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Speaker 1: Live from vall Hartbinert and the Crossroads of America. It's

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Speaker 1: Tony Katz today.

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Speaker 2: Good morning everyone.

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Speaker 3: We are now beginning day thirty of the Democrats shutdown,

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Speaker 3: and as there are millions of Americans this morning that

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Speaker 3: are embracing themselves for further pain and hardship, will highlight

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Speaker 3: some of that this morning. The Democrats incredibly are showing

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Speaker 3: no signs at all that they want to end their shutdown.

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Speaker 1: And that's true.

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Speaker 4: Nothing says the Democrats are looking for the exits, which

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Speaker 4: is a weird story in and of itself. Tony Katz,

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Speaker 4: Tony Kats.

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Speaker 1: Today, good to be with you. I don't mean to

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Speaker 1: sound like a.

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Speaker 4: Broken record, but this is going on is part of

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Speaker 4: what's happening in America. And as we've discussed now that

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Speaker 4: people aren't getting paid, money is not flowing to a

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Speaker 4: whole bunch of benefits.

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Speaker 1: You're now going to hear these things get ramped up.

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Speaker 4: What I can not fine for the Democratic Party is

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Speaker 4: the off ramp. Somewhere there is a belief, there is

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Speaker 4: a theory, there is a philosophy that Republicans will blank

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Speaker 4: and extend Obamacare subsidies that they can get Trump to

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Speaker 4: do this, it'll be unpopular.

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Speaker 1: The numbers already show that.

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Speaker 4: Republicans are fined and independents are with the Republicans on this.

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Speaker 4: It's Democrats who are keeping things shut down. So I

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Speaker 4: don't know where the off ramp is. It's a weird moment.

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Speaker 1: You know, we're all political observers here, right. I do

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Speaker 1: this for a living. You're a part of what we

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Speaker 1: do every day. But you've got jobs, life, family, right,

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Speaker 1: and you do things in your spare time. So let's

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Speaker 1: say you're as much of an observer as I am,

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Speaker 1: or you're somewhere on the spectrum.

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Speaker 4: Usually people engage politically to a political end. What's the

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Speaker 4: end here? The end is they vote for the continuing

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Speaker 4: Resolution and then we're back by the way November twenty first.

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Speaker 4: But that's not an end that works for Schumer and co.

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Speaker 4: What did you actually stand up to? What exactly did

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Speaker 4: you bring attention to? What exactly did you fight for?

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Speaker 4: What exactly did you get? What exactly did you win?

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Speaker 4: What concession is achieved? Or may I say it this way?

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Speaker 4: What concession can you claims achieved?

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Speaker 1: I don't know what it is. I do this every day,

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Speaker 1: so do you. I don't know what it is.

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Speaker 4: What is it that they can turn to their base

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Speaker 4: and say, we did it. We showed them. I don't

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Speaker 4: know where the out is, and that could very well

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Speaker 4: be the answer. They don't know what the out is either,

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Speaker 4: so they don't do anything. Now this gets even stranger

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Speaker 4: because I had Congressman Marlin Stutsman on my morning show.

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Speaker 4: He represents the third district in Indiana, and he said something.

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Speaker 1: That blew my mind on the idea of when does

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Speaker 1: this end?

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Speaker 5: And then also the Virginia and New Jersey elections are

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Speaker 5: going to be done next Tuesday, and I think that's

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Speaker 5: what the Democrats have been holding out for because they're

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Speaker 5: just they just do not like Donald Trump.

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Speaker 1: They can't stand time.

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Speaker 4: I'm going to interrupt you talking to Congress with Marlin

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Speaker 4: Stutsman of the Indiana third District.

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Speaker 1: I heard they were they were holding out for the

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Speaker 1: No King's rally.

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Speaker 4: Now the reason that they're going to extend this into

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Speaker 4: next week because you've got the Virginia governor race, the

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Speaker 4: Democrat Abigail Stanberger against the incumbent lieutenant governor win.

