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Speaker 1: it gets real because it's number nine Illinois that is

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Speaker 1: next on the schedule. The game is a primetime matchup

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Speaker 1: seven thirty at night under the lights at Memorial Stadium.

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Speaker 1: Don Fisher will be on the radio call for it.

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Speaker 1: You can hear the game on this radio station. And

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Speaker 1: Don joins us now to discuss that and more. And Don,

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Speaker 1: let's begin with this. You know, seven point thirty on

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Speaker 1: a Saturday night against the top ten team at Memorial Stadium.

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Speaker 1: I guess we're becoming a little more used to this

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Speaker 2: No, it does not. It's special when you're on national TV.

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Speaker 2: You're the prime time schedule for that particular evening, and

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Speaker 2: without question, this is something Indiana has rarely if I

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Speaker 2: can't remember the last time we were on NBCTV, So

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Speaker 2: it's it's been a long time, Jake coming, and it's welcome. Obviously,

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Speaker 2: we're excited about it and everybody should be that's an

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 1: One of the things I was listening to the game

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Speaker 1: the young man of like, look, this kid's running hard.

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Speaker 1: You know, he's carrying the football, he's playing well. Now

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Speaker 1: Kobe Martin's one that we will rely on. Perhaps because

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Speaker 2: There, Well, I honestly believe that Kobe will be a

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Speaker 2: he's not played against in his two years in Indiana.

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Speaker 2: Last year he played in four games, then they red

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Speaker 2: he did not face the top ball clubs, or if

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Speaker 2: played against Nebraska in what a ballgame that you could

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Speaker 2: he's pretty when he's been in there. And there's no

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Speaker 2: And I don't think that's changed. And Sig said that

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Speaker 1: You know, Don, it's interesting because Don Fisher's our guest,

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Speaker 1: the voice of the Indiana Hoosiers. What you just mentioned,

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Speaker 1: just they methodically would just pull away from people by

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Speaker 2: There's no question that's what he's doing. And he's giving

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Speaker 2: to get more opportunities. And he did that last year

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Speaker 2: But the key here is that he's not totally inexperienced.

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Speaker 2: He's actually going to go in a ballgame knowing what

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Speaker 2: you know, last year they had so many games that

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Speaker 2: Alberto Mendoza got in last year and got to play

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Speaker 2: if you know what I mean. You're not going in

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Speaker 1: And man, I'll tell you, don you talk reputable to me.

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Speaker 1: The Big Ten slate is very for Indiana. It's really

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Speaker 2: Well, I still think that the quarterback position is a

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Speaker 2: Those are the things brilliant that concern me more than

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Speaker 1: Don have you gotten a chance much? Don Fisher our guest,

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Speaker 1: As if I need to sit you know, give that

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Speaker 1: you are the thirty six time Indiana sportscaster of the year.

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Speaker 1: Isn't that right? Close?

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Speaker 1: All right? Fair enough? So don have you gotten a

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Speaker 2: Sig is pretty Sig doesn't tell you much about the

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Speaker 2: I mean, they've had more they've had more good years

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Speaker 2: Where do we come up with that? Well, Brett Bielohma

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Speaker 2: is great for us. But nevertheless, Vilama has been building

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Speaker 1: You know, don It's funny because it does not seem

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Speaker 1: And if Indiana wants motivation defensive or tips defensively for

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Speaker 2: Well appreciate it.

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Speaker 1: Thanks for having me, Don Fisher, the voice of the

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Speaker 1: Indiana Hoosiers. The Indiana Fever will head down to Atlanta

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Speaker 1: first off, congratulations on the win last night.

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Speaker 3: Thanks. It was a good one. We you know, we

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Speaker 1: I wanted to get to this you and I talked,

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Speaker 3: I think some of adjusting to coverages and how Atlanta

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Speaker 1: Is this coach, and you've been around basketball a long time,

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Speaker 1: I was mentioning this earlier Stephanie White, our guest, the

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Speaker 3: Certainly ego is UH and is a part of everybody's journey.

