1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,160 Speaker 1: You were listening to the best of the Fan morning 2 00:00:02,200 --> 00:00:05,040 Speaker 1: show on ninety three five and one oh seven five 3 00:00:05,360 --> 00:00:05,920 Speaker 1: the Fan. 4 00:00:07,680 --> 00:00:09,520 Speaker 2: I haven't heard this one for quite a while, Mark 5 00:00:09,560 --> 00:00:11,000 Speaker 2: dykon where did you come up with that one? 6 00:00:11,000 --> 00:00:11,200 Speaker 3: There? 7 00:00:11,720 --> 00:00:14,920 Speaker 4: Going bank of songs here? I like the way you 8 00:00:15,000 --> 00:00:17,520 Speaker 4: have to day figured ice cube is always solid. 9 00:00:17,960 --> 00:00:20,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, but speaking of ice Cube, it's mid twenties right now. 10 00:00:20,640 --> 00:00:23,200 Speaker 1: I just went across the hall at WIBC. All the 11 00:00:23,200 --> 00:00:26,120 Speaker 1: school delays are on their website right now at WIBC 12 00:00:26,239 --> 00:00:28,840 Speaker 1: dot com, and they did tell me two hour delay 13 00:00:28,880 --> 00:00:31,840 Speaker 1: for all IPS schools at this point in time. 14 00:00:32,280 --> 00:00:34,479 Speaker 5: So yeah, we start to win lists. We used to 15 00:00:34,520 --> 00:00:36,320 Speaker 5: have to watch the TV like it was a Super 16 00:00:36,320 --> 00:00:37,639 Speaker 5: Bowl like it was and. 17 00:00:37,640 --> 00:00:39,440 Speaker 2: Wraft wait for the crawl. 18 00:00:39,680 --> 00:00:41,880 Speaker 6: Yeah, it was like watching it for the lottery. Now 19 00:00:41,920 --> 00:00:45,080 Speaker 6: it's all on Twitter, it's all online. These kids don't know. 20 00:00:45,080 --> 00:00:47,760 Speaker 7: Nothing flipping channels. Are they closest to my letter in 21 00:00:47,800 --> 00:00:48,280 Speaker 7: the alphabet? 22 00:00:48,400 --> 00:00:48,600 Speaker 8: I know? 23 00:00:48,760 --> 00:00:48,919 Speaker 3: Man? 24 00:00:49,000 --> 00:00:50,599 Speaker 5: And then if you missed your letter, you're like, oh 25 00:00:50,600 --> 00:00:51,920 Speaker 5: my gosh, do I wait here? 26 00:00:52,040 --> 00:00:53,840 Speaker 6: Does mom? Just trying to see if the school's open? 27 00:00:53,880 --> 00:00:55,800 Speaker 4: You turn it on and you just missed the letter? 28 00:00:56,000 --> 00:00:58,760 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I can wait another fifteen minutes now. 29 00:00:58,720 --> 00:01:00,400 Speaker 7: For those at the end of today morning commute. I 30 00:01:00,400 --> 00:01:02,640 Speaker 7: didn't think it was too too bad by any means. 31 00:01:03,160 --> 00:01:05,680 Speaker 7: Side roads pretty mad, but I thought once you got 32 00:01:05,720 --> 00:01:09,640 Speaker 7: to the main roads just kind of wet. So safe travel, certainly. 33 00:01:09,680 --> 00:01:12,280 Speaker 7: But I think we're all in the general agreement from 34 00:01:12,400 --> 00:01:15,080 Speaker 7: our different areas of town that the morning commute maybe 35 00:01:15,120 --> 00:01:17,399 Speaker 7: a little bit longer, but nothing too strenuous. 36 00:01:17,400 --> 00:01:17,640 Speaker 3: Today. 37 00:01:17,680 --> 00:01:19,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think they've got a lot smarter as time 38 00:01:19,360 --> 00:01:21,120 Speaker 1: has gone on. Back in the old days, when it was, 39 00:01:21,160 --> 00:01:24,520 Speaker 1: you know, just horses and wagons. For me, James, growing 40 00:01:24,600 --> 00:01:27,280 Speaker 1: up in Colorado, we missed. I missed my entire life. 41 00:01:28,040 --> 00:01:30,240 Speaker 1: They sent us home in the middle of the day 42 00:01:30,440 --> 00:01:34,640 Speaker 1: one time in Colorado uphill both ways. No, it was 43 00:01:34,680 --> 00:01:37,280 Speaker 1: just it was snow. You deal with it, put the 44 00:01:37,319 --> 00:01:39,760 Speaker 1: chains on the car and go. It's probably a little 45 00:01:39,800 --> 00:01:42,840 Speaker 1: smarter now with insurance and everything else going on they 46 00:01:42,920 --> 00:01:45,399 Speaker 1: used to have. So these kids, they've got it better today. 47 00:01:45,560 --> 00:01:47,559 Speaker 1: People got smarter as we got older. I think, Kevin, 48 00:01:47,600 --> 00:01:48,280 Speaker 1: there is what happened. 49 00:01:49,560 --> 00:01:51,360 Speaker 6: So did they even have snow days anymore? 50 00:01:51,360 --> 00:01:53,920 Speaker 5: They just do like iMac like is that a thing 51 00:01:54,000 --> 00:01:58,400 Speaker 5: where they just well like so if Jake and Grant 52 00:01:58,800 --> 00:02:00,640 Speaker 5: can't come in for school, they say, Okay, we're going 53 00:02:00,680 --> 00:02:02,080 Speaker 5: to hop on the iPad for the day. I would 54 00:02:02,080 --> 00:02:03,920 Speaker 5: hate that. I kind of liked the ear I grew 55 00:02:04,000 --> 00:02:06,360 Speaker 5: up in where like we didn't have We had some technology, 56 00:02:06,400 --> 00:02:07,200 Speaker 5: but we didn't have. 57 00:02:07,320 --> 00:02:08,760 Speaker 7: And I always feel like e learning for like the 58 00:02:08,760 --> 00:02:10,919 Speaker 7: elementary kids. I mean, what are these dudes just hopping 59 00:02:10,960 --> 00:02:13,240 Speaker 7: on these young kids just hopping on their zooms? 60 00:02:14,080 --> 00:02:16,400 Speaker 5: Learning means that you're going to be e learning as well, right, 61 00:02:18,000 --> 00:02:22,080 Speaker 5: So no child care for you, Kevin Bowen, Yeah. 62 00:02:21,919 --> 00:02:23,720 Speaker 7: I trust me. It seems very difficult. 63 00:02:23,919 --> 00:02:26,720 Speaker 2: So check your specific school and district. 64 00:02:26,760 --> 00:02:28,919 Speaker 1: But a lot of folks in the area are working 65 00:02:28,960 --> 00:02:30,799 Speaker 1: on at least one and a half hour two hour 66 00:02:30,840 --> 00:02:32,320 Speaker 1: delays this morning on. 67 00:02:32,280 --> 00:02:33,440 Speaker 2: Their way to school. 68 00:02:33,520 --> 00:02:35,679 Speaker 1: And like I said, coming in from the north side 69 00:02:35,680 --> 00:02:37,400 Speaker 1: on the highway, a little bit slower, Kevin, But. 70 00:02:37,360 --> 00:02:40,040 Speaker 2: I didn't find it too terrible. Wasn't that bad? 71 00:02:40,120 --> 00:02:40,280 Speaker 3: Yeah? 72 00:02:40,320 --> 00:02:41,360 Speaker 7: A couple extra minutes from here. 73 00:02:41,520 --> 00:02:44,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, and you're you're like right around the corner, James. 74 00:02:44,400 --> 00:02:46,400 Speaker 1: You could probably walk the work as quickly as you 75 00:02:46,480 --> 00:02:47,720 Speaker 1: drive the work, didn't you. 76 00:02:47,760 --> 00:02:50,799 Speaker 5: No, not at all. That would be a very long walk. 77 00:02:51,320 --> 00:02:54,160 Speaker 5: But I enjoy driving and living close enough to drive here. 78 00:02:54,600 --> 00:02:56,960 Speaker 1: All right, that's what's going on on a Tuesday morning. Here, 79 00:02:57,000 --> 00:02:58,799 Speaker 1: it's ninety three five, one oh seven five the fan. 80 00:02:58,880 --> 00:03:02,080 Speaker 1: The Colts coming off a tough loss at home, a 81 00:03:02,160 --> 00:03:05,079 Speaker 1: divisional loss against the Houston Texans. They get ready for 82 00:03:05,160 --> 00:03:08,440 Speaker 1: another divisional game against the Jacksonville Jaguars, and all in 83 00:03:08,520 --> 00:03:11,760 Speaker 1: all for a Monday James, it sounds like pretty good news. 84 00:03:12,160 --> 00:03:14,280 Speaker 1: Sauce Gardner, the guy you just traded two first round 85 00:03:14,320 --> 00:03:16,600 Speaker 1: picks and Ady Mitchell four is not going to be 86 00:03:16,600 --> 00:03:18,360 Speaker 1: lost for the season at this point in time. 87 00:03:18,800 --> 00:03:22,280 Speaker 5: Yeah, so Shane did say he expects him to play 88 00:03:22,880 --> 00:03:26,200 Speaker 5: and be back this season. And then on top of that, 89 00:03:26,320 --> 00:03:28,440 Speaker 5: it was a great question by Kevin to follow up 90 00:03:28,440 --> 00:03:31,360 Speaker 5: and then say, okay, Well is injured reserve of possibility, 91 00:03:31,400 --> 00:03:33,760 Speaker 5: which means an automatic four game absence, and he. 92 00:03:33,800 --> 00:03:35,120 Speaker 6: Definitively said no. 93 00:03:35,280 --> 00:03:37,520 Speaker 5: So they'll put more on the plate of the other guys, 94 00:03:37,960 --> 00:03:39,520 Speaker 5: starting with Shavarius. 95 00:03:39,080 --> 00:03:41,280 Speaker 6: Ward, and then I. 96 00:03:41,240 --> 00:03:46,240 Speaker 5: Would say less heralded players being Jayleen Jones and Makai Blackman. 97 00:03:46,920 --> 00:03:48,760 Speaker 1: How do we feel about the state of the secondary 98 00:03:48,840 --> 00:03:53,080 Speaker 1: right now without Sauce Gardner and a diminished Mooney right now? 99 00:03:53,160 --> 00:03:53,720 Speaker 2: Mooney Ward. 100 00:03:54,120 --> 00:03:58,360 Speaker 7: Yeah, Mark, let's play this audio for Mooney Ward yesterday. 101 00:03:58,440 --> 00:04:00,560 Speaker 7: You know, we talked a little bit about it on 102 00:04:00,800 --> 00:04:03,200 Speaker 7: yesterday's show. I feel like over the last couple of weeks, 103 00:04:03,960 --> 00:04:07,000 Speaker 7: Ward in particularly just a step slow since coming back 104 00:04:08,120 --> 00:04:10,360 Speaker 7: from the concussion. And you know, cornerback to me is 105 00:04:10,360 --> 00:04:13,040 Speaker 7: a position where when you are a step slow, everybody 106 00:04:13,120 --> 00:04:18,200 Speaker 7: sees it. Everybody can see it. And I thought, and 107 00:04:18,279 --> 00:04:20,039 Speaker 7: I guess, just go over everything with money Ward. The 108 00:04:20,040 --> 00:04:25,040 Speaker 7: man has been through just unimaginable, frankly things over the 109 00:04:25,120 --> 00:04:29,479 Speaker 7: last year year plus. Lost his young daughter a year ago. 110 00:04:30,920 --> 00:04:32,680 Speaker 7: You know, we talked a little bit about the concussion 111 00:04:32,680 --> 00:04:36,680 Speaker 7: symptoms that he had last month, was pondering if he 112 00:04:36,680 --> 00:04:39,720 Speaker 7: would play football ever again. So whether you want to 113 00:04:39,760 --> 00:04:43,440 Speaker 7: look at it from the personal tragedy or his professional life, 114 00:04:43,520 --> 00:04:47,160 Speaker 7: he clearly is dealing with a lot. And I think 115 00:04:47,200 --> 00:04:50,760 Speaker 7: he's been pretty candid throughout this past year about how 116 00:04:50,760 --> 00:04:54,920 Speaker 7: that stuff has clearly impacted him, and he mentioned yesterday 117 00:04:54,960 --> 00:04:56,880 Speaker 7: it's impacting his play right now on the field. 118 00:04:57,960 --> 00:05:00,080 Speaker 9: I just just got to get my mind right in 119 00:05:00,160 --> 00:05:02,760 Speaker 9: my heart right, you know. Once, you know, once I 120 00:05:02,800 --> 00:05:05,760 Speaker 9: get my mind right, my heart right, I think my 121 00:05:05,839 --> 00:05:10,360 Speaker 9: physical physical body and the way I perform, that'll be good. 122 00:05:10,400 --> 00:05:13,400 Speaker 9: But like I said, as long as my mind cloudy, 123 00:05:13,520 --> 00:05:15,720 Speaker 9: I don't really play good all the time. So I'm 124 00:05:15,720 --> 00:05:18,280 Speaker 9: just trying to, you know, focus in like and then 125 00:05:19,160 --> 00:05:22,640 Speaker 9: get you know, get get focused. And I think I 126 00:05:22,720 --> 00:05:23,520 Speaker 9: started playing better. 127 00:05:26,240 --> 00:05:27,080 Speaker 6: Definitely feel for him. 128 00:05:27,160 --> 00:05:29,760 Speaker 5: That was in response to when I asked him what 129 00:05:29,839 --> 00:05:31,920 Speaker 5: areas of your game do you think you need to improve? 130 00:05:32,120 --> 00:05:34,800 Speaker 7: Because he said he wasn't playing to a standard previous exactly. 131 00:05:35,000 --> 00:05:39,320 Speaker 5: And again this was not me thinking, oh, he'll take 132 00:05:39,400 --> 00:05:44,120 Speaker 5: this on a more personal journey route. It was in 133 00:05:44,200 --> 00:05:47,760 Speaker 5: my mind, I don't know something about technique or film 134 00:05:47,800 --> 00:05:49,880 Speaker 5: study or being a little quicker with your hands whatever, 135 00:05:50,480 --> 00:05:51,960 Speaker 5: And he really kind of opened up his heart a 136 00:05:52,000 --> 00:05:55,880 Speaker 5: little bit and vented about, well indirectly about some of 137 00:05:55,880 --> 00:05:58,680 Speaker 5: the things he's been through. So I do feel for him, 138 00:05:58,680 --> 00:06:02,440 Speaker 5: and I do wonder how much of that weighs on 139 00:06:02,600 --> 00:06:05,520 Speaker 5: him just all of a sudden, he's been through clearly, 140 00:06:06,040 --> 00:06:09,520 Speaker 5: and I'm not going to sit here and say, you know, 141 00:06:09,680 --> 00:06:11,400 Speaker 5: it's time for you to move on or it's time, 142 00:06:11,400 --> 00:06:14,200 Speaker 5: but it is a point where I think professionally the 143 00:06:14,240 --> 00:06:17,920 Speaker 5: colts have to ask themselves, can't he get back to 144 00:06:17,920 --> 00:06:19,720 Speaker 5: that level and how can we help him do that? 145 00:06:19,920 --> 00:06:22,400 Speaker 5: And I just wonder what that process looks like when 146 00:06:22,440 --> 00:06:24,640 Speaker 5: he mentioned this more mental than physical. 