1 00:00:00,320 --> 00:00:05,360 Speaker 1: So it sounds like there are some updates in the 2 00:00:05,680 --> 00:00:09,720 Speaker 1: hunt to track down the assassin who killed Charlie Kirk. 3 00:00:09,800 --> 00:00:12,680 Speaker 2: Yesterday, now, look, I must say this. 4 00:00:12,640 --> 00:00:18,680 Speaker 1: The FBI looked like just rotten yesterday cash Pttel putting 5 00:00:18,680 --> 00:00:21,200 Speaker 1: all that stuff out and then having a basically backtrack 6 00:00:21,239 --> 00:00:23,680 Speaker 1: out of it, like making the public that they had 7 00:00:23,720 --> 00:00:26,360 Speaker 1: the person. Yeah, this person has been set for I 8 00:00:26,440 --> 00:00:29,479 Speaker 1: mean that he should be ashamed of himself for doing that. 9 00:00:29,680 --> 00:00:31,720 Speaker 3: Yeah. He said on x that a person arrested and 10 00:00:31,880 --> 00:00:34,440 Speaker 3: was arrested after the shooting, initially thought to be the 11 00:00:34,479 --> 00:00:39,440 Speaker 3: individual that was responsible, was then released after questioning, And 12 00:00:39,479 --> 00:00:42,760 Speaker 3: then they had detained another person in the aftermath, and 13 00:00:42,800 --> 00:00:46,240 Speaker 3: that person was also released. And now it's being reported 14 00:00:46,240 --> 00:00:48,960 Speaker 3: that the FBI has recovered a high powered bolt action 15 00:00:49,159 --> 00:00:53,200 Speaker 3: rifle in a wooded area where the assassin fled after 16 00:00:53,280 --> 00:00:54,360 Speaker 3: killing Charlie Kirk. 17 00:00:55,320 --> 00:00:57,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, you can't make that mistake though. 18 00:00:57,800 --> 00:01:00,520 Speaker 1: You can't lead the public to believe that you have 19 00:01:00,680 --> 00:01:03,960 Speaker 1: the person in custody and then go uh false alarm 20 00:01:04,240 --> 00:01:05,640 Speaker 1: everybody back on the man hunt. 21 00:01:06,120 --> 00:01:08,480 Speaker 2: This is why people don't believe anything their government. 22 00:01:08,120 --> 00:01:12,319 Speaker 1: Says, because you're right on multiple instances, but especially with 23 00:01:12,400 --> 00:01:16,720 Speaker 1: that last one. Cash Fattel, director of the FBI, made 24 00:01:16,720 --> 00:01:19,720 Speaker 1: it sound like, Hey, the dude's in custody. I don't 25 00:01:19,800 --> 00:01:23,320 Speaker 1: understand how how he could how he could make that mistake. 26 00:01:23,360 --> 00:01:24,560 Speaker 1: It's one thing to have a guy I think, hey, 27 00:01:24,600 --> 00:01:26,240 Speaker 1: maybe this is the guy. You know, let's get him, 28 00:01:26,280 --> 00:01:26,840 Speaker 1: let's grow you know. 29 00:01:27,120 --> 00:01:29,720 Speaker 3: Well, that's a communication error. Obviously, Cash Pattal I don't 30 00:01:29,720 --> 00:01:31,880 Speaker 3: believe was in Utah. 31 00:01:31,200 --> 00:01:31,880 Speaker 2: But he can't. 32 00:01:31,920 --> 00:01:35,120 Speaker 3: So he's getting that information from somebody, and he must 33 00:01:35,160 --> 00:01:39,320 Speaker 3: have had some degree of confidence in it or you 34 00:01:39,400 --> 00:01:40,720 Speaker 3: think he wouldn't put it out there. 35 00:01:40,959 --> 00:01:42,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, but that's who's going to get fired because of 36 00:01:42,880 --> 00:01:43,200 Speaker 2: that thing. 37 00:01:44,240 --> 00:01:47,480 Speaker 1: Somebody clearly told him that was the guy, right, and 38 00:01:47,680 --> 00:01:49,360 Speaker 1: if they didn't offer any evidence that that was the 39 00:01:49,400 --> 00:01:51,640 Speaker 1: guy and said it was the guy, he's the director 40 00:01:51,640 --> 00:01:55,640 Speaker 1: of the FBI. Casey, you can't. You can't make that mistake. 41 00:01:55,960 --> 00:01:58,720 Speaker 1: But I'm sure nobody will get fired. Nothing all happened 42 00:01:58,960 --> 00:02:02,120 Speaker 1: by the way side of Charlie Kirk. When you factor 43 00:02:02,160 --> 00:02:06,520 Speaker 1: in that and the Epstein stuff and these guys. I 44 00:02:06,520 --> 00:02:09,480 Speaker 1: thought this was supposed to be the new, better improved FBI. 45 00:02:10,440 --> 00:02:14,360 Speaker 1: They certainly seem like business as usual over there. Based 46 00:02:14,400 --> 00:02:15,560 Speaker 1: on the stuff we've seen so far. 47 00:02:16,240 --> 00:02:17,960 Speaker 3: Well, you know, going back to something that I said 48 00:02:17,960 --> 00:02:22,160 Speaker 3: on the air yesterday Twitter, Courtney had texted me yesterday 49 00:02:22,200 --> 00:02:24,200 Speaker 3: afternoon and we were kind of going back and forth 50 00:02:24,280 --> 00:02:27,040 Speaker 3: with this, and her question was, you know, where do 51 00:02:27,080 --> 00:02:29,399 Speaker 3: we go from here? Next steps? And I think that's 52 00:02:29,400 --> 00:02:32,440 Speaker 3: something that we can talk about. But I reminded her 53 00:02:32,680 --> 00:02:36,280 Speaker 3: just yesterday on the air, I said, we live in 54 00:02:36,320 --> 00:02:43,120 Speaker 3: a much more dangerous and complicated world and organizations like 55 00:02:43,200 --> 00:02:48,320 Speaker 3: the FBI have got to step up as well to 56 00:02:48,440 --> 00:02:48,919 Speaker 3: match that. 57 00:02:49,840 --> 00:02:55,160 Speaker 1: So the bigger, the bigger question is like when they 58 00:02:55,240 --> 00:03:01,720 Speaker 1: tried to kill Trump twice, Trump was just like, eh, 59 00:03:01,760 --> 00:03:05,800 Speaker 1: I'm going about now. They may have made some alterations 60 00:03:05,840 --> 00:03:10,600 Speaker 1: on how they secured him or whatever, but by and large, 61 00:03:10,600 --> 00:03:12,920 Speaker 1: it was pretty much business as usual for him in 62 00:03:12,960 --> 00:03:14,519 Speaker 1: terms of doing the rallies. And I know they brought 63 00:03:14,560 --> 00:03:17,240 Speaker 1: him indoors, but then they were, as you found out, 64 00:03:17,240 --> 00:03:19,440 Speaker 1: they were back out outdoors before too. Like you went 65 00:03:19,480 --> 00:03:22,400 Speaker 1: to the one in Butler in Butler, Pennsylvania, And you know. 66 00:03:22,480 --> 00:03:25,880 Speaker 3: What's interesting about that trip. I went to Butler, Pennsylvania 67 00:03:25,960 --> 00:03:28,960 Speaker 3: for the second rally, and then the next day we 68 00:03:29,040 --> 00:03:32,880 Speaker 3: stopped at the flight ninety three memorial. Yeah, on our 69 00:03:32,919 --> 00:03:36,440 Speaker 3: way through Pennsylvania, which is a wonderful memorial if you 70 00:03:36,440 --> 00:03:39,080 Speaker 3: ever get a chance in Shanksville to visit that. 71 00:03:40,160 --> 00:03:44,600 Speaker 1: But the question becomes, for people who aren't the president 72 00:03:45,040 --> 00:03:49,280 Speaker 1: or don't have access to Secret Service president level of security, 73 00:03:50,400 --> 00:03:56,160 Speaker 1: how do you even do outdoor events now? Because it's 74 00:03:56,880 --> 00:03:58,880 Speaker 1: and Guy Relford was on with Himer Nigel talking about 75 00:03:58,880 --> 00:03:59,440 Speaker 1: this yesterday. 76 00:04:01,840 --> 00:04:04,000 Speaker 2: There's no way even someone. 