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Speaker 7: Good morning, it's Tuesday, you wake up. The Indianapolis Colts

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Speaker 7: not much happening out at West fifty six yesterday, Kevin,

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Speaker 1: We were talking about opening line yesterday.

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Speaker 7: The Colts are fourteen and a half point home favorites

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Speaker 7: All right, last night doubleheader on Monday Night Football to

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Speaker 7: the Detroit Lions got a great performance from Jamier Gibbs,

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Speaker 7: All right, let's go to Major League Baseball last night,

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Speaker 7: Game seven of the American League Championship Series, Mariners on

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Speaker 2: I mean, you get the Rodriguez big dumper home runs,

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Speaker 7: That ankle injury, Caitlin Clark said the worst she's ever suffered.

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Speaker 1: Perhaps I believe she she being. Stephanie White spoke to

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Speaker 7: We certainly do. NBA does open up tonight as Kevin

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Speaker 5: Vin, I'm already annoyed how many streaming services you need

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Speaker 1: I was just gonna say that, Mark, Yes, so.

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Speaker 8: This is all?

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Speaker 2: Matthew personally, but I've heard nothing but unbelievable things about

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Speaker 2: him as as a human, as a basketball coach. So

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Speaker 2: best of the Indiana State community and certainly Matthew Graves

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Speaker 2: and his you know, effort to get back on the sidelines.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, that is I'll tell you first, that scary stuff

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Speaker 7: when they have to start working on your insides right there.

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Speaker 7: So we certainly hope that he's going to be okay

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Speaker 7: moving forward, all right, coming up at eight o'clock conversation

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Speaker 7: with Rick Carlisle to kick things off for the twenty

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Speaker 7: five twenty six NBA season. We'll be talking colts in

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Speaker 7: the nine o'clock era as well with Joel a. Erkson.

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Speaker 7: So it's going to be a big busy morning here.

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Speaker 7: I'm ninety three five and one to seventy five the

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Speaker 7: Fan can't wait to spend it with you. Two three, nine,

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Speaker 7: ten seventy is how you get back at us. Good

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Speaker 7: Tuesday morning, Welcome into the Fan Morning Show. Rick Carlisle

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Speaker 7: coming your way at eight o'clock. The guys will have

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Speaker 7: a conversation with him about the upcoming NBA season. We'll

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Speaker 7: check out some of the texts that people are sending

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Speaker 7: in on this Tuesday morning. This is an anonymous one.

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Speaker 7: I like this though, for both of you guys. Just

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Speaker 7: had an epiphany I haven't heard discussed. Why don't we

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Speaker 7: trade Alec Pearson maybe either Quitty pay or a lat

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Speaker 7: To as well, for a top five or ten edge

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Speaker 7: rusher that could be available. James, you wrote an article

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Speaker 7: in The Athletic today about going all in if you're

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Speaker 7: the Colts. Are we starting to look or think about

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Speaker 7: things like that as we move forward?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that article was from yesterday, but it's something I'd

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Speaker 1: definitely want to revisit more this week, especially being two

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Speaker 1: weeks away from the trade deadline. But I will say

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Speaker 1: this to that question, I immediately went deaf as soon

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Speaker 1: as you said Alec Pierce. He's not going anywhere. He

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Speaker 1: is arguably their best receiver this year. So I do

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Speaker 1: think there is some players Adie Mitchell or somebody else

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Speaker 1: you can look at two package to try to go

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Speaker 1: get someone. But also if you're going to get edge

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Speaker 1: rusher at the deadline, I also don't think it'll be

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Speaker 1: like a top five guy at that position, because those

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Speaker 1: guys won are huge contracts, you probably want to try

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Speaker 1: to get somebody who's you know, mid tier proven. Trey

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Speaker 1: Henderson is somebody that obviously comes to mind because he's

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Speaker 1: an expiring contract. But I do think that that big

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Speaker 1: win for the Bengals last week maybe changed things for

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Speaker 1: their future at the deadline. So that's kind of where

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Speaker 1: I'm at with it. But Alec Pierce trade, Oh no,

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Speaker 1: absolutely not.

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Speaker 7: The question remains though, do you think Chris Ballard would

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Speaker 7: possibly do something coming off an offseason where he was

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Speaker 7: very aggressive and here there are six and one scored

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Speaker 7: more points than anybody in the in the league, but

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Speaker 7: defense seems to be a problem. Uh, if you're looking

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Speaker 7: long term and you have big aspirations, what do you

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Speaker 7: think that What do you think happens, especially with new ownership.

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Speaker 7: Does it change the entire dynamic?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a great question. I mean I think they should.

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Speaker 2: You know, Ballart obviously changed his tune you know, back

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Speaker 2: in free agency, very much needed and I think you're

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Speaker 2: reaping some of the benefits of that.

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Speaker 5: Now this is a little different.

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Speaker 2: You know, you obviously would be partying ways with another

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Speaker 2: draft pick, which you know, for Chris Ballard, that's you know,

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Speaker 2: a little bit children like in how he likes to build.

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Speaker 9: Uh.

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Speaker 2: But to your point, Jeff, they've never been in the

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Speaker 2: situation under him, and we know past rush means a

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Speaker 2: lot to him as well, So I think you should.

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Speaker 2: You know, I probably am with James a little bit

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Speaker 2: more that that trade idea sounds a little bit more

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Speaker 2: Madden Video gaming to me than anything. I think you

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Speaker 2: got to be realistic and kind of a middle round

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Speaker 2: pick and you're probably not gonna get some do that

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Speaker 2: has you know, a slew of twelve SAX seasons on

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Speaker 2: his resume, But just offer some juice to a group

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Speaker 2: that I think really really needs it right now. If

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Speaker 2: you look at the last month, I want to say,

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Speaker 2: opposing quarterbacks are average a like three thirty against the Colts,

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Speaker 2: three thirty five maybe against the Colts. If you go

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Speaker 2: back these last four games, it's the second worst mark

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Speaker 2: in the NFL this season if you look at any

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Speaker 2: four game stretch. So you know, I think you got

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Speaker 2: to live in reality with you know how the last

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Speaker 2: month has been for this passing defense, and for me,

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Speaker 2: your pass rush can impact that more than coverage. You

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Speaker 2: can coverage wise, I think you can talk yourself into Okay,

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Speaker 2: at various Ward's going to come back at some point

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Speaker 2: this season. You know, we'll see if Jalen Jones ever happens.

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Speaker 2: I don't see any of those names though necessarily at

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Speaker 2: pass rusher popping up, so that's probably why I would

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Speaker 2: entertain it as well.

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Speaker 7: I'm just curious how much of those big yardage numbers,

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Speaker 7: and those are huge yardage numbers, by the way, how

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Speaker 7: much of that is chalked up to a couple of

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Speaker 7: these games just garbage time where teams are just trying

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Speaker 7: to throw the ball over the field to keep up.

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't put much stock into that at all. Honestly,

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Speaker 1: I thought the Chargers were in that game until the

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Speaker 1: Forest Buckner and got that sack on their last drive

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Speaker 1: to kind of push them back, and then Zaia Franklin

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Speaker 1: made that great play down the middle of the field

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Speaker 1: on lab McConkey for the pass breakup, and they ultimately

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Speaker 1: forced turnover on downs. But if you look at what

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Speaker 1: the charge were able to do in that second half,

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Speaker 1: I mean, the Colts couldn't stop them at all, and

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Speaker 1: in a fourteen point loss. Now, give credit where credit

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Speaker 1: is due, the defense forced two turnovers in the red zone.

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Speaker 1: So Grover Stewart and Nick Cross deserve a ton of

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Speaker 1: praise for that, because ultimately, I think in this league

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Speaker 1: turnovers determined a lot of who wins and who loses.

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Speaker 1: But no, I am not convinced that this was just

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Speaker 1: garbage time. No, these teams are going out here and

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Speaker 1: beating you. And if you look back at the Arizona game,

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Speaker 1: that wasn't garbage time either. They went down the field

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Speaker 1: and nearly beat you on a fourth down, you know,

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Speaker 1: last second pass. So I think they definitely need to

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Speaker 1: be much better when it comes to pass defense.

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Speaker 2: James, you bring up the Buckner play plays probably plural.

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Speaker 2: He's so good, he the game, so good, a play

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Speaker 2: that Jeff, you and I should have mentioned yesterday and

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Speaker 2: we did not, and was such a play that if

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Speaker 2: it goes the other way, fans are just ripping this player,

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Speaker 2: because I would argue he's the most ripped cult player

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Speaker 2: maybe not named Dadi Mitchell. How about thirty yards down

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Speaker 2: the field in coverage Zia Franklin on Lad McConkie on

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Speaker 2: that third and twenty two. That was play number on

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Speaker 2: nineteen of the drive, twenty of the drive. Zara Franklin

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Speaker 2: e'ts someven out. The dude plays every snap, and yes,

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Speaker 2: has this season not been at the level that I

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Speaker 2: think maybe you would like it to be. Yeah, I

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Speaker 2: think that's fair. But what a big time play. I mean,

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Speaker 2: that is a dream for Justin Herbert. I get my

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Speaker 2: best white out on a linebacker thirty yards down the

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Speaker 2: field on a third and a million. I mean, that

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Speaker 2: is a you couldn't have asked for a better matchup there.

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Speaker 2: And there's Franklin not panicking, not committee a penalty, looking

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Speaker 2: like a dB frankly and making a great play on

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Speaker 2: the ball to knock it away. And if they score

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Speaker 2: there one potession game, who knows three point thirty to go?

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Speaker 5: Yeah to James's point.

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Speaker 2: One score game, they might do the weird thing that

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Speaker 2: teams sometimes do.

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Speaker 1: They go for two.

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Speaker 2: Initially, they maybe try to cut it to six there

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Speaker 2: right there, and now the pressure is really on the Colts.

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Speaker 2: They still have had two timeouts the Chargers and the

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Speaker 2: two minute warning. Big time play from Zire Franklin and

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Speaker 2: really a pretty unique play for a linebacker to be

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Speaker 2: that far down the field. Play nineteen of the drive,

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Speaker 2: play whatever seventy of the game. Probably for Zaire and

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Speaker 2: he just steps up and has a huge, huge pass

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Speaker 2: pass deflection.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, and that you're right. We didn't talk about that

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Speaker 7: a little bit yesterday, and that's a huge play for

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Speaker 7: a guy that has been criticized a lot this year.

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Speaker 7: And it's funny. We'll hear some sound later on today.

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Speaker 7: But I was listening to Shane Steichen on Colts Round

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Speaker 7: Table last night. He kind of seems okay with where

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Speaker 7: the defense and the rush if the pass was just

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Speaker 7: at this point in time. He talked about all the

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Speaker 7: pressures they got and how that caused Justin Herbert to

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Speaker 7: make some misson in that football game.

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Speaker 1: Well, I'll say this love shame, but he says a

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Speaker 1: lot of things I would imagine differently behind closed doors.

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Speaker 1: And when has he ever said anything that is remotely

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Speaker 1: controversial when it comes to his team or what they

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Speaker 1: might upgrade at. I was asking him yesterday about the

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Speaker 1: trade deadline. He gave a typical coach answer, Oh, I'll

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Speaker 1: leave that to the GM. You know, he always going

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Speaker 1: to get better. But yeah, I'm not surprised he said that.

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Speaker 1: But internally, I would imagine the conversation between him and

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Speaker 1: Lou and Rumo is different.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he occasionally does this where publicly James he downplays things, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: which he should.

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Speaker 1: I mean I wouldn't go out there like, oh man,

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Speaker 1: I past us stake.

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Speaker 4: No.

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Speaker 2: I mean I think you can walk a little bit

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Speaker 2: of a line of hey, we need to get better there,

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Speaker 2: you know, something along those lines where you don't have

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Speaker 2: to call individually call out guys. But you would be

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Speaker 2: naive to think that right now, with the Colts are

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Speaker 2: getting defensively from that area, is playoff worthy or however

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Speaker 2: you want.

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Speaker 7: To view it.

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Speaker 2: As you play some better quarterbacks on the schedule, there

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Speaker 2: and actions will speak louder than those words and actions

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Speaker 2: will happen, you know what, two weeks from today or

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Speaker 2: within the next two weeks, I should say, NFL trade

622
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Speaker 2: deadline fourteen days away.

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Speaker 7: So they've got some time and maybe they look and

624
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Speaker 7: they see what's going on against Tennessee and maybe they

625
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Speaker 7: want to see it. Don Look, if there's ever a

626
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Speaker 7: team to dominate, there's a reason they're a fourteen and

627
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Speaker 7: a half point favorite. This might be the time to

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Speaker 7: pin your ears back and go for it and see

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Speaker 7: what you can really do.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but I feel like we had the conversation last

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Speaker 1: week with the Chargers hits every week. I mean they

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Speaker 1: had no offensive linemen that were I mean they had

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Speaker 1: down several starters, down several backups, and I believe in

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Speaker 1: the first series of the game, Kevin one of their

635
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Speaker 1: linement went down then, So to not have more pressure

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Speaker 1: on Justin Herbert throughout that game, I think it's a

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Speaker 1: bit concerning.

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Speaker 7: Now.

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Speaker 1: I will say to Forest Buckner was absolutely dominant, but

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Speaker 1: I feel like he's been the only consistent guy who's

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Speaker 1: able to get pressure on the quarterback. And as you

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Speaker 1: look at some of the advanced numbers or just use

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Speaker 1: your general eyes, he gets double more than anybody. And

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Speaker 1: I think you do that because one he's a great player,

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Speaker 1: but two you're not worried abou anybody else getting the quarterback.

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Speaker 5: I would like the pass rush to get better. I

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Speaker 5: would like it to get better in a hurry, especially

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Speaker 5: with the Week nine opponent coming off. I would like

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Speaker 5: to bolt to tee off on their quarterback, who I

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Speaker 5: will not name, who's Week nine mark the Pittsburgh Steelers.

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Speaker 5: What did you say, Sunday Night Football is this week

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Speaker 5: Sunday Night.

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Speaker 7: Football is it is going to be the uh.

654
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Speaker 8: Steelers.

655
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Speaker 1: That's a dream matchup.

656
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Speaker 10: For you.

657
00:29:18,680 --> 00:29:24,400
Speaker 1: That's a dream match. We talked about it yesterday. That's

658
00:29:24,440 --> 00:29:25,280
Speaker 1: the meteor game.

659
00:29:26,160 --> 00:29:27,560
Speaker 7: Yeah for a tie.

660
00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:30,320
Speaker 5: I've never been more of a Mark more the button

661
00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:33,560
Speaker 5: for the meteorologist. I'm like, do we have any like meteorites,

662
00:29:34,320 --> 00:29:38,800
Speaker 5: comets coming through? Can we have a dinosaur situation happen?

663
00:29:38,960 --> 00:29:42,240
Speaker 1: What are we doing here over that man?

664
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Speaker 8: Man?

665
00:29:43,080 --> 00:29:44,400
Speaker 5: At least the velociraptor.

666
00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:47,880
Speaker 7: You realized I had to actually say the names of

667
00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:49,560
Speaker 7: the teams. He was not going to say the names

668
00:29:49,560 --> 00:29:50,080
Speaker 7: of those teams.

669
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Speaker 5: That's a disgusting I mean, it is going to be

670
00:29:52,240 --> 00:29:55,360
Speaker 5: a hate watch. I'm going to be not rooting for

671
00:29:55,440 --> 00:29:57,360
Speaker 5: both teams to lose. I don't even want to tie.

672
00:29:57,400 --> 00:30:00,400
Speaker 5: I just want them to both get losses somehow, no ties.

673
00:30:02,040 --> 00:30:04,880
Speaker 7: Uh, the Steelers, if you're wondering, are home underdogs against

674
00:30:04,880 --> 00:30:05,760
Speaker 7: the Packers right now?

675
00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:10,080
Speaker 5: That's fine. So Michael Parsons, you got paid all this money,

676
00:30:10,440 --> 00:30:11,800
Speaker 5: Go go go get that guy.

677
00:30:11,880 --> 00:30:13,720
Speaker 7: But if it takes Aaron Rodgers to have like a

678
00:30:13,840 --> 00:30:18,440
Speaker 7: two hundred and ninety yard three touchdown game, Mark Physic

679
00:30:20,440 --> 00:30:23,760
Speaker 7: okay with that, I'm okay with whatever I would like.

680
00:30:23,840 --> 00:30:25,640
Speaker 5: I would like, I mean, I would like the Steelers

681
00:30:25,680 --> 00:30:28,040
Speaker 5: to win obviously, but I like it to be on

682
00:30:28,160 --> 00:30:30,880
Speaker 5: the running game and Aaron Rodgers throws like four picks

683
00:30:30,920 --> 00:30:31,560
Speaker 5: in eighty yards.

684
00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:35,920
Speaker 1: Mark wants the guy the Green Bay Packers lineman to

685
00:30:36,240 --> 00:30:38,560
Speaker 1: Michael Parsons Joe on his back like his own teammate

686
00:30:38,640 --> 00:30:41,040
Speaker 1: did last week, which is hilarious by the way.

687
00:30:41,160 --> 00:30:42,040
Speaker 8: Yeah, what.

688
00:30:43,720 --> 00:30:46,400
Speaker 1: Colse Liman jumped on Daniel Jones like that? I feel

689
00:30:46,440 --> 00:30:48,200
Speaker 1: like Shane Stikeen would like I.

690
00:30:48,240 --> 00:30:50,920
Speaker 2: Thought Rogers would lose it. Yeah, when he first went down,

691
00:30:53,080 --> 00:30:54,400
Speaker 2: got some sciatica.

692
00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:59,120
Speaker 7: Going on or something. That's Mark's word of the day. Sciatica.

693
00:30:59,760 --> 00:31:03,000
Speaker 5: Ah, that's cold weather. My shoulders hurting like Rodney Dangerfield

694
00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:04,640
Speaker 5: didn't catty like, oh my arm it's broken.

695
00:31:05,280 --> 00:31:08,000
Speaker 7: Another guy who's not your problem anymore is Justin Field's

696
00:31:08,040 --> 00:31:10,360
Speaker 7: done as the quarterback of the Jets. Al righty Jets stink.

697
00:31:10,760 --> 00:31:13,320
Speaker 5: Aaron Glenn might be a one year coach because that

698
00:31:13,520 --> 00:31:15,000
Speaker 5: that looks like a complete train wreck.

699
00:31:15,560 --> 00:31:18,000
Speaker 7: But we'll always have him sprinding down the sidelines, though,

700
00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:21,440
Speaker 7: won't we to September that was whoever matched that up

701
00:31:21,520 --> 00:31:21,800
Speaker 7: was great.

702
00:31:22,440 --> 00:31:25,240
Speaker 2: And to James's point, Cincinnati plays the Jets this week,

703
00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:27,840
Speaker 2: so you know the Bengals could win another game, which

704
00:31:27,840 --> 00:31:31,760
Speaker 2: would whatever keep I feel like everyone is sending me, hey, Hendrick,

705
00:31:31,800 --> 00:31:34,320
Speaker 2: send this or you know, Cincinnati defender that. It's like, well,

706
00:31:34,360 --> 00:31:35,960
Speaker 2: if they keep winning and they didn't trade for Joe

707
00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:39,320
Speaker 2: Flacco to go tank, they tried to save their season,

708
00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:41,800
Speaker 2: so it's gonna have to take I would say two

709
00:31:41,880 --> 00:31:44,040
Speaker 2: straight losses for them to all of a sudden be

710
00:31:44,120 --> 00:31:45,000
Speaker 2: sellers of the deadline.

711
00:31:45,040 --> 00:31:47,240
Speaker 7: If that, well, they are only three and four, but

712
00:31:47,400 --> 00:31:49,640
Speaker 7: check this out. All three of their wins have come

713
00:31:49,720 --> 00:31:52,800
Speaker 7: within the conference, so not only a game and a

714
00:31:52,840 --> 00:31:57,880
Speaker 7: half behind Pittsburgh, who's already had a bye week, but

715
00:31:58,160 --> 00:32:00,760
Speaker 7: they've got games still to a game is still to

716
00:32:00,760 --> 00:32:03,600
Speaker 7: play against Pittsburgh, and they're three and one in conference play,

717
00:32:03,720 --> 00:32:06,719
Speaker 7: which you know, when it comes down to wildcard spots,

718
00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:08,480
Speaker 7: that's what's going to make a difference right there. So

719
00:32:08,600 --> 00:32:11,040
Speaker 7: if I'm the Cincinnati Bengals, I'm sitting there going, hey,

720
00:32:11,080 --> 00:32:13,479
Speaker 7: if we can just play even five hundred or one

721
00:32:13,520 --> 00:32:15,600
Speaker 7: game over five hundredun til Joe Burrow gets back, we're

722
00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:16,120
Speaker 7: right where we.

723
00:32:16,160 --> 00:32:16,520
Speaker 1: Need to be.

724
00:32:17,120 --> 00:32:18,680
Speaker 2: James, when's the last time he played pick up?

725
00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:23,200
Speaker 1: It's been a few weeks because of the schedule. Usually

726
00:32:23,240 --> 00:32:25,200
Speaker 1: up play jam V on Sunday's looking forward to hopefully

727
00:32:25,600 --> 00:32:27,480
Speaker 1: getting a run in this upcoming Sunday because of the

728
00:32:27,520 --> 00:32:30,280
Speaker 1: four PM or four thirty ish kickoff.

729
00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:32,800
Speaker 2: Pacers might need you for some backup PG clock coming

730
00:32:32,880 --> 00:32:33,400
Speaker 2: up Thursday.

731
00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:35,800
Speaker 1: Well, I imagine they're trying to win the game, so no,

732
00:32:35,840 --> 00:32:36,360
Speaker 1: they'll need me.

733
00:32:36,560 --> 00:32:39,600
Speaker 2: I literally have no idea who their backup point guard

734
00:32:39,640 --> 00:32:40,400
Speaker 2: will be Thursday night.

735
00:32:40,760 --> 00:32:43,760
Speaker 1: That is very interesting, especially because the waiver I think

736
00:32:43,800 --> 00:32:46,440
Speaker 1: the waiver deadline kind of passed, so you have to

737
00:32:46,480 --> 00:32:48,640
Speaker 1: figure out, you know, what other avenues you might go

738
00:32:48,800 --> 00:32:50,160
Speaker 1: through to get somebody in there.

739
00:32:50,320 --> 00:32:53,239
Speaker 2: But and just to go over everything, Yeah, obviously out

740
00:32:53,240 --> 00:32:56,320
Speaker 2: I know his situation. Andrew Nemhart is your starter. TJ

741
00:32:56,440 --> 00:32:59,320
Speaker 2: McConnell injures his hamstring and the preseason opener he's going

742
00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:01,040
Speaker 2: to be out at least a couple weeks into the

743
00:33:01,080 --> 00:33:04,560
Speaker 2: regular season. They bring in Well, first it was gonna

744
00:33:04,560 --> 00:33:07,080
Speaker 2: be Delawn right right, and then whatever the physical doesn't

745
00:33:07,120 --> 00:33:10,440
Speaker 2: clear Morris, Oh yeah, Monte Morris, if you go back, yes,

746
00:33:10,520 --> 00:33:14,320
Speaker 2: thank you for that. That doesn't work out, and then

747
00:33:14,440 --> 00:33:17,880
Speaker 2: Delawn Wright situation, how long did that last?

748
00:33:18,240 --> 00:33:20,440
Speaker 1: That can cuss in that game with the same.

749
00:33:20,320 --> 00:33:23,080
Speaker 2: Game that McConnell got hurt, right, Yeah, so then he's gone.

750
00:33:23,240 --> 00:33:26,040
Speaker 2: They bring in Cameron Payne. They clearly don't like what

751
00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:28,360
Speaker 2: they saw from Cameron Payne for a couple of games.

752
00:33:29,080 --> 00:33:32,000
Speaker 2: Amidst all of this, Quinton Jackson, who we've seen, you know,

753
00:33:32,080 --> 00:33:34,000
Speaker 2: be on a two way contract and actually I think

754
00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:35,320
Speaker 2: when he's gotten a little bit of clock with the

755
00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:38,680
Speaker 2: NBA team, Yeah, he gives you a little gives you

756
00:33:38,680 --> 00:33:41,800
Speaker 2: a little energy. He hurts his hamstring. It sounds like

757
00:33:41,840 --> 00:33:44,080
Speaker 2: he won't be ready for Thursday night. So if you're

758
00:33:44,120 --> 00:33:48,000
Speaker 2: looking at healthy point guards, I guess it's ray J Dennis.

759
00:33:48,080 --> 00:33:51,960
Speaker 2: But do you have Jerris Walker point forward it with

760
00:33:52,120 --> 00:33:52,880
Speaker 2: the second unit?

761
00:33:54,360 --> 00:33:56,160
Speaker 1: That's a great question to ask for Carlisle, because I

762
00:33:56,200 --> 00:33:59,120
Speaker 1: have I don't know, it's tough. I almost want to

763
00:33:59,160 --> 00:34:02,600
Speaker 1: be like Matherin. You're a ball handler, can you bring

764
00:34:02,640 --> 00:34:03,880
Speaker 1: it up a couple of times? I know it's not

765
00:34:03,960 --> 00:34:07,080
Speaker 1: your nature, you're more of a score slash slasher, But

766
00:34:07,840 --> 00:34:10,480
Speaker 1: I mean, you're looking at at this point, how many

767
00:34:10,560 --> 00:34:12,680
Speaker 1: bodies do we have just to throw out there to

768
00:34:12,840 --> 00:34:16,200
Speaker 1: hopefully alleviate some pressure on Andrew Nimphah, which is or

769
00:34:16,239 --> 00:34:17,920
Speaker 1: we were kind of worried about coming into the season,

770
00:34:17,960 --> 00:34:20,120
Speaker 1: and I already had questions before the injuries, and now

771
00:34:20,120 --> 00:34:21,840
Speaker 1: I have more because you're putting so much on the

772
00:34:21,880 --> 00:34:24,040
Speaker 1: plate of Nimhart's off this season. And I get it,

773
00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:27,840
Speaker 1: this is what I'm sure he welcomes, but not to

774
00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:29,399
Speaker 1: this degree right out the gate.

775
00:34:30,120 --> 00:34:33,279
Speaker 7: It's crazy too. I mean, yesterday was everybody was making

776
00:34:33,320 --> 00:34:35,600
Speaker 7: their preseason predictions on how the NBA season is going

777
00:34:35,640 --> 00:34:38,640
Speaker 7: to go, and and Most Vialuable Player Nikola jokis getting

778
00:34:38,640 --> 00:34:39,840
Speaker 7: a lot of love for that, and I get all that,

779
00:34:39,960 --> 00:34:42,080
Speaker 7: but they came to over unders again on a lot

780
00:34:42,120 --> 00:34:44,359
Speaker 7: of these sites, and I've just I just picked one

781
00:34:44,400 --> 00:34:47,759
Speaker 7: here at cbssports dot com. Indiana Pacers under thirty seven

782
00:34:47,920 --> 00:34:50,840
Speaker 7: and a half wins. I get it, with all the injuries,

783
00:34:50,880 --> 00:34:51,960
Speaker 7: even starting the season off.

784
00:34:52,040 --> 00:34:52,520
Speaker 1: I get it.

785
00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:55,319
Speaker 7: The two of your five guys are are gone from

786
00:34:55,360 --> 00:34:57,520
Speaker 7: the starting lineup last year. I just feel like this

787
00:34:57,680 --> 00:35:00,600
Speaker 7: team is going to find a way to win their

788
00:35:00,760 --> 00:35:03,239
Speaker 7: share of games in the forty to forty two to

789
00:35:03,320 --> 00:35:06,520
Speaker 7: forty three range. I can't get past that feeling. I

790
00:35:06,560 --> 00:35:09,600
Speaker 7: think they're just gonna win a bunch of games when

791
00:35:09,640 --> 00:35:11,479
Speaker 7: teams are are a little bit down and a little

792
00:35:11,520 --> 00:35:13,360
Speaker 7: bit tired, and they're just gonna outlast a lot of

793
00:35:13,400 --> 00:35:13,920
Speaker 7: these teams.

794
00:35:15,719 --> 00:35:18,680
Speaker 1: I don't know, Jeff, I'm skeptic, callready just because of

795
00:35:18,719 --> 00:35:21,040
Speaker 1: the injuries. It's hard just miss how hurt they are

796
00:35:21,560 --> 00:35:24,640
Speaker 1: going into the year. And I think a lot of

797
00:35:24,680 --> 00:35:26,640
Speaker 1: folks as much as they love the rest of the group,

798
00:35:27,239 --> 00:35:28,920
Speaker 1: And I find myself doing this to a degree when

799
00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:30,399
Speaker 1: I look at the Pacers. It's like, I don't want

800
00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:33,560
Speaker 1: to discredit how great of a player Tyre's Halliburton is,

801
00:35:34,120 --> 00:35:37,239
Speaker 1: and he might be worth ten wins himself outright. So

802
00:35:37,600 --> 00:35:39,480
Speaker 1: you look at what they did last year when they finished,

803
00:35:39,560 --> 00:35:41,920
Speaker 1: and you take the best player, one of the best

804
00:35:41,960 --> 00:35:44,600
Speaker 1: point guards in the world, off of that team, it's

805
00:35:44,680 --> 00:35:47,480
Speaker 1: hard to absorb that. And like you said, you're also,

806
00:35:47,880 --> 00:35:50,439
Speaker 1: you know, kind of just figuring out what you're gonna

807
00:35:50,440 --> 00:35:53,440
Speaker 1: do at center because you are notably worse there too.

808
00:35:53,680 --> 00:35:54,040
Speaker 8: I get it.

809
00:35:54,160 --> 00:35:56,839
Speaker 1: Myles Turner left, you might have a traja and he'll

810
00:35:56,840 --> 00:35:59,080
Speaker 1: get boom when he comes back, all those things, but

811
00:35:59,200 --> 00:36:00,640
Speaker 1: that doesn't change the fact that he was a much

812
00:36:00,680 --> 00:36:02,319
Speaker 1: better option at center than what they have right now.

813
00:36:02,520 --> 00:36:04,280
Speaker 2: You know a huge reason why I've been so bullish

814
00:36:04,320 --> 00:36:07,239
Speaker 2: on the pacers in recent years is because of the

815
00:36:07,320 --> 00:36:10,880
Speaker 2: eighty two night grind. I feel like they're built depth wise.

816
00:36:11,480 --> 00:36:14,440
Speaker 2: So to your point, Jeff, outlast teams to handle back

817
00:36:14,480 --> 00:36:16,960
Speaker 2: to backs better to Hey, we're gonna run you into

818
00:36:16,960 --> 00:36:19,239
Speaker 2: the ground here for forty eight minutes and you better

819
00:36:19,320 --> 00:36:21,719
Speaker 2: get on your track shoes or you know it's not

820
00:36:21,760 --> 00:36:25,239
Speaker 2: gonna go well for you. Is that still a superpower?

821
00:36:27,680 --> 00:36:28,399
Speaker 1: That's a great question.

822
00:36:28,520 --> 00:36:29,840
Speaker 7: Gonna be tough right off the bat with all the

823
00:36:29,880 --> 00:36:32,239
Speaker 7: problems you just talked about in the bench, there's no questions.