147 00:06:24,839 --> 00:06:26,880 Speaker 7: Yeah, And if you look at the rest of the season, 148 00:06:26,960 --> 00:06:30,880 Speaker 7: James five weeks to go against Sauce Gardner, the expectation 149 00:06:30,960 --> 00:06:32,680 Speaker 7: based off a change I can said yesterday's he will 150 00:06:32,720 --> 00:06:35,880 Speaker 7: return sometime the next four weeks. If you look at 151 00:06:35,880 --> 00:06:39,960 Speaker 7: the schedule at Jacksonville at Seattle home to the forty 152 00:06:40,040 --> 00:06:42,560 Speaker 7: nine ers, those are the next three games. You know, 153 00:06:42,640 --> 00:06:44,640 Speaker 7: Kenny Moore early in the year deal with the CAF injury, 154 00:06:44,680 --> 00:06:47,240 Speaker 7: missed three games. Okay, let's say Sauce misses those three, 155 00:06:48,800 --> 00:06:50,960 Speaker 7: that means he'd be back for Jacksonville Houston in the year. 156 00:06:51,400 --> 00:06:54,480 Speaker 7: Which you know, again, if you're ranking these games, they're 157 00:06:54,480 --> 00:07:00,440 Speaker 7: all important, but those two could be absolutely vital. Now, 158 00:07:00,560 --> 00:07:02,839 Speaker 7: of course, you got to position yourself to be in 159 00:07:02,880 --> 00:07:05,719 Speaker 7: a decent spot come week seventeen. But you know, if 160 00:07:05,760 --> 00:07:08,960 Speaker 7: you're gonna rank these games, the NFC games would be 161 00:07:09,040 --> 00:07:12,520 Speaker 7: four and five on that list of just general importance. Again, 162 00:07:12,840 --> 00:07:15,840 Speaker 7: right now, without crowd of the AFC is AFC South is, 163 00:07:15,960 --> 00:07:18,440 Speaker 7: everything is important. But if you're going to rank them, 164 00:07:19,280 --> 00:07:21,760 Speaker 7: if Sauce is going to miss games, those would be 165 00:07:21,840 --> 00:07:25,760 Speaker 7: the games, okay whatever, if you're gonna lose any those 166 00:07:25,800 --> 00:07:27,400 Speaker 7: would be the ones that you would want to lose there. 167 00:07:27,440 --> 00:07:30,320 Speaker 7: But yeah, I just I really feel for Mooney war 168 00:07:30,360 --> 00:07:33,080 Speaker 7: and I think it is clearly impacting his play on 169 00:07:33,160 --> 00:07:35,440 Speaker 7: the field. I would like to see Kenny Moore and a 170 00:07:35,440 --> 00:07:37,880 Speaker 7: little bit more, just like of their base personnel, it 171 00:07:37,880 --> 00:07:40,720 Speaker 7: seems like when they have it seems like Mikaile Blackman's 172 00:07:40,760 --> 00:07:44,880 Speaker 7: on the field too much, I guess to summarize it succinctly, 173 00:07:45,080 --> 00:07:49,400 Speaker 7: in my opinion, they continue to outsnap Jaalen Jones with 174 00:07:49,440 --> 00:07:51,520 Speaker 7: those reps. I'd like see Kenny frankly just be that 175 00:07:51,560 --> 00:07:54,800 Speaker 7: outside corner with Sauce out the next couple of weeks. 176 00:07:54,840 --> 00:07:57,320 Speaker 7: But you know, the Jags are really banged up at 177 00:07:57,320 --> 00:07:59,960 Speaker 7: wide out, so you know that's a little bit promising. 178 00:08:00,040 --> 00:08:02,640 Speaker 7: But the week after that, Jaxon Smith and Jigbo has 179 00:08:02,640 --> 00:08:04,240 Speaker 7: been the best receiver in the league this season, So 180 00:08:04,680 --> 00:08:06,400 Speaker 7: there you go that and. 181 00:08:06,320 --> 00:08:08,720 Speaker 1: He's been roasted everybody like no one has been immune 182 00:08:08,760 --> 00:08:10,480 Speaker 1: to what that guy has been doing. And you make 183 00:08:10,520 --> 00:08:13,760 Speaker 1: a great point, James, you always want a guy to 184 00:08:15,320 --> 00:08:18,040 Speaker 1: be able to get room to heal whatever is going 185 00:08:18,080 --> 00:08:20,840 Speaker 1: on with him physically, mentally, emotionally. 186 00:08:20,400 --> 00:08:22,840 Speaker 2: Whatever it is. You're on his side. 187 00:08:22,920 --> 00:08:24,760 Speaker 1: You want him to get better, But there is a 188 00:08:24,800 --> 00:08:26,760 Speaker 1: point where a team has to say, hey, we're gonna 189 00:08:26,760 --> 00:08:29,280 Speaker 1: help you get better. But right now, what's better for 190 00:08:29,320 --> 00:08:30,920 Speaker 1: the Colts is maybe we need to do something a 191 00:08:30,920 --> 00:08:33,240 Speaker 1: little bit different while you're on that healing journey. 192 00:08:33,600 --> 00:08:35,000 Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm just curious about that. 193 00:08:35,440 --> 00:08:37,520 Speaker 5: You know, can you get back to the love you're 194 00:08:37,559 --> 00:08:40,480 Speaker 5: supposed to if your mind and heart aren't one hundred 195 00:08:40,480 --> 00:08:40,960 Speaker 5: percent in it? 196 00:08:41,280 --> 00:08:42,720 Speaker 6: And I'm not questioning the love of the game. 197 00:08:42,800 --> 00:08:44,960 Speaker 5: I mean clearly if you look at the guy's story 198 00:08:45,080 --> 00:08:48,640 Speaker 5: comes from nothing undrafted Jue Corau all the above to 199 00:08:49,320 --> 00:08:52,640 Speaker 5: getting not one but two pretty hefty deals in the NFL, 200 00:08:52,720 --> 00:08:56,000 Speaker 5: being a second team All Pro, most pass defenses in 201 00:08:56,040 --> 00:08:57,880 Speaker 5: a single season. I think of forty nine is history 202 00:08:57,920 --> 00:09:02,199 Speaker 5: all the above. But yeah, how do you again? I 203 00:09:02,200 --> 00:09:04,040 Speaker 5: don't want to say get passed that because you can't 204 00:09:04,040 --> 00:09:06,640 Speaker 5: get past losing a kid or lose anybody you love, 205 00:09:06,760 --> 00:09:09,840 Speaker 5: But how do you try to find the best version 206 00:09:09,880 --> 00:09:13,400 Speaker 5: of yourself in this? I guess new normal for yourself 207 00:09:13,480 --> 00:09:17,440 Speaker 5: or new state of your life where there is going 208 00:09:17,480 --> 00:09:19,720 Speaker 5: to be some tragedy in the hard days, So again 209 00:09:19,760 --> 00:09:21,679 Speaker 5: I feel for him. Definitely don't want to speak out 210 00:09:21,679 --> 00:09:23,200 Speaker 5: of turn when it comes to what he's going through, 211 00:09:23,240 --> 00:09:25,160 Speaker 5: but I appreciate the candor as well. 212 00:09:25,280 --> 00:09:26,439 Speaker 6: I mean, this is a guy who. 213 00:09:27,080 --> 00:09:29,360 Speaker 5: He definitely when he gets in front of Mike, there's 214 00:09:29,400 --> 00:09:33,080 Speaker 5: probably some things that I don't know if I wear 215 00:09:33,120 --> 00:09:35,240 Speaker 5: his shoes, maybe I don't say, or I don't share. 216 00:09:35,440 --> 00:09:37,880 Speaker 6: But he's as real as they come, and I can 217 00:09:37,920 --> 00:09:38,600 Speaker 6: always respect that. 218 00:09:39,480 --> 00:09:41,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, we just all wish the best for him, and 219 00:09:42,120 --> 00:09:44,319 Speaker 1: I hope that he continues to get through whatever he's 220 00:09:44,320 --> 00:09:46,480 Speaker 1: going through. Because two of the three of us here 221 00:09:46,520 --> 00:09:50,080 Speaker 1: are dads. I can't even fathom what that must be 222 00:09:50,240 --> 00:09:53,559 Speaker 1: like Kevin, and you just hope the best for him 223 00:09:53,559 --> 00:09:55,960 Speaker 1: and his family and everything else. But on the other side, 224 00:09:56,040 --> 00:09:59,360 Speaker 1: there is a point for the cults where they need 225 00:09:59,400 --> 00:10:01,080 Speaker 1: what they need as a football team. 226 00:10:01,160 --> 00:10:05,360 Speaker 7: How about Alec Pearce well hail Mary bat down on 227 00:10:05,400 --> 00:10:06,440 Speaker 7: Sunday Show. 228 00:10:06,120 --> 00:10:07,720 Speaker 5: To Cam buying him too for saying that he would 229 00:10:07,720 --> 00:10:09,360 Speaker 5: have picked it because he was like, could you imagine 230 00:10:09,400 --> 00:10:11,600 Speaker 5: if he was like, you're taught to bat it down? 231 00:10:11,720 --> 00:10:14,400 Speaker 5: And Alix Piers did when he was taught, but he 232 00:10:14,480 --> 00:10:16,760 Speaker 5: was like, could you imagine catching a touchdown pass in 233 00:10:16,840 --> 00:10:18,960 Speaker 5: a game and then catching a pick in the same game, 234 00:10:18,960 --> 00:10:20,040 Speaker 5: and you're not high school anymore. 235 00:10:20,080 --> 00:10:21,920 Speaker 7: I mean when that ball was thrown, I mean he 236 00:10:22,760 --> 00:10:26,640 Speaker 7: obvious pierce fashion, he literally positioned himself perfectly. Yeah, to 237 00:10:26,800 --> 00:10:28,199 Speaker 7: be the first one to touch it. I thought to myself, 238 00:10:28,240 --> 00:10:30,560 Speaker 7: if he picks us off, we might have an interesting 239 00:10:30,600 --> 00:10:32,640 Speaker 7: little fifty yard run back and see how long he 240 00:10:32,640 --> 00:10:36,319 Speaker 7: can make this happen here. But Alec Peerce, ever, the smart, 241 00:10:36,320 --> 00:10:38,560 Speaker 7: the former defender at Cincinnati. 242 00:10:38,480 --> 00:10:40,120 Speaker 6: That's his problem. He's not selfish enough. 243 00:10:40,240 --> 00:10:43,400 Speaker 7: Maybe he should play Maybe he should play corner right now. 244 00:10:43,600 --> 00:10:45,040 Speaker 2: Maybe you should have a little talk with him when 245 00:10:45,080 --> 00:10:46,000 Speaker 2: you meet the guy. 246 00:10:46,240 --> 00:10:49,240 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, shout out to Alex Pearce, who's actually from 247 00:10:49,640 --> 00:10:51,080 Speaker 5: near where I grew up, so I know him in 248 00:10:51,080 --> 00:10:51,960 Speaker 5: the family pretty well. 249 00:10:52,120 --> 00:10:52,280 Speaker 3: Man. 250 00:10:52,320 --> 00:10:54,600 Speaker 1: He's turning into a terrific wide receiver. It's been a 251 00:10:54,600 --> 00:10:56,679 Speaker 1: lot of fun to watch. He saw last night Patriots 252 00:10:56,679 --> 00:10:58,400 Speaker 1: got to win over the New York Giants in a 253 00:10:58,440 --> 00:11:00,559 Speaker 1: game that wasn't even nearly as close as the score 254 00:11:00,640 --> 00:11:04,360 Speaker 1: might indicate. Drake may look fantastic. The Patriots are sitting 255 00:11:04,360 --> 00:11:06,679 Speaker 1: there at eleven and two on top of the AFC. 256 00:11:06,920 --> 00:11:09,599 Speaker 1: Denver keeps winning games somehow, some way, by hook er, 257 00:11:09,640 --> 00:11:12,400 Speaker 1: by crook. They're ten and two, and then after that 258 00:11:12,480 --> 00:11:16,480 Speaker 1: it's Jacksonville eight and four. They will put the Ravens 259 00:11:16,480 --> 00:11:18,480 Speaker 1: in the fourth spot right now because they're leading their 260 00:11:18,480 --> 00:11:21,079 Speaker 1: division at just six and six, and then after that 261 00:11:21,320 --> 00:11:23,440 Speaker 1: the Chargers are eight and four and the Cults are 262 00:11:23,440 --> 00:11:26,319 Speaker 1: eight and four, So two are the Bills eight and four. 263 00:11:26,360 --> 00:11:28,839 Speaker 1: And now with that win, Houston is seven to five, 264 00:11:28,960 --> 00:11:31,640 Speaker 1: just a game behind Indianapolis and losing three of these 265 00:11:31,720 --> 00:11:34,160 Speaker 1: last four, they they've kind of lost that cushion they 266 00:11:34,240 --> 00:11:36,440 Speaker 1: built up the first ten weeks of the season. 267 00:11:36,520 --> 00:11:39,000 Speaker 7: Kevin, Yeah, there's no kind of about it. They have 268 00:11:39,080 --> 00:11:41,679 Speaker 7: lost it. So yeah, right now they are in the wildcard. 269 00:11:41,920 --> 00:11:45,480 Speaker 7: They have the sixth seed. Huge week, not only obviously Colts, Jaggs. 270 00:11:46,160 --> 00:11:49,199 Speaker 7: You mentioned Steelers and the Ravens right there. They are 271 00:11:49,280 --> 00:11:52,480 Speaker 7: tied atop the AFC North, So that is a big, 272 00:11:52,640 --> 00:11:56,720 Speaker 7: big game speaking from an AFC standpoint, and also Texans 273 00:11:56,760 --> 00:11:59,640 Speaker 7: Chiefs Sunday night football right there. So yeah, we mentioned 274 00:11:59,640 --> 00:12:02,040 Speaker 7: it a little yesterday. I know people want just get 275 00:12:02,120 --> 00:12:04,640 Speaker 7: Kansas City out of there. Colts can't be greedy. They 276 00:12:04,679 --> 00:12:07,520 Speaker 7: need to root for the Chiefs on Sunday Night football 277 00:12:07,600 --> 00:12:11,280 Speaker 7: to beat Houston. So I will continue to keep an 278 00:12:11,280 --> 00:12:14,400 Speaker 7: eye on that. And again, any kicker movement today, any 279 00:12:14,440 --> 00:12:18,400 Speaker 7: kicker truts. Look, every option has warts when you're dealing 280 00:12:18,400 --> 00:12:21,120 Speaker 7: with a backup kicker. The problem for me with Michael 281 00:12:21,120 --> 00:12:23,480 Speaker 7: Basi right now is he has got warts in two areas, 282 00:12:23,880 --> 00:12:28,040 Speaker 7: three point shooting and layups. You can't have warts in both, 283 00:12:28,679 --> 00:12:31,400 Speaker 7: So who cares if you can't kick from fifty plus 284 00:12:31,440 --> 00:12:33,360 Speaker 7: your r It's fine. He's got to make the layups 285 00:12:34,000 --> 00:12:36,240 Speaker 7: and right now, those are the issues that you have. 286 00:12:36,320 --> 00:12:38,160 Speaker 7: So can you try and just band aid that? Can 287 00:12:38,200 --> 00:12:40,520 Speaker 7: you try and find somebody that at least can give 288 00:12:40,520 --> 00:12:44,240 Speaker 7: you steadiness from a layup standpoint. We'll see how active 289 00:12:44,240 --> 00:12:47,080 Speaker 7: the Colts are with kicker tryouts today and what the 290 00:12:47,120 --> 00:12:48,000 Speaker 7: rest of the week looks like. 291 00:12:48,240 --> 00:12:50,640 Speaker 2: Man off for the extra point is Michael Bagsley. 292 00:12:51,200 --> 00:12:54,679 Speaker 7: It's the loudest sound in sports, and I feel like 293 00:12:54,760 --> 00:12:57,240 Speaker 7: it's only happened in the last four years that all 294 00:12:57,280 --> 00:13:00,320 Speaker 7: of a sudden so loud. I think it's start with 295 00:13:00,320 --> 00:13:00,839 Speaker 7: what's his name? 296 00:13:00,920 --> 00:13:01,040 Speaker 3: Was it? 297 00:13:01,120 --> 00:13:02,559 Speaker 7: Parky Double? 298 00:13:03,520 --> 00:13:04,720 Speaker 4: How could I forget. 299 00:13:04,640 --> 00:13:07,080 Speaker 2: I was gonna say that was right in your wheelhouse there, hunk. 300 00:13:07,160 --> 00:13:11,040 Speaker 4: Yep, Matt and Naggie looking like a buffoon on the sidelines. 301 00:13:11,080 --> 00:13:13,599 Speaker 6: What just happened? Your kicker stinks and we knew that 302 00:13:13,600 --> 00:13:14,280 Speaker 6: all year, By the way. 303 00:13:14,280 --> 00:13:17,640 Speaker 7: Shout out to Daniel Jones's college roommate. I heard them 304 00:13:17,679 --> 00:13:22,320 Speaker 7: say in the telecast that his roommate from Duke made 305 00:13:22,520 --> 00:13:26,559 Speaker 7: the pad that he wore around his injured fibula, and 306 00:13:26,960 --> 00:13:30,680 Speaker 7: earlier in his career he had developed some sort of 307 00:13:30,840 --> 00:13:33,840 Speaker 7: medical device that he used for a I think it 308 00:13:33,880 --> 00:13:36,640 Speaker 7: was a calf injury earlier in his career. Can you imagine, 309 00:13:36,679 --> 00:13:37,920 Speaker 7: like those are your college roommates? 