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Speaker 2: To the week Here of August fourth, I'm Kevin Bowe

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Speaker 2: and James Boyd and Mark Dyton. Jeff, we'll be back tomorrow,

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Speaker 2: Jeff re enters and James Boyd. You exits. You are

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Speaker 2: off to Baltimore for I guess one joint session, correct,

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Speaker 2: and then you're back here before the preseason opener on

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Speaker 2: Thursday night.

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Speaker 3: Yes, sir, just a little quick trip out to the

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Speaker 3: East Coast, and I'm excited to see Lamar Jackson up close,

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Speaker 3: God bless you, Mark, and to also see what does

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Speaker 3: his defense look like. I gains a quarterback like that.

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Speaker 3: Obviously I want to see the quarterbacks for the Colts' purposes,

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Speaker 3: but defensively, I'm very curious.

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Speaker 2: We give a what's up to our good friend Chuck

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Speaker 2: Magana while you're there.

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Speaker 3: Yes, I will. You know, he's probably you know, loving

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Speaker 3: this to be back in it, you know, with the football,

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Speaker 3: and obviously he's a lifer as well. I kind of

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Speaker 3: think of him and Rick Vantery, a lot of these

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Speaker 3: guys as people who in some capacity will have football

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Speaker 3: in their lives just because they can't really function without it,

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Speaker 3: and obviously the health challenges he's been through, so I'm

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Speaker 3: happy to see him back out there doing what he loves.

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Speaker 2: A senior defensive assistant, secondary coach, something like that for

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Speaker 2: Chuck Magano back with John Harball's staff. I want to

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Speaker 2: hit something you said a little bit earlier, I know

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Speaker 2: Mark and the YouTube chat asked this. You said something

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Speaker 2: about Daniel Jones that he has been more consistent, and

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Speaker 2: Mark chimed in with, well, if he's been more consistent,

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Speaker 2: isn't exactly what the Colts wanted from him?

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Speaker 3: So yeah, fair enough.

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Speaker 2: Do you then take that a step further and say, well,

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Speaker 2: he's been what the Colts want for and then that

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Speaker 2: means he'll be the starter? Or are you not going

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Speaker 2: that far?

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Speaker 3: I'm not going that far because I don't think that

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Speaker 3: Anthony has been as inconsistent enough to just blow the job.

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Speaker 3: I still think it's relatively even right now, and if

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Speaker 3: it's even, tide goes to the guy that you drafted

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Speaker 3: fourth overall. In my opinion, I don't think that Daniel

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Speaker 3: Jones's consistency which has been better. I don't know if

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Speaker 3: we charted it Kevin, he will probably have a higher

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Speaker 3: completion percentage throughout these first what nine training camp practices. However,

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Speaker 3: there isn't a big enough gap there in my opinion

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Speaker 3: to say, oh, this guy should definitely start over Anthony.

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Speaker 3: I think that if he wanted to win the starting job,

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Speaker 3: he would have to go out there and clearly I'll

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Speaker 3: play Richardson and that just hasn't been the case throughout

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Speaker 3: training camp. I think Mark is the one who was saying,

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Speaker 3: or has been saying, when it comes to the quarterbacks,

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Speaker 3: if you start Daniel Jones to start the season, you're

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Speaker 3: telling Anthony it's over. And I don't care what Chris

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Speaker 3: Ballard says the front office, the team always still believe

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Speaker 3: in him. No, you don't. If you start Daniel Jones

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Speaker 3: week going over that guy, it is over. However, if

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Speaker 3: you start Anthony and it doesn't go well, you still

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Speaker 3: got Daniel Jones wait in the wing. So I think

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Speaker 3: it's a little bit easier for transition to go from

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Speaker 3: you know, Anthony and Daniel than Daniel and Anthony.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, there's part of me during the summer

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Speaker 2: that thought, boy, the loser of this competition might be

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Speaker 2: the biggest winner, because everyone will be Mark's on this

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Speaker 2: train early early, Everybody's gonna be wanting this dude to

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Speaker 2: be the starter, you know, not even by Halloween. Probably

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Speaker 2: by like the end of September, they're gonna be clamoring

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Speaker 2: for whoever the number two quarterback is.

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Speaker 4: As a Bears fan, there's no more popular person in

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Speaker 2: Usually. Sure, well, I would have said this true. We're

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Speaker 2: not nine days into things at Grand Park. It continues

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Speaker 2: that that cheer continues to be much much higher than

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Speaker 2: it is for Daniel Jones. Yeah, I mean, I would

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Speaker 2: say Daniel Jones largely has been who he is so

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Speaker 2: just going to come down to what exactly changed Stike

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Speaker 2: it's probably Daniel Jones. But if he actually is gonna

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Speaker 2: We have to do something down the field, then it's

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Speaker 2: I just think stike it a little bit more pro

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Speaker 3: Then he wants to me publicly, I think because the

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Speaker 3: work consistency has been brought up over and over and

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Speaker 3: over again with Daniel Jones, and that is the word

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Speaker 3: that James Sykin is also mentioned as far as what

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Speaker 3: he wants at quarterback. So again, I don't think that

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Speaker 3: Daniel Jones has done enough to really separate himself from

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Speaker 3: him and Anthony. But at the same time, as long

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Speaker 3: I would honestly that Anthony might even have a slight

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Speaker 3: lead at this point just because Daniel hasn't now played him.

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Speaker 3: You know, I think Anthony gets the nod. But here's

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Speaker 3: a question for you. Are we going to see a

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Speaker 3: quarterback change no matter who starts Week one in the

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Speaker 2: I think you got to give that Week one starter

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Speaker 3: Well, I meant like after the first four games, by

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Speaker 3: week five, do we see a different starter.

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Speaker 2: Oh gosh, that's a yeah. That season will be off

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Speaker 2: the rails at that points.

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Speaker 3: That's a real question because in my mind, I'm also thinking.

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Speaker 2: At that point you're sharing one in three or oh

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Speaker 2: and four in the face if you're thinking about making

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Speaker 2: a quarterback change, right.

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Speaker 3: Exactly, And in my mind, if you're looking at oh

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Speaker 3: and two, that noise is gonna get loud, especially if

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Speaker 3: the quarterback play isn't good. Now, if you lose the

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Speaker 3: I would be honestly very surprised, I gave up a

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Speaker 3: I think that would obviously be a different case. But

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Speaker 3: if it's quarterback play that causes you to go on

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Speaker 3: to oh man, that's he's gonna get very very high.

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Speaker 2: Well, and it gets back to so far as how

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Speaker 2: and again the competition is played into this, But it

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Speaker 2: in March of saying my worry with having a quarterback

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Speaker 2: competition with two bad and inconsistent quarterbacks. Is that at

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Speaker 2: the end of the day, you give them inconsistent reps

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Here, here's Mark Leach in the YouTube chat. I don't

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Speaker 3: know if this is fair, but I think this is

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Speaker 3: kind of funny. He says, AR is dunkin Donuts coffee.

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Speaker 3: Sometimes it's good, sometimes it tastes like coffee from three

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Speaker 3: weeks ago. DJ is Speedway coffee, never good, but always

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Speaker 3: the same, just like I don't know about never good

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Speaker 3: for DJ. I mean he had led a team to

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Speaker 3: the playoffs, which was years ago. Daniel Jones actually a

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Speaker 3: great game against the Colts.

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Speaker 2: I think I like that analogy by Mark, but that

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Speaker 2: was that was the I mean, I think that's pretty

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Speaker 2: good work. Yeah, Maddie got some dunkin Donuts coffee yesterday.

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Speaker 3: I've never had bad dunkin Donuts coffee. How many dos

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Speaker 3: you going a week?

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Speaker 2: Though?

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Speaker 3: I mean, if you goes seven days.

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Speaker 2: I think you got to be a coffee snob to

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Speaker 2: really just a shudd and shun the dunkin Donuts like that.

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Speaker 4: I'd say it's more like, you know, the Motel coffee,

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Speaker 4: like it's here, it's fine. I wouldn't get that. I

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Speaker 2: You're just trying to survive in advance.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, at that point, which honestly I think that it

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Speaker 3: would be their proach with Daniel Jones.

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Speaker 2: Well yeah, I mean we've the right advance. I think

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Speaker 2: the anlogie ab us is you know, you're dropping the

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Speaker 2: You know, can he? That's sort of the thought process

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Speaker 2: with that Ageah, both quarterbacks I thought were really I

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Speaker 2: thought Richardson was extra poor on Saturday. Yeah, no new disugar,

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Speaker 2: and then they bounced back yesterday in a better day.

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Speaker 2: For those that missed it, playing time for the preseason changed.

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Speaker 2: I can touch on this a little bit. After practice.

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Speaker 2: It sounds like both quarterbacks will play whatever a good

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Speaker 2: amount means. But that was the word Shane Second used

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Speaker 2: on Thursday, and then the reverse of that will happen

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Speaker 2: So again, I don't think it's the most shocking thing

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Speaker 2: probably gonna let it play out through two weeks of

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Speaker 2: preseason game. Yeah, with Gardner Minshew. Again, that wasn't like

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Speaker 2: an outright competition fifty to fifty split as much as

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Speaker 2: this is. So it sounds like the quarterback plan for Thursday,

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Speaker 2: Shane will I think the thought was he was going

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Speaker 2: to tell the quarterbacks tomorrow, probably share it with the

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Speaker 2: public coming up after tomorrow's joint practice with the Ravens,

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Speaker 2: and then he will flip flop that for the Green

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Speaker 2: Bay game. Will you make anything of whoever is the

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Speaker 2: initial starter Thursday? Absolutely leaving in their eyes whoever starts

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Speaker 2: Thursday is the leader.

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Speaker 3: Honestly thinks so, Hey, this Ravens defense is will to

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Speaker 3: be very very good. If you want to get reps in,

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Speaker 3: you want to see what your guy can do, you're

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Speaker 2: Of course, got to wait and see if the Ravens

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Speaker 2: play their starters.

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Speaker 3: Fair enough, fair enough, But also I was getting at

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Speaker 3: the joint practice too, like, who you know, how does

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Speaker 3: that look?

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Speaker 2: But to the tomorrow starter matters to you that too.

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Speaker 3: Yes, I think it all matter. I'm not saying like

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Speaker 3: it's the end all, be all, final decision, But in

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Speaker 3: my mind, if I'm leaning towards one quarterback over the other,

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Speaker 3: why the heck would I play him? Second? This doesn't

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Speaker 3: make sense to me. And I get that, you know,

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Speaker 3: there's other logistical things you want to factor in, but

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Speaker 3: I don't see the upside or the incentive to not

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Speaker 3: play the guy that I think is going to be

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Speaker 3: my dude first up, simple as that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the second preseason game, I think it'll be interesting,

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Speaker 2: like when is that dress rehearsal? Like will they view

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Speaker 2: the Green Bay game as like, hey, let's actually play

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Speaker 2: our starters a little bit longer in that game?

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Speaker 5: Right? You know?

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Speaker 2: Do you get into that sort of feel with justical

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Speaker 2: stuff I was talking to Remember, you only have three

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Speaker 2: of these games, Yeah, you know, when you had or

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Speaker 2: you played them a little bit longer, and then the

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Speaker 2: fourth preseason game was the to use the Rick venturi

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Speaker 2: Again enjoint practice number one. The Colts will have two

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Speaker 2: excellent performance by the Indian Fever. They did have to

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Speaker 3: Yeah, having a twelve page pay per due on a

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Speaker 2: She said, she's in grad school for applied behavior analysis.

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Speaker 3: Netflix did the QB one series and they moved it

437
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Speaker 3: off of that platfor But to your point, yes, he

438
00:20:02,880 --> 00:20:04,840
Speaker 3: was follow him and Bryce Young and.

