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Speaker 1: Line from ball Hartbeiner and the Crossroads of America. It's

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Speaker 1: Tony Katz today.

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Speaker 2: I have got the Secretary of State in France. He

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Speaker 2: is at the g seventh Summit, the seven most developed economies,

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Speaker 2: just getting together, having themselves some lunch and talking about

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Speaker 2: how to engage world domination. All right, I don't think

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Speaker 2: that happens. But the lunch part I'm pretty sure about.

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Speaker 2: Tony Katz. Tony Katz today, guys, good to be with you,

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Speaker 2: Good to be here. Find everything at Tony kats dot com.

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Speaker 2: Then the President is gonna be at the White House.

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Speaker 2: Is it National Agriculture Day? Is that the official name

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Speaker 2: of the day. And there's gonna be a conversations with farmers,

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Speaker 2: but you know this is gonna be a conversation about

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Speaker 2: Iran and a ten day pause, now that's right, an

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Speaker 2: additional ten day pause. And then of course his executive

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Speaker 2: order saying we're gonna pay the TSA agents.

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Speaker 3: Can you do that?

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Speaker 2: The executive order direct the Secretary of Homeland Security.

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Speaker 3: To pay the TSA agents.

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Speaker 2: And then the next thing, you know, here come Democrats

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Speaker 2: and Republicans will say, you know what, we'll fund the DHS,

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Speaker 2: not the whole of DHS. We won't fund ICE and

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Speaker 2: border patrol, but ICE is funded to the one big

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Speaker 2: beautiful bill.

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Speaker 3: So what really is the loss here?

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Speaker 2: Democrats didn't get any of their reforms, yet somehow I've

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Speaker 2: got media painting this, phrasing this positioning this that it

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Speaker 2: was a huge win for the Democrats.

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Speaker 3: No one is surprised the press would do this. Huh.

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Speaker 2: Shocking, shocking indeed. So there is a lot to get into.

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Speaker 2: And when Secretary Rubio starts, I'm going to bring it

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Speaker 2: to him. When President Trump starts, I'm gonna bring it

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Speaker 2: to him. But this whole idea of winning and losing,

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Speaker 2: we can break this down a couple different ways, but

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Speaker 2: let's start where we start. If the arguments after not

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Speaker 2: paying Americans for forty one days for doing a job,

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Speaker 2: If the argument after disrupting the lives of Americans, whether

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Speaker 2: whether they be those who work for airlines, gate staff,

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Speaker 2: or flight attendants or pilots, after all of this and

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Speaker 2: all the disruptions people had, and the issues with hospitality

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Speaker 2: and hotels and restaurant reservations missed and family events missed, and.

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Speaker 3: If after all of that.

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Speaker 2: The big question is who won, Republicans or Democrats.

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Speaker 3: We suck. It's nonsense.

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Speaker 2: This is the argument Chuck Schumer putting out a statement,

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Speaker 2: I'm so proud of my caucus. We held the line,

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Speaker 2: what line find that we support as Democrats illegal immigrants

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Speaker 2: staying in the country and being opposed to ICE being

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Speaker 2: able to operate at all. And if we had our way,

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Speaker 2: we told get rid of ICE all together. We wouldn't

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Speaker 2: support a soul because we want those voters. Was that

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Speaker 2: the wind, chuck? I mean, admittedly you could argue that

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Speaker 2: this is more of a wind than the way you

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Speaker 2: make cheeseburgers. But is that the wind, chuck? Because that's

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Speaker 2: the basis every single part of what you saw of

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Speaker 2: forty one days. And by the way, the House has

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Speaker 2: got to vote and pass what it is that the

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Speaker 2: Senate passed. Every part of this was not about Americans' lives,

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Speaker 2: American's future, American safety, the American economy.

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Speaker 3: It was about allowing people.

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Speaker 2: Who are here illegally to have the opportunity to engage

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Speaker 3: Every last bit of it.

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Speaker 2: Oh, call me any name you want. Eight three three

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Speaker 2: NINE i am happy to debate. It WHEN i say,

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Speaker 2: DEBATED i mean laugh at any commentary that says, otherwise.

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Speaker 3: Because there is no.

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Speaker 2: Debate AND i put forth to you THAT i think

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Speaker 3: Hosts maybe not all of, them but enough of.

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Speaker 2: THEM i see a lot of people discussing How republicans

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Speaker 2: are going to get slaughtered in the, midterms destroyed in

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Speaker 2: maybe standard thought would absolutely bring you. There the party

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Speaker 2: in power is going to. LOSE i don't think that

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Speaker 2: Shutdown When democrats started pushing the, idea, well we'll.

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Speaker 3: Just fund THE.

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Speaker 2: Tsa, here here's a, bill we'll fund THE. Tsa come,

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Speaker 2: YOU i, said, Well republicans are gonna lose this. Battle

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Speaker 3: Have been jumping on this much.

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Speaker 2: Earlier they could have taken advantage of. It they didn't

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Speaker 2: of doing those. Things whatever it, Is and here come

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Speaker 2: The democrats with this. Plan, well all, Right democrats are

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Speaker 2: gonna steal their. Thunder they're gonna steal the whole. Story

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Speaker 2: and that's. It that was two weeks. Ago they didn't steal.

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Speaker 2: Anything they didn't steal anything at. All it didn't. Work

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Speaker 2: it didn't capture the attention of The american. People there

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Speaker 2: was no drum beat about this from The american. Press

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Speaker 2: the only Thing i've been able to come to about

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Speaker 2: the why is the same THING i come to Regarding

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Speaker 2: republicans And democrats wanting to figure out who won this?

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Speaker 2: Fight who Cares americans lost this, fight and they're pot about.

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Speaker 3: IT i think that is. CORRECT i think that's.

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Speaker 2: Accurate and if it, is because you could argue that

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Speaker 2: this is naivete on my. Part you could argue That

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Speaker 2: i'm just being hopeful and really, cute WHICH i. AM i,

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Speaker 2: mean look at this. Face damn. POSSIBLE i don't deny

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Speaker 2: that it's. Possible but AM i? Wrong democrats went down this,

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Speaker 2: road a road that should work for, them and it

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Speaker 3: Them why?

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Speaker 2: Not the media should have been all over, this just

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Speaker 2: Iran these people are completely capable of doing two things at.

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Speaker 2: Once why? Not and the only THING i can come

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Speaker 2: to is that it didn't. Connect if it didn't, connect

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Speaker 2: they spent forty one days not PAYING. Tsa because whatever

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Speaker 2: want privatize. SECURITY i don't think they do a good

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Speaker 2: The ones who have to be, retrained and we have

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Speaker 2: to rethink the entire. Process but it's a job and

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Speaker 2: they get paid for. It and now they're not getting.

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Speaker 2: Paid it's what do we expect from. Them it would

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Speaker 3: Days are you doing?

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Speaker 2: That And democrats did it. Joyfully we're not paying them

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Speaker 2: all for the sake of illegal. Immigrants and that's the

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Speaker 2: narrative that is. Held and What i'm saying to you.

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Speaker 3: Is that the TRUE i Think i've got it.

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Speaker 2: Right the winners and losers conversation is what makes us

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Speaker 3: Won is? That what this is? About you having someone

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Speaker 2: Duke and now you Handed John thune a dollar because

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Speaker 2: he won or he handed you. One people's lives are

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Speaker 2: That democrats said we could FUND tsa just by, itself.

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Speaker 2: No, NO i meant the food and not not the. Earbuds. Sorry,

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Speaker 2: Own Tony katz and this Is Tony katz. Today now

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Speaker 2: this brings us to the ten day pause and how.

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Speaker 2: It Tony, Katz Tony katz, Today, guys an absolute pleasure

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Speaker 2: to be with, you to be hanging out and doing this.

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Speaker 3: Things this is more. Fun President trump, saying you know, what.

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Speaker 2: We will extend the pause for taking out energy sites

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Speaker 2: for another ten. Days first it, was, Hey, iran get

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Speaker 2: gonna be basically the Late Bill. Hicks, hey what DOES

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Speaker 2: routine from the Legendary Bill.

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Speaker 3: Hicks and so it was a two day.

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Speaker 2: Thing and before the forty eight hour hours was, up

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Speaker 2: came a statement From President. Trump we're. Talking there are

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Speaker 2: good things. Happening we're starting to work something out. Here

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Speaker 2: so let's extend this another five. Days and the five

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Speaker 3: Today but then The president.

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Speaker 2: Last night said things are going so, well we'll extend

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Speaker 3: This it's okay that we don't know. Yet it's okay

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Speaker 2: Today so we'll get more into what's going on With

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Speaker 2: Care there Are Chinese americans all Across america who are

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Speaker 7: Threat in the, world as The department Of war has consistently,

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Speaker 7: And an understanding of what lies ahead over the next few.

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Speaker 2: Weeks, now the question, is As President trump really like

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Speaker 2: ripped into TO nato about not being of, help which

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Speaker 2: you know we talked about it. Here you can't have

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Speaker 2: started this fight Against iran and then expected These european

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Speaker 2: nations to come join.

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Speaker 3: You they don't want to be seen as like.

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Speaker 2: Stragglers As johnny cum lately is is just following the

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Speaker 2: leader being told what to. Do they have their strength

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Speaker 2: that they have to exhibit to their own, people, right

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Speaker 2: and let's not deny that it's pretty important. Stuff then

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Speaker 2: when THE uk had an opportunity to lead with The

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Speaker 2: British Royal navy to strengthen and free up the straight

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Speaker 2: up our, moves well that was an opportunity to. Lead

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Speaker 2: so you've got to give people that it's very very

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Speaker 2: important important, indeed but the idea That european, nations where

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Speaker 2: they get their oil to The, strait they need to

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Speaker 2: be more.

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Speaker 3: Participatory he's correct about that.

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Speaker 9: Okay for questions now being, asked how.

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Speaker 8: Seriously is The United states considering deploying ground Troops and

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Speaker 8: in those couple of, weeks will you what exactly are.

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Speaker 7: WE i won't discuss military.

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Speaker 8: TACTICS i don't think anyone in our system is going

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Speaker 8: to talk to you about what we have planned or

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Speaker 8: what we intend to do and those.

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Speaker 7: Obvious reasons for.

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Speaker 8: It but to the extent it has to do with

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Speaker 8: like military tactics and, PLANS i would refer to The

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Speaker 8: department Of, war and The Department.

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Speaker 7: War is probably going to tell.

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Speaker 8: You they can't tell you anything so other than to

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Speaker 8: say that we have.

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Speaker 7: OBJECTIVES i told you what those objectives, are.

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Speaker 8: And we are very confident that we are on the

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Speaker 8: verge of achieving them very very. Soon have THE d.

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Speaker 5: Seven or upset or off foot at all by the

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Speaker 5: programs from?

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Speaker 4: Them?

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Speaker 9: So and is there never got way in front of?

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Speaker 8: Me maybe they say that to you, guys and maybe

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Speaker 8: they say that in other interviews or when they go

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Speaker 8: in the, press but not in front of.

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Speaker 3: Me they. DON'T i never get.

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Speaker 7: That on the, contrary these.

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Speaker 8: Meetings are oftentimes about Thanking america for the role we've

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Speaker 8: played and trying to bring peace In, sudan the recognition

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Speaker 8: that The president played a key role in ending.

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Speaker 7: What was happening In.

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Speaker 8: Gaza recognition of the role we played in Stabilizing. Syria,

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Speaker 8: recognition despite what they may have said in the, press

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Speaker 8: that what we did In venezuela was good for the

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Speaker 8: world and good for our region in The Western. Hemisphere

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Speaker 8: a recognition of the role we played in setting, up

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Speaker 8: along with others Like, canada the gang.

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Speaker 7: Suppression force In.

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Speaker 8: Haiti and appreciation for the mediating role we've tried.

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Speaker 9: To play in this war.

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Speaker 3: Between russia And.

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Speaker 7: Ukraine SO i don't.

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Speaker 8: KNOW i, mean you guys ask me these, questions like

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Speaker 8: IF i go into these meetings and these people are,

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Speaker 8: angry no one they're screens or raises their, voices is anything?

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Speaker 9: Negative and if they, DID i would remind, them BUT

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Speaker 9: i don't need, too BUT.

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Speaker 8: I would remind them of the Role america's played over

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Speaker 8: the last year has been a very productive role and

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Speaker 8: very helpful to.

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Speaker 9: Them AND i would just say, this AND i said this,

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Speaker 9: Yesterday i'll say it again. Now iran Is, god not

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Speaker 9: The iranian. People The uranian people are phenomenal.

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Speaker 8: People they deserve way better than what they, have which

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Speaker 8: is a radical seah clerical regime that has basically taken

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Speaker 8: that country's wealth and used it not to build the

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Speaker 8: roads and, bridges not to build healthcare systems or, universities

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Speaker 8: not to.

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Speaker 7: Build a better and more prosperous.

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Speaker 8: Country they've used the wealth of that country to sponsor,

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Speaker 8: terrorism build, rockets build, drones build, missiles build sea, minds

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Speaker 8: that's what they've done with, it and try to kill

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Speaker 8: people all over the. World and this has to be dealt.

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Speaker 8: With that country was a threat for forty seven. Years,

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Speaker 8: okay that regime has been trying to kill and has

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Speaker 8: been Killing americans all.

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Speaker 7: Over the world for forty seven. Years we have a

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Speaker 7: president that will.

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Speaker 9: Not allow that to continue.

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Speaker 8: Unfettered so when we are, Done iran's already. Weak when

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Speaker 8: we are done with them here the next couple of,

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Speaker 8: weeks they will be weaker than they've been in recent,

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Speaker 8: history and they will not be able to hide behind

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Speaker 8: those weapons to break out and get a nuclear, weapon.

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Speaker 3: Which would be.

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Speaker 9: Crazy for these people to ever get nuclear weapons would be.

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Speaker 7: Crazy look what.

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Speaker 8: They're willing to do with the weapons they have, Now

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Speaker 8: they hit, embassy they Target, hotel if they try to kill.

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Speaker 9: Pavilions they splash out at all their.

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Speaker 8: Neighbors imagine these radical lunatics had a nuclear weapon the

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Speaker 8: threat in The World.

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Speaker 3: War and then of course they murder their own.

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Speaker 2: People so you've Got Marco rubio answering the questions they're

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Speaker 2: about the meeting with THE g, seven which you know

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Speaker 2: the press, saying are you feeling a lot of? Pressure

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Speaker 2: haven't we learned this? Already it's like the Whole greenland. Debate,

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Speaker 2: publicly they're all up in. Arms you can't Take. Greenland

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Speaker 2: we're gonna stop you from doing. This we're gonna have

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Speaker 2: a talk with you. Privately Oh. God they pray quietly

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Speaker 2: to themselves in the dark corners that The United states

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Speaker 2: gets some control Of greenland so they can Have Operation Golden,

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Speaker 2: dome OR i should just say The Golden dome working

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Speaker 2: on their behalf to protect them from The russians and The.

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Speaker 2: Chinese regarding, hypersonics they already Know iran can throw a

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Speaker 2: missile twenty five hundred miles and hit.

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Speaker 3: Them what kind of thing is? This of course they

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Speaker 3: want the wants to have some control Of.

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Speaker 2: Greenland they may not say it out, loud but they

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Speaker 2: say it in, private, right they know what's in their best.

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Speaker 3: Interest, no they're not screaming and.

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Speaker 2: Yelling and as we have seen from from the, region

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Speaker 2: The Arab states want To ran. Gone me why DO

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Speaker 2: i want To ran? GONE i want the regime gone

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Speaker 2: so there's no more terrorist. Threat AND i would like

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Speaker 2: to have five minutes of not talking about The Middle?

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Speaker 2: East boy can? Dream can? He, Meanwhile President trump has

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Speaker 2: started speaking there at The White. House he's got a

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Speaker 2: bunch of farmers in. Town i'm gonna bring that to

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Speaker 2: you in. Full So i'm just gonna hit a little

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Speaker 2: pause on, that AND i will bring that to you

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Speaker 2: in the next, hour because you know he's going to

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Speaker 2: bring up A department Of Homeland.

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Speaker 3: Security you know he's going to bring up of the.

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Speaker 2: War AND i assume he's going to say the price of?

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Speaker 2: Beef what's with? That i'm assuming that's what's going to come.

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Speaker 2: Up SO i will bring that all to. You we'll

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Speaker 2: take the quick. Break I'm Tony, katz and this Is

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Speaker 2: Tony katz. Today let me finish up with some questions

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Speaker 2: that are being sent to.

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Speaker 3: The Secretary Marco. Rubio Tony, Katz Tony.

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Speaker 2: Katz, today And i'm staring incredulously at this tweet From

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Speaker 2: Kate santalies or is It. Sentales she's With, Axios and

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Speaker 2: what she wrote is That House Speaker Mike johnson.

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Speaker 3: Has met with The Freedom caucus in The.

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Speaker 2: House remember what The senate passed to Fund department Of Homeland.

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Speaker 3: Security GET tsa agents paid.

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Speaker 2: First we should be clear that doesn't happen If President

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Speaker 2: trump doesn't, say here's an executive, Order, Hey Homeland security

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Speaker 2: pay THE tsa, agents WHICH i have no idea if

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Speaker 2: you can even do, that, Right congress has the power

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Speaker 2: of the. Purse how do you write an executive order

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Speaker 2: to get people? PAID i don't know either here nor.

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Speaker 2: There The president was making, action AND i caused The

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Speaker 2: democrats to engage a, reaction which was to, Say, okay

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Speaker 2: we'll pass this. Version that's my. Take so what she

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Speaker 2: is reporting is That Mike johnson agreed with The Freedom

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Speaker 2: caucus to instead of putting The senate passed bill on the,

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Speaker 2: floor put on a sixty day continuing resolution that funds

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Speaker 2: all The department Of Homeland, security INCLUDING ice And Border.

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Speaker 2: Patrol there is no way that's. Happening there's no way that's. Happening,

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Speaker 2: first if it's. Happening it has to Have trump's approval

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Speaker 2: that he wants to extend this, out and he thinks

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Speaker 2: he can GET tsa agents. Paid that has to be

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Speaker 2: a fundamental to. This you can still GET tsa agents,

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Speaker 2: paid and you can pass a cr to fund everything

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Speaker 2: while you all take time to work it, out putting

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Speaker 2: pressure back on The, democrats but not putting people's lives

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Speaker 2: and livelihoods at. Risk that is a political. Win BUT

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Speaker 2: i can't Imagine trump wants to do, that especially when

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Speaker 2: you can pass anything regarding border patrol funding via reconciliation

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Speaker 2: and not need Any.

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Speaker 3: Democrats so we are not.

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Speaker 2: Done we are not done with this. Fight, Meanwhile President,

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Speaker 2: trump he's in front of a whole.

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Speaker 3: Bunch of farmers doing.

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Speaker 2: Well there's a lot of cowboy, hats farmers and ranchers

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Speaker 2: and The.