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Speaker 1: Some earl sears.

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Speaker 4: You've got that governor's race in New Jersey where you've

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Speaker 4: got Jack Ciarelli, the Republican, gaining serious ground on the

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Speaker 4: congresswoman Democrat Mickey Ryl. They're going to hold on so

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Speaker 4: they can get the opportunities. And there's a connection between

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Speaker 4: that and these these statewide races.

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Speaker 5: Oh absolutely. I mean they're looking for anything, you know.

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Speaker 5: I described it like you know, that's a basketball game.

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Speaker 5: The GOP has huge momentum. Democrats are basically calling the

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Speaker 5: time out. They want to stop President Trump because he's

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Speaker 5: scoring and they want to The only way they can

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Speaker 5: do anything to slow it down is shut the government down.

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Speaker 5: And they've even said it. I mean, the Democrat leadership

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Speaker 5: this is their moment of leverage and that they're going

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Speaker 5: there's going to be some pain for their constituents on

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Speaker 5: these snap programs. You know, people are going to have

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Speaker 5: to go without food stamps for some time because this

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Speaker 5: is the moment they have leverage and that they're not

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Speaker 1: In Congress. I mean, think about that, Tony, We're going

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Speaker 5: Sorry, folks, you're not going to get your food stamps

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Speaker 5: today because we need the leverage in Congress to stop

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Speaker 5: President Trump from what cutting taxes, cutting spending, growing the economy,

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Speaker 5: world peace, I mean, name it, but that's that's Trump

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Speaker 5: the arrangement syndrome right there.

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Speaker 1: So that's a nuts thought that they're going to keep.

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Speaker 4: This going because they think that staying shut down is

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Speaker 4: going to help them in Virginia and in New Jersey.

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Speaker 4: Now I'm not saying that they can't win in both places.

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Speaker 4: There's a lot of lefties in both places. I'm saying

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Speaker 4: that if you think this is going to help you

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Speaker 4: when it's clearly been shown that it's not connecting with Americans,

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Speaker 4: that's just beyond desperation. Me, I don't even know if

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Speaker 4: desperation is the right word. That's just like a that's

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Speaker 4: the craziest, weirdest hail Mary I may have ever heard of.

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Speaker 4: And as always, you know, my father Arrest his soul

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Speaker 4: used to say, you know, the guy who screws.

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Speaker 1: You over in business, Hey, you didn't use the term

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Speaker 1: screws you over. The guy who screws you over because

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Speaker 1: he's gonna get paid. They're gonna make some money out

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Speaker 1: of it.

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Speaker 4: You may not like it, and They may be wrong

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Speaker 4: and everything else, but you can understand it.

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Speaker 1: They were doing it for the for the dollar.

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Speaker 4: The person you have to worry about is the person

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Speaker 4: who will screw you over for nothing they don't gain

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Speaker 4: anything from it. That person is dangerous. You you're saying

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Speaker 4: shut down for two governors races, that that's not going

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Speaker 4: to impact the governor's races, or is it giving in

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Speaker 4: and signing the CR.

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Speaker 1: Voting for the CR is seen as quitting and is going.

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Speaker 4: To demoralize the left, which would mean that they actually

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Speaker 4: do like this stuff.

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Speaker 1: Or at least that's the bet.

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Speaker 6: You know.

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Speaker 4: There was the argument that the party is run by

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Speaker 4: the leftist progressives and the far left. I don't you know,

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Speaker 4: I don't believe that Democrats are being controlled by the

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Speaker 4: there are very few actual Democrats out there. They are

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Speaker 4: aren't Democrats. So it's not like they're being led by

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Speaker 4: this wild mob outside the Capitol. The wild mob is

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Speaker 4: the party in the Capitol not voting to open up

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Speaker 1: So it's a wild kind of scene where this can't help.

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Speaker 1: It can't, but being seen as giving in now could hurt. Oh, okay,

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Speaker 1: all right, you know what, thank you, all right now,

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Speaker 1: we understand it. That could very well be it. It

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Speaker 1: won't help, but if you give up now, it could hurt.

