1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:08,200 Speaker 1: So Hamas is slow rolling the return of the remains 2 00:00:12,039 --> 00:00:20,439 Speaker 1: of those hostages killed by them. Tony Katz Tony Katz today, guys. 3 00:00:20,200 --> 00:00:21,360 Speaker 2: Good to be with you. Good to be here. 4 00:00:21,440 --> 00:00:25,440 Speaker 1: Find everything I do over at Tony Katz dot com. 5 00:00:25,480 --> 00:00:28,120 Speaker 1: Purposefully slow rolling. 6 00:00:30,440 --> 00:00:31,000 Speaker 2: The release. 7 00:00:31,280 --> 00:00:35,280 Speaker 1: This has got the Israelis infuriated. This is going to 8 00:00:35,440 --> 00:00:44,120 Speaker 1: lead to a fracturing very very quickly of the piece deal. 9 00:00:47,360 --> 00:00:50,280 Speaker 1: Hamas is required to fulfill its commitments. Acreate A Benjamin 10 00:00:50,280 --> 00:00:53,520 Speaker 1: at Yahoo and they said all hell will break loose 11 00:00:53,520 --> 00:00:58,320 Speaker 1: if Hamas doesn't. Four were returned, three have been identified. 12 00:00:58,800 --> 00:01:03,040 Speaker 1: One as was reported, turns out wasn't an Israeli soldier. 13 00:01:04,400 --> 00:01:09,240 Speaker 1: They were in an IDF uniform, but they that wasn't 14 00:01:09,280 --> 00:01:11,520 Speaker 1: who they thought it was, and they were able to 15 00:01:11,560 --> 00:01:17,680 Speaker 1: do this identity identifying very very quickly. Israel said they're 16 00:01:17,680 --> 00:01:21,639 Speaker 1: going to restrict aid into Gaza. Hamas has said, okay, 17 00:01:21,880 --> 00:01:27,120 Speaker 1: we'll release more people. There's no question about what Hamas is. 18 00:01:27,200 --> 00:01:35,840 Speaker 1: There's no question about the people who are desperate to 19 00:01:36,120 --> 00:01:40,640 Speaker 1: support Hamas. We see them, we know them, we see 20 00:01:40,680 --> 00:01:43,400 Speaker 1: how they they engage in this fraud and how they 21 00:01:43,440 --> 00:01:46,240 Speaker 1: are not happy with ceasefire because that was never the objective. 22 00:01:46,560 --> 00:01:48,400 Speaker 2: We've been through this, we understand it. 23 00:01:48,480 --> 00:01:52,480 Speaker 1: What they want is a destroyed Israel, dead Jews, and 24 00:01:52,480 --> 00:01:53,600 Speaker 1: then a destroyed America. 25 00:01:54,120 --> 00:01:57,040 Speaker 2: This is what they want. There is no. 26 00:01:57,000 --> 00:02:00,480 Speaker 1: Debate, so we don't have to discuss it as a debate. 27 00:02:02,120 --> 00:02:05,480 Speaker 1: What is very interesting is the commentary from President Trump. 28 00:02:06,840 --> 00:02:14,839 Speaker 1: Because President Trump was very clear about the idea. 29 00:02:16,400 --> 00:02:23,520 Speaker 2: That Hamas has to disarm. I'll all take Hamas to disarm. 30 00:02:23,600 --> 00:02:26,600 Speaker 2: And can you guarantee that is going to happen? To disarm? 31 00:02:26,919 --> 00:02:28,840 Speaker 1: And because they said they were going to disarm, and 32 00:02:28,880 --> 00:02:31,200 Speaker 1: if they don't disarm, we will disarm them. 33 00:02:31,639 --> 00:02:33,959 Speaker 2: How you do that? I don't have to explain that 34 00:02:34,080 --> 00:02:37,000 Speaker 2: to you. But if they don't disarm, we will disarm them. 35 00:02:37,320 --> 00:02:40,520 Speaker 2: They know I'm not playing games first. I love that 36 00:02:40,680 --> 00:02:43,800 Speaker 2: answer more than oxygen. I don't have to explain that 37 00:02:43,919 --> 00:02:44,240 Speaker 2: to you. 38 00:02:44,800 --> 00:02:47,480 Speaker 1: How you mean I should let the enemy know through 39 00:02:47,520 --> 00:02:49,920 Speaker 1: your ridiculous news outlet. 