1 00:00:05,200 --> 00:00:10,800 Speaker 1: Live from Vall Hartman and the Crossroads of America. It's 2 00:00:10,840 --> 00:00:44,240 Speaker 1: Tony Kats today. 3 00:00:52,520 --> 00:00:55,840 Speaker 2: You know, we uh, we deal with a lot each 4 00:00:55,880 --> 00:01:00,120 Speaker 2: and every day. We deal with some madness each and 5 00:01:00,160 --> 00:01:07,720 Speaker 2: every day. But I had absolutely no idea. I'm so 6 00:01:08,040 --> 00:01:09,880 Speaker 2: focused on getting ready. 7 00:01:11,560 --> 00:01:12,280 Speaker 3: For the show. 8 00:01:17,319 --> 00:01:23,400 Speaker 2: The reporting is just absolutely positively awful. 9 00:01:23,480 --> 00:01:25,040 Speaker 3: And you say to me, Tony, what are you? What 10 00:01:25,080 --> 00:01:27,760 Speaker 3: are you referring to? Tony? What do you what are you? 11 00:01:27,920 --> 00:01:28,960 Speaker 3: What are you talking about? 12 00:01:29,000 --> 00:01:34,200 Speaker 2: I'll tell you what I'm talking about, TMZ. The minute 13 00:01:34,200 --> 00:01:36,000 Speaker 2: you hear it, you're like, Oh, this is gonna be 14 00:01:37,240 --> 00:01:40,520 Speaker 2: this is gonna be bad. Yeah, it's gonna be awful. 15 00:01:40,600 --> 00:01:43,280 Speaker 2: Tony Katz, Tony Katz today. 16 00:01:43,200 --> 00:01:44,360 Speaker 3: Good to be with you. 17 00:01:44,920 --> 00:01:47,840 Speaker 2: Eight three three four six eight eight six six nine 18 00:01:47,960 --> 00:01:54,080 Speaker 2: eight three three. I got Tony TMZ reporting and they 19 00:01:54,120 --> 00:02:10,600 Speaker 2: could be wrong. I want them to be wrong. Hul 20 00:02:10,720 --> 00:02:24,920 Speaker 2: Cogan dead at seventy one, Ozzie and Hulk in the 21 00:02:24,919 --> 00:02:32,000 Speaker 2: same week. I can't even imagine that hul Cogan was 22 00:02:32,000 --> 00:02:42,640 Speaker 2: in anybody's deadpool. The reporting is cardiac arrests. Athardes went 23 00:02:42,760 --> 00:02:47,760 Speaker 2: to his home in clear Water. 24 00:02:50,520 --> 00:03:00,360 Speaker 3: Ah. That is a kick. That is a kick right there. 25 00:03:02,400 --> 00:03:04,360 Speaker 3: I mean Admittedly, the last time you saw. 26 00:03:04,240 --> 00:03:07,440 Speaker 2: Him saw him was during the campaign. During the convention 27 00:03:08,120 --> 00:03:10,760 Speaker 2: he ripped off the shirt. I had made the promise 28 00:03:11,080 --> 00:03:14,000 Speaker 2: that if he ripped off his shirt during the RNC. 29 00:03:14,080 --> 00:03:15,880 Speaker 3: I would buy everybody ice cream. And he did it, 30 00:03:16,000 --> 00:03:17,960 Speaker 3: and I literally had to give away ice cream. 31 00:03:19,480 --> 00:03:21,080 Speaker 2: It had to be where I lived to get it. Listen, 32 00:03:21,160 --> 00:03:29,760 Speaker 2: I can't. I can't drive it everywhere, right I would. 33 00:03:30,520 --> 00:03:34,720 Speaker 2: I'm willing to Wow. I'm sorry. I mean, I know 34 00:03:34,800 --> 00:03:37,680 Speaker 2: we're we're supposed to saw in politics, Tony. He's hull 35 00:03:37,920 --> 00:03:46,360 Speaker 2: freaking Hogan. That is nuts. That is honestly, I'm not 36 00:03:46,480 --> 00:03:48,760 Speaker 2: sure I could take much more madness. 37 00:03:50,920 --> 00:03:56,000 Speaker 3: I need. I wasn't gonna hit all the cultural stuff. 38 00:03:56,040 --> 00:03:59,200 Speaker 2: Can I hit you with three cultural things today that 39 00:03:59,240 --> 00:04:02,360 Speaker 2: are unbelievab Well, all right, so. 40 00:04:02,360 --> 00:04:04,280 Speaker 3: First this this I didn't know. 41 00:04:06,280 --> 00:04:12,920 Speaker 2: The death of Paul Cogan at the age of seventy one. 42 00:04:13,160 --> 00:04:15,400 Speaker 2: Then you've got the guys from South Park. Oh my gosh, 43 00:04:15,400 --> 00:04:20,080 Speaker 2: Malcolm Jamal Warner. I forgot. I forgot Malcolm Jamal Warner 44 00:04:20,080 --> 00:04:22,160 Speaker 2: this week. I really am awful. Thank you, Chatrian, I 45 00:04:22,200 --> 00:04:26,599 Speaker 2: appreciate it. Then then you have South Park. This is 46 00:04:26,600 --> 00:04:29,520 Speaker 2: cultural things not talking about just everyone who has passed 47 00:04:31,720 --> 00:04:39,600 Speaker 2: South Park just signed a deal. Trey Parker, Max Stone. 48 00:04:40,279 --> 00:04:46,200 Speaker 2: The deal is it with Paramount. They are going to 49 00:04:46,240 --> 00:04:48,400 Speaker 2: now be a Paramount now has the ability to stream 50 00:04:48,680 --> 00:04:53,760 Speaker 2: South Park. It's a five year deal one point five 51 00:04:53,920 --> 00:05:02,080 Speaker 2: billion dollars one point five million. And I'm telling you 52 00:05:02,160 --> 00:05:06,159 Speaker 2: right now, I think that Paramount got off easy. 53 00:05:07,160 --> 00:05:07,360 Speaker 3: Oh. 54 00:05:07,400 --> 00:05:09,600 Speaker 2: I think South Park is worth way more than one 55 00:05:09,600 --> 00:05:12,760 Speaker 2: point five billion, because if we want to talk culture, 56 00:05:13,760 --> 00:05:17,839 Speaker 2: south Park still just knocking it out of the park. 57 00:05:18,560 --> 00:05:20,960 Speaker 2: I thought I'd understood the culture war, and then I 58 00:05:20,960 --> 00:05:23,080 Speaker 2: saw the Book of Mormon and I said, I don't. 59 00:05:23,320 --> 00:05:27,200 Speaker 2: I don't understand anything. That thing is a work of art. 60 00:05:27,360 --> 00:05:29,640 Speaker 2: It is unbelievable. 61 00:05:31,080 --> 00:05:35,600 Speaker 3: One point five billion dollars for south Park and the 62 00:05:35,800 --> 00:05:39,200 Speaker 3: the first south Park is lampooning Trump. 63 00:05:41,760 --> 00:05:46,400 Speaker 2: I mean, what is anybody anybody be on the pale? 64 00:05:46,440 --> 00:05:48,560 Speaker 2: Somehow people can be avoided. 65 00:05:48,600 --> 00:05:49,560 Speaker 3: No, no, no, no, no no. 66 00:05:49,600 --> 00:05:55,360 Speaker 2: Everyone everyone takes their time in the barrel, right, Everybody 67 00:05:55,400 --> 00:05:59,719 Speaker 2: takes their hits. But the one that has me kind 68 00:05:59,760 --> 00:06:06,840 Speaker 2: of a flummixed is Emmanuel Macron, the President of France. Seriously, 69 00:06:07,120 --> 00:06:08,880 Speaker 2: I was not planning on starting the show this way, 70 00:06:08,920 --> 00:06:11,120 Speaker 2: but the whole Cogan. Thing just threw me, threw me 71 00:06:11,200 --> 00:06:14,880 Speaker 2: way way way off haul Cogan. According to TMZ, dead 72 00:06:14,880 --> 00:06:22,000 Speaker 2: at the age of seventy one. That's just nutty, that's nutty. 73 00:06:22,720 --> 00:06:27,000 Speaker 2: The President of France, Emmanuel Macron, has filed the defamation 74 00:06:27,120 --> 00:06:32,360 Speaker 2: law suit against Candice Owns. So this goes to what 75 00:06:32,520 --> 00:06:40,479 Speaker 2: can be described and discussed as a rumor. There are many, many, 76 00:06:40,760 --> 00:06:46,480 Speaker 2: many rumors out there. This is one of them. The 77 00:06:46,600 --> 00:06:49,200 Speaker 2: rumor is I thought I had. 78 00:06:49,080 --> 00:06:52,200 Speaker 3: My rumor music. Do I not have that? I don't 79 00:06:52,200 --> 00:06:55,760 Speaker 3: have to go get that. The rumor mill is. 80 00:06:57,680 --> 00:07:06,760 Speaker 2: That the the wife of Emmanuel Macron, Bridget Macron, is 81 00:07:06,760 --> 00:07:10,320 Speaker 2: not a woman. That has been a rumor for nine 82 00:07:10,440 --> 00:07:16,400 Speaker 2: but jillion years. I've heard that a million times. My 83 00:07:16,680 --> 00:07:22,440 Speaker 2: problem is, and I mean this, I don't care. I 84 00:07:22,480 --> 00:07:25,680 Speaker 2: spend no time thinking about Emmanuel Macron. I don't spend 85 00:07:25,680 --> 00:07:28,960 Speaker 2: any time thinking about her, and I have no reason 86 00:07:28,960 --> 00:07:31,840 Speaker 2: to believe the rumor is true. No matter how she looks, 87 00:07:32,640 --> 00:07:34,360 Speaker 2: I don't quite understand the relationship. 88 00:07:34,480 --> 00:07:37,320 Speaker 3: She is much older than he is. This has been 89 00:07:37,360 --> 00:07:39,680 Speaker 3: going on for years. It is very odd, it is 90 00:07:39,920 --> 00:07:43,239 Speaker 3: very awkward, It is very Roman Polanski ask in my view, 91 00:07:43,800 --> 00:07:46,640 Speaker 3: and then you could argue it is outrageously French. 92 00:07:50,360 --> 00:07:56,040 Speaker 2: So I guess Owens has been saying this a lot, 93 00:07:56,360 --> 00:08:02,480 Speaker 2: and so they're suing, saying that she has published at 94 00:08:02,560 --> 00:08:07,120 Speaker 2: landish tofamatory and far fetched fictions causing substantial reputational damage 95 00:08:07,360 --> 00:08:09,280 Speaker 2: and substantial economic damages. 96 00:08:10,520 --> 00:08:12,440 Speaker 3: I'm convinced that the only. 97 00:08:12,240 --> 00:08:17,880 Speaker 2: Reputation that Candace Owens has substantially or or successfully damaged 98 00:08:18,000 --> 00:08:20,960 Speaker 2: is her own. Because if you're still paying attention to 99 00:08:21,000 --> 00:08:27,480 Speaker 2: Candace Owens, there's something wrong with you. That that freak, 100 00:08:28,720 --> 00:08:32,600 Speaker 2: that clear uh let me go down the bigot hole 101 00:08:32,720 --> 00:08:39,959 Speaker 2: freak was given every opportunity and decided normal normals just dumb. 102 00:08:40,080 --> 00:08:44,160 Speaker 3: Let me be this person. It doesn't matter what it is. 103 00:08:44,280 --> 00:08:47,559 Speaker 2: It relates back to the Jews. 104 00:08:49,679 --> 00:08:52,160 Speaker 3: That's that's that's that's that's how these people spell it. 105 00:08:54,200 --> 00:08:56,400 Speaker 2: I mean you, you're sitting down with Nick Flentes to 106 00:08:56,440 --> 00:09:00,440 Speaker 2: have a conversation. Chances are you're not okay. Well hold 107 00:09:00,480 --> 00:09:02,800 Speaker 2: on wait, I don't think you're okay. She may be 108 00:09:03,080 --> 00:09:13,400 Speaker 2: just fine. She's ridiculous. Who I don't know who still 109 00:09:13,440 --> 00:09:15,960 Speaker 2: follows her. I don't know why people pay attention to her. 110 00:09:16,720 --> 00:09:19,920 Speaker 2: Dopey as can be as wrong as can be as 111 00:09:20,440 --> 00:09:24,520 Speaker 2: it's not even it's not even in the weeds. There 112 00:09:24,600 --> 00:09:26,560 Speaker 2: was actually a really good post. 113 00:09:26,640 --> 00:09:29,880 Speaker 3: I should have reached out. I should. I don't know. 114 00:09:29,880 --> 00:09:34,920 Speaker 2: Maybe she's available right now, I'll text her. Do you 115 00:09:34,920 --> 00:09:36,040 Speaker 2: know the chicks on the right. 116 00:09:39,480 --> 00:09:40,160 Speaker 3: They used to. 117 00:09:40,200 --> 00:09:42,439 Speaker 2: Use nicknames Mock and Daisy. I don't know if they 118 00:09:42,480 --> 00:09:49,000 Speaker 2: still do anymore. Hold on a second, let me ask her, 119 00:09:49,520 --> 00:09:51,760 Speaker 2: are you available to come on air and talk about 120 00:09:51,840 --> 00:09:58,199 Speaker 2: Candace Owens? Because they they put out a post that 121 00:09:58,320 --> 00:10:02,800 Speaker 2: I guess I don't know. Candace Owens asked to interview them. 122 00:10:02,880 --> 00:10:06,319 Speaker 2: And they were radio hosts where my main station on 123 00:10:06,400 --> 00:10:09,360 Speaker 2: ninety three point one FMWIBC, but they were always bigger online. 124 00:10:09,400 --> 00:10:10,959 Speaker 3: I never understood why they even did radio. 125 00:10:11,040 --> 00:10:13,200 Speaker 2: They could just be doing podcasting, and now they're doing podcasting. 126 00:10:13,240 --> 00:10:13,800 Speaker 3: It's fine. 127 00:10:14,880 --> 00:10:16,720 Speaker 2: And they were like, yeah, there's no point in doing 128 00:10:16,720 --> 00:10:21,600 Speaker 2: this interview. It was really a fascinating take. Their argument 129 00:10:21,679 --> 00:10:25,040 Speaker 2: was that what is the point of having this discussion, 130 00:10:25,200 --> 00:10:29,240 Speaker 2: of engaging this conversation. What's the point of doing this 131 00:10:29,600 --> 00:10:32,360 Speaker 2: with somebody who is not going to listen to you 132 00:10:32,679 --> 00:10:36,960 Speaker 2: and is going to put themselves in the pseudo intellectual minutia. 133 00:10:37,960 --> 00:10:39,319 Speaker 3: In an effort to. 134 00:10:39,400 --> 00:10:43,760 Speaker 2: Never actually engage, and I said, well, I think this 135 00:10:43,840 --> 00:10:46,240 Speaker 2: is how a lot of people feel. I think this 136 00:10:46,400 --> 00:10:50,040 Speaker 2: is very much how we all discuss it so often 137 00:10:50,720 --> 00:10:51,960 Speaker 2: in our own lives. 138 00:10:53,160 --> 00:10:53,720 Speaker 4: And it. 139 00:10:55,920 --> 00:11:02,040 Speaker 2: Connected with another piece that exists a guy I don't 140 00:11:02,080 --> 00:11:05,440 Speaker 2: know by the name of Nick Fratus, is that his 141 00:11:05,559 --> 00:11:11,440 Speaker 2: last name. He's a he's an assemblyment in Virginia, and 142 00:11:11,600 --> 00:11:14,440 Speaker 2: he's like, I think I have finally figured out the 143 00:11:14,559 --> 00:11:19,880 Speaker 2: left and this was a very very interesting, interesting take. 144 00:11:20,679 --> 00:11:22,880 Speaker 3: Listen, well, I think. 145 00:11:22,760 --> 00:11:24,560 Speaker 5: I'm finally able to define what it is I've been 146 00:11:24,559 --> 00:11:26,600 Speaker 5: experiencing for close to ten years now whenever I get 147 00:11:26,640 --> 00:11:28,360 Speaker 5: into a conversation with someone who is woke. 148 00:11:28,440 --> 00:11:30,079 Speaker 3: Now I don't mean someone who's liberal. I mean someone 149 00:11:30,080 --> 00:11:30,960 Speaker 3: who is proudly woke. 150 00:11:31,400 --> 00:11:34,040 Speaker 5: You see, I'm trying to debate and they are trying 151 00:11:34,040 --> 00:11:34,800 Speaker 5: to diagnose. 152 00:11:35,080 --> 00:11:39,000 Speaker 2: Let me give you an example before you say that. 153 00:11:39,000 --> 00:11:46,040 Speaker 3: That's a really well stated moment. There you're trying to 154 00:11:46,080 --> 00:11:47,760 Speaker 3: debate and they're trying to diagnose. You. 155 00:11:47,800 --> 00:11:54,360 Speaker 2: See, you are honestly engaging the conversation. They have decided 156 00:11:54,360 --> 00:11:55,280 Speaker 2: there's something. 157 00:11:55,040 --> 00:11:55,880 Speaker 3: Wrong with you. 158 00:11:57,480 --> 00:12:02,839 Speaker 2: It's this is very much along the line of Charles Crowdhammer, 159 00:12:02,880 --> 00:12:06,960 Speaker 2: the late Charles crownhammer. The right thinks the left is wrong, 160 00:12:07,080 --> 00:12:11,120 Speaker 2: the left thinks the right is evil. It's very much 161 00:12:11,160 --> 00:12:14,040 Speaker 2: along those lines. And what Nick is about to get 162 00:12:14,040 --> 00:12:15,880 Speaker 2: into it, I don't know anything else about the dude, 163 00:12:16,800 --> 00:12:19,160 Speaker 2: is is this true differentiation? 164 00:12:19,400 --> 00:12:21,880 Speaker 5: Listen, Let's say I were to say something crazy like 165 00:12:22,080 --> 00:12:23,240 Speaker 5: I'm open to immigration. 166 00:12:23,320 --> 00:12:24,439 Speaker 3: I just think it should be legal. 167 00:12:24,480 --> 00:12:26,040 Speaker 5: I also think we need a strong border and we 168 00:12:26,080 --> 00:12:28,400 Speaker 5: need significant immigration reform before we continue. 169 00:12:28,760 --> 00:12:31,000 Speaker 3: Oh so you're xenophobic. No. 170 00:12:31,240 --> 00:12:33,640 Speaker 5: I don't have an irrational fear or hatred toward other 171 00:12:33,679 --> 00:12:36,160 Speaker 5: people or cultures. But I do believe the culture matters. 172 00:12:36,160 --> 00:12:38,120 Speaker 5: And if you're coming from a cultural tradition which has 173 00:12:38,240 --> 00:12:41,199 Speaker 5: very very different customs, traditions, and legal standards in the 174 00:12:41,280 --> 00:12:43,080 Speaker 5: United States, well that might not be the best for 175 00:12:43,120 --> 00:12:45,200 Speaker 5: social cohesion, especially when it comes in the form of 176 00:12:45,200 --> 00:12:46,280 Speaker 5: massive legal immigration. 177 00:12:46,800 --> 00:12:49,240 Speaker 3: Oh so you're racist. No. 178 00:12:49,240 --> 00:12:51,959 Speaker 5: No, I don't believe in the inherence, superiority, or inferiority 179 00:12:52,160 --> 00:12:54,360 Speaker 5: of any person based off of their race. I think 180 00:12:54,360 --> 00:12:56,800 Speaker 5: people should be judged based off of their individual actions 181 00:12:56,840 --> 00:12:58,800 Speaker 5: and character. But let me give you an example to 182 00:12:58,800 --> 00:13:01,600 Speaker 5: clarify my position. If you were to mass impore people 183 00:13:01,600 --> 00:13:04,439 Speaker 5: from a country where they believe that it's perfectly reasonable 184 00:13:04,440 --> 00:13:07,400 Speaker 5: to criminally prosecute when for showing their hair in public 185 00:13:07,960 --> 00:13:11,280 Speaker 5: that might not lead to the best blending with American society. 186 00:13:11,320 --> 00:13:15,160 Speaker 5: You get what I mean? Oh yeah, so you're aslamophobic. Okay, 187 00:13:15,400 --> 00:13:16,160 Speaker 5: I see what you're doing. 188 00:13:16,160 --> 00:13:16,360 Speaker 3: Now. 189 00:13:16,480 --> 00:13:18,960 Speaker 5: This is not about even trying to understand my arguments 190 00:13:19,040 --> 00:13:22,120 Speaker 5: or perspective. This is all about trying to incorrectly diagnose 191 00:13:22,160 --> 00:13:25,000 Speaker 5: me so you can then ignore all of my arguments and. 192 00:13:24,960 --> 00:13:29,880 Speaker 3: Perspectives correct, super accurate, right on the money. There. 193 00:13:31,840 --> 00:13:35,320 Speaker 2: It is that same philosophy of what would be the 194 00:13:35,360 --> 00:13:38,080 Speaker 2: point of what's the point of listening to? Never mind 195 00:13:38,080 --> 00:13:42,000 Speaker 2: speaking with Candice OANs? What do you get a game 196 00:13:42,040 --> 00:13:44,960 Speaker 2: from that? There is no wind to be had. It 197 00:13:45,040 --> 00:13:48,720 Speaker 2: was interesting that the chicks and the right went down 198 00:13:48,760 --> 00:13:52,640 Speaker 2: that road, like what is the value here? Because I 199 00:13:52,679 --> 00:13:54,920 Speaker 2: thought I thought they said it, well, what is the 200 00:13:55,600 --> 00:13:59,960 Speaker 2: value of doing this? I'm a guy who believes in conversation, 201 00:14:00,080 --> 00:14:02,920 Speaker 2: and we're going to get into to some of that. 202 00:14:06,400 --> 00:14:09,880 Speaker 2: What's the point of speaking to her if everything is well, 203 00:14:09,920 --> 00:14:11,040 Speaker 2: you know the Jews. 204 00:14:10,679 --> 00:14:13,040 Speaker 3: Are, and well you know Israel is, and well, you 205 00:14:13,080 --> 00:14:15,720 Speaker 3: know he is an agent of masade into this and then. 206 00:14:17,920 --> 00:14:21,520 Speaker 2: I don't think that Kansas is any more nutty than 207 00:14:21,560 --> 00:14:25,480 Speaker 2: Bridge McCrone. I don't think she's any less nutty than 208 00:14:25,520 --> 00:14:29,600 Speaker 2: Bridge of Macron. And is Candace a woman or a man? 209 00:14:29,640 --> 00:14:33,360 Speaker 2: I have absolutely no idea. I never looked, I never asked, 210 00:14:33,640 --> 00:14:40,880 Speaker 2: I never cared. I do, however, find it amazing that 211 00:14:41,040 --> 00:14:45,520 Speaker 2: people still follow her. She's got like six million online 212 00:14:45,520 --> 00:14:49,480 Speaker 2: followers there on twitter X. What What has she ever 213 00:14:49,600 --> 00:14:55,360 Speaker 2: offered you? What is she providing for you? The one 214 00:14:55,440 --> 00:14:57,800 Speaker 2: quick story I have I've never met her. 215 00:14:58,800 --> 00:14:59,720 Speaker 3: I'll tell you this story. 216 00:15:00,160 --> 00:15:04,200 Speaker 2: I was at an event where they were bringing her 217 00:15:04,240 --> 00:15:08,320 Speaker 2: in to speak, and I'm like, okay, but it ain't 218 00:15:08,360 --> 00:15:09,120 Speaker 2: gonna be interesting. 219 00:15:10,520 --> 00:15:12,680 Speaker 3: It's gonna be about her. It's not going to be interesting. 220 00:15:13,040 --> 00:15:15,120 Speaker 3: And they had a whole meet and greet before I 221 00:15:15,200 --> 00:15:17,520 Speaker 3: didn't move the five feet to go shake her hand, 222 00:15:18,880 --> 00:15:22,840 Speaker 3: No thank you. And this was before everything fell off 223 00:15:22,880 --> 00:15:24,240 Speaker 3: the cliff, and sure enough. 224 00:15:25,040 --> 00:15:26,880 Speaker 2: The event will don't get me wrong, the event did 225 00:15:27,000 --> 00:15:30,120 Speaker 2: sell out because there was a lot of hope for 226 00:15:30,560 --> 00:15:34,920 Speaker 2: Candace Owens. But it was a lot about her, not 227 00:15:35,040 --> 00:15:37,400 Speaker 2: about philosophy and theory and where we're going and how 228 00:15:37,440 --> 00:15:38,320 Speaker 2: we get there, et cetera. 