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Speaker 4: All right, that could be a mathematics back to Speaker

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Speaker 4: Mike Johnson.

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Speaker 3: Now, they will have another opportunity today, the Democrats and

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Speaker 3: the Senate will have their fifteenth opportunity to do the

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Speaker 3: right thing. We're concerned that they won't. And if they

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Speaker 3: reject this for the fifteen time, they will be ensuring

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Speaker 3: that this shutdown continues past the November one deadline, and

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Speaker 3: that is a fateful deadline for a number of reasons.

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Speaker 2: Starting on Saturday.

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Speaker 3: Let me give you a list of things that this

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Speaker 3: means for the American people. It means that tens of

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Speaker 3: millions of American families will struggle to keep food on

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Speaker 3: the table because the SNAP program benefits.

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Speaker 2: Will run dry.

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Speaker 3: It means that Wick assistance, that's women, infants, in children,

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Speaker 3: the nutrition programs will be at risk of running dry.

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Speaker 3: It means that head start centers, which serve sixty thousand

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Speaker 3: children nationwide, will be at risk of closure. Millions of

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Speaker 3: federal workers and we've listed them here. Every day you're

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Speaker 3: talking about air traffic controllers and TSA agents, and park

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Speaker 3: The stewards of our nuclear arsenal will miss their paychecks.

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Speaker 3: Thousands of flights by results will be canceled or delayed,

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Speaker 3: while our borders in national security will be directly jeopardized

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Speaker 3: at a very dangerous moment in world history, and our

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Speaker 3: country will lose tens of billions in gross domestic product.

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Speaker 2: With each passing day, pain gets more real.

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Speaker 3: And the Democrats are guaranteeing when they vote to reject

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Speaker 3: our clean funding resolution. We expect they will do that

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Speaker 3: again today for the fifteenth time. They are showing no

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Speaker 4: Now this idea of money lost, there was a story

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Speaker 4: that you see, it's on the show sheet there at

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Speaker 4: Tony Katz dot com that the shutdown is costing sixteen

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Speaker 4: according to the Congressional Budget Office, that the negative effect

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Speaker 1: It could lose up to fourteen billion.

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Speaker 4: And the argument is now mostly things will come back,

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Speaker 4: but not entirely, meaning that let's say it's fourteen billion. Now,

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Speaker 4: now you find the government, now what it reduces to

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Speaker 4: a billion dollars negative impact, There is still a negative

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Speaker 1: The issue is that you know, these people are going

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Speaker 1: to get paid one way or another. It's what do

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Speaker 4: And so as that pain grows, that's where the story

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Speaker 4: gets larger when it comes to snap benefits. Well, eventually

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Speaker 4: they'll get their snap benefits. What do they do about food?

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Speaker 1: Now?

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Speaker 4: Now, we should not allow ourselves to get into an

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Speaker 4: argument that I agree with, by the way, which is

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Speaker 4: exactly how many people do we have on food stamps?

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Speaker 4: What are we doing to get people off of food stamps?

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Speaker 4: Why do we have people so dependent on food stamps?

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Speaker 4: And I was sharing this story earlier. This was somebody

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Speaker 1: Did you hear this? A reporter speaking to a woman

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Speaker 7: I'm gonna keep it real with you. I get over

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Speaker 7: twenty five hundred a month in stamps. I sell them

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Speaker 7: two thousand worth for about twelve to fifteen hundred cash.

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Speaker 7: That's why everybody's upset. Folks say we're taking advantage, but

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Speaker 7: that's how we get by.

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Speaker 4: And oh now, if someone told me that was some

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Speaker 4: kind of AI video, I would believe it, except you

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Speaker 4: believe it. There are a lot of people out there

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Speaker 4: manipulating the system. Without question, that is happening. The people

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Speaker 4: we want to help are the people we want to help.