77 00:04:03,760 --> 00:04:07,520 Speaker 1: With the resources of a Charlie Kirk could properly secure 78 00:04:09,200 --> 00:04:13,760 Speaker 1: a perimeter beyond you know, one hundred yards. I mean, 79 00:04:13,840 --> 00:04:16,120 Speaker 1: but even then, it's like, you don't you just don't 80 00:04:16,120 --> 00:04:17,360 Speaker 1: have the resources to be. 81 00:04:17,320 --> 00:04:18,440 Speaker 2: Able to do that. 82 00:04:19,520 --> 00:04:21,120 Speaker 1: And I hate to say this, but I don't know 83 00:04:21,160 --> 00:04:22,839 Speaker 1: if the only option now is to just you got 84 00:04:22,839 --> 00:04:25,200 Speaker 1: to take everything indoors and you can have all these checkpoints, 85 00:04:25,240 --> 00:04:26,560 Speaker 1: and I mean, I don't know, I don't know. 86 00:04:26,640 --> 00:04:27,440 Speaker 2: I think it goes. 87 00:04:27,279 --> 00:04:30,440 Speaker 3: Back to what you originally said when we started the show, 88 00:04:30,520 --> 00:04:34,160 Speaker 3: is that you can't live in fear. You can't have 89 00:04:34,240 --> 00:04:35,680 Speaker 3: this stop you. 90 00:04:35,720 --> 00:04:38,039 Speaker 1: No, but they're speak but there is a difference between 91 00:04:38,080 --> 00:04:43,159 Speaker 1: living in fear and living smarter. I don't think taking 92 00:04:43,160 --> 00:04:45,200 Speaker 1: it indoors means you're living in fear. I means you 93 00:04:45,240 --> 00:04:48,479 Speaker 1: got to alter. I mean there's a huge difference between 94 00:04:48,680 --> 00:04:51,599 Speaker 1: shutting up and hiding underneath the covers and say we 95 00:04:51,640 --> 00:04:54,680 Speaker 1: got to change the way we do business. I mean, clearly, 96 00:04:54,720 --> 00:04:57,360 Speaker 1: And it's nobody's fault. I'm not implying it's anyone's fault. 97 00:04:57,480 --> 00:04:59,120 Speaker 1: I mean, Guy Ralford, like I said, did a phenomenal 98 00:04:59,200 --> 00:05:01,240 Speaker 1: job because he's done and it just being a obviously 99 00:05:01,279 --> 00:05:03,880 Speaker 1: firearms expert, he's done security and been a part of 100 00:05:03,920 --> 00:05:05,159 Speaker 1: these types of events. 101 00:05:04,839 --> 00:05:06,080 Speaker 2: And he says, look, there's just a limit. 102 00:05:06,720 --> 00:05:08,680 Speaker 1: There's just a limit to somebody, not the President of 103 00:05:08,680 --> 00:05:11,400 Speaker 1: the United States has In terms of how secure you 104 00:05:11,440 --> 00:05:15,080 Speaker 1: can make an outdoor venue, you are to some extent, 105 00:05:15,800 --> 00:05:19,320 Speaker 1: if you're outdoors doing something in the outdoors, you're going 106 00:05:19,360 --> 00:05:19,640 Speaker 1: to be. 107 00:05:19,640 --> 00:05:22,640 Speaker 3: As the risk level is not zero. 108 00:05:22,560 --> 00:05:25,120 Speaker 2: A target, you know, to some extent. 109 00:05:25,200 --> 00:05:28,400 Speaker 1: It is even true with sporting events, although unless it's 110 00:05:28,440 --> 00:05:31,479 Speaker 1: a place like Wrigley Field, you're generally not in a 111 00:05:31,560 --> 00:05:34,680 Speaker 1: residential type of area where people have access to rooftops, 112 00:05:34,680 --> 00:05:38,120 Speaker 1: et cetera. So the venue itself, even though it may 113 00:05:38,160 --> 00:05:40,920 Speaker 1: be outdoors like a baseball stadium, sort of serves as 114 00:05:40,960 --> 00:05:46,960 Speaker 1: a dome type of thing NFL stadiums the same way. 115 00:05:47,279 --> 00:05:49,880 Speaker 2: I just don't, you know. 116 00:05:50,160 --> 00:05:53,159 Speaker 1: And again there's nobody there was, not another Charlie Kirk, 117 00:05:53,279 --> 00:05:55,480 Speaker 1: but whether you know, it's these other guys that are 118 00:05:55,480 --> 00:05:58,120 Speaker 1: in a similar line of orc, the Ben Shapiro's, the 119 00:05:58,160 --> 00:06:00,000 Speaker 1: Matt Walsh, those type of guys. 120 00:06:00,040 --> 00:06:02,680 Speaker 2: Eyes I don't I don't know. 121 00:06:03,000 --> 00:06:05,279 Speaker 1: I don't see how you can continue to do these 122 00:06:05,360 --> 00:06:08,800 Speaker 1: going forward unless you're gonna do a I mean, I'm 123 00:06:08,800 --> 00:06:10,120 Speaker 1: not trying to be funny in any way the way 124 00:06:10,120 --> 00:06:10,400 Speaker 1: I say this. 125 00:06:10,600 --> 00:06:13,280 Speaker 2: It's like a Pope type thing, you know, the mobile, 126 00:06:13,960 --> 00:06:16,840 Speaker 2: the bulletproof glass around you and you're in a you know, 127 00:06:17,160 --> 00:06:18,239 Speaker 2: a case or whatever. 128 00:06:18,560 --> 00:06:20,840 Speaker 1: And again I'm not in any way trying to make 129 00:06:20,960 --> 00:06:22,960 Speaker 1: light of this. I'm saying I don't know how you 130 00:06:23,000 --> 00:06:27,839 Speaker 1: would do that going forward and secure your your your safety. 131 00:06:27,920 --> 00:06:29,280 Speaker 2: I just don't. I don't think you could. 132 00:06:29,440 --> 00:06:32,440 Speaker 3: It's also being reported that investigators have collected a foot 133 00:06:32,760 --> 00:06:37,560 Speaker 3: wear impression, a palm print, and also a forearm imprint 134 00:06:37,960 --> 00:06:41,600 Speaker 3: for analysis of the assassin. 135 00:06:41,960 --> 00:06:44,720 Speaker 1: I think part of this comes back to what we've 136 00:06:44,760 --> 00:06:46,560 Speaker 1: talked about, and we've talked about it throughout the course 137 00:06:46,600 --> 00:06:50,920 Speaker 1: of the show today. I just I think We've entered 138 00:06:50,920 --> 00:06:56,159 Speaker 1: a point of no return in terms of how the 139 00:06:56,279 --> 00:07:02,320 Speaker 1: Internet has emboldened people to insanity, and there's no turning 140 00:07:02,320 --> 00:07:05,280 Speaker 1: back from it because the Internet's not going away, but 141 00:07:05,320 --> 00:07:07,440 Speaker 1: the but there used to be. I don't you know, 142 00:07:07,480 --> 00:07:10,720 Speaker 1: you and I have chatted before. Are the people more 143 00:07:10,920 --> 00:07:13,560 Speaker 1: crazy now or do we just know about them? 144 00:07:13,600 --> 00:07:15,680 Speaker 2: We're aware of it? And I still don't know what 145 00:07:15,720 --> 00:07:16,760 Speaker 2: the answer to that is. 146 00:07:17,760 --> 00:07:20,360 Speaker 1: I do think it's maybe a mixture of both, where 147 00:07:20,400 --> 00:07:24,320 Speaker 1: people have become more radicalized. I mean, clearly there have 148 00:07:24,400 --> 00:07:28,400 Speaker 1: always been radical people in this country have done insane 149 00:07:28,440 --> 00:07:30,560 Speaker 1: things all the way back to you know, John Wilkes 150 00:07:30,560 --> 00:07:34,280 Speaker 1: Booth right, there was no internet or computers or whatever. 151 00:07:34,360 --> 00:07:37,000 Speaker 1: Then there was a cause, the thing that he was 152 00:07:37,040 --> 00:07:40,520 Speaker 1: passionate about. He was wrong, but but you know he 153 00:07:40,560 --> 00:07:44,400 Speaker 1: did the thing. Or whether it's Oswald or it's Sir Hans, 154 00:07:44,440 --> 00:07:47,120 Speaker 1: Sir Han or you know the guy who killed John 155 00:07:47,200 --> 00:07:49,560 Speaker 1: Lennon or why. I mean, some people are just crazy, right, 156 00:07:50,000 --> 00:07:53,440 Speaker 1: so you're never gonna stop it. But I just I 157 00:07:53,600 --> 00:07:57,960 Speaker 1: find it fascinating that a guy with no power whatsoever, 158 00:07:58,840 --> 00:08:02,200 Speaker 1: no ability to raise your tag as lowyer taxes, you know, 159 00:08:02,240 --> 00:08:06,440 Speaker 1: as much as he talked about trans issues, cast public policy. 160 00:08:06,080 --> 00:08:07,640 Speaker 2: On any of that. 161 00:08:07,640 --> 00:08:11,840 Speaker 1: That that guy was the target of someone without the 162 00:08:11,880 --> 00:08:14,800 Speaker 1: ability to do anything. But then I look at my 163 00:08:14,800 --> 00:08:17,680 Speaker 1: own social media feed and it's a great example of 164 00:08:17,720 --> 00:08:20,200 Speaker 1: how just ridiculous people are. You know what people are 165 00:08:20,240 --> 00:08:22,640 Speaker 1: barking about me today, Casey on social media and it's 166 00:08:22,640 --> 00:08:23,200 Speaker 1: a daily. 167 00:08:22,960 --> 00:08:23,400 Speaker 2: Current for me. 168 00:08:23,400 --> 00:08:25,400 Speaker 3: So because I haven't looked at your feed, it doesn't 169 00:08:25,440 --> 00:08:26,520 Speaker 3: And that's why we're spin on the air. 170 00:08:26,560 --> 00:08:29,360 Speaker 1: That's why you're so happy they're barking at me because 171 00:08:29,440 --> 00:08:33,920 Speaker 1: yesterday I posted our state House Happening show about Jennifer 172 00:08:34,000 --> 00:08:36,720 Speaker 1: Ruth Green and the alleged scandal and corruption with her, 173 00:08:36,720 --> 00:08:39,640 Speaker 1: which is what our state House Happening show was about, right, 174 00:08:40,160 --> 00:08:43,320 Speaker 1: and someone is was barking at me about can't you 175 00:08:43,440 --> 00:08:44,800 Speaker 1: just let it go for one day? 176 00:08:45,360 --> 00:08:45,560 Speaker 2: Oh? 177 00:08:45,600 --> 00:08:48,960 Speaker 3: Because that got posted right before the news came out 178 00:08:48,960 --> 00:08:50,319 Speaker 3: about the assassination. 