229 00:15:40,640 --> 00:15:41,760 Speaker 3: Nobody I think predicted. 230 00:15:41,840 --> 00:15:44,920 Speaker 2: I certainly did this fall off the cliff of sanity, 231 00:15:46,040 --> 00:15:48,600 Speaker 2: but I don't know what makes her somehow more sane, 232 00:15:48,680 --> 00:15:52,240 Speaker 2: more rational than Bridget Macrome. I'm also not sure how 233 00:15:52,280 --> 00:15:54,360 Speaker 2: the macarones are gonna sue and how they're gonna get 234 00:15:54,400 --> 00:15:59,640 Speaker 2: anything these public figures, et cetera. But just another bit 235 00:15:59,760 --> 00:16:05,360 Speaker 2: of of cultural madness going on. But as somebody mentioned 236 00:16:05,800 --> 00:16:12,640 Speaker 2: in the chat this week, this week we've lost Ozzy Osbourne, 237 00:16:12,800 --> 00:16:15,400 Speaker 2: theo Huxtable, and now as of today as TMZ is 238 00:16:15,440 --> 00:16:19,800 Speaker 2: reporting Hulk Hogan. As Gary wrote, thank you twenty twenty 239 00:16:19,840 --> 00:16:25,480 Speaker 2: five for trashing my childhood. I should note Gary that 240 00:16:27,560 --> 00:16:33,400 Speaker 2: we're only halfway through twenty twenty five. Sorry, I'm Tony Kats. 241 00:16:33,480 --> 00:16:34,800 Speaker 2: This is Tony Kats. 242 00:16:34,840 --> 00:16:36,080 Speaker 3: Today. The story is. 243 00:16:38,120 --> 00:16:41,040 Speaker 2: The Columbia University is going to pay two hundred and 244 00:16:41,120 --> 00:16:51,520 Speaker 2: twenty million dollars to the federal government two hundred and 245 00:16:51,760 --> 00:16:56,440 Speaker 2: twenty million. This standoff with the Trump administration, the failure 246 00:16:56,520 --> 00:17:01,040 Speaker 2: to protect Jewish students on campus. Say it differently, to 247 00:17:01,120 --> 00:17:06,880 Speaker 2: protect students on campus. That's what they failed to do. No, wait, 248 00:17:07,040 --> 00:17:10,120 Speaker 2: that's not even right. They failed to protect the basic 249 00:17:10,240 --> 00:17:12,200 Speaker 2: standard of what the campus should be doing. 250 00:17:12,960 --> 00:17:14,080 Speaker 3: No, Wait, that's wrong. 251 00:17:14,880 --> 00:17:19,680 Speaker 2: Columbia University proactively supported the supporters of terrorism and terrorists 252 00:17:19,960 --> 00:17:24,080 Speaker 2: engaging in terrorists like activities to intimidate students and threaten 253 00:17:24,160 --> 00:17:26,399 Speaker 2: students on their campus to keep them from speaking. 254 00:17:26,560 --> 00:17:30,640 Speaker 3: Tony, my god, you could go pro that's what they did. 255 00:17:32,480 --> 00:17:34,359 Speaker 2: The agreement says the university is going to pay a 256 00:17:34,359 --> 00:17:36,879 Speaker 2: two hundred million dollar settlement over the next three years, 257 00:17:37,480 --> 00:17:42,120 Speaker 2: an additional twenty one million to resolve alleged civil rights 258 00:17:42,240 --> 00:17:49,240 Speaker 2: violations against Jewish faculty members. You've got Columbia calling it 259 00:17:49,359 --> 00:17:52,280 Speaker 2: an important step forward, noting that it paves the way 260 00:17:52,359 --> 00:17:55,040 Speaker 2: for the reinstatement of the majority of the four hundred 261 00:17:55,040 --> 00:17:58,679 Speaker 2: million dollars in federal grants that the administration polled earlier 262 00:17:58,760 --> 00:18:03,800 Speaker 2: this year. I'm starting to see what it is that 263 00:18:06,040 --> 00:18:10,000 Speaker 2: William Jacobson, Cornell law professor, was saying when he wrote 264 00:18:10,080 --> 00:18:13,359 Speaker 2: Columbia one. If you don't understand why, then you don't 265 00:18:13,400 --> 00:18:14,560 Speaker 2: understand academia. 266 00:18:16,359 --> 00:18:17,960 Speaker 3: Remember he's Cornell law professor, and. 267 00:18:19,000 --> 00:18:25,879 Speaker 2: He's he is making an outrageously good point here that 268 00:18:26,000 --> 00:18:27,480 Speaker 2: I think has been missed in it all. 269 00:18:28,760 --> 00:18:31,760 Speaker 3: We'll look at this top line. Yeah, Colombia learned their lesson. 270 00:18:32,760 --> 00:18:34,680 Speaker 2: If you told me, hey, you give you two hundred 271 00:18:34,720 --> 00:18:36,600 Speaker 2: twenty million, I'll give you four hundred million. You know 272 00:18:36,680 --> 00:18:41,240 Speaker 2: what I would do, I'd give you two hundred twenty 273 00:18:41,240 --> 00:18:45,160 Speaker 2: million dollars. I'd give you two hundred and twenty million 274 00:18:45,160 --> 00:18:50,000 Speaker 2: dollars or not thing twice because the follow up is 275 00:18:50,600 --> 00:18:51,320 Speaker 2: what happens? 276 00:18:51,400 --> 00:18:51,560 Speaker 6: Now? 277 00:18:53,160 --> 00:18:58,760 Speaker 2: What's the penalty for this happening again? What changes are 278 00:18:58,880 --> 00:19:03,000 Speaker 2: made at Columbia? And the answer is. 279 00:19:05,240 --> 00:19:11,360 Speaker 3: How if I know? Because it doesn't seem like any 280 00:19:11,600 --> 00:19:13,960 Speaker 3: changes have to be made. 281 00:19:14,440 --> 00:19:16,680 Speaker 2: You want to hold them accountable, that's one thing, but 282 00:19:16,800 --> 00:19:21,359 Speaker 2: you haven't really held them accountable. You held them pretend accountable. 283 00:19:23,040 --> 00:19:25,920 Speaker 2: Can't Columbia just go about being what it is, teaching 284 00:19:25,960 --> 00:19:29,560 Speaker 2: the way teachers in a different way with government money. 285 00:19:29,640 --> 00:19:31,359 Speaker 3: Now tonny cash to that. 286 00:19:32,280 --> 00:19:34,919 Speaker 7: So SAMs, the vice president of the NA will be here. 287 00:19:35,000 --> 00:19:35,600 Speaker 3: So we got to. 288 00:19:37,520 --> 00:19:42,120 Speaker 7: Your unions that represent many millions of teachers and paraprofessionals 289 00:19:42,160 --> 00:19:46,119 Speaker 7: are going to be here in a moment. Let me 290 00:19:46,240 --> 00:19:51,439 Speaker 7: just start by getting in a sense away from education 291 00:19:51,600 --> 00:19:54,680 Speaker 7: a little bit to say that it seems to me 292 00:19:54,800 --> 00:19:58,200 Speaker 7: and I think to most Americans that when we talk 293 00:19:58,280 --> 00:20:01,480 Speaker 7: about the future of our country, we are talking about 294 00:20:01,560 --> 00:20:02,159 Speaker 7: our children. 295 00:20:03,480 --> 00:20:06,600 Speaker 3: And for those no, no, no, Bernie, you've got it wrong. 296 00:20:07,160 --> 00:20:10,440 Speaker 2: When we're talking about the future of education, we're talking 297 00:20:10,480 --> 00:20:15,320 Speaker 2: about our children, or in the future in general. When 298 00:20:15,400 --> 00:20:18,520 Speaker 2: you talk about the future of education, you're talking about 299 00:20:18,600 --> 00:20:23,520 Speaker 2: having control of our children. Do we see what's going 300 00:20:23,600 --> 00:20:27,680 Speaker 2: on here? Do we see the difference? Tony Katz, Tony 301 00:20:27,760 --> 00:20:32,880 Speaker 2: Kats today, Good to be with you, Bernie the socialist 302 00:20:32,960 --> 00:20:37,560 Speaker 2: from Vermont, Oh, I'm sorry, Democratic socialist? Sure sure, whatever, 303 00:20:37,840 --> 00:20:40,200 Speaker 2: whatever dress up you want to play with the words booboo, 304 00:20:40,720 --> 00:20:41,439 Speaker 2: we know what's what. 305 00:20:42,920 --> 00:20:46,760 Speaker 3: We under. Leah Thomas can call himself lea all he wants. 306 00:20:47,480 --> 00:20:51,359 Speaker 3: We know Bernie can call him a himself a democratic 307 00:20:51,440 --> 00:20:54,840 Speaker 3: socialist all he wants. But we know. 308 00:20:56,520 --> 00:21:00,280 Speaker 2: They're they're having a whole thing about education. And they 309 00:21:00,359 --> 00:21:08,360 Speaker 2: started by cheering. Then e a, you mean the Becky Pringle. 310 00:21:09,600 --> 00:21:09,920 Speaker 3: Any a? 311 00:21:11,400 --> 00:21:16,440 Speaker 2: Do you mean the same Rebecca Pringle who says that 312 00:21:16,640 --> 00:21:20,040 Speaker 2: we have to be absolutely. 313 00:21:19,400 --> 00:21:24,280 Speaker 3: In love with the idea of DEI. We have to 314 00:21:24,400 --> 00:21:30,120 Speaker 3: adore the de I are are are this this one? 315 00:21:30,400 --> 00:21:33,200 Speaker 3: This any a? We cannot fear. 316 00:21:35,200 --> 00:21:39,520 Speaker 8: The future diversity, equity and inclusion. 317 00:21:40,160 --> 00:21:46,639 Speaker 9: Say the words, say the words, say you are powerful 318 00:21:47,280 --> 00:21:51,360 Speaker 9: you are the aide o head, hide. 319 00:21:52,800 --> 00:21:54,880 Speaker 3: Head hide any. 320 00:21:58,280 --> 00:21:58,760 Speaker 10: Freedom? 321 00:22:00,280 --> 00:22:04,919 Speaker 3: Oh freedom whosor lead? 322 00:22:07,760 --> 00:22:08,000 Speaker 6: Yeah? 323 00:22:11,600 --> 00:22:14,320 Speaker 2: Yetta love it when someone channels their inner Howard Dean 324 00:22:15,800 --> 00:22:17,280 Speaker 2: and does it unabashedly. 325 00:22:19,119 --> 00:22:21,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, I wouldn't let that woman educate my kids. I 326 00:22:21,320 --> 00:22:25,320 Speaker 3: don't want that woman anywhere near my kids nowhere near. 327 00:22:27,000 --> 00:22:29,719 Speaker 2: So they want to have a conversation do these progressives 328 00:22:29,760 --> 00:22:30,520 Speaker 2: about education? 329 00:22:30,880 --> 00:22:35,400 Speaker 7: To proclaim great love for this country, one might think 330 00:22:36,720 --> 00:22:40,119 Speaker 7: that they would be doing everything that they can be 331 00:22:40,280 --> 00:22:43,439 Speaker 7: doing to improve the lives of our kids, all right, 332 00:22:44,200 --> 00:22:48,040 Speaker 7: And yet in America today, the richest country in the 333 00:22:48,280 --> 00:22:52,440 Speaker 7: history of the world, where we have massive. 334 00:22:52,160 --> 00:22:55,800 Speaker 11: Income wealth inequality, where the people on top have never 335 00:22:56,160 --> 00:23:01,240 Speaker 11: ever ever had it so good as a nation, and shamefully, 336 00:23:02,280 --> 00:23:06,840 Speaker 11: we have the higher rate of childhood poverty of almost 337 00:23:06,920 --> 00:23:08,520 Speaker 11: any major country on earth. 338 00:23:08,640 --> 00:23:12,480 Speaker 7: And I am quite sure that every teacher here runs 339 00:23:12,640 --> 00:23:14,760 Speaker 7: into that poverty every day. Right. 340 00:23:15,280 --> 00:23:18,120 Speaker 2: I think you should take some of the money you've 341 00:23:18,200 --> 00:23:20,399 Speaker 2: made from your books and you should give it to 342 00:23:20,480 --> 00:23:23,480 Speaker 2: these kids. And maybe we'd have a better education system 343 00:23:23,920 --> 00:23:32,840 Speaker 2: if your wife didn't bankrupt colleges. I don't know why 344 00:23:33,200 --> 00:23:33,960 Speaker 2: he still. 345 00:23:33,760 --> 00:23:38,119 Speaker 3: Goes down the road of discussing wealth inequality, except of 346 00:23:38,200 --> 00:23:39,400 Speaker 3: course that when you're a communist. 347 00:23:39,480 --> 00:23:41,320 Speaker 2: These are the things that you discuss if you believe 348 00:23:41,359 --> 00:23:44,000 Speaker 2: in Marxism, and you believe from each according to their measure, 349 00:23:44,040 --> 00:23:46,040 Speaker 2: to each according to their need. You believe that the 350 00:23:46,119 --> 00:23:49,080 Speaker 2: billionaire is evil. You believe that somebody who is wealthy 351 00:23:49,080 --> 00:23:51,680 Speaker 2: has gotten into an ill gotten gain. Remember that's a 352 00:23:51,760 --> 00:23:54,920 Speaker 2: millionaire talking to you right there, Fancy Mittens and all. 353 00:23:57,760 --> 00:23:59,640 Speaker 3: If you want to argue that wealth. 354 00:23:59,480 --> 00:24:04,680 Speaker 2: Gets passed down in such a way that people who 355 00:24:04,840 --> 00:24:07,159 Speaker 2: have it are able to further accumulate, you can. 356 00:24:08,160 --> 00:24:10,960 Speaker 3: You can discuss that the problem is when you discuss 357 00:24:11,040 --> 00:24:14,879 Speaker 3: that as a problem, does the. 358 00:24:14,960 --> 00:24:18,600 Speaker 2: Person who has accumulated wealth and has passed it down 359 00:24:18,800 --> 00:24:22,399 Speaker 2: in their generations to further accumulate the wealth. Have they 360 00:24:22,520 --> 00:24:28,320 Speaker 2: stopped you from accumulating wealth? What specifically has the person done? 361 00:24:28,480 --> 00:24:32,880 Speaker 2: Not the whole you know, broad brush of the thing, right, 362 00:24:32,960 --> 00:24:36,360 Speaker 2: the broad brush of the thing is that somehow these 363 00:24:36,440 --> 00:24:40,800 Speaker 2: people are guilty for their existence. Well, isn't this what 364 00:24:41,560 --> 00:24:47,879 Speaker 2: we see is as the problem regarding dei, which is 365 00:24:48,240 --> 00:24:54,800 Speaker 2: what you just heard Becky Pringle say, we have to 366 00:24:54,920 --> 00:24:59,480 Speaker 2: have But she's not the only one from the NEA. 367 00:25:00,359 --> 00:25:05,639 Speaker 2: You've got Aana Pressley saying we have to have this. 368 00:25:05,800 --> 00:25:08,320 Speaker 2: The congresswoman from Massachusetts. 369 00:25:07,640 --> 00:25:10,240 Speaker 3: Secutive orders dating back to Lynda B. Johnson in the 370 00:25:10,359 --> 00:25:13,399 Speaker 3: nineteen sixties civil rights movement, and in. 371 00:25:13,480 --> 00:25:18,119 Speaker 2: Fact, before we go any further, because it is you 372 00:25:18,240 --> 00:25:21,080 Speaker 2: never know, finger on the dumb button, producer land and 373 00:25:21,119 --> 00:25:21,840 Speaker 2: how do you feel about that? 374 00:25:23,040 --> 00:25:24,200 Speaker 3: That sounds excellent. 375 00:25:24,760 --> 00:25:27,000 Speaker 2: She is standing at a podium in front of the 376 00:25:27,119 --> 00:25:31,480 Speaker 2: Capitol with a sign that reads diversity, equity, and inclusion 377 00:25:31,720 --> 00:25:37,000 Speaker 2: are essential, and there's a bunch of people around her 378 00:25:37,119 --> 00:25:42,399 Speaker 2: holding science. Defend diversity. Diversity, equity, inclusion are essential, essential 379 00:25:42,480 --> 00:25:45,840 Speaker 2: for what. Well, they're essential for bigotry, they're essential for hate, 380 00:25:45,840 --> 00:25:51,320 Speaker 2: they're essential for sowing divisions amongst people. So the essential 381 00:25:51,400 --> 00:25:56,840 Speaker 2: for those things, and defend diversity depends where If you're 382 00:25:56,960 --> 00:26:01,080 Speaker 2: saying that the laws of the land should apply equally 383 00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:03,240 Speaker 2: to everyone, regardless of regardless of the color of their 384 00:26:03,280 --> 00:26:07,479 Speaker 2: skin or socioeconomic status, I'm all in. If you want 385 00:26:07,520 --> 00:26:11,240 Speaker 2: me to defend diversity. When it comes to doctors, I'm 386 00:26:11,359 --> 00:26:16,800 Speaker 2: not going to defend stupid doctors. I want smart doctors. 387 00:26:17,200 --> 00:26:20,200 Speaker 2: Diversity would be smart doctors and stupid doctors. I'm not 388 00:26:20,280 --> 00:26:22,919 Speaker 2: going to defend stupid doctors. I don't want any stupid doctors. 389 00:26:23,240 --> 00:26:26,520 Speaker 2: I also don't want any stupid school bus drivers. I 390 00:26:26,640 --> 00:26:28,520 Speaker 2: want people who know how to drive a school bus. 391 00:26:31,080 --> 00:26:35,840 Speaker 2: Defend diversity is a nonsense bit of terminology. They'll received 392 00:26:35,880 --> 00:26:36,479 Speaker 2: little attention. 393 00:26:36,680 --> 00:26:41,399 Speaker 8: When I introduced an amendment to ban segregation, all the 394 00:26:41,480 --> 00:26:45,280 Speaker 8: Republicans in the House Oversight Committee voted against it. 395 00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:46,760 Speaker 9: The what the. 396 00:26:48,800 --> 00:26:53,080 Speaker 3: What the heck is she talking about? Segregation? Came back? 397 00:26:54,440 --> 00:26:57,800 Speaker 3: Hold on a second, Hold on? Can someone says Robert 398 00:26:57,840 --> 00:26:59,920 Speaker 3: Bird still alive? Did he come back? 399 00:27:00,760 --> 00:27:03,320 Speaker 2: We lost hult COVID, we gained Robert Byrd. That is 400 00:27:03,359 --> 00:27:07,960 Speaker 2: a terrible trade off segregated. 401 00:27:08,440 --> 00:27:11,760 Speaker 3: I have no clue. She doesn't have a clue. It 402 00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:12,640 Speaker 3: doesn't matter. 403 00:27:13,600 --> 00:27:17,040 Speaker 8: Trump and Republicans are trying to force their vision of 404 00:27:17,040 --> 00:27:20,200 Speaker 8: an embolden white supremacy. Is they work to undo centuries 405 00:27:20,280 --> 00:27:25,399 Speaker 8: of progress that generations of organizers, activists and lawmakers have 406 00:27:25,600 --> 00:27:26,640 Speaker 8: fought to achieve. 407 00:27:27,920 --> 00:27:32,760 Speaker 2: I ask you right now this conversation, can you explain 408 00:27:32,880 --> 00:27:38,440 Speaker 2: to me which voter she's going to pick up? Where 409 00:27:38,520 --> 00:27:46,080 Speaker 2: does the Democratic Party? Where do they grow? How possibly 410 00:27:47,240 --> 00:27:55,960 Speaker 2: do they build themselves from this place? You can't there's 411 00:27:56,040 --> 00:27:59,320 Speaker 2: no place to go from here, you know, it's the 412 00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:02,600 Speaker 2: Buffy line, and where do we go from here? That's right, 413 00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:05,320 Speaker 2: Buffy the Vampire Slayer, because that was good TV. Turns 414 00:28:05,359 --> 00:28:07,240 Speaker 2: out Joss Whedon is a total freaking isn't going to 415 00:28:07,280 --> 00:28:09,960 Speaker 2: be directing any DC or Marvel films anytime soon, but 416 00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:13,440 Speaker 2: still incredible television, Sarah Michelle Geller, good on you. 417 00:28:16,280 --> 00:28:21,639 Speaker 3: They can't stop being weird. They can't stop being this 418 00:28:22,119 --> 00:28:23,240 Speaker 3: level of awful. 419 00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:27,480 Speaker 2: And so Bernie Sanders believes that we should be having 420 00:28:27,520 --> 00:28:29,560 Speaker 2: a conversation about education. 421 00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:35,879 Speaker 7: Iri with Johnston Northern Vermont talking to teachers there, probably 422 00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:38,440 Speaker 7: at his summer camp, cool, hungry, not knowing whether they're 423 00:28:38,440 --> 00:28:41,840 Speaker 7: gonna get a decent meal during the day, Kids coming 424 00:28:42,080 --> 00:28:46,480 Speaker 7: from dysfunctional family, kids dealing with trauma every single day. 425 00:28:47,480 --> 00:28:50,360 Speaker 7: I guess who are the people, the professionals who deal 426 00:28:50,400 --> 00:28:51,080 Speaker 7: with that issue. 427 00:28:51,800 --> 00:28:54,920 Speaker 3: You walk and I thank you for doing that. 428 00:28:55,280 --> 00:28:59,000 Speaker 7: But most importantly, that should not be what's happening in America. 429 00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:04,440 Speaker 7: We should have a generation of children who are blossoming, 430 00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:08,320 Speaker 7: who are growing, who are healthy, not children who are 431 00:29:08,400 --> 00:29:11,840 Speaker 7: living in poverty, not kids who are sleeping in cause. 432 00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:14,520 Speaker 3: Oh I don't disagree with that, sir. 433 00:29:15,520 --> 00:29:21,000 Speaker 2: We shouldn't have a society where children are living in cars. 434 00:29:22,760 --> 00:29:27,760 Speaker 2: I don't I don't want that at all. Nobody should. 435 00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:33,120 Speaker 2: Nobody should want such a thing. We should be absolutely 436 00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:37,640 Speaker 2: opposed to that on every level. But this is a 437 00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:44,160 Speaker 2: conversation about education, right in the conversation about education, does 438 00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:48,160 Speaker 2: education mean we provide breakfast, lunch, and dinner or are 439 00:29:48,320 --> 00:29:51,560 Speaker 2: we really taking away the responsibility from parents? 