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Speaker 4: The people we want to throw in jail are the

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Speaker 4: to be able to today differentiate between the two, but

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Speaker 4: there is no doubt that there are people who we.

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Speaker 1: Want to help, people who need helping, people we should help.

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Speaker 4: I'm all in for this, but how many are American

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Speaker 4: are doing things like that? Which is jail is not

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Speaker 1: And who is that best represented by.

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Speaker 3: And you might have seen in the media are covering this,

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Speaker 2: I read some of that yesterday.

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Speaker 3: This socialist uprising is something that we have a responsibility

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Speaker 4: He's right about Mom Donnie and the one two punch,

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Speaker 4: It is serious stuff. Tying that a progressive leftist movement

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Speaker 1: A connect the dots. You're winning on this, keep at it.

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Speaker 4: But there's only so many days you can go up

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Speaker 1: You have to get into the why.

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Speaker 4: And now you're having your you have the ability to

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Speaker 4: what can the what can the Democrats do? As long

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Speaker 4: as they keep losing on this shutdown, they keep getting

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Speaker 4: Because what Mike Johnson is saying, speaker is saying about

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Speaker 1: Keep it here. This is Tony Katz today.

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Speaker 4: You gotta love the way that the headline was written,

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Speaker 4: Tony Katz today, good to be with you. Republicans join

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Speaker 4: Democrats to push back on tariffs. That was the base

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Speaker 4: the basic concept of the headline, Senate Republicans defect reads

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Speaker 4: The very concept of what's happening here is the idea

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Speaker 1: You know, I'm not a tariff.

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Speaker 4: Guy right as tactic, yes, as policy now now as

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Speaker 1: And I argue there comes a moment when it all

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Speaker 4: These senators who are saying no to this, We're not

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Speaker 4: Trump is used to declare retaliatory tariffs against Canada.

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Speaker 1: And that's just it.

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Speaker 4: No matter where we are on tariffs, someone makes a

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Speaker 4: You're proving that the tariffs aren't about economic policy. Please

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Speaker 4: I don't care whose feelings get hurt. I want what

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Speaker 4: is not some scattershot approach saying I throw a tariff

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Speaker 1: You don't laugh at my jokes.

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Speaker 4: It's an absolutely horrific, terrible idea.

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Speaker 1: And this is the only point that I try to

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Speaker 4: The only point that I am trying to make is

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Speaker 4: But that's another story for another day.

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Speaker 1: Keep it here. I'm Tony Katz. This is Tony Kats Today.

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Speaker 4: We have always said that one has to give kudos

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Speaker 1: Tony Kats. Tony Kats Today, good to be with you.

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Speaker 4: Find everything at Tony Katz dot Com, Twitter, ex, Tony

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Speaker 4: kak Cat's Facebook, Tony Kats Radio, Instagram. Tony Kats you

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Speaker 4: Kritn John Pierre is not bright. That whatever she was

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Speaker 4: I'm going to concern myself with another schedu anybody who

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Speaker 1: Just because you're bigot.

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Speaker 4: Because she was a black woman, she was incapable and

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Speaker 4: We're talking about just getting at it. Listen to this.

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Speaker 4: a series of moves to at least put the effort

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Speaker 4: in far more than anything Joe Biden did. But neither

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Speaker 4: one of those things is a misrepresentation.

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Speaker 1: Trump voters do not feel like they were lied.

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Speaker 4: To, not in the slightest They tried this like two

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Speaker 4: months after the election. Uh Buyer's remorse. Oh, these Trump

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Speaker 4: supporters have buyer's remorse.

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Speaker 1: What are you talking about? Nobody Nobody regrets their vote.

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Speaker 4: And I'm a guy who has public disagreements with the

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Speaker 4: president on some economic issues.

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Speaker 1: I don't regret my vote. Which is this idea that

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Speaker 1: you need total fealty.

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Speaker 4: Never never buy into that, never believe that you're allowed

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Speaker 4: to have disagreements.

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Speaker 1: And it's okay, We're all good here.