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Speaker 3: President speaking to. THEM i will bring that to you

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Speaker 3: coming up in a little.

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Speaker 2: Bit keep it. Here I'm Tony. Katz this Is Tony

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Speaker 2: Katz today.

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Speaker 1: Live from Vall hartbeiner and The crossroads Of. America It's

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Speaker 1: Tony katz.

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Speaker 10: Today President trump is speaking to the.

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Speaker 3: FARMERS i think It's National Agriculture.

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Speaker 2: Today Tony, Katz Tony kats, today, GUYS a pleasure as.

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Speaker 3: Always to be with. You he's he's up, there he's

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Speaker 3: like on the.

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Speaker 2: Balcony there are hundreds and hundreds of people, there a

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Speaker 2: producial and of you're, right it looks like all the

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Speaker 2: extras In yellowstone and The president is.

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Speaker 6: Speaking But i'm thrilled to welcome all of you to

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Speaker 6: The South lawn for the single largest gathering Of american

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Speaker 6: farmers that The White house has ever, seen has ever.

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Speaker 3: Had and raider, shine and you don't mind rain.

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Speaker 6: Shine and one thing about, farmers they don't care about.

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Speaker 6: That whether they get out, there it makes no.

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Speaker 3: Difference but.

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Speaker 6: Raidershine no one is more, greater greater spirit than The american.

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Speaker 3: Farmer we love The american. FARMER i just gave you

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Speaker 3: twelve billion.

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Speaker 4: DOLLARS i don't know if you know that or.

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Speaker 6: Not you make enough, money it doesn't matter to, you,

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Speaker 6: right but we just provided twelve, billion, right brut for

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Speaker 6: The american.

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Speaker 3: Farmer you Think biden would have done.

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Speaker 6: That we're delighted to be joined By secretary Of agriculture's

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Speaker 6: doing a fantastic, Job Brook Rollins, Brooke thank, You.

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Speaker 3: Everymark.

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Speaker 6: Secretary Of health And Human, Services ROBERT. F Kennedy, Junior

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Speaker 6: Robert BOBBY epa administrators doing such an incredible. Job he's

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Speaker 6: getting those costs down for you and he's always protected the,

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Speaker 6: environment but he does it.

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Speaker 3: QUICKLY a real.

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Speaker 4: Superstar League, Zelden thank.

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Speaker 3: You leg.

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Speaker 6: And someone everyone loves and they love in particular the

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Speaker 6: job she's. Doing Small business Administrator Kelly, Loffler, kelly thank

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Speaker 6: you very.

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Speaker 3: MUCH i didn't know everybody left me job what she's. Doing,

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Speaker 3: Sure John Ovin, joniors all, Right.

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Speaker 2: So he's going to go about giving a whole bunch

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Speaker 2: of thanks and appreciation senators that are there and everything.

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00:38:25,080 --> 00:38:28,440
Speaker 2: Else the twelve billion was was. Subsidies remember this was

663
00:38:28,440 --> 00:38:31,200
Speaker 2: money that was going to be tariff. Money funny how

664
00:38:31,200 --> 00:38:34,480
Speaker 2: that subject has fallen off the. Radar does he owe the?

665
00:38:34,520 --> 00:38:36,560
Speaker 3: Money so you have to pay people?

666
00:38:36,560 --> 00:38:39,120
Speaker 2: Back you, know there are lawsuits about, saying, hey we

667
00:38:39,120 --> 00:38:41,719
Speaker 2: were told you not a lot to use certain the IE,

668
00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:46,239
Speaker 2: pa The Economic Powers act to engage, tariff so we

669
00:38:46,239 --> 00:38:47,920
Speaker 2: want our money, back and people are suing in The

670
00:38:47,960 --> 00:38:49,680
Speaker 2: White house is saying we don't know how.

671
00:38:49,520 --> 00:38:49,880
Speaker 3: To pay you.

672
00:38:49,920 --> 00:38:52,279
Speaker 2: Back we don't know how to do. This let the

673
00:38:52,280 --> 00:38:55,160
Speaker 2: court figure it. Out the court decided we couldn't do.

674
00:38:55,200 --> 00:39:01,359
Speaker 2: This let the court figure out how it is that

675
00:39:01,400 --> 00:39:04,239
Speaker 2: we pay you. Back but that's WHERE i think this

676
00:39:04,360 --> 00:39:05,759
Speaker 2: twelve billion dollars came.

677
00:39:05,800 --> 00:39:17,880
Speaker 3: From the ever growing hardship of. Farming.

678
00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:20,440
Speaker 2: Right we talk about this in all sorts of. Ways

679
00:39:20,440 --> 00:39:22,440
Speaker 2: and you, know there's a great, EXPRESSION i never met

680
00:39:22,480 --> 00:39:27,400
Speaker 2: a poor. Farmer but there is work involved, here and

681
00:39:27,440 --> 00:39:31,880
Speaker 2: there are pressures upon, here and there is a regulatory issue, here.

682
00:39:32,600 --> 00:39:38,200
Speaker 3: And not everyone is playing on that elite.

683
00:39:38,280 --> 00:39:43,800
Speaker 2: Level there are plenty of family farms that are suffering

684
00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:48,640
Speaker 2: right through it in every single. Way so it's one

685
00:39:48,680 --> 00:39:50,879
Speaker 2: thing just to have the. Gathering But i'm curious if

686
00:39:50,880 --> 00:39:56,960
Speaker 2: The president is going to get into some of what

687
00:39:57,000 --> 00:39:59,239
Speaker 2: it is they're dealing, with and how do, you for,

688
00:39:59,280 --> 00:40:06,160
Speaker 2: example keep food costs low when you have oil prices

689
00:40:06,200 --> 00:40:06,640
Speaker 2: going so.

690
00:40:06,760 --> 00:40:09,360
Speaker 3: High take it back To President.

691
00:40:09,360 --> 00:40:13,120
Speaker 6: Trump it's a five hundredth store in honor Of america's

692
00:40:13,160 --> 00:40:13,759
Speaker 6: two hundred and.

693
00:40:13,800 --> 00:40:15,160
Speaker 3: Fiftieth Al thank you very.

694
00:40:15,239 --> 00:40:17,919
Speaker 4: Much it was great to meet you at The Oval

695
00:40:17,920 --> 00:40:18,719
Speaker 4: office two minutes.

696
00:40:18,760 --> 00:40:22,040
Speaker 6: AGO i also want to thank The president of The

697
00:40:22,080 --> 00:40:23,280
Speaker 6: American Farm Bureau.

698
00:40:23,400 --> 00:40:26,279
Speaker 3: FEDERATION i thought he had gotten past some of. This

699
00:40:26,960 --> 00:40:31,120
Speaker 3: see that's the trouble with. Live we'll do it Live.

700
00:40:32,200 --> 00:40:37,560
Speaker 6: American agriculture industry with brutal, restrictions and failed to negotiate

701
00:40:37,640 --> 00:40:40,239
Speaker 6: even a single new trade deal on your. Behalf not

702
00:40:40,480 --> 00:40:45,000
Speaker 6: one trade deal was negotiated on your behalf during The biden,

703
00:40:45,080 --> 00:40:50,400
Speaker 6: administration and we happened to be the exact. Opposite we

704
00:40:50,440 --> 00:40:52,120
Speaker 6: have so many trade, deals we don't know what the

705
00:40:52,120 --> 00:40:52,719
Speaker 6: hell to do with.

706
00:40:52,760 --> 00:40:56,960
Speaker 3: Them we need more, lawyers said no one.

707
00:40:56,960 --> 00:41:00,680
Speaker 6: Ever Can, farmers, ranchers, growers and producers once again up

708
00:41:00,680 --> 00:41:02,640
Speaker 6: a true friend and champion in The Oval.

709
00:41:02,680 --> 00:41:04,800
Speaker 4: Office and in my first year.

710
00:41:04,600 --> 00:41:06,880
Speaker 6: Back and The White, house farm income.

711
00:41:06,520 --> 00:41:09,120
Speaker 4: Has soared by twenty percent very.

712
00:41:09,200 --> 00:41:14,000
Speaker 6: QUICKLY i repealed The biden EPA's ridiculous water.

713
00:41:14,080 --> 00:41:17,239
Speaker 4: Restrictions you had water restrictions that gave you everything but.

714
00:41:17,440 --> 00:41:20,040
Speaker 3: Water it needed a little, water.

715
00:41:20,280 --> 00:41:21,080
Speaker 4: They wouldn't give you.

716
00:41:21,120 --> 00:41:24,960
Speaker 6: It it was crazy to keep federal bureaucrats off your

717
00:41:25,040 --> 00:41:26,000
Speaker 6: land and out of your.

718
00:41:26,040 --> 00:41:27,279
Speaker 3: Pockets this big.

719
00:41:27,320 --> 00:41:32,240
Speaker 6: Deal with the help Of republicans In, congress we passed

720
00:41:32,280 --> 00:41:36,319
Speaker 6: the largest tax cuts In american. History, already forty five

721
00:41:36,320 --> 00:41:39,080
Speaker 6: percent of filers have taken advantage of our new tax

722
00:41:39,120 --> 00:41:43,360
Speaker 6: provisions with an average refund so, far almost five thousand,

723
00:41:43,480 --> 00:41:44,640
Speaker 6: dollars a.

724
00:41:44,760 --> 00:41:46,400
Speaker 3: Record in, fact we passed.

725
00:41:46,160 --> 00:41:49,319
Speaker 6: Them and people are just starting to see how important they.

726
00:41:49,360 --> 00:41:52,600
Speaker 3: Are amazing what's. Happened the numbers.

727
00:41:52,600 --> 00:41:55,440
Speaker 6: Are they're reporting that it's much more money THAN i.

728
00:41:55,480 --> 00:41:57,400
Speaker 3: Thought tell, YOU i go.

729
00:41:57,520 --> 00:42:00,720
Speaker 6: It The Great Big Beautiful bill is a, great big beautiful,

730
00:42:00,800 --> 00:42:04,200
Speaker 6: bill and it's especially in terms of via tax refunds

731
00:42:04,800 --> 00:42:06,240
Speaker 6: and your taxes.

732
00:42:06,120 --> 00:42:07,640
Speaker 3: Because it's the lowest tax we.

733
00:42:07,760 --> 00:42:10,719
Speaker 6: Paid it's the biggest tax reduction in the history of our.

734
00:42:10,760 --> 00:42:15,640
Speaker 2: Country has anybody felt it? YET i was asking this

735
00:42:15,760 --> 00:42:20,560
Speaker 2: question on my morning. Show it's supposed to Be remember

736
00:42:20,600 --> 00:42:24,680
Speaker 2: this is What Scott, bessett The Treasury, secretary really started

737
00:42:24,680 --> 00:42:28,480
Speaker 2: digging into In december after listening to the. Show of,

738
00:42:28,520 --> 00:42:31,880
Speaker 2: course you got to let people know what's, happening what

739
00:42:31,920 --> 00:42:33,919
Speaker 2: they can be, expecting what they got to be a part.

740
00:42:33,920 --> 00:42:39,320
Speaker 2: Of it's something that this administration does poorly get people

741
00:42:40,080 --> 00:42:43,759
Speaker 2: into the fight with. You they think they could just

742
00:42:43,840 --> 00:42:44,879
Speaker 2: give a dictating.

743
00:42:44,560 --> 00:42:45,160
Speaker 3: Everybody a fall in.

744
00:42:45,200 --> 00:42:47,279
Speaker 2: Line that's not the way it. Works people have to

745
00:42:47,360 --> 00:42:49,680
Speaker 2: be a part of. It americans want to be a

746
00:42:49,680 --> 00:42:53,200
Speaker 2: part of. It so the One Big Beautiful, bill which

747
00:42:53,280 --> 00:42:53,560
Speaker 2: was so.

748
00:42:53,600 --> 00:42:55,080
Speaker 3: Poorly, messaged.

749
00:42:56,200 --> 00:43:00,239
Speaker 2: It's supposed to lead to larger tax returns refund. Ones

750
00:43:01,040 --> 00:43:04,840
Speaker 2: the question, is has anybody gotten anything, yet and have

751
00:43:04,920 --> 00:43:08,200
Speaker 2: they noticed anything? Larger when you were doing your, taxes

752
00:43:08,239 --> 00:43:09,960
Speaker 2: which are doing less than a.

753
00:43:09,880 --> 00:43:15,480
Speaker 3: Month did you notice that there was more deduction more

754
00:43:15,480 --> 00:43:15,960
Speaker 3: coming your.

755
00:43:16,000 --> 00:43:20,279
Speaker 2: Way i'm just curious if anybody experienced these. Things As

756
00:43:20,320 --> 00:43:23,960
Speaker 2: President trump is saying this to the, farmers it's also

757
00:43:24,160 --> 00:43:26,200
Speaker 2: the biggest regulation.

758
00:43:25,880 --> 00:43:29,120
Speaker 6: Reduction in the history of our, country, which as, farmers

759
00:43:29,120 --> 00:43:29,680
Speaker 6: you know what that.

760
00:43:29,719 --> 00:43:30,879
Speaker 3: Means it means a lot of good.

761
00:43:30,920 --> 00:43:35,280
Speaker 6: Things we made to small business tax deduction permanent benefiting

762
00:43:35,400 --> 00:43:38,800
Speaker 6: ninety eight percent Of america's farmers and. Ranchers and thanks

763
00:43:38,800 --> 00:43:44,160
Speaker 6: to bonus, depreciation farmers can now deduct one hundred percent

764
00:43:44,200 --> 00:43:45,879
Speaker 6: of the cost of new tractors and.

765
00:43:45,960 --> 00:43:47,879
Speaker 3: All equipment in the first.

766
00:43:47,960 --> 00:43:50,040
Speaker 6: Year in other, words you buy a, tractor you deduct

767
00:43:50,040 --> 00:43:50,319
Speaker 6: the whole.

768
00:43:50,360 --> 00:43:53,080
Speaker 4: Price normally it goes over a thirty eight year.

769
00:43:53,160 --> 00:43:54,240
Speaker 3: Period this is slightly.

770
00:43:54,280 --> 00:43:58,920
Speaker 6: Better you got these tiny little deductions that.

771
00:43:58,880 --> 00:44:00,839
Speaker 3: Weren't even worth. It you can do it at one.

772
00:44:00,880 --> 00:44:03,759
Speaker 3: Time Only trump could have gotten you that. One that

773
00:44:03,880 --> 00:44:04,399
Speaker 3: was a big.

774
00:44:04,440 --> 00:44:07,080
Speaker 6: Thing and in the first, term you, know we had

775
00:44:07,120 --> 00:44:09,879
Speaker 6: the greatest personship of the country the first.

776
00:44:09,920 --> 00:44:12,360
Speaker 3: Time we are blowing them away right. Now and by the,

777
00:44:12,360 --> 00:44:14,279
Speaker 3: way we're doing really well In.

778
00:44:14,360 --> 00:44:17,640
Speaker 6: Iran just so you, understand you, KNOW i, mean how

779
00:44:17,640 --> 00:44:24,359
Speaker 6: good is our, Military how good is our? Military very,

780
00:44:24,400 --> 00:44:29,120
Speaker 6: importantly we saved two Million american farms from extinction by

781
00:44:29,200 --> 00:44:31,320
Speaker 6: virtually ending the unfair estate.

782
00:44:31,360 --> 00:44:33,160
Speaker 3: Tax we've ended the estate.

783
00:44:32,880 --> 00:44:35,560
Speaker 6: Tax or as they call, it the death, tax and

784
00:44:35,600 --> 00:44:38,040
Speaker 6: you can now keep your family farms in the. Family

785
00:44:38,760 --> 00:44:39,440
Speaker 6: we had a.

786
00:44:39,480 --> 00:44:43,800
Speaker 3: Problem that is a big. Deal, see these.

787
00:44:43,680 --> 00:44:45,560
Speaker 4: Are all people that are flapping that love their.

788
00:44:45,640 --> 00:44:47,280
Speaker 3: Children if they didn't.

789
00:44:47,080 --> 00:44:49,040
Speaker 4: Love their, children they wouldn't care about WHAT i just.

790
00:44:49,080 --> 00:44:52,759
Speaker 6: Said but most of, you does anybody not love your,

791
00:44:52,840 --> 00:44:56,040
Speaker 6: child because that would be the one person that would

792
00:44:56,080 --> 00:44:58,919
Speaker 6: have flapped the other. Way that was a big. THING

793
00:44:59,200 --> 00:45:03,680
Speaker 6: i would see farmers and they passed. Away they loved their,

794
00:45:03,680 --> 00:45:07,520
Speaker 6: life they loved there's something about a, farmer maybe more

795
00:45:07,520 --> 00:45:08,640
Speaker 6: than anybody, else the.

796
00:45:08,840 --> 00:45:13,359
Speaker 4: Love that they love the, soil and they loved their.

797
00:45:13,400 --> 00:45:16,920
Speaker 6: Farms and they'd pass away that have wonderful, children and

798
00:45:16,960 --> 00:45:20,279
Speaker 6: the children would get hit with this massive tax bill

799
00:45:20,360 --> 00:45:23,239
Speaker 6: for the value of the. Farm sometimes the farm is very,

800
00:45:23,320 --> 00:45:25,800
Speaker 6: valuable but the cash isn't so readily.

801
00:45:25,880 --> 00:45:28,799
Speaker 3: Available and they'd go out to a bank and.

802
00:45:28,760 --> 00:45:31,319
Speaker 6: They'd borrow, money and they'd borrow and borrow and borrow

803
00:45:31,400 --> 00:45:31,799
Speaker 6: to pay the.

804
00:45:31,880 --> 00:45:33,960
Speaker 4: Tax they'd be working for twenty years to pay it.

805
00:45:33,960 --> 00:45:36,960
Speaker 4: Off if they had a bad, season they'd lose their.

806
00:45:37,000 --> 00:45:40,480
Speaker 6: Farm we lockt, it lost it many many, times and

807
00:45:40,520 --> 00:45:43,560
Speaker 6: you'd have actually many many suicides over. It they would

808
00:45:43,600 --> 00:45:47,560
Speaker 6: actually commit suicide because they couldn't stand the concept of

809
00:45:47,680 --> 00:45:48,800
Speaker 6: losing their family.

810
00:45:48,880 --> 00:45:51,000
Speaker 3: Farm AND i ended.

811
00:45:50,800 --> 00:45:55,040
Speaker 6: The death tax or the estate tax on family farms

812
00:45:55,040 --> 00:45:55,480
Speaker 6: and small.

813
00:45:55,520 --> 00:45:59,400
Speaker 4: Businesses SO i think you're appreciative of. That it was

814
00:45:59,440 --> 00:46:01,680
Speaker 4: a terrible, thing and.

815
00:46:01,640 --> 00:46:02,960
Speaker 3: Those kinds of things did indeed.

816
00:46:03,000 --> 00:46:05,640
Speaker 6: Have it's too bad that so many people in the

817
00:46:05,680 --> 00:46:10,879
Speaker 6: past couldn't have taken advantage of, it because it would

818
00:46:10,920 --> 00:46:11,680
Speaker 6: have made a lot.