310 00:13:38,000 --> 00:13:40,040 Speaker 4: Well, I liked how I was like, JJ watt, what 311 00:13:40,080 --> 00:13:41,880 Speaker 4: are your roommates? So he's like probably drinking beer and 312 00:13:41,960 --> 00:13:42,559 Speaker 4: being stupid. 313 00:13:42,600 --> 00:13:46,280 Speaker 7: I mean, my college room got thirty seven parking tickets 314 00:13:46,320 --> 00:13:48,880 Speaker 7: in a month span. I mean, like that's the most 315 00:13:48,880 --> 00:13:49,720 Speaker 7: thing he's proud of. 316 00:13:50,080 --> 00:13:50,280 Speaker 3: Now. 317 00:13:50,320 --> 00:13:54,400 Speaker 5: My cause roommate is living out in California, justice side 318 00:13:54,400 --> 00:13:55,600 Speaker 5: of LA and just bought a house. 319 00:13:56,000 --> 00:13:58,000 Speaker 6: So he's doing fairly well for himself. 320 00:13:58,040 --> 00:14:03,000 Speaker 7: Well maybe, yeah, I guess that's due education for you. 321 00:14:03,120 --> 00:14:03,440 Speaker 6: Yeah. 322 00:14:03,520 --> 00:14:03,679 Speaker 3: Yeah. 323 00:14:03,760 --> 00:14:05,720 Speaker 5: A shout out to my college room is a mechanical 324 00:14:05,800 --> 00:14:09,080 Speaker 5: engineer and he is living the life. But yeah, I 325 00:14:09,120 --> 00:14:12,040 Speaker 5: did see that video and it looks like the pad 326 00:14:12,120 --> 00:14:14,800 Speaker 5: is on his left leg and it was three D printed, 327 00:14:14,840 --> 00:14:19,160 Speaker 5: if I'm not mistaken, And so, yeah, smart roommates, and 328 00:14:19,440 --> 00:14:21,240 Speaker 5: I actually want to ask him about it, like, you know, 329 00:14:21,520 --> 00:14:24,760 Speaker 5: is this something where you really trust your you have 330 00:14:24,880 --> 00:14:27,600 Speaker 5: to really trust your college roommates with something like that, 331 00:14:27,720 --> 00:14:28,600 Speaker 5: Like how legit is his. 332 00:14:28,560 --> 00:14:32,480 Speaker 7: Business just going to team Yeah, I'm good, guys, I've 333 00:14:32,480 --> 00:14:33,440 Speaker 7: got my college. 334 00:14:34,160 --> 00:14:35,800 Speaker 5: He probably won't get into it, but I'm very curious 335 00:14:35,840 --> 00:14:38,720 Speaker 5: about how that whole process goes, because this isn't just oh, 336 00:14:38,760 --> 00:14:40,520 Speaker 5: my friend gave me a hat to wear and promote, 337 00:14:40,600 --> 00:14:43,040 Speaker 5: like this is legit. I need this to go out 338 00:14:43,040 --> 00:14:44,280 Speaker 5: there and perform at the highest level. 339 00:14:44,520 --> 00:14:47,120 Speaker 7: Buddy's got a printing T shirt business. 340 00:14:46,440 --> 00:14:52,440 Speaker 5: Remember here, who was the running back who got the 341 00:14:52,480 --> 00:14:55,080 Speaker 5: big hat started? And he wore the big hat after 342 00:14:55,080 --> 00:14:57,360 Speaker 5: the game I forgot and it became like a big hat. 343 00:14:57,880 --> 00:14:59,360 Speaker 5: I don't know, but it became like a thing for 344 00:14:59,360 --> 00:15:00,920 Speaker 5: a little while. And he's like, oh, yeah, my friend 345 00:15:00,960 --> 00:15:03,560 Speaker 5: made this company and it's big hats and it took off. 346 00:15:03,840 --> 00:15:05,800 Speaker 5: This is not that this is I need you to 347 00:15:05,800 --> 00:15:08,560 Speaker 5: make sure my leg holds up throughout the most crucial 348 00:15:08,600 --> 00:15:10,360 Speaker 5: point of my career in a very violent game. 349 00:15:10,400 --> 00:15:12,160 Speaker 7: We need Lane Kiffin rock in the big hat at 350 00:15:12,160 --> 00:15:14,640 Speaker 7: as LSU introductory pressor, did you see the left is 351 00:15:14,760 --> 00:15:17,760 Speaker 7: closed just like outside? 352 00:15:18,920 --> 00:15:24,120 Speaker 6: Husband? I love that his war sec. 353 00:15:24,440 --> 00:15:24,960 Speaker 7: I love it. 354 00:15:25,120 --> 00:15:27,680 Speaker 5: He said that ole miss fans, we're trying to run 355 00:15:27,760 --> 00:15:30,000 Speaker 5: him off the road on the way to the airport, 356 00:15:30,120 --> 00:15:31,920 Speaker 5: and he said, I understand it. 357 00:15:31,920 --> 00:15:34,320 Speaker 6: It's the passion of the SEC. I was gonna say 358 00:15:34,320 --> 00:15:35,040 Speaker 6: that is nuts. 359 00:15:35,080 --> 00:15:35,760 Speaker 2: I believe him. 360 00:15:35,840 --> 00:15:36,120 Speaker 3: Boy. 361 00:15:36,280 --> 00:15:38,320 Speaker 1: The other part different down there, man. The other part 362 00:15:38,320 --> 00:15:40,000 Speaker 1: of that is, he also says, but then I get here, 363 00:15:40,480 --> 00:15:43,400 Speaker 1: l s U. It's been so warm and everybody can't 364 00:15:43,400 --> 00:15:46,600 Speaker 1: wait to see it and congratulates. I'm thinking, yeah, go 365 00:15:46,680 --> 00:15:49,280 Speaker 1: on a three game losing streak at Streetport and find 366 00:15:49,280 --> 00:15:50,160 Speaker 1: out how that works out. 367 00:15:50,760 --> 00:15:52,120 Speaker 6: Kelly, how things are going right now? 368 00:15:54,120 --> 00:15:58,280 Speaker 2: I'm sorry, Yeah, they baton rouge. That whole area shreeport 369 00:15:58,360 --> 00:15:59,120 Speaker 2: baton rouge. 370 00:15:59,440 --> 00:15:59,760 Speaker 8: Uh. 371 00:16:00,440 --> 00:16:02,880 Speaker 2: They'll turn on you so fast. 372 00:16:03,040 --> 00:16:04,640 Speaker 6: So Kevin, I don't know. 373 00:16:04,760 --> 00:16:06,400 Speaker 5: I'm on a tangent here, but you are like my 374 00:16:06,520 --> 00:16:10,680 Speaker 5: resident college football watcher, expert type of guy. 375 00:16:10,800 --> 00:16:14,760 Speaker 7: I love college football can you explain, I. 376 00:16:14,680 --> 00:16:19,800 Speaker 5: Guess, briefly, if that's even possible, what the heck happened 377 00:16:19,800 --> 00:16:22,600 Speaker 5: with that? Because I'm so confused. He wanted to coach 378 00:16:22,640 --> 00:16:24,640 Speaker 5: Ole Miss. There's no way you should be able to 379 00:16:24,720 --> 00:16:27,720 Speaker 5: do that if you take another job. But also it's 380 00:16:27,840 --> 00:16:30,440 Speaker 5: unprecedented because you had a chance to win a national championship, 381 00:16:30,480 --> 00:16:33,160 Speaker 5: best program season they've had in a long time, and 382 00:16:33,400 --> 00:16:36,320 Speaker 5: you leave, But you would have got paid the same 383 00:16:36,360 --> 00:16:38,440 Speaker 5: amount of money, but LSU has more resources. 384 00:16:38,520 --> 00:16:42,040 Speaker 6: So I'm just like, Okay, I understand that you made 385 00:16:42,080 --> 00:16:43,600 Speaker 6: the move, but it's just weird. 386 00:16:43,600 --> 00:16:45,520 Speaker 5: I feel like there's so many tentacles, and every time 387 00:16:45,520 --> 00:16:47,200 Speaker 5: I read something, I'm more confused than before. 388 00:16:47,560 --> 00:16:49,520 Speaker 7: By the way, it's a great College of Basketball slate tonight, 389 00:16:49,600 --> 00:16:51,320 Speaker 7: not just locally here if you're looking for something to 390 00:16:51,360 --> 00:16:52,040 Speaker 7: watch on Tuesdays. 391 00:16:52,040 --> 00:16:52,440 Speaker 2: It's true. 392 00:16:52,520 --> 00:16:54,480 Speaker 7: Basically, what I've gathered about the Kevin story is so 393 00:16:54,480 --> 00:16:56,560 Speaker 7: Florida and ls you both wanted them really really bad. 394 00:16:56,800 --> 00:16:57,040 Speaker 3: Right. 395 00:16:57,160 --> 00:17:00,880 Speaker 7: Florida was more hesitant about letting the the Lane Kiff 396 00:17:00,920 --> 00:17:04,040 Speaker 7: and operation be run in their backyard. There's a lot 397 00:17:04,080 --> 00:17:06,040 Speaker 7: that goes with Lane and a lot of it maybe 398 00:17:06,119 --> 00:17:07,480 Speaker 7: might be a little bit questionable. 399 00:17:07,520 --> 00:17:09,520 Speaker 5: So did we kind of get like not bannised, but 400 00:17:09,640 --> 00:17:11,760 Speaker 5: he was like not the hot ticket? Do they go 401 00:17:11,800 --> 00:17:12,640 Speaker 5: to Florida Atlantic? 402 00:17:12,920 --> 00:17:15,240 Speaker 7: Well, yeah, I mean hel Nick Saban fired him on 403 00:17:15,280 --> 00:17:19,040 Speaker 7: the tarmac and and you know he's got the Tennessee drama, 404 00:17:19,080 --> 00:17:21,359 Speaker 7: the USC drama. So yeah, there's a lot with Lane. 405 00:17:21,440 --> 00:17:24,280 Speaker 7: I you know, I need a book on this. So 406 00:17:24,400 --> 00:17:26,600 Speaker 7: basically I think he views LSU is a little bit 407 00:17:26,600 --> 00:17:29,000 Speaker 7: more of a it's really hard to screw up. But again, 408 00:17:29,000 --> 00:17:30,680 Speaker 7: Brian Kelly is one of the few that screwed it up. 409 00:17:31,040 --> 00:17:32,440 Speaker 7: You know, when you look at it from a head 410 00:17:32,440 --> 00:17:37,680 Speaker 7: coach standpoint, what Les Miles at Ordron and who else 411 00:17:37,720 --> 00:17:40,200 Speaker 7: wanted to Yeah, I mean you know all of it. 412 00:17:40,560 --> 00:17:42,680 Speaker 7: You know, all those coaches seemingly just followed a bet 413 00:17:42,720 --> 00:17:43,400 Speaker 7: and you win there. 414 00:17:44,280 --> 00:17:46,800 Speaker 1: But also the only one that didn't get fired eventually 415 00:17:46,840 --> 00:17:49,080 Speaker 1: was Saban, who moved on to Alabama. The other two 416 00:17:49,080 --> 00:17:51,880 Speaker 1: guys that won national championships were fired not too long 417 00:17:51,920 --> 00:17:53,040 Speaker 1: after they won those Nationally. 418 00:17:53,080 --> 00:17:55,400 Speaker 7: I think the old Miss nerves comes back to like, 419 00:17:55,600 --> 00:17:59,040 Speaker 7: if we get back to being old Miss and you 420 00:17:59,080 --> 00:18:02,480 Speaker 7: start to have what ever seven to win eight win seasons, 421 00:18:03,119 --> 00:18:06,040 Speaker 7: will they treat you like seemingly every other SEC program 422 00:18:06,080 --> 00:18:08,879 Speaker 7: treats you that seven to eight wins is not good enough. 423 00:18:09,119 --> 00:18:14,040 Speaker 7: And I think Lane is also somebody that craves a challenge, 424 00:18:14,240 --> 00:18:18,240 Speaker 7: and craves you know, wanting challenge to me is the 425 00:18:18,320 --> 00:18:19,720 Speaker 7: right word. But once a new opportunity. 426 00:18:19,760 --> 00:18:22,280 Speaker 6: He's only fifty when it comes to coaching. 427 00:18:22,320 --> 00:18:23,400 Speaker 7: Holly did the NFL thing. 428 00:18:23,520 --> 00:18:26,399 Speaker 4: When it comes to coaching exits, Lane Kiffin is on 429 00:18:26,400 --> 00:18:28,880 Speaker 4: the Mount Rushmore. He's all four heads because he's got 430 00:18:29,359 --> 00:18:32,040 Speaker 4: Al Davis given a PowerPoint as to why he's fired 431 00:18:32,080 --> 00:18:35,639 Speaker 4: in the NFL and escaping to Old the LSU and 432 00:18:35,680 --> 00:18:36,480 Speaker 4: all that it is. 433 00:18:36,880 --> 00:18:40,360 Speaker 7: I mean story I read the story yesterday is from 434 00:18:40,359 --> 00:18:43,879 Speaker 7: CBS Sports about the Kiffin exit from Old Miss, and 435 00:18:43,880 --> 00:18:46,440 Speaker 7: in there they were describing the scene at the airport 436 00:18:46,960 --> 00:18:49,400 Speaker 7: of the Old Miss fans going the one finger salute 437 00:18:50,000 --> 00:18:52,600 Speaker 7: towards Coach Kiffin as he boarded the plane. And I 438 00:18:52,600 --> 00:18:55,119 Speaker 7: guess Charlie Weiss's son, I didn't realize Charlie Weiss's son 439 00:18:55,240 --> 00:18:58,000 Speaker 7: was the offensive coordinator there. Charlie Weis junior is also 440 00:18:58,000 --> 00:19:01,960 Speaker 7: heading to LSU. Great writing detail here, James, you can 441 00:19:02,000 --> 00:19:05,159 Speaker 7: appreciate this. Boots on the ground journalism. It was mostly 442 00:19:05,240 --> 00:19:08,560 Speaker 7: college age young men decked out in new balances, but 443 00:19:08,640 --> 00:19:12,879 Speaker 7: there were also multiple children, including one infant wrapped in 444 00:19:12,920 --> 00:19:16,840 Speaker 7: a blanket and sucking on a pacifier. It's never too early, 445 00:19:16,920 --> 00:19:18,360 Speaker 7: after all, to teach. 446 00:19:18,160 --> 00:19:20,800 Speaker 6: Hate WHOA what a bar? 447 00:19:21,720 --> 00:19:24,720 Speaker 7: Well you if I told Maddie A, I'm heading to 448 00:19:24,800 --> 00:19:27,159 Speaker 7: the local airport with Nelly. We need to get out 449 00:19:27,200 --> 00:19:28,120 Speaker 7: of the house into. 450 00:19:27,920 --> 00:19:29,800 Speaker 6: The regional airport. Gotta flip this guy off. 451 00:19:29,840 --> 00:19:31,560 Speaker 2: I've got outside. 452 00:19:31,560 --> 00:19:33,199 Speaker 7: When you get I got a middle finger to get 453 00:19:33,280 --> 00:19:33,760 Speaker 7: up in the air. 454 00:19:34,080 --> 00:19:34,639 Speaker 6: That's crazy. 455 00:19:34,840 --> 00:19:35,280 Speaker 7: I love it. 456 00:19:35,600 --> 00:19:37,880 Speaker 5: The only thing I will not necessarily well, I guess 457 00:19:37,880 --> 00:19:39,800 Speaker 5: the defend laying on is when people tell me, oh, well, 458 00:19:39,840 --> 00:19:40,879 Speaker 5: like he's in it for the money. 459 00:19:41,200 --> 00:19:43,919 Speaker 6: We all are. I'm gonna I'm gonna be very honest here. 460 00:19:43,960 --> 00:19:46,160 Speaker 7: What you get in the money, if you would would 461 00:19:46,200 --> 00:19:47,880 Speaker 7: have been the same, if you're the old mess side of. 462 00:19:47,800 --> 00:19:49,520 Speaker 6: That, right, it would have been the same, right, right. 463 00:19:49,560 --> 00:19:51,960 Speaker 5: But for those saying like oh, even if they didn't 464 00:19:51,960 --> 00:19:55,880 Speaker 5: give them the money, then then you're a liar. If 465 00:19:55,920 --> 00:19:57,320 Speaker 5: if anybody comes to you and say, hey, you can 466 00:19:57,320 --> 00:20:00,199 Speaker 5: do the exact same job in a different state for 467 00:20:00,520 --> 00:20:04,040 Speaker 5: six million dollars more you're leaving now. Again, A lot 468 00:20:04,080 --> 00:20:05,359 Speaker 5: of that has to do with the money would have 469 00:20:05,400 --> 00:20:07,159 Speaker 5: been matched, but the resources I think at LSU are 470 00:20:07,160 --> 00:20:07,600 Speaker 5: probably better. 