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Speaker 4: So this idea of misinformation, disinformation, not true, not factual.

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Speaker 4: If you want to talk about the people lying, talk

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Speaker 4: about the Biden white Sarah Ferguson pushes back, forgiven.

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Speaker 9: I wanted a calendar in terms of yes o'clock.

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Speaker 8: I want to interrupt you because that is a world

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Speaker 8: class pivot. But it is not the question that I

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Speaker 8: asked you, which is about Joe Biden's failure to recognize

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Speaker 8: his own frailties.

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Speaker 4: And boom, my gosh, that's good. She's like, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 4: I hear what you're saying. That isn't the question that

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Speaker 4: I asked. I didn't ask the question. I asked the

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Speaker 4: question about Joe Biden's frailties, and you went into a

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Speaker 4: conversation about Donald Trump engaging in misinformation.

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Speaker 1: So let me bring it back and the.

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Speaker 4: Look on Kamala Harris's face, the look on her face

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Speaker 4: is up.

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Speaker 10: I just went boom boom, like just she knows that.

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Speaker 10: By the way, I have never said boom boom on

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Speaker 10: the here before, and.

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Speaker 6: I feel pretty uncomfortable and having done it. And I'd

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Speaker 6: like to apologize to you. That's funny that said on

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Speaker 6: with the fireworks.

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Speaker 8: What that did to you? The question is about Joe Biden.

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Speaker 8: Are you still reluctant to criticize the former president in

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Speaker 8: what regard?

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Speaker 1: Please?

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Speaker 8: Well, just in terms of that question, so you what

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Speaker 8: exactly would you like to ask?

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Speaker 9: Be more specific if you don't mind.

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Speaker 8: Was it Joe Biden's decision, his failure to recognize his

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Speaker 8: own frailties in that position that put you in the

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Speaker 8: position that made it almost impossible to win that race?

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Speaker 9: He was not frail as president of the United States, but.

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Speaker 8: He had frailties. We all saw the debate.

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Speaker 9: I do believe that Joe Biden had the capacity to

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Speaker 9: be president of the United States.

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Speaker 4: Oh my, Now one has to ask why she's falling

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Speaker 4: on the sword, right, like, that's the first question. Immediately

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Speaker 4: you start going through your mind, and the answer is

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Speaker 4: she's going to need him if she runs again. She

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Speaker 4: needs to show that she is still about the party.

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Speaker 4: No one's going to look to Joe Biden for anything

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Speaker 4: twenty twenty eight. But she knows she's behind the eight

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Speaker 4: ball with a whole bunch of people in the Democratic

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Speaker 4: Party who don't want her, so she might still need him.

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Speaker 1: She knows she.

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Speaker 4: Doesn't have Nancy Pelosi on her side, she knows she

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Speaker 4: doesn't have Barack Obama on her side.

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Speaker 1: So listen to that.

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Speaker 9: And I've never doubted that he had the capacity to

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Speaker 9: be president of the United States, if you want to

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Speaker 9: talk about whether he had the ability to endure what

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Speaker 9: a race or president of the United States would require

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Speaker 9: in that political environment in twenty twenty four, As I've

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Speaker 9: said in the book, I had concerns.

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Speaker 8: I'm just wondering, is there a reason why you won't

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Speaker 8: go to that prolonged trailty question. No, we saw the debate,

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Speaker 8: We saw the difficulty he had marshaling.

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Speaker 9: His answered that question, and I do not believe.

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Speaker 2: I think it's just.

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Speaker 8: Hard watching the debate to see how there could not

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Speaker 8: be a problem long term with someone who can't marshal

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Speaker 8: their thoughts. I'm not saying he's acuity.

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Speaker 9: He wasn't present that in the book, And I also

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Speaker 9: mentioned the context in which that debate occurred. And you'll

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Speaker 9: probably remember how I talked about that in terms of

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Speaker 9: what his travel schedule had been, that what he had

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Speaker 9: been enduring, in terms of the timing of that debate.

