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Speaker 1: Lie from Heart and the Crossroads of America. It's Tony

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Speaker 1: Katz today.

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Speaker 2: Good morning, ladies and gentlemen. We got him.

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Speaker 3: On the evening of September eleventh, a family member of

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Speaker 3: Tyler Robinson reached out to a family friend who contacted

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Speaker 3: the Washington County Sheriff's Office with information that Robinson had confessed.

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Speaker 2: To them or implied that he had committed the incident.

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Speaker 3: This information was relayed to the Utah County Sheriff's Office

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Speaker 3: and seen investigators at Utah Valley University. This information was

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Speaker 3: also conveyed to the FBI. Investigators reviewed additional video footage

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Speaker 3: from UVU surveillance and identified Robinson arriving on UVU campus

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Speaker 3: in a Great Dodge Challenger at approximately eight twenty nine

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Speaker 3: am on September tenth, in which he is observed on

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Speaker 3: video in a plain maroon T shirt, light colored shorts,

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Speaker 3: a black hat with a white logo, and.

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Speaker 2: Light colored shoes.

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Speaker 3: When encountered in person by investigators in Washington County on

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Speaker 3: September twelfth in the early morning hours, Robinson was observed

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Speaker 3: in consistent clothing with those surveillance images. Investigators interviewed a

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Speaker 3: family member of Robinson who stated that Robinson had become

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Speaker 3: more political in recent years. The family member referenced.

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Speaker 4: They did indeed catch him. Some people think that this

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Speaker 4: is a giant failure of the FBI because the guy

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Speaker 4: basically admitted it to family members. Family members held him

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Speaker 4: there and turned him in. I don't think I would

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Speaker 4: look at it like that. Tony Katz, Tony Kats today,

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Speaker 4: good to be with you. Find everything over at Tony

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Speaker 4: Katz dot com, the live stream on YouTube, Tony Kats,

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Speaker 4: Twitter x, Tony Katz, Facebook, Tony Katz Radio. That was

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Speaker 4: Governor Spencer Cox of Utah. They're at the press conference.

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Speaker 2: And I'll share it with you later.

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Speaker 4: The entirety as much as I could of the press conference,

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Speaker 4: including the Q and A. But I don't care if

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Speaker 4: it's luck luck, there's nothing wrong with It's a good

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Speaker 4: thing to be on your side sometimes. And as the

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Speaker 4: governor points out in this press conference, there were messages

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Speaker 4: on discord and other.

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Speaker 2: Places, was shown by Robinson's roommate.

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Speaker 3: These photos consisted of various messages, including content of messages

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Speaker 3: between the phone contact named Tyler with an emoji icon

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Speaker 3: and Robinson's roommate's device. The content of these messages included

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Speaker 3: messages affiliated with the contact Tyler stating a need to

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Speaker 3: retrieve a rifle from a drop point, leaving the rifle

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Speaker 3: in a bush. Messages related to visually watching the area

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Speaker 3: where a rifle was left, and a message referring to

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Speaker 3: having left the rifle wrapped in a towel. The messages

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Speaker 3: also refer to engraving bullets and a mention of a

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Speaker 3: scope and the rifle being unique. Messages from the contact

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Speaker 3: Tyler also mentioned that he had changed outfits.

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Speaker 4: Now, the messages on the bullets are something that we

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Speaker 4: heard about the other day. We have absolute confirmation of

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Speaker 4: that now, those messages, those inscriptions.

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Speaker 2: He had changed outfits.

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Speaker 3: I know there has been speculation as well as to

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Speaker 3: the writing on those casings, those those bullet casings, and

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Speaker 3: I believe we have that as well, and I'll share

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Speaker 3: that with you now. So, the area north of Campus

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Speaker 3: of that in the video that we released last night,

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Speaker 3: consists of a grassy area with trees.

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Speaker 2: On the edge of the UBU campus.

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Speaker 3: Investigators discovered a bolt action rifle wrapped in a.

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Speaker 2: Dark colored towel.

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Speaker 3: The rifle was determined to be a Mouser Model ninety

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Speaker 3: eight thirty six thirty six caliber bolt action rifle. The

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Speaker 3: noted inscriptions that had been engraved on casings found with

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Speaker 3: the rifle. Inscriptions on a fired casing read notices bulges, capital, O, wo,

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Speaker 2: Mark.

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Speaker 3: Inscriptions on the three unfired casings read hey fascist, exclamation

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Speaker 2: A second unfired casing.

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Speaker 3: Read oh bellichow belli chow belli chow chow chow. And

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Speaker 3: a third unfired casing read if you read this, you

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Speaker 3: are gay.

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Speaker 2: LMAO.

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Speaker 4: Now, I don't know what some of those messages mean.

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Speaker 2: Maybe others do.

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Speaker 4: Maybe there's a gaming reference, maybe there's a host of

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Speaker 4: other references.

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Speaker 2: But hey, fascists catch. I know what that means. You

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Speaker 4: Every single member of the media aristocracy, everyone who has

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Speaker 4: been referring to Trump and Republicans as fascists for years

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Speaker 4: with no basis whatsoever in the truth.

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Speaker 2: The obscenity of it all, including.

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Speaker 4: From the former presidential candidate for the Democrats.

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Speaker 2: Let me ask you tonight, do you think Donald Trump

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Speaker 2: is a fascist?

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Speaker 2: I do. That's Kamala Harris.

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Speaker 4: There is only one person to blame for the actual

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Speaker 4: pulling of the trigger, and that is this person who

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Speaker 2: I don't use names. I know that the governor did.

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Speaker 4: I don't do anything to engage that elevation. I am

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Speaker 4: just not interested. Let others do it. You can think

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Speaker 4: of me what you will. That is the person to blame.

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Speaker 4: That is the person who assassinated Charlie Kirk. That is

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Speaker 4: the person who needs to be tried and, if found guilty,

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Speaker 4: needs to be dealt with. They've already let us know

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Speaker 4: in Utah they have the death penalty.

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Speaker 2: Does that mean it's going to come? I don't have

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Speaker 4: We should be people who are clear that there was

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Speaker 4: a concerted, proactive effort that still continues to this day

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Speaker 4: to demonize and dehumanize anybody who disagrees with them, specifically Republicans,

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Speaker 4: for the Democratic Party, for the Progressives, and to consider

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Speaker 4: them not human and to engage them as not human.

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Speaker 2: Well, they're fascists.

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Speaker 4: You gotta do something about fascists. I mean, that's their argument,

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Speaker 4: that's their theory. That's their philosophy that cannot be denied.

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Speaker 4: Cashpitel FBI director was there making his statements.

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Speaker 2: Role and we will lead out for the federal government.

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Speaker 6: But Governor Coxspy, are so grateful for your state partnership

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Speaker 6: that let out on this investigation.

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Speaker 2: A little bit of the timeline.

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Speaker 6: Charlie was shot at twelve twenty three pm on Wednesday.

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Speaker 6: The first FBI agents arrived on scene in sixteen minutes

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Speaker 6: with chiefs of police at twelve thirty nine and secured

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Speaker 6: the scene. The FBI immediately launched fixed wing assets. We

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Speaker 6: utilize these assets to transport personnel, specialty technicians, hostage rescue teams.

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Speaker 2: We also utilize these assets.

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Speaker 6: To go back and forth from the East Coast and

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Speaker 6: that will be analyzed and is being analyzed at our

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Speaker 6: FBI laboratories in Quantico and other laboratories including the ATF

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Speaker 6: and my direction. The FBI released the first set of

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Speaker 6: FBI photos of the suspect at ten am local time

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Speaker 6: on nine to eleven. Then shortly thereafter, the FBI reward

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Speaker 6: of one hundred thousand dollars was released at ten forty five.

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Speaker 4: It's a little bit of the timeline there now as

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Speaker 4: people are writing the phrases that were used in addition

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Speaker 4: to hey fascists, catch Belacho meaning goodbye beautiful, an Italian

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Speaker 4: folk song that was a protest song from the Italian

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Speaker 4: anti fascist resistance. Seems like they've got their guy, and

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Speaker 4: it seems like their guy is exactly, almost exactly what

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Speaker 4: we thought. Someone who had been radicalized, someone who believed

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Speaker 4: it was their responsibility to do away with anybody.

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Speaker 2: Whom they should disagree with.

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Speaker 4: Anybody involved in hate speech feel the air quotes.

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Speaker 2: From this microphone.

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Speaker 4: I have argued repeatedly that there is no such thing

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Speaker 4: as hate speech. There could very well be speech that

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Speaker 4: you hate, just like there's no such thing as hate crimes.

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Speaker 4: There could very well be things crimes, very well could

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Speaker 4: be crimes that you hate.

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Speaker 2: There can be.

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Speaker 4: Speech that you hate in crimes that you hate. But

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Speaker 4: there are no hate crimes, and there is no hate speech.

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Speaker 4: It has never existed in the history of mankind, and

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Speaker 4: it never will. These things are nonsense, pablom constructs made

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Speaker 2: They are wrong. I have taken a.

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Speaker 4: Lot of heat where I live, being opposed to hate

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Speaker 4: crimes legislation in the state of Indiana from Jewish organizations

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Speaker 4: because they.

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Speaker 2: Want this stuff.

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Speaker 4: It's important that we say it's not okay when this

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Speaker 4: happens to Jews, It's not okay when it happens to anybody.

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Speaker 4: And I don't think that being Jewish, I'm some kind

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Speaker 4: of flower. I think I can handle myself. I've got

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Speaker 4: the Constitution. I'm covered.

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Speaker 2: We all are.

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Speaker 4: We do not need special subsets that somehow have some

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Speaker 4: level of special protections. You're gay, you're straight, you're this,

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Speaker 4: you're that. You are not special. You're not You're an

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Speaker 4: American protected by the Constitution under the laws of the Constitution.

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Speaker 2: Good, excellent, Now let's go have lunch.

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Speaker 4: But there is no question that this guy is what

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Speaker 4: you would have assumed, got ginned up, got geared up,

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Speaker 4: got radicalized by the constant conversation, the lie that somehow

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Speaker 4: America is a threat, when of course it is not.

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Speaker 4: An election took place and Donald Trump won and Kamala

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Speaker 4: Harris lost, and that's the end of the ball game.

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Speaker 2: That was it.

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Speaker 4: That's what happened. And someday down the road, people who

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Speaker 4: disagree with me might win an election. I've lost elections.

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Speaker 4: When Barack Obama won the presidency, I was living in California.

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Speaker 4: I sat down at my table, My wife was there,

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Speaker 4: my brother was there, the good doctor cats. I ate

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Speaker 2: Was like, damn it. And I think that's as far

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Speaker 2: as it went. Now. I was right.

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Speaker 4: He was very bad for the country and institute of

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Speaker 4: policies and ideas and philosophies that had no value for

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Speaker 4: the country. This whole idea of the ninety nine percent

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Speaker 4: and the one percent and the rich paying their fair share.

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Speaker 2: That's the proletariat and the bourgeoisie. That's all that is.

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Speaker 2: That's all. It's class warfare. From beginning to end. I

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Speaker 2: knew it would be awful.

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Speaker 4: I said damn it at my kitchen table and had

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Speaker 4: myself some carbs, which is a pretty rational way to

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Speaker 4: I'm glad they have this guy. And there are some

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Speaker 4: people who think that the FBI has bungled this entire investigation,

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Speaker 4: and they were giving mixed messages and they just got lucky.

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Speaker 2: Again.

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Speaker 4: I'll take lucky, and again I will discuss and I

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Speaker 4: will get more into it in a little bit, that

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Speaker 4: this was more than an assassination. This was an act

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Speaker 4: of political terrorism. And if you haven't seen my video

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Speaker 4: yet on YouTube, you should go.

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Speaker 2: Check it out. It's also there on Twitter X. This

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Speaker 2: was political terrorism.

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Speaker 4: That is where we are at, and I am convinced

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Speaker 4: that this is not the end. I am also convinced

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Speaker 4: that just because I'm on this side of the microphone,

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Speaker 4: it does not necessarily put me in a different boat

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Speaker 4: than where you might be somebody who's upset with your

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Speaker 4: Facebook post or your social media post, or your blog,

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Speaker 4: might fly outside your home. It's an ugly time and

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Speaker 4: the only way out is through, and the only thing

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Speaker 4: we can do is keep on talking. The objective of

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Speaker 4: terrorism is to terrorized, is to create a fear, so

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Speaker 4: you are silent, so you submit.

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Speaker 4: Evidence seems very clear, including an admission. We don't give

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Speaker 4: And the answer to that is no. I'm Tony Katz,

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Speaker 2: You that threat In. Annapolis so this.

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Speaker 4: Yesterday was the story where THE Us Naval academy was

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Speaker 4: There was there was a rash of it that it went,

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Speaker 4: Of the these these, hoaxes these these, pretends these pretend.

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Speaker 2: Was, happening keep it. Here this Is Tonny cats. Today

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Speaker 2: Him what he did is.

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Speaker 8: Disgraceful Charlie kirk was a great, person a great, man

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Speaker 4: Appropriately they do have a suspect in custody who has

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Speaker 4: Fascists it's it's a question of do you ignore these

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Speaker 2: Of saying this political violence have to. Stop whenever we

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Speaker 4: And Somehow i'm supposed to think that this is the

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Speaker 4: Attention WHEN CNNs this just came, OUT i want to

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Speaker 2: To be seeking. Retribution, absolutely that's the.

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Speaker 4: To that there's a trial and if he's found guilty

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Speaker 4: a full. Separation they've got their news and we've got,

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Speaker 4: ours and they've got their people and we've got, ours

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Speaker 4: and that's. It you don't actually want, that BUT i

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Speaker 2: NOW i can't.

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Speaker 4: Condone someone buying from AN msnbc. SPONSOR i went, through you,

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Speaker 4: KNOW i can't do anything about national. Sponsors why are

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Speaker 4: you do things about my local? Sponsorship AND i was going,

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Speaker 4: through DO i.

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Speaker 2: Have any local?

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Speaker 4: Sponsors or DO i have any national sponsors that play

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Speaker 4: in that.

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Speaker 2: World because, that, NO i won't do it.

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Speaker 4: Right sometimes national sponsors come to my local show AND

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Speaker 4: i do advertising for, them BUT i always vet, everybody and,

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Speaker 4: NO i. WON'T i won't Have it doesn't happen to

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Speaker 4: me as much as maybe it happens to.

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Speaker 2: Others but what do you? Do what do you do

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Speaker 4: SITUATION i THINK i think it is understandable that someone could,

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Speaker 4: Say i'm aware those people, exist But i'm staying over,

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Speaker 4: here And i'm staying in this lane because WHAT cnn

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Speaker 4: is putting out, there what they're offering out, there.

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Speaker 2: Is.

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Speaker 4: Madness and their Headline trump allies threatened to punish critics

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Speaker 4: Of Charlie. Kirk how what punishment are you even beginning

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Speaker 4: to talk about what possible? PUNISHMENT cnn is still on the,

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Speaker 4: AIR msnbc put people on the air who are less

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Speaker 4: than an. Hour an hour After Charlie kirk was. Shot we're, saying, WELL.

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Speaker 2: I don't, know maybe it was maybe it was people.

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Speaker 4: Engaged in, celebration a celebratory gunfire that hit. Him who knows,

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Speaker 4: well you, know you say hateful, things expect hateful things to.

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Speaker 4: Happen now to their, credit over there AT. Msnbc they

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Speaker 4: Fired Matthew dowd for those, comments But katie terror allowed

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Speaker 4: that to, happen.

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Speaker 2: And she was on the.

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Speaker 4: Show the next day and it was like she had

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Speaker 4: she had gotten the. Memo she was, Like, oh, Yeah

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Speaker 4: i'm Gonna i'm gonna talk about how terrible this.

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Speaker 2: Is, now where were you?

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Speaker 4: YESTERDAY I i am not. SURE i, MEAN i didn't

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Speaker 4: THERE i do with some other things to get.

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Speaker 2: To but.

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Speaker 4: Do you stop paying attention to these people and and

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Speaker 4: just have a full, separation or do you keep seeing

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Speaker 4: what it is that they're saying so you can discuss

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Speaker 4: when possibly they get something, right or the madness of

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Speaker 4: their position to begin, with to try and persuade more

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Speaker 4: people that they're not giving you the, full, honest, complete total.

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Speaker 4: Story let me know what you think in the comments

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Speaker 4: there over there at the live stream at YouTube dot,

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Speaker 4: com Slash Tony kats or On twitter X Tony, kats

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Speaker 4: and of course Email tony At Tony Kats. Today keep

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Speaker 4: it here bearr. Back the story About Congressman Andre carson

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Speaker 4: was In breitbart dot. Com Democrat Representative Andre carson staff or,

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Speaker 4: says Slain Charlie kirk quote casualty of the violence he. Incited,

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Speaker 4: again this is The left saying That Charlie kirk her

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Speaker 4: skirt was too short and he deserved to be. Raped

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Speaker 4: it's the same Conversation Tony, Katz Tony katz, today good.

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Speaker 2: To be with.

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Speaker 4: You find EVERYTHING i do over At Tony katz dot.

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Speaker 4: Com that's that's what They that's what they. Said congress

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Speaker 4: N Aja, Carson democrat from the Seventh district Of, Indiana.

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Speaker 4: INDIANAPOLIS a guy who refers To Rashida salim as his,

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Speaker 4: SISTER a guy who won't Condemn Lewis Fara khan in

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Speaker 4: mixt of a friendship With Louis Fara.

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Speaker 2: Khan, yeah that's his.

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Speaker 4: STAFFERS i was very happy to see The Senate republicans,

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Speaker 4: say all, Right nuclear option it, Is thank, You Harry.

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Speaker 4: Reid they changed the rules in The senate to speed

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Speaker 4: up confirmation Of trump nominees Because democrats were holding up

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Speaker 4: every nominee so you couldn't just voice vote and. Everything

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Speaker 4: you had to go through every single. One when Even

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Speaker 4: Joe biden got five hundred and thirty some odd voice.