439
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Speaker 2: Him and right were two of the three quarterbacks, and

440
00:20:06,680 --> 00:20:11,240
Speaker 2: it was a from Bryce Young's college high school atmosphere

441
00:20:11,280 --> 00:20:14,120
Speaker 2: which was like a college atmosphere and everything around him

442
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Speaker 2: versus Anthony Richardson's And yeah, I get that some of

443
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Speaker 2: these Richardson quotes you've heard from training camp, they can

444
00:20:19,760 --> 00:20:22,040
Speaker 2: be frustrating to people, like, wait a minute, it took

445
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Speaker 2: you this long to hear that, I can't be slacking anymore,

446
00:20:24,640 --> 00:20:28,600
Speaker 2: and all of that. But we'll see obviously how it

447
00:20:28,640 --> 00:20:31,399
Speaker 2: all plays out. I think something to note that I

448
00:20:31,440 --> 00:20:34,320
Speaker 2: am eager James for tomorrow when you're out there in Baltimore,

449
00:20:34,320 --> 00:20:36,479
Speaker 2: and then of course Thursday night seeing how much Richardson

450
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Speaker 2: and Daniel Jones play. I would say Richardson and Jones

451
00:20:42,119 --> 00:20:47,119
Speaker 2: have been pretty good in two of the last three practices. Now,

452
00:20:47,560 --> 00:20:49,439
Speaker 2: both of those days the Cults wore down three of

453
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Speaker 2: their top five corners. Yesterday again was one of those

454
00:20:52,040 --> 00:20:55,719
Speaker 2: days where they were really banged up at corner so

455
00:20:55,840 --> 00:20:56,600
Speaker 2: that roster.

456
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Speaker 3: Kevin I was like, who's thirty five, Who's three? Said,

457
00:20:58,440 --> 00:20:59,280
Speaker 3: who's this? Who's that?

458
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Speaker 2: It is a lot of that at the cornerback position

459
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Speaker 2: right now. So again going up against somebody else, because

460
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Speaker 2: you know, think back to Cincinnati last year in that

461
00:21:06,960 --> 00:21:11,000
Speaker 2: joint practice, I mean the Bengals defense was literally laughing.

462
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Speaker 5: Yeah.

463
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Speaker 2: No, I was there at Anthony Richardson for not throwing

464
00:21:14,320 --> 00:21:16,880
Speaker 2: the football or when he did throw it not accurately enough.

465
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Speaker 3: They were calling him basically like trash to his face.

466
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Speaker 2: And that turned out to be spot on, unfortunately for

467
00:21:22,640 --> 00:21:24,960
Speaker 2: the Colts. And I think I don't want to make

468
00:21:25,320 --> 00:21:28,640
Speaker 2: too much out of these small sample sizes we get

469
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Speaker 2: in August, but I do feel like if you go

470
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Speaker 2: back the past several years, there's been these moments for

471
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Speaker 2: the Colts. I e that moment in Cincinnati. I think

472
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Speaker 2: back to a preseason game in Buffalo a couple of

473
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Speaker 2: years ago where the Colts played their starters, Buffalo did not,

474
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Speaker 2: and the Colts backups got whooped in the first quarter.

475
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Speaker 2: All right, excuse me, the Colts starters got whooped by

476
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Speaker 2: the Bills backups. And again it's like, wait, how much

477
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Speaker 2: do you make out of just a little bit of

478
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Speaker 2: August sample size? Like, didn't the Lions go undefeated in

479
00:21:57,720 --> 00:21:59,760
Speaker 2: the preseason the year they went oh in sixteen? And

480
00:22:00,040 --> 00:22:03,280
Speaker 2: didn't the Colts always lose with payon manny in the preseason.

481
00:22:03,680 --> 00:22:07,120
Speaker 2: But yet with this Colt's era, I feel like the

482
00:22:07,160 --> 00:22:12,760
Speaker 2: August indicators have carried into the season, so I do

483
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Speaker 2: think that is something to keep it on for tomorrow.

484
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Speaker 4: One of my best friends who is a Lions fan,

485
00:22:18,480 --> 00:22:20,720
Speaker 4: the year they went oh to sixteen, I purchased a

486
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Speaker 4: shirt and he says he still has to this day.

487
00:22:22,680 --> 00:22:24,720
Speaker 4: I bought him a shirt that said preseason champs because

488
00:22:24,720 --> 00:22:26,359
Speaker 4: they're four and oh and he's like, and then we

489
00:22:26,400 --> 00:22:27,920
Speaker 4: never won a game? Is the first year he ever

490
00:22:27,960 --> 00:22:30,879
Speaker 4: bought NFL Sunday tickets? I bought it to watch the

491
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Speaker 4: game and they didn't win a single game?

492
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Speaker 3: Like I didn't know that. That is actually like that

493
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Speaker 3: shoulda be like on Jeopardy years.

494
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Speaker 4: So you should have got a refund.

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Speaker 2: That was back in the four game preseason schedule. Yeah.

496
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Speaker 4: Wow, so you bought NFL Sunday ticket for the first

497
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Speaker 4: year ever because obviously the Lions were out of market

498
00:22:48,920 --> 00:22:50,680
Speaker 4: and they didn't want a single game. So he had

499
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Speaker 4: all that money that he flutched on the toy didn't

500
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Speaker 4: even get.

501
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Speaker 2: You because now he's getting the last laugh. That's true.

502
00:22:57,480 --> 00:22:58,879
Speaker 2: Then you're just sitting here as a Bears fan.

503
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Speaker 3: You got a free T shirt out of it, it too. Yeah,

504
00:23:01,760 --> 00:23:04,239
Speaker 3: that actually is pretty always wonder is it free if

505
00:23:04,280 --> 00:23:06,600
Speaker 3: you've paid all that money. Like when you go somewhere,

506
00:23:06,760 --> 00:23:08,800
Speaker 3: you go to the dentist or whatever, and they're like, hey,

507
00:23:08,800 --> 00:23:10,639
Speaker 3: you get this free thing. Oh what, I like a coope.

508
00:23:10,800 --> 00:23:12,280
Speaker 3: So I pretty much paid for this, but thank you.

509
00:23:13,080 --> 00:23:14,240
Speaker 3: That's how I feel most of the time.

510
00:23:14,480 --> 00:23:16,240
Speaker 2: There is something about coming on with that bag and

511
00:23:16,240 --> 00:23:19,280
Speaker 2: I'm like, here we go that travel toothpaste. There we go.

512
00:23:19,440 --> 00:23:21,680
Speaker 3: That is clutch. I actually have to get some travel toothpaste.

513
00:23:21,760 --> 00:23:23,520
Speaker 3: I'm set airport today.

514
00:23:23,800 --> 00:23:25,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's perfect. I know, I'm set.

515
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Speaker 3: I have a question, Smokey the bear shirt or what

516
00:23:29,119 --> 00:23:29,959
Speaker 3: is this? What we got going?

517
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Speaker 4: Here?

518
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Speaker 1: Is it?

519
00:23:30,600 --> 00:23:30,800
Speaker 5: Dog?

520
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Speaker 3: Oh?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? This is when I went to Tennessee Georgia SEC

522
00:23:35,800 --> 00:23:37,960
Speaker 2: game a few years ago. And yeah, me and my

523
00:23:37,960 --> 00:23:40,240
Speaker 2: buddies on the boys trip, we all bought Tennessee shirts before.

524
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Speaker 2: You know, you can't just walk through the tailgate fields

525
00:23:42,480 --> 00:23:44,399
Speaker 2: acting like you're sticking out like a sore thumb. You

526
00:23:44,400 --> 00:23:45,040
Speaker 2: gotta blend in.

527
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Speaker 3: So yeah, this is true.

528
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's one of my favorite shirts. And again, college

529
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Speaker 2: football we are nearing.

530
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Speaker 3: Yes, I can't wait. It's gonna be great.

531
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Speaker 2: I think there's three Saturdays away coming up this weekend

532
00:23:54,720 --> 00:23:56,919
Speaker 2: and then whatever Saturday it starts on, there will be

533
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Speaker 2: no productive James Boyd on that day productive at the

534
00:24:00,680 --> 00:24:03,520
Speaker 2: eight o'clock hour, What to make of Terry McLaurin and

535
00:24:03,560 --> 00:24:06,639
Speaker 2: Michael Parsons and how that could apply to the Colts.

536
00:24:06,760 --> 00:24:10,280
Speaker 2: Also the swagger of Ady Mitchell alive and well, what

537
00:24:10,400 --> 00:24:12,520
Speaker 2: was seen and what was heard from number ten here

538
00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:15,680
Speaker 2: in week two we'll hit on that and unfortunately quite

539
00:24:15,680 --> 00:24:18,520
Speaker 2: the ugly scene near the end of Colts practice yesterday.

540
00:24:19,080 --> 00:24:22,280
Speaker 2: We'll recap what exactly took place with that. Kevin bow

541
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Speaker 2: and James Boyd and Mark Dyighton here on a Monday,

542
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Speaker 2: Thank you for starting your week with us nine o'clock

543
00:24:28,280 --> 00:24:32,359
Speaker 2: hour here on this some Monday morning. Colts off from today.

544
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Speaker 2: Actually it's a travel day for the Colts, travel day

545
00:24:34,800 --> 00:24:37,200
Speaker 2: for James Boyd. Colts will be yeah, I'll be uh.

546
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Speaker 3: You know, sitting next to Daniel Jones and Anthony Richison

547
00:24:40,400 --> 00:24:42,840
Speaker 3: breaking down film on way to Baltimore and asking him, hey,

548
00:24:43,080 --> 00:24:44,840
Speaker 3: this is what I saw. Hey, Anthony, you got to

549
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Speaker 3: get the ball here. Daniel, come on, man, wake up.

550
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Speaker 5: You know.

551
00:24:47,440 --> 00:24:48,920
Speaker 3: I'll make sure to get report back and let you

552
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Speaker 3: all know what they think of Coach Boyd.

553
00:24:50,800 --> 00:24:55,359
Speaker 2: Slightly different lines of TSA for Daniel Jones versus James Boyd.

554
00:24:55,400 --> 00:24:58,360
Speaker 2: Today let my prechect though I must say Jeff will

555
00:24:58,400 --> 00:25:01,200
Speaker 2: be back tomorrow. It'll be Jeff and myself Kevin Bow

556
00:25:01,240 --> 00:25:04,080
Speaker 2: in the next couple of days for James rejoins this

557
00:25:04,200 --> 00:25:07,280
Speaker 2: joint practice coming up tomorrow in Baltimore again the preseason

558
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Speaker 2: opener Thursday. James, I wouldn't say there's been a lot

559
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Speaker 2: of national media making the rounds to Grand Park. There's

560
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Speaker 2: been a little bit. And our next guest is one

561
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Speaker 2: of the members of the national media that has been

562
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Speaker 2: to Grand Park.

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Speaker 3: Yes, Matt Verdam from s I made the trip out

564
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Speaker 3: to Westfield to see Colds practice and he was kind

565
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Speaker 3: enough to doing us this morning. So Matt, how you doing,

566
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Speaker 3: my man?

567
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Speaker 5: I'm good. How are you?

568
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Speaker 3: I do want to ask, I'm doing great as well.

569
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Speaker 3: But where are you right now? You on the road?

570
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Speaker 5: No, it's actually uh, I'm going to be I'm maybe

571
00:25:39,400 --> 00:25:41,720
Speaker 5: be in Kansas City tomorrow, but I'm home. I went

572
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Speaker 5: off for the weekend, so it's a day yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah for the phones listening. Matt is one of those

574
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Speaker 3: guys who makes you know several tips around the country.

575
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Speaker 3: This time of year to catching and checking in all

576
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Speaker 3: the camps, and you were able to stop by Colds camp.

577
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Speaker 3: And obviously a lot is transpired since then with the quarterbacks,

578
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Speaker 3: but just your initial thought on the quarterback battle, and

579
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Speaker 3: you know which way would you be leading right now

580
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Speaker 3: with the context of knowing, at least for those here

581
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Speaker 3: on the ground beyond just that one day you were

582
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Speaker 3: out here, Matt that it has been relatively even, but

583
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Speaker 3: Daniel Jones has been more consistent, Anthony probably more explosive.