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Speaker 9: I talk about it extensively in the book. I'm not

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Speaker 9: shying away from that. So I wrote it in the

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Speaker 9: book because I do know it's a question people had.

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Speaker 4: Are we still getting into this idea that Joe Biden

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Speaker 4: performed poorly in the debate because he was tired, because

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Speaker 4: he had just flown around the world. Trump just did

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Speaker 4: nine hundred hours in Asia. He's going to get off

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Speaker 4: the plane at Andrews. He's going to do a thirty

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Speaker 4: five minute press conference. He's going to go work his

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Speaker 4: second job at McDonald's. He's going to come back to

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Speaker 4: the White House, wrecked the construction of the ballroom, and

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Speaker 4: then he's going to get to work. Holy mackerel man,

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Speaker 4: that is just fun right there. That is just fun

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Speaker 4: right there? What it is that took place?

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Speaker 1: And good on Sarah Ferguson, nicely done. I don't know her,

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Speaker 1: but seriously, nicely done.

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Speaker 4: These people refuse to be honest about what happened, about

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Speaker 4: what they did, about how.

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Speaker 1: They lied, which is another thing.

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Speaker 4: Kamala Harris can't be honest because then she'll have to

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Speaker 4: admit that she was part of the line in the

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Speaker 4: cabal to overtake the country and run the country instead

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Speaker 4: of the President of the United States, who was clearly incapacitated. Clearly,

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Speaker 4: this is Tony Kats Today. I will be digging more

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Speaker 4: into it on this show and as we go forward,

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Speaker 4: But a lot of people have been asking, as they're

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Speaker 4: on social media, who the heck is Jennifer Welch, Tony Cats,

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Speaker 4: Tony Kats Today, Good to be with you.

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Speaker 1: She was on Bravo.

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Speaker 4: I don't know which one of those shows that she

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Speaker 4: was a part of, but Jennifer Welch has now kind

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Speaker 4: of catapulted herself into leftist progressive mainstream by being the

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Speaker 4: most hateful, vitriolic white woman Karen you ever saw in

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Speaker 4: your entire life. She is the poster child of Karen's

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Speaker 4: completely and fully, and she's calling this one a name,

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Speaker 4: and that one a name, and any four letter word

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Speaker 4: she can find in any derogatory term she can find it.

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Speaker 4: Oh my gosh, how shocking. It's not shocking. It's boring

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Speaker 4: as can be. And if the Democrats want her to

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Speaker 4: lead them in the world of culture, they found there

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Speaker 4: Joe Rogan.

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Speaker 1: Go right ahead, no, no, no, put.

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Speaker 4: Her front and center. Put this conversation right here, front

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Speaker 4: and center.

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Speaker 11: I like Stephen Miller is a white supremacist. I mean

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Speaker 11: he is, and he's basically running the White House. They

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Speaker 11: keep Trump busy with his decorating projects. He's got building

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Speaker 11: the arch, now, he's got his Oval office design. And

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Speaker 11: then you have these real sociopaths that are real anti semits,

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Speaker 11: true white supremacists like Stephen Miller. And even though he's Jewish,

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Speaker 11: he's like a Nazi Jew.

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Speaker 1: Well, look I can't I can't speak ah the old

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Speaker 1: Nazi jew comment.

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Speaker 4: Uh, well, this is the tame stuff because she's talking

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Speaker 4: to Abby Phillip there from CNN. But you've seen her

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Speaker 4: everywhere and it's all just so absolutely vicious.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, this is a solid representation of where today's liberal.

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Speaker 1: White woman is. Now.

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Speaker 4: I get a fair amount of pushback when I talk

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Speaker 4: about liberal white women being dangerous, because they are because

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Speaker 4: liberal white women are absolutely susceptible to being guilted into

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Speaker 4: near anything. They are absolutely hateful because of their training

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Speaker 4: from name the university, and they give license to an

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Speaker 4: excuse for the worst parts of society.