440 00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:54,400 Speaker 3: There? Oh, I'm not saying there aren't parents who are 441 00:29:54,400 --> 00:29:55,680 Speaker 3: having trouble making ends meet. 442 00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:58,080 Speaker 2: I am not saying there aren't parents who are down 443 00:29:58,120 --> 00:29:59,880 Speaker 2: their luck, and I'm not saying there aren't bad parents. 444 00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:02,600 Speaker 2: I believe all things are true, and I'm not calling 445 00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:06,960 Speaker 2: the first two groups bad parents. They're trying and we 446 00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:09,560 Speaker 2: should help them, and that's the role of private charity. 447 00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:12,480 Speaker 2: Is that really the role of the school, because really 448 00:30:12,520 --> 00:30:14,080 Speaker 2: what you're saying is it's the role of the state 449 00:30:14,120 --> 00:30:17,200 Speaker 2: to take away the responsibility of the parents, and that should. 450 00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:17,400 Speaker 3: Never be. 451 00:30:20,480 --> 00:30:24,720 Speaker 2: I don't think schools should be providing breakfast, lunch, and dinner. Now, 452 00:30:24,880 --> 00:30:28,720 Speaker 2: school lunch, I understand the kids in school, but dinners. 453 00:30:30,360 --> 00:30:30,400 Speaker 12: No. 454 00:30:30,560 --> 00:30:32,400 Speaker 2: I think this is much more a move of the state, 455 00:30:32,920 --> 00:30:39,280 Speaker 2: through some screaming of socialist sorry communists, that we have 456 00:30:39,520 --> 00:30:43,000 Speaker 2: income inequality, and this is how we justify it. This 457 00:30:43,120 --> 00:30:45,680 Speaker 2: is how we rectify it through what I mean, what 458 00:30:45,800 --> 00:30:48,000 Speaker 2: else could it be. You've got these rich people who 459 00:30:48,040 --> 00:30:52,480 Speaker 2: don't care. That's what rich guy Bernie Sanders says. So 460 00:30:52,800 --> 00:30:54,800 Speaker 2: we have to help these people who are down on 461 00:30:54,840 --> 00:30:57,120 Speaker 2: their luck, and so the only way to do that 462 00:30:57,360 --> 00:31:02,920 Speaker 2: is through wealthy distribution. He doesn't even get to his 463 00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:06,600 Speaker 2: conversation about education, and he's already let you know that 464 00:31:06,800 --> 00:31:11,480 Speaker 2: the secret to whatever it is he's talking about is 465 00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:15,760 Speaker 2: you writing a bigger check and Bernie, with all the 466 00:31:15,840 --> 00:31:18,920 Speaker 2: goodness in his heart, deciding where that check goes. 467 00:31:22,400 --> 00:31:26,160 Speaker 3: These pinkos never change. I'm Tony Katz, I don't know. 468 00:31:26,320 --> 00:31:30,920 Speaker 3: Today is just awful. This is crazy. 469 00:31:32,080 --> 00:31:36,640 Speaker 2: First we get the news that Haul Cogan dead at 470 00:31:36,680 --> 00:31:38,040 Speaker 2: the age of seventy one. 471 00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:41,760 Speaker 3: So we've lost Malcolm Jamal Warner. 472 00:31:43,640 --> 00:31:49,880 Speaker 2: This this week in a drowning accident in Costa Rica 473 00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:52,920 Speaker 2: for his I'm Tony Kaks alive and well I think 474 00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:56,600 Speaker 2: Tony Kaks today good to be with you. We've lost 475 00:31:56,680 --> 00:32:00,520 Speaker 2: Ozzy Osbourne at the age of seventy six, just weeks 476 00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:07,320 Speaker 2: after doing that, doing that, that that charity. 477 00:32:07,040 --> 00:32:09,080 Speaker 3: Concert, his farewell. 478 00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:16,960 Speaker 2: Then Hault Coogan and now Chuck Mangione dead at the 479 00:32:17,160 --> 00:32:18,600 Speaker 2: age of eighty four. 480 00:32:18,840 --> 00:32:21,840 Speaker 3: And you say to me, Tony, who in the world 481 00:32:22,600 --> 00:32:54,200 Speaker 3: is Chuck Mangione. Oh, well, allow me, won't you. That's 482 00:32:54,360 --> 00:33:35,280 Speaker 3: Chuck Mangion. I'm telling you right now, this has not 483 00:33:35,400 --> 00:33:45,160 Speaker 3: been a good week, not at all. The funny thing 484 00:33:45,280 --> 00:33:47,640 Speaker 3: is everybody knows the song the chat room right now. 485 00:33:47,680 --> 00:33:49,800 Speaker 3: If you go to YouTube, you can get you to 486 00:33:49,880 --> 00:33:52,120 Speaker 3: the live stream and see the see the chat YouTube 487 00:33:52,120 --> 00:33:54,160 Speaker 3: dot com slash johny Kats and everyone's like, oh my gosh, 488 00:33:54,200 --> 00:34:25,399 Speaker 3: I love this song. Yes, yes you do. By the way, 489 00:34:25,440 --> 00:34:27,080 Speaker 3: the chat room is filled. 490 00:34:26,800 --> 00:34:30,719 Speaker 2: With protect Willie Nelson at all costs and please watch 491 00:34:30,760 --> 00:34:31,640 Speaker 2: over Dolly Parton. 492 00:34:35,320 --> 00:34:39,440 Speaker 3: Oh I don't you know, some days the politics lead but. 493 00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:43,960 Speaker 2: This is just crazy. I'm gonna let him play me 494 00:34:44,040 --> 00:34:47,759 Speaker 2: out right much more to get to keep it here 495 00:34:47,800 --> 00:35:27,239 Speaker 2: on Tony Katz. This is Tony Katz Today, Live from 496 00:35:27,320 --> 00:35:33,440 Speaker 2: the Heart and the Crossroads of America. It's Tony Katz today. 497 00:35:51,600 --> 00:35:55,760 Speaker 4: Because you know, Jesse uh, the integrity of our democratic republic, 498 00:35:55,920 --> 00:35:59,280 Speaker 4: of our elections is of paramount importance to the American people. 499 00:36:00,200 --> 00:36:05,040 Speaker 4: Knowing what had occurred previously, the things, this Russia hoax 500 00:36:05,120 --> 00:36:08,000 Speaker 4: thing that was called a conspiracy. I wanted to get 501 00:36:08,040 --> 00:36:11,359 Speaker 4: to the bottom of the truth of what actually happened here. 502 00:36:11,400 --> 00:36:14,440 Speaker 4: This is obviously important to President Trump, but again is 503 00:36:14,480 --> 00:36:18,200 Speaker 4: an issue of importance to every single American in this 504 00:36:18,360 --> 00:36:20,480 Speaker 4: country in the future of our country as a republic. 505 00:36:21,080 --> 00:36:24,000 Speaker 4: So shortly after coming into this position as Director of 506 00:36:24,080 --> 00:36:27,640 Speaker 4: National Intelligence, I formed a special team to. 507 00:36:27,880 --> 00:36:31,400 Speaker 3: Investigate this issue. I got to tell you, it wasn't easy. 508 00:36:31,560 --> 00:36:34,280 Speaker 13: There were a lot of deep state obstacles that exist 509 00:36:34,520 --> 00:36:38,080 Speaker 13: still within the intelligence community. But ultimately we had a 510 00:36:38,120 --> 00:36:41,640 Speaker 13: whistleblower who came forward that brought some critical pieces to 511 00:36:42,080 --> 00:36:45,520 Speaker 13: this story, and we were able to discover these documents 512 00:36:45,600 --> 00:36:50,280 Speaker 13: and find these documents that really pointed to President Obama 513 00:36:50,719 --> 00:36:54,560 Speaker 13: directing his national security leaders in James Clapper and John 514 00:36:54,680 --> 00:37:00,640 Speaker 13: Brennan to manufacture this January twenty seventeen Intelligence Community assessment. 515 00:37:01,080 --> 00:37:03,960 Speaker 13: The investigation that I led at ODE and I that 516 00:37:04,040 --> 00:37:07,799 Speaker 13: we released last week Friday, provided a lot of those 517 00:37:07,920 --> 00:37:10,120 Speaker 13: foundational building blocks and proof. 518 00:37:11,000 --> 00:37:15,240 Speaker 2: Now there will be people who discuss that what Telsea Gabber, 519 00:37:15,280 --> 00:37:18,120 Speaker 2: the Director of National Intelligence, has put forth is absolutely 520 00:37:18,160 --> 00:37:22,800 Speaker 2: nothing new and there's nothing here that can bring about 521 00:37:23,040 --> 00:37:32,680 Speaker 2: criminal charges against former President Barack Obama or anybody else. 522 00:37:34,080 --> 00:37:37,640 Speaker 2: I'm not so sure that criminal charges can be brought either. 523 00:37:39,239 --> 00:37:45,400 Speaker 2: But I think that the idea that this information has 524 00:37:45,480 --> 00:37:49,239 Speaker 2: proven nothing it was already out there, I don't think 525 00:37:49,480 --> 00:37:55,000 Speaker 2: that is the case in the slightest Tony Katz, Tony 526 00:37:55,080 --> 00:37:59,959 Speaker 2: Katz today, good to be with you. There's a piece 527 00:38:00,160 --> 00:38:04,320 Speaker 2: over there by National Review that I will take umbrage with. 528 00:38:04,719 --> 00:38:07,640 Speaker 3: I'll get to that as well. 529 00:38:08,600 --> 00:38:11,440 Speaker 2: I think a lot of this information, it's not that 530 00:38:11,840 --> 00:38:15,320 Speaker 2: it's all necessarily new. I think there's a little more detail, 531 00:38:15,480 --> 00:38:17,160 Speaker 2: and for a lot of people, this is the first 532 00:38:17,280 --> 00:38:20,759 Speaker 2: time hearing it. And the reason it's the first time 533 00:38:20,840 --> 00:38:23,520 Speaker 2: hearing it is because media works so aggressively. 534 00:38:23,080 --> 00:38:25,360 Speaker 3: To ensure you never got the full story. 535 00:38:26,040 --> 00:38:28,359 Speaker 2: They played it down, and they played it down by 536 00:38:28,400 --> 00:38:30,760 Speaker 2: never once questioning what it is they were being told 537 00:38:31,120 --> 00:38:35,839 Speaker 2: by Obama, Brennan, Clapper, Komy, Clinton, et cetera. They never 538 00:38:36,120 --> 00:38:39,759 Speaker 2: ever once said, hmm, this is worth investigating. They never 539 00:38:39,960 --> 00:38:42,640 Speaker 2: did look into Russa, Russia, Russia. They never asked the 540 00:38:42,719 --> 00:38:46,600 Speaker 2: hard question. They simply said, whatever you want us to say, 541 00:38:46,800 --> 00:38:51,359 Speaker 2: dear leaders, and they said it. So I think all 542 00:38:51,440 --> 00:38:56,560 Speaker 2: this is incredibly important. One of the one of the 543 00:38:56,640 --> 00:38:58,480 Speaker 2: more insane things. 544 00:38:59,680 --> 00:39:00,680 Speaker 3: That said. 545 00:39:03,440 --> 00:39:10,280 Speaker 2: Was from Tulsea Gabbard from the White House briefing yesterday, 546 00:39:11,360 --> 00:39:13,040 Speaker 2: and yeah, you can. You could argue, well, some of 547 00:39:13,080 --> 00:39:15,600 Speaker 2: this is about getting Jeffrey Epstein off the front page. 548 00:39:15,680 --> 00:39:23,160 Speaker 2: Oh that's not happening, not happening at all. But the 549 00:39:23,560 --> 00:39:26,920 Speaker 2: the part, the reason that you had and you should 550 00:39:26,920 --> 00:39:30,200 Speaker 2: have had and you and I applaud Caroline Levitt and 551 00:39:30,520 --> 00:39:34,120 Speaker 2: uh director Gabbard for for doing this, was so more 552 00:39:34,200 --> 00:39:36,040 Speaker 2: people got this story because for a lot of people, 553 00:39:36,080 --> 00:39:37,239 Speaker 2: it's all brand. 554 00:39:37,000 --> 00:39:42,680 Speaker 3: New, and the media is so incredibly bothered by all 555 00:39:42,680 --> 00:39:42,840 Speaker 3: of this. 556 00:39:44,719 --> 00:39:48,040 Speaker 2: And the reason they're bothered by it is that this 557 00:39:48,320 --> 00:39:50,760 Speaker 2: is more, this is more of an expose of their failures, 558 00:39:51,320 --> 00:39:54,759 Speaker 2: of their unwillingness to go about engaging honestly with the 559 00:39:54,840 --> 00:40:00,520 Speaker 2: American people. And I'll share that story as the chatroom 560 00:40:00,640 --> 00:40:04,120 Speaker 2: is noting. CNN cut off Telsey Gabberd. CNN was like, Okay, 561 00:40:04,280 --> 00:40:06,759 Speaker 2: we've heard enough, Let's go to Jeff Zelleny and he 562 00:40:06,800 --> 00:40:08,120 Speaker 2: is like, well, I don't even know why we're talking 563 00:40:08,160 --> 00:40:09,960 Speaker 2: about this. This is not even worth discussing. 564 00:40:11,320 --> 00:40:13,320 Speaker 3: It's very very much. 565 00:40:14,960 --> 00:40:17,759 Speaker 2: Worth discussing, but I was talking about. One of the 566 00:40:17,880 --> 00:40:19,200 Speaker 2: crazier things. 567 00:40:20,760 --> 00:40:23,480 Speaker 3: That was said. 568 00:40:24,960 --> 00:40:29,560 Speaker 2: Was Hillary Clinton. According to the Russians, they had this 569 00:40:29,760 --> 00:40:40,000 Speaker 2: information that Hillary Clinton was on tranquilizers. And you're like, 570 00:40:40,080 --> 00:40:43,840 Speaker 2: I'm sorry, what in the what in the what in 571 00:40:43,920 --> 00:40:47,080 Speaker 2: the what are you talking about? 572 00:40:47,239 --> 00:40:51,000 Speaker 3: Hillary Clinton on tranquilizes? What kind of what kind of 573 00:40:51,040 --> 00:40:55,800 Speaker 3: thing is this? What kind of conversation is this? And 574 00:40:56,040 --> 00:41:04,279 Speaker 3: then you remember Hillary Clinton getting into the van. And 575 00:41:04,400 --> 00:41:10,920 Speaker 3: I want to say that I have no idea if 576 00:41:10,960 --> 00:41:11,680 Speaker 3: any of this is. 577 00:41:11,719 --> 00:41:20,680 Speaker 2: True, and I wouldn't trust the Russians at all or 578 00:41:20,800 --> 00:41:21,480 Speaker 2: in any way. 579 00:41:21,719 --> 00:41:29,520 Speaker 3: I wouldn't trust anything they have to say, not an ounce, 580 00:41:30,760 --> 00:41:31,360 Speaker 3: not a word. 581 00:41:33,239 --> 00:41:37,200 Speaker 2: But let me take you back to Hillary Clinton. Is 582 00:41:37,239 --> 00:41:41,360 Speaker 2: this twenty sixteen. She was in New York for a 583 00:41:41,960 --> 00:41:44,240 Speaker 2: ceremony regarding September eleventh. 584 00:41:46,000 --> 00:41:46,080 Speaker 7: And. 585 00:41:48,400 --> 00:41:51,239 Speaker 3: Do you remember her the assistance she needed getting into 586 00:41:51,280 --> 00:41:55,680 Speaker 3: that black van. Well, they had it recorded. 587 00:41:56,320 --> 00:42:04,280 Speaker 2: She is standing upright, like very hard upright, like rigidly upright, 588 00:42:05,719 --> 00:42:08,239 Speaker 2: and she is being propped up by her left arm 589 00:42:08,520 --> 00:42:09,760 Speaker 2: by a staffer. 590 00:42:09,680 --> 00:42:14,959 Speaker 3: Who has their arm around hers, and she they opened 591 00:42:15,040 --> 00:42:20,040 Speaker 3: up the double doors and with the help of three 592 00:42:20,440 --> 00:42:25,160 Speaker 3: four people, she is helped into the van. 593 00:42:26,480 --> 00:42:29,239 Speaker 2: She can't be in the van. That was courtesy ABC News. 594 00:42:30,480 --> 00:42:31,520 Speaker 2: She can't get into the van. 595 00:42:34,520 --> 00:42:36,560 Speaker 3: We all looked at that and said, what in the 596 00:42:36,800 --> 00:42:38,440 Speaker 3: world is wrong with her. 597 00:42:40,840 --> 00:42:45,520 Speaker 2: I can't tell you if it was heavy tranquilizers. I 598 00:42:45,680 --> 00:42:53,400 Speaker 2: can't tell you if anything about that is legitimate or 599 00:42:53,800 --> 00:42:54,560 Speaker 2: real at all. 600 00:42:55,480 --> 00:42:56,600 Speaker 3: I can tell you it's nutty. 601 00:42:57,320 --> 00:43:02,000 Speaker 2: I can't believe that she said it. I can tell 602 00:43:02,080 --> 00:43:06,560 Speaker 2: you that there's that van and her getting into it, 603 00:43:07,960 --> 00:43:15,520 Speaker 2: and it's interesting. And I was sharing earlier that Randy Wine, 604 00:43:15,880 --> 00:43:19,840 Speaker 2: that Bernie Sanders was having this big event about education 605 00:43:20,480 --> 00:43:24,600 Speaker 2: and the importance of education. Of course, his importance of 606 00:43:24,719 --> 00:43:28,960 Speaker 2: education is is the socialist importance of education. And who 607 00:43:29,040 --> 00:43:33,359 Speaker 2: does he have with him, Randy Weingarten, who of course 608 00:43:33,680 --> 00:43:36,600 Speaker 2: worked to ensure your kids were kept out of schools 609 00:43:36,960 --> 00:43:37,720 Speaker 2: during COVID. 610 00:43:38,400 --> 00:43:43,560 Speaker 3: And she's just yelling at you and Senator Marky see it. 611 00:43:44,000 --> 00:43:46,759 Speaker 10: And they not only are saying thank you for your 612 00:43:46,920 --> 00:43:52,600 Speaker 10: service to the nation, they are saying, we understand we 613 00:43:53,000 --> 00:43:55,120 Speaker 10: have to use politics. 614 00:43:54,560 --> 00:43:55,920 Speaker 3: To solve problems. 615 00:43:56,280 --> 00:44:01,000 Speaker 10: And these two bills are bills that are gonna solve problems. 616 00:44:01,800 --> 00:44:04,800 Speaker 2: The only bills that solve problems in education are bills 617 00:44:04,840 --> 00:44:08,200 Speaker 2: that end the Department of Education and bills that bust 618 00:44:08,280 --> 00:44:11,600 Speaker 2: teachers unions after that, or anything other than that, it 619 00:44:11,680 --> 00:44:14,520 Speaker 2: can't actually solve a problem. It is the problem, the 620 00:44:14,600 --> 00:44:20,480 Speaker 2: whole and complete and total problem. Now I was asked 621 00:44:21,040 --> 00:44:29,799 Speaker 2: and I'm following it. There is a conflict happening right 622 00:44:29,960 --> 00:44:38,080 Speaker 2: now as we speak between Thailand and Cambodia. As reported 623 00:44:38,160 --> 00:44:40,960 Speaker 2: by the BBC, twelve are dead. 624 00:44:42,760 --> 00:44:43,360 Speaker 5: This is. 625 00:44:47,120 --> 00:44:52,640 Speaker 2: I don't claim to be an expert in Cambodian Noor 626 00:44:53,160 --> 00:44:58,440 Speaker 2: Thai politics, but you're talking about places that could have 627 00:44:58,600 --> 00:45:00,240 Speaker 2: had issues. 628 00:45:01,680 --> 00:45:05,719 Speaker 3: With each other going back a century. 629 00:45:07,760 --> 00:45:12,320 Speaker 2: And if we take a look at the map, because 630 00:45:12,520 --> 00:45:18,800 Speaker 2: I'm a big believer in utilizing maps, what you have 631 00:45:20,680 --> 00:45:24,840 Speaker 2: is right here as I'm sharing. You can't see it, 632 00:45:24,880 --> 00:45:28,799 Speaker 2: but trust me, I'm sharing Cambodia and Thailand separated by 633 00:45:29,239 --> 00:45:34,560 Speaker 2: the Gulf of Thailand and in very very not close, 634 00:45:34,640 --> 00:45:35,560 Speaker 2: but next. 635 00:45:35,400 --> 00:45:40,040 Speaker 3: To proximity to each other. What these clashes are about. 636 00:45:40,800 --> 00:45:44,920 Speaker 3: What it is that's happening. What they mean by clash. 637 00:45:46,040 --> 00:45:50,200 Speaker 2: The civilians come from three Thai provinces Cambodia is not 638 00:45:50,320 --> 00:45:54,480 Speaker 2: yet confirmed according to the BBC. What casualties are happening there. 639 00:45:54,880 --> 00:45:58,160 Speaker 2: There's an exchange of gunfire that took place, each side 640 00:45:58,239 --> 00:46:02,000 Speaker 2: claiming the other had triggered the conflict. This is going 641 00:46:02,080 --> 00:46:12,280 Speaker 2: to get followed. There's just another event going on around 642 00:46:12,320 --> 00:46:15,040 Speaker 2: the globe. I don't know if the White House has 643 00:46:15,080 --> 00:46:18,680 Speaker 2: got any statement yet what the take is here. Some 644 00:46:18,840 --> 00:46:21,360 Speaker 2: of these things have a tendency to resolve themselves. Some 645 00:46:21,400 --> 00:46:23,120 Speaker 2: of them don't get resolved. They just slow down for 646 00:46:23,160 --> 00:46:25,040 Speaker 2: a while and then pick up in other places. 647 00:46:25,120 --> 00:46:28,880 Speaker 3: So that's work we're covering. 648 00:46:29,520 --> 00:46:32,279 Speaker 2: There's a lot happening, as I said, and then of 649 00:46:32,360 --> 00:46:34,520 Speaker 2: course the death of hul Cogan at the age of 650 00:46:34,560 --> 00:46:37,719 Speaker 2: seventy one, the death of Chuck manngeone at the death 651 00:46:37,800 --> 00:46:43,879 Speaker 2: at the age of eighty four. We're we're not even 652 00:46:44,440 --> 00:46:48,560 Speaker 2: halfway through, and there's a lot happening. More is coming up. 653 00:46:48,680 --> 00:46:51,400 Speaker 2: Keep it here on Tony Katz. This is Tony Kats today. So, 654 00:46:51,560 --> 00:46:54,440 Speaker 2: as I stated, the Epstein story is not going away. 655 00:46:55,239 --> 00:46:58,400 Speaker 2: But there's a difference between a conversation about wanting information 656 00:46:59,160 --> 00:47:01,560 Speaker 2: and a conversation about how do we get Trump, how 657 00:47:01,600 --> 00:47:02,480 Speaker 2: do we attack Trump? 