471 00:20:07,680 --> 00:20:10,960 Speaker 7: Can we all get on board of this opening night 472 00:20:10,960 --> 00:20:12,040 Speaker 7: of college football next year? 473 00:20:12,119 --> 00:20:12,399 Speaker 6: Yes? 474 00:20:12,800 --> 00:20:16,440 Speaker 5: Yes, I thought about this, Yes night game, Yes LSU 475 00:20:16,840 --> 00:20:20,760 Speaker 5: at I need this, Yes, inject into Vegas. 476 00:20:20,760 --> 00:20:22,000 Speaker 6: I actually think that he would have to have a 477 00:20:22,040 --> 00:20:23,280 Speaker 6: ton of security to go back there. 478 00:20:23,480 --> 00:20:26,160 Speaker 4: Yes, they said they go Ole Miss or LSU goes 479 00:20:26,200 --> 00:20:28,360 Speaker 4: the Ole Miss and Tennessee next year. 480 00:20:29,240 --> 00:20:32,760 Speaker 5: Oh, I just make just make their schedule. All of 481 00:20:32,840 --> 00:20:35,120 Speaker 5: Lane's previous stops haven't played the Raiders to they're only 482 00:20:35,520 --> 00:20:36,080 Speaker 5: My only. 483 00:20:35,920 --> 00:20:38,040 Speaker 1: Prediction is that whether it's two years, three years, four 484 00:20:38,080 --> 00:20:40,679 Speaker 1: years from now, it'll end the same way it always 485 00:20:40,720 --> 00:20:42,800 Speaker 1: ends with Lane Kiffeit it will not end well for 486 00:20:42,920 --> 00:20:43,560 Speaker 1: him there. 487 00:20:43,440 --> 00:20:46,800 Speaker 7: By the way, Florida at Duke, that's Cameron in door tonight, 488 00:20:47,119 --> 00:20:50,960 Speaker 7: Connecticut at Kansas Braylan Mullins back for the Huskies that 489 00:20:51,119 --> 00:20:54,200 Speaker 7: is at Allen Fieldhouse, And North Carolina. 490 00:20:53,840 --> 00:20:55,600 Speaker 6: At Rock is Darren Peterson back? 491 00:20:55,880 --> 00:20:58,240 Speaker 7: You think Darren Peterson? The hope is he will play 492 00:20:58,320 --> 00:21:00,440 Speaker 7: him play in Vegas in that tournament there, So I 493 00:21:00,520 --> 00:21:04,280 Speaker 7: love that Tonight he obviously got purduing Butler both playing tonight, 494 00:21:04,320 --> 00:21:08,240 Speaker 7: but from a local standpoint on campus venues, there should 495 00:21:08,280 --> 00:21:09,920 Speaker 7: be some great atmospheres and college basketball. 496 00:21:09,960 --> 00:21:11,919 Speaker 1: Well, my kids were little like like Nell. He's my 497 00:21:11,960 --> 00:21:13,840 Speaker 1: favorite thing to do was just sit on the couch, 498 00:21:14,240 --> 00:21:16,359 Speaker 1: hold them and watch sports. 499 00:21:16,920 --> 00:21:18,600 Speaker 7: I really thought for a second you were going to 500 00:21:18,640 --> 00:21:21,399 Speaker 7: say drive to the regional airport in Greek coaches. 501 00:21:21,760 --> 00:21:23,920 Speaker 1: Never done that. Maybe I should put maybe I need 502 00:21:23,920 --> 00:21:25,520 Speaker 1: to get that off my bucket list. 503 00:21:26,560 --> 00:21:29,399 Speaker 7: I'm trying to think who the Denver Broncos coach was 504 00:21:29,440 --> 00:21:32,840 Speaker 7: in nineteen, you know, ninety eight or something that you 505 00:21:32,840 --> 00:21:34,800 Speaker 7: could be booing Mike Shanahan. 506 00:21:34,920 --> 00:21:36,320 Speaker 2: It was Mike Shanahan at that point in time. 507 00:21:36,359 --> 00:21:37,240 Speaker 7: I guess you wouldn't be booing. 508 00:21:37,760 --> 00:21:40,160 Speaker 2: He won two Super Bowls to walk it off there. Well, 509 00:21:40,200 --> 00:21:41,720 Speaker 2: it did end well for him either. 510 00:21:41,800 --> 00:21:43,639 Speaker 4: Wade Phillips, you can give him the burden. 511 00:21:43,680 --> 00:21:44,240 Speaker 2: There you go. 512 00:21:46,280 --> 00:21:48,800 Speaker 1: Coming up in a moment, we'll talk Colts with Joel 513 00:21:48,840 --> 00:21:51,800 Speaker 1: a Ericson right here on ninety three five and one 514 00:21:51,840 --> 00:21:55,080 Speaker 1: oh seven to five of the fan. Let's turn our 515 00:21:55,119 --> 00:21:57,639 Speaker 1: attention very quickly now to the Indianapolis Colts. They'll be 516 00:21:57,680 --> 00:22:01,160 Speaker 1: traveling to Jacksonville on Sunday. Boy, do they need to win? 517 00:22:01,200 --> 00:22:03,440 Speaker 1: They need some good news and here to tell us 518 00:22:03,520 --> 00:22:06,840 Speaker 1: nothing but good news. I'm sure Joel Ericksons, the Indie 519 00:22:06,840 --> 00:22:10,200 Speaker 1: Star covers the Colts joins us on the Payless Liquors Hotline. Right, Joel, 520 00:22:10,280 --> 00:22:11,879 Speaker 1: nothing but good news today? 521 00:22:11,960 --> 00:22:15,560 Speaker 3: Right? Uh? Maybe not? 522 00:22:20,480 --> 00:22:22,560 Speaker 2: What can you tell us? Do we have any good news? 523 00:22:24,320 --> 00:22:26,680 Speaker 8: Well, it's good that it's good that Zaus Gardner's calf 524 00:22:26,720 --> 00:22:30,760 Speaker 8: injury is is not the season ending, is not does 525 00:22:30,800 --> 00:22:32,479 Speaker 8: not appear to be something that's going to keep him 526 00:22:32,560 --> 00:22:34,600 Speaker 8: up the entire time, So that that is good news. 527 00:22:34,640 --> 00:22:36,520 Speaker 8: I know there was a lot of a lot of 528 00:22:36,520 --> 00:22:39,439 Speaker 8: people who watch that happen and thought, you know, their 529 00:22:39,560 --> 00:22:40,080 Speaker 8: mind went. 530 00:22:39,960 --> 00:22:40,880 Speaker 3: To the worst right away. 531 00:22:40,920 --> 00:22:43,760 Speaker 8: But it sounds like even after a lot of times 532 00:22:43,760 --> 00:22:46,560 Speaker 8: when you talk to a player in the locker room 533 00:22:46,560 --> 00:22:50,240 Speaker 8: after after they get hurt, they'll say, you know, I 534 00:22:50,280 --> 00:22:53,320 Speaker 8: think I'm going to be fine, and then uh, it 535 00:22:53,440 --> 00:22:56,920 Speaker 8: turns out that, you know, the MRI disagrees. But this time, 536 00:22:57,040 --> 00:22:58,399 Speaker 8: this is this is one of the times that the 537 00:22:58,400 --> 00:23:01,280 Speaker 8: player was right about their own their own injury and 538 00:23:01,800 --> 00:23:05,440 Speaker 8: it's not a season ending or something like that. 539 00:23:06,040 --> 00:23:08,520 Speaker 5: I just remember standing in the scrum after the game 540 00:23:09,000 --> 00:23:10,840 Speaker 5: with Sauce Gardner in front of us, and of course 541 00:23:10,840 --> 00:23:14,400 Speaker 5: there's a bunch of cameras and reporters and Sauces describing 542 00:23:14,440 --> 00:23:16,480 Speaker 5: the injuries like yeah, it felt like it was more 543 00:23:17,240 --> 00:23:19,960 Speaker 5: high up in my calf, not really lower. And then 544 00:23:20,320 --> 00:23:23,120 Speaker 5: I have Joel behind me. He's going it was high. 545 00:23:23,640 --> 00:23:26,160 Speaker 5: He goes, yeah, it was high. And for a second 546 00:23:26,200 --> 00:23:27,879 Speaker 5: there I thought he asked him are you high? And 547 00:23:27,920 --> 00:23:30,160 Speaker 5: I was like whoall, Like, this is not an appropriate 548 00:23:30,200 --> 00:23:34,200 Speaker 5: time to be asking those questions. But nevertheless, Shoe positive 549 00:23:34,240 --> 00:23:36,959 Speaker 5: news on that front. But we were talking about this 550 00:23:37,320 --> 00:23:41,320 Speaker 5: yesterday on the show in regard to the poor port, 551 00:23:41,720 --> 00:23:44,840 Speaker 5: and so I'll say the scene a little bit. I 552 00:23:44,880 --> 00:23:48,080 Speaker 5: saw the flag not a flag on kennymore than second 553 00:23:48,680 --> 00:23:51,040 Speaker 5: for the defensive pass interference, and I was thinking, Man, 554 00:23:51,080 --> 00:23:53,080 Speaker 5: I'm always making jokes to Joel, who is our poor 555 00:23:53,080 --> 00:23:55,720 Speaker 5: reporter at these games, about having to do a poor 556 00:23:55,800 --> 00:23:58,080 Speaker 5: port for something tiki tak, but went over this time 557 00:23:58,080 --> 00:23:59,439 Speaker 5: and I was serious. I said, Hey, Joel, we might 558 00:23:59,480 --> 00:24:01,640 Speaker 5: need a poor port for real. So can you give 559 00:24:01,720 --> 00:24:05,440 Speaker 5: the listeners behind the scenes of what an actual poor 560 00:24:05,520 --> 00:24:08,000 Speaker 5: port looks like if you're the reporter involved. 561 00:24:07,600 --> 00:24:09,760 Speaker 3: In doing it. Yeah, so. 562 00:24:12,320 --> 00:24:17,960 Speaker 8: You have to reach out to the league, usually through 563 00:24:18,359 --> 00:24:20,920 Speaker 8: whoever's in charge at the game. You reach out to 564 00:24:20,960 --> 00:24:23,399 Speaker 8: the league, and they want you to They want to 565 00:24:23,440 --> 00:24:28,280 Speaker 8: know exactly what you want to ask about. So for example, uh, 566 00:24:28,840 --> 00:24:31,400 Speaker 8: it wasn't enough to say, you know, the play where 567 00:24:31,440 --> 00:24:35,680 Speaker 8: Kenny Moore was called for past interference because you also 568 00:24:35,720 --> 00:24:37,120 Speaker 8: had to say you wanted to ask about the delay 569 00:24:37,119 --> 00:24:42,160 Speaker 8: of game penalty. You can't just say one play and 570 00:24:42,160 --> 00:24:44,200 Speaker 8: and then and then they want to know that ahead 571 00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:48,639 Speaker 8: of time. I get a phone call. I know, I 572 00:24:48,640 --> 00:24:51,160 Speaker 8: saw some people saying, like I, I hope you guys 573 00:24:51,160 --> 00:24:54,920 Speaker 8: were sitting in that room laughing at these these answers. 574 00:24:55,240 --> 00:24:55,880 Speaker 8: But that's the thing. 575 00:24:55,920 --> 00:24:57,159 Speaker 3: There is no room. It is. 576 00:24:57,280 --> 00:24:58,320 Speaker 6: It's it's a phone. 577 00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:02,399 Speaker 8: Usually it's me in the tunnel because obviously we have 578 00:25:02,440 --> 00:25:05,679 Speaker 8: to get in the locker room and talk to players. 579 00:25:05,520 --> 00:25:08,520 Speaker 8: It's a phone call. It goes through the league to 580 00:25:08,640 --> 00:25:11,560 Speaker 8: the even though even though again Clay Martin, the referee, 581 00:25:12,119 --> 00:25:17,480 Speaker 8: within the same building we were, it's a phone call. 582 00:25:17,760 --> 00:25:21,040 Speaker 8: And then, like I said, the hardest part is I 583 00:25:21,040 --> 00:25:23,560 Speaker 8: think the hardest part is that you go down thinking, 584 00:25:23,600 --> 00:25:25,359 Speaker 8: you know what the explanation is going to be for 585 00:25:25,400 --> 00:25:28,560 Speaker 8: a call and getting ready to ask follow up questions 586 00:25:28,560 --> 00:25:32,399 Speaker 8: on that, and then if it changes, you don't have 587 00:25:32,480 --> 00:25:34,320 Speaker 8: the replay in front of you to come up with 588 00:25:34,400 --> 00:25:38,320 Speaker 8: something to ask right away. So like, for example, with 589 00:25:38,400 --> 00:25:43,480 Speaker 8: Kenny Moore's past interference, I was getting ready to ask 590 00:25:43,680 --> 00:25:48,400 Speaker 8: a follow up question about whether or not tangled feet 591 00:25:48,440 --> 00:25:54,840 Speaker 8: should be allowed to be a you know, be part 592 00:25:54,840 --> 00:25:57,840 Speaker 8: of a penalty, because in my understanding, it's not, and 593 00:25:57,880 --> 00:26:00,840 Speaker 8: then the referee says they called it because of an 594 00:26:00,960 --> 00:26:04,160 Speaker 8: arm grab, and I gotta be honest, I didn't see 595 00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:08,480 Speaker 8: an arm grab at any point in that play when 596 00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:10,399 Speaker 8: I watched the replay up in the press box. And 597 00:26:10,440 --> 00:26:12,919 Speaker 8: so then you know, the follow up I kind of 598 00:26:12,960 --> 00:26:15,479 Speaker 8: lose it because I was thinking one thing, and then 599 00:26:15,480 --> 00:26:18,240 Speaker 8: I'm trying to think was there an arm grab? I 600 00:26:18,240 --> 00:26:21,840 Speaker 8: don't remember there being much really any contact at all, 601 00:26:24,160 --> 00:26:26,720 Speaker 8: and and it kind of throws you off a little bit. 602 00:26:26,800 --> 00:26:29,960 Speaker 8: So that's that's another thing. Is The other thing is, 603 00:26:29,960 --> 00:26:31,760 Speaker 8: like I know some people wanted us to ask about 604 00:26:32,240 --> 00:26:36,200 Speaker 8: face masks. If you saw the answers that we get it, 605 00:26:36,359 --> 00:26:39,919 Speaker 8: they kind of come back and they just they just 606 00:26:39,960 --> 00:26:42,640 Speaker 8: stated as if the penalty was the most obvious thing 607 00:26:42,680 --> 00:26:44,880 Speaker 8: in the world. We don't get really an explanation. They 608 00:26:44,960 --> 00:26:48,360 Speaker 8: just tell us this happened, and this is the way 609 00:26:48,359 --> 00:26:51,639 Speaker 8: it works, and it doesn't really matter how you follow 610 00:26:51,720 --> 00:26:52,120 Speaker 8: up either. 611 00:26:52,200 --> 00:26:54,359 Speaker 3: That that's kind of just what they what they do. 612 00:26:56,200 --> 00:26:58,960 Speaker 7: Joe, nothing against you, certainly. I just think the Pool 613 00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:02,200 Speaker 7: report is so dump like. At least in the NBA 614 00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:06,680 Speaker 7: to two minute report, they will admit if they're right 615 00:27:06,840 --> 00:27:09,720 Speaker 7: or wrong. That's the day after the fact. The Pool 616 00:27:09,720 --> 00:27:12,640 Speaker 7: report happens ten minutes after the game ends. They're never 617 00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:15,600 Speaker 7: gonna admit that they're wrong. They're just gonna state exactly 618 00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:17,440 Speaker 7: what you just said there about Kenny Moore. We thought 619 00:27:17,440 --> 00:27:19,880 Speaker 7: there was whatever a grab at the top of the route. 