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Speaker 1: These are the people who side with terrorists. These are

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Speaker 1: the people who think that men can be women and

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Speaker 1: to hell with Riley Gaines and too bad she wasn't

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Speaker 1: a better swimmer. Ha ha ha.

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Speaker 4: That's what they do. They're vicious and nasty people because well, well,

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Speaker 4: there's actually a host of reasons, including what I assume

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Speaker 4: is very unhappy lives. We're not talking about somebody who

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Speaker 4: may have a disagreement with you politically. We're talking about

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Speaker 4: wrapping oneself up in an ideology where they are protected

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Speaker 4: by every creature comfort and never have to live the

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Speaker 4: result of those policies they are protected from it. We

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Speaker 4: have to tax the rich more. I'm sorry, my husband's

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Speaker 4: taking me on vacation.

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Speaker 1: You don't think that happens.

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Speaker 4: Are we gonna pretend now we're gonna play imaginary games

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Speaker 4: that that isn't a case in a lot of cases,

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Speaker 4: in the vast majority of cases, of course it is.

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Speaker 4: Of course it is. If we're talking about maybe not

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Speaker 4: Jennifer Welch, we were talking about liberal white women in general.

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Speaker 1: Of course it is, oh when.

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Speaker 4: They take the vacation, but they hate the guy who

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Speaker 4: provided the vacation, and that guy is somehow hoping maybe

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Speaker 4: to have five minutes of just peace and quiet. Oh

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Speaker 4: I'm sorry, did I hit the nail too much on

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Speaker 4: the head? My oops, My bad. You see, I'll get

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Speaker 4: lambasted for that. But Jennifer Welch will call this.

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Speaker 1: One a name and that won a name, and call

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Speaker 1: people the Jewish and Nazis, and it's somehow like, oh,

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Speaker 1: she's so brave.

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Speaker 4: Oh she's so smart. No, no, she was, And she's

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Speaker 4: an interior designer by the way, and had a show

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Speaker 4: on Bravo called Sweet Home Oklahoma. It lasted for maybe

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Speaker 4: two seasons. Right, that's who she is. But here's where

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Speaker 4: she's found an opportunity for fame. Let that be their fame.

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Speaker 1: Let that happen.

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Speaker 4: The more that happens, the more you see this woman

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Speaker 4: with you know, just sneering and snarling and for me, right,

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Speaker 4: not not what I find attractive, people will decide for

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Speaker 4: themselves what young man is going to be connected to that,

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Speaker 4: what younger person wants to say, like see that and

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Speaker 4: be like I want to emulate that nothing. There's nothing

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Speaker 4: there to emulate. There's nothing there to be a part of.

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Speaker 4: There's nothing there to be connected to. I say, let

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Speaker 4: her rise, Let Jasmine Crockett rise.

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Speaker 1: Let us utilize them for the fodder they are.

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Speaker 4: They may profit from it, right, You can't stop that

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Speaker 4: from happening sometimes, But let.

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Speaker 1: Their hatred, their vitriol, their ignorance, let it rise.

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Speaker 4: Not so much that it's going to inspire the progressive left,

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Speaker 4: but rather others will see.

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Speaker 1: It and say, my gosh, I want no part of it.

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Speaker 4: Would I rather they weren't like this, Yes, of course,

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Speaker 4: would I rather they had no popularity?

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Speaker 1: Absolutely?

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Speaker 4: But do I think that it is somehow impactful to

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Speaker 4: the country that we can lose elections from them? No,

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Speaker 4: I think they can help themselves lose elections.

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Speaker 1: I do. Now.

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Speaker 4: There is a philosophy about going harder left and harder

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Speaker 4: left and harder left, because what people don't want is

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Speaker 4: to see their people equivocate.

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Speaker 1: How much is true, But.

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Speaker 4: I think just from the appearances and the presentation, you

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Speaker 4: gotta bet against their success.

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Speaker 1: Find everything at Tony Katts dot com tomorrow. Everyone take

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Speaker 1: care