584
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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, look, when he signed Daniel Jones, my

585
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Speaker 5: first thought was that Daniel Jones is going to get

586
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Speaker 5: a real shot to start, and I think he probably

587
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Speaker 5: will start now. I kind of feel though, like, if

588
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Speaker 5: it's even close, I would start Richardson, because if you

589
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Speaker 5: start Richardson and he's not good, it doesn't work. Whatever, Okay,

590
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Speaker 5: you just go to Daniel Jones. If you start Daniel Jones,

591
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Speaker 5: you're essentially saying, hey, look we're doing Anthony Richardson and

592
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Speaker 5: I don't know, like yet, could you go back to him?

593
00:26:49,760 --> 00:26:53,280
Speaker 5: Yes you can, but you're telling him you have no

594
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Speaker 5: confidence him, you have no faith in him. So I

595
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Speaker 5: just think if you're the Colts You're not winning this

596
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Speaker 5: Super Bowl at Tam Jones. It's Daniel Jones is going

597
00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:03,399
Speaker 5: to go in there and be unbelievable. That's not going

598
00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:06,919
Speaker 5: to happen. So I would try to go with my

599
00:27:07,040 --> 00:27:10,680
Speaker 5: number four overall pick first, and then if it doesn't

600
00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:13,919
Speaker 5: work out, okay, fine, then then you go to Jones

601
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Speaker 5: and you at least made a good faith out.

602
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Speaker 2: Matt, you are a part of the group that chatted

603
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Speaker 2: with both quarterbacks. I think it's a little different in

604
00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:24,639
Speaker 2: the candid nature Anthony Richardson versus Daniel Jones. But I

605
00:27:24,680 --> 00:27:27,320
Speaker 2: was kind of struck by some of Richardson's comments with

606
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Speaker 2: you guys. He certainly I thought, was, you know, pretty

607
00:27:30,280 --> 00:27:32,520
Speaker 2: candidate and explaining like all right, I got to bleep

608
00:27:32,560 --> 00:27:35,720
Speaker 2: and get off the pot right now. Could you share

609
00:27:35,760 --> 00:27:38,480
Speaker 2: a little bit of what that conversation was like with him?

610
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Speaker 5: Yeah, I look, he was right candid. I think we

611
00:27:41,880 --> 00:27:45,320
Speaker 5: spoke him for about eight minutes. He I led with

612
00:27:45,359 --> 00:27:49,760
Speaker 5: a quote in my camp report from Indianapolis that they saying, look,

613
00:27:49,800 --> 00:27:53,040
Speaker 5: you know, Richardson sat there and said to us, well,

614
00:27:53,040 --> 00:27:56,680
Speaker 5: I got to stop slacking off. I mean, that's a quote, dude.

615
00:27:57,320 --> 00:27:59,080
Speaker 5: I don't think I've ever had an NFL player say

616
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Speaker 5: to I mean they've got to stop sla so in

617
00:28:01,760 --> 00:28:03,520
Speaker 5: one day and you're like, well, jeez, I mean, you've

618
00:28:03,520 --> 00:28:05,560
Speaker 5: been slacking off the last few years. That's not great.

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Speaker 5: On the other hand, it takes you know, real introspection

620
00:28:10,080 --> 00:28:12,159
Speaker 5: to be able to say that and to say it

621
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Speaker 5: assumingly with the idea that you've stopped now. You know. Look,

622
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Speaker 5: he also talked about he wants to master the offense

623
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Speaker 5: and you want to be able to teach the offense

624
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Speaker 5: like a coach. All that stuff is really you know, encouraging.

625
00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:29,879
Speaker 5: The question becomes, Okay, how much progress can you make

626
00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:31,280
Speaker 5: in an off season, because he's got to make a

627
00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:35,760
Speaker 5: lot and he was awful last year, so he was forthcoming.

628
00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:38,280
Speaker 5: He acknowledged factor of startle last season. He acknowledged fact

629
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Speaker 5: that he frankly hasn't been putting in the amount of

630
00:28:40,600 --> 00:28:42,400
Speaker 5: work he had to put in. But he feels like

631
00:28:42,440 --> 00:28:46,600
Speaker 5: he rectified that the sefseason. Does that show up in

632
00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:48,560
Speaker 5: his play and you know, look, I give him credit

633
00:28:48,600 --> 00:28:52,200
Speaker 5: for recognizing that, but at the same point, that's also

634
00:28:52,400 --> 00:28:54,080
Speaker 5: you know, let's be honest, I mean, that's a rough

635
00:28:54,120 --> 00:28:57,080
Speaker 5: look for a guy who you're coming into the league

636
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Speaker 5: expected to be the franchise. But I would also to

637
00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:01,800
Speaker 5: sit here and see, he's one of the most inexperienced

638
00:29:01,840 --> 00:29:03,880
Speaker 5: quarterbacks that ever walked to the NFL, and he hadn't

639
00:29:03,880 --> 00:29:07,080
Speaker 5: thrown a thousand castes between high school and college. So

640
00:29:07,120 --> 00:29:11,480
Speaker 5: it's a it's a learning curve. But JENFL, they're not

641
00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:13,600
Speaker 5: gonna give you five years. You got to figure it out,

642
00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:15,520
Speaker 5: and he's obviously, you know, he's got to figure it

643
00:29:15,520 --> 00:29:16,240
Speaker 5: out right now.

644
00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:21,760
Speaker 3: To piggyback off that Matt We've heard a lot of conversations,

645
00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:24,160
Speaker 3: and I believe Chris Ballad he's even admitted at this

646
00:29:24,280 --> 00:29:27,600
Speaker 3: point maybe we gave him too much too soon, or

647
00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:29,600
Speaker 3: perhaps we shouldn't have played him right out the gate.

648
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Speaker 3: From your perspective, how has that conversation around quarterbacks changed?

649
00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:39,040
Speaker 3: Because I haven't seen in my time covering the NFL,

650
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Speaker 3: and I'm going to my fourth season, and obviously I've

651
00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:44,280
Speaker 3: watched and been a fan for quite some time. But

652
00:29:44,360 --> 00:29:48,120
Speaker 3: over the last ten years, who's the quarterback that was

653
00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:51,680
Speaker 3: drafted very high, that weighted and sat. When I hear

654
00:29:52,120 --> 00:29:55,840
Speaker 3: references about that, it's Patrick Mahomes, It's Aaron Rodgers and others.

655
00:29:55,880 --> 00:29:58,960
Speaker 3: But I mean, those years are getting further and further away,

656
00:29:58,960 --> 00:30:00,840
Speaker 3: And I don't know if the NFL is it patient

657
00:30:00,960 --> 00:30:03,280
Speaker 3: enough as a league to draft the guys has Anthony

658
00:30:03,360 --> 00:30:05,200
Speaker 3: Richardson and not playing right away or how do you

659
00:30:05,280 --> 00:30:07,479
Speaker 3: I guess fall in that debate.

660
00:30:08,400 --> 00:30:10,760
Speaker 5: No. I mean, look with Rogers and the Homes, the

661
00:30:10,760 --> 00:30:12,719
Speaker 5: same thing was true with both guys. Those guys were

662
00:30:12,760 --> 00:30:15,120
Speaker 5: drafted by teams that were originally picking in the twenties,

663
00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:18,200
Speaker 5: and Rogers was actually taking in the twenties Malls. I mean,

664
00:30:18,240 --> 00:30:20,880
Speaker 5: the Chiefs went twenty seven to ten. The Chiefs were

665
00:30:20,880 --> 00:30:23,840
Speaker 5: twelve and four the year Mahomes got drafted. They had

666
00:30:23,840 --> 00:30:25,720
Speaker 5: the luxury of sitting there and saying, hey, we're gonna

667
00:30:25,720 --> 00:30:27,880
Speaker 5: play Alex Smith. We're a really good team with Alex Smith.

668
00:30:28,600 --> 00:30:31,720
Speaker 5: So it's different than when you're drafting a guy. And

669
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Speaker 5: you know, I remember that year when the Colts draft

670
00:30:33,520 --> 00:30:35,400
Speaker 5: and you know, Richardson and I got to camp that

671
00:30:35,480 --> 00:30:38,440
Speaker 5: year and it's him and Gardner. Minshew, you're gonna play

672
00:30:38,440 --> 00:30:41,480
Speaker 5: Anthea Richardson. You just are. I got it. It's like

673
00:30:41,560 --> 00:30:43,840
Speaker 5: Drake May last year. And there's also talking, oh, are

674
00:30:43,840 --> 00:30:46,080
Speaker 5: the Pats gonna play Trader? Yeah, they are they're gonna

675
00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:48,680
Speaker 5: play Drake May because they stink they're gonna play them,

676
00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:51,360
Speaker 5: you know. I mean, it's just the other thing that's

677
00:30:51,400 --> 00:30:53,840
Speaker 5: different is, yeah, I'm thirty month. Hell, it's my birthday.

678
00:30:53,840 --> 00:30:54,960
Speaker 5: It is Morris, I'm thirty seven.

679
00:30:55,280 --> 00:30:59,680
Speaker 2: Like thank you. Yeah, man, you gotta hang up man.

680
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Speaker 2: I mean.

681
00:31:01,520 --> 00:31:03,880
Speaker 3: James Boys book, he didn't tell me that.

682
00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:04,840
Speaker 2: He didn't tell me that.

683
00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:08,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, I real love out here from my friends, Kevin.

684
00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:11,240
Speaker 5: But it's it's thirty It's thirty seven, guys, it's not

685
00:31:11,280 --> 00:31:15,720
Speaker 5: twenty one. But you know what, Like the point I'm

686
00:31:15,720 --> 00:31:17,560
Speaker 5: making is like I grew up in the nineties where

687
00:31:18,080 --> 00:31:20,120
Speaker 5: if you hired a coach, that coach got three years,

688
00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:23,280
Speaker 5: right like Minim that guy was getting three years. You

689
00:31:23,800 --> 00:31:27,040
Speaker 5: might have one year now in the NFL, maybe two,

690
00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:29,720
Speaker 5: But like there's not a coach on Earth's getting three

691
00:31:29,840 --> 00:31:32,720
Speaker 5: guaranteed years coming into the league. It is not. So

692
00:31:33,640 --> 00:31:35,479
Speaker 5: I think a lot of times these coaches come in

693
00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:39,720
Speaker 5: and they go, Okay, well guess what we got to

694
00:31:39,760 --> 00:31:43,560
Speaker 5: win now? I can't wait. I can't wait forever, you know,

695
00:31:43,560 --> 00:31:45,840
Speaker 5: We've got to It's like right now with Jackson Dart

696
00:31:45,840 --> 00:31:48,040
Speaker 5: with the Giants. Now, Davell actually has had a couple

697
00:31:48,040 --> 00:31:51,920
Speaker 5: of years because they had the early success. Dabell at

698
00:31:51,920 --> 00:31:54,760
Speaker 5: some point here they're playing Jackson Dart. They're just good,

699
00:31:54,920 --> 00:31:58,080
Speaker 5: like if they're one and four of Russell Wilson. Jackson

700
00:31:58,200 --> 00:32:00,360
Speaker 5: Dart's playing because Dabell's gonna sit there and so is

701
00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:03,320
Speaker 5: Joe Janey're go, well, we've got to win now, We've

702
00:32:03,320 --> 00:32:06,520
Speaker 5: got to show something now, and if we don't do that,

703
00:32:07,280 --> 00:32:09,800
Speaker 5: we're all. We're fired, We're gone. Our kids are changing

704
00:32:09,880 --> 00:32:13,080
Speaker 5: schools like we get to do. So I think that's

705
00:32:13,080 --> 00:32:15,160
Speaker 5: a lot of it too. There's just no patience in

706
00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:16,040
Speaker 5: the league anymore.

707
00:32:17,040 --> 00:32:19,240
Speaker 2: Matt verder Ran from SI with us here on his

708
00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:22,840
Speaker 2: thirty seventh birthday. Gosh, that just makes me all of

709
00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:25,760
Speaker 2: a sudden cringe that I'm gonna be thirty six next

710
00:32:25,800 --> 00:32:27,320
Speaker 2: month and I'll probably feel the same way Matt feels

711
00:32:27,320 --> 00:32:30,600
Speaker 2: about his thirty seventh birthday here coming up, Matt, let's

712
00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:32,440
Speaker 2: go with the two big names in the NFC East

713
00:32:32,520 --> 00:32:35,120
Speaker 2: right now and their futures. Do you think more realistic

714
00:32:35,160 --> 00:32:38,760
Speaker 2: Michael Parsons gets moved or more realistic Terry McLaurin gets moved.

