WEBVTT - The Witch (10th Anniversary) 0:00:01.690 --> 0:00:03.670 The Frames Per Second Podcast. 0:00:09.570 --> 0:00:12.789 Welcome to another episode of The Frames Per Second Podcast. 0:00:12.830 --> 0:00:14.380 I'm your host for the evening. My name is Mike. 0:00:15.400 --> 0:00:16.740 And across from me, I have Rod. 0:00:16.860 --> 0:00:17.220 What up, man? 0:00:17.660 --> 0:00:18.780 And next to Rod, I have Ken. 0:00:18.980 --> 0:00:19.260 Hola. 0:00:20.739 --> 0:00:23.779 Spike is here, but his ass is over in the 0:00:23.860 --> 0:00:28.100 corner under the bright light. He's scared, y'all. He don't 0:00:28.120 --> 0:00:29.040 want to come on this shit. 0:00:29.280 --> 0:00:29.360 Hmm. 0:00:30.000 --> 0:00:32.660 So it's just us, us three. We're going to do a, 0:00:33.090 --> 0:00:35.990 I guess, an anniversary. I can't remember what year. 0:00:35.990 --> 0:00:36.590 2016? 0:00:36.590 --> 0:00:40.170 This was 2015 that this came out, wasn't it? 0:00:40.190 --> 0:00:42.210 I think it was 2016. It was a 10-year anniversary. 0:00:42.229 --> 0:00:42.589 Was it 2016? 0:00:42.590 --> 0:00:43.860 I thought it was 2015. 0:00:43.850 --> 0:00:44.110 Okay. 0:00:44.570 --> 0:00:45.490 All right, well, 10 years. 0:00:45.490 --> 0:00:50.519 10 years of The Witch, written and directed by Robert Eggers. 0:00:50.530 --> 0:00:55.100 This was his first feature-length film that he wrote and directed. 0:00:55.650 --> 0:00:58.070 I'm surprised we didn't. I don't know why I have. 0:00:57.950 --> 0:00:59.529 Some weird memory of us reviewing this. 0:00:59.670 --> 0:01:01.110 I thought we did. I did, too. 0:01:01.210 --> 0:01:03.710 I think y'all did. Jalen swears we didn't. I thought 0:01:03.750 --> 0:01:04.690 y'all did with Naomi. 0:01:05.410 --> 0:01:08.650 Because I remember vividly Naomi watching it in the house, 0:01:08.870 --> 0:01:10.929 and I hadn't watched it yet. And I thought she 0:01:10.970 --> 0:01:12.910 was watching it because y'all were going to review it. 0:01:13.870 --> 0:01:14.810 I'm confused, then. 0:01:14.830 --> 0:01:18.030 And I feel like I remember talking about it, too, 0:01:18.060 --> 0:01:19.140 but maybe it was off camera. 0:01:19.819 --> 0:01:23.259 If we reviewed it, then we're reviewing it again. Yeah. 0:01:24.840 --> 0:01:26.700 Yeah, so I guess I'll just do a quick go 0:01:26.720 --> 0:01:33.890 around the room. Ken, how do you feel about this movie? 0:01:34.840 --> 0:01:38.890 So I'm with you. I do feel like we've discussed 0:01:38.930 --> 0:01:42.570 this movie before, if not an official review. It's one 0:01:42.590 --> 0:01:48.490 of the rare movies that I re-watch. But this one 0:01:49.550 --> 0:01:55.470 felt a little different different. I still enjoy the movie. 0:01:57.830 --> 0:02:04.640 And I enjoy watching it this time as well. But, 0:02:05.360 --> 0:02:08.160 I don't know. Maybe because it was just, I was, 0:02:08.180 --> 0:02:11.760 hold on, I don't want to even put this in there. 0:02:12.540 --> 0:02:13.660 You know they don't like it when you say that. 0:02:13.710 --> 0:02:16.130 <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> 0:02:16.169 --> 0:02:17.430 So I ain't gonna even say it. I ain't gonna 0:02:17.450 --> 0:02:19.730 even say it. Yes, I do enjoy the movie. I'll 0:02:19.750 --> 0:02:21.989 just say that. Yes, I do enjoy the movie. I do. 0:02:22.010 --> 0:02:23.830 It's one of the one movie, It's one of the 0:02:23.870 --> 0:02:25.750 rare movies that I actually rewatch. 