658 00:47:02,560 --> 00:47:05,320 Speaker 3: And and I want you to hear me when I 659 00:47:05,440 --> 00:47:07,400 Speaker 3: say that for all. 660 00:47:07,320 --> 00:47:10,400 Speaker 2: Those progressives out there who are like, oh, Trump's in 661 00:47:10,480 --> 00:47:13,160 Speaker 2: the in the in the Epstein files. Why because the 662 00:47:13,560 --> 00:47:16,480 Speaker 2: Wall Street Journal put out a story. The Wall Street 663 00:47:16,560 --> 00:47:20,600 Speaker 2: Journal also told us that there was a typed letter 664 00:47:20,760 --> 00:47:21,840 Speaker 2: from Trump to Epstein. 665 00:47:21,880 --> 00:47:22,920 Speaker 3: Who in the world believes this? 666 00:47:23,400 --> 00:47:26,880 Speaker 2: Trump is now suing I think for billions, Who in 667 00:47:27,000 --> 00:47:30,680 Speaker 2: the world would ever, ever, ever believe this? Tony Katz? 668 00:47:30,760 --> 00:47:33,160 Speaker 2: Tony Katz today, I'm not one of those people. They're 669 00:47:33,160 --> 00:47:35,120 Speaker 2: not showing the letter or anything else. So why would 670 00:47:35,160 --> 00:47:39,120 Speaker 2: I believe that Bondi and the Deputy ag brief Trump. 671 00:47:38,960 --> 00:47:40,240 Speaker 3: That he was in the in the files. 672 00:47:40,680 --> 00:47:43,000 Speaker 2: Although there's a lot of people I'm sure who are 673 00:47:43,080 --> 00:47:45,800 Speaker 2: in the files, that doesn't mean they were involved in 674 00:47:45,840 --> 00:47:49,480 Speaker 2: any wrongdoing. Who was involved in the sexual impropriety. You 675 00:47:49,520 --> 00:47:53,080 Speaker 2: now have a House subcommittee voting to subpoena the Department 676 00:47:53,120 --> 00:47:57,880 Speaker 2: of Justice for these files. They're trying to get ahead 677 00:47:57,880 --> 00:48:01,640 Speaker 2: of Democrats who think that they're gaining ground about this. 678 00:48:02,120 --> 00:48:03,960 Speaker 3: Oh look what Trump's trying to hide. You got to 679 00:48:04,040 --> 00:48:07,719 Speaker 3: keep Jeffrey saying the Republicans are supporting and protecting pedophiles. 680 00:48:11,960 --> 00:48:12,920 Speaker 3: The obscenity. 681 00:48:14,000 --> 00:48:16,280 Speaker 2: It goes on for forever, and this is what happens 682 00:48:17,040 --> 00:48:21,279 Speaker 2: when people aren't interested in the protection of children. They're 683 00:48:21,360 --> 00:48:24,840 Speaker 2: interested in political victories and that's where the political left is. 684 00:48:25,840 --> 00:48:28,160 Speaker 2: But as I often do, I'm a day early to it. 685 00:48:28,239 --> 00:48:28,960 Speaker 3: But that's fine. 686 00:48:29,600 --> 00:48:31,800 Speaker 2: There's a lot of audio I haven't gotten to and 687 00:48:31,920 --> 00:48:33,840 Speaker 2: some stuff that is just worthy of sharing. 688 00:48:34,000 --> 00:48:42,960 Speaker 3: So let us let us share it? Shall we? On 689 00:48:43,120 --> 00:48:45,720 Speaker 3: this feel good Friday? It's not time for it? Tony 690 00:48:45,840 --> 00:48:53,680 Speaker 3: Katz audio dump? Do you hear yourself down? 691 00:48:54,040 --> 00:48:54,319 Speaker 7: My god? 692 00:48:54,360 --> 00:48:59,279 Speaker 3: This is so awesome. She really does, She really does 693 00:48:59,600 --> 00:49:01,480 Speaker 3: a lot, a lot of stuff we don't get to 694 00:49:01,560 --> 00:49:05,520 Speaker 3: get to. We need to be able to get to it, 695 00:49:06,000 --> 00:49:08,640 Speaker 3: starting with this insane mayor's race. 696 00:49:08,640 --> 00:49:11,359 Speaker 2: I'll have more on this with no Rofinn I'm not sure. 697 00:49:11,360 --> 00:49:16,160 Speaker 2: Review coming up in a little bit. Andrew Cuomo is 698 00:49:16,239 --> 00:49:18,040 Speaker 2: the definition of no shame. 699 00:49:19,360 --> 00:49:22,120 Speaker 14: We had Eric Adams on the show and he said 700 00:49:22,640 --> 00:49:25,480 Speaker 14: when I asked him about it, you know, he was 701 00:49:26,440 --> 00:49:28,480 Speaker 14: a little chagrin that you asked him if he was 702 00:49:28,520 --> 00:49:30,600 Speaker 14: going to get out of the race. He said, I'm 703 00:49:30,680 --> 00:49:31,560 Speaker 14: the incumbent mayor. 704 00:49:31,960 --> 00:49:33,160 Speaker 3: You've already lost. Mom. 705 00:49:33,280 --> 00:49:35,480 Speaker 14: Donnie would make the argument for why it should be 706 00:49:35,520 --> 00:49:36,399 Speaker 14: you instead. 707 00:49:36,040 --> 00:49:40,759 Speaker 6: Of him, because he's unelectable. You know, he did not 708 00:49:41,719 --> 00:49:47,160 Speaker 6: he dropped out of the Democratic primary Major Adams because 709 00:49:47,200 --> 00:49:49,920 Speaker 6: he's just not competitive in the Democratic primary. 710 00:49:51,360 --> 00:49:59,799 Speaker 2: You killed grandma, which grandma all the grandma's and Eric 711 00:50:00,080 --> 00:50:11,359 Speaker 2: Adams isn't electable. Good Lord, No shame none. You can't 712 00:50:11,520 --> 00:50:14,560 Speaker 2: be a Cuomo and have shame. It just doesn't exist. 713 00:50:15,000 --> 00:50:17,560 Speaker 2: Oh I say that about his brother Chris Cuomo one 714 00:50:17,719 --> 00:50:24,160 Speaker 2: thousand percent, then you have This is the HUD secretary 715 00:50:25,320 --> 00:50:28,040 Speaker 2: talking about the need to lower interest rates. 716 00:50:29,160 --> 00:50:33,880 Speaker 15: Well, I want to see responsibility and not negligence. I 717 00:50:33,920 --> 00:50:38,200 Speaker 15: don't want to see personal vendettas. The American people deserve 718 00:50:38,760 --> 00:50:41,520 Speaker 15: to be able to afford to buy a house, first 719 00:50:41,560 --> 00:50:44,600 Speaker 15: time home buyers, refinancing. So we need interest rates to 720 00:50:44,640 --> 00:50:47,360 Speaker 15: come down, the President and Congress, you know, from a 721 00:50:47,440 --> 00:50:51,320 Speaker 15: fiscal standpoint, or bringing costs down. Now from a monetary standpoint, 722 00:50:51,360 --> 00:50:53,879 Speaker 15: we need interest rates to come down. Even at HUD, 723 00:50:54,200 --> 00:50:58,400 Speaker 15: we're taking down regulations, freeing up developers, freeing up localities 724 00:50:58,480 --> 00:50:58,879 Speaker 15: to build. 725 00:50:58,920 --> 00:51:01,640 Speaker 3: We need seven million units of housing in our country. 726 00:51:01,719 --> 00:51:06,520 Speaker 2: Maria talking to Maria Bariromo there on Fox Business. There 727 00:51:06,640 --> 00:51:10,400 Speaker 2: is a housing issue, there is no doubt. But this 728 00:51:11,080 --> 00:51:16,000 Speaker 2: is much more about applying the pressure to Jerome Powell 729 00:51:16,960 --> 00:51:22,520 Speaker 2: to step aside that's why this is coming up. That's 730 00:51:22,600 --> 00:51:32,080 Speaker 2: why he's out there. You first things, First, you can't 731 00:51:33,560 --> 00:51:36,440 Speaker 2: tell people. You can't say, hey, we need to do 732 00:51:36,520 --> 00:51:39,359 Speaker 2: this so everybody can afford a home. Because if you're 733 00:51:39,360 --> 00:51:42,440 Speaker 2: going to say it's interest rates put you into this 734 00:51:42,560 --> 00:51:43,640 Speaker 2: really slippery slope. 735 00:51:43,800 --> 00:51:45,520 Speaker 3: Well, you see, the problem is the prices are too high. 736 00:51:45,560 --> 00:51:47,160 Speaker 3: People need to bring down the prices of homes. You 737 00:51:50,040 --> 00:51:50,640 Speaker 3: can't do that. 738 00:51:50,760 --> 00:51:50,880 Speaker 14: Now. 739 00:51:50,920 --> 00:51:53,479 Speaker 3: If you want to get rid of regulation to allow 740 00:51:53,520 --> 00:51:55,600 Speaker 3: it to be easier for developers to do their job, 741 00:51:55,880 --> 00:51:56,680 Speaker 3: that's fine by me. 742 00:51:58,440 --> 00:52:00,800 Speaker 2: You can't convince me that every regular relation is somehow 743 00:52:00,840 --> 00:52:02,040 Speaker 2: a smart good regulation. 744 00:52:02,640 --> 00:52:05,680 Speaker 3: Dear lord, we gotta have it has to be had, 745 00:52:07,040 --> 00:52:10,600 Speaker 3: no right, we can. We can do this. 746 00:52:11,520 --> 00:52:15,160 Speaker 2: But I don't want to see the Trump administration say 747 00:52:15,880 --> 00:52:17,560 Speaker 2: everyone has to be able to afford a home, and 748 00:52:17,600 --> 00:52:20,200 Speaker 2: therefore home builders need to buy lower price to homes 749 00:52:20,400 --> 00:52:24,040 Speaker 2: to make it more affordable. A non interested in government 750 00:52:24,160 --> 00:52:27,319 Speaker 2: saying what it is that you have to build. That's 751 00:52:27,360 --> 00:52:31,160 Speaker 2: a mistake. And if you missed this yesterday from Caroline 752 00:52:31,200 --> 00:52:35,680 Speaker 2: Levitt going back and forth with Caitlyn Collins of CNN 753 00:52:35,840 --> 00:52:37,760 Speaker 2: regarding Tulsey Gabbard. 754 00:52:38,920 --> 00:52:43,000 Speaker 12: Well as for your second question, Caitlin, I think who 755 00:52:43,120 --> 00:52:45,560 Speaker 12: is saying that that she would release this to try 756 00:52:45,600 --> 00:52:47,399 Speaker 12: to boost her standing with the president, who has said 757 00:52:47,440 --> 00:52:50,080 Speaker 12: that the President has publicly undermined her when it came 758 00:52:50,160 --> 00:52:51,680 Speaker 12: to Iran, he said she was wrong. 759 00:52:51,800 --> 00:52:53,239 Speaker 3: He told me that she didn't know what she was 760 00:52:53,280 --> 00:52:53,759 Speaker 3: talking about. 761 00:52:53,800 --> 00:52:55,760 Speaker 13: That was on Air Force one on camera. 762 00:52:55,880 --> 00:52:58,160 Speaker 12: The only people who are suggesting that the Director of 763 00:52:58,239 --> 00:53:00,839 Speaker 12: National Intelligence would release evidence to try to boost her 764 00:53:00,880 --> 00:53:03,239 Speaker 12: standing with the president are the people in this room 765 00:53:03,440 --> 00:53:07,360 Speaker 12: who constantly try to sow distrust and chaos amongst the president's. 766 00:53:06,960 --> 00:53:08,520 Speaker 3: Cabinet, and it is not working. 767 00:53:08,880 --> 00:53:11,120 Speaker 12: I have a boy the attorney, I am Wilburn. I 768 00:53:11,200 --> 00:53:13,520 Speaker 12: will just answer your question directly. I am with the 769 00:53:13,600 --> 00:53:15,600 Speaker 12: President of the United States every day. He has the 770 00:53:15,680 --> 00:53:19,640 Speaker 12: utmost confidence in Director Gabbard. He always has, he continues 771 00:53:19,719 --> 00:53:22,160 Speaker 12: to and that is true of his entire cabinet, who 772 00:53:22,200 --> 00:53:24,600 Speaker 12: is all working as one team to deliver on the 773 00:53:24,640 --> 00:53:25,879 Speaker 12: promises this president made. 774 00:53:26,560 --> 00:53:29,319 Speaker 3: Now, I. 775 00:53:30,960 --> 00:53:35,480 Speaker 2: Believe that this information that we've gotten, the more we've 776 00:53:35,560 --> 00:53:40,200 Speaker 2: learned about the level of duplicitousness and pure evil from 777 00:53:40,480 --> 00:53:46,160 Speaker 2: the Obama team regarding trying to disrupt President Trump, lying 778 00:53:47,640 --> 00:53:52,440 Speaker 2: changing assessments from the intelligence community, etc. I believe this 779 00:53:52,600 --> 00:53:55,839 Speaker 2: is all just gross stuff, and I'm glad we've gotten 780 00:53:55,880 --> 00:54:01,239 Speaker 2: this information. There's no question that the release of the 781 00:54:01,280 --> 00:54:05,560 Speaker 2: Martin Luther King files, the release of this could be, Hey, 782 00:54:06,040 --> 00:54:07,840 Speaker 2: we don't want this story, we want these stories, we 783 00:54:07,920 --> 00:54:09,920 Speaker 2: were going to release these stories anyway, Just release them. 784 00:54:11,040 --> 00:54:17,160 Speaker 2: I don't question that President Trump did say she's wrong, absolutely, 785 00:54:17,760 --> 00:54:21,719 Speaker 2: and I had an absolute trepidation regarding Tulsea Gabbard being 786 00:54:21,760 --> 00:54:23,239 Speaker 2: the Director of National Intelligence. 787 00:54:24,520 --> 00:54:27,080 Speaker 3: But Trump's saying that someone's wrong in saying, I heard 788 00:54:27,160 --> 00:54:30,680 Speaker 3: what she said. I'm doing. This is what a commander 789 00:54:30,719 --> 00:54:31,439 Speaker 3: in chief does. 790 00:54:33,440 --> 00:54:37,320 Speaker 2: The idea of the undermining is actually a false premise 791 00:54:37,360 --> 00:54:40,480 Speaker 2: from Caitlyn Collins. The commander in chief is there to 792 00:54:40,520 --> 00:54:44,040 Speaker 2: make the decision. Ketsy Intelligence says no, no, no, I 793 00:54:44,160 --> 00:54:44,640 Speaker 2: think it's this. 794 00:54:44,760 --> 00:54:48,480 Speaker 3: Over here and I'm going in this direction. That's a 795 00:54:48,560 --> 00:54:55,080 Speaker 3: leadership conversation, not necessarily an undermining conversation. But when Caitlyn 796 00:54:55,120 --> 00:54:57,960 Speaker 3: Collins from CNN positions it that way, it's well, it's 797 00:54:58,000 --> 00:55:00,400 Speaker 3: Kaitlyn Collins and CNA County. 798 00:55:01,239 --> 00:55:04,720 Speaker 2: So while the American press or while the social media 799 00:55:05,080 --> 00:55:09,439 Speaker 2: loons only want to talk about Epstein, and of course 800 00:55:09,600 --> 00:55:12,440 Speaker 2: is the conversation regarding Russia, Russia and Russia, there are 801 00:55:12,640 --> 00:55:16,319 Speaker 2: other subjects at play, like Democrats are trying to figure 802 00:55:16,320 --> 00:55:21,080 Speaker 2: out how to elect a communist nay Islamist. Wait, weirdly, 803 00:55:21,360 --> 00:55:23,080 Speaker 2: it could be both things at the same time in 804 00:55:23,200 --> 00:55:26,440 Speaker 2: my view in New York and that mayor's race. And 805 00:55:26,600 --> 00:55:29,440 Speaker 2: yet there are Democrats saying, dear Lord, this is the 806 00:55:29,640 --> 00:55:30,520 Speaker 2: most serious. 807 00:55:30,239 --> 00:55:32,040 Speaker 3: Problem with the party. We can't have this. 808 00:55:33,000 --> 00:55:36,560 Speaker 2: Meanwhile, you go to the Middle East, where President Trump 809 00:55:36,600 --> 00:55:39,319 Speaker 2: has had some massive successes. Israel, I believe, has had 810 00:55:39,400 --> 00:55:43,360 Speaker 2: massive successes in resetting a landscape. One of those places 811 00:55:43,400 --> 00:55:47,000 Speaker 2: where the landscape was possibly being reset with Syria, until, 812 00:55:47,080 --> 00:55:50,200 Speaker 2: of course, they decided they were going to side with 813 00:55:50,440 --> 00:55:52,239 Speaker 2: going after the Druiz population. 814 00:55:52,640 --> 00:55:56,000 Speaker 3: Never mind what might be happening to Christians. The world 815 00:55:56,160 --> 00:55:56,959 Speaker 3: is happening all. 816 00:55:56,880 --> 00:55:58,839 Speaker 2: Around us, and there are these places that we need 817 00:55:58,920 --> 00:56:02,080 Speaker 2: to be focusing on and not having our focus taken away. 818 00:56:02,239 --> 00:56:04,840 Speaker 2: Tony Katz, Tony Katz today, good to be with you. 819 00:56:04,960 --> 00:56:08,000 Speaker 2: Noah Roffman joins me right now of National Review. 820 00:56:08,360 --> 00:56:09,319 Speaker 3: He is the author of the. 821 00:56:09,440 --> 00:56:12,520 Speaker 2: Rise of the New Puritans, Fighting Back against the Progressives, 822 00:56:12,560 --> 00:56:17,160 Speaker 2: War on Fun and Unjust Social Justice, and the Unmaking 823 00:56:17,239 --> 00:56:19,879 Speaker 2: of America, both of those available at Amazon dot Com 824 00:56:20,360 --> 00:56:23,520 Speaker 2: or wherever fine books are sold. I have been discussing, 825 00:56:23,640 --> 00:56:27,520 Speaker 2: in kind of piecemeal parts, Noah, the situation in Syria, 826 00:56:28,280 --> 00:56:32,120 Speaker 2: the group that took over this Al Kaitaf shoot al Noshra, 827 00:56:32,880 --> 00:56:36,759 Speaker 2: getting Bashar Assad out of office. He's I think right now, 828 00:56:36,880 --> 00:56:41,160 Speaker 2: living in Moscow somewhere, and how I would have no 829 00:56:41,400 --> 00:56:41,920 Speaker 2: thought that this. 830 00:56:42,040 --> 00:56:44,719 Speaker 3: Group was a group that would bring Syria to a 831 00:56:44,800 --> 00:56:45,360 Speaker 3: better place. 832 00:56:45,719 --> 00:56:47,960 Speaker 2: But there was a lot of cooperation with the United States, 833 00:56:48,080 --> 00:56:51,640 Speaker 2: allowing for airspace to be utilized by the Israelis and 834 00:56:51,760 --> 00:56:57,399 Speaker 2: dealing with Iran. And then you have this very odd 835 00:56:57,520 --> 00:57:00,600 Speaker 2: moment where Israel is now bombing Damascus because of attacks 836 00:57:00,640 --> 00:57:03,120 Speaker 2: on the Druze community, the Drus who are now putting 837 00:57:03,160 --> 00:57:06,440 Speaker 2: up Israeli flags and begging Israel in many cases to 838 00:57:06,560 --> 00:57:11,279 Speaker 2: absorb them into Israel. You write this as Netanyahoo and 839 00:57:11,480 --> 00:57:14,400 Speaker 2: Trump's irreconcilable differences over Syria. 840 00:57:15,239 --> 00:57:17,280 Speaker 3: Take me through the story and where you think we're at. 841 00:57:18,200 --> 00:57:22,080 Speaker 9: Yeah, So, as I see it from the perspective of Washington, 842 00:57:22,160 --> 00:57:24,480 Speaker 9: which is all I can manage because I am an 843 00:57:24,480 --> 00:57:26,960 Speaker 9: American and located in America, and a lot of this 844 00:57:27,200 --> 00:57:31,280 Speaker 9: begins to delve into the rat's nest of ethnic politics 845 00:57:31,400 --> 00:57:38,440 Speaker 9: in the Levant. We're talking about ethnic transgenerational grievances between 846 00:57:38,480 --> 00:57:41,000 Speaker 9: the Kurds and the Arabs, and the Zidis and the Alohites, 847 00:57:41,000 --> 00:57:42,720 Speaker 9: and the Syrians and the Drus. And if you have 848 00:57:42,840 --> 00:57:45,000 Speaker 9: a firm grasp on that, God bless you. 849 00:57:45,200 --> 00:57:45,600 Speaker 3: I don't. 850 00:57:45,680 --> 00:57:47,880 Speaker 9: I don't think a lot of people who don't study 851 00:57:47,920 --> 00:57:51,320 Speaker 9: this region as a career could possibly manage to say 852 00:57:51,320 --> 00:57:53,400 Speaker 9: that they have their hands wrapped around this dynamic. And 853 00:57:53,480 --> 00:57:55,400 Speaker 9: it's a shifting one, so it's not exactly something you 854 00:57:55,440 --> 00:57:55,840 Speaker 9: can put. 855 00:57:55,720 --> 00:57:56,120 Speaker 3: Your hands on. 856 00:57:56,680 --> 00:58:00,360 Speaker 9: That being said, Washington, there was over were some of 857 00:58:00,480 --> 00:58:03,800 Speaker 9: the last six months since the Aside regime fell, I 858 00:58:03,840 --> 00:58:06,760 Speaker 9: believe in November December, there has been a debate within 859 00:58:06,840 --> 00:58:10,200 Speaker 9: the Trump administration over how to approach the post Aside 860 00:58:10,240 --> 00:58:11,160 Speaker 9: regime in Syria. 861 00:58:11,280 --> 00:58:14,160 Speaker 3: There was a faction that was a little more leery 862 00:58:14,400 --> 00:58:14,680 Speaker 3: of this. 863 00:58:15,320 --> 00:58:18,600 Speaker 9: The HTS, which is this Turkish off suit evolved out 864 00:58:18,640 --> 00:58:20,160 Speaker 9: of Al Nisra, which evolved out. 865 00:58:20,080 --> 00:58:20,640 Speaker 3: Of al Qaeda. 