824
00:36:32,080 --> 00:36:33,719
Speaker 2: That still And if you just played the game is

825
00:36:33,800 --> 00:36:35,640
Speaker 2: probably what a lot of national people do, if you

826
00:36:35,800 --> 00:36:37,160
Speaker 2: just played the game, because what do you see in

827
00:36:37,160 --> 00:36:40,640
Speaker 2: all these little preseason you know graphics on these websites.

828
00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:42,640
Speaker 5: You know, they they shrig it down.

829
00:36:42,480 --> 00:36:44,840
Speaker 2: To what three sentences on each team they throw in

830
00:36:44,960 --> 00:36:47,239
Speaker 2: last year's record, And the other thing they probably throw

831
00:36:47,280 --> 00:36:54,600
Speaker 2: in is additions. Subtractions, Right, who's new, who's left? Okay, subtractions?

832
00:36:55,760 --> 00:36:59,960
Speaker 2: Tyreus Halliburton, Miles Turner? Who are the additions?

833
00:37:00,200 --> 00:37:03,520
Speaker 7: Well, And to drill down on that, the CBS article

834
00:37:03,600 --> 00:37:06,120
Speaker 7: is talking about what's their identity without Halliberton?

835
00:37:06,800 --> 00:37:12,160
Speaker 1: Are the additions? Like Yeah, Yeah, like Jay Huff right now,

836
00:37:12,160 --> 00:37:14,560
Speaker 1: I'm serious trolling. I mean, Jay Huff is an addition.

837
00:37:14,719 --> 00:37:18,520
Speaker 2: All the additions are internal hope and growth of Matherin

838
00:37:18,800 --> 00:37:24,080
Speaker 2: jump Walker, Jackson healthy healthy. Yeah, and again I'm still

839
00:37:24,160 --> 00:37:27,600
Speaker 2: bullish on north of forty. But I get why there

840
00:37:27,640 --> 00:37:29,520
Speaker 2: are some people out there. They just look at it

841
00:37:29,640 --> 00:37:32,040
Speaker 2: of Hey, you know, thirty teams across the league. I

842
00:37:32,160 --> 00:37:33,880
Speaker 2: think the Pacers, and I know it's a dangerous game

843
00:37:33,920 --> 00:37:35,880
Speaker 2: to play it, I think they've largely earned benefit of

844
00:37:35,920 --> 00:37:38,480
Speaker 2: the doubt. And again, I know that's a little bit

845
00:37:38,560 --> 00:37:41,959
Speaker 2: of like, oh boy, okay, you know, is that true

846
00:37:42,160 --> 00:37:44,840
Speaker 2: true belief? But that's where I'm at on it. But

847
00:37:45,360 --> 00:37:46,640
Speaker 2: you know, if you look at and say, all right,

848
00:37:46,640 --> 00:37:48,200
Speaker 2: you're taking one of the best point guards in the world.

849
00:37:48,320 --> 00:37:50,319
Speaker 2: You're taking away a you know, ten year guy at

850
00:37:50,400 --> 00:37:54,680
Speaker 2: center who's been a pretty reliable player for you, I

851
00:37:54,760 --> 00:37:55,879
Speaker 2: get why there's a little bit of pass.

852
00:37:56,040 --> 00:37:58,520
Speaker 7: Yeah, they say their margin for injuries is minimal. There's

853
00:37:58,600 --> 00:38:01,080
Speaker 7: even an argument to trade so some of the older players.

854
00:38:01,480 --> 00:38:01,680
Speaker 8: TJ.

855
00:38:01,840 --> 00:38:04,600
Speaker 7: McConnell will be thirty five when the twenty seven playoffs

856
00:38:04,719 --> 00:38:08,320
Speaker 7: roll around, probably makes more sense for him to participate

857
00:38:08,360 --> 00:38:11,040
Speaker 7: in the twenty twenty six postseason on a team that

858
00:38:11,120 --> 00:38:14,200
Speaker 7: plans to compete in those and he's not the only

859
00:38:14,280 --> 00:38:17,560
Speaker 7: pacer that fits that description. Indiana, like the Boston Celtics,

860
00:38:17,600 --> 00:38:19,759
Speaker 7: has a rare chance to add cheap labor with a

861
00:38:19,960 --> 00:38:22,840
Speaker 7: top draft pick. If they're on the borderline, they'll surely

862
00:38:22,880 --> 00:38:28,080
Speaker 7: be tempted to take it. Interesting interesting stuff. So we'll

863
00:38:28,280 --> 00:38:30,279
Speaker 7: talk to Rick Carla about all that stuff coming up

864
00:38:30,280 --> 00:38:32,799
Speaker 7: at a minute again. The NBA season kicks off tonight

865
00:38:32,880 --> 00:38:35,040
Speaker 7: with a couple of games. They will be a doubleheader

866
00:38:35,080 --> 00:38:38,520
Speaker 7: on NBC. Was last time we saw prime time outside

867
00:38:38,560 --> 00:38:42,680
Speaker 7: of the playoffs basketball on network television? Kevin, NBC's got

868
00:38:42,719 --> 00:38:45,200
Speaker 7: basketball back. It's kind of their their big tip off

869
00:38:45,280 --> 00:38:47,799
Speaker 7: for the season tonight. That's we haven't seen that much.

870
00:38:48,040 --> 00:38:49,800
Speaker 2: Is Grady on the call for one of these games.

871
00:38:49,920 --> 00:38:53,000
Speaker 2: He's with NBC right amongst a couple of other he's

872
00:38:53,040 --> 00:38:58,080
Speaker 2: gonna wear this year. I assume Mike Turrico is probably

873
00:38:58,160 --> 00:39:00,239
Speaker 2: doing the first game, right, Yeah?

874
00:39:00,280 --> 00:39:02,400
Speaker 1: And it isn't Michael Jordan doing something? Is that with

875
00:39:02,600 --> 00:39:04,000
Speaker 1: Prime or was that with NBC?

876
00:39:04,200 --> 00:39:06,240
Speaker 5: I think it's NBC, but I don't know exactly.

877
00:39:06,239 --> 00:39:08,120
Speaker 1: I mean, like it's Jordan's gonna be like in the.

878
00:39:08,520 --> 00:39:12,120
Speaker 7: Like I don't know, commenting on second quarter back in

879
00:39:12,200 --> 00:39:13,759
Speaker 7: the studio here and Michael Jordan.

880
00:39:13,840 --> 00:39:16,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I'm curious here from them, like he's the

881
00:39:16,840 --> 00:39:19,040
Speaker 1: best player ever, so you know, what does he have

882
00:39:19,080 --> 00:39:21,080
Speaker 1: to say about today's stars, in the state of the

883
00:39:21,160 --> 00:39:23,080
Speaker 1: league and things of that nature. I mean, we really

884
00:39:23,120 --> 00:39:23,600
Speaker 1: hear from him.

885
00:39:23,680 --> 00:39:27,880
Speaker 2: Well, the Pacers raise a Eastern Conference banner Thursday night,

886
00:39:27,960 --> 00:39:29,239
Speaker 2: Will they do anything Thursday night?

887
00:39:29,600 --> 00:39:32,280
Speaker 1: That's a good question. I don't know, if you if opportune,

888
00:39:32,280 --> 00:39:34,880
Speaker 1: they probably should. I'm trying to think, and I don't know,

889
00:39:34,920 --> 00:39:37,000
Speaker 1: I have to trying to picture like the Raptors in

890
00:39:37,040 --> 00:39:38,920
Speaker 1: my head. I'm literally trying to picture the Raptors. I

891
00:39:39,120 --> 00:39:43,360
Speaker 1: swear there's an Eastern Conference champions banner, is or not?

892
00:39:43,440 --> 00:39:45,080
Speaker 1: I don't know. I feel like my mine always, my

893
00:39:45,120 --> 00:39:47,640
Speaker 1: eyes always goes towards the jerseys and like, you know,

894
00:39:47,800 --> 00:39:49,560
Speaker 1: thinking that Nancy Leonard should be up there as well.

895
00:39:49,600 --> 00:39:52,480
Speaker 1: I would imagine at some point. But yeah, that's a

896
00:39:52,520 --> 00:39:54,520
Speaker 1: good question. And I don't say this is like a

897
00:39:54,640 --> 00:39:56,239
Speaker 1: joke either. I feel like, if you make it to

898
00:39:56,280 --> 00:39:59,560
Speaker 1: the conference finals, it's fine there like this isn't this is.

899
00:39:59,560 --> 00:40:04,080
Speaker 2: Not wild participant whatever. Mark thought the language was on that.

900
00:40:04,320 --> 00:40:05,759
Speaker 2: What do you say, What do you think it was

901
00:40:05,840 --> 00:40:06,000
Speaker 2: on it?

902
00:40:06,160 --> 00:40:07,160
Speaker 5: Mark said it again.

903
00:40:07,320 --> 00:40:09,239
Speaker 2: Did you think it said wild card participant?

904
00:40:09,560 --> 00:40:14,480
Speaker 5: Yes, wild or AFC final. I forget what it said exactly, Yeah,

905
00:40:14,480 --> 00:40:17,479
Speaker 5: wild card participant or wild card crazy.

906
00:40:17,480 --> 00:40:19,279
Speaker 1: There's no way it said participant on.

907
00:40:19,360 --> 00:40:20,640
Speaker 7: I have to I have to find it.

908
00:40:20,880 --> 00:40:23,560
Speaker 5: I took a picture on like six phones ago that

909
00:40:23,760 --> 00:40:24,439
Speaker 5: side by side.

910
00:40:24,480 --> 00:40:26,960
Speaker 1: There's no way you know Addison's soccer ribbons she got

911
00:40:27,000 --> 00:40:27,759
Speaker 1: from the end of the season.

912
00:40:28,760 --> 00:40:31,879
Speaker 5: Hey, if you've got to, I mean, if you filled

913
00:40:31,880 --> 00:40:37,319
Speaker 5: some space he put out whatever he can. I need

914
00:40:37,400 --> 00:40:38,040
Speaker 5: to find that picture.

915
00:40:38,080 --> 00:40:40,600
Speaker 2: I'm totally good to the Eastern Conference final banner. Yeah,

916
00:40:41,320 --> 00:40:43,160
Speaker 2: we got a text here about kin tail and Peter

917
00:40:43,360 --> 00:40:44,600
Speaker 2: bring up the ball, Ben Sheppard.

918
00:40:44,680 --> 00:40:46,600
Speaker 1: You know what I did, like what I saw from Taylor.

919
00:40:46,719 --> 00:40:50,040
Speaker 2: I like, this is the second round pick out of

920
00:40:50,080 --> 00:40:53,960
Speaker 2: what liberty right? Yes, the analytics guy that you know

921
00:40:54,160 --> 00:40:56,560
Speaker 2: defied all these crazy analytics as a shooter and a

922
00:40:56,640 --> 00:40:59,200
Speaker 2: dunker in college, and I thought he showed a little

923
00:40:59,200 --> 00:41:02,239
Speaker 2: bit more that I was unfamiliar with this game would

924
00:41:02,239 --> 00:41:03,719
Speaker 2: be the best way to put it. And I got

925
00:41:03,800 --> 00:41:05,760
Speaker 2: familiarized prety quick, and I kind of like what I saw.

926
00:41:05,760 --> 00:41:08,880
Speaker 1: So KB with the Shack reference. I wasn't familiar with

927
00:41:08,960 --> 00:41:13,040
Speaker 1: your game. Slightly different tone of voice with that.

928
00:41:13,840 --> 00:41:17,840
Speaker 5: Uh it was twenty it was twenty fourteen AFC finalist.

929
00:41:18,000 --> 00:41:18,680
Speaker 7: That's what it said.

930
00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:20,719
Speaker 5: Yeah, see the.

931
00:41:20,719 --> 00:41:24,280
Speaker 2: Finalist part Like ah, but but this would be different,

932
00:41:24,320 --> 00:41:27,240
Speaker 2: this would be you won, you want a conference conference?

933
00:41:27,360 --> 00:41:29,759
Speaker 7: Yeah, I don't have a problem with it. The top

934
00:41:29,880 --> 00:41:32,640
Speaker 7: two play by play guys for NBC, although I'm not

935
00:41:32,719 --> 00:41:35,960
Speaker 7: finding tonight's assignments, Mike Turka and Noah Eagle.

936
00:41:36,680 --> 00:41:39,080
Speaker 5: Yeahmul Crawford.

937
00:41:39,200 --> 00:41:40,520
Speaker 1: I want to say, there's a lot of people that

938
00:41:40,640 --> 00:41:43,359
Speaker 1: did like the whole Amazon thing, and I think it's

939
00:41:43,400 --> 00:41:44,680
Speaker 1: Grady on a part of that. I think he's a

940
00:41:44,719 --> 00:41:46,680
Speaker 1: part of the Amazon crew. But I think both.

941
00:41:46,840 --> 00:41:47,000
Speaker 10: Yeah.

942
00:41:47,040 --> 00:41:50,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think by the g Grady's got very proud

943
00:41:50,360 --> 00:41:52,200
Speaker 2: of money. And by the way, the Pacers, they got

944
00:41:52,239 --> 00:41:54,279
Speaker 2: the Thunder Thursday, and then they go on the road.

945
00:41:54,320 --> 00:41:59,000
Speaker 2: The Pacers schedule first like seven and is tough. Yeah,

946
00:41:59,040 --> 00:41:59,879
Speaker 2: and they go out easing.

947
00:42:00,080 --> 00:42:01,480
Speaker 1: It was like welcome home. He's like a three game

948
00:42:01,520 --> 00:42:01,839
Speaker 1: road trip.

949
00:42:01,880 --> 00:42:02,080
Speaker 8: Yeah.

950
00:42:02,480 --> 00:42:04,400
Speaker 2: Right after and then if I'm not mistaken, I think

951
00:42:04,440 --> 00:42:07,479
Speaker 2: the Miles Turner return game is early in the season.

952
00:42:07,520 --> 00:42:10,000
Speaker 2: I want to say it's a Monday in November. So yeah,

953
00:42:10,239 --> 00:42:12,279
Speaker 2: it's a very challenging slate. I think out of the

954
00:42:12,320 --> 00:42:13,880
Speaker 2: gate all right, a lot.

955
00:42:13,800 --> 00:42:16,760
Speaker 7: To talk about. NBA season kicks off tonight, the Pacers

956
00:42:16,800 --> 00:42:19,560
Speaker 7: get rolling at home Thursday night, the head coach of

957
00:42:19,640 --> 00:42:22,800
Speaker 7: the Indiana Pacers, Rick Carlisle, stops by for his Tuesday

958
00:42:22,880 --> 00:42:24,799
Speaker 7: Chat next on ninety three five and one to seven

959
00:42:24,840 --> 00:42:25,600
Speaker 7: five the fifth.

960
00:42:26,680 --> 00:42:30,560
Speaker 2: Eight o'clock on a Tuesday, And I think I speak

961
00:42:30,560 --> 00:42:32,600
Speaker 2: for a lot of listeners out there, certainly some that

962
00:42:32,640 --> 00:42:36,200
Speaker 2: have reached out over the years and it's their favorite

963
00:42:36,239 --> 00:42:38,279
Speaker 2: time of the week when it comes to this show.

964
00:42:38,440 --> 00:42:41,000
Speaker 2: And we are very appreciative of Rick Carlisle joining us

965
00:42:41,040 --> 00:42:44,160
Speaker 2: again for another season here Tuesdays at eight o'clock as

966
00:42:44,200 --> 00:42:47,799
Speaker 2: the Pacers get things underway. Coming up Thursday night, it'll

967
00:42:47,840 --> 00:42:50,839
Speaker 2: be Pacers in Thunder. It is a national broadcast as

968
00:42:50,920 --> 00:42:53,719
Speaker 2: they kick off the twenty twenty five twenty twenty six season.

969
00:42:53,800 --> 00:42:56,160
Speaker 2: Let's head of the Payoffs Liickers Hotline right now and

970
00:42:56,239 --> 00:42:58,880
Speaker 2: he is the head coach of the Indiana Pacers joining us.

971
00:42:59,160 --> 00:43:01,080
Speaker 1: Coach Carlisle, morning to you, how are you.

972
00:43:02,840 --> 00:43:03,640
Speaker 10: Fair well? How are you.

973
00:43:04,280 --> 00:43:06,920
Speaker 2: We are wonderful. Thank you again for the time this

974
00:43:07,080 --> 00:43:09,800
Speaker 2: season obviously a ton to get to. Let's start with

975
00:43:10,040 --> 00:43:11,839
Speaker 2: the news item for those that maybe went to bed

976
00:43:12,239 --> 00:43:16,200
Speaker 2: early last night. Reportedly a two year extension for Aaron E.

977
00:43:16,320 --> 00:43:16,520
Speaker 7: Smith.

978
00:43:16,560 --> 00:43:18,520
Speaker 2: I brought it up earlier, coach, you know, to me,

979
00:43:18,640 --> 00:43:20,560
Speaker 2: I look back on the playoffs last year and you know,

980
00:43:20,719 --> 00:43:25,520
Speaker 2: his put back dunk against Cleveland just spearhead that comeback. Obviously,

981
00:43:25,640 --> 00:43:28,440
Speaker 2: the flurry of threes he hit in MSG to kind

982
00:43:28,440 --> 00:43:31,080
Speaker 2: of spearhead that comeback as well. I just think he's

983
00:43:31,600 --> 00:43:35,080
Speaker 2: such a valuable cog to what you guys are all about.

984
00:43:35,160 --> 00:43:37,080
Speaker 2: What has he meant to you and how have you

985
00:43:37,160 --> 00:43:38,920
Speaker 2: seen him grow in your time with him here.

986
00:43:41,040 --> 00:43:43,520
Speaker 10: Well, it's been great to see and be a part of.

987
00:43:45,400 --> 00:43:47,480
Speaker 9: I think the bottom line is he's a he's a

988
00:43:47,600 --> 00:43:51,920
Speaker 9: proven starter for us, and you know, the opportunity to

989
00:43:52,040 --> 00:43:54,200
Speaker 9: extend a guy a couple of years. So now I

990
00:43:54,280 --> 00:43:58,879
Speaker 9: think he's under contract for four years, including this year

991
00:43:58,920 --> 00:44:03,239
Speaker 9: that we're headed into. So it's great news for the organization.

992
00:44:04,400 --> 00:44:04,760
Speaker 10: Certainly.

993
00:44:04,800 --> 00:44:09,319
Speaker 9: I think he's he's very happy about it, and there's

994
00:44:09,400 --> 00:44:12,279
Speaker 9: been a lot of growth. You know, here's a kid

995
00:44:12,360 --> 00:44:14,440
Speaker 9: that barely got in the games when he was with

996
00:44:14,560 --> 00:44:17,120
Speaker 9: the Celtics, and you know, a lot of that had

997
00:44:17,160 --> 00:44:18,759
Speaker 9: to do with the guys that were ahead of him.

998
00:44:18,760 --> 00:44:21,200
Speaker 9: A lot of them were great players, et cetera. But

999
00:44:22,080 --> 00:44:25,120
Speaker 9: this has been an amazing opportunity for him and he's

1000
00:44:25,160 --> 00:44:28,600
Speaker 9: taken advantage of it and he's really helped us rare coomers.

1001
00:44:28,640 --> 00:44:31,520
Speaker 1: Do you think the success that Aarony Smith has had

1002
00:44:31,880 --> 00:44:33,759
Speaker 1: the change of sceneery here in Indiana can have a

1003
00:44:33,800 --> 00:44:36,560
Speaker 1: trickle down effect on other players just seeing like you said,

1004
00:44:36,680 --> 00:44:38,919
Speaker 1: he didn't, you know, perhaps have the opportunity you wanted

1005
00:44:38,960 --> 00:44:41,200
Speaker 1: early on, but kept grinding the way and now he's

1006
00:44:41,239 --> 00:44:42,840
Speaker 1: looked at as one of the best two way players

1007
00:44:42,840 --> 00:44:43,200
Speaker 1: in the league.

1008
00:44:45,160 --> 00:44:49,279
Speaker 9: Well, I think the organization looked at his situation and

1009
00:44:50,920 --> 00:44:53,840
Speaker 9: basically said, this is a guy that any team in

1010
00:44:53,920 --> 00:44:55,239
Speaker 9: the entire league.

1011
00:44:55,040 --> 00:45:01,800
Speaker 10: Would love to have. He's versatile, he is skilled.

1012
00:45:02,360 --> 00:45:05,080
Speaker 9: His shooting is you know, we we've seen what he's

1013
00:45:05,200 --> 00:45:08,800
Speaker 9: he's able to be shooting the ball, and it just

1014
00:45:08,920 --> 00:45:11,680
Speaker 9: made too much sense to uh to figure out a

1015
00:45:11,719 --> 00:45:12,799
Speaker 9: way to get this thing done.

1016
00:45:13,200 --> 00:45:17,320
Speaker 10: And yes, I do think that this was one of

1017
00:45:17,400 --> 00:45:18,160
Speaker 10: the things.

1018
00:45:18,160 --> 00:45:23,080
Speaker 9: His development that has made the Pacers, you know, more

1019
00:45:23,160 --> 00:45:25,680
Speaker 9: of a more of a destination in terms of the

1020
00:45:25,760 --> 00:45:28,040
Speaker 9: conversation of you know, free agency and things.

1021
00:45:27,920 --> 00:45:28,560
Speaker 10: Like that, and so.

1022
00:45:30,239 --> 00:45:34,000
Speaker 9: A lot of a lot of very powerful reasons to

1023
00:45:34,080 --> 00:45:37,680
Speaker 9: get it done. And obviously everyone's very happy.

1024
00:45:38,080 --> 00:45:41,000
Speaker 2: Pager's back to practice today again. Thursday night. They will

1025
00:45:41,000 --> 00:45:43,360
Speaker 2: open up the season with thunder Rick Carlisle with us

1026
00:45:43,400 --> 00:45:47,400
Speaker 2: here on the Payless Slickers hotline coaches of Now, you know,

1027
00:45:48,239 --> 00:45:51,160
Speaker 2: on paper, you know Andrew Nemhart and then who knows

1028
00:45:51,280 --> 00:45:54,319
Speaker 2: behind him? From a point guard standpoint, do you kind

1029
00:45:54,360 --> 00:45:57,160
Speaker 2: of view this as a by committee approach until TJ

1030
00:45:57,280 --> 00:45:59,839
Speaker 2: McConnell returns or how are you looking at point guard

1031
00:46:00,320 --> 00:46:02,360
Speaker 2: particularly the depth there heading end of the season opener?

1032
00:46:04,280 --> 00:46:07,120
Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean there's gonna be a lot of bi

1033
00:46:07,160 --> 00:46:10,279
Speaker 9: committee stuff going on with the point guard position, with

1034
00:46:10,360 --> 00:46:14,680
Speaker 9: the center commit position, and and that's that's okay.

1035
00:46:15,040 --> 00:46:16,839
Speaker 10: I mean, there's great opportunity there.

1036
00:46:18,239 --> 00:46:20,959
Speaker 9: We've had a we've had a three week training camp

1037
00:46:21,080 --> 00:46:24,920
Speaker 9: to look at and evaluate a lot of these guys.

1038
00:46:27,040 --> 00:46:31,600
Speaker 9: But an NBA season is so long, it's six months

1039
00:46:31,960 --> 00:46:36,520
Speaker 9: and three weeks. You learn some things, but you know,

1040
00:46:36,640 --> 00:46:39,000
Speaker 9: certainly as we get into the heat of it here

1041
00:46:39,120 --> 00:46:41,279
Speaker 9: and you know, the schedule at the beginning of the

1042
00:46:41,400 --> 00:46:42,120
Speaker 9: year is no joke.

1043
00:46:42,160 --> 00:46:44,400
Speaker 10: I mean, there's just uh, you know, a lot of

1044
00:46:44,719 --> 00:46:47,200
Speaker 10: great teams, a lot of road games.

1045
00:46:48,719 --> 00:46:51,439
Speaker 9: You know, there'll be a lot of challenges and under

1046
00:46:51,520 --> 00:46:53,600
Speaker 9: those circumstances you find out even more.

1047
00:46:55,080 --> 00:46:58,320
Speaker 2: I know he currently is sidelined from an injury standpoint.

1048
00:46:58,320 --> 00:46:59,800
Speaker 2: I don't know if he would have been involved in

1049
00:46:59,880 --> 00:47:02,480
Speaker 2: your point guard conversation, but we did see the news

1050
00:47:02,600 --> 00:47:06,360
Speaker 2: yesterday with rookie cam Jones arrests that I believe the

1051
00:47:06,480 --> 00:47:12,000
Speaker 2: preliminary charges were reckless driving resisting law enforcement. Any further

1052
00:47:12,080 --> 00:47:15,239
Speaker 2: info you can provide or just the status on cam

1053
00:47:15,360 --> 00:47:18,000
Speaker 2: Jones here, Yeah.

1054
00:47:18,600 --> 00:47:22,759
Speaker 9: Talked to him yesterday. He came in and uh, he

1055
00:47:22,880 --> 00:47:26,319
Speaker 9: was very very contrite, you know about about the.

1056
00:47:26,320 --> 00:47:27,799
Speaker 10: Situation of being pulled over.

1057
00:47:29,520 --> 00:47:33,040
Speaker 9: You know, this is a kid with exemplary character, going

1058
00:47:33,120 --> 00:47:38,360
Speaker 9: back to his entire career at Marquette. After hearing the

1059
00:47:38,440 --> 00:47:41,200
Speaker 9: details of this, I think, I think in the in

1060
00:47:41,360 --> 00:47:43,840
Speaker 9: the end, this is going to end up being a

1061
00:47:43,880 --> 00:47:47,400
Speaker 9: speeding ticket. You know, a lot a lot of times

1062
00:47:47,520 --> 00:47:52,000
Speaker 9: things that are on the on the police blodder are overblown.

1063
00:47:53,480 --> 00:47:56,320
Speaker 9: You know, this is a kid that was was driving

1064
00:47:56,800 --> 00:47:58,919
Speaker 9: driving a little faster than he should have been trying

1065
00:47:58,960 --> 00:48:03,000
Speaker 9: to get to his uh his his workout and rehab thing.

1066
00:48:03,080 --> 00:48:05,960
Speaker 9: He's running a few minutes behind, and so you know

1067
00:48:06,040 --> 00:48:06,960
Speaker 9: he got pulled over.

1068
00:48:07,000 --> 00:48:10,480
Speaker 10: And and uh, you know, the thing ended up. The

1069
00:48:10,560 --> 00:48:12,840
Speaker 10: thing ended up in the in you know, in the news.

1070
00:48:13,239 --> 00:48:15,880
Speaker 9: So uh, I think in the end it's going to

1071
00:48:15,920 --> 00:48:20,239
Speaker 9: be a speeding ticket probably, And you know, he's going

1072
00:48:20,320 --> 00:48:22,560
Speaker 9: through a thing right now where he's got a back

1073
00:48:22,840 --> 00:48:29,960
Speaker 9: situation that is only gonna heal with time, time in

1074
00:48:30,000 --> 00:48:36,200
Speaker 9: the hyperbar chamber. Can't do can't do too much moving around.

1075
00:48:36,560 --> 00:48:39,000
Speaker 9: You know, it's a very it's got to be a

1076
00:48:39,160 --> 00:48:42,720
Speaker 9: very difficult thing to go through, particularly given our point guard.

1077
00:48:42,600 --> 00:48:43,520
Speaker 10: Situation for him.

1078
00:48:43,600 --> 00:48:45,319
Speaker 9: And yes, he would have been one of the guys

1079
00:48:45,400 --> 00:48:48,920
Speaker 9: in the conversation, so you know, I said a couple

1080
00:48:49,360 --> 00:48:52,800
Speaker 9: a few days ago that you know, we would revisit,

1081
00:48:53,200 --> 00:48:54,920
Speaker 9: you know, conversation about where he's.

1082
00:48:54,800 --> 00:48:57,719
Speaker 10: At, probably at November ninth, when we were gonna do

1083
00:48:57,840 --> 00:48:59,240
Speaker 10: the same thing with t J McConnell.

1084
00:48:59,320 --> 00:49:02,960
Speaker 9: That will be a one month after TJ's injury, and

1085
00:49:03,080 --> 00:49:06,600
Speaker 9: then we'll see what's on from there. But uh, you know,

1086
00:49:06,760 --> 00:49:10,520
Speaker 9: cams Cam's doing fine, and uh, you know, and this

1087
00:49:10,719 --> 00:49:12,680
Speaker 9: is this is gonna be a blip on the radar screen.

1088
00:49:13,520 --> 00:49:15,880
Speaker 1: Can we have Rick Carlisle head coach, Ian A Pacer

1089
00:49:16,000 --> 00:49:18,640
Speaker 1: is joining us on the Paalsica top line right now, Rick,

1090
00:49:18,760 --> 00:49:21,960
Speaker 1: thinking of your other rookie guard, Taylor Peter, what's impressed

1091
00:49:22,040 --> 00:49:25,080
Speaker 1: you the most about his ability to adapt to the

1092
00:49:25,280 --> 00:49:28,360
Speaker 1: NBA game, particularly perhaps on the defensive end, is what

1093
00:49:28,440 --> 00:49:29,520
Speaker 1: I've been looking at myself.

1094
00:49:32,120 --> 00:49:36,200
Speaker 10: Yeah, he's just you know, this is a this is

1095
00:49:36,239 --> 00:49:36,520
Speaker 10: a kid.

1096
00:49:36,560 --> 00:49:39,480
Speaker 9: There's another Kevin Pritchard home run, you know in the

1097
00:49:39,560 --> 00:49:45,400
Speaker 9: second round. I mean, tough, tough, minded, a little bigger

1098
00:49:45,440 --> 00:49:53,920
Speaker 9: than people think, strong, physical, NBA skill with his shooting,

1099
00:49:54,920 --> 00:49:56,600
Speaker 9: you know, right now we've.

1100
00:49:56,440 --> 00:49:57,000
Speaker 10: Got the guy.

1101
00:49:58,360 --> 00:50:00,840
Speaker 9: Taking reps at point guard, which he's never played in

1102
00:50:00,920 --> 00:50:04,239
Speaker 9: his life, you know, up until the last preseason game.

1103
00:50:05,920 --> 00:50:08,200
Speaker 9: But that's the that's kind of the bind wearing right

1104
00:50:08,280 --> 00:50:13,200
Speaker 9: now with tj out, with with Quintin Jackson out and

1105
00:50:13,680 --> 00:50:17,040
Speaker 9: with Cam Jones out, So you know, there's a lot

1106
00:50:17,080 --> 00:50:20,200
Speaker 9: of adjusting that's going on from a team standpoint. But

1107
00:50:20,680 --> 00:50:26,400
Speaker 9: but this kid is resourceful, opportunistic as one of the

1108
00:50:26,440 --> 00:50:28,480
Speaker 9: best shooters in the country last year, maybe it may

1109
00:50:28,560 --> 00:50:30,400
Speaker 9: have even been the leading three point shooting in the

1110
00:50:30,440 --> 00:50:34,360
Speaker 9: country when he's at Liberty last year. So taking advantage

1111
00:50:34,400 --> 00:50:39,840
Speaker 9: of opportunity here. High character. Our fans love him already,

1112
00:50:39,920 --> 00:50:43,399
Speaker 9: the ones that have seen him in preseason games. Hard

1113
00:50:43,440 --> 00:50:45,879
Speaker 9: playing dude, that's all about the team.