819
00:46:11,480 --> 00:46:14,560
Speaker 3: Of happy people out of people that really have had

820
00:46:14,600 --> 00:46:15,200
Speaker 3: a miserable.

821
00:46:15,239 --> 00:46:18,719
Speaker 2: Life what's not that the life was, Miserable the life

822
00:46:18,760 --> 00:46:24,680
Speaker 2: was made. Miserable this idea that somehow government is entitled

823
00:46:25,120 --> 00:46:29,440
Speaker 2: to our labor is, madness that it's somehow unfair to

824
00:46:29,600 --> 00:46:33,200
Speaker 2: leave things to your, children that that belongs to some

825
00:46:33,280 --> 00:46:37,160
Speaker 2: government bureaucrat because they decided that's what's good and. DECENT

826
00:46:38,920 --> 00:46:40,920
Speaker 2: i have discussed this. BEFORE i want to leave it

827
00:46:40,920 --> 00:46:45,160
Speaker 2: all to my. Kids don't tell. Me i'll take care

828
00:46:45,200 --> 00:46:48,000
Speaker 2: of any charitable organization AS i see. Fit but my

829
00:46:48,239 --> 00:46:50,640
Speaker 2: job is to take care of my. Children and if

830
00:46:50,680 --> 00:46:52,000
Speaker 2: they want to spend the money the way the way

831
00:46:52,000 --> 00:46:53,480
Speaker 2: they want to spend the, money just LIKE i do,

832
00:46:53,520 --> 00:46:56,719
Speaker 2: It i'm. Alive, Fine i'm going to leave it to

833
00:46:56,760 --> 00:46:57,759
Speaker 2: strangers and not my own.

834
00:46:57,880 --> 00:46:59,439
Speaker 3: Kids that's.

835
00:46:59,520 --> 00:47:02,879
Speaker 2: Madness government things that they should be involved in that.

836
00:47:03,040 --> 00:47:04,239
Speaker 3: Process it is.

837
00:47:04,280 --> 00:47:10,279
Speaker 2: Obscene so what the president is actually engaged in, here

838
00:47:11,760 --> 00:47:15,040
Speaker 2: whether he knows it or, not it's a conversation about,

839
00:47:15,040 --> 00:47:19,040
Speaker 2: philosophy the difference between us and, them the difference between

840
00:47:19,040 --> 00:47:23,440
Speaker 2: the conservative and the. Liberal it isn't, Theirs it is

841
00:47:23,600 --> 00:47:28,160
Speaker 2: yours to do with as you see. Fit without the

842
00:47:28,280 --> 00:47:36,759
Speaker 2: concept of, Acceptance no leftist gets to decide what you

843
00:47:36,880 --> 00:47:39,399
Speaker 2: do with your, money and they sure as hell don't

844
00:47:39,400 --> 00:47:42,000
Speaker 2: get to, say, well we get our. Share it isn't.

845
00:47:42,160 --> 00:47:48,400
Speaker 2: THEIRS i will decide what to do with, it and

846
00:47:48,440 --> 00:47:49,160
Speaker 2: it's going.

847
00:47:48,960 --> 00:47:50,000
Speaker 3: To my kids.

848
00:47:51,880 --> 00:47:55,680
Speaker 2: And anybody who would put forth the policy that says.

849
00:47:55,640 --> 00:47:58,120
Speaker 3: No it should go somewhere. Else and you shouldn't have

850
00:47:58,120 --> 00:48:01,200
Speaker 3: to say that's someone you don't vote, for not worthy

851
00:48:01,239 --> 00:48:01,560
Speaker 3: of your.

852
00:48:01,480 --> 00:48:03,680
Speaker 2: Vote not worthy of your, time and not worthy of your.

853
00:48:03,680 --> 00:48:07,800
Speaker 2: Love we'll catch up with some more From President trump

854
00:48:07,800 --> 00:48:07,960
Speaker 2: in a.

855
00:48:08,000 --> 00:48:09,960
Speaker 3: Moment keep it. Here this Is Tony Kats.

856
00:48:09,960 --> 00:48:12,960
Speaker 2: Today Wall Street journal is reporting That iran has blocked

857
00:48:13,000 --> 00:48:20,120
Speaker 2: To chinese ships in The strait Of. Hormuz we should

858
00:48:20,160 --> 00:48:22,279
Speaker 2: take a moment to discuss how flat out odd that.

859
00:48:22,440 --> 00:48:38,040
Speaker 2: Is iran wants to anger The chinesell bold, Strategy. Cotton

860
00:48:38,760 --> 00:48:40,200
Speaker 2: let's see how it works, Out.

861
00:48:41,880 --> 00:48:44,880
Speaker 3: Tony. Kats Tony kats, today are.

862
00:48:47,440 --> 00:48:52,760
Speaker 2: That's Something iran turning back To china owned container vessels

863
00:48:52,760 --> 00:48:59,560
Speaker 2: from this. Trait, Now israel has amounted an, attack saying

864
00:48:59,560 --> 00:49:03,719
Speaker 2: a Target iranian weapons facilities and warned residents uh in

865
00:49:04,080 --> 00:49:04,960
Speaker 2: parts of the city of.

866
00:49:04,920 --> 00:49:09,960
Speaker 3: A rock A r a k to to.

867
00:49:10,120 --> 00:49:15,040
Speaker 2: Evacuate, now IF i have an idea of where a roq,

868
00:49:15,280 --> 00:49:17,360
Speaker 2: is no rock is in the middle of the, COUNTRY

869
00:49:17,760 --> 00:49:22,040
Speaker 2: A r A. K that, is that is in the.

870
00:49:22,080 --> 00:49:28,319
Speaker 2: MIDDLE i thought that was for a, second towards towards The.

871
00:49:28,360 --> 00:49:35,920
Speaker 2: Gulf it absolutely is. Not but you have these this

872
00:49:36,160 --> 00:49:42,000
Speaker 2: move from The, israelis and as they continue to to

873
00:49:42,160 --> 00:49:46,600
Speaker 2: hit at military targets several countries in The gulf intercepted

874
00:49:46,719 --> 00:49:50,279
Speaker 2: drones and, missiles but strikes hit Two kuwaiti, ports one

875
00:49:50,360 --> 00:49:55,080
Speaker 2: missile landing In. Jordan so you, know the The iranians

876
00:49:55,120 --> 00:49:58,920
Speaker 2: are still firing all over the place and really trying

877
00:49:58,960 --> 00:50:04,839
Speaker 2: to engage a level of just pure havoc that do

878
00:50:04,840 --> 00:50:08,200
Speaker 2: they think they could just create enough stress that this will?

879
00:50:08,320 --> 00:50:12,720
Speaker 3: End maybe they maybe they. Do maybe what.

880
00:50:12,600 --> 00:50:15,640
Speaker 2: They're wondering, is, well if we try, this maybe it'll. Work,

881
00:50:15,680 --> 00:50:18,560
Speaker 2: well maybe we try, this it'll, work. Man but maybe

882
00:50:18,560 --> 00:50:21,280
Speaker 2: they're things that they're trying don't work because the equipment

883
00:50:21,320 --> 00:50:29,160
Speaker 2: that they have doesn't actually. Work but if you're gonna

884
00:50:29,200 --> 00:50:32,839
Speaker 2: go After chinese vessels in the straight up.

885
00:50:32,760 --> 00:50:40,879
Speaker 3: Horre, moves that's where do you where do you Think

886
00:50:41,160 --> 00:50:44,640
Speaker 3: iran's getting their? Money? Now maybe they.

887
00:50:44,520 --> 00:50:50,239
Speaker 2: Believe in this idea of the hostage, taking where you

888
00:50:50,400 --> 00:50:56,480
Speaker 2: can charge these ships two million dollars for safe. Passage

889
00:50:58,440 --> 00:51:01,080
Speaker 2: the world is gonna be okay with being held the

890
00:51:01,120 --> 00:51:03,600
Speaker 2: hostage to living.

891
00:51:03,360 --> 00:51:04,160
Speaker 3: In a bribery.

892
00:51:04,200 --> 00:51:06,520
Speaker 2: WORLD i, mean there's already gotta be some level of

893
00:51:06,520 --> 00:51:09,239
Speaker 2: bribery that takes place with all these things to keep

894
00:51:09,280 --> 00:51:11,839
Speaker 2: these you, know pirates from boarding you and all that.

895
00:51:11,920 --> 00:51:17,000
Speaker 3: Jazz the navies can't be everywhere at all, times.

896
00:51:20,640 --> 00:51:23,840
Speaker 2: So maybe you, know it could just be, well you

897
00:51:23,840 --> 00:51:26,799
Speaker 2: didn't you didn't play the pay the big so we're

898
00:51:26,800 --> 00:51:27,440
Speaker 2: not gonna let you.

899
00:51:27,480 --> 00:51:31,160
Speaker 3: Through but it's certainly odd.

900
00:51:32,360 --> 00:51:35,440
Speaker 2: That this would Affect chinese, ships considering that's where you're

901
00:51:35,440 --> 00:51:41,640
Speaker 2: getting the. Money they were trying to exit The Persian

902
00:51:41,640 --> 00:51:48,640
Speaker 2: gulf and they got turned. Away THE irgc said the

903
00:51:48,680 --> 00:51:53,920
Speaker 2: strait was, shut even Though President trump has said there

904
00:51:53,960 --> 00:51:58,680
Speaker 2: was an agreement to let some ships. Through the only

905
00:51:58,719 --> 00:52:00,480
Speaker 2: THING i could see that you're doing in this in

906
00:52:00,560 --> 00:52:05,440
Speaker 2: this scenario is creating the opportunity for the world to,

907
00:52:05,440 --> 00:52:08,400
Speaker 2: say you know, what we got, This we're just going to,

908
00:52:08,640 --> 00:52:11,000
Speaker 2: uh we're just going to end this and we're going

909
00:52:11,040 --> 00:52:16,880
Speaker 2: to open up to the best of our, ability the

910
00:52:16,920 --> 00:52:20,240
Speaker 2: Straight we're just gonna open this thing up and and

911
00:52:20,239 --> 00:52:21,440
Speaker 2: we'll let the chips fall where they.

912
00:52:21,520 --> 00:52:26,880
Speaker 3: May but we're not gonna have this. Anymore we're not

913
00:52:26,880 --> 00:52:28,600
Speaker 3: gonna put up with this. Anymore we're not gonna take

914
00:52:28,640 --> 00:52:31,759
Speaker 3: this this nonsense. Anymore no, no, no, no, no no no, no,

915
00:52:31,760 --> 00:52:32,319
Speaker 3: no no no.

916
00:52:32,320 --> 00:52:37,399
Speaker 2: No we are going to handle, this and it's going

917
00:52:37,440 --> 00:52:43,640
Speaker 2: to be very bad for The. Iranians that could be,

918
00:52:43,760 --> 00:52:48,160
Speaker 2: it that could be what's next.

919
00:52:48,160 --> 00:52:50,760
Speaker 3: Here it's not the only thing going, on.

920
00:52:52,520 --> 00:52:54,759
Speaker 2: You, know there is other news outside of what's going

921
00:52:54,800 --> 00:52:56,360
Speaker 2: on with the, randal though it is the big. Stuff

922
00:52:56,600 --> 00:53:01,200
Speaker 2: and of course you have THE dhs, funding which is

923
00:53:01,239 --> 00:53:04,160
Speaker 2: getting stranger and. Stranger by the, Way Producer, LANDON i

924
00:53:04,200 --> 00:53:07,880
Speaker 2: think Speaker johnson is. TALKING i just can't find that.

925
00:53:07,960 --> 00:53:09,960
Speaker 2: Link if he, is can you grab that for?

926
00:53:10,080 --> 00:53:11,839
Speaker 3: Me thank you so.

927
00:53:11,920 --> 00:53:17,760
Speaker 2: Much you have this story that THE fbi is now

928
00:53:17,800 --> 00:53:22,520
Speaker 2: offering a ten million dollar reward.

929
00:53:23,200 --> 00:53:24,640
Speaker 3: After hackers linked To.

930
00:53:24,719 --> 00:53:29,919
Speaker 2: Iran we're able to breach the emails OF Fbi director cash.

931
00:53:29,960 --> 00:53:36,160
Speaker 2: MATEL fbi SAIDs. Investigating they call the data historical in,

932
00:53:36,320 --> 00:53:45,440
Speaker 2: nature unrelated to government. Systems ten million dollars for information

933
00:53:45,520 --> 00:53:52,160
Speaker 2: identifying The iran Based hondala hack. TEAM i don't know

934
00:53:52,200 --> 00:53:55,600
Speaker 2: what Does hondala? Mean do we have a definition? There

935
00:53:56,280 --> 00:53:59,560
Speaker 2: let me see IF i can figure that. Out hondala

936
00:54:00,560 --> 00:54:05,000
Speaker 2: is a prominent national symbol and personification of The palestinian.

937
00:54:05,040 --> 00:54:17,200
Speaker 2: People this according To. Wikipedia, okay all, RIGHT i don't

938
00:54:17,480 --> 00:54:21,759
Speaker 2: just offer ten million dollars ten million dollars to find the,

939
00:54:21,800 --> 00:54:24,560
Speaker 2: team but three million dollars for the first person who

940
00:54:24,560 --> 00:54:27,040
Speaker 2: brings us one of their heads on a, pike and

941
00:54:27,080 --> 00:54:28,840
Speaker 2: you say to, me my, God, tony that is so

942
00:54:29,000 --> 00:54:32,200
Speaker 2: violent and so gross and so. Despicable not as, violent

943
00:54:32,200 --> 00:54:37,080
Speaker 2: gross and despicable as. Hacking these people who engage in

944
00:54:37,120 --> 00:54:40,480
Speaker 2: the ransomware, stuff you, UNDERSTAND.

945
00:54:40,000 --> 00:54:44,640
Speaker 3: I believe the same exact thing the.

946
00:54:44,719 --> 00:54:47,960
Speaker 2: Hacking, now this is of course, war and so you

947
00:54:48,000 --> 00:54:50,560
Speaker 2: should expect many things to happen in.

948
00:54:50,600 --> 00:54:54,319
Speaker 3: War but, man DO i despise the hackers in a,

949
00:54:54,680 --> 00:54:57,360
Speaker 3: huge massive?

950
00:54:57,400 --> 00:55:05,879
Speaker 2: Way DO i despise the hackers also that they would

951
00:55:05,960 --> 00:55:12,120
Speaker 2: tell us it's not you, know anything of major important

952
00:55:12,120 --> 00:55:13,960
Speaker 2: things being worked. ON i don't know if one hundred

953
00:55:13,960 --> 00:55:17,400
Speaker 2: percent believe. Them we don't know what got. Hacked we

954
00:55:17,440 --> 00:55:18,440
Speaker 2: don't know where the access.

955
00:55:18,520 --> 00:55:21,600
Speaker 3: Is this is the.

956
00:55:21,680 --> 00:55:24,880
Speaker 2: Latest IF i can get, you, Speaker Mike, JOHNSON i.

957
00:55:24,880 --> 00:55:26,800
Speaker 3: Will it's a busy. Day keep it. Here this Is

958
00:55:26,880 --> 00:55:27,440
Speaker 3: Tony kats.

959
00:55:27,440 --> 00:55:33,520
Speaker 2: Today three more, Things Tony, Kats Tony katz. Today, guys

960
00:55:33,600 --> 00:55:38,160
Speaker 2: it's a. Pleasure it is, good good. Stuff three more.

961
00:55:38,200 --> 00:55:42,879
Speaker 2: Things these are things that should be. Headlines but yet,

962
00:55:42,960 --> 00:55:46,880
Speaker 2: somehow because everything is happening and everyone is, insane and

963
00:55:47,000 --> 00:55:49,799
Speaker 2: they are not should be headlined. Headlines what in the

964
00:55:49,800 --> 00:55:52,560
Speaker 2: world just? Happened, right but, yeah there it is a

965
00:55:52,560 --> 00:55:57,120
Speaker 2: little bit of. Repeating that wasn't the. Headline, no the headline.

966
00:55:58,920 --> 00:56:00,000
Speaker 3: Is steve bat.

967
00:56:01,800 --> 00:56:06,200
Speaker 2: Because If Steve bannon is embarrassing, himself you want to.

968
00:56:06,239 --> 00:56:12,719
Speaker 3: Watch Steve bannon was AT, seapac And Steve bannon is

969
00:56:12,760 --> 00:56:17,120
Speaker 3: amongst the class of not so Much.

970
00:56:17,160 --> 00:56:23,400
Speaker 2: America, first they believe that any action outside of our

971
00:56:23,440 --> 00:56:30,160
Speaker 2: borders is just Neo Khan john McCain sexual fantasy. Stuff

972
00:56:30,560 --> 00:56:35,120
Speaker 2: and we are always. Wrong we're always at. Fault the

973
00:56:35,280 --> 00:56:39,000
Speaker 2: idea of mistakes made versus always at. Fault those are different.

974
00:56:39,000 --> 00:56:43,320
Speaker 2: Things But, bannon and by the, way it's It's steve's.

975
00:56:43,320 --> 00:56:46,720
Speaker 2: Fault he came at. Me he came at, me calling

976
00:56:46,719 --> 00:56:48,759
Speaker 2: me a Stock. Republican so every now and THEN i

977
00:56:48,840 --> 00:56:50,520
Speaker 2: just got a bitch slap. Him it's just the way it.

978
00:56:50,560 --> 00:56:53,600
Speaker 2: GOES i didn't DIDN'T i didn't do this. RIGHT i

979
00:56:53,640 --> 00:56:56,160
Speaker 2: didn't make the. Rules these are the rules of the.

980
00:56:56,160 --> 00:56:59,760
Speaker 2: Street you come at the, king you best not. Miss,

981
00:57:02,120 --> 00:57:04,480
Speaker 2: yes in this, SITUATION i did refer to myself as the,

982
00:57:04,560 --> 00:57:05,680
Speaker 2: king WHICH i agree with.

983
00:57:05,719 --> 00:57:06,840
Speaker 3: You super.

984
00:57:06,880 --> 00:57:13,319
Speaker 2: Weird Steve, bennon he's AT, seapack The Conservative Political Action,

985
00:57:13,400 --> 00:57:15,880
Speaker 2: conference and he thinks he's the leader of these, people

986
00:57:16,520 --> 00:57:19,320
Speaker 2: and he we shouldn't be at war And iran there

987
00:57:19,360 --> 00:57:21,280
Speaker 2: was nothing. Imminent we shouldn't be doing anything in The

988
00:57:21,320 --> 00:57:22,920
Speaker 2: israelis are doing this and all that.

989
00:57:23,000 --> 00:57:26,320
Speaker 3: Crap and he's, like, here let me take a, poll

990
00:57:26,560 --> 00:57:27,439
Speaker 3: steal a little poll.

