1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:06,160 Speaker 1: You just gotta ask yourself, why why would she do it? 2 00:00:06,400 --> 00:00:08,480 Speaker 2: There has to be a reason behind It. 3 00:00:08,280 --> 00:00:09,760 Speaker 3: Doesn't make any sense on the surface. 4 00:00:09,960 --> 00:00:12,760 Speaker 1: So Susie Wilds, who is Donald Trump's chief of staff, 5 00:00:12,800 --> 00:00:16,400 Speaker 1: she gave a very detailed interview with Vanity Fair, a 6 00:00:16,440 --> 00:00:20,200 Speaker 1: publication that I would say it's not friendly towards Republicans 7 00:00:20,200 --> 00:00:23,280 Speaker 1: at all. Put it lightly, and she was very critical 8 00:00:23,400 --> 00:00:25,880 Speaker 1: of not only the president, but also the Vice president, 9 00:00:25,960 --> 00:00:28,680 Speaker 1: the Attorney General, and other people in the cabinet. You 10 00:00:28,680 --> 00:00:32,800 Speaker 1: did get some very glossy photos out of the article, 11 00:00:34,000 --> 00:00:36,360 Speaker 1: which were interesting on their own. 12 00:00:36,400 --> 00:00:38,840 Speaker 3: The photos they released of Susie Wylde that they took 13 00:00:38,880 --> 00:00:42,440 Speaker 3: for this art are unflattering, is a kind way of 14 00:00:42,479 --> 00:00:43,520 Speaker 3: putting it. Unflattering. 15 00:00:44,040 --> 00:00:45,639 Speaker 1: She not know the camera was going to be on her. 16 00:00:46,080 --> 00:00:49,000 Speaker 1: She knew she was posing for these pictures, but her 17 00:00:49,040 --> 00:00:52,199 Speaker 1: eyes were wide open. Well for every photo of her, 18 00:00:52,320 --> 00:00:53,840 Speaker 1: she's looking like she's nervous, And the. 19 00:00:53,760 --> 00:00:57,120 Speaker 3: Ones that I saw, they were extreme close ups. My 20 00:00:57,160 --> 00:00:59,040 Speaker 3: guess is they took a wide shot and then just 21 00:00:59,120 --> 00:01:01,480 Speaker 3: cropped it into where it's nothing but her face. 22 00:01:01,640 --> 00:01:04,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I feel like that was Vanity Fair doing 23 00:01:04,160 --> 00:01:05,360 Speaker 1: that intentionally. 24 00:01:05,720 --> 00:01:07,920 Speaker 3: Of course, did you see the pictures they used when 25 00:01:07,959 --> 00:01:10,400 Speaker 3: they interviewed Kareeine Jean Pierre and did the big profile 26 00:01:10,440 --> 00:01:12,760 Speaker 3: piece on her. Oh, she's looking lovely. She's in a 27 00:01:12,800 --> 00:01:15,160 Speaker 3: red pants suit in front of the White House. The 28 00:01:15,200 --> 00:01:17,000 Speaker 3: pictures are very flattering of her. 29 00:01:17,200 --> 00:01:20,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, but of Susie Wilds and everybody else, it's not 30 00:01:20,720 --> 00:01:24,800 Speaker 1: quite as flattering. In the interview, she described Trump as 31 00:01:24,840 --> 00:01:29,800 Speaker 1: having an alcoholics personality, and she compared his traits to 32 00:01:29,840 --> 00:01:34,040 Speaker 1: her late father. And we all know that Donald Trump 33 00:01:34,080 --> 00:01:36,880 Speaker 1: doesn't drink though, so that's interesting. 