1 00:00:01,080 --> 00:00:04,000 Speaker 1: That seems right, you think, so, yeah, yeah, I don't 2 00:00:04,120 --> 00:00:05,760 Speaker 1: like you told me that. It didn't jump out of 3 00:00:05,800 --> 00:00:07,280 Speaker 1: me at all, Like I didn't think about it. But 4 00:00:07,320 --> 00:00:09,799 Speaker 1: once you told me, I said, yea, that because why 5 00:00:09,800 --> 00:00:12,680 Speaker 1: would you want to like, unless you're just an uber 6 00:00:12,720 --> 00:00:15,640 Speaker 1: engaged person, why would you want to continually follow a 7 00:00:15,640 --> 00:00:16,439 Speaker 1: cesspool of suck? 8 00:00:17,040 --> 00:00:18,880 Speaker 2: And it'll just bring your mood down, wouldn't it. 9 00:00:18,880 --> 00:00:20,760 Speaker 1: It is the Kennel and Casey John Rob, that's Casey. 10 00:00:20,840 --> 00:00:25,680 Speaker 3: You're listening to WIBC, WIBC HD one, Indianapolis. So Americans 11 00:00:26,040 --> 00:00:30,520 Speaker 3: are following the news less this according to Pew Research. 12 00:00:30,600 --> 00:00:33,519 Speaker 3: They say overall, thirty six percent of adults say they 13 00:00:33,560 --> 00:00:36,159 Speaker 3: follow the news all or most of the time. And 14 00:00:36,200 --> 00:00:39,559 Speaker 3: that is down from twenty sixteen where that number was 15 00:00:39,720 --> 00:00:42,839 Speaker 3: at fifty one percent. So that's a little bit of 16 00:00:42,840 --> 00:00:44,280 Speaker 3: a dip over the past nine years. 17 00:00:44,360 --> 00:00:45,680 Speaker 1: What's the update again the numbers? 18 00:00:45,800 --> 00:00:48,600 Speaker 3: It used to be fifty one percent in twenty sixteen 19 00:00:49,080 --> 00:00:51,680 Speaker 3: and now it is down to thirty six percent. 20 00:00:51,880 --> 00:00:55,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, And so I think that would be it's 21 00:00:55,840 --> 00:00:58,560 Speaker 1: like a TV show right when you're you know, there's 22 00:00:58,560 --> 00:01:00,400 Speaker 1: this great and that doesn't really happen in this way 23 00:01:00,440 --> 00:01:03,880 Speaker 1: anymore because of streaming and everything's so disconnected. But like 24 00:01:03,960 --> 00:01:07,400 Speaker 1: back in the day when there was a somewhat limited 25 00:01:07,760 --> 00:01:11,200 Speaker 1: way to consume, you know, entertainment in this country, there 26 00:01:11,200 --> 00:01:12,880 Speaker 1: were a lot of channels, but you basically had to 27 00:01:12,880 --> 00:01:14,640 Speaker 1: go in a pre streaming world, you had to go 28 00:01:14,720 --> 00:01:17,920 Speaker 1: to your cable provider network television to get whatever. And 29 00:01:17,959 --> 00:01:20,000 Speaker 1: you know, this news show would come out and it 30 00:01:20,040 --> 00:01:21,880 Speaker 1: would be the thing that everybody was talking about, and 31 00:01:21,920 --> 00:01:25,880 Speaker 1: everybody would be watching it, and you know, that would 32 00:01:25,880 --> 00:01:27,960 Speaker 1: go on. You know, there'd be cliffhangers, and then they 33 00:01:28,040 --> 00:01:29,680 Speaker 1: kind of come back for the next season, and then 34 00:01:30,000 --> 00:01:34,480 Speaker 1: after about season you know, three or four, you kind 35 00:01:34,520 --> 00:01:37,680 Speaker 1: of fall into a group of people that are into 36 00:01:37,680 --> 00:01:43,679 Speaker 1: the show, but the interest of the thing had worn off, 37 00:01:43,720 --> 00:01:46,080 Speaker 1: and then people kind of get exhausted or over the 38 00:01:46,160 --> 00:01:48,760 Speaker 1: characters or whatever. And that's sort of where we're at 39 00:01:48,760 --> 00:01:53,320 Speaker 1: in politics where Trump in twenty sixteen was interesting. It's like, 40 00:01:53,360 --> 00:01:55,480 Speaker 1: what would this guy actually look like as president? What 41 00:01:55,520 --> 00:01:57,760 Speaker 1: would our country? Same thing with Obama in two thousand 42 00:01:57,760 --> 00:02:00,280 Speaker 1: and eight. Okay, this guy's totally different, right, we haven't 43 00:02:00,440 --> 00:02:04,080 Speaker 1: seen this sort of thing before. And then after two 44 00:02:04,160 --> 00:02:06,000 Speaker 1: years of Obama, you're like, well, he's just kind of 45 00:02:06,040 --> 00:02:08,320 Speaker 1: a traditional liberal and he's running the country into the 46 00:02:08,320 --> 00:02:12,760 Speaker 1: ground the same way that other bad presidents have. And Okay, 47 00:02:12,800 --> 00:02:15,040 Speaker 1: the Republicans are going to put some guy who's as 48 00:02:15,440 --> 00:02:17,680 Speaker 1: exciting as paint up against him, Romney, I guess we'll 49 00:02:17,680 --> 00:02:20,400 Speaker 1: stay with the current ball suck versus the other option. 50 00:02:20,760 --> 00:02:25,160 Speaker 1: Same thing with Trump after year two, except Trump is exhausting. 51 00:02:25,720 --> 00:02:27,920 Speaker 1: People are like, well, the country isn't all that much different. 52 00:02:28,240 --> 00:02:30,959 Speaker 1: I mean, he's done, you know, some different policies. He's 53 00:02:31,000 --> 00:02:34,400 Speaker 1: a little but Trump's also always in your face and 54 00:02:34,440 --> 00:02:36,680 Speaker 1: you can't get away from it. It's one of the 55 00:02:36,720 --> 00:02:39,240 Speaker 1: reasons south park has gone so in on Trump. They 56 00:02:39,240 --> 00:02:42,360 Speaker 1: interviewed those guys, the south Stone and Parker about then 57 00:02:42,400 --> 00:02:45,280 Speaker 1: they said, look, we're not trying to treat Trump any 58 00:02:45,320 --> 00:02:48,239 Speaker 1: differently than we've treated other politicians. The problem is Trump 59 00:02:48,240 --> 00:02:51,239 Speaker 1: and his people have made politics a part of the 60 00:02:51,280 --> 00:02:52,160 Speaker 1: pop culture. Now. 61 00:02:52,200 --> 00:02:54,079 Speaker 2: They give them so much material, right. 62 00:02:54,000 --> 00:02:57,079 Speaker 1: They're always insisting in being in our face, So we're 63 00:02:57,080 --> 00:02:58,480 Speaker 1: going to give it to them, but we're going to 64 00:02:58,560 --> 00:03:01,119 Speaker 1: treat them the same way we'd all the other politicians. 65 00:03:01,200 --> 00:03:02,800 Speaker 1: They just want the smoke all the time because they 66 00:03:02,800 --> 00:03:05,000 Speaker 1: always insist in being out in front of people, and 67 00:03:05,120 --> 00:03:08,400 Speaker 1: everybody's mad with this and that whatever. But I just 68 00:03:08,440 --> 00:03:15,320 Speaker 1: think people are look by nature, people are not invested 69 00:03:15,360 --> 00:03:17,959 Speaker 1: in things, are not interested in let's face it, government, 70 00:03:18,000 --> 00:03:20,360 Speaker 1: while very important, is boring. You have to be willing 71 00:03:20,400 --> 00:03:23,160 Speaker 1: to sift through a lot of stuff and a lot 72 00:03:23,200 --> 00:03:25,560 Speaker 1: of stuff that isn't of interest to you at all 73 00:03:25,639 --> 00:03:27,640 Speaker 1: to get to those things. And people are just like, man, 74 00:03:27,680 --> 00:03:29,480 Speaker 1: I got other things to do. And then when you 75 00:03:29,560 --> 00:03:33,720 Speaker 1: factor in Trump kind of being old hat now not 76 00:03:33,919 --> 00:03:37,040 Speaker 1: all that interesting or different anymore and exhausting, people are 77 00:03:37,080 --> 00:03:38,000 Speaker 1: just like, well, thank you. 78 00:03:38,280 --> 00:03:38,480 Speaker 2: Yeah. 79 00:03:38,520 --> 00:03:41,280 Speaker 3: Well it's like it's the same old thing over and 80 00:03:41,360 --> 00:03:44,960 Speaker 3: over and over again. When they just continue to spend 81 00:03:45,000 --> 00:03:48,240 Speaker 3: money and it just keeps affecting your life, why would 82 00:03:48,240 --> 00:03:49,200 Speaker 3: you want to keep watching that? 83 00:03:49,240 --> 00:03:50,080 Speaker 2: It's depressing? 84 00:03:50,200 --> 00:03:52,720 Speaker 1: Well, remember last year, this must have been in the 85 00:03:52,760 --> 00:03:56,120 Speaker 1: spring of last year. We had a meeting with our 86 00:03:56,200 --> 00:04:02,040 Speaker 1: bosses about Trump, about and Biden, and we were talking 87 00:04:02,040 --> 00:04:05,320 Speaker 1: about like, how do we there's a little insider baseball, 88 00:04:05,360 --> 00:04:07,080 Speaker 1: But I think this is interesting when we do these 89 00:04:07,080 --> 00:04:10,720 Speaker 1: little easter eggs for people. We had a meeting, a 90 00:04:10,720 --> 00:04:14,560 Speaker 1: long meeting about Look, what we're seeing is that people 91 00:04:14,640 --> 00:04:16,960 Speaker 1: are tuning out when you're talking about Trump and Biden 92 00:04:17,000 --> 00:04:20,120 Speaker 1: because it's not interesting. They're seeing it as like two 93 00:04:20,240 --> 00:04:22,840 Speaker 1: old guys that they've already seen before, just kind of 94 00:04:22,920 --> 00:04:26,800 Speaker 1: running the same show over and over again. And we 95 00:04:26,839 --> 00:04:28,240 Speaker 1: got to figure out a way. It was a real 96 00:04:28,520 --> 00:04:31,119 Speaker 1: sort of point of interest of how do we cover 97 00:04:31,279 --> 00:04:33,479 Speaker 1: politics and government when the two guys aren't that interesting. 