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Speaker 1: Now, did Stephanie just go through a tunnel? Eddy, I

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Speaker 3: opportunities from the three point line at their place. We

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Speaker 3: just put them on the free throw line too much.

435
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Speaker 3: You know. The keys for us in our success against

436
00:22:20,080 --> 00:22:23,240
Speaker 3: Atlanta in particular, they got to hit under eight threes

437
00:22:23,280 --> 00:22:24,640
Speaker 3: and they got to stay off the free throw line

438
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Speaker 3: less than fifteen free throw attempts. We did both of those.

439
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Speaker 3: We were much more disciplined defensively. When they were driving

440
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Speaker 3: to the rim, they do a really good job of

441
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Speaker 3: initiating contact, and I thought we did a really good

442
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Speaker 3: job of staying disciplined and not fouling and not giving

443
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Speaker 3: into that contact. You know. So we were much more

444
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Speaker 3: disciplined at the point of our ball screen coverages, of

445
00:22:44,000 --> 00:22:47,560
Speaker 3: our off ball coverages. We were disruptive. They're a good team,

446
00:22:47,840 --> 00:22:49,840
Speaker 3: and we know we're not going to limit everything, but

447
00:22:49,880 --> 00:22:52,280
Speaker 3: those two in particular have to continue to be a

448
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Speaker 3: point of emphasis.

449
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Speaker 1: Can there be benefit from getting technical fouls?

450
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Speaker 3: I mean, I guess if it causes momentum changes in

451
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Speaker 3: your way be benefits.

452
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Speaker 1: Have you ever intentionally gotten one?

453
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Speaker 3: I wouldn't say intentionally. I would say that there are

454
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Speaker 3: times where I sense that momentum could be could be

455
00:23:10,760 --> 00:23:14,640
Speaker 3: gained from it. You know, there are times where where

456
00:23:14,720 --> 00:23:16,840
Speaker 3: I just you know, I go a little too far.

457
00:23:18,119 --> 00:23:21,040
Speaker 3: But no, I wouldn't say that. I'm like planned most

458
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Speaker 3: of the time to get to get technical foul.

459
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Speaker 1: Do you have a magic phrase that you know will

460
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Speaker 1: get you one?

461
00:23:25,480 --> 00:23:28,119
Speaker 3: Like we're definitely.

462
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Speaker 1: Every time or just like every time, if it happens.

463
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Speaker 3: Over and over and over again, typically that's that's resulting

464
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Speaker 3: in one.

465
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Speaker 1: Okay, fair enough, Well that's you know that. I don't

466
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Speaker 1: know if you know this or not. That happens in

467
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Speaker 1: my line of work. Also, like if I use it,

468
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Speaker 1: I get in trouble.

469
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Speaker 3: Also, right, do you get fined as well?

470
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Speaker 1: You know, that's a good question. I'd rather not find out.

471
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Speaker 1: You know, what's funny. I don't know if you were

472
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Speaker 1: like this growing up. What's what's funny to me is

473
00:23:59,400 --> 00:24:01,360
Speaker 1: when I was, And this is kind of what it's

474
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Speaker 1: like being on the radio.

475
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Speaker 2: You know this.

476
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Speaker 1: You've done a lot of media work, Stephanie. But like

477
00:24:05,960 --> 00:24:09,320
Speaker 1: I'm around my buddies and I mean it's you're like sailors. Right,

478
00:24:09,359 --> 00:24:10,800
Speaker 1: It's just like when you were in high school. When

479
00:24:10,840 --> 00:24:12,359
Speaker 1: I was in high school, I'd be around my buddies

480
00:24:12,359 --> 00:24:15,480
Speaker 1: playing pickup basketball, doing whatever, and I mean every other

481
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Speaker 1: word we're swearing. And then you get home and you

482
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Speaker 1: sit in front of your parents and it doesn't even

483
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Speaker 1: enter into your imagination. Right, it's no party less And

484
00:24:23,200 --> 00:24:25,080
Speaker 1: the same happens kind of when you're on the radio.