34 00:01:37,040 --> 00:01:38,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, I got to say that. I think what she's 35 00:01:38,760 --> 00:01:41,800 Speaker 3: trying to say is, look, alcoholics have these sorts of 36 00:01:41,840 --> 00:01:45,920 Speaker 3: personality traits. Donald Trump shares those even though he doesn't 37 00:01:45,959 --> 00:01:47,560 Speaker 3: drink at all. I think that's where she was getting 38 00:01:47,560 --> 00:01:48,000 Speaker 3: at with that. 39 00:01:48,120 --> 00:01:52,000 Speaker 1: She also criticized Elon Musk, called him an odd odd duck, 40 00:01:53,360 --> 00:01:59,920 Speaker 1: said that Jade Vance was into conspiracy theories and Jadvan 41 00:02:00,240 --> 00:02:03,000 Speaker 1: was making light of it, and he said that, yeah, 42 00:02:03,360 --> 00:02:06,640 Speaker 1: I only believe in the conspiracy theories that are true though. 43 00:02:07,360 --> 00:02:08,040 Speaker 3: Good response. 44 00:02:08,200 --> 00:02:09,320 Speaker 2: Yeah. 45 00:02:09,480 --> 00:02:13,359 Speaker 1: She said that Pam Bondy whiffed on the Epstein files, 46 00:02:13,400 --> 00:02:14,640 Speaker 1: called it debacle. 47 00:02:14,840 --> 00:02:17,160 Speaker 3: He nailed that one. She's not the first person to say. 48 00:02:16,960 --> 00:02:21,160 Speaker 1: That denied speculation that Trump would try and defy the 49 00:02:21,200 --> 00:02:26,360 Speaker 1: twenty second Amendment, and she then afterwards called it a 50 00:02:26,480 --> 00:02:29,799 Speaker 1: disingenuously framed hit piece. 51 00:02:30,240 --> 00:02:32,240 Speaker 2: Well, she had to know that going in. 52 00:02:32,320 --> 00:02:34,880 Speaker 3: What did you think you were gonna get? Vanity Fair 53 00:02:34,960 --> 00:02:39,720 Speaker 3: hates your guts. The this just makes everything about this 54 00:02:39,880 --> 00:02:43,320 Speaker 3: makes no sense. Starting with Susie Wilds. She has been 55 00:02:43,600 --> 00:02:46,920 Speaker 3: the quietest out of all the cabinet members since the 56 00:02:46,919 --> 00:02:49,799 Speaker 3: Trump administration started. I haven't heard a word from her. 57 00:02:50,120 --> 00:02:51,160 Speaker 2: So there was talk. 58 00:02:51,600 --> 00:02:55,839 Speaker 1: This was like last week. The past ten days, there 59 00:02:55,840 --> 00:02:59,200 Speaker 1: were rumblings that Donald Trump is going to be shaken 60 00:02:59,320 --> 00:03:02,320 Speaker 1: up as cab and Pam Bondi was on. 61 00:03:02,320 --> 00:03:05,440 Speaker 3: The bubble, Bongino were out. 62 00:03:06,000 --> 00:03:08,480 Speaker 1: And then there was word that Susie Wiles was maybe 63 00:03:08,520 --> 00:03:12,360 Speaker 1: going to be shown the door. And then this article 64 00:03:12,480 --> 00:03:16,400 Speaker 1: comes out in Vanity Fair and now Donald Trump is 65 00:03:16,440 --> 00:03:20,560 Speaker 1: turned around and started defending her. Look, so is this 66 00:03:20,600 --> 00:03:24,360 Speaker 1: all planned? Is this premeditated? Oh, people are speculating that 67 00:03:24,400 --> 00:03:26,760 Speaker 1: we're going to get fired or we're we're going to 68 00:03:26,800 --> 00:03:30,440 Speaker 1: be let go. Well let's do this very salacious article. 69 00:03:31,000 --> 00:03:34,120 Speaker 1: They may take parts of it out of context. And 70 00:03:34,160 --> 00:03:36,240 Speaker 1: now Donald Trump is defending his cabinet. 