620 00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:23,159 Speaker 7: It's not like they're going to actually dissect the film, 621 00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:26,040 Speaker 7: go over it, and then have the we were right, 622 00:27:26,160 --> 00:27:28,080 Speaker 7: we were wrong, like the NBA two minut report, which 623 00:27:28,119 --> 00:27:29,680 Speaker 7: I get, you know, people, I mean, there are a 624 00:27:29,680 --> 00:27:31,800 Speaker 7: lot of fans out there that hate all these sort 625 00:27:31,800 --> 00:27:34,919 Speaker 7: of two minute pool reports whatever. But at least from 626 00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:37,000 Speaker 7: an NBA side of it, you'll get the right or wrong. 627 00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:38,479 Speaker 7: The NFL you get none of that. 628 00:27:39,359 --> 00:27:42,919 Speaker 8: Yeah, I agree, I mean, I think the poor report 629 00:27:42,960 --> 00:27:46,600 Speaker 8: system is essentially designed to make it so that there's 630 00:27:46,800 --> 00:27:50,919 Speaker 8: less questions asked. Because if we're if all of us 631 00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:54,040 Speaker 8: are shitting in a room and this the referee has 632 00:27:54,119 --> 00:27:58,560 Speaker 8: coming and answer these questions, you know, Well, what happens 633 00:27:58,600 --> 00:28:00,680 Speaker 8: in the press conference is you're it might be going 634 00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:02,240 Speaker 8: one way, my head might be going the other way. 635 00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:05,080 Speaker 8: But that means we end up talking about those things 636 00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:09,840 Speaker 8: that we're thinking about, whereas with the pool report, you 637 00:28:09,920 --> 00:28:13,120 Speaker 8: don't have that it's on the phone, you don't really 638 00:28:13,119 --> 00:28:19,040 Speaker 8: have the chance to ask, you know, wide ranging questions. 639 00:28:19,080 --> 00:28:21,320 Speaker 8: It's it also like there's also a piece of it, 640 00:28:21,760 --> 00:28:25,080 Speaker 8: you know, I think James, James, you can back this up, Kevin, 641 00:28:25,119 --> 00:28:27,600 Speaker 8: you can back this up. A lot of times when 642 00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:31,040 Speaker 8: there's a call, we think about like, well, do we 643 00:28:31,040 --> 00:28:33,840 Speaker 8: need a pool report on this? And we kind of 644 00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:36,160 Speaker 8: know what you just said. We know that they're going 645 00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:40,880 Speaker 8: to just say it as if it wasn't controversial or 646 00:28:41,840 --> 00:28:45,200 Speaker 8: even really a tough decision at all, and so it's 647 00:28:45,240 --> 00:28:48,480 Speaker 8: like do we need like do we need it? You know, 648 00:28:48,920 --> 00:28:50,760 Speaker 8: do we need to go ask them for something that 649 00:28:50,760 --> 00:28:54,320 Speaker 8: they're just going to kind of speak from like an 650 00:28:54,360 --> 00:28:59,000 Speaker 8: alternate reality where this was really obvious. It is, it's designed, 651 00:28:59,080 --> 00:29:01,800 Speaker 8: like I said, it's designed to sort of to me, 652 00:29:02,080 --> 00:29:05,880 Speaker 8: it seems like it's designed to sort of make it 653 00:29:06,080 --> 00:29:08,520 Speaker 8: tayp down criticism officials. I don't know if it works 654 00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:11,640 Speaker 8: or not, but it doesn't give you a lot of leeway. 655 00:29:11,920 --> 00:29:14,280 Speaker 7: No, it does not work. Joel A. Rickson from the 656 00:29:14,360 --> 00:29:16,880 Speaker 7: Indiapols stories with us here on the payloist Suckers hotline. 657 00:29:16,880 --> 00:29:19,360 Speaker 7: One thing before we move on, Joel, and you are 658 00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:22,720 Speaker 7: a NFL Fishinado, you propose a rule change for you 659 00:29:23,080 --> 00:29:25,040 Speaker 7: and see if you agree on it. I asked, and 660 00:29:25,120 --> 00:29:28,000 Speaker 7: you walk down to us during the game on Sunday, Hey, 661 00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:31,120 Speaker 7: what questions would you have for the pool report? And 662 00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:32,560 Speaker 7: I said to you, and I think I already know. 663 00:29:32,600 --> 00:29:37,360 Speaker 7: The answer is delay a game reviewable? And I believe 664 00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:39,360 Speaker 7: you did ask that, so I appreciate that. And it 665 00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:42,800 Speaker 7: is not reviewable. Why don't we just do NBA shot 666 00:29:42,880 --> 00:29:45,200 Speaker 7: clock for delay a game? And when the red light 667 00:29:45,240 --> 00:29:48,160 Speaker 7: comes on around the play the play clock, the play's 668 00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:50,200 Speaker 7: dead and it's a five year penalty. Why is the 669 00:29:50,280 --> 00:29:52,680 Speaker 7: unwritten rule there? You're allowed to have a forty first 670 00:29:52,800 --> 00:29:54,240 Speaker 7: second to snap the ball. 671 00:29:55,360 --> 00:29:59,840 Speaker 10: I'm told with you on this, I don't know either, Like, wait, 672 00:30:00,520 --> 00:30:03,280 Speaker 10: the red uh like, like you said, the red, the 673 00:30:03,320 --> 00:30:05,480 Speaker 10: red comes up in the NBA, and we don't ever 674 00:30:05,560 --> 00:30:09,000 Speaker 10: have to worry about this and if there's ever a question, we. 675 00:30:09,040 --> 00:30:11,560 Speaker 8: Just review it. They have replay assists. Now it doesn't 676 00:30:11,560 --> 00:30:14,000 Speaker 8: have to take a long time. Like we have replay assists. 677 00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:17,240 Speaker 8: They called down apparently to the refs, and they tell 678 00:30:17,320 --> 00:30:20,520 Speaker 8: coaches things all the time that we don't necessarily know about. 679 00:30:20,600 --> 00:30:23,640 Speaker 8: So why can't we make delay of game review? But like, 680 00:30:23,720 --> 00:30:27,640 Speaker 8: it's not a subjective thing. It's not a judgment call. 681 00:30:27,840 --> 00:30:30,560 Speaker 8: It is cut and dry, did you snap it or not? 682 00:30:32,200 --> 00:30:35,360 Speaker 8: You know Sunday's. The way they basically answered that question 683 00:30:35,440 --> 00:30:39,040 Speaker 8: was they just took us through the process of you know, well, 684 00:30:39,280 --> 00:30:41,520 Speaker 8: if we see zero's, we're supposed to look down and 685 00:30:41,520 --> 00:30:45,240 Speaker 8: see if the ball snapped. And you know, if if 686 00:30:45,240 --> 00:30:47,160 Speaker 8: they looked at if they looked at Zeros and looked 687 00:30:47,160 --> 00:30:49,120 Speaker 8: down and see if the ball has been snapped on Sunday, 688 00:30:50,680 --> 00:30:53,400 Speaker 8: and I mean it had to be. That had to 689 00:30:53,400 --> 00:30:55,200 Speaker 8: be like the slowest looked out of all time, right 690 00:30:57,040 --> 00:30:59,320 Speaker 8: that that play was, That play was definitely a second 691 00:30:59,360 --> 00:31:01,520 Speaker 8: or two off. If you have the red lights, if 692 00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:04,520 Speaker 8: you have the review, the replay assists, I think that's 693 00:31:04,520 --> 00:31:06,240 Speaker 8: a pretty obvious one. I think they should use that 694 00:31:06,280 --> 00:31:08,160 Speaker 8: stuff for penalties. They don't like to do that in 695 00:31:08,160 --> 00:31:11,600 Speaker 8: the NFL, but they should have replay four penalties that 696 00:31:11,640 --> 00:31:12,480 Speaker 8: are cut and dry. 697 00:31:14,080 --> 00:31:16,920 Speaker 1: Talking to Joeli ericson Eddy Starr about the Indianapolis Colts, 698 00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:18,720 Speaker 1: what do you think they had to go zero to 699 00:31:18,760 --> 00:31:21,360 Speaker 1: one hundred? What are the chances Michael Badgeley is kicking 700 00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:23,840 Speaker 1: field goals and extra points for the Cults on Sunday. 701 00:31:24,440 --> 00:31:28,040 Speaker 8: Oh, forty percent. 702 00:31:30,800 --> 00:31:34,840 Speaker 2: That means we get tryouts this week, right, I thought so? 703 00:31:35,120 --> 00:31:37,840 Speaker 8: I mean I still don't. I went back and looked 704 00:31:37,840 --> 00:31:39,760 Speaker 8: at what James Takins said after he missed two kicks 705 00:31:39,800 --> 00:31:43,280 Speaker 8: in Berlin, and he said, we have faith in Badge 706 00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:47,280 Speaker 8: is what he said. Well, I was flying and James 707 00:31:47,320 --> 00:31:49,360 Speaker 8: was walking around Berlin and all that stuff. That's what 708 00:31:49,400 --> 00:31:52,160 Speaker 8: he said in the day after press conference that he 709 00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:52,760 Speaker 8: usually does. 710 00:31:54,120 --> 00:31:55,040 Speaker 3: He has not said that. 711 00:31:56,400 --> 00:31:59,880 Speaker 8: He said he loved him, he said he's got to. 712 00:31:59,840 --> 00:32:02,280 Speaker 3: Make those extra points. He knows that. 713 00:32:03,560 --> 00:32:05,960 Speaker 8: And to me, that usually that kind of shift in 714 00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:09,480 Speaker 8: tone with Shane's or shift in words or Shane's ike 715 00:32:09,520 --> 00:32:10,720 Speaker 8: and mean something. It's not. 716 00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:14,240 Speaker 6: It's not out of nowhere. I would agree. 717 00:32:14,280 --> 00:32:17,560 Speaker 5: I would agree honestly when it comes to what Shane 718 00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:20,680 Speaker 5: was saying. And I think Joel, your follow up yesterday 719 00:32:20,760 --> 00:32:22,920 Speaker 5: he left the door open. He basically said the same 720 00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:25,840 Speaker 5: thing he said after the game. We have faith in 721 00:32:25,880 --> 00:32:29,120 Speaker 5: whoever we put out there, and that whoever my bows 722 00:32:29,160 --> 00:32:30,600 Speaker 5: got raised A little bit on that for sure. 723 00:32:32,280 --> 00:32:32,560 Speaker 3: Yeah. 724 00:32:32,600 --> 00:32:37,280 Speaker 8: It. The other thing is like with Badgeley, if he 725 00:32:37,360 --> 00:32:40,200 Speaker 8: was missing fifty plus yard kicks that they were going 726 00:32:40,280 --> 00:32:43,120 Speaker 8: to force to take, I think the Colts would be like, well, 727 00:32:43,240 --> 00:32:46,280 Speaker 8: this is the trade off we made. We want the 728 00:32:46,320 --> 00:32:49,840 Speaker 8: accuracy inside fifty. We didn't think that he was going 729 00:32:49,880 --> 00:32:51,280 Speaker 8: to We knew he was going to be a little 730 00:32:51,280 --> 00:32:53,680 Speaker 8: bit dodgy outside of fifty. That's not what's happening, right, 731 00:32:53,840 --> 00:32:55,800 Speaker 8: Even though he does have a mess from fifty, he's 732 00:32:55,840 --> 00:32:58,280 Speaker 8: missing the kicks that they signed him to make. 733 00:32:58,520 --> 00:33:01,360 Speaker 7: Yeah, that's that's really, really well, said Joel A. Rickson 734 00:33:01,360 --> 00:33:04,000 Speaker 7: from The Star with us here on the Payloads Stickers Hotline. Joel, 735 00:33:04,040 --> 00:33:05,360 Speaker 7: I think you are one of the most stand up 736 00:33:05,360 --> 00:33:08,320 Speaker 7: individuals I've come across in my time on this earth. 737 00:33:08,680 --> 00:33:11,440 Speaker 7: You have three young boys. I would sign off on 738 00:33:11,480 --> 00:33:13,680 Speaker 7: a marriage right now for one of my two daughters. 739 00:33:14,840 --> 00:33:18,160 Speaker 7: Even Mark has said nice things about you before, despite 740 00:33:18,440 --> 00:33:22,000 Speaker 7: your Cubs and your Brewers venom towards each other. 741 00:33:22,080 --> 00:33:23,640 Speaker 6: We'd put a house divided. Sign up. 742 00:33:23,680 --> 00:33:27,240 Speaker 4: That's fine, the Brewers and the Cups sign yes, exactly, yes, 743 00:33:27,320 --> 00:33:27,920 Speaker 4: house divided. 744 00:33:28,080 --> 00:33:30,520 Speaker 2: If there's only one flagpole, who gets to fly the flag? 745 00:33:30,560 --> 00:33:30,680 Speaker 3: Though? 746 00:33:30,720 --> 00:33:35,760 Speaker 7: Whoever wins that day, they both rock paper scissors. Okay, Now, Joel, 747 00:33:36,480 --> 00:33:40,000 Speaker 7: I don't think there is a list of things you 748 00:33:40,240 --> 00:33:43,880 Speaker 7: hate more in the world than the location of this 749 00:33:43,960 --> 00:33:46,960 Speaker 7: game on Sunday. I have never heard a man talk 750 00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:50,400 Speaker 7: about another city in the manner that Joel A. Erickson 751 00:33:50,720 --> 00:33:54,160 Speaker 7: talks about the city of Jacksonville, Florida. 752 00:33:54,600 --> 00:33:57,080 Speaker 5: Now, this is the question. You have to ask him. 753 00:33:57,240 --> 00:34:00,360 Speaker 5: How long he's going to be in Jacksonville. That's the question, Joel, 754 00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:03,120 Speaker 5: What is the itinerary? And do you hate anything in 755 00:34:03,160 --> 00:34:04,360 Speaker 5: the world more than Jacksonville? 756 00:34:05,520 --> 00:34:07,920 Speaker 3: Did he wise? Not? 757 00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:12,360 Speaker 8: Not any city anybody's heard of, Not any city anybody's 758 00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:15,160 Speaker 8: heard of. It's it's like there's like a few small 759 00:34:15,200 --> 00:34:17,359 Speaker 8: towns in Wisconsin. I still have beef with from high 760 00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:22,280 Speaker 8: school football, but that's like, that's it. And so this 761 00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:27,000 Speaker 8: this is the great, the great injustice of this season. 762 00:34:27,080 --> 00:34:30,120 Speaker 8: Is that, for the first time in like five years, 763 00:34:31,200 --> 00:34:33,400 Speaker 8: I have to spend two nights in Jacksonville. 