179 00:08:50,640 --> 00:08:52,280 Speaker 2: We record that show. 180 00:08:53,600 --> 00:08:56,240 Speaker 1: Wednesday mornings, like before we come on the air here 181 00:08:56,559 --> 00:09:00,720 Speaker 1: it gets posted usually about one or one thirty ish. 182 00:09:01,440 --> 00:09:03,880 Speaker 1: The news of Charlie Kirk didn't start to break until 183 00:09:04,120 --> 00:09:05,319 Speaker 1: two thirty or later. 184 00:09:05,800 --> 00:09:07,480 Speaker 2: And I just tried to politely point out to this. 185 00:09:07,440 --> 00:09:10,400 Speaker 1: Person, you hate it so like I see this right, 186 00:09:10,720 --> 00:09:13,160 Speaker 1: You're so angry at me, and these are the same 187 00:09:13,200 --> 00:09:14,520 Speaker 1: people that are always barking at me. 188 00:09:14,760 --> 00:09:18,559 Speaker 2: Your ego is ridiculous. I can't believe you'd post this 189 00:09:18,640 --> 00:09:19,880 Speaker 2: other day, Charlie Kirk. 190 00:09:21,000 --> 00:09:24,280 Speaker 1: I said it before, ma'am. Yeah, ma'am. We post this 191 00:09:24,320 --> 00:09:28,440 Speaker 1: at the same time every week. It's recorded in the morning. 192 00:09:29,120 --> 00:09:31,680 Speaker 1: It was posted in the afternoon. And even if it 193 00:09:31,880 --> 00:09:34,920 Speaker 1: hadn't been, do you think Charlie Kirk would have been like, hey, dude, 194 00:09:34,920 --> 00:09:39,079 Speaker 1: don't expose the potential government scandals and potential government corruption. No, 195 00:09:39,200 --> 00:09:41,120 Speaker 1: Charlie Kirk would be like, dude, good job, get to 196 00:09:41,160 --> 00:09:44,560 Speaker 1: the true cheap going. But yet multiple people your ego, 197 00:09:44,600 --> 00:09:47,160 Speaker 1: you're this to that. It's like this was posted before. 198 00:09:47,400 --> 00:09:49,480 Speaker 1: It wouldn't matter if it wasn't. This is a program 199 00:09:49,480 --> 00:09:51,240 Speaker 1: we do every week. This is a program that runs 200 00:09:51,280 --> 00:09:55,160 Speaker 1: on this radio station. So like it's some spec it's 201 00:09:55,200 --> 00:09:58,400 Speaker 1: some speck of the insanity that's out there that when 202 00:09:58,400 --> 00:10:02,160 Speaker 1: people just decide they hate somebody, it's just all bad 203 00:10:02,280 --> 00:10:04,360 Speaker 1: all the time, and I'm gonna get you. And he 204 00:10:04,520 --> 00:10:07,120 Speaker 1: deals it, dealt with it on a level obviously that 205 00:10:07,160 --> 00:10:08,319 Speaker 1: I've never had to deal. 206 00:10:08,120 --> 00:10:11,719 Speaker 2: With it on. But it's just like, what are we 207 00:10:11,800 --> 00:10:15,880 Speaker 2: doing where people are just looking like looking for reasons, 208 00:10:16,200 --> 00:10:18,480 Speaker 2: and you don't know if you anger some people who 209 00:10:18,520 --> 00:10:21,360 Speaker 2: aren't wired properly to a certain point, they can clearly 210 00:10:21,600 --> 00:10:23,199 Speaker 2: are willing to do about anything. 211 00:10:23,880 --> 00:10:30,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, the reactions on social media have been incredible, and 212 00:10:30,559 --> 00:10:33,400 Speaker 3: you know, we had this conversation the other day. I 213 00:10:33,960 --> 00:10:37,680 Speaker 3: don't even know if you social media is the right 214 00:10:37,800 --> 00:10:41,240 Speaker 3: word for it anymore, because I feel like now it's 215 00:10:41,480 --> 00:10:47,320 Speaker 3: more of an interest slash community media. Because we had 216 00:10:47,360 --> 00:10:51,120 Speaker 3: talked that survey that came out from NBC News and 217 00:10:51,160 --> 00:10:54,680 Speaker 3: how the least concern of all the Gen Z voters 218 00:10:54,920 --> 00:10:59,240 Speaker 3: was fame, and we talked about how that was interesting 219 00:10:59,280 --> 00:11:01,600 Speaker 3: in this time of likes and views and clicks. 220 00:11:02,520 --> 00:11:04,320 Speaker 2: But social media. 221 00:11:04,040 --> 00:11:07,880 Speaker 3: Is now twenty years old, and I think it's starting 222 00:11:07,920 --> 00:11:12,040 Speaker 3: to evolve in the way we use it maybe ten 223 00:11:12,200 --> 00:11:14,800 Speaker 3: fifteen years ago is for likes and views and to 224 00:11:14,840 --> 00:11:18,840 Speaker 3: win the popularity contest. I believe now people are seeking 225 00:11:18,880 --> 00:11:24,040 Speaker 3: out like minded people or what they're interested in and 226 00:11:24,240 --> 00:11:29,359 Speaker 3: trying to use social media as more of a community 227 00:11:29,559 --> 00:11:33,079 Speaker 3: builder for them because they're not getting it in person 228 00:11:34,760 --> 00:11:37,680 Speaker 3: they used to, so now they're trying to build their 229 00:11:37,720 --> 00:11:38,839 Speaker 3: community online. 230 00:11:39,600 --> 00:11:42,640 Speaker 1: So you're saying it is now for some people evolved 231 00:11:42,640 --> 00:11:46,160 Speaker 1: into I am not bad, I am not extreme. I 232 00:11:46,200 --> 00:11:48,280 Speaker 1: am justified because look at all these people who agree 233 00:11:48,320 --> 00:11:58,880 Speaker 1: with me, and you find solace or affirmation in other people. 234 00:12:00,000 --> 00:12:02,280 Speaker 3: Who feel the same way, who feel the same way. 235 00:12:03,240 --> 00:12:07,000 Speaker 1: That's very interesting and I actually think that's very astute 236 00:12:07,240 --> 00:12:11,000 Speaker 1: that you may be spot onto something which is we 237 00:12:11,080 --> 00:12:14,880 Speaker 1: have created, and especially in a post COVID world, because 238 00:12:14,920 --> 00:12:18,760 Speaker 1: COVID cut everybody off from each other, this lonely existence 239 00:12:18,800 --> 00:12:22,880 Speaker 1: that has been amplified, and people of the younger generation 240 00:12:23,360 --> 00:12:25,880 Speaker 1: who was ingrained in a sense of normality not to 241 00:12:25,960 --> 00:12:29,440 Speaker 1: be having human in person contact. And as a part 242 00:12:29,440 --> 00:12:33,280 Speaker 1: of that, people are now in extreme corners of the 243 00:12:33,320 --> 00:12:37,760 Speaker 1: internet with extreme ideologies, finding comfort and groupthink and solace 244 00:12:38,120 --> 00:12:41,600 Speaker 1: and affirmation in their warped extremist views. 245 00:12:42,480 --> 00:12:44,240 Speaker 2: That's very interesting. 246 00:12:44,440 --> 00:12:47,640 Speaker 3: You're listening to Kendall and Casey. It is ninety three WYBC. 247 00:12:53,280 --> 00:13:04,719 Speaker 4: Everybody excess, everybody exce like you told me something that 248 00:13:04,800 --> 00:13:06,400 Speaker 4: has blew my mind. 249 00:13:07,760 --> 00:13:09,560 Speaker 2: It's Kennel and Casey show. By the way, I'm Rob 250 00:13:09,600 --> 00:13:12,080 Speaker 2: that's Casey, and obviously this has been just a much 251 00:13:12,080 --> 00:13:14,000 Speaker 2: different show than we normally do we think everybody who's 252 00:13:14,040 --> 00:13:16,360 Speaker 2: been with us throughout the day to day the. 253 00:13:16,200 --> 00:13:18,760 Speaker 1: Tragic assassination of Charlie Kirk. And then you couple that 254 00:13:18,800 --> 00:13:20,640 Speaker 1: with it being nine to eleven, which we already had 255 00:13:20,640 --> 00:13:24,840 Speaker 1: some other different conversations planned to mark that date. Nine 256 00:13:24,880 --> 00:13:27,400 Speaker 1: to eleven is the most significant event in American history, 257 00:13:27,440 --> 00:13:27,800 Speaker 1: isn't it? 258 00:13:28,880 --> 00:13:30,360 Speaker 2: I mean, Pearl Harbor's going to be the only one 259 00:13:30,400 --> 00:13:31,880 Speaker 2: that probably comes close. 