715
00:32:39,920 --> 00:32:41,920
Speaker 5: I don't think either one of them getting moved. But

716
00:32:42,480 --> 00:32:44,520
Speaker 5: if I had to say one or the other, I'll

717
00:32:44,560 --> 00:32:48,360
Speaker 5: say I'll say mcclaurin just because he's older. But I

718
00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:51,520
Speaker 5: would be shocked. I'd be shocked if they're a commander.

719
00:32:51,680 --> 00:32:53,600
Speaker 5: You just went to the MFGY championship game for first

720
00:32:53,600 --> 00:32:56,840
Speaker 5: time since nineteen ninety one. You're going to trade that guy?

721
00:32:57,040 --> 00:32:59,600
Speaker 5: And who's your number one receiver? Deebo Samuel. I'm sorry,

722
00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:02,400
Speaker 5: DeVos Anieals not anybody's number one to shave, Okay, I

723
00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:07,960
Speaker 5: mean you cannot tell Jayden Daniels, Haylo Jaydon. You're the

724
00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:11,960
Speaker 5: offensive rookie of the year. You were spectacular. You've turned

725
00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:14,880
Speaker 5: around the biggest dumpster fire for franchise in the league

726
00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:17,440
Speaker 5: for the last twenty five years running. Like we're going

727
00:33:17,480 --> 00:33:20,680
Speaker 5: to trade away your only real weapon. Good luck to you.

728
00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:24,440
Speaker 5: I mean you can't. He can't do that. And also too,

729
00:33:25,440 --> 00:33:27,960
Speaker 5: who are they paying you know? I mean Deron Payn's

730
00:33:27,960 --> 00:33:30,840
Speaker 5: getting paid, Tunzels paid, he's not short, BIG's up the money.

731
00:33:31,160 --> 00:33:32,960
Speaker 5: I just think they figure it out here at some point.

732
00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:36,360
Speaker 5: I'd be shocked if they don't. The Cowboys you also

733
00:33:36,400 --> 00:33:39,200
Speaker 5: sit there and say, look, history just says Jerry's eventually

734
00:33:39,240 --> 00:33:41,640
Speaker 5: going to overpay Mike Brses, That's what he does. He's

735
00:33:41,680 --> 00:33:44,280
Speaker 5: just he's gonna sit there. Jerry just wants to have

736
00:33:44,360 --> 00:33:47,960
Speaker 5: headlines for a month before he pays. The guy now

737
00:33:48,120 --> 00:33:50,400
Speaker 5: in the process is going to infuriate everybody in the building,

738
00:33:50,760 --> 00:33:53,200
Speaker 5: but he doesn't care because he's Sherry and he just

739
00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:57,680
Speaker 5: wants I made this point on a podcast I did yesterday.

740
00:33:58,760 --> 00:34:01,520
Speaker 5: Jerry Jones doesn't care if he wins. He doesn't care,

741
00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:04,480
Speaker 5: he's not it doesn't matter. He wants to be in

742
00:34:04,520 --> 00:34:08,320
Speaker 5: the headlines. Jerry's version of winning is leading first. Takes

743
00:34:08,400 --> 00:34:12,040
Speaker 5: a block four times a week. That's what Jerry cares about.

744
00:34:12,440 --> 00:34:14,399
Speaker 5: And if Jerry does that and they go nine and eight,

745
00:34:14,440 --> 00:34:17,560
Speaker 5: that's great. Hang the banner. That's all he cares about.

746
00:34:17,560 --> 00:34:20,879
Speaker 5: Like he doesn't. They're not a serious franchise and they

747
00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:24,000
Speaker 5: haven't been for a long time. And I think eventually

748
00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:27,400
Speaker 5: he'll pay Parsons forty three million a year and Parsons

749
00:34:27,440 --> 00:34:29,960
Speaker 5: will get over it, because money, you know, fixes everything, right.

750
00:34:30,040 --> 00:34:31,799
Speaker 5: I mean, if your boss pitches you off, but then

751
00:34:31,840 --> 00:34:34,080
Speaker 5: all of a sudden your boss doubles your salary, you're

752
00:34:34,120 --> 00:34:37,120
Speaker 5: pretty good with your boss again. Like it's just I

753
00:34:37,120 --> 00:34:39,920
Speaker 5: think that's how this goes. I think that's how it shakes.

754
00:34:40,480 --> 00:34:44,000
Speaker 5: But the cowboys in particular have a long standing history

755
00:34:44,520 --> 00:34:48,520
Speaker 5: of waiting forever to pay guys and then overpay him.

756
00:34:48,719 --> 00:34:50,120
Speaker 5: And that's exactly what's gonna.

757
00:34:49,880 --> 00:34:52,319
Speaker 3: Happen, Matt. I'll tell you this. You know, when it

758
00:34:52,360 --> 00:34:54,399
Speaker 3: comes to money, people always say, you know, money can't

759
00:34:54,400 --> 00:34:58,480
Speaker 3: buy happiness, but if I got just enough, it might

760
00:34:58,520 --> 00:35:00,440
Speaker 3: make it close enough where I can't tell difference.

761
00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:06,880
Speaker 5: Yeah. Look, money doesn't buy happiness, but it buys a

762
00:35:06,920 --> 00:35:10,680
Speaker 5: lot of things to make you happy. And yeah, I

763
00:35:10,719 --> 00:35:14,040
Speaker 5: mean Michael Parsons. If all of a sudden Jerry walks

764
00:35:14,080 --> 00:35:17,600
Speaker 5: in there, it's just, hey, Mike, listen, how four and

765
00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:22,279
Speaker 5: one eighty sound. I gotta tell you, Mike Parson's gonna

766
00:35:22,280 --> 00:35:25,920
Speaker 5: be a cowboy like that. Everybody's gonna get over it.

767
00:35:26,200 --> 00:35:28,359
Speaker 5: That's's gonna happen. And I just I think that's where

768
00:35:28,360 --> 00:35:28,800
Speaker 5: this will.

769
00:35:28,640 --> 00:35:31,960
Speaker 2: Probably end up, Matt. Last one from me. You obviously

770
00:35:32,239 --> 00:35:34,640
Speaker 2: have done some training camp tours and you are about

771
00:35:34,680 --> 00:35:37,879
Speaker 2: to restart them again. I know a lot of them.

772
00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:41,160
Speaker 2: You no longer go off site. Grand Park where Cold

773
00:35:41,200 --> 00:35:43,600
Speaker 2: Teather Training Camp is one of those places you do

774
00:35:43,680 --> 00:35:46,040
Speaker 2: go off sites about a twenty thirty minute drive from

775
00:35:46,080 --> 00:35:50,600
Speaker 2: their team complex. How does that compare to I guess

776
00:35:50,600 --> 00:35:53,920
Speaker 2: some of your other training camp stops, because that obviously

777
00:35:53,920 --> 00:35:56,120
Speaker 2: has changed a whole lot around the NFL over the

778
00:35:56,160 --> 00:35:58,480
Speaker 2: last probably ten fifteen years.

779
00:35:58,920 --> 00:36:01,160
Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, I like it. I like getting away

780
00:36:01,200 --> 00:36:03,760
Speaker 5: from team facilities. Like I said, be in Kansas City,

781
00:36:04,040 --> 00:36:09,239
Speaker 5: uh tomorrow for Wednesday's practice. And that's uh that they

782
00:36:09,400 --> 00:36:11,399
Speaker 5: I mean, they practiced at a college out in Saint

783
00:36:11,480 --> 00:36:15,719
Speaker 5: jo Missouri, which is I mean they they they're they're

784
00:36:15,760 --> 00:36:18,120
Speaker 5: at that college. Y're in dorm rooms for about five weeks.

785
00:36:18,239 --> 00:36:21,440
Speaker 5: They don't even leave. But yeah, it's you know, it's

786
00:36:21,520 --> 00:36:23,400
Speaker 5: it's cool, it's unique. And the Vikings are at their

787
00:36:23,440 --> 00:36:26,120
Speaker 5: own facility, the Lions there, they're at their practice, always

788
00:36:26,120 --> 00:36:28,080
Speaker 5: saying with the same with the Bears, and that the

789
00:36:28,120 --> 00:36:29,879
Speaker 5: Packers are right there at Lambo. I mean they're they're

790
00:36:29,880 --> 00:36:34,359
Speaker 5: in a shadow a lambeau Field. I think it's always fun,

791
00:36:34,800 --> 00:36:37,120
Speaker 5: you know, to kind of get away and feel like

792
00:36:37,200 --> 00:36:40,440
Speaker 5: you are it was isolated, but you know, kind of

793
00:36:40,520 --> 00:36:43,560
Speaker 5: just you know, in that mode of football. And I

794
00:36:43,560 --> 00:36:47,799
Speaker 5: think where the Colts hold their stuff in Westfield, it's

795
00:36:47,840 --> 00:36:50,160
Speaker 5: great for the fans. You know, they have a great setup.

796
00:36:50,320 --> 00:36:52,239
Speaker 5: You can get in and you can see everybody. And

797
00:36:52,280 --> 00:36:53,880
Speaker 5: the day I was there, it was about one hundred

798
00:36:53,880 --> 00:36:57,319
Speaker 5: and ten degrees, it felt like, and uh yeah, there

799
00:36:57,360 --> 00:37:00,160
Speaker 5: was packed. It was packed. I mean, so it's I

800
00:37:00,239 --> 00:37:02,200
Speaker 5: think it's good when fans have full access and they

801
00:37:02,200 --> 00:37:04,319
Speaker 5: can see the team. And especially for fans maybe they

802
00:37:04,320 --> 00:37:06,160
Speaker 5: can't afford to go to a game and spend a

803
00:37:06,200 --> 00:37:08,000
Speaker 5: lot of kind of money. I think it's a really

804
00:37:08,040 --> 00:37:09,839
Speaker 5: good thing when when teams get away and get fans

805
00:37:09,880 --> 00:37:12,839
Speaker 5: opportunity to go and watch and uh, you see there

806
00:37:12,920 --> 00:37:13,640
Speaker 5: see their heroes.

807
00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:16,080
Speaker 2: Well, and we'll see tomorrow if Kansas City is playing

808
00:37:16,080 --> 00:37:21,440
Speaker 2: a little tune maybe here, you know, maybe just a

809
00:37:21,480 --> 00:37:31,759
Speaker 2: little bit. Yeah maybe Matt Verd I got down on

810
00:37:31,800 --> 00:37:33,840
Speaker 2: the sideline. I can see Andy Reid getting down to that.

811
00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:36,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, Matt, Well, we got on a birthday slate man.

812
00:37:36,600 --> 00:37:38,600
Speaker 3: You can't can't be just talking to us on the radio.

813
00:37:39,640 --> 00:37:41,680
Speaker 5: Oh god, what do I have my birthday slate guy?

814
00:37:41,840 --> 00:37:45,200
Speaker 5: Another radio thing? And then uh, I'll probably go play

815
00:37:45,200 --> 00:37:48,920
Speaker 5: some pickle ball because I'm elderly, and then there we go. Yeah,

816
00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:50,640
Speaker 5: then I don't know, probably, I mean, I'm a Townian.

817
00:37:50,640 --> 00:37:52,640
Speaker 5: I'll probably like a birthday can only and sit there

818
00:37:52,680 --> 00:37:55,279
Speaker 5: and eat it in silence as my kids are at

819
00:37:55,400 --> 00:37:57,680
Speaker 5: day camp and just live to drink there.

820
00:37:57,719 --> 00:38:01,359
Speaker 2: You nothing can screen thirty seven year old more than

821
00:38:01,360 --> 00:38:06,759
Speaker 2: that description right there. Matt Murduran, Matt safe travels man,

822
00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:07,680
Speaker 2: and thank you for the time.