71 00:03:36,280 --> 00:03:38,400 Speaker 3: Look, Trump is not dumb, and in fact, he is 72 00:03:38,400 --> 00:03:41,960 Speaker 3: an extraordinarily smart man. He is extremely strategic, and he 73 00:03:42,040 --> 00:03:46,200 Speaker 3: knows better than any politician in US history how to 74 00:03:46,360 --> 00:03:48,320 Speaker 3: work the media in this country. 75 00:03:48,440 --> 00:03:49,200 Speaker 2: Uh huh. 76 00:03:49,200 --> 00:03:52,840 Speaker 3: So I'm going because he's got this incredible track record 77 00:03:53,080 --> 00:03:55,840 Speaker 3: of being able to manipulate the media for his own benefit, 78 00:03:56,200 --> 00:03:57,760 Speaker 3: I'm going to kind of give him the benefit of 79 00:03:57,840 --> 00:04:00,640 Speaker 3: doubt on this one. But on the surface, it looks 80 00:04:00,680 --> 00:04:06,480 Speaker 3: like that this has just an internally dysfunctional disaster from 81 00:04:06,480 --> 00:04:08,760 Speaker 3: a communication standpoint from the Trump administration. 82 00:04:09,040 --> 00:04:12,880 Speaker 1: So Susie Wilds, she's known to be savvy and very deliberate. 83 00:04:13,360 --> 00:04:15,680 Speaker 2: She knows how media access works. 84 00:04:16,360 --> 00:04:21,640 Speaker 1: And you have to imagine, was this a diversion because 85 00:04:21,760 --> 00:04:24,640 Speaker 1: this is coming out at a time when Donald Trump 86 00:04:24,680 --> 00:04:28,760 Speaker 1: is getting some bad headlines. You know, you've got rising unemployment, 87 00:04:29,200 --> 00:04:35,080 Speaker 1: his approval ratings have been dropping, under performance in things 88 00:04:35,200 --> 00:04:37,600 Speaker 1: like redistricting. 89 00:04:36,880 --> 00:04:40,039 Speaker 3: And like you said, a lot of the other secretaries 90 00:04:40,040 --> 00:04:42,920 Speaker 3: have come under fire, whether it's heg Seth or Patel 91 00:04:43,160 --> 00:04:46,599 Speaker 3: or Bongino or whoever, or Pam Bondi. Maybe this is 92 00:04:46,640 --> 00:04:48,000 Speaker 3: his way of saying, you know what, I'm going to 93 00:04:48,080 --> 00:04:50,800 Speaker 3: throw the best one. I've got Susie Wilds to the 94 00:04:50,839 --> 00:04:53,680 Speaker 3: wolves here as just a massive distraction to kind of 95 00:04:53,680 --> 00:04:55,080 Speaker 3: take some of the heat off the other guys in 96 00:04:55,120 --> 00:04:55,800 Speaker 3: the administration. 97 00:04:56,000 --> 00:04:58,159 Speaker 2: She's also been somewhat protected. 98 00:04:58,760 --> 00:05:02,400 Speaker 1: She hasn't been as out in front like other members 99 00:05:02,480 --> 00:05:06,640 Speaker 1: of his cabinet. Everybody knows who Pambondi is. Everybody knows 100 00:05:07,080 --> 00:05:12,120 Speaker 1: Dan Bongino and Cash, but tell Susie Wilds that name 101 00:05:12,279 --> 00:05:16,679 Speaker 1: hasn't been out there as much as Kennedy, for example, Rubio, 102 00:05:17,200 --> 00:05:21,040 Speaker 1: I mean, Susie Wilds just hasn't been as much as 103 00:05:21,080 --> 00:05:23,719 Speaker 1: the face of the administration as some of these other 104 00:05:23,760 --> 00:05:28,919 Speaker 1: people are. She's been protected, you see, unlike other chiefs 105 00:05:28,960 --> 00:05:31,040 Speaker 1: of staff who have been in the past. 106 00:05:31,120 --> 00:05:32,960 Speaker 3: Well yeah, I mean, look go back to Clinton's chief 107 00:05:32,960 --> 00:05:34,960 Speaker 3: of staff Ram Emanuel. I mean, he was one of 108 00:05:35,000 --> 00:05:36,480 Speaker 3: the more high profile. 