260 00:13:32,600 --> 00:13:34,280 Speaker 3: Other than the founding of it. 261 00:13:34,400 --> 00:13:37,320 Speaker 1: You're right, I'm saying a single event in American history. 262 00:13:37,400 --> 00:13:40,600 Speaker 1: And you think about the change to America that has 263 00:13:40,600 --> 00:13:42,320 Speaker 1: happened over the last twenty four years. 264 00:13:43,280 --> 00:13:44,360 Speaker 2: You look at the. 265 00:13:44,280 --> 00:13:50,800 Speaker 1: Growth of government, the unraveling of civil liberties, the spy 266 00:13:51,040 --> 00:13:53,679 Speaker 1: state that we have entered, the biggest thing. Obviously, as 267 00:13:53,679 --> 00:13:56,720 Speaker 1: we laid out, we were under six trillion of debt 268 00:13:57,040 --> 00:14:00,720 Speaker 1: in twenty in two thousand and one. Nowaday, we're so 269 00:14:00,760 --> 00:14:04,680 Speaker 1: we are five times. Our debt has increased five times 270 00:14:04,720 --> 00:14:06,600 Speaker 1: in the past twenty four years what it was in 271 00:14:06,640 --> 00:14:10,960 Speaker 1: the previous two to twenty five. That's unbelievable. And so 272 00:14:11,040 --> 00:14:13,280 Speaker 1: in many ways, the terrorist accomplished probably more than they 273 00:14:13,280 --> 00:14:18,160 Speaker 1: could have ever imagined because the country was profoundly changed 274 00:14:18,160 --> 00:14:19,000 Speaker 1: for the long. 275 00:14:18,840 --> 00:14:20,160 Speaker 2: Term that day. 276 00:14:21,280 --> 00:14:24,240 Speaker 1: But and so when you federal that in, it has 277 00:14:24,280 --> 00:14:29,440 Speaker 1: to be I mean, obviously, Pearl Harbor thrust us into 278 00:14:29,480 --> 00:14:32,760 Speaker 1: World War Two. However, America came out of World War 279 00:14:32,800 --> 00:14:37,280 Speaker 1: Two the dominant superpower in the world, and would I 280 00:14:37,320 --> 00:14:40,240 Speaker 1: mean to some extent, certain extent, we remained that to 281 00:14:40,280 --> 00:14:43,120 Speaker 1: this day. So we came out of in a weird way. 282 00:14:43,360 --> 00:14:47,920 Speaker 1: We look, all the stuff that went on in Europe 283 00:14:47,960 --> 00:14:53,160 Speaker 1: was horrific, and we we stepped up as America always 284 00:14:53,160 --> 00:14:55,640 Speaker 1: does and freed millions of people and was the you know, 285 00:14:56,040 --> 00:15:00,920 Speaker 1: the just everything America has always been arcut itself came 286 00:15:00,960 --> 00:15:02,840 Speaker 1: out of World War Two, and you look at the 287 00:15:02,920 --> 00:15:05,080 Speaker 1: you know, the the boom of the fifties and sixty 288 00:15:05,120 --> 00:15:08,360 Speaker 1: I mean, a better country. I don't think you can 289 00:15:08,440 --> 00:15:10,480 Speaker 1: say that after nine to eleven. I think you can 290 00:15:10,520 --> 00:15:13,640 Speaker 1: say America became a better country post nine to eleven. 291 00:15:14,240 --> 00:15:16,920 Speaker 3: Well, there's a whole generation now that has grown up 292 00:15:18,000 --> 00:15:20,600 Speaker 3: in the shadow of nine to eleven. I wrote about 293 00:15:20,600 --> 00:15:25,920 Speaker 3: it back in twenty four when my daughter was graduating college. 294 00:15:26,480 --> 00:15:28,360 Speaker 3: And you think about some of the events that they've 295 00:15:28,440 --> 00:15:32,760 Speaker 3: experienced since nine to eleven. You know, you've got operation 296 00:15:32,880 --> 00:15:37,960 Speaker 3: and enduring freedom, the beginning of social media, smartphones all 297 00:15:38,000 --> 00:15:42,360 Speaker 3: came into our lives, but they've never known anything but that. 298 00:15:43,200 --> 00:15:49,360 Speaker 3: The Great Recession, government spending, which you've mentioned, the Sandy 299 00:15:49,360 --> 00:15:56,040 Speaker 3: Hook school shootings, and the social unrest, the twenty sixteen 300 00:15:56,120 --> 00:16:03,119 Speaker 3: presidential election, twenty twenty covid Panda, make protests on college campuses, 301 00:16:03,920 --> 00:16:11,400 Speaker 3: entering the workflorce with just staggering inflation. But yet and 302 00:16:11,760 --> 00:16:16,680 Speaker 3: now artificial intelligence here for them. 303 00:16:18,160 --> 00:16:21,080 Speaker 1: So all of that being said, nine to eleven has 304 00:16:21,280 --> 00:16:25,560 Speaker 1: got to be the most significant event in American history. 305 00:16:25,680 --> 00:16:27,840 Speaker 1: And you told me something that was wild, which is 306 00:16:28,240 --> 00:16:30,760 Speaker 1: all these years later, there are still lawsuits on going 307 00:16:30,760 --> 00:16:31,680 Speaker 1: involving nine to eleven. 308 00:16:32,320 --> 00:16:35,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, the families of nine to eleven victims, they held 309 00:16:35,120 --> 00:16:38,120 Speaker 3: a press conference yesterday and they were celebrating what they 310 00:16:38,160 --> 00:16:44,200 Speaker 3: called legal victory. A federal judge ruled that their case 311 00:16:44,320 --> 00:16:50,800 Speaker 3: may proceed to trial. And they're claiming that Saudi officials 312 00:16:50,840 --> 00:16:53,560 Speaker 3: assisted or supported the hijackers. 313 00:16:53,920 --> 00:16:55,200 Speaker 2: Well, so this is what said. 314 00:16:55,360 --> 00:16:57,440 Speaker 1: So you just took to the next part, which this 315 00:16:57,480 --> 00:17:00,200 Speaker 1: is what's interesting to me, and I'm never at well, 316 00:17:00,200 --> 00:17:03,600 Speaker 1: I have understood this, but let's work through itologically. Right, 317 00:17:04,640 --> 00:17:09,040 Speaker 1: So a bunch of these hijackers were from Saudi Arabia, 318 00:17:10,480 --> 00:17:14,440 Speaker 1: but for some reason, we didn't do anything to Saudi Arabia. 319 00:17:15,320 --> 00:17:20,119 Speaker 1: We invaded Afghanistan, who just a decade earlier we had 320 00:17:21,080 --> 00:17:24,920 Speaker 1: armed and propped up. And then our next step, after 321 00:17:24,960 --> 00:17:26,959 Speaker 1: we hadn't even won the war in Afghanistan, was to 322 00:17:26,960 --> 00:17:29,200 Speaker 1: invade Iraq that had nothing to do with nine to eleven. 323 00:17:29,640 --> 00:17:31,879 Speaker 1: And yet the country that had the most to do 324 00:17:32,000 --> 00:17:35,399 Speaker 1: arguably with nine to eleven, which is Saudi Arabia, not 325 00:17:35,480 --> 00:17:36,960 Speaker 1: only do we do nothing about. 326 00:17:36,800 --> 00:17:39,440 Speaker 2: But today we enjoy tight. 327 00:17:41,040 --> 00:17:46,640 Speaker 1: Economic relations with We prop them up, we have diplomatic 328 00:17:46,840 --> 00:17:51,320 Speaker 1: meetings with them, we welcome their investment in our country. 329 00:17:52,400 --> 00:17:55,840 Speaker 1: And yet they were the country that had arguably the 330 00:17:55,840 --> 00:17:57,159 Speaker 1: most to do with nine to eleven. 331 00:17:57,440 --> 00:18:00,000 Speaker 2: On what planet does that make sense? Case? 332 00:18:00,400 --> 00:18:04,040 Speaker 3: Yeah. One of the people who is part of this 333 00:18:04,160 --> 00:18:06,600 Speaker 3: lawsuit he lost his father on nine to eleven, and 334 00:18:06,640 --> 00:18:09,840 Speaker 3: he's claiming that at least thirteen Saudi officials were involved 335 00:18:09,840 --> 00:18:14,360 Speaker 3: in funneling support to the hijackers via embassies and consulates, 336 00:18:14,560 --> 00:18:18,359 Speaker 3: and two individuals were part of an advanced team to 337 00:18:18,520 --> 00:18:23,200 Speaker 3: aid al Qaeda. And now the case is likely heading 338 00:18:23,240 --> 00:18:26,959 Speaker 3: to trial the judge said that there are some facts 339 00:18:26,960 --> 00:18:31,479 Speaker 3: that remain disputed, but there is enough evidence to the 340 00:18:31,520 --> 00:18:32,520 Speaker 3: case that they were. 341 00:18:32,400 --> 00:18:36,520 Speaker 1: Totally from Saudi Arabia. There's yeah, it's a no brainer. 