823
00:38:08,080 --> 00:38:11,160
Speaker 5: Hey, thanks walking, I speak here Tuggle.

824
00:38:11,040 --> 00:38:14,760
Speaker 2: NFL in the nine o'clock hour. Matt Verderam from Assai

825
00:38:14,960 --> 00:38:17,960
Speaker 2: gonna join us. He made a stop at Colts training camp.

826
00:38:19,400 --> 00:38:21,319
Speaker 2: What was that, James? Probably a handful of days ago

827
00:38:21,360 --> 00:38:21,920
Speaker 2: at this point.

828
00:38:22,120 --> 00:38:25,239
Speaker 3: Yes, and he's usually you know, doing a lot of

829
00:38:25,680 --> 00:38:28,839
Speaker 3: chief stuff as well. So afterwards I was asking him,

830
00:38:28,880 --> 00:38:33,400
Speaker 3: you know, Chiefs quarterback room or Colts quarterback room.

831
00:38:33,960 --> 00:38:35,960
Speaker 2: Well, that's certainly quite the debate you could have.

832
00:38:36,040 --> 00:38:38,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, I was ready to argue, but no, that was

833
00:38:38,400 --> 00:38:39,959
Speaker 3: not much for an argument on my on my part.

834
00:38:40,040 --> 00:38:42,640
Speaker 2: But speaking of Chiefs quarterback room, my brother said he

835
00:38:42,719 --> 00:38:47,319
Speaker 2: ran into one Carson Wentz at a local Kroger over

836
00:38:47,360 --> 00:38:50,200
Speaker 2: the weekend. Is Carson Wentz done?

837
00:38:51,400 --> 00:38:53,680
Speaker 3: I believe he's a free agent right now. I don't

838
00:38:53,680 --> 00:38:55,319
Speaker 3: think he's done. Okay, hear me out.

839
00:38:56,200 --> 00:38:58,520
Speaker 2: What's that age for Carson Wentz? Definitely north of thirty

840
00:38:58,600 --> 00:39:00,319
Speaker 2: right three two.

841
00:39:01,320 --> 00:39:06,680
Speaker 3: He is currently a free agent, I believe let's see, Oh, no,

842
00:39:07,200 --> 00:39:09,400
Speaker 3: he is signing with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers.

843
00:39:09,800 --> 00:39:10,719
Speaker 2: Is that what we have here?

844
00:39:10,880 --> 00:39:10,960
Speaker 5: No?

845
00:39:11,080 --> 00:39:12,560
Speaker 2: Well, why was he at the local Croaker?

846
00:39:12,920 --> 00:39:15,719
Speaker 3: I don't know this this side I might not trust.

847
00:39:16,760 --> 00:39:18,440
Speaker 3: I want clicked on the side about this. And then

848
00:39:18,440 --> 00:39:21,520
Speaker 3: I'm like, I'm not seeing an ESPN dot com.

849
00:39:21,080 --> 00:39:24,200
Speaker 2: Todd Bowles and Baker Mayfield having training campusigns of high school.

850
00:39:24,400 --> 00:39:27,040
Speaker 3: Yeah. I don think he's a free agent. I don't

851
00:39:27,040 --> 00:39:29,680
Speaker 3: know what this article is about. How he was Mahomes'

852
00:39:29,760 --> 00:39:33,279
Speaker 3: backup last year, I know, and honestly he I think

853
00:39:33,320 --> 00:39:36,080
Speaker 3: he is probably a one on the better side of backups.

854
00:39:36,080 --> 00:39:37,440
Speaker 3: You look at the other ones out there, you know,

855
00:39:37,600 --> 00:39:42,960
Speaker 3: Tyler Huntley and Teddy Bridgewater and CJ. Bethird.

856
00:39:43,800 --> 00:39:45,799
Speaker 2: Teddy Bridgewater's doing the high school thing, isn't it. I

857
00:39:45,840 --> 00:39:48,399
Speaker 2: know Evan Phillip Rivers in our high school kickoff here?

858
00:39:50,920 --> 00:39:52,279
Speaker 3: Do you welcome him back?

859
00:39:52,560 --> 00:39:53,359
Speaker 2: If we're not here?

860
00:39:53,480 --> 00:39:55,520
Speaker 3: If one of the Colts players goes down, well, the

861
00:39:55,520 --> 00:39:58,440
Speaker 3: Colts quarterbacks goes down, I can't interest you in Carson

862
00:39:58,560 --> 00:39:58,960
Speaker 3: wins Over.

863
00:39:59,680 --> 00:40:01,720
Speaker 2: I think I think Jim Mercy might have some words

864
00:40:01,760 --> 00:40:03,759
Speaker 2: for you from up yeah, up in the sky.

865
00:40:03,800 --> 00:40:05,480
Speaker 3: I'll say, you might come out the grave and be like,

866
00:40:05,480 --> 00:40:06,759
Speaker 3: oh no, this is not gonna happen.

867
00:40:06,840 --> 00:40:11,200
Speaker 2: No, that is not happening. Okay, sure, sure whatever. Colts

868
00:40:11,280 --> 00:40:14,200
Speaker 2: in Baltimore, they'll fly out there later today and then

869
00:40:14,280 --> 00:40:18,319
Speaker 2: joint practice coming up tomorrow. I did want to hit

870
00:40:18,360 --> 00:40:21,000
Speaker 2: just briefly on the national storyline, and again we will

871
00:40:21,040 --> 00:40:24,800
Speaker 2: recap what was just an awful scene frankly Layton Colts

872
00:40:24,800 --> 00:40:27,920
Speaker 2: practice yesterday here in a few minutes. But you know,

873
00:40:28,000 --> 00:40:33,600
Speaker 2: obviously the Michael Parsons, Terry McLaurin trade request, Michael Parson's

874
00:40:33,640 --> 00:40:35,720
Speaker 2: direct quotes if I don't want to be here anymore,

875
00:40:35,880 --> 00:40:41,480
Speaker 2: are really dominating the NFL storylines James. Oftentimes, when players

876
00:40:41,480 --> 00:40:47,200
Speaker 2: of this elk express similar views the question immediately they

877
00:40:47,239 --> 00:40:50,080
Speaker 2: fled your timeline, they fled my Yeah, and it's probably

878
00:40:50,080 --> 00:40:51,920
Speaker 2: happening in thirty one other.

879
00:40:51,920 --> 00:40:56,399
Speaker 3: Yeah, marketing literally in my real job. You know, hey,

880
00:40:57,120 --> 00:40:58,960
Speaker 3: you got a trade request for us. I'm like, I

881
00:40:59,000 --> 00:40:59,520
Speaker 3: really don't.

882
00:41:00,880 --> 00:41:03,200
Speaker 2: So what do he make from a realistic nature? Like,

883
00:41:03,320 --> 00:41:06,800
Speaker 2: is this something that the Colts should and take either

884
00:41:07,040 --> 00:41:10,279
Speaker 2: or take neither? If you would like, do you think

885
00:41:10,280 --> 00:41:13,680
Speaker 2: the Colts should be in the market, And again I

886
00:41:13,760 --> 00:41:18,880
Speaker 2: always ask for realistic nature. Should they realistically be pursuing

887
00:41:19,400 --> 00:41:21,360
Speaker 2: Terry McLaurin and or Michael Parsons.

888
00:41:22,320 --> 00:41:26,759
Speaker 3: So I'll start with this. I think Terry McLaurin is

889
00:41:26,800 --> 00:41:30,640
Speaker 3: more likely to potentially be moved than Michael Parsons. Michael

890
00:41:30,640 --> 00:41:34,839
Speaker 3: Parsons is a twenty six year old top three edge

891
00:41:34,920 --> 00:41:38,880
Speaker 3: rusher in the NFL, not name what Miles Garrett or TJ.

892
00:41:39,000 --> 00:41:42,759
Speaker 3: Watt like. He's elite and he's been elite for a

893
00:41:42,760 --> 00:41:47,239
Speaker 3: few years now, so he's he's very valuable. And as

894
00:41:47,320 --> 00:41:50,880
Speaker 3: much as you want to entertain the idea of him

895
00:41:50,920 --> 00:41:54,600
Speaker 3: being traded, you're the Colts, Colts, if you're the Cowboys,

896
00:41:55,080 --> 00:41:56,880
Speaker 3: you know he can request to trade. You could just

897
00:41:56,880 --> 00:42:00,000
Speaker 3: tell him I'll see tomorrow. That's how NFL contracts work.

898
00:42:00,040 --> 00:42:01,959
Speaker 3: He can be upset about it and all those things,

899
00:42:01,960 --> 00:42:05,520
Speaker 3: but he's not going anywhere. In my opinion, however, I

900
00:42:05,560 --> 00:42:08,000
Speaker 3: would lean if I'm the Colts and I'm trying to

901
00:42:08,000 --> 00:42:10,439
Speaker 3: look at this through a realistic lens, I would lean

902
00:42:10,680 --> 00:42:13,879
Speaker 3: more towards Terry mclauren because I feel like it will

903
00:42:13,960 --> 00:42:16,960
Speaker 3: be less of a cost to give up to get him.

904
00:42:17,280 --> 00:42:19,960
Speaker 3: For example, I'm not sure I would give up a

905
00:42:20,000 --> 00:42:23,439
Speaker 3: first round pick for Terry mclauren. If you go after

906
00:42:23,480 --> 00:42:25,880
Speaker 3: Michael Parsons, you're giving up probably two first round picks,

907
00:42:26,440 --> 00:42:30,480
Speaker 3: if not more compensation on top of that. So to me,

908
00:42:32,840 --> 00:42:35,160
Speaker 3: if there was a world where I thought, okay, could

909
00:42:35,200 --> 00:42:40,360
Speaker 3: I offload Alec Pierce or potentially Michael Piman Jr. To

910
00:42:40,440 --> 00:42:44,319
Speaker 3: bring in Terry mclauren, that to me seems like a

911
00:42:44,360 --> 00:42:47,160
Speaker 3: more realistic path than Michael Parsons, which is I mean

912
00:42:47,200 --> 00:42:51,040
Speaker 3: Heaven and Earth. And I debated this JAMV on Friday.

913
00:42:51,080 --> 00:42:53,520
Speaker 3: I believe Kevin because he was saying he believed that

914
00:42:53,560 --> 00:42:55,680
Speaker 3: if the Colts traded for Michael Parsons, it will be

915
00:42:55,680 --> 00:43:00,480
Speaker 3: a move to legitimize them. My counter to that is

916
00:43:00,520 --> 00:43:04,759
Speaker 3: that you only make that movie if you know for

917
00:43:04,840 --> 00:43:06,399
Speaker 3: sure your quarterback is a dude.

918
00:43:07,320 --> 00:43:10,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, That's That's where I'm at it. If you don't

919
00:43:10,880 --> 00:43:16,359
Speaker 2: have the answer at franchise quarterback, I largely think you're

920
00:43:16,360 --> 00:43:18,080
Speaker 2: frozen from doing these types of things.

921
00:43:18,960 --> 00:43:20,800
Speaker 3: But could I interest you in Sarry McLaurin because he

922
00:43:20,800 --> 00:43:23,560
Speaker 3: would help your quarterback situation in theory, I don't know.

923
00:43:23,920 --> 00:43:25,879
Speaker 2: But I just think a little. I think you're still

924
00:43:25,880 --> 00:43:28,600
Speaker 2: stuck in the same place of looking for that guy

925
00:43:29,440 --> 00:43:31,160
Speaker 2: and and today's.

926
00:43:30,719 --> 00:43:33,560
Speaker 3: Looking for the quarterback. You mean right right like that,

927
00:43:34,480 --> 00:43:37,759
Speaker 3: it's definitely Arry mclauren is that guy.