0:02:26.669 --> 0:02:27.149 Okay. 0:02:27.290 --> 0:02:29.250 Rod, on the rewatch, are you digging this movie? I 0:02:29.250 --> 0:02:30.470 can't remember if you liked it or not. 0:02:31.190 --> 0:02:32.149 I did. I do. 0:02:32.510 --> 0:02:41.679 Or whatever. The rewatch, I don't know if it hit 0:02:41.760 --> 0:02:43.660 as hard on the rewatch. 0:02:43.820 --> 0:02:44.360 It's weird. 0:02:44.380 --> 0:02:47.260 I was like, I remember really, really liking this movie. 0:02:48.320 --> 0:02:51.340 But something about the rewatch, I was just like, whatever. 0:02:52.660 --> 0:02:53.400 It's a good movie. 0:02:54.480 --> 0:02:58.250 But I wasn't, like, blown away. And it was weird. Like, 0:02:58.260 --> 0:03:00.790 I was like, why do I remember really, really liking 0:03:00.810 --> 0:03:05.270 this movie? But, no, I think it's still a great film. 0:03:06.070 --> 0:03:08.530 I'm just not blown away by it anymore for whatever reason. 0:03:08.570 --> 0:03:11.350 I don't know what it is, but for whatever reason, 0:03:11.370 --> 0:03:13.570 after I finished watching it, I was like, oh, okay, yeah, 0:03:14.160 --> 0:03:14.660 that was good. 0:03:14.680 --> 0:03:16.419 I just remember liking it a little bit more than 0:03:16.440 --> 0:03:18.320 I like it right now. Interesting. 0:03:18.540 --> 0:03:18.840 Yeah. 0:03:18.919 --> 0:03:19.339 Interesting. 0:03:19.580 --> 0:03:19.780 Yeah. 0:03:20.610 --> 0:03:23.590 Well, this is easily one of my favorite horror movies 0:03:24.050 --> 0:03:26.859 at this point. Probably all time favorite. One of my 0:03:26.880 --> 0:03:27.960 all time favorite horror movies. 0:03:27.980 --> 0:03:29.400 See, that's where I was putting it. I was putting 0:03:29.419 --> 0:03:31.980 it as like up there, up there. But I didn't 0:03:32.040 --> 0:03:33.320 feel that way this time for some reason. 0:03:33.340 --> 0:03:36.940 I don't know why. But yeah, I don't know why. 0:03:36.960 --> 0:03:38.740 I mean, it might be for some people. 0:03:38.760 --> 0:03:40.300 It might be one of those movies that once you 0:03:40.340 --> 0:03:43.100 know what happens at the end, it's just like, all right, well, 0:03:43.200 --> 0:03:44.800 it's like Usual Suspects. 0:03:45.330 --> 0:03:45.830 Yeah. 0:03:46.850 --> 0:03:49.690 Usual Suspects is never going to hit the same after 0:03:49.710 --> 0:03:52.810 the first time because now you know, spoiler alert, it's 0:03:52.870 --> 0:03:54.210 fucking Kevin Spacey's ass. 0:03:54.730 --> 0:03:57.230 So it's just like, eh, whatever. It could be that. 0:03:57.450 --> 0:04:01.110 For me, I just like watching the whole breakdown of 0:04:01.130 --> 0:04:05.270 this Christian family and then all the weird iconography and 0:04:06.110 --> 0:04:08.590 the folklore and all that stuff. I just enjoy that shit. 0:04:09.030 --> 0:04:09.250 Right. 0:04:09.630 --> 0:04:11.150 But I think you hit it on the head. That's 0:04:11.170 --> 0:04:14.470 what it is. Once you know It's like, okay, I'm 0:04:14.510 --> 0:04:15.830 waiting for it to happen. 0:04:16.110 --> 0:04:16.410 Yeah, yeah. 0:04:16.470 --> 0:04:18.250 And it's like, but when I first watched it, I 0:04:18.250 --> 0:04:20.250 was like, God dang, he really, you know what I'm saying? 0:04:20.270 --> 0:04:22.969 I'm like, dang, what's going to happen next? Like, whoa, 0:04:22.990 --> 0:04:24.890 because it's like you go through all the, I know 0:04:24.910 --> 0:04:26.190 we're going to go through the movie, but you go 0:04:26.210 --> 0:04:30.099 through each family member. I'm just like, just trying to 0:04:30.140 --> 0:04:32.400 figure that out. Like, you know, what's going to happen 0:04:32.440 --> 0:04:35.440 next was the allure. Yeah, it was like the fun 0:04:35.520 --> 0:04:38.979 of it. Yeah, but now knowing, like I can vividly 0:04:39.060 --> 0:04:43.860 see basically each scene, even to the end when she ascends. 