342 00:18:36,520 --> 00:18:38,640 Speaker 1: But this is the and you touched on the other 343 00:18:38,680 --> 00:18:41,240 Speaker 1: part of this. Nine to eleven was so much bigger 344 00:18:41,240 --> 00:18:43,639 Speaker 1: than nine to eleven in the sense of the trillions 345 00:18:43,640 --> 00:18:46,080 Speaker 1: of dollars that we wasted in foreign countries, which is 346 00:18:46,080 --> 00:18:48,320 Speaker 1: what it's got to be at this point in this 347 00:18:49,200 --> 00:18:53,440 Speaker 1: supposed war on terror and all the lives between Afghanistan 348 00:18:53,720 --> 00:18:59,679 Speaker 1: and Iraq that were completely ruined for zero reason. Not 349 00:18:59,720 --> 00:19:02,320 Speaker 1: to say those people weren't heroic in their efforts to 350 00:19:02,359 --> 00:19:04,320 Speaker 1: in any way say that the people who fought over 351 00:19:04,359 --> 00:19:06,959 Speaker 1: there aren't the bravest and best amongst us. 352 00:19:06,960 --> 00:19:07,960 Speaker 2: I'm not saying that. 353 00:19:08,600 --> 00:19:10,919 Speaker 1: I'm saying when you look at there was zero reason 354 00:19:11,000 --> 00:19:13,240 Speaker 1: for any any possible reason to be in Iraq. 355 00:19:13,320 --> 00:19:14,000 Speaker 2: That was a just. 356 00:19:14,840 --> 00:19:20,960 Speaker 1: Don't want one guy's one guy's I'll be gotten revenge 357 00:19:21,040 --> 00:19:27,080 Speaker 1: tour coupled with the military industrial complex, and then Afghanistan, 358 00:19:28,080 --> 00:19:31,800 Speaker 1: well we just gave it away, and those barbarians are 359 00:19:31,800 --> 00:19:34,520 Speaker 1: back in charge again running the place. Not the same 360 00:19:34,920 --> 00:19:37,720 Speaker 1: same group of people so what was that all about. Yeah, 361 00:19:37,800 --> 00:19:39,920 Speaker 1: look at how we went out the door in Afghanistan 362 00:19:40,400 --> 00:19:44,320 Speaker 1: with thirteen soldiers being killed needlessly. 363 00:19:43,960 --> 00:19:48,600 Speaker 3: And I believe the Secretary of War Pete Hegseeth said 364 00:19:48,640 --> 00:19:50,560 Speaker 3: that they're investigating that now. 365 00:19:50,760 --> 00:19:53,040 Speaker 1: Oh great, Well, I'm sure they'll get right to the 366 00:19:53,080 --> 00:19:54,720 Speaker 1: bottom of that, just like they've gotten right to the 367 00:19:54,720 --> 00:19:57,240 Speaker 1: bottom of everything. So my point in all this, though, 368 00:19:57,320 --> 00:20:00,720 Speaker 1: is it's just important to remind everybody even though while 369 00:20:00,720 --> 00:20:03,480 Speaker 1: our government is horrible and they blew everything as they 370 00:20:03,520 --> 00:20:06,160 Speaker 1: always do, there were many heroes on nine to eleven. 371 00:20:06,200 --> 00:20:08,320 Speaker 1: There were many people who stepped up. There were many 372 00:20:08,320 --> 00:20:11,320 Speaker 1: people who gave their lives so that other people might live, 373 00:20:11,320 --> 00:20:13,879 Speaker 1: who kept running back into danger, who kept trying to 374 00:20:13,920 --> 00:20:16,240 Speaker 1: direct people to safety. You hear those stories of people 375 00:20:16,280 --> 00:20:18,359 Speaker 1: kept going back in the buildings over and over and 376 00:20:18,400 --> 00:20:20,320 Speaker 1: at any point they'd gotten out, they'd be, you know, 377 00:20:20,359 --> 00:20:24,600 Speaker 1: maybe alive today. And so just just remember those people today, 378 00:20:24,640 --> 00:20:27,760 Speaker 1: because while our government is often the worst, amongst us 379 00:20:28,240 --> 00:20:31,040 Speaker 1: are the people. The people this country are the best. 380 00:20:31,359 --> 00:20:33,959 Speaker 3: You're listening to Kettle and Casey. It is ninety three, 381 00:20:34,040 --> 00:20:37,119 Speaker 3: WIBC is weird. 382 00:20:38,480 --> 00:20:40,280 Speaker 2: Your house is weet. 383 00:20:42,080 --> 00:20:54,320 Speaker 5: For you, But you Casey I think I've solved all 384 00:20:54,359 --> 00:20:55,560 Speaker 5: of your life's problems. 385 00:20:55,600 --> 00:20:57,600 Speaker 2: Oh good, you do not know what I'm about. Two 386 00:20:57,600 --> 00:21:00,320 Speaker 2: percent to ye came today, this is this is the 387 00:21:00,359 --> 00:21:02,200 Speaker 2: thing for you. It's kenn and Casey Show and Rob. 388 00:21:02,200 --> 00:21:02,760 Speaker 2: That's Casey. 389 00:21:04,240 --> 00:21:06,880 Speaker 1: People now, according to The Wall Street Journal, are solving 390 00:21:06,920 --> 00:21:12,040 Speaker 1: their hectic life by hiring their own executive assistant. 391 00:21:12,119 --> 00:21:15,920 Speaker 3: Oh hey, someone who does all your stuff? 392 00:21:16,040 --> 00:21:16,320 Speaker 2: Right? 393 00:21:16,520 --> 00:21:17,480 Speaker 3: How much are they paying? 394 00:21:17,560 --> 00:21:20,080 Speaker 1: The little tag line says, regular people are selling out 395 00:21:20,080 --> 00:21:24,879 Speaker 1: executive assistants to balance work, home and their kids crazy schedules. 396 00:21:25,119 --> 00:21:27,200 Speaker 2: Okay, wait, wait, wait now, now. 397 00:21:27,119 --> 00:21:30,040 Speaker 3: It does feel like you need some help. Sometimes you 398 00:21:30,080 --> 00:21:33,280 Speaker 3: know you've got so much to do. Here's my problem, 399 00:21:33,359 --> 00:21:34,720 Speaker 3: got a long way to go and a short time 400 00:21:34,760 --> 00:21:35,200 Speaker 3: to get there. 401 00:21:35,280 --> 00:21:37,720 Speaker 1: You will back me up on this. I like things 402 00:21:37,760 --> 00:21:39,640 Speaker 1: done in a very particular way. 403 00:21:39,720 --> 00:21:42,480 Speaker 3: Yes, don't, so you wouldn't be able to delegate it out. 404 00:21:42,840 --> 00:21:44,840 Speaker 2: I don't need I don't need much. 405 00:21:45,040 --> 00:21:47,280 Speaker 1: And I think I'm a total minimalist, right Like I 406 00:21:47,800 --> 00:21:51,080 Speaker 1: don't collect things, I don't have hobbies, I don't ask 407 00:21:51,160 --> 00:21:53,359 Speaker 1: things of people, like I have very few things. But 408 00:21:53,720 --> 00:21:55,600 Speaker 1: like the things that I just need them done in 409 00:21:55,640 --> 00:21:58,000 Speaker 1: a certain way, and it would be very frustrating to 410 00:21:58,080 --> 00:22:00,879 Speaker 1: me having to explain how I want the thing's done, 411 00:22:01,200 --> 00:22:04,200 Speaker 1: because inevitably it wouldn't be done that way. And I'm 412 00:22:04,200 --> 00:22:08,040 Speaker 1: also too impulsive to just have some person that needs everything, 413 00:22:08,680 --> 00:22:10,200 Speaker 1: you know, to try to plan everything out. 414 00:22:10,359 --> 00:22:14,720 Speaker 3: You got to trade them once, put them through the 415 00:22:14,760 --> 00:22:17,720 Speaker 3: one time Rob Kendall training and make it very clear 416 00:22:18,119 --> 00:22:20,600 Speaker 3: how specific you are, and then you're good. 417 00:22:20,720 --> 00:22:22,679 Speaker 2: Like I don't like my stuff being to touch you 418 00:22:22,680 --> 00:22:23,119 Speaker 2: know how I am. 419 00:22:23,160 --> 00:22:25,639 Speaker 1: I'm very very easy here, but when things are not 420 00:22:25,680 --> 00:22:29,200 Speaker 1: put back, like for example, and this was nobody's fault, 421 00:22:29,240 --> 00:22:32,159 Speaker 1: but they mislabeled that. They didn't change the label on 422 00:22:32,240 --> 00:22:35,160 Speaker 1: the show today, and it has bothered me all day, 423 00:22:35,200 --> 00:22:37,040 Speaker 1: Like I've just looked at that and it just ate 424 00:22:37,080 --> 00:22:39,399 Speaker 1: at me all day because it's not that thing is 425 00:22:39,400 --> 00:22:40,680 Speaker 1: not it's the OCD righty. 