485
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Speaker 1: I have no idea how. I honestly, I don't know

486
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Speaker 1: how it doesn't slip into it. I'm knock on wood, right,

487
00:24:33,880 --> 00:24:35,320
Speaker 1: so I don't know if I'd get fined or I

488
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Speaker 1: think I could. I don't want to find out.

489
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Speaker 3: No, Yeah, it's the same way. It's like and when

490
00:24:39,840 --> 00:24:43,119
Speaker 3: I'm in in you know, sport, in practice. In season,

491
00:24:43,960 --> 00:24:47,399
Speaker 3: it's much more frequently flying around. It very rarely happens

492
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Speaker 3: out of season. Steph.

493
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Speaker 4: Last night, Aliah Boston has the lay up less thantens

494
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Speaker 4: Exico third quarter, you get the steal and then Lexi

495
00:24:56,720 --> 00:24:59,119
Speaker 4: hits the big three in the crowd just goes absolutely nuts.

496
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Speaker 4: A moment like that wouldn't have happened, you know, in

497
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Speaker 4: previous years because of the way that the format was

498
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Speaker 4: for the WNBA playoffs. What did you think of that

499
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Speaker 4: moment last night as somebody who's been a part of

500
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Speaker 4: this state for so long, and seeing the crowd get

501
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Speaker 4: as lively as it was there at the end of

502
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Speaker 4: the third quarter going.

503
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Speaker 3: Into the fourth, it was incredible.

504
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Speaker 1: You know.

505
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Speaker 3: I think it felt very much like it did in

506
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Speaker 3: twenty fifteen when we were playing I believe it was

507
00:25:23,320 --> 00:25:26,639
Speaker 3: New York in the semi finals, you know, to go

508
00:25:26,720 --> 00:25:30,959
Speaker 3: to the finals. So we had a possession where Breon

509
00:25:31,080 --> 00:25:33,359
Speaker 3: January took a charge right in front of our bench

510
00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:36,120
Speaker 3: and it was a momentum changing possession and the crowd erupted,

511
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Speaker 3: and it just it felt very much like that. It

512
00:25:39,480 --> 00:25:41,879
Speaker 3: was incredible. I mean, I'm so you know, thankful that

513
00:25:41,920 --> 00:25:44,880
Speaker 3: our fans got an opportunity to get that playoff game.

514
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Speaker 3: It's been a long time coming. You know, our players delivered.

515
00:25:47,880 --> 00:25:50,080
Speaker 3: We certainly want to have an opportunity to place it more.

516
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Speaker 3: But that was a really special moment.

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Speaker 1: I think it's really cool as well to see the

518
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Speaker 1: reciprocal support. And I see it even you know during

519
00:26:00,600 --> 00:26:04,040
Speaker 1: when the pacers, like at Thanksgiving time when they do

520
00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:07,760
Speaker 1: the you know, our house meal for the less fortunate

521
00:26:07,840 --> 00:26:10,639
Speaker 1: at Gamebridge and you see both the Pacers and Fever

522
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Speaker 1: players that are there, the Fever players that are in

523
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Speaker 1: town at that time, and you know, seeing Tyrese Haliburton

524
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Speaker 1: at the game yesterday and then obviously always seeing Caitlin

525
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Speaker 1: Clark in different Fever player at Pacers games. Do you

526
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Speaker 1: think that's common for most of the franchises that crossover

527
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Speaker 1: not just support and respect, but friendship.

528
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Speaker 3: I think it's starting to become common. You know, there

529
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Speaker 3: are a lot of these players from a young age

530
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Speaker 3: have interacted with one another where whether it's through USA

531
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Speaker 3: Basketball clubs for you know, there's much more integration of

532
00:26:41,320 --> 00:26:45,200
Speaker 3: where these tournaments are, where these where these these players

533
00:26:45,280 --> 00:26:48,800
Speaker 3: connect from the high school level to the college level

534
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Speaker 3: and then at the pro level. So I do think

535
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Speaker 3: that it's it's continuing to become more common. They've they've

536
00:26:55,400 --> 00:26:58,280
Speaker 3: had relationships, they're continuing to build relationships. There's such a

537
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Speaker 3: mutual respect for what one another does at the highest

538
00:27:02,240 --> 00:27:04,560
Speaker 3: level every single day and how you have to prepare.