98 00:04:33,760 --> 00:04:37,520 Speaker 1: Then the assassination on Trump, attempt on Trump happened, and 99 00:04:37,600 --> 00:04:41,000 Speaker 1: everybody got super engaged again because that was so much different, Right, 100 00:04:41,440 --> 00:04:43,680 Speaker 1: what's gonna happen now? And Biden drops out and after 101 00:04:43,720 --> 00:04:46,479 Speaker 1: all those things, then it was like an explosion of interest, 102 00:04:46,520 --> 00:04:49,240 Speaker 1: but it wore off again. We got that, we saw that, 103 00:04:49,320 --> 00:04:51,240 Speaker 1: I mean, we see then, we know how people come 104 00:04:51,279 --> 00:04:54,559 Speaker 1: and go from when they're listening. We saw real peak 105 00:04:54,600 --> 00:04:58,800 Speaker 1: of interest through about what April, maybe maybe May, and 106 00:04:58,839 --> 00:05:00,880 Speaker 1: then people are just kind of like, well, it's just 107 00:05:00,920 --> 00:05:03,200 Speaker 1: the same thing again. I mean, the Doge thing was 108 00:05:03,279 --> 00:05:05,520 Speaker 1: kind of interesting. The fight with Elon Musk was interesting, 109 00:05:05,960 --> 00:05:09,279 Speaker 1: but now we're just back to big, unaccountable government as usual, 110 00:05:09,320 --> 00:05:13,080 Speaker 1: except Trump's always barking at us and they're like, well, thanks, Well, it's. 111 00:05:12,880 --> 00:05:15,640 Speaker 3: Not only that he's always barking, but it's just such 112 00:05:15,720 --> 00:05:18,640 Speaker 3: the rapid fire of things as well, and you have 113 00:05:18,720 --> 00:05:22,840 Speaker 3: to decipher through what is serious, what is real, what 114 00:05:22,960 --> 00:05:25,400 Speaker 3: is nonsense, what is hyperbole. 115 00:05:25,920 --> 00:05:30,520 Speaker 1: I think the other thing that has worn people out 116 00:05:30,760 --> 00:05:34,480 Speaker 1: is kind of what I call the imitator politicians, like 117 00:05:34,600 --> 00:05:37,960 Speaker 1: people that are trying to be Donald Trump. 118 00:05:37,760 --> 00:05:38,839 Speaker 2: The imposter syndrome. 119 00:05:39,160 --> 00:05:41,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, and I mean there are so many of these people. 120 00:05:41,360 --> 00:05:45,520 Speaker 1: I mean, we've got three of them, the two, three 121 00:05:45,560 --> 00:05:47,960 Speaker 1: and four in the state. Now, look, Braun is a 122 00:05:48,000 --> 00:05:51,560 Speaker 1: total ass, you know, kisser right of Trump. 123 00:05:51,960 --> 00:05:53,080 Speaker 2: Almost I. 124 00:05:55,279 --> 00:06:00,200 Speaker 1: Was, I was, I was close Rob Pensifine. But now look, 125 00:06:00,360 --> 00:06:02,440 Speaker 1: twenty five years in this business, never never I know 126 00:06:02,520 --> 00:06:04,960 Speaker 1: right where the line is. But Trump is not or 127 00:06:05,000 --> 00:06:06,880 Speaker 1: Braun is not Trump. He doesn't have the he doesn't 128 00:06:06,880 --> 00:06:07,920 Speaker 1: try to be Trump he does. 129 00:06:08,160 --> 00:06:10,200 Speaker 2: He's total he doesn't have the personality. He's not as 130 00:06:10,200 --> 00:06:11,440 Speaker 2: flamboyant no no, no. 131 00:06:11,440 --> 00:06:13,680 Speaker 1: So I mean he's totally like in bed with Trump. 132 00:06:13,720 --> 00:06:16,320 Speaker 1: But he doesn't he can't be Trump because he's again 133 00:06:16,440 --> 00:06:20,640 Speaker 1: just incredibly boring person. But are two, three and four 134 00:06:22,080 --> 00:06:27,480 Speaker 1: Micah Diego Rokeda on an almost daily basis, are trying 135 00:06:27,480 --> 00:06:31,120 Speaker 1: to do their best Donald Trump impersonation. They're not focused 136 00:06:31,120 --> 00:06:36,279 Speaker 1: on governance, they're not focused on making things better every 137 00:06:36,320 --> 00:06:39,159 Speaker 1: policy position they take in things they take on. See 138 00:06:39,160 --> 00:06:42,360 Speaker 1: this ridiculous immigration thing that cost who knows how much 139 00:06:42,560 --> 00:06:45,880 Speaker 1: to net twenty one people over an extended period of time. 140 00:06:46,480 --> 00:06:48,440 Speaker 2: Who you're talking about the voter fraud. 141 00:06:48,520 --> 00:06:50,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean we started our show with this today 142 00:06:50,000 --> 00:06:52,200 Speaker 1: if you if you missed it, about this report, and 143 00:06:52,200 --> 00:06:56,560 Speaker 1: they're touting it to some like great win for the country. 144 00:06:56,600 --> 00:06:58,200 Speaker 1: Where they spent who knows, They won't tell you how 145 00:06:58,279 --> 00:07:00,640 Speaker 1: much money they spent. Todd Roketa, the Turney General, and 146 00:07:00,680 --> 00:07:04,200 Speaker 1: Diego Morales, the Secretary of State in this trying to 147 00:07:04,240 --> 00:07:06,520 Speaker 1: purge these voter rolls or catch people in these voter 148 00:07:06,600 --> 00:07:09,120 Speaker 1: roles who are illegal immigrants voting in this country. And 149 00:07:09,120 --> 00:07:11,440 Speaker 1: they caught twenty one people out of what was the 150 00:07:11,480 --> 00:07:15,640 Speaker 1: number four point nine million eligible people. H they I mean, 151 00:07:15,840 --> 00:07:18,160 Speaker 1: that's not a rounding air. That's not an anomaly, it's 152 00:07:18,200 --> 00:07:21,960 Speaker 1: a it's a it's a speck of grain of sand 153 00:07:22,040 --> 00:07:25,440 Speaker 1: on the beach. And they're like, look at this because 154 00:07:25,480 --> 00:07:29,160 Speaker 1: they're trying to be one subservient to Trump, but also 155 00:07:29,280 --> 00:07:33,000 Speaker 1: they're trying to be Donald Trump and you like you 156 00:07:33,040 --> 00:07:35,080 Speaker 1: called it the impostor syndrome. Look at who the most 157 00:07:35,080 --> 00:07:37,320 Speaker 1: competent guy in that state House is. It's Daniel Elliott, 158 00:07:37,960 --> 00:07:41,760 Speaker 1: the treasure, the state treasure. And he doesn't get any headlines. 159 00:07:42,280 --> 00:07:44,120 Speaker 1: He also doesn't really want to be a politician. He 160 00:07:44,160 --> 00:07:45,840 Speaker 1: just goes about his business. He just does the job 161 00:07:45,880 --> 00:07:51,840 Speaker 1: of treasure in a fine competent fashion. But he doesn't 162 00:07:51,840 --> 00:07:54,240 Speaker 1: aspire to be a politician. So he's not trying to 163 00:07:54,280 --> 00:07:56,240 Speaker 1: be Donald Trump. But he also doesn't get any headlines. 164 00:07:56,280 --> 00:07:58,080 Speaker 2: He's not attention seeking, right. 165 00:07:58,200 --> 00:08:02,000 Speaker 1: These other guys, because they their whole existence as politics, 166 00:08:02,320 --> 00:08:06,840 Speaker 1: They like Rokeita and Diego, avoid real jobs, like the plague. 167 00:08:07,600 --> 00:08:10,520 Speaker 1: They always are picturing the next way to elevate themselves. 168 00:08:10,960 --> 00:08:13,200 Speaker 1: And thus, and look, it's all over the country, right, 169 00:08:13,560 --> 00:08:17,560 Speaker 1: it's the Boberts and the a and the Marjorie Taylor Greens, 170 00:08:17,600 --> 00:08:21,480 Speaker 1: and like all of these people see the next elevation 171 00:08:21,720 --> 00:08:24,920 Speaker 1: as being seen with or like or of Trump. And 172 00:08:24,960 --> 00:08:27,840 Speaker 1: I wonder once Trump's gone, right, because he does become 173 00:08:27,840 --> 00:08:28,360 Speaker 1: a lame. 174 00:08:28,280 --> 00:08:29,800 Speaker 2: Duc who will emulate. 175 00:08:29,640 --> 00:08:33,080 Speaker 1: Effective November of next year, do we finally get a 176 00:08:33,080 --> 00:08:35,960 Speaker 1: focus on competency in our government? Can we finally get 177 00:08:35,960 --> 00:08:38,479 Speaker 1: back to the nuts and bolts of here's the policies, 178 00:08:38,720 --> 00:08:42,760 Speaker 1: better policies, better results, get the personality out of the equation. 179 00:08:43,120 --> 00:08:47,080 Speaker 1: It's why the establishment and it's why Danny Lopez filed 180 00:08:47,080 --> 00:08:50,520 Speaker 1: that bill State rep. From Carmel to put the lieutenant 181 00:08:50,559 --> 00:08:54,800 Speaker 1: governor back under the or put it under the choice 182 00:08:54,840 --> 00:08:57,920 Speaker 1: of the governor him or herself the governor's candidate. And 183 00:08:57,960 --> 00:09:00,000 Speaker 1: they're going to try to do it with these other offices. 184 00:09:00,480 --> 00:09:04,760 Speaker 1: Because it used to be that the establishment had control 185 00:09:04,960 --> 00:09:07,600 Speaker 1: the structure of the conventions. The people who went were 186 00:09:07,600 --> 00:09:13,880 Speaker 1: more traditional Republicans. Well, especially over the past eight years, 187 00:09:14,520 --> 00:09:21,040 Speaker 1: more and more activist type people have gotten involved in 188 00:09:21,120 --> 00:09:26,240 Speaker 1: running for delegate. Well, they're driven by personality. They've clearly 189 00:09:26,240 --> 00:09:29,080 Speaker 1: shown that. Look at the people that keep electing, right, 190 00:09:29,520 --> 00:09:32,880 Speaker 1: they elect these people based on personality, not on their competence. 191 00:09:33,120 --> 00:09:37,120 Speaker 3: It's like Jim Merritt calls them the TikToker TikTok politicians. 