40 00:02:50,720 --> 00:02:52,040 Speaker 2: How I'm going to do this. 41 00:02:52,200 --> 00:02:54,960 Speaker 1: I think that's a terrible idea to give the enemy 42 00:02:55,000 --> 00:02:58,160 Speaker 1: the advantage of knowing how we're going about doing things. 43 00:02:59,160 --> 00:03:07,480 Speaker 2: But there is no question, there is no question. 44 00:03:09,560 --> 00:03:14,839 Speaker 1: That the statement for Magaville must be one that makes 45 00:03:14,919 --> 00:03:18,840 Speaker 1: them go I'm sorry, what now, How are. 46 00:03:18,800 --> 00:03:20,919 Speaker 2: You gonna make them disarm? Is a really good question. 47 00:03:21,800 --> 00:03:24,200 Speaker 1: I'm not saying the president's wrong in his response. He's 48 00:03:24,200 --> 00:03:28,920 Speaker 1: a ten accurate in his response. Only the lunatic would 49 00:03:28,919 --> 00:03:31,240 Speaker 1: be like, Okay, so we're gonna send in this infantry 50 00:03:31,280 --> 00:03:33,480 Speaker 1: division and then we're gonna end around here. Then we're 51 00:03:33,520 --> 00:03:36,400 Speaker 1: gonna drop three sorties over there. Then we're gonna have 52 00:03:36,400 --> 00:03:39,360 Speaker 1: a guy jump from behind a bush and go boogey bogey, 53 00:03:39,960 --> 00:03:43,120 Speaker 1: and then we're gonna send out an attack pigeon. 54 00:03:43,400 --> 00:03:46,840 Speaker 2: This pigeon is designed for death, I tell you, And 55 00:03:46,880 --> 00:03:48,240 Speaker 2: he's gonna crap all. 56 00:03:48,120 --> 00:03:51,120 Speaker 1: Over them, and they're gonna go, oh, no, pigeon crap. 57 00:03:51,320 --> 00:03:56,400 Speaker 1: And that's when we're gonna get all the guns. By 58 00:03:56,440 --> 00:03:59,960 Speaker 1: the way, operation pigeon crap great name for an operation. 59 00:04:00,480 --> 00:04:02,800 Speaker 1: I had never thought of that before. But I'm telling 60 00:04:02,800 --> 00:04:05,560 Speaker 1: you right now, if I was in charge of naming 61 00:04:05,600 --> 00:04:11,120 Speaker 1: military operations, operation pigeon crap top of the top of 62 00:04:11,160 --> 00:04:13,040 Speaker 1: the list. 63 00:04:14,080 --> 00:04:16,560 Speaker 2: God, that exhausted me, it really did. 64 00:04:16,760 --> 00:04:21,120 Speaker 1: He's right, of course, he's right. But now it's you 65 00:04:21,200 --> 00:04:23,440 Speaker 1: and me on a barstool smoking a cigar. I've got 66 00:04:23,440 --> 00:04:25,839 Speaker 1: the all of us, Siri, v Milannio right here. This 67 00:04:25,920 --> 00:04:29,159 Speaker 1: is the torpedo. It's a beautiful stick. It's a perfect 68 00:04:29,160 --> 00:04:34,280 Speaker 1: for the show. Just just wonderful, wonderful cigar. Yes, if 69 00:04:34,279 --> 00:04:36,120 Speaker 1: you're watching the live stream, you've seen me do it. 70 00:04:36,400 --> 00:04:39,200 Speaker 1: I smoke while I do the show. I like cigars. 71 00:04:39,200 --> 00:04:41,120 Speaker 1: I smoke cigars. I apologize for nothing. 72 00:04:43,120 --> 00:04:45,000 Speaker 2: How in the world are you going to disarm them? 73 00:04:46,480 --> 00:04:47,640 Speaker 2: It's a solid question. 74 00:04:47,720 --> 00:04:49,479 Speaker 1: The reason that I bring it up because it's alid 75 00:04:49,520 --> 00:04:50,880 Speaker 1: question for you and me on the barstool I haveing 76 00:04:50,920 --> 00:04:53,360 Speaker 1: this conversation right now. The reason I bring it up 77 00:04:54,600 --> 00:05:01,920 Speaker 1: is because for Magaville, this has got to be bothersome now. 78 00:05:01,960 --> 00:05:04,600 Speaker 1: I was very happy to see people push back against 79 00:05:04,600 --> 00:05:06,280 Speaker 1: Steve Bannon's statement. 