0:04:44.700 --> 0:04:47.780 I know it's coming. It's just like, yeah, I think 0:04:47.820 --> 0:04:49.460 you're right. I think that's why it doesn't hit that 0:04:49.500 --> 0:04:49.979 hard right now. 0:04:50.500 --> 0:04:51.640 There are a lot. 0:04:51.480 --> 0:04:54.800 Of horror movies that if they don't have cool shit 0:04:54.839 --> 0:04:57.660 happening in between the beginning and the end, then it's 0:04:57.680 --> 0:04:59.580 just like, well, okay, well, I know the end, so 0:04:59.680 --> 0:05:01.820 I have no desire to rewatch this. 0:05:02.700 --> 0:05:04.919 But this is not one of those films for me. 0:05:05.160 --> 0:05:08.560 For me, I love the acting. I love the cinematography. 0:05:09.160 --> 0:05:11.680 I love all of the detail that Robert Eggers puts 0:05:11.760 --> 0:05:15.969 into this film. It's always funny talking with the homie Alaska. 0:05:16.750 --> 0:05:18.490 He's a rapper, Rod, in case you weren't familiar. 0:05:18.790 --> 0:05:22.690 That's right. He hates this movie. Oh, okay. 0:05:22.730 --> 0:05:25.570 He fucking hates this movie and he hates Robert Eggers' films. 0:05:25.950 --> 0:05:28.420 And it's always funny. Anytime Robert Eggers comes up in 0:05:28.440 --> 0:05:29.880 our group chat, he's like, man, I hate that guy. 0:05:30.360 --> 0:05:31.060 I hate his movies. 0:05:31.540 --> 0:05:34.060 I don't understand how that is. 0:05:34.830 --> 0:05:36.550 Because he likes slow burn. I don't know what it is. 0:05:36.610 --> 0:05:38.089 Alaska, you have to bring your ass on here one 0:05:38.110 --> 0:05:39.630 of these days and we have to battle this out. 0:05:40.250 --> 0:05:42.100 But I love this movie. 0:05:42.839 --> 0:05:44.880 One of my favorites. And let's go ahead and get 0:05:45.260 --> 0:05:48.700 into it. It starts off. Actually, I'll throw this out 0:05:48.720 --> 0:05:49.100 there too. 0:05:50.220 --> 0:05:52.099 I think what makes me love this movie so much 0:05:52.160 --> 0:05:53.700 is every time I watch it, I see something different. 0:05:54.510 --> 0:05:56.710 Shit that I did not notice before. And even this 0:05:57.029 --> 0:06:00.470 most recent time, I watched it again on Friday night. 0:06:01.250 --> 0:06:02.990 There was something that I picked up that I did 0:06:03.029 --> 0:06:03.770 not catch before. 0:06:04.450 --> 0:06:06.260 But yeah, we'll get into it. 0:06:06.330 --> 0:06:09.969 Starts off in 1630s in New England and we meet William, 0:06:10.529 --> 0:06:16.830 his wife Catherine, daughter Thomason, son Caleb, twins Mercy and Jonas, 0:06:17.310 --> 0:06:21.170 and then we have baby Samuel. One other thing I'll 0:06:21.190 --> 0:06:24.550 throw out real quick, I feel like if you really 0:06:24.589 --> 0:06:28.000 enjoy this movie, it will behoove you to sit down 0:06:28.140 --> 0:06:32.910 and just Google some of the religious themes in And 0:06:32.950 --> 0:06:35.650 especially when it comes to the names of the people 0:06:35.850 --> 0:06:38.909 in this film. And I think that'll also make some 0:06:38.950 --> 0:06:41.980 things pop. Because that's some shit that I didn't do before. 0:06:43.080 --> 0:06:45.820 But yeah, they're being excommunicated from a religious settlement over 0:06:45.839 --> 0:06:48.339 a dispute. And they go off into the wilderness and 0:06:48.360 --> 0:06:50.740 they find an area where they can build a farm. 0:06:52.700 --> 0:06:54.570 I know it's hard to try to get y'all to 0:06:54.589 --> 0:06:57.150 remember 2015. Because so much shit has happened since then. 0:06:57.190 --> 0:07:00.350 But do y'all remember when you started this? If y'all 0:07:00.370 --> 0:07:03.530 were like, oh, this is actually a cool setting. Or 0:07:03.770 --> 0:07:05.610 if you were like, man, I'm not trying to watch 0:07:05.830 --> 0:07:09.050 old white people looking like fucking Amish motherfuckers. 