764 00:34:33,520 --> 00:34:37,359 Speaker 7: Oh God, how the hell did that press college? Why 765 00:34:37,360 --> 00:34:39,480 Speaker 7: don't I just drive? Why don't you just start, you know, 766 00:34:39,560 --> 00:34:41,680 Speaker 7: leaving it? I don't know. Ten pm Saturday night, I 767 00:34:41,680 --> 00:34:43,120 Speaker 7: don't know. If you get there on time? Probably not. 768 00:34:43,480 --> 00:34:47,720 Speaker 8: It didn't work out. My flight is supposed to land James, 769 00:34:47,840 --> 00:34:50,520 Speaker 8: James and Kevin know this. I frequently fly fairly late 770 00:34:50,600 --> 00:34:53,520 Speaker 8: to games so I can make my kids games on Saturday. 771 00:34:53,560 --> 00:34:56,239 Speaker 8: So my flight lands there at the normal time, which 772 00:34:56,280 --> 00:34:58,200 Speaker 8: is very late, and I just go straight to bed 773 00:34:58,640 --> 00:35:00,680 Speaker 8: and then wake up and go to this infernal thing 774 00:35:00,719 --> 00:35:04,120 Speaker 8: they call a stadium, which I know they're putting up 775 00:35:04,120 --> 00:35:06,799 Speaker 8: a new one. Suppose, yeah, you know that's gonna fix 776 00:35:06,840 --> 00:35:09,120 Speaker 8: all whatever. It's still going to be in Jacksonville, like 777 00:35:09,160 --> 00:35:11,759 Speaker 8: there's it's I don't care how new it is. It's 778 00:35:11,800 --> 00:35:16,600 Speaker 8: not gonna be great. But normally I get leave the 779 00:35:16,640 --> 00:35:18,400 Speaker 8: press box, do my thing, and go straight to the 780 00:35:18,400 --> 00:35:21,080 Speaker 8: air to fly back out. I couldn't do that this year. 781 00:35:21,520 --> 00:35:25,959 Speaker 8: The flights did not work. My assumption is that any 782 00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:28,319 Speaker 8: Colts fan who is going has heard me talk about 783 00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:30,320 Speaker 8: this and thought, you know what, that's a really good idea. 784 00:35:30,800 --> 00:35:34,480 Speaker 8: And so they're not saying in Jacksonville either. But I 785 00:35:34,520 --> 00:35:38,320 Speaker 8: have I have many issues with Jacksonville. Number one, why 786 00:35:38,719 --> 00:35:42,320 Speaker 8: is it so far inland? The ocean is right there. 787 00:35:43,239 --> 00:35:45,400 Speaker 8: All of the cool people are like, well, Jacksonville's not 788 00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:48,600 Speaker 8: that bad. There's this thing over here, like that's not Jacksonville. 789 00:35:48,680 --> 00:35:51,800 Speaker 8: That's like Jacksonville Beach, or it's done by PPC Sawgrass. 790 00:35:51,840 --> 00:35:55,600 Speaker 8: Those are not Jacksonville. We have to spend our time 791 00:35:55,719 --> 00:35:59,759 Speaker 8: in Jacksonville. The last time we were there, they had 792 00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:02,760 Speaker 8: they were like doing road construction on the bridges or whatever, 793 00:36:02,880 --> 00:36:06,800 Speaker 8: and instead of like making it look nice or whatever 794 00:36:06,920 --> 00:36:09,239 Speaker 8: wherever you have to put this road signs, they just 795 00:36:09,280 --> 00:36:11,600 Speaker 8: cut off pieces of old bridge and drop them by 796 00:36:11,640 --> 00:36:14,920 Speaker 8: the side of the highway like you're just running a landfill. 797 00:36:14,960 --> 00:36:18,040 Speaker 8: At that point, like come on with your with your city. 798 00:36:18,600 --> 00:36:18,920 Speaker 3: All right. 799 00:36:19,040 --> 00:36:22,080 Speaker 1: Fact, he just went on for over sixty seconds on 800 00:36:22,120 --> 00:36:23,479 Speaker 1: the things he doesn't like about. 801 00:36:23,520 --> 00:36:24,839 Speaker 7: You should use jam in the media room. 802 00:36:24,920 --> 00:36:26,319 Speaker 6: This's the PVPG version. 803 00:36:26,640 --> 00:36:28,960 Speaker 7: Gim me right now. I honestly think you know, tell 804 00:36:29,080 --> 00:36:32,000 Speaker 7: Zyr Franklin you go in the locker room early. They 805 00:36:32,040 --> 00:36:34,279 Speaker 7: need to have Joel breakdown the huddle before this team 806 00:36:34,280 --> 00:36:36,760 Speaker 7: heads into the locker room to describe Jacksonville on Sunday. 807 00:36:36,840 --> 00:36:38,400 Speaker 4: If they told Joel, if you put a shovel on 808 00:36:38,440 --> 00:36:41,480 Speaker 4: the ground and start digging, we'll move. We'll do Orlando 809 00:36:41,680 --> 00:36:43,440 Speaker 4: a year early, he would start doing it. 810 00:36:43,800 --> 00:36:45,000 Speaker 2: Probably, I'll do that. 811 00:36:45,320 --> 00:36:47,440 Speaker 7: Would you rather the Jaguars be in London? 812 00:36:48,880 --> 00:36:52,040 Speaker 8: Yes, oh, one thousand percent. London is a fantastic city. 813 00:36:52,480 --> 00:36:55,520 Speaker 8: Jacksonville is a collection of buildings that just got stuck together. 814 00:36:55,840 --> 00:36:57,880 Speaker 2: He's not wrong, He's not wrong. 815 00:36:58,520 --> 00:37:02,640 Speaker 1: I just real quickly, Joe, I just asked the computer 816 00:37:02,719 --> 00:37:05,120 Speaker 1: for five random small towns in Wisconsin. 817 00:37:05,280 --> 00:37:06,719 Speaker 2: You tell me if they're on your list or not. 818 00:37:06,800 --> 00:37:14,400 Speaker 1: Okay, Okay, Fish Creek now, Monroe now Chipwall Falls. 819 00:37:16,040 --> 00:37:17,920 Speaker 3: Uh, Chip, where I'm. 820 00:37:17,760 --> 00:37:18,800 Speaker 8: From, is not small. 821 00:37:19,320 --> 00:37:21,320 Speaker 3: Chipp is one of the larger towns. 822 00:37:21,080 --> 00:37:26,480 Speaker 2: Around me, all right, Cedarburg, Peterberg is. 823 00:37:26,560 --> 00:37:28,640 Speaker 8: We're getting closer there, but they're in the wrong part 824 00:37:28,640 --> 00:37:29,040 Speaker 8: of the state. 825 00:37:29,160 --> 00:37:31,280 Speaker 1: So give me the one town that you just cannot 826 00:37:31,440 --> 00:37:32,520 Speaker 1: stomach in Wisconsin. 827 00:37:34,040 --> 00:37:34,399 Speaker 3: All right. 828 00:37:34,680 --> 00:37:37,480 Speaker 2: I never would have gotten there, so a big defense. 829 00:37:38,040 --> 00:37:38,359 Speaker 3: They were. 830 00:37:38,360 --> 00:37:41,880 Speaker 8: They're twelve, They're twelve miles away their arrival and everything. 831 00:37:43,080 --> 00:37:47,000 Speaker 7: White out deeply to Joel on a crack legal crack. 832 00:37:48,719 --> 00:37:51,680 Speaker 6: There, brother, it has been decades. 833 00:37:52,200 --> 00:37:54,920 Speaker 7: It sounds like an SEC football fan going one finger 834 00:37:55,000 --> 00:37:57,040 Speaker 7: salute to whatever that city is he just named. 835 00:37:58,120 --> 00:38:00,120 Speaker 2: Joel, have a good day, man, Thanks for putting up 836 00:38:00,160 --> 00:38:00,840 Speaker 2: with our nonsense. 837 00:38:01,719 --> 00:38:03,319 Speaker 8: You bet guys, thanks for having me on. 838 00:38:04,960 --> 00:38:07,480 Speaker 7: All right, nine o'clock on a Tuesday on some people 839 00:38:08,280 --> 00:38:10,520 Speaker 7: might be just getting out of the house right now. 840 00:38:10,560 --> 00:38:13,480 Speaker 7: Commute in wasn't too too bad. Granted that was whatever 841 00:38:13,520 --> 00:38:16,680 Speaker 7: three hours ago, but certainly safe travels. It's out side 842 00:38:16,719 --> 00:38:20,279 Speaker 7: streets little meh, but main streets weren't too bad on 843 00:38:20,480 --> 00:38:23,320 Speaker 7: the morning commute. Unfortunately, I think the weather probably impacted 844 00:38:23,320 --> 00:38:25,640 Speaker 7: a little bit of the atmosphere last night inside of 845 00:38:25,680 --> 00:38:28,920 Speaker 7: gamebridge Field House to talk more about the Pacers and 846 00:38:28,960 --> 00:38:30,719 Speaker 7: the cabs last night. He is the head coach of 847 00:38:30,719 --> 00:38:33,239 Speaker 7: the Indiana Pacers and he's with us right now. Rick 848 00:38:33,480 --> 00:38:35,879 Speaker 7: Carlisle coach, Good morning to you. How are you. 849 00:38:37,480 --> 00:38:40,600 Speaker 3: Good? Sound like you guys were slow jamming the news 850 00:38:40,640 --> 00:38:42,200 Speaker 3: there for that music. 851 00:38:42,440 --> 00:38:44,440 Speaker 7: Little slow jam action. Can you get behind that? 852 00:38:46,280 --> 00:38:46,880 Speaker 3: Sure? Why not? 853 00:38:47,280 --> 00:38:50,120 Speaker 7: Look at that's all right? Mark dykedon jot that down. 854 00:38:50,120 --> 00:38:52,279 Speaker 7: We might need that for a Rick Carlile reentry here 855 00:38:52,280 --> 00:38:55,440 Speaker 7: coming up later in the season. Coach, Defensively, you guys 856 00:38:55,480 --> 00:38:57,440 Speaker 7: have been very good over the last week and a 857 00:38:57,440 --> 00:38:59,799 Speaker 7: half two weeks or so, but last night a lot 858 00:38:59,800 --> 00:39:01,920 Speaker 7: of second chance points early in the game. Did you 859 00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:04,120 Speaker 7: see that as the biggest difference for Cleveland. 860 00:39:05,560 --> 00:39:09,440 Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, we didn't do a good enough job hitting 861 00:39:09,480 --> 00:39:13,680 Speaker 3: first on blockouts, and I think they hit us for 862 00:39:13,800 --> 00:39:16,160 Speaker 3: nine or eleven second chance points in the first quarter, 863 00:39:16,239 --> 00:39:18,600 Speaker 3: and that was That was a bad start. 864 00:39:20,560 --> 00:39:20,719 Speaker 2: Rick. 865 00:39:20,800 --> 00:39:22,799 Speaker 5: When you look at these games and you're able to 866 00:39:22,840 --> 00:39:24,759 Speaker 5: kind of climb back into it, I guess what's the 867 00:39:24,840 --> 00:39:27,960 Speaker 5: message when you see the version of yourselves that obviously 868 00:39:28,040 --> 00:39:30,040 Speaker 5: can't play the brand of basketball you want to like? 869 00:39:30,680 --> 00:39:33,239 Speaker 5: Is that something that you revisit after the game, like, hey, 870 00:39:33,239 --> 00:39:35,520 Speaker 5: this is how we have to play the entire four quarters, 871 00:39:35,640 --> 00:39:37,640 Speaker 5: or you know, how in your face with it? 872 00:39:37,719 --> 00:39:38,000 Speaker 2: Are you? 873 00:39:40,640 --> 00:39:44,520 Speaker 3: Well? Are you you're talking about how we're presently constructed? 874 00:39:45,200 --> 00:39:46,839 Speaker 6: Yeah, because it is. 875 00:39:47,000 --> 00:39:49,080 Speaker 5: You know, I don't want to say it's an excuse, 876 00:39:49,160 --> 00:39:51,759 Speaker 5: but at the same time, there's some legitimate reasons maybe 877 00:39:51,760 --> 00:39:54,760 Speaker 5: why you aren't playing your your typical brand of basketball. 878 00:39:56,719 --> 00:39:59,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, we had to adjust a lot, and I think 879 00:39:59,040 --> 00:40:05,360 Speaker 3: that's obvious. And so look, we've made progress in the 880 00:40:05,440 --> 00:40:11,399 Speaker 3: last seven games. So before last night, in the previous 881 00:40:11,440 --> 00:40:14,040 Speaker 3: six games, were number one in the league in defense. 882 00:40:14,840 --> 00:40:18,759 Speaker 3: So that's that's progress, and that's something to be proud of. 883 00:40:20,400 --> 00:40:23,200 Speaker 3: But as we know, it's you know, it's it's not 884 00:40:23,320 --> 00:40:30,000 Speaker 3: a destination. I mean, this all requires continued work, continued focus. 885 00:40:30,480 --> 00:40:34,880 Speaker 3: And so, yeah, we had slippage last night. Pretty obviously. 886 00:40:36,239 --> 00:40:38,600 Speaker 3: Cleveland came in here on a three game losing streak. 887 00:40:40,000 --> 00:40:42,360 Speaker 3: Give them credit. They were very determined and you know, 888 00:40:43,040 --> 00:40:46,440 Speaker 3: Mitchell got going and we didn't have very many answers. 889 00:40:47,120 --> 00:40:49,400 Speaker 5: I know you mentioned your defense really planned at a 890 00:40:49,480 --> 00:40:52,000 Speaker 5: high level. Of course, some slippage last night, as you mentioned, 891 00:40:52,000 --> 00:40:54,520 Speaker 5: But on top of that, looking at Jay Huff and 892 00:40:54,600 --> 00:40:57,480 Speaker 5: what he's really done for your team over the last 893 00:40:57,640 --> 00:40:59,800 Speaker 5: week or so, how have you seen him find a 894 00:40:59,800 --> 00:41:02,279 Speaker 5: great offensively and defensively? Last time I checked, I believe 895 00:41:02,320 --> 00:41:03,560 Speaker 5: he was leading the league in blocks per game. 896 00:41:05,840 --> 00:41:09,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, he's uh, he's made great progress, and he's a 897 00:41:10,080 --> 00:41:13,759 Speaker 3: he's a terrific kid. You know, he came into a 898 00:41:13,840 --> 00:41:18,280 Speaker 3: situation that was quite different than Memphis. There's been certainly 899 00:41:18,760 --> 00:41:22,120 Speaker 3: an adjustment period for him. You know, a lot of 900 00:41:22,160 --> 00:41:25,759 Speaker 3: things with our team has changed this year. But as 901 00:41:25,840 --> 00:41:30,880 Speaker 3: we've gone along and had you know, some moderate success 902 00:41:30,920 --> 00:41:35,040 Speaker 3: over the last seven games, he's been He's certainly been 903 00:41:35,040 --> 00:41:37,400 Speaker 3: a big part of it with his ability to stretch 904 00:41:37,440 --> 00:41:42,840 Speaker 3: the floor. He's rebounded well, and you mentioned the block shots. 905 00:41:42,880 --> 00:41:46,040 Speaker 3: I mean, he he's pretty elite in that area. 906 00:41:46,840 --> 00:41:50,040 Speaker 7: Pacers Nuggets coming up tomorrow night inside a gamebridge Field House, 907 00:41:50,200 --> 00:41:53,240 Speaker 7: Rick Carlile with us here on the Payloss Slickers hotline. 908 00:41:53,280 --> 00:41:55,640 Speaker 7: You mentioned that number one defense, you know there for 909 00:41:55,680 --> 00:41:59,000 Speaker 7: about a two week stretch. You know, what have you 910 00:41:59,600 --> 00:42:02,319 Speaker 7: liked from a chain standpoint on that end of the floor. Again, 911 00:42:02,360 --> 00:42:05,279 Speaker 7: we've seen some lineup tweaks, but what hasn't been on 912 00:42:05,320 --> 00:42:08,480 Speaker 7: the defensive end. That's given you certainly much more optimism 913 00:42:08,760 --> 00:42:10,000 Speaker 7: about where you guys are playing. 