1114
00:50:46,440 --> 00:50:49,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, certainly been impressed by him here in the preseason slate.

1115
00:50:49,840 --> 00:50:52,440
Speaker 2: It'll start for real coming up Thursday night, Pacers and

1116
00:50:52,760 --> 00:50:55,360
Speaker 2: Thunder inside of gamebridge Field. That's right, Carlisle with us

1117
00:50:55,400 --> 00:50:57,640
Speaker 2: here Tuesday at eight o'clock.

1118
00:50:57,880 --> 00:50:58,120
Speaker 1: Coach.

1119
00:50:58,520 --> 00:51:01,520
Speaker 2: I was reading they do this annually on NBA dot com,

1120
00:51:01,640 --> 00:51:05,239
Speaker 2: like a GM survey, and one of the things I

1121
00:51:05,360 --> 00:51:07,640
Speaker 2: was struck by by the NBA gms that responded to

1122
00:51:07,719 --> 00:51:11,120
Speaker 2: this was they asked, you know who runs or which

1123
00:51:11,160 --> 00:51:15,120
Speaker 2: head coach runs the best offense in the league. You

1124
00:51:15,280 --> 00:51:18,239
Speaker 2: were the overwhelming winner of that. I want to say

1125
00:51:18,280 --> 00:51:20,560
Speaker 2: it was north of fifty percent, and second was like

1126
00:51:20,719 --> 00:51:24,400
Speaker 2: all the way down at ten percent on that list,

1127
00:51:25,160 --> 00:51:29,600
Speaker 2: just in general with your offensive philosophy. I guess where

1128
00:51:29,680 --> 00:51:32,080
Speaker 2: did it start? And how do you think maybe that

1129
00:51:32,160 --> 00:51:34,520
Speaker 2: side of the ball has evolved for you over the years.

1130
00:51:36,840 --> 00:51:41,120
Speaker 9: Well, I probably started when when my NBA playing career

1131
00:51:41,160 --> 00:51:42,000
Speaker 9: began in Boston.

1132
00:51:42,120 --> 00:51:45,400
Speaker 10: You know, we we were a team that had.

1133
00:51:45,719 --> 00:51:48,080
Speaker 9: A lot of great players. You know, I think four

1134
00:51:48,280 --> 00:51:50,560
Speaker 9: or five Paul of famers.

1135
00:51:50,280 --> 00:51:52,160
Speaker 10: When I first got there, and then we traded for

1136
00:51:52,239 --> 00:51:52,840
Speaker 10: Bill Walton.

1137
00:51:52,960 --> 00:51:55,239
Speaker 9: I think he became the fifth or sixth and so,

1138
00:51:56,520 --> 00:51:59,160
Speaker 9: you know, he had a simple plan offensively, it was

1139
00:51:59,280 --> 00:52:01,040
Speaker 9: to play were the best players.

1140
00:52:01,880 --> 00:52:02,000
Speaker 10: Uh.

1141
00:52:02,239 --> 00:52:05,000
Speaker 9: We had plays, but we didn't call a lot of plays.

1142
00:52:06,040 --> 00:52:10,960
Speaker 9: And that's kind of how the game functions. And I

1143
00:52:11,080 --> 00:52:12,640
Speaker 9: told the story. I don't know if I told on

1144
00:52:12,719 --> 00:52:15,359
Speaker 9: this show or not, but you know, when I went

1145
00:52:15,440 --> 00:52:16,640
Speaker 9: from Boston.

1146
00:52:16,680 --> 00:52:17,840
Speaker 10: To the New York Knicks.

1147
00:52:20,040 --> 00:52:21,920
Speaker 9: You know, Rick Bettina was the coach of the Knicks

1148
00:52:21,960 --> 00:52:24,680
Speaker 9: and and Stu Jackson was one of his assistants. And

1149
00:52:25,600 --> 00:52:30,320
Speaker 9: you know, these guys were meticulous game planners. You know,

1150
00:52:30,400 --> 00:52:33,280
Speaker 9: they were the best of the best in terms of detail.

1151
00:52:34,120 --> 00:52:37,080
Speaker 9: And Stu came to be with you know, three or

1152
00:52:37,160 --> 00:52:41,280
Speaker 9: four paid diagram sheet pages of actions.

1153
00:52:42,400 --> 00:52:44,200
Speaker 10: He said, what are these calls?

1154
00:52:45,280 --> 00:52:47,880
Speaker 9: And he had all these different things that were happening,

1155
00:52:48,040 --> 00:52:52,640
Speaker 9: and I said, uh, I said, Stu, they're just just playing.

1156
00:52:52,920 --> 00:52:56,160
Speaker 9: I mean, he goes, these aren't plays. I said, no,

1157
00:52:56,320 --> 00:52:59,200
Speaker 9: They're just they just they just played the game. This

1158
00:52:59,400 --> 00:53:03,400
Speaker 9: is really a flowing kind of freelance team He's like, not, no,

1159
00:53:03,560 --> 00:53:06,200
Speaker 9: that can't be right, you know. And so anyway that

1160
00:53:06,480 --> 00:53:11,120
Speaker 9: was and you know, we were finals three three out

1161
00:53:11,160 --> 00:53:13,279
Speaker 9: of three years, won the championship in eighty six.

1162
00:53:13,520 --> 00:53:17,879
Speaker 10: And yeah, I just became a strong believer.

1163
00:53:17,719 --> 00:53:21,800
Speaker 9: In that and that kind of player empowerment, et cetera.

1164
00:53:21,960 --> 00:53:24,080
Speaker 9: And then you know, as I moved on and coaching,

1165
00:53:25,800 --> 00:53:28,560
Speaker 9: you know, with as an assistant and a head coach,

1166
00:53:28,600 --> 00:53:33,239
Speaker 9: you know, I just was a was a believer in

1167
00:53:34,400 --> 00:53:39,240
Speaker 9: this kind of approach. And you know I've said this also,

1168
00:53:40,120 --> 00:53:44,400
Speaker 9: you know, my my background with music, you know, I

1169
00:53:44,920 --> 00:53:46,480
Speaker 9: you know, I learned how to play the piano and

1170
00:53:46,680 --> 00:53:51,200
Speaker 9: and and I'm really I'm really drawn to improvisational jazz

1171
00:53:51,360 --> 00:53:55,600
Speaker 9: because you listen to the same song, and every every

1172
00:53:55,719 --> 00:53:58,840
Speaker 9: time you listen to it sounds a little different. And

1173
00:54:01,040 --> 00:54:04,160
Speaker 9: when you get immersed in us in music a certain way,

1174
00:54:05,440 --> 00:54:08,040
Speaker 9: that's how you see it. And and that's music has

1175
00:54:08,120 --> 00:54:11,560
Speaker 9: probably influenced my view of the of the of basketball

1176
00:54:11,600 --> 00:54:15,600
Speaker 9: as well. You know, defenses are so sophisticated trying to

1177
00:54:15,680 --> 00:54:19,200
Speaker 9: figure out how to guard situations, et cetera. You know,

1178
00:54:19,280 --> 00:54:22,359
Speaker 9: I just always feel like the more we can make

1179
00:54:22,440 --> 00:54:27,000
Speaker 9: the the game offensively look different every time down, the more.

1180
00:54:26,960 --> 00:54:28,640
Speaker 10: Difficult it's going to be for the defense.

1181
00:54:28,680 --> 00:54:32,480
Speaker 9: And so you know, all that stuff has has has

1182
00:54:32,560 --> 00:54:35,480
Speaker 9: influenced me. You know, my my team's in Dallas were

1183
00:54:36,520 --> 00:54:39,120
Speaker 9: we're we're very good flow teams. And look, we had

1184
00:54:39,160 --> 00:54:41,680
Speaker 9: great players, you know, we had we had Newitsky, we

1185
00:54:41,840 --> 00:54:45,520
Speaker 9: had Kid, we had Jason Terry and and others.

1186
00:54:46,160 --> 00:54:48,160
Speaker 10: And here, you know, it's been it's.

1187
00:54:48,040 --> 00:54:52,600
Speaker 9: Been Tyreesee, you know, Pascal and and TJ. McConnell has

1188
00:54:52,600 --> 00:54:54,919
Speaker 9: been a big part of it. And of course Miles

1189
00:54:55,000 --> 00:54:57,320
Speaker 9: Turner was a part of it. He's moved on and

1190
00:54:57,440 --> 00:55:00,759
Speaker 9: so now now we've got to change the recipe to

1191
00:55:01,080 --> 00:55:02,640
Speaker 9: to the to the person.

1192
00:55:02,480 --> 00:55:03,320
Speaker 10: That we have available.

1193
00:55:03,480 --> 00:55:07,520
Speaker 9: So this is gonna look different, and it'll be a

1194
00:55:07,600 --> 00:55:10,320
Speaker 9: work in progress, you know, on certain on certain levels.

1195
00:55:10,400 --> 00:55:16,560
Speaker 9: But I want our system to be a really fun

1196
00:55:16,680 --> 00:55:18,960
Speaker 9: system to play in and for players to feel like

1197
00:55:19,760 --> 00:55:22,480
Speaker 9: they have real influence on what happens out there.

1198
00:55:22,719 --> 00:55:25,000
Speaker 10: And so that's where we're.

1199
00:55:24,840 --> 00:55:29,040
Speaker 1: At rick to that point about your offense, we know

1200
00:55:29,080 --> 00:55:31,400
Speaker 1: a lot of it will go through Andrew Nimhard in

1201
00:55:31,680 --> 00:55:34,279
Speaker 1: your core four, But how do you view the center

1202
00:55:34,280 --> 00:55:36,239
Speaker 1: position right now? And I guess what are you hoping

1203
00:55:36,280 --> 00:55:38,840
Speaker 1: to get out of the censor of bi committee approach.

1204
00:55:41,040 --> 00:55:44,239
Speaker 9: Yeah, I'm not even sure who's going to start right

1205
00:55:44,360 --> 00:55:48,320
Speaker 9: this second. The Isaiah Jackson started all four games, so

1206
00:55:48,760 --> 00:55:50,120
Speaker 9: certainly there's a possibility that.

1207
00:55:50,120 --> 00:55:50,880
Speaker 10: He could be the starter.

1208
00:55:53,360 --> 00:55:56,719
Speaker 9: We've got to figure out, you know, who who fits where,

1209
00:55:57,440 --> 00:56:01,680
Speaker 9: and there will be there will be challenges with this.

1210
00:56:02,840 --> 00:56:06,560
Speaker 9: You know, I've I've mentioned this before. I'm sure if

1211
00:56:06,560 --> 00:56:09,000
Speaker 9: it's been in this show, but you know, I've had

1212
00:56:09,000 --> 00:56:11,879
Speaker 9: a center by committee situation one year in Dallas when

1213
00:56:11,960 --> 00:56:15,239
Speaker 9: we had a successful year and you know, it took

1214
00:56:15,320 --> 00:56:17,480
Speaker 9: San Antonio to seven games in the first round of

1215
00:56:17,520 --> 00:56:21,200
Speaker 9: the year. They won at fourteen with guys that were,

1216
00:56:21,760 --> 00:56:25,000
Speaker 9: you know, not household names, but they were guys that

1217
00:56:25,080 --> 00:56:27,120
Speaker 9: were very good at what they did. So, you know,

1218
00:56:27,239 --> 00:56:31,480
Speaker 9: Sam Dallenbart was a great shot blocker and defender. Dwan

1219
00:56:31,600 --> 00:56:34,000
Speaker 9: Blair was a guy that had great feel, and he

1220
00:56:34,040 --> 00:56:36,520
Speaker 9: had a big body and he banged with some of

1221
00:56:36,560 --> 00:56:39,200
Speaker 9: the bigger centers and he was a great rebounder. And

1222
00:56:39,280 --> 00:56:41,960
Speaker 9: then Brandon Wright was one of the best rim threats

1223
00:56:42,000 --> 00:56:45,640
Speaker 9: that I've ever seen in the NBA and certainly ever coached.

1224
00:56:45,719 --> 00:56:49,239
Speaker 9: So it was it was rare in a game that

1225
00:56:49,400 --> 00:56:54,160
Speaker 9: year and we're in a playoff game that all three

1226
00:56:54,239 --> 00:56:58,400
Speaker 9: of them didn't play some minutes, So I don't know

1227
00:56:58,440 --> 00:57:01,440
Speaker 9: if it's gonna look like that. You know, We've got Isaiah,

1228
00:57:01,520 --> 00:57:05,120
Speaker 9: We've got Jay Huff who we traded for who's who's

1229
00:57:05,160 --> 00:57:05,839
Speaker 9: a stretch big.

1230
00:57:06,960 --> 00:57:09,040
Speaker 10: We've got Tony Bradley, who.

1231
00:57:10,120 --> 00:57:12,719
Speaker 9: You know was a very important player for us last

1232
00:57:12,760 --> 00:57:16,200
Speaker 9: year in the playoffs, you know, matching up with guys

1233
00:57:16,280 --> 00:57:19,840
Speaker 9: like Mitchell Robinson and and Jared Allen young as because

1234
00:57:19,840 --> 00:57:22,600
Speaker 9: he's a great rebounder and has great feel and and

1235
00:57:22,760 --> 00:57:25,440
Speaker 9: James Wiseman is in the mix too, and and Wiseman

1236
00:57:25,520 --> 00:57:28,040
Speaker 9: has done some very good things in preseasons. So and

1237
00:57:28,120 --> 00:57:31,000
Speaker 9: then and then we have Obi Toppen, who played you know,

1238
00:57:31,040 --> 00:57:34,920
Speaker 9: a pretty significant number of minutes at five during the

1239
00:57:34,960 --> 00:57:37,880
Speaker 9: regular season as well as the playoffs last year. So

1240
00:57:38,400 --> 00:57:40,160
Speaker 9: you know, there's a lot of there's a lot of

1241
00:57:40,240 --> 00:57:44,320
Speaker 9: options there and uh, and so we'll have to see

1242
00:57:44,360 --> 00:57:49,560
Speaker 9: how it all shakes out. But there's great opportunity and uh,

1243
00:57:50,000 --> 00:57:52,040
Speaker 9: the guys who are working hard, so we'll see what's what.

1244
00:57:53,240 --> 00:57:56,120
Speaker 1: Again, we have Rick carl Out, Indiana Pacers head coach,

1245
00:57:56,200 --> 00:57:59,320
Speaker 1: joining us on the Pilosicar's hot line right now, and Rick,

1246
00:57:59,520 --> 00:58:02,479
Speaker 1: A lot of us have tuned into the Starting five

1247
00:58:02,760 --> 00:58:06,040
Speaker 1: Netflix documentary on Tyre's Halliburton and the field the players

1248
00:58:06,040 --> 00:58:08,320
Speaker 1: in the NBA. I know you mentioned throughout the playoffs

1249
00:58:08,560 --> 00:58:11,000
Speaker 1: how much you loved or did not love the cameras

1250
00:58:11,040 --> 00:58:13,120
Speaker 1: being around you at all moments of the day. But

1251
00:58:13,200 --> 00:58:16,240
Speaker 1: as someone who experienced it firsthand, do you tune into

1252
00:58:16,280 --> 00:58:18,240
Speaker 1: those types of series? Are you someone who's just like,

1253
00:58:18,320 --> 00:58:20,240
Speaker 1: you know what, I have my fix living it out

1254
00:58:20,240 --> 00:58:20,760
Speaker 1: in real life?

1255
00:58:23,280 --> 00:58:26,400
Speaker 9: Yeah, right now, I've got other things I'm focusing on.

1256
00:58:28,280 --> 00:58:31,440
Speaker 9: But I've heard it's very good, and I've heard that

1257
00:58:32,520 --> 00:58:36,960
Speaker 9: it's it's it's very compelling. I mean, certainly, certainly have

1258
00:58:37,760 --> 00:58:41,880
Speaker 9: certainly had a lot of footage to to choose from,

1259
00:58:42,280 --> 00:58:44,280
Speaker 9: and I know, I know a lot of the vast

1260
00:58:44,360 --> 00:58:48,840
Speaker 9: majority of it was not even around our facility or

1261
00:58:48,920 --> 00:58:51,560
Speaker 9: our team in our you know, in the hotel and

1262
00:58:51,640 --> 00:58:54,120
Speaker 9: stuff like that. A lot of them it was off site,

1263
00:58:54,320 --> 00:58:57,240
Speaker 9: you know, at h at Tyres's home, you know, or

1264
00:58:57,360 --> 00:59:00,280
Speaker 9: with his mom and dad, et cetera. So you know,

1265
00:59:00,360 --> 00:59:04,360
Speaker 9: from a human interest standpoint, I'm sure it's uh, I'm

1266
00:59:04,400 --> 00:59:09,400
Speaker 9: sure it's excellent. And you know now nowadays, the access

1267
00:59:09,560 --> 00:59:13,080
Speaker 9: for that kind of stuff is uh, you know, it's

1268
00:59:13,560 --> 00:59:14,120
Speaker 9: it's it's.

1269
00:59:14,040 --> 00:59:15,880
Speaker 10: Like it's it's it's like never before.

1270
00:59:16,160 --> 00:59:20,280
Speaker 9: And and players are very comfortable with cameras following them

1271
00:59:20,280 --> 00:59:23,840
Speaker 9: around and with microphones on and stuff like that, and

1272
00:59:23,920 --> 00:59:27,640
Speaker 9: it's really it's it's all become a part of this business.

1273
00:59:27,840 --> 00:59:33,200
Speaker 9: And coaching is really not much different, you know, over

1274
00:59:33,240 --> 00:59:36,320
Speaker 9: the years, you know, as I've been president of the

1275
00:59:36,360 --> 00:59:39,760
Speaker 9: Coaches Association the last twenty years and really in seven

1276
00:59:39,880 --> 00:59:43,920
Speaker 9: this is when a lot of the real true access stuff.

1277
00:59:45,560 --> 00:59:46,520
Speaker 10: Came into the foe.

1278
00:59:46,720 --> 00:59:49,480
Speaker 9: You know, I've been I've been telling our coaches for

1279
00:59:49,920 --> 00:59:53,200
Speaker 9: for many years that you know, coaching the games and

1280
00:59:53,320 --> 00:59:56,480
Speaker 9: coaching developing players and all that is going to be

1281
00:59:57,200 --> 00:59:59,360
Speaker 9: is always going to be, you know, the major part

1282
00:59:59,440 --> 01:00:04,120
Speaker 9: of it, uh, you know, being on camera. And you know,

1283
01:00:04,280 --> 01:00:08,400
Speaker 9: in some ways being a content creator. I hate that

1284
01:00:08,560 --> 01:00:11,760
Speaker 9: word because it's one of the it's one of the

1285
01:00:11,880 --> 01:00:15,240
Speaker 9: things that drives people, you know, nuts in our profession,

1286
01:00:16,120 --> 01:00:17,800
Speaker 9: you know, the people that come out with hot takes

1287
01:00:17,800 --> 01:00:18,800
Speaker 9: and all that kind of stuff.

1288
01:00:19,520 --> 01:00:21,120
Speaker 10: But but in a way, it's really true.

1289
01:00:21,200 --> 01:00:23,439
Speaker 9: You know, you're gonna have robotic cameras in the locker room,

1290
01:00:23,720 --> 01:00:25,120
Speaker 9: maybe be a lot of different.

1291
01:00:26,320 --> 01:00:29,160
Speaker 10: Different approaches this year. You know, I think there's gonna

1292
01:00:29,160 --> 01:00:29,320
Speaker 10: be a.

1293
01:00:30,960 --> 01:00:33,520
Speaker 9: A Peacock game every Monday Night where there's gonna be

1294
01:00:33,600 --> 01:00:37,240
Speaker 9: two guys, one guys sitting next right almost on the

1295
01:00:37,320 --> 01:00:39,760
Speaker 9: bench of one team, and another guy's gonna be on

1296
01:00:39,840 --> 01:00:42,960
Speaker 9: the bench of another's Austin Rivers and Robbie Humble, and

1297
01:00:43,640 --> 01:00:45,840
Speaker 9: these guys are gonna be trying to really get into

1298
01:00:45,840 --> 01:00:47,320
Speaker 9: the intimacies of the game.

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Speaker 8: And so.

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Speaker 9: Things are very ambitious in the world of access, which

1301
01:00:54,560 --> 01:00:57,840
Speaker 9: which I completely understand. And uh, you know, this year

1302
01:00:57,920 --> 01:01:01,600
Speaker 9: with with all the new broadcast parts, I mean there's

1303
01:01:01,680 --> 01:01:06,560
Speaker 9: like four or five different carriers of NBA basketball, and

1304
01:01:07,520 --> 01:01:08,360
Speaker 9: on the one hand.

1305
01:01:08,240 --> 01:01:10,480
Speaker 10: It's seems like it might be a bit confusing.

1306
01:01:10,600 --> 01:01:13,120
Speaker 9: On the other hand, I'm sure the network is going

1307
01:01:13,160 --> 01:01:15,320
Speaker 9: to make sure it's it's something that can be sorted

1308
01:01:15,360 --> 01:01:16,080
Speaker 9: out very easily.

1309
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Speaker 2: I get coach, there's probably a little bit of that, Hey,

1310
01:01:18,920 --> 01:01:21,360
Speaker 2: we gotta, you know, move on from last year. But

1311
01:01:21,520 --> 01:01:23,280
Speaker 2: will you guys do anything pre game?

1312
01:01:23,360 --> 01:01:24,000
Speaker 1: I don't to.

1313
01:01:24,120 --> 01:01:26,960
Speaker 2: Honor I don't know full building in there to honor

1314
01:01:27,080 --> 01:01:29,000
Speaker 2: last year's team. I don't know if it's raising a

1315
01:01:29,040 --> 01:01:31,400
Speaker 2: banner for the Eastern Conference Championship or anything like that.

1316
01:01:31,640 --> 01:01:32,240
Speaker 5: Thursday night.

1317
01:01:35,080 --> 01:01:36,760
Speaker 10: My understanding is that there will be.

1318
01:01:38,760 --> 01:01:42,440
Speaker 9: An acknowledgement of the Eastern Conference Championship banner.

1319
01:01:43,520 --> 01:01:44,160
Speaker 8: I don't know.

1320
01:01:44,680 --> 01:01:46,120
Speaker 10: I don't know that it's going to be a long

1321
01:01:46,240 --> 01:01:46,840
Speaker 10: drawn out thing.

1322
01:01:48,920 --> 01:01:53,720
Speaker 9: I do think it's appropriate. You know, we had our

1323
01:01:54,000 --> 01:01:56,440
Speaker 9: annual meeting with all of our doctors last night. We

1324
01:01:56,520 --> 01:02:02,240
Speaker 9: have a very really you know, rare situation. We have

1325
01:02:03,240 --> 01:02:09,040
Speaker 9: specialists from virtually every aspect of medicine that are available

1326
01:02:09,160 --> 01:02:10,920
Speaker 9: to our players.

1327
01:02:12,200 --> 01:02:16,960
Speaker 10: Coaches too, luckily, you know, really on a moment's notice,

1328
01:02:17,200 --> 01:02:19,800
Speaker 10: and so every year we honor them. We bring them

1329
01:02:19,840 --> 01:02:20,720
Speaker 10: together with a dinner.

1330
01:02:20,800 --> 01:02:23,400
Speaker 9: And one of the things that we did last night

1331
01:02:23,560 --> 01:02:25,800
Speaker 9: was all the doctors that they wanted to got a

1332
01:02:25,840 --> 01:02:30,000
Speaker 9: picture with me and Kevin Richard and in the Eastern

1333
01:02:30,080 --> 01:02:33,040
Speaker 9: Conference Championship trophy, which was kind of cool. It's a

1334
01:02:33,080 --> 01:02:36,680
Speaker 9: really nice trophy. It's actually very a bit nicer than

1335
01:02:36,720 --> 01:02:38,160
Speaker 9: the one they gave us in twenty eleven.

1336
01:02:38,240 --> 01:02:40,040
Speaker 10: So that was cool.

1337
01:02:40,160 --> 01:02:43,880
Speaker 9: But yeah, I know, it's hey, last year was last

1338
01:02:43,920 --> 01:02:48,040
Speaker 9: year was really great and there was so much about

1339
01:02:48,080 --> 01:02:54,800
Speaker 9: it that was moving and inspirational, etc. It got our

1340
01:02:54,880 --> 01:03:01,960
Speaker 9: fans really going. But you know, once once that acknowledgement happens, uh,

1341
01:03:02,600 --> 01:03:04,720
Speaker 9: you know, we're into the realities of this year and

1342
01:03:04,800 --> 01:03:06,480
Speaker 9: some of the challenges that we have right off the

1343
01:03:06,560 --> 01:03:08,760
Speaker 9: bat and we're playing the World champions you know, with

1344
01:03:09,120 --> 01:03:10,439
Speaker 9: with Okahoma coming in the year.

1345
01:03:10,480 --> 01:03:10,560
Speaker 8: So.

1346
01:03:12,280 --> 01:03:14,480
Speaker 10: It be a lot going on, but a lot of

1347
01:03:14,560 --> 01:03:15,880
Speaker 10: challenges that we're looking forward to.

1348
01:03:17,120 --> 01:03:18,440
Speaker 1: Last one, I'll let you go out of here.

1349
01:03:18,760 --> 01:03:18,920
Speaker 4: Rick.

1350
01:03:19,360 --> 01:03:21,760
Speaker 1: We saw you get dressed up for your daughter sorority

1351
01:03:22,000 --> 01:03:24,720
Speaker 1: sorority formal, had the boat tie on you used to

1352
01:03:24,720 --> 01:03:26,480
Speaker 1: see ye in then you know, pull over something like

1353
01:03:26,560 --> 01:03:30,600
Speaker 1: that Pacers version. So how awesome was that to just

1354
01:03:30,720 --> 01:03:32,960
Speaker 1: get that slice of life, real life before you get

1355
01:03:33,000 --> 01:03:33,560
Speaker 1: back to the grind.

1356
01:03:36,080 --> 01:03:39,000
Speaker 10: Yeah, it was. It was an amazing night.

1357
01:03:39,120 --> 01:03:43,480
Speaker 9: And uh it's the Kapa Kappa Gamma Sorority parents formal,

1358
01:03:45,880 --> 01:03:49,200
Speaker 9: and it was. It was wonderful, great, a great night

1359
01:03:49,280 --> 01:03:51,800
Speaker 9: in Charlottesville. The weather, the weather there over the last

1360
01:03:51,840 --> 01:03:55,520
Speaker 9: seven weeks, it's been like mid seventies and sunny and

1361
01:03:55,720 --> 01:03:56,680
Speaker 9: just a late breeze.

1362
01:03:56,720 --> 01:03:59,120
Speaker 10: It's just been unreal.

1363
01:03:59,200 --> 01:04:02,000
Speaker 9: It's it's one of the most bucolic places you're ever

1364
01:04:02,080 --> 01:04:06,120
Speaker 9: gonna find in life. And uh and getting to spend

1365
01:04:06,200 --> 01:04:10,440
Speaker 9: that that evening with her was really special. So very

1366
01:04:10,520 --> 01:04:12,320
Speaker 9: grateful to the organization.

1367
01:04:12,080 --> 01:04:18,479
Speaker 10: For saying, yeah, that's okay to do that. And uh chee.

1368
01:04:18,560 --> 01:04:21,800
Speaker 2: Asking you more of a petting zoo party guy at

1369
01:04:21,920 --> 01:04:23,840
Speaker 2: u v A or you more of a get dressed

1370
01:04:23,920 --> 01:04:25,000
Speaker 2: up for the formal guy.

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01:04:27,000 --> 01:04:27,600
Speaker 10: Well, I don't know.

1372
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Speaker 9: I wouldn't even know begin to know how to answer

1373
01:04:30,680 --> 01:04:34,600
Speaker 9: that question. I think for the for the for the uh,

1374
01:04:35,800 --> 01:04:39,360
Speaker 9: I think i'd have to say probably as little as

1375
01:04:39,440 --> 01:04:41,760
Speaker 9: I like to get dressed up, probably a little more

1376
01:04:41,840 --> 01:04:46,880
Speaker 9: of a formal of a parent's formal person than.

1377
01:04:46,920 --> 01:04:47,520
Speaker 8: Uh, you know.

1378
01:04:49,040 --> 01:04:53,240
Speaker 9: What do they call it the petting zoo or whatever

1379
01:04:53,320 --> 01:04:55,560
Speaker 9: it was? You know, I ended up one at one

1380
01:04:55,560 --> 01:04:59,080
Speaker 9: of those parties last year, But you know that's that's

1381
01:04:59,200 --> 01:05:00,680
Speaker 9: unlikely to have the future.

1382
01:05:01,320 --> 01:05:03,960
Speaker 2: Well, he looks sharp and certainly looked like an awesome

1383
01:05:04,000 --> 01:05:07,320
Speaker 2: moment for you guys. Over the weekend again, Pacers Thunder

1384
01:05:07,360 --> 01:05:10,120
Speaker 2: starting Thursday night inside a Gamebridge Field House, and we

1385
01:05:10,240 --> 01:05:12,840
Speaker 2: are very very appreciative of Tuesdays eight o'clock with the

1386
01:05:12,880 --> 01:05:14,920
Speaker 2: head coach of the Pacers, Rick Carlisle, coach, Thank you,

1387
01:05:15,040 --> 01:05:18,280
Speaker 2: good luck and we'll talk to you next week. All right, guys,

1388
01:05:18,320 --> 01:05:21,800
Speaker 2: take care Rick Carlisle Payless Liquors hot line a ton

1389
01:05:21,920 --> 01:05:24,320
Speaker 2: to recap from that, but Mark Dyton, let's go ahead

1390
01:05:24,320 --> 01:05:26,080
Speaker 2: and check it out the.

1391
01:05:26,240 --> 01:05:29,520
Speaker 4: Morning Checkdown on ninety sweet five and one oh seven

1392
01:05:29,640 --> 01:05:30,600
Speaker 4: five the fan.

1393
01:05:31,360 --> 01:05:32,560
Speaker 1: As Kevin tell him, I'm going to go.

1394
01:05:33,200 --> 01:05:35,160
Speaker 7: Game number one for the twenty five to twenty six

1395
01:05:35,200 --> 01:05:37,360
Speaker 7: season comes your way Thursday night over at the field

1396
01:05:37,440 --> 01:05:40,400
Speaker 7: House against Oklahoma City. And of course the big news,

1397
01:05:40,520 --> 01:05:44,800
Speaker 7: James Aaron Nesmith signs a two year, forty million dollar extension.

1398
01:05:45,320 --> 01:05:47,320
Speaker 7: He'll be around for a couple of more years, right

1399
01:05:47,400 --> 01:05:48,920
Speaker 7: along with Tyrese Haliburton rat.

1400
01:05:49,200 --> 01:05:51,800
Speaker 1: Yes, I believe he is under contract to the twenty

1401
01:05:51,880 --> 01:05:54,760
Speaker 1: twenty eight to twenty nine season, which will put him

1402
01:05:54,760 --> 01:05:56,320
Speaker 1: at about thirty years old, so right in the middle

1403
01:05:56,320 --> 01:05:59,080
Speaker 1: of his prime still, and I think it's well deserved

1404
01:05:59,360 --> 01:06:02,880
Speaker 1: bonus raise for a player who, like Rick Carlo laid Out,

1405
01:06:02,920 --> 01:06:04,640
Speaker 1: has really come into his own here with the Pacers.