80 00:05:07,000 --> 00:05:09,800 Speaker 2: About this is this piece deal is a huge loss 81 00:05:11,240 --> 00:05:13,280 Speaker 2: for Annette and Yahoo. 82 00:05:14,240 --> 00:05:17,120 Speaker 1: And then he said tel Aviv Levin, and I think 83 00:05:17,120 --> 00:05:20,520 Speaker 1: he's talking about Mark Levin, And that's just so screwed up. 84 00:05:20,480 --> 00:05:21,640 Speaker 2: It can't even be discovered. 85 00:05:21,680 --> 00:05:28,320 Speaker 1: That is screwed up. Steve, completely screwed up. Of course, 86 00:05:28,800 --> 00:05:32,520 Speaker 1: what's wrong with being supportive of Israel? You think because 87 00:05:32,520 --> 00:05:34,719 Speaker 1: he's supportive of Israel, he's not supportive of America. 88 00:05:34,839 --> 00:05:40,520 Speaker 2: Steve, Steve, stop it. Don't buy into that ridiculousness. 89 00:05:41,800 --> 00:05:48,280 Speaker 1: They're leading us to war. Stop it. The President just 90 00:05:48,440 --> 00:05:53,240 Speaker 1: said we will disarm them. That is a moment to say. 91 00:05:53,040 --> 00:05:56,839 Speaker 2: How does that happen? Does that happen with American troops? 92 00:05:57,360 --> 00:06:00,080 Speaker 1: We know that two hundred troops were sent to you 93 00:06:00,240 --> 00:06:01,800 Speaker 1: kind of oversee things. 94 00:06:02,279 --> 00:06:04,479 Speaker 2: I didn't like that. I didn't ask for that. I 95 00:06:04,480 --> 00:06:05,039 Speaker 2: don't want that. 96 00:06:07,240 --> 00:06:11,280 Speaker 1: We talk about Ukraine and Russia, and there was a 97 00:06:11,320 --> 00:06:13,720 Speaker 1: really really stupid question. 98 00:06:14,279 --> 00:06:16,280 Speaker 2: That was like, oh, look how smart this is. 99 00:06:17,440 --> 00:06:23,640 Speaker 1: Russia owes the Ukrainian people reparations or should pay. 100 00:06:23,440 --> 00:06:26,000 Speaker 2: For the rebuilding, reparations, to pay for the rebuilding. 101 00:06:26,160 --> 00:06:28,760 Speaker 1: And then someone was like, well, then why don't Israeli's 102 00:06:28,920 --> 00:06:32,840 Speaker 1: own oh Gaza to rebuild. Why don't they pay for 103 00:06:32,880 --> 00:06:39,919 Speaker 1: the rebuilding? Hamas attacked Israel? Why in the world would 104 00:06:39,960 --> 00:06:43,919 Speaker 1: Israel have to pay for anything. Hamas should pay with 105 00:06:44,080 --> 00:06:47,960 Speaker 1: their blood, and so should anybody who engage support of Hamas. 106 00:06:48,320 --> 00:06:52,160 Speaker 2: It's a war, they should pay for the rebuilding. 107 00:06:52,520 --> 00:06:55,440 Speaker 1: Is exactly what happens when you allow leftists to think 108 00:06:55,480 --> 00:06:58,360 Speaker 1: that their radicalness is intellect. 109 00:06:59,560 --> 00:07:02,159 Speaker 2: As. These two things are in any way the same. 110 00:07:02,839 --> 00:07:03,440 Speaker 2: They are not. 111 00:07:04,400 --> 00:07:06,560 Speaker 1: Ukraine may not have been great, but they did not 112 00:07:06,640 --> 00:07:10,480 Speaker 1: deserve to be invaded. And do the question of how 113 00:07:10,480 --> 00:07:14,480 Speaker 1: does this fight resolve, Well, you already have NATO saying 114 00:07:14,480 --> 00:07:17,320 Speaker 1: that they'll take the lead. That could involve US troops, 115 00:07:17,520 --> 00:07:21,040 Speaker 1: but most likely to evolve European troops, US troops in 116 00:07:21,120 --> 00:07:24,360 Speaker 1: the backgrounds, and of course the buying of US military hardware, 117 00:07:24,600 --> 00:07:29,040 Speaker 1: maybe at a discount. Same thing could be true regarding 118 00:07:29,240 --> 00:07:31,960 Speaker 1: Israel and the disarming of Hamas. 