991
00:57:27,520 --> 00:57:32,360
Speaker 8: Here this is all HARDCORE maga, leadership grass roots for.

992
00:57:32,440 --> 00:57:37,160
Speaker 6: Leadership, Right, okay that's the good.

993
00:57:37,160 --> 00:57:39,000
Speaker 3: News now comes to hard. News you got to make some.

994
00:57:39,120 --> 00:57:46,360
Speaker 6: Choices who among you would Advise President trump we have

995
00:57:46,480 --> 00:57:47,280
Speaker 6: to finish what we.

996
00:57:47,360 --> 00:57:54,280
Speaker 5: Started how many would how many would, say right.

997
00:57:54,120 --> 00:57:56,600
Speaker 6: Now get an off ramp and let's get out of

998
00:57:56,600 --> 00:57:57,680
Speaker 6: here By.

999
00:57:57,800 --> 00:58:08,640
Speaker 3: Saturday i'd say sixty sixty five thirty, five sixty five thirty.

1000
00:58:08,680 --> 00:58:13,880
Speaker 2: Five he believes that he understands exactly where these people

1001
00:58:13,880 --> 00:58:21,240
Speaker 2: aren't exactly what they. Think he doesn't understand, Ungats he understands.

1002
00:58:21,440 --> 00:58:28,240
Speaker 2: Nothing how much influence do these people really?

1003
00:58:28,440 --> 00:58:34,160
Speaker 3: Have why do we think it is so?

1004
00:58:34,400 --> 00:58:37,480
Speaker 2: Massive that's different than whether or NOT i concern myself

1005
00:58:37,480 --> 00:58:38,520
Speaker 2: with any influence they.

1006
00:58:38,560 --> 00:58:41,240
Speaker 3: Have because there's a follower, count it's all.

1007
00:58:41,360 --> 00:58:46,360
Speaker 2: Bots none of it's, Real none of it's. REAL i

1008
00:58:46,400 --> 00:58:48,200
Speaker 2: don't know IF i can risk the fact that none

1009
00:58:48,240 --> 00:58:50,880
Speaker 2: of it's real And by the, WAY i never call for.

1010
00:58:50,960 --> 00:58:55,080
Speaker 2: Deplatforming Let bannon do his, show and Let Megan kelly

1011
00:58:55,080 --> 00:58:58,000
Speaker 2: do her, show And tucker do his show And. CANADA i, mean,

1012
00:58:58,240 --> 00:59:01,440
Speaker 2: admittedly spending your day going after a widow is super.

1013
00:59:01,440 --> 00:59:07,320
Speaker 2: Weird it's super, creepy super, weird but, hey everyone's got a.

1014
00:59:07,360 --> 00:59:11,439
Speaker 2: Fetish but she's just a twist and a turn away

1015
00:59:11,720 --> 00:59:16,520
Speaker 2: from flat out being a. Stalker WHAT i want is

1016
00:59:16,600 --> 00:59:20,440
Speaker 2: an aggressive counter to the nonsense that they put. Forth

1017
00:59:22,520 --> 00:59:24,760
Speaker 2: what they put forth is, ugly what they put forth is.

1018
00:59:24,800 --> 00:59:29,200
Speaker 2: Obscene what they put forth is. Madness and they're totally

1019
00:59:29,240 --> 00:59:36,800
Speaker 2: disconnected from where the people. Are they're completely and totally

1020
00:59:37,480 --> 00:59:42,680
Speaker 2: disconnected from where you AND i, live, breathe act and.

1021
00:59:42,800 --> 00:59:52,160
Speaker 2: Act that is repeated myself right. There they aren't close to.

1022
00:59:52,360 --> 00:59:58,800
Speaker 2: Understanding what they are is very focused on engaging a

1023
00:59:58,840 --> 01:00:03,000
Speaker 2: certain audience and how much can they dominate that. Audience

1024
01:00:04,080 --> 01:00:08,760
Speaker 2: we've discussed this before about twenty to twenty nine year olds.

1025
01:00:10,840 --> 01:00:12,760
Speaker 3: And how they.

1026
01:00:12,600 --> 01:00:18,880
Speaker 2: Are really kind of desperate to own and control that.

1027
01:00:18,920 --> 01:00:21,280
Speaker 2: Group that's where the future, is that's what gives them

1028
01:00:21,320 --> 01:00:24,520
Speaker 2: the most, Longevity so therefore that's where they want to.

1029
01:00:24,560 --> 01:00:44,280
Speaker 2: Be so that's number. One then comes number, two which is.

1030
01:00:45,920 --> 01:00:47,360
Speaker 3: How we are putting the.

1031
01:00:47,280 --> 01:00:53,760
Speaker 2: Squeeze ON h ONE b visa. Holders The Labor department

1032
01:00:55,280 --> 01:01:00,959
Speaker 2: is stating via The trump, administration if you are going

1033
01:01:01,000 --> 01:01:04,120
Speaker 2: to have AN h ONE b visa, holder right these

1034
01:01:04,120 --> 01:01:06,960
Speaker 2: are people coming in from other countries and work in

1035
01:01:07,040 --> 01:01:13,840
Speaker 2: certain categories like for, example software, development we are now

1036
01:01:13,880 --> 01:01:16,560
Speaker 2: going to increase the minimum pay that you have to pay.

1037
01:01:16,600 --> 01:01:21,080
Speaker 2: Them the argument here is is that if you are

1038
01:01:21,200 --> 01:01:23,720
Speaker 2: saying you need to bring in people from another country

1039
01:01:24,880 --> 01:01:27,320
Speaker 2: to do the, work the.

1040
01:01:27,280 --> 01:01:29,960
Speaker 3: Coding this that the whatever it may, be.

1041
01:01:32,040 --> 01:01:37,160
Speaker 2: They actually have to be worth it to. You and

1042
01:01:37,280 --> 01:01:40,280
Speaker 2: so this is and the only way to describe this

1043
01:01:40,520 --> 01:01:47,760
Speaker 2: is an artificial increase in the cost to try and

1044
01:01:47,960 --> 01:01:50,000
Speaker 2: Get american workers hired.

1045
01:01:50,080 --> 01:01:56,240
Speaker 3: Instead it's.

1046
01:01:57,840 --> 01:02:01,240
Speaker 2: A big creepy in that that's not how we see.

1047
01:02:02,160 --> 01:02:08,760
Speaker 2: Ourselves it's not how we See. America it's not how

1048
01:02:08,760 --> 01:02:11,720
Speaker 2: we See. Americans it's not how we see how we do.

1049
01:02:11,800 --> 01:02:15,360
Speaker 2: Business where the government says you have to charge this

1050
01:02:15,480 --> 01:02:16,640
Speaker 2: or charge, that that's not.

1051
01:02:18,240 --> 01:02:21,680
Speaker 3: That's not. It that is not who we, are that

1052
01:02:21,800 --> 01:02:23,720
Speaker 3: is not what we want at.

1053
01:02:23,760 --> 01:02:29,160
Speaker 2: All the other side to this is have we been

1054
01:02:29,520 --> 01:02:38,280
Speaker 2: Foregoing american talent for the sake of cheaper foreign. Talent

1055
01:02:40,920 --> 01:02:43,480
Speaker 2: have we been telling people.

1056
01:02:43,200 --> 01:02:49,680
Speaker 3: There's no jobs for, you but ensuring jobs over?

1057
01:02:49,720 --> 01:02:54,840
Speaker 2: There is that something that we should be doing. Now

1058
01:02:54,840 --> 01:02:57,600
Speaker 2: this is maybe different than how we feel, about for,

1059
01:02:57,640 --> 01:03:01,600
Speaker 2: example trade, deficits and you're not buying as much from

1060
01:03:01,680 --> 01:03:03,640
Speaker 2: us as we're buying from, you and that's not. Fair

1061
01:03:04,200 --> 01:03:07,120
Speaker 2: that's a problem in that. Situation that's not a. Problem

1062
01:03:07,160 --> 01:03:09,240
Speaker 2: we've already proven that it's not a. Problem and tariffs

1063
01:03:09,280 --> 01:03:11,320
Speaker 2: don't solve trade, deficits as we have.

1064
01:03:11,400 --> 01:03:13,560
Speaker 3: Seen remember the tariff.

1065
01:03:13,640 --> 01:03:21,160
Speaker 2: Suck gonna get so yelled at the tariffs. SUCK a

1066
01:03:21,240 --> 01:03:28,520
Speaker 2: trade deficit where you have some country where we're buying

1067
01:03:28,520 --> 01:03:32,120
Speaker 2: more than they buy from, us, well they then invest

1068
01:03:32,160 --> 01:03:34,040
Speaker 2: in The United, states so we kind of get the

1069
01:03:34,040 --> 01:03:36,800
Speaker 2: money back as long as we can get the goods

1070
01:03:36,800 --> 01:03:39,000
Speaker 2: at a good. Price isn't that one matters? Most AND

1071
01:03:39,040 --> 01:03:42,480
Speaker 2: i would argue that the economic says, yes a thousand.

1072
01:03:42,480 --> 01:03:46,240
Speaker 3: Percent is that true about the labor?

1073
01:03:46,280 --> 01:03:51,800
Speaker 2: Market i'm asking BECAUSE i JUST i think there's at

1074
01:03:51,880 --> 01:03:53,800
Speaker 2: least a worthy consideration.

1075
01:03:53,920 --> 01:03:55,880
Speaker 3: THERE i can do the. MATH i can.

1076
01:03:55,720 --> 01:03:58,760
Speaker 2: Show that it doesn't matter if we buy more from

1077
01:03:58,840 --> 01:04:00,960
Speaker 2: COUNTRY a than they buy FROM. Us if they're now

1078
01:04:00,960 --> 01:04:03,480
Speaker 2: going to invest IN us because we're the place that

1079
01:04:03,480 --> 01:04:06,240
Speaker 2: you do the investing in the markets, here in companies.

1080
01:04:06,240 --> 01:04:11,480
Speaker 3: Here so, good that's good for. Us and if.

1081
01:04:12,120 --> 01:04:14,880
Speaker 2: Having the trade deficit also means that the goods for

1082
01:04:15,000 --> 01:04:21,640
Speaker 2: our people are, cheaper also. Good i'm also in favor of.

1083
01:04:21,640 --> 01:04:25,920
Speaker 2: This but if you have people who can't get a

1084
01:04:26,040 --> 01:04:30,640
Speaker 2: job because the job is going, overseas if you will

1085
01:04:30,680 --> 01:04:34,880
Speaker 2: even if we're bringing that person, HERE i, mean it's

1086
01:04:35,000 --> 01:04:38,480
Speaker 2: just another it's another it's an offshoot of or it's

1087
01:04:38,520 --> 01:04:46,720
Speaker 2: just a different way to look at. Offshoring, now there

1088
01:04:46,720 --> 01:04:49,680
Speaker 2: are some people who will tell you that there isn't

1089
01:04:49,800 --> 01:04:52,960
Speaker 2: actually a difference if you've got comparative levels of education and.

1090
01:04:53,080 --> 01:04:56,840
Speaker 3: Experience there is a little evidence of pay.

1091
01:04:56,880 --> 01:05:04,480
Speaker 2: Disparity this according to The National foundation For American Policy.

1092
01:05:05,120 --> 01:05:13,040
Speaker 2: Now they are an organization that focuses on skilled immigration

1093
01:05:13,160 --> 01:05:16,400
Speaker 2: to THE, us so they have a point of. View

1094
01:05:20,800 --> 01:05:25,040
Speaker 2: if we're hiring foreign workers because it's, cheaper and we're

1095
01:05:25,040 --> 01:05:27,560
Speaker 2: now raising the price and it gets More americans, hired

1096
01:05:27,880 --> 01:05:30,880
Speaker 2: the vast majority of people are gonna, say, good, good

1097
01:05:30,920 --> 01:05:31,920
Speaker 2: we Want americans to be.

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01:05:32,000 --> 01:05:37,880
Speaker 3: Hired we want this to take. PLACE i.

1099
01:05:39,600 --> 01:05:43,840
Speaker 2: Would say that one could argue it on its national security.

1100
01:05:43,880 --> 01:05:48,280
Speaker 2: Merits BUT i think that as people do think about these.

1101
01:05:48,120 --> 01:05:48,840
Speaker 3: Things.

1102
01:05:50,360 --> 01:05:52,560
Speaker 2: It gets a little it might get a little stickier

1103
01:05:52,560 --> 01:05:56,280
Speaker 2: for some. People and, then BECAUSE i do like a good,

1104
01:05:56,320 --> 01:05:58,120
Speaker 2: List i'm a sucker for a good.

1105
01:05:58,160 --> 01:06:00,520
Speaker 3: List the most.

1106
01:06:00,320 --> 01:06:03,200
Speaker 2: Reliable cars of all Time this was a story over At.

1107
01:06:03,200 --> 01:06:09,640
Speaker 2: Autoblog AND i find myself looking for used cars all the.

1108
01:06:09,720 --> 01:06:17,440
Speaker 2: Time all the, Time i'm always searching for stuff and

1109
01:06:17,480 --> 01:06:19,720
Speaker 2: looking at. Stop i'm not always buying STUFF i have

1110
01:06:19,960 --> 01:06:25,880
Speaker 2: before About i'm. Looking so they went THROUGH i mean

1111
01:06:25,920 --> 01:06:27,800
Speaker 2: they went through a little bit of. History what are

1112
01:06:27,880 --> 01:06:33,880
Speaker 2: the five most reliable using cars used cars of all?

1113
01:06:33,920 --> 01:06:37,040
Speaker 2: TIME i think it's just, cars five most reliable. Cars

1114
01:06:37,040 --> 01:06:40,200
Speaker 2: they were built and they're bulletproof and they could do.

1115
01:06:40,240 --> 01:06:44,000
Speaker 2: Anything NOW i know that one of, them although it's

1116
01:06:44,080 --> 01:06:45,760
Speaker 2: not on this, list is The toyota Land.

1117
01:06:45,800 --> 01:06:49,919
Speaker 3: Cruiser that car will go on for.

1118
01:06:49,920 --> 01:06:53,360
Speaker 2: Forever and then it's the sister of, that which is

1119
01:06:53,400 --> 01:06:55,360
Speaker 2: The Toyota, sequoia which is the wider.

1120
01:06:55,480 --> 01:06:59,560
Speaker 3: VERSION i actually own A, sequoia not a new.

1121
01:06:59,560 --> 01:07:02,960
Speaker 2: ONE i used. One it's WHAT i. Like and then you,

1122
01:07:02,960 --> 01:07:06,280
Speaker 2: know you've got the pickup. Trucks so the nineteen eighty

1123
01:07:06,280 --> 01:07:10,840
Speaker 2: three to the nineteen ninety Seven toyota. Pickup according to,

1124
01:07:10,880 --> 01:07:13,640
Speaker 2: them unbreakable.

1125
01:07:14,640 --> 01:07:16,400
Speaker 3: Two point four liter, engine.

1126
01:07:18,040 --> 01:07:24,440
Speaker 2: Ladder frame, chassis just supposed to be, forever a forever.

1127
01:07:24,520 --> 01:07:26,320
Speaker 3: Car that was number one on the.

1128
01:07:26,360 --> 01:07:32,480
Speaker 2: List number two The Ford Crown victoria for those of

1129
01:07:32,480 --> 01:07:34,360
Speaker 2: you who used to get arrested in the late eighties

1130
01:07:34,400 --> 01:07:35,640
Speaker 2: in the early, Nineties.

1131
01:07:36,280 --> 01:07:40,480
Speaker 3: Crown vic that's that is on the.

1132
01:07:40,520 --> 01:07:43,800
Speaker 2: List four point six literer MODULAR v eight between one

1133
01:07:43,840 --> 01:07:49,320
Speaker 2: hundred ninety two hundred and fifty horse. Power then they

1134
01:07:49,320 --> 01:07:51,880
Speaker 2: get to number. Three, NOW i will tell you right,

1135
01:07:51,920 --> 01:07:54,560
Speaker 2: now IF i could find one of, THESE i would

1136
01:07:54,560 --> 01:07:59,440
Speaker 2: buy one of These Mercedes benz two forty d's or

1137
01:07:59,480 --> 01:08:06,440
Speaker 2: three Hundred diesel which is THE w one twenty. Three

1138
01:08:06,680 --> 01:08:13,320
Speaker 2: and they built, tanks absolute. Tanks the two point Four

1139
01:08:13,400 --> 01:08:22,360
Speaker 2: Leader diesel two forty d is seventy two. Horsepower don't ask.

1140
01:08:22,400 --> 01:08:29,200
Speaker 2: Me tank will last. Forever they then go on to

1141
01:08:29,280 --> 01:08:33,080
Speaker 2: The Honda civic between nineteen ninety six and two thousand And,

1142
01:08:33,160 --> 01:08:36,479
Speaker 2: yes The LEXUS ls four hundred first and second generation

1143
01:08:36,720 --> 01:08:39,679
Speaker 2: nineteen eighty nine to two. Thousand, yes that car will

1144
01:08:39,720 --> 01:08:44,040
Speaker 2: last for forever and a day. More to get to, you,

1145
01:08:44,080 --> 01:08:46,479
Speaker 2: guys keep it. Here this Is Tony. Kats today the

1146
01:08:46,520 --> 01:08:50,559
Speaker 2: press has gathered to hear what it is That.

1147
01:08:52,720 --> 01:08:55,960
Speaker 3: Mike, johnson The speaker of The, house is going to.

1148
01:08:56,000 --> 01:08:59,200
Speaker 2: Say BUT i think we got a kind of preview

1149
01:08:59,280 --> 01:09:05,720
Speaker 2: of this when he was walking the halls in The

1150
01:09:05,800 --> 01:09:10,000
Speaker 2: house and the press is speaking to, him and he

1151
01:09:10,200 --> 01:09:12,080
Speaker 2: was pretty, clear we're.

1152
01:09:11,960 --> 01:09:14,439
Speaker 11: Going to get all the members together in satage better

1153
01:09:14,560 --> 01:09:15,519
Speaker 11: this morning about say he.

1154
01:09:15,600 --> 01:09:18,479
Speaker 3: Is infuriating That democrats.

1155
01:09:17,840 --> 01:09:20,160
Speaker 11: Are willing to play a hate on The american people

1156
01:09:20,680 --> 01:09:24,520
Speaker 11: simply so they can defund the agency that is responsible literally.

1157
01:09:24,760 --> 01:09:25,880
Speaker 7: With any coming out of the legal.

1158
01:09:25,880 --> 01:09:28,720
Speaker 11: Aliens that's about he was put on display for the

1159
01:09:28,760 --> 01:09:29,720
Speaker 11: huntry again with their wo.

