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Speaker 1: Just watch up with the guns. They'll get you.

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Speaker 1: My name is Nigel Jason Hammer. Right over there are

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Speaker 1: also joining us live in studio, The Gun Guy. Guy.

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Speaker 1: Rayelford hosts of The Gun Guy Show Saturdays here on

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Speaker 1: Hammer. We have the Gun Guy here for two segments.

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Speaker 2: Where do you want to start?

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Speaker 3: Let's start with the uh warning from state police officers

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Speaker 3: here in Indiana about AI hoaxes and these stupid social

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Speaker 3: media challenges which could ultimately lead to somebody being shot.

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Speaker 2: Guy, there's just no question you guys, and I talked

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Speaker 2: about this some on my show, but I'm really glad

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Speaker 2: we're gonna have that conversation here too with your audience,

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Speaker 2: because this is so scary to me. There is apparently

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Speaker 2: a TikTok challenge that's going around and it's now in Indiana.

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Speaker 2: This was reported down in southern Indiana and it's spreading

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Speaker 2: on TikTok, which is kids while you know, videoing each other.

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Speaker 2: Of course, since it's all for TikTok, we'll dress up,

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Speaker 2: put masks on, and go up and ring people's doorbells,

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Speaker 2: then kick in their doors while aimed with airsoft guns.

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Speaker 2: And now, if you know about airsoft, they shoot a

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Speaker 2: little soft baby. They're very popular toys. Nothing wrong with

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Speaker 2: them as toys. But the idea is to kick or

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Speaker 2: kick in someone's door and then when they respond, you

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Speaker 2: shoot them with your airsoft gun. Laugh, all of which

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Speaker 2: is videotape. You run away and posted on the video

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Speaker 2: and all your friends think you're awesome.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we had a story about this last week, right,

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Speaker 1: And I feel like situations like that would be vastly

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Speaker 1: different if somebody kicked in the residence of one guy Relford.

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Speaker 2: Well and me or you guysbody, I mean, you know,

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Speaker 2: in Indiana and listen, the law of Indiana and I

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Speaker 2: did a deep drill on this on my show, but

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Speaker 2: succinctly said, the law of Indiana says that I can

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Speaker 2: use reasonable force, including deadly force, to prevent or terminate

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Speaker 2: an unlawful entry into my home. So let me just

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Speaker 2: tell you, you kicked my door in in the middle of

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Speaker 2: the night, gun or no gun, toy or no toy,

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Speaker 2: You're getting shot. And that's true of millions of homes

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Speaker 2: all across the state. And what kind of an idiot

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Speaker 2: to think this is funny and you're and this isn't

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Speaker 2: going to end in tragic consequences.

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Speaker 3: And you know what sucks, guy, there are people, there

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Speaker 3: are journalists in the city that if that situation played out,

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Speaker 3: would make you the bad guy here.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, look, look, look look at the you know, evil

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Speaker 2: gun owner, you know who's looking for an excuse to

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Speaker 3: You shot an unarmed kid. Yeah, that would be the headline.

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Speaker 2: And by the way, I mean, you know these airsoft

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Speaker 2: doorbell before your door comes flying in. You don't distinguish

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Speaker 2: that between a real gun and a fake gun, And frankly,

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Speaker 2: it doesn't make any difference because they don't need to

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Speaker 2: don't need to fear getting shot getting hurt. I can

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Speaker 2: use deadly force. That's why we call it the castle doctrine.

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Speaker 2: I can simply protect my castle and use deadly force

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Speaker 2: to prevent an unlawful entry into my home. So the

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Speaker 2: gun is irrelevant, and armed unarmed is irrelevant. You kick

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Speaker 2: in my door, I can shoot you. Now. Do I

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Speaker 2: want to shoot one of these idiot kids. Of course not.

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Speaker 3: There was another story Nige. We talked about this where

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Speaker 3: it's a different social media challenge, but kids are creating

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Speaker 3: something they could make off one of these AI apps. Sure,

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Speaker 3: the stupid silly crap that I do, you know sometimes

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Speaker 3: this is from the ring camera. There's somebody in the house.

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Speaker 3: Oh man, and what if somebody comes down the stairs.

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Speaker 3: Guns are blazing first and there's just some kid in

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Speaker 1: Yeah now, and.

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Speaker 2: Listen, shoot no, shoot. This visions is something I've done

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Speaker 3: So Don Levin used to have a program on CNN

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Speaker 3: calling him laman. He came up this past weekend and

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Speaker 3: says that quote, black and brown people need to arm

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Speaker 2: Guy Relford. Yeah, well, when I saw this and listen,

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Speaker 2: am I in favor of black and brown people exercising

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Speaker 2: their Second Amendment rights hundred percent? Absolutely, no question, absolutely,

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Speaker 3: There's an organization Black Guns Matter, absolutely.

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Speaker 2: And I'm friends with those guys and we talk all

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Speaker 2: time he has an opportunity, and he's been leading that charge,

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Speaker 3: Out, there's so much hypocrisy when it comes to ice.

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Speaker 3: John Cusack. I can't believe we've got these massed lunatics,

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Speaker 3: But yet they didn't say anything when Antifa were burning

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Speaker 2: Oh no, And this has been going on for a

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Speaker 2: long time, I mean over the weekend, right, Yeah, I

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Speaker 2: mean I remember posts from you know, every town for guns.

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Speaker 2: People go on their their social media sites and say, well,

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Speaker 2: shoot them. And I'm going hold on your whole platforms,

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Speaker 2: you're concerned about gun violence quote unquote, and you're going

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Speaker 2: You know, people are saying, well, he deserved it because

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Speaker 2: and they're celebrating the fact that someone shot him with

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Speaker 3: Oh, there were a number of people celebrating, oh past weekend.

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Speaker 2: And it still goes on. You guys were just talking

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Speaker 2: about some of the so called No King's protests across

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Speaker 1: And visceral hatred for their opponents, for people they disagree with.

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Speaker 2: And violent hatred. Yeah, and violent hatred celebrates quote unquote

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Speaker 2: gun violence. And these are supposedly the people calling for

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Speaker 2: restrictions on access to guns. That's why the hypocrisy is

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Speaker 2: just beyond what we can even define.

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Speaker 3: And that was a Chicago elementary school teacher that you're

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Speaker 3: talking about, guy that was doing the gun gesture to

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Speaker 3: her neck to somebody that had a Charlie Kirk's shirt

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Speaker 2: Yeah, how'd you like your kids sitting in her classroom?

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Speaker 2: You know, so many hours every week.

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Speaker 3: And because it's Chicago, nothing's going.

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Speaker 2: To happen to her exactly right.

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Speaker 3: If somebody wants to reach out to you, if they

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Speaker 3: want to hire you, if they've got questions, where can

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Speaker 2: Come to me on Twitter, give me a follow while

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Speaker 2: you're there. It's just at Guy Ralford on Twitter. Got

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Speaker 2: you the best, Thanks brother, Thanks guys