539
00:27:05,080 --> 00:27:08,760
Speaker 3: And it is a very small community of professional athletes,

540
00:27:08,800 --> 00:27:11,560
Speaker 3: and so I think it's it's always been sporadic, but

541
00:27:11,600 --> 00:27:14,520
Speaker 3: now it's becoming much more, much more common in mainstay.

542
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Speaker 1: Hey, I'm curious of this. As a as a basketball

543
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Speaker 1: coach who also has done radio and television basketball media,

544
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Speaker 1: do you find that you more often when you are

545
00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:30,280
Speaker 1: doing the media side of it, that you are critically

546
00:27:30,320 --> 00:27:33,120
Speaker 1: analyzing the coaching because you wear that hat as well.

547
00:27:33,800 --> 00:27:35,680
Speaker 1: Or do you find that when you are a coach

548
00:27:35,720 --> 00:27:38,480
Speaker 1: doing media like this that you are more critically wearing

549
00:27:38,520 --> 00:27:40,800
Speaker 1: the hat of the media person because you do that also.

550
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Speaker 3: No, I don't think so. I think what I try

551
00:27:44,359 --> 00:27:48,600
Speaker 3: to do is really dive into to what the coach

552
00:27:48,640 --> 00:27:51,000
Speaker 3: would be thinking if I'm calling a game, like what

553
00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:53,280
Speaker 3: would they be thinking from a game plan standpoint, from

554
00:27:53,320 --> 00:27:58,199
Speaker 3: an adjustment standpoint, time and score situation standpoint, And then

555
00:27:58,240 --> 00:28:01,080
Speaker 3: when I'm on this side, you know, empathize thing sometimes

556
00:28:01,119 --> 00:28:04,359
Speaker 3: with with you know, as coaches sometimes it's like, oh gosh,

557
00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:07,199
Speaker 3: that's that Why why are we asking that question? But

558
00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:09,480
Speaker 3: then empathizing with it with hey, like listen, this is

559
00:28:09,520 --> 00:28:12,240
Speaker 3: just because I know the information doesn't mean everybody else does, right,

560
00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:15,040
Speaker 3: and somebody's hearing it for the first time, and so

561
00:28:15,280 --> 00:28:19,080
Speaker 3: just having the two perspectives, you know, hopefully allows me

562
00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:22,439
Speaker 3: to look at it from from that viewpoint, so that

563
00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:25,160
Speaker 3: we no matter what, we can give the viewer, the audience,

564
00:28:25,240 --> 00:28:29,959
Speaker 3: the team, whomever it might be, h give them, you

565
00:28:29,960 --> 00:28:32,400
Speaker 3: know what we're looking for and give them a unique perspective.

566
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Speaker 1: What percent of the time when we're when you're on

567
00:28:34,840 --> 00:28:36,600
Speaker 1: this show, do you think to yourself, Oh gosh, why

568
00:28:36,640 --> 00:28:37,639
Speaker 1: are we asking that question?

569
00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:40,600
Speaker 3: I'm thinking, oh gosh, what's going to come out of

570
00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:42,720
Speaker 3: Jake's mouth? Like, what are we asking? What's going to have?

571
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Speaker 1: Fifty?

572
00:28:43,120 --> 00:28:43,600
Speaker 2: Is it going to be?

573
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Speaker 1: Is it fifty to fifty?

574
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Speaker 3: I mean, like I was anticipating a little bit when

575
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Speaker 3: you were talking about the Journey that we were going

576
00:28:48,640 --> 00:28:52,360
Speaker 3: to go into eighties rock again. And did you like Journey,

577
00:28:52,400 --> 00:28:54,520
Speaker 3: by the way, I did like Journey, Yeah.