1160
01:09:29,760 --> 01:09:36,840
Speaker 2: WAR i don't Think i'm an expert In Mike johnson's,

1161
01:09:36,840 --> 01:09:42,040
Speaker 2: demeanor but maybe you AND i were a little more

1162
01:09:42,280 --> 01:09:48,600
Speaker 2: observant than others because we do this there every. Day

1163
01:09:49,200 --> 01:09:53,799
Speaker 2: that's a pretty Angry Mike. Johnson that is a pretty

1164
01:09:53,840 --> 01:09:57,440
Speaker 2: Angry Mike. Johnson listen again.

1165
01:09:57,520 --> 01:10:00,800
Speaker 11: This morning about say he is infuriating that The democrats

1166
01:10:00,800 --> 01:10:04,000
Speaker 11: are willing to inflict paint on The american people simply

1167
01:10:04,040 --> 01:10:07,080
Speaker 11: so they can defund the agency that is responsible literally

1168
01:10:07,479 --> 01:10:08,200
Speaker 11: for any.

1169
01:10:08,120 --> 01:10:08,840
Speaker 8: Coming out of the legal.

1170
01:10:08,840 --> 01:10:11,160
Speaker 11: Anien sens of this about and just putting on this

1171
01:10:11,280 --> 01:10:13,280
Speaker 11: way to the country again with therefore.

1172
01:10:16,000 --> 01:10:16,040
Speaker 12: Is?

1173
01:10:16,160 --> 01:10:21,439
Speaker 2: THERE i, mean you don't know until you, know But

1174
01:10:21,560 --> 01:10:31,920
Speaker 2: i'm telling you right now they are serious about putting

1175
01:10:31,960 --> 01:10:34,519
Speaker 2: a continuing resolution on the floor of The house and

1176
01:10:34,680 --> 01:10:41,680
Speaker 2: dismissing what The senate has. Done we don't care That

1177
01:10:41,840 --> 01:10:45,880
Speaker 2: Chuck schumer is happy with. This we're not playing this.

1178
01:10:46,040 --> 01:10:49,240
Speaker 2: Game we'll GET tsa funded one way or, another but

1179
01:10:49,360 --> 01:10:55,360
Speaker 2: we're not Giving schumer his anti ice. Anything what is

1180
01:10:55,439 --> 01:10:59,040
Speaker 2: the calculation that The republicans have done that this is

1181
01:10:59,160 --> 01:10:59,719
Speaker 2: the hill.

1182
01:11:01,200 --> 01:11:02,600
Speaker 3: And there's no way they're making this.

1183
01:11:02,840 --> 01:11:06,560
Speaker 2: Move and so this was What axios reported that The

1184
01:11:06,720 --> 01:11:11,960
Speaker 2: speaker is considering forgetting what The senate passed regarding Funding

1185
01:11:12,000 --> 01:11:15,040
Speaker 2: department Of Homeland, security which they did. Yesterday they'll Fund

1186
01:11:15,080 --> 01:11:17,360
Speaker 2: department Of Homeland, security but not a border, patrol NOT.

1187
01:11:17,479 --> 01:11:20,240
Speaker 2: Ice and what it now it has to go to

1188
01:11:20,280 --> 01:11:22,879
Speaker 2: The house right to get passed because it's different. Legislation

1189
01:11:23,840 --> 01:11:26,160
Speaker 2: and so the argument is The house is gonna, say screw,

1190
01:11:26,320 --> 01:11:29,679
Speaker 2: that here's a continuing resolution for sixty days to fund

1191
01:11:29,720 --> 01:11:31,720
Speaker 2: everything The department Of Homeland security while we figure it.

1192
01:11:31,760 --> 01:11:33,960
Speaker 2: Out we're not gonna give in To. Schumer we're not

1193
01:11:34,040 --> 01:11:39,640
Speaker 2: gonna budge an. Inch the only way that happens is

1194
01:11:39,640 --> 01:11:41,439
Speaker 2: If trump's okay with. It and there must be a

1195
01:11:41,520 --> 01:11:44,280
Speaker 2: way to FUND tsa agents that has to have been

1196
01:11:44,280 --> 01:11:46,000
Speaker 2: accomplished watched for.

1197
01:11:46,080 --> 01:11:47,040
Speaker 3: This it's gonna be.

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01:11:47,120 --> 01:11:56,840
Speaker 1: Fascinating I'm Tony Kats why from Ball hartbinert and The

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01:11:56,960 --> 01:11:58,760
Speaker 1: crossroads Of, America.

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01:12:00,120 --> 01:12:00,800
Speaker 3: Tony katz.

1201
01:12:00,880 --> 01:12:04,080
Speaker 2: TODAY i have made this argument now a few, times

1202
01:12:04,360 --> 01:12:06,920
Speaker 2: And i'm not the only one making the, Argument BUT

1203
01:12:07,040 --> 01:12:10,120
Speaker 2: i often think on this one, subject AM i not

1204
01:12:10,240 --> 01:12:12,680
Speaker 2: being clear? Enough which is insane for me to. Think

1205
01:12:12,720 --> 01:12:14,360
Speaker 2: you guys have known me now long enough to Know

1206
01:12:15,000 --> 01:12:18,200
Speaker 2: i'm pretty. Clear Tony, Katz Tony Kats. Today good to be,

1207
01:12:18,320 --> 01:12:21,160
Speaker 2: Here good to be with. You The United states is

1208
01:12:21,240 --> 01:12:25,560
Speaker 2: doing outrageously well in taking out The iranian. THREAT i

1209
01:12:25,680 --> 01:12:28,560
Speaker 2: don't believe we should leave until the regime is completely.

1210
01:12:28,760 --> 01:12:34,519
Speaker 2: Gone totally, gone no concept of supporting, terrorism no concept

1211
01:12:34,600 --> 01:12:37,479
Speaker 2: of anybody connected to The iatola in a position of.

1212
01:12:37,720 --> 01:12:39,960
Speaker 2: Power AND i would like to not have to think

1213
01:12:39,960 --> 01:12:44,360
Speaker 2: about The Middle east for five. Minutes but as that is,

1214
01:12:44,479 --> 01:12:46,920
Speaker 2: happening we've got people on the political left and on

1215
01:12:47,040 --> 01:12:50,960
Speaker 2: the woke right, who to me very much seem like

1216
01:12:51,000 --> 01:12:53,680
Speaker 2: they're rooting For america to, lose or, really IF i

1217
01:12:53,720 --> 01:12:55,880
Speaker 2: could be more, clear For Donald trump to.

1218
01:12:55,960 --> 01:12:59,599
Speaker 3: Lose they don't actually hate the, military but as.

1219
01:12:59,520 --> 01:13:02,800
Speaker 2: Long As trump, loses they're somehow better off with their,

1220
01:13:03,200 --> 01:13:09,479
Speaker 2: methodology their. Psychology it's really and truly. Obscene and even

1221
01:13:09,560 --> 01:13:12,759
Speaker 2: Though trump is doing, well he does things like Calling

1222
01:13:13,439 --> 01:13:18,479
Speaker 2: iran an excursion that kind of minimizes the threat to

1223
01:13:18,760 --> 01:13:23,240
Speaker 2: our military and what happened to thirteen soldiers.

1224
01:13:22,840 --> 01:13:25,120
Speaker 3: Who lost their lives in this.

1225
01:13:25,320 --> 01:13:29,280
Speaker 2: FIGHT i Think i'm, clear but SOMETIMES i don't Think

1226
01:13:29,320 --> 01:13:32,600
Speaker 2: i'm perfectly. Clear Noah roffman joins me right. Now you

1227
01:13:32,880 --> 01:13:36,000
Speaker 2: catch his work At National Review National review dot. Com

1228
01:13:36,280 --> 01:13:39,479
Speaker 2: his third, Book blood In, PROGRESS A century Of Left Wing,

1229
01:13:39,640 --> 01:13:42,919
Speaker 2: violence will be available In. May you find At amazon

1230
01:13:43,000 --> 01:13:45,280
Speaker 2: dot com wherever fine books are. Sold you can pre

1231
01:13:45,439 --> 01:13:50,160
Speaker 2: order right. Now you have the, peace The iran war.

1232
01:13:50,280 --> 01:13:55,160
Speaker 2: Successes they don't want you to hear about. You you're

1233
01:13:55,200 --> 01:13:57,680
Speaker 2: not a historian by, trade but you are a man who.

1234
01:13:57,800 --> 01:14:00,840
Speaker 2: Studies do we take a look at what we have

1235
01:14:01,000 --> 01:14:03,680
Speaker 2: seen and base it on other events and? History in

1236
01:14:03,800 --> 01:14:06,479
Speaker 2: terms of world, wars in terms of actually declared? Wars

1237
01:14:06,800 --> 01:14:09,880
Speaker 2: are we talking about seeing what we've seen With iran

1238
01:14:10,200 --> 01:14:13,479
Speaker 2: comparing it to other actions that have taken place over

1239
01:14:13,520 --> 01:14:14,200
Speaker 2: the last thirty.

1240
01:14:14,280 --> 01:14:17,240
Speaker 13: Years, well in that, PIECE i try to make the,

1241
01:14:17,320 --> 01:14:19,200
Speaker 13: point and it's an over long. Piece it's like twenty

1242
01:14:19,240 --> 01:14:21,120
Speaker 13: seven hundred, words but it needed to be very long

1243
01:14:21,160 --> 01:14:23,920
Speaker 13: in order to be comprehensive because there is so many

1244
01:14:23,960 --> 01:14:26,439
Speaker 13: misapprehensions floating. Around and, yeah and the PIECE i make

1245
01:14:26,479 --> 01:14:30,160
Speaker 13: the claim that compared to what is the most important

1246
01:14:30,240 --> 01:14:32,040
Speaker 13: question that you can ask yourself in these sort of

1247
01:14:32,080 --> 01:14:36,200
Speaker 13: situations because it grounds you in counterfactuals that other people

1248
01:14:36,280 --> 01:14:40,679
Speaker 13: can actually test and, scenarios for, example all the wargames

1249
01:14:40,680 --> 01:14:42,799
Speaker 13: that we've been running Against iran over the last thirty,

1250
01:14:42,880 --> 01:14:47,080
Speaker 13: years and compared to what indicates that we're doing spectacularly

1251
01:14:47,160 --> 01:14:50,400
Speaker 13: well on the battlefield. Tactically and you, know people are

1252
01:14:50,479 --> 01:14:53,679
Speaker 13: very quick to, note, well tactical games do not beget strategic,

1253
01:14:53,760 --> 01:14:56,240
Speaker 13: successes WHICH i write in that piece that a lot

1254
01:14:56,280 --> 01:14:58,479
Speaker 13: of people who have just recently stumbled into that little

1255
01:14:58,479 --> 01:15:01,160
Speaker 13: piece of insight and then you, know bandied about it

1256
01:15:01,280 --> 01:15:04,360
Speaker 13: though this is their discovery and therefore you probably weren't

1257
01:15:04,360 --> 01:15:07,280
Speaker 13: aware of it. Either but, no it's pretty obvious that

1258
01:15:07,360 --> 01:15:09,320
Speaker 13: you can make the case that The United states, fumbles

1259
01:15:09,360 --> 01:15:12,439
Speaker 13: the post war has probably you could, argue since nineteen forty,

1260
01:15:12,520 --> 01:15:17,200
Speaker 13: five we're not there, yet entirely, theoretical and the coverage

1261
01:15:17,240 --> 01:15:20,880
Speaker 13: of this war from its, outset from day, one has

1262
01:15:20,920 --> 01:15:24,920
Speaker 13: been focused almost exclusively on the strategy at the expense

1263
01:15:25,000 --> 01:15:27,640
Speaker 13: of the. Tactics and that's like covering the end of

1264
01:15:27,680 --> 01:15:30,439
Speaker 13: a novel by skipping over the first. Chapters you don't

1265
01:15:30,479 --> 01:15:33,679
Speaker 13: know what you're looking, at you can't accurately assess what you're,

1266
01:15:33,800 --> 01:15:36,120
Speaker 13: seeing and you can't relate to the public in a

1267
01:15:36,200 --> 01:15:39,040
Speaker 13: way that conveys the totality of the information that you

1268
01:15:39,120 --> 01:15:41,960
Speaker 13: want to convey by focusing on the post war environment

1269
01:15:42,000 --> 01:15:44,000
Speaker 13: in the middle of the. War AND i think it's

1270
01:15:44,000 --> 01:15:47,080
Speaker 13: absolutely right what you've said that there is a contingent

1271
01:15:47,280 --> 01:15:49,960
Speaker 13: in the, press international and, domestic as well as in

1272
01:15:50,040 --> 01:15:54,520
Speaker 13: the political. Class by the Way American democrats And republicans

1273
01:15:55,000 --> 01:15:57,599
Speaker 13: who want to See Donald trump, fail not the, war

1274
01:15:57,880 --> 01:16:01,080
Speaker 13: not The american, people not the Sold they want to

1275
01:16:01,080 --> 01:16:04,439
Speaker 13: SEE bb And Donald trump. Humiliated and whenever they have the,

1276
01:16:04,520 --> 01:16:08,160
Speaker 13: opportunity they rush to that conclusion to see some sort

1277
01:16:08,200 --> 01:16:11,600
Speaker 13: of indignity visited upon the, president like what we saw On,

1278
01:16:11,680 --> 01:16:14,640
Speaker 13: monday and the immediate aftermath of The president, saying you,

1279
01:16:14,680 --> 01:16:16,360
Speaker 13: KNOW i was going to hit these power plants in five.

1280
01:16:16,439 --> 01:16:18,679
Speaker 13: Days i'm going to put that off for a, second

1281
01:16:18,720 --> 01:16:21,400
Speaker 13: because we're talking behind the scenes With iranians and the

1282
01:16:21,479 --> 01:16:25,080
Speaker 13: rush on the part of mainstream, reporters really knowledgeable folks

1283
01:16:25,080 --> 01:16:28,840
Speaker 13: who understand, warfare people Like Garis Law trufemovo At The

1284
01:16:28,840 --> 01:16:33,280
Speaker 13: Wall Street Journal Jonathan martin At politico insisted without any

1285
01:16:33,320 --> 01:16:36,120
Speaker 13: evidence That trump was just making it, up attempting to

1286
01:16:36,160 --> 01:16:38,960
Speaker 13: manipulate oil markets or trying to find some sort of

1287
01:16:39,000 --> 01:16:42,120
Speaker 13: off ramp for this disastrous situation he's gotten himself.

1288
01:16:42,160 --> 01:16:43,240
Speaker 3: Into and it was, true.

1289
01:16:43,360 --> 01:16:45,360
Speaker 13: Untrue there was no evidence behind. It it was a

1290
01:16:45,400 --> 01:16:49,040
Speaker 13: supposition based only on their own, prejudices and it exposed

1291
01:16:49,080 --> 01:16:52,160
Speaker 13: their own. Prejudices i'm happy to criticize the president's. RHETORIC

1292
01:16:52,200 --> 01:16:55,360
Speaker 13: i think you're right calling this an excursion merely to

1293
01:16:55,439 --> 01:16:59,080
Speaker 13: avoid going To congress for war powers or saying that

1294
01:16:59,200 --> 01:17:03,000
Speaker 13: the war is, won even as the tempo of combat operations. Accelerates,

1295
01:17:03,320 --> 01:17:05,880
Speaker 13: yeah it gives people. Misgivings they don't think you're taking this,

1296
01:17:05,960 --> 01:17:08,559
Speaker 13: seriously or they think you're gulling them into a narrative

1297
01:17:08,560 --> 01:17:11,080
Speaker 13: that is not, true and the people do not trust this.

1298
01:17:11,240 --> 01:17:13,760
Speaker 13: President he's made it clear that he doesn't trust them.

1299
01:17:13,840 --> 01:17:16,760
Speaker 13: Either he's not going to them with the proper rationale

1300
01:17:17,200 --> 01:17:20,560
Speaker 13: and asking them to bear and endure the sacrifices that

1301
01:17:20,640 --> 01:17:21,840
Speaker 13: this war has already imposed on.

1302
01:17:21,920 --> 01:17:22,599
Speaker 3: Them he really.

1303
01:17:22,680 --> 01:17:26,160
Speaker 13: Should, yes it has nothing to do nothing to do

1304
01:17:26,560 --> 01:17:30,719
Speaker 13: with combat, operations the efficacy of And israeli military operations

1305
01:17:30,760 --> 01:17:33,519
Speaker 13: on the, ground or the strategic elements that we're putting

1306
01:17:33,520 --> 01:17:36,519
Speaker 13: in place for a longer campaign against this, regime the

1307
01:17:36,640 --> 01:17:38,920
Speaker 13: destruction of which is the only way we're going to

1308
01:17:39,080 --> 01:17:40,960
Speaker 13: eliminate the threat from its missile in nuclear.

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01:17:41,000 --> 01:17:45,439
Speaker 2: Programs the hardest part of this, Conversation Noah Noah, Rothman

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01:17:45,600 --> 01:17:49,639
Speaker 2: National review Dot com is that people have a hard

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01:17:49,760 --> 01:17:54,080
Speaker 2: time with the idea that you can be laudatory and

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01:17:56,800 --> 01:17:59,960
Speaker 2: engaging in excruciating details failures at the same time.

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Speaker 3: Time, YEAH i don't find it.

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Speaker 13: Difficult, well, Oh. TONY i have heard in arguments over

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01:18:09,439 --> 01:18:11,960
Speaker 13: this war from my, friends from my, allies people with

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01:18:12,040 --> 01:18:15,840
Speaker 13: SOME i usually agree a lot of first person pronouns

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01:18:16,240 --> 01:18:22,000
Speaker 13: when talking about this. WAR i think my, friends me

1318
01:18:22,439 --> 01:18:25,240
Speaker 13: and others who have a certain outlook on this war

1319
01:18:25,360 --> 01:18:30,040
Speaker 13: whose personal brand is bound up in skepticism and critic

1320
01:18:30,320 --> 01:18:32,679
Speaker 13: and being critical Of trump and being supportive Of trump,

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01:18:32,880 --> 01:18:36,479
Speaker 13: whatever it is seeing this war through the prism of

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01:18:36,560 --> 01:18:41,320
Speaker 13: domestic politics and their position within domestic. Politics and that's

1323
01:18:41,400 --> 01:18:42,800
Speaker 13: just the wrong way to look at. It it's very,

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01:18:42,840 --> 01:18:46,280
Speaker 13: parochial a little bit, selfish and it results in that.

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Speaker 13: Analysis and we've seen a lot of that analysis of

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01:18:49,200 --> 01:18:50,679
Speaker 13: this on the tactical and strategic.

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Speaker 2: Levels let's engage a little bit of analysis on two. Things,

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01:18:55,840 --> 01:18:58,880
Speaker 2: first the idea of the five day. Pause he puts

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01:18:58,920 --> 01:19:02,640
Speaker 2: out the post on, truth you're gonna stop this Or

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01:19:02,640 --> 01:19:04,640
Speaker 2: i'm gonna take out basically all of your, energy the

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01:19:04,720 --> 01:19:07,880
Speaker 2: any energy reserves, here any power plant over. Here and

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01:19:07,960 --> 01:19:11,080
Speaker 2: then before that forty eight hours he gives is, up

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01:19:11,200 --> 01:19:14,880
Speaker 2: he says a five day. Pause then before the five

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01:19:14,960 --> 01:19:17,960
Speaker 2: day pauses, up he says ten more. Days, now all

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01:19:18,040 --> 01:19:20,840
Speaker 2: of this could all be sub, diffused right and could

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01:19:20,960 --> 01:19:23,240
Speaker 2: lead to you could see a bombing happening as we.