928
00:43:38,040 --> 00:43:40,680
Speaker 2: I mean it, you know, I I go back to

929
00:43:41,800 --> 00:43:44,640
Speaker 2: you know, when Buffalo drafted Josh Allen. They traded up

930
00:43:44,640 --> 00:43:47,080
Speaker 2: on two different occasions to get to number seven overall

931
00:43:47,120 --> 00:43:49,640
Speaker 2: to take Josh Allen. And if you were, certainly if

932
00:43:49,640 --> 00:43:52,520
Speaker 2: you were to do the Michael Parsons deal, or even

933
00:43:52,560 --> 00:43:54,360
Speaker 2: if you were going to dabble into Terry McLaurin, I

934
00:43:54,360 --> 00:43:57,960
Speaker 2: mean you're talking draft pick plus money, draft picks plus money.

935
00:43:58,760 --> 00:44:03,400
Speaker 2: How much does that hinder you from making a trade.

936
00:44:03,960 --> 00:44:05,600
Speaker 2: Or if all of a sudden you're a nine win

937
00:44:05,680 --> 00:44:11,000
Speaker 2: team but your quarterback play looks me again, then are

938
00:44:11,000 --> 00:44:13,600
Speaker 2: you just stuck in the teens without a first round pick?

939
00:44:13,600 --> 00:44:15,839
Speaker 2: If you're going to trade for a guy like Michael Parsons, right,

940
00:44:16,480 --> 00:44:18,120
Speaker 2: and let's say you give up your second round pick

941
00:44:18,160 --> 00:44:20,200
Speaker 2: for Terry McLaurin, are you just hoping and praying somebody

942
00:44:20,200 --> 00:44:24,479
Speaker 2: falls sixteen or seventeen or you know you don't again

943
00:44:24,520 --> 00:44:26,359
Speaker 2: have that second round pick. It's like you know, I

944
00:44:26,400 --> 00:44:28,880
Speaker 2: know the NFL, in the NBA, maybe it's not exactly

945
00:44:28,920 --> 00:44:30,960
Speaker 2: apples to apples, but you know, I think a big

946
00:44:31,000 --> 00:44:33,640
Speaker 2: reason why the Pacers were able to pivot so well

947
00:44:34,280 --> 00:44:37,279
Speaker 2: they had all that available to him to them. So yes,

948
00:44:37,360 --> 00:44:40,440
Speaker 2: they made the huge trade for player for player to

949
00:44:40,440 --> 00:44:42,759
Speaker 2: get I should say players for players to get Tyree

950
00:44:42,800 --> 00:44:44,960
Speaker 2: s Halliburn. But when all of a sudden the Pascal

951
00:44:45,000 --> 00:44:48,640
Speaker 2: Siakam thing was presented, they had all their first round

952
00:44:48,680 --> 00:44:52,239
Speaker 2: picks to be able to go ahead and make that

953
00:44:52,320 --> 00:44:56,080
Speaker 2: sort of move. I don't view the franchise in a

954
00:44:56,160 --> 00:45:00,359
Speaker 2: light where they're able to dip their toes into that water.

955
00:45:01,360 --> 00:45:03,360
Speaker 2: And I just don't think band aids work in the AFC.

956
00:45:04,239 --> 00:45:06,560
Speaker 2: I mean, I know I've done this exercise many times

957
00:45:06,560 --> 00:45:08,160
Speaker 2: on the show before, but we can go down the

958
00:45:08,200 --> 00:45:11,279
Speaker 2: list of AFC teams that feel like they've got their

959
00:45:11,360 --> 00:45:17,279
Speaker 2: quarterback right now. Yeah, and it's eight nine ten and

960
00:45:17,320 --> 00:45:20,560
Speaker 2: a lot of them are right with that. And I'm

961
00:45:20,600 --> 00:45:23,120
Speaker 2: not even including you know, what you know New England

962
00:45:23,160 --> 00:45:25,320
Speaker 2: might think of Drake May or what you know Tennessee

963
00:45:25,400 --> 00:45:27,719
Speaker 2: might think of cam Ward. I mean, if you just

964
00:45:27,840 --> 00:45:33,759
Speaker 2: look at Lamar and Burrow and Stroud and Josh Allen

965
00:45:33,800 --> 00:45:36,680
Speaker 2: obviously in Mahomes and Herbert. I mean that list is

966
00:45:36,719 --> 00:45:41,600
Speaker 2: a very impressive list, and so I as much as yes,

967
00:45:41,719 --> 00:45:44,160
Speaker 2: these players would be upgrades and would certainly help your

968
00:45:44,160 --> 00:45:48,160
Speaker 2: team at critical positions. I think when you don't have quarterback,

969
00:45:48,239 --> 00:45:52,080
Speaker 2: you're frozen from trying to entertain this stuff, which I

970
00:45:52,120 --> 00:45:54,240
Speaker 2: know is not the Madden video game you want to play,

971
00:45:54,440 --> 00:45:55,840
Speaker 2: but I think it's a reality you have to live in.

972
00:45:57,440 --> 00:46:02,040
Speaker 3: You do, you do, and honestly, it all comes back

973
00:46:02,080 --> 00:46:04,640
Speaker 3: to the quarterback. So often in this sport we talk

974
00:46:04,680 --> 00:46:09,080
Speaker 3: about defensive schemes and defensive units and skilled pets and players,

975
00:46:09,120 --> 00:46:12,239
Speaker 3: but it just comes down to often do you have

976
00:46:12,320 --> 00:46:14,520
Speaker 3: a guy that guy like you said in Capitol Letters,

977
00:46:14,600 --> 00:46:19,719
Speaker 3: Kevin under center throwing the rock and the teams that do.

978
00:46:20,080 --> 00:46:22,080
Speaker 3: For example, I believe Houston kind of was aggressive. I

979
00:46:22,160 --> 00:46:24,000
Speaker 3: want to say maybe last off season a year before

980
00:46:24,600 --> 00:46:26,719
Speaker 3: where they went out and got Stefan Diggs and they

981
00:46:26,760 --> 00:46:28,120
Speaker 3: you know, they tried to go get I think.

982
00:46:28,239 --> 00:46:30,959
Speaker 2: The win that even trading up for Will Anderson Junior.

983
00:46:31,040 --> 00:46:32,400
Speaker 2: You know, a couple, you get a.

984
00:46:32,480 --> 00:46:35,600
Speaker 3: Dude that quarterback you''re especially on a rookie deal, you're

985
00:46:35,640 --> 00:46:38,719
Speaker 3: willing to, you know, take those swings. But in the

986
00:46:38,800 --> 00:46:44,560
Speaker 3: Colts this case, it's been so convoluted with you know, injuries, inaccuracy,

987
00:46:44,600 --> 00:46:47,120
Speaker 3: the benching where you can you can't really be aggressive

988
00:46:47,920 --> 00:46:51,120
Speaker 3: like that with Anthony sort of in limbo as far

989
00:46:51,160 --> 00:46:53,439
Speaker 3: as being your franchise quarterback or not well.

990
00:46:53,480 --> 00:46:56,080
Speaker 2: And I also think James, you do see teams start

991
00:46:56,120 --> 00:46:59,120
Speaker 2: to plan ahead for this stuff, Like you know, Cleveland

992
00:46:59,239 --> 00:47:01,960
Speaker 2: last year, remember Jacksonville coming up to get Travis Hunter.

993
00:47:02,880 --> 00:47:05,680
Speaker 2: Cleveland gets the additional first round or for next year.

994
00:47:06,000 --> 00:47:08,680
Speaker 2: So now Cleveland could be looking at two top ten picks, yeah,

995
00:47:08,800 --> 00:47:12,800
Speaker 2: their own and then Jacksonville's. Remember late in round one

996
00:47:13,160 --> 00:47:15,799
Speaker 2: there was a surprising trade back in April of Atlanta

997
00:47:16,440 --> 00:47:19,880
Speaker 2: coming back into round one. They traded with the Rams.

998
00:47:19,880 --> 00:47:23,480
Speaker 2: Well what's the Rams thought process? Fine? Life after Matthew Stafford.

999
00:47:23,520 --> 00:47:23,719
Speaker 4: Yep.

1000
00:47:23,800 --> 00:47:26,040
Speaker 2: Now they have two first round picks for next year

1001
00:47:26,080 --> 00:47:28,239
Speaker 2: and what is supposed to be, you know, a very

1002
00:47:28,239 --> 00:47:31,000
Speaker 2: good quarterback draft class. So I think part of that

1003
00:47:31,440 --> 00:47:34,799
Speaker 2: is kind of where where it's played into as well.

1004
00:47:35,760 --> 00:47:40,960
Speaker 3: I would agree there. But as far as actual moves

1005
00:47:41,080 --> 00:47:44,640
Speaker 3: the Colts can make, do you think there is a

1006
00:47:44,640 --> 00:47:48,240
Speaker 3: possibility that we could see another potential free agency signing

1007
00:47:48,280 --> 00:47:50,720
Speaker 3: before the end of the summer. Is there any position,

1008
00:47:50,840 --> 00:47:53,720
Speaker 3: Kevin you're looking at to say maybe we can add

1009
00:47:53,760 --> 00:47:55,239
Speaker 3: just a little bit here, a little bit there, Because

1010
00:47:55,239 --> 00:48:01,160
Speaker 3: for me, I do think linebacker is one of or

1011
00:48:02,680 --> 00:48:06,560
Speaker 3: am I sold on what I've seen from Joe Bachi,

1012
00:48:06,640 --> 00:48:08,320
Speaker 3: who's had a good camp. I gotta give my credit

1013
00:48:09,239 --> 00:48:13,200
Speaker 3: Austin and Jake Cameron mcgron. A am I okay with

1014
00:48:13,239 --> 00:48:15,480
Speaker 3: that being my backup plan.

1015
00:48:15,440 --> 00:48:17,319
Speaker 2: Well, let's go to linebacker for a second, because I've

1016
00:48:17,360 --> 00:48:20,439
Speaker 2: he's on a couple different occasions here throughout the show.

1017
00:48:21,120 --> 00:48:25,760
Speaker 2: Walking into Grand Park, I'll speak for myself. The thought

1018
00:48:25,840 --> 00:48:30,319
Speaker 2: I think from me and I think definitely internally was

1019
00:48:30,400 --> 00:48:34,680
Speaker 2: Jalen Carlis as a starter next to Sire Franklin. Jalen Carlis,

1020
00:48:34,680 --> 00:48:38,600
Speaker 2: for those unfamiliar, fifth round pick two years ago, made

1021
00:48:38,600 --> 00:48:41,480
Speaker 2: the position switch from safety to linebacker in the NFL.

1022
00:48:42,320 --> 00:48:45,160
Speaker 2: Played you know, a decent amount for a Day three

1023
00:48:45,239 --> 00:48:47,560
Speaker 2: rookie last year, and I thought flashed a bit ej

1024
00:48:47,640 --> 00:48:50,120
Speaker 2: Speed now moves on to Houston. The thought is now

1025
00:48:50,200 --> 00:48:54,160
Speaker 2: Jalen Carlis becomes a starter. Jalen Carlis was taking some

1026
00:48:54,360 --> 00:48:57,480
Speaker 2: second team reps over the weekend. Wasn't out there yesterday

1027
00:48:57,880 --> 00:49:00,399
Speaker 2: and you mentioned Joe Bachi number forty eight for those

1028
00:49:00,440 --> 00:49:03,279
Speaker 2: that have been out at Grand Park. He picked? Was

1029
00:49:03,320 --> 00:49:05,680
Speaker 2: it Jones he picked on Saturday? I think it was

1030
00:49:05,719 --> 00:49:08,920
Speaker 2: in a seven on seven. He comes over from Cincinnati

1031
00:49:09,840 --> 00:49:13,160
Speaker 2: with obviously lou An Arumo knows the defense, knows the

1032
00:49:13,200 --> 00:49:16,360
Speaker 2: defense exactly, and he's gotten a ton of starting reps

1033
00:49:16,480 --> 00:49:20,120
Speaker 2: here without Zaire Franklin. Now Zaire is yet to play

1034
00:49:20,120 --> 00:49:22,760
Speaker 2: in the eleven on eleven periods. Maybe that happens tomorrow,

1035
00:49:22,800 --> 00:49:25,799
Speaker 2: but I guess to answer a question, yes, linebacker's one

1036
00:49:25,840 --> 00:49:28,560
Speaker 2: I definitely would be looking into. And I also sit

1037
00:49:28,640 --> 00:49:31,400
Speaker 2: here nine days into training camp thinking we might have

1038
00:49:31,440 --> 00:49:34,120
Speaker 2: an open starting job next to Zire Franklin, which I

1039
00:49:34,120 --> 00:49:36,560
Speaker 2: didn't think that would start a camp. And Carlis has

1040
00:49:36,560 --> 00:49:39,439
Speaker 2: been pretty quiet during camp. I don't think we've seen

1041
00:49:39,440 --> 00:49:42,520
Speaker 2: the amount of playmaking like we've seen from some other guys,

1042
00:49:42,560 --> 00:49:45,279
Speaker 2: so on the radar of kind of things. I'm now

1043
00:49:45,320 --> 00:49:47,600
Speaker 2: looking forward as we get into joint practices, as we

1044
00:49:47,640 --> 00:49:50,799
Speaker 2: get it in preseason games, as we start transition. Linebacker

1045
00:49:51,120 --> 00:49:54,160
Speaker 2: continues to be one, and you know Zaia's overall health.