1406
01:06:05,000 --> 01:06:08,440
Speaker 7: And one contract that didn't get extended yesterday by the

1407
01:06:08,560 --> 01:06:12,520
Speaker 7: NBA deadline before the season started was that of Aaron Nice,

1408
01:06:12,760 --> 01:06:16,160
Speaker 7: not Aaron Eistmith, but Benedict Matherin. Are you a little

1409
01:06:16,200 --> 01:06:17,760
Speaker 7: surprised that that one didn't get done.

1410
01:06:17,960 --> 01:06:19,320
Speaker 2: I'm not, you know, I think we've talked about all

1411
01:06:19,360 --> 01:06:21,560
Speaker 2: off season long. I think for both parties it made

1412
01:06:21,600 --> 01:06:23,920
Speaker 2: some sense to probably let this season play out. It's

1413
01:06:23,920 --> 01:06:26,320
Speaker 2: a hell of an opportunity for Matherin. It's a pretty

1414
01:06:26,480 --> 01:06:29,240
Speaker 2: unique one just based off how you've utilized him in

1415
01:06:29,360 --> 01:06:31,520
Speaker 2: years past. So it's going to be a storyline all

1416
01:06:31,600 --> 01:06:33,680
Speaker 2: year long. The Pacers need him to carry a big

1417
01:06:33,720 --> 01:06:36,520
Speaker 2: time scoring burden, and as Ray Carlos said, does many

1418
01:06:36,560 --> 01:06:39,320
Speaker 2: times need him to do some other stuff to Really

1419
01:06:39,400 --> 01:06:41,360
Speaker 2: I think they kind of satisfy what they're looking for.

1420
01:06:41,600 --> 01:06:43,600
Speaker 2: So I can't wait for Thursday night. We should note

1421
01:06:43,640 --> 01:06:46,280
Speaker 2: Thunder play tonight. I believe Jalen Williams, who battled that

1422
01:06:46,360 --> 01:06:49,160
Speaker 2: wrist in the NBA Finals, he's out for tonight to

1423
01:06:49,320 --> 01:06:51,480
Speaker 2: just something to keep an eye on as the Pacers

1424
01:06:51,520 --> 01:06:53,680
Speaker 2: walking the Thunder coming up on Thursday.

1425
01:06:54,120 --> 01:06:56,600
Speaker 7: All right. National Football League had a doubleheader last night

1426
01:06:56,640 --> 01:06:59,600
Speaker 7: on Monday Night football. First game went to the Detroit Lions.

1427
01:06:59,680 --> 01:07:01,720
Speaker 7: They were winning your winners at home against the Tampa

1428
01:07:01,760 --> 01:07:04,440
Speaker 7: Bay Buccaneers twenty four to nine. The final score there

1429
01:07:04,520 --> 01:07:08,280
Speaker 7: Jamiir Gibbs seventeen carries one hundred and thirty six yards

1430
01:07:08,360 --> 01:07:12,000
Speaker 7: two touchdowns. That team looked good last night. Meanwhile, the

1431
01:07:12,040 --> 01:07:14,840
Speaker 7: Seahawks won the nightcap over the Houston Texans twenty seven

1432
01:07:14,920 --> 01:07:18,040
Speaker 7: to nineteen. That always helps when an AFC South team loses.

1433
01:07:18,080 --> 01:07:20,320
Speaker 7: For the Indianapolis Colts, who are six and one, and

1434
01:07:20,440 --> 01:07:23,520
Speaker 7: they'll be hosting an AFC South opponent on Sunday for

1435
01:07:23,720 --> 01:07:28,000
Speaker 7: twenty five late kickoff against the Tennessee Titans. You don't

1436
01:07:28,000 --> 01:07:30,440
Speaker 7: expect to see a lot of Titans Colts games at

1437
01:07:30,440 --> 01:07:31,880
Speaker 7: four to twenty five in the afternoon.

1438
01:07:31,960 --> 01:07:35,400
Speaker 1: James I told you that one pm is God's time

1439
01:07:35,680 --> 01:07:37,360
Speaker 1: when it comes to football. So the fact that this

1440
01:07:37,400 --> 01:07:38,960
Speaker 1: game's kicking off at four twenty five is a sin

1441
01:07:39,200 --> 01:07:41,480
Speaker 1: in my opinion on a Sunday, But looking forward to

1442
01:07:41,520 --> 01:07:43,400
Speaker 1: be a bag of Lucas Oil Stadium and a chance

1443
01:07:43,480 --> 01:07:45,080
Speaker 1: to move to seven to one on the year. And

1444
01:07:45,080 --> 01:07:47,640
Speaker 1: I expect that to be the case, considering just how

1445
01:07:47,720 --> 01:07:49,360
Speaker 1: much of the Titans have struggling, how much the Colts

1446
01:07:49,400 --> 01:07:50,520
Speaker 1: have been rolling teams.

1447
01:07:50,600 --> 01:07:52,720
Speaker 7: All Right, we know who the participants in the twenty

1448
01:07:52,800 --> 01:07:55,080
Speaker 7: twenty five World Series are going to be. The Dodgers.

1449
01:07:55,480 --> 01:07:58,200
Speaker 7: After getting a sweep of the Milwaukee Brewers are already

1450
01:07:58,240 --> 01:08:01,080
Speaker 7: waiting for now the Toronto Blue Jay who won Game

1451
01:08:01,200 --> 01:08:03,840
Speaker 7: seven of the ALCS last night on a three run

1452
01:08:03,920 --> 01:08:07,080
Speaker 7: home run in the bottom of the seventh from George Springer.

1453
01:08:07,360 --> 01:08:09,280
Speaker 7: They beat the Mariners by the score of four to three.

1454
01:08:09,360 --> 01:08:10,920
Speaker 7: They go to the World Series for the third time

1455
01:08:10,960 --> 01:08:14,680
Speaker 7: in franchise history, denying the Mariners their first ever chance

1456
01:08:14,800 --> 01:08:17,800
Speaker 7: to play in the World Series. Two games tonight to

1457
01:08:17,880 --> 01:08:20,360
Speaker 7: kick off the i should say tip off the NBA season.

1458
01:08:20,640 --> 01:08:23,800
Speaker 7: Houston Rockets and Oklahoma Oklahoma City thunder play at seven

1459
01:08:23,960 --> 01:08:27,080
Speaker 7: thirty Golden State Warriors Los Angeles Lakers at ten. Both

1460
01:08:27,160 --> 01:08:30,600
Speaker 7: games can be seen on NBC or Peacock tonight for

1461
01:08:30,720 --> 01:08:32,680
Speaker 7: your viewing pleasure. You were just talking about all the

1462
01:08:32,760 --> 01:08:35,800
Speaker 7: different streaming services that the NBA is offering this year.

1463
01:08:36,000 --> 01:08:37,960
Speaker 7: Rick was very bullish on that. He was like, you'll

1464
01:08:37,960 --> 01:08:38,479
Speaker 7: figure it out.

1465
01:08:38,640 --> 01:08:41,599
Speaker 2: Yeah, the Humble Austin Rivers thing sounds a bit unique.

1466
01:08:41,600 --> 01:08:43,320
Speaker 2: I'll be curious how that exactly plays out.

1467
01:08:43,479 --> 01:08:44,559
Speaker 5: So seemingly.

1468
01:08:44,640 --> 01:08:46,599
Speaker 2: Robbi Hummell, I think has done every Purdue in Indiana

1469
01:08:46,680 --> 01:08:48,639
Speaker 2: game that I've watched over the last three years.

1470
01:08:48,880 --> 01:08:51,800
Speaker 5: I can only imagine how busy his schedule now continues.

1471
01:08:51,439 --> 01:08:54,120
Speaker 7: To be and Michael Jordan will be a special contributor

1472
01:08:54,640 --> 01:08:56,840
Speaker 7: on NBC all year long. Nobody knows what that means.

1473
01:08:57,160 --> 01:08:59,720
Speaker 2: A couple other things I'll add on IMS Oval test scene.

1474
01:09:00,040 --> 01:09:02,080
Speaker 2: It's a ton of guys out there the next two days,

1475
01:09:02,240 --> 01:09:04,360
Speaker 2: but you will have I think it's a little bit

1476
01:09:04,400 --> 01:09:07,280
Speaker 2: more equipment related, some changes. I think it'll turn two.

1477
01:09:07,360 --> 01:09:09,640
Speaker 2: I saw so you hear some cars over there at

1478
01:09:09,640 --> 01:09:12,679
Speaker 2: sixteenth and Georgetown. And again, the best to Matthew Graves,

1479
01:09:12,760 --> 01:09:14,720
Speaker 2: head coach of the Indiana State Sycamores. I think the

1480
01:09:14,840 --> 01:09:17,720
Speaker 2: Graves family is well known around this state when it

1481
01:09:17,760 --> 01:09:20,200
Speaker 2: comes to basketball lore, and by all accounts, Matthew Graves

1482
01:09:20,280 --> 01:09:25,200
Speaker 2: is a terrific individual. He underwent triple bypass surgery on

1483
01:09:25,400 --> 01:09:28,880
Speaker 2: Monday morning out there in terre Hot, so going to

1484
01:09:28,920 --> 01:09:31,200
Speaker 2: take a leave of absence. Best to him and his

1485
01:09:31,360 --> 01:09:35,639
Speaker 2: family here. Mark Slessinger, Ellsville's own, will be the acting

1486
01:09:35,680 --> 01:09:37,800
Speaker 2: head coach here for the Sycamores as they get started.

1487
01:09:37,960 --> 01:09:39,320
Speaker 7: Anything else you want to throw in, JB.

1488
01:09:40,160 --> 01:09:42,439
Speaker 1: No, I think that is all that I have. I'm

1489
01:09:42,479 --> 01:09:45,200
Speaker 1: just looking forward to getting back at it when it

1490
01:09:45,280 --> 01:09:47,840
Speaker 1: comes to colts practice tomorrow and seeing if they can

1491
01:09:47,960 --> 01:09:48,920
Speaker 1: keep the street going.

1492
01:09:48,800 --> 01:09:50,479
Speaker 7: All right, we'll talk more about the Colts, the current

1493
01:09:50,520 --> 01:09:53,080
Speaker 7: injury situation, more on all of the conversation the guys

1494
01:09:53,120 --> 01:09:55,400
Speaker 7: had with Rick Carlisle. Coming up in just a minute.

1495
01:09:55,479 --> 01:09:55,800
Speaker 4: Joel A.

1496
01:09:56,040 --> 01:09:59,439
Speaker 7: Erickson talks Colts in the NFL at nine o'clock. It's

1497
01:09:59,520 --> 01:10:02,920
Speaker 7: all right, good dear for Rick Carlisle, a head coach

1498
01:10:02,960 --> 01:10:05,600
Speaker 7: of the Indiana Pacers with JB and KB. Just a

1499
01:10:05,680 --> 01:10:08,400
Speaker 7: moment ago and talking about a number of things as

1500
01:10:08,439 --> 01:10:10,920
Speaker 7: we get ready to move on to the season, as

1501
01:10:10,960 --> 01:10:14,760
Speaker 7: far as depth and injuries and all those things was

1502
01:10:14,880 --> 01:10:16,879
Speaker 7: so much up in the air. What was your big takeaway,

1503
01:10:17,000 --> 01:10:20,479
Speaker 7: James from the way he sees rotations at the first

1504
01:10:20,520 --> 01:10:21,200
Speaker 7: part of the season.

1505
01:10:21,680 --> 01:10:23,439
Speaker 1: Well, I think it was a couple of things. It

1506
01:10:23,680 --> 01:10:27,080
Speaker 1: was still being very fluid when it comes to who

1507
01:10:27,240 --> 01:10:29,840
Speaker 1: is going to help alleviate some of that point guard

1508
01:10:29,920 --> 01:10:33,439
Speaker 1: pressure on Andrew Nimhar, especially considering the injuries to that

1509
01:10:33,600 --> 01:10:36,639
Speaker 1: position right now, and then also at center, not really

1510
01:10:36,760 --> 01:10:40,960
Speaker 1: having a sets answer there. He said, Hey, Isaiah Jackson

1511
01:10:41,000 --> 01:10:43,080
Speaker 1: started all four games. I believe we're in the preseason,

1512
01:10:43,600 --> 01:10:46,760
Speaker 1: but we're still open to, you know, looking at what

1513
01:10:46,840 --> 01:10:50,000
Speaker 1: other guys maybe have to offer, and so those are

1514
01:10:50,040 --> 01:10:53,040
Speaker 1: the two, I guess team related things that I'm most

1515
01:10:53,080 --> 01:10:56,400
Speaker 1: focused on. And then obviously Kevin. He did give I

1516
01:10:56,520 --> 01:10:58,680
Speaker 1: think a pretty thorough update on Cam Jones and his

1517
01:10:58,800 --> 01:10:59,519
Speaker 1: arrest yesterday.

1518
01:10:59,600 --> 01:10:59,800
Speaker 7: Yeah.

1519
01:10:59,840 --> 01:11:01,920
Speaker 2: I didn't get the vibe at all, James that they

1520
01:11:01,960 --> 01:11:04,320
Speaker 2: are all of a sudden making a point guard move

1521
01:11:04,360 --> 01:11:07,080
Speaker 2: in the next hour before they start practice here coming

1522
01:11:07,160 --> 01:11:09,040
Speaker 2: up at twelve thirty. You know, sometimes you see this,

1523
01:11:09,360 --> 01:11:11,479
Speaker 2: you know NFL for example, and I get the rosters

1524
01:11:11,520 --> 01:11:14,080
Speaker 2: are much bigger, but you set the initial roster and

1525
01:11:14,120 --> 01:11:16,719
Speaker 2: then you tinker with it a little bit and maybe

1526
01:11:16,760 --> 01:11:20,320
Speaker 2: they will. But it didn't sound like four centers right now,

1527
01:11:21,160 --> 01:11:23,800
Speaker 2: really one. I guess two in Ray j Dennis healthy

1528
01:11:24,120 --> 01:11:26,560
Speaker 2: point guards and Rag's on a two way deal. It

1529
01:11:26,640 --> 01:11:28,879
Speaker 2: doesn't sound like a huge amount of urgency to necessarily

1530
01:11:28,960 --> 01:11:31,240
Speaker 2: go out there and add the next Cameron Pay, the

1531
01:11:31,320 --> 01:11:33,479
Speaker 2: next to one, right, the next Monte Morris, et cetera,

1532
01:11:34,040 --> 01:11:36,680
Speaker 2: et cetera. So that's I think a question a lot

1533
01:11:36,760 --> 01:11:39,880
Speaker 2: of fans had with Thursday night. You get in here,

1534
01:11:39,920 --> 01:11:43,439
Speaker 2: and yeah, I would say the Cam Jones thing. I

1535
01:11:43,439 --> 01:11:46,840
Speaker 2: don't know, Rick probably, I don't know, downplayed it or

1536
01:11:47,040 --> 01:11:48,720
Speaker 2: I don't know thought it was a tad overblown. I

1537
01:11:48,760 --> 01:11:51,679
Speaker 2: think that's I'm paraphrasing. Obviously, we'll play that audio maybe

1538
01:11:51,720 --> 01:11:54,160
Speaker 2: coming up in the nine o'clock hour, But he doesn't

1539
01:11:54,160 --> 01:11:58,320
Speaker 2: seem to be too concerned by yesterday's Cam Jones arrest.

1540
01:11:58,400 --> 01:11:59,760
Speaker 7: Now, I basically said, at the end of the day,

1541
01:11:59,760 --> 01:12:03,160
Speaker 7: it probably end up being a speeding ticket, right, That's

1542
01:12:03,240 --> 01:12:04,680
Speaker 7: kind of what he said. So we'll keep an eye

1543
01:12:04,760 --> 01:12:07,519
Speaker 7: on that and figure out what the the Pacers have

1544
01:12:07,640 --> 01:12:10,519
Speaker 7: to do with as far as I think, again, just

1545
01:12:10,720 --> 01:12:13,400
Speaker 7: death more than anything. Starting off the season, I don't mind.

1546
01:12:14,040 --> 01:12:16,599
Speaker 7: I think there's probably times to see Obi Topping joining

1547
01:12:16,680 --> 01:12:17,280
Speaker 7: some of those guys.

1548
01:12:17,360 --> 01:12:20,160
Speaker 2: I think Obi Topping with the starting five is probably

1549
01:12:20,200 --> 01:12:22,439
Speaker 2: your best five man unit. The question you would have

1550
01:12:22,520 --> 01:12:26,120
Speaker 2: specifically for Thursday night is we know that opponent very

1551
01:12:26,240 --> 01:12:29,320
Speaker 2: very well, and Chet Holmgren and Isaiah Hartenstein are quite Yeah,

1552
01:12:30,320 --> 01:12:31,960
Speaker 2: the big dude, so how do you count? You know,

1553
01:12:32,000 --> 01:12:34,160
Speaker 2: there are some opponents where you can get by, I.

1554
01:12:34,160 --> 01:12:35,840
Speaker 1: Think with the extent I think, but I think that's

1555
01:12:35,840 --> 01:12:38,280
Speaker 1: like the Mimickey kind of lineup, where like you can

1556
01:12:38,439 --> 01:12:41,479
Speaker 1: do it for certain spurts and you can turn to

1557
01:12:41,560 --> 01:12:43,760
Speaker 1: it for a spark like they did Honestly, last year

1558
01:12:43,840 --> 01:12:46,400
Speaker 1: when tiers albur was healthy one Obi played the five.

1559
01:12:46,520 --> 01:12:48,519
Speaker 1: They were running and moving and doing all these things.

1560
01:12:49,000 --> 01:12:51,280
Speaker 1: But we all knew that's not you can't sustain that

1561
01:12:51,400 --> 01:12:53,599
Speaker 1: over a forty eight minute game with Obi at the five.

1562
01:12:53,600 --> 01:12:56,240
Speaker 1: He's just not a center, a true center. So yeah,

1563
01:12:56,360 --> 01:12:58,720
Speaker 1: I would agree there, Kevin, But man, I'm like, uh,

1564
01:12:58,960 --> 01:13:01,000
Speaker 1: you know, there's certain things you can't make up for

1565
01:13:01,720 --> 01:13:04,200
Speaker 1: when you just don't have the height and the weight

1566
01:13:04,400 --> 01:13:05,680
Speaker 1: and you know the things that.

1567
01:13:06,000 --> 01:13:07,640
Speaker 2: Okay, seeing other teams have to offer when it comes

1568
01:13:07,680 --> 01:13:09,120
Speaker 2: to their big man, well, then taking Obie out of

1569
01:13:09,160 --> 01:13:11,599
Speaker 2: the second unit is also a huge, long good point.

1570
01:13:11,880 --> 01:13:14,439
Speaker 2: You start, well, what your second unit makeup would be

1571
01:13:14,479 --> 01:13:16,920
Speaker 2: without Obie? I mean it's some let's call Ray j

1572
01:13:17,040 --> 01:13:24,120
Speaker 2: Dennis the backup point guard, just to say it, okay, him, Shepherd, Jars, Walker, Furfey,

1573
01:13:24,560 --> 01:13:26,760
Speaker 2: you know some center. I don't know what that would

1574
01:13:26,760 --> 01:13:29,240
Speaker 2: look like if Obi then were to bump up. So

1575
01:13:29,680 --> 01:13:34,280
Speaker 2: definitely some questions. You know, from a starting lineup rotational standpoint,

1576
01:13:34,360 --> 01:13:36,360
Speaker 2: much different than recent years, when you know, for the

1577
01:13:36,439 --> 01:13:38,800
Speaker 2: most part you knew what it was going to be. H.

1578
01:13:39,240 --> 01:13:41,439
Speaker 7: I can't wait for the season just to see how

1579
01:13:42,520 --> 01:13:45,320
Speaker 7: Rick manages all of this, especially with injuries to that

1580
01:13:45,439 --> 01:13:48,679
Speaker 7: second unit to start the season off. And it sounds

1581
01:13:48,760 --> 01:13:50,599
Speaker 7: kind of like all the things that he said today

1582
01:13:50,640 --> 01:13:53,400
Speaker 7: and what I've been reading sounds Kevin like he he's

1583
01:13:53,520 --> 01:13:55,240
Speaker 7: kind of curious to see how it all works out, too.

1584
01:13:55,360 --> 01:13:56,960
Speaker 7: Is he's going to try a bunch of different things

1585
01:13:57,000 --> 01:13:57,479
Speaker 7: to start with?

1586
01:13:58,040 --> 01:14:00,400
Speaker 2: Sure, yeah, I mean I think there's a Yeah, there's

1587
01:14:00,400 --> 01:14:03,000
Speaker 2: an intrigue to that. I'm sure there's a balance between

1588
01:14:03,080 --> 01:14:05,040
Speaker 2: intrigue and you know, he can make you a little

1589
01:14:05,040 --> 01:14:08,680
Speaker 2: maddening of Haliburton Street close. I'd much rather have him

1590
01:14:08,760 --> 01:14:13,040
Speaker 2: not rocking that. And you know, obviously center rotation, Sure

1591
01:14:13,080 --> 01:14:15,760
Speaker 2: he's done it before in Dallas, but Miles Turner is

1592
01:14:16,200 --> 01:14:17,400
Speaker 2: pretty quality player as well.

1593
01:14:17,720 --> 01:14:17,880
Speaker 8: Well.

1594
01:14:18,000 --> 01:14:19,760
Speaker 7: I just know that this is an entertaining team, and

1595
01:14:19,920 --> 01:14:22,439
Speaker 7: I don't know, you know, everybody's talking about thirty seven

1596
01:14:22,479 --> 01:14:25,120
Speaker 7: and a half wins. I still feel like that's an

1597
01:14:25,160 --> 01:14:28,040
Speaker 7: achievable over for the Pacers. I feel good about that.

1598
01:14:28,800 --> 01:14:31,120
Speaker 7: But they're going to have their challenges, there's no question

1599
01:14:31,160 --> 01:14:33,479
Speaker 7: about that, probably against some of the deeper, better teams

1600
01:14:33,960 --> 01:14:35,800
Speaker 7: as time goes on. But I still think that they're

1601
01:14:35,920 --> 01:14:37,960
Speaker 7: gonna be a tough out for anybody that comes in here,

1602
01:14:39,120 --> 01:14:41,040
Speaker 7: especially in the second, third, or fourth game of a

1603
01:14:41,120 --> 01:14:42,840
Speaker 7: road trip, It's going to be tough. They're not going

1604
01:14:42,920 --> 01:14:44,000
Speaker 7: to get out of here easily.

1605
01:14:44,560 --> 01:14:45,479
Speaker 1: By the way, Joel A.

1606
01:14:45,640 --> 01:14:47,599
Speaker 2: Rickson going to join us coming up at nine, James,

1607
01:14:47,640 --> 01:14:49,760
Speaker 2: I know you and I have talked about this one

1608
01:14:49,800 --> 01:14:52,640
Speaker 2: thing we've really Joel does a wonderful job covering in

1609
01:14:52,680 --> 01:14:55,120
Speaker 2: the Colts. One thing in particular, I think he's done

1610
01:14:55,120 --> 01:14:56,800
Speaker 2: a really nice job of here. Within the start of

1611
01:14:56,840 --> 01:15:00,559
Speaker 2: the season, he has published two features on the Orsay

1612
01:15:00,640 --> 01:15:02,880
Speaker 2: daughter so far. I believe the third one on Caitlin

1613
01:15:03,000 --> 01:15:05,720
Speaker 2: Jackson is coming up, but it looks like he's gone

1614
01:15:05,760 --> 01:15:06,400
Speaker 2: in birth.

1615
01:15:06,280 --> 01:15:07,000
Speaker 5: Order, if you will.

1616
01:15:07,120 --> 01:15:09,559
Speaker 2: So he started with Carly who you see of course

1617
01:15:09,600 --> 01:15:13,519
Speaker 2: on the sidelines, and then Casey Foy was last week,

1618
01:15:13,560 --> 01:15:15,880
Speaker 2: I believe, maybe the week prior to that. So among

1619
01:15:16,840 --> 01:15:19,800
Speaker 2: on field Colts items with Joel A. Erickson, I think

1620
01:15:19,840 --> 01:15:21,479
Speaker 2: we'll chat about that with him when he joins us

1621
01:15:21,479 --> 01:15:23,200
Speaker 2: here coming up at nine o'clock.

1622
01:15:23,240 --> 01:15:25,880
Speaker 5: Maybe skip over the baseball mark. Oh what are you

1623
01:15:25,920 --> 01:15:28,439
Speaker 5: talking about his Brewers made to the NLCS. Why when't we.

1624
01:15:28,439 --> 01:15:28,880
Speaker 7: Talk about that?

1625
01:15:29,520 --> 01:15:29,640
Speaker 8: Oh?

1626
01:15:29,720 --> 01:15:31,400
Speaker 1: Man, I'll tell you what are they gonna get a banner?

1627
01:15:32,280 --> 01:15:35,800
Speaker 1: They should? Chris Hagen Fox efty nine. Ah, he goes

1628
01:15:35,840 --> 01:15:38,000
Speaker 1: brutal to Joel. We were on the road in LA.

1629
01:15:38,840 --> 01:15:41,160
Speaker 1: I mean they showed something about the Dodgers being in

1630
01:15:41,200 --> 01:15:44,240
Speaker 1: the World Series at the stay US so far and

1631
01:15:44,360 --> 01:15:48,200
Speaker 1: Hagen's hey, Joe, look up and yeah, I expected to

1632
01:15:48,240 --> 01:15:51,639
Speaker 1: see some punches us in Mississippi State football. He did,

1633
01:15:51,880 --> 01:15:55,040
Speaker 1: he did. But you know Hagen, as a true fan

1634
01:15:55,120 --> 01:15:56,920
Speaker 1: of a losing team, he said, how I'm used to

1635
01:15:57,120 --> 01:15:59,280
Speaker 1: this type of pain. So I'd say, Hagen, if you're listening,

1636
01:15:59,360 --> 01:16:00,880
Speaker 1: but Lord knows he deep in rem sleep.

1637
01:16:00,920 --> 01:16:01,680
Speaker 5: He only shows up there.

1638
01:16:01,760 --> 01:16:03,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, my boy, not getting up before twelve.

1639
01:16:03,400 --> 01:16:07,759
Speaker 7: No, all right, we've got that to talk about Pacers

1640
01:16:07,800 --> 01:16:10,760
Speaker 7: opening night, and of course Indiana is ranked number two

1641
01:16:11,120 --> 01:16:14,840
Speaker 7: in the nation. Kurt Signetti already pumping up UCLA for

1642
01:16:14,920 --> 01:16:16,960
Speaker 7: this week. We'll talk about some of those things next

1643
01:16:17,000 --> 01:16:18,880
Speaker 7: on ninety three five and one oh seven five Fan

1644
01:16:20,360 --> 01:16:22,200
Speaker 7: Good Tuesday morning. Thanks so much for being with us

1645
01:16:22,240 --> 01:16:24,360
Speaker 7: here on the Fan Morning Show. In case you missed it,

1646
01:16:24,479 --> 01:16:27,200
Speaker 7: we'll have it up later today. The Rick Carlisle Conversation

1647
01:16:27,320 --> 01:16:29,960
Speaker 7: with James Wood and Kevin Bowen. What time that usually

1648
01:16:30,000 --> 01:16:31,320
Speaker 7: gets posted marks already.

1649
01:16:31,360 --> 01:16:33,720
Speaker 1: Now look at you, you're on fire, gonna say we

1650
01:16:33,760 --> 01:16:36,400
Speaker 1: should know this about now right fire, But don't look, but.

1651
01:16:36,439 --> 01:16:38,360
Speaker 5: Don't listen to it just yet. Save it for ten

1652
01:16:38,439 --> 01:16:38,760
Speaker 5: oh one.

1653
01:16:40,400 --> 01:16:43,400
Speaker 7: It's good stuff. You want to hear that. And this

1654
01:16:43,600 --> 01:16:45,840
Speaker 7: is I think we all go into this season like,

1655
01:16:46,520 --> 01:16:50,040
Speaker 7: what do we expect. No Miles Turner, no Tyrese Haliburton,

1656
01:16:50,520 --> 01:16:53,040
Speaker 7: everybody banged up in the second unit this You know,

1657
01:16:53,120 --> 01:16:54,920
Speaker 7: it was ten and fifteen for the first twenty five

1658
01:16:54,960 --> 01:16:56,800
Speaker 7: games last year because of some injuries. Are we looking

1659
01:16:56,800 --> 01:17:00,680
Speaker 7: at the same kind of start again? Only anybody know?

1660
01:17:00,720 --> 01:17:02,559
Speaker 7: I mean, obviously we don't know at this point in time,

1661
01:17:02,560 --> 01:17:04,599
Speaker 7: But I just I don't know what to expect other

1662
01:17:04,640 --> 01:17:07,800
Speaker 7: than I think this team, based on the experience of

1663
01:17:07,920 --> 01:17:10,519
Speaker 7: last year, gonna win games that people think that they're

1664
01:17:10,520 --> 01:17:11,280
Speaker 7: not gonna be able to win.

1665
01:17:11,320 --> 01:17:12,600
Speaker 2: You know, I mentioned about an hour ago, and I

1666
01:17:12,680 --> 01:17:15,200
Speaker 2: think Rick Carlisle kind of confirmed that. I think the

1667
01:17:15,240 --> 01:17:16,840
Speaker 2: schedule is really tough out of the gate. I mean

1668
01:17:16,920 --> 01:17:18,880
Speaker 2: not just the thunder opening night, but you go on

1669
01:17:18,960 --> 01:17:22,639
Speaker 2: the road for those first three. I think John Morant

1670
01:17:22,760 --> 01:17:25,360
Speaker 2: is supposed to be healthy. I know Zach Ed's out

1671
01:17:25,400 --> 01:17:27,520
Speaker 2: for the Grizzlies for those I care from a local standpoint,

1672
01:17:27,960 --> 01:17:31,280
Speaker 2: and then you go out Wes pretty early in November.

1673
01:17:31,439 --> 01:17:34,200
Speaker 2: You've got the Miles Turner return game on that Monday there,

1674
01:17:34,479 --> 01:17:36,920
Speaker 2: so you know you're gonna see I think, quite a

1675
01:17:37,000 --> 01:17:39,880
Speaker 2: test here early in the season. So yeah, I mean

1676
01:17:39,920 --> 01:17:41,960
Speaker 2: there definitely could be some growing pains with a lot

1677
01:17:42,000 --> 01:17:46,080
Speaker 2: of new not necessarily new faces, but guys just in new, different,

1678
01:17:46,240 --> 01:17:47,080
Speaker 2: expanded roles.

1679
01:17:47,600 --> 01:17:50,400
Speaker 7: Yeah, and looking forward to Opening Night Thursday, you'll hear

1680
01:17:50,439 --> 01:17:52,240
Speaker 7: it live right here on ninety three five and one

1681
01:17:52,280 --> 01:17:54,400
Speaker 7: on seven to five of the Fan as the Pacers

1682
01:17:54,439 --> 01:17:57,400
Speaker 7: get rolling against the Oklahoma City Thunder and again double

1683
01:17:57,479 --> 01:18:01,439
Speaker 7: header for NBA tonight. Scillee to how interested you in

1684
01:18:01,520 --> 01:18:04,599
Speaker 7: Opening Night on on Network TV NBC Tonight, James.