192 00:09:37,440 --> 00:09:41,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, and look, I wanted Micah in there because look, 193 00:09:41,080 --> 00:09:42,680 Speaker 1: and Julian McGuire would have been no better for all 194 00:09:42,720 --> 00:09:45,560 Speaker 1: these people. Well you supported Micah. Yeah, and he's been 195 00:09:45,600 --> 00:09:47,920 Speaker 1: a colossal failure and he's a total fraud. So you 196 00:09:47,920 --> 00:09:49,319 Speaker 1: can put that on me, but it's not like you 197 00:09:49,320 --> 00:09:51,480 Speaker 1: would have had a different result in the policy if 198 00:09:51,559 --> 00:09:54,600 Speaker 1: Julie McGuire had been there. I'm disappointed in Micah because 199 00:09:54,600 --> 00:09:56,640 Speaker 1: he hasn't fought for us the way he was supposed to. 200 00:09:56,840 --> 00:09:59,079 Speaker 1: He hasn't been the thorn in Bronze side. He hasn't 201 00:09:59,080 --> 00:10:01,560 Speaker 1: been the rebel route because he got compromised so he 202 00:10:01,559 --> 00:10:03,600 Speaker 1: had to turn into a total ass kisser. But then 203 00:10:03,720 --> 00:10:05,599 Speaker 1: the results wouldn't have been any different. It wasn't like 204 00:10:05,640 --> 00:10:07,880 Speaker 1: bron would had a better property tax plan if Julie 205 00:10:07,920 --> 00:10:10,439 Speaker 1: McGuire been there. So by that center is no no harm, 206 00:10:10,480 --> 00:10:13,800 Speaker 1: no foul. But what these what did the politicians are 207 00:10:13,840 --> 00:10:16,120 Speaker 1: starting to realize is all of these guys are getting 208 00:10:16,160 --> 00:10:19,480 Speaker 1: elected not on their competency, not on their results. They're 209 00:10:19,480 --> 00:10:22,560 Speaker 1: getting elected based on personality. 210 00:10:22,240 --> 00:10:26,320 Speaker 2: And if they're influencers, yeah, versus so to governing. 211 00:10:26,440 --> 00:10:28,520 Speaker 1: Yeah. So to bring all this full circle, the average 212 00:10:28,520 --> 00:10:31,920 Speaker 1: person doesn't care about that, Like that's a hyper focused, 213 00:10:32,040 --> 00:10:37,000 Speaker 1: hyper small, very engaged group of people to the average person. 214 00:10:37,720 --> 00:10:39,960 Speaker 1: Look what that poll that came I remember Independent Indiana 215 00:10:40,240 --> 00:10:42,600 Speaker 1: amongst others, did these polls on Micah and Diego and 216 00:10:42,600 --> 00:10:43,760 Speaker 1: these guys, nobody knew who they. 217 00:10:43,720 --> 00:10:46,160 Speaker 2: Were, right because only seven percent. 218 00:10:45,920 --> 00:10:47,720 Speaker 1: And people who did couldn't stand them. But the people 219 00:10:47,720 --> 00:10:49,760 Speaker 1: who did, most people had no idea who they were 220 00:10:50,320 --> 00:10:52,079 Speaker 1: because they just they're like, no. 221 00:10:52,240 --> 00:10:54,280 Speaker 2: It doesn't mean anything to their daily lives. 222 00:10:54,720 --> 00:10:56,360 Speaker 1: You know, if you ask the average person who has 223 00:10:56,400 --> 00:10:59,160 Speaker 1: heard of Micah beck With right now, they would talk 224 00:10:59,200 --> 00:11:01,960 Speaker 1: about he is the I who There is an allegation 225 00:11:02,160 --> 00:11:04,200 Speaker 1: of AI porn being viewed in his office, and his 226 00:11:04,240 --> 00:11:06,600 Speaker 1: office is under investigation by grand jury for ghost employment. 227 00:11:06,760 --> 00:11:09,199 Speaker 1: That's what they know. That's it because that's in the headlines, 228 00:11:09,200 --> 00:11:12,200 Speaker 1: and that's interesting, right, Oh, that's different. But everything else 229 00:11:12,240 --> 00:11:15,480 Speaker 1: it's just like politics as usual. Diego. Nobody knows about 230 00:11:15,559 --> 00:11:18,679 Speaker 1: him because he does nothing of value. He does nothing 231 00:11:18,760 --> 00:11:21,640 Speaker 1: of value. There's nothing this guy has done or the 232 00:11:21,679 --> 00:11:24,320 Speaker 1: average version will go, man, my life is better because 233 00:11:24,360 --> 00:11:24,880 Speaker 1: he's there. 234 00:11:25,200 --> 00:11:28,400 Speaker 3: He checks on the businesses rob I pay for India 235 00:11:28,440 --> 00:11:32,240 Speaker 3: I pay. So the percentage of people who hardly ever 236 00:11:32,280 --> 00:11:34,880 Speaker 3: follow the news has pretty much remained steady. 237 00:11:34,920 --> 00:11:35,960 Speaker 2: It's at seven percent. 238 00:11:36,120 --> 00:11:39,080 Speaker 3: It used to be five percent, so it's ticked up 239 00:11:39,640 --> 00:11:40,480 Speaker 3: just a little bit. 240 00:11:40,559 --> 00:11:42,000 Speaker 1: They hardly, they don't watch. 241 00:11:41,800 --> 00:11:46,600 Speaker 3: Them hardly ever, and it's happening across all age groups. 242 00:11:47,040 --> 00:11:50,080 Speaker 3: Older adults sixty five plus they still follow the news 243 00:11:50,080 --> 00:11:53,439 Speaker 3: the most, sixty two percent of them say they follow it, 244 00:11:53,559 --> 00:11:57,640 Speaker 3: although that's down thirteen points from twenty sixteen, and people 245 00:11:57,679 --> 00:12:00,880 Speaker 3: who are under thirty follow the news the least, with 246 00:12:00,960 --> 00:12:04,160 Speaker 3: only fifteen percent of them saying that they follow. 247 00:12:04,360 --> 00:12:07,360 Speaker 1: Okay, be honest with our audience here all right, now, 248 00:12:07,360 --> 00:12:09,160 Speaker 1: I get that you watch it all the time. Now 249 00:12:09,160 --> 00:12:12,200 Speaker 1: that's your job, right, You're you're that's that's what you do. 250 00:12:12,240 --> 00:12:13,760 Speaker 1: I have no idea what we're talking about every day. 251 00:12:13,800 --> 00:12:16,080 Speaker 1: You your job is to put all the stuff together 252 00:12:16,480 --> 00:12:18,040 Speaker 1: two seconds before we go back out to say what 253 00:12:18,040 --> 00:12:20,959 Speaker 1: are we talking about? And talent just carries me the 254 00:12:21,000 --> 00:12:24,040 Speaker 1: rest of the way. But before you worked here, and 255 00:12:24,120 --> 00:12:26,839 Speaker 1: cause I think you're sort of a pretty good example, right, 256 00:12:26,840 --> 00:12:29,840 Speaker 1: Like you're a voter, you're a good parent, you're working, 257 00:12:29,960 --> 00:12:34,400 Speaker 1: You're like, how much did you actually like less? 258 00:12:34,480 --> 00:12:35,720 Speaker 2: How much did I follow the news? 259 00:12:36,280 --> 00:12:38,280 Speaker 1: How engaged were you back then? 260 00:12:38,520 --> 00:12:40,320 Speaker 3: Well, I mean you have to keep in mind I 261 00:12:40,400 --> 00:12:44,079 Speaker 3: was in a newsroom, so I mean it was somewhat engaged. 262 00:12:44,120 --> 00:12:45,400 Speaker 2: I worked at a TV station. 263 00:12:45,480 --> 00:12:47,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, But when you were when you were a when 264 00:12:47,440 --> 00:12:49,200 Speaker 1: you were a jock or running the radio station. 265 00:12:51,000 --> 00:12:53,040 Speaker 2: National news much more yeah than local. 266 00:12:53,200 --> 00:12:57,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I like, I don't Before I got involved, 267 00:12:57,160 --> 00:13:00,480 Speaker 1: I don't ever remember knowing anything about well, I mean, 268 00:13:00,480 --> 00:13:03,800 Speaker 1: I'm talking into my early twenties having any sort of 269 00:13:05,240 --> 00:13:07,960 Speaker 1: understanding of how anything local worked or even who most 270 00:13:08,000 --> 00:13:08,960 Speaker 1: of the state people were. 271 00:13:09,120 --> 00:13:11,640 Speaker 2: Right. Yeah, that's the same. 272 00:13:11,800 --> 00:13:12,640 Speaker 1: Yeah. 273 00:13:12,920 --> 00:13:16,439 Speaker 3: I can remember when I was younger and all the 274 00:13:17,120 --> 00:13:19,680 Speaker 3: Oliver North and Ronald Reagan's story, I would. 275 00:13:21,520 --> 00:13:23,360 Speaker 2: And want to turn off the TV. Yeah, because it 276 00:13:23,400 --> 00:13:28,680 Speaker 2: wasn't interested. But in regards to the political differences with 277 00:13:29,040 --> 00:13:32,640 Speaker 2: watching the news, Republicans actually show the largest drop. 278 00:13:33,559 --> 00:13:36,439 Speaker 3: They used to be at fifty seven percent would watch 279 00:13:36,480 --> 00:13:40,240 Speaker 3: the news closely in twenty sixteen, it's now at thirty 280 00:13:40,280 --> 00:13:43,880 Speaker 3: six percent, so it's down twenty one points with Republicans 281 00:13:43,960 --> 00:13:48,160 Speaker 3: and Republicans trust in national and local news has fallen 282 00:13:48,480 --> 00:13:49,520 Speaker 3: more than Democrats. 283 00:13:49,520 --> 00:13:51,880 Speaker 1: What's the Democrat engagement in the news. 284 00:13:53,240 --> 00:13:55,840 Speaker 3: It used to be a forty nine percent, it's now 285 00:13:55,880 --> 00:13:57,280 Speaker 3: down to thirty nine percent. 286 00:13:57,600 --> 00:13:59,960 Speaker 1: Okay, so they have dropped as well, but not by 287 00:14:00,040 --> 00:14:00,520 Speaker 1: as much. 288 00:14:00,559 --> 00:14:05,160 Speaker 3: And thirty nine percent for Democrats thirty six for Republicans, 289 00:14:05,200 --> 00:14:09,520 Speaker 3: So it's down it's down less, but they're still engaging 290 00:14:09,559 --> 00:14:10,960 Speaker 3: more than Republicans. 