109 00:05:36,120 --> 00:05:38,080 Speaker 2: Chief still trying to grab heav right. 110 00:05:37,960 --> 00:05:41,039 Speaker 3: In recent memory. But you're right, Susie Wilde has been 111 00:05:41,640 --> 00:05:45,119 Speaker 3: absolutely silent this entire time. She hasn't given anything. 112 00:05:45,200 --> 00:05:46,800 Speaker 1: So when she does speak, she's going to go to 113 00:05:46,880 --> 00:05:53,320 Speaker 1: Vanity Fair with this long expose and say things against 114 00:05:53,320 --> 00:05:54,240 Speaker 1: the administration. 115 00:05:54,720 --> 00:05:57,360 Speaker 3: None of it makes any sense. I'm going to assume 116 00:05:57,520 --> 00:06:00,560 Speaker 3: that This is Trump's intentionally doing this to create some 117 00:06:00,640 --> 00:06:02,880 Speaker 3: sort of distraction for other things that. 118 00:06:02,839 --> 00:06:07,440 Speaker 1: Are going on, because instead of rising prices and. 119 00:06:08,200 --> 00:06:11,640 Speaker 3: A loss in the Indiana redistricting fight. 120 00:06:11,640 --> 00:06:13,160 Speaker 2: Now we're talking about a Vanity Fair. 121 00:06:13,400 --> 00:06:16,080 Speaker 3: Now we're now we're talking about Vanity Fair for an 122 00:06:16,120 --> 00:06:18,680 Speaker 3: interview with a Cabinet secretary that nobody has spoken to 123 00:06:18,720 --> 00:06:19,280 Speaker 3: in advance of this. 124 00:06:19,680 --> 00:06:22,360 Speaker 2: Here's jd. Vance. He's commenting on the article. 125 00:06:24,040 --> 00:06:25,560 Speaker 4: And the last thing I'll say is if any of 126 00:06:25,640 --> 00:06:29,120 Speaker 4: us have learned a lesson from that Vanity Fair article, 127 00:06:29,680 --> 00:06:32,000 Speaker 4: I hope that the lesson is we should be giving 128 00:06:32,040 --> 00:06:34,160 Speaker 4: fewer interviews to mainstream media outlets. 129 00:06:35,000 --> 00:06:39,760 Speaker 1: So you would think that they knew that lesson already, 130 00:06:40,560 --> 00:06:41,760 Speaker 1: well follow it. 131 00:06:41,839 --> 00:06:45,239 Speaker 2: I mean, I mean the term fake news came from them. 132 00:06:45,760 --> 00:06:48,200 Speaker 3: But this is part of Trump's pattern too. Trump, you know, 133 00:06:48,360 --> 00:06:50,640 Speaker 3: has continually, whether it was his first term where he 134 00:06:50,640 --> 00:06:54,160 Speaker 3: gave the the exclusive interview to Bob Woodward that turned 135 00:06:54,160 --> 00:06:56,680 Speaker 3: out to be a total disaster, or Trump giving exclusive 136 00:06:56,680 --> 00:07:00,479 Speaker 3: interviews to CBS. He goes to these, you know, leftist 137 00:07:00,520 --> 00:07:04,040 Speaker 3: media organizations that he knows are going to trash him, 138 00:07:04,200 --> 00:07:06,200 Speaker 3: but he goes and does it anyway. And this time 139 00:07:06,360 --> 00:07:08,000 Speaker 3: he threw his chief of staff out there to do 140 00:07:08,040 --> 00:07:09,960 Speaker 2: It, and now he's defending her.