0:07:09.130 --> 0:07:10.870 I'm not trying to watch two hours of this shit. 0:07:11.170 --> 0:07:11.550 The latter. 0:07:12.990 --> 0:07:15.100 I did remember because I normally don't like stuff like that. 0:07:15.320 --> 0:07:16.360 Or I won't say I don't like it. 0:07:16.360 --> 0:07:19.679 It is kind of like a. Not your favorite. 0:07:19.700 --> 0:07:22.320 Yeah, not my favorite. But, you know, some people do 0:07:22.360 --> 0:07:24.960 it well. And I think he did it well, you know, 0:07:25.400 --> 0:07:26.460 because even from the language. 0:07:26.520 --> 0:07:27.800 Right. Like, you know. 0:07:29.110 --> 0:07:32.230 I actually don't mind having the subtitles on this one 0:07:32.290 --> 0:07:36.670 in particular. You have to. But yeah, the latter. 0:07:36.690 --> 0:07:39.840 I normally see it and I'm like, we got to 0:07:39.880 --> 0:07:44.140 stay here all movie. But no, it made sense for 0:07:44.180 --> 0:07:45.500 this or whatever. 0:07:45.840 --> 0:07:51.270 So yeah. No, I think for the title, for the movie, 0:07:51.290 --> 0:07:58.940 and what was happening back then, it made sense. So 0:07:59.440 --> 0:08:02.800 to your question, no, it didn't bother me because I 0:08:02.820 --> 0:08:04.820 felt like, you know, they'll find a way to make 0:08:04.880 --> 0:08:08.900 it work and make it make sense. And there's a 0:08:09.040 --> 0:08:13.300 lack of, you know, there's a lot of faith and 0:08:13.360 --> 0:08:17.000 there's a lack of information that people have access to now. 0:08:17.640 --> 0:08:23.150 So you become like a victim of those things as well. So, 0:08:24.310 --> 0:08:27.190 but no, I'd, I always kind of find that sort 0:08:27.230 --> 0:08:29.290 of time period interesting because I'm like, how the hell 0:08:29.310 --> 0:08:32.190 did y'all even fucking make it? You know, just seeing 0:08:32.210 --> 0:08:34.069 the way they have to survive and shit like that. 0:08:34.530 --> 0:08:35.870 It was rough. It was rough. 0:08:37.330 --> 0:08:39.490 Yeah, whenever I watch this shit, it always makes me 0:08:39.510 --> 0:08:41.250 think of that Oregon Trail game. 0:08:41.270 --> 0:08:41.730 Oh, yeah. 0:08:42.230 --> 0:08:44.370 You young folks wouldn't know nothing about this, but this 0:08:44.410 --> 0:08:44.990 was our shit. 0:08:45.010 --> 0:08:45.540 God, was this 80s? 0:08:45.530 --> 0:08:46.710 Oregon Trail? 0:08:47.550 --> 0:08:47.760 Yeah. 80s? 0:08:52.030 --> 0:08:54.870 Yeah man for y'all youngsters that was that was the 0:08:54.929 --> 0:08:57.370 game that we had to play and everybody knows that's 0:08:57.390 --> 0:09:00.090 the only reason we know what dysentery is cause everybody 0:09:00.309 --> 0:09:03.110 ass died from dysentery at some point in that game 0:09:03.150 --> 0:09:05.930 but it always makes me think of these you know 0:09:06.190 --> 0:09:08.290 that old ass game but I don't really care for 0:09:08.330 --> 0:09:10.650 this time period I don't really care for movies in 0:09:10.670 --> 0:09:15.120 this time period and it's mainly the language you know 0:09:15.400 --> 0:09:19.480 everybody fucking douse with on the good morrow I don't 0:09:19.500 --> 0:09:21.520 wanna hear that shit I don't wanna hear that shit 0:09:21.890 --> 0:09:22.910 It's confusing as hell. 0:09:23.309 --> 0:09:26.240 Speak white. Don't speak old white. Speak new white. 