291 00:14:11,000 --> 00:14:13,360 Speaker 1: Okay, to watching, Let's take a break because I have 292 00:14:13,440 --> 00:14:15,840 Speaker 1: a very important question off of that for you that 293 00:14:15,880 --> 00:14:19,600 Speaker 1: I think would really resonate with our audience, and I 294 00:14:19,640 --> 00:14:21,720 Speaker 1: think it would apply to people that are hearing us 295 00:14:21,760 --> 00:14:23,080 Speaker 1: right now. So let's take a break and I will 296 00:14:23,120 --> 00:14:25,040 Speaker 1: ask you this question. I'm not going to tell you 297 00:14:25,080 --> 00:14:26,560 Speaker 1: what it is during the break, and I want to 298 00:14:26,600 --> 00:14:28,600 Speaker 1: see what your gut answer is. 299 00:14:28,760 --> 00:14:32,240 Speaker 2: Okay, it's Kennell and Casey. It's ninety three WYBC. 300 00:14:42,200 --> 00:14:45,440 Speaker 1: We can't We're never going back, are we. I was 301 00:14:45,440 --> 00:14:47,800 Speaker 1: pondering this in our last segment. It's Kennelly, Casey, John 302 00:14:47,840 --> 00:14:50,400 Speaker 1: Rob that's Casey. So Casey pulled up this very interesting 303 00:14:50,400 --> 00:14:54,720 Speaker 1: story about how few people are engaged in the news anymore. 304 00:14:55,480 --> 00:14:59,600 Speaker 1: And you know, one of the reasons Rush Limbaugh was 305 00:14:59,640 --> 00:15:02,720 Speaker 1: so popular for so many years, especially in the late 306 00:15:02,760 --> 00:15:06,600 Speaker 1: eighties and well into the nineties, was because he was 307 00:15:06,640 --> 00:15:10,280 Speaker 1: so much different than what anybody could get anywhere else. Right, Obviously, 308 00:15:10,280 --> 00:15:13,320 Speaker 1: he was the greatest broadcaster whoever lived. He was phenomenally talented. 309 00:15:14,080 --> 00:15:16,480 Speaker 1: Listening to rushing inball read an ad was more entertaining 310 00:15:16,520 --> 00:15:19,200 Speaker 1: than listening to anybody else to a show. But he 311 00:15:19,320 --> 00:15:21,760 Speaker 1: was also there at a time where nobody else was there. 312 00:15:21,840 --> 00:15:24,080 Speaker 1: He was sort of first right in a weird way, 313 00:15:24,320 --> 00:15:26,640 Speaker 1: totally different type of broadcaster, but the same way Stern 314 00:15:26,720 --> 00:15:30,040 Speaker 1: was first. Now Rush was great, Stern was just first right, 315 00:15:30,440 --> 00:15:33,920 Speaker 1: and everybody sort of emulated Stern afterwards, and Stern has 316 00:15:34,040 --> 00:15:36,440 Speaker 1: largely become irrelevant because it's old hat. Everybody else can 317 00:15:36,480 --> 00:15:41,520 Speaker 1: do it. But I say all of this because competition 318 00:15:41,640 --> 00:15:47,160 Speaker 1: is good. Differences are good. Being exposed to different things 319 00:15:47,200 --> 00:15:50,760 Speaker 1: are good. And you should read people you disagree with. 320 00:15:50,840 --> 00:15:53,240 Speaker 1: I try every single day to read a whole lot 321 00:15:53,240 --> 00:15:56,720 Speaker 1: of people that I disagree with, because it sharpens my 322 00:15:57,320 --> 00:15:59,760 Speaker 1: I debate with myself, it sharpens my opinions on things. 323 00:16:00,000 --> 00:16:02,480 Speaker 1: It makes me usually ends up making me more wed 324 00:16:02,960 --> 00:16:05,680 Speaker 1: to what I had before, but I forced myself into 325 00:16:06,200 --> 00:16:09,200 Speaker 1: those things, and sometimes I end up actually changing my mind. 326 00:16:09,240 --> 00:16:11,360 Speaker 1: But the point of what I'm saying of that is 327 00:16:12,280 --> 00:16:15,360 Speaker 1: difference is good in a limited scope. But when you 328 00:16:15,440 --> 00:16:20,760 Speaker 1: have unlimited opportunity, you it's you can so easily find 329 00:16:20,840 --> 00:16:25,920 Speaker 1: the thing not that challenges you, not that makes you better, 330 00:16:26,640 --> 00:16:29,680 Speaker 1: but is the easy way, which is just simply reinforces 331 00:16:30,000 --> 00:16:33,240 Speaker 1: whatever you want. Right, So in the in the world 332 00:16:33,320 --> 00:16:37,520 Speaker 1: we're in now, where there's podcasting, you know, the video blogs, 333 00:16:37,560 --> 00:16:42,240 Speaker 1: subscription services, you know, we're still here, but there's just 334 00:16:42,360 --> 00:16:46,200 Speaker 1: so much you don't have to be challenged anymore, and 335 00:16:46,240 --> 00:16:48,920 Speaker 1: most people are not going to challenge themselves, and so 336 00:16:49,000 --> 00:16:52,080 Speaker 1: we're not going to bring back the independent thought. Like 337 00:16:52,120 --> 00:16:54,320 Speaker 1: I don't see how we bring back independent thought anymore 338 00:16:54,640 --> 00:17:00,240 Speaker 1: if people are just being hyper radicalized one way or another. 339 00:17:00,120 --> 00:17:00,280 Speaker 3: Or. 340 00:17:01,920 --> 00:17:03,720 Speaker 1: Because it's the easy way to do it. Yeah, I 341 00:17:03,720 --> 00:17:07,040 Speaker 1: agree with that versus man, I hate that guy or 342 00:17:07,080 --> 00:17:09,680 Speaker 1: I hate that person, but I'm gonna listen to it. 343 00:17:10,080 --> 00:17:12,560 Speaker 1: And even if I end up disagreeing with what they say, 344 00:17:12,640 --> 00:17:15,000 Speaker 1: it's gonna force me to be better at what I think. 345 00:17:15,240 --> 00:17:16,879 Speaker 3: I think we get a lot of people who listen 346 00:17:16,920 --> 00:17:20,040 Speaker 3: to you even though they don't agree with everything you say. 347 00:17:21,440 --> 00:17:24,920 Speaker 1: But how how long they definitely. 348 00:17:24,640 --> 00:17:27,080 Speaker 2: Don't agree with your delivery? 349 00:17:27,320 --> 00:17:29,960 Speaker 1: Yeah? Right, right, But and I get that we do 350 00:17:30,440 --> 00:17:32,280 Speaker 1: very well. And God bless every person, whether you listen 351 00:17:32,280 --> 00:17:35,040 Speaker 1: because you like me or hate me, or everybody likes Casey. 352 00:17:35,040 --> 00:17:37,639 Speaker 1: There's nobody who doesn't like Casey. But my point is, 353 00:17:38,080 --> 00:17:41,760 Speaker 1: in the ski we're a Indianapolis based radio show. Right, 354 00:17:41,800 --> 00:17:43,920 Speaker 1: we have our and it's a big corner, right, twenty 355 00:17:43,920 --> 00:17:46,280 Speaker 1: five counties or whatever we cover and we're the voice 356 00:17:46,320 --> 00:17:48,800 Speaker 1: of the city. And that's wonderful. But I'm talking if 357 00:17:48,800 --> 00:17:53,000 Speaker 1: you extrapolate this across the country. Right, so many people 358 00:17:53,840 --> 00:17:58,000 Speaker 1: are just looking for the thing that they agree with, 359 00:17:58,119 --> 00:18:01,840 Speaker 1: and once you found that, you can isolate yourself. Right, 360 00:18:01,880 --> 00:18:04,000 Speaker 1: it's like the equivalent of not leaving your house anymore, 361 00:18:04,160 --> 00:18:07,080 Speaker 1: not seeing the world outside, just your little corner, your 362 00:18:07,119 --> 00:18:09,879 Speaker 1: little world is all that exists. And so how do 363 00:18:09,960 --> 00:18:14,720 Speaker 1: we get robust debate to get better policy anymore? How 364 00:18:14,720 --> 00:18:19,680 Speaker 1: do we get conversations that can genuinely change minds or 365 00:18:19,840 --> 00:18:22,480 Speaker 1: mold people into being independent thinkers so that when a 366 00:18:22,520 --> 00:18:25,359 Speaker 1: topic comes up, they'll come to the right conclusion, not 367 00:18:25,400 --> 00:18:32,119 Speaker 1: the one they're just instinctively, you know, back instinctively drawn to. 368 00:18:32,840 --> 00:18:35,200 Speaker 1: I just I don't know if we can ever do 369 00:18:35,280 --> 00:18:36,040 Speaker 1: that anymore. 370 00:18:36,160 --> 00:18:40,920 Speaker 3: Well, like you said earlier, people will be offended if 371 00:18:40,920 --> 00:18:43,040 Speaker 3: you're going against who they're cheerleading for. 372 00:18:43,359 --> 00:18:44,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, they don't want to hear it. 373 00:18:44,880 --> 00:18:47,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, Like I remember in college, it took a history 374 00:18:47,920 --> 00:18:52,040 Speaker 1: of Television class and that was like a four hundred 375 00:18:52,119 --> 00:18:54,960 Speaker 1: level course in the general Studies program. You're looking at 376 00:18:55,000 --> 00:18:58,320 Speaker 1: me like, oh, you poor guy. That totally explains a lot, right. 377 00:18:58,840 --> 00:19:00,919 Speaker 1: And in my History of televis class, I had a 378 00:19:01,119 --> 00:19:04,000 Speaker 1: super liberal teacher. I had actually had her for another class, 379 00:19:04,640 --> 00:19:07,600 Speaker 1: and she was super liberal, but she was very fair. 380 00:19:08,040 --> 00:19:10,960 Speaker 1: She was very fair in her grading, the way she 381 00:19:11,040 --> 00:19:15,000 Speaker 1: handled things, and we would like fight, like you know, 382 00:19:15,480 --> 00:19:18,440 Speaker 1: debate every single day. And she told me at one point, 383 00:19:18,480 --> 00:19:25,159 Speaker 1: she said, never be never be afraid to speak up. No, 384 00:19:25,240 --> 00:19:27,200 Speaker 1: this was way before I was involved in politics or anything, 385 00:19:27,200 --> 00:19:28,920 Speaker 1: but I had my world views, right. I didn't quite 386 00:19:29,200 --> 00:19:30,720 Speaker 1: articulate them the way I do now, but I knew 387 00:19:30,760 --> 00:19:33,720 Speaker 1: the things I felt. And she told me, she said, 388 00:19:33,720 --> 00:19:35,160 Speaker 1: never be afraid to speak out. I think I'm going 389 00:19:35,160 --> 00:19:37,360 Speaker 1: to punish you because and she said, in fact, I'm 390 00:19:37,400 --> 00:19:41,840 Speaker 1: rewarding you for this, because you are showing these kids 391 00:19:42,640 --> 00:19:45,200 Speaker 1: the way it should be, like you should be able 392 00:19:45,240 --> 00:19:46,639 Speaker 1: to speak your mind and I should be able to 393 00:19:46,640 --> 00:19:49,040 Speaker 1: speak my mind, and the way we do it, it's 394 00:19:49,080 --> 00:19:51,439 Speaker 1: going to make them better students. So you're going to 395 00:19:51,520 --> 00:19:53,399 Speaker 1: ultimately be And I got an A plus in the class, 396 00:19:53,400 --> 00:19:55,800 Speaker 1: but like, how could you fail History of Television? 