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Speaker 4: Votes they're doing this. Purposely they're they're not just you, know,

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Speaker 4: fighting they're radical obstructionists who can't accept the fact they.

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Speaker 2: Lost when you, lose just take it when they. Lose, well,

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Speaker 2: no that's what they're.

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Speaker 4: Doing so now you can get these lower level executive

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Speaker 4: nominees through with a simple majority, vote so you don't

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Speaker 4: have to vote for each one.

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Speaker 2: Individually now we're going to move this.

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Speaker 4: Through and there are more than a Hundred trump nominees

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Speaker 4: for these sub cabinet posts That democrats have been trying

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Speaker 4: to hold, up trying to keep the duly elected president from.

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Speaker 4: Governing it's always been this way with, them certainly in

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Speaker 4: regards To. Trump and AGAIN i will remind you so

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Speaker 4: we always. Understand AND i would say this to The,

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Speaker 4: president this isn't about, him AND i think he would

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Speaker 4: absolutely agree BECAUSE i could point to a million times

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Speaker 4: where he's discussed. This this isn't About, trump it's about.

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Speaker 4: You you voted for.

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Speaker 2: Him the left is so.

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Speaker 4: Angry that, you The american, people didn't listen to them

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Speaker 4: and do what you were told that now you're. Punished

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Speaker 4: you don't get what you, want you don't get a

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Speaker 4: fully working. Government we engage in, law, fair we don't

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Speaker 4: put these nominees into effects like we have for every other,

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Speaker 4: president whether that Be, biden whether that Be Barack, obama

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Speaker 4: whether that be A, bush or whether that Be trump

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Speaker 4: in his first, term which only shows how much more

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Speaker 4: radical they've.

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Speaker 2: Gotten But i'm happy to see The senate make this.

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Speaker 2: Move good, Job senator thom set up majority.

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Speaker 4: Leader you got to fight the fight the way the

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Speaker 4: fight needs to be, fought which is WHY i favor.

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Speaker 4: Redistricting but we'll get to that subject in the. Meantime

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Speaker 4: nothing burned, down.

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Speaker 2: And that's very. Important keep it. Here this Is Tony Katz, Today.

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Speaker 1: Live from Ball heartland and The crossroads Of. America It's

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Speaker 1: Tony Kats. Today it was.

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Speaker 4: Nice to see THAT i wasn't the only person who

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Speaker 4: noticed that nothing burned to the.

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Speaker 2: GROUND i was.

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Speaker 4: Discussing how the assassination Of Charlie kirk has a lot

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Speaker 4: of offshoot stories that we've now seen about how people,

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Speaker 4: respond both good and.

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Speaker 2: Bad how people.

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Speaker 4: Who are so filled with their own, venom how they

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Speaker 4: respond by cheering, death.

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Speaker 2: Cheering It they not like. Us kendrick was very, Right.

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Speaker 4: Tony, Katz Tony Kats, Today good to be With you

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Speaker 4: find everything At tony kats dot, com the live stream

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Speaker 4: over there on, YouTube YouTube dot, com Slash Tony.

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Speaker 2: Katz that's how you get to be a part of.

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Speaker 4: It twitter X Tony, Kats, Facebook Tony Kats radio and

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Speaker 4: listen all across your radio dot great affiliates and thrilled

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Speaker 4: to be here and can't thank you guys.

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Speaker 2: Enough it needs to be noted.

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Speaker 4: That amongst all the responses that we've, seen we've seen

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Speaker 4: the left cheering. This we've seen the left mocking. This

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Speaker 4: we have seen people like like Illha omar engage in

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Speaker 4: some very very ugly talking and real pseudo intellectualism that

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Speaker 4: is excused by her compatriots and fellow hater like Media

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Speaker 4: San we're.

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Speaker 2: Running out of. Time Michael harnandez asked a good question on.

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Speaker 5: YouTube he, says in this, environment why would you take

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Speaker 5: away secret service protection from the former vice? President trump

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Speaker 5: happily pulled protection From, harris AND i believe from people

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Speaker 5: Like John. Bolton i'm not a fan, of BUT i

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Speaker 5: don't want to See John bolton. Killed he pulled protection

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Speaker 5: from a lot of people he doesn't. Like doesn't sound

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Speaker 5: like someone taking political violence that seriously when it's people

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Speaker 5: he doesn't like, NO i, Mean and that's the.

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Speaker 11: Thing it's they are never willing or care to worry

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Speaker 11: about when you, know it's it's those of us on

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Speaker 11: the other side of the aisle that are getting death,

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Speaker 11: threads that have had their house to shut, up that

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Speaker 11: have had you, know people show up to their own.

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Speaker 2: Home stop, It Representative, omar just stop.

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Speaker 4: It you said that members Of congress were paid off

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Speaker 4: by The. Jews you may very well have married your

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Speaker 4: own brother to say in the country Something i'd like

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Speaker 4: to see at least investigated so we could either determine

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Speaker 4: its a veracity or put that rumor to. Rest you

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Speaker 4: came Into congress with, nothing and you not thirty million,

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Speaker 4: dollars and When Supreme court justices were being, threatened there

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Speaker 4: was nothing to. Say no one should be coming to your,

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Speaker 4: home no one should be threatening.

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Speaker 2: You they just shouldn't vote for.

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Speaker 4: You but when it comes To Kamala, harris the former

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Speaker 4: vice president of The United States Secret, service protection ends

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Speaker 4: it wasn't, polled it. Ended same thing was true For

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Speaker 4: Vice President Mike. Pence it. Ended that's. It but if

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Speaker 4: you want to pay for her, security you're more than welcome.

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Speaker 4: To this was a lie amongst a series of lies

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Speaker 4: That ilkhanimar told regarding, basically, Well Charlie, kirkin he's bor

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Speaker 4: The Second.

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Speaker 2: Amendment, well, well these things, happened obscene. Stuff but something

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Speaker 2: happened over the last.

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Speaker 4: Two days that no one, noticed because, well the thing

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Speaker 4: that happened is actually the thing that didn't.

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Speaker 2: Happen and the thing that didn't happen.

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Speaker 4: Is not a single, city nor, building nor business was

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Speaker 4: burned to the. Ground the people who Followed Charlie, kirker white.

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Speaker 4: Supremacist that's what we got. Told the people who Follow

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Speaker 4: Charlie kirker. Fascists the people who, listened participated in went

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Speaker 4: to his, events that Of charlie kirk An american. Ideologues

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Speaker 4: yet not a single business burned to the, ground.

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Speaker 2: Not a single window was. Broken we would have heard it.

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Speaker 4: Right you want to do me a favor of their

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Speaker 4: petitional land into a quick check of the, reporting just

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Speaker 4: to make Sure i'm not. WRONG a guy with five

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Speaker 4: million followers on social media who built an organization, amazingly,

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Speaker 4: so MAY i add aground the.

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Speaker 2: Globe no one.

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Speaker 4: Got, hurt no one got, Attacked AND i was very

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Speaker 4: happy to see that the governor Of utah made mention of.

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Speaker 3: THIS i want you to look at How utah's reacted

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Speaker 3: the last two.

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Speaker 2: Nights there was.

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Speaker 3: No, writing there's no, looting there were no cars set on,

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Speaker 3: fire there's no. Violence there were there were visuals and

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Speaker 3: prayers and people coming together to share the. Humanity and

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Speaker 3: That las and, GENTLEMEN i believe is the answer to.

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Speaker 3: This we can return violence with vio. Violence we can

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Speaker 3: return hate with. Hate and that's the problem with political

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Speaker 3: violence is it metastasizes.

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Speaker 4: It does that is. True so first to the, observation

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Speaker 4: to the observation that no one said anything on, fire

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Speaker 4: and it's more than Just. Utah Governor, Cox Charlie kirk

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Speaker 4: was known coast to, coast no one. Anywhere can't say

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Speaker 4: that about the political, left can't say that About Black Lives,

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Speaker 4: matter can't say that About George floyd, riots where the

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Speaker 4: violence was condoned and was actually lauded and, glorified it

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Speaker 4: was lifted.

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Speaker 2: Up no one did anything like.

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Speaker 4: That and that's the point THAT i only wish that

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Speaker 4: the governor had gotten. To that's the difference the argument

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Speaker 4: they make About january, sixth and look at how the

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Speaker 4: president and cited these people to violence and positioned them to.

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Speaker 2: VIOLENCE i have made the argument.

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Speaker 4: That the president should have been much more aggressive to

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Speaker 4: the a protection.

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Speaker 2: Of Then Vice President Mike.

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Speaker 4: Pence i've made this argument a million times and, saying

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Speaker 4: everybody go.

665
00:42:50,880 --> 00:42:51,960
Speaker 2: Home it should have happened.

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00:42:51,960 --> 00:42:56,760
Speaker 4: Faster but the argument that somehow he brought those people

667
00:42:56,760 --> 00:42:58,640
Speaker 4: to The capitol to wage.

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00:42:58,320 --> 00:43:01,560
Speaker 2: War is a. Lie and it's always been a.

669
00:43:01,640 --> 00:43:04,880
Speaker 4: Lie and no matter how much bluster the left puts on,

670
00:43:04,960 --> 00:43:07,920
Speaker 4: it no matter what kind of television show they, produced

671
00:43:08,120 --> 00:43:10,400
Speaker 4: which they mean they brought in a showrunner FROM abc

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00:43:10,560 --> 00:43:12,840
Speaker 4: for The love of The lord to do those prime

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00:43:12,920 --> 00:43:16,200
Speaker 4: TIME j six kind of specials where there was no.

674
00:43:16,360 --> 00:43:23,400
Speaker 4: Rebuttal it was Beyond kangaroo with The veneer that somehow

675
00:43:23,560 --> 00:43:28,799
Speaker 4: this had. LEGITIMACY i, Mean Adam kinddinger And Liz cheney

676
00:43:28,840 --> 00:43:31,520
Speaker 4: should still be. Embarrassed, so by the, way should The

677
00:43:31,560 --> 00:43:32,720
Speaker 4: democrats with that one involve?

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00:43:32,800 --> 00:43:41,680
Speaker 2: Shame and that's not gonna. Happen there was no. Violence

679
00:43:45,160 --> 00:43:45,719
Speaker 2: and you know.

680
00:43:45,800 --> 00:43:50,680
Speaker 4: How amazing it is that after the, assassination no one

681
00:43:50,760 --> 00:43:53,440
Speaker 4: had to put out a, Statement hey no violence, Tonight

682
00:43:54,640 --> 00:43:57,800
Speaker 4: hey hey hey be, cool let's not hurt anybody. Tonight

683
00:43:58,160 --> 00:44:01,120
Speaker 4: no one's gonna hurt anybody not too far from. Me

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00:44:01,680 --> 00:44:06,680
Speaker 4: is a college, campus and they held a. Vigil they

685
00:44:06,719 --> 00:44:11,160
Speaker 4: woke up the next, Morning september, eleventh and they gathered

686
00:44:11,200 --> 00:44:15,400
Speaker 4: on the quad and they prayed and they. Talked by the,

687
00:44:15,440 --> 00:44:19,040
Speaker 4: way for any college campus out, there anyone out, there

688
00:44:20,360 --> 00:44:24,920
Speaker 4: you should keep doing the. Events, Certainly i'm going to

689
00:44:24,920 --> 00:44:26,920
Speaker 4: make the assumption of Turning points going to do exactly.

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00:44:26,960 --> 00:44:29,480
Speaker 4: THAT i don't know anybody at Turning. POINT i have

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00:44:29,520 --> 00:44:32,320
Speaker 4: no connection To Turning. Point i'm assuming they're gonna do exactly.

692
00:44:32,400 --> 00:44:36,840
Speaker 4: That but others should as. Well keep, talking keep, sharing

693
00:44:37,160 --> 00:44:39,719
Speaker 4: and to any EXTENT i can, help whether it's me

694
00:44:39,920 --> 00:44:41,840
Speaker 4: or SOMEBODY i know that you want to get access

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00:44:41,880 --> 00:44:46,160
Speaker 4: to reach, Out, absolutely keep doing. It do not, Stop

696
00:44:46,600 --> 00:44:51,080
Speaker 4: do not stop engaging and sharing and. Talking but they

697
00:44:51,120 --> 00:44:58,399
Speaker 4: didn't riot on their college. Campuses they held prayer. Vigils we're.

698
00:44:58,400 --> 00:45:04,360
Speaker 4: Different our, methodology our, philosophy our basis is.

699
00:45:04,440 --> 00:45:09,160
Speaker 2: Different is it the faith?

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00:45:09,200 --> 00:45:19,160
Speaker 4: Component Charlie kirk born, again an, evangelical a believer in his,

701
00:45:19,200 --> 00:45:23,359
Speaker 4: faith a guy who would express his. Faith were these

702
00:45:23,400 --> 00:45:26,080
Speaker 4: people like minded and therefore this is the way you?

703
00:45:26,160 --> 00:45:31,560
Speaker 4: Act was it because the conservative mind does not think of.

704
00:45:31,640 --> 00:45:36,520
Speaker 4: Destruction they think about how to engage a better, tomorrow

705
00:45:37,080 --> 00:45:39,200
Speaker 4: how to come, together as opposed to how to tear?

706
00:45:39,239 --> 00:45:44,360
Speaker 4: Down is it because as a matter of just sheer,

707
00:45:44,400 --> 00:45:48,680
Speaker 4: ideology we don't believe that destruction is the way to

708
00:45:48,719 --> 00:45:55,520
Speaker 4: get to, things But antifa does And black lives matter?

709
00:45:55,600 --> 00:46:01,799
Speaker 4: DOES i, mean we have the, data we, saw what.

710
00:46:01,920 --> 00:46:06,400
Speaker 4: Happened what are we talking. ABOUT i think it is

711
00:46:06,440 --> 00:46:12,160
Speaker 4: important to note that this horror happened and not a

712
00:46:12,360 --> 00:46:15,040
Speaker 4: single bit of damage was.

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00:46:15,080 --> 00:46:18,239
Speaker 2: DONE i think that's something you.

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00:46:18,160 --> 00:46:21,200
Speaker 4: Should share with your, kids share with your, friends share

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00:46:21,239 --> 00:46:23,800
Speaker 4: with their, spouses because in that there is a. Story

716
00:46:24,920 --> 00:46:26,600
Speaker 4: there is a story about the fact that not only

717
00:46:26,600 --> 00:46:29,279
Speaker 4: did nothing, happen we didn't even think to think that

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00:46:29,400 --> 00:46:33,680
Speaker 4: something could. It never you look at what look in the.

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Speaker 4: Mirror it never came to your. Mind you never once, said, MAN.

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Speaker 2: I really hope nobody says anything on fire. Tonight never

721
00:46:51,120 --> 00:46:51,560
Speaker 2: it never.

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00:46:51,680 --> 00:46:56,880
Speaker 4: Happened, Now clay in the chat room said that historically

723
00:46:56,880 --> 00:47:00,560
Speaker 4: black colleges and universities had bomb. Threats heard about, that

724
00:47:00,560 --> 00:47:02,239
Speaker 4: BUT i haven't seen a story about a producier land

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Speaker 4: and see if you can find.

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00:47:03,120 --> 00:47:06,080
Speaker 2: It have we found out who who did the?

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00:47:06,080 --> 00:47:10,799
Speaker 4: Threatening, OKAY i wasn't talking to you about, that, LAND

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00:47:10,840 --> 00:47:14,080
Speaker 4: i was asking a. Question you tell me that there

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00:47:14,120 --> 00:47:15,759
Speaker 4: was a, bump AND i won't say no to. That

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00:47:15,840 --> 00:47:16,920
Speaker 4: my question is who did the.

731
00:47:16,880 --> 00:47:17,680
Speaker 2: Threatening.

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00:47:18,960 --> 00:47:23,000
Speaker 4: Because i've been told very, often look at the racism

733
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Speaker 4: on college. Campuses my, gosh a noose was left in

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00:47:26,600 --> 00:47:29,560
Speaker 4: this professor's, office and it turns out the professor made the.

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00:47:29,640 --> 00:47:33,719
Speaker 4: Noose that story has happened. Repeatedly oh, look this person

736
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Speaker 4: who is black got. Attacked it turns out they're just.

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00:47:36,800 --> 00:47:42,640
Speaker 4: Smollett so with all due, Respect, clay AND i appreciate.

738
00:47:42,080 --> 00:47:45,160
Speaker 2: You coming too the chat. Room, Man you're always. Welcome

739
00:47:46,560 --> 00:47:48,040
Speaker 2: don't tell me that the threat took.

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00:47:48,080 --> 00:47:53,320
Speaker 4: Place tell me who was doing the, threatening because until

741
00:47:53,320 --> 00:47:58,560
Speaker 4: you can tell me who you got. NOTHING i can

742
00:47:58,600 --> 00:48:01,480
Speaker 4: tell you that anybody had a car yesterday unless they

743
00:48:01,480 --> 00:48:02,800
Speaker 4: live In San, francisco.

744
00:48:02,440 --> 00:48:02,839
Speaker 2: Had a car.

745
00:48:02,880 --> 00:48:07,400
Speaker 4: Today and everybody who had a house yesterday had a house.

746
00:48:07,440 --> 00:48:13,880
Speaker 4: Today and Every democrat slept easy knowing that it.

747
00:48:13,880 --> 00:48:14,800
Speaker 2: Wouldn't come.

748
00:48:16,440 --> 00:48:20,120
Speaker 4: Because the, people not even just on the political, right

749
00:48:22,520 --> 00:48:26,440
Speaker 4: the rational, people they're, moderates they're, independence they may be,

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00:48:26,560 --> 00:48:29,960
Speaker 4: religious maybe, NOT i don't, know but they're. Here they're

751
00:48:29,960 --> 00:48:31,480
Speaker 4: a part of this. Show they're a part of our,

752
00:48:31,520 --> 00:48:38,880
Speaker 4: lives they are our. Friends they should see that nothing

753
00:48:40,200 --> 00:48:44,319
Speaker 4: of a violent nature took. Place and that's a real

754
00:48:44,440 --> 00:48:48,319
Speaker 4: story about a difference in these Two americas we seem to.