426 00:22:40,840 --> 00:22:43,280 Speaker 2: It's not handled it very well. It's not only brought 427 00:22:43,280 --> 00:22:44,120 Speaker 2: it up for me well. 428 00:22:44,240 --> 00:22:46,119 Speaker 1: I told Kevin, was like, Kevin, please tell me you 429 00:22:46,119 --> 00:22:47,960 Speaker 1: can change the title of the show once the show's over. 430 00:22:48,000 --> 00:22:50,080 Speaker 1: So people, we got all these hits today, I don't 431 00:22:50,080 --> 00:22:51,840 Speaker 1: want them going to Tony Katz. I don't want Tony 432 00:22:51,840 --> 00:22:53,840 Speaker 1: gets getting any credit for any of this. And it's 433 00:22:53,840 --> 00:22:55,960 Speaker 1: just yed at me all day. So I'm very particular 434 00:22:55,960 --> 00:22:58,840 Speaker 1: about like the way things are situated, when things don't work, 435 00:22:58,880 --> 00:23:02,520 Speaker 1: when that computer it's so loud. I just don't feel 436 00:23:02,520 --> 00:23:04,879 Speaker 1: like an executive asistant would understand all of that and 437 00:23:05,000 --> 00:23:06,919 Speaker 1: the time would take to explain that to them. 438 00:23:06,960 --> 00:23:09,920 Speaker 2: But my life is not that busy, Like do you. 439 00:23:09,920 --> 00:23:12,080 Speaker 3: Need an executive assistant? 440 00:23:12,560 --> 00:23:14,160 Speaker 1: I mean, my life is basically the same every day. 441 00:23:14,600 --> 00:23:17,879 Speaker 1: I get up, I go to work, I come home. 442 00:23:18,160 --> 00:23:19,560 Speaker 1: I got like three or four hours. I get my 443 00:23:19,640 --> 00:23:21,760 Speaker 1: kid from daycare, I play with her for several hours. 444 00:23:21,840 --> 00:23:24,080 Speaker 1: She goes to bed, wife and I spend some time together. 445 00:23:24,480 --> 00:23:27,080 Speaker 1: We go to bed, Like like, I cant. 446 00:23:27,040 --> 00:23:32,200 Speaker 3: Understand where there's you know, working parents who have multiple 447 00:23:32,520 --> 00:23:36,960 Speaker 3: teenagers and all of their different school events and sports 448 00:23:37,040 --> 00:23:41,280 Speaker 3: and whatever extracurricular activity they're into. 449 00:23:41,680 --> 00:23:43,320 Speaker 2: What are you the Brady bunch? How many kids do 450 00:23:43,400 --> 00:23:43,680 Speaker 2: you have? 451 00:23:44,000 --> 00:23:44,040 Speaker 3: You? 452 00:23:44,200 --> 00:23:45,600 Speaker 2: I only have one? All right? 453 00:23:46,440 --> 00:23:52,000 Speaker 3: I understand how busy people are, and I guess if 454 00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:55,040 Speaker 3: you have the means knock yourself out, you don't need 455 00:23:55,080 --> 00:23:57,400 Speaker 3: a little help. Isn't that what grandparents are for? Though, 456 00:23:57,760 --> 00:24:01,040 Speaker 3: speaking of kids, shouldn't they be the one to help. 457 00:24:01,040 --> 00:24:03,200 Speaker 1: Okay, So speaking of kids, help me out on this. 458 00:24:04,080 --> 00:24:07,720 Speaker 1: So Livy and I we go to the same playground 459 00:24:08,119 --> 00:24:10,440 Speaker 1: most days. It's perfect. It's for little kids, and there's 460 00:24:10,440 --> 00:24:14,080 Speaker 1: almost never anyone there. And every day we walk past 461 00:24:14,119 --> 00:24:17,000 Speaker 1: this large the like last empty patch of grass left 462 00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:19,000 Speaker 1: in the entire town of Brownsburg. I think the school 463 00:24:19,000 --> 00:24:22,840 Speaker 1: owns it, and there's always some sort of football team 464 00:24:22,960 --> 00:24:25,800 Speaker 1: or something having their practice there. And every time I'll 465 00:24:25,840 --> 00:24:27,720 Speaker 1: walk by, you know, I've got her into wagon and 466 00:24:27,720 --> 00:24:29,560 Speaker 1: I'm pulling her and I can see from across the 467 00:24:29,560 --> 00:24:31,520 Speaker 1: street there's all these parents there that are you know, 468 00:24:31,560 --> 00:24:34,040 Speaker 1: their kids are in practice, but none of them are 469 00:24:34,040 --> 00:24:36,160 Speaker 1: looking at their kids. Now you can't see me here 470 00:24:36,280 --> 00:24:38,840 Speaker 1: unless you're on the YouTube chat. But what they're doing 471 00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:39,400 Speaker 1: is this. 472 00:24:39,560 --> 00:24:40,520 Speaker 3: They're on their phone. 473 00:24:40,800 --> 00:24:45,359 Speaker 1: Like nobody's watching their kid anymore. It's just like, and 474 00:24:45,400 --> 00:24:49,160 Speaker 1: it's all of them. It's tablet phone. Don't you want 475 00:24:49,200 --> 00:24:52,280 Speaker 1: to watch your kid do the they're probably watching during 476 00:24:52,320 --> 00:24:54,679 Speaker 1: the game. This is practice. 477 00:24:55,880 --> 00:24:56,920 Speaker 2: Is that maybe they're. 478 00:24:56,720 --> 00:24:59,359 Speaker 3: Working, it's stuff to do. Maybe they need an executive? 479 00:24:59,640 --> 00:25:01,480 Speaker 1: Is that a me thing that I think that's very 480 00:25:01,480 --> 00:25:04,800 Speaker 1: strange that they're not like, if you're gonna do that, 481 00:25:04,800 --> 00:25:06,280 Speaker 1: why don't you just stay at home and then you know, 482 00:25:06,359 --> 00:25:07,399 Speaker 1: you know, you got to pick your kid up in 483 00:25:07,400 --> 00:25:09,560 Speaker 1: an hour and a half. What's the point of being 484 00:25:09,560 --> 00:25:12,320 Speaker 1: there if you're just gonna not be watching your watching 485 00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:17,440 Speaker 1: your kid. You could say, Rob, that's weird, that's a 486 00:25:17,480 --> 00:25:18,560 Speaker 1: you thing, that's not weird. 487 00:25:18,920 --> 00:25:22,720 Speaker 2: Well, I mean, did you watch your kid at practice? Yeah? 488 00:25:22,840 --> 00:25:25,080 Speaker 2: Or you were Oh you were a head in phone person. 489 00:25:26,119 --> 00:25:27,840 Speaker 3: You were, weren't you phone? 490 00:25:28,720 --> 00:25:30,080 Speaker 5: I don't you know? 491 00:25:30,160 --> 00:25:32,639 Speaker 3: She played sports for so long when she was little. 492 00:25:32,680 --> 00:25:35,639 Speaker 3: I would go and watch the practice. As she got older, 493 00:25:36,280 --> 00:25:36,720 Speaker 3: I mean I. 494 00:25:36,680 --> 00:25:38,720 Speaker 2: Didn't Did you love your kid lest is that? Why not? 495 00:25:38,840 --> 00:25:40,440 Speaker 2: Every second watching? 496 00:25:41,080 --> 00:25:43,200 Speaker 3: And then she started driving herself. 497 00:25:42,840 --> 00:25:46,560 Speaker 2: So you didn't go anymore, not to the aways, wanted 498 00:25:46,560 --> 00:25:49,960 Speaker 2: to games. I was intently tuned in. Oh you were 499 00:25:49,960 --> 00:25:51,240 Speaker 2: that parent to all the actions. 500 00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:54,080 Speaker 1: I bet you were a scream at ref person because 501 00:25:54,080 --> 00:25:57,080 Speaker 1: you're so nice. Every nice person has a crazy streak 502 00:25:57,119 --> 00:25:59,119 Speaker 1: in them, and I bet yours came out at the sports. 503 00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:03,320 Speaker 3: Yeah. I was pretty involved. I wasn't like, I wasn't 504 00:26:03,359 --> 00:26:07,080 Speaker 3: angry about it. I did my fair share of cheering, though. 