397 00:19:55,840 --> 00:19:55,919 Speaker 3: Right? 398 00:19:55,960 --> 00:19:57,679 Speaker 1: How could you screw that up? But the point my 399 00:19:57,720 --> 00:20:01,320 Speaker 1: final paper was on alf but you you But my 400 00:20:01,359 --> 00:20:03,480 Speaker 1: point is like we need more of that. 401 00:20:03,960 --> 00:20:06,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, but we're not. You're right, we're never turning back 402 00:20:06,280 --> 00:20:11,160 Speaker 3: to that. At least we're trying. But the veil has 403 00:20:11,200 --> 00:20:11,800 Speaker 3: been lifted. 404 00:20:12,280 --> 00:20:14,640 Speaker 2: And now you can't do that because you. 405 00:20:14,640 --> 00:20:18,600 Speaker 3: Have activist professors who will grade against you if they 406 00:20:18,600 --> 00:20:21,440 Speaker 3: don't agree with your ideas. So students who are paying 407 00:20:21,440 --> 00:20:26,800 Speaker 3: money at colleges where you're supposed to debate ideas, they're 408 00:20:26,800 --> 00:20:28,399 Speaker 3: not going to risk getting a bad. 409 00:20:28,200 --> 00:20:30,920 Speaker 2: Grade to anger their teacher. 410 00:20:32,720 --> 00:20:35,000 Speaker 3: But they're gonna you're right, they're going to write a 411 00:20:35,000 --> 00:20:38,480 Speaker 3: paper knowing what the teacher thinks so that they get 412 00:20:38,480 --> 00:20:39,280 Speaker 3: the good grade. 413 00:20:39,640 --> 00:20:43,159 Speaker 1: Yeah, but we also have it. It's it's outside of 414 00:20:43,160 --> 00:20:46,000 Speaker 1: the classroom too, right, it's it's in our business. Think 415 00:20:46,040 --> 00:20:48,240 Speaker 1: about you know people all the time, Like you have 416 00:20:48,280 --> 00:20:50,280 Speaker 1: so many Democrats on your show, Yeah, because it's kind 417 00:20:50,280 --> 00:20:52,199 Speaker 1: of interesting to hear what they have to say. Like 418 00:20:52,240 --> 00:20:54,919 Speaker 1: we're adults, we can hear people we disagree with, and you, 419 00:20:55,040 --> 00:20:56,720 Speaker 1: we believe in you that you can hear people you 420 00:20:56,760 --> 00:20:59,840 Speaker 1: disagree with. And it's a different point of view, Like 421 00:21:00,200 --> 00:21:01,480 Speaker 1: how entertaining at this point. 422 00:21:01,400 --> 00:21:03,160 Speaker 2: Is it is you're the same message over and over 423 00:21:03,200 --> 00:21:03,840 Speaker 2: and over again. 424 00:21:03,920 --> 00:21:06,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, Todd Young, Duke of Spendingberg. Hey, did we ever 425 00:21:06,960 --> 00:21:09,480 Speaker 1: get it a definitive if that was Fidel Castro and 426 00:21:09,520 --> 00:21:11,960 Speaker 1: there was no denying it? Right? I believe it is 427 00:21:12,160 --> 00:21:14,320 Speaker 1: so Todd Young. We're now willing to say we think 428 00:21:14,359 --> 00:21:17,359 Speaker 1: Todd Young posed it for a picture in front of 429 00:21:17,400 --> 00:21:19,119 Speaker 1: Fidel Castro, a painting a Fidel Castro. 430 00:21:19,200 --> 00:21:22,439 Speaker 2: Yeah. I don't know for sure, but there was. 431 00:21:22,440 --> 00:21:24,120 Speaker 1: No I mean like that would have been major news 432 00:21:24,119 --> 00:21:26,800 Speaker 1: had they come out and liked some swift denial or something. Right, 433 00:21:27,359 --> 00:21:29,320 Speaker 1: for those of you who missed this, this was an 434 00:21:29,320 --> 00:21:34,399 Speaker 1: incredible story. Todd Young, the senator from Indiana, a Republican, 435 00:21:34,680 --> 00:21:38,240 Speaker 1: went to this Harrison County Economic Development Group thing and 436 00:21:38,280 --> 00:21:41,320 Speaker 1: they all posed for a picture afterwards, and the picture 437 00:21:41,320 --> 00:21:45,200 Speaker 1: appeared to be this giant picture behind them of Fidel Castro, 438 00:21:45,920 --> 00:21:48,040 Speaker 1: and everyone's like, there must be something wrong here, this 439 00:21:48,280 --> 00:21:51,880 Speaker 1: is AI or it's been photoshopped or something, and there's 440 00:21:51,920 --> 00:21:52,560 Speaker 1: been no denial. 441 00:21:53,119 --> 00:21:55,200 Speaker 2: I think Kevin brought up a really good point yesterday 442 00:21:55,240 --> 00:21:55,639 Speaker 2: about that. 443 00:21:55,640 --> 00:21:59,800 Speaker 3: Though. There must have been somebody Young in his communications 444 00:22:00,240 --> 00:22:02,919 Speaker 3: staff who didn't know who the painting was. 445 00:22:03,640 --> 00:22:05,199 Speaker 1: But the point is, when you have Todd Jung on, 446 00:22:05,240 --> 00:22:07,720 Speaker 1: it's the same, like there's nothing new you're going to 447 00:22:07,760 --> 00:22:09,680 Speaker 1: hear from him. There's nothing different. Now. He may talk 448 00:22:09,680 --> 00:22:11,920 Speaker 1: about a topic that's of interest to you and that's okay. 449 00:22:11,960 --> 00:22:13,359 Speaker 1: People have him on and they talk to him, and 450 00:22:13,359 --> 00:22:15,720 Speaker 1: that's fine, But I'm saying, there's nothing about that that's 451 00:22:15,720 --> 00:22:19,399 Speaker 1: going to expand a horizon. When you have these democrats on, 452 00:22:20,400 --> 00:22:22,920 Speaker 1: they're interesting to hear them talk because we don't hear 453 00:22:22,960 --> 00:22:24,600 Speaker 1: that point of view a lot and a lot of 454 00:22:24,600 --> 00:22:27,359 Speaker 1: times it's insanity. But sometimes they make some ones and 455 00:22:27,400 --> 00:22:30,120 Speaker 1: you're like, Okay, maybe we should be doing that, Maybe 456 00:22:30,200 --> 00:22:31,800 Speaker 1: that is a better way to look at things. And 457 00:22:31,840 --> 00:22:36,280 Speaker 1: I just until we get back to that, we're we're 458 00:22:36,400 --> 00:22:40,959 Speaker 1: just gonna keep getting more and more hyperpartisan, and the 459 00:22:41,000 --> 00:22:43,720 Speaker 1: policy and the ideas that are gonna be best for 460 00:22:43,800 --> 00:22:46,480 Speaker 1: the country and our states and our communities are going 461 00:22:46,480 --> 00:22:47,600 Speaker 1: to totally get left behind. 462 00:22:47,880 --> 00:22:50,280 Speaker 3: Well, going back to this Pew Research study that says 463 00:22:50,320 --> 00:22:55,040 Speaker 3: Americans are following the news less, they said that they're 464 00:22:55,440 --> 00:22:58,760 Speaker 3: getting it passively now, they're not actively looking for it, 465 00:22:59,600 --> 00:23:02,480 Speaker 3: and fifty four percent said they mostly. 466 00:23:02,160 --> 00:23:05,359 Speaker 2: See political news because they stumble across it online. 467 00:23:05,560 --> 00:23:09,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, and there's less people that are out there actively 468 00:23:09,359 --> 00:23:12,600 Speaker 3: looking for it, so you're still consuming it. 469 00:23:12,600 --> 00:23:15,520 Speaker 2: It's just accidental. Yeah, you're not seeking it out. 470 00:23:15,880 --> 00:23:16,800 Speaker 1: All right, just take a break. 471 00:23:16,880 --> 00:23:19,480 Speaker 2: It's Kennilly Casey. It's ninety three WIBC. 472 00:23:22,760 --> 00:23:27,480 Speaker 1: So you've got a new study that shows main street businesses, 473 00:23:28,280 --> 00:23:29,760 Speaker 1: you know, the mom and pops for lack of a 474 00:23:29,760 --> 00:23:31,920 Speaker 1: better term, are not doing well. 475 00:23:32,119 --> 00:23:33,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, there was a federal program. 476 00:23:33,760 --> 00:23:35,679 Speaker 3: It was launched in twenty twenty and it was to 477 00:23:35,720 --> 00:23:40,000 Speaker 3: help small businesses and individuals restructure their debts. And the 478 00:23:40,040 --> 00:23:42,920 Speaker 3: point it was to help them do it more cheaply 479 00:23:43,359 --> 00:23:48,240 Speaker 3: and also quicker than traditional Chapter eleven bankruptcy. But what 480 00:23:48,320 --> 00:23:52,160 Speaker 3: they found out was that there was an eight percent 481 00:23:52,240 --> 00:23:55,199 Speaker 3: increase from last year, and there are more mom and 482 00:23:55,280 --> 00:23:59,760 Speaker 3: pops that are going out of business, they're filing for bankruptcy. 483 00:24:00,359 --> 00:24:02,800 Speaker 3: And some of the reasons are because of the high 484 00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:07,560 Speaker 3: borrowing costs and weak consumer demand and economic pressures and 485 00:24:08,119 --> 00:24:13,879 Speaker 3: decline in small business ownership and optimism towards small businesses. 