0:09:26.520 --> 0:09:29.740 I'm not trying to hear that shit. But this one 0:09:30.059 --> 0:09:33.439 works because once I got the subtitles down, it just 0:09:33.800 --> 0:09:35.260 adds to the movie. 0:09:35.420 --> 0:09:36.220 It makes sense. 0:09:36.320 --> 0:09:40.110 It puts you in that era and it feels so 0:09:40.170 --> 0:09:43.329 fucking cool. Also because I wasn't, prior to this movie, 0:09:43.450 --> 0:09:49.229 I wasn't super familiar with Puritan Christians. And for those listening, 0:09:49.270 --> 0:09:53.660 they're reformed Protestants. They believe that God controls every single 0:09:53.880 --> 0:09:55.560 aspect of your life. And I know we like to 0:09:55.580 --> 0:09:58.350 think that all Christians think that, but that's not the case. 0:09:58.830 --> 0:10:03.220 Protestants think that it's legit. I'm sorry, Puritans think that 0:10:03.260 --> 0:10:06.960 it's everything, everything that happens, God. 0:10:06.679 --> 0:10:07.679 Is in control. 0:10:08.120 --> 0:10:11.740 So then when you have this idea of the Father William, 0:10:12.580 --> 0:10:15.459 why he's getting excommunicated, all they say is prideful deceit. 0:10:16.910 --> 0:10:17.100 Right. 0:10:17.250 --> 0:10:18.740 So that's what I was going to ask you. Like, yeah, 0:10:18.920 --> 0:10:20.460 prideful deceit. What does that mean? 0:10:21.120 --> 0:10:25.680 So from what I know, it just basically means that 0:10:25.860 --> 0:10:28.939 he thinks he knows more than everybody else. But it also, 0:10:29.000 --> 0:10:31.250 if you Google it, it says pride in your possessions, 0:10:32.130 --> 0:10:36.030 which would be an issue because, you know, Christians look 0:10:36.070 --> 0:10:38.270 at that kind of thing as like worshiping false idols. 0:10:39.610 --> 0:10:42.470 And I think it gets worse when it comes to like, oh, 0:10:42.550 --> 0:10:46.410 I have this this car. and it's an amazing car, 0:10:46.490 --> 0:10:48.309 and I love this car. Do you love this car 0:10:48.330 --> 0:10:54.460 more than God? But prideful deceit, they never really explain 0:10:54.600 --> 0:10:57.100 exactly what it is that William did. But by the 0:10:57.130 --> 0:10:59.840 time we get to the end of the movie, I 0:10:59.920 --> 0:11:02.620 think we can put together that William was just talking back, 0:11:02.720 --> 0:11:05.179 basically being like, I know more than y'all. Because he 0:11:05.200 --> 0:11:07.839 was telling them, you can't tell me shit, you're a 0:11:07.880 --> 0:11:12.080 false Christian. So that's the only thing I can figure out, 0:11:12.100 --> 0:11:13.980 because they don't ever say it specifically. 0:11:14.740 --> 0:11:17.700 What happens so that that's interesting because if he's saying 0:11:17.720 --> 0:11:21.339 they're false christians and if you believe everything is controlled 0:11:21.380 --> 0:11:25.210 by god so he's basically saying like you guys are 0:11:25.230 --> 0:11:27.790 making it seem like you're bigger than god okay. 0:11:27.750 --> 0:11:33.530 Yeah basically um because because they they separated because they 0:11:33.590 --> 0:11:37.640 thought that um god i forget who the protestants broke 0:11:37.700 --> 0:11:43.250 from it's not pentecostals i don't remember but Whatever group 0:11:43.270 --> 0:11:45.880 they broke away from, they thought that they weren't following 0:11:46.900 --> 0:11:50.600 the law correctly. So then you get this group that's 0:11:50.660 --> 0:11:53.700 already broken from this group that says y'all weren't following 0:11:53.720 --> 0:11:55.640 it right. Then you have a member of the broken 0:11:55.679 --> 0:11:58.200 away group that's like, nope, y'all still ain't following it right. 