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00:48:48,400 --> 00:48:52,719
Speaker 4: Have AND i think that story is worthy of mentioning

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Speaker 4: to your, kids to your friends on the barstool at

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00:48:56,200 --> 00:48:59,719
Speaker 4: happy hour a little bit later today over the, weekend

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00:49:00,800 --> 00:49:03,600
Speaker 4: grilla steak and oh you should grill a. STEAK i

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00:49:03,680 --> 00:49:06,920
Speaker 4: have some prime. Rabbis, no you're not. Invited they're all from. Me,

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Speaker 4: THEY i, know very selfish with a. Steak it's worth.

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Speaker 4: Noting And i'm glad That Governor cox did just. That

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Speaker 4: I'm Tony katz smoking the Arturro Fonte. Hemingway it's a,

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00:49:21,480 --> 00:49:26,399
Speaker 4: great great cigar for the price. Point my, advice get one,

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Speaker 4: Immediately Tony, Katz Tony katz, Today good to be with.

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Speaker 4: YOU i often discuss how the border is the biggest

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Speaker 4: story In. America bill Malugit over At Fox news has

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00:49:38,800 --> 00:49:43,240
Speaker 4: a has a story about a guy who was released

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Speaker 4: from ice custody by The biden administration In january of

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Speaker 4: twenty twenty.

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Speaker 2: Five january, thirteenth one week Before Donald trump took.

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00:49:49,920 --> 00:49:54,560
Speaker 4: Office why was he, released no significant likelihood of removal

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00:49:54,600 --> 00:49:58,600
Speaker 4: in the foreseeable. Future they could not enforce the deportation

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Speaker 4: because he's From, cuba And cuba and. Cooperate we have,

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Speaker 4: airplanes we have. PARACHUTES i don't Need cuba's cooperation at.

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00:50:11,280 --> 00:50:13,680
Speaker 2: All in the.

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00:50:13,719 --> 00:50:17,480
Speaker 4: Slightest send more. Cigars that's All i've got for. You

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00:50:17,760 --> 00:50:18,799
Speaker 4: and you don't even need A cuban.

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Speaker 2: Cigar. Today the seed is.

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00:50:20,520 --> 00:50:22,799
Speaker 4: Everywhere there's so much good stuff happening in so many,

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Speaker 4: parts In, Nicaragua, honduras The dominican it's. Spectacular i'll talk cigars.

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00:50:27,440 --> 00:50:32,560
Speaker 4: Later this guy's criminal history was involving false imprisonment in

782
00:50:32,640 --> 00:50:35,160
Speaker 4: decency with a child In, texas grand theft of a

783
00:50:35,239 --> 00:50:38,800
Speaker 4: vehicle In, florida, carjacking and false. Imprisonment he was acquitted

784
00:50:38,840 --> 00:50:43,359
Speaker 4: on the carjacking In, california convicted of false. Imprisonment and

785
00:50:43,360 --> 00:50:49,360
Speaker 4: this guy took a machete and beheaded a hotel manager

786
00:50:49,520 --> 00:50:57,720
Speaker 4: a motel manager In, Dallas. Texas it was a argument

787
00:50:57,760 --> 00:51:03,920
Speaker 4: with the motel. Manager the manager was beheaded in front

788
00:51:04,080 --> 00:51:10,160
Speaker 4: of his wife and, son to which this illegal immigrant

789
00:51:11,400 --> 00:51:17,040
Speaker 4: kicked the, head picked it up and threw it in a.

790
00:51:17,080 --> 00:51:25,520
Speaker 4: Dumpster the border continues to be the biggest story In,

791
00:51:25,560 --> 00:51:32,240
Speaker 4: america and every single move made to engage the deportations

792
00:51:32,280 --> 00:51:37,560
Speaker 4: of illegal immigrants is the right. Move the argument often

793
00:51:37,640 --> 00:51:41,080
Speaker 4: made is hard working people trying to lead a better.

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00:51:41,120 --> 00:51:45,760
Speaker 4: LIFE i don't disagree that that. EXISTS i don't disagree

795
00:51:45,800 --> 00:51:50,279
Speaker 4: that that. Exists the problem is if the argument comes

796
00:51:50,280 --> 00:51:52,719
Speaker 4: from people who will not accept the fact there's a

797
00:51:52,760 --> 00:51:57,480
Speaker 4: difference between legal and illegal. Immigration they purposefully will never

798
00:51:57,600 --> 00:51:58,880
Speaker 4: say the words.

799
00:51:59,200 --> 00:52:02,520
Speaker 2: They want to, say, immigrants as if.

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00:52:02,440 --> 00:52:08,200
Speaker 4: Somehow we're going after people who are here, legally somehow

801
00:52:08,239 --> 00:52:12,279
Speaker 4: we are the. Violators it's a, lie it's a, manipulation

802
00:52:12,840 --> 00:52:16,919
Speaker 4: it's a, fraud and, sadly there are some people who

803
00:52:16,960 --> 00:52:18,640
Speaker 4: refuse to accept reality.

804
00:52:18,239 --> 00:52:18,839
Speaker 2: And buy into.

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00:52:18,880 --> 00:52:24,799
Speaker 4: It the move that must, come that must continue to take,

806
00:52:24,840 --> 00:52:29,040
Speaker 4: place is the deportation of these people at breakneck.

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00:52:29,120 --> 00:52:35,320
Speaker 2: Speed DO i believe in speedy? Trials, no.

808
00:52:36,880 --> 00:52:39,840
Speaker 4: Which is to SAY i don't believe that a trial

809
00:52:40,080 --> 00:52:44,839
Speaker 4: should be done with speed as opposed to done.

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00:52:44,880 --> 00:52:50,000
Speaker 2: Accurately DO i believe in speedy deportations for illegal? Immigrants?

811
00:52:50,400 --> 00:52:53,480
Speaker 2: Yes DO i believe in due? Process?

812
00:52:53,560 --> 00:52:56,440
Speaker 4: Yes illegal immigrants don't have the due process of, citizens

813
00:52:56,440 --> 00:52:59,960
Speaker 4: AND i want it remembered and kill Mar Abregio. Garcia

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00:53:00,000 --> 00:53:01,799
Speaker 4: he's not A maryland, man AND i don't care if

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00:53:01,800 --> 00:53:02,960
Speaker 4: he's In uganda or anywhere.

816
00:53:02,960 --> 00:53:04,319
Speaker 2: Else as long as he's not.

817
00:53:04,440 --> 00:53:08,239
Speaker 4: Here he cannot walk free in The United, states connected

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Speaker 4: TO ms thir, team connected to human.

819
00:53:10,960 --> 00:53:15,280
Speaker 2: Trafficking who would want this? Guy no. Wonder El salvador

820
00:53:15,239 --> 00:53:16,359
Speaker 2: doesn't want them back and they took.

821
00:53:16,440 --> 00:53:25,439
Speaker 4: Him there is very clearly an argument to be made

822
00:53:27,080 --> 00:53:30,040
Speaker 4: that when they, say you, know illegal immigrants or are

823
00:53:30,080 --> 00:53:32,560
Speaker 4: immigrants commit less crimes And american. Citizens first, all we're

824
00:53:32,560 --> 00:53:35,000
Speaker 4: talking about legal, immigrants of, course and, secondly there are

825
00:53:35,080 --> 00:53:37,560
Speaker 4: less illegal immigrants than there Are american, citizens so by,

826
00:53:37,640 --> 00:53:40,120
Speaker 4: percentage of course that's. True BUT i can reduce the

827
00:53:40,120 --> 00:53:45,200
Speaker 4: amount of a legal immigrant crime to zero.

828
00:53:44,560 --> 00:53:49,600
Speaker 2: If we didn't have illegal immigrants in the. COUNTRY i,

829
00:53:49,640 --> 00:53:52,680
Speaker 2: mean that's just. True those are the.

830
00:53:52,719 --> 00:53:58,560
Speaker 4: Facts the border remains the biggest story In, america and

831
00:53:58,600 --> 00:54:01,320
Speaker 4: the first step towards our safe the insecurity is removing

832
00:54:01,320 --> 00:54:03,800
Speaker 4: the people from the country who are a criminal element

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00:54:03,840 --> 00:54:08,399
Speaker 4: who came to the country. Illegally and, Yes i'm sure

834
00:54:08,440 --> 00:54:10,319
Speaker 4: there are people who came to the country illegally who

835
00:54:10,400 --> 00:54:12,400
Speaker 4: want to lead a good. Life they should come legally

836
00:54:13,040 --> 00:54:16,120
Speaker 4: and we should say welcome with open. Arms but the

837
00:54:16,120 --> 00:54:19,279
Speaker 4: criminal element they got to go or they have to be.

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00:54:19,280 --> 00:54:26,239
Speaker 4: Imprisoned and that's. That that motel manager should be.

839
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Speaker 2: Alive, Today i'm turning. CAT i share with you now

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00:54:30,520 --> 00:54:33,560
Speaker 2: some of my commentary from last. Night if you.

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Speaker 4: Subscribe on, YouTube you saw the video or follow On

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00:54:37,920 --> 00:54:41,240
Speaker 4: TWITTER x you saw it as. Well Tony, Katz Tony katz,

843
00:54:41,280 --> 00:54:43,919
Speaker 4: today good to be with, you having had a day

844
00:54:43,960 --> 00:54:48,200
Speaker 4: to take in the assassination Of Charlie, kirk where people

845
00:54:48,280 --> 00:54:54,719
Speaker 4: are engaging in responses where my own head was outside

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00:54:54,760 --> 00:54:58,080
Speaker 4: of just the, disgust in the, Shock what is the

847
00:54:58,200 --> 00:55:01,200
Speaker 4: central thesis THAT I i wanted to get across to.

848
00:55:01,239 --> 00:55:02,000
Speaker 2: You SO i.

849
00:55:01,920 --> 00:55:06,080
Speaker 4: Shared this last night and NOW i share this with

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00:55:06,120 --> 00:55:10,239
Speaker 4: you that what we saw was the efforts and the

851
00:55:10,280 --> 00:55:13,239
Speaker 4: desire to silence and that is of course the goal of.

852
00:55:13,320 --> 00:55:19,600
Speaker 4: Terrorism this was political. Terrorism. Listen, so having had now

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00:55:19,640 --> 00:55:25,359
Speaker 4: a chance to process the assassination Of Charlie, kirk first

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00:55:25,840 --> 00:55:31,640
Speaker 4: assassination seems to fit what it is we saw there

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00:55:31,640 --> 00:55:37,240
Speaker 4: In utah or In utah At Utah Valley. University, Yeah

856
00:55:37,400 --> 00:55:42,760
Speaker 4: Charlie kirk wasn't a, politician but certainly, political and certainly

857
00:55:43,239 --> 00:55:43,680
Speaker 4: one can.

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00:55:43,680 --> 00:55:44,720
Speaker 2: Argue even though we don't.

859
00:55:44,520 --> 00:55:48,320
Speaker 4: Have a shooter in custody, yet absolutely we've got ourselves

860
00:55:48,360 --> 00:55:52,040
Speaker 4: somebody who was killed because of their political belief because

861
00:55:52,040 --> 00:55:55,359
Speaker 4: of their political, affiliation because their political, connections because of

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00:55:55,400 --> 00:55:58,000
Speaker 4: what they. Said AND i think that the term assassination.

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Speaker 4: Fits and a lot of, people a lot of radio,

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Speaker 4: hosts a lot OF tv people who had connection to,

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Speaker 4: him have all had their commentaries and they've ranged from

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00:56:08,880 --> 00:56:19,600
Speaker 4: angry and rage filled to sad and. INTROSPECTIVE i wouldn't

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00:56:19,600 --> 00:56:23,040
Speaker 4: actually expect anything. Else and CERTAINLY i think for a

868
00:56:23,080 --> 00:56:26,080
Speaker 4: lot of people they saw for the first time exactly

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00:56:26,120 --> 00:56:27,479
Speaker 4: the kind of Reach Charlie kirk.

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Speaker 2: HAD i didn't Know.

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00:56:29,280 --> 00:56:33,880
Speaker 4: CHARLIE i met him once at A Sea pack event years.

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00:56:33,880 --> 00:56:38,320
Speaker 4: AGO i spoke at one Turning point Event chapter event

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Speaker 4: here In. Indianapolis that's my total amounts of. CONNECTION a

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00:56:41,880 --> 00:56:43,600
Speaker 4: lot of people will tell you about all the connections they.

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00:56:43,640 --> 00:56:44,680
Speaker 2: HAD i don't question.

876
00:56:45,680 --> 00:56:51,560
Speaker 4: THOSE i do ask what our plan, is because one

877
00:56:51,600 --> 00:56:54,799
Speaker 4: thing that is clear is that the rubicon has been.

878
00:56:54,840 --> 00:56:59,360
Speaker 4: Crossed if indeed we're shooting at people for their political,

879
00:56:59,360 --> 00:57:01,279
Speaker 4: Beliefs we're not talking.

880
00:57:01,000 --> 00:57:02,399
Speaker 2: About candidates we're not talking about.

881
00:57:02,400 --> 00:57:06,520
Speaker 4: Politicians if we go through, history we will see example

882
00:57:06,520 --> 00:57:12,280
Speaker 4: after example after example of politicians being, attacked being killed

883
00:57:12,320 --> 00:57:16,000
Speaker 4: for political beliefs by radicals and. Others we've seen this

884
00:57:16,080 --> 00:57:18,080
Speaker 4: in The United, States we've seen this in other. Countries

885
00:57:19,480 --> 00:57:24,880
Speaker 4: the assassination Of Charlie kirk is. Different this is crossing the.

886
00:57:24,960 --> 00:57:27,640
Speaker 4: Rubicon some people on the left want to, say, well

887
00:57:27,640 --> 00:57:29,640
Speaker 4: how come you're not talking about this murder or that.

888
00:57:29,720 --> 00:57:32,040
Speaker 2: Murder we're talking about a lot of. Murders we're talking

889
00:57:32,080 --> 00:57:33,439
Speaker 2: about a lot of horror that's going.

890
00:57:33,480 --> 00:57:37,760
Speaker 4: On we talked About Arena zarutska In, charlotte and we

891
00:57:37,760 --> 00:57:41,000
Speaker 4: were told that we were just inventing that, story making

892
00:57:41,000 --> 00:57:43,040
Speaker 4: it more than it. Was this woman who was stabbed

893
00:57:43,080 --> 00:57:45,720
Speaker 4: to death on the light rail and no one came

894
00:57:45,760 --> 00:57:46,000
Speaker 4: to her.

895
00:57:46,040 --> 00:57:48,600
Speaker 2: Aid they ran from trying to help.

896
00:57:48,640 --> 00:57:51,680
Speaker 4: Her this is about a broken society that we're witnessing

897
00:57:51,760 --> 00:57:55,000
Speaker 4: and we're seeing and some people want immediately, say, well

898
00:57:55,040 --> 00:57:56,720
Speaker 4: it's because you won't get rid of. Guns if you

899
00:57:56,760 --> 00:57:59,560
Speaker 4: got rid of, guns you wouldn't have these. Problems millions

900
00:57:59,560 --> 00:58:03,560
Speaker 4: and millions and millions of law abiding gun. Owners the

901
00:58:03,600 --> 00:58:06,320
Speaker 4: gun is not the. Issue it is the people firing the.

902
00:58:06,360 --> 00:58:09,280
Speaker 4: Gun that is the. Issue and while the left may

903
00:58:09,360 --> 00:58:12,800
Speaker 4: think that that's somehow avoiding the bigger story where you're

904
00:58:12,800 --> 00:58:15,120
Speaker 4: gonna have more of these, problems not if we engage

905
00:58:15,120 --> 00:58:18,600
Speaker 4: culturally about what it is that we're. Seeing that is

906
00:58:18,640 --> 00:58:21,920
Speaker 4: a hard. SUBJECT i don't claim to have every. Answer

907
00:58:22,640 --> 00:58:28,959
Speaker 4: WHAT i, bring hopefully is the reminder that a day

908
00:58:29,120 --> 00:58:33,920
Speaker 4: was taken to, process WHICH i think makes, sense and,

909
00:58:34,000 --> 00:58:37,560
Speaker 4: tomorrow just like every radio HOST i know is on

910
00:58:37,560 --> 00:58:39,760
Speaker 4: the air, today they'll be on the air. Tomorrow just

911
00:58:39,800 --> 00:58:43,360
Speaker 4: like everybody who does commentary was speaking, today they're gonna speak.

912
00:58:43,400 --> 00:58:44,920
Speaker 2: Tomorrow and that is the only.

913
00:58:45,000 --> 00:58:48,480
Speaker 4: Answer our answers have to come in a ballot. Box

914
00:58:48,520 --> 00:58:50,040
Speaker 4: they cannot come via the barrel of the.

915
00:58:50,080 --> 00:58:52,920
Speaker 2: Gun but that doesn't mean we're supposed to be people who.

916
00:58:52,920 --> 00:58:55,880
Speaker 4: Wait bad things to happen to, us as if somehow

917
00:58:55,920 --> 00:59:00,480
Speaker 4: martyrdom is. Valuable let's be, clear it's. Not Charlie kirk

918
00:59:00,680 --> 00:59:03,960
Speaker 4: was better for the conversation.

919
00:59:03,600 --> 00:59:07,240
Speaker 2: Alive than as a. Martyr and while people may want

920
00:59:07,240 --> 00:59:08,720
Speaker 2: to make him, one and he may very.

921
00:59:08,560 --> 00:59:11,240
Speaker 4: Well end up being, one and there's a legacy that

922
00:59:11,400 --> 00:59:15,720
Speaker 4: clearly can grow from, here and most probably, will we're

923
00:59:15,720 --> 00:59:17,160
Speaker 4: not better off because he's.