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01:19:23,439 --> 01:19:29,360
Speaker 2: Speak but the question is these delays is seen as

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01:19:29,520 --> 01:19:31,960
Speaker 2: this is a guy really negotiating to try and not

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01:19:32,920 --> 01:19:37,360
Speaker 2: engage any more. War is this something that do we

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01:19:37,439 --> 01:19:40,200
Speaker 2: have any news or information that MAKES us believe that

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01:19:40,280 --> 01:19:42,760
Speaker 2: there's actually somebody on The iranian, side which is at

1342
01:19:42,840 --> 01:19:43,599
Speaker 2: least a legitimate.

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01:19:43,720 --> 01:19:46,400
Speaker 3: Question if you've killed the, leadership who are we talking? To,

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01:19:47,479 --> 01:19:49,000
Speaker 3: yeah we don't, KNOW i don't.

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01:19:49,040 --> 01:19:51,879
Speaker 13: Know subsequent reporting has indicated that there is shuttle diplomacy

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01:19:51,960 --> 01:19:55,040
Speaker 13: going on between The United states and whatever representatives of

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01:19:55,080 --> 01:19:58,400
Speaker 13: The iranian government exist, presently and they're being shuttled through

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01:19:58,680 --> 01:20:03,680
Speaker 13: representatives for the. Government So, Pakistan egypt and Others i'm,

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01:20:03,680 --> 01:20:07,240
Speaker 13: forgetting but at least those two Major muslim, powers and

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01:20:07,400 --> 01:20:10,560
Speaker 13: that's perfectly. Believable it's not like it's hard to comprehend

1351
01:20:10,600 --> 01:20:12,840
Speaker 13: the notion that there are a back channel contexts between

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01:20:12,880 --> 01:20:15,439
Speaker 13: two warring parties during a. Conflict that happens all the.

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01:20:15,560 --> 01:20:20,320
Speaker 13: Time so you, know it was not at all predisposed

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01:20:20,439 --> 01:20:22,640
Speaker 13: to say that the president was making this, up as

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01:20:22,680 --> 01:20:25,280
Speaker 13: so many people. Did but the notion here being a

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01:20:25,320 --> 01:20:27,320
Speaker 13: bandied about by his critics is one that he was

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01:20:27,680 --> 01:20:30,719
Speaker 13: desperate for diplomatic off ramp and is, testing for, example

1358
01:20:30,800 --> 01:20:34,360
Speaker 13: the prospects for, diplomacy which is not necessarily a mark

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01:20:34,640 --> 01:20:40,479
Speaker 13: of capitulation or. Pusillanimity it's merely an avenue to explore

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01:20:41,200 --> 01:20:44,200
Speaker 13: an end to this, conflict which is again not pursuing,

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01:20:44,240 --> 01:20:47,280
Speaker 13: it but identifying. It that others said he was manipulating

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01:20:47,320 --> 01:20:49,439
Speaker 13: oil markets because of what he. Says the war is

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01:20:49,439 --> 01:20:51,679
Speaker 13: going to end all of a, Sudden all the horrible

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01:20:51,720 --> 01:20:53,280
Speaker 13: things that we're hearing about are happening to the oil,

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01:20:53,320 --> 01:20:55,479
Speaker 13: markets which are going to persist for, decades disappear in the,

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01:20:55,560 --> 01:20:58,720
Speaker 13: markets and oil In West texas crew go back to

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01:20:59,320 --> 01:21:03,320
Speaker 13: normal range, prices and the presidents he has the capacity

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01:21:03,360 --> 01:21:05,920
Speaker 13: to do that with a true social, post but he

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01:21:05,960 --> 01:21:07,840
Speaker 13: won't have the capacity to do that forever the market

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Speaker 13: price is in.

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Speaker 3: Jaw boning like that if it is jaw.

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Speaker 13: Bonding but there are other possibilities. Too some have suggested

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01:21:15,400 --> 01:21:17,800
Speaker 13: that The president could be sowing dissension within the ranks

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01:21:17,840 --> 01:21:21,559
Speaker 13: of whatever remains of the, leadership selling, paranoia getting them

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01:21:21,600 --> 01:21:23,599
Speaker 13: to think that some people are talking to The, americans

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01:21:23,640 --> 01:21:25,280
Speaker 13: maybe my brothers in arms are going to sell me.

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01:21:25,400 --> 01:21:28,560
Speaker 13: Out or maybe he's stalling for time so that this

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01:21:28,760 --> 01:21:31,439
Speaker 13: eighty Second airborne and the marine expeditionary units that are

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01:21:31,520 --> 01:21:33,920
Speaker 13: en route to The Middle east get there and stand

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01:21:33,960 --> 01:21:37,200
Speaker 13: preposition ahead and give the president options for ground operations

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01:21:37,240 --> 01:21:40,040
Speaker 13: and islands in The persian. Gulf all of these could be.

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01:21:40,120 --> 01:21:43,439
Speaker 13: True at the same, time none of them could be.

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01:21:43,600 --> 01:21:47,400
Speaker 13: True we have no idea and no capacity to evaluate

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01:21:47,800 --> 01:21:49,800
Speaker 13: whether or not this is. TRUE a little bit of

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01:21:49,880 --> 01:21:53,120
Speaker 13: epistemological humility would be desirable on the part of the

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01:21:53,160 --> 01:21:56,160
Speaker 13: people who are trying to assess the information, environment WHICH

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01:21:56,200 --> 01:21:59,520
Speaker 13: i guarantee you is deliberately saturated right now with misdirection

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01:22:00,160 --> 01:22:03,439
Speaker 13: design not only to misdirect, us but to misdirect our enemies.

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01:22:03,479 --> 01:22:05,600
Speaker 13: Abroad and that's the sort of thing that's difficult for

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01:22:05,680 --> 01:22:07,640
Speaker 13: reporters to. Assess they're just giving you the, facts, right

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01:22:07,720 --> 01:22:08,880
Speaker 13: so they have to relate.

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Speaker 3: Every one of these little.

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01:22:11,600 --> 01:22:16,680
Speaker 13: Whether it's true or, not you, know the efforts to manipulate, individuals,

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01:22:16,720 --> 01:22:19,960
Speaker 13: combatants noncombatants through the information. Environment let me and, so,

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01:22:20,200 --> 01:22:22,240
Speaker 13: yeah we just can't can't assess. It but you don't

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01:22:22,240 --> 01:22:24,400
Speaker 13: see that kind of humility from people who are desperate

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01:22:25,120 --> 01:22:27,160
Speaker 13: for evidence That Donald trump is messing this whole thing.

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01:22:27,240 --> 01:22:29,880
Speaker 2: Up let, ME i want to rephrase, it because very

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01:22:29,920 --> 01:22:35,600
Speaker 2: few people are using epistemological, humility and let's change it

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01:22:35,680 --> 01:22:38,360
Speaker 2: to something that we would say on the. Streets it's

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01:22:38,560 --> 01:22:40,800
Speaker 2: very okay for the president of The United, states the

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01:22:40,840 --> 01:22:44,320
Speaker 2: commander in chief to engage in open deception with the

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01:22:44,520 --> 01:22:45,840
Speaker 2: enemy so we can get a better.

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01:22:45,920 --> 01:22:47,680
Speaker 3: Result that's the argument and.

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01:22:47,840 --> 01:22:50,799
Speaker 2: The idea that we are not told exactly what the endgame,

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01:22:50,960 --> 01:22:52,720
Speaker 2: is when the endgame, happens and.

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01:22:52,760 --> 01:22:54,120
Speaker 3: How everything's gnet wrapped up in a.

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01:22:54,160 --> 01:22:58,320
Speaker 2: Bow that's real, life a real, politique as opposed to

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01:22:58,439 --> 01:23:01,240
Speaker 2: what the left, wants which is somehow everything plays out

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01:23:01,240 --> 01:23:02,040
Speaker 2: beautifully like in a.

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Speaker 13: Book, yeah it's our video. Game nobodeople have just don't

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01:23:06,760 --> 01:23:08,839
Speaker 13: really understand what it's like to win a war anymore

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01:23:08,840 --> 01:23:11,720
Speaker 13: because we don't fight to win. Wars but even when

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01:23:11,760 --> 01:23:13,840
Speaker 13: we were fighting for a, draw like go back to

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01:23:13,880 --> 01:23:17,160
Speaker 13: the nineteen ninety one Go, forth we lost like fifty

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01:23:17,240 --> 01:23:21,080
Speaker 13: six wing aircraft in that. Contest we destroyed our rack's

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01:23:21,120 --> 01:23:24,920
Speaker 13: capacity to generate power the entire country. Dark that was

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01:23:25,040 --> 01:23:26,160
Speaker 13: just how wars.

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01:23:25,880 --> 01:23:27,560
Speaker 3: Were, fought and it was bloody and it was.

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Speaker 13: Brutal we have people who were shot, down we had

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01:23:29,280 --> 01:23:30,880
Speaker 13: people who were, killed we had people who are. Captured

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01:23:31,520 --> 01:23:33,479
Speaker 13: none of that has happened in this, war and we

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01:23:33,600 --> 01:23:36,400
Speaker 13: expect war to be some sort of antiseptic. Experience now

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01:23:36,800 --> 01:23:39,880
Speaker 13: that lasts for twelve hours or, so and it's an

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01:23:39,960 --> 01:23:43,640
Speaker 13: incredible triumphant. Experience so you think we're the aliens From Independence,

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01:23:43,720 --> 01:23:45,920
Speaker 13: Day like if anybody lays a finger on, us it's

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01:23:46,000 --> 01:23:51,320
Speaker 13: mark of impossible strategic. Failure it's very, strange but it's

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01:23:51,320 --> 01:23:55,320
Speaker 13: also reflective of just how how much The american people

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01:23:55,320 --> 01:23:59,439
Speaker 13: are just not acclimated to an, actual real war fought

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01:23:59,560 --> 01:24:03,080
Speaker 13: to it a strategic objective looks like it looks like

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01:24:03,120 --> 01:24:05,439
Speaker 13: the wars That israel have been fighting Since october, seven

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Speaker 13: twenty twenty. Three and that's the kind of war we're.

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01:24:07,800 --> 01:24:10,639
Speaker 13: Fighting we're fighting a war on An israeli style, term

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01:24:11,080 --> 01:24:14,040
Speaker 13: and it's actually being very. Successful and that's freaking people.

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Speaker 2: Out talking To Noah rothman Of National, review his latest,

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Speaker 2: Book blood And, PROGRESS A century Of Left Wing, violence

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Speaker 2: will be available At amazon dot com wherever five books

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Speaker 2: are Sold may of twenty twenty, Six you bring Up israel.

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Speaker 3: Fighting it in this, way which is fighting to a

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01:24:34,240 --> 01:24:35,800
Speaker 3: win or to a.

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01:24:35,960 --> 01:24:40,400
Speaker 2: VICTORY i agree wholeheartedly that we have forgotten what victory looks.

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01:24:40,479 --> 01:24:43,160
Speaker 2: Like since we live in a broadband, world we expect

1443
01:24:43,240 --> 01:24:47,240
Speaker 2: things to happen at a broadband. Speed can any part

1444
01:24:47,439 --> 01:24:51,839
Speaker 2: of the regime exist and THE us call it victory

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01:24:51,960 --> 01:24:54,400
Speaker 2: For President trump victory is you, know the first two

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01:24:54,479 --> 01:24:56,599
Speaker 2: rules of Trump. Ism the first rule Is trump, wins

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01:24:56,880 --> 01:24:58,439
Speaker 2: and the second rule of Trump ism is that a

1448
01:24:58,520 --> 01:25:00,759
Speaker 2: deal can always be made as long as it adheres

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01:25:00,800 --> 01:25:03,639
Speaker 2: to the first rule of Trump. Ism so that allows

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01:25:03,680 --> 01:25:05,760
Speaker 2: the president to, say at any, moment we did what

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01:25:05,880 --> 01:25:06,280
Speaker 2: we came to.

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01:25:06,360 --> 01:25:09,639
Speaker 3: Do we're. Done but if the regime remains in any,

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01:25:09,720 --> 01:25:11,160
Speaker 3: way is that?

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01:25:11,360 --> 01:25:16,519
Speaker 13: Success, Well, so given your stipulation there that the president

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01:25:16,680 --> 01:25:19,439
Speaker 13: reserves the right to declare victory and retreat at any

1456
01:25:19,520 --> 01:25:22,040
Speaker 13: point in this, conflict you can't rule that.

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01:25:22,160 --> 01:25:24,120
Speaker 3: OUT i do not want to rule that, out.

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01:25:24,640 --> 01:25:26,800
Speaker 13: AND i think it's wise to keep in. Mind the

1459
01:25:26,880 --> 01:25:30,559
Speaker 13: prospect that the president will disengage before we've achieved our

1460
01:25:30,640 --> 01:25:33,320
Speaker 13: tactical and strategic objectives in the combat.

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01:25:32,960 --> 01:25:34,519
Speaker 3: Phase of this war totally.

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01:25:34,600 --> 01:25:40,280
Speaker 13: Possible, however everybody in this administration with stars and, stripes

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01:25:40,280 --> 01:25:42,680
Speaker 13: stripes on their, shoulders stars and their, epulets have been

1464
01:25:42,800 --> 01:25:46,680
Speaker 13: very clear and have not changed their forecast for how

1465
01:25:46,760 --> 01:25:49,360
Speaker 13: this war was going to unfold and in folds in.

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01:25:49,400 --> 01:25:52,439
Speaker 13: Stages the first stage was to Attack iran's capacity to project,

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01:25:52,520 --> 01:25:55,920
Speaker 13: power it's active military. Assets the second, stage which we're

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01:25:55,960 --> 01:25:59,960
Speaker 13: in right, now is to Decimate iran's capacity to build military,

1469
01:26:00,240 --> 01:26:04,080
Speaker 13: assets it's military production, facilities its defense industrial. Base all the,

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01:26:04,120 --> 01:26:07,080
Speaker 13: while by the, Way israel is attacking regime, targets symbols

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01:26:07,120 --> 01:26:10,240
Speaker 13: of regime, stability the terror, apparatus THE, irgce the, besiege

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01:26:10,280 --> 01:26:12,280
Speaker 13: the stuff that keeps The iranian people down or shot

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01:26:12,320 --> 01:26:16,040
Speaker 13: in the. Streets the third stage is always and was

1474
01:26:16,080 --> 01:26:19,040
Speaker 13: always going to look like defeat for people who want

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01:26:19,120 --> 01:26:23,240
Speaker 13: to see a triumphant, moment a definitive point at which

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01:26:23,280 --> 01:26:25,360
Speaker 13: The United states can look at the ground and, say,

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01:26:25,439 --> 01:26:29,240
Speaker 13: okay we. Won it was going to be a negotiated

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01:26:29,320 --> 01:26:33,240
Speaker 13: settlement with somebody who can claim to represent The iranian,

1479
01:26:33,320 --> 01:26:36,519
Speaker 13: people whether it's the remnants of The Islamic, republic whether

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01:26:36,600 --> 01:26:40,320
Speaker 13: it's some transitional figure who knows that was never part

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01:26:40,360 --> 01:26:43,320
Speaker 13: of the, plan never, explode you, know never elucidated precisely

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01:26:43,400 --> 01:26:45,559
Speaker 13: who that figure, was because we didn't know that figure

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01:26:45,680 --> 01:26:48,200
Speaker 13: was going to. Be but when that, happens and it

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01:26:48,240 --> 01:26:52,560
Speaker 13: will be a negotiated settlement with whatever, remains then you

1485
01:26:52,680 --> 01:26:55,439
Speaker 13: move on to phase, three which is the quiet process

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01:26:55,479 --> 01:26:59,160
Speaker 13: of undermining this regime from. Within and everybody has said

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01:26:59,560 --> 01:27:04,200
Speaker 13: the THE Idf benjamin And Yahoo Brad cooper is the

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01:27:04,240 --> 01:27:07,080
Speaker 13: head Of, sentcom who said as much this. Week. Quote

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01:27:07,320 --> 01:27:09,320
Speaker 13: there will be a clear signal at some, point as

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01:27:09,360 --> 01:27:11,559
Speaker 13: The president has indicated for you to be able to come,

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01:27:11,600 --> 01:27:13,640
Speaker 13: out he told The iranian. People in an interview with

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01:27:13,880 --> 01:27:19,080
Speaker 13: An iranian diaspora, outlet he, said this time has not come,

1493
01:27:19,200 --> 01:27:22,120
Speaker 13: yet but it. Will and all the reporting that we

1494
01:27:22,200 --> 01:27:24,120
Speaker 13: have FROM, npr from The New York, post which has

1495
01:27:24,160 --> 01:27:26,160
Speaker 13: gotten in touch With iranians on the ground is The

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01:27:26,200 --> 01:27:28,320
Speaker 13: iranian people are waiting for the, signal and they are.

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01:27:28,439 --> 01:27:31,320
Speaker 13: Primed and who knows what we're doing on the ground

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01:27:31,360 --> 01:27:35,200
Speaker 13: in order to facilitate the arming of potentially insurrectionary, elements

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01:27:35,280 --> 01:27:39,639
Speaker 13: the filmenting of a potentially insurrectionary attack on this regime from.

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01:27:39,680 --> 01:27:41,439
Speaker 13: Within that's the sort of thing that we're going to

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01:27:41,479 --> 01:27:44,720
Speaker 13: engineer later after the combat phase is. Over we're still

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01:27:44,760 --> 01:27:46,840
Speaker 13: in the middle of the combat. Phase AND i think

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01:27:46,880 --> 01:27:50,160
Speaker 13: the biggest hurdle right now that everybody acknowledges as the

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01:27:50,160 --> 01:27:52,680
Speaker 13: biggest hurdle is opening The strait of Horm. Moos and

1505
01:27:52,760 --> 01:27:55,200
Speaker 13: there is the sense that if we allow The iranian

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01:27:55,280 --> 01:28:00,120
Speaker 13: regime to maintain even notional control over the, straits that

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01:28:00,200 --> 01:28:02,640
Speaker 13: it's able to extort the ships that come through it

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01:28:02,720 --> 01:28:05,360
Speaker 13: for aon two million dollars, apiece for, example which is

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01:28:05,400 --> 01:28:07,759
Speaker 13: what they're doing. Now that it will be a strategic,

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01:28:07,880 --> 01:28:11,000
Speaker 13: loss AND i think it will be a strategic, setback.

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01:28:10,600 --> 01:28:12,400
Speaker 3: An ambiguous end to this.