866 00:58:20,680 --> 00:58:23,920 Speaker 9: We're talking about various permutations from this terrorist regime, and 867 00:58:23,960 --> 00:58:26,520 Speaker 9: they said, listen, this is a terrorist regime. He's pretty 868 00:58:26,600 --> 00:58:28,680 Speaker 9: much the same guy he always was al Jilani, now 869 00:58:28,720 --> 00:58:31,200 Speaker 9: al shahar is and head of this government, and we 870 00:58:31,240 --> 00:58:34,120 Speaker 9: should be very cautious about engaging with it. Indeed, we 871 00:58:34,160 --> 00:58:36,600 Speaker 9: probably shouldn't engage with it at all. And then there 872 00:58:36,640 --> 00:58:39,840 Speaker 9: was another camp more or less to Marco Rubio, Tim Walls, 873 00:58:40,160 --> 00:58:42,400 Speaker 9: not Tim Wolves, Mike Walls when he was in NSA 874 00:58:44,120 --> 00:58:46,320 Speaker 9: saying listen, this is the guy's talking the talk and 875 00:58:46,400 --> 00:58:49,760 Speaker 9: walking the walk. I mean, he's kicked out every Iranian 876 00:58:49,840 --> 00:58:53,160 Speaker 9: asset in that country which advances our interests. He's leaning 877 00:58:53,240 --> 00:58:55,640 Speaker 9: into Europe looking for foreign direct events in this fment, 878 00:58:55,680 --> 00:58:58,800 Speaker 9: which advances our interests. These are a lot of overtures 879 00:58:58,800 --> 00:59:00,640 Speaker 9: and we should respond to them because we would like 880 00:59:00,680 --> 00:59:04,080 Speaker 9: to usher and guide this country into being a more 881 00:59:04,760 --> 00:59:08,320 Speaker 9: responsible member of the international community, and perhaps even normalizing 882 00:59:08,360 --> 00:59:10,440 Speaker 9: relations with Israel, which was on the table not too 883 00:59:10,480 --> 00:59:13,800 Speaker 9: long ago. It may not be anymore because there has 884 00:59:13,880 --> 00:59:15,760 Speaker 9: been a lot of ethnic conflict in the south of 885 00:59:15,880 --> 00:59:19,840 Speaker 9: Syria where Israel maintains a little sliver of land which 886 00:59:19,960 --> 00:59:22,920 Speaker 9: was formally unoccupied. It's still un occupied, but the IDF 887 00:59:23,400 --> 00:59:27,120 Speaker 9: does the policing around it. And there were attacks on Drus. 888 00:59:27,240 --> 00:59:29,720 Speaker 9: Now some of those were militia members. Some of those 889 00:59:29,760 --> 00:59:32,600 Speaker 9: are not affiliated with the government. But according to observatories, 890 00:59:32,760 --> 00:59:35,240 Speaker 9: the UK based observatories of the conflict in Syria, the 891 00:59:35,280 --> 00:59:38,840 Speaker 9: government doesn't have its hands clean here, not necessarily that 892 00:59:38,920 --> 00:59:41,240 Speaker 9: it could be involved in some of these massacres of drus. 893 00:59:41,840 --> 00:59:44,480 Speaker 9: We've had ongoing street fighting in South Syria for the 894 00:59:44,520 --> 00:59:47,360 Speaker 9: better part of the last several months. So Israel, which 895 00:59:47,400 --> 00:59:49,920 Speaker 9: has a significant Ruis population in the Golan Heights and 896 00:59:50,040 --> 00:59:52,800 Speaker 9: in this little strip of land that they're occupying, some 897 00:59:52,960 --> 00:59:55,480 Speaker 9: of them actually want to join the Israeli Social Compact, 898 00:59:55,560 --> 00:59:59,800 Speaker 9: not all, but some enough. They're under attack, and Israel 899 01:00:00,040 --> 01:00:03,040 Speaker 9: offended the drews that were under attack, both in that 900 01:00:03,240 --> 01:00:07,400 Speaker 9: area with strikes on militia members and Syrian government forces 901 01:00:07,480 --> 01:00:10,280 Speaker 9: such as they are the provisional government, and a strike 902 01:00:10,320 --> 01:00:13,680 Speaker 9: a very demonstrative and theatrical strike on the Syrian Defense 903 01:00:13,720 --> 01:00:18,440 Speaker 9: Intelligence Agency or Defense Defense Agency ministry rather inside Damascus. 904 01:00:18,800 --> 01:00:22,200 Speaker 9: So that's where we're at today. The Israeli government shares 905 01:00:22,280 --> 01:00:25,160 Speaker 9: the Tulsa Gabbard outlook. They believe that this guy is 906 01:00:25,320 --> 01:00:29,480 Speaker 9: just a terrorist and a suit. Washington does not. Washington 907 01:00:29,520 --> 01:00:31,960 Speaker 9: has much higher ambitions for this part of the world 908 01:00:32,000 --> 01:00:34,080 Speaker 9: than for this government and doesn't seem inclined to wash 909 01:00:34,120 --> 01:00:34,600 Speaker 9: its hands of it. 910 01:00:35,200 --> 01:00:36,440 Speaker 3: So it seems like we have an. 911 01:00:36,440 --> 01:00:39,320 Speaker 9: Actual reel for the first time. Regardless of what the 912 01:00:39,400 --> 01:00:43,160 Speaker 9: restrainers in the administration tell reporters, regardless of what Democrats say, 913 01:00:43,480 --> 01:00:47,480 Speaker 9: regardless of what Jerusalem sources in Jerusalem and Washington say 914 01:00:47,520 --> 01:00:49,600 Speaker 9: about Israel's in the US relationship, it has been very, 915 01:00:49,640 --> 01:00:52,640 Speaker 9: very close until this moment, at which point we have 916 01:00:52,760 --> 01:00:56,400 Speaker 9: a reconcilable strategic differences about where we want this region 917 01:00:56,480 --> 01:00:56,640 Speaker 9: to go. 918 01:00:57,360 --> 01:00:58,880 Speaker 3: I want to make come to a head. I want 919 01:00:58,920 --> 01:01:01,560 Speaker 3: to make sure we're clear about out that there. And 920 01:01:02,360 --> 01:01:03,880 Speaker 3: your point is well taken. 921 01:01:04,360 --> 01:01:08,640 Speaker 2: The moves from Israel on Damascus was to stop militants 922 01:01:08,680 --> 01:01:11,120 Speaker 2: from working with the Bedouins, to you know, to put 923 01:01:11,120 --> 01:01:14,840 Speaker 2: an end to slaughtering the drus outright, and the Drews 924 01:01:14,960 --> 01:01:19,400 Speaker 2: do see Israel as the potential savior, and absolutely I 925 01:01:19,560 --> 01:01:24,000 Speaker 2: agree that. You know, old thoughts die hard, and there 926 01:01:24,040 --> 01:01:26,760 Speaker 2: are many reasons why they shouldn't die at all. Regarding 927 01:01:26,840 --> 01:01:29,720 Speaker 2: whether you could trust this Al Qaeda offshoot to be 928 01:01:29,800 --> 01:01:31,840 Speaker 2: the leadership of Syria and somehow think that they're going 929 01:01:31,920 --> 01:01:35,680 Speaker 2: to be your friend, but the ir irreconcilable. Difference as 930 01:01:35,760 --> 01:01:38,960 Speaker 2: you write it is that, in your view, just a 931 01:01:40,400 --> 01:01:43,800 Speaker 2: bit of word play. There's a difference in strategy. Agreed, 932 01:01:44,440 --> 01:01:47,640 Speaker 2: But why do we come to the idea of irreconcilable. 933 01:01:48,080 --> 01:01:50,000 Speaker 9: I just don't know how it's going to be worked out. 934 01:01:50,800 --> 01:01:54,840 Speaker 9: So Tombarok, who is the President's ambassador to Turkey and 935 01:01:54,960 --> 01:01:58,840 Speaker 9: an informal ambassador to this new regime in Syria, which 936 01:01:58,880 --> 01:02:04,200 Speaker 9: is functionally a Turk project, he said in a rather 937 01:02:04,320 --> 01:02:09,720 Speaker 9: revealing interview that the Israeli conception of Syria, which it 938 01:02:09,800 --> 01:02:14,640 Speaker 9: has ample reason to have assembled over the course the 939 01:02:14,720 --> 01:02:19,480 Speaker 9: last fifty years, is that a strong united Arab state 940 01:02:20,360 --> 01:02:23,960 Speaker 9: is not in Israel's interest, that anything south of Damascus 941 01:02:24,680 --> 01:02:27,600 Speaker 9: should not necessarily be on the one hundred percent total 942 01:02:27,680 --> 01:02:30,440 Speaker 9: control of this regime because they just can't trust it. 943 01:02:30,560 --> 01:02:33,600 Speaker 9: They've never been able to trust the various state and 944 01:02:33,720 --> 01:02:35,840 Speaker 9: non state actors that populate this part of the world. 945 01:02:35,920 --> 01:02:40,600 Speaker 9: So they will never allow for a contiguous, whole, sovereign 946 01:02:40,680 --> 01:02:43,600 Speaker 9: Syria to emerge. And that's not in America's interest, not, 947 01:02:43,640 --> 01:02:48,440 Speaker 9: according to Tom Barrock, that they want to see a competent, capable, 948 01:02:48,560 --> 01:02:51,640 Speaker 9: sovereign government in control of the whole of Syria in 949 01:02:51,800 --> 01:02:55,080 Speaker 9: order to advance its interests in a much more stable 950 01:02:55,960 --> 01:03:00,000 Speaker 9: region and preferably one in which Syria has normalized relationship 951 01:03:00,480 --> 01:03:03,960 Speaker 9: not just with its Arab partners and it's she I 952 01:03:04,080 --> 01:03:07,200 Speaker 9: partners in the region, but also it's really that's their vision, 953 01:03:07,320 --> 01:03:10,480 Speaker 9: that's their aspiration, and it's a fine aspiration, but it's 954 01:03:10,560 --> 01:03:14,680 Speaker 9: when I think the security establishment in the Netnyahoo government 955 01:03:14,760 --> 01:03:17,080 Speaker 9: does not share and doesn't believe it's feasible. So I 956 01:03:17,120 --> 01:03:19,000 Speaker 9: don't think those two visions are reconcilable. 957 01:03:19,600 --> 01:03:23,320 Speaker 3: Talking to Noah Rothman of National Review, the piece Netanyahu 958 01:03:23,400 --> 01:03:26,240 Speaker 3: and Trump's air reconcilable differences over Syria. 959 01:03:26,440 --> 01:03:29,280 Speaker 2: You can get that at National Review dot com. That's 960 01:03:29,360 --> 01:03:34,280 Speaker 2: one story. The second story brings us back to the US. 961 01:03:34,960 --> 01:03:39,040 Speaker 2: Two revealing jokes highlight the Democrats' internal struggles, and then 962 01:03:39,080 --> 01:03:41,400 Speaker 2: it's a picture of Rama Manuel, the former chief of 963 01:03:41,440 --> 01:03:45,840 Speaker 2: staff of Barack Obama, and Zaron Mamdani, the communist Islamist 964 01:03:45,880 --> 01:03:48,680 Speaker 2: who might be very well the next mayor of New York. 965 01:03:48,880 --> 01:03:50,840 Speaker 2: I think the photos with the headline was the joke, 966 01:03:50,960 --> 01:03:54,280 Speaker 2: Like I thought that was well done and well played. 967 01:03:54,960 --> 01:03:57,480 Speaker 2: But this very much seems like a story when we 968 01:03:57,560 --> 01:04:01,200 Speaker 2: talk about Mamdani who I I've had people tell me, oh, 969 01:04:01,240 --> 01:04:03,720 Speaker 2: there's a possibility Cuomo could do this, and Eric Adams 970 01:04:03,760 --> 01:04:07,280 Speaker 2: could do that. And someone mentioned Curtis Lee, whether Republican nominee, 971 01:04:07,280 --> 01:04:09,840 Speaker 2: and I laughed out loud. I don't see how Mamdani 972 01:04:09,880 --> 01:04:13,120 Speaker 2: does not become the mayor of New York. But this, 973 01:04:13,720 --> 01:04:16,800 Speaker 2: while they may be him parading him around d C 974 01:04:17,200 --> 01:04:21,160 Speaker 2: for fundraisers, there does seem to be a very non 975 01:04:21,280 --> 01:04:25,040 Speaker 2: spoken about divide within the Democratic Party about what kind 976 01:04:25,120 --> 01:04:27,080 Speaker 2: of people they want to be in, who they want 977 01:04:27,160 --> 01:04:32,320 Speaker 2: to attract. Talk to me about how Ram Emmanuel plays 978 01:04:32,480 --> 01:04:34,000 Speaker 2: in this conversation. 979 01:04:35,200 --> 01:04:37,640 Speaker 9: Yeah, well that one was the pieces on what I 980 01:04:37,720 --> 01:04:41,760 Speaker 9: said were too revealing jokes that weren't really jokes but 981 01:04:41,840 --> 01:04:46,560 Speaker 9: are maindicative of the kind of conditions that are prevailing 982 01:04:46,560 --> 01:04:48,000 Speaker 9: in the Democratic Party today. 983 01:04:48,040 --> 01:04:48,880 Speaker 3: Emmanuel was on. 984 01:04:49,080 --> 01:04:52,480 Speaker 9: Megan Kelly's show and she asked him some rather pointed 985 01:04:52,560 --> 01:04:56,080 Speaker 9: questions about gender politics. Could men and women player? Could 986 01:04:56,160 --> 01:04:58,760 Speaker 9: men play in women's sports? Can men become women? 987 01:04:59,280 --> 01:05:00,800 Speaker 3: All those sort of thing, to which. 988 01:05:00,720 --> 01:05:03,720 Speaker 9: Emmanuel, very smartly knowing his audience, knowing his interlock, eutter 989 01:05:04,080 --> 01:05:07,960 Speaker 9: didn't Hedge gave him rather staccato, one word answers no. 990 01:05:09,080 --> 01:05:10,880 Speaker 9: Maybe sometimes there was a little bit of hesitation, but 991 01:05:10,960 --> 01:05:13,440 Speaker 9: there was generally no. And Kelly was impressed. She goes, 992 01:05:13,480 --> 01:05:16,280 Speaker 9: you know what was so hard about that, and Epstein replies, well, 993 01:05:16,320 --> 01:05:18,360 Speaker 9: because now I'm going to go into the witness protection program. 994 01:05:18,920 --> 01:05:19,480 Speaker 3: Hahaha. 995 01:05:20,360 --> 01:05:22,360 Speaker 9: But there's truth to it, right. The truth to that 996 01:05:22,600 --> 01:05:26,360 Speaker 9: is that there is menace abroad. There is teethede to 997 01:05:26,480 --> 01:05:30,000 Speaker 9: this regime, that there is enforcement, ruthless enforcement of gender 998 01:05:30,040 --> 01:05:32,680 Speaker 9: identity shibalists, to which the Democratic Party subscribes that no 999 01:05:32,800 --> 01:05:35,520 Speaker 9: one else, And that's the sort of thing the consulting 1000 01:05:35,560 --> 01:05:37,440 Speaker 9: class is trying to break the Democratic Party out of 1001 01:05:37,560 --> 01:05:38,000 Speaker 9: of which. 1002 01:05:37,880 --> 01:05:39,120 Speaker 3: Emmanuel is representative. 1003 01:05:39,600 --> 01:05:44,520 Speaker 9: But his confession there in that very humorous side, is 1004 01:05:44,680 --> 01:05:47,000 Speaker 9: that you know, this is an uphill battle because the 1005 01:05:47,080 --> 01:05:49,560 Speaker 9: forces are rayed against it are real and have real 1006 01:05:49,640 --> 01:05:51,720 Speaker 9: teeth and are going to come after me. The humor 1007 01:05:51,800 --> 01:05:53,600 Speaker 9: is in the exaggeration of the nature of the threat, 1008 01:05:53,960 --> 01:05:56,600 Speaker 9: but the threat is real. And the other joke comes 1009 01:05:56,640 --> 01:05:59,520 Speaker 9: from Zoramumdani, a resurfaced video of his address to the 1010 01:05:59,560 --> 01:06:03,680 Speaker 9: Democratic Socialists a convention of Democratic Socialists, and it sounds 1011 01:06:03,760 --> 01:06:06,560 Speaker 9: like the Twelfth Party Congress like it is the Presidium 1012 01:06:06,560 --> 01:06:09,240 Speaker 9: of the Soviet Union in this line, but in it 1013 01:06:09,880 --> 01:06:13,360 Speaker 9: he's introducing a failed candidate for New York City Council 1014 01:06:13,640 --> 01:06:15,600 Speaker 9: and he says, if you don't clap for this guy quote, 1015 01:06:15,640 --> 01:06:18,320 Speaker 9: you're a Zionist. The joke did not land very well, 1016 01:06:18,400 --> 01:06:19,560 Speaker 9: and he said, you don't have to clap. 1017 01:06:19,640 --> 01:06:20,360 Speaker 3: You know, this is a joke. 1018 01:06:20,480 --> 01:06:23,880 Speaker 9: He got clapped as a consolation prize. But the joke 1019 01:06:23,960 --> 01:06:26,240 Speaker 9: is also revealing. It's revealing of the degree to which 1020 01:06:26,640 --> 01:06:32,160 Speaker 9: the Zionist in that construction is the bad guy, the holy, irredeemable, 1021 01:06:33,400 --> 01:06:39,520 Speaker 9: ideologically captured, blinkered individual with whom you cannot negotiate. That's 1022 01:06:39,560 --> 01:06:42,680 Speaker 9: in Mount Donnie's worldview. And to your point earlier, when 1023 01:06:42,680 --> 01:06:44,360 Speaker 9: you had noted that there is a little bit of 1024 01:06:44,440 --> 01:06:47,600 Speaker 9: tension within this, I think Emmanuel is representative of that tension, 1025 01:06:47,640 --> 01:06:50,280 Speaker 9: in part because he's a Zionist, his father's in Israeli. 1026 01:06:51,400 --> 01:06:52,440 Speaker 3: But there's also some. 1027 01:06:52,560 --> 01:06:55,760 Speaker 9: Pushback against Mondani within the Democratic Party that has become 1028 01:06:55,880 --> 01:06:59,200 Speaker 9: rather vocal of Late yesterday, Pennsylvania Governor Joshapiro came out 1029 01:07:00,040 --> 01:07:03,960 Speaker 9: strong rebuke of mom Danny and his refusal to condemn 1030 01:07:04,080 --> 01:07:06,960 Speaker 9: hamaf saying that this leaves, you know, creates the conditions 1031 01:07:07,600 --> 01:07:13,000 Speaker 9: in which, you know, extreme actors can rise and engage 1032 01:07:13,120 --> 01:07:16,160 Speaker 9: in the stabilizing behaviors and violent behaviors. And in a 1033 01:07:16,280 --> 01:07:18,600 Speaker 9: city New York City, in which there was an one 1034 01:07:18,680 --> 01:07:21,280 Speaker 9: hundred and ten percent increase in anti Semitic incidences in 1035 01:07:21,360 --> 01:07:24,080 Speaker 9: twenty twenty three, followed by a forty five percent increase 1036 01:07:24,120 --> 01:07:28,200 Speaker 9: over that in twenty twenty four, there's real apprehension in 1037 01:07:28,320 --> 01:07:30,800 Speaker 9: this city over anti semitism and anti Semitic violence. And 1038 01:07:30,800 --> 01:07:33,080 Speaker 9: it's the sort of thing that Shapiro. 1039 01:07:32,880 --> 01:07:33,960 Speaker 3: Is right to give voice too. 1040 01:07:34,040 --> 01:07:36,920 Speaker 9: There's a significant democratic constituency for that message. 1041 01:07:37,000 --> 01:07:38,800 Speaker 3: You know, it's funny, but again there's teeth. 1042 01:07:38,920 --> 01:07:41,680 Speaker 9: You know, there's teeth. There's a lot of puzz pressure, 1043 01:07:42,000 --> 01:07:44,640 Speaker 9: social pressure on Democrats who avoid saying this much out. 1044 01:07:44,480 --> 01:07:46,160 Speaker 3: Loud, and well, I still got a minute with you. 1045 01:07:46,280 --> 01:07:48,560 Speaker 3: I think that's the part that more struck me here, 1046 01:07:48,720 --> 01:07:53,560 Speaker 3: you know, the conversation about the jokes. Notwithstanding it's that 1047 01:07:53,720 --> 01:07:55,920 Speaker 3: these are, it's still get me wrong. 1048 01:07:56,120 --> 01:07:59,160 Speaker 2: Rom Emmanuel is a progressive, absolutely never let a crisis 1049 01:07:59,240 --> 01:08:01,600 Speaker 2: go to waste, and he followed that up with because 1050 01:08:01,600 --> 01:08:03,360 Speaker 2: it allows you to do things you normally couldn't do. 1051 01:08:03,520 --> 01:08:05,760 Speaker 2: He was very clear about what he meant when he 1052 01:08:05,840 --> 01:08:08,280 Speaker 2: engaged that quote, and people always forget the second part, 1053 01:08:08,880 --> 01:08:12,280 Speaker 2: but it is part and parcel of the how fast 1054 01:08:12,360 --> 01:08:16,759 Speaker 2: you're moving to the left that Mamdani is the full 1055 01:08:17,040 --> 01:08:22,960 Speaker 2: recognition of their progressive, nake communist desires, and rama Manuel 1056 01:08:23,160 --> 01:08:26,040 Speaker 2: is still in the you know, there's an America. 1057 01:08:25,680 --> 01:08:27,360 Speaker 3: Here that we're going to need their votes to get 1058 01:08:28,400 --> 01:08:31,200 Speaker 3: on much larger issues. And that's where I kind of 1059 01:08:31,680 --> 01:08:35,800 Speaker 3: kind of took it that these two people that you're 1060 01:08:35,840 --> 01:08:40,000 Speaker 3: talking about, both making these these honest statements about levels 1061 01:08:40,040 --> 01:08:42,760 Speaker 3: of bigotry or insanity, as I would call them, they 1062 01:08:42,840 --> 01:08:44,559 Speaker 3: still are very, very different in. 1063 01:08:44,600 --> 01:08:46,880 Speaker 2: The kind of democratic party they're trying to put together. 1064 01:08:47,640 --> 01:08:50,120 Speaker 2: Whether one is honest and one is is kind of 1065 01:08:50,200 --> 01:08:53,000 Speaker 2: still trying to obfuscate, or one is clear headed and 1066 01:08:53,080 --> 01:08:59,280 Speaker 2: one is radically ideological. This divide is real, and I 1067 01:08:59,360 --> 01:09:03,040 Speaker 2: don't think now get your thoughts. Have the Democrats figured 1068 01:09:03,040 --> 01:09:06,000 Speaker 2: out how they're going to square this circle now? 1069 01:09:06,240 --> 01:09:09,920 Speaker 9: And they're but they're trying. I mean, there's no I 1070 01:09:09,960 --> 01:09:12,759 Speaker 9: don't I'm hesitant to say that there's an obvious answer 1071 01:09:12,920 --> 01:09:16,439 Speaker 9: to the big question that's royaling Democrats right now, which 1072 01:09:16,479 --> 01:09:19,280 Speaker 9: is do you have to moderate, do you have to 1073 01:09:19,320 --> 01:09:22,040 Speaker 9: appeal to the middle, Do you have to abandon some 1074 01:09:22,160 --> 01:09:26,640 Speaker 9: of these progressive, wild eyed social policies, for example, as 1075 01:09:26,680 --> 01:09:29,439 Speaker 9: well as economic policies and foreign policies that alienated so 1076 01:09:29,520 --> 01:09:33,519 Speaker 9: many voters. Or can you muscle through your vision and 1077 01:09:34,200 --> 01:09:38,519 Speaker 9: exploit your opponent's mistakes to the extent that, regardless of 1078 01:09:38,560 --> 01:09:41,479 Speaker 9: whether you're not especially representative of the median American voter, 1079 01:09:41,880 --> 01:09:44,680 Speaker 9: that you can still enjoy electoral success. I don't think 1080 01:09:44,720 --> 01:09:45,880 Speaker 9: there's an answer to that question. 