1046
00:49:54,960 --> 00:49:57,040
Speaker 2: You could look at the Zaire thing one of two ways.

1047
00:49:57,080 --> 00:49:58,480
Speaker 2: One you can look at and say, well, he's never

1048
00:49:58,520 --> 00:50:02,000
Speaker 2: been hurt, so everything will be fine. Yeah, or you

1049
00:50:02,080 --> 00:50:03,359
Speaker 2: going out and say, this is the first time he's

1050
00:50:03,400 --> 00:50:05,399
Speaker 2: ever had surgery in the NFL. This is the first

1051
00:50:05,400 --> 00:50:08,439
Speaker 2: time he's ever missed three months in his NFL career. Right,

1052
00:50:08,920 --> 00:50:12,560
Speaker 2: he's nearing thirty. How does he look, you know coming

1053
00:50:12,600 --> 00:50:14,439
Speaker 2: off of that. So yes, to answer it, I would

1054
00:50:14,440 --> 00:50:17,000
Speaker 2: say linebacker and to.

1055
00:50:17,080 --> 00:50:19,719
Speaker 3: Kind of pivot a little bit. Talking to I ear.

1056
00:50:20,680 --> 00:50:23,200
Speaker 3: It was fascinating to hear him say what went into

1057
00:50:23,239 --> 00:50:27,760
Speaker 3: the decision to have the surgery? Because he referenced the

1058
00:50:27,960 --> 00:50:31,759
Speaker 3: Minnesota game that they played and I believe this was

1059
00:50:31,800 --> 00:50:34,160
Speaker 3: the twenty twenty two season, Kevin.

1060
00:50:34,200 --> 00:50:36,080
Speaker 2: Oh, I assumed it was Sunday night football this past

1061
00:50:36,040 --> 00:50:36,400
Speaker 2: Well was.

1062
00:50:36,360 --> 00:50:36,960
Speaker 3: It Sunday night?

1063
00:50:37,000 --> 00:50:37,120
Speaker 5: Oh?

1064
00:50:37,239 --> 00:50:39,200
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, it was. Actually, you know what, I completely

1065
00:50:39,200 --> 00:50:40,960
Speaker 3: forgot about the game. Actually, both again times they went

1066
00:50:41,000 --> 00:50:44,800
Speaker 3: to Minnesota, they were awful when it comes to the

1067
00:50:44,960 --> 00:50:46,919
Speaker 3: outcome of those games. So yes, I would I would

1068
00:50:46,920 --> 00:50:51,680
Speaker 3: imagine that is the game he's referencing, and yeah, exactly,

1069
00:50:51,800 --> 00:50:55,560
Speaker 3: And from the sounds of it, it bothered him a

1070
00:50:55,640 --> 00:50:58,759
Speaker 3: little bit more as the summer went on. So for

1071
00:50:58,800 --> 00:51:01,080
Speaker 3: those asking on, oh my gosh, he knew he needed

1072
00:51:01,120 --> 00:51:03,840
Speaker 3: surgery right away, why didn't he get it sooner? I

1073
00:51:03,880 --> 00:51:06,000
Speaker 3: think a lot of it was a pain tolerance thing,

1074
00:51:06,040 --> 00:51:08,040
Speaker 3: but also he had been playing through it and with

1075
00:51:08,080 --> 00:51:10,680
Speaker 3: it for a while. He made a joke yesterday and saying, man,

1076
00:51:10,680 --> 00:51:13,680
Speaker 3: if you all knew everything that these guys went through,

1077
00:51:14,360 --> 00:51:17,200
Speaker 3: all of us went through, you would have articles for days.

1078
00:51:17,560 --> 00:51:18,680
Speaker 3: And then I want to tell them, well, if you

1079
00:51:18,719 --> 00:51:20,799
Speaker 3: got you know, any more, you know, injuries you wanted

1080
00:51:20,800 --> 00:51:22,800
Speaker 3: to disclose, or you want to stitch on your teammates,

1081
00:51:22,840 --> 00:51:25,279
Speaker 3: feel free because we all, as we know Kevin is

1082
00:51:25,280 --> 00:51:27,040
Speaker 3: a running joke in the media room that every year

1083
00:51:27,400 --> 00:51:29,640
Speaker 3: at the end of the year we go over to

1084
00:51:29,680 --> 00:51:31,359
Speaker 3: the Forest Buckner and we say, hey, off the record,

1085
00:51:31,400 --> 00:51:33,239
Speaker 3: what are you dealing with? And he lets blah blah

1086
00:51:33,239 --> 00:51:36,919
Speaker 3: blah blah blah, and it'll have like eight sex regardless.

1087
00:51:37,200 --> 00:51:40,919
Speaker 2: But yeah, and South America, Yeah, that was as open

1088
00:51:40,960 --> 00:51:41,400
Speaker 2: as he's been.

1089
00:51:41,440 --> 00:51:44,400
Speaker 3: He went to Panama togainst you know, stem cells surgery

1090
00:51:44,640 --> 00:51:47,680
Speaker 3: for his ankle, but for Zayre's purposes. Yes, I wanted

1091
00:51:47,680 --> 00:51:50,759
Speaker 3: to make that clear that it wasn't like he neglected

1092
00:51:50,880 --> 00:51:52,479
Speaker 3: getting the surgery. I think it was like a last

1093
00:51:52,480 --> 00:51:54,239
Speaker 3: resort type of thing because he thought it would get

1094
00:51:54,280 --> 00:51:56,520
Speaker 3: better on its own, and it didn't. Into his credit,

1095
00:51:57,120 --> 00:51:59,440
Speaker 3: he's still in theory going to be available for the

1096
00:51:59,440 --> 00:51:59,840
Speaker 3: start of the.

1097
00:52:00,600 --> 00:52:02,799
Speaker 2: We'll get back into the quarterback combo here in just

1098
00:52:02,840 --> 00:52:06,359
Speaker 2: a second. A very important and needed bounce back day

1099
00:52:07,280 --> 00:52:09,960
Speaker 2: for Matthey Richardson in particular, and I thought there was

1100
00:52:09,960 --> 00:52:12,880
Speaker 2: a rookie that actually probably at his best practice so

1101
00:52:12,920 --> 00:52:14,440
Speaker 2: far off camp. Will do that here in just a second.

1102
00:52:14,480 --> 00:52:17,479
Speaker 2: But James, let's hit on what was certainly the scene

1103
00:52:17,520 --> 00:52:20,160
Speaker 2: of yesterday in such an unfortunate scene and really one

1104
00:52:20,160 --> 00:52:22,600
Speaker 2: of the more eerie scenes I've seen out at a

1105
00:52:22,600 --> 00:52:26,240
Speaker 2: cult training camp practice late in practice during a live

1106
00:52:26,560 --> 00:52:29,759
Speaker 2: tackling period, and for those kind of unfamiliar with this,

1107
00:52:30,640 --> 00:52:33,399
Speaker 2: Shane Stiken has done this probably I don't know, let's

1108
00:52:33,400 --> 00:52:36,520
Speaker 2: call it a handful of days here throughout camp where

1109
00:52:36,680 --> 00:52:39,759
Speaker 2: the third teamers they go live. Earlier in practice, actually,

1110
00:52:39,840 --> 00:52:42,200
Speaker 2: Riley Leonard led a touchdown drive during a live period,

1111
00:52:42,280 --> 00:52:46,200
Speaker 2: but savan Achmed, who is kind of a veteran running

1112
00:52:46,239 --> 00:52:49,640
Speaker 2: back fighting for a roster spot, he breaks one in

1113
00:52:49,680 --> 00:52:52,320
Speaker 2: the open field, and I would say he was probably

1114
00:52:52,360 --> 00:52:54,640
Speaker 2: about I don't know, maybe ten yards from the goal line,

1115
00:52:54,719 --> 00:52:57,000
Speaker 2: going down the sideline, and it looked like he was

1116
00:52:57,040 --> 00:53:01,400
Speaker 2: going to score an undrafted safety tray. Washington tries to

1117
00:53:01,440 --> 00:53:03,600
Speaker 2: tackle him, which again is allowed. You can take these

1118
00:53:03,600 --> 00:53:09,040
Speaker 2: guys to the ground. Jumps on Achmed's back and it

1119
00:53:09,120 --> 00:53:11,319
Speaker 2: kind of gets ridden frankly for about five or six

1120
00:53:11,400 --> 00:53:13,360
Speaker 2: yards and it got to the point, James where it

1121
00:53:13,440 --> 00:53:16,040
Speaker 2: turned into a little bit of slow motion and I thought,

1122
00:53:16,040 --> 00:53:18,600
Speaker 2: we're all waiting for him to let go. Yeah, I thought,

1123
00:53:18,640 --> 00:53:21,120
Speaker 2: watching myself, like, oh boy, how is this going to end?

1124
00:53:21,239 --> 00:53:25,200
Speaker 2: Because it was starting to get to the hip drop tackle,

1125
00:53:25,920 --> 00:53:29,640
Speaker 2: and unfortunately that's what it turned into. Washington took him

1126
00:53:29,640 --> 00:53:33,560
Speaker 2: to the ground and it was a horrific scene. The

1127
00:53:33,640 --> 00:53:37,400
Speaker 2: right leg injury labeled as a severe right leg injury

1128
00:53:37,840 --> 00:53:41,080
Speaker 2: by Shane Stike in very quickly the field. The crowd

1129
00:53:41,200 --> 00:53:44,120
Speaker 2: immediately silent and sadly, the only thing that could be

1130
00:53:44,160 --> 00:53:47,800
Speaker 2: heard was the scream, the very audible scream from Ahmed.

1131
00:53:47,840 --> 00:53:51,759
Speaker 2: Team came around him, cam bine him, it appeared to

1132
00:53:51,840 --> 00:53:54,640
Speaker 2: lead the team in a prayer. He was eventually I

1133
00:53:54,640 --> 00:53:57,279
Speaker 2: think air cast stretchered off. Looked like there was an

1134
00:53:57,320 --> 00:54:01,359
Speaker 2: ambulance coming to pick him up there thereafter. Again, Shane

1135
00:54:01,400 --> 00:54:05,120
Speaker 2: Stiken said after practice severe right league injury on that's

1136
00:54:06,239 --> 00:54:08,919
Speaker 2: just awful. And I guess I will say this, James,

1137
00:54:08,960 --> 00:54:11,319
Speaker 2: because you were out there at the practice. Last year

1138
00:54:11,800 --> 00:54:15,440
Speaker 2: we saw a little bit of a similar play from

1139
00:54:15,520 --> 00:54:17,960
Speaker 2: Nick Cross against Josh Downs.

1140
00:54:18,280 --> 00:54:22,080
Speaker 3: Yeah. Last year that cost I think Josh Downs the

1141
00:54:22,080 --> 00:54:24,160
Speaker 3: first two weeks of the season because h An.