578
00:28:54,440 --> 00:28:57,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, Journey's pretty cool. Journey was cool. Listen. I mean

579
00:28:57,960 --> 00:28:59,960
Speaker 1: you threw me for a curve ball with Steve Miller though,

580
00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:03,160
Speaker 1: because you know what I mean, Like, I just I

581
00:29:03,360 --> 00:29:06,600
Speaker 1: just anticipate you being strictly nothing in high school but

582
00:29:06,640 --> 00:29:09,200
Speaker 1: a country music fan. So I was impressed when you

583
00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:10,320
Speaker 1: threw Steve Miller out there.

584
00:29:10,600 --> 00:29:13,080
Speaker 3: And just I mean I was an athlete. I was

585
00:29:13,080 --> 00:29:15,520
Speaker 3: an athlete, so you know, I wasn't just growing up

586
00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:17,440
Speaker 3: on the farm listening to country music.

587
00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:19,280
Speaker 1: Right, well, but I.

588
00:29:19,160 --> 00:29:21,040
Speaker 3: You're limiting, You're limiting my experience.

589
00:29:21,120 --> 00:29:23,280
Speaker 1: Now listen. I'll be honest with you when I when

590
00:29:23,280 --> 00:29:25,120
Speaker 1: I think about you, like getting ready for a big

591
00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:27,360
Speaker 1: game at Secret High School as an athlete, I think

592
00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:29,520
Speaker 1: of you as being like Rocky Balboa, like you were like,

593
00:29:29,600 --> 00:29:31,440
Speaker 1: you know, climbing up like you know what I mean,

594
00:29:31,520 --> 00:29:34,640
Speaker 1: Like you were doing I had a tiger, Yeah, I mean,

595
00:29:34,720 --> 00:29:36,760
Speaker 1: like pulling a plow, you know what I mean. I mean,

596
00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:40,800
Speaker 1: like those sorts of things Like I think like you

597
00:29:40,800 --> 00:29:43,040
Speaker 1: were basically an Amish athlete, is the way I look

598
00:29:43,080 --> 00:29:43,440
Speaker 1: at it.

599
00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:44,400
Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, I see.

600
00:29:45,880 --> 00:29:47,800
Speaker 1: I mean, let's be honest. It's not like you were

601
00:29:47,840 --> 00:29:52,560
Speaker 1: on Michigan athlete right school. Yeah yeah, I mean it's

602
00:29:52,600 --> 00:29:54,800
Speaker 1: a little bit different than Indianapolis North Central, but not

603
00:29:54,880 --> 00:29:56,480
Speaker 1: I mean you were a hell of them, not a lot,

604
00:29:56,560 --> 00:29:59,200
Speaker 1: but a lot better player than I was. That's for sure,

605
00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:03,120
Speaker 1: no question about it, all right, coach. Lastly, you know

606
00:30:03,320 --> 00:30:06,120
Speaker 1: the obvious here, and that is I know that you

607
00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:08,800
Speaker 1: want to win this game, and I know that at

608
00:30:08,840 --> 00:30:12,320
Speaker 1: this point it's kind of like you know, Norman Dale

609
00:30:12,360 --> 00:30:15,040
Speaker 1: says in Hoosiers, like we've gone over everything at this point.

610
00:30:15,480 --> 00:30:17,800
Speaker 1: But when you do go into a game that you know,

611
00:30:18,280 --> 00:30:21,760
Speaker 1: if it doesn't go your way, that then this group

612
00:30:21,840 --> 00:30:24,760
Speaker 1: may never be together in its totality again, et cetera.

613
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Speaker 1: What is the mindset going in? How do you keep

614
00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:31,080
Speaker 1: a group focused on the job at hand and not

615
00:30:31,160 --> 00:30:33,480
Speaker 1: looking beyond the stakes of it.