1685
01:18:05,000 --> 01:18:07,720
Speaker 1: I'm usually pretty high on the opening games as a

1686
01:18:07,760 --> 01:18:10,320
Speaker 1: basketball guy, my first sport that ever loves growing up.

1687
01:18:10,880 --> 01:18:13,160
Speaker 1: And I know Steph Curry is in one of those games.

1688
01:18:13,160 --> 01:18:15,280
Speaker 1: I believe it' supposed to be Steph cran Lebron. Lebron's out,

1689
01:18:15,880 --> 01:18:19,639
Speaker 1: but I think personally, just knowing my era of basketball

1690
01:18:19,680 --> 01:18:20,960
Speaker 1: I grew up on, I'm like, I don't want to

1691
01:18:21,000 --> 01:18:24,920
Speaker 1: miss too many more of the Lebron, Steph Curry kat games,

1692
01:18:25,120 --> 01:18:27,560
Speaker 1: just because they're not going to be here forever. I

1693
01:18:27,600 --> 01:18:29,640
Speaker 1: feel like this is, you know, the last wave of that.

1694
01:18:29,920 --> 01:18:31,960
Speaker 1: So excited to see Steph do his thing for I

1695
01:18:32,000 --> 01:18:34,200
Speaker 1: believe he's going into like his seventeenth year, and I

1696
01:18:34,320 --> 01:18:36,559
Speaker 1: want to say Katie's in his nineteenth year. Lebron's going

1697
01:18:36,600 --> 01:18:39,280
Speaker 1: into twenty three. So yeah, I got to cherish these

1698
01:18:39,320 --> 01:18:40,160
Speaker 1: guys while I still have them.

1699
01:18:40,240 --> 01:18:42,960
Speaker 5: I think the first time you hear ron Ball rock tonight, Yeah,

1700
01:18:43,120 --> 01:18:45,519
Speaker 5: and he goes NBA and then NBC, that's gonna hit

1701
01:18:45,600 --> 01:18:47,120
Speaker 5: like some crack in the eighties.

1702
01:18:50,280 --> 01:18:52,040
Speaker 1: John, That's an interesting way to describe it.

1703
01:18:52,160 --> 01:18:54,120
Speaker 7: But I am looking forward to seeing.

1704
01:18:55,640 --> 01:18:58,960
Speaker 1: I don't know, I've never had the first experience. Remember

1705
01:18:58,960 --> 01:19:01,720
Speaker 1: three year old Mark, the nice line and a card

1706
01:19:02,280 --> 01:19:02,800
Speaker 1: to work here.

1707
01:19:03,600 --> 01:19:06,320
Speaker 5: That's just a core memory of a young sports fan,

1708
01:19:06,439 --> 01:19:10,000
Speaker 5: Mark Dyten, of hearing round Ball this song. Yes, okay,

1709
01:19:10,320 --> 01:19:14,160
Speaker 5: just making sure Albert biting prostitutes and getting ready to

1710
01:19:14,200 --> 01:19:15,599
Speaker 5: call a great basketball game.

1711
01:19:15,720 --> 01:19:19,640
Speaker 7: How did I know you were going to listening? I

1712
01:19:19,840 --> 01:19:21,240
Speaker 7: just how did I know that's.

1713
01:19:21,120 --> 01:19:21,439
Speaker 10: Where you were?

1714
01:19:21,520 --> 01:19:22,599
Speaker 5: On a Wikipedia page?

1715
01:19:22,640 --> 01:19:24,160
Speaker 1: I remember that I was about to say, you know,

1716
01:19:24,479 --> 01:19:26,240
Speaker 1: a couple of days on Wikipedia. Pangs gonna come to

1717
01:19:26,280 --> 01:19:30,080
Speaker 1: a few people out there, Yes, who wins the Eastern Conference? Well,

1718
01:19:30,080 --> 01:19:33,439
Speaker 1: I have this question. I'm going to say this, and

1719
01:19:33,479 --> 01:19:35,640
Speaker 1: I thought I'm going to get booed immediately.

1720
01:19:35,680 --> 01:19:36,360
Speaker 7: If you say it.

1721
01:19:37,280 --> 01:19:38,519
Speaker 5: If I think I know where you're going?

1722
01:19:39,840 --> 01:19:40,320
Speaker 1: The Knicks?

1723
01:19:40,880 --> 01:19:42,880
Speaker 7: Okay, I feel like there.

1724
01:19:43,080 --> 01:19:45,360
Speaker 5: Did you think he was going Mark? I thought he

1725
01:19:45,479 --> 01:19:47,640
Speaker 5: might go Cleveland. I thought he even might go Milwaukee.

1726
01:19:48,000 --> 01:19:49,840
Speaker 2: Oh, I would think more of our audience would want

1727
01:19:50,120 --> 01:19:51,919
Speaker 2: you to boo the Knicks than boo Cleveland.

1728
01:19:53,880 --> 01:19:56,880
Speaker 1: I think it was probably I will go man. I

1729
01:19:57,000 --> 01:19:59,080
Speaker 1: think it's talked up between the Knicks and perhaps the Calves.

1730
01:19:59,240 --> 01:20:02,280
Speaker 1: I mean the Knicks the most personnel back, That's what

1731
01:20:02,320 --> 01:20:07,280
Speaker 1: I'm saying. Yeah, they have a new coach, that is true,

1732
01:20:07,520 --> 01:20:09,920
Speaker 1: but taking a team to the finals as the coach,

1733
01:20:10,040 --> 01:20:12,000
Speaker 1: he's been a championship coaches and assistant like he's not

1734
01:20:12,320 --> 01:20:14,320
Speaker 1: something no name, I guess, I don't know.

1735
01:20:14,400 --> 01:20:17,120
Speaker 2: I mean outside of the thunder now, I'm involving the West,

1736
01:20:17,200 --> 01:20:20,400
Speaker 2: of course, but good luck picking to through whatever out

1737
01:20:20,479 --> 01:20:22,880
Speaker 2: west and in the East, good luck picking one through eight.

1738
01:20:23,000 --> 01:20:23,599
Speaker 5: I mean it's.

1739
01:20:25,320 --> 01:20:28,360
Speaker 1: You know, do we see any team like are the

1740
01:20:28,560 --> 01:20:32,920
Speaker 1: magic ready odds. I don't believe. I know, but if

1741
01:20:32,960 --> 01:20:35,639
Speaker 1: you look at this world, it's a core that's been together.

1742
01:20:36,520 --> 01:20:38,760
Speaker 1: Injury hurts me so much. Carol just coming into his

1743
01:20:38,840 --> 01:20:40,320
Speaker 1: prime now to talk about.

1744
01:20:40,120 --> 01:20:42,040
Speaker 2: Them in a similar light to how they've talked about

1745
01:20:42,040 --> 01:20:44,200
Speaker 2: the Pacers in recent years. I mean, somebody's got to

1746
01:20:44,240 --> 01:20:47,160
Speaker 2: be up there. I mean, without true about Halliburton, I mean,

1747
01:20:47,200 --> 01:20:51,599
Speaker 2: no one's betting on the freaking Sixers. So yeah, New

1748
01:20:51,680 --> 01:20:54,240
Speaker 2: York or Cleveland will probably be the two that I

1749
01:20:54,240 --> 01:20:58,200
Speaker 2: would come back to because also the overwhelming favorite. But

1750
01:20:58,320 --> 01:21:01,000
Speaker 2: Garland's got a tow injury. Still, Yeah, he's not going

1751
01:21:01,080 --> 01:21:01,640
Speaker 2: to start the year.

1752
01:21:03,439 --> 01:21:06,519
Speaker 7: I can tractually cannot pick any New York team to

1753
01:21:06,640 --> 01:21:09,720
Speaker 7: ever win anything. And I hope the Knicks fall on

1754
01:21:09,800 --> 01:21:12,400
Speaker 7: their face and crash before it's all said and done.

1755
01:21:12,400 --> 01:21:15,360
Speaker 7: I can't. I can't see. There's just something about that

1756
01:21:15,640 --> 01:21:18,840
Speaker 7: team in that building, with that owner. I don't think

1757
01:21:18,880 --> 01:21:20,320
Speaker 7: they can get out of their own way for one

1758
01:21:20,360 --> 01:21:21,000
Speaker 7: reason or the other.

1759
01:21:21,240 --> 01:21:23,200
Speaker 1: Dang, where where does this Nix hate come from?

1760
01:21:24,080 --> 01:21:26,559
Speaker 7: In general? Just New York in general?

1761
01:21:27,160 --> 01:21:27,400
Speaker 1: Dang?

1762
01:21:27,960 --> 01:21:28,960
Speaker 5: I was like, did you grow up?

1763
01:21:29,320 --> 01:21:29,360
Speaker 7: No?

1764
01:21:29,439 --> 01:21:31,479
Speaker 1: No, I'm like, you know, from Colorado.

1765
01:21:31,600 --> 01:21:33,920
Speaker 7: But to me, it's like Las Vegas. I love going

1766
01:21:33,960 --> 01:21:36,759
Speaker 7: to New York City, but I can't wait to leave either. Dang,

1767
01:21:37,680 --> 01:21:39,519
Speaker 7: I must say, I like New York the city now,

1768
01:21:40,200 --> 01:21:42,120
Speaker 7: but yeah, I can't wait to get out of there either.

1769
01:21:42,280 --> 01:21:44,479
Speaker 1: Well, Nix hate well as you welcome on these airwaves.

1770
01:21:44,520 --> 01:21:46,280
Speaker 1: I think for a lot of the listeners, Jeff.

1771
01:21:46,120 --> 01:21:47,599
Speaker 5: Feet touch in New York City gives it a good

1772
01:21:47,640 --> 01:21:49,360
Speaker 5: farmer's blow right on the sidewalk.

1773
01:21:49,479 --> 01:21:50,360
Speaker 1: That's why I think of you.

1774
01:21:52,479 --> 01:21:55,679
Speaker 7: You're on fire today, Mark, Do you see the reverence there?

1775
01:21:58,200 --> 01:21:59,400
Speaker 10: No, I'm excited.

1776
01:21:59,479 --> 01:22:01,760
Speaker 7: I am to see as a as a broadcast nerd.

1777
01:22:02,240 --> 01:22:04,960
Speaker 7: I'm really excited to see what the first five minutes

1778
01:22:05,000 --> 01:22:07,760
Speaker 7: of that NBC getting the NBA back tonight is going

1779
01:22:07,800 --> 01:22:09,880
Speaker 7: to look like. I think they probably have something pretty

1780
01:22:09,920 --> 01:22:10,799
Speaker 7: cool planned.

1781
01:22:11,280 --> 01:22:13,599
Speaker 1: And then later in the season we get to Charles Barkley,

1782
01:22:14,240 --> 01:22:19,559
Speaker 1: Kiel O'Neill, Ernie Johnson sort of mix on ESPN. Now,

1783
01:22:19,600 --> 01:22:21,559
Speaker 1: I'm still confused by all that it starts.

1784
01:22:21,560 --> 01:22:22,960
Speaker 5: I don't know what the deal is with it.

1785
01:22:23,240 --> 01:22:26,000
Speaker 7: I'm confused. I just hope that they're there for the playoffs.

1786
01:22:26,960 --> 01:22:29,479
Speaker 7: They can start sending teams fishing. That's all I want.

1787
01:22:30,400 --> 01:22:33,120
Speaker 7: I love that I love, just the dynamic between those guys.

1788
01:22:33,439 --> 01:22:36,479
Speaker 1: DJ and NDS preach it, drink the tears of New

1789
01:22:36,560 --> 01:22:39,600
Speaker 1: York fan base. For Fuel, I like him all of

1790
01:22:39,600 --> 01:22:42,560
Speaker 1: a sudden, All of a sudden. But I'm digging that

1791
01:22:42,680 --> 01:22:43,080
Speaker 1: right there now.

1792
01:22:43,120 --> 01:22:43,720
Speaker 8: I don't know why.

1793
01:22:43,760 --> 01:22:48,639
Speaker 7: I've just always always had a dislike for New York teams.

1794
01:22:49,800 --> 01:22:51,200
Speaker 1: Hey, what power to you?

1795
01:22:51,439 --> 01:22:53,479
Speaker 7: That's just how that goes. All right, we got a

1796
01:22:53,520 --> 01:22:57,040
Speaker 7: busy show still to come. Joy Ericson is going to

1797
01:22:57,080 --> 01:23:00,479
Speaker 7: come by if Mark doesn't completely offend him by the

1798
01:23:00,600 --> 01:23:05,559
Speaker 7: pre the pre interview discussion there bringing up the Milwaukee Brewers.

1799
01:23:05,640 --> 01:23:07,000
Speaker 5: I'm not going to bring him up at all. Why

1800
01:23:07,000 --> 01:23:08,760
Speaker 5: would I mean? He should be proud of his team.

1801
01:23:08,800 --> 01:23:10,360
Speaker 5: They made it to the NLCS. What's not to be

1802
01:23:10,439 --> 01:23:10,800
Speaker 5: proud of.

1803
01:23:13,280 --> 01:23:13,320
Speaker 4: That?

1804
01:23:13,520 --> 01:23:13,720
Speaker 2: True?

1805
01:23:13,800 --> 01:23:16,200
Speaker 1: Is that the true Mark Dyton speaking?

1806
01:23:17,360 --> 01:23:17,479
Speaker 10: Well?

1807
01:23:17,560 --> 01:23:19,160
Speaker 5: What other Mark Dyton will be speaking?

1808
01:23:19,240 --> 01:23:19,519
Speaker 10: Right now?

1809
01:23:19,680 --> 01:23:21,640
Speaker 1: You sound like you Patrol One, the one that I

1810
01:23:21,760 --> 01:23:23,080
Speaker 1: know a lot more about.

1811
01:23:25,200 --> 01:23:26,920
Speaker 7: Talking about it's radio. I wish you could see the

1812
01:23:27,040 --> 01:23:29,559
Speaker 7: look on his face right His smug doesn't even begin.

1813
01:23:30,920 --> 01:23:33,280
Speaker 1: One trip to California. You think you think I'm falling

1814
01:23:33,320 --> 01:23:35,400
Speaker 1: for when I come back? Not doing it?

1815
01:23:36,200 --> 01:23:38,000
Speaker 7: All right, We're gonna be talking to Joel a Ericson

1816
01:23:38,040 --> 01:23:40,439
Speaker 7: about that and a little bit more on the conversation

1817
01:23:40,520 --> 01:23:42,880
Speaker 7: that was just had with Rick Carlisle as we are

1818
01:23:43,479 --> 01:23:46,920
Speaker 7: getting ready for NBA Opening Night tonight, but for the

1819
01:23:46,960 --> 01:23:49,400
Speaker 7: Pacers it'll be over at the field House on Thursday night.

1820
01:23:49,479 --> 01:23:51,920
Speaker 7: And once again it just feels like man, after that

1821
01:23:52,200 --> 01:23:55,479
Speaker 7: seven game series and a preseason game, like just the

1822
01:23:55,560 --> 01:23:58,120
Speaker 7: thunder won't go away, Kevin, just make him go away?

1823
01:23:58,400 --> 01:24:00,679
Speaker 2: Here is this a UCLA quarterback? I gonna play against

1824
01:24:00,720 --> 01:24:01,400
Speaker 2: a you on Saturday?

1825
01:24:02,240 --> 01:24:05,200
Speaker 1: Nico? I don't know, Well, that is last day. His

1826
01:24:05,240 --> 01:24:07,160
Speaker 1: last name is always hard for me to say. I

1827
01:24:07,880 --> 01:24:12,480
Speaker 1: maala iva something. Yeah, he's the one who's transferred from Tennessee.

1828
01:24:12,400 --> 01:24:15,120
Speaker 2: Right, and he got hurt late in their game. I'm

1829
01:24:15,120 --> 01:24:17,160
Speaker 2: a little surprised the line is as big as it is.

1830
01:24:17,439 --> 01:24:21,640
Speaker 2: Twenty four and a half. Yeah, I think that's a

1831
01:24:21,680 --> 01:24:23,800
Speaker 2: bit of a storyline coming up. Big noon kickoff here

1832
01:24:24,320 --> 01:24:25,320
Speaker 2: on UH on Sunday.

1833
01:24:25,400 --> 01:24:27,519
Speaker 7: Yeah, and Kirk second, he's already talking them up. We'll

1834
01:24:27,560 --> 01:24:29,040
Speaker 7: hear some of his comments on that a little bit

1835
01:24:29,120 --> 01:24:31,519
Speaker 7: later on the show as well. Text line is open

1836
01:24:31,560 --> 01:24:33,439
Speaker 7: two three, nine, ten seventy would love to hear your

1837
01:24:33,520 --> 01:24:35,880
Speaker 7: feedback and your thoughts on everything we've been talking about.

1838
01:24:35,920 --> 01:24:38,280
Speaker 7: But we'll dive deeper into the Colts and their six

1839
01:24:38,360 --> 01:24:40,439
Speaker 7: and one start and what lies ahead next on ninety

1840
01:24:40,439 --> 01:24:42,080
Speaker 7: three five and one on seven five the fan.

1841
01:24:51,280 --> 01:24:53,840
Speaker 4: You were listening to about fan morning show on ninety

1842
01:24:53,880 --> 01:24:56,439
Speaker 4: three to five and one oh seven five the fan.

1843
01:24:59,479 --> 01:25:01,000
Speaker 7: Say that again, I'm not a loud on the radio,

1844
01:25:01,080 --> 01:25:02,360
Speaker 7: Mark about Smashing Pumpkins.

1845
01:25:02,479 --> 01:25:05,519
Speaker 5: I love this song. Great song by Smashing Pumpkins. It's

1846
01:25:05,560 --> 01:25:07,400
Speaker 5: called zero. For those of you who like to know

1847
01:25:07,600 --> 01:25:10,040
Speaker 5: the names of the songs, It's called zero.

1848
01:25:10,160 --> 01:25:10,960
Speaker 8: And I believe.

1849
01:25:12,800 --> 01:25:14,679
Speaker 5: Joli ericson of the Indie Stars is joining.

1850
01:25:14,560 --> 01:25:14,960
Speaker 10: Us right now.

1851
01:25:16,000 --> 01:25:19,280
Speaker 5: Geez what this is a good song. He's just one

1852
01:25:19,280 --> 01:25:20,320
Speaker 5: of my favorites on spots.

1853
01:25:20,520 --> 01:25:20,960
Speaker 10: Do you want.

1854
01:25:23,280 --> 01:25:26,839
Speaker 1: Your team lose to jol Erickson's team something.

1855
01:25:26,680 --> 01:25:29,880
Speaker 5: That's all ancient history at this point. Oh my god,

1856
01:25:29,960 --> 01:25:30,240
Speaker 5: this is.

1857
01:25:30,439 --> 01:25:32,800
Speaker 2: Pathetic by Mark. This is worse than he was trying

1858
01:25:32,800 --> 01:25:35,640
Speaker 2: to complain about the officials and the Bears gave up fifty.

1859
01:25:36,800 --> 01:25:37,320
Speaker 5: Good song.

1860
01:25:37,439 --> 01:25:40,479
Speaker 1: I just know that your team is where Mark's team

1861
01:25:40,520 --> 01:25:41,439
Speaker 1: went to die this year.

1862
01:25:41,479 --> 01:25:41,840
Speaker 7: That's all.

1863
01:25:43,160 --> 01:25:45,840
Speaker 8: Yeah, it's it's I don't know where Mark's going with

1864
01:25:45,920 --> 01:25:50,800
Speaker 8: this one. It's it's pretty tough. Did they played my

1865
01:25:50,880 --> 01:25:52,200
Speaker 8: team in the playoffs and lost?

1866
01:25:52,400 --> 01:25:54,240
Speaker 7: So I agree?

1867
01:25:54,439 --> 01:25:57,240
Speaker 8: James James James as the as the resident expert on

1868
01:25:57,360 --> 01:26:00,519
Speaker 8: trash talk. What what's what's Mark? Guy? Chances they're not here.

1869
01:26:00,640 --> 01:26:03,559
Speaker 5: So he hung the l flag and then they won

1870
01:26:03,720 --> 01:26:04,880
Speaker 5: zero games from then out.

1871
01:26:05,120 --> 01:26:07,200
Speaker 1: Exactly. That's where you're going to say, Hey, we won

1872
01:26:07,280 --> 01:26:08,880
Speaker 1: the same amount of games in the next series.

1873
01:26:09,080 --> 01:26:13,120
Speaker 8: Yeah. So so, Mark, who has played like every Cub

1874
01:26:13,240 --> 01:26:16,639
Speaker 8: song possible when I come on the radio, was upset

1875
01:26:16,880 --> 01:26:20,559
Speaker 8: that the Brewers trolled the Cubs after beating them.

1876
01:26:20,680 --> 01:26:24,120
Speaker 5: This is a new love Brother syndrome. That's all it is.

1877
01:26:24,760 --> 01:26:27,240
Speaker 2: We're here scratching his back. Man, this is pathetic. This

1878
01:26:27,479 --> 01:26:29,800
Speaker 2: I couldn't believe. I can't believe he's stooped to this level.

1879
01:26:29,960 --> 01:26:31,280
Speaker 2: Kevin suggested this song.

1880
01:26:31,840 --> 01:26:34,080
Speaker 1: Hell no, good morning, Joe.

1881
01:26:34,240 --> 01:26:35,120
Speaker 7: How are you doing today?

1882
01:26:36,160 --> 01:26:37,160
Speaker 8: I'm good, I'm good.

1883
01:26:37,200 --> 01:26:37,840
Speaker 10: Are you guys do it?

1884
01:26:38,000 --> 01:26:39,920
Speaker 7: We're great? Thanks for joining us. Is always on the

1885
01:26:39,920 --> 01:26:44,479
Speaker 7: Payless Liquors hotline six and one in leading so many

1886
01:26:44,560 --> 01:26:48,960
Speaker 7: offensive categories and number one ranked in the AFC Like

1887
01:26:49,479 --> 01:26:52,400
Speaker 7: it does not appear like this train is gonna slow down.

1888
01:26:52,520 --> 01:26:55,000
Speaker 7: What do you think so far of this this Colts team.

1889
01:26:55,760 --> 01:26:58,000
Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean I think I think we're kind of

1890
01:26:58,000 --> 01:27:00,479
Speaker 8: at the point now where we should expect this Colts

1891
01:27:00,520 --> 01:27:04,479
Speaker 8: offense to be great until they honestly, honestly, it's not

1892
01:27:04,520 --> 01:27:07,240
Speaker 8: even just one performance anymore. It's got to be a

1893
01:27:07,320 --> 01:27:10,519
Speaker 8: bunch of performances go wrong in a row before we

1894
01:27:11,280 --> 01:27:16,040
Speaker 8: readjust because you know that Chargers team coming in, there's

1895
01:27:16,080 --> 01:27:18,639
Speaker 8: they're passing stats for like this is the top five

1896
01:27:18,720 --> 01:27:22,519
Speaker 8: pass defense. The Colts went out and Daniel Jones threw

1897
01:27:22,520 --> 01:27:24,120
Speaker 8: for two hundred and eighty eight yards and they had

1898
01:27:24,160 --> 01:27:28,880
Speaker 8: four hundred yards, and you know they it's there's there's

1899
01:27:29,240 --> 01:27:32,479
Speaker 8: nothing to I know, there's still people saying some stuff

1900
01:27:32,479 --> 01:27:34,559
Speaker 8: about the schedule, but the Broncos are like a top

1901
01:27:34,760 --> 01:27:36,400
Speaker 8: up until up until a sudden, they were like a

1902
01:27:36,439 --> 01:27:40,880
Speaker 8: top two defense. They're just really good on offense. They're

1903
01:27:40,920 --> 01:27:44,479
Speaker 8: really balanced, They've got a good offensive line. They don't

1904
01:27:44,600 --> 01:27:46,800
Speaker 8: have to run jat all the time, so when they do,

1905
01:27:47,000 --> 01:27:49,920
Speaker 8: it's more it's even more effective. And they got a

1906
01:27:49,920 --> 01:27:52,000
Speaker 8: whole bunch of different weapons. It's really hard to find

1907
01:27:52,040 --> 01:27:53,639
Speaker 8: a weakness in the way the Colts have played offense.

1908
01:27:53,680 --> 01:27:56,599
Speaker 2: So far, joellet's foreign for Chris Bauer to sit here

1909
01:27:56,840 --> 01:27:58,200
Speaker 2: at this part of the season and be in the

1910
01:27:58,240 --> 01:28:00,720
Speaker 2: position that they are. I tend to think he will

1911
01:28:00,760 --> 01:28:05,599
Speaker 2: be looking at making a move now. Where exactly that happens, though,

1912
01:28:06,120 --> 01:28:08,240
Speaker 2: I think is a pretty good debate, So I'll throw

1913
01:28:08,240 --> 01:28:10,920
Speaker 2: it your way. You think cornerback or the You think

1914
01:28:10,960 --> 01:28:13,600
Speaker 2: defensive end is more pressing right now, I.

1915
01:28:13,600 --> 01:28:19,240
Speaker 8: Think it's cornerback. I just think, you know, they they're

1916
01:28:19,320 --> 01:28:21,360
Speaker 8: not getting as much edge rush as I think most

1917
01:28:21,360 --> 01:28:24,040
Speaker 8: people would would like to see. It's still it's still

1918
01:28:24,040 --> 01:28:27,120
Speaker 8: a DeForest Buckner heavy pass rush from the inside, but

1919
01:28:27,400 --> 01:28:30,000
Speaker 8: they have players. You know, if if there were more

1920
01:28:30,120 --> 01:28:34,400
Speaker 8: serious injuries to Ebicom and Taekwon Lewis, it doesn't sound

1921
01:28:34,479 --> 01:28:39,000
Speaker 8: like those injuries are are long term. You know, I

1922
01:28:39,080 --> 01:28:43,120
Speaker 8: think maybe you could make the edge edge rusher argument

1923
01:28:43,160 --> 01:28:45,800
Speaker 8: a little bit better. The argument against corner to me,

1924
01:28:45,960 --> 01:28:48,160
Speaker 8: is really just that there don't seem to be a

1925
01:28:48,240 --> 01:28:51,519
Speaker 8: bunch of good ones out there on the market, but

1926
01:28:51,800 --> 01:28:56,600
Speaker 8: the situation they're in just in terms of depth and

1927
01:28:56,760 --> 01:28:58,800
Speaker 8: injury and not knowing when people are going to be back.

1928
01:29:00,080 --> 01:29:01,439
Speaker 8: If it was me, I go get a corner and

1929
01:29:01,479 --> 01:29:04,680
Speaker 8: I think the other thing is Chris Ballor himself has

1930
01:29:04,960 --> 01:29:08,680
Speaker 8: signaled to us all offseason that this defense needs cornerbacks.

1931
01:29:09,760 --> 01:29:12,160
Speaker 8: You know that they clearly don't have answers too, because

1932
01:29:13,080 --> 01:29:15,320
Speaker 8: you know they played Cameron Mitchell and Jonathanwards about the

1933
01:29:15,400 --> 01:29:18,800
Speaker 8: same amount on Sunday. They need to find somebody who

1934
01:29:18,840 --> 01:29:22,680
Speaker 8: they can feel like they can play them with these

1935
01:29:22,720 --> 01:29:24,280
Speaker 8: guys on the injured reserve.

1936
01:29:24,600 --> 01:29:26,720
Speaker 2: Could you make the argument Javeri's Ward will be back

1937
01:29:26,760 --> 01:29:29,240
Speaker 2: at some point and there's no Javaria's Ward at defensive end.

1938
01:29:30,720 --> 01:29:33,160
Speaker 8: Uh. I think you could. I think you could. And

1939
01:29:33,240 --> 01:29:36,439
Speaker 8: you could also make the argument that you know, at

1940
01:29:36,479 --> 01:29:38,960
Speaker 8: the trade deadline, you take what's available, and so if

1941
01:29:39,240 --> 01:29:42,320
Speaker 8: if there's pass rushers available, you could you can do that.

1942
01:29:42,479 --> 01:29:44,559
Speaker 8: I think you could make that argument. I just think

1943
01:29:45,320 --> 01:29:49,559
Speaker 8: that we've seen games already. The Rams game is one

1944
01:29:49,600 --> 01:29:52,360
Speaker 8: of them where they're getting pressure off the edge and

1945
01:29:52,400 --> 01:29:55,280
Speaker 8: it doesn't matter because the corners can't hold up long

1946
01:29:55,400 --> 01:29:58,719
Speaker 8: enough to uh to keep the quarter make the quarterback

1947
01:29:58,760 --> 01:30:00,600
Speaker 8: hold the ball. So I just think they gotta have

1948
01:30:01,160 --> 01:30:02,920
Speaker 8: they gotta have help at that cornerback position.

1949
01:30:03,520 --> 01:30:06,559
Speaker 1: And again we have Joel a Ericson joining us from

1950
01:30:06,600 --> 01:30:09,479
Speaker 1: Indie Starr on the Paylow Stickers hot Line and Joel,

1951
01:30:09,560 --> 01:30:14,400
Speaker 1: I must admit you might have the biggest man crush

1952
01:30:14,520 --> 01:30:18,320
Speaker 1: on to Forest Buckner. There is no greater appreciator. I

1953
01:30:18,360 --> 01:30:20,960
Speaker 1: think you're said, Rego Sa, what I mean, there's a no.

1954
01:30:21,439 --> 01:30:23,080
Speaker 1: First of all, Joe is a crush on anything that

1955
01:30:23,200 --> 01:30:26,519
Speaker 1: looks weird in football, that looks old schooling football, and

1956
01:30:26,640 --> 01:30:29,760
Speaker 1: that like hurts my brain happy fourth down exactly. Like

1957
01:30:29,880 --> 01:30:32,600
Speaker 1: he's the guy who keeps up with all the weird intricacies.

1958
01:30:32,920 --> 01:30:35,000
Speaker 1: You know, you were on the Zoom call a couple

1959
01:30:35,040 --> 01:30:37,599
Speaker 1: weeks ago Kevin where we had special teams coordinator Brian

1960
01:30:37,640 --> 01:30:39,479
Speaker 1: Mason joined and he gives a Joel's shout out because

1961
01:30:39,479 --> 01:30:40,960
Speaker 1: he noticed some weird thing in practice. And I'm like,

1962
01:30:41,000 --> 01:30:43,880
Speaker 1: of course Joel noticed this. So getting back to the point,

1963
01:30:45,400 --> 01:30:47,920
Speaker 1: what how would you describe the formans that the Forest

1964
01:30:47,960 --> 01:30:50,360
Speaker 1: Buckner put on Sunday and the level he's playing at

1965
01:30:50,439 --> 01:30:50,880
Speaker 1: this season.

1966
01:30:52,160 --> 01:30:56,080
Speaker 8: It's he's The hard thing with Buckner is that with

1967
01:30:56,160 --> 01:30:58,519
Speaker 8: pass rushers, everyone always looks at sacks, and I think

1968
01:30:58,560 --> 01:31:01,280
Speaker 8: that's kind of what happened. What's happened the buttoner is

1969
01:31:02,080 --> 01:31:04,439
Speaker 8: just that from a national perspective, he doesn't get the

1970
01:31:04,520 --> 01:31:08,040
Speaker 8: same credit that like a Chris Jones gets or some

1971
01:31:08,120 --> 01:31:11,120
Speaker 8: of these other guys. He's just because honestly, the Colts.