0:11:58.700 --> 0:12:01.970 So they're really looking at them like, wait a minute. Like, 0:12:02.120 --> 0:12:04.010 you must be out your fucking mind. We already left 0:12:04.050 --> 0:12:05.910 this other group because we're trying to follow the law. 0:12:05.970 --> 0:12:09.069 And now you're saying we're not following it closely. So 0:12:11.050 --> 0:12:15.850 they had to leave. So, one day when playing with Samuel, 0:12:15.890 --> 0:12:18.870 Thomason finds that Samuel has been taken. And I still 0:12:18.890 --> 0:12:22.250 remember this moment in the movie. We then see someone 0:12:22.290 --> 0:12:24.929 running through the woods with him. Then we see an 0:12:25.090 --> 0:12:28.710 old naked woman in a cabin doing something. So, did 0:12:28.730 --> 0:12:30.790 y'all know what she was doing when she was in 0:12:30.830 --> 0:12:31.250 the cabin? 0:12:31.970 --> 0:12:37.260 Mm-hmm. This was all... Even now, to this day, I 0:12:37.280 --> 0:12:41.740 still can't believe they did this shit. Like, kill... Killing 0:12:41.800 --> 0:12:44.320 a baby. I kept waiting for it to be fake. 0:12:44.420 --> 0:12:47.400 I kept waiting for it to not be real. I 0:12:47.440 --> 0:12:50.160 was like, when we saw the little ground-up baby meat, 0:12:50.280 --> 0:12:53.689 I was like, ain't no way. She killed that baby 0:12:53.750 --> 0:12:56.010 and ground it up and put it on her. I 0:12:57.590 --> 0:12:59.730 guess trying to get young or something. I don't know. 0:12:59.750 --> 0:13:01.530 I have no idea what she was doing. That's what 0:13:01.550 --> 0:13:02.790 she was doing. 0:13:03.450 --> 0:13:10.410 But I still couldn't believe that that actually happened. And 0:13:10.429 --> 0:13:12.530 that she took that baby and killed that baby. But 0:13:12.550 --> 0:13:14.290 the way they did it was so dope, because you 0:13:14.309 --> 0:13:16.429 see the baby just there, and then all of a 0:13:16.429 --> 0:13:17.890 sudden you see the knife come in the picture. 0:13:18.030 --> 0:13:20.670 Yeah, it implies they did a really good job with that. 0:13:20.910 --> 0:13:21.570 Man, yeah. 0:13:22.470 --> 0:13:24.050 I thought she was going to circumcise him, that's all. 0:13:24.750 --> 0:13:25.570 That's what you really thought? 0:13:26.309 --> 0:13:28.209 I didn't pick it up until, I think, the second 0:13:28.230 --> 0:13:30.310 time I watched the movie. I didn't pick up that 0:13:30.350 --> 0:13:32.120 she had crunched that baby up. 0:13:34.380 --> 0:13:35.180 I just didn't believe you. 0:13:35.200 --> 0:13:40.610 I just said, hmm. I can't fucking stand you. But no, 0:13:40.650 --> 0:13:42.650 I really didn't. It was a stupid moment. 0:13:42.670 --> 0:13:45.089 Because when I look back on it now, I'm like, 0:13:45.130 --> 0:13:47.089 how did I miss that? But I saw the knife. 0:13:47.610 --> 0:13:49.570 And the next thing we saw, her little naked ass. 0:13:49.910 --> 0:13:51.770 And she was doing this. So I thought she was 0:13:51.870 --> 0:13:52.550 making something. 0:13:52.590 --> 0:13:54.670 I saw blood. Yeah. 0:13:55.090 --> 0:13:56.890 I did not know that she had killed the baby 0:13:57.470 --> 0:13:59.510 until the second time I watched the film. 0:13:59.770 --> 0:14:02.140 That's crazy. I was just like, where's the baby at? 0:14:03.770 --> 0:14:05.130 They're not going to talk about the baby no more. 0:14:05.150 --> 0:14:06.730 That shit was eerie as hell when she was doing 0:14:06.750 --> 0:14:07.750 the peek-a-boo shit. 0:14:08.070 --> 0:14:08.370 Yeah. 0:14:08.410 --> 0:14:10.530 She did that last time. You kind of felt it 0:14:10.570 --> 0:14:12.880 was coming, but it's like, oh, shit, the baby really going. 