616
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Speaker 3: Well, look, most of the players in our locker room

617
00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:39,920
Speaker 3: have been through that part of it before. It's it's

618
00:30:39,960 --> 00:30:42,920
Speaker 3: nearly never the same group no matter what you know,

619
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Speaker 3: at the beginning, the ending of a season, the beginning

620
00:30:45,800 --> 00:30:48,040
Speaker 3: of the next season. You know, I think for this

621
00:30:48,080 --> 00:30:51,239
Speaker 3: group in particular, we have been our best when our

622
00:30:51,280 --> 00:30:54,760
Speaker 3: back is up against the wall, and this group is

623
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Speaker 3: has just is just focused on doing the job at hand.

624
00:30:58,920 --> 00:31:01,040
Speaker 3: And you know, I think for me, when I think

625
00:31:01,040 --> 00:31:03,320
Speaker 3: about the opportunity that we have in front of us,

626
00:31:03,320 --> 00:31:05,120
Speaker 3: I mean the pressures not on us, right, you know,

627
00:31:05,160 --> 00:31:08,040
Speaker 3: we're the lower seed. We force at Game three. We

628
00:31:08,120 --> 00:31:09,840
Speaker 3: know what we have to do in order to take

629
00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:12,480
Speaker 3: the next step and to get to another series and

630
00:31:12,520 --> 00:31:15,880
Speaker 3: to continue our quest for a championship. And we want

631
00:31:15,920 --> 00:31:19,080
Speaker 3: to embrace every moment that we have because this has

632
00:31:19,120 --> 00:31:21,440
Speaker 3: been such a special quest group, because we do know

633
00:31:22,400 --> 00:31:25,360
Speaker 3: how to fight and call and scrape and scrap for

634
00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:28,479
Speaker 3: one another. And because we've enjoyed the moments together.

635
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Speaker 1: By the way, Eddie, coach White coached in Nashville, lives

636
00:31:34,160 --> 00:31:37,240
Speaker 1: and spends a lot of time in Nashville. Coach Eddie

637
00:31:37,280 --> 00:31:39,280
Speaker 1: has come up with what he believes to be the

638
00:31:39,320 --> 00:31:42,440
Speaker 1: masterful impersonation of the sound of every bachelorette party on

639
00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:44,760
Speaker 1: the back of a bus going down Broadway. Go ahead, Eddie,

640
00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:49,000
Speaker 1: hit it. Okay, does that sound about right?

641
00:31:49,120 --> 00:31:49,920
Speaker 3: Is that's accurate?

642
00:31:50,040 --> 00:31:52,520
Speaker 1: That's basically the ambient noise of Nashville, Tennessee.

643
00:31:52,600 --> 00:31:55,120
Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, it sure is. And you have to hear

644
00:31:55,160 --> 00:31:58,160
Speaker 3: it over the loud speakers and the singing the karaoke

645
00:31:58,280 --> 00:31:58,880
Speaker 3: Oh yeah.

646
00:31:58,760 --> 00:32:02,760
Speaker 1: Totally all right. Last, the next musical request would.

647
00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:03,080
Speaker 2: Be who.

648
00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:07,480
Speaker 3: Oh wow. Let's see. You know, I went JT and

649
00:32:07,600 --> 00:32:09,640
Speaker 3: I did used to be a big in sync fan,

650
00:32:09,720 --> 00:32:12,240
Speaker 3: So maybe we'll have to go back to nineties boy bands.

651
00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:15,480
Speaker 1: Okay, we could do Backstreet Boys in sync? You know

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Speaker 1: you name it right.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: But here's the thing. The reason I the reason I asked,

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Speaker 1: is because I'm putting you on the hook for next week,

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Speaker 1: because you guys are gonna win and you're going to

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Speaker 1: continue to have games to talk about.

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Speaker 3: That's right.

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Speaker 1: Let's go, all right, appreciate it, coach, best of luck,

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Speaker 1: all right, all right. Stephanie White joining us from the

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Speaker 1: Indiana Fever