1972
01:31:10,880 --> 01:31:11,479
Speaker 1: Haven't been good.

1973
01:31:11,600 --> 01:31:14,880
Speaker 8: But I kind of do this thing during games most

1974
01:31:14,880 --> 01:31:16,759
Speaker 8: of the time where I try to watch the line

1975
01:31:16,880 --> 01:31:21,240
Speaker 8: first and then and then and then move on to

1976
01:31:21,280 --> 01:31:23,960
Speaker 8: where the ball's going. And Buttoner has just faced so

1977
01:31:24,080 --> 01:31:26,720
Speaker 8: many double teams this year. If he if you, he

1978
01:31:26,840 --> 01:31:29,439
Speaker 8: said after the game on Sunday, he said something about,

1979
01:31:29,479 --> 01:31:30,960
Speaker 8: like I was able to win my one on ones

1980
01:31:31,000 --> 01:31:33,799
Speaker 8: when I got him. I went back and watched his sacks.

1981
01:31:33,840 --> 01:31:36,680
Speaker 8: He didn't really get right on right, but he got

1982
01:31:36,760 --> 01:31:39,000
Speaker 8: double teams where he beat one guy first and then

1983
01:31:39,000 --> 01:31:41,519
Speaker 8: the next guy second, so he kind of turned the

1984
01:31:41,560 --> 01:31:43,120
Speaker 8: double team into two one on ones.

1985
01:31:44,800 --> 01:31:47,280
Speaker 10: He's a guy, that's he.

1986
01:31:47,560 --> 01:31:50,680
Speaker 8: I just don't think he's probably appreciated enough nationally for

1987
01:31:50,760 --> 01:31:53,080
Speaker 8: how good he is. He's right up there with those

1988
01:31:53,120 --> 01:31:56,800
Speaker 8: other defensive tackles, and it's just it's just a matter

1989
01:31:56,840 --> 01:31:59,120
Speaker 8: of team success. A game like the other day, it's

1990
01:31:59,160 --> 01:32:02,320
Speaker 8: not a great Charger offensive line, but he's got to

1991
01:32:02,360 --> 01:32:05,040
Speaker 8: fight through a double team on like literally almost every snap.

1992
01:32:05,320 --> 01:32:07,400
Speaker 1: If there is someone who is if there is ever

1993
01:32:07,439 --> 01:32:11,400
Speaker 1: a moment in the history of football where DeForest Buckner

1994
01:32:11,640 --> 01:32:14,880
Speaker 1: is without fans. It is because joy Eric something has

1995
01:32:14,920 --> 01:32:16,640
Speaker 1: happened to him. I gotta go find it. I was

1996
01:32:16,680 --> 01:32:19,160
Speaker 1: checking my buddy because that man gave him his flowers,

1997
01:32:19,200 --> 01:32:22,160
Speaker 1: and deservedly so. The tape is unbelievable from what we

1998
01:32:22,240 --> 01:32:24,559
Speaker 1: saw from the Forest Buckner Rego or buck.

1999
01:32:26,120 --> 01:32:28,800
Speaker 8: Oh man, Do I have to choose.

2000
01:32:31,560 --> 01:32:32,000
Speaker 10: The question?

2001
01:32:33,080 --> 01:32:35,400
Speaker 1: The father of three boys here is pausing.

2002
01:32:36,520 --> 01:32:38,280
Speaker 8: I don't. I don't want to. I don't want to choose.

2003
01:32:38,320 --> 01:32:41,120
Speaker 8: I might, I might. I might have to go Rego

2004
01:32:41,320 --> 01:32:42,680
Speaker 8: just to just to stay consistent.

2005
01:32:43,080 --> 01:32:45,599
Speaker 2: Yeah, but Buckner's got enough people that's fair on his boat,

2006
01:32:45,640 --> 01:32:47,320
Speaker 2: and there there's the there's there's not enough.

2007
01:32:49,320 --> 01:32:51,560
Speaker 8: I might have to go with the Witch. He's the

2008
01:32:51,840 --> 01:32:54,840
Speaker 8: way the way the ball bounces on those plots like

2009
01:32:56,120 --> 01:32:58,479
Speaker 8: people are really aren't appreciating it now because he's not

2010
01:32:58,520 --> 01:33:01,240
Speaker 8: playing at all, which is great for Colts, But you know,

2011
01:33:02,320 --> 01:33:04,240
Speaker 8: you got to appreciate Rigo Sanchez when he's out there.

2012
01:33:04,320 --> 01:33:06,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's bad for your fandom and you're carrying the

2013
01:33:06,080 --> 01:33:09,000
Speaker 2: flag for it. Joeli Erickson from The Star with the

2014
01:33:09,040 --> 01:33:12,800
Speaker 2: Serre Palistickers hotline. Joey teas a little bit earlier. Really

2015
01:33:12,920 --> 01:33:16,280
Speaker 2: enjoyed reading so far too, and feel free to tease

2016
01:33:16,479 --> 01:33:19,280
Speaker 2: uh when the Kaylin Jackson feature will be published. But

2017
01:33:19,360 --> 01:33:23,000
Speaker 2: you've written on both the older Ursay daughters so far,

2018
01:33:23,160 --> 01:33:26,559
Speaker 2: Carly and Casey. I think excellent reads, just great backgrounds,

2019
01:33:26,600 --> 01:33:29,800
Speaker 2: particularly Casey, who was probably the least in the spotlight

2020
01:33:30,240 --> 01:33:33,080
Speaker 2: from an organizational standpoint. Yes, she is married to a foight.

2021
01:33:34,160 --> 01:33:35,320
Speaker 1: Really really well done.

2022
01:33:36,040 --> 01:33:38,080
Speaker 2: Kind of how did that idea start and just any

2023
01:33:38,120 --> 01:33:40,160
Speaker 2: grand takeaways you've had in chatting with him.

2024
01:33:41,040 --> 01:33:43,639
Speaker 8: Well, I think I think it's something that we've kind

2025
01:33:43,680 --> 01:33:47,479
Speaker 8: of wanted to do for a while. And the idea

2026
01:33:47,720 --> 01:33:53,360
Speaker 8: was really not necessarily to write something that's uh, you know,

2027
01:33:53,560 --> 01:33:56,240
Speaker 8: where we slam in on all of the issues pertaining

2028
01:33:56,240 --> 01:33:58,600
Speaker 8: to the team and do all all and you know,

2029
01:33:58,680 --> 01:34:00,720
Speaker 8: do the super newsy stuff. Deea was to sort of

2030
01:34:00,760 --> 01:34:04,479
Speaker 8: introduce these three people to the city of Indianapolis and

2031
01:34:04,680 --> 01:34:07,200
Speaker 8: in whatever way we could. Because we we knew a

2032
01:34:07,320 --> 01:34:12,240
Speaker 8: ton about Jim Mersey and and his likes and dislikes

2033
01:34:12,280 --> 01:34:14,240
Speaker 8: and how, you know, how like how he thought and everything.

2034
01:34:14,720 --> 01:34:16,800
Speaker 8: We didn't know as much about the people taking over

2035
01:34:16,920 --> 01:34:18,400
Speaker 8: for him, and so that's that's kind of where the

2036
01:34:18,439 --> 01:34:22,519
Speaker 8: genesis of the story went. I think one of the

2037
01:34:22,600 --> 01:34:25,800
Speaker 8: things that maybe is the biggest takeaway is that I

2038
01:34:25,840 --> 01:34:28,439
Speaker 8: think when when they took over, there was sort of

2039
01:34:28,520 --> 01:34:30,600
Speaker 8: this feeling or the way they were, the way it

2040
01:34:30,720 --> 01:34:33,240
Speaker 8: was talked about, was like, you know, they're stepping into

2041
01:34:34,160 --> 01:34:37,640
Speaker 8: this new role that they haven't this new role. It's

2042
01:34:38,040 --> 01:34:40,040
Speaker 8: and it is new in terms of them being the

2043
01:34:41,439 --> 01:34:43,360
Speaker 8: the three of them, with with Karl obviously being the

2044
01:34:43,400 --> 01:34:47,200
Speaker 8: principal owner, being the primary owners. But the thing I

2045
01:34:47,280 --> 01:34:49,200
Speaker 8: think sticks out to me is that it's really not

2046
01:34:50,479 --> 01:34:54,080
Speaker 8: new for them. They've been doing this stuff for a really,

2047
01:34:54,120 --> 01:34:57,160
Speaker 8: really long time, and the thing that changed is just

2048
01:34:57,240 --> 01:34:58,559
Speaker 8: that they're officially in charge.

2049
01:35:00,120 --> 01:35:00,680
Speaker 7: Talking to Joel A.

2050
01:35:00,800 --> 01:35:03,800
Speaker 1: Erickson and the klin one ye is it coming out?

2051
01:35:03,960 --> 01:35:07,040
Speaker 8: It should be. I was working on that last night,

2052
01:35:07,240 --> 01:35:09,280
Speaker 8: and it will come down to when the right time

2053
01:35:09,320 --> 01:35:12,560
Speaker 8: to publish it is from the Indie Star offices. So

2054
01:35:12,640 --> 01:35:15,080
Speaker 8: that one, that one is coming soon. I don't know

2055
01:35:15,160 --> 01:35:16,559
Speaker 8: exactly when, but it's coming soon.

2056
01:35:16,680 --> 01:35:18,080
Speaker 1: I'll tell him to keep a move on it. I

2057
01:35:18,320 --> 01:35:21,920
Speaker 1: trolled Joel with this after every game because we were

2058
01:35:21,960 --> 01:35:24,200
Speaker 1: in LA last week and obviously all the other stories

2059
01:35:24,200 --> 01:35:26,240
Speaker 1: that he does and I tell him is Hammel subscriber,

2060
01:35:26,479 --> 01:35:28,639
Speaker 1: so I need those stories on time, and he certainly,

2061
01:35:28,920 --> 01:35:31,280
Speaker 1: you know, feeds the beast. So I'm shouting the star

2062
01:35:31,360 --> 01:35:33,000
Speaker 1: and he's gonna be telling Mark to kiss his ass

2063
01:35:33,040 --> 01:35:35,080
Speaker 1: after telling you to kiss his ass. Well, I mean,

2064
01:35:35,960 --> 01:35:38,000
Speaker 1: he knows. I feel like Joel just kind of like

2065
01:35:38,720 --> 01:35:41,479
Speaker 1: the little brother. He just looks at me, he goes, yeah,

2066
01:35:41,520 --> 01:35:43,200
Speaker 1: I'm gonna just tune this guy out for the moment

2067
01:35:43,240 --> 01:35:45,479
Speaker 1: and get back to work, which usually is and I'd

2068
01:35:45,520 --> 01:35:47,240
Speaker 1: imagine that's why he's so successful what he does.

2069
01:35:48,600 --> 01:35:50,320
Speaker 8: Yeah, well, I mean part of it. Part of it

2070
01:35:50,479 --> 01:35:52,200
Speaker 8: is just the way the way it works with us

2071
01:35:52,280 --> 01:35:54,800
Speaker 8: being the local paper. Like I there's there's more that

2072
01:35:55,080 --> 01:35:58,120
Speaker 8: needs to be written for me. And now you know,

2073
01:35:58,520 --> 01:36:00,720
Speaker 8: now I I we have Nathan Band on the beat too,

2074
01:36:00,840 --> 01:36:03,360
Speaker 8: so I've got some help. But for the first seven

2075
01:36:03,360 --> 01:36:05,639
Speaker 8: weeks of the season, it wasn't so like what James

2076
01:36:05,720 --> 01:36:10,439
Speaker 8: is kind of referring to is like on Sunday we

2077
01:36:10,520 --> 01:36:12,360
Speaker 8: got to the press block and I was like, so,

2078
01:36:12,439 --> 01:36:16,840
Speaker 8: there's eight things I could write, and like, I think

2079
01:36:17,080 --> 01:36:18,880
Speaker 8: somebody else would have to make the decision. I think

2080
01:36:18,880 --> 01:36:22,639
Speaker 8: I wrote five of them or six of them. Depending

2081
01:36:22,680 --> 01:36:25,679
Speaker 8: on when you want to do that, and James James

2082
01:36:25,760 --> 01:36:27,240
Speaker 8: is always like, hey, you got to have that up

2083
01:36:27,240 --> 01:36:29,000
Speaker 8: before you get to the radio show, just in case

2084
01:36:29,040 --> 01:36:31,240
Speaker 8: there's something I didn't know about there.

2085
01:36:31,280 --> 01:36:32,000
Speaker 1: You come serious.

2086
01:36:32,360 --> 01:36:34,560
Speaker 2: By the way, shout out to Nathan Brown. I know

2087
01:36:34,720 --> 01:36:37,680
Speaker 2: that was announced yesterday on social but you know I

2088
01:36:37,840 --> 01:36:41,200
Speaker 2: were in the For those unfamiliar if you remember Nate Atkins,

2089
01:36:41,479 --> 01:36:44,240
Speaker 2: Joel's sidekick covering the Colts here for the last couple

2090
01:36:44,240 --> 01:36:46,080
Speaker 2: of years, he's now with the Rams. He's now a

2091
01:36:46,080 --> 01:36:48,880
Speaker 2: colleague of James Boyd over at the Athletic covering the Rams.

2092
01:36:49,479 --> 01:36:52,519
Speaker 2: Nathan Brown will slide over from the IndyCar Beat, which

2093
01:36:52,520 --> 01:36:53,960
Speaker 2: I think the Indiecar beat would be one of the

2094
01:36:54,040 --> 01:36:57,400
Speaker 2: harder ones out there to cover. And I thought Nathan

2095
01:36:57,439 --> 01:36:59,880
Speaker 2: did such a great job at the start. I worked

2096
01:37:00,080 --> 01:37:02,080
Speaker 2: on the back of the IDs way back in the

2097
01:37:02,200 --> 01:37:06,479
Speaker 2: day and was always very admiring frankly of his work

2098
01:37:06,520 --> 01:37:09,080
Speaker 2: ethic uh so looking forward to having him joined the base.

2099
01:37:09,240 --> 01:37:11,320
Speaker 2: It's a loss for Indy Car, but good news for

2100
01:37:11,439 --> 01:37:12,719
Speaker 2: Joeli Ericson in his workload.

2101
01:37:13,560 --> 01:37:16,080
Speaker 8: I I think I think the coolest thing to see

2102
01:37:17,680 --> 01:37:20,400
Speaker 8: was yesterday after Nathan, you know, put his his I'm

2103
01:37:20,439 --> 01:37:23,240
Speaker 8: headed to the cold speat message there on on the

2104
01:37:23,320 --> 01:37:26,120
Speaker 8: social media accounts. So seeing how many people are like

2105
01:37:26,439 --> 01:37:28,160
Speaker 8: the in the Indie Star is where I go for

2106
01:37:28,280 --> 01:37:31,200
Speaker 8: IndyCar coverage and I live in Japan or you know,

2107
01:37:31,720 --> 01:37:33,800
Speaker 8: somewhere on the West Coast or something like that, that

2108
01:37:33,960 --> 01:37:37,080
Speaker 8: that that stuff is really neat. It's an unique position

2109
01:37:37,200 --> 01:37:39,560
Speaker 8: that he's had, and now now he gets come to

2110
01:37:39,600 --> 01:37:41,479
Speaker 8: learn in the NFL, which we've we've done this before

2111
01:37:41,520 --> 01:37:44,799
Speaker 8: where Jimi Elo was, uh, you know, he was covering

2112
01:37:44,880 --> 01:37:48,680
Speaker 8: Indy Car and then shifted over. So yeah, it's it's

2113
01:37:48,840 --> 01:37:51,040
Speaker 8: it's exciting to have somebody else on the beat and

2114
01:37:51,240 --> 01:37:52,880
Speaker 8: he gets to come along in a really nice time.

2115
01:37:52,960 --> 01:37:55,280
Speaker 8: You know, he's not coming in where they're you know,

2116
01:37:55,520 --> 01:37:57,799
Speaker 8: two and five or three and four and everyone's upset.

2117
01:37:57,880 --> 01:37:59,360
Speaker 8: He's coming in the opposite way.

2118
01:38:00,600 --> 01:38:03,719
Speaker 7: Jill, I'm just curious. Fourteen and a half point spread

2119
01:38:03,840 --> 01:38:06,320
Speaker 7: for the Colts and the Titans this coming weekend. We

2120
01:38:06,400 --> 01:38:09,200
Speaker 7: know the NFL is in any given Sunday, but it

2121
01:38:09,280 --> 01:38:12,479
Speaker 7: doesn't look good for the Titans right now. Is that

2122
01:38:12,760 --> 01:38:15,479
Speaker 7: line more an indication of how good the Colts are

2123
01:38:15,520 --> 01:38:18,080
Speaker 7: thought to be or how bad the Titans are a

2124
01:38:18,160 --> 01:38:18,840
Speaker 7: little bit of both.

2125
01:38:19,960 --> 01:38:20,160
Speaker 10: Man.

2126
01:38:20,320 --> 01:38:22,880
Speaker 8: I'm I'm not the biggest betting expert for you. I

2127
01:38:22,880 --> 01:38:25,519
Speaker 8: don't feel like you see lines like fourteen and a

2128
01:38:25,560 --> 01:38:29,040
Speaker 8: half in the NFL very often. That feels more like

2129
01:38:29,200 --> 01:38:34,200
Speaker 8: a like a good SEC team versus a bad big

2130
01:38:34,280 --> 01:38:36,759
Speaker 8: twelve team type of line or something. I don't know's

2131
01:38:37,800 --> 01:38:39,519
Speaker 8: I think it's probably both. I think the answer is

2132
01:38:39,520 --> 01:38:42,519
Speaker 8: probably both. People are realizing that the Colts just put

2133
01:38:42,600 --> 01:38:46,240
Speaker 8: up points. They just score points every week, regardless of

2134
01:38:46,320 --> 01:38:48,479
Speaker 8: the matchup. And I think the other thing is just

2135
01:38:49,160 --> 01:38:51,320
Speaker 8: this Titan team doesn't have a head coach. They feel

2136
01:38:51,360 --> 01:38:54,320
Speaker 8: pretty rudderless at the moment, and that's how you get

2137
01:38:54,360 --> 01:38:56,200
Speaker 8: one of the bigger lines you're gonna see in the NFL.

2138
01:38:56,760 --> 01:38:59,519
Speaker 2: Joel the Colts. This would be the twelfth time, assuming

2139
01:38:59,560 --> 01:39:03,640
Speaker 2: this whole, since two thousand, they've been a two touchdown favorite.

2140
01:39:04,400 --> 01:39:08,000
Speaker 2: They are ten and one in such games. Can you

2141
01:39:08,080 --> 01:39:08,760
Speaker 2: recall the one?

2142
01:39:10,680 --> 01:39:14,040
Speaker 8: I cannot. I'm bad with betting lines. I'm terrible.

2143
01:39:14,240 --> 01:39:16,160
Speaker 1: M's have to be the jack with Jacksonville. You joined

2144
01:39:16,200 --> 01:39:16,840
Speaker 1: the beat win.

2145
01:39:18,600 --> 01:39:19,400
Speaker 8: Twenty eighteen?

2146
01:39:19,960 --> 01:39:20,439
Speaker 5: It is it?

2147
01:39:21,000 --> 01:39:24,559
Speaker 8: It's twenty eighteen, so is it the.

2148
01:39:26,240 --> 01:39:26,400
Speaker 10: Is it?

2149
01:39:26,520 --> 01:39:28,160
Speaker 8: The season op in twenty twenty.

2150
01:39:29,120 --> 01:39:32,240
Speaker 2: A Colts player who made a special teams tackle on

2151
01:39:32,400 --> 01:39:36,600
Speaker 2: Sunday scored the first touchdown in this game for the opponents.

2152
01:39:37,280 --> 01:39:40,360
Speaker 8: Oh I know, okay, Oh it's nineteen Hinds.

2153
01:39:42,320 --> 01:39:44,960
Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, James Boyd.

2154
01:39:45,640 --> 01:39:46,720
Speaker 8: Yeah, I'm missing the game.

2155
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Speaker 1: Gonna say it's Lakwan Treadwell.

2156
01:39:49,360 --> 01:39:56,240
Speaker 2: Lakwan Treadwell as Jacksonville Jaguar the season finale in twenty

2157
01:39:56,680 --> 01:39:59,759
Speaker 2: twenty one, that game is just cursed.

2158
01:40:00,080 --> 01:40:03,520
Speaker 5: And yes, indeed that was jest.

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01:40:04,080 --> 01:40:08,800
Speaker 8: If Daniel Jones beats Jacksonville in Jacksonville, does that does

2160
01:40:08,840 --> 01:40:11,280
Speaker 8: that make him like like, does that that make him

2161
01:40:11,280 --> 01:40:11,719
Speaker 8: the ultimate?

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01:40:11,840 --> 01:40:12,040
Speaker 10: Yeah?

2163
01:40:12,040 --> 01:40:14,400
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I've said this for the Peyton Manning statue

2164
01:40:14,439 --> 01:40:16,920
Speaker 2: goes to Shapiro's parking lot and Daniel Jones statue goes

2165
01:40:16,920 --> 01:40:17,280
Speaker 2: out front.

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01:40:18,720 --> 01:40:18,880
Speaker 10: Yeah.

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01:40:18,920 --> 01:40:20,840
Speaker 1: I think Daniel Jones walked into the locker room after

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01:40:20,920 --> 01:40:24,559
Speaker 1: the game Joel with an extension in hand and says,

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01:40:25,120 --> 01:40:27,280
Speaker 1: you know, I already signed. All I need to do

2170
01:40:27,360 --> 01:40:29,080
Speaker 1: is add a couple of zeros and then you can sign.

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01:40:29,400 --> 01:40:30,200
Speaker 1: And is this right?

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01:40:30,320 --> 01:40:32,479
Speaker 2: The Colts were down twenty six to three in that

2173
01:40:32,640 --> 01:40:34,000
Speaker 2: game with five minutes to go.

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Speaker 8: God, that is right, Yeah, that is right?

2175
01:40:37,760 --> 01:40:39,080
Speaker 1: And that was they had to win to get in

2176
01:40:39,280 --> 01:40:41,679
Speaker 1: right I I still think though.

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01:40:41,720 --> 01:40:44,320
Speaker 8: That the most the more most confusing one in the

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01:40:44,439 --> 01:40:48,960
Speaker 8: Jacksonville streak is when the twenty eighteen right after I

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01:40:49,000 --> 01:40:50,720
Speaker 8: got in the beat, when the twenty eighteen Colts were

2180
01:40:50,760 --> 01:40:53,599
Speaker 8: in the middle of running off Penn wins and eleven

2181
01:40:53,720 --> 01:40:54,640
Speaker 8: games and.

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01:40:54,720 --> 01:40:57,640
Speaker 5: The one game they lost was to like Cody Tetteh

2183
01:40:57,680 --> 01:40:58,439
Speaker 5: six nothing.

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01:40:58,240 --> 01:41:01,280
Speaker 8: In Jacksonville and they scored an points. That one is

2185
01:41:01,280 --> 01:41:03,920
Speaker 8: the one that I still can't like, I can't process that.

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01:41:04,080 --> 01:41:07,040
Speaker 2: One more so than Philip Rivers losing to was it

2187
01:41:07,200 --> 01:41:08,800
Speaker 2: Urban Meyer. I'm trying to think of the head coach

2188
01:41:08,800 --> 01:41:11,120
Speaker 2: would have been in twenty twenty. Didn't Jacksonville go one

2189
01:41:11,160 --> 01:41:13,000
Speaker 2: and fifteen and their only win was over the Colts?

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01:41:13,360 --> 01:41:15,600
Speaker 8: They they did, but like some of that, you just

2191
01:41:15,680 --> 01:41:19,000
Speaker 8: kind of go like a season opener, Yeah, covid year.

2192
01:41:20,040 --> 01:41:23,200
Speaker 8: That team didn't really hit its stride until after that

2193
01:41:23,400 --> 01:41:27,040
Speaker 8: Rivers Cleveland Brown's game, the Andrew Luck one. The other

2194
01:41:27,080 --> 01:41:29,080
Speaker 8: thing is I think that there's also a personal element

2195
01:41:29,120 --> 01:41:31,439
Speaker 8: to me. I had this story geared up on the

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01:41:31,600 --> 01:41:34,080
Speaker 8: Colts offense and how they'd found balance, and we had

2197
01:41:34,160 --> 01:41:38,080
Speaker 8: to push it back like a month because my editor

2198
01:41:38,160 --> 01:41:40,479
Speaker 8: correctly was like, well, we can't run a story about

2199
01:41:40,479 --> 01:41:42,559
Speaker 8: how good the offense is that they scored no points

2200
01:41:42,600 --> 01:41:43,320
Speaker 8: in Jacksonville.

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01:41:44,200 --> 01:41:46,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, all I remember was a million red zone drives

2202
01:41:46,439 --> 01:41:48,599
Speaker 2: and none of them working, and then like going forward

2203
01:41:48,640 --> 01:41:52,040
Speaker 2: constantly on fourth down. Joel, thank you for the time,

2204
01:41:52,320 --> 01:41:57,000
Speaker 2: and I will say, respectfully, Mark Dyton kiss Joel's ass.

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01:41:58,160 --> 01:41:58,400
Speaker 8: Wow.

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01:41:58,760 --> 01:42:00,679
Speaker 5: My thing is, why didn't they use the W flag?

2207
01:42:00,720 --> 01:42:03,360
Speaker 5: Why'd they do the L flag? Because now you haven't

2208
01:42:03,400 --> 01:42:06,800
Speaker 5: meme for twenty years because your team lost, but they

2209
01:42:06,920 --> 01:42:09,240
Speaker 5: but the Brewers won. Once you hang the W flag,

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01:42:09,600 --> 01:42:10,120
Speaker 5: we don't fly.

2211
01:42:10,400 --> 01:42:12,880
Speaker 8: We don't fly a flag. That's only a Chicago thing.

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01:42:13,000 --> 01:42:16,280
Speaker 5: You run brought worst down the outfield, all right.

2213
01:42:17,960 --> 01:42:18,960
Speaker 8: That's better than a flag.

2214
01:42:19,200 --> 01:42:20,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, Joel, let me know if you want me to

2215
01:42:20,479 --> 01:42:20,880
Speaker 1: punch him.

2216
01:42:20,880 --> 01:42:21,160
Speaker 7: I will.

2217
01:42:21,240 --> 01:42:25,040
Speaker 1: It sounds like two fourth graders, just your mom.

2218
01:42:25,840 --> 01:42:26,080
Speaker 10: Thank you.

2219
01:42:26,200 --> 01:42:27,439
Speaker 5: We're gonna play POGs later.

2220
01:42:30,040 --> 01:42:30,720
Speaker 8: We'll see you guys.

2221
01:42:31,120 --> 01:42:31,360
Speaker 10: Thanks.

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01:42:31,439 --> 01:42:33,840
Speaker 7: Joe Man does he put up with a lot from us?

2223
01:42:34,200 --> 01:42:36,800
Speaker 1: Every I know us stop this every week Mark?

2224
01:42:37,080 --> 01:42:39,400
Speaker 7: Every week Mark is just hammering him.

2225
01:42:39,760 --> 01:42:42,880
Speaker 5: I will say, Joel, something for Joel, Right, I'm like yeah, sure,

2226
01:42:42,920 --> 01:42:44,160
Speaker 5: Hold no, that is not what I.

2227
01:42:44,160 --> 01:42:50,679
Speaker 2: Said, I think Joel's one of those about this stuff

2228
01:42:50,680 --> 01:42:52,280
Speaker 2: I'm across in this business. There's not a lot of

2229
01:42:52,280 --> 01:42:54,439
Speaker 2: stand up individuals in our industry. Joel's one of them.

2230
01:42:55,360 --> 01:42:58,320
Speaker 1: Oh man, all right, this guy. Rest of our guests,

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01:42:58,400 --> 01:43:01,080
Speaker 1: what are you saying? The most of them are out

2232
01:43:01,080 --> 01:43:02,800
Speaker 1: there by the way, us going to say what? Yes,

2233
01:43:02,920 --> 01:43:05,080
Speaker 1: it gives us bets every Thursday, So I'm not sure

2234
01:43:05,080 --> 01:43:07,360
Speaker 1: if he's always a little as long as he's winning.

2235
01:43:08,320 --> 01:43:10,559
Speaker 1: Jason Emmer, Scott Dolson tomorrow, Is that right, Jeff?

2236
01:43:10,800 --> 01:43:12,120
Speaker 7: Yeah, looking forward to that.

2237
01:43:12,320 --> 01:43:14,040
Speaker 5: So the IU AD will join us.

2238
01:43:14,080 --> 01:43:15,400
Speaker 1: Who was a busy man last week.

2239
01:43:15,800 --> 01:43:18,160
Speaker 7: And by all accounts, people are liking what Darian Dereez

2240
01:43:18,280 --> 01:43:20,479
Speaker 7: is doing. And we all know about Kurt Signette. We'll

2241
01:43:20,479 --> 01:43:22,360
Speaker 7: hear from him a little bit later on the show too.

2242
01:43:22,360 --> 01:43:24,720
Speaker 7: But yeah, Scott Dallson tomorrow, looking forward to that and

2243
01:43:24,840 --> 01:43:27,960
Speaker 7: talking about all things Indiana athletics. They got to be feeling.

2244
01:43:28,280 --> 01:43:31,080
Speaker 7: I know that they're hopeful and optimistic about the basketball team,

2245
01:43:31,120 --> 01:43:33,559
Speaker 7: but they got a lot to like. Nobody still knows.

2246
01:43:33,600 --> 01:43:35,560
Speaker 7: I mean, yeah, big win over Marion, you'd kind of

2247
01:43:35,640 --> 01:43:37,440
Speaker 7: expect that. So what happens.

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01:43:37,280 --> 01:43:39,280
Speaker 1: Absolutely you lose to Mary and we got problems.

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01:43:39,439 --> 01:43:41,560
Speaker 7: Yeah, all right, let's check everything down and let you

2250
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Speaker 7: know what you need to know for today, right here,

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01:43:43,439 --> 01:43:43,880
Speaker 7: right now.

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01:43:45,080 --> 01:43:48,200
Speaker 4: The morning checkdown on ninety sweet five and one oh

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Speaker 4: seven five the ban Now.

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Speaker 7: I don't know if you guys have heard, but the

2255
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Speaker 7: Cults are six and one right now on top of

2256
01:43:53,520 --> 01:43:54,920
Speaker 7: the entire AFC.

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01:43:55,240 --> 01:43:58,160
Speaker 1: They are on a torrid pace for scoring entire NFL.

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01:43:58,320 --> 01:44:02,000
Speaker 7: Right last time a Colt's team in the entire history

2259
01:44:02,000 --> 01:44:05,519
Speaker 7: of the franchise did these kinds of numbers, Johnny Unidis

2260
01:44:05,640 --> 01:44:07,360
Speaker 7: was the quarterback and they went on to win an

2261
01:44:07,800 --> 01:44:09,880
Speaker 7: NFL championship game back in the day.

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01:44:10,000 --> 01:44:12,320
Speaker 1: Kevin Bowen, that's what we're dealing with right now.