1142
00:54:24,600 --> 00:54:26,319
Speaker 2: Cast him about a month or so. Yeah, I would

1143
00:54:26,320 --> 00:54:29,880
Speaker 2: say two things different from this play. One, that play

1144
00:54:30,120 --> 00:54:33,239
Speaker 2: with Cross was not a live tackling period, No, this

1145
00:54:33,600 --> 00:54:38,359
Speaker 2: was two. That play occurred a little bit more in

1146
00:54:38,400 --> 00:54:41,320
Speaker 2: the middle of the field like in the action.

1147
00:54:41,640 --> 00:54:44,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was a little bit more like bang bang

1148
00:54:44,320 --> 00:54:44,919
Speaker 3: type of dah.

1149
00:54:45,239 --> 00:54:47,359
Speaker 2: This one with docmed is again he's thirty yards down

1150
00:54:47,360 --> 00:54:49,200
Speaker 2: the field, he's borderline going to score.

1151
00:54:49,280 --> 00:54:51,000
Speaker 3: I believe he might have scored, you know, before the

1152
00:54:51,040 --> 00:54:53,520
Speaker 3: injury actually occurred. He was crossing the goal one at least.

1153
00:54:53,440 --> 00:54:55,840
Speaker 2: Or just to set all that up, Let's play the

1154
00:54:55,880 --> 00:54:58,760
Speaker 2: Sire Franklin clip and I'll let you react to it, James.

1155
00:54:58,800 --> 00:55:03,080
Speaker 2: But this was AYR. Franklin after practice yesterday in describing

1156
00:55:03,080 --> 00:55:05,120
Speaker 2: what he saw and sounded like he was one of

1157
00:55:05,120 --> 00:55:07,000
Speaker 2: the veteran leaders that Shane Sekin talked to you after

1158
00:55:07,040 --> 00:55:09,279
Speaker 2: the play about, you know, should they finish practice.

1159
00:55:09,520 --> 00:55:11,880
Speaker 6: I love Savon. I mean I've known Savan for about

1160
00:55:11,960 --> 00:55:13,560
Speaker 6: nine years, my knowing back when he was at U

1161
00:55:13,640 --> 00:55:16,120
Speaker 6: dub back when I was training in Seattle as a

1162
00:55:16,160 --> 00:55:22,600
Speaker 6: young pup. Extremely tough, you know, praying for him, loving

1163
00:55:22,600 --> 00:55:24,319
Speaker 6: on him. I'm an obviously shoot him a text. I

1164
00:55:24,320 --> 00:55:26,839
Speaker 6: know he's probably going through all kind of mental stuff

1165
00:55:26,920 --> 00:55:30,320
Speaker 6: right now. It's a tough situation. You know, young try me.

1166
00:55:30,880 --> 00:55:33,360
Speaker 6: He's competing for a job straight up, you know. So

1167
00:55:34,000 --> 00:55:36,279
Speaker 6: he's out here trying to compete and trying to be better.

1168
00:55:36,320 --> 00:55:39,400
Speaker 6: And you know, we're warriors on that field. When we

1169
00:55:39,440 --> 00:55:41,319
Speaker 6: step on that field, we understand what's what's what the

1170
00:55:41,320 --> 00:55:44,880
Speaker 6: possibilities are. Obviously we're a team, so we're trying to

1171
00:55:45,400 --> 00:55:47,360
Speaker 6: we're not trying to hurt each other. But at the

1172
00:55:47,360 --> 00:55:49,799
Speaker 6: same time we're competing. These guys are trying to feed

1173
00:55:49,840 --> 00:55:53,239
Speaker 6: their family. So it's a part of the game. But

1174
00:55:53,280 --> 00:55:57,239
Speaker 6: definitely a tough break for Zevon. Definitely praying for him.

1175
00:55:58,920 --> 00:56:03,479
Speaker 3: I couldn't you don't necessarily fathom what Savannah is going through.

1176
00:56:03,520 --> 00:56:07,360
Speaker 3: And obviously I've never played football at that level to

1177
00:56:07,719 --> 00:56:09,520
Speaker 3: really sit up here and say, oh my gosh, I

1178
00:56:09,920 --> 00:56:12,600
Speaker 3: can understand completely where they're coming from his teammates. But

1179
00:56:13,120 --> 00:56:16,839
Speaker 3: I thought what Zayer said was pretty you know, empathetic

1180
00:56:17,760 --> 00:56:19,759
Speaker 3: and also kind of shows, you know, the brotherhood of

1181
00:56:19,840 --> 00:56:23,759
Speaker 3: the NFL, of this game that they play. And I

1182
00:56:23,800 --> 00:56:28,239
Speaker 3: thought it was interesting and also fitting that Zayer would

1183
00:56:28,239 --> 00:56:31,759
Speaker 3: also extend some grace to Trede Washington because keep in

1184
00:56:31,760 --> 00:56:36,879
Speaker 3: mind those live periods, those reps. The reason why Trede

1185
00:56:36,920 --> 00:56:39,480
Speaker 3: Washington actually went that hard, I believe in that moment

1186
00:56:40,160 --> 00:56:42,680
Speaker 3: was because every little thing counts, And I think Zayer

1187
00:56:42,760 --> 00:56:45,640
Speaker 3: is a perfect person to talk to and allude to

1188
00:56:45,880 --> 00:56:49,560
Speaker 3: in regard to that Kevin, because this is someone who

1189
00:56:49,640 --> 00:56:52,399
Speaker 3: may not have had the opportunity to become last year

1190
00:56:52,440 --> 00:56:55,040
Speaker 3: a second team All Pro if he didn't get those

1191
00:56:55,040 --> 00:56:58,439
Speaker 3: developmental reps years ago as a seventh round pick, trying

1192
00:56:58,440 --> 00:57:00,000
Speaker 3: to make the roster, trying to make a name for him.

1193
00:57:00,400 --> 00:57:04,719
Speaker 3: So you know, if people are upset about the live

1194
00:57:04,800 --> 00:57:08,520
Speaker 3: tackling period, it's like, well, you know, these guys need

1195
00:57:08,560 --> 00:57:11,400
Speaker 3: that to showcase what they can do. And without that

1196
00:57:11,480 --> 00:57:13,640
Speaker 3: you wouldn't see some of the underdog sort of su

1197
00:57:13,680 --> 00:57:16,400
Speaker 3: sex stories that you've had. Now, No, I'm on a

1198
00:57:16,400 --> 00:57:18,760
Speaker 3: tangent here, but that's one of the reasons why you're

1199
00:57:18,800 --> 00:57:21,520
Speaker 3: talking to some of the guys about the NFL possibly

1200
00:57:21,560 --> 00:57:23,880
Speaker 3: shortened the preseason. It's like, well, if you shorten the preseason,

1201
00:57:24,240 --> 00:57:26,840
Speaker 3: all the underdogs, all the guys that might be diamonds

1202
00:57:26,880 --> 00:57:29,240
Speaker 3: and the roughs, they'll have less opportunities to kind of

1203
00:57:29,240 --> 00:57:32,000
Speaker 3: be that person. And so again, unfortunate to play yesterday

1204
00:57:32,040 --> 00:57:35,160
Speaker 3: with Trade Washington and Savann. But at the same time,

1205
00:57:36,880 --> 00:57:38,720
Speaker 3: I don't think that like this should be a referendum

1206
00:57:38,720 --> 00:57:40,920
Speaker 3: on like, oh my gosh, we should never tackle again

1207
00:57:41,120 --> 00:57:43,600
Speaker 3: in live periods or Charlie asked.

1208
00:57:43,400 --> 00:57:46,600
Speaker 2: If you should cut him Trey Washington, would you cut

1209
00:57:46,680 --> 00:57:51,080
Speaker 2: him over that play?

1210
00:57:51,720 --> 00:57:54,760
Speaker 3: I think I would have to sit down after my

1211
00:57:55,320 --> 00:57:59,040
Speaker 3: anger or just frustration had, you know, dispersed, because in

1212
00:57:59,080 --> 00:58:01,040
Speaker 3: the moment I was definitely say and cut him. In

1213
00:58:01,640 --> 00:58:03,880
Speaker 3: the moment, I'm like, just get off the field, what

1214
00:58:03,920 --> 00:58:06,520
Speaker 3: are you doing? But now you know, I haven't slept

1215
00:58:06,560 --> 00:58:09,440
Speaker 3: on it myself. This is me personally, James Boyd. I

1216
00:58:09,480 --> 00:58:11,440
Speaker 3: do feel for him. I understand he's a rookie. He's

1217
00:58:11,440 --> 00:58:13,640
Speaker 3: coming from a level where they allow that kind of tackle.

1218
00:58:14,440 --> 00:58:17,880
Speaker 3: So honestly, it would be a knock on him, but

1219
00:58:17,960 --> 00:58:19,920
Speaker 3: it wouldn't be, in my opinion, something where I'm like,

1220
00:58:19,920 --> 00:58:22,040
Speaker 3: you got to just get out of my sight. I

1221
00:58:22,080 --> 00:58:24,600
Speaker 3: brought him in for a reason. I want to see

1222
00:58:24,600 --> 00:58:27,240
Speaker 3: how you perform. Can you bounce back from this? And honestly,

1223
00:58:27,760 --> 00:58:30,040
Speaker 3: you know, it was a long start for you to

1224
00:58:30,040 --> 00:58:31,960
Speaker 3: make the roster anyway. But I don't know if I

1225
00:58:31,960 --> 00:58:32,920
Speaker 3: necessarily cut him for that.

1226
00:58:33,760 --> 00:58:36,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think I would either. Yeah, they're all

1227
00:58:36,600 --> 00:58:39,600
Speaker 2: emotion of watching that unfold yesterday, and you had fans

1228
00:58:39,680 --> 00:58:43,080
Speaker 2: chirping at him. Frankly, right after that play happened, Chris

1229
00:58:43,120 --> 00:58:45,000
Speaker 2: Bauer did go over to him, it looked like pretty

1230
00:58:45,080 --> 00:58:48,160
Speaker 2: quickly right after the play happened. I assume some sort

1231
00:58:48,160 --> 00:58:50,160
Speaker 2: of consoling. I think there were some veteran defenders that

1232
00:58:50,240 --> 00:58:52,640
Speaker 2: went over. I mean he stayed knelt on that sideline

1233
00:58:52,640 --> 00:58:54,919
Speaker 2: for a while, like even when they restart, he knows,

1234
00:58:55,160 --> 00:58:57,120
Speaker 2: he knows, Yeah, he knows full well. I thought though

1235
00:58:57,120 --> 00:58:58,960
Speaker 2: the Zaire clip, I wanted to play that for a reason.

1236
00:58:59,000 --> 00:59:01,120
Speaker 2: You know, I feel like Zaira was a seventh round

1237
00:59:01,120 --> 00:59:02,880
Speaker 2: pick out of Syracuse, so at one point he was

1238
00:59:02,920 --> 00:59:07,040
Speaker 2: in Trey Washington shoes. I think it's the very difficult dynamic,

1239
00:59:07,160 --> 00:59:08,880
Speaker 2: and you know, I think you bring up a good

1240
00:59:08,880 --> 00:59:11,880
Speaker 2: point undrafted kid from college. You know, again, Nick Cross

1241
00:59:12,000 --> 00:59:14,600
Speaker 2: wasn't undrafted, you know when that happened last year, and

1242
00:59:14,600 --> 00:59:18,200
Speaker 2: that wasn't even a live tackling period. So so far,

1243
00:59:18,320 --> 00:59:20,800
Speaker 2: obviously we've seen nothing from a those points.

1244
00:59:21,000 --> 00:59:24,040
Speaker 3: Again there you would never see a lot of the

1245
00:59:24,120 --> 00:59:25,160
Speaker 3: underdog stories.

1246
00:59:25,200 --> 00:59:26,880
Speaker 2: Third teamers get three to five reps.

1247
00:59:26,600 --> 00:59:29,080
Speaker 3: Every Pyeah, so they need that. It is just, you know,

1248
00:59:29,360 --> 00:59:32,040
Speaker 3: a very poor decision and obviously a very ugly outcome