914 00:42:12,239 --> 00:42:19,959 Speaker 3: Probably just simply the fact that we've been physical. We've 915 00:42:20,000 --> 00:42:22,840 Speaker 3: done a reasonably good job of keeping people off the 916 00:42:22,880 --> 00:42:27,839 Speaker 3: free throw line. When we've had success, our rebounding has 917 00:42:27,840 --> 00:42:30,800 Speaker 3: been better. Uh, you know, certainly with the exception of 918 00:42:30,920 --> 00:42:39,440 Speaker 3: last night and so and you know, it's nbas is 919 00:42:39,480 --> 00:42:42,560 Speaker 3: a difficult league. You know, it's it's a difficult league. 920 00:42:42,760 --> 00:42:47,000 Speaker 3: It's become more physical. You know, we were certainly a 921 00:42:47,040 --> 00:42:49,399 Speaker 3: part of that with how it played the last couple 922 00:42:49,440 --> 00:42:55,320 Speaker 3: of years, and so you always have to keep adjusting, 923 00:42:55,800 --> 00:42:59,880 Speaker 3: and then you have to adjust your adjustments. 924 00:43:00,000 --> 00:43:03,040 Speaker 7: We go back to over the weekend, coach, obviously, you 925 00:43:03,080 --> 00:43:07,040 Speaker 7: guys win the back to back against Washington and Chicago 926 00:43:07,080 --> 00:43:09,759 Speaker 7: and you see Pascal Siakam hit that game winner. You 927 00:43:09,800 --> 00:43:12,320 Speaker 7: guys been on the wrong side of several vose shots 928 00:43:12,400 --> 00:43:15,200 Speaker 7: here throughout the early part of the season. If you 929 00:43:15,239 --> 00:43:17,960 Speaker 7: could from your perspective, like, what did you see from 930 00:43:18,000 --> 00:43:21,080 Speaker 7: Siakam on that play? I was particularly struck by just 931 00:43:21,560 --> 00:43:25,920 Speaker 7: his entire demeanor, cool, calm, collected, seemingly knowing where the 932 00:43:25,920 --> 00:43:28,680 Speaker 7: clock is, you know, the pump, fake, all of it. 933 00:43:29,400 --> 00:43:31,160 Speaker 7: Could you kind of walk us through what you saw 934 00:43:31,239 --> 00:43:33,680 Speaker 7: from Pascal in that moment to win the game? 935 00:43:36,040 --> 00:43:39,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, he you know all the things you just mentioned. 936 00:43:39,400 --> 00:43:44,200 Speaker 3: Certainly he had a good feel for the clocks. We 937 00:43:44,320 --> 00:43:47,720 Speaker 3: tried to space the floor to give him an angle 938 00:43:47,760 --> 00:43:52,280 Speaker 3: in an area to go to to get to a spot. 939 00:43:52,600 --> 00:43:56,439 Speaker 3: It was not an easy shot, and I was right 940 00:43:56,520 --> 00:44:02,560 Speaker 3: behind him in line with the basket, and in real time, 941 00:44:02,719 --> 00:44:07,239 Speaker 3: just standing there, it looked like he just he went 942 00:44:07,280 --> 00:44:09,200 Speaker 3: to his spot and rose up, but there was actually 943 00:44:09,239 --> 00:44:13,319 Speaker 3: a hesitation, and it reminded me a little bit of 944 00:44:13,400 --> 00:44:19,040 Speaker 3: Dirk Nowitzky. You know, I saw many game winners during 945 00:44:19,040 --> 00:44:21,960 Speaker 3: my thirteen years with him. I think eleven out of 946 00:44:21,960 --> 00:44:26,360 Speaker 3: thirteen were with him. And Pascal has the ability to 947 00:44:26,760 --> 00:44:30,520 Speaker 3: at the last second, you know, very calmly and very coolly, 948 00:44:31,920 --> 00:44:34,719 Speaker 3: change the angle of the shot to back up a 949 00:44:34,719 --> 00:44:40,440 Speaker 3: little bit and ball goes a little bit higher. You can, 950 00:44:40,560 --> 00:44:42,279 Speaker 3: you can go up to try to block it all 951 00:44:42,320 --> 00:44:46,080 Speaker 3: you want, but when he when he makes that geometrical 952 00:44:46,200 --> 00:44:48,839 Speaker 3: change and gets it up, it there's just no way 953 00:44:48,840 --> 00:44:52,920 Speaker 3: to get to it. And it was perfection, as difficult 954 00:44:53,040 --> 00:44:55,799 Speaker 3: as it was. I mean, the thing, the only thing 955 00:44:55,840 --> 00:44:59,000 Speaker 3: better would have been if you know, the red light 956 00:44:59,040 --> 00:45:02,280 Speaker 3: had gone on while the ball in the air. But uh, 957 00:45:02,360 --> 00:45:05,160 Speaker 3: you know, point one on the clock is uh is 958 00:45:05,200 --> 00:45:07,680 Speaker 3: pretty damn good. And it was an amazing shot and 959 00:45:07,719 --> 00:45:09,120 Speaker 3: certainly much needed. 960 00:45:09,400 --> 00:45:11,960 Speaker 5: Yeah, I was saying watching that game, we got to 961 00:45:11,960 --> 00:45:14,279 Speaker 5: get the home clock operator and give him the walk 962 00:45:14,320 --> 00:45:16,040 Speaker 5: off win there with the point once it left on 963 00:45:16,080 --> 00:45:19,160 Speaker 5: the clock. But Rick, you touched on a little bit there, 964 00:45:19,200 --> 00:45:21,800 Speaker 5: But how much value do you think it is, especially 965 00:45:21,800 --> 00:45:23,760 Speaker 5: in the league like this, where there's so many guys 966 00:45:23,760 --> 00:45:27,000 Speaker 5: that can you know, do multiple things now as far 967 00:45:27,080 --> 00:45:30,239 Speaker 5: as you know, shoot, drive past whatever, but you still 968 00:45:30,239 --> 00:45:31,960 Speaker 5: have that one guy at least on your roster. And 969 00:45:32,000 --> 00:45:34,640 Speaker 5: I think Benediga has some of this as well, that 970 00:45:35,080 --> 00:45:37,279 Speaker 5: when you're kind of in a bind, he can still 971 00:45:37,320 --> 00:45:38,600 Speaker 5: get a pretty good look. 972 00:45:38,680 --> 00:45:40,200 Speaker 6: You've been around the game for a long time. How 973 00:45:40,280 --> 00:45:41,440 Speaker 6: rare a talent is that? 974 00:45:43,640 --> 00:45:46,759 Speaker 3: Well, this is you know, this is a definition of 975 00:45:46,280 --> 00:45:48,600 Speaker 3: a of a max player, you know, a guy that 976 00:45:48,640 --> 00:45:55,000 Speaker 3: can that can create consistently create an advantage for his team. 977 00:45:55,120 --> 00:46:01,720 Speaker 3: So yeah, I mean really the technical definition is probably 978 00:46:02,000 --> 00:46:08,320 Speaker 3: can consistently create an advantage for himself. But in Pascal's mind, 979 00:46:08,320 --> 00:46:10,640 Speaker 3: it's it's all about the team and what he can 980 00:46:10,680 --> 00:46:15,800 Speaker 3: do for the team. And so yeah, it's it's made him, 981 00:46:16,440 --> 00:46:20,360 Speaker 3: you know, a very special player for us. He's a 982 00:46:20,440 --> 00:46:23,640 Speaker 3: very special person. And you know, how he's led through 983 00:46:23,640 --> 00:46:28,000 Speaker 3: this difficult stretch has been uh has been quite uh 984 00:46:28,239 --> 00:46:34,160 Speaker 3: has been quite exceptional because he's he's remained very upbeat. 985 00:46:34,320 --> 00:46:38,320 Speaker 3: He's had great wisdom. He he you know, he picks 986 00:46:38,480 --> 00:46:42,719 Speaker 3: the exact right spots to to interject on what's going 987 00:46:42,800 --> 00:46:48,000 Speaker 3: on and to help and uh, you know, his consistency 988 00:46:48,080 --> 00:46:49,360 Speaker 3: has been impeccable. 989 00:46:50,280 --> 00:46:53,279 Speaker 7: Then Rick Carlisle with on the Payloss Slickers hotline, as 990 00:46:53,280 --> 00:46:55,759 Speaker 7: the Pacers will get back to work coming up tomorrow night, 991 00:46:55,800 --> 00:46:57,399 Speaker 7: it will be the Patris and Nuggets inside a game 992 00:46:57,440 --> 00:47:00,000 Speaker 7: bridge Field House. Coach, You've talked a little bit these 993 00:47:00,040 --> 00:47:02,240 Speaker 7: last two days on the show about how this weekend 994 00:47:02,280 --> 00:47:06,760 Speaker 7: Saturday specifically is kind of a dream scenario for IU fans. 995 00:47:06,760 --> 00:47:09,680 Speaker 7: Their basketball team will play inside of your building coming 996 00:47:09,760 --> 00:47:11,960 Speaker 7: up Saturday afternoon against Louisville, and they'll play in the 997 00:47:12,000 --> 00:47:15,600 Speaker 7: Big Ten title one versus two Saturday night. It kind 998 00:47:15,600 --> 00:47:17,040 Speaker 7: of got me thinking, I don't know if you've ever 999 00:47:17,120 --> 00:47:19,560 Speaker 7: asked you this, did you have a Do you have 1000 00:47:19,600 --> 00:47:23,120 Speaker 7: a favorite team, you know, any sport when you were 1001 00:47:23,120 --> 00:47:25,359 Speaker 7: growing up or a favorite player? I get you weren't 1002 00:47:25,400 --> 00:47:28,160 Speaker 7: filing up league pass necessarily, but did you have a 1003 00:47:28,160 --> 00:47:29,879 Speaker 7: favorite team a favorite player growing up? 1004 00:47:32,000 --> 00:47:34,560 Speaker 3: Uh, you're talking about football or basketball either. 1005 00:47:34,440 --> 00:47:37,000 Speaker 7: I guess any just like childhood, Rick Carlile, did he 1006 00:47:37,040 --> 00:47:38,479 Speaker 7: have a favorite sport or favorite team? 1007 00:47:40,600 --> 00:47:46,600 Speaker 3: Yeah? I mean, you know, I followed the NBA, you know, 1008 00:47:46,719 --> 00:47:49,319 Speaker 3: largely through magazines growing up, because you know, we didn't 1009 00:47:49,360 --> 00:47:51,840 Speaker 3: have cable TV. I think I probably told you this story, 1010 00:47:51,880 --> 00:47:58,120 Speaker 3: but you know, early on, you know, when I was 1011 00:47:58,200 --> 00:48:00,520 Speaker 3: ten or eleven years old, you know, that was when 1012 00:48:01,160 --> 00:48:03,839 Speaker 3: Louel Sander was drafted by the Bucks and he and 1013 00:48:03,880 --> 00:48:06,719 Speaker 3: Oscar were playing together there and and I became a 1014 00:48:06,760 --> 00:48:11,040 Speaker 3: big fan of of of Al Sander, who became Kareem 1015 00:48:11,920 --> 00:48:15,719 Speaker 3: and then and then I kind of hooked on with 1016 00:48:15,760 --> 00:48:19,520 Speaker 3: the Lakers in seventy two when they had their run 1017 00:48:19,560 --> 00:48:21,839 Speaker 3: and at one point won thirty three games in a row. 1018 00:48:21,880 --> 00:48:27,400 Speaker 3: And I remember listening to games on AM radio, you know, 1019 00:48:27,480 --> 00:48:29,640 Speaker 3: during the playoffs that year. You know, back in those 1020 00:48:29,719 --> 00:48:32,600 Speaker 3: days where we lived up near Canada, you could pick 1021 00:48:32,680 --> 00:48:37,840 Speaker 3: up AM radio signals, you know, late at night, and 1022 00:48:37,880 --> 00:48:40,839 Speaker 3: it was it was pretty amazing. It was. It would 1023 00:48:40,840 --> 00:48:42,719 Speaker 3: come through very clear, you know. And that was that 1024 00:48:42,840 --> 00:48:48,280 Speaker 3: was the year they had you know, Wes Goodrich, McMillan, Happy, Harrison, 1025 00:48:48,360 --> 00:48:51,600 Speaker 3: and Chamberlain as their starters, and you know, they were 1026 00:48:51,800 --> 00:48:54,879 Speaker 3: they were great, and uh, you know, and then after that, 1027 00:48:55,080 --> 00:48:59,920 Speaker 3: I'm just trying to think, you know, I was so 1028 00:49:00,200 --> 00:49:02,000 Speaker 3: more of a Knicks fan, you know, in the in 1029 00:49:02,040 --> 00:49:05,440 Speaker 3: the early seventies as well. You know, my dad grew 1030 00:49:05,520 --> 00:49:08,240 Speaker 3: up in Elmsford, New York, which is in Westchester County. 1031 00:49:09,160 --> 00:49:11,200 Speaker 3: We went to a couple of Knicks games early on 1032 00:49:11,320 --> 00:49:14,680 Speaker 3: at the Garden. Those were very, very memorable. You know, 1033 00:49:14,719 --> 00:49:18,440 Speaker 3: I was in my you know, eleven, twelve, thirteen year 1034 00:49:18,440 --> 00:49:22,960 Speaker 3: old you know range of age. And then you know, 1035 00:49:23,120 --> 00:49:26,240 Speaker 3: I mean all that kind of came full circle when 1036 00:49:26,360 --> 00:49:28,800 Speaker 3: I got signed by the Knicks in this on December 1037 00:49:28,880 --> 00:49:31,799 Speaker 3: first of eighty seven, and that night had my best 1038 00:49:31,800 --> 00:49:34,000 Speaker 3: game as a pro, you know, Massive Square Garden, and 1039 00:49:34,040 --> 00:49:38,279 Speaker 3: I just so much of that stuff was was so cool. 1040 00:49:40,000 --> 00:49:43,440 Speaker 3: And then you know, when the when the ABA NBA 1041 00:49:43,560 --> 00:49:46,359 Speaker 3: merger happened, you know, doctor j was was the guy 1042 00:49:46,440 --> 00:49:49,920 Speaker 3: that was you know, I was completely enamored with, you know, 1043 00:49:50,320 --> 00:49:54,520 Speaker 3: the style of play, the grace, the dunks, you know, 1044 00:49:54,600 --> 00:49:59,400 Speaker 3: all that stuff. And uh, you know, of course emulating 1045 00:49:59,440 --> 00:50:01,840 Speaker 3: a guy who you could you could never in a 1046 00:50:02,000 --> 00:50:05,560 Speaker 3: zillion years hope to play like was kind of idiotic 1047 00:50:05,640 --> 00:50:10,160 Speaker 3: in a lot of ways, but it was, uh, you 1048 00:50:10,200 --> 00:50:13,120 Speaker 3: know it was it was inspirational, you know, watching him 1049 00:50:13,360 --> 00:50:16,200 Speaker 3: and so uh and then you know, the irony of 1050 00:50:16,239 --> 00:50:20,040 Speaker 3: ironies was you know, I was pretty much a Celtic 1051 00:50:20,080 --> 00:50:22,399 Speaker 3: hater in those days, you know, because of my love 1052 00:50:22,440 --> 00:50:26,360 Speaker 3: of the Doctor j and the Sixers, and then I 1053 00:50:26,360 --> 00:50:31,080 Speaker 3: get drafted by Boston, you know, and then uh, you know, 1054 00:50:31,160 --> 00:50:33,080 Speaker 3: once I got there and made the team, of course 1055 00:50:33,120 --> 00:50:38,920 Speaker 3: all that changed. And you know, very interestingly, uh, the 1056 00:50:38,960 --> 00:50:43,520 Speaker 3: opportunity to play with Larry for three years in Boston, 1057 00:50:43,600 --> 00:50:46,960 Speaker 3: Larry Bird that is, and you know, became became friends 1058 00:50:46,960 --> 00:50:49,719 Speaker 3: with him, and it it was one of the reasons 1059 00:50:49,719 --> 00:50:52,040 Speaker 3: that you know, we ended up coaching together and then 1060 00:50:52,200 --> 00:50:56,359 Speaker 3: working together, you know, a little further on down the line. 1061 00:50:56,400 --> 00:50:58,400 Speaker 3: But you know, that's kind of the history of my 1062 00:51:00,080 --> 00:51:04,440 Speaker 3: of my favorite teams, et cetera. You know, as far 1063 00:51:04,440 --> 00:51:07,240 Speaker 3: as far as football goes. Right now, it's the Colts, baby, 1064 00:51:07,440 --> 00:51:11,360 Speaker 3: you know, I'm just I'm dialed in and you know 1065 00:51:11,400 --> 00:51:14,799 Speaker 3: it's damn officials the other day. Wait, you know, what 1066 00:51:13,719 --> 00:51:15,960 Speaker 3: a what a screwing that was. 1067 00:51:18,920 --> 00:51:20,680 Speaker 6: I don't think they can find you across. 