924
00:59:17,240 --> 00:59:19,520
Speaker 2: Gone there's no win in.

925
00:59:19,560 --> 00:59:24,680
Speaker 4: This, No, no what is best is that all issues

926
00:59:24,720 --> 00:59:26,760
Speaker 4: get settled at the ballot box and we keep.

927
00:59:26,800 --> 00:59:30,000
Speaker 2: Speaking, now in order to keep, speaking you.

928
00:59:30,000 --> 00:59:32,760
Speaker 4: Have to accept the fact that there is a violent

929
00:59:32,880 --> 00:59:36,560
Speaker 4: element out, there radicalized for a whole series of, reasons

930
00:59:36,720 --> 00:59:40,240
Speaker 4: and that isn't going to go away. Overnight there is

931
00:59:40,400 --> 00:59:44,280
Speaker 4: no switch that changes this that all of a sudden

932
00:59:44,320 --> 00:59:47,480
Speaker 4: gets people to, say, oh, oh, okay we'll just agree to,

933
00:59:47,480 --> 00:59:50,160
Speaker 4: disagree or we'll go vote and sometimes we'll win and

934
00:59:50,200 --> 00:59:54,680
Speaker 4: sometimes we'll. Lose, no that's not. It the only way

935
00:59:54,840 --> 00:59:58,640
Speaker 4: out is, through and that means that you still have

936
00:59:58,720 --> 01:00:00,960
Speaker 4: to do your. Events we still have to go meet,

937
01:00:00,960 --> 01:00:03,000
Speaker 4: people you still have to walk down the. Street they

938
01:00:03,040 --> 01:00:05,640
Speaker 4: still have to go out to. Dinner there are violent

939
01:00:05,720 --> 01:00:09,600
Speaker 4: people out there who have gotten themselves totally into the

940
01:00:09,680 --> 01:00:12,960
Speaker 4: idea that somehow the people on the political right have

941
01:00:13,040 --> 01:00:16,560
Speaker 4: to be. Destroyed you. Know it's The Charles croudhammer, Line

942
01:00:16,640 --> 01:00:19,480
Speaker 4: rest his. Soul the right things the left is, wrong

943
01:00:19,600 --> 01:00:24,640
Speaker 4: and the left thinks the right is. Evil, now there's

944
01:00:24,680 --> 01:00:26,040
Speaker 4: a lot of truth to, that and there will be

945
01:00:26,080 --> 01:00:27,640
Speaker 4: people on the left to, say, well there's plenty of

946
01:00:27,680 --> 01:00:32,120
Speaker 4: violence from the political Right the argument before us is

947
01:00:32,720 --> 01:00:37,960
Speaker 4: who is killing? Whom and the recent, history even if

948
01:00:37,960 --> 01:00:40,600
Speaker 4: we only go back to the shooting Of Congressman Steve,

949
01:00:40,680 --> 01:00:45,240
Speaker 4: scalise is that the left is killing the. Right we

950
01:00:45,280 --> 01:00:48,080
Speaker 4: want to talk about what happened In minnesota where lawmakers are.

951
01:00:48,120 --> 01:00:50,640
Speaker 4: Killed we still don't have the full story, there and we,

952
01:00:50,680 --> 01:00:56,680
Speaker 4: should but we are living in a moment that this

953
01:00:56,800 --> 01:00:58,640
Speaker 4: cannot be denied and it shouldn't.

954
01:00:58,640 --> 01:01:01,200
Speaker 2: Be does this mean it's everybody on the. Left absolutely.

955
01:01:01,240 --> 01:01:03,120
Speaker 4: Not does this mean that there are people who are

956
01:01:03,160 --> 01:01:06,480
Speaker 4: political leaders on the left who are absolutely excusing this.

957
01:01:06,600 --> 01:01:10,000
Speaker 2: Behavior, yes it, does all of them know too.

958
01:01:10,040 --> 01:01:13,280
Speaker 4: Many, yes, certainly if you were to watch The TikTok,

959
01:01:13,280 --> 01:01:16,720
Speaker 4: crowd you'd be sickened by the people who are cheering

960
01:01:17,040 --> 01:01:21,160
Speaker 4: the death Of Charlie, kirk cheering the killing of people.

961
01:01:20,920 --> 01:01:21,560
Speaker 2: On the political.

962
01:01:21,640 --> 01:01:25,120
Speaker 4: Right going down That Matthew dowd line of reasoning that

963
01:01:25,160 --> 01:01:29,320
Speaker 4: he said ON msnbc just an hour after the shooting took, place,

964
01:01:29,760 --> 01:01:32,040
Speaker 4: well you, know you say hateful, things you should expect

965
01:01:32,040 --> 01:01:36,840
Speaker 4: hateful things to, happen which is a different way of, saying,

966
01:01:37,160 --> 01:01:40,040
Speaker 4: Well Charlie kirk's skirt was too, short and that's why

967
01:01:40,080 --> 01:01:46,360
Speaker 4: he was raped that is the exact same disgusting, argument

968
01:01:47,480 --> 01:01:51,280
Speaker 4: and to the credit OF, msnbc they Fired, Matthew dad and.

969
01:01:51,360 --> 01:01:57,720
Speaker 4: Good the only thing we can do is, tomorrow wake,

970
01:01:57,880 --> 01:02:01,040
Speaker 4: up drink our, coffee brush our our, teeth and go

971
01:02:01,120 --> 01:02:06,120
Speaker 4: about our, lives continuing these, conversations our conversations of what

972
01:02:06,280 --> 01:02:08,640
Speaker 4: is right and what is, wrong on our conversations of

973
01:02:08,680 --> 01:02:11,320
Speaker 4: how you create a better society and the things that

974
01:02:11,360 --> 01:02:16,200
Speaker 4: are doing great damage to, society and convincing people that

975
01:02:16,360 --> 01:02:18,680
Speaker 4: we are right and they are wrong and they should

976
01:02:18,760 --> 01:02:21,320
Speaker 4: vote in a certain direction so we can engage the

977
01:02:21,360 --> 01:02:24,440
Speaker 4: policies that create the more perfect union that get us

978
01:02:24,440 --> 01:02:29,960
Speaker 4: to the better. PLACE i am no fool, GOSH i hope.

979
01:02:29,960 --> 01:02:33,800
Speaker 4: Not is there going to be more? Violence why WOULD

980
01:02:33,840 --> 01:02:38,000
Speaker 4: i believe there wouldn't. Be DO i believe that any

981
01:02:38,280 --> 01:02:43,640
Speaker 4: radio hosts or television commentator is totally? Safe absolutely, Not absolutely,

982
01:02:43,680 --> 01:02:46,720
Speaker 4: Not and that's because for us we're more in the public.

983
01:02:46,760 --> 01:02:50,440
Speaker 4: Eye DO i believe that anybody is safe because of

984
01:02:50,480 --> 01:02:53,040
Speaker 4: Their facebook, post or because of their ex, post because

985
01:02:53,080 --> 01:02:57,640
Speaker 4: of Their instagram posts or their TikTok. NO i don't

986
01:02:57,680 --> 01:03:01,320
Speaker 4: believe there's actually any difference at this moment between what

987
01:03:01,480 --> 01:03:05,000
Speaker 4: you're writing about what you're sharing and What i'm sharing

988
01:03:05,680 --> 01:03:09,200
Speaker 4: maybe a different. PLATFORM i may have a bigger platform than,

989
01:03:09,240 --> 01:03:11,520
Speaker 4: you and there are other people who absolutely have a

990
01:03:11,560 --> 01:03:12,640
Speaker 4: bigger platform THAN i.

991
01:03:12,720 --> 01:03:16,440
Speaker 2: Do but we are all in the same.

992
01:03:16,240 --> 01:03:20,000
Speaker 4: Boat which is there are people out there who believe

993
01:03:20,000 --> 01:03:22,520
Speaker 4: we shouldn't be allowed to. Speak they have been told

994
01:03:22,800 --> 01:03:25,120
Speaker 4: so often that we are evil and a threat to

995
01:03:25,160 --> 01:03:29,240
Speaker 4: democracy that they have internalized it and they believe that

996
01:03:29,280 --> 01:03:32,200
Speaker 4: they have to do something about. IT i do believe

997
01:03:32,240 --> 01:03:34,440
Speaker 4: this is the. Case when you take a look at

998
01:03:34,440 --> 01:03:37,840
Speaker 4: the shooting Of President Trump, Butler. Pennsylvania this was absolutely the.

999
01:03:37,880 --> 01:03:41,680
Speaker 4: Case that was a lone, wolf someone who felt compelled

1000
01:03:41,720 --> 01:03:44,840
Speaker 4: to do something because they've been told he is a.

1001
01:03:44,720 --> 01:03:46,760
Speaker 2: Threat when he is not a.

1002
01:03:46,840 --> 01:03:51,959
Speaker 4: THREAT a guy who listens to, judges appeals, decisions, sure

1003
01:03:52,400 --> 01:03:54,160
Speaker 4: utilizing the justice system is not a.

1004
01:03:54,200 --> 01:03:58,160
Speaker 2: Dictator as a matter of a sheer. Definition there is no.

1005
01:03:58,120 --> 01:04:00,640
Speaker 4: Debate THAT i am right about, this that the facts

1006
01:04:00,640 --> 01:04:03,160
Speaker 4: are on my side and on the side of rational.

1007
01:04:03,200 --> 01:04:06,040
Speaker 4: Thoughts the idea That trump is a dictator is. Madness

1008
01:04:06,160 --> 01:04:10,040
Speaker 4: but this is bigger Than Donald. Trump this is about

1009
01:04:10,040 --> 01:04:12,720
Speaker 4: people who believe that anybody who disagrees with them is

1010
01:04:12,920 --> 01:04:16,760
Speaker 4: that same threat and has to be taken. Out anybody

1011
01:04:16,800 --> 01:04:19,960
Speaker 4: who doesn't say what they believe is somehow an, aggressor

1012
01:04:20,000 --> 01:04:24,080
Speaker 4: is somehow attacking and somehow, vilifying is somehow. Demeaning my

1013
01:04:24,160 --> 01:04:29,360
Speaker 4: disagreement with, policy my disagreements with, actions is more than,

1014
01:04:29,440 --> 01:04:34,000
Speaker 4: acceptable and so is. Yours and because we might disagree with,

1015
01:04:34,080 --> 01:04:39,480
Speaker 4: others sadly and, sickeningly we are the ones being. Threatened

1016
01:04:40,880 --> 01:04:44,320
Speaker 4: and the only way out is through the only way

1017
01:04:44,440 --> 01:04:46,840
Speaker 4: out of this is to continue to be people who

1018
01:04:46,880 --> 01:04:50,040
Speaker 4: speak about what it is we, believe utilizing, facts logic

1019
01:04:50,120 --> 01:04:50,880
Speaker 4: and reason at all.

1020
01:04:50,920 --> 01:04:52,920
Speaker 2: Times what's at least my way.

1021
01:04:52,680 --> 01:04:58,160
Speaker 4: Of doing it and, engaging trying to persuade and not being. Deterred,

1022
01:04:59,400 --> 01:05:02,920
Speaker 4: yes do you believe other violent acts will? Happen and,

1023
01:05:03,000 --> 01:05:07,040
Speaker 4: YES i think it's horrific and gross and disgusting and,

1024
01:05:07,200 --> 01:05:12,080
Speaker 4: evil absolutely in every single. Way But i'm going to

1025
01:05:12,160 --> 01:05:14,480
Speaker 4: keep showing up to. Places AM i going to be

1026
01:05:14,480 --> 01:05:16,920
Speaker 4: aware and WHEN i do events AS i do about

1027
01:05:16,960 --> 01:05:19,640
Speaker 4: security even more? So AND i already have security at my?

1028
01:05:19,680 --> 01:05:22,000
Speaker 4: Events AM i going to be aware of the security

1029
01:05:22,040 --> 01:05:24,360
Speaker 4: at EVENTS i attend and ensure that it is?

1030
01:05:24,440 --> 01:05:24,800
Speaker 2: Proper?

1031
01:05:24,920 --> 01:05:28,880
Speaker 4: Absolutely but all the security in the world sometimes doesn't.

1032
01:05:28,920 --> 01:05:32,320
Speaker 4: Stop the madman doesn't stop the person who has been

1033
01:05:32,400 --> 01:05:35,880
Speaker 4: so brainwashed and so utterly mentally, destroyed filled with such

1034
01:05:35,920 --> 01:05:38,600
Speaker 4: hate that it rocks the brain and leads them to horrific,

1035
01:05:38,640 --> 01:05:41,000
Speaker 4: action like we saw With Charlie.

1036
01:05:41,040 --> 01:05:44,080
Speaker 2: KIRK i have.

1037
01:05:44,160 --> 01:05:48,520
Speaker 4: Not seen an incident that has moved so many people

1038
01:05:48,560 --> 01:05:52,360
Speaker 4: in so many. Ways AND i didn't Know, charlie AND

1039
01:05:52,400 --> 01:05:54,000
Speaker 4: i know a lot of people who didn't Know charlie

1040
01:05:54,280 --> 01:05:56,760
Speaker 4: who are just in a, daze, like my, gosh what

1041
01:05:56,880 --> 01:05:59,720
Speaker 4: has happened? Here what is happening? Here, well what is

1042
01:05:59,720 --> 01:06:05,960
Speaker 4: happen happening here is that years of cultural, rot years

1043
01:06:06,160 --> 01:06:11,919
Speaker 4: of these horrific, claims years from the Time Charles krauthammer

1044
01:06:12,040 --> 01:06:15,360
Speaker 4: rests his soul said those, words the right things the

1045
01:06:15,440 --> 01:06:17,400
Speaker 4: left is, wrong and the left thinks the right is.

1046
01:06:17,440 --> 01:06:22,120
Speaker 4: Evil it has built itself, Up it built itself up

1047
01:06:22,160 --> 01:06:22,520
Speaker 4: to the.

1048
01:06:22,560 --> 01:06:26,680
Speaker 2: Zenith and it doesn't stop. Overnight there is no.

1049
01:06:26,800 --> 01:06:31,080
Speaker 4: Switch the only way out is through where we continue to,

1050
01:06:31,120 --> 01:06:33,920
Speaker 4: speak where we continue to, engage where we continue to

1051
01:06:33,920 --> 01:06:38,080
Speaker 4: try and. Persuade we protect ourselves to the best of our.

1052
01:06:38,080 --> 01:06:41,919
Speaker 4: Ability we utilize Our Second amendment. Rights, unquestionably we make

1053
01:06:42,000 --> 01:06:44,240
Speaker 4: sure to the best of our ability that the security

1054
01:06:44,280 --> 01:06:46,920
Speaker 4: is there without giving up our, liberty without giving up our,

1055
01:06:46,920 --> 01:06:48,480
Speaker 4: freedom and without living in any.

1056
01:06:48,600 --> 01:06:50,560
Speaker 2: Fear you have to.

1057
01:06:50,520 --> 01:06:52,080
Speaker 4: Walk down the, street you have to go to the,

1058
01:06:52,080 --> 01:06:55,600
Speaker 4: store and you are allowed to speak your, mind and

1059
01:06:55,680 --> 01:06:59,040
Speaker 4: you should even if you disagree with, me WHICH i

1060
01:06:59,080 --> 01:07:00,200
Speaker 4: think is, badness but you're.

1061
01:07:00,240 --> 01:07:02,800
Speaker 2: Allowed you shouldn't be afraid to.

1062
01:07:04,920 --> 01:07:09,520
Speaker 4: The fear is the, desire because as much as we

1063
01:07:09,600 --> 01:07:13,400
Speaker 4: can call what happened To Charlie kirk in, assassination we

1064
01:07:13,440 --> 01:07:14,560
Speaker 4: should call it what it.

1065
01:07:14,680 --> 01:07:14,800
Speaker 2: Is.

1066
01:07:15,960 --> 01:07:21,120
Speaker 4: Terrorism this is about trying to terrorize others into, silence

1067
01:07:21,600 --> 01:07:24,840
Speaker 4: so they don't, engage so they don't, persuade so they

1068
01:07:25,000 --> 01:07:28,880
Speaker 4: don't bring it to the ballot. Box they should live

1069
01:07:29,280 --> 01:07:35,200
Speaker 4: in fear and quiet and. Submit it's not The american,

1070
01:07:35,200 --> 01:07:39,920
Speaker 4: way and it's not your. Way AND i would only suggest,

1071
01:07:40,200 --> 01:07:43,160
Speaker 4: that no matter how hard or how frightening it. Is

1072
01:07:43,200 --> 01:07:46,760
Speaker 4: AND i get, YOU i hear, YOU i understand. THIS

1073
01:07:47,880 --> 01:07:50,480
Speaker 4: i don't think we're any. DIFFERENT i think we're in

1074
01:07:50,520 --> 01:07:54,920
Speaker 4: the same, boat no matter how. Frightening we don't give

1075
01:07:54,960 --> 01:08:00,680
Speaker 4: in to, terrorists not now and not. Ever all the

1076
01:08:00,720 --> 01:08:03,120
Speaker 4: thoughts and prayers in the world For Charlie kirk's family

1077
01:08:03,480 --> 01:08:04,840
Speaker 4: and friends who are.

1078
01:08:04,720 --> 01:08:06,880
Speaker 2: Dealing with this and will be for the rest of their.

1079
01:08:06,880 --> 01:08:12,360
Speaker 4: Lives for all of. Us keep, Talking i'll be. Listening

1080
01:08:13,040 --> 01:08:17,280
Speaker 4: agree or. Disagree I'm Tony. Katz so The dow has

1081
01:08:17,320 --> 01:08:20,880
Speaker 4: been down today and The nasdaq has been moving, up

1082
01:08:20,880 --> 01:08:28,960
Speaker 4: and everybody is under the real opinion that the interest

1083
01:08:29,000 --> 01:08:31,559
Speaker 4: rates are going to get. Cut Tony, Katz Tony katz,

1084
01:08:31,600 --> 01:08:35,320
Speaker 4: today good to be with. YOU i would certainly like

1085
01:08:35,360 --> 01:08:39,639
Speaker 4: to see what. HAPPENS i don't think the inflation shows that.