486 00:24:14,359 --> 00:24:18,760 Speaker 1: Now, look are small business owners in this country. You 487 00:24:18,840 --> 00:24:21,040 Speaker 1: are the heroes. You are the backbone of this country. 488 00:24:21,080 --> 00:24:24,440 Speaker 1: You don't get near the respect or thinks that you 489 00:24:24,440 --> 00:24:27,600 Speaker 1: you do. For many, many years, I earned my living 490 00:24:27,600 --> 00:24:31,359 Speaker 1: owning various small businesses. Still have a little side hustle 491 00:24:31,400 --> 00:24:34,680 Speaker 1: that I do, though not you know, an integral part 492 00:24:34,720 --> 00:24:38,480 Speaker 1: of my existence. But still file all the taxes and 493 00:24:38,520 --> 00:24:41,199 Speaker 1: all the ever you know, paperwork associated with that. So 494 00:24:41,240 --> 00:24:43,679 Speaker 1: I still keep a little toe dabbled in that. But 495 00:24:44,320 --> 00:24:47,160 Speaker 1: like I remember when I sold my radio station and 496 00:24:47,400 --> 00:24:50,399 Speaker 1: it was like such a relief because it was getting 497 00:24:50,440 --> 00:24:54,040 Speaker 1: so hard. Now this is, you know, a couple of 498 00:24:54,080 --> 00:24:56,240 Speaker 1: years ago, now whatever, Right, it's been a long time, 499 00:24:56,640 --> 00:24:58,919 Speaker 1: but I remember being done with it and just saying, 500 00:25:00,280 --> 00:25:06,520 Speaker 1: it's gotten so hard to not only start, even start, 501 00:25:06,560 --> 00:25:09,800 Speaker 1: but maintain a small business and the work that goes 502 00:25:09,800 --> 00:25:11,880 Speaker 1: into it versus the reward that comes out of it. 503 00:25:12,560 --> 00:25:15,080 Speaker 1: I'm done with that forever, right, Like I got the 504 00:25:15,200 --> 00:25:18,560 Speaker 1: entrepreneurial spirit out of myself at you know, at a 505 00:25:18,600 --> 00:25:20,080 Speaker 1: young age, and I used to have it. I used 506 00:25:20,119 --> 00:25:24,159 Speaker 1: to think all I would think of was creativity, creative 507 00:25:24,160 --> 00:25:26,400 Speaker 1: ways to do things, new programming, to put on new 508 00:25:26,440 --> 00:25:29,440 Speaker 1: things that you know, we could do to broadcast. And 509 00:25:30,040 --> 00:25:33,160 Speaker 1: it's just like that was so draining. I think about 510 00:25:33,240 --> 00:25:35,000 Speaker 1: that in my twenties and thirties versus trying to do 511 00:25:35,040 --> 00:25:36,880 Speaker 1: it in your forties. And there are people who get 512 00:25:36,920 --> 00:25:38,240 Speaker 1: up and do that every single day to make this 513 00:25:38,320 --> 00:25:40,280 Speaker 1: country work, and they're getting blood drawn. 514 00:25:40,640 --> 00:25:43,639 Speaker 3: Well, like going back to the healthcare conversation that we 515 00:25:43,680 --> 00:25:47,200 Speaker 3: had earlier, we're with a big company, so they're able 516 00:25:47,240 --> 00:25:51,120 Speaker 3: to negotiate on scale. Imagine if it's a small business 517 00:25:51,160 --> 00:25:54,320 Speaker 3: and you only have two, three, maybe four employees and 518 00:25:54,359 --> 00:25:59,120 Speaker 3: you're still providing health insurance, that cost is even higher. 519 00:25:59,200 --> 00:26:00,760 Speaker 1: Well, and it was always like the little things you 520 00:26:00,760 --> 00:26:03,119 Speaker 1: had to think about that nobody processes. So if you're 521 00:26:03,160 --> 00:26:05,520 Speaker 1: a small businesser and you're right like we work for 522 00:26:05,560 --> 00:26:08,080 Speaker 1: a big company. You know other Indus people that own 523 00:26:08,359 --> 00:26:11,960 Speaker 1: radio stations, TV stations, in this, in this you know industry. 524 00:26:11,880 --> 00:26:15,080 Speaker 1: They're big companies. But as a small entrepreneur you had 525 00:26:15,119 --> 00:26:19,480 Speaker 1: to think about things like with the FCC, there were 526 00:26:19,560 --> 00:26:22,080 Speaker 1: different reporting requirements based on how many employees you had. 527 00:26:22,440 --> 00:26:25,200 Speaker 1: The employee list if it was below a certain level 528 00:26:25,280 --> 00:26:27,040 Speaker 1: was way lower. The paperwork, the cost of at the 529 00:26:27,040 --> 00:26:29,199 Speaker 1: attorney's fees, all that was way lower. So we had 530 00:26:29,200 --> 00:26:31,760 Speaker 1: to be super cognizant at all times of how many 531 00:26:31,800 --> 00:26:34,679 Speaker 1: people we actually working for us to stay under the number. 532 00:26:34,520 --> 00:26:35,800 Speaker 2: The actually didn't want growth. 533 00:26:35,920 --> 00:26:37,399 Speaker 1: No, no, I mean like, well, I would have to 534 00:26:37,440 --> 00:26:39,560 Speaker 1: do it. Every decision I would make would have to 535 00:26:39,560 --> 00:26:41,159 Speaker 1: be okay, how many people who have working for us? 536 00:26:41,200 --> 00:26:43,560 Speaker 1: Can somebody do this? If not, can I do it? 537 00:26:43,640 --> 00:26:45,399 Speaker 1: Because we have to stay under this number because of 538 00:26:45,400 --> 00:26:46,879 Speaker 1: all the things that opens up. You have to do 539 00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:49,080 Speaker 1: same thing with like Osha and all these other things. 540 00:26:49,200 --> 00:26:52,760 Speaker 1: Right that the average person, and I'm not blaming anybody 541 00:26:52,840 --> 00:26:54,320 Speaker 1: goes to work each day. I'm one of those guys 542 00:26:54,359 --> 00:26:56,760 Speaker 1: now right. I'm cognizant of it because I've been on 543 00:26:56,760 --> 00:26:59,080 Speaker 1: the other end of the paycheck. I've signed checks on 544 00:26:59,119 --> 00:27:02,720 Speaker 1: the front. But the average person who gets a paycheck, 545 00:27:03,240 --> 00:27:04,600 Speaker 1: and God bless you if you go to work and 546 00:27:04,640 --> 00:27:07,119 Speaker 1: you're earning that money and nobody's saying you're not, but 547 00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:09,000 Speaker 1: you don't understand a lot of times it goes into 548 00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:10,919 Speaker 1: that check and the person behind the scenes on a 549 00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:14,000 Speaker 1: small business especially may not have you know, some robust 550 00:27:14,160 --> 00:27:18,399 Speaker 1: HR department or or you know robust accounting firm working 551 00:27:18,400 --> 00:27:21,160 Speaker 1: for them. It's a war zone out there right now, 552 00:27:21,160 --> 00:27:23,439 Speaker 1: and we are not doing anything to help these people. 553 00:27:23,920 --> 00:27:28,280 Speaker 3: Some other bankruptcy trends Chapter thirteen Consumer bankruptcy filings. They're 554 00:27:28,320 --> 00:27:30,879 Speaker 3: also on the rise. Over one hundred and eighty thousand 555 00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:33,920 Speaker 3: cases have been filed through November of this year, which 556 00:27:33,960 --> 00:27:36,240 Speaker 3: is a five percent increase from last year. 557 00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:41,399 Speaker 1: And again, the question becomes, if we get into a 558 00:27:41,480 --> 00:27:45,120 Speaker 1: world without small business owners, which is the as you're 559 00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:48,359 Speaker 1: laying out in great detail there statistically where we're headed, 560 00:27:49,240 --> 00:27:53,520 Speaker 1: what does that look like like? What does that what 561 00:27:53,520 --> 00:27:58,399 Speaker 1: does our country look like if we just have large companies, 562 00:27:59,320 --> 00:28:03,320 Speaker 1: many of them foreign, and those that are here detached 563 00:28:03,359 --> 00:28:07,359 Speaker 1: from any sort of sense of humanity or civic pride. 564 00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:11,040 Speaker 1: I mean, remember you, you showed this to me. I 565 00:28:11,080 --> 00:28:12,840 Speaker 1: think it was you that sent this to me. Some 566 00:28:13,080 --> 00:28:18,440 Speaker 1: guy on Twitter did an intense breakdown of the Dell guy. Right, 567 00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:20,399 Speaker 1: did you send that to me? I did, Yeah, and 568 00:28:20,440 --> 00:28:23,080 Speaker 1: I retweeted it at Rob Kendall. So yesterday Casey and 569 00:28:23,160 --> 00:28:25,760 Speaker 1: I did a big segment on Michael Dell. I think 570 00:28:25,840 --> 00:28:28,160 Speaker 1: is the guy's name. He's the he's the CEO now 571 00:28:28,200 --> 00:28:30,840 Speaker 1: of Dell Technologies, right, the computers, the chips, bl blah 572 00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:33,960 Speaker 1: blah blah. And he's getting all this praise because he 573 00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:37,560 Speaker 1: has given money to six. 574 00:28:37,359 --> 00:28:40,760 Speaker 3: Point twenty five billion dollars to fund the Trump accounts. Yeah, 575 00:28:40,800 --> 00:28:42,800 Speaker 3: the these twenty five million kids. 576 00:28:42,600 --> 00:28:44,320 Speaker 1: Right, these savings accounts that are being set up for 577 00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:47,440 Speaker 1: kids that are born during Trump's term, and he's giving 578 00:28:47,480 --> 00:28:49,040 Speaker 1: money to part of that. People are like, oh my gosh, 579 00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:50,880 Speaker 1: this is so great. And I said, well, wait a second. 