1081 01:09:46,320 --> 01:09:50,920 Speaker 2: The Ohio Supreme Court Chief Justice appointed law school deans, 1082 01:09:51,200 --> 01:09:55,639 Speaker 2: Republican lawmakers, staffers, and court personnel to a committee charged 1083 01:09:55,720 --> 01:10:00,559 Speaker 2: with reviewing the accreditation process of the state's nine law schools, 1084 01:10:01,240 --> 01:10:04,760 Speaker 2: a task currently done by the American Bar Association, but 1085 01:10:04,880 --> 01:10:05,759 Speaker 2: they're under fire. 1086 01:10:05,920 --> 01:10:08,200 Speaker 3: Tony Katz, Tony Katz today, good to be with you. 1087 01:10:08,680 --> 01:10:10,679 Speaker 3: This comes from tax Profit blog. 1088 01:10:10,920 --> 01:10:13,519 Speaker 2: I don't know if you've ever seen what Paul Karen does, 1089 01:10:14,120 --> 01:10:16,280 Speaker 2: the dean there at Pepperdine the Crusoe School of Loss, 1090 01:10:16,320 --> 01:10:21,080 Speaker 2: an excellent blog, really is terrific. The story here is 1091 01:10:21,160 --> 01:10:25,240 Speaker 2: that the American Bar Association is not to be treated 1092 01:10:25,360 --> 01:10:29,280 Speaker 2: like it's some kind of vaunted institution that is on high. 1093 01:10:29,400 --> 01:10:31,320 Speaker 3: And above reproach. No, no, no, no, no no. 1094 01:10:32,280 --> 01:10:37,080 Speaker 2: This is not a great organization and they haven't been 1095 01:10:37,120 --> 01:10:41,960 Speaker 2: doing great work. As the quick reporting goes, the committee's 1096 01:10:42,040 --> 01:10:46,000 Speaker 2: work will focus on quote, identifying potential opportunities for innovation 1097 01:10:46,520 --> 01:10:49,040 Speaker 2: in light of the evolving needs of the legal profession. 1098 01:10:50,080 --> 01:10:53,280 Speaker 2: Maybe the ABA doesn't need to be the one who 1099 01:10:53,400 --> 01:10:55,120 Speaker 2: does the accreditation of law schools. 1100 01:10:55,960 --> 01:10:59,880 Speaker 3: Maybe that's a mistake. I love this. 1101 01:11:01,360 --> 01:11:04,280 Speaker 2: Because these are the things happening under the radar that 1102 01:11:04,439 --> 01:11:06,840 Speaker 2: getting back to some levels of normal and getting away 1103 01:11:06,880 --> 01:11:10,800 Speaker 2: from the woke. Pay attention to the story. It's gonna 1104 01:11:10,840 --> 01:11:14,519 Speaker 2: matter for your legal rights. This is Tony Katz Today 1105 01:11:31,439 --> 01:11:37,000 Speaker 2: live from Vaal Hartbiner and the Crossroads of America. It's 1106 01:11:37,120 --> 01:11:42,320 Speaker 2: Tony Katz Today. So the judge says no, a rejection 1107 01:11:43,360 --> 01:11:47,080 Speaker 2: of unsealing the Epstein Grand jury transcripts. 1108 01:11:47,200 --> 01:11:50,120 Speaker 3: Can we can we at least find out why? 1109 01:11:50,320 --> 01:11:50,720 Speaker 16: That is? 1110 01:11:50,960 --> 01:11:54,600 Speaker 2: Tony Katz, Tony Katz Today, Good to be with you. 1111 01:11:54,840 --> 01:11:58,200 Speaker 2: Eight three three got Tony eight three three four six 1112 01:11:58,360 --> 01:12:00,439 Speaker 2: eight eight six six'. Nine that's how you gets to 1113 01:12:00,439 --> 01:12:05,719 Speaker 2: be a part of the. Show the request of course 1114 01:12:06,240 --> 01:12:08,960 Speaker 2: from federal investigations Into epstein in two thousand and. Five 1115 01:12:09,000 --> 01:12:12,840 Speaker 2: in two thousand and, Seven Justice department has pending requests 1116 01:12:12,840 --> 01:12:16,000 Speaker 2: to unsealed transcripts In Manhattan Federal court related to a 1117 01:12:16,120 --> 01:12:19,599 Speaker 2: later indictment brought Against. Epstein and of course the woman 1118 01:12:19,680 --> 01:12:22,519 Speaker 2: in jail Now Julane, maxwell she was the one who 1119 01:12:22,600 --> 01:12:27,960 Speaker 2: procured the underage. Girls that's what she, Did that's who she. 1120 01:12:28,200 --> 01:12:31,160 Speaker 2: IS i have no issue based on WHAT i know 1121 01:12:31,200 --> 01:12:34,520 Speaker 2: of this case with her being in, jail although supposedly 1122 01:12:34,640 --> 01:12:36,720 Speaker 2: she's got more information to. 1123 01:12:36,840 --> 01:12:38,160 Speaker 3: GIVE i don't know what she's trying to. 1124 01:12:38,240 --> 01:12:44,400 Speaker 2: Do the judge IN i think it's A Florida THE 1125 01:12:44,520 --> 01:12:47,839 Speaker 2: Us District Judge Robin rosenberg found that The Justice apartment 1126 01:12:47,960 --> 01:12:50,640 Speaker 2: request did not fall into any of the exceptions to 1127 01:12:50,800 --> 01:12:53,559 Speaker 2: rules requiring grand jury material be kept. 1128 01:12:53,600 --> 01:12:56,200 Speaker 3: Secret so does that mean it's a? 1129 01:12:56,280 --> 01:12:59,280 Speaker 2: Technicality and if The Justice apartment comes back at, this 1130 01:13:00,000 --> 01:13:03,519 Speaker 2: they will get the ability to unseal things and we 1131 01:13:03,600 --> 01:13:05,240 Speaker 2: can ask the, question how did we. 1132 01:13:05,439 --> 01:13:08,559 Speaker 3: Get to this place Regarding. 1133 01:13:10,160 --> 01:13:13,640 Speaker 2: Jeffrey, epstein or we got to this place because we 1134 01:13:13,720 --> 01:13:18,160 Speaker 2: didn't release materials fast, enough Because Pam bondi screwed around 1135 01:13:18,240 --> 01:13:21,559 Speaker 2: with the releasing, materials and The president decided to, say 1136 01:13:21,600 --> 01:13:23,719 Speaker 2: why do you all care about? This as if everybody 1137 01:13:23,800 --> 01:13:29,120 Speaker 2: was gonna fall in. Line i'm saying they did. This 1138 01:13:30,920 --> 01:13:33,720 Speaker 2: now the left and the, media, well dear, lord this 1139 01:13:33,920 --> 01:13:37,120 Speaker 2: is they, like, ooh an. OPPORTUNITY i don't think they 1140 01:13:37,240 --> 01:13:41,800 Speaker 2: understand how poorly this this. Plays and one of the 1141 01:13:41,920 --> 01:13:46,120 Speaker 2: things that is truly poorly played is the people who 1142 01:13:46,200 --> 01:13:51,080 Speaker 2: think that this is going to somehow drive a wedge Into. 1143 01:13:51,200 --> 01:13:54,640 Speaker 3: Magaville that is absolutely not. 1144 01:13:55,000 --> 01:14:02,240 Speaker 2: Happening no one AND i mean absolutely no one is 1145 01:14:02,479 --> 01:14:08,080 Speaker 2: leaving Trump world Or magaville Over Jeffrey, epstein no. 1146 01:14:08,240 --> 01:14:13,599 Speaker 3: One this was CNN's John. King this would be less. 1147 01:14:13,400 --> 01:14:16,760 Speaker 13: Of an issue for the president if you, know this 1148 01:14:16,880 --> 01:14:18,320 Speaker 13: has actually split. 1149 01:14:18,479 --> 01:14:21,120 Speaker 3: Magup in many. Ways for in sometimes it's the first 1150 01:14:21,240 --> 01:14:22,400 Speaker 3: real example we've seen of. 1151 01:14:22,479 --> 01:14:25,800 Speaker 17: That, WELL i think you've seen the sort of influencer 1152 01:14:26,160 --> 01:14:30,759 Speaker 17: self described influencer salon here basically In washington that's completely 1153 01:14:30,800 --> 01:14:33,439 Speaker 17: spun up about. It the SURVEYS i see of regular 1154 01:14:33,520 --> 01:14:35,280 Speaker 17: voters say that they're a whole lot more worried about 1155 01:14:35,439 --> 01:14:38,040 Speaker 17: can they afford a house or mortgage rates too, high 1156 01:14:38,320 --> 01:14:40,320 Speaker 17: what's going to happen with the, economy what's going to 1157 01:14:40,360 --> 01:14:43,280 Speaker 17: happen with. TRADE i think that the president's right to 1158 01:14:43,400 --> 01:14:45,360 Speaker 17: try to free focus attention on that BECAUSE i think 1159 01:14:45,439 --> 01:14:47,800 Speaker 17: voters do care about it. More but you're correct that 1160 01:14:47,920 --> 01:14:52,559 Speaker 17: the talk radio, influencers the clickbait, influencers those, people they 1161 01:14:52,640 --> 01:14:52,960 Speaker 17: think this. 1162 01:14:53,120 --> 01:14:53,600 Speaker 9: Is right for. 1163 01:14:53,680 --> 01:14:55,200 Speaker 1: PROFIT i just reached out to a whole bunch of 1164 01:14:55,280 --> 01:14:57,280 Speaker 1: Our trump voters from all over The map, project and you're. 1165 01:14:57,360 --> 01:14:57,960 Speaker 3: Right, actually you're. 1166 01:14:58,040 --> 01:14:59,960 Speaker 16: Right they're not even said they're turning on the, present 1167 01:15:00,400 --> 01:15:03,000 Speaker 16: and they all say costs the economy are way more 1168 01:15:03,040 --> 01:15:03,439 Speaker 16: important to. 1169 01:15:03,479 --> 01:15:06,280 Speaker 3: Them but they also say this. Smells they also say this, 1170 01:15:06,360 --> 01:15:10,639 Speaker 3: smells and they want to know. Why, Correct that's the whole. 1171 01:15:10,760 --> 01:15:13,640 Speaker 2: Point how in the world Did Donald trump miss that 1172 01:15:14,920 --> 01:15:16,439 Speaker 2: this is about who is abusing. 1173 01:15:16,560 --> 01:15:17,840 Speaker 3: Children let's say it. 1174 01:15:17,880 --> 01:15:19,880 Speaker 2: Again let's say for the people in the cheap, seats 1175 01:15:20,439 --> 01:15:23,880 Speaker 2: a society that allows children to be abused is not 1176 01:15:24,000 --> 01:15:24,840 Speaker 2: a society worth. 1177 01:15:24,880 --> 01:15:27,200 Speaker 3: Having it is not a society that can survive and. 1178 01:15:27,320 --> 01:15:28,000 Speaker 3: Thrive it. 1179 01:15:28,240 --> 01:15:31,920 Speaker 2: Can't we need to know who was, involved and those 1180 01:15:32,040 --> 01:15:34,240 Speaker 2: sons of you know what's need to go to. JAIL 1181 01:15:35,720 --> 01:15:37,880 Speaker 2: i didn't know this was such a difficult thing to. 1182 01:15:38,000 --> 01:15:41,280 Speaker 2: SAY i don't care WHO i, am so on the 1183 01:15:41,400 --> 01:15:41,880 Speaker 2: record with. 1184 01:15:42,000 --> 01:15:43,760 Speaker 3: This you guys know. 1185 01:15:43,880 --> 01:15:46,599 Speaker 2: IT i don't care. WHO i don't care their last. 1186 01:15:46,680 --> 01:15:50,720 Speaker 2: NAME i don't care how much money they. 1187 01:15:50,800 --> 01:15:55,360 Speaker 3: HAVE i just don't. Care don't, care do not. 1188 01:15:55,640 --> 01:15:59,719 Speaker 2: CARE i don't care who they're connected. To you abuse, children, 1189 01:16:00,160 --> 01:16:05,720 Speaker 2: jail Your Prince, andrew you abuse, children. JAIL i don't, 1190 01:16:05,800 --> 01:16:09,599 Speaker 2: care AND i don't think you do. Either that's why 1191 01:16:09,680 --> 01:16:13,599 Speaker 2: all this, mattered because you cannot have a society where 1192 01:16:13,600 --> 01:16:16,000 Speaker 2: there are rules for the rich and rules for. Us, 1193 01:16:16,680 --> 01:16:20,880 Speaker 2: nope not having. That so, Yes trump people are very, 1194 01:16:21,000 --> 01:16:22,600 Speaker 2: clear we want to know what happened. Here why in 1195 01:16:22,640 --> 01:16:25,439 Speaker 2: the world won't you tell? Us but not voting For? 1196 01:16:25,520 --> 01:16:30,560 Speaker 3: Trump that's. Insane and then came this this conversation that 1197 01:16:31,000 --> 01:16:34,479 Speaker 3: Somehow trump is in. 1198 01:16:34,720 --> 01:16:35,680 Speaker 12: The in the. 1199 01:16:35,760 --> 01:16:38,800 Speaker 3: Files how in the world do we know? 1200 01:16:38,920 --> 01:16:42,560 Speaker 2: That, Well The Wall Street journal Says Pam bondi and 1201 01:16:42,680 --> 01:16:46,360 Speaker 2: her Deputy Todd blanche Informed President trump In may that 1202 01:16:46,520 --> 01:16:49,439 Speaker 2: his name appeared multiple times in the government files On 1203 01:16:49,560 --> 01:16:52,240 Speaker 2: Jeffrey epstein that THE dj and THE fbi. 1204 01:16:52,360 --> 01:16:56,479 Speaker 3: Reviewed. FIRST i was told there was no. List, now 1205 01:16:56,479 --> 01:16:57,360 Speaker 3: all of a, sudden there's a. 1206 01:16:57,439 --> 01:17:01,880 Speaker 2: List If Donald trump was involved With Jeffrey epstein in this, 1207 01:17:02,120 --> 01:17:06,240 Speaker 2: way it would have been leaked. Already we all know, 1208 01:17:06,439 --> 01:17:09,320 Speaker 2: this but the idea that there could have been a 1209 01:17:09,439 --> 01:17:11,960 Speaker 2: mention Of Donald trump because they all knew each, other 1210 01:17:12,240 --> 01:17:14,000 Speaker 2: and there was a time where they were, friends but. 1211 01:17:14,080 --> 01:17:15,200 Speaker 3: They was friends with everybody was. 1212 01:17:15,280 --> 01:17:20,320 Speaker 2: Friends epstein was friends With George. Stephanopolis. Right wasn't there 1213 01:17:20,400 --> 01:17:22,240 Speaker 2: that dinner that took place after he got out of 1214 01:17:22,320 --> 01:17:24,320 Speaker 2: jail In? Florida there was a dinner at his house 1215 01:17:24,600 --> 01:17:26,400 Speaker 2: In New york and And Chelsea? 1216 01:17:26,479 --> 01:17:27,200 Speaker 3: HANDLER i think was? 1217 01:17:27,240 --> 01:17:30,920 Speaker 2: There wasn't it that It Chelsea, handler hold, On Chelsea, 1218 01:17:31,439 --> 01:17:36,080 Speaker 2: Handler George. Stephanopolis by the, WAY i didn't have to 1219 01:17:36,120 --> 01:17:40,000 Speaker 2: look it. UP i know it as Spelled, Stephanopolis Jeffrey epstein. 1220 01:17:40,320 --> 01:17:44,559 Speaker 2: DINNER i remember the story as as clear as. DAY 1221 01:17:44,560 --> 01:17:48,000 Speaker 2: i heard this The New York. Times Jeffrey epstein was 1222 01:17:48,080 --> 01:17:50,120 Speaker 2: a sex. Offender this was the first story that came. 1223 01:17:50,240 --> 01:17:56,719 Speaker 2: Up the powerful welcomed him. Anyway in twenty, Ten Chelsea 1224 01:17:56,880 --> 01:18:01,400 Speaker 2: handler And George stephanopolis attended a dinner hosted By Jeffrey 1225 01:18:01,439 --> 01:18:03,840 Speaker 2: epstein In New York, city where they were joined by 1226 01:18:03,960 --> 01:18:07,599 Speaker 2: other notable figures such As Katie kirk And Woody. 1227 01:18:07,640 --> 01:18:11,600 Speaker 3: Allen, okay they went to dinner With Woody. Allen and 1228 01:18:11,720 --> 01:18:15,040 Speaker 3: now they're gonna tell. Us now they're gonna tell us 1229 01:18:15,080 --> 01:18:19,680 Speaker 3: About trump and. Children, Oh Woody allen movies make me. 1230 01:18:19,720 --> 01:18:24,519 Speaker 3: Happy Woody allen books Are Joyous Without feathers is a great. 1231 01:18:24,600 --> 01:18:29,760 Speaker 3: Book but they're not gonna match. This it's Only, Trump Trump. 1232 01:18:30,880 --> 01:18:33,479 Speaker 2: TRUMP i do not believe for a Second trump had 1233 01:18:33,520 --> 01:18:36,719 Speaker 2: anything to do with underage, children not for a. Second 1234 01:18:36,920 --> 01:18:39,920 Speaker 2: BUT i want the. Information but let's go back to 1235 01:18:40,000 --> 01:18:42,360 Speaker 2: the story The Wall Street. Journal it is just the 1236 01:18:42,439 --> 01:18:45,040 Speaker 2: Same Wall Street journal that said they had a typed 1237 01:18:45,120 --> 01:18:47,600 Speaker 2: letter From trump Wishing Jeffrey epstein a happy, birthday a 1238 01:18:47,720 --> 01:18:51,800 Speaker 2: body letter Where trump is drawing basically nude women on the. Letter, 1239 01:18:52,080 --> 01:18:54,040 Speaker 2: yeah these are the People i'm gonna, trust Not and 1240 01:18:54,120 --> 01:18:57,439 Speaker 2: that's Not that's not going to. Happen Is trump in some. 1241 01:18:57,640 --> 01:19:01,160 Speaker 2: FILE i absolutely believe that possible to mean. ANYTHING i 1242 01:19:01,240 --> 01:19:07,600 Speaker 2: have no, idea no, Idea but we want answers to 1243 01:19:08,520 --> 01:19:11,840 Speaker 2: this basic question of who was involved in abusing. 1244 01:19:11,560 --> 01:19:14,519 Speaker 3: Children who was on the. Island that's what we. Want 1245 01:19:15,120 --> 01:19:18,800 Speaker 3: the left wants to destroy and now this is. True 1246 01:19:18,920 --> 01:19:22,680 Speaker 3: i'm dealing with this with a local progressives WHERE i. 1247 01:19:22,880 --> 01:19:25,400 Speaker 3: Live they want to come at me because they never 1248 01:19:25,479 --> 01:19:25,880 Speaker 3: listen to the. 1249 01:19:25,920 --> 01:19:28,680 Speaker 2: Show they never listen to my six hours of radio a, 1250 01:19:28,760 --> 01:19:31,719 Speaker 2: day WHERE i have said REPEATEDLY i want this, information 1251 01:19:32,080 --> 01:19:34,120 Speaker 2: and they're, like, Oh trump's gonna get. 1252 01:19:34,160 --> 01:19:35,280 Speaker 3: It you keep covering For. 1253 01:19:35,439 --> 01:19:38,080 Speaker 2: Trump they don't, listen and you'll find this in your. 1254 01:19:38,120 --> 01:19:40,599 Speaker 2: Life it's probably happening in your. Life progressives don't. Listen 1255 01:19:40,640 --> 01:19:43,439 Speaker 2: they don't care to. Listen that part doesn't. Matter it 1256 01:19:43,560 --> 01:19:45,840 Speaker 2: is all about attack and. Destroy they Hate Donald trump 1257 01:19:45,960 --> 01:19:48,800 Speaker 2: so much they can't, think they can't use their, mind 1258 01:19:48,840 --> 01:19:51,040 Speaker 2: they can't, engage they just can't be. Normal So i've 1259 01:19:51,080 --> 01:19:53,920 Speaker 2: Got democrats here WHERE i live In. Indiana they just 1260 01:19:54,000 --> 01:19:57,040 Speaker 2: can't be, normal and they Lead County Democratic party and 1261 01:19:57,080 --> 01:20:00,840 Speaker 2: they're just full on. Attack they can't even Th they 1262 01:20:00,880 --> 01:20:03,840 Speaker 2: don't listen to WHAT i say on the air every single. 1263 01:20:04,000 --> 01:20:08,320 Speaker 2: Day but you know how little they care about children 1264 01:20:08,760 --> 01:20:11,920 Speaker 2: when all they can do is think About. Trump that's 1265 01:20:11,960 --> 01:20:15,280 Speaker 2: the difference between us and. Them kids were abused and 1266 01:20:15,320 --> 01:20:16,720 Speaker 2: we want to know who and we want to know 1267 01:20:16,800 --> 01:20:19,720 Speaker 2: who did. This and that's WHEN i say, Who we 1268 01:20:19,760 --> 01:20:21,519 Speaker 2: want to know who did, this and we want them 1269 01:20:21,560 --> 01:20:25,360 Speaker 2: to face justice because you can't abuse. Children that's what we. 1270 01:20:25,560 --> 01:20:29,479 Speaker 2: Want they want to Hurt Donald. Trump they don't care 1271 01:20:29,600 --> 01:20:32,160 Speaker 2: if kids get. ABUSED i, mean this is the party 1272 01:20:32,320 --> 01:20:35,160 Speaker 2: that's absolutely willing to mutilate little boys and tell them 1273 01:20:35,200 --> 01:20:38,280 Speaker 2: that they're. Girls this is the party that says men 1274 01:20:38,360 --> 01:20:40,920 Speaker 2: can change in women's locker rooms and women just lay 1275 01:20:41,040 --> 01:20:41,679 Speaker 2: back and take. 1276 01:20:41,760 --> 01:20:44,640 Speaker 3: It that's The. Democrats they're fine with. 1277 01:20:44,800 --> 01:20:50,120 Speaker 2: Abuse they cry Like Representative Acasia cortes at the border 1278 01:20:50,400 --> 01:20:53,400 Speaker 2: When trump is in, Office but When biden is losing 1279 01:20:53,560 --> 01:20:55,559 Speaker 2: hundreds of thousands of, children she. 1280 01:20:55,640 --> 01:20:58,800 Speaker 3: Doesn't say a. Word she doesn't. Care how about the 1281 01:20:58,880 --> 01:21:02,479 Speaker 3: fact that sixty six thousand kids called the hotline because 1282 01:21:02,479 --> 01:21:04,799 Speaker 3: they were priving problems with their host families and, abuse 1283 01:21:05,040 --> 01:21:07,280 Speaker 3: and sixty six thousand of those calls That i'm just 1284 01:21:07,400 --> 01:21:08,439 Speaker 3: talking about when. 1285 01:21:08,640 --> 01:21:13,040 Speaker 2: Unanswered that was in a congressional hearing just the other. 1286 01:21:13,120 --> 01:21:16,519 Speaker 2: Day democrats don't care about. Kids they don't give a. 1287 01:21:16,600 --> 01:21:19,080 Speaker 2: Damn they don't care if a kid gets abused or 1288 01:21:19,200 --> 01:21:23,280 Speaker 2: sexually trafficked based on their own, words but they sure 1289 01:21:23,520 --> 01:21:27,160 Speaker 2: have care that they can Destroy trump and election day 1290 01:21:27,200 --> 01:21:30,360 Speaker 2: is no twenty twenty Sixth you can't let these people 1291 01:21:30,439 --> 01:21:30,600 Speaker 2: be in. 1292 01:21:30,680 --> 01:21:34,800 Speaker 3: Power they're just not decent. Enough keep it. Here I'm Tony. 1293 01:21:34,880 --> 01:21:35,960 Speaker 3: Katz this Is Tony kats. 1294 01:21:36,000 --> 01:21:40,080 Speaker 4: Today and also IF i can have your handy TO 1295 01:21:41,320 --> 01:21:44,000 Speaker 4: cbs And, paramount. 1296 01:21:45,120 --> 01:21:51,599 Speaker 3: A plague on both of your, houses, Right i'm very. 1297 01:21:51,600 --> 01:21:55,280 Speaker 18: Grateful, yes, YES i think crick have been a great. 1298 01:21:55,320 --> 01:21:56,320 Speaker 3: Part, yes, yes. 1299 01:21:56,960 --> 01:22:00,599 Speaker 2: No and also a pox on all those they, serve 1300 01:22:01,360 --> 01:22:04,640 Speaker 2: you mean all the thousands, employees thousands of employees OF 1301 01:22:04,760 --> 01:22:05,680 Speaker 2: cbs and. 1302 01:22:07,560 --> 01:22:09,040 Speaker 3: In paramounts a pox on. 1303 01:22:09,160 --> 01:22:12,799 Speaker 2: Them Has paramount ever made a Movie you're in sandro 1304 01:22:13,160 --> 01:22:17,839 Speaker 2: or television show OR cbs is out of their minds 1305 01:22:18,000 --> 01:22:21,880 Speaker 2: if they Let Stephen colbert, continue this has gone down 1306 01:22:21,920 --> 01:22:26,439 Speaker 2: a road of. Psychosis Tony, Katz Tony katz, today what 1307 01:22:26,680 --> 01:22:27,080 Speaker 2: is going? 