1086
01:08:39,720 --> 01:08:43,840
Speaker 4: NUMBER i don't think that it shows that we can.

1087
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Speaker 2: Cut.

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Speaker 4: RATES i get That i'm gonna get yelled, at but

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01:08:49,560 --> 01:08:54,720
Speaker 4: inflation was. Up the numbers came out that came out

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01:08:54,840 --> 01:08:58,599
Speaker 4: yesterday show the consumer price index up two point nine

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01:08:58,640 --> 01:09:07,040
Speaker 4: percent from a year. Earlier prices? Up why because? Tariffs thank,

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Speaker 4: you thank you very. Much, swatch those are the watch.

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01:09:11,080 --> 01:09:15,760
Speaker 4: People they're a massive watch. Manufacturer they have launched a

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01:09:15,880 --> 01:09:21,120
Speaker 4: special edition watch called The What If tariffs and the

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01:09:21,160 --> 01:09:24,320
Speaker 4: watch face switches the position of the three and the

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01:09:24,439 --> 01:09:28,679
Speaker 4: nine to represent the thirty nine percent tax imposed On swiss.

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01:09:28,760 --> 01:09:32,000
Speaker 4: Imports it's it's very. Clever so the nine is not

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01:09:32,360 --> 01:09:34,280
Speaker 4: on the nine. Positions in the three, position the three

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Speaker 4: is not in the three, positions in the nine. Position

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01:09:36,400 --> 01:09:38,120
Speaker 4: and let me tell you guys, KNOW i do work

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Speaker 4: Von reeste dot com used promo code cats get your

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01:09:43,640 --> 01:09:46,679
Speaker 4: discount thrilled to me their brand ambassad love these watches

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Speaker 4: assembled in The United. States, Well i've been working on

1105
01:09:48,680 --> 01:09:52,120
Speaker 4: something And i'm watching how tariffs are affecting this plan

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01:09:52,200 --> 01:09:57,120
Speaker 4: THAT i. Have they are affecting all, things, everything. Everywhere

1107
01:09:58,600 --> 01:10:04,600
Speaker 4: and yet the average rate on the thirty year fixed is.

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01:10:04,720 --> 01:10:08,760
Speaker 4: Down it's at its lowest level in nearly a, year

1109
01:10:09,800 --> 01:10:12,080
Speaker 4: six point three five percent from the six and a,

1110
01:10:12,120 --> 01:10:14,400
Speaker 4: half which was already. Lower And i've been talking about

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01:10:14,520 --> 01:10:16,840
Speaker 4: the ten year treasury has been into the four point

1112
01:10:16,960 --> 01:10:19,880
Speaker 4: zero zero. World it's ticked up a little bit. TODAY

1113
01:10:20,400 --> 01:10:22,040
Speaker 4: i don't know if this is just temporard is gonna

1114
01:10:22,040 --> 01:10:24,400
Speaker 4: come back. Down the thirty year is based on the

1115
01:10:24,400 --> 01:10:28,600
Speaker 4: ten year, treasury so that might be helpful to. Homeowners

1116
01:10:29,560 --> 01:10:33,479
Speaker 4: these numbers don't say that interest rates are coming, unless

1117
01:10:33,520 --> 01:10:36,040
Speaker 4: as we agree with Doctor Matt, will we have to

1118
01:10:36,240 --> 01:10:38,840
Speaker 4: cut things off of the balance sheet of THE. Fed

1119
01:10:39,920 --> 01:10:41,519
Speaker 4: and an audit of THE fed is not the worst

1120
01:10:41,520 --> 01:10:43,800
Speaker 4: idea in the world now is it's keep it.

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01:10:43,800 --> 01:10:45,920
Speaker 2: Here I'm Tony. Katz this Is Tony katz.

1122
01:10:45,680 --> 01:11:03,000
Speaker 1: Today lie from Ball hartmyer and The crossroads Of.

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01:11:03,040 --> 01:11:06,080
Speaker 2: America It's Tony katz.

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01:11:06,080 --> 01:11:13,880
Speaker 4: Today earlier, Today President trump made the. Announcements he made

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01:11:13,920 --> 01:11:18,880
Speaker 4: it On fox and simply, said, yeah we've got a

1126
01:11:19,000 --> 01:11:20,720
Speaker 4: suspect in.

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01:11:20,800 --> 01:11:24,880
Speaker 12: Custody, yesterday you were at the nine eleven. Memorial we

1128
01:11:24,880 --> 01:11:27,200
Speaker 12: were all watching. That Jadie vance was supposed to be with.

1129
01:11:27,240 --> 01:11:29,519
Speaker 12: You he went out to be With Charlie kirk's family

1130
01:11:29,880 --> 01:11:33,760
Speaker 12: and to get the body back to his hometown In.

1131
01:11:33,840 --> 01:11:36,800
Speaker 12: Arizona and you said you were going to reward him

1132
01:11:36,840 --> 01:11:38,800
Speaker 12: The Presidential medal Of, freedom which is.

1133
01:11:38,920 --> 01:11:39,439
Speaker 2: Very nice of.

1134
01:11:39,479 --> 01:11:41,160
Speaker 7: You any updates on the.

1135
01:11:41,240 --> 01:11:45,600
Speaker 13: Suspect, yeah CAN i always, SAY i, think just to

1136
01:11:45,640 --> 01:11:48,680
Speaker 13: protect us all and So fox doesn't get, SUED i

1137
01:11:48,680 --> 01:11:50,960
Speaker 13: think we all don't get sued and everything. Else BUT

1138
01:11:51,640 --> 01:11:55,080
Speaker 13: i think with a high degree of, certainty we have

1139
01:11:55,240 --> 01:11:56,320
Speaker 13: him in.

1140
01:11:56,400 --> 01:12:01,519
Speaker 8: Custody in. Custody everyone did a great. Job we worked

1141
01:12:01,520 --> 01:12:04,720
Speaker 8: with the local, police the, governor everybody did a great.

1142
01:12:04,800 --> 01:12:08,920
Speaker 8: Job you, know getting somebody that you start off with absolutely,

1143
01:12:08,960 --> 01:12:10,880
Speaker 8: nothing and we started off with the clip that made

1144
01:12:10,920 --> 01:12:12,000
Speaker 8: it look like an ant.

1145
01:12:12,479 --> 01:12:15,400
Speaker 2: That was almost. Useless we just saw there was somebody up.

1146
01:12:15,439 --> 01:12:18,800
Speaker 8: There and so much work has been done over the

1147
01:12:18,840 --> 01:12:19,639
Speaker 8: list two and a half.

1148
01:12:19,720 --> 01:12:20,080
Speaker 2: Days you.

1149
01:12:20,080 --> 01:12:22,040
Speaker 8: Know it's amazing actually when you start off with that

1150
01:12:22,080 --> 01:12:25,600
Speaker 8: and then all of a sudden you get lucky or

1151
01:12:25,720 --> 01:12:26,840
Speaker 8: talent or whatever it.

1152
01:12:26,880 --> 01:12:29,400
Speaker 2: Is but, yeah WE'RE i think we're in great. Shape

1153
01:12:29,479 --> 01:12:30,439
Speaker 2: that's the pretty and.

1154
01:12:30,400 --> 01:12:33,519
Speaker 4: There's nothing wrong with getting. Lucky i'll take getting lucky

1155
01:12:34,280 --> 01:12:37,080
Speaker 4: every day of the. Week Tony, Katz Tony kats, today

1156
01:12:37,080 --> 01:12:38,599
Speaker 4: IF i didn't say, low good to be with. You

1157
01:12:39,040 --> 01:12:43,680
Speaker 4: so there was a press conference about the arrest and the.

1158
01:12:43,720 --> 01:12:45,800
Speaker 4: Apprehension i'm going to bring that to you as much

1159
01:12:45,800 --> 01:12:48,519
Speaker 4: AS i can of. It it played earlier and SO

1160
01:12:48,600 --> 01:12:51,080
Speaker 4: i recorded it AND i made my commentary, throughout And

1161
01:12:51,080 --> 01:12:52,800
Speaker 4: i'm going to bring that all to you so you

1162
01:12:52,800 --> 01:12:55,519
Speaker 4: don't miss any part of. It what was said By Casher,

1163
01:12:55,520 --> 01:13:00,760
Speaker 4: tell THE fbi, Director Spencer, cox the governor Of utah and.

1164
01:13:00,840 --> 01:13:04,280
Speaker 4: Others and So i've got that coming up in a little,

1165
01:13:04,320 --> 01:13:07,759
Speaker 4: bit DON'T i don't want to miss out.

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01:13:07,640 --> 01:13:08,960
Speaker 2: On some other. Stories of, course this is.

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01:13:09,120 --> 01:13:12,960
Speaker 4: Massive finding the person who did this To Charlie kirk

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01:13:13,000 --> 01:13:18,280
Speaker 4: Assassinated Charlie kirk is. Huge and then if you haven't heard,

1169
01:13:18,320 --> 01:13:22,160
Speaker 4: it my conversation about what it is that we saw

1170
01:13:23,160 --> 01:13:26,479
Speaker 4: there In, utah and people questioning whether you call this

1171
01:13:26,760 --> 01:13:30,080
Speaker 4: an assassination Because Charlie kirk was not a, politician AND

1172
01:13:30,400 --> 01:13:32,559
Speaker 4: i argue that you absolutely can.

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01:13:32,400 --> 01:13:35,520
Speaker 2: Call it an. Assassination BUT i am.

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01:13:35,680 --> 01:13:39,320
Speaker 4: Here to say that this is quite clearly political. Terrorism

1175
01:13:39,760 --> 01:13:41,200
Speaker 4: there's not a question.

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01:13:40,920 --> 01:13:43,639
Speaker 2: Nor doubt in my, mind AND i don't think it.

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01:13:43,600 --> 01:13:47,120
Speaker 4: Should be in any. Mind i'm going to make this.

1178
01:13:47,360 --> 01:13:51,479
Speaker 4: Argument the objective here was to stop certain people from

1179
01:13:51,520 --> 01:13:56,240
Speaker 4: engaging in certain conversations because they disapproved of the, conversation

1180
01:13:56,360 --> 01:13:59,800
Speaker 4: but even more so because they didn't want anybody else

1181
01:13:59,840 --> 01:14:03,600
Speaker 4: to hear the conversation and maybe, think, ooh that's. Interesting

1182
01:14:04,479 --> 01:14:07,240
Speaker 4: when we take a look at the concepts of the

1183
01:14:07,240 --> 01:14:11,760
Speaker 4: suppression of, speech one of the things that we fail

1184
01:14:11,840 --> 01:14:15,519
Speaker 4: to mention is that the purpose of suppressing speech is

1185
01:14:15,720 --> 01:14:19,360
Speaker 4: not all about so that person can't say. ANYTHING i

1186
01:14:19,400 --> 01:14:22,360
Speaker 4: don't like what they have to, say what they say triggers,

1187
01:14:22,400 --> 01:14:25,839
Speaker 4: me or whatever other nonsense someone might. Use oh it's hateful,

1188
01:14:25,920 --> 01:14:30,840
Speaker 4: rhetoric blah blah blah blah. Blah but a huge part

1189
01:14:30,880 --> 01:14:35,760
Speaker 4: of this is trying to ensure that other people don't hear.

1190
01:14:35,880 --> 01:14:43,040
Speaker 4: This if we engage with what's different politically between the two,

1191
01:14:43,080 --> 01:14:46,280
Speaker 4: parties we'll call. It and one can argue that part

1192
01:14:46,280 --> 01:14:49,479
Speaker 4: of our problem is two. Parties, SURE i absolutely have

1193
01:14:49,520 --> 01:14:53,559
Speaker 4: that conversation is that there is a party that is

1194
01:14:53,720 --> 01:14:57,320
Speaker 4: in lockstep constantly in a party that. Isn't and only

1195
01:14:57,400 --> 01:15:00,160
Speaker 4: Under President trump have The republicans been more like like.

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01:15:00,200 --> 01:15:03,479
Speaker 4: That AND i find it problematic on a whole bunch of.

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01:15:03,560 --> 01:15:08,160
Speaker 4: Subjects but the, left somebody will say something at nine,

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01:15:08,240 --> 01:15:11,679
Speaker 4: am and by two o'clock everybody's saying the same exact.

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01:15:11,680 --> 01:15:13,880
Speaker 4: Thing they absolutely agree with, it they absolutely believe. It

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01:15:15,160 --> 01:15:18,800
Speaker 4: part of what you see from the left in the

1201
01:15:20,880 --> 01:15:23,840
Speaker 4: anger towards things that are said about the political right

1202
01:15:24,560 --> 01:15:26,840
Speaker 4: is that if somebody else hears, it they might, say,

1203
01:15:26,840 --> 01:15:29,439
Speaker 4: well wait a, second that's, interesting or wait a, Second

1204
01:15:29,439 --> 01:15:30,000
Speaker 4: i've seen that.

1205
01:15:30,080 --> 01:15:31,880
Speaker 2: Before they might connect with it in a.

1206
01:15:31,960 --> 01:15:33,640
Speaker 4: Way it might do their own, Digging they might do

1207
01:15:33,680 --> 01:15:37,120
Speaker 4: their own investigation and maybe find, That, OKAY i don't

1208
01:15:37,160 --> 01:15:40,200
Speaker 4: believe what the left believes on this. Subject now someone's

1209
01:15:40,200 --> 01:15:41,760
Speaker 4: going to say to, Me, tony you could say that

1210
01:15:41,800 --> 01:15:44,120
Speaker 4: about the. Right, Yes but the political right is not

1211
01:15:44,160 --> 01:15:47,439
Speaker 4: going about killing. People if we want to make the

1212
01:15:47,560 --> 01:15:51,040
Speaker 4: argument of where the violence, IS i don't argue that

1213
01:15:51,080 --> 01:15:53,439
Speaker 4: there has them been political violence from the. RIGHT i

1214
01:15:53,479 --> 01:15:56,080
Speaker 4: am arguing, that going back To Steve, SCALISE i can

1215
01:15:56,120 --> 01:15:59,400
Speaker 4: point you to event after event after event that comes from.

1216
01:15:59,240 --> 01:16:01,280
Speaker 2: The political, left or well the policies of the political.

1217
01:16:01,360 --> 01:16:04,920
Speaker 4: Left WHAT i will get responded with Is january, sixth

1218
01:16:05,280 --> 01:16:07,360
Speaker 4: And i'll say to you that the people who engaged

1219
01:16:07,360 --> 01:16:09,519
Speaker 4: in writing should be in, Jail but the people who

1220
01:16:09,520 --> 01:16:12,240
Speaker 4: got invited into the, capitol nothing should have happened to.

1221
01:16:12,280 --> 01:16:14,360
Speaker 4: Them but if we're now going to be opposed to,

1222
01:16:14,400 --> 01:16:17,320
Speaker 4: writing which is a good, thing where was all this

1223
01:16:17,720 --> 01:16:20,200
Speaker 4: people saying we should arrest those involved in the riots

1224
01:16:20,240 --> 01:16:23,960
Speaker 4: In minneapolis And. Seattle and when that when you realize

1225
01:16:23,960 --> 01:16:26,679
Speaker 4: that that answer doesn't, Exist when you realize that answer

1226
01:16:26,760 --> 01:16:29,719
Speaker 4: is total, silence you understand that the Argument i'm making

1227
01:16:30,000 --> 01:16:33,479
Speaker 4: is valid and, sound and the argument that others are

1228
01:16:33,479 --> 01:16:37,720
Speaker 4: Making january, Sixth january, Sixth january sixth doesn't. Hold in

1229
01:16:37,800 --> 01:16:44,240
Speaker 4: the greater, conversation the hearing of something cannot be the

1230
01:16:44,240 --> 01:16:46,719
Speaker 4: thing that we. Squelch it has to be the thing

1231
01:16:47,040 --> 01:16:51,719
Speaker 4: that makes us. Better not less, speech not less information

1232
01:16:52,040 --> 01:16:54,880
Speaker 4: as president than president Of Barack obama once, said we

1233
01:16:54,960 --> 01:17:04,240
Speaker 4: need more, information is, better our conversation is. Good wholeheartedly a,

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01:17:04,320 --> 01:17:09,400
Speaker 4: believer and this indeed was political. TERRORISM i will have

1235
01:17:09,439 --> 01:17:11,800
Speaker 4: more on, this but let me bring you now this press.

1236
01:17:11,840 --> 01:17:14,120
Speaker 4: Conference keep it, Here i'll catch it after the. Break

1237
01:17:14,160 --> 01:17:17,400
Speaker 4: I'm Tony. Katz this Is Tony kats. Today so the.

1238
01:17:17,400 --> 01:17:22,320
Speaker 2: Suspect is in. Custody Tony, Katz Tony katz, today good

1239
01:17:22,360 --> 01:17:25,880
Speaker 2: to be with you. Now earlier they had the.

1240
01:17:25,800 --> 01:17:30,400
Speaker 4: Big press conference state and federal officials giving the updates

1241
01:17:30,520 --> 01:17:33,640
Speaker 4: on what it is That President trump stated while he

1242
01:17:33,720 --> 01:17:36,800
Speaker 4: was On fox And friends earlier this morning that there

1243
01:17:36,880 --> 01:17:39,960
Speaker 4: was a suspect in custody turned in by his. Father

1244
01:17:41,120 --> 01:17:44,760
Speaker 4: i'm not using. Names as a matter of standard practice

1245
01:17:44,840 --> 01:17:47,519
Speaker 4: in WHAT i, DO i do not give. NAMES i

1246
01:17:47,520 --> 01:17:50,920
Speaker 4: am not here to make a martyr out of. ANYBODY

1247
01:17:51,000 --> 01:17:53,960
Speaker 4: i am not interested in giving them any level of.