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01:28:12,600 --> 01:28:14,960
Speaker 13: War AND i don't think it's going to end, there

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01:28:15,600 --> 01:28:18,000
Speaker 13: but it, could and if it, did it would not

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01:28:18,160 --> 01:28:20,920
Speaker 13: it would fall short of all of our key objectives most.

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01:28:20,960 --> 01:28:23,320
Speaker 13: Certainly but the notion here That iran is going to

1516
01:28:23,400 --> 01:28:25,920
Speaker 13: emerge from, this as so many say That iran is

1517
01:28:25,960 --> 01:28:29,479
Speaker 13: going to emerge from this, stronger more, emboldened more of

1518
01:28:29,560 --> 01:28:35,880
Speaker 13: a regional, power it's. Insane it's, incredible literally. Incredible the

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01:28:35,960 --> 01:28:38,759
Speaker 13: notion here That iran will emerge as this more potent

1520
01:28:38,920 --> 01:28:41,559
Speaker 13: force in The Middle east even when all its military

1521
01:28:41,600 --> 01:28:45,559
Speaker 13: and military industrial complexes are destroyed is. Bizarre the notion

1522
01:28:45,680 --> 01:28:47,160
Speaker 13: here that it will be a more potent force in

1523
01:28:47,200 --> 01:28:50,160
Speaker 13: the region even as it has arrayed the Entire Middle

1524
01:28:50,160 --> 01:28:50,839
Speaker 13: east against.

1525
01:28:50,920 --> 01:28:50,960
Speaker 12: It.

1526
01:28:51,600 --> 01:28:55,280
Speaker 13: Openly you have THE uae and The Saudi arabians flirting

1527
01:28:55,400 --> 01:28:58,160
Speaker 13: with active combat operations Against, iran to say nothing of

1528
01:28:58,200 --> 01:29:01,160
Speaker 13: what they're doing behind the. Scenes Entire golf and The Middle,

1529
01:29:01,200 --> 01:29:06,439
Speaker 13: east including places Like, Syria, Jordan, egypt all these places

1530
01:29:06,479 --> 01:29:09,360
Speaker 13: are turning against The uranium regime they've always, had they

1531
01:29:09,400 --> 01:29:11,360
Speaker 13: haven't had exactly had a soft spot for The, mulas

1532
01:29:11,920 --> 01:29:14,040
Speaker 13: but it's been sort of a cat and mouse. Game

1533
01:29:14,280 --> 01:29:17,920
Speaker 13: little subterfuge, here allow these front companies to exist there

1534
01:29:18,280 --> 01:29:19,559
Speaker 13: so they can evade sanctions.

1535
01:29:19,640 --> 01:29:21,760
Speaker 3: Here all that stuff is, gone it's not coming.

1536
01:29:21,840 --> 01:29:23,880
Speaker 13: Back The iranian regime is as weak as it's ever

1537
01:29:23,960 --> 01:29:24,920
Speaker 13: been and will continue to be.

1538
01:29:24,920 --> 01:29:25,439
Speaker 3: Weak after this.

1539
01:29:25,600 --> 01:29:27,439
Speaker 13: War and it's just it makes no sense to me

1540
01:29:27,520 --> 01:29:30,559
Speaker 13: that so many people are resistant to this obvious, Notion

1541
01:29:31,320 --> 01:29:34,280
Speaker 13: like the argument against it just is very difficult to,

1542
01:29:34,360 --> 01:29:36,240
Speaker 13: make and yet you see so many making.

1543
01:29:36,040 --> 01:29:38,519
Speaker 3: It more With Noah rothman coming, up keep it. Here

1544
01:29:38,600 --> 01:29:40,759
Speaker 3: I'm Tony. Katz this Is Tony Katz.

1545
01:29:40,800 --> 01:29:43,679
Speaker 2: Today there's a story out Of Fox news That david

1546
01:29:43,840 --> 01:29:47,000
Speaker 2: busters one of their, locations maybe not the whole, company

1547
01:29:48,320 --> 01:29:53,280
Speaker 2: tips are being applied to the post tax. Total Tony,

1548
01:29:53,360 --> 01:29:54,400
Speaker 2: Katz tony kats.

1549
01:29:54,400 --> 01:29:55,200
Speaker 3: Today that is not.

1550
01:29:55,439 --> 01:29:59,040
Speaker 2: RIGHT i do not tip on tax, i tip on

1551
01:29:59,479 --> 01:30:02,000
Speaker 2: whether or not get good. Service and the idea, is,

1552
01:30:02,040 --> 01:30:05,720
Speaker 2: well here's the bill and then it's fifteen percent of the. Bill, well,

1553
01:30:05,800 --> 01:30:08,960
Speaker 2: really now twenty? PERCENT i mean everyone is tipping twenty.

1554
01:30:09,000 --> 01:30:10,880
Speaker 2: Percent you, may you may tip, less you may tip.

1555
01:30:11,000 --> 01:30:14,200
Speaker 2: More my problem is is when you're in a you're

1556
01:30:14,320 --> 01:30:15,840
Speaker 2: using a, kioska would you like to leave a?

1557
01:30:15,920 --> 01:30:17,240
Speaker 3: Tip no convenience. Store.

1558
01:30:17,360 --> 01:30:20,880
Speaker 2: No the overtipping is. Madness but this is an interesting.

1559
01:30:21,000 --> 01:30:25,400
Speaker 2: Thing you want to apply a tip to the? Tax,

1560
01:30:26,320 --> 01:30:30,080
Speaker 2: NO i don't tip the. Government as a matter of,

1561
01:30:30,160 --> 01:30:33,000
Speaker 2: fact the idea of tipping the government is exactly what's

1562
01:30:33,040 --> 01:30:37,200
Speaker 2: wrong with a great number of. Societies but that's an

1563
01:30:37,320 --> 01:30:43,200
Speaker 2: ugly thing to. Do and, if if Indeed David busters

1564
01:30:43,280 --> 01:30:46,920
Speaker 2: is doing, that that's a reason not to. Go And

1565
01:30:47,000 --> 01:30:48,400
Speaker 2: i'm not an Anti David buster's.

1566
01:30:48,479 --> 01:30:49,160
Speaker 3: Guy it's.

1567
01:30:49,240 --> 01:30:53,200
Speaker 2: Fun there's arcade games for, adults arcade games and. Beer

1568
01:30:53,360 --> 01:30:58,519
Speaker 2: what could go wrong aside from, Everything but this tipping

1569
01:30:58,600 --> 01:31:02,559
Speaker 2: culture is. Nuts not everything deserves a. Tip it certainly

1570
01:31:02,600 --> 01:31:05,759
Speaker 2: doesn't deserve twenty or twenty five percent at all. Times

1571
01:31:07,800 --> 01:31:11,559
Speaker 2: but tip on the. Tax that's something to look out.

1572
01:31:11,600 --> 01:31:13,400
Speaker 2: For you know how many times that's probably happening out

1573
01:31:13,439 --> 01:31:15,320
Speaker 2: there and people don't know it and they just do,

1574
01:31:15,479 --> 01:31:18,000
Speaker 2: it or somebody's getting added into the. Billin people don't

1575
01:31:18,000 --> 01:31:20,720
Speaker 2: really check check it's your, Money it's. Okay it's not,

1576
01:31:20,880 --> 01:31:25,000
Speaker 2: rude and if the service is Good tip, twelve that

1577
01:31:25,080 --> 01:31:28,120
Speaker 2: would be me more to get. To I'm Tony katz

1578
01:31:28,160 --> 01:31:35,560
Speaker 2: than this Is Tony katz. Today so much of the

1579
01:31:35,920 --> 01:31:37,200
Speaker 2: conflict With iran.

1580
01:31:37,560 --> 01:31:37,760
Speaker 3: War.

1581
01:31:37,920 --> 01:31:40,360
Speaker 2: LISTEN i say it's regime, change because it is regime.

1582
01:31:40,479 --> 01:31:42,840
Speaker 2: CHANGE i think we're fooling, ourselves kidding, ourselves lying to

1583
01:31:42,920 --> 01:31:44,800
Speaker 2: ourselves if we don't call it. That AND i don't

1584
01:31:44,800 --> 01:31:48,040
Speaker 2: believe in doing any of those. Things Tony, Katz tony kats.

1585
01:31:48,080 --> 01:31:49,560
Speaker 2: Today good to be, Here good to be with. You

1586
01:31:49,920 --> 01:31:54,240
Speaker 2: Noah rothman stays with us From National. Review his Book

1587
01:31:54,479 --> 01:31:57,679
Speaker 2: blood And, PROGRESS A century Of Left Wing, violence available

1588
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Speaker 2: At amazon dot com wherever fine books are, sold that

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Speaker 2: will be In may of twenty twenty. Sixth you can

1590
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Speaker 2: pre order right. Now blood In, progress A century Of

1591
01:32:05,640 --> 01:32:08,360
Speaker 2: Left Wing. Violence one of the things that you said

1592
01:32:08,400 --> 01:32:12,080
Speaker 2: earlier was about how The United states is engaging in

1593
01:32:12,280 --> 01:32:17,040
Speaker 2: taking out The iranian regime in An israeli, way and you,

1594
01:32:17,160 --> 01:32:21,799
Speaker 2: noted and we've discussed it here, before that Since october,

1595
01:32:21,920 --> 01:32:25,280
Speaker 2: Seventh israel has defied all the critics and all the

1596
01:32:25,360 --> 01:32:26,320
Speaker 2: standard norms of.

1597
01:32:26,320 --> 01:32:26,800
Speaker 3: How they did.

1598
01:32:26,920 --> 01:32:29,280
Speaker 2: Things they'd drop a few, bombs they'd get angry and

1599
01:32:29,320 --> 01:32:30,479
Speaker 2: then they'd have to relent.

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01:32:30,320 --> 01:32:30,880
Speaker 3: Because of world.

1601
01:32:31,000 --> 01:32:35,040
Speaker 2: Pressure Post october, seventh there was no. Relenting AND i

1602
01:32:35,320 --> 01:32:38,160
Speaker 2: was In israel some months After october, seventh and it

1603
01:32:38,240 --> 01:32:39,880
Speaker 2: was very clear from people you speak to on the

1604
01:32:39,880 --> 01:32:43,559
Speaker 2: streets and the feel of that nation as you observe

1605
01:32:44,200 --> 01:32:48,880
Speaker 2: they were done every try they gave to The, palestinians

1606
01:32:48,960 --> 01:32:52,280
Speaker 2: every attempt they gave to build up areas around The gaza.

1607
01:32:52,400 --> 01:32:56,439
Speaker 2: Envelope those mayors who wanted to build factories and create,

1608
01:32:56,479 --> 01:33:01,080
Speaker 2: opportunities and they would, kibbutzis would go Into gaza and

1609
01:33:01,200 --> 01:33:03,599
Speaker 2: bring people back to. Work, well those are the people

1610
01:33:03,640 --> 01:33:05,800
Speaker 2: who laid out what was happening in the kibbutz, is.

1611
01:33:05,800 --> 01:33:08,960
Speaker 3: Where the armory, was where people, were where the families, were.

1612
01:33:08,960 --> 01:33:12,280
Speaker 2: Etc So hamas And palestinians could go in and murder

1613
01:33:12,360 --> 01:33:15,280
Speaker 2: everyone they. Saw it was those people who The israelis

1614
01:33:15,320 --> 01:33:19,040
Speaker 2: were trying to help that helped map out how to kill.

1615
01:33:19,120 --> 01:33:21,760
Speaker 2: Them And israeli, said we've had enough. Here and that

1616
01:33:21,920 --> 01:33:23,800
Speaker 2: has been true and that has gone, on and that

1617
01:33:23,920 --> 01:33:26,240
Speaker 2: is what's created so much angst amongst the left in

1618
01:33:26,320 --> 01:33:29,960
Speaker 2: screaming of, genocide. Etc they can't accept the fact That

1619
01:33:30,120 --> 01:33:33,439
Speaker 2: israel wouldn't take. It but it's an interesting statement from.

1620
01:33:33,479 --> 01:33:37,240
Speaker 2: YOU i had not considered this thought process that The

1621
01:33:37,360 --> 01:33:40,519
Speaker 2: United states is doing this in An israeli. Way but

1622
01:33:40,640 --> 01:33:44,080
Speaker 2: we also discuss how many people are rooting For President

1623
01:33:44,120 --> 01:33:47,800
Speaker 2: trump to. Fail If israel wasn't, involved if this wasn't

1624
01:33:47,840 --> 01:33:50,360
Speaker 2: A Us israel, operation but it was A US uk,

1625
01:33:50,600 --> 01:33:53,200
Speaker 2: operation or pick another nation or just The United, states

1626
01:33:54,080 --> 01:33:56,640
Speaker 2: would these same leftists and people on the wok right

1627
01:33:56,840 --> 01:33:58,160
Speaker 2: be rooting For trump to?

1628
01:33:58,240 --> 01:34:02,920
Speaker 13: Fail, YEAH i think, so because it has very. LITTLE i,

1629
01:34:02,960 --> 01:34:08,200
Speaker 13: mean their antipathy To israel is, total but their antipathy

1630
01:34:08,280 --> 01:34:11,120
Speaker 13: to The west and The west as represented by the

1631
01:34:11,200 --> 01:34:14,679
Speaker 13: prima inter paris The United states Of, america the foremost

1632
01:34:14,760 --> 01:34:18,879
Speaker 13: exemplar of the capitalist world is it was always a permanent.

1633
01:34:18,960 --> 01:34:20,800
Speaker 3: Factor and you, know you.

1634
01:34:20,840 --> 01:34:23,560
Speaker 13: Can go back to the seventies and the sixties and

1635
01:34:23,680 --> 01:34:26,680
Speaker 13: even the early nineteen eighties for the origins of this

1636
01:34:26,920 --> 01:34:34,360
Speaker 13: kind Of marxian, approach to the evolution of lestling militancy

1637
01:34:34,520 --> 01:34:40,240
Speaker 13: From marxian insurgents to Pan arab nationalists To islamist theocrats

1638
01:34:40,240 --> 01:34:43,080
Speaker 13: as they gravitated towards The Islamic. Revolution all this is

1639
01:34:43,200 --> 01:34:45,560
Speaker 13: very well. DOCUMENTED i actually wrote a review For commentary

1640
01:34:45,600 --> 01:34:48,720
Speaker 13: About Jason burks on this. Phenomenon The, revolutionists very good

1641
01:34:48,760 --> 01:34:53,320
Speaker 13: book on the bizarre evolution of the far left hostility

1642
01:34:53,360 --> 01:34:56,120
Speaker 13: to the capitalist, world manifesting in support for The cuban

1643
01:34:56,200 --> 01:34:58,400
Speaker 13: regime and The cuban regime support for The islamist. Regime

1644
01:34:58,479 --> 01:35:00,800
Speaker 13: all these guys are connected in. Ways that's that you

1645
01:35:00,840 --> 01:35:03,240
Speaker 13: would if you didn't know the actual history of, it

1646
01:35:03,280 --> 01:35:06,439
Speaker 13: you'd be called a conspiracy theorists for identifying all these

1647
01:35:06,680 --> 01:35:10,000
Speaker 13: all these. CONNECTIONS i will, say you stipulated that After october, Seventh,

1648
01:35:10,479 --> 01:35:12,840
Speaker 13: israel you, know took the gloves off and was not.

1649
01:35:13,040 --> 01:35:16,439
Speaker 13: Constrained that is not. True it was constrained by The biden.

1650
01:35:16,439 --> 01:35:19,880
Speaker 13: Administration for, example it did not go Into conunis when

1651
01:35:19,920 --> 01:35:21,840
Speaker 13: it wanted. To when it eventually, did it did so

1652
01:35:22,360 --> 01:35:25,200
Speaker 13: in defiance of The biden, administration where they eventually captured

1653
01:35:25,200 --> 01:35:27,760
Speaker 13: and killed the Yak yat Sin, war but they were

1654
01:35:27,800 --> 01:35:28,559
Speaker 13: prevented from doing.

1655
01:35:28,600 --> 01:35:29,080
Speaker 3: So and that's.

1656
01:35:29,120 --> 01:35:32,160
Speaker 13: Typical The United states puts the reins On. Israel The

1657
01:35:32,200 --> 01:35:36,440
Speaker 13: bush administration, did The obama administration certainly, did The biden administration,

1658
01:35:36,560 --> 01:35:39,200
Speaker 13: did and Even trump one point zero was you, know

1659
01:35:39,680 --> 01:35:42,479
Speaker 13: cagey about the extent to which it was supporting and

1660
01:35:42,680 --> 01:35:46,439
Speaker 13: the flourishing of what would eventually become The Abraham, accords because.

1661
01:35:46,200 --> 01:35:46,719
Speaker 3: It was a fraud.

1662
01:35:46,760 --> 01:35:50,599
Speaker 13: Project not so after twenty twenty. Five, Yes Donald trump

1663
01:35:50,640 --> 01:35:53,960
Speaker 13: took the gloves. Off, yes prosecuted these wars Alongside israel

1664
01:35:54,800 --> 01:35:57,600
Speaker 13: in ways That israel would recognize as the way you

1665
01:35:57,720 --> 01:36:01,600
Speaker 13: fight to. Victory that's a very new. Development but you,

1666
01:36:01,680 --> 01:36:04,439
Speaker 13: know Is israel to blame for the hostility That Donald

1667
01:36:04,479 --> 01:36:07,559
Speaker 13: trump is experiencing from the international, press the international. Left,

1668
01:36:07,760 --> 01:36:10,160
Speaker 13: NOW i really don't think. SO i think we would

1669
01:36:10,160 --> 01:36:12,880
Speaker 13: have experienced this exact same phenomenon as we did after

1670
01:36:12,960 --> 01:36:14,679
Speaker 13: The Iraq. War and in the middle of The Iraq,

1671
01:36:14,720 --> 01:36:17,880
Speaker 13: war whin The bush administration handcuffed The, israelis and The

1672
01:36:17,960 --> 01:36:20,000
Speaker 13: israelis didn't want us to go Into. Iraq they, said

1673
01:36:20,040 --> 01:36:22,280
Speaker 13: focus On, iran that's the head of the. Snake and

1674
01:36:22,360 --> 01:36:25,240
Speaker 13: they were also very cage and leary about experiencing A

1675
01:36:25,320 --> 01:36:29,400
Speaker 13: Gulf war style attack When Sam hussein's regime drops scud

1676
01:36:29,439 --> 01:36:33,439
Speaker 13: missiles On israelis and they were prevented from, Responding they

1677
01:36:33,520 --> 01:36:36,000
Speaker 13: were not allowed to respond By GEORGE. W bush's, administration

1678
01:36:36,080 --> 01:36:38,080
Speaker 13: and they did not want to repeat that. Experience So

1679
01:36:38,439 --> 01:36:40,719
Speaker 13: america's relationship With israel has been a lot more fraud

1680
01:36:41,160 --> 01:36:43,639
Speaker 13: than it was than it has been Under trump two point.