505 00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:09,520 Speaker 2: Cheering is that the word you're going with? Yes, very 506 00:26:09,520 --> 00:26:12,840 Speaker 2: good cheering. I knew it. I knew it. 507 00:26:13,080 --> 00:26:28,400 Speaker 3: You're listening to Kevil and Casey it is ninety three WIBC. 508 00:26:36,359 --> 00:26:36,920 Speaker 2: Well you okay. 509 00:26:37,080 --> 00:26:39,520 Speaker 6: We started our program by saying this is going to 510 00:26:39,560 --> 00:26:43,280 Speaker 6: be a much different show than what we normally do, 511 00:26:43,480 --> 00:26:46,680 Speaker 6: and it certainly has with both the assassination of Charlie 512 00:26:46,760 --> 00:26:49,000 Speaker 6: Kirk and then obviously this being the twenty fourth anniversary 513 00:26:49,040 --> 00:26:53,960 Speaker 6: of nine to eleven, and you know, like this business 514 00:26:54,000 --> 00:26:58,680 Speaker 6: that we're in is fascinating because there are few days 515 00:26:59,359 --> 00:27:01,960 Speaker 6: in our that I don't want to come to work, 516 00:27:02,800 --> 00:27:04,760 Speaker 6: and today was kind of one of those days because 517 00:27:05,520 --> 00:27:11,040 Speaker 6: it's just either the something horribly negative, like the assassination 518 00:27:11,080 --> 00:27:15,680 Speaker 6: of Charlie Kirk, which is just beyond description, and then 519 00:27:16,119 --> 00:27:21,879 Speaker 6: it's it's the remembrance of something super sad, sad. 520 00:27:21,680 --> 00:27:23,400 Speaker 2: Which is nine to eleven. 521 00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:26,439 Speaker 1: But you know, at least with nine to eleven that 522 00:27:26,520 --> 00:27:33,120 Speaker 1: you can find some solace in the reminder of the 523 00:27:33,160 --> 00:27:37,240 Speaker 1: heroic nature in which people were saved. Lives were saved. 524 00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:40,679 Speaker 1: Obviously the plane that went down in Pennsylvania, say, you know, 525 00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:42,840 Speaker 1: countless lives if indeed it was headed for the White House, 526 00:27:42,920 --> 00:27:45,919 Speaker 1: So you can find some good in that, even though 527 00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:49,320 Speaker 1: it's you know, the most horrific event in American history. 528 00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:51,560 Speaker 1: You can still say, look at the courage that people 529 00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:54,600 Speaker 1: showed that day. You can't you can't find any good 530 00:27:54,600 --> 00:27:56,720 Speaker 1: in the Charlie Kirk thing. You can't find any reason 531 00:27:56,720 --> 00:27:58,880 Speaker 1: in it. You can't find any anything to pull out 532 00:27:58,880 --> 00:28:02,960 Speaker 1: of it. And it's days like today. Thankfully they're few 533 00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:05,280 Speaker 1: and far between, but mann they're rough. 534 00:28:06,160 --> 00:28:09,600 Speaker 3: It is difficult. They do seem to be coming more frequently. 535 00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:13,760 Speaker 3: You know, when Donald Trump was shot in Butler, you 536 00:28:13,800 --> 00:28:18,400 Speaker 3: were looking for hope in it, and in that instance 537 00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:21,400 Speaker 3: we were given it because he got right back up 538 00:28:21,440 --> 00:28:24,359 Speaker 3: and raised his fist in the air and said fight, fight, fight, 539 00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:29,440 Speaker 3: And it was definitely a catalyst moment for a lot 540 00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:34,080 Speaker 3: of people. The sad part about the assassination of Charlie 541 00:28:34,160 --> 00:28:38,880 Speaker 3: Kirk is that we didn't have that immediate sign of hope. 542 00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:42,720 Speaker 3: And I think that's going to be up to us, 543 00:28:42,920 --> 00:28:48,600 Speaker 3: individually and collectively to pull each other up and give 544 00:28:48,640 --> 00:28:53,400 Speaker 3: each other hope. You know, rob patriots come with different accessories. 545 00:28:54,040 --> 00:28:57,440 Speaker 3: Some people have a uniform, some people have a badge, 546 00:28:58,440 --> 00:29:02,920 Speaker 3: some people have a microphone. And Charlie Kirk was a 547 00:29:02,960 --> 00:29:09,600 Speaker 3: patriot defending our First Amendment right freedom within free speech, 548 00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:13,640 Speaker 3: and as you mentioned, days like today are are hard 549 00:29:14,040 --> 00:29:16,959 Speaker 3: to try and make sense of it. And that's what 550 00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:19,440 Speaker 3: we do, that's what we get paid for to commentate 551 00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:25,080 Speaker 3: on situations like this. So I think that it is 552 00:29:25,240 --> 00:29:30,040 Speaker 3: up to us to carry on and defend that freedom, 553 00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:32,880 Speaker 3: that First Amendment. And I think it's up to our 554 00:29:32,920 --> 00:29:35,080 Speaker 3: listeners to help us do that. 555 00:29:35,480 --> 00:29:39,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, And I think that's the big struggle for a 556 00:29:39,120 --> 00:29:41,440 Speaker 1: lot of people. And my wife and I were talking 557 00:29:41,480 --> 00:29:46,640 Speaker 1: about this, and she was right last last night that 558 00:29:46,760 --> 00:29:49,120 Speaker 1: it's an assault on free speech. Because to me, I 559 00:29:49,160 --> 00:29:51,000 Speaker 1: look at it and go the guy was not. We 560 00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:53,120 Speaker 1: said this all the time about me. Right now, you're 561 00:29:53,160 --> 00:29:55,000 Speaker 1: the nice one on this show and everybody loves you. 562 00:29:56,480 --> 00:29:58,479 Speaker 1: It makes me worry for both of us well as 563 00:29:58,520 --> 00:30:00,960 Speaker 1: the residential villain of the Kindling Casey Show. I say 564 00:30:00,960 --> 00:30:04,160 Speaker 1: this all the time. The heat I get it comes 565 00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:06,000 Speaker 1: with the territory. It's fine, it doesn't bother me. But 566 00:30:07,280 --> 00:30:11,600 Speaker 1: I'm not an elected person. I can't affect anybody. I 567 00:30:11,600 --> 00:30:15,280 Speaker 1: have no power over anyone. If you hate me, you 568 00:30:15,320 --> 00:30:17,320 Speaker 1: can turn me off, and I don't exist in your world. 569 00:30:17,360 --> 00:30:19,280 Speaker 1: You can block me, you can not turn on the radio. 570 00:30:19,680 --> 00:30:21,760 Speaker 1: And so for the Charlie Kirk thing, it's the same thing. 571 00:30:21,760 --> 00:30:24,920 Speaker 1: It's like, this guy was not the president. It wasn't 572 00:30:24,920 --> 00:30:26,360 Speaker 1: a senator, he wasn't a governor. 573 00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:30,160 Speaker 3: He was just some guy creating dialogue. 574 00:30:30,280 --> 00:30:32,720 Speaker 2: Who yeah, he went on college campus. Is he a podcast? 575 00:30:32,800 --> 00:30:34,920 Speaker 1: Radio show? You had all those sorts of things. But 576 00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:38,080 Speaker 1: nobody was forced into anything Charlie Kirk that didn't choose 577 00:30:38,120 --> 00:30:41,440 Speaker 1: to subject themselves to it. And that's what I struggled. 578 00:30:41,480 --> 00:30:41,600 Speaker 6: Then. 579 00:30:41,600 --> 00:30:43,440 Speaker 2: That's why my wife she said, no, you have to understand, 580 00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:45,560 Speaker 2: it's an assault on free speech. It's not an assault. 581 00:30:45,600 --> 00:30:47,240 Speaker 2: It was an assault on Charlie Kirk. 582 00:30:47,640 --> 00:30:47,880 Speaker 3: But. 583 00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:52,560 Speaker 2: You know it was. That's what people need to take 584 00:30:52,600 --> 00:30:53,080 Speaker 2: away from him. 585 00:30:53,080 --> 00:30:55,200 Speaker 1: That's the thing that needs to be the lasting legacy 586 00:30:55,240 --> 00:30:57,640 Speaker 1: is free speech is under attack in this country because 587 00:30:58,120 --> 00:31:00,160 Speaker 1: Charlie Kirk and I talked with the Hammer Nige about this 588 00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:01,800 Speaker 1: last night. I know we touched on throughout the course 589 00:31:01,800 --> 00:31:05,680 Speaker 1: of the show today. He was never off the rails. 