119 00:07:32,240 --> 00:07:34,720 Speaker 2: But the only way to disarm Amas. 120 00:07:36,520 --> 00:07:39,240 Speaker 1: If you and I are just sitting here having a cigar, 121 00:07:39,480 --> 00:07:44,120 Speaker 1: drinking a burb and talking about how this would be done, 122 00:07:44,360 --> 00:07:45,920 Speaker 1: is you got to walk in and you gotta take 123 00:07:45,960 --> 00:07:48,960 Speaker 1: the gun. The problem is they might fire the gun. 124 00:07:53,800 --> 00:07:58,880 Speaker 1: I mean, that's the fundamental issue. The only way to 125 00:07:59,240 --> 00:08:05,120 Speaker 1: truly disarmed Hamas. The President brought it up. Don't tell 126 00:08:05,160 --> 00:08:07,920 Speaker 1: me I can't discuss it. Don't tell me I'm a warmonger. 127 00:08:08,160 --> 00:08:10,680 Speaker 1: The President was asked a question, he said he would 128 00:08:10,680 --> 00:08:12,120 Speaker 1: disarm he didn't say how. 129 00:08:12,120 --> 00:08:13,480 Speaker 2: When he was absolutely right. 130 00:08:13,680 --> 00:08:16,320 Speaker 1: I'm allowed to ask how and go through the machinations 131 00:08:16,360 --> 00:08:18,480 Speaker 1: of what it would take to disarm Hamas. And the 132 00:08:18,600 --> 00:08:22,239 Speaker 1: only way you disarm Hamas is to end the Iranian regime. 133 00:08:22,840 --> 00:08:23,600 Speaker 2: Tell me I'm wrong. 134 00:08:24,720 --> 00:08:29,000 Speaker 1: Walk walk me down the road, Walk me down the 135 00:08:29,080 --> 00:08:33,200 Speaker 1: road where Hamas doesn't have a single gun. They don't 136 00:08:33,200 --> 00:08:35,880 Speaker 1: even have a flare gun. They don't have a water gun. 137 00:08:36,679 --> 00:08:39,480 Speaker 1: They're not even allowed to refer to their biceps as guns. 138 00:08:40,040 --> 00:08:44,280 Speaker 2: Tell me how that happens if Iran. 139 00:08:44,120 --> 00:08:46,720 Speaker 1: Is able to give them the dollars or utilized dollars 140 00:08:46,760 --> 00:08:47,440 Speaker 1: to rearm them. 141 00:08:48,559 --> 00:08:48,960 Speaker 2: I'll wait. 142 00:08:51,320 --> 00:08:54,080 Speaker 1: I don't know do I have any good like waiting music. 143 00:08:54,160 --> 00:08:57,559 Speaker 1: I sometimes have good waiting music. Not today, I'm a 144 00:08:57,600 --> 00:09:00,400 Speaker 1: little bit out of uh wait, let me say, okay, 145 00:09:00,520 --> 00:09:02,840 Speaker 1: oh this this, this might work here, here's some good 146 00:09:02,840 --> 00:09:05,840 Speaker 1: waiting music. You tell me like I don't have Jeopardy 147 00:09:05,880 --> 00:09:09,240 Speaker 1: music for some reason. You tell me how this happens 148 00:09:09,400 --> 00:09:11,240 Speaker 1: without getting rid of the Iranian regime. 149 00:09:11,600 --> 00:09:14,679 Speaker 2: All wait with Brian Boitano, do and be with you 150 00:09:14,880 --> 00:09:17,200 Speaker 2: right now? We take up grant any follows. 151 00:09:17,640 --> 00:09:20,479 Speaker 1: That's what Boitano doo. 152 00:09:20,640 --> 00:09:24,559 Speaker 2: You here, we are here today. I'm Jemmy Pickande. That's what. 153 00:09:27,600 --> 00:09:32,839 Speaker 1: But I thought that was pretty good thinking music. Oh, 154 00:09:32,840 --> 00:09:36,280 Speaker 1: it's gonna screw my monetization issues on YouTube. Don't every 155 00:09:36,360 --> 00:09:39,439 Speaker 1: day you can't monetize this? They don't. 156 00:09:39,480 --> 00:09:42,640 Speaker 2: They don't essentially don't take down anything, but like some. 157 00:09:42,640 --> 00:09:44,360 Speaker 1: Of the music we pick and everything else, like oh 158 00:09:44,400 --> 00:09:48,320 Speaker 1: that's not monetizable. It's like, okay, uh, sponsorships now available. 159 00:09:48,360 --> 00:09:52,280 Speaker 1: What screw the monetizing, let's bring the sponsorships people. 