0:14:13.580 --> 0:14:15.340 It happened so fast. It did. It happened so fast. 0:14:15.380 --> 0:14:18.520 I didn't see her running through the woods, though. That's 0:14:18.559 --> 0:14:19.900 one of the pieces that I was telling you. 0:14:20.500 --> 0:14:21.120 You pick up. 0:14:21.180 --> 0:14:23.760 The more times you watch this movie, because if you 0:14:23.800 --> 0:14:26.770 watch closely, when she looks up, there's a little piece 0:14:26.850 --> 0:14:28.290 of a plant that does this. 0:14:28.390 --> 0:14:30.270 And then the very next scene. That's how she knew 0:14:30.290 --> 0:14:30.790 it was over there. 0:14:31.310 --> 0:14:33.710 Yeah, the next scene, it shows the woods and you 0:14:33.750 --> 0:14:35.960 see this woman running in the woods. But it's for 0:14:35.980 --> 0:14:37.220 like two seconds, if that. 0:14:37.240 --> 0:14:39.460 Yeah, I didn't see it. So you don't really notice it. 0:14:39.520 --> 0:14:41.500 And you pick it up because I believe she's wearing 0:14:41.540 --> 0:14:44.200 a red cloak, which is the same red cloak she's 0:14:44.240 --> 0:14:51.100 wearing later. But if we did review this movie, I 0:14:51.180 --> 0:14:54.700 imagine I brought this up, but so when they crunched, 0:14:54.720 --> 0:14:58.370 this is in old English folklore, when they crunched these 0:14:58.430 --> 0:15:01.930 babies up, it's not to make themselves look young. That is, 0:15:02.010 --> 0:15:05.130 that is also a potion because that's just a disguise. 0:15:05.650 --> 0:15:09.690 You know, what it is is it's flying ointment. So 0:15:09.770 --> 0:15:12.790 this is something that dates back all the way back 0:15:12.840 --> 0:15:16.060 to old English. There's folklore that witches would take babies, 0:15:16.120 --> 0:15:20.820 especially if they're not baptized, they would kill them, crunch 0:15:20.860 --> 0:15:23.540 them up and they use it to make ointment so 0:15:23.560 --> 0:15:25.910 they can fly. So that's why there's like a, a 0:15:26.010 --> 0:15:28.870 scene where after she crunches the baby up she puts 0:15:28.890 --> 0:15:30.910 the blood all over herself and you see there's like 0:15:30.960 --> 0:15:34.620 a long stick she's rubbing it all over the stick 0:15:35.200 --> 0:15:38.760 that's what that is it's called flying ointment. 0:15:38.900 --> 0:15:42.739 So she was like a witch witch that's. 0:15:41.420 --> 0:15:44.040 What I'm saying the movie is great and the thing 0:15:44.080 --> 0:15:46.380 about it is y'all still like the movie without doing 0:15:46.400 --> 0:15:48.900 this nerdy googling shit once you sit down and start 0:15:48.960 --> 0:15:53.350 googling stuff it really shows how amazing Robert Eggers is 0:15:53.380 --> 0:15:56.170 he does not fuck around Like, there are so many 0:15:56.290 --> 0:15:59.350 details in this film. I feel like anything that seems 0:15:59.610 --> 0:16:02.290 odd in the movie, just Google it. And it will 0:16:02.330 --> 0:16:02.810 make sense. 0:16:02.850 --> 0:16:03.330 Yeah, I'm sure. 0:16:03.350 --> 0:16:06.500 I remember you saying that before. I just never, I 0:16:06.520 --> 0:16:09.280 just haven't taken the time to do it. Yeah. But 0:16:09.880 --> 0:16:12.760 that's flying on me. That's insane. Yeah. 0:16:13.020 --> 0:16:16.830 It's pretty, this one coming up is also another interesting one. 0:16:16.870 --> 0:16:18.010 But real quick. 0:16:18.050 --> 0:16:18.410 Yeah, go ahead. 