580 00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:54,560 Speaker 1: I said, I've got a major concern not about philanthropy. 581 00:28:54,720 --> 00:28:56,400 Speaker 1: This guy wants to give his money to help kids. 582 00:28:56,400 --> 00:28:58,920 Speaker 1: It's great, but you've got a guy essentially buying his 583 00:28:58,960 --> 00:29:02,480 Speaker 1: way into the government when his company is a major 584 00:29:02,520 --> 00:29:08,200 Speaker 1: beneficiary of government policy and more importantly, government money. It's 585 00:29:08,280 --> 00:29:11,200 Speaker 1: Jim Mersay all over again. I've never given Jim Mersey 586 00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:14,720 Speaker 1: any credit for his philanthropic nature because a lot of 587 00:29:14,720 --> 00:29:17,600 Speaker 1: that money that he earned came by force from taxpayers, 588 00:29:17,640 --> 00:29:19,560 Speaker 1: because we had to pay for that stadium, which is 589 00:29:19,560 --> 00:29:23,320 Speaker 1: the primary source of his wealth. The taxpayers paying for 590 00:29:23,400 --> 00:29:26,160 Speaker 1: Lucas Oil stadium. It's like, we just gave him money. Well, 591 00:29:26,160 --> 00:29:28,000 Speaker 1: is see philanthropic If he took money from me and 592 00:29:28,040 --> 00:29:30,200 Speaker 1: gave it to somebody else, It's the same thing with 593 00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:35,840 Speaker 1: this guy. Dell Technologies has been an immense beneficiary a 594 00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:39,520 Speaker 1: recent government policy related to chips and things going on 595 00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:42,120 Speaker 1: here and this guy and people were like, well, there 596 00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:45,400 Speaker 1: goes rob just pouring cold water on everything again. And 597 00:29:45,440 --> 00:29:47,880 Speaker 1: then some guy on Twitter, which we retweeted. I retweeted 598 00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:49,800 Speaker 1: Robin kendallby you want to read it went through the 599 00:29:49,840 --> 00:29:53,000 Speaker 1: breakdown on how much this dude has actually benefitted from 600 00:29:53,040 --> 00:29:55,360 Speaker 1: the government and now he's buying back into Well. 601 00:29:55,440 --> 00:29:58,840 Speaker 3: The one thing that stood out to me was after 602 00:29:58,960 --> 00:30:04,040 Speaker 3: that announcement was made, Dell stock jumped four percent, so 603 00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:08,160 Speaker 3: they gained six billion dollars in market value from these 604 00:30:08,160 --> 00:30:10,840 Speaker 3: six billion dollar donations, so that was in net neutral, and. 605 00:30:10,800 --> 00:30:12,120 Speaker 1: He got a tax ride off for all that money 606 00:30:12,120 --> 00:30:15,040 Speaker 1: he gave away, So he's made huge amounts of money 607 00:30:15,040 --> 00:30:17,080 Speaker 1: by doing this, which is exactly what I said. And 608 00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:18,840 Speaker 1: I always find this so funny that people are like 609 00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:20,680 Speaker 1: with me when I will say something that is just 610 00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:24,680 Speaker 1: it's irrefutable what I'm telling them, but because it doesn't 611 00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:27,760 Speaker 1: sound nice, well, it's like he's doing it. What am 612 00:30:27,800 --> 00:30:29,960 Speaker 1: I supposed to do? Not act like that's not happening. 613 00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:32,760 Speaker 1: Am I supposed to Just not say anything about it? 614 00:30:32,760 --> 00:30:35,360 Speaker 1: It was a great business move on his part because 615 00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:38,440 Speaker 1: he's buying into the government he's increasing his stock value, 616 00:30:38,480 --> 00:30:41,480 Speaker 1: he's getting the tax ride off, and they're benefiting from 617 00:30:41,520 --> 00:30:44,400 Speaker 1: these policies that we're paying for as taxpayers. Am I 618 00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:47,080 Speaker 1: supposed to be excited that some guy who's boosting his 619 00:30:47,160 --> 00:30:49,800 Speaker 1: wealth off of my back is giving some of that 620 00:30:49,960 --> 00:30:52,760 Speaker 1: back to the taxpayers. Well, in the select ones, not me. 621 00:30:52,920 --> 00:30:55,680 Speaker 3: The other thing you have to think about is this 622 00:30:55,800 --> 00:31:00,680 Speaker 3: isn't tax free, it's tax deferred. So when that money 623 00:31:01,440 --> 00:31:04,160 Speaker 3: comes of age, when those children are eighteen, they're going 624 00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:07,280 Speaker 3: to be taxed on that money, which will go back 625 00:31:07,600 --> 00:31:08,360 Speaker 3: to the government. 626 00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:08,840 Speaker 1: That's right. 627 00:31:09,120 --> 00:31:09,400 Speaker 2: Yeah. 628 00:31:09,440 --> 00:31:12,040 Speaker 1: So anyway, I just thought that was fet that we're 629 00:31:12,040 --> 00:31:15,640 Speaker 1: talking about this, that we had mentioned that yesterday and 630 00:31:15,680 --> 00:31:18,239 Speaker 1: people some people were like getting very angry about it, Well, 631 00:31:18,280 --> 00:31:19,960 Speaker 1: nothing will make you happy, And I was like, no, 632 00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:21,600 Speaker 1: you have to look at what this guy's doing. He's 633 00:31:21,760 --> 00:31:26,000 Speaker 1: using the government to enhance his own wealth and portfolio 634 00:31:26,360 --> 00:31:27,600 Speaker 1: and the profile of it, and it. 635 00:31:27,640 --> 00:31:30,760 Speaker 2: Comes off as a pr move that he's helping out. 636 00:31:30,760 --> 00:31:32,880 Speaker 1: That was just so great that that dude went into 637 00:31:32,920 --> 00:31:35,600 Speaker 1: great detail. But I was like, as usual, Casey least 638 00:31:35,600 --> 00:31:36,560 Speaker 1: favorite part of every show. 639 00:31:37,040 --> 00:31:39,800 Speaker 2: It's Kendallly Casey. It's ninety three WIBC. 640 00:31:43,040 --> 00:31:46,760 Speaker 1: Did you see the ratings for that Chiefs and Cowboys game. 641 00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:47,760 Speaker 2: The Thanksgiving game? 642 00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:49,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, believable. 643 00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:50,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, I was off the chart. 644 00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:53,680 Speaker 3: Fifty seven point two to three million viewers on average 645 00:31:53,800 --> 00:31:57,800 Speaker 3: watched that football game on Thanksgiving. At one point, there 646 00:31:57,840 --> 00:32:00,680 Speaker 3: was like a fifteen minute period between seven forty five 647 00:32:00,720 --> 00:32:03,680 Speaker 3: and eight PM where they had over sixty one million 648 00:32:03,720 --> 00:32:05,160 Speaker 3: people watching that football game. 649 00:32:05,240 --> 00:32:08,000 Speaker 1: So it's the record, like non super Bowl record, Is 650 00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:09,000 Speaker 1: that correct? 651 00:32:09,280 --> 00:32:12,840 Speaker 3: It passed the previous Thanksgiving record of forty two million. 652 00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:15,000 Speaker 1: Thanks Giving record. Okay, yeah, yeah, so think about that. 653 00:32:15,080 --> 00:32:16,760 Speaker 1: You're what was the high point? 654 00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:18,160 Speaker 2: You said sixty one million? 655 00:32:18,280 --> 00:32:21,000 Speaker 1: Okay, so you're a country of roughly three hundred and 656 00:32:21,040 --> 00:32:24,040 Speaker 1: forty million people, three thirty five whatever the number is. 657 00:32:24,800 --> 00:32:29,160 Speaker 1: So at one point one out of every five point 658 00:32:29,280 --> 00:32:30,600 Speaker 1: five people in this country. 659 00:32:30,320 --> 00:32:33,760 Speaker 3: Were watching We're watching the Cowboys game regular season for 660 00:32:33,920 --> 00:32:34,880 Speaker 3: the night of Thanksgiving. 