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01:44:12,479 --> 01:44:14,320
Speaker 7: So we'll see if they can keep it going against

2264
01:44:14,640 --> 01:44:16,240
Speaker 7: maybe the worst team in the league coming up on

2265
01:44:16,320 --> 01:44:19,719
Speaker 7: Sunday after twenty five. You don't think they're the worst.

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01:44:19,520 --> 01:44:23,280
Speaker 1: Team in the league. Shut Jets, Jet, Jets, Jets.

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Speaker 7: Who do you think? Who would you take? What would

2268
01:44:25,880 --> 01:44:28,280
Speaker 7: the line be between the Titans and the Jets?

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01:44:28,360 --> 01:44:29,800
Speaker 1: Right I don't know I'd be the toilet bawl, but

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01:44:29,840 --> 01:44:31,639
Speaker 1: I would certainly not think the Jets. So the Jets

2271
01:44:31,680 --> 01:44:33,639
Speaker 1: are bad in America, They're bad in New York. They're

2272
01:44:33,680 --> 01:44:34,960
Speaker 1: bad overseas, they're bad anywhere.

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01:44:35,240 --> 01:44:39,400
Speaker 7: For twenty five kicks Sunday afternoon, Lucas Oil Stadium, Kevin Bond,

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01:44:39,479 --> 01:44:42,200
Speaker 7: what are our injury updates as of yesterday when the

2275
01:44:42,280 --> 01:44:44,280
Speaker 7: last time we spoke to anybody from the culture.

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01:44:44,520 --> 01:44:45,040
Speaker 1: Not a whole lot.

2277
01:44:45,120 --> 01:44:47,599
Speaker 2: Taekwon lewis listed a day to day with a growing injury.

2278
01:44:47,680 --> 01:44:51,040
Speaker 2: There are some reports about Samson evicomas seen multiple weeks.

2279
01:44:51,160 --> 01:44:55,120
Speaker 2: Shane Stiken wouldn't confirm that's so. Again, I think past

2280
01:44:55,200 --> 01:44:57,639
Speaker 2: rush I would disagree with Joel. I think pass rush

2281
01:44:58,320 --> 01:45:02,400
Speaker 2: is more pressing than the corner right now, and if

2282
01:45:02,479 --> 01:45:05,320
Speaker 2: you have to factor in health then I think that

2283
01:45:05,439 --> 01:45:07,559
Speaker 2: kind of adds to it. So definitely something to keep

2284
01:45:07,600 --> 01:45:12,000
Speaker 2: an eye on and could mean more snaps for j T. Tuymaloaw,

2285
01:45:12,080 --> 01:45:13,800
Speaker 2: who has not had a very big role here in

2286
01:45:13,880 --> 01:45:14,639
Speaker 2: his rookie campaign.

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01:45:14,720 --> 01:45:16,599
Speaker 7: How many STAPs has he taken so far this year?

2288
01:45:16,880 --> 01:45:18,400
Speaker 2: I want to say it was twenty two on Sunday.

2289
01:45:18,400 --> 01:45:20,120
Speaker 2: I don't know the official number if you had them

2290
01:45:20,160 --> 01:45:22,000
Speaker 2: all up, but it hasn't been much. And again he's

2291
01:45:22,040 --> 01:45:23,240
Speaker 2: been a healthy scratch a few times.

2292
01:45:23,360 --> 01:45:25,760
Speaker 7: All right. Last night doubleheader on Monday Night Football to

2293
01:45:25,840 --> 01:45:28,360
Speaker 7: wrap up the week of the NFL. Detroit Lions got

2294
01:45:28,400 --> 01:45:30,639
Speaker 7: a huge game from Jamar Gibbs one hundred and thirty

2295
01:45:30,680 --> 01:45:33,000
Speaker 7: six yards rushing two touchdowns. He added more than eighty

2296
01:45:33,439 --> 01:45:35,559
Speaker 7: receiving in that when the Lions beat the Tampa Bay

2297
01:45:35,560 --> 01:45:36,760
Speaker 7: Buccaneers twenty four to nine.

2298
01:45:37,400 --> 01:45:40,479
Speaker 1: And the Bucks kept getting the ball late in the

2299
01:45:40,520 --> 01:45:40,960
Speaker 1: fourth quarter.

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Speaker 7: I don't know if you watched it in that game

2301
01:45:42,120 --> 01:45:43,640
Speaker 7: last night, but every time they got the ball, they

2302
01:45:43,720 --> 01:45:45,160
Speaker 7: just couldn't do anything with it. And they were on

2303
01:45:45,240 --> 01:45:47,560
Speaker 7: this They were right around midfield for most of the

2304
01:45:47,600 --> 01:45:50,679
Speaker 7: fourth quarter. They just could not get past the Detroit

2305
01:45:50,760 --> 01:45:51,680
Speaker 7: Lion was no.

2306
01:45:51,760 --> 01:45:55,280
Speaker 2: Name Lion DB's. They're really banged up, and they stepped

2307
01:45:55,360 --> 01:45:57,080
Speaker 2: up and made some huge plays.

2308
01:45:56,760 --> 01:45:58,280
Speaker 5: Against Baker May had a culture win.

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01:45:59,160 --> 01:46:00,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, Dan Cambell will.

2310
01:46:00,160 --> 01:46:03,280
Speaker 2: Probably their post game and hopefully to Mike Evans injuries

2311
01:46:03,320 --> 01:46:07,000
Speaker 2: not season ending. He's been an incredibly durable and consistent

2312
01:46:07,080 --> 01:46:11,280
Speaker 2: player throughout his career and he injured it sounded like

2313
01:46:11,320 --> 01:46:12,519
Speaker 2: a collar bone last night.

2314
01:46:12,560 --> 01:46:12,840
Speaker 5: Broke it.

2315
01:46:12,920 --> 01:46:14,360
Speaker 7: I believe I have broken collar bone.

2316
01:46:14,400 --> 01:46:16,280
Speaker 2: So we'll see if he can get back at some

2317
01:46:16,479 --> 01:46:17,360
Speaker 2: point here this season.

2318
01:46:17,400 --> 01:46:19,680
Speaker 7: All right, Later last night for Seattle Seahawks at home

2319
01:46:19,760 --> 01:46:23,240
Speaker 7: beat the Houston Texans twenty seven to nineteen. Texans fault

2320
01:46:23,240 --> 01:46:26,040
Speaker 7: to two to four in the AFC South but Man

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01:46:26,280 --> 01:46:29,200
Speaker 7: Jackson Smith and jigbut Eight catches one hundred and twenty

2322
01:46:29,200 --> 01:46:32,600
Speaker 7: three yards in a touchdown. He is clearly one of

2323
01:46:32,640 --> 01:46:34,680
Speaker 7: the top three or four receivers in the NFL right now.

2324
01:46:34,760 --> 01:46:36,519
Speaker 7: It's every week posting numbers like that.

2325
01:46:36,720 --> 01:46:40,360
Speaker 1: James, he is playing very good football. And Sam Darnold

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01:46:40,400 --> 01:46:41,519
Speaker 1: also played very good football.

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Speaker 8: Yeah.

2328
01:46:41,920 --> 01:46:44,720
Speaker 7: Also Major League Baseball last night we now have two

2329
01:46:44,840 --> 01:46:48,120
Speaker 7: contestants for the twenty twenty five World Series. That Toronto

2330
01:46:48,280 --> 01:46:51,080
Speaker 7: Blue Jay has got a three run home run from

2331
01:46:51,920 --> 01:46:54,240
Speaker 7: George Springer in the bottom of the seventh to beat

2332
01:46:54,280 --> 01:46:56,360
Speaker 7: the Mariners by a score of four to three. That'll

2333
01:46:56,520 --> 01:46:58,880
Speaker 7: go back to the Series for the first time since

2334
01:46:58,960 --> 01:47:01,640
Speaker 7: the nineties. The Mariner have never been there. And they

2335
01:47:01,720 --> 01:47:05,760
Speaker 7: were that close two run lead with two and two

2336
01:47:05,800 --> 01:47:08,200
Speaker 7: thirds innings to go and just couldn't quite close it down.

2337
01:47:08,400 --> 01:47:09,479
Speaker 5: Mark, what in the world does this?

2338
01:47:09,560 --> 01:47:12,320
Speaker 2: In the YouTube chat people trying to justify the Cubs

2339
01:47:12,360 --> 01:47:13,599
Speaker 2: and the playoffs this year.

2340
01:47:13,520 --> 01:47:14,120
Speaker 7: We're talking about?

2341
01:47:14,680 --> 01:47:17,080
Speaker 5: Is that Mark on the YouTube One of his minions

2342
01:47:17,120 --> 01:47:17,439
Speaker 5: in here.

2343
01:47:17,520 --> 01:47:19,880
Speaker 2: You forgot to remind Joel the Cubs won four games

2344
01:47:19,920 --> 01:47:21,639
Speaker 2: in the playoffs and the Brewers won three.

2345
01:47:21,800 --> 01:47:23,000
Speaker 1: Both played two series.

2346
01:47:23,120 --> 01:47:26,599
Speaker 5: It's actually accurate, accurate.

2347
01:47:26,680 --> 01:47:29,120
Speaker 2: I mean we're all about facts. Who beat who when

2348
01:47:29,120 --> 01:47:30,360
Speaker 2: they lined up across.

2349
01:47:30,080 --> 01:47:36,400
Speaker 5: From each other. Well, yes, the Brewers one, congratulations and the.

2350
01:47:36,479 --> 01:47:38,400
Speaker 1: Troll on me. I'm not gonna lie. I would always

2351
01:47:38,439 --> 01:47:40,840
Speaker 1: be like if my team loses to your team and

2352
01:47:41,000 --> 01:47:42,640
Speaker 1: you losing the next round, I'll come sit next to

2353
01:47:42,720 --> 01:47:46,160
Speaker 1: me and Cabo USA here George.

2354
01:47:46,320 --> 01:47:48,479
Speaker 5: Jumping on the Reds bandwagon only needed for them to

2355
01:47:48,520 --> 01:47:50,200
Speaker 5: get torched in the wild card.

2356
01:47:50,520 --> 01:47:52,320
Speaker 2: If you would have asked me to wear the shirt again,

2357
01:47:52,400 --> 01:47:54,240
Speaker 2: maybe it would have been a different story for your team.

2358
01:47:54,240 --> 01:47:55,400
Speaker 5: I didn't need your pity.

2359
01:47:56,360 --> 01:47:58,200
Speaker 7: Getting one of the World Series will be Friday night,

2360
01:47:58,360 --> 01:48:03,080
Speaker 7: eight o'clock in Toronto, Blue Jays hosting the Los Angeles Dodgers.

2361
01:48:03,880 --> 01:48:09,800
Speaker 7: Still just floating after that game by shoe Otane last week. Also,

2362
01:48:09,880 --> 01:48:13,519
Speaker 7: we can tell you NBA season opens up tonight pair

2363
01:48:13,600 --> 01:48:17,200
Speaker 7: of games there. Houston Rockets start things off against the

2364
01:48:17,200 --> 01:48:19,719
Speaker 7: Oklahoma City Thunder. That one begins at seven point thirty

2365
01:48:19,960 --> 01:48:22,519
Speaker 7: on both NBC and Peacock. That'll be followed up by

2366
01:48:22,640 --> 01:48:26,759
Speaker 7: Golden State in Los Angeles the Los Angeles Lakers. Scotty

2367
01:48:26,840 --> 01:48:29,519
Speaker 7: did confirm that it'll be Mike Tarico on the play

2368
01:48:29,560 --> 01:48:32,439
Speaker 7: by play for the first game and Noah Eagle for

2369
01:48:32,600 --> 01:48:35,479
Speaker 7: the second game in the NBA doubleheader, So that's what's

2370
01:48:35,520 --> 01:48:38,760
Speaker 7: going on there. Coming up this weekend. College football number

2371
01:48:38,760 --> 01:48:43,120
Speaker 7: two Indiana of course hosting UCLA. Rutgers plays at Purdue

2372
01:48:43,680 --> 01:48:46,759
Speaker 7: Notre Dame. I believe has the week off to continue

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Speaker 7: to get better.

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01:48:47,360 --> 01:48:49,960
Speaker 2: That sounds like Ryan Brown pretty iffy for Purdue. Their

2375
01:48:50,040 --> 01:48:53,600
Speaker 2: quarterback suffer shoulder injury as they got shut out against Northwestern,

2376
01:48:54,320 --> 01:48:56,400
Speaker 2: so we'll see about his status. If Purdue is going

2377
01:48:56,439 --> 01:48:58,559
Speaker 2: to get any Big Ten win this year, you would

2378
01:48:58,600 --> 01:49:02,400
Speaker 2: think it would be Rutgers. Ki Singleton, a decently highly

2379
01:49:02,520 --> 01:49:05,320
Speaker 2: ranked recruit, would get start there.

2380
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Speaker 7: And James we talked about in the first hour. But

2381
01:49:07,600 --> 01:49:10,479
Speaker 7: for those who missed it, Kaitlyn Clark is still listed

2382
01:49:10,520 --> 01:49:12,680
Speaker 7: this week. Two weeks. She's been playing basketball, but just

2383
01:49:13,080 --> 01:49:15,400
Speaker 7: some light two on two maybe three on three. Stepani

2384
01:49:15,400 --> 01:49:17,360
Speaker 7: White said she's not ready for five on five yet,

2385
01:49:17,400 --> 01:49:19,599
Speaker 7: and there because they have the time, they're just gonna

2386
01:49:19,600 --> 01:49:21,599
Speaker 7: take this as slowly as they possibly can.

2387
01:49:22,040 --> 01:49:25,040
Speaker 1: Yes, I believe you said this to Chloe Peterson and

2388
01:49:25,160 --> 01:49:28,720
Speaker 1: the Indie Star staff on their podcast. So again you

2389
01:49:28,720 --> 01:49:31,320
Speaker 1: can listen to that after our show. But I must

2390
01:49:31,320 --> 01:49:34,439
Speaker 1: say for Kaylyn Clark, honestly, just give me the update

2391
01:49:34,479 --> 01:49:36,679
Speaker 1: of when she's hoping again five on five, And honestly,

2392
01:49:37,000 --> 01:49:39,639
Speaker 1: even if you don't get me that, I'll just take

2393
01:49:39,640 --> 01:49:41,320
Speaker 1: a breather from all of that. I feel like, just

2394
01:49:41,360 --> 01:49:43,960
Speaker 1: get healthy and we'll check back in with you when

2395
01:49:44,200 --> 01:49:45,760
Speaker 1: you know the next count of year rolls around.

2396
01:49:45,760 --> 01:49:47,760
Speaker 5: At this point, Lord knows, the WNBA has plenty of

2397
01:49:47,840 --> 01:49:49,080
Speaker 5: downtime in between seasons.

2398
01:49:49,200 --> 01:49:52,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, and honestly they probably needed after all the chaos

2399
01:49:52,360 --> 01:49:55,320
Speaker 1: they're going through right now with CBA arguments, and so

2400
01:49:55,360 --> 01:49:57,280
Speaker 1: I would imagine that Kaylyn Clark is honestly a bigger

2401
01:49:57,320 --> 01:49:59,840
Speaker 1: voice than that right now versus where she's at injury.

2402
01:50:00,640 --> 01:50:03,040
Speaker 7: All right, coming up at a moment, we will listen

2403
01:50:03,080 --> 01:50:05,880
Speaker 7: to Kurt Signetti pump up the UCLA Bruins, who he

2404
01:50:05,960 --> 01:50:09,560
Speaker 7: is calling an undefeated team. Find out why next on

2405
01:50:09,640 --> 01:50:11,479
Speaker 7: ninety three five and one oh seven to five Fan.

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Speaker 2: Bright nine thirty Here on a Tuesday, Minor Scott Dolson

2407
01:50:16,439 --> 01:50:18,599
Speaker 2: going to join us tomorrow, looking forward to that conversation.

2408
01:50:18,720 --> 01:50:22,759
Speaker 2: The iu AD Tuesdays at eight o'clock.

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01:50:22,880 --> 01:50:23,920
Speaker 1: This time of year, it.

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01:50:24,040 --> 01:50:26,080
Speaker 2: Means Rick Carlisle we had him on for the first

2411
01:50:26,120 --> 01:50:28,800
Speaker 2: time here coming up in this season, the Pacers will

2412
01:50:28,800 --> 01:50:34,320
Speaker 2: get underway Thursday. And part of yesterday's news cycle certainly involved,

2413
01:50:34,600 --> 01:50:37,920
Speaker 2: probably right around this time yesterday, the arrest of rookie

2414
01:50:38,160 --> 01:50:42,519
Speaker 2: Cam Jones. And you know, right now for the Pacers,

2415
01:50:42,600 --> 01:50:45,360
Speaker 2: Cam Jones deal with an injury and was unlikely to

2416
01:50:45,680 --> 01:50:48,840
Speaker 2: play here to start the season. And I'm trying to

2417
01:50:48,840 --> 01:50:52,280
Speaker 2: think of the official charges, James, dude, do you remember

2418
01:50:52,360 --> 01:50:54,559
Speaker 2: it was speeding and was it resisting law enforcement?

2419
01:50:54,800 --> 01:50:58,720
Speaker 1: Yes, so he got charged with a Class A misdemeanor

2420
01:50:58,760 --> 01:50:59,920
Speaker 1: and a level six felony.

2421
01:51:00,800 --> 01:51:05,240
Speaker 2: So that was the initial report yesterday. Rick Carlisle h

2422
01:51:05,360 --> 01:51:07,920
Speaker 2: shared his thoughts with us earlier today on the arrest

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01:51:07,960 --> 01:51:08,599
Speaker 2: of Cam Jones.

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01:51:09,040 --> 01:51:13,200
Speaker 9: Yeah, talked to him yesterday. He came in and uh,

2425
01:51:14,120 --> 01:51:17,680
Speaker 9: he was very very contrite, you know about about the

2426
01:51:17,760 --> 01:51:21,680
Speaker 9: situation of being pulled over. You know, this is a

2427
01:51:21,800 --> 01:51:26,000
Speaker 9: kid with exemplary character, going back to his entire career

2428
01:51:26,080 --> 01:51:31,720
Speaker 9: at Marquette. After hearing the details of this, I think

2429
01:51:32,000 --> 01:51:34,320
Speaker 9: I think in the In the end, this is going

2430
01:51:34,400 --> 01:51:38,040
Speaker 9: to end up being a speeding ticket. You know, a lot,

2431
01:51:38,080 --> 01:51:40,880
Speaker 9: a lot of times things that are on the on

2432
01:51:41,000 --> 01:51:45,400
Speaker 9: the police blodder or are overblown. You know, this is

2433
01:51:45,439 --> 01:51:49,200
Speaker 9: a kid that was was driving, driving a little faster

2434
01:51:49,320 --> 01:51:51,479
Speaker 9: than he should have been, trying to get to his uh,

2435
01:51:52,360 --> 01:51:54,439
Speaker 9: his his workout and rehab thing.

2436
01:51:54,520 --> 01:51:57,400
Speaker 10: He's run a few minutes behind, and so you know,

2437
01:51:57,479 --> 01:52:00,840
Speaker 10: he got pulled over and and uh, you know, the

2438
01:52:00,960 --> 01:52:03,000
Speaker 10: thing ended up. The thing ended up in the in

2439
01:52:03,560 --> 01:52:04,240
Speaker 10: you know, in the news.

2440
01:52:04,640 --> 01:52:07,400
Speaker 9: So uh, I think in the end it's gonna be

2441
01:52:08,720 --> 01:52:12,120
Speaker 9: a speeding ticket probably, And he's going through a thing

2442
01:52:12,240 --> 01:52:16,240
Speaker 9: right now where he's got a back situation that is

2443
01:52:17,280 --> 01:52:18,520
Speaker 9: only gonna heal.

2444
01:52:18,800 --> 01:52:19,880
Speaker 10: With time.

2445
01:52:21,120 --> 01:52:26,040
Speaker 9: Time in the hyperbar chamber. Can't do can't do too

2446
01:52:26,160 --> 01:52:30,160
Speaker 9: much moving around. You know, it's a very it's got

2447
01:52:30,280 --> 01:52:32,599
Speaker 9: to be a very difficult thing to go through, particularly

2448
01:52:32,800 --> 01:52:35,560
Speaker 9: given our point guard situation for him. And yes, he

2449
01:52:35,640 --> 01:52:37,640
Speaker 9: would have been one of the guys in the conversation.

2450
01:52:37,880 --> 01:52:41,400
Speaker 9: So you know, I said a couple a few days

2451
01:52:41,439 --> 01:52:45,440
Speaker 9: ago that you know, we would revisit, you know, conversation

2452
01:52:45,520 --> 01:52:48,400
Speaker 9: about where he's at, probably on November ninth, when we

2453
01:52:48,479 --> 01:52:50,679
Speaker 9: were gonna do the same thing with t J McConnell.

2454
01:52:50,760 --> 01:52:54,639
Speaker 9: That'll be a one month after TJ's injury and then

2455
01:52:54,720 --> 01:52:58,519
Speaker 9: we'll see what's on from there. But uh, you know, Cams,

2456
01:52:58,680 --> 01:53:02,160
Speaker 9: Cam's doing fine, and uh you know, and this is

2457
01:53:02,439 --> 01:53:04,120
Speaker 9: this is gonna be a blip on the radar screen.

2458
01:53:06,520 --> 01:53:10,360
Speaker 7: That's the head coach of the Indiana Indiana Pacers, Rick Carlisle,

2459
01:53:10,439 --> 01:53:13,800
Speaker 7: talking about Cam Jones getting arrested yesterday. You mentioned level

2460
01:53:13,840 --> 01:53:17,519
Speaker 7: six felony in Indiana, James, that's the least serious felony charge.

2461
01:53:18,360 --> 01:53:19,240
Speaker 7: I'm still a felony.

2462
01:53:19,320 --> 01:53:20,800
Speaker 1: I was gonna say, yeah, I don't ever want to

2463
01:53:20,840 --> 01:53:24,000
Speaker 1: hear felony in my name in the same sentence. But yeah,

2464
01:53:24,040 --> 01:53:26,679
Speaker 1: it sounds like Rick feels a lot more optimistic about

2465
01:53:26,680 --> 01:53:31,400
Speaker 1: situation versus the version that we got yesterday. So more

2466
01:53:31,439 --> 01:53:33,559
Speaker 1: to come from that. Believe, his court date, I want

2467
01:53:33,600 --> 01:53:37,120
Speaker 1: to say, is Thursday to twenty third, so he's got

2468
01:53:37,240 --> 01:53:39,560
Speaker 1: to probably see a judge at some point to you know,

2469
01:53:39,640 --> 01:53:42,040
Speaker 1: get to the bottom of whatever took place yesterday.

2470
01:53:42,280 --> 01:53:43,800
Speaker 7: All right, So we'll keep an eye on that and

2471
01:53:43,840 --> 01:53:46,240
Speaker 7: the Pacers get going on Thursday night against the Oklahoma

2472
01:53:46,280 --> 01:53:48,040
Speaker 7: City Thunder. That'll be over at the field House. You'll

2473
01:53:48,040 --> 01:53:50,599
Speaker 7: hear it live on ninety three five and one seven

2474
01:53:50,760 --> 01:53:54,760
Speaker 7: five the fan as the incredible high and then that

2475
01:53:54,920 --> 01:53:58,400
Speaker 7: crashing end to the season. I think carries over to

2476
01:53:58,439 --> 01:54:00,960
Speaker 7: a nice celebration of the team before the game starts

2477
01:54:01,000 --> 01:54:03,240
Speaker 7: on Thursday night. I think that'll be a rockous atmosphere

2478
01:54:03,240 --> 01:54:03,559
Speaker 7: over there.

2479
01:54:03,680 --> 01:54:05,560
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's something that Rick ricolluded to.

2480
01:54:05,680 --> 01:54:07,840
Speaker 2: We asked him that kind of near the end, and

2481
01:54:07,880 --> 01:54:09,719
Speaker 2: you can catch that full interview up on our podcast

2482
01:54:09,800 --> 01:54:11,640
Speaker 2: page from earlier today. But yeah, it sounds like there

2483
01:54:11,680 --> 01:54:15,519
Speaker 2: will be some acknowledgment of the Eastern Conference champion. I'm

2484
01:54:15,560 --> 01:54:17,160
Speaker 2: totally good with it. I know we get into this

2485
01:54:17,240 --> 01:54:18,960
Speaker 2: debate you know often, you know, how much do you

2486
01:54:19,120 --> 01:54:24,240
Speaker 2: celebrate you know, non champion chip seasons. But we had

2487
01:54:24,280 --> 01:54:26,320
Speaker 2: a listener point out to us. I think it was

2488
01:54:26,439 --> 01:54:29,000
Speaker 2: Noah on the tech side a little bit earlier, like

2489
01:54:29,040 --> 01:54:30,960
Speaker 2: when you win a trophy for something, I think it

2490
01:54:31,000 --> 01:54:33,760
Speaker 2: should be celebrated, and I would agree with that. So

2491
01:54:34,640 --> 01:54:36,120
Speaker 2: you don't really get that opportunity, I think in the

2492
01:54:36,160 --> 01:54:41,280
Speaker 2: preseason in front of a full house to acknowledge that group.

2493
01:54:41,360 --> 01:54:43,720
Speaker 2: And so I have no issue whatsoever, And I think

2494
01:54:43,760 --> 01:54:46,920
Speaker 2: the pacer should have some sort of pregame situation. It's

2495
01:54:46,960 --> 01:54:49,800
Speaker 2: a little awkward that it's the thunder in the building,

2496
01:54:49,880 --> 01:54:52,080
Speaker 2: but this just happens to be how the schedule laid out.

2497
01:54:52,160 --> 01:54:52,360
Speaker 8: Yeah.

2498
01:54:52,360 --> 01:54:54,120
Speaker 7: See, I've always felt when it comes to banners, I

2499
01:54:54,240 --> 01:54:56,080
Speaker 7: agree with what he had to say to me. You

2500
01:54:56,160 --> 01:54:59,160
Speaker 7: get championship banners. You put those things right in the

2501
01:54:59,240 --> 01:55:01,720
Speaker 7: middle of the arena. They're big, they're huge, you can't

2502
01:55:01,760 --> 01:55:05,840
Speaker 7: miss those things. I believe stuff like conference championships, I

2503
01:55:05,920 --> 01:55:07,520
Speaker 7: think you should have them, but I think those go

2504
01:55:07,680 --> 01:55:09,840
Speaker 7: up over kind of on the side as kind of

2505
01:55:09,880 --> 01:55:12,120
Speaker 7: something that we did. And I've always thought you could

2506
01:55:12,160 --> 01:55:16,040
Speaker 7: even have a a banner for divisional championships where you

2507
01:55:16,160 --> 01:55:18,880
Speaker 7: just list the year that you won the diditional championship.

2508
01:55:19,320 --> 01:55:23,120
Speaker 7: So there's a definite order of the kinds of banners, you.

2509
01:55:23,160 --> 01:55:26,040
Speaker 2: Know, I think Final four is our big accomplishments from

2510
01:55:26,040 --> 01:55:29,400
Speaker 2: a college basketball standpoint. And you know, obviously you know

2511
01:55:29,440 --> 01:55:31,960
Speaker 2: you got Purdue listing, you know, Big Ten championships, And

2512
01:55:32,000 --> 01:55:33,720
Speaker 2: I know a lot of Indiana Purdue fans go back

2513
01:55:33,760 --> 01:55:36,160
Speaker 2: and forth in the old banner debate and the dustiness

2514
01:55:36,200 --> 01:55:39,520
Speaker 2: of some banners and the lack of national titles for

2515
01:55:39,640 --> 01:55:42,880
Speaker 2: other banners. So yeah, I'm totally fine with you know,

2516
01:55:42,960 --> 01:55:46,600
Speaker 2: to me, that's an accomplishment. Like just because the Pacers

2517
01:55:46,680 --> 01:55:50,080
Speaker 2: felt one game short, Notre Dame falls a game shirt short.

2518
01:55:51,000 --> 01:55:52,600
Speaker 2: You're a pretty sick fan if the only thing you

2519
01:55:52,960 --> 01:55:54,960
Speaker 2: care about is wasting that trophy.

2520
01:55:55,040 --> 01:55:56,800
Speaker 1: I think the Pacers banner should say, Okay, see you

2521
01:55:56,800 --> 01:55:57,240
Speaker 1: got lucky.

2522
01:55:59,320 --> 01:56:00,440
Speaker 7: Put it in parent the seas.

2523
01:56:00,840 --> 01:56:04,919
Speaker 1: Yeah no, but no, not put it in bold put Tyresa,

2524
01:56:05,040 --> 01:56:07,040
Speaker 1: Like just have you know we have all this technology

2525
01:56:07,160 --> 01:56:08,680
Speaker 1: just to put a little Montagy.

2526
01:56:08,520 --> 01:56:12,280
Speaker 5: There doing the old you know, cord to raise the

2527
01:56:12,320 --> 01:56:17,000
Speaker 5: banner like Brooklyn Nets raise a Eastern Conference participant banner.

2528
01:56:17,760 --> 01:56:22,760
Speaker 1: We're played. It's gonna be some nasty uh games out

2529
01:56:22,800 --> 01:56:25,280
Speaker 1: there for sure, But I'm very curious you have the

2530
01:56:25,320 --> 01:56:28,320
Speaker 1: season unfolds for the Eastern Conference and where the Pastsers

2531
01:56:28,360 --> 01:56:31,080
Speaker 1: stack up. But yeah, going back to Kevin's question from earlier,

2532
01:56:31,120 --> 01:56:33,360
Speaker 1: like who's gonna win the East? I think that's what

2533
01:56:33,480 --> 01:56:36,240
Speaker 1: makes this thing the most is like considering the injuries

2534
01:56:36,280 --> 01:56:39,400
Speaker 1: to other teams. If Halliburn were healthy, it'll be you know,

2535
01:56:39,480 --> 01:56:43,000
Speaker 1: wide open, honestly, if everyone was was healthy, Pacers, Celtics,

2536
01:56:43,040 --> 01:56:46,200
Speaker 1: et cetera, et cetera. Maybe right there again, so I

2537
01:56:46,320 --> 01:56:48,120
Speaker 1: do kind of use as a gap year, and the

2538
01:56:48,160 --> 01:56:51,160
Speaker 1: Pacers want admit that. But what does this year do

2539
01:56:51,280 --> 01:56:54,000
Speaker 1: for you going forward when presumably you get Tyree's back

2540
01:56:54,040 --> 01:56:54,480
Speaker 1: in two years.

2541
01:56:56,200 --> 01:56:58,440
Speaker 7: You just try to keep it going, keep these guys together,

2542
01:56:58,520 --> 01:57:01,240
Speaker 7: keep them healthy more than they anything, and then you

2543
01:57:01,360 --> 01:57:03,880
Speaker 7: try to regroup next year. But yeah, if they can

2544
01:57:03,960 --> 01:57:07,240
Speaker 7: play spoiler down the stretch, I would love that. If

2545
01:57:07,280 --> 01:57:09,080
Speaker 7: they're the kind of team. Look, I look at their

2546
01:57:09,160 --> 01:57:12,920
Speaker 7: late games. They play at Cleveland towards the end of

2547
01:57:12,960 --> 01:57:16,680
Speaker 7: the season. They don't really play a bunch of great

2548
01:57:16,840 --> 01:57:19,920
Speaker 7: Eastern Conference teams. I know Detroit's on the rise. I

2549
01:57:19,960 --> 01:57:21,640
Speaker 7: don't know what Philadelphia is going to be about. Those

2550
01:57:21,680 --> 01:57:24,240
Speaker 7: are their last two games. But maybe maybe you can

2551
01:57:24,360 --> 01:57:26,440
Speaker 7: screw things up for some people down the stretch. I've

2552
01:57:26,440 --> 01:57:29,080
Speaker 7: always liked that too. If you can't compete for a title,

2553
01:57:29,120 --> 01:57:30,240
Speaker 7: mess it up for somebody else.