1681
01:36:43,760 --> 01:36:46,840
Speaker 13: Zero and The american left well hostile To israel and

1682
01:36:46,880 --> 01:36:51,759
Speaker 13: The zionist project, generally going to This marxian origin story

1683
01:36:51,800 --> 01:36:55,200
Speaker 13: in the nineteen seventies and nineteen eighties is more hostile

1684
01:36:55,280 --> 01:36:58,240
Speaker 13: To washington and more hostile to The United states because

1685
01:36:58,280 --> 01:37:01,240
Speaker 13: it is the foremost power in the world that exemplifies

1686
01:37:01,280 --> 01:37:05,120
Speaker 13: hostility to the socialist project and the international anti Colonialist,

1687
01:37:05,200 --> 01:37:08,000
Speaker 13: project which by the, way are pretty much the exact same,

1688
01:37:08,040 --> 01:37:08,799
Speaker 13: thing different.

1689
01:37:08,840 --> 01:37:13,559
Speaker 2: Derbiage so now take, that put it to the, side

1690
01:37:13,600 --> 01:37:15,760
Speaker 2: but just uses a bit of kind of a.

1691
01:37:15,880 --> 01:37:18,640
Speaker 3: Baseline let's move this into the.

1692
01:37:18,640 --> 01:37:23,120
Speaker 2: Woke, right we can call That Candice, Owens Tucker, Carlson Megan,

1693
01:37:23,240 --> 01:37:30,000
Speaker 2: Kelly Alex, jones these people who are telling us That

1694
01:37:30,320 --> 01:37:33,960
Speaker 2: trump was dragged into this By, israel as opposed to

1695
01:37:34,520 --> 01:37:39,599
Speaker 2: how you're discussing things That israel's often constrained by The United.

1696
01:37:39,600 --> 01:37:42,960
Speaker 2: States it doesn't actually go the other way. Around and

1697
01:37:43,120 --> 01:37:47,240
Speaker 2: then we get INTO. Jd vance and a lot of

1698
01:37:47,280 --> 01:37:52,000
Speaker 2: people for months now been discussing that Jd vance's relationship

1699
01:37:52,040 --> 01:37:53,920
Speaker 2: With Tucker carlson is going to hurt him in a

1700
01:37:54,000 --> 01:37:56,920
Speaker 2: general come twenty twenty. Eight other people say that Jd

1701
01:37:57,120 --> 01:38:00,759
Speaker 2: vance is the guy that of the wok right because

1702
01:38:00,800 --> 01:38:04,560
Speaker 2: he understands that this relationship With israel is leading To america's.

1703
01:38:05,320 --> 01:38:09,200
Speaker 2: DOWNFALL i argue that we see people in the, Medium

1704
01:38:09,240 --> 01:38:11,479
Speaker 2: we see the wolk right pushing this idea that we're,

1705
01:38:11,520 --> 01:38:13,479
Speaker 2: losing or we're, failing or they want to See trump,

1706
01:38:13,600 --> 01:38:14,280
Speaker 2: lose and it is.

1707
01:38:14,720 --> 01:38:15,679
Speaker 3: A wholly Un american.

1708
01:38:15,760 --> 01:38:19,360
Speaker 2: Proposition it's said very, generally and that what they are

1709
01:38:19,439 --> 01:38:22,000
Speaker 2: looking for is for us to learn our lesson that

1710
01:38:22,080 --> 01:38:22,479
Speaker 2: we should.

1711
01:38:22,520 --> 01:38:24,080
Speaker 3: Be you might refer to it as.

1712
01:38:24,160 --> 01:38:27,280
Speaker 2: ISOLATIONIST i would refer to it as we can't get

1713
01:38:27,360 --> 01:38:31,519
Speaker 2: involved in these, entanglements even when removal of terrorism is

1714
01:38:31,640 --> 01:38:36,479
Speaker 2: clearly to our. Benefit Is Jade vanson in between a

1715
01:38:36,600 --> 01:38:38,439
Speaker 2: rock and a hard? Place or did he put himself?

1716
01:38:38,520 --> 01:38:40,680
Speaker 3: There i'll put it this.

1717
01:38:40,840 --> 01:38:45,160
Speaker 13: Way there is a large contingent within The United states

1718
01:38:45,320 --> 01:38:48,880
Speaker 13: that does want to see a humbler foreign policy has for.

1719
01:38:49,160 --> 01:38:51,840
Speaker 13: Generations this is What GEORGE. W bush ran on in

1720
01:38:51,880 --> 01:38:55,960
Speaker 13: the year two. Thousand but there's a smaller contingent within

1721
01:38:56,120 --> 01:38:59,400
Speaker 13: that broader universe that believes that The United states needs a,

1722
01:38:59,439 --> 01:39:02,320
Speaker 13: humbler fallow foreign policy and if it won't execute a

1723
01:39:02,800 --> 01:39:05,919
Speaker 13: humbler foreign policy on its, own it must be. Humbled

1724
01:39:07,200 --> 01:39:10,120
Speaker 13: and the people AROUND Jd vance's camp do seem to

1725
01:39:10,240 --> 01:39:13,160
Speaker 13: be members of that. Contingent we have a piece In

1726
01:39:13,240 --> 01:39:18,479
Speaker 13: axios today that sparked my absolute, frustration a visceral level

1727
01:39:18,520 --> 01:39:21,040
Speaker 13: of hostility to what was coming out OF Jd vance's,

1728
01:39:21,040 --> 01:39:24,800
Speaker 13: allies because they're actively attempting to drive a wedge between

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Speaker 13: The United states And israel in wartime against an implacable.

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Speaker 3: Foe maybe not The.

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01:39:29,520 --> 01:39:33,040
Speaker 13: Vice president, himself but his people are telling Reporters Barack

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01:39:33,120 --> 01:39:36,759
Speaker 13: reviede And Mark puto At axios that The Vice president

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01:39:37,280 --> 01:39:40,640
Speaker 13: is willing to play his, part and he has his

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01:39:40,880 --> 01:39:43,759
Speaker 13: thoughts on this. War we all must be a breast

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01:39:44,080 --> 01:39:47,920
Speaker 13: Of Jade vance's internal torment at this, moment and they

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01:39:48,040 --> 01:39:51,920
Speaker 13: believe that That Benjamin, nia who sort of guld The

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01:39:51,960 --> 01:39:54,920
Speaker 13: president into this, war promised him that this would be

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01:39:55,040 --> 01:39:59,519
Speaker 13: some sort of a very, quick, clean triumphant, campaign which

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01:39:59,600 --> 01:40:02,840
Speaker 13: i we have not heard from public statements from any

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01:40:02,880 --> 01:40:05,879
Speaker 13: of the people who are talking To axios on. Background

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01:40:06,000 --> 01:40:09,880
Speaker 13: off the, record and also that it's An israeli up

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Speaker 13: against gd s aid one administration, official citing claims that

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01:40:13,520 --> 01:40:16,720
Speaker 13: were widely reported on that whatever remnants we're talking to

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01:40:16,880 --> 01:40:20,360
Speaker 13: With iran are interested in negotiating with Jd vance alone

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01:40:20,680 --> 01:40:24,040
Speaker 13: in part because they understand him to be more skeptical

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01:40:24,120 --> 01:40:26,200
Speaker 13: of this. War and they understand him to be more

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01:40:26,240 --> 01:40:28,920
Speaker 13: skeptical of this. War because he's more skeptical of this.

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01:40:29,080 --> 01:40:31,400
Speaker 13: War he has made no secret about. It his allies

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01:40:31,400 --> 01:40:33,719
Speaker 13: have made no secret about. It they Want his brand

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01:40:33,920 --> 01:40:36,439
Speaker 13: was built on the notion that The United states is

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01:40:36,520 --> 01:40:40,280
Speaker 13: over extended abroad and needs to retrench behind its oceans

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01:40:40,400 --> 01:40:42,960
Speaker 13: into its. Shores this is the argument that has been

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01:40:43,000 --> 01:40:46,400
Speaker 13: bandied about by the, restrainers the quote unquote self described

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01:40:46,479 --> 01:40:50,960
Speaker 13: restrainers in The pentagon for, years even before this administration was.

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01:40:51,000 --> 01:40:54,280
Speaker 13: Inaugurated and Jd vance has aligned himself with, them and

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01:40:54,360 --> 01:40:56,320
Speaker 13: now that his stock is, falling and his stock is,

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01:40:56,400 --> 01:40:58,400
Speaker 13: FALLING i don't live Inside, washington BUT i keep my

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01:40:58,479 --> 01:40:59,920
Speaker 13: ear to the, door and it's not hard to hear

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01:41:00,120 --> 01:41:03,200
Speaker 13: or the extent to which people inside The republican orbit

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01:41:03,240 --> 01:41:06,479
Speaker 13: And trump's orbit are losing their taste FOR Jd vance

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01:41:06,600 --> 01:41:09,400
Speaker 13: think he's being upstaged By Marco. Rubio think he's a

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01:41:09,479 --> 01:41:12,559
Speaker 13: worst political. Talent The president himself has said as much

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01:41:12,600 --> 01:41:14,479
Speaker 13: in his unguarded, moments and he's going to say it

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01:41:14,560 --> 01:41:16,640
Speaker 13: louder and as we move, Forward.

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Speaker 3: I'm going to and are panicked about it real.

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Speaker 2: QUICK i think the word on the street is that

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01:41:23,560 --> 01:41:25,960
Speaker 2: they View Marco rubio in higher regard THAN.

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01:41:26,040 --> 01:41:26,200
Speaker 3: Jd.

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Speaker 2: Vans and that's not to say that the, Street midwest

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Speaker 2: Main street VIEWS. Jd vance in a low. Regard BUT

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01:41:33,600 --> 01:41:37,280
Speaker 2: i absolutely wholeheartedly would say if you pulled one hundred

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01:41:37,280 --> 01:41:39,720
Speaker 2: people on the, streets ninety five of them would think

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01:41:39,800 --> 01:41:41,920
Speaker 2: more Of Marco rubio and his presentation Than.

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Speaker 3: VANCE i think that that's an accurate. Assessment, yeah he's

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01:41:45,520 --> 01:41:45,800
Speaker 3: just being.

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Speaker 13: Upstaged and The, president who comes from, television is a television,

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01:41:50,479 --> 01:41:53,080
Speaker 13: critic is very sensitive to the degree to which an

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01:41:53,160 --> 01:41:57,040
Speaker 13: audience perceives, talent and he Sees Marco rubio killing it

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01:41:57,080 --> 01:41:58,040
Speaker 13: and he SEES. Jd vance.

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Speaker 8: Floundering that's just.

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Speaker 3: It everybody.

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01:42:00,520 --> 01:42:02,760
Speaker 13: Does it's not hard to, notice but the people In

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01:42:02,920 --> 01:42:04,800
Speaker 13: jdvance's orbit are freaked out about.

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01:42:04,800 --> 01:42:05,640
Speaker 3: It doly so.

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01:42:05,920 --> 01:42:08,800
Speaker 13: Understandably, so and the way they're going about repairing that

1786
01:42:08,920 --> 01:42:12,360
Speaker 13: damage is to undermine the bilateral relationship between The washington

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01:42:12,400 --> 01:42:17,679
Speaker 13: And jerusalem in wartime that is extremely, reckless extremely, negligent

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01:42:18,080 --> 01:42:23,240
Speaker 13: and so self, centered so sellipsistic as to be contradictory

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01:42:23,280 --> 01:42:27,320
Speaker 13: To american strategic, aims indeed undermining. Them and that's a

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01:42:27,479 --> 01:42:31,160
Speaker 13: really serious allegation That jadvance's people need to really.

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Speaker 2: Consider Noah, Rothman National review dot. Com the Book blood And,

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01:42:38,760 --> 01:42:41,840
Speaker 2: progress essentially of left wing. Violence pre order that At

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Speaker 2: amazon dot, com Available may of twenty twenty. Six, NOAH

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Speaker 2: i appreciate you taking the time more to get to.

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01:42:47,320 --> 01:42:50,400
Speaker 2: This Is Tony katz. Today so we're still engaged in

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01:42:50,520 --> 01:42:54,640
Speaker 2: bombing raids Regarding iran and taking out military, targets.

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01:42:54,439 --> 01:42:56,400
Speaker 3: But President trump has said we're not going to go

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01:42:56,439 --> 01:42:57,719
Speaker 3: after any of the energy.

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01:42:58,520 --> 01:43:01,920
Speaker 2: Targets, meanwhile The senate is going to fund The department

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Speaker 2: Of Homeland, security but they're not going to FUND ice

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01:43:04,400 --> 01:43:07,080
Speaker 2: And Border, patrol even THOUGH ice is already funded through

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01:43:07,120 --> 01:43:10,280
Speaker 2: The One, big beautiful. Bill Yet democrats are claiming they've

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01:43:10,320 --> 01:43:14,280
Speaker 2: got this huge win and crazy to see media although

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01:43:14,439 --> 01:43:16,680
Speaker 2: totally expect to be, like, Oh republicans.

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Speaker 3: CAVED i don't think that's what. Happened although you're very

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01:43:20,400 --> 01:43:22,880
Speaker 3: used To republicans, CAVING i get what you're.

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01:43:22,920 --> 01:43:28,080
Speaker 2: Saying, rather what it looks like is That democrats held

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01:43:28,160 --> 01:43:30,320
Speaker 2: up the country for forty one days and didn't get

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01:43:30,360 --> 01:43:33,719
Speaker 2: a single reform TO, ice and the reforms TO ice

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01:43:33,840 --> 01:43:35,920
Speaker 2: is the only thing they care about because they want

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01:43:36,080 --> 01:43:39,479
Speaker 2: illegal immigrants in the country and, voting and they care

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01:43:39,520 --> 01:43:43,000
Speaker 2: about illegal immigrants more than they care About american. Citizens

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Speaker 2: that's the message they delivered To. America and that's the

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Speaker 2: message THAT i Think america. Took Tony, Katz Tony kats, today,

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Speaker 2: guys a pleasure.

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Speaker 3: To be with. You i'm not. KIDDING i Think i'm onto.

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01:43:57,479 --> 01:44:04,160
Speaker 2: Something the message taken By america is these, people These

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01:44:04,320 --> 01:44:07,960
Speaker 2: democrats want a legal immigrants voting more than they want

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01:44:08,080 --> 01:44:10,360
Speaker 2: me to be able to travel around my own. Country,

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Speaker 2: yeah that's. Accurate they said. It they have repeated it

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Speaker 2: for forty. Days they didn't care IF tsa agents got,

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Speaker 2: paid they didn't care if your kids, starved as long

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Speaker 2: as they could get votes or the opportunity for those. Votes,

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Speaker 2: Yes i'm making the accusation quite, explicitly but their own

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01:44:30,880 --> 01:44:34,360
Speaker 2: words allow me to back it. Up it's their own

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01:44:34,560 --> 01:44:40,280
Speaker 2: words that allow me to make this. Statement this is

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Speaker 2: who they, are this is what they, do this is

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Speaker 2: what they're all. About it Was Senator Chris. Murphy Senator

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Speaker 2: Chris murphy is the one who said quite clearly about

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Speaker 2: the people they care most.

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Speaker 3: About Chris hayes OF MS now asking the question.

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Speaker 1: The negotiation half the, citizenship it was entirely on their

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Speaker 1: terms in order to Get ukraine.

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Speaker 3: Funding.

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Speaker 12: Right, WELL i, Mean, chris that's been a failed play

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Speaker 12: for twenty. Years so you are right that that has

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Speaker 12: been The democratic strategy for thirty, years maybe and it

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01:45:18,880 --> 01:45:21,760
Speaker 12: has failed to deliver for the people we care about,

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01:45:21,800 --> 01:45:25,400
Speaker 12: most to the Undocumented americans that are in this.

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Speaker 2: Country his, words and you KNOW i had actually SAID

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01:45:30,240 --> 01:45:32,519
Speaker 2: i said this On newsmacs and other. Places maybe he,

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Speaker 2: Misspoke maybe he was trying to put a comma in.

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Speaker 2: THERE i haven't seen anywhere where he has tried to

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01:45:37,720 --> 01:45:41,080
Speaker 2: correct the. RECORD i only have to use The democrats'

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01:45:41,080 --> 01:45:43,640
Speaker 2: words against them to be able to show what they're all.

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01:45:43,680 --> 01:45:47,639
Speaker 2: About AND i Think americans see it exactly that. Way

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01:45:48,680 --> 01:45:52,960
Speaker 2: but with all of, this there is a, story and

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01:45:53,160 --> 01:45:56,439
Speaker 2: the story is about a congresswoman by the name Of

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01:45:56,479 --> 01:46:04,599
Speaker 2: Sheila cherfilus McCormick, crap who has been indicted and who

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01:46:04,760 --> 01:46:09,600
Speaker 2: The House Ethics panel found guilty of twenty five. Violations

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01:46:11,080 --> 01:46:15,120
Speaker 2: bipartisan panel of lawmakers voting to start the process that

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01:46:15,160 --> 01:46:20,000
Speaker 2: could lead to her. Expulsion why the allegation is she

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01:46:20,200 --> 01:46:27,519
Speaker 2: laundered millions of disasterly funds into her campaign. Account she's

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01:46:27,560 --> 01:46:31,840
Speaker 2: facing federal criminal indictment ranging from using ineligible funds to

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01:46:31,920 --> 01:46:36,679
Speaker 2: finance her, campaigns repeatedly filing false financial disclosure, forms seeking

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01:46:36,760 --> 01:46:42,840
Speaker 2: special favors with recipients of earmark funding. Requests now they

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01:46:42,880 --> 01:46:47,680
Speaker 2: won't meet until After easter to recommend, punishment which could be.

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Speaker 2: Expulsion it's going to be, expulsion And democrats are going

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01:46:53,760 --> 01:46:58,599
Speaker 2: to have a very hard time being behind her because

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Speaker 2: they would have, gone, well, okay maybe she was found

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Speaker 2: guilty here or guilty.

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Speaker 3: There we're not gonna do anything until she's convicted of a.

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Speaker 2: Crime but the very idea that The House Ethics, panel by,

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Speaker 2: partner is, like, yeah, yeah this is a lot of,

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Speaker 2: violations a ton of.

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Speaker 3: Violations expect her to be.

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Speaker 2: Gone she's From, florida by the, way The House Ethics

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01:47:24,680 --> 01:47:29,800
Speaker 2: panel finding her guilty of nearly all alleged, violations so

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Speaker 2: there were twenty six alleged.

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Speaker 3: Violations she was found guilty of counts one to.

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Speaker 2: Fifteen it counts seventeenth through twenty, six which would say

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Speaker 2: that there was only one where they were Like.

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Speaker 3: Nat she didn't do. That keep an eye on how

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Speaker 3: that might affect the balance of the. House find everything

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Speaker 3: At tony kats dot. Com i'll catch You. Monday, everyone take,

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Speaker 3: care