661 00:32:35,040 --> 00:32:35,360 Speaker 2: Yeah. 662 00:32:35,480 --> 00:32:37,800 Speaker 3: I mean, well, you've got some popular teams there, right, 663 00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:43,840 Speaker 3: national brands, You've got star players. It's a competitive playoff situation, 664 00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:48,800 Speaker 3: and you had a captive holiday audience, people sitting on 665 00:32:48,800 --> 00:32:50,120 Speaker 3: the couch with their tummy's full. 666 00:32:50,360 --> 00:32:53,200 Speaker 1: Yeah. But if you to put baseball on the Amara's 667 00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:55,120 Speaker 1: baseball didn't play. That would have been a honor right, 668 00:32:55,360 --> 00:32:57,240 Speaker 1: or even an NBA game, which there may have very 669 00:32:57,280 --> 00:32:58,960 Speaker 1: well been. I don't know if the NBA plays on Thanksgiving, 670 00:32:58,960 --> 00:33:02,200 Speaker 1: I other playing Christmas Day, but you're not doing anywhere 671 00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:05,080 Speaker 1: near that. And it really does show in this country 672 00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:12,320 Speaker 1: how football is the premiere not just sport. It's the 673 00:33:12,360 --> 00:33:16,240 Speaker 1: premiere viewing program in America is the National Football League. 674 00:33:16,840 --> 00:33:19,680 Speaker 1: And so when people like and I'm one of them, 675 00:33:20,160 --> 00:33:23,560 Speaker 1: get upset about the roughing, the passer calls or whatever, 676 00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:26,240 Speaker 1: you realize and it has it has changed the game, 677 00:33:26,280 --> 00:33:27,480 Speaker 1: and not for the better. I mean that they have 678 00:33:27,640 --> 00:33:30,520 Speaker 1: taken a player safety to like a ridiculous level, these 679 00:33:30,520 --> 00:33:33,800 Speaker 1: things they're calling on tackles or whatever. But you realize 680 00:33:33,840 --> 00:33:36,840 Speaker 1: if you're an owner and you're like, man, I got 681 00:33:36,840 --> 00:33:40,520 Speaker 1: this multi billion dollar product, which every team is a 682 00:33:40,560 --> 00:33:43,280 Speaker 1: multi billion dollar product, and it's a part of this 683 00:33:44,240 --> 00:33:48,560 Speaker 1: organization that is a gajillion dollar product, and our primary 684 00:33:48,640 --> 00:33:51,760 Speaker 1: asset are the players on the field, you do kind 685 00:33:51,760 --> 00:33:54,120 Speaker 1: of see why they've really cracked down on breathing on 686 00:33:54,240 --> 00:33:58,840 Speaker 1: people because there's sixty one million eyeballs and stick. 687 00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:04,760 Speaker 3: Well, I mean, it's it just shows the strong interest, 688 00:34:05,040 --> 00:34:06,440 Speaker 3: right that you've got. 689 00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:09,640 Speaker 1: Well, and if it's I'm not trying to you know, 690 00:34:09,800 --> 00:34:14,879 Speaker 1: salt anybody, but if it were, you know, I'm trying 691 00:34:14,920 --> 00:34:18,760 Speaker 1: to pick an old timey quarterback. If it was Dashaun Kaiser, 692 00:34:18,840 --> 00:34:21,200 Speaker 1: I'll pick two Notre Dame quarterbacks. If it was Dashawn 693 00:34:21,239 --> 00:34:23,960 Speaker 1: Kaiser going to Brady Quinn back. There ain't sixty one 694 00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:27,759 Speaker 1: million people watching. It's because it's Mahomes and Dak Prescott 695 00:34:27,760 --> 00:34:29,560 Speaker 1: is the quarterback for the Cowboys, like as you said, 696 00:34:29,680 --> 00:34:31,200 Speaker 1: two Marquee players in the league. 697 00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:34,000 Speaker 3: Right, So we were looking at buying tickets to see 698 00:34:34,120 --> 00:34:36,920 Speaker 3: because when we were in Baltimore over Thanksgiving, the Ravens 699 00:34:36,920 --> 00:34:39,080 Speaker 3: played and we thought, oh, that that might be kind 700 00:34:39,080 --> 00:34:41,840 Speaker 3: of fun. The temperature was really cold, and we decided 701 00:34:41,840 --> 00:34:43,440 Speaker 3: we were all too tired. We'd rather just sit on 702 00:34:43,440 --> 00:34:46,239 Speaker 3: the couch and watch football anyway. But the tickets were 703 00:34:46,239 --> 00:34:48,800 Speaker 3: one hundred dollars each. So we were trying to figure 704 00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:54,840 Speaker 3: out the math of the stadium and how much they make. Yeah, 705 00:34:54,880 --> 00:34:59,200 Speaker 3: you know per game you got just like here in Indianapolis, 706 00:34:59,200 --> 00:35:02,759 Speaker 3: you've got the big, beauty, full stadium, right, and what 707 00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:05,239 Speaker 3: there's only six seven home games a year. 708 00:35:05,800 --> 00:35:08,600 Speaker 1: Well, are we counting preseason? Are we just kinunting regular 709 00:35:08,840 --> 00:35:11,720 Speaker 1: regular season? Yeah? So you've got eight or nine now, yeah, close, Nita. 710 00:35:12,239 --> 00:35:14,760 Speaker 3: And you know how much do they have to charge 711 00:35:14,800 --> 00:35:19,399 Speaker 3: per ticket to make to make it work financially? Well, 712 00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:21,759 Speaker 3: but then when you've got to you can consider the 713 00:35:21,760 --> 00:35:25,680 Speaker 3: concessions and all of the merch, and then the TV rights. 714 00:35:25,880 --> 00:35:26,720 Speaker 2: That's a big one. 715 00:35:26,880 --> 00:35:29,440 Speaker 1: That's it you're spot on, which is it's the merch 716 00:35:29,840 --> 00:35:32,000 Speaker 1: and the TV Right now, the merch, I don't know 717 00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:34,319 Speaker 1: if the NFL has changed. This came out years ago 718 00:35:35,040 --> 00:35:37,359 Speaker 1: when Tim Tebow was playing. That's when it came out 719 00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:40,200 Speaker 1: because all those Tebow jerseys were selling and people said, well, 720 00:35:40,280 --> 00:35:42,400 Speaker 1: somebody would just want him on their team because of 721 00:35:42,440 --> 00:35:44,920 Speaker 1: his merch. And then it came out how the NFL's 722 00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:49,560 Speaker 1: merch deal works where it gets disseminated amongst all the teams, 723 00:35:49,840 --> 00:35:53,279 Speaker 1: So there's no real advantage other than ticket sales game 724 00:35:53,360 --> 00:35:56,319 Speaker 1: day ticket sales to having an attraction on your roster 725 00:35:56,360 --> 00:35:58,840 Speaker 1: who doesn't actually help your team because the merch the 726 00:35:58,840 --> 00:36:01,520 Speaker 1: way it gets disseminated, it goes to the Colts, the 727 00:36:01,520 --> 00:36:03,960 Speaker 1: same way with the Jets or the Broncos or whoever 728 00:36:04,040 --> 00:36:05,480 Speaker 1: had Tim Tebow that on their team. 729 00:36:05,480 --> 00:36:09,520 Speaker 2: At the time, they split it up among the entire league. 730 00:36:09,239 --> 00:36:14,480 Speaker 1: Sixty one million people. Like, it's hard to fathom how 731 00:36:14,560 --> 00:36:18,359 Speaker 1: many people that actually is, Like what that would look 732 00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:21,000 Speaker 1: like if you could somehow get an aerial view of 733 00:36:21,120 --> 00:36:22,760 Speaker 1: sixty one million people. 734 00:36:23,280 --> 00:36:25,640 Speaker 2: Now, let me ask you this. Do you remember the 735 00:36:25,680 --> 00:36:27,719 Speaker 2: score of that game? Did you watch it? 736 00:36:27,880 --> 00:36:28,040 Speaker 1: Whit? 737 00:36:28,160 --> 00:36:29,600 Speaker 2: Were you one of the sixty one million? 738 00:36:29,760 --> 00:36:33,719 Speaker 1: I did, because I've got the Cowboys at sixty five 739 00:36:33,760 --> 00:36:36,040 Speaker 1: to one to win the Super Bowl the preseason Betski, 740 00:36:36,480 --> 00:36:40,960 Speaker 1: and I know the Cowboys won the game. It was closed. 741 00:36:40,960 --> 00:36:44,440 Speaker 1: Now I didn't watch all of it, but it was close, 742 00:36:44,520 --> 00:36:46,000 Speaker 1: and I think it came down to the end, right, 743 00:36:46,040 --> 00:36:47,640 Speaker 1: there was a field goal or something at the end 744 00:36:47,680 --> 00:36:49,319 Speaker 1: of the game that won it. It came down to 745 00:36:49,320 --> 00:36:54,360 Speaker 1: the final possession. Yeah, so well, oh, I thought you 746 00:36:54,360 --> 00:36:55,360 Speaker 1: were gonna give me the final score. 747 00:36:55,520 --> 00:36:56,120 Speaker 2: Oh no, I don't. 748 00:36:56,400 --> 00:36:57,920 Speaker 1: I don't have get like this is a test. 749 00:36:58,160 --> 00:37:00,120 Speaker 3: No, I'm just saying it's like, in the moment, Oh, 750 00:37:00,440 --> 00:37:02,960 Speaker 3: you're totally glued to it because it's the thing to do. 751 00:37:03,360 --> 00:37:06,399 Speaker 2: But now that it's past, like, you can't even remember 752 00:37:06,440 --> 00:37:07,360 Speaker 2: what the final score was. 753 00:37:07,560 --> 00:37:09,160 Speaker 1: You know, this show was so good today. I bet 754 00:37:09,200 --> 00:37:10,520 Speaker 1: they give us a fabulous raise. 755 00:37:10,680 --> 00:37:13,920 Speaker 3: You think so, don't hold your breath. Thank you, Rob, 756 00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:16,400 Speaker 3: thank you Kevin, Thank you for listening today. This is 757 00:37:16,480 --> 00:37:19,480 Speaker 3: being Kendall and Casey on ninety three WIBC