2554
01:57:30,840 --> 01:57:33,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's the oh you know, if I'm going home,

2555
01:57:33,800 --> 01:57:34,600
Speaker 1: you coming home with me.

2556
01:57:35,360 --> 01:57:36,840
Speaker 7: It's like when someone pushes you in the pool, you

2557
01:57:36,880 --> 01:57:37,680
Speaker 7: got to pull them in with you.

2558
01:57:37,800 --> 01:57:37,920
Speaker 10: Right.

2559
01:57:39,160 --> 01:57:41,040
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, I guess I don't know. I haven't done

2560
01:57:41,080 --> 01:57:42,160
Speaker 1: that much of my life.

2561
01:57:44,600 --> 01:57:46,640
Speaker 7: All right. So it's great to talk to Rick Carlisle

2562
01:57:46,720 --> 01:57:49,600
Speaker 7: earlier today. That's already posted. You said, Mark Dykton, you

2563
01:57:49,680 --> 01:57:54,160
Speaker 7: are Johnny on the spot. So again one wait, wait

2564
01:57:54,240 --> 01:57:55,720
Speaker 7: until ten oh one, and then you can go and

2565
01:57:55,800 --> 01:57:57,920
Speaker 7: do that and we'll all be good as far as

2566
01:57:57,960 --> 01:58:00,560
Speaker 7: that is concerned. I want to point that again for

2567
01:58:00,680 --> 01:58:03,520
Speaker 7: those that start to look at those things. Colts are

2568
01:58:03,600 --> 01:58:06,640
Speaker 7: fourteen and a half point favorites Kevin over the Tennessee Titans.

2569
01:58:07,040 --> 01:58:10,600
Speaker 7: You just don't see lines like that, and I think

2570
01:58:10,720 --> 01:58:13,440
Speaker 7: people are acknowledging that, yeah, to Tennessee's not very good,

2571
01:58:14,000 --> 01:58:16,640
Speaker 7: but that Colts offense is for real right now.

2572
01:58:17,880 --> 01:58:20,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's the second biggest line in the NFL this season,

2573
01:58:21,080 --> 01:58:23,840
Speaker 2: so anytime, you know, I think Bill Saints.

2574
01:58:23,560 --> 01:58:24,560
Speaker 7: I believe was the other one.

2575
01:58:24,720 --> 01:58:26,320
Speaker 2: So you know, obviously, when you have a line that

2576
01:58:26,480 --> 01:58:30,440
Speaker 2: is north of two touchdowns or two touchdowns, it takes

2577
01:58:30,520 --> 01:58:32,680
Speaker 2: two to tango. And the Colts are very good and

2578
01:58:32,920 --> 01:58:36,600
Speaker 2: the Titans are very bad. So hence the line. And again,

2579
01:58:36,640 --> 01:58:39,839
Speaker 2: interim head coach Mike McCoy, you actually brought Shane Stiken

2580
01:58:39,960 --> 01:58:42,760
Speaker 2: back to San Diego to be with the Chargers back

2581
01:58:42,800 --> 01:58:44,240
Speaker 2: in the day, so there is a little bit of

2582
01:58:44,320 --> 01:58:47,080
Speaker 2: connection on that sideline. The Titans hung in there for

2583
01:58:47,160 --> 01:58:49,280
Speaker 2: what maybe a quarter or two against the Patriots, and

2584
01:58:49,320 --> 01:58:52,520
Speaker 2: then Mike Crables bunch steamrolled them in the second half.

2585
01:58:52,600 --> 01:58:54,600
Speaker 2: They did lose Jeffrey Simmons in that game to a

2586
01:58:54,640 --> 01:58:58,200
Speaker 2: hamstring injury, who's probably their best player. So that also

2587
01:58:58,320 --> 01:58:59,800
Speaker 2: is another thing in the Colts favor.

2588
01:59:00,000 --> 01:59:01,880
Speaker 5: I say, you don't see that line usually. You also

2589
01:59:02,160 --> 01:59:05,520
Speaker 5: really don't see it in divisional games. That's when you because.

2590
01:59:05,240 --> 01:59:06,360
Speaker 1: Well, good point, good point.

2591
01:59:06,440 --> 01:59:08,400
Speaker 5: That's that's why it's like, oh that's interesting.

2592
01:59:08,520 --> 01:59:11,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, Packers Bengals, I think was also kind of a

2593
01:59:11,040 --> 01:59:14,080
Speaker 2: big line this year, right around two touchdowns. So yeah,

2594
01:59:14,360 --> 01:59:17,880
Speaker 2: it hasn't happened very often. Like I say to Joel,

2595
01:59:17,960 --> 01:59:20,840
Speaker 2: it's you know what, twelve time. I think since two

2596
01:59:20,880 --> 01:59:22,920
Speaker 2: thousand for this franchise. You think about that, all the

2597
01:59:22,960 --> 01:59:26,320
Speaker 2: Payton years, you think you'd stumble into, you know, quite

2598
01:59:26,320 --> 01:59:28,600
Speaker 2: a few of those games, but even then you didn't

2599
01:59:28,640 --> 01:59:31,280
Speaker 2: have them. So typically, the cults of handle business quite

2600
01:59:31,320 --> 01:59:35,240
Speaker 2: quite well in these matchups, and I expect them to

2601
01:59:35,560 --> 01:59:36,680
Speaker 2: do that on Sunday, all.

2602
01:59:36,640 --> 01:59:38,520
Speaker 7: Right, coming up at a moment to Indiana, Hoosier is

2603
01:59:38,520 --> 01:59:40,520
Speaker 7: getting ready to take on UCLA in the Big Ten

2604
01:59:40,640 --> 01:59:43,040
Speaker 7: this weekend. We'll talk about that and hear from Kurt

2605
01:59:43,080 --> 01:59:47,080
Speaker 7: Signetti as we continue next ninety three. Things are going

2606
01:59:47,120 --> 01:59:50,720
Speaker 7: well on football terms around these parts. We've talked about

2607
01:59:50,760 --> 01:59:52,959
Speaker 7: the six and one Colts, and how about the Hoosiers

2608
01:59:53,040 --> 01:59:55,120
Speaker 7: or not only seven and oho overall, but four and

2609
01:59:55,200 --> 01:59:58,680
Speaker 7: oh in conference play right there with Ohio State. Those

2610
01:59:58,720 --> 02:00:00,760
Speaker 7: are the number one and two t means in the country.

2611
02:00:00,840 --> 02:00:04,800
Speaker 7: Ohio State number one, Indiana number two. Ucla was having

2612
02:00:04,840 --> 02:00:07,600
Speaker 7: a tough season, they fired their head coach. They're now

2613
02:00:07,840 --> 02:00:11,200
Speaker 7: three and one in conference play with three straight wins

2614
02:00:11,280 --> 02:00:14,800
Speaker 7: in the Big Ten, and Kurt Signetti, the head coach

2615
02:00:14,840 --> 02:00:17,800
Speaker 7: for the Indiana Hoosiers, who we know likes. He's one

2616
02:00:17,840 --> 02:00:19,720
Speaker 7: of those guys, Kevin. He likes to say nice things

2617
02:00:19,760 --> 02:00:21,480
Speaker 7: about the other team as they get ready to come in.

2618
02:00:21,600 --> 02:00:24,040
Speaker 7: He didn't. He's not a bulletin board type guy. He

2619
02:00:24,240 --> 02:00:25,920
Speaker 7: likes to pump him up. But man, he was pumping

2620
02:00:26,000 --> 02:00:28,120
Speaker 7: up Ucla yesterday in his first comments.

2621
02:00:29,640 --> 02:00:33,560
Speaker 11: Ucla or playing a three and oh football team that's undefeated.

2622
02:00:34,360 --> 02:00:37,240
Speaker 11: That's three and oh in the conference. Since they have

2623
02:00:37,400 --> 02:00:42,760
Speaker 11: retooled their staff and now have their new defensive coordinator

2624
02:00:42,800 --> 02:00:47,680
Speaker 11: and offensive staff in place. Very impressive football team. Okay,

2625
02:00:48,680 --> 02:00:52,480
Speaker 11: and offensively, this team is rushing for two hundred and

2626
02:00:52,520 --> 02:00:55,800
Speaker 11: thirty three yards a game right now in their last

2627
02:00:55,840 --> 02:00:58,360
Speaker 11: three games, which would be against Penn State, Michigan State,

2628
02:00:58,400 --> 02:00:58,960
Speaker 11: and Maryland.

2629
02:01:00,480 --> 02:01:02,160
Speaker 7: You like that change is just breaking it down to

2630
02:01:02,240 --> 02:01:04,040
Speaker 7: when the new coach came in. We don't even talk

2631
02:01:04,040 --> 02:01:05,080
Speaker 7: about what happened before that.

2632
02:01:05,720 --> 02:01:07,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, whatever you gotta do to them now, I guess

2633
02:01:07,800 --> 02:01:11,000
Speaker 1: get your team. Excuse me, I thought to Kevin.

2634
02:01:11,040 --> 02:01:12,800
Speaker 7: My voice is going, Sorry, Hi, Kevin, go ahead while

2635
02:01:12,800 --> 02:01:13,120
Speaker 7: he gets here.

2636
02:01:13,200 --> 02:01:14,280
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean I certainly.

2637
02:01:14,040 --> 02:01:15,400
Speaker 1: Get where Sick is going with it.

2638
02:01:15,560 --> 02:01:20,520
Speaker 2: You know, obviously from an interim standpoint, UCLA has been

2639
02:01:20,720 --> 02:01:23,040
Speaker 2: a lot better here in recent weeks. Now we'll see

2640
02:01:23,040 --> 02:01:26,760
Speaker 2: about the health of their quarterback Nico. Probably James is

2641
02:01:26,800 --> 02:01:28,760
Speaker 2: trying to pronounce that last name and that's how he

2642
02:01:28,840 --> 02:01:30,680
Speaker 2: got choked up over there, because that's how I feel.

2643
02:01:30,760 --> 02:01:32,560
Speaker 2: I think my voice is a little bit back, but yeah,

2644
02:01:32,840 --> 02:01:34,920
Speaker 2: try to pronounce Nico's last name. But he got banged

2645
02:01:34,960 --> 02:01:36,840
Speaker 2: up late in their win over Maryland. They came back

2646
02:01:36,840 --> 02:01:40,480
Speaker 2: to beat Maryland, and it sounds like his status a

2647
02:01:40,480 --> 02:01:41,840
Speaker 2: little bit up in the air early in the week

2648
02:01:41,840 --> 02:01:42,760
Speaker 2: because this line is big.

2649
02:01:42,840 --> 02:01:44,520
Speaker 1: It's just as big as the Michigan State.

2650
02:01:44,400 --> 02:01:46,640
Speaker 2: Game, which you know, when you look on paper, UCLA

2651
02:01:46,680 --> 02:01:48,640
Speaker 2: has been playing much better football leading into this game

2652
02:01:48,640 --> 02:01:51,880
Speaker 2: than Michigan State, So you know why is that?

2653
02:01:53,000 --> 02:01:53,360
Speaker 1: Part of it?

2654
02:01:53,480 --> 02:01:56,440
Speaker 2: Probably is the old you know, West Coast travel for

2655
02:01:56,560 --> 02:01:59,520
Speaker 2: a nine am local kickoff time for UCLA in Bloomington.

2656
02:01:59,600 --> 02:02:00,360
Speaker 1: But I I don't know.

2657
02:02:00,440 --> 02:02:03,320
Speaker 2: Maybe Nico's status has something to do with it. So, uh,

2658
02:02:03,360 --> 02:02:05,840
Speaker 2: you know, Indiana should once again roll. Is the bye

2659
02:02:05,880 --> 02:02:07,520
Speaker 2: week next week for Indiana, and I think I have

2660
02:02:07,600 --> 02:02:09,640
Speaker 2: a buy coming up at some point here. I kind

2661
02:02:09,640 --> 02:02:11,560
Speaker 2: of forget what it is. Maybe it's a little bit

2662
02:02:11,600 --> 02:02:14,520
Speaker 2: more Endo November. So yeah, I think it'll be a

2663
02:02:15,000 --> 02:02:15,680
Speaker 2: breeze for India.

2664
02:02:15,800 --> 02:02:19,600
Speaker 1: We're gonna go with Nico. I Yamaalavia, I say I

2665
02:02:19,680 --> 02:02:20,400
Speaker 1: had it and then I.

2666
02:02:23,240 --> 02:02:24,360
Speaker 5: Believe you have for the first one.

2667
02:02:25,280 --> 02:02:27,120
Speaker 7: Yama Layava, That's what I want to say.

2668
02:02:27,200 --> 02:02:27,839
Speaker 5: Sounds beautiful.

2669
02:02:27,920 --> 02:02:30,600
Speaker 7: His brother, Jo's brother is a freshman quarterback on the

2670
02:02:30,640 --> 02:02:31,000
Speaker 7: team too.

2671
02:02:31,160 --> 02:02:33,440
Speaker 2: Oh so it's a battle of brother madback too, then

2672
02:02:33,920 --> 02:02:34,720
Speaker 2: madg Indiana.

2673
02:02:35,000 --> 02:02:38,480
Speaker 5: Yama Layava happy not to be Don Fisher this week? Yes,

2674
02:02:38,520 --> 02:02:40,200
Speaker 5: it's gonna be a hell of a I'd stick with

2675
02:02:40,360 --> 02:02:42,400
Speaker 5: nko Hi, but.

2676
02:02:42,560 --> 02:02:43,000
Speaker 10: No, they are.

2677
02:02:43,160 --> 02:02:45,080
Speaker 7: The one thing they do well is they run the ball,

2678
02:02:45,880 --> 02:02:47,840
Speaker 7: and they've been running the ball, as he said, you know,

2679
02:02:47,960 --> 02:02:50,800
Speaker 7: better than two hundred yards a game. They've had it

2680
02:02:50,880 --> 02:02:53,440
Speaker 7: going on. And uh, do you know who their leading

2681
02:02:53,560 --> 02:02:55,600
Speaker 7: rusher has been so far this season?

2682
02:02:57,240 --> 02:02:57,680
Speaker 1: Is it Nico?

2683
02:02:57,840 --> 02:02:59,840
Speaker 7: It's Nico three hundred and sixty yards rushing.

2684
02:02:59,880 --> 02:03:01,320
Speaker 1: So so it's not a great thing.

2685
02:03:01,760 --> 02:03:03,840
Speaker 2: Well, his injury would matter a whole whole lot then

2686
02:03:03,960 --> 02:03:06,120
Speaker 2: for that game. So definitely something to keep an eye on.

2687
02:03:06,440 --> 02:03:09,120
Speaker 2: And I get UCLA has played better, but again, fully

2688
02:03:09,160 --> 02:03:11,560
Speaker 2: expect any anna take care of business, is Fernando.

2689
02:03:11,600 --> 02:03:13,200
Speaker 5: I don't, by the way, doesn't look like it happens

2690
02:03:13,280 --> 02:03:14,560
Speaker 5: until before the Perdue game.

2691
02:03:15,360 --> 02:03:16,240
Speaker 8: That has been weird.

2692
02:03:16,400 --> 02:03:20,440
Speaker 5: Wisconsin at Indiana November fifteenth, then a gap between before

2693
02:03:20,480 --> 02:03:22,880
Speaker 5: Indiana Purdue on November twenty I week in the second

2694
02:03:22,920 --> 02:03:23,960
Speaker 5: to last week of the season.

2695
02:03:24,760 --> 02:03:25,560
Speaker 1: Would you prefer that?

2696
02:03:26,200 --> 02:03:26,240
Speaker 8: No?

2697
02:03:27,360 --> 02:03:28,440
Speaker 5: I like it right in the middle.

2698
02:03:29,440 --> 02:03:31,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think like the Colts had there by coming

2699
02:03:31,640 --> 02:03:32,680
Speaker 2: up in a few weeks like that's one of the

2700
02:03:32,720 --> 02:03:34,600
Speaker 2: better I remember the Colts had like the late the

2701
02:03:34,720 --> 02:03:36,720
Speaker 2: latest by the NFL like a couple of times in

2702
02:03:36,760 --> 02:03:37,360
Speaker 2: December there.

2703
02:03:37,520 --> 02:03:38,800
Speaker 7: Let me throw this one at you though, I think

2704
02:03:38,840 --> 02:03:41,720
Speaker 7: that's awful. Don't you like having that right before Purdue

2705
02:03:42,440 --> 02:03:44,400
Speaker 7: and then you're gonna have a conference championship game and

2706
02:03:44,440 --> 02:03:46,000
Speaker 7: then you want to have a couple of weeks run

2707
02:03:46,280 --> 02:03:50,080
Speaker 7: in in the uh the playoff there. Maybe maybe it

2708
02:03:50,160 --> 02:03:52,520
Speaker 7: does come at a good time as you really get

2709
02:03:52,600 --> 02:03:56,120
Speaker 7: ready for important games after that Purdue game.

2710
02:03:56,720 --> 02:03:58,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I'm probably more of a mid season But

2711
02:03:59,000 --> 02:03:59,360
Speaker 2: I don't know.

2712
02:04:00,840 --> 02:04:03,680
Speaker 1: Is Fernanda Minoza the Heisman front runner right now?

2713
02:04:05,080 --> 02:04:08,280
Speaker 2: I think, betting wise, he is. I think one thing

2714
02:04:08,360 --> 02:04:11,320
Speaker 2: that will hurt him down the stretch is Indiana won't

2715
02:04:11,520 --> 02:04:16,280
Speaker 2: be in many of these marquee time slots, and I

2716
02:04:16,360 --> 02:04:18,640
Speaker 2: think that matters. I don't agree with it, but I

2717
02:04:18,640 --> 02:04:18,880
Speaker 2: think it.

2718
02:04:19,200 --> 02:04:21,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, it'sertainly a factor, which can't be like sitting here like,

2719
02:04:21,400 --> 02:04:23,240
Speaker 1: oh it's not Yeah, we're human.

2720
02:04:23,320 --> 02:04:24,640
Speaker 2: Where did Indiana play last week?

2721
02:04:25,320 --> 02:04:25,800
Speaker 1: Peacock?

2722
02:04:26,320 --> 02:04:26,480
Speaker 8: You know?

2723
02:04:26,720 --> 02:04:28,440
Speaker 2: I mean yeah, now Saturday they're going to be at

2724
02:04:28,480 --> 02:04:31,600
Speaker 2: noon on Fox, which will help. But you know, Penn State,

2725
02:04:32,200 --> 02:04:34,480
Speaker 2: that game has lost its luster, you know, coming up

2726
02:04:34,680 --> 02:04:37,040
Speaker 2: in November there, So you know, you look at where

2727
02:04:37,120 --> 02:04:41,600
Speaker 2: game Day's going, you know, Diego Pavia and Vanderbilt this weekend.

2728
02:04:41,720 --> 02:04:43,480
Speaker 2: I mean, you know he's up there right now. He's

2729
02:04:43,520 --> 02:04:45,080
Speaker 2: got a little bit more of the flair to his

2730
02:04:46,880 --> 02:04:50,720
Speaker 2: But again, that stuff, unfortunately matters. There's bias in all

2731
02:04:50,800 --> 02:04:53,080
Speaker 2: these awards. Let's be honest. You know, we got in

2732
02:04:53,120 --> 02:04:56,480
Speaker 2: the debate yesterday, James, what does MVP mean? Doesn't mean

2733
02:04:56,520 --> 02:04:58,120
Speaker 2: most valuable player, doesn't mean best player.

2734
02:04:59,320 --> 02:05:00,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, for the call, I would say their best player

2735
02:05:01,000 --> 02:05:03,120
Speaker 1: is JT, but their most value player is Daniel Jones.

2736
02:05:03,040 --> 02:05:04,160
Speaker 5: Right, I would agree with that.

2737
02:05:04,280 --> 02:05:06,640
Speaker 7: It's interesting. I was reading a bunch of articles yesterday

2738
02:05:06,640 --> 02:05:09,480
Speaker 7: about what makes a running back of the MVP when

2739
02:05:09,800 --> 02:05:12,560
Speaker 7: that does happen, and it's usually going to be somebody

2740
02:05:12,600 --> 02:05:16,160
Speaker 7: right around two thousand yards and over twenty touchdowns on

2741
02:05:16,280 --> 02:05:18,920
Speaker 7: a team that does very, very well. So JT's in

2742
02:05:19,000 --> 02:05:21,360
Speaker 7: the mix, Like if he keeps on this base right now,

2743
02:05:22,080 --> 02:05:22,800
Speaker 7: there's a chance.

2744
02:05:25,240 --> 02:05:26,960
Speaker 1: This is so wild that we're talking about the Colts

2745
02:05:27,000 --> 02:05:30,640
Speaker 1: having two MVP candidates. I would have never guessed this

2746
02:05:31,280 --> 02:05:33,440
Speaker 1: even if they had somehow been this record. If you

2747
02:05:33,520 --> 02:05:35,440
Speaker 1: told me they would be seven and one or six

2748
02:05:35,520 --> 02:05:37,400
Speaker 1: and one at this point in the year, at the

2749
02:05:37,400 --> 02:05:40,240
Speaker 1: start of the year, I would have thought, oh, they

2750
02:05:40,520 --> 02:05:43,120
Speaker 1: game managed, and they won a couple of games they

2751
02:05:43,120 --> 02:05:46,120
Speaker 1: weren't supposed to and got lucky here or there. But

2752
02:05:46,400 --> 02:05:49,520
Speaker 1: this isn't. Look they're putting the belt to folkses behind

2753
02:05:49,800 --> 02:05:53,280
Speaker 1: throughout this season so far, and I think the latest

2754
02:05:53,360 --> 02:05:56,320
Speaker 1: game was probably their best or most biggest statement game.

2755
02:05:56,640 --> 02:05:57,880
Speaker 1: And where do you go from here? And I think,

2756
02:05:57,920 --> 02:06:00,840
Speaker 1: again I was teetering on tool youb all in. I

2757
02:06:00,920 --> 02:06:02,800
Speaker 1: think at this point I'm bought in. You should make

2758
02:06:02,840 --> 02:06:04,680
Speaker 1: a move before the deadline and go get some type

2759
02:06:04,680 --> 02:06:05,600
Speaker 1: of defensive playmaker.

2760
02:06:05,720 --> 02:06:07,680
Speaker 2: And the awards don't stop there. I mean Rookie of

2761
02:06:07,680 --> 02:06:09,840
Speaker 2: the Year offensively, I think Tyler Warren's got to be

2762
02:06:09,880 --> 02:06:12,240
Speaker 2: the favorite. We'll see if he's an All Pro right now,

2763
02:06:12,520 --> 02:06:15,640
Speaker 2: first team And again they'll be biased towards Jackson Dart

2764
02:06:15,680 --> 02:06:17,200
Speaker 2: if the Giants all of a sudden get it together

2765
02:06:17,320 --> 02:06:22,480
Speaker 2: somehow and then Coache a little bit of height there.

2766
02:06:22,600 --> 02:06:23,280
Speaker 5: But I don't know.

2767
02:06:24,040 --> 02:06:26,000
Speaker 1: Again, it's a quarterback running back thing, like who are

2768
02:06:26,000 --> 02:06:26,640
Speaker 1: you gonna lean towards.

2769
02:06:26,680 --> 02:06:28,560
Speaker 2: I tend to think it's quarterback that worries me more

2770
02:06:28,680 --> 02:06:30,680
Speaker 2: Mark and then definitely coach of the year's gotta be

2771
02:06:30,680 --> 02:06:32,640
Speaker 2: Shane Steiking so far.

2772
02:06:32,920 --> 02:06:33,160
Speaker 10: That's me.

2773
02:06:33,200 --> 02:06:36,120
Speaker 2: He's probably the most obvious of all the awards. Something

2774
02:06:36,160 --> 02:06:38,960
Speaker 2: out there like Colts related that one. I mean that

2775
02:06:39,040 --> 02:06:41,240
Speaker 2: dude was on a top five list of being the

2776
02:06:41,280 --> 02:06:42,480
Speaker 2: first coach fired.

2777
02:06:42,560 --> 02:06:44,400
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what. And he has been on fire

2778
02:06:44,440 --> 02:06:46,600
Speaker 1: when it comes to the play calling. The way he's

2779
02:06:46,600 --> 02:06:50,360
Speaker 1: able to scheme guys open is unbelievable. I mean, it's

2780
02:06:50,440 --> 02:06:53,840
Speaker 1: almost like watching a college game sometimes, because that's usually

2781
02:06:54,080 --> 02:06:55,680
Speaker 1: what players will tell you. There's a difference between the

2782
02:06:55,720 --> 02:06:59,120
Speaker 1: NFL Open and college Open. He gets his NFL guys

2783
02:06:59,320 --> 02:07:01,120
Speaker 1: college open some of these plays. And I get that

2784
02:07:01,200 --> 02:07:04,360
Speaker 1: Daniel Jones made a couple of great window tight window

2785
02:07:04,440 --> 02:07:06,800
Speaker 1: throws throughout the year, But most of the time, man,

2786
02:07:06,840 --> 02:07:08,680
Speaker 1: he is thrown to some guys who have plenty of

2787
02:07:08,800 --> 02:07:10,880
Speaker 1: room to you know, make the catch and then make

2788
02:07:10,920 --> 02:07:11,840
Speaker 1: some yards after the catch.

2789
02:07:11,920 --> 02:07:14,520
Speaker 5: Shane Steigen's the overwhelming favorites win Coach of the Year,

2790
02:07:14,960 --> 02:07:17,960
Speaker 5: Tyler Warner's third best odds for Offensive Rookie of the Year,

2791
02:07:18,680 --> 02:07:21,760
Speaker 5: Daniel Jones has eighth best odds to win MVP, and

2792
02:07:22,720 --> 02:07:25,600
Speaker 5: Jonathan Taylor's far and away the overwhelming Offensive Player of

2793
02:07:25,640 --> 02:07:28,920
Speaker 5: the year canon that is. That's cool, baby, it's crazy.

2794
02:07:29,360 --> 02:07:31,480
Speaker 1: We're in the twilight zone. Baby, I like it.

2795
02:07:31,560 --> 02:07:33,560
Speaker 7: You look at the AFC South right now, two game

2796
02:07:33,680 --> 02:07:36,760
Speaker 7: lead over Jacksonville. Texans are just two and four after

2797
02:07:36,840 --> 02:07:39,280
Speaker 7: the loss last night, and Titans we've talked about they

2798
02:07:39,320 --> 02:07:42,320
Speaker 7: playing this week, are just one and six. I mean,

2799
02:07:43,280 --> 02:07:46,280
Speaker 7: Jacksonville has not looked all that great. You can see

2800
02:07:46,320 --> 02:07:47,920
Speaker 7: in the next month or here you can see the

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Speaker 7: Colts having like a three, three game lead to play

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Speaker 7: with here Kevin pretty soon.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think the AFC South will eventually get to

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02:07:54,840 --> 02:07:57,160
Speaker 2: the point where I'll be uttering the phrase God Bless

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02:07:57,280 --> 02:07:59,240
Speaker 2: the AFC South like I do quite often. It's the

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02:07:59,320 --> 02:08:01,720
Speaker 2: division that usually keeps on giving. I thought Jacksonville start

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02:08:01,760 --> 02:08:03,560
Speaker 2: with fluky. I thought they were just forcing a bunch

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02:08:03,560 --> 02:08:05,800
Speaker 2: of turnovers, and if you look at it, I believe

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Speaker 2: the last two weeks they forced zero and the records

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Speaker 2: going too and they forced a million those first four games.

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02:08:11,720 --> 02:08:13,760
Speaker 2: So yeah, that's something to get into a little bit

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Speaker 2: more about the Colts. Nick Crosscover Stewart, those interceptions, you

2813
02:08:17,720 --> 02:08:19,480
Speaker 2: can't bank on those every week. Your defense has got

2814
02:08:19,560 --> 02:08:22,440
Speaker 2: to start naturally getting off the field a little bit more.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, Nick Cross has been my most pleasant surprise on

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02:08:24,880 --> 02:08:26,080
Speaker 7: defense so far this year.

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Speaker 1: I just in a contract year for him, He's just

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Speaker 1: been solid. Yeah, he's been really good.

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Speaker 2: They continued to growth throughout his career, a really nice

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02:08:33,520 --> 02:08:35,240
Speaker 2: four year growth, which again he was one of the

2821
02:08:35,320 --> 02:08:37,360
Speaker 2: younger players to be drafted in his draft.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, and you know, we talk about whether or not

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02:08:39,960 --> 02:08:42,320
Speaker 7: Chris Ballard wants to make a move and sure up

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02:08:42,400 --> 02:08:45,040
Speaker 7: that defense. Certainly, I agree with you, Kevin defensive line.

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Speaker 7: I don't know, But are they just counting on getting

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Speaker 7: healthy as the year goes along, to getting a bunch

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Speaker 7: of guys back as much as anything?

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Speaker 1: Who's hurt?

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02:08:52,640 --> 02:08:55,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean until Sunday, nobody was hurt?

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Speaker 7: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Or I mean D line room, Oh D right, I

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Speaker 2: mean D line wise, who was before Sunday? Yeah, I

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Speaker 2: mean corner, Yes, I can point to that, but really,

2834
02:09:04,880 --> 02:09:07,160
Speaker 2: there's no other injuries on defense besides corner.

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Speaker 1: Now, corner, there's a ton.

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Speaker 7: But so I met you're thinking, you get your corners

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Speaker 7: back and you'll be much better.

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Speaker 10: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: I'm more of a yeah, definitely more of a pass rush.

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Speaker 1: Saying less Jervarius Wars lining up on defensive end make

2841
02:09:18,680 --> 02:09:21,000
Speaker 1: the move. When he gets back, we'll put Josh Downs

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Speaker 1: back on there again.

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02:09:22,200 --> 02:09:22,760
Speaker 5: Mark, see if.

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02:09:22,720 --> 02:09:24,440
Speaker 1: Tyler Warren can be an edge rusher? Was that one

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Speaker 1: of our hearts?

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Speaker 10: You can do everything.

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Speaker 7: I wouldn't be surprised if you had a two sec game.

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Speaker 1: Would you recruited as an athlete to Penn State? Yeah,

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02:09:32,120 --> 02:09:33,920
Speaker 1: that's so cool. I want to be an athlete one day.

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Speaker 7: Wouldn't you love to see Penn State get it all

2851
02:09:36,040 --> 02:09:38,600
Speaker 7: together and just upset Ohio State this week? Think about that.

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Speaker 7: We'll be back tomorrow. Scott Dolson from Indiana Athletics joints

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02:09:42,440 --> 02:09:43,880
Speaker 7: us enjoy the rest of your day on ninety three

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Speaker 7: to five and one oh seven