: to give that a shot aged six years and oh 1317 01:14:26,280 --> 01:14:28,160 Speaker 1: my gosh, that's the McRib right there for five dollars 1318 01:14:28,240 --> 01:14:31,639 Speaker 1: or forty nine cents, and the Rocky Mattel thirtieth seventeen 1319 01:14:31,680 --> 01:14:36,840 Speaker 1: dollars and fifty cents a stick. Maybe maybe have a 1320 01:14:36,880 --> 01:14:40,639 Speaker 1: wonderful and glorious thanksgiving, give thanks for the good things 1321 01:14:40,640 --> 01:14:43,200 Speaker 1: in your life. Take a moment on them, would you guys? 1322 01:14:43,200 --> 01:14:44,880 Speaker 1: Go catch you next time it see drink smoke