160 00:09:55,480 --> 00:09:59,440 Speaker 2: I don't see how that happens. I don't see how 161 00:09:59,480 --> 00:10:00,000 Speaker 2: it happens. 162 00:10:00,880 --> 00:10:07,400 Speaker 1: And I am not so sure that Magaville is prepared 163 00:10:07,400 --> 00:10:10,079 Speaker 1: for this conversation. Or maybe I'm not giving them the 164 00:10:10,120 --> 00:10:13,000 Speaker 1: credit that they deserve because I don't I'm not engaging 165 00:10:13,040 --> 00:10:17,400 Speaker 1: this to be disparaging. Maybe they are absolutely aware of 166 00:10:17,400 --> 00:10:19,240 Speaker 1: it and this is the thing that they never wanted. 167 00:10:20,360 --> 00:10:24,680 Speaker 1: They knew it would get to this as well. But 168 00:10:24,800 --> 00:10:27,160 Speaker 1: I don't know how you think that's gonna happen. I 169 00:10:27,200 --> 00:10:29,400 Speaker 1: don't know how you disarm Hamas without. 170 00:10:29,240 --> 00:10:30,440 Speaker 2: Ending the Iranian regime. 171 00:10:30,840 --> 00:10:36,240 Speaker 1: And if anybody's got an idea, I'm all ears right. 172 00:10:36,360 --> 00:10:40,000 Speaker 1: Aaron there commenting. Hamas expects everything to go back to 173 00:10:40,040 --> 00:10:43,080 Speaker 1: how it was before October seventh. They don't expect anyone 174 00:10:43,200 --> 00:10:46,600 Speaker 1: has an appetite to engage in more fighting after how 175 00:10:46,679 --> 00:10:48,040 Speaker 1: Israel was excoriated. 176 00:10:48,600 --> 00:10:49,839 Speaker 2: No no, no, no, no no no. 177 00:10:51,240 --> 00:10:55,000 Speaker 1: You could argue that Hamas expects everything to go back 178 00:10:55,080 --> 00:10:59,520 Speaker 1: the way it was before October seven. But that was 179 00:10:59,559 --> 00:11:03,560 Speaker 1: their ex spectation when all this happened. They figured that 180 00:11:03,640 --> 00:11:06,200 Speaker 1: the world would bring Israel to heal, and Israel refuse 181 00:11:06,280 --> 00:11:08,800 Speaker 1: to do it. And I'm telling you, even with all 182 00:11:08,840 --> 00:11:11,080 Speaker 1: the fanfare and the Knesset and all the love Trump 183 00:11:11,160 --> 00:11:12,640 Speaker 1: got and all the cheers. 184 00:11:12,360 --> 00:11:14,720 Speaker 2: And everything else, if a mouse does. 185 00:11:14,600 --> 00:11:19,600 Speaker 1: Not return these dead Israelis, the IDF is gonna go. 186 00:11:19,720 --> 00:11:22,560 Speaker 2: Right back in. We're not gonna care. 187 00:11:24,280 --> 00:11:29,319 Speaker 1: They got the hostages back who are alive. They know 188 00:11:29,480 --> 00:11:33,760 Speaker 1: that this is all long shot. They really they want. 189 00:11:33,640 --> 00:11:36,080 Speaker 2: Everybody part, They want every tooth. 190 00:11:36,200 --> 00:11:39,600 Speaker 1: It matters in a way I cannot properly express here. 191 00:11:41,520 --> 00:11:43,080 Speaker 2: You think they're gonna take abuse from. 192 00:11:42,960 --> 00:11:46,400 Speaker 1: A Moss No matter what Trump wants, no matter what 193 00:11:46,480 --> 00:11:48,280 Speaker 1: peace deal he's trying to get, no matter what Nobel 194 00:11:48,360 --> 00:11:51,640 Speaker 1: fries he desires, the Israelies won't do it. Those days 195 00:11:51,679 --> 00:11:57,360 Speaker 1: are over. There are no more October sixth Israelies. They 196 00:11:57,360 --> 00:12:03,199 Speaker 1: are October eighth Israelies. Moss is gonna go. But if 197 00:12:03,200 --> 00:12:06,640 Speaker 1: you want to disarm the way Trump is discussing, I 198 00:12:06,679 --> 00:12:09,920 Speaker 1: don't know how that does not go through the Iranian regime. 199 00:12:10,480 --> 00:12:13,160 Speaker 2: I'm Tony Katz, and this is Tony Katz today