1248
01:17:54,000 --> 01:17:56,599
Speaker 2: Celebrity we know that he.

1249
01:17:56,560 --> 01:18:00,320
Speaker 4: Was his father clearly knew he did, this told him

1250
01:18:00,360 --> 01:18:03,479
Speaker 4: to turn himself. IN i think there was a as

1251
01:18:03,479 --> 01:18:05,639
Speaker 4: we get the, INFORMATION i think there was a minister

1252
01:18:05,760 --> 01:18:09,240
Speaker 4: involved as. Well they held the press. CONFERENCE i wanted

1253
01:18:09,240 --> 01:18:11,040
Speaker 4: to bring it to you in, full so you heard

1254
01:18:11,080 --> 01:18:13,000
Speaker 4: every part of, it and then we can break it

1255
01:18:13,080 --> 01:18:16,479
Speaker 4: down from. There this was Orm utah that of course

1256
01:18:16,520 --> 01:18:19,519
Speaker 4: Where Utah Valley university. Is that's Where Charlie kirk was.

1257
01:18:19,560 --> 01:18:25,240
Speaker 4: Assassinated this is how they announced that they have a

1258
01:18:25,320 --> 01:18:30,040
Speaker 4: suspect in. Custody and we'll see what other information they give.

1259
01:18:29,960 --> 01:18:31,839
Speaker 2: Us, well law enforcement.

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01:18:31,960 --> 01:18:36,680
Speaker 3: Partners following the remarks, Today Governor, Cox Director, patel And

1261
01:18:36,680 --> 01:18:37,760
Speaker 3: Commissioner mason will take.

1262
01:18:37,840 --> 01:18:43,120
Speaker 2: Questions thank you first up as The, Governor Spencer, cox.

1263
01:18:44,600 --> 01:18:48,360
Speaker 4: Just waiting for some people to get organized behind, Them Cash,

1264
01:18:48,360 --> 01:18:50,160
Speaker 4: patel THE fbi director is there and.

1265
01:18:50,160 --> 01:18:54,040
Speaker 2: Others good, morning ladies and. Gentlemen we got.

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01:18:54,080 --> 01:18:59,120
Speaker 3: Him on the evening Of september, eleventh a family member

1267
01:18:59,120 --> 01:19:02,080
Speaker 3: Of Tyler robbinson and reached out to a family friend

1268
01:19:02,560 --> 01:19:06,439
Speaker 3: who contacted The Washington County Sheriff's office with information That

1269
01:19:06,560 --> 01:19:09,400
Speaker 3: robinson had confessed to them or implied that he had

1270
01:19:09,400 --> 01:19:13,519
Speaker 3: committed the. Incident this information was relayed to The Utah

1271
01:19:13,560 --> 01:19:17,360
Speaker 3: County Sheriff's office and seen investigators At Utah Valley. University

1272
01:19:18,000 --> 01:19:22,559
Speaker 3: this information was also conveyed to THE. Fbi investigators reviewed

1273
01:19:22,600 --> 01:19:28,400
Speaker 3: additional video footage FROM uvu surveillance and Identified robinson arriving

1274
01:19:28,520 --> 01:19:32,280
Speaker 3: ON uvu campus in A Great Dodge challenger at approximately

1275
01:19:32,360 --> 01:19:36,160
Speaker 3: eight twenty nine am On september, tenth in which he

1276
01:19:36,280 --> 01:19:39,280
Speaker 3: is observed on video in a plain MAROON t, shirt

1277
01:19:39,600 --> 01:19:42,519
Speaker 3: light colored, shorts a black hat with a white, logo

1278
01:19:42,800 --> 01:19:46,840
Speaker 3: and light colored. Shoes when encountered in person by investigators

1279
01:19:46,840 --> 01:19:49,639
Speaker 3: In Washington county On september twelfth in the early morning,

1280
01:19:49,680 --> 01:19:54,600
Speaker 3: Hours robinson was observed in consistent clothing with those surveillance.

1281
01:19:54,640 --> 01:19:59,400
Speaker 3: Images investigators interviewed a family member Of, robinson who stated

1282
01:19:59,400 --> 01:20:03,360
Speaker 3: That robinson had become more political in recent. Years the

1283
01:20:03,439 --> 01:20:06,960
Speaker 3: family member referenced a recent incident in Which robinson came

1284
01:20:07,000 --> 01:20:10,880
Speaker 3: to dinner prior To september, tenth and in the conversation

1285
01:20:11,000 --> 01:20:15,360
Speaker 3: with another family, Member robinson Mentioned Charlie kirk was coming TO.

1286
01:20:15,479 --> 01:20:18,479
Speaker 3: Uvu they talked about why they didn't like him and

1287
01:20:18,520 --> 01:20:22,080
Speaker 3: the viewpoints that he. Had the family member also Stated

1288
01:20:22,120 --> 01:20:25,679
Speaker 3: kirk was full of hate and spreading. Hate the family

1289
01:20:25,680 --> 01:20:30,840
Speaker 3: member also Confirmed robinson had a Gray Dodge. Challenger investigators

1290
01:20:30,880 --> 01:20:35,599
Speaker 3: identified an individual as the roommate Of. Robinson investigators interviewed

1291
01:20:35,720 --> 01:20:39,720
Speaker 3: that roommate who stated that his, roommate referring To, robinson

1292
01:20:40,120 --> 01:20:43,120
Speaker 3: made a joke on. Discord investigators asked if he would

1293
01:20:43,120 --> 01:20:45,720
Speaker 3: show them the messages on. Discord he opened it and

1294
01:20:45,760 --> 01:20:49,760
Speaker 3: showed several messages to investigators and allowed investigators to take

1295
01:20:49,800 --> 01:20:53,599
Speaker 3: photos of the screen as each message was shown By robinson's.

1296
01:20:53,680 --> 01:20:58,479
Speaker 3: Roommate these photos consisted of various, messages including content of

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01:20:58,560 --> 01:21:02,639
Speaker 3: messages between the phone contact Named tyler with an emoji

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01:21:02,880 --> 01:21:07,640
Speaker 3: icon And robinson's roommate's. Device the content of these messages

1299
01:21:08,400 --> 01:21:12,760
Speaker 3: included messages affiliated with the Contact, tyler stating a need

1300
01:21:12,840 --> 01:21:16,560
Speaker 3: to retrieve a rifle from a drop, point leaving the

1301
01:21:16,680 --> 01:21:22,040
Speaker 3: rifle in a, Bush messages related to visually watching the

1302
01:21:22,160 --> 01:21:25,559
Speaker 3: area where a rifle was, left and a message referring

1303
01:21:25,600 --> 01:21:26,560
Speaker 3: to having.

1304
01:21:26,560 --> 01:21:28,800
Speaker 2: Left the rifle wrapped in a.

1305
01:21:28,960 --> 01:21:33,760
Speaker 3: Towel the messages also refer to engraving bullets and a

1306
01:21:33,840 --> 01:21:38,479
Speaker 3: mention of a scope and the rifle being unique messages

1307
01:21:38,520 --> 01:21:42,839
Speaker 3: from the. Contact tyler also mentioned that he had changed.

1308
01:21:43,040 --> 01:21:48,719
Speaker 3: OUTFITS i know there has been speculation as well as

1309
01:21:48,800 --> 01:21:57,040
Speaker 3: to the writing on those, casings those bullet, casings AND

1310
01:21:57,400 --> 01:22:01,000
Speaker 3: i believe we have that as, well AND i will

1311
01:22:01,040 --> 01:22:04,680
Speaker 3: share that with you, now so the area north Of

1312
01:22:04,720 --> 01:22:08,360
Speaker 3: Campus Drive road where the suspect crossed, over you saw.

1313
01:22:08,160 --> 01:22:10,080
Speaker 2: Some of that in the video that we released last

1314
01:22:10,160 --> 01:22:12,240
Speaker 2: night consists of a grassy area with.

1315
01:22:12,280 --> 01:22:16,320
Speaker 3: Trees on the edge of THE uvu, campus investigators discovered

1316
01:22:16,360 --> 01:22:20,080
Speaker 3: a bolt action rifle wrapped in a dark colored. Towel

1317
01:22:20,200 --> 01:22:23,040
Speaker 3: the rifle was determined to be A Mouser model ninety

1318
01:22:23,040 --> 01:22:26,799
Speaker 3: eight thirty out six thirty six caliber bolt action. Rifle

1319
01:22:27,200 --> 01:22:29,400
Speaker 3: the rifle had a scope mounted on top of. It

1320
01:22:30,080 --> 01:22:34,240
Speaker 3: investigators noted inscriptions that had been engraved on casings found

1321
01:22:34,439 --> 01:22:40,800
Speaker 3: with the. Rifle inscriptions on a fired casing read notices bulges,

1322
01:22:41,439 --> 01:22:47,280
Speaker 3: capitalwo what's this question. Mark inscriptions on the three unfired

1323
01:22:47,320 --> 01:22:54,040
Speaker 3: casings read hey, fascist exclamation, point, catch exclamation, point up arrow,

1324
01:22:54,080 --> 01:22:59,040
Speaker 3: symbol right arrow and, symbol and three down arrow. SYMBOLS

1325
01:22:59,560 --> 01:23:05,080
Speaker 3: a second unfired casing read, oh, bellichow, bellichow, bellichow chow.

1326
01:23:05,200 --> 01:23:08,960
Speaker 3: Chow and a third on fired casing read if you read,

1327
01:23:09,000 --> 01:23:17,559
Speaker 3: this you are GAY. Lmao we are indebted to law

1328
01:23:17,640 --> 01:23:22,080
Speaker 3: enforcement across the state who has worked seamlessly together local law,

1329
01:23:22,160 --> 01:23:25,840
Speaker 3: enforcement state law, enforcement and our federal partners with The

1330
01:23:26,640 --> 01:23:30,840
Speaker 3: Federal bureau of. Investigation we're grateful for everyone who worked

1331
01:23:30,840 --> 01:23:35,839
Speaker 3: together in such a short amount of time to find

1332
01:23:36,160 --> 01:23:39,679
Speaker 3: this person and to bring.

1333
01:23:39,880 --> 01:23:42,200
Speaker 2: JUSTICE i want to think the public who has been

1334
01:23:42,280 --> 01:23:45,080
Speaker 2: so engaged, reviewing reviewing.

1335
01:23:45,160 --> 01:23:48,479
Speaker 4: Videos we're gonna hear from us more and hopefully get

1336
01:23:48,479 --> 01:23:52,000
Speaker 4: some more. Answers here is THIRTY ot, six as he,

1337
01:23:52,080 --> 01:23:53,280
Speaker 4: said a bolt action.

1338
01:23:53,600 --> 01:23:54,720
Speaker 2: Rifle we knew that.

1339
01:23:54,880 --> 01:24:00,080
Speaker 4: Information we knew that there were engravings on the the,

1340
01:24:00,280 --> 01:24:05,120
Speaker 4: casings including hey fascists or catch both with exa exclamation.

1341
01:24:05,240 --> 01:24:06,839
Speaker 2: POINTS i what.

1342
01:24:06,680 --> 01:24:09,760
Speaker 4: We are looking to have a more, information certainly about

1343
01:24:09,760 --> 01:24:13,519
Speaker 4: the security that was there or not, there and what

1344
01:24:13,600 --> 01:24:17,160
Speaker 4: other levels of political affiliation are connected or aren't to

1345
01:24:17,200 --> 01:24:18,080
Speaker 4: be connected with.

1346
01:24:18,120 --> 01:24:20,000
Speaker 2: This so that Is Governor Spencer cox Of.

1347
01:24:20,160 --> 01:24:24,559
Speaker 4: Utah they absolutely have him turned in by his. Father

1348
01:24:25,200 --> 01:24:27,439
Speaker 4: we'll take it back to the press conference and get

1349
01:24:27,439 --> 01:24:27,720
Speaker 4: some more.

1350
01:24:27,720 --> 01:24:28,960
Speaker 2: Information says as.

1351
01:24:29,000 --> 01:24:33,360
Speaker 3: Well this is a very sad day for again for our,

1352
01:24:33,400 --> 01:24:37,559
Speaker 3: country a terrible day for the state Of. Utah But

1353
01:24:37,760 --> 01:24:41,000
Speaker 3: i'm grateful that at this moment we have an opportunity

1354
01:24:41,040 --> 01:24:44,759
Speaker 3: to bring closure to this very dark chapter in our nation's.

1355
01:24:44,840 --> 01:24:48,880
Speaker 3: History with, THAT i will now turn the turn the

1356
01:24:48,920 --> 01:24:52,040
Speaker 3: microphone over to the director of THE fbi Cash.

1357
01:24:52,040 --> 01:24:57,360
Speaker 2: Pitah thank, You.

1358
01:24:57,400 --> 01:25:00,880
Speaker 6: Governor this is what that happens when you let good

1359
01:25:00,880 --> 01:25:04,800
Speaker 6: cops be. Cops THE fbi and our partners are proud

1360
01:25:04,880 --> 01:25:07,880
Speaker 6: to stand here today together to bring justice to the

1361
01:25:07,880 --> 01:25:10,720
Speaker 6: family Of Charlie kirk in honors. MEMORY i want to

1362
01:25:10,720 --> 01:25:13,960
Speaker 6: express my deep gratitude To President, trump The Vice, president

1363
01:25:14,040 --> 01:25:15,919
Speaker 6: and the Entire White house who have been so incredibly

1364
01:25:15,920 --> 01:25:18,960
Speaker 6: supportive with both resources and just personally to.

1365
01:25:18,920 --> 01:25:19,640
Speaker 4: THE fbi as a.

1366
01:25:19,680 --> 01:25:22,519
Speaker 6: Team they had our backs the entire, way AND i

1367
01:25:22,600 --> 01:25:24,640
Speaker 6: just want to express my gratitude for giving us the

1368
01:25:24,720 --> 01:25:27,960
Speaker 6: resources we need to operate in this space to bring

1369
01:25:28,000 --> 01:25:31,160
Speaker 6: this sort of justice at this sort of. Speed in

1370
01:25:31,240 --> 01:25:36,200
Speaker 6: thirty three, hours we have made historic progress For. Charlie Governor,

1371
01:25:36,240 --> 01:25:42,000
Speaker 6: cox our partnership has been absolutely incredible these last few.

1372
01:25:42,080 --> 01:25:46,080
Speaker 6: Days our partnership will endure your state and local, partners your,

1373
01:25:46,120 --> 01:25:51,000
Speaker 6: sheriffs YOUR, dps community has been unbelievably impressive in the

1374
01:25:51,040 --> 01:25:54,040
Speaker 6: hardest of. Times in a case like, this cannot be,

1375
01:25:54,160 --> 01:25:56,440
Speaker 6: solved cannot be brought without.

1376
01:25:56,120 --> 01:25:57,679
Speaker 2: Partnering with your state and local.

1377
01:25:57,680 --> 01:26:00,040
Speaker 6: Authorities THE fbi has a certain role to, play and

1378
01:26:00,080 --> 01:26:02,439
Speaker 6: we will play that, role and we will lead.

1379
01:26:02,280 --> 01:26:02,880
Speaker 2: Out for the federal.

1380
01:26:02,960 --> 01:26:05,880
Speaker 6: Government But GOVERNOR coxfee are so grateful for your state

1381
01:26:05,920 --> 01:26:07,559
Speaker 6: partnership that led out on this.

1382
01:26:07,640 --> 01:26:10,040
Speaker 2: INVESTIGATION a little bit of the.

1383
01:26:10,080 --> 01:26:14,240
Speaker 6: Timeline charlie was shot at twelve twenty three pm On.

1384
01:26:14,320 --> 01:26:18,320
Speaker 6: Wednesday the FIRST fbi agent's aren't arrived on scene in

1385
01:26:18,400 --> 01:26:21,920
Speaker 6: sixteen minutes with chiefs of police at twelve thirty nine

1386
01:26:22,200 --> 01:26:26,479
Speaker 6: and secured the. Scene THE fbi immediately launched fixed wing.

1387
01:26:26,520 --> 01:26:31,880
Speaker 6: Assets we utilize these assets to transport, personnel specialty, technicians

1388
01:26:31,960 --> 01:26:32,719
Speaker 6: hostage rescue.

1389
01:26:32,760 --> 01:26:34,720
Speaker 2: Teams we also utilize.

1390
01:26:34,320 --> 01:26:36,439
Speaker 6: These assets to go back and forth from The East

1391
01:26:36,439 --> 01:26:39,479
Speaker 6: coast and here In utah to transport forensic evidence and

1392
01:26:39,520 --> 01:26:42,040
Speaker 6: other evidence that will be analyzed and is being analyzed

1393
01:26:42,160 --> 01:26:45,360
Speaker 6: at OUR fbi laboratories In quantico and other laboratories including

1394
01:26:45,400 --> 01:26:49,439
Speaker 6: THE atf and my. Direction THE fbi released the first

1395
01:26:49,479 --> 01:26:52,680
Speaker 6: set OF fbi photos of the suspect at ten am

1396
01:26:52,880 --> 01:26:57,240
Speaker 6: local time on nine to, eleven then shortly, thereafter THE

1397
01:26:57,280 --> 01:26:59,800
Speaker 6: fbi reward of one hundred thousand dollars was released at

1398
01:26:59,800 --> 01:27:05,080
Speaker 6: ten five Am local myself And Deputy Director bondino arrived

1399
01:27:05,120 --> 01:27:07,920
Speaker 6: on the scene at approximately five thirty pm on nine to.

1400
01:27:07,960 --> 01:27:12,920
Speaker 6: Eleven The governor led a press conference last night at

1401
01:27:12,960 --> 01:27:17,160
Speaker 6: approximate eight, pm where in my, direction THE fbi released

1402
01:27:17,200 --> 01:27:20,840
Speaker 6: a never before seen video of the. Suspect we also

1403
01:27:20,960 --> 01:27:25,479
Speaker 6: released new images to the public of the, suspects.