1308 01:22:27,120 --> 01:22:27,160 Speaker 5: On? 1309 01:22:27,400 --> 01:22:30,639 Speaker 2: Everybody eight three three four six eight eight six six' 1310 01:22:30,800 --> 01:22:33,559 Speaker 2: nine eight three Three, got tony that's how you get 1311 01:22:33,600 --> 01:22:34,080 Speaker 2: to be a part of. 1312 01:22:34,120 --> 01:22:38,439 Speaker 3: The program this. Is NUTS and i swear to you 1313 01:22:39,040 --> 01:22:39,479 Speaker 3: that came. 1314 01:22:39,520 --> 01:22:41,960 Speaker 2: Out LATER like i found out about that later When 1315 01:22:42,560 --> 01:22:45,479 Speaker 2: Actress sandra o was on. HIS show i wasn't going 1316 01:22:45,520 --> 01:22:46,320 Speaker 2: to SHARE that i had. 1317 01:22:46,360 --> 01:22:50,080 Speaker 3: Something better something better Was From stephen. 1318 01:22:50,160 --> 01:22:54,400 Speaker 2: Colbert himself and of course you know that the show 1319 01:22:54,479 --> 01:22:56,559 Speaker 2: got CANCELED because cbs is getting out of the late 1320 01:22:56,680 --> 01:23:00,200 Speaker 2: night game because they say the show lost four forty, 1321 01:23:00,240 --> 01:23:03,320 Speaker 2: million dollars and what people say is, as well IT'S 1322 01:23:03,320 --> 01:23:07,160 Speaker 2: because cbs Settled With, donald TRUMP because cbs did something 1323 01:23:07,320 --> 01:23:11,080 Speaker 2: very wrong and manipulating video trying to give an inkind 1324 01:23:11,200 --> 01:23:16,320 Speaker 2: Endorsement To. Kamala harris that's. What happened it's, what happened 1325 01:23:16,520 --> 01:23:18,840 Speaker 2: so we don't have to debate that part. Of it 1326 01:23:19,680 --> 01:23:22,200 Speaker 2: there was, a lawsuit there was. A settlement it was sixteen. 1327 01:23:22,280 --> 01:23:24,200 Speaker 2: Million Dollars At president trump, is, saying oh it'll be 1328 01:23:24,320 --> 01:23:27,040 Speaker 2: More because paramount is selling. 1329 01:23:27,640 --> 01:23:30,400 Speaker 3: And you'll get this and whatever the case may be, 1330 01:23:30,479 --> 01:23:33,160 Speaker 3: there right if, it's more it's. NOT more i have. 1331 01:23:33,240 --> 01:23:38,320 Speaker 3: No idea but you have now people coming on. Attacking 1332 01:23:38,400 --> 01:23:38,920 Speaker 3: you this. 1333 01:23:39,080 --> 01:23:41,800 Speaker 2: IS happening cbs is going to let this guy be 1334 01:23:41,920 --> 01:23:44,320 Speaker 2: on the Air, until may and everyone's going TO attack 1335 01:23:44,439 --> 01:23:48,519 Speaker 2: cbs for. Ten months by, THE way cbs wants to 1336 01:23:48,560 --> 01:23:50,160 Speaker 2: offer me a late night show, Right now i'll. 1337 01:23:50,200 --> 01:23:51,360 Speaker 3: Take it i'll. 1338 01:23:51,439 --> 01:23:55,040 Speaker 2: TAKE it i don't even know What was colbert. Getting paid, 1339 01:23:55,080 --> 01:23:58,519 Speaker 2: hold on han he have we ever asked What is 1340 01:23:58,880 --> 01:24:04,679 Speaker 2: stephen cole? Bear, salary well, let's see let's see what he's. 1341 01:24:04,960 --> 01:24:12,000 Speaker 2: Uh Making, Hold on, I'm looking, I'm looking, i'm looking looking. 1342 01:24:12,680 --> 01:24:16,520 Speaker 3: He has a net worth of seventy five. Million dollars. 1343 01:24:17,840 --> 01:24:20,479 Speaker 2: That's at Least what Times of, india rites who knows 1344 01:24:20,920 --> 01:24:24,719 Speaker 2: if it's one thousand. Percent, accurate oh he's getting six 1345 01:24:24,880 --> 01:24:28,519 Speaker 2: million dollars. A, year, no wait that was his. 1346 01:24:28,680 --> 01:24:30,400 Speaker 3: Debut year he got. 1347 01:24:30,479 --> 01:24:34,080 Speaker 2: Six million four, years later he signed a contract in 1348 01:24:34,160 --> 01:24:38,320 Speaker 2: twenty nineteen that got him fifteen million dollars. 1349 01:24:38,400 --> 01:24:43,400 Speaker 3: A year fifteen million is what he. 1350 01:24:43,560 --> 01:24:47,080 Speaker 2: Was making he makes eighty, nine thousand eight hundred dollars, 1351 01:24:47,360 --> 01:24:52,479 Speaker 2: per episode fifteen million. A year i will do it 1352 01:24:52,640 --> 01:24:55,400 Speaker 2: for a tenth of. THE money i will do it 1353 01:24:55,520 --> 01:24:58,280 Speaker 2: for the for a tenth of the money, RIGHT, now 1354 01:24:59,600 --> 01:25:00,760 Speaker 2: cba this, Offered me i'd. 1355 01:25:00,880 --> 01:25:02,559 Speaker 3: Say yes and you. 1356 01:25:02,640 --> 01:25:05,280 Speaker 2: Heard there That that, he's, LIKE Oh i i'm. REALLY 1357 01:25:05,320 --> 01:25:08,560 Speaker 2: grateful I think i think THAT that cbs has been a. 1358 01:25:08,600 --> 01:25:12,640 Speaker 2: Great partner if that's, The case if YOU think cbs 1359 01:25:12,840 --> 01:25:16,160 Speaker 2: is a, great partner why in the world did you? 1360 01:25:16,320 --> 01:25:18,360 Speaker 3: Say This? Stephen? Cole? There wow. 1361 01:25:18,520 --> 01:25:21,840 Speaker 18: Hold, on plus they're paying his legal FEES sixteen us. 1362 01:25:21,840 --> 01:25:25,920 Speaker 18: Twenty thirsty that means by bending, the knee they lost 1363 01:25:26,160 --> 01:25:27,639 Speaker 18: like forty million dollars. 1364 01:25:27,720 --> 01:25:30,679 Speaker 3: This year they better. Watch out. 1365 01:25:32,000 --> 01:25:32,439 Speaker 9: They better. 1366 01:25:32,479 --> 01:25:41,879 Speaker 3: Watch out they might. Get canceled we're purely. Financial True. 1367 01:25:44,920 --> 01:25:44,960 Speaker 4: The. 1368 01:25:45,120 --> 01:25:49,599 Speaker 18: President owners the president owners are denying that additional twenty, 1369 01:25:49,640 --> 01:25:52,439 Speaker 18: million DOLLARS which i hope, is true because could you 1370 01:25:52,560 --> 01:25:56,760 Speaker 18: imagine how angry people? Would be Last year paramount laid 1371 01:25:56,800 --> 01:26:01,000 Speaker 18: off two, thousand employees then cut another several hundred just, 1372 01:26:01,120 --> 01:26:04,040 Speaker 18: last month firing that, many people and then handing over 1373 01:26:04,400 --> 01:26:07,200 Speaker 18: thirty six mil to a guy who's putting your neighbors in, 1374 01:26:07,360 --> 01:26:10,200 Speaker 18: alligator camps all because of a lawsuit. 1375 01:26:09,880 --> 01:26:11,799 Speaker 3: That your own lawyer said was completely. 1376 01:26:11,880 --> 01:26:15,400 Speaker 18: Without merit if, that's true it WOULD make cbs look, 1377 01:26:15,520 --> 01:26:16,560 Speaker 18: morally bankrupt. 1378 01:26:18,040 --> 01:26:19,479 Speaker 3: Also bankrupt. 1379 01:26:22,080 --> 01:26:24,599 Speaker 2: HOW is cbs going to allow this guy to attack 1380 01:26:24,640 --> 01:26:27,599 Speaker 2: them for? Ten months he just you just heard It With, sandra, 1381 01:26:27,720 --> 01:26:30,519 Speaker 2: oh oh they're a. Great partner does that sound like 1382 01:26:30,600 --> 01:26:33,160 Speaker 2: he THINKS of cbs is a? Great partner. 1383 01:26:34,520 --> 01:26:40,840 Speaker 3: First, HE says cbs bends. The knee is that what? 1384 01:26:41,000 --> 01:26:44,240 Speaker 3: They did they have a business, To run they have 1385 01:26:44,640 --> 01:26:45,920 Speaker 3: people that they have to. 1386 01:26:46,479 --> 01:26:49,720 Speaker 2: Care for remember the People THAT sandra o wants a 1387 01:26:49,840 --> 01:26:53,200 Speaker 2: pox on because she had never worked for anybody who. 1388 01:26:53,240 --> 01:26:55,400 Speaker 3: Was duplicitous, next thing. 1389 01:26:55,280 --> 01:26:57,640 Speaker 2: You know guys who did Movies For harvey weinstein are 1390 01:26:57,640 --> 01:26:59,200 Speaker 2: gonna Be, LIKE, oh cbs you're. 1391 01:26:59,280 --> 01:27:04,439 Speaker 3: So terrible everybody else. Is terrible. They're great bend. The 1392 01:27:04,560 --> 01:27:10,640 Speaker 3: knee and then you say you have a guy dominating 1393 01:27:10,800 --> 01:27:14,040 Speaker 3: your your late night who you are giving the off 1394 01:27:14,200 --> 01:27:18,240 Speaker 3: ramp to in the most generous, way possible talking about 1395 01:27:18,240 --> 01:27:20,800 Speaker 3: how you're laying people off and you're terrible, for that 1396 01:27:22,680 --> 01:27:27,160 Speaker 3: and that you're. Morally bankrupt what are, YOU? Doing cbs 1397 01:27:28,479 --> 01:27:32,599 Speaker 3: how is this guy still on the? Air again one 1398 01:27:32,640 --> 01:27:35,439 Speaker 3: point five million. A year i'll do. THE show i 1399 01:27:35,560 --> 01:27:38,000 Speaker 3: will do, the Show and i'll do It, from INDIANAPOLIS 1400 01:27:38,240 --> 01:27:41,400 Speaker 3: and i will. Do better i'll do Better Than stephen 1401 01:27:41,479 --> 01:27:46,160 Speaker 3: colbert in, Six months i'll do Better Than. Stephen colbert and, 1402 01:27:46,280 --> 01:27:47,240 Speaker 3: If not i'll give the. 1403 01:27:47,280 --> 01:27:50,240 Speaker 2: MONEY back i will put my money where my mouth 1404 01:27:50,439 --> 01:27:52,080 Speaker 2: is every day of, the week or Twice. 1405 01:27:52,120 --> 01:27:56,839 Speaker 3: On sunday but let's go back to the question. At hand. 1406 01:27:58,160 --> 01:28:01,080 Speaker 2: This guy wants to SAY that cbs has been a, 1407 01:28:01,120 --> 01:28:04,200 Speaker 2: great partner and this is what. He does this is 1408 01:28:04,360 --> 01:28:10,120 Speaker 2: the very personal attack that he's, engaged in AND somehow 1409 01:28:10,640 --> 01:28:11,800 Speaker 2: cbs is just supposed to. 1410 01:28:11,800 --> 01:28:13,840 Speaker 3: Take this why? Would they why? 1411 01:28:13,880 --> 01:28:22,040 Speaker 2: Would, ANYBODY nah cbs should say goodbye. Right now there's 1412 01:28:22,160 --> 01:28:25,400 Speaker 2: no need for this to continue. Any longer let, people 1413 01:28:25,520 --> 01:28:30,280 Speaker 2: scream let. People yell they're gonna do. It anyway you 1414 01:28:30,520 --> 01:28:34,320 Speaker 2: can avoid ten months worth. Of nonsense pay on. 1415 01:28:34,439 --> 01:28:38,400 Speaker 3: His contract you're gonna pay, him, anyway goodbye but don't 1416 01:28:38,520 --> 01:28:41,080 Speaker 3: give him any opportunity to keep punching. 1417 01:28:41,160 --> 01:28:41,400 Speaker 1: At you. 1418 01:28:42,040 --> 01:28:46,559 Speaker 3: That's insane equally, as insane and it should. Be remembered 1419 01:28:46,600 --> 01:28:49,439 Speaker 3: in all, OF this i am not saying that there 1420 01:28:49,479 --> 01:28:50,680 Speaker 3: aren't bad splits when you. 1421 01:28:50,760 --> 01:28:54,719 Speaker 2: CREATE content, I listen i have been in a place 1422 01:28:54,840 --> 01:28:57,680 Speaker 2: that for, eleven years no one has ever given me. 1423 01:28:57,720 --> 01:28:59,960 Speaker 2: A note i have no idea if that's gonna continue. 1424 01:29:00,120 --> 01:29:01,120 Speaker 3: OR not, i mean, VERY. 1425 01:29:01,080 --> 01:29:04,200 Speaker 2: Honestly i don't know what the. Future holds you never 1426 01:29:04,360 --> 01:29:10,479 Speaker 2: know until you KNOW it's i could be off the 1427 01:29:10,560 --> 01:29:12,720 Speaker 2: air in. A month i could be off the air in. 1428 01:29:12,760 --> 01:29:14,639 Speaker 2: AN hour i could be off the air in. TWENTY 1429 01:29:14,760 --> 01:29:15,200 Speaker 2: years i. 1430 01:29:15,280 --> 01:29:19,880 Speaker 3: DON'T know i do not own. THE network i. Don't Know. 1431 01:29:21,880 --> 01:29:25,400 Speaker 2: If colbert wants to go about making podcasts, and videos. 1432 01:29:25,479 --> 01:29:27,960 Speaker 2: He can he can, own that, control that and he 1433 01:29:28,040 --> 01:29:29,280 Speaker 2: could decide his. 1434 01:29:29,479 --> 01:29:30,240 Speaker 3: Future there. 1435 01:29:31,720 --> 01:29:34,240 Speaker 2: THE point i was making is there are, bad. Splits 1436 01:29:34,400 --> 01:29:36,400 Speaker 2: man there are people who've been fired who didn't. Deserve 1437 01:29:36,439 --> 01:29:37,360 Speaker 2: it there have been firings that have. 1438 01:29:37,479 --> 01:29:42,120 Speaker 3: Gone, south absolutely and you've seen. 1439 01:29:42,000 --> 01:29:45,960 Speaker 2: People set a blaze of the, prior, guy right the, 1440 01:29:46,040 --> 01:29:50,320 Speaker 2: prior company everything else. That happens very rarely does a 1441 01:29:50,360 --> 01:29:52,840 Speaker 2: company allow itself to be set on fire and then 1442 01:29:52,960 --> 01:29:54,799 Speaker 2: keep giving the guy more matches. 1443 01:29:54,840 --> 01:29:55,320 Speaker 3: To light. 1444 01:29:57,200 --> 01:30:01,120 Speaker 2: That's super rare and To be and If the colbert 1445 01:30:01,240 --> 01:30:03,400 Speaker 2: folk are going to, be, offended hey why'd you take 1446 01:30:03,479 --> 01:30:03,760 Speaker 2: us off the? 1447 01:30:03,800 --> 01:30:06,160 Speaker 3: Air early we had ten more months of calling your 1448 01:30:06,240 --> 01:30:08,000 Speaker 3: names to do like that's, just. 1449 01:30:08,080 --> 01:30:15,320 Speaker 2: Nutty Surreal so I'M saying i. EXPECT it i am 1450 01:30:15,720 --> 01:30:19,320 Speaker 2: SAYING that i Don't believe colbert, can LAST and i. 1451 01:30:19,439 --> 01:30:20,840 Speaker 3: Want it known that you see what's. 1452 01:30:20,880 --> 01:30:25,960 Speaker 2: Happening here this is exactly the reason He Killed, late 1453 01:30:26,080 --> 01:30:28,719 Speaker 2: night him and all the, progressive hosts and they. Don't 1454 01:30:28,760 --> 01:30:32,680 Speaker 2: care it was never about, the audience it was never 1455 01:30:32,760 --> 01:30:36,599 Speaker 2: about the laugh it was Never, about america it was never. 1456 01:30:36,640 --> 01:30:41,240 Speaker 2: About entertainment it was, about them their politics and. Their 1457 01:30:41,280 --> 01:30:47,440 Speaker 2: ego and if that's what it's, all about you. Cannot thrive. 1458 01:30:48,800 --> 01:30:51,920 Speaker 3: I'm glad, he's GONE and i JUST think cbs should 1459 01:30:51,920 --> 01:30:57,559 Speaker 3: pull the plug and end, this slow. Agonizing insanity also 1460 01:30:58,360 --> 01:31:01,920 Speaker 3: one point, Five million i'm ready, to go ready. To 1461 01:31:02,080 --> 01:31:04,320 Speaker 3: go This Is tony, KAX today. 1462 01:31:11,560 --> 01:31:15,880 Speaker 2: I must Disagree With, national REVIEW though i don't think 1463 01:31:16,280 --> 01:31:22,080 Speaker 2: they're saying that Nothing, About, Russia russia russia. IS insignificant 1464 01:31:22,680 --> 01:31:26,600 Speaker 2: i don't think they're saying that it, doesn't matter, BUT 1465 01:31:26,920 --> 01:31:30,559 Speaker 2: rather i think they're saying that what we are seeing 1466 01:31:31,160 --> 01:31:35,599 Speaker 2: from the releases From the Director Of National Intelligence tulsea 1467 01:31:35,680 --> 01:31:40,400 Speaker 2: gabbard isn't anything that we didn't. Already KNOW and i 1468 01:31:40,560 --> 01:31:43,479 Speaker 2: put forth to you that what we are seeing in 1469 01:31:43,680 --> 01:31:47,760 Speaker 2: these dumps is a solid reminder of the level of 1470 01:31:47,840 --> 01:31:51,240 Speaker 2: duplicitousness that, took place the lies and the fraud that, 1471 01:31:51,320 --> 01:31:55,000 Speaker 2: took place the willingness to subvert the duly elected president 1472 01:31:55,040 --> 01:31:58,120 Speaker 2: Of The, united states and by, doing so going after, 1473 01:31:58,280 --> 01:32:01,920 Speaker 2: the citizen that in and of itself is worthy of. 1474 01:32:02,080 --> 01:32:07,400 Speaker 2: Re examination, and yes for a lot, of people it 1475 01:32:07,640 --> 01:32:11,600 Speaker 2: is an eye opening look into the world of the 1476 01:32:11,680 --> 01:32:17,200 Speaker 2: progressive and some of the information is stuff that certainly wasn't. 1477 01:32:17,280 --> 01:32:20,519 Speaker 2: Really Known, Tony Katz tony, katz today good to be. 1478 01:32:20,640 --> 01:32:23,040 Speaker 3: With you they write. 1479 01:32:24,280 --> 01:32:28,280 Speaker 2: That the administration is so desperate to change the Subject 1480 01:32:28,320 --> 01:32:32,519 Speaker 2: Regarding jeffrey Epstein that Trump And tulsea gabbard are claiming 1481 01:32:32,560 --> 01:32:35,320 Speaker 2: That Former President barack obama led to treason his conspiracy 1482 01:32:35,400 --> 01:32:38,200 Speaker 2: by promoting the Fiction that trump Worked with russia to 1483 01:32:38,200 --> 01:32:42,360 Speaker 2: steal the twenty, sixteen election the fiction of Courses that 1484 01:32:42,520 --> 01:32:46,320 Speaker 2: trump Worked with russia to win in. Twenty sixteen that 1485 01:32:46,600 --> 01:32:50,919 Speaker 2: was never, the case and they admit that the underlying 1486 01:32:51,000 --> 01:32:53,160 Speaker 2: truth is. Serious enough trump was the victim of one 1487 01:32:53,200 --> 01:32:56,160 Speaker 2: of the most insidious dirty Tricks in american. Political History 1488 01:32:56,479 --> 01:33:00,080 Speaker 2: the clinton campaign used The bogus steele dossier to many 1489 01:33:00,120 --> 01:33:04,679 Speaker 2: Facture The trump russia. Collusion narrative obama administration officials picked. 1490 01:33:04,479 --> 01:33:05,320 Speaker 3: Up this story and ran. 1491 01:33:05,400 --> 01:33:09,120 Speaker 2: With it but if we are now saying looking at, 1492 01:33:09,320 --> 01:33:14,400 Speaker 2: stating clearly Look What JOHN brennan's cia, Director did look 1493 01:33:14,439 --> 01:33:16,920 Speaker 2: At What, james clapper Director Of national intelligence at that. 1494 01:33:16,960 --> 01:33:19,120 Speaker 2: Time did Look What, JAMES comey fbi director at that, 1495 01:33:19,200 --> 01:33:23,640 Speaker 2: Time did look At What president. Obama did this is 1496 01:33:23,720 --> 01:33:27,360 Speaker 2: more than just a. Dirty trick and in, THAT statement 1497 01:33:27,800 --> 01:33:29,640 Speaker 2: i think we are missing the. 1498 01:33:29,720 --> 01:33:30,040 Speaker 3: Bigger. 1499 01:33:30,160 --> 01:33:34,320 Speaker 2: STORY now i think it's easy in today's world to 1500 01:33:34,400 --> 01:33:37,599 Speaker 2: go after the national reviews of. The world oh they DON'T, 1501 01:33:37,680 --> 01:33:42,880 Speaker 2: like trumpo They're. Never trumpers oh they're. Just rhinos there 1502 01:33:42,920 --> 01:33:46,759 Speaker 2: are people all over the place writing in places where 1503 01:33:47,720 --> 01:33:49,599 Speaker 2: you could find a whole bunch of stuff you. Don't 1504 01:33:49,720 --> 01:33:52,360 Speaker 2: like doesn't mean that they're, bad reporters or they're, bad 1505 01:33:52,439 --> 01:33:56,439 Speaker 2: columnists or they have. Bad ideas there are people who just, 1506 01:33:56,520 --> 01:33:59,680 Speaker 2: simply Broke Like, david FRENCH who i used to read 1507 01:33:59,720 --> 01:34:01,280 Speaker 2: It Now, national review and then. 1508 01:34:01,280 --> 01:34:02,160 Speaker 3: He broke he just. 1509 01:34:02,280 --> 01:34:05,160 Speaker 2: Fell apart because the world Of never trump is not 1510 01:34:05,439 --> 01:34:10,400 Speaker 2: a world of. Intellectual theft It isn't it is a world. 1511 01:34:10,479 --> 01:34:15,040 Speaker 2: Of cheapness it's a world of. Being Debased never trump 1512 01:34:15,200 --> 01:34:15,360 Speaker 2: is not. 1513 01:34:15,479 --> 01:34:20,840 Speaker 3: A position it is irrational, emotional problem and the people 1514 01:34:20,880 --> 01:34:23,200 Speaker 3: who engage In never trump should rightfully. 1515 01:34:23,280 --> 01:34:27,439 Speaker 2: Be dismissed same thing can be said in a different 1516 01:34:27,520 --> 01:34:29,720 Speaker 2: measure for the people who Are all trump all. The 1517 01:34:29,800 --> 01:34:31,720 Speaker 2: time and if you are, not loyal, you're, somehow this 1518 01:34:31,880 --> 01:34:35,200 Speaker 2: that and. THE other i have no need in me 1519 01:34:35,360 --> 01:34:38,000 Speaker 2: to be loyal to. The president the president needs to 1520 01:34:38,000 --> 01:34:39,840 Speaker 2: be loyal to me and to. 1521 01:34:39,960 --> 01:34:40,000 Speaker 7: The. 1522 01:34:40,040 --> 01:34:42,360 Speaker 3: Constitution right that's how. 1523 01:34:42,400 --> 01:34:45,640 Speaker 2: It works the minute things, Go caddiewampus i'm allowed to 1524 01:34:45,720 --> 01:34:48,360 Speaker 2: vote for somebody ELSE if i have to be loyal 1525 01:34:48,400 --> 01:34:51,360 Speaker 2: to the guy that's cult, to personality that's not really 1526 01:34:51,640 --> 01:34:52,639 Speaker 2: focused in on being. 1527 01:34:52,680 --> 01:34:54,040 Speaker 3: A republic and you. 1528 01:34:54,040 --> 01:34:55,880 Speaker 2: Could say that about anybody you could say that about 1529 01:34:55,880 --> 01:34:56,799 Speaker 2: how people Were Regarding. 