1068 00:51:21,160 --> 00:51:23,680 Speaker 7: I love to follow up, but I'm worried about your pocket. 1069 00:51:23,719 --> 00:51:25,960 Speaker 7: I don't know if they can. Roger Goodell can step 1070 00:51:25,960 --> 00:51:26,520 Speaker 7: in their coach. 1071 00:51:28,000 --> 00:51:28,840 Speaker 3: He ain't gonna get me. 1072 00:51:30,560 --> 00:51:31,799 Speaker 6: I love that Adam. 1073 00:51:32,080 --> 00:51:35,320 Speaker 3: Adam could get me by that, but Goodell can't. He can't, 1074 00:51:35,480 --> 00:51:36,880 Speaker 3: he can't get he can't touch me. 1075 00:51:37,760 --> 00:51:40,239 Speaker 5: I love it so last one I have for you, Rick, 1076 00:51:40,360 --> 00:51:42,920 Speaker 5: And actually this sparked is from a debate I have 1077 00:51:43,040 --> 00:51:44,520 Speaker 5: my family during Thanksgiving. 1078 00:51:44,560 --> 00:51:46,480 Speaker 6: We always do like, Okay, whose era is better? 1079 00:51:46,640 --> 00:51:49,520 Speaker 5: You know you're era with Lebron and you know s 1080 00:51:49,600 --> 00:51:53,040 Speaker 5: g A now and Yoki versus my dad's from He 1081 00:51:53,120 --> 00:51:55,080 Speaker 5: loves the Michael Jordan and Larry Bird and all those 1082 00:51:55,120 --> 00:51:57,440 Speaker 5: guys and Doctor j Like you said, so looking at 1083 00:51:57,480 --> 00:51:59,160 Speaker 5: we were looking at the Michael Jordan game. We're scored 1084 00:51:59,200 --> 00:52:02,520 Speaker 5: sixty three. I believe you were on Boston when this happened. 1085 00:52:03,040 --> 00:52:07,239 Speaker 5: And looking at the spacing from that game, Rick, is 1086 00:52:07,400 --> 00:52:10,399 Speaker 5: jarring to me because it's so different, not taking anything 1087 00:52:10,400 --> 00:52:12,560 Speaker 5: away from the skill level that you know each era has, 1088 00:52:12,680 --> 00:52:15,520 Speaker 5: but as a coaching as a player throughout the years, 1089 00:52:15,880 --> 00:52:18,000 Speaker 5: what has it been like to evolve. 1090 00:52:17,719 --> 00:52:18,799 Speaker 6: With the spacing of the game. 1091 00:52:18,840 --> 00:52:20,520 Speaker 5: And you talked about the physicality a little bit earlier 1092 00:52:20,560 --> 00:52:24,000 Speaker 5: in this interview, but the spacing so different, and how 1093 00:52:24,000 --> 00:52:26,600 Speaker 5: has that maybe affected how you coach and the rotations 1094 00:52:26,640 --> 00:52:28,400 Speaker 5: you have and things of that nature. 1095 00:52:30,280 --> 00:52:34,879 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean the other it was maybe a week 1096 00:52:34,920 --> 00:52:37,960 Speaker 3: and a half ago. I was I was going through 1097 00:52:38,000 --> 00:52:40,239 Speaker 3: the channels an NBA TV was on and they had 1098 00:52:40,320 --> 00:52:46,040 Speaker 3: Game five of the playoff series between Philadelphia and New 1099 00:52:46,120 --> 00:52:51,200 Speaker 3: Jersey and it was it was. It was a series 1100 00:52:51,280 --> 00:52:54,160 Speaker 3: that went to a deciding fifth game in the first round. 1101 00:52:56,000 --> 00:52:59,040 Speaker 3: Every game in the first four games was won by 1102 00:52:59,120 --> 00:53:04,360 Speaker 3: the road team. So, you know, uh, Jersey won the 1103 00:53:04,360 --> 00:53:06,759 Speaker 3: first two games in Philly. Philly won the next two 1104 00:53:06,760 --> 00:53:09,520 Speaker 3: games in New Jersey. And this is New Jersey with 1105 00:53:10,560 --> 00:53:15,239 Speaker 3: you know, uh Michael Ray, Richardson, Buck Williams, Albert King, 1106 00:53:15,360 --> 00:53:19,200 Speaker 3: Otis bird Song, Darwin Cook, you know, a lot of 1107 00:53:19,400 --> 00:53:23,840 Speaker 3: a lot of good players, and Philly was you know, 1108 00:53:23,880 --> 00:53:25,680 Speaker 3: it was it was Doctor Jay and it really was. 1109 00:53:25,719 --> 00:53:30,399 Speaker 3: There pretty much championship team intact, you know, a couple 1110 00:53:30,480 --> 00:53:32,680 Speaker 3: I think a year or two after the championship. And 1111 00:53:32,719 --> 00:53:37,960 Speaker 3: so watching that game, I had the same I had, 1112 00:53:38,040 --> 00:53:41,239 Speaker 3: I had the exact same thought. I mean, everything was 1113 00:53:41,280 --> 00:53:44,399 Speaker 3: so bunched in. I don't think I saw one three 1114 00:53:44,400 --> 00:53:49,840 Speaker 3: point shot taken. In fact, Philadelphia was down, was down late, 1115 00:53:50,200 --> 00:53:54,759 Speaker 3: and they had a couple of possessions left. They didn't 1116 00:53:54,760 --> 00:53:57,319 Speaker 3: even think about shoot three, you know, So it was 1117 00:53:58,360 --> 00:54:02,040 Speaker 3: so so much has changed, and look, there was a 1118 00:54:03,040 --> 00:54:07,000 Speaker 3: there was a scoring crisis in the nineties and headed 1119 00:54:07,080 --> 00:54:11,520 Speaker 3: into the early two thousands, and then uh, Jerry Colangelo 1120 00:54:11,640 --> 00:54:14,480 Speaker 3: had a group that was put together by David Stern. 1121 00:54:15,120 --> 00:54:19,080 Speaker 3: David gave them autonomy to make some rule changes to 1122 00:54:19,200 --> 00:54:23,920 Speaker 3: make the game better, you know, to to help evolve 1123 00:54:24,000 --> 00:54:27,960 Speaker 3: the game forward. So the big change was you could 1124 00:54:27,960 --> 00:54:31,759 Speaker 3: play any defense as long as you did not get 1125 00:54:31,800 --> 00:54:35,279 Speaker 3: a defense a three second violation. And so all of 1126 00:54:35,320 --> 00:54:39,759 Speaker 3: a sudden, instead of grid lines that determined whether or not, 1127 00:54:39,920 --> 00:54:43,280 Speaker 3: you know, you were legal or not, you could now guard. 1128 00:54:43,320 --> 00:54:47,000 Speaker 3: You can now double team a guy that didn't have 1129 00:54:47,040 --> 00:54:49,800 Speaker 3: the ball, and that that didn't used to be the case. 1130 00:54:49,840 --> 00:54:54,439 Speaker 3: So the ball had to had to move. And as 1131 00:54:54,480 --> 00:54:58,680 Speaker 3: the ball had to move more with you know, the 1132 00:54:58,840 --> 00:55:02,920 Speaker 3: legality of zone d fans, et cetera, players had to 1133 00:55:02,960 --> 00:55:06,359 Speaker 3: develop a different skill set. The game started to breathe more. 1134 00:55:07,360 --> 00:55:11,000 Speaker 3: The three point shots started to be realized as as 1135 00:55:11,040 --> 00:55:13,680 Speaker 3: the potent weapon that it that it's viewed as today, 1136 00:55:14,360 --> 00:55:17,760 Speaker 3: and that was kind of the beginning of the change 1137 00:55:17,760 --> 00:55:22,640 Speaker 3: of the game. And then you know, nowadays you have analytics, 1138 00:55:23,080 --> 00:55:24,680 Speaker 3: You've got a three point line, but a lot of 1139 00:55:24,719 --> 00:55:26,839 Speaker 3: these guys are shooting from what would be a four 1140 00:55:26,920 --> 00:55:33,120 Speaker 3: point line, and you know, it's I love the way 1141 00:55:33,239 --> 00:55:36,240 Speaker 3: the game has changed. It's it's it's really the ultimate 1142 00:55:36,320 --> 00:55:41,560 Speaker 3: challenge to play. It's the ultimate challenge to defend in it. 1143 00:55:42,360 --> 00:55:47,360 Speaker 3: And you know, it's just, uh, it's just super compelling 1144 00:55:47,440 --> 00:55:50,520 Speaker 3: because as we've seen over the last two years especially, 1145 00:55:50,560 --> 00:55:52,840 Speaker 3: you know, no no lead is too large and no 1146 00:55:52,960 --> 00:55:56,680 Speaker 3: deficit is too big, you know, and the three point 1147 00:55:56,719 --> 00:55:59,520 Speaker 3: shot and the speed of the game is has has 1148 00:55:59,560 --> 00:56:03,600 Speaker 3: put a great deal of excitement into it. So yeah, 1149 00:56:03,640 --> 00:56:08,279 Speaker 3: I'm with you on that. And watch that game. Five man, 1150 00:56:08,320 --> 00:56:10,400 Speaker 3: I've never seen so many people bunched. 1151 00:56:10,160 --> 00:56:11,720 Speaker 6: Up together in the lane. 1152 00:56:12,080 --> 00:56:15,040 Speaker 3: It was the only the only game that that that 1153 00:56:15,120 --> 00:56:17,719 Speaker 3: I would compare it to that I've seen that I 1154 00:56:17,800 --> 00:56:21,280 Speaker 3: went back years later and happened to see on TV 1155 00:56:21,400 --> 00:56:25,560 Speaker 3: when we were playing Washington back in the it was 1156 00:56:25,600 --> 00:56:27,879 Speaker 3: around two thousand and eight or something. When I first 1157 00:56:27,920 --> 00:56:31,680 Speaker 3: got to Dallas, they had our Virginia Georgetown game, so 1158 00:56:31,760 --> 00:56:37,920 Speaker 3: that was Ewing versus Samson, and that game had no 1159 00:56:38,040 --> 00:56:42,640 Speaker 3: tree point line, no shot clock, and and we were 1160 00:56:42,680 --> 00:56:45,800 Speaker 3: sitting in a zone and it was it was packed 1161 00:56:45,800 --> 00:56:50,279 Speaker 3: in and possessions were super long, and you know, it 1162 00:56:50,320 --> 00:56:52,959 Speaker 3: was it was like it was like watching paint dry. 1163 00:56:53,160 --> 00:56:55,440 Speaker 3: I mean, it was really it was really, it was 1164 00:56:55,480 --> 00:56:58,719 Speaker 3: really arduous, and so I just I'm thrilled with the 1165 00:56:58,719 --> 00:57:02,200 Speaker 3: way the games evolved over the years. It had to, 1166 00:57:02,719 --> 00:57:05,040 Speaker 3: you know, in some way, shape or form. There was 1167 00:57:05,400 --> 00:57:07,880 Speaker 3: there was always talk about, hey, the floor needs to 1168 00:57:07,920 --> 00:57:10,840 Speaker 3: be bigger, you know, maybe the rim needs to get higher, 1169 00:57:11,040 --> 00:57:12,680 Speaker 3: all that kind of stuff. You know, none of that 1170 00:57:12,680 --> 00:57:18,400 Speaker 3: stuff was going to happen because NBA arenas are configured 1171 00:57:18,440 --> 00:57:21,480 Speaker 3: to be a certain size. There are certain you know, 1172 00:57:21,520 --> 00:57:23,760 Speaker 3: the high revenue seats were not going to go away, 1173 00:57:23,920 --> 00:57:27,400 Speaker 3: and so the game had to adjust and it has 1174 00:57:27,480 --> 00:57:30,200 Speaker 3: and and as we move forward, you know you're going 1175 00:57:30,240 --> 00:57:33,560 Speaker 3: to see more five men that can stretch the floor, 1176 00:57:33,960 --> 00:57:36,480 Speaker 3: put the ball on the floor and do all the 1177 00:57:36,520 --> 00:57:38,960 Speaker 3: skilled things as well, and it'll get harder and harder 1178 00:57:39,000 --> 00:57:39,360 Speaker 3: to guard. 1179 00:57:39,880 --> 00:57:42,120 Speaker 7: Always think of scoring. You guys put up what eighty 1180 00:57:42,240 --> 00:57:44,400 Speaker 7: something on Cleveland in the first half of a playoff 1181 00:57:44,400 --> 00:57:47,640 Speaker 7: game last year, and you know, twenty years ago, Pacers Pistons, 1182 00:57:47,640 --> 00:57:50,040 Speaker 7: it was the first one to like seventy five would 1183 00:57:50,120 --> 00:57:52,000 Speaker 7: win that series in the East. 1184 00:57:53,040 --> 00:57:55,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, but I'll tell you one, like my first year 1185 00:57:55,680 --> 00:57:59,240 Speaker 3: in Detroit, you know, we we developed a team that 1186 00:57:59,440 --> 00:58:02,800 Speaker 3: was a tough minded defensive team. That was our identity. 1187 00:58:02,840 --> 00:58:05,000 Speaker 3: We gave up eighty six points a game for the season, 1188 00:58:05,960 --> 00:58:09,760 Speaker 3: and you know that was that was kind of the 1189 00:58:09,760 --> 00:58:12,840 Speaker 3: beginning of this era that my first year of coaching 1190 00:58:14,000 --> 00:58:16,080 Speaker 3: was that year, and it was also the first year 1191 00:58:16,200 --> 00:58:20,560 Speaker 3: of the Colangelo rule changes, and so you know, we 1192 00:58:20,560 --> 00:58:23,200 Speaker 3: we were all adjusting. But you know, we we had 1193 00:58:23,360 --> 00:58:25,560 Speaker 3: we had defenders. I mean, we had Ben Wallace who 1194 00:58:26,040 --> 00:58:29,320 Speaker 3: really nobody really knew who Ben Wallace was at that 1195 00:58:29,400 --> 00:58:31,800 Speaker 3: point in time, but he became Defensive Player of the 1196 00:58:31,840 --> 00:58:33,960 Speaker 3: Year his second year with us and went on to 1197 00:58:34,000 --> 00:58:39,160 Speaker 3: win it like three additional times. And you know under 1198 00:58:39,200 --> 00:58:42,120 Speaker 3: these under these new rules, you could still have a 1199 00:58:42,160 --> 00:58:48,400 Speaker 3: great defensive team. And so everyone wants to have an identity, 1200 00:58:48,800 --> 00:58:52,640 Speaker 3: and so right now, you know, with us, our identity 1201 00:58:52,720 --> 00:58:56,080 Speaker 3: is we we we have we have found a formula 1202 00:58:56,360 --> 00:59:01,480 Speaker 3: to defend well. But it is it's great dependent on 1203 00:59:02,320 --> 00:59:05,240 Speaker 3: the right kind of offense and the right kind of 1204 00:59:05,280 --> 00:59:07,120 Speaker 3: execution at both ends. 1205 00:59:07,960 --> 00:59:10,000 Speaker 7: Bachers have one, two of three. Again, they got Denver 1206 00:59:10,120 --> 00:59:12,720 Speaker 7: coming up tomorrow night reminder, and I think it's a 1207 00:59:12,760 --> 00:59:14,640 Speaker 7: good reminder on a day like today. You got the 1208 00:59:14,720 --> 00:59:17,720 Speaker 7: Lloyd Pier Samuel Coatee drive coming up uh three point 1209 00:59:17,720 --> 00:59:20,480 Speaker 7: thirty five thirty today over at the Goodwill Horizon House 1210 00:59:20,520 --> 00:59:22,520 Speaker 7: right off of Washington Streets. So if you can make 1211 00:59:22,520 --> 00:59:25,680 Speaker 7: it out to that, certainly do Coach. As always, thank you, 1212 00:59:25,760 --> 00:59:26,760 Speaker 7: Sarah Well chat next week. 1213 00:59:28,280 --> 00:59:29,040 Speaker 3: Cheers to take care of