590 00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:08,760 Speaker 1: Is there a fraction of you know what I do? 591 00:31:08,840 --> 00:31:13,720 Speaker 3: He was never you know, he openly publicly and respectfully 592 00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:17,680 Speaker 3: debated his opinions, and he did that with people who 593 00:31:17,720 --> 00:31:20,080 Speaker 3: disagreed with them. But at the end of the day, 594 00:31:20,120 --> 00:31:23,680 Speaker 3: he was still just a commentator. You know. He did 595 00:31:23,760 --> 00:31:26,360 Speaker 3: it to prove that free speech was real, it was 596 00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:30,080 Speaker 3: worth defending. He did it on college campuses where you're 597 00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:33,880 Speaker 3: supposed to have open dialogue, a place where you go 598 00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:39,680 Speaker 3: to learn and debate ideas. And it's it happened at 599 00:31:39,760 --> 00:31:43,920 Speaker 3: the start of another collegiate school year. And it rob 600 00:31:43,960 --> 00:31:45,760 Speaker 3: it doesn't matter what side you're on with this. 601 00:31:46,040 --> 00:31:47,000 Speaker 2: This is bad. 602 00:31:47,800 --> 00:31:53,080 Speaker 3: It's sad. Political violence should be condemned in all arenas. 603 00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:58,160 Speaker 3: And it's a very dark road to try and normalize violence. 604 00:31:58,360 --> 00:31:59,920 Speaker 2: And it's also quite terrifying. 605 00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:04,239 Speaker 3: And there are many people who are hurting today for 606 00:32:04,480 --> 00:32:12,440 Speaker 3: various reasons. And I just we as people, as humans, 607 00:32:12,480 --> 00:32:16,000 Speaker 3: for the sake of humanity, we have got to lift 608 00:32:16,080 --> 00:32:20,280 Speaker 3: each other up instead of taking each other down. 609 00:32:21,040 --> 00:32:25,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, and so, but we will go out today. We're 610 00:32:25,600 --> 00:32:27,719 Speaker 2: not I'm not going to leave you with that. 611 00:32:28,160 --> 00:32:29,600 Speaker 1: I will leave you with this because it's also the 612 00:32:29,600 --> 00:32:31,520 Speaker 1: twenty fourth anniversary of nine to eleven. We've talked about 613 00:32:31,520 --> 00:32:36,600 Speaker 1: that link throughout the show today that our country while 614 00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:40,040 Speaker 1: the horrible actors get amplified, whether it's the guy on 615 00:32:40,440 --> 00:32:46,040 Speaker 1: the subway in Charlotte or or it's this horrific act 616 00:32:46,040 --> 00:32:50,000 Speaker 1: on Charlie Kirk. Like in the internet society, this is 617 00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:54,000 Speaker 1: what gets dominated, gets amplified. But I still believe that 618 00:32:54,040 --> 00:32:57,200 Speaker 1: the vast majority of people in this country are more 619 00:32:57,880 --> 00:33:01,640 Speaker 1: the firefighters, the police officer users, the people on the 620 00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:05,560 Speaker 1: plane in Pennsylvania of nine to eleven, the heroes, the 621 00:33:05,560 --> 00:33:10,000 Speaker 1: people at the Pentagon, that that's the overwhelming. 622 00:33:09,280 --> 00:33:10,760 Speaker 2: Majority of us. 623 00:33:11,160 --> 00:33:14,440 Speaker 1: And so, you know, one of the challenges has to be, 624 00:33:16,080 --> 00:33:19,600 Speaker 1: how do we build a world where those are the 625 00:33:19,640 --> 00:33:21,880 Speaker 1: people that get showcased and amplified. Because you're right, it'll 626 00:33:21,880 --> 00:33:25,680 Speaker 1: suck you into a vortex of it's all over, right, 627 00:33:25,800 --> 00:33:29,560 Speaker 1: it's all you know, it's just this. But it's not 628 00:33:30,600 --> 00:33:33,160 Speaker 1: and it's not going to bring Charlie Kirk back. And 629 00:33:33,240 --> 00:33:36,320 Speaker 1: obviously the events of nine to eleven, the three thousand 630 00:33:36,360 --> 00:33:38,840 Speaker 1: people who tragically died on nine to eleven, are not 631 00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:43,520 Speaker 1: coming back. But if we remember and keep front and center, 632 00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:48,640 Speaker 1: like you said, the ideals of Charlie Kirk, which takes 633 00:33:48,680 --> 00:33:50,520 Speaker 1: politics out of the equation. The ideals of Charlie Kirk 634 00:33:50,560 --> 00:33:53,000 Speaker 1: were free speech matters, and you have a voice, and 635 00:33:53,040 --> 00:33:55,600 Speaker 1: you have a right to your opinion as long as 636 00:33:55,600 --> 00:33:58,440 Speaker 1: you don't harm other people. And if you think about 637 00:33:58,520 --> 00:34:00,959 Speaker 1: those ideals and what he stood and carry that with 638 00:34:01,040 --> 00:34:03,560 Speaker 1: you throughout the course of today, and the ideals of 639 00:34:03,600 --> 00:34:06,120 Speaker 1: the people and the heroes on nine to eleven, whether 640 00:34:06,160 --> 00:34:08,000 Speaker 1: it was in the Twin Towers or the Pentagon or 641 00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:10,640 Speaker 1: the plane or whatever, that that is our country. And 642 00:34:10,719 --> 00:34:13,040 Speaker 1: I still think that's our country, and I still think 643 00:34:13,239 --> 00:34:16,319 Speaker 1: that we have to work to elevate those types of 644 00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:19,960 Speaker 1: people so that we don't end up in this spiraling 645 00:34:20,040 --> 00:34:23,919 Speaker 1: vortex of it's all over and everything's gone to hell, 646 00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:27,600 Speaker 1: and there have to be things worth fighting for. And 647 00:34:27,680 --> 00:34:30,920 Speaker 1: those ideals and those people are the concert reminders that 648 00:34:30,960 --> 00:34:32,719 Speaker 1: this country remains worth fighting for. 649 00:34:34,400 --> 00:34:36,399 Speaker 2: I'll take it out. It's fine. We want to thank 650 00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:37,800 Speaker 2: you for listening today. 651 00:34:38,400 --> 00:34:40,360 Speaker 1: We want to thank Kevin is always for doing a 652 00:34:40,360 --> 00:34:43,080 Speaker 1: great job, Casey, great job, and most importantly, as always, Look, 653 00:34:43,160 --> 00:34:45,480 Speaker 1: I want to say this, thank you to you, our listeners. 654 00:34:45,880 --> 00:34:46,880 Speaker 2: We love you. 655 00:34:46,960 --> 00:34:49,080 Speaker 1: And I must speak for Casey on this, and I 656 00:34:49,120 --> 00:34:52,359 Speaker 1: think she'll agree with me. We do this because of you. 657 00:34:53,200 --> 00:34:57,279 Speaker 1: We love you. We want to be your voice. We're 658 00:34:57,320 --> 00:34:59,520 Speaker 1: willing to be bold and to be brash and say 659 00:34:59,520 --> 00:35:02,000 Speaker 1: the things that we say because you deserve a voice, 660 00:35:02,719 --> 00:35:07,840 Speaker 1: and don't let fear get you. You keep speaking out, 661 00:35:07,920 --> 00:35:09,440 Speaker 1: you keep speaking up. 662 00:35:09,840 --> 00:35:12,279 Speaker 2: That's what guys like Charlie Kirk would have won. And 663 00:35:12,360 --> 00:35:14,799 Speaker 2: we'll keep doing it here, you keep doing it at home, 664 00:35:14,960 --> 00:35:16,839 Speaker 2: and we'll see it tomorrow. It's Kenell and Casey Show 665 00:35:16,880 --> 00:35:18,000 Speaker 2: ninety three WIBC.