1404
01:27:26,080 --> 01:27:27,160
Speaker 2: And just last, night.

1405
01:27:28,520 --> 01:27:30,920
Speaker 6: The suspect was taken into custody at ten pm local,

1406
01:27:30,960 --> 01:27:35,800
Speaker 6: time in less than thirty six hours thirty three to be,

1407
01:27:35,840 --> 01:27:39,639
Speaker 6: precise thanks to the full weight of the federal government

1408
01:27:40,000 --> 01:27:42,000
Speaker 6: and leading out with the partners here in the state

1409
01:27:42,040 --> 01:27:45,680
Speaker 6: Of utah And Governor, cox the suspect was apprehended in

1410
01:27:45,880 --> 01:27:49,479
Speaker 6: historic time. Period AND i want to highlight What Governor cox,

1411
01:27:49,520 --> 01:27:51,479
Speaker 6: Said this would not have been possible without you the

1412
01:27:51,520 --> 01:27:54,360
Speaker 6: media and you the. Public that's why we went so

1413
01:27:54,520 --> 01:27:57,839
Speaker 6: public so, fast and we're so, transparent and we're committed

1414
01:27:57,880 --> 01:27:58,040
Speaker 6: to that.

1415
01:27:58,080 --> 01:28:02,280
Speaker 2: Transparency the crime scene just a little bit. There it

1416
01:28:02,320 --> 01:28:03,320
Speaker 2: is a large crime.

1417
01:28:03,360 --> 01:28:06,960
Speaker 6: Scene state local authorities along with the federal, authorities process

1418
01:28:07,040 --> 01:28:13,439
Speaker 6: that crime scene, quickly AND i even had the ability

1419
01:28:13,479 --> 01:28:17,080
Speaker 6: to walk through that crime scene and walk through the

1420
01:28:17,120 --> 01:28:20,840
Speaker 6: steps the suspect took to learn more about what was

1421
01:28:20,880 --> 01:28:23,479
Speaker 6: needed and what Resources we need some brayer to create

1422
01:28:23,520 --> 01:28:26,679
Speaker 6: a full picture for THE fbi and leadership back In. Washington,

1423
01:28:27,439 --> 01:28:31,000
Speaker 6: furthermore thankfully to state local. Partners forensic evidence has been

1424
01:28:31,040 --> 01:28:35,080
Speaker 6: seized and continues to be. Garnered forensic evidence has already

1425
01:28:35,080 --> 01:28:38,360
Speaker 6: been EVALUATED fbi laboratories In quantico and state local authorities.

1426
01:28:38,360 --> 01:28:41,479
Speaker 6: Here we will continue to process evidence as we see,

1427
01:28:41,520 --> 01:28:42,760
Speaker 6: it as we collect, it.

1428
01:28:42,720 --> 01:28:44,840
Speaker 2: And we will continue to deliver To Governor cox and his.

1429
01:28:44,920 --> 01:28:48,280
Speaker 6: Team last, night we had a total of approximately seven

1430
01:28:48,320 --> 01:28:51,960
Speaker 6: thousand interviews excuse, me seven thousand. Leads as of this,

1431
01:28:52,040 --> 01:28:55,439
Speaker 6: morning thanks to your great, work we have over eleven

1432
01:28:55,640 --> 01:28:58,760
Speaker 6: thousand leads that were called in to THE fbi and

1433
01:28:58,800 --> 01:29:00,640
Speaker 6: we are running out every single lead that we.

1434
01:29:00,720 --> 01:29:04,080
Speaker 2: Can every one of those leads will be run. Out

1435
01:29:05,680 --> 01:29:06,360
Speaker 2: the arrest is the.

1436
01:29:06,360 --> 01:29:10,479
Speaker 6: Testament and dedication of good law enforcement being great and

1437
01:29:10,600 --> 01:29:13,519
Speaker 6: partnerships in law, enforcement Which i've tried to highlight as

1438
01:29:13,560 --> 01:29:16,200
Speaker 6: my tenure at to the director of THE. Fbi there

1439
01:29:16,240 --> 01:29:19,719
Speaker 6: is no better relationship for law enforcement than THE fbi

1440
01:29:19,760 --> 01:29:22,080
Speaker 6: to partner with state and local, authorities and you've seen

1441
01:29:22,160 --> 01:29:25,599
Speaker 6: it here in these last few. Days THE fbi saw

1442
01:29:25,720 --> 01:29:28,599
Speaker 6: Lake Field, office along with our offices In La, Phoenix,

1443
01:29:28,720 --> 01:29:33,560
Speaker 6: Denver San, Antonio Las, Vegas, Pittsburgh, buffalo our headquarters component In,

1444
01:29:33,600 --> 01:29:36,759
Speaker 6: quantico all participate in THE. FBI i want to express

1445
01:29:36,760 --> 01:29:40,680
Speaker 6: my deep gratitude to the employees of THE, fbi the

1446
01:29:40,720 --> 01:29:44,120
Speaker 6: men and, women the Evidence response, team, tacticians the special,

1447
01:29:44,120 --> 01:29:49,760
Speaker 6: operators the, agents the support. Staff you have done monumental

1448
01:29:49,800 --> 01:29:54,400
Speaker 6: work and historic time when the public who had a

1449
01:29:54,439 --> 01:29:58,880
Speaker 6: right to demand such an expeditious solving of an, investigation

1450
01:30:00,080 --> 01:30:04,920
Speaker 6: THE fbi answered that call, diligently critically important to our,

1451
01:30:05,000 --> 01:30:08,120
Speaker 6: nation and we. Delivered And i'm proud to be their,

1452
01:30:08,200 --> 01:30:09,760
Speaker 6: leader And i'm proud to be The director of THE.

1453
01:30:09,800 --> 01:30:14,320
Speaker 4: Fbi Cash, PATEL Fbi, director there, speaking they have a

1454
01:30:14,400 --> 01:30:17,519
Speaker 4: suspect in, custody a twenty two year old turned in

1455
01:30:17,640 --> 01:30:20,960
Speaker 4: by his, father the twenty two year old admitting to

1456
01:30:20,960 --> 01:30:24,400
Speaker 4: the father what he had. Done and this took Place

1457
01:30:24,680 --> 01:30:27,479
Speaker 4: President trump and making this announcement On fox And friends

1458
01:30:27,520 --> 01:30:28,000
Speaker 4: earlier this.

1459
01:30:28,080 --> 01:30:30,200
Speaker 2: Morning now the press. Conference first it Was.

1460
01:30:30,160 --> 01:30:33,960
Speaker 4: Governor Stunter cox Of. Utah NOW Fbi Director Cash.

1461
01:30:34,120 --> 01:30:36,320
Speaker 2: Fatel i'll bring you more of this on the other.

1462
01:30:36,360 --> 01:30:39,040
Speaker 2: Side keep it. Here I'm Tony. Katz this Is Tony katz,

1463
01:30:39,080 --> 01:30:41,400
Speaker 2: Today thank, you and good.

1464
01:30:41,439 --> 01:30:44,120
Speaker 3: MORNING i would just like to take a few, minutes

1465
01:30:45,080 --> 01:30:49,679
Speaker 3: as the sheriff to express my gratitude for everybody who

1466
01:30:49,680 --> 01:30:50,840
Speaker 3: has played a part in this.

1467
01:30:50,920 --> 01:30:56,240
Speaker 4: Investigation so that's the sheriff there in Orum, Utah Tony,

1468
01:30:56,280 --> 01:30:58,920
Speaker 4: Katz Tony katz, today good to be with. YOU i

1469
01:30:59,000 --> 01:31:01,439
Speaker 4: wanted to bring you the press. Conference it took place,

1470
01:31:01,479 --> 01:31:04,439
Speaker 4: earlier BUT i wanted to bring you as much.

1471
01:31:04,240 --> 01:31:07,280
Speaker 2: Of it AS i, could and THE q AND a and.

1472
01:31:07,240 --> 01:31:12,200
Speaker 4: Everything else regarding the assassination Of Charlie kirk and how

1473
01:31:12,240 --> 01:31:17,719
Speaker 4: they were able to get this suspect into. Custody, remember

1474
01:31:17,760 --> 01:31:21,080
Speaker 4: they had a, person a suspect of. Interest they then

1475
01:31:21,160 --> 01:31:24,880
Speaker 4: released that. Person then there was a, manhunt this twenty

1476
01:31:24,920 --> 01:31:26,800
Speaker 4: two year old admitting.

1477
01:31:26,360 --> 01:31:28,479
Speaker 2: To his father that he did. It his, FATHER i

1478
01:31:28,520 --> 01:31:32,360
Speaker 2: believe a former, sheriff a sheriff's deputy.

1479
01:31:33,800 --> 01:31:37,200
Speaker 4: Kept him, there informed authorities or informed others to inform,

1480
01:31:37,240 --> 01:31:40,840
Speaker 4: authorities and that's when he was. Apprehended we're going to

1481
01:31:40,960 --> 01:31:43,080
Speaker 4: learn a, lot AND i want to bring THE q

1482
01:31:43,200 --> 01:31:47,120
Speaker 4: AND a to you for. Sure there's gonna be questions

1483
01:31:47,120 --> 01:31:49,160
Speaker 4: about whether or not this guy had any kind of,

1484
01:31:49,240 --> 01:31:50,479
Speaker 4: history whether.

1485
01:31:50,320 --> 01:31:52,160
Speaker 2: Or not he was known to anybody to be.

1486
01:31:52,360 --> 01:31:57,320
Speaker 4: A threat to, himself a threat to. Others there are

1487
01:31:57,360 --> 01:32:01,320
Speaker 4: some people on my, side right our side of the,

1488
01:32:01,320 --> 01:32:03,400
Speaker 4: aisle right side of the. Aisle maybe you're not with

1489
01:32:03,520 --> 01:32:04,679
Speaker 4: me on the side of the, aisle but you listen

1490
01:32:04,680 --> 01:32:06,560
Speaker 4: to the show because you love a good, show AND

1491
01:32:06,600 --> 01:32:10,240
Speaker 4: i appreciate it and thank. You discussing on THE fbi

1492
01:32:10,280 --> 01:32:11,960
Speaker 4: didn't do a good, Job THE fbi didn't do, This

1493
01:32:12,040 --> 01:32:14,000
Speaker 4: THE fbi didn't do, that THE fbi bungled.

1494
01:32:14,000 --> 01:32:16,400
Speaker 2: THIS i have no idea if any of that is.

1495
01:32:16,439 --> 01:32:20,679
Speaker 4: True at this, moment we are two, days not even

1496
01:32:21,160 --> 01:32:25,599
Speaker 4: since the assassination Of Charlie, kirk and someone's in custody

1497
01:32:25,720 --> 01:32:26,599
Speaker 4: because they were turned.

1498
01:32:26,600 --> 01:32:27,719
Speaker 2: In how many times they turned?

1499
01:32:27,720 --> 01:32:30,040
Speaker 4: IN i would assume there's actually a fair amount of

1500
01:32:30,040 --> 01:32:36,000
Speaker 4: this that takes place that is not somehow a kind

1501
01:32:36,040 --> 01:32:37,400
Speaker 4: of carte blanche to, oh they.

1502
01:32:37,280 --> 01:32:40,800
Speaker 2: Didn't do the. Job we don't know what job was

1503
01:32:40,880 --> 01:32:44,040
Speaker 2: done or not. Done we don't know yet what kind of.

1504
01:32:44,080 --> 01:32:47,800
Speaker 4: Issues certainly there was a fair amount of kind of

1505
01:32:47,880 --> 01:32:51,600
Speaker 4: like conflicting, conversation but that could have also been purposeful

1506
01:32:52,000 --> 01:32:54,559
Speaker 4: to try and not give anybody a full story so

1507
01:32:54,600 --> 01:32:58,040
Speaker 4: they could better out whoever did. This, so as this

1508
01:32:58,080 --> 01:33:00,000
Speaker 4: presser goes, ON i wanted to bring it to. You

1509
01:33:00,360 --> 01:33:02,200
Speaker 4: this is the sheriff was just, speaking and now cash

1510
01:33:02,240 --> 01:33:05,000
Speaker 4: to TELL fbi directors back to the podium.

1511
01:33:04,680 --> 01:33:06,759
Speaker 6: In our, mission AND i just want to say special.

1512
01:33:06,800 --> 01:33:08,360
Speaker 6: Thanks it's an honor to be a part of The

1513
01:33:08,439 --> 01:33:08,880
Speaker 6: department Of.

1514
01:33:09,000 --> 01:33:14,280
Speaker 4: Justice back now to The Governor, snonnzer you again to

1515
01:33:14,400 --> 01:33:16,920
Speaker 4: our incredible law enforcement team who has worked so.

1516
01:33:17,040 --> 01:33:20,120
Speaker 3: Hard, SHAREFF i got a solid ninety minutes last, night

1517
01:33:20,200 --> 01:33:25,040
Speaker 3: So i'm probably the most well rested person up. Here, pleades, GENTLEMEN.

1518
01:33:26,360 --> 01:33:29,360
Speaker 2: I get the, microphones SO i hope you will.

1519
01:33:29,240 --> 01:33:32,720
Speaker 3: Permit me a moment just to share a few more

1520
01:33:32,760 --> 01:33:35,599
Speaker 3: thoughts about where we are and how we got, here

1521
01:33:35,680 --> 01:33:39,479
Speaker 3: and maybe a little bit of where we go from.

1522
01:33:39,479 --> 01:33:42,800
Speaker 3: HERE i don't want to get too, preachy BUT i

1523
01:33:42,800 --> 01:33:47,080
Speaker 3: think it's important that, we with eyes wide, open understand

1524
01:33:47,080 --> 01:33:53,120
Speaker 3: what's happening in our country. Today i've Heard i've heard people,

1525
01:33:53,160 --> 01:33:58,559
Speaker 3: say why are we so invested in? This there's violence

1526
01:33:58,600 --> 01:34:03,240
Speaker 3: happening all across our and violence is tragic, everywhere and

1527
01:34:03,560 --> 01:34:09,200
Speaker 3: every life taken is a child Of god who deserves.

1528
01:34:08,720 --> 01:34:09,840
Speaker 2: Our love and respect and.

1529
01:34:09,880 --> 01:34:18,120
Speaker 3: Dignity this is certainly about the tragic death assassination political

1530
01:34:18,160 --> 01:34:23,919
Speaker 3: assassination Of Charlie, kirk but it is also much bigger

1531
01:34:24,400 --> 01:34:28,960
Speaker 3: than an attack on an, Individual it is an attack.

1532
01:34:29,040 --> 01:34:30,599
Speaker 2: On all of.

1533
01:34:30,720 --> 01:34:34,600
Speaker 3: Us it is an attack on The american. Experiment it

1534
01:34:34,760 --> 01:34:37,240
Speaker 3: is an attack on our.

1535
01:34:37,400 --> 01:34:42,840
Speaker 2: Ideals this cuts to the very foundation of who we,

1536
01:34:42,920 --> 01:34:47,599
Speaker 2: are of who we have, been and who we could

1537
01:34:47,680 --> 01:34:48,880
Speaker 2: be in better.

1538
01:34:48,960 --> 01:34:53,800
Speaker 3: Times political violence is different than any other type of

1539
01:34:53,920 --> 01:34:59,280
Speaker 3: violence for lots of different. Reasons one because in the

1540
01:34:59,439 --> 01:35:05,160
Speaker 3: very act That charlie championed of, expression that freedom of

1541
01:35:05,200 --> 01:35:10,400
Speaker 3: expression that is enshrined in our founding, documents in having

1542
01:35:10,439 --> 01:35:15,280
Speaker 3: his life taken in that very, act makes it more

1543
01:35:15,360 --> 01:35:19,120
Speaker 3: difficult for people to feel like they can share their,

1544
01:35:19,200 --> 01:35:23,200
Speaker 3: ideas that they can speak. Freely we will never be

1545
01:35:23,280 --> 01:35:26,080
Speaker 3: able to solve all the other, problems including the violence

1546
01:35:26,120 --> 01:35:29,120
Speaker 3: problems that people are worried, about if we can't have

1547
01:35:29,200 --> 01:35:35,720
Speaker 3: a clash of ideas safely and, securely even especially especially

1548
01:35:36,080 --> 01:35:41,599
Speaker 3: those ideas with which you. Disagree that's why this matters so.

1549
01:35:41,960 --> 01:35:49,080
Speaker 3: Much over the last forty eight, HOURS i have been

1550
01:35:49,240 --> 01:35:54,320
Speaker 3: as angry AS i have ever, been as sad AS

1551
01:35:54,320 --> 01:36:03,880
Speaker 3: i have ever, been and it was as anger pushed

1552
01:36:03,880 --> 01:36:07,280
Speaker 3: me to the, brink it was Actually charlie's words that

1553
01:36:07,320 --> 01:36:10,479
Speaker 3: pulled me. BACK i like to share some of those

1554
01:36:10,760 --> 01:36:13,960
Speaker 3: and specifically right now IF i, COULD i need to

1555
01:36:14,000 --> 01:36:16,360
Speaker 3: talk to the young people in our, state in my,

1556
01:36:16,520 --> 01:36:22,240
Speaker 3: state and all across the. Country As President trump reminded,

1557
01:36:22,240 --> 01:36:25,559
Speaker 3: me he, said you know who really Loved charlie the.

1558
01:36:25,640 --> 01:36:32,320
Speaker 3: Youths he's, right young people Love, charlie and young people Hated.

1559
01:36:32,400 --> 01:36:41,519
Speaker 3: Charlie And charlie went into those places. Anyway and these

1560
01:36:41,560 --> 01:36:46,400
Speaker 3: are the words that have helped. Me charlie, said when

1561
01:36:46,439 --> 01:36:52,559
Speaker 3: people stop, talking that's when you get. Violence he said

1562
01:36:52,560 --> 01:36:56,120
Speaker 3: that week can never. Forgive forgiveness is the attribute of the.