0:16:19.700 --> 0:16:22.370 It's almost like it works both ways, though. It's like 0:16:22.420 --> 0:16:25.330 it works if you have the information like you do. Oh, yeah, sure. 0:16:25.350 --> 0:16:29.290 And if you don't, that's kind of crazy. Because I'm like, oh, 0:16:29.310 --> 0:16:32.030 she's trying to make herself young. Right. And it works 0:16:32.370 --> 0:16:34.210 as a viewer that doesn't know that because that's one 0:16:34.230 --> 0:16:37.710 of the folklores or whatever that's been known about witches. 0:16:38.970 --> 0:16:41.170 But if you know what's actually happening, it adds another 0:16:41.220 --> 0:16:43.920 layer and it flips what she's actually doing to a 0:16:43.940 --> 0:16:46.340 deeper meaning. That's kind of dope that he did that. 0:16:47.020 --> 0:16:50.680 He's, man, I'm telling you. It's the same shit with 0:16:51.340 --> 0:16:54.260 The Lighthouse. It's the same shit with The Northmen. Robert 0:16:54.320 --> 0:16:56.580 Eggers is dope. Alaska, get your shit together, bro. 0:16:56.620 --> 0:16:58.280 Yeah, because you have to study this stuff. 0:16:58.300 --> 0:17:00.500 You can't just blanketly just make a movie like this 0:17:00.610 --> 0:17:02.230 without proper study work. 0:17:02.280 --> 0:17:05.310 You really can't. He does not play. 0:17:05.790 --> 0:17:07.610 But the reason I know that The Ointment was not 0:17:07.670 --> 0:17:10.760 specifically to make herself look young is... And we'll get 0:17:10.800 --> 0:17:14.199 to the scene when she captures Caleb. Her hand is 0:17:14.240 --> 0:17:16.000 still like an old lady's hand. So you can tell 0:17:16.060 --> 0:17:18.570 then that it's just a disguise. Yeah, it's just like a, 0:17:18.580 --> 0:17:22.260 you know. So yeah, in the next scene, we see 0:17:22.300 --> 0:17:24.590 a few important things. We see Catherine's been crying and 0:17:24.609 --> 0:17:28.929 praying for Samuel's return. We also see that Caleb is 0:17:29.150 --> 0:17:31.170 a little bit of a pervert because he's been staring 0:17:31.190 --> 0:17:34.609 at his sister's titties. And then we see Caleb and 0:17:34.650 --> 0:17:36.930 William go out into the woods. You think that doesn't 0:17:36.950 --> 0:17:37.510 make you a pervert? 0:17:40.560 --> 0:17:41.859 I don't know if he was, I don't know if 0:17:41.880 --> 0:17:44.220 I looked at it as a pervert, just like almost like, 0:17:45.440 --> 0:17:46.300 not adolescence, but. 0:17:46.480 --> 0:17:47.530 Yeah, puberty. Puberty. 0:17:48.170 --> 0:17:49.230 That's still your sister though. 0:17:49.390 --> 0:17:49.550 Huh? 0:17:49.650 --> 0:17:50.389 That's still your sister. 0:17:50.510 --> 0:17:53.389 Yeah, yeah, it's still your sister, but like, like they 0:17:53.430 --> 0:17:57.510 say too, like, you know, like boys, like boys are like, 0:17:57.550 --> 0:17:59.570 their mom is their first crush and stuff like that. 0:17:59.590 --> 0:18:00.780 Yeah, it's the first, it's the titties you see. 0:18:00.890 --> 0:18:04.869 Yeah, so it's like, so I don't look at it as, 0:18:05.500 --> 0:18:07.159 like pervert because he was just like, you know, he 0:18:07.200 --> 0:18:08.120 didn't really want to. 0:18:08.140 --> 0:18:08.790 Yes, he did. 0:18:08.810 --> 0:18:11.070 He was turned away. No, he didn't. 0:18:11.330 --> 0:18:13.430 He didn't want to get caught. He was looking at 0:18:13.450 --> 0:18:15.350 them little half non-existent titties. 0:18:15.430 --> 0:18:16.390 I know, I wouldn't even know. 0:18:16.490 --> 0:18:17.830 I didn't even know titties to see. 0:18:17.850 --> 0:18:18.750 It was just like a lot. 0:18:18.770 --> 0:18:20.949 It was just like, this man don't even know what 0:18:20.970 --> 0:18:24.389 titties is. Like, where is the cleavage? What are we 0:18:24.410 --> 0:18:24.909 looking at? 0:18:25.150 --> 0:18:27.430 But, I didn't look at it as a pervert thing. 0:18:27.630 --> 0:18:29.100