1530 01:34:56,840 --> 01:35:00,439 Speaker 3: Barack Obama, dear lord they, sang song they. 1531 01:35:00,320 --> 01:35:05,080 Speaker 2: Had kids doing chants, and dances and people pledging Themselves To. 1532 01:35:05,160 --> 01:35:09,880 Speaker 3: Barack obama, super weird. Super creepy it's not who, we 1533 01:35:10,000 --> 01:35:12,320 Speaker 3: are that's not how, we work it's not how. We act. 1534 01:35:13,720 --> 01:35:17,880 Speaker 2: Calling it an insidious dirty trick is simply. Not ENOUGH 1535 01:35:19,120 --> 01:35:24,080 Speaker 2: so i want to start there that the issue here, is, 1536 01:35:24,320 --> 01:35:28,080 Speaker 2: not oh Look What hillary. Clinton Did hillary clinton didn't 1537 01:35:28,160 --> 01:35:31,760 Speaker 2: engage a. Dirty trick she flat, out lied and a 1538 01:35:32,200 --> 01:35:35,040 Speaker 2: like minded media not only bought, into it but refused to. 1539 01:35:35,120 --> 01:35:37,479 Speaker 3: Investigate it that is more than. 1540 01:35:37,640 --> 01:35:42,800 Speaker 2: Dirty trick that is abuse of the citizenry as, a 1541 01:35:42,880 --> 01:35:45,160 Speaker 2: whole and that certainly should not. 1542 01:35:45,280 --> 01:35:48,479 Speaker 3: Be tolerated and no member of the press should be given. 1543 01:35:48,520 --> 01:35:52,320 Speaker 2: A pass and you should see how they move heaven 1544 01:35:52,360 --> 01:35:55,680 Speaker 2: and earth to try and make you forget about. These 1545 01:35:55,760 --> 01:36:00,240 Speaker 2: things This Was, jeff Zelenni chief national affairs CORRESPONDENT. For 1546 01:36:00,479 --> 01:36:05,840 Speaker 2: Cnn tulsy garbard was doing the press. Briefing, Yesterday right 1547 01:36:05,960 --> 01:36:09,400 Speaker 2: she's Introduced By. Caroline levin she's explaining all. This stuff check. 1548 01:36:09,520 --> 01:36:11,479 Speaker 2: This Out As tulsey garbard, is speaking we. 1549 01:36:11,560 --> 01:36:14,120 Speaker 5: Have NO idea, i mean this is hardly information that 1550 01:36:14,160 --> 01:36:14,720 Speaker 5: we should even. 1551 01:36:15,240 --> 01:36:19,280 Speaker 3: Be repeating never mind that it's, you know some. 1552 01:36:20,840 --> 01:36:23,000 Speaker 5: Some years after, the fact eight years more than that after, 1553 01:36:23,080 --> 01:36:23,599 Speaker 5: the fact. 1554 01:36:23,479 --> 01:36:25,920 Speaker 3: But also just to look at. The source, but look 1555 01:36:26,000 --> 01:36:28,320 Speaker 3: this is What This white. 1556 01:36:28,160 --> 01:36:31,880 Speaker 16: House wants to, talk About and i'm not sure that 1557 01:36:31,920 --> 01:36:33,280 Speaker 16: we should spend that much more time. 1558 01:36:33,320 --> 01:36:36,320 Speaker 2: On, It, FRANKLY yeah i mean we shouldn't spend more 1559 01:36:36,360 --> 01:36:39,720 Speaker 2: time on it because it's eight. Years ago it was 1560 01:36:39,760 --> 01:36:43,479 Speaker 2: Eight years we just RELEASED the mlk assassination files more 1561 01:36:43,520 --> 01:36:46,480 Speaker 2: than eight. Years ago people still WANT the jfk assassination 1562 01:36:46,600 --> 01:36:51,400 Speaker 2: files more than eight. Years ago, dear lord why do 1563 01:36:51,479 --> 01:36:53,599 Speaker 2: we have to keep talking? About slavery it was more 1564 01:36:53,680 --> 01:36:55,880 Speaker 2: than eight? Years ago do you see how? This works 1565 01:36:56,360 --> 01:36:57,559 Speaker 2: what a crazy thing. 1566 01:36:57,800 --> 01:36:58,519 Speaker 3: To say. 1567 01:37:00,000 --> 01:37:04,120 Speaker 2: There was beyond the duplicitousness that, Went on there was 1568 01:37:04,320 --> 01:37:10,920 Speaker 2: a collaboration to a fraud at the highest levels of. 1569 01:37:11,080 --> 01:37:15,519 Speaker 2: Our nation, of course we should be spending more time 1570 01:37:15,640 --> 01:37:18,439 Speaker 2: on it and focusing. On it we should be aware. 1571 01:37:18,479 --> 01:37:21,439 Speaker 2: Of it it should be a constant reminder that when 1572 01:37:21,600 --> 01:37:28,240 Speaker 2: you elect the, wrong people you will get the. Horrific 1573 01:37:28,400 --> 01:37:34,080 Speaker 2: result that's. The story look who you elect and look what. 1574 01:37:34,240 --> 01:37:34,959 Speaker 3: You get. 1575 01:37:36,760 --> 01:37:40,080 Speaker 2: How many more things will we See, From obama brennan 1576 01:37:40,240 --> 01:37:44,960 Speaker 2: Clap Or. Comy clinton that just makes, you say, my 1577 01:37:45,160 --> 01:37:46,240 Speaker 2: gosh what kind of people? 1578 01:37:46,280 --> 01:37:46,360 Speaker 5: Are? 1579 01:37:46,439 --> 01:37:48,719 Speaker 3: These well what about What About? Donald? 1580 01:37:48,760 --> 01:37:51,439 Speaker 2: Trump they, you know look at all everything, he said 1581 01:37:51,479 --> 01:37:53,880 Speaker 2: and then of course engage the lie that he was 1582 01:37:53,920 --> 01:37:56,280 Speaker 2: found guilty of rape that. Never happened it was actually 1583 01:37:56,600 --> 01:37:59,280 Speaker 2: specifically stated that it, wasn't so and that was a 1584 01:37:59,360 --> 01:38:02,920 Speaker 2: civil Trial With, adrian carroll not a. Criminal trial could 1585 01:38:03,000 --> 01:38:05,200 Speaker 2: we please have a little bit. Of, focus, oh look 1586 01:38:05,240 --> 01:38:08,560 Speaker 2: he was indicted on thirty. Four counts everybody knows it. 1587 01:38:08,720 --> 01:38:10,960 Speaker 2: Was Nonsense and. I'M waiting i don't know if this 1588 01:38:11,040 --> 01:38:13,400 Speaker 2: is happening after, he's present after the term. Is up 1589 01:38:13,680 --> 01:38:16,400 Speaker 2: when does this thing go to the appellate side and 1590 01:38:16,520 --> 01:38:20,080 Speaker 2: just get completely? Knocked out all of, these conversations all 1591 01:38:20,160 --> 01:38:20,920 Speaker 2: these indictments. 1592 01:38:21,000 --> 01:38:23,200 Speaker 3: GOING nowhere i, get it you hate. 1593 01:38:23,240 --> 01:38:26,880 Speaker 2: THE guy i get that you hate, the Guy and 1594 01:38:27,000 --> 01:38:28,599 Speaker 2: i'm here to tell YOU that i don't think, he's 1595 01:38:28,680 --> 01:38:31,680 Speaker 2: PERFECT and i think there's plenty about his personality that you, 1596 01:38:31,760 --> 01:38:33,639 Speaker 2: cannot like and there can be policy that you. Don't 1597 01:38:33,720 --> 01:38:37,120 Speaker 2: like you are entitled to disagree with me, about policy 1598 01:38:38,120 --> 01:38:43,920 Speaker 2: but it doesn't allow anyone the ability to look at what. It, Is, Obama, Brennan, 1599 01:38:44,120 --> 01:38:47,519 Speaker 2: komy Clapper and clinton did, AND say. 1600 01:38:48,840 --> 01:38:51,400 Speaker 3: I don't know why we're talking. About this this was eight. Years, 1601 01:38:51,439 --> 01:38:59,880 Speaker 3: ago nonsense nonsense Argument The Nash. 1602 01:39:00,160 --> 01:39:03,240 Speaker 2: National review going back, to, this right there are good 1603 01:39:03,280 --> 01:39:06,559 Speaker 2: people who. Write there you could actually find. A reporter 1604 01:39:06,720 --> 01:39:09,040 Speaker 2: i maybe you. Can't anymore but there was a time 1605 01:39:09,120 --> 01:39:11,200 Speaker 2: you could find a Reporter The New. York times. 1606 01:39:12,960 --> 01:39:13,000 Speaker 18: It. 1607 01:39:13,160 --> 01:39:15,640 Speaker 3: Did exist Even When The New york times was the 1608 01:39:15,680 --> 01:39:17,840 Speaker 3: hot mess that, it is you could still find. A 1609 01:39:17,920 --> 01:39:19,960 Speaker 3: reporter those days might be over. By Now. 1610 01:39:21,479 --> 01:39:25,800 Speaker 2: Following trump's stunning Victory Rights, National review obama directed as 1611 01:39:25,840 --> 01:39:29,040 Speaker 2: intelligence officials to hurriedly compose and publish an intelligence community 1612 01:39:29,040 --> 01:39:32,320 Speaker 2: assessment known AS an ica To highlight russian interference in. 1613 01:39:32,360 --> 01:39:36,400 Speaker 2: The election Obama And Vice president biden met with top 1614 01:39:36,520 --> 01:39:39,960 Speaker 2: national security Officials on, january fifth, twenty seventeen the day 1615 01:39:40,040 --> 01:39:43,200 Speaker 2: before they briefed The. Incoming trump the Meeting covered russian 1616 01:39:43,360 --> 01:39:48,439 Speaker 2: interference in, the election Contacts, Between trump trump's Transition Official, 1617 01:39:48,479 --> 01:39:52,160 Speaker 2: michael flynn And the, russian ambassador And the obama administrations 1618 01:39:52,200 --> 01:39:56,280 Speaker 2: withholding From the trump transition team of Intelligence. About, russia 1619 01:39:57,800 --> 01:40:01,479 Speaker 2: now while they may have tried shift responsibility over there 1620 01:40:01,520 --> 01:40:06,400 Speaker 2: In the obama Team, to komy This. Was obama the 1621 01:40:06,680 --> 01:40:09,320 Speaker 2: Point That national review wants to make is that all 1622 01:40:09,400 --> 01:40:12,080 Speaker 2: the above has been well known for. Eight years Even 1623 01:40:12,120 --> 01:40:15,519 Speaker 2: though gabbard presents it as a, Shocking revelation there's nothing 1624 01:40:15,600 --> 01:40:18,920 Speaker 2: New about obama's connection To The trump russia. COLLUSION farce 1625 01:40:21,040 --> 01:40:24,560 Speaker 2: i would put forth to you, The, following yes there is. 1626 01:40:26,640 --> 01:40:31,720 Speaker 2: In that people hear, it differently see, it differently digest. 1627 01:40:31,840 --> 01:40:36,200 Speaker 2: It differently and the reason and the worthiness of re 1628 01:40:36,400 --> 01:40:42,000 Speaker 2: engaging is that so much information fell on deaf ears 1629 01:40:42,360 --> 01:40:45,360 Speaker 2: because of a media that refused. 1630 01:40:44,840 --> 01:40:45,360 Speaker 3: To dig in. 1631 01:40:47,800 --> 01:40:47,840 Speaker 12: What. 1632 01:40:48,160 --> 01:40:51,040 Speaker 3: We know just THIS that i, read you. 1633 01:40:52,600 --> 01:41:01,040 Speaker 2: That's enough they, withheld information they. Manipulated information they spiked 1634 01:41:01,520 --> 01:41:06,040 Speaker 2: An Earlier Presidential daily brief because they didn't feel like 1635 01:41:06,200 --> 01:41:06,920 Speaker 2: it was giving them the. 1636 01:41:07,040 --> 01:41:09,080 Speaker 3: Right story and they wanted the Story of russian in. 1637 01:41:09,160 --> 01:41:11,000 Speaker 3: For intervention. 1638 01:41:13,840 --> 01:41:17,160 Speaker 2: They wanted. That story and that makes. This worthy, my 1639 01:41:17,400 --> 01:41:19,320 Speaker 2: gosh there are things people did. 1640 01:41:19,439 --> 01:41:19,800 Speaker 6: Not know. 1641 01:41:22,080 --> 01:41:25,120 Speaker 3: Let, them know don't, minimize it. 1642 01:41:26,120 --> 01:41:35,800 Speaker 2: Discuss it that what Happened with russia, is deserving deserving. Of, DISCUSSION. 1643 01:41:37,320 --> 01:41:41,360 Speaker 3: Now i think it is very acceptable for going about 1644 01:41:41,439 --> 01:41:44,719 Speaker 3: looking At The, mother report looking At The John Durham special. 1645 01:41:44,760 --> 01:41:47,160 Speaker 2: Council report he had a three hundred and six. Page 1646 01:41:47,200 --> 01:41:51,519 Speaker 2: Report the clinton campaign was, principally Responsible as nationaloby, writes 1647 01:41:51,560 --> 01:41:54,560 Speaker 2: it for fabricating, the story AND the fbi was recklessitly 1648 01:41:54,680 --> 01:41:58,800 Speaker 2: irresponsible in opening a full investigation Using the steele dossier 1649 01:41:59,760 --> 01:42:03,280 Speaker 2: in court without rutinary. Verification steps everything About the Steele Dosciate. 1650 01:42:03,360 --> 01:42:06,280 Speaker 2: Christopher steele they didn't trust the. Sub source they knew 1651 01:42:06,320 --> 01:42:08,800 Speaker 2: didn't trust the. Sub source but now you've got the 1652 01:42:08,880 --> 01:42:13,439 Speaker 2: documentation OF then Cia Director john, Brennan, saying, okay yeah 1653 01:42:13,520 --> 01:42:15,840 Speaker 2: we can't trust the. Sub source but this whole Story 1654 01:42:15,840 --> 01:42:18,599 Speaker 2: about Trump and russia and the hookers and, everything else 1655 01:42:18,760 --> 01:42:19,120 Speaker 2: doesn't it? 1656 01:42:19,240 --> 01:42:27,920 Speaker 3: Ring true that is enough. New information that is enough 1657 01:42:28,000 --> 01:42:30,080 Speaker 3: to make, you say, my god what kind of people? 1658 01:42:30,120 --> 01:42:32,240 Speaker 2: Are these and the ANSWER is i. Don't know but 1659 01:42:32,400 --> 01:42:36,040 Speaker 2: they Shore As. Helene americans they not. 1660 01:42:36,280 --> 01:42:40,920 Speaker 3: Like us they are not. Like us. 1661 01:42:42,720 --> 01:42:45,080 Speaker 2: Natural review rights it should be front of mind when 1662 01:42:45,160 --> 01:42:48,360 Speaker 2: partisans assess the official conduct of their. Political rivals we have, 1663 01:42:48,439 --> 01:42:51,880 Speaker 2: had enough more than enough lawfair and before concluding that 1664 01:42:52,000 --> 01:42:55,040 Speaker 2: turn about his, Fair play trump should consider that lawfair can, 1665 01:42:55,120 --> 01:42:58,400 Speaker 2: also backfire which helps explain why he is back In 1666 01:42:58,439 --> 01:42:59,120 Speaker 2: The white house in the. 1667 01:42:59,160 --> 01:43:02,559 Speaker 3: First, PLACE again i think they're missing. 1668 01:43:02,680 --> 01:43:08,240 Speaker 2: The point there is no argument to be made for 1669 01:43:08,400 --> 01:43:13,440 Speaker 2: the concepts, of Retribution And president trump has on repeated 1670 01:43:13,479 --> 01:43:16,040 Speaker 2: occasions refused the. 1671 01:43:16,160 --> 01:43:20,000 Speaker 3: Very concept of retribution lock. 1672 01:43:20,120 --> 01:43:22,720 Speaker 2: Her up he gets to the oval the, first time, 1673 01:43:22,840 --> 01:43:24,479 Speaker 2: he's like we're not going to lock, her up and 1674 01:43:24,720 --> 01:43:26,560 Speaker 2: just the other day said it was the. 1675 01:43:26,640 --> 01:43:27,800 Speaker 3: Right decision. 1676 01:43:29,200 --> 01:43:33,839 Speaker 2: In, multiple places, multiple turns, multiple opportunities he has been opposed. 1677 01:43:33,880 --> 01:43:38,840 Speaker 3: To retribution to the Anger, OF magaville. 1678 01:43:40,720 --> 01:43:44,280 Speaker 2: I put forth to you that looking at, the duplicitousness the, 1679 01:43:44,400 --> 01:43:49,200 Speaker 2: criminal activities the fraud they perpetrate On the, american citizen 1680 01:43:49,400 --> 01:43:53,880 Speaker 2: that is not a conversation of retribution that is necessary 1681 01:43:54,439 --> 01:44:00,599 Speaker 2: to ensure this doesn't. Happen again this camp, be allowed 1682 01:44:01,240 --> 01:44:03,040 Speaker 2: and you cannot allow people to get away. With it 1683 01:44:03,280 --> 01:44:06,639 Speaker 2: and this IS where i believe they are missing, the larger, 1684 01:44:07,000 --> 01:44:11,280 Speaker 2: greater CONVERSATION and i don't think we should. Miss it 1685 01:44:11,800 --> 01:44:14,360 Speaker 2: i'm not angry. WITH them i think they made. A 1686 01:44:14,479 --> 01:44:16,600 Speaker 2: case And all i'm Saying is i've heard what, you 1687 01:44:16,720 --> 01:44:18,240 Speaker 2: SAY and i disagree. 1688 01:44:18,240 --> 01:44:19,120 Speaker 3: With it it's okay. 1689 01:44:19,240 --> 01:44:23,479 Speaker 2: To disagree it's like the realization that people like myself 1690 01:44:23,560 --> 01:44:27,760 Speaker 2: and maybe like you Want the epstein, files released and 1691 01:44:27,880 --> 01:44:31,639 Speaker 2: yet there is zero Evidence that magavilla is Split From 1692 01:44:31,720 --> 01:44:32,240 Speaker 2: donald trump. 1693 01:44:32,680 --> 01:44:34,720 Speaker 3: On this they just want the. 1694 01:44:34,720 --> 01:44:37,439 Speaker 2: Stuff released but they're gonna Vote for Trump and trump's 1695 01:44:37,439 --> 01:44:40,080 Speaker 2: Stuff and trump, related people and they're glad they Voted 1696 01:44:40,080 --> 01:44:41,360 Speaker 2: for trump and they don't regret their vote. 1697 01:44:41,360 --> 01:44:45,120 Speaker 3: At all, that's right that's. The point. 1698 01:44:46,640 --> 01:44:48,759 Speaker 2: Maybe there's a larger point here that it is okay 1699 01:44:48,880 --> 01:44:51,560 Speaker 2: that we disagree about. Certain things let us be the 1700 01:44:51,600 --> 01:44:54,439 Speaker 2: people who, discuss it as opposed to the progressives who 1701 01:44:54,439 --> 01:44:55,439 Speaker 2: won't allow any level. 1702 01:44:55,439 --> 01:44:58,280 Speaker 3: Of disagreement it is all, about, attack, destroy, attack destroy 1703 01:44:58,360 --> 01:45:01,599 Speaker 3: and that negativity out the failure of connecting with people 1704 01:45:01,920 --> 01:45:03,800 Speaker 3: is why they can lose the next. 1705 01:45:03,880 --> 01:45:08,720 Speaker 2: Thirty elections let's go win them by honestly addressing the 1706 01:45:08,800 --> 01:45:12,080 Speaker 2: subjects in. The FACTS and i believe the subject here 1707 01:45:12,320 --> 01:45:15,439 Speaker 2: and the facts here say we should investigate and where 1708 01:45:15,560 --> 01:45:21,160 Speaker 2: necessary and, where appropriate prosecute Because, What, Obama, Comy, clapper 1709 01:45:21,360 --> 01:45:23,040 Speaker 2: Brennan and clinton did. 1710 01:45:24,439 --> 01:45:24,479 Speaker 7: Was. 1711 01:45:24,560 --> 01:45:29,000 Speaker 2: Simply wrong it can't be allowed in, a republic cannot 1712 01:45:29,000 --> 01:45:29,439 Speaker 2: be allowed IN. 1713 01:45:29,479 --> 01:45:30,559 Speaker 3: The Us I'm. 1714 01:45:30,640 --> 01:45:34,560 Speaker 16: Tony katz maybe you fight totalitarianism by talking about the 1715 01:45:34,680 --> 01:45:38,639 Speaker 16: real world consequences of Fascism and one of the real 1716 01:45:38,680 --> 01:45:42,040 Speaker 16: world consequences is, right now is that millions of people 1717 01:45:42,040 --> 01:45:43,840 Speaker 16: are about to lose their health care in order to 1718 01:45:43,880 --> 01:45:47,960 Speaker 16: pat the pockets of the. Super wealthy that's worth fighting 1719 01:45:48,000 --> 01:45:50,920 Speaker 16: over in. This, budget listen they did their. Reconciliation thing 1720 01:45:51,120 --> 01:45:53,840 Speaker 16: they stripped healthcare from seventeen, million people and the rules 1721 01:45:53,880 --> 01:45:56,080 Speaker 16: allowed them to do that with. Fifty votes now they 1722 01:45:56,160 --> 01:45:58,280 Speaker 16: have to pass a. Bipartisan budget the rules say they've 1723 01:45:58,280 --> 01:46:00,720 Speaker 16: got to do That with. Democratic votes so, it's not, 1724 01:46:01,320 --> 01:46:04,040 Speaker 16: you know unfair Play for democrats, to say you, know 1725 01:46:04,080 --> 01:46:06,960 Speaker 16: what if you want our votes, this fall then you 1726 01:46:07,160 --> 01:46:09,920 Speaker 16: have to blunt the rough edges of what you. Just 1727 01:46:10,080 --> 01:46:13,040 Speaker 16: did we want to make sure that this doesn't result 1728 01:46:13,120 --> 01:46:15,640 Speaker 16: in hundreds Of hostile can we just stop for. 1729 01:46:15,880 --> 01:46:19,840 Speaker 3: A Moment Senator, Chris murphy Democrat from connecticut has always been. 1730 01:46:19,880 --> 01:46:25,080 Speaker 3: A fool but if making, a vote engaging a Vote 1731 01:46:25,120 --> 01:46:29,400 Speaker 3: regarding Medicaid or medicare, is authoritarianism but. 1732 01:46:29,479 --> 01:46:31,760 Speaker 2: You also have to come back and get our votes for. 1733 01:46:31,880 --> 01:46:34,880 Speaker 2: A budget how is That authoritarianism. 1734 01:46:35,640 --> 01:46:35,800 Speaker 6: I'm. 1735 01:46:35,840 --> 01:46:39,560 Speaker 2: ASKING for i don't know every person who can listen and, be, 1736 01:46:39,720 --> 01:46:42,760 Speaker 2: like wait he doesn't make. No Sense Because Senator chris 1737 01:46:42,880 --> 01:46:47,120 Speaker 2: murphy doesn't make. Any sense just because you don't like 1738 01:46:47,320 --> 01:46:50,920 Speaker 2: a cut doesn't make. It authoritarian and if we now 1739 01:46:51,040 --> 01:46:53,160 Speaker 2: have to come back to you to get your votes 1740 01:46:53,479 --> 01:46:56,200 Speaker 2: and come to some level, of compromise then it's definitely. 1741 01:46:56,280 --> 01:47:00,280 Speaker 2: Not authoritarianism so what are you? Talking about the, answer 1742 01:47:00,400 --> 01:47:03,200 Speaker 2: is he doesn't care what he's. Talking about just say. 1743 01:47:03,320 --> 01:47:07,439 Speaker 2: The words that's their, entire methodology that's what they're. Based 1744 01:47:07,560 --> 01:47:12,000 Speaker 2: demands its demands foaming at, the mouth insanity as opposed to. 1745 01:47:12,160 --> 01:47:15,840 Speaker 2: Rational conversation AND what i am hoping is that what 1746 01:47:15,960 --> 01:47:20,080 Speaker 2: we saw in twenty twenty. Four continues america doesn't want 1747 01:47:20,120 --> 01:47:22,520 Speaker 2: foaming at. The mouth they want people. 1748 01:47:22,280 --> 01:47:25,160 Speaker 3: To talk and. Be rational. Be rational. 1749 01:47:25,720 --> 01:47:29,000 Speaker 2: That's it find Everything at tony kats. Dot, com tomorrow 1750 01:47:29,040 --> 01:47:29,920 Speaker 2: everyone take care