1563
01:36:56,120 --> 01:36:59,960
Speaker 3: Strong the only way out of the labyrinth of suffering

1564
01:37:00,640 --> 01:37:06,519
Speaker 3: is to. Forgive welcome without, judgment love without, condition forgive without.

1565
01:37:06,560 --> 01:37:12,880
Speaker 3: Limit he, said always forgive your. Enemies nothing annoys them so.

1566
01:37:13,000 --> 01:37:15,280
Speaker 2: MUCH a few.

1567
01:37:15,040 --> 01:37:18,160
Speaker 3: Months, AGO i referenced. This last, Night charlie posted to social.

1568
01:37:18,240 --> 01:37:21,439
Speaker 3: Media when things are moving very fast and people are

1569
01:37:21,479 --> 01:37:25,680
Speaker 3: losing their, minds it's important to stay, grounded turn off your,

1570
01:37:25,720 --> 01:37:31,960
Speaker 3: phone read, scripture spend time with, friends and Remember internet fury.

1571
01:37:31,760 --> 01:37:34,280
Speaker 2: Is not real. Life it's going to be.

1572
01:37:34,360 --> 01:37:38,679
Speaker 3: Okay he again, said when you stop having a human

1573
01:37:38,720 --> 01:37:41,719
Speaker 3: connection with someone you disagree, with it becomes a lot

1574
01:37:41,760 --> 01:37:43,120
Speaker 3: easier to commit.

1575
01:37:43,200 --> 01:37:47,520
Speaker 2: Violence he, said what we as a culture.

1576
01:37:47,200 --> 01:37:49,760
Speaker 3: Have to get back to is being able to have

1577
01:37:50,160 --> 01:37:54,160
Speaker 3: a reasonable, agreement being able to have reasonable agreement where

1578
01:37:54,280 --> 01:37:59,559
Speaker 3: violence is not an. Option, now, again to my young

1579
01:37:59,600 --> 01:38:07,160
Speaker 3: friends out, there you are inheriting a country where politics

1580
01:38:08,120 --> 01:38:12,000
Speaker 3: feels like, Rage it feels like rage is the only.

1581
01:38:12,040 --> 01:38:19,400
Speaker 3: Option but through those, words we have a reminder that

1582
01:38:19,760 --> 01:38:24,120
Speaker 3: we can choose a different. Path your generation has an

1583
01:38:24,160 --> 01:38:27,200
Speaker 3: opportunity to build a culture that is very different than

1584
01:38:27,240 --> 01:38:31,120
Speaker 3: what we are suffering through right, now not by pretending

1585
01:38:31,160 --> 01:38:35,160
Speaker 3: differences don't, matter but by embracing our differences and having

1586
01:38:35,160 --> 01:38:39,360
Speaker 3: those hard. CONVERSATIONS i think we need more and moral

1587
01:38:39,400 --> 01:38:43,160
Speaker 3: clarity right. NOW i hear all the time that words are,

1588
01:38:43,280 --> 01:38:49,160
Speaker 3: violence words are not. Violence violence is. Violence there is

1589
01:38:49,200 --> 01:38:54,879
Speaker 3: one person responsible for what happened, here and that person

1590
01:38:55,200 --> 01:38:59,599
Speaker 3: is now in custody and will be charged, soon and

1591
01:38:59,640 --> 01:39:05,439
Speaker 3: we'll be. Accountable and yet all of us have an

1592
01:39:05,439 --> 01:39:08,400
Speaker 3: opportunity right now to do something. DIFFERENT i want to

1593
01:39:08,400 --> 01:39:15,920
Speaker 3: thank my fellow. Utahs you know this bad stuff, happens and.

1594
01:39:16,040 --> 01:39:22,320
Speaker 4: Clearly very Emotional Governor Spencer cox there speaking About Charlie,

1595
01:39:22,400 --> 01:39:26,439
Speaker 4: kirk words That Charlie kirk has spoken before and of

1596
01:39:27,200 --> 01:39:31,720
Speaker 4: the well something that we absolutely believe to be, true.

1597
01:39:32,000 --> 01:39:35,200
Speaker 4: Right the violence is the. Violence the violence is the.

1598
01:39:35,240 --> 01:39:38,200
Speaker 4: Violence don't get me. WRONG i believe that people can

1599
01:39:38,280 --> 01:39:44,120
Speaker 4: be gendup to. THINGS i believe people can be incited to.

1600
01:39:44,200 --> 01:39:47,360
Speaker 4: Things but in the, end people are responsible for the

1601
01:39:47,400 --> 01:39:53,400
Speaker 4: actions they. Take they're responsible for being. Incited that much

1602
01:39:53,640 --> 01:39:56,960
Speaker 4: must be. REMEMBERED i don't say that there aren't things

1603
01:39:56,960 --> 01:39:59,200
Speaker 4: out there that are trying to lead people to very

1604
01:39:59,280 --> 01:40:02,519
Speaker 4: very ugly AND i have said this ABOUT msnbc and

1605
01:40:02,560 --> 01:40:04,400
Speaker 4: The New York times and the. Others has called for

1606
01:40:04,439 --> 01:40:07,680
Speaker 4: a lone, wolf this constant conversation About trump as threat to.

1607
01:40:07,720 --> 01:40:10,439
Speaker 2: DEMOCRACY i absolutely believe that's the.

1608
01:40:10,479 --> 01:40:13,599
Speaker 4: Case but it is these people who engage in Shooting

1609
01:40:13,840 --> 01:40:18,600
Speaker 4: President trump and Candidate, trump And butler, killing Assassinating Charlie.

1610
01:40:18,360 --> 01:40:21,080
Speaker 2: Kirk they are to. Blame but these other people don't

1611
01:40:21,080 --> 01:40:21,599
Speaker 2: get off scot.

1612
01:40:21,840 --> 01:40:24,240
Speaker 4: Free we have to remember what they're doing and we

1613
01:40:24,280 --> 01:40:28,559
Speaker 4: have to counter it with more, speech with us trying

1614
01:40:28,600 --> 01:40:29,920
Speaker 4: to persuade more.

1615
01:40:30,160 --> 01:40:32,680
Speaker 2: People THE q AND. A i'll try and.

1616
01:40:32,600 --> 01:40:34,720
Speaker 4: Bring that to you as much AS i can keep it.

1617
01:40:34,720 --> 01:40:37,719
Speaker 4: Here this Is Tony kats. Today when it came time

1618
01:40:37,800 --> 01:40:40,920
Speaker 4: for the questions and, answers it was interesting to me

1619
01:40:41,840 --> 01:40:46,599
Speaker 4: that only The, Governor Spencer, cox answered, questions and AS

1620
01:40:46,640 --> 01:40:49,360
Speaker 4: i was watching it, happen because this happened earlier, Today Tony,

1621
01:40:49,439 --> 01:40:52,600
Speaker 4: Katz Tony kats, TODAY i wanted to bring it to

1622
01:40:52,720 --> 01:40:56,439
Speaker 4: you as much as, possible everything that happened in the

1623
01:40:56,479 --> 01:41:01,120
Speaker 4: announcements of the arrest of a suspect in the assassination

1624
01:41:01,760 --> 01:41:05,120
Speaker 4: Of Charlie. Kirk this is a guy who was not

1625
01:41:06,400 --> 01:41:10,160
Speaker 4: a student At utah Val. University he lived at. Home

1626
01:41:12,080 --> 01:41:15,280
Speaker 4: the bullets where it was found written on them a,

1627
01:41:15,439 --> 01:41:20,360
Speaker 4: fascist exclamation, point catch exclamation, point some other things THAT

1628
01:41:21,000 --> 01:41:23,080
Speaker 4: i don't quite know what they mean. YET i think

1629
01:41:23,120 --> 01:41:26,920
Speaker 4: they'll be explained to us in the days. AHEAD i

1630
01:41:27,000 --> 01:41:29,879
Speaker 4: just found it interesting that it was only the, Governor Spencer,

1631
01:41:29,920 --> 01:41:33,519
Speaker 4: cox and Not Cash, pattel THE fbi, director answering the,

1632
01:41:33,600 --> 01:41:36,920
Speaker 4: questions not the Special agent in, charge not local law

1633
01:41:37,000 --> 01:41:41,960
Speaker 4: enforcement answering any of the. Questions AND i almost got

1634
01:41:41,960 --> 01:41:44,120
Speaker 4: the feel that that's the way the governor wanted, it

1635
01:41:44,400 --> 01:41:46,840
Speaker 4: wanted to be somebody who was in charge of the.

1636
01:41:46,920 --> 01:41:50,680
Speaker 4: Situation was this about putting his state at ease and

1637
01:41:50,800 --> 01:41:54,280
Speaker 4: maybe letting people know who he is on a national, level,

1638
01:41:54,520 --> 01:41:57,040
Speaker 4: Right it's an awful thing to think that the politics

1639
01:41:57,200 --> 01:41:59,240
Speaker 4: plays into any of, it but bother plays into every

1640
01:41:59,280 --> 01:41:59,560
Speaker 4: part of.

1641
01:41:59,600 --> 01:42:01,160
Speaker 2: It but we'll get to that another.

1642
01:42:01,240 --> 01:42:04,760
Speaker 4: Time so the sadly you didn't get to hear the,

1643
01:42:04,920 --> 01:42:07,080
Speaker 4: questions BUT i think that you'll get from some of

1644
01:42:07,120 --> 01:42:10,240
Speaker 4: the answers that we share here what some of the questions.

1645
01:42:10,240 --> 01:42:14,360
Speaker 2: Were so there was some information given.

1646
01:42:14,439 --> 01:42:17,640
Speaker 4: There let me get you to some of those responses

1647
01:42:17,680 --> 01:42:21,000
Speaker 4: from The governor Of, Utah Spencer, cox regarding the apprehension

1648
01:42:21,680 --> 01:42:24,679
Speaker 4: of the suspect in the assassination Of charlie Kirk.

1649
01:42:25,120 --> 01:42:27,160
Speaker 3: WELL i will leave that up to you to interpret

1650
01:42:27,160 --> 01:42:31,000
Speaker 3: what those engravings. MEAN i think the clearest one that

1651
01:42:31,080 --> 01:42:35,320
Speaker 3: says catch fascist there's. Not and by the, way that's

1652
01:42:35,360 --> 01:42:39,559
Speaker 3: like catch like a, ball catch, this THAT'S i think

1653
01:42:39,640 --> 01:42:43,120
Speaker 3: that that speaks for. Itself we do not at this

1654
01:42:43,280 --> 01:42:46,400
Speaker 3: time have any information that would lead to any additional. Arrests,

1655
01:42:47,920 --> 01:42:53,519
Speaker 3: yes but the investigation is. Ongoing, Yes so right, now

1656
01:42:53,640 --> 01:42:56,160
Speaker 3: Mister robinson has been booked into The Utah county. Jail

1657
01:42:57,720 --> 01:43:02,080
Speaker 3: you heard The president this morning report that that he

1658
01:43:02,320 --> 01:43:06,800
Speaker 3: was taken into, custody that that his family and and

1659
01:43:06,840 --> 01:43:11,840
Speaker 3: a friend helped to deliver him into to the in

1660
01:43:11,880 --> 01:43:14,280
Speaker 3: the custody of law enforcement In Washington. County for those

1661
01:43:14,280 --> 01:43:16,320
Speaker 3: of you that don't know Where Washington county, is it

1662
01:43:16,439 --> 01:43:19,600
Speaker 3: is the southern most southwestern most part of the state Of.

1663
01:43:19,680 --> 01:43:22,000
Speaker 3: Utah it's about a three and a half to four

1664
01:43:22,040 --> 01:43:25,080
Speaker 3: hour drive from here where we are right. Now and

1665
01:43:25,520 --> 01:43:28,720
Speaker 3: that's that's where where he lived and where he they

1666
01:43:29,000 --> 01:43:29,400
Speaker 3: turned him.

1667
01:43:29,400 --> 01:43:35,200
Speaker 2: In PLEASE i go, here so we we how we

1668
01:43:35,240 --> 01:43:37,320
Speaker 2: obtained the. Gun the gun was found was found.

1669
01:43:37,320 --> 01:43:43,559
Speaker 3: Here so SO i don't have much more details on.

1670
01:43:43,640 --> 01:43:47,000
Speaker 3: That we do know that that that he. Drove we

1671
01:43:47,080 --> 01:43:50,880
Speaker 3: had his car here on on campus and then and

1672
01:43:50,880 --> 01:43:54,640
Speaker 3: then we had his car going going south back to

1673
01:43:55,000 --> 01:43:57,760
Speaker 3: back to The Saint. George it's actually the city Of

1674
01:43:57,880 --> 01:44:02,000
Speaker 3: washington In Washington. COUNTY i absolutely believe that this is

1675
01:44:02,040 --> 01:44:05,320
Speaker 3: a watershed In american. History, yes the question is what

1676
01:44:05,439 --> 01:44:09,080
Speaker 3: kind of? Watershed and that chapter remains to be. Written

1677
01:44:09,120 --> 01:44:11,680
Speaker 3: is this the end of a dark chapter in our

1678
01:44:11,760 --> 01:44:15,400
Speaker 3: history or the beginning of a darker chapter in our? History,

1679
01:44:17,120 --> 01:44:21,880
Speaker 3: LOOK i, mean if you look at true political assassinations

1680
01:44:22,040 --> 01:44:26,519
Speaker 3: in this country of someone of this, stature this feels

1681
01:44:26,520 --> 01:44:30,320
Speaker 3: a lot like the late, sixties and having one so

1682
01:44:30,439 --> 01:44:34,160
Speaker 3: gruesomely displayed on camera.

1683
01:44:34,160 --> 01:44:36,080
Speaker 2: In all of our hands and in all of our.

1684
01:44:36,080 --> 01:44:44,640
Speaker 3: Pockets we are not wired as human beings biologically, historically

1685
01:44:45,160 --> 01:44:50,320
Speaker 3: we have not evolved in a way that we are

1686
01:44:50,760 --> 01:44:54,280
Speaker 3: capable of processing those types of violent. Imagery and by the,

1687
01:44:54,320 --> 01:44:56,840
Speaker 3: way we've seen another one with a gruesome stabbing very

1688
01:44:56,880 --> 01:45:00,000
Speaker 3: recently that went. Viral this is not good for. US,

1689
01:45:00,120 --> 01:45:03,400
Speaker 3: us it is not good to. Consume social media is

1690
01:45:03,400 --> 01:45:06,680
Speaker 3: a cancer on our society right. Now AND i would encourage,

1691
01:45:06,960 --> 01:45:09,760
Speaker 3: AGAIN i would encourage people to log, off, turnoff touch,

1692
01:45:09,800 --> 01:45:12,080
Speaker 3: grass hug a family, member go out and do good

1693
01:45:12,080 --> 01:45:12,360
Speaker 3: in your.

1694
01:45:12,360 --> 01:45:14,920
Speaker 2: Community so when he's.

1695
01:45:14,800 --> 01:45:18,519
Speaker 3: First spoted on, campus he has different clothing, on and

1696
01:45:18,600 --> 01:45:22,960
Speaker 3: then he changes clothing on the roof and then changed

1697
01:45:23,000 --> 01:45:25,120
Speaker 3: back into that clothing at some, point so that when

1698
01:45:25,560 --> 01:45:28,400
Speaker 3: when he was when he was, apprehended when he when

1699
01:45:28,400 --> 01:45:31,519
Speaker 3: he was, arrested the clothing matched the clothing he had

1700
01:45:31,640 --> 01:45:32,439
Speaker 3: on before the.

1701
01:45:32,479 --> 01:45:36,320
Speaker 4: Shooting so that's WHERE i basically ended the questions and

1702
01:45:36,360 --> 01:45:42,360
Speaker 4: answers with The Utah Governor Spencer cox answering the. Questions,

1703
01:45:42,400 --> 01:45:48,839
Speaker 4: AGAIN i do find it peculiar that THE fbi director

1704
01:45:49,000 --> 01:45:54,760
Speaker 4: did not answer any. QUESTIONS i thought that was certainly

1705
01:45:55,240 --> 01:45:57,799
Speaker 4: it certainly wasn't WHAT i was. Expecting and it's something

1706
01:45:57,800 --> 01:46:01,240
Speaker 4: about that hits me, awkward AND i just not totally sure.

1707
01:46:01,120 --> 01:46:01,519
Speaker 2: What it is.

1708
01:46:01,640 --> 01:46:05,120
Speaker 4: Yet BUT i am glad that there's a suspect in

1709
01:46:05,160 --> 01:46:08,800
Speaker 4: custody based on what we have, now there's already a

1710
01:46:08,880 --> 01:46:13,840
Speaker 4: confession that took, place the confession to the father that had,

1711
01:46:13,880 --> 01:46:19,839
Speaker 4: happened and it went from. There the idea of motive

1712
01:46:20,040 --> 01:46:23,840
Speaker 4: is being hinted at. DISCUSSED i think that based on

1713
01:46:24,000 --> 01:46:28,360
Speaker 4: as the governor, said when you've got a bullet casing

1714
01:46:28,360 --> 01:46:32,680
Speaker 4: that you inscribed into, it, hey fascist exclamation, point catch exclamation,

1715
01:46:32,760 --> 01:46:36,880
Speaker 4: points you understand what's going, on and you understand how

1716
01:46:36,960 --> 01:46:40,920
Speaker 4: all of this talk and all this rhetoric from certain

1717
01:46:40,960 --> 01:46:43,439
Speaker 4: people on certain sides of the aisle are leading to

1718
01:46:43,520 --> 01:46:46,799
Speaker 4: these violent acts and the attacks on people on the political.

1719
01:46:46,880 --> 01:46:50,280
Speaker 4: Rights we're gonna condemn all the political, attacks but we

1720
01:46:50,280 --> 01:46:52,879
Speaker 4: should be honest about what's happening without.

1721
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